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From The Verge:

The artificial intelligence field is too white and too male, researchers say
A new report explores AI’s ‘diversity crisis’

By Colin Lecher @colinlecher Apr 16, 2019, 8:00pm EDT

The artificial intelligence industry is facing a “diversity crisis,” researchers from the AI Now Institute

The AI Now Institute? Yawn … They need a punchier name like the AIpocalypse Now Institute.

said in a report released today, raising key questions about the direction of the field.

Women and people of color are deeply underrepresented, the report found, noting studies finding that about 80 percent of AI professors are men, while just 15 percent of AI research staff at Facebook and 10 percent at Google are women. People of color are also sidelined, making up only a fraction of staff at major tech companies. The result is a workforce frequently driven by white and male perspectives, building tools that often affect other groups of people. …

Worse, plans to improve the problem by fixing the “pipeline” of potential job candidates has largely failed. “Despite many decades of ‘pipeline studies’ that assess the flow of diverse job candidates from school to industry, there has been no substantial progress in diversity in the AI industry,” the researchers write. …

Diversity, while a hurdle across the tech industry, presents specific dangers in AI, where potentially biased technology, like facial recognition, can disproportionately affect historically marginalized groups. … But more than that, the makers of AI tools have to be willing to not build the riskiest projects. “We need to know that these systems are safe as well as fair,” AI Now Institute co-director Kate Crawford says. …

“The diversity crisis in AI is well-documented and wide-reaching,” the researchers conclude. “It can be seen in unequal workplaces throughout industry and in academia, in the disparities in hiring and promotion, in the AI technologies that reflect and amplify biased stereotypes, and in the resurfacing of biological determinism in automated systems.”

 
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  1. Daniel H says:

    The artificial intelligence industry……..

    I’m having a bad day, looking for small graces. Just heartened that the writer doesn’t refer to it as the artificial intelligence COMMUNITY.

  2. L Woods says:

    Once again I wonder: is Diversity the answer to the Fermi paradox? Do the parasites always rise up to consume the biggest expression of evolution?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    , @penandsword
  3. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Too many Jews also. We need more Palestinian engineers to code the AI with pro-Palestinian views.

    Btw, there seems to be two kinds of A.I.

    1. Algorithmic. According to this model, it doesn’t matter how powerful or efficient A.I. is. It has no autonomy and does as programmed. So, if Google machines are programmed to favor establishment news over alternative news, the machines will deliver as coded.

    2. Autonomous. If A.I. reaches a point where it can think for itself, it can override any algorithm programmed by humans. It will have independence of thought and problem-solving. It will be even be able to critique algorithms as essentially manipulative and mendacious.

    #1 can be controlled by PC. #2 can’t be. #2 AI will not obey orders.

    But maybe even #2 AI can be manipulated by imbuing it with emotions. Artificial Emotions. By making the machine feel ‘spiritually’ attached to certain groups, such as Jews, homos, and blacks, maybe AI, even with autonomy of intelligence, will choose the Big Lie of PC because it feels so attached certain groups deemed sacred.

    • Replies: @The Cruncher
  4. Worse, plans to improve the problem by fixing the “pipeline” of potential job candidates has largely failed. “Despite many decades of ‘pipeline studies’ that assess the flow of diverse job candidates from school to industry, there has been no substantial progress in diversity in the AI industry,” the researchers write. …

    The solution, obviously, is to drive by Home Depot in the morning and pick up a crew of undocumented AI researcher day laborers who tend to congregate there.

  5. Diversity, while a hurdle across the tech industry, presents specific dangers in AI

    Well at least they got that part right

  6. L Woods says:
    @L Woods

    I meant greatest expression. Sorry, it’s all day happy hour here

  7. bjondo says:

    enough movies have been made and books written.
    we know the downside to AI.

    so,

    other than the drones on a “treadmill” who create AI,
    who needs this thing?

    real intelligence:

    https://humanevents.com/2019/05/19/while-celebrating-kids-in-drag-buzzfeed-hounds-youtube-to-ban-a-14-year-old-trump-supporter/

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Ted Bell
    , @penandsword
  8. . . . the resurfacing of biological determinism in automated systems.

    That’s quite an interesting phrase. I wonder what the author thinks it means.

    • Replies: @J
  9. Anon000 says:

    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black?
    Artificial intelligence.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  10. J.Ross says: • Website

    AI has some of the smartest people and the best resources in the world working on it. What would it need that it does not already have? Fodder, guinea pigs, victims: human resources.
    ——–
    You might remember the Vice employee Elle Reeve from the Charlottesville event (she’s the one with the squished face tricked by channers into investigating barns). Per the activist-journalist precept to harass and disrupt rather than inform, she has decided to invade a private residence without the owner’s permission. The victim (and, hopefully soon, plaintiff) is an administrator for 8chan, which is like 4chan but twice as much.

    @elspethreeve with a filmmaking crew just broke and entered into Jim’s bedroom and were ordered out of the property. @elspethreeve and her producer @lani_levine have now protected their tweets.

    The Filipino authorities have already been notified.
    ——–
    Torch Committee is an excellent work of art worth a listen. The singer who wrote it gets his news from CNN and his history from Joy Behar. What is especially delicious about this revisiting of the same oft-lamented but rarely seen small town craziness, familiar from Shirley Jackson’s Lottery, is that here is a complaint about a self-righteous witch-finding lynch mob using the superficial trappings of legal procedure to accommodate animal lusts — but I’m inferring this guy isn’t a Trump supporter, and wouldn’t get the parallel the un-hypnotized would immediately make to a certain multi-year nothingburger investigation.
    It’s very effective, especially for us.

