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The Guardian dutifully stays on Hillary’s script this morning, even as the arranged narrative collapses around them:
Alicia Machado, Miss Universe weight-shamed by Trump, speaks out for Hillary Clinton
Clinton made the former Miss Universe turned actor and activist a talking point of the first debate, criticizing Trump’s public comments about her weight
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But Anderson Cooper of CNN can’t pass up a huge juicy story about Miss Universe and … murder (or at least allegations that Hillary’s new best friend forever was the getaway driver in a 1998 attempted murder at a funeral in Venezuela):
By Daniella Diaz, CNN
Updated 6:32 AM ET, Wed September 28, 2016Washington (CNN)Former “Miss Universe” Alicia Machado struck back Tuesday against insults hurled at her by Donald Trump, saying that he was “aggressive” and “really rude.”
Machado, who represented Venezuela in Trump’s 1996 “Miss Universe” competition said that Trump called her “Miss Housekeeping” and “Miss Piggy” when she gained weight after winning the beauty pageant.
“I know what I left with him and he knows, too. And he was really aggressive. He was really rude. He was a bad person with me,” she told CNN’s Anderson Cooper on “AC360.” “That is the story that I need to share with my community. We cannot accept no more insults for my Latin community. No more insults for the women. I know very well Mr. Trump and I can see the same person that I met 20 years ago.”
At the presidential debate on Monday, Clinton referenced Machado to make a bigger point to Trump about his public treatment of women — which has become a key campaign issue that hits on his vulnerabilities with both Hispanics and women.
[Hillary] continued: “Donald, she has a name. Her name is Alicia Machado. And she has become a US citizen and you can bet she is going to vote this November.”
Cooper also asked Machado about reports that she was accused of driving a getaway car from a murder scene soon after the “Miss Universe” pageant.
“There are reports that Trump surrogates tonight have been referencing and been pointing to … about an incident in 1998 in Venezuela where you were accused of driving a getaway car from a murder scene. You were never charged with this. The judge in the case also said you threatened to kill him after he indicted your boyfriend for the attempted murder. I just want to give you a chance to respond these reports,” Cooper said.
Machado responded: “He can say whatever he wants to say. I don’t care. You know, I have my past, of course everybody has a past. And I’m no saint girl. But that is not the point now … (Trump) was really rude with me, he tried to destroy my self esteem. And now I’m a voice in the Latin community. I’m in a great moment in my life and I have a very clear life. And I can show my taxes.”
Earlier Tuesday, Trump refused to back down from his criticism of Machado, telling “Fox and Friends” in an interview that she had “gained a massive amount of weight and it was a real problem.”
“She was the winner and you know, she gained a massive amount of weight and it was a real problem. We had a real problem,” Trump said. “Not only that, her attitude, and we had a real problem with her, so Hillary went back into the years and she found this girl — this was many years ago. And found the girl and talked about her like she was Mother Theresa. And it wasn’t quite that way but that’s OK. Hillary has to do what she has to do.”
This chick was in that NY Times story 5 months ago. I am surprised the Trump haters waited until now to bring her up again. Why are we granting citizenship to people in trouble with the law? Is this an example of Obama Administration vetting in action?
Given the volatility of the "opinion" of the masses, time is crucial in the pre-election period timing.
For example: if a murder like that preceding the vote on Brexit shortly is to happen, it will happen in the last 15 days. It's then that it is most useful; it would be of no use months in advance.
They eat ten times more than a normal person, they get sick at higher rates with worse problems, thus they need medical attention and blortwagons (what my youngest calls those wide scooters for morbidly obese Michelin people).
They vote the way you tell them to, they live in hives till they burn them down and need the construction and banking/finance industries to build new ones, and they like cheap shiny things.
Their stupidity ensures they will always need a Mommy Class of social workers, teachers, and lawyers to Champion their interests in the name of Higher Principles.
It's a win win win win win for Wall St. and the globalistas!
Wow, is Trump going mafioso? Nothing personal, it’s just business.
Lead story on LATimes Politics now:
Gosh.
It’s just a coincidence that she just got citizenship despite seeming to have naturalization checks disqualifiers, and then goes on to campaign for Hillary, right?
It likely has more to do with a lax immigration not properly investigating her past brushes with the law in Venezuela or getting a pass because of her illustrious past as Miss Universe.
I mean, really: Trump could not have designed a more perfect case in point, for what Democrats do with immigration, than this woman. Hillary finds a repugnant alien from a Socialist hellhole, who obviously does not have the qualities we look for in a citizen, but who is ready to bring her Socialist country's narcissistic sense of personal entitlement to all the riches of our country; said alien then proceeds to shill for the treasonous political elites who hooked her up with access to native whites' social and financial capital, promising to vote against the idea that America and its people should come first; when we are not sufficiently obsequious in this process, they have the temerity to spit in our faces and call us racists.
This is obviously illustrative of our immigration problem in its entirety: we should thank Hillary for making our point for us, and publicize the fact everywhere. I think Trump could be almost as angry and hostile to Hillary as he wanted on this topic in the next debate, with excellent results. I keep hearing people say that Hillary is actually quite smart and has been seasoned by years of political manoeuvering, and that Trump should beware her political acumen. That sounds like it should be true, but I keep concluding that, in fact, she and the rest of the Left have simply never faced real opposition. If one is willing to strike back, they have left themselves open to any number of devastating attacks.
Saw this tweet about the debate and found it most accurate:
“There’s rarely been a more apt metaphor for American history than watching a well-qualified woman and an intelligent black man try to corral a screaming white man.”
White men must be neutralized pronto for the survival of the country
I guess George Washington Carver would have been allowed through your gauntlet, so at least we'd still have peanut butter.
NBC’s Today show just ran a lengthy interview of Machado, leading with a clip of Clinton at the debate, “Donald, she has a name. Her name is Alicia Machado. And she has become a US citizen and you can bet she is going to vote this November.” The sympathetic segment included the most heart-rending parts of Clinton’s TV ad featuring the former beauty queen’s abuse at the hands of the monster.
I guess NBC’s newshounds don’t watch CNN. No mention of the getaway car, the threats to the judge, the engagement-wrecking sex tape, or serving as baby mama for the cocaine cartel kingpin.
When it comes to new U.S. citizens, I’m not certain that Venezuela is sending us their best.
There’s a rumor that Today has scored a major coup in the Morning News Show ratings wars. They’ve recruited Haven Monahan as the newest Senior National Correspondent.
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Great coincidences in campaign reporting: The Guardian & Cosmo sent reporters just before debate to profile Machado, then pubbed today.
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@Trillburne Not hats off to Cosmo. Hats off to the Clinton people for getting a publication to so brazenly collude with a campaign.
Too bad we didn’t have a fence to keep out this useless eater Venezuelan beauty queen.
USA- not just Mexico and Guatemala’s dumping ground anymore!
Now we are the dumping ground for all of Latin America, for all the flotsam and jetsam washing up from Venezuela and everywhere south of the United States of America.
