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One recurrent element in Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s blood libel in Rolling Stone on the University of Virginia is her resentment of how much the blond and tanned students respect UVA’s founder Thomas Jefferson. Sabrina may have lost the battle to the tune of a $2 million libel judgment against her, but her war on Jefferson is going well. From the Richmond Times-Dispatch:

U.Va. faculty, students ask Sullivan not to quote Jefferson

TIMES-DISPATCH

Posted: Monday, November 14, 2016 11:32 am
From staff reports

University of Virginia President Teresa Sullivan is being asked to refrain from quoting Thomas Jefferson because of his racist beliefs, according to The Cavalier Daily.

A letter, signed by 469 faculty members and students, was sent to Sullivan on Nov. 11 protesting the use of a Jefferson quotation in her email calling for unity after the presidential election, the student newspaper reported.

“We would like for our administration to understand that although some members of this community may have come to this university because of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy, others of us came here in spite of it,” the letter read. “For many of us, the inclusion of Jefferson quotations in these e-mails undermines the message of unity, equality and civility that you are attempting to convey.”

In her message after the election, Sullivan said that “Thomas Jefferson wrote to a friend that University of Virginia students ‘are not of ordinary significance only: they are exactly the persons who are to succeed to the government of our country, and to rule its future enmities, its friendships and fortunes.’”

She encouraged “today’s U.Va. students to embrace that responsibility.” …

Lawrie Balfour, a politics professor who signed the letter, told the newspaper that those who signed the letter were grateful that Sullivan responded to anxiety following the election but felt it was the wrong moment to turn to Jefferson because of recent incidents of identity-related hate speech.

“I’ve been here 15 years,” Balfour said. “Again and again, I have found that at moments when the community needs reassurance and Jefferson appears, it undoes I think the really important work that administrators and others are trying to do.”

The slave-holding third president was U.Va’s founder.

And landscape architect.

Jefferson’s design for UVA with buildings around a grassy quad has remained immensely influential in campus design.

 
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  1. IHTG says:

    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    It's not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them.
    , @Louis Renault
    He should demand payment to professors at universities receiving federal funds can only be made in $2 bills.
    , @Jason Liu
    Academia is the center of the swamp. Somebody needs to tell him.
    , @22pp22
    Abe in Japan has declared war on the social sciences, arts and humanities. That is the way forward. Defund them and concentrate on more useful, demanding subjects.
    , @anonguy

    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.
     
    You guys need to take Steve's advice and start noticing things.

    If you had, you'd have noticed that this stuff is already on the run. It is going to take a while to purge the witch hunt hysteria, incidences of it have to happen for it to be purged, that is how trends end.

    Stop noticing this stuff. Start noticing where this sort of PC nonsense is getting shouted down by people on that side of the political spectrum, acknowledging the huge mistake all this mob action stuff is.

    It is all over the place now and the election is only a week past.

    Again, look back through my comments, I've prognosticated that SJW terrorism, and internet mob actions in general, will fall into disrepute after the Trump victory.

    It is happening in front of your eyes if you would only open them.
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  2. Olorin says:

    Jefferson’s design for UVA with buildings around a grassy quad has remained immensely influential in campus design.

    I always suspected quads were racist, since that’s where the Blonde Students go on sunny days to Appropriate Melanin.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Grassy quads, grassy knolls, a slippery slope indeed.
    Campus eateries will be required to decline any payment tendered using $2 bills, with tenderors (a neutral designation to preserve Latinx, Blackx, Dykex and such sensibilities) reported immediately to the appropriate authorities.
    , @dr kill
    I've seen that quad. It indeed reeks of white privilege. I'm thinking a nice, littered strip mall with a Popeye's, a same-day paycheck loan/pawn shop, a dollar store, an abortion mill, a methadone clinic, a drive-thru liquors, and a cute bodega where they sell saint candles with the goats, rabbits and chickens for ritual Santaria sacrifice would be a welcoming change. Make everyone feel at home. Screw the dead white guys who aimed to leave a better country for their fellows. Who did they think they were?
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  3. jtgw says:

    So they’re happy to attend a university founded and designed by a slave-holder, but it’s racist to mention his name?

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    • Replies: @boogerbently
    Have they been less or more useful since slavery ?
    , @Opinionator
    To be fair, it is a public institution. They could argue that they are already forced to pay for it.

    Does anyone have a sense of how well U.Va. would fare as a private institution?
    , @Connecticut Famer
    An example of the incoherence of the politically-correct stormtroopers.
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  4. JerryC says:

    It’s the Jacobin impulse to erase the past and start fresh with the Year Zero. We’ll need a new Revolutionary Calendar as well, since Julius Caesar and Augustus were Stale Pale Male slave owners and war criminals. Barackidor, anyone?

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    • Replies: @fish
    May UVA wither and die like the University of Missouri has begun to!
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  5. @IHTG
    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    It’s not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them.

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    • Agree: Barnard
    • Replies: @Njguy73
    “Election Day is one day a year, and the culture is the other 364 days a year, so if you’re not in there competing in the schools, competing in the pop culture, competing in the media, competing in the main-line churches, then the air we breathe becomes liberal.”

    “That’s the default setting in society. Whoever gets elected on a Tuesday morning in November doesn’t actually make much difference.” - Mark Steyn, 2014

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/20/mark-steyn-doesnt-matter-if-gop-win-midterms-liberals-winning-other-364-days-culture-wars-video/
    , @Wilkey
    "It’s not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them."

    Republican politicians surrendered on the culture wars a very long time ago. Republicans are in full control of the legislatures and governor's mansions in ~30 states. If they wanted to use their control of the purse strings to do something they certainly could.
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  6. Franklin Delano Roosevelt never should be quoted either. He locked up all the Japanese immigrants into concentration camps.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    And, worse, far, far worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!
    , @scrivener3
    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
    , @Foreign Expert
    Only Japanese in war zone one. Japanese in Colorado and Hawaii were not moved.
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  7. AndrewR says:

    Anyone who thinks this republic can be salvaged is insane at best.

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    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Anyone who thinks this republic can be salvaged is insane at best.
     
    Keep in mind that you have responded to this lunatic. What does that make you?

    This republic can be salvaged. After all Trump won.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No, but a European American nation can be.

    I'm not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people's interests.

    When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don't forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment.

    Give European Americans who want to preserve their people and culture some place to go, some place that will protect them. If a guy gets fired for standing up for European Americans, get him a job. (For example, Jason Richwine would have immediately found a job in a think tank in my world.) You also let those European Americans who don't want to preserve their people and culture know that they aren't welcome. No violence, just exclusion.

    A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won't be that important. We'll have our nation that insulates us.

    One needs only look at the demographics of the children being born today to understand that the United States is finished as a middle-class, civic-minded country. Trump or no Trump, European Americans - my children - need to do what races throughout history have done: Look out for their own and push for as much self-determination as possible under the circumstances.

    Time to build a new European American nation.
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  8. fish says:
    @JerryC
    It's the Jacobin impulse to erase the past and start fresh with the Year Zero. We'll need a new Revolutionary Calendar as well, since Julius Caesar and Augustus were Stale Pale Male slave owners and war criminals. Barackidor, anyone?

    May UVA wither and die like the University of Missouri has begun to!

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Unlikely. They're way too far up the food chain.
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  9. Jefferson’s design for UVA with buildings around a grassy quad has remained immensely influential in campus design.

    I suggest that they rip it all up and turn the whole place into a concrete jungle to teach that racist a lesson he will never forget!

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  10. @Mike Sylwester
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt never should be quoted either. He locked up all the Japanese immigrants into concentration camps.

    And, worse, far, far worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    I think you're overreacting, Steve.

    It's not as if some zealous person with a penchant for identity politics and the last name Balfour could sign his or her name on the piece of paper that would eventually turn the whole world upside down?
    , @Abe

    And, worse, far, far, worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!
     
    Actually worse: he was the Cultural Genocider-in-Chief! Reader franktremb laid what I consider one of the biggest historical bombshells I've ever read here in this except of a letter from FDR to the Prime Minister of Canada on the so-called French Canadian Problem:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/democratic-norway-v-authoritarian-sweden/#comment-702514

    All of this leads me to wonder whether, by some sort of planning, Canada and the United States, working toward the same end, cannot do some planning – perhaps unwritten planning which would not even be a public policy – by which we can hasten the objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic...

    In other words, after nearly two hundred years with you and after seventy-five years with us, there would seem to be no good reason for great differentials between the French population elements and the rest of the racial stocks.
     
    Worse, though, he wanted to pull something similar on the Jews:

    It is on the same basis that I am trying to work out post-war plans for the encouragement of the distribution of certain other nationalities in our large congested centers. There ought not to be such a concentration of Italians and of Jews, and even of Germans as we have today in New York City. I have started my National Resources Planning Commission to work on a survey of this kind.
     
    So basically Philip Roth's boyhood hero FDR was in real-life concocting what he fictionally impugned to the villain of THE PLOT AGAINST AMERICA (wonder if Roth's rath at the "nimrod" Trump becoming President- here's a guy who once thought the Supreme Allied Commander wasn't good enough for the White House- will suddenly snap him out of retirement).
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  11. Easy solution. Fire all the faculty that don’t want any part of Jefferson’s legacy and expel any students who feel the same. They can attend one of the many fine universities founded and funded by left wing black lesbians. There’s…um..let me think…wait..i got it…nope.

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    I hear Oberlin has a few spots for faculty.
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  12. Let me quote myself:

    The whole point of pushing the ideas that American heroes are unworthy of our respect and that American history is sinful is to demoralize those of us today who are viewed as beneficiaries of this rotten system and, also, to delegitimize the ways in which we gained our prosperity. It is preparation for the glorious day when the poor victims can finally stomp our faces into the mud and rob us blind.

    We should not give an inch.

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  13. @jtgw
    So they're happy to attend a university founded and designed by a slave-holder, but it's racist to mention his name?

    Have they been less or more useful since slavery ?

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  14. SPMoore8 says:

    I saw this article earlier today. Basically what happened is that the female president wrote an email massaging the little darlings attending UVA, and then a black female faculty member used the opportunity to gotcha the president. That’s basically all there is to this.

    Leftists are very adept at finding a way, in anything you say or do, to remind you that you are morally inferior to them. It’s their main game.

    Just rename UVA Martin Luther King, Junior College and all will be well.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    That would do it. UVA is the Harvard of DC and No VA as far as the locals are concerned.

    UMLK. Hahahahahahaha!

    , @Barnard
    Wait until someone brings up MLK's treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.
    , @guest
    Should we get out ahead of them and just name everything after MLK?

    "Where'd you go to school?"

    "MLK#134789-045"

    "Oh, I hear that campus is nice."

    "Wanna grab a bite to eat? MLK#320469-780 is right around the corner."

    "Nah, I gotta pick my dry cleaning up across town at MLK#907430-511."
    , @anonymous coward

    Martin Luther King, Junior College
     
    Who wants to go to a "Junior College"?
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  15. Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

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    • Replies: @Jtgw
    I think so. Poor Justin Raimondo.
    , @Glossy
    I hope that the mention of Bolton was like Trump's primary debate misstep on H1B visas. He has great instincts but knows few details. I hope that once someone explains to him what Bolton really stands for, he drops him.

    Giuliani was also mentioned. While not ideal, he's better than Bolton.
    , @Kyle
    No, you're just watching too much fox news.
    , @Jack Hanson
    No.

    Its the neocons trying to shape a Narrative that they are "in" this administration.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    It's a good question and one of lively debate with lots of opinions. Maybe Steve could open a thread on it
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  16. Meh! She merely needs to start quoting Stalin and Goebbels. I doubt anyone will complain about their universal “truths” since they seem to line up well with the current narrative.

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  17. SFG says:
    @fish
    May UVA wither and die like the University of Missouri has begun to!

    Unlikely. They’re way too far up the food chain.

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  18. As JFK famously said,”…the greatest collection of talent since Jefferson dined alone.” Jefferson is huge,he’s great. We gotta stand up for the man!

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  19. newrouter says:

    ot

    “This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger who coined the notion back in 2000. Steve Sailer’s essential idea, that the GOP needed to max out the white vote to keep winning national elections in the face of changing demographics, was rejected by most Republicans as smacking of racism.”

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

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    • Replies: @Clyde

    “This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger....."
     
    On Fox tonight I heard Monica Crowley use the word megaphone. Obviously in the way Steve does. Who else refers to the media megaphone?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Steve,
    Sorry you've been downgraded from a preeminent IQ journalist to a blogger. Life ain't fair.
    , @International Jew
    Excellent article. I never heard of this John R. Schindler guy before, but he's very very good.
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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Hey Steve, this Observer article quotes you extensively…and approvingly I’d say.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

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    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Kushner's father was convicted and jailed for the "usual" white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey's federal prosecutor. This didn't endear Kushner to Christie.

    While Kushner is bad, Christie is despicable. I'll never forgive Christie for man-hugging Obama at the tail-end of the 2012 Presidential campaign.

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner's influence through DJT's paternal affection for his daughter.
    , @SFG
    Eh, I think having Preibus around is a good thing. The guy needs someone who knows how things work and has connections to the old regime. Otherwise he is really going to be lost with all these political novices.
    , @Kyle
    I'm sure that's to keep the "clansmen" calm. Politico doesn't know who has the last word with, it might be one of his sons, it might be Lewandowski or Bannon. It might be nobody.
    , @anonguy

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.
     
    Preibus is a great unsung hero of this election, been saying that since Trump's meeting with him in DC so long ago...

    I wasn't at all surprised to see him at the victory speech and now as chief of staff.

    It is a great choice. Preibus is a man of integrity/principle.

    He is the only one that stood between the RNC/GOPe doing to Trump what the DNC did to Sanders.

    And tactically, Preibus, Wisconsin R, in tight with Ryan, back channel there to hard right which Trump is not willing to embrace too tightly.

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  21. It’s definitely easier to try and heal or even fight the past, than to deal with the present.

    Nietzsche used to make fun of scientists like Lawrie Balfour, but it may well be, that this is not enough.

    If I’d try it the other way round, it’d go like this: To seek purity in earthly matters is not only bad theology, it’s also bad philosophy – and in the end not human, for it tries to achieve the errorless – wich in itself is inhuman.

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    • Replies: @Langley
    " for it tries to achieve the errorless – wich in itself is inhuman."

    Cute.

    Middle eastern rug makers always wove in a mistake for just that reason.
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  22. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Mohammad had slaves too. So let’s never hear of anything he was involved with again.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Africa had slaves. Hell, it began there, and Africans have been the most prolific enslavers across history. I'm sick of hearing about how evil whitey is because ~1% of American whites owned slaves >150 years ago, yet we hear nothing of African slavery, Middle Eastern slavery, Asian slavery - all of which still go on. Nothing about white slaves and white indentured servants. Nothing about how black slavers captured and sold the African slaves into slavery in the first place. Nothing about whitey being the last to practice slavery and the first to abolish it (and actively try to abolish it elsewhere).

    It seems if we are going to damn whites over slavery, then logic would dictate we should more strongly damn people of every other race as well.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I liked having Muslims in El Cid.
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  23. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Olorin

    Jefferson’s design for UVA with buildings around a grassy quad has remained immensely influential in campus design.
     
    I always suspected quads were racist, since that's where the Blonde Students go on sunny days to Appropriate Melanin.

    Grassy quads, grassy knolls, a slippery slope indeed.
    Campus eateries will be required to decline any payment tendered using $2 bills, with tenderors (a neutral designation to preserve Latinx, Blackx, Dykex and such sensibilities) reported immediately to the appropriate authorities.

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  24. This just shows how insufferably pompous adolescents can be. I used to be one.

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  25. “We would like for our administration to understand that although some members of this community may have come to this university because of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy, others of us came here in spite of it…”

    Gee, uh…thanks?

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    Ghost, Wouldn't the more pointed response be for those faculty members and students who detest Jefferson's legacy be for them to leave their jobs or course of studies?
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  26. @SPMoore8
    I saw this article earlier today. Basically what happened is that the female president wrote an email massaging the little darlings attending UVA, and then a black female faculty member used the opportunity to gotcha the president. That's basically all there is to this.

    Leftists are very adept at finding a way, in anything you say or do, to remind you that you are morally inferior to them. It's their main game.

    Just rename UVA Martin Luther King, Junior College and all will be well.

    That would do it. UVA is the Harvard of DC and No VA as far as the locals are concerned.

    UMLK. Hahahahahahaha!

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  27. UVA students are going to have a pretty shallow bench of notable people to draw quotes from if being a “racist” under 2016 standards is disqualifying. That eliminates, I dunno, virtually everybody who’s ever lived?

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    • Replies: @guest
    It's not as if they have to apply it equitably. The whole point of PC is that you can turn on anyone at any time, arbitrarily, especially people from the Bad Old Days.
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  28. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Re: “insane to think we can save this republic”

    OK but we can fight for it. And the fight is going pretty well if you look at say the timeline of this blog (20 years approx).

    Trump/Bannon regime is a breakthrough. Positively yuge. But the worm was turning fast since about 2010 when Drudge and Limbaugh and Breitbart broke with the neocons.

    Go look at littlegreenfootballs.com. Eight years ago vs today …their ruling elite ideology is dying on the vine. Crazy Charles Johnson still has 500 comments per thread but it’s only 20 disturbed people with lead poisoning participating.

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    • Replies: @Langley
    Remember when Charles Johnson was the driving force behind PJ media?
    Times have changed (or have they?).
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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Meanwhile the idiotic war on all things American by leftists while claiming they should be trusted with ruling America continued today with Brown University spoiled whiners destroying American flags around campus meant to honor Veterans.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, That is deplorable or despicable, oh, wait, that describes us.
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  30. Jtgw says: • Website
    @Canadian Observer
    Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

    I think so. Poor Justin Raimondo.

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  31. Tulip says:

    So when can we demolish Mt. Rushmore, you have two former slave-owners, one avowed white supremacist, and even with Teddy, it would be an understatement to call him a white racialist.

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  32. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Plymouth Rock vs Ellis Island vs Selma vs East La.

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  33. @IHTG
    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    He should demand payment to professors at universities receiving federal funds can only be made in $2 bills.

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    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    "He should demand payment to professors at universities receiving federal funds can only be made in $2 bills." and nickels! Brilliant idea Renault. It could be like Kramer paying for Steinbrenner's calzones when the profs go to deposit their pay.
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  34. Glossy says: • Website
    @Canadian Observer
    Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

    I hope that the mention of Bolton was like Trump’s primary debate misstep on H1B visas. He has great instincts but knows few details. I hope that once someone explains to him what Bolton really stands for, he drops him.

    Giuliani was also mentioned. While not ideal, he’s better than Bolton.

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  35. Clyde says:

    A letter, signed by 469 faculty members and students, was sent to Sullivan on Nov. 11 protesting the use of a Jefferson quotation in her email …..

    These dopes are like Mao’s Red Guards. All trying to outdo each other in signalling displays and fanaticism. Who can be the most politically correct today? The war on the liberal left by the extreme left.

    Wikedpedia:
    Red Guards were a fanaticised student mass paramilitary social movement mobilized by Mao Zedong in 1966 and 1967, during the Cultural Revolution. According to a Red Guard leader, the movement’s aims were as follows: Chairman Mao has defined our future as an armed revolutionary youth organization…So if Chairman Mao is our Red-Commander-in-Chie…

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  36. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous
    Hey Steve, this Observer article quotes you extensively...and approvingly I'd say.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Ironic because this is Kushner's paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

    Kushner’s father was convicted and jailed for the “usual” white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey’s federal prosecutor. This didn’t endear Kushner to Christie.

    While Kushner is bad, Christie is despicable. I’ll never forgive Christie for man-hugging Obama at the tail-end of the 2012 Presidential campaign.

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter.

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    Virginia has a gubernatorial election next year. Clearly what we need to be doing is giving these kids lots and lots of money to promote their cause. The taxpayers of their state would be so proud, there's no reason they shouldn't get the chance to hear about it.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Kushner’s father was convicted and jailed for the “usual” white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey’s federal prosecutor. This didn’t endear Kushner to Christie. "

    Charles Kushner wasn't just convicted of the "usual" white collar crimes:

    Major Donor Admits Hiring Prostitute to Smear Witness

    "The biggest political donor in New Jersey pleaded guilty on Wednesday to trying to compromise a witness in a campaign finance investigation by setting him up with a prostitute and secretly videotaping the sexual encounter."

    Kushner (pere), formerly a major donor to the Democratic party, was also involved in the McGreevy affair, sponsoring a work visa for McGreevy's Israeli boy-toy. He sounds like a class-act all round.

    Interestingly, the Kushner Companies are the owners of 666 5th Avenue. Now it takes some guts to buy that property (or some connections, anyway).

    "While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter."

    It would be a shame if we narrowly avoided electing Lady MacBeth, only to have elected King Lear instead.

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  37. ’tis a pity Jefferson did not turn lend his genius to the design of golf courses.

    Who knows what he would have come up with?

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    That's just cruel. (I like it.)
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  38. melendwyr says: • Website

    Does using nickels count as a microaggression?

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  39. scrivener3 says: • Website
    @Mike Sylwester
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt never should be quoted either. He locked up all the Japanese immigrants into concentration camps.

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

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    Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill William Jefferson Clinton ...

    :-)
    , @ben tillman

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
     
    Some people consider Jefferson a leftist for his time, so I think your point needs further refinement.
    , @Mark Caplan
    Bill Clinton will no doubt explain his parents were honoring George Jefferson of the TV show The Jeffersons when they gave him his dubious-in-some-circles middle name, just as Hillary said she was named after intrepid mountaineer Sir Edmund Percival Hillary.
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  40. @Steve Sailer
    And, worse, far, far worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!

    I think you’re overreacting, Steve.

    It’s not as if some zealous person with a penchant for identity politics and the last name Balfour could sign his or her name on the piece of paper that would eventually turn the whole world upside down?

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  41. Langley says:
    @Dieter Kief
    It's definitely easier to try and heal or even fight the past, than to deal with the present.

    Nietzsche used to make fun of scientists like Lawrie Balfour, but it may well be, that this is not enough.

    If I'd try it the other way round, it'd go like this: To seek purity in earthly matters is not only bad theology, it's also bad philosophy - and in the end not human, for it tries to achieve the errorless - wich in itself is inhuman.

    ” for it tries to achieve the errorless – wich in itself is inhuman.”

    Cute.

    Middle eastern rug makers always wove in a mistake for just that reason.

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    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in.
    That's how the light gets in.
    That's how the light gets in.

    Leonard Cohen, Anthem

    Leonard Cohen had the - style! - to remark in an interview, that this is not his metaphor, but very old stuff. Your hint at the carpet-weavers therefor is a hint in the diretion of - - L. C.- - - (sigh)

    , @OutWest
    Or is it the Navajo rug weavers?
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  42. Njguy73 says:
    @reiner Tor
    It's not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them.

    “Election Day is one day a year, and the culture is the other 364 days a year, so if you’re not in there competing in the schools, competing in the pop culture, competing in the media, competing in the main-line churches, then the air we breathe becomes liberal.”

    “That’s the default setting in society. Whoever gets elected on a Tuesday morning in November doesn’t actually make much difference.” – Mark Steyn, 2014

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/20/mark-steyn-doesnt-matter-if-gop-win-midterms-liberals-winning-other-364-days-culture-wars-video/

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    He is really right.

    We, the little people, have to resist this as a group or we will be in the same mess forever.

    I don't have any strategies but am very open to ideas of how to counter this in public schools & universities. Every single admin and public school teacher must tow the SJW line.
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  43. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    http://www.infowars.com/film-director-paul-schrader-calls-for-violence-to-stop-donald-trump/

    Former Mishima-loving quasi-fascist Paul Schrader has gone full lefty Bickle.

    Bickle targeted Palantine.

    Schrader calls for Trump’s head apparently.

    Schrader’s radical warrior kills rightwing redneck singer.

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  44. “I’ve been here 15 years,” Balfour said.

    It so obvious that this entitled twat dreams of some better world where all of UVA’s’ faculty, staff, and students will chant the mantra of Balfour Declaration 2.0

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  45. Langley says:
    @Anonymous
    Re: "insane to think we can save this republic"

    OK but we can fight for it. And the fight is going pretty well if you look at say the timeline of this blog (20 years approx).

    Trump/Bannon regime is a breakthrough. Positively yuge. But the worm was turning fast since about 2010 when Drudge and Limbaugh and Breitbart broke with the neocons.

    Go look at littlegreenfootballs.com. Eight years ago vs today ...their ruling elite ideology is dying on the vine. Crazy Charles Johnson still has 500 comments per thread but it's only 20 disturbed people with lead poisoning participating.

    Remember when Charles Johnson was the driving force behind PJ media?
    Times have changed (or have they?).

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    He's swung from hard left to hard right and back a few times in his trajectory.
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  46. Because curing cancer is hard!

    Balfour’s articles on race and democratic theory have appeared in Political Theory, American Political Science Review, Hypatia, The Du Bois Review, The Review of Politics, and edited collections.

    She is now working on a book project on reparations for slavery and Jim Crow.

    Balfour has held fellowships from the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for Afro-American Research.

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    Ein feste Borg ist unser Left.
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  47. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some ’60s protest, and they had kids in the early ’70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the ’90s. Today’s college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what’s going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I’d diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They’re escalating their behaviors because they don’t feel ‘real’ or validated as people unless they’re getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn’t want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who’d want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They’re protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens’ bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

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    This assortative mating thing may be a bigger deal than people anticipate. Before feminism nerds couldn't go around chasing nerd women and producing kids with autism. It's probably true with activist types, as you suggest. Of course it's nurture as well as nature, as meeting their original demands means they have to push society further and further in the direction of the Nanny State to have something to protest.

    Similarly I kind of wonder if the shunting of high-IQ types away from small towns into college deprives much of rural America of leaders. Certainly these areas seem to be declining, and while deindustrialization plays a huge part, I wonder if it's the whole picture. Quite a few articles on West Virginia have talked of 'adverse selection'.

    It could be that we're separating things that are meant to be together, that forcing a fair number of Lena Dunham-Willie Robertson or Joni Ernst-Woody Allen matings through isolation keeps the extremes from getting too extreme.

    , @Coemgen
    "... concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability ..."

    In other words, characteristics that are often expressed as white girl problems.

    This is all status signalling:
    Low status people worry about where their next meal is coming from.
    Medium status people worry about whether or not their clothes match.
    High status people invent things to worry about.

    These pampered status seekers are trying to one-up each other by being more upset by even less reality. It should end well.

    , @27 year old
    >start with 2 people who met up at some ’60s protest, and they had kids in the early ’70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the ’90s. Today’s college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what’s going to happen.

    Don't forget the drugs. I bet a not insignificant number of those kids conceived from late 60s to early 70s were getting dosed with LSD in the womb.
    , @Jack D
    Given the ages at which the college educated in the US bear children (if any) I don't think many of the '60s radicals have college age grandchildren quite yet but do keep in mind that a lot of '60s leftists were red diaper babies so there is multi-generational leftism anyway.
    , @backup
    There is some good evidence, based on twin studies, that political opinion is heritable. Considering the stark differences in birth rates between the left and the right inevitably liberals will become a minority among whites.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038932/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/katherine-baldwin/feminine-mystique-is-this-all_b_2688263.html
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  48. Anon7 says:

    OT: Since everyone in the media is bitterly criticizing every move of Trump’s transition team like it’s the first time it ever happened, I thought I would do their job for them and offer this short article I found summarizing the presidential transitions from Richard Nixon’s in 1968 through Bill Clinton’s in 1992:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/articles/first-impressions-a-look-back-at-five-presidential-transitions/amp/

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  49. Jason Liu says:
    @IHTG
    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    Academia is the center of the swamp. Somebody needs to tell him.

