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After the Walker Cup golf tournament at the Los Angeles Country Club in September, I walked down Wilshire Boulevard and stopped off in the Beverly Hilton hotel. There were a couple of hundred elegantly dressed black people lined up to get into a ballroom to attend a gala in honor of rap mogul Russell Simmons on the 25th anniversary of his Def Comedy Jam series.

Here’s a new article from the Los Angeles Times that helps explain why the old fogeys at the Los Angeles Country Club don’t let in showbiz folks like Simmons and Ratner:

Russell Simmons and Brett Ratner face new allegations of sexual misconduct
By AMY KAUFMAN, DANIEL MILLER AND VICTORIA KIM

NOV. 19, 2017

… In several of the accounts, the women said that [moviemaker Brett "Rush Hour"] Ratner, 48, surrounded himself with powerful friends, including [rap mogul Russell] Simmons and filmmaker James Toback, who, while sharing Ratner’s playboy lifestyle, have also been accused of engaging in sexual misconduct. Those friendships, some women said, enabled inappropriate behavior within the group, sometimes by active participation and in other cases by simply providing venues for incidents to take place.

RH3: Brett, Chris, Roman

These men and other older, controversial Hollywood friends — including producer Robert Evans and filmmaker Roman Polanski — have served as father figures to Ratner, who had a distant relationship with his late dad. Evans, the former Paramount Pictures production chief who was convicted of trafficking cocaine, explained his relationship with Ratner in a 2007 Vanity Fair story: “I was his Hollywood father. I don’t know whether I should be proud of that or not.”

Simmons, who co-founded Def Jam, has often described how Ratner first curried favor by furnishing him with models after they met in 1987. Then an undergraduate studying film at New York University, Ratner seemed to know where the models lived in Manhattan, Simmons has said.

“He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”

Ratner, who has said his father abused drugs and became homeless, found in Simmons a willing surrogate. “He’s my son, all right,” Simmons told Vanity Fair.

I wasn’t actually aware that a son should serve as his father’s pimp, but you learn something new every day.

I’m probably the only person who will admit to finding Ratner’s “Rush Hour” movies funny. I bet Brett Ratner originally intended to name his Jackie Chan-Chris Tucker “Rush Hour” trilogy about two buddy cops, neither of whom speak English

“Traffic Jam” in honor of his father-john Russell Simmons’ “Def Comedy Jam.”

Chris Tucker reminds me that African-Americans, at least in Los Angeles, really don’t like the Spanish language.

Also, commenter Dave Pinsen observes:

OT, but related to Steve’s previous post about golf clubs:

On Sunday night’s Curb Your Enthusiasm, Larry David’s Hispanic handyman asks Larry if he can take his family to Larry’s golf club to use the pool over the weekend. Dialogue along these lines ensues:

Larry David: “No, you can’t go there. They’re racist.”

Cesar the handyman: “You belong to a racist club?”

Larry David: “All clubs are racist.”

In real life, Larry is a member at Riviera in Pacific Palisades, which is less ethnic than most other L.A. clubs. O.J. was a member, although they emptied his locker out upon acquittal; Johnny Mathis is a member.

I’ve been raving about LACC lately, but Riviera, where the pros play ever winter, is a phenomenal design. Having been acquired in the late 1920s, it’s a more awkward piece of land than LACC, but it’s a phenomenal design by George Thomas, the final architect at LACC. Riviera, like Charles Blair MacDonald’s earlier National Golf Links of America, is a rare classic golf course that’s a little bit … funny in that odd terrain features, like the giant mound on Riviera’s fifth hole are emphasized rather than smoothed out. When Thomas didn’t have any weird land to work with, like on the sixth, he violated all the rules of golf design by putting a sand trap in the middle of the sixth green. The PGA Tour golfers are not a light-hearted bunch normally, but even they crack up trying to figure out how to deal with the damn bunker in the middle of the sixth green.

 
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  1. Clyde says:

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”

    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.

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    The power of regret rape.
    , @anonguy

    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.
     
    Dude is definitely in trouble. Perfect timing on that book release, no?

    Anyhow, this is all good. For fifty years American culture has lionized promiscuity and that era is coming to a close. You guys can go on about Jews and Hollywood as usual, but you'd be focused on the trees rather than the forest, again as usual.

    So, yay, decorum is back. Why aren't all you guys deliriously happy?

    This is all part of that spiritual rebirth that is coming, actually in process, first stages here.

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  2. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Simply depraved.

    I wonder how many other readers find these pieces about Hollywood (in the broad sense of all things mass culture, to include televised sports as well as films and music) irrelevant? These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. His pieces on golf courses are obscure, too, but don’t leave me feeling soiled.

    If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t.

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    • Agree: ia
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "Simply depraved."
     
    Agree.

    "These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. ... If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t."
     
    Disagree. Like it or not, the wallowing is already happening, voluntarily or involuntarily. One can't enter a commercial establishment, encounter broadcast media or even converse with most fellow citizens without getting at least winged by this stuff. And for a large part of the population, especially the young (i.e. future) population, this is a staple of their cultural diet. Whether or not you are fortunate enough to be able to live in some kind of isolation that 99% of the rest of us are not, ignoring this stuff won't make it go away. Rather the reverse.
    , @Alfa158
    I don't think anyone here can be described as wallowing in this s**t. What these articles are doing is pointing out that this s**t is the people who rule our culture, and if we want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, then we all need to agree to stop letting this s**t rule us. Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It's part of trying to save yourself from it.
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  3. After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models

    A regular Sherlock Holmes, this guy.

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  4. Danindc says:

    I’ve never seen any of the Rush Hour films…but you should be ashamed. Chris Tucker’s success made this country 20% less funny.

    Russell and Ratner – quite a duo. Opens up a new type of movie genre – the buddy rapist film.

    This purging has been terrible for Jews and blacks. All the Jews named have been the Jewiest of the Jews.

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    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby. Are we to believe that Black actors/directors are universally well-behaved? It sounds doubtful.
    , @Jon Halpenny
    As I have commented, there seems to be a rebellion of Gentile women underway. Latest news is that Rose McGowan has forced Lena Dunham to apologize for defending her co-ethnic, Murray Miller, against a rape allegation.

    Where will it end?
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  5. BB753 says:
    @Danindc
    I've never seen any of the Rush Hour films...but you should be ashamed. Chris Tucker's success made this country 20% less funny.

    Russell and Ratner - quite a duo. Opens up a new type of movie genre - the buddy rapist film.

    This purging has been terrible for Jews and blacks. All the Jews named have been the Jewiest of the Jews.

    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby. Are we to believe that Black actors/directors are universally well-behaved? It sounds doubtful.

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    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby.
     
    "Except" being the operative word there.
    , @notanon

    so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby
     
    by its nature Hollywood will be a nexus for sexual crimes due to the combination of powerful men holding the key to fame and attractive women desperate for that fame however i'd imagine unless they had a particular perversion there will be fewer actors than producers/directors etc in the frame for non-consensual misbehavior cos actors are often chosen for looks so if there are fewer black producers / director types then i'd expect fewer black culprits.

    on the other hand, interesting photo

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/17/article-2561058-1B90877D00000578-167_634x479.jpg
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  6. @Danindc
    I've never seen any of the Rush Hour films...but you should be ashamed. Chris Tucker's success made this country 20% less funny.

    Russell and Ratner - quite a duo. Opens up a new type of movie genre - the buddy rapist film.

    This purging has been terrible for Jews and blacks. All the Jews named have been the Jewiest of the Jews.

    As I have commented, there seems to be a rebellion of Gentile women underway. Latest news is that Rose McGowan has forced Lena Dunham to apologize for defending her co-ethnic, Murray Miller, against a rape allegation.

    Where will it end?

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  7. Never mind Russell. How’s Richard these days?

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  8. This purging has been terrible for Jews and blacks. All the Jews named have been the Jewiest of the Jews.

    But this Simmons guy is far from the blackiest of the blacks. Kinda high-jaundice, don’t ya think?

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  9. It’s almost like one of the primary reasons men go into show business is access to beautiful young women.

    Also, Rush Hours 1 and 2 are great movies to doze through on TNT at three o’clock on a Saturday afternoon.

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  10. jim jones says:

    Every golf course needs a sinkhole:

    http://www.topoftherock.com/sinkhole

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  11. @anonymous
    Simply depraved.

    I wonder how many other readers find these pieces about Hollywood (in the broad sense of all things mass culture, to include televised sports as well as films and music) irrelevant? These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. His pieces on golf courses are obscure, too, but don’t leave me feeling soiled.

    If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t.

    “Simply depraved.”

    Agree.

    “These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. … If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t.”

    Disagree. Like it or not, the wallowing is already happening, voluntarily or involuntarily. One can’t enter a commercial establishment, encounter broadcast media or even converse with most fellow citizens without getting at least winged by this stuff. And for a large part of the population, especially the young (i.e. future) population, this is a staple of their cultural diet. Whether or not you are fortunate enough to be able to live in some kind of isolation that 99% of the rest of us are not, ignoring this stuff won’t make it go away. Rather the reverse.

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Agreed. There is no way back. We push thru to the other side. Accelerationism.

    "you may not be interested in the end of history, but the end of history is interested in you."
    , @anonymous
    "Rather the reverse"?

    Are you saying that those of us foregoing TV and Hollywood movies are enabling the rot? Perhaps I misunderstand you, but when people consume even the relatively benign mass media products, they are supporting the same entities that serve up the stupid filth.

    The most effective way to deal with these beasts is to starve them. You don't need them, but they certainly need you.

    Nor does this require "some kind of isolation." If you want to watch others perform, then attend local concerts, plays, and sporting events. Better yet, take up one or more of those activities yourself.
    , @Redman
    Agree. It also helps to stay present to point out some of the hypocrisy from time to time. The culture is utterly debased, yet the left (or maybe just the feminist left) wants to pretend that we live in the Victorian era.

    Every 10 years or so, women release a primal scream, and rage against being treated like sexual objects. Which prompts an immediate backlash of “never mind.” Maybe it’s not so bad to be sexual objects after all. Keeps the culture on its toes.
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  12. whorefinder says: • Website

    “Jewish kid rejects father, idolizes blacks, ends up being degenerate.”

    I know like Hollywood likes remakes, but redoing The Jazz Singer with this POV and twist ending is really disturbing.

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  13. BenKenobi says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "Simply depraved."
     
    Agree.

    "These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. ... If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t."
     
    Disagree. Like it or not, the wallowing is already happening, voluntarily or involuntarily. One can't enter a commercial establishment, encounter broadcast media or even converse with most fellow citizens without getting at least winged by this stuff. And for a large part of the population, especially the young (i.e. future) population, this is a staple of their cultural diet. Whether or not you are fortunate enough to be able to live in some kind of isolation that 99% of the rest of us are not, ignoring this stuff won't make it go away. Rather the reverse.

    Agreed. There is no way back. We push thru to the other side. Accelerationism.

    “you may not be interested in the end of history, but the end of history is interested in you.”

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    @Almost Missouri

    "Simply depraved."
     
    Agree.

    "These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. ... If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t."
     
    Disagree. Like it or not, the wallowing is already happening, voluntarily or involuntarily. One can't enter a commercial establishment, encounter broadcast media or even converse with most fellow citizens without getting at least winged by this stuff. And for a large part of the population, especially the young (i.e. future) population, this is a staple of their cultural diet. Whether or not you are fortunate enough to be able to live in some kind of isolation that 99% of the rest of us are not, ignoring this stuff won't make it go away. Rather the reverse.

    “Rather the reverse”?

    Are you saying that those of us foregoing TV and Hollywood movies are enabling the rot? Perhaps I misunderstand you, but when people consume even the relatively benign mass media products, they are supporting the same entities that serve up the stupid filth.

    The most effective way to deal with these beasts is to starve them. You don’t need them, but they certainly need you.

