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From Rolling Stone:

A Note to Our Readers

BY ROLLING STONE | December 5, 2014

To Our Readers:

Last month, Rolling Stone published a story titled “A Rape on Campus” by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, which described a brutal gang rape of a woman named Jackie at a University of Virginia fraternity house; the university’s failure to respond to this alleged assault – and the school’s troubling history of indifference to many other instances of alleged sexual assaults. The story generated worldwide headlines and much soul-searching at UVA. University president Teresa Sullivan promised a full investigation and also to examine the way the school responds to sexual assault allegations.

Because of the sensitive nature of Jackie’s story, we decided to honor her request not to contact the man she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her. In the months Erdely spent reporting the story, Jackie neither said nor did anything that made Erdely, or Rolling Stone’s editors and fact-checkers, question Jackie’s credibility. Her friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported Jackie’s account. She had spoken of the assault in campus forums. We reached out to both the local branch and the national leadership of the fraternity where Jackie said she was attacked. They responded that they couldn’t confirm or deny her story but had concerns about the evidence.

In the face of new information, there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie’s account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced. We were trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault and now regret the decision to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account. We are taking this seriously and apologize to anyone who was affected by the story.

Will Dana
Managing Editor

My Taki’s Magazine article from earlier this week, “A Rape Hoax for Book Lovers,” details the timeline by which this blog brought Richard Bradley’s skepticism to media attention:

A timeline of how Richard Bradley’s critique finally made its way to the general public may be of interest.

A reader kindly alerted me to Bradley’s post on November 24th. I made four scattershot comments on it on November 25th, beginning with my question:

Wouldn’t the rapists get cut by the broken glass all over the floor, too? I guess they were such sex-crazed animals that they didn’t notice the glass cutting their hands and knees for the first three hours.

I continued to mull over the issues that had been raised. (I hate being publicly wrong, so I’m cautious.) On the 27th I returned to Bradley’s blog to find I was still the only commenter, and added a fifth:

Sorry to keep coming back to this, but I’ve done some more thinking and here’s where the story falls apart: pitch darkness _and_ broken glass on the floor. The glass table is smashed, but nobody turns on the light to see what happened or where the broken glass is? Instead, each man, having heard the glass table get smashed, still gets down on the floor covered with shards of broken glass, risking not only his hands and knees, but also pulling out an even more personal part of his anatomy, one that he only has one of.

Really?

By the 29th I was still the only commenter, but I finally felt confident enough that there were major problems with the Rolling Stone account to link to Bradley’s critique from my iSteve blog at the Unz Review.

That opened the floodgates. Comments finally poured in to Bradley’s blog [initially overwhelmingly from my readers]. And on the first two days of December, numerous well-known publications weighed in with skeptical assessments based on Bradley’s analysis: Robby Soave at Reason, Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit, Megan McArdle at Bloomberg, Ashe Schow at the Washington Examiner, Bret Stephens at the Wall Street Journal, Judith Shulevitz at The New Republic, Jonah Goldberg at the Los Angeles Times, and Erik Wemple at the Washington Post.

Read the whole thing there.

UPDATE: The Washington Post has just published within the last hour a new article full of new reporting.

Key elements of Rolling Stone’s U-Va. gang rape allegations in doubt

By T. Rees Shapiro December 5 at 2:25 PM

Several key aspects of the account of a gang rape offered by a University of Virginia student in Rolling Stone magazine have been cast into doubt, including the date of the alleged attack and details about the alleged attacker, according to interviews and a statement from the magazine backing away from the article.

The U-Va. fraternity chapter where the alleged attack took place in September 2012 released a statement Friday afternoon denying that such an assault took place in its house. Phi Kappa Psi said that it has been working with police to determine whether the account of a brutal rape at a party there was true. The fraternity members say that several important elements of the allegations were false.

A group of Jackie’s close friends, who are sex assault awareness advocates at U-Va., said they believe something traumatic happened to Jackie but also have come to doubt her account. They said details have changed over time, and they have not been able to verify key points of the story in recent days. A name of an alleged attacker that Jackie provided to them for the first time this week, for example, turned out to be similar to the name of a student who belongs to a different fraternity, and no one by that name has been a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

Reached by phone, that man, a U-Va. graduate, said Friday that he did work at the Aquatic Fitness Center and was familiar with Jackie’s name. He said, however, that he had never met Jackie in person and had never taken her on a date. He also said that he was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

The fraternity — which has been vilified, had its house vandalized

Another night of broken glass

and ultimately suspended all of its activities on campus after the Rolling Stone article — said in its statement Friday that it had immediate concerns about the story and has been working [to] figure out what happened.

“Our initial doubts as to the accuracy of the article have only been strengthened as alumni and undergraduate members have delved deeper,” according to the statement.

It sees like a general pattern that when you lawyer up and have a strong case, your lawyer advises reticence in public statements so that you can put together the whole story and drop it as a big bomb later.

Phi Kappa Psi said it did not host “a date function or social event” during the weekend of Sept. 28, 2012, the night that a university student named Jackie alleges she was invited to a date party, lured into an upstairs room and was then ambushed and gang-raped by seven men who were rushing the fraternity.

The fraternity also said that it has reviewed the roster of employees at the university’s Aquatic and Fitness Center for 2012 and found that it does not list a member of the fraternity — a detail Jackie provided in her account to Rolling Stone and in interviews with The Washington Post — and that no member of the house matches the description detailed in the Rolling Stone account. The statement also said that the house does not have pledges during the fall semester.

“Moreover, no ritualized sexual assault is part of our pledging or initiating process,” the fraternity said. “This notion is vile, and we vehemently refute this claim.”

An attorney for the fraternity, Ben Warthen, declined to comment further.

U-Va. had no immediate comment.

… Rolling Stone’s editors apologized to readers for discrepancies in the story, issuing a statement and posting it on their Web site. Will Dana, Rolling Stone’s managing editor, said there is fresh doubt about the account.

“In the face of new information, there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie’s account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced,” he said in the statement.

The Washington Post has interviewed Jackie several times during the past week and has worked to corroborate her version of events, contacting dozens of current and former members of the fraternity, the fraternity’s faculty adviser, Jackie’s friends and former roommates, and others on campus. Fraternity members said anonymously that the description of the assailant doesn’t match anyone they know and have been telling others on campus that they did not have a party the night of the alleged attack.

Speaking for the first time since the details of her alleged sexual assault were published in Rolling Stone, the 20 year-old U-Va. junior told the Post that she stands by her version of the events. In lengthy in-person interviews, Jackie recounted an attack very similar to the one she presented in the magazine: She had gone on a date with a member of the house, went to a party there and ended up in a room where she was brutally attacked – seven men raping her in succession with two others watching — leaving her bloody, permanently injured and emotionally devastated.

“I never asked for this” attention, she said in an interview. “What bothers me is that so many people act like it didn’t happen. It’s my life. I have had to live with the fact that it happened every day for the last two years.” …

Alex Pinkleton, a close friend of Jackie’s who survived a rape and an attempted rape during her first two years on campus, said in an interview that she has had numerous conversations with Jackie in recent days and now feels misled.

“One of my biggest fears with these inconsistencies emerging is that people will be unwilling to believe survivors in the future,” Pinkleton said. “However, we need to remember that the majority of survivors who come forward are telling the truth.”

Pinkleton said that she is concerned that sexual assault awareness advocacy groups will suffer as a result of the conflicting details of the Rolling Stone allegations.

“While the details of this one case may have been misreported, this does not erase the somber truth this article brought to light: Rape is far more prevalent than we realize and it is often misunderstood and mishandled by peers, institutions, and society at large,” Pinkleton said. “We in the advocacy community at U-Va. will continue the work of making this issue accessible to our peers, guiding the conversation and our community into a place where sexual assaults are rare, where reporting processes are clear and adjudication is fair and compassionate.”

The fraternity’s statement will come two weeks after Rolling Stone ran a lengthy article about what it characterized as a culture of sex assault at the flagship state university, using Jackie’s story to illustrate how brazen such attacks can be and how indifferent the university is to them. …

The article published in the December issue of the pop culture magazine drew headlines around the world and rekindled discussion on college campuses about sexual assault, putting U-Va. at the epicenter and sending its administration scrambling to respond. The article spawned protests and vandalism, and the university quickly suspended all Greek system activities until the beginning of next semester and put out a call for zero tolerance of sex assault.

The Rolling Stone allegations shook the campus at a tumultuous moment, as the university was still mourning the death of U-Va. sophomore Hannah Graham, whose body was found five weeks after she went missing in Charlottesville.

Here are photos of the dead coed and the accused.

Jackie’s story empowered many women to speak publicly about their own attacks, but it also immediately raised questions about the decisions Jackie made that evening – not going to a hospital or reporting the alleged crime to police or the school – while some expressed doubt about her story altogether.

Jackie told the Post that she had not intended to share her story widely until the Rolling Stone writer contacted her.

“If she had not come to me I probably would not have gone public about my rape,” said Jackie, who added that she had been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and that she is now on a regimen of anti-depressants.

Earlier this week, Jackie revealed to friends for the first time the full name of her alleged attacker, a name she had never disclosed to anyone. But after looking into that person’s background, the group that had been among her closest supporters quickly began to raise suspicions about her account. The friends determined that the student that Jackie had named was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi and that other details about his background did not match up with information Jackie had disclosed earlier about her perpetrator.
The Post determined that the student Jackie named is not a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

Emily Renda was a U-Va. senior when she first met Jackie in the fall of 2013. In an interview, Renda said that she immediately connected with Jackie as they discussed the bond they shared as rape survivors. Renda said that she was raped her freshman year after attending a fraternity party.

Jackie told the Post that she bawled as she spoke about her own sexual assault to Renda.

Renda said on Thursday that Jackie initially told her that she was attacked by five students at Phi Kappa Psi on Sept. 28, 2012. Renda said that she learned months later that Jackie had changed the number of attackers from five to seven.

“An advocate is not supposed to be an investigator, a judge or an adjudicator,” said Renda, a 2014 graduate who works for the university as a sexual violence awareness specialist. But as details emerge that cast doubt on Jackie’s account, Renda said, “I don’t even know what I believe at this point.”

“This feels like a betrayal of good advocacy if this is not true,” Renda said. “We teach people to believe the victims. We know there are false reports but those are extraordinarily low.”

Renda said that research shows between 2 to 8 percent of all rape allegations are fabricated or unfounded.

“The doubt cast on Jackie’s story has been feeding the myth that we have been combating for 40 years that women lie about rape and I feel that will put women at a disadvantage in coming forward,” Renda said. …

In July, Renda introduced Jackie to Sabrina Rubin Erdely, the Rolling Stone writer who was on assignment to write about sexual violence on college campuses. Overwhelmed from sitting through interviews with the writer, Jackie said she asked Erdely to be taken out of the article. She said Erdely refused and Jackie was told that the article would go forward regardless.

Nice. Like I said in my Taki’s Magazine article, “Morally, Sabrina Rubin Erdely and Rolling Stone should not have exploited an unsettled young woman.”

Jackie said she finally relented and agreed to participate on the condition that she be able to fact-check her parts in the story, which she said Erdely accepted. Erdely said in an e-mail message that she was not immediately available to comment Friday morning.

“I didn’t want the world to read about the worst three hours of my life, the thing I have nightmares about every night,” Jackie said.

Jackie told The Post that she felt validated that the article encouraged other female students to come forward saying that they, too, had been sexually assaulted in fraternity houses.

“Haven’t enough people come forward at this point?” she said. “How many people do you need to come forward saying they’ve been raped at a fraternity to make it real to you? They need to acknowledge it’s a problem they need to address instead of pointing fingers to take the blame off themselves.”

As classes resumed this week after Thanksgiving break, Jackie, whose family lives in northern Virginia, went back to the campus where her story is still a daily topic of conversation. Although anonymous for now, she said she remains afraid that fellow students and fraternity members will somehow recognize her as the victim from the Rolling Stone article.

Jackie said that she never wanted to go to U-Va. Graduating near the top of her high school senior class of 700, she had planned to attend Brown University. She dreamed of pursuing a career in medicine like her childhood hero, Patch Adams.

“I wanted to help people,” Jackie said.

She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.

She said that she performed well in course work that included rigorous pre-med classes in psychology, chemistry and religious anthropology. She said soon found a job as a lifeguard at a campus pool, where she said she met a charming junior who had dimples, blue eyes and dark curly hair.

Jackie told the Post that the same student later took her out for an extravagant dinner at the Boar’s Head Inn before they attended a date function on Sept. 28, 2012 at his fraternity, Phi Kappa Psi. Jackie said that her date appeared to have orchestrated the sexual assault by attempting to ply her with alcohol before escorting her into a darkened room on the second floor of the fraternity house. Jackie said she did not actually drink alcohol that night because she said she was on a migraine medication and said that she remembered the events that night clearly.

According to her account in Rolling Stone and in interviews, Jackie said she was thrown to a rug, breaking a low glass table in the process. She said that she did receive cuts to the back of her arm as a result but noted that her attack happened on a thick rug.
Jackie told the Post that the men pinned her down and then raped her, the trauma leaving her bleeding from between her legs.

“One of them said ‘Grab its [expletive] leg,’” she said, ler lip quivering and tears streaming down her face. “Its. I’ll never forget that. I felt like nothing, like I wasn’t even human.”

Jackie’s former roommate, Rachel Soltis, said that she noticed emotional and physical changes to her friend during the fall semester of 2012, when the two shared a suite on campus.

“She was withdrawn, depressed and couldn’t wake up in the mornings,” said Soltis, who told the Post that she was convinced that Jackie was sexually assaulted. Soltis said that Jackie did not tell her about the alleged sexual assault until January 2013. Soltis said that she did not notice any apparent wounds on Jackie’s body at the time that might have indicated a brutal attack.

The Post asked Jackie on multiple occasions for her to reveal the full name of the two attackers she said she recognized. She declined, saying that she didn’t want the perpetrator “to come back in my life.”