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  50. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Mohammad had slaves too. So let's never hear of anything he was involved with again.

    Africa had slaves. Hell, it began there, and Africans have been the most prolific enslavers across history. I’m sick of hearing about how evil whitey is because ~1% of American whites owned slaves >150 years ago, yet we hear nothing of African slavery, Middle Eastern slavery, Asian slavery – all of which still go on. Nothing about white slaves and white indentured servants. Nothing about how black slavers captured and sold the African slaves into slavery in the first place. Nothing about whitey being the last to practice slavery and the first to abolish it (and actively try to abolish it elsewhere).

    It seems if we are going to damn whites over slavery, then logic would dictate we should more strongly damn people of every other race as well.

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  51. cthulhu says:

    Calls to mind one of my favorite quotes: “…I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” – Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800.

    That’s on the dome of the Jefferson Memorial, which is one of my favorite places to visit in DC. So peaceful to just hang out there and think.

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    Agreed. The most beautiful monument in DC. And a great quote by a great man.

    A few expulsions and firings at UVA would get their attention. Or maybe they can all transfer/get jobs at Hiawatha State in South Dakota.

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  52. @AndrewR
    Anyone who thinks this republic can be salvaged is insane at best.

    Anyone who thinks this republic can be salvaged is insane at best.

    Keep in mind that you have responded to this lunatic. What does that make you?

    This republic can be salvaged. After all Trump won.

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  53. Whiskey says: • Website

    Lets think this through. What is the logical end game? UVA will become a Whitey Free Zone, and will be Latinx or Xer or Black-Black-Black or whatever. But Whitey Free. With no Whites allowed and particularly Thomas Jefferson.

    Now, White chicks will find that attractive; they are the mainstay of Rap Music, Rappers, etc. Just check out any gossip mag for twenty seconds while in line at the grocery store. But White dudes, who go on to actually do things, and make money, will avoid that Blackety-Black-Black, Xer, Latinx stuff like the plague. They will go elsewhere, online, to a few elite schools not stupid enough to commit seppuku for the sake of non-White students who will never give money or make decisions steering money to the school.

    Its like the tech stocks all cratering. Amazon faces the wrath of Trump for Bezos shilling for Hillary! with lots of anti-trust action. Same with Fakebook, Twatter, etc. Trump owes them nothing but payback and the man is quite good at that task.

    The Democratic Party is the same. All Black, all the time. No White candidate can win anymore, it has to be a non-White and very rapidly the old White dudes and er, um, er, … whatever will end up dumped out like Hillary! and replaced by someone like Keith Ellison X or whatever.

    Sooner or later the Moneyball approach to College Admissions will create big winners who refuse to bow down to various non-White agitators because it kills the revenue stream and achievers admitted; and lots of big losers who in fact do such stupid things.

    The same thing will happen to the Democratic Party. As the All Blacks, American Edition, they’re unlikely to generate more than 20% of the White vote.

    The idea to kick Whitey Out and ride the Brown Horde to rule is over; Non Whites want their own leaders not some aging White harpy. So there’s no route for ambitious young White men and even women in the Democratic Party. Or likely, UVA.

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  54. OT

    Sweden’s ‘Gender-Equal’ Snow Clearing Approach Ends In Chaos

    Stockholm’s center-left government introduced a new “gender equal” approach to clearing the roads of snow last year. The policy states that sidewalks, public transport and bicycle lanes should be cleared before turning attention to the roads. The reason is that women are more likely to use sidewalks while men are overrepresented among commuters driving to work.

    When the first major snow storm swept the capital last week, traffic went into a standstill as no one cleared the streets.

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  55. So what’s going to happen to the $2 bill and the nickel?

    Before I turned 30, I put Dumas Malone’s 6 volume masterpiece, Jefferson and His Time , on my bucket list. About 20 years later it’s still on the bucket list. But right now I am really thinking about reading it :)

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    I'm surprised Steve didn't bring up Hamilton! First Jackson, maybe Ol' Jeff will be the next to fall to history's greatest Honorary Non-white.

    I assume Jefferson is in the play. It'd be weird if he wasn't. Did they make him Negro Jefferson, or something? Nevermind, that one won't take. You can only de-white one founding father at a time.
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  56. Wilkey says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Kushner's father was convicted and jailed for the "usual" white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey's federal prosecutor. This didn't endear Kushner to Christie.

    While Kushner is bad, Christie is despicable. I'll never forgive Christie for man-hugging Obama at the tail-end of the 2012 Presidential campaign.

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner's influence through DJT's paternal affection for his daughter.

    Virginia has a gubernatorial election next year. Clearly what we need to be doing is giving these kids lots and lots of money to promote their cause. The taxpayers of their state would be so proud, there’s no reason they shouldn’t get the chance to hear about it.

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  57. Barnard says:
    @SPMoore8
    I saw this article earlier today. Basically what happened is that the female president wrote an email massaging the little darlings attending UVA, and then a black female faculty member used the opportunity to gotcha the president. That's basically all there is to this.

    Leftists are very adept at finding a way, in anything you say or do, to remind you that you are morally inferior to them. It's their main game.

    Just rename UVA Martin Luther King, Junior College and all will be well.

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.

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    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.
     
    You can't bring that up... because the government sealed King's FBI records for fifty years.

    When you're manufacturing a secular saint, you've got to purge all the contradictory evidence from the official narrative.
    , @guest
    Race trumps sex. If ever they should turn on him, they'll go there. Plus the plagiarism.
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  58. Wilkey says:
    @reiner Tor
    It's not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them.

    “It’s not enough to gain (some) political power, culture and education need to be turned right, with leftism (which is, currently, like, 100% of them) totally purged out of them.”

    Republican politicians surrendered on the culture wars a very long time ago. Republicans are in full control of the legislatures and governor’s mansions in ~30 states. If they wanted to use their control of the purse strings to do something they certainly could.

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  59. biz says:
    @Langley
    Remember when Charles Johnson was the driving force behind PJ media?
    Times have changed (or have they?).

    He’s swung from hard left to hard right and back a few times in his trajectory.

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  60. Twinkie says:

    her resentment of how much the blond and tanned students respect UVA’s founder Thomas Jefferson.

    UVA is actually not all that “blond and tanned.” Unlike, say, the University of Iowa or that legendary party school of the Midwest, KU.

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    I was just there for family weekend and my impression is that there are surprisingly few NAMs--and not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).
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  61. SFG says:
    @Anonymous
    Hey Steve, this Observer article quotes you extensively...and approvingly I'd say.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Ironic because this is Kushner's paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

    Eh, I think having Preibus around is a good thing. The guy needs someone who knows how things work and has connections to the old regime. Otherwise he is really going to be lost with all these political novices.

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  62. Clyde says:
    @newrouter
    ot

    "This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger who coined the notion back in 2000. Steve Sailer’s essential idea, that the GOP needed to max out the white vote to keep winning national elections in the face of changing demographics, was rejected by most Republicans as smacking of racism."

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    “This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger…..”

    On Fox tonight I heard Monica Crowley use the word megaphone. Obviously in the way Steve does. Who else refers to the media megaphone?

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    My Sunday mornings used to include watching the McLaughlin Group with coffee after Sunday brunch. The camera that caught Buchanan with Crowley in the background allowed you to listen to him and watch her at the same time. Those were the days...

    My memory is that Crowley was a GOPe neocon Iraq Attaq supporter, so I wonder if she's actually an iSteve reader.
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  63. SFG says:
    @Anon
    Part of the problem is that today's leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some '60s protest, and they had kids in the early '70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the '90s. Today's college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what's going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I'd diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They're escalating their behaviors because they don't feel 'real' or validated as people unless they're getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn't want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who'd want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They're protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens' bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

    This assortative mating thing may be a bigger deal than people anticipate. Before feminism nerds couldn’t go around chasing nerd women and producing kids with autism. It’s probably true with activist types, as you suggest. Of course it’s nurture as well as nature, as meeting their original demands means they have to push society further and further in the direction of the Nanny State to have something to protest.

    Similarly I kind of wonder if the shunting of high-IQ types away from small towns into college deprives much of rural America of leaders. Certainly these areas seem to be declining, and while deindustrialization plays a huge part, I wonder if it’s the whole picture. Quite a few articles on West Virginia have talked of ‘adverse selection’.

    It could be that we’re separating things that are meant to be together, that forcing a fair number of Lena Dunham-Willie Robertson or Joni Ernst-Woody Allen matings through isolation keeps the extremes from getting too extreme.

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    "Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals."

    It's like radical version of Pokemon Go or Pokemon Prog.

    It used to be kids hunted for eggs on Easter.

    But now they hunt for 'racists', and since there aren't any, you gotta play games like KKK at Oberlin or Nazi rape gang at UVA or whatever.

    This is why Pepe as meme is so funny. It's a riff on the cartoonishness of the so-called Left.
    And these progs fell for the frog.

    Alt Right put some fashy symbols on the frog, and LOL ROTFL college professors began to give lectures on the EVIL meaning of Pepe. They got trolled.

    Hate Hoaxes are like a game. Someone makes a fake hoax, and a game starts to hunt down the 'racist', 'nazi', or 'homophobe'. And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it. It's their version of fox hunting.

    Hate Hoax is like Snoopy as the Mad Punter.

    https://collectpeanuts.com/comicstrips/livesofsnoopy/241345.full.gif

    And I think the homo and tranny stuff made it all the sillier.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    Also, there is increasing friction with the Movement because all these groups have such different racial, economic, and cultural backgrounds and goals. But they are all supposed to worship Diversity. So, even though they can't stand each other, they must pretend to do so... and find some way to twist all their frustrations and dump blame on whitey.

    I think that black girl who went nuts at Yale over halloween costumes is really pissed that all these immigrants and homos are pushing blacks to the back of the bus. But since Diversity is sacrosanct, she can't bitch about that. So, her fury blows up at white male over something totally inane.
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  65. Abe says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    And, worse, far, far worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!

    And, worse, far, far, worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!

    Actually worse: he was the Cultural Genocider-in-Chief! Reader franktremb laid what I consider one of the biggest historical bombshells I’ve ever read here in this except of a letter from FDR to the Prime Minister of Canada on the so-called French Canadian Problem:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/democratic-norway-v-authoritarian-sweden/#comment-702514

    All of this leads me to wonder whether, by some sort of planning, Canada and the United States, working toward the same end, cannot do some planning – perhaps unwritten planning which would not even be a public policy – by which we can hasten the objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic…

    In other words, after nearly two hundred years with you and after seventy-five years with us, there would seem to be no good reason for great differentials between the French population elements and the rest of the racial stocks.

    Worse, though, he wanted to pull something similar on the Jews:

    It is on the same basis that I am trying to work out post-war plans for the encouragement of the distribution of certain other nationalities in our large congested centers. There ought not to be such a concentration of Italians and of Jews, and even of Germans as we have today in New York City. I have started my National Resources Planning Commission to work on a survey of this kind.

    So basically Philip Roth’s boyhood hero FDR was in real-life concocting what he fictionally impugned to the villain of THE PLOT AGAINST AMERICA (wonder if Roth’s rath at the “nimrod” Trump becoming President- here’s a guy who once thought the Supreme Allied Commander wasn’t good enough for the White House- will suddenly snap him out of retirement).

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    Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations. There was no multicultural nonsense then. Cf Saul Bellow's comment about immigrating to the USA:

    "The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of 'cultures.'"
     
    , @Jack D

    objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic…
     
    One of these objectives succeeded (French Canadian culture in New England doesn't really exist anymore - people with French-Canadian last names have dissolved into garden variety white people and the only remaining clue is a French last name) and one failed spectacularly to the point where even the STOP signs in Quebec (unlike those in France) are in French. What was different? We'd better figure this out quick before our stop signs read ¡DETENER!
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  66. @Louis Renault
    He should demand payment to professors at universities receiving federal funds can only be made in $2 bills.

    “He should demand payment to professors at universities receiving federal funds can only be made in $2 bills.” and nickels! Brilliant idea Renault. It could be like Kramer paying for Steinbrenner’s calzones when the profs go to deposit their pay.

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  67. Dr. X says:
    @Barnard
    Wait until someone brings up MLK's treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.

    You can’t bring that up… because the government sealed King’s FBI records for fifty years.

    When you’re manufacturing a secular saint, you’ve got to purge all the contradictory evidence from the official narrative.

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    Presumably 2018 is just around the corner...
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  68. guest says:
    @SPMoore8
    I saw this article earlier today. Basically what happened is that the female president wrote an email massaging the little darlings attending UVA, and then a black female faculty member used the opportunity to gotcha the president. That's basically all there is to this.

    Leftists are very adept at finding a way, in anything you say or do, to remind you that you are morally inferior to them. It's their main game.

    Just rename UVA Martin Luther King, Junior College and all will be well.

    Should we get out ahead of them and just name everything after MLK?

    “Where’d you go to school?”

    “MLK#134789-045″

    “Oh, I hear that campus is nice.”

    “Wanna grab a bite to eat? MLK#320469-780 is right around the corner.”

    “Nah, I gotta pick my dry cleaning up across town at MLK#907430-511.”

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    Should we get out ahead of them and just name everything after MLK?
     
    No, just a third. One third Harriet Tubman and the other third Sojourner Truth.
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  69. guest says:
    @Barnard
    Wait until someone brings up MLK's treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.

    Race trumps sex. If ever they should turn on him, they’ll go there. Plus the plagiarism.

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  70. syonredux says:
    @Abe

    And, worse, far, far, worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!
     
    Actually worse: he was the Cultural Genocider-in-Chief! Reader franktremb laid what I consider one of the biggest historical bombshells I've ever read here in this except of a letter from FDR to the Prime Minister of Canada on the so-called French Canadian Problem:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/democratic-norway-v-authoritarian-sweden/#comment-702514

    All of this leads me to wonder whether, by some sort of planning, Canada and the United States, working toward the same end, cannot do some planning – perhaps unwritten planning which would not even be a public policy – by which we can hasten the objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic...

    In other words, after nearly two hundred years with you and after seventy-five years with us, there would seem to be no good reason for great differentials between the French population elements and the rest of the racial stocks.
     
    Worse, though, he wanted to pull something similar on the Jews:

    It is on the same basis that I am trying to work out post-war plans for the encouragement of the distribution of certain other nationalities in our large congested centers. There ought not to be such a concentration of Italians and of Jews, and even of Germans as we have today in New York City. I have started my National Resources Planning Commission to work on a survey of this kind.
     
    So basically Philip Roth's boyhood hero FDR was in real-life concocting what he fictionally impugned to the villain of THE PLOT AGAINST AMERICA (wonder if Roth's rath at the "nimrod" Trump becoming President- here's a guy who once thought the Supreme Allied Commander wasn't good enough for the White House- will suddenly snap him out of retirement).

    Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations. There was no multicultural nonsense then. Cf Saul Bellow’s comment about immigrating to the USA:

    “The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of ‘cultures.’”

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    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn't know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he's talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete's sake.
    , @Kyle
    Isn't FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?
    , @Anon
    "Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations."

    I don't think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.

    The real odd group out was the Jews. They just had more drive, talent, ambition, and will. And craftiness, hostility, and contempt.

    And I'm not sure this would have gone away with attempt at assimilation. Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained. And the bitterness as well, even though some did assimilate successfully.
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  71. guest says:
    @ATX Hipster
    UVA students are going to have a pretty shallow bench of notable people to draw quotes from if being a "racist" under 2016 standards is disqualifying. That eliminates, I dunno, virtually everybody who's ever lived?

    It’s not as if they have to apply it equitably. The whole point of PC is that you can turn on anyone at any time, arbitrarily, especially people from the Bad Old Days.

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  72. @Mike Sylwester
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt never should be quoted either. He locked up all the Japanese immigrants into concentration camps.

    Only Japanese in war zone one. Japanese in Colorado and Hawaii were not moved.

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  73. Kyle says:

    The rotunda is beautiful, and the honors dorms are really neat, I’m not sure if anyone actually lives in those dorms anymore, but they are giver to senior honor students I think. They all have their own fireplace and chimney, and they get fire wood delivered to them, very neat.

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    July 14, 2011 — One of the University of Virginia's earliest students has remained one of its most famous. Efforts are being made to keep his memory alive.

    Renovations on the West Range rooms this summer include some sprucing up of No. 13, purported to have been slept in by Edgar Allan Poe.

    The Raven Society maintains No. 13 as a shrine to Poe, a student at U.Va. from February to December 1826. A glass door allows visitors to see it furnished as a student room would have been in the early 19th century, and they can press a button to hear a recording about Poe's time at U.Va. The furniture, which was provided by the Raven Society, is authentic to the period, but does not have any direct connection to Poe.
     
    https://news.virginia.edu/content/university-virginia-spirit-poe-resides-evermore
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  74. guest says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    So what's going to happen to the $2 bill and the nickel?

    Before I turned 30, I put Dumas Malone's 6 volume masterpiece, Jefferson and His Time , on my bucket list. About 20 years later it's still on the bucket list. But right now I am really thinking about reading it :)

    I’m surprised Steve didn’t bring up Hamilton! First Jackson, maybe Ol’ Jeff will be the next to fall to history’s greatest Honorary Non-white.

    I assume Jefferson is in the play. It’d be weird if he wasn’t. Did they make him Negro Jefferson, or something? Nevermind, that one won’t take. You can only de-white one founding father at a time.

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    I assume Jefferson is in the play. It’d be weird if he wasn’t.
     
    He is. Some of the biggest moments in the musical involve Hamilton and Jefferson arguing.

    Did they make him Negro Jefferson, or something?
     
    Yeah. From what I've heard, everyone except George III is played by a non-White.
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  75. Kyle says:
    @Canadian Observer
    Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

    No, you’re just watching too much fox news.

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  76. @jtgw
    So they're happy to attend a university founded and designed by a slave-holder, but it's racist to mention his name?

    To be fair, it is a public institution. They could argue that they are already forced to pay for it.

    Does anyone have a sense of how well U.Va. would fare as a private institution?

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    Actually, most of them probably aren't paying for it, not with their own money anyway, but with the bank's money. And a lot of Virginians who don't even go to college but pay taxes to support it none-the-less think that Thomas Jefferson is just fine with them.
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Sorry I'm late to this party, but public support at the University of Virginia lately ranges from 6% to 10% of the institution's budget, depending on the year. So it's almost private already, though Richmond will never let it go. In the legal sense, that is.

    http://www.virginia.edu/facts
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/how-much-state-funding-does-the-university-of-virginia-receive/2013/09/12/fb999782-1baf-11e3-82ef-a059e54c49d0_story.html
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  77. guest says:
    @syonredux
    Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations. There was no multicultural nonsense then. Cf Saul Bellow's comment about immigrating to the USA:

    "The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of 'cultures.'"
     

    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn’t know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he’s talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake.

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    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn’t know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he’s talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake.
     
    His books clearly reveal his immigrant background, sure. But no one could mistake them for the work of a foreigner.

    He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake
     
    So did Tolstoy.
    , @Formerly CARealist
    You read more than one of his books? Eek. I read Mr. Sammler's Planet and it was totally disgusting and dispiriting.

    If he's critiquing "cultures" then I assume he's discouraged about downtown blacks or spoiled rich kids.
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  78. Kyle says:
    @Anonymous
    Hey Steve, this Observer article quotes you extensively...and approvingly I'd say.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Ironic because this is Kushner's paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

    I’m sure that’s to keep the “clansmen” calm. Politico doesn’t know who has the last word with, it might be one of his sons, it might be Lewandowski or Bannon. It might be nobody.

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  79. Kyle says:
    @syonredux
    Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations. There was no multicultural nonsense then. Cf Saul Bellow's comment about immigrating to the USA:

    "The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of 'cultures.'"
     

    Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

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    "Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?"

    "WASP" has broaden to include any Northern European who is not Irish Catholic. An Irish Protestant can be a "WASP".
    , @syonredux

    Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?
     
    Had this conversation a while back. Despite the Dutch surname, the majority of FDR's ancestry was Anglo-Saxon. Add to that schooling at such WASPy places as Groton and Harvard.
    , @Okie
    As on of the responders noted, the majority of his ancestors were Anglo, but he I'd himself as Dutch and famously said that the country belongs to the Anglos and the Dutch and everyone else is here on sufferance.
    , @Old Palo Altan
    Yes it is, at least if you are talking about the Roosevelts and the other old Dutch families of New York and New Jersey. "Anglo-Saxon" is the least accurate part of "WASP". White is obvious, and Protestant is too. But "Anglo-Saxon" was just an essential way of coming up with a clever acronym - I am sure that E Digby Baltzell would have laughed at the idea that he had meant the term to exclude the Roosevelts, or the Zantzingers, or even the Madeiras, a long converted once Jewish family of the Philadelphia Main Line
    Whom it didn't mean was defined by successive waves of immigration: first, no Irish; then, no Italians; finally, no Jews.
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  80. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @SFG
    This assortative mating thing may be a bigger deal than people anticipate. Before feminism nerds couldn't go around chasing nerd women and producing kids with autism. It's probably true with activist types, as you suggest. Of course it's nurture as well as nature, as meeting their original demands means they have to push society further and further in the direction of the Nanny State to have something to protest.

    Similarly I kind of wonder if the shunting of high-IQ types away from small towns into college deprives much of rural America of leaders. Certainly these areas seem to be declining, and while deindustrialization plays a huge part, I wonder if it's the whole picture. Quite a few articles on West Virginia have talked of 'adverse selection'.

    It could be that we're separating things that are meant to be together, that forcing a fair number of Lena Dunham-Willie Robertson or Joni Ernst-Woody Allen matings through isolation keeps the extremes from getting too extreme.

    “Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals.”

    It’s like radical version of Pokemon Go or Pokemon Prog.

    It used to be kids hunted for eggs on Easter.

    But now they hunt for ‘racists’, and since there aren’t any, you gotta play games like KKK at Oberlin or Nazi rape gang at UVA or whatever.

    This is why Pepe as meme is so funny. It’s a riff on the cartoonishness of the so-called Left.
    And these progs fell for the frog.

    Alt Right put some fashy symbols on the frog, and LOL ROTFL college professors began to give lectures on the EVIL meaning of Pepe. They got trolled.

    Hate Hoaxes are like a game. Someone makes a fake hoax, and a game starts to hunt down the ‘racist’, ‘nazi’, or ‘homophobe’. And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it. It’s their version of fox hunting.

    Hate Hoax is like Snoopy as the Mad Punter.

    And I think the homo and tranny stuff made it all the sillier.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    Also, there is increasing friction with the Movement because all these groups have such different racial, economic, and cultural backgrounds and goals. But they are all supposed to worship Diversity. So, even though they can’t stand each other, they must pretend to do so… and find some way to twist all their frustrations and dump blame on whitey.

    I think that black girl who went nuts at Yale over halloween costumes is really pissed that all these immigrants and homos are pushing blacks to the back of the bus. But since Diversity is sacrosanct, she can’t bitch about that. So, her fury blows up at white male over something totally inane.

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    If leftists had held Obama'a feet to the fire about war mongering I would have greatly respected them.

    As it is we regularly bomb 7 countries but no one on the left can criticize a black man ever no matter how poorly one behaves.

    , @Ozymandias
    "And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it."

    The majority of headlines aimed at this group can be paraphrased as "This Will Make You Outraged!" And who doesn't enjoy that feeling of self-righteousness you get while condemning others?
    , @Kyle McKenna

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.
     
    A great point, among many that you make.

    We really should put Jerelyn Luther on the $20.
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  81. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations. There was no multicultural nonsense then. Cf Saul Bellow's comment about immigrating to the USA:

    "The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of 'cultures.'"
     

    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.

    The real odd group out was the Jews. They just had more drive, talent, ambition, and will. And craftiness, hostility, and contempt.

    And I’m not sure this would have gone away with attempt at assimilation. Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained. And the bitterness as well, even though some did assimilate successfully.

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    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. I
     
    Scots-Irish are Anglo.

    German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.
     
    Rather more than that. The pre-60's WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.
    , @Forbes

    Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained.
     
    USSR pushed communist indoctrination. If that's assimilation, then it's no wonder ethnic divides remained. Anything to resist brainwashing...
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  82. @SPMoore8
    I saw this article earlier today. Basically what happened is that the female president wrote an email massaging the little darlings attending UVA, and then a black female faculty member used the opportunity to gotcha the president. That's basically all there is to this.

    Leftists are very adept at finding a way, in anything you say or do, to remind you that you are morally inferior to them. It's their main game.

    Just rename UVA Martin Luther King, Junior College and all will be well.

    Martin Luther King, Junior College

    Who wants to go to a “Junior College”?

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    An awful lot of people want to go to Leland Stanford Junior University.
    , @ben tillman

    Who wants to go to a “Junior College”?
     
    Everyone at Stanford, for starters.
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  83. Jefferson says:

    Donald Trump won 57 percent of the vote in Staten Island.

    http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/to_understand_pro-trump_voters.html

    God bless my people the Italians.

    On the flip side Crooked Hildabeast won Orange County, which was once a bastion of conservatism but no longer.

    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.

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    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.
     
    This made me lol. It really shows how you can internalize a shitty situation as being part of the ordinary landscape. Just like most of you have accepted that 1965 is a done deal and that you can't even go back to pre-2000 demographics. I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)
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  84. Jefferson says:
    @Kyle
    Isn't FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

    “Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?”

    “WASP” has broaden to include any Northern European who is not Irish Catholic. An Irish Protestant can be a “WASP”.

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    My father was 100% German and he said that he was a "WASP" due to the Angles and Saxons originally coming from Angeln and Saxony in Germany.

    Andrew Mellon, Andrew Jackson, and Woodrow Wilson were of Scotch-Irish Protestant descent. I'd consider them WASPs.
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  85. Grumpy says:
    @anonymous coward

    Martin Luther King, Junior College
     
    Who wants to go to a "Junior College"?

    An awful lot of people want to go to Leland Stanford Junior University.

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  86. Totally off topic. jews are now a race?

    https://www.igenea.com/en/jews

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    Totally off topic. jews are now a race?
     
    If you like. Race, as a concept, can be scales up or scaled down. Hence, one can speak with equal validity of both Continental-scale races (Caucasoid, Australoid, etc) and of local races like Northern Europeans, Southern Europeans, etc.
    , @Forbes
    Race is a family tree, extended, and to some extent inbred--married to and reproducing among itself. Churchill regularly referred to England as an island race. Other nations' leaders similarly referred to their fellow countrymen as of a race.
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  87. Bill B. says:

    OT:

    Just forced myself to read WaPo which criticises – ludicrously – Obama for smiling too much.

    I have no idea how Obama feels about the election but isn’t it entirely possible he is happy Hillary lost?

    Aside from the bad blood between them her destruction also brings down Bill’s reputation leaving Obama’s legacy as relatively benign in liberal eyes.

    I notice in WaPo’s snaps of ‘grieving’ White House staffers that hard core Obama (PoC) insiders like Rice and Jarrett do not look devastated at all.

