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Following up my Taki’s column on Larry David, “Curb Your Self-Awareness,” here’s a self-aware excerpt from a 2001 interview by Emma Forrest with Rachel Weisz, the lovely Oscar-winning Jewish-British actress:

EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews. I was advised by an American agent when I was about 19 to change my surname. And I said “Why? Jews run Hollywood.” He said “Exactly.” He had a theory that all the executives think acting’s a job for shiksas.

EMMA: Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

RACHEL: In some way acting is prostitution, and Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate. Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

 
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  1. Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn’t.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    They're not married anymore? Wiki doesn't show a divorce.
    , @CAL2
    Weisz has had a solid career. It's been nothing to sneeze at and she hitting the age where actresses either get older lady roles or drop out of acting.

    IMDB shows her still married to Craig.
    , @Glaivester
    This interview would have come out right after The Mummy Returns, so I don't think Weisz would have been thinking of herself as unsuccessful at the time.

    Also, I'm thinking that Israeli Jews and diaspora Jews may be different categories on things like this.
    , @Olorin
    Related to your point, she was previously dating then married to Darren Aronofsky for something like a decade.

    Aronovsky at least recently was with quintessentially shiksesque bluegrass equestrienne Jennifer Lawrence, 20 years his junior.

    Appears they both went for Aryan blondes.

    It's interesting that Weisz, the daughter of an Austrian Jewish psychotherapist (mother), somehow misses her own projection. Onto other Jews, however...not goyim. Which perhaps counts as cultural evolution of a to-be-encouraged sort.

    , @theMann
    "Blondeness is nature's clearest warning signal of a naturally cold disposition" - Somerset Maugham.



    Not sure how he personally would have known that, but it is an accurate observation.
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  2. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey’s allegations are much more serious.

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    • Replies: @Langley
    I demand a homophobic posting about Spacey.

    Diversity baiting is our strength!
    , @DCThrowback
    you mean kevin spacey (((fowler))) right
    , @Cagey Beast
    I really think Steve Sailer is engaging in group therapy. ministry or tough love, rather than "Jew baiting". I think he wants you to take Jewish Emancipation to the next level and join the American republican project.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey’s allegations are much more serious.
     
    Yeah, and how about all the serious allegations about Bryan Singer.

    Uh, err, never mind...................
    , @Pericles
    Pedophilia, eh? Here's a party at Roland Emmerich's house (a few years old). It apparently had to do with 'pride'.

    https://www.queerty.com/content/docs/2009/06/emmerichparty1.jpg

    https://www.queerty.com/los-angeles-a-gays-gather-at-roland-emmerich-bryan-singers-post-pride-party-20090615

    https://twitter.com/FioSargenti/status/456985527120453632/photo/1

    See also: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=29497539

    Here is Bryan Singer with some friends.

    http://i48.tinypic.com/2bpjsl.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/caLJFv5.jpg
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-04/campaign_images/webdr08/18/18/heres-bryan-singer-dressed-as-a-priest-with-three-2-347-1397861831-0_dblbig.jpg

    Oh look, it's Gandalf

    http://i.imgur.com/e2GztSx.jpg

    , @Anonymouse
    watching the news last night i observed outloud (as others apparently did) that scoldings about sexual harrassment disseminated by ugly people of indeterminate gender are hilarious.
    , @Wilkey
    Which allegations against Spacey are more serious? There's one report of him drunkenly hitting on a 14y.o. Anthony Rapp when Spacey was 26. All the other reports appear to be of him hitting on men of age, if on the young side.

    The allegations against the two men are quite different. The ones against Spacey do seem weirder in ways. Him fondling young men in public, including (allegedly) the 18 y.o. son of Richard Dreyfuss *while his dad was in the room.* Spacey is not an especially big man, so disparate strength was not a huge issue, especially when all his targets were men.

    The allegations against Weinstein feature a very large man harassing young women, in the privacy of his hotel room while he was in the position of making hiring decisions which could make or break careers.

    If you think the two cases are remotely similar then all I can say is seek professional help, because I doubt anyone here can help you.
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  3. the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews

    Notice how quickly Weisz corrects that misapprehension.

    There may be no concept so misapplied as self-loathing.

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    You are correct - "self-loathing" whites or "self-loathing" Jews. Quite the opposite - "self-congratulating" whites or Jews. They pat themselves on the back for their fashionably enlightened opinions and beliefs. It's a substitute for personal integrity.
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  4. Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a ‘race’, when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain’s second national anthem, William Blake’s Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

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    Perhaps its because they arent nearly as powerful as US Jews so they behave a bit better.
    , @syonredux

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?
     
    Numbers matter. The pre-1848 Jewish population (largely Sephardic) in Anglo-America/the USA was very well integrated. Things started to shift with the German-Jewish Influx after 1848, but the real turning point was the massive inundation of Ostjuden in the late 19th-early 20th century.
    , @Discordiax
    Speculating....

    British Jews and American Jews both assimilated, but in different contexts. British Jews assimilated into a demographically overwhelming, self-confident "founding stock". So, in school, little Benjamin lined up with little Nigel, little Edmund, little Winston, etc.

    American Jews assimilated into a context where the founding stock was, locally, in demographic retreat. There weren't a lot of "founding stock Americans" around in the big immigrant cities. So little Benjamin lined up with little Tony the Italian kid, little PJ the Irish kid, little Stan the Polish kid, etc. Ellis Island America was a composite of more-or-less harmonious tribes, who reciprocally influenced each other against the background of inherited Anglo-American culture.
    , @biz
    First off, this is not true:

    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a ‘race’
     
    I know, I know, Mike Wallace's awkward interview with Morgan Freeman 35 years ago which will forever be on endless loop here, but aside from that one incident, if there is one thing that American Jews on the Left and Right agree on, it is that they are white. The former because they believe that privilege is real and the po' folks are being kept down, and the latter because they are proud that they have successfully assimilated to the highest socioeconomic culture.

    Around here people are fond of sarcastically citing Tim Wise's "fellow white people" rant so it is strange to now claim that American Jews are presenting themselves as a distinct race.

    In fact, having experienced both educated American and British worldviews, I can say that it is the (non-Jewish) British people who are more likely to view being Jewish as a distinct ethnicity (not race, of course) whereas (non-Jewish) Americans often view being Jewish (incorrectly) as strictly a religious choice.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?
     
    American Jews are highly integrated, as are British Jews, so yes, it is all an illusion.

    The one difference that is sociologically interesting is that British Jews overwhelmingly support the Tory party.
    , @dearieme
    I've long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can't be sure because I don't know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I'm wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and atheists who were spared attending church. So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off he was left with the Jews. He formed a high opinion of them.

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks. Can it be true: in the US both blacks and Jews are atypically troublesome? If so, why? If not, why the impression?

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  5. O'Really says:

    Ironic that Ms. Weisz left her Jewish husband for James Bond!

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  6. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anony-mouse
    Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn't.

    They’re not married anymore? Wiki doesn’t show a divorce.

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  7. Langley says:
    @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    I demand a homophobic posting about Spacey.

    Diversity baiting is our strength!

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  8. Flip says:

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

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    I always thought porn stars are actually worse than prostitutes. At least prostitutes play their trade in private
    , @phil
    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as "speech". Jews are not so involved in prostitution.
    , @njguy73

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.
     
    The first makes Black people rich, the second makes White people rich. Just like Chris Rock put it, only White people can profit from pain. If most pimps were White, there'd be a whorehouse in every strip mall between the Subway and the nail salon. If Hugh Hefner and Bob Guccione had been Jheri-curled Negroes, having a porno mag would get you 60 years in jail.

    No, I'm not Tiny Duck posting under another name. I'm just a person who knows the truth when he sees it.
    , @Corn
    Sex for pay is legal in porn precisely because it’s on film.

    Fun historical trivia: During the late ‘70s and early ‘80s XXX movie production in the USA shifted from chilly San Francisco and gritty NYC to sunny Southern California. The LAPD and LA County Sheriff’s Department often would raid porn movie sets and arrest directors, crew members, possibly cast for “pandering”. That’s a charge that means something akin to pimping IIRC. Eventually some defendants mounted a free speech defense and it worked. In 1988 the California Supreme Court ruled that arresting pornographers on vice and morals charges was “an end run around the First Anendment”.

    Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it.
    , @Flip
    From George Carlin
    "I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? I can't follow the logic on that one at all! Of all the things you can do, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world. In the army they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm! Maybe I'm not supposed to understand it..."
    , @Foreign Expert
    In several Asian countries what takes place between one man and one woman is a private affair, as long as no third party is involved. Makes sense to me.
    , @BB753
    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I'm aware of.
    , @scrivener3
    Read The Painter Bird. There is a woman character who is young and slightly crazy who will sleep with most men. The women of the town band together catch her and torture her.

    A market in sex undermines monogamous family structure. If some women are selling it other women will have a hard time finding a male provider for her and her children. I would guess part of the reason women have less power collectively in Japan is that prostitution is more accepted in Japan. Many religions condemn sex outside of a marriage probably for the same family strengthening purposes, no?
    , @Amasius

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal

     

    It's a pincer attack between feminists and the ghost of American Puritanism.
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  9. @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    you mean kevin spacey (((fowler))) right

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    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I checked Wikipedia and nothing about him being Jewish. Far from it.

    From Wikipedia:

    Randy Fowler (from whom Spacey is estranged)[13] has stated that their father, whom he described as a racist "Nazi supporter", was sexually and physically abusive, and that Spacey had shut down emotionally and become "very sly and smart" to avoid whippings.

    I wonder if the abuse turned Kevin Spacey gay.
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  10. CAL2 says:
    @anony-mouse
    Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn't.

    Weisz has had a solid career. It’s been nothing to sneeze at and she hitting the age where actresses either get older lady roles or drop out of acting.

    IMDB shows her still married to Craig.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    She was too pretty for Deborah Lipstadt
    , @guest
    Audiences still want to see her naked butt, judging by the movie I just saw where she plays Hypatia, who took a lot of baths. Though that might have been a number of years old by now.
    , @James Bowery
    Weisz had her son with a Jew and then divorced him when she was no longer fertile to marry Craig.

    By the way, I can't imagine why Wikipedia is such a good source for this kind of Jewish porn.
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  11. @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    I really think Steve Sailer is engaging in group therapy. ministry or tough love, rather than “Jew baiting”. I think he wants you to take Jewish Emancipation to the next level and join the American republican project.

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  12. Zoodles says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a 'race', when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain's second national anthem, William Blake's Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    Perhaps its because they arent nearly as powerful as US Jews so they behave a bit better.

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  13. “RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews.” She said this in 2001 and as far as I know, she wasn’t condemned for saying it.
    But the ADL said this about Gary Oldman making the same observation in 2014: “[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood ‘is a town that’s run by Jews,’ was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism.”
    Maybe MS Weisz’s remark was overlooked because it was in a relatively little-known publication, whereas Oldman’s was in a Playboy interview, or maybe the fact that Oldman isn’t Jewish and MS Weisz is Jewish is a factor, or etc.

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    "Maybe MS Weisz’s remark was overlooked because it was in a relatively little-known publication, whereas Oldman’s was in a Playboy interview, or maybe the fact that Oldman isn’t Jewish and MS Weisz is Jewish is a factor, or etc."

    "Maybe"? LOL
    , @Moses

    “[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood ‘is a town that’s run by Jews,’ was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism.”
     
    I'm still confused at what "anti-Semitism" means. I think it means "anti-Jew" but that's just my guess.

    Hollywood is in fact a town run by Jews. Is it "anti-Jew" to state a fact like that? It is "anti-Jew" to notice patterns?

    Serious question.
    , @Simon in London
    "stomach-churning anti-Semitism"

    They would call claims that the ADL was run by Jews "stomach-churning anti-Semitism".
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  14. Andy says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    I always thought porn stars are actually worse than prostitutes. At least prostitutes play their trade in private

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    they all fancy Aryan blondes

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    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren’t lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don’t produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don’t associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think ‘Jewish woman’, they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn’t sing in the conventional sense. But that didn’t faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we’ve been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don’t really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn’t just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d’Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It’s like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby… with people still arguing whether he’s supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it’s NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it’s a plus. She got rid of ‘horowitz’ because it’s not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It’s news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality… any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

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    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?
     
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger...

    ...and those are just the ones who have won Oscars...

    ...blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson...

    ...BTW, Oscar winner Gwyneth Paltrow isn't a natural blonde, but one-time nominee Winona Ryder is.

    , @Mr. Anon
    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn't?

    Okay, vive la differance, and all.

    I've never understood this rap on "jewish-looking" women that they are ugly. It's an ethnic group. There tends to be a look that goes with it, and there's a distribution. Some are pretty, some are not. Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty. Bella Abzug............, not so much. Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.

    , @utu
    Hackman?
    , @syonredux

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don’t really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
     
    Jewish women of a certain generation seem to be oddly fixated on Winona Ryder. Take Sarah Silverman, for example:

    “It never occurred to me to do any-thing like change my name,” Silver-man said. “But when I first came to Hollywood I would ask executives, ‘If Winona Ryder kept her name — Winona Horowitz — would she be the ingénue of all these movies that she was starring in?’ She’s a brilliant actress, and should be [starring]. And they all said no. I was impressed by the honesty, but wow! There are a lot of hidden Jews on camera in Hollywood.”
     
    https://www.jweekly.com/2015/10/30/the-serious-side-of-sarah-silverman/

    “Winona Ryder was born Winona Horowitz but she changed it. What a classic sneaky Jew move.

    I have a Jewy last name and I would never think to change it, but I totally get Winona’s choice. With a name like “Horowitz,” you’re no longer an actress, you’re a Jewish actress. Just like I’m “Jewish comedian Sarah Silverman.”
     
    http://www.marilynhorowitz.com/the-bedwetter-by-sarah-silverman/

    Winona Ryder is a dirty fu[*****] Jew, and it is such a Jew move to trick everyone, to change her Jew-y last name
     

    Silverman gives some of the credit for her raised Jewish consciousness to her sister Susan — a rabbi married to Jewish Family & Life CEO Yossi Abramowitz — and to some to her experiences with Hollywood executives, who, she said, have more than once told her that Winona Ryder would not get roles if she were still Winona Horowitz. “That fact sickens me,” she said.
     
    http://forward.com/articles/9067/is-america-ready-for-sarah-silverman/

    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself.....
    , @Dan Hayes
    Anon:

    Joe Franklin was a Tin Pan Alley denizen who discovered Barbara Streisand. Years later he reminisced who would have thought "she had those pipes"!
    , @Ian M.

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.
     

    It's strange to me that Humphrey Bogart didn't change his name. Seems every bit as bad as Archibald Leach.

    Didn't seem to hurt him though, so what do I know.

    The greatest (half) Jewish actor of all time changed his name from Fred Austerlitz to the much more elegant-sounding Fred Astaire. I don't know if he really counts as Jewish though, because his paternal Jewish grandparents had converted to Catholicism.

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Monroe was not a dummy. That was a part she played. Unfortunately, she played it too well, and people thought that was all there was to her.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Lena Dunham would have been a better example than Amy Schumer.

    "It’s news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors."
     
    Rachael's assertion was, "Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate." So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    Also, you should get a Commenting Handle. I would highlight it as a preferred commenter. Even if I don't agree with everything you write, your comments are original and provocative.
    , @AndrewR
    As bad as Amy Schumer is, she is superior to Lena Dunham, whom you somehow neglected to mention, in almost every way.
    , @Anonymous

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
     
    Same goes for Jewish men. Woody Allen is a prime example. Hollywood would never cast him as a male star and sex symbol, so he cast himself as one in his movies, albeit a neurotic one, and gets gorgeous shiksas like Diane Keaton to fall all over him. Albert Brooks doesn't have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.
    , @Forbes
    Rachel Weisz had a nose job--is that evidence of not wanting to look Jewish?
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  17. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @CAL2
    Weisz has had a solid career. It's been nothing to sneeze at and she hitting the age where actresses either get older lady roles or drop out of acting.

    IMDB shows her still married to Craig.

    She was too pretty for Deborah Lipstadt

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    Indeed, and she was portraying a blatant liar.

    I posted Revisionist critiques of Weisz's Lipstadt in 'Denial', but heretofore Sailer has not allowed them to be seen.
    He flinches when the 'holocaust' is critiqued.

    Very well trained.

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  18. phil says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as “speech”. Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

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    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as “speech”. Jews are not so involved in prostitution.
     
    Many women I've talked to over the years (including my wife) feel that prostitution should be legal.

    Regarding Jews in the trade: I dated a Jewish woman who had been a madam. When I knew her, she was the owner and editor of an adult publication.

    , @Anonymouse
    Actually jews were known as brothel keepers back in Tsarist Russia.
    , @a reader

    Jews are not so involved in prostitution.
     
    Really?
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  19. njguy73 says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    The first makes Black people rich, the second makes White people rich. Just like Chris Rock put it, only White people can profit from pain. If most pimps were White, there’d be a whorehouse in every strip mall between the Subway and the nail salon. If Hugh Hefner and Bob Guccione had been Jheri-curled Negroes, having a porno mag would get you 60 years in jail.

    No, I’m not Tiny Duck posting under another name. I’m just a person who knows the truth when he sees it.

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    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it. Why are they leaving that on the table?

    White people make plenty off the drug trade (though not so much on the street level.) Especially marijuana. Why isn't that legal?

    There are an awful awful lot of white prostitutes. I'm sure there are white men profiting off of them, even if they aren't formally called "pimps."

    That's one of the weaker Chris Rock bits.
    , @Karl
    19 njguy73 > If most pimps were White, they wouldn't bitch when the strip mall said, "yeah ok, but you have to pay rent"


    fixed it for you!

    don't believe me? Go visit Curacao.
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  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    As a general rule with female singers of whatever race, the better they sound the worse they look.

    I’m talking about actual singing of course, not lip-syncing and autotuning.

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    It probably depends on vocal range. Women who can sing the high notes, like Mariah Carey and Kate Bush, tend to be better looking than women with deep vocals (like Aretha Franklin and Adele). I don't know much about dance music, but you'll probably find those women with the ethereal voices you here on trance tracks are relatively attractive.

    1970s UK rock/folk vocalist Annie Haslam was relatively attractive and could certainly hit the high notes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQlEdPL66Q

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  21. Danand says:

    Do me a favor, my people, and stick your suffering heritage up your suffering ass; I happen also to be a human being!”

    Philip Roth, Portnoy’s Complaint

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  22. She makes an interesting point :”. Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.” Helmut Newton whose photography of women I think is some of the best ever done fancied tall type Aryan blondes and similar women. I believe he escaped Nazi Germany as teenager and was basically in love with the Amazon Babes for his models. In fact, I know that his models had to have their own nude Polaroids before he would consider them because he had certain requirements even for the most beautiful women.

    I don’t think there was anything sick in his ideas like the Jewish pervs now. He got along with his models quite well. He was looking for a particular power look in his women.

    Ashkenazi Jews mate assortatively (phenotypically) which is responsible for many of their genetic problems. As group they are not that good looking in most people’s eyes. However, Ashkenazi Jews who mated with Northern Italian women through the centuries have rather beautiful female off spring in my opinion.

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  23. foobc2 says:

    Aryans have never been blonde, ever. If you never spoke a Sanskrit derived language nor followed the Aryan religion (Hinduism), then by definition you could never be Aryan.

    Aryan – only – appears in the Hindu (v)Eddas, a Sanskrit/Hindi word used by the Aryans to self describe their own Aryan religion and their language. Along with the holy (and only) Hindu Swastika, the red forehead dot (also religious) is called laltika.

    There are 500 million or so Aryans in India (the other 500 million or so being of the Dravidian race)

    Red, brown and black hair are all common but blonde was never common to the people described in the Eddas (except for some edge cases, maybe Indra but that’s about it really).

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    There's no evidence for the popular conflation of Aryanism with blondism. The homeland of the Aryans appears to have been Central Asia, while the blond/blue eye phenotype originated on the Baltic coast. That's a difference of a thousand miles.
    , @Andy
    Most specialists believe that when the Aryans reach India they mixed with the existing Dravidian population. Thus most languages in India are Indoeuropean, even though the phenotype of the Indians is different from the Europeans (yet, southern Indians, where the Aryans did not reach, tend to have darker skin than northern Indians)
    , @Andy
    By the way, it is possible that Aryans, though light skinned, were not really blond. Aryans, originally from the Eurasian steppe, when they expand to Northern Europe probably mingle with other peoples (perhaps connected with the finno-urics)
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  24. njguy73 says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…

    …and those are just the ones who have won Oscars…

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    …BTW, Oscar winner Gwyneth Paltrow isn’t a natural blonde, but one-time nominee Winona Ryder is.

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    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She's very entertaining!

    Television stars aren't paid as much as they use to be. For example, Aniston made $1.5 mil per episode on Friends 15 years ago and the other 5 made $1 mil each, but it looks like from Forbes' latest that that million dollar per episode level is reached only by Vergara and the girl on "Big Bang Theory."

    In the late 1990s, NBC offered Seinfeld $5 mil per episode for one more year, which he turned down. I can't imagine anyone is close to that level now. There are a lot more shows, and the networks have innovated a lot of types of shows that aren't as dependent upon star actors.

    But it's a good era to be an actor of a certain age because you'll likely be working regularly because there are so many shows now.

    , @Anon
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…


    Basinger is a babe type. Lange is ancient history. She was in KING KONG and sort of faded.

    As for the others, they are blonde or semi-blonde but not the blonde goddess/bimbo type. Streep was never sexy. Blanchett isn't a looker at all. Witherspoon is cute but no hottie, and she rode on her comedic talent. Foster is just barely blonde, and her career has been an odd one difficult to pigeonhole.

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    Again, you're missing the point. By 'blonde', we don't mean someone with blonde hair. I mean Streisand could pass as blonde. Most of the actresses you mentioned are NOT the 'aryan' type. Watts is too girlish to be a real sex symbol. Close looks like Mrs. Doubtfire. Not ugly but no beauty. Like Streep, she coasted on talent than looks. Linney same thing. Next-door-girl-woman type.

    Now, Shue and Stone are Wasp Blonde types, but Shue faded and Stone sunk like a stone after CASINO. Pfeiffer had a blonde babe role in SCARFACE but most of her roles went against type.
    Dern is likable but no looker. She looks like Olive Oyl and Sweat Pea. Uma actually looks exotic. She could almost pass for non-white. Kate Hudson is half-Jewish. Isn't her mother Goldie Hawn?

    This becomes further complicated by the fact that some non-blondes had the 'Aryan' look. Greta Garbo is a famous case.

    By Aryan-Wasp blonde type, we mean someone like Veronica Lake. Or Grace Kelly(never liked her), the kind of women Hitchcock slobbered after. And Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich.

    That archetype was more common in Classic Hollywood, but even back then, the great majority of the big famous actresses were not blonde. Rosalind Russell, Barbra Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Kathrine Hepburn, Donna Reed, Rita Hayworth(though her hair was dyed blonde in LADY FROM SHANGHAI), Audrey Hepburn, Joan Fontaine, Bette Davis, Jean Simmons, and etc.

    This stuff about how Hollywood used to be dominated by big tall Wasp types and that Dustin Hoffman was something NEW and DARING in THE GRADUATE is total nonsense.

    For one thing, many of those famous wasp actors were not tall.
    And one of the biggest stars was young Mickey Rooney, and everyone knew he wasn't tall. Paul Muni had lots of big roles. James Cagney was this runty Irishman and one of the biggest stars. Bogart wasn't tall and not wasp-looking(though a wasp), and he was one of the biggest stars. Edward G. Robinson, Jewish, was a big name. And Perkins the weirdo did youth roles before Hoffman came along. James Dean in REBEL looked downright demented. And his best pal was Sal Mineo.

    The Aryan Blonde Wasp domination is one of those tropes that never go away. It's like Haven Monahan.
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  25. syonredux says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a 'race', when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain's second national anthem, William Blake's Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    Numbers matter. The pre-1848 Jewish population (largely Sephardic) in Anglo-America/the USA was very well integrated. Things started to shift with the German-Jewish Influx after 1848, but the real turning point was the massive inundation of Ostjuden in the late 19th-early 20th century.

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    I think that the German Jews tended to be Republican. The real troublemakers were the Eastern European Jews who shifted from Orthodox Judaism to some form of radicalism in one generation.
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  26. Bill P says:

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes? I don’t get it. Most (real) blondes are no more attractive than anyone else, many have a tendency to be kind of beefy and red-faced, and when past the flower of their youth they often have a severe, almost masculine bearing and countenance.

    I don’t have any problem with blondes (several people in my family are really fair blondes), but they aren’t all that. Every now and then you get a blonde stunner, but no more often than a black, brown or red-haired beauty.

    The only thing I can think of that may explain Jewish interest in them is the scarcity factor. There just aren’t that many real blondes where Jews tend to live. But that raises the question of why, if Jewish guys like blondes so much, they don’t just head off to places like Fargo to find wives. Plenty of blondes there. Nice big ones, too.

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    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?
     
    It isn't just a jewish thing. A lot of gentile guys think that blondes are more attractive. I don't happen to agree, but there it is.
    , @S. Anonyia
    I’m not sure what their issue is, but propagating blondes in the media results in up to half of adult American white women lightening their hair. Natural adult blondes are incredibly rare outside some pockets of the Midwest yet it seems like 3/4 or more of Hollywood’s white female leads are blondes or redheads.

    All those dye jobs are extremely damaging and result in strawlike hair. They apparently fool men, too. I know guys who have no idea their girlfriend/wife is not a natural blonde.

    Only good trend I’ve noticed fewer parents are getting their daughters hair dyed in elementary/middle school. Mothers around here used to start taking their daughters to the salon around age 10 or 11.
    , @Almost Missouri
    As another commenter said, it's not just the Jews. But it's not just the Euro-gentiles either. Arabs, Africans, Latin Americans, ... actually pretty much every ethnic group on earth seems to find blonde women alluring, even if at the ur-source--upper Midwest, northern Europe--many (most?) are as you say.

    Why? Dunno. Scarcity? Self-fulfilling cycle of media portrayal? Some universal preconscious association of fairness with good?

    Jews get a disproportionate rap for this because they have been disproportionately successful in the US and West Europe, so they have been in a position to act on this near-universal fascination by marrying/exploiting/whatevering the blondes (real or imagined) they come into contact with. But they're not doing anything anyone else wouldn't do given the chance.

    BTW, the upper Midwest does indeed have "nice big ones", but I notice that the blondes who emigrate away from the homeland tend to be the more conventionally pretty ones. Not surprising since they are more likely to gain the supposedly glamorous opportunities (however tawdry, exploitative and deadend those "opportunities" actually are). But the point is that this process leads to the (mis)perception everywhere else that blonde = statuesque Aryan. Sort of like the Chinese emigrating to the West tend to be disproportionately the intelligent and ambitious ones, leading to a (mis)perception among Westerners that all Chinese must be like that. Maybe there needs to be a term for this process, sort of like "metaethnic frontier" or whatever that term is that we use to describe the phenomenon of high-asabiya borderer groups. "Migratory skew"? "Osmotic derepresentation"?
    , @Unzerker

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?
     
    All societies prefer their women to be fair. And blondes are the fairest of them all.

    It's really that simple.
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  27. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn’t?

    Okay, vive la differance, and all.

    I’ve never understood this rap on “jewish-looking” women that they are ugly. It’s an ethnic group. There tends to be a look that goes with it, and there’s a distribution. Some are pretty, some are not. Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty. Bella Abzug…………, not so much. Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.

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    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn’t?
     
    Young Susan Sontag was kind of cute, especially when measured against other female intellectuals:

    https://i0.wp.com/www.brainpickings.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/susansontag5.jpg?fit=980%2C676&ssl=1
    , @Clyde

    Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.
     
    And slightly cross eyed which for some weird reason I have been imprinted to like and be fascinated by in women.
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  28. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bill P
    What's this thing Jews have for blondes? I don't get it. Most (real) blondes are no more attractive than anyone else, many have a tendency to be kind of beefy and red-faced, and when past the flower of their youth they often have a severe, almost masculine bearing and countenance.

    I don't have any problem with blondes (several people in my family are really fair blondes), but they aren't all that. Every now and then you get a blonde stunner, but no more often than a black, brown or red-haired beauty.

    The only thing I can think of that may explain Jewish interest in them is the scarcity factor. There just aren't that many real blondes where Jews tend to live. But that raises the question of why, if Jewish guys like blondes so much, they don't just head off to places like Fargo to find wives. Plenty of blondes there. Nice big ones, too.

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?

    It isn’t just a jewish thing. A lot of gentile guys think that blondes are more attractive. I don’t happen to agree, but there it is.

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    I find women with light or medium brown hair who dye their hair blonde more attractive than natural blondes for some reason. This is coming from a guy who was born a"tow head" (white hair) and now as an adult has hair that is just a tad darker than Boris Johnson's.
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  29. Wally says:
    @Andrew Grange
    "RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews." She said this in 2001 and as far as I know, she wasn't condemned for saying it.
    But the ADL said this about Gary Oldman making the same observation in 2014: "[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood 'is a town that’s run by Jews,' was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism."
    Maybe MS Weisz's remark was overlooked because it was in a relatively little-known publication, whereas Oldman's was in a Playboy interview, or maybe the fact that Oldman isn't Jewish and MS Weisz is Jewish is a factor, or etc.

    “Maybe MS Weisz’s remark was overlooked because it was in a relatively little-known publication, whereas Oldman’s was in a Playboy interview, or maybe the fact that Oldman isn’t Jewish and MS Weisz is Jewish is a factor, or etc.”

    “Maybe”? LOL

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  30. @njguy73

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?
     
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger...

    ...and those are just the ones who have won Oscars...

    ...blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson...

    ...BTW, Oscar winner Gwyneth Paltrow isn't a natural blonde, but one-time nominee Winona Ryder is.

    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn’t had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she’s worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

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    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress,
     
    And her father, long-time soap opera actor John Aniston, was born Giannis Anastasakis. More evidence that Jews weren't the only ones Anglicizing their names....
    , @Forbes
    All the more shocking given Anniston's man-jaw and apparent inability to act.
    , @JA
    What actress made the most money in film & TV overall?

    I'm guessing Lucy.
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  31. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey’s allegations are much more serious.

    Yeah, and how about all the serious allegations about Bryan Singer.

    Uh, err, never mind……………….

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    Yeah you would know all about Singer, wouldn't you?
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  32. utu says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Hackman?

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    Gene Hackman is not Jewish. Per Wikipedia he is of Pennsylvania Dutch(German), English and Scottish ancestry.
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  33. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    She was too pretty for Deborah Lipstadt

    Indeed, and she was portraying a blatant liar.

    I posted Revisionist critiques of Weisz’s Lipstadt in ‘Denial’, but heretofore Sailer has not allowed them to be seen.
    He flinches when the ‘holocaust’ is critiqued.

    Very well trained.

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  34. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don’t really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.

    Jewish women of a certain generation seem to be oddly fixated on Winona Ryder. Take Sarah Silverman, for example:

    “It never occurred to me to do any-thing like change my name,” Silver-man said. “But when I first came to Hollywood I would ask executives, ‘If Winona Ryder kept her name — Winona Horowitz — would she be the ingénue of all these movies that she was starring in?’ She’s a brilliant actress, and should be [starring]. And they all said no. I was impressed by the honesty, but wow! There are a lot of hidden Jews on camera in Hollywood.”

    https://www.jweekly.com/2015/10/30/the-serious-side-of-sarah-silverman/

    “Winona Ryder was born Winona Horowitz but she changed it. What a classic sneaky Jew move.

