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From the New York Times:

Power and Punishment: Two New Books About Race and Crime
By KHALIL GIBRAN MUHAMMAD APRIL 14, 2017

LOCKING UP OUR OWN
Crime and Punishment in Black America
By James Forman Jr.
Illustrated 306 pp. Farrar, Straus & Giroux. $27.

A COLONY IN A NATION
By Chris Hayes
256 pp. W. W. Norton & Company. $26.95.

… Two new books offer timely and complementary ways of understanding America’s punitive culture and, in the process, stark pleas to abolish it. In “Locking Up Our Own,” James Forman Jr. explains how and why an influx of black “firsts” took the municipal reins of government after the civil rights movement only to unleash the brutal power of the criminal justice system on their constituents; in “A Colony in a Nation,” Chris Hayes shows that throughout American history, freedom — despite all the high-minded ideals — has often entailed the subjugation of another.

Forman, a Yale Law School professor and former Washington, D.C., public defender, has written a masterly account of how a generation of black elected officials wrestled with recurring crises of violence and drug use in the nation’s capital. …

Ultimately, Washington’s black officials embraced the Nixonian law-and-order mood of the nation, passing increasingly tougher laws and adopting aggressive policing practices into the 1990s. Marion Barry, Washington’s future mayor, claimed the mantle of drug warrior (before he fell victim to his own addiction), and the stark and visible pattern of African-Americans increasingly locking up their own was replicated elsewhere. “When an urgent problem required a short-term solution, law enforcement was regarded as the only answer,” Forman writes. In 1978, Washington appointed its first black police chief, Burtell Jefferson, a staunch advocate for mandatory minimum sentencing, to lead the nation’s first black-majority police department. By 1990, there were 130 black police chiefs in the United States and more than 300 black mayors.

Given a century of brutal, anti-black racism in the criminal justice system after the Civil War, these developments give rise to some obvious questions: When African-American officials finally gained a measure of control over the machinery of the law, why did mass incarceration happen on their watch? In other words, why did they lock up their own?

Forman offers three explanations. First, black officials did not see mass incarceration coming. No one did, he argues. It was “the result of a series of small decisions, made over time, by a disparate group of actors.” (Hayes makes the same point in his book.) Second, after legal segregation fell, African-American class biases came to the fore. Class privilege meant that middle-class and elite blacks had a smaller chance of exposure to criminal victimization and the full hammer of the law, especially long prison sentences. Citing a 1966 University of Michigan study, Forman writes that “a surprising number” of working-class black cops “didn’t like other black people — at least not the poor blacks they tended to police.”

The third reason is a big deal and a major breakthrough. Forman’s novel claim is this: What most explains the punitive turn in black America is not a repudiation of civil rights activism, as some have argued, but an embrace of it. “African-Americans have always viewed the protection of black lives as a civil rights issue, whether the threat comes from police officers or street criminals,” he writes. “Far from ignoring the issue of crime by blacks against other blacks, African-American officials and their constituents have been consumed by it.” Forman recalls his own experience as a public defender and the case of a 15-year-old first offender who was facing sentencing for handgun possession and a small bag of pot; a black judge, hearing Forman’s plea for leniency, was unmoved. “Dr. King didn’t march and die so that you could be a fool, so that you could be out on the street, getting high, carrying a gun and robbing people,” the judge admonished. “No, young man, that was not his dream.”

In this way, post-civil-rights leaders reimagined Dr. King as a crime crusader. In 1995, one year after Bill Clinton signed the biggest crime bill in American history, the nation’s first black United States attorney for the District of Columbia, Eric Holder, announced a major anti-crime initiative called Operation Ceasefire at a Martin Luther King Day celebration in Arlington: “Did Martin Luther King successfully fight the likes of Bull Connor so that we could ultimately lose the struggle for civil rights to misguided or malicious members of our own race?”

This wasn’t the politics of respectability; it was what Forman calls the “politics of responsibility.” Dr. King’s legacy had become fodder for a national trend of personal responsibility jeremiads aimed at black America. This moment peaked about a decade ago just when Barack Obama, an exemplar of propriety, kicked off his presidential candidacy and Bill Cosby was wrapping up a national “call out” tour, dispensing the gospel of tough love in black communities.

Okay … but here’s a graph I found on Wikipedia within 3 minutes showing the homicide rate in Washington DC (blue line) and nationally (red line):

This graph sure puts a different perspective on things than all that verbiage.

Back in the early 1960s before the triumph of the civil rights movement and the Miranda ruling, D.C.’s homicide rate was about twice the national average. By the early 1990s, the rate had octupled in absolute terms and it was eight times the national average. Since the beginning of the time in the mid-1990s that this book complains about, the homicide rate in D.C. fell by about 80%.

However, although this graph runs out in 2012, homicides in D.C. went back up some during the Late Obama Age Collapse. The number of homicides in the District in 2015-16 was 42% higher than in 2013-14.

 
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  1. “African-Americans have always viewed the protection of black lives as a civil rights issue, whether the threat comes from police officers or street criminals”

    Not very meaningful, considering they view every damn thing as a civil rights issue, or at least any time they sense potential advantage in doing so.

    Oprah’s vast fortune not being one penny richer is probably a civil rights issue.

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    KHALIL GIBRAN MUHAMMAD?
    That seems like an SJW parody of a Muslim name.
    I suspect those hurricane eye dancing Chechen Sufis would kick his a**.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    He's a great-grandson of Elijah Mohammed, founder of the Nation of Islam.
  3. Isn’t DC much less Black than it used to be?