Jackie said numerous times that she didn’t expect that an investigation the Charlottesville Police department opened after the article’s publication to result in any charges. She said she knew there was little if any forensic evidence that could prove the allegations two years after they occurred.

“I didn’t want a trial,” Jackie said. “I can’t imagine getting up on a defense stand having them tear me apart.”

Jackie said early in the week that she felt manipulated by Erdely, the Rolling Stone reporter, saying that she “felt completely out of control over my own story.” In an in-person interview Thursday, Jackie said that Rolling Stone account of her attack was truthful but also acknowledged that some details in the article might not be accurate.

There’s accuracy and then there’s truth.

Jackie contradicted an earlier interview, saying on Thursday that she did not know if her main attacker actually was a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

“He never said he was in Phi Psi,” she said, while noting that she was positive that the date function and attack occurred at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house on Sept. 28, 2012. “I know it was Phi Psi because a year afterward my friend pointed out the building to me and said that’s where it happened.”

Huh? Wow …

One of my November 25th comments on Richard Bradley’s blog suggested that Jackie’s story would be more plausible if we assumed she was lying about being completely sober.

Tommy Reid, president of the Inter-Fraternity Council, said that all Greek organizations must register parties with the IFC. He said that the council’s records did not date back to the fall of 2012.

Jennifer Jenkins and Julie Tate contributed to this report.

Like the old saying says, a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on.

In a lot of these similar cases, like Trayvon and Ferguson, you’ll note that the victims don’t get their stories out until after the press has run wild with disinformation.

From CNN:

The University of Virginia’s Phi Kappa Psi chapter did not have a party the night of September 28, 2012, the date when the reported attack occurred, the fraternity chapter’s lawyer, Ben Warthen, told CNN. He said email records and Inter-fraternity Council records prove there was no party.

Warthen said there were other discrepancies in the account from the woman, whom Rolling Stone identified as Jackie, who then had just started her freshman year. For example, the orchestrator of the alleged rape did not belong to the fraternity, the fraternity house has no side staircase and there were no pledges at that time of year.

“It’s not part of our culture,” Warthen said. “It’s just not true.”

It’s time for the recriminations to begin!

 
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  1. I almost feel bad for the Megaphone Establishment. They’ve had a tough couple of weeks.

    #Schadenfreude

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  2. Luke Lea says:

    Where does it go from here? Anybody care to guess?

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    They'll go quiet until the next possible "Great White Defendant" candidate makes an appearance! All quietly forgotten...reputations intact!
    , @Muse
    Yes. They are going to continue to encourage Ferguson protests to distract the people from the fact that Obama is violating the Constitution by not enforcing immigration laws while he simutaneously tries to start a war in Ukraine with his warmongering GOP friends as we send more "advisors" to Iraq and Afganistan.
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  3. Ace says:

    This account at the Washington Post is pretty damning. First:

    Jackie said that she never wanted to go to U-Va. Graduating near the top of her high school senior class of 700, she had planned to attend Brown University. She dreamed of pursuing a career in medicine like her childhood hero, Patch Adams.

    “I wanted to help people,” Jackie said.

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.

    So, she didn’t want to go and got all depressed (not raped) in the 1st few months in Charlottesville.

    Next:

    Jackie said early in the week that she felt manipulated by Erdely, the Rolling Stone reporter, saying that she “felt completely out of control over my own story.” In an in-person interview Thursday, Jackie said that Rolling Stone account of her attack was truthful but also acknowledged that some details in the article might not be accurate.

    This girl is nuts.

    Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-fraternity-to-rebut-claims-of-gang-rape-in-rolling-stone/2014/12/05/5fa5f7d2-7c91-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html

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    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.
     
    I wonder if that's BS too. The Ivies are very generous with "need based aid".
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  4. fish says:
    @Luke Lea
    Where does it go from here? Anybody care to guess?

    They’ll go quiet until the next possible “Great White Defendant” candidate makes an appearance! All quietly forgotten…reputations intact!

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    They’ll go quiet until the next possible “Great White Defendant” candidate makes an appearance! All quietly forgotten…reputations intact!
     
    No. Let's be honest. The next Great White Gentile Defendant or Great White Gentile Southern Defendant. Preferably from Duke, UVA, VMI, or Ol' Miss.

    And it's never going to stop. Ever. They smell blood in the water.
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  5. Jon says:

    Favorite comment of the whole debacle (so far): “I liked this story better when it had lacrosse players and a stripper”

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    Much better, plus we had the mug shots of the Lacrosse players. I hope the DA in Charlottesville remembers the name Mike Nifong.
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  6. Jsceptic says:

    Better yet, there was no party at all that night.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/05/us/rolling-stone-uva-apology/

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  7. How does it feel to know you were responsible for taking down Rolling Stone, even though you will never get credit for it.

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    How does it feel to know you were responsible for taking down Rolling Stone, even though you will never get credit for it.

     

    I see what you did there.

    How does it feel? Like a complete unknown?
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  8. Someone should dwell on the federal statistic that the ratio of black on white rape to white on black rape is greater than 12,000/10; perhaps infinity. White female bodies matter!

    Would put a little context into the fact that almost all the outrageous rape cases that we actually read about in the papers are black on white.

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  9. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Didn´t think they would admit it. Ever. So a tiny bit of kudos for displaying some integrity.

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  10. The memory hole?

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  11. Luke Lea:

    Into the memory hole, duh!

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    Steve, we his commenters, and others worked way too hard. Don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

    The malice angle will hopefully come out more (misrepresenting lifted misogynistic lyrics as coming from UVa). Hopefully activists and/or lawsuits will bring this about.

    But look at what's been accomplished: A vicious woman has been taken way down and the magazine that employed her especially so.
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  13. Yes, this story was false. But let’s not forget that the issue it raises (mostly blond white cisgendered WASP males gang-raping women, especially women of color) is still with us. I think now that we managed to get the facts straight we should focus on this issue. Let’s not turn this into a triumph for rape apologists and other evil cisgendered white males! (Especially not if they are blond.)

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    (Especially not if they are blond.)
     
    I've just tried to get the hashtag #blondprivilege going on Twitter.
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  14. Vindication!

    The response of the Jezebel commentariat seems to be fury that the allegations are proven bogue. Which is kind of odd. Why would someone wish for a horrific event to have taken place?

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    No. For the greater good. It's all for the greater good for these a-holes.

    https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/540938944679256064
    , @Anonymous
    Because it's a blog of, by and for Jewish lesbians?
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  15. slumber_j says:

    Impressive.

    Sorry to spam a bit, but I left this comment on a previous thread, and I do think the parallels here are worth looking into:

    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Esteve_Head

    A very good documentary about her, The Woman Who Wasn’t There, is or at least was available on Netflix.

    Anyway, the putative victim’s vocal advocacy and failure to produce any evidence in this case are strongly reminiscent of Head’s behavior. In fact, the two women strike me as so very similar in what I know of their behavior that I now doubt Jackie’s story pretty much from start to finish.

    The film is indeed still streaming on Netflix, and I highly recommend it. Coincidentally the big honcho at One in Four, the male anti-rape group at UVa, is named Brian Head.

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    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was

    Munchausen's Syndrome. A real attention-getter. Women are particularly prone to it. Whether it is a book by a fake holocaust survivor, rape survivor, or child sex abuse survivor the pattern is the same: victimhood=attention from others.

    Guys are different. They pretend to be heroes, wear fake uniforms and medals, and talk about their fake experiences as a SEAL back in 'Nam. Same attention-getting pattern, with one big difference: woman-as-victim needs an Evil Oppressor (preferably male!).
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    Yes, this story was false. But let's not forget that the issue it raises (mostly blond white cisgendered WASP males gang-raping women, especially women of color) is still with us. I think now that we managed to get the facts straight we should focus on this issue. Let's not turn this into a triumph for rape apologists and other evil cisgendered white males! (Especially not if they are blond.)

    (Especially not if they are blond.)

    I’ve just tried to get the hashtag #blondprivilege going on Twitter.

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  17. HL says:

    I’ve noticed that comments are listed by time of posting, not time of approval. This makes catching up on an active comment thread particularly difficult as new entries are lost in between previously read comments. I have the same issues on Marginal Revolution, but their system seems ancient compared to this one. Just wanted to point this out, it would facilitate keeping up on a HOT and ACTIVE topic…

    Thanks Steve for all you do!

    Harold Lloyd – The Silent Shit Poster

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  18. Dahlia says:
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    Luke Lea:

    Into the memory hole, duh!

    Steve, we his commenters, and others worked way too hard. Don’t snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

    The malice angle will hopefully come out more (misrepresenting lifted misogynistic lyrics as coming from UVa). Hopefully activists and/or lawsuits will bring this about.

    But look at what’s been accomplished: A vicious woman has been taken way down and the magazine that employed her especially so.

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  19. I know Steve (among others) has been very cautious in suggesting that probably something happened to Jackie. I just reread today’s WaPo piece and my thought was: while maybe nothing external happened to her, she may simply have had a mental break. Schizophrenia is notorious for its unique onset in early adulthood. Just speculation–but it seems to fit the facts we know.

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  20. DCThrowback says: • Website
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    Vindication!

    The response of the Jezebel commentariat seems to be fury that the allegations are proven bogue. Which is kind of odd. Why would someone wish for a horrific event to have taken place?

    No. For the greater good. It’s all for the greater good for these a-holes.

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  21. Jefferson says:

    “Yes, this story was false. But let’s not forget that the issue it raises (mostly blond white cisgendered WASP males gang-raping women, especially women of color)”

    Do you think Jackie is a NAM woman ? I wonder what race she is, nobody knows what this big fat liar looks like.

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    The picture a reader sent me showed a young white woman with a pleasant face.

    I did not check into where in the social media world he found this, so I can't tell you if it is authentic.

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  22. What should happen is that people should be criminally prosecuted for false accusations of rape. unfortunately for men, making a false rape accusation carries no risk for the women making those charges.

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    I wondered about that too but does the fact that her accusations weren't against an identifiable individual spare her that fate? And kudos to Steve and his readers - this has become an absolute daily must-read for me, in no small part due to the quality of reader comments. And of course, Steve's work itself is top-notch!
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  23. Acilius says: • Website

    As I believe you have pointed out, Richard Bradley was not the first person to publicly challenge major elements of the Rolling Stone story- “Jackie” herself was. On 24 November, the same day Richard Bradley’s post would go online, a letter which “Jackie” and others signed appeared in the university’s campus paper, contesting the unflattering portrayal of Dean Nicole Eramo which runs throughout the article. And “Jackie” today, reached for comment, said that there were a number of elements in the article that were not accurate depictions of her experience. So it was pretty rich for Rolling Stone in its initial defense of the story to say repeatedly that they were telling “Jackie’s story,” when “Jackie” had already signed a public statement to the effect that they were doing no such thing, and for them now to make a remark like “our trust in her was misplaced” is simply disgusting. I realize Reiner Tor is being sarcastic, and I’m not in the habit of using phrases like “rape apologists,” but if Rolling Stone succeeds in its effort to pin all the blame for this fiasco onto “Jackie,” it will indeed represent a defeat for any conception of decency.

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    On 24 November, the same day Richard Bradley’s post would go online, a letter which “Jackie” and others signed appeared in the university’s campus paper, contesting the unflattering portrayal of Dean Nicole Eramo which runs throughout the article.

    Good point. Dean Nicole Eramo AFAIK hasn't done anything stupid or wrong throughout the whole affair. Has she made any wild accusations or demanded any totalitarian punishments? She should lawyer up and go after Wenner's $.
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  24. Kudos to the Blond Beasts of Phi Kappa Psi for suspending their on-campus marauding long enough to perform neglected basic fact-checking at Rolling Stone. …

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  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Another great victory for the Second Civil Rights Movement!

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  26. Travis says:

    the story was obviously false, I am surprised it took so long to debunk

    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?
    I was a member of a Fraternity in the 80s and lived in a frat house for 4 years on fraternity row, so I knew plenty of scandalous activity did occur ….group sex did occasionally occur, but was typically 2 to 3 guys max…sometimes the girls were drunk and regretted it the next day.

    but this story was beyond believable, no way would a fraternity have rape as part of their initiation rite. No way would her friends not insist she be taken to a hospital….

    I feel bad for “Jackie” , as she must have some mental health issues….to run a story based on her delusions was atrocious and the perpetrators should be held accountable. This “Jackie” character will continue to hide herself from the media, as any photograph of her would cause her story to become even less believable (she is most likely over 200 pounds and not attractive)

    She may have been the victim of “ugly” date night. One Frat house on our street would make all their pledges bring the ugliest girl to a date night event, some of these girls did weigh over 200 pounds. Maybe “jackie” was his date for an ugly date contest…

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    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?
     
    Yes. A law-school classmate of mine (a little sister of the fraternity in question) witnessed one. And it was the best house on campus in a very prominent university.
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  27. Jefferson says:

    If Jackie had described her fake made up rapists as being Black men instead of Blond men, I doubt very much Rolling Stones would have published her fake rape story.

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    If Jackie had described her fake made up rapists as being Black men instead of Blond men, I doubt very much Rolling Stones would have published
     
    No kidding. The New York Times promotes "rape culture" among Black males.

    Remember the 11-year-old Mexican girl who was raped by 20+ Blacks in Cleveland, Texas (50 miles northeast of Houston on US 59) on five occasions over 3 months? Remember how the Times reported the story?

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  28. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Congratulations, Steve; this episode confirms your hunch that you are much more widely read than acknowledged.

    Journalists would prefer being caught watching porn in the newsroom rather than peeping iSteve!

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    Journalists would prefer being caught watching porn in the newsroom rather than peeping iSteve!

    That should be part of an ongoing series. Entries could be along the lines of:

    They'd admit to smoking crack on skid row before they'd admit to reading Steve Sailer.

    They'd rather be caught using the glory hole at a gay bar than be caught reading Steve Sailer.

    They'd link to goats*x kiddy pr0n before they'd link to Steve Sailer.