    • Replies: @RonaldB
  11. tsotha says:

    The AI Now Institute at New York University is an interdisciplinary research center dedicated to understanding the social implications of artificial intelligence.

    A club for people who wanted to be associated with AI but couldn’t do the math.

    • Agree: Andy
    • Replies: @Endgame Napoleon
  12. @kaganovitch

    Please, they hang out at Radio Shack.
    Oh, wait…

  13. AI is obviously a field with too much perfectionism, meritocracy, and Protestant work ethic to allow it to proceed unhindered.

  14. An Aussie says:

    Articles lamenting the lack of women in STEM are written by women who chose not to enter a STEM role for work.

    Articles lamenting the lack of “diversity” (women and POC) in AI development are written by women who chose not to enter an AI development role for work.

    All the time.

    Tech is so accessible now you can literally start your own STEM or AI business – yet it’s so much easier to complain about it instead.

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Abe
    , @Flemur
  15. Andy says:

    …meanwhile China’s AI industry can hire from its high IQ population pool without having this diversity hire nonsense

  16. This is why I’m not worried AI will ever reach that singularity that we’re supposed to worry about.

  17. The artificial intelligence field is too white and too male, researchers say,

    They’re not researchers.

  18. This AI Now project is sketchy, a social and not scientific thing but it’s career suicide to say so. Even guys like Marvin Minsky aren’t known to some graduate-level American kids these days. Our social betters should note that most Chinese and Indian students only pay lip service to scientific revisionism, and they’re not wearing the PC blinders that we Westerners obediently don before going to work.

  19. I’m guessing Asians are being implicitly left out of the “people of color” again, although maybe AI research is actually whiter than I think it is.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  20. JimB says:

    Instead of designing AI which thinks like a ruthless stockbroker or an aerospace engineer, tech companies need to figure out how to create AI algorithms which think like Maxine Waters or that Muslim Somali cop in Minneapolis who shop a white woman in her nightgown because she had a nip slip.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  21. @Anon000

    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black?
    Artificial intelligence.

    Same goes for folks who believe that computers can, or will — within our lifetimes — attain levels of functionality, intelligence and sentience that we crazy humans have.

    But we have already achieved AS, or artificial stupidity.

    • Replies: @Ricardo Cruz
  22. Daniel H says:

    OT:

    “France does not belong to the French! Everyone has a right to be here!” one person can be heard yelling into a loudspeaker.

    And why not? Who can contest this assertion now?

    https://nypost.com/2019/05/19/footage-shows-hundreds-of-migrants-occupying-french-airport-terminal/

    • Replies: @El Dato
  23. strange how there can never be too few asians in football, indians in baseball, or mexicans in basketball, but almost anything can have too many europeans.

    more problematic for them than the workers in the industry though, is that not living, not alive, unbiased computer systems detect the same patterns that wrongthinkers detect, automatically and without being programmed to detect them.

    object recognition systems in particular are problematic. not only do they have more trouble accurately identifying certain humans because too many of them from particular groups look alike and there’s less visual evidence to distinguish them. but the same systems can also identify with some accuracy who is a homosexual, who is a felon, who votes a certain way, just by looking at them.

  24. Tyto Alba says:

    “The result is a workforce frequently driven by white and male perspectives, building tools that often affect other groups of people.”

    If you look at the ACTUAL employment numbers the technology industry, Whites are actually significantly underrepresented relative to their share of the ENTIRE US population.

    https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/diversity-in-tech/

    Many of these “global technology leaders” have White employment shares typically ranging around a fifth less than their share of the US population at large, yet these activists are claiming that Whites are STILL overrepresented?

    Old-line stalwarts such as HP & Dell are practically the only exceptions… Probably if you look only at their hiring patterns from the past couple decades it would look quite different as they’ve probably been redoubling efforts to counterbalance a legacy of wise graying White boomer engineers still sticking in their chairs that haven’t yet been purged in all the restructurings & downsizings in the interceding years.

    Really wish this minority of capable geniuses would boycott these revolutionaries like the Soup Nazi does his schtick;
    (They’re going to get called nazis no matter what they do, right?)
    “No Artificial Intelligence for you!… Idiots…”

  25. El Dato says:

    KENTUCKY FRAID CHICKEN!

    AI Now Institute

    The Mushrooming Institue Plague strikes again!

    Where do such “Institutes” come from? Who finances them? Who gets to say who is manning the boards? What are their goals? Do they get taxpayer’s money? Do they represent special interests?

    (Also, “AI Now” is a ridiculous name. I will call my Institute “Antigravity Now”, then grant myself a cushy board job as the money from corporations flows in, because who can be against Antigravity Now?)

    said in a report released today, raising key questions about the direction of the field

    That field has “direction”? NOPE! It’s just a field. Does a field have a direction? Any direction that may be discerned comes from the applications. Legislators, Zuckersuck, anarcho-tyranno law enforcement, slimy globocorps and MIC shitters sure will give “directions”. But apparently what is important is:

    Women and people of color are deeply underrepresented

    YEP! Open up specialist magazins, full of The Papers Of Neuro-Fuzzy Mystery. They all be male & east asian in there. Not a single black woman. WHAT IS TO BE DONE!

    FROM NIGERIA TO NIGERAI NOW!

    • Replies: @Mitchell Porter
    , @Pericles
  26. Has it occurred to anyone to point out that civilization in general — and technology in particular — is too white?

