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From the Washington Post:

Tucker Carlson, the Daily Stormer’s favorite

By Erik Wemple, Media critic
November 29 at 1:58 PM

Research cited by BuzzFeed finds that Fox News host Tucker Carlson is the most favored commentator on Andrew Anglin’s vile, racist website, the Daily Stormer. …

The analysis marks a vindication of Carlson’s apparent programming strategy for his eponymous program, “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” Whereas a host like Hannity, for example, forever parrots Trump’s talking points — the Robert S. Mueller III investigation is a “witch hunt”; the “fake news” media is out to get the president — Carlson has consistently pursued storylines and polemical themes that please racists. Carlson hypes alleged crimes and dislocation caused by immigration; he demands that U.S. elites defend the cliche that diversity is our greatest strength; he circulates bogus material about South Africa’s alleged injustices against white farmers; and he cheers on Trump’s hard-line immigration policies. …

Could this be an unfortunate coincidence? Is it possible that these racists aren’t fully understanding Carlson’s message? No, the danger is that they understand it all too well. Media Matters compiled a video of Carlson’s pronouncements about diversity and demographic change alongside those of alt-right/white nationalist figures. The upshot is that the Fox News host dresses his version of this ideology in belletristic flourishes with a shiny television studio backdrop, whereas the other folks are in less artistic formulations in pedestrian settings. For instance, Carlson once said on his program, “Latin American countries are changing election outcomes here by forcing demographic change on this country at a rate that American voters consistently say they don’t want.” White nationalist figure Christopher Cantwell said, “It sounds to me like we got a problem with people who got here illegally altering the landscape politically. I don’t like it. F— you. Stop it.”

So, there you go: Carlson noticed a fact that was also noticed by a Bad Person, so the Transitive Property Law of Crimethink proves that Carlson is a Bad Person too.

(Do I have the name of the Property right?)

In my new book review of Ship of Fools, Carlson’s bestseller, I note:

Interestingly, despite his clarity of expression, almost nobody has noticed Carlson’s growing ideological centrism. But that’s because what matters most to contemporary intellectuals is not policy but keeping the alliance of the margins together by blaming straight white males. And Carlson is the exemplification of straight white maleness.

Yet, as he writes:

At the moment, the coalition of identity groups has held together because it is united in a single purpose against white male power. But rapid demographic change makes this unsustainable. When the traditional scapegoat becomes insufficient, various factions will turn on one another.

Chaos will ensue.

Here’s Wemple and Carlson debating on Carlson’s show last year:

 
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  1. Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a “Dying Breed”.
    Anyway, It’s Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Simple Psuedonym
    Hate speech a meaningless cliche of recent invention by parasite such as you. I'll say exactly as I please.

    After hubris cometh the fall mongrel..
    , @Mr. Blank
    Tiny Duck, is that you?
    , @Colin Wright
    'Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.'


    You're wrong. 'Hate Speech' is just speech you don't like.

    Everyone is always for free speech they find congenial. Hitler would have had no problem with you proclaiming your faith in final victory. Stalin would have applauded your zeal for the five-year plan.

    It's speech you vehemently disagree with that's the problem. And that's free speech.

    ...or, as you would have it, 'hate speech.' Since you wish to censor it.
    , @anon
    Let's be clear about what you hate.
    You hate debate. You hate argument. You hate reason.
    You therefore hate truth.
    If you hate truth, you hate human life. Truth saves human life.
    You hate people.
    You are gloating at the prospect of a race of people dying out. More proof that you hate people.
    Your liberal sanctimony is a mask to hide your hatred of human life.
    , @Andrew
    There is no such thing as "hate speech" It's a culturally marxist term for leftists who hate free speech. No one is forcing anyone to listen to a putz like Andrew Anglin. So long as he's not calling for specific violence he should have as much right to free speech as anyone.

    Erik Wemple, meanwhile-wow. He speaks and sounds as dumb as he reads. Who knew? (Anyone who had made a educated guess, I suppose.)
    , @ThreeCranes
    "Presence of...absolutely disgusting." So the mere existence of something disgusts you. You must have very refined sensibilities, like a hog's nose for truffles. How Godlike you are in your pronouncements.

    "Hate speech is not Free speech." What is "Free speech"? Does it not mean to speak freely? Is it a noun--a category, or a verb? I believe that you've turned speaking into a thing, a noun. And in doing so you've lost the true meaning. You're guilty of an intellectual error here.

    And "Hate speech"? Is it a thing? Or a doing? Does one speak hatefully? Is the hate in the doing or in the content of what is said? If the latter then what does the hater hate? And why does he hate it?

    How is his expression of his hate any different from your expression of disgust?--which, as psychologists have informed us lies at the root of moral judgements of condemnation i.e. intolerance and hate.

    Ah, but you hate hate. And that makes it alright in your eyes. As HogGod, you're not troubled by a foolish inconsistency. You know what you like by its smell; Enlightenment and the Right to speak freely be damned.

    , @Thirdtwin
    "Anyway, It’s Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks"

    Cool clock, Mike! Want to bring it to the White House?
    , @MJB
    I recall Tim Wise in the late 80s proclaiming the Soviet Union did not have ICBMs targeted on the US, in the Tulane University newspaper. Wouldn't cite Wise as an authority but merely as another agitprop mechanic on any issue of the day.
    , @Art Deco
    You're citing Tim Wise as an authority?

    What's interesting is that there actually is a Michael O. Krauthammer who is a peripheral faculty member at Yale.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/bbs/molmed/people/michael_krauthammer.profile



    Someone needs to contact him and tell him that some person is making silly crank posts using his handle.
    , @JohnZ
    Hate speech is free speech. Free speech includes the right to speak ill of others or even to display an disnliking of others.
    Get over yourself.
    It is covered by the First Amendment.
    You sound as if your comment came directly out of a college campus where freedom of speech is now considered rayciss.
    The First Amendment guarantees my right to agree or disagree with with the government, the right to voice my displeasure at whatever I find troublesome. Including other people.
    It guarantees my right to either voice my approval of certain groups or people and disapproval of others ie: my admiration and support for the Syrian people along with my deepest loathing for Pisrael,
    or Black Lives Matter or ANTIFA.
    Talk about hate groups, such entities as the ADL, SPLC and B'Nai B'rith exhibit some of the worst forms of intolerance and hate imaginable. Yes, the First Amendment protects hate speech.
    Get over yourself.
    , @interesting
    Why would you quote a known racist like Time Wise?
  2. I know little about the Daily Stormer other than that it’s far-right, but logically, there will always be a “most favored commentator” on that or any other site.

    When they get rid of Carlson, then the most favored commentator will probably be Ann Coulter. Then Hannity. Eventually they’ll finish off David Brooks and Tom Friedman. Maybe once they start after Amy Goodman, they’ll stop and reflect.

    Also, it’s surprising the WaPo admitted basing a story on “research cited by BuzzFeed.” How would you like to have graduated from Columbia Journalism School, clawed your way into a job writing for the WaPo, then found out they are cool with writing stories about “research cited by BuzzFeed”?

    • Replies: @Svigor
    The whole concept of journalistic pedigree or standing is laughable. "Prestige" and "glamour" are applicable terms, though.

    (Sorry Steve, but your former profession is packed to the rafters with subhuman scum).

    , @Bubba

    How would you like to have graduated from Columbia Journalism School, clawed your way into a job writing for the WaPo, then found out they are cool with writing stories about “research cited by BuzzFeed”?
     
    Your great question reminds me (and it's a hazy memory) of the late, magnificent Robert Bork describing his experience of being nominated to the SC. He made an analogy to someone studying and dedicating his life to astronomy who finally gets to the pinnacle of his career only to realize that the "intelligentsia" are astrologists.
  3. Carlson is liked by the Daily Stormer therefore he is bad. The Daily Stormer writes nasty things.

    OTOH, studies over the years have shown that 70% or more of convicted felons register as Democrats and presumably, therefore, vote as Democrats.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  4. This whole thing appears to be absolute gibberish. Hannity doesn’t please racists, and the racists in question are the feds and JIDF at Anglin’s site? If he introduced a talking wyvern halfway through this, it would be more entertaining, and nobody could argue that it was out of place.
    He is right though that the Mueller fake investigation is not a witch hunt: it is a fishing expedition entrapping people with process crimes. If it was a witch hunt, it would have stayed on target, it wouldn’t have to rely on pilpul, and it would have ended a year and a half ago.

  5. He probably drinks milk too.

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @FKA Max
    He LOVES to eat cheese:

    Tucker Carlson Answers 22 Questions about Himself

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrHDo14MSGQ
    , @Anonymous
    That's evidently a Nazi Cow, collaborating like that. Deplatform her now!
  6. Over/ under in Carlsons firing? I give him no more than three weeks.

    Carlson is no moderate. For White men to even exist is a far right Nazi position. Wanting Europe and America to be White is literally Hitler. Nice White ladies if not decapitated will not stand for that. They can’t even.

    • Disagree: Lowe
    • Replies: @Svigor
    If you read "white women" as Whiskey-code for "Jews," some of his comments actually make sense.
    , @MarkinLA
    His ratings are too high right now.
    , @Lagertha
    the thing is: women love Tucker..he is the perfect guy. He has 4 well-adjusted children; lovely wife who is the mother of his children (no 2nds or Trophy wives) - youngest is almost 17. He also, is very pleasant. He is like many wealthy Wasps & Wascs I knew in the 70's & 80's: great manners, polite; can speak to my great aunt Kristina...or the mechanic who repaired his daughter's car. Yes, he is privileged, but so are so many today - everyone in the public sphere, in the light.

    But, women (j'adore Tucker) like Tucker because he reminds them of daddy, or the daddy they wanted (he has 3 daughters).

    Tucker also, has a great relationship with his father. And, this fact alone, makes people envious. I can tell y'all, many people I have known for a long time, were always envious/curious of my close relationship with my parents (who were intense and often difficult!). But, the love is something you can not explain to people. The love that hurts because they are no longer here.

    So, Tucker is today's news guy who is as hated as my lovely, football Tom because he is Woke! He sees thru the bullshit of the Republicans and Democrats....the last 30 years of deception and subterfuge.

  7. “Carlson noticed a fact that was also noticed by a bad person, so the Commutative Property Law of Crimethink proves that Carlson is a bad person.”

    Of all of the left’s dishonest premises, this one is especially disingenuous. The people who engage in it do not deserve a civilized rebuke.

    • Replies: @SMK
    "Alleged crimes...caused by immigration." That immigrants, legal and illegal, have committed millions and millions of crimes, or any crimes apparently, is a "racist" myth! "Alleged injustices against white farmers in South Africa." No white farmers and their wives and children have been murdered by blacks after being raped and gang-raped, vaginally and anally, tortured, mutilated, skinned alive, boiled in oil, ad nauseum. And then cannibalized? Such atrocities and horrors are purely chimerical.

    What an odious creature. Is he a liar or is he psychotic, totally delusional, completely estranged from objective reality, impervious to facts and logic. "Straight white males" are the most execrable, insane, guilt-ridden, masochistic, self-loathing, and suicidal of all left-liberals. How much power and influence would leftists and leftism have if not for "straight white male" left-liberals"?
  8. This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    • Replies: @Anon
    That's right.

    Someone should ask Mr. Wemple if appearing on a segment of Tucker Carlson's show is the equivalent of hanging out with Mr.Anglin?

    It's hard to see why not in these associative times.

    , @anon
    Tucker also gave away the "Erik Wemple mug" to whoever won the weekly trivia contest.


    https://i.imgur.com/odAdh2Y.jpg

    , @Ibound1
    Wemple seems retarded. Is something wrong with him?
    , @Cato
    Yes, a revenge attack. Tucker eviscerated Wemple.
    , @lavoisier
    Absolutely spot on.

    The guy is still smarting from the intellectual beat down he took from Tucker.

    So he tries to land a sucker punch in the dishonest scumbag style of the liberal.

    , @snorlax
    He did even better when Wemple interviewed him (non-paywall link). I defy any naysayer to read it and then tell us Tucker isn't a good debater. Scroll past the editorializing and selected excerpts to where Wemple posted the full transcript, because he thought it somehow made him look good. Make sure you're somewhere where people won't mind you LOL'ing multiple times.
    , @Twinkie
    Wemple looks a bit like that sidekick deputy US Marshal in “Justified.”

    http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23800000/Premiere-Of-FX-Networks-Sony-Pictures-Television-s-Justified-jacob-pitts-23839388-380-594.jpg

    He was my favorite character on the show.
  9. Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    , @Pericles
    Associativity is a property of functions, while transitivity is a property of relations.

    Associative: x + (y + z) = (x + y) + z

    Transitive: x < y and y < z implies x < z

  10. Leftists like Wemple are pathetic – every white guy, even a centrist like Tucker, that disagrees with them is a “racist.”

    I find it interesting that the left eats another one of its own and wonder when that civil war is going to start…

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/temple-university-stands-by-marc-lamont-hill-after-cnn-fires-him-for-anti-israel-remarks

  11. Tucker Carlson is no more…no less racist than Black Lives Matter…LA RAZA……The Black Congressional Caucus…..and Barack Obama…..So what’s the big deal?

  12. Marilyn Monroe was already very famous by 1953, so it’s all but certain by the time he died in that same year Joseph Stalin was familiar with her and (like almost all men) believed her to be very attractive, so it follows we are all of us genocidal tyrants: Kill yourselves, you beasts!

  13. @Buzz Mohawk
    He probably drinks milk too.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D6Vv5aukQQ4/VhFmDbFcjJI/AAAAAAABi5I/hxToOtVDdP8/s1600/german%2Barmy%2Bsoldiers%2Bgetting%2Bmilk.jpg

    He LOVES to eat cheese:

    Tucker Carlson Answers 22 Questions about Himself

    • Replies: @Portlander
    LOL... 8 cups of coffee a day, 100 sticks of nicorette, and no idea why he can't sit through a movie?
  14. @Anonym
    Are you sure it's not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Neither the commutative nor the associative property pertains here, but you could easily display the fallacy of the reasoning with a Venn diagram or by using first order predicate calculus.

    The commutative property refers to the order of the operands. Example: 5 +3 = 3 +5.

    The associative property refers to the grouping of the operations. Example: 5 + (3 + 6) = (5 + 3) + 6.

    But the example Steve is referring to actually has to do with what can be predicated of what. The "Commutive Law of Crimethink" states something like "If x is both a and b, then if y is an x then y is a b." This is invalid in a couple of different ways, both because conjunctions are not truth preserving and because there is no way to discharge the consequent of the second conditional.
    , @anon
    I think it's closest to the transitive property.

    If a=b and b=c ... then a=c.

    , @lhtness
    Commutativity is "a * b = b * a", so I don't feel that the term works. What exactly the logic is is a bit harder to pin down. It might be pretending that "likes" is a symmetric relation, even though it's obviously asymmetric. ("John likes Mary" does not imply "Mary likes John.")

    Alternatively, it might be something closer to "John likes Mary, and John is racist, so Mary must be racist too." Almost a sort of affectational infection.
    , @AnotherDad
    It's some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property:

    A believes C
    B believes C
    -> A and B are the same!
    , @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.
    , @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Commutative property: a + b = b + a (order of elements doesn't matter)
    Associative property: (a+b)+c = a+(b+c) (order of operations doesn't matter)
    Distributive property: a*(b+c) = a*b + b*c (relationship between multiplication and addition)
    Transitive property: if a=b and b=c then a=c

    The law Steve has identified is of the form "If A has property P, and B has properties P and R, then A has property R", where P = noticing a certain phenomenon, R = being a racist. I don't know of a mathematical law of this form. Maybe the name of this law can be found in a list of logical fallacies.
    , @Kratoklastes
    As @Intelligent Dasein pointed out already it's just a malformed application of set theory and/or logic;

    (X ∈ A) ∧ (X ∈ B) ∧ (Y ∈ B) ⇒ Y ∈ A

    It's true iff A ⇒ B, which is not generally the case.

    Did Cheney like Wizz Fizz as a child? If so, I am a war criminal.

    (I suppose I should have picked an example where the RHS is not unconditionally true... ooops)

    , @academic gossip
    Transitive is funnier for rhetorical purposes but binary and quarantine fit better here.

    The logic is that there is a division of ideas into completely separate and unequal Good and Bad sets, and Goodfolk are only allowed to choose from the Good menu of thoughts.

    The weak form of the fallacy (Carlson is bad) is that Bad opinions are quarantined from good people. Hold a bad opinion and you are bad.

    The strong fallacy (Carlson is a neo-Nazi) is the Binary Law that also bad people only choose from their own menu. Thus if Carlson agrees with a Nazi on one thing, his opinions are Nazi on everything else. There is only an Us and a Them.

    To return to the HPD discussion, the binary thing is called "splitting" (conceiving of others as all-good or all-bad) in the psychology of Cluster B disorders. The modern left has many histrionic features and this is another of them.

  15. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    Hate speech a meaningless cliche of recent invention by parasite such as you. I’ll say exactly as I please.

    After hubris cometh the fall mongrel..

    • Replies: @lhtness
    "Hate speech" isn't a meaningless cliché. It's a euphemism for "blasphemy", somewhat generalized to include sacred values/groups/ideas/symbols beyond those typically regarded as religious.
    , @Bill Jones
    It's pointless to reply to the likes of Kraphymie.
  16. This probably triggered Matthew Yglesias, David Brooks, William Kristol, and Max Boot.

  17. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    That’s right.

    Someone should ask Mr. Wemple if appearing on a segment of Tucker Carlson’s show is the equivalent of hanging out with Mr.Anglin?

    It’s hard to see why not in these associative times.

  18. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    Tucker also gave away the “Erik Wemple mug” to whoever won the weekly trivia contest.

  19. Andrew Anglin is guilty Guilty GUILTY!!!

    Of producing hilarious performance art.

    And highlighting facts that the Judenreich finds embarrassing.

    • Agree: donut
  20. @Whiskey
    Over/ under in Carlsons firing? I give him no more than three weeks.

    Carlson is no moderate. For White men to even exist is a far right Nazi position. Wanting Europe and America to be White is literally Hitler. Nice White ladies if not decapitated will not stand for that. They can't even.

    If you read “white women” as Whiskey-code for “Jews,” some of his comments actually make sense.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Huh, you might be right.
  21. Wow. I’m rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I’m surprised it didn’t get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing. I know kids in elementary school who could shred this kind of argument like a Cuisinart.

    Seriously, this reads like the sort of thing a liberal would dream up as a parody of Glenn Beck:

    “Bernie Sanders wants universal health care! You know who else wanted universal health care? STALIN. Coincidence? I’d say it looks mighty SUSPICIOUS…”

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I’m rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I’m surprised it didn’t get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing.
     