    And so on.
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  29. Nice work Steve. Thanks for nudging things along.

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  30. Jefferson says:

    There is no epidemic in the U.S of gangs of blond haired men going around gang raping women.

    Even in Sweden the majority of male rapists do not have Blond hair, the majority of male rapists in Sweden are Muslim men.

    Even in a blond Nordic country like Sweden the majority of male rapists are not blond, let alone in the Multicultural United States which keeps getting darker and darker every year.

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  31. OsRazor says:

    The desperation and refusal to look at reality underlies all this, why liberals try so hard to find stories like this. It’s like that poor Alice Sebold whose book The Lovely Bones was turned into a movie. If you knew only that, as a freshman, Alice Sebold was raped at Syracuse and you’d seen the movie you’d assume of course that some gruesome white guy had destroyed her life, had raped her. Of course, it was a black guy who’d actually raped her and she even wrote a memoir about it called Lucky, but race place a minimal role in it. Instead, the memoir details how the rape pretty much destroyed her life–she has no children–she was robbed of her virginity, beaten, urinated upon, etc. and she was never the same. Luckily (unluckily) she survived. And what does she do with that tragedy? She dials up to eleven. She does I suppose what our society permits her to do, which is to transform it into a White Man Evil fantasy. Never mind Jennifer Moore or Hannah Graham (who in fact was a Virginia student) or hundreds of other dead and mutilated White girls like them. At this point, I imagine, Sebold probably has convinced herself that it wasn’t a black guy who raped her, fact and fiction have merged. And one wonders how stories like “Jackie”‘s find traction.

    Because at the end, what could be more depressing, more unsettling to a liberal than that everything–EVERYTHING–evil, white men in the Jim Crow South knew about blacks is true. Southern fear and revulsion at blacks was grounded in reality and is more true now than then because blacks are untethered at this point. To acknowledge that, to even hint at it, must be life destroying for a liberal. They would rather sacrifice everything than face the tawdry, ordinary, primal truths about race and America.

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  32. Another one bites the dust. Good job Steve. There must be quite a few people in significant places who read you. You’re making a difference.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ace
    This account at the Washington Post is pretty damning. First:

    Jackie said that she never wanted to go to U-Va. Graduating near the top of her high school senior class of 700, she had planned to attend Brown University. She dreamed of pursuing a career in medicine like her childhood hero, Patch Adams.

    “I wanted to help people,” Jackie said.

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.
     
    So, she didn't want to go and got all depressed (not raped) in the 1st few months in Charlottesville.

    Next:

    Jackie said early in the week that she felt manipulated by Erdely, the Rolling Stone reporter, saying that she “felt completely out of control over my own story.” In an in-person interview Thursday, Jackie said that Rolling Stone account of her attack was truthful but also acknowledged that some details in the article might not be accurate.
     
    This girl is nuts.

    Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-fraternity-to-rebut-claims-of-gang-rape-in-rolling-stone/2014/12/05/5fa5f7d2-7c91-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.

    I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with “need based aid”.

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    I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with “need based aid”.
     
    Not generous enough to make her claim in any way implausible.
    , @Anonymous
    Not in my experience. My son was admitted to Harvard Law and he didn't go because their aid offer was zero. And there is no way I could have coughed up $70 K plus per year.
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  34. iSteveFan says:

    Meanwhile, there are a plethora of campus rapes right beneath their collective noses that they could fixate on, but won’t.

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  35. Well done Mr Sailer. You were pretty much the first on the case. Your BS detector was already finely tuned. And you called it right, in a reasonably conservative way.

    The post-modern liberal Narrative – the New Right-liberal Washington Consensus and the New Left-liberal “equity & diversity” program – is now unravelling at a greater clip, going by the general crankiness in electorates in the EU, US and AUS. People are now more likely to believe the picture observed by their own ‘lyin eyes rather than the carefully doctored story presented by the MSM. Particularly when there are reliable guys like Quiggin, Sailer and Cochran on the case.

    More generally this is yet another nail in the colossal coffin of post-modern liberalism, a zeitgeist which depends on the assumption that our ancestors:

    – were wrong about our institutional rules (“the old school tie” in our memes) and
    – have no say in our instinctual feelings (“the Old Adam” in our genes).

    But it turns out that the WASPs actually knew what they were doing, when it came to regulating bankers, borders and broads.

    That is until the most gifted among them (the Germans) decided to launch a European civil war just to prove it. Damn their foolish pride!

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  36. Clyde says:

    Rack up another win! For the Steveosphere that got in on the ground floor on this most compelling issue of our politically correct era! Actually, no sarcasm on this. :)
    I say the recent Democrat shellacking helped break the spell a bit.
    Credit goes to our fearless leader who will soon dethrone Malcolm Gladwell as the premier innovative thinker in America.

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  37. iSteveFan says:

    Congratulations Steve. Now if you could only orchestrate the same thing on immigration. How about starting something to get the House GOP to elect a new Speaker? Boehner is apparently not going to defund this latest amnesty.

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  38. Boomstick says:

    Justice by it’s nature is a retail operation. Particular people do specific harms to identifiable people, and are held accountable for their acts. This requires things like, say, the acts alleged to have happened to have actually happened, by the people whom it is alleged to have committed the acts, against the people it is alleged to have been committed. All this is inherently fact-based.

    Modern progressives are swerving into revolutionary justice. This dispenses with all those pesky facts and replaces them with the bane of modern thinking, “narrative.” Rather than being a retail operation involving specific people, it’s a wholesale concept affecting groups. Who cares if “Jackie” wasn’t raped? Others were! The punishment is simpler, too. One can simply have a show trial, then follow up with a campaign of terror directed at the group.

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  39. Did anyone tell Sylvia’s mother? Dr Hook will never sound the same again.

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  40. OsRazor says:

    Off topic–Frankenstein coming after the Doctor. http://tabletmag.com/scroll/187440/frank-foer-leon-wieseltier-out-at-the-new-republic

    It looks like a big slaughter at The New Republic. Tons of Jews–presumably straight–are jumping Ship before Chris Hughes can get them. Truly a pleasure to witness. Because as we know there are the right people and THE RIGHT PEOPLE. Chris Hughes is of the right sort. The old Jews are not. As an aside, this sort of transformation will have a huge impact on US support for Israel down the road. The New Right People are just not that into Israel, it’s kind of icky.

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  41. CJ says:
    @Acilius
    As I believe you have pointed out, Richard Bradley was not the first person to publicly challenge major elements of the Rolling Stone story- "Jackie" herself was. On 24 November, the same day Richard Bradley's post would go online, a letter which "Jackie" and others signed appeared in the university's campus paper, contesting the unflattering portrayal of Dean Nicole Eramo which runs throughout the article. And "Jackie" today, reached for comment, said that there were a number of elements in the article that were not accurate depictions of her experience. So it was pretty rich for Rolling Stone in its initial defense of the story to say repeatedly that they were telling "Jackie's story," when "Jackie" had already signed a public statement to the effect that they were doing no such thing, and for them now to make a remark like "our trust in her was misplaced" is simply disgusting. I realize Reiner Tor is being sarcastic, and I'm not in the habit of using phrases like "rape apologists," but if Rolling Stone succeeds in its effort to pin all the blame for this fiasco onto "Jackie," it will indeed represent a defeat for any conception of decency.

    On 24 November, the same day Richard Bradley’s post would go online, a letter which “Jackie” and others signed appeared in the university’s campus paper, contesting the unflattering portrayal of Dean Nicole Eramo which runs throughout the article.

    Good point. Dean Nicole Eramo AFAIK hasn’t done anything stupid or wrong throughout the whole affair. Has she made any wild accusations or demanded any totalitarian punishments? She should lawyer up and go after Wenner’s $.

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    Excellent idea! If I were a betting man, I would wager any amount of money that Nicole Eramo is not an iSteve reader, but if she were, she would be well advised to follow your suggestion.
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  42. Should be just a matter of time now before UVA president Teresa Sullivan announces she’s suspending all campus events and activities related to searching one’s soul.

    Puts me in mind of the Woody Allen joke, how he was kicked out of N.Y.U. for cheating on his metaphysics final by looking into the soul of the student sitting next to him.

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  43. Esquire says:

    Steve, congratulations. I’m amazed that the attention you brought to this by popularizing Bradley’s piece actually produced results. I would have bet a lot of the money that the Narrative would never look back and never apologize. I still think Orwellian PC/Rape Culture/Gentle Giant folks will get to define reality in the end but… wow, a heartening victory.

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  44. CJ says:
    @anonymous
    Congratulations, Steve; this episode confirms your hunch that you are much more widely read than acknowledged.

    Journalists would prefer being caught watching porn in the newsroom rather than peeping iSteve!

    Journalists would prefer being caught watching porn in the newsroom rather than peeping iSteve!

    That should be part of an ongoing series. Entries could be along the lines of:

    They’d admit to smoking crack on skid row before they’d admit to reading Steve Sailer.

    They’d rather be caught using the glory hole at a gay bar than be caught reading Steve Sailer.

    They’d link to goats*x kiddy pr0n before they’d link to Steve Sailer.

    And so on.

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  45. iSteveFan says:

    Anna Merlan of Jezebel does the right thing and apologizes to Richard Bradley:

    This is really, really bad. It means, of course, that when I dismissed Richard Bradley and Robby Soave’s doubts about the story and called them “idiots” for picking apart Jackie’s account, I was dead fucking wrong, and for that I sincerely apologize.

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    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: "I was dead fucking wrong". Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?
    , @fish
    It's a start I suppose!
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  46. peterike says:

    This is all very nice, but my guess is that this will have zero effect on whether or not Rolling Stone goes with the next Great White Defendant story that rolls past its doors. Of course they will, because they will never recognize discrepancies on their own. They ought to contract out to a few iSteve commenters to preview their stories. It would do them a world of good.

    In addition, while this is a small victory in one battle, the war goes on, and the other side continues to win win win. A real sign of the anti-white Narrative breaking down will be when Rolling Stone and others give prominent play to blacks-rape-white-woman stories. Until THAT happens, nothing has really changed.

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  47. Why should anyone believe anything “Jackie” says at this point? Was she really accepted at Brown but because of economic reasons, attended UofV sight unseen?

    It’s also interesting that she mentions “migraine medication”. At this point I wonder if the whole thing was a hallucination, visions seen on the Road to Dementia.

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    A lot of people have various emotional and mental problems at some point in their lives. Personally, I've never suffered anything worse than a few mild depressions over girlfriend breakups, and a combination of depression and panic attacks when I was diagnosed with cancer in 1996. But I've known lots of people who have had worse problems.

    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

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  48. Lis says:

    She needs to be fired.

    Btw, Eric Cantor’s sons both belong to this specific fraternity at UVA. Odd isn’t it?

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    So not only are they not rapists, they aren't anti-Semites, either. Damn! They must be guilty of something, though. Journalists need to keep digging.
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  49. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Wow. Impressive work by Bradley and Sailer. If the prestige press cared about accuracy and avoiding embarrassment, they’d hire you two as public editors.

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  50. ic1000 says:

    Rolling Stone editor Will Dana as quoted in the original post:

    In the months Erdely spent reporting the story, Jackie neither said nor did anything that made Erdely, or Rolling Stone’s editors and fact-checkers, question Jackie’s credibility. Her friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported Jackie’s account.

    Editor Dana would benefit from having his words to be parsed very carefully.

    Jackie never said or did anything to cause Erdely, editors, or fact-checkers to raise any questions. Gee whiz, Mr. Dana — really?

    And throughout that time, (all of) Jackie’s friends strongly supported Jackie’s account. Gee whiz, Mr. Dana — really?

    This limited-hangout mea culpa doesn’t strike me as terribly apologetic, as far as the misdeeds committed on Dana’s watch.

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    "This limited-hangout mea culpa doesn’t strike me as terribly apologetic..."
     
    Yes, but it's all we're gonna get. It's as if the Earth budged a couple of miles out of its orbit. It's an indication that a significant force altered a massive status quo. It's actually a big deal.
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  51. I have to say I find the trajectory of this story very satisfying.

    From beginning to end it never left the headlines, and nobody forgot the details or their own reaction. People will remember how they were sucked in, how the media went crazy, how all the usual suspects assumed their positions on their soapboxes and denounced, and denounced again, how the doubts got introduced a short time later, how those doubters were shouted down, how investigations turned up the contradictory facts, and how the perpetrators of the lie — rather less noble than it might have seemed — were forced to retract.

    There’s a perfection to it.

    And now the recriminations! Oh, recriminations to die for!

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  52. Acilius says: • Website
    @CJ
    On 24 November, the same day Richard Bradley’s post would go online, a letter which “Jackie” and others signed appeared in the university’s campus paper, contesting the unflattering portrayal of Dean Nicole Eramo which runs throughout the article.

    Good point. Dean Nicole Eramo AFAIK hasn't done anything stupid or wrong throughout the whole affair. Has she made any wild accusations or demanded any totalitarian punishments? She should lawyer up and go after Wenner's $.

    Excellent idea! If I were a betting man, I would wager any amount of money that Nicole Eramo is not an iSteve reader, but if she were, she would be well advised to follow your suggestion.

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  53. Priss Factor [AKA "terrapin gape"] says:

    Myth grows on a rolling stone.

    This case aside, I think we should be mindful of the fact that some girls do remain mum, and in some cases, authorities aren’t helpful.

    And this is true of bullying as well. Most boy victims of bullying keep it to themselves because if they inform the school, they are seen as wimp-rats by others.
    Also, punishment for bullying is mild, so the bully often retaliates by tormenting the ‘wimp-rat’ even more.

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  54. @TurbineGuy
    How does it feel to know you were responsible for taking down Rolling Stone, even though you will never get credit for it.

    How does it feel to know you were responsible for taking down Rolling Stone, even though you will never get credit for it.

    I see what you did there.

    How does it feel? Like a complete unknown?

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  55. Ivy says:

    Shouldn’t someone at RS do the honorable thing and resign?
    Who, whom?