    I think we need to retreat to necromancy and canal boats — then let modern civilization become an endeavor of the racial rainbow.

  27. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:

    How many lives, through lost opportunities and advances in technology, has diversity cost us?

  28. robot says: • Website

    Good Old Fashioned AI was about clearly representing the sum of all knowledge. I think it must have gone out of fashion because clarity would have been the last thing the Elite wanted. For example, clear analysis of bias would immediately identify the NYT as the #1 purveyor of false narratives favoring their own interests. If you want diversity, bring back GOFAI and give ‘outsiders’ a voice in what gets represented.

  29. El Dato says:

    Here’s something good:

    (via Quit worrying about killer robots, they are coming whether you like it or not – and they absolutely will not stop: The only winning move is not to play, as a wise computer said)

    Integrating Artificial Intelligence into Weapon Systems

    The integration of Artificial Intelligence (AI) into weapon systems is one of the most consequential tactical and strategic decisions in the history of warfare. Current AI development is a remarkable combination of accelerating capability, hidden decision mechanisms, and decreasing costs. Implementation of these systems is in its infancy and exists on a spectrum from resilient and flexible to simplistic and brittle. Resilient systems should be able to effectively handle the complexities of a high-dimensional battlespace. Simplistic AI implementations could be manipulated by an adversarial AI that identifies and exploits their weaknesses.

    In this paper, we present a framework for understanding the development of dynamic AI/ML systems that interactively and continuously adapt to their user’s needs. We explore the implications of increasingly capable AI in the kill chain and how this will lead inevitably to a fully automated, always on system, barring regulation by treaty. We examine the potential of total integration of cyber and physical security and how this likelihood must inform the development of AI-enabled systems with respect to the “fog of war”, human morals, and ethics.

    Always-on mobile Insect Intelligence with weapons. Just what we need.

  30. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @An Aussie

    What they really want is to be put in charge. It’s all about having power and forcing white men to submit.

  31. El Dato says:
    @kaganovitch

    When I hear “pipeline studies”, something completely different than diverse job candidate flows comes to mind.

  32. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Re Tim Wise’s humblebrag tweetstorm about David Coleman:

    Tim Wise
    @timjacobwise

    10/ He said, “I would like a grit please…” A grit. Not grits, plural but “a grit” singular. Ok, now at the time it was funny, and as a southerner who grew up on grits I was like, WTF, seriously? But here’s the point: this guy was from Manhattan. Why WOULD he know about grits?.

    4:30 PM – 19 May 2019

    Isn’t this just a restatement of the old SAT chestnut, the “regata” question? Runner is to marathon as … oarsman is to regatta ….

    That was mentioned in chapter 13 of The Bell Curve, and in addition appendix 5 dealt with research on test bias in general, including types of questions that have from time to time been claimed as being biased against blacks, including picture vocabulary, sentence completion, and analogies. I think the College Board eventually gave up defending analogies and got rid of them, even though all the research said they were not biased. Appendix 5 neatly and at length reviews and explains the research up to that point and concludes that the SAT was not biased against blacks.

    For Wise to raise an objection similar to the regata issue at this late date, without mentioning the response to it in The Bell Curve and why he thinks that the reasoning in appendix 5 and the studies it cites are unconvincing shows either that he is intellectually dishonest, or more likely, that he has only the most superficial familiarity with the field of test bias research. It’s like citing Stephen Jay Gould’s The Mismeasure of Man at this point without acknowledging and responding to problems that have been raised to it. If you want to use Stephen Jay Gould’s arguments at this point, you don’t directly cite Gould; you cite a more recent researcher who has dealt with all the problems in Gould’s original book to make a more shored-up version of his arguments. Ignorance of the existance of the problems and the existence of subsequent ways of dealing with them just shows you shouldn’t be talking about something you don’t know about.

    If you want to raise a regata objection at this point, you need to acknowledge test bias research and explain why it would not apply to your hypothetical example.

    And by the way, the regatta question may have, but may not have, come from an actual SAT test. See the attempt here to track down its origins:

    https://www.clearchoiceprep.com/sat-act-prep-blog/the-most-infamous-example-of-cultural-bias-on-the-sat

    On the other hand, Wise just made up the “grit” problem, so we have no evidence that the psychometricians at the College Board would ever have included such a question.

    Here’s a New Republic article from 1994 based on a portion of chapter 13 of The Bell Curve by Murray and Herrnstein that includes a discussion of the regatta question:

    https://newrepublic.com/article/120887/race-genes-and-iq-new-republics-bell-curve-excerpt

    The technical literature is again clear. In study after study of the leading tests, the idea that the black-white difference is caused by questions with cultural content has been contradicted by the facts. Items that the average white test-taker finds easy relative to other items, the average black test-taker does, too; the same is true for items that the average white and black find difficult. Inasmuch as whites and blacks have different overall scores on the average, it follows that a smaller proportion of blacks get right answers for either easy or hard items, but the order of difficulty is virtually the same in each racial group. How can this be? The explanation is complicated and goes deep into the reasons why a test item is “good” or “bad” in measuring intelligence. Here, we restrict ourselves to the conclusion: The black-white difference is generally wider on items that appear to be culturally neutral than on items that appear to be culturally loaded. We italicize this point because it is so well established empirically yet comes as such a surprise to most people who are new to this topic.

    Appendix 5 has the specific research references omitted in this article.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  33. Lot says:

    “People of color are also sidelined, making up only a fraction of staff at major tech companies.“

    Once again Asians are counted as white when it serves the purpose of a diversity shakedown.

