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From the Daily Caller:

Rolling Stone Settles With University Of Virginia Fraternity Over Rape Hoax Article

CHUCK ROSS
Reporter
7:58 PM 06/12/2017

Rolling Stone has settled a lawsuit with the University of Virginia fraternity whose members were falsely accused of raping a female student in a Nov. 2014 article, The Daily Caller has learned.

A source involved at the national level with the fraternity, Phi Kappa Psi, tells TheDC that Rolling Stone will pay $1.65 million to settle the defamation suit.

Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment.

 
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  1. In other words, it remains affordable to do this kind of thing. Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?

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    Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?
     
    I don't remember her getting anything. The only reason she did not get sued for defamation herself is she doesn't have enough cash to be worth it.

    Dean Eramo went to trial and the jury gave her $3 million.

    The frat's suit is separate from three individual members who also sued.
    , @Barnard
    Given the damage to their reputations and what their potential earnings could have been, the award should have been ten times higher than that. After lawyers fees, what is the average frat member going to get?
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  2. It should have been more. A lot more.

    Hopefully, the frat is not done with Ms. Erdely.

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  3. This seems like chump change considering the legal fees, the bad press, and the fact that these kids have had their reputations permanently tarnished. That’s not even mentioning the potential personal physical harm they were all subject to an account of a completely fabricated story.

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  4. I wish Rolling Stone would defame me. The party celebrating the win will be really fun and the girls will be super white/blonde/thin. Sorry Sabrina!

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  5. @kihowi
    In other words, it remains affordable to do this kind of thing. Isn't it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?

    Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?

    I don’t remember her getting anything. The only reason she did not get sued for defamation herself is she doesn’t have enough cash to be worth it.

    Dean Eramo went to trial and the jury gave her $3 million.

    The frat’s suit is separate from three individual members who also sued.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    According to the Daily Caller, Sabrina Erdely was paid $43,000 for the UVA rape article. It was part of a seven-article contract for which she was going to be paid $300,000.
    , @fitzGetty
    ... why wasn't she thrown in the clink ?
    , @George
    Utica National to pay $4.5 million for school’s anti-semitism

    http://www.oneidadispatch.com/article/OD/20151027/NEWS/151029746
  6. RS was very lucky that Haven Monahan is a fictional character and unable to sue for damages. The three Duke lacrosse players were rumored to have received $20 million each (from Duke).

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    RS was very lucky that Haven Monahan is a fictional character and unable to sue for damages.
     
    Lucky isn't the right word. She deliberately concocted an imaginary character.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    $20 million each (from Duke).
     
    That is it? So Duke pays to erase their egregious sins? It is a travesty. A just settlement would put the eighty plus professors ignorantly testifying to the guilt of the innocent out of work in the grove. They would have to get honest work elsewhere.
  7. False accusations and hate hoaxes should be shamed, prosecuted and punished more than presently… which is usually not at all.

    Astonishing how the perpetrators of so many of these “hate hoaxes” not only go unpunished but also often enjoy the protection of anonymity because authorities refuse to disclose the hoaxer’s identity to protect them from ignominy and any other unfortunate consequences.

    Recall how long the officials maintained their illusion of innocence to protect the privacy of the accuser from the shame of publicity. Was Miss Coakley ever subject to any official consequences? If that’s too heinous, cruel and unusual punishment, then perhaps that’s enough for convicted rapists? Name & shame ‘em but cut ‘em loose on the community?

    What can we in the public do to pressure prosecutors and other authorities to take these more seriously? It doesn’t even work when trying to spin it from a social justice perspective, that it undermines the credibility of genuine victims of hate crimes or sexual assaults.

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  8. It seems like a lot but considering that Jann Wenner is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars, this is hardly anything. All this really did was teach Rolling Stone to cover their tracks just a little more the next time they blatantly lie. Meanwhile Chuck Johnson, the guy who made enough noise to get the counternarrative traction is essentially persona non grata from the internet. All in all this is a victory for the left.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    I can always count on someone here to demand the most defeatist spin on a story.
    , @whorefinder
    Gotta agree. It's way too low. And you'll remember right after the scandal metastized Wenner invited to the White House and hangin' out with President Affirmative Action. Very little in the way of negative consequences, even to Rolling Stone's rep.
    , @Anonymous
    Rolling Stone is probably not making the kind of ROI hedgefunders like to see, but it still makes money. It still has cachet. People still want to be "on the cover of the Rolling Stone". Advertisers spend money to be in it, because there are perks to be a buyer of it for the corporate minions that give it the okay. And because it still has a readership of boomers , some of which came into daddy's money in the last ten years and still have some left. Not until the last boomers are dead or in nursing homes shitting themselves will the enterprise fold and vanish as if it had never been.

    I agree that it would have been just to nail Wenner for a sizable chunk of his net worth, but I don't know what his liability would have been-is he sole owner? Isn't it incorporated? I can't believe he'd be dumb enough to operate without substantial legal insulation from judgments....what if the wrong rock star OD'd in his office?
  9. That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.

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    • LOL: Stealth
    • Replies: @Jack D
    For $1.5M you get shatterproof glass. Safety glass.
    , @whorefinder

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.
     
    Savage, sir. I salute you.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.
     
    And throw in a solid frame and headboard for that loose mattress.
  10. “Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment.”

    Classic Sailer Unleashed.

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  11. Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment.

    Rumor has it that he traveled to Iceland and performed a secret, Norse ritual that transferred his consciousness into the body of a young Black man……

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  12. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Before I found out how much Jann Wenner was worth, I would have been happy to see these modest settlements. Apparently he’s worth more than $700 million, so he won’t miss this. And does insurance pay for it anyway? If so, then it’s coming out of your pocket and mine.

    It says almost all we need to know about our cultural moment that Barack Obama had Wenner over to the White House for coffee after the Eramo settlement. Solidarity!

    What little remains to be said comes about when I talk to my (sadly liberal but well-informed, they think) friends who know nothing of the lawsuits, much less their dispositions. They know some questions were raised about the Rolling Stone story, but such questions were probably ‘fake news’… I mean, you can’t blame Jackie just because she got a couple trivial details wrong…she was traumatised after all…

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    • Replies: @guest
    "she was traumatised after all"

    Glass shards in the brain affect memory.
    , @anonymous
    Wenner nets in at $700 million eh?

    And to think that his magazine started out on a shoestring as a counterculture, "hippie" mag!
    , @JcV
    Maybe you should ditch your clueless liberal friends & make smart ones.

    Smart libs are in the know about this.
  13. Case was factually a slam dunk after the Dean Eramo judgment but there might have been issues in proving damages to the frat.

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Case was factually a slam dunk after the Dean Eramo judgment but there might have been issues in proving damages to the frat.
     
    They may not have needed to prove damages. In libel per se under the common law (such as accusations of a crime or loathsome disease), damages are presumed.
  14. @Kylie
    That'll buy some high dollar glass tables.

    For $1.5M you get shatterproof glass. Safety glass.

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    • Replies: @Kylie
    Shatter-proof glass? Where's the fun in that? Might as well use a bed.
  15. As Steve pointed out, back in November, Jann Wenner was still invited to the White House to discuss “fake news.” It’s almost as if “fake news” is really news that challenges “the narrative.”

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/fake-news-impressario-jann-wenner-interviews-president-eject-obama-about-the-scourge-of-fake-news/

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    In other rock and roll news, Keith Richards has survived Anita Pallenberg, who died today at 73.
    She had three of his children, one of which died as an infant.

    Is this guy immortal or what?
  16. @kihowi
    In other words, it remains affordable to do this kind of thing. Isn't it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?

    Given the damage to their reputations and what their potential earnings could have been, the award should have been ten times higher than that. After lawyers fees, what is the average frat member going to get?

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Given the damage to their reputations and what their potential earnings could have been, the award should have been ten times higher than that. After lawyers fees, what is the average frat member going to get?
     
    The reputational damage is probably fairly minor. Everyone on campus knows the story was bogus. Most people off campus who are ignorant enough to think there was something to the story will probably not remember which fraternity it was.

    Do you?
  17. 1.65 mil – so lame..so low-ball. How did the frat accept this chump change?

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  18. I don’t remember all the details, but you, Steve, and some other bloggers broke this story, right? There’s not that much money involved here to spread around, but that frat ought to do something for you.

    How about a special Sailer keg set aside for you at every Φ Κ Ψ house nationwide for your refreshment on any road trip you may happen to take? As a commenter, it’d be nice to have one red Solo cup set aside with my name in Scripto. Hey, I’m easy to please.

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  19. @Reg Cæsar

    You know that’s a joke, right?

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You know that’s a joke, right?
     
    What isn't, these days?
    , @Father O'Hara
    Barney Google and his goo goo googly eyes!
  20. @Lot

    Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?
     
    I don't remember her getting anything. The only reason she did not get sued for defamation herself is she doesn't have enough cash to be worth it.

    Dean Eramo went to trial and the jury gave her $3 million.

    The frat's suit is separate from three individual members who also sued.

    According to the Daily Caller, Sabrina Erdely was paid $43,000 for the UVA rape article. It was part of a seven-article contract for which she was going to be paid $300,000.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    I thought the reference was to Jackie.
    , @guest
    7 stories for $300,000? Who is she, Steve King? They could get some college kid to throw in as much effort for beer money. (Though their descriptions of broken glass and Blonde Beasts might not be as vivid.)

    Why does Rolling Stone have so much money to throw around? Who's bankrolling them? I assume not customers or advertisers. The CIA? The Rothschilds? The Windsors? Putin? Lizard People?

  21. Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour
     
    "I accept the universe." –Margaret Fuller

    "Gad! she'd better!"–Thomas Carlyle
    , @Olorin
    Well there's that well-remunerated prof at UW Seattle reported last week as asserting that Trump getting elected is going to cause literal Post Trump Stress Disorder that causes "genetic shifts."

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/biology-professor-trumps-presidency-will-permanently-alter-human-genetics/

    Ward argued that significant traumas — like abuse or military combat — can cause “permanent change” to the human genome. He went on to suggest Trump’s presidency is akin to those traumas and will have an “evolutionary consequence” on humanity.

    “We’re finding more and more that, for instance, people who have gone through combat, or women who have been abused — when you have these horrendous episodes in life, it causes permanent change, which is then passed on to your kids,” he said. “These are actual genetic shifts that are taking place within people.”

    Those shifts, Ward contended, “can cause huge evolutionary change.”

    He added: “On a larger scale, the amount of stress that Americans are going through now, because of Trump — there is going to be an evolutionary consequence.”
     

    There will be "genetic shifts" alright...but not of the kind he's asserting. :D

    On remuneration, I saw a comment somewhere saying he made upwards of $130K per year. I checked it against various WA state public employee databases and it seems to be accurate.

    I presume that's for 9 months of work, and not counting benefits or grants bootstrapped with the U-Dub faculty seat.

    , @antipater_1
    So, Lamarck was correct after all?
    , @AnotherDad
    Lysenko theories now and forever.

    Geez, if we're such an incredible burden to live amongst, just *go away*--live by yourselves--and leave the rest of us in peace.

    That's pretty much the summation of the modern left's ideology: white guys are the source of all evil ... and everyone else must be welcome to come and live amongst them.
    , @Lot
    Not breaking. From 2016. Pretty sure Steve blogged this too.
  22. What does a frat do with $1.65 million? Drink better beer?

    Once a year for the next 100 years, UVA should have a day of atonement to pay for their sins. They can Publicly acknowledge the crimes committed by racist minorities and feminists and beg for white man’s forgiveness.

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  23. @AKAHorace
    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    “I accept the universe.” –Margaret Fuller

    “Gad! she’d better!”–Thomas Carlyle

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  24. @AKAHorace
    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

    Well there’s that well-remunerated prof at UW Seattle reported last week as asserting that Trump getting elected is going to cause literal Post Trump Stress Disorder that causes “genetic shifts.”

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/biology-professor-trumps-presidency-will-permanently-alter-human-genetics/

    Ward argued that significant traumas — like abuse or military combat — can cause “permanent change” to the human genome. He went on to suggest Trump’s presidency is akin to those traumas and will have an “evolutionary consequence” on humanity.

    “We’re finding more and more that, for instance, people who have gone through combat, or women who have been abused — when you have these horrendous episodes in life, it causes permanent change, which is then passed on to your kids,” he said. “These are actual genetic shifts that are taking place within people.”

    Those shifts, Ward contended, “can cause huge evolutionary change.”

