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As I pointed out in Taki’s Magazine recently, San Francisco is like the Puerto Rico of billionaire cities when it comes to abysmal public school test scores. But don’t worry, the San Francisco school board has a plan to make its students even more ignorant. From the San Francisco Examiner:

School board working to put ethnic studies at heart of district curriculum
LAURA WAXMANN Aug. 14, 2019

Efforts to educate students on concepts such as structural racism, identity and social justice could soon gain traction in San Francisco as school board members work to expand the district’s current ethnic studies offerings.

A resolution introduced in June by school board members Alison Collins and Jenny Lam seeks to implement an ethnic studies framework district wide, in all subject areas and across all grade levels.

Keep in mind that history and English were both turned into branches of ethnic studies long ago, but now the demand is for separate ethnic studies courses as well. For example, in 2010 I reviewed a 1277-page US history textbook that didn’t have any room to mention the Wright Brothers because what have airplanes ever done for America?

The resolution, called “Equity Studies to Implement Humanizing Learning Experiences for All Students,” would commit the San Francisco Unified School District to centering its curriculum around “decolonizing and anti-oppressive” pedagogy and a “humanizing” framework for teaching students based on three guiding principles: self-love and knowledge, solidarity between communities and self-determination.

“Our resolution expands and builds on the work of previous boards, made up of many resolutions regarding ethnic studies,” said Lam, who is Mayor London Breed’s education advisor and Chinese American. “It’s time for us to implement ethnic studies districtwide, and address values, cultural competence, and relevance to guide all curricular decisions.”

“What this resolution does is help bring to light for our students the whole notion of invisibility our students of color experience, and the stereotype of the model immigrant,” she said. …

Concordia said that SFUSD’s ethnic studies program is in many ways ahead of the curb.

In sports news, Dodger pitcher Clayton Kershaw throws a fine curb ball.

… She then developed a project centered around genocide, jin which her students were prompted to choose a country in which genocide occured and produce a video project examing its implications for that country’s history and people.

Indeed.

From the New York Times:

Push for Ethnic Studies in Schools Faces a Dilemma: Whose Stories to Tell

By Dana Goldstein Aug. 15, 2019

Discuss a recent instance of police brutality in your community. Read op-eds arguing for and against legal status for unauthorized immigrants. Compare and contrast border conditions in the Palestinian territories and Mexico.

Those are some of the lesson plans suggested in a draft of California’s newly proposed ethnic studies curriculum for K-12 public schools. The documents have led to bitter debate in recent weeks over whether they veer into left-wing propaganda, and whether they are inclusive enough of Jews and other ethnic groups. Now, amid a growing outcry, even progressive policymakers in the state are promising significant revisions.

The materials are unapologetically activist — and jargony. They ask students to “critique empire and its relationship to white supremacy, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism and other forms of power and oppression.” A goal, the draft states, is to “connect ourselves to past and contemporary resistance movements that struggle for social justice.”

The debate in California highlights some of the difficult questions that educators will face: Which groups, and whose histories, should be included? Is the purpose to create young, left-leaning activists, or to give students access to a broad range of opinions? And are teachers, the majority of whom are white, ready to teach a discipline that is unfamiliar to many of them? …

The California course materials focus on people of color, such as African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian-Americans, Arab-Americans, Central American immigrants and Pacific Islanders. …

But after California released the draft of the materials for public comment in June, some Jewish legislators and organizations complained that anti-Semitism was not an area of emphasis, while the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement against Israel came up repeatedly. Armenian, Greek, Hindu and Korean organizations later joined the Jewish groups in calling for revisions.

What about the Sikhs? Last time I checked, about a decade ago, they were complaining that Sikh-Americans were left out of history textbooks.

Shereen Bhalla, director of education for the Hindu American Foundation, said the curriculum should include information on the contributions Indian-Americans have made to the United States, and on the discrimination they have faced through immigration restrictions and hate crimes.

It did not help that some of the terms used throughout the more than 300 pages of documents — “hxrstory, “cisheteropatriarchy,” “accompliceship” — were inscrutable to many in Sacramento and beyond. …

Faith Palileo, 18, said that before she took ethnic studies at Balboa High School in San Francisco, she would often cut class. She considered school a chore, filled with textbook-driven lessons that were irrelevant to her life.

That changed, she said, when she enrolled in American history and ethnic studies classes taught by Nikhil Laud, one of the leaders of San Francisco’s program, which is seen as a model by many across the state.

She and her classmates made posters, featuring their own photographs, on which they wrote down and countered the racial and ethnic stereotypes they had faced.

And, no doubt, they talked about their hair.

… According to a glossary included with the documents, “hxrstory,” pronounced “herstory,” is history written from a gender-inclusive perspective. “Cisheteropatriarchy” is a system of power based on the dominance of straight men who are not transgender. “Accompliceship” is the process of building relationships grounded in trust and accountability with marginalized people and groups.

The public school student body of California is much more diverse than the teacher corps that would be tasked with adapting college-level concepts for the K-12 classroom. More than three-quarters of California students are nonwhite, but 62 percent of their teachers are white.

But the area of the draft curriculum that proved most divisive is how it treats Palestinians and Jews. Lara Kiswani, executive director of the Arab Resource and Organizing Center in San Francisco, said that for too long, Arab-American issues had received short shrift in the curriculum.

… They pointed out that Jewish studies is not usually included under the ethnic studies umbrella, and that California law already requires instruction on the Holocaust and genocide.

The more courses are mandated to graduate, such as now Ethnic Studies, the less time students have to retake mandated courses that they’ve flunked.

 
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  1. Alison Collins

    I think this woman has come up on unz.com before — ? — anyway, here is the result of searching her Twitter timeline for “white OR race” –> link

    This kind of stuff is what happens when you elect racial grievance nutcases to school boards.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    I'd say it's even worse than busy-body know-nothing nutcases running school boards. Proper education in the USA was slowly destroyed when left-leaning women with suspect credentials were put in charge running, as opposed to just teaching in, our government schools.
    , @Ed
    The white parents in SF won’t cause much of a fuss, if they’ve decided to raise their children there and put them in public school chances are they’re true believers.

    The Asian parents on the other hand could provide much resistance once it’s realized the curriculum will be inferior as a result of a focus on ethnic studies.
  2. This is the insanity we have with Trump in office. Soon, le déluge.

  3. Will Israel’s treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught? And China’s treatment of the Uyghur people? And the slaughter by African tribes of each other? And on and on? Or can we expect instead the usual liberal hypocrisy in which certain matters are avoided?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Didn't you read what it says above? Palestinians are indeed one of the subject ethnicities they want to teach. The Left is way ahead of right when it comes to anti-Semitism.

    Calling Arabs "indigenous" to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors "indigenous" to Mexico.
    , @Art Deco
    Will Israel’s treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught?

    Other than the citizen population of the Gulf Emirates (which is something of a rentier community whose actual human capital is unimpressive), the Arabs in Israel are the region's most affluent. Among Arab populations not clipping coupons from natural resource bonanzas, the most affluent is that of Tunisia, whose real income levels are 1/2 those of Israel's Arabs. Israel's Arabs have also been free of civil insurrection for 70 years (which the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, the Sudan, and Algeria have not been). And also free of the Grand Guignol as state policy (which those living in Iraq, Syria, and the Sudan have not been). And also free of the pervasive police state (which those living in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and Libya have not been). So, yeah, let's put that in the curriculum of your local school, and stuff it down your kid's throat.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Will Israel’s treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught?
     
    You mean the Samaritans? The Maronites? Or the ones who sold out to the invaders from the east?
    , @ExposeThem511
    You can believe this or not but if it’s understanding you’re seeking, I can give you the background where all this multiculturalism and hatred of the white race began. If you are willing to read the first 6 chapters of Genesis, with my explanation here, you will see that it’s been an ongoing struggle for millennia. Genesis 1 creation of man (aw-dawm or adam in Hebrew) was a first creation of white man. This creation (the 6th day creation) ended up mingling with the “beast of the field” as God called the other species of manlike bipeds which is how you got the serpent in the garden. The serpent is a proto-jew and an ancestor. Because there was a conflagration, you can see in chapter 2 after the 7th day was declared, God has to restore part of the earth, foliage, animals and He had to make a white man and woman. Today’s white man is a 7th day creation, not 6th day as are all others including Jews. Genesis 1 creation was likely more than one each as the language seems to convey. To make a long story short, the serpent immediately tried to destroy the new white creation as well. The proto-jew serpent and today’s serpents are an asiatic people descended through Cain, Esau, and even the patriarch Judah who married into this mingled people. White man is God’s chosen people not the mingled jews who usurped this title after 70AD when all the white Israelites left Judea before Roman invasion. Israelites became Christian in name and over a couple of generations forgot who they were. Getting back to Noah. Noah found favor because he hadn’t race mixed and his seed was pure. God destroyed all the white men who race mixed in Genesis 6. God created white man to rule the earth with Him but the asiatic mongol race was not happy with that idea. God’s law of kind after kind will again be honored. Jesus said in Matthew 15:13 that He was going to uproot all that His Father did not plant which means all race mixed people who are not created by God but through man’s disobedience. The other races hate white man for his favor but we are currently out of favor with God for forsaking His laws which are still in force. The word Israel means man ruling with God, ish-ra-el. God would be violating His own law by choosing a mingled people as His own. They are the descendants of the Canaanites who were already mingled with this first white/serpent mixed creation through Cain, who went to these people after getting thrown out of the garden for killing his brother. Multiculturalism is a most grievous lie in which you lose your gift of eternal life at the resurrection of the white race after the upcoming destruction of this age.
  4. Time to ban private, religious, and homeschooling. Give modern education to children, especially if the elite, good and hard!
    Also, when you try to hold members of marginalized groups accountable, isn’t that called racist or something like that?

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    Jeremy Corbyn plans to ban private schools in the UK. I think that were this to happen, it would create a huge political shift among the elite in Britain, as parents who currently live in inner suburbs of London realise that their children will have to attend schools filled with all of the blacks and Bengalis whose importation they have supported.
  5. Imagine the future as a grievance-filled Museum of the Holocausts with shifty figures trying to interrogate you from behind cancelled statues, forever.

    Or District 9 ethnic shrimps fighting over little heaps of grievance.

    “critique empire and its relationship to white supremacy, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism and other forms of power and oppression.”

    I suppose I would not get any points for writing about black supremacy and black patriarchy or communism or having a show-and-tell about Daenerys.

    The debate in California highlights some of the difficult questions that educators will face: Which groups, and whose histories, should be included? Is the purpose to create young, left-leaning activists, or to give students access to a broad range of opinions? And are teachers, the majority of whom are white, ready to teach a discipline that is unfamiliar to many of them?

    These are serious questions, certainly pondered by Pol Pot.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL!, though I'm pretty sure I know the way Pol Pot leaned on this question.

    When the Commies come around for the anti-revolutionaries next time, we'll all be wearing contacts. Good luck with that one, Commie bitches!

  6. For this to make sense, you have to remember that the city’s goal is to have a population that (a) cannot move outside the city and (b) justifies payments to the city for keeping its population from rioting, suffering, or in any way threatening the national political establishment. Given this, a crippling education that makes the student’s afraid of the countryside and believing that riot is an effective way of hurting those who are hurting them accomplishes both (a) and (b).

    The French had a similar system prior to the French Revolution. Bureaucrats were told to pacify the peasants by seeing to their welfare. The response was a competition to show who had the peasants most in need of pacifying. To show that, the bureaucrats would tell the peasants in their district that the state was wronging them (by, say, not building a road to increase trade in food items), attempt to make the peasants angry, and then pass out forms on which the peasants were encouraged to write their feelings on the injustice. The forms were submitted to the top, and whoever had the angriest peasants won. [1]

    Same game the cities are playing today. They are playing a very similar game with the “homeless” CATO4321 people. It’s how they get funded.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Alexis de Toqueville.
    _The Old Regime and the Revolution_.
    1856

    • Replies: @Alden
    They were called Notebooks of Grievances. It was competition for national tax money.
  7. Anon[397] • Disclaimer says:

    A passive-aggressive response to this by opposing legislators could be to amend the proposed law to require the issuance, in lieu of a diploma, to any student who completed all courses except ethnic studies, of a “Certificate of Non Graduation Due Solely to Lack of Ethnic Studies Credits.” Kids with these might find that employers and some colleges preferentially seek them out.

  8. @Redneck farmer
    Time to ban private, religious, and homeschooling. Give modern education to children, especially if the elite, good and hard!
    Also, when you try to hold members of marginalized groups accountable, isn't that called racist or something like that?

    Jeremy Corbyn plans to ban private schools in the UK. I think that were this to happen, it would create a huge political shift among the elite in Britain, as parents who currently live in inner suburbs of London realise that their children will have to attend schools filled with all of the blacks and Bengalis whose importation they have supported.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "it would create a huge political shift among the elite in Britain, as parents who currently live in inner suburbs of London realise that their children will have to attend schools filled with all of the blacks and Bengalis whose importation they have supported"

    Alternatively it'll lead to greater segregation by house price.

    Don't think it'll happen anyway. Too many elites with too much to lose.
  9. I’m curious if or when WASP Anglo-American history will be refitted into the noble victim brutalized by the evil oppressor superstructure. Like Ilhan Omar, the Puritans fled a country in chaos and civil war. (They also helped the country’s previous dictator the “Lord Protector Cromwell.”) I vaguely remember AP US History slightly playing that angle while the Southern Cavaliers received less finer treatment (muh slaves, muh cotton.)

    Is it possible to really amp it up? A poor huddled community surrounded by hostile European imperialists. (Probably best to leave the Indians out, that’s a Pokémon Battle for another night.)

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    "(muh slaves, muh cotton.)"

    With an attitude like that you'll never be invited to contribute to the NYT's 1619 Project.
    , @syonredux
    Nope. All YTs everywhere are guilty. If you try to argue that your ancestors didn't engage in a specific bit of anti-POC conduct, that merely indicates that you are in dire need of "re-education":

    https://cdn.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/li-zhensheng-featured.jpg


    http://scalar.usc.edu/anvc/travel-and-culture-in-hong-kong-and-macau/media/cultural%20rev%203.jpg


    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AaqGCeJ2kEg/WVyhGFieqQI/AAAAAAAACc8/sCxV6BykiSoDWAW4oKLDipMg7IrNZMLxwCLcBGAs/s1600/cultrev2.jpg
  10. said Lam, who is Mayor London Breed’s education advisor and Chinese American.

