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From the Wall Street Journal:

Students Were Advised to Claim to Be Minorities in College-Admissions Scandal

5/18/19 | Melissa Korn, Jennifer Levitz
Posted on 5/18/2019, 3:34:13 AM by Libloather

BOSTON—The man behind the scheme to help wealthy students get into elite colleges by cheating on tests and faking athletic credentials also advised some families to falsely claim students were racial minorities, exploiting the push to diversify campuses, according to two people familiar with the situation.

A son of Marjorie Klapper, a parent scheduled to plead guilty Friday for participating in the scheme, was incorrectly listed on his Common Application as being black and Hispanic, the people said. William “Rick” Singer, the college counselor who has agreed to plead guilty in the case and is awaiting sentencing, also arranged for a proctor to cheat on the ACT admissions test for the teen, according to a Federal Bureau of Investigation affidavit filed in the case. …

Mr. Singer frequently gave families the option of misrepresenting race and would say that not doing so could put their child at a “competitive disadvantage,” said one of the people, who is familiar with his business. …

A son of Marjorie Klapper, a parent scheduled to plead guilty Friday for participating in the scheme, was incorrectly listed on his Common Application as being black and Hispanic, the people said. …

….a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office,
requested the paperwork for an African-American scholarship…….he got a full free ride his senior year……

 
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  1. Anon000 says:

    OT:

    This commercial is a religious experience.

    We are not supercars, We are Lamborghini.

  2. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s not clear that the “false claims of racial minority” were part of the criminal indictments, from the excerpts. That stuff (1) might not be illegal, and (2) would certainly open a can of worms that social justice people don’t want opened.

    — An official blood quantum rule for minorities?

    — A one drop rule?

    — Is 23 and Me sufficient proof?

    — Hispanic means … exactly what?

    — Can whites sue pale blacks for cutting the line with their “fake” claims of blackness, and demand that they get genetic tests?

    — Is there a hierarchy, such that fake 1/1,024th blacks get less consideration than 75 percent African ancestry blacks? Do 50 percneters get lower than 75 percenters then?

    — Is there a “quality of blackness” rule, whereby slave descendants get more consideration than slave seller descendant recent immigrants? Are U.S. slave higher than Caribbean slaves on the preference scale?

  3. ….a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office,
    requested the paperwork for an African-American scholarship…….he got a full free ride his senior year……

    As with the Somali nomads who descended on Lewiston, the scandal is not that he did this. It is that he was able to do this. Or anyone else is.

    As they say at the casino, the house always wins.

  4. Wilkey says:

    Of course whites should claim to be racial minorities on their applications. Duh. One reason conservatives keep losing is because we refuse to match the Left at their own game. If affirmative action were a conservative program and was hated by the Left they would be doing everything they could to help destroy it, and the easiest thing of all that you can do is simply to lie about your race or ethnicity.

  5. ….a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office,

    Leave those people alone, Uncle Sailer.

    Haven’t they suffered enough already… during the Apartheid?

    • LOL: bomag
  6. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:

    I think that this approach would work:

    — My grandmother told me that her grandfather was part black

    — 23 and Me confirmed some African ancestry

    — Yeah, I don’t look black, but that wasn’t the question on the application; I do have black ancestry, and to be honest, more and more that knowledge had started to change my thinking and my sense of identity

    — Will I show you my 23 and Me results? Sorry, no can do, privacy. Actually, you need to keep this conversation itself private from people outside of admissions

    The problem then is that admissions has complete unsupervised discretion. They do not have to give preference to”black” students they don’t like, such as white-looking black students.

    So the trick would probably involve turning black at an early enough age to document it by membership in organizations or the like. Then you become a Shawn King level black.

    Also, a skinhead haircut is essential. Is it nappy or not? Who knows.

    Brown contacts? That lapses into fraud … or maybe not.

  7. Rick Singer Advised White Parents to Claim Their Kids Were Nonwhite on College Applications

    Now, that’s something I approve of.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @lavoisier
  8. Bubba says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    At first read I thought you meant the beautiful town of Lewiston, Idaho (not Maine) and it got me thinking about the barbaric invasion of nearby Twin Falls, thanks to Chobani’s slimy CEO Hamdi Ulukaya.

    BTW – the GoogleBolsheviks sure do a fine job of censoring any dissension on this subject.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  9. I’m starting to really like this Rick Singer guy. He’s the kind of out-of-the-box thinker Trump is short of in his administration. He might make a good campaign manager…

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    , @RonaldB
  10. An old trick used by the left for decades: exploit their own rules against them.

  11. Bubba says:

    Students Were Advised to Claim to Be Minorities in College-Admissions Scandal

    These WSJ reporterettes get the 2019 Captain Louis Renault Hypocrisy Award (“I’m shocked that there is gambling going on in this establishment!”/”Sir, here are your winnings.”) for their article which is at least 30 years late.

    And Hollywood will never apologize for the 1986 movie Soul Man about a white kid pretending to be black so he can get a black-only scholarship to Harvard Law School.


    (Notice the pimp suit and watermelon)

    And maybe it’s a good thing the “reporters” are completely ignorant of iSteve’s posts on Brazil and race. These 2 useful idiots might have a nervous breakdown when they realize that is our future in America.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @njguy73
  12. All students – especially whites – should apply for minority scholarships. If admissions questions their blackness (which is after all a social construct) and eventually DNA tests are required to qualify, then we get to enjoy young woke octaroons discovering that they are Europeans (mostly)!

    BTW, Whenever someone mentions in conversation something about Hussein Obama being the first “black president” I always add “you mean the first at least half but not completely white president”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  13. @Wilkey

    But … but “race is a social construct”!

    A classic Orwellian example of believing two different things at once.

  14. ….a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office, requested the paperwork for an African-American scholarship…….he got a full free ride his senior year……

    So, just being from Africa made him ‘African-American’? Hmmmm. Where have I heard that one before …

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084513/posts

  15. Lot says:

    White South Africans are about 6% black ancestry. That’s more than plenty of official African Americans.

  16. Jack D says:
    @Sextus Empiricus

    at least half

    Obama’s father (assuming he was really Obama Sr.) had not one drop of white blood.

  17. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Not if they are Jewish.

  18. Former Singer employee here again. I worked with the Klapper kid, and I won’t comment on the specific allegations in the article because the Klappers were nice to me. They are decent people who may have gotten caught up in something they didn’t understand the full implications of, but it would be a travesty of the highest order to sentence the mom to any amount of prison time. As I see it, they’ve suffered enough.

    I will however point to the fact that it is debatable whether Singer’s clients were so uniformly “white.” Of the ten families I worked with who have been charged with crimes (I worked with many, many other families who were completely legit, although I know that a few as-yet-unindicted families are sweating right now, and for good reason), only four of them were non-Hispanic, non-Jewish, non-Arabic whites.