    The Post has been publishing opinion articles as sloppy and low quality as this one for several years now.
    , @Forbes
    As I keep saying, the WaPo/NYT/prog-lefties lack the self-awareness gene. And apparently logic and reasoning are above their pay grade. Validating their feelz is about all they're capable.
    , @Trevor H.
    Channelling Dana Carvey's Church Lady.
  22. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    Wemple seems retarded. Is something wrong with him?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    By the law of averages, Shabbotz Goyim are going to have goyische kopf. I read his wiki bio, I think he or his wife worked at Mother Jones. Now he works for Bezos I think.
    , @anon
    No, he is just a 9 year old in a grown up's body.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciu0XjWucg&t=20

  23. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    Tiny Duck, is that you?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    No Tiny Duck is a parodist making fun of progressive people like Krauthammer. To make sure readers get the message, TD uses a self deprecating moniker, and slips at least one malapropism or other bit of gibberish into each post in order to make Progs look like dimbulbs. It’s a form of trolling for humorous effect.
  24. @Whiskey
    Over/ under in Carlsons firing? I give him no more than three weeks.

    Carlson is no moderate. For White men to even exist is a far right Nazi position. Wanting Europe and America to be White is literally Hitler. Nice White ladies if not decapitated will not stand for that. They can't even.

    His ratings are too high right now.

  25. Well, it’s algebraic anyway:

    Carlson(Crimefact) = Nazi(Crimefact)

    Therefore, Carlson = Nazi

    If their logic is true, wouldn’t Crimefact = 0 and therefore be nothing?

    Aha! That’s how they make crimefacts disappear!

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Since Carlson is obviously not a Nazi, in order for Carlson to be equal to Nazi, a Crimefact would have to equal zero and therefore disappear.
    , @Lagertha
    Tucker irritates some people just like Tom Brady irritates football-heads.

    Tom...Totally, OT: but, Tom of Finland was very right wing! Most people think he was a leftie homo, but he came from money (never forgot that), and was a Finnish patriot who respected the war effort to keep Finland free. He understood he was different but did not blame people. https://youtu.be/Fqh-hcQdRhE

  26. @Faraday's Bobcat
    I know little about the Daily Stormer other than that it's far-right, but logically, there will always be a "most favored commentator" on that or any other site.

    When they get rid of Carlson, then the most favored commentator will probably be Ann Coulter. Then Hannity. Eventually they'll finish off David Brooks and Tom Friedman. Maybe once they start after Amy Goodman, they'll stop and reflect.

    Also, it's surprising the WaPo admitted basing a story on "research cited by BuzzFeed." How would you like to have graduated from Columbia Journalism School, clawed your way into a job writing for the WaPo, then found out they are cool with writing stories about "research cited by BuzzFeed"?

    The whole concept of journalistic pedigree or standing is laughable. “Prestige” and “glamour” are applicable terms, though.

    (Sorry Steve, but your former profession is packed to the rafters with subhuman scum).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... your former profession ...
     
    Whaaa? I thought Steve Sailer's former career was in marketing. No? Golf course design?
    , @Buster Keaton's Stunt Double
    "The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits-a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage."

    -Hunter S. Thompson
  27. @Faraday's Bobcat
    I know little about the Daily Stormer other than that it's far-right, but logically, there will always be a "most favored commentator" on that or any other site.

    When they get rid of Carlson, then the most favored commentator will probably be Ann Coulter. Then Hannity. Eventually they'll finish off David Brooks and Tom Friedman. Maybe once they start after Amy Goodman, they'll stop and reflect.

    Also, it's surprising the WaPo admitted basing a story on "research cited by BuzzFeed." How would you like to have graduated from Columbia Journalism School, clawed your way into a job writing for the WaPo, then found out they are cool with writing stories about "research cited by BuzzFeed"?

    How would you like to have graduated from Columbia Journalism School, clawed your way into a job writing for the WaPo, then found out they are cool with writing stories about “research cited by BuzzFeed”?

    Your great question reminds me (and it’s a hazy memory) of the late, magnificent Robert Bork describing his experience of being nominated to the SC. He made an analogy to someone studying and dedicating his life to astronomy who finally gets to the pinnacle of his career only to realize that the “intelligentsia” are astrologists.

  28. Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.

    I would love to see Tucker do a segment on why in 2008, when 80 per cent of America disapproved, the Congress of the United Stated bailed out the big banks.

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid and the failure to repay would cause unbelievable pain and suffering yet they were raking in money and could not stop themselves.

    I said, they are going to go bust because of this stupidity. I was wrong. We paid a trillion dollars to stop them from going bust.

    The press should be on this. To ignore this story is to support the corruption in the Swamp.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.
     
    Certainly at least someone on his staff would be reading this site. That would be expected of staff for others as well, including the president. Leaders themselves don't have to be the ones reading here, though some of them might be.
    , @Cato

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid
     
    Everyone thought the subprime game was pretty safe. First, bundling a whole bunch of mortgages into a security means DIVERSIFICATION, and everyone knows that reduces risk. Second, credit default swaps were a way of getting INSURANCE on those securities, and everyone knows that almost eliminates risk. Third, the FED is controlled by Wall Street, and everyone knows that guarantees profits.

    And they were right. About the third point, if not the first two.

    , @inertial
    Actually, the government made a ton of money on that bailout. $96.5 Billion at the latest count, and this includes ~$12.5 Billion loss on GM and Chrysler.

    Goldman Sachs, to pick a random example, got a $10 Billion bailout and 7 months later paid back $11.4 Billion. That's a pretty nice effective interest rate.

  29. Transitivity is a better way of putting it…Although…..if we are talking about the MATRIX OF EVIL….. By Linear Algebra:Commuting nxn EVIL MATRICES…Tucker CarlsonxThe Alt Right=The Alt RightxTucker Carlson=common EVIL RACIST eigenvalue =lamda=THE COMMON SPECTRUM OF EVIL RACIST…..perhaps this what the WaPost writer was attempting to say…..kind of a math joke:THE TRACE OF EVIL!!!

    And by virtue of commutivity….the uncertainty principle is excluded….ABSOLUTE EVIL!!!…THE MATRIX OF EVIL!!!

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Moreover...since commuting EVIL RACIST MATRICES are normal linear operators............RACISM!!!!!! is normal.....This is a theorem from PROBLEM BOOK ON HILBERT SPACE by Paul Halmos.....
  30. “Research cited by BuzzFeed …”

    That was a literal LOL. What an opening line.

  31. Research cited by BuzzFeed finds….

    Yeah, that is your first problem right there. I believe that The NY Times has been on a downward trajectory for years, but the complete collapse of The Washington Post into clickbait mediocrity is utterly depressing. It was not too long ago that The Washington Post was a respected, reserved, if perhaps, slightly square publication. Literally, the staid, practical voice of the Washington Establishment.

    I also remember when Slate was an intellectual, provocative and respectable read. Our society’s abandonment of logical discourse will be our collective downfall.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I also remember when Slate was an intellectual, provocative and respectable read. Our society’s abandonment of logical discourse will be our collective downfall.
     
    It started that way under Michael Kinsley's editorship. It went downhill after he left.
  32. @Ibound1
    Wemple seems retarded. Is something wrong with him?

    By the law of averages, Shabbotz Goyim are going to have goyische kopf. I read his wiki bio, I think he or his wife worked at Mother Jones. Now he works for Bezos I think.

  33. As everyone now knows, if Bezos’ hand-puppets type it today, Don Lemon & Chris Cuomo will say it tomorrow. Anyway, the important thing is: keep antifa pressure squarely on Carlson’s wife and kids. (Until you’ve been chased out of department stores and/or had your car assaulted while you’re trying to drive it, you’re being pretty much left alone, so stop fucking complaining!)

    Right, “Krauthammer”?

  34. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    ‘Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.’

    You’re wrong. ‘Hate Speech’ is just speech you don’t like.

    Everyone is always for free speech they find congenial. Hitler would have had no problem with you proclaiming your faith in final victory. Stalin would have applauded your zeal for the five-year plan.

    It’s speech you vehemently disagree with that’s the problem. And that’s free speech.

    …or, as you would have it, ‘hate speech.’ Since you wish to censor it.

    • Replies: @donut
    " Hitler would have had no problem with you proclaiming your faith in final victory. Stalin would have applauded your zeal for the five-year plan."

    While under Hitler "proclaiming your faith in final victory" would keep you out of trouble in Stalin's madhouse nothing could keep you safe . In the Socialist paradise "there is no why".
  35. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    Yes, a revenge attack. Tucker eviscerated Wemple.

  36. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    Neither the commutative nor the associative property pertains here, but you could easily display the fallacy of the reasoning with a Venn diagram or by using first order predicate calculus.

    The commutative property refers to the order of the operands. Example: 5 +3 = 3 +5.

    The associative property refers to the grouping of the operations. Example: 5 + (3 + 6) = (5 + 3) + 6.

    But the example Steve is referring to actually has to do with what can be predicated of what. The “Commutive Law of Crimethink” states something like “If x is both a and b, then if y is an x then y is a b.” This is invalid in a couple of different ways, both because conjunctions are not truth preserving and because there is no way to discharge the consequent of the second conditional.

    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Seems more like "If X is A and Y is A and B, the X is B"

    where X = Carlson, Y = DStormer, A = Doesn't like Immigration, and B = Very Bad person.
  37. @scrivener3
    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.

    I would love to see Tucker do a segment on why in 2008, when 80 per cent of America disapproved, the Congress of the United Stated bailed out the big banks.

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid and the failure to repay would cause unbelievable pain and suffering yet they were raking in money and could not stop themselves.

    I said, they are going to go bust because of this stupidity. I was wrong. We paid a trillion dollars to stop them from going bust.

    The press should be on this. To ignore this story is to support the corruption in the Swamp.

    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.

    Certainly at least someone on his staff would be reading this site. That would be expected of staff for others as well, including the president. Leaders themselves don’t have to be the ones reading here, though some of them might be.

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    Tucker reads this site. I am almost shocked at how ideas I cherish here are said on TV. Steve is the most original thinker I have run across.

    When I studied Philosophy as an undergraduate it occurred to me that there were very few new ideas. Some philosopher said something and in the next 50 to 100 years the idea percolated through the culture.

    I don't mean to suck up to our host, but really, Steve is saying something original. It is very rare. I tend to agree with him when he does so.
    , @Lagertha
    Let's not spoil it...that is @scrivener3, too.
  38. Haaaaa….. WaPo reads Daily Stormer.

    Anglin’s got to be driving them absolutely bat-shit crazy. How cool is that?

  39. @War for Blair Mountain
    Transitivity is a better way of putting it...Although.....if we are talking about the MATRIX OF EVIL..... By Linear Algebra:Commuting nxn EVIL MATRICES...Tucker CarlsonxThe Alt Right=The Alt RightxTucker Carlson=common EVIL RACIST eigenvalue =lamda=THE COMMON SPECTRUM OF EVIL RACIST.....perhaps this what the WaPost writer was attempting to say.....kind of a math joke:THE TRACE OF EVIL!!!

    And by virtue of commutivity....the uncertainty principle is excluded....ABSOLUTE EVIL!!!...THE MATRIX OF EVIL!!!

    Moreover…since commuting EVIL RACIST MATRICES are normal linear operators…………RACISM!!!!!! is normal…..This is a theorem from PROBLEM BOOK ON HILBERT SPACE by Paul Halmos…..

  40. Looks like some Tucker Carlson fans struck at Columbia University in Manhattan!!!! What is most shocking is that the vandals even managed to draw the swastikas correctly this time. That means we are dealing with some real Ivy League Nazis.

    I sure hope Columbia University invested in some security cameras so we can catch whoever did this…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6440903/Columbia-University-professors-finds-swastikas-spray-painted-office-walls.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    This isn't the first time her office has been vandalized with anti-Semitic blasphemy.
     
    Blasphemy! Wow! Apparently, they are no longer merely God's Chosen People, but Gods themselves.

    Wouldn't real Nazis use black spray paint for a swastika? The swastika in the flag was black.

    I also note that the vandalism was inside her office. Isn't it normally locked?
  41. @Ibound1
    Wemple seems retarded. Is something wrong with him?

    No, he is just a 9 year old in a grown up’s body.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij06kLDKJrw
  42. @scrivener3
    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.

    I would love to see Tucker do a segment on why in 2008, when 80 per cent of America disapproved, the Congress of the United Stated bailed out the big banks.

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid and the failure to repay would cause unbelievable pain and suffering yet they were raking in money and could not stop themselves.

    I said, they are going to go bust because of this stupidity. I was wrong. We paid a trillion dollars to stop them from going bust.

    The press should be on this. To ignore this story is to support the corruption in the Swamp.

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid

    Everyone thought the subprime game was pretty safe. First, bundling a whole bunch of mortgages into a security means DIVERSIFICATION, and everyone knows that reduces risk. Second, credit default swaps were a way of getting INSURANCE on those securities, and everyone knows that almost eliminates risk. Third, the FED is controlled by Wall Street, and everyone knows that guarantees profits.

    And they were right. About the third point, if not the first two.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @scrivener3
    Ugh, no. I knew it would end in tears. I did not know it would end in MY TEARS. You do not feel the pain yet but you will.
    , @MarkinLA
    Sure on paper, if you do the correct due-diligence on the borrower to make sure the default rate stays within the acceptable range. When you make no doc, stated income loans everything falls apart.
  43. Carlson said a fool and evil

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/tucker-carlsons-take-on-diversity-betrays-americas-motto/2018/09/11/65132380-b5f3-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.b3c44675f2a9

    Diversity is our strength

    Oh and Cohen flipped. This is it. Evidence of collusion with Russia. Trump
    Is finished

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    How did Carlson betray "In God We Trust"?
  44. its pretty simple: only boomers watch hannity and the DS doesnt cater to boomers.

    ann coulter (“queen ann”) is the only boomercon who gets respect on the alt-right.

    btw, its always sad seeing people criticize “anglin man bad” when they haven’t read the site. anglin is hugely talented and hilarious.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    Ann Coulter was born 12-8-61. A good 16 years after the end of World War 2. Baby-boomers came of age in the 60's. Just because she's now middle aged doesn't make her a baby-boomer. She turned 18 just before Christmas of 1979. She wasn't even an adult when the Iran hostage crisis started.
  45. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Carlson has consistently pursued storylines and polemical themes that please racists.

    Race-ism is truth. It’s good to please race-ists who speak the truth about race. More people should please true race-ists such as myself.
    Btw, if Palestinians were doing to Jews what blacks are doing to whites in South Africa, it’d be BIG STORY in the US media.

    Also, whites just want what Jews got. Identity and interests based on identity. If it’s good enough for wonderful Jews, it should be good enough for whites too.

    Another thing. Why are non-whites rejecting and running from their own kind to be with white people? Immigration patterns are race-ist. Non-whites see whites as superior and flock to white nations. Now, that is one kind of race-ism that is ultimately bad for both whites and non-whites. White lands will be swamped by non-whites. Also, non-white nations will lose much brains and labor. Also, it isn’t good for non-white self-esteem if their biggest dream is to run from their own kind and start anew in white or white-made nations. It means their own kind suck so bad that they don’t want to be with their own kinsmen and countrymen. Instead of seeing white folks as saviors, they should learn to save their own nations and build on their own talent and determination.

    We need good race-ism of nationalism and self-worth, not the bad race-ism of globalism and running from own kind to be with white folks.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    Well, it's algebraic anyway:

    Carlson(Crimefact) = Nazi(Crimefact)

    Therefore, Carlson = Nazi

    If their logic is true, wouldn't Crimefact = 0 and therefore be nothing?

    Aha! That's how they make crimefacts disappear!

    Since Carlson is obviously not a Nazi, in order for Carlson to be equal to Nazi, a Crimefact would have to equal zero and therefore disappear.

  47. Classic Tucker.

    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Am I the only one who thinks Boot looks like Col. Klink?
  48. alternate headline: gamma male finally gets revenge against school bully

  49. @Clifford Brown

    Research cited by BuzzFeed finds....
     
    Yeah, that is your first problem right there. I believe that The NY Times has been on a downward trajectory for years, but the complete collapse of The Washington Post into clickbait mediocrity is utterly depressing. It was not too long ago that The Washington Post was a respected, reserved, if perhaps, slightly square publication. Literally, the staid, practical voice of the Washington Establishment.

    I also remember when Slate was an intellectual, provocative and respectable read. Our society's abandonment of logical discourse will be our collective downfall.

    I also remember when Slate was an intellectual, provocative and respectable read. Our society’s abandonment of logical discourse will be our collective downfall.

    It started that way under Michael Kinsley’s editorship. It went downhill after he left.

  50. @Clifford Brown
    Looks like some Tucker Carlson fans struck at Columbia University in Manhattan!!!! What is most shocking is that the vandals even managed to draw the swastikas correctly this time. That means we are dealing with some real Ivy League Nazis.

    I sure hope Columbia University invested in some security cameras so we can catch whoever did this...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6440903/Columbia-University-professors-finds-swastikas-spray-painted-office-walls.html

    This isn’t the first time her office has been vandalized with anti-Semitic blasphemy.

    Blasphemy! Wow! Apparently, they are no longer merely God’s Chosen People, but Gods themselves.

    Wouldn’t real Nazis use black spray paint for a swastika? The swastika in the flag was black.

    I also note that the vandalism was inside her office. Isn’t it normally locked?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    These swastikas are at least not dyslexic.
    , @Anon
    I agree that the epithet "Yid" is weird. I'd never heard of it before. I bet the usual suspect black punk antisemites in New York have never heard of it. I bet that garden variety white Nazis have never heard of it. Who would such a slur point to? Is it regional? Is it something only a septuagenarian would know?

    Whatever, I really hope this one is solved. There's got to be video footage somewhere on the route to and from the office. I want to know who did it.
    , @MarkinLA
    No self-respecting Aryan would post a swastika that wasn't rotated 45 degrees like most Nazi flags and emblems were. Flat sided swastikas were relatively rare.
  51. I think it is more of the transitive property than the commutative.

    Transitive: If a=b and b=c then a=c
    Commutative: a+b = b+a

  52. @Intelligent Dasein
    Neither the commutative nor the associative property pertains here, but you could easily display the fallacy of the reasoning with a Venn diagram or by using first order predicate calculus.

    The commutative property refers to the order of the operands. Example: 5 +3 = 3 +5.

    The associative property refers to the grouping of the operations. Example: 5 + (3 + 6) = (5 + 3) + 6.

    But the example Steve is referring to actually has to do with what can be predicated of what. The "Commutive Law of Crimethink" states something like "If x is both a and b, then if y is an x then y is a b." This is invalid in a couple of different ways, both because conjunctions are not truth preserving and because there is no way to discharge the consequent of the second conditional.

    Seems more like “If X is A and Y is A and B, the X is B”

    where X = Carlson, Y = DStormer, A = Doesn’t like Immigration, and B = Very Bad person.

  53. Wemple’s performance had many shortcomings alright, but a major one was that he was too fair, pondering Carlson’s jabs in a slow, yet good-faith way: he definitely strikes me as a ‘one S.D.’ pundit. Had he done his homework, he’d have seen that Carlson tolerates any amount of opposition nonsense as long as it’s two loudmouths talking over one another. All Carlson’s regular leftist guests learned this long ago.