    That’s it, nothing in the written word will ever be funnier than that excerpt.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Lam definitely is Breed's Chinese-American. Lam's activities include a leading role in Chinese for Affirmative Action.
    , @bomag
    ..and she's the school board member pushing this stuff.
    , @El Dato
    Have some President Beluga:

    https://i.imgur.com/8RaXl9G.png
  11. But the area of the draft curriculum that proved most divisive is how it treats Palestinians and Jews. Lara Kiswani, executive director of the Arab Resource and Organizing Center in San Francisco, said that for too long, Arab-American issues had received short shrift in the curriculum.

    And on that day all Jews became Ben Shapiro or Eric Weinstein. The danger of self-reflection was averted. Anti-racism with Jewish characteristics.

  12. Whath about the Siths? Didn’t they get enough coverage in Star Wars?

    Oh! The Sikhs. Yeah, they’re nice people we don’t hear much about. Never mind.

  13. @Altai

    said Lam, who is Mayor London Breed’s education advisor and Chinese American.
     
    That's it, nothing in the written word will ever be funnier than that excerpt.

    Lam definitely is Breed’s Chinese-American. Lam’s activities include a leading role in Chinese for Affirmative Action.

  14. She and her classmates made posters, featuring their own photographs, on which they wrote down and countered the racial and ethnic stereotypes they had faced.

    And, no doubt, they talked about their hair.

    Could hardly breathe after reading this (because laughter). These are the days of the (recurring) miracles and wonder – this is the long-distance – – – wailing, woe, affliction, distress and misery all at once.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Racial stereotypes: Like that they're stupid and uneducated...
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    If not anyone else, Dieter, I got your Paul Simon song reference. Very Good! It's not my favorite of his stuff, but still good ...
  15. At this point it should be obvious this is all done to make sure there isn’t a middle class.

    The college degree needed to obtain a professional career being used as debt slavery to hold down the future professionals in the upper working class at best. Ensuring that people who can’t afford private schools receive a truly craptastic secondary education for their children, while making sure the kids are too busy learning nonsense to educate themselves.

    The ruling class uses international and loss credit tax dodges to avoid paying any tax, while forcing the white workers to pay insane taxes to transfer wealth to blacks and illegals–there are literally 4 generations of blacks in Detroit who have never worked. Their hobby is committing crimes, but everything is free. Housing, medical, cash benefits, winter clothing credit, food…

    • Replies: @Hopscotch
    It always cracks me up when people say Biden is the one Democratic candidate who is on the side of the middle class. He has been one of the biggest pushers of the consumer debt and student debt traps.
    , @Dieter Kief

    Their hobby is committing crimes
     
    That's evolution. Wasn't it Henry Harpending's observation that African Blacks have no hobbies?

    Sigh (they need help, of course, don't they? - Tom Wolfe's "Back to Blood" comes to my mind, the scene, where the liberal professor's daughter actually tries to help in such circumstances in Miami; and the disastrous result of it...). This stuff ain't easy.
  16. @Kent Nationalist
    Jeremy Corbyn plans to ban private schools in the UK. I think that were this to happen, it would create a huge political shift among the elite in Britain, as parents who currently live in inner suburbs of London realise that their children will have to attend schools filled with all of the blacks and Bengalis whose importation they have supported.

    “it would create a huge political shift among the elite in Britain, as parents who currently live in inner suburbs of London realise that their children will have to attend schools filled with all of the blacks and Bengalis whose importation they have supported”

    Alternatively it’ll lead to greater segregation by house price.

    Don’t think it’ll happen anyway. Too many elites with too much to lose.

  17. This dragon will soon eat its own tail–when students learn that their teachers are tools of the oppressive racist ruling class–and that Utopia is only possible when such barriers to equity is removed–and each student must take responsibility for making it happen with activism–here and now!

    Stand back and grab the popcorn!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The Cultural Revolution comes to America! People think of Asians as being sorta quiet (this is ribrary!) but you haven't seen riled up until you've seen Asian riled up. Unlike blacks, they are pretty good shots (black guy in Philly this week "shot" six cops using over 100 rounds, killed zero - in fact they were all out of the hospital the same day. Did he have his AR loaded with blanks? No wonder we lost Vietnam with guys like this as draftees. After his arrest the community had a rally to SUPPORT the shooter). But the truth is that the SF students are more Mexican and Central American than Chinese so they won't be parading their ethnic studies teachers in dunce caps. Would be fun to see the Revolution eat its own, but not gonna happen.
  18. OT:

    The United States has cut Pakistan’s foreign aid by $440 million, according to reports, sending mixed signals as Donald Trump seeks mediation between New Delhi and Islamabad over the crisis in Kashmir.

    The aid reduction means that Pakistan will receive $4.1 billion, slightly over half of the total amount promised by Washington nine years ago, the Tribune Express reported.

    The aid package, originally set at $7.5 billion under the Kerry Lugar Berman Act, was implemented in 2010, but a breakdown in US-Pakistan relations has delayed the distribution of funds.

    White Supremacy intensifies.

  19. Hey California!!……cut all the math and science ,then you’ll have time for all the ethnic worship

  20. Is the purpose to create young, left-leaning activists, or to give students access to a broad range of opinions?

    That’s a question that surely answers itself.

    Unless, of course, the curriculum includes an analysis of the measured IQ differences between ethnic groups and a balanced discussion of how this might effect their relative representation within the so-called “power structure.”

  21. Given the massive gaps in test scores between the racial groups, the fact that CA now wants to focus time in the classroom on what are essentially religious myths rather than math and reading is the clearest example that progressives view the education system as a political indoctrination system rather than a means to prepare students for the workforce.

    Next up is UBI to make sure the uneducated masses have guaranteed income so they don’t starve in between opportunities to vote.

    • Agree: pyrrhus, Prodigal son
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    You're gonna vote for my Heroin Legalization Initiative to keep the UBIers from causing too much damage, right?
    , @gregor
    I don't object to indoctrination per se, but I say youth should be inculcated with useful and productive moral and civic principles, not this garbage. Traditionally, the moral part of education has been viewed as more important than purely intellectual subjects, and it's a far more realistic goal for mass education. In particular, the left half of the bell curve benefits more from moral instruction than they do from academic instruction.
  22. As I recall, the Russians were sticking Marxism into everything eventually. Someone else may be able to come up with some amusing anecdotes.

    I met a Chinese lady who told me they had Marxism classes in medical school. Apparently it was all about being a good person or something.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    So we heard you like Marxist-Leninist jargon and Cybernetics?

    Cybernetics and the Dialectic Materialism of Marx and Lenin


    One cannot completely understand Marx' Kapital and especially the first chapter unless one has studied and digested the whole logic of Hegel.

    Vladimir Ilyich (Ulyanov) Lenin
     

    This means you are supposed to be on crack.

    This essay is an enlarged representation of a lecture the author did deliver at the University of Cologne (Köln, Germany) July 17, 1964.

    Several passages of little interest to the American reader have been deleted.

    The paper was prepared under the Sponsorship of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, Directorate of Information Sciences, Grant AF – AFOSR – 8 – 63 and 480-64
     

    Let's hear it from the blue hair, I mean the tweet-jacketed leather-elbow gentleman:

    Such an approach has become necessary since the advent of cybernetics in the Soviet Union. Although the recognition of cybernetics in Russia has been rather recent, Marxist theorists have nevertheless found it necessary to confront the new science with their ideology. It was felt from the very beginning among soviet philosophers that cybernetic theory was considerable more than one new technical discipline among others developing a partial scientific aspect beside other coordinated view-points. Its universal interdisciplinary character which stemmed from new, trans-classic epistemological and ontological assumption was quickly recognized in the Soviet Union. This raised at once the question whether cybernetics (and its implied philosophic assumptions) were compatible with Marxism-Leninism and its conceptual basis of dialectic materialism. At first the answer was wholly negative. An anonymous author wrote 1953 – five years after publication of Norbert Wiener's "Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and in the Machine" (New York 1948) – in Voprosy Filosofii that "Cybernetics serves the reactionaries of bourgeois society and idealistic philosophy." But the tenor of the comments on cybernetics changed rapidly – and not only in the Soviet Union. This change is heralded by the six "Dialogues on Cybernetics" which were published in Warsaw in 1954 by Bognslavski, Grenievsky and Szapiro [14]. The dialogues admit that the theory of programming of computers, of transmission of information and prosthetic technique are compatible with Marxist concepts.
     
    Phew! Escaped a late-20th century fatwa there.
  23. “Concordia said that SFUSD’s ethnic studies program is in many ways ahead of the curb. ”

    Heh.

    Laura Waxxman:

  24. “The more courses are mandated to graduate, such as now Ethnic Studies, the less time students have to retake mandated courses that they’ve flunked.”

    As if that would do any good with the kind of students attending SF public schools….

  25. In sports news, Dodger pitcher Clayton Kershaw throws a fine curb ball.

    Curbohydrate over-consumption is partly responsible for the American walruses waddling around Wal-Mart.

    Steve Sailer says he has gone from weighing about 220 pounds to about 180 pounds. There is no doubt that Sailer accomplished this weight loss by reducing his overall caloric consumption and by avoiding over-consuming curbohydrates.

    Curbohydrates are very important as a source for fuel if you are planning on doing grueling exercises of extreme exertion and endurance for hours on end.

    I at one time was able to bicycle 60 or more miles to the Atlantic Ocean and 60 or so miles back on the return trip. I would also zip through about 15 or so miles on the coastal road along the ocean. The night before the bicycle trip, I would eat a pound of pasta with sauce and a can of chili and a can of corned beef hash mixed in. If I ate that without doing way over a hundred miles on the bicycle I would’ve ballooned out due to all the excess curbohydrates in my system.

    Curbohydrates have gotten a bad rap because people aren’t properly calibrating their curbohydrate consumption to the amount of exercise they’ll be doing.

    Curbohydrates and protein and fat in the right measure is the way to go.

  26. Recently in a train station in New York, I saw a set of old-timey WPA-style mosaic murals, the sort of thing depicting Heroic Workingmen Busy At Industry, which showed the NYC subway system being built by Mexicans, and designed by black architects.

    The future is coming faster than you think.

    But there were no Herspanics (or is it Hrxspanics?) in the mural, and no trans workers working in mass trans-it, so I guess they’ll be replaced in a year or two.

  27. @Arclight
    Given the massive gaps in test scores between the racial groups, the fact that CA now wants to focus time in the classroom on what are essentially religious myths rather than math and reading is the clearest example that progressives view the education system as a political indoctrination system rather than a means to prepare students for the workforce.

    Next up is UBI to make sure the uneducated masses have guaranteed income so they don’t starve in between opportunities to vote.

    You’re gonna vote for my Heroin Legalization Initiative to keep the UBIers from causing too much damage, right?

  28. @SFG
    As I recall, the Russians were sticking Marxism into everything eventually. Someone else may be able to come up with some amusing anecdotes.

    I met a Chinese lady who told me they had Marxism classes in medical school. Apparently it was all about being a good person or something.

    So we heard you like Marxist-Leninist jargon and Cybernetics?

    Cybernetics and the Dialectic Materialism of Marx and Lenin

    One cannot completely understand Marx’ Kapital and especially the first chapter unless one has studied and digested the whole logic of Hegel.

    Vladimir Ilyich (Ulyanov) Lenin

    This means you are supposed to be on crack.

    This essay is an enlarged representation of a lecture the author did deliver at the University of Cologne (Köln, Germany) July 17, 1964.

    Several passages of little interest to the American reader have been deleted.

    The paper was prepared under the Sponsorship of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, Directorate of Information Sciences, Grant AF – AFOSR – 8 – 63 and 480-64

    Let’s hear it from the blue hair, I mean the tweet-jacketed leather-elbow gentleman:

    Such an approach has become necessary since the advent of cybernetics in the Soviet Union. Although the recognition of cybernetics in Russia has been rather recent, Marxist theorists have nevertheless found it necessary to confront the new science with their ideology. It was felt from the very beginning among soviet philosophers that cybernetic theory was considerable more than one new technical discipline among others developing a partial scientific aspect beside other coordinated view-points. Its universal interdisciplinary character which stemmed from new, trans-classic epistemological and ontological assumption was quickly recognized in the Soviet Union. This raised at once the question whether cybernetics (and its implied philosophic assumptions) were compatible with Marxism-Leninism and its conceptual basis of dialectic materialism. At first the answer was wholly negative. An anonymous author wrote 1953 – five years after publication of Norbert Wiener’s “Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and in the Machine” (New York 1948) – in Voprosy Filosofii that “Cybernetics serves the reactionaries of bourgeois society and idealistic philosophy.” But the tenor of the comments on cybernetics changed rapidly – and not only in the Soviet Union. This change is heralded by the six “Dialogues on Cybernetics” which were published in Warsaw in 1954 by Bognslavski, Grenievsky and Szapiro [14]. The dialogues admit that the theory of programming of computers, of transmission of information and prosthetic technique are compatible with Marxist concepts.

    Phew! Escaped a late-20th century fatwa there.

    • Replies: @sayless
    Laughed out loud, El Dato.
    , @Jack D
    There was actually a school of Marxist thought that computers would be a substitute for markets. There was no really good price setting mechanism in any Communist society. This led to a lot of misallocation of resources. Market prices actually carry a lot of information in them about supply and demand. If the market price of eggs keeps falling, this means that you have too many chickens and should cut back your flocks. Conversely, if the market price goes up, it's time to build more hen houses. The Soviet economy lacked any mechanism liked that so there were always either shortages (most of the time) or (once in a while) surpluses of unwanted stuff that would pile up and spoil. There was a lot of hope that all Soviet enterprises could be connected to each other by computer and this would usher in a new era where the efficiency of the Soviet economy not only met but exceeded that of capitalism. The computers would not only REFLECT but actually ANTICIPATE future supply and demand directly and without having to deal with filthy money, which was going to be abolished in the long term anyway.

    At the end of the Allende regime in Chile they were trying to set up such a network between all the factories that they had seized and they had a futuristic control room that looked sort of like the bridge of the Starship Enterprise meets Italian Modern. But then there was the CIA coup and we never got to find out whether Cybernetic Socialism really is better than Capitalism. We were THAT close.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

  29. @eah
    Alison Collins

    I think this woman has come up on unz.com before -- ? -- anyway, here is the result of searching her Twitter timeline for "white OR race" --> link

    This kind of stuff is what happens when you elect racial grievance nutcases to school boards.

    I’d say it’s even worse than busy-body know-nothing nutcases running school boards. Proper education in the USA was slowly destroyed when left-leaning women with suspect credentials were put in charge running, as opposed to just teaching in, our government schools.