    He added: “On a larger scale, the amount of stress that Americans are going through now, because of Trump — there is going to be an evolutionary consequence.”

    There will be “genetic shifts” alright…but not of the kind he’s asserting. :D

    On remuneration, I saw a comment somewhere saying he made upwards of $130K per year. I checked it against various WA state public employee databases and it seems to be accurate.

    I presume that’s for 9 months of work, and not counting benefits or grants bootstrapped with the U-Dub faculty seat.

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    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @guest
    Trump will cause genetic shift, yes, and is also in danger of tipping over the island of Guam. That's in addition to nuclear holocaust and, worst of all, waking white consciousness.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Olorin, remember when scientists studied a premise for more than, oh let's say six months, which the time Trump has been in office. Evolutionary and genetic change caused by Trump's six month legacy. Were there any genetic changes and evolutionary changes caused by Stalin's or Pot Pol's reigns of terror.
    , @NOTA
    I bet he's thinking (probably somewhat fuzzily) about epigenetics.
  25. @Random Dude on the Internet
    It seems like a lot but considering that Jann Wenner is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars, this is hardly anything. All this really did was teach Rolling Stone to cover their tracks just a little more the next time they blatantly lie. Meanwhile Chuck Johnson, the guy who made enough noise to get the counternarrative traction is essentially persona non grata from the internet. All in all this is a victory for the left.

    I can always count on someone here to demand the most defeatist spin on a story.

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    • Troll: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Autochthon, @Moshe
    Yeah, buncha nuts. Lotsa interesting stuff here and even worthwhile comments but all this whining , wailing and moaning would make my Jewish mother seem cheery by comparison.

    I mean attacking, analyzing and explicating is fun but too many folk seem like they need some strong meds. They're the mirror image of the "wah, wah! Trump climate change! Wah wah!" obsessives.

  26. “Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment.”

    Can’t you find out what he thinks from Jackie?

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.
    , @Moshe
    +1
  27. Someone recently got $110 million because they claimed baby powder gave them cancer.

    That will come down, but sheesh, that settlement sounds low.

    Aren’t there any Phi Kappa Psi alumni who are good lawyers?

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  28. @Harry Baldwin
    According to the Daily Caller, Sabrina Erdely was paid $43,000 for the UVA rape article. It was part of a seven-article contract for which she was going to be paid $300,000.

    I thought the reference was to Jackie.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    The original poster was referring to Erdely. I realize that you were referring to Jackie.
  29. @Kyle McKenna
    Before I found out how much Jann Wenner was worth, I would have been happy to see these modest settlements. Apparently he's worth more than $700 million, so he won't miss this. And does insurance pay for it anyway? If so, then it's coming out of your pocket and mine.

    It says almost all we need to know about our cultural moment that Barack Obama had Wenner over to the White House for coffee after the Eramo settlement. Solidarity!

    What little remains to be said comes about when I talk to my (sadly liberal but well-informed, they think) friends who know nothing of the lawsuits, much less their dispositions. They know some questions were raised about the Rolling Stone story, but such questions were probably 'fake news'... I mean, you can't blame Jackie just because she got a couple trivial details wrong...she was traumatised after all...

    “she was traumatised after all”

    Glass shards in the brain affect memory.

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  30. @Harry Baldwin
    According to the Daily Caller, Sabrina Erdely was paid $43,000 for the UVA rape article. It was part of a seven-article contract for which she was going to be paid $300,000.

    7 stories for $300,000? Who is she, Steve King? They could get some college kid to throw in as much effort for beer money. (Though their descriptions of broken glass and Blonde Beasts might not be as vivid.)

    Why does Rolling Stone have so much money to throw around? Who’s bankrolling them? I assume not customers or advertisers. The CIA? The Rothschilds? The Windsors? Putin? Lizard People?

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    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Lurker
    Yes, where does the money come from? Surely it's glory days as a print magazine are well behind it, it may be ticking over comfortably but not 100s of million$ worth.
    , @Autochthon
    Mr. King's tales of supernatual horror are far more credible than anything this hack ever wrote.
  31. @Olorin
    Well there's that well-remunerated prof at UW Seattle reported last week as asserting that Trump getting elected is going to cause literal Post Trump Stress Disorder that causes "genetic shifts."

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/biology-professor-trumps-presidency-will-permanently-alter-human-genetics/

    Ward argued that significant traumas — like abuse or military combat — can cause “permanent change” to the human genome. He went on to suggest Trump’s presidency is akin to those traumas and will have an “evolutionary consequence” on humanity.

    “We’re finding more and more that, for instance, people who have gone through combat, or women who have been abused — when you have these horrendous episodes in life, it causes permanent change, which is then passed on to your kids,” he said. “These are actual genetic shifts that are taking place within people.”

    Those shifts, Ward contended, “can cause huge evolutionary change.”

    He added: “On a larger scale, the amount of stress that Americans are going through now, because of Trump — there is going to be an evolutionary consequence.”
     

    There will be "genetic shifts" alright...but not of the kind he's asserting. :D

    On remuneration, I saw a comment somewhere saying he made upwards of $130K per year. I checked it against various WA state public employee databases and it seems to be accurate.

    I presume that's for 9 months of work, and not counting benefits or grants bootstrapped with the U-Dub faculty seat.

    Trump will cause genetic shift, yes, and is also in danger of tipping over the island of Guam. That’s in addition to nuclear holocaust and, worst of all, waking white consciousness.

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  32. @Jack D
    For $1.5M you get shatterproof glass. Safety glass.

    Shatter-proof glass? Where’s the fun in that? Might as well use a bed.

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  33. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Fran Macadam
    "Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment."

    Can't you find out what he thinks from Jackie?

    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    bored identity wished that Φ Κ Ψhatever beer-chugging morons had insisted on a public apology with a good old Franklin Gothic screaming from the Wenner's rugzine front page:

    ROLLING STONE WAS WRONG!!!

    " HAVEN MONAHAN "
    AND
    "THE NIGHT OF THOUSAND SHARDS"
    WERE ONLY FIGMENTS
    OF
    OUR SOCIAL JUSTICE
    IMAGINATION



    But bros prefer cash.
    , @Moshe
    Total aside, I first saw this rape story as a recommended story on the bottom of the standard Google News page.

    I started reading it but stopped after about 5 paragraphs because I legitimately thought it was an over the top piece of satire on a subject that shouldn't be satitized in that way.

    Honest to God.
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    Maybe she'll show up on The Bachelor next year?
    , @Rosamund Vincy
    Wonder how many girls DIDN'T meet Mr. Right because they were scared to socialize on campus, thanks to Jackie.
  34. Well that’s something better than nothing I guess. Not exactly a Hulk Hogan judgement though. Next time have the fake rape case occur in Florida, perhaps?

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  35. @guest
    7 stories for $300,000? Who is she, Steve King? They could get some college kid to throw in as much effort for beer money. (Though their descriptions of broken glass and Blonde Beasts might not be as vivid.)

    Why does Rolling Stone have so much money to throw around? Who's bankrolling them? I assume not customers or advertisers. The CIA? The Rothschilds? The Windsors? Putin? Lizard People?

    Yes, where does the money come from? Surely it’s glory days as a print magazine are well behind it, it may be ticking over comfortably but not 100s of million$ worth.

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    • Replies: @Njguy73
    My guess? Much like Playboy, it will keep its print edition until the founder dies, then go online-only.
  36. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Jury verdicts are routinely appealed. A settlement is paid.

    Anyone that has ever been personally involved in litigation will understand the incentive to settle.

    It’s public vindication and to most of the public, a million dollars is still a lot of money.

    This is a victory.

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  37. “Haven Monahan was unavailable for comment.”

    It has taken its toll on poor Haven.

    https://goo.gl/images/7daZaF

    (Exercise is overrated)

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  38. @AKAHorace
    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

    So, Lamarck was correct after all?

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  39. @Lot

    Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?
     
    I don't remember her getting anything. The only reason she did not get sued for defamation herself is she doesn't have enough cash to be worth it.

    Dean Eramo went to trial and the jury gave her $3 million.

    The frat's suit is separate from three individual members who also sued.

    … why wasn’t she thrown in the clink ?

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Defamation is a tort, but not a crime...unless the defamed is brown or a sodomite, of course; then it becomes not merely a crime, but one of hate (the worst kind!).
  40. Haven Monahan has asked me to report his sentiments:-

    I think we should all just put it behind us and move on.

    Putting it behind and moving on is one of my strengths.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haven Monahan has asked me to report his sentiments:
     
    Just between you and me, could you ask your friend: How was she? Is she a goer? Know what I mean, hint, hint. A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat. Know what I'm sayin', he said knowingly.
    , @anonymous
    "I think we should all just put it behind us and move on."

    The fictional Haven sounds like the real life Hillary's strongest talking points.
  41. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It’s about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty. The “elites” funded trillions of dollars of plans to get the little fellas up and running. It all failed. I don’t hear much talk about it these days.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It’s about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty.

    It isn't. When you bracket out the natural resource rents and the hyptertrophied share accruing to the most affluent decile, real income per capita in Latin American countries clusters around that of the United States ca. 1942. Measures of public health (e.g. life expectancy at birth) are characteristic of the United States ca. 1980 while educational metrics (e.g. literacy rates) suggest early 20th century America. You have some comparatively small countries which are quite a bit poorer than that (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Paraguay) and you have countries which are horrendously mismanaged (Venezuela, Cuba). Latin America's most salient problem is street crime. Homicide rates are generally 2.5x to 5x those of the United States (which is not the most tranquil of occidental countries). Generative of that is institutional dysfunction: corruption and lassitude in the apparat and the court system. Crime, indifferent tax collection, confused land titles, ant heaps of poorly considered and poorly enforced regulation....

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor.
  42. @Lurker
    Yes, where does the money come from? Surely it's glory days as a print magazine are well behind it, it may be ticking over comfortably but not 100s of million$ worth.

    My guess? Much like Playboy, it will keep its print edition until the founder dies, then go online-only.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Speaking of hoaxes:You made me think for a moment I'd not heard about Hugh Hefner's death, which shocked me as implausible given how abreast of news I keep.

    Sure enough, your reports of Mr. Hefner's demise are greatly exaggerated. He is defininitely approaching lichdom, but not dead just yet. Perhaps the switch to online publication from paper saves him more money to put toward his phylactery....
  43. The frat should donate part of the proceeds to the victims of the Boston bombing, just to remind the world that Rolling Stone, the world’s sleaziest magazine, tried to turn Tsarnaev into some sort of sex symbol.

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    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    Why should the CIA's false flag get more attention?
  44. Rolling Stone Pays UVA Frat $1.65 Million for Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s Hate Hoax Article

    $1.65 million will buy a lot of beer.

    The baby boomer rodent who runs Rolling Stone magazine should have his assets liquidated and given to the defamed college kids as well.

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  45. @Lot
    I thought the reference was to Jackie.

    The original poster was referring to Erdely. I realize that you were referring to Jackie.

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  46. @Njguy73
    My guess? Much like Playboy, it will keep its print edition until the founder dies, then go online-only.

    Speaking of hoaxes:You made me think for a moment I’d not heard about Hugh Hefner’s death, which shocked me as implausible given how abreast of news I keep.

    Sure enough, your reports of Mr. Hefner’s demise are greatly exaggerated. He is defininitely approaching lichdom, but not dead just yet. Perhaps the switch to online publication from paper saves him more money to put toward his phylactery….

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    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    "Lichdom..."

    Love it!

    Reminds me of my DnD days.
    , @Njguy73
    Did I say Hefner died? No. I said that Playboy will continue its print edition until he does die, then go online only. Hence my use of the future tense.
  47. @guest
    7 stories for $300,000? Who is she, Steve King? They could get some college kid to throw in as much effort for beer money. (Though their descriptions of broken glass and Blonde Beasts might not be as vivid.)

    Why does Rolling Stone have so much money to throw around? Who's bankrolling them? I assume not customers or advertisers. The CIA? The Rothschilds? The Windsors? Putin? Lizard People?

    Mr. King’s tales of supernatual horror are far more credible than anything this hack ever wrote.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    True dat about Steven King's work:

    "All work and no play make Haven a dull boy!"

    "Don't go thinking you can re-bury print Rolling Stone in the old Indian burial and it'll come back alive on-line! It's been done befaw, with the old New York Times, back in '85. Don't do it! What comes out of the ground ain't whatcha' put in it.! Sometimes, DEAD is BETTA!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knKLVGnuCI4
  48. @fitzGetty
    ... why wasn't she thrown in the clink ?