    Nor does this require “some kind of isolation.” If you want to watch others perform, then attend local concerts, plays, and sporting events. Better yet, take up one or more of those activities yourself.

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    Well put.
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  15. anonguy says:

    I coined a neologism the other day dropping a lady friend off at the airport.

    Administering an ostensibly social hug in public with a low handed genteel and discreet butt pat is “giving the George Bush”.

    Brought a smile to her face anyhow.

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  16. I recall watching an episode of MTV “Cribs” (though not my usual habit) many years ago with Russell Simmons. At the time, I recall thinking how crass and vulgar the decor of his mansion was. I mean, Trump would have been offended by vulgarity. Aside from the de riguer African art, he had a ceiling painted with various cherubim and serpahim. After Russell finished pointing them out, his asian girlfriend made a special point of informing the audience, “And notice, they’re not white. Not all angels are white, America”. Or something very close to that. Also, noted a number of menacingly placid black men in suits wearing bow ties standing in the background that looked strikingly similar to “Nation of Islam” bodyguards.

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    P.S. Has anyone heard from Courtney Love? She recently described Ratner as "My best friend in [LA]".
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  17. @Clyde

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”
     
    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.

    The power of regret rape.

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  18. @Malcolm X-Lax
    I recall watching an episode of MTV "Cribs" (though not my usual habit) many years ago with Russell Simmons. At the time, I recall thinking how crass and vulgar the decor of his mansion was. I mean, Trump would have been offended by vulgarity. Aside from the de riguer African art, he had a ceiling painted with various cherubim and serpahim. After Russell finished pointing them out, his asian girlfriend made a special point of informing the audience, "And notice, they're not white. Not all angels are white, America". Or something very close to that. Also, noted a number of menacingly placid black men in suits wearing bow ties standing in the background that looked strikingly similar to "Nation of Islam" bodyguards.

    P.S. Has anyone heard from Courtney Love? She recently described Ratner as “My best friend in [LA]“.

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  19. anonguy says:
    @Clyde

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”
     
    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.

    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.

    Dude is definitely in trouble. Perfect timing on that book release, no?

    Anyhow, this is all good. For fifty years American culture has lionized promiscuity and that era is coming to a close. You guys can go on about Jews and Hollywood as usual, but you’d be focused on the trees rather than the forest, again as usual.

    So, yay, decorum is back. Why aren’t all you guys deliriously happy?

    This is all part of that spiritual rebirth that is coming, actually in process, first stages here.

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    "This is all part of that spiritual rebirth that is coming, actually in process, first stages here"

    I think you are correct. People are cord cutting, especially the young, and tv ratings and movie ticket sales are in decline. Sports attendance is down. My teenage boys watch essentially zero tv, including sports. They like to watch YouTube videos and the discussion quality is often a lot better than that on tv. My oldest and my niece are in their first year of college and they spend their weekend nights studying rather than partying, and have plenty of company. And it's not like they were raised in Amish-like bubbles, they are choosing to reject popular culture as packaged by media/corporations/academia. Minimalism is in, designer labels out. Homemade, artisanal, and local grown/made is in. I lurk on the chan sites and many advocate to each other turning their back on tv/modern media, be wary of big pharma, not to watch porn, eating healthy and not fast/processed food, reading older (pre-pc) books, hobbies, exercising, going to church. (They honestly remind me of my mother/grandmother.) They advise each other to take up trades and not fall for the college indebtedness scam. Many of them have daily, intimate experience with "diversity" and don't care for it. I really like a lot of the trends I see in the younger generation (except quite a few think socialism is good and the women are not as wised-up as the men yet) but it's going to be a hell of a fight to turn the ship around.

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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I never understood why Chris Tucker and Chris Rock were supposed to be funny. Jackie Chan is great though and the Rush Hour movies were a big waste of his talent.

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    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=christucker.htm

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=jackiechan.htm

    In his 45-year career, Jackie Chan has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars in North America; the three Rush Hour films, and "The Karate Kid" (with Jalen Smith). So I guess someone sees Chris Tucker's talent.
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  21. AndrewR says:

    I can’t imagine considering calling someone only 11 years younger than I my “son.” Protegé, little brother, even nephew, sure, but son is bizarre.

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    Not as bizarre as the same son at age fifteen screwing his mama.
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  22. hello says:

    I once listened to a podcast featuring Russell Simmons. It struck me that he was the first black man I had ever heard who talked like a stereotypical New York Jew.

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    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

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  23. Alfa158 says:
    @anonymous
    Simply depraved.

    I wonder how many other readers find these pieces about Hollywood (in the broad sense of all things mass culture, to include televised sports as well as films and music) irrelevant? These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. His pieces on golf courses are obscure, too, but don’t leave me feeling soiled.

    If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t.

    I don’t think anyone here can be described as wallowing in this s**t. What these articles are doing is pointing out that this s**t is the people who rule our culture, and if we want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, then we all need to agree to stop letting this s**t rule us. Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It’s part of trying to save yourself from it.

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    • Replies: @ia

    Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It’s part of trying to save yourself from it.
     
    That's a strange way to view culture. Millions of people may eat at McDonalds but that doesn't make it good food. Why such a negative association with culture? I'd think you'd want to acquire a taste for quality and stop eating stuff that's bad for you.
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  24. From what I’ve heard Simmons is crazy, he always smokes dust.

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    From what I’ve heard Simmons is crazy…….
     
    Brother with a Jewish pimp…….that is crazy!
    , @TelfoedJohn
    That’s Rick Rubin, no?
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Speaking of the Beastie Boys, Adam Horowitz was in a recent Ben Stiller movie--a decent one--called While We're Young, playing a very typical domesticated Baumbachian jew. He didn't do it like this or that, let alone with a whiffle ball bat.
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  25. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    https://www.intellihub.com/entire-baltimore-neighborhood-under-lockdown-police-declared-martial-law/

    Black Lives Kill.

    BLK was closer to the truth.

    But media mendacity poured gas on the fire.

    No mea culpa.

    And same at Charlottesville. The violence was the doing of the city and antifa.

    Way to go, bubi.

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  26. fish says:
    @C. Van Carter
    From what I've heard Simmons is crazy, he always smokes dust.

    From what I’ve heard Simmons is crazy…….

    Brother with a Jewish pimp…….that is crazy!

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  27. The Doonbeg links course in southwest Ireland had a bunker in the middle of a green until the Trumpening arrived, bought the place and removed that silly affectation:

    https://www.golfadvisor.com/articles/trump-international-golf-links-doonbeg-ireland-15471.htm

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    Say what you want about Rush. He was a thoroughly underated actor.

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    And here I always thought that Russell was a closeted gay.

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  30. @C. Van Carter
    From what I've heard Simmons is crazy, he always smokes dust.

    That’s Rick Rubin, no?

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  31. syonredux says:

    Simmons, who co-founded Def Jam, has often described how Ratner first curried favor by furnishing him with models after they met in 1987. Then an undergraduate studying film at New York University, Ratner seemed to know where the models lived in Manhattan, Simmons has said.

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”

    I’m assuming that “models”= pretty White girls.

    The White Slave Trade lives on…..

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    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,"a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs."

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  32. @C. Van Carter
    From what I've heard Simmons is crazy, he always smokes dust.

    Speaking of the Beastie Boys, Adam Horowitz was in a recent Ben Stiller movie–a decent one–called While We’re Young, playing a very typical domesticated Baumbachian jew. He didn’t do it like this or that, let alone with a whiffle ball bat.

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  33. Johnny Mathis is still alive!?

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  34. Somewhat OT: Looks like Lena Dunham is next in line for the Red Guard. She’s got the feminists and sistas pissed at her.

    I just don’t have it in me to actually read about the details, but this whole SJW “eat your own” phase is getting fun to watch.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/writer-leaves-lena-dunhams-lenny-letter-citing-hipster-racism/ar-BBFmAH6?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

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    And if the Revolution is devouring Lena Dunham, there'll be plenty of leftovers.
    , @fish

    …..but this whole SJW “eat your own” phase is getting fun to watch.
     
    I knew it would be good…..I had no idea just how good!
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    It's not that fun if you read the details. A Cadmean victory, even for outsiders.
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    I just don’t have it in me to actually read about the details, ...

    I'd be petrified that there might be pics.
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  35. Not to excuse anyone, or really even mitigate their debauchery, but I have a suspicion that Hollywood and DC are pretty much modern day Babylons. Also Wall Street and any other place where the really, really rich and powerful hang out.

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  36. syonredux says:

    Lena Dunham Reminds Everyone Why Women of Color Don’t Trust Her

    Lena Dunham is probably one of the most influential voices in feminism today. Sadly, her feminism has often ended up being painfully and dangerously white. This weekend, Dunham and Jenni Konner released a statement to The Hollywood Reporter, defending Girls writer Murray Miller against the allegation of assault made by actress Aurora Perrineau.

    A friend, a man she knew, was accused, and therefore Lena Dunham used her platform to publicly defend him and call Aurora Perrineau, a black woman, a liar.

    So, I have a question: How many times does Lena Dunham have to fail women of color before she actually begins to learn? Or more bluntly, how many times does Lena Dunham have to say and do racist sh[**] before white women stop defending her?

    We often talk about Taylor Swift and her white female victimhood, but Dunham has this quality in spades.

    https://www.themarysue.com/lena-dunham-women-of-color/

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    Aurora Perrineau, a black woman
     
    Haha. Could have fooled me.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/11/18/09/aurora-perrineau.jpg

    "Let them fight."
    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    Man, that is as who-whomiest as it gets.
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  37. Truth says:
    @syonredux

    Simmons, who co-founded Def Jam, has often described how Ratner first curried favor by furnishing him with models after they met in 1987. Then an undergraduate studying film at New York University, Ratner seemed to know where the models lived in Manhattan, Simmons has said.

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”
     
    I'm assuming that "models"= pretty White girls.

    The White Slave Trade lives on.....

    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,”a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs.”

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    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,”a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs.”
     
    Dunno. It's been pretty well-established that wealthy Black men have a strong desire to trade-up, and the equation is quite simple: White/Whitish women > Black women.....Hence, peddling White flesh to Black men is a lucrative trade.....the aptly named Ratner knew what he was doing....
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  38. @syonredux
    Lena Dunham Reminds Everyone Why Women of Color Don’t Trust Her

    Lena Dunham is probably one of the most influential voices in feminism today. Sadly, her feminism has often ended up being painfully and dangerously white. This weekend, Dunham and Jenni Konner released a statement to The Hollywood Reporter, defending Girls writer Murray Miller against the allegation of assault made by actress Aurora Perrineau.
     

    A friend, a man she knew, was accused, and therefore Lena Dunham used her platform to publicly defend him and call Aurora Perrineau, a black woman, a liar.

    So, I have a question: How many times does Lena Dunham have to fail women of color before she actually begins to learn? Or more bluntly, how many times does Lena Dunham have to say and do racist sh[**] before white women stop defending her?
     

    We often talk about Taylor Swift and her white female victimhood, but Dunham has this quality in spades.
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/lena-dunham-women-of-color/

    Aurora Perrineau, a black woman

    Haha. Could have fooled me.

    “Let them fight.”

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    The nose knows.
    , @Brutusale
    Black woman in a Led Zeppelin t-shirt?!

    Not in this universe.
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  39. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    I never understood why Chris Tucker and Chris Rock were supposed to be funny. Jackie Chan is great though and the Rush Hour movies were a big waste of his talent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOREa1H5u8

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=christucker.htm

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=jackiechan.htm

    In his 45-year career, Jackie Chan has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars in North America; the three Rush Hour films, and “The Karate Kid” (with Jalen Smith). So I guess someone sees Chris Tucker’s talent.

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    As your link shows, Tucker also has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars domestically, and 3 of them have been with Chan. Moreover, most of Chan's movies have been Hong Kong movies, while Tucker has exclusively been in Hollywood movies. Chan has only been in around 10 live action Hollywood movies. Chan also has had a much larger worldwide gross than Tucker has. The Rush Hour movies were a waste of Chan's talent back when he was still young enough to make real action movies.
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  40. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Somewhat OT: Looks like Lena Dunham is next in line for the Red Guard. She's got the feminists and sistas pissed at her.