Salon : Calling people racist is good for your health :
Ah yes; the unspoken paradigm of our age – “yeah, okay, so I murdered a few muhfugguhs….so? Murder just a evvyday thing that happen, nome sane? ….but racism! That shit is juss sick and wrong!”
Hopefully the Martians reconstructing the smoldering ashes of human civilization will make note of this, since the last remaining humans in charge seemed determined not to. (Which kinda led to the smoldering ashes, but that’s another story……..oh no, wait: same story.)
There--fixed it for you.
This is Western disease. The Chinese have a raft of problems--like building a high trust society out of their nationalism and soft landing their demographics. But they are laughing their ass off. In a few generations the West dies and they'll slaughter or enslave the blacks and muzzies--maybe bioengineer some race specific diseases. Hard to predict. But they aren't going to fall for this suicidal nonsense.
This story about Alicia Machado is backfirinig on Hillary and the MSM so badly it makes the birtherism affair look like a political masterstroke by comparison.
We all have a past. I’ve been a getaway driver for assassins and threatened to kill judges many times – who hasn’t? Now can we get back to Donald Trump and his fat shaming. Fat shaming is the most important issue facing America today.
The Conservative Tree House has some great stuff on this. Re being an accomplice to murder, she says to Anderson Cooper: “That happened 20 years ago!” Also hard core porn, drug lord’s concubine etc.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/28/oh-dear-clintons-latest-campaign-surrogate-is-a-murder-accomplice-hard-core-porn-star-and-drug-lord-concubine/
It used to be quite common in my house that I would read something and declare that we had hit peak liberalism and the only way was up. Eventually I learned that it’s never the peak, but, still: this has to be the peak, right?
Well, she’s a piker in terms of alleged assassinations when compared to Hillary.
Is “weight-shaming” unacceptable again? I only ask because in this fortnight’s “Private Eye” (satirical UK magazine) there’s a cartoon suggesting that Trump might crash through the floor of the debate podium on account of his “17 stone” weight.
This begs the question why Trump didn’t remember to mention her criminal past during the debate. He obviously remembered the weight gain, you would think he would have remembered that she threatened to kill a judge and drove a getaway car. It would have been an easy pivot into, “Hillary calls you deplorable for supporting me, but she supports violent criminals, rioters, looters, etc.” He really did have a bad night.
Has Alicia Machado been living in the U.S. since 1998 and still speaks English this poorly?
She’s a great example of Hillardy’s strategy: invite and pay foreigners to vote for her.
This morning on Fox News, the announcer said an upcoming segment was going to examine whether Trump’s comments about Alicia Machado were blown up out of proportion.
If Ms. Machado put on 60 pounds, as CNN reported, I’d say she blew herself up out of proportion.
The focus should be on how does someone of such obviously low moral character become a U.S. citizen in the first place? What skills is she bringing to our country and how are we better off that she is living here?
Loving the loaded language – she’s speaking out. In other words speaking truth to power, this brave, humble girl will not be silenced!
And it was "pent up," because God knows she's never had an opportunity express this grievance earlier.
Heck, I’m about 40 lb.s overweight, and I’m not offended. The number one reason people become Miss Universe is because of their looks, so when their looks go south due to unhealthy lifestyle choices, guess what…the admiration they once received turns into disdain. It’s all part of the same phenomenon….a career choice that’s based heavily (no pun intended) on good looks is also undone by bad looks. Surprise surprise.
Interesting about the attempted murder thing. And she essentially admitted it.
You’re being wayyy too forgiving of Anderson Cooper. Far from being an intrepid reporter unable to pass up a “huge juicy story,” he’s intentionally being easy on Machado to make this appear a non-story.
It’s manipulation based on: (a) the public forming their emotional reactions based on social proof (Anderson’s own muted response) and, (b) making sure the Dems side of the story is out there first (as far as the mass audience is concerned) resulting in an anchoring.
Just look at his language:
Soo passive. Where is that DA-cross-examination voice that TV hosts love to use? The phrasing is a subtle insinuation (one that’s plausibly deniable, to boot) that the allegations are merely unverifiable smears from opposition political operatives.
Hard hitting!! What was the follow up?
Trump needs to respond that Machado is precisely the type of person he is referring to when he says that Latin America isn’t sending the US their best. And the fact that Team Clinton could feel comfortable trotting her out is emblematic of their tone deafness regarding the immigration situation and shows a callous disregard for the opinions of millions of Americans.
There seems to be another complication brewing, which is that there are numerous hardcore porn videos featuring an “Alicia Machado”, who is billed as a former Miss Venezuela or somesuch. Not gonna link (for obvious reasons), and I didn’t watch them, but the lady in the stills bears a striking resemblance.
These Alicia Machado stories are hysterically funny; it’s amazing that Hillary would use this individual to promote her campaign. Who came up with this idea, anyway? Bill?
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone’s expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it’s only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she’s very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it’s fair to mention — but not to link — the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it’s not fair to discuss someone’s personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it’s not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn’t watch the debate because when I heard Hillary’s voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can’t imagine listening to HRC’s voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald’s infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald’s part. It was an appeal — perhaps we might say a naked appeal — for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia’s appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn’t care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the “Sisters Unite!” nature of Hillary’s debate night appeal. And that’s worthwhile.
I think its the duty of men on the alt-right, or just plain old responsible white guys of republican virtue, to stop coddling political nonsense in their women.
Lay it out: "This is a war against white people, against Western civilization--against everything i inherited from my ancestors and hope to pass down to our civilization. If you vote against our civilization you're voting against me and our children's future. It is not acceptable and i'm not going to tolerate it. It's a bright line for me."
I'll leave the question of a spanking and what follows it to you. But it's long past time that white men stopped tolerating adolescent political stupidity in their women.
I’m not clear on how this helps Trump. He didn’t disqualify her because she was a criminal, he made fun of her looks. If she did the crime before she entered his competition doesn’t it make him look kinda stupid?
Didn't you commit attempted murder 18 years ago?
Yes of course I did! Everyone has a past! That's so far in my past its ancient history!
I shouldn’t have been surprised that it came to this, yet I was.
First Female Presidential Candidate during a televised debate: “Don’t vote for him! He called some chick fat 20 years ago!”
Women’s suffrage was a terrible idea. Even Susan B. Anthony would be embarrassed by this.
Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment now.
Unz, are you listening?
‘I’m not shy to tell them how I feel,’ young black girl says of wrenching Charlotte testimony
I was hoping her wrenching testimony would be an appeal to her coethnics to stop a’lootin and a’shootin, but would it have been in WaPo if it was? Have they no shame (rhetorical question)?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/27/a-young-black-girls-devastating-testimony-to-charlotte-police-and-city-leaders
(Oh, and ‘protesters’ at the council HQ chanted “Hands down, shoot back”)
Unfortunately in a society devoid of any reasoning ability, comments like Machado’s here actually have traction with many, many people.