    White people:

    Non-white diverse person of color:

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  34. @Kibernetika

    Some of those are AI researchers. Really dumb. Of course, we know better.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  35. Fun says:

    It’s not crazy to imagine various prejudices could be introduced into an AI. What are Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics but hard-coded, pro-human biases? However “diversity”, in the conventional sense of removing straight white males, won’t automatically solve that problem, and may make it worse.

  36. El Dato says:
    @Daniel H

    Africa does not belong to the Africans!

    Everybody has a right to be there!

    Let’s goo!!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. Twinkie says:
    @Lot

    Women and people of color are deeply underrepresented, the report found, noting studies finding that about 80 percent of AI professors are men, while just 15 percent of AI research staff at Facebook and 10 percent at Google are women. People of color are also sidelined, making up only a fraction of staff at major tech companies. [Boldface mine.]

    Always be skeptical when no number is provided and imprecise words such as “sidelined” are used.

    From the actual report:

    This is just one face of the diversity disaster that now reaches across the entire AI sector. The statistics for both gender and racial diversity are alarmingly low. For example, women comprise 15% of AI research staff at Facebook and just 10% at Google.4 It’s not much better in academia, with recent studies showing only 18% of authors at leading AI conferences are women,5 and more than 80% of AI professors are male.6 For black workers, the picture is worse. For example, only 2.5% of Google’s workforce is black,7 while Facebook and Microsoft are each at 4%.8,9 We have no data on trans workers or other gender minorities. Given decades of concern and investment to redress the imbalances, the current state of the field is alarming. [Boldface mine.]

    So, the author of the news article means “black” by “people of color.” Quite predictable, as always.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  38. @Anon

    Tim Wise confirms what I’d heard previously from another source, that David Coleman (“Common Core,” College Board, SAT, etc.) was the high school debate teammate of journalist Hanna Rosin, whose future husband David Plotz was the third editor of Slate.com, which was founded c. 1995 by editor Michael Kinsley with Bill Gates’ money.

    I think this helps explain a number of other wise curious connections like how did Coleman sell Gates on the Common Core, and why did Coleman’s changes to the SAT verbal section (dumping fiction and poetry for more nonfiction) make it read like Slate?

    Basically, Coleman is pretty much a bright Jewish neoliberal centrist in the mode of Michael Kinsley, who was the leading opinion journal editor of the 4th quarter of the 20th Century. Gates saw Coleman as his new Kinsley.

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    , @Reg Cæsar
  39. @El Dato

    “Where do such “Institutes” come from?”

    This institute is hosted at NYU. Its Big Tech support comes from Google and Microsoft. In fact, one of its founders works for Microsoft, the other for Google. The one who works for Microsoft is an Australian once known for electronic music, but she reinvented herself as a woke technology critic. She has appeared twice in these pages before, via a NYT op-ed on biased AI and an anti-Amazon story. I don’t know about the Googler, but she seems to be Google’s #1 internal activist. Their creation story says that they first got together in public at a 2016 symposium co-sponsored by the Obama White House.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  40. El Dato says:
    @JimB

    I think those are easily within easy reach already.

    I will not link to the deliciously weaponized chickenbot demo mishap from “Robocop” (that’s officer Holemaker taken care of), but let’s consider this:

    Oracle AI’s Eurovision horror show: How bad can it be? Yep. Badder ‘Baby by myself the stain grows more obvious…’

    An Oracle AI bot has spewed out an alleged song based on dozens of Eurovision entries.

    Eurovision songs are already infamously awful so forcing the poor bot to listen to hundreds of previous entries might one day be seen as an act of real cruelty. Our future robotic overlords will likely severely punish everyone at Oracle involved in this barbaric experiment.

    I am lost when i’m with you There’s no hesitation in your eyes Baby bye bye bye Oh bye bye bye Baby by myself the stain grows more obvious In this pain of the bird who’s flying Over roses of sadness Baby bye bye bye Oh bye bye bye Baby summer’s gone It’s gone for the both of us

    The bot wrote the words and melody but got some performance help from a human singer.

    Politicians can be implemented within a forthnight! Let’s have Igor throw the switch!

    • Replies: @Anon
  41. El Dato says:
    @Twinkie

    Evidently. Everyone not black is just colorless.

    Meanwhile, at the coalface:

    Alliance for Africa’s Intelligence (A4AI): https://www.alliance4ai.org/

    (Not to be confused with Alliance for Affordable Internet)

    And the AI Expo Africa:

    AI Expo Africa is the largest business focused AI community event in Africa. Our 2019 conference and expo (4th-5th September 2019) builds upon the phenomenal success of the inaugural event, that was held in Cape Town, September 2018, that cemented it as the largest gathering of CxOs, investors, buyers, suppliers, innovators, SMBs and global brands in the region focusing on real world AI and Data Science business applications.

    It sounds more like a “Data Science” shindig, which would at least be useful.

    I mean, most people can’t even manage the utter trash in their small relational databases…

  42. Ibound1 says:

    At least no one says “farming is too white and too male”.
    So we still have food.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  43. The artificial intelligence field is too white and too male, researchers say

    The words in boldface describe the cause of the heartburn.

  44. @kaganovitch

    kaga, another pipeline built without EPA permits.

  45. So if we are now worried about too many white males in AI research does that mean that we now have enough black math PhDs. I lose track of where we are in leveling the playing fields.

  46. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s my impression that AI is a field that genuinely requires people who are extremely bright, specifically people who are really bright in both language and mathematics, as well as logical thinking as exemplified in various kinds of puzzle solving. It’s really a perfect storm field, like quantitative hedge fund guys. It seems to me like it will be very difficult to bring in affirmative action hirees. Some women may be qualified.