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    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    Yes, blacks no longer a majority. We need another line on that graph that shows that decline.

    Black pop % in DC, by decade:

    1960: 54
    1970: 71
    1980: 70
    1990: 66
    2000: 60
    2010: 51
    (2015): 49
    , @conatus
    "Black residents are a shrinking portion of the city west of the river. 21,000 fewer Black residents live west of the river than before the recession. Just 33 percent of residents living west of the Anacostia River are Black, down from 42 percent in 2007. By contrast, nearly all residents living east of the river are African American – 92 percent – reflecting the legacy of segregation in DC."

    http://www.dcfpi.org/dcs-black-residents-increasingly-live-east-of-the-anacostia-river
  4. wow, using” bill cosby and tough love “in the same sentence ,seriously?

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  5. Citing a 1966 University of Michigan study, Forman writes that “a surprising number” of working-class black cops “didn’t like other black people — at least not the poor blacks they tended to police

    If you grew up with them and made good you wouldn’t like them much either. Dez Bryant’s comments recently are a great example.

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    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    I was at an event recently, mostly "talented 10th" folks... and a lot of their lives revolved around avoiding lower class blacks -jobs, where they lived, vacations... they didn't necessarily want to become assimilated with middle class whites so much as they didn't want to be dragged down by the undertow of their co-ethnics
  6. @Anonymous
    KHALIL GIBRAN MUHAMMAD?
    That seems like an SJW parody of a Muslim name.
    I suspect those hurricane eye dancing Chechen Sufis would kick his a**.

    He’s a great-grandson of Elijah Mohammed, founder of the Nation of Islam.

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    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    I wonder if they know that "Khalil Gibran" is a Christian name?
  7. Nobody dislikes disorderly lower class blacks than other blacks – google Chris Rock’s routine on this.

    I would also agree with the statement in the review that black cops often despise the people they have to police. One of the times when a disagreement turned into a melee involving several dozen of my black neighbors in DC, after the cops showed up to deal with it I was standing near a couple of them (both black) and one just looked at me and said “these people are animals” while the other nodded in agreement. I was somewhat taken aback to hear that, especially a black person saying that to a white resident of a mostly black neighborhood, but over time as I saw more incidents and how the arriving cops conducted myself, I could tell that there was very little empathy for the lower class blacks and often quite a bit of disgust both from the cops and my working class black neighbors.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them). Privately they say stuff that would get you banned by the SPLC. The idea that black dysfunctionality is caused by poverty and racism does not wash with them at all because they come from places where almost everyone is poorer than the poorest American black (and there are no white oppressors left to blame). Eric Holder must have imbibed this stuff with his mother's milk. Perhaps in the future they will have to put Caribbean black babies on the random baby swap carousel to end this kind of multi-generational racism.
  8. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    When African-American officials finally gained a measure of control over the machinery of the law, why did mass incarceration happen on their watch? In other words, why did they lock up their own?

    they don’t see gangstas as their own – no more than white officials saw Dillinger as their own

    Forman writes that “a surprising number” of working-class black cops “didn’t like other black people — at least not the poor blacks they tended to police.”

    A lot of black cops come from the more K-selected part of the black spectrum so they dislike the more r-elected ones – often more so than white cops do.

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  9. Marion Barry fell victim to his own addiction — to what?

    His fall from grace seemed to be precipitated by his being alone with a woman other than his wife, who urged him to partake of crack cocaine while his mind was focused on another vice? I would hardly call him addicted to cocaine if he had that something, actually someone else higher in his Maslow Hierarchy of Needs than this drug?

    It is obvious from the video that His Honor did indeed know which end of a crack pipe to smoke. Isn’t this one of the fallacies, however, of the 12-Step crowd that every user is an addict?

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    • Replies: @Flip
    The bitch did indeed set him up. I think the powers that be wanted him out.
  10. It occurs to me that much of our ‘zeitgeist’ derives from the need to ‘publish or perish’ in academia. Books, studies and papers are written, then reviewed and reported on in the media by the self-selected group of people who become academics. Thus the thoughts of a former public defender who becomes a professor at Yale Law, as in the case here, becomes the conventional wisdom. We just aren’t going to hear what the thinking is of the far more numerous public defenders who do not become law school professors might be. Most would acknowledge that, whatever the faults in the criminal justice system may be, most of their ‘clients’ are low lifes and louts. Of course if you are an Ivy League law school professor making such a common sense observation is not going to win you any academic ‘brownie points’ so you have to pound square pegs into round holes to get attention.

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  11. @Ed
    He's a great-grandson of Elijah Mohammed, founder of the Nation of Islam.

    I wonder if they know that “Khalil Gibran” is a Christian name?

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  12. This graph sure puts a different perspective on things than all that verbiage.

    Sorry for being dense, but what does the graph tell us that’s inconsistent with the article?

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  13. If there is anything which should be obvious by now it is that the “elite” can ALWAYS hire front men for their “policies”. There were some black front men for “law and order” policies? Come on – look at all the front-man “economists” for organized robbery by the banks and Wall Street.

    It might be useful to remember that banks and narcotics go together for centuries already and both the bankers and drug traffickers are protected by “our” governments.

    The Jewish Opium Trade and Britain

    http://satyricon20.tripod.com/sat33-Sassoon.htm

    Controller Houses Of The East India Company: EIC Series Part IV

    http://greatgameindia.com/controller-houses-east-india-company-eic-series-part-iv/

    East India Company’s trade was divided into many parts and a particular family owned each part. They were given full control over a nation under consideration. They developed local industrial/business house, through which they exploited the independent nations. So for people of any nation, it is the local industrial house that comes to light as the exploiter and not EICs. Even today these Houses control most of the MNCs we see and follow the same Ideology & Methodology as the EICs.