    I just don't have it in me to actually read about the details, but this whole SJW "eat your own" phase is getting fun to watch.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/writer-leaves-lena-dunhams-lenny-letter-citing-hipster-racism/ar-BBFmAH6?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    And if the Revolution is devouring Lena Dunham, there’ll be plenty of leftovers.

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  41. syonredux says:
    @Truth
    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,"a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs."

    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,”a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs.”

    Dunno. It’s been pretty well-established that wealthy Black men have a strong desire to trade-up, and the equation is quite simple: White/Whitish women > Black women…..Hence, peddling White flesh to Black men is a lucrative trade…..the aptly named Ratner knew what he was doing….

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    Well, first of all, Sport, they're not "women..."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR1XmpvyC2U

    , @Anonymous
    Simmons has been rumored to be gay or on the down low for years. It's not inconceivable that Ratner may have supplied him with male models or twinks, either exclusively or in addition to female models.
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  43. fish says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Somewhat OT: Looks like Lena Dunham is next in line for the Red Guard. She's got the feminists and sistas pissed at her.

    I just don't have it in me to actually read about the details, but this whole SJW "eat your own" phase is getting fun to watch.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/writer-leaves-lena-dunhams-lenny-letter-citing-hipster-racism/ar-BBFmAH6?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    …..but this whole SJW “eat your own” phase is getting fun to watch.

    I knew it would be good…..I had no idea just how good!

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  44. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Somewhat OT: Looks like Lena Dunham is next in line for the Red Guard. She's got the feminists and sistas pissed at her.

    I just don't have it in me to actually read about the details, but this whole SJW "eat your own" phase is getting fun to watch.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/writer-leaves-lena-dunhams-lenny-letter-citing-hipster-racism/ar-BBFmAH6?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    It’s not that fun if you read the details. A Cadmean victory, even for outsiders.

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    Why?

    It seems to be the usual SJW/BLM scramble to prove who is the greater victim. Actually, I think that this is great. As difficult as it is to say, Whiskey is right about the Nice White Lady crowd. And the only way for white women to wake up a bit is for them to realize that blacks and browns will never see them as the Nice White Lady, that blacks and browns dislike white women almost as much as they hate white men.

    White women think that they can have their cake and eat it too. Marry the nice white guy while still being the hero of blacks and browns. They're wrong, but it needs to be shoved in their face before they believe it. This type of attack is just what's needed to burst their bubble.
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  45. Truth says:
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    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby. Are we to believe that Black actors/directors are universally well-behaved? It sounds doubtful.

    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby.

    “Except” being the operative word there.

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  46. Truth says:
    @syonredux

    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,”a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs.”
     
    Dunno. It's been pretty well-established that wealthy Black men have a strong desire to trade-up, and the equation is quite simple: White/Whitish women > Black women.....Hence, peddling White flesh to Black men is a lucrative trade.....the aptly named Ratner knew what he was doing....

    Well, first of all, Sport, they’re not “women…”

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  47. Barnard says:

    OT: Maureen Dowd profiles Anne Wojcicki in the New York Times. Quote from her mother Esther on Anne dating Alex Rodriguez:

    “He came from a Hispanic family. We liked them, they were very sweet. He seemed to be genuinely in love with Anne. But I right away figured out this was a mismatch. He had no academic background. We couldn’t have an intellectual conversation about anything. His main interest in life was something that none of us had ever focused on, which was baseball. He could park himself in front of a TV and watch baseball for 10 hours a day. He wasn’t even sure he wanted to go on the yacht with Anne because the TV might not be working. I wish J-Lo all the luck in the world.

    I would have thought ARod had at least some interest in science, given the amount of scientific experimentation he did on his own body. Maybe he was just taking what people told him to take.

    I didn’t know Harvey Weinstein was an investor in 23andMe. Although she either has a strange sense of humor or a poor understanding of venture capital.

    I ask her if Harvey Weinstein, an early investor, is still involved.

    “Once an investor, always an investor. It’s like ‘Hotel California,’” she says.

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    Yeah, Maureen Dowd's article on the 23 and Me sister nicely fills in a lot of human interest stuff I brought up in August, without of course touching upon how her sister got James Damore fired for knowing about genes and stuff.
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  48. AnonAnon says:
    @anonguy

    He cooked his own goose by writing this, which guarantees that other female accusers will surface for fame or money. Even if the sex was consensual maybe this is not how these models feel today. Rattner was his procurer. His talent scout.
     
    Dude is definitely in trouble. Perfect timing on that book release, no?

    Anyhow, this is all good. For fifty years American culture has lionized promiscuity and that era is coming to a close. You guys can go on about Jews and Hollywood as usual, but you'd be focused on the trees rather than the forest, again as usual.

    So, yay, decorum is back. Why aren't all you guys deliriously happy?

    This is all part of that spiritual rebirth that is coming, actually in process, first stages here.

    “This is all part of that spiritual rebirth that is coming, actually in process, first stages here”

    I think you are correct. People are cord cutting, especially the young, and tv ratings and movie ticket sales are in decline. Sports attendance is down. My teenage boys watch essentially zero tv, including sports. They like to watch YouTube videos and the discussion quality is often a lot better than that on tv. My oldest and my niece are in their first year of college and they spend their weekend nights studying rather than partying, and have plenty of company. And it’s not like they were raised in Amish-like bubbles, they are choosing to reject popular culture as packaged by media/corporations/academia. Minimalism is in, designer labels out. Homemade, artisanal, and local grown/made is in. I lurk on the chan sites and many advocate to each other turning their back on tv/modern media, be wary of big pharma, not to watch porn, eating healthy and not fast/processed food, reading older (pre-pc) books, hobbies, exercising, going to church. (They honestly remind me of my mother/grandmother.) They advise each other to take up trades and not fall for the college indebtedness scam. Many of them have daily, intimate experience with “diversity” and don’t care for it. I really like a lot of the trends I see in the younger generation (except quite a few think socialism is good and the women are not as wised-up as the men yet) but it’s going to be a hell of a fight to turn the ship around.

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  49. notanon says:
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    But so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby. Are we to believe that Black actors/directors are universally well-behaved? It sounds doubtful.

    so far no Blacks have been purged except Cosby

    by its nature Hollywood will be a nexus for sexual crimes due to the combination of powerful men holding the key to fame and attractive women desperate for that fame however i’d imagine unless they had a particular perversion there will be fewer actors than producers/directors etc in the frame for non-consensual misbehavior cos actors are often chosen for looks so if there are fewer black producers / director types then i’d expect fewer black culprits.

    on the other hand, interesting photo

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  50. notanon says:

    if someone from group A hates group B and despises group C then getting men from group C to have sex with women from group B is a hate crime.

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  51. The thing about the Tinseltown Pogrom is that the press can’t point out that Jews are being ‘targettted’ because then everyone will draw conclusions about Jews. So it’s left to Samizdat sources.

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    https://twitter.com/AP/status/932743182303064064
    , @CJ
    Yowza, NPR and the NYT on the same day. I wouldn't have put Rose's name at the top of my list of suspects (a token goy!), but normal people wouldn't have lasted so long around NPR and the foundations. And, he's issued an apology/confession already. BTW I notice he's 75 years old. Media liberals just never go away.

    Glenn Thrush OTOH is one of the usual suspects in every way.

    , @fish
    See comment #43
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I'll bet that it is difficult to be a movie star/tv host/movie producer and not be tempted to diddle the help. And I am sure that more than a few of the help are quite willing to be diddled if it will help their careers. And some of those who were willingly diddled are now trying to restore their public virtue. And it is unfortunate that GW Bush's ass patting is now on a par with Bill Clinton's numerous rapes.

    But I can summon no sympathy for these rumpswabs because they have been lecturing us Deplorables for years and years about what racist, misogynist, homophobic POS we are.

    So f**k them and the horse they rode in on.

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  53. “Here’s a new article from the Los Angeles Times that helps explain why the old fogeys at the Los Angeles Country Club don’t let in showbiz folks like Simmons and Ratner”

    Ok, I had to make mention of this. I purposely decided to the next time Steve brought up how Hollywood folks aren’t permitted into LACC, the Hialieah of golf clubs apparently.

    According to Wikipedia, the western actor Randolph Scott was indeed a member of LACC. Now, to be fair, Scott also made tons of bucks in the oil, stock market, and real estate business. The point is, he was on the Alist in Hollywood, or at least was a major name there for several decades. And yet, Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

    I’m a little surprised that LACC would be that snobbish concerning allowing Hollywood folks to join. Shouldn’t it be on a situational case-by-case basis?

    Like, I would’ve assumed that LACC would’ve permitted Crosby (Pan-Am tourney) and Hope (Bob Hope Classic). Those two men took their golfing very, very seriously and supposedly were pretty decent golfers to boot.

    But Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

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    Randolph Scott … maybe one of his boyfriends put in a good word?
    , @Autochthon
    Please elaborate upon your analogy; Hialieah is a Hellish place for those unable to live with the cool kids in Miami Beach or Coral Gables...how's that analogous to the old money country club that spurns entertainers and their ilk...?
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  54. “I wasn’t actually aware that a son should serve as his father’s pimp, but you learn something new every day.”

    It’s good to keep learning, ’cause a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    “African-Americans, at least in Los Angeles, really don’t like the Spanish language.”

    How’s that a surprise? They don’t appear to like the English language either. Both English and Spanish are whitey’s words.

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  55. @Cagey Beast
    The SJW's black sedans just came for:

    1) Charlie Rose:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b

    2) Glenn Thrush:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

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  56. @syonredux
    Lena Dunham Reminds Everyone Why Women of Color Don’t Trust Her

    Lena Dunham is probably one of the most influential voices in feminism today. Sadly, her feminism has often ended up being painfully and dangerously white. This weekend, Dunham and Jenni Konner released a statement to The Hollywood Reporter, defending Girls writer Murray Miller against the allegation of assault made by actress Aurora Perrineau.
     

    A friend, a man she knew, was accused, and therefore Lena Dunham used her platform to publicly defend him and call Aurora Perrineau, a black woman, a liar.

    So, I have a question: How many times does Lena Dunham have to fail women of color before she actually begins to learn? Or more bluntly, how many times does Lena Dunham have to say and do racist sh[**] before white women stop defending her?
     

    We often talk about Taylor Swift and her white female victimhood, but Dunham has this quality in spades.
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/lena-dunham-women-of-color/

    Man, that is as who-whomiest as it gets.

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  57. @AndrewR
    I can't imagine considering calling someone only 11 years younger than I my "son." Protegé, little brother, even nephew, sure, but son is bizarre.

    Not as bizarre as the same son at age fifteen screwing his mama.

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    Gives a whole new meaning to "Who's your daddy?"
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  58. Whiskey says: • Website

    Dangerously White is a pretty good punk rock band name. Interesting how White has become a casual insult.

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    Relax Whiskey….now we get to be the subversives!
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  59. ia says:
    @Alfa158
    I don't think anyone here can be described as wallowing in this s**t. What these articles are doing is pointing out that this s**t is the people who rule our culture, and if we want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, then we all need to agree to stop letting this s**t rule us. Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It's part of trying to save yourself from it.

    Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It’s part of trying to save yourself from it.

    That’s a strange way to view culture. Millions of people may eat at McDonalds but that doesn’t make it good food. Why such a negative association with culture? I’d think you’d want to acquire a taste for quality and stop eating stuff that’s bad for you.

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    The point was that one has to examine a problem before fixing it.
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  60. CJ says:
    @Cagey Beast
    The SJW's black sedans just came for:

    1) Charlie Rose:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b

    2) Glenn Thrush:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

    Yowza, NPR and the NYT on the same day. I wouldn’t have put Rose’s name at the top of my list of suspects (a token goy!), but normal people wouldn’t have lasted so long around NPR and the foundations. And, he’s issued an apology/confession already. BTW I notice he’s 75 years old. Media liberals just never go away.