    And Wemple got one good hook in: Carlson’s high voice when things get heated is irritating.

    But don’t get me wrong – when it comes to the MSM, Tucker Carlson is far and away the best thing we have. And his self-control on not descending totally into the weeds on public media after his home, wife and daughter were attacked on two separate occasions suggests he probably has a great deal of fortitude and personal courage.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Tucker isn't taking the threat of physical violence seriously. He should consider that when and if the "unthinkable" happens, the MSM and all correct-thinking people will agree that he had it coming.

    Articles like this one from Erik Wemple are simply laying the groundwork for this. Underestimating the enemy can be fatal.

  54. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    Absolutely spot on.

    The guy is still smarting from the intellectual beat down he took from Tucker.

    So he tries to land a sucker punch in the dishonest scumbag style of the liberal.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    We are all (well, almost all :) ) back in High School/Gymnasium/Baccalaureate school....ALL THE TIME!* We still react - doesn't matter what country you live in; you just want revenge.

    *sheesh, I came across, of at least, 20 articles, of "how to not fight at the dinner table during the Holidays," these last 2 weeks.

  55. The bad person who apparently approves of Carlson is of course a mostly fictional character, created as part of an AstroTurf campaign by the actual bad guys. Isn’t it interesting how the WaPo name drops the creator and the website name? The creep from Louisiana isn’t effective anymore, so they’ve been spawning a new generation of fake rightwing freaks.

    Also, is it just me or is Steve signaling to us that he ghost wrote Carlson’s book? How did Carlson find the time to write a book, with such Sailerian clear prose, containing a dense message, as Steve asked? It was STEVE I tells ya!

    Always thought it was strange that Steve never wrote another book. Then it hit me, he’s probably been ghost writing. Let’s hope Ann gave him a good deal, if I’m right.

  56. From the introduction to Anne Applebaum’s “Iron Curtain”:

    Certain patterns were followed almost everywhere: first the elimination of “right-wing” or anticommunist parties, then the destruction of the noncommunist left, then the elimination of opposition within the communist party itself.

  57. @Mr. Anon

    This isn't the first time her office has been vandalized with anti-Semitic blasphemy.
     
    Blasphemy! Wow! Apparently, they are no longer merely God's Chosen People, but Gods themselves.

    Wouldn't real Nazis use black spray paint for a swastika? The swastika in the flag was black.

    I also note that the vandalism was inside her office. Isn't it normally locked?

    These swastikas are at least not dyslexic.

  58. I find it funny that the Washington Post is owned by the richest guy in the world, but employs the dumbest journalists.

  59. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    I think it’s closest to the transitive property.

    If a=b and b=c … then a=c.

  60. The upshot is that the Fox News host dresses his version of this ideology in belletristic flourishes

    Erik Wemple did educate me tonight. I’d never heard of the word belletristic. I doubt I’ll ever see it again after tonight, but at least he did enlighten me.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Yeah, me neither. I thought "Belletristic" was the Helen Bonham Carter character in the Harry Potter movies.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Wemple’s phrase “belletristic flourishes” was itself a belletristic flourish.
  61. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    This isn't the first time her office has been vandalized with anti-Semitic blasphemy.
     
    Blasphemy! Wow! Apparently, they are no longer merely God's Chosen People, but Gods themselves.

    Wouldn't real Nazis use black spray paint for a swastika? The swastika in the flag was black.

    I also note that the vandalism was inside her office. Isn't it normally locked?

    I agree that the epithet “Yid” is weird. I’d never heard of it before. I bet the usual suspect black punk antisemites in New York have never heard of it. I bet that garden variety white Nazis have never heard of it. Who would such a slur point to? Is it regional? Is it something only a septuagenarian would know?

    Whatever, I really hope this one is solved. There’s got to be video footage somewhere on the route to and from the office. I want to know who did it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Its' not an obscure epithet; at least it didn't used to be. A lot of neo-nazis would probably know it. If anything, use of that term makes it more likely to be a white guy, I would think.
    , @duncsbaby
    Yiddish literally means Jewish. In a way it's not a epithet. It's entirely accurate.

    History and Etymology for Yiddish

    Yiddish yidish, short for yidish daytsh, literally, Jewish German, from Middle High German jüdisch diutsch, from jüdisch Jewish (from Jude Jew) + diutsch German

     

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Yiddish
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    This was a big hit in the 30s, and as late as the 60s Tom Jones was singing it - he probably learned it from HIS "mam".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Yiddishe_Momme

  62. @Buzz Mohawk

    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.
     
    Certainly at least someone on his staff would be reading this site. That would be expected of staff for others as well, including the president. Leaders themselves don't have to be the ones reading here, though some of them might be.

    Tucker reads this site. I am almost shocked at how ideas I cherish here are said on TV. Steve is the most original thinker I have run across.

    When I studied Philosophy as an undergraduate it occurred to me that there were very few new ideas. Some philosopher said something and in the next 50 to 100 years the idea percolated through the culture.

    I don’t mean to suck up to our host, but really, Steve is saying something original. It is very rare. I tend to agree with him when he does so.

  63. Totally OT: have you ever wondered what the media would look like in a country that didn’t have 57 genders and wasn’t importing millions of helots to impoverish the working class?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=144&v=l_qr-4AKM18

  64. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    Commutativity is “a * b = b * a”, so I don’t feel that the term works. What exactly the logic is is a bit harder to pin down. It might be pretending that “likes” is a symmetric relation, even though it’s obviously asymmetric. (“John likes Mary” does not imply “Mary likes John.”)

    Alternatively, it might be something closer to “John likes Mary, and John is racist, so Mary must be racist too.” Almost a sort of affectational infection.

  65. The good part is: Tucker is cynical – he can deal with this take-down that has officially started…He knew it from the moment his wife was freaking out alone, while those rich, white (every single one of them – black people would know to stay away from a national figure) goons spray painted the drive way, clubbed the door, and damaged cars/garage doors. At this point, we all need body-cams. I got one for Christmas! I am so gonna be soooo Dirty Harry in the future, bwahahahaaa!

  66. I think the Daily Stormer was brave to run an anti-obesity campaign last year.

  67. So according to The Revolting Elites…..Tucker Carlson is guilty of a TERRIBLE CRIME!!!

    And what could this great crime be?

    Answer:HERESEY!!!!!!!!!!

  68. @Buzz Mohawk

    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.
     
    Certainly at least someone on his staff would be reading this site. That would be expected of staff for others as well, including the president. Leaders themselves don't have to be the ones reading here, though some of them might be.

    Let’s not spoil it…that is , too.

  69. “White nationalist figure Christopher Cantwell said, “It sounds to me like we got a problem with people who got here illegally altering the landscape politically. I don’t like it. F— you. Stop it.”

    Risky move by Mr. Wemple. Smart guy Carlson makes statements about immigration and political change. Not so smart guy Wemple draws connection between Carlson statements and statement by WN figure Cantwell. Makes guy like me, who’s never heard of Cantwell and doesn’t generally follow WN, think maybe I’d better look through the Web and see what Cantwell might have to say.

  70. Carlson has consistently pursued storylines and polemical themes that please racists

    I’ve noticed that lefties will not only refuse to cooperate with people they perceive as racists, they will sometimes go against their own ideology if it means being on the opposite side of racists. Here are some examples.

    We saw how code pink and other left-wing anti-war groups refused to join forces with the anti-war right represented by the likes of Pat Buchanan because they believed he opposed the war on racial grounds. That is he did not want to waste American resources on brown people. So rather than try to form a larger anti-war coalition, they remained small.

    Environmentalists used to believe that overpopulation was bad. They used to preach against a rapidly increasing US population because of the strain on the natural environment that would entail. However, when they realized racists opposed immigration because it would diminish the white population, they changed their tune.

    I am beginning to think that a potential political play for right-wingers is to support a policy they don’t like in the hopes that it will become tainted as being something racists support. Then the left will reflexively move away from their position. For example, I recently saw some bloggers touting the cold wave. They claimed that extreme cold and a return to the little ice age would discourage third worlders from settling in northern nations.

    What are the chances that the left would change its stance on global warming if this meme that racists welcome global cooling were to take off? Think about it. If racists are welcoming a cooling of global temperatures doesn’t that mean we should start pumping CO2 and other green house gases to the max to increase global temperatures? After all if the racists want it cooler, then the right answer must be to make it hotter.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  71. @lavoisier
    Absolutely spot on.

    The guy is still smarting from the intellectual beat down he took from Tucker.

    So he tries to land a sucker punch in the dishonest scumbag style of the liberal.

    We are all (well, almost all 🙂 ) back in High School/Gymnasium/Baccalaureate school….ALL THE TIME!* We still react – doesn’t matter what country you live in; you just want revenge.

    *sheesh, I came across, of at least, 20 articles, of “how to not fight at the dinner table during the Holidays,” these last 2 weeks.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    Yes, that is true.

    Tucker plastering the poor guy's face on the coffee mug to mock him was not too nice either.

    Wemple had to go for the balls and for the liberals that means calling someone either a racist or an anti-Semite.
    , @Twinkie

    We are all (well, almost all :) ) back in High School
     
    Yes, I can indeed sense your desperation. :)
  72. @scrivener3
    Tucker reads this site because most of his new found popularity is due to his leaking out into the MSM some Isteve ideas. He even uses our terminology.

    I would love to see Tucker do a segment on why in 2008, when 80 per cent of America disapproved, the Congress of the United Stated bailed out the big banks.

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid and the failure to repay would cause unbelievable pain and suffering yet they were raking in money and could not stop themselves.

    I said, they are going to go bust because of this stupidity. I was wrong. We paid a trillion dollars to stop them from going bust.

    The press should be on this. To ignore this story is to support the corruption in the Swamp.

    Actually, the government made a ton of money on that bailout. $96.5 Billion at the latest count, and this includes ~$12.5 Billion loss on GM and Chrysler.

    Goldman Sachs, to pick a random example, got a $10 Billion bailout and 7 months later paid back $11.4 Billion. That’s a pretty nice effective interest rate.

    • Replies: @Lot
    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda, and like saying "I paid back the money I embezzled and gambled, with interest, so what's the harm!"

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%. In other words, taxpayer dollars were extended on non-commercial terms to evil, criminal companies like Goldman and more especially AIG, which was insolvent and owed Goldman billions.
    , @scrivener3
    Ask Warren Buffet what he would have charged Goldman to make them liquid. When you owe the US Govt a lot of money they have ways to make sure you can pay back. My God, the flick of a pinkie of a bureaucrat can add or remove 1.1 billion from Goldman's bottom line.

    But my point is 80 percent of Americans did not want the banks bailed out. Whether it was a good investment or not. They did not want it and their government gave it to them. The end of government by the people and for the people. Next they tried voting for Trump and various govt agencies are trying to undo that.
    , @MarkinLA
    How much of that money that the banks paid back came from the Fed buying their worthless mortgages at par?
  73. @Cato

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid
     
    Everyone thought the subprime game was pretty safe. First, bundling a whole bunch of mortgages into a security means DIVERSIFICATION, and everyone knows that reduces risk. Second, credit default swaps were a way of getting INSURANCE on those securities, and everyone knows that almost eliminates risk. Third, the FED is controlled by Wall Street, and everyone knows that guarantees profits.

    And they were right. About the third point, if not the first two.

    Ugh, no. I knew it would end in tears. I did not know it would end in MY TEARS. You do not feel the pain yet but you will.

  74. Incredible. He destroyed that bug man

  75. I read the comments section. The thoughtless spite on display was “chilling”. How typical are those people? If they make up a significant fraction of the population, you are one election away from trouble.

    They think they have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them and they will import enough Hondurans to allow them to finish the job. Labeling someone a Nazi is all it takes. The accusation doesn’t even have to be true. They have no thought to the future; they just want to crush their ideological enemies now.

    I have just watched an old Granada TV documentary from the UK on the Spanish Civil War. The two sides stopped thinking of each other as human and half a million people ended up dead, half as battle casualties and half executed.

    I don’t think the US is far from that.

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    • Replies: @anon

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?
     
    Our best hope is that it splits apart.
    If it stays united it will be united under a Left-wing Fascist government.
    , @Richard S

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?
     
    I would speculate that among serving combat soldiers and special/elite units, a certain intense nationalistic patriotism is prevalent?

    Perhaps sometimes even to the extent of occasionally slipping into bad taste..?
    , @Colin Wright
    'Is the US army united or could it split apart?'

    Doesn't matter. I believe virtually all the elite combat troops are white.
  76. The commutative property is when a+b=b+a. I think that this is more like the transitive property: When a=b and b=c, then a=c.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    If Tucker Carls0n is an nxn square MATRIX OF EVIL!!!....transitivity does not follow....communitivity does not imply transitivity......but since commuting matrices are normal matrices..... Tucker Carlson’s RACISM!! is normal........and I might add.....quite healthy!!!
  77. @Svigor
    The whole concept of journalistic pedigree or standing is laughable. "Prestige" and "glamour" are applicable terms, though.

    (Sorry Steve, but your former profession is packed to the rafters with subhuman scum).

    … your former profession …

    Whaaa? I thought Steve Sailer’s former career was in marketing. No? Golf course design?

  78. @anon
    No, he is just a 9 year old in a grown up's body.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciu0XjWucg&t=20

  79. @Buzz Mohawk
    Well, it's algebraic anyway:

    Carlson(Crimefact) = Nazi(Crimefact)

    Therefore, Carlson = Nazi

    If their logic is true, wouldn't Crimefact = 0 and therefore be nothing?

    Aha! That's how they make crimefacts disappear!

    Tucker irritates some people just like Tom Brady irritates football-heads.

    Tom…Totally, OT: but, Tom of Finland was very right wing! Most people think he was a leftie homo, but he came from money (never forgot that), and was a Finnish patriot who respected the war effort to keep Finland free. He understood he was different but did not blame people.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Tom of Finland is never OT here.
    , @duncsbaby
    Was there a Tom of Finland junior to carry on the flame?
  80. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    It’s some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property:

    A believes C
    B believes C
    -> A and B are the same!

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    It’s some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property
     
    I used similar straw man reasoning in college to discredit my left-wing interlocutors, e.g. “I like highways, Hitler built Autobahns, so Hitler and I are the same.” So often I saw deer caught in the headlight looks, and this was supposed to be an Ivy League university.
  81. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    The name of the fallacy in Wimple’s article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn’t one that will fit precisely.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    That's it.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    It’s ok to affirm the consequent in this case...for if Tucker Carlson was not a RACIST!!!!....Tucker Carlson would not be normal.....and by Homotopic Type Theory...everyone is homotopic to a racist......
    , @anon
    This is also the fallacy of arguing guilt by association.
    It's a good exercise to name the many fallacies commited every day by progressive media and celebrities. Mostly their arguments are just straighforward slander.
    Socrates argued that reason is the only virtue. Committing fallacies isn't just a technical error in logic. Fallacies are sins. They indicate bad intentions. Every fallacy is an attack on truth, which is an attack on human life.
    People who commit fallacies cause war and crime and murder. People who commit fallacies do not care about human life. People who recklessly and knowingly commit fallacies are evil.
    We should say this every time the Left commits fallacies.
    , @Neil Templeton
    If the WNs ever get their own nation they can design a "Wemple Test" to decide who is brain-warm enough to live in their community.
    , @candid_observer
    Yeah, if I had to pick a particular deductive fallacy to cover this case, I'd go with affirming the consequent. Undistributed middle is so Aristotlean.

    Two step argument:

    Step 1:


    If someone is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn't think diversity is our strength.

    Ergo,

    If Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn't think diversity is our strength. (Universal Instantiation)
     

    Step 2

    If Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn't think diversity is our strength. (from Step 1)

    Tucker opposes immigration and doesn't think diversity is our strength.

    Ergo (hold onto your hats, here comes the fallacy!),

    Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper.
     

    This is the modern treatment.

    Frege Lives! (And Coppe!)

    I, on the other hand, don't much like calling out arguments like Wimple's as representing a particular fallacy, especially not deductive fallacies (how often do we think purely deductively, anyway?). I like calling them really, really Stupid, and convincing only to Stupid people.

    , @AnotherDad


    The name of the fallacy in Wimple’s article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle ...
     
    Thanks Lot. I looked it up, then did a review of this concept of "distribution" (which i'd figured out from the example).

    I've often thought that students should get a course in logic. I think any college student should have a solid grounding in history, geography. But i do think we skew education too much to particulars--now with this destructive anti-education "victimology" nonsense--and don't drill down on basic competence in reasoning abilities.

    We have these political and journalistic "elites" who are on the whole
    -- mediocre with data (analysis, charts, graphs)
    -- poor in statistical and probablistic reasoning
    -- innumerate
    -- lack basic logical reasoning.

    One listens to the typical mainstream media in America and thinks "in a country of over 300 million this is the best we've got?"
  82. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This Wemple guy is a media critic? Given that the Media are mostly Jewish-Zionist dominated, globo-homo imperialist, pro-oligarchic, and quasi-pornographic, shouldn’t Wemple direct his fire at the true controllers of the Media? Tucker Carlson, whatever his failings, is invaluable because he goes against the consensus of either Jewish supremacism or cuckery to Jewish globo-homo power.

    In other words, Carlson raises questions that challenges and upsets power-brokers of both the Conservatism Inc and Liberalism Inc. In contrast, Wemple is just a predictable dog, a sockpuppet who is incapable of thinking, writing, or saying ANYTHING that goes against current dogma and narrative of PC. Wemple might as well be a robot or a program. He writes to please his masters.
    He calls himself a ‘progressive’, but he is the darling of the richest, most powerful, and most hypocritical people in America. He does their bidding. He’s a shill.