    HSBC, too big to jail, is the new poster child for US two-tiered justice system

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/12/hsbc-prosecution-fine-money-laundering

    DOJ officials unblinkingly insist that the banking giant is too powerful and important to subject to the rule of law… Over the last year, federal investigators found that one of the world’s largest banks, HSBC, spent years committing serious crimes, involving money laundering for terrorists; “facilitat[ing] money laundering by Mexican drug cartels”; and “mov[ing] tainted money for Saudi banks tied to terrorist groups”. Those investigations uncovered substantial evidence “that senior bank officials were complicit in the illegal activity.” As but one example, “an HSBC executive at one point argued that the bank should continue working with the Saudi Al Rajhi bank, which has supported Al Qaeda.”…

    These “new” books seem criminally superficial. Perhaps a good example of “divide and conquer” by the elite to keep the plebes from reacting?

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    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Sassoons, yes, British East Company, absolutely.

    But, don't neglect the distinguished American families that did well in the opium trade. After all, one of the family members made it all the way to the White House and another came very close:

    http://www.alternet.org/drugs/5-elite-families-fortunes-opium-trade
  14. Does the NY Times have any credibility? Does their selection of what books are “important” have any credibility? They have seemed an increasingly obvious operation in thought control by a minority sect for a LONG time already.

    New York Times a “Propaganda Megaphone” for War, Says Former Reporter

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/12943-new-york-times-a-%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C5%93propaganda-megaphone%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%9D-for-war-says-former-reporter

    The New York Times has essentially become a “propaganda megaphone” to peddle the establishment’s narrative — especially when it comes to war — charged foreign correspondent Daniel Simpson, who resigned from the paper in disgust. According to Simpson, the paper, which is often lambasted and ridiculed by conservatives and libertarians for its blatant “liberal” bias, is actually just a propaganda tool for the ruling establishment.

    An Obituary of The New York Times

    http://www.unz.com/article/an-obituary-of-the-new-york-times/

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  15. @jimmyriddle
    Isn't DC much less Black than it used to be?

    Yes, blacks no longer a majority. We need another line on that graph that shows that decline.

    Black pop % in DC, by decade:

    1960: 54
    1970: 71
    1980: 70
    1990: 66
    2000: 60
    2010: 51
    (2015): 49

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    The first time I visited DC (the summer of 1973) the ghetto began a couple of blocks from the White House and the Capitol. The downtown commercial district was sort of a sleepy Southern town with cafeterias instead of real restaurants where everyone moved in slow motion in the steamy summer air. The fact that there were these (mostly Roosevelt era) faux-Roman temples lined up along the mall just made the other stuff look worse by contrast. New York at that point had also gone downhill but nothing like this. I was shocked that this was the capital of the greatest nation on earth.
  16. There are 26 letters in the alphabet. Lauding this article is like learning “a” to “b” and then patting yourself on the back for being a genius, lol.

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  17. Right up my alley, Steve.

    « In 1984, Congress repealed the federal Youth Act, in part because there was little evidence that the law was effective. The D.C. Council and then-Mayor Barry expressed shock and disgust. Wilhelmina J. Rolark (D), then-chair of the D.C. Council’s Judiciary Committee, drafted a law for the District. Rolark, who died in 2006, said “extra care” needed to be taken to prevent young black men from being labeled as career criminals.

    « Barry’s administration argued that many violent crimes should be off-limits for Youth Act sentences. But Rolark’s committee said all crimes except for murder and a second violent crime committed while armed would be eligible for Youth Act sentencing.

    « Rolark’s committee passed the bill 3 to 1. John Ray, now a lawyer, was the lone no vote.

    « Youth Act sentences account for about 15 percent of all felony sentences in D.C. Superior Court.

    « Youth Act offenders accounted for 1 in 5 suspects arrested on homicide charges in the District since 2010, a period that has seen a recent surge in homicides and growing public concern about repeat violent offenders.

    « The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016. »

    – Second-chance law for young criminals puts violent offenders back on D.C. streets, Part III, Washington Post, Dec. 3, 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/second-chance-law-for-young-criminals-puts-violent-offenders-back-on-dc-streets/2016/12/02/fcb56c74-8bc1-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html?utm_term=.cdf6a48f6806&wpisrc=nl_lclheads&wpmm=1

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    • Replies: @unit472
    ia wrote:

    " The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016..."

    What is really astonishing is that there were over 168,000 criminal prosecutions in Washington in less than 10 years. The total population is just a tiny bit over 600,000 of which 50% is black. Thus we have a total black population of approximately 300,000 of which a bit over 50% will be female. The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. Given what we know about crime rates based on race, age and sex it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period.
  18. Well, if it’s blacks who mostly shoot blacks, then it make sense that it’s blacks who mostly put blacks in prison. Who better understands the futility of dealing with black people?

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  19. Since blacks commit almost 100% of violent crime in DC you really need to correlate violent crime with the percetage and total number of blacks to non-black population. When I did this it turns out the rate of violent crime per 100,000 of the black population has actually stayed the same since 2000. Crime in total number and rate has gone up since 2005, especially aggravated assault since 2012. In numbers and rate, there was more AgAssault in 2014 than in either 1970, 1989 and 2010. Much more in 1990 however with an insanely high crime rate with historically low population.