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    I thought the same thing, too. I feel like O is relieved she lost ( I mean, the progs chose him over her 8 years ago!) because Bill & she just went nuts collecting so much cash from unsavory monarchies and autocracies all over the Middle East; and getting the nefarious speech fees from Wall Street - it was creepy and tacky. So stunning how Hillary supporters were fine with that, and our 15-year-old wars & the national debt, btw. And, these dumb-ass, privileged (they need to check their multicultural privilege :)!, protesters burning flags and sh*t while US soldiers die overseas fighting for their pathetic freedom to ransack cities. The soldiers, of course, being the children of the Deplorables! No, when Bill trashed Obamacare just weeks before the election, I saw that as a sign that Hillary would try get awesome glory by recreating Hillarycare...I think that Obama was more worried about Hillary trashing his legacy, rather than Donald. The Clintons lost and I am very relieved. I can't believe how much I've enjoyed all the cringe-worthy soul-searching by pundits and their ilk this past week. It's a little harder to stomach the breathtaking hubris, hypocrisy, the ridiculous "call to arms" of my suburban, mostly female friends, calling everybody and their mother, racist. I'm exhausted, yawn. It's time to avoid, avoid, avoid and clean my house of superfluous things.
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  88. Olorin says:
    @bored identity
    Because curing cancer is hard!



    Balfour's articles on race and democratic theory have appeared in Political Theory, American Political Science Review, Hypatia, The Du Bois Review, The Review of Politics, and edited collections.

    She is now working on a book project on reparations for slavery and Jim Crow.

    Balfour has held fellowships from the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for Afro-American Research.

     

    Ein feste Borg ist unser Left.

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  89. syonredux says:
    @Kyle
    Isn't FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

    Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

    Had this conversation a while back. Despite the Dutch surname, the majority of FDR’s ancestry was Anglo-Saxon. Add to that schooling at such WASPy places as Groton and Harvard.

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  90. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    "Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations."

    I don't think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.

    The real odd group out was the Jews. They just had more drive, talent, ambition, and will. And craftiness, hostility, and contempt.

    And I'm not sure this would have gone away with attempt at assimilation. Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained. And the bitterness as well, even though some did assimilate successfully.

    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. I

    Scots-Irish are Anglo.

    German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.

    Rather more than that. The pre-60′s WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.

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    "Scots-Irish are Anglo."

    When we say Wasp, we really mean East Coast Brahmin types, not the moon-shine swilling fellers who hunt possum and name their kids bubba and lyle.
    How many Boston Brahmin families named their kid 'bubba' or spoke a funny kind of dialect?

    Scotch-Irish types were neanderthal version of the Anglo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgOACJpZg0

    "German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony."

    I think Germans would have assimilated even if there was no WWI factor. And in fact, most had.

    Besides, in demeanor and habits, Germans were more waspy than the Scotch-Irish were.

    It's the Scotch-Irish that were acting like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3C6n3nGXP8

    The main German threat was not ethnic but ideological as good number of them were socialists.

    Perhaps it was the crushing of the Left that had the real long-term effect on controlling German political power.

    "Rather more than that. The pre-60′s WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs."

    In a way, that was the problem. As there was a white-bread element in Wasp culture, it pressured non-Anglos to lose their sense of roots and become 'bland'. Blandness, like a vacuum, calls out to be filled.

    So, as white ethnics became more Anglo-ized, they were more vulnerable to fads and fashions since they lost their roots. So, Anglo-ization hastened Liberalism.

    Look at Ortho Jews who cling to culture. More likely to be conservative.
    But waspized Jews became more Liberal.

    In a way, the pressure to Anglo-ize is still present. It's just that wasp power, in fusion with Jewish power, is less about Anglo-ness than about PC-ness, MLK-ness, and homo-ness that are the new religion of America.

    America today applies just as much assimilationist pressures as in the past. It's just that today's Anglos are more eager for newcomers to worship Harvey Milk than George Washington.
    These PC Anglos do NOT want newcomers to cling to their original culture as such conservatism goes against PC.

    PC multi-cultism has NO TOLERANCE for newcomers who say "I reject 'gay marriage' as an affront to my cultural values."

    Multi-cultism only tolerates and celebrates superficial stuff like food and costumes. It has no interest in the actual moral and intellectual underpinnings of other cultures.

    Anglo has gone homo and pressures all groups to ass-imilate to homo-worship.

    , @Anon
    America is now the worst of all possible worlds when it comes to culture.

    New arrivals lose their culture and gain nothing.

    When America had a compelling and powerful narrative about the discoverers, founders, settlers, and builders, the newcomers might lose their ancestral culture and take on something meaningfully and proudly American. Even if not Anglo, they could take some of that Anglo spirit. It's like there was a time when even non-Romans felt special to be part of Roman civilization and Roman laws.

    But once the Plymouth Rock narrative got subverted and vilified by Ellis Island and Selma narrative, much of American History is about shame than achievement and pride.

    So, newcomers not only lose their original culture(which holds cultural and historical meaning) but take on an American Culture that is all about virtue-signaling whites taking a big crap on their own ancestors, history, and culture. It's utterly meaningless. What is there to be learned from whites who say 'we suck'?

    Now, the problem is not the Ellis Island and Selma narratives in and of themselves. They too are compelling narratives. The problem is how those narratives came to supplant the Plymouth Rock narrative instead of continuing it.

    Ellis Island was possible because of the earlier narrative of discovery and development. And Selma narrative was possible because America was founded on certain principles that found its full fruition for blacks in the Civil Rights movement.
    After all, even MLK got his ideas from white tradition, not black African tradition that is all about chucking spears at hippos and running like a mofo when a beast you missed ran after you. And there no concept of liberty and human rights in Africa.

    So, MLK should be seen as redemptive son of Founding Fathers. White America made promises but didn't fulfill them but it happened with Civil Rights. Blacks were denied the promise for too long, but still, Civil Rights was possible because the seeds of that promise had been planted on American soil. If US had been settled by any other people, there wouldn't have been the ideal of liberty and equality under the law.

    But instead of MLK being seen as son who redeemed the ideals of the Founders, he is called the new Founding Father by Time mag. As for Jefferson, let's just denounce him as a 'slave owner'. But did blacks found or lay down the ideals of America? No, in their civil rights movement, they only furthered what had been founded by others. Black leaders built on and repaired the work of the whites who had laid down the foundations.

    There could have been continuance from Plymouth to 1776 to Gettysburg to Ellis Island to Selma and beyond, but instead we got an ideological coup that said FU to all the narrative prior to Ellis Island.

    This America is totally amnesiac, contemptuous of its own heritage, and stupid.
    Worse, the rise of Pop Culture and celebrity vanity as main obsession of Americans has turned America Culture into a mania not only about the PC Current Year but the insipid Current Queer of one of umpteenth gender identity.

    So, what do new arrivals get from this America? They lose their own identity and take on fantasy culture of Hollywood and hateful vitriol of anti-history as Americanism.

    I think maybe hyphenization of Americanism would have been better for everyone had it caught on earlier. Maybe Anglos went too far in Anglo-Americanizing the newcomers.
    Before the rise of PC, most cultural identities were conservative. So, a hyphenized American was bound to be more conservative due to ties to old world. Also, US is essentially an extension of Europe. It is not a new civilization. So, if an average American spoke English and learned about George Washington but was also encouraged to maintain a sense of his ancestral ties, he might actually have been more conservative.
    Indeed, the reason why Catholics resisted social change more effectively than protestants did was because they had a connection to Vatican and tradition. That served to counter-balance the influence of US pop culture and fashion-fad-politics.

    I think of a Lithuanian-American guy I knew in college. He was all-American patriot and all that. But he had profound knowledge of Lithuanian history, culture, and etc. He even spoke the language perfectly. This made him more conservative, not less. He appreciated the idea of roots and heritage.
    In contrast, I see some totally Americanized Polish-Americans, and by golly... their only obsession is the Current Year and the Current Queer.
    , @Ivy

    Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.
     
    Yet the Philly establishment Quakers and Episcopalians, and their analogs in Chicago, saw a threat in the Polish and other Catholic enclaves. Those represented voting blocs and cultural differences that could destabilize the existing order. See The Slaughter of Cities by E. Michael Jones and related works by Michael Novak. The melting pot sometimes boiled over.
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  91. anon says: • Disclaimer

    unchecked, the internal logic of PC eventually leads to year zero – inevitably

    the only solution is a counter revolution where it gets burned with fire

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  92. syonredux says:
    @guest
    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn't know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he's talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete's sake.

    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn’t know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he’s talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake.

    His books clearly reveal his immigrant background, sure. But no one could mistake them for the work of a foreigner.

    He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake

    So did Tolstoy.

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    "no one could mistake them for the work of a foreigner"

    Of course not.

    "So did Tolstoy

    That's kinda the point.
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  93. syonredux says:
    @guest
    I'm surprised Steve didn't bring up Hamilton! First Jackson, maybe Ol' Jeff will be the next to fall to history's greatest Honorary Non-white.

    I assume Jefferson is in the play. It'd be weird if he wasn't. Did they make him Negro Jefferson, or something? Nevermind, that one won't take. You can only de-white one founding father at a time.

    I assume Jefferson is in the play. It’d be weird if he wasn’t.

    He is. Some of the biggest moments in the musical involve Hamilton and Jefferson arguing.

    Did they make him Negro Jefferson, or something?

    Yeah. From what I’ve heard, everyone except George III is played by a non-White.

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  94. syonredux says:
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Totally off topic. jews are now a race?
    https://www.igenea.com/en/jews

    Totally off topic. jews are now a race?

    If you like. Race, as a concept, can be scales up or scaled down. Hence, one can speak with equal validity of both Continental-scale races (Caucasoid, Australoid, etc) and of local races like Northern Europeans, Southern Europeans, etc.

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  95. syonredux says:
    @Kyle
    The rotunda is beautiful, and the honors dorms are really neat, I'm not sure if anyone actually lives in those dorms anymore, but they are giver to senior honor students I think. They all have their own fireplace and chimney, and they get fire wood delivered to them, very neat.

    July 14, 2011 — One of the University of Virginia’s earliest students has remained one of its most famous. Efforts are being made to keep his memory alive.

    Renovations on the West Range rooms this summer include some sprucing up of No. 13, purported to have been slept in by Edgar Allan Poe.

    The Raven Society maintains No. 13 as a shrine to Poe, a student at U.Va. from February to December 1826. A glass door allows visitors to see it furnished as a student room would have been in the early 19th century, and they can press a button to hear a recording about Poe’s time at U.Va. The furniture, which was provided by the Raven Society, is authentic to the period, but does not have any direct connection to Poe.

    https://news.virginia.edu/content/university-virginia-spirit-poe-resides-evermore

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    While at U-VA I dated a woman that lived on West Range, two doors down from Poe's old room. It helped my sex life nicely, as drunks would come by Poe's room most every night and pound on the door, try to summons his ghost, yell random gibberish, whatever. Consequently she wanted to spend the night at my apartment a lot.
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  96. @Canadian Observer
    Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

    No.

    Its the neocons trying to shape a Narrative that they are “in” this administration.

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  97. whorefinder says: • Website

    The 1984-ing of history will continue, unabated. SJWs always double down. It’s time to purge these troublesome haters from the positions of power and influence in our society. We have tolerated their intolerance and hate long enough.

    The pendulum swings back.

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    http://www.friatider.se/swedish-tv-star-chef-brutally-beaten-muslim-men-because-he-looked-mr-trump

    Just in case there'd be any doubts: Beaten b y muslim men...

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  99. snorlax says:

    I think the popularization of the grassy quad has a lot more to do with Harvard (also earlier), though UVA is certainly one of the best and earliest executions of the concept.

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  100. @Langley
    " for it tries to achieve the errorless – wich in itself is inhuman."

    Cute.

    Middle eastern rug makers always wove in a mistake for just that reason.

    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That’s how the light gets in.
    That’s how the light gets in.
    That’s how the light gets in.

    Leonard Cohen, Anthem

    Leonard Cohen had the – style! – to remark in an interview, that this is not his metaphor, but very old stuff. Your hint at the carpet-weavers therefor is a hint in the diretion of – – L. C.- – – (sigh)

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  101. OT – Steve, did you notice this, about the Wall Street fraternity Kappa Beta Phi, when it came out?

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/02/i-crashed-a-wall-street-secret-society.html

    “I’d heard whisperings about the existence of Kappa Beta Phi, whose members included both incredibly successful financiers (New York City’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former Goldman Sachs chairman John Whitehead, hedge-fund billionaire Paul Tudor Jones) and incredibly unsuccessful ones (Lehman Brothers CEO Dick Fuld, Bear Stearns CEO Jimmy Cayne, former New Jersey governor and MF Global flameout Jon Corzine). It was a secret fraternity, founded at the beginning of the Great Depression, that functioned as a sort of one-percenter’s Friars Club. Each year, the group’s dinner features comedy skits, musical acts in drag, and off-color jokes, and its group’s privacy mantra is “What happens at the St. Regis stays at the St. Regis.” For eight decades, it worked. No outsider in living memory had witnessed the entire proceedings firsthand.”

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  102. Coemgen says:
    @Anon
    Part of the problem is that today's leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some '60s protest, and they had kids in the early '70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the '90s. Today's college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what's going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I'd diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They're escalating their behaviors because they don't feel 'real' or validated as people unless they're getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn't want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who'd want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They're protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens' bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

    “… concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability …”

    In other words, characteristics that are often expressed as white girl problems.

    This is all status signalling:
    Low status people worry about where their next meal is coming from.
    Medium status people worry about whether or not their clothes match.
    High status people invent things to worry about.

    These pampered status seekers are trying to one-up each other by being more upset by even less reality. It should end well.

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  103. OT: Why does the NYT have it out for Steve Bannon? Is it just because he’s associated with Breitbart?

    They’re painting him as a raving anti-semite. Even the “Editorial Board” is weighing in. What’s their problem with him?

    Critics See Stephen Bannon, Trump’s Pick for Strategist, as Voice of Racism

    ‘Turn On the Hate’: Steve Bannon at the White House

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    new media (breitbart) is replachng msm and now has direct access to the prez. Bye bye nyt
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  104. backup says:

    You asked a while ago what the Obama administration will do on its way out. I’ll answer here. I think it is starting to look like he will allow a lot of refugees to relocate to the US:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/12/asia/australia-us-refugees-nauru-manus/

    Australia will transfer hundreds of refugees currently held in offshore detention centers to the United States in a landmark deal announced Sunday.

    Now Obama is visiting Greece:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/obama-trip-greece-germany-peru/index.html

    The pair are also likely to discuss the ongoing refugee crisis, which has resulted in massive waves of migrants fleeing Syria’s civil war arriving on Greece’s shores.

    I think it might very well be possible another such deal will be struck.

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  105. @Anonymous Nephew
    Looks like the War On Christmas Trees has begun early this year

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/tree-696039-fire-christmas.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3385563/Youths-destroy-town-centre-Christmas-tree-petrol-bomb-shouting-Allahu-Akbar-Belgian-city.html
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  106. markflag says:
    @JimboHarambe
    Easy solution. Fire all the faculty that don't want any part of Jefferson's legacy and expel any students who feel the same. They can attend one of the many fine universities founded and funded by left wing black lesbians. There's...um..let me think...wait..i got it...nope.

    I hear Oberlin has a few spots for faculty.

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  107. @Anon
    Part of the problem is that today's leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some '60s protest, and they had kids in the early '70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the '90s. Today's college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what's going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I'd diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They're escalating their behaviors because they don't feel 'real' or validated as people unless they're getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn't want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who'd want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They're protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens' bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

    >start with 2 people who met up at some ’60s protest, and they had kids in the early ’70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the ’90s. Today’s college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what’s going to happen.

    Don’t forget the drugs. I bet a not insignificant number of those kids conceived from late 60s to early 70s were getting dosed with LSD in the womb.

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  108. Thea says:
    @Njguy73
    “Election Day is one day a year, and the culture is the other 364 days a year, so if you’re not in there competing in the schools, competing in the pop culture, competing in the media, competing in the main-line churches, then the air we breathe becomes liberal.”

    “That’s the default setting in society. Whoever gets elected on a Tuesday morning in November doesn’t actually make much difference.” - Mark Steyn, 2014

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/20/mark-steyn-doesnt-matter-if-gop-win-midterms-liberals-winning-other-364-days-culture-wars-video/

    He is really right.

    We, the little people, have to resist this as a group or we will be in the same mess forever.

    I don’t have any strategies but am very open to ideas of how to counter this in public schools & universities. Every single admin and public school teacher must tow the SJW line.

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    2 Examples:

    My son's JC public speaking class. He said "mankind". The teacher wrote on his critique to "use inclusive language, say 'humankind'". Their text for the class reminds the students to never assume the audience is all heterosexual.

    what utter bunk.
    , @Njguy73
    Homeschooling and online college.

    Thank you and good night.
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  109. zitz says:
    @larry lurker
    OT: Why does the NYT have it out for Steve Bannon? Is it just because he's associated with Breitbart?

    They're painting him as a raving anti-semite. Even the "Editorial Board" is weighing in. What's their problem with him?

    Critics See Stephen Bannon, Trump’s Pick for Strategist, as Voice of Racism

    ‘Turn On the Hate’: Steve Bannon at the White House

    new media (breitbart) is replachng msm and now has direct access to the prez. Bye bye nyt

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    Yeah, one of the most interesting things to track in the aftermath of this election will be the fate of the media. It has become well and truly unhinged. Breitbart will certainly rise in importance. But it clearly needs to clean up its act so that it can be seen as a broad, reasonably balanced source of news, rather than as a purely partisan outlet. There's of course a place for such outlets, but there is much such a publication can't do that needs to be done. Fox News is perhaps a good model for a broader Breitbart, with, of course, necessary changes to reflect a Trumpian take on politics.

    Some of today's prominent media outlets must be awfully concerned as to their place in the new Trumpian world. The NY Times must wonder what its access and influence might be in a nation controlled at all political levels by Republicans, and by Trump at the top. And it can't stop itself from engaging in the most egregiously partisan behavior -- it's too deeply in the grip of its own dogmatic beliefs.

    Even a publication like People must wonder where it's going to go for the stupid things it does. No First Family would be better suited to be fodder for its high society porn, given the beauty and appeal of so many of the Trump family. But they went all-in on a vicious attack on Trump, with the frumpy reporter from People declaring that many years ago he forced his tongue down her throat -- while not of course in any way pursuing it at the time -- and the magazine declaring its full support of her. I'm sure when they published this attack, they all held it unthinkable he might ever win. I wonder how much regret they have now?

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  110. @Twinkie

    her resentment of how much the blond and tanned students respect UVA’s founder Thomas Jefferson.
     
    UVA is actually not all that "blond and tanned." Unlike, say, the University of Iowa or that legendary party school of the Midwest, KU.

    I was just there for family weekend and my impression is that there are surprisingly few NAMs–and not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).

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    Believe that about 6% of UVa undergrads are black, with a similar number of hispanics (mostly conquistadors). Pretty low among both its academic and flagship state peers.

    Assuming things are similar to my days there, the (mutually voluntary) segregation is pretty pervasive, explaining why you may not have run into many.
    , @Twinkie

    not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).
     
    Harvard is something like 20+% Asian. UVA is around 13%, so, yes, it has fewer Asians (and more whites). But that pales - pardon the pun - in comparison to something like the University of Iowa, which is only 4% Asian, lower than even the national percentage of Asians.

    Also - and this was more to my original point - East Coast "whites" tend to be much more "ethnic" and darker, and not nearly as "blond and tan." Universities such as Iowa and KU have whites who are very Germanic in ancestry.

    I think the leftist attacks on UVA as being too "blond and tan" has more to do with its status as a relatively conservative elite school more than it being too pale. The likes of Erdely are not going after Iowa and KU after all, probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (intellectual) threats to her people.
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  111. Thea says:
    @Anon
    "Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals."

    It's like radical version of Pokemon Go or Pokemon Prog.

    It used to be kids hunted for eggs on Easter.

    But now they hunt for 'racists', and since there aren't any, you gotta play games like KKK at Oberlin or Nazi rape gang at UVA or whatever.

    This is why Pepe as meme is so funny. It's a riff on the cartoonishness of the so-called Left.
    And these progs fell for the frog.

    Alt Right put some fashy symbols on the frog, and LOL ROTFL college professors began to give lectures on the EVIL meaning of Pepe. They got trolled.

    Hate Hoaxes are like a game. Someone makes a fake hoax, and a game starts to hunt down the 'racist', 'nazi', or 'homophobe'. And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it. It's their version of fox hunting.

    Hate Hoax is like Snoopy as the Mad Punter.

    https://collectpeanuts.com/comicstrips/livesofsnoopy/241345.full.gif

    And I think the homo and tranny stuff made it all the sillier.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    Also, there is increasing friction with the Movement because all these groups have such different racial, economic, and cultural backgrounds and goals. But they are all supposed to worship Diversity. So, even though they can't stand each other, they must pretend to do so... and find some way to twist all their frustrations and dump blame on whitey.

    I think that black girl who went nuts at Yale over halloween costumes is really pissed that all these immigrants and homos are pushing blacks to the back of the bus. But since Diversity is sacrosanct, she can't bitch about that. So, her fury blows up at white male over something totally inane.

    If leftists had held Obama’a feet to the fire about war mongering I would have greatly respected them.

    As it is we regularly bomb 7 countries but no one on the left can criticize a black man ever no matter how poorly one behaves.

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    Most progs are followers who just tag along.

    Prog Central with money and resources is controlled by the Glob with a certain tribal agenda, and it had to use Obama and Hillary to achieve those means.

    So, Proggism is shaped by ethnicism.

    It's like Soros and others never funded the protesters to march against Libyan War, Syrian War, or US provocations in Ukraine.

    Instead, they spent huge sums to agitate EU into taking in all those refugees.

    Hype the moralism of Invite to distract people from the state terrorism of Invade.

    Most progs just go with Prog Central.
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  112. @scrivener3
    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

    Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill William Jefferson Clinton …

    :-)

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  113. Njguy73 says:
    @guest
    Should we get out ahead of them and just name everything after MLK?

    "Where'd you go to school?"

    "MLK#134789-045"

    "Oh, I hear that campus is nice."

    "Wanna grab a bite to eat? MLK#320469-780 is right around the corner."

    "Nah, I gotta pick my dry cleaning up across town at MLK#907430-511."

    Should we get out ahead of them and just name everything after MLK?

    No, just a third. One third Harriet Tubman and the other third Sojourner Truth.

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  114. Okie says:
    @Kyle
    Isn't FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

    As on of the responders noted, the majority of his ancestors were Anglo, but he I’d himself as Dutch and famously said that the country belongs to the Anglos and the Dutch and everyone else is here on sufferance.

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    Re: FDR.

    The Delanos arrived on the first boat after the Mayflower.
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  115. Ex-Hoo says:
    @Percy Gryce
    I was just there for family weekend and my impression is that there are surprisingly few NAMs--and not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).

    Believe that about 6% of UVa undergrads are black, with a similar number of hispanics (mostly conquistadors). Pretty low among both its academic and flagship state peers.

    Assuming things are similar to my days there, the (mutually voluntary) segregation is pretty pervasive, explaining why you may not have run into many.

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  116. Mr. Anon says:
    @Opinionator
    To be fair, it is a public institution. They could argue that they are already forced to pay for it.

    Does anyone have a sense of how well U.Va. would fare as a private institution?

    Actually, most of them probably aren’t paying for it, not with their own money anyway, but with the bank’s money. And a lot of Virginians who don’t even go to college but pay taxes to support it none-the-less think that Thomas Jefferson is just fine with them.

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  117. @Anon
    "Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals."

    It's like radical version of Pokemon Go or Pokemon Prog.

    It used to be kids hunted for eggs on Easter.

    But now they hunt for 'racists', and since there aren't any, you gotta play games like KKK at Oberlin or Nazi rape gang at UVA or whatever.

    This is why Pepe as meme is so funny. It's a riff on the cartoonishness of the so-called Left.
    And these progs fell for the frog.

    Alt Right put some fashy symbols on the frog, and LOL ROTFL college professors began to give lectures on the EVIL meaning of Pepe. They got trolled.

    Hate Hoaxes are like a game. Someone makes a fake hoax, and a game starts to hunt down the 'racist', 'nazi', or 'homophobe'. And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it. It's their version of fox hunting.

    Hate Hoax is like Snoopy as the Mad Punter.

    https://collectpeanuts.com/comicstrips/livesofsnoopy/241345.full.gif

    And I think the homo and tranny stuff made it all the sillier.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    Also, there is increasing friction with the Movement because all these groups have such different racial, economic, and cultural backgrounds and goals. But they are all supposed to worship Diversity. So, even though they can't stand each other, they must pretend to do so... and find some way to twist all their frustrations and dump blame on whitey.

    I think that black girl who went nuts at Yale over halloween costumes is really pissed that all these immigrants and homos are pushing blacks to the back of the bus. But since Diversity is sacrosanct, she can't bitch about that. So, her fury blows up at white male over something totally inane.

    “And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it.”

    The majority of headlines aimed at this group can be paraphrased as “This Will Make You Outraged!” And who doesn’t enjoy that feeling of self-righteousness you get while condemning others?

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  118. Romanian says:
    @Jefferson
    Donald Trump won 57 percent of the vote in Staten Island.
    http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/to_understand_pro-trump_voters.html

    God bless my people the Italians.

    On the flip side Crooked Hildabeast won Orange County, which was once a bastion of conservatism but no longer.

    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.

    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.

    This made me lol. It really shows how you can internalize a shitty situation as being part of the ordinary landscape. Just like most of you have accepted that 1965 is a done deal and that you can’t even go back to pre-2000 demographics. I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)

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    " I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)"

    I mention The San Gabriel Valley because it is one of the few places in the mainland lower 48 United States where Asians outnumber Whites.

    Asians make up only 5 percent of The U.S population, but in the suburbs of The San Gabriel Valley they range from 50 percent Asian to over 70 percent Asian.

    As a White person I remember experiencing culture shock first stepping foot in The San Gabriel Valley.

    The San Gabriel Valley sticks out like a sore thumb in a country that's not very Asian demographics wise.
    , @Anonymous
    1 million Chinese immigrants to Romania would do a lot of good for the host country. Both Portugal and Latvia now have buy-property-get-citizenship programs with the Chinese in mind.
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  119. @AndrewR
    Anyone who thinks this republic can be salvaged is insane at best.

    No, but a European American nation can be.

    I’m not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people’s interests.

    When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don’t forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment.

    Give European Americans who want to preserve their people and culture some place to go, some place that will protect them. If a guy gets fired for standing up for European Americans, get him a job. (For example, Jason Richwine would have immediately found a job in a think tank in my world.) You also let those European Americans who don’t want to preserve their people and culture know that they aren’t welcome. No violence, just exclusion.

    A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won’t be that important. We’ll have our nation that insulates us.

    One needs only look at the demographics of the children being born today to understand that the United States is finished as a middle-class, civic-minded country. Trump or no Trump, European Americans – my children – need to do what races throughout history have done: Look out for their own and push for as much self-determination as possible under the circumstances.

    Time to build a new European American nation.

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    People here have to keep in mind that it is the Coalition of the Left fringe groups who make these demands, not liberals in general. But, to the Alt Right, it much easier for there narrative to make in-roads by neglecting to make this distinction.

    "I’m not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people’s interests."

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.

    Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends.

    "When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don’t forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment."

    You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality.

    "A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won’t be that important. We’ll have our nation that insulates us."

    What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to "come around" your line of thinking?

    "Time to build a new European American nation."

    You go, girlfriend!
    , @melendwyr
    Culturally most 'white people' AREN'T my people. Our shared ethnicity is far less important than our worldviews and beliefs about reality - which render them more alien to me than a Grey would be.

    Ethnicity is important, but it's not paramount.
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  120. @jtgw
    So they're happy to attend a university founded and designed by a slave-holder, but it's racist to mention his name?

    An example of the incoherence of the politically-correct stormtroopers.

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  121. @Okie
    As on of the responders noted, the majority of his ancestors were Anglo, but he I'd himself as Dutch and famously said that the country belongs to the Anglos and the Dutch and everyone else is here on sufferance.