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    "Shouldn’t someone at RS do the honorable thing and resign?"

    Perhaps the editor of Rolling Stone and the "reporter" should both do the honorable thing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
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  57. @Travis
    the story was obviously false, I am surprised it took so long to debunk

    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?
    I was a member of a Fraternity in the 80s and lived in a frat house for 4 years on fraternity row, so I knew plenty of scandalous activity did occur ....group sex did occasionally occur, but was typically 2 to 3 guys max...sometimes the girls were drunk and regretted it the next day.

    but this story was beyond believable, no way would a fraternity have rape as part of their initiation rite. No way would her friends not insist she be taken to a hospital....

    I feel bad for "Jackie" , as she must have some mental health issues....to run a story based on her delusions was atrocious and the perpetrators should be held accountable. This "Jackie" character will continue to hide herself from the media, as any photograph of her would cause her story to become even less believable (she is most likely over 200 pounds and not attractive)

    She may have been the victim of "ugly" date night. One Frat house on our street would make all their pledges bring the ugliest girl to a date night event, some of these girls did weigh over 200 pounds. Maybe "jackie" was his date for an ugly date contest...

    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?

    Yes. A law-school classmate of mine (a little sister of the fraternity in question) witnessed one. And it was the best house on campus in a very prominent university.

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    Sure thing Ben. I will now take your story at face value. Was it the prestigious DuPont University in the South!!????
    , @James A. Donald
    Bullshit.

    Claiming to have seen such a thing makes you holy, as seeing angels used to make you holy.

    Back when seeing angels made you holy, lots of people saw angels.

    The overwhelming majority of rape convictions are based on false rape accusations.

    You can tell this from the fact that very few rapes are "Woman abducted while jogging", or "Burglar breaks in through bedroom window", while the vast majority of rapes are "Drunken lying thieving violent slut goes to private place with a man, and, surprise surprise, gets raped."

    Kind of like any black man killed by white racists for reasons of racism always turns out, by amazing coincidence, to be a criminal.

    If these rapists are really rapists, then somehow, strangely, the vast majority of rapists are picking on those women most likely to consent, which seems odd behavior for rapists. While in any one rape, a rapist might pick on a woman who is unusually likely to consent, kind of odd that nearly all of them do nearly all of the time.
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  58. Priss Factor [AKA "terrapin gape"] says:

    New Cold War on the white male turned into a cold shower for PC?

    White men on campus, now you know how Putin feels.

    “Putin is the new Hitler! Putin is the new Hitler!”

    Erderlys of the world have been giving Russia the Evil Frat treatment. (And Russians don’t even play golf.)

    PS. Next story: Black woman gang-raped at wasp golf club and molested with golf clubs and balls. Yup.

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  59. Alex Pinkleton, a close friend of Jackie’s who survived a rape and an attempted rape during her first two years on campus

    Someone likes to live on the dangerous side of life! Bet she’ll get four or five under her belt before her college years are over.

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  60. The media in Canada is currently suffering from some kind of rape hysteria or rape psychosis because of the Jian Ghomeshi case at the CBC and the rape accusations on Parliament Hill. The CBC especially has gone off the rails. Last night on one of their radio shows they had four different stories involving rape. I can only guess there were around four or five; I literally lost count. A reference was even made to the Roman rape of the Sabine women while they were discussing rape in areas controlled by the Islamic State.

    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites coming together to create a perfect storm of rape hysteria. The CBC will make no mention of this Rolling Stone story though, I’ll bet.

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    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites
     
    Nah. Women are wired this way. Their neurons make them WAY over-empathetic, which is a good thing when it comes to birthing and taking care of infants.

    But when they get collectively scared and uncertain about the future they feed on each other's emotions and conjure up all kinds of group craziness, whether it is the girls who ginned up the Salem Witch Trials, the Recovered Memory scam, the Satanism scam, the Pre-School Child Sex Abuse craze, or today's sex panic over Campus Rape.

    They are just weird that way. Ask Linda Fairstein of the Manhattan DA's office.
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  61. @ic1000
    Rolling Stone editor Will Dana as quoted in the original post:

    In the months Erdely spent reporting the story, Jackie neither said nor did anything that made Erdely, or Rolling Stone’s editors and fact-checkers, question Jackie’s credibility. Her friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported Jackie’s account.
     
    Editor Dana would benefit from having his words to be parsed very carefully.

    Jackie never said or did anything to cause Erdely, editors, or fact-checkers to raise any questions. Gee whiz, Mr. Dana -- really?

    And throughout that time, (all of) Jackie's friends strongly supported Jackie's account. Gee whiz, Mr. Dana -- really?

    This limited-hangout mea culpa doesn't strike me as terribly apologetic, as far as the misdeeds committed on Dana's watch.

    “This limited-hangout mea culpa doesn’t strike me as terribly apologetic…”

    Yes, but it’s all we’re gonna get. It’s as if the Earth budged a couple of miles out of its orbit. It’s an indication that a significant force altered a massive status quo. It’s actually a big deal.

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  62. @Jefferson
    If Jackie had described her fake made up rapists as being Black men instead of Blond men, I doubt very much Rolling Stones would have published her fake rape story.

    If Jackie had described her fake made up rapists as being Black men instead of Blond men, I doubt very much Rolling Stones would have published

    No kidding. The New York Times promotes “rape culture” among Black males.

    Remember the 11-year-old Mexican girl who was raped by 20+ Blacks in Cleveland, Texas (50 miles northeast of Houston on US 59) on five occasions over 3 months? Remember how the Times reported the story?

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  63. Jeff says:

    In the spirit of Anna Merlan, someone should come up with a word to describe calling as “liar” those people “who can see.” No way should any jizzbomb writer get away with their nonsense.

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  64. Wilkey says:

    The response of Jezebel’s Anna Merlan to the revelation that a young 18-year-old woman WAS NOT brutally gang raped by seven U-Va students: “This a bad and shitty day, and it’ll remain bad and shitty for a long time.”

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  65. One of my biggest fears with these inconsistencies emerging is that people will be unwilling to believe survivors in the future,” Pinkleton said. “However, we need to remember that the majority of survivors who come forward are telling the truth.”

    Those “survivors” of rape on campus who make charges that are truthful will be more likely to be believed if those who make charges that are false are expelled from school and turned over to the authorities for prosecution to the full extent of the law, which ought to include a good long stretch in the slammer.

    Women who make false charges of rape are a menace to society.

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  66. Bravissimo!

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  67. @Anonymous

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.
     
    I wonder if that's BS too. The Ivies are very generous with "need based aid".

    I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with “need based aid”.

    Not generous enough to make her claim in any way implausible.

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    Brown's endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.
    , @reiner Tor
    Also she is white, so I guess of little diversity value even if she's a female.
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  68. @Walter McGrain
    Why should anyone believe anything "Jackie" says at this point? Was she really accepted at Brown but because of economic reasons, attended UofV sight unseen?

    It's also interesting that she mentions "migraine medication". At this point I wonder if the whole thing was a hallucination, visions seen on the Road to Dementia.

    A lot of people have various emotional and mental problems at some point in their lives. Personally, I’ve never suffered anything worse than a few mild depressions over girlfriend breakups, and a combination of depression and panic attacks when I was diagnosed with cancer in 1996. But I’ve known lots of people who have had worse problems.

    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

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    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

    People should remind each other of cases like that more often. Thanks.

    On the topic of rape hysteria: I wonder if the 50 Shades of Grey film coming out next Valentine's Day will be about as welcome as a pair of shoes that arrives in the mail for a guy who just lost his legs? I mean the Toronto media and public relations world is in a state of deep crisis over all things rapey right now. That film may be the ultimate lead balloon with them.

    , @reiner Tor
    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends. Jackie is not even the worst example of this, I personally find it even more disturbing when they encourage some individuals to mutilate themselves because they believe themselves to be women in male bodies.
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  69. Wilkey says:

    You do have to give credit where credit is due. I guessed that there would be a retraction before the year was up, and I was right. I all but assumed, though, that the leftwing media would bury it. Washington Post, Slate, Salon, Huffington Post, and USA Today, among many others, have big stories on the retraction.

    The current lead article on Salon.com (as of 4:15 EST), however, has to be seen to be believed. Click on it. I dare ya.

    The article’s subheading: “White anger’s latest murderous turn, fueled by right-wing media, must be addressed head-on, and not by moralizing.”

    Salon seems to exist mostly as a way to burn up lots of John Warnock’s money.

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  70. @ben tillman

    I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with “need based aid”.
     
    Not generous enough to make her claim in any way implausible.

    Brown’s endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

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    Brown’s endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.
     
    Yes. I know that all too well.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Brown’s endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.
     
    So the slave trade wasn't as remunerative as we've been told? Another iSteve scoop!
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  71. @ben tillman

    I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with “need based aid”.
     
    Not generous enough to make her claim in any way implausible.

    Also she is white, so I guess of little diversity value even if she’s a female.

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  72. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of people have various emotional and mental problems at some point in their lives. Personally, I've never suffered anything worse than a few mild depressions over girlfriend breakups, and a combination of depression and panic attacks when I was diagnosed with cancer in 1996. But I've known lots of people who have had worse problems.

    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

    People should remind each other of cases like that more often. Thanks.

    On the topic of rape hysteria: I wonder if the 50 Shades of Grey film coming out next Valentine’s Day will be about as welcome as a pair of shoes that arrives in the mail for a guy who just lost his legs? I mean the Toronto media and public relations world is in a state of deep crisis over all things rapey right now. That film may be the ultimate lead balloon with them.

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  73. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of people have various emotional and mental problems at some point in their lives. Personally, I've never suffered anything worse than a few mild depressions over girlfriend breakups, and a combination of depression and panic attacks when I was diagnosed with cancer in 1996. But I've known lots of people who have had worse problems.

    And, keep in mind, a lot of them get better. Heck, I knew an old person with troubles who improved significantly upon turning 90 years old.

    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends. Jackie is not even the worst example of this, I personally find it even more disturbing when they encourage some individuals to mutilate themselves because they believe themselves to be women in male bodies.

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    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends.

    It reminds me of the practice of Muslim terrorists of strapping the vest of explosives on retarded youth and sending them off to their reward.
    , @IBC

    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends.
     
    Yes, Jackie may not have been raped, but Sabrina Rubin Erdely certainly had her way with her.

    Overwhelmed from sitting through interviews with the writer, Jackie said she asked Erdely to be taken out of the article. She said Erdely refused and Jackie was told that the article would go forward regardless.
     
    (Washington Post)
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  74. If “Jackie” isn’t careful, she could end up the Gentle Giant of faux rape charges.

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  75. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @fish
    They'll go quiet until the next possible "Great White Defendant" candidate makes an appearance! All quietly forgotten...reputations intact!

    They’ll go quiet until the next possible “Great White Defendant” candidate makes an appearance! All quietly forgotten…reputations intact!

    No. Let’s be honest. The next Great White Gentile Defendant or Great White Gentile Southern Defendant. Preferably from Duke, UVA, VMI, or Ol’ Miss.

    And it’s never going to stop. Ever. They smell blood in the water.

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  76. Congrats to Bradley for raising the issue, and to Steve for spreading the word.

    Truth is good.

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  77. dearieme says:

    “Renda, a 2014 graduate who works for the university as a sexual violence awareness specialist …”

    She has an incentive to beat up the whole rape culture, wouldn’t you think?

    Renda said “[w]e teach people to believe the victims.”

    Put otherwise, we indoctrinate people to believe the complainant, quite uncritically.

    “We know there are false reports but those are extraordinarily low.”

    It may be that false reports are rare. But how, madam, could either you or I know that? Of course, a bit of critical thinking about each allegation might contribute something to making false allegations rarer. And if that were achieved, it might embolden a few fearful, raped girls to make their true allegations. Just think, Renda, a bit of intelligent action from people like you might reduce the rate both of false allegations and of unmade true allegations. I can see, however, that such a policy might not advance the career opportunities of sexual violence awareness specialists.

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  78. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Cagey Beast
    The media in Canada is currently suffering from some kind of rape hysteria or rape psychosis because of the Jian Ghomeshi case at the CBC and the rape accusations on Parliament Hill. The CBC especially has gone off the rails. Last night on one of their radio shows they had four different stories involving rape. I can only guess there were around four or five; I literally lost count. A reference was even made to the Roman rape of the Sabine women while they were discussing rape in areas controlled by the Islamic State.

    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites coming together to create a perfect storm of rape hysteria. The CBC will make no mention of this Rolling Stone story though, I'll bet.

    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites

    Nah. Women are wired this way. Their neurons make them WAY over-empathetic, which is a good thing when it comes to birthing and taking care of infants.

    But when they get collectively scared and uncertain about the future they feed on each other’s emotions and conjure up all kinds of group craziness, whether it is the girls who ginned up the Salem Witch Trials, the Recovered Memory scam, the Satanism scam, the Pre-School Child Sex Abuse craze, or today’s sex panic over Campus Rape.

    They are just weird that way. Ask Linda Fairstein of the Manhattan DA’s office.

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    Yes there's no question this current wave of rape hysteria is driven by the hard-wiring of the female mind but that's been amplified by the brand new social media technology I mentioned. It was bad enough before the mass media, bad enough when both men and women fell into sync with the TV and magazines and has now gone critical with tweeting and all of that.
    , @Uptown Resident
    I agree that women are more empathetic than men, and that there's doubtless an evolutionary explanation for this.

    I think the more interesting issue is the changing target of female empathy. It makes sense to feel empathy toward your children, but does it make sense to feel empathy for total strangers? What are the conditions of female empathy? My sense is that empathy varies from woman to woman, and is probably culturally conditioned to some extent.

    For instance, I have the most empathy for women who are victimized in home invasions. It's clearly not the woman's fault for being in her own home, and I could be in the same situation. I also have deep, sometimes debilitating, empathy for animals. I think it has something to do with their obvious innocence, and how mind-bogglingly awful animals have it these days. Thus I have zero empathy for fat people (like Eric Garner) whose gluttony, which is made possible by doing horrible things to animals on industrial farms, contributes to their untimely deaths. I would shove the glutton in front of a train to save a pig if I could get away with it. And I resent the humanity mongering that tells me I should feel empathy for every member of my species before, say, my dog, or the animals we rely on.

