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From my new book review in Taki’s Magazine:

Arguing Against Reality
by Steve Sailer

June 05, 2019

The term “Gell-Man Amnesia effect” was coined by the late novelist Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park) in honor of the famous physicist who died last month. Murray Gell-Man had pointed out to Crichton that he had noticed that journalists aren’t very accurate at writing about his own specialty, physics, nor about Crichton’s, showbiz, so why do we trust them to write reliably about everything else?

I was reminded of the Gell-Man effect when reading British journalist Angela Saini’s much celebrated new book, Superior: The Return of Race Science.

In Saini’s sprawling conspiracy theory about the malign forces that inspire evil scientists to keep on noticing differences between human groups despite seventy years of politically correct censorship, I am cast as a villain, along with, among others, polymath Francis Galton, psychometrician Arthur Jensen, geneticist James D. Watson, rock singer Morrissey, Harvard geneticist David Reich, and even Albert Einstein. (That lineup makes me feel like the batboy on the 1927 Yankees: honored just to be on the same field.)

Saini gets her story about me so wrong that’s it’s hard to have much confidence in the rest of her book.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. I hate and usually forget the term “Gell-Man Effect” right after I’ve searched for it and used it in a discussion. It’s incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    I’m surprised Crichton, a wordsmith, promoted it, but then again, he was an author used to having a full-length novel to explore his ideas, not an ad man or meme creator or comedian searching for a quick zinger to sear into your brain.

    “Newspaper Amnesia” is much more memorable and easier to get intuitively, so its what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering. I’m sure Trump could create and nail a better version, if so required.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Amnewsia?
    , @Almost Missouri
    I also wonder if it is really correct to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are) with the insight about journalism. I seem to recall writers from at least as far back as the 1920s making essentially the identical argument.

    Noticing that most journalism is fraud that most of the audience willingly accept is not new.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    I hate and usually forget the term “Gell-Man Effect” right after I’ve searched for it and used it in a discussion. It’s incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.
     
    Don't worry, as long as you read this blog you'll never get away from the "Jack D Effect." His posts are are a constant momento Gell-Mani, at least to the extent that they'll send you groping around for "that word for somebody who seems like they know a lot, until they write about something I know."
    , @jon

    I hate and usually forget the term “Gell-Man Effect” right after I’ve searched for it and used it in a discussion. It’s incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.
     

    what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering
     
    So do you find Sapir-Whorf to be a memorable, tidy, exciting, and catchy?
  2. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:

    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    The white supremacism inherent in this nutritional act would be poisonous.

    Saini, a pleasant-looking lady who is part of a London media “power couple” with her BBC editor husband Mukul Devichand, is a true believer in today’s low-to-middlebrow dogma that race-does-not-exist.
     
    Expecting valuable insights from random outer party members.

    "Switch on the conapt jumbotron, honey!"
    "But it's always switched on."
    "Well, switch it on EVEN MORE!"

    , @Edward
    She’s North-West Indian, isn’t she? Most Northwestern Indians aren’t lactose intolerant.
    , @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    , @Anonymous
    Not a very well thought out thought; Punjabis gulp dairy by the gallon and are famed for it
    , @Jack D
    Yeah, what do Indians know about cows? Most Indians have probably never even seen a cow.
  3. Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, “They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.”

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Ha ha sounds like the ending of a romance novel.
    "I,a respected mainstream geneticist,...don't love you anymore!"
    , @Jim Christian

    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, “They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.”
     
    That's the wrap-up on Steve's piece at Taki's. Perfect ending. Pretty much says it all. She didn't expect truth-telling. All this is the product of women in the sciences. Capitol Hill of today is the product of women in politics. And don't EVEN get me started on the workforce. In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz 'authority' of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.
    , @bjdubbs
    That's how every Taki article ends, right in the
    , @Federalist
    Ending posts abruptly is a Steve Sailer trademark.
    , @Olorin
    You missed the most essential point!

    We all know that "science" consists of words both expected and welcomed by Punjabi Pundit Princesses.
    , @Ragno
    No problems on this end: perfect ending if you ask me.
    , @Henry's Cat
    Steve had another thousand words at least in the pipeline, but then he looked again at the fee and so pulled the plug.
  4. @Anonymous
    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is 'only' a few thousand years old.

    The white supremacism inherent in this nutritional act would be poisonous.

    Saini, a pleasant-looking lady who is part of a London media “power couple” with her BBC editor husband Mukul Devichand, is a true believer in today’s low-to-middlebrow dogma that race-does-not-exist.

    Expecting valuable insights from random outer party members.

    “Switch on the conapt jumbotron, honey!”
    “But it’s always switched on.”
    “Well, switch it on EVEN MORE!”

  5. I liked your review but I thought it ended too soon.

  6. “… journalists aren’t very accurate at writing about his own specialty, physics, nor about Crichton’s, showbiz, so why do we trust them to write reliably about everything else?”

    I, for one don’t … journalists are by and large the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  7. @Anonymous
    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is 'only' a few thousand years old.

    She’s North-West Indian, isn’t she? Most Northwestern Indians aren’t lactose intolerant.

    • Replies: @bored identity
    Lactose Intolerance is social construct.

    Let's ask Saini's compatriots what they think about even possibility of The Texas Roadhouse expansion on any given Mumbai Jumbai's market:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/25/article-1187119-0515203B000005DC-705_634x357.jpg
  8. I’d pay to see a baseball game (or in fact any sort of competition) with a team like that. Together they’d have the sense to propose that we stop wrecking this nation, and with Einstein on the team they could even travel back in time, say 50 or 60 years, and prevent its happening in the first place.

    • Replies: @jon

    I’d pay to see a baseball game (or in fact any sort of competition) with a team like that.
     
    How about famous philosophers playing soccer:
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=7E_8EjoxY7Q
  9. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    Speaking of low-brow journalism, Jorge Ramos’s daughter is looking to follow in Dad’s footsteps and recently made a short video piece for Vice on how the Meth epidemic is affecting Latinx’s in Fresno.

    However, she was so transparent and clumsy in pushing the whole Hispanic aspect of her story that she is getting roasted in the youtube comments.

    I guess the media has learned that you’ve got to really spell it out for Hispanics: continually remind them they are Hispanic and that they ought to be mad!

    • Replies: @Federalist
    Was she undercover as a meth head?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    A166, there is a group of writers who explore the effects of something vile on just their chosen few. Whites and opioid deaths, black women and problem pregnancies, meth and hispanics. The last two I listed are big time problems that need to be addressed ASAP. The first one, hey what's not to like about thinning the white herd.
  10. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    Ha ha sounds like the ending of a romance novel.
    “I,a respected mainstream geneticist,…don’t love you anymore!”

  11. Wow, Steve, it only took you twenty years to get mentioned repeatedly in a mainstream “idea” book, albeit one published in the UK. You would think TPTB would have actually published one of your books first before allowing one of their members to critique your work, how could the mainstream reading public even know anything about you and your heretical ideas otherwise? You pretty much had to self publish your Obama bio, the public might actually have to read your blog or Twitter account now. This tactic might actually blow up in their face and have the opposite effect of what was intended, since no one in the elite actually will admit to reading anything you’ve wrote until now.

    An interesting aside, I know you championed a lot of work by Vincent Sarich earlier in your blogging and that he was the bane of leftist anthropologists everywhere, especially at Cal-Berkeley where he worked, but Sarich actually published scientific papers with Jonathan Marks. I’m guessing that would have been an interesting scientific partnership, since Marks is as you said is a hard doctrinaire leftist.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Vincent Sarich was at UCB when I was there. He got quoted in the Daily Cal (the campus free commie rag) at a debate about the genetic roots of homosexuality. "How could there be a gene for homosexuality? How the hell would it perpetuate itself?" It generated plenty of discussion, I'll tell you. No way would any such commie rag publish that quote today.
    , @guest
    They don't want anyone to know about Steve's ideas. Not in their raw, uncut form anyway. The fact that John Q. Public has not read a Steve Sailer book means it's all the easier to use him for their purposes. Not that they could use nothing but humble HBD bloggists, but it's handy to have a crowd of badthinkers big and small to scorn.

    By the way, the story of why race science paused itself--or was forcibly paused from outside--is infinitely more interesting than the story of its reemergence (if that's what's happening). Which was inevitable unless we were prepared to go full Soviet on genetic research and artificial intelligence. Where are the pop-history books on that subject, huh? Huh?
  12. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, “They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.”

    That’s the wrap-up on Steve’s piece at Taki’s. Perfect ending. Pretty much says it all. She didn’t expect truth-telling. All this is the product of women in the sciences. Capitol Hill of today is the product of women in politics. And don’t EVEN get me started on the workforce. In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz ‘authority’ of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.

    • Agree: BB753, Autochthon
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz ‘authority’ of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.
     
    Wait. You mean having 3 or 4 cupcakes in supply chain meetings nattering on about their purse dog, weekend BBQ, or dropping junior on his head is inefficient?

    Mind. Blown.
    , @ThreeCranes
    The problem is women's tendency to adopt all strays. And that includes cuddly 230 lb. black fullbacks.

    White women snarl about "deadbeat dad's" when referring to white men but are a lot more tolerant when commenting about how the absence of black men makes the black family so dysfunctional. It is, after all, white men's fault that black men abandon their kids.

    Black boys suffer from the absence of a father in the home. They don't develop a trusting relationship with male authority. In steps the liberal white woman to fill the breach with money, diapers, tutoring, teaching job search skills for the single black mom and her brood.

    The folly of liberal white woman lies in believing that they can replace what only a black father could give to his sons.
  13. I am cast as a villain, …

    Woo – hoo! Then, I see you appear in Mrs. Saini’s “much celebrated” new book, right near the beginning. Seriously, this is a good thing, Steve, as this is some good publicity for you.

    The Gell-Mannesia effect is assumed to be a benign thing, just the normal stupidity out of the media, right? From your story, and what I’ve seen, nowadays it’s not always the stupidity or bad memories of these “journalists” that is really behind the errors that we all see in areas that we know lots about (for you, it’s your personal history AND you have records).

    Perhaps in many cases, especially with the Lyin’ Press being an arm of the ctrl-left now, these media people COUNT ON their readers/viewers having amnesia themselves. People do have short memories regarding politics, while they can still, ahem, remember who got the Heisman trophy in 1983. Steve, you were able to root out the lies out of this author due to your good long-term memory on lots of stuff, along with the records you were able to dig up.

    When’s the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden’s complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990’s was mentioned. I don’t remember the details (you can see that!), but I remember it happened. 99.x percent of Americans don’t. (x is probably 5 to 8.) The ctrl-left can get away with a lot of lies because of the terrible short-term memories of Americans regarding politics and history.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    A lot of it is genuine stupidity, as leftist Glenn Greenwald points out about his liberal colleagues.

    Mendacity, cowardice, ideology--sure. But they couldn't be good at their jobs if they tried (which they mostly don't).

    I remember the dumbfounded look on the face of a BBC reporter who asked Noam Chomsky if he believed he was told what to think. No, Chomsky replied: you just have your job because you don't need to be told.

    , @ChrisZ
    “It’s always Day One with these people.”

    Achmed, that’s my favorite phrase to describe the propensity of the Left (and, to be honest, a lot of people) to “forget” even the recent past, and argue as if their idiotic theories have never been discussed and falsified before. I first encountered the phrase on this blog, in a comment by the formidable Zman.
    , @Jim Don Bob

    When’s the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden’s complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990’s was mentioned.
     
    Joe's new Green Deal proposal ripped off big portions of AOC's word for word. I guess his staff is as dumb as he is.
  14. The people who don’t believe in racial differences sure seem to avoid living in areas where ther are a lot of Sub-Sharan Africans.

  15. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I am cast as a villain, ...
     
    Woo - hoo! Then, I see you appear in Mrs. Saini's "much celebrated" new book, right near the beginning. Seriously, this is a good thing, Steve, as this is some good publicity for you.

    The Gell-Mannesia effect is assumed to be a benign thing, just the normal stupidity out of the media, right? From your story, and what I've seen, nowadays it's not always the stupidity or bad memories of these "journalists" that is really behind the errors that we all see in areas that we know lots about (for you, it's your personal history AND you have records).

    Perhaps in many cases, especially with the Lyin' Press being an arm of the ctrl-left now, these media people COUNT ON their readers/viewers having amnesia themselves. People do have short memories regarding politics, while they can still, ahem, remember who got the Heisman trophy in 1983. Steve, you were able to root out the lies out of this author due to your good long-term memory on lots of stuff, along with the records you were able to dig up.

    When's the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden's complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990's was mentioned. I don't remember the details (you can see that!), but I remember it happened. 99.x percent of Americans don't. (x is probably 5 to 8.) The ctrl-left can get away with a lot of lies because of the terrible short-term memories of Americans regarding politics and history.

    A lot of it is genuine stupidity, as leftist Glenn Greenwald points out about his liberal colleagues.

    Mendacity, cowardice, ideology–sure. But they couldn’t be good at their jobs if they tried (which they mostly don’t).

    I remember the dumbfounded look on the face of a BBC reporter who asked Noam Chomsky if he believed he was told what to think. No, Chomsky replied: you just have your job because you don’t need to be told.

  16. Well, my knowledge of race and intelligence is street-level quality only.

    Doesn’t a lot of the talk about race and intelligence amount to, for want of better terms, “the Auschwitz fallacy” and “the Plantation fallacy”? By that I mean that any talk of and inquiry into race and intelligence that falls outside politically prescribed norms is regarded as presumptively motivated by ill will and, should that talk become commonplace, inevitably results in punitive segregation and worse.

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    All very true. I'd add that it's the generations too young to have actually experienced WW2 who are the worst for using it as a stick to beat their political opponents. People whose families were safely on another continent when Hitler was doing his thing are usually even more shameless.
    , @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    , @ChrisZ
    This is a very interesting idea, JackOH. It would suggest that in some sense these ideas may be intellectual/political fashions, which would be revised, perhaps relativized, in the future.

    We've seen something similar happen with all the assumptions we took for granted during the Cold War. Back then, the Left-Right, Captive-Free polarities seemed to clearly govern every national question. The world of parochial national interests and identities--i.e., the order prior to the First World War--seemed so distant and irrelevant. But we've seen the latter reassert themeselves in the generation after the Cold War, while the once-dominant Left-Right axis fades by the day.
    , @Jack D

    "anti-Auschwitz”
     
    So are you saying that your are PRO- Auschwitz?

    The problem is not in being anti-Auschwitz. (Hopefully) every sane person is anti-Auschwitz. The problem is in the slippery slope argument, where if I disrespect you by forgetting to put the vanilla syrup in your latte, I have stepped onto the slippery slope that ends at the gates of Auschwitz.
  17. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is 'only' a few thousand years old.

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.


    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    The Attack of the Subcontinent Anoraks commences.
    , @Clyde
    Same old story. She is from India, highly educated, so has a multicultural ax to grind. The outcome of her book was pre-determined. She just had to find real and fake facts to shoe horn into it.
    , @jim jones
    All the Asians I know eat lots of cheese, ice cream and milk. I wonder if lactose intolerance is just an urban myth.
    , @nebulafox
    You could do way worse than Sikhs.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    I feel like dear old Ange wouldn't have any time to write an entire book full of this drivel if her hubs was meeting her needs at home.
  18. Anonymous[730] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is 'only' a few thousand years old.

    Not a very well thought out thought; Punjabis gulp dairy by the gallon and are famed for it

    • Replies: @indocon
    Right on, having grown up there I can absolutely attest to that, unpasteurized buffalo milk is the preferred one. What amazes me is the knowledge base of Steve Sailor fans, an obscure of a topic like "do Punjabis like dairy" gets an instant answer here.
    , @StripsOfRed
    They ain't eatin' them cheeseburgers for sure. But you ask for one in Uttar Pradesh and they'll make sure you become an ingredient pretty fast

  19. Saini gets her story about me so wrong that’s it’s hard to have much confidence in the rest of her book.

    Well good for you and congrats. There is no such thing as bad publicity.

  20. • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    It's ironic the Guardian chose a photo of Polish nationalists to illustrate the menace of race science. European ethno-nationalists are the ones least likely to be fixated on race. It's the Guardian types (neoliberal globalists) and the much smaller HBD/IQ gang who see race as central to their thinking.

    They both want to make the American model work but can't agree on race. The Guardian types believe it's necessary to lie about racial differences in order to make the American "nation of immigrants" model work, while the HBD'ers believe it's necessary to tell the truth. Basically it's a split between degenerated technocrats and technocratic purists.
  21. @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    The Attack of the Subcontinent Anoraks commences.

  22. Just for a laugh I will go out and purchase and try to read this book. Perhaps it is the last hurrah for the thoroughly-debunked blank slate ideology in science. In the sixteenth and seventeenth century, when European naval technology allowed more and more ocean voyages around the world, did flat-earthers write books arguing that the earth was actually flat and all this accumulating evidence was wrong? This book is the 21st century equivalent of the flat-earth movement.

  23. @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    Same old story. She is from India, highly educated, so has a multicultural ax to grind. The outcome of her book was pre-determined. She just had to find real and fake facts to shoe horn into it.

  24. I read your review, Mr iSteve. I congratulate you on the courteous and considered way that you reveal that the lass is rather dim.

  25. Regarding sprinting, my favorite story is that the fastest white guy EVER chose to skip the 100 meter sprint at the 2012 Olympics because he knew he wouldn’t be competitive. (He did make the 200 meter final, which is impressive.) But race still isn’t real.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Lemaitre

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
    ...and he also doesn't hold the french national record for the 100meters. It's held by, GET THIS, a black guy!
  26. Saini gets her story about me so wrong that’s it’s hard to have much confidence in the rest of her book.

    You didn’t say in the article what she got wrong about you, just that she’d been a conduit for Dr. Marks’ posturing.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    She got her story wrong by not interviewing Steve, who would have kindly corrected her about Dr. Marks’s characterization of his and Steve’s correspondence should she have asked. Journalism 101 for a book of supposed non-fiction.
  27. @R.G. Camara
    I hate and usually forget the term "Gell-Man Effect" right after I've searched for it and used it in a discussion. It's incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    I'm surprised Crichton, a wordsmith, promoted it, but then again, he was an author used to having a full-length novel to explore his ideas, not an ad man or meme creator or comedian searching for a quick zinger to sear into your brain.

    "Newspaper Amnesia" is much more memorable and easier to get intuitively, so its what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering. I'm sure Trump could create and nail a better version, if so required.

    Amnewsia?

    • Agree: jon
  28. (That lineup makes me feel like the batboy on the 1927 Yankees: honored just to be on the same field.)

    Not the batboy, but somebody who knows all the players.

    If we laymen reading on the periphery matter at all, you are performing an important job by observing all the plays and reporting them to us.

    Ah, you are the announcer — in California.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Not the batboy, but somebody who knows all the players.
    If we laymen reading on the periphery matter at all, you are performing an important job by observing all the plays and reporting them to us.
    Ah, you are the announcer — in California.
     
    Agree with the sentiment. Steve isn't a batboy, but he's not just Vin Scully either.

    He's been critical in confronting the stupidity of the reigning ideology, calling out it's contradictions, encouraging clear thought and spreading "the emperor has no clothes" word.

    There is no ready sports--or at least baseball--analogy. Not just announcer, but analyst and coach as well. Steve is huge in getting the West back on side.
  29. She looks like a dusky Caucasian. Maybe we should keep women in the kitchen making sandwiches. They make horrible authors.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "Maybe we should keep women in the kitchen making sandwiches. They make horrible authors."

    Some women make horrible sandwiches. And some women make excellent authors--of fiction.
    , @snorlax

    She looks like a dusky Caucasian.
     
    Well, she's a Caucasoid, so by definition she looks like a dusky Caucasian.
  30. @Edward
    She’s North-West Indian, isn’t she? Most Northwestern Indians aren’t lactose intolerant.

    Lactose Intolerance is social construct.

    Let’s ask Saini’s compatriots what they think about even possibility of The Texas Roadhouse expansion on any given Mumbai Jumbai’s market:

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  31. @Jim Christian

    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, “They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.”
     
    That's the wrap-up on Steve's piece at Taki's. Perfect ending. Pretty much says it all. She didn't expect truth-telling. All this is the product of women in the sciences. Capitol Hill of today is the product of women in politics. And don't EVEN get me started on the workforce. In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz 'authority' of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.

    In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz ‘authority’ of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.

    Wait. You mean having 3 or 4 cupcakes in supply chain meetings nattering on about their purse dog, weekend BBQ, or dropping junior on his head is inefficient?

    Mind. Blown.

  32. OT – About 5 years ago the words jingoism, jingoistic, etc came into vogue for a brief moment. Seemingly out of nowhere I read it in a number of pieces and repeatedly heard it in various interviews. Then, as abruptly as the usage started, it stopped. I then noticed the increased usage of nationalist, white nationalist, etc. Of course jingoism and nationalism are synonyms – perhaps jingoism, a rather odd sounding and obscure word, didn’t sound as menacing or have the desired affect. Interesting to see if the rise in usage of jingoism coincided with current atmosphere of wokeness and then dropped off when they figured out no one knew what the hell it meant.

    Additionally – it appears as if twitter is discouraging certain folks from getting on the platform. I don’t twitter but signed up to reply to a Sailer tweet. When I @ him, twitter sent notification that I violated terms and in order to get back on I would have to go through google and agree to allow google to track me (obviously didn’t do this). I then did the same with other conservative writers and the got the same result. Not surprisingly, I tried the same with liberal writers and voila – no violation of the terms of service.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Could anybody set up a way to document how the Tech Monopolies slow-walk people they don't like?
  33. @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    All the Asians I know eat lots of cheese, ice cream and milk. I wonder if lactose intolerance is just an urban myth.

    • Replies: @Travis
    Cheese and cream and butter have very little lactose, just trace amounts.Butter and many cheeses contain zero grams of carbohydrate, which means they contain zero grams of sugar. And zero sugar means zero lactose.

    my grandmother was lactose intolerant, but she had no problems eating cheese, cream and yogurt. Only issue was drinking a glass of milk, especially the low fat milk. Skim milk has 50% more lactose than whole milk. A cup of whole milk has 50% more lactose than a cup of ice-cream...The more cream they use in the ice cream the less lactose.

    One reason more people today have issues with dairy they consume more of the low fat dairy products which are much higher in lactose. The High fat dairy have much less lactose.
  34. HBD catnip:

    Becky with the good hair complaining about overtourism:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/crowds-tourists-are-ruining-popular-destinations/

    Not sure how this fits in with Sailer’s First Law of Female journalism…

  35. The two experts clearly disagreed. But rather than help reach a consensus, “Steve Sailer clearly took his side,” he tells me. “At which point I realized, ‘Ah! This isn’t an impartial scholarly discussion.’”

    Jonathan Marks’s opinion = “impartiality”

    Disagreeing with Jonathan Marks’s opinion = “not impartiality”

    Jonathan Marks is a Leftist: confirmed.

  36. First Saini Desiscribes Who Took Control Over Modern Science:

    “How Indian Science is Taking Over the World ”

    https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/books/Geek-Nation-How-Indian-Science-Is-Taking-Over-the-World/articleshow/16120081.cms

    Then Saini Desiscribes:

    “How Modern Science Failed Women.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/darwin-damore-how-modern-science-failed-women-ncna801586

    So, who-whom do we blame for that?

  37. And comment here. That had to be a hit to the readership when they dropped the comments.

    • Replies: @jon
    Yeah, I think there their idea of limiting the comments to paid subscribers has backfired. Rather than nudge me to sign up, it just caused me to stop reading the site unless iSteve (or some other site) links to a specific story over there.
  38. @R.G. Camara
    I hate and usually forget the term "Gell-Man Effect" right after I've searched for it and used it in a discussion. It's incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    I'm surprised Crichton, a wordsmith, promoted it, but then again, he was an author used to having a full-length novel to explore his ideas, not an ad man or meme creator or comedian searching for a quick zinger to sear into your brain.

    "Newspaper Amnesia" is much more memorable and easier to get intuitively, so its what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering. I'm sure Trump could create and nail a better version, if so required.

    I also wonder if it is really correct to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are) with the insight about journalism. I seem to recall writers from at least as far back as the 1920s making essentially the identical argument.

    Noticing that most journalism is fraud that most of the audience willingly accept is not new.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Murray Gell-Mann is one guy. Nobody ever put a title to it before. Crichton was rather humble in not calling it the "Crichton Effect" -- I believe he once said he realized that attaching the effect to a respected scientist's name would give his observation the veneer of scientific respectability.
    , @MEH 0910

    to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are)
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZmiYF5tLzQ

    I am Clin-ton.
     
    , @snorlax
    Just one guy, Murray Gell-Mann, who was[1] a Nobel-winning physicist. Crichton was an outspoken global warming skeptic and probably named it after Gell-Mann to lend it scientific gravitas.

    You're correct that similar arguments have been made in the past, such as in socialist Walter Lippmann's 1922 Public Opinion,[2] which is probably what you were thinking of, and by conservatives such as Reed Irvine and Robert Conquest, whose 1969 Law of Politics[3] stated "everyone is a reactionary about subjects he understands."

    [1] He died the Sunday before last, outlasting his 13 years younger friend Crichton by more than a decade.
    [2] Which on the flip side was a major influence on Critical Theory aka SJWism.
    [3] There was only one; Derbyshire's 2003 column misattributed the other two.
  39. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:

    it is difficult to understand the leftists logic. They embrace “diversity” and claim diversity is our strength yet then attack anyone for noticing human diversity. They praise diversity yet claim we are all the same and human diversity does not exist. We are stronger because of our differences, yet we have no meaningful differences and any perceived differences are actually the result of racism.

    each year we discover more evidence that there are significant differences between Caucasoids , Negroids and Mongoloid. Not only were caucasians separated from Negroids for 80,000 years, Caucasians are a hybrid species the result of inter-species mating between early humans and the Neanderthals who had dominated Europe for 450,000 years before modern humans arrived. Thus the Caucasian ties to Europe extend much further back than the commonly stated 50,000 years. Our European Neanderthal ancestors were living in Europe 500,000 years ago. While the negroid population has no admixture from neanderthals they are a hybrid of another archaic hominoid species. Thus explaining why our difference are not explained by the 80,000 years of geographic separation, the differences were compounded via breeding with other hominoid species.

    Interesting that scientists were allowed to write articles about inter-species mating of neanderthals and early humans, and even major media outlets reported on these discoveries, that Caucasians get 3% of their DNA from another species…while at the same time stating race does not exist they acknowledge that the white race is hybrid species, not purely Homo sapiens. Was this allowed because it seemed to denigrate the white race as a mongrel race , descendant of primitive cavemen ?

