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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Fake Noose!
by Steve Sailer

February 20, 2019

You can call it Sailer’s Boast: Whenever there is some remarkably dumb development flabbergasting the respectable pundits, I’ve no doubt explained the entire phenomenon years ago in various Taki’s columns.

For example, the sidesplitting Jussie Smollett fake noose story is a classic example of the Hate Hoax phenomenon that I’ve been explicating since 2004. So, I’m going to take another victory lap to review what I’ve figured out about hate hysteria over the past fifteen years.

Read the whole thing there.

iSteve commenter TelfoedJohn adds:

Some definitions:

Noosehound: A journalist or activist is who always ready to believe in the latest hate hoax.

The bearer of bad noose: The usually incompetent hate hoaxer, known for making nooses from shoelaces, poorly drawn swastikas etc.

Noosepaper of record: The New York Times

Noosecast: CNN

More seriously:

By the way, there is a lot of talk on the right about how Jussie will of course face no legal consequences. But my 2004 article “Hate Hoax” was about a leftist professor at Claremont McKenna college who tried to frame her white male students for trashing her car (which she did herself).

She went to prison for it.

Granted, Jackie Coakley of the UVA Haven Monahan gang rape on broken glass hoax paid virtually no price (Rolling Stone, however, has paid out a few million dollars to its victims in civil suit settlements). But Coakley had the native cunning to refuse to ever speak to the police about her story. (By the way, wouldn’t Jackie be a good example of what an iSteve commenter called “toxic princessity?”) It’s apparently legal to tell Rolling Stone whatever it desperately wants to hear, but don’t lie to the cops.

I’m not a lawyer, but if I were, I’d advise anybody out there considering staging a hate hoax: Don’t do it. There are a whole lot of laws on the books and one of them might be used against you.

According to the late prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, cops and prosecutors expect perps to lie in their own defense and seldom prosecute them for that … if they get a conviction on the main charge.

Statue of Limitations

(Of course, as Alger Hiss found out, if you skate on your main crime, in his case due to the statute of limitations, you can still go to prison for perjury.)

But when you make up a crime, it cuts into their donut time. And the law enforcement system can take that pretty seriously if they don’t like the look on your face.

By the way, considering how the Statue of Liberty has been hijacked to stand for the Zeroth Amendment (“Immigration Uber Alles”), we should erect in San Diego a 500′ tall Statue of Limitations with a poem on it reading:

Sorry, America is full,
We don’t need any of your bull.

Anyway, to paraphrase Wordsworth on Milton in 1802;

Tom Wolfe! thou shouldst be living at this hour

Anyway, read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. Has it occurred to Mr. Mandel that Jussie Smollett probably came up with the idea of the hoax while “self-medicating”?

  2. Tyrion 2 says:

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a human face smashing itself into a boot – forever.

    Then the wearer of said boot, and similar boots, being villified, fired and eventually imprisoned, while owner of “face” is lauded for the purity of their victimhood.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @rufus
  3. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:

    • Agree: Tyrion 2, ic1000
  4. Old Prude says:

    Nooses as Cowboy decor. Just so. Whenever I finish a bottle of bourbon, I make a noose from baling twine and hang the dead soldier from a tree down by the river. (I feel relatively safe from The NY Times because there’s no Johnny Walker Black swinging in the wind).

    • LOL: ben tillman
  5. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says:

    I think the best thing to say to cops is “I don’t talk to cops.” Cops are like salesmen in that they are trained to make you socially uncomfortable if you don’t talk to them. Embrace the discomfort. Learn to love the dead air. Silence is golden. If you have to talk, ask them if you’re being detained, ask them to get off your property, ask them if their wives are fat.

    Cops cannot really cause you much trouble. Prosecutors can make you pay legal fees and have a trial or at least plea bargain. Judges can send you to jail. But at the cop stage you don’t need to worry about making friends or convincing anyone of anything. You can be fine and guilt-free about their not believing your or not liking you. No cop is ever going to be allowed to get on the stand and testify, “He didn’t talk to us!”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  6. @Old Prude

    “hang the dead soldier”

    In my UK family empty alcohol bottles were “dead Marines”.

    https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/7/messages/717.html

    The story is told that William IV, when Duke of Clarence and Lord High Admiral, pointed to some empty bottles at an official dinner and said, “Take away those marines.” A dignified and elderly major of marines rose from the table and said, “May I respectfully ask why your Royal Highness applies the name of the corps to which I have the honor to belong to to an empty bottle?” The Duke, with the tact and characteristic grace that was his, retorted promptly, “I call them marines because they are good fellows who have done their duty and are ready to do it again.”

  7. My applause for your second victory lap celebrating your achievements in the exploration of the self-deception-circles lots of the US-American public finds itself regularly stuck in! “Applause, applause”, to quote Statler & Waldorf (if this association of mine is not too close to Pepe in all its froggishness…).

    Your TAKI’S MAGAZINE article is almost perfect – as is your linked V-Dare article about Tom Wolfe. I highly recommend your work to the happy few – even to those outside the inner circle of this blog and TAKI’S MAGAZINE, who are still interested in old school enlightenment writing (sapere aude! (Kant) = it takes courage to make use of one’s critical mind….(it always did)).

    PS
    Perfectly perfect articles are boring.
    It could turn out to be an elegant and rather small book, too.

  8. bomag says:

    At least we’ve still got police departments willing to unravel some of the current hoaxes.

    How long until they get co-opted in service to “diversity”?

    Note Kamala Harris, former District Attorney and ever rising political star, was pretty quick to throw out any deference to letting law enforcement reach a conclusion before announcing sentence against YT.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  9. I’d be satisfied if a deal could be worked out where, for the next decade, Mr. Smollett, has to consistently, publicly, and unequivocally admit that what he did was wrong. No explanation, no justifications, no beginning of a “national conversation,” but just “What I did was wrong and I am really sorry” repeated again and again whenever the subject comes up for the next decade.

    I don’t know how the prosecutor could enforce that, though.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  10. Some definitions:

    Noosehound: A journalist or activist who always ready to believe in the latest hate hoax.

    The bearer of bad noose: The usually incompetent hate hoaxer, known for making nooses from shoelaces, poorly drawn swastikas etc.

    Noosepaper of record: The New York Times

    Noosecast: CNN

    • LOL: Abe, Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Jack D
    , @Lurker
  11. Smollett must have come up with the idea while reading The Daily Noose.

    I like that Statue of Limitations idea … You should start a GoFundMe and take a large project-management fee to make it happen.

  12. OT but very iSteve

    Universities should be punished for giving black students lower grades

    The government should judge university teaching on the basis of how it promotes equality and diversity

    At Kingston, we have adopted a whole-university drive to address the BAME attainment gap. This starts from the senior leadership team and is a key performance indicator across the institution, including for our development of an inclusive curriculum. If one of our courses doesn’t hit our target for BAME attainment, we immediately step in to rectify it.

    Diverse learning communities make for rich environments that help challenge what we know and value – this is the essence of good teaching. The new perspectives that students exposed to diversity bring to a question or task is exactly what employers say they want from graduates. A more diverse workforce is sought after by industry, and universities have a duty to deliver that.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/feb/20/universities-should-be-punished-for-giving-black-students-lower-grades

    Steven Spier is the Vice-Chancellor of Kingston University, effectively the CEO, not some obscure Black Studies theorist. A rootless cosmopolitan (Canada/US/Germany/Switzerland/Scotland), but that’s the lot of the academic who wants to advance their career. Surely his first move should be to resign resign in favour of a BAME vice-chancellor?

    https://www.kingston.ac.uk/aboutkingstonuniversity/howtheuniversityworks/thevicechancellorsoffice/vice-chancellor/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Sergeant Prepper
  13. donut says:

    “She went to prison for it.” You think he’s going to go to jail , I think they’ll let that hate crime committing Negro go , that would be wrong of course . All these hate hoaxers walk , right ? . Now while these SFNs are cooking up their schemes which are hate crimes BTW . What do they think will be the fate of the imaginary antagonist ? Jail of course . But what if the cops find a White man that fits the description of the perp as described by the SFN ? Do you think Little Black Sambo is going to own up to his transgressions ? Bet your life on it . That Negro should receive the same sentence that the imaginary antagonist would have received if he actually existed . Send one SFN to real jail with a real sentence say 10 years , and that would be the end of hate hoaxes which aren’t just hoaxes but real hate crimes against White people as well as costly distractions that prevent the popo from arresting really dangerous homicidal yutes or Dindus . The whole White race is tweeting apologies like Hail Mary’s .
    We should start an anchor pool , but instead of the minutes of the hour it would be the realistically possible sentences she might get , from slap on the wrist to scot-free .

    • Replies: @Big Bill
  14. Clyde says:

    Jussie has seen the old photos of Willie Brown and this started him getting homo-erotic fantasies about making it with Kamala. Thinking, “If that ugly old frog, then why not me?” So Juicy set of on a course to impress and win over Miss Kams, with this hate hoax being a key part. The noose was included because Juicy knows how dear to her heart a good lynching is.

  15. RobUK says:

    If you are going to perform one of these hoaxes, then:

    1. Keep it simple, few moving parts, fewer participants, as little physical evidence as possible.
    2. Do it in a ‘friendly’ jurisdiction where senior Democrats can lean on the cops, if indeed the cops need leaning on at all.

  16. “By the way, there is a lot of talk on the right about how Jussie will of course face no legal consequences. But my 2004 article “Hate Hoax” was about a leftist professor at Claremont McKenna college who tried to frame her white male students for trashing her car (which she did herself).

    She went to prison for it.”

    She wuddnt no black (shhh) Jewish gay actor rapper celebrity political sophisticate who was friendly with a presidential candidate, either.

    FTR I stated he might get charged and convicted, but he won’t do any time. Not a day. The former is meaningless without the latter.

    • Agree: Kylie
  17. In contrast, The New York Times, for instance, has never even printed the term “hate hoax.”

    That’s quite an impressive feat of not noticing: even American sociologists have become aware of hate hoaxes, and started using the term. For example, Campbell and Manning’s “The Rise of Victimhood Culture” has a section on “Hate Crime Hoaxes” in the chapter on “False accusations, moral panics, and the manufacture of victimhood”. https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Victimhood-Culture-Microaggressions-Spaces/dp/3319703285/

    I seem to recall that I saw the phrase in Eric Kaufmann’s “Whiteshift” too, but I can’t find it in the index, so maybe I’m wrong in that count. https://www.amazon.com/Whiteshift-Populism-Immigration-Future-Majorities/dp/1468316974/

  18. Jeapers says:

    Why aren’t journalists asking President Trump about Jussie Smollett’s case now? Doesn’t the American public deserve to know the President’s official position on a nationally publicized racially motivated hate crime?

    It’s as if the New York Times, Jim Acosta the Washington Post and others are trying to shield the President from what they consider too tough of a question for him. I disagree. I think now it is the moral manifest for our President to exercise national leadership on the pressing civil rights issues of our time by answering the tough questions, and the likes of Jim Acosta cannot do this with his lips continuously planted on President Trump’s ass.

    Come on, Jim Acosta! Grow a pair, NYT! Ask our President the tough question!

    • LOL: bomag, TWS
    • Replies: @densa
  19. Kirt says:

    Steve, your proposal for annual hate hoax awards to be known as “jussies” reminds me to ask if there was ever a “male of the year” award for 2018. If there was, my bad for missing it.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  20. @Anonymous

    This is a really good–and sobering–observation. In the name of Justice the left is prepared to not only break the law but ruin good people’s–good white peoples that is–lives.

    There must be some taboo against invoking the Goddess Justice and dragging her sacred image through the muck. Maybe we as a civilization have lost something when we look at Justice as merely an abstraction, while the Greeks looked upon her as a living presence who was not to be profaned or taken lightly.

    Smollett–like Obama–has no respect for what we venerate. How can his presence be anything but toxic for America?

  21. El Dato says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    This whole affair is the sinking of the Noositania.

  22. dearieme says:

    for TelfoedJohn: hats off. And again.

  23. @AndrewR

    Humility is a girl’s (and Christian’s) virtue.

    Or, as Churchill responded when another person made the observation that Atlee was a humble man, “…he has much to be humble about.”

    Great job, Steve. One of your best.

  24. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @RobUK

    Jussie’s hoax was in one of the friendliest to blacks jurisdictions in the country.

  25. Sean says:

    According to the late prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, cops and prosecutors expect perps to lie in their own defense and seldom prosecute them for that … if they get a conviction on the main charge.

    I have never understood why Bugliosi was considered a good prosecutor. He had the Manson girls saying that they did murders (it was actually Tex Watson who inflicted all the lethal injuries) of off their own bat and Mason was not involved. It would be difficult to convict Manson nowadays. All Bugliosi had to do is put the girls on the stand to hang themselves and show there was a conspiracy, while contradicting the accused on the points that did not suit his case against Manson.

    Police and prosecutors need perps to talk. For those who try to remain silent they’ll find an excuse to arrest and put them in a cell. Once that steel door bangs shut there is a feeling of panic, which even cops who are just there to see a prisoner get. Anyone detained will start talking enough to give prosecutors something extra (Hiccup Girl got life without the possibility of parole on felony murder because she denied planing a killing to her mom during a jailhouse call). You’ll cop a plea to get out as soon as possible. If it is a conspiracy you have the classic Prisoner’s Dilemma. In a conspiracy they can choose which lies to point out the states evidence perp should not say in court unless they want to be charged with perjury, and which ones to let stand, so they can get the testimony they want to get. Guilty and lying or innocent and truthful, the first thing a lawyer will tell a client in custody is to shut up.

    “Mad” Frankie Fraser said he used to do armed robberies against cash couriers which were set ups with the victim in on it and, because Fraser knew the police would be immediately suspicious , he did more than just take the courier’s car keys as arranged. The colluding victim was beaten over the head with an iron bar and left covered in blood. A hoax in future, like some possible past ones, would probabally require serious injuries to be inflicted to stand a chance of being believed. A false flag is a different thing.

  26. El Dato says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    At Kingston, we have adopted a whole-university drive to address the BAME attainment gap. This starts from the senior leadership team and is a key performance indicator across the institution, including for our development of an inclusive curriculum.

    Marketing talk elaborated over several hours in a meditation room with joss sticks and whalesong.