    Defamation is a tort, but not a crime…unless the defamed is brown or a sodomite, of course; then it becomes not merely a crime, but one of hate (the worst kind!).

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  49. OT –

    For some awesome Coalition of the Fringes fraying, check out the protest last weekend against the DC gay pride parade, which was held by… wait for it… militant leftists!

    That Washington Post article only references the protesters being angry at the corporate ties of the mainstream LGBT organizers (known as Capital Pride), but the protesters own manifesto clearly reveals a standard intersectional shakedown:

    1) Capital Pride will honor the legacy of Pride and the trans women of color who inspired it by ensuring that trans women of color play a central role in decision-making processes.

    2) Capital Pride will take a strong position against state violence and end its endorsement of MPD by no longer inviting police officers to march in its parade.

    3) Capital Pride will address its neglect of indigenous, Muslim and two spirit communities.

    4) Capital Pride will bar corporate entities that inflict harm on historically marginalized* LGBTQ2S people from participation in Pride events.

    The executive board will include trans people of color (binary and non-binary inclusive), queer and trans DC natives, queer and trans youth, bisexuals, individuals with disabilities and indigenous and two spirit individuals.

    5) Capital Pride will immediately sever all ties with Wells Fargo, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, and Leidos and return any funds received from these corporations by donating them to community based organizations.

    6) Capital Pride will commit to restructuring, replacing and expanding its board of directors to represent and center the leadership of historically marginalized communities.

    (Somewhere in that wordy manifesto they also endorse BDS so I guess a few people here will now consider themselves proudly part of the militant “LGBTQ2S” community.)

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    • Replies: @josh
    What the...?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
    , @BenKenobi
    This list of demands is a buzzword salad.

    God I wish I could use a piece of steel rebar to shatter the orbital socket of a person who talks like this.

    You know, on the off chance it would knock some sense into them.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Biz, last year the BLM of Toronto shut down the start of the city's Pride Parade. Their list of demands was very similar to these, they must have a style book. PS, The BLM of Toronto was mostly militant Lesbians.
    , @Moshe
    "Spirit communities"?

    I assumed they meant NA but they mentioned indigenous separately.

    Do they mean New Age feminist religions? Voodoo and Santaria?
  50. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Kyle McKenna
    Before I found out how much Jann Wenner was worth, I would have been happy to see these modest settlements. Apparently he's worth more than $700 million, so he won't miss this. And does insurance pay for it anyway? If so, then it's coming out of your pocket and mine.

    It says almost all we need to know about our cultural moment that Barack Obama had Wenner over to the White House for coffee after the Eramo settlement. Solidarity!

    What little remains to be said comes about when I talk to my (sadly liberal but well-informed, they think) friends who know nothing of the lawsuits, much less their dispositions. They know some questions were raised about the Rolling Stone story, but such questions were probably 'fake news'... I mean, you can't blame Jackie just because she got a couple trivial details wrong...she was traumatised after all...

    Wenner nets in at $700 million eh?

    And to think that his magazine started out on a shoestring as a counterculture, “hippie” mag!

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  51. @Jack Hanson
    I can always count on someone here to demand the most defeatist spin on a story.
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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yep, we are not up-beat enough for the guy, none of us. That's why he's so pissed off and down on everything.

    Sorry for the late reply, BTW. I was in the bathroom um, other room for a minute perusing reviews of John Derbyshire's We are Doomed.


    Hahahaa... great video!

    , @Jack Hanson
    Thr guy who had to lie about his election predictions in a vain attempt to preserve his e-cred here and hasnt had a new thought outside of "we're so doomed" shouldn't be calling anyone a broken record.

    But lack of self awareness is pretty much par for many of you on here.

  52. @biz
    OT -

    For some awesome Coalition of the Fringes fraying, check out the protest last weekend against the DC gay pride parade, which was held by... wait for it... militant leftists!

    That Washington Post article only references the protesters being angry at the corporate ties of the mainstream LGBT organizers (known as Capital Pride), but the protesters own manifesto clearly reveals a standard intersectional shakedown:

    1) Capital Pride will honor the legacy of Pride and the trans women of color who inspired it by ensuring that trans women of color play a central role in decision-making processes.

    2) Capital Pride will take a strong position against state violence and end its endorsement of MPD by no longer inviting police officers to march in its parade.

    3) Capital Pride will address its neglect of indigenous, Muslim and two spirit communities.

    4) Capital Pride will bar corporate entities that inflict harm on historically marginalized* LGBTQ2S people from participation in Pride events.

    The executive board will include trans people of color (binary and non-binary inclusive), queer and trans DC natives, queer and trans youth, bisexuals, individuals with disabilities and indigenous and two spirit individuals.

    5) Capital Pride will immediately sever all ties with Wells Fargo, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, and Leidos and return any funds received from these corporations by donating them to community based organizations.

    6) Capital Pride will commit to restructuring, replacing and expanding its board of directors to represent and center the leadership of historically marginalized communities.
     
    (Somewhere in that wordy manifesto they also endorse BDS so I guess a few people here will now consider themselves proudly part of the militant "LGBTQ2S" community.)
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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    I never thought there were enough gay Indians (casino not call center) to justify giving them their own category until I attended a graduation ceremony at UC Santa Cruz back in the oughts. The lesbian dean giving her speech kept referring to people who were Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Trans, Two Spirit. I just keep it short nowadays by using the acronym LBGTBBQ to make sure everyone is covered.
    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.
  53. Hope they got attorneys’ fees, too. That seems way too low. Rolling Stone should be Gawkered and put into bankruptcy.

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    • Replies: @CJ
    While IANAL the problem seems to be that organizations have got to show actual financial damages in order to get big settlements. The Volokh lawblog in the Washington Post has gone into this in some detail. It looks like defaming a commercial business is a lot riskier than defaming a fraternity.

    C. The fraternity as an organization: Corporations and unincorporated associations that have recognized legal identities (such as unions, partnerships and the like) can also sue for defamation that causes injury to their organizational reputation, independently of whether any member was defamed. For instance, if someone falsely accuses a corporation of defrauding customers, this might hurt the corporation’s reputation even apart from injury to any particular employee’s reputation. And this is true even for nonprofit corporations, see, e.g., Lega Siciliana Social Club, Inc. v. St. Germain (Conn. Ct. App. 2003); Gorman v. Swaggart (La. Ct. App. 1988) (yes, that’s the Swaggart you’re thinking of). As the Restatement (Second) of Torts § 561(b) puts it,

    One who publishes defamatory matter concerning a corporation is subject to liability to it . . . if, although not for profit, it depends upon financial support from the public, and the matter tends to interfere with its activities by prejudicing it in public estimation.

    The allegations of such group misconduct at the fraternity house certainly do harm the fraternity as an organization “in public estimation.” Therefore, if the chapter has independent legal existence, whether as a corporation or as an unincorporated association, and if it can show loss of income from potential members or from donors — or other loss stemming from, for instance, punishment by the university — then it could potentially prevail on this. And the central fraternity could also sue for similar losses, on the theory that its reputation has been tarnished both at UVA and elsewhere.

    On the other hand, the organizations can’t recover damages for the emotional distress flowing from the injury to their reputations (since they lack emotions). Individuals can recover such emotional distress damage, even above and beyond actual lost income.
     
    So the suits from individuals have a better chance of lightening Wenner's wallet. OTOH, Volokh goes on to explain that the university literally cannot sue for defamation because it is a government institution.

    E. The university itself: The university cannot sue. New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964) famously held that government officials can prevail in defamation lawsuits only if they can show that the defendant knew the statement was false, or was reckless about the possibility of falsehood — but it also, less famously, held that government entities can’t sue for defamation, period, regardless of the defendant’s mental state:

    For good reason, no court of last resort in this country has ever held, or even suggested, that prosecutions for libel on government have any place in the American system of jurisprudence.
     
    Reading over the two Volokh pieces on defamation law, it becomes clear that Rolling Stone's journalistic modus operandi is based on taking advantages of the weak areas and avoiding the strong ones, like not saying anything defamatory about an actual company's actual products.
  54. @Random Dude on the Internet
    It seems like a lot but considering that Jann Wenner is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars, this is hardly anything. All this really did was teach Rolling Stone to cover their tracks just a little more the next time they blatantly lie. Meanwhile Chuck Johnson, the guy who made enough noise to get the counternarrative traction is essentially persona non grata from the internet. All in all this is a victory for the left.

    Gotta agree. It’s way too low. And you’ll remember right after the scandal metastized Wenner invited to the White House and hangin’ out with President Affirmative Action. Very little in the way of negative consequences, even to Rolling Stone‘s rep.

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  55. @Kylie
    That'll buy some high dollar glass tables.

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.

    Savage, sir. I salute you.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I believe Kylie is a cisgendered person with two X chromosones, but the reply was awesome.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    whorefinder, I picture Kylie has having a nice set of XX chromosones.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    I do believe that Kylie is a cisgendered female-bodied person and uses the pronouns "she/her"
  56. Hell hath no fury like a crusading liberal sued. I pity the targets of their displaced wrath.

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  57. @Anonymous
    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It's about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty. The "elites" funded trillions of dollars of plans to get the little fellas up and running. It all failed. I don't hear much talk about it these days.

    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It’s about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty.

    It isn’t. When you bracket out the natural resource rents and the hyptertrophied share accruing to the most affluent decile, real income per capita in Latin American countries clusters around that of the United States ca. 1942. Measures of public health (e.g. life expectancy at birth) are characteristic of the United States ca. 1980 while educational metrics (e.g. literacy rates) suggest early 20th century America. You have some comparatively small countries which are quite a bit poorer than that (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Paraguay) and you have countries which are horrendously mismanaged (Venezuela, Cuba). Latin America’s most salient problem is street crime. Homicide rates are generally 2.5x to 5x those of the United States (which is not the most tranquil of occidental countries). Generative of that is institutional dysfunction: corruption and lassitude in the apparat and the court system. Crime, indifferent tax collection, confused land titles, ant heaps of poorly considered and poorly enforced regulation….

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor.

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    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @dearieme
    Years ago the wife of a friend was a schoolteacher in an English city which had quite a few Caribbean immigrants. She said it was very sad seeing nice young lads from decent Bajan families fall into the nasty, violent culture of Jamaican youth.
    , @PiltdownMan

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor
     
    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

  58. @josh
    What the...?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

    I never thought there were enough gay Indians (casino not call center) to justify giving them their own category until I attended a graduation ceremony at UC Santa Cruz back in the oughts. The lesbian dean giving her speech kept referring to people who were Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Trans, Two Spirit. I just keep it short nowadays by using the acronym LBGTBBQ to make sure everyone is covered.
    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.

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    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.

    The richer the college town, the greater the conferring of acronym nobility titles.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    LBGTBBQ
     
    I ain't gettin' my ribs from that joint!

    No, I'll go to Famous Dave's, founded by a one-spirit Indian.

  59. @Lot

    Isn’t it only 5-10 times what the hatehoaxer herself got?
     
    I don't remember her getting anything. The only reason she did not get sued for defamation herself is she doesn't have enough cash to be worth it.

    Dean Eramo went to trial and the jury gave her $3 million.

    The frat's suit is separate from three individual members who also sued.

    Utica National to pay $4.5 million for school’s anti-semitism

    http://www.oneidadispatch.com/article/OD/20151027/NEWS/151029746

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Yeah, being the victim of "bullying" sure pays well too. Just the fat kids alone in my middle school be entitled to bankrupt the school district if this stupid culture existed in the 90's.
  60. @Autochthon

    Yep, we are not up-beat enough for the guy, none of us. That’s why he’s so pissed off and down on everything.

    Sorry for the late reply, BTW. I was in the bathroom um, other room for a minute perusing reviews of John Derbyshire’s We are Doomed.

    Hahahaa… great video!

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    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    The dude who follows me around from thread to thread trying to stir up slapfights for attention from me declaring that anyone is "pissed off" is more of that lack of self awareness I'm talking about.
  61. Andrew Sullivan wrote about this recently. Gays no longer have reason to dislike cops, which doesn’t sit well with BLM. And there is the fact that gays are often the first wave of gentrification. Gentrifiers love cops and I think the cops return the favor.

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  62. @Art Deco
    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It’s about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty.