    Re: FDR.

    The Delanos arrived on the first boat after the Mayflower.

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    No doubt about that and his side of the Roosevelts started marrying Anglos long before Teddy's side, TR's father was the first to marry outside the dutch, and remember FDR's wife was Teddy's Neice.
    That said, especially with the wealth coming from the dutch side being lucky enough to have real estate in NYC, the surname and marrying back into a less mixed side, I'm assuming something that reminds me of a lot of Indians i know in OK. Most tribes here have a blood quanta for membership, but it can be 1/32 or 1/64 or even less in a lot of them. The odd thing is there is a inverse relation between Indian ID and Actual blood. The full and half bloods are Americans and then Indians, the mostly whites are Indians then Americans. That said i don't know intimate details about him, I've read a few bios of TR, but none of him.
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  122. Key word from Lawrie Balfour:

    others of us came here in spite of it

    Definition of spite:

    noun
    1.
    a malicious, usually petty, desire to harm, annoy, frustrate, or humiliate another person; bitter ill will; malice.
    2.
    a particular instance of such an attitude or action; grudge.
    3.
    Obsolete. something that causes vexation; annoyance.

    verb (used with object), spited, spiting.
    4.
    to treat with spite or malice.
    5.
    to annoy or thwart, out of spite.
    6.
    to fill with spite; vex; offend.

    Lawrie Balfour, a tenured professor drawing a comfortable salary (with a likely very nice pension at the end of it all) admitted her purpose is to be malicious to the institution that employs her. Very strange.

    Her profile:

    http://politics.virginia.edu/lawrie-balfour/

    If she had stated that their shared purpose was to change the way people think through moral and ethical arguments in good faith, through a charitable Christian understanding that love for all should be our guiding principle, I could understand that, and maybe be persuaded. As it stands, it appears she (and others sympathetic to her) only have malice and hate in their hearts, from a simply different racist perspective. How does this not end in a bitter trail of tears?

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  123. @scrivener3
    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

    Some people consider Jefferson a leftist for his time, so I think your point needs further refinement.

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    Leftists of today will happily sacrifice the leftists of yesterday. Permanent revolution!
    , @SFG
    The sides really don't line up with modern right and left when you go that far back. Jefferson was for rural and southern interests and decentralization but also was very suspicious of organized religion. Hamilton was for a central bank and a strong federal government. They actually kind of line up with our present developing globalist-populist axis, but that's a new development.

    You get all kinds of weird alliances when you go back far enough--William Jennings Bryan was a Christian socialist, New York City was a hotbed of pro-Confederate sentiment in the Civil War... coalitions form and reform. Heck, back in the early 60s the white working class, the very people who elected Trump, were Democrats.
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  124. Hunsdon says:
    @PiltdownMan
    'tis a pity Jefferson did not turn lend his genius to the design of golf courses.

    Who knows what he would have come up with?

    That’s just cruel. (I like it.)

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  125. @anonymous coward

    Martin Luther King, Junior College
     
    Who wants to go to a "Junior College"?

    Who wants to go to a “Junior College”?

    Everyone at Stanford, for starters.

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  126. @cthulhu
    Calls to mind one of my favorite quotes: "...I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." - Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800.

    That's on the dome of the Jefferson Memorial, which is one of my favorite places to visit in DC. So peaceful to just hang out there and think.

    Agreed. The most beautiful monument in DC. And a great quote by a great man.

    A few expulsions and firings at UVA would get their attention. Or maybe they can all transfer/get jobs at Hiawatha State in South Dakota.

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  127. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Kushner's father was convicted and jailed for the "usual" white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey's federal prosecutor. This didn't endear Kushner to Christie.

    While Kushner is bad, Christie is despicable. I'll never forgive Christie for man-hugging Obama at the tail-end of the 2012 Presidential campaign.

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner's influence through DJT's paternal affection for his daughter.

    “Kushner’s father was convicted and jailed for the “usual” white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey’s federal prosecutor. This didn’t endear Kushner to Christie. ”

    Charles Kushner wasn’t just convicted of the “usual” white collar crimes:

    Major Donor Admits Hiring Prostitute to Smear Witness

    “The biggest political donor in New Jersey pleaded guilty on Wednesday to trying to compromise a witness in a campaign finance investigation by setting him up with a prostitute and secretly videotaping the sexual encounter.”

    Kushner (pere), formerly a major donor to the Democratic party, was also involved in the McGreevy affair, sponsoring a work visa for McGreevy’s Israeli boy-toy. He sounds like a class-act all round.

    Interestingly, the Kushner Companies are the owners of 666 5th Avenue. Now it takes some guts to buy that property (or some connections, anyway).

    “While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter.”

    It would be a shame if we narrowly avoided electing Lady MacBeth, only to have elected King Lear instead.

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    Mr. Anon,

    You certainly and correctly expanded on my use of "usual." This family expands the definition of white collar crime to a new dimension.

    Thank you for your expose of this family of political and business vipers.
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  128. OT: Word of the Day – Schadenboner

    Schadenboner, n, f., Germlish. The erection experienced by a male rightie at the misery lefties feel when they are utterly routed and rejected, horrified, humiliated, and hounded from power. Those experiencing a Schadenboner lasting more than two days should seek medical attention (h/t Francis Turner). Note: This title was chosen and this column was inspired by and is dedicated to Cora Buhlert, of Bremen, Germany, based on a rant she posted, here: http://corabuhlert.com/2016/11/10/attention-rant-incoming/

    From a rant by Tom Kratman: http://www.everyjoe.com/2016/11/14/politics/hillary-supporters-arent-educated-just-stupid/#1

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  129. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Thea
    If leftists had held Obama'a feet to the fire about war mongering I would have greatly respected them.

    As it is we regularly bomb 7 countries but no one on the left can criticize a black man ever no matter how poorly one behaves.

    Most progs are followers who just tag along.

    Prog Central with money and resources is controlled by the Glob with a certain tribal agenda, and it had to use Obama and Hillary to achieve those means.

    So, Proggism is shaped by ethnicism.

    It’s like Soros and others never funded the protesters to march against Libyan War, Syrian War, or US provocations in Ukraine.

    Instead, they spent huge sums to agitate EU into taking in all those refugees.

    Hype the moralism of Invite to distract people from the state terrorism of Invade.

    Most progs just go with Prog Central.

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  130. Marcus says:

    (((Lawrie Balfour))) might do well to consider how much her tribe profited from slavery, not just as traders, but as owners.

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    Well I'm glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer's having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it's time for the Occam's rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer's pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle "antigentilism" tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer's more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone's gotta earn a livin.
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  131. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. I
     
    Scots-Irish are Anglo.

    German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.
     
    Rather more than that. The pre-60's WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.

    “Scots-Irish are Anglo.”

    When we say Wasp, we really mean East Coast Brahmin types, not the moon-shine swilling fellers who hunt possum and name their kids bubba and lyle.
    How many Boston Brahmin families named their kid ‘bubba’ or spoke a funny kind of dialect?

    Scotch-Irish types were neanderthal version of the Anglo.

    “German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.”

    I think Germans would have assimilated even if there was no WWI factor. And in fact, most had.

    Besides, in demeanor and habits, Germans were more waspy than the Scotch-Irish were.

    It’s the Scotch-Irish that were acting like this:

    The main German threat was not ethnic but ideological as good number of them were socialists.

    Perhaps it was the crushing of the Left that had the real long-term effect on controlling German political power.

    “Rather more than that. The pre-60′s WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.”

    In a way, that was the problem. As there was a white-bread element in Wasp culture, it pressured non-Anglos to lose their sense of roots and become ‘bland’. Blandness, like a vacuum, calls out to be filled.

    So, as white ethnics became more Anglo-ized, they were more vulnerable to fads and fashions since they lost their roots. So, Anglo-ization hastened Liberalism.

    Look at Ortho Jews who cling to culture. More likely to be conservative.
    But waspized Jews became more Liberal.

    In a way, the pressure to Anglo-ize is still present. It’s just that wasp power, in fusion with Jewish power, is less about Anglo-ness than about PC-ness, MLK-ness, and homo-ness that are the new religion of America.

    America today applies just as much assimilationist pressures as in the past. It’s just that today’s Anglos are more eager for newcomers to worship Harvey Milk than George Washington.
    These PC Anglos do NOT want newcomers to cling to their original culture as such conservatism goes against PC.

    PC multi-cultism has NO TOLERANCE for newcomers who say “I reject ‘gay marriage’ as an affront to my cultural values.”

    Multi-cultism only tolerates and celebrates superficial stuff like food and costumes. It has no interest in the actual moral and intellectual underpinnings of other cultures.

    Anglo has gone homo and pressures all groups to ass-imilate to homo-worship.

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    "PC multi-cultism has NO TOLERANCE for newcomers who say “I reject ‘gay marriage’ as an affront to my cultural values.”

    I don'the see the Left shaming Muslims for not accepting Gay marriage and World War T. You don't see Lena Dunham, Miley Cyrus, Whoopi Goldberg, Amy Schumer, Chelsea Handler, Cher, Samantha Bee, etc bashing Muslim countries for stoning Gays.

    The Left's hatred of White Christians trumps their concern for the civil rights of the LGBTQueen community.

    If the civil rights of the LGBTQ community was their top concern, they would not advocate for mass Muslim immigration into liberal Gay friendly White Western nations.

    The Democratic Party is about to elect a Muslim to be the chairman of their party, less than 1 year after the Orlando Gay nightclub massacre which was committed by a Muslim.

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  132. Mark Caplan says: • Website
    @scrivener3
    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

    Bill Clinton will no doubt explain his parents were honoring George Jefferson of the TV show The Jeffersons when they gave him his dubious-in-some-circles middle name, just as Hillary said she was named after intrepid mountaineer Sir Edmund Percival Hillary.

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  133. Gabriel M says:
    @Marcus
    (((Lawrie Balfour))) might do well to consider how much her tribe profited from slavery, not just as traders, but as owners.

    Well I’m glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer’s having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it’s time for the Occam’s rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer’s pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle “antigentilism” tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer’s more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone’s gotta earn a livin.

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    Fact: Jews disproportionately benefited from slavery (though not to the extent NOI claims), then became the staunchest champions of "civil rights" less than a century later.
    https://twitter.com/peterbeinart/status/796372768145014785
    We should have a long memory too
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Sailer’s pet obsessions
     
    Steve’s overarching “obsession”/contribution is Noticing many interesting, important things. If some detractors get hives because they would rather he avert his eyes when it comes to certain ‘every goddamn time’ patterns, that’s on them, not Steve or anyone else.
    , @Opinionator
    We take the liberty around here of noticing things. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
    , @SPMoore8
    Actually, if you have followed this blog with anything but an ethno-centric obsession, you would know that the only reason why Sailer has a #antigentilism hashtag is because Sabrina Rubin Erdeley is obviously Jewish and when she wrote her article about "Jackie" she also very obviously slurred UVA, and moreover described the putatively predominant blue eyed blond flavor of the campus. In similar ways he quoted a poem "University" by "Karl Shapiro" which also showed a distinct animus towards UVA, and couched it in terms of hostility to blacks, Jews, and Deliverance-level incest, and he has also observed other Jewish creative people demonstrating not only a weird hostility to non-Jews (e.g., the guy who made "Mad Men") but also an equally weird sense of persecution among Jewish Americans (Peter Beinart's tweet quoted elsewhere).

    Is there something -- here? -- WRT to Jews having this odd obsession with non-Jews? "Anti-gentilism" may not be the best choice of words but it's the only thing we have at the moment.

    So #antigentilism

    along with #HavenMonahan are default hashtags having to do with #UVA, which is why they were listed in the article.

    Now, in terms of the petition itself, I believe it was drafted by an AA woman on the Psychology Department staff, and I don't think she's Jewish. Another member of that department, named Dodd (not very Jewish sounding to me) is the husband of "Lawrie" and while the first name is odd (short for "Lawrence"? Like her parents wanted a son? Life she was named after some radical Jewish something? Like who?) and Balfour isn't Jewish, no matter what declarations one might make. (I think she's kind of cute, but then, I'm old.)

    http://politics.virginia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/pt1.jpg

    So, not to disappoint you, but I don't think Steve's post has anything to do with (((Jews))) or catering to people who don't like them. If someone wants to be promiscuous in their uses of parentheses, that's on them.
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  134. Svigor says:

    I think Giuliani deserves a spot. Rewarding your allies is how politics works. Bolton, on the other hand, does not. He didn’t have enough pull going in to merit anything significant, even if he did support Trump.

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

    What were all the first straws?

    While Rinse Pubis as CoS isn’t what I’d call a good sign, it isn’t what I’d call a bad sign, either. Trump’s going to have to work with the GOP. With regard to Pubis as CoS, the question is, who will be driving whom? I see no evidence at all that it will be Rinse driving Trump, so I figure a wait and see attitude is best.

    Eh, I think having Preibus around is a good thing. The guy needs someone who knows how things work and has connections to the old regime. Otherwise he is really going to be lost with all these political novices.

    Right. As long as Trump is driving Pubis, it’s should be a good thing. It depends on how uppity Pubis gets. He may balk at serving Trump’s agenda. On the other hand, he should already have a pretty good idea of Trump’s agenda going in, and he took the job anyway. But maybe his plan is to “civilize” Trump. But that’s risky, because if he fails, he could wind up tainted. Maybe he’s just signed on to Trump’s agenda? We’ll have to wait and see.

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.

    Wasn’t Thomas Jefferson, and weren’t all of the Founders, leftist for their time?

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.

    Oy vey. That would be perfect. You know what might be even better? “Yes, I thought long and hard about removing MLK’s bust from the Oval Office, because of his horrible treatment of and abuse to women, but then I decided to keep it there anyway.” Then he could refer back to that throughout his presidency, when challenged to repudiate this or that. 1) Publicly reinforce MLK’s horrible treatment of women a couple hundred times, and 2) use him as an excuse to refuse leftist demands.

    I’m sure that’s to keep the “clansmen” calm. Politico doesn’t know who has the last word with, it might be one of his sons, it might be Lewandowski or Bannon. It might be nobody.

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter.

    Common sense suggests blood has a leg up, but also that married daughters get less influence, because their husbands tend to have more influence over them.

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    It could be that the final word in the White House will belong to Donald Trump?
    , @Anon
    If Trump has any sense, he'll loan the MLK bust permanently to the Museum of African American History and Culture where tourists can look at it, and put Churchill back in his office. That way he doesn't have to see MLK's ugly mug, yet all the tourists will be thinking Trump's honored blacks (because they got to see the MLK bust with their own eyes! SJW squeal!). That would solve the problem. Any future president who has funny ideas about putting MLK back in the White House will have to deal with the shrieks of outrage from SJWers about it being stolen from its proper place in a museum honoring blacks. In the long term, it can be quietly donated to the museum and forgotten about.
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  135. @guest
    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn't know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he's talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete's sake.

    You read more than one of his books? Eek. I read Mr. Sammler’s Planet and it was totally disgusting and dispiriting.

    If he’s critiquing “cultures” then I assume he’s discouraged about downtown blacks or spoiled rich kids.

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    It was a little disgusting, but what were the more disgusting moments? The scary negro cornering the old man, the baby boom daughters' sexuality, etc. Those are proper things to be disgusted by.

    I like to think it's healthy to be dispirited by 1970 America. Who was in charge? Bellow is what you might almost term a neoconservative, though maybe he doesn't quite qualify. I don't know. But he does a lot of self-criticism of his own tribe, both ethnic and ideological. The latter of which was former pinko midcentury liberalism. By the time of Sammler he definitely wasn't that.

    The big flaw if that book, for me, is the Holocaust nostalgia, by which I'm utterly bored. But I probably wouldn't be as bored had I been alive when it was written.

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  136. Wade says:

    University of Virginia President Teresa Sullivan is being asked to refrain from quoting Thomas Jefferson because of his racist beliefs, according to The Cavalier Daily.

    Why is there a concerted effort to delete from the history books all traces of America’s origins and who stands to benefit from it? It’s not rational. You can pick any great non-white leader in history, Gandhi certainly, probably even MLK, and find evidence for racism in their beliefs. In the case of MLK, if not racism, misogyny or worse (rape).

    All great people who accomplish something did something sinful or horrible. That’s no reason to commit suicide.

    Who stands to benefit when the last vestiges of the USA belonging to the grand Christian European heritage are wiped out? I mean the fight is on and they are winning because when I typed that last statement I guiltily asked myself, “wait, does it make me a racist or white supremacist or something for typing that sentence?” I find that I have to remind myself quite often about the existence of Japan and China and other nations that are organized around the interests of a common people in order to continue to exist: My self doubt is then assuaged. Of course a commonality among people is a basic requirement for an organized nation state even to be justified, let alone succeed. This is obvious, right?

    Off topic but did anyone watch SNL’s opening Requiem for Hillary the past Saturday? The SNL cast clearly took Tuesday’s results hard. In a skit with a surprise appearance from Chris Rock the cast joked about how much they’ve been in a bubble and the people on the coasts know nothing about how people in the interior feel about politics. But this was long obvious to all of us. I guess there never was much hope in these east coast types ever having anticipated the fissures in American society that would be introduced by extremely rapidly changing demographics. They still thought that America would look past this huge divide to elect Hillary out of solidarity with Destiny, or the Right Side Of History, or something.

    Does the cast of SNL and others like them still not get that this over-arching desire to have the first black president, the first female president (even to the possible detriment of other societal issues caused by the affirmative action candidate. Hillary would’ve done permanent damage to the middle class’s ability to stand up to the globalist oligarchs, for instance) is a fairly quaint feature of our culture? Since we are in the throes of dismantling all remaining vestiges of the privilege granted to this distinct European-American people by our forefathers and effectively advertising to the world “We are an equal opportunity immigration destination”, we will ironically not much longer be able to grant “privilege” to any of our nation’s prerogatives, whether they be progressive or conservative in nature, let alone those that are unique, quaint and basically unnecessary to our nation’s survival like having a female president.

    I hope this is a wake up call for everyone. Hey, on the upside, SNL was finally funny again thanks to David Chapelle as their guest host:

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  137. Marcus says:
    @Gabriel M
    Well I'm glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer's having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it's time for the Occam's rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer's pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle "antigentilism" tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer's more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone's gotta earn a livin.

    Fact: Jews disproportionately benefited from slavery (though not to the extent NOI claims), then became the staunchest champions of “civil rights” less than a century later.

    We should have a long memory too

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    The irony of Beinart's tweet couldn't be more obvious.

    Beinart wants to signal to the world that Jews are emphatically not on the side of other whites. But, then, how is it in any way surprising if those whites see Jews as a group to be a force arrayed against their interests, and deeply resent them?

    If one wants to communicate that Jews shouldn't be treated as opponents of other whites, that such a belief is a "canard", the last thing one would want to do would be to suggest that Jews are united as a group against the interests of other whites.

    But here we have Beinart doing just that.

    , @Gabriel M
    Whatever. If I took a Peter Beinhart article about the poor wee Palestinians and posted it in Taki's mag, you'd think it was the best thing ever.
    , @eah
    Because we remember.

    What do they remember?
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  138. 22pp22 says:
    @IHTG
    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    Abe in Japan has declared war on the social sciences, arts and humanities. That is the way forward. Defund them and concentrate on more useful, demanding subjects.

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  139. @Thea
    He is really right.

    We, the little people, have to resist this as a group or we will be in the same mess forever.

    I don't have any strategies but am very open to ideas of how to counter this in public schools & universities. Every single admin and public school teacher must tow the SJW line.

    2 Examples:

    My son’s JC public speaking class. He said “mankind”. The teacher wrote on his critique to “use inclusive language, say ‘humankind’”. Their text for the class reminds the students to never assume the audience is all heterosexual.

    what utter bunk.

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  140. @Svigor
    I think Giuliani deserves a spot. Rewarding your allies is how politics works. Bolton, on the other hand, does not. He didn't have enough pull going in to merit anything significant, even if he did support Trump.

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.
     
    What were all the first straws?

    While Rinse Pubis as CoS isn't what I'd call a good sign, it isn't what I'd call a bad sign, either. Trump's going to have to work with the GOP. With regard to Pubis as CoS, the question is, who will be driving whom? I see no evidence at all that it will be Rinse driving Trump, so I figure a wait and see attitude is best.

    Eh, I think having Preibus around is a good thing. The guy needs someone who knows how things work and has connections to the old regime. Otherwise he is really going to be lost with all these political novices.
     
    Right. As long as Trump is driving Pubis, it's should be a good thing. It depends on how uppity Pubis gets. He may balk at serving Trump's agenda. On the other hand, he should already have a pretty good idea of Trump's agenda going in, and he took the job anyway. But maybe his plan is to "civilize" Trump. But that's risky, because if he fails, he could wind up tainted. Maybe he's just signed on to Trump's agenda? We'll have to wait and see.

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
     
    Wasn't Thomas Jefferson, and weren't all of the Founders, leftist for their time?

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.
     
    Oy vey. That would be perfect. You know what might be even better? "Yes, I thought long and hard about removing MLK's bust from the Oval Office, because of his horrible treatment of and abuse to women, but then I decided to keep it there anyway." Then he could refer back to that throughout his presidency, when challenged to repudiate this or that. 1) Publicly reinforce MLK's horrible treatment of women a couple hundred times, and 2) use him as an excuse to refuse leftist demands.

    I’m sure that’s to keep the “clansmen” calm. Politico doesn’t know who has the last word with, it might be one of his sons, it might be Lewandowski or Bannon. It might be nobody.
     

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter.
     
    Common sense suggests blood has a leg up, but also that married daughters get less influence, because their husbands tend to have more influence over them.

    It could be that the final word in the White House will belong to Donald Trump?

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  141. Complaining about Thomas Jefferson at a university is an easy way to gain attention and sympathy on the world’s stage. If you have some bitterness in life, you didn’t find true love, you don’t have the career or status that you wanted, the world normally doesn’t care, you won’t be featured on global news. Leading a university movement against a sacred figure like Thomas Jefferson is just an easy way to do something that has world news sympathy.

    Taking these complaints seriously at face value is a mistake. Just like terrorists are often just lashing out for attention a lot of these protests are the same thing.

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  142. @newrouter
    ot

    "This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger who coined the notion back in 2000. Steve Sailer’s essential idea, that the GOP needed to max out the white vote to keep winning national elections in the face of changing demographics, was rejected by most Republicans as smacking of racism."

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Steve,
    Sorry you’ve been downgraded from a preeminent IQ journalist to a blogger. Life ain’t fair.

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    downgraded (…) to a blogger
     
    Steve is to blogging like Paul Bunyan is to logging. Except Steve is real. I hear tell that Big Steve recently approved 1,359 comments in one day while continuously posting a good number of articles and also finding time to enjoy a comic opera.
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  143. @zitz
    new media (breitbart) is replachng msm and now has direct access to the prez. Bye bye nyt

    Yeah, one of the most interesting things to track in the aftermath of this election will be the fate of the media. It has become well and truly unhinged. Breitbart will certainly rise in importance. But it clearly needs to clean up its act so that it can be seen as a broad, reasonably balanced source of news, rather than as a purely partisan outlet. There’s of course a place for such outlets, but there is much such a publication can’t do that needs to be done. Fox News is perhaps a good model for a broader Breitbart, with, of course, necessary changes to reflect a Trumpian take on politics.

    Some of today’s prominent media outlets must be awfully concerned as to their place in the new Trumpian world. The NY Times must wonder what its access and influence might be in a nation controlled at all political levels by Republicans, and by Trump at the top. And it can’t stop itself from engaging in the most egregiously partisan behavior — it’s too deeply in the grip of its own dogmatic beliefs.

    Even a publication like People must wonder where it’s going to go for the stupid things it does. No First Family would be better suited to be fodder for its high society porn, given the beauty and appeal of so many of the Trump family. But they went all-in on a vicious attack on Trump, with the frumpy reporter from People declaring that many years ago he forced his tongue down her throat — while not of course in any way pursuing it at the time — and the magazine declaring its full support of her. I’m sure when they published this attack, they all held it unthinkable he might ever win. I wonder how much regret they have now?

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    Sure. How about denying WH press credentials to NYT, NPR, Wapo, NBC, MSNBC, etc? Their questions will be nothing other than have you stopped sodomizing four year olds today. Let them use the pool report.

    DJT is too much of a gentleman to do this, but I can dream.
    , @Lagertha
    saw People Magazine post election with photos and all, of the Trump family. I recall a condescending tone a few times, but obviously, People is now caught in a vice. It is still staggering to me that NYT and all the networks that disparaged him constantly, never saw the Mac truck hitting them. I predicted last winter, even earlier, that he would win because the Coastal Elites forgot (Hillary ignored) that they are detached and unaware of what life is like for "Everyday" Americans. With the heroin deaths of depressed young people up sky-high, they were clueless how that is connected to the despair in the factory ghost towns across New England to the Rustbelt and Plains. I hope they feel ashamed because they didn't give a sh*t about half the American people, and they lost; looked like fools sputtering, mouths agape. They still don't "get it" since they are claiming it is due to the racism of all Trump supporters. First they tried condescension and detachment, and lost; now they are opting for racism & bigotry. They didn't learn anything - you can't randomly call people racist if you have no facts about their behavior, maligning people won't give you the results you want. And, all the brilliant tech entrepreneurs or corporate types who may read here: wouldn't it have been smarter to open up satellite SV plants and tech hubs in the Rust Belt, at least near the college towns, for the last 15 years? California: The Rent Is Too Damn High for young people.
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  144. @Anon
    Mohammad had slaves too. So let's never hear of anything he was involved with again.

    I liked having Muslims in El Cid.

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  145. @Marcus
    Fact: Jews disproportionately benefited from slavery (though not to the extent NOI claims), then became the staunchest champions of "civil rights" less than a century later.
    https://twitter.com/peterbeinart/status/796372768145014785
    We should have a long memory too

    The irony of Beinart’s tweet couldn’t be more obvious.

    Beinart wants to signal to the world that Jews are emphatically not on the side of other whites. But, then, how is it in any way surprising if those whites see Jews as a group to be a force arrayed against their interests, and deeply resent them?

    If one wants to communicate that Jews shouldn’t be treated as opponents of other whites, that such a belief is a “canard”, the last thing one would want to do would be to suggest that Jews are united as a group against the interests of other whites.

    But here we have Beinart doing just that.

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    Beinart, you say? As far as I'm concerned, Peter Beinart is a subtitle hero for giving Trump his slogan "Make American Great Again"; see
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/741347.The_Good_Fight
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  146. @Clyde

    “This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger....."
     
    On Fox tonight I heard Monica Crowley use the word megaphone. Obviously in the way Steve does. Who else refers to the media megaphone?

    My Sunday mornings used to include watching the McLaughlin Group with coffee after Sunday brunch. The camera that caught Buchanan with Crowley in the background allowed you to listen to him and watch her at the same time. Those were the days…

    My memory is that Crowley was a GOPe neocon Iraq Attaq supporter, so I wonder if she’s actually an iSteve reader.

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  147. Dan Hayes says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "Kushner’s father was convicted and jailed for the “usual” white collar crimes by Christie when he was New Jersey’s federal prosecutor. This didn’t endear Kushner to Christie. "

    Charles Kushner wasn't just convicted of the "usual" white collar crimes:

    Major Donor Admits Hiring Prostitute to Smear Witness

    "The biggest political donor in New Jersey pleaded guilty on Wednesday to trying to compromise a witness in a campaign finance investigation by setting him up with a prostitute and secretly videotaping the sexual encounter."

    Kushner (pere), formerly a major donor to the Democratic party, was also involved in the McGreevy affair, sponsoring a work visa for McGreevy's Israeli boy-toy. He sounds like a class-act all round.

