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From The Atlantic:

The Next Populist Revolution Will Be Latino

Democrats are betting on a diversifying electorate to secure their party’s future, but second-generation Latinos won’t willingly accept a deeply unequal society.

REIHAN SALAM
SEPTEMBER 2018 ISSUE

Immerse yourself in the pro-immigration literature of Democratic Party thinkers, and you will notice a curious pattern of argument: High levels of immigration have awakened the racism and bigotry that have fueled the rise of right-wing populism, but it is nevertheless best to press forward with the policies that have ostensibly produced this fearsome reaction. Why? Because slowing the pace of immigration would be a callow surrender to bigotry. But also because, in the fullness of time, a unified coalition of college-educated white liberals, African Americans, and working-class immigrants and their descendants will vanquish the aging rump of reactionary whites.

… The promise of the rainbow coalition thus seems ever closer to fruition. Among true believers, every liberal defeat, up to and including the 2016 presidential election, is best understood as little more than the dead-cat bounce of white resentment politics.

Confident pronouncements about the coming triumph of the liberal coalition tend to neglect an awkward question, however. Who will be in control of this bloc when it finally achieves its inevitable victory? Will it be college-educated white liberals, who play such an outsize role in shaping the left’s ideological consensus today, and who dominate the donor base and leadership of the Democratic Party? Or will it be working-class Latinos, whom white liberals are counting on to provide a decisive electoral punch?

Are working-class Latinos in control of all that many Latin American countries?

In the age of Donald Trump, college-educated white liberals consider right-wing white populists in small towns and outer suburbs to be the gravest threat to their values and, sotto voce, their power and influence. Many seem to assume that rainbow liberalism will remain deferential to the demands of avowedly enlightened, well-off people like themselves—yielding a future in which student loans for graduate degrees are forgiven, property values in gentrified urban neighborhoods and fashionable inner suburbs are forever lofty, service-sector wages never quite rise to the point where hiring help becomes unaffordable, and, of course, rural white traditionalists are banished from the public square.

But what if working-class Latinos aren’t especially interested in serving as junior partners in a coalition led by their self-proclaimed white allies? What if they instead support new forms of anti-establishment politics, rooted in grievances and vulnerabilities that place them at odds with liberal white elites?

And that is going to happen how?

Consider a genuinely bright and talented Latino: Lin-Manuel Miranda, composer and star of Hamilton. As far as I can tell he comes from a family with roots in the (perhaps rightwing) nationalist movement in Puerto Rico, the people who feel like they ought to be running the place. But his dad was in New York and became head Puerto Rican vote wrangler for centrist Democratic mayor Ed Koch. Lin-Manuel went to Wesleyan and had the wit to make a hip-hop star out of a reactionary Wall Street lawyer as being the perfect icon for today’s big money yet woke Democrats. Now he’s living a kick-ass life.

So, why be a populist when you can be the toast of Broadway and of Wall Street and of the Beltway?

Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?

And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.

On the other hand, the Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks might eventually turn off lesser elements of their coalition.

 
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  1. Whiskey says: • Website

    Ocasio-Cortez has a plan. Take deplorables stuff now, Bezos stuff later .

    Castro, Hugo Chavez ring any bells? Trouble with Get Whitey is that eventually after kulak they come for big shots .

    Heck there is likely some cartel boss with a long body count thinking just that.

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    Sorry, but historically you've got that quite backwards. Historically they come for the big shots first. Only when they run out of rich bigshots do they come for the kulaks, the slightly less poor.
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  2. European-style coalition legislatures seem to make the most sense in the coming decades. The 2-party system isn’t well suited to our disunited — uh, diverse — future.

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    • Agree: Prester John
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    "The 2-party system isn’t well suited to our disunited — uh, diverse — future."

    A very perspicacious comment.
    , @Paul Jolliffe
    True, but this is not a new idea.

    Pat Buchanan said (after his loss in the Republican primaries in 1996) that by 2008 or 2012 we would see the rise of a third party whose focus rested on immigration restriction. He said that if neither the Democrats nor the GOP would address immigration, then the two-party system would splinter.

    Donald Trump did represent a de facto third party in America in 2016, and immigration was his winning issue.

    Pat Buchanan said it and wrote it decades ago, and some in the MSM have noticed:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/donald-trump-pat-buchanan-republican-america-first-nativist-214221
    , @MBlanc46
    We will have a multiparty system. There will be a rump Repub party for irredentist whites and a factionalized Dem party with the various factions representing the various identity groups, viz., blacks, Mexicans, South Asians, East Asians, single women, lesbians, homosexual men, girls who think they’re boys, boys who think they’re girls, and heaven only knows what new groups that might surface. Watching them pick over the corpse of the nation will be interesting, but not for the faint of heart.
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  3. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

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    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.
     
    That experience (which the larger society insists is always and entirely the fault of the white-male patriarchy, yet which was funded by others) simply ensures that she'll toe the line with even greater fervor, and with the street cred which comes from saying you tried. She ended up working for Bernie.
    , @jim jones
    She is economically illiterate, just like Hugo Chavez:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TYZ6VRNNg
    , @AndrewR
    Her response to Ben Shapiro's offer does not support the claim that she's smart. Maybe just smart enough to fool feminist cat lady ideologues whom no one will shag.
    , @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

     

    Entrepreneurship is massively over hyped.

    The business community, media, academia, and politicians sell this idea that you can start the next Google/Facebook/WhatsApp and then go onto to mega millions (maybe even billions!).

    The reality is that the typical entrepreneur struggles to generate business and often earns a low income. He also works long hours, takes on an enormous number of responsibilities, and has a very erratic schedule. He has to pay for his own healthcare, dental, pension, and even self-employment tax. If he goes bankrupt putting money into his business, nobody is going to bail him out.

    Some entrepreneurs do succeed, but even then long-term stability isn't guaranteed. Many have amazing revenue one year and lackluster revenue the next year.

    Even venture-capital entrepreneurs have a 75% failure rate. If their failure rate is that high (with all the support and funding they're getting), what are your odds of getting rich vs your odds of losing your life savings?

    https://www.inc.com/john-mcdermott/report-3-out-of-4-venture-backed-start-ups-fail.html

    My advice is to not become an entrepreneur. Instead, either go into healthcare (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy) or go work for the govt. Lots of money and stability. You can often have a nice work-life balance too.

    Read this book. The Illusions of Entrepreneurship. I liked it. A realistic look at the reality of entrepreneurship.

    A summary of the book below (from Amazon).


    There are far more entrepreneurs than most people realize. But the failure rate of new businesses is disappointingly high, and the economic impact of most of them disappointingly low, suggesting that enthusiastic would-be entrepreneurs and their investors all too often operate under a false set of assumptions.

    This book shows that the reality of entrepreneurship is decidedly different from the myths that have come to surround it. Scott Shane, a leading expert in entrepreneurial activity in the United States and other countries, draws on the data from extensive research to provide accurate, useful information about who becomes an entrepreneur and why, how businesses are started, which factors lead to success, and which predict a likely failure.

     

    If you have a stable cushy job, don't quit it to become a full-time entrepreneur. Too much risk, too much hard work, and low probability of getting rich.

    A video that most Americans (especially young students) should watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTLJ8ZgfxA
    , @Alec Leamas

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.
     
    I'm not one for underestimating opponents, but what precisely is her political talent? Being a visible minority in a majority-minority district represented by a vestigial white ethnic Democrat who had grown complacent while his eyes were on Congressional leadership? She's better looking than Barbara Mikulski? Voter turnout in the primary was pathetic. If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.

    Ocasio-Cortez is interchangeable with a Democratic general election candidate who could win a General Election in a majority-minority district in any other deep blue urban area. Plop her down in Chicago or a dozen other cities in districts with significant Hispanics and she'd win the General Election as the Democrat no matter what her platform and no matter what zany innumerate idea last popped into her skull and then babbled out of her mouth.

    She wasn't ready for prime time when the media tried to pimp their narrative on her back. She's been exposed. It won't hurt her in her Congressional election(s), but it has probably put a cap on her political career. She'll be a perennial member for as long as it takes her to realize that she can parlay the office into significant personal wealth. If she's half as smart as you're crediting her, she'll worm her way onto an influential committee which will increase her value as a future lobbyist, in spite of what economic positions she takes publicly.
    , @Forbes
    She got brass, but I see no--zero--evidence of her being smart. Error-filled, sound bite banalities don't cut it in my book. I've yet to hear anything out of her mouth that comes close to smart.

    Furthermore, I'd say she's photogenic, not charismatic--charisma requiring more than a smile in front of a camera. Is there such a thing as a charismatic air-head?

    I don't think it's possible to underestimate her. Dumb luck comes to mind. It's possible she's got political potential--she's certainly audacious, which is one step towards the ruthlessness required of most pols.

    The ankle-biting media grabs at any morsel to further The Resistance, she's this season's flavor.

    What is she so far? 0-6 in campaign endorsements? Lead balloon comes to mind.
    , @map
    What is there to understand?

    Occasional-Cocaine is simply a part of the New Democrat Party whose platform is Anti-White Communism.

    Bernie Sanders is the bureaucratic wing of this Anti-White Communist party. He's the guy who redistributes White People wealth in exchange for a cut. Occasional-Cocaine is the recipient wing of this Anti-White Communist party.
    , @JudyBlumeSussman

    She got brass, but I see no--zero--evidence of her being smart. Error-filled, sound bite banalities don't cut it in my book. I've yet to hear anything out of her mouth that comes close to smart.

    Furthermore, I'd say she's photogenic, not charismatic--charisma requiring more than a smile in front of a camera. Is there such a thing as a charismatic air-head?
     
    She's Joe Biden, then.
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  4. J.Ross says: • Website

    Democrats have always had ethnically exploitative political machines (note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss) but what is threatening to happen now with the rise of Ocasio-Yonpaku (LOOK INTO HER EYES) is ethnically exploited political machines, the power supply decoupling from their hookups, leaving their pens, shambling upstairs, and demanding that the adminstrators take a hike.
    How often has this already happened to them? How often would it happen if the Democrats could shake their need to shackle people?
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    Facebook Inc. wants your financial data.
    The social-media giant has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about their customers, including card transactions and checking-account balances, as part of an effort to offer new services to users.

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    note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4_4p15iGlU
    , @Anonymous
    As someone who's never joined Facebook, I find the truly scary thing is that their regular data sweeps of our society's major institutions collect everything about everyone--not just FB users. I delve into the fine print of the agreements when I sign up for any other service, and they all pretty much say 'we can do whatever we want with whatever we find.' If you don't like it, you can always live in a hut up in the mountains somewhere without drinking water.
    , @Jack D
    Ethnic machine politics always included people of the same ethnic group "upstairs" - usually these were earlier immigrants or had been there for a generation or two. In German wards you had a German ward heeler, in Irish wards an Irish war heeler, etc. This was an absolute necessity because the people coming off the boats (even the Irish) often didn't speak English and would not have trusted anyone from a different group anyway. Gradually the foot solidiers worked their way up the pyramid to the very top. The 1st Irish Catholic was placed on the ballot in NYC by Tammany Hall in 1809. William R. Grace, the 1st Irish Catholic mayor, was elected in 1880.

    Of course in machine politics you had to bide your time - you couldn't come out of nowhere and be put on the ballot. Promotion was a reward for many years of loyal service. But eventually the Irish in NY came to control Tammany.
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  5. MattinLA says:

    Steve is right to point out how successful the “ringer” strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

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    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There can't be a 'racial civil war' when only one side's fighting--indeed, when there's only one side. Maybe 75% of white people are co-opted--tools of mass-media entertainment/propaganda--and most of the rest are old and on their way out.

    Democrats are betting on a diversifying electorate to secure their party’s future
     
    "Diversifying" means whites (especially Badwhites) are being marginalized, ultimately exterminated, and the 'tribe' will pick up whatever worthy pieces are left over.
    , @notanon

    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!
     
    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it's not true - increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.

    the older generation may not have noticed this cos they already owned their homes when the process began but their grand children struggling to find a place to start a family is the much more fundamental price they are paying now.
    , @theMann
    "and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase."

    Oh, cheer up. At the end of that war there will be fewer, but better, White people in North America (apologies to Stalin). And no non Whites in North America.

    And when does that war begin? About 5 seconds after debt collapse. So, sooner than we think? (Apologies to Robert Service.)
    , @ben tillman

    Steve is right to point out how successful the “ringer” strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically.
     
    Death is generally considered to be a substantial personal cost, and the actions of white Democrats are designed to wipe people like them off the face of the earth.
    , @MBlanc46
    That’s a fairly accurate account of our recent political past.
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  6. Anon[989] • Disclaimer says:

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    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html

    Indians — from India — coming in from Mexico.

    First of all, how did they get to Mexico? Mexico really needs to tighten up things.

    And there’ve been a lot of non-Mexican, non-Mezoamerican people crossing over the Mexican border lately. This “one weird trick” is getting internationally known.

    Are these Indians coming because they cannot get H-1B visas? Apparently not.

    If you’ve read David Reich, you know that India has thousands of self-contained endogamous ethnic groups. This caste system means life for some is not what it is for others. And then there is the Islam vs. Hindu thing, and Sikhs are hated by everyone. There are also violently opposed political factions, often relating to caste and religion. This is an infinite source of refugees. Camp of the Saints tells us so.

    Apparently these Indian border crossers are claiming refugee status because their lives in India suck because of all this stuff.

    Fearing for his life, Sukhwinder’s parents sold gold and part of their wheat farm to get him a visa and a ticket to Mexico — in hopes that he could seek asylum in the United States. At the end of a five-day journey from Mexico City, he and a handful of other Indian nationals jumped the border wall in Baja California and were arrested by authorities on the U.S. side near Calexico.

    Sukhwinder said he felt forced to leave his home, taking a path that snaked through the United Arab Emirates, Greece and Germany.

    “Asylum seekers are not being granted asylum as easily as they were before,” he said. “I don’t know how likely it is that I will be able to stay.”

    Sikh detainees, as well as those of other faiths, have complained of conditions that don’t allow them to freely practice their religion.

    When you want to be a refugee, and your travel plans take you through Germany, for god’s sake, stay in Germany.

    His mom loves him so much that she sold her gold to protect him. Oh, and also to get “reunified” with him three to five years from now. Family is so important that people will do anything to get unified with their family members, including breaking up a unified family, then applying for reunification. Unification is so much better the second time around.

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    Good thing we have Sessions and Miller in DC.
    , @Anonymous
    Believe you me:

    In the coming century, subcon immigration into the USA will make the Mexican inundation of 1970 onwards look like the proverbial 'vicarage tea party' in comparison.
    , @Anon
    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum

    They run from diversity in India. They run from diversity in Mexico.
    , @anon

    Sukhwinder is out on $10,000 bond while he files for asylum. The decision on whether to accept his account and approve his claim ultimately rests with an immigration judge.
     
    Word's gotten out about the asylum claim as the way in, now the third world horde are all concocting their sob stories to con their way in. Why was this Indian con artist let loose in the country while his asylum claim is being validated? What happened to the Trump negotiation with the new Mexican president that would make these people claim asylum in Mexico instead? I pray they at least put an ankle bracelet on him to track his whereabouts but I know that's just wishful thinking. He's going to disappear into the crowd and never heard from again, until he commits another crime or gets mass amnestied.

    Our immigration system is designed for honest people. 99% of people from the developing world are dishonest, that's why their countries are so F up in the first place. They're making a mockery out of our stupid asylum system.

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  7. The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I’m happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he’d been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous “docudrama” or “reality TV show” about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake “Trump voter” on a panel to show how supposedly Trump’s base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

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    CNN planting a fake “Trump voter” on a panel to show how supposedly Trump’s base is turning against him.
     
    That's how they do it.

    Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW.
     
    Not a problem, since no one watching the show had any clue about that.

    Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.
     
    The war is over. It's just mopping-up operations now.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Tim Howells:

    I too was heartened by Vanity Fair's reporting on Stephen Miller's ongoing successful efforts to curtail immigration. I too had wrongfully feared that SF had been politically marginalized. But VF reports success in his unobtrusive and clandestine efforts.

    Contrast Irishman Bannon's unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller's ilk!
    , @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

     

    That man should have a monument built to him in Washington DC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Q_7Vku2tc
    , @anon
    From the Vanity Fair article on Stephen Miller, we get this piece of gem:

    “By 2020, I would not be surprised if we just don't have this program anymore,” said Jennifer Quigley, an advocacy strategist for refugee protection at Human Rights First.
     
    Who's paying her salary?
    , @anon

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department
     

    Disgustingly partisan hit piece from Vanity Fair on Stephen Miller, typical yellow journalism from the left these days.

    During the refugee admissions debate last September, Hamilton was allied with Miller against then Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Vice President Mike Pence, among others, including Elaine Duke, the No. 2 official at D.H.S. at the time.
     
    I always knew Mike Pence was a RINO. I'm sure he was instrumental in persuading Trump to keep on that other refugee loving RINO, Paul Ryan, who not only approved but expanded Obama's refugee resettlement program to siphon billions to his beloved Catholic and Lutheran churches for the resettlement of hundreds of thousands of muslim refugees.

    Keep up the good work Stephen Miller! Now please do the same to the OPT, H1b and EB5 visas which are killing job prospects for American graduates. And please make sure Trump does not sign the border bill that includes the elimination of per country limit on green cards drafted by the treasonous rat Kevin Yoder.

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  8. While I’m all for “vanquishing aging white rump”, this guy’s clueless. The majority will recreate the politics of their or their parents former homeland just as they will recreate that society. Hispanics don’t assimilate much so we can determine that, just as in Latin America, a fascist elite will eternally battle a disgruntled Marxist elite for dominance. What’s left of the non Hispanic whites should trade the US for Cuba and/or Puerto Rico to save themselves much grief. Also, a dead cat has more bounce in it than you’d think.

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    just as in Latin America, a fascist elite will eternally battle a disgruntled Marxist elite for dominance.

    There is no fascist elite in Latin America. There have been fascist strains in the political thinking of about a half-dozen countries, but even these lasted only a modest run of years.. Marxism is pretty watered-down in the electoral politics of most Latin American countries, where it's of much significance at all.
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  9. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Latinos won’t accept a deeply unequal society? Really? Is that why Latin America is the most equal place on Earth?

    When will Ann Coulter or someone come forward and wage war on the bogus term ‘Latino’. There are some very rich and successful Latinos, the real ones, in the US. Cubans and white Mexicans seem have it pretty good.

    We need to start a campaign to get rid of a comprehensive meaning of ‘Latino’. So many are mestizo who are mostly brown or they are all brown.

    Another thing. When someone is part Anglo and part African, he is called black than anglo(or white).
    But even when someone is more brown than white or even all brown, he is called ‘latino’.
    It is ridiculous.

    Also, there are few things as sickening to me as white Conquis in the US acting like they are POC representatives of browns. They can go to hell.

    During the Cold War, American Right saw Latin whites as hierarchical allies against communism and color. But such alliance hasn’t been feasible in the US ever since white Latinos got to pose as POC. And of course, white Latinos pull the same shit in Latin America. Afraid of being singled out as more successful and rich, they push the myth that EVERYONE is equally mixed in places like Mexico and Venezula. And just like Jews invoke ‘white privilege’ to distract people from Jewish power, Latin whites invoke ‘gringo’ and ‘yanqui’ to blame all ‘racismo’ and injustice on American whites. Enough is enough. These weasly Latin whites need a kick in the ass.

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    Also, there are few things as sickening to me as white Conquis in the US acting like they are POC representatives of browns. They can go to hell.

    Add 'blacks' who are as little as an eighth black and grew up rich to boot appointing themselves representatives of actual blacks. Ever notice how few full-black politicians there actually are?

    'Black power' is a gravy train for mulattoes and octoroons.
    , @Iberiano
    Well stated. The term Latino and Hispanic have simply been morphed and ret-conned give this sense that "it's always been the case" that everyone who is remotely related to Spanish culture is not only the same (yet, "we are so different and diverse"), but also that we are all oppressed minorities. HACU and other Hispanic/Latino affinity groups are packed with white Hispanics who grew up leading very middle class/white lives. Here in California it's very true (as in NM, where it is even more obvious).
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    On the Left Coast the “next revolution,” i.e. the main electoral competition for baizuo standard-bearers, seems to be coming from non-Muslim SxSW Asian machers. Feel like they should be running the place? Check. Deft with super-specific demagoguery glazed with Get Honkies icing? Check. Populist working-class salt of the earth? Ummm wellll…

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    The only thing I like about Cortez is that she spells her conquistador name the way we all did in school back in the 20th c.