    I have a Jewy last name and I would never think to change it, but I totally get Winona’s choice. With a name like “Horowitz,” you’re no longer an actress, you’re a Jewish actress. Just like I’m “Jewish comedian Sarah Silverman.”

    http://www.marilynhorowitz.com/the-bedwetter-by-sarah-silverman/

    Winona Ryder is a dirty fu[*****] Jew, and it is such a Jew move to trick everyone, to change her Jew-y last name

    Silverman gives some of the credit for her raised Jewish consciousness to her sister Susan — a rabbi married to Jewish Family & Life CEO Yossi Abramowitz — and to some to her experiences with Hollywood executives, who, she said, have more than once told her that Winona Ryder would not get roles if she were still Winona Horowitz. “That fact sickens me,” she said.

    http://forward.com/articles/9067/is-america-ready-for-sarah-silverman/

    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

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    Lol.

    As for Winona Ryder getting better roles than Winona Horowitz would, isn't that an irrational prejudice of the part of the Jewish executives rather than evidence of any anti-semitism? I seriously doubt that there are that many people who would be turned off seeing a movie because they thought one of the actors was a Jew.

    "That Edward Scissorhands looks a delightful romp, I think I'll buy a ticket - wait a minute... Horowitz!? My God! This Hollywood production employs Jews! Cancel the babysitter, Dorothy, we're staying in tonight!"

    , @Anon
    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    The difference, of course, is 'silverman', Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn't. It sounds like horror-wits.

    In many cases, it was not to hide Jewishness. I mean no one would have thought Bob Zimmerman is not Jewish because of the name change. It was just part of the mystique to project a public persona with a different name.
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  35. @njguy73

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?
     
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger...

    ...and those are just the ones who have won Oscars...

    ...blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson...

    ...BTW, Oscar winner Gwyneth Paltrow isn't a natural blonde, but one-time nominee Winona Ryder is.

    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn’t had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she’s worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She’s very entertaining!

    Television stars aren’t paid as much as they use to be. For example, Aniston made $1.5 mil per episode on Friends 15 years ago and the other 5 made $1 mil each, but it looks like from Forbes’ latest that that million dollar per episode level is reached only by Vergara and the girl on “Big Bang Theory.”

    In the late 1990s, NBC offered Seinfeld $5 mil per episode for one more year, which he turned down. I can’t imagine anyone is close to that level now. There are a lot more shows, and the networks have innovated a lot of types of shows that aren’t as dependent upon star actors.

    But it’s a good era to be an actor of a certain age because you’ll likely be working regularly because there are so many shows now.

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    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She’s very entertaining!
     
    Interestingly, she was told to darken her hair during her early days in Hollywood. It seems that the casting directors thought that she didn't look sufficiently Hispanic with fair hair....
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Good points.
    , @njguy73
    Had Jennifer Lawrence played Bill Engvall's daughter for ten seasons, she'd find it hard to avoid typecasting, too.

    Sofia Vergara and Kaley Cuoco will be in the same situation soon.
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  36. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Anon:

    Joe Franklin was a Tin Pan Alley denizen who discovered Barbara Streisand. Years later he reminisced who would have thought “she had those pipes”!

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  37. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress,

    And her father, long-time soap opera actor John Aniston, was born Giannis Anastasakis. More evidence that Jews weren’t the only ones Anglicizing their names….

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  38. syonredux says:
    @Mr. Anon
    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn't?

    Okay, vive la differance, and all.

    I've never understood this rap on "jewish-looking" women that they are ugly. It's an ethnic group. There tends to be a look that goes with it, and there's a distribution. Some are pretty, some are not. Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty. Bella Abzug............, not so much. Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.

    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn’t?

    Young Susan Sontag was kind of cute, especially when measured against other female intellectuals:

    https://i0.wp.com/www.brainpickings.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/susansontag5.jpg?fit=980%2C676&ssl=1

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    That picture might be the only one I've seen that makes her look good. She looks like a less attractive Eleanor Bron, (who, BTW, was one of those enigmatic beauties who defined the 1960s).
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  39. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She's very entertaining!

    Television stars aren't paid as much as they use to be. For example, Aniston made $1.5 mil per episode on Friends 15 years ago and the other 5 made $1 mil each, but it looks like from Forbes' latest that that million dollar per episode level is reached only by Vergara and the girl on "Big Bang Theory."

    In the late 1990s, NBC offered Seinfeld $5 mil per episode for one more year, which he turned down. I can't imagine anyone is close to that level now. There are a lot more shows, and the networks have innovated a lot of types of shows that aren't as dependent upon star actors.

    But it's a good era to be an actor of a certain age because you'll likely be working regularly because there are so many shows now.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She’s very entertaining!

    Interestingly, she was told to darken her hair during her early days in Hollywood. It seems that the casting directors thought that she didn’t look sufficiently Hispanic with fair hair….

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    Winona Ryder is a natural blonde. She has played most of her roles with dark hair.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Sofia Vergara is from Colombia. Our host Steve S. has observed on the Mexican tv and movie industries fixation on blondes. I don't know about South America.
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  40. Corn says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    Sex for pay is legal in porn precisely because it’s on film.

    Fun historical trivia: During the late ‘70s and early ‘80s XXX movie production in the USA shifted from chilly San Francisco and gritty NYC to sunny Southern California. The LAPD and LA County Sheriff’s Department often would raid porn movie sets and arrest directors, crew members, possibly cast for “pandering”. That’s a charge that means something akin to pimping IIRC. Eventually some defendants mounted a free speech defense and it worked. In 1988 the California Supreme Court ruled that arresting pornographers on vice and morals charges was “an end run around the First Anendment”.

    Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it.

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    39 Corn > Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it


    according to what i've read, that's only true in one court district. There was ONE case, and the prosecutor never appealed it. Hence, a court precedent in that one jurisdiction

    Also: the male actors aren't paying the actress for sex. So it gets into "elements of the offense"

    Consider: is it illegal if I offer to pay iSteve's wife to have sex with him tomorrow night?

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  41. Peterike says:

    “Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. ”

    Yeah seriously. I can’t think of a single film about Jews, Jewish life or the Holocaust.

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    Back to the main point, you don't see many SEXY Holocaust movies. I don't think the audience was supposed to be elbowing eachother, raising their eyebrows, going, "Eh?" during the Schindler's List Auschwitz shower scene.
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  42. @syonredux

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don’t really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
     
    Jewish women of a certain generation seem to be oddly fixated on Winona Ryder. Take Sarah Silverman, for example:

    “It never occurred to me to do any-thing like change my name,” Silver-man said. “But when I first came to Hollywood I would ask executives, ‘If Winona Ryder kept her name — Winona Horowitz — would she be the ingénue of all these movies that she was starring in?’ She’s a brilliant actress, and should be [starring]. And they all said no. I was impressed by the honesty, but wow! There are a lot of hidden Jews on camera in Hollywood.”
     
    https://www.jweekly.com/2015/10/30/the-serious-side-of-sarah-silverman/

    “Winona Ryder was born Winona Horowitz but she changed it. What a classic sneaky Jew move.

    I have a Jewy last name and I would never think to change it, but I totally get Winona’s choice. With a name like “Horowitz,” you’re no longer an actress, you’re a Jewish actress. Just like I’m “Jewish comedian Sarah Silverman.”
     
    http://www.marilynhorowitz.com/the-bedwetter-by-sarah-silverman/

    Winona Ryder is a dirty fu[*****] Jew, and it is such a Jew move to trick everyone, to change her Jew-y last name
     

    Silverman gives some of the credit for her raised Jewish consciousness to her sister Susan — a rabbi married to Jewish Family & Life CEO Yossi Abramowitz — and to some to her experiences with Hollywood executives, who, she said, have more than once told her that Winona Ryder would not get roles if she were still Winona Horowitz. “That fact sickens me,” she said.
     
    http://forward.com/articles/9067/is-america-ready-for-sarah-silverman/

    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself.....

    Lol.

    As for Winona Ryder getting better roles than Winona Horowitz would, isn’t that an irrational prejudice of the part of the Jewish executives rather than evidence of any anti-semitism? I seriously doubt that there are that many people who would be turned off seeing a movie because they thought one of the actors was a Jew.

    “That Edward Scissorhands looks a delightful romp, I think I’ll buy a ticket – wait a minute… Horowitz!? My God! This Hollywood production employs Jews! Cancel the babysitter, Dorothy, we’re staying in tonight!”

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  43. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    2001. Only 16 years ago it was OK to say it and it was OK to publish it. Today, it’s basically unthinkable. This is just another indication of how deep into PC depravity this country has sunk.

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  44. Glaivester says: • Website
    @anony-mouse
    Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn't.

    This interview would have come out right after The Mummy Returns, so I don’t think Weisz would have been thinking of herself as unsuccessful at the time.

    Also, I’m thinking that Israeli Jews and diaspora Jews may be different categories on things like this.

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  45. @Bill P
    What's this thing Jews have for blondes? I don't get it. Most (real) blondes are no more attractive than anyone else, many have a tendency to be kind of beefy and red-faced, and when past the flower of their youth they often have a severe, almost masculine bearing and countenance.

    I don't have any problem with blondes (several people in my family are really fair blondes), but they aren't all that. Every now and then you get a blonde stunner, but no more often than a black, brown or red-haired beauty.

    The only thing I can think of that may explain Jewish interest in them is the scarcity factor. There just aren't that many real blondes where Jews tend to live. But that raises the question of why, if Jewish guys like blondes so much, they don't just head off to places like Fargo to find wives. Plenty of blondes there. Nice big ones, too.

    I’m not sure what their issue is, but propagating blondes in the media results in up to half of adult American white women lightening their hair. Natural adult blondes are incredibly rare outside some pockets of the Midwest yet it seems like 3/4 or more of Hollywood’s white female leads are blondes or redheads.

    All those dye jobs are extremely damaging and result in strawlike hair. They apparently fool men, too. I know guys who have no idea their girlfriend/wife is not a natural blonde.

    Only good trend I’ve noticed fewer parents are getting their daughters hair dyed in elementary/middle school. Mothers around here used to start taking their daughters to the salon around age 10 or 11.

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    Natural adult blondes are incredibly rare outside some pockets of the Midwest yet it seems like 3/4 or more of Hollywood’s white female leads are blondes or redheads.
     
    Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration. Anywhere where northern Europeans remain a majority of the population has a fair number of blondes. These places, however, do not include NYC, LA, Florida and other heavily-Jewish locales.

    Here in NW Washington state at my youngest son's preschool, which is mainly attended by working class white people's kids, about 75% of the kids are tow-headed. Probably a quarter of them will still be blond as adults. We also have lots of redheads where I live -- more than I've seen anywhere else including Europe. My wife is northern European, and even she's surprised by all the redheads. The county is about 75% northern Euro white, mainly British Isles, Dutch and German ancestry.
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  46. Ian M. says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It’s strange to me that Humphrey Bogart didn’t change his name. Seems every bit as bad as Archibald Leach.

    Didn’t seem to hurt him though, so what do I know.

    The greatest (half) Jewish actor of all time changed his name from Fred Austerlitz to the much more elegant-sounding Fred Astaire. I don’t know if he really counts as Jewish though, because his paternal Jewish grandparents had converted to Catholicism.

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  47. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    That interview was conducted a mere 16 years ago yet its candor feels as if it belongs to another age.

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  48. Hail says: • Website

    RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews.

    According to the ADL’s Global Anti-Semitism Index Q9 (“Jews have too much control over the global media”), Rachel Weisz may be counted as person with anti-Semite tendencies. I believe ‘media’ conceptually encompasses ‘Hollywood’ in this case.

    The ADL finds that this particular anti-Semitic canard rises among among Gen. X and Y.

    British saying ‘Jews have too much control over global media’, by age group
    Born 1980 to 1996: 19%
    Born 1965 to 1979: 16%
    Born before 1965: 9%

    Rachel Weisz, British Jew, was born in 1970 (Generation X). Weisz is in the small minority among British Gen. X’ers, 84% of whom heroically believe that Jews do not “run” (as Weisz puts it) the media.

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  49. guest says:
    @njguy73

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.
     
    The first makes Black people rich, the second makes White people rich. Just like Chris Rock put it, only White people can profit from pain. If most pimps were White, there'd be a whorehouse in every strip mall between the Subway and the nail salon. If Hugh Hefner and Bob Guccione had been Jheri-curled Negroes, having a porno mag would get you 60 years in jail.

    No, I'm not Tiny Duck posting under another name. I'm just a person who knows the truth when he sees it.

    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it. Why are they leaving that on the table?

    White people make plenty off the drug trade (though not so much on the street level.) Especially marijuana. Why isn’t that legal?

    There are an awful awful lot of white prostitutes. I’m sure there are white men profiting off of them, even if they aren’t formally called “pimps.”

    That’s one of the weaker Chris Rock bits.

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    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it.
     
    I think they are now.
    https://i.imgur.com/mNcKAVu.png
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    @Mr. Anon

    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey’s allegations are much more serious.
     
    Yeah, and how about all the serious allegations about Bryan Singer.

    Uh, err, never mind...................

    Yeah you would know all about Singer, wouldn’t you?

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    Yeah you would know all about Singer, wouldn’t you?
     
    What's your problem? That Singer has some kind of affilliation that you find embarrassing? That sounds like your problem, not mine.

    You don't like him - well here's someone else:

    Marty Weiss

    or maybe this guy:

    Lou Perlman

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  51. guest says:
    @CAL2
    Weisz has had a solid career. It's been nothing to sneeze at and she hitting the age where actresses either get older lady roles or drop out of acting.

    IMDB shows her still married to Craig.

    Audiences still want to see her naked butt, judging by the movie I just saw where she plays Hypatia, who took a lot of baths. Though that might have been a number of years old by now.

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  52. guest says:
    @Peterike
    “Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. ”

    Yeah seriously. I can’t think of a single film about Jews, Jewish life or the Holocaust.

    Back to the main point, you don’t see many SEXY Holocaust movies. I don’t think the audience was supposed to be elbowing eachother, raising their eyebrows, going, “Eh?” during the Schindler’s List Auschwitz shower scene.

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    @njguy73

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?
     
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger...

    ...and those are just the ones who have won Oscars...

    ...blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson...

    ...BTW, Oscar winner Gwyneth Paltrow isn't a natural blonde, but one-time nominee Winona Ryder is.

    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…

    Basinger is a babe type. Lange is ancient history. She was in KING KONG and sort of faded.

    As for the others, they are blonde or semi-blonde but not the blonde goddess/bimbo type. Streep was never sexy. Blanchett isn’t a looker at all. Witherspoon is cute but no hottie, and she rode on her comedic talent. Foster is just barely blonde, and her career has been an odd one difficult to pigeonhole.

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair. I mean Streisand could pass as blonde. Most of the actresses you mentioned are NOT the ‘aryan’ type. Watts is too girlish to be a real sex symbol. Close looks like Mrs. Doubtfire. Not ugly but no beauty. Like Streep, she coasted on talent than looks. Linney same thing. Next-door-girl-woman type.

    Now, Shue and Stone are Wasp Blonde types, but Shue faded and Stone sunk like a stone after CASINO. Pfeiffer had a blonde babe role in SCARFACE but most of her roles went against type.
    Dern is likable but no looker. She looks like Olive Oyl and Sweat Pea. Uma actually looks exotic. She could almost pass for non-white. Kate Hudson is half-Jewish. Isn’t her mother Goldie Hawn?

    This becomes further complicated by the fact that some non-blondes had the ‘Aryan’ look. Greta Garbo is a famous case.

    By Aryan-Wasp blonde type, we mean someone like Veronica Lake. Or Grace Kelly(never liked her), the kind of women Hitchcock slobbered after. And Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich.

    That archetype was more common in Classic Hollywood, but even back then, the great majority of the big famous actresses were not blonde. Rosalind Russell, Barbra Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Kathrine Hepburn, Donna Reed, Rita Hayworth(though her hair was dyed blonde in LADY FROM SHANGHAI), Audrey Hepburn, Joan Fontaine, Bette Davis, Jean Simmons, and etc.

    This stuff about how Hollywood used to be dominated by big tall Wasp types and that Dustin Hoffman was something NEW and DARING in THE GRADUATE is total nonsense.

    For one thing, many of those famous wasp actors were not tall.
    And one of the biggest stars was young Mickey Rooney, and everyone knew he wasn’t tall. Paul Muni had lots of big roles. James Cagney was this runty Irishman and one of the biggest stars. Bogart wasn’t tall and not wasp-looking(though a wasp), and he was one of the biggest stars. Edward G. Robinson, Jewish, was a big name. And Perkins the weirdo did youth roles before Hoffman came along. James Dean in REBEL looked downright demented. And his best pal was Sal Mineo.

    The Aryan Blonde Wasp domination is one of those tropes that never go away. It’s like Haven Monahan.

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    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair.
     
    Moving the goalposts much? You said "superstar," not, "someone I'd like to do." Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    My point, and one that Sailer himself brought up when reviewing Chicago back in 2002, when Weinstein was at his Oscar-snagging peak, is this:

    Blonde woman don't need to have classic features to be considered as attractive as non-blondes. Zellweger and Zeta-Jones were marketed as equally hot.

    I'll put it in manosphere terms: to be considered Hollywood-worthy:
    - blondes need to be HB6
    - brunettes need to be HB8
    - redheads need to have jugs like Christina Hendricks, or acting chops like Julianne Moore

    , @Glaivester
    Like Streep, she coasted on talent [rather] than looks.

    It's terrible when someone decides to coast on their talent. Or when they coast on hard work. So unfair.
    , @Anonymous
    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of "Aryan" is not what most people's definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. "Aryan blonde" to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn't matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she's not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    There are also some really beautiful Jewish or half Jewish actresses who are/were quite successful, Natalie Portman, Goldie Hawn, Amanda Peet, Lisa Kudrow, even Rachel Weisz herself is quite successful. I don't think it's an anti-Jew thing, I think it's more a combination of your last name and how "ethnic" you look. Take Russell Wong and Keanu Reeves, both half Asian and good looking, Wong is a better actor but Reeves is much more successful because he has a non-Asian last name and a less Asian look.

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  54. @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Monroe was not a dummy. That was a part she played. Unfortunately, she played it too well, and people thought that was all there was to her.

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    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    , @LondonBob
    Monroe was an idiot, controlled by Mickey Cohen and his mobster pals, according LAPD detective Gary Wean, who had to tail Cohen.

    n 1960, the USA's presidential election was between Nixon (Eisenhower’s vice president) and John Kennedy. Kennedy was a legendary philanderer, and Cohen and friends tried exploiting JFK’s proclivities. According to legend, JFK met Marilyn Monroe through a connection with Frank Sinatra. Right there was a possible organized crime connection, but Gary wrote that another member of the “rat pack,” Joey Bishop (who knew Cohen well - Gary wrote that Bishop even worked for Cohen), came up with the idea of introducing Monroe to JFK, and Gary looked in on Peter Lawford’s (JFK’s in-law) beach-house party when JFK and Monroe were introduced, in 1960, during the Democratic national convention.

    As with Stompanato and Turner, Cohen underling Georgie Piscitelli became Monroe’s lover. Cohen got a tape of them in bed together and played it for Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamster boss who later received cement shoes from the Mafia and who was then feeling the heat from Attorney General Bobby Kennedy. They promised Hoffa a tape of JFK and Monroe in bed together (so that Hoffa could blackmail JFK into halting Bobby Kennedy’s efforts), but could never deliver. Monroe was being used as the world’s highest-class hooker. In 2013 and 2014, new allegations of Monroe/JFK sex tapes arose.

    Cohen and friends wanted to know what Kennedy's intentions were toward Israel. Monroe was supposed to elicit it during pillow talk. Monroe was controlled by mobsters and was kept on all manner of narcotic. When she became increasingly uncontrollable and potentially dangerous if she publicly talked about what was happening, she was murdered. Gary had Cohen under surveillance, and caught him and Begin having a conversation in Yiddish in a diner. They were talking about Kennedy, Israel, and how much money Kennedy was wasting on the Peace Corps and other programs.

    Gary's testimony regarding JFK, John Tower, Marilyn Monroe, Menachem Begin, Jack Ruby, and Mick Cohen is just part of his amazing tale, which he published at great risk with his book .There's a Fish in the Courthouse'.. By the year 2000, the only JFK assassination book that I was aware of that even mentioned Gary was Final Judgment, by Michael Collins Piper, who heavily relied on Gary’s testimony. Gary thought that Jewish gangsters were involved in interposing Hunt’s grand scheme. That does not mean that Allen Dulles (the CIA chief whom Kennedy fired over the Bay of Pigs, and who later served on the Warren Commission), J. Edgar Hoover, George Bush, and others were not also involved in interposing Hunt’s scheme and playing Hunt for a chump.
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    @syonredux

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don’t really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
     
    Jewish women of a certain generation seem to be oddly fixated on Winona Ryder. Take Sarah Silverman, for example:

    “It never occurred to me to do any-thing like change my name,” Silver-man said. “But when I first came to Hollywood I would ask executives, ‘If Winona Ryder kept her name — Winona Horowitz — would she be the ingénue of all these movies that she was starring in?’ She’s a brilliant actress, and should be [starring]. And they all said no. I was impressed by the honesty, but wow! There are a lot of hidden Jews on camera in Hollywood.”
     
    https://www.jweekly.com/2015/10/30/the-serious-side-of-sarah-silverman/

    “Winona Ryder was born Winona Horowitz but she changed it. What a classic sneaky Jew move.

    I have a Jewy last name and I would never think to change it, but I totally get Winona’s choice. With a name like “Horowitz,” you’re no longer an actress, you’re a Jewish actress. Just like I’m “Jewish comedian Sarah Silverman.”
     
    http://www.marilynhorowitz.com/the-bedwetter-by-sarah-silverman/

    Winona Ryder is a dirty fu[*****] Jew, and it is such a Jew move to trick everyone, to change her Jew-y last name
     

    Silverman gives some of the credit for her raised Jewish consciousness to her sister Susan — a rabbi married to Jewish Family & Life CEO Yossi Abramowitz — and to some to her experiences with Hollywood executives, who, she said, have more than once told her that Winona Ryder would not get roles if she were still Winona Horowitz. “That fact sickens me,” she said.
     
    http://forward.com/articles/9067/is-america-ready-for-sarah-silverman/

    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself.....

    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    The difference, of course, is ‘silverman’, Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn’t. It sounds like horror-wits.

    In many cases, it was not to hide Jewishness. I mean no one would have thought Bob Zimmerman is not Jewish because of the name change. It was just part of the mystique to project a public persona with a different name.

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    Cary Grant always felt like Archibald Leach. His psychiatrists always told that after making millions of people happy, he deserved to be Cary Grant. But he never believed them until one of them put him on LSD (then legal) and told him again and this time he believed his shrink.
    , @syonredux

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.
     
    Oh, peak Sarah Silverman was rather attractive......just not as attractive as peak Winona Ryder. Hence the envy.

    The difference, of course, is ‘silverman’, Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn’t. It sounds like horror-wits.
     
    Sarah Silverman did once graciously note that "Sarah Silverman" is a far more euphonious name than "Winona Horowitz".....
    , @syonredux
    In contrast to Sarah Silverman's resentment of Winona Ryder, note Amy Schumer's admiring take on Jennifer Lawrence. Schumer has noted that she likes looking at Lawrence as the "idealized" version of Amy Schumer.

    I suspect that the difference between Schumer and Silverman lies in the fact that Silverman is a lot closer in looks to Winona than Schumer is to Lawrence. We envy that which seems attainable....

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  56. @syonredux

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She’s very entertaining!
     
    Interestingly, she was told to darken her hair during her early days in Hollywood. It seems that the casting directors thought that she didn't look sufficiently Hispanic with fair hair....

    Winona Ryder is a natural blonde. She has played most of her roles with dark hair.

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  57. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Monroe was not a dummy. That was a part she played. Unfortunately, she played it too well, and people thought that was all there was to her.

    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a ‘nasty woman’ liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies’ egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

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    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies’ egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.
     
    That, or L. Ron invented a religion that's an asbestos meme amidst the conflagration of Hollywood degeneracy.

    And why shouldn't these men feel like they're "gods or masters of the universe"? You prefer trannies and numales?

    (Actually L. Ron was just a 1A sea-story bullshitter. Or so was the word as I heard it out east from the earlier generation of sf writers who were Navy men and/or shipbuilders.)

    , @Karl
    56 Anon > is really smart. So is Natalie Portman


    the Hebrew movie she made in Israel got a lot of adoring reviews amongst the North TelAviv liberal set - and the NY Jews set - but it did not sell many tickets in the provinces.

    Israeli arsim types don't want to pay for movies that are brooding. They want to pay for movies that put their date in a mood to get laid that night.
    , @BB753
    Ashley Judd is dumb enough for the senate. And she's already proved her ability to prostitute herself, which is a must in politics. And she can lie too, as an actress. That's definitely senate material! Will she make it?
    , @Hibernian
    The University of Illinois is just as good as Princeton, Maybe not Harvard. In humanities and STEM subjects.
    , @Anonymous

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies’ egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.
     
    LOL that is so true!
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  58. whoever says: • Website
    @guest
    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it. Why are they leaving that on the table?

    White people make plenty off the drug trade (though not so much on the street level.) Especially marijuana. Why isn't that legal?

    There are an awful awful lot of white prostitutes. I'm sure there are white men profiting off of them, even if they aren't formally called "pimps."

    That's one of the weaker Chris Rock bits.

    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it.

    I think they are now.

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    ...don't thin and skinny mean the same?
    , @jim jones
    The most important factor for a prostitute is age, past eighteen men are not interested
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    So, men like prostitutes with an athletic build, very long blonde hair and a D-cup bosom. Is that the world ideal for female beauty?
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  59. @phil
    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as "speech". Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as “speech”. Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

    Many women I’ve talked to over the years (including my wife) feel that prostitution should be legal.

    Regarding Jews in the trade: I dated a Jewish woman who had been a madam. When I knew her, she was the owner and editor of an adult publication.

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  60. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    Yeah you would know all about Singer, wouldn't you?

    Yeah you would know all about Singer, wouldn’t you?

    What’s your problem? That Singer has some kind of affilliation that you find embarrassing? That sounds like your problem, not mine.

    You don’t like him – well here’s someone else:

    Marty Weiss

    or maybe this guy:

    Lou Perlman

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  61. @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Lena Dunham would have been a better example than Amy Schumer.

    “It’s news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.”

    Rachael’s assertion was, “Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate.” So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    Also, you should get a Commenting Handle. I would highlight it as a preferred commenter. Even if I don’t agree with everything you write, your comments are original and provocative.

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    Rachael’s assertion was, “Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate.” So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    I think she overstates it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_American_actresses

    I think Thread Bare was one of the first sex symbols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaW4QXOJ1Tc

    And even though she played a 'shikse' in SAMSON AND DELILAH, Hedy Lamarr(or Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler) was Jewish(or half-Jewish like Paul Newman).
    Saw it on the big screen I was 6 or 7. Really out the zap in me.

    I think Jennifer Connelly is also half-Jewish. We should make a distinction between ethnic-looking Jews and 'Aryan'-looking Jews, many of whom are part Jewish, like Newman. The difference isn't as stark as blacks and mulattoes, but there must be... something. Scarlett Johansson is part-Jewish and plays an 'Aryan' in GHOST WORLD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmA032qB8w

    It's half-Irish-half-Italian mobsters are accepted in the mafia but cannot be 'made'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlQCW02Tbxc

    That said, given how much the actresses had to put out to the Power in Hollywood, there was probably some trepidation about Jewish women in the business.

    There's a scene in CAFE SOCIETY where the Eisinger, newly arrived in Hollywood, calls a hooker but sends her declines when he realizes she is also Jewish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jfi64Bg-Ws
    , @Clyde
    He already has an Unz name. Priss factor or factory but sometimes likes to post as anon. Of course others post as anon too, but I can tell the Priss anon right away.
    , @dwb
    Amen.

    The infatuation of culture with an absolute zero like Dunham really amazes me.

    Fat, unattractive, loud, opinionated (with no facts, credentials, experience, or serious education to back them up), and a flat-out repulstive personality.

    She is like the ugly portrait of Dorian Gray, tossed out on the road and run over by a truck, and then sold at auction for a million quid.
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  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @syonredux

    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn’t?
     
    Young Susan Sontag was kind of cute, especially when measured against other female intellectuals:

    https://i0.wp.com/www.brainpickings.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/susansontag5.jpg?fit=980%2C676&ssl=1

    That picture might be the only one I’ve seen that makes her look good. She looks like a less attractive Eleanor Bron, (who, BTW, was one of those enigmatic beauties who defined the 1960s).

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    Eleanor Bron! From Wimpy Burger!

    A real Frobisher & Gleason raspberry-flavored ice lolly that girl was......
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  63. @Anon
    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    The difference, of course, is 'silverman', Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn't. It sounds like horror-wits.

    In many cases, it was not to hide Jewishness. I mean no one would have thought Bob Zimmerman is not Jewish because of the name change. It was just part of the mystique to project a public persona with a different name.

    Cary Grant always felt like Archibald Leach. His psychiatrists always told that after making millions of people happy, he deserved to be Cary Grant. But he never believed them until one of them put him on LSD (then legal) and told him again and this time he believed his shrink.

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    Scrolling through the dead sea of all these known anons makes bored identity really bored.

    Also,



    " Susan Sontag was beautiful. "

     

    ' Totally ',24- year-old James Toback said in agreement:

    http://classic.esquire.com/editors-notes/stop-making-sense-with-susan-sontag/
    , @syonredux
    Cary Grant once noted that every man wants to be Cary Grant, including himself.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I just saw in the FT this weekend that Apple is branching out into TV, and has signed Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon to star in a show where they play morning TV anchors. Coincidentally, Witherspoon played Aniston's kid sister in a guest role on Friends.
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  64. Bill P says:
    @S. Anonyia
    I’m not sure what their issue is, but propagating blondes in the media results in up to half of adult American white women lightening their hair. Natural adult blondes are incredibly rare outside some pockets of the Midwest yet it seems like 3/4 or more of Hollywood’s white female leads are blondes or redheads.

    All those dye jobs are extremely damaging and result in strawlike hair. They apparently fool men, too. I know guys who have no idea their girlfriend/wife is not a natural blonde.

    Only good trend I’ve noticed fewer parents are getting their daughters hair dyed in elementary/middle school. Mothers around here used to start taking their daughters to the salon around age 10 or 11.

    Natural adult blondes are incredibly rare outside some pockets of the Midwest yet it seems like 3/4 or more of Hollywood’s white female leads are blondes or redheads.

    Well, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Anywhere where northern Europeans remain a majority of the population has a fair number of blondes. These places, however, do not include NYC, LA, Florida and other heavily-Jewish locales.

    Here in NW Washington state at my youngest son’s preschool, which is mainly attended by working class white people’s kids, about 75% of the kids are tow-headed. Probably a quarter of them will still be blond as adults. We also have lots of redheads where I live — more than I’ve seen anywhere else including Europe. My wife is northern European, and even she’s surprised by all the redheads. The county is about 75% northern Euro white, mainly British Isles, Dutch and German ancestry.

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  65. AndrewR says:
    @whoever

    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it.
     
    I think they are now.
    https://i.imgur.com/mNcKAVu.png

    …don’t thin and skinny mean the same?

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    …don’t thin and skinny mean the same?
     
    Slender is better, especially with a nice Chianti and some fava beans. That chart looks like a menu.
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  66. AndrewR says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    As bad as Amy Schumer is, she is superior to Lena Dunham, whom you somehow neglected to mention, in almost every way.

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  67. @Steve Sailer
    Cary Grant always felt like Archibald Leach. His psychiatrists always told that after making millions of people happy, he deserved to be Cary Grant. But he never believed them until one of them put him on LSD (then legal) and told him again and this time he believed his shrink.

    Scrolling through the dead sea of all these known anons makes bored identity really bored.

    Also,

    ” Susan Sontag was beautiful. ”

    ‘ Totally ‘,24- year-old James Toback said in agreement:

    http://classic.esquire.com/editors-notes/stop-making-sense-with-susan-sontag/

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  68. Olorin says:
    @anony-mouse
    Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn't.

    Related to your point, she was previously dating then married to Darren Aronofsky for something like a decade.

    Aronovsky at least recently was with quintessentially shiksesque bluegrass equestrienne Jennifer Lawrence, 20 years his junior.