    But even when I initially believed the Rolling Stone gang rape piece, I didn't feel empathy for Jackie. I thought, "I need to make sure my unborn child understands the risks of attending frat parties." Deep down, I think Jackie's an idiot for falling for a frat guy, and not at all a sympathetic character. I'm totally mystified by Jezebel readers' reaction to Merlan's piece and to her shitty apology.

    Interestingly, there's a SNP (rs53576) that is correlated with empathy. People with the G allele are reportedly more empathetic, less lonely, better at socializing, etc. People with GG are the most empathetic, while AG people and especially AA people are less. http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs53576. My 23andme raw data says I'm AG, which sounds about right.

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  79. The Post asked Jackie on multiple occasions for her to reveal the full name of the two attackers she said she recognized. She declined, saying that she didn’t want the perpetrator “to come back in my life.”

    If the story were true, wouldn’t she want to make sure that the group of men who carried out a brutal, premeditated gang rape weren’t out there victimizing others?

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  80. Foseti says: • Website

    Our favorite blogger has done a great job in helping to debunk this story (perhaps a better job than anyone save one editor).

    Nevertheless, it’s worth considering whether or not it matters.

    I think we’ve entered full blown communism here. Everyone knows the show trials are fake . . . and that’s what makes them so scary. The press’s power is completely unchecked at this point. They don’t even real stories to further their agenda anymore (how long has it been since they did?). Those of us on the dissident fringes know that the stories are bogus, but there’s still die-ins blocking the streets of DC today for the fake Ferguson story. Will frats on UVA’s campus ever be the same? I doubt it.

    The truth is what the official press say it is, no matter how thoroughly debunked their stories are.

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  81. Some of them won’t want to do this again, but they might not be able to stop. Say you’re the WWII Japanese naval staff officer who thinks its not a good idea to bet the navy at Coral Sea. How do you tell the other guys that? What do you say when they say it shows lack of faith in the Emperor and the Japanese system? Maybe the liberals will find a way to fix this, maybe they won’t. Erdely didn’t get this into a respected organ of the MSM, just Rolling Stone. Maybe Rolling Stone will be more careful next time, but there’s a lot of Rolling Stones. You don’t want to be the first MSM person to express skepticism about a story like this. It’s like being the first person to stop clapping for Stalin.

    This would have flown for weeks longer if she picked the University of Alabama rather than the University of Virginia. Washington Post professionals want their kids to go to Virginia, and money is a big reason. The Ivies are generous with need based aid, but not want based aid. Washington Post people move to Va for in-state tuition. They want their kids to go there to save money, and destroying the school is not good for their personal, selfish interests

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    "Washington Post professionals want their kids to go to Virginia, and money is a big reason."

    Yup

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  82. @Rrrrrroger
    Some of them won't want to do this again, but they might not be able to stop. Say you're the WWII Japanese naval staff officer who thinks its not a good idea to bet the navy at Coral Sea. How do you tell the other guys that? What do you say when they say it shows lack of faith in the Emperor and the Japanese system? Maybe the liberals will find a way to fix this, maybe they won't. Erdely didn't get this into a respected organ of the MSM, just Rolling Stone. Maybe Rolling Stone will be more careful next time, but there's a lot of Rolling Stones. You don't want to be the first MSM person to express skepticism about a story like this. It's like being the first person to stop clapping for Stalin.

    This would have flown for weeks longer if she picked the University of Alabama rather than the University of Virginia. Washington Post professionals want their kids to go to Virginia, and money is a big reason. The Ivies are generous with need based aid, but not want based aid. Washington Post people move to Va for in-state tuition. They want their kids to go there to save money, and destroying the school is not good for their personal, selfish interests

    “Washington Post professionals want their kids to go to Virginia, and money is a big reason.”

    Yup

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  83. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    Impressive.

    Sorry to spam a bit, but I left this comment on a previous thread, and I do think the parallels here are worth looking into:


    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Esteve_Head

    A very good documentary about her, The Woman Who Wasn’t There, is or at least was available on Netflix.

    Anyway, the putative victim’s vocal advocacy and failure to produce any evidence in this case are strongly reminiscent of Head’s behavior. In fact, the two women strike me as so very similar in what I know of their behavior that I now doubt Jackie’s story pretty much from start to finish.
     

    The film is indeed still streaming on Netflix, and I highly recommend it. Coincidentally the big honcho at One in Four, the male anti-rape group at UVa, is named Brian Head.

    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was

    Munchausen’s Syndrome. A real attention-getter. Women are particularly prone to it. Whether it is a book by a fake holocaust survivor, rape survivor, or child sex abuse survivor the pattern is the same: victimhood=attention from others.

    Guys are different. They pretend to be heroes, wear fake uniforms and medals, and talk about their fake experiences as a SEAL back in ‘Nam. Same attention-getting pattern, with one big difference: woman-as-victim needs an Evil Oppressor (preferably male!).

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    Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me.
    , @Forbes
    Compare and contrast: Women playing victims, men pretending to be heroes.
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  84. @Anonymous

    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites
     
    Nah. Women are wired this way. Their neurons make them WAY over-empathetic, which is a good thing when it comes to birthing and taking care of infants.

    But when they get collectively scared and uncertain about the future they feed on each other's emotions and conjure up all kinds of group craziness, whether it is the girls who ginned up the Salem Witch Trials, the Recovered Memory scam, the Satanism scam, the Pre-School Child Sex Abuse craze, or today's sex panic over Campus Rape.

    They are just weird that way. Ask Linda Fairstein of the Manhattan DA's office.

    Yes there’s no question this current wave of rape hysteria is driven by the hard-wiring of the female mind but that’s been amplified by the brand new social media technology I mentioned. It was bad enough before the mass media, bad enough when both men and women fell into sync with the TV and magazines and has now gone critical with tweeting and all of that.

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  85. @Anonymous
    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was

    Munchausen's Syndrome. A real attention-getter. Women are particularly prone to it. Whether it is a book by a fake holocaust survivor, rape survivor, or child sex abuse survivor the pattern is the same: victimhood=attention from others.

    Guys are different. They pretend to be heroes, wear fake uniforms and medals, and talk about their fake experiences as a SEAL back in 'Nam. Same attention-getting pattern, with one big difference: woman-as-victim needs an Evil Oppressor (preferably male!).

    Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me.

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    There's M. Larry Lawrence and Joseph Ellis (who claimed to have seen combat; do not know if they claimed to be heroes).

    There was a mess of fake confederate veterans during the period running from 1930 to 1960. These were not 'successful' men; they were applying for pensions faux de mieux.

    Who else do you have in mind?
    , @David In TN
    "Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me."

    There's a near-700 page book on the subject, "Stolen Valor," by B.G. Burkett. Many were mediocrities trying to make themselves important, but there were some fairly prominent men doing it.

    The most egregious phonies would claim to be the sole survivor of a massacre, escaped from a POW camp, etc. They would appear at ceremonies in uniform with a chest full of phony medals. Others would dress up in camo outfits and cry for the cameras.

    Some would claim to have committed atrocities and on investigation would be found never to have been in Vietnam. Still others would go to to the Vet Centers and complain how Vietnam messed them up, even though they had not been there.
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  86. Rapparee says:

    Jackie’s story… raised questions about the decisions Jackie made that evening – not going to a hospital or reporting the alleged crime to police or the school… She said she knew there was little if any forensic evidence that could prove the allegations two years after they occurred. “I didn’t want a trial,” Jackie said. “I can’t imagine getting up on a defense stand having them tear me apart.”

    As awful and gut-wrenching as it surely is to publicly admit being victimized, this is one area where more female solidarity and social pressure would help, rather than hurt. Women need to have it pounded into their heads in advance, before they’ve suffered a rape, that not coming forward immediately (and telling the unexpurgated truth, even the embarrassing parts) means that other women will suffer the same fate. A rapist doesn’t stop raping just because his last victim’s feelings were hurt, and sharing your emotions with other victims doesn’t help the police build the case to have him put in a cage where he belongs.

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    Women need to have it pounded into their heads in advance, before they’ve suffered a rape, that not coming forward immediately (and telling the unexpurgated truth, even the embarrassing parts) means that other women will suffer the same fate.
     
    Women don't care much about that kind of thing. For them, morality tends to be personal and immediate, not something to benefit unknown others in the abstract.
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  87. @Jefferson
    "Yes, this story was false. But let’s not forget that the issue it raises (mostly blond white cisgendered WASP males gang-raping women, especially women of color)"

    Do you think Jackie is a NAM woman ? I wonder what race she is, nobody knows what this big fat liar looks like.

    The picture a reader sent me showed a young white woman with a pleasant face.

    I did not check into where in the social media world he found this, so I can’t tell you if it is authentic.

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  88. GW says:

    Great job by all, I was with you Steve since you first posted Bradley’s initial thoughts, but this story isn’t close to being over. Names and identities, Jackie and her friends to begin with, will eventually be leaked, and as the narrative continues to collapse Jackie will get angrier at Rolling Stone and Erdely will look to throw Jackie under the bus.

    Rolling Stone and Erdely deserve the lion’s share of the blame, but Jackie is person from whom the accusations ultimately arise. Despite claiming to be the victim of both a rape and cover-up, and not wanting to go to the school to begin with, she is still at UVa. Why? Well, we know she has managed to win quite a bit of influence and sympathy in the “rape-victim” community.

    From what has been revealed, all we can safely conclude is that she is mentally, emotionally, and spiritually unhinged; this doesn’t eliminate the possibility that she was raped at some point; but there is no need to grant her any sympathy at this stage. When little to none of her story checks out, there probably isn’t any wolf despite her crying.

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    there is no need to grant her any sympathy at this stage
     
    I think there is. She's obviously emotionally and mentally disturbed. I do feel sympathy to people who are emotionally and mentally disturbed. It's just that we shouldn't be feeding their fantasies by pretending that those fantasies are real: to the contrary, we should strongly encourage them to recognize that their fantasies are just fantasies. We happen to live in an age when the official religion (or cult) happens to encourage these people to concoct fantasies and to be crazy. This official religion then punishes (or tries to punish) normal people based on these fantasies. I can feel way more hatred towards the high priests (and their altar-boys and -girls) of the Liberal Cult than towards the mentally disturbed people used by them to further the liberal agenda, because I recognize that there will always be mentally disturbed people, but there need not always be a liberal cult ruling our lives, and that the more or less normal high priests and altar-boys and -girls bear much more responsibility than people like this Jackie.
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  89. Mr. Blank says:

    “One of my biggest fears with these inconsistencies emerging is that people will be unwilling to believe survivors in the future,” Pinkleton said. “However, we need to remember that the majority of survivors who come forward are telling the truth.”

    Why, it’s like that whole fable about “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” might have been on to something.

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  90. AnonAnon says:

    Isn’t Brown the bottom of the Ivy League? Brown and UVA aren’t too far apart in the rankings. US News has Brown at 16 and UVA at 23, a negligible difference.

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    Isn’t Brown the bottom of the Ivy League? Brown and UVA aren’t too far apart in the rankings. US News has Brown at 16 and UVA at 23, a negligible difference.
     
    Surely Cornell is at the bottom of the Ivy League. The difference between Brown and UVA is actually quite large -- an average of 70 points on the verbal plus math components of the SAT. UVA gets credit for being bigger and having a highly selective law school.
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  91. Hersh says:

    The girl who said that people will be skeptical of other women claiming to be rape victims has it right. I am very skeptical. I’m particularly skeptical of women who claim to be raped or attempted raped several times. If there are no injuries and its in the context of a date, I’m skeptical that there was a “rape.”

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  92. Ed says:

    Great job Steve.

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  93. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I hear Sabrina is writing a book-length treatment: “UVA’s Willing Executioners”.

    They are ALL complicit!

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  94. OsRazor writes:

    Because at the end, what could be more depressing, more unsettling to a liberal than that everything–EVERYTHING–evil, white men in the Jim Crow South knew about blacks is true. Southern fear and revulsion at blacks was grounded in reality and is more true now than then because blacks are untethered at this point. To acknowledge that, to even hint at it, must be life destroying for a liberal. They would rather sacrifice everything than face the tawdry, ordinary, primal truths about race and America.

    –Commendations to Steve, Bradley, and the manosphere at large on popping this hoax; but OsRazor eloquently serves up above the “Dark Enlightenment”‘s bitterest draught.

    Damnit, I really enjoyed “The Cosby Show” growing up. I intend to revisit it soon to see if it holds up at all (“The Simpsons” really has never been my thing, some belly laughs notwithstanding).

    But Glenn Loury (bless his heart), The Supremes, and Camille Paglia’s “multiracial Brazilian” crushes notwithstanding, the above is the truth, and it (or the denial of it) continues to get people killed. Whether an honest black bourgeoisie can ever fill up a county, a campus, or somebody’s curbside couch, equity for the Huxtables is of tertiary concern compared with the horror of liberal colorblind anarchy. It kills the purse, it kills peace, and it killed the very real Hannah Graham.**

    ** Yes, she did have the eyebrows of a crazy chick. But her brand of crazy brought her to a wretched death, whereas “Jackie”‘s has brought her only an oblique and shameful notoriety. Jackie’s tale illuminates nothing but liberal hypocrisy and hysteria; Hannah’s, if we only taught the moral, would save many lives.

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  95. Seamus says:

    Do you think Jackie is a NAM woman ?

    Of course she isn’t. If she were, we’d have heard about it by now (at least, we’d have heard about it before she was exposed as a fraud), since it would further the goal of indicting the white patriarchy.

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  96. Seamus says:

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.

    “I wonder if that’s BS too. The Ivies are very generous with ‘need based aid’.”