    It isn't. When you bracket out the natural resource rents and the hyptertrophied share accruing to the most affluent decile, real income per capita in Latin American countries clusters around that of the United States ca. 1942. Measures of public health (e.g. life expectancy at birth) are characteristic of the United States ca. 1980 while educational metrics (e.g. literacy rates) suggest early 20th century America. You have some comparatively small countries which are quite a bit poorer than that (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Paraguay) and you have countries which are horrendously mismanaged (Venezuela, Cuba). Latin America's most salient problem is street crime. Homicide rates are generally 2.5x to 5x those of the United States (which is not the most tranquil of occidental countries). Generative of that is institutional dysfunction: corruption and lassitude in the apparat and the court system. Crime, indifferent tax collection, confused land titles, ant heaps of poorly considered and poorly enforced regulation....

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor.

    Years ago the wife of a friend was a schoolteacher in an English city which had quite a few Caribbean immigrants. She said it was very sad seeing nice young lads from decent Bajan families fall into the nasty, violent culture of Jamaican youth.

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  63. Erdely admitted that she failed to question any of Coakley’s three friends who ignored her gang rape because they were worried it would harm their social standing to report it. Even though she had the real name of one of the friends, Erdely didn’t even reach out to her, blaming the failure on simply forgetting to do so.

    Three friends Jackie say the magazine article wrongly portrayed them as uncaring students who were more concerned about their reputations than her well-being. The friends told The Associated Press that the Rolling Stone article was wrong on a number of key points.
    One of the friends, a 20-year-old, third-year student referred to as “Randall” in the Rolling Stone article but whose real name is Ryan Duffin, told the AP that not only did he encourage the alleged victim to go to police, but he started to dial 9-1-1 on his cellphone until she begged off saying she just wanted to go back to her dorm and go to sleep.
    “I couldn’t help but notice that everything that the article said about me was incorrect,” Duffin said.

    These 3 “friends” of Jackie should go after Erdely and the Rolling Stone. I hope they are.

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  64. @Kyle McKenna
    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.

    bored identity wished that Φ Κ Ψhatever beer-chugging morons had insisted on a public apology with a good old Franklin Gothic screaming from the Wenner’s rugzine front page:

    ROLLING STONE WAS WRONG!!!

    ” HAVEN MONAHAN ”
    AND
    “THE NIGHT OF THOUSAND SHARDS”
    WERE ONLY FIGMENTS
    OF
    OUR SOCIAL JUSTICE
    IMAGINATION

    But bros prefer cash.

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  65. @whorefinder

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.
     
    Savage, sir. I salute you.

    I believe Kylie is a cisgendered person with two X chromosones, but the reply was awesome.

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  66. @dearieme
    Haven Monahan has asked me to report his sentiments:-


    I think we should all just put it behind us and move on.

    Putting it behind and moving on is one of my strengths.

    Haven Monahan has asked me to report his sentiments:

    Just between you and me, could you ask your friend: How was she? Is she a goer? Know what I mean, hint, hint. A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind bat. Know what I’m sayin’, he said knowingly.

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  67. @Autochthon
    Mr. King's tales of supernatual horror are far more credible than anything this hack ever wrote.

    True dat about Steven King’s work:

    “All work and no play make Haven a dull boy!”

    “Don’t go thinking you can re-bury print Rolling Stone in the old Indian burial and it’ll come back alive on-line! It’s been done befaw, with the old New York Times, back in ’85. Don’t do it! What comes out of the ground ain’t whatcha’ put in it.! Sometimes, DEAD is BETTA!”

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  68. @Alfa158
    I never thought there were enough gay Indians (casino not call center) to justify giving them their own category until I attended a graduation ceremony at UC Santa Cruz back in the oughts. The lesbian dean giving her speech kept referring to people who were Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Trans, Two Spirit. I just keep it short nowadays by using the acronym LBGTBBQ to make sure everyone is covered.
    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.

    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.

    The richer the college town, the greater the conferring of acronym nobility titles.

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  69. Jann Wenner, publisher of Rolling Stone magazine, is reportedly worth $700 million. Wenner was born into a wealthy family in New York City. Jann Wenner is Jewish. Jann Wenner endorsed Hillary Clinton for president in 2016. Jann Wenner produced Boz Scagg’s first album. That is interesting.

    Wenner played a LOW DOWN dirty trick on some college kids recently. I didn’t follow it, but you couldn’t escape the coverage of the hate hoax nonsense in the New York Times and other places on the internet. I say that Wenner deliberately attacked college kids of mostly European Christian ancestry as a form of ethnic retaliation.

    Wenner used Rolling Stone magazine as a weapon to attack European Christian college kids. Wenner published a hate hoax story that had fraternity members raping a woman on shards of broken glass. Can you all say Kristallnacht?

    Wealthy Jew Wenner deliberately attacked the college kids because they were mostly European Christian. Wenner may have wanted to make up a good batch of KKKrazy Glue propaganda to further cement the coalition of the fringes into an electoral steamroller to elect his pal Hillary Clinton. Jann Wenner is an evil baby boomer rodent.

    Someone should make this hate hoax story of Jann Wenner into a part of their campaign for US Congress. Middle class parents of European Christian ancestry would love to hear a Republican political leader going after Jann Wenner for his obvious hatred of White Core American college students.

    Jann Wenner should have his entire fortune liquidated and handed over to his hate hoax victims. Furthermore, Wenner should be encouraged to leave the United States. That might sound drastic, but Wenner is the type of anti-White rodent who needs to be extricated from the United States.

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  70. @biz
    OT -

    For some awesome Coalition of the Fringes fraying, check out the protest last weekend against the DC gay pride parade, which was held by... wait for it... militant leftists!

    That Washington Post article only references the protesters being angry at the corporate ties of the mainstream LGBT organizers (known as Capital Pride), but the protesters own manifesto clearly reveals a standard intersectional shakedown:

    1) Capital Pride will honor the legacy of Pride and the trans women of color who inspired it by ensuring that trans women of color play a central role in decision-making processes.

    2) Capital Pride will take a strong position against state violence and end its endorsement of MPD by no longer inviting police officers to march in its parade.

    3) Capital Pride will address its neglect of indigenous, Muslim and two spirit communities.

    4) Capital Pride will bar corporate entities that inflict harm on historically marginalized* LGBTQ2S people from participation in Pride events.

    The executive board will include trans people of color (binary and non-binary inclusive), queer and trans DC natives, queer and trans youth, bisexuals, individuals with disabilities and indigenous and two spirit individuals.

    5) Capital Pride will immediately sever all ties with Wells Fargo, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, and Leidos and return any funds received from these corporations by donating them to community based organizations.

    6) Capital Pride will commit to restructuring, replacing and expanding its board of directors to represent and center the leadership of historically marginalized communities.
     
    (Somewhere in that wordy manifesto they also endorse BDS so I guess a few people here will now consider themselves proudly part of the militant "LGBTQ2S" community.)

    This list of demands is a buzzword salad.

    God I wish I could use a piece of steel rebar to shatter the orbital socket of a person who talks like this.

    You know, on the off chance it would knock some sense into them.

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    • Replies: @biz
    The question remains though: to what extent are they sincere and to what extent is it just a resource shakedown? Those demands would steer a lot of money and jobs a certain way.
  71. ANTI-WHITE HATE HOAX ATTACKS ARE INCREASING IN AMERICA

    WHO’LL STOP THE ANTI-WHITE HATE HOAXES?

    PATRIOTIC WHITES WILL STOP THE ANTI-WHITE HATE HOAXES

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  72. This tweet is from December 2014. This is the guy that won the presidency in 2016. What happened to this fighter? President Trump should start brawling with the bastards, everywhere. Don’t listen to the media pukes who say “that’s not presidential.”

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  73. @whorefinder
    Hope they got attorneys' fees, too. That seems way too low. Rolling Stone should be Gawkered and put into bankruptcy.

    While IANAL the problem seems to be that organizations have got to show actual financial damages in order to get big settlements. The Volokh lawblog in the Washington Post has gone into this in some detail. It looks like defaming a commercial business is a lot riskier than defaming a fraternity.

    C. The fraternity as an organization: Corporations and unincorporated associations that have recognized legal identities (such as unions, partnerships and the like) can also sue for defamation that causes injury to their organizational reputation, independently of whether any member was defamed. For instance, if someone falsely accuses a corporation of defrauding customers, this might hurt the corporation’s reputation even apart from injury to any particular employee’s reputation. And this is true even for nonprofit corporations, see, e.g., Lega Siciliana Social Club, Inc. v. St. Germain (Conn. Ct. App. 2003); Gorman v. Swaggart (La. Ct. App. 1988) (yes, that’s the Swaggart you’re thinking of). As the Restatement (Second) of Torts § 561(b) puts it,

    One who publishes defamatory matter concerning a corporation is subject to liability to it . . . if, although not for profit, it depends upon financial support from the public, and the matter tends to interfere with its activities by prejudicing it in public estimation.

    The allegations of such group misconduct at the fraternity house certainly do harm the fraternity as an organization “in public estimation.” Therefore, if the chapter has independent legal existence, whether as a corporation or as an unincorporated association, and if it can show loss of income from potential members or from donors — or other loss stemming from, for instance, punishment by the university — then it could potentially prevail on this. And the central fraternity could also sue for similar losses, on the theory that its reputation has been tarnished both at UVA and elsewhere.

    On the other hand, the organizations can’t recover damages for the emotional distress flowing from the injury to their reputations (since they lack emotions). Individuals can recover such emotional distress damage, even above and beyond actual lost income.

    So the suits from individuals have a better chance of lightening Wenner’s wallet. OTOH, Volokh goes on to explain that the university literally cannot sue for defamation because it is a government institution.

    E. The university itself: The university cannot sue. New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964) famously held that government officials can prevail in defamation lawsuits only if they can show that the defendant knew the statement was false, or was reckless about the possibility of falsehood — but it also, less famously, held that government entities can’t sue for defamation, period, regardless of the defendant’s mental state:

    For good reason, no court of last resort in this country has ever held, or even suggested, that prosecutions for libel on government have any place in the American system of jurisprudence.

    Reading over the two Volokh pieces on defamation law, it becomes clear that Rolling Stone’s journalistic modus operandi is based on taking advantages of the weak areas and avoiding the strong ones, like not saying anything defamatory about an actual company’s actual products.

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    Wenner didn't make hundreds of millions of dollars by taking on fights he couldn't survive.
  74. @George
    Utica National to pay $4.5 million for school’s anti-semitism

    http://www.oneidadispatch.com/article/OD/20151027/NEWS/151029746

    Yeah, being the victim of “bullying” sure pays well too. Just the fat kids alone in my middle school be entitled to bankrupt the school district if this stupid culture existed in the 90′s.

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  75. Seems like a kind of low settlement for arguably THE worst case of libel in post World War II America.

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  76. @Olorin
    Well there's that well-remunerated prof at UW Seattle reported last week as asserting that Trump getting elected is going to cause literal Post Trump Stress Disorder that causes "genetic shifts."

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/biology-professor-trumps-presidency-will-permanently-alter-human-genetics/

    Ward argued that significant traumas — like abuse or military combat — can cause “permanent change” to the human genome. He went on to suggest Trump’s presidency is akin to those traumas and will have an “evolutionary consequence” on humanity.

    “We’re finding more and more that, for instance, people who have gone through combat, or women who have been abused — when you have these horrendous episodes in life, it causes permanent change, which is then passed on to your kids,” he said. “These are actual genetic shifts that are taking place within people.”

    Those shifts, Ward contended, “can cause huge evolutionary change.”

    He added: “On a larger scale, the amount of stress that Americans are going through now, because of Trump — there is going to be an evolutionary consequence.”
     

    There will be "genetic shifts" alright...but not of the kind he's asserting. :D

    On remuneration, I saw a comment somewhere saying he made upwards of $130K per year. I checked it against various WA state public employee databases and it seems to be accurate.

    I presume that's for 9 months of work, and not counting benefits or grants bootstrapped with the U-Dub faculty seat.

    Olorin, remember when scientists studied a premise for more than, oh let’s say six months, which the time Trump has been in office. Evolutionary and genetic change caused by Trump’s six month legacy. Were there any genetic changes and evolutionary changes caused by Stalin’s or Pot Pol’s reigns of terror.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    I'd say that Stalin and Pol Pot certainly affected population distributions in their respective countries.

    So: yes.

    But that's not what this prof is talking about. But if he were, it would be excrement since these nitwits are equating precisely that sort of hemoclysm with the lawful election of a public figure they happen to hate, whose election surprised them in the extreme because they trapped themselves in their own Blue bell jar and are suffocating.
  77. @biz
    OT -

    For some awesome Coalition of the Fringes fraying, check out the protest last weekend against the DC gay pride parade, which was held by... wait for it... militant leftists!