    Nowadays — for whatever batshit PC reason — the conquistador name is being spelled Cortes.

    But she’s a flash en el pan. She won a low turnout primary. Her policies have few supporters. She’s shallow in the interviews. Short fringe career ahead.

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    I hope she's another Sanders, she'll be fun but unable to damage anything. And as long as the bakshiysh flows, why would she lose?
    , @RadicalCenter
    She can achieve seniority in her party and in Congress by winning election a dozen times in her safe nonwhite, antiwhite district. With seniority comes better committee assignments, more fundraising, and thereby more means of gaining free publicity.

    Don’t write her off.

    And by the way, saying that her ideas have no supporters, is wishful thinking. Her ideas have tens of millions of supporters in the USA alone. They might be good ideas, mostly they seem to be extreme ideas that have failed, but either way the ideas definitely have support.

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  12. @J.Ross
    Democrats have always had ethnically exploitative political machines (note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss) but what is threatening to happen now with the rise of Ocasio-Yonpaku (LOOK INTO HER EYES) is ethnically exploited political machines, the power supply decoupling from their hookups, leaving their pens, shambling upstairs, and demanding that the adminstrators take a hike.
    How often has this already happened to them? How often would it happen if the Democrats could shake their need to shackle people?
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    OT -- Mark Zuckerberg, concerned that he is not doing enough to be literally Satanically evil, has inquired about the prices of high end Christian artefacts he could invert or defile.
    Facebook to Banks: Give Us Your Data, We’ll Give You Our Users
    Facebook has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about customers as it seeks to boost user engagement
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-to-banks-give-us-your-data-well-give-you-our-users-1533564049
    Facebook Inc. wants your financial data.
    The social-media giant has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about their customers, including card transactions and checking-account balances, as part of an effort to offer new services to users.

    note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss

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    This video has to be watched.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJ_OOKQVrU
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  13. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    That experience (which the larger society insists is always and entirely the fault of the white-male patriarchy, yet which was funded by others) simply ensures that she’ll toe the line with even greater fervor, and with the street cred which comes from saying you tried. She ended up working for Bernie.

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    You get exactly zero street cred from anybody, least of all from Bernie Sanders, for trying and failing as an entrepreneur. Failing as an entrepreneur is only cool if you become a super successful entrepreneur later. No one in America respects you for failing at business. And my point was that it made perfect sense that she gravitated toward Bernie, rather than neoliberal Hillary, after seeing how hard it can be to make it in America. Like her, Bernie has tried and failed at stuff, struggled, and been low-income.

    No one respects him for being poor in the past -- that's not my point -- but it gives him authority and authenticity when talking about economic issues that pols like Hillary, the late Jack Kemp, Condi Rice, etc. never had. He knows a lower capital gains tax rate, or cutting regulations, aren't going to make it easier for some struggling carpenter in Vermont to get his kid's cavities filled. He knows urban enterprise zones aren't going to bring prosperity to black America via hair braiding shops.

    Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no what does bring broad prosperity, but they know the pre-Trump bipartisan establishment was full of it, which is the beginning of knowledge.
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  14. jim jones says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    She is economically illiterate, just like Hugo Chavez:

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    She is economically illiterate
     
    That makes her not only perfect for The Current Year,
    but perfect for Congress too. She'll fit right in.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I made it a minute and a quarter into that dork's video. He's focusing on some silly mistakes she's made (e.g., saying 40% of Americans make less than $20k per year, when it's actually ~36% of wage earners -- gotcha!) while ignoring her broader point: most Americans aren't doing well financially.

    She just won her first-ever primary election, is 28 years old, and ~6 months out from being a bartender. Nitpicking her isn't going to stop her.
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  15. @JohnnyWalker123

    note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4_4p15iGlU

    This video has to be watched.

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  16. AndrewR says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    Her response to Ben Shapiro’s offer does not support the claim that she’s smart. Maybe just smart enough to fool feminist cat lady ideologues whom no one will shag.

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    He’s a Harvard Law alumnus descended from >50 generations of Talmudic debaters, and he’s not running against her in November. It would have been stupid to take him up on the offer.
    , @kissinger
    It was a very smart response. If she won the debate, it wouldn't help her career significantly. However, if she lost the debate to a very experienced debater, then it would have been quite bad for her reputation.

    The key to success in politics is to avoid low reward, high risk battles.
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  17. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Democrats have always had ethnically exploitative political machines (note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss) but what is threatening to happen now with the rise of Ocasio-Yonpaku (LOOK INTO HER EYES) is ethnically exploited political machines, the power supply decoupling from their hookups, leaving their pens, shambling upstairs, and demanding that the adminstrators take a hike.
    How often has this already happened to them? How often would it happen if the Democrats could shake their need to shackle people?
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    Facebook to Banks: Give Us Your Data, We’ll Give You Our Users
    Facebook has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about customers as it seeks to boost user engagement
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-to-banks-give-us-your-data-well-give-you-our-users-1533564049
    Facebook Inc. wants your financial data.
    The social-media giant has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about their customers, including card transactions and checking-account balances, as part of an effort to offer new services to users.

    As someone who’s never joined Facebook, I find the truly scary thing is that their regular data sweeps of our society’s major institutions collect everything about everyone–not just FB users. I delve into the fine print of the agreements when I sign up for any other service, and they all pretty much say ‘we can do whatever we want with whatever we find.’ If you don’t like it, you can always live in a hut up in the mountains somewhere without drinking water.

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    Really, you can’t live without Facebook? We do.
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  18. Maus says:

    Bien venidos los castenos. Y entonces la Verdad golpea el pared…
    I am a smart gringo. Yo voy ser el jefe.
    Los Mexicanos son brutos. They will be the peons. If I can tolerate their abysmal culture, they can be ruled en el nueve Mexifornia.

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  19. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    It will happen in the same way the various processor companies that gave birth to Silicon Valley split off from Bill Shockley: young, talented, energetic people gradually become aware of their own strength within an organization, get tired of having to say and do things they don’t agree with and eventually decide to try to take over the whole racket themselves. Plus I don’t see any way that e.g. Ocasio-Cortez ever gets embraced by the establishment proper: they’re clearly shit-scared of her and have been working overtime to discredit her and her movement. People like Manuel-Miranda or Obama have an ingratiating manner which allowed them to work the white liberal establishment with ease; that’s one way to obtain power, but it’s not the only way. This isn’t the 60s. The political establishment in this country are suffering an ongoing crisis of credibility, and the market for demagogues has never been hotter. Mainstream Republicans hated Trump too; that just made his supporters love him more.

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  20. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @MattinLA
    Steve is right to point out how successful the "ringer" strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

    There can’t be a ‘racial civil war’ when only one side’s fighting–indeed, when there’s only one side. Maybe 75% of white people are co-opted–tools of mass-media entertainment/propaganda–and most of the rest are old and on their way out.

    Democrats are betting on a diversifying electorate to secure their party’s future

    “Diversifying” means whites (especially Badwhites) are being marginalized, ultimately exterminated, and the ‘tribe’ will pick up whatever worthy pieces are left over.

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  21. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tim Howells
    The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I'm happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he'd been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous "docudrama" or "reality TV show" about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake "Trump voter" on a panel to show how supposedly Trump's base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

    CNN planting a fake “Trump voter” on a panel to show how supposedly Trump’s base is turning against him.

    That’s how they do it.

    Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW.

    Not a problem, since no one watching the show had any clue about that.

    Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    The war is over. It’s just mopping-up operations now.

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    If we are marked to die...
    , @Tim Howells

    The war is over. It’s just mopping-up operations now.
     
    Who won?
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  22. And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.

    There’s tons of them with charisma. Just not the kind of charisma that plays on television, (cool, collected charisma like Senator Obama’s c. 2008).

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    There’s tons of them with charisma. Just not the kind of charisma that plays on television, (cool, collected charisma like Senator Obama’s c. 2008).
     
    It depends on what you mean by "tons". There are lots of Mexican/Central American working class people, but only a tiny percentage have notable charisma. Mexican mestizos and Indios are BORING.
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  23. Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?

    “Ends in a vowel”: that’s Italians.

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    “Ends in a vowel”: that’s Italians.
     
    "Ends in a 'z'" would be more apt.
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  24. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @jim jones
    She is economically illiterate, just like Hugo Chavez:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TYZ6VRNNg

    She is economically illiterate

    That makes her not only perfect for The Current Year,
    but perfect for Congress too. She’ll fit right in.

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  25. Anonym says:

    Lin-Manuel went to Wesleyan and had the wit to make a hip-hop star out of a reactionary Wall Street lawyer as being the perfect icon for today’s big money yet woke Democrats. Now he’s living a kick-ass life.

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  26. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    The only thing I like about Cortez is that she spells her conquistador name the way we all did in school back in the 20th c.

    Nowadays -- for whatever batshit PC reason -- the conquistador name is being spelled Cortes.

    But she's a flash en el pan. She won a low turnout primary. Her policies have few supporters. She's shallow in the interviews. Short fringe career ahead.

    I hope she’s another Sanders, she’ll be fun but unable to damage anything. And as long as the bakshiysh flows, why would she lose?

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  27. The rainbow coalition unites in its’ hatred of whitey. Goofy Cortez, Stupid Ted Lieu, Slut Kamala Harris, Mad Maxine Waters, Hateful Chuck Schumer…….browns, yellows, blacks, and Jews all hate whitey. From the womb they pronounce, “I hate white people.”
    It’s in their shitty DNA.
    Hate is what energizes them.
    Look at Antifa. Antifa is part of the Democratic Party.
    And nothing is being done. They openly make threats against the President of the United States and nothing is done. That’s a FELONY.
    And white people just don’t get what’s happening. Asleep at the wheel as our nation is being taken from us and WRECKED by a hostile tribe of parasites.

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  28. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @jim jones
    She is economically illiterate, just like Hugo Chavez:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TYZ6VRNNg

    I made it a minute and a quarter into that dork’s video. He’s focusing on some silly mistakes she’s made (e.g., saying 40% of Americans make less than $20k per year, when it’s actually ~36% of wage earners — gotcha!) while ignoring her broader point: most Americans aren’t doing well financially.

    She just won her first-ever primary election, is 28 years old, and ~6 months out from being a bartender. Nitpicking her isn’t going to stop her.

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    I don't know if it is in that clip, but she did claim on Teevee that the unemployment rate is currently low because many people are working two jobs. That is completely stupid.
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  29. BenKenobi says:
    @Anonymous

    CNN planting a fake “Trump voter” on a panel to show how supposedly Trump’s base is turning against him.
     
    That's how they do it.

    Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW.
     
    Not a problem, since no one watching the show had any clue about that.

    Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.
     
    The war is over. It's just mopping-up operations now.

    If we are marked to die…

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  30. @Anonymous

    CNN planting a fake “Trump voter” on a panel to show how supposedly Trump’s base is turning against him.
     
    That's how they do it.

    Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW.
     
    Not a problem, since no one watching the show had any clue about that.

    Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.
     
    The war is over. It's just mopping-up operations now.

    The war is over. It’s just mopping-up operations now.

    Who won?

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    I'll give you a hint. You're reading this on a tiny, fringe website subjected to constant DDoS attacks, rather than on the site of the New York Times, Facebook or CNN.
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  31. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.
     
    That experience (which the larger society insists is always and entirely the fault of the white-male patriarchy, yet which was funded by others) simply ensures that she'll toe the line with even greater fervor, and with the street cred which comes from saying you tried. She ended up working for Bernie.

    You get exactly zero street cred from anybody, least of all from Bernie Sanders, for trying and failing as an entrepreneur. Failing as an entrepreneur is only cool if you become a super successful entrepreneur later. No one in America respects you for failing at business. And my point was that it made perfect sense that she gravitated toward Bernie, rather than neoliberal Hillary, after seeing how hard it can be to make it in America. Like her, Bernie has tried and failed at stuff, struggled, and been low-income.

    No one respects him for being poor in the past — that’s not my point — but it gives him authority and authenticity when talking about economic issues that pols like Hillary, the late Jack Kemp, Condi Rice, etc. never had. He knows a lower capital gains tax rate, or cutting regulations, aren’t going to make it easier for some struggling carpenter in Vermont to get his kid’s cavities filled. He knows urban enterprise zones aren’t going to bring prosperity to black America via hair braiding shops.

    Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no what does bring broad prosperity, but they know the pre-Trump bipartisan establishment was full of it, which is the beginning of knowledge.

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    "Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no (sic)what does bring broad prosperity... ."

    It was ever thus. There's no free lunch in this life, though Bernie, Cortez etal. try to peddle that line in consideration for votes and a life on the public's nickel.. The whole basis of economics is the allocation of limited resources. And all resources, natural or otherwise, are limited. That's the way it is. All that's left is a debate over how these resources will be distributed. Socialism never worked on anything other than on the micro level. Whenever it was tried on the macro scale the results were catastrophic. Capitalism may suck but it's the best we can do for now. A O-C, Bernie---deal with it!
    , @Bragadocious
    What did Bernie ever do entrepreneurially? Did he ever try working with his hands? He's been a community organizer since 1962.

    Not disagreeing with you, but let's not let Bernie define the terms here. The guy's a Bolshevik parasite.
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  32. @Anon
    OT

    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html

    Indians -- from India -- coming in from Mexico.

    First of all, how did they get to Mexico? Mexico really needs to tighten up things.

    And there've been a lot of non-Mexican, non-Mezoamerican people crossing over the Mexican border lately. This "one weird trick" is getting internationally known.

    Are these Indians coming because they cannot get H-1B visas? Apparently not.

    If you've read David Reich, you know that India has thousands of self-contained endogamous ethnic groups. This caste system means life for some is not what it is for others. And then there is the Islam vs. Hindu thing, and Sikhs are hated by everyone. There are also violently opposed political factions, often relating to caste and religion. This is an infinite source of refugees. Camp of the Saints tells us so.

    Apparently these Indian border crossers are claiming refugee status because their lives in India suck because of all this stuff.

    Fearing for his life, Sukhwinder’s parents sold gold and part of their wheat farm to get him a visa and a ticket to Mexico — in hopes that he could seek asylum in the United States. At the end of a five-day journey from Mexico City, he and a handful of other Indian nationals jumped the border wall in Baja California and were arrested by authorities on the U.S. side near Calexico.

    Sukhwinder said he felt forced to leave his home, taking a path that snaked through the United Arab Emirates, Greece and Germany.

    “Asylum seekers are not being granted asylum as easily as they were before,” he said. “I don’t know how likely it is that I will be able to stay.”

    Sikh detainees, as well as those of other faiths, have complained of conditions that don’t allow them to freely practice their religion.

     

    When you want to be a refugee, and your travel plans take you through Germany, for god's sake, stay in Germany.

    His mom loves him so much that she sold her gold to protect him. Oh, and also to get "reunified" with him three to five years from now. Family is so important that people will do anything to get unified with their family members, including breaking up a unified family, then applying for reunification. Unification is so much better the second time around.

    Good thing we have Sessions and Miller in DC.

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  33. Dan Hayes says:
    @Tim Howells
    The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I'm happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he'd been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous "docudrama" or "reality TV show" about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake "Trump voter" on a panel to show how supposedly Trump's base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

    Tim Howells:

    I too was heartened by Vanity Fair‘s reporting on Stephen Miller’s ongoing successful efforts to curtail immigration. I too had wrongfully feared that SF had been politically marginalized. But VF reports success in his unobtrusive and clandestine efforts.

    Contrast Irishman Bannon’s unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller’s ilk!

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    Irishmen tend to play to stereotype.

    Andrew Breitbart.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4od4QQVK1o

    Bill O'Reilly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlV5QFGUjw

    Lawrence O'Donnell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3441QFnjGJI
    , @Pericles

    Contrast Irishman Bannon’s unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller’s ilk!

     

    What our movement needs is fewer unsuccessful Whites and more, more, more Jews! (musical number begins) Wonderful! ... beautiful! ... generous! ... Jews!

    (It goes on for a while.)
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  34. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT

    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html

    Indians -- from India -- coming in from Mexico.

    First of all, how did they get to Mexico? Mexico really needs to tighten up things.

    And there've been a lot of non-Mexican, non-Mezoamerican people crossing over the Mexican border lately. This "one weird trick" is getting internationally known.

    Are these Indians coming because they cannot get H-1B visas? Apparently not.

    If you've read David Reich, you know that India has thousands of self-contained endogamous ethnic groups. This caste system means life for some is not what it is for others. And then there is the Islam vs. Hindu thing, and Sikhs are hated by everyone. There are also violently opposed political factions, often relating to caste and religion. This is an infinite source of refugees. Camp of the Saints tells us so.

    Apparently these Indian border crossers are claiming refugee status because their lives in India suck because of all this stuff.

    Fearing for his life, Sukhwinder’s parents sold gold and part of their wheat farm to get him a visa and a ticket to Mexico — in hopes that he could seek asylum in the United States. At the end of a five-day journey from Mexico City, he and a handful of other Indian nationals jumped the border wall in Baja California and were arrested by authorities on the U.S. side near Calexico.

    Sukhwinder said he felt forced to leave his home, taking a path that snaked through the United Arab Emirates, Greece and Germany.

    “Asylum seekers are not being granted asylum as easily as they were before,” he said. “I don’t know how likely it is that I will be able to stay.”

    Sikh detainees, as well as those of other faiths, have complained of conditions that don’t allow them to freely practice their religion.

     

    When you want to be a refugee, and your travel plans take you through Germany, for god's sake, stay in Germany.

    His mom loves him so much that she sold her gold to protect him. Oh, and also to get "reunified" with him three to five years from now. Family is so important that people will do anything to get unified with their family members, including breaking up a unified family, then applying for reunification. Unification is so much better the second time around.

    Believe you me:

    In the coming century, subcon immigration into the USA will make the Mexican inundation of 1970 onwards look like the proverbial ‘vicarage tea party’ in comparison.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Sorry, but I just can't erase from my mind the image of the late, great English comedian, Dick Emery's, comic Anglican vicar with the big teeth.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Probably not, because of the global rise of the anti-immigration right.

    However, in the absence of any anti-immigration movement, then yes. Subcon migration has shot up a lot in the last decade, but the doors are closing in a lot of places. This is sort of the tail end time for mass migration.

    Mexicans were lucky to start flooding in back when hardly anybody was thinking about immigration.
    , @anon
    But hey, as the liberals insist on telling us, these are the "best and brightest", "highly skilled" here to benefit our economy. Shouldn't we let them go to Mexico instead, since Mexico's economy obviously needs more help than ours? Or how about just keeping them in India, which needs them even more than Mexico?
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  35. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tim Howells

    The war is over. It’s just mopping-up operations now.
     
    Who won?

    I’ll give you a hint. You’re reading this on a tiny, fringe website subjected to constant DDoS attacks, rather than on the site of the New York Times, Facebook or CNN.

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  36. The problem with an alliance of college education white liberals and NAMs is that many college educated liberals don’t really benefit from high taxes like NAMs do. They tend to vote Democrat for social reasons rather than economic ones. If they raise taxes a lot, some college educated whites will abandon them, and college educated whites are valuable voters in key swing states. In contrast, NAM voters tend to be stuck in Democrat ghettos like Southern California, so they can safely be taken for granted.

    Perhaps the best line of attack for the Dems is to promise to cut defence spending and be more left wing on foreign policy. The Republicans are forced into high defence spending because so many southern American whites depend economically on the military industrial complex, but the Dems alliance of urban voters don’t really benefit from it.

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  37. “On the other hand, the Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks might eventually turn off lesser elements of their coalition.”

    Such as one named Reihan Salam. What kind of a name is Salam anyway, because it sure doesn’t sound Hispanic.

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  38. @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    Entrepreneurship is massively over hyped.

    The business community, media, academia, and politicians sell this idea that you can start the next Google/Facebook/WhatsApp and then go onto to mega millions (maybe even billions!).