    Glenn Thrush OTOH is one of the usual suspects in every way.

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    Charlie Rose would have to be about as well-connected as a person can get in this world. If he's left hanging after one news story then anyone can be taken down now. I just wish they'd hurry up and recognize this is a game of mutually assured destruction. Unfortunately, it's now in the hands of the Lady Leviathan that is click-bait and social media.
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    @Truth
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=christucker.htm

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=jackiechan.htm

    In his 45-year career, Jackie Chan has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars in North America; the three Rush Hour films, and "The Karate Kid" (with Jalen Smith). So I guess someone sees Chris Tucker's talent.

    As your link shows, Tucker also has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars domestically, and 3 of them have been with Chan. Moreover, most of Chan’s movies have been Hong Kong movies, while Tucker has exclusively been in Hollywood movies. Chan has only been in around 10 live action Hollywood movies. Chan also has had a much larger worldwide gross than Tucker has. The Rush Hour movies were a waste of Chan’s talent back when he was still young enough to make real action movies.

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    Chris Tucker has made 12 movies. Jackie Chan has made 31 since 1980.
    , @Anonymous
    So he's made about the same number of Hollywood movies as Chan has, and they both have had 4 movies gross over $100m domestically, 3 of which they starred in together. I'm not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan's talent when he was aging out of his abilities.
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  62. Jack D says:

    Mostly Jews up until now but the witch hunt is far from done. Today’s target – Charlie Rose . And no, he’s not one bit Jewish. Rose is not shortened from Rosenberg or anything like that. He’s a good old boy from a N. Carolina tobacco farm.

    Rose was either very aware of the legal implications or genuinely concerned about entering only into consensual relationships based upon the accounts that have come out but at this point, I don’t know how it would be possible at all (and maybe that is really the point) for a man to enter into even a consensual relationship with a co-worker, especially a subordinate. In big corporations and universities there are ethics rules nowadays that prohibit most such relationships but Rose ran his production company as his own privately owned small business and was bound by no such rules. There is nothing illegal about having consensual relationships with your employees. Rose was divorced. Even in our super-liberated society, men are expected to make the 1st move. Sometime the woman responds and sometimes she lets the man know that she is not interested but unless the man tries to make the 1st move then nothing is going to happen. Even women who WANT to enter into a relationship usually (though not 100% of the time) wait for the man to make the 1st move. I’m sure there are some women who would LOVE to have a relationship with Charlie Rose where he wines and dines them and takes them to dinner with famous people AND they have a sexual relationship AND Charlie also pays them for their professional work – to some women this would sound like a great opportunity.

    In other words, goal posts on the witch hunt are being moved on us. At the beginning, the narrative was that Harvey Weinstein was forcing himself, in fact literally raping, employees or women looking for employment (as staff or actresses) with his production company. Very few people are in favor of rape so it wasn’t hard to hate on Harvey. But now, what seems to be at stake is the modern libertine or playboy lifestyle itself – even IF the women consent, according to the new standard, then men shouldn’t even be TRYING to get in the pants of their co-workers. Morally this is may be right, but remember that the people saying this are also in favor of sodomy and late term abortion and all sorts of immoral things so I doubt morality has anything to do with their position. So maybe this is coming from women who don’t want that kind of competition because the boss would never be interested in getting in their pants because they are so fat/ugly. They would like the world remade in such a way that their fatness/ugliness puts them at no disadvantage in the job market.

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    Limbaugh cited his own law of the universe (of which Steve's own law of female journalism is a corallary) in commentary on Rose today: Feminism is a gimmick to make life easier on unattractive and masculine women.
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  63. whorefinder says: • Website
    @hello
    I once listened to a podcast featuring Russell Simmons. It struck me that he was the first black man I had ever heard who talked like a stereotypical New York Jew.

    It doesn’t surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks—he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to “wow” women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods’s texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn’t become Tiger Woods, world’s most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”. After that, Simmons used his new “authentic’” blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that–KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls “had” to come to some “hot” club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

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    Michael Jordan gave a shy Tiger Woods the following advice on how to talk to girls in clubs: "Go up to one and say, 'Hi, I'm Tiger Woods.'"
    , @Truth

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”.
     
    I find that quite hard to believe considering that Simmons is the older brother to the gentleman below without glasses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMJZHrG_94
    , @Dave Pinsen

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).
     
    Kate Hudson later married the front man of Muse, Matt Bellamy, who's arguably the best combo of lead singer/lead guitarist in rock today.
    https://youtu.be/XCUZSS54drI
    , @duncsbaby
    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that–KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).

    I'm not gonna call you a liar, but I will say you are not zealously fact-checking some of your tales out of school. The Black Crowes first four albums, the ones that made them rich and famous, were released on Def American, Rubin's record label. Perhaps their relationship w/Rubin was not altogether serene but their career as a rock band was under his leadership for a good part of the 90's.

    , @Clyde

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”. After that, Simmons used his new “authentic’” blackness to start bringing acts in the door.
     
    Sounds true to me. His father and mother had great NYC govt jobs. Wikipedia says this. RS grew up too middle class. His name indicates one or both parents are from Caribbean. Perhaps they shielded him from "the street" so Rick Rubin had to show him how to act blacker. Like no penny loafers
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  64. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    So, Glenn Thrush and Charlie Rose…

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  65. fish says:
    @Cagey Beast
    The SJW's black sedans just came for:

    1) Charlie Rose:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b

    2) Glenn Thrush:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

    See comment #43

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  66. fish says:
    @Whiskey
    Dangerously White is a pretty good punk rock band name. Interesting how White has become a casual insult.

    Relax Whiskey….now we get to be the subversives!

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    ROTFL.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them–with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm

    If this keeps up, it’ll just be seen as the New Norm. Shock Value will have worn off.

    PS. Maybe men should turn the tables. They should call out on women who seduced them, tempted them, and even groped them. I’m sure there was a lot of that too. And women who seduce married men are surely lowdown.. like Ali Hirsi who stole Niall Ferguson from wife and kids.

    I mean these guys are pretty wild, but these women are skanks too. That woman who bitched about Franken.. her whole career was about being a skank.

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    Steve has commented before about how certain public figures seem to have lots of energy, to the point of being manic. If these allegations are true, I think Rose would be another such figure. He's been doing long interviews with people, most of them insufferable bores, almost everyday for decades, along with doing other shows and correspondent work. He's also had a couple heart surgeries. And all the while, if the allegations are true, he's been lewdly hounding women in his 70s.

    Rose seems to be reserved, but he may be a Southern horndog in the mold of Bill Clinton.
    , @Anon
    Are they taking bets on this in Vegas?

    Who's next?

    Zakaria?
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  68. @CJ
    Yowza, NPR and the NYT on the same day. I wouldn't have put Rose's name at the top of my list of suspects (a token goy!), but normal people wouldn't have lasted so long around NPR and the foundations. And, he's issued an apology/confession already. BTW I notice he's 75 years old. Media liberals just never go away.

    Glenn Thrush OTOH is one of the usual suspects in every way.

    Charlie Rose would have to be about as well-connected as a person can get in this world. If he’s left hanging after one news story then anyone can be taken down now. I just wish they’d hurry up and recognize this is a game of mutually assured destruction. Unfortunately, it’s now in the hands of the Lady Leviathan that is click-bait and social media.

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  69. @whorefinder
    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

    Michael Jordan gave a shy Tiger Woods the following advice on how to talk to girls in clubs: “Go up to one and say, ‘Hi, I’m Tiger Woods.’”

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    Many of the recent rape allegations against college and pro athletes might be best explained by the famous jocks becoming used to the idea that merely saying hi and shaking hands are all that is necessary for them to get laid---that many women simply get weak in the knees at their mere presence and allow the men to do whatever they want.

    Then said jocks run into the few women who aren't total groupies who require a little more romancing, but the jocks just assumes they're acting slightly demure but are eager to get in the sackand just act as caveman as usual.

    Or the non-groupies are canny golddiggers/fameseekers who know the jocks are used to very easy scores and deliberately lead them on into thinking they're like that, only to reverse course when they can score either a lawsuit or some press conference.

    The complications ensue from the unspoken gray area of sexual relations that used to be much better regulated by society. If a woman was alone with a man, in an apartment or hotel room or bedroom, it was assumed she was either his wife or relative, and if neither of those, a woman of easy virtue.

    Good women were taught not to get in those situations, and not so good women were taught if they got into those situations they were acquiescing to sexual advances. Men, meanwhile, were taught the same: don't get sleep with a girl unless you're married to her, most girls won't go back to your room with you, and if she comes back to your room with you alone, she's acquiescing to sex.

    It was a pretty good system that kept the lines of rape and assault pretty clear in the messy world of human mating. Sadly, feminism/cultural marxism removed those lines completely, creating a lot of confusion/frustration in men and a lot of frustration/conniving/"victimhood" in women. Feminist men are learning that the lack of bright lines is a detriment even to them.
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  70. @Barnard
    OT: Maureen Dowd profiles Anne Wojcicki in the New York Times. Quote from her mother Esther on Anne dating Alex Rodriguez:

    “He came from a Hispanic family. We liked them, they were very sweet. He seemed to be genuinely in love with Anne. But I right away figured out this was a mismatch. He had no academic background. We couldn’t have an intellectual conversation about anything. His main interest in life was something that none of us had ever focused on, which was baseball. He could park himself in front of a TV and watch baseball for 10 hours a day. He wasn’t even sure he wanted to go on the yacht with Anne because the TV might not be working. I wish J-Lo all the luck in the world.
     
    I would have thought ARod had at least some interest in science, given the amount of scientific experimentation he did on his own body. Maybe he was just taking what people told him to take.

    I didn't know Harvey Weinstein was an investor in 23andMe. Although she either has a strange sense of humor or a poor understanding of venture capital.

    I ask her if Harvey Weinstein, an early investor, is still involved.

    “Once an investor, always an investor. It’s like ‘Hotel California,’” she says.
     

    Yeah, Maureen Dowd’s article on the 23 and Me sister nicely fills in a lot of human interest stuff I brought up in August, without of course touching upon how her sister got James Damore fired for knowing about genes and stuff.

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  71. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Michael Jordan gave a shy Tiger Woods the following advice on how to talk to girls in clubs: "Go up to one and say, 'Hi, I'm Tiger Woods.'"

    Many of the recent rape allegations against college and pro athletes might be best explained by the famous jocks becoming used to the idea that merely saying hi and shaking hands are all that is necessary for them to get laid—that many women simply get weak in the knees at their mere presence and allow the men to do whatever they want.

    Then said jocks run into the few women who aren’t total groupies who require a little more romancing, but the jocks just assumes they’re acting slightly demure but are eager to get in the sackand just act as caveman as usual.

    Or the non-groupies are canny golddiggers/fameseekers who know the jocks are used to very easy scores and deliberately lead them on into thinking they’re like that, only to reverse course when they can score either a lawsuit or some press conference.

    The complications ensue from the unspoken gray area of sexual relations that used to be much better regulated by society. If a woman was alone with a man, in an apartment or hotel room or bedroom, it was assumed she was either his wife or relative, and if neither of those, a woman of easy virtue.

    Good women were taught not to get in those situations, and not so good women were taught if they got into those situations they were acquiescing to sexual advances. Men, meanwhile, were taught the same: don’t get sleep with a girl unless you’re married to her, most girls won’t go back to your room with you, and if she comes back to your room with you alone, she’s acquiescing to sex.

    It was a pretty good system that kept the lines of rape and assault pretty clear in the messy world of human mating. Sadly, feminism/cultural marxism removed those lines completely, creating a lot of confusion/frustration in men and a lot of frustration/conniving/”victimhood” in women. Feminist men are learning that the lack of bright lines is a detriment even to them.