    That Washington Post article only references the protesters being angry at the corporate ties of the mainstream LGBT organizers (known as Capital Pride), but the protesters own manifesto clearly reveals a standard intersectional shakedown:

    1) Capital Pride will honor the legacy of Pride and the trans women of color who inspired it by ensuring that trans women of color play a central role in decision-making processes.

    2) Capital Pride will take a strong position against state violence and end its endorsement of MPD by no longer inviting police officers to march in its parade.

    3) Capital Pride will address its neglect of indigenous, Muslim and two spirit communities.

    4) Capital Pride will bar corporate entities that inflict harm on historically marginalized* LGBTQ2S people from participation in Pride events.

    The executive board will include trans people of color (binary and non-binary inclusive), queer and trans DC natives, queer and trans youth, bisexuals, individuals with disabilities and indigenous and two spirit individuals.

    5) Capital Pride will immediately sever all ties with Wells Fargo, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, and Leidos and return any funds received from these corporations by donating them to community based organizations.

    6) Capital Pride will commit to restructuring, replacing and expanding its board of directors to represent and center the leadership of historically marginalized communities.
     
    (Somewhere in that wordy manifesto they also endorse BDS so I guess a few people here will now consider themselves proudly part of the militant "LGBTQ2S" community.)

    Biz, last year the BLM of Toronto shut down the start of the city’s Pride Parade. Their list of demands was very similar to these, they must have a style book. PS, The BLM of Toronto was mostly militant Lesbians.

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    Oh yeah, I remember that!

    It is interesting that gay cis men are turning out to be the very relatively conservative side of the LGBT community. They for the most part want to have careers, own houses, fix up houses, have heterosexual friends or at least acquaintances, maybe get married, and some want to serve in the military and law enforcement. Lesbians on the other hand seem to have gone much more militant and anti-mainstream, with nonsense such as this. Interesting because for a long time back in the day lesbians were less abhorred by the mainstream than gay men.
  78. @whorefinder

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.
     
    Savage, sir. I salute you.

    whorefinder, I picture Kylie has having a nice set of XX chromosones.

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  79. @whorefinder

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.
     
    Savage, sir. I salute you.

    I do believe that Kylie is a cisgendered female-bodied person and uses the pronouns “she/her”

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  80. @Jack Hanson
    I can always count on someone here to demand the most defeatist spin on a story.

    Yeah, buncha nuts. Lotsa interesting stuff here and even worthwhile comments but all this whining , wailing and moaning would make my Jewish mother seem cheery by comparison.

    I mean attacking, analyzing and explicating is fun but too many folk seem like they need some strong meds. They’re the mirror image of the “wah, wah! Trump climate change! Wah wah!” obsessives.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    The AltRight was philosophy students jerking each off for so long and continuing their lifelong losing streak they don't know how to win.
  81. @Kyle McKenna
    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.

    Total aside, I first saw this rape story as a recommended story on the bottom of the standard Google News page.

    I started reading it but stopped after about 5 paragraphs because I legitimately thought it was an over the top piece of satire on a subject that shouldn’t be satitized in that way.

    Honest to God.

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  82. @biz
    OT -

    For some awesome Coalition of the Fringes fraying, check out the protest last weekend against the DC gay pride parade, which was held by... wait for it... militant leftists!

    That Washington Post article only references the protesters being angry at the corporate ties of the mainstream LGBT organizers (known as Capital Pride), but the protesters own manifesto clearly reveals a standard intersectional shakedown:

    1) Capital Pride will honor the legacy of Pride and the trans women of color who inspired it by ensuring that trans women of color play a central role in decision-making processes.

    2) Capital Pride will take a strong position against state violence and end its endorsement of MPD by no longer inviting police officers to march in its parade.

    3) Capital Pride will address its neglect of indigenous, Muslim and two spirit communities.

    4) Capital Pride will bar corporate entities that inflict harm on historically marginalized* LGBTQ2S people from participation in Pride events.

    The executive board will include trans people of color (binary and non-binary inclusive), queer and trans DC natives, queer and trans youth, bisexuals, individuals with disabilities and indigenous and two spirit individuals.

    5) Capital Pride will immediately sever all ties with Wells Fargo, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, and Leidos and return any funds received from these corporations by donating them to community based organizations.

    6) Capital Pride will commit to restructuring, replacing and expanding its board of directors to represent and center the leadership of historically marginalized communities.
     
    (Somewhere in that wordy manifesto they also endorse BDS so I guess a few people here will now consider themselves proudly part of the militant "LGBTQ2S" community.)

    “Spirit communities”?

    I assumed they meant NA but they mentioned indigenous separately.

    Do they mean New Age feminist religions? Voodoo and Santaria?

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    “Spirit communities”?
     
    Hold on people, I think y'all meant "Spirits communities" "Spirits, as in "distilled spirits". Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would make the most sense in context. All it takes is one damn typo to really change the meaning in English. This wouldn't be a problem in the 官话 language.
  83. @Jack D
    RS was very lucky that Haven Monahan is a fictional character and unable to sue for damages. The three Duke lacrosse players were rumored to have received $20 million each (from Duke).

    RS was very lucky that Haven Monahan is a fictional character and unable to sue for damages.

    Lucky isn’t the right word. She deliberately concocted an imaginary character.

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  84. @Thomas
    Case was factually a slam dunk after the Dean Eramo judgment but there might have been issues in proving damages to the frat.

    Case was factually a slam dunk after the Dean Eramo judgment but there might have been issues in proving damages to the frat.

    They may not have needed to prove damages. In libel per se under the common law (such as accusations of a crime or loathsome disease), damages are presumed.

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  85. @Barnard
    Given the damage to their reputations and what their potential earnings could have been, the award should have been ten times higher than that. After lawyers fees, what is the average frat member going to get?

    Given the damage to their reputations and what their potential earnings could have been, the award should have been ten times higher than that. After lawyers fees, what is the average frat member going to get?

    The reputational damage is probably fairly minor. Everyone on campus knows the story was bogus. Most people off campus who are ignorant enough to think there was something to the story will probably not remember which fraternity it was.

    Do you?

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  86. @Buffalo Joe
    Biz, last year the BLM of Toronto shut down the start of the city's Pride Parade. Their list of demands was very similar to these, they must have a style book. PS, The BLM of Toronto was mostly militant Lesbians.

    Oh yeah, I remember that!

    It is interesting that gay cis men are turning out to be the very relatively conservative side of the LGBT community. They for the most part want to have careers, own houses, fix up houses, have heterosexual friends or at least acquaintances, maybe get married, and some want to serve in the military and law enforcement. Lesbians on the other hand seem to have gone much more militant and anti-mainstream, with nonsense such as this. Interesting because for a long time back in the day lesbians were less abhorred by the mainstream than gay men.

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  87. @BenKenobi
    This list of demands is a buzzword salad.

    God I wish I could use a piece of steel rebar to shatter the orbital socket of a person who talks like this.

    You know, on the off chance it would knock some sense into them.

    The question remains though: to what extent are they sincere and to what extent is it just a resource shakedown? Those demands would steer a lot of money and jobs a certain way.

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  88. @Autochthon
    Speaking of hoaxes:You made me think for a moment I'd not heard about Hugh Hefner's death, which shocked me as implausible given how abreast of news I keep.

    Sure enough, your reports of Mr. Hefner's demise are greatly exaggerated. He is defininitely approaching lichdom, but not dead just yet. Perhaps the switch to online publication from paper saves him more money to put toward his phylactery....

    “Lichdom…”

    Love it!

    Reminds me of my DnD days.

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  89. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @dearieme
    Haven Monahan has asked me to report his sentiments:-


    I think we should all just put it behind us and move on.

    Putting it behind and moving on is one of my strengths.

    “I think we should all just put it behind us and move on.”

    The fictional Haven sounds like the real life Hillary’s strongest talking points.

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  90. UVA should also have a lawsuits against Rolling Stone. The Story was clearly designed to harm the reputation of UVA as much as the Fraternity system itself. The Frats should have generated a class action lawsuit against the perpetrators of this hate hoax.

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  91. @CJ
    While IANAL the problem seems to be that organizations have got to show actual financial damages in order to get big settlements. The Volokh lawblog in the Washington Post has gone into this in some detail. It looks like defaming a commercial business is a lot riskier than defaming a fraternity.

    C. The fraternity as an organization: Corporations and unincorporated associations that have recognized legal identities (such as unions, partnerships and the like) can also sue for defamation that causes injury to their organizational reputation, independently of whether any member was defamed. For instance, if someone falsely accuses a corporation of defrauding customers, this might hurt the corporation’s reputation even apart from injury to any particular employee’s reputation. And this is true even for nonprofit corporations, see, e.g., Lega Siciliana Social Club, Inc. v. St. Germain (Conn. Ct. App. 2003); Gorman v. Swaggart (La. Ct. App. 1988) (yes, that’s the Swaggart you’re thinking of). As the Restatement (Second) of Torts § 561(b) puts it,

    One who publishes defamatory matter concerning a corporation is subject to liability to it . . . if, although not for profit, it depends upon financial support from the public, and the matter tends to interfere with its activities by prejudicing it in public estimation.

    The allegations of such group misconduct at the fraternity house certainly do harm the fraternity as an organization “in public estimation.” Therefore, if the chapter has independent legal existence, whether as a corporation or as an unincorporated association, and if it can show loss of income from potential members or from donors — or other loss stemming from, for instance, punishment by the university — then it could potentially prevail on this. And the central fraternity could also sue for similar losses, on the theory that its reputation has been tarnished both at UVA and elsewhere.

    On the other hand, the organizations can’t recover damages for the emotional distress flowing from the injury to their reputations (since they lack emotions). Individuals can recover such emotional distress damage, even above and beyond actual lost income.
     
    So the suits from individuals have a better chance of lightening Wenner's wallet. OTOH, Volokh goes on to explain that the university literally cannot sue for defamation because it is a government institution.

    E. The university itself: The university cannot sue. New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (1964) famously held that government officials can prevail in defamation lawsuits only if they can show that the defendant knew the statement was false, or was reckless about the possibility of falsehood — but it also, less famously, held that government entities can’t sue for defamation, period, regardless of the defendant’s mental state:

    For good reason, no court of last resort in this country has ever held, or even suggested, that prosecutions for libel on government have any place in the American system of jurisprudence.
     
    Reading over the two Volokh pieces on defamation law, it becomes clear that Rolling Stone's journalistic modus operandi is based on taking advantages of the weak areas and avoiding the strong ones, like not saying anything defamatory about an actual company's actual products.

    Wenner didn’t make hundreds of millions of dollars by taking on fights he couldn’t survive.

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  92. @Moshe
    Yeah, buncha nuts. Lotsa interesting stuff here and even worthwhile comments but all this whining , wailing and moaning would make my Jewish mother seem cheery by comparison.

    I mean attacking, analyzing and explicating is fun but too many folk seem like they need some strong meds. They're the mirror image of the "wah, wah! Trump climate change! Wah wah!" obsessives.

    The AltRight was philosophy students jerking each off for so long and continuing their lifelong losing streak they don’t know how to win.

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  93. @Autochthon

    Thr guy who had to lie about his election predictions in a vain attempt to preserve his e-cred here and hasnt had a new thought outside of “we’re so doomed” shouldn’t be calling anyone a broken record.

    But lack of self awareness is pretty much par for many of you on here.

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    • Troll: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    You might even call us "Deplorables"

    BTW, your two consecutive posts contradict each other. HTH
  94. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yep, we are not up-beat enough for the guy, none of us. That's why he's so pissed off and down on everything.

    Sorry for the late reply, BTW. I was in the bathroom um, other room for a minute perusing reviews of John Derbyshire's We are Doomed.


    Hahahaa... great video!

    The dude who follows me around from thread to thread trying to stir up slapfights for attention from me declaring that anyone is “pissed off” is more of that lack of self awareness I’m talking about.

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  95. Rolling Stone and Spin should have a contest – Who’s More Pretentious ? The readers seem to be on to them though . The online comments at Spin were running heavily in favor of Morrissey after Spin attacked him for telling the truth . Man …….Can’t believe I checked the comments ….or admitted it here . ” Please Kill Me ” seems appropriate right about now LOL

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Time was when musicians themselves would call out these rags (and the parasitic suits* generally, as opposed to actual artists with talent making music) for their nonsense:

    The Source
    Spin (and about five or six others, as I recall; gotta love the shout out to Bob Guccione, Jr....)
    Rolling Stone

    (Hell, even
    these guys – not known for their artistic integrity – called out the pretension of and emptiness of it all...)

