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I wouldn’t be surprised if a Democratic Presidential candidate soon announces a new Moonshot Project for the Current Decade: America must spend however many billions (or trillions) it takes to make it technologically possible for same-sex couples to reproduce.

Women have to do all the Emotional Labor, why should they also have to do all the Labor Labor?

Same Sex Fertility Is Who We Are.

As a new John F. Kennedy (Julian Castro?*) will probably say shortly:

First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of having a man have a baby. … But why, some say, a baby? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?

We choose for a man to have a baby.

No, wait … I’ve got a better idea.

We choose for a man to abort his baby!

An undocumented worker man aborting his baby with taxpayer-funded free healthcare!

(I can’t wait to see how this polls with Democratic single women.)

* In case you don’t remember Castro’s riff in the Democratic debate:

CASTRO: Yes, it would. I don’t believe only in reproductive freedom, I believe in reproductive justice.

(APPLAUSE)

And, you know, what that means is that just because a woman — or let’s also not forget someone in the trans community, a trans female, is poor, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the right to exercise that right to choose. And so I absolutely would cover the right to have an abortion.

From Reproductive Freedom to Reproductive Justice to Reproductive Equity … This train is rolling down the track and there’s no stopping it.

 
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  1. Your satire is nice, but it won’t turn into a prediction which has come true anytime soon. It still sounds a bit weird. I praise the Lord above (the Protestant Church Day (huge German event) had prominently featured Vulva painting workshops… – This hints rather at regressive than progressive tendencies in this field. Plus: Biotech is no big economical power as of now: There seems to be no economic steam behind such Gender-transformative ideas.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  2. TGGP says: • Website

    Liberals are already able to accomplish that simply by redefining who is a “man”. Then they blame hospitals for failing to consider that a “man” might be pregnant.
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/20/pregnant-transgender-mans-baby-died-because-nurse-didnt-realize-he-was-in-labor-9613972/

    • Replies: @guest
  3. Why does Rice play Texas?

    The irony of this reference is that at the time JFK made it Rice actually competed well with Texas, splitting their last 10 meetings. Since then, however, the Owls are 2-43-1 against the Longhorns, with the last win coming in 1994, which was the last time they played as SWC members in Houston.

    They will be playing on September 14 in the Texans’ stadium, as Texas will no longer go to Rice Stadium.

  4. tr says: • Website

    America must spend however many billions (or trillions) it takes to make it technologically possible for same-sex couples to reproduce.

    It would be simpler simply to claim that it’s already possible (without evidence—I’ve been seeing such claims for the past twenty years) then, if anybody disputes the claim call them bigots.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  5. @ScarletNumber

    Those profit maximizing bastatds!

  6. I will not feel free until I as a man have the capability, the right, and the freedom to have an abortion.

  7. L Woods says:

    I suppose the outrageous privilege that accrues to women by virtue of their 2.1 childbirths will become a thing of the past if that burden is now divided equally…right?

  8. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    Data point 1: First baby born to woman with uterus transplanted from deceased donor.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/04/health/uterus-transplant-deceased-donor-study/

    Data point 2: Can Uterine Transplants Make It Possible for Trans Women to Give Birth?
    https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2018/12/06/can-uterus-transplants-make-it-possible-trans-women-give-birth

    Data point 3: Chestfeeding: Women who cut off their breasts then have children suddenly discover they had a use for those.
    https://thefederalist.com/2016/09/01/chestfeeding-will-backfire-badly/

    ()()()()()

    Researchers interested in outcomes of children raised in gay and lesbian families, single mother families, and more and more, divorced families, are unable to get their research funded. Online forums where LGBT kids and grown kids seems to indicate there may be some problems. You don’t have a mother. Or a father, depending on the case. The story about how the sperm and egg were obtained and whose womb the fetus developed in can be disturbing to kids, and all the illustrated two-dads and two-moms childrens books can’t overcome this.