    The reality is that the typical entrepreneur struggles to generate business and often earns a low income. He also works long hours, takes on an enormous number of responsibilities, and has a very erratic schedule. He has to pay for his own healthcare, dental, pension, and even self-employment tax. If he goes bankrupt putting money into his business, nobody is going to bail him out.

    Some entrepreneurs do succeed, but even then long-term stability isn’t guaranteed. Many have amazing revenue one year and lackluster revenue the next year.

    Even venture-capital entrepreneurs have a 75% failure rate. If their failure rate is that high (with all the support and funding they’re getting), what are your odds of getting rich vs your odds of losing your life savings?

    https://www.inc.com/john-mcdermott/report-3-out-of-4-venture-backed-start-ups-fail.html

    My advice is to not become an entrepreneur. Instead, either go into healthcare (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy) or go work for the govt. Lots of money and stability. You can often have a nice work-life balance too.

    Read this book. The Illusions of Entrepreneurship. I liked it. A realistic look at the reality of entrepreneurship.

    A summary of the book below (from Amazon).

    There are far more entrepreneurs than most people realize. But the failure rate of new businesses is disappointingly high, and the economic impact of most of them disappointingly low, suggesting that enthusiastic would-be entrepreneurs and their investors all too often operate under a false set of assumptions.

    This book shows that the reality of entrepreneurship is decidedly different from the myths that have come to surround it. Scott Shane, a leading expert in entrepreneurial activity in the United States and other countries, draws on the data from extensive research to provide accurate, useful information about who becomes an entrepreneur and why, how businesses are started, which factors lead to success, and which predict a likely failure.

    If you have a stable cushy job, don’t quit it to become a full-time entrepreneur. Too much risk, too much hard work, and low probability of getting rich.

    A video that most Americans (especially young students) should watch.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I’m familiar with Scott Shane. He makes great points. I wrote about him on my old blog 10 years ago: http://thehackensack.blogspot.com/2008/12/questioning-conventional-wisdom-about.html?m=1

    Another point in that post, made by a professor in Europe I quoted there, is that countries get richer by channeling resources into successful small and mid-sized companies, not start-ups. Encouraging everyone to start a business is the capitalist equivalent of Mao’s backyard iron smelters.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree with you. The taxing authorities alone can sink you, not with taxes but with the cost of compliance. Which is nearly as great when you have two employees as when you have 200. Only, you can't amortize the cost over three employees very easily. I got audited nearly every year by state, federal, and (most often) local jurisdictions and never owed anything substantial (I was always careful). But it took hundreds of hours each year to satisfy the bureaucrats, who get paid the same no matter how many hours it takes, and who certainly couldn't care less if you're run out of business in the process.

    People will say that the obvious solution is to pay accountants, but that costs too (obviously) and not so obviously it's still a time sink because you have to review their work, which is often riddled with errors. My friend whose net worth is in nine figures has never been audited a single time in his life. They know full well he can and will throw teams of very expensive lawyers at them and tie them up. So they don't dare.
    , @Anonymous
    If you want to make it as an entrepreneur you either have to to be given opportunities based on elite education and brains or you have to be willing to work 10 times harder than everyone else and hustle 24/7. Few people are willing to do this. Here’s a guy now worth nine figures who had to do the latter:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8rwgdhib-M
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  39. @Dan Hayes
    Tim Howells:

    I too was heartened by Vanity Fair's reporting on Stephen Miller's ongoing successful efforts to curtail immigration. I too had wrongfully feared that SF had been politically marginalized. But VF reports success in his unobtrusive and clandestine efforts.

    Contrast Irishman Bannon's unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller's ilk!

    Irishmen tend to play to stereotype.

    Andrew Breitbart.

    Bill O’Reilly.

    Lawrence O’Donnell.

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  40. @Tim Howells
    The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I'm happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he'd been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous "docudrama" or "reality TV show" about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake "Trump voter" on a panel to show how supposedly Trump's base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    That man should have a monument built to him in Washington DC.

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    When you consider what's at stake, the money should be spent to get the guy some hair transplants. He'll take some ribbing, but then so did Wayne Rooney. So what? Looks matter more than ever now. Hold your hand over his forehead in that photo. He almost looks like Macron.
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  41. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Believe you me:

    In the coming century, subcon immigration into the USA will make the Mexican inundation of 1970 onwards look like the proverbial 'vicarage tea party' in comparison.

    Sorry, but I just can’t erase from my mind the image of the late, great English comedian, Dick Emery’s, comic Anglican vicar with the big teeth.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Does that peculiarly American branch of the Anglican communion - The Episcopalian Church - honor that ancient Anglican rite and tradition of the 'vicarage tea party', does it indeed have such establishments as 'vicarages' ?
    Do American iStevers have a clue about what I am rabbiting * on about?

    * 'to rabbit' Cockney English for yammering on about something. Rhyming slang, apparently derived from 'rabbit and pork' - 'talk'.
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  42. @Anonymous
    Believe you me:

    In the coming century, subcon immigration into the USA will make the Mexican inundation of 1970 onwards look like the proverbial 'vicarage tea party' in comparison.

    Probably not, because of the global rise of the anti-immigration right.

    However, in the absence of any anti-immigration movement, then yes. Subcon migration has shot up a lot in the last decade, but the doors are closing in a lot of places. This is sort of the tail end time for mass migration.

    Mexicans were lucky to start flooding in back when hardly anybody was thinking about immigration.

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    No.

    You just wait and see.

    I'm more confident in this prophecy than I am in any other facet of life.
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  43. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @AndrewR
    Her response to Ben Shapiro's offer does not support the claim that she's smart. Maybe just smart enough to fool feminist cat lady ideologues whom no one will shag.

    He’s a Harvard Law alumnus descended from >50 generations of Talmudic debaters, and he’s not running against her in November. It would have been stupid to take him up on the offer.

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    It's the way she turned him down, and not the fact that she turned him down, that shows she isn't that bright.
    , @AndrewR
    Perhaps. It was much stupider of her to compare his offer to catcalling. She now looks dumber than she possibly could have looked after a fair debate.
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  44. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Probably not, because of the global rise of the anti-immigration right.

    However, in the absence of any anti-immigration movement, then yes. Subcon migration has shot up a lot in the last decade, but the doors are closing in a lot of places. This is sort of the tail end time for mass migration.

    Mexicans were lucky to start flooding in back when hardly anybody was thinking about immigration.

    No.

    You just wait and see.

    I’m more confident in this prophecy than I am in any other facet of life.

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  45. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

     

    Entrepreneurship is massively over hyped.

    The business community, media, academia, and politicians sell this idea that you can start the next Google/Facebook/WhatsApp and then go onto to mega millions (maybe even billions!).

    The reality is that the typical entrepreneur struggles to generate business and often earns a low income. He also works long hours, takes on an enormous number of responsibilities, and has a very erratic schedule. He has to pay for his own healthcare, dental, pension, and even self-employment tax. If he goes bankrupt putting money into his business, nobody is going to bail him out.

    Some entrepreneurs do succeed, but even then long-term stability isn't guaranteed. Many have amazing revenue one year and lackluster revenue the next year.

    Even venture-capital entrepreneurs have a 75% failure rate. If their failure rate is that high (with all the support and funding they're getting), what are your odds of getting rich vs your odds of losing your life savings?

    https://www.inc.com/john-mcdermott/report-3-out-of-4-venture-backed-start-ups-fail.html

    My advice is to not become an entrepreneur. Instead, either go into healthcare (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy) or go work for the govt. Lots of money and stability. You can often have a nice work-life balance too.

    Read this book. The Illusions of Entrepreneurship. I liked it. A realistic look at the reality of entrepreneurship.

    A summary of the book below (from Amazon).


    There are far more entrepreneurs than most people realize. But the failure rate of new businesses is disappointingly high, and the economic impact of most of them disappointingly low, suggesting that enthusiastic would-be entrepreneurs and their investors all too often operate under a false set of assumptions.

    This book shows that the reality of entrepreneurship is decidedly different from the myths that have come to surround it. Scott Shane, a leading expert in entrepreneurial activity in the United States and other countries, draws on the data from extensive research to provide accurate, useful information about who becomes an entrepreneur and why, how businesses are started, which factors lead to success, and which predict a likely failure.

     

    If you have a stable cushy job, don't quit it to become a full-time entrepreneur. Too much risk, too much hard work, and low probability of getting rich.

    A video that most Americans (especially young students) should watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTLJ8ZgfxA

    I’m familiar with Scott Shane. He makes great points. I wrote about him on my old blog 10 years ago: http://thehackensack.blogspot.com/2008/12/questioning-conventional-wisdom-about.html?m=1

    Another point in that post, made by a professor in Europe I quoted there, is that countries get richer by channeling resources into successful small and mid-sized companies, not start-ups. Encouraging everyone to start a business is the capitalist equivalent of Mao’s backyard iron smelters.

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  46. Jason Liu says:

    If the white right falls it’ll just be replaced by a multicultural right. Do the liberals think there’s no right wing in Brazil? If anything the Latin American right is much more aggressive than the American right, which seems comprised of old white dads who stupidly engage their opponents in good faith.

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  47. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

     

    That man should have a monument built to him in Washington DC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Q_7Vku2tc

    When you consider what’s at stake, the money should be spent to get the guy some hair transplants. He’ll take some ribbing, but then so did Wayne Rooney. So what? Looks matter more than ever now. Hold your hand over his forehead in that photo. He almost looks like Macron.

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    Wrong. Hair implants are gay, he should save his head and lift heavy
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  48. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

     

    Entrepreneurship is massively over hyped.

    The business community, media, academia, and politicians sell this idea that you can start the next Google/Facebook/WhatsApp and then go onto to mega millions (maybe even billions!).

    The reality is that the typical entrepreneur struggles to generate business and often earns a low income. He also works long hours, takes on an enormous number of responsibilities, and has a very erratic schedule. He has to pay for his own healthcare, dental, pension, and even self-employment tax. If he goes bankrupt putting money into his business, nobody is going to bail him out.

    Some entrepreneurs do succeed, but even then long-term stability isn't guaranteed. Many have amazing revenue one year and lackluster revenue the next year.

    Even venture-capital entrepreneurs have a 75% failure rate. If their failure rate is that high (with all the support and funding they're getting), what are your odds of getting rich vs your odds of losing your life savings?

    https://www.inc.com/john-mcdermott/report-3-out-of-4-venture-backed-start-ups-fail.html

    My advice is to not become an entrepreneur. Instead, either go into healthcare (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy) or go work for the govt. Lots of money and stability. You can often have a nice work-life balance too.

    Read this book. The Illusions of Entrepreneurship. I liked it. A realistic look at the reality of entrepreneurship.

    A summary of the book below (from Amazon).


    There are far more entrepreneurs than most people realize. But the failure rate of new businesses is disappointingly high, and the economic impact of most of them disappointingly low, suggesting that enthusiastic would-be entrepreneurs and their investors all too often operate under a false set of assumptions.

    This book shows that the reality of entrepreneurship is decidedly different from the myths that have come to surround it. Scott Shane, a leading expert in entrepreneurial activity in the United States and other countries, draws on the data from extensive research to provide accurate, useful information about who becomes an entrepreneur and why, how businesses are started, which factors lead to success, and which predict a likely failure.

     

    If you have a stable cushy job, don't quit it to become a full-time entrepreneur. Too much risk, too much hard work, and low probability of getting rich.

    A video that most Americans (especially young students) should watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTLJ8ZgfxA

    I agree with you. The taxing authorities alone can sink you, not with taxes but with the cost of compliance. Which is nearly as great when you have two employees as when you have 200. Only, you can’t amortize the cost over three employees very easily. I got audited nearly every year by state, federal, and (most often) local jurisdictions and never owed anything substantial (I was always careful). But it took hundreds of hours each year to satisfy the bureaucrats, who get paid the same no matter how many hours it takes, and who certainly couldn’t care less if you’re run out of business in the process.

    People will say that the obvious solution is to pay accountants, but that costs too (obviously) and not so obviously it’s still a time sink because you have to review their work, which is often riddled with errors. My friend whose net worth is in nine figures has never been audited a single time in his life. They know full well he can and will throw teams of very expensive lawyers at them and tie them up. So they don’t dare.

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  49. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?

    And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.

    You can’t buy off every ambitious, power hungry person. Moreover, ambitious, power hungry people will calculate that it’s worth taking a shot at being a populist demagogue as it will yield more power than whatever comfortable and boring sinecure with which the elites try to buy them off.

    The leader himself doesn’t have to be Mexican/Central American working class stock. He just has to use them as his power base. Look at Castro, whose parents were from Spain. Or the new president of Mexico.

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    "The leader himself doesn’t have to be Mexican/Central American working class stock. He just has to use them as his power base. Look at Castro, whose parents were from Spain. Or the new president of Mexico."

    There's nothing particularly novel about that. With a few notable temporary revolutionary punctuations here and there, it's been that way since the days of Cortez in all of the multi-racial parts of Latin America except Haiti.
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  50. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Sorry, but I just can't erase from my mind the image of the late, great English comedian, Dick Emery's, comic Anglican vicar with the big teeth.

    Does that peculiarly American branch of the Anglican communion – The Episcopalian Church – honor that ancient Anglican rite and tradition of the ‘vicarage tea party’, does it indeed have such establishments as ‘vicarages’ ?
    Do American iStevers have a clue about what I am rabbiting * on about?

    * ‘to rabbit’ Cockney English for yammering on about something. Rhyming slang, apparently derived from ‘rabbit and pork’ – ‘talk’.

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    That notorious English madame - Cynthia Payne - once described her 'social gatherings' at Streatham, suburban south London,( of whose clientele comprised largely of MPs, Peers of the Realm, Anglican Clergy(!), Diplomatic staff, senior business executives, 'top civil servants' etc etc), as 'Vicarage tea parties with sex'.

    On reading that characterization in a newspaper, I laughed uncontrollably.
    , @Crawfurdmuir
    Yes, Episcopalians do have vicarage tea parties, or wine-and-cheese parties.

    A good friend of mine, now deceased, was an enthusiastic genealogist. After he retired from his day job as an airline executive, he decided to spend several weeks in Salt Lake City doing research at the Mormons' vast genealogical library there. He was a devout Anglican and sought out a local Episcopal church, which despite the overwhelmingly LDS population there, he was able to find.

    One Sunday this Episcopal church held a wine-and-cheese party after services. It was held outdoors on the lawn between the church and the parsonage. My friend noticed that a Salt Lake City police car seemed to be making a regular circuit around the block during this event, and after the fourth or fifth time it passed, he asked one of the congregation in attendance whether this was not rather strange, and expressed curiosity about what the reason for it was.

    The man responded that consuming alcohol of any kind in a public space was illegal in the city, and if one of the Episcopalians made the mistake of stepping off the lawn onto the sidewalk with his glass of wine in hand, the cop (almost certainly a Mormon) would arrest him. The parishioners were well aware of the drill and scrupulously avoided the hazard.

    On the one hand. this impressed me as scarcely less barbarous than the Saudi religious police, but on the other, it was mildly amusing that the local Mormon establishment considered Episcopalians drinking chardonnay with their watercress sandwiches on a Sunday after church so great a menace to public order that it justified despatching a policeman in a squad car to keep an eye on them.

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  51. Pericles says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Tim Howells:

    I too was heartened by Vanity Fair's reporting on Stephen Miller's ongoing successful efforts to curtail immigration. I too had wrongfully feared that SF had been politically marginalized. But VF reports success in his unobtrusive and clandestine efforts.

    Contrast Irishman Bannon's unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller's ilk!

    Contrast Irishman Bannon’s unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller’s ilk!

    What our movement needs is fewer unsuccessful Whites and more, more, more Jews! (musical number begins) Wonderful! … beautiful! … generous! … Jews!

    (It goes on for a while.)

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    Pericles:

    Indeed our cause does need an infusion of upright and proficient Jews such as Miller; but all should be very seriously and thoroughly vetted for Neocon proclivities. I suspect that our benefactor Ron would agree to this, or so I hope.

    , @Stan Adams
    You'll have to try harder than that. Try this:

    Menschmaker, menschmaker, make me a mensch!
    Find me a yid, Chabad-Lubavitch!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlErVEOZ3VM
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  52. @Anon
    Latinos won't accept a deeply unequal society? Really? Is that why Latin America is the most equal place on Earth?

    When will Ann Coulter or someone come forward and wage war on the bogus term 'Latino'. There are some very rich and successful Latinos, the real ones, in the US. Cubans and white Mexicans seem have it pretty good.

    We need to start a campaign to get rid of a comprehensive meaning of 'Latino'. So many are mestizo who are mostly brown or they are all brown.

    Another thing. When someone is part Anglo and part African, he is called black than anglo(or white).
    But even when someone is more brown than white or even all brown, he is called 'latino'.
    It is ridiculous.

    Also, there are few things as sickening to me as white Conquis in the US acting like they are POC representatives of browns. They can go to hell.

    During the Cold War, American Right saw Latin whites as hierarchical allies against communism and color. But such alliance hasn't been feasible in the US ever since white Latinos got to pose as POC. And of course, white Latinos pull the same shit in Latin America. Afraid of being singled out as more successful and rich, they push the myth that EVERYONE is equally mixed in places like Mexico and Venezula. And just like Jews invoke 'white privilege' to distract people from Jewish power, Latin whites invoke 'gringo' and 'yanqui' to blame all 'racismo' and injustice on American whites. Enough is enough. These weasly Latin whites need a kick in the ass.

    Also, there are few things as sickening to me as white Conquis in the US acting like they are POC representatives of browns. They can go to hell.

    Add ‘blacks’ who are as little as an eighth black and grew up rich to boot appointing themselves representatives of actual blacks. Ever notice how few full-black politicians there actually are?

    ‘Black power’ is a gravy train for mulattoes and octoroons.

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  53. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    “The Next Populist Revolution Will be Latino”

    Two dead after driver beats fellow motorist to death with a baseball bat in late night road rage attack

    – Jose Rodriguez-Carrasco, a 37, and Jason Dyke, 39, got into a fight after their cars collided on Interstate 5, near the Del Paso Road exit, at 3.44am Sunday
    – Police say Rodriguez-Carrasco ran after Dyke and attacked him with a bat
    – Dyke died from blunt force trauma after the attack and Rodriguez-Carrasco was seen attacking cars with the bat
    – Rodriguez-Carrasco later walked into traffic and was struck and killed by a car

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6057297/Two-dead-driver-beats-fellow-motorist-death-road-rage-attack-getting-runover.html

    Don’t expect swift justice like this to become the norm. Come to think of it, this isn’t even justice, because the American man is dead too.

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  54. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Does that peculiarly American branch of the Anglican communion - The Episcopalian Church - honor that ancient Anglican rite and tradition of the 'vicarage tea party', does it indeed have such establishments as 'vicarages' ?
    Do American iStevers have a clue about what I am rabbiting * on about?

    * 'to rabbit' Cockney English for yammering on about something. Rhyming slang, apparently derived from 'rabbit and pork' - 'talk'.

    That notorious English madame – Cynthia Payne – once described her ‘social gatherings’ at Streatham, suburban south London,( of whose clientele comprised largely of MPs, Peers of the Realm, Anglican Clergy(!), Diplomatic staff, senior business executives, ‘top civil servants’ etc etc), as ‘Vicarage tea parties with sex’.

    On reading that characterization in a newspaper, I laughed uncontrollably.

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    Also amusing on was one certain hard-boiled movie critic's dismissal of Bob Guccione's 1980 opus 'Caligula'.

    'So soft', he rather unsportingly scorned, 'that you could show it at a vicarage tea party'.
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  55. kissinger says:
    @AndrewR
    Her response to Ben Shapiro's offer does not support the claim that she's smart. Maybe just smart enough to fool feminist cat lady ideologues whom no one will shag.

    It was a very smart response. If she won the debate, it wouldn’t help her career significantly. However, if she lost the debate to a very experienced debater, then it would have been quite bad for her reputation.

    The key to success in politics is to avoid low reward, high risk battles.

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    You don't have to be a genius or even "very smart" to know when you're totally outmatched. If she were really intelligent or even just a little more mature, she wouldn't have referred to his offer as "catcalling".

