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From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

New documents revisit questions about Rep. Ilhan Omar’s marriage history

Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened.
By J. Patrick Coolican and Stephen Montemayor Star Tribune JUNE 22, 2019

New investigative documents released by a state agency have given fresh life to lingering questions about the marital history of Rep. Ilhan Omar and whether she once married a man — possibly her own brother — to skirt immigration laws.

Omar has denied the allegations in the past, dismissing them as “baseless rumors” first raised in an online Somali politics forum and championed by conservative bloggers during her 2016 campaign for the Minnesota House. But she said little then or since about Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, the former husband who swept into her life in 2009 before a 2011 separation.

The questions surfaced again this month in a state probe of campaign finance violations showing that Omar filed federal taxes in 2014 and 2015 with her current husband, Ahmed Hirsi, while she was still legally married to but separated from Elmi.

Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened.

The new documents also detail the Omar campaign’s efforts to keep the story of her marriage to Elmi out of the press, arguing that detailed coverage would legitimize the accusations and invade her privacy.

Since the recent findings of the campaign finance board that discovered Omar had improperly used campaign money to pay a lawyer to fix her tax filings, the Star Tribune searched public records — including available databases, the marriage and divorce filing, business licenses, university records and other documents — and could find little publicly available information about Elmi. The search of records could neither conclusively confirm nor rebut the allegation that he is Omar’s sibling.

Sent a list of questions and a request to talk to her siblings and father, Omar declined to do so. Hirsi did not reply to multiple calls, texts and e-mails. Social media posts indicate Elmi is in Africa. He did not respond to multiple e-mails.

Omar’s reticence is consistent with near total silence she has maintained for three years amid questions raised through public records picked over by conservative opinion journalists intent on proving that she committed immigration fraud. Those attacks, she once tweeted, are the provenance of “fake journalists on bigoted blogs.”

Omar spokesman Jeremy Slevin issued a statement Friday asserting that the questions about her personal life are illegitimate:

“Since before she was elected to office, Ilhan has been the subject of conspiracy theories and false accusations about her personal life. Emboldened by a president who openly treats immigrants, refugees and Muslims as invaders, these attacks often stem from the presumption that Ilhan — like others who share those identities — is somehow illegitimate or not fully American.

“Ilhan has shared more than most public officials ever do about the details of her personal life — even when it is personally painful,” he continued. “Whether by colluding with right-wing outlets to go after Muslim elected officials or hounding family members, legitimate media outlets have a responsibility not to fan the flames of hate. Continuing to do so is not only demeaning to Ilhan, but to her entire family.”

The questions have nevertheless persisted as a political threat over the years while the former war refugee from Somalia made history being elected to the Minnesota House and then winning a seat in Congress.

Her ascent as the nation’s first Somali-American lawmaker has won her global praise and given her an international platform to champion human rights, criticize Israel, and challenge the Trump administration’s immigration policies — positions that have drawn further ire and scrutiny from conservative critics.

Omar’s widely condemned statements about the influence of Israel and Jewish money in American politics have only upped the stakes for her critics, who are also often passionate defenders of the Israeli government.

Throughout it all, Omar’s public persona has been informed by her biography as a refugee overcoming racial and cultural barriers. Yet she has insisted on silence on some key details.

“It’s really strange, right, to prove a negative,” she told the Star Tribune in an interview in October, before she was elected to Congress. As for Elmi, she said, “If someone was asking me, do I have a brother by that name, I don’t. If someone was asking … are there court documents that are false … there is no truth to that.”

Beyond denying the provocative allegation that Elmi is her brother, Omar has shed little light on her married life, which began in 2002, when she wed Hirsi in their Muslim faith tradition.

The Star Tribune has sought to authenticate some of the most egregious allegations, using public records and available social media posts, which make up the bulk of the case against her.

Some of the original social media accounts linking Elmi to Omar after their split in 2011 appear to have been removed, and documents verifying the family relationships of refugees from war-torn countries with limited government record-keeping are notoriously hard to obtain, even by U.S. immigration authorities.

Omar declined to make her tax and immigration records available for this report.

As George W. Bush would say:

When I was the governor of Texas I used to say family values did not stop at the Rio Grande River. People are coming here to put food on the table, and they’re doing jobs Americans are not doing.

Are your family values strong enough to marry a sibling for immigration fraud purposes?

I didn’t think so.

So, shut up, bigot.

 
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  1. She “corrected” her 2013 and 2014 tax returns because they showed she filed Married Filing Jointly with a man she was not married to. But what about her 2011 and 2012 tax returns? Those returns were not within the three-year window to amend returns. There is a good chance that her 2011 and 2012 returns are fraudulent.

    Maybe Trump would like to dangle the release of his 2011 and 2012 tax returns in exchange for Omar’s release of those returns.

  2. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    “Ben Goldfarb”

    “Shut it down”

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Olorin
  3. Have a bad feeling this issue is going to just quietly go away again.

  4. Escher says:

    All sins and crimes are forgiven if you are the 1st of your ethnicity to become famous.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  5. The new documents also detail the Omar campaign’s efforts to keep the story of her marriage to Elmi out of the press, arguing that detailed coverage would legitimize the accusations…

    Kind of tells you all you need to know.

  6. bomag says:

    Omar spokesman Jeremy Slevin issued a statement Friday asserting that the questions about her personal life are illegitimate

    LOL

    Meanwhile, Barack Obama was able to get a judge to release his opponent’s divorce records ’cause, you know, the public’s right to know.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @MBlanc46
  7. bomag says:

    Throughout it all, Omar’s public persona has been informed by her biography as a refugee overcoming racial and cultural barriers.

    It is a damaging idea to give someone part of your country and political power because they have a vague story of suffering in a distant land.

  8. Thud says:

    People (like the powerline blog) need to keep hammering away at this, a line needs to be drawn.

  9. We are so sick of your White People Rules.

    Soon they will all be gone!

    Along with white people.

  10. Tiny Duck says:

    Literally fake news

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/

    So what if it is true. The very fact it tees off conservative Christian white males means it couldn’t be that bad

    • Replies: @donut
  11. There is one job Ilhan Omar is doing that ordinary Americans aren’t, or at least their elected representatives – calling out Zionist influence in US politics.

    Bearing that in mind, is it really worth signaling against her?

    Perhaps deport her to Somalia once the Ioffes, Kristols, Wohls, and Shapiros are likewise repatriated to their promised land.

  12. ic1000 says:

    File that Minneapolis Star-Tribune article by J. Patrick Coolican and Stephen Montemayor under Not Getting The Joke.

    There is copious documentary and circumstantial evidence that Rep. Omar married then divorced her brother in the course of committing immigration fraud. In the run-up to Omar’s celebrated First Muslim Woman electoral triumph in November 2018, those stories were championed by conservative bloggers (Coolican’s and Montemayor’s phrasing) while being ignored and downplayed by respectable media organs. Such as Rep. Omar’s hometown paper, come to think of it!

    Even Google can’t completely protect the curious reader from pre-November articles.

    Here’s a recent Twitter thread from reporter conservative blogger champion David Steinberg, with links to his earlier work.

  13. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d do a cousin ?

    – Amadan Pakistani

  14. I want a complete audit of her genitalia.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
  15. Are your family values strong enough to marry a sibling for immigration fraud purposes?

    It’s like the old joke about homosexuals in the military: It used to be forbidden. Then came “don’t ask … don’t tell.” I’m glad I got out before it becomes mandatory.

    The question now is, can it be same-gender marriage to one’s sibling?

  16. @Anatoly Karlin

    Wow, AK, you really put us in a Zen Tiger/Cliff situation with that one.