    Appears they both went for Aryan blondes.

    It’s interesting that Weisz, the daughter of an Austrian Jewish psychotherapist (mother), somehow misses her own projection. Onto other Jews, however…not goyim. Which perhaps counts as cultural evolution of a to-be-encouraged sort.

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  69. @Bill P
    What's this thing Jews have for blondes? I don't get it. Most (real) blondes are no more attractive than anyone else, many have a tendency to be kind of beefy and red-faced, and when past the flower of their youth they often have a severe, almost masculine bearing and countenance.

    I don't have any problem with blondes (several people in my family are really fair blondes), but they aren't all that. Every now and then you get a blonde stunner, but no more often than a black, brown or red-haired beauty.

    The only thing I can think of that may explain Jewish interest in them is the scarcity factor. There just aren't that many real blondes where Jews tend to live. But that raises the question of why, if Jewish guys like blondes so much, they don't just head off to places like Fargo to find wives. Plenty of blondes there. Nice big ones, too.

    As another commenter said, it’s not just the Jews. But it’s not just the Euro-gentiles either. Arabs, Africans, Latin Americans, … actually pretty much every ethnic group on earth seems to find blonde women alluring, even if at the ur-source–upper Midwest, northern Europe–many (most?) are as you say.

    Why? Dunno. Scarcity? Self-fulfilling cycle of media portrayal? Some universal preconscious association of fairness with good?

    Jews get a disproportionate rap for this because they have been disproportionately successful in the US and West Europe, so they have been in a position to act on this near-universal fascination by marrying/exploiting/whatevering the blondes (real or imagined) they come into contact with. But they’re not doing anything anyone else wouldn’t do given the chance.

    BTW, the upper Midwest does indeed have “nice big ones”, but I notice that the blondes who emigrate away from the homeland tend to be the more conventionally pretty ones. Not surprising since they are more likely to gain the supposedly glamorous opportunities (however tawdry, exploitative and deadend those “opportunities” actually are). But the point is that this process leads to the (mis)perception everywhere else that blonde = statuesque Aryan. Sort of like the Chinese emigrating to the West tend to be disproportionately the intelligent and ambitious ones, leading to a (mis)perception among Westerners that all Chinese must be like that. Maybe there needs to be a term for this process, sort of like “metaethnic frontier” or whatever that term is that we use to describe the phenomenon of high-asabiya borderer groups. “Migratory skew”? “Osmotic derepresentation”?

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    I like "migratory skew" a lot. I've been noticing this phenomenon for years. Why do Pakistanis/Koreans/Whoever end up owning a lot of businesses in whatever community they migrate to? Because if you're ambitious and capable enough to move your family halfway around the world in hopes of greater material success, you're hardly going to lose that part of your nature once you arrive.

    In other words, immigration - refugees aside, and certainly prior to easily accessible welfare and various other gamings of the system - self-selects for those migrants who were probably more likely to be successful anyway. (Whether they'll be successful at integrating is another question.)

    ...On further thought, this doesn't really account for people from shitty third-world countries who migrate with the intention of doing the same kind of low-skilled, low-wage work they would have done at home, except that it pays better in a first-world country, and thus they can feed their entire extended family on their remittances.

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  70. Moses says:
    @Andrew Grange
    "RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews." She said this in 2001 and as far as I know, she wasn't condemned for saying it.
    But the ADL said this about Gary Oldman making the same observation in 2014: "[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood 'is a town that’s run by Jews,' was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism."
    Maybe MS Weisz's remark was overlooked because it was in a relatively little-known publication, whereas Oldman's was in a Playboy interview, or maybe the fact that Oldman isn't Jewish and MS Weisz is Jewish is a factor, or etc.

    “[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood ‘is a town that’s run by Jews,’ was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism.”

    I’m still confused at what “anti-Semitism” means. I think it means “anti-Jew” but that’s just my guess.

    Hollywood is in fact a town run by Jews. Is it “anti-Jew” to state a fact like that? It is “anti-Jew” to notice patterns?

    Serious question.

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    It's a "hatefact" - a hateful fact, at least when made by a goyim.
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  71. @AndrewR
    ...don't thin and skinny mean the same?

    …don’t thin and skinny mean the same?

    Slender is better, especially with a nice Chianti and some fava beans. That chart looks like a menu.

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    Slender is better, and "toned" is best.

    Scrawny is worst.
    , @Steve Sailer
    “Migratory skew”

    That phrase could be helpful.
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  72. black sea says:

    OT (I think):

    Turns out America’s first African-American president is married to America’s first Jewish-American should-have-been president, were it not for the virulent anti-Semitism deployed against this Righteous Shiksa Sister.

    http://forward.com/opinion/387023/is-hillary-clinton-the-jewish-scapegoat-of-our-time/?attribution=next-article

    It’s intersectionality gone wild!

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    I suspect some of the vehement Jewish (specifically male Jewish support) that Hillary gets is because in her youth, she was the blonde liberal shiksa they all secretly wanted to marry. There's a strong nostalgia factor here. Yes, she's always been bossy and hectoring and lecturing, but that's the typical Jewish woman in spades, and Jewish men are used to it and like it. The men think there's something morally wrong with a woman who's not a nag.
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  73. black sea says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    …don’t thin and skinny mean the same?
     
    Slender is better, especially with a nice Chianti and some fava beans. That chart looks like a menu.

    Slender is better, and “toned” is best.

    Scrawny is worst.

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  74. Unzerker says:
    @Bill P
    What's this thing Jews have for blondes? I don't get it. Most (real) blondes are no more attractive than anyone else, many have a tendency to be kind of beefy and red-faced, and when past the flower of their youth they often have a severe, almost masculine bearing and countenance.

    I don't have any problem with blondes (several people in my family are really fair blondes), but they aren't all that. Every now and then you get a blonde stunner, but no more often than a black, brown or red-haired beauty.

    The only thing I can think of that may explain Jewish interest in them is the scarcity factor. There just aren't that many real blondes where Jews tend to live. But that raises the question of why, if Jewish guys like blondes so much, they don't just head off to places like Fargo to find wives. Plenty of blondes there. Nice big ones, too.

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?

    All societies prefer their women to be fair. And blondes are the fairest of them all.

    It’s really that simple.

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    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
    "Aryan" women are overrated. I just don't get this WASP shiksa thing. It's got to be class-related. The way successful Blacks dump their black wives for a blonde the second they make big bucks. For Jews, marrying, dating or raping a shiksa must be their way of saying: we've made it to the top! Trading up is the name of the game.

    (Also, keep on mind that over 80% of adult blondes dye their hair. Adult blondism is a rarity everywhere, except maybe in Finland. BTW, Finnish women in looks fall somewhere between Northern and Eastern European women, so quite good).
    , @Verymuchalive
    Actually, apart from albinos, redheads have fairer skin than blondes. Redheads very rarely dye or bleach their hair, so most keep strong, healthy hair into middle age and beyond. The vast majority of redheads use sensible sunbathing methods, live in cool climates or both. As a result, IMHO they have better complexions than blondes and brunettes.
    But they don't get the same attention that Jews, Arabs and Latins reserve for blondes.
    If you are a man, however, being red-haired is definitely a bit of a drawback. In white societies, "ginger minger" is a term of mockery. It's a wonder, Trump even became President. When was the Last US President before Trump who was red-haired ? Last British PM ? Last French President ? Can't even guess.
    Strangely, this is not the case in some non-white societies. My young friend Ross - Scottish by name, red-haired by nature - was in the Philippines with his girlfriend a few years back. The amount of attention he got from attractive, young Filipinas was immense - they were rubbing up against him, giving him their phone numbers and tugging his pubic hair ! He was told by other foreigners that the locals had a "thing" about redheads.
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  75. @Anonymous
    As a general rule with female singers of whatever race, the better they sound the worse they look.

    I'm talking about actual singing of course, not lip-syncing and autotuning.

    It probably depends on vocal range. Women who can sing the high notes, like Mariah Carey and Kate Bush, tend to be better looking than women with deep vocals (like Aretha Franklin and Adele). I don’t know much about dance music, but you’ll probably find those women with the ethereal voices you here on trance tracks are relatively attractive.

    1970s UK rock/folk vocalist Annie Haslam was relatively attractive and could certainly hit the high notes:

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    The view counts on videos with singing blonde women can be crazy. Look at the numbers for these videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s
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  76. @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She's very entertaining!

    Television stars aren't paid as much as they use to be. For example, Aniston made $1.5 mil per episode on Friends 15 years ago and the other 5 made $1 mil each, but it looks like from Forbes' latest that that million dollar per episode level is reached only by Vergara and the girl on "Big Bang Theory."

    In the late 1990s, NBC offered Seinfeld $5 mil per episode for one more year, which he turned down. I can't imagine anyone is close to that level now. There are a lot more shows, and the networks have innovated a lot of types of shows that aren't as dependent upon star actors.

    But it's a good era to be an actor of a certain age because you'll likely be working regularly because there are so many shows now.

    Good points.

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  77. Olorin says:
    @Anon
    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies’ egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    That, or L. Ron invented a religion that’s an asbestos meme amidst the conflagration of Hollywood degeneracy.

    And why shouldn’t these men feel like they’re “gods or masters of the universe”? You prefer trannies and numales?

    (Actually L. Ron was just a 1A sea-story bullshitter. Or so was the word as I heard it out east from the earlier generation of sf writers who were Navy men and/or shipbuilders.)

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  78. jim jones says:
    @whoever

    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it.
     
    I think they are now.
    https://i.imgur.com/mNcKAVu.png

    The most important factor for a prostitute is age, past eighteen men are not interested

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    The most important factor for a prostitute is age, past eighteen men are not interested.
     
    Hah! Wrong. LMAO
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  79. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    Pedophilia, eh? Here’s a party at Roland Emmerich’s house (a few years old). It apparently had to do with ‘pride’.

    https://www.queerty.com/los-angeles-a-gays-gather-at-roland-emmerich-bryan-singers-post-pride-party-20090615

    https://twitter.com/FioSargenti/status/456985527120453632/photo/1

    See also: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=29497539

    Here is Bryan Singer with some friends.
    http://i.imgur.com/caLJFv5.jpg
    Oh look, it’s Gandalf

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    I'm sure all those boys are of age. It's not like Singer is known for anything unsavory.
    , @BB753
    Pretty damning! How much longer will Bryan Singer get away with it? Jailbait eventually lands you in jail.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Those pictures are absolutely creepy and disgusting.

    Singer looks like a total deviant.
    , @Olorin
    My brain can't stop wondering why that pool water is brownish red.
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  80. @jim jones
    The most important factor for a prostitute is age, past eighteen men are not interested

    The most important factor for a prostitute is age, past eighteen men are not interested.

    Hah! Wrong. LMAO

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  81. Karl says:
    @njguy73

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.
     
    The first makes Black people rich, the second makes White people rich. Just like Chris Rock put it, only White people can profit from pain. If most pimps were White, there'd be a whorehouse in every strip mall between the Subway and the nail salon. If Hugh Hefner and Bob Guccione had been Jheri-curled Negroes, having a porno mag would get you 60 years in jail.

    No, I'm not Tiny Duck posting under another name. I'm just a person who knows the truth when he sees it.

    19 njguy73 > If most pimps were White, they wouldn’t bitch when the strip mall said, “yeah ok, but you have to pay rent”

    fixed it for you!

    don’t believe me? Go visit Curacao.

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  82. Karl says:
    @Corn
    Sex for pay is legal in porn precisely because it’s on film.

    Fun historical trivia: During the late ‘70s and early ‘80s XXX movie production in the USA shifted from chilly San Francisco and gritty NYC to sunny Southern California. The LAPD and LA County Sheriff’s Department often would raid porn movie sets and arrest directors, crew members, possibly cast for “pandering”. That’s a charge that means something akin to pimping IIRC. Eventually some defendants mounted a free speech defense and it worked. In 1988 the California Supreme Court ruled that arresting pornographers on vice and morals charges was “an end run around the First Anendment”.

    Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it.

    39 Corn > Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it

    according to what i’ve read, that’s only true in one court district. There was ONE case, and the prosecutor never appealed it. Hence, a court precedent in that one jurisdiction

    Also: the male actors aren’t paying the actress for sex. So it gets into “elements of the offense”

    Consider: is it illegal if I offer to pay iSteve’s wife to have sex with him tomorrow night?

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    I find that abstract hypothetical question excessively personal.
    , @Forbes
    The detail of "wife" probably answers the question of legality, ffs.
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  83. BB753 says:
    @Unzerker

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?
     
    All societies prefer their women to be fair. And blondes are the fairest of them all.

    It's really that simple.

    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
    “Aryan” women are overrated. I just don’t get this WASP shiksa thing. It’s got to be class-related. The way successful Blacks dump their black wives for a blonde the second they make big bucks. For Jews, marrying, dating or raping a shiksa must be their way of saying: we’ve made it to the top! Trading up is the name of the game.

    (Also, keep on mind that over 80% of adult blondes dye their hair. Adult blondism is a rarity everywhere, except maybe in Finland. BTW, Finnish women in looks fall somewhere between Northern and Eastern European women, so quite good).

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    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    , @LondonBob
    Swedish children are alarmingly blonde but go darker as they age, my brother followed that pattern I got the Welsh genes so dark from the beginning.
    , @anonguy

    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
     
    Slavs are more physically robust than western europeans. I don't think it is huge, but it is noticeable IMO, and this includes those here in the US for multiple generations.

    Physical vitality usually translates into sexual attractiveness, so Q.E.D.

    As for the more feminine, who knows. Maybe if you are more attracted to a women because of her physical attractiveness, she just seems more feminine to you?
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  84. Karl says:
    @Anon
    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    56 Anon > is really smart. So is Natalie Portman

    the Hebrew movie she made in Israel got a lot of adoring reviews amongst the North TelAviv liberal set – and the NY Jews set – but it did not sell many tickets in the provinces.

    Israeli arsim types don’t want to pay for movies that are brooding. They want to pay for movies that put their date in a mood to get laid that night.

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  85. @Karl
    39 Corn > Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it


    according to what i've read, that's only true in one court district. There was ONE case, and the prosecutor never appealed it. Hence, a court precedent in that one jurisdiction

    Also: the male actors aren't paying the actress for sex. So it gets into "elements of the offense"

    Consider: is it illegal if I offer to pay iSteve's wife to have sex with him tomorrow night?

    I find that abstract hypothetical question excessively personal.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Was Karl excessively personal ?

    Of course he was.

    Abstract ?

    Not so much;


    ABSTRACT (adj.):

    1.) thought of apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or actual instances: an abstract idea.

    2.) expressing a quality or characteristic apart from any specific object or instance, as justice,poverty, and speed.

    3.) theoretical; not applied or practical:abstract science.

    4.) difficult to understand; abstruse: abstract speculations.


    ***************************************************************************************************************

    bored identity is here to help by offering abstract, plausible, and tasteful solution to Karl's Dilemma:


    Any time Sailer some abstract blogger uses panhandled financial resources to gloriously resurrect some of his kitchen appliances, or garage door,or something, he gets one step closer from making Mrs. Sailer his significant one to bliss out to the freshly shingled roof.

    And being in Bliss Out Mode could be a powerful aphrodisiac.


    (bored identity hopes that his enthusiastic curb will not be subject of the dreaded whim.)
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  86. @BB753
    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
    "Aryan" women are overrated. I just don't get this WASP shiksa thing. It's got to be class-related. The way successful Blacks dump their black wives for a blonde the second they make big bucks. For Jews, marrying, dating or raping a shiksa must be their way of saying: we've made it to the top! Trading up is the name of the game.

    (Also, keep on mind that over 80% of adult blondes dye their hair. Adult blondism is a rarity everywhere, except maybe in Finland. BTW, Finnish women in looks fall somewhere between Northern and Eastern European women, so quite good).

    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don’t, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we’d think of as light brunette for women.

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    I think they do.
    , @BB753
    Women tend to display fairer hair. It's a neotenous trait that's supposed to turn men on. Same with skin color.
    While men have lighter eye color than women on average in Caucasian populations.
    , @S. Anonyia
    No.

    Haven't you noticed there are lots of men with that mid-brown mousy-colored hair but virtually no women? It's because women who don't have really dark hair or some other vibrant color like auburn virtually always dye it. As I mentioned earlier, many begin dying their hair in childhood once it starts fading brown.

    See many adult blonde women among the Amish?
    , @Bill P
    Brad Pitt's natural hair color is about average for a northern European. French call it blond but Nordics would just call it brown.
    , @syonredux

    Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we’d think of as light brunette for women.
     
    Depends on the "we." Even medium brown counts as blond in much of the world. E.g., note how Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name was called "Blondie" in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Put Eastwood on a set in Spain with a mostly Italian crew, and he'll start to look blond in comparison to all the other people with dark brown/black hair....

    There was a famous test involving British and French anthropologists many decades ago. They were asked to rate various people on a hair color scale, and the French anthropologists showed a definite tendency to ascribe blondness to people that the Brits rated light brown....
    , @TWS
    Yes a true blond is rare as an adult. My brother lasted until he went gray then bald as did my mother and wife but my son was just as blond as my brother as a kid but he went a darker blond until he was in Iraq then he was blond until his second tour when he went gray then bald.

    I have lots of blonds on my mom's side but few men stay that way.
    , @F
    They do, as well as in skin color, both being lighter
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  87. Weisz recently denounced Brexit, saying it felt “like a death.” Take a guess why.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/10/rachel-weisz-my-parents-were-refugees-brexit-feels-like-a-death

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  88. Flip says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    I think they do.

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  89. Flip says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    From George Carlin
    “I don’t understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn’t selling fucking legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that’s perfectly legal to give away? I can’t follow the logic on that one at all! Of all the things you can do, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world. In the army they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm! Maybe I’m not supposed to understand it…”

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  90. LondonBob says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Monroe was not a dummy. That was a part she played. Unfortunately, she played it too well, and people thought that was all there was to her.

    Monroe was an idiot, controlled by Mickey Cohen and his mobster pals, according LAPD detective Gary Wean, who had to tail Cohen.

    n 1960, the USA’s presidential election was between Nixon (Eisenhower’s vice president) and John Kennedy. Kennedy was a legendary philanderer, and Cohen and friends tried exploiting JFK’s proclivities. According to legend, JFK met Marilyn Monroe through a connection with Frank Sinatra. Right there was a possible organized crime connection, but Gary wrote that another member of the “rat pack,” Joey Bishop (who knew Cohen well – Gary wrote that Bishop even worked for Cohen), came up with the idea of introducing Monroe to JFK, and Gary looked in on Peter Lawford’s (JFK’s in-law) beach-house party when JFK and Monroe were introduced, in 1960, during the Democratic national convention.

    As with Stompanato and Turner, Cohen underling Georgie Piscitelli became Monroe’s lover. Cohen got a tape of them in bed together and played it for Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamster boss who later received cement shoes from the Mafia and who was then feeling the heat from Attorney General Bobby Kennedy. They promised Hoffa a tape of JFK and Monroe in bed together (so that Hoffa could blackmail JFK into halting Bobby Kennedy’s efforts), but could never deliver. Monroe was being used as the world’s highest-class hooker. In 2013 and 2014, new allegations of Monroe/JFK sex tapes arose.

    Cohen and friends wanted to know what Kennedy’s intentions were toward Israel. Monroe was supposed to elicit it during pillow talk. Monroe was controlled by mobsters and was kept on all manner of narcotic. When she became increasingly uncontrollable and potentially dangerous if she publicly talked about what was happening, she was murdered. Gary had Cohen under surveillance, and caught him and Begin having a conversation in Yiddish in a diner. They were talking about Kennedy, Israel, and how much money Kennedy was wasting on the Peace Corps and other programs.

    Gary’s testimony regarding JFK, John Tower, Marilyn Monroe, Menachem Begin, Jack Ruby, and Mick Cohen is just part of his amazing tale, which he published at great risk with his book .There’s a Fish in the Courthouse’.. By the year 2000, the only JFK assassination book that I was aware of that even mentioned Gary was Final Judgment, by Michael Collins Piper, who heavily relied on Gary’s testimony. Gary thought that Jewish gangsters were involved in interposing Hunt’s grand scheme. That does not mean that Allen Dulles (the CIA chief whom Kennedy fired over the Bay of Pigs, and who later served on the Warren Commission), J. Edgar Hoover, George Bush, and others were not also involved in interposing Hunt’s scheme and playing Hunt for a chump.

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    There are excerpts from her letters where she discusses acting and politics. She was by no means a complete Twit, although you will probably dismiss them as studio forgeries.
    Unfortunately, she was constantly looking for that Daddy Figure, and it made her a sitting duck for a lot of bad hombres.
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  91. LondonBob says:
    @BB753
    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
    "Aryan" women are overrated. I just don't get this WASP shiksa thing. It's got to be class-related. The way successful Blacks dump their black wives for a blonde the second they make big bucks. For Jews, marrying, dating or raping a shiksa must be their way of saying: we've made it to the top! Trading up is the name of the game.

    (Also, keep on mind that over 80% of adult blondes dye their hair. Adult blondism is a rarity everywhere, except maybe in Finland. BTW, Finnish women in looks fall somewhere between Northern and Eastern European women, so quite good).

    Swedish children are alarmingly blonde but go darker as they age, my brother followed that pattern I got the Welsh genes so dark from the beginning.

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  92. LondonBob says:
    @Hail

    RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews.
     
    According to the ADL's Global Anti-Semitism Index Q9 ("Jews have too much control over the global media"), Rachel Weisz may be counted as person with anti-Semite tendencies. I believe 'media' conceptually encompasses 'Hollywood' in this case.

    The ADL finds that this particular anti-Semitic canard rises among among Gen. X and Y.

    British saying 'Jews have too much control over global media', by age group
    Born 1980 to 1996: 19%
    Born 1965 to 1979: 16%
    Born before 1965: 9%

    Rachel Weisz, British Jew, was born in 1970 (Generation X). Weisz is in the small minority among British Gen. X'ers, 84% of whom heroically believe that Jews do not "run" (as Weisz puts it) the media.

    More woke Muslims in the latter cohorts.

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  93. @Desiderius

    the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews
     
    Notice how quickly Weisz corrects that misapprehension.

    There may be no concept so misapplied as self-loathing.

    You are correct – “self-loathing” whites or “self-loathing” Jews. Quite the opposite – “self-congratulating” whites or Jews. They pat themselves on the back for their fashionably enlightened opinions and beliefs. It’s a substitute for personal integrity.

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  94. @DCThrowback
    you mean kevin spacey (((fowler))) right

    I checked Wikipedia and nothing about him being Jewish. Far from it.

    From Wikipedia:

    Randy Fowler (from whom Spacey is estranged)[13] has stated that their father, whom he described as a racist “Nazi supporter”, was sexually and physically abusive, and that Spacey had shut down emotionally and become “very sly and smart” to avoid whippings.

    I wonder if the abuse turned Kevin Spacey gay.

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  95. Tiny Duck says:

    The world will be a better place when blonde hair and many colored eyes are eliminated. We need more unity and diversity not divisiveness

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    Ohs Tinys.....I be likin yo “brown eye”.


    Letnurd “teh Intrudzer” Pizzztz
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  96. @syonredux

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?
     
    Numbers matter. The pre-1848 Jewish population (largely Sephardic) in Anglo-America/the USA was very well integrated. Things started to shift with the German-Jewish Influx after 1848, but the real turning point was the massive inundation of Ostjuden in the late 19th-early 20th century.

    I think that the German Jews tended to be Republican. The real troublemakers were the Eastern European Jews who shifted from Orthodox Judaism to some form of radicalism in one generation.

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  97. @syonredux

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She’s very entertaining!
     
    Interestingly, she was told to darken her hair during her early days in Hollywood. It seems that the casting directors thought that she didn't look sufficiently Hispanic with fair hair....

    Sofia Vergara is from Colombia. Our host Steve S. has observed on the Mexican tv and movie industries fixation on blondes. I don’t know about South America.

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    fixation on blonde
     
    That's an exaggeration. Most Latin American stars are (light-skinned) brunettes. Think Sean Penn's pal Kate del Castillo. Of course, there are just very few blondes in the region to begin with. But I have noticed quite a few of the blonde actresses get typecast as villains.
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  98. BB753 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    Women tend to display fairer hair. It’s a neotenous trait that’s supposed to turn men on. Same with skin color.
    While men have lighter eye color than women on average in Caucasian populations.

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  99. @whoever

    But if prostitution were legal, white people would be making plenty of money off it.
     
    I think they are now.
    https://i.imgur.com/mNcKAVu.png

    So, men like prostitutes with an athletic build, very long blonde hair and a D-cup bosom. Is that the world ideal for female beauty?

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    The market reflecting supply and demand--men will pay--and pay up--for that which is rare. It is more likely that the four characteristics are separate variables. Meaning, statistically speaking, they are outliers when combined, and do not represent the mean (where the highest frequency occurs) of perceived ideal female beauty.

    PS: It might be better said that men that like prostitutes, like women that have athletic bodies, long blonde hair and large bosoms. Men that like prostitutes would not be representative of all men's likes.

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  100. @Buzz Mohawk

    …don’t thin and skinny mean the same?
     
    Slender is better, especially with a nice Chianti and some fava beans. That chart looks like a menu.

    “Migratory skew”

    That phrase could be helpful.

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    Mmm... A nice, hot bowl of migratory skew sounds delicious.

    I see it on the menu now.

    Thank you for pointing it out to me.
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  101. BB753 says:
    @Anon
    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    Ashley Judd is dumb enough for the senate. And she’s already proved her ability to prostitute herself, which is a must in politics. And she can lie too, as an actress. That’s definitely senate material! Will she make it?

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  102. @Moses

    “[Oldman's] withering remark that Hollywood ‘is a town that’s run by Jews,’ was nothing less than stomach-churning anti-Semitism.”
     
    I'm still confused at what "anti-Semitism" means. I think it means "anti-Jew" but that's just my guess.

    Hollywood is in fact a town run by Jews. Is it "anti-Jew" to state a fact like that? It is "anti-Jew" to notice patterns?

    Serious question.

    It’s a “hatefact” – a hateful fact, at least when made by a goyim.

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  103. whorefinder says: • Website

    Sarah Silverman said something similar, I believe along the lines of: “The Jews who run Hollywood think acting is not a career for good Jewish girls, it’s for those trashy Shiksas.”

    Might be true, but that might be rationalization. It might also be that the Jewish men in Hollywood find shiksas way more attractive and think that Jewish girls don’t have the looks to draw, and want to be polite to Jewish girls about it.

    Winona Ryder changed her name for the same reason most performers change their name: they want a name that sells, not one that necessarily excludes or makes them typecast as “ethnic.” Bob Hope changed his name to have broader appeal, and he wasn’t Jewish.

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    Wikipedia says:


     
    Hope was born in Eltham, Kent[1] (now part of the London Borough of Greenwich), the fifth of seven sons. His English father, William Henry Hope, was a stonemason from Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, and his Welsh mother, Avis (nee Towns), was a light opera singer from Barry, Vale of Glamorgan,[3] who later worked as a cleaner. William and Avis married in April 1891 and lived at 12 Greenwood Street in Barry before moving to Whitehall, Bristol, and then to St George, Bristol. In 1908, the family emigrated to the United States, sailing aboard the SS Philadelphia. They passed through Ellis Island, N.Y., on March 30, 1908, before moving on to Cleveland, Ohio.[4]

     

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  104. @Jonathan Mason
    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a 'race', when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain's second national anthem, William Blake's Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    Speculating….

    British Jews and American Jews both assimilated, but in different contexts. British Jews assimilated into a demographically overwhelming, self-confident “founding stock”. So, in school, little Benjamin lined up with little Nigel, little Edmund, little Winston, etc.

    American Jews assimilated into a context where the founding stock was, locally, in demographic retreat. There weren’t a lot of “founding stock Americans” around in the big immigrant cities. So little Benjamin lined up with little Tony the Italian kid, little PJ the Irish kid, little Stan the Polish kid, etc. Ellis Island America was a composite of more-or-less harmonious tribes, who reciprocally influenced each other against the background of inherited Anglo-American culture.

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  105. midtown says:

    Ah, Rachel Weisz …. perhaps my favorite actress. Intelligent and beautiful.

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    Always had a thing for her.
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  106. @whorefinder
    Sarah Silverman said something similar, I believe along the lines of: "The Jews who run Hollywood think acting is not a career for good Jewish girls, it's for those trashy Shiksas."

    Might be true, but that might be rationalization. It might also be that the Jewish men in Hollywood find shiksas way more attractive and think that Jewish girls don't have the looks to draw, and want to be polite to Jewish girls about it.

    Winona Ryder changed her name for the same reason most performers change their name: they want a name that sells, not one that necessarily excludes or makes them typecast as "ethnic." Bob Hope changed his name to have broader appeal, and he wasn't Jewish.

    Wikipedia says:


    Hope was born in Eltham, Kent[1] (now part of the London Borough of Greenwich), the fifth of seven sons. His English father, William Henry Hope, was a stonemason from Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, and his Welsh mother, Avis (nee Towns), was a light opera singer from Barry, Vale of Glamorgan,[3] who later worked as a cleaner. William and Avis married in April 1891 and lived at 12 Greenwood Street in Barry before moving to Whitehall, Bristol, and then to St George, Bristol. In 1908, the family emigrated to the United States, sailing aboard the SS Philadelphia. They passed through Ellis Island, N.Y., on March 30, 1908, before moving on to Cleveland, Ohio.[4]

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    Hope's birth name was Leslie Townes Hope. Changed it to Bob to have broader appeal.

    Another goyim example: Cary Grant, born Archie Leach. Humorously, Grant made deliberate reference to his real name in His Girl Friday. Grant was a very talented comedian trapped in a romantic lead's body:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBX9IJPvvpo
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  107. theMann says:
    @anony-mouse
    Like your friend who taught department store marketing this may be an excuse for her own lack of success. Some manage. Some do very well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

    Anyhow Weisz was married to a non-Jewish blond herself (Daneil Craig). Projection? Until she wasn't.

    “Blondeness is nature’s clearest warning signal of a naturally cold disposition” – Somerset Maugham.

    Not sure how he personally would have known that, but it is an accurate observation.

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    The flip side of this is that brunette hair signals a woman's got a heck of a temper.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    So Maugham is to blame for no one being able to spell "blondness" these days?
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  108. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Wikipedia says:


     
    Hope was born in Eltham, Kent[1] (now part of the London Borough of Greenwich), the fifth of seven sons. His English father, William Henry Hope, was a stonemason from Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, and his Welsh mother, Avis (nee Towns), was a light opera singer from Barry, Vale of Glamorgan,[3] who later worked as a cleaner. William and Avis married in April 1891 and lived at 12 Greenwood Street in Barry before moving to Whitehall, Bristol, and then to St George, Bristol. In 1908, the family emigrated to the United States, sailing aboard the SS Philadelphia. They passed through Ellis Island, N.Y., on March 30, 1908, before moving on to Cleveland, Ohio.[4]

     

    Hope’s birth name was Leslie Townes Hope. Changed it to Bob to have broader appeal.

    Another goyim example: Cary Grant, born Archie Leach. Humorously, Grant made deliberate reference to his real name in His Girl Friday. Grant was a very talented comedian trapped in a romantic lead’s body:

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    Archie Leach was the character name of John Cleese in "A Fish Named Wanda." Cleese, who didn't change his name--his father did, it was originally Cheese--was born in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, the birthplace of Bob Hope's father, William Henry Hope.

    In a few degrees we'll get to Kevin Bacon...
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  109. @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    watching the news last night i observed outloud (as others apparently did) that scoldings about sexual harrassment disseminated by ugly people of indeterminate gender are hilarious.

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    Envy. Of looks. Of attention. Of fantasy.
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  110. @Unzerker

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?
     
    All societies prefer their women to be fair. And blondes are the fairest of them all.

    It's really that simple.