    We're doomed.
    , @AndrewR
    I didn't say she definitely should debate him. But comparing his offer to catcalling makes her look like a feminazi idiot. She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.
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  56. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    That notorious English madame - Cynthia Payne - once described her 'social gatherings' at Streatham, suburban south London,( of whose clientele comprised largely of MPs, Peers of the Realm, Anglican Clergy(!), Diplomatic staff, senior business executives, 'top civil servants' etc etc), as 'Vicarage tea parties with sex'.

    On reading that characterization in a newspaper, I laughed uncontrollably.

    Also amusing on was one certain hard-boiled movie critic’s dismissal of Bob Guccione’s 1980 opus ‘Caligula’.

    ‘So soft’, he rather unsportingly scorned, ‘that you could show it at a vicarage tea party’.

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  57. Dan Hayes says:
    @Pericles

    Contrast Irishman Bannon’s unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller’s ilk!

     

    What our movement needs is fewer unsuccessful Whites and more, more, more Jews! (musical number begins) Wonderful! ... beautiful! ... generous! ... Jews!

    (It goes on for a while.)

    Pericles:

    Indeed our cause does need an infusion of upright and proficient Jews such as Miller; but all should be very seriously and thoroughly vetted for Neocon proclivities. I suspect that our benefactor Ron would agree to this, or so I hope.

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  58. kissinger says:

    On the other hand, the Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks might eventually turn off lesser elements of their coalition.

    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?

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    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?
     
    the media did the initial sacralizing via Hollywood with a stream of movies like "To Kill a Mocking Bird" - a theme constantly reinforced since with movies, TV shows and filtered news - liberals simply follow this media created narrative.

    why did the media create this narrative - cos it manipulates white people into supporting the multicult.

    why does the media want the multicult - cos they think they'll be safer if everyone is a minority.

    #

    (i think the above is self-evidently true but the next bit is speculative)

    why does it work?

    i think "white guilt" is an evolved trait which developed to provide social cohesion among an outbred population.

    what *specifically* white people feel guilty about is decided by the dominant moral authority (cultural hegemony).

    the dominant moral authority used to be the Churches, tradition, parents etc and they used to make white people feel guilty about cultural eugenics like adultery, crime etc but hegemony was usurped by the media with the invention of cinema and TV and is now used to promote cultural disintegration

    so the dominant moral authority (currently the media) can make a significant percentage of white people do what it wants them to do by making them feel guilty.

    that's why/how it works imo.

    ("white guilt" is proportional to how hajnal a population is (as it's a consequence of long-term outbreeding imo) so anglos have too much (on average) and southern and eastern euros have less - which may turn out to be critical.)

    (women - particularly those whose emotions aren't anchored by their own kids - are more susceptible to this (on average) hence the media always showing them pictures of crying children when they want to manipulate them)

    , @ben tillman

    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?
     
    They legitimate the project. Liberals deserve to take all your money to fix what you did to blacks.
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  59. @Pericles

    Contrast Irishman Bannon’s unsuccessful Trump Administration efforts with the success of Jewish Miller. If our cause only had more Jews of Miller’s ilk!

     

    What our movement needs is fewer unsuccessful Whites and more, more, more Jews! (musical number begins) Wonderful! ... beautiful! ... generous! ... Jews!

    (It goes on for a while.)

    You’ll have to try harder than that. Try this:

    Menschmaker, menschmaker, make me a mensch!
    Find me a yid, Chabad-Lubavitch!

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    The topic really deserves a full musical. If I was a rich man ...
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  60. notanon says:

    And that is going to happen how?

    the bad guys aren’t liberal, they’re anti-white so intend to throw white liberals under the bus as soon as they are no longer needed as part of the coalition – some regions are already at that point.

    it will happen the same way orgs like the NAACP or the current GOPe happened – a bunch of dudes in the shadows pulling the strings of visually appropriate puppets who appear on the TV but don’t actually decide anything.

    (the problem for the bad guys is timing – not all regions are at the same point – which was the reason for the Merkel thing also – at the rate things were going France was gonna slip into civil war too soon before Germany was fully pozzed and thus could act as a warning.)

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  61. What? They can’t all be overlords? Better get cracking on the repeal of the Second Amendment, ‘cos some of those people we’ve imported from the lawless south are some Bad Hombres.

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  62. notanon says:
    @MattinLA
    Steve is right to point out how successful the "ringer" strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!

    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it’s not true – increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.

    the older generation may not have noticed this cos they already owned their homes when the process began but their grand children struggling to find a place to start a family is the much more fundamental price they are paying now.

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    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!
     
    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it’s not true – increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.
     
    Well said notanon.

    Soaring housing costs--especially for any neighborhood with "good schools"--are a huge tax on upper middle class people. Really the only "winners" are the super-rich. And the only winners long term--in terms of their descendents--are people who have no loyalty/connection to legacy American people/nation.

    ~~

    Even "immigration skeptical" Republcians are just extremely bad at picking even the low hanging fruit--jobs/wages/unemployment/income-inequality, soaring housing prices. Just bang repeatedly, head on, no compromises, on these basic facts. Steve's "affordable family formation" line--hammer it home, Democrats stealing your kids future. Throw in traffic congestion as well--as a cherry on top.

    Sadded with college loan debt, but a salary barely covers rent and loan repayment--thank a Democrat.
    Every time you're looking at your ginormous mortgage payment to live in a neighborhood with "good schools"--thank a Democrat.
    Sitting in traffic on a highway where traffic used to move--thank a Democrat.

    Democrats mass immigration/open borders plans are destroying your quality of life and ability of your children to build a family and live the American Dream--all so they can get elected, enjoy their no-work job and have *power* ... while providing cheap labor to their rich Wall Street buddies. It's the Washington-Wall Street Axis of Evil to screw Americans out of their future.

    Nationalists can't win if they aren't putting these issues front and center and beating on them all day, all night.

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  63. TTSSYF says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    He’s a Harvard Law alumnus descended from >50 generations of Talmudic debaters, and he’s not running against her in November. It would have been stupid to take him up on the offer.

    It’s the way she turned him down, and not the fact that she turned him down, that shows she isn’t that bright.

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    She turned him down in a clever, if cynical, way. Nothing dumb about it.

    Bear in mind that some of the people piling on to A O-C think Candace Owens (who also challenged her to a debate) is brilliant.
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  64. TTSSYF says:
    @kissinger
    It was a very smart response. If she won the debate, it wouldn't help her career significantly. However, if she lost the debate to a very experienced debater, then it would have been quite bad for her reputation.

    The key to success in politics is to avoid low reward, high risk battles.

    You don’t have to be a genius or even “very smart” to know when you’re totally outmatched. If she were really intelligent or even just a little more mature, she wouldn’t have referred to his offer as “catcalling”.

    We’re doomed.

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  65. Logan says:
    @Whiskey
    Ocasio-Cortez has a plan. Take deplorables stuff now, Bezos stuff later .

    Castro, Hugo Chavez ring any bells? Trouble with Get Whitey is that eventually after kulak they come for big shots .

    Heck there is likely some cartel boss with a long body count thinking just that.

    Sorry, but historically you’ve got that quite backwards. Historically they come for the big shots first. Only when they run out of rich bigshots do they come for the kulaks, the slightly less poor.

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    He is thinking of the Party self-cannibalization, I think (?).
    , @Whiskey
    This was the pattern in feudal Europe. Unarmed peasant first, armed lords with men at arms later . Bezos has lawyers guns and money. Deplorables have ... the Constitution.
    , @Lurker
    Whiskey is mostly right but tragically (or deliberately) wrong about the actual (((vector))) of the problem. He thinks wymmin & minorities are running the show.
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  66. theMann says:
    @MattinLA
    Steve is right to point out how successful the "ringer" strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

    “and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.”

    Oh, cheer up. At the end of that war there will be fewer, but better, White people in North America (apologies to Stalin). And no non Whites in North America.

    And when does that war begin? About 5 seconds after debt collapse. So, sooner than we think? (Apologies to Robert Service.)

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  67. Arclight says:

    He’s not entirely wrong – white elites will still run the left, but latinos will eclipse blacks as the group that gets to ride shotgun. As many have pointed out, lower class latinos and blacks don’t really like each other all that much and the growing numbers and economic power of latinos will eventually mean blacks will only retain their traditional position in the Democratic party in certain Rust Belt and Southern cities and will be paid lip service elsewhere. Most white liberals are probably looking forward to the day when their primary source of voters are the less troublesome latinos rather than the typical inner city African American.

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    Here! here! Arclight.
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  68. AndrewR says:
    @kissinger
    It was a very smart response. If she won the debate, it wouldn't help her career significantly. However, if she lost the debate to a very experienced debater, then it would have been quite bad for her reputation.

    The key to success in politics is to avoid low reward, high risk battles.

    I didn’t say she definitely should debate him. But comparing his offer to catcalling makes her look like a feminazi idiot. She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

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    She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

     

    Looks worse to who? She doesn’t care about normie Whites opinion she doesn’t need them.

    Getting a bunch of yas queen slay from the left is more valuable than winning over normies.

    If she maintains favor with the lunatic base, the machine will take care of her one way or the other. Even if she manages to lose an election (which she won’t, look at her district) she can be assured of media gigs and etc for life.

    The dems want to present her as the future, even as they in fact suppress the populist policies she espouses and run mostly ultra-White literal CIA employees this cycle.

    Maintaining her credibility among the people who support her is all that matters.
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  69. AndrewR says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    He’s a Harvard Law alumnus descended from >50 generations of Talmudic debaters, and he’s not running against her in November. It would have been stupid to take him up on the offer.

    Perhaps. It was much stupider of her to compare his offer to catcalling. She now looks dumber than she possibly could have looked after a fair debate.

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  70. theMann says:

    Ever put a Mexican, an El Salvadoran, and a Cuban in a room together?

    Yea, neither has anybody else. Aint no such thing as a “Latino”.

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    Your comment reminded me of an incident from my junior high school days in late 60s Key West.

    Two students got in a fight.

    Teacher breaks up the fight and asks, "Why are you boys fighting?"

    First boy says, "He called me a Mexican!" Second boy says, "He called me a Cuban!"

    Teacher asks the first boy, "Where were you born?"

    First boy says, "....Mexico...."

    Teacher asks second boy the same question.

    Second boy says (you guessed it), "...Cuba..."

    And Rodney King wondered, "Why can't we all just get along?"

    LOL
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  71. @Anonymous

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?

    And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.
     
    You can't buy off every ambitious, power hungry person. Moreover, ambitious, power hungry people will calculate that it's worth taking a shot at being a populist demagogue as it will yield more power than whatever comfortable and boring sinecure with which the elites try to buy them off.

    The leader himself doesn't have to be Mexican/Central American working class stock. He just has to use them as his power base. Look at Castro, whose parents were from Spain. Or the new president of Mexico.

    “The leader himself doesn’t have to be Mexican/Central American working class stock. He just has to use them as his power base. Look at Castro, whose parents were from Spain. Or the new president of Mexico.”

    There’s nothing particularly novel about that. With a few notable temporary revolutionary punctuations here and there, it’s been that way since the days of Cortez in all of the multi-racial parts of Latin America except Haiti.

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  72. @Gnome Sayin
    European-style coalition legislatures seem to make the most sense in the coming decades. The 2-party system isn't well suited to our disunited -- uh, diverse -- future.

    “The 2-party system isn’t well suited to our disunited — uh, diverse — future.”

    A very perspicacious comment.

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  73. @Arclight
    He's not entirely wrong - white elites will still run the left, but latinos will eclipse blacks as the group that gets to ride shotgun. As many have pointed out, lower class latinos and blacks don't really like each other all that much and the growing numbers and economic power of latinos will eventually mean blacks will only retain their traditional position in the Democratic party in certain Rust Belt and Southern cities and will be paid lip service elsewhere. Most white liberals are probably looking forward to the day when their primary source of voters are the less troublesome latinos rather than the typical inner city African American.

    Here! here! Arclight.

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  74. Pericles says:
    @Stan Adams
    You'll have to try harder than that. Try this:

    Menschmaker, menschmaker, make me a mensch!
    Find me a yid, Chabad-Lubavitch!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlErVEOZ3VM

    The topic really deserves a full musical. If I was a rich man …

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  75. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

     

    Entrepreneurship is massively over hyped.

    The business community, media, academia, and politicians sell this idea that you can start the next Google/Facebook/WhatsApp and then go onto to mega millions (maybe even billions!).

    The reality is that the typical entrepreneur struggles to generate business and often earns a low income. He also works long hours, takes on an enormous number of responsibilities, and has a very erratic schedule. He has to pay for his own healthcare, dental, pension, and even self-employment tax. If he goes bankrupt putting money into his business, nobody is going to bail him out.

    Some entrepreneurs do succeed, but even then long-term stability isn't guaranteed. Many have amazing revenue one year and lackluster revenue the next year.

    Even venture-capital entrepreneurs have a 75% failure rate. If their failure rate is that high (with all the support and funding they're getting), what are your odds of getting rich vs your odds of losing your life savings?

    https://www.inc.com/john-mcdermott/report-3-out-of-4-venture-backed-start-ups-fail.html

    My advice is to not become an entrepreneur. Instead, either go into healthcare (medicine, dentistry, pharmacy) or go work for the govt. Lots of money and stability. You can often have a nice work-life balance too.

    Read this book. The Illusions of Entrepreneurship. I liked it. A realistic look at the reality of entrepreneurship.

    A summary of the book below (from Amazon).


    There are far more entrepreneurs than most people realize. But the failure rate of new businesses is disappointingly high, and the economic impact of most of them disappointingly low, suggesting that enthusiastic would-be entrepreneurs and their investors all too often operate under a false set of assumptions.

    This book shows that the reality of entrepreneurship is decidedly different from the myths that have come to surround it. Scott Shane, a leading expert in entrepreneurial activity in the United States and other countries, draws on the data from extensive research to provide accurate, useful information about who becomes an entrepreneur and why, how businesses are started, which factors lead to success, and which predict a likely failure.

     

    If you have a stable cushy job, don't quit it to become a full-time entrepreneur. Too much risk, too much hard work, and low probability of getting rich.

    A video that most Americans (especially young students) should watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTLJ8ZgfxA

    If you want to make it as an entrepreneur you either have to to be given opportunities based on elite education and brains or you have to be willing to work 10 times harder than everyone else and hustle 24/7. Few people are willing to do this. Here’s a guy now worth nine figures who had to do the latter:

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  76. Iberiano says:
    @Anon
    Latinos won't accept a deeply unequal society? Really? Is that why Latin America is the most equal place on Earth?

    When will Ann Coulter or someone come forward and wage war on the bogus term 'Latino'. There are some very rich and successful Latinos, the real ones, in the US. Cubans and white Mexicans seem have it pretty good.

    We need to start a campaign to get rid of a comprehensive meaning of 'Latino'. So many are mestizo who are mostly brown or they are all brown.

    Another thing. When someone is part Anglo and part African, he is called black than anglo(or white).
    But even when someone is more brown than white or even all brown, he is called 'latino'.
    It is ridiculous.

    Also, there are few things as sickening to me as white Conquis in the US acting like they are POC representatives of browns. They can go to hell.

    During the Cold War, American Right saw Latin whites as hierarchical allies against communism and color. But such alliance hasn't been feasible in the US ever since white Latinos got to pose as POC. And of course, white Latinos pull the same shit in Latin America. Afraid of being singled out as more successful and rich, they push the myth that EVERYONE is equally mixed in places like Mexico and Venezula. And just like Jews invoke 'white privilege' to distract people from Jewish power, Latin whites invoke 'gringo' and 'yanqui' to blame all 'racismo' and injustice on American whites. Enough is enough. These weasly Latin whites need a kick in the ass.

    Well stated. The term Latino and Hispanic have simply been morphed and ret-conned give this sense that “it’s always been the case” that everyone who is remotely related to Spanish culture is not only the same (yet, “we are so different and diverse”), but also that we are all oppressed minorities. HACU and other Hispanic/Latino affinity groups are packed with white Hispanics who grew up leading very middle class/white lives. Here in California it’s very true (as in NM, where it is even more obvious).

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  77. notanon says:
    @kissinger

    On the other hand, the Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks might eventually turn off lesser elements of their coalition.
     
    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?

    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?

    the media did the initial sacralizing via Hollywood with a stream of movies like “To Kill a Mocking Bird” – a theme constantly reinforced since with movies, TV shows and filtered news – liberals simply follow this media created narrative.

    why did the media create this narrative – cos it manipulates white people into supporting the multicult.

    why does the media want the multicult – cos they think they’ll be safer if everyone is a minority.

    #

    (i think the above is self-evidently true but the next bit is speculative)

    why does it work?

    i think “white guilt” is an evolved trait which developed to provide social cohesion among an outbred population.

    what *specifically* white people feel guilty about is decided by the dominant moral authority (cultural hegemony).

    the dominant moral authority used to be the Churches, tradition, parents etc and they used to make white people feel guilty about cultural eugenics like adultery, crime etc but hegemony was usurped by the media with the invention of cinema and TV and is now used to promote cultural disintegration

    so the dominant moral authority (currently the media) can make a significant percentage of white people do what it wants them to do by making them feel guilty.

    that’s why/how it works imo.

    (“white guilt” is proportional to how hajnal a population is (as it’s a consequence of long-term outbreeding imo) so anglos have too much (on average) and southern and eastern euros have less – which may turn out to be critical.)

    (women – particularly those whose emotions aren’t anchored by their own kids – are more susceptible to this (on average) hence the media always showing them pictures of crying children when they want to manipulate them)

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  78. @Dave Pinsen
    You get exactly zero street cred from anybody, least of all from Bernie Sanders, for trying and failing as an entrepreneur. Failing as an entrepreneur is only cool if you become a super successful entrepreneur later. No one in America respects you for failing at business. And my point was that it made perfect sense that she gravitated toward Bernie, rather than neoliberal Hillary, after seeing how hard it can be to make it in America. Like her, Bernie has tried and failed at stuff, struggled, and been low-income.

    No one respects him for being poor in the past -- that's not my point -- but it gives him authority and authenticity when talking about economic issues that pols like Hillary, the late Jack Kemp, Condi Rice, etc. never had. He knows a lower capital gains tax rate, or cutting regulations, aren't going to make it easier for some struggling carpenter in Vermont to get his kid's cavities filled. He knows urban enterprise zones aren't going to bring prosperity to black America via hair braiding shops.

    Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no what does bring broad prosperity, but they know the pre-Trump bipartisan establishment was full of it, which is the beginning of knowledge.

    “Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no (sic)what does bring broad prosperity… .”

    It was ever thus. There’s no free lunch in this life, though Bernie, Cortez etal. try to peddle that line in consideration for votes and a life on the public’s nickel.. The whole basis of economics is the allocation of limited resources. And all resources, natural or otherwise, are limited. That’s the way it is. All that’s left is a debate over how these resources will be distributed. Socialism never worked on anything other than on the micro level. Whenever it was tried on the macro scale the results were catastrophic. Capitalism may suck but it’s the best we can do for now. A O-C, Bernie—deal with it!

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    It was ever thus. There’s no free lunch in this life, though Bernie, Cortez etal. try to peddle that line in consideration for votes and a life on the public’s nickel.. The whole basis of economics is the allocation of limited resources. And all resources, natural or otherwise, are limited.
     
    We managed to scare up ~$700 billion to shore up banks in 2008, ~$1 trillion for the Iraq War, and Trump just signed a >$717 billion spending authorization for the Department of Defense (which is more than twice what Russia and China combined spend on their armed forces each year). A O-C asking why we can't use the same magic to reduce what working people pay out of pocket for healthcare isn't going to strike most Americans as a dumb question.

    Every first world country incorporates aspects of socialism and capitalism. "Socialism never worked" is not an enlightening comment. It's worked well as part of the mix in Western Europe and the U.S. for decades. By itself, it hasn't worked as well, but that's true of capitalism too. Some things Americans have taken for granted (getting weekends off, having a minimum wage, etc.) were planks in the socialist platform in the early 20th century.

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  79. @Gnome Sayin
    European-style coalition legislatures seem to make the most sense in the coming decades. The 2-party system isn't well suited to our disunited -- uh, diverse -- future.