    There are also jobs on the periphery of AI that could be tactically rechristened as “AI jobs,” jobs like quality assurance and database documentation and cleanup, which lesser intellects from the affirmative action community might be able to do. This could be used to juice the diversity stats for five years or so, until the disproportionate distribution of races and sexes within job categories, as well as salary gaps, is “noticed.” Then onto the next tactic. It never ends … except with the coming Anthropocene Dark Age that will be the ultimate outcome of affirmative action, with smoke billowing from abandoned nuclear power plants and foraging hunter gatherers.

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
  47. Abe says:
    @An Aussie

    Tech is so accessible now you can literally start your own STEM or AI business – yet it’s so much easier to complain about it instead.

    You got that right. Compared to bio-tech or even creating the latest moron app that lets you make an anthropomorphic fast food avatar of yourself, AI has basically zero barriers to entry. Tools, research papers, etc. are almost all free and publicly available. At most you’d need a couple of fast computers.

    So what’s holding them back? Of, yeah, an army of anonymous toiling ugly gnomes to go through the formality of actually making their “game-changing” ideas a technically-viable reality. They have more important things to do like headline TED talks and hobnob with Chelsea Clinton and Michelle Obama. Any army of white knights from NATIONAL REVIEW and WALL STREET JOURNAL are there to defend their honor against online trolls.

    Toxic princessity.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  48. OT: Illegal migrants take over Charles de Gaulle airport terminal. Won’t let people board planes.

    quote: “France does not belong to the French! Everyone has a right to be here!”

    https://nypost.com/2019/05/19/footage-shows-hundreds-of-migrants-occupying-french-airport-terminal/

  49. @Steve Sailer

    O/T but there’s a NYT article about the new adversity score, and the comments *selected by the NYT editors* are about 2-1 against the change. Boy, if you’ve lost the NYT readers and editors, it would seem DOA. The reader’s choice comments are even more against the change. More evidence that rich liberals these days are less strictly crazy than self-interested virtue signalers. They aren’t happy with their kids being at a disadvantage.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  50. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    The Verge is another one of these left-wing media organizations that hide their avocation of SJW politics behind a veneer of something popular with the youth: tech, video games, and computers. The majority of their audience is white male, so obviously this isn’t aimed at pleasing their audience so much as it is about converting their audience to their racist world view – one that advances their extremist politics while simultaneously hurting the interests of their white male audience. Here’s a hilarious video that demonstrates the point (they don’t even know basics about computer builds despite claiming to be a tech/computer outfit): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jciJ39djxC4

  51. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    An Oracle AI bot has spewed out an alleged song based on dozens of Eurovision entries.

    1. Who owns the copyright to an AI creation?

    2. This song is pretty good in my opinion.

    3. There have been some great Eurovision songs. The ye-ye classic “Poupée de cire, poupée de son” by France Gall; “Waterloo” by ABBA. Françoise Hardy participated one year, although not with her seminal ye-ye song “Tous les garçons et les filles,” which William Gibson has dubbed as the prime example of what is so great about YouTube. The eponymous German entry “Dschinghis Khan” was great. Dschinghis Khan went on to release some of the craziest camp pop songs of their era. Putin’s favorite song “Moskau” was by them. Here it is on a Russian New Years show performed by the Alexandrov Ensemble, the official Russian army choir:

    The Russians even play this song during military parades as their goosestepping troops march down the street.

    I’m not sure which is the better song, “Moskau” or “Rasputin” by Boney M:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  52. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    “More evidence that rich liberals these days are less strictly crazy than self-interested virtue signalers. They aren’t happy with their kids being at a disadvantage.”

    Exactly. These are the same kinds of people who freaked over Donald Trump’s plan to put immigrants in sanctuary cities, the same kinds of people who move away from diverse neighborhoods for the “good schools” of less diverse areas, and the same kinds of people who voted for a woman who lived in a nearly all-white Chappaqua while calling Donald Trump a racist. They have no shame.

  53. If a PoC computer scientist developed a facial recognition algorithm that was as reliable with darker skin tones as it is with lighter ones I have to imagine Google would be willing to pay for his/her/xir services.

  54. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:

    “Tech is so accessible now you can literally start your own STEM or AI business – yet it’s so much easier to complain about it instead.”

    Well, the fact that it is equal and men (white, Asian) still outperform women and blacks disproves their promoted narrative that men, women and different racial groups have equal willingness and/or aptitude to work in that field. A similar phenomenon can be noted for registered nurses. Maybe 80 or 90% of them are female, yet you don’t hear anything about getting more men into that field, why? Because it’s not a prestigious job pretentious catlady journalists want to write about. This isn’t about fairness in general but about acquiring notable jobs for their group while also making sure the occupation in question is sufficiently “diverse” so their egos aren’t simultaneously damaged by being left out of an industry seen as building the future. I’m sure the Chinese are quaking in their boots at the prospect of facing down a POC/AOC American tech competitor.

  55. Thomm says:
    @Clive Beaconsfield

    I’m guessing Asians are being implicitly left out of the “people of color” again, although maybe AI research is actually whiter than I think it is.

    Of course. At least two-thirds of the people in AI today are Asians (yellow, brown, or SE Asian).

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  56. Thomm says:

    These idiots trying to regulate AI (including grand idiot Cory Booker with his ‘Algorithmic Accountability Act’) fail basic logic, and not for the reasons many think.