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  72. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Not as bizarre as the same son at age fifteen screwing his mama.

    Gives a whole new meaning to “Who’s your daddy?”

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  73. Redman says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "Simply depraved."
     
    Agree.

    "These creatures, their output and equally trashy personal lives are nothing to me, other than grist for Mr. Sailer’s mill. ... If you want to live in a better country with a cleaner conscience, stop wallowing in this s**t."
     
    Disagree. Like it or not, the wallowing is already happening, voluntarily or involuntarily. One can't enter a commercial establishment, encounter broadcast media or even converse with most fellow citizens without getting at least winged by this stuff. And for a large part of the population, especially the young (i.e. future) population, this is a staple of their cultural diet. Whether or not you are fortunate enough to be able to live in some kind of isolation that 99% of the rest of us are not, ignoring this stuff won't make it go away. Rather the reverse.

    Agree. It also helps to stay present to point out some of the hypocrisy from time to time. The culture is utterly debased, yet the left (or maybe just the feminist left) wants to pretend that we live in the Victorian era.

    Every 10 years or so, women release a primal scream, and rage against being treated like sexual objects. Which prompts an immediate backlash of “never mind.” Maybe it’s not so bad to be sexual objects after all. Keeps the culture on its toes.

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    Women want to be able to claim assault when they don't like the attention and yet have men they find attractive do it to them and giggle when it happens.

    In other words, women want to have their cake and eat it, too. No surprise; if you've taken the red pill on women, you know that this hypocritical, contradictory "have it both ways" mentality is their nature. In the female world, "objective reality" must give way to whatever they "feelz."

    I tried to find the famous Tom Brady-SNL sketch on sexual harassment that applies here, but it looks like NBC took it down----probably too many people were trying to link to it these days, and looks really bad on the Left, because it's pretty red pilled. They also took down the copycat Don Draper-SNL sexual harassment skit that came out a few years later. Seems like the corporate powers-that-be are 1984-ing their history again.
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    When did a scream on this level happen the last time?
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  74. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    ROTFL.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm

    If this keeps up, it'll just be seen as the New Norm. Shock Value will have worn off.

    PS. Maybe men should turn the tables. They should call out on women who seduced them, tempted them, and even groped them. I'm sure there was a lot of that too. And women who seduce married men are surely lowdown.. like Ali Hirsi who stole Niall Ferguson from wife and kids.

    I mean these guys are pretty wild, but these women are skanks too. That woman who bitched about Franken.. her whole career was about being a skank.

    Steve has commented before about how certain public figures seem to have lots of energy, to the point of being manic. If these allegations are true, I think Rose would be another such figure. He’s been doing long interviews with people, most of them insufferable bores, almost everyday for decades, along with doing other shows and correspondent work. He’s also had a couple heart surgeries. And all the while, if the allegations are true, he’s been lewdly hounding women in his 70s.

    Rose seems to be reserved, but he may be a Southern horndog in the mold of Bill Clinton.

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    Maybe it's a delayed kind of middle age crisis. These days, it seems 60 or even 70 is the new 40. I mean, does Clinton realize he is an old man?

    When Rose was younger, he didn't have to worry about women. He was famous, successful. And he could easily gain access to womenfolk.

    But as he grew older, his looks faded and he no longer had the edge. It's like the sad spectacle of Warren Beatty trying to stay hip and relevant.

    Maybe a desperation seeps in. One gets older but one is addicted to the success of younger days and never wants to let it go. But women aren't so easily available anymore, so there has to be more effort to be in the game. Like the desperation in LAST TANGO IN PARIS.
    But you see it among women too, as with Norma Desmond in SUNSET BOULEVARD. She wants to believe she is still glamorous and irresistible. She uses the younger man and even kills him. (In LAST TANGO, the young girl shoots the older man.)

    There comes a time when a man must accept his age. But it's not easy for some, especially those who were in the game in the height of youth.
    It's the theme of THE SWIMMER, the Lancaster movie.
    And the semi-autobiographical ARRANGEMENT by Elia Kazan. Kazan was no looker but he had fame and prestige, and he got the girls. But he faded too.

    In some cases, however, the sudden rush of boingness seems to a reaction to prior repression. Like in the movie AMERICAN PASTORAL. Jennifer Connelly plays this beautiful woman who gave up her career as beauty queen to be wife and mother. And she wanted to be a good wife and mom. And she is deeply hurt by her daughter's spiral into lunacy. But in some ways, she feels liberated by it. The obvious failure in family life means she can just abandon her responsibilities. What does it matter anymore when things got so bad? And this gives her the opportunity to be a swinger and live the life she could have had as a glamor queen. And it's her last chance since she's facing middle age.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ViEZtHso0
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  75. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    ROTFL.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm

    If this keeps up, it'll just be seen as the New Norm. Shock Value will have worn off.

    PS. Maybe men should turn the tables. They should call out on women who seduced them, tempted them, and even groped them. I'm sure there was a lot of that too. And women who seduce married men are surely lowdown.. like Ali Hirsi who stole Niall Ferguson from wife and kids.

    I mean these guys are pretty wild, but these women are skanks too. That woman who bitched about Franken.. her whole career was about being a skank.

    Are they taking bets on this in Vegas?

    Who’s next?

    Zakaria?

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  76. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    As your link shows, Tucker also has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars domestically, and 3 of them have been with Chan. Moreover, most of Chan's movies have been Hong Kong movies, while Tucker has exclusively been in Hollywood movies. Chan has only been in around 10 live action Hollywood movies. Chan also has had a much larger worldwide gross than Tucker has. The Rush Hour movies were a waste of Chan's talent back when he was still young enough to make real action movies.

    Chris Tucker has made 12 movies. Jackie Chan has made 31 since 1980.

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    Chris Tucker doesn't make many movies. I don't know why.
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  77. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    You are incorrect Sir.

    It actually equalls,”a pretty, multiracial, somewhat white, coterie of Enuchs.”
     
    Dunno. It's been pretty well-established that wealthy Black men have a strong desire to trade-up, and the equation is quite simple: White/Whitish women > Black women.....Hence, peddling White flesh to Black men is a lucrative trade.....the aptly named Ratner knew what he was doing....

    Simmons has been rumored to be gay or on the down low for years. It’s not inconceivable that Ratner may have supplied him with male models or twinks, either exclusively or in addition to female models.

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  78. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Redman
    Agree. It also helps to stay present to point out some of the hypocrisy from time to time. The culture is utterly debased, yet the left (or maybe just the feminist left) wants to pretend that we live in the Victorian era.

    Every 10 years or so, women release a primal scream, and rage against being treated like sexual objects. Which prompts an immediate backlash of “never mind.” Maybe it’s not so bad to be sexual objects after all. Keeps the culture on its toes.

    Women want to be able to claim assault when they don’t like the attention and yet have men they find attractive do it to them and giggle when it happens.

    In other words, women want to have their cake and eat it, too. No surprise; if you’ve taken the red pill on women, you know that this hypocritical, contradictory “have it both ways” mentality is their nature. In the female world, “objective reality” must give way to whatever they “feelz.”

    I tried to find the famous Tom Brady-SNL sketch on sexual harassment that applies here, but it looks like NBC took it down—-probably too many people were trying to link to it these days, and looks really bad on the Left, because it’s pretty red pilled. They also took down the copycat Don Draper-SNL sexual harassment skit that came out a few years later. Seems like the corporate powers-that-be are 1984-ing their history again.

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  79. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”.

    I find that quite hard to believe considering that Simmons is the older brother to the gentleman below without glasses.

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    Yeah, if you believe that pop musicians are the images they project to sell records, you really should hit me up, I got a bridge I want to sell you.

    Anyway, here's the word from Rubin himself: ""Russell [Simmons]'s uniform in those days was like what a substitute teacher wears — like, a tweed jacket with arm patches. He wore penny-loafer shoes. I think, at the time, he wanted to give off the air of, uh, professionalism,"

    https://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2014/10/14/rick-rubin-explains-how-def-jam-style-inspired-fashion.html
    , @Clyde
    Both grew up in Queens but Russell Simmons had a very nice middle class upbringing. Check out wiki for the jobs his parents had. In contrast to 50 cent who was raised in the Queens projects. It's obvious who has the blackitude and who had to be shown the ropes by the white man.

    Simmons - Only black man named Russell anyways

    wiki
    Simmons was born and raised in Queens, New York.[4] His father is a public school administrator and his mother is a New York City park administrator.
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  80. Svigor says:

    Charlie Rose is down! Repeat, Charlie Rose has been hit!

    If this keeps up, there’s gonna be a mob of Big Media celebrities chasing Sweinstein with torches and pitchforks. “You ruined everything! Reeeeeee!”

    The Weinstein Thing just keeps on giving!

    [rap mogul Russell] Simmons and filmmaker James Toback

    These men and other older, controversial Hollywood friends — including producer Robert Evans and filmmaker Roman Polanski — have served as father figures to Ratner

    Ratner sounds like a swell guy.

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  81. @Truth
    Chris Tucker has made 12 movies. Jackie Chan has made 31 since 1980.

    Chris Tucker doesn’t make many movies. I don’t know why.

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    He is areophobic and goes everywhere on a bus, so leaving the country is out of the question, and has made no secret of the fact the he doesn't like making movies and only bdoes a Rush Hour, every few years, when he needs money.
    , @whorefinder
    Drugs? A desire to take the money and run? Secretly gay and just wants to hang with his bf?

    I remember Tucker being asked that once and his basically saying he deliberately took time off. He made $20 million off one of his Rush Hour roles, and if he didn't blow it like most black guys do he'd be fine to take it slow.

    Tucker was the most memorable thing about Friday, and did a very funny turn as a cowardly, effeminate (but not gay) radio personality in The Fifth Element. So Rush Hour wasn't just a one-off good job by him.

    His annoying, high-pitched voice and style seem best suited to supporting character roles, as a little bit of Tucker goes a long way. Then again, critics early on pegged Adam Sandler as a permanent-supporting-role type of comedic actor, but he's proved them wrong by becoming a megastar in films critics and cool people hate but audiences adore and can't get enough of.

    He hung out a lot with Michael Jackson, so maybe he's just a weirdo recluse type.
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  82. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    As your link shows, Tucker also has had exactly 4 live action movies that crossed 100 million dollars domestically, and 3 of them have been with Chan. Moreover, most of Chan's movies have been Hong Kong movies, while Tucker has exclusively been in Hollywood movies. Chan has only been in around 10 live action Hollywood movies. Chan also has had a much larger worldwide gross than Tucker has. The Rush Hour movies were a waste of Chan's talent back when he was still young enough to make real action movies.

    So he’s made about the same number of Hollywood movies as Chan has, and they both have had 4 movies gross over $100m domestically, 3 of which they starred in together. I’m not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan’s talent when he was aging out of his abilities.

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    I’m not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan’s talent when he was aging out of his abilities.
     
    Wasted? Chan was both trying to establish himself in the U.S. market after his 1990s Rumble In The Bronx was a hit but his star power here petered out after that. Rush Hour and the similar Shanghai Noon (around the same time) did that.

    What's more, Chan was getting older and injuries were catching up to him. Rush Hour was a good vehicle for Chan to show off some of his chops while also not forcing him to the heights of stunts he did in his younger day, and bring him back to the U.S. market with a big-budget, well-promoted, well-done film. Rush Hour gave us some good Chan while also protecting his weaknesses (bad with English, slowing stunt skills, big-in-the-far-east-but-unknown-here metacommentary).

    I'd love Chan to show off his physical skills like he did in his prime, but even Charlie Chaplin put away the Little Tramp after aging and did Limelight.
    , @Truth
    Well now, he made cinematic masterpeices with Owen Wilson, George Lopez, Jet Li; going all the way back to 1985 with Danny Aello and 1980 with Jose Ferrer and they were bombs in the US. The three Rush Hour films were runaway smashes, therefore it seems that your opinion is in the negligible minority.
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  83. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Truth

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”.
     