    True, but this is not a new idea.

    Pat Buchanan said (after his loss in the Republican primaries in 1996) that by 2008 or 2012 we would see the rise of a third party whose focus rested on immigration restriction. He said that if neither the Democrats nor the GOP would address immigration, then the two-party system would splinter.

    Donald Trump did represent a de facto third party in America in 2016, and immigration was his winning issue.

    Pat Buchanan said it and wrote it decades ago, and some in the MSM have noticed:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/donald-trump-pat-buchanan-republican-america-first-nativist-214221

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCS6ZLFvVeo

    I was watching this August 1993 C-SPAN appearance by Pat Buchanan and Christopher Hitchens just the other day. It is amazing how prescient Buchanan was - exactly 25 years ago - in identifying immigration and trade as the twin issues that mattered, and advocating for each approaches anathema to the DC Republican consensus.

    He was so far ahead of the curve in seeing where right-ward politics needed to go. From his opposition to NAFTA (seen at about 9 minutes in in the link above), skepticism about the continued need for NATO and US interventionism in general, insistence on the centrality of control over the border, and desire for tariffs and other measures to retain what's left of our manufacturing base, he was voicing powerfully and eloquently so much of Trump is trying to carry out today.

    What an impressive man, and what a shame we didn't listen to him harder back then.
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  80. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan
    Sorry, but historically you've got that quite backwards. Historically they come for the big shots first. Only when they run out of rich bigshots do they come for the kulaks, the slightly less poor.

    He is thinking of the Party self-cannibalization, I think (?).

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  81. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I made it a minute and a quarter into that dork's video. He's focusing on some silly mistakes she's made (e.g., saying 40% of Americans make less than $20k per year, when it's actually ~36% of wage earners -- gotcha!) while ignoring her broader point: most Americans aren't doing well financially.

    She just won her first-ever primary election, is 28 years old, and ~6 months out from being a bartender. Nitpicking her isn't going to stop her.

    I don’t know if it is in that clip, but she did claim on Teevee that the unemployment rate is currently low because many people are working two jobs. That is completely stupid.

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    it's not completely stupid

    full employment with full-time jobs will have frictional unemployment (people between jobs).

    same full employment but with people working multiple jobs if they switch one of them they are still employed (at the other job).
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  82. @Anonymous
    When you consider what's at stake, the money should be spent to get the guy some hair transplants. He'll take some ribbing, but then so did Wayne Rooney. So what? Looks matter more than ever now. Hold your hand over his forehead in that photo. He almost looks like Macron.

    Wrong. Hair implants are gay, he should save his head and lift heavy

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    Go back to 4chan please.
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  83. @Anonymous
    The only thing I like about Cortez is that she spells her conquistador name the way we all did in school back in the 20th c.

    Nowadays -- for whatever batshit PC reason -- the conquistador name is being spelled Cortes.

    But she's a flash en el pan. She won a low turnout primary. Her policies have few supporters. She's shallow in the interviews. Short fringe career ahead.

    She can achieve seniority in her party and in Congress by winning election a dozen times in her safe nonwhite, antiwhite district. With seniority comes better committee assignments, more fundraising, and thereby more means of gaining free publicity.

    Don’t write her off.

    And by the way, saying that her ideas have no supporters, is wishful thinking. Her ideas have tens of millions of supporters in the USA alone. They might be good ideas, mostly they seem to be extreme ideas that have failed, but either way the ideas definitely have support.

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  84. vanquish the aging rump of reactionary whites.

    And there it is. I couldn’t have made it up. They’re all power-top bears and we are all passive bottom twinks.

    I liked it better when they just wanted us all to die.

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  85. JoeFour says:
    @theMann
    Ever put a Mexican, an El Salvadoran, and a Cuban in a room together?

    Yea, neither has anybody else. Aint no such thing as a "Latino".

    Your comment reminded me of an incident from my junior high school days in late 60s Key West.

    Two students got in a fight.

    Teacher breaks up the fight and asks, “Why are you boys fighting?”

    First boy says, “He called me a Mexican!” Second boy says, “He called me a Cuban!”

    Teacher asks the first boy, “Where were you born?”

    First boy says, “….Mexico….”

    Teacher asks second boy the same question.

    Second boy says (you guessed it), “…Cuba…”

    And Rodney King wondered, “Why can’t we all just get along?”

    LOL

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  86. @AndrewR
    I didn't say she definitely should debate him. But comparing his offer to catcalling makes her look like a feminazi idiot. She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

    She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

    Looks worse to who? She doesn’t care about normie Whites opinion she doesn’t need them.

    Getting a bunch of yas queen slay from the left is more valuable than winning over normies.

    If she maintains favor with the lunatic base, the machine will take care of her one way or the other. Even if she manages to lose an election (which she won’t, look at her district) she can be assured of media gigs and etc for life.

    The dems want to present her as the future, even as they in fact suppress the populist policies she espouses and run mostly ultra-White literal CIA employees this cycle.

    Maintaining her credibility among the people who support her is all that matters.

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    People don't seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics. No one who likes Ocasio-Cortez gives one whit whether she would get out-debated by Ben Shapiro or if her refusal to debate him is a dodge because she knows she'd lose. They don't care if the dodge was a cynical use of their nonsense "rape culture" ideas even as it discredits them. They don't care about whether her ideas if put into practice would work, or even if they'd be ruinous and increase human misery. They don't care if her back-of-the-envelope numbers are off by a few tens of trillions here or there.

    They're praising her expression of leftist animal spirits and enjoying her slaying of an old pale male. They're looking at her as the future that was promised. The pinnacle of displacement. Brown people rising to the expropriation of the ill-gotten private wealth of whites by government force and arms. The avatar of a dim, immense Brown mass that will utterly upend all political equilibrium with its sheer gravitational pull.

    She's your nightmare, and that's what makes her their dream.
    , @AndrewR
    Well she won the primary, so she will definitely win in November, given her gerrymandered district, but the Dems are trying to make her their national mascot, and her stupid behavior like what she tweeted last week definitely hurts the Democrat brand with moderates and independents. Rabid feminism isn't any more popular among colored men than it is among white men. Every time a politician says something like this to fire up part of their nutjob base, they also alienate people who are not of that base.
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  87. @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    I’m not one for underestimating opponents, but what precisely is her political talent? Being a visible minority in a majority-minority district represented by a vestigial white ethnic Democrat who had grown complacent while his eyes were on Congressional leadership? She’s better looking than Barbara Mikulski? Voter turnout in the primary was pathetic. If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.

    Ocasio-Cortez is interchangeable with a Democratic general election candidate who could win a General Election in a majority-minority district in any other deep blue urban area. Plop her down in Chicago or a dozen other cities in districts with significant Hispanics and she’d win the General Election as the Democrat no matter what her platform and no matter what zany innumerate idea last popped into her skull and then babbled out of her mouth.

    She wasn’t ready for prime time when the media tried to pimp their narrative on her back. She’s been exposed. It won’t hurt her in her Congressional election(s), but it has probably put a cap on her political career. She’ll be a perennial member for as long as it takes her to realize that she can parlay the office into significant personal wealth. If she’s half as smart as you’re crediting her, she’ll worm her way onto an influential committee which will increase her value as a future lobbyist, in spite of what economic positions she takes publicly.

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    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.
    , @ATBOTL
    "If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman."

    You're dead wrong. You sound like a clueless GOPe boomer who thought Trump was a flash in the pan. Left wing populism is a few years behind right wing populism electorally, but it's coming in a big way. Look at the Corbyn phenomenon to see what is coming here.
    , @Daniel H
    >> but what precisely is her political talent?

    Uh, young, no institutional support, no money, no media coverage she took out the Queens NY Democratic leader and one of the leading men of the US Congress. That's a pretty good achievement.
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  88. Corvinus says:

    “And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.”

    I see Mr. Sailer is throwing a bone on his part to sate the appetite of his elitist fanbois and fangirlz.

    Delicious hypocrisy in light of this quotation from Senator Henry Cabot Lodge (1891) in his reference to Southern and Eastern European immigrants –> “[T]he qualities of the American people…are moral far more than intellectual, and it is on the moral qualities of the English-speaking race that our history, our victories, and all our future rest. There is only one way which you can lower those qualities or weaken those characteristics, and that is by breeding them out. If a lower race mixes with a higher race in sufficient numbers, history teaches us that the lower race will prevail. The lower race will absorb the higher race…”

    Of course, we are able to infer that our nation would have been much better off IQ wise had we sunk the damn ships (HT –> Vox Day) which came from Italy, Hungary, Greece, mother Russia, and Poland. Because we all know that charisma is an in born trait, and these “people” had clearly lacked that quality. And ever since then, our nation has suffered!

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    If Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc are today demanding that Mexico, Somalia, etc dump its surplus population on the US then yes the ships should have been sunk.
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  89. Does he mean “grievances and vulnerabilities” such as 1) not being as intelligent, 2) not staying in school, and 3) not working as hard?

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  90. Anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT

    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html

    Indians -- from India -- coming in from Mexico.

    First of all, how did they get to Mexico? Mexico really needs to tighten up things.

    And there've been a lot of non-Mexican, non-Mezoamerican people crossing over the Mexican border lately. This "one weird trick" is getting internationally known.

    Are these Indians coming because they cannot get H-1B visas? Apparently not.

    If you've read David Reich, you know that India has thousands of self-contained endogamous ethnic groups. This caste system means life for some is not what it is for others. And then there is the Islam vs. Hindu thing, and Sikhs are hated by everyone. There are also violently opposed political factions, often relating to caste and religion. This is an infinite source of refugees. Camp of the Saints tells us so.

    Apparently these Indian border crossers are claiming refugee status because their lives in India suck because of all this stuff.

    Fearing for his life, Sukhwinder’s parents sold gold and part of their wheat farm to get him a visa and a ticket to Mexico — in hopes that he could seek asylum in the United States. At the end of a five-day journey from Mexico City, he and a handful of other Indian nationals jumped the border wall in Baja California and were arrested by authorities on the U.S. side near Calexico.

    Sukhwinder said he felt forced to leave his home, taking a path that snaked through the United Arab Emirates, Greece and Germany.

    “Asylum seekers are not being granted asylum as easily as they were before,” he said. “I don’t know how likely it is that I will be able to stay.”

    Sikh detainees, as well as those of other faiths, have complained of conditions that don’t allow them to freely practice their religion.

     

    When you want to be a refugee, and your travel plans take you through Germany, for god's sake, stay in Germany.

    His mom loves him so much that she sold her gold to protect him. Oh, and also to get "reunified" with him three to five years from now. Family is so important that people will do anything to get unified with their family members, including breaking up a unified family, then applying for reunification. Unification is so much better the second time around.

    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum

    They run from diversity in India. They run from diversity in Mexico.

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  91. AndrewR says:
    @27 year old
    Wrong. Hair implants are gay, he should save his head and lift heavy

    Go back to 4chan please.

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  92. @27 year old

    She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

     

    Looks worse to who? She doesn’t care about normie Whites opinion she doesn’t need them.

    Getting a bunch of yas queen slay from the left is more valuable than winning over normies.

    If she maintains favor with the lunatic base, the machine will take care of her one way or the other. Even if she manages to lose an election (which she won’t, look at her district) she can be assured of media gigs and etc for life.

    The dems want to present her as the future, even as they in fact suppress the populist policies she espouses and run mostly ultra-White literal CIA employees this cycle.

    Maintaining her credibility among the people who support her is all that matters.

    People don’t seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics. No one who likes Ocasio-Cortez gives one whit whether she would get out-debated by Ben Shapiro or if her refusal to debate him is a dodge because she knows she’d lose. They don’t care if the dodge was a cynical use of their nonsense “rape culture” ideas even as it discredits them. They don’t care about whether her ideas if put into practice would work, or even if they’d be ruinous and increase human misery. They don’t care if her back-of-the-envelope numbers are off by a few tens of trillions here or there.

    They’re praising her expression of leftist animal spirits and enjoying her slaying of an old pale male. They’re looking at her as the future that was promised. The pinnacle of displacement. Brown people rising to the expropriation of the ill-gotten private wealth of whites by government force and arms. The avatar of a dim, immense Brown mass that will utterly upend all political equilibrium with its sheer gravitational pull.

    She’s your nightmare, and that’s what makes her their dream.

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    Maybe.

    I saw many comments on the NYT post about this incident saying roughly "I liked her before this but now she has shown who she really is."

    Yes, the left has a large base for whom identity trumps all, but there are millions of moderate Democrats who are turned off by this gratuitous SJW nonsense. Many will stay home and some may even vote GOP.

    , @ia

    People don’t seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics.
     
    And how do you propose to stop it?
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  93. AndrewR says:
    @Alec Leamas
    People don't seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics. No one who likes Ocasio-Cortez gives one whit whether she would get out-debated by Ben Shapiro or if her refusal to debate him is a dodge because she knows she'd lose. They don't care if the dodge was a cynical use of their nonsense "rape culture" ideas even as it discredits them. They don't care about whether her ideas if put into practice would work, or even if they'd be ruinous and increase human misery. They don't care if her back-of-the-envelope numbers are off by a few tens of trillions here or there.

    They're praising her expression of leftist animal spirits and enjoying her slaying of an old pale male. They're looking at her as the future that was promised. The pinnacle of displacement. Brown people rising to the expropriation of the ill-gotten private wealth of whites by government force and arms. The avatar of a dim, immense Brown mass that will utterly upend all political equilibrium with its sheer gravitational pull.

    She's your nightmare, and that's what makes her their dream.

    Maybe.

    I saw many comments on the NYT post about this incident saying roughly “I liked her before this but now she has shown who she really is.”

    Yes, the left has a large base for whom identity trumps all, but there are millions of moderate Democrats who are turned off by this gratuitous SJW nonsense. Many will stay home and some may even vote GOP.

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  94. Whiskey says: • Website
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    Sorry, but historically you've got that quite backwards. Historically they come for the big shots first. Only when they run out of rich bigshots do they come for the kulaks, the slightly less poor.

    This was the pattern in feudal Europe. Unarmed peasant first, armed lords with men at arms later . Bezos has lawyers guns and money. Deplorables have … the Constitution.

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    Who are we talking about as the attackers in this case? Because revolutionaries for the past couple of centuries have gone after the bigshots first.

    In feudal Europe unarmed peasants got it in the neck from everybody. Not sure how that's relevant to today.

    Also, American deplorables are not unarmed.
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  95. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross
    Democrats have always had ethnically exploitative political machines (note the scene in Gangs Of New York where Irishmen fresh off the boat are handed their first fresh food in months by the local Democrat ward boss) but what is threatening to happen now with the rise of Ocasio-Yonpaku (LOOK INTO HER EYES) is ethnically exploited political machines, the power supply decoupling from their hookups, leaving their pens, shambling upstairs, and demanding that the adminstrators take a hike.
    How often has this already happened to them? How often would it happen if the Democrats could shake their need to shackle people?
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    OT -- Mark Zuckerberg, concerned that he is not doing enough to be literally Satanically evil, has inquired about the prices of high end Christian artefacts he could invert or defile.
    Facebook to Banks: Give Us Your Data, We’ll Give You Our Users
    Facebook has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about customers as it seeks to boost user engagement
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-to-banks-give-us-your-data-well-give-you-our-users-1533564049
    Facebook Inc. wants your financial data.
    The social-media giant has asked large U.S. banks to share detailed financial information about their customers, including card transactions and checking-account balances, as part of an effort to offer new services to users.

    Ethnic machine politics always included people of the same ethnic group “upstairs” – usually these were earlier immigrants or had been there for a generation or two. In German wards you had a German ward heeler, in Irish wards an Irish war heeler, etc. This was an absolute necessity because the people coming off the boats (even the Irish) often didn’t speak English and would not have trusted anyone from a different group anyway. Gradually the foot solidiers worked their way up the pyramid to the very top. The 1st Irish Catholic was placed on the ballot in NYC by Tammany Hall in 1809. William R. Grace, the 1st Irish Catholic mayor, was elected in 1880.

    Of course in machine politics you had to bide your time – you couldn’t come out of nowhere and be put on the ballot. Promotion was a reward for many years of loyal service. But eventually the Irish in NY came to control Tammany.

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    Another commenter pointed put that Ocasio-Cortez represents the useful ethnics seizing the money spigot without seeing any need for the hueros, a break and not a continuity. If this happens it would also alienate the party from any voters not in that group (and erase all the experience the party had built up in those stale pale males). This would happen against normal whites becoming more and more involuntarily awake.
    The Democrats are the true populist extremists. They have talked themselves onto a precipice where calming down and reaching out to "deplorables" would mean angering the all-important new blood.
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  96. AndrewR says:
    @27 year old

    She looks worse now than if Shapiro had run circles around her in a debate.

     

    Looks worse to who? She doesn’t care about normie Whites opinion she doesn’t need them.

    Getting a bunch of yas queen slay from the left is more valuable than winning over normies.

    If she maintains favor with the lunatic base, the machine will take care of her one way or the other. Even if she manages to lose an election (which she won’t, look at her district) she can be assured of media gigs and etc for life.

    The dems want to present her as the future, even as they in fact suppress the populist policies she espouses and run mostly ultra-White literal CIA employees this cycle.

    Maintaining her credibility among the people who support her is all that matters.

    Well she won the primary, so she will definitely win in November, given her gerrymandered district, but the Dems are trying to make her their national mascot, and her stupid behavior like what she tweeted last week definitely hurts the Democrat brand with moderates and independents. Rabid feminism isn’t any more popular among colored men than it is among white men. Every time a politician says something like this to fire up part of their nutjob base, they also alienate people who are not of that base.

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  97. Forbes says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    She got brass, but I see no–zero–evidence of her being smart. Error-filled, sound bite banalities don’t cut it in my book. I’ve yet to hear anything out of her mouth that comes close to smart.

    Furthermore, I’d say she’s photogenic, not charismatic–charisma requiring more than a smile in front of a camera. Is there such a thing as a charismatic air-head?

    I don’t think it’s possible to underestimate her. Dumb luck comes to mind. It’s possible she’s got political potential–she’s certainly audacious, which is one step towards the ruthlessness required of most pols.

    The ankle-biting media grabs at any morsel to further The Resistance, she’s this season’s flavor.

    What is she so far? 0-6 in campaign endorsements? Lead balloon comes to mind.

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  98. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @TTSSYF
    It's the way she turned him down, and not the fact that she turned him down, that shows she isn't that bright.

    She turned him down in a clever, if cynical, way. Nothing dumb about it.

    Bear in mind that some of the people piling on to A O-C think Candace Owens (who also challenged her to a debate) is brilliant.

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  99. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Alec Leamas

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.
     
    I'm not one for underestimating opponents, but what precisely is her political talent? Being a visible minority in a majority-minority district represented by a vestigial white ethnic Democrat who had grown complacent while his eyes were on Congressional leadership? She's better looking than Barbara Mikulski? Voter turnout in the primary was pathetic. If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.

    Ocasio-Cortez is interchangeable with a Democratic general election candidate who could win a General Election in a majority-minority district in any other deep blue urban area. Plop her down in Chicago or a dozen other cities in districts with significant Hispanics and she'd win the General Election as the Democrat no matter what her platform and no matter what zany innumerate idea last popped into her skull and then babbled out of her mouth.

    She wasn't ready for prime time when the media tried to pimp their narrative on her back. She's been exposed. It won't hurt her in her Congressional election(s), but it has probably put a cap on her political career. She'll be a perennial member for as long as it takes her to realize that she can parlay the office into significant personal wealth. If she's half as smart as you're crediting her, she'll worm her way onto an influential committee which will increase her value as a future lobbyist, in spite of what economic positions she takes publicly.

    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.

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    She's an architect's daughter from the Westchester exurbs. She attended a private research university where she obtained a degree in an academic subject; about 2.3% of all those baccalaureate degrees are awarded in that subject, commonly aspirant lawyers. Only she has no law degree. Or any formal vocational training at all. She's pushing 30, has no husband, and has no children. With whom is she in tune? (By the way, you get better visuals from Kirsten Gillibrand, who is 20+ this woman's senior).
    , @Art Deco
    being better-spoken,

    She grew up Downstate but ended up with an Upstate accent of an intensity that's highly unusual in anyone of her cohort. Upstate doesn't produce people with attractive voices. Philip Seymour Hoffman's career benefited (with scant doubt) from having lost most of his accent
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.
     