    Actually, that’s one thing I’m willing to believe. I too was told by my parents that they couldn’t afford to send me to the Ivy League school that I’d been admitted to and that was my first choice. We were just rich enough not to qualify for that need-based aid, but not rich enough actually to swing the tuition and other costs.

    Like Jackie, I didn’t visit UVa before deciding to go there. (That’s not quite true. In 10th grade, I went to a high school forensics competition held in Wilson Hall. And I caught a glimpse of the Rotunda. But I never went on a tour of the Grounds before my first year there.) Unlike Jackie, I never regretted attending.

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  97. Seamus says:
    @Lis
    She needs to be fired.

    Btw, Eric Cantor's sons both belong to this specific fraternity at UVA. Odd isn't it?

    So not only are they not rapists, they aren’t anti-Semites, either. Damn! They must be guilty of something, though. Journalists need to keep digging.

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  98. Borachio says:
    @Ivy
    Shouldn't someone at RS do the honorable thing and resign?
    Who, whom?

    “Shouldn’t someone at RS do the honorable thing and resign?”

    Perhaps the editor of Rolling Stone and the “reporter” should both do the honorable thing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

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  99. Veracitor says:

    “Truthful but inaccurate” is much like “fake but accurate,” isn’t it? Maybe Rather and Erdely should get together for cocktails.

    But Rolling Stone’s retraction seems pretty honest. It includes this fine sentence: “Her friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported Jackie’s account.” That’s right; UVA doesn’t have anti-rape activists, it has “rape activists.” They supported Jackie’s account because they live for rape stories and would be disappointed, indeed shamed in their own eyes, if they doubted one.

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  100. Danindc says:
    @ben tillman

    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?
     
    Yes. A law-school classmate of mine (a little sister of the fraternity in question) witnessed one. And it was the best house on campus in a very prominent university.

    Sure thing Ben. I will now take your story at face value. Was it the prestigious DuPont University in the South!!????

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  101. @GW
    Great job by all, I was with you Steve since you first posted Bradley's initial thoughts, but this story isn't close to being over. Names and identities, Jackie and her friends to begin with, will eventually be leaked, and as the narrative continues to collapse Jackie will get angrier at Rolling Stone and Erdely will look to throw Jackie under the bus.

    Rolling Stone and Erdely deserve the lion's share of the blame, but Jackie is person from whom the accusations ultimately arise. Despite claiming to be the victim of both a rape and cover-up, and not wanting to go to the school to begin with, she is still at UVa. Why? Well, we know she has managed to win quite a bit of influence and sympathy in the "rape-victim" community.

    From what has been revealed, all we can safely conclude is that she is mentally, emotionally, and spiritually unhinged; this doesn't eliminate the possibility that she was raped at some point; but there is no need to grant her any sympathy at this stage. When little to none of her story checks out, there probably isn't any wolf despite her crying.

    there is no need to grant her any sympathy at this stage

    I think there is. She’s obviously emotionally and mentally disturbed. I do feel sympathy to people who are emotionally and mentally disturbed. It’s just that we shouldn’t be feeding their fantasies by pretending that those fantasies are real: to the contrary, we should strongly encourage them to recognize that their fantasies are just fantasies. We happen to live in an age when the official religion (or cult) happens to encourage these people to concoct fantasies and to be crazy. This official religion then punishes (or tries to punish) normal people based on these fantasies. I can feel way more hatred towards the high priests (and their altar-boys and -girls) of the Liberal Cult than towards the mentally disturbed people used by them to further the liberal agenda, because I recognize that there will always be mentally disturbed people, but there need not always be a liberal cult ruling our lives, and that the more or less normal high priests and altar-boys and -girls bear much more responsibility than people like this Jackie.

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  102. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    What should happen is that people should be criminally prosecuted for false accusations of rape. unfortunately for men, making a false rape accusation carries no risk for the women making those charges.

    I wondered about that too but does the fact that her accusations weren’t against an identifiable individual spare her that fate? And kudos to Steve and his readers – this has become an absolute daily must-read for me, in no small part due to the quality of reader comments. And of course, Steve’s work itself is top-notch!

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  103. Re: “It’s time for the recriminations to begin!”

    Thanks for that Steve, I’m ending my week with a big laugh.

    Recriminations? The Cathedral doesn’t need no stinkin’ recriminations!

    This time next week it’ll be forgotten about.

    Besides, with all these protests about police brutality/homicide going on….

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  104. She dreamed of pursuing a career in medicine like her childhood hero, Patch Adams.

    Who, it should be noted, suffered from mental illness as well.

    I and others in my family have encountered the real Patch Adams in the northern Virginia town he lives in. He may be ‘cured’, but he is absolutely nothing like the Robin Williams portrayal in the film, either in appearance or in humor or in demeanor. He’s not funny at all, and in fact is a completely insufferable asshole.

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  105. I’d like to add my congratulations to Steve. This is a good day for the truth.

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  106. Trumpenprole [AKA "Blanco"] says:

    “If she had not come to me I probably would not have gone public about my rape,” said Jackie, who added that she had been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and that she is now on a regimen of anti-depressants.

    I have no doubt that Jackie truly believes the story she has told exactly as she told it. In virtually every mass homicide it turns out the perpetrator was on a cocktail of antidepressants. However, there aren’t many females on the list of mass murderers. Perhaps this is because thoughts of homicide, one of the side effects of antidepressants, might for females turn out to be thoughts of rape.

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    Isn't the real 1 in 4 figure that 25% of US women are on anti-depressants?
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  107. Mike says:

    When you go to the original story URL the ‘A Note to Our Readers‘ admission by Will Dana that they maybe probably shouldn’t have published the story doesn’t appear anywhere:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119

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  108. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Will Jakie be shunned by the rape survivors group at UVA? You would think so, but I’m not sure.

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    "Rolling Stone is a joke."

    They have to tread a fine line between abandoning their SJW girl readership (which they are desperate to grow) and correcting errors in the story. This episode will strengthen the hand of the more responsible editors at the RS.

    Maybe they will remember the Chicago newspaperman's dicta not to believe anything you are told no matter who tells you: "If your mama says she loves you, check it out."
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  109. @Anonymous

    The girls in the media have just lost it. I blame smart phones, Twitter, Facebook and clickbait sites
     
    Nah. Women are wired this way. Their neurons make them WAY over-empathetic, which is a good thing when it comes to birthing and taking care of infants.

    But when they get collectively scared and uncertain about the future they feed on each other's emotions and conjure up all kinds of group craziness, whether it is the girls who ginned up the Salem Witch Trials, the Recovered Memory scam, the Satanism scam, the Pre-School Child Sex Abuse craze, or today's sex panic over Campus Rape.

    They are just weird that way. Ask Linda Fairstein of the Manhattan DA's office.

    I agree that women are more empathetic than men, and that there’s doubtless an evolutionary explanation for this.

    I think the more interesting issue is the changing target of female empathy. It makes sense to feel empathy toward your children, but does it make sense to feel empathy for total strangers? What are the conditions of female empathy? My sense is that empathy varies from woman to woman, and is probably culturally conditioned to some extent.

    For instance, I have the most empathy for women who are victimized in home invasions. It’s clearly not the woman’s fault for being in her own home, and I could be in the same situation. I also have deep, sometimes debilitating, empathy for animals. I think it has something to do with their obvious innocence, and how mind-bogglingly awful animals have it these days. Thus I have zero empathy for fat people (like Eric Garner) whose gluttony, which is made possible by doing horrible things to animals on industrial farms, contributes to their untimely deaths. I would shove the glutton in front of a train to save a pig if I could get away with it. And I resent the humanity mongering that tells me I should feel empathy for every member of my species before, say, my dog, or the animals we rely on.

    But even when I initially believed the Rolling Stone gang rape piece, I didn’t feel empathy for Jackie. I thought, “I need to make sure my unborn child understands the risks of attending frat parties.” Deep down, I think Jackie’s an idiot for falling for a frat guy, and not at all a sympathetic character. I’m totally mystified by Jezebel readers’ reaction to Merlan’s piece and to her shitty apology.

    Interestingly, there’s a SNP (rs53576) that is correlated with empathy. People with the G allele are reportedly more empathetic, less lonely, better at socializing, etc. People with GG are the most empathetic, while AG people and especially AA people are less. http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs53576. My 23andme raw data says I’m AG, which sounds about right.

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  110. dearieme says:
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    Anna Merlan of Jezebel does the right thing and apologizes to Richard Bradley:

    This is really, really bad. It means, of course, that when I dismissed Richard Bradley and Robby Soave's doubts about the story and called them "idiots" for picking apart Jackie's account, I was dead fucking wrong, and for that I sincerely apologize.
     

    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: “I was dead fucking wrong”. Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?

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    The boys curse, so can the girls!!!

    Besides 'well behaved women rarely make history'

    ...and Anna is defiantly going to leave her mark on history!
    , @AnotherDad

    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: “I was dead fucking wrong”. Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?
     
    The left--"left" kind of a misnomer, my brother is on the left (wants finance reigned in, wants universal health care, wants high wages) is disgusted by Ferguson and this nonsense.

    Anyway, the "left" is nothing but foul. The don't seem to be able to utter what little "argument" they have without throwing around profanity to show their "authenticity" or "passion" or ... something. They remind me of nothing so much as chimps always flinging around and living in their shit.
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  111. whorefinder says: • Website

    Steve, I do have to say that this entire incident demonstrates your true power as a commentator. Despite the fact that you were “banished” from NR and nobody even mentions your name in the mainstream press (except in the circumstances where a left-winger wants to “prove” how ignorant the right is, and so cites “former NR contributor” Steve Sailer, Servant of Evil)—-despite all this, you’ve taken a moderately successful magazine story Confirming the Narrative and Believed By All Good People, and, by your lonesome (using Bradley’s more respectable name as a proxy criticizer) completely blown its credibility up into…a million little pieces of shattered glass (sorry couldn’t resist the double pun there).

    I assume Steve honed in on this story as a test of his current actual power in the media as opposed to his official unPerson status. Well done Steve; you’ve proven you have real sway. I wonder what other political commentators in history we can compare him to: people who are officially not talked about and are non-existent, but secretly influence/criticize the creators of the narrative.

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  112. Art Deco says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me.

    There’s M. Larry Lawrence and Joseph Ellis (who claimed to have seen combat; do not know if they claimed to be heroes).

    There was a mess of fake confederate veterans during the period running from 1930 to 1960. These were not ‘successful’ men; they were applying for pensions faux de mieux.

    Who else do you have in mind?

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  113. Muse says:
    @Luke Lea
    Where does it go from here? Anybody care to guess?

    Yes. They are going to continue to encourage Ferguson protests to distract the people from the fact that Obama is violating the Constitution by not enforcing immigration laws while he simutaneously tries to start a war in Ukraine with his warmongering GOP friends as we send more “advisors” to Iraq and Afganistan.

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  114. @Steve Sailer
    Brown's endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

    Brown’s endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

    Yes. I know that all too well.

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  115. I don’ think Jackie deserves to shoulder the bulk of the blame. A loon can blabber all day long, but it takes mass media to convey the loon’s fantasies to the world, and it takes ideologues to give credence to the loon’s sick dreams.

    The ones to blame are the ones with power: Erdely for writing an obviously sensational, polemical, and (shall we say?) embellished article; Rolling Stone for publishing the article without check its credibility, etc; and the entire Feminist-PC system for jumping on the bandwagon without a second thought.

    Jackie deserves pity more than blame.

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    Here's what I said in the comment you responded to.

    Rolling Stone and Erdely deserve the lion’s share of the blame, but Jackie is the person from whom the accusations ultimately arise.
     
    What I'm worried about is that the forthcoming backlash--from the fraternity, university, media, bloggers, and general public alike--will solely be directed at the easier target. People will gin up self-righteous condemnation toward a fabulist piece by a left-wing writer in a left-wing rag, but feminism in general and false rape claims as a way of getting attention specifically won't be challenged.

    This can't happen. The only way for false rape claims to stop is for disincentives to exist. Otherwise unhinged women on antidepressants will continue to make them. Jackie's full identity needs to be known, UVa should probably expel her, and we all need to quit falling for the feminist "don't blame the victim" crap. Jackie was never a victim--she happily told her changing story before RS interviewed her--so she deserves blame.

    RS deserves blame--most of it--for turning a ludicrous story by a disturbed woman into a serious rape allegation about a specific fraternity and university. But the lie ultimately originates from Jackie.

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  116. Keeping my schedule open for all the upcoming on-campus Take-Back-The-Night candlelight vigils in protest of the two recent gang rapes of white coeds by young black men.

    White feminist rape warriors could simply warn coeds of the dangers of dating blacks or, more in keeping with the style of these re-education Commandants, devise a curriculum for Freshman Orientation to Teach Black Men Not To Rape.

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  117. @reiner Tor
    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends. Jackie is not even the worst example of this, I personally find it even more disturbing when they encourage some individuals to mutilate themselves because they believe themselves to be women in male bodies.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends.

    It reminds me of the practice of Muslim terrorists of strapping the vest of explosives on retarded youth and sending them off to their reward.

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  118. and now we are left with the question “what else is rolling stone lying about”?

    and what about the other 3 gang rape cases that have gotten virtually ZERO coverage and i for one can’t figure out why…….

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  119. Now is the time for vigorous pursuit.

    Phi Kappa Psi– the national organization, not the UVA chapter– should file suit against Rolling Stone and Erdeley for libel. First thing Monday morning.

    The damage to the fraternity’s reputation is real, and ongoing. Mainstream media and the SJWs are continuing their “I don’t care if it isn’t true, rape is a problem anyway” spin on the retraction.

    Strike while the iron is hot…

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  120. @Rapparee

    'Jackie’s story... raised questions about the decisions Jackie made that evening – not going to a hospital or reporting the alleged crime to police or the school... She said she knew there was little if any forensic evidence that could prove the allegations two years after they occurred. “I didn't want a trial,” Jackie said. “I can’t imagine getting up on a defense stand having them tear me apart.”'
     