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
I disagree. In some cases it is totally fair to discuss someone’s personal life, as Dr. Fleming argued: we should not hesitate to mock those to whom mockery is due. People who seek and revel in infamy are throwing themselves out there for public appraisal and we should have no sympathy for their ilk. It wouldn’t have been right to trash Rosalyn Carter, for example, but Hillary “Two for the Price of One” Clinton was a perfectly legitimate target, from the start. So was Princess Di. So is Alicia Marchado.
I should add parenthetically that the many photographs of Alicia Machado’s good looks can and should be photoshopped into HRC 2016 Election posters, with or without appropriate quotations. It may not change anyone’s vote, but it will make me laugh. And that’s all that matters.
Yes. Fat-shaming is the issue, not single mothers with low impulse control getting citizenship. Amazing. Why can Miss Piggy vote?
First Female Presidential Candidate during a televised debate: "Don't vote for him! He called some chick fat 20 years ago!"
Women's suffrage was a terrible idea. Even Susan B. Anthony would be embarrassed by this.
Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment now.
I wanted to “Agree” this, but I’m saving my one, single, lonely button chance to “Troll” Tiny Duck.
Unz, are you listening?
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
Yes. In fact, I’d say Mucho-do’s overflowing everyone’s expectations. I know she’s positively busting out of my stereotypes. My preconceived notions have no more room for her to grow.
But she is also a very good example of why it's a really, really bad idea to let yourself be overrun with immigrants at all.
When Alicia Machado of Venezuela was named Miss Universe nine months ago, no one could accuse her of being the size of the universe. But as her universe expanded, so did she, putting on nearly 60 pounds: CNN – January 1997
http://www.mediaite.com/online/old-cnn-article-got-in-a-few-weight-jabs-at-expanding-miss-universe-trump-insulted/
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/29/fringe/miss.universe/
Too bad there are no comments allowed on the CNN article iSteve linked.
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/29/fringe/miss.universe/
Turkey to complete Syria border wall within 5 months, official says
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUSKCN11Y1MB
Well, there you go. First, evidence Trump is not Hitler. Second, irony that handing the victory to a swarthy South American over a Swede, Swiss, or Southern Belle is now coming back to bite him.
I wonder if it was more like “you need to lose weight if you don’t want to look like Miss Housekeeping rather than Miss Universe.” Rather different.
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That’s ma boy!!
Like most folks, I’d never heard of Ms. Machado prior to her coming forward with allegations against Trump. I for one am glad she did.It gave me the incentive to do a google image search. Back in the day she had an absolutely phenomenal rack.
Hm… What would one rather be called: a “homophobic, racist, and misogynistic deplorable” or “fatty?”
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
You’re wife is big on HRC? And you accept that? And you can’t/won’t fix her? Bright boy like you? Word to the wise:Remember the Rule of Thumb!
Why oh why are you guys marrying liberals? I just don't get it. Please tell the younger men in your life to find conservative women.
But perhaps you're not social conservatives, which is the conservatism that really matters to women.
This is an exquisite piece of narrative collapse (sort of – I guess her dark past doesn’t directly undermine the attacks on Trump for criticising her, but it does show what kind of characters Clinton’s side are happy to get into bed with to score even marginal points against Trump.)
More generally, I can’t share the enthusiasm for Trump. I’m glad a candidate is finally broaching issues of immigration and globalism, but I’m really sorry it’s him because he simply isn’t an appropriate person to hold high office (not saying Clinton is either, but that’s not the point). Perhaps he will open the door for someone better to run with the same issues next time.
Pretty soon Beauty Queen will be labelled a Hate Symbol by the ADL:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/us/pepe-the-frog-hate-symbol-trnd/index.html
Indeed, I look forward to the day when every word in the English language is a hate symbol.
An ironic part of the shaming obsession of the left (only for protected groups and attributes though) is the amount of criticism there was of Trump being overweight after he released his medical information.
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
Judging by Monica, Bubba does like ‘em big. You can’t take the Arkansas out of the Arkansan.
WH interns than her at the time? It's not like he had unlimited freedom of movement and unlimited time to bag hotter girls. The presidency brings a major curtailing of freedom in many aspects. I imagine Monica was really the hottest option he had at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JphDdGV2TU
They finally have someone who can track down Omar Mateen’s wife.
Thanks for that. Here are some links if anyone wants to follow up:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/old-cnn-article-got-in-a-few-weight-jabs-at-expanding-miss-universe-trump-insulted/
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/29/fringe/miss.universe/
Too bad there are no comments allowed on the CNN article iSteve linked.
I almost wish Trump would have said, “I’ve called men a lot worse things, Sweetie.”
And then maybe go on to point out that 99% of the soldiers killed in the damn Iraq war she voted for have been what her most ardent followers like to refer to as “males.” So don’t compare my decision to tweak an irresponsible beauty contest winner 20 years ago to the seriously damaging decisions you have made in your years of “public service.”
More generally, I can't share the enthusiasm for Trump. I'm glad a candidate is finally broaching issues of immigration and globalism, but I'm really sorry it's him because he simply isn't an appropriate person to hold high office (not saying Clinton is either, but that's not the point). Perhaps he will open the door for someone better to run with the same issues next time.
If Trump doesn’t win, there may not be a next time, after Hillary has elected a new people. Keep this in mind when you vote in November. Some hypothetical wonderful guy would be a better candidate than Trump but that man doesn’t seem to exist – at least he was not among the 18 other Republicans who ran.
Speaking of loaded language. Here’s the opening of the Editorial Steve linked to in a different entry:
Powerful!
And it was “pent up,” because God knows she’s never had an opportunity express this grievance earlier.
OT: Angelo Codevilla is back with another excellent essay saying we are probably done as a republic no matter who wins. http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/after-the-republic/
Trump called me fat 20 years ago!
Didn’t you commit attempted murder 18 years ago?
Yes of course I did! Everyone has a past! That’s so far in my past its ancient history!
Hell you’d probably need the jaws of life to take the Arkansan out of the Venezuelan.
It seems that Ms. Machado has a problem with la verdad. Megyn Kelly on Fox last night asked her about a contradiction about when she got her “eating disorder.” In 1997 Machado told WaPo she was already barfing up her arepas in preparation for the pageant.
Machado stays on the “Trump bad” message:
“I’m heeere because I know dis person and he nada good person. Dad is de poyn.”
She did it in 1998, and she entered the competition in 1996, so it doesn’t make him look bad at all. He should transition this into an attack on our immigration system, and demand that we only let in people with clean backgrounds.
Yes, another guy here outing himself as married to a liberal… if that’s what he meant.
Why oh why are you guys marrying liberals? I just don’t get it. Please tell the younger men in your life to find conservative women.
But perhaps you’re not social conservatives, which is the conservatism that really matters to women.
Did Hillary pronounce it “Uleeshia Muchadoe” or “Äleesya Mächädo”? It’s become de rigeur on the left to pronounce Spanish names in a Spanish accent (or as close as you can muster).
"There's rarely been a more apt metaphor for American history than watching a well-qualified woman and an intelligent black man try to corral a screaming white man."