    She is also young, energetic, and fairly attractive (compared to the average Wal-Martian, not Cindy Crawford for all you keyboard Hefners out there).

    Those three qualities did wonders for JFK in his televised debate against Nixon.
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  100. Art Deco says:
    @miss marple
    While I'm all for "vanquishing aging white rump", this guy's clueless. The majority will recreate the politics of their or their parents former homeland just as they will recreate that society. Hispanics don't assimilate much so we can determine that, just as in Latin America, a fascist elite will eternally battle a disgruntled Marxist elite for dominance. What's left of the non Hispanic whites should trade the US for Cuba and/or Puerto Rico to save themselves much grief. Also, a dead cat has more bounce in it than you'd think.

    just as in Latin America, a fascist elite will eternally battle a disgruntled Marxist elite for dominance.

    There is no fascist elite in Latin America. There have been fascist strains in the political thinking of about a half-dozen countries, but even these lasted only a modest run of years.. Marxism is pretty watered-down in the electoral politics of most Latin American countries, where it’s of much significance at all.

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    There is no fascist elite in Latin America.

    To be fair, there are few words in modern discourse with less meaningful content than "fascist." My fight to remind people that, "You know, the word 'fascist' actually means something, and it's probably not what you think it is," is a losing battle.
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  101. Art Deco says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.

    She’s an architect’s daughter from the Westchester exurbs. She attended a private research university where she obtained a degree in an academic subject; about 2.3% of all those baccalaureate degrees are awarded in that subject, commonly aspirant lawyers. Only she has no law degree. Or any formal vocational training at all. She’s pushing 30, has no husband, and has no children. With whom is she in tune? (By the way, you get better visuals from Kirsten Gillibrand, who is 20+ this woman’s senior).

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  102. Art Deco says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.

    being better-spoken,

    She grew up Downstate but ended up with an Upstate accent of an intensity that’s highly unusual in anyone of her cohort. Upstate doesn’t produce people with attractive voices. Philip Seymour Hoffman’s career benefited (with scant doubt) from having lost most of his accent

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    Disagree about the accents. The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people. The NYC accent, not so much on either front, anymore.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Upstate doesn’t produce people with attractive voices.
     
    Like that lead singer of the godawful Foreigner.

    Lucille Ball. Kirk Douglas. Rod Serling. Camille Paglia. Bobcat Goldthwait. Bob Mould of Husker Du. Ani DiFranco. Natalie Merchant. Jerry Jeff Walker. Gabby Hayes.

    You may be on to something there.

    Martha Quinn could be reassuring. She may not have had the best natural voice, but she knew how to use it.
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  103. MarcB. says:

    Many seem to assume that rainbow liberalism will remain deferential to the demands of avowedly enlightened, well-off people like themselves—

    Once they get a whiff of how their pets really feel about them, prosperous Whites who are not part of the power structure will eventually leave the Coalition of the Fringes. There is already plenty of “nothing I do is right” frustration among those who attempt to be “allies”, and this sentiment is not limited to activist circles.

    When someone internalizes the fact that that they can never make up for the original sin of being born White, they #Walkway. This will accelerate as Boomers become less of a cultural influence.

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    This will accelerate as Boomers become less of a cultural influence
     
    This is clearly happening - however, no former liberal will ever acknowledge that; all political talk will be avoided. It will come down to money, as everything always does.

    The lack of financial security for their children, or even grandchildren, will bring back that primordial instinct to only give your resources to your own family - there may not be a choice. And, lastly, Boomers & GenX'rs are overwhelmed with having to physically and financially take care of parents and in-laws who languish for sometimes, years, in nursing homes - Medicare only covers costs for 6 months. Our parents died quickly, but many of our friends are very anxious since their retirement savings are now used to keep mom alive. I have to change my directives so that I can go as quickly as my mother! I don't want to be kept alive with tubes/IV's/Oxygen especially, when there will be no recovery or quality of life.
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  104. @Anonymous
    As someone who's never joined Facebook, I find the truly scary thing is that their regular data sweeps of our society's major institutions collect everything about everyone--not just FB users. I delve into the fine print of the agreements when I sign up for any other service, and they all pretty much say 'we can do whatever we want with whatever we find.' If you don't like it, you can always live in a hut up in the mountains somewhere without drinking water.

    Really, you can’t live without Facebook? We do.

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    He said he does, his point was that "facebook" is just a cover for the real life digital panopticon. In other words he doesn't have facebook but does have a bank account, and not joining facebook doesn't protect that.
    , @Anonymous
    Did you read even the first few words of the post you responded to?
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  105. @Art Deco
    being better-spoken,

    She grew up Downstate but ended up with an Upstate accent of an intensity that's highly unusual in anyone of her cohort. Upstate doesn't produce people with attractive voices. Philip Seymour Hoffman's career benefited (with scant doubt) from having lost most of his accent

    Disagree about the accents. The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people. The NYC accent, not so much on either front, anymore.

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    The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people.
     
    I'm sorry, but no, just no.


    There is nothing wonderful about the insane taxes and even more insane Goodfellas/Jersey Shore wannabes that infest Western NY.
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  106. @notanon

    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!
     
    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it's not true - increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.

    the older generation may not have noticed this cos they already owned their homes when the process began but their grand children struggling to find a place to start a family is the much more fundamental price they are paying now.

    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!

    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it’s not true – increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.

    Well said notanon.

    Soaring housing costs–especially for any neighborhood with “good schools”–are a huge tax on upper middle class people. Really the only “winners” are the super-rich. And the only winners long term–in terms of their descendents–are people who have no loyalty/connection to legacy American people/nation.

    ~~

    Even “immigration skeptical” Republcians are just extremely bad at picking even the low hanging fruit–jobs/wages/unemployment/income-inequality, soaring housing prices. Just bang repeatedly, head on, no compromises, on these basic facts. Steve’s “affordable family formation” line–hammer it home, Democrats stealing your kids future. Throw in traffic congestion as well–as a cherry on top.

    Sadded with college loan debt, but a salary barely covers rent and loan repayment–thank a Democrat.
    Every time you’re looking at your ginormous mortgage payment to live in a neighborhood with “good schools”–thank a Democrat.
    Sitting in traffic on a highway where traffic used to move–thank a Democrat.

    Democrats mass immigration/open borders plans are destroying your quality of life and ability of your children to build a family and live the American Dream–all so they can get elected, enjoy their no-work job and have *power* … while providing cheap labor to their rich Wall Street buddies. It’s the Washington-Wall Street Axis of Evil to screw Americans out of their future.

    Nationalists can’t win if they aren’t putting these issues front and center and beating on them all day, all night.

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    Steve’s “affordable family formation” line
     
    yes - the essence of populism
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  107. “Democrats are betting on a diversifying electorate to secure their party’s future, but second-generation Latinos won’t willingly accept a deeply unequal society.”

    Yeah, Latino societies are known for their vast equality.

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    Yeah, Latino societies are known for their vast equality.

     

    Why, it's just like Denmark south of the Rio Grande.
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  108. @Art Deco
    just as in Latin America, a fascist elite will eternally battle a disgruntled Marxist elite for dominance.

    There is no fascist elite in Latin America. There have been fascist strains in the political thinking of about a half-dozen countries, but even these lasted only a modest run of years.. Marxism is pretty watered-down in the electoral politics of most Latin American countries, where it's of much significance at all.

    There is no fascist elite in Latin America.

    To be fair, there are few words in modern discourse with less meaningful content than “fascist.” My fight to remind people that, “You know, the word ‘fascist’ actually means something, and it’s probably not what you think it is,” is a losing battle.

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    To be fair, there are few words in modern discourse with less meaningful content than “fascist.” My fight to remind people that, “You know, the word ‘fascist’ actually means something, and it’s probably not what you think it is,” is a losing battle.
     
    faggot (n.1)

    late 13c., "bundle of twigs bound up," also fagald, faggald, from Old French fagot "bundle of sticks" (13c.), of uncertain origin, probably from Italian fagotto "bundle of sticks," diminutive of Vulgar Latin *facus, from Latin fascis "bundle of wood" (see fasces).
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  109. Luke Lea says:

    I can see working-class Latinos start voting for Trump however. That would be sweet!

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    Small business owners should become an important demographic to pull towards voting for Republicans. There should be ads about successful Latinos (restaurants, car dealerships, building contractors, wall-board installers (very Latino), beauty shops, retail shops, bar-b-que joints, mother/daughter businesses, etc. Texas and California have thousands of Latino business owners to interview. Shamelessly going after small business owners (Latino, Indian/Sikh, Cajun/AA/Iranian/Armenian/Lebanese/Thai, whatever), would be my game plan - some people would love the chance that a Big Fish like Trump thinks they are awesome, in their state, the country, etc. Sort of "vote for pro-small business Republicans, and you may very well experience the American Dream like these people have." Everyone can thank me later! :)
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  110. @Anonymous
    Does that peculiarly American branch of the Anglican communion - The Episcopalian Church - honor that ancient Anglican rite and tradition of the 'vicarage tea party', does it indeed have such establishments as 'vicarages' ?
    Do American iStevers have a clue about what I am rabbiting * on about?

    * 'to rabbit' Cockney English for yammering on about something. Rhyming slang, apparently derived from 'rabbit and pork' - 'talk'.

    Yes, Episcopalians do have vicarage tea parties, or wine-and-cheese parties.

    A good friend of mine, now deceased, was an enthusiastic genealogist. After he retired from his day job as an airline executive, he decided to spend several weeks in Salt Lake City doing research at the Mormons’ vast genealogical library there. He was a devout Anglican and sought out a local Episcopal church, which despite the overwhelmingly LDS population there, he was able to find.

    One Sunday this Episcopal church held a wine-and-cheese party after services. It was held outdoors on the lawn between the church and the parsonage. My friend noticed that a Salt Lake City police car seemed to be making a regular circuit around the block during this event, and after the fourth or fifth time it passed, he asked one of the congregation in attendance whether this was not rather strange, and expressed curiosity about what the reason for it was.

    The man responded that consuming alcohol of any kind in a public space was illegal in the city, and if one of the Episcopalians made the mistake of stepping off the lawn onto the sidewalk with his glass of wine in hand, the cop (almost certainly a Mormon) would arrest him. The parishioners were well aware of the drill and scrupulously avoided the hazard.

    On the one hand. this impressed me as scarcely less barbarous than the Saudi religious police, but on the other, it was mildly amusing that the local Mormon establishment considered Episcopalians drinking chardonnay with their watercress sandwiches on a Sunday after church so great a menace to public order that it justified despatching a policeman in a squad car to keep an eye on them.

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    this is funny, but also serious. People get hammered at those things (my navy grandfather was an Episcopalian who was often drunk) and then drive home. The cops can likely nail a DUI or two if they keep an eye on Episcopals.
    , @Anonymous
    Where you find four Episcopalians, there you'll find a fifth.

    They don't call them Whiskeypalians for nothing.
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  111. @Dave Pinsen
    You get exactly zero street cred from anybody, least of all from Bernie Sanders, for trying and failing as an entrepreneur. Failing as an entrepreneur is only cool if you become a super successful entrepreneur later. No one in America respects you for failing at business. And my point was that it made perfect sense that she gravitated toward Bernie, rather than neoliberal Hillary, after seeing how hard it can be to make it in America. Like her, Bernie has tried and failed at stuff, struggled, and been low-income.

    No one respects him for being poor in the past -- that's not my point -- but it gives him authority and authenticity when talking about economic issues that pols like Hillary, the late Jack Kemp, Condi Rice, etc. never had. He knows a lower capital gains tax rate, or cutting regulations, aren't going to make it easier for some struggling carpenter in Vermont to get his kid's cavities filled. He knows urban enterprise zones aren't going to bring prosperity to black America via hair braiding shops.

    Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no what does bring broad prosperity, but they know the pre-Trump bipartisan establishment was full of it, which is the beginning of knowledge.

    What did Bernie ever do entrepreneurially? Did he ever try working with his hands? He’s been a community organizer since 1962.

    Not disagreeing with you, but let’s not let Bernie define the terms here. The guy’s a Bolshevik parasite.

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    Bernie worked as a carpenter for a while, and probably was poor until he was elected mayor of Burlington.
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  112. @Art Deco
    being better-spoken,

    She grew up Downstate but ended up with an Upstate accent of an intensity that's highly unusual in anyone of her cohort. Upstate doesn't produce people with attractive voices. Philip Seymour Hoffman's career benefited (with scant doubt) from having lost most of his accent

    Upstate doesn’t produce people with attractive voices.

    Like that lead singer of the godawful Foreigner.

    Lucille Ball. Kirk Douglas. Rod Serling. Camille Paglia. Bobcat Goldthwait. Bob Mould of Husker Du. Ani DiFranco. Natalie Merchant. Jerry Jeff Walker. Gabby Hayes.

    You may be on to something there.

    Martha Quinn could be reassuring. She may not have had the best natural voice, but she knew how to use it.

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  113. J.Ross says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter
    Really, you can’t live without Facebook? We do.

    He said he does, his point was that “facebook” is just a cover for the real life digital panopticon. In other words he doesn’t have facebook but does have a bank account, and not joining facebook doesn’t protect that.

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  114. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Ethnic machine politics always included people of the same ethnic group "upstairs" - usually these were earlier immigrants or had been there for a generation or two. In German wards you had a German ward heeler, in Irish wards an Irish war heeler, etc. This was an absolute necessity because the people coming off the boats (even the Irish) often didn't speak English and would not have trusted anyone from a different group anyway. Gradually the foot solidiers worked their way up the pyramid to the very top. The 1st Irish Catholic was placed on the ballot in NYC by Tammany Hall in 1809. William R. Grace, the 1st Irish Catholic mayor, was elected in 1880.

    Of course in machine politics you had to bide your time - you couldn't come out of nowhere and be put on the ballot. Promotion was a reward for many years of loyal service. But eventually the Irish in NY came to control Tammany.

    Another commenter pointed put that Ocasio-Cortez represents the useful ethnics seizing the money spigot without seeing any need for the hueros, a break and not a continuity. If this happens it would also alienate the party from any voters not in that group (and erase all the experience the party had built up in those stale pale males). This would happen against normal whites becoming more and more involuntarily awake.
    The Democrats are the true populist extremists. They have talked themselves onto a precipice where calming down and reaching out to “deplorables” would mean angering the all-important new blood.

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  115. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT

    A growing number of California detainees are Indians crossing through Mexico to seek asylum
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html

    Indians -- from India -- coming in from Mexico.

    First of all, how did they get to Mexico? Mexico really needs to tighten up things.

    And there've been a lot of non-Mexican, non-Mezoamerican people crossing over the Mexican border lately. This "one weird trick" is getting internationally known.

    Are these Indians coming because they cannot get H-1B visas? Apparently not.

    If you've read David Reich, you know that India has thousands of self-contained endogamous ethnic groups. This caste system means life for some is not what it is for others. And then there is the Islam vs. Hindu thing, and Sikhs are hated by everyone. There are also violently opposed political factions, often relating to caste and religion. This is an infinite source of refugees. Camp of the Saints tells us so.

    Apparently these Indian border crossers are claiming refugee status because their lives in India suck because of all this stuff.

    Fearing for his life, Sukhwinder’s parents sold gold and part of their wheat farm to get him a visa and a ticket to Mexico — in hopes that he could seek asylum in the United States. At the end of a five-day journey from Mexico City, he and a handful of other Indian nationals jumped the border wall in Baja California and were arrested by authorities on the U.S. side near Calexico.

    Sukhwinder said he felt forced to leave his home, taking a path that snaked through the United Arab Emirates, Greece and Germany.

    “Asylum seekers are not being granted asylum as easily as they were before,” he said. “I don’t know how likely it is that I will be able to stay.”

    Sikh detainees, as well as those of other faiths, have complained of conditions that don’t allow them to freely practice their religion.

     

    When you want to be a refugee, and your travel plans take you through Germany, for god's sake, stay in Germany.

    His mom loves him so much that she sold her gold to protect him. Oh, and also to get "reunified" with him three to five years from now. Family is so important that people will do anything to get unified with their family members, including breaking up a unified family, then applying for reunification. Unification is so much better the second time around.

    Sukhwinder is out on $10,000 bond while he files for asylum. The decision on whether to accept his account and approve his claim ultimately rests with an immigration judge.

    Word’s gotten out about the asylum claim as the way in, now the third world horde are all concocting their sob stories to con their way in. Why was this Indian con artist let loose in the country while his asylum claim is being validated? What happened to the Trump negotiation with the new Mexican president that would make these people claim asylum in Mexico instead? I pray they at least put an ankle bracelet on him to track his whereabouts but I know that’s just wishful thinking. He’s going to disappear into the crowd and never heard from again, until he commits another crime or gets mass amnestied.

    Our immigration system is designed for honest people. 99% of people from the developing world are dishonest, that’s why their countries are so F up in the first place. They’re making a mockery out of our stupid asylum system.

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  116. map says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    What is there to understand?

    Occasional-Cocaine is simply a part of the New Democrat Party whose platform is Anti-White Communism.

    Bernie Sanders is the bureaucratic wing of this Anti-White Communist party. He’s the guy who redistributes White People wealth in exchange for a cut. Occasional-Cocaine is the recipient wing of this Anti-White Communist party.

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  117. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Believe you me:

    In the coming century, subcon immigration into the USA will make the Mexican inundation of 1970 onwards look like the proverbial 'vicarage tea party' in comparison.

    But hey, as the liberals insist on telling us, these are the “best and brightest”, “highly skilled” here to benefit our economy. Shouldn’t we let them go to Mexico instead, since Mexico’s economy obviously needs more help than ours? Or how about just keeping them in India, which needs them even more than Mexico?

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  118. Flip says:
    @Federalist
    "Democrats are betting on a diversifying electorate to secure their party’s future, but second-generation Latinos won’t willingly accept a deeply unequal society."

    Yeah, Latino societies are known for their vast equality.

    Yeah, Latino societies are known for their vast equality.

    Why, it’s just like Denmark south of the Rio Grande.

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  119. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tim Howells
    The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I'm happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he'd been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous "docudrama" or "reality TV show" about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake "Trump voter" on a panel to show how supposedly Trump's base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

    From the Vanity Fair article on Stephen Miller, we get this piece of gem:

    “By 2020, I would not be surprised if we just don’t have this program anymore,” said Jennifer Quigley, an advocacy strategist for refugee protection at Human Rights First.

    Who’s paying her salary?

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  120. Lurker says:

    second-generation Latinos won’t willingly accept a deeply unequal society

    Yes, and that’s why every nation south of the border is an enviable model of social democratic, egalitarian success!

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  121. ia says:
    @Alec Leamas
    People don't seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics. No one who likes Ocasio-Cortez gives one whit whether she would get out-debated by Ben Shapiro or if her refusal to debate him is a dodge because she knows she'd lose. They don't care if the dodge was a cynical use of their nonsense "rape culture" ideas even as it discredits them. They don't care about whether her ideas if put into practice would work, or even if they'd be ruinous and increase human misery. They don't care if her back-of-the-envelope numbers are off by a few tens of trillions here or there.

    They're praising her expression of leftist animal spirits and enjoying her slaying of an old pale male. They're looking at her as the future that was promised. The pinnacle of displacement. Brown people rising to the expropriation of the ill-gotten private wealth of whites by government force and arms. The avatar of a dim, immense Brown mass that will utterly upend all political equilibrium with its sheer gravitational pull.

    She's your nightmare, and that's what makes her their dream.

    People don’t seem to understand the depth and evil of identity politics.

    And how do you propose to stop it?

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  122. ATBOTL says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.
     
    I'm not one for underestimating opponents, but what precisely is her political talent? Being a visible minority in a majority-minority district represented by a vestigial white ethnic Democrat who had grown complacent while his eyes were on Congressional leadership? She's better looking than Barbara Mikulski? Voter turnout in the primary was pathetic. If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.