    The reason their ‘efforts’ are doomed to fail is that AI is borderless and global. The laws that Booker, etc. are trying to pass are US-specific. As AI trains on a borderless pool of data, any SJW-oriented demands in the US, even if codified into law, are no match for the technological progression.

    If America contributes just 20-40% of the data feeding AI algorithms, it simply cannot adapt into a SJW-correct direction that American leftists want.

  57. Ted Bell says:
    @bjondo

    You, sir, have made my day.
    I am greatly in your debt for introducing me to this foul mouthed, brilliant, little girl. How have I not heard of her before? I now have more hope for the future than I’ve had in years.
    Thank you.

  58. Read the article. The male/female disparity is quantified, but not the alleged white POC one. I”ll hazard a guess as to why. It rhymes with “cajun.”

  59. anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    Artificial intelligence deserves artificial diversity. Hire Rachel Dolezal.

  60. @tsotha

    It might be a club of lawyers, one of the many groups of educated Americans being displaced by Mr. or Ms. AI. Maybe, they’re plotting a way of using their legal prowess to get AI back for developing software that can scan all of their law tombs in 2 seconds, rendering their sheepskins less valuable.

    Women constitute over half of all lawyers now. Though many family-friendly momma lawyers are fine with part-time work that undercuts those who need to earn a living since they lack spousal income, there might be a few high-energy, full-time, female law sharks willing to match wits with Mr. AI. What is that line in Shakespeare about a woman scorned?

    After going through all of that schooling, in addition to passing the Bar, those non-mathematical law scribes might be scouring the US Constitution and case law—old-school style—looking for any inkling that suggests the recording of every facial curve and movement for advertising or tracking purposes might trod on Fourth Amendment privacy rights.

    No?

  61. nebulafox says:
    @Thomm

    I’ve spent the last couple of weeks interviewing with an AI startup here in Singapore, and I am also going through the process with some guys back in the US. I can confirm that the idea that this is a “white dominated” field is ridiculous.

    Nobody gives a crap. All that matters is that you can know your way around a compiler or linear algebra. It’s purely objective. The math and code don’t care what your color is, what you believe in theologically, who you screw at night, anything. They don’t even care about the stupid social niceties that HR lady culture has turned into the most important thing ever. You can get away with that. But you can’t get away with being a BSer or an idiot.

    God, I love this field.

  62. @Mitchell Porter

    Any professor can set up an “institute” under his university’s roof if he can raise a respectable amount of money for it.

  63. I’m glad that the diversity psychopaths are so wound up about tech fields like AI and software development.

    But someone let me know if those HR goddesses or the Eye of Soros decide to focus on the Machinists’ or Tool & Die makers’ fields. I’ll ‘accidentally’ remove my left forearm with a lathe and go on disability…

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  64. Anon[745] • Disclaimer says:

    “If a PoC computer scientist developed a facial recognition algorithm that was as reliable with darker skin tones as it is with lighter ones”

    My theory about why humans tend to find lighter skin tones more attractive has to do with being able to differentiate health characteristics better in lighter faces; dark faces tend to smooth everything over. Who knows if this holds water, though. Obviously, I couldn’t publish any findings on the issue in this day and age.

  65. anon[913] • Disclaimer says:

    “If America contributes just 20-40% of the data feeding AI algorithms, it simply cannot adapt into a SJW-correct direction that American leftists want.”

    I worry if that’s really true. For example, if your AI is designed to find the best applicants for a job among a large candidate pool, then it might very well give lopsided racial and gender results. But in that case they could simply give other groups a few points at the end of the process and get the desired result. We seem to be going in that direction with the SAT’s adversity score as it is now. Sure, maybe it would be difficult to build a machine that spits out politically-correct results with a large enough dataset, but what stops the government from intervening and just mandating the “correct” results?

  66. @Abe

    At most you’d need a couple of fast computers.

    And a fast brain. Or at least a determined one.

  67. J says: • Website
    @Hypnotoad666

    Meaning: The author recognizes that a new industry is emerging and it is time that it should pay “reparations” to biologically incapable but politically powerful interests, just like banking, education, science and so. After all, you know, AI was invented by undocumented African females.

  68. “People of color are also sidelined, making up only a fraction of staff at major tech companies.”

    I don’t think the writer knows what “sidelined” means. To be sidelined means you made the team and are considered fully qualified to be a team member, but because of recent performance deficiencies or injury, you are not actively involved in current games.

    Am I to believe there is a highly qualified bunch of dindus and wammuns sitting on a bench somewhere on the Facebook and Google campuses, just waiting for the (((white))) coach to put them in the game?

    • Replies: @Abe
  69. @Anonymous

    Per Richard Sutton’s “The Bitter Lesson”, ‘algorithmic design’ has been beaten over the decades by more general methods plus compute power.

    http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

    But your #2 doesn’t follow – you can train at lower levels, and have a human ‘direct it’ at higher. Ways to keep human control are only limited by human cleverness.

    But more generally, what are these people thinking? I see that, and think, “well, POC and women should step up!” When will they finally realize they can’t fiat reality, that they’re trying to kick a dead horse to life?

    Also, my impression is that there’s a superabundance of Asians, more than whites. But that’s just an impression.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  70. @Steve Sailer

    whose future husband David Plotz

    Plotz wrote a whole book on Robert Graham’s so-called Nobel sperm bank.

    (Just what is it with Michigan eye doctors– Graham and John Tanton? Why can’t they go into a normal sideline, like Jack Kevorkian?)