    If I have a criticism of Carlson, it is that he is unwilling to touch on the most important topic in America: Jewish Elite Power. Even he won’t go there. I mean, isn’t it strange that the ONE thing that both Democrats and Republicans are agreed on is Israel, Israel, Israel? And in hating whatever Jews hate? Jews hate Iran, Russia, Syria, and Palestinians; therefore, GOP and Democratic Party hate them too. Ironically, Trump was called a ‘nazi’ because he ran as a peace candidate. He called for easing tensions with Russia, ending war in Syria, and denouncing Neocon imperialism in Iraq. He also denounced the destruction of Libya by war criminals Obama and Hillary who, like Bush and Cheney, tried to appease Jewish supremacist power.
    Of course, Trump in office has been pressured by Deep State to continue the Hate Campaign against Russia(esp over Ukraine where the US aided Neo-Nazis to topple the government there). And Trump can’t leave Syria because it wouldn’t be good for Jews. Trump can’t cut ties with Saudis because… it’d be bad for Israel. And Trump can’t leave Afghanistan either. Deep State imperialists demand that US remain. And there is endless hate against Iran. Who is pushing all this hate? Jewish Power. Does Wemple have anything to say about that, the fact that the #1 source of globalist hatred if Jewish Power?
    Nationalists and Alt Rights, with a few exceptions, want no more imperialism. No more US military imperialism and financial imperialism to bully other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism to mass-invade the West, turning it into a bigger version of West Bank where endless Jewish migration-invasion is erasing Palestinian nationhood.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but all the great Nazi crimes had to do with breaking down borders, invading others, interfering in other nations, making wars, and spreading hatred. Well, what is globalism about? It’s about US military and Wall Street breaking down national borders. Look what broken borders did to Libya and Syria. US and its allies exploited weakened borders to send tons of terrorist Jihadis into Libya and Syria to wreak havoc. Both nations look like Poland after Germans ravaged it in WWII. But Israel loved it because a modern secular Arab nation was torn apart by ISIS and Alqaeda zealots.
    Now, did Hitler want peace with Russia? No, he waged a Hate Campaign and Massive War on Russia, and that resulted in the biggest deaths and realized Shoah to its fullest extent. And yet, we are now told that Trump was a ‘nazi’ in 2016 for calling for more cordial relations with Russia. He sure is a strange kind of ‘hitler’ who wanted to de-escalate Middle East Wars and improve relations with Russia. But then, he couldn’t drain the swamp that pulled him in. And so, we have more tensions in Middle East and more hatred against Russia. And Jews are happy.

    And I fail to see why any sane person is for mass immigration. Palestine was destroyed by mass immigration by Jews. Serbs lost their ancestral Kosovo because of mass immigration-invasion by Muslim Albanians under Turkic rule. Just as Turks allowed mass Muslim invasion into Balkans, Jewish elites call on non-whites to serve as their demographic mercenary force against whites. Mass migration of Anglos to the SW territories led to Mexico losing a huge chunk of land in the 19th century. Today, the process is reversed, and whites are losing out in the region to massive tides of browns. If a people can’t stop mass-immigration, they will lose their land to another people. It’s really that simple. Just ask the Palestinians. After all, Latin America is called such because Latins invaded and mass-immigrated there and pushed aside the native browns(who still live in poverty). It is the product of mass immigration-imperialism and invasion.

    And what is wrong with white nationalism? Nationalism is liberation and independence. To have nationalism, a people need emancipation and independence. Asian Indians couldn’t have nationalism until they drove out British imperialists and gained independence. Algerians couldn’t have their own Algerian Nationalism until they pushed out French colonialists.
    So, nationalism and national independence are the fruits of liberation and independence. Then, what is White Nationalism? It means white people seeking liberation and freedom from the tyranny of Jewish supremacism, globo-homo imperialims(that uses white soldiers as cannon fodder in Wars for Israel), black thuggery, and Diversity Mania. Why shouldn’t white people be free? Why must they cuck before Jews and serve Jews and Israel but not white identity and interests? And if white identity is evil, why is Jewish identity good? If identity is wrong and even evil, why don’t Jews give up their own identity and have open borders in Israel?
    When Jews attack white nationalism, it is really to suppress white identity to make whites serve Jewish identity and interests. It is not an attack on nationalism per se. Jews want whites to serve Jewish identity, and that means white identity must be shamed. That way, whites have no choice but serve another identity that is deemed holy, and of course, Jewish Identity is oh-so-perfect, and whites must fight more Wars for Israel and support Zionist tyranny over Palestinians and hate Russia because Russia said NO to globo-homo imperialism.

    If ‘white nationalists’ were imperialist and sought domination over OTHER peoples, that could be evil. But white nationalist message is ‘leave other peoples and nations alone and respect their sovereignty; in turn, white nations and peoples must be left alone to have their own lands and culture.’ Sounds good to me. After all, didn’t the progressive community revile US involvement in Vietnam on grounds that US imperialists were messing with another land and people? Didn’t they support Vietnamese nationalism and liberation? Progressives were also on the side of Cuban nationalism against US casino-gangster-CIA imperialism. Let Viets and Cubans be independent and forge their own destiny as people and culture?
    Well then, why shouldn’t whites have this right? Why must they serve Jewish supremacists? Why must they hate whatever Jews hate. Why should whites in America hate Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc? Why should whites hate themselves as Jews insist that they do? Why should whites be pathetic cucks like Wemple, a mealy mouthed weasel who does the bidding of Jewish supremacists. I guarantee that this doggy hates whatever Jews hate. I’ll bet he hates Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc. I’ll bet he’s a good boy, so obedient and well-trained to bark. When Obama and Hillary the war criminals were wasting Libya and Syria, I’ll bet Wemple had nothing to say. When Jews used their media power to turn Homomania into a neo-religion of Gay Rites, I’ll bet Wemple was totally supportive. This guy is a shill, a dog, a puppet. No agency, no guts. He really hates Carlson out of envy. Carlson is a free man, relatively speaking. He has the spine and balls to ask questions that are not supposed to be asked. Of course, Carlson doesn’t go far enough, but he does question ‘conventional wisdom’ like ‘diversity is our strength’. I would go further and state that Diversity is Imperialism. It certainly is the product of imperialism. The Diversity that is celebrated so much in the New World is the result of imperialism, genocide, slave trade, and massive immigration-imperialism that pretty much decimated the native original populations of the Americas. This Diversity in South America led to importation of millions of black slaves and deaths of tens of millions of browns by disease and rape of tons of brown women. Carlson doesn’t go that far, but he did raise the question. While it’s true that the discovery of New World also led to rise of great civilizations and tremendous advances for mankind, the human cost was extremely high. And many native peoples and cultures were effectively wiped off the face of the earth. So, next time these progs yammer about Diversity, they should look into the history that brought it about.

    As for the Alt Right, Anglin is a nutter, and Daily Stormer is a clownfest. Its outlandish headlines speak for themselves. But most in the Alt Right are not like Anglin, a fact that Wemple overlooks. They are anti-imperialist and their nationalism is about mutual respect among nations. End of imperialism, which means no more American military and financial imperialism against other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism against the West that, if unchecked, will turn the West into the Third World. Large parts of London now look like Africa or Pakistan.

    Besides, since whites ‘stole’ the US from American Indians, it’s their moral duty to end further immigration-invasion because American Indians have been invaded enough. It’s bad enough that Indians lost their land to whites(and blacks). Why must they lose their ancestral land to peoples from all over the world. Since whites took Indian land, whites must make amends to Indians, and first and foremost priority is to stop further immigration-invasion. If whites should be doing anything, it is to restore more land to American Indians.

    Another good thing about the Alt Right is it is willing to discuss the JQ that is totally essential in a nation where Jews are the ruling elites. True criticism, true journalism, and true discourse must be free to speak truth to power, and the Top Power in the US is held by Jews, a fact that wussy Wemple will never address.

    Wemple is supposed to be a Media Critic, but he never touches on the fact that Jews control almost all the media and use the media to promote Jewish supremacism, Zionist imperialism, Hate Campaigns(against any nation or people hated by Jews), etc. He’s not a Media CRITIC but a Media Shill. He’s a dog who barks for his Zionist masters who hate white nationalism because white liberation and white independence means that whites no longer suppress their own identity and interests in order to serve Jewish identity and interests.
    Nationalism results from emancipation and independence. Whites of Alt Right don’t want to rule over others. They want liberation from others. They don’t want to cuck to Zionist supremacism. They don’t want to be beaten up by stronger blacks and emasculated into wussy cuck-boys like Wemple who has zero sympathy for white victims of black violence in South Africa.
    Also, white nationalists don’t want their lands in Europe and America to be taken over by non-white immigrant-invaders who run from their own nations & peoples and come to the West to leech off white achievement. It’s the same between Africa and Europe. Blacks totally mess up their own nations and want to come to Europe to leech off whitey.

    In the past, white imperialism sought dominion over non-whites and non-white lands. Today, white nationalists simply want to preserve their own nations and leave other peoples alone. But that is denounced as ‘racist’. Well, if that is ‘racist’, what is wrong with ‘racism’? Sounds good to me. Sounds like formula for world peace and mutual respect among peoples.

    • Replies: @Lot
    "globo-homo imperialist"

    Nothing wrong with that!

    https://www.hipstamp.com/uploads/cache/0435c6848deabd3b0a9805f4ee85e561-460x526.png
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I wondered whatever happened to Priss Factor. She's back!
  83. @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    That’s it.

  84. @MBlanc46
    The commutative property is when a+b=b+a. I think that this is more like the transitive property: When a=b and b=c, then a=c.

    If Tucker Carls0n is an nxn square MATRIX OF EVIL!!!….transitivity does not follow….communitivity does not imply transitivity……but since commuting matrices are normal matrices….. Tucker Carlson’s RACISM!! is normal……..and I might add…..quite healthy!!!

  85. @inertial
    Actually, the government made a ton of money on that bailout. $96.5 Billion at the latest count, and this includes ~$12.5 Billion loss on GM and Chrysler.

    Goldman Sachs, to pick a random example, got a $10 Billion bailout and 7 months later paid back $11.4 Billion. That's a pretty nice effective interest rate.

    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda, and like saying “I paid back the money I embezzled and gambled, with interest, so what’s the harm!”

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%. In other words, taxpayer dollars were extended on non-commercial terms to evil, criminal companies like Goldman and more especially AIG, which was insolvent and owed Goldman billions.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @inertial

    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda,
     
    You are moving the goalposts, but no matter. Crony capitalism is bad but you know what's 100 times worse? A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it. In fact, it already started on the institutional level and it would be only a matter of days before it filtered down to the public.

    No American living today can even begin to imagine the full effect of such an event. Trust me, punishing banksters would not be worth it.

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%.
     
    That would be quite a trick, because if we are looking at the period when GS first received and then paid back the money, S&P 500 returned ~3%.
    , @Trevor H.
    Thanks for mentioning AIG. People forget.
  86. I couldn’t care less what Wemple thinks – or, more accurately, doesn’t – but belletristic is my new favorite word.

  87. As of this writing, you changed the property in the post title but not the text. Transitive property seems most apropos.

  88. @Whiskey
    Over/ under in Carlsons firing? I give him no more than three weeks.

    Carlson is no moderate. For White men to even exist is a far right Nazi position. Wanting Europe and America to be White is literally Hitler. Nice White ladies if not decapitated will not stand for that. They can't even.

    the thing is: women love Tucker..he is the perfect guy. He has 4 well-adjusted children; lovely wife who is the mother of his children (no 2nds or Trophy wives) – youngest is almost 17. He also, is very pleasant. He is like many wealthy Wasps & Wascs I knew in the 70’s & 80’s: great manners, polite; can speak to my great aunt Kristina…or the mechanic who repaired his daughter’s car. Yes, he is privileged, but so are so many today – everyone in the public sphere, in the light.

    But, women (j’adore Tucker) like Tucker because he reminds them of daddy, or the daddy they wanted (he has 3 daughters).

    Tucker also, has a great relationship with his father. And, this fact alone, makes people envious. I can tell y’all, many people I have known for a long time, were always envious/curious of my close relationship with my parents (who were intense and often difficult!). But, the love is something you can not explain to people. The love that hurts because they are no longer here.

    So, Tucker is today’s news guy who is as hated as my lovely, football Tom because he is Woke! He sees thru the bullshit of the Republicans and Democrats….the last 30 years of deception and subterfuge.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    women love Tucker..he is the perfect guy.
     
    You should speak for yourself. He’s fine as far as a tv personality goes, but he has a strong pencil-neck vibe to him. Some women prefer men who are manly.
  89. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    Commutative property: a + b = b + a (order of elements doesn’t matter)
    Associative property: (a+b)+c = a+(b+c) (order of operations doesn’t matter)
    Distributive property: a*(b+c) = a*b + b*c (relationship between multiplication and addition)
    Transitive property: if a=b and b=c then a=c

    The law Steve has identified is of the form “If A has property P, and B has properties P and R, then A has property R”, where P = noticing a certain phenomenon, R = being a racist. I don’t know of a mathematical law of this form. Maybe the name of this law can be found in a list of logical fallacies.

    • Replies: @Portlander
    I've always called it the reverse bandwagon fallacy. Scare normies away from listening to the arguments of a person by suggesting that person is liked by losers.

    It's one of the oldest tricks in the media. They'll bring out David Duke and use it every time there's a political outsider making hay.
  90. @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    It’s ok to affirm the consequent in this case…for if Tucker Carlson was not a RACIST!!!!….Tucker Carlson would not be normal…..and by Homotopic Type Theory…everyone is homotopic to a racist……

  91. @inertial
    Actually, the government made a ton of money on that bailout. $96.5 Billion at the latest count, and this includes ~$12.5 Billion loss on GM and Chrysler.

    Goldman Sachs, to pick a random example, got a $10 Billion bailout and 7 months later paid back $11.4 Billion. That's a pretty nice effective interest rate.

    Ask Warren Buffet what he would have charged Goldman to make them liquid. When you owe the US Govt a lot of money they have ways to make sure you can pay back. My God, the flick of a pinkie of a bureaucrat can add or remove 1.1 billion from Goldman’s bottom line.

    But my point is 80 percent of Americans did not want the banks bailed out. Whether it was a good investment or not. They did not want it and their government gave it to them. The end of government by the people and for the people. Next they tried voting for Trump and various govt agencies are trying to undo that.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Agree. Last I read Buffet made 62% on his Goldman financial crisis investment. Might be more now. And that kind of understates it became it was structured to limit his downside.
  92. @Simple Psuedonym
    Hate speech a meaningless cliche of recent invention by parasite such as you. I'll say exactly as I please.

    After hubris cometh the fall mongrel..

    “Hate speech” isn’t a meaningless cliché. It’s a euphemism for “blasphemy”, somewhat generalized to include sacred values/groups/ideas/symbols beyond those typically regarded as religious.

  93. 2647089

    And I’ll tell ya…Google Executives, who know a thing or two about eigenvectors and eigenvalues….are truely REVOLTING!!!…darn tootin they are….

  94. @istevefan

    The upshot is that the Fox News host dresses his version of this ideology in belletristic flourishes
     
    Erik Wemple did educate me tonight. I'd never heard of the word belletristic. I doubt I'll ever see it again after tonight, but at least he did enlighten me.

    Yeah, me neither. I thought “Belletristic” was the Helen Bonham Carter character in the Harry Potter movies.

  95. Hi Steve: I think that you might find this article interesting. Maybe, you could write a blog post about it? Thanks…

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2018/11/evangelicals-vote-nones-falter/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=share_bar

    In the 2018 election, America’s shrinking segment of white evangelicals mobilized strongly for the Republican Party – but the rising cohort of nonreligious Americans failed to exert their full political power.

    As secularism grows relentlessly, white evangelicals have declined to a mere 15 percent of the U.S. population (down from 20 percent in 2012). But they’re so ardent for conservative causes that they constituted 26 percent among the 113 million voters who cast ballots on Nov. 6. And they gave three-fourths of their votes to GOP candidates, according to exit polls.

    In contrast, Americans who say their religion is “none” have climbed to one-fourth of the population, but they were only 17 percent of voters this year. Skeptic-agnostic-disinterested folks apparently shun politics along with church worship.

    I think it’s a shame that “nones” mostly shrug while white evangelicals throw themselves into elections. Nonreligious Americans tend to hold liberal, compassionate, progressive views, and if their full potential could be realized, the nation’s values would improve.

    Prodding “nones” to become politically active – to show them the importance of democracy involvement – should be a top goal of the secular movement.

    On the other side, prodding is fierce among white evangelicals. A New York Times report titled “God’s Red Army” outlined a massive fundamentalist blitz designed to generate born-again votes for Republicans on Election Day.

    For example, Ralph Reed’s Faith & Freedom Coalition budgeted $18 million “to micro-target around 125 million social conservative voters across 19 different states through door-to-door interactions, digital ads, phone calls and mailers,” The Christian Post reported. A total of 28 million digital ads were e-mailed to smartphones and laptops on the weekend before balloting.

    • Replies: @MJB
    Having "nones" visit more afflictions on the rest of us isn't a thrilling prospect. What ever happened to MYOB? Of course, that's not State-serving.
    , @Trevor H.
    That they are called "nones" is pretty telling.

    Do we call all people who are devoid of delusional thinking "nones"? Nope. Just in this category.

  96. @scrivener3
    Ask Warren Buffet what he would have charged Goldman to make them liquid. When you owe the US Govt a lot of money they have ways to make sure you can pay back. My God, the flick of a pinkie of a bureaucrat can add or remove 1.1 billion from Goldman's bottom line.

    But my point is 80 percent of Americans did not want the banks bailed out. Whether it was a good investment or not. They did not want it and their government gave it to them. The end of government by the people and for the people. Next they tried voting for Trump and various govt agencies are trying to undo that.

    Agree. Last I read Buffet made 62% on his Goldman financial crisis investment. Might be more now. And that kind of understates it became it was structured to limit his downside.

  97. anon[136] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    This is also the fallacy of arguing guilt by association.
    It’s a good exercise to name the many fallacies commited every day by progressive media and celebrities. Mostly their arguments are just straighforward slander.
    Socrates argued that reason is the only virtue. Committing fallacies isn’t just a technical error in logic. Fallacies are sins. They indicate bad intentions. Every fallacy is an attack on truth, which is an attack on human life.
    People who commit fallacies cause war and crime and murder. People who commit fallacies do not care about human life. People who recklessly and knowingly commit fallacies are evil.
    We should say this every time the Left commits fallacies.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    No one on the left is ever damaged by an accusation of guilt by association. For example, avowed Communists are represented in most left-wing demonstrations and marches, waving the banner of the hammer and sickle under which tens of millions died, but in the eyes of the media that doesn't delegitimize the entire movement, as it decided the Nazi-LARPers did in Charlottesville.

    Hillary's campaign was hurt by her association with Black Lives Matter, but that was an association she embraced, not one that was inferred by others.
  98. @Svigor
    The whole concept of journalistic pedigree or standing is laughable. "Prestige" and "glamour" are applicable terms, though.

    (Sorry Steve, but your former profession is packed to the rafters with subhuman scum).

    “The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits-a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.”

    -Hunter S. Thompson

    • Agree: Svigor
  99. @Anon
    This Wemple guy is a media critic? Given that the Media are mostly Jewish-Zionist dominated, globo-homo imperialist, pro-oligarchic, and quasi-pornographic, shouldn't Wemple direct his fire at the true controllers of the Media? Tucker Carlson, whatever his failings, is invaluable because he goes against the consensus of either Jewish supremacism or cuckery to Jewish globo-homo power.

    In other words, Carlson raises questions that challenges and upsets power-brokers of both the Conservatism Inc and Liberalism Inc. In contrast, Wemple is just a predictable dog, a sockpuppet who is incapable of thinking, writing, or saying ANYTHING that goes against current dogma and narrative of PC. Wemple might as well be a robot or a program. He writes to please his masters.
    He calls himself a 'progressive', but he is the darling of the richest, most powerful, and most hypocritical people in America. He does their bidding. He's a shill.

