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From iSteve commenter Anonymous Jew:

From iSteve commenter Anonymous Jew:

In my mind I love replaying the whole scenario with the shoe on the other foot:

1. A group of Black teens waits for a charter bus in DC. They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.

2. A group of Neo-Nazis, all White adult males, begins to taunt the group, calling them “Negroes” and someone yells “Go back to Africa.”

3. An individual from a group sacred to the right – let’s say a white male decorated Marine combat vet – sees what’s going on. He marches in front of the black teens and starts banging on a military drum while singing the Marines’ Hymn in their face. The Black teens respond by smirking at him (because there wouldn’t be a full-on fist fight by now if it were Black teens…)

Has the left really gone this insane? I went on the NYTimes comments section of David Brook’s tepid mea culpa and was shocked (but should I be anymore) to find the lefty Times readers still defending the Indian and attacking the White teens. Again, keep in mind these were teens and the other all adults.

The left keeps on topping itself. When the London Underground stopped using “ladies and gentleman” to not offend trans people I thought, surely, this must be the bottom. Apparently not.

This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people.

 
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  1. Realist says:

    Trump doesn’t need to give a State of The Union speech. Anyone of intelligence knows this conutry is a on a shit slide to hell.

  2. ” There’s simply no arguing with these people. ”

    Memory hole this comment if you must Steve, but the above is exactly why it’s going to require violence to fix.

  3. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    “This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people”
    No doubt, for decades several times a day we encounter something that in some way accelerates the insanity of leftism, something that tells us they will never stop and are completely incapable of reason.

    But who is really crazier? They are obviously insane, brainwashed, in the throes of religious euphoria, evil, all of the above. It makes sense that they act as they do.
    We are not crazy we insist but we allow them to run our nations, they have the nuclear weapons, the universities, our economy is in their hands. A sane people would round them all up and institutionalize or execute them.
    Instead we hope they will come to their senses while knowing perfectly well for decades they will not they will get crazier and more deadly,they are literally calling for murdering white men, oh wait white male children as of last week, in the most prestigious publications in our nations.We might as well be in Johannesburg.And they don’t just call for it they do it and when they do they are excused and when we defend ourselves we are prosecuted.Yet we sit and hope that mitch mcConnell or someone will save us, while denouncing the alt right.

    The left at least intends to live and looks out for its interests that is the foundation of a sane perspective. Their rationale for killing raping and robbing us may not make sense to us, but ultimately it makes sense from their perspective.What is truly insane is that we are fixated on whether the people robbing raping and killing us have a reason that makes sense to us.

    Its way past time for civil war lets admit what really stops us is cowardice not reason

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
  4. Jake says:

    “The left keeps on topping itself. When the London Underground stopped using “ladies and gentleman” to not offend trans people I thought, surely, this must be the bottom. Apparently not.

    This is mad. ”

    We live in something that is more insane than was the USSR under Stalin. Cultural Marxism is less grounded in reality than economic Marxism.

  5. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    No, buddy.

    This particular abyss has no bottom – although The Economist et al must rank as the ultimate arses.

    Believe me it can and will get much much worse. Inconceivably worse.
    Think of the loonies possible Monty Python sketch and multiply by a million.
    Think of the most explicit LA pornography being screened at a Victorian English country Vicarage Tea Party. It’s *that* level of insanity we are talking about – the way ‘moderns’ are conditioned to think of Babylonian Temple sex rites – what we consider ‘obscene’ and ‘ridiculous’ were the most solemn and holy rites possible.

    As the old saying goes, ‘ it’s all about “cultural relativity” ‘.

  6. TTSSYF says:

    Didn’t intend to agree with it requiring violence to fix…at least, not yet. I still think we should at least try the option of strengthening federalism by self-sorting to red states and making them overwhelmingly red.

  7. bomag says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    require violence to fix

    Plenty of violence coming from the Left now; street protests; lawsuits; doxxing; media smears.

    Copied from below by YetAnotherAnon:

    We are in a bind, because if we do anything to fight back, we will give those who hate us more “proof” to show the gullible public. This has already happened many times, and every time the media uses normal reactions by whites as evidence against us.”

    Welcome to the dilemma faced by patriotic parties/movements in the UK like the BNP or EDL (or even UKIP). Attacks on you will be ignored by the media if serious injury is caused, if you’re chased down the street with things being thrown it’ll be used as proof of your unpopularity.