  17. Family values don’t stop at the Indian Ocean.

  18. @ic1000

    Ohhhh, so this marriage wasn’t consummated, just the usual immigration fraud.

    I feel a lot better about it then.

    ¡Jeb!

  19. dearieme says:

    At least she hasn’t lied about being a Cherokee.

  20. @ic1000

    Powerline has been on this since forever, and the Strib determined not to be. Their latest:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/06/loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

    More ruling class malfeasance. It all comes down to snobbery – doing anything that might been seen to help the right (and that goalpost is constantly shifting left) is declasse.

  21. slumber_j says:

    Did we start saying “faith tradition” during the Clinton era? That’s my impression: I was out of the country for about eight years, and when I got back, this guy from Arkansas was saying “faith tradition” all the time until his term ended shortly thereafter.

    What I don’t get is what’s being euphamized here. Is “faith tradition” designed to soften the blow for people who object to the notion of religion, or what?

  22. OT

    First woman Royal Marine (and international rower) does Dartmoor hike with 70lb of kit plus rifle, stress fracture of leg ensues.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7171673/First-female-Royal-Marine-forced-halt-training-breaking-leg-gruelling.html

    “Ms Birch was allowed to apply to the Royal Marines as a result of a decision by the former Prime Minister David Cameron in 2016 to lift the ban on women serving in close combat regiments. ”

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  23. A different question about Rep. Omar: She comes from FGM country. Was she cut, or cut and stitched, as a child? If yes, what position does she take on that abomination?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. TED says:
    @slumber_j

    Although being used against Islam in this case, by and large the term “faith tradition” is just part of the never-ending effort to denigrate Christianity. Just like the terms BCE and CE seem to have replaced BC and AD almost overnight. Who started this crap? Who thought it was a good idea? I’m don’t know, but if I was a betting man, my money would be on individuals from the the small hat “faith tradition”.

  25. HonestBl says:

    Everybody should read the article just to see how disgusting mainstream journalism has become. When a liberal darling does something, they stop reporting about the facts, instead they report about the conservatives’ reaction to the facts: “conservatives pounce”, “conservatives try to prove”, “right wing media became obsessed”. It is truly sick.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  26. @Anatoly Karlin

    Signaling?

    Here’s a signal that matters: no one is above the law.

  27. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Everyone with the correct views and race, gender, religion is above the law. Add in orientation. Jussie Smollett, OJ, Al Sharpton all show the law is only for White men really.

    Almost all non Whites? They are the law. That was the whole point of the Civil Rights movement.

  28. George says:
    @Desiderius

    Too bad there is no longer any settled immigration law in the US. And she is here in the US due to US foreign policy which destroyed her homeland. If they are going to turn Minn into the new Somalia Omar is key to organizing it. In my mind, what are the white politicians doing?

  29. David says:
    @slumber_j

    Maybe it’s about the tradition after the faith is gone.

  30. OFF TOPIC:

    Language wars: the 19 greatest linguistic spats of all time

    Words are ever evolving – but not without controversy. From creative applications of an apostrophe to the overuse of literally, what makes you rage?

    David Shariatmadari

    UK Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/profile/davidshariatmadari

    Are you really disinterested?

    Use this word at your own risk. If what you want to say is “lacking in interest” then brace yourself, because there’s an army of people who will point out that it should be “uninterested”, and that “disinterested” must mean “impartial”. They are sticklers for what they regard as the correct meaning, and have taken up columnist William Safire’s command to “rear up and rage, rage against the dying of an enlightening distinction”. The problem is that if a word is more frequently used to mean one thing than another, then that’s effectively what it means: you can’t fight a linguistic consensus. The news for pedants gets worse, however. The OED tells us that the use of “disinterested” to mean not interested or unconcerned has been around since at least the 17th century, used by no less a stylist than the poet John Donne.

    • Replies: @guest
  31. Jake says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Excellent point.

    Here is another, answering this Sailer question: “Are your family values strong enough to marry a sibling for immigration fraud purposes?”

    If you are Mohammedan or of Talmudic Jewish lineage, then your ancestral, religious family values are all about lying and raw power to overcome all ‘other’ peoples.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  32. @Desiderius

    Muh rule of law.

    I mean, what does pursuing Ilhan Omar for this signal? That if you go against Zionist power, you will be destroyed (this issue would never have even made the headlines if Omar hadn’t invited Cuckservative Inc. ire by criticizing The Greatest Ally). And then your actual overlords will continue gleefully inviting the world (but legally!).

    If even the “based” Americans who comment on this site can’t grasp this then perhaps they *deserve* to be replaced?

  33. Yngvar says:

    She’s pretty much admitting she’s guilty as charged.

  34. @Anatoly Karlin

    Quite so, also consider that she is an African, and Africans often have a different concept of marriage. Actually it is surprising that USCIS even accepts marriages made in jurisdictions outside the US as valid.

    After a point you have to let bygones be bygones.

    You might as well start investigating the circumstances under which the First Lady obtained her visa, and how she met her husband who was still married to another woman at the time.

    And anyway, if there is any point at all in “diversity” it is to have different points of view represented in public policy, so for that reason alone Omar is useful and it is not useful to discuss whether she is a bigamist.

  35. I agree with Karlin, leave the congressbulb alone. She may want to open our borders but she annoys the people who malevolently pull the strings. Who also want our borders open.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @guest
  36. (((Steinberg!))) Whew, Mossad’s Fifth Column is on it. Can’t have an unbribed official with Article II authority when you want to make your goy dupes nuke Iran! Thanks for his priceless nasal whining about not getting credit for Mossad’s ratfuck, that’s a hoot. Nice to see 8200 beavering away on the NSA traitors’ unfiltered take.

  37. eah says:

    I commented about this several times in the recent past on unz.com, and included references to the work of people who’d diligently looked into it — she definitely married her brother — exactly why only she can say — but it appears related to immigration and/or student loan fraud.

  38. Chriscom says:

    As noted above Powerline and Steinberg (PJ Media) have been on this for years, and the Star-Tribune has advanced the story to… where it was a very long time ago. Meanwhile there’s a weird DC Examiner story by a reporter plowing similar ground and bragging about her groundbreaking expose, also not crediting them. Steinberg is going after her nicely though.

  39. Alfa158 says:
    @slumber_j

    I think that you’re right about that. The Catholic Church, at least in the US, has apparently officially banned the use of the word religion. All of the priests at my parish use the term “faith tradition” so exclusively, that there must have been some policy promulgated directing them to stop referring to religion.

    • Replies: @Lot
  40. Don’t anger your patrons, kids!

  41. ” . . . so exclusively, that there must have been some policy promulgated directing them to stop referring to religion.”

    I have used the term faith and practice for more than fifteen years I think. For people of faith religion is very abstract and varied.

  42. @slumber_j

    Did we start saying “faith tradition” during the Clinton era?

    The phrase has an awfully Church of England echo to it. The C of E, of which I used to be a member, has hardly anyone left in it who actually believes in stuff like God, Heaven, Hell and the other effective tools that used to keep the faithful in line, so they use all kinds of euphemisms for everything. Even death is not what it was.

    The services from the Book of Common Prayer have been abolished and the various canticles and dialogues that were good enough for our ancestors for hundreds of years have been set aside, the organs have been mothballed, and replaced with happy-clappy songs and guitar-playing priests.

    Almighty and most merciful Father,
    We have erred and strayed from thy ways like lost sheep,
    We have followed too much the devices and desires of our own hearts,
    We have offended against thy holy laws, we have left undone those things which we ought to have done, and we have done those things which we ought not to have done, and there is no good in us.

    has been replaced with:

    Hey, there, God, Allah, whatever you want to call yourself. We have caused a lot of pollution to Your universe, but it is not really our fault, because we are green at heart. W are not perfect, but You made us in your own image, and we have done our best, and if You don’t like, it, then whatever. We do not have to come to church on a Sunday mornings, when there are more interesting things to do. And so say all of us. Amen.