    What this means is that liberalism is not creating a multicultural Eden in the most opportune place to do so on the planet. What is especially startling is that these numbers reflect greater racial antagonism during a period in which hard-core college-educated white liberals flooded into DC, increasing from a low of 176,000 in 2000 to 296.5K in 2015.

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  20. Judges are not randomly selected and have to appeal to voters and especially the police.

    Wright was given the nickname “Turn ‘Em Loose Bruce” by the police officer’s unions in New York City because of his bail practices, and it was repeated often in the New York newspapers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_M._Wright

    “civil rights movement and the Miranda”
    I don’t get the complaint about Miranda. It is not clear to me how ending Jim Crow lead to crime. I guess you mean integration?

    Trends that ended crime in the US:
    Youth demographic peaks in the 60s and 70s
    ATM cards mean targets of crime have much less money on them than before I think 1985
    The collapse of the American middle class means burglary gets you less nice stuff, and especially less gold and silver, which used to be common in American middle class families. Watch antiques road show to get a flavor of what was.
    Probably police techniques like DNA mean that rape in particular is solvable.

    Future negative trends.
    It is possible MS-13 will bring to the US Salvadorean organized crime including protection and kidnapping rackets to the US.

    With much of the US facing a financial crisis expect to see disorder in the future. pensionTsunami.com for some discussion of government finance.

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  21. @anon
    http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

    There is a book about this called ‘Black Silent Majority’. Has anyone here read it?

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  22. Steve, did you know that James Forman, Jr. is the grandson of Jessica Mitford of The Mitford Sisters? And that his grandfather, Esmond Romilly, was the nephew by marriage of Winston Churchill (although Wikipedia mentions a rumor that he was actually Churchill’s son)? His brother Chaka Forman is an actor whose Hollywood career, according to imdb, appears to have stalled.

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  23. @jimmyriddle
    Isn't DC much less Black than it used to be?

    “Black residents are a shrinking portion of the city west of the river. 21,000 fewer Black residents live west of the river than before the recession. Just 33 percent of residents living west of the Anacostia River are Black, down from 42 percent in 2007. By contrast, nearly all residents living east of the river are African American – 92 percent – reflecting the legacy of segregation in DC.”

    http://www.dcfpi.org/dcs-black-residents-increasingly-live-east-of-the-anacostia-river

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    • Replies: @ia
    LOL. Blacks aren't used to being driven out by whites. Always, until recently, the other way round. Like 87% white Anacostia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacostia
  24. @DCThrowback
    Yes, blacks no longer a majority. We need another line on that graph that shows that decline.

    Black pop % in DC, by decade:

    1960: 54
    1970: 71
    1980: 70
    1990: 66
    2000: 60
    2010: 51
    (2015): 49

    The first time I visited DC (the summer of 1973) the ghetto began a couple of blocks from the White House and the Capitol. The downtown commercial district was sort of a sleepy Southern town with cafeterias instead of real restaurants where everyone moved in slow motion in the steamy summer air. The fact that there were these (mostly Roosevelt era) faux-Roman temples lined up along the mall just made the other stuff look worse by contrast. New York at that point had also gone downhill but nothing like this. I was shocked that this was the capital of the greatest nation on earth.

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  25. @Arclight
    Nobody dislikes disorderly lower class blacks than other blacks - google Chris Rock's routine on this.

    I would also agree with the statement in the review that black cops often despise the people they have to police. One of the times when a disagreement turned into a melee involving several dozen of my black neighbors in DC, after the cops showed up to deal with it I was standing near a couple of them (both black) and one just looked at me and said "these people are animals" while the other nodded in agreement. I was somewhat taken aback to hear that, especially a black person saying that to a white resident of a mostly black neighborhood, but over time as I saw more incidents and how the arriving cops conducted myself, I could tell that there was very little empathy for the lower class blacks and often quite a bit of disgust both from the cops and my working class black neighbors.

    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them). Privately they say stuff that would get you banned by the SPLC. The idea that black dysfunctionality is caused by poverty and racism does not wash with them at all because they come from places where almost everyone is poorer than the poorest American black (and there are no white oppressors left to blame). Eric Holder must have imbibed this stuff with his mother’s milk. Perhaps in the future they will have to put Caribbean black babies on the random baby swap carousel to end this kind of multi-generational racism.

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    • Replies: @Arclight
    Very true. I was acquainted with an Ethiopian business owner in the neighborhood, and as you say the comments he made about American blacks were about as blunt and un-PC as I have heard anyone say anywhere. Same thing for a Nigerian guy I knew as well.

    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class and there was a lot of resentment from AAs towards them for it.
    , @Anon
    "Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them)."

    On the other hand, they came to the West to get away from blacks even worse than Amer-blacks.

    Nigeria and Caribbean nations are hellholes of crime, filth, and vileness.

    We will continue to his bogus bitchings like in the two books because blacks are into victim-sanctimony and progs are into virtue vanity.

    Also, it's a way for yuppie progs to assuage their guilt of 'gentrification' by TALKING about it.

    , @E. Rekshun
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks

    Yes, but that's only the ones that emigrate from their homelands. Their kids quickly become black-Americanized, dysfunctional, and anti-White.

  26. @Jack D
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them). Privately they say stuff that would get you banned by the SPLC. The idea that black dysfunctionality is caused by poverty and racism does not wash with them at all because they come from places where almost everyone is poorer than the poorest American black (and there are no white oppressors left to blame). Eric Holder must have imbibed this stuff with his mother's milk. Perhaps in the future they will have to put Caribbean black babies on the random baby swap carousel to end this kind of multi-generational racism.