    The Klappers were some of the most Jewish people I’ve ever seen, and I will say only that they got a lot of mileage out of the kid’s Jewishness in other portions of the application – namely, the essays.

    There were also three affluent Latin families, with roots in the “Southern Cone,” or in parts of the Caribbean that are known for occasionally producing high-achieving Latinos. Is this – Banana Republic-style corruption among successful Latin immigrants – perhaps a Thing?

    There were two very Jewish families, and another one of the kid’s moms was Jewish where the father was Latin.

    One family was thoroughly Irish, and some wags round about the more #frogtwitterish precincts of the interwebz like to say the Irish aren’t white. Lol. (This would reduce the total number of charged white families I worked with to 3/10.)

    One family was Egyptian, and quite Muslim.

    Thus, many of these families could, and (I will say) did, legitimately and successfully manage to accrue to themselves (by means I will not discuss) a (I’m guessing) not altogether unhelpful quantity of Intersectional Pokemon Points.

    If, however, you’re Jewish – you can certainly milk that, but to claim to be black and Hispanic on top of your Jewishness would transform your kid into a veitable juggernaut of Intersectionality. (Again, I am speaking hypothetically. I will give the Klappers the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are not guilty of the ethical laspes imputed to them in the article.)

    Strangely, the American Asians I worked with were pretty honest, which is odd, given that Asians are, statistically, the racial group most likely to cheat.

    I am also fairly certain, but not 100 percent sure, that Rick Singer is Jewish. He did, after all, coach 6th grade basketball at a Jewish school back in the 90’s.

    In any event, I will leave it to wonkier intellects than my own to figure out whether ethnicity/race has any bearing on the propensity of a person to cheat.

  19. @Former Singer Employee

    Is it illegal? I dunno… Why don’t we ask Native American law professor Elizabeth Warren.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Bubba
  20. Well, the South African Jewish kid has more of the African part than most African-Americans.

  21. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Former Singer Employee

    From my experience, Latin Whites are ambitious, tribalistic, loquacious, interested in politics, and dishonest. A very good fit for today’s America.

  22. Cortes says:
    @The Alarmist

    Recently I had the great fortune to learn through Volume V of The Telegraph Book of Obituaries of a possible model for Fauxcahontas:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/03/obituaries/brown-thrush-80-pressed-indian-rights.html

    The Telegraph version is superior.

    On faking life stories: a very good friend once wangled an interview by ticking “African” on the ethnicity section of an application form for a well-paid job in a bureaucracy. To its credit, the panel did ask him about it, seeing as he was a whiter shade of pale. To his credit, he stated that his family was originally from the East African Rift Valley. He didn’t get the job.

  23. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    Not if they are Jewish.

    Everyone knows mixing with the Schvartzes is for the goys, not the Jews.

    Jews use social pressure and shaming to keep their lines pure. Good for them.

  24. @Anon

    It seems possible that if offshore CRISPR babies become an option for the wealthy, some Western parents would choose a gene mod for darker skin to accompany height, IQ, and disease resistance. If you’re paying for unfair advantage, why not go all the way?

  25. @Reg Cæsar

    If he was born in Africa, then according to Current Year ideology he should have been able to call himself an African, so African-American would be similar to someone calling themselves Somali-American because they were born in Somalia but are American citizens.

    So white people are not permitted to call themselves ‘African’ even if they have roots in Africa. They will always be white and therefore European (in this case, Jewish). Yet at the same time, actual white Europeans in Europe are told that they do not represent true Europeans, because Europe belongs to everyone and has always been diverse. Immigrants to Europe get to be European the second they get to Europe, whites never get to be Africans even after generations. Meanwhile, actual Europeans don’t get to be any more European than the more recent arrivals. The only group whites are actually permitted to belong to is White, and we are constantly told that this is wrong and meaningless.

    The logic of this way of thinking seems to me to end in genocide, maybe quickly and violently, maybe slowly and fairly peacefully.

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
  26. Jake says:

    Right here is the problem: “….a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office,
    requested the paperwork for an African-American scholarship…….he got a full free ride his senior year……”

    It is anti-Semitic to tell the truth about RICH Jews cheating and lying and blaming it all on the poor whire trash.

  27. @Bubba

    The invasion of Twin Falls is an American tragedy. Unfortunately, not much can be done at this point because Chobani is a money machine. Just look at how their products dominate the yogurt selection at most grocery stores.

    • Replies: @Alden
  28. Time for some Bob Ross:

  29. @Former Singer Employee

    “Jack D” says that William “Rick” Singer is absolutely not Jewish and that’s good enough for everyone here.

    I mean, he looks Jewish, acts Jewish, has a Jewish name and was caught making his money in an extremely, stereotypically Jewish manner, but that’s all just coincidence and prejudice at work.

    Please move along–nothing to see here. And that goes for your other racial aspersions, which will cause many regulars here to blow fuses. Which is to say: good fun!

  30. bomag says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It is that he was able to do this

    Yes, but it is another reminder that such programs were designed for a more cooperative and honest people.

  31. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    No one pays any attention to that drivel. It’s all a massive scam.

    # the diversity rackets # mass immigration

  32. Jack D says:
    @Former Singer Employee

    (Again, I am speaking hypothetically. I will give the Klappers the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are not guilty of the ethical laspes imputed to them in the article.)

    Cut the bullshit. They are guilty as hell. They have been caught red handed. They are pleading guilty in Federal court. Whatever they are pleading to voluntarily, they did twice as much.

    A son of Marjorie Klapper, a parent scheduled to plead guilty Friday for participating in the scheme, was incorrectly listed on his Common Application as being black and Hispanic, the people said. William “Rick” Singer, the college counselor who has agreed to plead guilty in the case and is awaiting sentencing, also arranged for a proctor to cheat on the ACT admissions test for the teen

    They are decent people who may have gotten caught up in something they didn’t understand the full implications of, but it would be a travesty of the highest order to sentence the mom to any amount of prison time. As I see it, they’ve suffered enough.

    What part of “I’m donating $15,000 to a phony foundation and Rick Singer is going to get a proctor to change my son’s wrong answers to write answer” didn’t she understand? What part of “I’m not really a shvarze but I’m going to check the “I am a shvarze” box didn’t she get?

  33. RonaldB says:
    @Wilkey

    That’s a recipe for disaster.

    The consequences of conservative students claiming minority status would be that virtually all of them would be vulnerable to exposure, impoverishment, and censure whenever one of them became inconvenient to the communists. They could not be politicians running on a conservative platform. Think of Elizabeth “Pocahontas” on stilts.