    But now they discover that Negroids are not pure Homo Sapiens, but a hybrid with another archaic hominoid species. It is surprising that such discoveries were allowed to get published in this era, when “race” does not exist and pointing out differences between races is forbidden in the media. It certainly seems to be significant that 9% of Negroid DNA is from another species.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Race does not exist unless this concept is used to prove that race does not exist. Simple.
  40. @Anonymous
    Just a thought:

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is 'only' a few thousand years old.

    Yeah, what do Indians know about cows? Most Indians have probably never even seen a cow.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  41. @JackOH
    Well, my knowledge of race and intelligence is street-level quality only.

    Doesn't a lot of the talk about race and intelligence amount to, for want of better terms, "the Auschwitz fallacy" and "the Plantation fallacy"? By that I mean that any talk of and inquiry into race and intelligence that falls outside politically prescribed norms is regarded as presumptively motivated by ill will and, should that talk become commonplace, inevitably results in punitive segregation and worse.

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as "anti-Auschwitz" and "anti-Plantation"? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be "un-Hitler" and "un-Confederacy".

    All very true. I’d add that it’s the generations too young to have actually experienced WW2 who are the worst for using it as a stick to beat their political opponents. People whose families were safely on another continent when Hitler was doing his thing are usually even more shameless.

  42. Two ‘n’s in Gell-Mann.

  43. @Almost Missouri
    I also wonder if it is really correct to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are) with the insight about journalism. I seem to recall writers from at least as far back as the 1920s making essentially the identical argument.

    Noticing that most journalism is fraud that most of the audience willingly accept is not new.

    Murray Gell-Mann is one guy. Nobody ever put a title to it before. Crichton was rather humble in not calling it the “Crichton Effect” — I believe he once said he realized that attaching the effect to a respected scientist’s name would give his observation the veneer of scientific respectability.

  44. @Art Deco
    Saini gets her story about me so wrong that’s it’s hard to have much confidence in the rest of her book.

    You didn't say in the article what she got wrong about you, just that she'd been a conduit for Dr. Marks' posturing.

    She got her story wrong by not interviewing Steve, who would have kindly corrected her about Dr. Marks’s characterization of his and Steve’s correspondence should she have asked. Journalism 101 for a book of supposed non-fiction.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yes, good journalistic practice would be to ask Steve for a comment or interview, as well as to interview more members of the email list.
  45. My understanding is that British libel law places the burden of proof on the defendant, even if it is claimed that those libeled are “public figures”. This isn’t to say Sailer has standing to be a plaintiff under British libel laws or even if he did that anything resembling a true judiciary remains in GB…

    • Replies: @dearieme
    English libel law. So if you want to defame someone do it in Scotland.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    James, I think the novel "QB VII", which was excellent, dealt with British libel laws.
  46. Scott MacEachern is another leftist who has written that he was in the HBD email group. Like Marks, he was shocked, shocked at the crimethink there.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/smaceachern2/status/1130078041152131072

    Scott MacEachern
    @smaceachern2
    ·
    May 19
    Replying to
    @smaceachern2
    and
    @charlesmurray
    Now, I know that you actually did have doubts about their IQ estimates of Africans, thinking them too low – because you said so on Steve Sailer’s sooper-dooper secret h-bd listserv. But you’ve never found it really politic to repeat that in public, have you?
    2
    2
    3

    Aaron Gross
    @Rongwrong_
    ·
    May 19
    Wait, have the HBD list emails been leaked?
    1

    Scott MacEachern
    @smaceachern2
    ·
    May 20
    Nah, I was on the list at the time. Sailer thought there needed to be one liberal punching bag on that list, so he added me without my knowing and then – when I proved to be unexpectedly obstreperous – removed me in the same way.

    Scott MacEachern
    @smaceachern2
    ·
    May 20
    I’ve had a couple of cases of sanctimonious ‘Gentlemen don’t tell secrets’ since then, but since I agreed to neither my membership on nor my removal from the list, I don’t pay them much mind.

  47. @Almost Missouri
    I also wonder if it is really correct to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are) with the insight about journalism. I seem to recall writers from at least as far back as the 1920s making essentially the identical argument.

    Noticing that most journalism is fraud that most of the audience willingly accept is not new.

    to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are)

    I am Clin-ton.

  48. Steve, I don’t see any mention in your article that Saini ever called you or spoke to you about the email list or the supposed business with Marks. Is that the case?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Saini wrote to me and I replied several times. Much of this column is lifted from my replies to her. Here's the longest one:

    On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:12 PM Steve Sailer wrote:
    Dear Ms. Saini:

    Thank you for writing.

    Are you interested in engaging with the scientific issues, or is this book to be more of a tell-all? I ask because I don’t see myself quoted anywhere in the excerpt below, even though I’ve probably published 7-figures worth of words over the decades. If you wish to quote my writings so you can offer arguments against them, I’d be happy to respond to your counter-arguments.

    On the other hand, what I see below seems more like a conspiracy theory than debate, and it’s notoriously hard to dissuade conspiracy theorists.

    As for what you’ve written:

    Like the CIA, I can neither confirm nor deny the membership of any individuals in any email group I’ve ever organized without their personal consent.

    https://twitter.com/cia/status/474971393852182528?lang=en

    It would be in bad taste to disclose who joined a private email group I organized in the precious century.

    Second, I am sorry to hear that Dr. Marks, whose brainpower and intensity of personality I admire, is still feeling aggrieved over the course of debates he recalls participating in as long ago as 1999. (I presume from what I read below that Dr. Marks has consented to my confirming that he volunteered to join my Human Biodiversity email group almost 20 years ago.)

    Third, the notion in your excerpts that Dr. Marks, like Captain Renault in Casablanca discovering that gambling was going on in Rick’s,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

    was shocked, shocked to discover that the discussing of race was going on in a Human Biodiversity email group is amusing.

    I don’t believe Dr. Marks’ recollections accord with my recollections of the timeline of our interactions.

    Dr. Marks implies that he didn’t become aware of the shocking fact that he and I don’t agree all that much on important empirical and epistemological questions until after he’d joined my seemingly “harmless” email group.

    But my recollection is that the two of us had corresponded for some time before I started the group. In fact, my memory is that he and I had previously reached an agreement to try to get jointly commissioned by a major magazine to debate the reality of race. As I blogged in 2010:

    Back around 1996 or 1997 or so, I came up with the term "human biodiversity" to describe my chief intellectual interest. I modeled the term on Edward O. Wilson's coinage "biodiversity." I then looked to see in the first web search engine, Alta Vista, if the term had ever been used before. I quickly found Marks's 1995 book Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race, and History, with its cover of DNA and Carl Linnaeus, the father of modern taxonomy. I quickly bought it and read it and then exchanged several emails with Marks over it. At one point, he and I agreed to approach magazines to see if they would like to publish a debate between Marks and myself over the reality of race, although enthusiasm on the part of editors turned out to [be] mild, to say the least.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-person-hates-nicholas-wade.html

    It’s possible I could be wrong about at what point in time Dr. Marks and I agreed to try to debate together in a leading magazine — I don’t have access to my emails from the previous millenium— and that it was not until after we were in the email group together. But in any case he and I corresponded before my founding of the email group in 1999 and should have been aware of each other’s views.

    For example, I had published a number of major articles before 1999, which I was happy to advertise to my correspondents, such as:

    "Track and Battlefield" in National Review, 12/31/1997:

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/track-and-battlefield-by-steve-sailer.html

    "Is Love Colorblind?” in National Review, 7/14/1997

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I grasp that Dr. Marks would like to both dish dirt and to avoid blame for his membership in an email group that leant toward the heretical. So it’s understandable that he excuses himself as having been duped into volunteering while his self-evidently winning arguments were stumped by my nefarious trickery.

    A more plausible interpretation, however, is that in 1999 Dr. Marks joined in good faith, but was then surprised and disappointed that his arguments on topics like the interrelation of sports and race were less successful than he expected in persuading an extremely elite audience.

    But consider the empirical record since 1999. For example, back then, in the Olympic’s men’s 100 meter dash, the race to determine the World’s Fastest Man, all 32 finalists going back to the 1984 Olympics, had been at least half sub-Saharan black.

    Today in 2018, however, the last 72 finalists in the 100 m dash have been at least half black.

    If science, in the Popperian view, is about making predictions, whose predictions have turned out to be more correct?

    Dr. Marks’ argument isn’t actually with me, it’s with history.
  49. Worse social justice scolds: South Asian women or East Asian women?

    • Replies: @anon
    Second generation Korean women and South Asian women whose families got the boot from Africa by the locals are about the worst scolds, so far. Can't hardly wait to see what future demographic blossoms appear.
  50. @Achmed E. Newman

    I am cast as a villain, ...
     
    Woo - hoo! Then, I see you appear in Mrs. Saini's "much celebrated" new book, right near the beginning. Seriously, this is a good thing, Steve, as this is some good publicity for you.

    The Gell-Mannesia effect is assumed to be a benign thing, just the normal stupidity out of the media, right? From your story, and what I've seen, nowadays it's not always the stupidity or bad memories of these "journalists" that is really behind the errors that we all see in areas that we know lots about (for you, it's your personal history AND you have records).

    Perhaps in many cases, especially with the Lyin' Press being an arm of the ctrl-left now, these media people COUNT ON their readers/viewers having amnesia themselves. People do have short memories regarding politics, while they can still, ahem, remember who got the Heisman trophy in 1983. Steve, you were able to root out the lies out of this author due to your good long-term memory on lots of stuff, along with the records you were able to dig up.

    When's the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden's complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990's was mentioned. I don't remember the details (you can see that!), but I remember it happened. 99.x percent of Americans don't. (x is probably 5 to 8.) The ctrl-left can get away with a lot of lies because of the terrible short-term memories of Americans regarding politics and history.

    “It’s always Day One with these people.”

    Achmed, that’s my favorite phrase to describe the propensity of the Left (and, to be honest, a lot of people) to “forget” even the recent past, and argue as if their idiotic theories have never been discussed and falsified before. I first encountered the phrase on this blog, in a comment by the formidable Zman.

  51. A pair of scrappy junior researchers took her on in a polite but to my mind devastating critique. It was like a scalpel. And they got to the heart of the matter – the false moral panic weaved into her argument.

    https://quillette.com/2019/06/05/superior-the-return-of-race-science-a-review/

  52. @JackOH
    Well, my knowledge of race and intelligence is street-level quality only.

    Doesn't a lot of the talk about race and intelligence amount to, for want of better terms, "the Auschwitz fallacy" and "the Plantation fallacy"? By that I mean that any talk of and inquiry into race and intelligence that falls outside politically prescribed norms is regarded as presumptively motivated by ill will and, should that talk become commonplace, inevitably results in punitive segregation and worse.

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as "anti-Auschwitz" and "anti-Plantation"? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be "un-Hitler" and "un-Confederacy".

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.

    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner–i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!–that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I’d argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that’s what people thought they had done–defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French–broke–had to give up their colonies. Nationalism–people of a given racea and culture running their own nations–was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn’t invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were “intolerant”. That they didn’t like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were “nationalists”.

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners … actually liking themselves and their culture … Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners … actually liking themselves and their culture … Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Yes, they now tell us a peaceful assembly in favour of self-government is what they died fighting in WW2 to keep from Britain:

    https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1111904483729203200
    , @nebulafox
    Hitler aimed to exterminate Bolshevism.

    He brought it to the heart of Europe instead.

    , @Jack D

    Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable.
     
    Another victory like that and we are undone.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Peter Brimelow calls the current Zeitgeist "Hitler's revenge".

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism.
     
    Yes, Hitler was an internationalist, not a nationalist.

    Now the Swedes-- just as "racist" as the Germans-- were true nationalists. They stayed home.
    , @anon
    Poles were obviously the baddies back then, as they are now. They resisted the Nazi empire, the Soviet empire and are now resisting the EU empire. Nasty nationalists who love their own people more than they love Somalians and Yemenis.
  53. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    She got her story wrong by not interviewing Steve, who would have kindly corrected her about Dr. Marks’s characterization of his and Steve’s correspondence should she have asked. Journalism 101 for a book of supposed non-fiction.

    Yes, good journalistic practice would be to ask Steve for a comment or interview, as well as to interview more members of the email list.

  54. @Pat Shuff
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/18/race-science-on-the-rise-angela-saini

    It’s ironic the Guardian chose a photo of Polish nationalists to illustrate the menace of race science. European ethno-nationalists are the ones least likely to be fixated on race. It’s the Guardian types (neoliberal globalists) and the much smaller HBD/IQ gang who see race as central to their thinking.

    They both want to make the American model work but can’t agree on race. The Guardian types believe it’s necessary to lie about racial differences in order to make the American “nation of immigrants” model work, while the HBD’ers believe it’s necessary to tell the truth. Basically it’s a split between degenerated technocrats and technocratic purists.

  55. If I inadvertently wandered into a disagreeable club, I wouldn’t hang around for long. Steve, for how long did Marks linger on the list?

  56. @Anonymous
    Not a very well thought out thought; Punjabis gulp dairy by the gallon and are famed for it

    Right on, having grown up there I can absolutely attest to that, unpasteurized buffalo milk is the preferred one. What amazes me is the knowledge base of Steve Sailor fans, an obscure of a topic like “do Punjabis like dairy” gets an instant answer here.

  57. @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners … actually liking themselves and their culture … Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Yes, they now tell us a peaceful assembly in favour of self-government is what they died fighting in WW2 to keep from Britain:

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Hey good for Dave Lammy.

    Oh wait, he's 0% English. Why should he get any say at all?
  58. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    That’s how every Taki article ends, right in the

    • Replies: @a reader

    That’s how every Taki article ends, right in the
     
    Excellent !
  59. @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Hitler aimed to exterminate Bolshevism.

    He brought it to the heart of Europe instead.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    One of the many tragedies of Hitler's reign is that if he had stuck to eliminating Bolshevism instead of terrorizing and enslaving the Russian (and Polish) people, he very likely would've ended Bolshevism, which would've been hard-pressed to last past the end of 1942 if not his perhaps overconfident prediction of Christmas 1941.
  60. I recently read a book translated from German. About half-way in, I came across a passage describing the funeral of JFK, explaining the branch of the Army (sic) in which he had served was the Marines. That was obviously a couple errors in translation, (english “navy” = german “marine” and “Armed Forces” conflated to “Army”) but one so jarring and simple that it had me questioning everything I read earlier. It took another five or six chapters to finally realize the book (Farewell to the Horse for those curious) was really no good at all: Just the disjointed ramblings and speculations of a German academic, bereft of meaningful structure, insight or facts. He probably contributes to Wikipedia.

  61. @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    You could do way worse than Sikhs.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You could do way worse than Sikhs.
     
    If they can carry their daggers, I can carry my gun.
    , @anon
    Most Sikhs I know are decent people (as are most people from anywhere and everywhere), but quantity has a quality all its own, and there are some qualities that we're better off without

    I wasn't happy with this display of ethnic ego in this year's Khalsa day parade in Toronto -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=929dvebYkow
  62. @Almost Missouri
    I also wonder if it is really correct to credit Gell and Mann (whoever they are) with the insight about journalism. I seem to recall writers from at least as far back as the 1920s making essentially the identical argument.

    Noticing that most journalism is fraud that most of the audience willingly accept is not new.

    Just one guy, Murray Gell-Mann, who was[1] a Nobel-winning physicist. Crichton was an outspoken global warming skeptic and probably named it after Gell-Mann to lend it scientific gravitas.

    You’re correct that similar arguments have been made in the past, such as in socialist Walter Lippmann’s 1922 Public Opinion,[2] which is probably what you were thinking of, and by conservatives such as Reed Irvine and Robert Conquest, whose 1969 Law of Politics[3] stated “everyone is a reactionary about subjects he understands.”

    [1] He died the Sunday before last, outlasting his 13 years younger friend Crichton by more than a decade.
    [2] Which on the flip side was a major influence on Critical Theory aka SJWism.
    [3] There was only one; Derbyshire’s 2003 column misattributed the other two.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for the appraisal. I may indeed have read it in Lippman, since I took in a certain amount of his work in college. Though I think I also (hence the plural in my original comment) recall it from at least one continental European writer. I particularly remember the image of "turning the page and expecting the next article to be somehow better informed".

    I suspect it has been something of a pre-internet meme for at least a century now.
  63. @JackOH
    Well, my knowledge of race and intelligence is street-level quality only.

    Doesn't a lot of the talk about race and intelligence amount to, for want of better terms, "the Auschwitz fallacy" and "the Plantation fallacy"? By that I mean that any talk of and inquiry into race and intelligence that falls outside politically prescribed norms is regarded as presumptively motivated by ill will and, should that talk become commonplace, inevitably results in punitive segregation and worse.

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as "anti-Auschwitz" and "anti-Plantation"? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be "un-Hitler" and "un-Confederacy".

    This is a very interesting idea, JackOH. It would suggest that in some sense these ideas may be intellectual/political fashions, which would be revised, perhaps relativized, in the future.

    We’ve seen something similar happen with all the assumptions we took for granted during the Cold War. Back then, the Left-Right, Captive-Free polarities seemed to clearly govern every national question. The world of parochial national interests and identities–i.e., the order prior to the First World War–seemed so distant and irrelevant. But we’ve seen the latter reassert themeselves in the generation after the Cold War, while the once-dominant Left-Right axis fades by the day.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    ChrisZ, thanks, and I agree with you about the Cold War putting an upper bound on nationalist rhetoric. I think the pre-unification Federal Republic maintained an office of intra-German relations, but it was a bureaucratic entity, and I'm not sure what it did beyond maintaining a claim to the Germany within 1937 (?) borders.

    I'm not 100% sure what I was getting at with my comment. What I am sure of is that a populist politics that calls all of us to our common American-ness probably won't be successful, and one reason is that the rhetoric tends to sound a bit Hitlerian. (For example, Pat Buchanan, and the current President Trump, who's been dogged over and over by his opponents for hate-mongering. BTW-I voted Libertarian.)

    So populism's out, democratic socialism's out, so what we have is politicians talking packages of single issues, which makes them extremely vulnerable to Corporate America, which has massive single-issue expertise and can deliver campaign contributions big-time, and specialty lobbies, such the abortion folks, LGBQT people, and so on.
  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    (That lineup makes me feel like the batboy on the 1927 Yankees: honored just to be on the same field.)
     
    Not the batboy, but somebody who knows all the players.

    If we laymen reading on the periphery matter at all, you are performing an important job by observing all the plays and reporting them to us.

    Ah, you are the announcer -- in California.

    http://bioproj.sabr.org/bp_ftp/images5/ScullyVin.jpg

    Not the batboy, but somebody who knows all the players.
    If we laymen reading on the periphery matter at all, you are performing an important job by observing all the plays and reporting them to us.
    Ah, you are the announcer — in California.

    Agree with the sentiment. Steve isn’t a batboy, but he’s not just Vin Scully either.

    He’s been critical in confronting the stupidity of the reigning ideology, calling out it’s contradictions, encouraging clear thought and spreading “the emperor has no clothes” word.

    There is no ready sports–or at least baseball–analogy. Not just announcer, but analyst and coach as well. Steve is huge in getting the West back on side.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    I agree. I just couldn't come up with a better analogy (because I can't write and analyze as well as Steve. LOL)

    BTW, I wish I could read whatever he and those invited intellectuals write in his invitation-only discussion group. I trust he distills it and pours it into this blog for the rest of us to drink.

    It definitely can't be like the Bud Light piss "beer" he says he drinks! LOL (I just took Murray's "Bubble Test" and scored 19, but somehow I think I am not as insulated as my score indicates.)
  65. @nebulafox
    Hitler aimed to exterminate Bolshevism.

    He brought it to the heart of Europe instead.

    One of the many tragedies of Hitler’s reign is that if he had stuck to eliminating Bolshevism instead of terrorizing and enslaving the Russian (and Polish) people, he very likely would’ve ended Bolshevism, which would’ve been hard-pressed to last past the end of 1942 if not his perhaps overconfident prediction of Christmas 1941.

  66. @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable.

    Another victory like that and we are undone.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    I doubt there will ever be another major genocide (barring, perhaps, a limited[1] nuclear war) committed by white people. So there's little risk of the Western nationalist right being tarred with another original sin similar to the Holocaust, slavery, historical discrimination, and colonialism[2].

    The main ways the fringe right sabotages the right in general nowadays is not by mega-scale genocide but micro-scale actions like tweeting death/rape threats at lefties and oven memes at Jews and individual macro-scale disasters like Charlottesville and atrocities like Oklahoma City, Breivik, the Pittsburgh synagogue and New Zealand.[3]

    The mega-scale developments that could potentially do within an order of magnitude of the long-term damage to Western civilization as the Holocaust, and that elements of the fringe and semi-fringe (e.g. Sailer) right hope for, come from outside Western governments' direct control, such as the comprehensive geopolitical defeat of the American bloc at the hands of Russia[4] or the far more dire threat of China,[5] or a second US civil war.[6]

    [1] An apocalyptic nuclear war obviously renders right and left irrelevant or nearly so.
    [2] Which includes the phenomena of Apartheid and Israel. I'm personally fairly sympathetic to the latter but it objectively provides a rhetorical stick with which to beat the mainstream Western nationalist right everywhere in the world except, for the time being, America.
    [3] Charlottesville and Pittsburgh cost Republicans the 2018 midterms, in a wave that made no distinction between cucks and the most solid anti-immigration nationalists like Kris Kobach, Dana Rohrabacher, Pete Sessions and Dave Brat, among many others. Steve King was rendered a dead man walking. Coulter and Trump are no longer on speaking terms and Kushner was promoted to de facto Chief of Staff.

    OKC reversed Clinton's poll deficit vs Dole, who would've implemented the Barbara Jordan commission's recommendations. In this counterfactual it's even somewhat possible Buchanan would've been the victorious nominee.
    [4] Russia itself is brutal, extremely corrupt and far more cucked than commonly portrayed,* but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It's their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.

    *Putin has vastly outdone Merkel in facilitating Muslim immivasion, "hate speech" laws are more vigorously enforced than anywhere bar Germany and Sweden, the abortion rate among whites is near the highest in the world and the rate of HIV infection is by far the highest of any white country, making it the literal epicenter of poz.
    [5] The Chinese yoke will in the best case - probably implausibly so - scenario be a 1984 panopticon where a boot stamps on our faces forever.

    The Chinese thoroughly believe in their (arguably real) racial superiority and have been trained to loathe us by years of (false, FWIW) "unequal treaties" and "Opium Wars" propaganda, making the above scenario of equal treatment pretty far-fetched. The most likely scenario for us whites is Generalplan Ost, and the worst case we get turned into biofuel.
    [6] While there could be significant upside, the reverse is also true; our side could lose, or win at the cost of a country reduced to mass starvation and rubble, the above mentioned Chinese yoke and/or the creation of a domestic totalitarian regime that murders millions.
  67. ‘De Nile is the most popular river in the West. It flows through every capital, through every university town, by every courthouse, every newspaper office, every movie studio. People boat down it, jog and walk beside it, sit and daydream by it, float down it, swim in it, wash in it, drink from it, toss in pennies and wish upon it. They even go down and get baptized in it.

    ‘De Nile is the modern West. And it is floating us all out to sea.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Another, I will assume that this is your writing, very nicely done.
  68. Anon[770] • Disclaimer says:

    He adds, judiciously, that he doesn’t think these differences will be large—only a fraction as big as the variation between individuals, just as biologist Richard Lewontin estimated in 1972.

    This drives me nuts. What she’s saying is that, since 95 percent of people are within plus or minus two standard deviations of the mean, a span of four standard deviations, a mean difference between blacks and whites of a mere one standard deviation is tiny, a mere one-quarter of the span. (Or you can make it smaller by going to three SDs and 98 percent and mean differences are 1/6 of the span.)

    But what this means is is that:

    — 4 percent of blacks will fall between an IQ of 100 and 120, while 16 percent of whites will

    — 2 percent of whites will have an IQ over 130, whereas only a tenth of a percent of blacks will

    — 17 percent of blacks will be retarded, while 2 percent of whites will be.

    (This assumes the same standard deviation for both groups; in reality, blacks are less varied and less present at the extremes.)

    Do we call this “Lewontin’s Second Fallacy” or should we rename it “Reich’s Fallacy”?

    Saini has an engineering masters. Can we assume she studied statistics, or is that not used in engineering?

    By the way, Saini seems to have been a student through roughly 2005, assuming two years per masters degree. By 2008 she had won a journalism award. I think we can assume that she never really worked as an engineer or scientist. This follows the pattern of, for instance, black law graduates of Harvard Law who weirdly often never end up working in law. In that case it’s probably because of their low ability, having been affirmative-actioned all the way through law school. But for Indians in the UK, that would not be the case, would it? Would an Oxford engineering program have accepted an non-qualified Indian female in the early aughts? I wonder what her undergraduate degree was in. If not STEM, then maybe the “engineering” degree was one of those “humanities STEM” things, like “Teaching diverse students engineering in a hostile racial monoculture.” Stanford physics, among other schools, is cranking out female black “physics” PhDs by the bushel with fake dissertations like that. They are getting hired by physics departments as professors, and the real physics is taught by underpaid adjuncts.

    • Replies: @jon

    Would an Oxford engineering program have accepted an non-qualified Indian female in the early aughts?
     
    I don't know if Indian would have gotten her any preference, but the female part certainly could have done some heavy lifting.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Anon(770) asked:

    Do we call this “Lewontin’s Second Fallacy” or should we rename it “Reich’s Fallacy”?
     
    Reich knows the truth. He also holds the quaint, old-fashioned belief that human beings should be judged as individuals.

    I.e., Thomas Sowell and John McWhorter really are smarter -- much smarter! -- than most white people.

    Once upon a time, judging human beings as individuals was called "liberalism."

    Now?

    I am very much afraid that David Reich will soon be in as much trouble as James Watson.

    Which is a horrible shame: Who We Are and How We Got Here is truly a great book, independent of his comments about differences between contemporary races.

    Reich is the very model of a true scientist: hew to the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

    This is not going to end well.
  69. Be honest, Steve. You’re realllly excited about this book, it gives you material to write about to rile up your readers to bring in those donation shekels.

    Also, please don’t call other people resentful. You are the very embodiment of resentment.

  70. daq says:

    Also, she seems to have mentioned you only in passing o has a very small section on you: you make yourself into a towering figure in her book. I bet that’s a misrepresentation. No, I haven’t read the book. This is just a guess based on what I know about your personality.

  71. Theodore Dalrymple has a great quote that applies to a whole slew of things the left is trying to do these days: “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

  72. That lineup makes me feel like the batboy on the 1927 Yankees: honored just to be on the same field.

    Very charming.