    Recently women are just “having ” kids. Because they can. I ran across this in Wikipedia the other day:

    [Lucy] Liu is a single parent by choice. She has a biological son, Rockwell, who was born in 2015 via gestational surrogate. Commenting on choosing the method, she states that it is the right option for her as she was busy working at the time. Since the birth of her son, Liu has been heavily involved in celebrating diversity in modern families. One major campaign she was involved in was the Tylenol’s #HowWeFamily Mother’s Day Campaign.

    What is a gestational surrogate? It’s what is now called a “gestational carrier,” and previously was called a “surrogate mother.” Read Carl Zimmer’s recent book for the unexpected genetic weirdness that can result from a woman carrying a baby that genetically isn’t hers.

    I think public policy should favor children of married hetero parents resulting from a natural sex act. Not that other stuff should be outlawed, but it should be regulated and made more difficult. And I think that, in effect, there should be a guardian ad litem involved to take into account the rights of the as-yet un-conceived child.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  9. @Anon

    The distinguished actress who came to my son’s hotdog party for his baseball team in our backyard was at the time paying another woman to carry her baby. She was in her late 40s so I suppose that was safest, although she certainly looked physically capable. She’s an all around superior human, and her husband was a very good looking younger man, so I am all in favor of them reproducing, even if I figure the surrogate thing is kind of weird, and probably hard on the woman who goes thru labor and then has to give up the baby.

    https://variety.com/2019/legit/reviews/hillary-and-clinton-review-broadway-play-1203192540/

  10. Reproduce – you need not have time to be pregnant! – Such are the words of progress.

  11. guest says:
    @TGGP

    That would only work in situations where somehow the “gay” couple were composed of a biological male and a biological female. The rest want the same opportunity.

    By the way, imagine the outrage of a nurse guessed a “man” might be pregnant and inquired whether “he” had copulated with a man-man 9 months or so ago.

  12. guest says:

    Can we give lesbos parthenogenesis? Then each spouse can have a clone, and they can raise them together.

  13. @tr

    It would be simpler simply to claim that it’s already possible (without evidence—I’ve been seeing such claims for the past twenty years) then, if anybody disputes the claim call them bigots.

    Eastern European joke during Warsaw pace era:

    Q: How to you find a white elephant?
    A: Catch a grey elephant, and beat him until he admits he is white.

    Counterinsurgency

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @SFG
  14. Aylokaa says:

    Actually, there are several teams of scientists already working hard on in vitro gametogenesis (IVG). It’s already been done in mice, and in around 20 years it will probably be common (if expensive). I expect large numbers of same-sex and infertile hetero couples will be willing to pay through the nose for it. https://www.wired.com/story/reverse-infertility/

  15. SFG says:

    I still remember a MAD article in the 1980s making fun of Reagan–it was a test to be a supporter. One of the questions was ‘do you oppose abortions for homosexuals’?

    In the old days, sci-fi used to come true, now it’s satire. Clown world, indeed.

  16. Sean says:

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/should-sex-change-operations-also-be-banned/
    Netanyahu’s new minister of education, Rafi Peretz. Peretz is a practicing Jew as well as a rabbi who takes his religion seriously. No sooner was he appointed to his post then he suggested that gays might want to undergo conversion treatment and benefit from it.

    Any number of psychiatrists, psychologists, sociologists, educationalists and other learned worms crawled out of the woodworks … Peretz was a racist. He was a bigot. He was a “dark” figure emerging out of the equally “dark” middle ages. He was unfit to hold any public post, let alone one in which he was in charge of educating hundreds of thousands of young people. He should be denounced. He should be fired. He should be ostracized. He should, if the appropriate legal paragraph could be found (thankfully, as of the present, it could not) be put on trial and convicted and punished.

    As to conversion treatment, it was carried out by quacks as if there were no quacks in other fields where consults are involved, from housing agents to e(con)omics. It was useless (as if no other forms of psychological treatment were). It was unscientific (as if any kind of psychological treatment is or can be “scientific”). It might make those who tried it develop all kinds of psychological problems (as if it were not psychological problems that made people turn to the treatment in the first place). The practice should be prohibited (as, in quite a few countries and states, it is), and those who engage in it, if they did so on a professional basis, disqualified.