    So, what you’re proposing will guarantee no voice for conservatives or alt-right or dissident right in the foreseeable future.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  34. RonaldB says:
    @Anon

    Very good point. The fuzziness of the racial preference scam allows the, almost invariably leftist administrators to choose based on the political views of the applicant. The black, brown, or yellow conservative is rare enough that they can be filtered out and still meet the racial quotas. In fact, the admissions don’t need to be based on academic qualifications at all. Any minority can major in minority studies, where they are certain to get passing grades.

  35. RonaldB says:
    @International Jew

    Out of the box? A mediocre scholar like Elizabeth Warren used the racial scam a long time ago. What’s out of the box about a sociopath like Singer?

    • Replies: @njguy73
  36. RonaldB says:
    @Former Singer Employee

    The parents committed fraud and some prison time is appropriate. The accrued charges for accused not pleading guilty adding up to 20 years or more is a complete travesty of justice. It illustrates the totalitarian bent of federal prosecutions, which have a high conviction rate. What they do is pile on loads of petty or minor charges and multiple major charges based on the same action. The accused is ruined by the legal expenses, and ultimately has to rely either on pro bono work by a lawyer, or a public defender, who advises them to accept the plea deal, guilty or not. By the way, the many charges make it easy for a jury to compromise on questionable prosecutions, throw out most of the charges, convict on a few. Which is about as ruinous to a defendant as a block conviction.

    So, the whole system is set up to elicit plea deals or face long prison terms with no parole. I don’t see any difference between this and a police state.

    The appropriate course of action is to make one charge for one crime.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  37. RonaldB says:

    Let me point out something idiotic about these parents who paid Singer to cheat their kids into a high-prestige college.

    Even if everything went as planned, they are setting their kids up for failure.

    The only benefits of a high-prestige college, for kids academically unqualified to enter on their own merits, is for the social contacts and prestige to give them a boost in politics or networking-heavy professions, such as school administration, etc.

    But, virtually all these kids are blocked from high office, for the same reason Elizabeth Warren, a highly-unqualified academic and politician, never really got on track for the Presidency. Their fraud will follow them, can easily be discovered by any persistent opposition research, and will invariably block their progress and ambitions.

    I can’t say enough bad things about parents who want their kids in a college that is beyond their abilities. College will be neither productive nor enjoyable, as they will not be able to keep up in substantive classes. It’s the same phenomenon that Thomas Sowell noted for affirmative-action black college admissions. The unqualified black students become frustrated, embittered and drop out of high-end colleges, where they could be perfectly well-qualified and successful in a lower-ranked collage.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  38. Jack D says:

    BTW, part of what made Singer’s fraud possible was the “extended time” racket. The regular SAT is given in a big room with hundreds of other kids, but you get special (bribe-able) proctors for “extended time”. It was a given that all of Singer’s kids were going to have “extended time” – this is a “legal” form of gaming the system.

    Once upon a time, if your kid had a disability (originally meaning an actual physical disability) the SAT or the ACT would give you extended time but there would be a little asterisk on your score report “Given under extended time conditions”. Well, THAT’S DISCRIMINATION. Some disability rights group (their test plaintiff, chosen for maximum sympathy, literally had no arms) sued the College Board and the consent degree was that from now on there would be nothing on you score report to indicate extended time – the college would never know.

    Step 2 – “Disability” doesn’t just mean physical disability. It also means “learning disability”. Guess what – every rich kid in America whose parents want him to attend a better college than he is really qualified for (as we have seen from Singer, this is a big market among the soccer moms of suburbia) now has a learning disability. All you need to do is get tested for this by a psychologist. This only costs a few thousand $ – nothing to this crowd. They are already dropping $50K a year on private school. The psychologist will administer a bunch of tests, and guess what – it turns out that Young Klapper HAS a “learning disability”. (In other words Jon is really not that smart – if he was really smart he’d be getting 1600s on his own and wouldn’t need this bullshit). So does virtually every other less than brilliant kid in America, but the parents of Cletus from Iowa don’t have thousand of extra $ lying around in order to prove it. It doesn’t even occur to them to do this (there’s no network of soccer moms passing the info around the grapevine where they live). If they did have an extra $5K lying around (say they won the Pick Six, because otherwise they are never going to see that much cash in a lump sum) , they’d use it to pay down some of their bills so that the debt collectors would stop calling and not to buy Cletus extra time on his SAT. But the parents of young Jonathan do so he gets twice as long to finish his ACT or SAT – really takes the time pressure off. And when Stanford gets his application, they’ll never know – his score looks the same as everyone else’s. Why WOULDN’T you do this if you had the bucks and wanted to help your little Jonny?

    Now most of the time, there’s no added extra twist that the proctor has been bribed to change your answers, but, as I said before, the extended time part of the racket is perfectly legal and it’s a big advantage (although maybe less so now that every other Jonathan and Jessica have extended time too). There are never going to be any Federal indictments over this because it’s 100% legal.

  39. I went to a good law school. We had a lot of trouble with students discovering they were black/hispanic/native american for the journals and law review quota (later renamed a strict goal, and later a critical mass).

    The method adopted then was to hire an investigation firm to pull their elementary records to check race honesty there

    Even at a top school (unless you are at Harvard or Yale), the best firms will only hire someone from law review or a high level journal.

  40. No surprise here. Back in the late 1970s the Air Force set aside 4-year scholarships for minority applicants. It all fell apart when the decision was made to send Air Force officers to the homes of scholarship winners to congratulate the parents and the winner and were quite often surprised to find the applicant was not a minority. The parents were usually stunned, but the applicants invariably stated that they knew they could not get a scholarship with their grades and SAT scores unless they identified themselves as a minority. They still got the scholarship because pulling it would result in a PR disaster. So quite few non-minority students slipped in under the minority heading. Most would, like Liz Warren, claim Native American heritage but a few white kids would identify themselves as black. Similar scholarships were awarded to Puerto Rican applicants who were then sent to English language school (the Defense Language Institute in San Antonio, TX) before they started college. Most flunked out quickly, so the scholarship winners were then allowed to remain in Puerto Rico (at Mayaguez, usually) and then went to English language training before commissioning as second lieutenants.

  41. TED says:

    My Son-in-law recently got his “23 and me” results, and was surprised to find that he is 0.2% Sub-Saharan African. This has got him a lot of ragging on his like of basketball, dancing ability, and food choices.

    However, I pointed out to him that, back in the day, he would not have been allowed to attend my “whites only” high school in rural Alabama, and would have had to attend G. W. Carver high school, across the tracks in the “colored” part of town.

    That being the case, he should check off the “African-American” box on every questionaire he comes across.

  42. Ganderson says:

    PJ O’Rourke wrote an article for the National Lampoon in the Seventies about how to scam your way through college – one of the sections was titled “Your Little-Known Right to be a Negro”.

  43. Hubbub says:

    What does one do when the system is rigged against you? You cheat. When you have a corrupt bureaucracy, what do you become to succeed? Corrupt.