    If one of our courses doesn’t hit our target for BAME attainment, we immediately step in to rectify it.

    A Stalinist Rectification Program (STAREP) has been put in place. BAME Lysenkoists ready to root out ANTIDIV wreckers responsible for sabotaging targets have been retained. Popular courts are standing by!

    Diverse learning communities make for rich environments that help challenge what we know and value – this is the essence of good teaching.

    Pol Pot certainly has shown that challenging what you know and value is like a hyperdrive jump to progress.

    A more diverse workforce is sought after by industry, and universities have a duty to deliver that.

    So the knowledge economy is being replaced by the diverso-economy in an underhanded way. Got it!

    • Replies: @El Dato
  27. Barnard says:

    Michelle Malkin mentions the noose incident at Smithsonian African American museum which remains unsolved even though it should have been caught on camera. I had forgotten about that one.

  28. MEH 0910 says:

    This was just in noose:

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  29. Jake says:

    Diversity is our great strength, and the more of it we get, the better off we’ll be.

    As Cultural Marxism declares that Whites, in effect, have at least a triple dose of Original Sin (with heterosexual white male Christians having at least a quadruple dose of Original Sin), while Jews, blacks, Mohammedans (except the ones who blame Israel and Jews), and gays have no Original Sin, there can be no such thing as a Hate Crime Hoax unless the perpetrator is white.

    John Podhoretz may not be smart enough to understand it, but that is the way he sees the world. And he is a’conservative’ among Jews. One who also hates, with a deep fury, Jews who possess actual sense and good character, such as Paul Gottfried and Ron Unz.

  30. Anon7 says:

    Additional additional definitions*:

    Nooseflash:
    Quick fake noose update to panic those who haven’t yet heard, or to confirm the bias of those who have.

    Noosegroup:
    Old-school Usenet noosegroup focused on particular fake hate crimes.

    Noosie:
    Anyone associated with the fake noose industry.

    Noosejunkie:
    A liberal or hard Leftist who simply can’t help herself, obsessively combing her sources like HuffPo, NYT and Twatter to immerse herself in fake noose.

    Noosepeak: Orwellian vocabulary of the fake noose industry.

    Nooseroom:
    The location in which fake noose is concocted and mixed for mass consumption.

    Noosestand:
    Now, primarily airport kiosks serving as an instantiation of main stream fake noose.

    Nooseweek:
    Years-old printed versions of fake noose in doctor’s offices; some stories never die.

    *I couldn’t stop myself. Sorry.

  31. Big Bill says:
    @donut

    IIRC the McKenna lady went to jail for insurance fraud. Apparently she tried to collect money from the insurance company for damage she inflicted in her own car. Although she may have been nailed for a false police report, too.

  32. Whitney says:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/696124644/burberry-apologizes-for-noose-like-knot-on-fashion-hoodie

    This kind of stuff is just so funny to me but I am confused by the motivations. I really don’t know if it’s intentional or Clueless or what, it doesn’t seem like Burberry would want to be transgressive but they had to have discussed it and come up with a reason why they think it’s okay. I would love to know what that is

  33. “The instigator sees himself as a political sophisticate friendly with a Presidential candidate”

    He numbers other homosexual black actors amongst his friends too:

  34. Jussie is likely not smart enough to think he would get caught, even with something as ham-handed as this stunt. In the event that he did, he probably figured that Chicago is run by Obama, I mean Rahm, and that he would NEVER face any real justice. Of course, what Jussie never figured is that part of what he did (envelope) was a federal crime. Now he has to deal with the US Attorney’s office.

    I’m sure the CPD thought this was bogus from the beginning, and I got the feeling that the CPD was trying initially to give Jussie a way out by simply letting the thing die of inaction. It’s akin to an officer encountering someone who might have committed a misdemeanor or two (carrying a knife or waiving it around), but talking him down from committing a serious, violent felony.

    But, surprise, Jussie is an actor who doesn’t know when to stop unless a director says cut. Not only did Jussie not let it go, but he doubled down, then tripled down, then quadrupled down. I imagine the CPD eventually thought, okay, we’ve had enough.

  35. Deckin says:

    How about another addition to the lexicon?

    A ‘Harvey’ (as in Paul, as in ‘stand by for noose!’ is a unit of how often the victim’s story has changed between when the Hate Hoax first breaks onto the scene and when it finally disappears. So we can measure these in Harveys. So I’m guessing with Jussie we’re at 2-3 Harveys.

  36. Steve, cracks are forming in the defenses. I didn’t find “hate hoax” in the NY Times, but I did find one — ONE instance of the term “hate crime hoax”:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/us/air-force-academy-racist.html

    At this pace I estimate the NY Times will be up to speed by March 2035, if not sooner!

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  37. Benjaminl says:

    Off-topic: RIP fashion designer Karl Lagerfeld, dissident crimethinker

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/fashion/karl-lagerfeld-renounce-german-citizenship.html?module=inline

    Last week, Mr. Lagerfeld gave an interview to the French newspaper Le Point in which he said he was considering renouncing his German citizenship because of the one million Muslim immigrants that Angela Merkel, the chancellor, had accepted into Germany, a decision he linked to the rise of neo-Nazism in the country.

    The comment made the German newspapers, and followed similar statements Mr. Lagerfeld made last year on a French television talk show in which he said, “One cannot — even if there are decades between them — kill millions of Jews so you can bring millions of their worst enemies in their place.”

    That declaration came just after Mr. Lagerfeld, an accomplished cartoonist, had drawn a sketch for the German paper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung of Adolf Hitler thanking Chancellor Merkel for inadvertently allowing the far-right party into parliament. Which itself came before another interview, with the French magazine Numéro, in which Mr. Lagerfeld dismissed the #MeToo movement and asserted, “If you don’t want your pants pulled about, don’t become a model.”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @AndrewR
  38. @AndrewR

    Your lack of humility shines through in this article.

    If you are this right about something this wrong, humility is no virtue.

    Press the accelerator pedal to the floorboard Steve! Maximize your enjoyment of the victory lap!

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @TWS
  39. @Benjaminl

    Lagerfeld also said “track-pants are a sign of defeat. You have lost control of your life, thus you go out in track-pants” and “tattoos are horrible. It’s like wearing a Pucci dress for your entire life”. So true.

  40. Frat guys ain’t gonna risk cutting their nuts — and other things — on top of mounds of broken glass to perform intercourse on some skank.

    Steve Sailer thinks he’s a genius for noticing this!

    Does Sailer sing that crappy song Broken Glass from that Scottish woman Lennox while he’s writing this stuff up? I’ll bet 4 dollars that Sabrina Rubin Erdely has heard Lennox sing that damn song!

    Tell us when that phucking Oroville Dam is gonna bust! Then we’ll be impressed!

    Let us remember that some mentally deranged distaff thugs and their boy groupies smashed the windows in the frat house that was the focus of the Rolling Stone magazine RAPE HOAX at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Before the ruling class of the Virginia Democrat Party designed and created the riot in Charlottesville, Virginia at the Alt-Right gathering to protect Confederate statues and monuments, there was clear and convincing evidence from the Rolling Stone magazine RAPE HOAX attack on White male university students that Charlottesville, Virginia is an open air lunatic asylum.

    JS Shapiro 2014:

    In the wee morning hours after Rolling Stone’s now-retracted gang rape story roiled the University of Virginia campus, a masked group of five women and three men unleashed their fury on the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house at the center of the controversy.

    Bottles and bricks were tossed through nearly every first-floor window, sending shards of glass and crashing sounds into the house around 2:30 a.m. on Nov. 20.

    Profane, hate messages such as “F—k Boys” were spray-painted on the walls of the colonial facade, along with anti-sexual assault epithets such as “suspend us,” and “UVA Center for Rape Studies.”

    The Charlottesville, Virginia, police blotter unmistakably describes the attack as a crime. “Vandalism and destruction of property,” it reads.

    Felony charges also could be attached because the crime involved throwing dangerous objects into a private dwelling and because the damage may total over $1,000. It’s unclear how many fraternity brothers were in the house at the time.

    Yet more than a month after the attack, no arrests have been made and no charges have been filed. The fraternity house, its shattered windows now boarded with plywood, remains vacant. Like the Ferguson riots, there has been little accountability for those who perpetrated violence in the name of protest.

    Police and prosecutors declined to say whether or when they might make arrests in the attack on the fraternity house.

    Tweet from 2015:

  41. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Just politely tell them that you have been advised by your attorney not to speak with them. The cops will understand – they wouldn’t say a word to an investigator without a union lawyer at their elbow. And the union lawyer will tell them, after every question, “don’t answer that question.”

  42. Jack D says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    The NY Times motto: All the noose that’s fit to print.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  43. jb says:

    In a recent comment I suggested that if we were going to “pounce” on the Smollett hate hoax to promote the concept of hate hoaxes it would be useful to have a high quality web page listing hate hoaxes. Someone pointed out fakehatecrimes.org, which does make an effort, but it is poorly organized, the graphic design is eye-bleedingly bad, and it makes confidence shaking mistakes like linking to Infowars when there are perfectly good mainstream sources for a story. (When you are targeting a mainstream audience you need to avoid any association with the fringe. This also means you want to avoid listing boarderline examples — there are enough solid examples of hate hoaxes that you don’t want to weaken your case by reaching too far. Less really is more here).

    I recently ran across a much more effective effort (via an article in Vanity Fair, which is not normally our friend). Twitter isn’t really the right platform, but the thread is well sourced and IMO very effective, so I’m throwing it up as an example of the sort of thing I think would be really, really helpful if it were developed more and given a better home.

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    , @res
  44. Lot says:

    “According to the late prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, cops and prosecutors expect perps to lie in their own defense and seldom prosecute them for that … if they get a conviction on the main charge.”

    Maybe for the LA DA and LAPD. The feds love putting people away for lying to the FBI/US Attorney.

  45. Jack D says:
    @AndrewR

    Steve has every right to congratulate himself. He has been right about many of these cases, in some cases even predicting the scenarios years in advance of their actual occurrence (just as Tom Wolfe invented the Reverend Bacon BEFORE “Reverend” Al Sharpton existed). This despite having no resources and having to live by begging because he has been blacklisted worse than any victim of McCarthy. Where as our national prestige press, which in some circles is held up as being heavenly guardians of our freedoms, has been wrong about 11 of the last 10 hate hoaxes and has fallen for them, bigtime, EVERY time as if they were hayseeds at the carnival instead of supposed urban sophisticates.

  46. “Jussie Smollett has a history of lying to the cops and once pretended to be his little brother when he was pulled over for a 2007 DUI in Los Angeles”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6722863/The-Latest-2-brothers-meet-police-Smollett-case.html

    I’ve been pulled over for falling asleep at the wheel on long car trips. One of the first things they do is ask to see your license.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  47. @RobUK

    1a. Make your hoax look like a crime of passion, which is, I’m willing to bet, what 99 percent of “hate crimes” amount to in the end.

    And for gd sake, leave nooses, squiggly swastikas and other outdated accoutrements at home. The True Bigot deficit is so great that most leftists have only grown up knowing the cartoonish portrayal of them by the media and, with a complete dearth of actual evidence, produce this schtick and expect people to find it credible.

    It’s to the point that I’m personally starting to doubt that anybody resembling the hate criminals of lefty fever dreams has ever really existed, even in small part. Thinking back critically on a lifetime of exposure to manufactured reality via schooling and scripted caricature can really make a man paranoid about the other “truths” that need to be questioned.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  48. Jack D says:

    As for Seth Mandel’s tweet (for which he got little support even among leftists – read the comments), sure there were always going to be bleeding hearts ready with the “cry for help” excuse (I’m sure they would have said the same (NOT) if there had been a real assault by two troubled white neo-Nazi youths) but for any offender over the age of 15, the justice system is extremely cynical about these kind of “cry for help” or “society made me do this” explanations and discounts them very heavily. They have no bearing at all with respect to conviction and at the sentencing level are only one small factor among many.

    Jussie’s lawyers and his supporters are going to huff and puff mightily but my prediction is that the judge(s) (he may end up with both state and Federal charges, for the noose and fake letter incidents respectively) are not going to accept a sentence that does not include at least some incarceration as well as large fines. I don’t think he’s going to do 10 years at the Supermax, but he is going to spend at least some time in prison.

    The people who think that he is just going to pull out his intersectional Jew/black/gay card and walk free as the black lady postal inspectors wave him thru are too cynical – our system is not that far gone YET, especially in high profile cases that cannot be swept under the rug.

    • Disagree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    , @TWS
  49. @AndrewR

    When it comes to calling hate hoaxes, Steve has nothing to be humble about.

  50. Lugash says:

    If Seth had any brains at all he’d keep his mouth shut. Karma guarantees that Jussie has texts or emails detailing how this entire plot is just to keep his job and stick it to whitey. Bonus karma will have him spewing antisemetic slurs and talking about committing #metoo acts.

    Get the popcorn.

  51. Smollett is an English and Scots surname, originally meaning small head.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smollett

    Pea Brain Smollett Mulatto

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
  52. Attention Steve Sailer:

    Please get back to this HATE HOAX scam that involved the guy who looks like that shortstop who played very well and did flips on the infield. This HATE HOAXER scam artist looks happy!

    Thank you,

  53. #HateHoax is catching on, with based millennials at least:

  54. PhDPepper says:

    Hey, Kamala Harris is… Jussie’s Girl!

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  55. Here’s my favorite instance of hate hypochondria:

  56. @Percy Gryce

    Which evoked this wonderfully wry response:

    • Replies: @Anon
  57. Jack D says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    This is going to have an impact on his sentencing because he’s not a first offender any more. It also shows a pattern of giving false information to the police.