White men must be neutralized pronto for the survival of the country
Maybe someday YOU will have a white woman of your very own. Wouldn’t that be wonderful? Someone to talk to,someone nice,not like those women of color who are so mean!
Given Hillary’s well known temper I expect someone in HRC HQ is getting a tongue lashing today, and I don’t mean that in a good way.
Neither is whether a presidential candidate was rude to a Miss Universe contestant. You can’t invoke the fallacy of attacking the messenger (Though in this case her character might be a reason for somebody being ‘rude’ or her deciding somebody was rude to her) when you’re engaged in pointless ad hominem attacks.
And ultimately to come back to Trump and his shooting a man on 5th Avenue comments, what is even the point, exactly? Were people voting for Trump on the basis of him being a perfect gentleman?
Was the man who married a much younger Russian model getting votes on the presumption of his feminist credentials?
Can you even be a Miss Universe contestant and be a feminist?
I also can’t be the only one who thinks if the male equivalent of this women was being advertised as a noble new citizen with pictures from instagram of him looking like a jackass this story wouldn’t have gotten very far. She took a picture of her with her new passport like she was 15.
A little different take at the time. “Best thing that ever happened to me.”
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=266&dat=19970611&id=EvMrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=52wFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5092,4043792
The Miss Universe contest in question was in 1996. The murder allegations are from 1998. RIF.
Check the timeline, please.
In an earlier comment, I pointed to this passage from the BBC back in the day on Machado:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/50862.stm
It would be very useful to know exactly when she made that comment about choosing to eat with gay abandon. If it was indeed immediately after her winning, who can possibly say that Trump was unfair to “fat shame” her, when she herself announced her full intention to get fat, damn the consequences? Getting fat would have been her explicit intention, and all her claims that her treatment at Trump’s hands made her develop eating disorders just so much BS.
I think the point is important, because most educated women understand perfectly well that one doesn’t let oneself go like that — only the “white trash” do that. Machado is going to fall completely out of their sympathy if they see her for the out-of-control trash she is.
If the Ds want to be the party of beauty queens, let them. Trump can represent the rest of women just trying to make a good living and feed their families.
It’s just a coincidence that she just got citizenship despite seeming to have naturalization checks disqualifiers, and then goes on to campaign for Hillary, right?
It likely has more to do with a lax immigration not properly investigating her past brushes with the law in Venezuela or getting a pass because of her illustrious past as Miss Universe.
I think she leaves it to her running mate to do the Spanish accent. I’ll bet you Hillary was the kind of girl who took French.
On the one hand, there’s Clinton who thinks it’s nifty that Machado is a new citizen and one of her supporters. On the other hand, there is Trump who has done as much as anyone to normalize depravity and make people like Miss Machado a regular, inescapable feature of our culture. Seven demerits to Mrs. Clinton, and fifty to Mr. Trump.
Brace yourself folks, media panic might reach a fever pitch later this week heading into next week . Clinton may not get the bump the media was looking for. Trump up one in LAT tracking, Clinton up +4 in Morning Consult but some debate about how much of it is a real bump or sampling error.
I assume this clip of Trump on CNN defending her is around “Some people when they have pressure eat too much. Like me. Like Alicia,” said Donald Trump, the executive producer of the Miss Universe Pageant.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/29/fringe/miss.universe/
He actually comes across as quite charming in this video, even if the whole spectacle of watching some pageant chick work out after gaining weight is unpleasant to watch.
Nonetheless, he seems much nicer than anyone else appeared to be in this situation.
Hopefully the Martians reconstructing the smoldering ashes of human civilization will make note of this, since the last remaining humans in charge seemed determined not to. (Which kinda led to the smoldering ashes, but that's another story........oh no, wait: same story.)
Hopefully the Chinese reconstructing the smoldering ashes of Western civilization …
There–fixed it for you.
This is Western disease. The Chinese have a raft of problems–like building a high trust society out of their nationalism and soft landing their demographics. But they are laughing their ass off. In a few generations the West dies and they’ll slaughter or enslave the blacks and muzzies–maybe bioengineer some race specific diseases. Hard to predict. But they aren’t going to fall for this suicidal nonsense.
Yes, exactly. I hope Trump, his campaign and supporters will jump all over this and help it to blow up in Clinton’s face.
I mean, really: Trump could not have designed a more perfect case in point, for what Democrats do with immigration, than this woman. Hillary finds a repugnant alien from a Socialist hellhole, who obviously does not have the qualities we look for in a citizen, but who is ready to bring her Socialist country’s narcissistic sense of personal entitlement to all the riches of our country; said alien then proceeds to shill for the treasonous political elites who hooked her up with access to native whites’ social and financial capital, promising to vote against the idea that America and its people should come first; when we are not sufficiently obsequious in this process, they have the temerity to spit in our faces and call us racists.
This is obviously illustrative of our immigration problem in its entirety: we should thank Hillary for making our point for us, and publicize the fact everywhere. I think Trump could be almost as angry and hostile to Hillary as he wanted on this topic in the next debate, with excellent results. I keep hearing people say that Hillary is actually quite smart and has been seasoned by years of political manoeuvering, and that Trump should beware her political acumen. That sounds like it should be true, but I keep concluding that, in fact, she and the rest of the Left have simply never faced real opposition. If one is willing to strike back, they have left themselves open to any number of devastating attacks.
First Female Presidential Candidate during a televised debate: "Don't vote for him! He called some chick fat 20 years ago!"
Women's suffrage was a terrible idea. Even Susan B. Anthony would be embarrassed by this.
Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment now.
Is this really more ridiculous than anything any male candidates say?
This didn't happen in a primary.
The charge wasn't leveled with an ironic smirk, rather it was delivered with sincere (well, for Hillary) outrage.
It happened in a goddamned presidential debate.
This was the "knock-out blow" saved for the end of the fight.Yes, that's more ridiculous than anything any male candidates say.
With the possible exception of trying to out-cuck each other for Israel.
"There's rarely been a more apt metaphor for American history than watching a well-qualified woman and an intelligent black man try to corral a screaming white man."
White men must be neutralized pronto for the survival of the country
You’re right Tiny, just think how hunky dory everything would be if we’d neutralized Aristotle, Euclid, Archimedes, Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, Gauss, Mendelyev, Einstein, Edison, Tesla, Planck, Berners-Lee, etc. before they’d inflicted their misery on humanity.
I guess George Washington Carver would have been allowed through your gauntlet, so at least we’d still have peanut butter.
Black lies matter!
This leads back to the question, why do they keep picking such dubious poster boys and girls, over and over? Back in the day, they would carefully vet their symbolic martyrs like Rosa Parks, precisely so that they would not be discredited along with the martyr. But nowadays, it’s Jackies, Crystal Mangums and Gentle Giants all the way down. Khan Jr. was an exception which is one reason why he was so effective.
What would be unforgivable to me as an employer is the lack of background vetting. Hasn't HRC's staff ever heard of Google? Anybody who can use a browser could have found out in half an hour what a nutcase adventuress (love that word) this babe is, but no doubt HRC's staff think they are so much smarter than everyone else.