    Very true. I was acquainted with an Ethiopian business owner in the neighborhood, and as you say the comments he made about American blacks were about as blunt and un-PC as I have heard anyone say anywhere. Same thing for a Nigerian guy I knew as well.

    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class and there was a lot of resentment from AAs towards them for it.

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    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class
     
    Why couldn't they manage it in Africa?
  27. @hyperbola
    If there is anything which should be obvious by now it is that the "elite" can ALWAYS hire front men for their "policies". There were some black front men for "law and order" policies? Come on - look at all the front-man "economists" for organized robbery by the banks and Wall Street.

    It might be useful to remember that banks and narcotics go together for centuries already and both the bankers and drug traffickers are protected by "our" governments.

    The Jewish Opium Trade and Britain
    http://satyricon20.tripod.com/sat33-Sassoon.htm

    Controller Houses Of The East India Company: EIC Series Part IV
    http://greatgameindia.com/controller-houses-east-india-company-eic-series-part-iv/
    East India Company’s trade was divided into many parts and a particular family owned each part. They were given full control over a nation under consideration. They developed local industrial/business house, through which they exploited the independent nations. So for people of any nation, it is the local industrial house that comes to light as the exploiter and not EICs. Even today these Houses control most of the MNCs we see and follow the same Ideology & Methodology as the EICs.

    HSBC, too big to jail, is the new poster child for US two-tiered justice system
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/12/hsbc-prosecution-fine-money-laundering
    DOJ officials unblinkingly insist that the banking giant is too powerful and important to subject to the rule of law... Over the last year, federal investigators found that one of the world's largest banks, HSBC, spent years committing serious crimes, involving money laundering for terrorists; "facilitat[ing] money laundering by Mexican drug cartels"; and "mov[ing] tainted money for Saudi banks tied to terrorist groups". Those investigations uncovered substantial evidence "that senior bank officials were complicit in the illegal activity." As but one example, "an HSBC executive at one point argued that the bank should continue working with the Saudi Al Rajhi bank, which has supported Al Qaeda."...



    These "new" books seem criminally superficial. Perhaps a good example of "divide and conquer" by the elite to keep the plebes from reacting?

    Sassoons, yes, British East Company, absolutely.

    But, don’t neglect the distinguished American families that did well in the opium trade. After all, one of the family members made it all the way to the White House and another came very close:

    http://www.alternet.org/drugs/5-elite-families-fortunes-opium-trade

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  28. @conatus
    "Black residents are a shrinking portion of the city west of the river. 21,000 fewer Black residents live west of the river than before the recession. Just 33 percent of residents living west of the Anacostia River are Black, down from 42 percent in 2007. By contrast, nearly all residents living east of the river are African American – 92 percent – reflecting the legacy of segregation in DC."

    http://www.dcfpi.org/dcs-black-residents-increasingly-live-east-of-the-anacostia-river

    LOL. Blacks aren’t used to being driven out by whites. Always, until recently, the other way round. Like 87% white Anacostia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacostia

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  29. @Arclight
    Very true. I was acquainted with an Ethiopian business owner in the neighborhood, and as you say the comments he made about American blacks were about as blunt and un-PC as I have heard anyone say anywhere. Same thing for a Nigerian guy I knew as well.

    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class and there was a lot of resentment from AAs towards them for it.

    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class

    Why couldn’t they manage it in Africa?

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    • Replies: @Brutusale
    I've read that 80% of Haiti's college graduates emigrate. I imagine that, in the case of a country like Nigeria, we ARE getting a good number of their best and brightest.
  30. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    https://law.yale.edu/james-forman-jr

    He don’t look so black.

    As for Hayes, he doesn’t even look male.

    The problem with both books is Procrusteanism.

    It has this iron premise that BLACK ARE NOBLE INNOCENT VICTIMS, so anything ‘bad’ done to them must be ‘racist’. And everything has to be distorted and squeezed to serve the narrative paradigm or narradigm.
    This is to ignore the context of genes(racial differences are real) and crime.

    And no, it’s not the history of slavery. If whites had enslaved Chinese, these problems wouldn’t exist. Or at much lower level.

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  31. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack D
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them). Privately they say stuff that would get you banned by the SPLC. The idea that black dysfunctionality is caused by poverty and racism does not wash with them at all because they come from places where almost everyone is poorer than the poorest American black (and there are no white oppressors left to blame). Eric Holder must have imbibed this stuff with his mother's milk. Perhaps in the future they will have to put Caribbean black babies on the random baby swap carousel to end this kind of multi-generational racism.

    “Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them).”

    On the other hand, they came to the West to get away from blacks even worse than Amer-blacks.

    Nigeria and Caribbean nations are hellholes of crime, filth, and vileness.

    We will continue to his bogus bitchings like in the two books because blacks are into victim-sanctimony and progs are into virtue vanity.

    Also, it’s a way for yuppie progs to assuage their guilt of ‘gentrification’ by TALKING about it.

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  32. @Ed

    Citing a 1966 University of Michigan study, Forman writes that “a surprising number” of working-class black cops “didn’t like other black people — at least not the poor blacks they tended to police
     
    If you grew up with them and made good you wouldn't like them much either. Dez Bryant's comments recently are a great example.

    I was at an event recently, mostly “talented 10th” folks… and a lot of their lives revolved around avoiding lower class blacks -jobs, where they lived, vacations… they didn’t necessarily want to become assimilated with middle class whites so much as they didn’t want to be dragged down by the undertow of their co-ethnics

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  33. Could you test the donut-shop hypothesis using statistics for unsolved-vs-solved murders? (If the increase is because they know they’ll probably get away with it, the stats should reflect that– even the total murders-solved might drop while total murders increases.)