    All this, in the name of choice, equality, openness, toleration, and similar concepts held sacred by the politically correct crowd both in Israel and a great many other countries. All this, at least partly in order to prevent people from developing doubts and ceasing to support the Gay Rights Movement. And all this makes me ask: If this kind of conversion, voluntarily undertaken of course, is banned, shouldn’t the same apply to the much more problematic, much more dangerous, sex change operations as well?

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  17. Dtbb says:

    That is my go to line now. “How can you support a party that wants to give free abortions to men?” When I inevitably have to explain, further discourse is stifled.

  18. Alice says:

    what’s amazing to me is feminists can’t think two steps ahead.

    the demand for childbearing equality is a demand to make the female obsolete, not the male. if men can already displace women in female sports, imagine how men can displace women once they can give birth. if so, what special attributes does a woman have to keep her from unpleasant or dangerous work, warfare, etc.? Once feminists win the battle to prove they don’t need to be the nurturer, they will be unnecessary.

    It won’t be the Handmaid’s tale after all!

    • Replies: @L Woods
  19. @Steve Sailer

    The distinguished actress who came to my son’s hotdog party for his baseball team in our backyard was at the time paying another woman to carry her baby. She was in her late 40s so I suppose that was safest, although she certainly looked physically capable.

    Attention Steve Sailer:

    That is perhaps too much information of a celebrity tidbit kind for the sake of discretion and good manners.

    Your hints are similar to your claim to be 6 feet 4 and 1/8 of an inch tall. I imagine that you are about 6 foot 3 and 3/4 inches tall. John Lithgow is tall too. Ann Coulter says she is 5 feet 9 inches tall when I always thought she was 6 feet tall. Let’s say Ann Coulter is 5 feet 8 and 1/2 inches tall, I could be taller than her. I am taller and better built than Viggo Mortensen and that’s all I care about.

    Metcalf don’t impress me much, but I am sure she has made many, many millions from the corporate media. I propose completely and totally destroying the anti-White corporate media, so that might include legal financial liquidations via tax changes to all those who have benefited from corporate media. Matt Lauer and Laurie Metcalfe and many of the others who have benefited from the anti-White corporate media have been paid great amounts of money to be involved in the anti-White propaganda emanating from the corporate media.

    Radical anti-White methods have been used for many, many decades to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA, and that means that radical methods will have to be used to reverse those anti-White attacks.

    Laurie Metcalf’s ancestry is similar to Amber Heard’s, but Metcalf is an ugly frump and Amber Heard is beautiful. To be honest, if Metcalf shared some of my political views, I would say that bitch is beautiful too.

    Attention Steve Sailer:

    Please moderate my many and multiple Raj Chetty comments on through. It’s important that readers get that Chetty is just a lantern holder stooge whore celebrity academic for the evil globalizer plutocrats in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire, and that is what I tried to relay to the readers. God bless Sam Francis, because whether it is the Saxon ruling class in England in 1066, or the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire in 2019, the whole key to politics is the proper understanding of the machinations of ruling classes.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
  20. CCZ says:

    Surrogacy, uterine transplants, “male” pregnancy, trannyism are “gestational communism”:

    Sophie Lewis’s recently published “Full Surrogacy Now, Feminism Against Family” dismisses the belief that parents have special emotional ties to their biological offspring and argues that the biological family should be replaced by a world of “gestational communism.”

    She also dismisses the importance of genetics, asserting that parents’ genes are “scrambled” in their newborn child. … She “seeks to land a blow against bourgeois society’s voracious appetite for private, legitimate babies.”

    Her plan to abolish the biological family requires abolishing gender: “Some readers will probably have noticed by now that the terms “women” and “female” appear only infrequently in this text. The reason for that is simple: I feel there’s no call for them. The formulation “pregnant people” is just as good as the alternative “pregnant women, men, and non-binary people,” and it is more precise than “expectant mothers” or “pregnant women.” Precision is important, I firmly believe, because there can be no utopian thought on reproduction that does not involve uncoupling gestation from the gender binary.”

    https://thebrooklyninstitute.com/people/sophie-lewis/

    https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/07/a-world-without-mothers

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  21. Anon7 says:

    I thought the Green New Deal idea fit the bill. It’s better for the Left because they can make endless demands on ordinary people to change their lives. It also begins by guilt-tripping the European majority, forcing them to admit culpability for planetary devastation.