    If you stand your ground and fight (as EDL often do when attacked), or even if you don’t, the headlines will read “35 arrested as trouble flares at EDL march” – even if every one of those 35 people is a left winger, and the local press will say “their hate-filled marches bring trouble to our streets” – half-true, but highly misleading because all the trouble comes from the other side.

    If someone finally has enough and goes postal like Thomas Mair – who killed his local Labour MP in the UK – stand by for the canonisation of the victim and 24/7 coverage. If someone like Theo Van Gogh is killed – well, he was asking for it, wasn’t he?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  8. theMann says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Also agree, and see my comment in the sixties thread.

    These lunatics are both a spiritual and physical sickness upon the world. They need to be treated as such.

  9. Arclight says:

    The left has completely fetishized the entire concept of being ‘of color’. I have very smart progressive friends who use social media almost exclusively to trumpet the amazingness of various minorities – mind you, nearly all of them live in extremely white communities of course, not where they might accidentally get some real live diversity on themselves.

    Anyway, as many others have pointed out, today’s anti-racists are really members of a religion. They have their creation myths, a concept of original sin, and a demand for perpetual repentance.

  10. Tyrion 2 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    What do you want to achieve?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  11. Where’s James Cameron at? We need him to dive deep into the ocean so he can raise the bar.

  12. Dr. X says:

    This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people.

    That’s true — but there’s always been people with whom you cannot argue.

    People are usually not persuaded by arguments, they’re persuaded by the consequences (and by the cost) of being wrong. Only when they foresee that there will be real price to pay for being wrong will they start listening to arguments.

    The signal feature of the contemporary Left is that they live in a cosseted, self-referential bubble in which there is no consequence for being wrong, and in fact there is much social affirmation for being wrong. Essentially, the Left are the prisoners of Plato’s cave, and they believe that the shadows on the wall are reality. Anyone who contradicts them will be regarded as the crazy one.

    The problem is that if they ever do “see the light,” it’ll be too late and they’ll drag the country, and all of the rest of us, down with them.

  13. Thirdtwin says:

    “…shocked (but should I be anymore) to find the lefty Times readers still defending the Indian and attacking the White teens…”

    Why are you shocked? The House Judiciary is still going after Kavanaugh for perjury. Nobody backs down anymore, when there are no consequences for doubling down.

    • Replies: @bro3886
  14. Tim says:

    I have also been shocked by how the media (the left) has kept to their original narrative. I think after the facts came out a few did the old, “we were wrong” bit, but now even that’s been brushed aside. I think they just think they can (and have chosen to) just power through this.

    It’s an assault on truth and on anyone who disagrees with them.

  15. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    The liberal braintrust has already been pondering this hypothetical.

    17,000 retweets and 58,000 likes.

    A big basket of irredeemables.

    • Replies: @Hail
  16. There’s simply no arguing with these people.

    Oh, there is arguing. Just not reasoning.

  17. Barnard says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    What do we have after the violence? How does this happen without a police state being the end result?

  18. Stick says:

    Looking forward to the Covington students visiting the White House. Any chance Nanzi will attend to meet with her fellow Catholics? Kavanagh? This will be better than a SOTU address if it is bookended by Maduro hanging from a lamp post in Caracas.

  19. DFH says:

    1. A group of Black teens waits for a charter bus in DC. They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.

    The big difference is that if they were wearing Hillary regalia (and, more obviously, because they were black), they would be good people but because the children were in fact wearing Trump hats (and were Catholic and white), they were bad people. Also because of America’s legacy of ingrained white supreamcy etc. etc.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  20. Corn says:
    @Arclight

    “Anyway, as many others have pointed out, today’s anti-racists are really members of a religion. They have their creation myths, a concept of original sin, and a demand for perpetual repentance.”

    Original sin indeed. One of the disturbing things about the modern Left is their view on race. It used to be irrational prejudice was thought to be something that could be ground out of a person through logic, good education, life experience etc.
    Nowadays prejudice is like original sin. If you’re white, you’re born with it. And there may be no absolution.