    If I have a criticism of Carlson, it is that he is unwilling to touch on the most important topic in America: Jewish Elite Power. Even he won't go there. I mean, isn't it strange that the ONE thing that both Democrats and Republicans are agreed on is Israel, Israel, Israel? And in hating whatever Jews hate? Jews hate Iran, Russia, Syria, and Palestinians; therefore, GOP and Democratic Party hate them too. Ironically, Trump was called a 'nazi' because he ran as a peace candidate. He called for easing tensions with Russia, ending war in Syria, and denouncing Neocon imperialism in Iraq. He also denounced the destruction of Libya by war criminals Obama and Hillary who, like Bush and Cheney, tried to appease Jewish supremacist power.
    Of course, Trump in office has been pressured by Deep State to continue the Hate Campaign against Russia(esp over Ukraine where the US aided Neo-Nazis to topple the government there). And Trump can't leave Syria because it wouldn't be good for Jews. Trump can't cut ties with Saudis because... it'd be bad for Israel. And Trump can't leave Afghanistan either. Deep State imperialists demand that US remain. And there is endless hate against Iran. Who is pushing all this hate? Jewish Power. Does Wemple have anything to say about that, the fact that the #1 source of globalist hatred if Jewish Power?
    Nationalists and Alt Rights, with a few exceptions, want no more imperialism. No more US military imperialism and financial imperialism to bully other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism to mass-invade the West, turning it into a bigger version of West Bank where endless Jewish migration-invasion is erasing Palestinian nationhood.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the great Nazi crimes had to do with breaking down borders, invading others, interfering in other nations, making wars, and spreading hatred. Well, what is globalism about? It's about US military and Wall Street breaking down national borders. Look what broken borders did to Libya and Syria. US and its allies exploited weakened borders to send tons of terrorist Jihadis into Libya and Syria to wreak havoc. Both nations look like Poland after Germans ravaged it in WWII. But Israel loved it because a modern secular Arab nation was torn apart by ISIS and Alqaeda zealots.
    Now, did Hitler want peace with Russia? No, he waged a Hate Campaign and Massive War on Russia, and that resulted in the biggest deaths and realized Shoah to its fullest extent. And yet, we are now told that Trump was a 'nazi' in 2016 for calling for more cordial relations with Russia. He sure is a strange kind of 'hitler' who wanted to de-escalate Middle East Wars and improve relations with Russia. But then, he couldn't drain the swamp that pulled him in. And so, we have more tensions in Middle East and more hatred against Russia. And Jews are happy.

    And I fail to see why any sane person is for mass immigration. Palestine was destroyed by mass immigration by Jews. Serbs lost their ancestral Kosovo because of mass immigration-invasion by Muslim Albanians under Turkic rule. Just as Turks allowed mass Muslim invasion into Balkans, Jewish elites call on non-whites to serve as their demographic mercenary force against whites. Mass migration of Anglos to the SW territories led to Mexico losing a huge chunk of land in the 19th century. Today, the process is reversed, and whites are losing out in the region to massive tides of browns. If a people can't stop mass-immigration, they will lose their land to another people. It's really that simple. Just ask the Palestinians. After all, Latin America is called such because Latins invaded and mass-immigrated there and pushed aside the native browns(who still live in poverty). It is the product of mass immigration-imperialism and invasion.

    And what is wrong with white nationalism? Nationalism is liberation and independence. To have nationalism, a people need emancipation and independence. Asian Indians couldn't have nationalism until they drove out British imperialists and gained independence. Algerians couldn't have their own Algerian Nationalism until they pushed out French colonialists.
    So, nationalism and national independence are the fruits of liberation and independence. Then, what is White Nationalism? It means white people seeking liberation and freedom from the tyranny of Jewish supremacism, globo-homo imperialims(that uses white soldiers as cannon fodder in Wars for Israel), black thuggery, and Diversity Mania. Why shouldn't white people be free? Why must they cuck before Jews and serve Jews and Israel but not white identity and interests? And if white identity is evil, why is Jewish identity good? If identity is wrong and even evil, why don't Jews give up their own identity and have open borders in Israel?
    When Jews attack white nationalism, it is really to suppress white identity to make whites serve Jewish identity and interests. It is not an attack on nationalism per se. Jews want whites to serve Jewish identity, and that means white identity must be shamed. That way, whites have no choice but serve another identity that is deemed holy, and of course, Jewish Identity is oh-so-perfect, and whites must fight more Wars for Israel and support Zionist tyranny over Palestinians and hate Russia because Russia said NO to globo-homo imperialism.

    If 'white nationalists' were imperialist and sought domination over OTHER peoples, that could be evil. But white nationalist message is 'leave other peoples and nations alone and respect their sovereignty; in turn, white nations and peoples must be left alone to have their own lands and culture.' Sounds good to me. After all, didn't the progressive community revile US involvement in Vietnam on grounds that US imperialists were messing with another land and people? Didn't they support Vietnamese nationalism and liberation? Progressives were also on the side of Cuban nationalism against US casino-gangster-CIA imperialism. Let Viets and Cubans be independent and forge their own destiny as people and culture?
    Well then, why shouldn't whites have this right? Why must they serve Jewish supremacists? Why must they hate whatever Jews hate. Why should whites in America hate Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc? Why should whites hate themselves as Jews insist that they do? Why should whites be pathetic cucks like Wemple, a mealy mouthed weasel who does the bidding of Jewish supremacists. I guarantee that this doggy hates whatever Jews hate. I'll bet he hates Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc. I'll bet he's a good boy, so obedient and well-trained to bark. When Obama and Hillary the war criminals were wasting Libya and Syria, I'll bet Wemple had nothing to say. When Jews used their media power to turn Homomania into a neo-religion of Gay Rites, I'll bet Wemple was totally supportive. This guy is a shill, a dog, a puppet. No agency, no guts. He really hates Carlson out of envy. Carlson is a free man, relatively speaking. He has the spine and balls to ask questions that are not supposed to be asked. Of course, Carlson doesn't go far enough, but he does question 'conventional wisdom' like 'diversity is our strength'. I would go further and state that Diversity is Imperialism. It certainly is the product of imperialism. The Diversity that is celebrated so much in the New World is the result of imperialism, genocide, slave trade, and massive immigration-imperialism that pretty much decimated the native original populations of the Americas. This Diversity in South America led to importation of millions of black slaves and deaths of tens of millions of browns by disease and rape of tons of brown women. Carlson doesn't go that far, but he did raise the question. While it's true that the discovery of New World also led to rise of great civilizations and tremendous advances for mankind, the human cost was extremely high. And many native peoples and cultures were effectively wiped off the face of the earth. So, next time these progs yammer about Diversity, they should look into the history that brought it about.

    As for the Alt Right, Anglin is a nutter, and Daily Stormer is a clownfest. Its outlandish headlines speak for themselves. But most in the Alt Right are not like Anglin, a fact that Wemple overlooks. They are anti-imperialist and their nationalism is about mutual respect among nations. End of imperialism, which means no more American military and financial imperialism against other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism against the West that, if unchecked, will turn the West into the Third World. Large parts of London now look like Africa or Pakistan.

    Besides, since whites 'stole' the US from American Indians, it's their moral duty to end further immigration-invasion because American Indians have been invaded enough. It's bad enough that Indians lost their land to whites(and blacks). Why must they lose their ancestral land to peoples from all over the world. Since whites took Indian land, whites must make amends to Indians, and first and foremost priority is to stop further immigration-invasion. If whites should be doing anything, it is to restore more land to American Indians.

    Another good thing about the Alt Right is it is willing to discuss the JQ that is totally essential in a nation where Jews are the ruling elites. True criticism, true journalism, and true discourse must be free to speak truth to power, and the Top Power in the US is held by Jews, a fact that wussy Wemple will never address.

    Wemple is supposed to be a Media Critic, but he never touches on the fact that Jews control almost all the media and use the media to promote Jewish supremacism, Zionist imperialism, Hate Campaigns(against any nation or people hated by Jews), etc. He's not a Media CRITIC but a Media Shill. He's a dog who barks for his Zionist masters who hate white nationalism because white liberation and white independence means that whites no longer suppress their own identity and interests in order to serve Jewish identity and interests.
    Nationalism results from emancipation and independence. Whites of Alt Right don't want to rule over others. They want liberation from others. They don't want to cuck to Zionist supremacism. They don't want to be beaten up by stronger blacks and emasculated into wussy cuck-boys like Wemple who has zero sympathy for white victims of black violence in South Africa.
    Also, white nationalists don't want their lands in Europe and America to be taken over by non-white immigrant-invaders who run from their own nations & peoples and come to the West to leech off white achievement. It's the same between Africa and Europe. Blacks totally mess up their own nations and want to come to Europe to leech off whitey.

    In the past, white imperialism sought dominion over non-whites and non-white lands. Today, white nationalists simply want to preserve their own nations and leave other peoples alone. But that is denounced as 'racist'. Well, if that is 'racist', what is wrong with 'racism'? Sounds good to me. Sounds like formula for world peace and mutual respect among peoples.

    “globo-homo imperialist”

    Nothing wrong with that!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  100. anon[136] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    Let’s be clear about what you hate.
    You hate debate. You hate argument. You hate reason.
    You therefore hate truth.
    If you hate truth, you hate human life. Truth saves human life.
    You hate people.
    You are gloating at the prospect of a race of people dying out. More proof that you hate people.
    Your liberal sanctimony is a mask to hide your hatred of human life.

  101. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:

    How about an open thread where readers can commiserate with each other about how they coped during the Great Unz Brownout?

    I was going through the seven stages:

    1. Has Antifa captured Ron, holding him tied up nude in a dingy cellar until he spills all the passwords?

    2. Has CloudFlare finally gotten around to reading the site and banned it, leaving it at the mercy of Anonymous DoSers?

    3. …

    Normally when a site goes down people mention it on Twitter. I only found one mention, plus an easy to miss tweet from Steve about his “blog,” with no “Unz” keyword in it to show up in a search.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    I got quite a lot done that day !

    (I did post elsewhere that Unz was DDOSed, and stuck a comment on the old iSteve blog).

    "when a site goes down people mention it on Twitter. I only found one mention"

    It could be that the conspiracy is even bigger than we thought ;-) or that many iSteve readers don't care to out themselves as crimethinkers.
  102. @Clifford Brown
    Classic Tucker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HjVipLZYns

    Am I the only one who thinks Boot looks like Col. Klink?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Grow a mustache, and Kristol would look like Sgt. Schultz!
  103. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    There is no such thing as “hate speech” It’s a culturally marxist term for leftists who hate free speech. No one is forcing anyone to listen to a putz like Andrew Anglin. So long as he’s not calling for specific violence he should have as much right to free speech as anyone.

    Erik Wemple, meanwhile-wow. He speaks and sounds as dumb as he reads. Who knew? (Anyone who had made a educated guess, I suppose.)

  104. @istevefan

    The upshot is that the Fox News host dresses his version of this ideology in belletristic flourishes
     
    Erik Wemple did educate me tonight. I'd never heard of the word belletristic. I doubt I'll ever see it again after tonight, but at least he did enlighten me.

    Wemple’s phrase “belletristic flourishes” was itself a belletristic flourish.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Wemple’s phrase “belletristic flourishes” was itself a belletristic flourish.
     
    Wemple would look good in a wimple. But he's too preachy to be a nun.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2850518071/f6718c9059f5d170aa72d306500f3c39_400x400.jpeg
  105. @22pp22
    I read the comments section. The thoughtless spite on display was "chilling". How typical are those people? If they make up a significant fraction of the population, you are one election away from trouble.

    They think they have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them and they will import enough Hondurans to allow them to finish the job. Labeling someone a Nazi is all it takes. The accusation doesn't even have to be true. They have no thought to the future; they just want to crush their ideological enemies now.

    I have just watched an old Granada TV documentary from the UK on the Spanish Civil War. The two sides stopped thinking of each other as human and half a million people ended up dead, half as battle casualties and half executed.

    I don't think the US is far from that.

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    Our best hope is that it splits apart.
    If it stays united it will be united under a Left-wing Fascist government.

  106. @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    If the WNs ever get their own nation they can design a “Wemple Test” to decide who is brain-warm enough to live in their community.

  107. @Lot
    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda, and like saying "I paid back the money I embezzled and gambled, with interest, so what's the harm!"

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%. In other words, taxpayer dollars were extended on non-commercial terms to evil, criminal companies like Goldman and more especially AIG, which was insolvent and owed Goldman billions.

    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda,

    You are moving the goalposts, but no matter. Crony capitalism is bad but you know what’s 100 times worse? A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it. In fact, it already started on the institutional level and it would be only a matter of days before it filtered down to the public.

    No American living today can even begin to imagine the full effect of such an event. Trust me, punishing banksters would not be worth it.

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%.

    That would be quite a trick, because if we are looking at the period when GS first received and then paid back the money, S&P 500 returned ~3%.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    What is so threatening about the idea of a run on the banks? If they are insolvent then their assets should be liquidated.
    , @MarkinLA
    A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it.


    Blah, blah, blah, "We were staring down the abyss". Nobody knows because that is what we have the FDIC for. Commercial banks did close and nothing happened after the FDIC stepped in. Yeah, the FDIC didn't have enough money but that is where the bailout money should have gone and ALL the shareholders should have lost everything (that includes AIG and the investment banks).
  108. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    “Presence of…absolutely disgusting.” So the mere existence of something disgusts you. You must have very refined sensibilities, like a hog’s nose for truffles. How Godlike you are in your pronouncements.

    “Hate speech is not Free speech.” What is “Free speech”? Does it not mean to speak freely? Is it a noun–a category, or a verb? I believe that you’ve turned speaking into a thing, a noun. And in doing so you’ve lost the true meaning. You’re guilty of an intellectual error here.

    And “Hate speech”? Is it a thing? Or a doing? Does one speak hatefully? Is the hate in the doing or in the content of what is said? If the latter then what does the hater hate? And why does he hate it?

    How is his expression of his hate any different from your expression of disgust?–which, as psychologists have informed us lies at the root of moral judgements of condemnation i.e. intolerance and hate.

    Ah, but you hate hate. And that makes it alright in your eyes. As HogGod, you’re not troubled by a foolish inconsistency. You know what you like by its smell; Enlightenment and the Right to speak freely be damned.

  109. @22pp22
    I read the comments section. The thoughtless spite on display was "chilling". How typical are those people? If they make up a significant fraction of the population, you are one election away from trouble.

    They think they have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them and they will import enough Hondurans to allow them to finish the job. Labeling someone a Nazi is all it takes. The accusation doesn't even have to be true. They have no thought to the future; they just want to crush their ideological enemies now.

    I have just watched an old Granada TV documentary from the UK on the Spanish Civil War. The two sides stopped thinking of each other as human and half a million people ended up dead, half as battle casualties and half executed.

    I don't think the US is far from that.

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    I would speculate that among serving combat soldiers and special/elite units, a certain intense nationalistic patriotism is prevalent?

    Perhaps sometimes even to the extent of occasionally slipping into bad taste..?

  110. Tucker Carlson is an influential, popular leader for the right, so naturally the left wants to silence and suppress him.

    In other contexts, they don’t seriously hold pundits responsible for fans. Here, the WaPo writer just wants a tool to deplatform Tucker Carlson with.

    Slate Star Codex wrote an excellent write up on this, centered around the left’s strategy of silencing influential right wing leaders:
    http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/05/23/can-things-be-both-popular-and-silenced/

  111. Research cited by BuzzFeed finds that Fox News host Tucker Carlson is the most favored commentator on Andrew Anglin’s vile, racist website, the Daily Stormer.

    Research carried out by Reg Cæsar found that Democrat Franklin D Roosevelt was the most favored president by Mississippi and her “vile, racist” senator, Theodore Bilbo.

    Let us know when he’s taken off the dime. And Liberty restored.

    • Replies: @Lot
    https://brianasaussy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/1928-mercury-dime-89-1394547524.jpg
  112. I have noticed that, of people still allowed to actually have their own television shows, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham are, by a longshot, the most articulate of any who stand up to defend anything that may actually be thought of as conservative. They sat exactly what I would say, and how I would say it, if I were smarter and more articulate than I am. If there were any real justice in this world one of them would be president and the other would be chief justice.

    Which means, of course, that they should watch their backs. The pitchfork mobs will be coming for them shortly. I hope they can float. Or can’t float. Like very small rocks. I can never remember which it’s supposed to be.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    Our opponents want to go back to the moron, war mongering, amnesty for illegals accepting, loudmouth Hannity and O'Reilly types as the voice of conservatives.
  113. @Dave Pinsen
    Wemple’s phrase “belletristic flourishes” was itself a belletristic flourish.

    Wemple’s phrase “belletristic flourishes” was itself a belletristic flourish.

    Wemple would look good in a wimple. But he’s too preachy to be a nun.

  114. @Anon
    This Wemple guy is a media critic? Given that the Media are mostly Jewish-Zionist dominated, globo-homo imperialist, pro-oligarchic, and quasi-pornographic, shouldn't Wemple direct his fire at the true controllers of the Media? Tucker Carlson, whatever his failings, is invaluable because he goes against the consensus of either Jewish supremacism or cuckery to Jewish globo-homo power.

    In other words, Carlson raises questions that challenges and upsets power-brokers of both the Conservatism Inc and Liberalism Inc. In contrast, Wemple is just a predictable dog, a sockpuppet who is incapable of thinking, writing, or saying ANYTHING that goes against current dogma and narrative of PC. Wemple might as well be a robot or a program. He writes to please his masters.
    He calls himself a 'progressive', but he is the darling of the richest, most powerful, and most hypocritical people in America. He does their bidding. He's a shill.

    If I have a criticism of Carlson, it is that he is unwilling to touch on the most important topic in America: Jewish Elite Power. Even he won't go there. I mean, isn't it strange that the ONE thing that both Democrats and Republicans are agreed on is Israel, Israel, Israel? And in hating whatever Jews hate? Jews hate Iran, Russia, Syria, and Palestinians; therefore, GOP and Democratic Party hate them too. Ironically, Trump was called a 'nazi' because he ran as a peace candidate. He called for easing tensions with Russia, ending war in Syria, and denouncing Neocon imperialism in Iraq. He also denounced the destruction of Libya by war criminals Obama and Hillary who, like Bush and Cheney, tried to appease Jewish supremacist power.
    Of course, Trump in office has been pressured by Deep State to continue the Hate Campaign against Russia(esp over Ukraine where the US aided Neo-Nazis to topple the government there). And Trump can't leave Syria because it wouldn't be good for Jews. Trump can't cut ties with Saudis because... it'd be bad for Israel. And Trump can't leave Afghanistan either. Deep State imperialists demand that US remain. And there is endless hate against Iran. Who is pushing all this hate? Jewish Power. Does Wemple have anything to say about that, the fact that the #1 source of globalist hatred if Jewish Power?
    Nationalists and Alt Rights, with a few exceptions, want no more imperialism. No more US military imperialism and financial imperialism to bully other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism to mass-invade the West, turning it into a bigger version of West Bank where endless Jewish migration-invasion is erasing Palestinian nationhood.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the great Nazi crimes had to do with breaking down borders, invading others, interfering in other nations, making wars, and spreading hatred. Well, what is globalism about? It's about US military and Wall Street breaking down national borders. Look what broken borders did to Libya and Syria. US and its allies exploited weakened borders to send tons of terrorist Jihadis into Libya and Syria to wreak havoc. Both nations look like Poland after Germans ravaged it in WWII. But Israel loved it because a modern secular Arab nation was torn apart by ISIS and Alqaeda zealots.
    Now, did Hitler want peace with Russia? No, he waged a Hate Campaign and Massive War on Russia, and that resulted in the biggest deaths and realized Shoah to its fullest extent. And yet, we are now told that Trump was a 'nazi' in 2016 for calling for more cordial relations with Russia. He sure is a strange kind of 'hitler' who wanted to de-escalate Middle East Wars and improve relations with Russia. But then, he couldn't drain the swamp that pulled him in. And so, we have more tensions in Middle East and more hatred against Russia. And Jews are happy.