  44. Realist says:

    Rick Singer Advised White Parents to Claim Their Kids Were Nonwhite on College Applications

    It is amazing that a white parent would dishonour their ethnicity to get a child into a college for a degree in a useless study.

  45. @Lot

    On average, Afrikaners have at least 6% non-European ancestry. Apartheid rules explicitly permitted legally-defined whites to have up to 5% non-European ancestry. This was surely a lower bound on estimates.

    English-speaking whites have less non-European ancestry, not least, because they are more recent arrivals.

    SA Jews, probably 90% Litvaks, would have no Bantu ancestry.

  46. @Jack D

    Look, I hear ya, but the Klappers were nice to me personally, so I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s a personal loyalty thing. I certainly don’t blame you for thinking otherwise.

    I am however obliged to correct a number of factually incorrect assertions in your post:

    1. Only some of Singer’s kids got extra time on the SAT/ACT. Most did not. Again, most of his clients were honest and ethical.

    2. The Klapper kid went to a public school.

    As for parents spending a lot of money to give their kids a leg up in life – what’s your alternative? Raise every kid in an enormous, Soviet-style collective barracks? Indeed, one of the primary reasons why people work hard in life, is to be able to give their kids some advantages. Take their ability to do so away, and we will become a less productive, less innovative nation.

    As Steve has recently pointed out, if we incentivize “adversity” – by, for instance, giving every kid an “adversity score,” as the College Board proposes to do – then we’re going to get more irresponsible parenting, fewer hard workers, etc. I’m not saying the system is not highly unfair and unequal, but we *might not* want to encourage people to become desperate welfare moms while punishing the successful.

    In any event, the Silicon Valley elite is fundamentally a cognitive elite. And there is regression to the mean. It is not *entirely* a hereditary caste system. There are, as I have seen, a lot of dumb rich kids out there, which is why these bourgeois parents are so neurotic and desperate.

    The way I look at it, if IQ is the most reliable indicator of the most important life outcomes, then these parents can blow as much money as they want on prep schools (which don’t correlate with future earnings, when you control for other relevant factors) and quack learning disability shrinks, and it’s not going to change things.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  47. @Reg Cæsar

    As with the Somali nomads who descended on Lewiston, the scandal is not that he did this. It is that he was able to do this.

    They will continue to descend using the advantages of E1b1b visa.

    President-in-Law Kushner wants you to keep calm and think of these beautiful and ancient Kushitic -nomadic people as a well-tanned Irish:

    How hard is that?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  48. @Wilkey

    You don’t need to lie. The standard is maybe 1/1024th and/or family stories. Then again since identity is simply a matter of personal autonomy we should be able to choose whichever ethnicity we like.

    My pronouns are (the royal) we/us, my ethnicity Ibero-Numenorian.

  49. ATBOTL says:
    @Wilkey

    Conservatives stopped talking about AA a long time ago. When they mentioned it in the last fifteen years, it was only to complain that AA was bad for non-whites.

  50. @Anon

    The system is fraudulent, and if you get deep enough into it they’ll even give you their rationalizations for making it so. The most honorable course is not to play at all, but if you must play this game you’re a sucker if you play it entirely straight. The people running it are not.

    Is drawing a foul with a head-fake immoral? Bluffing with a four-outer? Diversionary tactics?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  51. Jack D says:
    @Jack D

    PS, even WITH extra time and WITH the $15K bribed proctor fixing some of his wrong answers, young genius Klapper got a big whopping 30 (equivalent to a 1400 SAT) on his ACT. I’m sure that Singer didn’t want him any higher because he had probably gotten say a 24 the last time he took it and jumping from a 24 to a 36 might have been a red flag to the ACT folks.

    Now once upon a time, a 1400 was a pretty damn good score and might have gotten you into some lesser Ivies, but not anymore. Even at USC, a 1400 is an average score nowadays. Average scores are not what people of privilege (e.g. rich Jewish kids from Malibu) should be aiming for. Sure the USC SAT averages out to 1400 but that’s composed of whites and Asians with 1500+ and NAMs and athletes with 1300-. Thus Young Klapper had to beef up his case – 1400 is pretty damn good for a black Hispanic Jew such as himself.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. At what point does the brand value of Harvard, Yale, and the other colleges and universities begin to diminish? Someone recently explained to me that once you get into one of these places it’s difficult to flunk out. It’s like when I learned Porsche cars had Volkswagen engines. It ruined the mystique of the vehicles.

    On a personal note, two of dumbest women I ever met were supposedly Yale graduates and Asians. The Asian part I’m one hundred percent certain about.

  53. @Anon

    Can a second-generation Afrikaner identify as African-American?

  54. Flip says:
    @Lot

    The Afrikaners are about 6% non-white but that includes Indian and Indonesian as well as African.

    http://www.razib.com/wordpress/?cat=2879

  55. Bubba says:
    @The Alarmist

    …Native American law professor Elizabeth Warren.

    LOL! And she didn’t pay millions to Rick Singer to buy that title!

  56. @Cortes

    “…my family was originally from the Rift Valley.”

    Well played Sir!

  57. @Anon

    There is a great business opportunity here–open a DNA lab that always manages to find that “one drop of blood” that gives Royalty status.

  58. @Anon

    What about the scholar-documented discovery of extensive white slavery in the Early Settler days before the advent of US constitutional law? With all of the students who can show British and / or Irish descent, whites should have plenty of room to prove justified Adversity Points. Some 47 million descendants of white slaves are citizens of the USA, with many likely paying university tuition. Some descendants of white slaves were likely bumped off of the list for their white privilege, possibly even by immigrant descendants of Black African slave sellers. Accused parents should research their children’s white-slave roots, trying to get enough Reverse Wokeman points to set them free at last!

  59. Big John says:

    I identify as a hispanic, black, lesbian, non binary human. Are they going to take me to court to dispute it?

  60. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    As with the Somali nomads who descended on Lewiston, the scandal is not that he did this. It is that he was able to do this. Or anyone else is.

    An immigrant to the United States from Africa is in fact African-American. Remember Obama? What is the scandal?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Now once upon a time, a 1400 was a pretty damn good score and might have gotten you into some lesser Ivies, but not anymore.

    What changed? Has the scoring changed?

    • Replies: @res
  62. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    It’s not clear that the “false claims of racial minority” were part of the criminal indictments, from the excerpts.

    Indeed. It is not clear the “false claims of racial minority” statues are false. You either have Indian or Hispanic ancestry or you don’t.

  63. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    The system is fraudulent, and if you get deep enough into it they’ll even give you their rationalizations for making it so.

    What is fraudulent about it? What rationalizations do the give?

    The most honorable course is not to play at all, but if you must play this game you’re a sucker if you play it entirely straight. The people running it are not.

    How does one “not play”? What does that even mean?