1) Their primary constituent base doesn't care. They don't like X and anything that slings mud at X makes these people "feel good," or outraged, and is therefore more likely to get them to the polls.
2) The second reason is that roughly 85% of the media, give or take, is just going to ignore any negative news about the designated victim, no matter how bad it is, so there's a good chance people who are so lazy and dumb as to be "undecided" at this point will never be exposed to the unraveling.
I think there are three related things:
1) With blacks the fantasy is so far along *any* questioning, any demanding of standards is "racist".
2) With blacks and shootings, there simply aren't many "good victims". Back in the day you might have found the odd racist cop grabbing up some innocent kid and slapping him around to close a case. That simply isn't true today. Most blacks with their stuff together *comply* with the cops like the rest of us do. There is the odd case--like Sailer's case in the parking garage--where an innocent is killed through police incompetence. But when you start with blacks shot by police its just so overwhelmingly non-compliant assholes, that that's what you get. You couldn't gin up a "movement" if it was the four or five cases a year of genuine black innocents shot by cop panic\incompetence.
3) The victim narrative trumps all. The left is so incredibly attached to this victim narrative of the world, that they honestly feel it trumps *everything*. Hillary has been pretty incompetent both administratively and in policy results (and just evil in her impulses), but it's not like she can't assemble staff to do basic political work--Senate, 2008 run, nomination now. So i doubt that no one on their staff googled Machado and found out she's a hot mess. No, they just *did not care*, she's a victim of our white male enemy--Trump. Good 'nough.
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Short answer: As American society has gotten more fair, there are fewer and fewer numbers of folks from "historically disadvantaged groups" who are actually *innocent* victims. The ones whose lives are screwed up are usually ... screwups, the ones who whine are usually ... whiners. But at the same time the fairer things have gotten the more the left must rant about how unfair they are, so the demand for victims is actually increasing. Supply and demand ... "Gentle Giants", "Alicia Machado".
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
Your comment should be read by every young sucker thinking about committing himself to a ball and chain. Any HRC supporter would never be promoted by me past midnight booty call, if that.
Were there any hotter
WH interns than her at the time? It’s not like he had unlimited freedom of movement and unlimited time to bag hotter girls. The presidency brings a major curtailing of freedom in many aspects. I imagine Monica was really the hottest option he had at the time.
She was a slump-buster.
She butchered it. A Spanish speaker would have heard “Macharo.” A “d” between two vowels in Spanish is pronounced like the “th” in the English word “the.”
Unz, are you listening?
IIRC you have managed to “Troll” TD more than once already. I think TD has a big lead in the “Troll” button stakes so it will be interesting to see what happens. I think we need a real time “Troll” leaderboard.
They figure nobody of importance will fact-check them … Maybe Republicans will, but who believes anything they say?
Am I wrong, or was this a contractual issue? If so, it is “just business”, and Trump is not required to be nice if one of his suppliers does not fulfill their obligations.
I want a President that will act the same way.
First time I’ve ever heard the term “weight-shamed”. Is saying “fat-shamed” and “fat” politically incorrect now?
What about Emmett Till?
I’m guessing Trump demanded rough sex and things got very messy.
I would say that Machado fulfills everyone's expectations about trashy Latinas, and I think it's only fair to draw attention to her past activities. Also, she's very good looking in her various stages of undress. I also think it's fair to mention -- but not to link -- the references to a sex tape.
In a way, it's not fair to discuss someone's personal life; ad hominem, and so on. But Hillary, and apparently with the cooperation of Ms Machado, chose to select her as a paragon of what the US is and should be. Therefore it's not only fair to discuss the public career of that paragon, it is necessary.
I didn't watch the debate because when I heard Hillary's voice (my wife is big on HRC) I told my spouse I had to run the extra car to keep the battery up so I just drove around for half an hour.
I can't imagine listening to HRC's voice for the next four to eight years.
However, the point is that therefore I first heard about Alicia and Donald's infamous fat shaming while scrolling my twitter feed the next morning. So naturally this appeared to be a gaffe on Donald's part. It was an appeal -- perhaps we might say a naked appeal -- for the woman vote, since every woman feels that she is fat, and fat shaming is a political issue. But just as every woman feels that she should lose a few pounds, every woman is going to be envious of a woman of Alicia's appearance, and moreover, the vast majority of woman are not going to approve of a woman who has made a career out of showing off her body. And that is why this further discussion is necessary.
As a guy, despite the obvious pleasant scenery, I couldn't care less. However, the publicizing of the career of Ms Machado in the wake of the debate has I believe completely neutralized the "Sisters Unite!" nature of Hillary's debate night appeal. And that's worthwhile.
Mr. Moore, with all due respect you should fix this.
I think its the duty of men on the alt-right, or just plain old responsible white guys of republican virtue, to stop coddling political nonsense in their women.
Lay it out: “This is a war against white people, against Western civilization–against everything i inherited from my ancestors and hope to pass down to our civilization. If you vote against our civilization you’re voting against me and our children’s future. It is not acceptable and i’m not going to tolerate it. It’s a bright line for me.”
I’ll leave the question of a spanking and what follows it to you. But it’s long past time that white men stopped tolerating adolescent political stupidity in their women.
I had this difficult conversation w my mother. My wife is paleocon or she would've be my wife.
Sloppy staff work. They stop looking when they find the first person who fits the narrative.
What would be unforgivable to me as an employer is the lack of background vetting. Hasn’t HRC’s staff ever heard of Google? Anybody who can use a browser could have found out in half an hour what a nutcase adventuress (love that word) this babe is, but no doubt HRC’s staff think they are so much smarter than everyone else.
Of course it’s business. Do you think he’s wrong?
I would be very upset if the winner of my beauty pageant gained 60 pounds in the months after winning, while promoting my contest.
Miss Machado is a very good example of why it is better to be overrun with Latino\a immigrants than Muslim ones.
But she is also a very good example of why it’s a really, really bad idea to let yourself be overrun with immigrants at all.
Aside from not having done the proper vetting, it’s also an example of typical overpreparation by Hillary & her endless interns. It’s one thing to prepare the battle space by having articles lined up to be printed the next day in the NYT, Wash Po, etc. – even though these papers tilt (ever more) left, they have at least some mainstream credibility and are read by some voters who may still be persuadable. But no one who is not already a Hillary true believer would read the Guardian and change their vote as a result. All their meticulous prep in pre-leaking the story to the Guardian reporter, etc. gains them ZERO votes.
It does though help in running out the clock, taking up news cycles, getting Trump off his message, putting Trump on the defensive, riling up enthusiasm from the Feminist brigades.
Hillary faces an enthusiasm gap, Hillary suffers when the voters focus on her, Hillary suffers from Trump highlighting all of her misdeeds.
Woe, that’s a real quote and Trimp comes across pretty nicely in it.
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/29/fringe/miss.universe/
She fell completely out of the sympathy of the target demographic when she won the contest.