    Nowadays with the winner-take-all model, either you tell them all to piss right off on the model introduced by Marillion, or you play along and don't rock the boat so you can get your air-play in on Clear Channel and your video in the rotation of ten still played each week on eMpTyV.

    Journalism about music in particular is rife with hacks who wished they could have been musicians but didn't cut the mustard so they become obnoxious hangers-on and gossips, instead of hanging it up and moving on (or maybe continuing it as a hobby), like those of us good enough to know we were not good enough to be professional musicians. When the publications diversify content, as Rolling Stone did, the dysfunctional persons these magazines select for bring their defects and baggage into other articles not even related to music....

    *By the way, if you are ever in Nashville, Richard Marx occasionally plays gigs at the White Horse and similar venues; the guy's preposterously talented and underrated, super grounded and friendly, and man does he have stories about the "industry" – lots of successful musicians fed up with The Machine wind up in Nashville; not that Music Row doesn't have its own problems, but they are magnitudes less unbearable, and at least one can still afford to feed oneself in Nashville and not have one's children indoctrinated to hate themselves (give it ten years, though, for the metastasised cancer to come 'round...).
  96. @John Gruskos
    The frat should donate part of the proceeds to the victims of the Boston bombing, just to remind the world that Rolling Stone, the world's sleaziest magazine, tried to turn Tsarnaev into some sort of sex symbol.

    Why should the CIA’s false flag get more attention?

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  97. @Moshe
    "Spirit communities"?

    I assumed they meant NA but they mentioned indigenous separately.

    Do they mean New Age feminist religions? Voodoo and Santaria?

    “Spirit communities”?

    Hold on people, I think y’all meant “Spirits communities” “Spirits, as in “distilled spirits”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that would make the most sense in context. All it takes is one damn typo to really change the meaning in English. This wouldn’t be a problem in the 官话 language.

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  98. @Autochthon
    Speaking of hoaxes:You made me think for a moment I'd not heard about Hugh Hefner's death, which shocked me as implausible given how abreast of news I keep.

    Sure enough, your reports of Mr. Hefner's demise are greatly exaggerated. He is defininitely approaching lichdom, but not dead just yet. Perhaps the switch to online publication from paper saves him more money to put toward his phylactery....

    Did I say Hefner died? No. I said that Playboy will continue its print edition until he does die, then go online only. Hence my use of the future tense.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    You didn't say anything. You typed a few things (or at any rate you wrote them, perhaps you dictated them). You certainly implied the man's death, in part because your writing was unclear as to whether you meant the future tense to apply to one or both magazines.

    Now we are both niggling assholes.
  99. What would be a positive good is if the future careers of all of these evil-doers was tracked and documented.

    There are a number of people whose hiring could constitute criminal negligence.

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  100. @Kylie
    That'll buy some high dollar glass tables.

    That’ll buy some high dollar glass tables.

    And throw in a solid frame and headboard for that loose mattress.

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  101. @Alfa158
    I never thought there were enough gay Indians (casino not call center) to justify giving them their own category until I attended a graduation ceremony at UC Santa Cruz back in the oughts. The lesbian dean giving her speech kept referring to people who were Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Trans, Two Spirit. I just keep it short nowadays by using the acronym LBGTBBQ to make sure everyone is covered.
    BTW, for people not familiar with California culture, ideologically, UCSC makes Berkely look like Hillsdale College.

    LBGTBBQ

    I ain’t gettin’ my ribs from that joint!

    No, I’ll go to Famous Dave’s, founded by a one-spirit Indian.

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  102. @Kyle McKenna
    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.

    Maybe she’ll show up on The Bachelor next year?

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  103. @Kyle McKenna
    Before I found out how much Jann Wenner was worth, I would have been happy to see these modest settlements. Apparently he's worth more than $700 million, so he won't miss this. And does insurance pay for it anyway? If so, then it's coming out of your pocket and mine.

    It says almost all we need to know about our cultural moment that Barack Obama had Wenner over to the White House for coffee after the Eramo settlement. Solidarity!

    What little remains to be said comes about when I talk to my (sadly liberal but well-informed, they think) friends who know nothing of the lawsuits, much less their dispositions. They know some questions were raised about the Rolling Stone story, but such questions were probably 'fake news'... I mean, you can't blame Jackie just because she got a couple trivial details wrong...she was traumatised after all...

    Maybe you should ditch your clueless liberal friends & make smart ones.

    Smart libs are in the know about this.

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  104. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    OT but ……………….

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/06/13/witness-mosque-paid-doctor-perform-genital-cuttings-girls/394104001/

    A local mosque was paying a physician to perform female genital mutilation on young girls, an attorney serving as a guardian for the doctor’s children alleged in court Tuesday.

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  105. @AKAHorace
    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

    Lysenko theories now and forever.

    Geez, if we’re such an incredible burden to live amongst, just *go away*–live by yourselves–and leave the rest of us in peace.

    That’s pretty much the summation of the modern left’s ideology: white guys are the source of all evil … and everyone else must be welcome to come and live amongst them.

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  106. Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and “deeply regrets” funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting…

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    “I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today’s discussion,” Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. “It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

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    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/13/a-top-uber-board-member-just-cracked-a-joke-about-women-at-the-worst-possible-time/

    Political correctness is NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    Given the groveling apology came 6 hours before the resignation, I wonder if that was how long Uber Head Person of Color Eric Holder decided that was not enough.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”
     
    He should get points for deciphering Arianna's own, which I've always found impossible to do.

    I swear, the woman peaked at 23.


    apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting…
     
    Stokely Carmichael's crack about women's position in the movement being "prone" was also meant to be a joke, but that, as in this case, detracts nothing from its veracity. Ask Paula, Kathleen, and Juanita!
    , @guest
    Only Nazis think women talk more than men.

    But that's not why this guy's on the hot seat. Rather, it's because he interrupted a woman while she was talking.
    , @guest
    By the,way, why is anyone listening to Huffington on anything? Can't they slap her name on whatever and have her call in favors from all the rich old men she's "dated" without having to listen to her talk?
    , @Lurker

    I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it.”
     
    What about the 99% who almost certainly don't give a shit about the offending remark or even *gasp* found it funny?

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?
  107. @AKAHorace
    Breaking news,

    Progressive accepts genetics as a factor in ethnic group behaviour

    https://theestablishment.co/for-jewish-people-trauma-is-passed-down-across-generations-bf9aa503778b

    Not breaking. From 2016. Pretty sure Steve blogged this too.

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  108. Read More
    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Delightful story! Pretty much nails our racial zeitgeist, and serves as a microcosm for the society as a whole.

    For a story of relatively small scope, it really has everything. I can see why the national media has ignored it.

  109. @Lot
    Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    ---

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and "deeply regrets" funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting...

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    ...

    "I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today's discussion," Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. "It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/13/a-top-uber-board-member-just-cracked-a-joke-about-women-at-the-worst-possible-time/

    Political correctness is NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    Given the groveling apology came 6 hours before the resignation, I wonder if that was how long Uber Head Person of Color Eric Holder decided that was not enough.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Thanks. All of us could use a Lyft.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    Schadenfreude, schadenfreude, schadenfreude..............
    , @PiltdownMan

    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.
     
    Not necessarily a bad thing, from his point of view. He doesn't have to take responsibility for the impossible task of changing techdude corporate culture at the firm, just preserving his investment or exiting.
  110. @Lot
    Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    ---

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and "deeply regrets" funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting...

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    ...

    "I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today's discussion," Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. "It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

    “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    He should get points for deciphering Arianna’s own, which I’ve always found impossible to do.

    I swear, the woman peaked at 23.

    apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting…

    Stokely Carmichael’s crack about women’s position in the movement being “prone” was also meant to be a joke, but that, as in this case, detracts nothing from its veracity. Ask Paula, Kathleen, and Juanita!

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  111. @Lot
    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/13/a-top-uber-board-member-just-cracked-a-joke-about-women-at-the-worst-possible-time/

    Political correctness is NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    Given the groveling apology came 6 hours before the resignation, I wonder if that was how long Uber Head Person of Color Eric Holder decided that was not enough.

    Thanks. All of us could use a Lyft.

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  112. @Jack D
    RS was very lucky that Haven Monahan is a fictional character and unable to sue for damages. The three Duke lacrosse players were rumored to have received $20 million each (from Duke).

    $20 million each (from Duke).

    That is it? So Duke pays to erase their egregious sins? It is a travesty. A just settlement would put the eighty plus professors ignorantly testifying to the guilt of the innocent out of work in the grove. They would have to get honest work elsewhere.

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  113. @Kyle McKenna
    Now that was clever. Meanwhile Jackie, of course, is now happily married (if the wedding photos online are any indication) and pregnant for all I know. At any rate she has a new name and will be harder to find than Tawana Brawley. I do hope her husband is really careful around her.

    Wonder how many girls DIDN’T meet Mr. Right because they were scared to socialize on campus, thanks to Jackie.

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  114. @Lot
    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/13/a-top-uber-board-member-just-cracked-a-joke-about-women-at-the-worst-possible-time/

    Political correctness is NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    Given the groveling apology came 6 hours before the resignation, I wonder if that was how long Uber Head Person of Color Eric Holder decided that was not enough.

    Lot:

    Schadenfreude, schadenfreude, schadenfreude…………..

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  115. @Art Deco
    OT: When did everyone quit talking about developing Latin America? It’s about 7 million square miles of grinding poverty.

    It isn't. When you bracket out the natural resource rents and the hyptertrophied share accruing to the most affluent decile, real income per capita in Latin American countries clusters around that of the United States ca. 1942. Measures of public health (e.g. life expectancy at birth) are characteristic of the United States ca. 1980 while educational metrics (e.g. literacy rates) suggest early 20th century America. You have some comparatively small countries which are quite a bit poorer than that (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Paraguay) and you have countries which are horrendously mismanaged (Venezuela, Cuba). Latin America's most salient problem is street crime. Homicide rates are generally 2.5x to 5x those of the United States (which is not the most tranquil of occidental countries). Generative of that is institutional dysfunction: corruption and lassitude in the apparat and the court system. Crime, indifferent tax collection, confused land titles, ant heaps of poorly considered and poorly enforced regulation....

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor.

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor

    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    A lot of the people who settled in South Carolina came from Barbados. A good portion of them were transported by legal authorities in England or were indentured servants.

    I do not think that any anti-White murderousness of the sort that happened in Haiti would have been tolerated in Barbados. The people in power kept a lid on the frenzied violence of both the Blacks and the Whites.
    , @Autochthon

    [I]it is still not safe by US [sic] standards.
     
    Being safe – from crime or even contagion nowadays – by American standards is increasingly analogous to being technologically sophisticated by Sentinelese standards.

    America was only safe, clean, and otherwise worthwhile when it was filled with, and run by, Americans. Breaking news: It's not the dirt, it's the demography (cf.Rhodesia).
    , @Art Deco
    One of Lewis Amselem (Diplomad 2.0)'s earlier postings was in Guyana. He said that he and his wife and their friends went nowhere unarmed. He also painted a portrait of Georgetown as hopelessly decrepit (e.g. the local cinema was infested with bats flying around you). That was around about 1978.
    , @Jack D
    Haiti was the Pearl of the Antilles - the richest colony in the Caribbean. That a small island supports 10 million shows how rich it is. It's just that its demographics drove it toward its Malthusian maximum carrying capacity. Instead of having a half a million wealthy people they have 10 million who are grindingly poor.
  116. @Lot
    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/13/a-top-uber-board-member-just-cracked-a-joke-about-women-at-the-worst-possible-time/

    Political correctness is NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    Given the groveling apology came 6 hours before the resignation, I wonder if that was how long Uber Head Person of Color Eric Holder decided that was not enough.

    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.

    Not necessarily a bad thing, from his point of view. He doesn’t have to take responsibility for the impossible task of changing techdude corporate culture at the firm, just preserving his investment or exiting.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Also, he won't be forced to listen to all the new board members gossip about needlepoint.
  117. @Lot
    Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    ---

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and "deeply regrets" funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting...

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    ...

    "I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today's discussion," Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. "It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

    Only Nazis think women talk more than men.