  73. @Unladen Swallow
    Wow, Steve, it only took you twenty years to get mentioned repeatedly in a mainstream "idea" book, albeit one published in the UK. You would think TPTB would have actually published one of your books first before allowing one of their members to critique your work, how could the mainstream reading public even know anything about you and your heretical ideas otherwise? You pretty much had to self publish your Obama bio, the public might actually have to read your blog or Twitter account now. This tactic might actually blow up in their face and have the opposite effect of what was intended, since no one in the elite actually will admit to reading anything you've wrote until now.

    An interesting aside, I know you championed a lot of work by Vincent Sarich earlier in your blogging and that he was the bane of leftist anthropologists everywhere, especially at Cal-Berkeley where he worked, but Sarich actually published scientific papers with Jonathan Marks. I'm guessing that would have been an interesting scientific partnership, since Marks is as you said is a hard doctrinaire leftist.

    Vincent Sarich was at UCB when I was there. He got quoted in the Daily Cal (the campus free commie rag) at a debate about the genetic roots of homosexuality. “How could there be a gene for homosexuality? How the hell would it perpetuate itself?” It generated plenty of discussion, I’ll tell you. No way would any such commie rag publish that quote today.

    • Replies: @Logan
    They actually have an evolutionary strategy mapped out.

    The homosexual in this theory is more attached to his brother's and sister's children, helps raise them and therefore they are more likely to survive. So his genes survive even if not directly from him.

    The idea is that this is like the wolf pack where only the alpha pair breed.

    All hooey. Much more likely that there is no homo gene, that when it's inborn it's due to hormonal or other non-genetic effects during pregnancy, essentially a type of non-genetic birth defect.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Frank Salter has posted three videos of Vincent Sarich giving a lecture outside of Moscow in 2001 on YouTube. They were posted about 10 months ago. Were you there when he had protestors demonstrating inside and outside his classes? It looks like he took early retirement from UCB not long after that for critiquing affirmative action.
  74. @JackOH
    Well, my knowledge of race and intelligence is street-level quality only.

    Doesn't a lot of the talk about race and intelligence amount to, for want of better terms, "the Auschwitz fallacy" and "the Plantation fallacy"? By that I mean that any talk of and inquiry into race and intelligence that falls outside politically prescribed norms is regarded as presumptively motivated by ill will and, should that talk become commonplace, inevitably results in punitive segregation and worse.

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as "anti-Auschwitz" and "anti-Plantation"? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be "un-Hitler" and "un-Confederacy".

    “anti-Auschwitz”

    So are you saying that your are PRO- Auschwitz?

    The problem is not in being anti-Auschwitz. (Hopefully) every sane person is anti-Auschwitz. The problem is in the slippery slope argument, where if I disrespect you by forgetting to put the vanilla syrup in your latte, I have stepped onto the slippery slope that ends at the gates of Auschwitz.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Jack D, thanks.

    "The problem is in the slippery slope argument, where if I disrespect you by forgetting to put the vanilla syrup in your latte, I have stepped onto the slippery slope that ends at the gates of Auschwitz."

    That's it exactly, Jack D.
  75. I like that Noah Carl and coauthor at Quillette give a shout-out to Nicholas Wade, and say his book was unfairly condemned.

    https://quillette.com/2019/06/05/superior-the-return-of-race-science-a-review/

  76. @Jack D

    "anti-Auschwitz”
     
    So are you saying that your are PRO- Auschwitz?

    The problem is not in being anti-Auschwitz. (Hopefully) every sane person is anti-Auschwitz. The problem is in the slippery slope argument, where if I disrespect you by forgetting to put the vanilla syrup in your latte, I have stepped onto the slippery slope that ends at the gates of Auschwitz.

    Jack D, thanks.

    “The problem is in the slippery slope argument, where if I disrespect you by forgetting to put the vanilla syrup in your latte, I have stepped onto the slippery slope that ends at the gates of Auschwitz.”

    That’s it exactly, Jack D.

  77. @R.G. Camara
    I hate and usually forget the term "Gell-Man Effect" right after I've searched for it and used it in a discussion. It's incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    I'm surprised Crichton, a wordsmith, promoted it, but then again, he was an author used to having a full-length novel to explore his ideas, not an ad man or meme creator or comedian searching for a quick zinger to sear into your brain.

    "Newspaper Amnesia" is much more memorable and easier to get intuitively, so its what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering. I'm sure Trump could create and nail a better version, if so required.

    I hate and usually forget the term “Gell-Man Effect” right after I’ve searched for it and used it in a discussion. It’s incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    Don’t worry, as long as you read this blog you’ll never get away from the “Jack D Effect.” His posts are are a constant momento Gell-Mani, at least to the extent that they’ll send you groping around for “that word for somebody who seems like they know a lot, until they write about something I know.”

    • LOL: JudgeSmails
  78. Angela Saini is a Punjabi con artist. She knows perfectly well that her “side” of the argument is a lot of rot. But like a typical Asian con artist, she also knows what side butters her bread. So she takes a whiff of the zeitgeist, understands that anti-white-ism is the go-to move for the up-and-coming Journolist, and she goes at it full tilt. Surely, money, plaudits and awards will follow, right according to plan.

    But she knows she’s full of it. If the zeitgeist shifted to pro-white-ism, she’d be right there.

    Troublesome Asians: they’re everywhere!

    • Agree: Alfa158, Prodigal son
  79. @snorlax
    Just one guy, Murray Gell-Mann, who was[1] a Nobel-winning physicist. Crichton was an outspoken global warming skeptic and probably named it after Gell-Mann to lend it scientific gravitas.

    You're correct that similar arguments have been made in the past, such as in socialist Walter Lippmann's 1922 Public Opinion,[2] which is probably what you were thinking of, and by conservatives such as Reed Irvine and Robert Conquest, whose 1969 Law of Politics[3] stated "everyone is a reactionary about subjects he understands."

    [1] He died the Sunday before last, outlasting his 13 years younger friend Crichton by more than a decade.
    [2] Which on the flip side was a major influence on Critical Theory aka SJWism.
    [3] There was only one; Derbyshire's 2003 column misattributed the other two.

    Thanks for the appraisal. I may indeed have read it in Lippman, since I took in a certain amount of his work in college. Though I think I also (hence the plural in my original comment) recall it from at least one continental European writer. I particularly remember the image of “turning the page and expecting the next article to be somehow better informed”.

    I suspect it has been something of a pre-internet meme for at least a century now.

  80. As a loyal Indian racialist (her first book was Geek Nation: How Indian Science Is Taking Over the World), she has an obsession with finding sciencey-sounding arguments that her people have just as much right to move to England as the native English have to live there.

    Oh, so she’s Indian? India–isn’t that where they have hereditary castes and jati? Just no races, please!

  81. Kick Reality out the door, she comes in through the window. Throw her out the window, she comes up through the septic system.

  82. “Murray Gell-Man had pointed out to Crichton that he had noticed that journalists aren’t very accurate at writing about his own specialty, physics, nor about Crichton’s, showbiz, so why do we trust them to write reliably about everything else?”

    Appeal to authority fallacy. Gell-Man is certainly entitled to his opinion that journalists are less than skilled in investigating certain topics, but that does not necessarily mean that those writers overall lack the intellectual chops to address meaty topics.

    https://scicom.ucsc.edu/about/docs/interactions-2007.pdf

    Of course, it could be argued that physics has an image problem.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-party-physics/science-writer-throwndown-fear-and-loathing-of-physics/?redirect=1

    “keep on noticing differences between human groups”

    Of course it is not necessarily about noticing the differences, but how those differences are noticed and for what purpose. Of course we know that race is real as a construct developed by humans to describe their surroundings. It is just that the race mongerers of the Coalition of the Right and the Left enjoy muddying up the waters.

    “West African runners…”

    There have been studies that have NOTICED the biological angle regarding the differences in black and white athletes.

    https://www.livescience.com/10716-scientists-theorize-black-athletes-run-fastest.html

    We also know that environment plays an integral role as well. Kenya has won an astonishing 63 medals at the Olympic Games in races of 800m and above (21 gold!), since 1968. It turns out it is not Kenya as a whole that usually emerged victorious, but individuals from a region in the Rift Valley called Nandi. So context matters here, since an argument could be made that distance running is a Nandi phenomenon. The success of “black” distance running is concentrated in a decidedly small area, with the vast majority of the continent under-represented.

    
When it comes to the sprints, why has Africa not dominated? The combined forces of several nations (e.g. Guinea-Bissau, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Togo, Niger, Benin, Mali, the Gambia, Ghana, Gabon, Senegal) thave not won a single sprinting medal (to my knowledge) at the Olympics or World Championships; rather, it has been the Jamaicans and the Americans. Just because some black people are good (or bad) at something does not imply that black people in general will be good (or bad) at something. Training, funding, and past success ALL play a role here.

    Is there not far more genetic variation WITHIN than BETWEEN racial groups?

    • Replies: @guest
    Gell-Man is not an authority to whom anyone appeals. He's just the guy who gave this other guy an idea which happens to have subsequently named after the first guy.
  83. Picture os a suspect who shot a cabby 9 times in the middle of Boston. The Globe posted this for a supposed mug-shot of the captured suspect:

    The article: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/05/man-who-allegedly-shot-boston-cabbie-back-bay-due-court/1SFHxYKilwU6qtnlRBMIGM/story.html#comment-92398086

    Superior, right.

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
    looks like he is a white-black similar to how zimmerman was a white-hispanic
  84. Picture of a suspect who shot a cabby 9 times in the middle of Boston. The Globe posted this for a supposed mug-shot of the captured suspect:

    The article: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/05/man-who-allegedly-shot-boston-cabbie-back-bay-due-court/1SFHxYKilwU6qtnlRBMIGM/story.html#comment-92398086

    Superior, right.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Court paperwork includes a [photocopied] mug shot of murder suspect Phillip Foy. The judge allowed him to hide from sight during arraignment.
     
    Why no mug shot release? Why did the judge hide him?

    Illegal alien? A new Judge Shelley Joseph situation?

  85. That lineup makes me feel like the batboy on the 1927 Yankees: honored just to be on the same field.

    Miss Saini might have said “hunchback”:

    Is Eddie Bennett’s autograph, like Eddie Gaedel’s, worth more than Ruth’s? Is Ruth’s even worth that much? My stepdad told me my autographed Bob Feller cap isn’t worth that much because he was hard-up in retirement and signed everything he got his hands on.

  86. @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Peter Brimelow calls the current Zeitgeist “Hitler’s revenge”.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism.

    Yes, Hitler was an internationalist, not a nationalist.

    Now the Swedes– just as “racist” as the Germans– were true nationalists. They stayed home.

  87. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    Ending posts abruptly is a Steve Sailer trademark.

  88. @Jack D

    Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable.
     
    Another victory like that and we are undone.

    I doubt there will ever be another major genocide (barring, perhaps, a limited[1] nuclear war) committed by white people. So there’s little risk of the Western nationalist right being tarred with another original sin similar to the Holocaust, slavery, historical discrimination, and colonialism[2].

    The main ways the fringe right sabotages the right in general nowadays is not by mega-scale genocide but micro-scale actions like tweeting death/rape threats at lefties and oven memes at Jews and individual macro-scale disasters like Charlottesville and atrocities like Oklahoma City, Breivik, the Pittsburgh synagogue and New Zealand.[3]

    The mega-scale developments that could potentially do within an order of magnitude of the long-term damage to Western civilization as the Holocaust, and that elements of the fringe and semi-fringe (e.g. Sailer) right hope for, come from outside Western governments’ direct control, such as the comprehensive geopolitical defeat of the American bloc at the hands of Russia[4] or the far more dire threat of China,[5] or a second US civil war.[6]

    [1] An apocalyptic nuclear war obviously renders right and left irrelevant or nearly so.
    [2] Which includes the phenomena of Apartheid and Israel. I’m personally fairly sympathetic to the latter but it objectively provides a rhetorical stick with which to beat the mainstream Western nationalist right everywhere in the world except, for the time being, America.
    [3] Charlottesville and Pittsburgh cost Republicans the 2018 midterms, in a wave that made no distinction between cucks and the most solid anti-immigration nationalists like Kris Kobach, Dana Rohrabacher, Pete Sessions and Dave Brat, among many others. Steve King was rendered a dead man walking. Coulter and Trump are no longer on speaking terms and Kushner was promoted to de facto Chief of Staff.

    OKC reversed Clinton’s poll deficit vs Dole, who would’ve implemented the Barbara Jordan commission’s recommendations. In this counterfactual it’s even somewhat possible Buchanan would’ve been the victorious nominee.
    [4] Russia itself is brutal, extremely corrupt and far more cucked than commonly portrayed,* but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It’s their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.

    *Putin has vastly outdone Merkel in facilitating Muslim immivasion, “hate speech” laws are more vigorously enforced than anywhere bar Germany and Sweden, the abortion rate among whites is near the highest in the world and the rate of HIV infection is by far the highest of any white country, making it the literal epicenter of poz.
    [5] The Chinese yoke will in the best case – probably implausibly so – scenario be a 1984 panopticon where a boot stamps on our faces forever.

    The Chinese thoroughly believe in their (arguably real) racial superiority and have been trained to loathe us by years of (false, FWIW) “unequal treaties” and “Opium Wars” propaganda, making the above scenario of equal treatment pretty far-fetched. The most likely scenario for us whites is Generalplan Ost, and the worst case we get turned into biofuel.
    [6] While there could be significant upside, the reverse is also true; our side could lose, or win at the cost of a country reduced to mass starvation and rubble, the above mentioned Chinese yoke and/or the creation of a domestic totalitarian regime that murders millions.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    I agree in general but regarding another major genocide: The accelerating colonization of White countries by non-Whites is the next major genocide. It’s not primarily a violent one, there are no death squads or concentration camps, and the victims are partially responsible because of their low fertility and passive acceptance of the rule of the elites promoting it, but the final objective is still genocide. Racial extermination by absorption.
    Also regarding;
    “ but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It’s their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.”
    No one in that list is bringing ruin to our civilization except the Western Leftists. Latin American Leftists are no threat to anyone except themselves. The Latin American threat is from the ongoing immivasion. The others in that list are threats to Israel, which I regard as an outpost of the West, but are not threats to the rest of the West in general. Rome was still Rome even after losing its outposts on the Elba.
    , @Amigo
    I don't know of the rest, but Rohrabacher lost because of democrats going door-to-door in his district and harvesting ballots. Something newly legal in California and not legal anywhere else in the US.
    , @Logan
    years of (false, FWIW) “unequal treaties” and “Opium Wars” propaganda

    I would say not entirely false, but certainly very one-sided.

    As the Crusades are normally represented as evil Christians aggressing against Muslims for no particular reason. That story is part of the truth, but leaves out so much it's deceptive, often intentionally so.

    Similarly, the story of the collapse of the Qing over the course of the 19th century and resulting exploitation by Euros is a more complex story than that told by the Chinese today.

    The Qing collapse was remarkably rapid. In 1800 neither the Chinese nor Euros thought of China a greatly inferior. By 1842 their military was useless.

  89. @anon
    OT:

    Speaking of low-brow journalism, Jorge Ramos's daughter is looking to follow in Dad's footsteps and recently made a short video piece for Vice on how the Meth epidemic is affecting Latinx's in Fresno.

    However, she was so transparent and clumsy in pushing the whole Hispanic aspect of her story that she is getting roasted in the youtube comments.

    I guess the media has learned that you've got to really spell it out for Hispanics: continually remind them they are Hispanic and that they ought to be mad!

    Was she undercover as a meth head?

    • Replies: @jon

    Was she undercover as a meth head?
     
    From the youtube comments: the preferred term for Latino is now 'Methican-American'
  90. Sean says:

    As physicist will tell you Albert Einstein’s discoveries show the past to future time doesn’t exist. He got out of Germany in a very timely fashion in 1933 nonetheless. No need to be dogmatic about it.

    Ancient Greeks has a word ‘megalothymia’ (the desire to be reckoned superior to others). No one exerts themselves to be a great inventor, writer or artist out of ‘isothymia’ (the desire to be ‘on an equal basis’ with other people). All human achievement stems from the desire to be superior to
    ones isothymic self that is only equal to others. To recognised as superior is what motivates people to write books about race as a social construct.

    “Liberal democracy produced “men without chests,” composed of desire and reason but lacking thymos, clever at finding new ways to satisfy a host of petty wants through the calculation of long-term self-interest. The last man had no desire to be recognised as greater than others, and without such desire no excellence or achievement was possible. Content with his happiness and unable to feel any sense of shame for being unable to rise above those wants, the last man ceased to be human.”
    – Francis Fukuyama, The End of History and the Last Man

    He was not talking about Donald Trump, or Saini.

  91. I prefer single-word titles to be nouns. Or possibly with double-meanings of noun and verb, like the Saw franchise. But adjectival ones are bothersome.

    Instead of Superior, how about Supremacy? Then you tie it directly to the popular phrase “white supremacy.” Or is that too on-the-nose?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Too on-the-noose.
  92. @Jim Christian
    Picture of a suspect who shot a cabby 9 times in the middle of Boston. The Globe posted this for a supposed mug-shot of the captured suspect:
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/g8Yecp00faP_3YmLyZF8I2cUDrc=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2TYNZREHVUI6TC7Q6Q6CVKTE5M.jpg

    The article: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/05/man-who-allegedly-shot-boston-cabbie-back-bay-due-court/1SFHxYKilwU6qtnlRBMIGM/story.html#comment-92398086

    Superior, right.

    Court paperwork includes a [photocopied] mug shot of murder suspect Phillip Foy. The judge allowed him to hide from sight during arraignment.

    Why no mug shot release? Why did the judge hide him?

    Illegal alien? A new Judge Shelley Joseph situation?

    • Replies: @anon
    The Boston media, judiciary, and politicians have been in blackout mode regarding the ethnic identity of Foy, even though anyone with half a brain knows by now that no photo/description provided = minority, usually black. That is, if the fact that someone shot a cabbie 9 times at midday in a very public and busy area of Boston was not a sufficient indication of the likely suspect's race. In fact, I can't remember the last cabbie in Boston that was murdered by a non-black.

    Of course, most cabbies in Boston tend to be black as well, but immigrants from Africa driving erratically while texting/talking on the phone. The Boston media were positively gushing with admiration for the murdered cabbie, an immigrant from Nigeria and a father of 5. The fact that he refused to drive a black customer 33 miles out of town figuring, correctly, that he was going to be robbed at least, was not brought up as racist. Didn't Obama say that he knew he was black because he couldn't get a cab ride?

    My guess is the cab driver told Foy in no uncertain terms how he felt about driving a [insert a term common when blacks address each other] way the hell out of town and Foy took offense at this immigrant giving him lip. If you just want to rob someone, you don't need to shoot him 9 times at close range. Unlucky for him, the cabbie was a black immigrant from Africa, an especially sacred black body. If the cab driver had been white, Suffolk County DA Rollins would likely refuse to prosecute on grounds of racism - that was the campaign platform she got elected on, essentially.
  93. @Achmed E. Newman

    I am cast as a villain, ...
     
    Woo - hoo! Then, I see you appear in Mrs. Saini's "much celebrated" new book, right near the beginning. Seriously, this is a good thing, Steve, as this is some good publicity for you.

    The Gell-Mannesia effect is assumed to be a benign thing, just the normal stupidity out of the media, right? From your story, and what I've seen, nowadays it's not always the stupidity or bad memories of these "journalists" that is really behind the errors that we all see in areas that we know lots about (for you, it's your personal history AND you have records).

    Perhaps in many cases, especially with the Lyin' Press being an arm of the ctrl-left now, these media people COUNT ON their readers/viewers having amnesia themselves. People do have short memories regarding politics, while they can still, ahem, remember who got the Heisman trophy in 1983. Steve, you were able to root out the lies out of this author due to your good long-term memory on lots of stuff, along with the records you were able to dig up.

    When's the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden's complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990's was mentioned. I don't remember the details (you can see that!), but I remember it happened. 99.x percent of Americans don't. (x is probably 5 to 8.) The ctrl-left can get away with a lot of lies because of the terrible short-term memories of Americans regarding politics and history.

    When’s the last time now-big-shot Joe Biden’s complete plagiarism in a speech he made in the 1990’s was mentioned.

    Joe’s new Green Deal proposal ripped off big portions of AOC’s word for word. I guess his staff is as dumb as he is.

  94. @Corvinus
    “Murray Gell-Man had pointed out to Crichton that he had noticed that journalists aren’t very accurate at writing about his own specialty, physics, nor about Crichton’s, showbiz, so why do we trust them to write reliably about everything else?”

    Appeal to authority fallacy. Gell-Man is certainly entitled to his opinion that journalists are less than skilled in investigating certain topics, but that does not necessarily mean that those writers overall lack the intellectual chops to address meaty topics.

    https://scicom.ucsc.edu/about/docs/interactions-2007.pdf

    Of course, it could be argued that physics has an image problem.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-party-physics/science-writer-throwndown-fear-and-loathing-of-physics/?redirect=1

    “keep on noticing differences between human groups”

    Of course it is not necessarily about noticing the differences, but how those differences are noticed and for what purpose. Of course we know that race is real as a construct developed by humans to describe their surroundings. It is just that the race mongerers of the Coalition of the Right and the Left enjoy muddying up the waters.

    "West African runners..."

    There have been studies that have NOTICED the biological angle regarding the differences in black and white athletes.

    https://www.livescience.com/10716-scientists-theorize-black-athletes-run-fastest.html

    We also know that environment plays an integral role as well. Kenya has won an astonishing 63 medals at the Olympic Games in races of 800m and above (21 gold!), since 1968. It turns out it is not Kenya as a whole that usually emerged victorious, but individuals from a region in the Rift Valley called Nandi. So context matters here, since an argument could be made that distance running is a Nandi phenomenon. The success of "black" distance running is concentrated in a decidedly small area, with the vast majority of the continent under-represented.

    
When it comes to the sprints, why has Africa not dominated? The combined forces of several nations (e.g. Guinea-Bissau, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Togo, Niger, Benin, Mali, the Gambia, Ghana, Gabon, Senegal) thave not won a single sprinting medal (to my knowledge) at the Olympics or World Championships; rather, it has been the Jamaicans and the Americans. Just because some black people are good (or bad) at something does not imply that black people in general will be good (or bad) at something. Training, funding, and past success ALL play a role here.

    Is there not far more genetic variation WITHIN than BETWEEN racial groups?

    Gell-Man is not an authority to whom anyone appeals. He’s just the guy who gave this other guy an idea which happens to have subsequently named after the first guy.

    • Replies: @jon

    Gell-Mann is not an authority to whom anyone appeals.
     
    Exactly, Gell-Mann may have been one of the greats of the physics world, but he isn't a known-quantity to the common man the way a Hawking or a Sagan are. Even on here, a more informed group than most, we have people thinking it is a reference to one Mr. Gell and another Mr. Mann.
  95. Abe says:

    No day can be a bad day which starts off with a Sailer essay on TAKI’S! Anyway, Steve’s walk down memory lane back to those halcyon late 90’s days when political correctness was in abeyance, the Internet was still fresh and new, and the only woman to have seen Jeff Bezos’s kindle was his mommy, I’m reminded of how surprisingly open-minded and empirical even self-described ultra liberals once were. Saini s a moron and a liar; far from being some sort of ur-Shaitan who singlehandedly seeded the diabolical notion of using emergent genetic science advances to inform our understanding of sociology, economics, etc. in a more race-realist way, Steve’s proposed framework was quite uncontroversial and, with all due respect, not shatteringly original.

    In fact, well before I had ever heard of Steve I remember coming across this essay in uber-progressive SALON.COM, when it actually cared about debate and ideas and was more than a clickbait factory. In fact, this reasonable and open-minded essay/book review which heavily leans on the example of black dominance in particular sports looks like it was straight ripped from a Steve Sailer column:

    https://www.salon.com/2000/01/28/taboo/

    It’s no secret that blacks dominate much of the world of sports. In track, the purest test of athletic ability, runners of African descent hold every single men’s world record at every standard distance, from the 100 meters (where no non-black athlete has held the world record since 1960) to the marathon. In pro football, the positions that require the greatest combination of speed, power and explosiveness — wide receiver, cornerback and running back — are almost entirely played by blacks. In pro basketball — the sport that requires the greatest combination of leaping ability, power bursts and agility — almost all the starters and virtually all the superstars are black. In baseball, blacks are also disproportionately represented, although not to the same degree that they are in the more athletically demanding basketball and football.

    [MORE]

    None of this is news to anyone who watches American sports or track and field — and it hasn’t been news for over 30 years. You have to go back to the early ’60s, if not earlier, to find a time when blacks didn’t completely dominate basketball and, to a lesser degree, football. The days when NFL teams routinely started two white wide receivers (remember Boyd Dowler and Carrol Dale?) seem as paleolithic as the jump pass and the quick kick.

    Black athletic domination is so accepted today that it’s easy to forget how astonishing it is. But what is even more astonishing is that everyone — with the exception of the athletes themselves — is afraid to talk in public about it. Even acknowledging that blacks are superior athletes veers uncomfortably close to a question still too traumatic for America’s delicate racial sensibilities: Why are they?

    The politically correct answer is that blacks dominate sports not because of a biological advantage, but because of an environmental disadvantage. Black athletic achievement is a direct result of racism: For blacks, athletics was practically the only way out of the ghetto, so they had extraordinary motivation to succeed.

    There is obviously much truth in this answer. Before scoffing at the idea that environment alone could produce so many world-class black athletes, we would do well to remember that cultural and environmental factors are notoriously easy to underestimate. No one suggests that Ashkenazi Jews or Asians are genetically selected to be superior classical musicians, yet they are disproportionately represented in that field. (For that matter, no one suggests that blacks are genetically selected to be virtuoso improvising musicians — yet they dominate jazz as much as they do football or basketball.) Why not run out looking for Japanese genes that select for flower-arranging, or Southern American Scottish-Irish genes that lead to NASCAR driving?

    Moreover, there are good reasons to wantto believe that black athletic domination has no physiological basis. Science has a long and disreputable history of making false extrapolations from inconclusive hard data — extrapolations that often merely parrot the prejudices of the age. In the case of blacks, whom whites have perniciously associated with “brute animality” ever since they first encountered them, those prejudices have gone underground, but can be easily reawakened. And certainly with a “soft” social phenomenon like athletic domination, as opposed to a “hard” one like blacks’ genetic susceptibility to sickle-cell anemia, hard-science explanations must be looked at with skepticism.

    But setting a world record in the 100 meters is a more quantifiable achievement than ripping through a Rachmaninoff concerto or blowing a trumpet solo on “So What.” And as both black athletic domination and our knowledge of genetics, physical anthropology and physiology have grown, it has become increasingly hard to assert that environmental factors alone can explain black superiority in sports.

    • Replies: @guest
    PC in abeyance in the 90s? That was when the general public was just becoming aware of the term. Also, the Bell Curve was published in 1994. Don't know if you remember, but there was a heavily-publicized backlash against it in the MSM. All for one chapter of a long academic book on intelligence statistics and class structure in the U.S. by a couple of guys who weren't exactly household names.
  96. I have known a fair number of Subcontinent Asians over the years and have studied their history moderately. Many are moderately intelligent and some are very good at memorization. They are often very pleasant to be around.