  30. @Altai

    said Lam, who is Mayor London Breed’s education advisor and Chinese American.
     
    That's it, nothing in the written word will ever be funnier than that excerpt.

    ..and she’s the school board member pushing this stuff.

  31. Richard Mitchell’s “The Graves of Academe” gives the best critique of this nonsense that I’ve ever seen. It’s positively Sailerian, and written in the early 80s. Sadly, times have not changed, and we are on the arc to oblivion that he described.

  32. “critique empire and its relationship to white supremacy, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism and other forms of power and oppression.”

    So it’s come to this. We all knew there was something evil about the left. In the back of our minds we all knew there was something fundamentally objectionable. Antisocial and downright psychotic. We just haven’t been able to put our finger on it. Now it begins. They’ve shown their true colors, and it isn’t pretty. Misanthropy; lacking in basic human decency. What they are is a collection of short sighted self centered individuals. Self centered to the point that anything good for society and humanity is insulting to them personally. Tearing down others is more important than building themselves up. We should never allow them space to destroy.

  33. “self-love and knowledge, solidarity between communities and self-determination”.
    Wait, they’re going to be promoting white nationalism?! That’s exactly the program the alt-right is promoting for White communities.

  34. I recall reviewing the transcript of a man who got a doctorate in Physics from a Soviet university. Two courses taken in the first year: History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and Theory of Scientific Atheism.

    Basically, in order to graduate in a field like physics, you had to show the commissars running education that you were with the program. Run afoul of either of those two courses, and no college degree for you.

  35. It’s all just getting depressing. I’m going to go water the garden.

  36. Does studying stuff more change reading/maths ability by very much anyway?

  37. I have been perusing the boomer conservative web lately, and it’s amazing how resistant boomers are to having any kind of white identity. They react to articles like this with whining about “why can’t we go back to just being colorblind? All the minorities I know are hard working conservatives. Democrats are the real racists.”

    Is there any hope for boomers?

  38. @Paul
    Will Israel's treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught? And China's treatment of the Uyghur people? And the slaughter by African tribes of each other? And on and on? Or can we expect instead the usual liberal hypocrisy in which certain matters are avoided?

    Didn’t you read what it says above? Palestinians are indeed one of the subject ethnicities they want to teach. The Left is way ahead of right when it comes to anti-Semitism.

    Calling Arabs “indigenous” to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors “indigenous” to Mexico.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Alden
    There’s a big difference between the 600AD Arabs and non Jewish descendants of 5,000 AD indigenous Canaanites Philistines who are all treated like subhumans by Israel.

    Then there’s the Israeli, not immigrant Mizrahi who claim they’re treated as badly as the Christians and Muslims.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...

    "Calling Arabs “indigenous” to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors “indigenous” to Mexico."

     

    Legitimizing Ashkenaz invaders of Palestine and their displacement and mass murder of Palestine's previous inhabitants is like legitimizing Hitler's attempted Drang nach Osten fur Deutsches Lebensraum.
  39. @Dieter Kief

    She and her classmates made posters, featuring their own photographs, on which they wrote down and countered the racial and ethnic stereotypes they had faced.

     


    And, no doubt, they talked about their hair.
     
    Could hardly breathe after reading this (because laughter). These are the days of the (recurring) miracles and wonder - this is the long-distance - - - wailing, woe, affliction, distress and misery all at once.

    Racial stereotypes: Like that they’re stupid and uneducated…

  40. Who goes to public schools in San Francisco? Nobody but project and section 8 retards. There are actually more private high schools in San Francisco than public high schools.

    Who cares about blacks and public schools ? There’s a French term “ internal exiles.” It means that a group hated and reviled by government media academia should just step away and create their own quiet world.

    • Replies: @Marty
    It’s true there are more private high schools than public ones here, but most of the public kids are still Chinese, meaning they’re likely not from welfare families. I’ve had two run-ins with SF public school Asians. In the first, I passed four 17 year-olds on the sidewalk two blocks from Lowell High, the academic school. I don’t recall whether I annoyed them first with some sort of old man plaint, but anyway they told me that I was responsible for wiping out the native Americans. The second time, I was on a bus filled with Lincoln High kids, and four Chinese boys were bragging to each other about who got the worst grades, which I guess means they were aping their black classmates. Anyway, I’m pretty sure standards were destroyed long ago.
    , @International Jew
    There are some high-performing public schools (most prominently, Lowell High School), thanks to the presence of a large Chinese population. Worth noting also that blacks are disappearing from SF (though not quite as thoroughly as reproducing whites are disappearing).
  41. @Paul
    Will Israel's treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught? And China's treatment of the Uyghur people? And the slaughter by African tribes of each other? And on and on? Or can we expect instead the usual liberal hypocrisy in which certain matters are avoided?

    Will Israel’s treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught?

    Other than the citizen population of the Gulf Emirates (which is something of a rentier community whose actual human capital is unimpressive), the Arabs in Israel are the region’s most affluent. Among Arab populations not clipping coupons from natural resource bonanzas, the most affluent is that of Tunisia, whose real income levels are 1/2 those of Israel’s Arabs. Israel’s Arabs have also been free of civil insurrection for 70 years (which the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, the Sudan, and Algeria have not been). And also free of the Grand Guignol as state policy (which those living in Iraq, Syria, and the Sudan have not been). And also free of the pervasive police state (which those living in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and Libya have not been). So, yeah, let’s put that in the curriculum of your local school, and stuff it down your kid’s throat.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
  42. Issues that won’t be taught
    1. Holdomoor in Ukraine and other victims of Russian Collectivization
    2. Anything about the Gulag
    3. The Russian ethnic cleansings during WWII
    4. The Chinese murder of 2 or 3 million “landlords” after the revolution
    5. The death of about 50 million Chinese in the “Great Leap Forward”
    6. The 4 million or so who died during the cultural revolution
    7. The 2 million slaughtered in Cambodia
    8. The 1.5 million slaughtered/starved to death in Ethiopia by the Dergue.
    etc.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    9. The Arab slave trade. 10. The havoc the Mongols created in Eastern Europe. 11. The many attempts of the Turks to conquer all of Europe and the colonialisation of Southern Europe by the Ottoman Empire. 12. The colonialisation of surrounding territory done by the Aztecs. 13. The extent of human sacrifice done by Aztecs etc. 14. The treatment of women, ethnic and religious minorities and LGBT people in most non western countries. 15. Mass abortion of female fetuses in India and China
  43. @Counterinsurgency
    For this to make sense, you have to remember that the city's goal is to have a population that (a) cannot move outside the city and (b) justifies payments to the city for keeping its population from rioting, suffering, or in any way threatening the national political establishment. Given this, a crippling education that makes the student's afraid of the countryside and believing that riot is an effective way of hurting those who are hurting them accomplishes both (a) and (b).

    The French had a similar system prior to the French Revolution. Bureaucrats were told to pacify the peasants by seeing to their welfare. The response was a competition to show who had the peasants most in need of pacifying. To show that, the bureaucrats would tell the peasants in their district that the state was wronging them (by, say, not building a road to increase trade in food items), attempt to make the peasants angry, and then pass out forms on which the peasants were encouraged to write their feelings on the injustice. The forms were submitted to the top, and whoever had the angriest peasants won. [1]

    Same game the cities are playing today. They are playing a very similar game with the "homeless" CATO4321 people. It's how they get funded.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Alexis de Toqueville.
    _The Old Regime and the Revolution_.
    1856

    They were called Notebooks of Grievances. It was competition for national tax money.

  44. @Jack D
    Didn't you read what it says above? Palestinians are indeed one of the subject ethnicities they want to teach. The Left is way ahead of right when it comes to anti-Semitism.

    Calling Arabs "indigenous" to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors "indigenous" to Mexico.

    There’s a big difference between the 600AD Arabs and non Jewish descendants of 5,000 AD indigenous Canaanites Philistines who are all treated like subhumans by Israel.

    Then there’s the Israeli, not immigrant Mizrahi who claim they’re treated as badly as the Christians and Muslims.

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
    "Then there’s the Israeli, not immigrant Mizrahi who claim they’re treated as badly as the Christians and Muslims."

    lol no they don't and you couldn't pick a lot of them out of a lineup.
  45. Nikhil Laud’s “Reputation Score” is 2.60. Not sure what the scale is but I’m pretty sure that is at best mediocre.

    https://www.mylife.com/nikhil-laud/e1129305180690

  46. Back in the bad old days, pedagogy had a somewhat different focus.For example, James A Michener (1907 – 1997) has a passage in one of his books (Iberia) where he talks about how his grade school teacher (a woman) made all the children choose a hero to do a presentation on. And she emphasized that this task was particularly important for the boys, that they needed to pick an exemplar of manly character, etc. Michener chose Sir John Moore. For his presentation, he memorized and recited “The Burial of Sir John Moore after Corunna”:

    “a drum was heard, not a funeral note,
    As his corse to the rampart we hurried;
    Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot
    O’er the grave where our hero we buried.

    We buried him darkly at dead of night,
    The sods with our bayonets turning;
    By the struggling moonbeam’s misty light
    And the lantern dimly burning.

    No useless coffin enclosed his breast,
    Nor in sheet nor in shroud we wound him,
    But he lay like a warrior taking his rest
    With his martial cloak around him.

    Few and short were the prayers we said,
    And we spoke not a word of sorrow;
    But we steadfastly gazed on the face that was dead,
    And we bitterly thought of the morrow.

    We thought, as we hollowed his narrow bed
    And smoothed down his lonely pillow,
    That the foe and the stranger would tread o’er his head,
    And we far away on the billow!
    Lightly they’ll talk of the spirit that’s gone
    And o’er his cold ashes upbraid him,
    But little he’ll reck, if they let him sleep on
    In the grave where a Briton has laid him.

    But half of our heavy task was done
    When the clock struck the hour for retiring;
    And we heard the distant and random gun
    That the foe was sullenly firing.

    Slowly and sadly we laid him down,
    From the field of his fame fresh and gory;
    We carved not a line, and we raised not a stone,
    But left him alone with his glory.”

  47. cisheteropatriarchy

    Abbr.: cish, pron. “sheesh”

  48. In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school.

    Their community decided on ethno-centric indoctrination long ago.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school...'

    If this is so, it's a recent development. Do you have any data to support your assertion?
  49. “Concordia said that SFUSD’s ethnic studies program is in many ways ahead of the curb.”

    Don’t worry Steve, once this program fails SFUSD will kick it to the curve.

    To quote Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction, “English, do you speak it [email protected]#$er?!?”

    • Replies: @Alden
    There’s a Jewish men’s club in San Francisco called Concordia. It’s the Jewish equivalent of Olympic and Bohemian clubs.
  50. @Arclight
    Given the massive gaps in test scores between the racial groups, the fact that CA now wants to focus time in the classroom on what are essentially religious myths rather than math and reading is the clearest example that progressives view the education system as a political indoctrination system rather than a means to prepare students for the workforce.

    Next up is UBI to make sure the uneducated masses have guaranteed income so they don’t starve in between opportunities to vote.

    I don’t object to indoctrination per se, but I say youth should be inculcated with useful and productive moral and civic principles, not this garbage. Traditionally, the moral part of education has been viewed as more important than purely intellectual subjects, and it’s a far more realistic goal for mass education. In particular, the left half of the bell curve benefits more from moral instruction than they do from academic instruction.

    • Agree: 68W58
  51. “And, no doubt, they talked about their hair.”

    The positive development for San Francisco that came with all that dirty Silicon Valley cash (besides the increased bummage and all that wonderful poo) is the reduction of the black population. Even Bayview-Hunter’s Point is gentrifying. Alas, white middle class saps like me could not withstand the digital deluge either. So I joined the black migration to Sacramento. But I left my heart in the City by the Bay, and I will return. Probably as a bum.

  52. @Kronos
    I’m curious if or when WASP Anglo-American history will be refitted into the noble victim brutalized by the evil oppressor superstructure. Like Ilhan Omar, the Puritans fled a country in chaos and civil war. (They also helped the country’s previous dictator the “Lord Protector Cromwell.”) I vaguely remember AP US History slightly playing that angle while the Southern Cavaliers received less finer treatment (muh slaves, muh cotton.)

    Is it possible to really amp it up? A poor huddled community surrounded by hostile European imperialists. (Probably best to leave the Indians out, that’s a Pokémon Battle for another night.)

    “(muh slaves, muh cotton.)”

    With an attitude like that you’ll never be invited to contribute to the NYT’s 1619 Project.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    That’s a dubious honor at best. But honestly, the NYT is not going to survive much longer. It’s experienced such a cognitive decline from baby boomer mismanagement that it’s no longer considered a serious paper. It’s just full of Clinton Democrats and their messed up nepotistic children. Within ten to fifteen years it’s going to be shuttered. (Or re-emerge from one hell of a purging by Bernie Sanders/Hubert Humphrey Democrats.)

    I can imagine Bernie (or more likely his successor) “dispatching” the NYT with quite a bit of grief and melancholy.

    https://youtu.be/5Ddap2Pyhtw
  53. @Kronos
    I’m curious if or when WASP Anglo-American history will be refitted into the noble victim brutalized by the evil oppressor superstructure. Like Ilhan Omar, the Puritans fled a country in chaos and civil war. (They also helped the country’s previous dictator the “Lord Protector Cromwell.”) I vaguely remember AP US History slightly playing that angle while the Southern Cavaliers received less finer treatment (muh slaves, muh cotton.)

    Is it possible to really amp it up? A poor huddled community surrounded by hostile European imperialists. (Probably best to leave the Indians out, that’s a Pokémon Battle for another night.)

    Nope. All YTs everywhere are guilty. If you try to argue that your ancestors didn’t engage in a specific bit of anti-POC conduct, that merely indicates that you are in dire need of “re-education”:

  54. waxmann, goldstein. it’s all such a mystery what happened to america.

    gee, i wonder what causes cancer, said the oncologist. all cells are the same. there hasn’t been enough time in a human’s life for cells to differentiate into different kinds of cells. that’s an epidemiological canard. an immunological trope. i guess we’ll never know what causes healthy, functioning lifeforms to slowly become dead over time from this mysterious cancer thing. it definitely couldn’t be because there’s any difference between the cells, though, or from these scientifically debunked ideas about ‘cancer cells’ being introduced into the healthy cells. in fact, we should make it illegal to even discuss such disproven stereotypes.