If the Ds want to be the party of beauty queens, let them. Trump can represent the rest of women just trying to make a good living and feed their families.
It’s possible that the objective is now abject humiliation rather than mere persuasion.
Someone uploaded this 1997 CNN video featuring Trump and Machado. I don’t know if someone else has posted it on another thread. I apologize if they did. But if you haven’t seen it, watch it. Trump is amazingly nice to this woman. And she seems very cheerful and friendly to Trump. Anyone watching this will come away thinking Trump is a good guy.
Video
Also, Senator Claire McCaskill just made a fat shaming joke about Trump on twitter. Does that mean she's Hitler?
I couldn’t tell if that was her or not in the porn videos. The video quality is not very good.
But she is also a very good example of why it's a really, really bad idea to let yourself be overrun with immigrants at all.
Sra. Machado may be easy on the eyes, but she is fundamentally the Venezuelan version of white trash. She loves to eat fattening junk food, her taste in men runs toward men who are browner than she is and who are known to the police, and she is a baby momma. America has plenty of its own native white trash women and their illegitimate offspring and really doesn’t need to import any more.
How is it that white nationalists countenance a promoter of globalist “beauty contests,” where “latinas” and even negresses defeat beautiful white women?
[Not to speak of the pedophilia exhibited by Grandpa loitering among young women.]
You're too smart to call a guy who likes big T&A a pedophile. Don't do it.
Ms. Machado’s offerings reminded me of this:
http://www.theonion.com/article/bush-refuses-to-dignify-mass-murder-allegations-397
(Oh, and 'protesters' at the council HQ chanted "Hands down, shoot back")
This crying child was also featured on the evening news–I forget which one, I turned it off. At least NBC and CBS “interviewed” her for this “news” story. Children on the news and being used to prop up various agendas, including war, has become standard. Shameless. Your link shows the depths of the brainwashing this poor child is operating under. Also shameless. Under 9 and already a hardened blm sjw.
I don’t get the vitriol towards this woman. Hillary Clinton is right on this issue and how it hilites the differences between the candidates.
While Trump was fat-shaming Machado Bill Clinton was fat-accepting Monica Lewinski. This sends a message to American women about respecting women’s self-esteem. We cannot have a president who disrespects women.
Having checked out her, er, body of work in the last few minutes I can say she definitely has skills. But nothing a willing American lady couldn’t replicate.
[Not to speak of the pedophilia exhibited by Grandpa loitering among young women.]
‘Latina’ is a weasel word. AM would appear to be a white girl. The problem is her trashiness, not her racial make-up.
It sounded really cool in the Brooklyn conference room, though
I think its the duty of men on the alt-right, or just plain old responsible white guys of republican virtue, to stop coddling political nonsense in their women.
Lay it out: "This is a war against white people, against Western civilization--against everything i inherited from my ancestors and hope to pass down to our civilization. If you vote against our civilization you're voting against me and our children's future. It is not acceptable and i'm not going to tolerate it. It's a bright line for me."
I'll leave the question of a spanking and what follows it to you. But it's long past time that white men stopped tolerating adolescent political stupidity in their women.
Another Dad solidifies himself as 2nd best commenter on this board.
I had this difficult conversation w my mother. My wife is paleocon or she would’ve be my wife.
Video
So this whole episode is just fabricated lies??
Also, Senator Claire McCaskill just made a fat shaming joke about Trump on twitter. Does that mean she’s Hitler?
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this tweet of (I think) a California newspaper from 1993, assuming no photoshop work, is illuminating.
I guess that last quote was prophetic, only not the way Bush meant it.
Two reasons:
1) Their primary constituent base doesn’t care. They don’t like X and anything that slings mud at X makes these people “feel good,” or outraged, and is therefore more likely to get them to the polls.
2) The second reason is that roughly 85% of the media, give or take, is just going to ignore any negative news about the designated victim, no matter how bad it is, so there’s a good chance people who are so lazy and dumb as to be “undecided” at this point will never be exposed to the unraveling.
WH interns than her at the time? It's not like he had unlimited freedom of movement and unlimited time to bag hotter girls. The presidency brings a major curtailing of freedom in many aspects. I imagine Monica was really the hottest option he had at the time.
He was depressed after the 94 R sweep (and before Gingrich self-destructed).
She was a slump-buster.
Good point Jack.
I think there are three related things:
1) With blacks the fantasy is so far along *any* questioning, any demanding of standards is “racist”.
2) With blacks and shootings, there simply aren’t many “good victims”. Back in the day you might have found the odd racist cop grabbing up some innocent kid and slapping him around to close a case. That simply isn’t true today. Most blacks with their stuff together *comply* with the cops like the rest of us do. There is the odd case–like Sailer’s case in the parking garage–where an innocent is killed through police incompetence. But when you start with blacks shot by police its just so overwhelmingly non-compliant assholes, that that’s what you get. You couldn’t gin up a “movement” if it was the four or five cases a year of genuine black innocents shot by cop panic\incompetence.
3) The victim narrative trumps all. The left is so incredibly attached to this victim narrative of the world, that they honestly feel it trumps *everything*. Hillary has been pretty incompetent both administratively and in policy results (and just evil in her impulses), but it’s not like she can’t assemble staff to do basic political work–Senate, 2008 run, nomination now. So i doubt that no one on their staff googled Machado and found out she’s a hot mess. No, they just *did not care*, she’s a victim of our white male enemy–Trump. Good ‘nough.
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Short answer: As American society has gotten more fair, there are fewer and fewer numbers of folks from “historically disadvantaged groups” who are actually *innocent* victims. The ones whose lives are screwed up are usually … screwups, the ones who whine are usually … whiners. But at the same time the fairer things have gotten the more the left must rant about how unfair they are, so the demand for victims is actually increasing. Supply and demand … “Gentle Giants”, “Alicia Machado”.
This is now the top news at the Daily Mail. They are adding more details, and really it is right up their alley. Sex, murder, beauty queens, reality TV, weight gain and drug lords!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812212/I-m-not-saint-girl-Sex-reality-TV-Playboy-photo-shoot-threat-kill-judge-claims-drug-lord-fathered-baby-haunt-Alicia-Machado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.html
Thanks to her drug lord anchor baby she can be crowned Miss Hillary’s New American Voter 2016.
I have come to the conclusion however that this woman is something of a put on. But that's OK. Especially since she's working for Hillary, they can't lose: As Rich Lowry once said about Sarah Palin, "Starbursts!"
It's not only Mexico that isn't sending its best. It's Venezuela too.
This didn’t happen on Twitter.
This didn’t happen in a primary.
The charge wasn’t leveled with an ironic smirk, rather it was delivered with sincere (well, for Hillary) outrage.
It happened in a goddamned presidential debate.
This was the “knock-out blow” saved for the end of the fight.
Yes, that’s more ridiculous than anything any male candidates say.
With the possible exception of trying to out-cuck each other for Israel.