    It is rather shocking how they moved into the West in such large numbers and risen to dominant numbers in Tech and Journalism. I suspect HBD factors at play.

    India has been invaded from since before Alexander the Great. The European invasion new only in that it was a new group of invaders. The more intelligent members of the natives learned how to integrate into the system of the invaders and twist their culture to their own needs.

    Now the Indians and Pakistanis and such are moving to the West, and using anti- discrimination systems to rise up. Most would not reach the levels they are without unearned and undeserved affirmative action.

    Given their legacy, they have gone about co-opting anti-discrimination standards to slingshot up. They hold tightly to their “Person of Color” status, even in America where there is no heritage of anti -Hindu discrimination to address.

    The problem is once they arrive at their status levels (often well above their talents and ability), they fight the system to be accommodating to themselves.

    In other words, they are parasitic and ungrateful and hostile to Western civilization. They love the benefits of Western society but hate the Europeans and European culture.

    • Replies: @StripsOfRed
    Check out their home countries and they are unabashed "Racists" and go the whole hog with that. Mere suspicion of beef can get you lynched in India whereas an accusation of blasphemy will do the trick in pakistan

    Funny how these people when they come to the west dog whistle about race. The sub-continent especially the Hindus have absolutely legalized systems of HBD with their pathetic caste system which kept millions under the boot for a couple of millenia.
  97. @anon
    OT:

    Speaking of low-brow journalism, Jorge Ramos's daughter is looking to follow in Dad's footsteps and recently made a short video piece for Vice on how the Meth epidemic is affecting Latinx's in Fresno.

    However, she was so transparent and clumsy in pushing the whole Hispanic aspect of her story that she is getting roasted in the youtube comments.

    I guess the media has learned that you've got to really spell it out for Hispanics: continually remind them they are Hispanic and that they ought to be mad!

    A166, there is a group of writers who explore the effects of something vile on just their chosen few. Whites and opioid deaths, black women and problem pregnancies, meth and hispanics. The last two I listed are big time problems that need to be addressed ASAP. The first one, hey what’s not to like about thinning the white herd.

  98. Anon[770] • Disclaimer says:

    A photo of Steve I’ve never seen before, complete with “prison pussy” beard:

    From a website called Encyclopedia of American Loons. So far 2,200 loons have been documented since 2010. Someone has a lot of free time.

    http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/07/1104-steve-sailer.html

    Hey, another beard photo:

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Rather disappointing selection of loons, never heard of 99% of them in any way at all.
  99. @Unladen Swallow
    Wow, Steve, it only took you twenty years to get mentioned repeatedly in a mainstream "idea" book, albeit one published in the UK. You would think TPTB would have actually published one of your books first before allowing one of their members to critique your work, how could the mainstream reading public even know anything about you and your heretical ideas otherwise? You pretty much had to self publish your Obama bio, the public might actually have to read your blog or Twitter account now. This tactic might actually blow up in their face and have the opposite effect of what was intended, since no one in the elite actually will admit to reading anything you've wrote until now.

    An interesting aside, I know you championed a lot of work by Vincent Sarich earlier in your blogging and that he was the bane of leftist anthropologists everywhere, especially at Cal-Berkeley where he worked, but Sarich actually published scientific papers with Jonathan Marks. I'm guessing that would have been an interesting scientific partnership, since Marks is as you said is a hard doctrinaire leftist.

    They don’t want anyone to know about Steve’s ideas. Not in their raw, uncut form anyway. The fact that John Q. Public has not read a Steve Sailer book means it’s all the easier to use him for their purposes. Not that they could use nothing but humble HBD bloggists, but it’s handy to have a crowd of badthinkers big and small to scorn.

    By the way, the story of why race science paused itself–or was forcibly paused from outside–is infinitely more interesting than the story of its reemergence (if that’s what’s happening). Which was inevitable unless we were prepared to go full Soviet on genetic research and artificial intelligence. Where are the pop-history books on that subject, huh? Huh?

  100. @snorlax
    I doubt there will ever be another major genocide (barring, perhaps, a limited[1] nuclear war) committed by white people. So there's little risk of the Western nationalist right being tarred with another original sin similar to the Holocaust, slavery, historical discrimination, and colonialism[2].

    The main ways the fringe right sabotages the right in general nowadays is not by mega-scale genocide but micro-scale actions like tweeting death/rape threats at lefties and oven memes at Jews and individual macro-scale disasters like Charlottesville and atrocities like Oklahoma City, Breivik, the Pittsburgh synagogue and New Zealand.[3]

    The mega-scale developments that could potentially do within an order of magnitude of the long-term damage to Western civilization as the Holocaust, and that elements of the fringe and semi-fringe (e.g. Sailer) right hope for, come from outside Western governments' direct control, such as the comprehensive geopolitical defeat of the American bloc at the hands of Russia[4] or the far more dire threat of China,[5] or a second US civil war.[6]

    [1] An apocalyptic nuclear war obviously renders right and left irrelevant or nearly so.
    [2] Which includes the phenomena of Apartheid and Israel. I'm personally fairly sympathetic to the latter but it objectively provides a rhetorical stick with which to beat the mainstream Western nationalist right everywhere in the world except, for the time being, America.
    [3] Charlottesville and Pittsburgh cost Republicans the 2018 midterms, in a wave that made no distinction between cucks and the most solid anti-immigration nationalists like Kris Kobach, Dana Rohrabacher, Pete Sessions and Dave Brat, among many others. Steve King was rendered a dead man walking. Coulter and Trump are no longer on speaking terms and Kushner was promoted to de facto Chief of Staff.

    OKC reversed Clinton's poll deficit vs Dole, who would've implemented the Barbara Jordan commission's recommendations. In this counterfactual it's even somewhat possible Buchanan would've been the victorious nominee.
    [4] Russia itself is brutal, extremely corrupt and far more cucked than commonly portrayed,* but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It's their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.

    *Putin has vastly outdone Merkel in facilitating Muslim immivasion, "hate speech" laws are more vigorously enforced than anywhere bar Germany and Sweden, the abortion rate among whites is near the highest in the world and the rate of HIV infection is by far the highest of any white country, making it the literal epicenter of poz.
    [5] The Chinese yoke will in the best case - probably implausibly so - scenario be a 1984 panopticon where a boot stamps on our faces forever.

    The Chinese thoroughly believe in their (arguably real) racial superiority and have been trained to loathe us by years of (false, FWIW) "unequal treaties" and "Opium Wars" propaganda, making the above scenario of equal treatment pretty far-fetched. The most likely scenario for us whites is Generalplan Ost, and the worst case we get turned into biofuel.
    [6] While there could be significant upside, the reverse is also true; our side could lose, or win at the cost of a country reduced to mass starvation and rubble, the above mentioned Chinese yoke and/or the creation of a domestic totalitarian regime that murders millions.

    I agree in general but regarding another major genocide: The accelerating colonization of White countries by non-Whites is the next major genocide. It’s not primarily a violent one, there are no death squads or concentration camps, and the victims are partially responsible because of their low fertility and passive acceptance of the rule of the elites promoting it, but the final objective is still genocide. Racial extermination by absorption.
    Also regarding;
    “ but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It’s their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.”
    No one in that list is bringing ruin to our civilization except the Western Leftists. Latin American Leftists are no threat to anyone except themselves. The Latin American threat is from the ongoing immivasion. The others in that list are threats to Israel, which I regard as an outpost of the West, but are not threats to the rest of the West in general. Rome was still Rome even after losing its outposts on the Elba.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that's hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran's state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is "Death to America!" The line that "death to" is just an idiom for "down with" doesn't hold water; Iran's Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is "down with" much of an improvement on "death to."
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the "Little Satan," whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the "Great Satan," whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.
  101. @Abe
    No day can be a bad day which starts off with a Sailer essay on TAKI’S! Anyway, Steve’s walk down memory lane back to those halcyon late 90’s days when political correctness was in abeyance, the Internet was still fresh and new, and the only woman to have seen Jeff Bezos’s kindle was his mommy, I’m reminded of how surprisingly open-minded and empirical even self-described ultra liberals once were. Saini s a moron and a liar; far from being some sort of ur-Shaitan who singlehandedly seeded the diabolical notion of using emergent genetic science advances to inform our understanding of sociology, economics, etc. in a more race-realist way, Steve’s proposed framework was quite uncontroversial and, with all due respect, not shatteringly original.

    In fact, well before I had ever heard of Steve I remember coming across this essay in uber-progressive SALON.COM, when it actually cared about debate and ideas and was more than a clickbait factory. In fact, this reasonable and open-minded essay/book review which heavily leans on the example of black dominance in particular sports looks like it was straight ripped from a Steve Sailer column:

    https://www.salon.com/2000/01/28/taboo/

    It's no secret that blacks dominate much of the world of sports. In track, the purest test of athletic ability, runners of African descent hold every single men's world record at every standard distance, from the 100 meters (where no non-black athlete has held the world record since 1960) to the marathon. In pro football, the positions that require the greatest combination of speed, power and explosiveness -- wide receiver, cornerback and running back -- are almost entirely played by blacks. In pro basketball -- the sport that requires the greatest combination of leaping ability, power bursts and agility -- almost all the starters and virtually all the superstars are black. In baseball, blacks are also disproportionately represented, although not to the same degree that they are in the more athletically demanding basketball and football.

     

    None of this is news to anyone who watches American sports or track and field -- and it hasn't been news for over 30 years. You have to go back to the early '60s, if not earlier, to find a time when blacks didn't completely dominate basketball and, to a lesser degree, football. The days when NFL teams routinely started two white wide receivers (remember Boyd Dowler and Carrol Dale?) seem as paleolithic as the jump pass and the quick kick.

    Black athletic domination is so accepted today that it's easy to forget how astonishing it is. But what is even more astonishing is that everyone -- with the exception of the athletes themselves -- is afraid to talk in public about it. Even acknowledging that blacks are superior athletes veers uncomfortably close to a question still too traumatic for America's delicate racial sensibilities: Why are they?

    The politically correct answer is that blacks dominate sports not because of a biological advantage, but because of an environmental disadvantage. Black athletic achievement is a direct result of racism: For blacks, athletics was practically the only way out of the ghetto, so they had extraordinary motivation to succeed.

    There is obviously much truth in this answer. Before scoffing at the idea that environment alone could produce so many world-class black athletes, we would do well to remember that cultural and environmental factors are notoriously easy to underestimate. No one suggests that Ashkenazi Jews or Asians are genetically selected to be superior classical musicians, yet they are disproportionately represented in that field. (For that matter, no one suggests that blacks are genetically selected to be virtuoso improvising musicians -- yet they dominate jazz as much as they do football or basketball.) Why not run out looking for Japanese genes that select for flower-arranging, or Southern American Scottish-Irish genes that lead to NASCAR driving?

    Moreover, there are good reasons to wantto believe that black athletic domination has no physiological basis. Science has a long and disreputable history of making false extrapolations from inconclusive hard data -- extrapolations that often merely parrot the prejudices of the age. In the case of blacks, whom whites have perniciously associated with "brute animality" ever since they first encountered them, those prejudices have gone underground, but can be easily reawakened. And certainly with a "soft" social phenomenon like athletic domination, as opposed to a "hard" one like blacks' genetic susceptibility to sickle-cell anemia, hard-science explanations must be looked at with skepticism.

    But setting a world record in the 100 meters is a more quantifiable achievement than ripping through a Rachmaninoff concerto or blowing a trumpet solo on "So What." And as both black athletic domination and our knowledge of genetics, physical anthropology and physiology have grown, it has become increasingly hard to assert that environmental factors alone can explain black superiority in sports.

     

    PC in abeyance in the 90s? That was when the general public was just becoming aware of the term. Also, the Bell Curve was published in 1994. Don’t know if you remember, but there was a heavily-publicized backlash against it in the MSM. All for one chapter of a long academic book on intelligence statistics and class structure in the U.S. by a couple of guys who weren’t exactly household names.

    • Replies: @Abe

    PC in abeyance in the 90s? That was when the general public was just becoming aware of the term.
     
    I remember PC breaking out into general, normie consciousness around 1992, with the rather shocking (to normies, at least) attacks on the Columbus Quincentennial. In any case I remember the abortive (heh) attempts at creating a MeToo’d America 25 years too soon- Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin anti-porn laws, Antioch College consent codes, etc. They were ultimately routed in the public arena, Courtney Love starred in a movie about strange new respect cultural hero Larry Flynn, and Camille Paglia would crow about how she and Madonna led sex-positive feminists to victory in the culture wars for the next generation and a half.
  102. @AnotherDad
    'De Nile is the most popular river in the West. It flows through every capital, through every university town, by every courthouse, every newspaper office, every movie studio. People boat down it, jog and walk beside it, sit and daydream by it, float down it, swim in it, wash in it, drink from it, toss in pennies and wish upon it. They even go down and get baptized in it.

    'De Nile is the modern West. And it is floating us all out to sea.

    Another, I will assume that this is your writing, very nicely done.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
    But Al Franken still gets a nod for his remark "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt!" as his Leonard Smalley character on SNL.
  103. The Indian woman knows from which culture she comes. When she asserts that there are no significant differences between whites, blacks, and other races, that proposition seems to be in service of the belief that all humans should be treated humanely by everyone else, as though they were essentially the same, like one’s relatives. So studies of varying cognition levels between different kinds of people is BadThink.

  104. This tactic might actually blow up in their face and have the opposite effect of what was intended…

    Writing books like this and otherwise publicly renouncing people like Steve Sailer is a giant tactical mistake on the part of TPTB. First, they are at war with observable reality as in the examples that Steve gives of NFL cornerbacks and Olympic sprinters. So, the masses need to constantly be fed the propaganda that all authoritative sources confirm the narrative that race is a social construct, etc.

    Basically, they don’t want you to notice. And most people don’t notice if the idea is never brought up. That people can fail to notice observable reality probably seems crazy to the type of person reading Steve’s blog. But think about it. How many people really buy the line that race is a social construct or that what is holding back blacks is structural racism, etc.? Quite a few. It’s like the Gell-Mann Effect. Most people aren’t really engaged in this stuff and all they ever hear is the narrative.

    If they start hearing about people like Steve Sailer or some kind of genius scientists questioning the official narrative, people may think “Could there be something to what this Sailer guy is talking about?” If that person starts questioning and thinking about this stuff for the first time, he’s already halfway to accepting HBD. Observable reality is a huge built in advantage for HBD thought. But a person has to actually observe reality or start noticing. The official narrative is like a dam. If the dam is removed, the water flows easily.

    People like the author of this book can’t win a logical debate. They’d be crazy to get in one. Instead of trying to refute the likes of Steve Sailer, they’d be much better off just calling anyone who disagrees a bad name like “racist” and holding such heretics as not worthy of even being named.

  105. @snorlax
    I doubt there will ever be another major genocide (barring, perhaps, a limited[1] nuclear war) committed by white people. So there's little risk of the Western nationalist right being tarred with another original sin similar to the Holocaust, slavery, historical discrimination, and colonialism[2].

    The main ways the fringe right sabotages the right in general nowadays is not by mega-scale genocide but micro-scale actions like tweeting death/rape threats at lefties and oven memes at Jews and individual macro-scale disasters like Charlottesville and atrocities like Oklahoma City, Breivik, the Pittsburgh synagogue and New Zealand.[3]

    The mega-scale developments that could potentially do within an order of magnitude of the long-term damage to Western civilization as the Holocaust, and that elements of the fringe and semi-fringe (e.g. Sailer) right hope for, come from outside Western governments' direct control, such as the comprehensive geopolitical defeat of the American bloc at the hands of Russia[4] or the far more dire threat of China,[5] or a second US civil war.[6]

    [1] An apocalyptic nuclear war obviously renders right and left irrelevant or nearly so.
    [2] Which includes the phenomena of Apartheid and Israel. I'm personally fairly sympathetic to the latter but it objectively provides a rhetorical stick with which to beat the mainstream Western nationalist right everywhere in the world except, for the time being, America.
    [3] Charlottesville and Pittsburgh cost Republicans the 2018 midterms, in a wave that made no distinction between cucks and the most solid anti-immigration nationalists like Kris Kobach, Dana Rohrabacher, Pete Sessions and Dave Brat, among many others. Steve King was rendered a dead man walking. Coulter and Trump are no longer on speaking terms and Kushner was promoted to de facto Chief of Staff.

    OKC reversed Clinton's poll deficit vs Dole, who would've implemented the Barbara Jordan commission's recommendations. In this counterfactual it's even somewhat possible Buchanan would've been the victorious nominee.
    [4] Russia itself is brutal, extremely corrupt and far more cucked than commonly portrayed,* but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It's their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.

    *Putin has vastly outdone Merkel in facilitating Muslim immivasion, "hate speech" laws are more vigorously enforced than anywhere bar Germany and Sweden, the abortion rate among whites is near the highest in the world and the rate of HIV infection is by far the highest of any white country, making it the literal epicenter of poz.
    [5] The Chinese yoke will in the best case - probably implausibly so - scenario be a 1984 panopticon where a boot stamps on our faces forever.

    The Chinese thoroughly believe in their (arguably real) racial superiority and have been trained to loathe us by years of (false, FWIW) "unequal treaties" and "Opium Wars" propaganda, making the above scenario of equal treatment pretty far-fetched. The most likely scenario for us whites is Generalplan Ost, and the worst case we get turned into biofuel.
    [6] While there could be significant upside, the reverse is also true; our side could lose, or win at the cost of a country reduced to mass starvation and rubble, the above mentioned Chinese yoke and/or the creation of a domestic totalitarian regime that murders millions.

    I don’t know of the rest, but Rohrabacher lost because of democrats going door-to-door in his district and harvesting ballots. Something newly legal in California and not legal anywhere else in the US.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yeah, California elections are basically Ferdinand Marcos-tier at this point, but still his loss was narrow enough that he'd have won without Charlottesville and Pittsburgh. And another Republican who was also solid on immigration came within fractions of a percent of making the runoff, thus guaranteeing an immigration-skeptic GOP win.
  106. In an old review Sailer dismisses philsopher David Stove’s argument that women have lower intellectual capacity on the grounds that women’s IQ has lower variance, so there are fewer exceptional women at the top and bottom ends. I wonder if this argument is still viable. Down’s syndrome is slightly more common among males (106-100 or 125-100) but math professorships are presumably more common among males by a much higher factor. Is it just sex-stereotyping, or just that girls don’t like math?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    I'm married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social ("nurture") influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject -- and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    We males are just more likely to be extreme in one sense or another. That carries both benefits and risks. Women bear children and nurture them, so they have to be a more stable element overall.
    , @Logan
    I think it's widely accepted that males in all kinds of species have greater variance, on the quite logical notion that evolution can experiment with males much more safely than with females. One human male, for instance, could probably keep 100 women consistently pregnant. Men are disposable, from an evolutionary perspective. If some of your experiments fail, no biggie.

    It's also widely accepted that the male IQ Bell Curve is shorter and wider. Many more below 60 or 70 IQ and a LOT more high IQ males.

    In the range 130 to 150, for instance, males outnumber females 2.5:1.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/10/02/sorry-girls-but-the-smartest-people-in-the-world-are-all-men/

    The disproportion gets greater the higher you go. Over 170 it is about 10:1, etc.

    Some significant caveats.

    These are calculated, not measured. IQ may not be distributed in a perfect standard distribtion.

    Out on the right side of the IQ scale, measurement gets a LOT more difficult and less accurate. I myself once took two proctored IQ tests back to back. 134 on the first one, 176 on the second. (Strongly suspect the first one was more accurate.)

    There are very, very few people out there on the far right side of the curve, from any of the 57 genders.

  107. @Jim Christian
    Picture os a suspect who shot a cabby 9 times in the middle of Boston. The Globe posted this for a supposed mug-shot of the captured suspect:
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/g8Yecp00faP_3YmLyZF8I2cUDrc=/960x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2TYNZREHVUI6TC7Q6Q6CVKTE5M.jpg

    The article: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/05/man-who-allegedly-shot-boston-cabbie-back-bay-due-court/1SFHxYKilwU6qtnlRBMIGM/story.html#comment-92398086

    Superior, right.

    looks like he is a white-black similar to how zimmerman was a white-hispanic

  108. @Buffalo Joe
    Another, I will assume that this is your writing, very nicely done.

    But Al Franken still gets a nod for his remark “Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt!” as his Leonard Smalley character on SNL.

  109. Nice shout out from Powerline, Steve! Those guys are still sort of borderline respectables so, kudos. They’re probably reading a cautionary but strongly worded rebuke in their e-mail from Jon Podhoretz at this very moment! Nevertheless, this is progress!

  110. @AnotherDad

    Not the batboy, but somebody who knows all the players.
    If we laymen reading on the periphery matter at all, you are performing an important job by observing all the plays and reporting them to us.
    Ah, you are the announcer — in California.
     
    Agree with the sentiment. Steve isn't a batboy, but he's not just Vin Scully either.

    He's been critical in confronting the stupidity of the reigning ideology, calling out it's contradictions, encouraging clear thought and spreading "the emperor has no clothes" word.

    There is no ready sports--or at least baseball--analogy. Not just announcer, but analyst and coach as well. Steve is huge in getting the West back on side.

    I agree. I just couldn’t come up with a better analogy (because I can’t write and analyze as well as Steve. LOL)

    BTW, I wish I could read whatever he and those invited intellectuals write in his invitation-only discussion group. I trust he distills it and pours it into this blog for the rest of us to drink.

    It definitely can’t be like the Bud Light piss “beer” he says he drinks! LOL (I just took Murray’s “Bubble Test” and scored 19, but somehow I think I am not as insulated as my score indicates.)

    • Replies: @Kylie
    I scored 32 on Murray's "Bubble Test" and no way am I as insulated as my score indicated.
  111. OFF TOPIC — related to race differences

    Culture is downstream from biological and genetic RACE.

    I listen to this sometimes, and now Scottish guy Tweets it — spooky.

    The NSA and the Virginia Company and the Company and the American Empire are all reliant on monetary policy — it’s true!

    • Replies: @Logan
    The problem with this idea is that European classical music is spectacularly popular in China.
  112. Official YouTube Blog:

    Our ongoing work to tackle hate

    ******
    Today, we’re taking another step in our hate speech policy by specifically prohibiting videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status.

    So….if it’s not to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion, then it’s okay to allege that a group is superior?

    H/T: Lion of the Blogosphere

  113. @jack daniels
    In an old review Sailer dismisses philsopher David Stove's argument that women have lower intellectual capacity on the grounds that women's IQ has lower variance, so there are fewer exceptional women at the top and bottom ends. I wonder if this argument is still viable. Down's syndrome is slightly more common among males (106-100 or 125-100) but math professorships are presumably more common among males by a much higher factor. Is it just sex-stereotyping, or just that girls don't like math?

    I’m married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social (“nurture”) influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject — and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    We males are just more likely to be extreme in one sense or another. That carries both benefits and risks. Women bear children and nurture them, so they have to be a more stable element overall.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    I’m married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social (“nurture”) influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject — and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.
     
    Women who are gender-nonconforming, whether in a specific or a general way, are well aware of the fact, and it doesn't hurt our feelings. Nor do we need anyone to pretend we are gender-typical when we are not. The SJW busybodies who go around shaming noticers actually just cause us more grief than anything.
    , @Anonymous
    Even if abilities were identically distributed, women could be under-represented among math professors just because of different attitudes towards risk. Even if person manages to complete a doctorate, they still need to slog through years in low-paid postdoc positions before sniffing a tenure-track position. Then they need to get tenure. It represents a huge invest for a very uncertain reward at the end. Many women probably view a career in industry as more certain.
    , @Olorin
    The other element of this is that women, being more norm-clustered, are vicious to women who are genuine outliers. Not Elizabeth Holmes-type outliers (lies and batted eyes), but actual geeky gals who can hold their own on actual geeky teams that produce real stuff under budget and on time.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women, even though there were fewer women than men in her field. (Probably not the case today.) She has many stories about seeing an excellent hire being advanced then cut off at the knees by a jealous, inferior supervisor. She considers PC to be excuses whereby women make sure excellence is destroyed in the name of normalcy--with normalcy itself being massively redefined over the past 40 years.

    That's a lot of power to have.

    I may have related this before: she related once finding herself in an impromptu bitch party among female colleagues at one job, involving how horrible men are, and how all men are rapists, constantly harassing women in the workplace, etc., with the ensuing floods of stories about this.

    She says that she sat there listening with nothing to say, till someone noted that with the suspicious gaze of the snoopy neighbor who whiffs nonconformity.

    She replied that she had nothing to contribute, since she had never had any experience like this. A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn't ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    The other females were visibly irritated by this, with one opining that of course the men she worked with weren't attracted to her enough to want to harass and grope and conquer and humiliate and rape her, since she was married. Married women aren't attractive, "particularly breeder types."

    She said to me that it was such a sad twisty mixture of envy and anger and truth and confusion and outright sad frustrated sexual yearning that she just nodded and said they were no doubt right.

    Not bothering, as I would have, to belabor the point a) that she wasn't married when this happened and b) of how married women get chosen in the first place.

    That's no doubt where the Being Female/social skills part comes in: I would have felt the urge to correct the particulars of their stupidity. But she's both humanly canny...and a generous soul: they went home to their cats that night feeling like femmes fatales and superheroes. Unattractive/undesirable she went home to her home, husband, and family. They could dream their dreamy Pound Me Too dreams while she engages in the horror of a loving, normal, abundant daily life.

    Though we talk often about what "normal" means. We're both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years' white-on-white civil war of the 20th century. She calls the 21st century the Refugium Age.

  114. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    You missed the most essential point!

    We all know that “science” consists of words both expected and welcomed by Punjabi Pundit Princesses.

  115. these population groups had this seventy thousand years apart during which they adapted to their own different environments.

    Reich implies that natural selection may have acted on them differently within this timescale to produce changes that go further than skin deep.

    The scientist’s sacrilege causes the scandalized journalist to harrumph:

    They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.

    “may have acted” ????

    Siberian silver foxes were bread to domesticity in less than 20 generations. 70,000 years is approximately 3500 generations in stable, yet reliably lethal in different ways to the maladapted, environments. Selection must have happened. It is ludicrous to believe otherwise. The “otherwise” belief is called “Liberal Creationism”.

    • Replies: @anon
    Liberal Creationism, that's good. Just a celestial Henry Ford cranking out Model T's from the assembly line. But only some of them are painted black.
  116. @Buzz Mohawk
    I'm married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social ("nurture") influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject -- and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    We males are just more likely to be extreme in one sense or another. That carries both benefits and risks. Women bear children and nurture them, so they have to be a more stable element overall.