  55. There are some inherent self-contradictions in this theory of multicultural education. It assumes 1) that people only relate to their own group and everyone needs content specifically tailored to them, 2) that we should bring in as many new groups possible and immediately pretend like they have a substantive place in American history. Where does this all lead? Obviously each group will only start out with a modest slice of the attention pie, divided among Blacks, Latinos, Indians, plus other stuff like feminism and gay interests (along some residual true history). But we’ve already assumed that people only relate to their own group, so by assumption students will only care about the small fraction of content specifically about them. (And that’s probably true as we know a typical Black guy isn’t going to what to read about the Stonewall riots or feminist theory). As the number of groups increases, each group’s pandering share must drop (converging toward zero in the limit) to accommodate the pretended contributions of the people who just showed up. At that point, we can expect to hear calls for segregation so that each group can have 100% relevant content. The colorblind everyone-can-be-an-American! alternative is at least more internally consistent.

  56. A

    head of the curb

    Stunning success right out of the blocks! If someone writes “we can’t loose perspective”, we can just shut the schools down for good.

  57. This is another wave in the 100-year erosion of the education system’s ability to impart Western thought. The only two instances where there has been collective conservative outrage about primary education involved prayer in schools and the Pledge of Allegiance. But they didn’t bat an eye about the several-decades-long cultural neutering of education, which involved removing Classics, Civics and Western Civ from the curriculum. It never dawned on them that maybe, just maybe, these courses were useful for imparting Western culture.

    Fast forward to today, conservatives will freak out about Big Tech, MSM, higher education and government overreach. But the biggest form of indoctrination still occurs in primary and secondary schools. It also has a knock-on effect of causing self-censorship in the home, where parents may not agree with the curriculum, but are reluctant to criticize it outright, since their child is the one who will be penalized.

    The conservative response of “send them to private schools because free market” is a non-response. In addition to showing they don’t give a shit about the middle class (who are still stuck paying taxes to warehouse society’s kids), it is also a fairly predictable conservative milquetoast, worthy of Reagan Republicans, and the Eisenhower Republicans before them. Say whatever you will about the left, but at least they fight for culture, if only in the sense they wish to destroy it.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    The conservative response of “send them to private schools because free market” is a non-response.
     
    Hops: Will you go to bed with me?
    Fergie: No! You ugly.
    Hops: That’s a non-response.
  58. Push for Ethnic Studies in Schools Faces a Dilemma: Whose Stories to Tell

    By Dana Goldstein Aug. 15, 2019

    The California course materials focus on people of color, such as African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian-Americans, Arab-Americans, Central American immigrants and Pacific Islanders. …

    But after California released the draft of the materials for public comment in June, some Jewish legislators and organizations complained that anti-Semitism was not an area of emphasis, while the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement against Israel came up repeatedly.

    No matter whose stories are told, there is one group of whos whose stories will definitely be told, no matter what any number of whoms think.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Hearing an adaptation of an existentialist huis-clos playing in a lightless Vergasungskeller every single year until you graduate must be tiresome.
  59. The documents have led to bitter debate in recent weeks over whether they veer into left-wing propaganda, and whether they are inclusive enough of Jews and other ethnic groups.

    Slavery, Jim Crow, “restricted” golf clubs, Harvard quotas, the Chinese exclusion act, red-lining, immigration quotas, Emmett Till … Kristalnacht, the Holocaust … apartheid … disporportionate school discipline, requests to touch hair … MAGA caps, smiling at drumming Indians …

    … setting the record straight, exposing racism.

    Palestine

    veering “into left-wing propaganda”

  60. “Faith Palileo, 18, said that before she took ethnic studies at Balboa High School in San Francisco, she would often cut class. She considered school a chore, filled with textbook-driven lessons that were irrelevant to her life.

    That changed, she said, when she enrolled in American history and ethnic studies classes taught by Nikhil Laud, one of the leaders of San Francisco’s program, which is seen as a model by many across the state.”

    So in other words, school really sucked until they made a class that inflated the achievements of my people while telling me to blame my inability to attend class on whitey presumably. Wow. And this portrayed as success. America is going to be a really interesting place in 10 to 20 years.

  61. To get an idea of how much standards have dropped over the 20th century, see the following:

    8th Grade Exam from Salinas, KS (1895)
    8th Grade Exam from Bullitt County, KY (1912)
    Harvard Entrance Exam (1869)

    I am willing to bet there is not a single Harvard undergrad that could pass that exam today. The idea that standardized testing has improved the selection of students for higher education, particularly at the elite end, is one of the biggest myths of the 20th century.

    • Replies: @Jesse
    Those tests were intended that most - or at least far more - people would fail. The idea that, demographically adjestedy, the past was a better educated country than now is just wrong.

    If those schools had the students and the expectations that public schools have now, they'd be radically different and the first things to go would be those examinations. And, considering the economy we have now, we can't go back to that even if we were willing to face the wrath of millions of parents once their 12 y/os were deemed ineducable.
  62. Getting ahead of the curb can leave you flat on your face.

  63. @eah
    Alison Collins

    I think this woman has come up on unz.com before -- ? -- anyway, here is the result of searching her Twitter timeline for "white OR race" --> link

    This kind of stuff is what happens when you elect racial grievance nutcases to school boards.

    The white parents in SF won’t cause much of a fuss, if they’ve decided to raise their children there and put them in public school chances are they’re true believers.

    The Asian parents on the other hand could provide much resistance once it’s realized the curriculum will be inferior as a result of a focus on ethnic studies.

    • Replies: @eah
    Private schools have a fairly strong presence in the SFBA, including SF itself -- especially private secondary schools (mostly Catholic/Jesuit) enjoy very good reputations and high demand.

    The situation today is probably comparable, if not further along in that even a higher fraction attend private school -- from 2014:

    A look into San Francisco’s education market

    While our public schools have broadened their reach, in terms of the socioeconomic diversity of families enrolled, we face a growing problem in San Francisco: public schools are losing out in the local education market place. ... Approximately one-third of the City’s 80,000 school-aged children attend private schools. Between 2009 and 2015 eleven new private schools will have opened in San Francisco. An existing school recently announced plans to double its enrollment.

    So like pretty much everywhere else, better-off parents, especially Whites and Asians, vote with their children's feet.
  64. @Jack D
    Didn't you read what it says above? Palestinians are indeed one of the subject ethnicities they want to teach. The Left is way ahead of right when it comes to anti-Semitism.

    Calling Arabs "indigenous" to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors "indigenous" to Mexico.

    “Calling Arabs “indigenous” to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors “indigenous” to Mexico.”

    Legitimizing Ashkenaz invaders of Palestine and their displacement and mass murder of Palestine’s previous inhabitants is like legitimizing Hitler’s attempted Drang nach Osten fur Deutsches Lebensraum.

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
    • Replies: @Jesse
    (1) Who cares? There's a middle ground between kissing Israel's ass, and pretending to care about another country's affairs.

    (2) I'd love to see everyone here get as worked up about China taking on the Uighurs. Everyone knows why you don't.

    (3) Backing the weak horse isn't a good look. Normal people, no matter what they say, like and respect strength.

  65. The documents have led to bitter debate in recent weeks over whether they veer into left-wing propaganda,

    YES

    and whether they are inclusive enough of Jews and other ethnic groups.

    DEPENDS WHAT YOU MEAN – do they include Jews among the white oppressors? Not much except when it comes to Palestine.

    The materials are unapologetically activist — and jargony.

    IS JARGONY A WORD?

    They ask students to “critique empire
    BAD
    and its relationship to white supremacy,
    BAD
    racism,
    BAD
    patriarchy
    BAD
    , cisheteropatriarchy,
    BAD
    capitalism,
    BAD
    ableism,
    BAD
    anthropocentrism
    BAD
    and other forms of power and oppression
    ALSO BAD

    HARD TO GET A DIALECTIC GOING WHEN ALL YOU HAVE IS BAD THINGS TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST. IDEALLY YOU WANT TO TEACH “SOCIALISM-GOOD” BUT MAYBE THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT QUITE READY FOR THAT YET. YET. I GUESS IT’S IMPLICIT IF WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET RID OF CAPITALISM ALONG WITH RACISM AND OTHER BAD THINGS.

    Which groups, and whose histories, should be included?
    WHICHEVER ONES HAVE THE POLITICAL MUSCLE TO GET THEMSELVES INCLUDED.

    Is the purpose to create young, left-leaning activists,
    YES

    or to give students access to a broad range of opinions?
    HELL NO. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    And are teachers, the majority of whom are white, ready to teach a discipline that is unfamiliar to many of them? …
    THE TEACHERS, LET ALONE THE STUDENTS, AREN’T EVEN CAPABLE OF SPELLING NOR UNDERSTANDING THE ETYMOLOGY OF “cisheteropatriarchy” AND THE OTHER ACADEMIC JARGON THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOVE DOWN THESE POOR KIDS THROATS. MAYBE A GOOD START WOULD BE TO TEACH THE TEACHERS (AND THEN THE STUDENTS) A LITTLE GREEK AND LATIN BUT THAT’S CRAZY TALK. QUICHE IS THE WAY TO GO NOW.

    The only good news here is that the student body is about as likely to absorb this course material as your dog. This stuff is good to teach to SWPL whites (esp. white girls) and a few high IQ minorities who would be comfortable attending Oberlin or Reed and working as activists in a non-profit, but for low IQ minorities this stuff is about as likely to stick as multivariate calculus.

  66. Frighteningly, this sort of pointless grievance-study onanism will probably prepare the kids quite well for their future academic and corporate careers as HR diversity commissars.

    To paraphrase Sarrazin, America is abolishing itself. First the organic inheritance of the Americans themselves, then the unique culture and way of life they shaped.

    This can go one of two ways, neither of which are pleasant. When you stretch a rubber band too far, it will either break or snap back and hurt your hand.

  67. • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @guest
    "always the first one on the dance floor"

    That's a strange thing to include, as I don't associate eagerness to dance in all situations with youth. Is she advertising limberness or willingness to grind up against you?
  68. @Ed
    The white parents in SF won’t cause much of a fuss, if they’ve decided to raise their children there and put them in public school chances are they’re true believers.

    The Asian parents on the other hand could provide much resistance once it’s realized the curriculum will be inferior as a result of a focus on ethnic studies.

    Private schools have a fairly strong presence in the SFBA, including SF itself — especially private secondary schools (mostly Catholic/Jesuit) enjoy very good reputations and high demand.

    The situation today is probably comparable, if not further along in that even a higher fraction attend private school — from 2014:

    A look into San Francisco’s education market

    While our public schools have broadened their reach, in terms of the socioeconomic diversity of families enrolled, we face a growing problem in San Francisco: public schools are losing out in the local education market place. … Approximately one-third of the City’s 80,000 school-aged children attend private schools. Between 2009 and 2015 eleven new private schools will have opened in San Francisco. An existing school recently announced plans to double its enrollment.

    So like pretty much everywhere else, better-off parents, especially Whites and Asians, vote with their children’s feet.

  69. @El Dato
    Imagine the future as a grievance-filled Museum of the Holocausts with shifty figures trying to interrogate you from behind cancelled statues, forever.

    Or District 9 ethnic shrimps fighting over little heaps of grievance.

    “critique empire and its relationship to white supremacy, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism and other forms of power and oppression.”
     
    I suppose I would not get any points for writing about black supremacy and black patriarchy or communism or having a show-and-tell about Daenerys.

    The debate in California highlights some of the difficult questions that educators will face: Which groups, and whose histories, should be included? Is the purpose to create young, left-leaning activists, or to give students access to a broad range of opinions? And are teachers, the majority of whom are white, ready to teach a discipline that is unfamiliar to many of them?
     
    These are serious questions, certainly pondered by Pol Pot.

    LOL!, though I’m pretty sure I know the way Pol Pot leaned on this question.

    When the Commies come around for the anti-revolutionaries next time, we’ll all be wearing contacts. Good luck with that one, Commie bitches!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    ... plus my AR and various bolt-action equipment...
    , @Kronos
    But the smarter ones would have undergone lasik surgery.
  70. @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL!, though I'm pretty sure I know the way Pol Pot leaned on this question.

    When the Commies come around for the anti-revolutionaries next time, we'll all be wearing contacts. Good luck with that one, Commie bitches!

    … plus my AR and various bolt-action equipment…

  71. I’m not sure, Steve, if you just mean lowering of test scores due to this latest instantiation of enstupidation*, or did you mean that even more of the Jewish and other parents will jerk their kids out of government schools faster than a Jamaican can jerk a chicken. Both?

    .

    * Some back-end alliteration there.

  72. @Justvisiting
    This dragon will soon eat its own tail--when students learn that their teachers are tools of the oppressive racist ruling class--and that Utopia is only possible when such barriers to equity is removed--and each student must take responsibility for making it happen with activism--here and now!

    Stand back and grab the popcorn!

    The Cultural Revolution comes to America! People think of Asians as being sorta quiet (this is ribrary!) but you haven’t seen riled up until you’ve seen Asian riled up. Unlike blacks, they are pretty good shots (black guy in Philly this week “shot” six cops using over 100 rounds, killed zero – in fact they were all out of the hospital the same day. Did he have his AR loaded with blanks? No wonder we lost Vietnam with guys like this as draftees. After his arrest the community had a rally to SUPPORT the shooter). But the truth is that the SF students are more Mexican and Central American than Chinese so they won’t be parading their ethnic studies teachers in dunce caps. Would be fun to see the Revolution eat its own, but not gonna happen.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Now, now Jack, don’t omit the best part. The “local community” spent six hours mocking and throwing things at the police while they were under fire. Not a single word about that in the Inquirer.
  73. @Larry, San Francisco
    Issues that won't be taught
    1. Holdomoor in Ukraine and other victims of Russian Collectivization
    2. Anything about the Gulag
    3. The Russian ethnic cleansings during WWII
    4. The Chinese murder of 2 or 3 million "landlords" after the revolution
    5. The death of about 50 million Chinese in the "Great Leap Forward"
    6. The 4 million or so who died during the cultural revolution
    7. The 2 million slaughtered in Cambodia
    8. The 1.5 million slaughtered/starved to death in Ethiopia by the Dergue.
    etc.

    9. The Arab slave trade. 10. The havoc the Mongols created in Eastern Europe. 11. The many attempts of the Turks to conquer all of Europe and the colonialisation of Southern Europe by the Ottoman Empire. 12. The colonialisation of surrounding territory done by the Aztecs. 13. The extent of human sacrifice done by Aztecs etc. 14. The treatment of women, ethnic and religious minorities and LGBT people in most non western countries. 15. Mass abortion of female fetuses in India and China

  74. …in which her students were prompted to choose a country in which genocide occured and produce a video project examing its implications for that country’s history and people.