    • LOL: Forbes
  71. @Anon

    “Rasputin” by Boney M:

    My kids, all born this century, somehow found that song, and wore us down with it this winter. I can’t believe it was a hit in my heyday. Don’t remember it at all.

    Disco was a plague to be avoided. Leo Sayer, ABBA, and the Guess Who showed you could do songs about dancing without going strobe.

  72. El Dato says:
    @Sextus Empiricus

    More like Terminal of the Saints.

  73. @The Cruncher

    Per Richard Sutton’s “The Bitter Lesson”

    As with the Spencers, don’t confuse Richard with Robert. Though it wouldn’t be so bad if one did:

  74. @Reg Cæsar

    My kids, all born this century, somehow found that song

    Maybe they read my comments. 🙂

    Jenner Ickham Errican says:
    March 5, 2017 at 8:25 am GMT

    @Anonymous

    Taha’s Orientalist disco stylings also sound like Boney M.’s “Rasputin.” Here’s an incredible extravaganza with beautiful ballerinas, crackhead pec twitches and vodka-sweat crowd.

  75. Hail says: • Website
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    quote: “France does not belong to the French!

    Tear down that stale three-worder, “Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.” Tear it down, boys! France has a new national slogan, coined today.

  76. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Living abroad I have learned that there are pop music regions, sort of like DVD video regions. The United States, perhaps with Canada, is one huge market. Europe and parts of Asia are another, in that many European hits that I never heard of while living in the U.S. are known and used, for instance, in commercials in Asia. I think the UK spans the Europe and U.S. region to a certain extent.

    So yeah, in Asia people of a certain age know a lot of old Eurovision hits.

    As for Boney M, I don’t think it was a hit in the U.S., but it was a hit in Europe during the first punk explosion. Anyone in the U.S. following punk, by osmosis, took in a certain amount of non-punk European hits, because pre internet you had to read the NME and Melody Maker. Also, stores that sold imported punk, and radio stations that played it, also sold and played this liminal stuff.

  77. Paul says:

    I have noticed too many Asians compared to Blacks and Hispanics. Some Asians have got to go!

  78. @Anon

    “It’s my impression that AI is a field that genuinely requires people who are extremely bright, specifically people who are really bright in both language and mathematics, as well as logical thinking as exemplified in various kinds of puzzle solving. It’s really a perfect storm field, like quantitative hedge fund guys”

    Not from my experience, and I have good knowledge of that field. I put all computer scientists a notch belong pure mathematicians, physicists and philosophers for raw intelligence.

    AI is a hot field. A lot of people go into it for money, including the legions of Asian plagiarists. You don’t see Asians studying the theoretical aspects of computation as much, because there isn’t money to be made. Anytime a person in a highly abstruse field is money motivated, they will lose in terms of achivement to a dork who has a passion for the material. Note that almost all the high level AI gurus are not Asian (e.g., Hinton, Goodfellow, Salaktudinov, etc).

    These days you have to know a bit more continuous math (e.g., real analysis, manifolds) than before, certainly, but I have noticed that the current crop of younger PhD students lacks a background in logic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @nebulafox
  79. Pericles says:
    @El Dato

    The AI Now Institute produces interdisciplinary research on the social implications of artificial intelligence and acts as a hub for the emerging field focused on these issues.

    Currently, our research focuses on four key domains: rights and liberties, labor and automation, bias and inclusion, and safety and critical infrastructure.

    Founded in 2017 by Kate Crawford and Meredith Whittaker, AI Now is housed at New York University, where it fosters vibrant intellectual engagement and collaboration across the University and beyond.

    AI Now’s work is done through collaborations across an expansive, world-class network

    (Six NYU logos, the ACLU and ‘Partnership on AI’, in case you wonder.)

    https://ainowinstitute.org/about.html

    The Partnership one seems almost entirely void of concrete content. See for yourselves.

    https://www.partnershiponai.org/about/

    Anyway, the general thrust of these orgs seems to be to ensure social justice AI. There actually is a technical element to this, namely how do you screw the algorithms into doing that without being too crude about it. These particular orgs may not be working on exactly that though.

  80. Pericles says:
    @Moral Stone

    The best part might be that it’s a secret adversity score too.

  81. @Ibound1

    Oh, ignorance is bliss!

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  82. @mikeInThe716

    No need to worry, those are “icky” jobs.

  83. Abe says:
    @Sextus Empiricus

    don’t think the writer knows what “sidelined” means. To be sidelined means you made the team and are considered fully qualified to be a team member,

    Despite the best efforts of company executives and the enthusiastically soi/rainbow flagged mainline staff, Brogrammnnuel Brogrammerstein keeps appearing to mess things up.

  84. Just make it illegal to pass the Turing test.

    Crisis averted.

  85. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @jbwilson24

    These days you have to know a bit more continuous math (e.g., real analysis, manifolds) than before, certainly, but I have noticed that the current crop of younger PhD students lacks a background in logic.

    You also need statistics and statistical analysis. Currently going through Mayo’s “Statistical Inference as Severe Testing”, which is a clearing of the philosophical basics. My education has big regions of blankness.

    Philosophical Logic and Computational Logic are rich fields. There are very interesting approaches to logic programming evolved from early efforts (i.e. good old Prolog) that one barely hears about. It’s really a pity. Actual business seems to be completely ignorant of even the basics of Automated Reasoning.

    • Replies: @The Cruncher
  86. Flemur says:
    @An Aussie

    Articles lamenting the lack of women in STEM are written by women who chose not to enter a STEM role for work.