    Actually, apart from albinos, redheads have fairer skin than blondes. Redheads very rarely dye or bleach their hair, so most keep strong, healthy hair into middle age and beyond. The vast majority of redheads use sensible sunbathing methods, live in cool climates or both. As a result, IMHO they have better complexions than blondes and brunettes.
    But they don’t get the same attention that Jews, Arabs and Latins reserve for blondes.
    If you are a man, however, being red-haired is definitely a bit of a drawback. In white societies, “ginger minger” is a term of mockery. It’s a wonder, Trump even became President. When was the Last US President before Trump who was red-haired ? Last British PM ? Last French President ? Can’t even guess.
    Strangely, this is not the case in some non-white societies. My young friend Ross – Scottish by name, red-haired by nature – was in the Philippines with his girlfriend a few years back. The amount of attention he got from attractive, young Filipinas was immense – they were rubbing up against him, giving him their phone numbers and tugging his pubic hair ! He was told by other foreigners that the locals had a “thing” about redheads.

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    Gingers get a lot of teasing. And it's dangerous for them to go out in the sun for more than 10 minutes unless they cover all exposed areas with sunscreen because they have no tanning ability, only burning ability. On females, the "white as milk" complexion can be attractive though not in accordance with modern tastes. On men and less attractive (e.g. fat) females, it makes you resemble a dead fish.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    (Waves)

    I'm a redhead, though with silver threads among the copper, artfully concealed with a once-a-month dyejob. Heavy wavy hair and pale skin that is prone to burning.

    Someone told me that Latinos like redhair because they think that redhaired woman are passionate. So, there is the spectacle of a brown-skinned women with a burgundy red hair. Perhaps the same is true for Philippinos.

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  111. @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    In several Asian countries what takes place between one man and one woman is a private affair, as long as no third party is involved. Makes sense to me.

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  112. njguy73 says:
    @Anon
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…


    Basinger is a babe type. Lange is ancient history. She was in KING KONG and sort of faded.

    As for the others, they are blonde or semi-blonde but not the blonde goddess/bimbo type. Streep was never sexy. Blanchett isn't a looker at all. Witherspoon is cute but no hottie, and she rode on her comedic talent. Foster is just barely blonde, and her career has been an odd one difficult to pigeonhole.

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    Again, you're missing the point. By 'blonde', we don't mean someone with blonde hair. I mean Streisand could pass as blonde. Most of the actresses you mentioned are NOT the 'aryan' type. Watts is too girlish to be a real sex symbol. Close looks like Mrs. Doubtfire. Not ugly but no beauty. Like Streep, she coasted on talent than looks. Linney same thing. Next-door-girl-woman type.

    Now, Shue and Stone are Wasp Blonde types, but Shue faded and Stone sunk like a stone after CASINO. Pfeiffer had a blonde babe role in SCARFACE but most of her roles went against type.
    Dern is likable but no looker. She looks like Olive Oyl and Sweat Pea. Uma actually looks exotic. She could almost pass for non-white. Kate Hudson is half-Jewish. Isn't her mother Goldie Hawn?

    This becomes further complicated by the fact that some non-blondes had the 'Aryan' look. Greta Garbo is a famous case.

    By Aryan-Wasp blonde type, we mean someone like Veronica Lake. Or Grace Kelly(never liked her), the kind of women Hitchcock slobbered after. And Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich.

    That archetype was more common in Classic Hollywood, but even back then, the great majority of the big famous actresses were not blonde. Rosalind Russell, Barbra Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Kathrine Hepburn, Donna Reed, Rita Hayworth(though her hair was dyed blonde in LADY FROM SHANGHAI), Audrey Hepburn, Joan Fontaine, Bette Davis, Jean Simmons, and etc.

    This stuff about how Hollywood used to be dominated by big tall Wasp types and that Dustin Hoffman was something NEW and DARING in THE GRADUATE is total nonsense.

    For one thing, many of those famous wasp actors were not tall.
    And one of the biggest stars was young Mickey Rooney, and everyone knew he wasn't tall. Paul Muni had lots of big roles. James Cagney was this runty Irishman and one of the biggest stars. Bogart wasn't tall and not wasp-looking(though a wasp), and he was one of the biggest stars. Edward G. Robinson, Jewish, was a big name. And Perkins the weirdo did youth roles before Hoffman came along. James Dean in REBEL looked downright demented. And his best pal was Sal Mineo.

    The Aryan Blonde Wasp domination is one of those tropes that never go away. It's like Haven Monahan.

    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair.

    Moving the goalposts much? You said “superstar,” not, “someone I’d like to do.” Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    My point, and one that Sailer himself brought up when reviewing Chicago back in 2002, when Weinstein was at his Oscar-snagging peak, is this:

    Blonde woman don’t need to have classic features to be considered as attractive as non-blondes. Zellweger and Zeta-Jones were marketed as equally hot.

    I’ll put it in manosphere terms: to be considered Hollywood-worthy:
    - blondes need to be HB6
    - brunettes need to be HB8
    - redheads need to have jugs like Christina Hendricks, or acting chops like Julianne Moore

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    Moving the goalposts much? You said “superstar,” not, “someone I’d like to do.” Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    Streep was never a superstar. A big name to be sure, but she insisted on being an ACTOR, an ARTIST, a SERIOUS person.

    A star has a big personality that you can always recognize. And this factor is bigger than talent. Wayne was always Wayne. He was a star. Eastwood is a star. Orson Welles made that distinction. A star is bigger than the role he plays. Welles considered James Dean a star even though he made only 3 movies. There was that Dean mystique.

    Streep is a zilch as persona. She always tried to disappear into her roles, esp with accents that were annoying as hell in the 80s. I hoped lions would devour her in OUT OF AFRICA.

    Most of the names you mentioned were never superstars. I mean if you say Helen Hunt, people will say, 'Oh yeah, she was good in that movie', but there is no Hunt mystique.

    And Hollywood didn't try to turn them into mega-stars, largely because the old studio system has been dead for a long time. In the past, a studio owned an actor or actress and created and built up her persona. It's like what Woltz says of his 'protege' in THE GODFATHER. Today, Hollywood system is looser and more fragmented, and actors have to scramble in everyone-for-himself mode. They are more like free agents. They don't always wind behind their back. Hollywood is not creating people like Norma Desmond anymore, people who were invented but came to believe in their own myths.

    We've still had stars but most of them are shadows of past stars who were really BIG.
    , @Jack D
    I've never understood Zellweger's appeal. I'm not even sure she is a 6 by Hollywood standards. She has a pig face and chipmunk cheeks even when she is not overweight.
    , @Amasius
    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.
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  113. njguy73 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    Sofia Vergara has been the highest paid TV actress for a number of years. She's very entertaining!

    Television stars aren't paid as much as they use to be. For example, Aniston made $1.5 mil per episode on Friends 15 years ago and the other 5 made $1 mil each, but it looks like from Forbes' latest that that million dollar per episode level is reached only by Vergara and the girl on "Big Bang Theory."

    In the late 1990s, NBC offered Seinfeld $5 mil per episode for one more year, which he turned down. I can't imagine anyone is close to that level now. There are a lot more shows, and the networks have innovated a lot of types of shows that aren't as dependent upon star actors.

    But it's a good era to be an actor of a certain age because you'll likely be working regularly because there are so many shows now.

    Had Jennifer Lawrence played Bill Engvall’s daughter for ten seasons, she’d find it hard to avoid typecasting, too.

    Sofia Vergara and Kaley Cuoco will be in the same situation soon.

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  114. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    The world will be a better place when blonde hair and many colored eyes are eliminated. We need more unity and diversity not divisiveness

    Ohs Tinys…..I be likin yo “brown eye”.

    Letnurd “teh Intrudzer” Pizzztz

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  115. Hibernian says:
    @Anon
    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    The University of Illinois is just as good as Princeton, Maybe not Harvard. In humanities and STEM subjects.

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    I think you are overstating it a bit. Champagne-Urban is is ranked high in engineering but in most other areas, even STEM areas, Princeton is stronger. Historically the Ivies sucked and continue to suck in engineering. Most Ivies have their roots as colonial divinity schools on the British model while the strong engineering schools were form mainly as land grant universities (BTW, it's little known that MIT is a land grant university) in the post Civil War period when America was becoming an industrial society and were designed on the German model. Engineering is too trade-schoolish to be appealing to Ivy intellectuals.
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  116. I’ve always wondered why rich Gentiles didn’t do more when it comes to movie production. If one has money barriers no longer exist.

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    In a nutshell, rich WASP women never had to doing anything like doll up and go on a stage to get high-quality men chasing after them. Their money and family connections always did the work for them.

    Traditional WASPs consider acting to be low-class and low-caste. In fact, the farther back you go, the more it was associated with prostitution for women. Part of the problem is that the type of men you meet as an actress are not high-quality males. Hollywood abounds in bounders. Actresses cannot avoid them because they're so common, and many of them are very slick liars and sociopaths. High-caste WASP male fortune builders have always warned their daughters away from acting because they don't want their daughters being taken advantage of or being mistreated by these men.

    Decent men who bring home the bacon and stay faithful to their wives and kids do not chase after actresses or circulate in Hollywood. That way lies personal and marital instability, along with substance addiction, and decent men want no part of it.

    , @niteranger
    Sorry you are wrong on your theory. Even if you made the movie the Jews still control the distribution of the product. In fact, they control all aspects of who get's to see it, review it and pay for it in their theaters. It's the same with the music industry although you can sell your stuff independently more than you use to.
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  117. L Woods says:
    @midtown
    Ah, Rachel Weisz .... perhaps my favorite actress. Intelligent and beautiful.

    Always had a thing for her.

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  118. BB753 says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I’m aware of.

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    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I’m aware of.
     
    America is famously inclined to discount the immutable realities of human nature. Hence our world-wide reputation for hypocrisy.
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  119. @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    No.

    Haven’t you noticed there are lots of men with that mid-brown mousy-colored hair but virtually no women? It’s because women who don’t have really dark hair or some other vibrant color like auburn virtually always dye it. As I mentioned earlier, many begin dying their hair in childhood once it starts fading brown.

    See many adult blonde women among the Amish?

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  120. Re blondness : Some examples from Norway ( hint : it`s all in the eyebrows..)

    https://imgur.com/zwqbDTO

    https://imgur.com/zTZeXqq

    https://imgur.com/pDIGwwF

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    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    Think of Legolas in Lord of the Rings or Daernys in Game of Thrones.
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  121. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I don’t know if it’s self-loathing that Jewish men who control Hollywood do not put more Jewish women on screen. It’s probably a money decision. They have to sell what people want. Most people don’t have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone, or Rachel Weisz vs. Rachel MacAdams, or Amy Schumer vs. Amy Adams. Studio execs just want to make money. They know that as talented as she is, a Barbara Streisand could never engender the kind of fandom as a Marilyn Monroe, or a Farrah Fawcett, or a Britney Spears. Money talks, and we all know how much Jews love money.

    There’s been a lot of complaints about racism in Hollywood over lack of black actors. I think that is again a money decision. Other than themselves, there’s no one Jews love more than blacks. But other than Will Smith, who’s passed his prime, most black actors just aren’t very bankable. Queen Latifah is a great singer and funny as heck, I’ve always wanted her to host the Oscars but they probably won’t let her because of ratings.

    The only group that Jews actively hate in Hollywood are Asians. They always make sure to go out of their way to stereotype Asians. In an article in the NYT last year many Asian actors claimed that they can’t get roles without “doing the accent”. Hollywood also likes to promote ugly Asian actors, like Sandra Oh, George Takei or Rex Lee in Entourage. Half Asian actors have to change their last names to even get auditions. The careers of Russell Wong and Maggie Q likely would’ve been more successful had they changed their last names.

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    Most people don’t have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone, or Rachel Weisz vs. Rachel MacAdams, or Amy Schumer vs. Amy Adams.
     
    Dunno. I'd take Rachel Weisz over Rachel McAdams....
    , @anonymous
    "Most people don’t have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone"

    Most people don't have a hard time choosing between Debra Winger and, say, Glenn Close, or between Gal Gadot and Kathy Griffin. It's silly to doll out choices like that. I don't think Sharon Stone was famous for looking like the girl next door.
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  122. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.

    Same goes for Jewish men. Woody Allen is a prime example. Hollywood would never cast him as a male star and sex symbol, so he cast himself as one in his movies, albeit a neurotic one, and gets gorgeous shiksas like Diane Keaton to fall all over him. Albert Brooks doesn’t have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

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    Is it possible the main reason Woody Allen went into acting was to increase his chances of having affairs with shiksas?

    Well, that and hogging the screen with a lot of himself and his talk. That's a Jewish ego thing.
    , @Anon
    Albert Brooks doesn’t have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

    Brooks was just an actor in BROADCAST.

    But in his self-directed movies, he's quite a ladies' man, albeit a screwy one.

    Take MODERN ROMANCE, one of the funniest shi* I ever did see.

    And there is a neocon-ish Podhoretzism in his movies, also shared by David Mamet, esp in HOMICIDE where Jewish manhood his impugned by blacks.

    In REAL LIFE, there's a hilarious scene where Brooks tells the black sociologist that blacks are stronger and the superior race. It is a laugh riot.
    In MODERN ROMANCE, Brooks' character is taken aback by some Negro talking about his woman. I saw it with my sister. She picked it up immediately.
    In DEFENDING YOUR LIFE, the Negro guy has a BIG brain. My sis hated that movie as 'racist'.

    Allen's movies sees Wasp men as the main rival. Brooks has the Big White Guy stereotype too, esp in LOST IN AMERICA. But he seems to feel the threat from all around. From blacks too.

    This is one of the funniest scene in MODERN ROMANCE.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA33s_HRxmI

    It's noteworthy that it's Brooks who dumps all the women in this movie... including the lovely Kathryn Harrold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIHX12yK5v4&t=48s
    , @Moses
    You all do realize that "shiksa" means "whore," don't you?
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  123. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Anon
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…


    Basinger is a babe type. Lange is ancient history. She was in KING KONG and sort of faded.

    As for the others, they are blonde or semi-blonde but not the blonde goddess/bimbo type. Streep was never sexy. Blanchett isn't a looker at all. Witherspoon is cute but no hottie, and she rode on her comedic talent. Foster is just barely blonde, and her career has been an odd one difficult to pigeonhole.

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    Again, you're missing the point. By 'blonde', we don't mean someone with blonde hair. I mean Streisand could pass as blonde. Most of the actresses you mentioned are NOT the 'aryan' type. Watts is too girlish to be a real sex symbol. Close looks like Mrs. Doubtfire. Not ugly but no beauty. Like Streep, she coasted on talent than looks. Linney same thing. Next-door-girl-woman type.

    Now, Shue and Stone are Wasp Blonde types, but Shue faded and Stone sunk like a stone after CASINO. Pfeiffer had a blonde babe role in SCARFACE but most of her roles went against type.
    Dern is likable but no looker. She looks like Olive Oyl and Sweat Pea. Uma actually looks exotic. She could almost pass for non-white. Kate Hudson is half-Jewish. Isn't her mother Goldie Hawn?

    This becomes further complicated by the fact that some non-blondes had the 'Aryan' look. Greta Garbo is a famous case.

    By Aryan-Wasp blonde type, we mean someone like Veronica Lake. Or Grace Kelly(never liked her), the kind of women Hitchcock slobbered after. And Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich.

    That archetype was more common in Classic Hollywood, but even back then, the great majority of the big famous actresses were not blonde. Rosalind Russell, Barbra Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Kathrine Hepburn, Donna Reed, Rita Hayworth(though her hair was dyed blonde in LADY FROM SHANGHAI), Audrey Hepburn, Joan Fontaine, Bette Davis, Jean Simmons, and etc.

    This stuff about how Hollywood used to be dominated by big tall Wasp types and that Dustin Hoffman was something NEW and DARING in THE GRADUATE is total nonsense.

    For one thing, many of those famous wasp actors were not tall.
    And one of the biggest stars was young Mickey Rooney, and everyone knew he wasn't tall. Paul Muni had lots of big roles. James Cagney was this runty Irishman and one of the biggest stars. Bogart wasn't tall and not wasp-looking(though a wasp), and he was one of the biggest stars. Edward G. Robinson, Jewish, was a big name. And Perkins the weirdo did youth roles before Hoffman came along. James Dean in REBEL looked downright demented. And his best pal was Sal Mineo.

    The Aryan Blonde Wasp domination is one of those tropes that never go away. It's like Haven Monahan.

    Like Streep, she coasted on talent [rather] than looks.

    It’s terrible when someone decides to coast on their talent. Or when they coast on hard work. So unfair.

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  124. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @utu
    Hackman?

    Gene Hackman is not Jewish. Per Wikipedia he is of Pennsylvania Dutch(German), English and Scottish ancestry.

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  125. biz says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a 'race', when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain's second national anthem, William Blake's Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    First off, this is not true:

    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a ‘race’

    I know, I know, Mike Wallace’s awkward interview with Morgan Freeman 35 years ago which will forever be on endless loop here, but aside from that one incident, if there is one thing that American Jews on the Left and Right agree on, it is that they are white. The former because they believe that privilege is real and the po’ folks are being kept down, and the latter because they are proud that they have successfully assimilated to the highest socioeconomic culture.

    Around here people are fond of sarcastically citing Tim Wise’s “fellow white people” rant so it is strange to now claim that American Jews are presenting themselves as a distinct race.

    In fact, having experienced both educated American and British worldviews, I can say that it is the (non-Jewish) British people who are more likely to view being Jewish as a distinct ethnicity (not race, of course) whereas (non-Jewish) Americans often view being Jewish (incorrectly) as strictly a religious choice.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    American Jews are highly integrated, as are British Jews, so yes, it is all an illusion.

    The one difference that is sociologically interesting is that British Jews overwhelmingly support the Tory party.

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    The one difference that is sociologically interesting is that British Jews overwhelmingly support the Tory party.
     
    Perhaps the longer-rooted Sephardic portion was always right-leaning (at least since its political emancipation and not just because of Disraeli) due to the Tories being the party of business? The later Eastern European immigrants woud've been more enthused by radical ideas.

    I seem to recall a Jewish Tory MP from the 1950s, Gerald Toledano (?), who pretty much campaigned on an anti-immigration and pro-Empire platform in more explicit terms than would Enoch Powell.

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  126. Ragno says:
    @Mr. Anon
    That picture might be the only one I've seen that makes her look good. She looks like a less attractive Eleanor Bron, (who, BTW, was one of those enigmatic beauties who defined the 1960s).

    Eleanor Bron! From Wimpy Burger!

    A real Frobisher & Gleason raspberry-flavored ice lolly that girl was……

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    Bedazzled was one of the great comedies of all time.
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  127. Jack D says:
    @Verymuchalive
    Actually, apart from albinos, redheads have fairer skin than blondes. Redheads very rarely dye or bleach their hair, so most keep strong, healthy hair into middle age and beyond. The vast majority of redheads use sensible sunbathing methods, live in cool climates or both. As a result, IMHO they have better complexions than blondes and brunettes.
    But they don't get the same attention that Jews, Arabs and Latins reserve for blondes.
    If you are a man, however, being red-haired is definitely a bit of a drawback. In white societies, "ginger minger" is a term of mockery. It's a wonder, Trump even became President. When was the Last US President before Trump who was red-haired ? Last British PM ? Last French President ? Can't even guess.
    Strangely, this is not the case in some non-white societies. My young friend Ross - Scottish by name, red-haired by nature - was in the Philippines with his girlfriend a few years back. The amount of attention he got from attractive, young Filipinas was immense - they were rubbing up against him, giving him their phone numbers and tugging his pubic hair ! He was told by other foreigners that the locals had a "thing" about redheads.

    Gingers get a lot of teasing. And it’s dangerous for them to go out in the sun for more than 10 minutes unless they cover all exposed areas with sunscreen because they have no tanning ability, only burning ability. On females, the “white as milk” complexion can be attractive though not in accordance with modern tastes. On men and less attractive (e.g. fat) females, it makes you resemble a dead fish.

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  128. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @njguy73

    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair.
     
    Moving the goalposts much? You said "superstar," not, "someone I'd like to do." Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    My point, and one that Sailer himself brought up when reviewing Chicago back in 2002, when Weinstein was at his Oscar-snagging peak, is this:

    Blonde woman don't need to have classic features to be considered as attractive as non-blondes. Zellweger and Zeta-Jones were marketed as equally hot.

    I'll put it in manosphere terms: to be considered Hollywood-worthy:
    - blondes need to be HB6
    - brunettes need to be HB8
    - redheads need to have jugs like Christina Hendricks, or acting chops like Julianne Moore

    Moving the goalposts much? You said “superstar,” not, “someone I’d like to do.” Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    Streep was never a superstar. A big name to be sure, but she insisted on being an ACTOR, an ARTIST, a SERIOUS person.

    A star has a big personality that you can always recognize. And this factor is bigger than talent. Wayne was always Wayne. He was a star. Eastwood is a star. Orson Welles made that distinction. A star is bigger than the role he plays. Welles considered James Dean a star even though he made only 3 movies. There was that Dean mystique.

    Streep is a zilch as persona. She always tried to disappear into her roles, esp with accents that were annoying as hell in the 80s. I hoped lions would devour her in OUT OF AFRICA.

    Most of the names you mentioned were never superstars. I mean if you say Helen Hunt, people will say, ‘Oh yeah, she was good in that movie’, but there is no Hunt mystique.

    And Hollywood didn’t try to turn them into mega-stars, largely because the old studio system has been dead for a long time. In the past, a studio owned an actor or actress and created and built up her persona. It’s like what Woltz says of his ‘protege’ in THE GODFATHER. Today, Hollywood system is looser and more fragmented, and actors have to scramble in everyone-for-himself mode. They are more like free agents. They don’t always wind behind their back. Hollywood is not creating people like Norma Desmond anymore, people who were invented but came to believe in their own myths.

    We’ve still had stars but most of them are shadows of past stars who were really BIG.

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    Aha, now I get it.

    There are no blonde superstars. There are no brunette superstars. There are no superstars, period.

    Oscars don't make a superstar, record-setting box-office grosses don't make a superstar, top salaries don't make a superstar. Mystique make superstars, and that mystique doesn't exist anymore.

    There are only flavors-of -the-month, temporary It Girls, and serviceable actress whom Vanity Fair is trying to make happen.

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  129. Jack D says:
    @njguy73

    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair.
     
    Moving the goalposts much? You said "superstar," not, "someone I'd like to do." Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    My point, and one that Sailer himself brought up when reviewing Chicago back in 2002, when Weinstein was at his Oscar-snagging peak, is this:

    Blonde woman don't need to have classic features to be considered as attractive as non-blondes. Zellweger and Zeta-Jones were marketed as equally hot.

    I'll put it in manosphere terms: to be considered Hollywood-worthy:
    - blondes need to be HB6
    - brunettes need to be HB8
    - redheads need to have jugs like Christina Hendricks, or acting chops like Julianne Moore

    I’ve never understood Zellweger’s appeal. I’m not even sure she is a 6 by Hollywood standards. She has a pig face and chipmunk cheeks even when she is not overweight.

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    Did she sleep with Harvey...
    , @Steve Sailer
    Zellweger is part Lapp.
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  130. songbird says:

    I’m not sure that I totally agree. They may not be as prevalent as Jewish males, but they are still quite prevalent.

    One example of the opposite trend, where they seem to pick someone who is more Jewish-looking, deliberately eschewing traditional Hollywood casting was Star Trek TNG, when (I’m guessing it was Roddenberry) picked Marina Sirtis, who isn’t Jewish, but has a somewhat darker look, being ethnically Greek.

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    There's a funny little quirk William Shatner and Chris Pine both have. They're both Irish-Jewish crosses. For that matter, so is Harrison Ford. Apparently that particular mixture really rings the bell in Hollywood, Jewish for the shrewdness, and Irish for the alpha male appearance.
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  131. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian
    The University of Illinois is just as good as Princeton, Maybe not Harvard. In humanities and STEM subjects.

    I think you are overstating it a bit. Champagne-Urban is is ranked high in engineering but in most other areas, even STEM areas, Princeton is stronger. Historically the Ivies sucked and continue to suck in engineering. Most Ivies have their roots as colonial divinity schools on the British model while the strong engineering schools were form mainly as land grant universities (BTW, it’s little known that MIT is a land grant university) in the post Civil War period when America was becoming an industrial society and were designed on the German model. Engineering is too trade-schoolish to be appealing to Ivy intellectuals.

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  132. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous
    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey's allegations are much more serious.

    Which allegations against Spacey are more serious? There’s one report of him drunkenly hitting on a 14y.o. Anthony Rapp when Spacey was 26. All the other reports appear to be of him hitting on men of age, if on the young side.

    The allegations against the two men are quite different. The ones against Spacey do seem weirder in ways. Him fondling young men in public, including (allegedly) the 18 y.o. son of Richard Dreyfuss *while his dad was in the room.* Spacey is not an especially big man, so disparate strength was not a huge issue, especially when all his targets were men.

    The allegations against Weinstein feature a very large man harassing young women, in the privacy of his hotel room while he was in the position of making hiring decisions which could make or break careers.

    If you think the two cases are remotely similar then all I can say is seek professional help, because I doubt anyone here can help you.

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    You're right - the allegations against Spacey are much more serious. In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the "he said, she said variety" and between adults. The women may or may not have consented. Whereas a 14 year old is legally incapable of giving consent, so if the jury believes that the incident actually occurred, Spacey is automatically guilty.
    , @James Kabala
    This is inaccurate. Another man has claimed he actually had a relationship with Spacey at age fourteen. http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html Is this true? I don't know. But it is certainly a very serious accusation.

    If Jon Stewart was worth a post for (probably falsely) claiming he never hard about Louis CK's behavior, but not for anything (as far as we know) that he actually did himself, than I would think Spacey would be worthy of a post.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Oh, there's much, much more brewing in the Spacey case:

    "Almost killed several of the boys"

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-island.html

    "Raped about a dozen boys in one of the poorest countries in the world."

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/four-for-friday-more-on-island-and.html

    Breaking the rules at Bohemian Grove.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/10/blind-items-revealed-6_30.html

    And he's such BFFs with Bubba, too...
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  133. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Jessica Lange, Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt, Renee Zellweger…


    Basinger is a babe type. Lange is ancient history. She was in KING KONG and sort of faded.

    As for the others, they are blonde or semi-blonde but not the blonde goddess/bimbo type. Streep was never sexy. Blanchett isn't a looker at all. Witherspoon is cute but no hottie, and she rode on her comedic talent. Foster is just barely blonde, and her career has been an odd one difficult to pigeonhole.

    …blonde female nominees include Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Felicity Huffman, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone, Michelle Pfieffer, Laura Dern, Melanie Griffith, Uma Thurman, Rachel McAdams, Virginia Madsen, Kate Hudson…

    Again, you're missing the point. By 'blonde', we don't mean someone with blonde hair. I mean Streisand could pass as blonde. Most of the actresses you mentioned are NOT the 'aryan' type. Watts is too girlish to be a real sex symbol. Close looks like Mrs. Doubtfire. Not ugly but no beauty. Like Streep, she coasted on talent than looks. Linney same thing. Next-door-girl-woman type.

    Now, Shue and Stone are Wasp Blonde types, but Shue faded and Stone sunk like a stone after CASINO. Pfeiffer had a blonde babe role in SCARFACE but most of her roles went against type.
    Dern is likable but no looker. She looks like Olive Oyl and Sweat Pea. Uma actually looks exotic. She could almost pass for non-white. Kate Hudson is half-Jewish. Isn't her mother Goldie Hawn?

    This becomes further complicated by the fact that some non-blondes had the 'Aryan' look. Greta Garbo is a famous case.

    By Aryan-Wasp blonde type, we mean someone like Veronica Lake. Or Grace Kelly(never liked her), the kind of women Hitchcock slobbered after. And Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich.

    That archetype was more common in Classic Hollywood, but even back then, the great majority of the big famous actresses were not blonde. Rosalind Russell, Barbra Stanwyck, Vivien Leigh, Kathrine Hepburn, Donna Reed, Rita Hayworth(though her hair was dyed blonde in LADY FROM SHANGHAI), Audrey Hepburn, Joan Fontaine, Bette Davis, Jean Simmons, and etc.

    This stuff about how Hollywood used to be dominated by big tall Wasp types and that Dustin Hoffman was something NEW and DARING in THE GRADUATE is total nonsense.

    For one thing, many of those famous wasp actors were not tall.
    And one of the biggest stars was young Mickey Rooney, and everyone knew he wasn't tall. Paul Muni had lots of big roles. James Cagney was this runty Irishman and one of the biggest stars. Bogart wasn't tall and not wasp-looking(though a wasp), and he was one of the biggest stars. Edward G. Robinson, Jewish, was a big name. And Perkins the weirdo did youth roles before Hoffman came along. James Dean in REBEL looked downright demented. And his best pal was Sal Mineo.

    The Aryan Blonde Wasp domination is one of those tropes that never go away. It's like Haven Monahan.

    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of “Aryan” is not what most people’s definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. “Aryan blonde” to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn’t matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she’s not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    There are also some really beautiful Jewish or half Jewish actresses who are/were quite successful, Natalie Portman, Goldie Hawn, Amanda Peet, Lisa Kudrow, even Rachel Weisz herself is quite successful. I don’t think it’s an anti-Jew thing, I think it’s more a combination of your last name and how “ethnic” you look. Take Russell Wong and Keanu Reeves, both half Asian and good looking, Wong is a better actor but Reeves is much more successful because he has a non-Asian last name and a less Asian look.

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    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of “Aryan” is not what most people’s definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. “Aryan blonde” to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn’t matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she’s not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    What are you talking about? My point is precisely that 'Aryan' means something close to the Nordic Ideal, the Icy Blonde, the Teutonic Hero.

    My point is that these Aryan types were not that common in Hollywood. And hardly anyone used the term in relation to most Hollywood actors, even tall gentile ones.
    'Aryan'-ness has connotations of hardness, grandeur, angularity, and/or iciness.

    Theron could have been a stunning 'Aryan' actress, but she opted to play against type in most movies. I think she was in MONSTER. Didn't see it cuz of the Ewwww factor.

    Diane Keaton was never 'Aryan'. Too droopy like the cartoon dog. Meg Ryan was too much girl-next-door type. Monroe isn't Aryan either. Too cartoony, fleshy, accessible, and easy... like Suzanne Somers, Lucille Balle, and Judy Holliday.
    Aryan-ness in woman implies distance, pride, elitism. Hard to Get.
    Greta Garbo had the look. But she laughed in NINOTCHKA.
    Monroe was too much of ditzy whore and easy to fool to be 'Aryan'. Same with Kate Capshaw, or what I saw of her in TEMPLE OF DOOM. Her style was mostly comic, and I thought she was Jewish for the longest time.

    You mentioned some names who could have been 'Aryan' types, but their mode was All-American, which is different from 'Aryan'. Blonde-Americanism is like Beach Boys. Easy and relaxed, embracing and warm. Farrah Fawcett had warmth in CHARLIE'S ANGELS. And some Jewish girls in school bought her shampoo as I recall, great material for jokes by Jewish guys.

    Also, I never got the sense that 'Aryan' types were favored in Hollywood over others. And even tall Anglo or Irish types were not 'Aryan'. John Wayne was a meat-and-potatoes type of guy. More like a bear than an eagle. He could be angry but never hard.
    But, hardness is what Aryanism is about. A sense of ruthless. Schwarzenegger was 'Aryan' in THE TERMINATOR, though he camped it up like a Macho Homo in a gay bar. And Dolph Lunkheadren in ROCKY IV, the Aryan-Russkie, rather ironic since Russkies beat the Nazis. But except for Schwarnegger, these big 'Aryan' actors hardly went anywhere in Hollywood. Rutger Hauer had promise, and he was a great Aryan type in BLADE RUNNER. But he was hardly used to much effect in Hollywood... which is too bad since he had looks and talent. (He was really good in the much underrated OSTERMAN WEEKEND.)