    And I fail to see why any sane person is for mass immigration. Palestine was destroyed by mass immigration by Jews. Serbs lost their ancestral Kosovo because of mass immigration-invasion by Muslim Albanians under Turkic rule. Just as Turks allowed mass Muslim invasion into Balkans, Jewish elites call on non-whites to serve as their demographic mercenary force against whites. Mass migration of Anglos to the SW territories led to Mexico losing a huge chunk of land in the 19th century. Today, the process is reversed, and whites are losing out in the region to massive tides of browns. If a people can't stop mass-immigration, they will lose their land to another people. It's really that simple. Just ask the Palestinians. After all, Latin America is called such because Latins invaded and mass-immigrated there and pushed aside the native browns(who still live in poverty). It is the product of mass immigration-imperialism and invasion.

    And what is wrong with white nationalism? Nationalism is liberation and independence. To have nationalism, a people need emancipation and independence. Asian Indians couldn't have nationalism until they drove out British imperialists and gained independence. Algerians couldn't have their own Algerian Nationalism until they pushed out French colonialists.
    So, nationalism and national independence are the fruits of liberation and independence. Then, what is White Nationalism? It means white people seeking liberation and freedom from the tyranny of Jewish supremacism, globo-homo imperialims(that uses white soldiers as cannon fodder in Wars for Israel), black thuggery, and Diversity Mania. Why shouldn't white people be free? Why must they cuck before Jews and serve Jews and Israel but not white identity and interests? And if white identity is evil, why is Jewish identity good? If identity is wrong and even evil, why don't Jews give up their own identity and have open borders in Israel?
    When Jews attack white nationalism, it is really to suppress white identity to make whites serve Jewish identity and interests. It is not an attack on nationalism per se. Jews want whites to serve Jewish identity, and that means white identity must be shamed. That way, whites have no choice but serve another identity that is deemed holy, and of course, Jewish Identity is oh-so-perfect, and whites must fight more Wars for Israel and support Zionist tyranny over Palestinians and hate Russia because Russia said NO to globo-homo imperialism.

    If 'white nationalists' were imperialist and sought domination over OTHER peoples, that could be evil. But white nationalist message is 'leave other peoples and nations alone and respect their sovereignty; in turn, white nations and peoples must be left alone to have their own lands and culture.' Sounds good to me. After all, didn't the progressive community revile US involvement in Vietnam on grounds that US imperialists were messing with another land and people? Didn't they support Vietnamese nationalism and liberation? Progressives were also on the side of Cuban nationalism against US casino-gangster-CIA imperialism. Let Viets and Cubans be independent and forge their own destiny as people and culture?
    Well then, why shouldn't whites have this right? Why must they serve Jewish supremacists? Why must they hate whatever Jews hate. Why should whites in America hate Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc? Why should whites hate themselves as Jews insist that they do? Why should whites be pathetic cucks like Wemple, a mealy mouthed weasel who does the bidding of Jewish supremacists. I guarantee that this doggy hates whatever Jews hate. I'll bet he hates Russia, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and etc. I'll bet he's a good boy, so obedient and well-trained to bark. When Obama and Hillary the war criminals were wasting Libya and Syria, I'll bet Wemple had nothing to say. When Jews used their media power to turn Homomania into a neo-religion of Gay Rites, I'll bet Wemple was totally supportive. This guy is a shill, a dog, a puppet. No agency, no guts. He really hates Carlson out of envy. Carlson is a free man, relatively speaking. He has the spine and balls to ask questions that are not supposed to be asked. Of course, Carlson doesn't go far enough, but he does question 'conventional wisdom' like 'diversity is our strength'. I would go further and state that Diversity is Imperialism. It certainly is the product of imperialism. The Diversity that is celebrated so much in the New World is the result of imperialism, genocide, slave trade, and massive immigration-imperialism that pretty much decimated the native original populations of the Americas. This Diversity in South America led to importation of millions of black slaves and deaths of tens of millions of browns by disease and rape of tons of brown women. Carlson doesn't go that far, but he did raise the question. While it's true that the discovery of New World also led to rise of great civilizations and tremendous advances for mankind, the human cost was extremely high. And many native peoples and cultures were effectively wiped off the face of the earth. So, next time these progs yammer about Diversity, they should look into the history that brought it about.

    As for the Alt Right, Anglin is a nutter, and Daily Stormer is a clownfest. Its outlandish headlines speak for themselves. But most in the Alt Right are not like Anglin, a fact that Wemple overlooks. They are anti-imperialist and their nationalism is about mutual respect among nations. End of imperialism, which means no more American military and financial imperialism against other nations, and no more non-white demographic imperialism against the West that, if unchecked, will turn the West into the Third World. Large parts of London now look like Africa or Pakistan.

    Besides, since whites 'stole' the US from American Indians, it's their moral duty to end further immigration-invasion because American Indians have been invaded enough. It's bad enough that Indians lost their land to whites(and blacks). Why must they lose their ancestral land to peoples from all over the world. Since whites took Indian land, whites must make amends to Indians, and first and foremost priority is to stop further immigration-invasion. If whites should be doing anything, it is to restore more land to American Indians.

    Another good thing about the Alt Right is it is willing to discuss the JQ that is totally essential in a nation where Jews are the ruling elites. True criticism, true journalism, and true discourse must be free to speak truth to power, and the Top Power in the US is held by Jews, a fact that wussy Wemple will never address.

    Wemple is supposed to be a Media Critic, but he never touches on the fact that Jews control almost all the media and use the media to promote Jewish supremacism, Zionist imperialism, Hate Campaigns(against any nation or people hated by Jews), etc. He's not a Media CRITIC but a Media Shill. He's a dog who barks for his Zionist masters who hate white nationalism because white liberation and white independence means that whites no longer suppress their own identity and interests in order to serve Jewish identity and interests.
    Nationalism results from emancipation and independence. Whites of Alt Right don't want to rule over others. They want liberation from others. They don't want to cuck to Zionist supremacism. They don't want to be beaten up by stronger blacks and emasculated into wussy cuck-boys like Wemple who has zero sympathy for white victims of black violence in South Africa.
    Also, white nationalists don't want their lands in Europe and America to be taken over by non-white immigrant-invaders who run from their own nations & peoples and come to the West to leech off white achievement. It's the same between Africa and Europe. Blacks totally mess up their own nations and want to come to Europe to leech off whitey.

    In the past, white imperialism sought dominion over non-whites and non-white lands. Today, white nationalists simply want to preserve their own nations and leave other peoples alone. But that is denounced as 'racist'. Well, if that is 'racist', what is wrong with 'racism'? Sounds good to me. Sounds like formula for world peace and mutual respect among peoples.

    I wondered whatever happened to Priss Factor. She’s back!

  115. @Reg Cæsar

    Research cited by BuzzFeed finds that Fox News host Tucker Carlson is the most favored commentator on Andrew Anglin’s vile, racist website, the Daily Stormer.
     
    Research carried out by Reg Cæsar found that Democrat Franklin D Roosevelt was the most favored president by Mississippi and her "vile, racist" senator, Theodore Bilbo.

    Let us know when he's taken off the dime. And Liberty restored.

  116. California – you have totally made me happy! I love this song!

  117. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    He did even better when Wemple interviewed him (non-paywall link). I defy any naysayer to read it and then tell us Tucker isn’t a good debater. Scroll past the editorializing and selected excerpts to where Wemple posted the full transcript, because he thought it somehow made him look good. Make sure you’re somewhere where people won’t mind you LOL’ing multiple times.

  118. @AnotherDad
    It's some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property:

    A believes C
    B believes C
    -> A and B are the same!

    It’s some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property

    I used similar straw man reasoning in college to discredit my left-wing interlocutors, e.g. “I like highways, Hitler built Autobahns, so Hitler and I are the same.” So often I saw deer caught in the headlight looks, and this was supposed to be an Ivy League university.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    If you were white do you think you would have received the same reaction from your peers? Legitimately curious.
  119. @Colin Wright
    'Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.'


    You're wrong. 'Hate Speech' is just speech you don't like.

    Everyone is always for free speech they find congenial. Hitler would have had no problem with you proclaiming your faith in final victory. Stalin would have applauded your zeal for the five-year plan.

    It's speech you vehemently disagree with that's the problem. And that's free speech.

    ...or, as you would have it, 'hate speech.' Since you wish to censor it.

    ” Hitler would have had no problem with you proclaiming your faith in final victory. Stalin would have applauded your zeal for the five-year plan.”

    While under Hitler “proclaiming your faith in final victory” would keep you out of trouble in Stalin’s madhouse nothing could keep you safe . In the Socialist paradise “there is no why”.

  120. @Mr. Blank
    Tiny Duck, is that you?

    No Tiny Duck is a parodist making fun of progressive people like Krauthammer. To make sure readers get the message, TD uses a self deprecating moniker, and slips at least one malapropism or other bit of gibberish into each post in order to make Progs look like dimbulbs. It’s a form of trolling for humorous effect.

  121. @FKA Max
    He LOVES to eat cheese:

    Tucker Carlson Answers 22 Questions about Himself

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrHDo14MSGQ

    LOL… 8 cups of coffee a day, 100 sticks of nicorette, and no idea why he can’t sit through a movie?

  122. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Commutative property: a + b = b + a (order of elements doesn't matter)
    Associative property: (a+b)+c = a+(b+c) (order of operations doesn't matter)
    Distributive property: a*(b+c) = a*b + b*c (relationship between multiplication and addition)
    Transitive property: if a=b and b=c then a=c

    The law Steve has identified is of the form "If A has property P, and B has properties P and R, then A has property R", where P = noticing a certain phenomenon, R = being a racist. I don't know of a mathematical law of this form. Maybe the name of this law can be found in a list of logical fallacies.

    I’ve always called it the reverse bandwagon fallacy. Scare normies away from listening to the arguments of a person by suggesting that person is liked by losers.

    It’s one of the oldest tricks in the media. They’ll bring out David Duke and use it every time there’s a political outsider making hay.

  123. @Anon
    I agree that the epithet "Yid" is weird. I'd never heard of it before. I bet the usual suspect black punk antisemites in New York have never heard of it. I bet that garden variety white Nazis have never heard of it. Who would such a slur point to? Is it regional? Is it something only a septuagenarian would know?

    Whatever, I really hope this one is solved. There's got to be video footage somewhere on the route to and from the office. I want to know who did it.

    Its’ not an obscure epithet; at least it didn’t used to be. A lot of neo-nazis would probably know it. If anything, use of that term makes it more likely to be a white guy, I would think.

  124. @22pp22
    I read the comments section. The thoughtless spite on display was "chilling". How typical are those people? If they make up a significant fraction of the population, you are one election away from trouble.

    They think they have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them and they will import enough Hondurans to allow them to finish the job. Labeling someone a Nazi is all it takes. The accusation doesn't even have to be true. They have no thought to the future; they just want to crush their ideological enemies now.

    I have just watched an old Granada TV documentary from the UK on the Spanish Civil War. The two sides stopped thinking of each other as human and half a million people ended up dead, half as battle casualties and half executed.

    I don't think the US is far from that.

    Is the US army united or could it split apart?

    ‘Is the US army united or could it split apart?’

    Doesn’t matter. I believe virtually all the elite combat troops are white.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    There are some Hispanic and Asian “operators.” And American Indians punch way above their demographics. The “lack of diversity” in the SOC always refers to lack of blacks. It’s hard to find blacks who 1) have high enough IQ, 2) don’t mind wallowing in cold water, and 3) likes to jump out of airplanes.
  125. @anonymous
    its pretty simple: only boomers watch hannity and the DS doesnt cater to boomers.

    ann coulter ("queen ann") is the only boomercon who gets respect on the alt-right.


    btw, its always sad seeing people criticize "anglin man bad" when they haven't read the site. anglin is hugely talented and hilarious.

    Ann Coulter was born 12-8-61. A good 16 years after the end of World War 2. Baby-boomers came of age in the 60’s. Just because she’s now middle aged doesn’t make her a baby-boomer. She turned 18 just before Christmas of 1979. She wasn’t even an adult when the Iran hostage crisis started.

    • Replies: @Realist
    The baby boom generation is generally considered between 1946 to 1964. The youngest baby boomer is 54 years old.
    , @Forbes
    Only the very earliest born/oldest of boomers came of age in the late '60s. Boomers came of age in the '70s.

    Most of the '60s coming of age nonsense, e.g. the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) and the Port Huron Statement (1962), SNCC (Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee), Yippies (Youth International Party), and protests at the '68 Chicago Democratic Convention were led by those who became known as the Chicago 7, i.e. Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden, et al., nearly all of whom were born in the late 1930s, except David Dellinger who was born in 1915!

    Those revolutionaries advocating for youth and proclaiming "Never trust anyone over 30" were essentially self-identifying as untrustworthy.

    Even the Bill Ayers-led Weathermen/Weather Underground was started as a faction of, and emerged from the discord of the SDS following the '68 Chicago convention. Ayers (b. 1944) was no boomer, either.
  126. @Lagertha
    Tucker irritates some people just like Tom Brady irritates football-heads.

    Tom...Totally, OT: but, Tom of Finland was very right wing! Most people think he was a leftie homo, but he came from money (never forgot that), and was a Finnish patriot who respected the war effort to keep Finland free. He understood he was different but did not blame people. https://youtu.be/Fqh-hcQdRhE

    Tom of Finland is never OT here.

  127. @Colin Wright
    'Is the US army united or could it split apart?'

    Doesn't matter. I believe virtually all the elite combat troops are white.

    There are some Hispanic and Asian “operators.” And American Indians punch way above their demographics. The “lack of diversity” in the SOC always refers to lack of blacks. It’s hard to find blacks who 1) have high enough IQ, 2) don’t mind wallowing in cold water, and 3) likes to jump out of airplanes.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yeah, right. I've watched dozens of films and TV episodes, all based on true stories about the Special Forces, and blacks are 1/3 to 1/2 of them.
  128. @Mr. Blank
    Wow. I'm rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I'm surprised it didn't get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing. I know kids in elementary school who could shred this kind of argument like a Cuisinart.

    Seriously, this reads like the sort of thing a liberal would dream up as a parody of Glenn Beck:

    "Bernie Sanders wants universal health care! You know who else wanted universal health care? STALIN. Coincidence? I'd say it looks mighty SUSPICIOUS..."

    I’m rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I’m surprised it didn’t get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing.

    The Post has been publishing opinion articles as sloppy and low quality as this one for several years now.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Exactly right. This is par for the course in the MSM nowadays.
  129. @Twinkie
    There are some Hispanic and Asian “operators.” And American Indians punch way above their demographics. The “lack of diversity” in the SOC always refers to lack of blacks. It’s hard to find blacks who 1) have high enough IQ, 2) don’t mind wallowing in cold water, and 3) likes to jump out of airplanes.

    Yeah, right. I’ve watched dozens of films and TV episodes, all based on true stories about the Special Forces, and blacks are 1/3 to 1/2 of them.

  130. @Svigor
    If you read "white women" as Whiskey-code for "Jews," some of his comments actually make sense.

    Huh, you might be right.

  131. @Tiny Duck
    Carlson said a fool and evil

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/tucker-carlsons-take-on-diversity-betrays-americas-motto/2018/09/11/65132380-b5f3-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.b3c44675f2a9

    Diversity is our strength

    Oh and Cohen flipped. This is it. Evidence of collusion with Russia. Trump
    Is finished

    How did Carlson betray “In God We Trust”?

  132. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Am I the only one who thinks Boot looks like Col. Klink?

    Grow a mustache, and Kristol would look like Sgt. Schultz!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Say what you want about Sgt. Schultz and his "I see nothing!" refrain, he kept his job. He's a model for today's MSM, progressive politicians, and academics.
  133. The only way the Left could oust Tucker Carlson would be if they could produce several alleged victims from the past who are deemed credible by reason of having large spectacles and a voice like a baby. But if the left had such accusers, surely these would have been produced by now. Therefore, the only way we would lose Tucker would be if he and his family decide that the evolving personal toll is not worth it, because the unraveling of this culture and this nation is now inevitable; immune to being impeded by any conservative spokesman. This would be a completely reasonable decision in my view — although I would greatly miss him —- never anyone better.

  134. @Buzz Mohawk
    He probably drinks milk too.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D6Vv5aukQQ4/VhFmDbFcjJI/AAAAAAABi5I/hxToOtVDdP8/s1600/german%2Barmy%2Bsoldiers%2Bgetting%2Bmilk.jpg

    That’s evidently a Nazi Cow, collaborating like that. Deplatform her now!

  135. @Anon
    I agree that the epithet "Yid" is weird. I'd never heard of it before. I bet the usual suspect black punk antisemites in New York have never heard of it. I bet that garden variety white Nazis have never heard of it. Who would such a slur point to? Is it regional? Is it something only a septuagenarian would know?

    Whatever, I really hope this one is solved. There's got to be video footage somewhere on the route to and from the office. I want to know who did it.

    Yiddish literally means Jewish. In a way it’s not a epithet. It’s entirely accurate.

    History and Etymology for Yiddish

    Yiddish yidish, short for yidish daytsh, literally, Jewish German, from Middle High German jüdisch diutsch, from jüdisch Jewish (from Jude Jew) + diutsch German

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Yiddish

  136. @Lagertha
    Tucker irritates some people just like Tom Brady irritates football-heads.

    Tom...Totally, OT: but, Tom of Finland was very right wing! Most people think he was a leftie homo, but he came from money (never forgot that), and was a Finnish patriot who respected the war effort to keep Finland free. He understood he was different but did not blame people. https://youtu.be/Fqh-hcQdRhE

    Was there a Tom of Finland junior to carry on the flame?