Remember: This was the Kill Shot. This was the Ultimate Gotcha. The was supposed to have voided the content of the entire debate: He called a woman fat, and that's that. I don't think any of the great satirists in history could have devised a narrative that would encompass what the political and cultural landscape of America has become in the past few years, and in particular, in this election season.
https://employmentgame.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/calloutracism.jpg
Er — good for your wealth, surely?
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BBC — Serena Williams vows: ‘I won’t be silent’ on police violence
Serena Williams has voiced her fears about police violence, writing on Facebook: “I won’t be silent.” The US tennis star posted that she found herself feeling wary of law enforcement during a recent journey with her teenage nephew. Williams said that when they drove by a patrol car she remembered a woman whose boyfriend was fatally shot by police.
She was concerned for her nephew — but apparently not necessarily for herself — perhaps because she feels she can take care of herself — and from the looks of her, she may be right.
And this right here is why diversity will never be popular in Western Civilization. Some people say Civilization is bad for the planet Gaea. But here on Earth we like it better than we like Gaeans.
Also, Senator Claire McCaskill just made a fat shaming joke about Trump on twitter. Does that mean she's Hitler?
I’m from Missouri and the last thing Claire McCaskill should be doing is making fun of someone’s appearance. She is not exactly fat, but she is definitely fugly.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812212/I-m-not-saint-girl-Sex-reality-TV-Playboy-photo-shoot-threat-kill-judge-claims-drug-lord-fathered-baby-haunt-Alicia-Machado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.htmlThanks to her drug lord anchor baby she can be crowned Miss Hillary's New American Voter 2016.
Just another example of the exemplary services and worth of the Daily Mail’s reportage on Americana. It puts the American press to shame – hands down!
It’s the same with “homophobia”. Lefties will freely denounce you as homophobic, but they also have no problem insinuating you’re a homo in a derogatory sense of “homophobes are the REAL faggots”.
Everytime Alicia Machado makes an appearance on a talk show or new outlet, Murder Was The Case That They Gave Me should start playing in the background.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812212/I-m-not-saint-girl-Sex-reality-TV-Playboy-photo-shoot-threat-kill-judge-claims-drug-lord-fathered-baby-haunt-Alicia-Machado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.htmlThanks to her drug lord anchor baby she can be crowned Miss Hillary's New American Voter 2016.
The article is truly excellent, all we need now is a redo of Ricky Martin on “Livin la pinga divina” featuring all the best Alicia Machado clips.
I have come to the conclusion however that this woman is something of a put on. But that’s OK. Especially since she’s working for Hillary, they can’t lose: As Rich Lowry once said about Sarah Palin, “Starbursts!”
Unless I was in the sports or entertainment business I’d never voluntarily hire an AA. Even then I’d aim to hire only the absolute minimum necessary.
This didn't happen in a primary.
The charge wasn't leveled with an ironic smirk, rather it was delivered with sincere (well, for Hillary) outrage.
It happened in a goddamned presidential debate.
This was the "knock-out blow" saved for the end of the fight.Yes, that's more ridiculous than anything any male candidates say.
With the possible exception of trying to out-cuck each other for Israel.
What made the Alicia Gambit so devastatingly bad is that anyone who heard about it would have assumed that Ms Machado was some humble Mexican lady who was just minding her own business. Instead, Hillary has experienced a Bimbo Eruption on a scale equal to any that Bill ever had.
Remember: This was the Kill Shot. This was the Ultimate Gotcha. The was supposed to have voided the content of the entire debate: He called a woman fat, and that’s that. I don’t think any of the great satirists in history could have devised a narrative that would encompass what the political and cultural landscape of America has become in the past few years, and in particular, in this election season.
Tongue lashing? Seems like that might be the the job of Hilary’s Huma Abedin.
More generally, I can't share the enthusiasm for Trump. I'm glad a candidate is finally broaching issues of immigration and globalism, but I'm really sorry it's him because he simply isn't an appropriate person to hold high office (not saying Clinton is either, but that's not the point). Perhaps he will open the door for someone better to run with the same issues next time.
Jack gave you the key response–this is it, there may not be a next time.
But furthermore, i disagree that Trump’s not “an appropriate person to hold high office”. Heck, I’m mad as hell at him for his debate performance Monday, where with a bit of prep, Hillary–”a target rich environment” if there ever was one–should have limped off the stage bleeding.
But Trump is nonetheless an appropriate person to hold high office because he understands that the job is to what’s in the interest of his fellow Americans.
Furthermore, this idea that his demeanor and background are inadequate? Nonsense, he’s run a billion dollar plus global real estate business empire for decades. He knows how to hire competent people. Trump doesn’t need to sit around and ponder every minute policy detail, he can hire people committed to their fellow Americans to figure out the details of building the wall, setting up systems for mandatory e-verify, deportations, trade policy, tax policy, appropriate reductions in overseas bases, etc.
Trump’s the guy who picked up Derbyshire’s $100 bill sitting on the sidewalk and actually proposed–radical thought!–that American policies should be in the interest of Americans! He’s a hero–warts and all. If you’re not supporting him you’re a whiny, quibbling little whimp.
"There's rarely been a more apt metaphor for American history than watching a well-qualified woman and an intelligent black man try to corral a screaming white man."
White men must be neutralized pronto for the survival of the country
How is that an apt metaphor?
How many extra pounds over his class can a boxer carry at weigh-in and still qualify for the fight?
Did I miss where it said how Alicia Machado got a Green Card, which of course she had to have become becoming a citizen?
She looks like her kid isn’t American, she didn’t marry an American and that she has worked on Spanish TV, etc., in other countries.
So why is she here at all?
It doesn’t seem right that her vote for President is equal to mine.
I suppose that she didn’t give up her Venezuela citizenship to get ours, so she’ll probably vote for their president too. That’s another thing that gets my goat. We used to demand that we become new citizens’ one and only country. We should go back to that.
The incongruence in the way Ms Machado looks, vs the way she speaks and behaves, is jarring.
This girl reminds me of Whitney Houston. Whitney looked like the perfect archetype mulatto. Just looking at her, and hearing her sing, she easily appeared to be the frightened, angry, aimless, 20th century negro, vastly improved. She appeared to be the modernized half-breed negress to lead the rest into the 21st century.
When she spoke, and how she acted, however, betrayed her innate psychology as the most stereotypical example of the self-destructive, frustrated southern swamp negro we had hoped would die out as progressive blacks left them behind. Whitney was hardcore ghetto. Not because she had to be, due to soul-crushing poverty, but because it was in her nature.
Social scientists can lie all they want, but… race matters.
Wrong comment
Yo pienso que ella es una puta gorda.
This didn't happen in a primary.
The charge wasn't leveled with an ironic smirk, rather it was delivered with sincere (well, for Hillary) outrage.
It happened in a goddamned presidential debate.
This was the "knock-out blow" saved for the end of the fight.Yes, that's more ridiculous than anything any male candidates say.
With the possible exception of trying to out-cuck each other for Israel.
Outcucking each other for Isreal was exactly what I had in mind.