    I’m married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social (“nurture”) influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject — and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    Women who are gender-nonconforming, whether in a specific or a general way, are well aware of the fact, and it doesn’t hurt our feelings. Nor do we need anyone to pretend we are gender-typical when we are not. The SJW busybodies who go around shaming noticers actually just cause us more grief than anything.

    • Replies: @Cloudswrest
    Quote regarding Emmy Noether.

    I can testify that she [Emmy Noether] is a great mathematician, but that she is a woman, I cannot swear.
    — Edmund Landau
  117. @Alfa158
    I agree in general but regarding another major genocide: The accelerating colonization of White countries by non-Whites is the next major genocide. It’s not primarily a violent one, there are no death squads or concentration camps, and the victims are partially responsible because of their low fertility and passive acceptance of the rule of the elites promoting it, but the final objective is still genocide. Racial extermination by absorption.
    Also regarding;
    “ but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It’s their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.”
    No one in that list is bringing ruin to our civilization except the Western Leftists. Latin American Leftists are no threat to anyone except themselves. The Latin American threat is from the ongoing immivasion. The others in that list are threats to Israel, which I regard as an outpost of the West, but are not threats to the rest of the West in general. Rome was still Rome even after losing its outposts on the Elba.

    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that’s hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran’s state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is “Death to America!” The line that “death to” is just an idiom for “down with” doesn’t hold water; Iran’s Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is “down with” much of an improvement on “death to.”
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the “Little Satan,” whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the “Great Satan,” whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.

    • Replies: @Logan
    the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west, so I'm not sure how they'd work that out.
    , @Logan
    Also wonder if SF qualifies as the most sinful city in the world.

    Surely Vegas is is in the running. I'm sure other cities are competitive.
    , @nebulafox
    • Iran’s state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is “Death to America!” The line that “death to” is just an idiom for “down with” doesn’t hold water; Iran’s Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is “down with” much of an improvement on “death to.”

    Cultural Revolution-era China said a lot of existentially hostile things about the West and armed tons of nasty, dangerous, ideologically-motivated people around the globe, too. That didn't stop Mao from ultimately realizing that China wasn't going to become a global power in his time period and that Nixon could offer them a lot more than his revisionist rivals in Moscow could.

    And that was during the late phases of the "psychopathic ideologue in charge" phase. It's been decades since Khomeini died.

    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.

    Correct. But ultimately irrelevant. We're not getting out of that damned region without coming to some sort of accord with the Persians, who are going to be around for a long time after the Saud house of cards collapses. They want us gone ASAP so they can focus on their real goal of becoming the regional champ, which has been the Persian game for millennia.

    What's more, they aren't the ones actively exporting Wahhabi beliefs like a cancer, inside and outside of the Islamic World. They also aren't the ones who had an intelligence service that sheltered Bin Laden himself.

    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.

    But the Iranians tellingly generally keep their active terrorist activities confined to direct sectarian conflicts in the region that we have a nasty habit of getting ourselves involved in, or to knocking off regionally-related people they don't like, from Saudi ambassadors to Kurdish dissidents.

    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.

    Nowadays, though, it seems far more interested in its own Shi'a particularism and ethnic nationalism (with the obligatory racial contempt for Arabs), however much it might flirt with radical Sunni groups whenever it deems it beneficial. Quite a change from the 1980s. Ideologies come and go. Culture is much harder to eradicate: the Maoists (just like their Taiping heroes) tried it in China, and ultimately failed to achieve their ambitions. It's not shocking that the mullahs didn't get as far as they wanted either.

    >Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    Moreso than the Soviet Union, who had a far more formidable nuclear arsenal than anything the mullahs could ever dream of, actually put men in space, and who we came close to blowing up the world with multiple times?

    It's a serious threat to Israel and Saudi Arabia. Why that is the same as being a serious threat to the USA has never been clarified by our leaders. The reality is, Iran has perfectly rational, non-"come on Mahdi, come back!"reasons for wanting the bomb, looking at its history and who it is surrounded by. The Shah wanted the bomb too, as MOSSAD and the CIA both well knew, and I'd bet anything the Safavids, if plopped in this time period, wouldn't be doing much differently in working for one.
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    The leadership has clarified on multiple occasions that their chant is directed primarily at the officials in the government administrations of the United States, and not the average man or women from the citizenry. Hezbollah is merely and only a defensive organization which was formed initially for the sake of liberation, and sure in the beginning at least, moving towards a theocratic state but they have long done away with that. Nasrallah himself has reinstated the alcohol laws and removed the prohibitions on them, and he has discontinued the legislation regarding mandatory headscarves. Their own clerical and other general religious leaders have themselves repudiates the idea of a theocratic state, describing it as unfeasible, and even going as far as to say that those who desire such a government should "go to the Islamic Republic(Iran)". There is absolutely no proof, that is reputable at least, that Iran did the Lockerbie bombings or any of the other ones you listed. They are obviously castigated for the failures of the security apparatus(es?) Of the US intelligence services and they are scapegoated as the tensions and hostilities between these two countries exist, and they do so heatedly. Oh and the Khobar Towers were a military target, no? Were they or were they not housing military personnel as part of the US campaign in Iraq that were inflicting no-fly zones(tm) in the southern region of thr country? It's a rhetorical question, the answer is undoubtably a YES!! The Iran hostage crisis was the result of blowback as it is and was readily acknowledged by the CIA and other members of the relevant alphabet agencies. No one was killed, and it was a result of the anger that was overflowing as a result of the escape of the corrupt and despotic Shah, who (of course), was an American puppet, who was militarilly and politically propped up by them. SAVAK, the secret police of the Shah, was also armed and trained by Israel, and this group itself tortured and inflicted pain upon its prisoners in the modt gruesome ways. The hostility towards Israel is partially as a result of this. They have not invaded a country for a century plus, in fact, it was the other way around. "Harbourijg Al Qaeda" this is easily the most outrageous thibg I've read. Al Qaeda and its plethora of other cancerous affiliates consider Shia(Iran) to be apostates, and they have engaged in genocidal campaigns in Afghanistan against the Shia Hazaras(which makes it easy for them as the Hazaras have unique facial features and phenotypes and whatnot which make them distinctly discernible from other Afghans). They have never shielded these terrorists nor funded them, as opposed to America's allt Saudi Arabia, who has actively provided them with support. That claim was embarrassingly off the mark, it's quite pathetic, really. If America gets to intrude into foreign lands under the laughable pretense of "human rights"... Iran must intervene in Iraq and Syria and whatnot and they must convene their "proxies" as American hegemonic influence is their biggest existential threat, as it always has been. They remember the Shah, and they certainly remember 1957. If Jewmerica gets to invade nations thousands of miles away from them, then Iran has the right to go into their immediate neighbours for the sole purpose of peace and defense. Your comment is in all honesty, a shockingly inaccurate and misguided one. Deprogramming is absolutely needed in your situation
  118. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:

    Why exactly are South Asian websites so interested in power-couples from their own race? I thought race didn’t exist.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude

    race
     
    *caste
  119. @Rosie

    I’m married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social (“nurture”) influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject — and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.
     
    Women who are gender-nonconforming, whether in a specific or a general way, are well aware of the fact, and it doesn't hurt our feelings. Nor do we need anyone to pretend we are gender-typical when we are not. The SJW busybodies who go around shaming noticers actually just cause us more grief than anything.

    Quote regarding Emmy Noether.

    I can testify that she [Emmy Noether] is a great mathematician, but that she is a woman, I cannot swear.
    — Edmund Landau

    • LOL: Rosie
  120. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I'm married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social ("nurture") influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject -- and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    We males are just more likely to be extreme in one sense or another. That carries both benefits and risks. Women bear children and nurture them, so they have to be a more stable element overall.

    Even if abilities were identically distributed, women could be under-represented among math professors just because of different attitudes towards risk. Even if person manages to complete a doctorate, they still need to slog through years in low-paid postdoc positions before sniffing a tenure-track position. Then they need to get tenure. It represents a huge invest for a very uncertain reward at the end. Many women probably view a career in industry as more certain.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife was on the Ph.D. track toward a full professorship in a then-very-recently communist country until she found out she could live better doing almost anything in the United States.
  121. @James Bowery
    My understanding is that British libel law places the burden of proof on the defendant, even if it is claimed that those libeled are "public figures". This isn't to say Sailer has standing to be a plaintiff under British libel laws or even if he did that anything resembling a true judiciary remains in GB...

    English libel law. So if you want to defame someone do it in Scotland.

  122. @nebulafox
    You could do way worse than Sikhs.

    You could do way worse than Sikhs.

    If they can carry their daggers, I can carry my gun.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude

    If they can carry their daggers
     
    We actually had a pretty major case about this--https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/15/index.do Multani vs Commision scolaires Marguerite. This actually reached our Supreme Court, which is, as the name suggests, the most important court of the land.They were basically contemplating on whether it infringed on his Religious Rights(enshrined in our Charter of Rights, section 2a), and whether or not denying him the courtesy of wearing this kirpan could be permitted under the reasonable limits clause aforementioned in the section preceding the "Fundamental Freedoms" segment. Multani actually won out in the end, and he was allowed to bring his sharp and shiny piece of metallic death to school from then on. Mclachlin was sitting on the Supreme Court then so ughhh... Thank God she's not there anymore. I do not think they should've ruled in his favour, as this bout of gratitude far exceeds the leeway that should be afforded to students carrying weapons to a public space. Why should anybody of any faith be allowed to bring with themselves to their workplace or school weapons which may/can be used to inflict serious bodily harm upon another person? You can't even use dimwitted arguments like "oh but anything can be used to harm other people" to muddy the waters because a kirpan is literally a miniature dagger which is to be used for fights and other violent altercations. It's explicit purpose, it's main application is a violent one, to be utilized to injure others. Look, the Sikhs and I are on great terms, and I've been to many weddings and we are close etc etc, but this is really a no-brainer. The reasonable limits clause was primarily implemented for situations like this, and 'tis quite nonsensical that the Supreme Court would actually reward this mockery, instead of logically nullifying the whole case. What a total farce.
  123. Julie Adams experiencing the Gill-Man effect, i.e. BLOOD-GURGLING TERROR!

  124. @Anonymous
    Even if abilities were identically distributed, women could be under-represented among math professors just because of different attitudes towards risk. Even if person manages to complete a doctorate, they still need to slog through years in low-paid postdoc positions before sniffing a tenure-track position. Then they need to get tenure. It represents a huge invest for a very uncertain reward at the end. Many women probably view a career in industry as more certain.

    My wife was on the Ph.D. track toward a full professorship in a then-very-recently communist country until she found out she could live better doing almost anything in the United States.

  125. @Amigo
    I don't know of the rest, but Rohrabacher lost because of democrats going door-to-door in his district and harvesting ballots. Something newly legal in California and not legal anywhere else in the US.

    Yeah, California elections are basically Ferdinand Marcos-tier at this point, but still his loss was narrow enough that he’d have won without Charlottesville and Pittsburgh. And another Republican who was also solid on immigration came within fractions of a percent of making the runoff, thus guaranteeing an immigration-skeptic GOP win.

  126. @Anon
    A photo of Steve I've never seen before, complete with "prison pussy" beard:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kgZ1DZsqx84/U7WcyOPunGI/AAAAAAAACrk/mytQvhOBkeU/s1600/Steve_Sailer_Portrait_9_size_12.jpg

    From a website called Encyclopedia of American Loons. So far 2,200 loons have been documented since 2010. Someone has a lot of free time.

    http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/07/1104-steve-sailer.html

    Hey, another beard photo:

    https://oneway2day.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/steve-sailer-2.jpg

    Rather disappointing selection of loons, never heard of 99% of them in any way at all.

  127. Anonymous[842] • Disclaimer says:

    If Saini is into equality, why is it so important for her(and her kind) to become ‘British’ than remain Indian with her own kind? If she believes all people are equal, she should go live in India. Or move to Africa. Why is her favored destination for residence and identity a white nation? Her actions imply her conviction that whites are indeed superior and she wants to be with them(even over her own kind).

    • Replies: @Semperluctor
    Sailer reports that her position is,in effect, that since Brits are ‘invaders’ who arrived in Britain 4500 years ago, then there is no reason why N. Indians cannot come to Britain and ‘become ‘ British.. Hooray, I say, for assimilation, that is indeed what immigrants should do, they should assimilate to the host country.
    However, it also begs another question...imagine that she had stayed in India, but she and her husband dressed, and spoke, and acted in all respects as Brits...would she ‘be’ as British as a Brit whose family had lived in England for 2000 years? The answer is clearly not. Steve’s point that races are extended families of related people has great validity. She and her husband might act, and might be, culturally British, but she would never be ur-British. By way of another example; were Eyptians or Persians and other conquered peoples who adopted Greek /Macedonian ways considers to be Greek? The answer is not. They might be considered to have become culturally Greek, but they were not racially Greek, and nobody at the time would have thought differently. If they had, Persia would have conquered Greece, as the Greeks would not have considered themselves to have been a distinct people, with the right to their own country, their own laws and customs. That in the end is the rub; when a country becomes weak, and degenerates, it loses the interest, of the ability, to defn3d itself. The end is either a quick invasion and defeat, or a slow moving invasion and still a defeat, of lesser violence. Either way, a replacement.
  128. @stillCARealist
    Vincent Sarich was at UCB when I was there. He got quoted in the Daily Cal (the campus free commie rag) at a debate about the genetic roots of homosexuality. "How could there be a gene for homosexuality? How the hell would it perpetuate itself?" It generated plenty of discussion, I'll tell you. No way would any such commie rag publish that quote today.

    They actually have an evolutionary strategy mapped out.

    The homosexual in this theory is more attached to his brother’s and sister’s children, helps raise them and therefore they are more likely to survive. So his genes survive even if not directly from him.

    The idea is that this is like the wolf pack where only the alpha pair breed.

    All hooey. Much more likely that there is no homo gene, that when it’s inborn it’s due to hormonal or other non-genetic effects during pregnancy, essentially a type of non-genetic birth defect.

  129. jon says:
    @R.G. Camara
    I hate and usually forget the term "Gell-Man Effect" right after I've searched for it and used it in a discussion. It's incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    I'm surprised Crichton, a wordsmith, promoted it, but then again, he was an author used to having a full-length novel to explore his ideas, not an ad man or meme creator or comedian searching for a quick zinger to sear into your brain.

    "Newspaper Amnesia" is much more memorable and easier to get intuitively, so its what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering. I'm sure Trump could create and nail a better version, if so required.

    I hate and usually forget the term “Gell-Man Effect” right after I’ve searched for it and used it in a discussion. It’s incredibly unmemorable, sloppy, boring, and not catchy at all.

    what I use in my Sapir-Whorf rendering

    So do you find Sapir-Whorf to be a memorable, tidy, exciting, and catchy?

  130. @snorlax
    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that's hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran's state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is "Death to America!" The line that "death to" is just an idiom for "down with" doesn't hold water; Iran's Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is "down with" much of an improvement on "death to."
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the "Little Satan," whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the "Great Satan," whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.

    the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west, so I’m not sure how they’d work that out.

    • Replies: @snorlax

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west
     
    Well yeah, the Earth is a sphere so that's what "as far as possible to the east."

    In any case, Iran's rulers believe that the Antichrist and his Satan-worshiping forces, with whom they will fight an apocalyptic battle, will appear to their east. It's reasonable to surmise that they believe the Antichrist will appear in the country they call the "Little Satan" or the so-called "Great Satan," since those are the only two "Satans." Of the two, America is the only one of which any part is to the east of any place historically populated by Shia Muslims.

    so I’m not sure how they’d work that out
     
    The Ayatollahs came to power in 1979 and not 1579, so I assume they would consult their Rand McNally atlas, or nowadays a website like the one I linked to.
  131. @James Bowery
    My understanding is that British libel law places the burden of proof on the defendant, even if it is claimed that those libeled are "public figures". This isn't to say Sailer has standing to be a plaintiff under British libel laws or even if he did that anything resembling a true judiciary remains in GB...

    James, I think the novel “QB VII”, which was excellent, dealt with British libel laws.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    QB VII was about Irish quarterback Ken O'Brien. O'Brien was born in New York.

    Good Irishman Ken O'Brien -- as opposed to corrupt government worker Leprechaun dirtbags Comey and Brennan and General Casey -- led the New York Jets to victory over Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins in a 51-45 over time game in 1986.

    https://twitter.com/BackAftaThis/status/1024464471186653184
    , @Old Prude
    QB VII was a typical Uris novel: Super Jew saves well-meaning, but hapless goyim.
  132. jon says:

    Saini, a pleasant-looking lady who is part of a London media “power couple”

    From the link to her bio, it says that she won the Phsics World Book of the Year award for her book Inferior: How Science Got Women Wrong-and the New Research That’s Rewriting the Story. So that’s the state of science-for-the-masses today, a boring feminist rant against the biological differences between men and women was the best book written in the world ofphysics in 2017. As Trump would say: Sad!

  133. Abe says:
    @guest
    PC in abeyance in the 90s? That was when the general public was just becoming aware of the term. Also, the Bell Curve was published in 1994. Don't know if you remember, but there was a heavily-publicized backlash against it in the MSM. All for one chapter of a long academic book on intelligence statistics and class structure in the U.S. by a couple of guys who weren't exactly household names.

    PC in abeyance in the 90s? That was when the general public was just becoming aware of the term.

    I remember PC breaking out into general, normie consciousness around 1992, with the rather shocking (to normies, at least) attacks on the Columbus Quincentennial. In any case I remember the abortive (heh) attempts at creating a MeToo’d America 25 years too soon- Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin anti-porn laws, Antioch College consent codes, etc. They were ultimately routed in the public arena, Courtney Love starred in a movie about strange new respect cultural hero Larry Flynn, and Camille Paglia would crow about how she and Madonna led sex-positive feminists to victory in the culture wars for the next generation and a half.

  134. @snorlax
    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that's hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran's state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is "Death to America!" The line that "death to" is just an idiom for "down with" doesn't hold water; Iran's Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is "down with" much of an improvement on "death to."
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the "Little Satan," whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the "Great Satan," whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.

    Also wonder if SF qualifies as the most sinful city in the world.

    Surely Vegas is is in the running. I’m sure other cities are competitive.

    • Replies: @snorlax

    Also wonder if SF qualifies as the most sinful city in the world. Surely Vegas is is in the running.
     
    That's very tolerant of you, but the Mullahs are a bit slower to embrace the Pride Month festivities.
  135. @Charon
    I'd pay to see a baseball game (or in fact any sort of competition) with a team like that. Together they'd have the sense to propose that we stop wrecking this nation, and with Einstein on the team they could even travel back in time, say 50 or 60 years, and prevent its happening in the first place.

    I’d pay to see a baseball game (or in fact any sort of competition) with a team like that.

    How about famous philosophers playing soccer:
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=7E_8EjoxY7Q

  136. @snorlax
    I doubt there will ever be another major genocide (barring, perhaps, a limited[1] nuclear war) committed by white people. So there's little risk of the Western nationalist right being tarred with another original sin similar to the Holocaust, slavery, historical discrimination, and colonialism[2].

    The main ways the fringe right sabotages the right in general nowadays is not by mega-scale genocide but micro-scale actions like tweeting death/rape threats at lefties and oven memes at Jews and individual macro-scale disasters like Charlottesville and atrocities like Oklahoma City, Breivik, the Pittsburgh synagogue and New Zealand.[3]

    The mega-scale developments that could potentially do within an order of magnitude of the long-term damage to Western civilization as the Holocaust, and that elements of the fringe and semi-fringe (e.g. Sailer) right hope for, come from outside Western governments' direct control, such as the comprehensive geopolitical defeat of the American bloc at the hands of Russia[4] or the far more dire threat of China,[5] or a second US civil war.[6]

    [1] An apocalyptic nuclear war obviously renders right and left irrelevant or nearly so.
    [2] Which includes the phenomena of Apartheid and Israel. I'm personally fairly sympathetic to the latter but it objectively provides a rhetorical stick with which to beat the mainstream Western nationalist right everywhere in the world except, for the time being, America.
    [3] Charlottesville and Pittsburgh cost Republicans the 2018 midterms, in a wave that made no distinction between cucks and the most solid anti-immigration nationalists like Kris Kobach, Dana Rohrabacher, Pete Sessions and Dave Brat, among many others. Steve King was rendered a dead man walking. Coulter and Trump are no longer on speaking terms and Kushner was promoted to de facto Chief of Staff.

    OKC reversed Clinton's poll deficit vs Dole, who would've implemented the Barbara Jordan commission's recommendations. In this counterfactual it's even somewhat possible Buchanan would've been the victorious nominee.
    [4] Russia itself is brutal, extremely corrupt and far more cucked than commonly portrayed,* but not really a major threat to our civilization as we know it. It's their allies such as the Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Muslim Brotherhood axis, North Korea and Western (e.g. BLM, Corbyn) and Latin American (e.g. Cuba, Maduro) far-leftists whose collective ascendancy may bring ruin.

    *Putin has vastly outdone Merkel in facilitating Muslim immivasion, "hate speech" laws are more vigorously enforced than anywhere bar Germany and Sweden, the abortion rate among whites is near the highest in the world and the rate of HIV infection is by far the highest of any white country, making it the literal epicenter of poz.
    [5] The Chinese yoke will in the best case - probably implausibly so - scenario be a 1984 panopticon where a boot stamps on our faces forever.

    The Chinese thoroughly believe in their (arguably real) racial superiority and have been trained to loathe us by years of (false, FWIW) "unequal treaties" and "Opium Wars" propaganda, making the above scenario of equal treatment pretty far-fetched. The most likely scenario for us whites is Generalplan Ost, and the worst case we get turned into biofuel.
    [6] While there could be significant upside, the reverse is also true; our side could lose, or win at the cost of a country reduced to mass starvation and rubble, the above mentioned Chinese yoke and/or the creation of a domestic totalitarian regime that murders millions.

    years of (false, FWIW) “unequal treaties” and “Opium Wars” propaganda

    I would say not entirely false, but certainly very one-sided.

    As the Crusades are normally represented as evil Christians aggressing against Muslims for no particular reason. That story is part of the truth, but leaves out so much it’s deceptive, often intentionally so.

    Similarly, the story of the collapse of the Qing over the course of the 19th century and resulting exploitation by Euros is a more complex story than that told by the Chinese today.

    The Qing collapse was remarkably rapid. In 1800 neither the Chinese nor Euros thought of China a greatly inferior. By 1842 their military was useless.

  137. @Interested Bystander
    Regarding sprinting, my favorite story is that the fastest white guy EVER chose to skip the 100 meter sprint at the 2012 Olympics because he knew he wouldn’t be competitive. (He did make the 200 meter final, which is impressive.) But race still isn’t real.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Lemaitre

    …and he also doesn’t hold the french national record for the 100meters. It’s held by, GET THIS, a black guy!

  138. @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC -- related to race differences

    Culture is downstream from biological and genetic RACE.

    I listen to this sometimes, and now Scottish guy Tweets it -- spooky.

    The NSA and the Virginia Company and the Company and the American Empire are all reliant on monetary policy -- it's true!

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1136293321763041281

    The problem with this idea is that European classical music is spectacularly popular in China.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Used to listen to shortwave, caught the PRC's station one night. They went into a classical music program. I thought "this will be garbage", but it was pretty good.
  139. steve still doesn’t get it.

    i’m starting to think he can’t because ‘tarded.

    i’ll try one more time and then give up.

    humans are the social animal par excellence.

    the hypothetical innate potential of the individual human is meaningless.

    meaningful is the VOLK and the VOLKSGEMEINSCHAFT.

    —actual BGI volunteer, and actual nazi, banned by (((unz)))

  140. @jack daniels
    In an old review Sailer dismisses philsopher David Stove's argument that women have lower intellectual capacity on the grounds that women's IQ has lower variance, so there are fewer exceptional women at the top and bottom ends. I wonder if this argument is still viable. Down's syndrome is slightly more common among males (106-100 or 125-100) but math professorships are presumably more common among males by a much higher factor. Is it just sex-stereotyping, or just that girls don't like math?

    I think it’s widely accepted that males in all kinds of species have greater variance, on the quite logical notion that evolution can experiment with males much more safely than with females. One human male, for instance, could probably keep 100 women consistently pregnant. Men are disposable, from an evolutionary perspective. If some of your experiments fail, no biggie.

    It’s also widely accepted that the male IQ Bell Curve is shorter and wider. Many more below 60 or 70 IQ and a LOT more high IQ males.

    In the range 130 to 150, for instance, males outnumber females 2.5:1.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/10/02/sorry-girls-but-the-smartest-people-in-the-world-are-all-men/

    The disproportion gets greater the higher you go. Over 170 it is about 10:1, etc.

    Some significant caveats.

    These are calculated, not measured. IQ may not be distributed in a perfect standard distribtion.

    Out on the right side of the IQ scale, measurement gets a LOT more difficult and less accurate. I myself once took two proctored IQ tests back to back. 134 on the first one, 176 on the second. (Strongly suspect the first one was more accurate.)

    There are very, very few people out there on the far right side of the curve, from any of the 57 genders.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    The reason males have greater variance is because a Y chromosome is a partial X chromosome, and if there is a mutation on the other part of the X chromosome, a man (XY) needs to inherit a mutated X chromosome from the mother only, while a woman (XX) needs to inherit mutated X chromosomes from both the mother and father.

    An example of this type of mutation is male pattern baldness. Woman can get male pattern baldness too, but it's a lot less likely since they need to inherit the genes from both parents, while men only need to inherit it from the mother.
  141. @Buzz Mohawk
    I'm married to a mathematician from Europe, and I do suspect that there is some social ("nurture") influence on how few girls go into math in America. At the same time, I realistically view math as mostly a male subject -- and my wife actually agrees. She would be the first to tell you that almost all the hotshots have been men.

    We males are just more likely to be extreme in one sense or another. That carries both benefits and risks. Women bear children and nurture them, so they have to be a more stable element overall.

    The other element of this is that women, being more norm-clustered, are vicious to women who are genuine outliers. Not Elizabeth Holmes-type outliers (lies and batted eyes), but actual geeky gals who can hold their own on actual geeky teams that produce real stuff under budget and on time.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women, even though there were fewer women than men in her field. (Probably not the case today.) She has many stories about seeing an excellent hire being advanced then cut off at the knees by a jealous, inferior supervisor. She considers PC to be excuses whereby women make sure excellence is destroyed in the name of normalcy–with normalcy itself being massively redefined over the past 40 years.

    That’s a lot of power to have.

    I may have related this before: she related once finding herself in an impromptu bitch party among female colleagues at one job, involving how horrible men are, and how all men are rapists, constantly harassing women in the workplace, etc., with the ensuing floods of stories about this.