    Saying you are someone else is a thing that blacks do. It goes with driving without a license. It doesn’t occur to them at the time that the person that they finger (often a sibling) is going to end up taking the rap – they just want to get out of a sticky situation NOW. No long term game plan. I was recently involved in a real estate closing where the seller told this story (which itself may or may not be true): the seller’s sista had a fender bender and gave the seller’s name as hers and the seller ended up being arrested by the cops for leaving the scene of an accident. Then when they brought her in front of the accident victim, the victim said that’s not who hit me, but by that point she had been ensnared into the justice system and it’s not that simple to get yourself out of it – you still have court appearances and lawyers and a whole Kafkaesque nightmare to clear yourself because of what your scumbag drug addict sister did. Even blacks who are trying to get themselves out of the ghetto way of life often have their low class relatives entangling them in their half-assed schemes.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  58. @YetAnotherAnon

    Universities should be punished for giving black students lower grades

    It so happens that I’m currently re-reading James Burnham’s “Suicide of the West” (1964). He makes some interesting remarks about grading papers:

    “I was teaching then at New York University, which was a pioneer in racial integration […] I soon found out that there was an unwritten rule providing that Negro students should be marked about two grades higher than whites for a given level of work. If a newcomer on the faculty deviated in his innocence from this rule when he turned in his first mid-term grade sheets, discreet words to the wise were communicated to him by his older colleagues, so that no lasting damage would be done by an unsuitable end-of-term grade that would have gone into the student’s permanent record. One literal-minded young instructor, who refused to take those prudent hints, found himself the physical focus of the Dean’s office, the student’s parents and uncle, a delegation from the NAACP, and a suave representative of City Hall.” (p221-222)

    Burnham’s chapter on “The guilt of the liberal” reads as if it was written yesterday.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  59. Remember, some corporate propaganda whore told his corporate propaganda whore buddies that throwing some boob through a glass window is the thing to do.

    Journolist or something?

    Will the Hate Hoax scam croak on the broken glass and the Chicago sandwich? Doubt it.

    Tweets from 2015:

  60. @Percy Gryce

    I have several friends who were ordained priests in the Order of Preachers (Dominicans). They get this a lot.

    • Replies: @athEIst
  61. countenance says: • Website

    The 2007 noose hysteria out of Jena, Louisiana is why I use a screencap of Ward Cleaver holding a noose in front of an aghast June as my general all purpose social media avatar.

  62. Alain says:

    Hanging a noose around Jussie gives new meaning to the phrase “Rope-a-dope.”

  63. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    Interestingly, the UK now has some use for Nigerian space tech:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/20/uk_navigation_overlay_service/

    …which probably means Nigerian space tech is developing nicely.

    In other news, Chuka Umunna (previously from Nigeria) is trending (along with others, voted into Parliament as Labour, then decided to become “independent” with non-institutionally-anti-semitic “The Independent Group (Ltd.)” while staying in Parliament, good stuff!)

    • Agree: jim jones
  64. It seems the Senate passed an anti-Lynching bill not long after l’affair Jussie and a number of politicians tweeted support for Jussie.

    If Democrats were willing to engage in a hate-crime hoax to pass an anti-Lynching law, imagine what they would be willing to do to pass a gun-control bill!

  65. Crank says:

    Yes, I’m sure Seth would be equally philosophical and forgiving about the blood libel if Smollet had somehow implicated or targeted jews specifically.

  66. Lot says:

    Muslim conquering El Cid statue in San Diego:

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Percy Gryce
  67. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    CPD motto: Noose tips sink fibs.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  68. MarcB. says:

    The Smollet case sheds light on the probability that the vast majority of racially motivated crimes taking place in the wake of President Trump’s 2016 election victory were also hoaxes. The MSM constantly refers to them as if there are an avalanche of actual verified incidents yet rarely offers any evidence.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  69. MHaven’t read all the comments, but part of the hate hoaxes, especially the cov boys and Smollett have to do with the media and left wing politicos showing solidarity with one another. Obviously, no intelligent person could take these things seriously, but the reflexive outcry and condemnation are a test of fidelity: “will you hold the line with us no matter what? This is not about truth, but about ingroup loyalty.” Also, vis a vis right wing politicians: “kneel and kiss the boot of diverse identity politics.” Its more a litmus test for loyalty to the narrative.

  70. In other bat poop crazy news of the day:

    Gettysburg Trustee Resigns Over Nazi Costume

    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/02/20/gettysburg-trustee-resigns-over-nazi-costume

    QUOTE: The college also released a statement from Garthwait: “It recently came to my attention that there is a photograph in the 1980 yearbook taken during my sophomore year, in which I am dressed as a German soldier in a POW camp setting as part of a World War II-Stalag 13 (Hogan’s Heroes TV show)-themed floor at a fraternity party. I understand how disturbing this image is to members of the Gettysburg College community, and especially those who are Jewish. As a sophomore in 1980, I was not fully aware of the significance of those symbols. While this is no excuse, I am deeply embarrassed and regret participating in this event where Nazi symbols were used. As an alumnus, it has been one of my great pleasures to be instrumental in the founding of the Garthwait Leadership Center, which focuses on the values of integrity, respect and inclusiveness. My sincere hope is that our current students will learn from my poor judgment 38 years ago and be more thoughtful than I was about the impact of their actions on others. I extend my sincere apologies to the entire Gettysburg College community, and I humbly ask for your forgiveness.”

    Hogan’s Heroes was a popular TV show back then, but if you dressed up for a Hogan’s Heroes party at the time then you’re a social outcast now, at least as far as academia is concerned. The guy grovels as hard as he can, hoping that current students learn from that poor judgment of his 38 years ago. So, kids, look into the future and don’t do anything that will get you into trouble 38 years from now.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
  71. Lot says:
    @Lot

    The sculptor was a female Huntington who also did a barefoot teenage Andrew Jackson:

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Hypnotoad666
  72. snorlax says:
    @snorlax

    Dems: What good is a noose?—it’s good for the pander.

    • LOL: PhDPepper
  73. snorlax says:
    @Lot

    Christopher Walken?

    • Replies: @Lot
  74. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says:

    Just as we all are slipping into giddiness contemplating Inmate Smollett, killjoy Variety comes up with an article on all the ways in which Jussie might weasel out of the worst. In a well-researched piece interviewing publicists and Chicago criminal attorneys and former prosecutors, we learn that for non-celebrities these kinds of charges are often reduced to misdemeanors and parole. And Jussie’s attorneys have probably sent him to a shrink to prep a nutcase defense. I think he can pull it off, judging from the Nightline interview.

    And the entertainment world loves its tearful comebacks.

    On the bright side, none of the specific examples cited are as elaborate or premedidated as Jussie’s scam; sometimes police costs can be charged to false report filers; and for high profile cases prosecutors are more likely to throw the book at the defendant.

    Also, Jussie has a DOI in California that involved a false police report, and that would made a charge reduction harder. Apparently Jussie tried to give the cop his brother’s name. Yikes! Framing his own brother? So Jussie was on probation from 2007 through 2010 for that.

    The potential federal charges aren’t mentioned.

    The publicists stress that Jussie needs to get ahead of things by a complete ‘fess-up as soon as possible, with full regret and amends. I kind of don’t see that happening.

    https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/jussie-smollett-felony-false-report-1203142874/

    Elsewhere, the black female state’s attorney has stepped away from the case because she’s hobnobbed with potential witnesses.

  75. Some definitions:

    Noosehound: A journalist or activist is who always ready to believe in the latest hate hoax.

    The bearer of bad noose: The usually incompetent hate hoaxer, known for making nooses from shoelaces, poorly drawn swastikas etc.

    Noosepaper of record: The New York Times

    Noosecast: CNN

    And, of course, no noose is good noose.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  76. Pirelli says:

    In contrast, the stories that receive huge amounts of ink (often by implying that the cops are dragging their feet due to racism) tend to self-destruct

    Scott Alexander had an interesting post on this same phenomenon in the context of false claims of rape. His theory was basically that implausible stories of rape, or stories that at least seem questionable, give activists an opportunity to demonstrate that they are True Believers. By contrast, if a rape indisputably occurred, say if it was caught on video, then everyone would agree that it was horrible and it would be useless from the standpoint of virtue signaling.

    Discussion begins at Section II:

    https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/

  77. Great piece Steve. One of your better contributions. Hope you’re right about Jussie getting his Jusst Desserts. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if he receives nothing more than the proverbial slap on the wrist, because unlike that professor (who actually got what she deserved), Jussie’s a “celebrity.” Plus he is a beneficiary of the zeitgeist (he is homosexual and has the “correct” skin pigmentation). In any event, Americans seem to love their celebrities. They can’t get enough of ’em –even when they claim to hate ’em (Don Trump is “Exhibit One” in the latter case. To paraphrase Voltaire, if Trump didn’t exist they would have had to invent him).

  78. @Lot

    The LA federal courthouse features a very odd sculpture of Abraham Lincoln in which he’s a young barefoot and shirtless stud, and striking a pouty pose. IMHO it’s kind of creepy having a homoerotic version of the Great Emancipator stalking a federal courthouse. But someone must have thought it was a good idea.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Lot
    , @syonredux
    , @Jack D
    , @Anon
  79. A masterpiece. Towers above the midgets at NYT et al.

    The concept conventional wisdom entered the lexicon after 1960 and peaked in 1995. No data after 2008 but my impression is that its usage has further declined and collapsed.

    For a while, it was shameful to be enthralled by CW. In 2019 CW is socially mandatory.

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conventional+wisdom&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cconventional%20wisdom%3B%2Cc0

  80. @Jack D

    Even blacks who are trying to get themselves out of the ghetto way of life often have their low class relatives entangling them in their half-assed schemes.

    In contrast to the imaginary force-field of “white privilege,” having loser relatives is a real impediment to getting ahead in life. Just having to lend money, bail out, and do favors for deadbeat cousins and uncles once you’ve “made it” is a de facto tax that probably makes a lot of people say “why bother?”

    • Agree: Lot, snorlax
    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Anon
    , @Libertine75
    , @Anon
  81. densa says:
    @Jeapers

    A search shows site headers saying that ‘it took 2 days,’ ‘Trump finally comments,’ and ‘Trump breaks his [racist] silence,’ but in reply to noosehound April Ryan the noose-loving, deplorable-sympathizer said, “I can tell you that it’s horrible. It doesn’t get worse.”

    Should someone screw up and ask again, he can just say, “I stand by my previous statement.”

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  82. Lot says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Abe as Joshua Speed remembers him.

  83. @Jack D

    I’m totally sure Seth Mandel would have been totally chill if there had been a whiff of anti-semitism involved.

  84. @Lot

    Walken is half Scottish and half German — just like Trump.

    Walken and Trump are New York City people.

    Trump ain’t involved in no watery mystery off the coast of California, though.

    Walken is a better dancer than Trump.

    I’ll not vote for Trumpy again.

  85. Abe says:

    So happy! I’m the one who came up with ‘toxic princessity’! But not 1/3 as funny as good TefloedJohn’s superb noose puns, though!!

    • Replies: @Abe
    , @Kylie
  86. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Walken started out as a dancer on Broadway.

  87. syonredux says:

    By the way, considering how the Statue of Liberty has been hijacked to stand for the Zeroth Amendment (“Immigration Uber Alles”), we should erect in San Diego a 500′ tall Statue of Limitations with a poem on it reading:

    Sorry, America is full,
    We don’t need any of your bull.

    “To Terminus build fanes!”
    Columbus ended earth’s romance:
    No New World to Mankind remains

    -Herman Melville

    If only we could borrow an idea from Kafka and redesign the Statue of Liberty…..

  88. Andy says:

    A bit off topic, this is an interesting article that touches on a lot of what Steve has raised about Africa’s population explosion and the horrible impact it will have on Europe

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/confronting-the-approach-demographic-explosion-in-africa-a-1253189.html

    P.S.: Spiegel is normally far to the left in its politics, but this article is refreshingly realistic

  89. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    Abe as Joshua Speed remembers him.

    More like Larry Kramer……

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Kramer#The_American_People:_A_History

    • Replies: @Lot
  90. syonredux says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    There’s always George Washington-as-Zeus….

  91. snorlax says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    After you’ve made it is even worse; much more than spending on themselves, it’s the main reason professional athletes and lottery winners quickly wind up bankrupt.

    If you and yours aren’t SWPLs and you come into a 7+ figure windfall, suddenly everyone shows up with their hand out demanding you pony up for their restaurant, nightclub, app, or cosmetics line, mortgage, car, college or private school, medical or legal bills, wedding ceremonies, vacations, living expenses while they look for a new job and so on until they’ve bled you dry and then some.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Perplexed
  92. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    The diaries were fake. The love was real.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @sayless
  93. @Anonymous

    He’s a dirtbag,unlike most jew black gays,who are stand up guys!

  94. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Percy Gryce

    A few months ago a high school was putting on Romeo and Juliet. Friar Lawrence and the monks at the death scene wore white robes and rumors of KKK roaming the school flew around the day of the dress rehearsal.

    So from now on drama teachers are advised to cloth monks wizards and others in gray or brown not white rivers.

    Lord of the rings trilogy; one of the wizards and the cate vlanchett elf queen wore white robes Oscar winning movie Nun’s story all the nuns were nurses and wore white robes. The drs in that movie wore white not green surgical robes. Movie Ivanhoe the Rachel character wore a white dress and veil
    Bridal dresses flowing long white dresses. Kindergarten graduation white robes and hats. Some high school graduation dark blue robes for boys, white for girls, pharmacists often wear white jackets

    White robes dresses sheets and curtains are everywhere and cause emotional trauma in blacks and liberals. Maybe I’ll make a full mid calf length white skirt to wear with a white blouse this summer and see if anyone freaks out.

  95. AndrewR says:
    @Benjaminl

    >implying the hall of cost happened

  96. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    Plenty of people manage to cut out their family when they make it big. My scumbag cousin did it when he was elected US Rep and then US Senator. He acts too good for his own sister, let alone us 3rd+ degree relatives.

    When his mother died, he brought his co-senator to the funeral and had the audacity to ask my mother to move so said colleague could take her seat.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  97. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    The diaries were fake. The love was real.

    Do we have evidence that Washington was gay? According to Kramer: “In the case of Washington, he was a big queen, basically.” “He decorated everything. He designed all the uniforms, the buttons. The correspondence exists with all the dealers he dealt with in England to make everything.” Kramer also points out that we know that Washington was emotionally close to a circle of men who also expressed love to one another.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-a-foster/was-george-washington-gay-consider-the-evidence_b_7071948.html

    Hamilton and Washington were in love with each other. Washington saw Hamilton, and it really was love at first sight. Hamilton had come from a Caribbean Island — he had been adopted by two men who obviously were lovers. They helped educate him and helped get him to America. So obviously he was educated with that whole side of life. Yes, he was married. Yes, he had affairs. Yes, he had a wife he loved. Yes, he had a lot of children. He was in love with George and he was also in love with a fellow officer who was killed in one of the wars that was going on.