    But that’s not why this guy’s on the hot seat. Rather, it’s because he interrupted a woman while she was talking.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    The NYT and WP are full of "man dares to interrupt woman" stories lately. But let's be honest -- some women talk nonstop and interrupting them is the only way to get people to focus on things like tasks and goals.
    , @Art Deco
    The man in question is an academic philosopher. Iif you do get on the subject they cogitate about, it can be like throwing a switch. I recall stopping in at a local cafe late at night to see a neighbor with a pair of his students. Ordinarily, this man was quiet. He rattled on and on and on in an hours long monologue. I think he called it a night around 2:00 am. (No, I don't recall what I was doing there at the time). You could happen upon a philosophy department interview at a local eatery, and see the same thing. (That particular institution had a large philosophy department with an ample supply of majors, so they hired every year).
  118. @PiltdownMan

    Update: the joke cost him his board seat.
     
    Not necessarily a bad thing, from his point of view. He doesn't have to take responsibility for the impossible task of changing techdude corporate culture at the firm, just preserving his investment or exiting.

    Also, he won’t be forced to listen to all the new board members gossip about needlepoint.

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  119. @Lot
    Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    ---

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and "deeply regrets" funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting...

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    ...

    "I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today's discussion," Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. "It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

    By the,way, why is anyone listening to Huffington on anything? Can’t they slap her name on whatever and have her call in favors from all the rich old men she’s “dated” without having to listen to her talk?

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  120. OT:

    The Warriors don’t want to meet with President Trump.

    You Tube comments are notoriously irrational, but these are loaded with race hatred.

    I think I’ve had my fill of the NBA.

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    • Replies: @guest
    I'm sure Donny Tinyhands will cry himself to sleep if Stephanie Curry doesn't stop by his house.
    , @EriK
    They were invited?
  121. OT:

    Don’t call students ‘genius’ because word is associated with men, Cambridge lecturers told

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/06/12/cambridge-university-examiners-told-avoid-using-words-like-flair/

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Whatever you do, don't tell them that the word "woman" includes the word "man".
  122. @Reg Cæsar

    LBGTBBQ
     
    I ain't gettin' my ribs from that joint!

    No, I'll go to Famous Dave's, founded by a one-spirit Indian.

    LGBTQWERTY

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  123. Sweet!

    Me and Haven are gonna buy an early edition of Notes on the State of Virginia and then head down to Cabo to par-tay!

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  124. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack Hanson
    Thr guy who had to lie about his election predictions in a vain attempt to preserve his e-cred here and hasnt had a new thought outside of "we're so doomed" shouldn't be calling anyone a broken record.

    But lack of self awareness is pretty much par for many of you on here.

    You might even call us “Deplorables”

    BTW, your two consecutive posts contradict each other. HTH

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  125. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @guest
    Only Nazis think women talk more than men.

    But that's not why this guy's on the hot seat. Rather, it's because he interrupted a woman while she was talking.

    The NYT and WP are full of “man dares to interrupt woman” stories lately. But let’s be honest — some women talk nonstop and interrupting them is the only way to get people to focus on things like tasks and goals.

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  126. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @PiltdownMan
    OT:

    Don't call students 'genius' because word is associated with men, Cambridge lecturers told

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/06/12/cambridge-university-examiners-told-avoid-using-words-like-flair/
     

    Whatever you do, don’t tell them that the word “woman” includes the word “man”.

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  127. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iphone
    OT but very funny and right in Steve's backyard: https://patch.com/california/northridge/thief-uses-racial-guilt-trips-steal-iphones

    Delightful story! Pretty much nails our racial zeitgeist, and serves as a microcosm for the society as a whole.

    For a story of relatively small scope, it really has everything. I can see why the national media has ignored it.

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  128. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Random Dude on the Internet
    It seems like a lot but considering that Jann Wenner is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars, this is hardly anything. All this really did was teach Rolling Stone to cover their tracks just a little more the next time they blatantly lie. Meanwhile Chuck Johnson, the guy who made enough noise to get the counternarrative traction is essentially persona non grata from the internet. All in all this is a victory for the left.

    Rolling Stone is probably not making the kind of ROI hedgefunders like to see, but it still makes money. It still has cachet. People still want to be “on the cover of the Rolling Stone”. Advertisers spend money to be in it, because there are perks to be a buyer of it for the corporate minions that give it the okay. And because it still has a readership of boomers , some of which came into daddy’s money in the last ten years and still have some left. Not until the last boomers are dead or in nursing homes shitting themselves will the enterprise fold and vanish as if it had never been.

    I agree that it would have been just to nail Wenner for a sizable chunk of his net worth, but I don’t know what his liability would have been-is he sole owner? Isn’t it incorporated? I can’t believe he’d be dumb enough to operate without substantial legal insulation from judgments….what if the wrong rock star OD’d in his office?

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  129. @Lot
    Some Jew News from today:

    Warren Buffet loves Israel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-berkshire-buffett-israel-idUSKBN1932GB

    ---

    75-year-old Jewish billionaire apologizes and "deeply regrets" funny joke about women.

    Uber Technologies Inc board member David Bonderman apologized on Tuesday for a comment he made about women at an all-staff meeting...

    The ill-timed remark came as Uber board member Arianna Huffington was informing employees of the importance of increasing the diversity of the board.

    “There is a lot of data that shows that when there is one woman on the board, it’s much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board.”

    Without missing a beat, Bonderman interrupts her to say, “Actually, what it shows is it’s much more likely to be more talking.”

    ...

    "I want to apologize to my fellow board member for a disrespectful comment that was directed at her during today's discussion," Bonderman said in the email, which Uber sent to Reuters. "It was inappropriate. I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bonderman

    I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it.”

    What about the 99% who almost certainly don’t give a shit about the offending remark or even *gasp* found it funny?

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?

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    • Replies: @guest
    "what qualifies Ms Huffpo to be on the board anyway?"

    Her CV is full of job experience in the field of blows.
    , @PiltdownMan

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?
     
    She's a member of the plutocracy.
  130. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @JohnnyD
    As Steve pointed out, back in November, Jann Wenner was still invited to the White House to discuss "fake news." It's almost as if "fake news" is really news that challenges "the narrative."

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/fake-news-impressario-jann-wenner-interviews-president-eject-obama-about-the-scourge-of-fake-news/

    In other rock and roll news, Keith Richards has survived Anita Pallenberg, who died today at 73.
    She had three of his children, one of which died as an infant.

    Is this guy immortal or what?

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    Is this guy immortal or what?
     
    Yeah, and you people pooh-poohed all the drugs that he was taking, didn't you?
  131. @Formerly CARealist
    OT:

    The Warriors don't want to meet with President Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL7Vr9iKbtM

    You Tube comments are notoriously irrational, but these are loaded with race hatred.

    I think I've had my fill of the NBA.

    I’m sure Donny Tinyhands will cry himself to sleep if Stephanie Curry doesn’t stop by his house.

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  132. @Lurker

    I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it.”
     
    What about the 99% who almost certainly don't give a shit about the offending remark or even *gasp* found it funny?

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?

    “what qualifies Ms Huffpo to be on the board anyway?”

    Her CV is full of job experience in the field of blows.

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  133. @Lurker

    I also want to apologize to all Uber employees who were offended by the remark. I deeply regret it.”
     
    What about the 99% who almost certainly don't give a shit about the offending remark or even *gasp* found it funny?

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?

    And what qualifies Ms HuffPo to be on the board anyway?

    She’s a member of the plutocracy.

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  134. @Njguy73
    Did I say Hefner died? No. I said that Playboy will continue its print edition until he does die, then go online only. Hence my use of the future tense.

    You didn’t say anything. You typed a few things (or at any rate you wrote them, perhaps you dictated them). You certainly implied the man’s death, in part because your writing was unclear as to whether you meant the future tense to apply to one or both magazines.

    Now we are both niggling assholes.

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    • Replies: @grapesoda
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/say

    Definition of say

    transitive verb

    1
    a : to express in words : stateb : to state as opinion or belief : declare

    2
    a : utter, pronounceb : recite, repeat say your prayers

    3
    a : indicate, show the clock says five minutes after twelveb : to give expression to : communicate a glance that said all that was necessary

    4
    : suppose, assume let's say you're right

    This might surprise you Comic Book Guy but, words sometimes have more than one meaning or usage. NJ Guy was using "say" in the sense of meaning number 1, while you were mistakenly assuming that meaning number 2 was the only possible meaning. Note also that the sense in which NJ Guy used the word is given precedence here, which is completely correct.

    To simplify this for you, to "say" something doesn't just mean to physically articulate it.
  135. @PiltdownMan

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor
     
    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

    A lot of the people who settled in South Carolina came from Barbados. A good portion of them were transported by legal authorities in England or were indentured servants.

    I do not think that any anti-White murderousness of the sort that happened in Haiti would have been tolerated in Barbados. The people in power kept a lid on the frenzied violence of both the Blacks and the Whites.

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  136. @Waylon 347
    Rolling Stone and Spin should have a contest - Who's More Pretentious ? The readers seem to be on to them though . The online comments at Spin were running heavily in favor of Morrissey after Spin attacked him for telling the truth . Man .......Can't believe I checked the comments ....or admitted it here . " Please Kill Me " seems appropriate right about now LOL

    Time was when musicians themselves would call out these rags (and the parasitic suits* generally, as opposed to actual artists with talent making music) for their nonsense:

    The Source
    Spin (and about five or six others, as I recall; gotta love the shout out to Bob Guccione, Jr….)
    Rolling Stone

    (Hell, even these guys – not known for their artistic integrity – called out the pretension of and emptiness of it all…)

    Nowadays with the winner-take-all model, either you tell them all to piss right off on the model introduced by Marillion, or you play along and don’t rock the boat so you can get your air-play in on Clear Channel and your video in the rotation of ten still played each week on eMpTyV.

    Journalism about music in particular is rife with hacks who wished they could have been musicians but didn’t cut the mustard so they become obnoxious hangers-on and gossips, instead of hanging it up and moving on (or maybe continuing it as a hobby), like those of us good enough to know we were not good enough to be professional musicians. When the publications diversify content, as Rolling Stone did, the dysfunctional persons these magazines select for bring their defects and baggage into other articles not even related to music….

    *By the way, if you are ever in Nashville, Richard Marx occasionally plays gigs at the White Horse and similar venues; the guy’s preposterously talented and underrated, super grounded and friendly, and man does he have stories about the “industry” – lots of successful musicians fed up with The Machine wind up in Nashville; not that Music Row doesn’t have its own problems, but they are magnitudes less unbearable, and at least one can still afford to feed oneself in Nashville and not have one’s children indoctrinated to hate themselves (give it ten years, though, for the metastasised cancer to come ’round…).

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  137. @PiltdownMan

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor
     
    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

    [I]it is still not safe by US [sic] standards.

    Being safe – from crime or even contagion nowadays – by American standards is increasingly analogous to being technologically sophisticated by Sentinelese standards.

    America was only safe, clean, and otherwise worthwhile when it was filled with, and run by, Americans. Breaking news: It’s not the dirt, it’s the demography (cf.Rhodesia).

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The suburban world I grew up decades ago had an ample supply of litter and exhaust fumes (more than it does today). That my mother grew up in was heated with home coal furnaces, so, not clean.
  138. @Anonymous
    In other rock and roll news, Keith Richards has survived Anita Pallenberg, who died today at 73.
    She had three of his children, one of which died as an infant.

    Is this guy immortal or what?

    Is this guy immortal or what?

    Yeah, and you people pooh-poohed all the drugs that he was taking, didn’t you?

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  139. @Autochthon
    You didn't say anything. You typed a few things (or at any rate you wrote them, perhaps you dictated them). You certainly implied the man's death, in part because your writing was unclear as to whether you meant the future tense to apply to one or both magazines.

    Now we are both niggling assholes.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/say

    Definition of say

    transitive verb

    1
    a : to express in words : stateb : to state as opinion or belief : declare

    2
    a : utter, pronounceb : recite, repeat say your prayers

    3
    a : indicate, show the clock says five minutes after twelveb : to give expression to : communicate a glance that said all that was necessary

    4
    : suppose, assume let’s say you’re right

    This might surprise you Comic Book Guy but, words sometimes have more than one meaning or usage. NJ Guy was using “say” in the sense of meaning number 1, while you were mistakenly assuming that meaning number 2 was the only possible meaning. Note also that the sense in which NJ Guy used the word is given precedence here, which is completely correct.

    To simplify this for you, to “say” something doesn’t just mean to physically articulate it.