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  34. @Jack D
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks (meaning most of them). Privately they say stuff that would get you banned by the SPLC. The idea that black dysfunctionality is caused by poverty and racism does not wash with them at all because they come from places where almost everyone is poorer than the poorest American black (and there are no white oppressors left to blame). Eric Holder must have imbibed this stuff with his mother's milk. Perhaps in the future they will have to put Caribbean black babies on the random baby swap carousel to end this kind of multi-generational racism.

    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks

    Yes, but that’s only the ones that emigrate from their homelands. Their kids quickly become black-Americanized, dysfunctional, and anti-White.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    Depends on country (i.e. Nigeria vs Somalia) and where they grew up (around American blacks or not)
  35. @ia
    Right up my alley, Steve.

    « In 1984, Congress repealed the federal Youth Act, in part because there was little evidence that the law was effective. The D.C. Council and then-Mayor Barry expressed shock and disgust. Wilhelmina J. Rolark (D), then-chair of the D.C. Council’s Judiciary Committee, drafted a law for the District. Rolark, who died in 2006, said “extra care” needed to be taken to prevent young black men from being labeled as career criminals.

    « Barry’s administration argued that many violent crimes should be off-limits for Youth Act sentences. But Rolark’s committee said all crimes except for murder and a second violent crime committed while armed would be eligible for Youth Act sentencing.

    « Rolark’s committee passed the bill 3 to 1. John Ray, now a lawyer, was the lone no vote.

    « Youth Act sentences account for about 15 percent of all felony sentences in D.C. Superior Court.

    « Youth Act offenders accounted for 1 in 5 suspects arrested on homicide charges in the District since 2010, a period that has seen a recent surge in homicides and growing public concern about repeat violent offenders.

    « The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016. »

    – Second-chance law for young criminals puts violent offenders back on D.C. streets, Part III, Washington Post, Dec. 3, 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/second-chance-law-for-young-criminals-puts-violent-offenders-back-on-dc-streets/2016/12/02/fcb56c74-8bc1-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html?utm_term=.cdf6a48f6806&wpisrc=nl_lclheads&wpmm=1

    ia wrote:

    ” The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016…”

    What is really astonishing is that there were over 168,000 criminal prosecutions in Washington in less than 10 years. The total population is just a tiny bit over 600,000 of which 50% is black. Thus we have a total black population of approximately 300,000 of which a bit over 50% will be female. The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. Given what we know about crime rates based on race, age and sex it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period.

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    • Replies: @ia
    The really sad thing about self-identified race realists is that they are unable to see what’s right in front of them. Mainly, I suppose, because most are suburbanites who view cities in general and DC in particular as icky, vile places to be avoided. And yet DC is the most ideal place to examine the affects of multiculturalism and feminism. It has been dominated by blacks and feminists (or feminized men) for over 60 years, three generations. Being the capital of the United States of America, it has been seen by liberals as the test tube to prove multiculturalism and feminism viable, and convince themselves and everybody else that all those « gaps » are caused by white racism. But, the whole project has been a catastrophic failure. Blacks act even more violently. The feminized goodwhites always move to the whiter neighborhoods they can afford and create buffer zones using bars, restaurants and yoga studios as cultural barriers (which I think is subconscious) – dharma, micro-brews, wines and foreign names and menus that even college-educated blacks find intimidating.

    Race realists should be pounding liberals who slander them with DC facts but they can’t because they are entering into a zone that repels them.
    , @OldFool
    "The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. .......it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period"

    Hmm. I'm not entirely convinced by that. From what I have heard and read, criminals tend to be career recidivists. If that's so, I'd expect most of the 168,000 crimes to be committed by a _subset_ of the 150,000. Maybe it's only one in three or one in four of the black males that's a crim, not one in two. Even so, one in four would still be a worryingly high proportion.

    We seem to have strayed from the focus of the article, which was to identify who is responsible for putting so many blacks in prison, and why.

    It seems something of a non-question. The obvious (to me) answer is that there are so many blacks in prison because they have committed felonies, been tried and convicted. Why has the crime rate (for aggravated assault) increased ? That's a separate issue.

    Maybe the answer lies in lack of job opportunities, so they turn to crime.
    Maybe the answer lies in gang membership or in a culture that praises violence in adolescents
    Maybe the answer is a lack of deterrence, now there is no death penalty.

    I don't know the answer, but I think this is a more important question.
  36. @Inquiring Mind
    Marion Barry fell victim to his own addiction -- to what?

    His fall from grace seemed to be precipitated by his being alone with a woman other than his wife, who urged him to partake of crack cocaine while his mind was focused on another vice? I would hardly call him addicted to cocaine if he had that something, actually someone else higher in his Maslow Hierarchy of Needs than this drug?

    It is obvious from the video that His Honor did indeed know which end of a crack pipe to smoke. Isn't this one of the fallacies, however, of the 12-Step crowd that every user is an addict?

    The bitch did indeed set him up. I think the powers that be wanted him out.

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  37. @E. Rekshun
    Caribbean blacks and African blacks especially despise lower class American blacks

    Yes, but that's only the ones that emigrate from their homelands. Their kids quickly become black-Americanized, dysfunctional, and anti-White.