    Interestingly, the Kushner Companies are the owners of 666 5th Avenue. Now it takes some guts to buy that property (or some connections, anyway).

    "While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter."

    It would be a shame if we narrowly avoided electing Lady MacBeth, only to have elected King Lear instead.

    Mr. Anon,

    You certainly and correctly expanded on my use of “usual.” This family expands the definition of white collar crime to a new dimension.

    Thank you for your expose of this family of political and business vipers.

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    I should hasten to add that I am not aware of anything shady or illegal that the son may have done; as far as I know he hasn't, and I didn't mean to impugn his character
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  148. OT – Financial Times

    “2 days before Japanese PM Abe meets Trump, his team has no idea who is advising Trump on Japan & China”

    https://www.ft.com/content/18a3c336-aacb-11e6-9cb3-bb8207902122

    Surely Eamon Fingleton of this parish needs to give Trump Tower a call? That would certainly make Japan and China think.

    http://www.unz.com/author/eamonn-fingleton/

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    Maybe a better question would be who is advising Abe on US issues, since he made a point of meeting with Hillary and not Trump the last time he was over here. Ooops.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/20/national/politics-diplomacy/abe-clinton-meet-ny-restate-split-tpp-stances-weigh-pyongyang-threat/#.WCtJchlMGBY
    , @Lagertha
    this is where I think Thiel will be so important: SV is full of entrepreneurs and interesting people who know a lot about China & Japan. I'm not worried at all. The festering Middle East and Turkey will be the big problems.
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  149. @candid_observer
    Yeah, one of the most interesting things to track in the aftermath of this election will be the fate of the media. It has become well and truly unhinged. Breitbart will certainly rise in importance. But it clearly needs to clean up its act so that it can be seen as a broad, reasonably balanced source of news, rather than as a purely partisan outlet. There's of course a place for such outlets, but there is much such a publication can't do that needs to be done. Fox News is perhaps a good model for a broader Breitbart, with, of course, necessary changes to reflect a Trumpian take on politics.

    Some of today's prominent media outlets must be awfully concerned as to their place in the new Trumpian world. The NY Times must wonder what its access and influence might be in a nation controlled at all political levels by Republicans, and by Trump at the top. And it can't stop itself from engaging in the most egregiously partisan behavior -- it's too deeply in the grip of its own dogmatic beliefs.

    Even a publication like People must wonder where it's going to go for the stupid things it does. No First Family would be better suited to be fodder for its high society porn, given the beauty and appeal of so many of the Trump family. But they went all-in on a vicious attack on Trump, with the frumpy reporter from People declaring that many years ago he forced his tongue down her throat -- while not of course in any way pursuing it at the time -- and the magazine declaring its full support of her. I'm sure when they published this attack, they all held it unthinkable he might ever win. I wonder how much regret they have now?

    Sure. How about denying WH press credentials to NYT, NPR, Wapo, NBC, MSNBC, etc? Their questions will be nothing other than have you stopped sodomizing four year olds today. Let them use the pool report.

    DJT is too much of a gentleman to do this, but I can dream.

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  150. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No, but a European American nation can be.

    I'm not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people's interests.

    When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don't forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment.

    Give European Americans who want to preserve their people and culture some place to go, some place that will protect them. If a guy gets fired for standing up for European Americans, get him a job. (For example, Jason Richwine would have immediately found a job in a think tank in my world.) You also let those European Americans who don't want to preserve their people and culture know that they aren't welcome. No violence, just exclusion.

    A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won't be that important. We'll have our nation that insulates us.

    One needs only look at the demographics of the children being born today to understand that the United States is finished as a middle-class, civic-minded country. Trump or no Trump, European Americans - my children - need to do what races throughout history have done: Look out for their own and push for as much self-determination as possible under the circumstances.

    Time to build a new European American nation.

    People here have to keep in mind that it is the Coalition of the Left fringe groups who make these demands, not liberals in general. But, to the Alt Right, it much easier for there narrative to make in-roads by neglecting to make this distinction.

    “I’m not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people’s interests.”

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.

    Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends.

    “When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don’t forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment.”

    You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality.

    “A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won’t be that important. We’ll have our nation that insulates us.”

    What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to “come around” your line of thinking?

    “Time to build a new European American nation.”

    You go, girlfriend!

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    "White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines,"

    They used to. And why do you think that some don't any more? Did they "evolve" as your types like to say? No. They've been punished for showing any racial solidarity.

    The minute that whites realize that they can show pride in being European and have some back-up, a great number will do so. Many won't. So what. That's their choice. However, if you think that in a world where European Americans are free to choose between joining their fellow whites or being shunned by them and thus being forced to spend their time with the Coalition of the Fringes that a very large majority of European Americans won't choose their own, you're crazy.

    For decades, liberal whites have been able to have their cake and eat it too. They can trash on their fellow Badwhites while still getting to work with them instead of blacks and browns, send their kids to school with Badwhite kids instead of blacks and browns, etc. End that deal, and you'll see many Goodwhite children choose our side.

    The vast majority of whites don't want to be excluded from other whites.

    "Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends."

    That's the idea. Granted, at the moment, it's just that, an idea. But it has a chance, and that possibility is terrifying to people like you because you know what life without pliable whites would like like. Liberia anyone.

    "You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality."

    Jews have lasted for thousands of years by rejecting your reality. The Amish also are doing quite well.

    There's no commandment that says whites need to fade away. It's up to us. God know blacks and Hispanics can't stop us if we decide to close ranks. You guys are just props in the Goodwhite-Badwhite civil war. Don't you know that?

    "What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to “come around” your line of thinking?"

    If even a third of European Americans over the course of the next couple of generations (this is a very long process) choose this path - and it likely will be more - that's 60 million people - about the size of France or Britain. I think that I can live with that.

    As to the other European Americans who choose not associate with us, what about them? They can do what they want. However, as they look at our neighborhoods, our schools, our baseball leagues, our business clubs, our community centers, etc, and compare those to the run-down, dangerous public counter-parts filled with people who neither look like them nor act like them, I suspect that they will quickly change their tune. If not, good for them. Enjoy the multi-culti world. It's just not my world.

    God didn't create the United States. God didn't create the current system in this country. Like everything else in history, this too shall pass. Indeed, no multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country has ever survived too long without one group being in charge. (Heck, you typically only need one of those three to destroy a country, so truly and utterly screwed.)

    "You go, girlfriend!"

    That's what they told Trump. Probably told Jews the same thing about a homeland a hundred years ago.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to start checking some things out and making some calls. Even if I fail, there will be others. Something has changed. And I for one am not going back.

    Good luck, Corvinus. And I mean that. Showing pride in your own people and choosing the live, work and play with them doesn't mean hating other peoples. I wish you well. I just don't want you in my world, so I will begin the long process of shutting you out. Maybe I'll fail, but at least I tried.

    But the one thing that I know is that the vast - yes, the vast - majority of whites, even a large portion of Goodwhites, don't want to be around blacks and Hispanics. They just don't. It's why they're punished so hard. If they ever get the chance to separate from you, they'll rejoice and move in droves.

    You know that's the truth, and all of your attempts at being clever, will never change that fact.
    , @backup

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.
     
    That mentality seems to be changing, doesn't it? We see in the US and Europe a colossal change of mind.
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  151. Lurker says:
    @ben tillman

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
     
    Some people consider Jefferson a leftist for his time, so I think your point needs further refinement.

    Leftists of today will happily sacrifice the leftists of yesterday. Permanent revolution!

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    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: "We want the world and we want it now!"
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  152. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, a Patriot takes protesting hipster’s flag away from him, as he was dragging it on the ground, hipster chases Patriot with taser. Hipster gets punched in the face. Patriot wins:

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    These protesters are so loathsome...so privileged, so narrow-minded. It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines. If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well! And, frankly, because they are well-traveled and smart, they are a lot more intelligent/wordly/respectful than these privileged hypocrites on the streets of the USA.
    , @Anon
    I say let them burn every US flag.

    After Obama, neo-imperialism, and homo 'marriage', I have no respect for the US flag.

    Decent white Americans need to create a new flag.

    Similarly, good decent folks need to create a new concept to define the union of real man and real woman. The word 'marriage' has been soiled and befouled beyond recognition.

    Ewwww.
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  153. okie says:
    @Foreign Expert
    Re: FDR.

    The Delanos arrived on the first boat after the Mayflower.

    No doubt about that and his side of the Roosevelts started marrying Anglos long before Teddy’s side, TR’s father was the first to marry outside the dutch, and remember FDR’s wife was Teddy’s Neice.
    That said, especially with the wealth coming from the dutch side being lucky enough to have real estate in NYC, the surname and marrying back into a less mixed side, I’m assuming something that reminds me of a lot of Indians i know in OK. Most tribes here have a blood quanta for membership, but it can be 1/32 or 1/64 or even less in a lot of them. The odd thing is there is a inverse relation between Indian ID and Actual blood. The full and half bloods are Americans and then Indians, the mostly whites are Indians then Americans. That said i don’t know intimate details about him, I’ve read a few bios of TR, but none of him.

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    The Delanos –as in FDR- were the source of FDR”S wealth. Made it running opium into China for the Brits and later, and more ethically, in the U.S. for Civil War medicine.
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  154. guest says:
    @syonredux

    Bellow is an interesting case, in that he didn’t know he was an illegal (I think) immigrant until later in life. But I think he’s talking out of his butt when he says the country took them over. His subculture is all over his books: Russian Jew-cum-Chicago Jew-cum-New York Jew. I dare say he was more rooted in foreign culture than your average deracinated child of illegal Mexicans today. He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake.
     
    His books clearly reveal his immigrant background, sure. But no one could mistake them for the work of a foreigner.

    He has whole conversations in French in his novels, for Pete’s sake
     
    So did Tolstoy.

    “no one could mistake them for the work of a foreigner”

    Of course not.

    “So did Tolstoy

    That’s kinda the point.

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  155. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor
    I think Giuliani deserves a spot. Rewarding your allies is how politics works. Bolton, on the other hand, does not. He didn't have enough pull going in to merit anything significant, even if he did support Trump.

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.
     
    What were all the first straws?

    While Rinse Pubis as CoS isn't what I'd call a good sign, it isn't what I'd call a bad sign, either. Trump's going to have to work with the GOP. With regard to Pubis as CoS, the question is, who will be driving whom? I see no evidence at all that it will be Rinse driving Trump, so I figure a wait and see attitude is best.

    Eh, I think having Preibus around is a good thing. The guy needs someone who knows how things work and has connections to the old regime. Otherwise he is really going to be lost with all these political novices.
     
    Right. As long as Trump is driving Pubis, it's should be a good thing. It depends on how uppity Pubis gets. He may balk at serving Trump's agenda. On the other hand, he should already have a pretty good idea of Trump's agenda going in, and he took the job anyway. But maybe his plan is to "civilize" Trump. But that's risky, because if he fails, he could wind up tainted. Maybe he's just signed on to Trump's agenda? We'll have to wait and see.

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
     
    Wasn't Thomas Jefferson, and weren't all of the Founders, leftist for their time?

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.
     
    Oy vey. That would be perfect. You know what might be even better? "Yes, I thought long and hard about removing MLK's bust from the Oval Office, because of his horrible treatment of and abuse to women, but then I decided to keep it there anyway." Then he could refer back to that throughout his presidency, when challenged to repudiate this or that. 1) Publicly reinforce MLK's horrible treatment of women a couple hundred times, and 2) use him as an excuse to refuse leftist demands.

    I’m sure that’s to keep the “clansmen” calm. Politico doesn’t know who has the last word with, it might be one of his sons, it might be Lewandowski or Bannon. It might be nobody.
     

    While there are some very good Trump appointees (Bannon, Kobach, Stephen Miller), these will most likely be outweighed by Kushner’s influence through DJT’s paternal affection for his daughter.
     
    Common sense suggests blood has a leg up, but also that married daughters get less influence, because their husbands tend to have more influence over them.

    If Trump has any sense, he’ll loan the MLK bust permanently to the Museum of African American History and Culture where tourists can look at it, and put Churchill back in his office. That way he doesn’t have to see MLK’s ugly mug, yet all the tourists will be thinking Trump’s honored blacks (because they got to see the MLK bust with their own eyes! SJW squeal!). That would solve the problem. Any future president who has funny ideas about putting MLK back in the White House will have to deal with the shrieks of outrage from SJWers about it being stolen from its proper place in a museum honoring blacks. In the long term, it can be quietly donated to the museum and forgotten about.

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  156. JerryC says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    OT - Financial Times


    "2 days before Japanese PM Abe meets Trump, his team has no idea who is advising Trump on Japan & China"

    https://www.ft.com/content/18a3c336-aacb-11e6-9cb3-bb8207902122

    Surely Eamon Fingleton of this parish needs to give Trump Tower a call? That would certainly make Japan and China think.

    http://www.unz.com/author/eamonn-fingleton/

    Maybe a better question would be who is advising Abe on US issues, since he made a point of meeting with Hillary and not Trump the last time he was over here. Ooops.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/20/national/politics-diplomacy/abe-clinton-meet-ny-restate-split-tpp-stances-weigh-pyongyang-threat/#.WCtJchlMGBY

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  157. @Gabriel M
    Well I'm glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer's having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it's time for the Occam's rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer's pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle "antigentilism" tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer's more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone's gotta earn a livin.

    Sailer’s pet obsessions

    Steve’s overarching “obsession”/contribution is Noticing many interesting, important things. If some detractors get hives because they would rather he avert his eyes when it comes to certain ‘every goddamn time’ patterns, that’s on them, not Steve or anyone else.

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  158. Lagertha says:
    @Bill B.
    OT:

    Just forced myself to read WaPo which criticises - ludicrously - Obama for smiling too much.

    I have no idea how Obama feels about the election but isn't it entirely possible he is happy Hillary lost?

    Aside from the bad blood between them her destruction also brings down Bill's reputation leaving Obama's legacy as relatively benign in liberal eyes.

    I notice in WaPo's snaps of 'grieving' White House staffers that hard core Obama (PoC) insiders like Rice and Jarrett do not look devastated at all.

    I thought the same thing, too. I feel like O is relieved she lost ( I mean, the progs chose him over her 8 years ago!) because Bill & she just went nuts collecting so much cash from unsavory monarchies and autocracies all over the Middle East; and getting the nefarious speech fees from Wall Street – it was creepy and tacky. So stunning how Hillary supporters were fine with that, and our 15-year-old wars & the national debt, btw. And, these dumb-ass, privileged (they need to check their multicultural privilege :)!, protesters burning flags and sh*t while US soldiers die overseas fighting for their pathetic freedom to ransack cities. The soldiers, of course, being the children of the Deplorables! No, when Bill trashed Obamacare just weeks before the election, I saw that as a sign that Hillary would try get awesome glory by recreating Hillarycare…I think that Obama was more worried about Hillary trashing his legacy, rather than Donald. The Clintons lost and I am very relieved. I can’t believe how much I’ve enjoyed all the cringe-worthy soul-searching by pundits and their ilk this past week. It’s a little harder to stomach the breathtaking hubris, hypocrisy, the ridiculous “call to arms” of my suburban, mostly female friends, calling everybody and their mother, racist. I’m exhausted, yawn. It’s time to avoid, avoid, avoid and clean my house of superfluous things.

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  159. Richard S says:

    These dickheads are still spewing their anti-American bile. The sheer objective stupidity of it is enough to find irritating, let alone the explicit Kulturkampf against “Western” Man. Thomas Jefferson wasn’t just a man of his time. He was a supreme example of the Enlightenment polymath. And these liars now want to censor the man who founded not only the Republic, but the very university which makes the mistake of paying them?

    I think not. The wheel of history is turning.

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    The ludicrous anti-Jefferson nonsense is brought to you but people who also believed that Hillary (Hillary!) was the most qualified Presidential candidate ever. How they could mention her in the same league as Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison and others is demoralizing but not surprising. If she wants a monument, put it in DC where she is jumping not just a shark but a whole national aquarium.
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  160. Lagertha says:
    @anon
    Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, a Patriot takes protesting hipster's flag away from him, as he was dragging it on the ground, hipster chases Patriot with taser. Hipster gets punched in the face. Patriot wins:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=022_1479069334

    These protesters are so loathsome…so privileged, so narrow-minded. It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines. If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well! And, frankly, because they are well-traveled and smart, they are a lot more intelligent/wordly/respectful than these privileged hypocrites on the streets of the USA.

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    "These protesters are so loathsome…so privileged, so narrow-minded."

    The same logic was applied to the colonists by the British. Why couldn't they just accept paying a tax to help out the mother country?

    It's not the protestors, it's the protestors who are violent. The ones who destroy property.

    "It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines."

    You really need to educate yourself.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/anti-donald-trump-protest-former-marine-alexander-mccoy-plans-nyc-rally-against-gop-2372840

    It is EXACTLY why soldiers died to enable those who you oppose politically to be able to show their displeasure with the current system.

    "If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well!"

    You mean you propagandized them well. No different than Soros or the Alt-Right.
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  161. @Gabriel M
    Well I'm glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer's having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it's time for the Occam's rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer's pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle "antigentilism" tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer's more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone's gotta earn a livin.

    We take the liberty around here of noticing things. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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  162. Signed by 469 faculty members and students…. I wonder if even one person refused to sign. Probably not; would have been on the news.

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  163. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    OT - Financial Times


    "2 days before Japanese PM Abe meets Trump, his team has no idea who is advising Trump on Japan & China"

    https://www.ft.com/content/18a3c336-aacb-11e6-9cb3-bb8207902122

    Surely Eamon Fingleton of this parish needs to give Trump Tower a call? That would certainly make Japan and China think.

    http://www.unz.com/author/eamonn-fingleton/

    this is where I think Thiel will be so important: SV is full of entrepreneurs and interesting people who know a lot about China & Japan. I’m not worried at all. The festering Middle East and Turkey will be the big problems.

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  164. @Wade

    University of Virginia President Teresa Sullivan is being asked to refrain from quoting Thomas Jefferson because of his racist beliefs, according to The Cavalier Daily.
     
    Why is there a concerted effort to delete from the history books all traces of America's origins and who stands to benefit from it? It's not rational. You can pick any great non-white leader in history, Gandhi certainly, probably even MLK, and find evidence for racism in their beliefs. In the case of MLK, if not racism, misogyny or worse (rape).

    All great people who accomplish something did something sinful or horrible. That's no reason to commit suicide.

    Who stands to benefit when the last vestiges of the USA belonging to the grand Christian European heritage are wiped out? I mean the fight is on and they are winning because when I typed that last statement I guiltily asked myself, "wait, does it make me a racist or white supremacist or something for typing that sentence?" I find that I have to remind myself quite often about the existence of Japan and China and other nations that are organized around the interests of a common people in order to continue to exist: My self doubt is then assuaged. Of course a commonality among people is a basic requirement for an organized nation state even to be justified, let alone succeed. This is obvious, right?

    Off topic but did anyone watch SNL's opening Requiem for Hillary the past Saturday? The SNL cast clearly took Tuesday's results hard. In a skit with a surprise appearance from Chris Rock the cast joked about how much they've been in a bubble and the people on the coasts know nothing about how people in the interior feel about politics. But this was long obvious to all of us. I guess there never was much hope in these east coast types ever having anticipated the fissures in American society that would be introduced by extremely rapidly changing demographics. They still thought that America would look past this huge divide to elect Hillary out of solidarity with Destiny, or the Right Side Of History, or something.

    Does the cast of SNL and others like them still not get that this over-arching desire to have the first black president, the first female president (even to the possible detriment of other societal issues caused by the affirmative action candidate. Hillary would've done permanent damage to the middle class's ability to stand up to the globalist oligarchs, for instance) is a fairly quaint feature of our culture? Since we are in the throes of dismantling all remaining vestiges of the privilege granted to this distinct European-American people by our forefathers and effectively advertising to the world "We are an equal opportunity immigration destination", we will ironically not much longer be able to grant "privilege" to any of our nation's prerogatives, whether they be progressive or conservative in nature, let alone those that are unique, quaint and basically unnecessary to our nation's survival like having a female president.

    I hope this is a wake up call for everyone. Hey, on the upside, SNL was finally funny again thanks to David Chapelle as their guest host:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0wQRsXLi4

    Good poast

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  165. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, a Patriot takes protesting hipster's flag away from him, as he was dragging it on the ground, hipster chases Patriot with taser. Hipster gets punched in the face. Patriot wins:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=022_1479069334

    I say let them burn every US flag.

    After Obama, neo-imperialism, and homo ‘marriage’, I have no respect for the US flag.

    Decent white Americans need to create a new flag.

    Similarly, good decent folks need to create a new concept to define the union of real man and real woman. The word ‘marriage’ has been soiled and befouled beyond recognition.

    Ewwww.

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  166. Gabriel M says:
    @Marcus
    Fact: Jews disproportionately benefited from slavery (though not to the extent NOI claims), then became the staunchest champions of "civil rights" less than a century later.
    https://twitter.com/peterbeinart/status/796372768145014785
    We should have a long memory too

    Whatever. If I took a Peter Beinhart article about the poor wee Palestinians and posted it in Taki’s mag, you’d think it was the best thing ever.

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    Never forget!
    https://twitter.com/sarahksilverman/status/796239458328723456
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  167. @Chrisnonymous
    Steve,
    Sorry you've been downgraded from a preeminent IQ journalist to a blogger. Life ain't fair.

    downgraded (…) to a blogger

    Steve is to blogging like Paul Bunyan is to logging. Except Steve is real. I hear tell that Big Steve recently approved 1,359 comments in one day while continuously posting a good number of articles and also finding time to enjoy a comic opera.

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  168. guest says:
    @Formerly CARealist
    You read more than one of his books? Eek. I read Mr. Sammler's Planet and it was totally disgusting and dispiriting.

    If he's critiquing "cultures" then I assume he's discouraged about downtown blacks or spoiled rich kids.

    It was a little disgusting, but what were the more disgusting moments? The scary negro cornering the old man, the baby boom daughters’ sexuality, etc. Those are proper things to be disgusted by.

    I like to think it’s healthy to be dispirited by 1970 America. Who was in charge? Bellow is what you might almost term a neoconservative, though maybe he doesn’t quite qualify. I don’t know. But he does a lot of self-criticism of his own tribe, both ethnic and ideological. The latter of which was former pinko midcentury liberalism. By the time of Sammler he definitely wasn’t that.

    The big flaw if that book, for me, is the Holocaust nostalgia, by which I’m utterly bored. But I probably wouldn’t be as bored had I been alive when it was written.

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  169. Jefferson says:
    @Romanian

    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.
     
    This made me lol. It really shows how you can internalize a shitty situation as being part of the ordinary landscape. Just like most of you have accepted that 1965 is a done deal and that you can't even go back to pre-2000 demographics. I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)

    ” I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)”

    I mention The San Gabriel Valley because it is one of the few places in the mainland lower 48 United States where Asians outnumber Whites.

    Asians make up only 5 percent of The U.S population, but in the suburbs of The San Gabriel Valley they range from 50 percent Asian to over 70 percent Asian.

    As a White person I remember experiencing culture shock first stepping foot in The San Gabriel Valley.

    The San Gabriel Valley sticks out like a sore thumb in a country that’s not very Asian demographics wise.

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  170. SPMoore8 says:

    OT – Any truth to these stories that HRC was in a drunken rage and tried to assault her advisers on election night? I mean, maybe it’s kind of cruel to bring it up, but, after all, HRC did try to base her campaign on “grab her by the p*ssy” and Alicia Machado ……

    http://www.infowars.com/report-hillary-became-physically-violent-after-she-realized-she-had-lost-the-election/

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    infowars isn't exactly what I'd call a reliable source.

    If we want alternative media, the first thing really necessary is a media outlet whose reports can be taken as well-vetted.

    From my point of view, if infowars reports something in isolation, it means almost nothing until it is backed up by another source.

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  171. Lagertha says:
    @candid_observer
    Yeah, one of the most interesting things to track in the aftermath of this election will be the fate of the media. It has become well and truly unhinged. Breitbart will certainly rise in importance. But it clearly needs to clean up its act so that it can be seen as a broad, reasonably balanced source of news, rather than as a purely partisan outlet. There's of course a place for such outlets, but there is much such a publication can't do that needs to be done. Fox News is perhaps a good model for a broader Breitbart, with, of course, necessary changes to reflect a Trumpian take on politics.

    Some of today's prominent media outlets must be awfully concerned as to their place in the new Trumpian world. The NY Times must wonder what its access and influence might be in a nation controlled at all political levels by Republicans, and by Trump at the top. And it can't stop itself from engaging in the most egregiously partisan behavior -- it's too deeply in the grip of its own dogmatic beliefs.

    Even a publication like People must wonder where it's going to go for the stupid things it does. No First Family would be better suited to be fodder for its high society porn, given the beauty and appeal of so many of the Trump family. But they went all-in on a vicious attack on Trump, with the frumpy reporter from People declaring that many years ago he forced his tongue down her throat -- while not of course in any way pursuing it at the time -- and the magazine declaring its full support of her. I'm sure when they published this attack, they all held it unthinkable he might ever win. I wonder how much regret they have now?

    saw People Magazine post election with photos and all, of the Trump family. I recall a condescending tone a few times, but obviously, People is now caught in a vice. It is still staggering to me that NYT and all the networks that disparaged him constantly, never saw the Mac truck hitting them. I predicted last winter, even earlier, that he would win because the Coastal Elites forgot (Hillary ignored) that they are detached and unaware of what life is like for “Everyday” Americans. With the heroin deaths of depressed young people up sky-high, they were clueless how that is connected to the despair in the factory ghost towns across New England to the Rustbelt and Plains. I hope they feel ashamed because they didn’t give a sh*t about half the American people, and they lost; looked like fools sputtering, mouths agape. They still don’t “get it” since they are claiming it is due to the racism of all Trump supporters. First they tried condescension and detachment, and lost; now they are opting for racism & bigotry. They didn’t learn anything – you can’t randomly call people racist if you have no facts about their behavior, maligning people won’t give you the results you want. And, all the brilliant tech entrepreneurs or corporate types who may read here: wouldn’t it have been smarter to open up satellite SV plants and tech hubs in the Rust Belt, at least near the college towns, for the last 15 years? California: The Rent Is Too Damn High for young people.

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  172. Corvinus says:
    @Lagertha
    These protesters are so loathsome...so privileged, so narrow-minded. It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines. If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well! And, frankly, because they are well-traveled and smart, they are a lot more intelligent/wordly/respectful than these privileged hypocrites on the streets of the USA.

    “These protesters are so loathsome…so privileged, so narrow-minded.”

    The same logic was applied to the colonists by the British. Why couldn’t they just accept paying a tax to help out the mother country?

    It’s not the protestors, it’s the protestors who are violent. The ones who destroy property.

    “It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines.”

    You really need to educate yourself.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/anti-donald-trump-protest-former-marine-alexander-mccoy-plans-nyc-rally-against-gop-2372840

    It is EXACTLY why soldiers died to enable those who you oppose politically to be able to show their displeasure with the current system.

    “If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well!”

    You mean you propagandized them well. No different than Soros or the Alt-Right.

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    you always insist on taking everything out of context, and proceed to lecture anyone about history that is either wrong, irrelevant, disjointed, or just plain goofy whenever someone says something off the top of their head. You never listen (read & think before responding) to what people are actually saying; probably, because, as I said in the past to you: you believe in nothing, just antagonizing people to approve your point of view. Always trying to convince people you've got it right; it's so naive, and kinda' sad. I find you too bi-polar, and probably not as worldly as me - I can tell. So, your senseless chirping at strangers like me, and others, on Steve's site is really, boring. Your last line, says it all. Out of courtesy, I replied...but no more after this.
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  174. Jefferson says:
    @Anon
    "Scots-Irish are Anglo."