    Wouldn’t your family, Desiderius, have a truthful and legitimate claim to being American Indian based on your Cherokee ancestry?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  64. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Not if they are Jewish.

    Why don’t Jewish South Africans have 6%?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    , @Flip
    , @Moses
  65. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Cut the bullshit. They are guilty as hell.

    If they immigrated from Africa, they are African. And if their ancestors are Sephardic Jews, aren’t they also Hispanic?

  66. Elizabeth Warren got away with lying about her race .
    Not sure why more whites don’t claim To be Native American. A genetic ancestry report indicates my DNA is 0.2% Native American, which is typical for those of us able to trace our ancestors to colonial times. My daughter inherited the same .2% so I told her she is Native American and might be related to Sacagawea or Pocahontas…laying the groundwork so she will get an edge when she applies to college…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  67. @Jack D

    Jack, Jack, Jack…

    a) As is the case 90% of the time, that was a great comment/rant, and I have no disagreement with the point.

    b) Cletus? Seriously? And they’ve got to win the lottery to pay their bills? Most parents of smart kids have some smarts themselves (we’ve been over that and over that here ;-} ) Smart parents are not the ones who play bad odds on the lottery, or let their finances get that freakin’ bad to begin with.

    Cletus is from 1970’s TV, Jack. Try Tanner, Conner, Tyler, Carlin, etc. The Moms in Iowa can get those same stupid books of kids names that the ones in NY City can, or go on-line to find those silly last-name first names.

    That is all.

    • Replies: @SFG
  68. @Bubba

    And maybe it’s a good thing the “reporters” are completely ignorant of iSteve’s posts on Brazil and race.

    Someone should do posts on language and on immigration– two things os brasileoros have gotten right.

  69. @Cortes

    To his credit, he stated that his family was originally from the East African Rift Valley

    Carleton Coon might have said the same thing– and he had a name to back it up.

  70. @Jack D

    What part of “I’m not really a shvarze but I’m going to check the “I am a shvarze” box didn’t she get?

    Any justification for the box in the first place. I sure don’t see any.

  71. lavoisier says: • Website
    @ben tillman

    Now, that’s something I approve of.

    Absolutely.

    Affirmative action is pure and simple racial preferences. Something that is supposed to be unconstitutional in this land of the free and home of the brave.

    When the law itself is illegal, join in on the dishonesty with a clear conscience!!

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  72. SFG says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think he probably got ‘Cletus’ from the Simpsons, though he’s more of a Southern stereotype.

  73. I suspect tens of thousands of “Latinos”/”Hispanics” do this every year, on a variety of forms, given that (unlike Tribal membership, or even “blackness”) Hispanic/Latino is a very ambiguous, free-flowing ethno-racio-sometimes-linguistic concept that is as close to non-falsifiable as you will get as far as demographics. Working to our advantage is that the Left, as with everything else, has nullified what would otherwise be reasonable standards:

    “But you don’t speak Spanish” = Not all Latino/Hispanics speak Spanish you know…(this one includes conflation where necessary by pointing out that technical the Portuguese-speaking Brazilians are “Latino”

    “You don’t look Latino” = There are plenty of nearly 100 percent European Latin Americans and Hispanics all over the world…there’s even Chinese Latinos ! (true)

    “You don’t really have cultural ties to the Latino culture” = Define “Culture” (this is a freebie that puts the other party on the defensive…like the above [see “You don’t even look Jewish”] )

    “Your parents are not Latino, Hispanic or Immigrant…not even your great-grandparents” = My DNA shows X (the more then better) Iberian and/or Indigenous (the former is all that is necessary)…my family hid their Hispanic heritage due to the racism they knew they would encounter…I am so proud to bring it back and take pride in what they hid out of fear”.

    I’m 25 Iberian and I claim it and to the degree anyone has questioned it (in the ways above), I have responded per the above. It works and there is nothing legally anyone can do to you, because the law has never codified (outside of NA Tribal membership) what constitutes Hispanic (nor even black really). Federal law (OPM) is very broad. Individual scholarships and such, for colleges may vary…but not by much. Certainly for jobs it would be hard for them make any demands for proof of anything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Hail
  74. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prodigal son

    Elizabeth Warren got away with lying about her race .

    Warren didn’t lie. She has the DNA to prove her claim. She also has family lore.

    • Replies: @Moses
    , @Prodigal son
  75. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    I’m 25 Iberian and I claim it and to the degree anyone has questioned it (in the ways above), I have responded per the above.

    What do you mean “25”?

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
  76. @Anon

    Every White from Africa (whichever country) I’ve ever known has had a stock joke about being ‘African American.’

    The unwritten rules only apply when a great majority of people adhere to them. So sure, if you look like Charlize Theron or Rutger Hauer, why not fill out the paperwork? Back in the 90s when I lost a job, I refused to file for unemployment, and even then people thought I was nuts. But five years back when I was unvoluntarily separated, the first thing I did after leaving the building was go home, fire up up the computer and complete the online form.

  77. @Anonymous

    Miscegination took place mostly between the mid 1600s and very early 1800s. Social sanctions were not strong enough to prohibit that completely, owing to the shortage of white females in that period.

    That changed by, say, 1820.

    The ancestors of most SA Jews arrived between the mid 1800s and the first World War.

  78. Flip says:
    @Anonymous

    Why don’t Jewish South Africans have 6%?

    Because the Afrikaners racially mixed during the Dutch colonial days when there weren’t a lot of European women around. The Jews and English immigrated later, presumably more as families as happened in America.

  79. @Anonymous

    What is the scandal?

    The powers that be think it’s in how he answered the question. I say it’s in the asking of it.

    The kid isn’t the guilty one here.

  80. @RonaldB

    I can’t say enough bad things about parents who want their kids in a college that is beyond their abilities.

    I’m not sure its beyond their abilities. Its not as if these kids are going to MIT or Cal Tech and taking a technical major where they’ll quickly sink. Pretty much any college kid can hack USC. Getting in is the hard part, not staying there.

    Some white kid’s parents paying Singer to get their SAT’s from 1300 to 1440 or whatever is supposed to be an outrage, but a black kid with 1,100 being waved in is just fine.

    Though I guess you could argue its beyond the black kid’s abilities as well, which is why schools need all the fake “studies” majors.

    The whole system is corrupt – I’m almost as disappointed in Trump for not draining the academic swamp as I am in his Immivasion surrenders.

  81. @MalePaleStale

    At what point does the brand value of Harvard, Yale, and the other colleges and universities begin to diminish? Someone recently explained to me that once you get into one of these places it’s difficult to flunk out. It’s like when I learned Porsche cars had Volkswagen engines. It ruined the mystique of the vehicles.

    Interesting first point. It’s been covered here before, but basically the Ivies function as a proxy IQ test for prospective employers, and as a means for networking opportunities. Conan O’Brien (something like Harvard class of ’84) said in a relatively recent interview that the coursework at the school wasn’t the hard part, it was getting in.