    Ocasio-Cortez is interchangeable with a Democratic general election candidate who could win a General Election in a majority-minority district in any other deep blue urban area. Plop her down in Chicago or a dozen other cities in districts with significant Hispanics and she'd win the General Election as the Democrat no matter what her platform and no matter what zany innumerate idea last popped into her skull and then babbled out of her mouth.

    She wasn't ready for prime time when the media tried to pimp their narrative on her back. She's been exposed. It won't hurt her in her Congressional election(s), but it has probably put a cap on her political career. She'll be a perennial member for as long as it takes her to realize that she can parlay the office into significant personal wealth. If she's half as smart as you're crediting her, she'll worm her way onto an influential committee which will increase her value as a future lobbyist, in spite of what economic positions she takes publicly.

    “If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.”

    You’re dead wrong. You sound like a clueless GOPe boomer who thought Trump was a flash in the pan. Left wing populism is a few years behind right wing populism electorally, but it’s coming in a big way. Look at the Corbyn phenomenon to see what is coming here.

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    yes - identity politics is forcing the Left back to Marxist economics cos they can't admit the economic effect of mass immigration.
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  123. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tim Howells
    The Atlantic has shown some glimmers of awareness that they face some paradoxes in trying to keep their coalition of haters together. On the one hand this opens up some hope for compromise, but really at this point I'm happier watching them just charging right over the cliff.

    O/T very good news from Vanity Fair about Stephen Miller keeping a low profile while working highly effectively behind the scenes. I was afraid he'd been pushed aside, but apparently this is by no means the case. (h/t Refugee Watch).

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    More glimmers of self-awareness from liberals: ABC has an ambiguous "docudrama" or "reality TV show" about anti-Trumpers being harrassed and denied service in a restaurant by pro-Trumpers. They must be figuring out that these tactics are not helping them, and hence the attempt at rewriting history. Check out the comments! We need a new vocabulary to express feelings that go beyond contempt and disgust. (h/t Infowars)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6046281/Video-Customer-Impeach-Trump-shirt-denied-service-restaurant.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    I also saw a good video about CNN planting a fake "Trump voter" on a panel to show how supposedly Trump's base is turning against him. Only problem was that the guy had a long social media trail proving that he was a long time Trump hater and SJW. Unfortunately when I searched back through my history to find the Youtube video, the account had been suspended! The war is on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/stephen-miller-refugees-state-department

    Disgustingly partisan hit piece from Vanity Fair on Stephen Miller, typical yellow journalism from the left these days.

    During the refugee admissions debate last September, Hamilton was allied with Miller against then Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Vice President Mike Pence, among others, including Elaine Duke, the No. 2 official at D.H.S. at the time.

    I always knew Mike Pence was a RINO. I’m sure he was instrumental in persuading Trump to keep on that other refugee loving RINO, Paul Ryan, who not only approved but expanded Obama’s refugee resettlement program to siphon billions to his beloved Catholic and Lutheran churches for the resettlement of hundreds of thousands of muslim refugees.

    Keep up the good work Stephen Miller! Now please do the same to the OPT, H1b and EB5 visas which are killing job prospects for American graduates. And please make sure Trump does not sign the border bill that includes the elimination of per country limit on green cards drafted by the treasonous rat Kevin Yoder.

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  124. Lurker says:
    @Logan
    Sorry, but historically you've got that quite backwards. Historically they come for the big shots first. Only when they run out of rich bigshots do they come for the kulaks, the slightly less poor.

    Whiskey is mostly right but tragically (or deliberately) wrong about the actual (((vector))) of the problem. He thinks wymmin & minorities are running the show.

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  125. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    In his 2005 book Who Are We? Samuel Huntington alluded to the danger of Latinos not assimilating as immigrant groups before them. In 2009 a NYTimes special report on Latino immigration pointed out that Latino immigrants are the first group of immigrants where the performance peak in the 2nd generation, and subsequent generations actually perform worse in terms of education attainment, incarceration rate and teen pregnancy rate(as opposed to other groups where subsequent generations continue to outperform the first generation). The report included articles about Latino teenagers emulating black kids in urban schools, denigrating and bullying the smart kids as “acting white” etc. The future of America will look more and more like Latin America.

    The real inequality of the world today is inequality of IQ. Back when we were largely agrarian and manufacturing societies, those with lower IQ but were willing to work hard could still eek out a nice living. But in today’s knowledge economy, hard work alone no longer gets you to upper middle class status. You need higher IQ to both master the language of technology and to rise above the average. No amount of affirmative action could level the playing field because it’s impossible to equalize IQ. The creme will always rise to the top.

    Socialism is the great equalization tool for the mediocre. Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity. Their supporters are those don’t have the IQ to attain upper/upper middle class status on their own but want what everyone else has nonetheless. This is why Latin America went through one revolution after another, all had to do with socialism, it’s what happens when mediocrity gains power. We are heading in that direction in the US thanks to a stupid immigration policy that brings in hordes of mediocrity, led by graduates of our elite schools who thanks to “holistic admission” are nothing but well-indoctrinated pseudo intellectuals and half wits:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/academic-brand-deflated-elite-degrees-worth-less/

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    Socialism is the great equalization tool for the mediocre. Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity.
     
    Right, which is why it's so ridiculous that they call themselves progressives. Human progress depends on defending the productive against the aggression of the less-productive.
    , @Jim Don Bob

    Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity.
     
    The late great Roman Hruska (R-NE) said of G. Harold Carswell, "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Hruska#Mediocrity
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  126. Lagertha says:
    @MarcB.

    Many seem to assume that rainbow liberalism will remain deferential to the demands of avowedly enlightened, well-off people like themselves—
     
    Once they get a whiff of how their pets really feel about them, prosperous Whites who are not part of the power structure will eventually leave the Coalition of the Fringes. There is already plenty of "nothing I do is right" frustration among those who attempt to be "allies", and this sentiment is not limited to activist circles.

    When someone internalizes the fact that that they can never make up for the original sin of being born White, they #Walkway. This will accelerate as Boomers become less of a cultural influence.

    This will accelerate as Boomers become less of a cultural influence

    This is clearly happening – however, no former liberal will ever acknowledge that; all political talk will be avoided. It will come down to money, as everything always does.

    The lack of financial security for their children, or even grandchildren, will bring back that primordial instinct to only give your resources to your own family – there may not be a choice. And, lastly, Boomers & GenX’rs are overwhelmed with having to physically and financially take care of parents and in-laws who languish for sometimes, years, in nursing homes – Medicare only covers costs for 6 months. Our parents died quickly, but many of our friends are very anxious since their retirement savings are now used to keep mom alive. I have to change my directives so that I can go as quickly as my mother! I don’t want to be kept alive with tubes/IV’s/Oxygen especially, when there will be no recovery or quality of life.

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  127. @Crawfurdmuir
    Yes, Episcopalians do have vicarage tea parties, or wine-and-cheese parties.

    A good friend of mine, now deceased, was an enthusiastic genealogist. After he retired from his day job as an airline executive, he decided to spend several weeks in Salt Lake City doing research at the Mormons' vast genealogical library there. He was a devout Anglican and sought out a local Episcopal church, which despite the overwhelmingly LDS population there, he was able to find.

    One Sunday this Episcopal church held a wine-and-cheese party after services. It was held outdoors on the lawn between the church and the parsonage. My friend noticed that a Salt Lake City police car seemed to be making a regular circuit around the block during this event, and after the fourth or fifth time it passed, he asked one of the congregation in attendance whether this was not rather strange, and expressed curiosity about what the reason for it was.

    The man responded that consuming alcohol of any kind in a public space was illegal in the city, and if one of the Episcopalians made the mistake of stepping off the lawn onto the sidewalk with his glass of wine in hand, the cop (almost certainly a Mormon) would arrest him. The parishioners were well aware of the drill and scrupulously avoided the hazard.

    On the one hand. this impressed me as scarcely less barbarous than the Saudi religious police, but on the other, it was mildly amusing that the local Mormon establishment considered Episcopalians drinking chardonnay with their watercress sandwiches on a Sunday after church so great a menace to public order that it justified despatching a policeman in a squad car to keep an eye on them.

    this is funny, but also serious. People get hammered at those things (my navy grandfather was an Episcopalian who was often drunk) and then drive home. The cops can likely nail a DUI or two if they keep an eye on Episcopals.

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  128. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Bragadocious
    What did Bernie ever do entrepreneurially? Did he ever try working with his hands? He's been a community organizer since 1962.

    Not disagreeing with you, but let's not let Bernie define the terms here. The guy's a Bolshevik parasite.

    Bernie worked as a carpenter for a while, and probably was poor until he was elected mayor of Burlington.

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  129. Lagertha says:
    @Luke Lea
    I can see working-class Latinos start voting for Trump however. That would be sweet!

    Small business owners should become an important demographic to pull towards voting for Republicans. There should be ads about successful Latinos (restaurants, car dealerships, building contractors, wall-board installers (very Latino), beauty shops, retail shops, bar-b-que joints, mother/daughter businesses, etc. Texas and California have thousands of Latino business owners to interview. Shamelessly going after small business owners (Latino, Indian/Sikh, Cajun/AA/Iranian/Armenian/Lebanese/Thai, whatever), would be my game plan – some people would love the chance that a Big Fish like Trump thinks they are awesome, in their state, the country, etc. Sort of “vote for pro-small business Republicans, and you may very well experience the American Dream like these people have.” Everyone can thank me later! :)

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

    , @Indiana Jack
    Appealing to Hispanic or Asian small business owners sounds like a good idea. But on the other hand, many minority business owners benefit from various types of affirmative action, such as special loans or grants designed specifically for minorities and set-asides as part of government contracts. For the beneficiaries, preserving programs like this would be much more important than cutting taxes and eliminating regulations. This would tend to limit the appeal of the Republican Party to them.
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  130. Daniel H says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.
     
    I'm not one for underestimating opponents, but what precisely is her political talent? Being a visible minority in a majority-minority district represented by a vestigial white ethnic Democrat who had grown complacent while his eyes were on Congressional leadership? She's better looking than Barbara Mikulski? Voter turnout in the primary was pathetic. If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman.

    Ocasio-Cortez is interchangeable with a Democratic general election candidate who could win a General Election in a majority-minority district in any other deep blue urban area. Plop her down in Chicago or a dozen other cities in districts with significant Hispanics and she'd win the General Election as the Democrat no matter what her platform and no matter what zany innumerate idea last popped into her skull and then babbled out of her mouth.

    She wasn't ready for prime time when the media tried to pimp their narrative on her back. She's been exposed. It won't hurt her in her Congressional election(s), but it has probably put a cap on her political career. She'll be a perennial member for as long as it takes her to realize that she can parlay the office into significant personal wealth. If she's half as smart as you're crediting her, she'll worm her way onto an influential committee which will increase her value as a future lobbyist, in spite of what economic positions she takes publicly.

    >> but what precisely is her political talent?

    Uh, young, no institutional support, no money, no media coverage she took out the Queens NY Democratic leader and one of the leading men of the US Congress. That’s a pretty good achievement.

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    OC taking out Crowley was like Dave Brat taking out Eric Cantor in 2014.

    Respect.

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  131. What will be fun to watch is how AIPAC handles the newly elected Ocasio-Cortez’s of the world. Will AIPAC be able to sway them, if they do how will there electorate take it. The controling members of the tribe in Wall St have managed to buy off a large enough percentage of Democrats to get what they want, will that continue?

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    Looked like AIPAC brought Miss Ocasio-Cortez to heel pretty sharply a few weeks ago.
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  132. @RadicalCenter
    Disagree about the accents. The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people. The NYC accent, not so much on either front, anymore.

    The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people.

    I’m sorry, but no, just no.

    There is nothing wonderful about the insane taxes and even more insane Goodfellas/Jersey Shore wannabes that infest Western NY.

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    My impression of the indigenous Upstate New York accent is that it sounds a lot like that of minor characters on "Green Acres."
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  133. @Dave Pinsen
    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.

    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.

    She is also young, energetic, and fairly attractive (compared to the average Wal-Martian, not Cindy Crawford for all you keyboard Hefners out there).

    Those three qualities did wonders for JFK in his televised debate against Nixon.

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    for all you keyboard Hefners out there

    Indeed.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    Good points. In terms of attractiveness, she’s sort of the opposite of that gal Steve blogged about recently, the one who wrote about the superiority of black jocks over white nerds. A commentator posted a video of her being interviewed, and noted she’s less attractive on video than in her (professionally taken) author photo. A O-C is more attractive on video than in her photos.

    And speaking of Cindy Crawford, there’s a young model who looks just like young Cindy Crawford: her daughter, Kaia Gerber.

    https://twitter.com/kalelaurent/status/1029458699029499904?s=21
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  134. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.
     
    She is also young, energetic, and fairly attractive (compared to the average Wal-Martian, not Cindy Crawford for all you keyboard Hefners out there).

    Those three qualities did wonders for JFK in his televised debate against Nixon.

    for all you keyboard Hefners out there

    Indeed.

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  135. @The Wild Geese Howard

    The Upstate NY and especially Western NY accent is wonderful, associated as it is with wonderful people.
     
    I'm sorry, but no, just no.


    There is nothing wonderful about the insane taxes and even more insane Goodfellas/Jersey Shore wannabes that infest Western NY.

    My impression of the indigenous Upstate New York accent is that it sounds a lot like that of minor characters on “Green Acres.”

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    Like Arnold?
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  136. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Her talent is being better-spoken, more authentic, harder-working, and more in tune with the base than any other nationally prominent Dem I can think of.
     
    She is also young, energetic, and fairly attractive (compared to the average Wal-Martian, not Cindy Crawford for all you keyboard Hefners out there).

    Those three qualities did wonders for JFK in his televised debate against Nixon.

    Good points. In terms of attractiveness, she’s sort of the opposite of that gal Steve blogged about recently, the one who wrote about the superiority of black jocks over white nerds. A commentator posted a video of her being interviewed, and noted she’s less attractive on video than in her (professionally taken) author photo. A O-C is more attractive on video than in her photos.

    And speaking of Cindy Crawford, there’s a young model who looks just like young Cindy Crawford: her daughter, Kaia Gerber.

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    Dave-

    Good points about photos versus videos.

    Alex does have one or two good stills around:
    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*aX5hmtBPleqUMTXfMNfi8Q.jpeg

    I will admit that I am biased about AOC since I lived and worked in North Africa for four years. I was fortunate enough to meet a few enthusiastic young women of similar complexion that took great care of me!
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  137. @Lagertha
    Small business owners should become an important demographic to pull towards voting for Republicans. There should be ads about successful Latinos (restaurants, car dealerships, building contractors, wall-board installers (very Latino), beauty shops, retail shops, bar-b-que joints, mother/daughter businesses, etc. Texas and California have thousands of Latino business owners to interview. Shamelessly going after small business owners (Latino, Indian/Sikh, Cajun/AA/Iranian/Armenian/Lebanese/Thai, whatever), would be my game plan - some people would love the chance that a Big Fish like Trump thinks they are awesome, in their state, the country, etc. Sort of "vote for pro-small business Republicans, and you may very well experience the American Dream like these people have." Everyone can thank me later! :)

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

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    duh, I am not being arrogant (ok, not you guys, too much social tech tonight). Gays are under-they need to find cover , those who voted for Trump/believe in his policies...ditto for lesbians in business or former military - now - in - small business (this is a situation). I have met many gay people (all small business owners) who are fine with Trump...but they don't have a "home." As a daughter of 4 generations of entrepreneurs, I understand their fear: You have to say shit you don't agree with but your company and your loved ones will be destroyed if you don't toe the line.
    , @Lagertha
    yes...and, it is true to other businesses, there are a lot of people that even you, may not remember, who were not "family people". Some people have businesses...other people have children - grandpa's wisdom. I miss my parents and grandparents...but I feel good spreading their Malthusian and Hobbesian wisdom onto strangers...depressing as shit, well, get ready.
    , @Lagertha
    my head is exploding right now, not due to Unz - will you "let me go?" and cover for me - don't throw me under a bus or lie for me.
    , @Lagertha
    my head is exploding right now, not due to Unz - will you "let me go?" and cover for me - don't throw me under a bus or lie for me. This is all BS btw.
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  138. @George Taylor
    What will be fun to watch is how AIPAC handles the newly elected Ocasio-Cortez's of the world. Will AIPAC be able to sway them, if they do how will there electorate take it. The controling members of the tribe in Wall St have managed to buy off a large enough percentage of Democrats to get what they want, will that continue?

    Looked like AIPAC brought Miss Ocasio-Cortez to heel pretty sharply a few weeks ago.

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  139. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Really, you can’t live without Facebook? We do.

    Did you read even the first few words of the post you responded to?

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  140. @Daniel H
    >> but what precisely is her political talent?

    Uh, young, no institutional support, no money, no media coverage she took out the Queens NY Democratic leader and one of the leading men of the US Congress. That's a pretty good achievement.

    OC taking out Crowley was like Dave Brat taking out Eric Cantor in 2014.

    Respect.

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    OC merely surfed a demographic wave--her own.
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  141. @MattinLA
    Steve is right to point out how successful the "ringer" strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

    Steve is right to point out how successful the “ringer” strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically.

    Death is generally considered to be a substantial personal cost, and the actions of white Democrats are designed to wipe people like them off the face of the earth.

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  142. @JudyBlumeSussman

    And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place.
     
    There's tons of them with charisma. Just not the kind of charisma that plays on television, (cool, collected charisma like Senator Obama's c. 2008).

    There’s tons of them with charisma. Just not the kind of charisma that plays on television, (cool, collected charisma like Senator Obama’s c. 2008).

    It depends on what you mean by “tons”. There are lots of Mexican/Central American working class people, but only a tiny percentage have notable charisma. Mexican mestizos and Indios are BORING.

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  143. @International Jew

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    "Ends in a vowel": that's Italians.

    “Ends in a vowel”: that’s Italians.

    “Ends in a ‘z’” would be more apt.

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    Right. Unless Steve was thinking of first names.
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  144. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    My impression of the indigenous Upstate New York accent is that it sounds a lot like that of minor characters on "Green Acres."

    Like Arnold?

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  145. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    OC taking out Crowley was like Dave Brat taking out Eric Cantor in 2014.

    Respect.

    OC merely surfed a demographic wave–her own.

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  146. @kissinger

    On the other hand, the Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks might eventually turn off lesser elements of their coalition.
     
    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?

    I have never understood why exactly are blacks sacralized by the liberals?

    They legitimate the project. Liberals deserve to take all your money to fix what you did to blacks.

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  147. CCZ says:

    “Democrats’ ever growing sacralization of blacks”

    As speaker, Jim Clyburn says he would ‘transform’ Democratic Party

    As speaker of the House, U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn says he would be a “transitional” leader but not “custodial.”

    The South Carolina Democrat says he would work to “transform” the Democratic Caucus to make the party more appealing “to young African Americans who still feel … take(n) for granted.”

    “I would manage not just resources but expectations,” the Columbia lawmaker said, “manage dreams and aspirations.”

    Surrounded by allies and supporters at the Congressional Black Caucus Institute’s annual policy forum in Tunica, Miss., last weekend, Clyburn spoke more frankly and openly than he had before about how he would approach the top job in the House’s leadership.

    https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article216593000.html

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  148. @Dave Pinsen
    Good points. In terms of attractiveness, she’s sort of the opposite of that gal Steve blogged about recently, the one who wrote about the superiority of black jocks over white nerds. A commentator posted a video of her being interviewed, and noted she’s less attractive on video than in her (professionally taken) author photo. A O-C is more attractive on video than in her photos.

    And speaking of Cindy Crawford, there’s a young model who looks just like young Cindy Crawford: her daughter, Kaia Gerber.

    https://twitter.com/kalelaurent/status/1029458699029499904?s=21

    Dave-

    Good points about photos versus videos.

    Alex does have one or two good stills around:

    I will admit that I am biased about AOC since I lived and worked in North Africa for four years. I was fortunate enough to meet a few enthusiastic young women of similar complexion that took great care of me!

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  149. @Cloudbuster
    There is no fascist elite in Latin America.

    To be fair, there are few words in modern discourse with less meaningful content than "fascist." My fight to remind people that, "You know, the word 'fascist' actually means something, and it's probably not what you think it is," is a losing battle.