    Depends on country (i.e. Nigeria vs Somalia) and where they grew up (around American blacks or not)

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  38. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/15383/apparently-its-now-racist-expect-people-shown-time-amanda-prestigiacomo

    So, we must assume that blacks are less punctual and let them arrive late.

    But isn’t that ‘racist’? It’s saying blacks can’t be as punctual as other races.

    So, it is ‘racist’ to say blacks are less ‘punctual’

    but

    it is also ‘racist’ to expect blacks to be ‘punctual’.

    It’s like the joke with the Jewish guy and chimney.

    Chimney Logic. You can’t win.

    https://aleph.org/resources/the-rabbi-is-in-two-men-come-down-the-same-chimney

    We are all being chimned by PC.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, have never heard of CPT? Colored People Time.
  39. @Anon
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/15383/apparently-its-now-racist-expect-people-shown-time-amanda-prestigiacomo

    So, we must assume that blacks are less punctual and let them arrive late.

    But isn't that 'racist'? It's saying blacks can't be as punctual as other races.

    So, it is 'racist' to say blacks are less 'punctual'

    but

    it is also 'racist' to expect blacks to be 'punctual'.

    It's like the joke with the Jewish guy and chimney.

    Chimney Logic. You can't win.

    https://aleph.org/resources/the-rabbi-is-in-two-men-come-down-the-same-chimney

    We are all being chimned by PC.

    Anon, have never heard of CPT? Colored People Time.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Yep, I heard it.

    You know what's funny?

    It used to be considered 'racist' to say CPT existed. If you said, 'black folks aren't very mindful of time', they would say that is a nasty stereotype. Of course, blacks show up on time like everyone else.

    But now, it is 'racist' to deny CPT and expect blacks to show up on time. 'Shoo, keeping time is white folks time. It be ice people shi*. Black folks be into magic time, creative time, jive time, rhyme time. Time be fluid and jazzy and slick and slack. It be 'racist' to make black folks to conform to rational cold time of white folks'.

    This is rather like the stuff about 'baseball be white and racist, shoo'.
    Again, what was once considered a 'racist' stereotype is now championed as black authenticity. Unlike lame square white folks, when we black folks do something dazzling, we's gots to celebrate and shi*.

    So, I wonder... why did they have a problem with "let the good times roll"?

    We are getting Stereotype Revival or Restoration as the new thang among blacks.
  40. @unit472
    ia wrote:

    " The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016..."

    What is really astonishing is that there were over 168,000 criminal prosecutions in Washington in less than 10 years. The total population is just a tiny bit over 600,000 of which 50% is black. Thus we have a total black population of approximately 300,000 of which a bit over 50% will be female. The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. Given what we know about crime rates based on race, age and sex it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period.

    The really sad thing about self-identified race realists is that they are unable to see what’s right in front of them. Mainly, I suppose, because most are suburbanites who view cities in general and DC in particular as icky, vile places to be avoided. And yet DC is the most ideal place to examine the affects of multiculturalism and feminism. It has been dominated by blacks and feminists (or feminized men) for over 60 years, three generations. Being the capital of the United States of America, it has been seen by liberals as the test tube to prove multiculturalism and feminism viable, and convince themselves and everybody else that all those « gaps » are caused by white racism. But, the whole project has been a catastrophic failure. Blacks act even more violently. The feminized goodwhites always move to the whiter neighborhoods they can afford and create buffer zones using bars, restaurants and yoga studios as cultural barriers (which I think is subconscious) – dharma, micro-brews, wines and foreign names and menus that even college-educated blacks find intimidating.

    Race realists should be pounding liberals who slander them with DC facts but they can’t because they are entering into a zone that repels them.

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  41. During the debates over equal protection of the laws, our commentators always concentrate on the disparate number of black convicts. However, as important as impartiality is to justice, the purpose of laws against various crimes is to protect the citizens from the criminals. If disparate impact is to be used as a justification for increased scrutiny over criminal justice, it should be used to reduce the victimization rates for those against whom the criminals do the most damage. It is encouraging that the New York Times is starting to acknowledge this point of view.

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  42. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, have never heard of CPT? Colored People Time.

    Yep, I heard it.

    You know what’s funny?

    It used to be considered ‘racist’ to say CPT existed. If you said, ‘black folks aren’t very mindful of time’, they would say that is a nasty stereotype. Of course, blacks show up on time like everyone else.

    But now, it is ‘racist’ to deny CPT and expect blacks to show up on time. ‘Shoo, keeping time is white folks time. It be ice people shi*. Black folks be into magic time, creative time, jive time, rhyme time. Time be fluid and jazzy and slick and slack. It be ‘racist’ to make black folks to conform to rational cold time of white folks’.

    This is rather like the stuff about ‘baseball be white and racist, shoo’.
    Again, what was once considered a ‘racist’ stereotype is now championed as black authenticity. Unlike lame square white folks, when we black folks do something dazzling, we’s gots to celebrate and shi*.

    So, I wonder… why did they have a problem with “let the good times roll”?

    We are getting Stereotype Revival or Restoration as the new thang among blacks.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, there was an article on Huffington Black Voices, where the black woman author claimed that she was late because she saw a stoned black man on the subway and it caused such anguish, blah, blah, blah that she missed her stop. And everyday the burden of blackness slowed her down. it is never ending.
  43. @unit472
    ia wrote:

    " The Post wrote software to search the Districts’s online court database to identify all publicly available criminal cases, felony and misdemeanor, 168,265 between January 2007 and November 2016..."