    Oh, and as far as Porsche, et. al., go, yeah, it ruins something to know that a lot of the components they use in them are interchangeable with garden variety automobiles.

  82. Smart parents are not the ones who play bad odds on the lottery, or let their finances get that freakin’ bad to begin with.

    Is there a bigger and more reckless gamble today than university education?

    Cletus

    Oh, the memories!

    Brother Ken was a Dodger in Steve’s childhood, so I’m surprised the Boyers didn’t make it into last week’s baseball brother post. Eldest brother Cloyd also made it to the majors, but only for a few years. The eldest Manning brother didn’t get to the NFL, so those two families break the big brother rule.

    Cloyd got the last laugh, though– he’s still alive at 91.

    The Boyers hit 444 home runs between them, behind the Aarons and DiMaggios, and nobody else. Cloyd was a pitcher, who hit none. But pitcher Wes Ferrell outhomered catcher brother Rick 38-28.

    http://research.sabr.org/journals/baseball-brothers

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  83. Wilkey says:
    @RonaldB

    They could not be politicians running on a conservative platform. Think of Elizabeth “Pocahontas” on stilts. So, what you’re proposing will guarantee no voice for conservatives or alt-right or dissident right in the foreseeable future.

    Eh?

    Of course they could run as conservatives. Elizabeth Warren is vulnerable because she claims to actually believe in affirmative action while abusing it for personal gain. Someone running as a conservative would merely have to say “Of course I lied about my race. I was working to destroy affirmative action.” They would become an edgy hero to to the right.

    Also, the vast majority of people who lie in order to undermine government quotas are never going to run for public office.

  84. njguy73 says:
    @Bubba

    That movie just might be the most prophetic of the ’80s.

  85. njguy73 says:
    @RonaldB

    Any idiot can get into college claiming to someone of another race. It takes a genius to get into college claiming to be a star of a sport you don’t play. Now that’s outside the box.

    I mean, I’d heard of transracialism, but transathleticism?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  86. res says:
    @Anonymous

    What changed? Has the scoring changed?

    In 1995 the SAT was “recentered” (average changed to 500/500). This increased the math scores about 20 points and the verbal scores about 80 points.

    There also appears to have been an unheralded tweak to the SAT scoring in 2017. On average, math scores went up 15-20 points and verbal scores went up 35 points. And it wasn’t even a “recentering.” Both averages went up to around 530. Contrast that with the 1995 recentering which moved scores to an average right around 500.

    The SAT average scores by year graph at https://www.erikthered.com/tutor/sat-act-history.html
    https://www.erikthered.com/tutor/historical-average-SAT-scores-plot.pdf
    make both of those changes in the average clear. The pre-1995 recentering scores are the lowest lines ending in 1995.

    Here is an article looking at recent 1400-1600 scorers (and how much more common that has become):
    https://www.compassprep.com/great-to-good-the-diluted-value-of-high-test-scores/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  87. Moses says:
    @Anonymous

    Why don’t Jewish South Africans have 6%?

    Jews don’t mix with Schvartzes. Everyone knows that.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  88. Moses says:
    @Anonymous

    She also has family lore.

    So do we all. I dare you to marginalize and deny me.

    We’re all Native Americans now.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  89. Moses says:

    Where do half East Asian, half White kids fall on the Pokemon Points scale?

    Maybe if they claim disadvantaged ancestry in one of those minority tribes who wear colorful outfits on their Asian side? That, and claim 2% Native American on the “White” side.

    Yeah yeah, that’s the ticket.

  90. @njguy73

    The idea of getting into USC as a star high school football placekicker when you never even tried it sounds like the premise of a 1980s teen comedy: USC is losing 24-23 to Notre Dame with the ball on the five yard line and 1 second left. But the regular placekicker is hurt: the coach is shoving the resistant second string placekicker onto the field …

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  91. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    That is a lot.

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
  92. @Steve Sailer

    The Toronto Metros were floundering in or near last place until, in a financial crisis, they merged with a local sandlot club of Croatian immigrants.

    They won the NASL championship that season.

    I can just imagine taking that story to Steve’s neighboring studios, and being shown the door.

  93. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    Thank you. Very interesting. Does this mean that for a rough estimate we could subtract 100 points for post-1995 scores and another 50 for scores in 2017 and after?

    Wouldn’t it be unsurprising though if scores had in fact risen significantly independent of “re-centers” and “tweaks”? The talent pool at the top is probably a lot better after 25 additional years of “best and brightest” immigration, population increase, and internationalization of the applicant pool.

    • Replies: @res
  94. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moses

    Her family lore is credible. Her White ancestors were here from the early days of the Republic and, to boot, she is from Oklahoma.

    And now she has the DNA proof to corroborate it.

    • Replies: @res
  95. @Moses

    Jews don’t mix with Schvartzes. Everyone knows that.

    Zoë Kravitz begs to disagree. As does Sid the Science Kid.

    • Replies: @Moses
  96. @Reg Cæsar

    The 1971 Topps card. Nice!

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  97. @bored identity

    Because this country needs more violent, clannish drunks?

  98. Hail says: • Website

    Q. What is “Jewish Diasporic Ethics”?

    A.

    a white Jewish immigrant from South Africa went to the financial aid office, requested the paperwork for an African-American scholarship…….he got a full free ride his senior year

  99. Hail says: • Website
    @Lot

    White South Africans are about 6% black ancestry

    Two corrections:

    (1) For “White South Africans” it is as low as 3.5%. It’s only the Afrikaner ethnic group, with its centuries of presence on the land, that has any kind deep (non-recent), non-European admixture. Today, I think up to 60% of the White population are Afrikaners; they were likely a lower as a share-of-pop. as of the White population peak in 1994, before net emigration began. If Anglophone Whites (40%) have a Non-European % of <1% and Afrikaners have ~6%, that amounts to 3.5%-4.0% in aggregate.

    (2) Mostly not ‘Black’. Of the Afrikaners alone, genetic tests show only ~1% Bantu-Negroid (Congoid) and ~1% Khoisanid (Capoid) "Hottentot;" all other trace ancestries are non-Subsaharan-African, largely the dark-Caucasoids of India (along with, inevitably, some degree Veddid) and some trace, distant East Asian ancestry of various sources, IIRC.

  100. @Anonymous

    25 pct Iberian (known ancestrally to be from Asturias and Galicia). 30 years ago we were just white people (like Northern Italians).

    It qualifies as Hispanic. so would 3 percent.

  101. @Anonymous

    How does one “not play”? What does that even mean?

    Don’t allow your brain to be drained away from the family and community (church, schools, sports leagues, et. al.) that raised you.