    I find that quite hard to believe considering that Simmons is the older brother to the gentleman below without glasses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMJZHrG_94

    Yeah, if you believe that pop musicians are the images they project to sell records, you really should hit me up, I got a bridge I want to sell you.

    Anyway, here’s the word from Rubin himself: “”Russell [Simmons]‘s uniform in those days was like what a substitute teacher wears — like, a tweed jacket with arm patches. He wore penny-loafer shoes. I think, at the time, he wanted to give off the air of, uh, professionalism,”

    https://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2014/10/14/rick-rubin-explains-how-def-jam-style-inspired-fashion.html

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    So you're ridiculing me for believing the image a pop musician is trying to sell me, for my naivete in other words, but for some unknown reason, you believe that a wealthy 18-year old Jewish punk rocker from an upscale beach town in Long Island, that TODAY, THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER, is a whopping %6 black...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach,_New_York

    ...who released this record a year before he met Simmons...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mT9_E4LuA

    ...Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to "act black." You truly believe this?

    I don't know why I even wasted 5 minutes on this, but since you love quotes so much, here you go:

    Rubin: Russell and I met at a party for a TV show called "Graffiti Rock." It was a pilot episode and Run DMC appeared on it and the Treacherous 3 appeared on it and it was in a loft somewhere on the West Side in the teens. But I remember being really excited when I met him because, as a fan of hip-hop, he had already — you know his name on a lot of the rap records that already came out — Kurtis Blow, Run DMC —

    [Russell] was five years older than me, and he was already established in the music business. And I had no experience whatsoever. So even then he was the face of hip hop, even before Def Jam he was the face of hip hop. It's true! If you had a club and you wanted to hire a hip hop artist, you called Russell and he would get you a hip hop artist. Or if you were a record company and there was a hip hop artist you were interested in signing, you'd call Russell, because he was the center of hip hop from before me, before we ever met.
     
    https://www.npr.org/2011/10/09/141181876/rick-rubin-russell-simmons-def-jams-first-25-years
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  84. @Redman
    Agree. It also helps to stay present to point out some of the hypocrisy from time to time. The culture is utterly debased, yet the left (or maybe just the feminist left) wants to pretend that we live in the Victorian era.

    Every 10 years or so, women release a primal scream, and rage against being treated like sexual objects. Which prompts an immediate backlash of “never mind.” Maybe it’s not so bad to be sexual objects after all. Keeps the culture on its toes.

    When did a scream on this level happen the last time?

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  85. Truth says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Chris Tucker doesn't make many movies. I don't know why.

    He is areophobic and goes everywhere on a bus, so leaving the country is out of the question, and has made no secret of the fact the he doesn’t like making movies and only bdoes a Rush Hour, every few years, when he needs money.

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    So he’s lazy.
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  86. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Chris Tucker doesn't make many movies. I don't know why.

    Drugs? A desire to take the money and run? Secretly gay and just wants to hang with his bf?

    I remember Tucker being asked that once and his basically saying he deliberately took time off. He made $20 million off one of his Rush Hour roles, and if he didn’t blow it like most black guys do he’d be fine to take it slow.

    Tucker was the most memorable thing about Friday, and did a very funny turn as a cowardly, effeminate (but not gay) radio personality in The Fifth Element. So Rush Hour wasn’t just a one-off good job by him.

    His annoying, high-pitched voice and style seem best suited to supporting character roles, as a little bit of Tucker goes a long way. Then again, critics early on pegged Adam Sandler as a permanent-supporting-role type of comedic actor, but he’s proved them wrong by becoming a megastar in films critics and cool people hate but audiences adore and can’t get enough of.

    He hung out a lot with Michael Jackson, so maybe he’s just a weirdo recluse type.

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  87. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    So he's made about the same number of Hollywood movies as Chan has, and they both have had 4 movies gross over $100m domestically, 3 of which they starred in together. I'm not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan's talent when he was aging out of his abilities.

    I’m not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan’s talent when he was aging out of his abilities.

    Wasted? Chan was both trying to establish himself in the U.S. market after his 1990s Rumble In The Bronx was a hit but his star power here petered out after that. Rush Hour and the similar Shanghai Noon (around the same time) did that.

    What’s more, Chan was getting older and injuries were catching up to him. Rush Hour was a good vehicle for Chan to show off some of his chops while also not forcing him to the heights of stunts he did in his younger day, and bring him back to the U.S. market with a big-budget, well-promoted, well-done film. Rush Hour gave us some good Chan while also protecting his weaknesses (bad with English, slowing stunt skills, big-in-the-far-east-but-unknown-here metacommentary).

    I’d love Chan to show off his physical skills like he did in his prime, but even Charlie Chaplin put away the Little Tramp after aging and did Limelight.

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  88. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Steve has commented before about how certain public figures seem to have lots of energy, to the point of being manic. If these allegations are true, I think Rose would be another such figure. He's been doing long interviews with people, most of them insufferable bores, almost everyday for decades, along with doing other shows and correspondent work. He's also had a couple heart surgeries. And all the while, if the allegations are true, he's been lewdly hounding women in his 70s.

    Rose seems to be reserved, but he may be a Southern horndog in the mold of Bill Clinton.

    Maybe it’s a delayed kind of middle age crisis. These days, it seems 60 or even 70 is the new 40. I mean, does Clinton realize he is an old man?

    When Rose was younger, he didn’t have to worry about women. He was famous, successful. And he could easily gain access to womenfolk.

    But as he grew older, his looks faded and he no longer had the edge. It’s like the sad spectacle of Warren Beatty trying to stay hip and relevant.

    Maybe a desperation seeps in. One gets older but one is addicted to the success of younger days and never wants to let it go. But women aren’t so easily available anymore, so there has to be more effort to be in the game. Like the desperation in LAST TANGO IN PARIS.
    But you see it among women too, as with Norma Desmond in SUNSET BOULEVARD. She wants to believe she is still glamorous and irresistible. She uses the younger man and even kills him. (In LAST TANGO, the young girl shoots the older man.)

    There comes a time when a man must accept his age. But it’s not easy for some, especially those who were in the game in the height of youth.
    It’s the theme of THE SWIMMER, the Lancaster movie.
    And the semi-autobiographical ARRANGEMENT by Elia Kazan. Kazan was no looker but he had fame and prestige, and he got the girls. But he faded too.

    In some cases, however, the sudden rush of boingness seems to a reaction to prior repression. Like in the movie AMERICAN PASTORAL. Jennifer Connelly plays this beautiful woman who gave up her career as beauty queen to be wife and mother. And she wanted to be a good wife and mom. And she is deeply hurt by her daughter’s spiral into lunacy. But in some ways, she feels liberated by it. The obvious failure in family life means she can just abandon her responsibilities. What does it matter anymore when things got so bad? And this gives her the opportunity to be a swinger and live the life she could have had as a glamor queen. And it’s her last chance since she’s facing middle age.

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  89. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Somewhat OT: Looks like Lena Dunham is next in line for the Red Guard. She's got the feminists and sistas pissed at her.

    I just don't have it in me to actually read about the details, but this whole SJW "eat your own" phase is getting fun to watch.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/writer-leaves-lena-dunhams-lenny-letter-citing-hipster-racism/ar-BBFmAH6?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I just don’t have it in me to actually read about the details, …

    I’d be petrified that there might be pics.

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    Ha. That's actually the main reason that I didn't read the story. Granted, I wasn't much interest, but it was the fear of multiple photos of Dunham that kept me from clicking the link.
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  90. @AnotherGuessModel
    It's not that fun if you read the details. A Cadmean victory, even for outsiders.

    Why?

    It seems to be the usual SJW/BLM scramble to prove who is the greater victim. Actually, I think that this is great. As difficult as it is to say, Whiskey is right about the Nice White Lady crowd. And the only way for white women to wake up a bit is for them to realize that blacks and browns will never see them as the Nice White Lady, that blacks and browns dislike white women almost as much as they hate white men.

    White women think that they can have their cake and eat it too. Marry the nice white guy while still being the hero of blacks and browns. They’re wrong, but it needs to be shoved in their face before they believe it. This type of attack is just what’s needed to burst their bubble.

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    The issue of race conflict is incidental to my worries. Not only did Lena Dunham double down on her extremist "Believe Survivors" stance when her friend was accused of rape, instead of developing a conscience, but hordes of people are bashing her as a rape apologist and racist because she very briefly defended him. The radicals aren't just eating their own, as we are not insulated from their harm. What if you defended a friend and co-worker who was accused of rape? What if you are simply against "listen and believe", and pro evidence and corroboration? The accused already don't stand a chance socially in this climate, and now people are emboldened to destroy skeptical bystanders too. I feel schadenfreude for Lena Dunham, but other than that, watching this unfold is not fun at all.
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  91. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    I just don’t have it in me to actually read about the details, ...

    I'd be petrified that there might be pics.

    Ha. That’s actually the main reason that I didn’t read the story. Granted, I wasn’t much interest, but it was the fear of multiple photos of Dunham that kept me from clicking the link.

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    "Whiskey is right about the Nice White Lady crowd. And the only way for white women to wake up a bit is for them to realize that blacks and browns will never see them as the Nice White Lady, that blacks and browns dislike white women almost as much as they hate white men."

    Whiskey is offering his opinion, which is not necessarily an absolute truism or even factual in nature. When a person uses a term such as "never", all it takes is one example by which "blacks" and "browns" look at white ladies as being "nice". So when we see that there are interracial relationships in our nation today, your assertion fails miserably.
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  92. @Roderick Spode

    Aurora Perrineau, a black woman
     
    Haha. Could have fooled me.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/11/18/09/aurora-perrineau.jpg

    "Let them fight."

    The nose knows.

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  93. bomag says:
    @ia

    Getting chemotherapy for your cancer is not wallowing in your cancer. It’s part of trying to save yourself from it.
     
    That's a strange way to view culture. Millions of people may eat at McDonalds but that doesn't make it good food. Why such a negative association with culture? I'd think you'd want to acquire a taste for quality and stop eating stuff that's bad for you.

    The point was that one has to examine a problem before fixing it.

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    Eating garbage isn't examining anything. It's eating garbage.
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  94. @whorefinder
    Women want to be able to claim assault when they don't like the attention and yet have men they find attractive do it to them and giggle when it happens.

    In other words, women want to have their cake and eat it, too. No surprise; if you've taken the red pill on women, you know that this hypocritical, contradictory "have it both ways" mentality is their nature. In the female world, "objective reality" must give way to whatever they "feelz."

    I tried to find the famous Tom Brady-SNL sketch on sexual harassment that applies here, but it looks like NBC took it down----probably too many people were trying to link to it these days, and looks really bad on the Left, because it's pretty red pilled. They also took down the copycat Don Draper-SNL sexual harassment skit that came out a few years later. Seems like the corporate powers-that-be are 1984-ing their history again.
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  95. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    So he's made about the same number of Hollywood movies as Chan has, and they both have had 4 movies gross over $100m domestically, 3 of which they starred in together. I'm not sure how this is relevant to the fact that the Rush Hour movies wasted Chan's talent when he was aging out of his abilities.

    Well now, he made cinematic masterpeices with Owen Wilson, George Lopez, Jet Li; going all the way back to 1985 with Danny Aello and 1980 with Jose Ferrer and they were bombs in the US. The three Rush Hour films were runaway smashes, therefore it seems that your opinion is in the negligible minority.

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    His movies with Aiello and Ferrer were Hong Kong movies, not Hollywood produced.
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  96. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    Yeah, if you believe that pop musicians are the images they project to sell records, you really should hit me up, I got a bridge I want to sell you.