    When we say Wasp, we really mean East Coast Brahmin types, not the moon-shine swilling fellers who hunt possum and name their kids bubba and lyle.
    How many Boston Brahmin families named their kid 'bubba' or spoke a funny kind of dialect?

    Scotch-Irish types were neanderthal version of the Anglo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgOACJpZg0

    "German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony."

    I think Germans would have assimilated even if there was no WWI factor. And in fact, most had.

    Besides, in demeanor and habits, Germans were more waspy than the Scotch-Irish were.

    It's the Scotch-Irish that were acting like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3C6n3nGXP8

    The main German threat was not ethnic but ideological as good number of them were socialists.

    Perhaps it was the crushing of the Left that had the real long-term effect on controlling German political power.

    "Rather more than that. The pre-60′s WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs."

    In a way, that was the problem. As there was a white-bread element in Wasp culture, it pressured non-Anglos to lose their sense of roots and become 'bland'. Blandness, like a vacuum, calls out to be filled.

    So, as white ethnics became more Anglo-ized, they were more vulnerable to fads and fashions since they lost their roots. So, Anglo-ization hastened Liberalism.

    Look at Ortho Jews who cling to culture. More likely to be conservative.
    But waspized Jews became more Liberal.

    In a way, the pressure to Anglo-ize is still present. It's just that wasp power, in fusion with Jewish power, is less about Anglo-ness than about PC-ness, MLK-ness, and homo-ness that are the new religion of America.

    America today applies just as much assimilationist pressures as in the past. It's just that today's Anglos are more eager for newcomers to worship Harvey Milk than George Washington.
    These PC Anglos do NOT want newcomers to cling to their original culture as such conservatism goes against PC.

    PC multi-cultism has NO TOLERANCE for newcomers who say "I reject 'gay marriage' as an affront to my cultural values."

    Multi-cultism only tolerates and celebrates superficial stuff like food and costumes. It has no interest in the actual moral and intellectual underpinnings of other cultures.

    Anglo has gone homo and pressures all groups to ass-imilate to homo-worship.

    “PC multi-cultism has NO TOLERANCE for newcomers who say “I reject ‘gay marriage’ as an affront to my cultural values.”

    I don’the see the Left shaming Muslims for not accepting Gay marriage and World War T. You don’t see Lena Dunham, Miley Cyrus, Whoopi Goldberg, Amy Schumer, Chelsea Handler, Cher, Samantha Bee, etc bashing Muslim countries for stoning Gays.

    The Left’s hatred of White Christians trumps their concern for the civil rights of the LGBTQueen community.

    If the civil rights of the LGBTQ community was their top concern, they would not advocate for mass Muslim immigration into liberal Gay friendly White Western nations.

    The Democratic Party is about to elect a Muslim to be the chairman of their party, less than 1 year after the Orlando Gay nightclub massacre which was committed by a Muslim.

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  175. eah says:
    @Marcus
    Fact: Jews disproportionately benefited from slavery (though not to the extent NOI claims), then became the staunchest champions of "civil rights" less than a century later.
    https://twitter.com/peterbeinart/status/796372768145014785
    We should have a long memory too

    Because we remember.

    What do they remember?

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  176. Anon says: • Disclaimer
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    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. I
     
    Scots-Irish are Anglo.

    German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.
     
    Rather more than that. The pre-60's WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.

    America is now the worst of all possible worlds when it comes to culture.

    New arrivals lose their culture and gain nothing.

    When America had a compelling and powerful narrative about the discoverers, founders, settlers, and builders, the newcomers might lose their ancestral culture and take on something meaningfully and proudly American. Even if not Anglo, they could take some of that Anglo spirit. It’s like there was a time when even non-Romans felt special to be part of Roman civilization and Roman laws.

    But once the Plymouth Rock narrative got subverted and vilified by Ellis Island and Selma narrative, much of American History is about shame than achievement and pride.

    So, newcomers not only lose their original culture(which holds cultural and historical meaning) but take on an American Culture that is all about virtue-signaling whites taking a big crap on their own ancestors, history, and culture. It’s utterly meaningless. What is there to be learned from whites who say ‘we suck’?

    Now, the problem is not the Ellis Island and Selma narratives in and of themselves. They too are compelling narratives. The problem is how those narratives came to supplant the Plymouth Rock narrative instead of continuing it.

    Ellis Island was possible because of the earlier narrative of discovery and development. And Selma narrative was possible because America was founded on certain principles that found its full fruition for blacks in the Civil Rights movement.
    After all, even MLK got his ideas from white tradition, not black African tradition that is all about chucking spears at hippos and running like a mofo when a beast you missed ran after you. And there no concept of liberty and human rights in Africa.

    So, MLK should be seen as redemptive son of Founding Fathers. White America made promises but didn’t fulfill them but it happened with Civil Rights. Blacks were denied the promise for too long, but still, Civil Rights was possible because the seeds of that promise had been planted on American soil. If US had been settled by any other people, there wouldn’t have been the ideal of liberty and equality under the law.

    But instead of MLK being seen as son who redeemed the ideals of the Founders, he is called the new Founding Father by Time mag. As for Jefferson, let’s just denounce him as a ‘slave owner’. But did blacks found or lay down the ideals of America? No, in their civil rights movement, they only furthered what had been founded by others. Black leaders built on and repaired the work of the whites who had laid down the foundations.

    There could have been continuance from Plymouth to 1776 to Gettysburg to Ellis Island to Selma and beyond, but instead we got an ideological coup that said FU to all the narrative prior to Ellis Island.

    This America is totally amnesiac, contemptuous of its own heritage, and stupid.
    Worse, the rise of Pop Culture and celebrity vanity as main obsession of Americans has turned America Culture into a mania not only about the PC Current Year but the insipid Current Queer of one of umpteenth gender identity.

    So, what do new arrivals get from this America? They lose their own identity and take on fantasy culture of Hollywood and hateful vitriol of anti-history as Americanism.

    I think maybe hyphenization of Americanism would have been better for everyone had it caught on earlier. Maybe Anglos went too far in Anglo-Americanizing the newcomers.
    Before the rise of PC, most cultural identities were conservative. So, a hyphenized American was bound to be more conservative due to ties to old world. Also, US is essentially an extension of Europe. It is not a new civilization. So, if an average American spoke English and learned about George Washington but was also encouraged to maintain a sense of his ancestral ties, he might actually have been more conservative.
    Indeed, the reason why Catholics resisted social change more effectively than protestants did was because they had a connection to Vatican and tradition. That served to counter-balance the influence of US pop culture and fashion-fad-politics.

    I think of a Lithuanian-American guy I knew in college. He was all-American patriot and all that. But he had profound knowledge of Lithuanian history, culture, and etc. He even spoke the language perfectly. This made him more conservative, not less. He appreciated the idea of roots and heritage.
    In contrast, I see some totally Americanized Polish-Americans, and by golly… their only obsession is the Current Year and the Current Queer.

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  177. @Corvinus
    People here have to keep in mind that it is the Coalition of the Left fringe groups who make these demands, not liberals in general. But, to the Alt Right, it much easier for there narrative to make in-roads by neglecting to make this distinction.

    "I’m not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people’s interests."

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.

    Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends.

    "When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don’t forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment."

    You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality.

    "A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won’t be that important. We’ll have our nation that insulates us."

    What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to "come around" your line of thinking?

    "Time to build a new European American nation."

    You go, girlfriend!

    “White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines,”

    They used to. And why do you think that some don’t any more? Did they “evolve” as your types like to say? No. They’ve been punished for showing any racial solidarity.

    The minute that whites realize that they can show pride in being European and have some back-up, a great number will do so. Many won’t. So what. That’s their choice. However, if you think that in a world where European Americans are free to choose between joining their fellow whites or being shunned by them and thus being forced to spend their time with the Coalition of the Fringes that a very large majority of European Americans won’t choose their own, you’re crazy.

    For decades, liberal whites have been able to have their cake and eat it too. They can trash on their fellow Badwhites while still getting to work with them instead of blacks and browns, send their kids to school with Badwhite kids instead of blacks and browns, etc. End that deal, and you’ll see many Goodwhite children choose our side.

    The vast majority of whites don’t want to be excluded from other whites.

    “Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends.”

    That’s the idea. Granted, at the moment, it’s just that, an idea. But it has a chance, and that possibility is terrifying to people like you because you know what life without pliable whites would like like. Liberia anyone.

    “You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality.”

    Jews have lasted for thousands of years by rejecting your reality. The Amish also are doing quite well.

    There’s no commandment that says whites need to fade away. It’s up to us. God know blacks and Hispanics can’t stop us if we decide to close ranks. You guys are just props in the Goodwhite-Badwhite civil war. Don’t you know that?

    “What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to “come around” your line of thinking?”

    If even a third of European Americans over the course of the next couple of generations (this is a very long process) choose this path – and it likely will be more – that’s 60 million people – about the size of France or Britain. I think that I can live with that.

    As to the other European Americans who choose not associate with us, what about them? They can do what they want. However, as they look at our neighborhoods, our schools, our baseball leagues, our business clubs, our community centers, etc, and compare those to the run-down, dangerous public counter-parts filled with people who neither look like them nor act like them, I suspect that they will quickly change their tune. If not, good for them. Enjoy the multi-culti world. It’s just not my world.

    God didn’t create the United States. God didn’t create the current system in this country. Like everything else in history, this too shall pass. Indeed, no multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country has ever survived too long without one group being in charge. (Heck, you typically only need one of those three to destroy a country, so truly and utterly screwed.)

    “You go, girlfriend!”

    That’s what they told Trump. Probably told Jews the same thing about a homeland a hundred years ago.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to start checking some things out and making some calls. Even if I fail, there will be others. Something has changed. And I for one am not going back.

    Good luck, Corvinus. And I mean that. Showing pride in your own people and choosing the live, work and play with them doesn’t mean hating other peoples. I wish you well. I just don’t want you in my world, so I will begin the long process of shutting you out. Maybe I’ll fail, but at least I tried.

    But the one thing that I know is that the vast – yes, the vast – majority of whites, even a large portion of Goodwhites, don’t want to be around blacks and Hispanics. They just don’t. It’s why they’re punished so hard. If they ever get the chance to separate from you, they’ll rejoice and move in droves.

    You know that’s the truth, and all of your attempts at being clever, will never change that fact.

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    "They used to. And why do you think that some don’t any more? Did they “evolve” as your types like to say? No. They’ve been punished for showing any racial solidarity."

    No, whites historically thought of themselves as being part of a European ethnic group. The Age of Imperialism (late 1800's) put into play this white vs. non-white meme.

    "The minute that whites realize that they can show pride in being European and have some back-up, a great number will do so. Many won’t. So what."

    Whites in America are mutts. They refer to themselves as Americans, not white Europeans. They are still mindful, however, of their heritage.

    "That’s their choice. However, if you think that in a world where European Americans are free to choose between joining their fellow whites or being shunned by them and thus being forced to spend their time with the Coalition of the Fringes that a very large majority of European Americans won’t choose their own, you’re crazy."

    You are assuming that whites will inevitably shun their fellow whites for not joining up with them against nonwhites.

    "For decades, liberal whites have been able to have their cake and eat it too. They can trash on their fellow Badwhites while still getting to work with them instead of blacks and browns, send their kids to school with Badwhite kids instead of blacks and browns, etc. End that deal, and you’ll see many Goodwhite children choose our side."

    How do you even define "badwhites and goodwhites"? Are you not saying that race is a social construct when insisting these groups exist?

    "The vast majority of whites don’t want to be excluded from other whites."

    Prove it. Give me hard core evidence of this phenomenon or retract.

    "That’s the idea. Granted, at the moment, it’s just that, an idea. But it has a chance, and that possibility is terrifying to people like you because you know what life without pliable whites would like like. Liberia anyone."

    Again, you assume that whites are going to be in lockstep with your idea. It hasn't been that way. Look at slavery. Badwhites overtook Goodwhites on this issue.

    "Jews have lasted for thousands of years by rejecting your reality. The Amish also are doing quite well."

    Exceptions to the rule. Unique circumstances.

    "God know blacks and Hispanics can’t stop us if we decide to close ranks."

    God promotes good will among all men. Race is not one's uniform in His eyes. Don't you know that?

    "You guys are just props in the Goodwhite-Badwhite civil war. Don’t you know that?"

    There is no civil war between whites. It is conjured up by the Alt Right.

    "If even a third of European Americans over the course of the next couple of generations (this is a very long process) choose this path – and it likely will be more – that’s 60 million people – about the size of France or Britain. I think that I can live with that."

    It is not likely. It may or may not happen. You are being overly dramatic.

    "As to the other European Americans who choose not associate with us, what about them? They can do what they want. However, as they look at our neighborhoods, our schools, our baseball leagues, our business clubs, our community centers, etc, and compare those to the run-down, dangerous public counter-parts filled with people who neither look like them nor act like them, I suspect that they will quickly change their tune. If not, good for them. Enjoy the multi-culti world. It’s just not my world."

    Those neighborhoods, schools, baseball leagues, business clubs, ec. are ALL of ours, i.e. the citizens of America.

    "God didn’t create the United States. God didn’t create the current system in this country."

    But God commanded that his followers adhere to his creation. Are you an adherent to Christ?

    "But the one thing that I know is that the vast – yes, the vast – majority of whites, even a large portion of Goodwhites, don’t want to be around blacks and Hispanics. They just don’t. It’s why they’re punished so hard. If they ever get the chance to separate from you, they’ll rejoice and move in droves."

    No, a minority of whites feel that way. If that be the case, the Civil Rights Movement would have never occurred, with professional sports and the corporate world today reflecting your distorted worldview.

    "You know that’s the truth, and all of your attempts at being clever, will never change that fact."

    It's YOUR truth, not the actual truth.
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  178. Flip says:
    @Jefferson
    "Isn’t FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?"

    "WASP" has broaden to include any Northern European who is not Irish Catholic. An Irish Protestant can be a "WASP".

    My father was 100% German and he said that he was a “WASP” due to the Angles and Saxons originally coming from Angeln and Saxony in Germany.

    Andrew Mellon, Andrew Jackson, and Woodrow Wilson were of Scotch-Irish Protestant descent. I’d consider them WASPs.

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    Andy Jackson definitely wasn't a WASP. That's why the WASPs called him King Mob.
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  179. @SPMoore8
    OT - Any truth to these stories that HRC was in a drunken rage and tried to assault her advisers on election night? I mean, maybe it's kind of cruel to bring it up, but, after all, HRC did try to base her campaign on "grab her by the p*ssy" and Alicia Machado ......

    http://www.infowars.com/report-hillary-became-physically-violent-after-she-realized-she-had-lost-the-election/

    infowars isn’t exactly what I’d call a reliable source.

    If we want alternative media, the first thing really necessary is a media outlet whose reports can be taken as well-vetted.

    From my point of view, if infowars reports something in isolation, it means almost nothing until it is backed up by another source.

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    Thanks. It appears to be tied to Twitter.

    This may turn out like the Nixon-Kissinger Lincoln Bedroom prayer session, a famous tableau that may or may not be entirely accurate but which encapsulates a lot of super-truth.

    The image of a drunken presidential candidate, shattering everything in sight, until she sees herself in a broken mirror .... such drama!
    , @EriK
    Wasn't the original source the American Spectator?

    I'm still skeptical.
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  180. @Kyle
    Isn't FDR dutch or something. Is that considered Wasp?

    Yes it is, at least if you are talking about the Roosevelts and the other old Dutch families of New York and New Jersey. “Anglo-Saxon” is the least accurate part of “WASP”. White is obvious, and Protestant is too. But “Anglo-Saxon” was just an essential way of coming up with a clever acronym – I am sure that E Digby Baltzell would have laughed at the idea that he had meant the term to exclude the Roosevelts, or the Zantzingers, or even the Madeiras, a long converted once Jewish family of the Philadelphia Main Line
    Whom it didn’t mean was defined by successive waves of immigration: first, no Irish; then, no Italians; finally, no Jews.

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    Agreed. I think the Delanos were originally Huguenot anyway. I know from my own research that Dutch, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French Huguenots were all intermarrying from the earliest days of New Amsterdam, and there were even some old Polish families in New Jersey from way back who intermarried with them.
    , @Jack D
    Not to mention that the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic (as were the Dutch). Anglo Saxon says too little and too much. I suppose it is meant to exclude the Scots-Irish mountain folk, who are white and Protestant but not WASP but on the other hand the Welsh and Scotch qualify as WASP without having any Saxon blood. Maybe WASP, like race itself, is a "social construct" - you know a WASP when you see him (by his whale pants). Or perhaps Baltzell's alternative name , the "Protestant Establishment" should give you a clue - there are plenty of people who are white AND Anglo AND Protestant but still not WASP. But PE doesn't have the same ring.

    It was Baltzell's thesis, BTW, that Philadelphia WASPs (of which he was one) had never really carried their weight intellectually (in contrast to Boston) and that WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless - SOMEONE has got to be the alpha. I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America - once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose. Putin talks about this in Russia - in his view the biggest sin a leader can commit is to drop the reins of power because that's when chaos breaks out and millions suffer.
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  181. dr kill says:
    @Olorin

    Jefferson’s design for UVA with buildings around a grassy quad has remained immensely influential in campus design.
     
    I always suspected quads were racist, since that's where the Blonde Students go on sunny days to Appropriate Melanin.

    I’ve seen that quad. It indeed reeks of white privilege. I’m thinking a nice, littered strip mall with a Popeye’s, a same-day paycheck loan/pawn shop, a dollar store, an abortion mill, a methadone clinic, a drive-thru liquors, and a cute bodega where they sell saint candles with the goats, rabbits and chickens for ritual Santaria sacrifice would be a welcoming change. Make everyone feel at home. Screw the dead white guys who aimed to leave a better country for their fellows. Who did they think they were?

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  182. SPMoore8 says:
    @candid_observer
    infowars isn't exactly what I'd call a reliable source.

    If we want alternative media, the first thing really necessary is a media outlet whose reports can be taken as well-vetted.

    From my point of view, if infowars reports something in isolation, it means almost nothing until it is backed up by another source.

    Thanks. It appears to be tied to Twitter.

    This may turn out like the Nixon-Kissinger Lincoln Bedroom prayer session, a famous tableau that may or may not be entirely accurate but which encapsulates a lot of super-truth.

    The image of a drunken presidential candidate, shattering everything in sight, until she sees herself in a broken mirror …. such drama!

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  183. SPMoore8 says:
    @Old Palo Altan
    Yes it is, at least if you are talking about the Roosevelts and the other old Dutch families of New York and New Jersey. "Anglo-Saxon" is the least accurate part of "WASP". White is obvious, and Protestant is too. But "Anglo-Saxon" was just an essential way of coming up with a clever acronym - I am sure that E Digby Baltzell would have laughed at the idea that he had meant the term to exclude the Roosevelts, or the Zantzingers, or even the Madeiras, a long converted once Jewish family of the Philadelphia Main Line
    Whom it didn't mean was defined by successive waves of immigration: first, no Irish; then, no Italians; finally, no Jews.

    Agreed. I think the Delanos were originally Huguenot anyway. I know from my own research that Dutch, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French Huguenots were all intermarrying from the earliest days of New Amsterdam, and there were even some old Polish families in New Jersey from way back who intermarried with them.

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    That's right: Zabriskie is perhaps the best known of them.
    , @Foreign Expert
    The Huguenots mixed with the Puritans from the beginning. The Mayos were probably another Huguenot family (not Irish) that mixed in very early.
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  184. @syonredux

    July 14, 2011 — One of the University of Virginia's earliest students has remained one of its most famous. Efforts are being made to keep his memory alive.

    Renovations on the West Range rooms this summer include some sprucing up of No. 13, purported to have been slept in by Edgar Allan Poe.

    The Raven Society maintains No. 13 as a shrine to Poe, a student at U.Va. from February to December 1826. A glass door allows visitors to see it furnished as a student room would have been in the early 19th century, and they can press a button to hear a recording about Poe's time at U.Va. The furniture, which was provided by the Raven Society, is authentic to the period, but does not have any direct connection to Poe.
     
    https://news.virginia.edu/content/university-virginia-spirit-poe-resides-evermore

    While at U-VA I dated a woman that lived on West Range, two doors down from Poe’s old room. It helped my sex life nicely, as drunks would come by Poe’s room most every night and pound on the door, try to summons his ghost, yell random gibberish, whatever. Consequently she wanted to spend the night at my apartment a lot.

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  185. @candid_observer
    The irony of Beinart's tweet couldn't be more obvious.

    Beinart wants to signal to the world that Jews are emphatically not on the side of other whites. But, then, how is it in any way surprising if those whites see Jews as a group to be a force arrayed against their interests, and deeply resent them?

    If one wants to communicate that Jews shouldn't be treated as opponents of other whites, that such a belief is a "canard", the last thing one would want to do would be to suggest that Jews are united as a group against the interests of other whites.

    But here we have Beinart doing just that.

    Beinart, you say? As far as I’m concerned, Peter Beinart is a subtitle hero for giving Trump his slogan “Make American Great Again”; see

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/741347.The_Good_Fight

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  186. anonguy says:
    @IHTG
    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.

    You guys need to take Steve’s advice and start noticing things.

    If you had, you’d have noticed that this stuff is already on the run. It is going to take a while to purge the witch hunt hysteria, incidences of it have to happen for it to be purged, that is how trends end.

    Stop noticing this stuff. Start noticing where this sort of PC nonsense is getting shouted down by people on that side of the political spectrum, acknowledging the huge mistake all this mob action stuff is.

    It is all over the place now and the election is only a week past.

    Again, look back through my comments, I’ve prognosticated that SJW terrorism, and internet mob actions in general, will fall into disrepute after the Trump victory.

    It is happening in front of your eyes if you would only open them.

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  188. Njguy73 says:
    @Thea
    He is really right.

    We, the little people, have to resist this as a group or we will be in the same mess forever.

    I don't have any strategies but am very open to ideas of how to counter this in public schools & universities. Every single admin and public school teacher must tow the SJW line.

    Homeschooling and online college.

    Thank you and good night.

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    Nope, that is a retreat. These are our public spaces our ancestors established for us to defend.
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  189. Barnard says:

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    He said Carson would remain a close adviser of Trump and a friend. “His life has not prepared him to be a Cabinet secretary,” Williams said.

    Isn’t this essentially an admission Carson was never serious about becoming President in the first place? Most people thought he was running for the opportunity to become a Cabinet secretary in the winner’s Cabinet. Critics who claimed Carson was running solely to sell books and live high on the hog off campaign donations appear to have been right.

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  190. @Lurker
    Leftists of today will happily sacrifice the leftists of yesterday. Permanent revolution!

    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: “We want the world and we want it now!”

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    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: “We want the world and we want it now!”

     

    Interesting comment, but I disagree, mostly. Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution. This anticipated reclaiming of an Edenic paradise is a cornerstone of Marxism, both the original and now the cultural versions, and it's a heresy that is parasitic on Christian eschatology.

    The problem is, in the Christian narrative God makes covenants with real people, i.e. first the Jews, and then the Church, who work out His will in gratitude and obedience to Him. In the Leftist heresy, there's no God, so there's no covenant; instead, it's blind historical forces -- e.g. Obama's grotesquely vapid 'the arc of history' -- that somehow will 'bend' toward the inevitable utopia (you can hear echos of Darwin's theory and its tacit teleology here as well).

    So when an impersonal but irresistible force is driving history, there's not much need for individuals to worry about their ancestors or their progeny. That's for the Neanderthals who still believe in the covenant.

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  191. Satire is a more common art form in societies such as Monarchies and Dictatorships where more direct confrontation is ruthlessly crushed. Perhaps we are now at that stage regarding the media, Universities, and corporate employers where they have become so powerful that constructive criticism no longer matters. This is one reason Milo is so devastating. It immediately gets past the normal filters and goes straight into the blood stream. It seems to work better on liberals too for some reason.

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  192. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    “We would like for our administration to understand that although some members of this community may have come to this university because of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy, others of us came here in spite of it..."

    Gee, uh...thanks?

    Ghost, Wouldn’t the more pointed response be for those faculty members and students who detest Jefferson’s legacy be for them to leave their jobs or course of studies?

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  193. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile the idiotic war on all things American by leftists while claiming they should be trusted with ruling America continued today with Brown University spoiled whiners destroying American flags around campus meant to honor Veterans.

    Anonymous, That is deplorable or despicable, oh, wait, that describes us.

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  195. Jack D says:
    @Old Palo Altan
    Yes it is, at least if you are talking about the Roosevelts and the other old Dutch families of New York and New Jersey. "Anglo-Saxon" is the least accurate part of "WASP". White is obvious, and Protestant is too. But "Anglo-Saxon" was just an essential way of coming up with a clever acronym - I am sure that E Digby Baltzell would have laughed at the idea that he had meant the term to exclude the Roosevelts, or the Zantzingers, or even the Madeiras, a long converted once Jewish family of the Philadelphia Main Line
    Whom it didn't mean was defined by successive waves of immigration: first, no Irish; then, no Italians; finally, no Jews.

    Not to mention that the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic (as were the Dutch). Anglo Saxon says too little and too much. I suppose it is meant to exclude the Scots-Irish mountain folk, who are white and Protestant but not WASP but on the other hand the Welsh and Scotch qualify as WASP without having any Saxon blood. Maybe WASP, like race itself, is a “social construct” – you know a WASP when you see him (by his whale pants). Or perhaps Baltzell’s alternative name , the “Protestant Establishment” should give you a clue – there are plenty of people who are white AND Anglo AND Protestant but still not WASP. But PE doesn’t have the same ring.

    It was Baltzell’s thesis, BTW, that Philadelphia WASPs (of which he was one) had never really carried their weight intellectually (in contrast to Boston) and that WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless – SOMEONE has got to be the alpha. I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America – once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose. Putin talks about this in Russia – in his view the biggest sin a leader can commit is to drop the reins of power because that’s when chaos breaks out and millions suffer.

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    There are two aspects of "WASP," I think. They go together but aren't coterminal. One has to do with the ruling class; the other with the founding stock. There were more than just Anglos present at the founding, obviously. There have been also been more than just Anglos running the country.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Good analysis.

    One of the other ironies of the term 'WASP' is that the WASPiest WASPs of all should be upper class Brits -- who, even to this day, can still often be linked to their Norman forebears, who weren't even precisely Anglo-Saxon themselves . . . .
    , @bored identity



    "...WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless – SOMEONE has got to be the alpha.

    I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America – once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose."

     

    So, Tzadk, who's alpha dogging, wagging the tail, or doing whatever you call it, to this country for the last 40 years?

    I mean somebody had to do all that leadership that WASP wouldn't, right?
    Otherwise, the strawberry fields would continue to rot forever and ever in this country.

    Who, whom,who, whom,who, whom???

    Also, be so kind and, before you start flinging pellet poopsicles from ADL arsenal, go find out what Ron Unz says about the merit of meritocracy in modern day America.
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  196. Jack D says:
    @Anon
    Part of the problem is that today's leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some '60s protest, and they had kids in the early '70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the '90s. Today's college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what's going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I'd diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They're escalating their behaviors because they don't feel 'real' or validated as people unless they're getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn't want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who'd want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They're protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens' bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

    Given the ages at which the college educated in the US bear children (if any) I don’t think many of the ’60s radicals have college age grandchildren quite yet but do keep in mind that a lot of ’60s leftists were red diaper babies so there is multi-generational leftism anyway.