    • LOL: bomag
  43. bomag says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    And anyway, if there is any point at all in “diversity” it is to have different points of view represented in public policy, so for that reason alone Omar is useful…

    I’d say this highlights the problems of “diversity”.

    A functioning society takes for granted many mores, such as what constitutes a marriage. Omar et al don’t really diversify, they just wreck and rebuild in the image of their homeland.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. bomag says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    …pursuing Ilhan Omar

    I’m with you in that Omar is a refreshing blast of push back against the neocons et al.

    But she’s rather odious in many other ways.

  45. What I can’t figure out is what immigration fraud she was furthering. Her brother was here in high school. What advantage did they get from marrying?

    So marriage fraud, sure.

    And tax fraud galore. It’s clear she wasn’t married to her actual husband either before 2017. So from 2002 to 2009, did she file as single or as married? Then from 2009 to 2017, if she filed as single, she was most assuredly committing tax fraud.

    But no one has been specific as to what fraudulent purpose was achieved by marrying her brother.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Polynikes
    , @Anon
  46. @ic1000

    “It’s really strange, right, to prove a negative,” she told the Star Tribune in an interview in October, before she was elected to Congress.

    I’m not sure she fully understands the concept of “proving a negative.” For example, it was impossible for Kavanagh to produce affirmative evidence showing he didn’t touch some girl’s butt in 1975, or whatever. But showing that her husband is not her brother could be done with a simple 23 & Me test. (Like how Elizabeth Warren proved she wasn’t an Indian).

    I also like the way that the Star refers to her fraud and bigamy as a “discrepancy.” They should have just referred to her as an “over-documented immigrant” because she had too many marriage certificates.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @guest
    , @Anon
  47. guest says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    We have homegrown Africans enough to call out the juice. Don’t need Somalis stealing the jobs of our Farrakhans.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    , @Hail
  48. @education realist

    But no one has been specific as to what fraudulent purpose was achieved by marrying her brother.

    For her sake, I hope their was a fraudulent purpose. Because otherwise . . . Eww.

    • Replies: @bartolo1
  49. guest says:
    @ic1000

    This article is a case of what Andy Dufresne would call “deliberate obtuseness.” Which is different than not getting the joke.

  50. guest says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    The discrepancy , I think, is supposed to have been an “oopsie” concerning filing with a previous husband while she was with her new husband?

    Look, playing defense attorney is tough for journalists.

  51. @slumber_j

    Is “faith tradition” designed to soften the blow for people who object to the notion of religion, or what?

    It’s like saying: “I’m not religious but I’m a very spiritual person.”

  52. Muslims can “marry” in a ceremony of two, in their kitchen. It’s part of Sharia Law. Sharia Law prohibits Muslims from recognizing any other law that contradicts Sharia Law, such as bigamy, and consanguineal marriage laws.

    That said, the storm over her comments on Jews, and more recently supporting Ocasio’s “concentration camp” comments, are true. They are made offensive by the (((gangsters))) who hold every “Western liberal democracy” hostage.

    As Ernst Zundel found out, the truth is no defense.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  53. guest says:

    “Those attacks…are the provenance of ‘fake journalists on bigoted blogs’”

    Nice English, Tribune. You’re saying exactly the opposite of what you want to say.

    By the way, where are all these blogs? I realize blogs still exist, but it’s not ten years ago. I’m thinking this was spread more by social media. But I guess forums and chatrooms were in on it, too.

  54. guest says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Why do you keep saying “signal?”

    Somali invasion is a life-and-death issue for many Minnesotans.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  55. Polynikes says:
    @education realist

    Spouses of citizens and legal residents get preferential treatment allowing them to skip the line. So no marriage =no citizenship for Rep. Omar.

    According to popular culture, this is apparently the most common type of immigration fraud.

    • Replies: @education realist
    , @anon
  56. @Anatoly Karlin

    You cannot know what effect it will have. Yes, this issue (actually, a pretty serious issue, possibly having married two men at the same time, though one of them fraudulently only) is kept alive only because of her criticism of Israel, but this issue has nothing to do with Israel, so why shouldn’t it be pointed out? Maybe it will open many eyes that the Diverse and the Holy Immigrants are actually, well, less than spotless?

    Another issue is that what you say is basically that “until you cannot do something which is clearly impossible, you shouldn’t do anything at all.” Well, you obviously cannot deport people like Ioffe, but you perhaps can deport Ms Hijabi. Then why not at least deport Ms Hijabi?

    A third point is that this is an internal squabble among the pro-Diverse – you could support Ms Hijabi (and the Jews behind her, because, make no mistake, there’s an entire faction supporting her), or you could support the neocons (which is a different faction, some of whom at least don’t prioritize the total destruction of White America as highly), and it’s not totally obvious why supporting either side would be worse than the other.

    Omar has already apologized, so she’s pretty useless against the Only Democracy in the Middle East anyway.

  57. @Anatoly Karlin

    Bundling the Zionist (ie. Israeli-Palestinian) question with American immigration policy is stupid. People who can’t separate the two are doing politics stupidly and should be called out rather than pandered to, at least in conversation. If Ilhan Omar committed immigration fraud she should be called out. If she’s right about AIPAC she she be defended on that point.

    “Muh rule of law” is a big reason why Hong Kong is not just another fishing village along the Chinese coast.

    In any case, the Zionist project does a pretty good job making itself look bad, all on their own:

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  58. A DNA test seems like a pretty definitive way to prove that two people are not siblings.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
  59. @Anatoly Karlin

    Uh, maybe the delirium that leads 78% of a majority white district to elect this airhead – if you think it was her anti-semitism that got her elected and not another kind of signaling I’ve got a bridge in Palestine to sell you – is the more pressing problem for those who care about the fate of America rather than their own Dork Right obsessions with Israel.

    • Replies: @Anon
  60. peterike says:

    OT: Young Indian girl huckster claims she will teach a billion kids to code using board games, and also wants to become President. And gets to present at Microsoft.

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/meet-the-11-yearold-ceo-trying-to-teach-1-billion-kids-to-code-150017815.html

    Indians are mad geniuses at conning stupid white Liberals.

  61. I think Ilhan Omar’s doing a lot more good than harm.

    In another world, I might have the luxury of objecting to such figures. Today, in the world we live in, she’s an improvement on the average.

    She won’t meaningfully affect the consensus on immigration, etc — but she will at least help to break that Zionist ball and chain. We are doing things that are stupid — and we are doing things that are evil. Let’s quit with the evil, and then we’ll get to the stupid.

  62. J.Ross says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    “Calling out” is meaningless virtue signaling. The J team is the third rail of American politics and no substantive criticism (what calling out pretends to be) is possible. Speaking as an awful internet Nazi Russian virgin I fail to see the helpfulness of a politically and historically illiterate Muslim babbling about Da Jooz, unless of course the goal and not just the coincidence is to attack the credibility of real complaints by surrounding them with nonsense.
    ———-
    Google exec on tape talking about interfering in the 2020 election to prevent a Trump victory: I predict Trump will tweet about it once and then forget it ever happened.

    • Replies: @Hail
  63. @reiner Tor

    is kept alive only because of her criticism of Israel

    Are you insane? It’s kept alive because she broke the damn law and is getting away with it in plain sight. Same with Hillary. Why would anyone want to live in a feudal society?

    You do the crime you do the time. There’s a reason why police procedurals are the only shows that can still scare up a decent television audience.