    To be fair, there are few words in modern discourse with less meaningful content than “fascist.” My fight to remind people that, “You know, the word ‘fascist’ actually means something, and it’s probably not what you think it is,” is a losing battle.

    faggot (n.1)

    late 13c., “bundle of twigs bound up,” also fagald, faggald, from Old French fagot “bundle of sticks” (13c.), of uncertain origin, probably from Italian fagotto “bundle of sticks,” diminutive of Vulgar Latin *facus, from Latin fascis “bundle of wood” (see fasces).

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  150. @anon
    In his 2005 book Who Are We? Samuel Huntington alluded to the danger of Latinos not assimilating as immigrant groups before them. In 2009 a NYTimes special report on Latino immigration pointed out that Latino immigrants are the first group of immigrants where the performance peak in the 2nd generation, and subsequent generations actually perform worse in terms of education attainment, incarceration rate and teen pregnancy rate(as opposed to other groups where subsequent generations continue to outperform the first generation). The report included articles about Latino teenagers emulating black kids in urban schools, denigrating and bullying the smart kids as "acting white" etc. The future of America will look more and more like Latin America.

    The real inequality of the world today is inequality of IQ. Back when we were largely agrarian and manufacturing societies, those with lower IQ but were willing to work hard could still eek out a nice living. But in today's knowledge economy, hard work alone no longer gets you to upper middle class status. You need higher IQ to both master the language of technology and to rise above the average. No amount of affirmative action could level the playing field because it's impossible to equalize IQ. The creme will always rise to the top.

    Socialism is the great equalization tool for the mediocre. Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity. Their supporters are those don't have the IQ to attain upper/upper middle class status on their own but want what everyone else has nonetheless. This is why Latin America went through one revolution after another, all had to do with socialism, it's what happens when mediocrity gains power. We are heading in that direction in the US thanks to a stupid immigration policy that brings in hordes of mediocrity, led by graduates of our elite schools who thanks to "holistic admission" are nothing but well-indoctrinated pseudo intellectuals and half wits:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/academic-brand-deflated-elite-degrees-worth-less/

    Socialism is the great equalization tool for the mediocre. Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity.

    Right, which is why it’s so ridiculous that they call themselves progressives. Human progress depends on defending the productive against the aggression of the less-productive.

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  151. @anon
    In his 2005 book Who Are We? Samuel Huntington alluded to the danger of Latinos not assimilating as immigrant groups before them. In 2009 a NYTimes special report on Latino immigration pointed out that Latino immigrants are the first group of immigrants where the performance peak in the 2nd generation, and subsequent generations actually perform worse in terms of education attainment, incarceration rate and teen pregnancy rate(as opposed to other groups where subsequent generations continue to outperform the first generation). The report included articles about Latino teenagers emulating black kids in urban schools, denigrating and bullying the smart kids as "acting white" etc. The future of America will look more and more like Latin America.

    The real inequality of the world today is inequality of IQ. Back when we were largely agrarian and manufacturing societies, those with lower IQ but were willing to work hard could still eek out a nice living. But in today's knowledge economy, hard work alone no longer gets you to upper middle class status. You need higher IQ to both master the language of technology and to rise above the average. No amount of affirmative action could level the playing field because it's impossible to equalize IQ. The creme will always rise to the top.

    Socialism is the great equalization tool for the mediocre. Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity. Their supporters are those don't have the IQ to attain upper/upper middle class status on their own but want what everyone else has nonetheless. This is why Latin America went through one revolution after another, all had to do with socialism, it's what happens when mediocrity gains power. We are heading in that direction in the US thanks to a stupid immigration policy that brings in hordes of mediocrity, led by graduates of our elite schools who thanks to "holistic admission" are nothing but well-indoctrinated pseudo intellectuals and half wits:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/academic-brand-deflated-elite-degrees-worth-less/

    Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all champions of mediocrity.

    The late great Roman Hruska (R-NE) said of G. Harold Carswell, “Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance? We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Hruska#Mediocrity

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  152. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
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    "Granted, neither he nor A O-C may no (sic)what does bring broad prosperity... ."

    It was ever thus. There's no free lunch in this life, though Bernie, Cortez etal. try to peddle that line in consideration for votes and a life on the public's nickel.. The whole basis of economics is the allocation of limited resources. And all resources, natural or otherwise, are limited. That's the way it is. All that's left is a debate over how these resources will be distributed. Socialism never worked on anything other than on the micro level. Whenever it was tried on the macro scale the results were catastrophic. Capitalism may suck but it's the best we can do for now. A O-C, Bernie---deal with it!

    It was ever thus. There’s no free lunch in this life, though Bernie, Cortez etal. try to peddle that line in consideration for votes and a life on the public’s nickel.. The whole basis of economics is the allocation of limited resources. And all resources, natural or otherwise, are limited.

    We managed to scare up ~$700 billion to shore up banks in 2008, ~$1 trillion for the Iraq War, and Trump just signed a >$717 billion spending authorization for the Department of Defense (which is more than twice what Russia and China combined spend on their armed forces each year). A O-C asking why we can’t use the same magic to reduce what working people pay out of pocket for healthcare isn’t going to strike most Americans as a dumb question.

    Every first world country incorporates aspects of socialism and capitalism. “Socialism never worked” is not an enlightening comment. It’s worked well as part of the mix in Western Europe and the U.S. for decades. By itself, it hasn’t worked as well, but that’s true of capitalism too. Some things Americans have taken for granted (getting weekends off, having a minimum wage, etc.) were planks in the socialist platform in the early 20th century.

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  153. @Paul Jolliffe
    True, but this is not a new idea.

    Pat Buchanan said (after his loss in the Republican primaries in 1996) that by 2008 or 2012 we would see the rise of a third party whose focus rested on immigration restriction. He said that if neither the Democrats nor the GOP would address immigration, then the two-party system would splinter.

    Donald Trump did represent a de facto third party in America in 2016, and immigration was his winning issue.

    Pat Buchanan said it and wrote it decades ago, and some in the MSM have noticed:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/donald-trump-pat-buchanan-republican-america-first-nativist-214221

    I was watching this August 1993 C-SPAN appearance by Pat Buchanan and Christopher Hitchens just the other day. It is amazing how prescient Buchanan was – exactly 25 years ago – in identifying immigration and trade as the twin issues that mattered, and advocating for each approaches anathema to the DC Republican consensus.

    He was so far ahead of the curve in seeing where right-ward politics needed to go. From his opposition to NAFTA (seen at about 9 minutes in in the link above), skepticism about the continued need for NATO and US interventionism in general, insistence on the centrality of control over the border, and desire for tariffs and other measures to retain what’s left of our manufacturing base, he was voicing powerfully and eloquently so much of Trump is trying to carry out today.

    What an impressive man, and what a shame we didn’t listen to him harder back then.

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  154. @Lagertha
    Small business owners should become an important demographic to pull towards voting for Republicans. There should be ads about successful Latinos (restaurants, car dealerships, building contractors, wall-board installers (very Latino), beauty shops, retail shops, bar-b-que joints, mother/daughter businesses, etc. Texas and California have thousands of Latino business owners to interview. Shamelessly going after small business owners (Latino, Indian/Sikh, Cajun/AA/Iranian/Armenian/Lebanese/Thai, whatever), would be my game plan - some people would love the chance that a Big Fish like Trump thinks they are awesome, in their state, the country, etc. Sort of "vote for pro-small business Republicans, and you may very well experience the American Dream like these people have." Everyone can thank me later! :)

    Appealing to Hispanic or Asian small business owners sounds like a good idea. But on the other hand, many minority business owners benefit from various types of affirmative action, such as special loans or grants designed specifically for minorities and set-asides as part of government contracts. For the beneficiaries, preserving programs like this would be much more important than cutting taxes and eliminating regulations. This would tend to limit the appeal of the Republican Party to them.

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  155. @ben tillman

    “Ends in a vowel”: that’s Italians.
     
    "Ends in a 'z'" would be more apt.

    Right. Unless Steve was thinking of first names.

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  156. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Crawfurdmuir
    Yes, Episcopalians do have vicarage tea parties, or wine-and-cheese parties.

    A good friend of mine, now deceased, was an enthusiastic genealogist. After he retired from his day job as an airline executive, he decided to spend several weeks in Salt Lake City doing research at the Mormons' vast genealogical library there. He was a devout Anglican and sought out a local Episcopal church, which despite the overwhelmingly LDS population there, he was able to find.

    One Sunday this Episcopal church held a wine-and-cheese party after services. It was held outdoors on the lawn between the church and the parsonage. My friend noticed that a Salt Lake City police car seemed to be making a regular circuit around the block during this event, and after the fourth or fifth time it passed, he asked one of the congregation in attendance whether this was not rather strange, and expressed curiosity about what the reason for it was.

    The man responded that consuming alcohol of any kind in a public space was illegal in the city, and if one of the Episcopalians made the mistake of stepping off the lawn onto the sidewalk with his glass of wine in hand, the cop (almost certainly a Mormon) would arrest him. The parishioners were well aware of the drill and scrupulously avoided the hazard.

    On the one hand. this impressed me as scarcely less barbarous than the Saudi religious police, but on the other, it was mildly amusing that the local Mormon establishment considered Episcopalians drinking chardonnay with their watercress sandwiches on a Sunday after church so great a menace to public order that it justified despatching a policeman in a squad car to keep an eye on them.

    Where you find four Episcopalians, there you’ll find a fifth.

    They don’t call them Whiskeypalians for nothing.

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    Speaking of religious folk and vice, a joke I heard once:

    Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Savior.

    Protestants do not recognize the Pope as leader of the church.

    Baptists do not recognize each other at the liquor store.
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  157. @Indiana Jack
    Appealing to Hispanic or Asian small business owners sounds like a good idea. But on the other hand, many minority business owners benefit from various types of affirmative action, such as special loans or grants designed specifically for minorities and set-asides as part of government contracts. For the beneficiaries, preserving programs like this would be much more important than cutting taxes and eliminating regulations. This would tend to limit the appeal of the Republican Party to them.

    Various Asians get subsidized to import more of their relatives to work in their shops.

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    ...and their parents who get American retirement pensions.
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  158. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I wouldn't be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

    duh, I am not being arrogant (ok, not you guys, too much social tech tonight). Gays are under-they need to find cover , those who voted for Trump/believe in his policies…ditto for lesbians in business or former military – now – in – small business (this is a situation). I have met many gay people (all small business owners) who are fine with Trump…but they don’t have a “home.” As a daughter of 4 generations of entrepreneurs, I understand their fear: You have to say shit you don’t agree with but your company and your loved ones will be destroyed if you don’t toe the line.

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  159. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I wouldn't be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

    yes…and, it is true to other businesses, there are a lot of people that even you, may not remember, who were not “family people”. Some people have businesses…other people have children – grandpa’s wisdom. I miss my parents and grandparents…but I feel good spreading their Malthusian and Hobbesian wisdom onto strangers…depressing as shit, well, get ready.

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  160. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I wouldn't be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

    my head is exploding right now, not due to Unz – will you “let me go?” and cover for me – don’t throw me under a bus or lie for me.

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  161. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I wouldn't be surprised if the 25% or so of gay men who vote GOP tend to be disproportionately small business owners.

    Lesbians who vote GOP tend to be in the military or reserve.

    my head is exploding right now, not due to Unz – will you “let me go?” and cover for me – don’t throw me under a bus or lie for me. This is all BS btw.

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  162. @Dave Pinsen

    Who is going to stay a populist when both parties’ elites are desperate for anybody whose name ends in a vowel who has any charisma?
     
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so far. She’s smart and charismatic enough to be a talented pol (I think Krikorian and others mocking her underestimate her), but wasn’t Miranda-level talented to make her rich before running.

    It’s notable that she tried her hand at entrepreneurship before becoming a bartender, so she knows how hard it is. That experience may have inoculated her against neoliberalism.

    She got brass, but I see no–zero–evidence of her being smart. Error-filled, sound bite banalities don’t cut it in my book. I’ve yet to hear anything out of her mouth that comes close to smart.

    Furthermore, I’d say she’s photogenic, not charismatic–charisma requiring more than a smile in front of a camera. Is there such a thing as a charismatic air-head?

    She’s Joe Biden, then.

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  163. Shorter Reihan Salam:

    Kempism* could still happen even though it didn’t happen for 40 years in a row since the year that Kempism was invented! So you’re saying there’s a chance! A broken Kemp is right twice a millennium!

    * The philosophy that non-Whites could/would/should/will ever vote for the GOP over the Dems.

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  165. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Various Asians get subsidized to import more of their relatives to work in their shops.

    …and their parents who get American retirement pensions.

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  166. notanon says:
    @Anonymous
    If you want to make it as an entrepreneur you either have to to be given opportunities based on elite education and brains or you have to be willing to work 10 times harder than everyone else and hustle 24/7. Few people are willing to do this. Here’s a guy now worth nine figures who had to do the latter:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8rwgdhib-M

    or lend money to people with higher time preference over many generations

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  167. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "And of course there aren’t that many Mexican/Central American working class people with all that much charisma in the first place."

    I see Mr. Sailer is throwing a bone on his part to sate the appetite of his elitist fanbois and fangirlz.

    Delicious hypocrisy in light of this quotation from Senator Henry Cabot Lodge (1891) in his reference to Southern and Eastern European immigrants --> "[T]he qualities of the American people...are moral far more than intellectual, and it is on the moral qualities of the English-speaking race that our history, our victories, and all our future rest. There is only one way which you can lower those qualities or weaken those characteristics, and that is by breeding them out. If a lower race mixes with a higher race in sufficient numbers, history teaches us that the lower race will prevail. The lower race will absorb the higher race..."

    Of course, we are able to infer that our nation would have been much better off IQ wise had we sunk the damn ships (HT --> Vox Day) which came from Italy, Hungary, Greece, mother Russia, and Poland. Because we all know that charisma is an in born trait, and these "people" had clearly lacked that quality. And ever since then, our nation has suffered!

    If Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc are today demanding that Mexico, Somalia, etc dump its surplus population on the US then yes the ships should have been sunk.

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    "If Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc are today demanding that Mexico, Somalia, etc dump its surplus population on the US then yes the ships should have been sunk."

    [Whoosh] the point went right over your head. Nativists in the late 1800's insisted that Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc., just like Mexicans and Somalians, were NOT assimilable. Why? They were of a lower ethnic class. Made little difference that they were white. The intermingling of these groups with the "original peoples" would be tragically dysgenic. Yet, it seems as if by magic, today's Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc. are Americans, with little biological repercussions. So, it would appear that Lodge's protestation that America would fall off the map because of "race mixing" (in reality, ethnic mixing) is way off base. Yet, the same argument by today's nativists, who have somehow forgotten that their own ancestors endured similar treatment, is made for exclusion of Mexicans and Somalians.

    What gives, Kemosabe?
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  168. notanon says:
    @Anonymous
    I don't know if it is in that clip, but she did claim on Teevee that the unemployment rate is currently low because many people are working two jobs. That is completely stupid.

    it’s not completely stupid

    full employment with full-time jobs will have frictional unemployment (people between jobs).

    same full employment but with people working multiple jobs if they switch one of them they are still employed (at the other job).

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  169. notanon says:
    @AnotherDad


    All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune!
     
    i agree many upper middle class people believe this but it’s not true – increased housing costs (due to white flight, good schools etc) outweigh those relatively minor benefits.
     
    Well said notanon.

    Soaring housing costs--especially for any neighborhood with "good schools"--are a huge tax on upper middle class people. Really the only "winners" are the super-rich. And the only winners long term--in terms of their descendents--are people who have no loyalty/connection to legacy American people/nation.

    ~~

    Even "immigration skeptical" Republcians are just extremely bad at picking even the low hanging fruit--jobs/wages/unemployment/income-inequality, soaring housing prices. Just bang repeatedly, head on, no compromises, on these basic facts. Steve's "affordable family formation" line--hammer it home, Democrats stealing your kids future. Throw in traffic congestion as well--as a cherry on top.

    Sadded with college loan debt, but a salary barely covers rent and loan repayment--thank a Democrat.
    Every time you're looking at your ginormous mortgage payment to live in a neighborhood with "good schools"--thank a Democrat.
    Sitting in traffic on a highway where traffic used to move--thank a Democrat.

    Democrats mass immigration/open borders plans are destroying your quality of life and ability of your children to build a family and live the American Dream--all so they can get elected, enjoy their no-work job and have *power* ... while providing cheap labor to their rich Wall Street buddies. It's the Washington-Wall Street Axis of Evil to screw Americans out of their future.

    Nationalists can't win if they aren't putting these issues front and center and beating on them all day, all night.

    Steve’s “affordable family formation” line

    yes – the essence of populism

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  170. notanon says:
    @ATBOTL
    "If Crowley had been half-awake, we would never have heard of the woman."

    You're dead wrong. You sound like a clueless GOPe boomer who thought Trump was a flash in the pan. Left wing populism is a few years behind right wing populism electorally, but it's coming in a big way. Look at the Corbyn phenomenon to see what is coming here.

    yes – identity politics is forcing the Left back to Marxist economics cos they can’t admit the economic effect of mass immigration.

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  171. Corn says:
    @Anonymous
    Where you find four Episcopalians, there you'll find a fifth.

    They don't call them Whiskeypalians for nothing.

    Speaking of religious folk and vice, a joke I heard once:

    Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Savior.

    Protestants do not recognize the Pope as leader of the church.

    Baptists do not recognize each other at the liquor store.

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  172. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous
    If Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc are today demanding that Mexico, Somalia, etc dump its surplus population on the US then yes the ships should have been sunk.

    “If Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc are today demanding that Mexico, Somalia, etc dump its surplus population on the US then yes the ships should have been sunk.”

    [Whoosh] the point went right over your head. Nativists in the late 1800′s insisted that Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc., just like Mexicans and Somalians, were NOT assimilable. Why? They were of a lower ethnic class. Made little difference that they were white. The intermingling of these groups with the “original peoples” would be tragically dysgenic. Yet, it seems as if by magic, today’s Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, etc. are Americans, with little biological repercussions. So, it would appear that Lodge’s protestation that America would fall off the map because of “race mixing” (in reality, ethnic mixing) is way off base. Yet, the same argument by today’s nativists, who have somehow forgotten that their own ancestors endured similar treatment, is made for exclusion of Mexicans and Somalians.

    What gives, Kemosabe?

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  173. Logan says:
    @Whiskey
    This was the pattern in feudal Europe. Unarmed peasant first, armed lords with men at arms later . Bezos has lawyers guns and money. Deplorables have ... the Constitution.

    Who are we talking about as the attackers in this case? Because revolutionaries for the past couple of centuries have gone after the bigshots first.

    In feudal Europe unarmed peasants got it in the neck from everybody. Not sure how that’s relevant to today.

    Also, American deplorables are not unarmed.

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  174. MBlanc46 says:
    @Gnome Sayin
    European-style coalition legislatures seem to make the most sense in the coming decades. The 2-party system isn't well suited to our disunited -- uh, diverse -- future.

    We will have a multiparty system. There will be a rump Repub party for irredentist whites and a factionalized Dem party with the various factions representing the various identity groups, viz., blacks, Mexicans, South Asians, East Asians, single women, lesbians, homosexual men, girls who think they’re boys, boys who think they’re girls, and heaven only knows what new groups that might surface. Watching them pick over the corpse of the nation will be interesting, but not for the faint of heart.

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  175. MBlanc46 says:
    @MattinLA
    Steve is right to point out how successful the "ringer" strategy has been for our Democrat elites. They had been losing since 1965, and were on the cusp of complete and ignominious defeat as of 1980. Then the brown (and black, and yellow) immigrant wave swept in and not only saved them, but brought them to the very threshold of complete and total victory. All at literally no personal cost whatsoever; indeed, the opposite, since the horde of brown nannies, gardeners, etc. saved them a fortune! No way will they give up a strategy that generations of them have profited from, both monetarially and hedonically. That said, in the long run (i.e. After the death of the older baby boomers, unfortunately), multiple chickens will return to roost. In other words, even a supine Latino underclass will have occasional deadly explosions, and when we add East Asians, and catastrophically, sub-Saharan Africans ro the mix, the chances of a a racial civil war dramatically increase.

    That’s a fairly accurate account of our recent political past.

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