    As awful and gut-wrenching as it surely is to publicly admit being victimized, this is one area where more female solidarity and social pressure would help, rather than hurt. Women need to have it pounded into their heads in advance, before they've suffered a rape, that not coming forward immediately (and telling the unexpurgated truth, even the embarrassing parts) means that other women will suffer the same fate. A rapist doesn't stop raping just because his last victim's feelings were hurt, and sharing your emotions with other victims doesn't help the police build the case to have him put in a cage where he belongs.

    Women need to have it pounded into their heads in advance, before they’ve suffered a rape, that not coming forward immediately (and telling the unexpurgated truth, even the embarrassing parts) means that other women will suffer the same fate.

    Women don’t care much about that kind of thing. For them, morality tends to be personal and immediate, not something to benefit unknown others in the abstract.

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    Women have often promoted causes for the benefit of others. Countless times. Too many times. We never hear the end of it. Countless books, articles, docudramas, endless psychoanalytical discussions, endless fretting over whether you did the right thing
    The one that sticks out in my mind was Mary Bell Vincent, hitchhiker, raped at 14 by a psycho who also chopped off both her arms and left her in a drain pipe one dark night. Now, I know we can't be sure she wasn't luring the hideous creature on, but I'll wager she really was raped.
    The one thought that made her get up, hold high her bleeding stumps, and walk down the highway to be picked up by a duly horrified couple that just happened to be driving by, was that she must identify the perp so that it did not happen to another girl. She said a few days later, that was all she thought about. For her, her life was over. Not really, but it seemed like it at the time.

    I'm not an apologist for this Jackie case. Didn't sound right from the getgo. People who perpetrate hoaxes deliberately should be prosecuted. But you don't understand the half of it. And I personally wonder if the whole thing wasn't deliberately contrived for reasons that have nothing whatsoever to do with feminism or even "Jackie." Quite the contrary.

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  121. IBC says:
    @reiner Tor
    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends. Jackie is not even the worst example of this, I personally find it even more disturbing when they encourage some individuals to mutilate themselves because they believe themselves to be women in male bodies.

    Actually I started feeling sorry for Jackie.

    This Cult of Liberalism is really sickening in its abuse of (mildly or heavily) mentally disturbed people to further its ends.

    Yes, Jackie may not have been raped, but Sabrina Rubin Erdely certainly had her way with her.

    Overwhelmed from sitting through interviews with the writer, Jackie said she asked Erdely to be taken out of the article. She said Erdely refused and Jackie was told that the article would go forward regardless.

    (Washington Post)

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  122. Wilkey says:

    “This would have flown for weeks longer if she picked the University of Alabama rather than the University of Virginia.”

    Really? I mean, kudos to the Washington Post staff for doing their jobs, but don’t you think that any college town within the reach of a decent paper wouldn’t have seen the same thing?

    I don’t have much respect for my local papers, but if these charges had been aimed at, say, BYU or the University of Utah, I can almost guarantee that the Salt Lake Tribune and Deseret News would’ve jumped all over it – all the more so because this town doesn’t have as much to report as the D.C. area. And whatever paper covers the University of Alabama’s hometown? The story would’ve been falsified within a week. That state lives and dies by that school’s football team.

    Anyhow, anyone think the WaPo will get a well-deserved Pulitzer nod for tackling this story? Me neither.

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  123. @ManInOttawa

    Fair enough. although it sounds like enough information was provided for other students to infer who they are. In any case it sounds like this is a very disturbed girl.

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  124. Jackie’s initial choice of Brown over UVa also makes no sense because she was pre-med. Unlike say, Law and Finance, an undergrad Ivy education doesn’t lead to substantially higher compensation in Medicine relative to non-Ivy grads.

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  125. @AnonAnon
    Isn't Brown the bottom of the Ivy League? Brown and UVA aren't too far apart in the rankings. US News has Brown at 16 and UVA at 23, a negligible difference.

    Isn’t Brown the bottom of the Ivy League? Brown and UVA aren’t too far apart in the rankings. US News has Brown at 16 and UVA at 23, a negligible difference.

    Surely Cornell is at the bottom of the Ivy League. The difference between Brown and UVA is actually quite large — an average of 70 points on the verbal plus math components of the SAT. UVA gets credit for being bigger and having a highly selective law school.

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    Surely Cornell is at the bottom of the Ivy League.
     
    The old joke about Cornell is that it's the easiest Ivy to get into, but the hardest to get out of. With a degree, that is. If true, it earns more of my respect than the others.
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  127. Great work Steve, but I gotta ask how did you originally get wind of the RS story and then how did you find Richard Bradley’s critique?

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  128. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @dearieme
    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: "I was dead fucking wrong". Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?

    The boys curse, so can the girls!!!

    Besides ‘well behaved women rarely make history’

    …and Anna is defiantly going to leave her mark on history!

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  129. @Jason Roberts
    Great work Steve, but I gotta ask how did you originally get wind of the RS story and then how did you find Richard Bradley's critique?

    A reader emailed me the link to Bradley’s post on 11/24. I checked today to see if the reader would like public credit but he prefers to remain anonymous.

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  130. This Will Change Everything!

    We’ve won the war!

    The Liberals Have Been Humiliated!

    Conservatives Victorious!

    Ah, no. Not even close. Yes, obviously another liberal plot destroyed by the collective mindpower of the conservative online intelligentsia. Just one little problem. This changes nothing. Now tell me why not.

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    Yeah the conservatives have won a battle, but RS remains unblemished and no one got fired and the MSM retreated until the next narrative of evil white men doing something evil comes out.

    The problem is, too many conservatives refuse to recognize war has been declared against them. Instead they rationalize the RS article as a mistake instead of salvo aimed at them.
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  131. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Will Jakie be shunned by the rape survivors group at UVA? You would think so, but I'm not sure.

    “Rolling Stone is a joke.”

    They have to tread a fine line between abandoning their SJW girl readership (which they are desperate to grow) and correcting errors in the story. This episode will strengthen the hand of the more responsible editors at the RS.

    Maybe they will remember the Chicago newspaperman’s dicta not to believe anything you are told no matter who tells you: “If your mama says she loves you, check it out.”

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  132. David says:

    NPR covered this story for hours and hours over a week , being lavish with dark social implications and sparing with the word, “alleged.” Now they are doing the NPR shift, reporting the retraction as entirely Rolling Stone’s problem, complete with tisk-tisk, and not acknowledging they too were stooges. This is how they always handle a Narrative disintegration. And they remind us that Rape Culture is a real problem and one little bump shouldn’t “stop the momentum to do something about it.”

    Steve, good work.

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  133. Svigor says:

    The response of the Jezebel commentariat seems to be fury that the allegations are proven bogue. Which is kind of odd. Why would someone wish for a horrific event to have taken place?

    ANTI-SEMITE!!! (Holocaust DENIERS say the exact same thing)

    There’s M. Larry Lawrence and Joseph Ellis (who claimed to have seen combat; do not know if they claimed to be heroes).

    I don’t believe that.

    There was a mess of fake confederate veterans during the period running from 1930 to 1960. These were not ‘successful’ men; they were applying for pensions faux de mieux.

    I don’t believe that, either.

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  134. @Steve Sailer
    Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me.

    “Right, the number of successful men who have lied about being war heroes used to be pretty surprising to me.”

    There’s a near-700 page book on the subject, “Stolen Valor,” by B.G. Burkett. Many were mediocrities trying to make themselves important, but there were some fairly prominent men doing it.

    The most egregious phonies would claim to be the sole survivor of a massacre, escaped from a POW camp, etc. They would appear at ceremonies in uniform with a chest full of phony medals. Others would dress up in camo outfits and cry for the cameras.

    Some would claim to have committed atrocities and on investigation would be found never to have been in Vietnam. Still others would go to to the Vet Centers and complain how Vietnam messed them up, even though they had not been there.

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  135. GW says:
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    @GW

    I don' think Jackie deserves to shoulder the bulk of the blame. A loon can blabber all day long, but it takes mass media to convey the loon's fantasies to the world, and it takes ideologues to give credence to the loon's sick dreams.

    The ones to blame are the ones with power: Erdely for writing an obviously sensational, polemical, and (shall we say?) embellished article; Rolling Stone for publishing the article without check its credibility, etc; and the entire Feminist-PC system for jumping on the bandwagon without a second thought.

    Jackie deserves pity more than blame.

    Here’s what I said in the comment you responded to.

    Rolling Stone and Erdely deserve the lion’s share of the blame, but Jackie is the person from whom the accusations ultimately arise.

    What I’m worried about is that the forthcoming backlash–from the fraternity, university, media, bloggers, and general public alike–will solely be directed at the easier target. People will gin up self-righteous condemnation toward a fabulist piece by a left-wing writer in a left-wing rag, but feminism in general and false rape claims as a way of getting attention specifically won’t be challenged.

    This can’t happen. The only way for false rape claims to stop is for disincentives to exist. Otherwise unhinged women on antidepressants will continue to make them. Jackie’s full identity needs to be known, UVa should probably expel her, and we all need to quit falling for the feminist “don’t blame the victim” crap. Jackie was never a victim–she happily told her changing story before RS interviewed her–so she deserves blame.

    RS deserves blame–most of it–for turning a ludicrous story by a disturbed woman into a serious rape allegation about a specific fraternity and university. But the lie ultimately originates from Jackie.

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  136. Excellent work, Steve.

    Over the last few yrs there appears to be a larger focus: Uncovering the truth regarding the Narrative, one story revision at a time.

    Hard to imagine these types of in-depth investigations in a pre-net age.

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  137. Svigor says:

    The current lead article on Salon.com (as of 4:15 EST), however, has to be seen to be believed. Click on it. I dare ya.

    Our real white male problem

    Quoted racists (against whites):

    Claudia Horowitz
    Kevin Abel
    Jason Sokol
    Emma Goldberg

    So, is Sleeper an ANTI-SEMITE!!! out to make Jews look like racists, or what? Lemme check…

    Nope, he’s a Jew, too.

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  138. Mr. Anon says:

    Percy Gryce says:
    December 5, 2014 at 7:38 pm GMT

    I know Steve (among others) has been very cautious in suggesting that probably something happened to Jackie. I just reread today’s WaPo piece and my thought was: while maybe nothing external happened to her, she may simply have had a mental break. Schizophrenia is notorious for its unique onset in early adulthood. Just speculation–but it seems to fit the facts we know.”

    Maybe she got dumped by a boyfriend or rejected by some guy. Maybe she’s a flake. Who knows.

    Who cares.

    She was a willing participant in an attempt to destroy the reputations of other people. I have no sympathy for her – zero, none. Rape is a serious offense, a crime in fact – if she is unwilling to pursue criminal charges against the men whom she said viciously assaulted her, then……………….it never happened. They can’t have it both ways – they can’t claim that campus rape is a serious problem, and then also say that they are unwilling to do the one thing that would actually reduce it – putting the ostensible rapists in jail.

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  139. Henry says:

    I was going to mention this too. The author is Jewish, and if you look at her history of stories it looks like she has made a career of cherry picking stories that follow the narrative she chooses to believe in.

    Of course you will never hear anyone say that in public including Steve.

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  140. @dearieme
    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: "I was dead fucking wrong". Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?

    Anna Merlan of Jezebel: “I was dead fucking wrong”. Why emote about rapes, real or imagined, and other effects of the coarsening of society, and then contribute to that coarsening with filthy language?

    The left–”left” kind of a misnomer, my brother is on the left (wants finance reigned in, wants universal health care, wants high wages) is disgusted by Ferguson and this nonsense.

    Anyway, the “left” is nothing but foul. The don’t seem to be able to utter what little “argument” they have without throwing around profanity to show their “authenticity” or “passion” or … something. They remind me of nothing so much as chimps always flinging around and living in their shit.

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  141. Several Rolling Stone folks should be fired this. Note the biggest BS:

    “we decided to honor her request not to contact the man she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her”

    But publishing this story in a major national magazine would not anger her attackers too? Which is it Rolled Stones? If she were fearful she would not have told them anything!

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  142. rod1963 says:
    @leftist conservative
    This Will Change Everything!

    We've won the war!

    The Liberals Have Been Humiliated!

    Conservatives Victorious!

    Ah, no. Not even close. Yes, obviously another liberal plot destroyed by the collective mindpower of the conservative online intelligentsia. Just one little problem. This changes nothing. Now tell me why not.

    Yeah the conservatives have won a battle, but RS remains unblemished and no one got fired and the MSM retreated until the next narrative of evil white men doing something evil comes out.

    The problem is, too many conservatives refuse to recognize war has been declared against them. Instead they rationalize the RS article as a mistake instead of salvo aimed at them.

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  143. @Trumpenprole

    “If she had not come to me I probably would not have gone public about my rape,” said Jackie, who added that she had been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and that she is now on a regimen of anti-depressants.
     
    I have no doubt that Jackie truly believes the story she has told exactly as she told it. In virtually every mass homicide it turns out the perpetrator was on a cocktail of antidepressants. However, there aren't many females on the list of mass murderers. Perhaps this is because thoughts of homicide, one of the side effects of antidepressants, might for females turn out to be thoughts of rape.

    Isn’t the real 1 in 4 figure that 25% of US women are on anti-depressants?

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  144. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The big Washington Post story by T. Rees Shapiro has–dismayingly–many problems of its own, including instances of journalistic carelessness and the promotion of questionable claims through anonymous sources.

    To wit:

    Alex Pinkleton, a close friend of Jackie’s who survived a rape and an attempted rape during her first two years on campus, said in an interview…

    – Is it an established fact that Pinkleton was raped and attempted raped? Why is the Washington Post reporting it as such? I would bet this should read, “Pinkleton claims/says.”
    - Did these alleged incidents occur on campus? The Washington Post should clarify.
    - When did the media start using the phrasing “survive” sexual assault? Is that the appropriate word to use?
    - Suggested phrasing: “Pinkleton says she was victim of sexual assaults”

    The Post interviewed Jackie several times during the past week and has worked to corroborate her version of events…

    What is Jackie’s “version of events”? Is it the story that appeared in Rolling Stone? Is it a version she is now telling? The Washington Post doesn’t say.