  64. J.Ross says:
    @415 reasons

    That’s racism.
    In a few more years it will be possible to establish genetic predisposition for rape with a one dollar disposble kit — and our government will make no move to even try it.
    Every day we are denied something by oppressive diversity.

  65. @reiner Tor

    More importantly the only functional Nation in the West.

  66. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    A feudal society? You mean like the Umma?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  67. @Jonathan Mason

    The First Lady may or may not be a lot of things. Her immigration/marriage history also may or may not be a lot of things, though it is most likely on the up and up or at least more approximate to being on the up and up. One thing though is certain about her, and that is that her fundamental cultural outlook is not incompatible/incomprehensible to any large degree with that of the culture of the founding stock of the US.

    Now try saying that about the Clitless Bulbhead.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  68. @415 reasons

    I don’t see any volunteerism on that front; do you?

  69. @guest

    There not in Congress though.

  70. Tex says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Omar got the message already. She quit talking about AIPAC and started in on ending America as a country for white men.

    If the enemy of my enemy has decided to go easy on my enemy and announce I’m her worst enemy that means I’m on my own. To hell with Omar.

  71. @ic1000

    So this woman in essence arrived here illegally.

    And is now a member of the US Congress.

    Verily, but this is Hollywood fodder.

  72. Taxman says:

    Maybe she can’t show her taxes yet, because she is under audit. Those audits take many years.

    • LOL: Paleo Liberal
  73. Barnard says:
    @reiner Tor

    Without looking up every historical source, I would imagine the accusation that a member of Congress was married to two different people at the same time and committed immigration fraud is unprecedented in the history of the United States. If this was a white Mormon man facing these accusations, the conversation would have reached the “resign or get expelled” stage long before now.
    To claim that it is only being kept alive because Omar criticizes Israel is crazed zealotry. People who make that claim discredit themselves.

  74. Daniel H says:

    I agree that Omar is a wretch, but she is a useful wretch. Let her sit there as a burr in the side, as a taunt to the Cucks and neo-Cons.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  75. @Bragadocious

    No one writing here has any power to expel Ilhan Omar from Congress or even hinder her career. All we can do here is discuss current events in an open forum where others might get something from the ideas we toss around. This isn’t where moves on the grand chessboard are made, this is where we take part in one of many conversations about what the next moves should be.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  76. Anonymous[536] • Disclaimer says:

    (Off topic)

    Steve, with your finger on the pulse of pop culture, have you made any comments on how women’s soccer is being pushed so hard, lately?

    I’m still recovering from the WNBA push. Bleh.

    And all the collective Duane Haskins push from the national media. (Colin Cowherd, literally said a few days after the pick, that if Haskins underperformed, it was our fault. And you know Danny-boy loves him some black QB. We could have just picked Brian Burns. Then a 2nd round WR threat (miss Garcon and Jackson STILL) and then had our 2nd rounder next year as well.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    , @Reg Cæsar
  77. @Anatoly Karlin

    Ilhan Omar seems to be proof that it takes someone more tribal than The Tribe to call out The Tribe! Still, does this country need still further tribalism? It’s not like two tribal antipathies, directed at one another, somehow cancel out, yielding a European-like atmosphere of mutual respect and cordiality.

    However, I do agree with your sentiment that it is a good thing to have increasing numbers of prominent people attacking the Zionist stranglehold on our country.

  78. anon[434] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Ilhan Omar’s calling out Zionist influence is a win win– for the Zionists. If the main spokesman for anti Zionism is an immature left wing dingbat who married her brother to get into the country, that’s an association that will work in their favor. Try being an ordinary old white guy who goes to a town hall meeting to try to alert his community to Zionist influence. He will immediately be associated with her, and his neighbors will laugh him out of the room.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  79. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    I’d say this highlights the problems of “diversity”.

    A functioning society takes for granted many mores, such as what constitutes a marriage. Omar et al don’t really diversify, they just wreck and rebuild in the image of their homeland.

    +1000

  80. Danindc says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Good point. But Steve is a citizenist and she is ruining Minnesota via immigration and would love to put the nail in the coffin. So He’s living up to his ideals.

  81. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @education realist

    She became a citizen to in 2000. Marrying her brother gave him a spouse green card; legal immigrant on his way to citizenship.

  82. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Don’t you mean the Red Star Tribune?

  83. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Her district has the most Jews of any Minnesota district. It’s basically Minneapolis.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @J.Ross
  84. @Cagey Beast

    No one writing here has any power to expel Ilhan Omar from Congress or even hinder her career

    Especially true for Canadians!

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  85. minnesota voters will make sure america has dozens of ilhan omars.

    minnesota gearing up to vote for the next democrat nut job in 2020. as always.

  86. @Polynikes

    Oh, she wasn’t a citizen until she married her brother? That has remained unmentioned. It seems a key point, if so.

  87. Dtbb says:
    @Anonymous

    If it is being pushed so hard, why couldn’t I watch the game on broadcast TV today?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  88. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dtbb

    You are cheap? I was at a sports bar and SWE-CAN was playing on 50% of the TVs. And had the sound on.

  89. guest says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    Oh, John Donne. La-di-da.

    Did the OED also tell you there was another word called *disinteressed* meaning what we now call disinterested, and that disinterested was at one point indistinguishable from uninterested in meaning?

    Whatever happened to disinteressed, huh? Who shall rid us of this BASTARD replacement?

  90. guest says:
    @Bragadocious

    You’re trading a direct hit for an indirect glance.

    She does annoy, but who cares? They wouldn’t give her all that attention if she really bothered them. They’d silence her like McCarthy.

  91. anon[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polynikes

    I believe it was the other way around – fake marriage to help her husband/brother to obtain U.S. status. A refreshing change from the more usual Somali immigration fraud of claiming relatives who are not actually family at all.

    Also possible that there were tax/benefit advantages if husband/brother had little-to-no income to report. Omar already had two children from her first husband.

    Or it could be that Omar is actually a transexual and was just doing the male Muslim polygamy thang.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
  92. @George

    Five steps of conquest.
    Step 1. We want freedom
    Step 2. We want equal rights
    Step 3. We want preferential treatment
    Step 4. We want reparations
    Step 5. We want you gone

    That which you are not willing to defend, will be taken from you.

  93. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike

    She’s 11 years old and runs a company thst does $600,000/yr in revenue. She’s doing corporate presentations.

    How much does your company make? You ever present in front of investors?

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  94. nebulafox says:
    @Cagey Beast

    It’s all theater. Neither side is going to budge, neither side expects the other to. Israel’s not even seriously bothering to appease bien-pensant opinion anymore. And in fairness, why should they? They have the whip hand just about everywhere, except for demographics, which is at worst a stalemate. He’s only gussying it up in obnoxious neo-Wilsonian rhetoric due to the audience, and I don’t even think he seriously expects to influence them. He just needs to be on record as trying.

    He’s right. The Palestinians realizing that nobody is coming to their rescue on right of return or Jerusalem and look at what the Israelis might realistically offer elsewhere would lead to the best long term outcome for everybody. The world is a cold, hard place. That it should not our job to subsidize the defense of Israeli conquests without anything appreciable in return doesn’t change their basis in reality-a reality that they can perpetuate well enough on their own, through their own capabilities.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  95. anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @George

    They are busy planning for the future, in which Muslims on the dole vote for them in a block…every election.

  96. El Dato says:
    @bomag

    “Don’t ask don’t tell”.

  97. nebulafox says:
    @Daniel H

    I think her grasp on the nuances of the issue was a little crude, but no worse than the average politician’s, and at any rate, watching her drive the AIPAC crowd nuts was postively sublime. I respect brass balls when I see them, irrespective of the person. Might disagree with her on a lot, but it is evidence that she’s not a *completely* empty suit.