  137. Tucker’s program and his choice of topics leave a bit to be desired. He never breaches the Fox rule (as well as other media) to never besmirch the Israeli actions, or comments on White genocide, which is so popular currently.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Realist:

    You've just given two reasons why Tucker has not yet been removed from the airwaves!
    , @Anonymous

    to never besmirch the Israeli actions
     
    Maybe Tucker just legitimately supports Israel?

    Because the anti-Israel movement is entirely a creation of first commies, then Islamists, and now SJW leftists?

    I know, I know, too Occam's razor-y.

  138. @duncsbaby
    Ann Coulter was born 12-8-61. A good 16 years after the end of World War 2. Baby-boomers came of age in the 60's. Just because she's now middle aged doesn't make her a baby-boomer. She turned 18 just before Christmas of 1979. She wasn't even an adult when the Iran hostage crisis started.

    The baby boom generation is generally considered between 1946 to 1964. The youngest baby boomer is 54 years old.

  139. @anon
    This is also the fallacy of arguing guilt by association.
    It's a good exercise to name the many fallacies commited every day by progressive media and celebrities. Mostly their arguments are just straighforward slander.
    Socrates argued that reason is the only virtue. Committing fallacies isn't just a technical error in logic. Fallacies are sins. They indicate bad intentions. Every fallacy is an attack on truth, which is an attack on human life.
    People who commit fallacies cause war and crime and murder. People who commit fallacies do not care about human life. People who recklessly and knowingly commit fallacies are evil.
    We should say this every time the Left commits fallacies.

    No one on the left is ever damaged by an accusation of guilt by association. For example, avowed Communists are represented in most left-wing demonstrations and marches, waving the banner of the hammer and sickle under which tens of millions died, but in the eyes of the media that doesn’t delegitimize the entire movement, as it decided the Nazi-LARPers did in Charlottesville.

    Hillary’s campaign was hurt by her association with Black Lives Matter, but that was an association she embraced, not one that was inferred by others.

    • Agree: SMK, Twinkie
  140. @Redneck farmer
    Grow a mustache, and Kristol would look like Sgt. Schultz!

    Say what you want about Sgt. Schultz and his “I see nothing!” refrain, he kept his job. He’s a model for today’s MSM, progressive politicians, and academics.

  141. @Anonym
    Are you sure it's not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Associativity is a property of functions, while transitivity is a property of relations.

    Associative: x + (y + z) = (x + y) + z

    Transitive: x < y and y < z implies x < z

  142. “Research cited by BuzzFeed finds….”

    Could there be a better way to announce to the world that you have a low IQ?

  143. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    “Anyway, It’s Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks”

    Cool clock, Mike! Want to bring it to the White House?

  144. @inertial

    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda,
     
    You are moving the goalposts, but no matter. Crony capitalism is bad but you know what's 100 times worse? A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it. In fact, it already started on the institutional level and it would be only a matter of days before it filtered down to the public.

    No American living today can even begin to imagine the full effect of such an event. Trust me, punishing banksters would not be worth it.

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%.
     
    That would be quite a trick, because if we are looking at the period when GS first received and then paid back the money, S&P 500 returned ~3%.

    What is so threatening about the idea of a run on the banks? If they are insolvent then their assets should be liquidated.

  145. @Twinkie

    It’s some sort of mangled and deluded transitive property
     
    I used similar straw man reasoning in college to discredit my left-wing interlocutors, e.g. “I like highways, Hitler built Autobahns, so Hitler and I are the same.” So often I saw deer caught in the headlight looks, and this was supposed to be an Ivy League university.

    If you were white do you think you would have received the same reaction from your peers? Legitimately curious.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    If you were white do you think you would have received the same reaction from your peers?
     
    I was often called a Nazi in college, so what do you think? If I were white, I think I’d have been liked a bit more. Being a traditionalist, religious conservative AND not white can be pretty lonely on a college campus. Why do you think I hung out at Campus Crusade for Christ a lot? Thankfully I had a very nice, supportive girlfriend... whom I married shortly after college (she was hassled a lot for dating me).

    Overall my undergraduate years were pretty unpleasant. I was older than other students, had just come from military service in Asia, didn’t take kindly to spoiled bullshit from my would-be peers, worked (I moved office furniture), was an athlete (Judo, which meant no funding or support), and was too knowledgeable for my own good, to be cocky about it. The leftists couldn’t out-argue me, so they engaged in a lot of ad hominem and also tried to get me in trouble with the administration. It felt like there was a faction on campus that was dedicated to driving me out of the university.

    Of course, I wasn’t (and it’s impossible to be) aware of the interior lives of other students, but most of my white male peers seemed to be coasting through it all well, drinking, partying, and fornicating. I mostly stuck to a few friends who were serious about their studies, athletics, and God (a couple of them were actually interns for intel agencies, so they had to be clean) or were otherwise grad students.
  146. @Realist
    Tucker's program and his choice of topics leave a bit to be desired. He never breaches the Fox rule (as well as other media) to never besmirch the Israeli actions, or comments on White genocide, which is so popular currently.

    Realist:

    You’ve just given two reasons why Tucker has not yet been removed from the airwaves!

  147. The Insane Left will one day ban the mathematical concept of commutivity because they will see it as concept of FASCIST UNITY……..then onto the banning of abelian groups…..cyclic groups….cyclic groups are abelian….and that’s commutivity=FASCIST UNITY!!!!…..and no doubt Teichmuller Geometry gets banned …that’s SS Nazi shit for sure……

  148. • Replies: @Trevor H.
    I'm more a language person than a numbers person, so I'm more troubled by the redundant phrase "property law" in this context. Choose one or the other, please!
  149. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    I recall Tim Wise in the late 80s proclaiming the Soviet Union did not have ICBMs targeted on the US, in the Tulane University newspaper. Wouldn’t cite Wise as an authority but merely as another agitprop mechanic on any issue of the day.

  150. @Brandon Lee
    Hi Steve: I think that you might find this article interesting. Maybe, you could write a blog post about it? Thanks...

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2018/11/evangelicals-vote-nones-falter/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=share_bar

    In the 2018 election, America’s shrinking segment of white evangelicals mobilized strongly for the Republican Party – but the rising cohort of nonreligious Americans failed to exert their full political power.

    As secularism grows relentlessly, white evangelicals have declined to a mere 15 percent of the U.S. population (down from 20 percent in 2012). But they’re so ardent for conservative causes that they constituted 26 percent among the 113 million voters who cast ballots on Nov. 6. And they gave three-fourths of their votes to GOP candidates, according to exit polls.

    In contrast, Americans who say their religion is “none” have climbed to one-fourth of the population, but they were only 17 percent of voters this year. Skeptic-agnostic-disinterested folks apparently shun politics along with church worship.

    I think it’s a shame that “nones” mostly shrug while white evangelicals throw themselves into elections. Nonreligious Americans tend to hold liberal, compassionate, progressive views, and if their full potential could be realized, the nation’s values would improve.

    Prodding “nones” to become politically active – to show them the importance of democracy involvement – should be a top goal of the secular movement.

    On the other side, prodding is fierce among white evangelicals. A New York Times report titled “God’s Red Army” outlined a massive fundamentalist blitz designed to generate born-again votes for Republicans on Election Day.

    For example, Ralph Reed’s Faith & Freedom Coalition budgeted $18 million “to micro-target around 125 million social conservative voters across 19 different states through door-to-door interactions, digital ads, phone calls and mailers,” The Christian Post reported. A total of 28 million digital ads were e-mailed to smartphones and laptops on the weekend before balloting.

    Having “nones” visit more afflictions on the rest of us isn’t a thrilling prospect. What ever happened to MYOB? Of course, that’s not State-serving.

  151. @Realist
    Tucker's program and his choice of topics leave a bit to be desired. He never breaches the Fox rule (as well as other media) to never besmirch the Israeli actions, or comments on White genocide, which is so popular currently.

    to never besmirch the Israeli actions

    Maybe Tucker just legitimately supports Israel?

    Because the anti-Israel movement is entirely a creation of first commies, then Islamists, and now SJW leftists?

    I know, I know, too Occam’s razor-y.

  152. @Anon
    I agree that the epithet "Yid" is weird. I'd never heard of it before. I bet the usual suspect black punk antisemites in New York have never heard of it. I bet that garden variety white Nazis have never heard of it. Who would such a slur point to? Is it regional? Is it something only a septuagenarian would know?

    Whatever, I really hope this one is solved. There's got to be video footage somewhere on the route to and from the office. I want to know who did it.

    This was a big hit in the 30s, and as late as the 60s Tom Jones was singing it – he probably learned it from HIS “mam”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Yiddishe_Momme

  153. @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    Yeah, if I had to pick a particular deductive fallacy to cover this case, I’d go with affirming the consequent. Undistributed middle is so Aristotlean.

    Two step argument:

    Step 1:

    If someone is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn’t think diversity is our strength.

    Ergo,

    If Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn’t think diversity is our strength. (Universal Instantiation)

    Step 2

    If Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper, then he opposes immigration and doesn’t think diversity is our strength. (from Step 1)

    Tucker opposes immigration and doesn’t think diversity is our strength.

    Ergo (hold onto your hats, here comes the fallacy!),

    Tucker is a Daily Storm trooper.

    This is the modern treatment.

    Frege Lives! (And Coppe!)

    I, on the other hand, don’t much like calling out arguments like Wimple’s as representing a particular fallacy, especially not deductive fallacies (how often do we think purely deductively, anyway?). I like calling them really, really Stupid, and convincing only to Stupid people.

  154. @Lot
    The name of the fallacy in Wimple's article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle (All WNs want to restrict mass migration, Tucker wants to restrict mass migration, so Tucker is a WN).

    You want to sarcastically attach the name of a valid logical form to the argument, but there isn't one that will fit precisely.

    The name of the fallacy in Wimple’s article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle …

    Thanks Lot. I looked it up, then did a review of this concept of “distribution” (which i’d figured out from the example).

    I’ve often thought that students should get a course in logic. I think any college student should have a solid grounding in history, geography. But i do think we skew education too much to particulars–now with this destructive anti-education “victimology” nonsense–and don’t drill down on basic competence in reasoning abilities.

    We have these political and journalistic “elites” who are on the whole
    — mediocre with data (analysis, charts, graphs)
    — poor in statistical and probablistic reasoning
    — innumerate
    — lack basic logical reasoning.

    One listens to the typical mainstream media in America and thinks “in a country of over 300 million this is the best we’ve got?”

    • Replies: @Lot
    Yes, logic and stats should take the prized place of trig and calc in high school and most college majors.

    Humanities and social science are a long lost cause and should be defunded.

  155. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    You’re citing Tim Wise as an authority?

    What’s interesting is that there actually is a Michael O. Krauthammer who is a peripheral faculty member at Yale.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/bbs/molmed/people/michael_krauthammer.profile

    Someone needs to contact him and tell him that some person is making silly crank posts using his handle.

    • Replies: @Trutherator
    And the Stalinist Socialist Workers Party endorsed Obama in 2008. Probably Hillary in 2016 too.

    Gus Hall thanked Richard Nixon for executing the Communist Party platform. That's the party that endorsed the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.
  156. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Carlson noticed a fact that was also noticed by a bad person, so the Commutative Property Law of Crimethink proves that Carlson is a bad person."

    Of all of the left's dishonest premises, this one is especially disingenuous. The people who engage in it do not deserve a civilized rebuke.

    “Alleged crimes…caused by immigration.” That immigrants, legal and illegal, have committed millions and millions of crimes, or any crimes apparently, is a “racist” myth! “Alleged injustices against white farmers in South Africa.” No white farmers and their wives and children have been murdered by blacks after being raped and gang-raped, vaginally and anally, tortured, mutilated, skinned alive, boiled in oil, ad nauseum. And then cannibalized? Such atrocities and horrors are purely chimerical.

    What an odious creature. Is he a liar or is he psychotic, totally delusional, completely estranged from objective reality, impervious to facts and logic. “Straight white males” are the most execrable, insane, guilt-ridden, masochistic, self-loathing, and suicidal of all left-liberals. How much power and influence would leftists and leftism have if not for “straight white male” left-liberals”?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    I have found this to be true, in my many travels. SWMs are the most vicious haters of white males on Earth, followed closely by SJW females. Often striving mightily to please their (masters) real or imaginary.

    But the SJW females generally do it for effect, and quickly look around to see 'how it went over' and how much cred they've gained. SWMs do it out of pure hatred--they simply love to see their own kind suffer. Assuages their egos somehow.

    POCs--for their many failings--almost fail to register, mainly performing however they think they should.

    Thus it's clear why we're in such a nightmare scenario. The decades of MSM training have brought forth the intended results.

  157. @Mr. Blank
    Wow. I'm rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I'm surprised it didn't get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing. I know kids in elementary school who could shred this kind of argument like a Cuisinart.

    Seriously, this reads like the sort of thing a liberal would dream up as a parody of Glenn Beck:

    "Bernie Sanders wants universal health care! You know who else wanted universal health care? STALIN. Coincidence? I'd say it looks mighty SUSPICIOUS..."

    As I keep saying, the WaPo/NYT/prog-lefties lack the self-awareness gene. And apparently logic and reasoning are above their pay grade. Validating their feelz is about all they’re capable.

  158. @Anon
    How about an open thread where readers can commiserate with each other about how they coped during the Great Unz Brownout?

    I was going through the seven stages:

    1. Has Antifa captured Ron, holding him tied up nude in a dingy cellar until he spills all the passwords?

    2. Has CloudFlare finally gotten around to reading the site and banned it, leaving it at the mercy of Anonymous DoSers?

    3. ...

    Normally when a site goes down people mention it on Twitter. I only found one mention, plus an easy to miss tweet from Steve about his "blog," with no "Unz" keyword in it to show up in a search.

    I got quite a lot done that day !

    (I did post elsewhere that Unz was DDOSed, and stuck a comment on the old iSteve blog).

    “when a site goes down people mention it on Twitter. I only found one mention”

    It could be that the conspiracy is even bigger than we thought 😉 or that many iSteve readers don’t care to out themselves as crimethinkers.

  159. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    Hate speech is free speech. Free speech includes the right to speak ill of others or even to display an disnliking of others.
    Get over yourself.
    It is covered by the First Amendment.
    You sound as if your comment came directly out of a college campus where freedom of speech is now considered rayciss.
    The First Amendment guarantees my right to agree or disagree with with the government, the right to voice my displeasure at whatever I find troublesome. Including other people.
    It guarantees my right to either voice my approval of certain groups or people and disapproval of others ie: my admiration and support for the Syrian people along with my deepest loathing for Pisrael,
    or Black Lives Matter or ANTIFA.
    Talk about hate groups, such entities as the ADL, SPLC and B’Nai B’rith exhibit some of the worst forms of intolerance and hate imaginable. Yes, the First Amendment protects hate speech.
    Get over yourself.

  160. Research cited by BuzzFeed finds that Fox News host Tucker Carlson is the most favored commentator on Andrew Anglin’s vile, racist website, the Daily Stormer.

    This is a tortured construction designed to imply that Carlson actually comments at that site.

    • Agree: snorlax
  161. @duncsbaby
    Ann Coulter was born 12-8-61. A good 16 years after the end of World War 2. Baby-boomers came of age in the 60's. Just because she's now middle aged doesn't make her a baby-boomer. She turned 18 just before Christmas of 1979. She wasn't even an adult when the Iran hostage crisis started.

    Only the very earliest born/oldest of boomers came of age in the late ’60s. Boomers came of age in the ’70s.

    Most of the ’60s coming of age nonsense, e.g. the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) and the Port Huron Statement (1962), SNCC (Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee), Yippies (Youth International Party), and protests at the ’68 Chicago Democratic Convention were led by those who became known as the Chicago 7, i.e. Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden, et al., nearly all of whom were born in the late 1930s, except David Dellinger who was born in 1915!

    Those revolutionaries advocating for youth and proclaiming “Never trust anyone over 30” were essentially self-identifying as untrustworthy.

    Even the Bill Ayers-led Weathermen/Weather Underground was started as a faction of, and emerged from the discord of the SDS following the ’68 Chicago convention. Ayers (b. 1944) was no boomer, either.

  162. That’s not who we are–
    Belletristic fluorishes–
    As Americans

  163. @Mike Krauthammer
    Presence of Websites like Dailystormer is absolutely disgusting.
    Hate Speech is not Free speech.

    Mr. Tim Wise was right when he pointed out that WhiteConservatives are a "Dying Breed".
    Anyway, It's Tick Tock, Tick Tock for you folks.

    Why would you quote a known racist like Time Wise?

  164. @Lagertha
    We are all (well, almost all :) ) back in High School/Gymnasium/Baccalaureate school....ALL THE TIME!* We still react - doesn't matter what country you live in; you just want revenge.

    *sheesh, I came across, of at least, 20 articles, of "how to not fight at the dinner table during the Holidays," these last 2 weeks.

    Yes, that is true.

    Tucker plastering the poor guy’s face on the coffee mug to mock him was not too nice either.

    Wemple had to go for the balls and for the liberals that means calling someone either a racist or an anti-Semite.

  165. @inertial
    Actually, the government made a ton of money on that bailout. $96.5 Billion at the latest count, and this includes ~$12.5 Billion loss on GM and Chrysler.

    Goldman Sachs, to pick a random example, got a $10 Billion bailout and 7 months later paid back $11.4 Billion. That's a pretty nice effective interest rate.

    How much of that money that the banks paid back came from the Fed buying their worthless mortgages at par?

  166. @Cato

    Everyone knew, including the bankers, that loans were being made that could not be repaid
     
    Everyone thought the subprime game was pretty safe. First, bundling a whole bunch of mortgages into a security means DIVERSIFICATION, and everyone knows that reduces risk. Second, credit default swaps were a way of getting INSURANCE on those securities, and everyone knows that almost eliminates risk. Third, the FED is controlled by Wall Street, and everyone knows that guarantees profits.

    And they were right. About the third point, if not the first two.

    Sure on paper, if you do the correct due-diligence on the borrower to make sure the default rate stays within the acceptable range. When you make no doc, stated income loans everything falls apart.

  167. @Mr. Anon

    This isn't the first time her office has been vandalized with anti-Semitic blasphemy.
     
    Blasphemy! Wow! Apparently, they are no longer merely God's Chosen People, but Gods themselves.

    Wouldn't real Nazis use black spray paint for a swastika? The swastika in the flag was black.

    I also note that the vandalism was inside her office. Isn't it normally locked?

    No self-respecting Aryan would post a swastika that wasn’t rotated 45 degrees like most Nazi flags and emblems were. Flat sided swastikas were relatively rare.

  168. @inertial

    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda,
     
    You are moving the goalposts, but no matter. Crony capitalism is bad but you know what's 100 times worse? A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it. In fact, it already started on the institutional level and it would be only a matter of days before it filtered down to the public.

    No American living today can even begin to imagine the full effect of such an event. Trust me, punishing banksters would not be worth it.

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%.
     