    Most tall Anglo types were hardly Aryan. Reagan was all-American. The Gipper. And he was never favored as an actor.
    Clark Gable had that charm. His masculinity, like Errol Flynn's, was too dashing and dazzling to be 'Aryan'.
    And Jimmy Stewart an 'Aryan'. No way.

    Oddly enough, one of the most Aryan-type heroes was Heston as Moses in TEN COMMANDMENTS. He was big and tall and hard and proud and ruthless. He moved in that movie like a statue by Arno Breker.

    Another element that undermined Aryanism was American-style individualism. For Aryanism to come off, there has to be a sense, explicit or implicit, that the grand hero(or villain) is member of some higher order, natural or political.
    But Americanism always favored the individual. So, William Holden usually takes no sides. He cares about numero uno. And Steven McQueen could have been an Aryan type but he's the all-American who hates authority and does his own thing... like bouncing the baseball in his cell in THE GREAT ESCAPE.
    And even the most memorable American villains tend to be individualist, like Robert Mitchum in NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and CAPE FEAR.
    Half-Jewish Paul Newman could do the 'Aryan'-type if he wanted, and he did love playing tough guys. But his loner-style was so American.

    To be sure, Americanism is contradictory. It's like George C. Scott in PATTON has a duality. He denounces individualism as just a lot of crock. He says the men must work as a team. But he is a maverick and staunch individualist who gets in hot water with his superiors all the time. And even as he insists on group-effort and cooperation, he says Americans love winners like fastest runner and toughest boxer, who are individual victors.

    Among American actors, Richard Widmark could have been a great Aryan type, and he did play heavies. But he never quite became the stars like the really big ones.
    Kirk Douglas had 'Aryan' qualities, esp in THE VIKINGS, but he was Jewish.
    Jack Palance looked exotic but he was the most frightening thing since the SS in SHANE.

    In more recent times, Darryl Hannah could have been a big 'Aryan'-like star, but her star faded fast. And Fawcett dropped off the radar soon after leaving TV. Jenny McCarthy? Was she in any movie or just on TV?
    These 'Aryan' or potentially-Aryan types do exist in Hollywood, but they are not favored by the industry. And they haven't been since the beginning.

    And we mustn't confuse Wasp with Aryan. And even among Wasps, there is the narrow meaning of Wasp as Eastern Establishment, preppy, elitist, snobby, or uptight AND the rest of Anglos who could be more like cowboys and hillbillies. And even though Wisconsin Germans and Scandies in Minnesota could be called 'wasp', their style and attitudes were rather at odds with East Coast Anglo style and establishment.

    And given how much Wasps have fallen in pride and prestige, they should just be called Wisps.

    Interestingly enough, the man who 'Aryanized' certain all-American actors was Sergio Leone. He turned Henry Fonda, Young Mr. Lincoln, into SS killer of the West. Cold and ruthless.. but magnificent.

    , @anonymous
    Keanu Reeves isn't half Asian. He has distant Chinese ancestry and about one quarter Hawaiian ancestry, so he's roughly one quarter non-white alltogether.
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  134. @Steve Sailer
    I find that abstract hypothetical question excessively personal.

    Was Karl excessively personal ?

    Of course he was.

    Abstract ?

    Not so much;

    ABSTRACT (adj.):

    1.) thought of apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or actual instances: an abstract idea.

    2.) expressing a quality or characteristic apart from any specific object or instance, as justice,poverty, and speed.

    3.) theoretical; not applied or practical:abstract science.

    4.) difficult to understand; abstruse: abstract speculations.

    ***************************************************************************************************************

    bored identity is here to help by offering abstract, plausible, and tasteful solution to Karl’s Dilemma:

    Any time Sailer some abstract blogger uses panhandled financial resources to gloriously resurrect some of his kitchen appliances, or garage door,or something, he gets one step closer from making Mrs. Sailer his significant one to bliss out to the freshly shingled roof.

    And being in Bliss Out Mode could be a powerful aphrodisiac.

    (bored identity hopes that his enthusiastic curb will not be subject of the dreaded whim.)

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  135. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Almost Missouri
    Lena Dunham would have been a better example than Amy Schumer.

    "It’s news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors."
     
    Rachael's assertion was, "Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate." So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    Also, you should get a Commenting Handle. I would highlight it as a preferred commenter. Even if I don't agree with everything you write, your comments are original and provocative.

    Rachael’s assertion was, “Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate.” So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    I think she overstates it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_American_actresses

    I think Thread Bare was one of the first sex symbols.

    And even though she played a ‘shikse’ in SAMSON AND DELILAH, Hedy Lamarr(or Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler) was Jewish(or half-Jewish like Paul Newman).
    Saw it on the big screen I was 6 or 7. Really out the zap in me.

    I think Jennifer Connelly is also half-Jewish. We should make a distinction between ethnic-looking Jews and ‘Aryan’-looking Jews, many of whom are part Jewish, like Newman. The difference isn’t as stark as blacks and mulattoes, but there must be… something. Scarlett Johansson is part-Jewish and plays an ‘Aryan’ in GHOST WORLD.

    It’s half-Irish-half-Italian mobsters are accepted in the mafia but cannot be ‘made’.

    That said, given how much the actresses had to put out to the Power in Hollywood, there was probably some trepidation about Jewish women in the business.

    There’s a scene in CAFE SOCIETY where the Eisinger, newly arrived in Hollywood, calls a hooker but sends her declines when he realizes she is also Jewish.

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  136. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Monroe was not a dummy.

    That was the myth. That she was really an intelligent complex person. THAT is the lie she bought into, and it did her more harm than good. Had she accepted her role as a pretty woman who got lucky and famous, she would have managed her life better. But those around her fed her the notion that the REAL Norma Jean was a thinking person into arts, cultures, books, and etc. These pretensions had a corrosive effect on her. It was like a fish trying to be a land creature.

    She was happy as a dummy playing dummy. But then, the myth was she was really a smartie playing a dummy in movies but playing a smartie in real life when she was dumb to fall for that nonsense.

    It was way over her head and she was soon dead.

    We have replay of this over and over in Hollywood. Ashley Judd is another one. She could have been a nice pretty actress doing simple roles. But she was fed with this notion that she is a complex person, an artist, an intelligent woman, and etc when she was being played. When dummies take themselves seriously, they end up like Judd, screaming about how she is a 'nasty woman' liberated, empowered, and enlightened when others are pulling the strings.

    Jodie Foster, like her or not, is really smart. So is Natalie Portman.
    Judd is a dummy. Nothing wrong with being a dummy as most people are dummies. But when dummies are spoonfed BS about how they are so much more, they just make total fools of themselves.

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies' egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    Just go with University of Illinois.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzN2z6MM_G4

    This is how SCIENTOLOGY played on the insecurities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta. Cruise and Travolta are likable actors. But not Princeton material. But Scientology fed them with notions that they are like gods or masters of the universe. When dummies’ egos are inflated, they turn really tardo.

    LOL that is so true!

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  137. Not OT in the least. Looks like a breakthrough is starting to happen. this is like the moment in sci-fi films when the scientists and aliens manage to find a connection or when Helen Keller says “water!”:

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    Thanks to social media, we finally have a moment that feels a little like ....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AphKxQ2NsQo
    , @Pericles
    One of the special publications for the special people notices that the goyim have noticed. Terror, chaos, internet down, military forces sent into the streets.
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  138. @Cagey Beast
    Not OT in the least. Looks like a breakthrough is starting to happen. this is like the moment in sci-fi films when the scientists and aliens manage to find a connection or when Helen Keller says "water!":

    https://twitter.com/jdforward/status/929003968352661504

    Thanks to social media, we finally have a moment that feels a little like ….

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  139. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey
    Which allegations against Spacey are more serious? There's one report of him drunkenly hitting on a 14y.o. Anthony Rapp when Spacey was 26. All the other reports appear to be of him hitting on men of age, if on the young side.

    The allegations against the two men are quite different. The ones against Spacey do seem weirder in ways. Him fondling young men in public, including (allegedly) the 18 y.o. son of Richard Dreyfuss *while his dad was in the room.* Spacey is not an especially big man, so disparate strength was not a huge issue, especially when all his targets were men.

    The allegations against Weinstein feature a very large man harassing young women, in the privacy of his hotel room while he was in the position of making hiring decisions which could make or break careers.

    If you think the two cases are remotely similar then all I can say is seek professional help, because I doubt anyone here can help you.

    You’re right – the allegations against Spacey are much more serious. In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the “he said, she said variety” and between adults. The women may or may not have consented. Whereas a 14 year old is legally incapable of giving consent, so if the jury believes that the incident actually occurred, Spacey is automatically guilty.

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    In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the “he said, she said variety” and between adults.

    In the case of Spacey, the charges are all of the “he said, he said variety” and between adults. All accusers are adults now.

    Then there are questions about the statute of limitation. What were they when the acts were committed and what stops the clock.
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  140. @LondonBob
    Monroe was an idiot, controlled by Mickey Cohen and his mobster pals, according LAPD detective Gary Wean, who had to tail Cohen.

    n 1960, the USA's presidential election was between Nixon (Eisenhower’s vice president) and John Kennedy. Kennedy was a legendary philanderer, and Cohen and friends tried exploiting JFK’s proclivities. According to legend, JFK met Marilyn Monroe through a connection with Frank Sinatra. Right there was a possible organized crime connection, but Gary wrote that another member of the “rat pack,” Joey Bishop (who knew Cohen well - Gary wrote that Bishop even worked for Cohen), came up with the idea of introducing Monroe to JFK, and Gary looked in on Peter Lawford’s (JFK’s in-law) beach-house party when JFK and Monroe were introduced, in 1960, during the Democratic national convention.

    As with Stompanato and Turner, Cohen underling Georgie Piscitelli became Monroe’s lover. Cohen got a tape of them in bed together and played it for Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamster boss who later received cement shoes from the Mafia and who was then feeling the heat from Attorney General Bobby Kennedy. They promised Hoffa a tape of JFK and Monroe in bed together (so that Hoffa could blackmail JFK into halting Bobby Kennedy’s efforts), but could never deliver. Monroe was being used as the world’s highest-class hooker. In 2013 and 2014, new allegations of Monroe/JFK sex tapes arose.

    Cohen and friends wanted to know what Kennedy's intentions were toward Israel. Monroe was supposed to elicit it during pillow talk. Monroe was controlled by mobsters and was kept on all manner of narcotic. When she became increasingly uncontrollable and potentially dangerous if she publicly talked about what was happening, she was murdered. Gary had Cohen under surveillance, and caught him and Begin having a conversation in Yiddish in a diner. They were talking about Kennedy, Israel, and how much money Kennedy was wasting on the Peace Corps and other programs.

    Gary's testimony regarding JFK, John Tower, Marilyn Monroe, Menachem Begin, Jack Ruby, and Mick Cohen is just part of his amazing tale, which he published at great risk with his book .There's a Fish in the Courthouse'.. By the year 2000, the only JFK assassination book that I was aware of that even mentioned Gary was Final Judgment, by Michael Collins Piper, who heavily relied on Gary’s testimony. Gary thought that Jewish gangsters were involved in interposing Hunt’s grand scheme. That does not mean that Allen Dulles (the CIA chief whom Kennedy fired over the Bay of Pigs, and who later served on the Warren Commission), J. Edgar Hoover, George Bush, and others were not also involved in interposing Hunt’s scheme and playing Hunt for a chump.

    There are excerpts from her letters where she discusses acting and politics. She was by no means a complete Twit, although you will probably dismiss them as studio forgeries.
    Unfortunately, she was constantly looking for that Daddy Figure, and it made her a sitting duck for a lot of bad hombres.

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    I admit I don't particularly know what I am talking about. You don't get to where she did by being idiot, but she clearly had deep seated issues others exploited.
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  141. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @foobc2
    Aryans have never been blonde, ever. If you never spoke a Sanskrit derived language nor followed the Aryan religion (Hinduism), then by definition you could never be Aryan.

    Aryan - only - appears in the Hindu (v)Eddas, a Sanskrit/Hindi word used by the Aryans to self describe their own Aryan religion and their language. Along with the holy (and only) Hindu Swastika, the red forehead dot (also religious) is called laltika.

    There are 500 million or so Aryans in India (the other 500 million or so being of the Dravidian race)

    Red, brown and black hair are all common but blonde was never common to the people described in the Eddas (except for some edge cases, maybe Indra but that's about it really).

    There’s no evidence for the popular conflation of Aryanism with blondism. The homeland of the Aryans appears to have been Central Asia, while the blond/blue eye phenotype originated on the Baltic coast. That’s a difference of a thousand miles.

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  142. Andy says:
    @foobc2
    Aryans have never been blonde, ever. If you never spoke a Sanskrit derived language nor followed the Aryan religion (Hinduism), then by definition you could never be Aryan.

    Aryan - only - appears in the Hindu (v)Eddas, a Sanskrit/Hindi word used by the Aryans to self describe their own Aryan religion and their language. Along with the holy (and only) Hindu Swastika, the red forehead dot (also religious) is called laltika.

    There are 500 million or so Aryans in India (the other 500 million or so being of the Dravidian race)

    Red, brown and black hair are all common but blonde was never common to the people described in the Eddas (except for some edge cases, maybe Indra but that's about it really).

    Most specialists believe that when the Aryans reach India they mixed with the existing Dravidian population. Thus most languages in India are Indoeuropean, even though the phenotype of the Indians is different from the Europeans (yet, southern Indians, where the Aryans did not reach, tend to have darker skin than northern Indians)

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  143. Andy says:
    @foobc2
    Aryans have never been blonde, ever. If you never spoke a Sanskrit derived language nor followed the Aryan religion (Hinduism), then by definition you could never be Aryan.

    Aryan - only - appears in the Hindu (v)Eddas, a Sanskrit/Hindi word used by the Aryans to self describe their own Aryan religion and their language. Along with the holy (and only) Hindu Swastika, the red forehead dot (also religious) is called laltika.

    There are 500 million or so Aryans in India (the other 500 million or so being of the Dravidian race)

    Red, brown and black hair are all common but blonde was never common to the people described in the Eddas (except for some edge cases, maybe Indra but that's about it really).

    By the way, it is possible that Aryans, though light skinned, were not really blond. Aryans, originally from the Eurasian steppe, when they expand to Northern Europe probably mingle with other peoples (perhaps connected with the finno-urics)

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  144. A Tale of Love and Darkness is a beautiful novel that, like most good art, is both rooted in and transcends the specific culture its story is set in. The movie adaptation completely lost the latter aspect, making it quite a detached viewing experience for me, and I imagine anyone else who is not Israeli or Jewish. It had other problems too. The positive reviews out of a mixed reception were mostly for effort. Portman was way too ambitious in writing, directing, and starring in this work as her first feature-length film.

    Speaking of Portman, she’s been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career. I don’t hold her stage name against her. Herschlag is a difficult name for someone in show business, Jewish or not.

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    Oops. In reply to Karl.
    , @Karl
    141 anotherguessmodel > Speaking of Portman, she’s been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career


    at least she's not a former "super model" whose main claim to fame is, having spent a few months being the temporary spare vagina for some Hollywood made-by-plastic-surgery star

    a lot of people forgot to rebuke me for forgetting to remember that a significant fraction of porn is of the "gonzo" genre, where some guy pays the girl to f---- him while he's holding the camera. If that's not the crime of soliciting prostitution, I don't know what is. Maybe it's "art"

    iSteve can dish it out against Jews, but he cannot handle references to his wife. Well, that's White Nationalism for you. It's the Children's Menu.
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  145. scrivener3 says: • Website
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    Read The Painter Bird. There is a woman character who is young and slightly crazy who will sleep with most men. The women of the town band together catch her and torture her.

    A market in sex undermines monogamous family structure. If some women are selling it other women will have a hard time finding a male provider for her and her children. I would guess part of the reason women have less power collectively in Japan is that prostitution is more accepted in Japan. Many religions condemn sex outside of a marriage probably for the same family strengthening purposes, no?

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    This is the correct answer, although I’d quibble a bit with the terms. They all “sell it.” Prostitutes simply sell it much cheaper. Hence, the visceral, histrionic opposition to legal prostitution.
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  146. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s not in the interest of a diaspora people to have attractive women. Obviously nobody wants ugly, but plain is the ideal. Beauty brings only trouble.

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  147. utu says:
    @Jack D
    You're right - the allegations against Spacey are much more serious. In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the "he said, she said variety" and between adults. The women may or may not have consented. Whereas a 14 year old is legally incapable of giving consent, so if the jury believes that the incident actually occurred, Spacey is automatically guilty.

    In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the “he said, she said variety” and between adults.

    In the case of Spacey, the charges are all of the “he said, he said variety” and between adults. All accusers are adults now.

    Then there are questions about the statute of limitation. What were they when the acts were committed and what stops the clock.

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    Six years, generally. Six years from the age of majority should the act occur as a minor.
    , @Jack D
    If you rape someone the day before they turn the age of consent and you are not accused until the next day, this does not change the nature of the crime. Many states do not have statutes of limitation for rape.
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  148. @phil
    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as "speech". Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

    Actually jews were known as brothel keepers back in Tsarist Russia.

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  149. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    The difference, of course, is 'silverman', Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn't. It sounds like horror-wits.

    In many cases, it was not to hide Jewishness. I mean no one would have thought Bob Zimmerman is not Jewish because of the name change. It was just part of the mystique to project a public persona with a different name.

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    Oh, peak Sarah Silverman was rather attractive……just not as attractive as peak Winona Ryder. Hence the envy.

    The difference, of course, is ‘silverman’, Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn’t. It sounds like horror-wits.

    Sarah Silverman did once graciously note that “Sarah Silverman” is a far more euphonious name than “Winona Horowitz”…..

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    My curiosity is how Mom & Dad Horowitz decided to name their daughter Winona.
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  150. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Cary Grant always felt like Archibald Leach. His psychiatrists always told that after making millions of people happy, he deserved to be Cary Grant. But he never believed them until one of them put him on LSD (then legal) and told him again and this time he believed his shrink.

    Cary Grant once noted that every man wants to be Cary Grant, including himself.

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  151. Bill P says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    Brad Pitt’s natural hair color is about average for a northern European. French call it blond but Nordics would just call it brown.

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    There are enough flaxen-haired French for them to have the same view as Scandinavians, but there are just different cultural views of what counts as blonde hair. It doesn't strictly mean yellow hair in professional haircolor charts either.

    Anyway, people are taking the blonde thing way too literally. "Blonde" is shorthand for the fine bone structure and complexion that defines northern European good looks. Melina Mercouri had green eyes and blonde-streaked light brown hair. Catherine Deneuve has brown eyes and medium brown hair. Both of them colored their hair a light yellow. Which of the two actresses is considered a "blonde"?

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  152. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @black sea
    OT (I think):

    Turns out America's first African-American president is married to America's first Jewish-American should-have-been president, were it not for the virulent anti-Semitism deployed against this Righteous Shiksa Sister.

    http://forward.com/opinion/387023/is-hillary-clinton-the-jewish-scapegoat-of-our-time/?attribution=next-article

    It's intersectionality gone wild!

    I suspect some of the vehement Jewish (specifically male Jewish support) that Hillary gets is because in her youth, she was the blonde liberal shiksa they all secretly wanted to marry. There’s a strong nostalgia factor here. Yes, she’s always been bossy and hectoring and lecturing, but that’s the typical Jewish woman in spades, and Jewish men are used to it and like it. The men think there’s something morally wrong with a woman who’s not a nag.

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    Speaking of nagging, some would rather not marry their (future) mother-in-law.
    , @Jack D
    As a Jewish male I can confirm this. In my youth, I had a centerfold of Hillary in a pantsuit and I used it as visual stimulation when relieving my Onanistic urges - after all she was a blonde shiksa and that's all that counts.

    Are you nuts? Hillary even in the brief bloom of her youth was no sex object. I really don't understand how there was ever any sexual chemistry between Bill and her or between her and anyone for that matter. Certainly by the time she became known on the national scene she was matronly and no ones fantasy date.

    PS Jewish males don't want to marry blonde shiksas they just want to humiliate them. They don't even want to shtup them anymore, just wank off in their presence. Please get your anti-Semitic memes right.
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  153. @AnotherGuessModel
    A Tale of Love and Darkness is a beautiful novel that, like most good art, is both rooted in and transcends the specific culture its story is set in. The movie adaptation completely lost the latter aspect, making it quite a detached viewing experience for me, and I imagine anyone else who is not Israeli or Jewish. It had other problems too. The positive reviews out of a mixed reception were mostly for effort. Portman was way too ambitious in writing, directing, and starring in this work as her first feature-length film.

    Speaking of Portman, she's been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career. I don't hold her stage name against her. Herschlag is a difficult name for someone in show business, Jewish or not.

    Oops. In reply to Karl.

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  154. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we’d think of as light brunette for women.

    Depends on the “we.” Even medium brown counts as blond in much of the world. E.g., note how Clint Eastwood’s Man With No Name was called “Blondie” in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Put Eastwood on a set in Spain with a mostly Italian crew, and he’ll start to look blond in comparison to all the other people with dark brown/black hair….

    There was a famous test involving British and French anthropologists many decades ago. They were asked to rate various people on a hair color scale, and the French anthropologists showed a definite tendency to ascribe blondness to people that the Brits rated light brown….

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    There was a famous test involving British and French anthropologists many decades ago. They were asked to rate various people on a hair color scale, and the French anthropologists showed a definite tendency to ascribe blondness to people that the Brits rated light brown….
     
    In Japan, if you have non-brown eyes and any hair color lighter than black, people there start thinking of you as blond.

    Non-white people tend to see the similarities between blond people and what I would call near blonde people quite readily, more holistically whereas white people tend to look at just hair color alone.
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  155. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    Of course, in the case of Sarah Silverman, I suspect that a lot of it has to do with female-vs-female envy, Silverman regarding Ryder as a better looking version of herself…..

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.

    The difference, of course, is 'silverman', Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn't. It sounds like horror-wits.

    In many cases, it was not to hide Jewishness. I mean no one would have thought Bob Zimmerman is not Jewish because of the name change. It was just part of the mystique to project a public persona with a different name.

    In contrast to Sarah Silverman’s resentment of Winona Ryder, note Amy Schumer’s admiring take on Jennifer Lawrence. Schumer has noted that she likes looking at Lawrence as the “idealized” version of Amy Schumer.

    I suspect that the difference between Schumer and Silverman lies in the fact that Silverman is a lot closer in looks to Winona than Schumer is to Lawrence. We envy that which seems attainable….

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    I suspect that the difference between Schumer and Silverman lies in the fact that Silverman is a lot closer in looks to Winona than Schumer is to Lawrence. We envy that which seems attainable…
     
    My wife tells me not to bring home old copies of Real Simple, because all the ads for stuff we can't afford are depressing. But the Robb Report, that's okay. That's just fantasy.
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  156. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @unpc dowunder
    It probably depends on vocal range. Women who can sing the high notes, like Mariah Carey and Kate Bush, tend to be better looking than women with deep vocals (like Aretha Franklin and Adele). I don't know much about dance music, but you'll probably find those women with the ethereal voices you here on trance tracks are relatively attractive.

    1970s UK rock/folk vocalist Annie Haslam was relatively attractive and could certainly hit the high notes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQlEdPL66Q

    The view counts on videos with singing blonde women can be crazy. Look at the numbers for these videos:

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  157. a reader says:
    @phil
    Jews are dominant in the pornography industry and pushed the Supreme Court to consider pornography to be protected under the 1st Amendment as "speech". Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

    Jews are not so involved in prostitution.

    Really?

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  158. @Bill P
    Brad Pitt's natural hair color is about average for a northern European. French call it blond but Nordics would just call it brown.

    There are enough flaxen-haired French for them to have the same view as Scandinavians, but there are just different cultural views of what counts as blonde hair. It doesn’t strictly mean yellow hair in professional haircolor charts either.

    Anyway, people are taking the blonde thing way too literally. “Blonde” is shorthand for the fine bone structure and complexion that defines northern European good looks. Melina Mercouri had green eyes and blonde-streaked light brown hair. Catherine Deneuve has brown eyes and medium brown hair. Both of them colored their hair a light yellow. Which of the two actresses is considered a “blonde”?

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  159. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous
    I don't know if it's self-loathing that Jewish men who control Hollywood do not put more Jewish women on screen. It's probably a money decision. They have to sell what people want. Most people don't have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone, or Rachel Weisz vs. Rachel MacAdams, or Amy Schumer vs. Amy Adams. Studio execs just want to make money. They know that as talented as she is, a Barbara Streisand could never engender the kind of fandom as a Marilyn Monroe, or a Farrah Fawcett, or a Britney Spears. Money talks, and we all know how much Jews love money.

    There's been a lot of complaints about racism in Hollywood over lack of black actors. I think that is again a money decision. Other than themselves, there's no one Jews love more than blacks. But other than Will Smith, who's passed his prime, most black actors just aren't very bankable. Queen Latifah is a great singer and funny as heck, I've always wanted her to host the Oscars but they probably won't let her because of ratings.

    The only group that Jews actively hate in Hollywood are Asians. They always make sure to go out of their way to stereotype Asians. In an article in the NYT last year many Asian actors claimed that they can't get roles without "doing the accent". Hollywood also likes to promote ugly Asian actors, like Sandra Oh, George Takei or Rex Lee in Entourage. Half Asian actors have to change their last names to even get auditions. The careers of Russell Wong and Maggie Q likely would've been more successful had they changed their last names.

    Most people don’t have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone, or Rachel Weisz vs. Rachel MacAdams, or Amy Schumer vs. Amy Adams.

    Dunno. I’d take Rachel Weisz over Rachel McAdams….

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    Dunno. I’d take Rachel Weisz over Rachel McAdams….
     
    Ditto.
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  160. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @theMann
    "Blondeness is nature's clearest warning signal of a naturally cold disposition" - Somerset Maugham.



    Not sure how he personally would have known that, but it is an accurate observation.

    The flip side of this is that brunette hair signals a woman’s got a heck of a temper.

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  161. Mr. Anon says:
    @Ragno
    Eleanor Bron! From Wimpy Burger!

    A real Frobisher & Gleason raspberry-flavored ice lolly that girl was......

    Bedazzled was one of the great comedies of all time.

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    Peter Cook and Dudley Moore were one of the great comic duos of all time as well. And the "Beyond the Fringe" group before that...fantastic.
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  162. Mr. Anon says:
    @syonredux

    Most people don’t have a hard time choosing between Bette Midler and Sharon Stone, or Rachel Weisz vs. Rachel MacAdams, or Amy Schumer vs. Amy Adams.
     
    Dunno. I'd take Rachel Weisz over Rachel McAdams....

    Dunno. I’d take Rachel Weisz over Rachel McAdams….

    Ditto.

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  163. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Return of Shawns
    I've always wondered why rich Gentiles didn't do more when it comes to movie production. If one has money barriers no longer exist.

    In a nutshell, rich WASP women never had to doing anything like doll up and go on a stage to get high-quality men chasing after them. Their money and family connections always did the work for them.

    Traditional WASPs consider acting to be low-class and low-caste. In fact, the farther back you go, the more it was associated with prostitution for women. Part of the problem is that the type of men you meet as an actress are not high-quality males. Hollywood abounds in bounders. Actresses cannot avoid them because they’re so common, and many of them are very slick liars and sociopaths. High-caste WASP male fortune builders have always warned their daughters away from acting because they don’t want their daughters being taken advantage of or being mistreated by these men.

    Decent men who bring home the bacon and stay faithful to their wives and kids do not chase after actresses or circulate in Hollywood. That way lies personal and marital instability, along with substance addiction, and decent men want no part of it.

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  164. LondonBob says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    There are excerpts from her letters where she discusses acting and politics. She was by no means a complete Twit, although you will probably dismiss them as studio forgeries.
    Unfortunately, she was constantly looking for that Daddy Figure, and it made her a sitting duck for a lot of bad hombres.

    I admit I don’t particularly know what I am talking about. You don’t get to where she did by being idiot, but she clearly had deep seated issues others exploited.

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    I admit I don’t particularly know what I am talking about.
     
    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here. At least you had the honesty to admit it.
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  165. Forbes says:
    @Anon
    EMMA: Well, it’s that Jackie Mason joke about how no Jewish woman wants to look Jewish: “‘You think I look maybe a little Italian, I look a little Russian, perhaps I can be Spanish?’ … ‘You look Jewish!’”

    Geekettes of any community generally aren't lookers. Most ethnic and racial groups don't produce a lot of smart intellectual women. So, we don't associate most communities with geekettes.
    But Jewish community produced lots of geekettes, and most of them aint pretty, and so, the when people think 'Jewish woman', they think of someone like Betty Friedan.
    But Susan Sontag was beautiful.

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn't have the looks or charms, they didn't dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn't do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
    And Bob Dylan couldn't sing in the conventional sense. But that didn't faze him none. He was gonna be a rock star when most people would have laughed at the notion. He combined wit and personality and vision. It worked for him.
    At least Streisand had genuine talent as comedienne and Dylan was a great composer and fascinating personality.

    But sometimes, we get second-raters like Amy Schumer. The chutzpah is there but no talent to compensate for deficiencies in other departments. And with Jewish royalty in Hollywood and power of legacy, we've been getting more of these second-rate Jews in entertainment recently. No hunger, just a sense of entitlement. But chutzpah loses its punch and vulgar nobility without struggle. People rooted for Streisand as the underdog who would be princess. But Schumer never had to pay any dues. She feels entitled to be a star, but with what?

    Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.

    I don't really buy this. It was common for any number of ethnic groups to Anglo-ize their names in the 2oth century. Not only Jews did this.
    Also, movie stars wanted glamorous names. Also, she didn't just change her Jewish name but very gentile-sounding names as well. Betty Joan Perske. She lost the Betty and Joan along with Perske.

    In some cases, name change just made good common sense, as with Rudolph Valentino whose full name was Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Pierre Filibert Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguella .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino

    Also, even Anglos and gentiles changed their names.

    Marion Morrison became John Wayne.
    Archibald Alec Leach became Cary Grant.
    Lucille Fay LeSueur became Joan Crawford.
    Norma Jeane Mortenson became Marilyn Monroe.
    And so on.

    It was just part of the Hollywood game of not only playing mythic characters but reinventing yourself.
    It's like how Jimmy Gatz became Jay Gatsby... with people still arguing whether he's supposed to be Jewish or not.

    Also, Winona Ryder was NOT hiding her identity. I mean it's NO handicap to be Jewish in America. If anything, it's a plus. She got rid of 'horowitz' because it's not Star-name.
    Plenty of people knew she was Jewish, and it never threatened her popularity.

    I think Emma and Rachel are over-analyzing this. Their views may have been more relevant in earlier decades but not in the 90s and 2000s.

    And there has never been a shortage of Jewish actors and actresses. Paul Muni, John Garfield, Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Hoffman, Hackman, Peter Sellers, Allen, Brooks, Wilders, Dreyfus, Clayburgh, etc.

    It's news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors.

    Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.

    If this is true, where are they? How many blonde superstar actresses had we had in the past 30 yrs?

    Even in the golden age of Hollywood, most female stars were brunettes, not blondes.
    Marilyn Monroe was the most famous blonde, and she was a dummy and a joke.

    This notion of Jewish women still taking a backseat to Nazi Aryan goddesses is not supported by reality... any more than the notion that Aryan jocks rule Harvard while Jews are underdogs.

    Enough already.

    Rachel Weisz had a nose job–is that evidence of not wanting to look Jewish?

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    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
     
    Same goes for Jewish men. Woody Allen is a prime example. Hollywood would never cast him as a male star and sex symbol, so he cast himself as one in his movies, albeit a neurotic one, and gets gorgeous shiksas like Diane Keaton to fall all over him. Albert Brooks doesn't have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

    Is it possible the main reason Woody Allen went into acting was to increase his chances of having affairs with shiksas?

    Well, that and hogging the screen with a lot of himself and his talk. That’s a Jewish ego thing.

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  167. L Woods says:
    @scrivener3
    Read The Painter Bird. There is a woman character who is young and slightly crazy who will sleep with most men. The women of the town band together catch her and torture her.