    Too bad her handlers quickly redirected her against more acceptable targets, as they do with most politicos who cross a line.

  98. @nebulafox

    I agree. All we can do is police our own people. We can police our people who put on rose-coloured glasses when looking at Israelis, Palestinians or the many, many Ilhan Omars arriving at our airports as we speak.

  99. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile. World War T news.

    Shitstorm is deepening, here’s news from what can nowadays only be described as the Weimar Republic off the European Mainland:

    UK academic faces dismissal over criticism of LGBT training in universities

    A UK lecturer, who claims she’s been branded a transphobe by students after signing an open letter to the Sunday Times that criticized LGBT training, insists she will not “recant” her signature despite the risk of being fired.

    … It comes after Honeychurch, who is an editor of the journal Hybrid Pedagogy, received a formal email from the managing editor of the publication, Chris Friend. He tells Honeychurch that unless he has misunderstood the intentions of the letter, “I must ask that you resign your position as editor for HPJ.”

    Guidance included in the training program instructs academics to use gender neutral pronouns such as “zie” and “ey,” as well as insisting that “one in 100 are born with an intersex trait.” In addition, trans women should be allowed to use female changing rooms.

    Ey, we haf ways of making zie trans!

    Ok, who is financing this or directing taxpayer money to this weirdness? Where are the people in positions of responsibility pushing this coming from? What’s the goal of afflicting people with confused mental illness? More important, why don’t people start throwing frag grenades?

    This is not unlike the “repressed memories of sexual abuse in childhood” multi-decade-long flap, an entirely pseudo-scientific swindle built by academics, crank psychologists, publicity hounds and deviants. It left real victims in its wake.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  100. Lot says:
    @Alfa158

    Yeah “faith” as an adjective is now a buzzword. Faith tradition, faith communities, etc.

  101. @Bragadocious

    The difference between what I can do as a Canadian to kick Ilhan Omar from your Congress and what the average American could do is barely worth mentioning.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  102. @peterike

    She has revenues exceeding 600 000 K at that young age what do you do?

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @peterike
  103. @Robert Pinkerton

    If yes, what position does she take on that abomination?

    Cross-legged, I’d guess, so it’s not easy to tell. BTW, that was an illegitimate questions.

  104. @Escher

    All sins and crimes are forgiven if you are the 1st of your ethnicity to become famous.

    The first of her ethnicity to become famous married David Bowie. Was that a sin, or a crime?

    • Replies: @Escher
  105. @Anatoly Karlin

    … (this issue would never have even made the headlines if Omar hadn’t invited Cuckservative Inc. ire by criticizing The Greatest Ally).

    Ahhh, bull. If that was the case this issue would have made the 24-hour TV infotainment long ago, not just one article in the Minneapolis newspaper and on conservative blogs.

    You don’t get this “enemy of my enemy” business at all. You let your enemy do it’s work when it’s against YOUR enemy. What she said has already been said. She is still the sworn enemy of the American people, so you don’t help her in that work. Get it?

    Desiderius is right, along with Mr. or Mrs. Beast and Tex. This foreign Somalian freak needs to go.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  106. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    @IlhanMN’s crisis manager Ben Goldfarb

    Of course!

  107. @George

    and she is here in the US due to US foreign policy which destroyed her homeland.

    They were doing a fine job of that without our help.

    If they are going to turn Minn into the new Somalia Omar is key to organizing it. In my mind, what are the white politicians doing?

    Well, duh. The Somalis can’t organize anything, let alone themselves. This is the white politicians’ job. Outsourcing, if you will.

  108. @Anonymous

    Steve, with your finger on the pulse of pop culture, have you made any comments on how women’s soccer is being pushed so hard, lately?

    There are few of the nationalistic embarrassments of men’s soccer.


    The curious rise of soccer nationalism coincides with a larger political movement

    “Curious”?

  109. gp says:

    I give major props to Powerline for bird-dogging this story for a long long time. I am gratified and actually surprised that they succeeded in shaming their local mainstream news media into finally reporting this story. For over a year, the arrogant snobby SJW commissars at Star-Tribune did everything they could to ignore it.

    We need many more sites like Powerline and CWBChicago that report the news that the local media usually suppresses for political purposes.

    PS: I predict that the story will do no damage to Omar’s career, since she will be given an automatic intersectional pass by her constituents, and she herself, like many intersectionals, has never been ashamed of her disregard for facts. But I’m very glad the story is out there now, nevertheless.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Desiderius
  110. @Jim bob Lassiter

    No. An audit of the external female genitalia. No soundings necessary.

  111. @Anon

    Microsoft is a freak show anyway.

  112. Hail says: • Website
    @guest

    We have homegrown Africans

    Don’t need Somalis stealing the jobs of our Farrakhans

    Farrakhan is not a homegrown African. He is of Carribean origin. Father: Jamaica; mother: St. Kitts and Nevis.

    Farrakhan thus has no ex-CSA slave ancestry at all and little organic connection to Black America. He grew up in Caribbean-oriented environments. I suspect his recent foreign origin may have played a role in his early-20s conversion to racial Islam.

    Farrakhan’s immigration story is as follows: His parents are said to have slipped into the USA in the 1920s — if so, it will likely have been either 1920 or 1921, before the strict, race-based immigration restriction laws came in (the one made permanent, famously, in 1924 but largely already in effect in temporary form from 1921).

    Farrakhan’s parents lived in a Caribbean-oriented enclave in New York City in the 1920s. Those were the same circles traveled by Jamaican black-race-nationalist Marcus Garvey at the same time. It’s statistically likely that one or both of Farrakhan’s parents were Garvey supporters, given the huge support he had in the New York enclave in the late 1910s and early 1920s.

    Farrakhan’s father disappeared from the scene soon after Farrakhan’s birth (1933). By the time Farrakhan was school age, his mother had relocated to another Caribbean enclave in Roxbury, Mass., where Farrakhan lived until his graduation from high school (1950). He attended a Black teacher’s college fore three years (1950 to 1953) and by 1954 or so was touring the USA as a traveling musician. His conversion to the Nation of Islam was said to be in 1955 in Chicago.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @Twodees Partain
  113. @Jake

    If you are Mohammedan or of Talmudic Jewish lineage, then your ancestral, religious family values are all about lying and raw power to overcome all ‘other’ peoples.

    It’s refreshing to see anti-Semitism being applied to all the Semites for a change.

    Now, the Somalis don’t look like Semites, but their language is related to that family, and they are in the Arab League.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages#Demographics

  114. @Achmed E. Newman

    Our enemies are not karlin’s enemies. His enemies include us founding stock Americans. The fact his position isn’t being jeered into infamy is an excellent demonstration how much of the alt right is just about bringing down the United States in furtherance or Russian interst.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @216
  115. @Jonathan Mason

    And anyway, if there is any point at all in “diversity” it is to have different points of view represented in public policy,

    Ah, at last, some serious diversity!

    so for that reason alone Omar is useful and it is not useful to discuss whether she is a bigamist.

    Oh wait, wut? Different points of view about whether a politician is a felon or not? No! Not that kind of diversity! Perish the thought!

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  116. @slumber_j

    Al Gore pioneered the use of the term during his 2000 DNA acceptance speech.

  117. J.Ross says:
    @Sam Haysom

    Thanks for taking the time to Correct The Record.

  118. Hibernian says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Are the British Marines just one regiment? If so, wouldn’t they have a few women clerks, mechanics, etc., at regimental HQ? I was of the impression that the British were further gone in political correctness than we are, including militarily.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  119. J.Ross says:
    @gp

    Going uselessly meta for a moment, there has been no coordinated rightist or alternative response to the huge censorship wave. That’s a task we won’t be able to delay or get around. We need something one or two steps better than a blogroll and insultingly inclusive, as neutral or silent as possible regarding its own editorial content, giving users a one-step jumping off point to everything Google wants censored, yet beyond Evil’s reach, and propagated and stored without their resources.