    There are several letters that Hamilton wrote to this man, which are so obviously love letters referring to different parts of their bodies and the captain never got the letters because he was dead and Hamilton didn’t know it, but the letters are there.

  98. Lot says:

    I’ve found an awesome replacement for Homeland Security Sec Kristjen Nielson.

    He may be a bit inexperienced, but I have no doubt he’d do better.

  99. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Whites giving relatives money is a lot different from what blacks do to their relatives such as stealing a duly registered gun and killing someone with it so the police arrest the gun owner not the killer. Or moving in and molesting the kids.

    Or moving in and harassing other tenants so the landlord evicts the tenant who took the trouble maker in Or using the respectable relatives name and credit to rent an apartment to use for processing and selling drugs

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  100. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Although the Lincoln sculpture looks suspiciously homo-erotic to our jaded eyes, it was sculpted in a more innocent time and I think was only intended to invoke classical traditions, e.g. Michelangelo’s David.

    • Replies: @Anon
  101. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Percy Gryce

    Well, one of the founders of the original KKK has visited Spain during the Holy Week observances and liked the white robes and pointed hats worn by some participants in a religious procession.
    He copied the religious outfit for the official KKK outfit.

    The white outfit was also supposed to cause fear of ghosts in the blacks.

  102. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    I am mostly joking about Abe, but there is at least some middling circumstancial evidence.

    But Washington’s non-military job was land surveying. That’s probably along with HVAC technician the least gay job in the world.

  103. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The statue could have been holding some tools rather than his bulging crotch in his right hand .

  104. Whiskey says: • Website

    Steve, the boomer naivety has to end. Smollett won’t spend any prison time or even be charged. Why would he? Was Hillary charged for her server? Her email violation of us secrets?

    Laws are for Republicans, White men and deplorables.

    Smollett will skate because as a non deplorable he is above the law. The law exists only to screw over Whites.

    You and I live in California. How can you not see this every day?

  105. Jack D says:
    @syonredux

    Every gay man always believes these two things:

    1. That all male historical figures were really and secretly gay.

    2. That all “straight” men are capable of being seduced by gay men and if they haven’t been, it’s only because they haven’t met the right man yet. And that they are that man.

    Gore Vidal’s writing is full of this stuff. I suppose it’s part of their narcissistic disorder.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    , @Vinteuil
  106. everyone shows up with their hand out demanding you pony up for their restaurant, nightclub, app, or cosmetics line

    I once had some tangential dealings with an NFL player who tried to start a high end restaurant and club with some of his friends. It went exactly as well as you would have expected.

    On the other hand, athletes who come from solid upper middle-class backgrounds have often done very well managing their brands and business ventures (John Elway, for example).

    Same with musicians. I remember listening to David Lee Roth (from Van Halen) on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Roth’s whole extended family are eminent doctors from New York. Roth himself is pretty sharp and has a good head for business (perhaps not surprisingly).

  107. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Here is what painter Charles Wilson Peale had to say about Washington in 1775, before he became widely known:

    “I am well acquainted with Gen.l W. who is a man of very few words but when he speaks it is on purpose [and] what I have often admired in him is he [has] always avoided saying anything of the actions in which he has engaged in the last war. [H]e is uncommonly modest, very industrious – prudent.”

    Does this sound like any gay man that you have ever met, ever?

    • Replies: @snorlax
  108. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    During his life, Abraham Lincoln held many jobs including lawyer, tavern keeper, rail splitter, storekeeper, postmaster and surveyor. His career as a surveyor began in 1833 when John Calhoun, Sangamon County Surveyor (Illinois), offered Lincoln a job as his assistant.

    Upon accepting the appointment, Lincoln’s first task was to learn about surveying. He borrowed two text books – A System Of Geometry And Trigonometry With A Treatise On Surveying by Abel Flint (1804) and The Theory And Practice Of Surveying by Robert Gibson (1814) – and proceeded with his studies assisted by Mentor Graham, a schoolmaster. As he concluded his studies, he purchased some second hand equipment with which he started his practice.

    http://www.surveyhistory.org/abraham_lincoln_-_the_surveyor1.htm

  109. Olorin says:
    @bomag

    Well, after all, she is an entertainer first and foremost.

    Let’s not forget that Jussie Smollett’s talent firm, Creative Artists Agency, CAA, stands at #6 on her list of top campaign donors in her Senate tenure.

    Here’s KaMALa’s figures for 2018, though you can see that the ones from 2015 on are closely similar:

    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/contributors?cid=N00036915&cycle=2018

    Ranking above them:

    #1–WarnerMedia (CNN)
    #2–University of California (huh?)
    #3–Alphabet, Inc. (Google)
    #4–21st Century FOX

    Then:

    #6–CAA
    #9–Apple
    #10–Comcast Corp. (NBC)

    She is literally a meme candidate pushed by the infotainment cabal.

    As, we will observe, are all the Dem candidates. The DNC is throwing them all at the wall like cooked spaghetti, waiting to see which of them stick with their base, with which messages, in which framing.

    This isn’t an election, and these aren’t lawmakers. It’s a psyop hybrid of marketing research and false flag legislating designed to grab headlines and to test messaging for future psyops.

    Dems’ political leadership and activity these days has even less to do with “we the people” than Meme Grandma did in ’15 and ’16 with her proclamations about smashing through imaginary glass hymens, laughing about torturing foreign leaders to death, and dismissing concerns about abandoning US citizens to similar treatment on foreign soil.

    This is part of why Team Trump’s defeat of Lady Macbeth with memes was so satisfying. Not all petards are wood, and not all hoists involve nooses.

    Which is part of why this whole Smollett comedy is so satisfying. I mean, this guy was literally coached, by the Dems, by their white-hatred meme…into lynching his own career…so that he could further the career of other Dems seeking to establish political power…around turning unpopular speech into “lynching” in federal law.

    If that doesn’t tell black Americans something about how lowly the Dems regard them, they are beyond all hope.

    The Dems got nuthin’ content- or praxis-wise. They’ve got a tin ear. They’re cut off from vast swaths of Americans. Their base consists of literal hive-dwelling borgmatrix surplus eaters who are proud to be so weakened and debased. And they’ve been turning tricks for MSM ratings for so long that they no longer see anything unusual about it…nor why others look askance.

    OTOH the Dems do have a vast NPC army that will jump through the outrage hoop whenever the whistle is sounded. So there’s that. It’s hard to drag some people out of the cave.

    Some of them are GOPs.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @ThreeCranes
  110. Lurker says:
    @Lurker

    Which I now see is already in the thread.

  111. @syonredux

    Was gay even a “thing” back then? Apropos of Steve’s frequent discussion of Sapir-Worf issues, it doesn’t seem like they even had a word or a fixed concept of homosexuality as a trait or “lifestyle” in the 18th Century.

    In any event, they were obviously close, a common rumor being that Hamilton was Washington’s illegitimate son.

  112. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Smollatto, a perfect case of foot-in-the-mouth disease.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  113. snorlax says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Faux noose is good noise.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  114. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Old Prude

    KKKowboy!!!

    There were lots of lynchings in the West for horse-thieving and such stuff, but people don’t make much fuss about that. I guess most of the dead were white folks… though surely some were Indians.. but Indians? Meh. Given that rifles and revolvers killed so many Indians(‘genocide’!!), how come they don’t have same negative connotations as the noose?

    But Hollywood did make a lot of anti-Westerns about the dangers of frontier justice, the most famous being the Ox-Bow Incident… though maybe these movies were meant to be allegories about problems in the South. But the leftists who denounced lynching in the US were apologists for Stalin’s mass purges that killed millions.

    But Leone made the noose so cool.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  115. Hail says: • Website

    my 2004 article “Hate Hoax” was about a leftist professor at Claremont McKenna college who tried to frame her white male students for trashing her car (which she did herself).

    She went to prison for it.

    It appears the Claremont McKenna hate-hoaxer of 2004, Kerri Dunn (born ca.1964) (Visiting Professor of Psychology, 2002-2004; see LinkedIn), was sentenced in Dec. 2004 to one year in prison and a $20,000 fine (around $27,000 in 2019 dollars).

    Where is Kerri Dunn today, in her mid-fifties?

    Professor in the Psychology department
    at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, New York, NY

    She was allowed back into academia in 2012 and there she cruises along.

    There was once a wiki entry on Kerri Dunn, but it was scrubbed in 2010.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Hail
  116. Anon[849] • Disclaimer says:

    No g’noose is good g’noose

  117. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Alexander Hamilton – the son that George Washington did not have.

    Trayvon Martin – the son that Barack Obama did not have.

    The decline of the Republic in a nutshell.

  118. @AndrewR

    Wow?

    And you picked that up all by yourself from the first sentence?

    “You can call it Sailer’s boast”

    How stunningly perceptive of you.

  119. @densa

    It’s possible that everyone’s got Trump wrong, and he chooses his words every carefully.

  120. @Lot

    Muslim conquering El Cid statue in San Diego

    Here’s a classic case where a hyphen indicating that “Muslim-conquering” is a single adjectival phrase modifying El Cid would really clarify the meaning and avoid miscues.

    • Replies: @Lot
  121. snorlax says:
    @Lot

    That’s probably along with HVAC technician the least gay job in the world.

    I don’t know any gay HVAC technicians (or any HVAC technicians, really) but I do know a gay electrician and a plumber. Like a lot of gays they live in a very liberal major city (Boston) and are heavily involved with left-wing activism, so they had an edge in the networking necessary to win a union apprenticeship. Also like a lot of gays they got into drugs in their late teens or early 20s and washed out of a white-collar career path, so needed to switch careers once they got their act together. Union guys obviously tend to be pvery liberal (particularly in liberal cities) and so a lot more gay-friendly than you’d think.

    Also, obviously, most of the women in those type of jobs are lesbians.

    • Replies: @Lot
  122. snorlax says:
    @snorlax

    Autocorrect ruined my joke there; should be: Faux noose is good noose.

  123. snorlax says:
    @Anon

    So you’re saying you and your fellow 3rd+ degree relatives were hitting him up for money?

    • Replies: @anon
  124. The Chicago police detectives played the case brilliantly, acting as if they believed Smollett’s story, thus keeping the press and politicians off their backs while racking up overtime for puttering around down near glitzy Navy Pier as they methodically ran down all the leads.

    That’s been my impression too. They’ve been giving him just enough rope…

    OTish:

    Burberry has apologised for featuring a hoodie with a noose around the neck at London Fashion Week.

    The fashion brand was criticised by one of its own models, Liz Kennedy, in a long post on Instagram in which she said: “Suicide is not fashion.”

    “Let’s not forget about the horrifying history of lynching either,” she added.

    Burberry boss Marco Gobbetti said the brand was “deeply sorry for the distress” caused, adding: “It was insensitive and we made a mistake.” […]

    Riccardo Tisci also apologised and said that “while the design was inspired by a nautical theme, I realise that it was insensitive”.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47302587

  125. @jb

    Someone pointed out fakehatecrimes.org, which does make an effort, but it is poorly organized, the graphic design is eye-bleedingly bad

    Right-leaning websites are notoriously badly designed, including unz.com. The Drudge Report is the archetypal example. Bare and functional. Lefties are more creative, so they get the design right, if little else. I guess you could see the bad design as a badge of honor (“We just care about the facts”), but it’s still grating.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  126. sayless says:
    @Lot

    No wonder Mary Todd went a little crazy.

  127. Abe says:
    @Abe

    So happy! I’m the one who came up with ‘toxic princessity’! But not 1/3 as funny as good TefloedJohn’s superb noose puns, though!!

    Just for background, I was inspired to coin the term by Mandy Moore’s exquistiely un-self aware appearance in the NEW YORK TIMES Ryan Adams hit piece. Look at that RBF! (resting b!tch face)

    Really does not need its own meme, but I can’t help myself-

  128. @Lurker

    Anyone done “noose at eleven“?

  129. @Interested Bystander

    Even then, they didn’t come out and say “it was a hate crime hoax” or some similar definitive statement, they said that “some have called for…”.

    Weasel words.

  130. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    How dispiriting.

  131. CCZ says:

    LA artist Sabo strikes:

  132. JimB says:

    Jussie Smollett, soon to be starring in an all-new reality show on Fox: Real Prison Wives of Joliet Correctional Center.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  133. Jack D says:
    @Hail

    In her defunct wiki, there was a link to a thoughtful blog article on the subject of hate crime hoaxes from 2004:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20071114132654/http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/0602_stomping_out_phony_hate_crimes.html

    This article could have been printed this week and it would be completely fitting.

    This article show that the phenomenon and motives behind hate crime hoaxes were well understood even 15 year ago, and yet the NY Times and the entire Democrat party apparatus still seems to be blind to these lessons. Sometimes, some kind of newfangled hoax or fraud is revealed to the world and it is somewhat forgivable if people are fooled by it the first time that it happens. The first guy who got a letter from a Nigerian prince asking for help in recovering his lost inheritance could be forgiven for believing it (although really it is a variation on the Spanish Prisoner con which goes back to the 19th century if not earlier).

    But Tawana Brawley made her fake rape accusations over 30 years ago and the Left STILL keeps falling for these hoaxes as if it was the very first time anyone has ever alleged a phony hate crime and they have no possible reason to ever question such allegations (and how DARE you not believe that the Nigerian sending you emails is not really a prince – what kind of racist monster are you?).

    Upton Sinclair said, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Johann Ricke
  134. Voland says:

    Perhaps we need to do a remake of Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge. Only this one instead of Yankees there will be MAGA wearing rednecks hanging an innocent victim like Smollett.

  135. res says:
    @jb

    Thanks for at least making a positive post about this (as opposed to just slamming my earlier attempt to help), but if you say that is better I will just observe–Different strokes for different folks. I would much rather have well organized content with bad visual design than a mass of tweets.

  136. Dtbb says:
    @PhDPepper

    Do you wish you had her?

  137. @Hypnotoad666

    Agreed. I’ve lived this scenario for a long, long time. Recently extracated myself but I fear it was about 10 years too late. De Facto tax is a good way to describe it.