    A market in sex undermines monogamous family structure. If some women are selling it other women will have a hard time finding a male provider for her and her children. I would guess part of the reason women have less power collectively in Japan is that prostitution is more accepted in Japan. Many religions condemn sex outside of a marriage probably for the same family strengthening purposes, no?

    This is the correct answer, although I’d quibble a bit with the terms. They all “sell it.” Prostitutes simply sell it much cheaper. Hence, the visceral, histrionic opposition to legal prostitution.

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  168. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @songbird
    I'm not sure that I totally agree. They may not be as prevalent as Jewish males, but they are still quite prevalent.

    One example of the opposite trend, where they seem to pick someone who is more Jewish-looking, deliberately eschewing traditional Hollywood casting was Star Trek TNG, when (I'm guessing it was Roddenberry) picked Marina Sirtis, who isn't Jewish, but has a somewhat darker look, being ethnically Greek.

    There’s a funny little quirk William Shatner and Chris Pine both have. They’re both Irish-Jewish crosses. For that matter, so is Harrison Ford. Apparently that particular mixture really rings the bell in Hollywood, Jewish for the shrewdness, and Irish for the alpha male appearance.

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  169. Forbes says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    All the more shocking given Anniston’s man-jaw and apparent inability to act.

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    All the more shocking given Anniston’s man-jaw and apparent inability to act.
     
    I don't know about the man-jaw.

    Jennifer Anniston, at least in her younger days, was both extremely pretty and cute. I hope that doesn't sound redundant.

    Women who are pretty, maybe even beautiful, are alluring, but also off-putting. It's like the prospect of climbing Everest in a snowstorm. Women who are cute are like a pleasant hike in the hills. Very few women can come across as both.

    Also, Anniston was gracious enough to take on a key role in low-budget film by a little-known director, about the year 2000 switch, for which we should all be grateful.

    When Brad Pitt opted for Angelina Jolie over Jennifer Anniston, he choose insanity over stability, a terrible marital move.
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  170. @theMann
    "Blondeness is nature's clearest warning signal of a naturally cold disposition" - Somerset Maugham.



    Not sure how he personally would have known that, but it is an accurate observation.

    So Maugham is to blame for no one being able to spell “blondness” these days?

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  171. @syonredux
    In contrast to Sarah Silverman's resentment of Winona Ryder, note Amy Schumer's admiring take on Jennifer Lawrence. Schumer has noted that she likes looking at Lawrence as the "idealized" version of Amy Schumer.

    I suspect that the difference between Schumer and Silverman lies in the fact that Silverman is a lot closer in looks to Winona than Schumer is to Lawrence. We envy that which seems attainable....

    I suspect that the difference between Schumer and Silverman lies in the fact that Silverman is a lot closer in looks to Winona than Schumer is to Lawrence. We envy that which seems attainable…

    My wife tells me not to bring home old copies of Real Simple, because all the ads for stuff we can’t afford are depressing. But the Robb Report, that’s okay. That’s just fantasy.

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  172. Forbes says:
    @Karl
    39 Corn > Guess it’s not legally prostitution if you record it and sell it


    according to what i've read, that's only true in one court district. There was ONE case, and the prosecutor never appealed it. Hence, a court precedent in that one jurisdiction

    Also: the male actors aren't paying the actress for sex. So it gets into "elements of the offense"

    Consider: is it illegal if I offer to pay iSteve's wife to have sex with him tomorrow night?

    The detail of “wife” probably answers the question of legality, ffs.

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  173. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
     
    Same goes for Jewish men. Woody Allen is a prime example. Hollywood would never cast him as a male star and sex symbol, so he cast himself as one in his movies, albeit a neurotic one, and gets gorgeous shiksas like Diane Keaton to fall all over him. Albert Brooks doesn't have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

    Albert Brooks doesn’t have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

    Brooks was just an actor in BROADCAST.

    But in his self-directed movies, he’s quite a ladies’ man, albeit a screwy one.

    Take MODERN ROMANCE, one of the funniest shi* I ever did see.

    And there is a neocon-ish Podhoretzism in his movies, also shared by David Mamet, esp in HOMICIDE where Jewish manhood his impugned by blacks.

    In REAL LIFE, there’s a hilarious scene where Brooks tells the black sociologist that blacks are stronger and the superior race. It is a laugh riot.
    In MODERN ROMANCE, Brooks’ character is taken aback by some Negro talking about his woman. I saw it with my sister. She picked it up immediately.
    In DEFENDING YOUR LIFE, the Negro guy has a BIG brain. My sis hated that movie as ‘racist’.

    Allen’s movies sees Wasp men as the main rival. Brooks has the Big White Guy stereotype too, esp in LOST IN AMERICA. But he seems to feel the threat from all around. From blacks too.

    This is one of the funniest scene in MODERN ROMANCE.

    It’s noteworthy that it’s Brooks who dumps all the women in this movie… including the lovely Kathryn Harrold.

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    the lovely Kathryn Harrold
     
    was married from 1994–2013 to Lawrence O'Donnell. Cute but stupid.
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  174. Forbes says:
    @syonredux

    Actually, Silverman is quite attractive but her ugly personality buries it. She is like Joan Rivers on crack. Rivers was great.
     
    Oh, peak Sarah Silverman was rather attractive......just not as attractive as peak Winona Ryder. Hence the envy.

    The difference, of course, is ‘silverman’, Jewish or not, is a cool-sounding name whereas Horowitz isn’t. It sounds like horror-wits.
     
    Sarah Silverman did once graciously note that "Sarah Silverman" is a far more euphonious name than "Winona Horowitz".....

    My curiosity is how Mom & Dad Horowitz decided to name their daughter Winona.

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    My curiosity is how Mom & Dad Horowitz decided to name their daughter Winona.
     
    After her birthplace:

    Ryder was born Winona Laura Horowitz[7] in a farmhouse near Winona, Minnesota,[1][8] the daughter of Cynthia Palmer (née Istas)[1] and Michael Horowitz.[9] Her mother is an author, video producer, and editor.[10] Her father is an author, editor, publisher, and antiquarian bookseller.[10][11][12] He also worked as an archivist for psychedelic guru Dr. Timothy Leary (who was Ryder's godfather).
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder
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  175. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Impressive

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  176. Forbes says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    So, men like prostitutes with an athletic build, very long blonde hair and a D-cup bosom. Is that the world ideal for female beauty?

    The market reflecting supply and demand–men will pay–and pay up–for that which is rare. It is more likely that the four characteristics are separate variables. Meaning, statistically speaking, they are outliers when combined, and do not represent the mean (where the highest frequency occurs) of perceived ideal female beauty.

    PS: It might be better said that men that like prostitutes, like women that have athletic bodies, long blonde hair and large bosoms. Men that like prostitutes would not be representative of all men’s likes.

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  177. Forbes says:
    @whorefinder
    Hope's birth name was Leslie Townes Hope. Changed it to Bob to have broader appeal.

    Another goyim example: Cary Grant, born Archie Leach. Humorously, Grant made deliberate reference to his real name in His Girl Friday. Grant was a very talented comedian trapped in a romantic lead's body:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBX9IJPvvpo

    Archie Leach was the character name of John Cleese in “A Fish Named Wanda.” Cleese, who didn’t change his name–his father did, it was originally Cheese–was born in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, the birthplace of Bob Hope’s father, William Henry Hope.

    In a few degrees we’ll get to Kevin Bacon…

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  178. Forbes says:
    @Anonymouse
    watching the news last night i observed outloud (as others apparently did) that scoldings about sexual harrassment disseminated by ugly people of indeterminate gender are hilarious.

    Envy. Of looks. Of attention. Of fantasy.

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  179. Forbes says:
    @Jack D
    I've never understood Zellweger's appeal. I'm not even sure she is a 6 by Hollywood standards. She has a pig face and chipmunk cheeks even when she is not overweight.

    Did she sleep with Harvey…

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  180. TWS says:
    @Pericles
    Pedophilia, eh? Here's a party at Roland Emmerich's house (a few years old). It apparently had to do with 'pride'.

    https://www.queerty.com/content/docs/2009/06/emmerichparty1.jpg

    https://www.queerty.com/los-angeles-a-gays-gather-at-roland-emmerich-bryan-singers-post-pride-party-20090615

    https://twitter.com/FioSargenti/status/456985527120453632/photo/1

    See also: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=29497539

    Here is Bryan Singer with some friends.

    http://i48.tinypic.com/2bpjsl.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/caLJFv5.jpg
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-04/campaign_images/webdr08/18/18/heres-bryan-singer-dressed-as-a-priest-with-three-2-347-1397861831-0_dblbig.jpg

    Oh look, it's Gandalf

    http://i.imgur.com/e2GztSx.jpg

    I’m sure all those boys are of age. It’s not like Singer is known for anything unsavory.

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  181. TWS says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    Yes a true blond is rare as an adult. My brother lasted until he went gray then bald as did my mother and wife but my son was just as blond as my brother as a kid but he went a darker blond until he was in Iraq then he was blond until his second tour when he went gray then bald.

    I have lots of blonds on my mom’s side but few men stay that way.

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  182. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of "Aryan" is not what most people's definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. "Aryan blonde" to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn't matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she's not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    There are also some really beautiful Jewish or half Jewish actresses who are/were quite successful, Natalie Portman, Goldie Hawn, Amanda Peet, Lisa Kudrow, even Rachel Weisz herself is quite successful. I don't think it's an anti-Jew thing, I think it's more a combination of your last name and how "ethnic" you look. Take Russell Wong and Keanu Reeves, both half Asian and good looking, Wong is a better actor but Reeves is much more successful because he has a non-Asian last name and a less Asian look.

    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of “Aryan” is not what most people’s definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. “Aryan blonde” to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn’t matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she’s not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    What are you talking about? My point is precisely that ‘Aryan’ means something close to the Nordic Ideal, the Icy Blonde, the Teutonic Hero.

    My point is that these Aryan types were not that common in Hollywood. And hardly anyone used the term in relation to most Hollywood actors, even tall gentile ones.
    ‘Aryan’-ness has connotations of hardness, grandeur, angularity, and/or iciness.

    Theron could have been a stunning ‘Aryan’ actress, but she opted to play against type in most movies. I think she was in MONSTER. Didn’t see it cuz of the Ewwww factor.

    Diane Keaton was never ‘Aryan’. Too droopy like the cartoon dog. Meg Ryan was too much girl-next-door type. Monroe isn’t Aryan either. Too cartoony, fleshy, accessible, and easy… like Suzanne Somers, Lucille Balle, and Judy Holliday.
    Aryan-ness in woman implies distance, pride, elitism. Hard to Get.
    Greta Garbo had the look. But she laughed in NINOTCHKA.
    Monroe was too much of ditzy whore and easy to fool to be ‘Aryan’. Same with Kate Capshaw, or what I saw of her in TEMPLE OF DOOM. Her style was mostly comic, and I thought she was Jewish for the longest time.

    You mentioned some names who could have been ‘Aryan’ types, but their mode was All-American, which is different from ‘Aryan’. Blonde-Americanism is like Beach Boys. Easy and relaxed, embracing and warm. Farrah Fawcett had warmth in CHARLIE’S ANGELS. And some Jewish girls in school bought her shampoo as I recall, great material for jokes by Jewish guys.

    Also, I never got the sense that ‘Aryan’ types were favored in Hollywood over others. And even tall Anglo or Irish types were not ‘Aryan’. John Wayne was a meat-and-potatoes type of guy. More like a bear than an eagle. He could be angry but never hard.
    But, hardness is what Aryanism is about. A sense of ruthless. Schwarzenegger was ‘Aryan’ in THE TERMINATOR, though he camped it up like a Macho Homo in a gay bar. And Dolph Lunkheadren in ROCKY IV, the Aryan-Russkie, rather ironic since Russkies beat the Nazis. But except for Schwarnegger, these big ‘Aryan’ actors hardly went anywhere in Hollywood. Rutger Hauer had promise, and he was a great Aryan type in BLADE RUNNER. But he was hardly used to much effect in Hollywood… which is too bad since he had looks and talent. (He was really good in the much underrated OSTERMAN WEEKEND.)

    Most tall Anglo types were hardly Aryan. Reagan was all-American. The Gipper. And he was never favored as an actor.
    Clark Gable had that charm. His masculinity, like Errol Flynn’s, was too dashing and dazzling to be ‘Aryan’.
    And Jimmy Stewart an ‘Aryan’. No way.

    Oddly enough, one of the most Aryan-type heroes was Heston as Moses in TEN COMMANDMENTS. He was big and tall and hard and proud and ruthless. He moved in that movie like a statue by Arno Breker.

    Another element that undermined Aryanism was American-style individualism. For Aryanism to come off, there has to be a sense, explicit or implicit, that the grand hero(or villain) is member of some higher order, natural or political.
    But Americanism always favored the individual. So, William Holden usually takes no sides. He cares about numero uno. And Steven McQueen could have been an Aryan type but he’s the all-American who hates authority and does his own thing… like bouncing the baseball in his cell in THE GREAT ESCAPE.
    And even the most memorable American villains tend to be individualist, like Robert Mitchum in NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and CAPE FEAR.
    Half-Jewish Paul Newman could do the ‘Aryan’-type if he wanted, and he did love playing tough guys. But his loner-style was so American.

    To be sure, Americanism is contradictory. It’s like George C. Scott in PATTON has a duality. He denounces individualism as just a lot of crock. He says the men must work as a team. But he is a maverick and staunch individualist who gets in hot water with his superiors all the time. And even as he insists on group-effort and cooperation, he says Americans love winners like fastest runner and toughest boxer, who are individual victors.

    Among American actors, Richard Widmark could have been a great Aryan type, and he did play heavies. But he never quite became the stars like the really big ones.
    Kirk Douglas had ‘Aryan’ qualities, esp in THE VIKINGS, but he was Jewish.
    Jack Palance looked exotic but he was the most frightening thing since the SS in SHANE.

    In more recent times, Darryl Hannah could have been a big ‘Aryan’-like star, but her star faded fast. And Fawcett dropped off the radar soon after leaving TV. Jenny McCarthy? Was she in any movie or just on TV?
    These ‘Aryan’ or potentially-Aryan types do exist in Hollywood, but they are not favored by the industry. And they haven’t been since the beginning.

    And we mustn’t confuse Wasp with Aryan. And even among Wasps, there is the narrow meaning of Wasp as Eastern Establishment, preppy, elitist, snobby, or uptight AND the rest of Anglos who could be more like cowboys and hillbillies. And even though Wisconsin Germans and Scandies in Minnesota could be called ‘wasp’, their style and attitudes were rather at odds with East Coast Anglo style and establishment.

    And given how much Wasps have fallen in pride and prestige, they should just be called Wisps.

    Interestingly enough, the man who ‘Aryanized’ certain all-American actors was Sergio Leone. He turned Henry Fonda, Young Mr. Lincoln, into SS killer of the West. Cold and ruthless.. but magnificent.

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    Oddly enough, one of the most Aryan-type heroes was Heston as Moses in TEN COMMANDMENTS. He was big and tall and hard and proud and ruthless. He moved in that movie like a statue by Arno Breker.
     
    I've noticed that Jewish characters in film nearly always are played by WASP-looking actors (like Ben Cross as Harold Abrahams in "Chariots of Fire" or Warren Beatty as Bugsy Siegel). I imagine because it helps nudge Whites to think "Jews are just like us".

    Jews, on the other hand, never get confused that they're "just like Goys, erm I mean Whites" except when expedient.
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  183. Forbes says:
    @utu
    In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the “he said, she said variety” and between adults.

    In the case of Spacey, the charges are all of the “he said, he said variety” and between adults. All accusers are adults now.

    Then there are questions about the statute of limitation. What were they when the acts were committed and what stops the clock.

    Six years, generally. Six years from the age of majority should the act occur as a minor.

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  184. Forbes says:
    @Anon
    I suspect some of the vehement Jewish (specifically male Jewish support) that Hillary gets is because in her youth, she was the blonde liberal shiksa they all secretly wanted to marry. There's a strong nostalgia factor here. Yes, she's always been bossy and hectoring and lecturing, but that's the typical Jewish woman in spades, and Jewish men are used to it and like it. The men think there's something morally wrong with a woman who's not a nag.

    Speaking of nagging, some would rather not marry their (future) mother-in-law.

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    Speaking of nagging, some would rather not marry their (future) mother-in-law.
     
    If there's one life lesson I learned the hard way, it's this:

    When you start dating a woman, get a good look at her mother, 'cause that's what's she's gonna be someday.
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  185. anonguy says:
    @BB753
    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
    "Aryan" women are overrated. I just don't get this WASP shiksa thing. It's got to be class-related. The way successful Blacks dump their black wives for a blonde the second they make big bucks. For Jews, marrying, dating or raping a shiksa must be their way of saying: we've made it to the top! Trading up is the name of the game.

    (Also, keep on mind that over 80% of adult blondes dye their hair. Adult blondism is a rarity everywhere, except maybe in Finland. BTW, Finnish women in looks fall somewhere between Northern and Eastern European women, so quite good).

    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.

    Slavs are more physically robust than western europeans. I don’t think it is huge, but it is noticeable IMO, and this includes those here in the US for multiple generations.

    Physical vitality usually translates into sexual attractiveness, so Q.E.D.

    As for the more feminine, who knows. Maybe if you are more attracted to a women because of her physical attractiveness, she just seems more feminine to you?

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    I don't know, my experience is that Eastern European women tend to be slender and gracile. Perhaps you're thinking of women of peasant stock in the old days.
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  186. anonguy says:
    @syonredux

    Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we’d think of as light brunette for women.
     
    Depends on the "we." Even medium brown counts as blond in much of the world. E.g., note how Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name was called "Blondie" in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Put Eastwood on a set in Spain with a mostly Italian crew, and he'll start to look blond in comparison to all the other people with dark brown/black hair....

    There was a famous test involving British and French anthropologists many decades ago. They were asked to rate various people on a hair color scale, and the French anthropologists showed a definite tendency to ascribe blondness to people that the Brits rated light brown....

    There was a famous test involving British and French anthropologists many decades ago. They were asked to rate various people on a hair color scale, and the French anthropologists showed a definite tendency to ascribe blondness to people that the Brits rated light brown….

    In Japan, if you have non-brown eyes and any hair color lighter than black, people there start thinking of you as blond.

    Non-white people tend to see the similarities between blond people and what I would call near blonde people quite readily, more holistically whereas white people tend to look at just hair color alone.

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  187. @Return of Shawns
    I've always wondered why rich Gentiles didn't do more when it comes to movie production. If one has money barriers no longer exist.

    Sorry you are wrong on your theory. Even if you made the movie the Jews still control the distribution of the product. In fact, they control all aspects of who get’s to see it, review it and pay for it in their theaters. It’s the same with the music industry although you can sell your stuff independently more than you use to.

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    Money is the answer. Big money could easily create a parallel Hollywood: produce, distribute, etc.
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  188. Karl says:
    @AnotherGuessModel
    A Tale of Love and Darkness is a beautiful novel that, like most good art, is both rooted in and transcends the specific culture its story is set in. The movie adaptation completely lost the latter aspect, making it quite a detached viewing experience for me, and I imagine anyone else who is not Israeli or Jewish. It had other problems too. The positive reviews out of a mixed reception were mostly for effort. Portman was way too ambitious in writing, directing, and starring in this work as her first feature-length film.

    Speaking of Portman, she's been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career. I don't hold her stage name against her. Herschlag is a difficult name for someone in show business, Jewish or not.

    141 anotherguessmodel > Speaking of Portman, she’s been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career

    at least she’s not a former “super model” whose main claim to fame is, having spent a few months being the temporary spare vagina for some Hollywood made-by-plastic-surgery star

    a lot of people forgot to rebuke me for forgetting to remember that a significant fraction of porn is of the “gonzo” genre, where some guy pays the girl to f—- him while he’s holding the camera. If that’s not the crime of soliciting prostitution, I don’t know what is. Maybe it’s “art”

    iSteve can dish it out against Jews, but he cannot handle references to his wife. Well, that’s White Nationalism for you. It’s the Children’s Menu.

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    ... being the temporary spare vagina for ...

    ... a significant fraction of porn is of the “gonzo” genre, where some guy pays the girl to f—- him ...

    iSteve can dish it out against Jews, but he cannot handle references to his wife. Well, that’s White Nationalism for you. It’s the Children’s Menu.

     

    Get lost, creep.
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  189. @Verymuchalive
    Actually, apart from albinos, redheads have fairer skin than blondes. Redheads very rarely dye or bleach their hair, so most keep strong, healthy hair into middle age and beyond. The vast majority of redheads use sensible sunbathing methods, live in cool climates or both. As a result, IMHO they have better complexions than blondes and brunettes.
    But they don't get the same attention that Jews, Arabs and Latins reserve for blondes.
    If you are a man, however, being red-haired is definitely a bit of a drawback. In white societies, "ginger minger" is a term of mockery. It's a wonder, Trump even became President. When was the Last US President before Trump who was red-haired ? Last British PM ? Last French President ? Can't even guess.
    Strangely, this is not the case in some non-white societies. My young friend Ross - Scottish by name, red-haired by nature - was in the Philippines with his girlfriend a few years back. The amount of attention he got from attractive, young Filipinas was immense - they were rubbing up against him, giving him their phone numbers and tugging his pubic hair ! He was told by other foreigners that the locals had a "thing" about redheads.

    (Waves)

    I’m a redhead, though with silver threads among the copper, artfully concealed with a once-a-month dyejob. Heavy wavy hair and pale skin that is prone to burning.

    Someone told me that Latinos like redhair because they think that redhaired woman are passionate. So, there is the spectacle of a brown-skinned women with a burgundy red hair. Perhaps the same is true for Philippinos.

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  190. Amasius says:
    @Flip
    I've always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal

    It’s a pincer attack between feminists and the ghost of American Puritanism.

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  191. njguy73 says:
    @Anon
    Moving the goalposts much? You said “superstar,” not, “someone I’d like to do.” Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    Streep was never a superstar. A big name to be sure, but she insisted on being an ACTOR, an ARTIST, a SERIOUS person.

    A star has a big personality that you can always recognize. And this factor is bigger than talent. Wayne was always Wayne. He was a star. Eastwood is a star. Orson Welles made that distinction. A star is bigger than the role he plays. Welles considered James Dean a star even though he made only 3 movies. There was that Dean mystique.

    Streep is a zilch as persona. She always tried to disappear into her roles, esp with accents that were annoying as hell in the 80s. I hoped lions would devour her in OUT OF AFRICA.

    Most of the names you mentioned were never superstars. I mean if you say Helen Hunt, people will say, 'Oh yeah, she was good in that movie', but there is no Hunt mystique.

    And Hollywood didn't try to turn them into mega-stars, largely because the old studio system has been dead for a long time. In the past, a studio owned an actor or actress and created and built up her persona. It's like what Woltz says of his 'protege' in THE GODFATHER. Today, Hollywood system is looser and more fragmented, and actors have to scramble in everyone-for-himself mode. They are more like free agents. They don't always wind behind their back. Hollywood is not creating people like Norma Desmond anymore, people who were invented but came to believe in their own myths.

    We've still had stars but most of them are shadows of past stars who were really BIG.

    Aha, now I get it.

    There are no blonde superstars. There are no brunette superstars. There are no superstars, period.

    Oscars don’t make a superstar, record-setting box-office grosses don’t make a superstar, top salaries don’t make a superstar. Mystique make superstars, and that mystique doesn’t exist anymore.

    There are only flavors-of -the-month, temporary It Girls, and serviceable actress whom Vanity Fair is trying to make happen.

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    Aha, now I get it.
    There are no blonde superstars. There are no brunette superstars. There are no superstars, period.

    Don't be a dammy. Of course, there are stars and super-stars.

    My point is a movie star is more than talent.

    Now, some stars can have real acting talent. Like Paul Newman and Robert Redford. I wouldn't say the were GREAT actors but they were very good and consistent, even in lesser movies.

    And some serious actors can become real stars. Think of Michael Caine who took on starry roles in IPCRESS FILE. Think of Marlon Brando who really did become a legend. And even though he changed much from role to role, Brando-ness was plain to see.

    In more recent times, there were real stars like Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, Sylvester Stallone, Schwarznegger, Brad Pitt, etc. They were BIGGER than any role they played.

    But this was never the case with Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Helen Hunt. Talented yes, but you went to see their performances. I mean how many people really went to a movie thinking, "Hey, Glenn Close is in it?" But plenty of people went to see a movie just because Julia Roberts was in it.

    Now, take someone like Penelope Ann Miller who was fabulous in CARLITO'S WAY. She could have been a star, and maybe Past Hollywood would have worked on her and made her something. But she just fizzled and mostly ended up on TV. (Maybe casting people are dominated by envious women who favor uglies of the sisterhood. I mean I never got how Catherine Keener and Sandra Oh got those roles. They are dogulas.)

    Now, some actors are so good and appear in so many good or famous movies that they become almost star-like. John Hurt. He didn't have the looks or charisma to be a real star, but he became a familiar face because of his intelligence as actor.

    And there are also actors who are like supporting stars. Samuel Jackson has star quality but he's must better in backup than in the center. A character actor star. Slim Pickens was like that too. Indispensable in some movies, but he would be lost as main character. Also largely true of Warren Oates. Dark Stars?

    Most people you mentioned were not movie stars. They were prominent actresses for awhile with some good roles.

    PS. And then there are shooting stars. Like Milla Jovovich in RESIDENT EVIL. She has star quality to be sure, but in stupid series that is lotsa fun.

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  192. @Arne Pedersen
    Re blondness : Some examples from Norway ( hint : it`s all in the eyebrows..)
    https://imgur.com/zwqbDTO
    https://imgur.com/zTZeXqq
    https://imgur.com/pDIGwwF

    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    Think of Legolas in Lord of the Rings or Daernys in Game of Thrones.

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    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or bleaches her hair.
     
    Or that she is using an eyebrow pencil because otherwise it looks as if she has no eyebrows at all.
    , @syonredux

    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.
     
    It can also be a sign of cosmetically dyed eyebrows. I've known some blonde girls who have darkened their eyebrows. They say that it makes their blue eyes "pop."
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  193. Most specialists believe that when the Aryans reach India they mixed with the existing Dravidian population. Thus most languages in India are Indoeuropean, even though the phenotype of the Indians is different from the Europeans (yet, southern Indians, where the Aryans did not reach, tend to have darker skin than northern Indians)

    The 3 southernmost states in India, Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh, are among the richest states in India, while the northern states of Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh among the poorest. The Northeastern States (between Bangladesh and Myanmar) are the poorest – Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh.

    Also are Afghans and Pakistanis part Aryan since they are in the Northwest? They’re even poorer than Indians.

    I guess all that Aryan blood didn’t do them a whole lot of good, just makes them more violent, not necessarily smarter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_and_territories_ranked_by_poverty

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  194. JA says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Jennifer Aniston has likely made more money in TV and movies in this century than any other actress, with the possible exception of one who owned a piece of a movie that hit big. I think she was being paid $33 million or so per year for the last five years or so of Friends. She hasn't had any huge Jennifer Lawrence sized hits in the movies, but she's worked very steadily in leading roles for a long time.

    What actress made the most money in film & TV overall?

    I’m guessing Lucy.

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  195. F says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do adult men and women differ in blondness?

    If they don't, even the men most famous for blondness, such as Brad Pitt, are often merely light brown in hair color. Although no doubt Pitt was unquestionably blond for some roles, most of the images of Pitt online are what we'd think of as light brunette for women.

    They do, as well as in skin color, both being lighter

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  196. Jack D says:
    @utu
    In the case of Weinstein, the charges are all of the “he said, she said variety” and between adults.

    In the case of Spacey, the charges are all of the “he said, he said variety” and between adults. All accusers are adults now.

    Then there are questions about the statute of limitation. What were they when the acts were committed and what stops the clock.

    If you rape someone the day before they turn the age of consent and you are not accused until the next day, this does not change the nature of the crime. Many states do not have statutes of limitation for rape.

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  197. Svigor says:

    Damn, Rachel Weisz, woke AF. She pretty much hit all the bases in like 40 words.

    Notice how quickly Weisz corrects that misapprehension.

    There may be no concept so misapplied as self-loathing.

    Yeah Weisz pretty much steam-rolled that attempt to open an escape hatch.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    I’ve been hearing this for years, and never had any reason to doubt it.

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.

    I think it’s because first amendment; spillover (forgive, forgive) from Hollywood’s clout.

    Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty.

    Yeah but in a crazy-grandma kinda way. Not a jimmy-rustle kinda way.

    Streisand: watching her next to Redford, even a hetero guy thinks she’s way outclassed.

    Sarah Silverman said something similar, I believe along the lines of: “The Jews who run Hollywood think acting is not a career for good Jewish girls, it’s for those trashy Shiksas.”

    Might be true, but that might be rationalization. It might also be that the Jewish men in Hollywood find shiksas way more attractive and think that Jewish girls don’t have the looks to draw, and want to be polite to Jewish girls about it.

    Both seem reasonable, and there’s no contradiction.

    I’ve always wondered why rich Gentiles didn’t do more when it comes to movie production. If one has money barriers no longer exist.

    Movie production is infamous for parting rich outsiders from their money.

    biz says:
    November 11, 2017 at 4:20 pm GMT • 200 Words

    This is the Jewish pitch to racialist or pro-white audiences, yes. The pitch is quite different to other audiences, in other contexts. Put simply, “is it good for the Jews?” overrides the actual question.

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    Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty.
     
    Yeah but in a crazy-grandma kinda way. Not a jimmy-rustle kinda way.
     
    Jimmy begs to differ:

    http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/carol-kane-muppet-3.jpg

    http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/carol-kane-when-stranger-19

    http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/carol-kane-when-stranger-20
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  198. Jack D says:
    @Anon
    I suspect some of the vehement Jewish (specifically male Jewish support) that Hillary gets is because in her youth, she was the blonde liberal shiksa they all secretly wanted to marry. There's a strong nostalgia factor here. Yes, she's always been bossy and hectoring and lecturing, but that's the typical Jewish woman in spades, and Jewish men are used to it and like it. The men think there's something morally wrong with a woman who's not a nag.

    As a Jewish male I can confirm this. In my youth, I had a centerfold of Hillary in a pantsuit and I used it as visual stimulation when relieving my Onanistic urges – after all she was a blonde shiksa and that’s all that counts.

    Are you nuts? Hillary even in the brief bloom of her youth was no sex object. I really don’t understand how there was ever any sexual chemistry between Bill and her or between her and anyone for that matter. Certainly by the time she became known on the national scene she was matronly and no ones fantasy date.

    PS Jewish males don’t want to marry blonde shiksas they just want to humiliate them. They don’t even want to shtup them anymore, just wank off in their presence. Please get your anti-Semitic memes right.

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    I figure you will give an honest answer here - is "shiksa" even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies? I think of all the various ethnic slurs that were once commonplace but that I have never actually heard used in earnest, that seemed to genuinely die out a few decades ago. Is shiksa like that, or do people actually still use it?
    , @James Kabala
    I don't know if the part-Mexican/part-Irish/raised Catholic/redheaded (presumably from the Irish part) CK counts as Jewish in any meaningful sense anyway. Certainly the joke in another thread that he learned this behavior at [Jewish] summer camp is based on mistaken premises. (There is the weird twist that his father became an Orthodox Jew after he divorced his mother, but he was nominally Catholic before that despite being ethnically part-Jewish.)
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  199. @CAL2
    Weisz has had a solid career. It's been nothing to sneeze at and she hitting the age where actresses either get older lady roles or drop out of acting.

    IMDB shows her still married to Craig.

    Weisz had her son with a Jew and then divorced him when she was no longer fertile to marry Craig.

    By the way, I can’t imagine why Wikipedia is such a good source for this kind of Jewish porn.

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  200. Svigor says:

    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren’t white. Non-racialist whites have no interest in whiteness, so racialist whites will increasingly dominate the definition. And it is through the latters’ lens that Jews are least white (as much in the minds of Jews as in the minds of Whites). Of course it all depends on how successful white racialism is; if it takes over white consciousness then obviously Jews will tack hard white.