    She says that she sat there listening with nothing to say, till someone noted that with the suspicious gaze of the snoopy neighbor who whiffs nonconformity.

    She replied that she had nothing to contribute, since she had never had any experience like this. A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn’t ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    The other females were visibly irritated by this, with one opining that of course the men she worked with weren’t attracted to her enough to want to harass and grope and conquer and humiliate and rape her, since she was married. Married women aren’t attractive, “particularly breeder types.”

    She said to me that it was such a sad twisty mixture of envy and anger and truth and confusion and outright sad frustrated sexual yearning that she just nodded and said they were no doubt right.

    Not bothering, as I would have, to belabor the point a) that she wasn’t married when this happened and b) of how married women get chosen in the first place.

    That’s no doubt where the Being Female/social skills part comes in: I would have felt the urge to correct the particulars of their stupidity. But she’s both humanly canny…and a generous soul: they went home to their cats that night feeling like femmes fatales and superheroes. Unattractive/undesirable she went home to her home, husband, and family. They could dream their dreamy Pound Me Too dreams while she engages in the horror of a loving, normal, abundant daily life.

    Though we talk often about what “normal” means. We’re both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years’ white-on-white civil war of the 20th century. She calls the 21st century the Refugium Age.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women...
     
    Mine has said the same thing.

    A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn’t ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

     

    Something like this happened to me many years ago. I just stopped a few times to talk to a particularly hot female who worked downstairs, on the way to the restrooms. My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman's female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.
    , @Corvinus
    "We’re both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years’ white-on-white civil war of the 20th century."

    Could you expand upon this particular point? What do you exactly mean? Please elaborate.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Well said, and sadly all too true.
  142. @TWS
    And comment here. That had to be a hit to the readership when they dropped the comments.

    Yeah, I think there their idea of limiting the comments to paid subscribers has backfired. Rather than nudge me to sign up, it just caused me to stop reading the site unless iSteve (or some other site) links to a specific story over there.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I stopped commenting, and reading, Wretchard when he/PJmedia/whoever required a Disqus sign up. I am not giving anybody any more tracking info then necessary.
  143. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    No problems on this end: perfect ending if you ask me.

  144. steve thinks he can beat jpod at a game jpod invented.

    this is sad.

    but england sucks at football and rugby and tennis etc.. always two periods.

    touche!

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Actual%20Nazi

    it wasn’t a nazi salute. it was a roman salute.

    steve needs to drink a chartreuse and ardbeg and think about REALITY.

    ULTIMATE REALITY.

  145. @Buffalo Joe
    James, I think the novel "QB VII", which was excellent, dealt with British libel laws.

    QB VII was about Irish quarterback Ken O’Brien. O’Brien was born in New York.

    Good Irishman Ken O’Brien — as opposed to corrupt government worker Leprechaun dirtbags Comey and Brennan and General Casey — led the New York Jets to victory over Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins in a 51-45 over time game in 1986.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    This is Buffalo Joe you're addressing. I don't think he'll be impressed by a Jet.
  146. Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism applies here too. If you read between the lines, Saini’s entire screed is little more than an extensive elaboration on “these parts make me feel good about myself, so totally true, and these other parts make me feel kind of bad, so totally false and also evil”.

  147. @Anon

    He adds, judiciously, that he doesn’t think these differences will be large—only a fraction as big as the variation between individuals, just as biologist Richard Lewontin estimated in 1972.
     
    This drives me nuts. What she's saying is that, since 95 percent of people are within plus or minus two standard deviations of the mean, a span of four standard deviations, a mean difference between blacks and whites of a mere one standard deviation is tiny, a mere one-quarter of the span. (Or you can make it smaller by going to three SDs and 98 percent and mean differences are 1/6 of the span.)

    But what this means is is that:

    -- 4 percent of blacks will fall between an IQ of 100 and 120, while 16 percent of whites will

    -- 2 percent of whites will have an IQ over 130, whereas only a tenth of a percent of blacks will

    -- 17 percent of blacks will be retarded, while 2 percent of whites will be.

    (This assumes the same standard deviation for both groups; in reality, blacks are less varied and less present at the extremes.)

    Do we call this "Lewontin's Second Fallacy" or should we rename it "Reich's Fallacy"?

    Saini has an engineering masters. Can we assume she studied statistics, or is that not used in engineering?

    By the way, Saini seems to have been a student through roughly 2005, assuming two years per masters degree. By 2008 she had won a journalism award. I think we can assume that she never really worked as an engineer or scientist. This follows the pattern of, for instance, black law graduates of Harvard Law who weirdly often never end up working in law. In that case it's probably because of their low ability, having been affirmative-actioned all the way through law school. But for Indians in the UK, that would not be the case, would it? Would an Oxford engineering program have accepted an non-qualified Indian female in the early aughts? I wonder what her undergraduate degree was in. If not STEM, then maybe the "engineering" degree was one of those "humanities STEM" things, like "Teaching diverse students engineering in a hostile racial monoculture." Stanford physics, among other schools, is cranking out female black "physics" PhDs by the bushel with fake dissertations like that. They are getting hired by physics departments as professors, and the real physics is taught by underpaid adjuncts.

    Would an Oxford engineering program have accepted an non-qualified Indian female in the early aughts?

    I don’t know if Indian would have gotten her any preference, but the female part certainly could have done some heavy lifting.

  148. @Anonymous

    I wonder if Angela Saini can drink a quart of full cream Jersey-cow fresh milk at one sitting without having to urgently rush to the toilet with violent diarrhea?

    A non trivial effect of genetic selection which is ‘only’ a few thousand years old.
     

    https://miro.medium.com/fit/c/240/240/0*Zsk8yPbBoUj7B23y.jpeg

    Angela Saini is a Punjabi. Saini is a Punjabi Sikh last name. Punjab is known for dairy farming. It is highly unlikely she is lactose intolerant.

    A footnote: Tens of thousands of Punjabi Sikhs have migrated to Italy, and are employed in the dairy industry.

    The Sikhs who saved Parmesan

    I feel like dear old Ange wouldn’t have any time to write an entire book full of this drivel if her hubs was meeting her needs at home.

  149. @Federalist
    Was she undercover as a meth head?

    Was she undercover as a meth head?

    From the youtube comments: the preferred term for Latino is now ‘Methican-American’

  150. @Cagey Beast
    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners … actually liking themselves and their culture … Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Yes, they now tell us a peaceful assembly in favour of self-government is what they died fighting in WW2 to keep from Britain:

    https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1111904483729203200

    Hey good for Dave Lammy.

    Oh wait, he’s 0% English. Why should he get any say at all?

  151. jon says:
    @guest
    Gell-Man is not an authority to whom anyone appeals. He's just the guy who gave this other guy an idea which happens to have subsequently named after the first guy.

    Gell-Mann is not an authority to whom anyone appeals.

    Exactly, Gell-Mann may have been one of the greats of the physics world, but he isn’t a known-quantity to the common man the way a Hawking or a Sagan are. Even on here, a more informed group than most, we have people thinking it is a reference to one Mr. Gell and another Mr. Mann.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Exactly, Gell-Mann may have been one of the greats of the physics world, but he isn’t a known-quantity to the common man the way a Hawking or a Sagan are."

    Yet Gell-Mann is an expert in a particular field, regardless of his popularity, or lack thereof. Mr. Sailer appealed to this authority when making a sublime point--we ought not to trust certain writers because of their alleged lack of expertise.
  152. If we are to believe Ms. Saini, Steve Sailer blogs about race in full SS officer uniform attire, with the Horst Wessel as background music! LOL!

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    What stupidity. Most of this blog's commentariat, let alone the alt-right writ large, is rather pro-Russian, and seeks a better relationship out with Putin's Russia. The Nazis wanted to turn the Russians into a helot race, at best, and turn Russia into a massive colony, Manifest Destiny style. That was a core component of the ideology. The Nazis were anything but consistent white supremacists: rather, they were extremely hard-line German ethno-nationalists, and behaved as such. They treated Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians, many of them quite "Aryan" looking, as subhumans, while viewing the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, and Japanese as foreign but ultimately respectable civilizations. Hitler even had a favorable view of Islam.

    Neo-Nazism is also a deeply stupid belief system, when you think about it. It's the most demonstrably failed ideology in recent history, accomplishing basically the opposite of *everything* it set out to do, and headed by a man characterized by nothing so much as an innate tendency for destruction, of himself and his own nation included. The Nazi regime wasn't good at anything except destruction, and fetishized the most blatant mediocrity behind all their faux-Nietzschean propaganda. So, why would anybody want to ape such a visible failure?

    The answer: not many people would. Even on the hard-right. This isn't West Germany in the 1950s and 1960s where the BND (whose methods in dealing with neo-Nazis we imitated with the KKK in the 60s) had a real concern with them. Those that do, in the 21st Century, need to be dumb and incompetent enough to embrace it, ergo, they aren't much of a threat to the system. The people who really pose an ideological threat at all are not at all likely to be neo-Nazis.

    But the MSM doesn't want you to know that... and not just for the obvious political reasons. It's easier for their own minds and security to associate the idea of supporting softcore eugenics and population control with megalomaniacal genocidal fantasies. People are generally averse to questioning their beliefs, much of which stems from what they've been told their entire life, and figuring out that they might be wrong. Humans prefer comfort.
  153. @Stick
    She looks like a dusky Caucasian. Maybe we should keep women in the kitchen making sandwiches. They make horrible authors.

    “Maybe we should keep women in the kitchen making sandwiches. They make horrible authors.”

    Some women make horrible sandwiches. And some women make excellent authors–of fiction.

  154. @stillCARealist
    Vincent Sarich was at UCB when I was there. He got quoted in the Daily Cal (the campus free commie rag) at a debate about the genetic roots of homosexuality. "How could there be a gene for homosexuality? How the hell would it perpetuate itself?" It generated plenty of discussion, I'll tell you. No way would any such commie rag publish that quote today.

    Frank Salter has posted three videos of Vincent Sarich giving a lecture outside of Moscow in 2001 on YouTube. They were posted about 10 months ago. Were you there when he had protestors demonstrating inside and outside his classes? It looks like he took early retirement from UCB not long after that for critiquing affirmative action.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    I'm guessing this was in about 1989. I heard him talk and he was very entertaining. The comment about genes and homosexuality was one of those that made people go, "Oh yeah."

    I knew he was protested, but then, everything was protested.
  155. @Olorin
    The other element of this is that women, being more norm-clustered, are vicious to women who are genuine outliers. Not Elizabeth Holmes-type outliers (lies and batted eyes), but actual geeky gals who can hold their own on actual geeky teams that produce real stuff under budget and on time.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women, even though there were fewer women than men in her field. (Probably not the case today.) She has many stories about seeing an excellent hire being advanced then cut off at the knees by a jealous, inferior supervisor. She considers PC to be excuses whereby women make sure excellence is destroyed in the name of normalcy--with normalcy itself being massively redefined over the past 40 years.

    That's a lot of power to have.

    I may have related this before: she related once finding herself in an impromptu bitch party among female colleagues at one job, involving how horrible men are, and how all men are rapists, constantly harassing women in the workplace, etc., with the ensuing floods of stories about this.

    She says that she sat there listening with nothing to say, till someone noted that with the suspicious gaze of the snoopy neighbor who whiffs nonconformity.

    She replied that she had nothing to contribute, since she had never had any experience like this. A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn't ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    The other females were visibly irritated by this, with one opining that of course the men she worked with weren't attracted to her enough to want to harass and grope and conquer and humiliate and rape her, since she was married. Married women aren't attractive, "particularly breeder types."

    She said to me that it was such a sad twisty mixture of envy and anger and truth and confusion and outright sad frustrated sexual yearning that she just nodded and said they were no doubt right.

    Not bothering, as I would have, to belabor the point a) that she wasn't married when this happened and b) of how married women get chosen in the first place.

    That's no doubt where the Being Female/social skills part comes in: I would have felt the urge to correct the particulars of their stupidity. But she's both humanly canny...and a generous soul: they went home to their cats that night feeling like femmes fatales and superheroes. Unattractive/undesirable she went home to her home, husband, and family. They could dream their dreamy Pound Me Too dreams while she engages in the horror of a loving, normal, abundant daily life.

    Though we talk often about what "normal" means. We're both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years' white-on-white civil war of the 20th century. She calls the 21st century the Refugium Age.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women…

    Mine has said the same thing.

    A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn’t ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    Something like this happened to me many years ago. I just stopped a few times to talk to a particularly hot female who worked downstairs, on the way to the restrooms. My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "My wife was on the Ph.D. track toward a full professorship in a then-very-recently communist country until she found out she could live better doing almost anything in the United States."

    So, she is not native to America? And you enabled her to pursue a career? I thought such behavior was frowned upon here.

    "My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it."

    Somehow I doubt this situation occurred in the way that you made it out to be.

  156. @jim jones
    All the Asians I know eat lots of cheese, ice cream and milk. I wonder if lactose intolerance is just an urban myth.

    Cheese and cream and butter have very little lactose, just trace amounts.Butter and many cheeses contain zero grams of carbohydrate, which means they contain zero grams of sugar. And zero sugar means zero lactose.

    my grandmother was lactose intolerant, but she had no problems eating cheese, cream and yogurt. Only issue was drinking a glass of milk, especially the low fat milk. Skim milk has 50% more lactose than whole milk. A cup of whole milk has 50% more lactose than a cup of ice-cream…The more cream they use in the ice cream the less lactose.

    One reason more people today have issues with dairy they consume more of the low fat dairy products which are much higher in lactose. The High fat dairy have much less lactose.

  157. @BB753
    If we are to believe Ms. Saini, Steve Sailer blogs about race in full SS officer uniform attire, with the Horst Wessel as background music! LOL!


    https://youtu.be/58CCjedZsgg

    What stupidity. Most of this blog’s commentariat, let alone the alt-right writ large, is rather pro-Russian, and seeks a better relationship out with Putin’s Russia. The Nazis wanted to turn the Russians into a helot race, at best, and turn Russia into a massive colony, Manifest Destiny style. That was a core component of the ideology. The Nazis were anything but consistent white supremacists: rather, they were extremely hard-line German ethno-nationalists, and behaved as such. They treated Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians, many of them quite “Aryan” looking, as subhumans, while viewing the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, and Japanese as foreign but ultimately respectable civilizations. Hitler even had a favorable view of Islam.

    Neo-Nazism is also a deeply stupid belief system, when you think about it. It’s the most demonstrably failed ideology in recent history, accomplishing basically the opposite of *everything* it set out to do, and headed by a man characterized by nothing so much as an innate tendency for destruction, of himself and his own nation included. The Nazi regime wasn’t good at anything except destruction, and fetishized the most blatant mediocrity behind all their faux-Nietzschean propaganda. So, why would anybody want to ape such a visible failure?

    The answer: not many people would. Even on the hard-right. This isn’t West Germany in the 1950s and 1960s where the BND (whose methods in dealing with neo-Nazis we imitated with the KKK in the 60s) had a real concern with them. Those that do, in the 21st Century, need to be dumb and incompetent enough to embrace it, ergo, they aren’t much of a threat to the system. The people who really pose an ideological threat at all are not at all likely to be neo-Nazis.

    But the MSM doesn’t want you to know that… and not just for the obvious political reasons. It’s easier for their own minds and security to associate the idea of supporting softcore eugenics and population control with megalomaniacal genocidal fantasies. People are generally averse to questioning their beliefs, much of which stems from what they’ve been told their entire life, and figuring out that they might be wrong. Humans prefer comfort.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Minor correction; per his crackpot racial theory, Hitler considered Ukrainians Aryan, because of the Crimean Goths (not kidding). The Nazis treated Ukrainians far less harshly (i.e. still very harshly) than Russians or Poles, and hundreds of thousands of them volunteered to serve as collaborationist soldiers or paramilitaries.
    , @BB753
    I was just making fun of the typical liberal Weltanschaung, not my idea of Nazism. In their minds, a racial scientist or eugenicist is a Nazi. Although, as you say, Nazis discrimated against non-Aryans rather than non-Whites.
  158. @jon

    Gell-Mann is not an authority to whom anyone appeals.
     
    Exactly, Gell-Mann may have been one of the greats of the physics world, but he isn't a known-quantity to the common man the way a Hawking or a Sagan are. Even on here, a more informed group than most, we have people thinking it is a reference to one Mr. Gell and another Mr. Mann.

    “Exactly, Gell-Mann may have been one of the greats of the physics world, but he isn’t a known-quantity to the common man the way a Hawking or a Sagan are.”

    Yet Gell-Mann is an expert in a particular field, regardless of his popularity, or lack thereof. Mr. Sailer appealed to this authority when making a sublime point–we ought not to trust certain writers because of their alleged lack of expertise.

  159. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women...
     
    Mine has said the same thing.

    A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn’t ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

     

    Something like this happened to me many years ago. I just stopped a few times to talk to a particularly hot female who worked downstairs, on the way to the restrooms. My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman's female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.

    “My wife was on the Ph.D. track toward a full professorship in a then-very-recently communist country until she found out she could live better doing almost anything in the United States.”

    So, she is not native to America? And you enabled her to pursue a career? I thought such behavior was frowned upon here.

    “My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.”

    Somehow I doubt this situation occurred in the way that you made it out to be.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    So, she is not native to America? And you enabled her to pursue a career?
     
    My wife was a permanent resident already working in her field before she even met me. She didn't need me. (Still doesn't. LOL)


    I just stopped a few times to talk to a particularly hot female who worked downstairs, on the way to the restrooms. My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.

     

    Somehow I doubt this situation occurred in the way that you made it out to be.
     
    It did. In fact, if I were a better writer, it would be clear to you that all that girl and I did was chat for a minute by the stairs a few times when I had to go downstairs and take a piss. Theoretically that cut into the work time of the hens downstairs.

    You are an obnoxious idiot, Corvi. Normally I would not even deign to reply to you.
  160. @Sport
    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, "They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist."

    Steve had another thousand words at least in the pipeline, but then he looked again at the fee and so pulled the plug.

  161. @Jim Christian

    Did the end of the article get chopped off? As currently posted, it ends rather abruptly after quoting Ms Saini saying, “They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.”
     
    That's the wrap-up on Steve's piece at Taki's. Perfect ending. Pretty much says it all. She didn't expect truth-telling. All this is the product of women in the sciences. Capitol Hill of today is the product of women in politics. And don't EVEN get me started on the workforce. In all areas, take away the harping and ersatz 'authority' of the women and the (White) men could tell the truth of science, make the deals we need made in politics and get the workforce efficient again.

    The problem is women’s tendency to adopt all strays. And that includes cuddly 230 lb. black fullbacks.

    White women snarl about “deadbeat dad’s” when referring to white men but are a lot more tolerant when commenting about how the absence of black men makes the black family so dysfunctional. It is, after all, white men’s fault that black men abandon their kids.

    Black boys suffer from the absence of a father in the home. They don’t develop a trusting relationship with male authority. In steps the liberal white woman to fill the breach with money, diapers, tutoring, teaching job search skills for the single black mom and her brood.

    The folly of liberal white woman lies in believing that they can replace what only a black father could give to his sons.

  162. @Olorin
    The other element of this is that women, being more norm-clustered, are vicious to women who are genuine outliers. Not Elizabeth Holmes-type outliers (lies and batted eyes), but actual geeky gals who can hold their own on actual geeky teams that produce real stuff under budget and on time.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women, even though there were fewer women than men in her field. (Probably not the case today.) She has many stories about seeing an excellent hire being advanced then cut off at the knees by a jealous, inferior supervisor. She considers PC to be excuses whereby women make sure excellence is destroyed in the name of normalcy--with normalcy itself being massively redefined over the past 40 years.

    That's a lot of power to have.

    I may have related this before: she related once finding herself in an impromptu bitch party among female colleagues at one job, involving how horrible men are, and how all men are rapists, constantly harassing women in the workplace, etc., with the ensuing floods of stories about this.

    She says that she sat there listening with nothing to say, till someone noted that with the suspicious gaze of the snoopy neighbor who whiffs nonconformity.

    She replied that she had nothing to contribute, since she had never had any experience like this. A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn't ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    The other females were visibly irritated by this, with one opining that of course the men she worked with weren't attracted to her enough to want to harass and grope and conquer and humiliate and rape her, since she was married. Married women aren't attractive, "particularly breeder types."

    She said to me that it was such a sad twisty mixture of envy and anger and truth and confusion and outright sad frustrated sexual yearning that she just nodded and said they were no doubt right.

    Not bothering, as I would have, to belabor the point a) that she wasn't married when this happened and b) of how married women get chosen in the first place.

    That's no doubt where the Being Female/social skills part comes in: I would have felt the urge to correct the particulars of their stupidity. But she's both humanly canny...and a generous soul: they went home to their cats that night feeling like femmes fatales and superheroes. Unattractive/undesirable she went home to her home, husband, and family. They could dream their dreamy Pound Me Too dreams while she engages in the horror of a loving, normal, abundant daily life.

    Though we talk often about what "normal" means. We're both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years' white-on-white civil war of the 20th century. She calls the 21st century the Refugium Age.

    “We’re both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years’ white-on-white civil war of the 20th century.”

    Could you expand upon this particular point? What do you exactly mean? Please elaborate.

  163. @Stick
    She looks like a dusky Caucasian. Maybe we should keep women in the kitchen making sandwiches. They make horrible authors.

    She looks like a dusky Caucasian.

    Well, she’s a Caucasoid, so by definition she looks like a dusky Caucasian.

  164. @Olorin
    The other element of this is that women, being more norm-clustered, are vicious to women who are genuine outliers. Not Elizabeth Holmes-type outliers (lies and batted eyes), but actual geeky gals who can hold their own on actual geeky teams that produce real stuff under budget and on time.

    Mine has said many times that all the horrible and sabotaging bosses and co-workers in her career were women, even though there were fewer women than men in her field. (Probably not the case today.) She has many stories about seeing an excellent hire being advanced then cut off at the knees by a jealous, inferior supervisor. She considers PC to be excuses whereby women make sure excellence is destroyed in the name of normalcy--with normalcy itself being massively redefined over the past 40 years.

    That's a lot of power to have.

    I may have related this before: she related once finding herself in an impromptu bitch party among female colleagues at one job, involving how horrible men are, and how all men are rapists, constantly harassing women in the workplace, etc., with the ensuing floods of stories about this.

    She says that she sat there listening with nothing to say, till someone noted that with the suspicious gaze of the snoopy neighbor who whiffs nonconformity.

    She replied that she had nothing to contribute, since she had never had any experience like this. A couple times a particular male colleague many years before had showed attention she didn't ask for. She asked him to stop, and he did. No hard feelings on either side.

    The other females were visibly irritated by this, with one opining that of course the men she worked with weren't attracted to her enough to want to harass and grope and conquer and humiliate and rape her, since she was married. Married women aren't attractive, "particularly breeder types."

    She said to me that it was such a sad twisty mixture of envy and anger and truth and confusion and outright sad frustrated sexual yearning that she just nodded and said they were no doubt right.

    Not bothering, as I would have, to belabor the point a) that she wasn't married when this happened and b) of how married women get chosen in the first place.

    That's no doubt where the Being Female/social skills part comes in: I would have felt the urge to correct the particulars of their stupidity. But she's both humanly canny...and a generous soul: they went home to their cats that night feeling like femmes fatales and superheroes. Unattractive/undesirable she went home to her home, husband, and family. They could dream their dreamy Pound Me Too dreams while she engages in the horror of a loving, normal, abundant daily life.

    Though we talk often about what "normal" means. We're both convinced that the abandonment and destruction of truly alpha/right-tail/excellent women in the past 40 years is the shadow of the war destruction of alpha/right-tail/excellent men in the 40 years' white-on-white civil war of the 20th century. She calls the 21st century the Refugium Age.

    Well said, and sadly all too true.

  165. @jon
    Yeah, I think there their idea of limiting the comments to paid subscribers has backfired. Rather than nudge me to sign up, it just caused me to stop reading the site unless iSteve (or some other site) links to a specific story over there.

    I stopped commenting, and reading, Wretchard when he/PJmedia/whoever required a Disqus sign up. I am not giving anybody any more tracking info then necessary.

  166. @Logan
    I think it's widely accepted that males in all kinds of species have greater variance, on the quite logical notion that evolution can experiment with males much more safely than with females. One human male, for instance, could probably keep 100 women consistently pregnant. Men are disposable, from an evolutionary perspective. If some of your experiments fail, no biggie.

    It's also widely accepted that the male IQ Bell Curve is shorter and wider. Many more below 60 or 70 IQ and a LOT more high IQ males.

    In the range 130 to 150, for instance, males outnumber females 2.5:1.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/10/02/sorry-girls-but-the-smartest-people-in-the-world-are-all-men/

    The disproportion gets greater the higher you go. Over 170 it is about 10:1, etc.

    Some significant caveats.

    These are calculated, not measured. IQ may not be distributed in a perfect standard distribtion.

    Out on the right side of the IQ scale, measurement gets a LOT more difficult and less accurate. I myself once took two proctored IQ tests back to back. 134 on the first one, 176 on the second. (Strongly suspect the first one was more accurate.)

    There are very, very few people out there on the far right side of the curve, from any of the 57 genders.

    The reason males have greater variance is because a Y chromosome is a partial X chromosome, and if there is a mutation on the other part of the X chromosome, a man (XY) needs to inherit a mutated X chromosome from the mother only, while a woman (XX) needs to inherit mutated X chromosomes from both the mother and father.

    An example of this type of mutation is male pattern baldness. Woman can get male pattern baldness too, but it’s a lot less likely since they need to inherit the genes from both parents, while men only need to inherit it from the mother.

  167. @Logan
    the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west, so I'm not sure how they'd work that out.

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west

    Well yeah, the Earth is a sphere so that’s what “as far as possible to the east.”

    In any case, Iran’s rulers believe that the Antichrist and his Satan-worshiping forces, with whom they will fight an apocalyptic battle, will appear to their east. It’s reasonable to surmise that they believe the Antichrist will appear in the country they call the “Little Satan” or the so-called “Great Satan,” since those are the only two “Satans.” Of the two, America is the only one of which any part is to the east of any place historically populated by Shia Muslims.

    so I’m not sure how they’d work that out

    The Ayatollahs came to power in 1979 and not 1579, so I assume they would consult their Rand McNally atlas, or nowadays a website like the one I linked to.

    • Replies: @Logan
    If a location is on the opposite side of the globe from you, then I think it's a little difficult to say whether it lies east or west.

    In fact, the shortest route from Mashhad to SF is due north, which from one POV means it isn't either east or west.
  168. @Logan
    Also wonder if SF qualifies as the most sinful city in the world.

    Surely Vegas is is in the running. I'm sure other cities are competitive.

    Also wonder if SF qualifies as the most sinful city in the world. Surely Vegas is is in the running.