    Countries in which genocide occurred are countries with different racial, religious, or ethnic groups sharing the same territory. From this, we learn that diversity is our greatest strength.

  75. “Arab-Americans had received short shrift”

    Maybe Elizabethan Usage could be added to the curriculum, even mention Shakespeare.

    Shrift: Absolution after confession and counseling.

    Was shriven
    Did shrive
    Shrove Tuesday
    Received shrift

    Received short shrift: Too many people behind me. Or, the priest’s face is chalky from physical pain and I can’t stand it. Or, like Barnard, time for the block.

    Anyway, short shrift isn’t the ideal.

    But I’m not mad about the cultural appropriation, comrades.

  76. @Paul
    Will Israel's treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught? And China's treatment of the Uyghur people? And the slaughter by African tribes of each other? And on and on? Or can we expect instead the usual liberal hypocrisy in which certain matters are avoided?

    Will Israel’s treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught?

    You mean the Samaritans? The Maronites? Or the ones who sold out to the invaders from the east?

  77. @Lawyer Guy
    At this point it should be obvious this is all done to make sure there isn't a middle class.

    The college degree needed to obtain a professional career being used as debt slavery to hold down the future professionals in the upper working class at best. Ensuring that people who can't afford private schools receive a truly craptastic secondary education for their children, while making sure the kids are too busy learning nonsense to educate themselves.

    The ruling class uses international and loss credit tax dodges to avoid paying any tax, while forcing the white workers to pay insane taxes to transfer wealth to blacks and illegals--there are literally 4 generations of blacks in Detroit who have never worked. Their hobby is committing crimes, but everything is free. Housing, medical, cash benefits, winter clothing credit, food...

    It always cracks me up when people say Biden is the one Democratic candidate who is on the side of the middle class. He has been one of the biggest pushers of the consumer debt and student debt traps.

  78. @El Dato
    So we heard you like Marxist-Leninist jargon and Cybernetics?

    Cybernetics and the Dialectic Materialism of Marx and Lenin


    One cannot completely understand Marx' Kapital and especially the first chapter unless one has studied and digested the whole logic of Hegel.

    Vladimir Ilyich (Ulyanov) Lenin
     

    This means you are supposed to be on crack.

    This essay is an enlarged representation of a lecture the author did deliver at the University of Cologne (Köln, Germany) July 17, 1964.

    Several passages of little interest to the American reader have been deleted.

    The paper was prepared under the Sponsorship of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, Directorate of Information Sciences, Grant AF – AFOSR – 8 – 63 and 480-64
     

    Let's hear it from the blue hair, I mean the tweet-jacketed leather-elbow gentleman:

    Such an approach has become necessary since the advent of cybernetics in the Soviet Union. Although the recognition of cybernetics in Russia has been rather recent, Marxist theorists have nevertheless found it necessary to confront the new science with their ideology. It was felt from the very beginning among soviet philosophers that cybernetic theory was considerable more than one new technical discipline among others developing a partial scientific aspect beside other coordinated view-points. Its universal interdisciplinary character which stemmed from new, trans-classic epistemological and ontological assumption was quickly recognized in the Soviet Union. This raised at once the question whether cybernetics (and its implied philosophic assumptions) were compatible with Marxism-Leninism and its conceptual basis of dialectic materialism. At first the answer was wholly negative. An anonymous author wrote 1953 – five years after publication of Norbert Wiener's "Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and in the Machine" (New York 1948) – in Voprosy Filosofii that "Cybernetics serves the reactionaries of bourgeois society and idealistic philosophy." But the tenor of the comments on cybernetics changed rapidly – and not only in the Soviet Union. This change is heralded by the six "Dialogues on Cybernetics" which were published in Warsaw in 1954 by Bognslavski, Grenievsky and Szapiro [14]. The dialogues admit that the theory of programming of computers, of transmission of information and prosthetic technique are compatible with Marxist concepts.
     
    Phew! Escaped a late-20th century fatwa there.

    Laughed out loud, El Dato.

  79. Ethnic studies do not belong “at the heart” of any school’s curriculum. This is just ridiculous.

    This is BS on a colossal scale.

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving. I also wonder if this focus on ethnic studies has something to do with reconciling Hispanics and Blacks to some Asians’ very high achievements vs. their groups. I looked it up and in 2014 only about 13% of the school students were white; 41% were Asian, 10% were Black, 27% were Hispanic, 9% were Other.

    This will be a criminal distraction of student attention from where it should be focused.

    I also think this is a criminal distraction of the public from other issues in San Francisco. I’d be interested to hear what people who know San Francisco think is really going on here.

    Are the San Francisco elites ready to just give up on helping the Black and Hispanic kids do better with their actual studies? That’s what this sounds like to me.

    https://priceonomics.com/where-are-all-the-white-people-in-san-francisco/

    • Replies: @1661er

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving.
     
    My experience that all the services/professions that's not Tech or FIRE sector that services them had been on downward spiral in San Francisco/Silicon Valley. SFUSD can not pay new teachers enough to relocate there. So they either hire people who could not get hired anywhere else , people who lives in public/subsidized housing or dilettantes with family/marriage money. And we are seeing the result.
    , @Jack D
    Of course they are not REALLY going to put Ethnic Studies "at the heart" of their curriculum. This is just meant as a signal that it should be taken more seriously than it is now, which is not very. As a practical matter, a bunch of SJWs will be hired to indoctrinate the teachers and re-write the curriculum. The teachers will pretend to teach the stuff for a while and then get bored with it and go back to their usual lesson plans. A vague watered down version of it will be taught but nothing like the full court press that the proponents are pitching here.

    IF this plan was really implemented it would do real damage to an already failing school system but there's no real danger of that. These people are so incompetent and corrupt that they would be hard pressed to keep the lights on without white men to help them (see Puerto Rico) so the chances that they can effectively implement a new curriculum are nil.
    , @Alden
    If 41% are Asian shouldn’t their allegedly high IQs and extreme homework hours raise SF Unified’s test scores to the heights?

    Seriously, San Francisco’s just not a public school town. Even the children of black bus drivers and postal workers go to private schools. Even White kids on welfare go to private schools.

    It’s like Rice a Roni, a San Francisco thing.
    , @Dansereau
    White people move when they have kids. There is a Bay Area joke amongst white yuppie types:

    Q: What does every kid in San Francisco get on their six birthday?

    A: A bedroom in Marin.
  80. From the NYT article:

    But the area of the draft curriculum that proved most divisive is how it treats Palestinians and Jews.

    The California Legislative Jewish Caucus wrote a letter saying the draft lacks “meaningful discussion of anti-Semitism,” “singles out Israel for condemnation” and “denigrates Jews” using a narrative that “echoes the propaganda of the Nazi regime.”

    The letter cites translated song lyrics included in one of the model lesson plans, in which a hip-hop artist raps, in Arabic: “For every free political prisoner, an Israeli colony is expanded. For each greeting, a thousand houses were demolished. They use the press so they can manufacture.”

    The reference to the press, the letter says, is “a classic antisemitic trope about Jewish control of the media.”

    Bwahaha. Multiculturalism is finally coming back to bite the Jews in the ass. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer group of people.

    • Agree: Alden
  81. Shereen Bhalla, director of education for the Hindu American Foundation, said the curriculum should include information on the contributions Indian-Americans have made to the United States, and on the discrimination they have faced through immigration restrictions and hate crimes.

    OK then, should we also talk about the caste system in India and the oppression of the dalits who are confined to a life of tending to the “night soil” of the upper castes?

  82. Those are some of the lesson plans suggested in a draft of California’s newly proposed ethnic studies curriculum for K-12 public schools. The documents have led to bitter debate in recent weeks over whether they veer into left-wing propaganda,

    No, really? Left wing propaganda? In our schools? Now that’s just crazy talk.

    and whether they are inclusive enough of Jews and other ethnic groups.

    Neocon Jews aren’t having it. Everything is and must be about the suffering of the Jews!

  83. @El Dato
    So we heard you like Marxist-Leninist jargon and Cybernetics?

    Cybernetics and the Dialectic Materialism of Marx and Lenin


    One cannot completely understand Marx' Kapital and especially the first chapter unless one has studied and digested the whole logic of Hegel.

    Vladimir Ilyich (Ulyanov) Lenin
     

    This means you are supposed to be on crack.

    This essay is an enlarged representation of a lecture the author did deliver at the University of Cologne (Köln, Germany) July 17, 1964.

    Several passages of little interest to the American reader have been deleted.

    The paper was prepared under the Sponsorship of the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, Directorate of Information Sciences, Grant AF – AFOSR – 8 – 63 and 480-64
     

    Let's hear it from the blue hair, I mean the tweet-jacketed leather-elbow gentleman:

    Such an approach has become necessary since the advent of cybernetics in the Soviet Union. Although the recognition of cybernetics in Russia has been rather recent, Marxist theorists have nevertheless found it necessary to confront the new science with their ideology. It was felt from the very beginning among soviet philosophers that cybernetic theory was considerable more than one new technical discipline among others developing a partial scientific aspect beside other coordinated view-points. Its universal interdisciplinary character which stemmed from new, trans-classic epistemological and ontological assumption was quickly recognized in the Soviet Union. This raised at once the question whether cybernetics (and its implied philosophic assumptions) were compatible with Marxism-Leninism and its conceptual basis of dialectic materialism. At first the answer was wholly negative. An anonymous author wrote 1953 – five years after publication of Norbert Wiener's "Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and in the Machine" (New York 1948) – in Voprosy Filosofii that "Cybernetics serves the reactionaries of bourgeois society and idealistic philosophy." But the tenor of the comments on cybernetics changed rapidly – and not only in the Soviet Union. This change is heralded by the six "Dialogues on Cybernetics" which were published in Warsaw in 1954 by Bognslavski, Grenievsky and Szapiro [14]. The dialogues admit that the theory of programming of computers, of transmission of information and prosthetic technique are compatible with Marxist concepts.
     
    Phew! Escaped a late-20th century fatwa there.

    There was actually a school of Marxist thought that computers would be a substitute for markets. There was no really good price setting mechanism in any Communist society. This led to a lot of misallocation of resources. Market prices actually carry a lot of information in them about supply and demand. If the market price of eggs keeps falling, this means that you have too many chickens and should cut back your flocks. Conversely, if the market price goes up, it’s time to build more hen houses. The Soviet economy lacked any mechanism liked that so there were always either shortages (most of the time) or (once in a while) surpluses of unwanted stuff that would pile up and spoil. There was a lot of hope that all Soviet enterprises could be connected to each other by computer and this would usher in a new era where the efficiency of the Soviet economy not only met but exceeded that of capitalism. The computers would not only REFLECT but actually ANTICIPATE future supply and demand directly and without having to deal with filthy money, which was going to be abolished in the long term anyway.

    At the end of the Allende regime in Chile they were trying to set up such a network between all the factories that they had seized and they had a futuristic control room that looked sort of like the bridge of the Starship Enterprise meets Italian Modern. But then there was the CIA coup and we never got to find out whether Cybernetic Socialism really is better than Capitalism. We were THAT close.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Still one of my favorite examples of this problem.

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2009/09/soviet_shoes.html


    “My informal survey suggested that some of the longest lines in Moscow were for shoes. At first I assumed that the inefficient Soviet economy did not produce enough shoes, and for that reason, even in the capital, people were forced to line up for hours to buy them. . . . Then I looked up the statistics.

    I was wrong. The Soviet Union was the largest producer of shoes in the world. It was turning out 800 million pairs of shoes a year–twice as many as Italy, three times as many as the United States, four times as many as China. Production amounted to more than three pairs of shoes per year for every Soviet man, woman, and child.

    The problem with shoes, it turned out, was not an absolute shortage. It was a far more subtle malfunction. The comfort, the fit, the design, and the size mix of Soviet shoes were so out of sync with what people needed and wanted that they were willing to stand in line for hours to buy the occasional pair, usually imported, that they liked.”
  84. @notsaying
    Ethnic studies do not belong "at the heart" of any school's curriculum. This is just ridiculous.

    This is BS on a colossal scale.

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving. I also wonder if this focus on ethnic studies has something to do with reconciling Hispanics and Blacks to some Asians' very high achievements vs. their groups. I looked it up and in 2014 only about 13% of the school students were white; 41% were Asian, 10% were Black, 27% were Hispanic, 9% were Other.

    This will be a criminal distraction of student attention from where it should be focused.

    I also think this is a criminal distraction of the public from other issues in San Francisco. I'd be interested to hear what people who know San Francisco think is really going on here.

    Are the San Francisco elites ready to just give up on helping the Black and Hispanic kids do better with their actual studies? That's what this sounds like to me.

    https://priceonomics.com/where-are-all-the-white-people-in-san-francisco/

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving.

    My experience that all the services/professions that’s not Tech or FIRE sector that services them had been on downward spiral in San Francisco/Silicon Valley. SFUSD can not pay new teachers enough to relocate there. So they either hire people who could not get hired anywhere else , people who lives in public/subsidized housing or dilettantes with family/marriage money. And we are seeing the result.

  85. @notsaying
    Ethnic studies do not belong "at the heart" of any school's curriculum. This is just ridiculous.

    This is BS on a colossal scale.

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving. I also wonder if this focus on ethnic studies has something to do with reconciling Hispanics and Blacks to some Asians' very high achievements vs. their groups. I looked it up and in 2014 only about 13% of the school students were white; 41% were Asian, 10% were Black, 27% were Hispanic, 9% were Other.

    This will be a criminal distraction of student attention from where it should be focused.

    I also think this is a criminal distraction of the public from other issues in San Francisco. I'd be interested to hear what people who know San Francisco think is really going on here.

    Are the San Francisco elites ready to just give up on helping the Black and Hispanic kids do better with their actual studies? That's what this sounds like to me.

    https://priceonomics.com/where-are-all-the-white-people-in-san-francisco/

    Of course they are not REALLY going to put Ethnic Studies “at the heart” of their curriculum. This is just meant as a signal that it should be taken more seriously than it is now, which is not very. As a practical matter, a bunch of SJWs will be hired to indoctrinate the teachers and re-write the curriculum. The teachers will pretend to teach the stuff for a while and then get bored with it and go back to their usual lesson plans. A vague watered down version of it will be taught but nothing like the full court press that the proponents are pitching here.

    IF this plan was really implemented it would do real damage to an already failing school system but there’s no real danger of that. These people are so incompetent and corrupt that they would be hard pressed to keep the lights on without white men to help them (see Puerto Rico) so the chances that they can effectively implement a new curriculum are nil.