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    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren’t white
     
    That's what lots of Jews are pushing for. They see it as a way to completely block criticism (Holocaust + POC). The big problem, though, is that POC will not accept them as non-White.
    , @Pericles

    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren’t white.

     

    I think it will, as usual, depend on the situation ("is it good for?").
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  201. Amasius says:
    @njguy73

    Again, you’re missing the point. By ‘blonde’, we don’t mean someone with blonde hair.
     
    Moving the goalposts much? You said "superstar," not, "someone I'd like to do." Lots of guys would do the actresses you dismiss, and not just thirsty guys.

    My point, and one that Sailer himself brought up when reviewing Chicago back in 2002, when Weinstein was at his Oscar-snagging peak, is this:

    Blonde woman don't need to have classic features to be considered as attractive as non-blondes. Zellweger and Zeta-Jones were marketed as equally hot.

    I'll put it in manosphere terms: to be considered Hollywood-worthy:
    - blondes need to be HB6
    - brunettes need to be HB8
    - redheads need to have jugs like Christina Hendricks, or acting chops like Julianne Moore

    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.

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    It's not me who's too hard on redheads, it's the Hollywood Sex Symbol Manufacturing Machine. And if you ask our fellow poster "Anon," he'd pick out reasons why Jessica Chastain and Amy Adams aren't that hot, and that they can't hold a candle to Veronica Lake or Rita Hayworth.

    I'm just looking at it from the POV of the people who decide who gets major film parts and who gets magazine covers. I'll put it in video game terms.

    Blonde = low difficulty setting
    Brunette = low-medium difficulty setting
    Redhead = medium difficulty setting
    African-American = high difficulty setting
    , @Mr. Anon
    Bryce Dallas Howard is indeed a knock0ut. Amy Adams too, for my money. Did you see her in American Hustle? She was something else.
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  202. @Wilkey
    Which allegations against Spacey are more serious? There's one report of him drunkenly hitting on a 14y.o. Anthony Rapp when Spacey was 26. All the other reports appear to be of him hitting on men of age, if on the young side.

    The allegations against the two men are quite different. The ones against Spacey do seem weirder in ways. Him fondling young men in public, including (allegedly) the 18 y.o. son of Richard Dreyfuss *while his dad was in the room.* Spacey is not an especially big man, so disparate strength was not a huge issue, especially when all his targets were men.

    The allegations against Weinstein feature a very large man harassing young women, in the privacy of his hotel room while he was in the position of making hiring decisions which could make or break careers.

    If you think the two cases are remotely similar then all I can say is seek professional help, because I doubt anyone here can help you.

    This is inaccurate. Another man has claimed he actually had a relationship with Spacey at age fourteen. http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html Is this true? I don’t know. But it is certainly a very serious accusation.

    If Jon Stewart was worth a post for (probably falsely) claiming he never hard about Louis CK’s behavior, but not for anything (as far as we know) that he actually did himself, than I would think Spacey would be worthy of a post.

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    Never heard about! Not the most desirable typo in this context.
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  203. Clyde says:
    @Mr. Anon
    You think Susan Sontag was pretty, but Barbara Streisand wasn't?

    Okay, vive la differance, and all.

    I've never understood this rap on "jewish-looking" women that they are ugly. It's an ethnic group. There tends to be a look that goes with it, and there's a distribution. Some are pretty, some are not. Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty. Bella Abzug............, not so much. Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.

    Streisand was quite cute when she was young, and her looks held up pretty well compared to a lot of actresses.

    And slightly cross eyed which for some weird reason I have been imprinted to like and be fascinated by in women.

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  204. @Jack D
    As a Jewish male I can confirm this. In my youth, I had a centerfold of Hillary in a pantsuit and I used it as visual stimulation when relieving my Onanistic urges - after all she was a blonde shiksa and that's all that counts.

    Are you nuts? Hillary even in the brief bloom of her youth was no sex object. I really don't understand how there was ever any sexual chemistry between Bill and her or between her and anyone for that matter. Certainly by the time she became known on the national scene she was matronly and no ones fantasy date.

    PS Jewish males don't want to marry blonde shiksas they just want to humiliate them. They don't even want to shtup them anymore, just wank off in their presence. Please get your anti-Semitic memes right.

    I figure you will give an honest answer here – is “shiksa” even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies? I think of all the various ethnic slurs that were once commonplace but that I have never actually heard used in earnest, that seemed to genuinely die out a few decades ago. Is shiksa like that, or do people actually still use it?

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    is “shiksa” even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies?
     
    We 45-and-under Jews don't. Hell, with intermarriage going the way it's going, pretty soon the vast majority of non-Orthodox American Jews will be of mixed heritage.
    , @Jack D
    I grew up in a Yiddish speaking household, but I'm not sure my kids even know what "shiksa" means or if they do it's because they read Philip Roth.
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  205. Clyde says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Lena Dunham would have been a better example than Amy Schumer.

    "It’s news to me that Jewish bosses tried to prevent Jews from being actors."
     
    Rachael's assertion was, "Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate." So your examples being almost all men tends to confirm the Weisz Thesis.

    Also, you should get a Commenting Handle. I would highlight it as a preferred commenter. Even if I don't agree with everything you write, your comments are original and provocative.

    He already has an Unz name. Priss factor or factory but sometimes likes to post as anon. Of course others post as anon too, but I can tell the Priss anon right away.

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  206. @James Kabala
    This is inaccurate. Another man has claimed he actually had a relationship with Spacey at age fourteen. http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html Is this true? I don't know. But it is certainly a very serious accusation.

    If Jon Stewart was worth a post for (probably falsely) claiming he never hard about Louis CK's behavior, but not for anything (as far as we know) that he actually did himself, than I would think Spacey would be worthy of a post.

    Never heard about! Not the most desirable typo in this context.

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  207. Svigor says:

    Still no post on Spacey after like, what, 15 Jew baiting posts in the last week. Despite the fact that Spacey’s allegations are much more serious.

    Fix the lachrymose history of the Jews, in which only the Jewish side of the story is told, and get back to us. You’ve got a whole culture to fix.

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  208. BB753 says:
    @Pericles
    Pedophilia, eh? Here's a party at Roland Emmerich's house (a few years old). It apparently had to do with 'pride'.

    https://www.queerty.com/content/docs/2009/06/emmerichparty1.jpg

    https://www.queerty.com/los-angeles-a-gays-gather-at-roland-emmerich-bryan-singers-post-pride-party-20090615

    https://twitter.com/FioSargenti/status/456985527120453632/photo/1

    See also: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=29497539

    Here is Bryan Singer with some friends.

    http://i48.tinypic.com/2bpjsl.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/caLJFv5.jpg
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-04/campaign_images/webdr08/18/18/heres-bryan-singer-dressed-as-a-priest-with-three-2-347-1397861831-0_dblbig.jpg

    Oh look, it's Gandalf

    http://i.imgur.com/e2GztSx.jpg

    Pretty damning! How much longer will Bryan Singer get away with it? Jailbait eventually lands you in jail.

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  209. BB753 says:
    @anonguy

    Sorry, Eastern European blondes are far better looking and more feminine than Northern European blondes.
     
    Slavs are more physically robust than western europeans. I don't think it is huge, but it is noticeable IMO, and this includes those here in the US for multiple generations.

    Physical vitality usually translates into sexual attractiveness, so Q.E.D.

    As for the more feminine, who knows. Maybe if you are more attracted to a women because of her physical attractiveness, she just seems more feminine to you?

    I don’t know, my experience is that Eastern European women tend to be slender and gracile. Perhaps you’re thinking of women of peasant stock in the old days.

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  210. Svigor says:

    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.

    Don’t forget Julianne Moore. Redheads are boom or bust. Usually not that great, but once in a while you get one that blows everything else away. I suspect the look doesn’t translate well to the silver screen. Also, most people seem to hate freckles, for whatever reason. Heavily freckled people can be too much, but otherwise I’m a fan.

    One thing I’ve noticed about Nordic women, they make robust skull/jaw work in a way that others can’t or don’t. Nordics have a strong tendency toward “facial pinching”; it’s either a normal-sized face on a large skull, or a small face on a normal skull.

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    Don't 'spose any of you young 'uns have ever heard of Ann-Margret?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0NYJhZ6iAJo/UbUFu6Gaw0I/AAAAAAAAMUo/NNV7kvRbA5k/s1600/Ann-Margret+Goddess+030.jpg
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  211. @Jack D
    As a Jewish male I can confirm this. In my youth, I had a centerfold of Hillary in a pantsuit and I used it as visual stimulation when relieving my Onanistic urges - after all she was a blonde shiksa and that's all that counts.

    Are you nuts? Hillary even in the brief bloom of her youth was no sex object. I really don't understand how there was ever any sexual chemistry between Bill and her or between her and anyone for that matter. Certainly by the time she became known on the national scene she was matronly and no ones fantasy date.

    PS Jewish males don't want to marry blonde shiksas they just want to humiliate them. They don't even want to shtup them anymore, just wank off in their presence. Please get your anti-Semitic memes right.

    I don’t know if the part-Mexican/part-Irish/raised Catholic/redheaded (presumably from the Irish part) CK counts as Jewish in any meaningful sense anyway. Certainly the joke in another thread that he learned this behavior at [Jewish] summer camp is based on mistaken premises. (There is the weird twist that his father became an Orthodox Jew after he divorced his mother, but he was nominally Catholic before that despite being ethnically part-Jewish.)

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  212. Svigor says:

    I’ve got a fairly cast-iron “stomach,” intellectually speaking. You can run a very wide spectrum of ideas by me, and I’m not going to react emotionally, wig out, etc. And I don’t like throwing around words like “evil.” I’m a strong believer in the idea that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. That everyone sees himself as the hero of his own story, and could probably make a decent case, if he was articulate enough. But that pedophile rapist murderer torturer guy in Germany…I literally had to stop reading the article about what that guy did. It was making me sick to my stomach. That never happens to me just from reading something (pictures are a whole other story). That guy is evil, plain and simple. The Belgian guy sounds like him.

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    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    Think of Legolas in Lord of the Rings or Daernys in Game of Thrones.

    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or bleaches her hair.

    Or that she is using an eyebrow pencil because otherwise it looks as if she has no eyebrows at all.

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  214. @niteranger
    Sorry you are wrong on your theory. Even if you made the movie the Jews still control the distribution of the product. In fact, they control all aspects of who get's to see it, review it and pay for it in their theaters. It's the same with the music industry although you can sell your stuff independently more than you use to.

    Money is the answer. Big money could easily create a parallel Hollywood: produce, distribute, etc.

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  215. njguy73 says:
    @Amasius
    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.

    It’s not me who’s too hard on redheads, it’s the Hollywood Sex Symbol Manufacturing Machine. And if you ask our fellow poster “Anon,” he’d pick out reasons why Jessica Chastain and Amy Adams aren’t that hot, and that they can’t hold a candle to Veronica Lake or Rita Hayworth.

    I’m just looking at it from the POV of the people who decide who gets major film parts and who gets magazine covers. I’ll put it in video game terms.

    Blonde = low difficulty setting
    Brunette = low-medium difficulty setting
    Redhead = medium difficulty setting
    African-American = high difficulty setting

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  216. njguy73 says:
    @James Kabala
    I figure you will give an honest answer here - is "shiksa" even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies? I think of all the various ethnic slurs that were once commonplace but that I have never actually heard used in earnest, that seemed to genuinely die out a few decades ago. Is shiksa like that, or do people actually still use it?

    is “shiksa” even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies?

    We 45-and-under Jews don’t. Hell, with intermarriage going the way it’s going, pretty soon the vast majority of non-Orthodox American Jews will be of mixed heritage.

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  217. njguy73 says:
    @Forbes
    Speaking of nagging, some would rather not marry their (future) mother-in-law.

    Speaking of nagging, some would rather not marry their (future) mother-in-law.

    If there’s one life lesson I learned the hard way, it’s this:

    When you start dating a woman, get a good look at her mother, ’cause that’s what’s she’s gonna be someday.

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    Exactly. And I've lived long enough to see it play out...
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  218. Lagertha says:

    All this stuff is garbage. Don’t lower your standards.

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  219. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @njguy73
    Aha, now I get it.

    There are no blonde superstars. There are no brunette superstars. There are no superstars, period.

    Oscars don't make a superstar, record-setting box-office grosses don't make a superstar, top salaries don't make a superstar. Mystique make superstars, and that mystique doesn't exist anymore.

    There are only flavors-of -the-month, temporary It Girls, and serviceable actress whom Vanity Fair is trying to make happen.

    Aha, now I get it.
    There are no blonde superstars. There are no brunette superstars. There are no superstars, period.

    Don’t be a dammy. Of course, there are stars and super-stars.

    My point is a movie star is more than talent.

    Now, some stars can have real acting talent. Like Paul Newman and Robert Redford. I wouldn’t say the were GREAT actors but they were very good and consistent, even in lesser movies.

    And some serious actors can become real stars. Think of Michael Caine who took on starry roles in IPCRESS FILE. Think of Marlon Brando who really did become a legend. And even though he changed much from role to role, Brando-ness was plain to see.

    In more recent times, there were real stars like Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, Sylvester Stallone, Schwarznegger, Brad Pitt, etc. They were BIGGER than any role they played.

    But this was never the case with Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Helen Hunt. Talented yes, but you went to see their performances. I mean how many people really went to a movie thinking, “Hey, Glenn Close is in it?” But plenty of people went to see a movie just because Julia Roberts was in it.

    Now, take someone like Penelope Ann Miller who was fabulous in CARLITO’S WAY. She could have been a star, and maybe Past Hollywood would have worked on her and made her something. But she just fizzled and mostly ended up on TV. (Maybe casting people are dominated by envious women who favor uglies of the sisterhood. I mean I never got how Catherine Keener and Sandra Oh got those roles. They are dogulas.)

    Now, some actors are so good and appear in so many good or famous movies that they become almost star-like. John Hurt. He didn’t have the looks or charisma to be a real star, but he became a familiar face because of his intelligence as actor.

    And there are also actors who are like supporting stars. Samuel Jackson has star quality but he’s must better in backup than in the center. A character actor star. Slim Pickens was like that too. Indispensable in some movies, but he would be lost as main character. Also largely true of Warren Oates. Dark Stars?

    Most people you mentioned were not movie stars. They were prominent actresses for awhile with some good roles.

    PS. And then there are shooting stars. Like Milla Jovovich in RESIDENT EVIL. She has star quality to be sure, but in stupid series that is lotsa fun.

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  220. syonredux says:
    @Forbes
    My curiosity is how Mom & Dad Horowitz decided to name their daughter Winona.

    My curiosity is how Mom & Dad Horowitz decided to name their daughter Winona.

    After her birthplace:

    Ryder was born Winona Laura Horowitz[7] in a farmhouse near Winona, Minnesota,[1][8] the daughter of Cynthia Palmer (née Istas)[1] and Michael Horowitz.[9] Her mother is an author, video producer, and editor.[10] Her father is an author, editor, publisher, and antiquarian bookseller.[10][11][12] He also worked as an archivist for psychedelic guru Dr. Timothy Leary (who was Ryder’s godfather).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder

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  221. syonredux says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    Think of Legolas in Lord of the Rings or Daernys in Game of Thrones.

    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    It can also be a sign of cosmetically dyed eyebrows. I’ve known some blonde girls who have darkened their eyebrows. They say that it makes their blue eyes “pop.”

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  222. syonredux says:
    @Svigor
    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren't white. Non-racialist whites have no interest in whiteness, so racialist whites will increasingly dominate the definition. And it is through the latters' lens that Jews are least white (as much in the minds of Jews as in the minds of Whites). Of course it all depends on how successful white racialism is; if it takes over white consciousness then obviously Jews will tack hard white.

    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren’t white

    That’s what lots of Jews are pushing for. They see it as a way to completely block criticism (Holocaust + POC). The big problem, though, is that POC will not accept them as non-White.

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  223. cthulhu says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Bedazzled was one of the great comedies of all time.

    Peter Cook and Dudley Moore were one of the great comic duos of all time as well. And the “Beyond the Fringe” group before that…fantastic.

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  224. Svigor says:

    Blond hair and dark eyebrows are a sign that the person is either wearing a wig or dyed his/her hair.

    A not especially reliable sign. Hair color, eyebrow color, facial hair color, and body hair color all seem to correlate at less than 1. Most people with light hair seem to have eyebrows that are darker. Facial hair, too.

    They see it as a way to completely block criticism (Holocaust + POC).

    You gotta admire how often 99% just isn’t enough for Jews.

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  225. Jack D says:
    @James Kabala
    I figure you will give an honest answer here - is "shiksa" even a word that modern-day Jews actually use, or do they use it only in anti-Semitic fantasies? I think of all the various ethnic slurs that were once commonplace but that I have never actually heard used in earnest, that seemed to genuinely die out a few decades ago. Is shiksa like that, or do people actually still use it?

    I grew up in a Yiddish speaking household, but I’m not sure my kids even know what “shiksa” means or if they do it’s because they read Philip Roth.

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    If you rape someone the day before they turn the age of consent and you are not accused until the next day, this does not change the nature of the crime. Many states do not have statutes of limitation for rape.
     
    Given that accusations generally turn on physical evidence, it's hard to see how a rape charge could be sustained many years after the fact, unless the alleged perp confesses.
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  226. @Steve Sailer
    “Migratory skew”

    That phrase could be helpful.

    Mmm… A nice, hot bowl of migratory skew sounds delicious.

    I see it on the menu now.

    Thank you for pointing it out to me.

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  227. @Jack D
    I grew up in a Yiddish speaking household, but I'm not sure my kids even know what "shiksa" means or if they do it's because they read Philip Roth.

    If you rape someone the day before they turn the age of consent and you are not accused until the next day, this does not change the nature of the crime. Many states do not have statutes of limitation for rape.

    Given that accusations generally turn on physical evidence, it’s hard to see how a rape charge could be sustained many years after the fact, unless the alleged perp confesses.

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  228. Moses says:
    @Anonymous

    Another thing. Women of most communities knew their place. If they didn’t have the looks or charms, they didn’t dare to put themselves forth as Star Material. They gave up their ambitions.

    But Jews had chutzpah. So, even those without looks put themselves forth as star material, and Barbra Streisand was a classic case. A good singer but no looker. But she was gonna make herself a star and even sex symbol. If looks couldn’t do it, it was comedy and antics. It worked in FUNNY GIRL.
     
    Same goes for Jewish men. Woody Allen is a prime example. Hollywood would never cast him as a male star and sex symbol, so he cast himself as one in his movies, albeit a neurotic one, and gets gorgeous shiksas like Diane Keaton to fall all over him. Albert Brooks doesn't have his chutzpah, so he plays one who loses out to goys like William Hurt in Broadcast News.

    You all do realize that “shiksa” means “whore,” don’t you?

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    Another translation of "shiksa" is "abomination." It's a strongly negative, other-izing pejorative. Similar to "nasty corrupting slut" in English. Would you call someone a "nasty corrupting slut"?

    From the blog "Crazy Jewish Convert": http://crazyjewishconvert.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-you-should-never-call-someone-or.html


    Why You Should Never Call Someone (or Yourself) a Shiksa

    Shiksa is a Yiddish word that means "non-Jewish female." It's especially used for an attractive woman who could be a "temptation" to Jewish men.

    The people who use this word in conversation very rarely know its real meaning: abomination. And the people who know the meaning and use it for that meaning probably aren't the people you want to spend much time with. The two other translations I've found for shiksa are "impure" and "object of loathing." It is not only pejorative, it is intended to be offensive and cruel. It's even used in Israel like Americans would use curse words to refer to women.

    So...don't say it.
     

    What does it say about Jewish feelings toward non-Jews that they call gentile women "shiksas" (i.e. "nasty corrupting sluts") openly on national television (e.g. Seinfeld)?
    , @Jack D
    No it doesn't. It is derived from the Hebrew word sheketz which means "not kosher" or "that which you should not eat". A nice Jewish boy should definitely not be eating shiksas, Harvey. See for example Leviticus 11 which lists all the non-kosher animals:

    10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as sheketz.
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  229. Moses says:
    @Anon
    Aryan=Indian? I think your definition of “Aryan” is not what most people’s definition of Aryan is, which is more along the line of Statuesque. “Aryan blonde” to most people just mean Statuesque Blonde (whether real blonde doesn’t matter), like Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman, Scarlett Johansson, Katherine Heigl, Meg Ryan, Farrah Fawcett, Marilyn Monroe, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Rachel MacAdams, Amy Adams, Lindsay Lohan, Alison Doody(in Indiana Jones The Last Crusade), Kate Capshaw, Jenny McCarthy, Daryl Hannah, Ann Margret. The most Aryan looking(statuesque) actress in Hollywood is probably Sigourney Weaver, but she’s not blonde (except in Galaxy Quest).

    What are you talking about? My point is precisely that 'Aryan' means something close to the Nordic Ideal, the Icy Blonde, the Teutonic Hero.

    My point is that these Aryan types were not that common in Hollywood. And hardly anyone used the term in relation to most Hollywood actors, even tall gentile ones.
    'Aryan'-ness has connotations of hardness, grandeur, angularity, and/or iciness.

    Theron could have been a stunning 'Aryan' actress, but she opted to play against type in most movies. I think she was in MONSTER. Didn't see it cuz of the Ewwww factor.

    Diane Keaton was never 'Aryan'. Too droopy like the cartoon dog. Meg Ryan was too much girl-next-door type. Monroe isn't Aryan either. Too cartoony, fleshy, accessible, and easy... like Suzanne Somers, Lucille Balle, and Judy Holliday.
    Aryan-ness in woman implies distance, pride, elitism. Hard to Get.
    Greta Garbo had the look. But she laughed in NINOTCHKA.
    Monroe was too much of ditzy whore and easy to fool to be 'Aryan'. Same with Kate Capshaw, or what I saw of her in TEMPLE OF DOOM. Her style was mostly comic, and I thought she was Jewish for the longest time.

    You mentioned some names who could have been 'Aryan' types, but their mode was All-American, which is different from 'Aryan'. Blonde-Americanism is like Beach Boys. Easy and relaxed, embracing and warm. Farrah Fawcett had warmth in CHARLIE'S ANGELS. And some Jewish girls in school bought her shampoo as I recall, great material for jokes by Jewish guys.

    Also, I never got the sense that 'Aryan' types were favored in Hollywood over others. And even tall Anglo or Irish types were not 'Aryan'. John Wayne was a meat-and-potatoes type of guy. More like a bear than an eagle. He could be angry but never hard.
    But, hardness is what Aryanism is about. A sense of ruthless. Schwarzenegger was 'Aryan' in THE TERMINATOR, though he camped it up like a Macho Homo in a gay bar. And Dolph Lunkheadren in ROCKY IV, the Aryan-Russkie, rather ironic since Russkies beat the Nazis. But except for Schwarnegger, these big 'Aryan' actors hardly went anywhere in Hollywood. Rutger Hauer had promise, and he was a great Aryan type in BLADE RUNNER. But he was hardly used to much effect in Hollywood... which is too bad since he had looks and talent. (He was really good in the much underrated OSTERMAN WEEKEND.)

    Most tall Anglo types were hardly Aryan. Reagan was all-American. The Gipper. And he was never favored as an actor.
    Clark Gable had that charm. His masculinity, like Errol Flynn's, was too dashing and dazzling to be 'Aryan'.
    And Jimmy Stewart an 'Aryan'. No way.

    Oddly enough, one of the most Aryan-type heroes was Heston as Moses in TEN COMMANDMENTS. He was big and tall and hard and proud and ruthless. He moved in that movie like a statue by Arno Breker.

    Another element that undermined Aryanism was American-style individualism. For Aryanism to come off, there has to be a sense, explicit or implicit, that the grand hero(or villain) is member of some higher order, natural or political.
    But Americanism always favored the individual. So, William Holden usually takes no sides. He cares about numero uno. And Steven McQueen could have been an Aryan type but he's the all-American who hates authority and does his own thing... like bouncing the baseball in his cell in THE GREAT ESCAPE.
    And even the most memorable American villains tend to be individualist, like Robert Mitchum in NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and CAPE FEAR.
    Half-Jewish Paul Newman could do the 'Aryan'-type if he wanted, and he did love playing tough guys. But his loner-style was so American.

    To be sure, Americanism is contradictory. It's like George C. Scott in PATTON has a duality. He denounces individualism as just a lot of crock. He says the men must work as a team. But he is a maverick and staunch individualist who gets in hot water with his superiors all the time. And even as he insists on group-effort and cooperation, he says Americans love winners like fastest runner and toughest boxer, who are individual victors.

    Among American actors, Richard Widmark could have been a great Aryan type, and he did play heavies. But he never quite became the stars like the really big ones.
    Kirk Douglas had 'Aryan' qualities, esp in THE VIKINGS, but he was Jewish.
    Jack Palance looked exotic but he was the most frightening thing since the SS in SHANE.

    In more recent times, Darryl Hannah could have been a big 'Aryan'-like star, but her star faded fast. And Fawcett dropped off the radar soon after leaving TV. Jenny McCarthy? Was she in any movie or just on TV?
    These 'Aryan' or potentially-Aryan types do exist in Hollywood, but they are not favored by the industry. And they haven't been since the beginning.

    And we mustn't confuse Wasp with Aryan. And even among Wasps, there is the narrow meaning of Wasp as Eastern Establishment, preppy, elitist, snobby, or uptight AND the rest of Anglos who could be more like cowboys and hillbillies. And even though Wisconsin Germans and Scandies in Minnesota could be called 'wasp', their style and attitudes were rather at odds with East Coast Anglo style and establishment.

    And given how much Wasps have fallen in pride and prestige, they should just be called Wisps.

    Interestingly enough, the man who 'Aryanized' certain all-American actors was Sergio Leone. He turned Henry Fonda, Young Mr. Lincoln, into SS killer of the West. Cold and ruthless.. but magnificent.

    Oddly enough, one of the most Aryan-type heroes was Heston as Moses in TEN COMMANDMENTS. He was big and tall and hard and proud and ruthless. He moved in that movie like a statue by Arno Breker.

    I’ve noticed that Jewish characters in film nearly always are played by WASP-looking actors (like Ben Cross as Harold Abrahams in “Chariots of Fire” or Warren Beatty as Bugsy Siegel). I imagine because it helps nudge Whites to think “Jews are just like us”.

    Jews, on the other hand, never get confused that they’re “just like Goys, erm I mean Whites” except when expedient.

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  230. Moses says:
    @Moses
    You all do realize that "shiksa" means "whore," don't you?

    Another translation of “shiksa” is “abomination.” It’s a strongly negative, other-izing pejorative. Similar to “nasty corrupting slut” in English. Would you call someone a “nasty corrupting slut”?

    From the blog “Crazy Jewish Convert”: http://crazyjewishconvert.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-you-should-never-call-someone-or.html

    Why You Should Never Call Someone (or Yourself) a Shiksa

    Shiksa is a Yiddish word that means “non-Jewish female.” It’s especially used for an attractive woman who could be a “temptation” to Jewish men.

    The people who use this word in conversation very rarely know its real meaning: abomination. And the people who know the meaning and use it for that meaning probably aren’t the people you want to spend much time with. The two other translations I’ve found for shiksa are “impure” and “object of loathing.” It is not only pejorative, it is intended to be offensive and cruel. It’s even used in Israel like Americans would use curse words to refer to women.

    So…don’t say it.

    What does it say about Jewish feelings toward non-Jews that they call gentile women “shiksas” (i.e. “nasty corrupting sluts”) openly on national television (e.g. Seinfeld)?

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  231. black sea says:
    @BB753
    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I'm aware of.

    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I’m aware of.

    America is famously inclined to discount the immutable realities of human nature. Hence our world-wide reputation for hypocrisy.

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    Sweden chose the logic trap of outlawing buying sex but not selling sex. Presumably because women are wonderful and men are not. In other news, the law is a pretzel.
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  232. black sea says:
    @Forbes
    All the more shocking given Anniston's man-jaw and apparent inability to act.

    All the more shocking given Anniston’s man-jaw and apparent inability to act.

    I don’t know about the man-jaw.

    Jennifer Anniston, at least in her younger days, was both extremely pretty and cute. I hope that doesn’t sound redundant.

    Women who are pretty, maybe even beautiful, are alluring, but also off-putting. It’s like the prospect of climbing Everest in a snowstorm. Women who are cute are like a pleasant hike in the hills. Very few women can come across as both.

    Also, Anniston was gracious enough to take on a key role in low-budget film by a little-known director, about the year 2000 switch, for which we should all be grateful.

    When Brad Pitt opted for Angelina Jolie over Jennifer Anniston, he choose insanity over stability, a terrible marital move.

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    I work in a high school in the Upper Midwest. I will tell you that many, many girls there look better than your typical Hollywood starlet.
    , @MaMu1977
    Brad chose Angelina over Jen for procreative reasons. He's passed on his name and has two biological daughters who will turn heads for years to come (barring obscene amounts of drug use or physical accidents). Mrs. Theroux, however, was/is a genetic dead end. If it wasn't Ms. Jolie, it would have been a waitress at a diner or an intern or a (hopefully, not too obsessive) fan.
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  233. Mr. Anon says:
    @Svigor
    Damn, Rachel Weisz, woke AF. She pretty much hit all the bases in like 40 words.

    Notice how quickly Weisz corrects that misapprehension.

    There may be no concept so misapplied as self-loathing.
     
    Yeah Weisz pretty much steam-rolled that attempt to open an escape hatch.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?
     
    I've been hearing this for years, and never had any reason to doubt it.

    I’ve always wondered why prostitution is illegal but acting in a porno movie is legal. In both cases, people are being paid to have sex.
     
    I think it's because first amendment; spillover (forgive, forgive) from Hollywood's clout.

    Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty.
     
    Yeah but in a crazy-grandma kinda way. Not a jimmy-rustle kinda way.

    Streisand: watching her next to Redford, even a hetero guy thinks she's way outclassed.

    Sarah Silverman said something similar, I believe along the lines of: “The Jews who run Hollywood think acting is not a career for good Jewish girls, it’s for those trashy Shiksas.”

    Might be true, but that might be rationalization. It might also be that the Jewish men in Hollywood find shiksas way more attractive and think that Jewish girls don’t have the looks to draw, and want to be polite to Jewish girls about it.
     
    Both seem reasonable, and there's no contradiction.

    I’ve always wondered why rich Gentiles didn’t do more when it comes to movie production. If one has money barriers no longer exist.
     
    Movie production is infamous for parting rich outsiders from their money.

    biz says:
    November 11, 2017 at 4:20 pm GMT • 200 Words
    @Jonathan Mason
     
    This is the Jewish pitch to racialist or pro-white audiences, yes. The pitch is quite different to other audiences, in other contexts. Put simply, "is it good for the Jews?" overrides the actual question.

    Carol Kane was (is) quite pretty.

    Yeah but in a crazy-grandma kinda way. Not a jimmy-rustle kinda way.

    Jimmy begs to differ:

    http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/carol-kane-when-stranger-19

    http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/carol-kane-when-stranger-20

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  234. black sea says:
    @LondonBob
    I admit I don't particularly know what I am talking about. You don't get to where she did by being idiot, but she clearly had deep seated issues others exploited.

    I admit I don’t particularly know what I am talking about.

    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here. At least you had the honesty to admit it.

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    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here.
     
    Especially yours.
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  235. Mr. Anon says:
    @Amasius
    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.

    Bryce Dallas Howard is indeed a knock0ut. Amy Adams too, for my money. Did you see her in American Hustle? She was something else.

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  236. Mr. Anon says:
    @black sea

    I admit I don’t particularly know what I am talking about.
     
    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here. At least you had the honesty to admit it.

    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here.

    Especially yours.