    That’s very tolerant of you, but the Mullahs are a bit slower to embrace the Pride Month festivities.

  169. @Reg Cæsar

    You could do way worse than Sikhs.
     
    If they can carry their daggers, I can carry my gun.

    If they can carry their daggers

    We actually had a pretty major case about this–https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/15/index.do Multani vs Commision scolaires Marguerite. This actually reached our Supreme Court, which is, as the name suggests, the most important court of the land.They were basically contemplating on whether it infringed on his Religious Rights(enshrined in our Charter of Rights, section 2a), and whether or not denying him the courtesy of wearing this kirpan could be permitted under the reasonable limits clause aforementioned in the section preceding the “Fundamental Freedoms” segment. Multani actually won out in the end, and he was allowed to bring his sharp and shiny piece of metallic death to school from then on. Mclachlin was sitting on the Supreme Court then so ughhh… Thank God she’s not there anymore. I do not think they should’ve ruled in his favour, as this bout of gratitude far exceeds the leeway that should be afforded to students carrying weapons to a public space. Why should anybody of any faith be allowed to bring with themselves to their workplace or school weapons which may/can be used to inflict serious bodily harm upon another person? You can’t even use dimwitted arguments like “oh but anything can be used to harm other people” to muddy the waters because a kirpan is literally a miniature dagger which is to be used for fights and other violent altercations. It’s explicit purpose, it’s main application is a violent one, to be utilized to injure others. Look, the Sikhs and I are on great terms, and I’ve been to many weddings and we are close etc etc, but this is really a no-brainer. The reasonable limits clause was primarily implemented for situations like this, and ’tis quite nonsensical that the Supreme Court would actually reward this mockery, instead of logically nullifying the whole case. What a total farce.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    It seems schools were much safer back when kids could bring weapons with no problem. Not because they were armed, but because they were well-disciplined at home.

    Speaking of Supreme Courts, our own Antonin Scalia would ride to high school on the NYC subway with his rifle. He was on the shooting team.
  170. @Anonymous
    Not a very well thought out thought; Punjabis gulp dairy by the gallon and are famed for it

    They ain’t eatin’ them cheeseburgers for sure. But you ask for one in Uttar Pradesh and they’ll make sure you become an ingredient pretty fast

  171. @Anonymous
    Why exactly are South Asian websites so interested in power-couples from their own race? I thought race didn't exist.

    race

    *caste

  172. @snorlax
    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that's hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran's state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is "Death to America!" The line that "death to" is just an idiom for "down with" doesn't hold water; Iran's Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is "down with" much of an improvement on "death to."
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the "Little Satan," whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the "Great Satan," whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.

    • Iran’s state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is “Death to America!” The line that “death to” is just an idiom for “down with” doesn’t hold water; Iran’s Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is “down with” much of an improvement on “death to.”

    Cultural Revolution-era China said a lot of existentially hostile things about the West and armed tons of nasty, dangerous, ideologically-motivated people around the globe, too. That didn’t stop Mao from ultimately realizing that China wasn’t going to become a global power in his time period and that Nixon could offer them a lot more than his revisionist rivals in Moscow could.

    And that was during the late phases of the “psychopathic ideologue in charge” phase. It’s been decades since Khomeini died.

    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.

    Correct. But ultimately irrelevant. We’re not getting out of that damned region without coming to some sort of accord with the Persians, who are going to be around for a long time after the Saud house of cards collapses. They want us gone ASAP so they can focus on their real goal of becoming the regional champ, which has been the Persian game for millennia.

    What’s more, they aren’t the ones actively exporting Wahhabi beliefs like a cancer, inside and outside of the Islamic World. They also aren’t the ones who had an intelligence service that sheltered Bin Laden himself.

    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.

    But the Iranians tellingly generally keep their active terrorist activities confined to direct sectarian conflicts in the region that we have a nasty habit of getting ourselves involved in, or to knocking off regionally-related people they don’t like, from Saudi ambassadors to Kurdish dissidents.

    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.

    Nowadays, though, it seems far more interested in its own Shi’a particularism and ethnic nationalism (with the obligatory racial contempt for Arabs), however much it might flirt with radical Sunni groups whenever it deems it beneficial. Quite a change from the 1980s. Ideologies come and go. Culture is much harder to eradicate: the Maoists (just like their Taiping heroes) tried it in China, and ultimately failed to achieve their ambitions. It’s not shocking that the mullahs didn’t get as far as they wanted either.

    >Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    Moreso than the Soviet Union, who had a far more formidable nuclear arsenal than anything the mullahs could ever dream of, actually put men in space, and who we came close to blowing up the world with multiple times?

    It’s a serious threat to Israel and Saudi Arabia. Why that is the same as being a serious threat to the USA has never been clarified by our leaders. The reality is, Iran has perfectly rational, non-“come on Mahdi, come back!”reasons for wanting the bomb, looking at its history and who it is surrounded by. The Shah wanted the bomb too, as MOSSAD and the CIA both well knew, and I’d bet anything the Safavids, if plopped in this time period, wouldn’t be doing much differently in working for one.

  173. @nebulafox
    What stupidity. Most of this blog's commentariat, let alone the alt-right writ large, is rather pro-Russian, and seeks a better relationship out with Putin's Russia. The Nazis wanted to turn the Russians into a helot race, at best, and turn Russia into a massive colony, Manifest Destiny style. That was a core component of the ideology. The Nazis were anything but consistent white supremacists: rather, they were extremely hard-line German ethno-nationalists, and behaved as such. They treated Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians, many of them quite "Aryan" looking, as subhumans, while viewing the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, and Japanese as foreign but ultimately respectable civilizations. Hitler even had a favorable view of Islam.

    Neo-Nazism is also a deeply stupid belief system, when you think about it. It's the most demonstrably failed ideology in recent history, accomplishing basically the opposite of *everything* it set out to do, and headed by a man characterized by nothing so much as an innate tendency for destruction, of himself and his own nation included. The Nazi regime wasn't good at anything except destruction, and fetishized the most blatant mediocrity behind all their faux-Nietzschean propaganda. So, why would anybody want to ape such a visible failure?

    The answer: not many people would. Even on the hard-right. This isn't West Germany in the 1950s and 1960s where the BND (whose methods in dealing with neo-Nazis we imitated with the KKK in the 60s) had a real concern with them. Those that do, in the 21st Century, need to be dumb and incompetent enough to embrace it, ergo, they aren't much of a threat to the system. The people who really pose an ideological threat at all are not at all likely to be neo-Nazis.

    But the MSM doesn't want you to know that... and not just for the obvious political reasons. It's easier for their own minds and security to associate the idea of supporting softcore eugenics and population control with megalomaniacal genocidal fantasies. People are generally averse to questioning their beliefs, much of which stems from what they've been told their entire life, and figuring out that they might be wrong. Humans prefer comfort.

    Minor correction; per his crackpot racial theory, Hitler considered Ukrainians Aryan, because of the Crimean Goths (not kidding). The Nazis treated Ukrainians far less harshly (i.e. still very harshly) than Russians or Poles, and hundreds of thousands of them volunteered to serve as collaborationist soldiers or paramilitaries.

  174. @Gaius Gracchus
    I have known a fair number of Subcontinent Asians over the years and have studied their history moderately. Many are moderately intelligent and some are very good at memorization. They are often very pleasant to be around.

    It is rather shocking how they moved into the West in such large numbers and risen to dominant numbers in Tech and Journalism. I suspect HBD factors at play.

    India has been invaded from since before Alexander the Great. The European invasion new only in that it was a new group of invaders. The more intelligent members of the natives learned how to integrate into the system of the invaders and twist their culture to their own needs.

    Now the Indians and Pakistanis and such are moving to the West, and using anti- discrimination systems to rise up. Most would not reach the levels they are without unearned and undeserved affirmative action.

    Given their legacy, they have gone about co-opting anti-discrimination standards to slingshot up. They hold tightly to their "Person of Color" status, even in America where there is no heritage of anti -Hindu discrimination to address.

    The problem is once they arrive at their status levels (often well above their talents and ability), they fight the system to be accommodating to themselves.

    In other words, they are parasitic and ungrateful and hostile to Western civilization. They love the benefits of Western society but hate the Europeans and European culture.

    Check out their home countries and they are unabashed “Racists” and go the whole hog with that. Mere suspicion of beef can get you lynched in India whereas an accusation of blasphemy will do the trick in pakistan

    Funny how these people when they come to the west dog whistle about race. The sub-continent especially the Hindus have absolutely legalized systems of HBD with their pathetic caste system which kept millions under the boot for a couple of millenia.

  175. Hitler was, in stark contrast to most volkisch Germanic ideologues, not much interested in abstract theories: part of the reason why he succeeded in gaining power when none of them could. He was more than willing to fiddle with who was an Untermensch for political reasons: the occupation of Yugoslavia is another great example of that.

    > The Nazis treated Ukrainians far less harshly (i.e. still very harshly) than Russians or Poles, and millions of them volunteered to serve as collaborationist soldiers or paramilitaries.

    I’m not sure about that, given the degree of forced enslavement and ultimate plans for cultural genocide and physical removement didn’t seem to differ much from Poland or Russia. The real differences seems to be recent memory of things like the Holodomor, and the resulting anti-Russian and anti-Jewish sentiment leading for more opportunities for collaboration. I’ve heard elderly Holocaust survivors invariably describe the Ukrainians, along with the Romanians, as being the most vicious of the lot.

    It really says something about lingering resentment about the Soviets (and in the west, the Poles) that you can have Erich Koch in charge and still get a degree of native support at all.

  176. @guest
    I prefer single-word titles to be nouns. Or possibly with double-meanings of noun and verb, like the Saw franchise. But adjectival ones are bothersome.

    Instead of Superior, how about Supremacy? Then you tie it directly to the popular phrase "white supremacy." Or is that too on-the-nose?

    Too on-the-noose.

  177. @ChrisZ
    This is a very interesting idea, JackOH. It would suggest that in some sense these ideas may be intellectual/political fashions, which would be revised, perhaps relativized, in the future.

    We've seen something similar happen with all the assumptions we took for granted during the Cold War. Back then, the Left-Right, Captive-Free polarities seemed to clearly govern every national question. The world of parochial national interests and identities--i.e., the order prior to the First World War--seemed so distant and irrelevant. But we've seen the latter reassert themeselves in the generation after the Cold War, while the once-dominant Left-Right axis fades by the day.

    ChrisZ, thanks, and I agree with you about the Cold War putting an upper bound on nationalist rhetoric. I think the pre-unification Federal Republic maintained an office of intra-German relations, but it was a bureaucratic entity, and I’m not sure what it did beyond maintaining a claim to the Germany within 1937 (?) borders.

    I’m not 100% sure what I was getting at with my comment. What I am sure of is that a populist politics that calls all of us to our common American-ness probably won’t be successful, and one reason is that the rhetoric tends to sound a bit Hitlerian. (For example, Pat Buchanan, and the current President Trump, who’s been dogged over and over by his opponents for hate-mongering. BTW-I voted Libertarian.)

    So populism’s out, democratic socialism’s out, so what we have is politicians talking packages of single issues, which makes them extremely vulnerable to Corporate America, which has massive single-issue expertise and can deliver campaign contributions big-time, and specialty lobbies, such the abortion folks, LGBQT people, and so on.

  178. @Logan
    The problem with this idea is that European classical music is spectacularly popular in China.

    Used to listen to shortwave, caught the PRC’s station one night. They went into a classical music program. I thought “this will be garbage”, but it was pretty good.

  179. @Buffalo Joe
    James, I think the novel "QB VII", which was excellent, dealt with British libel laws.

    QB VII was a typical Uris novel: Super Jew saves well-meaning, but hapless goyim.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    QB VII was a typical Uris novel
     
    What do you get when you cross Leon Uris with Scott Turow?

    Urine-L.
  180. @BengaliCanadianDude

    If they can carry their daggers
     
    We actually had a pretty major case about this--https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/15/index.do Multani vs Commision scolaires Marguerite. This actually reached our Supreme Court, which is, as the name suggests, the most important court of the land.They were basically contemplating on whether it infringed on his Religious Rights(enshrined in our Charter of Rights, section 2a), and whether or not denying him the courtesy of wearing this kirpan could be permitted under the reasonable limits clause aforementioned in the section preceding the "Fundamental Freedoms" segment. Multani actually won out in the end, and he was allowed to bring his sharp and shiny piece of metallic death to school from then on. Mclachlin was sitting on the Supreme Court then so ughhh... Thank God she's not there anymore. I do not think they should've ruled in his favour, as this bout of gratitude far exceeds the leeway that should be afforded to students carrying weapons to a public space. Why should anybody of any faith be allowed to bring with themselves to their workplace or school weapons which may/can be used to inflict serious bodily harm upon another person? You can't even use dimwitted arguments like "oh but anything can be used to harm other people" to muddy the waters because a kirpan is literally a miniature dagger which is to be used for fights and other violent altercations. It's explicit purpose, it's main application is a violent one, to be utilized to injure others. Look, the Sikhs and I are on great terms, and I've been to many weddings and we are close etc etc, but this is really a no-brainer. The reasonable limits clause was primarily implemented for situations like this, and 'tis quite nonsensical that the Supreme Court would actually reward this mockery, instead of logically nullifying the whole case. What a total farce.

    It seems schools were much safer back when kids could bring weapons with no problem. Not because they were armed, but because they were well-disciplined at home.

    Speaking of Supreme Courts, our own Antonin Scalia would ride to high school on the NYC subway with his rifle. He was on the shooting team.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    He should have slept with that rifle under his pillow
    , @Autochthon
    Don't conflate causes with effects:

    Everything was safer then because nearly all the children (and the adults!) were Americans, of the European majority stock (who, among innumerable other traits, were better disciplined, not just at home – i.e., by their parents (who actually raised them!) – but by themselves, because more intelligent, conscientious, capable of thinking about the future, deferring gratification, reciprocating trust for mutual benefit....

    All that's gone now, forever: it's violent Negroes, swindling Orientals, stupid mestizos, and so on all the way down.
  181. @Old Prude
    QB VII was a typical Uris novel: Super Jew saves well-meaning, but hapless goyim.

    QB VII was a typical Uris novel

    What do you get when you cross Leon Uris with Scott Turow?

    Urine-L.

  182. @Charles Pewitt
    QB VII was about Irish quarterback Ken O'Brien. O'Brien was born in New York.

    Good Irishman Ken O'Brien -- as opposed to corrupt government worker Leprechaun dirtbags Comey and Brennan and General Casey -- led the New York Jets to victory over Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins in a 51-45 over time game in 1986.

    https://twitter.com/BackAftaThis/status/1024464471186653184

    This is Buffalo Joe you’re addressing. I don’t think he’ll be impressed by a Jet.

  183. @nebulafox
    What stupidity. Most of this blog's commentariat, let alone the alt-right writ large, is rather pro-Russian, and seeks a better relationship out with Putin's Russia. The Nazis wanted to turn the Russians into a helot race, at best, and turn Russia into a massive colony, Manifest Destiny style. That was a core component of the ideology. The Nazis were anything but consistent white supremacists: rather, they were extremely hard-line German ethno-nationalists, and behaved as such. They treated Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians, many of them quite "Aryan" looking, as subhumans, while viewing the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, and Japanese as foreign but ultimately respectable civilizations. Hitler even had a favorable view of Islam.

    Neo-Nazism is also a deeply stupid belief system, when you think about it. It's the most demonstrably failed ideology in recent history, accomplishing basically the opposite of *everything* it set out to do, and headed by a man characterized by nothing so much as an innate tendency for destruction, of himself and his own nation included. The Nazi regime wasn't good at anything except destruction, and fetishized the most blatant mediocrity behind all their faux-Nietzschean propaganda. So, why would anybody want to ape such a visible failure?

    The answer: not many people would. Even on the hard-right. This isn't West Germany in the 1950s and 1960s where the BND (whose methods in dealing with neo-Nazis we imitated with the KKK in the 60s) had a real concern with them. Those that do, in the 21st Century, need to be dumb and incompetent enough to embrace it, ergo, they aren't much of a threat to the system. The people who really pose an ideological threat at all are not at all likely to be neo-Nazis.

    But the MSM doesn't want you to know that... and not just for the obvious political reasons. It's easier for their own minds and security to associate the idea of supporting softcore eugenics and population control with megalomaniacal genocidal fantasies. People are generally averse to questioning their beliefs, much of which stems from what they've been told their entire life, and figuring out that they might be wrong. Humans prefer comfort.

    I was just making fun of the typical liberal Weltanschaung, not my idea of Nazism. In their minds, a racial scientist or eugenicist is a Nazi. Although, as you say, Nazis discrimated against non-Aryans rather than non-Whites.

  184. When considered from the perspective of the deep past, race, nationality, and ethnicity are not what we imagine them to be. They are ephemeral, real only to the extent that we have made them feel real by living in the cultures we do, with the politics we have.

    They are not what she imagines we imagine them to be. They are ephemeral on a 10,000 year timescale, real only to the extent that this duration is much longer than a human lifetime, and is longer even than the whole of recorded history.

    If skin color and genetic purity can’t be a measure of ethnic identity, because Britons have changed on both these counts over the millennia, then there’s nothing to prevent anyone from anywhere from earning citizenship and becoming truly British….

    If something is ephemeral, why let it live longer than the present century? While we’re at it, let’s bulldoze the Pyramids and Stonehenge. Entropy always increases, so why postpone the inevitable? Let’s burn everything we can right now, and not stand in the way of progress.

  185. @Reg Cæsar
    It seems schools were much safer back when kids could bring weapons with no problem. Not because they were armed, but because they were well-disciplined at home.

    Speaking of Supreme Courts, our own Antonin Scalia would ride to high school on the NYC subway with his rifle. He was on the shooting team.

    He should have slept with that rifle under his pillow

  186. @Buzz Mohawk
    I agree. I just couldn't come up with a better analogy (because I can't write and analyze as well as Steve. LOL)

    BTW, I wish I could read whatever he and those invited intellectuals write in his invitation-only discussion group. I trust he distills it and pours it into this blog for the rest of us to drink.

    It definitely can't be like the Bud Light piss "beer" he says he drinks! LOL (I just took Murray's "Bubble Test" and scored 19, but somehow I think I am not as insulated as my score indicates.)

    I scored 32 on Murray’s “Bubble Test” and no way am I as insulated as my score indicated.

  187. @Anonymous
    If Saini is into equality, why is it so important for her(and her kind) to become 'British' than remain Indian with her own kind? If she believes all people are equal, she should go live in India. Or move to Africa. Why is her favored destination for residence and identity a white nation? Her actions imply her conviction that whites are indeed superior and she wants to be with them(even over her own kind).

    Sailer reports that her position is,in effect, that since Brits are ‘invaders’ who arrived in Britain 4500 years ago, then there is no reason why N. Indians cannot come to Britain and ‘become ‘ British.. Hooray, I say, for assimilation, that is indeed what immigrants should do, they should assimilate to the host country.
    However, it also begs another question…imagine that she had stayed in India, but she and her husband dressed, and spoke, and acted in all respects as Brits…would she ‘be’ as British as a Brit whose family had lived in England for 2000 years? The answer is clearly not. Steve’s point that races are extended families of related people has great validity. She and her husband might act, and might be, culturally British, but she would never be ur-British. By way of another example; were Eyptians or Persians and other conquered peoples who adopted Greek /Macedonian ways considers to be Greek? The answer is not. They might be considered to have become culturally Greek, but they were not racially Greek, and nobody at the time would have thought differently. If they had, Persia would have conquered Greece, as the Greeks would not have considered themselves to have been a distinct people, with the right to their own country, their own laws and customs. That in the end is the rub; when a country becomes weak, and degenerates, it loses the interest, of the ability, to defn3d itself. The end is either a quick invasion and defeat, or a slow moving invasion and still a defeat, of lesser violence. Either way, a replacement.

  188. @Walsh2
    OT - About 5 years ago the words jingoism, jingoistic, etc came into vogue for a brief moment. Seemingly out of nowhere I read it in a number of pieces and repeatedly heard it in various interviews. Then, as abruptly as the usage started, it stopped. I then noticed the increased usage of nationalist, white nationalist, etc. Of course jingoism and nationalism are synonyms - perhaps jingoism, a rather odd sounding and obscure word, didn't sound as menacing or have the desired affect. Interesting to see if the rise in usage of jingoism coincided with current atmosphere of wokeness and then dropped off when they figured out no one knew what the hell it meant.

    Additionally - it appears as if twitter is discouraging certain folks from getting on the platform. I don't twitter but signed up to reply to a Sailer tweet. When I @ him, twitter sent notification that I violated terms and in order to get back on I would have to go through google and agree to allow google to track me (obviously didn't do this). I then did the same with other conservative writers and the got the same result. Not surprisingly, I tried the same with liberal writers and voila - no violation of the terms of service.

    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Could anybody set up a way to document how the Tech Monopolies slow-walk people they don’t like?

    • Replies: @JudgeSmails


    Could anybody set up a way to document how the Tech Monopolies slow-walk people they don’t like?
     
    I don't have any expertise in setting anything like this up, but did want to relate a recent observation.

    I stumbled onto a tweet about some Chinese guys developing a program that would scour the vast library of online pornography and match the faces? of that sweet thing you've begun dating - if she has appeared in any productions. (Yes, faces!)

    The replies consisted of a torrent of unbridled rage and abuse of the Chinese programmers.
    SJWism writ large. "How dare you!" More men than women responding in such a manner. Only an occasional dissenting reply supporting the program was interspersed in the groupthink, giving an observer the clear impression that this program is WRONG. ILLEGAL. BAD. MYSOGYINST.

    I scrolled through numerous replies until I came to a notice that the following tweets may be considered offensive or profane or something...
    The succeeding tweets were only "offensive" in that they were all supportive of the "has your girl ever acted in pornos?" program. Typically, they were milder than the SJW replies in their expression - less profanity, less rage, less ad hominem.

    The tech monopolies slow walk people, opinions, images, facts, sentiments, anything, that doesn't conform with their PC worldview.
    And they don't give a damn if called on it.
  189. @Thucydides
    Steve, I don't see any mention in your article that Saini ever called you or spoke to you about the email list or the supposed business with Marks. Is that the case?

    Saini wrote to me and I replied several times. Much of this column is lifted from my replies to her. Here’s the longest one:

    On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:12 PM Steve Sailer wrote:
    Dear Ms. Saini:

    Thank you for writing.

    Are you interested in engaging with the scientific issues, or is this book to be more of a tell-all? I ask because I don’t see myself quoted anywhere in the excerpt below, even though I’ve probably published 7-figures worth of words over the decades. If you wish to quote my writings so you can offer arguments against them, I’d be happy to respond to your counter-arguments.

    On the other hand, what I see below seems more like a conspiracy theory than debate, and it’s notoriously hard to dissuade conspiracy theorists.

    As for what you’ve written:

    Like the CIA, I can neither confirm nor deny the membership of any individuals in any email group I’ve ever organized without their personal consent.

    It would be in bad taste to disclose who joined a private email group I organized in the precious century.

    Second, I am sorry to hear that Dr. Marks, whose brainpower and intensity of personality I admire, is still feeling aggrieved over the course of debates he recalls participating in as long ago as 1999. (I presume from what I read below that Dr. Marks has consented to my confirming that he volunteered to join my Human Biodiversity email group almost 20 years ago.)

    Third, the notion in your excerpts that Dr. Marks, like Captain Renault in Casablanca discovering that gambling was going on in Rick’s,

    was shocked, shocked to discover that the discussing of race was going on in a Human Biodiversity email group is amusing.

    I don’t believe Dr. Marks’ recollections accord with my recollections of the timeline of our interactions.

    Dr. Marks implies that he didn’t become aware of the shocking fact that he and I don’t agree all that much on important empirical and epistemological questions until after he’d joined my seemingly “harmless” email group.

    But my recollection is that the two of us had corresponded for some time before I started the group. In fact, my memory is that he and I had previously reached an agreement to try to get jointly commissioned by a major magazine to debate the reality of race. As I blogged in 2010:

    Back around 1996 or 1997 or so, I came up with the term “human biodiversity” to describe my chief intellectual interest. I modeled the term on Edward O. Wilson’s coinage “biodiversity.” I then looked to see in the first web search engine, Alta Vista, if the term had ever been used before. I quickly found Marks’s 1995 book Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race, and History, with its cover of DNA and Carl Linnaeus, the father of modern taxonomy. I quickly bought it and read it and then exchanged several emails with Marks over it. At one point, he and I agreed to approach magazines to see if they would like to publish a debate between Marks and myself over the reality of race, although enthusiasm on the part of editors turned out to [be] mild, to say the least.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-person-hates-nicholas-wade.html

    It’s possible I could be wrong about at what point in time Dr. Marks and I agreed to try to debate together in a leading magazine — I don’t have access to my emails from the previous millenium— and that it was not until after we were in the email group together. But in any case he and I corresponded before my founding of the email group in 1999 and should have been aware of each other’s views.

    For example, I had published a number of major articles before 1999, which I was happy to advertise to my correspondents, such as:

    “Track and Battlefield” in National Review, 12/31/1997:

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/track-and-battlefield-by-steve-sailer.html

    “Is Love Colorblind?” in National Review, 7/14/1997

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I grasp that Dr. Marks would like to both dish dirt and to avoid blame for his membership in an email group that leant toward the heretical. So it’s understandable that he excuses himself as having been duped into volunteering while his self-evidently winning arguments were stumped by my nefarious trickery.

    A more plausible interpretation, however, is that in 1999 Dr. Marks joined in good faith, but was then surprised and disappointed that his arguments on topics like the interrelation of sports and race were less successful than he expected in persuading an extremely elite audience.

    But consider the empirical record since 1999. For example, back then, in the Olympic’s men’s 100 meter dash, the race to determine the World’s Fastest Man, all 32 finalists going back to the 1984 Olympics, had been at least half sub-Saharan black.

    Today in 2018, however, the last 72 finalists in the 100 m dash have been at least half black.

    If science, in the Popperian view, is about making predictions, whose predictions have turned out to be more correct?

    Dr. Marks’ argument isn’t actually with me, it’s with history.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Saini wrote to me and I replied several times. Much of this column is lifted from my replies to her.
     
    Steve, thanks for the update. I assumed, based on your Taki’s piece, that Saini had not contacted you for her book. This makes her dishonesty even worse.
  190. @Anon

    He adds, judiciously, that he doesn’t think these differences will be large—only a fraction as big as the variation between individuals, just as biologist Richard Lewontin estimated in 1972.
     
    This drives me nuts. What she's saying is that, since 95 percent of people are within plus or minus two standard deviations of the mean, a span of four standard deviations, a mean difference between blacks and whites of a mere one standard deviation is tiny, a mere one-quarter of the span. (Or you can make it smaller by going to three SDs and 98 percent and mean differences are 1/6 of the span.)