  86. @Lawyer Guy
    At this point it should be obvious this is all done to make sure there isn't a middle class.

    The college degree needed to obtain a professional career being used as debt slavery to hold down the future professionals in the upper working class at best. Ensuring that people who can't afford private schools receive a truly craptastic secondary education for their children, while making sure the kids are too busy learning nonsense to educate themselves.

    The ruling class uses international and loss credit tax dodges to avoid paying any tax, while forcing the white workers to pay insane taxes to transfer wealth to blacks and illegals--there are literally 4 generations of blacks in Detroit who have never worked. Their hobby is committing crimes, but everything is free. Housing, medical, cash benefits, winter clothing credit, food...

    Their hobby is committing crimes

    That’s evolution. Wasn’t it Henry Harpending’s observation that African Blacks have no hobbies?

    Sigh (they need help, of course, don’t they? – Tom Wolfe’s “Back to Blood” comes to my mind, the scene, where the liberal professor’s daughter actually tries to help in such circumstances in Miami; and the disastrous result of it…). This stuff ain’t easy.

  87. @SunBakedSuburb
    "(muh slaves, muh cotton.)"

    With an attitude like that you'll never be invited to contribute to the NYT's 1619 Project.

    That’s a dubious honor at best. But honestly, the NYT is not going to survive much longer. It’s experienced such a cognitive decline from baby boomer mismanagement that it’s no longer considered a serious paper. It’s just full of Clinton Democrats and their messed up nepotistic children. Within ten to fifteen years it’s going to be shuttered. (Or re-emerge from one hell of a purging by Bernie Sanders/Hubert Humphrey Democrats.)

    I can imagine Bernie (or more likely his successor) “dispatching” the NYT with quite a bit of grief and melancholy.

  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL!, though I'm pretty sure I know the way Pol Pot leaned on this question.

    When the Commies come around for the anti-revolutionaries next time, we'll all be wearing contacts. Good luck with that one, Commie bitches!

    But the smarter ones would have undergone lasik surgery.

  89. @Jack D
    There was actually a school of Marxist thought that computers would be a substitute for markets. There was no really good price setting mechanism in any Communist society. This led to a lot of misallocation of resources. Market prices actually carry a lot of information in them about supply and demand. If the market price of eggs keeps falling, this means that you have too many chickens and should cut back your flocks. Conversely, if the market price goes up, it's time to build more hen houses. The Soviet economy lacked any mechanism liked that so there were always either shortages (most of the time) or (once in a while) surpluses of unwanted stuff that would pile up and spoil. There was a lot of hope that all Soviet enterprises could be connected to each other by computer and this would usher in a new era where the efficiency of the Soviet economy not only met but exceeded that of capitalism. The computers would not only REFLECT but actually ANTICIPATE future supply and demand directly and without having to deal with filthy money, which was going to be abolished in the long term anyway.

    At the end of the Allende regime in Chile they were trying to set up such a network between all the factories that they had seized and they had a futuristic control room that looked sort of like the bridge of the Starship Enterprise meets Italian Modern. But then there was the CIA coup and we never got to find out whether Cybernetic Socialism really is better than Capitalism. We were THAT close.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

    Still one of my favorite examples of this problem.

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2009/09/soviet_shoes.html

    “My informal survey suggested that some of the longest lines in Moscow were for shoes. At first I assumed that the inefficient Soviet economy did not produce enough shoes, and for that reason, even in the capital, people were forced to line up for hours to buy them. . . . Then I looked up the statistics.

    I was wrong. The Soviet Union was the largest producer of shoes in the world. It was turning out 800 million pairs of shoes a year–twice as many as Italy, three times as many as the United States, four times as many as China. Production amounted to more than three pairs of shoes per year for every Soviet man, woman, and child.

    The problem with shoes, it turned out, was not an absolute shortage. It was a far more subtle malfunction. The comfort, the fit, the design, and the size mix of Soviet shoes were so out of sync with what people needed and wanted that they were willing to stand in line for hours to buy the occasional pair, usually imported, that they liked.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right, the fundamental problem with the Soviet economy was not that there was not enough stuff or that none of the stuff was any good. It was that 1) much, not all, of the stuff was inappropriately constructed or sized, and 2) they made a lot of stuff no one wanted while not making what people did want. There was no need or ability for plant managers to make what people wanted, they made what they were told to make, and the people who told them may have been stupid, drunk or corrupt-or not;it made little difference, because the principle of a command economy just didn't work.

    Consider the Russian guitar. It was often very well made for the price-by furniture standards, that is. They used good wood and a lot of it. Too much, in fact. It had poor acoustic response because the top was way too thick. They were made by furniture makers, and they were durable and looked good, which is what furniture should do. Also, most were seven strings (the 'semistrunka') when the guitar market was in fact for six string guitars. It was priced at a few rubles when even the old Chicago made Kay and Harmony guitars were over $100 in the US.

    Ironically, some Soviet warehoused products are now in some demand in the West, certain electronic components, camera lenses, watches, gauges, etc. They made way too many of some of this stuff.

    Household goods like appliances were always in undersupply and were crude, but would run forever with a little jackleg maintenance. I'm told that Soviet era refrigerators are usually still running, they are copies of the old belt drive Norge of Lisa Loopner ( and Doolin's Troubleshooter's Bible) fame.

    After the fall of the Soviet empire, it was found that until the end, the Soviets felt their greatest intelligence failure was that they'd never found the secret organization in the US that told companies how many cars, TV sets, and rolls of toilet paper they should make. You see, there HAD to be such an office. They got plans to the atomic bomb, but never where the secret office was, and that drove them nuts.
  90. @Beavertales
    In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school.

    Their community decided on ethno-centric indoctrination long ago.

    ‘In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school…’

    If this is so, it’s a recent development. Do you have any data to support your assertion?

    • Replies: @Alden
    They do in Los Angeles if at all possible.
    , @International Jew
    In the San Francisco Bay Area you have about 70,000 Jews and about eight Jewish elementary schools (with typically 10-15 kids per grade).

    So no.
  91. “Accomplicehip” is the title of my bank heist speculative screenplay.

  92. “pronounced ‘herstory’”

    Then write it that way, you barbarians.

    Or don’t, because it’s stupid.

  93. Homeschool.

    • Replies: @Jesse
    Oh, for God's sake. Every "conservative" policy these days seems to boil down to running away. Other races colonizing the nice real estate? Flee to the suburbs. Lost the education system? Spend vast amounts of money fleeing through private schools and homeschooling. It's wasteful, cowardly, and has nothing whatsoever to offer your white base.
  94. @Oleaginous Outrager
    https://twitter.com/paul_hundred/status/1162743463491907584?s=20

    “always the first one on the dance floor”

    That’s a strange thing to include, as I don’t associate eagerness to dance in all situations with youth. Is she advertising limberness or willingness to grind up against you?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    She’s a free spirit! She embraces life with passion! She’s an exhausting narcissist who can’t bear not to be the center of attention!!!
  95. Somewhat related: Google employees, engineers and managers sign a petition demanding that Google stop helping the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency make migrants more comfortable–because, they say, the CBP has been making migrants uncomfortable.

    Logic like this is why they’re paid the big bucks.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbp-mark-morgan-google-petition

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Google employees, engineers and managers sign a petition demanding that Google stop helping the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency make migrants more comfortable–because, they say, the CBP has been making migrants uncomfortable.

    Logic like this is why they’re paid the big bucks.
     
    It's interesting because they might not lack brainpower.

    Interesting too is the question, how it comes, that we see the contradictions they are in, whereas these Google-employees rather don't. - Is this what big money does: Destroy big brainpower?
  96. @mmack
    “Concordia said that SFUSD’s ethnic studies program is in many ways ahead of the curb.”

    Don’t worry Steve, once this program fails SFUSD will kick it to the curve.

    To quote Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction, “English, do you speak it [email protected]#$er?!?”

    There’s a Jewish men’s club in San Francisco called Concordia. It’s the Jewish equivalent of Olympic and Bohemian clubs.

  97. @Colin Wright
    'In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school...'

    If this is so, it's a recent development. Do you have any data to support your assertion?

    They do in Los Angeles if at all possible.

  98. @Alden
    Who goes to public schools in San Francisco? Nobody but project and section 8 retards. There are actually more private high schools in San Francisco than public high schools.

    Who cares about blacks and public schools ? There’s a French term “ internal exiles.” It means that a group hated and reviled by government media academia should just step away and create their own quiet world.

    It’s true there are more private high schools than public ones here, but most of the public kids are still Chinese, meaning they’re likely not from welfare families. I’ve had two run-ins with SF public school Asians. In the first, I passed four 17 year-olds on the sidewalk two blocks from Lowell High, the academic school. I don’t recall whether I annoyed them first with some sort of old man plaint, but anyway they told me that I was responsible for wiping out the native Americans. The second time, I was on a bus filled with Lincoln High kids, and four Chinese boys were bragging to each other about who got the worst grades, which I guess means they were aping their black classmates. Anyway, I’m pretty sure standards were destroyed long ago.

  99. This all sounds like good material for a Tom Wolfe novel.

  100. @notsaying
    Ethnic studies do not belong "at the heart" of any school's curriculum. This is just ridiculous.

    This is BS on a colossal scale.

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving. I also wonder if this focus on ethnic studies has something to do with reconciling Hispanics and Blacks to some Asians' very high achievements vs. their groups. I looked it up and in 2014 only about 13% of the school students were white; 41% were Asian, 10% were Black, 27% were Hispanic, 9% were Other.

    This will be a criminal distraction of student attention from where it should be focused.

    I also think this is a criminal distraction of the public from other issues in San Francisco. I'd be interested to hear what people who know San Francisco think is really going on here.

    Are the San Francisco elites ready to just give up on helping the Black and Hispanic kids do better with their actual studies? That's what this sounds like to me.

    https://priceonomics.com/where-are-all-the-white-people-in-san-francisco/

    If 41% are Asian shouldn’t their allegedly high IQs and extreme homework hours raise SF Unified’s test scores to the heights?

    Seriously, San Francisco’s just not a public school town. Even the children of black bus drivers and postal workers go to private schools. Even White kids on welfare go to private schools.

    It’s like Rice a Roni, a San Francisco thing.

  101. Yeah, New York City under DeBlasio is doing the same thing…working overtime to lower test scores even further with all sorts of nonsense special courses on victimology 2.0…

  102. @Twinkie
    Homeschool.

    Oh, for God’s sake. Every “conservative” policy these days seems to boil down to running away. Other races colonizing the nice real estate? Flee to the suburbs. Lost the education system? Spend vast amounts of money fleeing through private schools and homeschooling. It’s wasteful, cowardly, and has nothing whatsoever to offer your white base.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    You don’t have kids.
  103. Jewish schools in Palo Alto are a good example.

    A Jewish child can graduate high school having spent his youth going to Jewish summer camps, and perhaps made a complimentary trip to Israel.

    Jewish parents do not want their children to receive an inferior education. Rest assured Jewish schools provide them with a strong ethnic identity along with solid academics.

  104. @Jus' Sayin'...

    "Calling Arabs “indigenous” to Israel is like calling Spanish conquistadors “indigenous” to Mexico."

     

    Legitimizing Ashkenaz invaders of Palestine and their displacement and mass murder of Palestine's previous inhabitants is like legitimizing Hitler's attempted Drang nach Osten fur Deutsches Lebensraum.

    (1) Who cares? There’s a middle ground between kissing Israel’s ass, and pretending to care about another country’s affairs.

    (2) I’d love to see everyone here get as worked up about China taking on the Uighurs. Everyone knows why you don’t.

    (3) Backing the weak horse isn’t a good look. Normal people, no matter what they say, like and respect strength.

  105. @Hopscotch
    To get an idea of how much standards have dropped over the 20th century, see the following:

    - 8th Grade Exam from Salinas, KS (1895)
    - 8th Grade Exam from Bullitt County, KY (1912)
    - Harvard Entrance Exam (1869)

    I am willing to bet there is not a single Harvard undergrad that could pass that exam today. The idea that standardized testing has improved the selection of students for higher education, particularly at the elite end, is one of the biggest myths of the 20th century.

    Those tests were intended that most – or at least far more – people would fail. The idea that, demographically adjestedy, the past was a better educated country than now is just wrong.

    If those schools had the students and the expectations that public schools have now, they’d be radically different and the first things to go would be those examinations. And, considering the economy we have now, we can’t go back to that even if we were willing to face the wrath of millions of parents once their 12 y/os were deemed ineducable.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Hopscotch
    In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas. Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900. That doesn't exactly reflect well on a century of Progressive education.

    As for the Harvard Exam, there is no excuse. In 1869, there were 200 students admitted from a small male-only applicant pool in the US. Today, the class size has grown by 10x and the theoretical applicant pool has grown by more than 40x, now including both women and global applicants.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests. But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20's, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.
  106. Public education is a political institution.

  107. Here in Illinois, the state pols this week mandated LGBTQ crap be taught in history classes. The elites and the education establishment apparently WANT to make students stupid.

  108. @Hopscotch
    This is another wave in the 100-year erosion of the education system's ability to impart Western thought. The only two instances where there has been collective conservative outrage about primary education involved prayer in schools and the Pledge of Allegiance. But they didn't bat an eye about the several-decades-long cultural neutering of education, which involved removing Classics, Civics and Western Civ from the curriculum. It never dawned on them that maybe, just maybe, these courses were useful for imparting Western culture.

    Fast forward to today, conservatives will freak out about Big Tech, MSM, higher education and government overreach. But the biggest form of indoctrination still occurs in primary and secondary schools. It also has a knock-on effect of causing self-censorship in the home, where parents may not agree with the curriculum, but are reluctant to criticize it outright, since their child is the one who will be penalized.

    The conservative response of "send them to private schools because free market" is a non-response. In addition to showing they don't give a shit about the middle class (who are still stuck paying taxes to warehouse society's kids), it is also a fairly predictable conservative milquetoast, worthy of Reagan Republicans, and the Eisenhower Republicans before them. Say whatever you will about the left, but at least they fight for culture, if only in the sense they wish to destroy it.

    The conservative response of “send them to private schools because free market” is a non-response.

    Hops: Will you go to bed with me?
    Fergie: No! You ugly.
    Hops: That’s a non-response.

  109. The school calendar will have to change. Students lose 3 months or more a year under the present schedule. It’s impossible to teach our youngsters the full scope and depravity of white, cisgendered, normative, homophobic/transphobic, racist terror unleashed on them and their ancestors in just 12 years of school time. Another arguement for universal college education, where these topics of discrmination, white supremacy and the Holocaust can be covered in more detail.