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    Ohh, the burn!
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  237. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Even after many years of hearing about it, I always find this whole Jewish looks vs shiksappeal stuff, and the depth of feeling it can evoke, kind of strange. I guess mostly because coming from the northern reaches of Southern Europe, none of these people would be thought of here as visibly belonging to different ethnic groups. Obviously, I was always aware that Northern Europeans and the Jewish populations living among them on average look different from each other. But I was very surprised to learn how big of a deal this is.

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    A much bigger deal on this board (especially after the frenzy of the last few weeks) than in real life. Really, in Golden Age Hollywood Jewish actors blended in and played non-ethnically-marked roles more than Italians or other Eastern/Southern Europeans ever did.
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  238. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Sofia Vergara is from Colombia. Our host Steve S. has observed on the Mexican tv and movie industries fixation on blondes. I don't know about South America.

    fixation on blonde

    That’s an exaggeration. Most Latin American stars are (light-skinned) brunettes. Think Sean Penn’s pal Kate del Castillo. Of course, there are just very few blondes in the region to begin with. But I have noticed quite a few of the blonde actresses get typecast as villains.

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  239. @Pericles
    Pedophilia, eh? Here's a party at Roland Emmerich's house (a few years old). It apparently had to do with 'pride'.

    https://www.queerty.com/content/docs/2009/06/emmerichparty1.jpg

    https://www.queerty.com/los-angeles-a-gays-gather-at-roland-emmerich-bryan-singers-post-pride-party-20090615

    https://twitter.com/FioSargenti/status/456985527120453632/photo/1

    See also: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=29497539

    Here is Bryan Singer with some friends.

    http://i48.tinypic.com/2bpjsl.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/caLJFv5.jpg
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-04/campaign_images/webdr08/18/18/heres-bryan-singer-dressed-as-a-priest-with-three-2-347-1397861831-0_dblbig.jpg

    Oh look, it's Gandalf

    http://i.imgur.com/e2GztSx.jpg

    Those pictures are absolutely creepy and disgusting.

    Singer looks like a total deviant.

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  240. @Almost Missouri
    As another commenter said, it's not just the Jews. But it's not just the Euro-gentiles either. Arabs, Africans, Latin Americans, ... actually pretty much every ethnic group on earth seems to find blonde women alluring, even if at the ur-source--upper Midwest, northern Europe--many (most?) are as you say.

    Why? Dunno. Scarcity? Self-fulfilling cycle of media portrayal? Some universal preconscious association of fairness with good?

    Jews get a disproportionate rap for this because they have been disproportionately successful in the US and West Europe, so they have been in a position to act on this near-universal fascination by marrying/exploiting/whatevering the blondes (real or imagined) they come into contact with. But they're not doing anything anyone else wouldn't do given the chance.

    BTW, the upper Midwest does indeed have "nice big ones", but I notice that the blondes who emigrate away from the homeland tend to be the more conventionally pretty ones. Not surprising since they are more likely to gain the supposedly glamorous opportunities (however tawdry, exploitative and deadend those "opportunities" actually are). But the point is that this process leads to the (mis)perception everywhere else that blonde = statuesque Aryan. Sort of like the Chinese emigrating to the West tend to be disproportionately the intelligent and ambitious ones, leading to a (mis)perception among Westerners that all Chinese must be like that. Maybe there needs to be a term for this process, sort of like "metaethnic frontier" or whatever that term is that we use to describe the phenomenon of high-asabiya borderer groups. "Migratory skew"? "Osmotic derepresentation"?

    I like “migratory skew” a lot. I’ve been noticing this phenomenon for years. Why do Pakistanis/Koreans/Whoever end up owning a lot of businesses in whatever community they migrate to? Because if you’re ambitious and capable enough to move your family halfway around the world in hopes of greater material success, you’re hardly going to lose that part of your nature once you arrive.

    In other words, immigration – refugees aside, and certainly prior to easily accessible welfare and various other gamings of the system – self-selects for those migrants who were probably more likely to be successful anyway. (Whether they’ll be successful at integrating is another question.)

    …On further thought, this doesn’t really account for people from shitty third-world countries who migrate with the intention of doing the same kind of low-skilled, low-wage work they would have done at home, except that it pays better in a first-world country, and thus they can feed their entire extended family on their remittances.

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    "who migrate with the intention of doing the same kind of low-skilled, low-wage work they would have done at home,"
     
    Such as petty larceny and welfare fraud?
    , @Anonymous
    "ambitious and capable" = willing to work Sundays
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  241. @Wilkey
    Which allegations against Spacey are more serious? There's one report of him drunkenly hitting on a 14y.o. Anthony Rapp when Spacey was 26. All the other reports appear to be of him hitting on men of age, if on the young side.

    The allegations against the two men are quite different. The ones against Spacey do seem weirder in ways. Him fondling young men in public, including (allegedly) the 18 y.o. son of Richard Dreyfuss *while his dad was in the room.* Spacey is not an especially big man, so disparate strength was not a huge issue, especially when all his targets were men.

    The allegations against Weinstein feature a very large man harassing young women, in the privacy of his hotel room while he was in the position of making hiring decisions which could make or break careers.

    If you think the two cases are remotely similar then all I can say is seek professional help, because I doubt anyone here can help you.

    Oh, there’s much, much more brewing in the Spacey case:

    “Almost killed several of the boys”

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-island.html

    “Raped about a dozen boys in one of the poorest countries in the world.”

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/four-for-friday-more-on-island-and.html

    Breaking the rules at Bohemian Grove.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/10/blind-items-revealed-6_30.html

    And he’s such BFFs with Bubba, too…

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    You do know the guy just pulls these out of his ass, right?
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  242. black sea says:
    @Mr. Anon

    This could of course be the footnote to the vast majority of comments here.
     
    Especially yours.

    Ohh, the burn!

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    Merely an observation. People who complain about the general quality of comments on a board, invariably seem to be people whose own comments are less than memorable.
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  243. Pericles says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Not OT in the least. Looks like a breakthrough is starting to happen. this is like the moment in sci-fi films when the scientists and aliens manage to find a connection or when Helen Keller says "water!":

    https://twitter.com/jdforward/status/929003968352661504

    One of the special publications for the special people notices that the goyim have noticed. Terror, chaos, internet down, military forces sent into the streets.

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    We can hear them. They can hear us. They see us seeing them. We see them seeing us. On and on forever.
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  244. Pericles says:
    @Karl
    141 anotherguessmodel > Speaking of Portman, she’s been vocal about her heritage from the beginning of her career


    at least she's not a former "super model" whose main claim to fame is, having spent a few months being the temporary spare vagina for some Hollywood made-by-plastic-surgery star

    a lot of people forgot to rebuke me for forgetting to remember that a significant fraction of porn is of the "gonzo" genre, where some guy pays the girl to f---- him while he's holding the camera. If that's not the crime of soliciting prostitution, I don't know what is. Maybe it's "art"

    iSteve can dish it out against Jews, but he cannot handle references to his wife. Well, that's White Nationalism for you. It's the Children's Menu.

    … being the temporary spare vagina for …

    … a significant fraction of porn is of the “gonzo” genre, where some guy pays the girl to f—- him …

    iSteve can dish it out against Jews, but he cannot handle references to his wife. Well, that’s White Nationalism for you. It’s the Children’s Menu.

    Get lost, creep.

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  245. Pericles says:
    @Svigor
    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren't white. Non-racialist whites have no interest in whiteness, so racialist whites will increasingly dominate the definition. And it is through the latters' lens that Jews are least white (as much in the minds of Jews as in the minds of Whites). Of course it all depends on how successful white racialism is; if it takes over white consciousness then obviously Jews will tack hard white.

    I think eventually, the consensus will be that no, Jews aren’t white.

    I think it will, as usual, depend on the situation (“is it good for?”).

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  246. Pericles says:
    @black sea

    The USA is a rarity in being the only Western country to outlaw prostitution. At least, that I’m aware of.
     
    America is famously inclined to discount the immutable realities of human nature. Hence our world-wide reputation for hypocrisy.

    Sweden chose the logic trap of outlawing buying sex but not selling sex. Presumably because women are wonderful and men are not. In other news, the law is a pretzel.

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  247. dearieme says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a 'race', when you look at British Jews versus US Jews, the British Jews such as Sascha Baron-Cohen (Borat, Ali G) Sid James, Leslie Howard, Lawrence Harvey, Warren Mitchell (the original model for Archie Bunker), Daniel Day Lewis, Anthony Newley seem to have much more in common with their fellow Brits than with US Jews. As did Harold Abrahams, chairman of the Amateur Athletic Association, and the sprinter whose early life story became Chariots of Fire, a movie whose title is drawn from a phrase in Britain's second national anthem, William Blake's Jerusalem.

    Growing up in the UK I was aware that certain politicians like Clement Freud, Sir Keith Joseph, or Nigel Lawson, father of the even more famous Nigella, or moguls like Robert Maxwell were Jews, but certainly never thought of them being a different race. We would have thought of Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch) more as a Czech import than as someone who had sympathies with Israel, although after his death there were some claims that he was an agent of Mossad.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?

    I’ve long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can’t be sure because I don’t know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I’m wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and atheists who were spared attending church. So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off he was left with the Jews. He formed a high opinion of them.

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks. Can it be true: in the US both blacks and Jews are atypically troublesome? If so, why? If not, why the impression?

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    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism. This issue arose particularly in regards to the Boer War.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/260501?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    The current day left also insists on judging Israel by the standards they apply to all other countries too, hence the shift to the right since the halcyon Blair days. We have come full circle in the past 100 years, in may ways this mirrors the Bolshevik-Trotsky-neocon path of American Jews.
    , @Almost Missouri
    I don't know that it is anything to do with blacks and Jews per se. It is just that their numbers (and wealth) are proportionally much larger in the US than in Britain. Large enough that it is worthwhile for a major political party to stoke their grievance and engender a feeling among them of a separate political identity adversarial to the native mainstream.

    If you compare against say, Armenians or Eskimos (actual Eskimo, not "Eskimo" IYKWIMAITTYD), the Democrat-Media-Industrial-Complex doesn't bother looking for ways to make them conscious of themselves as a political force because there just aren't enough votes there for the effort.

    In historically ethnically homogeneous Britain, the dividing line that traditionally made political entities was social class: Labour vs. Tory. In the new multicult future though, British political parties are likely to become more ethni-conscious and politics are likely to take on some of America's unlovely racial tones.

    That blacks would be recruited as an ethnic vote has been inevitable since Emancipation, which is partly why the emancipators, such as Lincoln, wanted to repatriate them to Africa. As another commenter said recently regarding Jews, there were well-assimilated Sephardic and German Jewish communities in the US since forever (as in Britain), but the mass immigration of Eastern Jews in the late 19th and early 20th centuries seems to have created enough of a critical mass to become adversarial and self-seeking.
    , @syonredux

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks.
     
    Immigration filter effect. Cf the difference between Pakistanis in the UK and in the USA. Apparently, the UK got more low-performing Pakistanis than the US did.

    Also,do all Caribbean immigrant Blacks out-perform American Blacks?Haitians in Florida don't seem to be doing all that great....
    , @syonredux
    Of course, tensions did run a tad high post-'45.....


    https://www.newstatesman.com/2012/05/britains-last-anti-jewish-riots

    On summer bank holiday weekend, Friday, 1 August 1947, anti-Jewish violence and rioting began. News of the "cold blooded Irgun murders" spread across Britain through extensive coverage in the British media. The tabloid press reported the "Irgun murders" in graphic detail. The Daily Express carried a large picture on the front page, showing the victims as they were found with hands tied behind their backs, shirts wrapped round their heads and hung from eucalyptus trees under the headline: "Hanged Britons: picture that will shock the world". The violence began in Liverpool and subsequently spread across Britain's urban centres from London to Glasgow.[3]
    Incidents were reported in West Derby (Liverpool, England), where a wooden synagogue was burnt down, in Glasgow, Scotland where "bricks were thrown through the windows of Jewish shops", and in Liverpool City Centre, where "over a hundred windows belonging to Jewish owners were shattered". The rioting was most intensive and longest lasting in Liverpool: For over five days the city saw violence and looting, and the Lord Mayor issued an appeal to the city "to assist the police in the prevention of attacks on property and shops supposedly owned by Jews". In total over 300 Jewish properties were affected by the rioting in Liverpool, and the police made 88 arrests.[3][26]
    Synagogues and easily recognizable Jewish properties and symbols throughout Britain were targeted by attackers. In Hendon, London, windows of the Raleigh Close synagogue were smashed and a piece of paper was found with the words "Jews are sin". Blackpool and St John's Wood synagogues received telephone calls threatening that they would be blown up, and the walls of Plymouth Synagogue were attacked and marked with anti-semitic signs and slogans: "Hang all Jews" and "Destroy Judah". In other attacks on Jewish targets, gravestones in a Jewish cemetery were uprooted in Birmingham, "Hitler was right" was daubed on properties in North Wales, and Jewish property in Halifax, Pendleton, Lancashire, Bolton, Holyhead and Southend were also attacked. In a further incident, the back door of the JC representative's home in Cardiff was marked "Jews—good old Hitler". On 5 August 1947, The Times and Jewish Chronicle reported that in Eccles near Manchester, a crowd of 700 people "cheered each hit" as missiles pelted Jewish properties smashing their windows.[3]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair#Riots
    , @syonredux
    Blacks in the UK don't seem to be doing all that great....

    In June 2007 the Home Affairs Select Committee published a report on young black people and the criminal justice system of England and Wales. It said that young black people were over-represented at all stages of the criminal justice system.[12] The Commission for Racial Equality and youth charities welcomed the report.[13][14]
    Ministry of Justice figures regarding race and the criminal justice system in 2009/10 are shown in the table below.[15]
    White Black Asian Mixed Chinese or other Not stated/unknown
    Population aged 10 and over (2009) 88.6% 2.7% 5.6% 1.4% 1.6% 0.0%
    Stops and searches under Police and Criminal Evidence Act 67.2% 14.6% 9.6% 3.0% 1.2% 4.4%
    Arrests 2009/10 79.6% 8.0% 5.6% 2.9% 1.5% 2.4%
    Prison population (including foreign nationals) 72.0% 13.7% 7.1% 3.5% 1.4% 2.2%
     

    Figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that in 2007 an estimated 10.6 percent of London's population of 7,556,900 were black.
     

    In June 2010 The Sunday Telegraph, through a Freedom of Information Act request, obtained statistics on accusations of crime broken down by race from the Metropolitan Police Service.[n 2] The figures showed that the majority of males who were accused of violent crimes in 2009–10 were black. Of the recorded 18,091 such accusations against males, 54 percent accused of street crimes were black; for robbery, 59 percent; and for gun crimes, 67 percent.[27] Robbery, drug use, and gang violence have been associated with black people since the 1960s.[28] In the 1980s and 1990s, the police associated robbery with black people. In 1995, the Metropolitan Police commissioner Paul Condon said that the majority of robberies in London were committed by black people.[
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom
    , @syonredux

    Population aged 10 and over (2009) 88.6% 2.7% 5.6% 1.4% 1.6% 0.0%
    Stops and searches under Police and Criminal Evidence Act 67.2% 14.6% 9.6% 3.0% 1.2% 4.4%
    Arrests 2009/10 79.6% 8.0% 5.6% 2.9% 1.5% 2.4%
    Prison population (including foreign nationals) 72.0% 13.7% 7.1% 3.5% 1.4% 2.2%
     
    And, just to underline the point, Blacks in 2009 were 2.7% of the population of the UK (over 10 group), yet they accounted for 8.0% of all arrests and 13.7% of the prison population. Just imagine what things would look like if Blacks were, say, 12% of the population.....
    , @Yngvar

    So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off...
     
    Nice!
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  248. @Svigor

    Way too hard on redheads there. Prime Gillian Anderson, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jessica Chastain are all extremely beautiful. Amy Adams is very cute as well.
     
    Don't forget Julianne Moore. Redheads are boom or bust. Usually not that great, but once in a while you get one that blows everything else away. I suspect the look doesn't translate well to the silver screen. Also, most people seem to hate freckles, for whatever reason. Heavily freckled people can be too much, but otherwise I'm a fan.

    One thing I've noticed about Nordic women, they make robust skull/jaw work in a way that others can't or don't. Nordics have a strong tendency toward "facial pinching"; it's either a normal-sized face on a large skull, or a small face on a normal skull.

    Don’t ‘spose any of you young ‘uns have ever heard of Ann-Margret?

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    Lee Remick was pretty nice too.
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  249. @Jack D
    I've never understood Zellweger's appeal. I'm not even sure she is a 6 by Hollywood standards. She has a pig face and chipmunk cheeks even when she is not overweight.

    Zellweger is part Lapp.

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    I don't think that's verified, nor that she herself has said so. Just something that made its way online. Her ancestry is mostly Swiss and Scandinavian.
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  250. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @SteveRogers42
    Oh, there's much, much more brewing in the Spacey case:

    "Almost killed several of the boys"

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-island.html

    "Raped about a dozen boys in one of the poorest countries in the world."

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/four-for-friday-more-on-island-and.html

    Breaking the rules at Bohemian Grove.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/10/blind-items-revealed-6_30.html

    And he's such BFFs with Bubba, too...

    You do know the guy just pulls these out of his ass, right?

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    Phrasing!
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  251. LondonBob says:
    @dearieme
    I've long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can't be sure because I don't know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I'm wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and atheists who were spared attending church. So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off he was left with the Jews. He formed a high opinion of them.

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks. Can it be true: in the US both blacks and Jews are atypically troublesome? If so, why? If not, why the impression?

    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism. This issue arose particularly in regards to the Boer War.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/260501?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    The current day left also insists on judging Israel by the standards they apply to all other countries too, hence the shift to the right since the halcyon Blair days. We have come full circle in the past 100 years, in may ways this mirrors the Bolshevik-Trotsky-neocon path of American Jews.

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    Also, British Jews have been intermarrying with the majority population for longer than American Jews.
    , @syonredux

    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism.
     
    Cf Jonathan Freedland:

    As the Conservative party divides its time between running the country and tearing itself apart over Europe, Labour has been consumed with a rather different problem. In the past two weeks, it has had to expel two activists for overt racism. That follows the creation of an inquiry into the Labour club at Oxford University, after the co-chair resigned saying the club was riddled with racism. The racism in question is hatred of Jews.

    I suspect many in Labour and on the wider left dearly wish three things to be true of this problem. That these are just a few bad apples in an otherwise pristine barrel; that these incidents aren’t actually about racism at all but concern only opposition to Israel; and that none of this reflects negatively on Jeremy Corbyn.

    Start with the bad apples. The cases of Gerry Downing and Vicki Kirby certainly look pretty rotten. The former said it was time to wrestle with the “Jewish Question”, the latter hailed Hitler as a “Zionist God” and tweeted a line about Jews having “big noses”, complete with a “lol”.
    It’d be so much easier if these were just two rogue cases. But when Alex Chalmers quit his post at Oxford’s Labour club, he said he’d concluded that many had “some kind of problem with Jews”. He cited the case of one club member who organised a group to shout “filthy Zionist” at a Jewish student whenever they saw her. Former Labour MP Tom Harris wrote this week that the party “does indeed have a problem with Jews”. And there is, of course, the word of Jews themselves. They have been warning of this phenomenon for years, lamenting that parts of the left were succumbing to views of Jews drenched in prejudice.

     


    While many Jews – especially in conversations with each other – condemn Israeli government policy going back many years, they do identify strongly with Israel and its people. A recent survey found that 93% of British Jews said Israel formed some part of their identity. Through ties of family or history, they are bound up with it. When Jews pray they face east – towards Jerusalem. And they have done that for 2,000 years.

    It’s inconvenient, I know, but that needs to be remembered by those who insist that there’s no connection between Israel and Jews, that it’s perfectly possible to loathe everything about Israel – the world’s only Jewish country – without showing any hostility to Jews.

    Jews themselves usually don’t see it, or experience it, that way. That doesn’t mean no one should ever criticise Israel, for fear of treading on Jewish sensitivities. Of course it doesn’t. But it does mean that many Jews worry when they see a part of the left whose hatred of Israel is so intense, unmatched by the animus directed at any other state.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/18/labour-antisemitism-jews-jeremy-corbyn
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  252. @black sea

    All the more shocking given Anniston’s man-jaw and apparent inability to act.
     
    I don't know about the man-jaw.

    Jennifer Anniston, at least in her younger days, was both extremely pretty and cute. I hope that doesn't sound redundant.

    Women who are pretty, maybe even beautiful, are alluring, but also off-putting. It's like the prospect of climbing Everest in a snowstorm. Women who are cute are like a pleasant hike in the hills. Very few women can come across as both.

    Also, Anniston was gracious enough to take on a key role in low-budget film by a little-known director, about the year 2000 switch, for which we should all be grateful.

    When Brad Pitt opted for Angelina Jolie over Jennifer Anniston, he choose insanity over stability, a terrible marital move.

    I work in a high school in the Upper Midwest. I will tell you that many, many girls there look better than your typical Hollywood starlet.

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  253. Zellweger now looks like a cross between Kate Winslet and Nicole Kidman, yet still has the wide cheeks which cosmetic surgery cannot humanely alter.

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  254. @Mr. Anon

    What’s this thing Jews have for blondes?
     
    It isn't just a jewish thing. A lot of gentile guys think that blondes are more attractive. I don't happen to agree, but there it is.

    I find women with light or medium brown hair who dye their hair blonde more attractive than natural blondes for some reason. This is coming from a guy who was born a”tow head” (white hair) and now as an adult has hair that is just a tad darker than Boris Johnson’s.

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  255. @Matthew McConnagay
    I like "migratory skew" a lot. I've been noticing this phenomenon for years. Why do Pakistanis/Koreans/Whoever end up owning a lot of businesses in whatever community they migrate to? Because if you're ambitious and capable enough to move your family halfway around the world in hopes of greater material success, you're hardly going to lose that part of your nature once you arrive.

    In other words, immigration - refugees aside, and certainly prior to easily accessible welfare and various other gamings of the system - self-selects for those migrants who were probably more likely to be successful anyway. (Whether they'll be successful at integrating is another question.)

    ...On further thought, this doesn't really account for people from shitty third-world countries who migrate with the intention of doing the same kind of low-skilled, low-wage work they would have done at home, except that it pays better in a first-world country, and thus they can feed their entire extended family on their remittances.

    “who migrate with the intention of doing the same kind of low-skilled, low-wage work they would have done at home,”

    Such as petty larceny and welfare fraud?

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  256. BB753 says:
    @LondonBob
    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism. This issue arose particularly in regards to the Boer War.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/260501?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    The current day left also insists on judging Israel by the standards they apply to all other countries too, hence the shift to the right since the halcyon Blair days. We have come full circle in the past 100 years, in may ways this mirrors the Bolshevik-Trotsky-neocon path of American Jews.

    Also, British Jews have been intermarrying with the majority population for longer than American Jews.

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  257. @dearieme
    I've long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can't be sure because I don't know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I'm wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and atheists who were spared attending church. So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off he was left with the Jews. He formed a high opinion of them.

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks. Can it be true: in the US both blacks and Jews are atypically troublesome? If so, why? If not, why the impression?

    I don’t know that it is anything to do with blacks and Jews per se. It is just that their numbers (and wealth) are proportionally much larger in the US than in Britain. Large enough that it is worthwhile for a major political party to stoke their grievance and engender a feeling among them of a separate political identity adversarial to the native mainstream.

    If you compare against say, Armenians or Eskimos (actual Eskimo, not “Eskimo” IYKWIMAITTYD), the Democrat-Media-Industrial-Complex doesn’t bother looking for ways to make them conscious of themselves as a political force because there just aren’t enough votes there for the effort.

    In historically ethnically homogeneous Britain, the dividing line that traditionally made political entities was social class: Labour vs. Tory. In the new multicult future though, British political parties are likely to become more ethni-conscious and politics are likely to take on some of America’s unlovely racial tones.

    That blacks would be recruited as an ethnic vote has been inevitable since Emancipation, which is partly why the emancipators, such as Lincoln, wanted to repatriate them to Africa. As another commenter said recently regarding Jews, there were well-assimilated Sephardic and German Jewish communities in the US since forever (as in Britain), but the mass immigration of Eastern Jews in the late 19th and early 20th centuries seems to have created enough of a critical mass to become adversarial and self-seeking.

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  258. @Anonymous
    Even after many years of hearing about it, I always find this whole Jewish looks vs shiksappeal stuff, and the depth of feeling it can evoke, kind of strange. I guess mostly because coming from the northern reaches of Southern Europe, none of these people would be thought of here as visibly belonging to different ethnic groups. Obviously, I was always aware that Northern Europeans and the Jewish populations living among them on average look different from each other. But I was very surprised to learn how big of a deal this is.

    A much bigger deal on this board (especially after the frenzy of the last few weeks) than in real life. Really, in Golden Age Hollywood Jewish actors blended in and played non-ethnically-marked roles more than Italians or other Eastern/Southern Europeans ever did.

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  259. Jack D says:
    @Moses
    You all do realize that "shiksa" means "whore," don't you?

    No it doesn’t. It is derived from the Hebrew word sheketz which means “not kosher” or “that which you should not eat”. A nice Jewish boy should definitely not be eating shiksas, Harvey. See for example Leviticus 11 which lists all the non-kosher animals:

    10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as sheketz.

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    If you say so.
    , @dwb
    Jack -

    I'm no Hebrew scholar, but if you're going back to Leviticus, and choosing "sheketz" as the origin (makes sense), then you're white-washing just a bit.

    In the passage you site about items that are "sheketz" (non-Kosher), the meaning is more that such a thing is unclean, and detestable to God.

    Thins other than food can be kosher or non-kosher. Meaning that they are "proper" or even ritually cleaned.

    I think it's a bridge too far to say that the meaning of "shiksa" in common usage implies something as nasty as to say that the woman is a "whore," but it is not that far over the line.


    After all, God did not forbid the Jews eating pork or shellfish at random, did he?
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  260. @Pericles
    One of the special publications for the special people notices that the goyim have noticed. Terror, chaos, internet down, military forces sent into the streets.

    We can hear them. They can hear us. They see us seeing them. We see them seeing us. On and on forever.

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  261. RobertTS says:
    @biz
    First off, this is not true:

    Although there is a tendency for Jews in the US to market themselves as a ‘race’
     
    I know, I know, Mike Wallace's awkward interview with Morgan Freeman 35 years ago which will forever be on endless loop here, but aside from that one incident, if there is one thing that American Jews on the Left and Right agree on, it is that they are white. The former because they believe that privilege is real and the po' folks are being kept down, and the latter because they are proud that they have successfully assimilated to the highest socioeconomic culture.

    Around here people are fond of sarcastically citing Tim Wise's "fellow white people" rant so it is strange to now claim that American Jews are presenting themselves as a distinct race.

    In fact, having experienced both educated American and British worldviews, I can say that it is the (non-Jewish) British people who are more likely to view being Jewish as a distinct ethnicity (not race, of course) whereas (non-Jewish) Americans often view being Jewish (incorrectly) as strictly a religious choice.

    So maybe British Jews are more integrated than US Jews, or is it all an illusion?
     
    American Jews are highly integrated, as are British Jews, so yes, it is all an illusion.

    The one difference that is sociologically interesting is that British Jews overwhelmingly support the Tory party.

    The one difference that is sociologically interesting is that British Jews overwhelmingly support the Tory party.

    Perhaps the longer-rooted Sephardic portion was always right-leaning (at least since its political emancipation and not just because of Disraeli) due to the Tories being the party of business? The later Eastern European immigrants woud’ve been more enthused by radical ideas.

    I seem to recall a Jewish Tory MP from the 1950s, Gerald Toledano (?), who pretty much campaigned on an anti-immigration and pro-Empire platform in more explicit terms than would Enoch Powell.

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  262. syonredux says:
    @dearieme
    I've long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can't be sure because I don't know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I'm wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and atheists who were spared attending church. So on Sunday when the Christians and Roman Catholics had marched off he was left with the Jews. He formed a high opinion of them.

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks. Can it be true: in the US both blacks and Jews are atypically troublesome? If so, why? If not, why the impression?

    I get the impression that American blacks are also a problem on a scale greater than elsewhere. I keep reading that, for instance, Caribbean black immigrants to the US far outperform native blacks.

    Immigration filter effect. Cf the difference between Pakistanis in the UK and in the USA. Apparently, the UK got more low-performing Pakistanis than the US did.

    Also,do all Caribbean immigrant Blacks out-perform American Blacks?Haitians in Florida don’t seem to be doing all that great….

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  263. Mr. Anon says:
    @black sea
    Ohh, the burn!

    Merely an observation. People who complain about the general quality of comments on a board, invariably seem to be people whose own comments are less than memorable.

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  264. syonredux says:
    @LondonBob
    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism. This issue arose particularly in regards to the Boer War.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/260501?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    The current day left also insists on judging Israel by the standards they apply to all other countries too, hence the shift to the right since the halcyon Blair days. We have come full circle in the past 100 years, in may ways this mirrors the Bolshevik-Trotsky-neocon path of American Jews.

    Historically the left in Britain has always been more critical of the Jewish community, especially the close relationship Jews had with banking and Imperialism.

    Cf Jonathan Freedland:

    As the Conservative party divides its time between running the country and tearing itself apart over Europe, Labour has been consumed with a rather different problem. In the past two weeks, it has had to expel two activists for overt racism. That follows the creation of an inquiry into the Labour club at Oxford University, after the co-chair resigned saying the club was riddled with racism. The racism in question is hatred of Jews.

    I suspect many in Labour and on the wider left dearly wish three things to be true of this problem. That these are just a few bad apples in an otherwise pristine barrel; that these incidents aren’t actually about racism at all but concern only opposition to Israel; and that none of this reflects negatively on Jeremy Corbyn.

    Start with the bad apples. The cases of Gerry Downing and Vicki Kirby certainly look pretty rotten. The former said it was time to wrestle with the “Jewish Question”, the latter hailed Hitler as a “Zionist God” and tweeted a line about Jews having “big noses”, complete with a “lol”.
    It’d be so much easier if these were just two rogue cases. But when Alex Chalmers quit his post at Oxford’s Labour club, he said he’d concluded that many had “some kind of problem with Jews”. He cited the case of one club member who organised a group to shout “filthy Zionist” at a Jewish student whenever they saw her. Former Labour MP Tom Harris wrote this week that the party “does indeed have a problem with Jews”. And there is, of course, the word of Jews themselves. They have been warning of this phenomenon for years, lamenting that parts of the left were succumbing to views of Jews drenched in prejudice.

    While many Jews – especially in conversations with each other – condemn Israeli government policy going back many years, they do identify strongly with Israel and its people. A recent survey found that 93% of British Jews said Israel formed some part of their identity. Through ties of family or history, they are bound up with it. When Jews pray they face east – towards Jerusalem. And they have done that for 2,000 years.

    It’s inconvenient, I know, but that needs to be remembered by those who insist that there’s no connection between Israel and Jews, that it’s perfectly possible to loathe everything about Israel – the world’s only Jewish country – without showing any hostility to Jews.

    Jews themselves usually don’t see it, or experience it, that way. That doesn’t mean no one should ever criticise Israel, for fear of treading on Jewish sensitivities. Of course it doesn’t. But it does mean that many Jews worry when they see a part of the left whose hatred of Israel is so intense, unmatched by the animus directed at any other state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/18/labour-antisemitism-jews-jeremy-corbyn

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  265. Mr. Anon says:
    @SteveRogers42
    Don't 'spose any of you young 'uns have ever heard of Ann-Margret?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0NYJhZ6iAJo/UbUFu6Gaw0I/AAAAAAAAMUo/NNV7kvRbA5k/s1600/Ann-Margret+Goddess+030.jpg

    Lee Remick was pretty nice too.

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  266. syonredux says:
    @dearieme
    I've long wondered whether American Jews are less assimilated than British Jews. I can't be sure because I don't know who among my friends and acquaintances are Jews. I have a suspicion that few Americans could make that statement but maybe I'm wrong.

    When my father was in the army he knew who was Jewish because it was Jews and