    Once you get people moving and changing, you can point them in any direction you want.

    They’re already working on ovaries for men, that’s a gimme putt for this crowd.

  22. Julian Castro is the Mestizo politician whore front stooge for the shady globalizer elements in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Cory Booker is the Mulatto politician whore front stooge for the shady globalizer elements in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    I just saw Julian Castro at a presidential primary town hall in New Hampshire. Julian Castro can be cracked like an egg on mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and American national identity and questions about economic patriotism and multicultural mayhem.

    The crowd was baby boomer White Christian with a mixture of baby boomer Jew Bolsheviks scattered in there.

    The crowd at Julian Castro’s presidential primary town hall event cheered on Castro’s mass immigration extremism and the crowd was licking its chops about winning the 38 Electoral College votes of TEXAS!

    On display at the Julian Castro presidential primary town hall was the crocodile tears of the Democrat Party for the immigrant foreigners and the Bolshevik joy of bashing the brains out of the Republican Party by using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration to demographically and electorally destroy the Republican Party. It was amazing to see. It was like the presidential primary townhall crowd was channeling the Bolshevik Jew spirit energy of Ron Brownstein and the like.

  23. Hypocrites! Reproductive justice doesn’t appeal to you though a system that calculates your social credit likely does. In actuality we are working towards socialist and fascist totalitarianism simultaneously. I believe paradoxically high productivity in the workplace that leaves workers plenty of free time drives this meddlesome meddling. Once robots replace humans, the progress towards totalitarianism will accelerate. Just think of all those people recording transgressive behavior as defined by the right and the left. All you busybodies can pass out demerits 24/7 with all those hours that’d otherwise be empty.

  24. @Dieter Kief

    Vulva painting workshops

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. @Steve Sailer

    Sorry, but having a surrogate birth “your” child in your late 40’s is more than weird, it’s sick. If you wait too long to have your own children, you should be adopting. Any woman who rents out her womb is in a bad place in life, and no one that you would want to be carrying precious cargo. Where did the sperm come from? The husband? Maybe 50/50. How are your 45 year old eggs? You sure you want to use them?

    Way too many kids waiting to be adopted to be pushing this stuff.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  26. @CCZ

    This is what I see in the term “reproductive justice”. If I can’t have a baby and be considered normal, then nobody can.

  27. Ibound1 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    In the future, no wealthy woman shall carry her own child for 9 months. Not when there are poorer women desperate to do it. Having someone carry your child will be like having a foreign nanny. It’s what the wealthy will do. Wealthy women won’t put that strain on their bodies. What starts in Hollywood never stays there. I suppose if it’s a way for the more intelligent to have children, then there is some plus to it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  28. There is a much bigger issue that the Democrats (Republicans are brain dead on this issue unless it is spending more on the VA which is overwhelmingly male) are dancing around which is if they are in favor of absolute equality, why do we spend so much more money on women’s health care than men’s and why is it that they only time they address spending resources on men it is only for Trans-freaks getting abortions and gay men’s health? Of the $1.8 trillion we spend on health care each year, we are spending 30-40% more on women throughout all stages of their lives; and not just when they are pregnant. Men have 5 year shorter life expectancy and they suffer far worse outcomes in almost every medical category including tangential ones such as things like homelessness and imprisonment which many times can be linked to poor mental health. The same is true for workplace injuries and deaths.

    I am pro-choice but I am personally so sick of hearing about women’s private parts every election cycle that I could puke. Yes, we all know that Hillary, Kamala, Lizzy, Klobuchar, and baby fat Gillibrand have vags (yuck) and titties and that they need extra legal and financial protection or to abort their children in the fourth trimester. And yes, because of it we always need SJW on the Supreme Court and more pink ribbons. I don’t see any party doing anything about this in the near future but I am waiting for a lawsuit to make its way to the Supreme Court on this. One could hope.