    What is really astonishing is that there were over 168,000 criminal prosecutions in Washington in less than 10 years. The total population is just a tiny bit over 600,000 of which 50% is black. Thus we have a total black population of approximately 300,000 of which a bit over 50% will be female. The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. Given what we know about crime rates based on race, age and sex it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period.

    “The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. …….it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period”

    Hmm. I’m not entirely convinced by that. From what I have heard and read, criminals tend to be career recidivists. If that’s so, I’d expect most of the 168,000 crimes to be committed by a _subset_ of the 150,000. Maybe it’s only one in three or one in four of the black males that’s a crim, not one in two. Even so, one in four would still be a worryingly high proportion.

    We seem to have strayed from the focus of the article, which was to identify who is responsible for putting so many blacks in prison, and why.

    It seems something of a non-question. The obvious (to me) answer is that there are so many blacks in prison because they have committed felonies, been tried and convicted. Why has the crime rate (for aggravated assault) increased ? That’s a separate issue.

    Maybe the answer lies in lack of job opportunities, so they turn to crime.
    Maybe the answer lies in gang membership or in a culture that praises violence in adolescents
    Maybe the answer is a lack of deterrence, now there is no death penalty.

    I don’t know the answer, but I think this is a more important question.

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    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    Maybe the answer lies in lack of job opportunities, so they turn to crime.
    Maybe the answer lies in gang membership or in a culture that praises violence in adolescents
    Maybe the answer is a lack of deterrence, now there is no death penalty.


    Immigr...
  44. @OldFool
    "The black male population of all ages would be a bit less than 150,000. .......it would appear that a majority of black males between adolescence and late middle age are active criminals for there to have been 168,000 plus prosecutions in this period"

    Hmm. I'm not entirely convinced by that. From what I have heard and read, criminals tend to be career recidivists. If that's so, I'd expect most of the 168,000 crimes to be committed by a _subset_ of the 150,000. Maybe it's only one in three or one in four of the black males that's a crim, not one in two. Even so, one in four would still be a worryingly high proportion.

    We seem to have strayed from the focus of the article, which was to identify who is responsible for putting so many blacks in prison, and why.

    It seems something of a non-question. The obvious (to me) answer is that there are so many blacks in prison because they have committed felonies, been tried and convicted. Why has the crime rate (for aggravated assault) increased ? That's a separate issue.

    Maybe the answer lies in lack of job opportunities, so they turn to crime.
    Maybe the answer lies in gang membership or in a culture that praises violence in adolescents
    Maybe the answer is a lack of deterrence, now there is no death penalty.

    I don't know the answer, but I think this is a more important question.

    Maybe the answer lies in lack of job opportunities, so they turn to crime.
    Maybe the answer lies in gang membership or in a culture that praises violence in adolescents
    Maybe the answer is a lack of deterrence, now there is no death penalty.

    Immigr…

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  45. @Anon
    Yep, I heard it.

    You know what's funny?

    It used to be considered 'racist' to say CPT existed. If you said, 'black folks aren't very mindful of time', they would say that is a nasty stereotype. Of course, blacks show up on time like everyone else.

    But now, it is 'racist' to deny CPT and expect blacks to show up on time. 'Shoo, keeping time is white folks time. It be ice people shi*. Black folks be into magic time, creative time, jive time, rhyme time. Time be fluid and jazzy and slick and slack. It be 'racist' to make black folks to conform to rational cold time of white folks'.

    This is rather like the stuff about 'baseball be white and racist, shoo'.
    Again, what was once considered a 'racist' stereotype is now championed as black authenticity. Unlike lame square white folks, when we black folks do something dazzling, we's gots to celebrate and shi*.

    So, I wonder... why did they have a problem with "let the good times roll"?

    We are getting Stereotype Revival or Restoration as the new thang among blacks.

    Anon, there was an article on Huffington Black Voices, where the black woman author claimed that she was late because she saw a stoned black man on the subway and it caused such anguish, blah, blah, blah that she missed her stop. And everyday the burden of blackness slowed her down. it is never ending.

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  46. Q. Who Put All Those Minority Voters in Prison?
    A. Other Blacks.

    Incarceration disenfranchisement and mandatory minimums must have been invented by whites.

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  47. Successful blacks recall with pride the many severe beatings they received as children, without which they most surely would have become gangsters. Japanese boys are never beaten; they are occasionally scolded for bad behavior, but most of the time their mothers dote on them.

    Blacks mate constantly and promiscuously, which puts them at very high risk for STDs, and Africa’s population is exploding. A large portion of Japanese report having no interest in sex.

    While Africans only recently left the jungle, Japanese have spent centuries breeding for docility and obedience. On the tangs of old katanas is scratched a test report “This sword cut through five bodies [of beheaded criminals] in one stroke.” That’s a lot of high-T behavior getting selected out of the gene pool, but low-T men can still marry, reproduce, work, and fight wars if ordered to do so. When Gen. MacArthur abolished that coercive social matrix, Japan’s birthrate immediately collapsed and never recovered.

    Americans still firmly believe, against all evidence, that all people are created equal and should therefore live together and be subject to the same laws. Why Iraq, Syria, and Libya could be liberal democracies if we just got rid of their evil dictators!

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  48. It is my opinion that the civil rights movement was really nothing more than mulattoes trying to (and successfully) displacing white people as the rulers of “blue gum” blacks.

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  49. @ia

    African immigrants in my area generally managed to be middle class
     
    Why couldn't they manage it in Africa?

    I’ve read that 80% of Haiti’s college graduates emigrate. I imagine that, in the case of a country like Nigeria, we ARE getting a good number of their best and brightest.

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