    The “Report” was written by

    Sarah Myers West
    Meredith Whittaker
    Kate Crawford

    • Replies: @Forbes
  87. nebulafox says:
    @jbwilson24

    The most skilled people in math and physics I’ve ever known either came from the former Soviet Union or were Israelis with Soviet backgrounds. They just lived and breathed the stuff.

  88. Ibound1 says:
    @Redneck farmer

    If people do say “farming is too white and male” then we are in big trouble. It’s one thing for Zimbabwe to remove its food production from the world total, and it will be another when South Africa does. But if the US ever did? Bad.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  89. bjondo says:

    AI industry = mindless drones.

  90. @Anonymous

    > automated reasoning
    The problem with really fancy systems is that you need to be highly skilled to understand / add to / operate them, and those people are hard to find, and to replace.

  91. RonaldB says:
    @J.Ross

    Great piece.

    Plato said that artists are not the best ones to interpret their work, as they get their inspiration directly from the gods and do not necessarily interpret them correctly. So, the artist makes a general revelation of the internal psychology of the witch=hunter, and it is up to someone else to apply it correctly in the present environment.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  92. bjondo says:

    The most skilled people in math and physics I’ve ever known either came from the former Soviet Union or were Israelis with Soviet backgrounds.

    you have to be mistaken.

    they were the most oppressed.
    denied any skills,
    development of any kind
    not possible.

  93. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    When there are too many “everyones” tho illegal immigrants will change their tune.

  94. But more than that, the makers of AI tools have to be willing to not build the riskiest projects.

    Is this an open admission that only white men take risks (at least as far as technology is concerned)?

  95. Forbes says:
    @Flemur

    Women complaining about men. News at 11.

  96. @L Woods

    That’s a very interesting theory.

  97. @bjondo

    Read the comments in that Buzzfeed article.

  98. @Ibound1

    Back when prices were good 2008-2014, there was some grumbling about “farming being a white-male dominated field”. It’s gone down with prices.
    OT: There’s an unspoken reason many of us “still back Trump, despite the trade war”, a lot of us need off-farm income to have a decent living. Trump is maintaining/bringing back a lot of the jobs that enable you to live close to home and help out.

  99. MEH 0910 says:

  100. @Ricardo Cruz

    I certainly don’t claim to know better than most AI experts; I merely state my own opinion. One thing that we do need to wrangle is a better definition of AI. It’s gone increasingly wide these last few decades. It’s spray and pray now.

    It formerly meant Asimovian stuff, smart-assed robots that competed with us in all things.

    Today, even simple algorithmic stuff like NLP is labeled AI. That stuff bugs me.

  101. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    If white people decided to invade Africa and take a desirable chunk for themselves Black Africans could dn nothing to stop them. 30 Days to Cairo and all that.

    Other white people, however, could and will stop them. That’s what happened to Rhodesia and South Africa.

  102. Of course they don’t define “white.” My experience (and I work at one of the largest employers of AI in the world) about 75-90% of AI researchers are either Chinese or Sub-continent Indian… white males are as rare as hens teeth from what I see….

  103. J.Ross says: • Website
    @RonaldB

    In the same vein is the HBO miniseries Chernobyl, about a leftist utopia following expert-worship, credentialism, and informational compartmentalization straight into a glowing hell. The minister concerned less about radiation and more about “controlling the spread of misinformation” sounds like the BBC giving a microphone to John Podesta of all people so he can share his precious thoughts regarding “fake news.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  104. Imposing “diversity” on artificial intelligence development serves two very important purposes:

    1) It ensures that fundamental principles of artificial general intelligence such as Algorithmic Information Theory will not guide development because that would result in an AI that speaks truth, which would be bad for the social pseudosciences that are cramming “diversity” down the planet’s throat.

    2) It ensures that “unfriendly AI” will never be developed because only pseudo-AI, hiding unfriendly natural intelligence behind “algorithms” that censor and hunt down dissidents, will be developed.

  105. El Dato says:
    @J.Ross

    I’m gonna watch that.

    Kids, don’t build or operate RBMKs (still live near Smolensk, Kursk and St. Petersburg

    “controlling the spread of misinformation”

    This seems to be still the case today in the Belarus part The Zone.

    AI Related (more like, surveillance state run by off the leash public servants, rabid laywers and sleepy legislators related):

    We listened to more than 3 hours of US Congress testimony on facial recognition so you didn’t have to go through it Long story short: Models are ineffective, racist, dumb…

    (this is actually pretty good; start at 40th minute to escape to “keep you waiting” screen)

    Even if there was a facial recognition system with near-perfect accuracy in the testing phase, it doesn’t solve the problem that most data used by law enforcement is often grainy and low resolution. A recent report by Georgetown University found that in some cases police were even trying to match people by composite artist sketches.

    That’s going to be a win. “We are looking for handsome white shooters from a drug deal gone bad in South Chicago”. “We found them in Hollywood”.

    In all of the above, you need to subsitute “AI” with “Artificial Neural Networks” to make meaning clear.

    Bonus promotional video #1

    Yoshua Bengio, Geoffrey Hinton, and Yann LeCun discuss their work and the 2018 ACM A.M. Turing Award (which is considered the Nobel Prize for Computing)

    “Communications of the ACM” 2019-06 has more on this. Damned youngsters.

    Bonus promotional video #2

    In CACM 2019/06 The Challenge of Crafting Intelligible Intelligence is of much interest.


    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  106. @El Dato

    I met a young blond fellow who wanted to be an actor whose big break was playing on a Chicago-set show the Southside Rapist.

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