  138. TWS says:
    @Jack D

    He’s getting off with community service with his Nigerian scammers

  139. @Anon

    Smollatto, a perfect case of foot-in-the-mouth disease.

    Smollatto, whole lotta HATE HOAXIN’ goin’ on.

  140. BREAKING NOOSE:

    Empire star Jussie Smollett is expected to be indicted in “a matter of hours. Not days,” according to Chicago’s Fox 32 reporter Rafer Weigel.

    MOAR BREAKING NOOSE:

  141. Dtbb says:
    @MarcB.

    I am starting to think one should question all racially motivated crimes since the Civil War.

  142. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist, In Cleveland, there was a woman who avoided being stuck behind a school bus, red lights flashing, by daily driving around the bus on the sidewalk . Neighbors complained to the police who set up and observed her doing so. The judge, after the woman’s conviction, made her stand on the sidewalk with a sandwich board that read:” Only an idiot would drive on the sidewalk to avoid a stopped school bus”…paraphrasing. I think the sentence, plus fine, was for one week. People drove out of their way to see her serving her sentence. Bring back public shaming.

  143. @Rosamond Vincy

    Rosamond, No more burial. Makes it too hard to dig up miscreants when you need to pummel them.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  144. @syonredux

    Syon, the person in the photo with the whiskers …Ruth Bader Ginsburg in beard face?

  145. Perplexed says:
    @snorlax

    This would make a great Tyler Perry movie.

  146. @AndrewR

    Well, why don’t you cry about it.

  147. Ohhhhhhhh…. I just got that the whole “bleach” thing was probably intended to not be a chemical attack using whatever they had hand, but because they wanted to “bleach” out his “blackness.”

    Jussie should really tone down the level of symbolism in his hate hoaxes.

    Now, actually related to the article:

    There’s another (sub?)category of “hate” crimes that didn’t get explicit mention: When the prosecution throws whatever they think will stick at the defendant, and due to either stupidity or lack of a decent lawyer, the hate crime charge ends up sticking. Granted, I don’t have any concrete examples of this happening. However, if one were to review all the cases in which a hate crime was committed, I’m sure a decent number of them were only legally hate crimes; that is, the perpetrator wasn’t motivated by actual hate towards a minority, but took a plea bargain or otherwise didn’t defend himself against that charge.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  148. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    A Nov 2015 iSteve thread has some commenters following up on the Kerri Dunn case:

    Commenter Richard wrote at the time:

    What’s funny is that Kerri Dunn seems to have landed on her feet. […] she’s now an adjunct professor of psychology at John Jay College in New Jersey.

    Jack D wrote at the time:

    Apparently there is forgiveness in academia, but only for certain crimes

    Commenter eah wrote (comment-18):

    Dunn was a nutcase with real problems.

    A 2004 LA Times article about her: Claremont Professor’s Past Is a New Puzzle

    Arrested several times for shoplifting and other offenses before the hate hoax — at the time, Claremont did not do a criminal background check on prospective faculty (no idea if they do now or not). Converted to Judaism (maybe she thought it better for playing a victim).

    Ex-shoplifter and mid-late thirties convert to Judaism (sources say from Catholicism)? Whoa. It was also reported in 2004 that she was a lesbian.

    The middle section of the Kerri Dunn & Jussie Smollett Venn Diagram is well supplied with material: both hate crimes hoaxers; both homosexual; a certain other connection I will not comment on.

    Her public LinkedIn profile — seems to have a psychology job again — listed experience goes back only to 2004, with no mention of employment at Claremont of course — guess you can’t blame her for that omission.

    As of early 2019, her LinkedIn does list her Claremont time. Her LinkedIn for 2005 (presumably upon release from prison late that year) to 2009 suggests she was doing something else back home in NJ; a little academic exile:

    Recruiter: Investment banking, financial services (back/front office, trade), legal compliance
    Corporate Staffing,Ltd.
    New Jersey; New York

    She lists “Nutley High School” as part of her education. There seems to be only one of those in the world, in Essex Co., New Jersey (Greater NYC). (Jewish population: 9%. Trump-Hillary vote split: 20-77). As she looks thus to be from New Jersey, after release from prison it makes sense she returned.

    Here was Dunn in 2004, the year she turned 40:

    Her LinkedIn pic shows she has relatively gracefully aged, though the picture is awfully informal for LinkedIn (she has on oversized sunglasses and is at the beach).

    • Replies: @Anon
  149. we should erect in San Diego a 500′ tall Statue of Limitations with a poem on it reading:

    Along with a Statue of Statute of Limitations in Little Rock.

    And Albany as well, where that statute was repealed for rape by legislators represented in Washington by a certain Senator.

  150. @Lot

    That’s probably along with HVAC technician the least gay job in the world.

    You’d think their extensive experience with blowers would make HVAC the ideal trade for them.

  151. @Hypnotoad666

    Was gay even a “thing” back then?

    Interesting question. I’m sure there were people that had such proclivities, but the concept of having a “sexuality” and making it a central part of one’s identify is probably a modern function of people having lots of leisure time. For most human history, more immediate concerns (your next meal, not being killed by animals, etc) took up a much higher percentage of a person’s time. Being “gay” is frivolous and a by-product of decadence.

  152. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    This article show that the phenomenon and motives behind hate crime hoaxes were well understood even 15 year ago

    That’s not surprising since the understanding of all things racial has been going backwards for at least the last century.

    • Replies: @Hail
  153. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    The irony.

    The Narrative says that all through US history whites lied about black violence and lynched innocent blacks.
    So… Distrust whites, trust blacks.

    Jussie said, “Trust me, Trust me, I’m black, I’m black. I was attacked by whites, evil whites!”
    And in interviews, he appeared so upset that anyone would doubt a BLACK man. Why, that is ‘racist’, especially when the Maga-KKK thugs are still at large, probably stalking another black homo celebrity to douse with bleach and mock-hang with noose.

    But now, the whole case has come down to light-skinned Smollatto saying, “Don’t trust those blackity-black Nigerians. Trust a non-threatening mulatto like myself.”

    The big message went from “Don’t you dare doubt the Honest Negro” to “Don’t trust those blackity black Nigerian Negroes.”

  154. The Times is always on the lookout for dangling modifiers.

    That explains their obsessions with nooses and transwomen, both of which are made from modified danglers.

  155. bucky says:

    Say what you will, but the media actually wasn’t bad on the Jussie Smollett case. Yes, there were a few excitable outlets that went full-in on it, but the majority of the outlets simply reported the allegations…and then they were silent because they were waiting to see what happened. I think many had learned the lesson from Covington.

    All of that being said, this whole ordeal harms two people the most: Cory Booker and Kamala Harris. They really tipped their hand, showing how they really feel, by jumping in so quickly on this story. Unless there is a heartfelt apology, both are non-starters. I wonder if they will?

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  156. Hail says: • Website
    @snorlax

    the understanding of all things racial has been going backwards for at least the last century

    Were there hate hoaxes a century ago?

    • Replies: @snorlax
  157. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:

    “Jussie Smollett Hires Colin Kaepernick Attorney Mark Geragos”

    In the Current Year , it could mean, as well, that at the end Smollet walks away with $60-80 million as a part of the Settlement with Weimerica’s Finest.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  158. Lot says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    “Was gay even a “thing” back then?”

    Of course. Freddie the Great seems like he was exclusively homosexual and was king of Prussia during the American Revolution.

    The idea of it being a fixed sexual orientation rather than a vice came later though. But certainly they must have realized that some were more susceptible, like with drunkenness.

    • Replies: @Anon
  159. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Yes. And you probably met some too without realizing they were gay.

    The gay theory about Washington is IMO more believable than with Lincoln. He fathered no children, married an extremely homely+crazy woman, was obsessed with fashion, importing enormous quantities of silk and velvet clothes from Europe for which he painstakingly selected the cloth patterns himself and was likewise obsessed with throwing fancy dinner parties for which he imported enormous quantities of expensive wines and cheeses from Europe, spending so much on clothes and food that he went deeply into debt despite being one of the richest men in America.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @nebulafox
    , @Anon
  160. @Jack D

    Upton Sinclair said, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

    I’ve never understood the reverence for Upton Sinclair. A socialist probably further left than the entire Democratic Party of today, which is no mean feat, he wrote a supposed expose that turned out to be made up from whole cloth. And he restated obvious truths like the one you quoted that have been known pretty much since man started using deceitful words to outmaneuver opponents. That a stupid liar like him has been put on a pedestal just about sums up the chokehold that the institutional left has over our education system.

  161. Lot says:
    @snorlax

    So what are the least gay jobs in America then?

    I’d think agriculture and construction and building trades.

  162. @Olorin

    ” Their base consists of literal hive-dwelling borgmatrix surplus eaters who are proud to be so weakened and debased. ”

    This is something that intrigued me for a while: Has any of them anywhere, done anything that our grandparents would consider an honest days work?

  163. Lot says:
    @Percy Gryce

    San Diegans like to keep it casual. No hyphens, lots of cargo shorts.

    • LOL: Percy Gryce
  164. athEIst says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    That treachery with the safe passage and then the burning at the stake of Jan Hus was really over the top.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  165. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    It would have been so much simpler if Hate Hoax Kit is marketed as a product.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  166. @Jack D

    Every gay man always believes these two things:

    1. That all male historical figures were really and secretly gay.

    Black people are the same – Shakespeare, Mozart etc – all black. Certainly delusional. Imagine if someone was both black AND gay… the heightened self-esteem of one and the narcissism of the other. They might end up creating an unsuccessful hate hoax in order to put their pretty selves on a pedestal.

  167. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Black Lies Matter

  168. Steve, while you should be lauded for the concept, the fact that you’ve been shouting “Hate Hoax” for so long but its not yet been meme’d suggests someone needs to add some variations rhetorically. Just because we like it doesn’t mean the concept can catch on with the masses.

    Remember, Trump doesn’t call her “Fauxcahontas” or “Liawatha”, he calls her “Pocahontas.” Which one caught on? And which ones were the more “clever” ones we of the Dissident Right liked?

    Plus, your readers have the disadvantage that if “Hate Hoax” does eventually catch on, it will be traced to you, and therefore everyone who uses it will be called White Supremacist Racist Hitler Badthink Whitey because they read you.

    I would suggest to any Dissident Right lurkers—try some variations on “Hate Hoax” out that work better rhetorically. We can always credit Steve in the history books.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  169. Mr. Anon says:

    Statue of Limitations

    Nation of Immigrants? Talk to the Hand!

  170. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    Perhaps you know better than I. I would note that a lot of things which we now consider “effeminate” or “gay” – wearing frills and wigs and high heels, and powdering your face, etc. were considered “masculine” in British upper class circles of the time and that the Virginia planters patterned themselves after British high society.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  171. FPD72 says:

    Oil well drilling crews, although who knows what goes on at the rig during the midnight tour?

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  172. Vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    Every gay man always believes these two things…

    Not “every” and not “always,” of course.

    But, yeah, detecting signs of homosexuality in historical figures is kind of a favorite pastime of gay men.

    If said historical figures were good guys, that’s ’cause they were gay. If they were bad guys, that’s ’cause they suppressed it.

    Unfortunately, this story isn’t always wrong.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  173. @Vinteuil

    “Queer History” is a thing in academia. A bunch of homos desperately trying to pin sodomy on any historical figure. Never mind that homosexual behavior was considered base and disgusting even in societies that tolerated it (including the Greeks) , and that when Christianity came about homosexual behavior was blasted in sermons; nope, say the homos, its all just proof that homosexuals are everywhere!

    Of course, this clip from The Goodbye Girl (the worse TNT version) is obligatory:

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  174. @al-Gharaniq

    How often do you see cases where a hate crime charge is stacked on top of a basic charge: e.g., a guy gets drunk and smacks his common-law wife and calls her a bitch, and the use of that word is used to justify adding a hate crime charge? I really don’t know how common this is.

    I would think it better to restrict hate crime charges to cases in which the criminal doesn’t have anything personal against his victim, he just hates a category of people.

    E.g., if young Liam Neeson had beat up some random black guy to avenge some other black guy raping his loved one, that ought to be a hate crime. Society has an obvious interest in discouraging these kind of attacks because they can spread indefinitely.

    But if young Liam Neeson tracks down and beats up the actual rapist, but calls him the N word while doing it, that ought not to be a hate crime. It ought to be a regular crime, because society also has an interest in discouraging people taking the law into their own hands, but specific vengeance has less severe potential than random vengeance on a group.

  175. Vinteuil says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Right-leaning websites are notoriously badly designed, including unz.com. The Drudge Report is the archetypal example. Bare and functional. Lefties are more creative, so they get the design right…

    fatehatecrimes.org really does look awful, because of the colors – but what’s wrong “bare and functional?”

    Could you give me an example of a lefty website with a design that’s both creative and functional?

  176. @Steve Sailer

    Hate crimes were a gift to leftists because lefties commit a lot more crimes and therefore, they whined, were “disproportionately punished.” So hate crimes were a way to over punish whiteys— if a white punches a black and calls him a racial insult, hate crime! But if a black does it to a white—eh, inconclusive evidence, can’t charge!.

    Basically, it was planned to be a prosecutorial discretion thing: to be charged mostly against whites when racial tensions were high so as calm blacks down about being the bad guys. Call it also a political gift to District Attorneys in big cities worried about the next election.

  177. nebulafox says:
    @snorlax

    >He fathered no children

    He was likely sterile due to smallpox.

    >married an extremely homely+crazy woman

    Who also happened to be rich heiress and an uncommonly loyal, dedicated wife.

    >spending so much on clothes and food that he went deeply into debt despite being one of the richest men in America.

    Extremely common among the Virginia aristocracy. Debt was a way of life among planters: it was deeply embedded in the culture to outdo your neighbors. Jefferson, too, was deep in debt all his life.

    It is important to not forcibly transplant modern norms on previous ages. Washington was basically the colonial version of the Marlboro Man, as much for his fashion sense and dancing abilities as for his war stories and physical strength. Especially in the upper classes, the former was just as important.

    And leaving that aside, for much of human history, homosexuality or bisexuality did not necessarily equate to effeminacy, either. It still doesn’t, despite how the media-catering to straight women, I’d imagine-would have it. Just ask your average homosexual military dude or metalhead or physics geek how enthusiastic he is when straight women, upon learning that he’s gay, immediately start talking feelings about their boyfriends or how to do nails or something. Hint: not very.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  178. syonredux says:
    @Anon

    Here’s a passage from Owen Wister’s classic The Virginian on lynching:

    “Judge Henry,” said Molly Wood, also coming straight to the point, “have you come to tell me that you think well of lynching?”