    The Brain Drain has actually dramatically slowed thanks to blatant anti-white discrimination. Once the Babe Drain follows then we’ll be cooking with gas. So far parents seem more desperate to get their daughters into a “good” school than their sons. Got to get her married off to the right people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. Moses says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sid the Science Kid? You’re digging deep, friend.

    The exception proves the rule.

    Which group is way, way overrepresented in Hollywood, TV and advertising?

    Show me one, just one, TV or print ad that shows a Schvartze mated with a Jewish woman.

    Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  103. @Anon000

    This commercial is a religious experience.

    What is your religion? Because I think even the Epicureans would kick you out.

  104. Hail says: • Website
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    How surprising would it be if race benefits for “Hispanics” were to become legally restricted to those who can prove Central/South Americanindian ancestry?

    What might the threshold be? Is 25.0%+ Amerind about right?

    Scenario: A marginally-race-benefit-qualifying Mestizo man marries a whiter mestizo woman; the man qualifies for race benefits ($$$) but the wife would not. Due to the mother’s unfortunate racial stock, any children would no longer qualify for race benefits, either, and fall out of the system. But the law is the law. The children’s best hope is marrying a more-Amerind mestizo (or even a full-Amerind Hispanic, if available) for the next generation to re-qualify for race benefits ($$$) again.

    • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
  105. @Desiderius

    Numenorian

    Black or white Numenorian?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  106. @ben tillman

    • Replies: @Hail
  107. Anonymous[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    So far parents seem more desperate to get their daughters into a “good” school than their sons. Got to get her married off to the right people.

    Women going to college is what you refer to as the “Babe Drain”? Are you saying that should not be happening?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  108. Hail says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Note, White man given top spot, and has by far best photo of the three.

    @NewYorkTimes-employee browsers:

    Free idea for long thinkpiece: “Are baseball cards racist?” or possible push-title: “Why have we tolerated racism in baseball cards for so long? Hard questions for sport with history of racism, segregation as recently as 1947.”

  109. res says:
    @Anonymous

    Does this mean that for a rough estimate we could subtract 100 points for post-1995 scores and another 50 for scores in 2017 and after?

    For 1995 that is pretty close. Though the amount does vary across the score range. You can see that if you look at the equivalency tables.
    https://www.greenes.com/html/convert.htm

    I’m less sure about 2017 and after. That was a big change to make with no real discussion that I have found. Will have to see if it continues.

    Wouldn’t it be unsurprising though if scores had in fact risen significantly independent of “re-centers” and “tweaks”? The talent pool at the top is probably a lot better after 25 additional years of “best and brightest” immigration, population increase, and internationalization of the applicant pool.

    Increased Asian proportion has probably increased scores. Increased test taking across the whole population has probably decreased them. Hard to say about general ability level.

    Given that the 1995 recentering was necessary to raise the average back to what it was originally (500 on each test), the answer up to that point is a resounding no to your idea. Since then things aren’t as obvious and at this point so many games seem to be being played that I don’t really trust the year to year comparisons anymore.

  110. res says:
    @Anonymous

    And now she has the DNA proof to corroborate it.

    So do you think 1/256 American Indian (reasonable estimate, e.g. see http://www.unz.com/isteve/senator-warren-said-to-be-0-2-american-indian/ )
    is sufficient to claim to be an American Indian for affirmative action purposes?

    Some more specific questions.

    1. Is there any cutoff? 1/1024, 1e-6, …
    2. Should people at these levels receive the same consideration as someone who is 100% American Indian? Wouldn’t that be unfair to actual tribal Indians?

    P.S. Be careful how you answer. 23andMe cavalierly giving ~0.1-1% African results for many whites (I wonder how many of those are true?) could be a real game changer here.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Anonymous
  111. @Moses

    Sid the Science Kid? You’re digging deep, friend.

    Sid is the product of the Henson clan. Henson grew up as a Christian Scientist in Mississippi and Maryland. His kids seem totally secular. Perhaps they’re taking a dig? Sid’s red-nosed father is Jewish.

    Show me one, just one, TV or print ad that shows a Schvartze mated with a Jewish woman.

    How would I know? I haven’t watched TV in decades, unless you count my kid’s favorite programs the past few years. How Jewish is Thomas the Tank Engine? (How do you circumcise a locomotive?)

    Jewish-black marriages aren’t that uncommon. Speaking of admen, the son of a prominent Jewish ad exec in Minneapolis filed with his Haitian wife a desegregation lawsuit against the Minneapolis schools not all that long ago.

    Fascinating comment on MPRNews.org about this:

    Edison High school has determined that it costs them more in labor to manage the program of who qualifies for free or subsidizes meals than it is for them just to give a free meal to whoever wants one.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Moses
  112. @Anonymous

    Not as a norm. Those with a talent/passion sure. Regular girls without a clear idea of why they want to go shouldn’t be pushed. Same with boys but they’re already so strongly discriminated against many don’t want to go already.

  113. @Reg Cæsar

    Perhaps they’re taking a dig?

    Nah, that show is relentlessly positive. Catchy music. Actually has a white boy whose boyishness is portrayed with affection.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  114. @Desiderius

    Nah, that show is relentlessly positive. Catchy music. Actually has a white boy whose boyishness is portrayed with affection.

    Gerald? He reminds me of the annoying chunky Irish boys always giving you noogies.

    He’s also not white. He’s dark pink, kind of an all-over “wine stain”.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  115. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    When my son was applying to colleges a couple of years ago, I semi-jokingly suggested he write his essays on his [entirely fictitious] struggles as a trans woman. It certainly seems to be in vogue, no “proof” is really required other than maybe joining a club or two, a temporary change of wardrobe and demeanor for an event or two, and it’s something that can’t be easily disproven by digging through every government or medical form we’ve ever filled out with a different race box checked. He didn’t go for it, but I’m still going to float the idea to my other kids when the time comes.

  116. Hail says: • Website
    @res

    FWIW, the raw result for the Elizabeth Warren 23andMe was 0.35%, which mathemetically is even less than 1/256. (One scenario, if that raw-result is right, is one mostly-Amerindian individual eight generations ago, born circa 18th century Q2/Q3; perhaps more likely, it is traces from several older lines, with nothing like a (near-)full Amerindian in her line anywhere since the 17th century.)

    There are, of course, error bars to apply for methodological reasons and due to randomness and nonuniformity of inheritance, but the raw result (0.35%) should be more widely reported than it is.

    How much of her ancestry is colonial? The other thing here is that a 0.35%-Amerind result is very likely less than (certainly no higher than) that of a hypothetical, all-colonial-stock (all-region aggregate) White American’s expected Amerind ancestry, which I think is likely in range of 0.50%.

  117. Moses says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Still waiting for any ad featuring a Schvartze paired with a Jewish woman or Jewish man.