    Jackie recounted an attack very similar to the one she presented in the magazine: She had gone on a date with a member of the house, went to a party there and ended up in a room where she was brutally attacked — seven men raping her in succession, with two others watching.

    Vaginal rape? Oral? The Washington Post doesn’t say.

    Rolling Stone ran a lengthy article about what it characterized as a culture of sex assault at the flagship state university, using Jackie’s story to illustrate how brazen such attacks can be and how indifferent the university is to them.

    Shouldn’t this instead be written: using Jackie’s story to illustrate how brazen such alleged attacks can be and how allegedly indifferent the university is to them?

    Jackie’s story empowered many women to speak publicly about attacks on them, but it also immediately raised questions about the decisions Jackie made that evening — not going to a hospital or reporting the alleged crime to police or the school

    Here’s how this should have been written:

    “Jackie’s story empowered many women to speak publicly about alleged attacks on them, but it also immediately raised questions about the decisions Jackie allegedly made that evening — not going to a hospital or reporting the alleged crime to police or the school”

    Although Jackie shared elements of her story at a Take Back the Night event at the university

    What elements of which of the stories? The Washington Post doesn’t specify.

    A student identified as “Andy” in the Rolling Stone article said in an interview with The Post Friday night that Jackie did call him and two other friends for help a few weeks into the fall semester in 2012.

    - Is Andy his real name? Why hasn’t the Washington Post given his full name? The newspaper doesn’t tell us.
    - “A few weeks into the fall semester.” Actual dates have become very important to this story. What night did this occur? The Washington Post doesn’t tell us.

    He said Jackie said that “something bad happened” and that he ran to meet her on campus, about a mile from the school’s fraternities.

    He “ran” (as in jogged) a mile to meet her? Why a mile off campus? Is there any first year student housing a mile off campus?

    “Andy” said Jackie said she had been at a fraternity party and had been forced to perform oral sex on a group of men

    How is one forced to perform oral sex on a group? Force must be difficult to impossible, so some kind of threats should be assumed to be necessary. What happened here? Was a gun put to her head? Did Shapiro ask “Andy”?

    She, instead, wanted to return to her dorm, and he and the friends spent the night with her to comfort her at her request.

    Were they up all night? Did they sleep on the floor? Was there a roommate there?

    Renda said she was raped her freshman year after attending a fraternity party.

    Is the Post implicating the fraternity here? Did they alleged rape occur in the fraternity house?

    Renda said Thursday that Jackie initially told her she was attacked by five students at Phi Kappa Psi.

    What does the Post/Renda mean here by t “attacked”?

    Renda said Thursday that Jackie initially told her she was attacked by five students at Phi Kappa Psi. Renda said she learned months later that Jackie had changed the number of attackers from five to seven.

    Isn’t the number now at 9, per the Rolling Stone story? The Post should note that here.

    Jackie’s former roommate, Rachel Soltis, said she noticed emotional and physical changes to her friend during the fall semester of 2012, when they shared a suite.

    Was Soltis in the suite the night Jackie came home with Andy and the rest of her friends and they all spent that night together?

    The Post asked Jackie numerous times to reveal the full name of the two attackers she said she recognized. She declined, saying she didn’t want the perpetrator “to come back in my life.”

    How would revealing the names bring the alleged men back into her life?

    Jackie said the Rolling Stone account of her attack was truthful, but she also acknowledged that some details in the article might not be accurate.

    Which details? Did the Post even ask her?

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  145. @ben tillman

    has there ever been a case of 9 white fraternity men involved in a gang rape ?
     
    Yes. A law-school classmate of mine (a little sister of the fraternity in question) witnessed one. And it was the best house on campus in a very prominent university.

    Bullshit.

    Claiming to have seen such a thing makes you holy, as seeing angels used to make you holy.

    Back when seeing angels made you holy, lots of people saw angels.

    The overwhelming majority of rape convictions are based on false rape accusations.

    You can tell this from the fact that very few rapes are “Woman abducted while jogging”, or “Burglar breaks in through bedroom window”, while the vast majority of rapes are “Drunken lying thieving violent slut goes to private place with a man, and, surprise surprise, gets raped.”

    Kind of like any black man killed by white racists for reasons of racism always turns out, by amazing coincidence, to be a criminal.

    If these rapists are really rapists, then somehow, strangely, the vast majority of rapists are picking on those women most likely to consent, which seems odd behavior for rapists. While in any one rape, a rapist might pick on a woman who is unusually likely to consent, kind of odd that nearly all of them do nearly all of the time.

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  146. nano says:

    “Here are photos of the dead coed and the accused.”

    I wonder if there’s a pattern of these kind of hoaxes occurring after an incident that might trigger someone’s PC circuitry?

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  147. @ben tillman

    Isn’t Brown the bottom of the Ivy League? Brown and UVA aren’t too far apart in the rankings. US News has Brown at 16 and UVA at 23, a negligible difference.
     
    Surely Cornell is at the bottom of the Ivy League. The difference between Brown and UVA is actually quite large -- an average of 70 points on the verbal plus math components of the SAT. UVA gets credit for being bigger and having a highly selective law school.

    Surely Cornell is at the bottom of the Ivy League.

    The old joke about Cornell is that it’s the easiest Ivy to get into, but the hardest to get out of. With a degree, that is. If true, it earns more of my respect than the others.

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  148. @Steve Sailer
    Brown's endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

    Brown’s endowment is a lot smaller than the endowments of Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

    So the slave trade wasn’t as remunerative as we’ve been told? Another iSteve scoop!

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  149. fish says:
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    Anna Merlan of Jezebel does the right thing and apologizes to Richard Bradley:

    This is really, really bad. It means, of course, that when I dismissed Richard Bradley and Robby Soave's doubts about the story and called them "idiots" for picking apart Jackie's account, I was dead fucking wrong, and for that I sincerely apologize.
     

    It’s a start I suppose!

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  150. Kudos Steve. All hail the Stevosphere!

    This proves that the megaphone press reads you while pretending that you don’t exist. But we all knew that.

    As a former investigator, one factor in this whole sorry mess stands out. Once a young woman on campus intimates that she has been taken advantaged of, there is no going back once she falls into the hands of feminist grievance workers. It’s hard for me to imagine such a coed backing away from an overstatement without feelings of betrayal toward her “advocates.” Such “Advocates” seek to control the course of events from there on. Since actual prosecutions are rare, the allegations are believed, and the advocates win without having their victims pass any sort of legal fact finding.

    Enter Ms. Renda, who said she is, “An advocate(and is) is not supposed to be an investigator, a judge or an adjudicator,” said Renda, a 2014 graduate who works for the university as a sexual violence awareness specialist. Yet she it was who delivered “Jackie” into the hands of Sabrina Rubin Erdely, feminist, publicist harridan. So UVA hired people to uncritically trumpet imagined abuses. Such is the power of Feminism that the university would never think to hire someone to take an impartial assessment of such stories, much less a critical one.

    This story reminds me of the Anita Hill vs Clarence Thomas farrago. Hill was eager to cast allegations at Thomas, as long as she could remain anonymous. Like “Jackie” she got caught up in her own BS when her feminist sisters shoved her out into the spotlight. The moral being, feminists can’t even trust each other.

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  151. Dahlia says:

    Looks like Steve’s tipper to the Bradley article wasn’t kidding about this being only the beginning.

    I’ve heard of two cases where Erdely and Rolling Stone were accused of similar twistings and distortions like with UVa and Jackie.
    One involved gays and bullying, but the other is much more serious.

    Three priests and a teacher went to jail who were featured in Erdely’s piece, “The Catholic Church’s Secret Sex-Crime Files”, though Erdely and Rolling Stone had nothing to do with plucking out “Billy”. One priest had his conviction overturned (a major villain in Erdely’s piece, but prosecutor is appealing) One of the priests died in jail last month.
    According to the blogger, Ralph Cipriano, who has been devoted to the cause of their innocence for the last two years, this is due to an overly ambitious district attorney acting on the tales more fantastical and changing than Jackie’s. They are in the midst of getting the rest overturned, but they’re up against a lot.

    This is something to keep our eyes on and find out more about; according to the blogger, “Billy’s” story began unraveling sometime after conviction. They’ve had trouble getting outsiders interested.

    He responded to my questions in the comments.

    http://www.bigtrial.net/2014/12/before-rolling-stone-was-conned-by.html#more

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-catholic-churchs-secret-sex-crime-files-20110906

    The last one goes into the meanspiritness of the article:

    http://www.catholicleague.org/rolling-stone-gets-ugly-vile-hit-on-philly-archdiocese-2/

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  152. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous
    I just realized what this story has been reminding me of all along: the saga of Alicia Esteve Head, aka Tania Head, a purported 9/11 survivor from Spain and prominent media figure who rose to the presidency of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network before being found out for the fraud she was

    Munchausen's Syndrome. A real attention-getter. Women are particularly prone to it. Whether it is a book by a fake holocaust survivor, rape survivor, or child sex abuse survivor the pattern is the same: victimhood=attention from others.

    Guys are different. They pretend to be heroes, wear fake uniforms and medals, and talk about their fake experiences as a SEAL back in 'Nam. Same attention-getting pattern, with one big difference: woman-as-victim needs an Evil Oppressor (preferably male!).

    Compare and contrast: Women playing victims, men pretending to be heroes.

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  153. BobInVA says:
    @Jon
    Favorite comment of the whole debacle (so far): "I liked this story better when it had lacrosse players and a stripper"

    Much better, plus we had the mug shots of the Lacrosse players. I hope the DA in Charlottesville remembers the name Mike Nifong.

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  154. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Vindication!

    The response of the Jezebel commentariat seems to be fury that the allegations are proven bogue. Which is kind of odd. Why would someone wish for a horrific event to have taken place?

    Because it’s a blog of, by and for Jewish lesbians?

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  155. I’d love to see Sailer’s take on this ridiculous and apologetic editorial:

    http://www.medicaldaily.com/opinion-rolling-stones-retraction-uva-rape-story-fuels-rape-culture-why-i-stand-313328

    “Society is so passive and tolerant of violence against women it practically dares it to continue.”

    My understanding is that spousal abuse against women has dramatically declined over the last few decades. So, I’m not seeing it. It seems to me that society has gotten the message. Try again.

    “I wonder: what would the world be like if we put as much time and effort into believing victims of rape and sexual assault as we do in reprieving those accused of it? As it stands, about six percent of rape accusations are false.”

    And this is one of those false accusations. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? It seems to me that you’re trying to obscure the particulars of this hoax in the generalities of a vast number of other cases.

    …and for good measure, because the word “medical” is attached to the journal’s name, they felt the need to mention something about “neurobiology”….even though the subject has really nothing to do with this case and serves only as filler between excuses.

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  156. dcite says:
    @ben tillman

    Women need to have it pounded into their heads in advance, before they’ve suffered a rape, that not coming forward immediately (and telling the unexpurgated truth, even the embarrassing parts) means that other women will suffer the same fate.
     
    Women don't care much about that kind of thing. For them, morality tends to be personal and immediate, not something to benefit unknown others in the abstract.

    Women have often promoted causes for the benefit of others. Countless times. Too many times. We never hear the end of it. Countless books, articles, docudramas, endless psychoanalytical discussions, endless fretting over whether you did the right thing
    The one that sticks out in my mind was Mary Bell Vincent, hitchhiker, raped at 14 by a psycho who also chopped off both her arms and left her in a drain pipe one dark night. Now, I know we can’t be sure she wasn’t luring the hideous creature on, but I’ll wager she really was raped.
    The one thought that made her get up, hold high her bleeding stumps, and walk down the highway to be picked up by a duly horrified couple that just happened to be driving by, was that she must identify the perp so that it did not happen to another girl. She said a few days later, that was all she thought about. For her, her life was over. Not really, but it seemed like it at the time.

    I’m not an apologist for this Jackie case. Didn’t sound right from the getgo. People who perpetrate hoaxes deliberately should be prosecuted. But you don’t understand the half of it. And I personally wonder if the whole thing wasn’t deliberately contrived for reasons that have nothing whatsoever to do with feminism or even “Jackie.” Quite the contrary.

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  157. From CNN:

    “The University of Virginia’s Phi Kappa Psi chapter did not have a party the night of September 28, 2012, the date when the reported attack occurred, the fraternity chapter’s lawyer, Ben Warthen, told CNN. He said email records and Inter-fraternity Council records prove there was no party.”

    What records?!

    Tommy Reid, president of the Inter-Fraternity Council, said that, “all Greek organizations must register parties with the IFC. He said that the council’s records did not date back to the fall of 2012.”

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  158. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous

    She said she was disappointed when her family told her that they could not afford the Ivy League tuition. She enrolled at U-Va. without ever visiting the school.
     
    I wonder if that's BS too. The Ivies are very generous with "need based aid".

    Not in my experience. My son was admitted to Harvard Law and he didn’t go because their aid offer was zero. And there is no way I could have coughed up $70 K plus per year.

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  159. […] contributions to the field of HBD, a film critic with a unique perspective, and a journalist who exposed important lies that fooled the best and brightest in media. He is cited by eminent scientists and even […]

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  160. […] its head – for instance when it turns out that a dindu nuffin did do something, or perhaps when a campus rape allegation turns out to be a lovelorn feminist’s catfishing adventures – the left attempts to cover their embarrassment at being wrong yet again by instructing all […]

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  161. […] we’ve learned anything from the unraveling of Rolling Stone’s now-retracted story about an alleged rape and cover-up at a University of […]

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  162. […] we’ve learned anything from the unraveling of Rolling Stone’s now-retracted story about an alleged rape and cover-up at a University of […]

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  163. […] we’ve learned anything from the unraveling of Rolling Stone’s now-retracted story about an alleged rape and cover-up at a University of […]

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  164. […] we’ve learned anything from the unraveling of Rolling Stone’s now-retracted story about an alleged rape and cover-up at a University of […]

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