    He met her. “Of burning Southern negroes in public, no. Of hanging Wyoming cattle thieves in private, yes. You perceive there’s a difference, don’t you?”

    “Not in principle,” said the girl, dry and short.

    “Oh—dear—me!” slowly exclaimed the Judge. “I am sorry that you cannot see that, because I think that I can. And I think that you have just as much sense as I have.” The Judge made himself very grave and very good-humored at the same time. The poor girl was strung to a high pitch, and spoke harshly in spite of herself.

    “What is the difference in principle?” she demanded.

    “Well,” said the Judge, easy and thoughtful, “what do you mean by principle?”

    “I didn’t think you’d quibble,” flashed Molly. “I’m not a lawyer myself.”

    A man less wise than Judge Henry would have smiled at this, and then war would have exploded hopelessly between them, and harm been added to what was going wrong already. But the Judge knew that he must give to every word that the girl said now his perfect consideration.

    “I don’t mean to quibble,” he assured her. “I know the trick of escaping from one question by asking another. But I don’t want to escape from anything you hold me to answer. If you can show me that I am wrong, I want you to do so. But,” and here the Judge smiled, “I want you to play fair, too.”

    “And how am I not?”

    I want you to be just as willing to be put right by me as I am to be put right by you. And so when you use such a word as principle, you must help me to answer by saying what principle you mean. For in all sincerity I see no likeness in principle whatever between burning Southern negroes in public and hanging Wyoming horse-thieves in private. I consider the burning a proof that the South is semi-barbarous, and the hanging a proof that Wyoming is determined to become civilized. We do not torture our criminals when we lynch them. We do not invite spectators to enjoy their death agony. We put no such hideous disgrace upon the United States. We execute our criminals by the swiftest means, and in the quietest way. Do you think the principle is the same?”

    Molly had listened to him with attention. “The way is different,” she admitted.

    “Only the way?”

    “So it seems to me. Both defy law and order.”

    “Ah, but do they both? Now we’re getting near the principle.”

    “Why, yes. Ordinary citizens take the law in their own hands.”

    “The principle at last!” exclaimed the Judge.

    “Now tell me some more things. Out of whose hands do they take the law?”

    “The court’s.”

    “What made the courts?”

    “I don’t understand.”

    “How did there come to be any courts?”

    “The Constitution.”

    “How did there come to be any Constitution? Who made it?”

    “The delegates, I suppose.”

    “Who made the delegates?”

    “I suppose they were elected, or appointed, or something.”

    “And who elected them?”

    “Of course the people elected them.”

    “Call them the ordinary citizens,” said the Judge. “I like your term. They are where the law comes from, you see. For they chose the delegates who made the Constitution that provided for the courts. There’s your machinery. These are the hands into which ordinary citizens have put the law. So you see, at best, when they lynch they only take back what they once gave. Now we’ll take your two cases that you say are the same in principle. I think that they are not. For in the South they take a negro from jail where he was waiting to be duly hung. The South has never claimed that the law would let him go. But in Wyoming the law has been letting our cattle-thieves go for two years. We are in a very bad way, and we are trying to make that way a little better until civilization can reach us. At present we lie beyond its pale. The courts, or rather the juries, into whose hands we have put the law, are not dealing the law. They are withered hands, or rather they are imitation hands made for show, with no life in them, no grip. They cannot hold a cattle-thief. And so when your ordinary citizen sees this, and sees that he has placed justice in a dead hand, he must take justice back into his own hands where it was once at the beginning of all things. Call this primitive, if you will. But so far from being a DEFIANCE of the law, it is an ASSERTION of it—the fundamental assertion of self governing men, upon whom our whole social fabric is based. There is your principle, Miss Wood, as I see it. Now can you help me to see anything different?”

    She could not.

    “But perhaps you are of the same opinion still?” the Judge inquired.

    “It is all terrible to me,” she said.

    “Yes; and so is capital punishment terrible. And so is war. And perhaps some day we shall do without them. But they are none of them so terrible as unchecked theft and murder would be.”

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  179. nebulafox says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I can’t speak for colonial America, but homosexuality as an identity didn’t exist in ancient Rome, pre-Crisis of the Third Century at least. As long as you were the dominant partner, it was perfectly expected that a Roman free citizen man would take lovers of both sexes.

    It *was* considered a little bit of a faux pas to be exclusively interested in men, as Hadrian (who would definitely be gay by modern standards) was: a little too “Greek” and Eastern for the supposedly rustic Latins. But it was also considered a little weird to be exclusively interested in women, like Claudius was.

    Speaking of the ancient Greeks, women and marriage were an unfortunate necessity to keep the polis going. Real men embarked on self-improvement oriented affairs with other men! Harummph!

  180. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Obviously, fashions change. But the British did consider the French fashions for frillier frills, fancier wigs and higher heels to be effeminate and gay, and likewise with being a “dandy,” which Washington most certainly was.

    Bear in mind I don’t think Washington was gay, I was just saying it’s IMO more likely than Lincoln having been gay.

  181. Jefferson says:

    The same Leftists who still stubbornly believe Jussie Smollett was lynched by the KKK are the same Leftists who say Donald Trump engages in emotions and not facts.

  182. @athEIst

    Sigismund was sincere when he made it, and protested when he was disregarded, but Hus wasn’t naive–he made his will before going to Constance.

  183. @Buffalo Joe

    Southerners better start guarding Confederate cemetaries. The SJWs are going to start digging up 12-year-old drummer boys and backwoods men who were conscripted even though they never owned a slave in their lives.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @Anon
  184. AndrewR says:
    @Steve Sailer

    But if young Liam Neeson tracks down and beats up the actual rapist, but calls him the N word while doing it, that ought not to be a hate crime

    But he would be charged with a hate crime because that’s how our country works. Not only are hate crime laws only used against whites, they’re used to charge whites with felonies for minor (if any) crimes if the white uses a naughty word.

    https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/20/us/hate-crime-charges-mlk-jr-day/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

  185. snorlax says:
    @nebulafox

    He was likely sterile due to smallpox.

    Sure, but having been gay is a plausible-enough alternative explanation.

    Who also happened to be rich heiress and an uncommonly loyal, dedicated wife.

    He’s virtually alone among the Founders in that he isn’t known to have ever had a mistress, despite having one of the ugliest and craziest wives.

    Extremely common among the Virginia aristocracy. Debt was a way of life among planters: it was deeply embedded in the culture to outdo your neighbors. Jefferson, too, was deep in debt all his life.

    Washington’s rate of expenditure and degree of “dandy”-ness was unusual even by Virginia planter standards.

    And leaving that aside, for much of human history, homosexuality or bisexuality did not necessarily equate to effeminacy, either. It still doesn’t

    Sure, that’s basically what I’ve been getting at in some of my other posts ITT, but nevertheless effeminacy and adult* male same-sex attraction have been pretty consistently correlated throughout history, even if not all gay men are effeminate and not all effeminate men are gay.

    *Pederasty was/is usually considered masculine (for the adult) in cultures that practice it.

  186. Kylie says:
    @Abe

    I thought “toxic princessity” was very good.

  187. @FPD72

    I once heard of a song titled “Frigging in the rigging,” the rest of the lyrics escape me.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  188. Vinteuil says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Funny clip. But have you ever read the first few pages of the Charmides?

    There’s a lot of interesting stuff there about temperance/moderation/self-control, but I have to provide my students with a severely…rephrased…version to avoid possible misunderstanding…

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  189. nebulafox says:

    >He’s virtually alone among the Founders in that he isn’t known to have ever had a mistress, despite having one of the ugliest and craziest wives.

    Adams never had one, either, for the same reasons: personality and a strong existing marriage.

    It’s not that I’m somehow against Washington being gay, to be clear, and anything is possible. But I genuinely don’t believe it. I find Washington’s personality (gallantly comforting the wife of Benedict Arnold as she lied right to his face) to be a more plausible explanation factor than closeted homosexuality. Behind all the upper class expenditures, he was an reserved, totally single-minded man who really did take all the gentleman and honor stuff seriously.

    >Washington’s rate of expenditure and degree of “dandy”-ness was unusual even by Virginia planter standards.

    Was it? I’m now genuinely interested: please elaborate. 🙂

    (It’s so hard through online mediums to make it clear to someone you are actually interested in learning rather than being sarcastic or attacking them for sources or whatever, hence the smiley.)

    >Sure, that’s basically what I’ve been getting at in some of my other posts ITT, but nevertheless effeminacy and adult* male same-sex attraction have been pretty consistently correlated throughout history, even if not all gay men are effeminate and not all effeminate men are gay.

    It is, but that’s not the same thing as saying the majority of gay men fit the flamboyant stereotype. I’ve found it to be the opposite, and I really do think this is an undesirable stereotype for gays and straights alike. I will grant that my company (science/coding geeks, punk rockers/metalheads, former or active duty military men) is pretty self-selected itself, though.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  190. rufus says:
    @Tyrion 2

    huh ? wouldnt that be the hero in the orwell scenario ?

  191. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    I clearly didn’t claim that, but I appreciate you marking yourself as a bad faith commenter. My dad has probably always had a higher net worth than my cousin anyway. My obvious point was that he cut us out of his life regardless. If someone can cut non-mooch kin out, they can obviously cut mooch kin out even more easily.

  192. Philip says:

    Two days after the. 2016 a young Muslim women said she was confronted by maga men in a nyc subway. Her reason she was afraid that her father would be angry with her for coming home late. A boy of course. The narrative is all.

  193. @Charles Pewitt

    Tobias Smollett was an 18th. Cent. Scottish poet and novelist of some distinction – a distant relation perhaps?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  194. snorlax says:
    @nebulafox

    Was it? I’m now genuinely interested: please elaborate. 🙂

    That’s how he’s portrayed in Joseph J. Ellis’ biography His Excellency: George Washington — I listened to it on tape so I don’t have specific page numbers.

    Agreed re: gay sterotypes, although I too would caveat that my social circle is very STEM-heavy.

  195. @Ancient Briton

    Assuming Smollett is Jussie’s father’s surname, a lot of Jewish immigrants around 1900 would adopt Anglo-American writers’ names as first or last names: Irving (Washington Irving) and Sidney (Sir Philip Sidney, Elizabethan soldier and poet), for example. So picking Smollett after Scottish comic novelist Tobias Smollett would be an example of assimilation.

    It seems like a good system for coming up with euphonious names with classy associations, although in the cases of Irving and Sidney too many piled on and it became a cliche to make fun of in Mad Magazine.

    John Kerry’s grandfather picked “Kerry” off a map of Western Europe — an excellent choice of a scenic part of Ireland that’s easy for Americans to spell and has not become a cliche.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Hail
  196. @Calvin X Hobbes

    Col. Klink and Sgt. Schultz were both played by actors of jewish heritage.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  197. @Steve Sailer

    E.g., if young Liam Neeson had beat up some random black guy to avenge some other black guy raping his loved one, that ought to be a hate crime.

    Nah, killing an innocent black based on hot-blooded anger has no worse effect on the victim than if it were just Mr. Neeson shooting his gun at the nearest person of any race who is completely innocent. If you start making new crime designations based on the effect on the community, you are far, far from the ideas developed over 1,000 years by our British/American forefathers.

    What’ll be next then, making up new crimes of bad speech due to the effect it has on the population that doesn’t want to hear it? Though that’s not been encoded into law, it’s been effectively used to force cancellation of talks that bring up “sensitive” issues (Ann Coulter, James Watson, etc., as I’m sure you know about.) This stuff can easily creep away from just violent criminal acts to all kinds of crimes.

    Discretion in prosecution of “hate crimes” to only aim the charge at white people* (as pointed out by Mr. Camara and Andrew R) is indeed the way all this will be used, and the way it has already been. You are opening up a big extra-judicial can of worms with this stuff. Additionally, though you don’t mean it this way, the hate-crime charge ends up being a form of double-jeopardy. Sure, there’s not enough evidence to convict on the murder charge, but we’ll just have another trial on the hate-crime charge – that’s the way it’s already been used.

    I am dead set against the whole stupid hate-crime idea. That and any Affirmative Action for ANYONE are two things I strongly disagree with you on. (That’s not a whole lot, in the scheme of things …)

    .

    * Ever, ever, in you entire life, Steve, seen blacks brought up on hate-crime charges? It wasn’t even seriously discussed by anyone in the justice system in the Knoxville Horror case, in which the blacks tortured, raped, and killed the young white couple.

  198. @Vinteuil

    I’ve read enough Greek (in translation) and about Ancient Greeks to know they had a larger-than-average gay stuff, and they regulated it. That’s fact; the Sacred Band and all that. .

    But Queer History is about finding gays behind every corner, no matter what.

    It’s like some racist claiming that only race X made all major scientific discoveries, and if someone not of Race X made a discovery, well, he must’ve been secretly Race X, and then they make up a genealogy about it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  199. @Rosamond Vincy

    Rosamond, Haven’t they already done that?

  200. @Olorin

    Um, that was pretty well stated. Outstanding, in fact.

  201. Svigor says:

    It’s a cry fa help, goy.

    But only when fringe perp and core vic.

  202. Corvinus says:

    “I’m not a lawyer, but if I were, I’d advise anybody out there considering staging a hate hoax: Don’t do it. There are a whole lot of laws on the books and one of them might be used against you.”

    This. That is all that needed to be said by you. But you let the California sun get to your head.

    “You can call it Sailer’s Boast: Whenever there is some remarkably dumb development flabbergasting the respectable pundits, I’ve no doubt explained the entire phenomenon years ago in various Taki’s columns.”

    Call it Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts, such as “white fragility”, “safe spaces”, “race realism”, or “KKKrazyKlue”, that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    “For example, the sidesplitting Jussie Smollett fake noose story is a classic example of the Hate Hoax phenomenon…In contrast, The New York Times, for instance, has never even printed the term “hate hoax.””

    Probably because all or most of these incidents are other than “hoaxes”, yet you carefully craft the narrative to suggest that 90% end up falling in this category.