Not easy to corral Trump: https://goo.gl/images/o910W3
[Not to speak of the pedophilia exhibited by Grandpa loitering among young women.]
That’s approaching Tiny Duck levels.
You’re too smart to call a guy who likes big T&A a pedophile. Don’t do it.
All their meticulous prep in pre-leaking the story to the Guardian reporter, etc. gains them ZERO votes.
It does though help in running out the clock, taking up news cycles, getting Trump off his message, putting Trump on the defensive, riling up enthusiasm from the Feminist brigades.
Hillary faces an enthusiasm gap, Hillary suffers when the voters focus on her, Hillary suffers from Trump highlighting all of her misdeeds.
"Folks, Hillary said she'll be voting! Why is she even here? Does America need all of her problems?
I helped her out when she put on fifty pounds and was at risk of losing her job! She didn't want my help and then got mixed up in murder, pornography and drug lords! Is this what Hillary is saying she wants for the future of America? Because that's what I heard her say at the the debate.
We can do better!"
Or something like that.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812212/I-m-not-saint-girl-Sex-reality-TV-Playboy-photo-shoot-threat-kill-judge-claims-drug-lord-fathered-baby-haunt-Alicia-Machado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.htmlThanks to her drug lord anchor baby she can be crowned Miss Hillary's New American Voter 2016.
This Jerry Springer interlude to the election won’t have any effect unless it gets tied to immigration in voters’ minds.
It’s not only Mexico that isn’t sending its best. It’s Venezuela too.
WH interns than her at the time? It's not like he had unlimited freedom of movement and unlimited time to bag hotter girls. The presidency brings a major curtailing of freedom in many aspects. I imagine Monica was really the hottest option he had at the time.
Bill has never been known to be picky. I think he’s the type who would screw any female with a pulse.
It does though help in running out the clock, taking up news cycles, getting Trump off his message, putting Trump on the defensive, riling up enthusiasm from the Feminist brigades.
Hillary faces an enthusiasm gap, Hillary suffers when the voters focus on her, Hillary suffers from Trump highlighting all of her misdeeds.
That’s why Trump needs to tie this to anchor babies with drug lords.
“Folks, Hillary said she’ll be voting! Why is she even here? Does America need all of her problems?
I helped her out when she put on fifty pounds and was at risk of losing her job! She didn’t want my help and then got mixed up in murder, pornography and drug lords! Is this what Hillary is saying she wants for the future of America? Because that’s what I heard her say at the the debate.
We can do better!”
Or something like that.
It seems those women were telling the truth and Hillary was doing her best to silence their voices.
Trump was clearly trying to help this Venezuelan woman in her moment of distress.
There is intersectionality between women’s empowerment and women wanting to be treated specially & gently. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. But somehow they can.
"Folks, Hillary said she'll be voting! Why is she even here? Does America need all of her problems?
I helped her out when she put on fifty pounds and was at risk of losing her job! She didn't want my help and then got mixed up in murder, pornography and drug lords! Is this what Hillary is saying she wants for the future of America? Because that's what I heard her say at the the debate.
We can do better!"
Or something like that.
Trump then needs to juxtapose videos of Hillary demonizing women sharing their stories of sexual abuse at the hands of Bill.
It seems those women were telling the truth and Hillary was doing her best to silence their voices.
Trump was clearly trying to help this Venezuelan woman in her moment of distress.
Here:
He actually comes across as quite charming in this video, even if the whole spectacle of watching some pageant chick work out after gaining weight is unpleasant to watch.
Nonetheless, he seems much nicer than anyone else appeared to be in this situation.
Candid, Careful that you don’t get accused of “trash shaming.”
Ms. Machado and her brood of out of wedlock leeches are another instance of high quality vetting by Obama hack Jeh Johnson’s DHS. How does anyone with the name “Jeh” get a job as anything?
Jonathon, Has to meet the weight at weigh in, then pig out.
None. There wouldn’t be a point to weight classes if you could exceed the limit.
Only exception is if the bout is “catch weight,” meaning within agreed-upon limits not corresponding to traditional weight classes. Those can’t be title fights, so far as I know.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-weight-can-boxers-gain-after-weigh-ins
Some boxers prefer to stay close to fighting weight. Marvelous Marvin Hagler never varied more than 5 lbs. his entire career.
What happened to our hilarious Spanish speaking commenter, whose name escapes me?
Jim Don, I think the saying is…” A hole and a heartbeat.”
Si le falta, puedo sustuir.
The stills I looked at were pretty clear (although there were a lot of shots from the rear…) Anyway, it should not be too hard to find out. I doubt if she would even deny if she was asked.
Remember: This was the Kill Shot. This was the Ultimate Gotcha. The was supposed to have voided the content of the entire debate: He called a woman fat, and that's that. I don't think any of the great satirists in history could have devised a narrative that would encompass what the political and cultural landscape of America has become in the past few years, and in particular, in this election season.
Nicely said.
"There's rarely been a more apt metaphor for American history than watching a well-qualified woman and an intelligent black man try to corral a screaming white man."
White men must be neutralized pronto for the survival of the country
They must have been watching reruns of Murder She Wrote, or maybe 24.
Es posible, que tu tienes un chorizo pequeno?
You're too smart to call a guy who likes big T&A a pedophile. Don't do it.
I agree. That was a cheap shot and was inaccurate.
You are surprised?
Given the volatility of the “opinion” of the masses, time is crucial in the pre-election period timing.
For example: if a murder like that preceding the vote on Brexit shortly is to happen, it will happen in the last 15 days. It’s then that it is most useful; it would be of no use months in advance.
Machado pic 1
Machado pic 2
Shine, o beauty.
Yes, I linked to this on another thread. It’s fantastic work by Codevilla; he sees the big picture very clearly.
Maybe Rosie O’Donald.
The Claremont article is as great as those by Decius at the same place.
Which is why he was called the first black president.
For the same reason that Loretta Lynch got to be Attorney General.
No. It’s an example of the Obama Administration importing lardass fatties to consume more and more of Big Pharma’s tasty agri- and pharma-products.
They eat ten times more than a normal person, they get sick at higher rates with worse problems, thus they need medical attention and blortwagons (what my youngest calls those wide scooters for morbidly obese Michelin people).
They vote the way you tell them to, they live in hives till they burn them down and need the construction and banking/finance industries to build new ones, and they like cheap shiny things.
Their stupidity ensures they will always need a Mommy Class of social workers, teachers, and lawyers to Champion their interests in the name of Higher Principles.
It’s a win win win win win for Wall St. and the globalistas!
It’s quaint when people talk about 2016 deciding whether or not we’ll be a republic. Where have they been for 80 years?
You have to meet weight at the weight in, which is why it’s held the day before the fight. Boxers have gone into the ring 10-15 lbs. heavier than they were the day before. Google “weight cutting”.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-weight-can-boxers-gain-after-weigh-ins
Some boxers prefer to stay close to fighting weight. Marvelous Marvin Hagler never varied more than 5 lbs. his entire career.