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  197. melendwyr says: • Website
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No, but a European American nation can be.

    I'm not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people's interests.

    When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don't forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment.

    Give European Americans who want to preserve their people and culture some place to go, some place that will protect them. If a guy gets fired for standing up for European Americans, get him a job. (For example, Jason Richwine would have immediately found a job in a think tank in my world.) You also let those European Americans who don't want to preserve their people and culture know that they aren't welcome. No violence, just exclusion.

    A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won't be that important. We'll have our nation that insulates us.

    One needs only look at the demographics of the children being born today to understand that the United States is finished as a middle-class, civic-minded country. Trump or no Trump, European Americans - my children - need to do what races throughout history have done: Look out for their own and push for as much self-determination as possible under the circumstances.

    Time to build a new European American nation.

    Culturally most ‘white people’ AREN’T my people. Our shared ethnicity is far less important than our worldviews and beliefs about reality – which render them more alien to me than a Grey would be.

    Ethnicity is important, but it’s not paramount.

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    Then DON'T join up with us. That's fine. But I would like to see is that people like yourself are forced to make a choice. You want to blend in the global mass, have a ball, but you won't joining our groups. You won't be living in our neighborhoods. We will look to promote our own, just as you and your multi-culti crowd can feel free to promote your own.

    I suspect that if a large portion of European Americans start to withdraw, your types would feel it. But, hey, don't worry, even if this come to pass, it wouldn't be for a generation or two. You'll be able to have your cake and eat it too. But your kids and grandkids won't.

    Btw, regarding "Ethnicity is important, but it’s not paramount," history says that you're wrong. Ethnicity does, in fact, trump ideology.

    "In multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion." Lee Kwan Yew.

    Whites have been on top for so long that we've forgotten that lesson. Either we relearn it, or we perish.
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  198. Jack D says:
    @Abe

    And, worse, far, far, worse, FDR was the Redliner-in-Chief!
     
    Actually worse: he was the Cultural Genocider-in-Chief! Reader franktremb laid what I consider one of the biggest historical bombshells I've ever read here in this except of a letter from FDR to the Prime Minister of Canada on the so-called French Canadian Problem:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/democratic-norway-v-authoritarian-sweden/#comment-702514

    All of this leads me to wonder whether, by some sort of planning, Canada and the United States, working toward the same end, cannot do some planning – perhaps unwritten planning which would not even be a public policy – by which we can hasten the objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic...

    In other words, after nearly two hundred years with you and after seventy-five years with us, there would seem to be no good reason for great differentials between the French population elements and the rest of the racial stocks.
     
    Worse, though, he wanted to pull something similar on the Jews:

    It is on the same basis that I am trying to work out post-war plans for the encouragement of the distribution of certain other nationalities in our large congested centers. There ought not to be such a concentration of Italians and of Jews, and even of Germans as we have today in New York City. I have started my National Resources Planning Commission to work on a survey of this kind.
     
    So basically Philip Roth's boyhood hero FDR was in real-life concocting what he fictionally impugned to the villain of THE PLOT AGAINST AMERICA (wonder if Roth's rath at the "nimrod" Trump becoming President- here's a guy who once thought the Supreme Allied Commander wasn't good enough for the White House- will suddenly snap him out of retirement).

    objective of assimilating the New England French Canadians and Canada’s French Canadians into the whole of our respective bodies politic…

    One of these objectives succeeded (French Canadian culture in New England doesn’t really exist anymore – people with French-Canadian last names have dissolved into garden variety white people and the only remaining clue is a French last name) and one failed spectacularly to the point where even the STOP signs in Quebec (unlike those in France) are in French. What was different? We’d better figure this out quick before our stop signs read ¡DETENER!

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  199. @SPMoore8
    Agreed. I think the Delanos were originally Huguenot anyway. I know from my own research that Dutch, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French Huguenots were all intermarrying from the earliest days of New Amsterdam, and there were even some old Polish families in New Jersey from way back who intermarried with them.

    That’s right: Zabriskie is perhaps the best known of them.

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  200. Jefferson says:

    The mainstream media is bashing White Americans for not voting in a racial bloc for Crooked Hillary.

    Yet nobody in the mainstream ever tries to justify why a Crooked Hillary presidency would be good for the majority of White Americans.

    Even the highest triple digit IQ Liberal working for The Huffington Post and The New York Daily News for example can not make a convincing argument as to why affirmative action, flooding suburbs with urban inner city Section 8 housing residents, open borders, sanctuary cities, Black Lies Matter, limiting free speech on college campuses, and increased Muslim immigration would benefit the majority of White Americans.

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  202. guest says:
    @Jack D
    Not to mention that the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic (as were the Dutch). Anglo Saxon says too little and too much. I suppose it is meant to exclude the Scots-Irish mountain folk, who are white and Protestant but not WASP but on the other hand the Welsh and Scotch qualify as WASP without having any Saxon blood. Maybe WASP, like race itself, is a "social construct" - you know a WASP when you see him (by his whale pants). Or perhaps Baltzell's alternative name , the "Protestant Establishment" should give you a clue - there are plenty of people who are white AND Anglo AND Protestant but still not WASP. But PE doesn't have the same ring.

    It was Baltzell's thesis, BTW, that Philadelphia WASPs (of which he was one) had never really carried their weight intellectually (in contrast to Boston) and that WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless - SOMEONE has got to be the alpha. I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America - once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose. Putin talks about this in Russia - in his view the biggest sin a leader can commit is to drop the reins of power because that's when chaos breaks out and millions suffer.

    There are two aspects of “WASP,” I think. They go together but aren’t coterminal. One has to do with the ruling class; the other with the founding stock. There were more than just Anglos present at the founding, obviously. There have been also been more than just Anglos running the country.

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  203. OutWest says:
    @Langley
    " for it tries to achieve the errorless – wich in itself is inhuman."

    Cute.

    Middle eastern rug makers always wove in a mistake for just that reason.

    Or is it the Navajo rug weavers?

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  204. OutWest says:
    @okie
    No doubt about that and his side of the Roosevelts started marrying Anglos long before Teddy's side, TR's father was the first to marry outside the dutch, and remember FDR's wife was Teddy's Neice.
    That said, especially with the wealth coming from the dutch side being lucky enough to have real estate in NYC, the surname and marrying back into a less mixed side, I'm assuming something that reminds me of a lot of Indians i know in OK. Most tribes here have a blood quanta for membership, but it can be 1/32 or 1/64 or even less in a lot of them. The odd thing is there is a inverse relation between Indian ID and Actual blood. The full and half bloods are Americans and then Indians, the mostly whites are Indians then Americans. That said i don't know intimate details about him, I've read a few bios of TR, but none of him.

    The Delanos –as in FDR- were the source of FDR”S wealth. Made it running opium into China for the Brits and later, and more ethically, in the U.S. for Civil War medicine.

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  205. Meanwhile, at Wikipedia, Think Progress is a more palatable source than VDare when talking about Steve Sailer:

    https://thinkprogress.org/the-white-nationalist-strategy-that-explains-donald-trumps-success-with-republicans-78780b43f430#.dyxkpjx1f

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  206. Svigor says:

    “These protesters are so loathsome…so privileged, so narrow-minded.”

    The same logic was applied to the colonists by the British. Why couldn’t they just accept paying a tax to help out the mother country?

    ‘Cept the Brits were the old money with the power and privilege, so it would be more appropriate to apply your analogy to today’s leftists. They’re also the ones who whine constantly about “white privilege.” But then you’re a complete hypocrite, so what do you care?

    But “Anglo-Saxon” was just an essential way of coming up with a clever acronym

    Sort of like “ASPs”; Ashkenazi Pseudo-Religionists.

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  207. Forbes says:
    @Dr. X

    Wait until someone brings up MLK’s treatment of women. Trump should use it as a reason to remove his bust from the Oval Office.
     
    You can't bring that up... because the government sealed King's FBI records for fifty years.

    When you're manufacturing a secular saint, you've got to purge all the contradictory evidence from the official narrative.

    Presumably 2018 is just around the corner…

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  208. Forbes says:
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    "Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations."

    I don't think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.

    The real odd group out was the Jews. They just had more drive, talent, ambition, and will. And craftiness, hostility, and contempt.

    And I'm not sure this would have gone away with attempt at assimilation. Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained. And the bitterness as well, even though some did assimilate successfully.

    Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained.

    USSR pushed communist indoctrination. If that’s assimilation, then it’s no wonder ethnic divides remained. Anything to resist brainwashing…

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    "Anything to resist brainwashing…"

    No need to use 'brainwashing' when you can use 'brainwishing'.

    Make people wish and wish. Like hope and change of Obama. When you wish upon a star.

    Btw, I think 'brainwashing' is a misconception.

    For one thing, everyone is born with washed brains.
    We have no memory of anything that came before us or happened to our ancestors. We don't know jack shi*. We are blank slate in that sense. We are born with inborn abilities and drives. But we are born without memory of any kind.

    Our personal memory depends on personal experience, but collective memory of 'our people' and our ancestors depend on what is told us by others.

    Communists didn't wash brains. They just filled the brains of newborns with their narrative. Why wash what arrives washed? Children remember and know nothing, so whatever they are told becomes their truth.

    This is the power of PC. It fills the born-washed brains of children with worship of MLK, homos, and Diversity.

    Kids don't know nuttin'.

    If a million Jewish kids are born this year, and if none are told about the Holocaust, it will be as though it never happened.
    Indeed, if they are told that Jews killed 6 million Germans, they will believe that and be filled with collective guilt.

    Every birth is like reboot-restoring a computer. All the previous files are gone. The innate operational program remains but all it stored in files are gone.

    So, PC(political correctness) is like PC(personal computer). It understands that each new kid is like a new computer without memory. So, Political Correctness provides the files with images and sounds that will be downloaded or installed on that organo-computer that is the child's mind.

    PC is like Microsoft Windows. It seeks monopoly.

    Alt Right and other Alt ideologies are like Linux and other programs offering something different.

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  209. @Barnard
    OT- https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-ben-carson-opts-against-job-trump-cabinet-163852548.html

    He said Carson would remain a close adviser of Trump and a friend. "His life has not prepared him to be a Cabinet secretary," Williams said.
     
    Isn't this essentially an admission Carson was never serious about becoming President in the first place? Most people thought he was running for the opportunity to become a Cabinet secretary in the winner's Cabinet. Critics who claimed Carson was running solely to sell books and live high on the hog off campaign donations appear to have been right.

    It’s not a terrible thing for a worthy black orator to get some advertising for his after dinner speaking career in the pre-primary GOP debates.

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    I agree, but if anyone mentioned that to one of his supporters during the campaign they called you every name in the book.
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  210. Forbes says:
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Totally off topic. jews are now a race?
    https://www.igenea.com/en/jews

    Race is a family tree, extended, and to some extent inbred–married to and reproducing among itself. Churchill regularly referred to England as an island race. Other nations’ leaders similarly referred to their fellow countrymen as of a race.

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  211. Boomstick says:

    The Chinese start using CRISPR gene editing on humans. I’ve always though the Chinese would be using genetic therapies before the US.

    http://www.nature.com/news/crispr-gene-editing-tested-in-a-person-for-the-first-time-1.20988

    A Chinese group has become the first to inject a person with cells that contain genes edited using the revolutionary CRISPR–Cas9 technique.

    On 28 October, a team led by oncologist Lu You at Sichuan University in Chengdu delivered the modified cells into a patient with aggressive lung cancer as part of a clinical trial at the West China Hospital, also in Chengdu.

    Earlier clinical trials using cells edited with a different technique have excited clinicians. The introduction of CRISPR, which is simpler and more efficient than other techniques, will probably accelerate the race to get gene-edited cells into the clinic across the world, says Carl June, who specializes in immunotherapy at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and led one of the earlier studies.

    “I think this is going to trigger ‘Sputnik 2.0’, a biomedical duel on progress between China and the United States, which is important since competition usually improves the end product,” he says.

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  212. What is this?

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    It looks ominous. Ryan really has emerged as one a leading Capitol Hill crapweasel. Trump needs to get put him in charge of cleaning the head at the gym, or something.
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  213. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Forbes

    Under communism, USSR pushed assimilation on everyone. But the ethnic divides remained.
     
    USSR pushed communist indoctrination. If that's assimilation, then it's no wonder ethnic divides remained. Anything to resist brainwashing...

    “Anything to resist brainwashing…”

    No need to use ‘brainwashing’ when you can use ‘brainwishing’.

    Make people wish and wish. Like hope and change of Obama. When you wish upon a star.

    Btw, I think ‘brainwashing’ is a misconception.

    For one thing, everyone is born with washed brains.
    We have no memory of anything that came before us or happened to our ancestors. We don’t know jack shi*. We are blank slate in that sense. We are born with inborn abilities and drives. But we are born without memory of any kind.

    Our personal memory depends on personal experience, but collective memory of ‘our people’ and our ancestors depend on what is told us by others.

    Communists didn’t wash brains. They just filled the brains of newborns with their narrative. Why wash what arrives washed? Children remember and know nothing, so whatever they are told becomes their truth.

    This is the power of PC. It fills the born-washed brains of children with worship of MLK, homos, and Diversity.

    Kids don’t know nuttin’.

    If a million Jewish kids are born this year, and if none are told about the Holocaust, it will be as though it never happened.
    Indeed, if they are told that Jews killed 6 million Germans, they will believe that and be filled with collective guilt.

    Every birth is like reboot-restoring a computer. All the previous files are gone. The innate operational program remains but all it stored in files are gone.

    So, PC(political correctness) is like PC(personal computer). It understands that each new kid is like a new computer without memory. So, Political Correctness provides the files with images and sounds that will be downloaded or installed on that organo-computer that is the child’s mind.

    PC is like Microsoft Windows. It seeks monopoly.

    Alt Right and other Alt ideologies are like Linux and other programs offering something different.

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  214. @melendwyr
    Culturally most 'white people' AREN'T my people. Our shared ethnicity is far less important than our worldviews and beliefs about reality - which render them more alien to me than a Grey would be.

    Ethnicity is important, but it's not paramount.

    Then DON’T join up with us. That’s fine. But I would like to see is that people like yourself are forced to make a choice. You want to blend in the global mass, have a ball, but you won’t joining our groups. You won’t be living in our neighborhoods. We will look to promote our own, just as you and your multi-culti crowd can feel free to promote your own.

    I suspect that if a large portion of European Americans start to withdraw, your types would feel it. But, hey, don’t worry, even if this come to pass, it wouldn’t be for a generation or two. You’ll be able to have your cake and eat it too. But your kids and grandkids won’t.

    Btw, regarding “Ethnicity is important, but it’s not paramount,” history says that you’re wrong. Ethnicity does, in fact, trump ideology.

    “In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.” Lee Kwan Yew.

    Whites have been on top for so long that we’ve forgotten that lesson. Either we relearn it, or we perish.

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  215. EriK says:
    @candid_observer
    infowars isn't exactly what I'd call a reliable source.

    If we want alternative media, the first thing really necessary is a media outlet whose reports can be taken as well-vetted.

    From my point of view, if infowars reports something in isolation, it means almost nothing until it is backed up by another source.

    Wasn’t the original source the American Spectator?

    I’m still skeptical.

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  216. Barnard says:
    @Steve Sailer
    It's not a terrible thing for a worthy black orator to get some advertising for his after dinner speaking career in the pre-primary GOP debates.

    I agree, but if anyone mentioned that to one of his supporters during the campaign they called you every name in the book.

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  217. SPMoore8 says:
    @Gabriel M
    Well I'm glad SOMEBODY picked up on it. Sailer's having a fundraising drive so, obviously, it's time for the Occam's rubber room posts linking standard university Leftist agitation to (((them))) and Sailer's pet obsessions. This one was nicely done: nothing too obvious, a couple of non-sequitors and a subtle "antigentilism" tag at the bottom. But 128 comments in and, Sailer's more excitable commentators finding Phillip Giraldi more commodious nowadays, it looked like no-one was even going to bring it up. Perhaps it was too subtle. Good job you pointed things out, everyone's gotta earn a livin.

    Actually, if you have followed this blog with anything but an ethno-centric obsession, you would know that the only reason why Sailer has a #antigentilism hashtag is because Sabrina Rubin Erdeley is obviously Jewish and when she wrote her article about “Jackie” she also very obviously slurred UVA, and moreover described the putatively predominant blue eyed blond flavor of the campus. In similar ways he quoted a poem “University” by “Karl Shapiro” which also showed a distinct animus towards UVA, and couched it in terms of hostility to blacks, Jews, and Deliverance-level incest, and he has also observed other Jewish creative people demonstrating not only a weird hostility to non-Jews (e.g., the guy who made “Mad Men”) but also an equally weird sense of persecution among Jewish Americans (Peter Beinart’s tweet quoted elsewhere).

    Is there something — here? — WRT to Jews having this odd obsession with non-Jews? “Anti-gentilism” may not be the best choice of words but it’s the only thing we have at the moment.

    So #antigentilism

    along with #HavenMonahan are default hashtags having to do with #UVA, which is why they were listed in the article.

    Now, in terms of the petition itself, I believe it was drafted by an AA woman on the Psychology Department staff, and I don’t think she’s Jewish. Another member of that department, named Dodd (not very Jewish sounding to me) is the husband of “Lawrie” and while the first name is odd (short for “Lawrence”? Like her parents wanted a son? Life she was named after some radical Jewish something? Like who?) and Balfour isn’t Jewish, no matter what declarations one might make. (I think she’s kind of cute, but then, I’m old.)

    So, not to disappoint you, but I don’t think Steve’s post has anything to do with (((Jews))) or catering to people who don’t like them. If someone wants to be promiscuous in their uses of parentheses, that’s on them.

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    So, err, you admit that this petition has nothing to with anti-gentilism. I'm not bitter, as I say, everyone's got to earn a living.

    Here's an example of something that fits into two recent themes of Sailer: campus craziness and the suppression of free speech.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/pro-israel-artist-threatened-with-5-years-in-jail-for-anti-terror-posters-at-gmu

    But no $$$ in that.
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  218. @Canadian Observer
    Sorry to be off topic, but is Trump quietly appointing the usual cast of neocons and Washington insiders to his Cabinet?

    It’s a good question and one of lively debate with lots of opinions. Maybe Steve could open a thread on it

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  219. @reiner Tor
    What is this?

    https://twitter.com/speakerryan/status/798635889836564481

    It looks ominous. Ryan really has emerged as one a leading Capitol Hill crapweasel. Trump needs to get put him in charge of cleaning the head at the gym, or something.

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  220. Twinkie says:
    @Percy Gryce
    I was just there for family weekend and my impression is that there are surprisingly few NAMs--and not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).

    not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).

    Harvard is something like 20+% Asian. UVA is around 13%, so, yes, it has fewer Asians (and more whites). But that pales – pardon the pun – in comparison to something like the University of Iowa, which is only 4% Asian, lower than even the national percentage of Asians.

    Also – and this was more to my original point – East Coast “whites” tend to be much more “ethnic” and darker, and not nearly as “blond and tan.” Universities such as Iowa and KU have whites who are very Germanic in ancestry.

    I think the leftist attacks on UVA as being too “blond and tan” has more to do with its status as a relatively conservative elite school more than it being too pale. The likes of Erdely are not going after Iowa and KU after all, probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (intellectual) threats to her people.

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    probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (intellectual) threats to her people.

    Probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (status) threats to her people.
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  221. Coemgen says:
    @anonguy

    I wonder what, if any, effect a Trump administration can have on this sort of nonsense.
     
    You guys need to take Steve's advice and start noticing things.

    If you had, you'd have noticed that this stuff is already on the run. It is going to take a while to purge the witch hunt hysteria, incidences of it have to happen for it to be purged, that is how trends end.

    Stop noticing this stuff. Start noticing where this sort of PC nonsense is getting shouted down by people on that side of the political spectrum, acknowledging the huge mistake all this mob action stuff is.

    It is all over the place now and the election is only a week past.

    Again, look back through my comments, I've prognosticated that SJW terrorism, and internet mob actions in general, will fall into disrepute after the Trump victory.

    It is happening in front of your eyes if you would only open them.
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    Look, I explained this already.

    For a trend to end, it has to continue for a while, but with people disapproving of it. The social pressure reduces the incidence and the social pressure has solidly turned against this stuff.

    This stuff is getting horrible PR now, how it comes across as a travesty, soon to be an obscenity/unthinkable thing to be doing.

    It is the beatdown phase.
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  222. @newrouter
    ot

    "This was the Sailer Strategy, named after the insightful blogger who coined the notion back in 2000. Steve Sailer’s essential idea, that the GOP needed to max out the white vote to keep winning national elections in the face of changing demographics, was rejected by most Republicans as smacking of racism."

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Excellent article. I never heard of this John R. Schindler guy before, but he’s very very good.

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  223. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: "We want the world and we want it now!"

    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: “We want the world and we want it now!”

    Interesting comment, but I disagree, mostly. Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution. This anticipated reclaiming of an Edenic paradise is a cornerstone of Marxism, both the original and now the cultural versions, and it’s a heresy that is parasitic on Christian eschatology.

    The problem is, in the Christian narrative God makes covenants with real people, i.e. first the Jews, and then the Church, who work out His will in gratitude and obedience to Him. In the Leftist heresy, there’s no God, so there’s no covenant; instead, it’s blind historical forces — e.g. Obama’s grotesquely vapid ‘the arc of history’ — that somehow will ‘bend’ toward the inevitable utopia (you can hear echos of Darwin’s theory and its tacit teleology here as well).

    So when an impersonal but irresistible force is driving history, there’s not much need for individuals to worry about their ancestors or their progeny. That’s for the Neanderthals who still believe in the covenant.

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    Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution
     
    Perhaps you've heard their secret society slogan: Next year on Martha's Vineyard
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    On the other hand, another commenter pointed out that the difference between progressives and marxists is that for the former, there is no end state. In the end perhaps I'm just being a commenter in search of a maxim.
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  224. @Jack D
    Not to mention that the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic (as were the Dutch). Anglo Saxon says too little and too much. I suppose it is meant to exclude the Scots-Irish mountain folk, who are white and Protestant but not WASP but on the other hand the Welsh and Scotch qualify as WASP without having any Saxon blood. Maybe WASP, like race itself, is a "social construct" - you know a WASP when you see him (by his whale pants). Or perhaps Baltzell's alternative name , the "Protestant Establishment" should give you a clue - there are plenty of people who are white AND Anglo AND Protestant but still not WASP. But PE doesn't have the same ring.

    It was Baltzell's thesis, BTW, that Philadelphia WASPs (of which he was one) had never really carried their weight intellectually (in contrast to Boston) and that WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless - SOMEONE has got to be the alpha. I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America - once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose. Putin talks about this in Russia - in his view the biggest sin a leader can commit is to drop the reins of power because that's when chaos breaks out and millions suffer.

    Good analysis.

    One of the other ironies of the term ‘WASP’ is that the WASPiest WASPs of all should be upper class Brits — who, even to this day, can still often be linked to their Norman forebears, who weren’t even precisely Anglo-Saxon themselves . . . .

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  225. Ivy says:
    @syonredux

    “Brings tears to my eyes. The good old days, when the WASP elite actually tried to Anglicize minority populations.”

    I don’t think ethnicism was the problem.

    Germans in Wisconsin, Swedens in Minnesota, Scotch-Irish in the South, Greeks in NY, Poles in Chicago, and etc all got along. I
     
    Scots-Irish are Anglo.

    German culture in America was crushed during WWI. Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    It was enough that they pledged to the flag and learned to speak English and admired George Washington and Lincoln.
     
    Rather more than that. The pre-60's WASP elite worked quite hard to make sure that immigrants absorbed Anglo norms and beliefs.

    Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.

    Yet the Philly establishment Quakers and Episcopalians, and their analogs in Chicago, saw a threat in the Polish and other Catholic enclaves. Those represented voting blocs and cultural differences that could destabilize the existing order. See The Slaughter of Cities by E. Michael Jones and related works by Michael Novak. The melting pot sometimes boiled over.

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    It was necessary to destroy the existing order in order to save the existing order.
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  226. SFG says:
    @ben tillman

    FDR was a leftist for his time. Anything a leftist does is OK, witness Bill Clinton and women or Robert Byrd and blacks.
     
    Some people consider Jefferson a leftist for his time, so I think your point needs further refinement.

    The sides really don’t line up with modern right and left when you go that far back. Jefferson was for rural and southern interests and decentralization but also was very suspicious of organized religion. Hamilton was for a central bank and a strong federal government. They actually kind of line up with our present developing globalist-populist axis, but that’s a new development.

    You get all kinds of weird alliances when you go back far enough–William Jennings Bryan was a Christian socialist, New York City was a hotbed of pro-Confederate sentiment in the Civil War… coalitions form and reform. Heck, back in the early 60s the white working class, the very people who elected Trump, were Democrats.

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  227. Ivy says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: “We want the world and we want it now!”

     

    Interesting comment, but I disagree, mostly. Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution. This anticipated reclaiming of an Edenic paradise is a cornerstone of Marxism, both the original and now the cultural versions, and it's a heresy that is parasitic on Christian eschatology.

    The problem is, in the Christian narrative God makes covenants with real people, i.e. first the Jews, and then the Church, who work out His will in gratitude and obedience to Him. In the Leftist heresy, there's no God, so there's no covenant; instead, it's blind historical forces -- e.g. Obama's grotesquely vapid 'the arc of history' -- that somehow will 'bend' toward the inevitable utopia (you can hear echos of Darwin's theory and its tacit teleology here as well).

    So when an impersonal but irresistible force is driving history, there's not much need for individuals to worry about their ancestors or their progeny. That's for the Neanderthals who still believe in the covenant.

    Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution

    Perhaps you’ve heard their secret society slogan: Next year on Martha’s Vineyard

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  228. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Mr. Anon,

    You certainly and correctly expanded on my use of "usual." This family expands the definition of white collar crime to a new dimension.

    Thank you for your expose of this family of political and business vipers.

    I should hasten to add that I am not aware of anything shady or illegal that the son may have done; as far as I know he hasn’t, and I didn’t mean to impugn his character

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    Mr. Anon,

    My thoughts on his character:

    The Apple Never Falls Far From the Tree!
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  229. Lurker says:
    @Twinkie

    not even that many Asians compared to Harvard Square or University City (UPenn).
     
    Harvard is something like 20+% Asian. UVA is around 13%, so, yes, it has fewer Asians (and more whites). But that pales - pardon the pun - in comparison to something like the University of Iowa, which is only 4% Asian, lower than even the national percentage of Asians.

    Also - and this was more to my original point - East Coast "whites" tend to be much more "ethnic" and darker, and not nearly as "blond and tan." Universities such as Iowa and KU have whites who are very Germanic in ancestry.

    I think the leftist attacks on UVA as being too "blond and tan" has more to do with its status as a relatively conservative elite school more than it being too pale. The likes of Erdely are not going after Iowa and KU after all, probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (intellectual) threats to her people.

    probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (intellectual) threats to her people.

    Probably because her types see the latter as hick schools that pose no (status) threats to her people.

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  230. Lurker says:
    @Ivy

    Swedes, Greeks, Poles, etc, were never numerous enough to pose a threat to Anglo hegemony.
     
    Yet the Philly establishment Quakers and Episcopalians, and their analogs in Chicago, saw a threat in the Polish and other Catholic enclaves. Those represented voting blocs and cultural differences that could destabilize the existing order. See The Slaughter of Cities by E. Michael Jones and related works by Michael Novak. The melting pot sometimes boiled over.

    It was necessary to destroy the existing order in order to save the existing order.