    Anyway, here's the word from Rubin himself: ""Russell [Simmons]'s uniform in those days was like what a substitute teacher wears — like, a tweed jacket with arm patches. He wore penny-loafer shoes. I think, at the time, he wanted to give off the air of, uh, professionalism,"

    https://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2014/10/14/rick-rubin-explains-how-def-jam-style-inspired-fashion.html

    So you’re ridiculing me for believing the image a pop musician is trying to sell me, for my naivete in other words, but for some unknown reason, you believe that a wealthy 18-year old Jewish punk rocker from an upscale beach town in Long Island, that TODAY, THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER, is a whopping %6 black…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach,_New_York

    …who released this record a year before he met Simmons…

    …Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to “act black.” You truly believe this?

    I don’t know why I even wasted 5 minutes on this, but since you love quotes so much, here you go:

    Rubin: Russell and I met at a party for a TV show called “Graffiti Rock.” It was a pilot episode and Run DMC appeared on it and the Treacherous 3 appeared on it and it was in a loft somewhere on the West Side in the teens. But I remember being really excited when I met him because, as a fan of hip-hop, he had already — you know his name on a lot of the rap records that already came out — Kurtis Blow, Run DMC —

    [Russell] was five years older than me, and he was already established in the music business. And I had no experience whatsoever. So even then he was the face of hip hop, even before Def Jam he was the face of hip hop. It’s true! If you had a club and you wanted to hire a hip hop artist, you called Russell and he would get you a hip hop artist. Or if you were a record company and there was a hip hop artist you were interested in signing, you’d call Russell, because he was the center of hip hop from before me, before we ever met.

    https://www.npr.org/2011/10/09/141181876/rick-rubin-russell-simmons-def-jams-first-25-years

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    Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to “act black.” You truly believe this?
     
    lol. Yes, Rubin, who is a music industry legend for packaging people, taught the chubby music geek Russell Simmons how to project an image for his company that would sell.

    You seem to have this idea that Simmons was some sort of thug, when, in reality, he was just a music/club geek with hunger. Like Tennessee Coates, his attempts to appear "street hard" are merely acts, as these were the type of guys who those black thugs terrorized and who hid indoors to protect themselves.

    You're quite sad when a direct quote from Rick Rubin won't convince you. Especially given that if it were a lie Simmons would have made it a very large issue---this was a freakin' article about Def Jam become a fashion powerhouse.

    Seriously, you're such a mark. You're like someone believing wrestling is real and Penn & Teller do actual black magic on stage. Wanna buy that bridge?
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  97. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @whorefinder
    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).

    Kate Hudson later married the front man of Muse, Matt Bellamy, who’s arguably the best combo of lead singer/lead guitarist in rock today.

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  98. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Truth
    Well now, he made cinematic masterpeices with Owen Wilson, George Lopez, Jet Li; going all the way back to 1985 with Danny Aello and 1980 with Jose Ferrer and they were bombs in the US. The three Rush Hour films were runaway smashes, therefore it seems that your opinion is in the negligible minority.

    His movies with Aiello and Ferrer were Hong Kong movies, not Hollywood produced.

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  99. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Here’s a new article from the Los Angeles Times that helps explain why the old fogeys at the Los Angeles Country Club don’t let in showbiz folks like Simmons and Ratner"

    Ok, I had to make mention of this. I purposely decided to the next time Steve brought up how Hollywood folks aren't permitted into LACC, the Hialieah of golf clubs apparently.

    According to Wikipedia, the western actor Randolph Scott was indeed a member of LACC. Now, to be fair, Scott also made tons of bucks in the oil, stock market, and real estate business. The point is, he was on the Alist in Hollywood, or at least was a major name there for several decades. And yet, Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

    I'm a little surprised that LACC would be that snobbish concerning allowing Hollywood folks to join. Shouldn't it be on a situational case-by-case basis?

    Like, I would've assumed that LACC would've permitted Crosby (Pan-Am tourney) and Hope (Bob Hope Classic). Those two men took their golfing very, very seriously and supposedly were pretty decent golfers to boot.

    But Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

    Randolph Scott … maybe one of his boyfriends put in a good word?

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    That's a myth. He was twice married, second time for over forty years and was also a supporter of Evangelist Billy Graham.

    Funny thing, most of the time those that turn out to be closeted actually resemble Kevin Spacey, not George Clooney.
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  100. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Truth
    He is areophobic and goes everywhere on a bus, so leaving the country is out of the question, and has made no secret of the fact the he doesn't like making movies and only bdoes a Rush Hour, every few years, when he needs money.

    So he’s lazy.

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  101. duncsbaby says:
    @whorefinder
    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that–KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).

    I’m not gonna call you a liar, but I will say you are not zealously fact-checking some of your tales out of school. The Black Crowes first four albums, the ones that made them rich and famous, were released on Def American, Rubin’s record label. Perhaps their relationship w/Rubin was not altogether serene but their career as a rock band was under his leadership for a good part of the 90′s.

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    Check this Behind the Music of The Black Crowes at the 12 minute mark if you don't believe me, where they trash Rubin and say they wouldn't have anything to do with him after his suggestion:

    https://vimeopro.com/terryranson/crowe-showe/video/108531752
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  102. Clyde says:
    @Truth

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”.
     
    I find that quite hard to believe considering that Simmons is the older brother to the gentleman below without glasses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMJZHrG_94

    Both grew up in Queens but Russell Simmons had a very nice middle class upbringing. Check out wiki for the jobs his parents had. In contrast to 50 cent who was raised in the Queens projects. It’s obvious who has the blackitude and who had to be shown the ropes by the white man.

    Simmons – Only black man named Russell anyways

    wiki
    Simmons was born and raised in Queens, New York.[4] His father is a public school administrator and his mother is a New York City park administrator.

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    Simmons – Only black man named Russell anyways

    Quarterback Russell Wilson is the son of a lawyer.

    Bill Cosby has a brother named Russell.

    , @Truth
    You have no idea what a gift it is to converse with the 125+ IQ crowd.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjeI9QCaCho

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K4c74nPD2k

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  103. Ia says:
    @bomag
    The point was that one has to examine a problem before fixing it.

    Eating garbage isn’t examining anything. It’s eating garbage.

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  104. Clyde says:
    @whorefinder
    It doesn't surprise me Simmons had this scheme set up to meet chicks---he was no natural at social interaction, he needed someone to talk him up to get any. Most super-famous guys are like this: they rarely have any abilities with women at all, and rely on their fame or power to "wow" women into sleeping with them, and will often have their hangers-on bring women to themor talk them up to women instead of doing it themselves, being so bad at it. (e.g. When Tiger Woods's texts came out during his cheating scandal, they revealed Eldrick as an extremely whiny and needy dude who would probably be an involuntary virgin these days if he hadn't become Tiger Woods, world's most famous athlete and famous golfer).

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress "blacker" and talk "blacker". After that, Simmons used his new "authentic'" blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    And thus Simmons, a black man, was basically taught how to be black by Rubin, a Jewish record producer.

    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that--KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin's legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn's hot daughter).

    Also, I never knew being a party/club promoter was a thing until a few years ago when some hungry blacks and gay non-black men were very insistent to some girls I knew that the girls "had" to come to some "hot" club just opening. The girls were very hot and young and flattered, and the dudes basically told them they were paid by how many hot chicks and/or celebrities they could get to show up. It turns out a lot of wannabe music/club guys in NYC start out as party promoters.

    According to one tale I read, Simmons began as a very nerdy black kid who dressed like Urkel and began his career as a party/club promoter. Rick Rubin befriended him, sensing his ability and hunger and taught him how to dress “blacker” and talk “blacker”. After that, Simmons used his new “authentic’” blackness to start bringing acts in the door.

    Sounds true to me. His father and mother had great NYC govt jobs. Wikipedia says this. RS grew up too middle class. His name indicates one or both parents are from Caribbean. Perhaps they shielded him from “the street” so Rick Rubin had to show him how to act blacker. Like no penny loafers

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  105. @Clyde
    Both grew up in Queens but Russell Simmons had a very nice middle class upbringing. Check out wiki for the jobs his parents had. In contrast to 50 cent who was raised in the Queens projects. It's obvious who has the blackitude and who had to be shown the ropes by the white man.

    Simmons - Only black man named Russell anyways

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    Simmons was born and raised in Queens, New York.[4] His father is a public school administrator and his mother is a New York City park administrator.

    Simmons – Only black man named Russell anyways

    Quarterback Russell Wilson is the son of a lawyer.

    Bill Cosby has a brother named Russell.

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    ...Westbrook.
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  106. Brutusale says:
    @Roderick Spode

    Aurora Perrineau, a black woman
     
    Haha. Could have fooled me.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/11/18/09/aurora-perrineau.jpg

    "Let them fight."

    Black woman in a Led Zeppelin t-shirt?!

    Not in this universe.

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    Agreed. No way that woman is anything but white. She's not even attempting to try and pass, and there's no doubt she's white. Perhaps the story made a typo along the lines of some tabloid once referring to Kim Kardashian as an exotic woman of color. Of course, the Led t-shirt is part black and part white so maybe that's a subtle hint.

    Whatever.
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  107. @Cagey Beast
    The SJW's black sedans just came for:

    1) Charlie Rose:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b

    2) Glenn Thrush:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

    I’ll bet that it is difficult to be a movie star/tv host/movie producer and not be tempted to diddle the help. And I am sure that more than a few of the help are quite willing to be diddled if it will help their careers. And some of those who were willingly diddled are now trying to restore their public virtue. And it is unfortunate that GW Bush’s ass patting is now on a par with Bill Clinton’s numerous rapes.

    But I can summon no sympathy for these rumpswabs because they have been lecturing us Deplorables for years and years about what racist, misogynist, homophobic POS we are.

    So f**k them and the horse they rode in on.

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  108. @anon
    Randolph Scott … maybe one of his boyfriends put in a good word?

    That’s a myth. He was twice married, second time for over forty years and was also a supporter of Evangelist Billy Graham.

    Funny thing, most of the time those that turn out to be closeted actually resemble Kevin Spacey, not George Clooney.

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  109. @Brutusale
    Black woman in a Led Zeppelin t-shirt?!

    Not in this universe.

    Agreed. No way that woman is anything but white. She’s not even attempting to try and pass, and there’s no doubt she’s white. Perhaps the story made a typo along the lines of some tabloid once referring to Kim Kardashian as an exotic woman of color. Of course, the Led t-shirt is part black and part white so maybe that’s a subtle hint.

    Whatever.

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  110. Svigor says:

    Annd, now to put it into the right thread:

    I would call Tucker’s turn in The Fifth Element more amusing than funny, but it was impressive (just remembering all those lines and delivering them rapid-fire was impressive). Tucker is a talented guy, but the other commenter was right, he’s only good in small doses.

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  111. whorefinder says: • Website
    @duncsbaby
    Rubin has a long history of makeovers, some successful and some blowing up in his face. The Black Crows threw him out of the room and refused to sign with him when he suggested early on that they (a rock band from Georgia) change their name to the Kobb Kounty Krowes (spelled just like that–KKK for short, of course), and have their promotional photos be them dressed in overalls with haystraws coming out of their mouths.

    The lead guy of the Black Crows got so incensed at this idea that despite Rubin’s legacy and power, and the Crows being relatively unknown at the time, they never spoke with him again, and went out and toured themselves into the ground and became huge (the lead guy ended up marrying Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn’s hot daughter).

    I'm not gonna call you a liar, but I will say you are not zealously fact-checking some of your tales out of school. The Black Crowes first four albums, the ones that made them rich and famous, were released on Def American, Rubin's record label. Perhaps their relationship w/Rubin was not altogether serene but their career as a rock band was under his leadership for a good part of the 90's.

    Check this Behind the Music of The Black Crowes at the 12 minute mark if you don’t believe me, where they trash Rubin and say they wouldn’t have anything to do with him after his suggestion:

    https://vimeopro.com/terryranson/crowe-showe/video/108531752

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  112. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    His movies with Aiello and Ferrer were Hong Kong movies, not Hollywood produced.