    But what this means is is that:

    -- 4 percent of blacks will fall between an IQ of 100 and 120, while 16 percent of whites will

    -- 2 percent of whites will have an IQ over 130, whereas only a tenth of a percent of blacks will

    -- 17 percent of blacks will be retarded, while 2 percent of whites will be.

    (This assumes the same standard deviation for both groups; in reality, blacks are less varied and less present at the extremes.)

    Do we call this "Lewontin's Second Fallacy" or should we rename it "Reich's Fallacy"?

    Saini has an engineering masters. Can we assume she studied statistics, or is that not used in engineering?

    By the way, Saini seems to have been a student through roughly 2005, assuming two years per masters degree. By 2008 she had won a journalism award. I think we can assume that she never really worked as an engineer or scientist. This follows the pattern of, for instance, black law graduates of Harvard Law who weirdly often never end up working in law. In that case it's probably because of their low ability, having been affirmative-actioned all the way through law school. But for Indians in the UK, that would not be the case, would it? Would an Oxford engineering program have accepted an non-qualified Indian female in the early aughts? I wonder what her undergraduate degree was in. If not STEM, then maybe the "engineering" degree was one of those "humanities STEM" things, like "Teaching diverse students engineering in a hostile racial monoculture." Stanford physics, among other schools, is cranking out female black "physics" PhDs by the bushel with fake dissertations like that. They are getting hired by physics departments as professors, and the real physics is taught by underpaid adjuncts.

    Anon(770) asked:

    Do we call this “Lewontin’s Second Fallacy” or should we rename it “Reich’s Fallacy”?

    Reich knows the truth. He also holds the quaint, old-fashioned belief that human beings should be judged as individuals.

    I.e., Thomas Sowell and John McWhorter really are smarter — much smarter! — than most white people.

    Once upon a time, judging human beings as individuals was called “liberalism.”

    Now?

    I am very much afraid that David Reich will soon be in as much trouble as James Watson.

    Which is a horrible shame: Who We Are and How We Got Here is truly a great book, independent of his comments about differences between contemporary races.

    Reich is the very model of a true scientist: hew to the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

    This is not going to end well.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    Maybe he should've have run over Harpending, Watson, and Wade in an attempt to curry favor with the very people who will crucify him just the same. As I pointed this out to you several months ago, no amount of pandering to these zealots is going to work, they can't accept genetic differences on any level.

    The entire leftist worldview would collapse rapidly if they did, and btw you were right that his book is excellent, but it would have been even better still without PC nonsense he felt he had to put into it.
  191. @Corvinus
    "My wife was on the Ph.D. track toward a full professorship in a then-very-recently communist country until she found out she could live better doing almost anything in the United States."

    So, she is not native to America? And you enabled her to pursue a career? I thought such behavior was frowned upon here.

    "My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it."

    Somehow I doubt this situation occurred in the way that you made it out to be.

    So, she is not native to America? And you enabled her to pursue a career?

    My wife was a permanent resident already working in her field before she even met me. She didn’t need me. (Still doesn’t. LOL)

    I just stopped a few times to talk to a particularly hot female who worked downstairs, on the way to the restrooms. My female boss actually wrote me up, because that other woman’s female boss had observed my conversations with the chick who was so much hotter and complained about it.

    Somehow I doubt this situation occurred in the way that you made it out to be.

    It did. In fact, if I were a better writer, it would be clear to you that all that girl and I did was chat for a minute by the stairs a few times when I had to go downstairs and take a piss. Theoretically that cut into the work time of the hens downstairs.

    You are an obnoxious idiot, Corvi. Normally I would not even deign to reply to you.

  192. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Court paperwork includes a [photocopied] mug shot of murder suspect Phillip Foy. The judge allowed him to hide from sight during arraignment.
     
    Why no mug shot release? Why did the judge hide him?

    Illegal alien? A new Judge Shelley Joseph situation?

    The Boston media, judiciary, and politicians have been in blackout mode regarding the ethnic identity of Foy, even though anyone with half a brain knows by now that no photo/description provided = minority, usually black. That is, if the fact that someone shot a cabbie 9 times at midday in a very public and busy area of Boston was not a sufficient indication of the likely suspect’s race. In fact, I can’t remember the last cabbie in Boston that was murdered by a non-black.

    Of course, most cabbies in Boston tend to be black as well, but immigrants from Africa driving erratically while texting/talking on the phone. The Boston media were positively gushing with admiration for the murdered cabbie, an immigrant from Nigeria and a father of 5. The fact that he refused to drive a black customer 33 miles out of town figuring, correctly, that he was going to be robbed at least, was not brought up as racist. Didn’t Obama say that he knew he was black because he couldn’t get a cab ride?

    My guess is the cab driver told Foy in no uncertain terms how he felt about driving a [insert a term common when blacks address each other] way the hell out of town and Foy took offense at this immigrant giving him lip. If you just want to rob someone, you don’t need to shoot him 9 times at close range. Unlucky for him, the cabbie was a black immigrant from Africa, an especially sacred black body. If the cab driver had been white, Suffolk County DA Rollins would likely refuse to prosecute on grounds of racism – that was the campaign platform she got elected on, essentially.

  193. @snorlax
    Well yes, the most immediate and serious threat to our civilization is the immivasion, but that's hardly the doing of the nationalist right.

    Regarding Iran, even accepting for the sake of argument that they are only a threat to Israel, an Iran-Israel nuclear exchange that covers Europe in fallout, plunges the world into economic depression and convinces a billion Muslims that they are in an absolute war for survival with the West, is an extremely serious threat.

    But, Iran is a threat to America, and in fact a far graver threat to America than it is to Israel:

    • Iran's state motto, which the Ayatollah leads an entire stadium in chanting every week, is "Death to America!" The line that "death to" is just an idiom for "down with" doesn't hold water; Iran's Hezbollah and Houthi proxies have the exact same motto, in Arabic, a language unrelated to Farsi. Nor is "down with" much of an improvement on "death to."
    • Iran and its proxies have committed numerous acts of war against the US, including among others the Iran[1] and Lebanon hostage crises, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists after 9/11, the Beirut marine barracks and embassy bombings, the Khobar Towers bombing and killing via its proxies over 600 American troops in Iraq.[2]
    • That they have (recklessly, from a survival standpoint) committed all these acts of war against the US shows that they are religious fanatics, not rational actors concerned with their own survival.
    • That they are religious fanatics is extremely troubling, since they belong to the Twelver sect of Shia Islam, which is based on a Millennarian theology very similar to Dispensationalist Christians. Twelvers believe in the imminent return of Jesus (called Isa in Islam), accompanied by the appearance of the Antichrist in the East. The forces of the faithful and the Antichrist will fight a titanic battle, bringing about the Apocalypse and the Day of Judgment where the faithful ascend into heaven.
    • Three Antichrist possibilities include 1) Israel, the "Little Satan," whose inhabitants do not proselytize nor believe in even a false Christ, capable of raising only a small army and situated a short distance to the west of Iran and the Shia world in general, 2) America, the "Great Satan," whose inhabitants proselytize a false (i.e. Christian) Christ, capable of raising a titanic army and already possessing the most powerful in the history of the world, where the most decadent and sinful city in the world, San Francisco, is as far as possible to the east of Mashhad, Iran, the holiest city to Twelvers after Mecca and Medina, or 3) both America and Israel.

    Given all that, a nuclear Iran would be the most serious threat to America in our history. The neocon stopped clock is right in that for our own safety we cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and ought to destroy their nuclear facilities if necessary for that purpose.

    [1] In an almost certainly coordinated attack on the same day as the embassy takeover, the US ambassador to neighboring Afghanistan was kidnapped and killed.
    [2] And evidence, albeit sketchy as of yet, has lately emerged that they had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing.

    The leadership has clarified on multiple occasions that their chant is directed primarily at the officials in the government administrations of the United States, and not the average man or women from the citizenry. Hezbollah is merely and only a defensive organization which was formed initially for the sake of liberation, and sure in the beginning at least, moving towards a theocratic state but they have long done away with that. Nasrallah himself has reinstated the alcohol laws and removed the prohibitions on them, and he has discontinued the legislation regarding mandatory headscarves. Their own clerical and other general religious leaders have themselves repudiates the idea of a theocratic state, describing it as unfeasible, and even going as far as to say that those who desire such a government should “go to the Islamic Republic(Iran)”. There is absolutely no proof, that is reputable at least, that Iran did the Lockerbie bombings or any of the other ones you listed. They are obviously castigated for the failures of the security apparatus(es?) Of the US intelligence services and they are scapegoated as the tensions and hostilities between these two countries exist, and they do so heatedly. Oh and the Khobar Towers were a military target, no? Were they or were they not housing military personnel as part of the US campaign in Iraq that were inflicting no-fly zones(tm) in the southern region of thr country? It’s a rhetorical question, the answer is undoubtably a YES!! The Iran hostage crisis was the result of blowback as it is and was readily acknowledged by the CIA and other members of the relevant alphabet agencies. No one was killed, and it was a result of the anger that was overflowing as a result of the escape of the corrupt and despotic Shah, who (of course), was an American puppet, who was militarilly and politically propped up by them. SAVAK, the secret police of the Shah, was also armed and trained by Israel, and this group itself tortured and inflicted pain upon its prisoners in the modt gruesome ways. The hostility towards Israel is partially as a result of this. They have not invaded a country for a century plus, in fact, it was the other way around. “Harbourijg Al Qaeda” this is easily the most outrageous thibg I’ve read. Al Qaeda and its plethora of other cancerous affiliates consider Shia(Iran) to be apostates, and they have engaged in genocidal campaigns in Afghanistan against the Shia Hazaras(which makes it easy for them as the Hazaras have unique facial features and phenotypes and whatnot which make them distinctly discernible from other Afghans). They have never shielded these terrorists nor funded them, as opposed to America’s allt Saudi Arabia, who has actively provided them with support. That claim was embarrassingly off the mark, it’s quite pathetic, really. If America gets to intrude into foreign lands under the laughable pretense of “human rights”… Iran must intervene in Iraq and Syria and whatnot and they must convene their “proxies” as American hegemonic influence is their biggest existential threat, as it always has been. They remember the Shah, and they certainly remember 1957. If Jewmerica gets to invade nations thousands of miles away from them, then Iran has the right to go into their immediate neighbours for the sole purpose of peace and defense. Your comment is in all honesty, a shockingly inaccurate and misguided one. Deprogramming is absolutely needed in your situation

  194. “My wife was a permanent resident already working in her field before she even met me. ”

    So, not a citizen. Great to know. I thought we already had enough “career women”. Isn’t she taking away employment from men?

    See, if people here are going to bitterly complain about how women ruin everything and they ought to be focusing on raising white children, then they best be prepared when hypocrisy rears its ugly head.

    “it would be clear to you that all that girl and I did was chat for a minute by the stairs a few times when I had to go downstairs and take a piss.”

    Anyone on the Internet can be anyone and do anything.

  195. @Steve Sailer
    Saini wrote to me and I replied several times. Much of this column is lifted from my replies to her. Here's the longest one:

    On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:12 PM Steve Sailer wrote:
    Dear Ms. Saini:

    Thank you for writing.

    Are you interested in engaging with the scientific issues, or is this book to be more of a tell-all? I ask because I don’t see myself quoted anywhere in the excerpt below, even though I’ve probably published 7-figures worth of words over the decades. If you wish to quote my writings so you can offer arguments against them, I’d be happy to respond to your counter-arguments.

    On the other hand, what I see below seems more like a conspiracy theory than debate, and it’s notoriously hard to dissuade conspiracy theorists.

    As for what you’ve written:

    Like the CIA, I can neither confirm nor deny the membership of any individuals in any email group I’ve ever organized without their personal consent.

    https://twitter.com/cia/status/474971393852182528?lang=en

    It would be in bad taste to disclose who joined a private email group I organized in the precious century.

    Second, I am sorry to hear that Dr. Marks, whose brainpower and intensity of personality I admire, is still feeling aggrieved over the course of debates he recalls participating in as long ago as 1999. (I presume from what I read below that Dr. Marks has consented to my confirming that he volunteered to join my Human Biodiversity email group almost 20 years ago.)

    Third, the notion in your excerpts that Dr. Marks, like Captain Renault in Casablanca discovering that gambling was going on in Rick’s,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

    was shocked, shocked to discover that the discussing of race was going on in a Human Biodiversity email group is amusing.

    I don’t believe Dr. Marks’ recollections accord with my recollections of the timeline of our interactions.

    Dr. Marks implies that he didn’t become aware of the shocking fact that he and I don’t agree all that much on important empirical and epistemological questions until after he’d joined my seemingly “harmless” email group.

    But my recollection is that the two of us had corresponded for some time before I started the group. In fact, my memory is that he and I had previously reached an agreement to try to get jointly commissioned by a major magazine to debate the reality of race. As I blogged in 2010:

    Back around 1996 or 1997 or so, I came up with the term "human biodiversity" to describe my chief intellectual interest. I modeled the term on Edward O. Wilson's coinage "biodiversity." I then looked to see in the first web search engine, Alta Vista, if the term had ever been used before. I quickly found Marks's 1995 book Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race, and History, with its cover of DNA and Carl Linnaeus, the father of modern taxonomy. I quickly bought it and read it and then exchanged several emails with Marks over it. At one point, he and I agreed to approach magazines to see if they would like to publish a debate between Marks and myself over the reality of race, although enthusiasm on the part of editors turned out to [be] mild, to say the least.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/07/one-person-hates-nicholas-wade.html

    It’s possible I could be wrong about at what point in time Dr. Marks and I agreed to try to debate together in a leading magazine — I don’t have access to my emails from the previous millenium— and that it was not until after we were in the email group together. But in any case he and I corresponded before my founding of the email group in 1999 and should have been aware of each other’s views.

    For example, I had published a number of major articles before 1999, which I was happy to advertise to my correspondents, such as:

    "Track and Battlefield" in National Review, 12/31/1997:

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/track-and-battlefield-by-steve-sailer.html

    "Is Love Colorblind?” in National Review, 7/14/1997

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I grasp that Dr. Marks would like to both dish dirt and to avoid blame for his membership in an email group that leant toward the heretical. So it’s understandable that he excuses himself as having been duped into volunteering while his self-evidently winning arguments were stumped by my nefarious trickery.

    A more plausible interpretation, however, is that in 1999 Dr. Marks joined in good faith, but was then surprised and disappointed that his arguments on topics like the interrelation of sports and race were less successful than he expected in persuading an extremely elite audience.

    But consider the empirical record since 1999. For example, back then, in the Olympic’s men’s 100 meter dash, the race to determine the World’s Fastest Man, all 32 finalists going back to the 1984 Olympics, had been at least half sub-Saharan black.

    Today in 2018, however, the last 72 finalists in the 100 m dash have been at least half black.

    If science, in the Popperian view, is about making predictions, whose predictions have turned out to be more correct?

    Dr. Marks’ argument isn’t actually with me, it’s with history.

    Saini wrote to me and I replied several times. Much of this column is lifted from my replies to her.

    Steve, thanks for the update. I assumed, based on your Taki’s piece, that Saini had not contacted you for her book. This makes her dishonesty even worse.

  196. @Ian Smith
    Worse social justice scolds: South Asian women or East Asian women?

    Second generation Korean women and South Asian women whose families got the boot from Africa by the locals are about the worst scolds, so far. Can’t hardly wait to see what future demographic blossoms appear.

  197. @AnotherDad

    Quick thought before the morning coffee kicks in: Would it be productive at all to think of post-1945 Euro and American politics as “anti-Auschwitz” and “anti-Plantation”? I can sort of imagine a ripping good book that frames our world as a maddeningly desperate and extremely costly desire to be “un-Hitler” and “un-Confederacy”.
     
    Obviously the case. Auschwitz was the greatest win for the left imaginable. Essentially the entire narrative crafted post-1960 or so is that the Auschwitz is so close, so just around the corner--i mean look how many Auschwitzes there have been!--that we must vigilantly bash any snippet of white or national identity into a bloody pulp as soon as it rears its head.

    The actual War was German and Japanese imperialism. (I'd argue motivated by competition in the existing world system of British and French imperialism and other smaller imperialisms.) Germans and Japanese invading other nations, treating the inferior natives like slaves, bossing them around and killing them. Imperialism on steroids.

    In 1945 that's what people thought they had done--defeated German and Japanese imperialism. Which was an embarassing enough hypocrisy that the British and French--broke--had to give up their colonies. Nationalism--people of a given racea and culture running their own nations--was the rising tide. Everyone understood that this was good and imperialism was bad. (Even the Soviets parrotted

    Auschwitzism flipped the script. The problem with the Nazis wasn't invading other nations, bossing people around and killing them. It was that they were "intolerant". That they didn't like Jews. That they liked their German identity. That there were "nationalists".

    Now the thought of any white people governing themselves, resisting the diktat of globohomo, controlling their own nation, resisting invasion by foreigners ... actually liking themselves and their culture ... Nazis! The worst thing ever!

    Poles were obviously the baddies back then, as they are now. They resisted the Nazi empire, the Soviet empire and are now resisting the EU empire. Nasty nationalists who love their own people more than they love Somalians and Yemenis.

  198. @bjdubbs
    That's how every Taki article ends, right in the

    That’s how every Taki article ends, right in the

    Excellent !

  199. @Unladen Swallow
    Frank Salter has posted three videos of Vincent Sarich giving a lecture outside of Moscow in 2001 on YouTube. They were posted about 10 months ago. Were you there when he had protestors demonstrating inside and outside his classes? It looks like he took early retirement from UCB not long after that for critiquing affirmative action.

    I’m guessing this was in about 1989. I heard him talk and he was very entertaining. The comment about genes and homosexuality was one of those that made people go, “Oh yeah.”

    I knew he was protested, but then, everything was protested.

  200. @Cloudswrest

    these population groups had this seventy thousand years apart during which they adapted to their own different environments.

    Reich implies that natural selection may have acted on them differently within this timescale to produce changes that go further than skin deep.

    The scientist’s sacrilege causes the scandalized journalist to harrumph:

    They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.
     

    "may have acted" ????

    Siberian silver foxes were bread to domesticity in less than 20 generations. 70,000 years is approximately 3500 generations in stable, yet reliably lethal in different ways to the maladapted, environments. Selection must have happened. It is ludicrous to believe otherwise. The "otherwise" belief is called "Liberal Creationism".

    Liberal Creationism, that’s good. Just a celestial Henry Ford cranking out Model T’s from the assembly line. But only some of them are painted black.

  201. anon[701] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    You could do way worse than Sikhs.

    Most Sikhs I know are decent people (as are most people from anywhere and everywhere), but quantity has a quality all its own, and there are some qualities that we’re better off without

    I wasn’t happy with this display of ethnic ego in this year’s Khalsa day parade in Toronto –

  202. @Steve Sailer
    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Could anybody set up a way to document how the Tech Monopolies slow-walk people they don't like?

    Could anybody set up a way to document how the Tech Monopolies slow-walk people they don’t like?

    I don’t have any expertise in setting anything like this up, but did want to relate a recent observation.

    I stumbled onto a tweet about some Chinese guys developing a program that would scour the vast library of online pornography and match the faces? of that sweet thing you’ve begun dating – if she has appeared in any productions. (Yes, faces!)

    The replies consisted of a torrent of unbridled rage and abuse of the Chinese programmers.
    SJWism writ large. “How dare you!” More men than women responding in such a manner. Only an occasional dissenting reply supporting the program was interspersed in the groupthink, giving an observer the clear impression that this program is WRONG. ILLEGAL. BAD. MYSOGYINST.

    I scrolled through numerous replies until I came to a notice that the following tweets may be considered offensive or profane or something…
    The succeeding tweets were only “offensive” in that they were all supportive of the “has your girl ever acted in pornos?” program. Typically, they were milder than the SJW replies in their expression – less profanity, less rage, less ad hominem.

    The tech monopolies slow walk people, opinions, images, facts, sentiments, anything, that doesn’t conform with their PC worldview.
    And they don’t give a damn if called on it.

  203. @Anon
    it is difficult to understand the leftists logic. They embrace "diversity" and claim diversity is our strength yet then attack anyone for noticing human diversity. They praise diversity yet claim we are all the same and human diversity does not exist. We are stronger because of our differences, yet we have no meaningful differences and any perceived differences are actually the result of racism.

    each year we discover more evidence that there are significant differences between Caucasoids , Negroids and Mongoloid. Not only were caucasians separated from Negroids for 80,000 years, Caucasians are a hybrid species the result of inter-species mating between early humans and the Neanderthals who had dominated Europe for 450,000 years before modern humans arrived. Thus the Caucasian ties to Europe extend much further back than the commonly stated 50,000 years. Our European Neanderthal ancestors were living in Europe 500,000 years ago. While the negroid population has no admixture from neanderthals they are a hybrid of another archaic hominoid species. Thus explaining why our difference are not explained by the 80,000 years of geographic separation, the differences were compounded via breeding with other hominoid species.

    Interesting that scientists were allowed to write articles about inter-species mating of neanderthals and early humans, and even major media outlets reported on these discoveries, that Caucasians get 3% of their DNA from another species...while at the same time stating race does not exist they acknowledge that the white race is hybrid species, not purely Homo sapiens. Was this allowed because it seemed to denigrate the white race as a mongrel race , descendant of primitive cavemen ?

    But now they discover that Negroids are not pure Homo Sapiens, but a hybrid with another archaic hominoid species. It is surprising that such discoveries were allowed to get published in this era, when "race" does not exist and pointing out differences between races is forbidden in the media. It certainly seems to be significant that 9% of Negroid DNA is from another species.

    Race does not exist unless this concept is used to prove that race does not exist. Simple.

  204. @PhysicistDave
    Anon(770) asked:

    Do we call this “Lewontin’s Second Fallacy” or should we rename it “Reich’s Fallacy”?
     
    Reich knows the truth. He also holds the quaint, old-fashioned belief that human beings should be judged as individuals.

    I.e., Thomas Sowell and John McWhorter really are smarter -- much smarter! -- than most white people.

    Once upon a time, judging human beings as individuals was called "liberalism."

    Now?

    I am very much afraid that David Reich will soon be in as much trouble as James Watson.

    Which is a horrible shame: Who We Are and How We Got Here is truly a great book, independent of his comments about differences between contemporary races.

    Reich is the very model of a true scientist: hew to the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

    This is not going to end well.

    Maybe he should’ve have run over Harpending, Watson, and Wade in an attempt to curry favor with the very people who will crucify him just the same. As I pointed this out to you several months ago, no amount of pandering to these zealots is going to work, they can’t accept genetic differences on any level.

    The entire leftist worldview would collapse rapidly if they did, and btw you were right that his book is excellent, but it would have been even better still without PC nonsense he felt he had to put into it.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    U.S. wrote to me:

    Maybe [David Reich] should’ve have run over Harpending, Watson, and Wade in an attempt to curry favor with the very people who will crucify him just the same
     
    I assume you mean "shouldn't've".

    You and I agree that Reich's criticisms, especially of Jim Watson, were uncalled for.

    But they were really pretty mild, especially by the nasty standards of academic infighting.

    U.S. also said:

    btw you were right that his book is excellent
     
    Yeah, completely aside from the politically incorrect stuff, the book really was cool: I've said before how I loved the stuff about the Bell Beaker folk (a pet obsession of mine since I read Andre Norton's The Time Traders in grade school!), and the stuff on their research methods was also interesting.

    No two people agree on everything, unless they are members of a cult: I myself don't agree with Sailer or Paul Gottfried or anyone here on everything, though I have learned from Sailer, Gottfried, and others here.

    David Reich wants to tell the truth, even when he knows it will endanger his hard-won professional standing.

    For me, that puts him on the side of the angels, even if I (of course!) do not agree with him on everything.
  205. @Unladen Swallow
    Maybe he should've have run over Harpending, Watson, and Wade in an attempt to curry favor with the very people who will crucify him just the same. As I pointed this out to you several months ago, no amount of pandering to these zealots is going to work, they can't accept genetic differences on any level.

    The entire leftist worldview would collapse rapidly if they did, and btw you were right that his book is excellent, but it would have been even better still without PC nonsense he felt he had to put into it.

    U.S. wrote to me:

    Maybe [David Reich] should’ve have run over Harpending, Watson, and Wade in an attempt to curry favor with the very people who will crucify him just the same

    I assume you mean “shouldn’t’ve”.

    You and I agree that Reich’s criticisms, especially of Jim Watson, were uncalled for.

    But they were really pretty mild, especially by the nasty standards of academic infighting.

    U.S. also said:

    btw you were right that his book is excellent

    Yeah, completely aside from the politically incorrect stuff, the book really was cool: I’ve said before how I loved the stuff about the Bell Beaker folk (a pet obsession of mine since I read Andre Norton’s The Time Traders in grade school!), and the stuff on their research methods was also interesting.

    No two people agree on everything, unless they are members of a cult: I myself don’t agree with Sailer or Paul Gottfried or anyone here on everything, though I have learned from Sailer, Gottfried, and others here.

    David Reich wants to tell the truth, even when he knows it will endanger his hard-won professional standing.

    For me, that puts him on the side of the angels, even if I (of course!) do not agree with him on everything.

  206. @snorlax

    The distance between SF and Mashhad is very nearly the same whether you go east or west
     
    Well yeah, the Earth is a sphere so that's what "as far as possible to the east."

    In any case, Iran's rulers believe that the Antichrist and his Satan-worshiping forces, with whom they will fight an apocalyptic battle, will appear to their east. It's reasonable to surmise that they believe the Antichrist will appear in the country they call the "Little Satan" or the so-called "Great Satan," since those are the only two "Satans." Of the two, America is the only one of which any part is to the east of any place historically populated by Shia Muslims.

    so I’m not sure how they’d work that out
     
    The Ayatollahs came to power in 1979 and not 1579, so I assume they would consult their Rand McNally atlas, or nowadays a website like the one I linked to.

    If a location is on the opposite side of the globe from you, then I think it’s a little difficult to say whether it lies east or west.

    In fact, the shortest route from Mashhad to SF is due north, which from one POV means it isn’t either east or west.

  207. @Reg Cæsar
    It seems schools were much safer back when kids could bring weapons with no problem. Not because they were armed, but because they were well-disciplined at home.

    Speaking of Supreme Courts, our own Antonin Scalia would ride to high school on the NYC subway with his rifle. He was on the shooting team.

    Don’t conflate causes with effects:

    Everything was safer then because nearly all the children (and the adults!) were Americans, of the European majority stock (who, among innumerable other traits, were better disciplined, not just at home – i.e., by their parents (who actually raised them!) – but by themselves, because more intelligent, conscientious, capable of thinking about the future, deferring gratification, reciprocating trust for mutual benefit….

    All that’s gone now, forever: it’s violent Negroes, swindling Orientals, stupid mestizos, and so on all the way down.

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