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  231. Ivy says:
    @Richard S
    These dickheads are still spewing their anti-American bile. The sheer objective stupidity of it is enough to find irritating, let alone the explicit Kulturkampf against "Western" Man. Thomas Jefferson wasn't just a man of his time. He was a supreme example of the Enlightenment polymath. And these liars now want to censor the man who founded not only the Republic, but the very university which makes the mistake of paying them?

    I think not. The wheel of history is turning.

    The ludicrous anti-Jefferson nonsense is brought to you but people who also believed that Hillary (Hillary!) was the most qualified Presidential candidate ever. How they could mention her in the same league as Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison and others is demoralizing but not surprising. If she wants a monument, put it in DC where she is jumping not just a shark but a whole national aquarium.

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  232. anonguy says:
    @Coemgen

    Look, I explained this already.

    For a trend to end, it has to continue for a while, but with people disapproving of it. The social pressure reduces the incidence and the social pressure has solidly turned against this stuff.

    This stuff is getting horrible PR now, how it comes across as a travesty, soon to be an obscenity/unthinkable thing to be doing.

    It is the beatdown phase.

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  233. @SPMoore8
    Agreed. I think the Delanos were originally Huguenot anyway. I know from my own research that Dutch, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French Huguenots were all intermarrying from the earliest days of New Amsterdam, and there were even some old Polish families in New Jersey from way back who intermarried with them.

    The Huguenots mixed with the Puritans from the beginning. The Mayos were probably another Huguenot family (not Irish) that mixed in very early.

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  234. Lagertha says:
    @Corvinus
    "These protesters are so loathsome…so privileged, so narrow-minded."

    The same logic was applied to the colonists by the British. Why couldn't they just accept paying a tax to help out the mother country?

    It's not the protestors, it's the protestors who are violent. The ones who destroy property.

    "It disgusts me that soldiers, now for 15 years, are fighting for the liberties of these arrogant, unpatriotic, undignified, lazy youth who would never have the guts to serve in the Army, Navy or Marines."

    You really need to educate yourself.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/anti-donald-trump-protest-former-marine-alexander-mccoy-plans-nyc-rally-against-gop-2372840

    It is EXACTLY why soldiers died to enable those who you oppose politically to be able to show their displeasure with the current system.

    "If my sons did this, they know I would stop paying their tuition, and their entire inheritance would be turned over to Veterans (and animals!) in my will! But, my sons are not doing this regardless of their vote. I raised them well!"

    You mean you propagandized them well. No different than Soros or the Alt-Right.

    you always insist on taking everything out of context, and proceed to lecture anyone about history that is either wrong, irrelevant, disjointed, or just plain goofy whenever someone says something off the top of their head. You never listen (read & think before responding) to what people are actually saying; probably, because, as I said in the past to you: you believe in nothing, just antagonizing people to approve your point of view. Always trying to convince people you’ve got it right; it’s so naive, and kinda’ sad. I find you too bi-polar, and probably not as worldly as me – I can tell. So, your senseless chirping at strangers like me, and others, on Steve’s site is really, boring. Your last line, says it all. Out of courtesy, I replied…but no more after this.

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    "you always insist on taking everything out of context, and proceed to lecture anyone about history that is either wrong, irrelevant, disjointed, or just plain goofy whenever someone says something off the top of their head."

    Why don't you offer up a particular instance rather than virtue signaling?

    "You never listen (read & think before responding) to what people are actually saying; probably, because, as I said in the past to you: you believe in nothing, just antagonizing people to approve your point of view."

    So, if I believe in nothing, how am I able to convince people of my point of view?

    "I find you too bi-polar, and probably not as worldly as me – I can tell."

    From a blog site? Hardly.
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  235. Dan Hayes says:
    @Mr. Anon
    I should hasten to add that I am not aware of anything shady or illegal that the son may have done; as far as I know he hasn't, and I didn't mean to impugn his character

    Mr. Anon,

    My thoughts on his character:

    The Apple Never Falls Far From the Tree!

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  236. guest says:
    @Flip
    My father was 100% German and he said that he was a "WASP" due to the Angles and Saxons originally coming from Angeln and Saxony in Germany.

    Andrew Mellon, Andrew Jackson, and Woodrow Wilson were of Scotch-Irish Protestant descent. I'd consider them WASPs.

    Andy Jackson definitely wasn’t a WASP. That’s why the WASPs called him King Mob.

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  237. anonguy says:
    @Anonymous
    Hey Steve, this Observer article quotes you extensively...and approvingly I'd say.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

    Ironic because this is Kushner's paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    If the Trump presidency is led off the rails by a crypto-liberal consigliere it will be the last straw.

    Ironic because this is Kushner’s paper and today Politico briefing says Kushner convinced DJT to install Preibus. Which really pisses me off. Politico claims Kushner has the last word with Donald.

    Preibus is a great unsung hero of this election, been saying that since Trump’s meeting with him in DC so long ago…

    I wasn’t at all surprised to see him at the victory speech and now as chief of staff.

    It is a great choice. Preibus is a man of integrity/principle.

    He is the only one that stood between the RNC/GOPe doing to Trump what the DNC did to Sanders.

    And tactically, Preibus, Wisconsin R, in tight with Ryan, back channel there to hard right which Trump is not willing to embrace too tightly.

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  238. backup says:
    @Anon
    Part of the problem is that today's leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals. You start with 2 people who met up at some '60s protest, and they had kids in the early '70s. These kids in turn met more radical leftists at college and married them, and in turn had kids in the mid-to-latter half of the '90s. Today's college kids are the children of two previous generations of these nutjobs, and any dog breeder could have told you what's going to happen.

    Their genes are going downhill. Assortive mating of a type that did not exist in earlier generations is producing people with concentrated neurotic tendencies, poor reality checkers, proneness to hysteria, and emotionally instability. I'd diagnose a lot of these protesters as having borderline or histrionic personality disorders. They're escalating their behaviors because they don't feel 'real' or validated as people unless they're getting attention at a riot.

    At least the radicals of the 1960s had a sane goal. The men didn't want to be drafted and die in the Vietnam war, and I can understand that. Who'd want to be killed in some godforsaken place right when the US is beginning to produce sex, drugs, rock and roll, and economic prosperity?

    But the grandkids? They're protesting not being given purple markers so they can draw out their anguish at Trump being elected president. And about trannies not having access to womens' bathrooms.

    How have the mighty fallen.

    There is some good evidence, based on twin studies, that political opinion is heritable. Considering the stark differences in birth rates between the left and the right inevitably liberals will become a minority among whites.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038932/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/katherine-baldwin/feminine-mystique-is-this-all_b_2688263.html

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  239. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Leftists live in a perpetual present, denying ancestors and eating its children. They are pseudo intellectuals living out the high time preference of the ghetto: “We want the world and we want it now!”

     

    Interesting comment, but I disagree, mostly. Leftists seem to me to live in constant expectation of an eventual utopia, made possible by revolution. This anticipated reclaiming of an Edenic paradise is a cornerstone of Marxism, both the original and now the cultural versions, and it's a heresy that is parasitic on Christian eschatology.

    The problem is, in the Christian narrative God makes covenants with real people, i.e. first the Jews, and then the Church, who work out His will in gratitude and obedience to Him. In the Leftist heresy, there's no God, so there's no covenant; instead, it's blind historical forces -- e.g. Obama's grotesquely vapid 'the arc of history' -- that somehow will 'bend' toward the inevitable utopia (you can hear echos of Darwin's theory and its tacit teleology here as well).

    So when an impersonal but irresistible force is driving history, there's not much need for individuals to worry about their ancestors or their progeny. That's for the Neanderthals who still believe in the covenant.

    On the other hand, another commenter pointed out that the difference between progressives and marxists is that for the former, there is no end state. In the end perhaps I’m just being a commenter in search of a maxim.

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  240. Marcus says:
    @Gabriel M
    Whatever. If I took a Peter Beinhart article about the poor wee Palestinians and posted it in Taki's mag, you'd think it was the best thing ever.

    Never forget!

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  241. Corvinus says:
    @Lagertha
    you always insist on taking everything out of context, and proceed to lecture anyone about history that is either wrong, irrelevant, disjointed, or just plain goofy whenever someone says something off the top of their head. You never listen (read & think before responding) to what people are actually saying; probably, because, as I said in the past to you: you believe in nothing, just antagonizing people to approve your point of view. Always trying to convince people you've got it right; it's so naive, and kinda' sad. I find you too bi-polar, and probably not as worldly as me - I can tell. So, your senseless chirping at strangers like me, and others, on Steve's site is really, boring. Your last line, says it all. Out of courtesy, I replied...but no more after this.

    “you always insist on taking everything out of context, and proceed to lecture anyone about history that is either wrong, irrelevant, disjointed, or just plain goofy whenever someone says something off the top of their head.”

    Why don’t you offer up a particular instance rather than virtue signaling?

    “You never listen (read & think before responding) to what people are actually saying; probably, because, as I said in the past to you: you believe in nothing, just antagonizing people to approve your point of view.”

    So, if I believe in nothing, how am I able to convince people of my point of view?

    “I find you too bi-polar, and probably not as worldly as me – I can tell.”

    From a blog site? Hardly.

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  242. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines,"

    They used to. And why do you think that some don't any more? Did they "evolve" as your types like to say? No. They've been punished for showing any racial solidarity.

    The minute that whites realize that they can show pride in being European and have some back-up, a great number will do so. Many won't. So what. That's their choice. However, if you think that in a world where European Americans are free to choose between joining their fellow whites or being shunned by them and thus being forced to spend their time with the Coalition of the Fringes that a very large majority of European Americans won't choose their own, you're crazy.

    For decades, liberal whites have been able to have their cake and eat it too. They can trash on their fellow Badwhites while still getting to work with them instead of blacks and browns, send their kids to school with Badwhite kids instead of blacks and browns, etc. End that deal, and you'll see many Goodwhite children choose our side.

    The vast majority of whites don't want to be excluded from other whites.

    "Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends."

    That's the idea. Granted, at the moment, it's just that, an idea. But it has a chance, and that possibility is terrifying to people like you because you know what life without pliable whites would like like. Liberia anyone.

    "You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality."

    Jews have lasted for thousands of years by rejecting your reality. The Amish also are doing quite well.

    There's no commandment that says whites need to fade away. It's up to us. God know blacks and Hispanics can't stop us if we decide to close ranks. You guys are just props in the Goodwhite-Badwhite civil war. Don't you know that?

    "What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to “come around” your line of thinking?"

    If even a third of European Americans over the course of the next couple of generations (this is a very long process) choose this path - and it likely will be more - that's 60 million people - about the size of France or Britain. I think that I can live with that.

    As to the other European Americans who choose not associate with us, what about them? They can do what they want. However, as they look at our neighborhoods, our schools, our baseball leagues, our business clubs, our community centers, etc, and compare those to the run-down, dangerous public counter-parts filled with people who neither look like them nor act like them, I suspect that they will quickly change their tune. If not, good for them. Enjoy the multi-culti world. It's just not my world.

    God didn't create the United States. God didn't create the current system in this country. Like everything else in history, this too shall pass. Indeed, no multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country has ever survived too long without one group being in charge. (Heck, you typically only need one of those three to destroy a country, so truly and utterly screwed.)

    "You go, girlfriend!"

    That's what they told Trump. Probably told Jews the same thing about a homeland a hundred years ago.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to start checking some things out and making some calls. Even if I fail, there will be others. Something has changed. And I for one am not going back.

    Good luck, Corvinus. And I mean that. Showing pride in your own people and choosing the live, work and play with them doesn't mean hating other peoples. I wish you well. I just don't want you in my world, so I will begin the long process of shutting you out. Maybe I'll fail, but at least I tried.

    But the one thing that I know is that the vast - yes, the vast - majority of whites, even a large portion of Goodwhites, don't want to be around blacks and Hispanics. They just don't. It's why they're punished so hard. If they ever get the chance to separate from you, they'll rejoice and move in droves.

    You know that's the truth, and all of your attempts at being clever, will never change that fact.

    “They used to. And why do you think that some don’t any more? Did they “evolve” as your types like to say? No. They’ve been punished for showing any racial solidarity.”

    No, whites historically thought of themselves as being part of a European ethnic group. The Age of Imperialism (late 1800′s) put into play this white vs. non-white meme.

    “The minute that whites realize that they can show pride in being European and have some back-up, a great number will do so. Many won’t. So what.”

    Whites in America are mutts. They refer to themselves as Americans, not white Europeans. They are still mindful, however, of their heritage.

    “That’s their choice. However, if you think that in a world where European Americans are free to choose between joining their fellow whites or being shunned by them and thus being forced to spend their time with the Coalition of the Fringes that a very large majority of European Americans won’t choose their own, you’re crazy.”

    You are assuming that whites will inevitably shun their fellow whites for not joining up with them against nonwhites.

    “For decades, liberal whites have been able to have their cake and eat it too. They can trash on their fellow Badwhites while still getting to work with them instead of blacks and browns, send their kids to school with Badwhite kids instead of blacks and browns, etc. End that deal, and you’ll see many Goodwhite children choose our side.”

    How do you even define “badwhites and goodwhites”? Are you not saying that race is a social construct when insisting these groups exist?

    “The vast majority of whites don’t want to be excluded from other whites.”

    Prove it. Give me hard core evidence of this phenomenon or retract.

    “That’s the idea. Granted, at the moment, it’s just that, an idea. But it has a chance, and that possibility is terrifying to people like you because you know what life without pliable whites would like like. Liberia anyone.”

    Again, you assume that whites are going to be in lockstep with your idea. It hasn’t been that way. Look at slavery. Badwhites overtook Goodwhites on this issue.

    “Jews have lasted for thousands of years by rejecting your reality. The Amish also are doing quite well.”

    Exceptions to the rule. Unique circumstances.

    “God know blacks and Hispanics can’t stop us if we decide to close ranks.”

    God promotes good will among all men. Race is not one’s uniform in His eyes. Don’t you know that?

    “You guys are just props in the Goodwhite-Badwhite civil war. Don’t you know that?”

    There is no civil war between whites. It is conjured up by the Alt Right.

    “If even a third of European Americans over the course of the next couple of generations (this is a very long process) choose this path – and it likely will be more – that’s 60 million people – about the size of France or Britain. I think that I can live with that.”

    It is not likely. It may or may not happen. You are being overly dramatic.

    “As to the other European Americans who choose not associate with us, what about them? They can do what they want. However, as they look at our neighborhoods, our schools, our baseball leagues, our business clubs, our community centers, etc, and compare those to the run-down, dangerous public counter-parts filled with people who neither look like them nor act like them, I suspect that they will quickly change their tune. If not, good for them. Enjoy the multi-culti world. It’s just not my world.”

    Those neighborhoods, schools, baseball leagues, business clubs, ec. are ALL of ours, i.e. the citizens of America.

    “God didn’t create the United States. God didn’t create the current system in this country.”

    But God commanded that his followers adhere to his creation. Are you an adherent to Christ?

    “But the one thing that I know is that the vast – yes, the vast – majority of whites, even a large portion of Goodwhites, don’t want to be around blacks and Hispanics. They just don’t. It’s why they’re punished so hard. If they ever get the chance to separate from you, they’ll rejoice and move in droves.”

    No, a minority of whites feel that way. If that be the case, the Civil Rights Movement would have never occurred, with professional sports and the corporate world today reflecting your distorted worldview.

    “You know that’s the truth, and all of your attempts at being clever, will never change that fact.”

    It’s YOUR truth, not the actual truth.

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  243. backup says:
    @Corvinus
    People here have to keep in mind that it is the Coalition of the Left fringe groups who make these demands, not liberals in general. But, to the Alt Right, it much easier for there narrative to make in-roads by neglecting to make this distinction.

    "I’m not talking about some civil war fantasy. I simply mean European Americans doing what Jews (and Mormons) have always done. Set up European American business groups, charities, schools/cultural centers, lobbies, think tanks, etc. Look out for your own. Promote your people’s interests."

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.

    Feel free to exercise your liberty to carve out that niche for you and your like-minded friends.

    "When a politician, member of the media, academic or business person from another race/ethnicity/religion says something disparaging against European Americans, you fight back and you fight back hard. You also don’t forget. I want that guy (or business or organization) to still be having problems a decade or two later because of that comment."

    You are well within your freedom to disassociate yourself from reality.

    "A peaceful European nation within a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country. How that country-in-name-only goes won’t be that important. We’ll have our nation that insulates us."

    What happens when most whites rejects this proposition? How do you force them to "come around" your line of thinking?

    "Time to build a new European American nation."

    You go, girlfriend!

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.

    That mentality seems to be changing, doesn’t it? We see in the US and Europe a colossal change of mind.

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    Colossal change of mind in terms of the American voter, with non-college educated whites being the tipping point, putting in a non-politician in large part for ideological reasons.
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  244. Gabriel M says:
    @SPMoore8
    Actually, if you have followed this blog with anything but an ethno-centric obsession, you would know that the only reason why Sailer has a #antigentilism hashtag is because Sabrina Rubin Erdeley is obviously Jewish and when she wrote her article about "Jackie" she also very obviously slurred UVA, and moreover described the putatively predominant blue eyed blond flavor of the campus. In similar ways he quoted a poem "University" by "Karl Shapiro" which also showed a distinct animus towards UVA, and couched it in terms of hostility to blacks, Jews, and Deliverance-level incest, and he has also observed other Jewish creative people demonstrating not only a weird hostility to non-Jews (e.g., the guy who made "Mad Men") but also an equally weird sense of persecution among Jewish Americans (Peter Beinart's tweet quoted elsewhere).

    Is there something -- here? -- WRT to Jews having this odd obsession with non-Jews? "Anti-gentilism" may not be the best choice of words but it's the only thing we have at the moment.

    So #antigentilism

    along with #HavenMonahan are default hashtags having to do with #UVA, which is why they were listed in the article.

    Now, in terms of the petition itself, I believe it was drafted by an AA woman on the Psychology Department staff, and I don't think she's Jewish. Another member of that department, named Dodd (not very Jewish sounding to me) is the husband of "Lawrie" and while the first name is odd (short for "Lawrence"? Like her parents wanted a son? Life she was named after some radical Jewish something? Like who?) and Balfour isn't Jewish, no matter what declarations one might make. (I think she's kind of cute, but then, I'm old.)

    http://politics.virginia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/pt1.jpg

    So, not to disappoint you, but I don't think Steve's post has anything to do with (((Jews))) or catering to people who don't like them. If someone wants to be promiscuous in their uses of parentheses, that's on them.

    So, err, you admit that this petition has nothing to with anti-gentilism. I’m not bitter, as I say, everyone’s got to earn a living.

    Here’s an example of something that fits into two recent themes of Sailer: campus craziness and the suppression of free speech.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/pro-israel-artist-threatened-with-5-years-in-jail-for-anti-terror-posters-at-gmu

    But no $$$ in that.

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    I think you are missing the point. #antigentilism and #ImwithHavenMonahan have been the hashtags associated with any UVA story since December, 2014. They are attached to any story featuring UVA, regardless of actual content.

    It's not Steve Sailer's fault that this silly oneupmanship intersectional rank pulling petition emanated from UVA. Nevertheless, since UVA has become an instition that folks around here view quizzically, it's only fair that Steve referenced the petition.

    I get your point and I concur about your story of the (sounds like) Russian Jewish guy who was criminally charged for putting up posters at George Mason. It is absolutely true that Jewish interests (as long as they are perceived as identical to Zionist and/or Israeli interests) are very much threatened by the current PC climate in colleges and universities. Steve has actually written about this more than once.

    However, that shoe was formerly on the other foot, and there was a time when Jews foolishly endorsed censoring free speech on campuses, the most recent incident I have in mind concerns a rescinded invitation to allow the late anti-Zionist Tony Judt to speak at NYU some ten years ago.

    My personal preference is that colleges and universities should allow all manner of speech, albeit with a volume control. If we can agree on that much, then we are in agreement about the fact that pro-Zionism is no longer "tolerated" speech on campuses.

    The part about your post I did not like was your insinuation that Steve was only using the referenced hashtags to get money from anti-Semites. I don't think that applies in this case, and I consider that kind of accusation mean spirited and deliberately provocative. Best Regards.
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  245. SPMoore8 says:
    @Gabriel M
    So, err, you admit that this petition has nothing to with anti-gentilism. I'm not bitter, as I say, everyone's got to earn a living.

    Here's an example of something that fits into two recent themes of Sailer: campus craziness and the suppression of free speech.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/pro-israel-artist-threatened-with-5-years-in-jail-for-anti-terror-posters-at-gmu

    But no $$$ in that.

    I think you are missing the point. #antigentilism and #ImwithHavenMonahan have been the hashtags associated with any UVA story since December, 2014. They are attached to any story featuring UVA, regardless of actual content.

    It’s not Steve Sailer’s fault that this silly oneupmanship intersectional rank pulling petition emanated from UVA. Nevertheless, since UVA has become an instition that folks around here view quizzically, it’s only fair that Steve referenced the petition.

    I get your point and I concur about your story of the (sounds like) Russian Jewish guy who was criminally charged for putting up posters at George Mason. It is absolutely true that Jewish interests (as long as they are perceived as identical to Zionist and/or Israeli interests) are very much threatened by the current PC climate in colleges and universities. Steve has actually written about this more than once.

    However, that shoe was formerly on the other foot, and there was a time when Jews foolishly endorsed censoring free speech on campuses, the most recent incident I have in mind concerns a rescinded invitation to allow the late anti-Zionist Tony Judt to speak at NYU some ten years ago.

    My personal preference is that colleges and universities should allow all manner of speech, albeit with a volume control. If we can agree on that much, then we are in agreement about the fact that pro-Zionism is no longer “tolerated” speech on campuses.

    The part about your post I did not like was your insinuation that Steve was only using the referenced hashtags to get money from anti-Semites. I don’t think that applies in this case, and I consider that kind of accusation mean spirited and deliberately provocative. Best Regards.

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  246. Corvinus says:
    @backup

    White Americans in general do not think nor act along these lines, nor should they be demanded by Alt-Right elites or anti-cuck talking heads that they must behave in a prescribed manner.
     
    That mentality seems to be changing, doesn't it? We see in the US and Europe a colossal change of mind.

    “That mentality seems to be changing, doesn’t it? We see in the US and Europe a colossal change of mind.”

    Colossal change of mind in terms of the American voter, with non-college educated whites being the tipping point, putting in a non-politician in large part for ideological reasons.

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  247. @Jack D
    Not to mention that the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic (as were the Dutch). Anglo Saxon says too little and too much. I suppose it is meant to exclude the Scots-Irish mountain folk, who are white and Protestant but not WASP but on the other hand the Welsh and Scotch qualify as WASP without having any Saxon blood. Maybe WASP, like race itself, is a "social construct" - you know a WASP when you see him (by his whale pants). Or perhaps Baltzell's alternative name , the "Protestant Establishment" should give you a clue - there are plenty of people who are white AND Anglo AND Protestant but still not WASP. But PE doesn't have the same ring.

    It was Baltzell's thesis, BTW, that Philadelphia WASPs (of which he was one) had never really carried their weight intellectually (in contrast to Boston) and that WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless - SOMEONE has got to be the alpha. I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America - once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose. Putin talks about this in Russia - in his view the biggest sin a leader can commit is to drop the reins of power because that's when chaos breaks out and millions suffer.

    “…WASPs in general were in decline and since WWII had been passed intellectually by Jews and by a sort of meritocracy.

    If you know about (one theory of) dog behavior, dogs really prefer you, their master, to be the alpha, but if they see that there is no alpha around, they will start acting like alphas because the most dangerous thing to a pack of dogs is being leaderless – SOMEONE has got to be the alpha.

    I think this dynamic explains a lot about postwar America – once the WASPs lost their confidence to rule, all hell broke loose.

    So, Tzadk, who’s alpha dogging, wagging the tail, or doing whatever you call it, to this country for the last 40 years?

    I mean somebody had to do all that leadership that WASP wouldn’t, right?
    Otherwise, the strawberry fields would continue to rot forever and ever in this country.

    Who, whom,who, whom,who, whom???

    Also, be so kind and, before you start flinging pellet poopsicles from ADL arsenal, go find out what Ron Unz says about the merit of meritocracy in modern day America.

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  248. @Opinionator
    To be fair, it is a public institution. They could argue that they are already forced to pay for it.

    Does anyone have a sense of how well U.Va. would fare as a private institution?

    Sorry I’m late to this party, but public support at the University of Virginia lately ranges from 6% to 10% of the institution’s budget, depending on the year. So it’s almost private already, though Richmond will never let it go. In the legal sense, that is.

    http://www.virginia.edu/facts

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/how-much-state-funding-does-the-university-of-virginia-receive/2013/09/12/fb999782-1baf-11e3-82ef-a059e54c49d0_story.html

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  249. @Anon
    "Part of the problem is that today’s leftist college students are the product of three generations of radicals."

    It's like radical version of Pokemon Go or Pokemon Prog.

    It used to be kids hunted for eggs on Easter.

    But now they hunt for 'racists', and since there aren't any, you gotta play games like KKK at Oberlin or Nazi rape gang at UVA or whatever.

    This is why Pepe as meme is so funny. It's a riff on the cartoonishness of the so-called Left.
    And these progs fell for the frog.

    Alt Right put some fashy symbols on the frog, and LOL ROTFL college professors began to give lectures on the EVIL meaning of Pepe. They got trolled.

    Hate Hoaxes are like a game. Someone makes a fake hoax, and a game starts to hunt down the 'racist', 'nazi', or 'homophobe'. And even though these progs throw fits and recoil in horror, they are turned on by the game of it. It's their version of fox hunting.

    Hate Hoax is like Snoopy as the Mad Punter.

    https://collectpeanuts.com/comicstrips/livesofsnoopy/241345.full.gif

    And I think the homo and tranny stuff made it all the sillier.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    Also, there is increasing friction with the Movement because all these groups have such different racial, economic, and cultural backgrounds and goals. But they are all supposed to worship Diversity. So, even though they can't stand each other, they must pretend to do so... and find some way to twist all their frustrations and dump blame on whitey.

    I think that black girl who went nuts at Yale over halloween costumes is really pissed that all these immigrants and homos are pushing blacks to the back of the bus. But since Diversity is sacrosanct, she can't bitch about that. So, her fury blows up at white male over something totally inane.

    Left was sometimes nutty and shrill in the past, but the themes at least held some moral gravitas: Civil Rights, Vietnam War, Poverty, and etc.

    Now, when so much of proggism is invested in trigger warnings about not being called the right gender, it has turned Twigglypuff. No wonder they freak out about halloween costumes.

    A great point, among many that you make.

    We really should put Jerelyn Luther on the $20.

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  250. Jefferson says:

    Speaking of Left Wing witch hunts on dead pale males both non fictional and fictional, would the song Tom Sawyer by the Canadian band Rush be considered a racist microaggression in today’s PC climate on steroids?

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  251. Thea says:
    @Njguy73
    Homeschooling and online college.

    Thank you and good night.

    Nope, that is a retreat. These are our public spaces our ancestors established for us to defend.

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    @Romanian

    The problem with Orange County is it has become way too Asian. Many parts of the county are starting to racially look like The San Gabriel Valley.
     
    This made me lol. It really shows how you can internalize a shitty situation as being part of the ordinary landscape. Just like most of you have accepted that 1965 is a done deal and that you can't even go back to pre-2000 demographics. I was expecting you to say that parts of the country look like China or Korea or whatever, and then you say San Gabriel Valley, that birthing place of the Asian aborigine :)

    1 million Chinese immigrants to Romania would do a lot of good for the host country. Both Portugal and Latvia now have buy-property-get-citizenship programs with the Chinese in mind.

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