  118. @Hail

    It sounds crazy, but could happen. The problem with that is, it will be fought by Island Latinos (Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans) who often have very little to no Amerind heritage, but if anything, simply white and black heritage (sometimes Arab). It seems for now, the only groups that get to get into quantum blood amounts are tribes, who control their membership anyhow (it’s recognized by the federal government, but not regulated per se, by the feds).

    There is a race to be non-white, thus the push for the MENA category as well. Even though millions of Arabs are white, at least as “white” as Greeks and lower Italians.

  119. @al gore rhythms

    Looks like the genocide of whites will occur slowly over the next 100 years…..mostly due to the falling white birth rate and inter-racial mating patterns.

    2018 had a record low number of births , the first time since 1933 that under 1.9 million whites were born….and white births includes all babies with a white mother. The actual number of white births last year was 1.7 million , the lowest number of white births in America going back the 1880s

  120. Jack D says:
    @Former Singer Employee

    1. Only some of Singer’s kids got extra time on the SAT/ACT. Most did not. Again, most of his clients were honest and ethical.

    Most Italian Americans did not belong to La Cosa Nostra. This does not mean that La Cosa Nostra did not exist.

    2. The Klapper kid went to a public school.

    Sure, public schools in areas with super high cost real estate (which screens out most of the vibrants) can be almost as selective and high pressure as private schools. Plus you save $50k/yr on tuition.

    As for parents spending a lot of money to give their kids a leg up in life – what’s your alternative? Raise every kid in an enormous, Soviet-style collective barracks? Indeed, one of the primary reasons why people work hard in life, is to be able to give their kids some advantages. Take their ability to do so away, and we will become a less productive, less innovative nation.

    Sure, you should try to give your kids every LEGAL advantage. This doesn’t include bribing the SAT proctor to improve your kids answers. “Gaming the system” by , for example, getting your kid extended time, while legal, is, to me at least, morally questionable . In any case it tends to create a sort of arms race and so only confers a temporary advantage – when the system stabilizes again the outcome is less optimal than before. Now every Jonathan and Jessica STILL has the same amount of time (they all have extended time) but their parents are each out $5K for psychological testing.

    In any event, the Silicon Valley elite is fundamentally a cognitive elite. And there is regression to the mean. It is not *entirely* a hereditary caste system. There are, as I have seen, a lot of dumb rich kids out there, which is why these bourgeois parents are so neurotic and desperate.

    Oh, absolutely – these parents are desperate because they want their kids to stay up on top of the economic pyramid but God loves to play jokes on us and gives handsome parents ugly kids, smart parents dumb kids, athletic parents fat kids, and so on, at least some of the time.

    But the reason they are so desperate is that in the new society, it’s “Yale or jail”. Maybe back in the day, Jonny was not that bright but he was personable (regression to the mean always existed) so he’d get a job in sales or in the family business instead of going to law school like his smarter cousins – it wasn’t the end of the world. He’d still have a house and a car and a family, it would just be more modest than Cousin Bill’s. But now, if Jonny doesn’t get into USC, he’s gonna end up with a minimum wage job at Starbucks and live in a rented 1BR and NEVER have a family (or at least that’s what the parents perceive). So the high stakes are what lead to the desperation.

  121. @Reg Cæsar

    No, he’s white. He plays air guitar.

  122. @MalePaleStale

    A Princeton student who was in a West German language school with me in 1980 told me the same thing. “As long as you do the work, you’re o.k.” He was speaking of things like writing social science and humanities term papers.

  123. If every white applicant claimed to be non-white, it would destroy the system overnight, and it is the only method that can destroy it. The system requires that whites be honest.

    AA is illegal, unconstitutional, and a moral outrage. And yet, armies of evil people maintain it. Antiversity professors, staffers, administrators, judges, pols, etc. There are too many to kill, and court cases have failed because of evil and/or corrupt people like Justice Sandra Day O’Connor and the GOP.

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  124. Alden says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’ve boycotted chobani since the 3 black muslim immigrant boys attacked and sexually assaulted a 5 year old White girl. My numerous relatives boycott that brand too.

  125. Alden says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Not O’Connor. It was Griggs vs Duke power 1972 or 3 Chief Justice Brennan may he burn in hell forever and ever amen.

    BTW the constitution is whatever a black robed minion of Satan says it is. That’s how our Montesquieu worshiping founders thought and that’s how they wrote it. Judicial supremacy was established in 1804, Marbury vs Madison.

  126. @Anonymous

    If every American could get affirmative action benefits from “family lore” millions of whites would qualify for Native American Status. Warren claimed to be non-white , which is preposterous. Nobody else in her family claimed to be non-white like she did, because it is obviously untrue. All her grandparents and great grandparents and great great grandparents were white.

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  127. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prodigal son

    If every American could get affirmative action benefits from “family lore” millions of whites would qualify for Native American Status.

    If the family history is credible, there is nothing wrong with citing it.

    Warren claimed to be non-white , which is preposterous. Nobody else in her family claimed to be non-white like she did, because it is obviously untrue. All her grandparents and great grandparents and great great grandparents were whi

    Warren has Indian ancestry. She is of Indian descent. If you wish to discriminate against people with her particular composition of DNA, then advocate that a rule be written that does so. Warren was just stating the facts.

  128. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    1. Is there any cutoff? 1/1024, 1e-6, …

    You tell me. Warren has Indian ancestry. Shouldn’t the burden be on you and others who wish to racially discriminate to come up with a clear rule and articulate publicly what the rule is?

    2. Should people at these levels receive the same consideration as someone who is 100% American Indian? Wouldn’t that be unfair to actual tribal Indians?

    Again, you tell me. What is the rule, and what is your justification for it? Seems to me there is a better case for making the cutoff 100% than for making it 1%.

    And where is the “unfairness” to official federal government “tribes” come in. They’ve been the beneficiary of government favor for over a century. What about fairness to people like Warren with Indian ancestry who weren’t admitted to “membership” in a federal “tribe”? What about the people descended from tribes that haven’t received official federal recogition?

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  129. res says:
    @Anonymous

    Shouldn’t the burden be on you and others who wish to racially discriminate to come up with a clear rule and articulate publicly what the rule is?

    At this point you would not like my preferred rule. It would be for no affirmative action discrimination at all. Is that clear enough? So NO legislated racial discrimination (and to be clear, affirmative action advocates like you are the ones arguing for racial discrimination here).

    I consider this throwing the baby out with the bathwater because I think giving some advantage to people who are substantially descended from historically marginalized groups in the US (i.e. American Indians and slave descended blacks) is a reasonable and desirable thing.

    It is people like you trying to claim 1/256 American Indian descent means someone should be considered the same as a full blooded tribal American Indian who lead me to conclude that people in this country aren’t reasonable enough to accept a sensible nuanced rule.

    Well, that and the apparent belief of many that the benefit conferred should be enough to ensure equality of outcomes (e.g. see disparate impact legislation).

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