  29. Input:FLEXIBLE LABOR MARKETS

    Output:FLEXIBLE IDENTITIES

    Think about it

  30. Fun says:

    That idea requires serious technological advancement and basic research. Way too forward-looking for our current crop of pols. They’re more interested in dogma, counting how many non-existent klansmen can fit on the head of a pin, and so on.

  31. L Woods says:
    @Alice

    They’ll still have their sexual power, which paradoxically is augmented by not having to actually give birth (they keep their figures longer). It’ll probably only serve to make them even more egregiously over aggrandized than they currently are. It would certainly be the greatest stroke of karma in history if it went the other way though.

  32. Ibound1 says:
    @Sean

    Peretz might be denounced but apparently he is still the Education Minister (according to Wiki). He also has 12 children according to the same source. Peretz is a hell of a lot healthier human being than the freaks we have discussing sexuality. 300 pound men demanding Brazilian bikini waxes in “Human Rights” tribunals because they feel they are women.

  33. @Ibound1

    I suppose if it’s a way for the more intelligent to have children, then there is some plus to it.

    Yeah, the offspring will be smart enough to figure out how evil it all is. The Alana Newman effect.

    https://anonymousus.org

    If course, the opposite also happens, eg, Zach Wahls. Who inherited his donor’s “throw away the vial” mentality.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  34. SFG says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Another one from that era:

    Guy walks out into the street and sees everyone running away.

    “Where are you going?” he asks.

    “Run away!” they say. “They are shooting elephants!”

    “So why do you care?”

    “First they shoot you, then they check to see if you are an elephant!”

    Communism was bad…

  35. Ibound1 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I assume the wealthy women who will get serfs to carry their children to term will use their own eggs and the sperm of their real husbands. They simply won’t be bothered to carry a child to term (too much work, too much effect on the body) – they will pay fertilized egg carriers to do that. I see homes of these fertilized egg carriers – eating and sleeping well, no alcohol – carrying the babies of the wealthy to term. Then foreign nannies will take over. This is solely a result of the grotesque wealth discrepancies our financial and immigration policies are producing. We will see what that in turn produces.

  36. Cortes says:

    To think I was considering buying a paperback of “Brave New World” in the classy secondhand bookshop this afternoon…

    Dear oh dear oh dear.

  37. Nachum says:

    Of course, being good Democrats, they don’t want men to have babies. They want men to have abortions. They’ll do all the science or whatever to get them pregnant just so they can abort. Makes perfect sense!

  38. @Charles Pewitt

    It was the Norman ruling class after dustup at Hastings – btw they are still doing rather well 900 hundred years later.

  39. @ScarletNumber

    Are they going to have the roof open? That would be really hilarious if people bought tickets thinking it was going to be closed roof and they get there and it’s 96 degrees.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  40. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    We don’t know all of what the genetic weirdness from this will do to the herd long term.
    But what we do know should alarm us.

  41. BB753 says:

    We’re not going to the moon anymore but we won’t stop until we get the likes of Kaitlyn Jenner pregnant and free to make a choice!

  42. The question is: could this help white birthrates?

  43. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That’s a Volvo, not a Vulva.

    But in Overland Park, same difference, at least for size.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  44. @stillCARealist

    Way too many kids waiting to be adopted to be pushing this stuff.

    How many children have you adopted?

  45. @simple_pseudonymic_handle

    I would imagine it’s in the contract between the two schools. Texas is a public university, so if you were so inclined you could file a request for it. Or you could call Rice and just ask.

  46. @Steve Sailer

    She’s an all around superior human, and her husband was a very good looking younger man, so I am all in favor of them reproducing, …

    I share your eugenic sentiments and I’m sure their daughter is glad to be alive.

    But just from the realities here–too old to have more kids, much younger man (unnatural) and sure ‘nough they aren’t still together to raise this child–i’d say nature had the better argument.

    People ought to organize their lives to do this most important human activity. If they can’t/won’t, we’re better off if they don’t.

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