    Both movies were distributed by WB in the US, with Hollywood actors so they would sell in America; otherwise they would have cast Danny Ry-lo and Lo-zi Foo-lee and paid them much less.

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  113. Truth says:
    @Clyde
    Both grew up in Queens but Russell Simmons had a very nice middle class upbringing. Check out wiki for the jobs his parents had. In contrast to 50 cent who was raised in the Queens projects. It's obvious who has the blackitude and who had to be shown the ropes by the white man.

    Simmons - Only black man named Russell anyways

    wiki
    Simmons was born and raised in Queens, New York.[4] His father is a public school administrator and his mother is a New York City park administrator.

    You have no idea what a gift it is to converse with the 125+ IQ crowd.

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  114. Truth says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Simmons – Only black man named Russell anyways

    Quarterback Russell Wilson is the son of a lawyer.

    Bill Cosby has a brother named Russell.

    …Westbrook.

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  115. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Truth
    So you're ridiculing me for believing the image a pop musician is trying to sell me, for my naivete in other words, but for some unknown reason, you believe that a wealthy 18-year old Jewish punk rocker from an upscale beach town in Long Island, that TODAY, THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER, is a whopping %6 black...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach,_New_York

    ...who released this record a year before he met Simmons...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mT9_E4LuA

    ...Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to "act black." You truly believe this?

    I don't know why I even wasted 5 minutes on this, but since you love quotes so much, here you go:

    Rubin: Russell and I met at a party for a TV show called "Graffiti Rock." It was a pilot episode and Run DMC appeared on it and the Treacherous 3 appeared on it and it was in a loft somewhere on the West Side in the teens. But I remember being really excited when I met him because, as a fan of hip-hop, he had already — you know his name on a lot of the rap records that already came out — Kurtis Blow, Run DMC —

    [Russell] was five years older than me, and he was already established in the music business. And I had no experience whatsoever. So even then he was the face of hip hop, even before Def Jam he was the face of hip hop. It's true! If you had a club and you wanted to hire a hip hop artist, you called Russell and he would get you a hip hop artist. Or if you were a record company and there was a hip hop artist you were interested in signing, you'd call Russell, because he was the center of hip hop from before me, before we ever met.
     
    https://www.npr.org/2011/10/09/141181876/rick-rubin-russell-simmons-def-jams-first-25-years

    Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to “act black.” You truly believe this?

    lol. Yes, Rubin, who is a music industry legend for packaging people, taught the chubby music geek Russell Simmons how to project an image for his company that would sell.

    You seem to have this idea that Simmons was some sort of thug, when, in reality, he was just a music/club geek with hunger. Like Tennessee Coates, his attempts to appear “street hard” are merely acts, as these were the type of guys who those black thugs terrorized and who hid indoors to protect themselves.

    You’re quite sad when a direct quote from Rick Rubin won’t convince you. Especially given that if it were a lie Simmons would have made it a very large issue—this was a freakin’ article about Def Jam become a fashion powerhouse.

    Seriously, you’re such a mark. You’re like someone believing wrestling is real and Penn & Teller do actual black magic on stage. Wanna buy that bridge?

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    Exactly about Russell Simmons. He returned to form, he is a squishy soft (laughable) yoga dude these days, now that he is worth a few hundred mil and can kick back into the infinite bliss. /sarc
    And The Black Crowes were great in their heyday. Jimmy Page sure endorsed them by going out on tour w them. My take is they blew it at becoming much larger due to their singer being an extreme pot head which eventually will make you into an idiot.
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  116. Clyde says:
    @whorefinder

    Somehow miraculously taught a 23 year old from %100 Hollis, Queens (I was raised a mile away, BTW) to “act black.” You truly believe this?
     
    lol. Yes, Rubin, who is a music industry legend for packaging people, taught the chubby music geek Russell Simmons how to project an image for his company that would sell.

    You seem to have this idea that Simmons was some sort of thug, when, in reality, he was just a music/club geek with hunger. Like Tennessee Coates, his attempts to appear "street hard" are merely acts, as these were the type of guys who those black thugs terrorized and who hid indoors to protect themselves.

    You're quite sad when a direct quote from Rick Rubin won't convince you. Especially given that if it were a lie Simmons would have made it a very large issue---this was a freakin' article about Def Jam become a fashion powerhouse.

    Seriously, you're such a mark. You're like someone believing wrestling is real and Penn & Teller do actual black magic on stage. Wanna buy that bridge?

    Exactly about Russell Simmons. He returned to form, he is a squishy soft (laughable) yoga dude these days, now that he is worth a few hundred mil and can kick back into the infinite bliss. /sarc
    And The Black Crowes were great in their heyday. Jimmy Page sure endorsed them by going out on tour w them. My take is they blew it at becoming much larger due to their singer being an extreme pot head which eventually will make you into an idiot.

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    The Robinson brothers were more like the Davies brothers than the Everly brothers.
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  117. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Why?

    It seems to be the usual SJW/BLM scramble to prove who is the greater victim. Actually, I think that this is great. As difficult as it is to say, Whiskey is right about the Nice White Lady crowd. And the only way for white women to wake up a bit is for them to realize that blacks and browns will never see them as the Nice White Lady, that blacks and browns dislike white women almost as much as they hate white men.

    White women think that they can have their cake and eat it too. Marry the nice white guy while still being the hero of blacks and browns. They're wrong, but it needs to be shoved in their face before they believe it. This type of attack is just what's needed to burst their bubble.

    The issue of race conflict is incidental to my worries. Not only did Lena Dunham double down on her extremist “Believe Survivors” stance when her friend was accused of rape, instead of developing a conscience, but hordes of people are bashing her as a rape apologist and racist because she very briefly defended him. The radicals aren’t just eating their own, as we are not insulated from their harm. What if you defended a friend and co-worker who was accused of rape? What if you are simply against “listen and believe”, and pro evidence and corroboration? The accused already don’t stand a chance socially in this climate, and now people are emboldened to destroy skeptical bystanders too. I feel schadenfreude for Lena Dunham, but other than that, watching this unfold is not fun at all.

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  118. @anonymous
    "Rather the reverse"?

    Are you saying that those of us foregoing TV and Hollywood movies are enabling the rot? Perhaps I misunderstand you, but when people consume even the relatively benign mass media products, they are supporting the same entities that serve up the stupid filth.

    The most effective way to deal with these beasts is to starve them. You don't need them, but they certainly need you.

    Nor does this require "some kind of isolation." If you want to watch others perform, then attend local concerts, plays, and sporting events. Better yet, take up one or more of those activities yourself.

    Well put.

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  119. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Here’s a new article from the Los Angeles Times that helps explain why the old fogeys at the Los Angeles Country Club don’t let in showbiz folks like Simmons and Ratner"

    Ok, I had to make mention of this. I purposely decided to the next time Steve brought up how Hollywood folks aren't permitted into LACC, the Hialieah of golf clubs apparently.

    According to Wikipedia, the western actor Randolph Scott was indeed a member of LACC. Now, to be fair, Scott also made tons of bucks in the oil, stock market, and real estate business. The point is, he was on the Alist in Hollywood, or at least was a major name there for several decades. And yet, Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

    I'm a little surprised that LACC would be that snobbish concerning allowing Hollywood folks to join. Shouldn't it be on a situational case-by-case basis?

    Like, I would've assumed that LACC would've permitted Crosby (Pan-Am tourney) and Hope (Bob Hope Classic). Those two men took their golfing very, very seriously and supposedly were pretty decent golfers to boot.

    But Randolph Scott was a member of LACC.

    Please elaborate upon your analogy; Hialieah is a Hellish place for those unable to live with the cool kids in Miami Beach or Coral Gables…how’s that analogous to the old money country club that spurns entertainers and their ilk…?

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  120. @Jack D
    Mostly Jews up until now but the witch hunt is far from done. Today's target - Charlie Rose . And no, he's not one bit Jewish. Rose is not shortened from Rosenberg or anything like that. He's a good old boy from a N. Carolina tobacco farm.

    Rose was either very aware of the legal implications or genuinely concerned about entering only into consensual relationships based upon the accounts that have come out but at this point, I don't know how it would be possible at all (and maybe that is really the point) for a man to enter into even a consensual relationship with a co-worker, especially a subordinate. In big corporations and universities there are ethics rules nowadays that prohibit most such relationships but Rose ran his production company as his own privately owned small business and was bound by no such rules. There is nothing illegal about having consensual relationships with your employees. Rose was divorced. Even in our super-liberated society, men are expected to make the 1st move. Sometime the woman responds and sometimes she lets the man know that she is not interested but unless the man tries to make the 1st move then nothing is going to happen. Even women who WANT to enter into a relationship usually (though not 100% of the time) wait for the man to make the 1st move. I'm sure there are some women who would LOVE to have a relationship with Charlie Rose where he wines and dines them and takes them to dinner with famous people AND they have a sexual relationship AND Charlie also pays them for their professional work - to some women this would sound like a great opportunity.

    In other words, goal posts on the witch hunt are being moved on us. At the beginning, the narrative was that Harvey Weinstein was forcing himself, in fact literally raping, employees or women looking for employment (as staff or actresses) with his production company. Very few people are in favor of rape so it wasn't hard to hate on Harvey. But now, what seems to be at stake is the modern libertine or playboy lifestyle itself - even IF the women consent, according to the new standard, then men shouldn't even be TRYING to get in the pants of their co-workers. Morally this is may be right, but remember that the people saying this are also in favor of sodomy and late term abortion and all sorts of immoral things so I doubt morality has anything to do with their position. So maybe this is coming from women who don't want that kind of competition because the boss would never be interested in getting in their pants because they are so fat/ugly. They would like the world remade in such a way that their fatness/ugliness puts them at no disadvantage in the job market.

    Limbaugh cited his own law of the universe (of which Steve’s own law of female journalism is a corallary) in commentary on Rose today: Feminism is a gimmick to make life easier on unattractive and masculine women.

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  121. Brutusale says:
    @Clyde
    Exactly about Russell Simmons. He returned to form, he is a squishy soft (laughable) yoga dude these days, now that he is worth a few hundred mil and can kick back into the infinite bliss. /sarc
    And The Black Crowes were great in their heyday. Jimmy Page sure endorsed them by going out on tour w them. My take is they blew it at becoming much larger due to their singer being an extreme pot head which eventually will make you into an idiot.

    The Robinson brothers were more like the Davies brothers than the Everly brothers.

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    The Everly brothers were love hate too as they got older and iirc sampled more of the emerging LA drug culture. Just last week I read about a minor rock guy who was hired for a recording, to fill in the vocal parts for the Everly who had just left in a huff.

    And too bad about the Black Crowes. I liked their Stonesy Exile sludge and other material. Great version of Wake Up Little Susie but you have to dig in at 25:29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IriStEerjwo
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  122. Clyde says:
    @Brutusale
    The Robinson brothers were more like the Davies brothers than the Everly brothers.

    The Everly brothers were love hate too as they got older and iirc sampled more of the emerging LA drug culture. Just last week I read about a minor rock guy who was hired for a recording, to fill in the vocal parts for the Everly who had just left in a huff.

    And too bad about the Black Crowes. I liked their Stonesy Exile sludge and other material. Great version of Wake Up Little Susie but you have to dig in at 25:29

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  123. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Ha. That's actually the main reason that I didn't read the story. Granted, I wasn't much interest, but it was the fear of multiple photos of Dunham that kept me from clicking the link.

    “Whiskey is right about the Nice White Lady crowd. And the only way for white women to wake up a bit is for them to realize that blacks and browns will never see them as the Nice White Lady, that blacks and browns dislike white women almost as much as they hate white men.”

    Whiskey is offering his opinion, which is not necessarily an absolute truism or even factual in nature. When a person uses a term such as “never”, all it takes is one example by which “blacks” and “browns” look at white ladies as being “nice”. So when we see that there are interracial relationships in our nation today, your assertion fails miserably.

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