    “But few of these legitimate hate-crime cases get extravagant national media attention because the cops immediately arrest the offenders, and prosecutors see that they are severely punished. There’s no controversy to write about day after day.”

    I would not say “immediately”, as such cases require investigation by law enforcement. Or course, there are stories out there in the media regarding how many reported hate crimes actually end up being crimes and what percentage end up being hoaxes.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/fake-hate-crime-reports-pose-serious-problems-for-the-accused-and-actual-victims

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/12/20/hoaxes-harm-real-victims/9iIVKVrHuKpHLYEDXLrQuL/story.html

    “For example, the sidesplitting Jussie Smollett fake noose story is a classic example of the Hate Hoax phenomenon”

    Which does not mean that every case involving a “hate crime” will turn out to be a “hoax”. The problem is that Smollett only adds fuel to the Alt Right who insists we automatically discount those events when they occur. Of course, the left does not help in similar fashion when they incessantly yap that we must assume that event is an “open and shut case”.

    “But to the prestige press there’s no such thing as a pattern of purported hate crimes routinely imploding embarrassingly.”

    But to the Alt Right there’s no such thing as actual occurrences of “hate crimes” which end up being exceedingly excruciating for them to admit.

    “So, I’m going to take another victory lap to review what I’ve figured out about hate hysteria over the past fifteen years.”

    You mean run around in circles.

  203. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Smola ( the Slavic word for tar or pitch) was a not uncommon E. European surname (meaning one whose occupation is the distillation of those products), found among both Jews and non-Jews. If I had to guess, the Smola family changed their name to Smollett at some point after landing on these shores because it was classier and less “ethnic”.

  204. Anon[614] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    This is true, and not just in the ghetto.

    I personally found myself reducing my salary from my own company because if I brought the money into the family my wife would somehow get it to her parents who had an insolvent company that they just would not kill off and get jobs. Her nephews were also a constant source of money gimmes. The school requires uniforms, can you pay for them? Uh, no. I convinced my wife to ixnay on that.

    There was a Hawaiian sumo wrestler who made it to the top tier. After his retirement, when he was more open about his private life, a show in Japan had him on and reported on his family. When he got back to Hawaii after his initial success, he found all his siblings and cousins had new cars, for which he was expected to pay under traditional Hawaii’s what’s-yours-is-mine culture. He bought his mom a new house, then noticed that it was on the block in the newpaper ads: She was selling it to give money to some family moocher, a brother if I recall correctly, that the sumo wrestler himself had finally managed to say no to.

    I think that this family mooching situation is an opportunity for a special kind of financial advisor who would come in and ask reasonable questions. In fact, if companies could package this sort of service as a perk, it could attract certain sorts of good employees.

    In my own situation I found that as a semi-outsider, the moment that I start asking pointed questions the demands drop off. I managed to get hold of a financial statement for the family’s insolvent company that showed a dozen loans and I used that information to shut down requests for help in paying off one of them, since now that the extent of the problem was known to the whole family, the pointlessness of paying on just one loan was obvious. I suggested an attorney and trying for balance reduction and consolidation. I found that any suggestion of bringing in someone from the outside shuts things down quickly.

    Having a third party come in and asking people to prepare budgets would shut down a lot of begging, since that would reveal expenses on shit that they should not be spending money on in their financial circumstances. Offering to pay for an appointment with a financial planner would be a good passive-aggressive move (“make sure to bring copies of all your bills and expenses!”): A lot of moochers know that they are financially irresponsible and don’t need anyone to tell them that.

    For situations like the sumo wrestler’s mom, a third party company could hold title to the home, and periodically inspect it to make sure mom was living there, nobody else was living there, and it was being taken care of. When mom complains, “Hey mom, you’re gonna have to deal with them, sorry, it’s out of my hands.” In this manner, any request for a legitimate thing you do want to help out on should be structured in a way that cannot be converted to cash to use in some other way.

  205. Anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    When will hate crimes start to backfire, do you think?

    I reckon that there are more blacks killing and beating YTs and “chanks” and faggots, than there are whites vs. blacks. If enforcement were truly fair, and it seems to be headed that way, you’re going to hear charges that “they’re filling up the prisons with black bodies!”

  206. ic1000 says:
    @Jack Armstrong

    > Col. Klink and Sgt. Schultz were both played by actors of jewish heritage.

    Werner Klemperer insisted that the Germans never “win” an episode of the show. From the NYT obit:

    Renee Graham of the Boston Globe wrote] “… Let’s be clear here: Nazis are never, ever funny. Ever…”

    Such criticisms through the years bothered Mr. Klemperer. ”The show was never intended to be viewed in a serious light,” he said in 1999. ”Whenever anyone tries to overanalyze ‘Hogan’s Heroes’ I merely tell them that it was a funny show, a wonderful show, and I’m very proud of it. And that’s the end of that.”

    But Mr. Klemperer also had early misgivings about the series. He was offered the role as the Nazi commandant by CBS but his agent failed to tell him that it was humorous. When Mr. Klemperer learned that the show was a comedy, he said he was stunned.

    ”I had one qualification when I took the job: if they ever wrote a segment whereby Colonel Klink would come out the hero, I would leave the show.”

  207. ic1000 says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you are a silly person.

  208. @Buffalo Joe

    Just statues, to my knowledge. I suppose corpses are next.

  209. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I looked at Abe again. He does have some kind of tool like a screw driver or long awl in his right hand

  210. Hail says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer

    John Kerry’s grandfather

    What is the verdict on whether John Kerry knew about his Jewish heritage?

    I recall he and Madeleine Albright both claim to have had no idea — until it was revealed at the height of their success. I am surely not the only one to think skepticism may be warranted.

    John Kerry (b.1943)’s Ellis Island Jewish grandparents arrived in 1905. They were:

    Frederick A. Kerry, shoe merchant
    – born as Fritz Kohn, Bennisch, Austria [now Horni Benešov, Czech Republic], 10 May 1873;
    – sailed (with his wife and son Erich [b.1901]) on the Koenigin Luise departing from Genoa, Italy, on 4 May 1905 and arriving in New York (Ellis Island) on 18 May 1905;
    – died (suicide by pistol shot to the head in the men’s lavatory of the Copley Plaza Hotel) Boston, Mass., 23 Nov. 1921.

    Ida Löwe,
    – born Budapest, Hungary, 22 Feb. 1877;
    – died Sarasota, Fla., 19 Jan. 1960

    John Kerry would have been sixteen when his grandmother — who arrived at Ellis Island in her late 20s and would have thus had an accent — died; John Kerry really always thought she was an “Irish Catholic”? This stretches plausibility to its breaking point.

    (Incidentally, it appears John Kerry has no actual Irish Catholic ancestry despite claiming the identity.)

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    , @Anon
  211. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    When Jane Austen books moved from English literature to Wimims Studies departments it was discovered that Jane and her sister Cassandra were lesbian lovers. Proof? They never married and lived in the same house till Jane died.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  212. @Lot

    Abe as Joshua Speed remembers him.

    Or, more likely, Abe as you fantasize about him.

  213. @Corvinus

    Corvinus! I was surprised it took you so long to return to your turd polishing. Too busy selling smart pills to school children? Well, we are all glad you are back defending the indefensible.

  214. @Anon

    I think that would be a pretty reasonable service for colleges to offer star recruits: the billionaire who is the main backer of the athletic department could offer his financial adviser gratis to star athletes when they go pro. His job would be to turn down all the cousins’ plans that the kid should invest in a nightclub for him to run.

  215. @Anon

    The phenomenon you describe so well is what I call ‘neposuction’, i.e. pretty much the opposite of nepotism. It’s also a big drag on numerous Asian cultures.

    • Replies: @Anon
  216. @bucky

    “All of that being said, this whole ordeal harms two people the most: Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.”

    Say, aren’t those the sponsors of that new anti-lynching bill? Talk about coincidences…

  217. @Steve Sailer

    I honestly don’t know—my intuition may very well be off on this. I only base it off the tendency for prosecutors to throw the book at defendants and the added benefit for them of being able to claim “I prosecuted X amount of hate crimes” for promotion or political reasons.

    There are plenty of plausible scenarios where a prosecutor or DA tries to get a plea bargain by dropping some long shot charges, but the defendant refuses to accept and actually gets charged with, say, a hate crime.

    Any investigation into this would be time consuming, with no guarantees of finding an inflated hate crime rate due to prosecutorial discretion. But it still is an interesting question given the current hate crime moral panic.

  218. @Anon

    So much for contemporary descriptions of Jane as a silly, pretty (but ultimately unsuccessful) husband-hunter. So much also for speculation that Persuasion was based on Jane’s own disrupted romance.

    So much also for the Regency custom of respectable single women not living alone, to the point that those with no living relatives hired chaperones, if they could afford it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  219. Trevor H. says:
    @Sergeant Prepper

    It’s a very good point, because I find that a lot of people imagine the insanity is something new. It’s been going on for fifty years–a bit more in some places, a bit less in others.

    This is not to say it hasn’t been intensifying. But in the 1990s, when I taught in college, what you describe went entirely without saying. It’s sort of like self-censorship: the ultimate victory of the censors is that their work becomes unnecessary.

  220. Trevor H. says:
    @Hail

    The horse face should have been an additional tip off. Looks like Sarah Jessica Parker.

    • Replies: @Hail
  221. Trevor H. says:
    @Anon

    This is also a reason so many people enforced residential restrictions to the nth degree. People were well aware that there were good, decent black folks; and you might get lucky. But then there were the friends and relations.

  222. Trevor H. says:
    @syonredux

    “We” will destroy your culture’s heroes, even those of whom we approve.

  223. Trevor H. says:
    @Anonymous

    Even Bethany calls them “mistakes” like oopsie I made a booboo. BTW who are all these Mandels? Why should we listen to them?

  224. Trevor H. says:
    @Anon

    Prosecuting hate-crime hoaxes is going to lead to too much Disparate Impact. I suggest we tread very carefully.

  225. slumber_j says:
    @Kirt

    Yeah: we need a Male of the Year now more than ever in Donald Trump’s Divided America.

    The first award brought forth perhaps my favorite Steve Sailer sentence ever:

    The 2015 iSteve Male of the Year award goes to a man who vividly represents so many facets of the American male in the 21st Century: his diversity, vagueness, obscure heritage, strange destiny, poverty, multiculturalism, dreams of violence, feelings of guilt, terrible job, worse friends, professional cuckoldry, and vague, gnawing awareness that he’s just a hapless patsy in much larger schemes that, if he could only understand them, would turn out to be even stupider than he is.

  226. Hail says: • Website
    @Trevor H.

    These are purportedly John Kerry’s parents:

    Richard John Kerry (father’s birth name, Kohn),
    diplomat, lawyer, and writer
    b. 1915 in Brookline, Mass., d. 2000 in Mass.

    m. Montgomery, Ala., 8 Feb. 1941

    Rosemary Isabel Forbes
    b. 1913 in Paris, France;
    d. 2002 in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass.

    John ‘Kohn’ Kerry has four grandchildren:

    In ethnic terms, two are half-Persian, quarter-Jewish, quarter-WASP, and two are quarter-Jewish, three-quarters WASP-like NW-European.

    One of Kerry’s ethnically-half-Jewish daughters (Alex) looks particularly Jewish:

    “On the left is Julien Dobbs-Higginson, who is believed to be her husband.”

    LinkedIn:

    Julien was born in Tokyo [born ca. 1972], is French and English and tri-cultural (French, English and American). He has lived and worked in Europe, America and Asia and is a global citizen and Adult Third Culture Kid/Adult who can leverage a commercial and visual network around the world.

    Daughter Alex Kerry (b.1973)’s husband Julien Dobbs-Higginson attended a prestigious boarding school. Daughter Vanessa Kerry (b.1976)’s husband, Dr. Brian Vala Nahed (born ca. 1976), is from a rich, LA Persian family, perhaps ’79ers; Brian Nahed and Vanessa Kerry were married at an Episcopal church.

    In conclusion, old Fritz Kohn, born a Jewish subject of the ‘Austrian’ Hapsburg Empire in 1873, has presumably disappointed the Jewish nation — while he does have four great-great-grandchildren via prominent descendant John Kerry, none of them are Jewish. (The odds must be decent good that at least one of the four might end up embracing a Jewish identity growing up, given the prestige attached to that identity.)

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rosamond Vincy
  227. Just had to add a noose quote from Supt. Johnson of CPD press conference without comment.

    “I am left hanging my head asking ‘why?’ Why would anyone — especially an African American man — use the symbolism of a noose to make false accusation,” Johnson added.

    • Replies: @Anon
  228. @MEH 0910

    MEH, Stupid example of “High Fashion”, but that is what a real noose looks like…not a dog lease draped over a tree branch or a closes line draped over your neck like a scarf.

  229. @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Paula Deen, admitted under oath, that she had ONCE used the N-Word. Of course she said the word while describing to her husband, the robber who held a gun to her head. Shamed off the air.

  230. @Rosamond Vincy

    Rosamond, of course the confusion stems from the fact that Robert E. Lee was a para trooper during the Civil War.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  231. @Buffalo Joe

    Even if they didn’t bother to read the inscription, wouldn’t the uniforms be a clue? I’ve never done a WWII reenactment, but I think I can tell their clothes from 19th-century.

  232. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @South Texas Guy

    I saw the statement one sentence about Smollett and the rest about the evil southern democrats who lynched blacks. A liberal friend yellow dog life long Democrat has been yapping about how Smollett trivializes the real victims of lynching I just repeated it was southern democrats who did the lynching and the KKK was all Democrats including senators and SC justices.

    Of course she’s old. Most liberals under 60 who went to college believe that the lynchers and KKK were Republicans

    That’s the current line. Smother the hate crime hoax by endless evocation of lynching

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  233. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Lots of Jews, especially men left Judaism in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

    • Replies: @Hail
  234. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Almost all the Persian drs in LA are Jews. See if you can find out where he grew up. Beverly Hills West Los Angeles Jew. Malibu Zoroastrian north of the Santa mountains (the valley) Muslim catholic or other sect of Christian. Financially Muslims have the least money and the sleaziest little businesses and humdrum jobs.

    • Replies: @Hail
  235. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    So you don’t think black men raping White women is a hate crime.? It’s a very common hate crime.