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    Tell me more, Dreamboat; you are sexy when you are casuistic. (◕‿-)
  140. @guest
    I'm sure Donny Tinyhands will cry himself to sleep if Stephanie Curry doesn't stop by his house.

    too bad it’s probably fake.

    I believed YouTube. Sad!

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  141. America was only safe, clean, and otherwise worthwhile when it was filled with, and run by, Americans. Breaing news: It’s not the dirt, it’s the demography (cf.Rhodesia).

    Again, every category of index crime has declined in frequency over the last 25 years (by at least 1/3, depending on the type of crime). Burglary is no more common than it was in 1960, auto theft no more common than it was in 1963, and robbery no more common than it was in 1967.

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  142. @Autochthon

    [I]it is still not safe by US [sic] standards.
     
    Being safe – from crime or even contagion nowadays – by American standards is increasingly analogous to being technologically sophisticated by Sentinelese standards.

    America was only safe, clean, and otherwise worthwhile when it was filled with, and run by, Americans. Breaking news: It's not the dirt, it's the demography (cf.Rhodesia).

    The suburban world I grew up decades ago had an ample supply of litter and exhaust fumes (more than it does today). That my mother grew up in was heated with home coal furnaces, so, not clean.

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    Your points are taken, but they are neither here nor there, unless perhaps your position is that progress reducing industrial and atmospheric pollution can only be had if we permit people to urinate in the streets. (Though I do not say it is yours, I reject and ridicule this premise: Americans reduced pollution all the while refraining, by and large, from pissing in the streets; it is only relatively recent overpopulation fueled by invaders and the concomitant decline in decency and order which facilitate the latter vile activity.)
  143. @PiltdownMan

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor
     
    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

    One of Lewis Amselem (Diplomad 2.0)’s earlier postings was in Guyana. He said that he and his wife and their friends went nowhere unarmed. He also painted a portrait of Georgetown as hopelessly decrepit (e.g. the local cinema was infested with bats flying around you). That was around about 1978.

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    Thank you for the link to Diplomad 2.0. I met Amselem in 1978. He was a consular officer. The line outside the American embassy in Georgetown, every morning, was about a hundred yards long. Guyana is one of the few Third World countries that has seen a decrease in population in the decades since, thanks to emigration.
  144. @guest
    Only Nazis think women talk more than men.

    But that's not why this guy's on the hot seat. Rather, it's because he interrupted a woman while she was talking.

    The man in question is an academic philosopher. Iif you do get on the subject they cogitate about, it can be like throwing a switch. I recall stopping in at a local cafe late at night to see a neighbor with a pair of his students. Ordinarily, this man was quiet. He rattled on and on and on in an hours long monologue. I think he called it a night around 2:00 am. (No, I don’t recall what I was doing there at the time). You could happen upon a philosophy department interview at a local eatery, and see the same thing. (That particular institution had a large philosophy department with an ample supply of majors, so they hired every year).

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  145. Not to feed the wolves, but has anyone here been following the Penn State (Beta Theta Pi) case?

    http://6abc.com/news/timeline-stunning-details-in-penn-state-frat-death/1976183/

    The frat boys exhibited a sociopathic lack of regard for a grievously-injured kid who, by their own admission, already looked like he was dead. They were more interested in covering up their own misdeeds:

    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/crime_courts/article_1c1e6914-350c-11e7-b3b1-436b96fe269f.html

    (He was a pledge. True, no one put a gun to his head and forced him to do anything. But this kid fell down a 15-foot flight of stairs – twice – and no one called for help for 12 hours.)

    Also, this story is several days old now, but have you read about the self-described tranny (man-born-man) who murdered three of his co-workers in cold blood? He posted gigabytes’ worth of videos and pictures of himself on YouTube and various other sites:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584406/Four-people-shot-dead-murder-suicide-supermarket.html

    Is there any doubt that we are living in the Golden (Dark) Age of Narcissism?

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    Teenage boys (and those who are just beyond) are not known for their good judgment - their brains are not quite fully baked. This is why in the past they were always given adult supervision, so they could be mowed down by enemy machine gun fire instead of being left to their own devices where they would cause trouble. Over the top, boys!
  146. @Formerly CARealist
    OT:

    The Warriors don't want to meet with President Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL7Vr9iKbtM

    You Tube comments are notoriously irrational, but these are loaded with race hatred.

    I think I've had my fill of the NBA.

    They were invited?

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  147. @Art Deco
    The suburban world I grew up decades ago had an ample supply of litter and exhaust fumes (more than it does today). That my mother grew up in was heated with home coal furnaces, so, not clean.

    Your points are taken, but they are neither here nor there, unless perhaps your position is that progress reducing industrial and atmospheric pollution can only be had if we permit people to urinate in the streets. (Though I do not say it is yours, I reject and ridicule this premise: Americans reduced pollution all the while refraining, by and large, from pissing in the streets; it is only relatively recent overpopulation fueled by invaders and the concomitant decline in decency and order which facilitate the latter vile activity.)

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  148. @grapesoda
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/say

    Definition of say

    transitive verb

    1
    a : to express in words : stateb : to state as opinion or belief : declare

    2
    a : utter, pronounceb : recite, repeat say your prayers

    3
    a : indicate, show the clock says five minutes after twelveb : to give expression to : communicate a glance that said all that was necessary

    4
    : suppose, assume let's say you're right

    This might surprise you Comic Book Guy but, words sometimes have more than one meaning or usage. NJ Guy was using "say" in the sense of meaning number 1, while you were mistakenly assuming that meaning number 2 was the only possible meaning. Note also that the sense in which NJ Guy used the word is given precedence here, which is completely correct.

    To simplify this for you, to "say" something doesn't just mean to physically articulate it.

    Tell me more, Dreamboat; you are sexy when you are casuistic. (◕‿-)

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  149. @PiltdownMan

    The small non-Latin Caribbean countries (sovereign and dependent alike) tend to be more affluent, but most still have a big problem with street crime (Barbados and Martinique notable exceptions). The larger non-Latin Caribbean countries (Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica) are poorer and about as disorderly. Haiti actually is grindingly poor
     
    Actually Guyana and Suriname are large only in terms of land area, compared to the other two. Both have a populations under a million. Suriname has about 500,000 and Guyana about 700,000. By contrast, Jamaica has more than 2.5 million and Haiti has about 20 times as many people as Suriname, at 10 million+.

    About four decades ago, after college, I spent several months in the Caribbean as a very junior economics researcher, spending the most time in Guyana. The street crime and general homicidal political thuggery back then was off the charts. Most mornings, driving around, you would see a body or two propped up against the traffic lights as some kind of chilling partisan warning. I understand it is a whole lot better now, but it is still not safe by US standards.

    By contrast, Barbados was a prosperous and safe middle-income country, whose people were exceptionally genial and civilized. It reminded me of Bermuda, in some ways. Time has moved on, but I understand Barbados itself still has a lot of those qualities, though, as dearieme points out, its emigrant youth succumb to Jamaican rude-boy culture in the great West Indian overseas ghettoes of the UK and Canada.

    Haiti was the Pearl of the Antilles – the richest colony in the Caribbean. That a small island supports 10 million shows how rich it is. It’s just that its demographics drove it toward its Malthusian maximum carrying capacity. Instead of having a half a million wealthy people they have 10 million who are grindingly poor.

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  150. @Stan Adams
    Not to feed the wolves, but has anyone here been following the Penn State (Beta Theta Pi) case?
    http://6abc.com/news/timeline-stunning-details-in-penn-state-frat-death/1976183/

    The frat boys exhibited a sociopathic lack of regard for a grievously-injured kid who, by their own admission, already looked like he was dead. They were more interested in covering up their own misdeeds:
    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/crime_courts/article_1c1e6914-350c-11e7-b3b1-436b96fe269f.html

    (He was a pledge. True, no one put a gun to his head and forced him to do anything. But this kid fell down a 15-foot flight of stairs - twice - and no one called for help for 12 hours.)

    Also, this story is several days old now, but have you read about the self-described tranny (man-born-man) who murdered three of his co-workers in cold blood? He posted gigabytes' worth of videos and pictures of himself on YouTube and various other sites:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584406/Four-people-shot-dead-murder-suicide-supermarket.html

    Is there any doubt that we are living in the Golden (Dark) Age of Narcissism?

    Teenage boys (and those who are just beyond) are not known for their good judgment – their brains are not quite fully baked. This is why in the past they were always given adult supervision, so they could be mowed down by enemy machine gun fire instead of being left to their own devices where they would cause trouble. Over the top, boys!

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  151. Perhaps Rolling Stone was compensated for its losses by the Anti-White coalition … and we will likely continue to see assaults on white males in the news.

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  152. @Art Deco
    One of Lewis Amselem (Diplomad 2.0)'s earlier postings was in Guyana. He said that he and his wife and their friends went nowhere unarmed. He also painted a portrait of Georgetown as hopelessly decrepit (e.g. the local cinema was infested with bats flying around you). That was around about 1978.

    Thank you for the link to Diplomad 2.0. I met Amselem in 1978. He was a consular officer. The line outside the American embassy in Georgetown, every morning, was about a hundred yards long. Guyana is one of the few Third World countries that has seen a decrease in population in the decades since, thanks to emigration.

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    I believe Guyana is in the #1 spot worldwide for the percentage of its population that now lives in the US.
  153. @Olorin
    Well there's that well-remunerated prof at UW Seattle reported last week as asserting that Trump getting elected is going to cause literal Post Trump Stress Disorder that causes "genetic shifts."

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/08/biology-professor-trumps-presidency-will-permanently-alter-human-genetics/

    Ward argued that significant traumas — like abuse or military combat — can cause “permanent change” to the human genome. He went on to suggest Trump’s presidency is akin to those traumas and will have an “evolutionary consequence” on humanity.

    “We’re finding more and more that, for instance, people who have gone through combat, or women who have been abused — when you have these horrendous episodes in life, it causes permanent change, which is then passed on to your kids,” he said. “These are actual genetic shifts that are taking place within people.”

    Those shifts, Ward contended, “can cause huge evolutionary change.”

    He added: “On a larger scale, the amount of stress that Americans are going through now, because of Trump — there is going to be an evolutionary consequence.”
     

    There will be "genetic shifts" alright...but not of the kind he's asserting. :D

    On remuneration, I saw a comment somewhere saying he made upwards of $130K per year. I checked it against various WA state public employee databases and it seems to be accurate.

    I presume that's for 9 months of work, and not counting benefits or grants bootstrapped with the U-Dub faculty seat.

    I bet he’s thinking (probably somewhat fuzzily) about epigenetics.

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  154. Likely close to accurate, though I would hesitate to use the word “thinking” in this context. Or even epigenetics. It’s more like trying to keep the dying corpse of PC alive in the biological sciences (where these poseurs never actually trod…or did so only en pointe and ready to flee with a stage-wire at the first sign of being called a heretic).

    It’s like Evergreen prof Bret Weinstein telling his students that your genes BY NATURE want stuff that is WRONG and BAD, but you can talk-therapy them out of it.

    The example I saw him giving in NeoUnrealist’s YouTube clip was: your genes will tell you that it is a good thing to like someone more resembling you more than you like someone very different on the other side of the planet.

    But we all know that to be racist, so you just have to sit your genes down and set them straight.

    That’s not epigenetics. That’s Frankfurt School. And a weird morph of “I’ll Show My Parents I Don’t Think Like Them, Screw You, Family!”

    I’m told Weinstein and his wife do not have children. Though they do talk a lot about their cats.

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  155. @Buffalo Joe
    Olorin, remember when scientists studied a premise for more than, oh let's say six months, which the time Trump has been in office. Evolutionary and genetic change caused by Trump's six month legacy. Were there any genetic changes and evolutionary changes caused by Stalin's or Pot Pol's reigns of terror.

    I’d say that Stalin and Pol Pot certainly affected population distributions in their respective countries.

    So: yes.

    But that’s not what this prof is talking about. But if he were, it would be excrement since these nitwits are equating precisely that sort of hemoclysm with the lawful election of a public figure they happen to hate, whose election surprised them in the extreme because they trapped themselves in their own Blue bell jar and are suffocating.

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  156. @PiltdownMan
    Thank you for the link to Diplomad 2.0. I met Amselem in 1978. He was a consular officer. The line outside the American embassy in Georgetown, every morning, was about a hundred yards long. Guyana is one of the few Third World countries that has seen a decrease in population in the decades since, thanks to emigration.

    I believe Guyana is in the #1 spot worldwide for the percentage of its population that now lives in the US.

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