    America, circa 2055, is going to be fantastic.

  110. Lamborghini actually likes their cars to be destroyed in movies.
    No other car company is usually willing to have their car shown to be in a horrific accident, so Lamborghini only has to give them a car or two, without paying anything for the product placement.
    [actually learnt something from…. youtube]

  111. Another way of looking at this is that it means public school students who are considering college get to learn the vocabulary of nonsense that better off private school students will have absorbed from their woke teachers which is required in order to get into and then succeed, and avoid social embarrassment at, college. I heard a podcast yesterday in which a (I think) mexican-american student at pomona college was saying she felt socially isolated out of fear for saying the wrong thing in groups when the conversation was being conducted in SJW or PC terminology (she used those specific terms) which she associated with students from higher income backgrounds.

  112. @Jesse
    Oh, for God's sake. Every "conservative" policy these days seems to boil down to running away. Other races colonizing the nice real estate? Flee to the suburbs. Lost the education system? Spend vast amounts of money fleeing through private schools and homeschooling. It's wasteful, cowardly, and has nothing whatsoever to offer your white base.

    You don’t have kids.

  113. “more that 3/4’s of California students are non-white…”

    Is it just me, or does it seem like the media’s been seriously sand bagging the stats of our ongoing replacement.

    Seems like there should be more effort on our side making these stats well known, especially to normies. It’s that shocking.

  114. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos
    Still one of my favorite examples of this problem.

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2009/09/soviet_shoes.html


    “My informal survey suggested that some of the longest lines in Moscow were for shoes. At first I assumed that the inefficient Soviet economy did not produce enough shoes, and for that reason, even in the capital, people were forced to line up for hours to buy them. . . . Then I looked up the statistics.

    I was wrong. The Soviet Union was the largest producer of shoes in the world. It was turning out 800 million pairs of shoes a year–twice as many as Italy, three times as many as the United States, four times as many as China. Production amounted to more than three pairs of shoes per year for every Soviet man, woman, and child.

    The problem with shoes, it turned out, was not an absolute shortage. It was a far more subtle malfunction. The comfort, the fit, the design, and the size mix of Soviet shoes were so out of sync with what people needed and wanted that they were willing to stand in line for hours to buy the occasional pair, usually imported, that they liked.”

    Right, the fundamental problem with the Soviet economy was not that there was not enough stuff or that none of the stuff was any good. It was that 1) much, not all, of the stuff was inappropriately constructed or sized, and 2) they made a lot of stuff no one wanted while not making what people did want. There was no need or ability for plant managers to make what people wanted, they made what they were told to make, and the people who told them may have been stupid, drunk or corrupt-or not;it made little difference, because the principle of a command economy just didn’t work.

    Consider the Russian guitar. It was often very well made for the price-by furniture standards, that is. They used good wood and a lot of it. Too much, in fact. It had poor acoustic response because the top was way too thick. They were made by furniture makers, and they were durable and looked good, which is what furniture should do. Also, most were seven strings (the ‘semistrunka’) when the guitar market was in fact for six string guitars. It was priced at a few rubles when even the old Chicago made Kay and Harmony guitars were over $100 in the US.

    Ironically, some Soviet warehoused products are now in some demand in the West, certain electronic components, camera lenses, watches, gauges, etc. They made way too many of some of this stuff.

    Household goods like appliances were always in undersupply and were crude, but would run forever with a little jackleg maintenance. I’m told that Soviet era refrigerators are usually still running, they are copies of the old belt drive Norge of Lisa Loopner ( and Doolin’s Troubleshooter’s Bible) fame.

    After the fall of the Soviet empire, it was found that until the end, the Soviets felt their greatest intelligence failure was that they’d never found the secret organization in the US that told companies how many cars, TV sets, and rolls of toilet paper they should make. You see, there HAD to be such an office. They got plans to the atomic bomb, but never where the secret office was, and that drove them nuts.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    This is also one of my favorites.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2017/11/28/overpricing-renewable-power-is-dangerous/#29dbe53741de

    “An old Soviet-era joke goes like this: Stalin wakes up in a hospital and is informed that glorious Soviet medicine has resurrected him, and it is now 2047. “You will be pleased to hear, Comrade First Secretary, that the entire world is Communist except for New Zealand.” “Why not New Zealand?” Stalin asks. The doctor shrugs, “Someone has to tell us what prices are.””
    , @Jack D
    Belt drive compressors are inherent repairable because everything is out there in the open. A modern hermetic compressor is like a mystery box - once it gets sealed up at the factory you can never see or touch what's inside again, so when something inside breaks all you can do is throw it out and get a new one (which rarely pays so you chuck the entire fridge instead).

    OTOH, there is a lot more to break in a belt drive compressor. The reason they went to hermetics in the first place is that the seal on the compressor shaft is always a weak point. The belt drive compressors also have remarkably sophisticated (and complex) float valves and other electromechanical controls with all sorts of little springs and bellows and needle valves, etc., all of which can break or crud up or corrode. In the analog era, engineers had to be very clever to come up with control solutions - nowadays you just put in a few sensors and write code.

    It's really remarkable to see what sort of complex devices, calling for precision machining, etc. were being turned out 80+ years ago based on hand drawn blueprints and without a single computer. The stuff we make nowadays with powdered metal gears and stamped sheet metal, molded plastic, etc. looks like (and is) junk by comparison - no way is that stuff going to be running in 80 years and sometimes not in 8.

    There are guys that get these things running today and that's really remarkable. Not only do you have to fix all the stuff that has dried up or corroded after 80 years but you also have to deal with the fact that modern refrigerants are quite different than sulfur dioxide and you have to adjust the control systems and lubrication to deal with this.
  115. @Dieter Kief

    She and her classmates made posters, featuring their own photographs, on which they wrote down and countered the racial and ethnic stereotypes they had faced.

     


    And, no doubt, they talked about their hair.
     
    Could hardly breathe after reading this (because laughter). These are the days of the (recurring) miracles and wonder - this is the long-distance - - - wailing, woe, affliction, distress and misery all at once.

    If not anyone else, Dieter, I got your Paul Simon song reference. Very Good! It’s not my favorite of his stuff, but still good …

  116. @Jesse
    Those tests were intended that most - or at least far more - people would fail. The idea that, demographically adjestedy, the past was a better educated country than now is just wrong.

    If those schools had the students and the expectations that public schools have now, they'd be radically different and the first things to go would be those examinations. And, considering the economy we have now, we can't go back to that even if we were willing to face the wrath of millions of parents once their 12 y/os were deemed ineducable.

    In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas. Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900. That doesn’t exactly reflect well on a century of Progressive education.

    As for the Harvard Exam, there is no excuse. In 1869, there were 200 students admitted from a small male-only applicant pool in the US. Today, the class size has grown by 10x and the theoretical applicant pool has grown by more than 40x, now including both women and global applicants.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests. But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20’s, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.

    • Replies: @Jesse

    "In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas."
     
    Holy missing the point. Most eighth graders in the 19th century couldn't pass it either. You're looking at a system that, for better or worse, that was much more comfortable booting kids out than we are.

    Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900.
     
    Uh, no. Schools in Ye Olden Days could boot the more difficult to educate out. Schools today can't. If you took, say, the entirety of white kids today and the entirety of white kids back then, they'd be about equal. If anything, the kids of today would be slightly better educated, albeit at massive expense.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests.
     
    Oh, FFS. You can't put 14 y/os out of school, even if you ignore things like disparate impact (which, even with decades of carping ineffectually, you simply can't). What are they meant to do? Where are the manufacturing and farming jobs that the most put together might be able to do? Even if we go into an alternate timeline where there are any such jobs, what is that cheap labor going to do to automation and adult wages? (All this ignores the fact that schooling also keeps many of the less functional away from normal society for a few blessed hours in the week until some of them get a clue.)

    But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20’s, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.
     
    False dichotomy. And one that simply doesn't apply to tens of millions of people outside the upper- and middle middle classes. People who can't learn elementary or middle school material in our arbitrarily set timeframe aren't the same people going to college and building up huge debt. What the former need is an education system that's allowed to teach them what they need to know and what they are able to learn, followed by jobs and housing markets that allow them to live a prosperous adult life.

    Putting people on the left hand side of the Bell Curve out between the ages of 12 and 17 to fend for themselves on jobs that either don't exist or are already in a race to the bottom with immigration and outsourcing won't help anything. This isn't the 19th century.

  117. @Jack D
    The Cultural Revolution comes to America! People think of Asians as being sorta quiet (this is ribrary!) but you haven't seen riled up until you've seen Asian riled up. Unlike blacks, they are pretty good shots (black guy in Philly this week "shot" six cops using over 100 rounds, killed zero - in fact they were all out of the hospital the same day. Did he have his AR loaded with blanks? No wonder we lost Vietnam with guys like this as draftees. After his arrest the community had a rally to SUPPORT the shooter). But the truth is that the SF students are more Mexican and Central American than Chinese so they won't be parading their ethnic studies teachers in dunce caps. Would be fun to see the Revolution eat its own, but not gonna happen.

    Now, now Jack, don’t omit the best part. The “local community” spent six hours mocking and throwing things at the police while they were under fire. Not a single word about that in the Inquirer.

  118. @guest
    "always the first one on the dance floor"

    That's a strange thing to include, as I don't associate eagerness to dance in all situations with youth. Is she advertising limberness or willingness to grind up against you?

    She’s a free spirit! She embraces life with passion! She’s an exhausting narcissist who can’t bear not to be the center of attention!!!

  119. @Anonymous
    Right, the fundamental problem with the Soviet economy was not that there was not enough stuff or that none of the stuff was any good. It was that 1) much, not all, of the stuff was inappropriately constructed or sized, and 2) they made a lot of stuff no one wanted while not making what people did want. There was no need or ability for plant managers to make what people wanted, they made what they were told to make, and the people who told them may have been stupid, drunk or corrupt-or not;it made little difference, because the principle of a command economy just didn't work.

    Consider the Russian guitar. It was often very well made for the price-by furniture standards, that is. They used good wood and a lot of it. Too much, in fact. It had poor acoustic response because the top was way too thick. They were made by furniture makers, and they were durable and looked good, which is what furniture should do. Also, most were seven strings (the 'semistrunka') when the guitar market was in fact for six string guitars. It was priced at a few rubles when even the old Chicago made Kay and Harmony guitars were over $100 in the US.

    Ironically, some Soviet warehoused products are now in some demand in the West, certain electronic components, camera lenses, watches, gauges, etc. They made way too many of some of this stuff.

    Household goods like appliances were always in undersupply and were crude, but would run forever with a little jackleg maintenance. I'm told that Soviet era refrigerators are usually still running, they are copies of the old belt drive Norge of Lisa Loopner ( and Doolin's Troubleshooter's Bible) fame.

    After the fall of the Soviet empire, it was found that until the end, the Soviets felt their greatest intelligence failure was that they'd never found the secret organization in the US that told companies how many cars, TV sets, and rolls of toilet paper they should make. You see, there HAD to be such an office. They got plans to the atomic bomb, but never where the secret office was, and that drove them nuts.

    This is also one of my favorites.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2017/11/28/overpricing-renewable-power-is-dangerous/#29dbe53741de

    “An old Soviet-era joke goes like this: Stalin wakes up in a hospital and is informed that glorious Soviet medicine has resurrected him, and it is now 2047. “You will be pleased to hear, Comrade First Secretary, that the entire world is Communist except for New Zealand.” “Why not New Zealand?” Stalin asks. The doctor shrugs, “Someone has to tell us what prices are.””

  120. @Mr McKenna
    Somewhat related: Google employees, engineers and managers sign a petition demanding that Google stop helping the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency make migrants more comfortable--because, they say, the CBP has been making migrants uncomfortable.

    Logic like this is why they're paid the big bucks.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbp-mark-morgan-google-petition

    Google employees, engineers and managers sign a petition demanding that Google stop helping the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency make migrants more comfortable–because, they say, the CBP has been making migrants uncomfortable.

    Logic like this is why they’re paid the big bucks.

    It’s interesting because they might not lack brainpower.

    Interesting too is the question, how it comes, that we see the contradictions they are in, whereas these Google-employees rather don’t. – Is this what big money does: Destroy big brainpower?

  121. @Hopscotch
    In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas. Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900. That doesn't exactly reflect well on a century of Progressive education.

    As for the Harvard Exam, there is no excuse. In 1869, there were 200 students admitted from a small male-only applicant pool in the US. Today, the class size has grown by 10x and the theoretical applicant pool has grown by more than 40x, now including both women and global applicants.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests. But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20's, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.

    “In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas.”

    Holy missing the point. Most eighth graders in the 19th century couldn’t pass it either. You’re looking at a system that, for better or worse, that was much more comfortable booting kids out than we are.

    Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900.

    Uh, no. Schools in Ye Olden Days could boot the more difficult to educate out. Schools today can’t. If you took, say, the entirety of white kids today and the entirety of white kids back then, they’d be about equal. If anything, the kids of today would be slightly better educated, albeit at massive expense.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests.

    Oh, FFS. You can’t put 14 y/os out of school, even if you ignore things like disparate impact (which, even with decades of carping ineffectually, you simply can’t). What are they meant to do? Where are the manufacturing and farming jobs that the most put together might be able to do? Even if we go into an alternate timeline where there are any such jobs, what is that cheap labor going to do to automation and adult wages? (All this ignores the fact that schooling also keeps many of the less functional away from normal society for a few blessed hours in the week until some of them get a clue.)

    But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20’s, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.

    False dichotomy. And one that simply doesn’t apply to tens of millions of people outside the upper- and middle middle classes. People who can’t learn elementary or middle school material in our arbitrarily set timeframe aren’t the same people going to college and building up huge debt. What the former need is an education system that’s allowed to teach them what they need to know and what they are able to learn, followed by jobs and housing markets that allow them to live a prosperous adult life.