    That would be quite a trick, because if we are looking at the period when GS first received and then paid back the money, S&P 500 returned ~3%.

    A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it.

    Blah, blah, blah, “We were staring down the abyss”. Nobody knows because that is what we have the FDIC for. Commercial banks did close and nothing happened after the FDIC stepped in. Yeah, the FDIC didn’t have enough money but that is where the bailout money should have gone and ALL the shareholders should have lost everything (that includes AIG and the investment banks).

    • Replies: @inertial
    You are not thinking this through. So private accounts are going to be protected. That's nice. What about corporate accounts? Your employer has a payroll account that suddenly goes poof. How would you like not getting paid? Ok, let the government protect payroll accounts (which alone would likely be multiple times the cost of TARP.) What about accounts used to pay vendors? All of a sudden, tens of thousands of companies have their revenue go to zero. A wave of bankruptcies follow, which triggers a chain reaction that in turn causes more bankruptcies, and so on.

    Modern Americans piss and moan when the annual GDP growth goes from +4% to +1%. They have not a faintest idea what it's like when GDP falls -10%, or -25%, or -50%.
  169. Wemple is one of the more interesting WaPo bloggers, in that he has attacked his employer and his colleagues on occasion. He has a pretty good network of sources. But he should definitely stay off of television.

  170. @Lagertha
    We are all (well, almost all :) ) back in High School/Gymnasium/Baccalaureate school....ALL THE TIME!* We still react - doesn't matter what country you live in; you just want revenge.

    *sheesh, I came across, of at least, 20 articles, of "how to not fight at the dinner table during the Holidays," these last 2 weeks.

    We are all (well, almost all 🙂 ) back in High School

    Yes, I can indeed sense your desperation. 🙂

  171. @Lagertha
    the thing is: women love Tucker..he is the perfect guy. He has 4 well-adjusted children; lovely wife who is the mother of his children (no 2nds or Trophy wives) - youngest is almost 17. He also, is very pleasant. He is like many wealthy Wasps & Wascs I knew in the 70's & 80's: great manners, polite; can speak to my great aunt Kristina...or the mechanic who repaired his daughter's car. Yes, he is privileged, but so are so many today - everyone in the public sphere, in the light.

    But, women (j'adore Tucker) like Tucker because he reminds them of daddy, or the daddy they wanted (he has 3 daughters).

    Tucker also, has a great relationship with his father. And, this fact alone, makes people envious. I can tell y'all, many people I have known for a long time, were always envious/curious of my close relationship with my parents (who were intense and often difficult!). But, the love is something you can not explain to people. The love that hurts because they are no longer here.

    So, Tucker is today's news guy who is as hated as my lovely, football Tom because he is Woke! He sees thru the bullshit of the Republicans and Democrats....the last 30 years of deception and subterfuge.

    women love Tucker..he is the perfect guy.

    You should speak for yourself. He’s fine as far as a tv personality goes, but he has a strong pencil-neck vibe to him. Some women prefer men who are manly.

  172. I almost never read MSM now. This post led me to read Wemple’s blog and then two other opinion pieces (?) at WaPo. Really crazy. A little shocking. No common ground.

  173. @PiltdownMan

    I’m rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I’m surprised it didn’t get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing.
     
    The Post has been publishing opinion articles as sloppy and low quality as this one for several years now.

    Exactly right. This is par for the course in the MSM nowadays.

  174. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1068322878179799041

    I’m more a language person than a numbers person, so I’m more troubled by the redundant phrase “property law” in this context. Choose one or the other, please!

  175. @Mr. Blank
    Wow. I'm rarely shocked by stuff in the media, since I work in that field, but I am really surprised that the Post published this. I'm surprised it didn't get flagged by an editor. For a paper like the Post to run this kind of playground taunting is incredibly embarrassing. I know kids in elementary school who could shred this kind of argument like a Cuisinart.

    Seriously, this reads like the sort of thing a liberal would dream up as a parody of Glenn Beck:

    "Bernie Sanders wants universal health care! You know who else wanted universal health care? STALIN. Coincidence? I'd say it looks mighty SUSPICIOUS..."

    Channelling Dana Carvey’s Church Lady.

  176. So, there you go: Carlson noticed a fact that was also noticed by a Bad Person, so the Transitive Property Law of Crimethink proves that Carlson is a Bad Person too.
    (Do I have the name of the Property right?)

    Yes. If A = B and B = C then A = C, this is the Transitive Property. You got that right.

    BUT, what you did not do is point out that understanding the Transitive Property is Logical and Logic is White Privilege, therefore you badthink person you, understanding the logic of the Transitive Property is badthink.

  177. @Lot
    The government made money on the Goldman bailout is pure crony captalist propaganda, and like saying "I paid back the money I embezzled and gambled, with interest, so what's the harm!"

    During the time period the US Gov might have made 10 or 20% on its bailout funds, any idiot throwing darts at a list of S&P 500 companies would have made 50-200%. In other words, taxpayer dollars were extended on non-commercial terms to evil, criminal companies like Goldman and more especially AIG, which was insolvent and owed Goldman billions.

    Thanks for mentioning AIG. People forget.

  178. @Brandon Lee
    Hi Steve: I think that you might find this article interesting. Maybe, you could write a blog post about it? Thanks...

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2018/11/evangelicals-vote-nones-falter/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=share_bar

    In the 2018 election, America’s shrinking segment of white evangelicals mobilized strongly for the Republican Party – but the rising cohort of nonreligious Americans failed to exert their full political power.

    As secularism grows relentlessly, white evangelicals have declined to a mere 15 percent of the U.S. population (down from 20 percent in 2012). But they’re so ardent for conservative causes that they constituted 26 percent among the 113 million voters who cast ballots on Nov. 6. And they gave three-fourths of their votes to GOP candidates, according to exit polls.

    In contrast, Americans who say their religion is “none” have climbed to one-fourth of the population, but they were only 17 percent of voters this year. Skeptic-agnostic-disinterested folks apparently shun politics along with church worship.

    I think it’s a shame that “nones” mostly shrug while white evangelicals throw themselves into elections. Nonreligious Americans tend to hold liberal, compassionate, progressive views, and if their full potential could be realized, the nation’s values would improve.

    Prodding “nones” to become politically active – to show them the importance of democracy involvement – should be a top goal of the secular movement.

    On the other side, prodding is fierce among white evangelicals. A New York Times report titled “God’s Red Army” outlined a massive fundamentalist blitz designed to generate born-again votes for Republicans on Election Day.

    For example, Ralph Reed’s Faith & Freedom Coalition budgeted $18 million “to micro-target around 125 million social conservative voters across 19 different states through door-to-door interactions, digital ads, phone calls and mailers,” The Christian Post reported. A total of 28 million digital ads were e-mailed to smartphones and laptops on the weekend before balloting.

    That they are called “nones” is pretty telling.

    Do we call all people who are devoid of delusional thinking “nones”? Nope. Just in this category.

  179. @Jack Highlands
    Wemple's performance had many shortcomings alright, but a major one was that he was too fair, pondering Carlson's jabs in a slow, yet good-faith way: he definitely strikes me as a 'one S.D.' pundit. Had he done his homework, he'd have seen that Carlson tolerates any amount of opposition nonsense as long as it's two loudmouths talking over one another. All Carlson's regular leftist guests learned this long ago.

    And Wemple got one good hook in: Carlson's high voice when things get heated is irritating.

    But don't get me wrong - when it comes to the MSM, Tucker Carlson is far and away the best thing we have. And his self-control on not descending totally into the weeds on public media after his home, wife and daughter were attacked on two separate occasions suggests he probably has a great deal of fortitude and personal courage.

    Tucker isn’t taking the threat of physical violence seriously. He should consider that when and if the “unthinkable” happens, the MSM and all correct-thinking people will agree that he had it coming.

    Articles like this one from Erik Wemple are simply laying the groundwork for this. Underestimating the enemy can be fatal.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Maybe he is secretly packing and doesn't want anybody to know.
  180. @Trevor H.
    Tucker isn't taking the threat of physical violence seriously. He should consider that when and if the "unthinkable" happens, the MSM and all correct-thinking people will agree that he had it coming.

    Articles like this one from Erik Wemple are simply laying the groundwork for this. Underestimating the enemy can be fatal.

    Maybe he is secretly packing and doesn’t want anybody to know.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    That's not going to help his wife & children when he's at work.
  181. @AnotherDad


    The name of the fallacy in Wimple’s article is the fallacy of the undistributed middle ...
     
    Thanks Lot. I looked it up, then did a review of this concept of "distribution" (which i'd figured out from the example).

    I've often thought that students should get a course in logic. I think any college student should have a solid grounding in history, geography. But i do think we skew education too much to particulars--now with this destructive anti-education "victimology" nonsense--and don't drill down on basic competence in reasoning abilities.

    We have these political and journalistic "elites" who are on the whole
    -- mediocre with data (analysis, charts, graphs)
    -- poor in statistical and probablistic reasoning
    -- innumerate
    -- lack basic logical reasoning.

    One listens to the typical mainstream media in America and thinks "in a country of over 300 million this is the best we've got?"

    Yes, logic and stats should take the prized place of trig and calc in high school and most college majors.

    Humanities and social science are a long lost cause and should be defunded.

  182. @MarkinLA
    Maybe he is secretly packing and doesn't want anybody to know.

    That’s not going to help his wife & children when he’s at work.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    That’s not going to help his wife & children when he’s at work.
     
    He should move his family to VA and arm his wife, but he is too DC for that.
  183. @SMK
    "Alleged crimes...caused by immigration." That immigrants, legal and illegal, have committed millions and millions of crimes, or any crimes apparently, is a "racist" myth! "Alleged injustices against white farmers in South Africa." No white farmers and their wives and children have been murdered by blacks after being raped and gang-raped, vaginally and anally, tortured, mutilated, skinned alive, boiled in oil, ad nauseum. And then cannibalized? Such atrocities and horrors are purely chimerical.

    What an odious creature. Is he a liar or is he psychotic, totally delusional, completely estranged from objective reality, impervious to facts and logic. "Straight white males" are the most execrable, insane, guilt-ridden, masochistic, self-loathing, and suicidal of all left-liberals. How much power and influence would leftists and leftism have if not for "straight white male" left-liberals"?

    I have found this to be true, in my many travels. SWMs are the most vicious haters of white males on Earth, followed closely by SJW females. Often striving mightily to please their (masters) real or imaginary.

    But the SJW females generally do it for effect, and quickly look around to see ‘how it went over’ and how much cred they’ve gained. SWMs do it out of pure hatred–they simply love to see their own kind suffer. Assuages their egos somehow.

    POCs–for their many failings–almost fail to register, mainly performing however they think they should.

    Thus it’s clear why we’re in such a nightmare scenario. The decades of MSM training have brought forth the intended results.

  184. Mike Enoch of therightstuff.biz says that, I think, Eric Striker has a connection in Tucker’s staff, and that one way or another, TRS’ talking points get through to Tucker. If true, Tucker using WN talking points is no coincidence.

  185. @MarkinLA
    A good old-fashioned run on the banks. We were this close to it.


    Blah, blah, blah, "We were staring down the abyss". Nobody knows because that is what we have the FDIC for. Commercial banks did close and nothing happened after the FDIC stepped in. Yeah, the FDIC didn't have enough money but that is where the bailout money should have gone and ALL the shareholders should have lost everything (that includes AIG and the investment banks).

    You are not thinking this through. So private accounts are going to be protected. That’s nice. What about corporate accounts? Your employer has a payroll account that suddenly goes poof. How would you like not getting paid? Ok, let the government protect payroll accounts (which alone would likely be multiple times the cost of TARP.) What about accounts used to pay vendors? All of a sudden, tens of thousands of companies have their revenue go to zero. A wave of bankruptcies follow, which triggers a chain reaction that in turn causes more bankruptcies, and so on.

    Modern Americans piss and moan when the annual GDP growth goes from +4% to +1%. They have not a faintest idea what it’s like when GDP falls -10%, or -25%, or -50%.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    You mean they couldn't have extended protection to corporate bank accounts without bailing out Wall Street, AIG, and the corporations playing in the money market arbitrage game?

    It is you who is not thinking this thing out. People who deserved bailing out would have gotten it. Those deserving bankruptcy would have also gotten what they deserved.

  186. @MikeatMikedotMike
    If you were white do you think you would have received the same reaction from your peers? Legitimately curious.

    If you were white do you think you would have received the same reaction from your peers?

    I was often called a Nazi in college, so what do you think? If I were white, I think I’d have been liked a bit more. Being a traditionalist, religious conservative AND not white can be pretty lonely on a college campus. Why do you think I hung out at Campus Crusade for Christ a lot? Thankfully I had a very nice, supportive girlfriend… whom I married shortly after college (she was hassled a lot for dating me).

    Overall my undergraduate years were pretty unpleasant. I was older than other students, had just come from military service in Asia, didn’t take kindly to spoiled bullshit from my would-be peers, worked (I moved office furniture), was an athlete (Judo, which meant no funding or support), and was too knowledgeable for my own good, to be cocky about it. The leftists couldn’t out-argue me, so they engaged in a lot of ad hominem and also tried to get me in trouble with the administration. It felt like there was a faction on campus that was dedicated to driving me out of the university.

    Of course, I wasn’t (and it’s impossible to be) aware of the interior lives of other students, but most of my white male peers seemed to be coasting through it all well, drinking, partying, and fornicating. I mostly stuck to a few friends who were serious about their studies, athletics, and God (a couple of them were actually interns for intel agencies, so they had to be clean) or were otherwise grad students.

  187. @Mr McKenna
    That's not going to help his wife & children when he's at work.

    That’s not going to help his wife & children when he’s at work.

    He should move his family to VA and arm his wife, but he is too DC for that.

  188. @anon
    This is 100% sour grapes by Wemple. Tucker humiliated him on his show. As someone notes in the youtube comments, the reaction at 4:28 is priceless.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZX1KlXhMw

    Wemple looks a bit like that sidekick deputy US Marshal in “Justified.”

    He was my favorite character on the show.

  189. @Art Deco
    You're citing Tim Wise as an authority?

    What's interesting is that there actually is a Michael O. Krauthammer who is a peripheral faculty member at Yale.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/bbs/molmed/people/michael_krauthammer.profile



    Someone needs to contact him and tell him that some person is making silly crank posts using his handle.

    And the Stalinist Socialist Workers Party endorsed Obama in 2008. Probably Hillary in 2016 too.

    Gus Hall thanked Richard Nixon for executing the Communist Party platform. That’s the party that endorsed the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Gus Hall thanked Richard Nixon for executing the Communist Party platform. That’s the party that endorsed the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

    Thanks for the historical fiction. It's been an education.


    And the Stalinist Socialist Workers Party endorsed Obama in 2008. Probably Hillary in 2016 too.

    The Socialist Workers' Party was a Trotskyist organization which had at one time a pretty persistent sectarian hostility to the Communist Party of the U.S. IIRC, it had a couple thousand members coast to coast ca. 1985. I used to see their members hawking their newspaper in my old neighborhood in that era. They favored 'production for use and not for profit' blah blah.
  190. @Wilkey
    I have noticed that, of people still allowed to actually have their own television shows, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham are, by a longshot, the most articulate of any who stand up to defend anything that may actually be thought of as conservative. They sat exactly what I would say, and how I would say it, if I were smarter and more articulate than I am. If there were any real justice in this world one of them would be president and the other would be chief justice.

    Which means, of course, that they should watch their backs. The pitchfork mobs will be coming for them shortly. I hope they can float. Or can't float. Like very small rocks. I can never remember which it's supposed to be.

    Our opponents want to go back to the moron, war mongering, amnesty for illegals accepting, loudmouth Hannity and O’Reilly types as the voice of conservatives.

  191. @Simple Psuedonym
    Hate speech a meaningless cliche of recent invention by parasite such as you. I'll say exactly as I please.

    After hubris cometh the fall mongrel..

    It’s pointless to reply to the likes of Kraphymie.

  192. @Trutherator
    And the Stalinist Socialist Workers Party endorsed Obama in 2008. Probably Hillary in 2016 too.

    Gus Hall thanked Richard Nixon for executing the Communist Party platform. That's the party that endorsed the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

    Gus Hall thanked Richard Nixon for executing the Communist Party platform. That’s the party that endorsed the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

    Thanks for the historical fiction. It’s been an education.

    And the Stalinist Socialist Workers Party endorsed Obama in 2008. Probably Hillary in 2016 too.

    The Socialist Workers’ Party was a Trotskyist organization which had at one time a pretty persistent sectarian hostility to the Communist Party of the U.S. IIRC, it had a couple thousand members coast to coast ca. 1985. I used to see their members hawking their newspaper in my old neighborhood in that era. They favored ‘production for use and not for profit’ blah blah.

  193. @inertial
    You are not thinking this through. So private accounts are going to be protected. That's nice. What about corporate accounts? Your employer has a payroll account that suddenly goes poof. How would you like not getting paid? Ok, let the government protect payroll accounts (which alone would likely be multiple times the cost of TARP.) What about accounts used to pay vendors? All of a sudden, tens of thousands of companies have their revenue go to zero. A wave of bankruptcies follow, which triggers a chain reaction that in turn causes more bankruptcies, and so on.

    Modern Americans piss and moan when the annual GDP growth goes from +4% to +1%. They have not a faintest idea what it's like when GDP falls -10%, or -25%, or -50%.

    You mean they couldn’t have extended protection to corporate bank accounts without bailing out Wall Street, AIG, and the corporations playing in the money market arbitrage game?

    It is you who is not thinking this thing out. People who deserved bailing out would have gotten it. Those deserving bankruptcy would have also gotten what they deserved.

  194. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    As pointed out already it’s just a malformed application of set theory and/or logic;

    (X ∈ A) ∧ (X ∈ B) ∧ (Y ∈ B) ⇒ Y ∈ A

    It’s true iff A ⇒ B, which is not generally the case.

    Did Cheney like Wizz Fizz as a child? If so, I am a war criminal.

    (I suppose I should have picked an example where the RHS is not unconditionally true… ooops)

  195. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure it’s not the associative property? I could never remember which of those various properties was which.

    Me neither. Can anybody help us out?

    Transitive is funnier for rhetorical purposes but binary and quarantine fit better here.

    The logic is that there is a division of ideas into completely separate and unequal Good and Bad sets, and Goodfolk are only allowed to choose from the Good menu of thoughts.

    The weak form of the fallacy (Carlson is bad) is that Bad opinions are quarantined from good people. Hold a bad opinion and you are bad.

    The strong fallacy (Carlson is a neo-Nazi) is the Binary Law that also bad people only choose from their own menu. Thus if Carlson agrees with a Nazi on one thing, his opinions are Nazi on everything else. There is only an Us and a Them.

    To return to the HPD discussion, the binary thing is called “splitting” (conceiving of others as all-good or all-bad) in the psychology of Cluster B disorders. The modern left has many histrionic features and this is another of them.

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