  120. Hibernian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    should Anti-zionism cover all sins? Traffic violations? Tax evasion?

  121. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Omar isn’t “calling out” the Israel lobby for any truly principled (let alone nationalist) reason; rather, she’s just a crude anti-Semite mindlessly repeating things she heard in her insular immigrant community.

    You probably haven’t followed Omar much beyond the Israel stuff but she is probably the most radically pro-migrant, anti-white person in Congress today, if not ever. This bit of potential fraud combined with her whole obnoxious, entitled attitude is an argument against immigration in and of itself. Any nationalist-leaning person who allies himself with Omar due to her stance on Israel is missing the forest for the trees.

    • Agree: Hail
  122. @peterike

    It will all go away when puberty hits.

  123. BB753 says:

    Isn’t immigration reason enough to be stripped of US nationality? If not downright deported, she should at least not have the right to become a representative. Or something. I’d like to know.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @J.Ross
  124. Hail says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    a politically and historically illiterate Muslim

    Indications are that she is sub-literate in general. There are many telltale signs, which are hard or tedious to explain but easy to see. Just listening to her speak for even 60 seconds semi-extemporaneously, it’s really evident.

    Here is one of the top Youtube hits for a search for her name. As a news interview with a sympathetic audience, she was very likely coached on these responses, yet she comes off with this semi-gobbledygook. Like a child trying to imitate the speech of adults.

    Verbatim transcription:

    [1:18]

    Yeah! Um, you know, it’s going to be a really great opportunity for me to represent the values and the interests of people in the fifth [sic], um, we have a huge who community, here, who is [sic] very much invested in making sure that Minnesota and our [sic!] whole country is a welcoming place for refugees and immigrants, and I hope to bring a unique insight to [sic] the lifes [sic] and the struggles that refugees lead, and the kind of opportunities and hope they’re looking for once they come here

    Besides the specific places I’ve marked “[sic],” this whole response is full of several non-sequiturs that get lost in the noise of it all. Low-IQ grammar errors, babble, and non-sequiturs. In just that one 30-second response.

    Remember, these are her polished, practiced responses. When she is a venue in which she has not been coached and is not pitched softballs, she does even worse.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  125. @Anon

    Her district has the most Jews of any Minnesota district. It’s basically Minneapolis.

    If this district has the most Jews, it’s thanks to St Louis Park. I can’t believe Minneapolis has more Jews than St Paul. For one thing, there is no Jewish neighborhood in Minneapolis. There is a huge one, Highland Park, in St Paul.

    • Replies: @Anon
  126. Lot says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    Let’s just make Jeff Bezos dictator of the world then, he can’t be wrong if he’s richer, right?

  127. donut says:
    @Tiny Duck

    I always thought TD was a troll but this sounds like genuine SJW “logic” .

  128. Polynikes says:
    @anon

    Ah…I see. I’m not well versed in the situation. I believe both could be charged with fraud, though.

  129. J.Ross says:
    @Hail

    On that Project Veritas video of a very high level Google evildoer, she says “like” every other word.

  130. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    Do its Jews outnumber Muslims and soy-goyim?

  131. J.Ross says:
    @Lot

    As much as I hate Michael Bloomberg (for his attacks on the Constitution) the consensus is thst he was a pretty good NYC mayor. In Detroit, Dan Gilbert has been the adult in the municipal government room for years. Running a successful company is distinct from running a government, but not perfectly. Zuck breaks this pattern because he’s a clueless spook-cipher and not a real titan of industry.

  132. Lot says:
    @J.Ross

    Gab raised $2 million from angel investors and $1 million from selling “Gab Tokens” cryptocurrency. (Many 2018 press reports said Gab raised $6 or 10 million from selling its “tokens” however the company’s SEC report filed April 2019 says only $1 million. The token does not appear to be traded anywhere I can see.)

    It has about $600,000 left of the $3 million it raised and looks like it will run out of money in about 2 years absent additional funding. At only $250-500k a year to keep it alive, maybe Unz will save it.

  133. BB753 says:
    @BB753

    Auto-correct fail:
    Isn’t immigration FRAUD reason enough to be stripped of US nationality?

    • Replies: @donut
  134. @Cagey Beast

    If I were you I’d worry about your laughable joke of a PM, not some gal from Minnesota.

  135. Jack D says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Poor misunderstood Ernest Zundel, author of The Hitler We Loved. He reminds me of the author of “Springtime for Hitler” in the Producers.

    • Replies: @Hail
  136. @J.Ross

    Going uselessly meta for a moment, there has been no coordinated rightist or alternative response to the huge censorship wave.

    Look at it this way: There’s a giant seesaw called Meta/Physical. The Western zeitgeist is precariously holding in Meta mode. Be ready for the Physical.

  137. Hail says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Poor misunderstood Ernest Zundel

    How would you feel if a hostile group grabbed you, locked you up, revoked your citizenship, and angrily deported you to a foreign country, the courts of which handed you a lengthy prison term (which hastened your death) for comments you made on Unz.com?

    That’s what they did to Ernst Zundel (except the Unz Review part; he published pre-Internet-era paper literature and made pre-Internet public-access videos).

    • Replies: @Lot
  138. @Lot

    The other dude is the one devaluing her achievements and just ripping on her. Nothing wrong with the young girl having big ambitions

  139. Lot says:
    @Hail

    “angrily deported you to a foreign country, the courts of which handed you a lengthy prison term”

    How was his deportation “angry.”

    Did he revoke his German citizenship? If not, it wasn’t a foreign country to him.

    Do the crime, pay the time.

    Also, quite rich for him to demand a free press while saying it shouldn’t exist.

    “We loved Hitler because he was a White Man. He practiced our White virtues of forthright honesty and his actions matched his words. If something was filth, he disposed of it as filth with sanitary thoroughness. He did not enshrine the excrescence of sick minds. He was not ashamed to burn shameful enemy propaganda which was aimed at the destruction of our souls.”

  140. J.Ross says:
    @BB753

    I’d like to see CIA people barred from running for or holding office and instead we suffer an unprecedented number of them in Congress. This will only get worse.

  141. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Isn’t St Paul a high crime ghetto?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  142. guest says:
    @Hail

    What are you on about? No one was talking ties to Historical Black America. I brought up homegrown and African. That’s it.

    Farrakhan was born in this country to legal parents and he traces at least some of his ancestry to Africa. Obviously, he looks kinda mixed but we’re inclusive when it comes to conferring status as black. Nevermind his genes’ layover in the Caribbean.

    • Replies: @Hail
  143. @Anatoly Karlin

    “Bearing that in mind, is it really worth signaling against her?”

    You ain’t from ’round here, are you, son?

  144. 216 says:
    @Sam Haysom

    We have a score to settle from 1588, the Armada will be avenged

    • Replies: @Lot
  145. 216 says:
    @Anonymous

    Omar is not going to lose to a GOP candidate in MN-5.

    There is a chance that she loses to another Dem in the primary.

    There is also a chance that moderate suburban voters in MN-2 and MN-3 might be aghast at Omar and vote GOP in protest.

    Keith Ellison won statewide after being accused of domestic violence, so there’s minimal expectation on my part that anti-Omar backlash would help the GOP at that level.

    It does us no favors to criticize the non-white Dems, when we are white. People respond better to messengers from their own community.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  146. Escher says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Famous in the US I mean.
    RE: Marrying David Bowie, depends on your taste

  147. @Barnard

    Exactly right. Wouldn’t it be delicious if it became public knowledge that Omar’s campaign was financed by jews?