    Putting people on the left hand side of the Bell Curve out between the ages of 12 and 17 to fend for themselves on jobs that either don’t exist or are already in a race to the bottom with immigration and outsourcing won’t help anything. This isn’t the 19th century.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    My father was born in the mid 30’s in very rural Ireland. He was schooled until the age of 14 as were all of his siblings save the eldest, who won scholarships for further education. He had enough math and English to get into electronics school here in the US after his stint in the army. He became the go-to guy for solving the difficult technical/mechanical problems for all the companies he worked for.
    I’m blue collar, unlike many who post here I’d guess. My work is challenging sometimes, but very well paid. My son is currently in high school. I can state unequivocally that he has already received enough education to succeed in any blue collar job that I am familiar with as well as many of the management jobs I see done every day.
    Now, I’m not about to pull any of my kids out of school at 14, but 7/10ths of the time spent in school these days is utterly wasted and probably actively harmful.
  122. @Mr. Anon

    Push for Ethnic Studies in Schools Faces a Dilemma: Whose Stories to Tell

    By Dana Goldstein Aug. 15, 2019

    The California course materials focus on people of color, such as African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian-Americans, Arab-Americans, Central American immigrants and Pacific Islanders. …

    But after California released the draft of the materials for public comment in June, some Jewish legislators and organizations complained that anti-Semitism was not an area of emphasis, while the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement against Israel came up repeatedly.
     
    No matter whose stories are told, there is one group of whos whose stories will definitely be told, no matter what any number of whoms think.

    Hearing an adaptation of an existentialist huis-clos playing in a lightless Vergasungskeller every single year until you graduate must be tiresome.

  123. @Altai

    said Lam, who is Mayor London Breed’s education advisor and Chinese American.
     
    That's it, nothing in the written word will ever be funnier than that excerpt.

    Have some President Beluga:

  124. @Anonymous
    Right, the fundamental problem with the Soviet economy was not that there was not enough stuff or that none of the stuff was any good. It was that 1) much, not all, of the stuff was inappropriately constructed or sized, and 2) they made a lot of stuff no one wanted while not making what people did want. There was no need or ability for plant managers to make what people wanted, they made what they were told to make, and the people who told them may have been stupid, drunk or corrupt-or not;it made little difference, because the principle of a command economy just didn't work.

    Consider the Russian guitar. It was often very well made for the price-by furniture standards, that is. They used good wood and a lot of it. Too much, in fact. It had poor acoustic response because the top was way too thick. They were made by furniture makers, and they were durable and looked good, which is what furniture should do. Also, most were seven strings (the 'semistrunka') when the guitar market was in fact for six string guitars. It was priced at a few rubles when even the old Chicago made Kay and Harmony guitars were over $100 in the US.

    Ironically, some Soviet warehoused products are now in some demand in the West, certain electronic components, camera lenses, watches, gauges, etc. They made way too many of some of this stuff.

    Household goods like appliances were always in undersupply and were crude, but would run forever with a little jackleg maintenance. I'm told that Soviet era refrigerators are usually still running, they are copies of the old belt drive Norge of Lisa Loopner ( and Doolin's Troubleshooter's Bible) fame.

    After the fall of the Soviet empire, it was found that until the end, the Soviets felt their greatest intelligence failure was that they'd never found the secret organization in the US that told companies how many cars, TV sets, and rolls of toilet paper they should make. You see, there HAD to be such an office. They got plans to the atomic bomb, but never where the secret office was, and that drove them nuts.

    Belt drive compressors are inherent repairable because everything is out there in the open. A modern hermetic compressor is like a mystery box – once it gets sealed up at the factory you can never see or touch what’s inside again, so when something inside breaks all you can do is throw it out and get a new one (which rarely pays so you chuck the entire fridge instead).

    OTOH, there is a lot more to break in a belt drive compressor. The reason they went to hermetics in the first place is that the seal on the compressor shaft is always a weak point. The belt drive compressors also have remarkably sophisticated (and complex) float valves and other electromechanical controls with all sorts of little springs and bellows and needle valves, etc., all of which can break or crud up or corrode. In the analog era, engineers had to be very clever to come up with control solutions – nowadays you just put in a few sensors and write code.

    It’s really remarkable to see what sort of complex devices, calling for precision machining, etc. were being turned out 80+ years ago based on hand drawn blueprints and without a single computer. The stuff we make nowadays with powdered metal gears and stamped sheet metal, molded plastic, etc. looks like (and is) junk by comparison – no way is that stuff going to be running in 80 years and sometimes not in 8.

    There are guys that get these things running today and that’s really remarkable. Not only do you have to fix all the stuff that has dried up or corroded after 80 years but you also have to deal with the fact that modern refrigerants are quite different than sulfur dioxide and you have to adjust the control systems and lubrication to deal with this.

  125. @Alden
    There’s a big difference between the 600AD Arabs and non Jewish descendants of 5,000 AD indigenous Canaanites Philistines who are all treated like subhumans by Israel.

    Then there’s the Israeli, not immigrant Mizrahi who claim they’re treated as badly as the Christians and Muslims.

    “Then there’s the Israeli, not immigrant Mizrahi who claim they’re treated as badly as the Christians and Muslims.”

    lol no they don’t and you couldn’t pick a lot of them out of a lineup.

  126. Meanwhile across the Golden Gate, “segregation” means the evil “white” school is 41% white and the “diverse” school is 9% white.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/sausalito-school-segregation.html
    https://www.greatschools.org/california/sausalito/schools/?gradeLevels=e

  127. @Alden
    Who goes to public schools in San Francisco? Nobody but project and section 8 retards. There are actually more private high schools in San Francisco than public high schools.

    Who cares about blacks and public schools ? There’s a French term “ internal exiles.” It means that a group hated and reviled by government media academia should just step away and create their own quiet world.

    There are some high-performing public schools (most prominently, Lowell High School), thanks to the presence of a large Chinese population. Worth noting also that blacks are disappearing from SF (though not quite as thoroughly as reproducing whites are disappearing).

  128. @Colin Wright
    'In California, Jewish kids mainly attend Jewish schools from kindergarden to high school...'

    If this is so, it's a recent development. Do you have any data to support your assertion?

    In the San Francisco Bay Area you have about 70,000 Jews and about eight Jewish elementary schools (with typically 10-15 kids per grade).

    So no.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'In the San Francisco Bay Area you have about 70,000 Jews and about eight Jewish elementary schools (with typically 10-15 kids per grade).

    So no.'

    Even assuming a low (1.0 per woman) birth rate for Bay Area Jews, that would still make for about 3500 elementary school-aged Jewish children. Eight times six times 10-15 comes to between 480 and 720 Jewish children attending Jewish elementary schools -- or at most twenty percent of the population.

    That's actually more than I would have guessed -- but then, things have gone still further downhill since my day. An awful lot of the public schools are literally unusable, and it's hardly reasonable to expect Jews to be enthusiastic about Catholic schools. I suppose some private schools are disproportionately Jewish, but...

    As a wild and unscientific guess, I'd speculate that 10% of the Jewish parents with an authentic choice in the matter (i.e., they live in a district with relatively good public schools) choose to send their kids to explicitly Jewish schools instead.

    Given our general state of societal collapse, I'd say that's a perfectly reasonable choice to make.
  129. This seven member Board of Education is the same one that voted recently, 6-0 with one absentee, to paint over a depression era mural depicting the life and times of George Washington.

    What gets killed in the K-12 educational process is the desire to explore and learn. Kids are naturally curious, but usually unlearn that trait in school, even religious private schools. Intellectual curiosity is something that cannot be taught, only nourished.

  130. @notsaying
    Ethnic studies do not belong "at the heart" of any school's curriculum. This is just ridiculous.

    This is BS on a colossal scale.

    I have to think that the San Francisco school district has enormous problems that are not showing any signs of improving. I also wonder if this focus on ethnic studies has something to do with reconciling Hispanics and Blacks to some Asians' very high achievements vs. their groups. I looked it up and in 2014 only about 13% of the school students were white; 41% were Asian, 10% were Black, 27% were Hispanic, 9% were Other.

    This will be a criminal distraction of student attention from where it should be focused.

    I also think this is a criminal distraction of the public from other issues in San Francisco. I'd be interested to hear what people who know San Francisco think is really going on here.

    Are the San Francisco elites ready to just give up on helping the Black and Hispanic kids do better with their actual studies? That's what this sounds like to me.

    https://priceonomics.com/where-are-all-the-white-people-in-san-francisco/

    White people move when they have kids. There is a Bay Area joke amongst white yuppie types:

    Q: What does every kid in San Francisco get on their six birthday?

    A: A bedroom in Marin.

  131. @International Jew
    In the San Francisco Bay Area you have about 70,000 Jews and about eight Jewish elementary schools (with typically 10-15 kids per grade).

    So no.

    ‘In the San Francisco Bay Area you have about 70,000 Jews and about eight Jewish elementary schools (with typically 10-15 kids per grade).

    So no.’

    Even assuming a low (1.0 per woman) birth rate for Bay Area Jews, that would still make for about 3500 elementary school-aged Jewish children. Eight times six times 10-15 comes to between 480 and 720 Jewish children attending Jewish elementary schools — or at most twenty percent of the population.

    That’s actually more than I would have guessed — but then, things have gone still further downhill since my day. An awful lot of the public schools are literally unusable, and it’s hardly reasonable to expect Jews to be enthusiastic about Catholic schools. I suppose some private schools are disproportionately Jewish, but…

    As a wild and unscientific guess, I’d speculate that 10% of the Jewish parents with an authentic choice in the matter (i.e., they live in a district with relatively good public schools) choose to send their kids to explicitly Jewish schools instead.

    Given our general state of societal collapse, I’d say that’s a perfectly reasonable choice to make.

  132. a “humanizing” framework for teaching students based on three guiding principles: self-love and knowledge, solidarity between communities and self-determination.

    On the self-love part, didn’t Joycelyn Elders propose something along those lines?

  133. @Jesse

    "In other words, 8th graders in 2019 could not pass an 8th grade exam from 100+ years ago, where students learned in one-room school houses in places like Kentucky and Kansas."
     
    Holy missing the point. Most eighth graders in the 19th century couldn't pass it either. You're looking at a system that, for better or worse, that was much more comfortable booting kids out than we are.

    Or perhaps more charitably, an AP student today would map, intellectually, to an average student in 1900.
     
    Uh, no. Schools in Ye Olden Days could boot the more difficult to educate out. Schools today can't. If you took, say, the entirety of white kids today and the entirety of white kids back then, they'd be about equal. If anything, the kids of today would be slightly better educated, albeit at massive expense.

    In terms of the education system of 100+ years ago, it does seem harsh to tell a large number of 14 year-olds they will not be admitted to high school, or that 95%+ of the population is not intellectually-equipped for college. Obviously, not politically feasible, considering the vested interests.
     
    Oh, FFS. You can't put 14 y/os out of school, even if you ignore things like disparate impact (which, even with decades of carping ineffectually, you simply can't). What are they meant to do? Where are the manufacturing and farming jobs that the most put together might be able to do? Even if we go into an alternate timeline where there are any such jobs, what is that cheap labor going to do to automation and adult wages? (All this ignores the fact that schooling also keeps many of the less functional away from normal society for a few blessed hours in the week until some of them get a clue.)

    But their system was preferable to our modern system, where 18 year-olds are humored and encouraged to take out $50k in non-dischargeable debt, and allowed to procrastinate on acquiring life skills until their mid-20’s, as opposed to their late teens. The pre-Progressive system was elitist and harsh. Our system is equally elitist but much more economically predatory.
     
    False dichotomy. And one that simply doesn't apply to tens of millions of people outside the upper- and middle middle classes. People who can't learn elementary or middle school material in our arbitrarily set timeframe aren't the same people going to college and building up huge debt. What the former need is an education system that's allowed to teach them what they need to know and what they are able to learn, followed by jobs and housing markets that allow them to live a prosperous adult life.

    Putting people on the left hand side of the Bell Curve out between the ages of 12 and 17 to fend for themselves on jobs that either don't exist or are already in a race to the bottom with immigration and outsourcing won't help anything. This isn't the 19th century.

    My father was born in the mid 30’s in very rural Ireland. He was schooled until the age of 14 as were all of his siblings save the eldest, who won scholarships for further education. He had enough math and English to get into electronics school here in the US after his stint in the army. He became the go-to guy for solving the difficult technical/mechanical problems for all the companies he worked for.
    I’m blue collar, unlike many who post here I’d guess. My work is challenging sometimes, but very well paid. My son is currently in high school. I can state unequivocally that he has already received enough education to succeed in any blue collar job that I am familiar with as well as many of the management jobs I see done every day.
    Now, I’m not about to pull any of my kids out of school at 14, but 7/10ths of the time spent in school these days is utterly wasted and probably actively harmful.

  134. @Paul
    Will Israel's treatment of the indignenous Palestinian people be taught? And China's treatment of the Uyghur people? And the slaughter by African tribes of each other? And on and on? Or can we expect instead the usual liberal hypocrisy in which certain matters are avoided?

    You can believe this or not but if it’s understanding you’re seeking, I can give you the background where all this multiculturalism and hatred of the white race began. If you are willing to read the first 6 chapters of Genesis, with my explanation here, you will see that it’s been an ongoing struggle for millennia. Genesis 1 creation of man (aw-dawm or adam in Hebrew) was a first creation of white man. This creation (the 6th day creation) ended up mingling with the “beast of the field” as God called the other species of manlike bipeds which is how you got the serpent in the garden. The serpent is a proto-jew and an ancestor. Because there was a conflagration, you can see in chapter 2 after the 7th day was declared, God has to restore part of the earth, foliage, animals and He had to make a white man and woman. Today’s white man is a 7th day creation, not 6th day as are all others including Jews. Genesis 1 creation was likely more than one each as the language seems to convey. To make a long story short, the serpent immediately tried to destroy the new white creation as well. The proto-jew serpent and today’s serpents are an asiatic people descended through Cain, Esau, and even the patriarch Judah who married into this mingled people. White man is God’s chosen people not the mingled jews who usurped this title after 70AD when all the white Israelites left Judea before Roman invasion. Israelites became Christian in name and over a couple of generations forgot who they were. Getting back to Noah. Noah found favor because he hadn’t race mixed and his seed was pure. God destroyed all the white men who race mixed in Genesis 6. God created white man to rule the earth with Him but the asiatic mongol race was not happy with that idea. God’s law of kind after kind will again be honored. Jesus said in Matthew 15:13 that He was going to uproot all that His Father did not plant which means all race mixed people who are not created by God but through man’s disobedience. The other races hate white man for his favor but we are currently out of favor with God for forsaking His laws which are still in force. The word Israel means man ruling with God, ish-ra-el. God would be violating His own law by choosing a mingled people as His own. They are the descendants of the Canaanites who were already mingled with this first white/serpent mixed creation through Cain, who went to these people after getting thrown out of the garden for killing his brother. Multiculturalism is a most grievous lie in which you lose your gift of eternal life at the resurrection of the white race after the upcoming destruction of this age.

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