    My opinion is that a black man raping a woman of another race should be a death penalty offense no exceptions unless the animal is younger than 12. Then he should be surgically castrated and incarcerated for several years till his testosterone levels are way down. Any seeds implanted should be removed to prevent another black criminal growing up.

    When rapists were lynched and hung after a trial few women were raped. When lynching ended and the liberals came up with the “To Kill a Mockingbird “ defense black on White rapes soared.

    Rape is a serial crime like shoplifting. Rapists rape many times. Prison doesn’t stop them. As soon as they get out they rape again. It’s not uncommon for a rapist out on bail awaiting trial for one rape to commit another rape even during trial.

    So if they’re lynched, executed whatever the first time they’re caught they won’t commit dozens of more rapes till they get old and lose interest.

    People who’ve never worked in law enforcement don’t realize how common rape, especially of child family members is in the black world.

    Arresting an animal for one tale often leads to closing several rape cases. All it needs is a man investigator to listen to the motor mouth and the rapist animal will start bragging about other rapes he’s committed. And the DNA and other physical evidence confirms motor mouth’s statement

    Want to end rape? hang them high

  236. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    There were several European monarchs who were openly gay. But it was just their sex life, not their entire life as it sometimes is now.

    I mean you never read about Nancy Pelosi the heterosexual speaker of the house. Brad Pitt the heterosexual actor.
    So and so the openly heterosexual Mayor of our city.

    But if someone is gay it’s always the first thing mentioned about them.

  237. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    How much damage did she do to her car that she put in an insurance claim? Between the deductible and the raised premiums every time a claim is made it would have been better to just pay to get the car fixed

    Looks like she converted to Judaism just in time for the hate hoax.

  238. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    The thing about Lincoln is that he and his friend were roommates and slept in the same bed. But in those days there was no such thing as a single bed.All beds were double beds. They were narrow bunks for dorms and barracks and small beds for children younger than 6 but the normal bed was a double bed. Twin bed sets were invented in the 1920s. Before that it was one double bed in a bedroom

    People staying in inns and small hotels as Lincoln did as a trader and out of town attorney slept in double beds with complete strangers.

    Washington may have married for love but his wife was the wealthiest woman in all the colonies and the 6 th wealthiest person. That’s a good reason for marriage. She inherited it from her first husband

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  239. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    I’m a Jane Austen fan. It’s interesting to see how literary criticism follows the current idiot intellectual fads.

    First one I read was Mansfield Park. Heroine Fanny marries cousin Edmund. Edmund’s parents raised Fanny in their home. The book was a 1930s edition when Freudian crapology especially child parent incest was popular. I read the preface.

    Fanny married Edmund because she was actually in love with his father, her foster father. The book made it clear that the parents were very much in love and very compatible. The idiot intellectual crapologist claimed the only reason the father was so in love with his wife was that he sublimated his love for Fanny.

    Even at 12 I knew that was a crock. The parents had been married at least 18 years before Fanny came to live with them.

    By the 1960s Freudian crapology was out and Marxism was in. The family were evil capitalist landowners exploiting their tenants and employees. Jane was an evil capitalist rich lady who didn’t write about the exploited factory workers and the economic problems and ignored the poor.

    Then along came feminazis and Jane was no longer an evil capitalist rich lady but a poor miserable oppressed woman who couldn’t vote couldn’t be in parliament yadda yadda yadda

    Then some blacks noticed that the family had business interests in the Caribbean. The book didn’t say they owned a plantation and owned slaves, just business interests. But evil slave ownership was assumed

    So Jane was brought down from her grievance pedestal as oppressed woman who couldn’t be a lawyer or army officer to an evil White oppressor who didn’t preach about the evils of slavery in Mansfield Park.

    Who knows what the next interpretation of Austen the idiot intellectuals will come up with.

    What the feminazis forget is that she made very little from her writing and that she, like most middle and upper class women of her era was entirely supported by her father and brothers her entire life.

    My favorite is Northanger Abbey.

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  240. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Liberals dug up a cemetery in Wisconsin. There was a prisoner of war camp near the town and the many, many dead were buried in the town cemetery. After the war the cemetery provided tombstones and that area of the cemetery was known as Confederate Corner.

    This was a cemetery in an obscure town but the liberals found it.

    It’s like when Mao was destroying Chinese art or Henry 8 and Thomas Cromwell destroyed art, burned books and searched private homes for religious icons And when the Taliban blew up those famous ancient Buddha statues.

  241. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    That’s true. Another custom is young adults paying a monthly sum to their parents. I knew a young Asian woman who wrote a$300 monthly check to her parents to repay them for raising her.

    She made about $40k a year and had student loans to pay. It’s very common So is the excess family members working in a business that doesn’t need and can’t afford the additional employees. Then there’s the endless relatives from China.

  242. Corn says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    As far as the vandals are concerned just another dead white man who was privileged.

  243. @Anon

    What they can’t accept is that Austen, like Chaucer, engaged in Estates Satire. She did not protest the existence of a patriarchy: she protested when the patriarchy did not live up to its responsibilities, including the one to make proper provision for women. We see this in Pride and Prejudice, where Mr. Bennett does not set up a trust for his family, supposing that he will have a son and the entailment won’t go into effect, or Sense and Sensibility, where the dying father, without naming a specific sum, entrusts maintenance to the half-brother, who is talked down from a reasonable amount to a mere pittance by his malicious wife. You’ll notice women get their share of the criticism (Aunt Norris in Mansfield Park is one of the most loathsome characters I have ever encountered in literature. She may not be as evil as Richard III, but she’s a good deal less likable).

    In addition, Austen does not protest the existence of a gentry class; she protests when they mistreat underlings. Darcy in P&P is praised by his housekeeper for his kindness; Wickham runs up bills which could ruin the tradesmen who have to absorb the cost.

    You can’t understand Austen, or really, anybody without knowing something about the culture of the time. I read P&P for the first time at 13 and picked up none of the dry humor in it, ditto the scathing satire in S&S.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  244. @Hail

    Kerry’s parents look quite attractive, at least in those photos. How did they manage to produce Franken-Face?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Anon
  245. @Anon

    This why people should read GWTW, not just see (or ban) the movie. At one point, Bonnie says her favorite people are “Daddy and the Demiquats,” and her least favorite people are “The Scallywags” [scallawags were “Southerners who had turned Republican very profitably”].

    The mind boggleth.

  246. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    Daughter Vanessa Kerry (b.1976)’s husband, Dr. Brian Vala Nahed (born ca. 1976), is from a rich, LA Persian family, perhaps ’79ers; Brian Nahed and Vanessa Kerry were married at an Episcopal church.

    Some info has it that Brian V. Nahed may have been born Behrooz V. Nahed, but in the U.S. in 1976. His parents, two then-recently-arrived Iranians:

    Dr. Reza Nahed (born late 1940s) and Nooshin Pourhassan Nahed (b.1949?).

    Dr. M[ohammed] Reza Nahed, MD is a critical care medicine specialist in Mission Hills, CA and has been practicing for 45 years. He graduated from Tehran University Of Medical Sciences, Faculty Of Medicine in 1974

    The name “Mohammed” must clinch it for Team (Nominal) Islam. I believe Mission Hills is also in your “Muslim, Catholic, or Other Christian zone” of Southern California Persian ethnography?

    • Replies: @Anon
  247. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    True, and the H. Revisionists are right in that part of the Jewish demographic shock of the 20th century was some degree of religio-cultural defection, at a time long before they could have predicted our era’s incredibly high prestige of Jewish identity. (Now, we have U.S. presidents’ daughters marrying-in and converting.)

  248. Art Deco says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Same way anyone else produces a child. Kerry’s face is more odd than ugly. His older sister’s face is peculiar the same way, but its more disfiguring on a woman. His younger sister is very ordinary looking. His brother’s face is about normal. Kerry’s always favored incompetent barbering. His father was badly groomed in old age as well.

    Michael Kinsley once said that you read newspaper profiles of Washington political figures and it seems to you that the figure expands – like a gas – to fill whatever office he occupies. That’s Kerry. The objective evidence tells you he’s a mediocre Boston lawyer with sufficient electioneering skills to land a seat in Congress. Democrats in the Massachusetts congressional delegation are seldom voted out of office, so after he won the seat, he was unlikely to lose it. Massachusetts voters aren’t picky; they accepted Robert Kennedy’s loutish n’er-do-well son, accepted pederast Gerry Studds, and accepted Scott Harshbarger, a man to arrogant to be ashamed of having secured the conviction of a mess of innocent people in the Fells Acres matter.

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  249. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Yes that’s the Christian Muslim area. Poor wretched refuse, Zoroastrians bought acres in Malibu for their Temple. Jews bought houses in Beverly Hills. Christians and Muslims had to make do with the more expensive parts of the valley

  250. @Art Deco

    His body language is probably the real issue. Watch his speech at the DNC the year he ran for president: his movements are ever-so-slightly out of sync with his words. Each gesture wilts away its the last 2.5 seconds instead of punctuating his remarks. He’d have had zero charisma on his own, but thanks to being introduced by then-unknown Barack Obama, his charisma went into negative numbers.

  251. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    His father is gorgeous. Proves my point that boys don’t look like their fathers.

    I’m disdainful of all that hidden secret Jews plotting away stuff . But the very handsome father is a stereotypical very handsome Jewish type.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  252. @Anon

    People staying in inns and small hotels as Lincoln did as a trader and out of town attorney slept in double beds with complete strangers

    They show a scene like that in the 2010 True Grit, where Mattie shares a hotel bed with a little old lady she’s never met. Servants routinely shared beds; the eponymous heroine of Pamela is shocked when the housekeeper at Mr. B’s country estate gets pervy about it.

  253. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    My first thoughts about P&P was how greedy the women were. Austen was very irate that the parents didn’t have decent dowries or an inheritance for them to live in proper style after the Reverend Collins inherited.

    Later reading about Jane’s life I realized she was projecting her anger at her own parents not providing dowries for her and Cassandra. P&P is my least favorite.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  254. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Remember the Jane Fairfax character in Emma. She was having to go to work as a governess and earn her own living. It was a horrible fate according to Austen But Jane Fairfax was saved from the horrible fate of working by marrying Frank Churchill

    And the feminazis claim Austen was a crusader for women’s right to work.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  255. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Teams of 3 blacks roam around White neighborhoods beating and robbing random Whites all the time. Why can’t Whites do the same? At least Liam planned to go one on one instead of the standard 3 blacks beating 1 White.

  256. @Anon

    It’s in S&S also. The sister-in-law not only makes sure they get little money, she also balks at having them visit her in town, sponsoring Lucy Steele instead, knowing perfectly well that without dowries, they need to meet possible husbands now, while they are young and pretty. She even says they can visit “some other year.” The brother even remarks that Marianne is beginning to lose her bloom as Eleanor has, ignoring the fact that had he given them dowries or at least made some introductions, they might both be married by now.

  257. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Have you ever looked at European military uniforms from about 1600 right up to WW1? They were colorful gaudy covered in gold braid , soutache and piping, all sorts of intricate cuffs collars gold or brass buttons and what in women’s clothes are called dressmaker details. That’s pretty little details scattered about. Or look at the dress uniforms of the American military today. The marine’s one is very faggy.

    Look at the Musketeers uniforms very femine looking today.

    Back in my hippy days I found a West Point dress up jacket in a second hand store. I wore it with dove gray pants. One of George 3 sons spent his life designing elaborate army uniforms

    Washington’s interest in elaborate uniforms was standard for his time.

  258. @Anon

    The governessing itself wasn’t the horrible part. It’s the way it would have exposed her to the simultaneously unctuous and patronizing treatment of the Mrs. Eltons of the world. Frank isn’t all that–he’s a slightly less sociopathic version of Willoughby and Wickham: the man whose easy charm covers nothing of substance.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  259. Art Deco says:
    @Anon

    His father is gorgeous. Proves my point that boys don’t look like their fathers.

    I’m a dead ringer for mine.

    Papa Kerry didn’t age well.

    • Replies: @Hail
  260. Hail says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    Papa Kerry didn’t age well.

    He lived to 85, I presume beating the average lifespan of his birth cohort (b.1915).

    What was his age at the time this pic was taken? —

    (Does this man look Jewish? Does not look particularly Jewish to me.)

  261. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Umm Years before Mrs Elton came along everyone felt sorry for poor Jane, she’ll have to go to work someday. With her excellent teacher training it was assumed Jane would get a job with a very refined family.

  262. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Frank was very rich reasonably good looking. That’s all that mattered to Jane Austen girls. Catherine in Northanger Abbey turns down John Thorpe because not only is he vulgar and obnoxious but doesn’t have much money. I’ve noticed that the wealthy men in Austen novels are always upright and virtuous.

    The not rich ones, Collins Willougby Wickman Thorpe Elton are always dishonest

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  263. @Anon

    Collins isn’t dishonest, just a toadyimg jackass. Edward Ferrars isn’t rich on his own, but tries to honor what he sees as his obligation towards Lucy despite his family’s disapproval and threatened disinheritance, even though he’d rather be with Elinor anyway. Willoughby could afford to marry Marianne if he’d live within his means on his small estate, but he’d have to give up the luxury of his aunt’s bequest as well as his well-connected fiancee’s portion. William Elliot looks likely to be wealthy if he can manipulate others; Capt. Wentworth looks unlikely to be wealthy, but works his way up. John Dashwood’s wife all too easily talks him into retaining most of his inheritance beyond the pittance he grants to his half-sisters, despite his father’s dying wishes.

    It is more what characters are willing to do for wealth, acquiring it or maintaining it, than whether they already possess it that distinguishes them in Austen’s world.

  264. TINA TRENT says: • Website

    Well, look. Unless I was hallucinating after fighting Georgia’s current Republican sponsored hate crime bill, I seem to remember you making some case for limited support for these laws.

    The problem is the limited part. This isn’t an ordinary crime fighting tool: it is a social justice tool rammed up the ass of crime fighting.

    And all that follows runs downstream from that.

  265. TINA TRENT says: • Website

    Also, fake nooses are far less common, viz my two decades of research, than desecration of garage doors.

    Whenever these is mention of a garage door being vandalized, I know it’s a hoax.

    Why? Easy. Big insurance payoff for a cheap repair. I have worked in construction.

    I only have a social sciences degree, but this is worth real math analysis.

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