  148. @Achmed E. Newman

    I used my agree tag, so….fuckin’ A.

  149. @Hail

    Damn. Talk about missing the joke…..

  150. @216

    “Keith Ellison won statewide after being accused of domestic violence, so there’s minimal expectation on my part that anti-Omar backlash would help the GOP at that level.”

    Nevermind it helping the GOP. I would just like to see the little communist wog deported.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  151. Lot says:
    @216

    “We have a score to settle from 1588”

    Against the Atlantic Ocean?

  152. @gp

    An email from one of Omar’s people came to light that was very embarrassing to the Strib (it implied that they were used to getting stories quashed on request) so they had to do something.

  153. @Twodees Partain

    Helping (more to the point hurting) the GOP is the only standard that matters.

  154. donut says:
    @BB753

    At this point I think it works either way .

  155. MBlanc46 says:
    @bomag

    My recollection is that it was the Chicago Tribune that led the charge to get the Ryan divorce records unsealed. I have no knowledge of their motives.

  156. Lurker says:
    @El Dato

    editor of the journal Hybrid Pedagogy

    Electric bicycles are certainly a growing sector

  157. Lurker says:
    @Hibernian

    They get round it at the selection stage – long marches, swimming, humping gear etc. As far as I know, no woman has ever passed Royal Marine selection. Or indeed SAS, para etc.

  158. @Anon

    Isn’t St Paul a high crime ghetto?

    Hardly. About 25 murders a year, almost all by acquaintances. Ghettoization and gentrification pretty much balance out. There aren’t that many blacks, the Hmong have calmed down quite a bit, even becoming cops (the new Irish!), and the population is quite mixed. All kinds of Asians live in the city. With the exception of Hindustani Jersey City, it has long been the most Asian major city east of the Rockies.

  159. @Desiderius

    You guys clearly got the most important point of my comment. Which was, basically, that even if we accept the premise that she is attacked solely for her criticism of Israel, this should be supported, because… well, I don’t want to repeat myself. Yes, I shouldn’t have written that it’s kept alive only because of her criticism of Israel, but my points stand anyway.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  160. @Barnard

    See my answer to Desiderius.

    June 25, 2019 at 10:46 am GMT • 100 Words

  161. Hail says: • Website
    @guest

    What are you on about?

    That we have immigration to thank for Farrakhan, among many other Blacks currently in the USA.

    Not slavery, immigration. Not homegrown (in the sense of 18th-century slave stock), but of recent foreign origin.

    I do think this is an important point and worth a long aside about Farrakhan’s immigrant origin. If the early-1920s restriction laws hadn’t come in and stopped that incipient flow, there’d be a whole lot more so-called “homegrown” Blacks today. (This is not, then, meant to contradict your point at all, but to make a separate/tangential but thematically overlapping point.)

    In fifty or sixty years, if someone says Ilhan Omar’s daughter is a “homegrown Black,” they would be equally wrong. She is of immigrant (“refugee”) origin, not a product of the historical USA at all. Her identity is consciously and openly (and aggressively) foreign.

    Farrakhan was born in this country to legal parents

    AFAIK, it’s not clear what, if anything, “legal” vs. “illegal” meant in the 1910s and early 1920s. The principal distinction was citizen vs. non-citizen, and non-citizens were always at risk of deportation in the way what we call “illegals” are (thought to be) today.

    Is it likely that Farrakhan’s foreign-origin legal father (by adoption, as the biological father had pursued the time-honored Subsaharan tradition of disappearing once a baby showed up) was a U.S. citizen at the time of Farrakhan’s birth? I suppose maybe it is, in New York City (not Mississippi) at that time. The adoptive father, Walcott, was also of Carribean origin.

    Here is the first section of a good biographical entry on Farrakhan’s life from Biography Today: Profiles of People of Interest to Young, 1997 [p.26/462 of the pdf]:

    [MORE]

    The beginning of Farrakhan’s life was stormy. Mae Manning married a Jamaican man, Percival Clark, who left her soon afterward. She then got involved with Louis Walcott, from the West Indies. They had a son, Alvan Walcott, who was Farrakhan’s older brother. Then her husband, Percival Clark, briefly returned, and she became pregnant by him. Percival Clark soon left again. Mae was upset about the pregnancy because of her ongoing relationship with Walcott. She and Alvan were both dark-skinned, and she worried that the new baby would be light-skinned like Clark and would reveal her infidelity. She decided to try to abort the baby herself at that time abortion was illegal. Three separate times she tried to abort the pregnancy. “After the third time,” Farrakhan says, “she decided she would go ahead and have the baby and face the consequences.” That baby was Louis Eugene Walcott, later Louis Farrakhan. Louis Walcott, Farrakhan’s de facto step-father, later abandoned the family also.

    YOUTH

    When Farrakhan was just three, the family moved to Boston. He grew up in the Roxbury section of the city, long a Jewish enclave that was just becoming a flourishing West Indian neighborhood. It was a poor area, but families there emphasized hard work, education, and pride in their heritage. Mae Manning Clark, along with many of her relatives, was a follower of Marcus Garvey. A Jamaican who came to the United States in the early 1900s, Garvey founded the Universal Negro Improvement Association, which endorsed dignity, self-reliance, and economic independence for African-Americans. Garvey championed the “Back to Africa” movement, which called on blacks to return to Africa and create an all-black homeland where they could be free of white domination. Many see echoes of these views in those espoused by the Nation of Islam, of which Farrakhan is now the leader.

    This 1997 biography writer confirms my statement earlier about Farrakhan’s parents being likely Garvey supporters, given their origin and place at the time.

  162. @Desiderius

    No one is innocent, either. So prosecution becomes a way to punish political enemies.

  163. @Desiderius

    Because a feudal society would be an improvement over the current one? At least in feudalism, there was recognition that the people at the top were accountable to the serfs, with a cross-hatched system of responsibilities. In our current society, the people at the top are completely unaccountable to anyone.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  164. @Hibernian

    Marine training is …er … tough.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4475034.stm

    “Twelve soldiers who had just finished their 32-week commando training were alleged to have taken part in the initiation ritual, while around 40 other marines – also stripped naked – watched.

    The fight appears to have been “directed” by two non-commissioned officers. One was dressed in a surgeon’s outfit, the other dressed as a schoolgirl.

    The marine who filmed the alleged fight told the newspaper the ritual had been more than drunken antics and that the protagonists were forced to fight in a humiliating manner.

    The images show two naked men in the centre of a large group. At first the pair appear to fight with large mats rolled round their arms.

    But then a man dressed in a blue surgeon-style outfit motions for them to use bare fists.

    When one of the soldiers complains, the man appears to kick him in the face, allegedly leaving him unconscious on the grass.

    The Conservative party’s spokesman for homeland security Patrick Mercer said he had come across this sort of thing occasionally during his 26 years in the Army.

    “I can’t tell you how damaging it is,” he said.

    “Just imagine a young man turning up in his unit and being made to wrestle naked in a field while his non-commissioned officers are dressed up in women’s frillies. I mean, it’s not very dignified stuff, is it?””

  165. peterike says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    I said:

    Young Indian girl huckster claims she will teach a billion kids to code using board games, and also wants to become President.. Indians are mad geniuses at conning stupid white Liberals.

    You said:
    She has revenues exceeding 600 000 K at that young age what do you do?

    So you don’t know what “huckster” means, do you?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anon
  166. @TomSchmidt

    In feudalism the Lords have their own, private, law. This is the literal meaning of the word privilege. Perhaps it would be better than clownworld.

    It would be cowardly at this point to imagine that those are the only options, not to mention wildly unrealistic given the popularity of equality before the law with regular Americans.

  167. @Almost Missouri

    Different points of view about whether a politician is a felon or not? No! Not that kind of diversity! Perish the thought!

    I think we should judge politicians on where they stand on public policy matters, not on whether they are potentially felons. If you take into account accepting bribes from special interests, they all are.

    In the Members of Parliament expenses scandal in the UK a few years ago, it was found that nearly all Members were cheating on their expenses, usually related to their second homes in London, to the extent that if they had all been prosecuted, there would effectively have been no Parliament. In the end just a few (4) egregious offenders were prosecuted and sent to prison. Another got off with an insanity plea.

    The rest had to pay the money back.

    The President of the United States is a most likely a crook, a liar, an adulterer, a bankrupt, a tax cheat, and a tweet addict, and yet many people feel he is perfectly qualified for the position of POTUS because they believe he stands for something they believe in.

    Let’s just let sleeping dogs lie, stop the ad hominem attacks on politicians of all flavors, and judge them as the ballot box jury vote on what public policy they (appear to) stand for.

  168. @Hail

    In fifty or sixty years, if someone says Ilhan Omar’s daughter is a “homegrown Black,” they would be equally wrong. She is of immigrant (“refugee”) origin, not a product of the historical USA at all.

    If she grew up in the US and underwent indoctrination in the US school system and by American TV, then she is an American. If her parents were African, then she is African-American.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  169. @Anatoly Karlin

    If even the “based” Americans who comment on this site can’t grasp this then perhaps they *deserve* to be replaced?

    Nice. You’re working hard to live up to the anti-Jewish libel you’ve built your “career” around at unz.com.

  170. bartolo1 says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Eww? Jamie and Cersi Lannister showed the world how to get over that silly little taboo of incest.

    Rep Omar will never be …………SHAMED.

  171. @peterike

    Indians are mad geniuses at conning stupid white Liberals.

    Mehtaphysics.

  172. Noman says:

    This all about “the Benjamins” and AIPAC’s ownership of the US Congress. Israel First!

    Things which must not be mentioned, as it is specifically illegal to call out the acts of a nationalist racist nation in the Mideast and the adherents of the backwards religion.

    How do “they” get such laws passed in the USA?

  173. Anon[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Come on Karlin, because of Russia’s aggression toward Ukraine we’ve been open borders to Ukrainians who are committing all kinds of crime and killing Americans

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/24/truck-driver-in-fatal-n-h-motorcycle-crash-had-drunken-driving-history/

    SPRINGFIELD — The 23-year-old West Springfield truck driver charged with killing seven bikers Friday in New Hampshire had two drunken driving arrests — one just last month — along with a drug conviction on his extensive record and is now facing the prospect of deportation proceedings, court records show.

    Volodymyr Zhukovskyy, a Ukrainian national with a U.S. green card, is due to be arraigned Tuesday in New Hampshire on seven counts of negligent homicide in the weekend motorcycle disaster — a crash his father said occurred on his son’s third day on the job.

    “I’m sorry for the families,” the defendant’s father, also named Volodymyr Zhukovskyy, told the Herald Monday.

    The father said they are from the Ukraine and his son recently got permanent resident status in the United States. The younger Zhukovskyy’s court file includes a newly filed June 23 letter from an ICE deportation officer requesting details of his 2017 heroin and cocaine convictions.

    The younger Zhukovskyy also has a lengthy driving record, including a drunken driving conviction in 2013 and an arrest after failing a field sobriety test last month in a Walmart parking lot in East Windsor, Conn. He was due back in court for that case Wednesday.

    When asked why Zhukovskyy still had an active Massachusetts driver’s license before the crash, MassDOT spokeswoman Jacquelyn Goddard said in a statement: “The Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles is looking into this matter.” His Massachusetts license was only suspended Monday because he was deemed an “immediate threat,” records show, despite his second OUI arrest on May 11.

    Massachusetts State Police arrested Zhukovskyy Monday morning on a fugitive from justice charge out of New Hampshire. He was turned over to N.H. law enforcement officials.

    State police also confiscated “wax packets containing a residue suspected of being heroin,” when they arrested Zhukovskyy Monday. State police said additional charges may be filed if they test positive for heroin.

  174. @Hail

    If the early-1920s restriction laws hadn’t come in and stopped that incipient flow, there’d be a whole lot more so-called “homegrown” Blacks today

    How? Those laws didn’t apply to countries in the Western Hemisphere. Immigration from Africa didn’t ramp up in 1965; at first, those people headed to the colonial power’s capital.

    How many sub-Saharans came to the U.S. before 1921? All I can think of are Andy Razaf from Madagascar, and Paul Pena’s grandfather from Cape Verde. Those aren’t even on the continent. Razaf’s mother was American, and Mr Pena most likely mulatto.

  175. @Jonathan Mason

    My daughter’s hamster grew up in an aquarium. It didn’t make him a fish.

  176. J.Ross says:
    @peterike

    How perfectly Asian: the refutation to a criminal accusation is a statement of income.

  177. Olorin says:
    @Anonymous

    Cc:’ed no less to Shayna Berkowitz and Phyllis Wiener.

    Here’s other cc: individual, Carla Kjellberg:

    http://www.kjellberglaw.com/about.htm

    “Old broad from Chicago, says what she wants”:

    Learned a few things from her twits, including that the Dems are trotting out Secane Joe, i.e., Joe “No ARs for any of you” Sestak for ’20…

    …and that Robert de Niro is turning into an old zayde.

    Sestak is ghastly. On the good side, he got NUMEC Arlen, aka Magic JFK Bullet Arlen, aka Arlen “Give Israel all the fissionable materials it wants” Spector out of Senate.

    But iirc the Dems poured funding into Sestak’s girl primary opponent, Katie McGinty, who then lost to Pat Toomey…in a race that spend enormous amounts of money, something like $45 million. Think about what $45 million in campaigning buys. I.e., massive amounts of media influence (propaganda), gathered via already established media (private intelligence) relationships.

    We’ll be hearing more about Al Gore protege Globalist Katie methinks. She’s quite the darling of EMILY’s List.

  178. Olorin says:
    @guest

    Just ask Justine Diamond.

    Oh wait. You can’t.

  179. Anon[638] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike

    She has a real product that’s decently engaging.

    A “huckster” wouldn’t have any actual hard product.

  180. Ibound1 says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Trash. Take it back to Russia.

  181. @Anatoly Karlin

    Muh rule of law.

    Yes, my rule of law. A treasure of inestimable price.

    Maybe your Motherland wouldn’t end up on the shag carpet in the back of a conversion van so often if you’d make it yours too. Maybe bring it up with Vlad at the next NKVD cookout.

  182. Awww. Poor wittle snowflake Steve still upset cause Ilhan has bigger balls than all his heroes in the GOP…

    That or he just has a massive crush on her and can’t stop thinking about her. Its OK Steve, I love Ilhan too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  183. @Anonymous

    she is probably the most radically pro-migrant, anti-white person in Congress today, if not ever.

    As far as immigration, how is she any different from any white person in congress? Specifically the GOP? Reagan? Bush? Take a look around buddy. LOL at you retardos. All low IQ 1D thinkers, no wonder they call you dumb goyim. Obama deported more illegals than any prez in history. Obama didn’t ban bump-stocks after Sandy Hook.

    DUMB goyim you are.

  184. FAllison says:

    “Ilhan has shared more than most public officials ever do about the details of her personal life — even when it is personally painful,”

    Somebody needs to ask Blair Hull or Jack Ryan about the accuracy of this.

  185. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    Infibulation and clitoridectomy don’t sound like that much fun to me, but what do I know?

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