    • Replies: @Arclight
  21. I went online and found the local newspaper for Covington, Ky. A breakdown of the time line of the video presents a decent defense of the smirking horde. A letter from the Covington mayor proclaims there is no place for hate in our town. Sadly, to me at least, was the number of comments condemning the boys, some dripping with hate, some expressing extreme angst over the future of America. I got the feeling that there is a concerted effort to smear these boys a “Trump spawn.” Without the red MAGA hats there was no hook. By the way, Covington Catholic’s mascot looks like a Kentucky Colonel, need to burn and bury that image.

  22. I read some of the comments to the Deadspin piece isteve linked to. The strain of comments I found most bizzare was the claim that if roles were reversed, and blacks had been acting this way and harassing someone, it would be all over the media as a way to racially vilify blacks. It seems to have escaped their astute observational powers that there literally WAS a group of blacks (the Israelites) harassing people, and no one would have known about it if not for THE SMIRK.

    • Replies: @densa
  23. Whiskey says: • Website

    Most likely is President Harris outlaws all straight White men. Meaning literally we have no legal protection whatsoever. And any person of color can do whatever they want to us.

    This is the final solution to straight White men.

  24. Bruni from the NYT also had a very tepid mea culpa. I tried to post a very short comment that the media pile on againt the teens was just a manifestation of the anti-white racism prevalent in the MSM.

    Apparently the comment never made it through the mods. I do believe NYT will frequently scrub their comments of disfavored viewpoints.

  25. @Arclight

    Anyway, as many others have pointed out, today’s anti-racists are really members of a religion.

    They are a scourge of proselytizing Church Ladies. White people in general and Trump in particular are their Satan.

  26. @Realist

    There’s nothing Trump could say about the wall/immigration that everyone doesn’t already know.

    I was thinking about it the other day and I believe it was pretty politically savvy of Trump (or an advisor he listened to) to wait until after the midterms for a wall fight. This makes the shutdown a Democrat issue, too, and it’s still a long way until the next election. This may cost Trump, but not taking a stand would have certainly cost him the presidency.

    When the Republicans controlled both houses, he still wouldn’t have got the $5.7 bil. The old saw about ‘explaining means you’re losing,’ is doubly the case when it comes to the inner workings of congress. All the public knows is that the R’s control both houses; they don’t want to hear about Repub immigration fifth columnists in the house or that it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass a spending bill.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  27. My high school English teacher, well aware of where things were going way back in the 90s, would often say (in response to what was the latest leftist insanity then, but which no doubt would be considered “radical, right-wing hate” in Current Year): “There is no bottom.”

    So in response to the anonymous Jew author, I’d say to heed the words of my old English teacher. I believe he was right.

  28. @Buffalo Joe

    That’s just sad, Joe. Those older people in the establishment, such as that Mayor, are such cowards compared to those teenage boys. I am without photoshop, but I have half a mind to doctor up Colonel Sanders in a MAGA hat when I can. It could be the new logo for the restaurant in China, cause they have no idea who the guy is, in the same way as nobody here knows the heroic feets of General Tso and his CEF (Chicken Expeditionary Forces).

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  29. This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people.

    The time for dialogue is obviously over. At this point, I no longer care what they are thinking or why they are thinking like this (I truly have no idea). I see hostile enemies that seek to destroy me, my people, and my way of life. (Not “POC” by the way – the problem is Jews and white (traitor) liberals).

  30. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Nah, it’s the opposite. Normal people just ignore them. If they can’t, they treat them like the damaged people they are.

    Do you argue with a Downs kid, even if he’s thirty? Same thing.

  31. Thea says:

    As Mark Richardson at Oz Conservative put it so succinctly, liberalism has no breaks. It’s baked into the cake that elevating eachunique individual’s pursuit of maximum autonomy as the highest good leads to chaos.

    You can’t maintain a slightly liberal society however nice it might be. So the London tube announcement change fits and more craziness follows.

  32. >Has the left really gone this insane?

    This is not insane

    It’s tribalism

    Our tribe is always right and just and the enemy tribe is always wrong and evil, period. That’s how it works

    Yes sometimes this means defending “bad people” who do “bad things”. Deal with it

    There is no neutral audience watching your life as a movie that you can appeal to by being “impartial”

    There’s just a bunch of other tribes with their own interests licking their chops

    Get with the program or get anihilated

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @GW
  33. Tiny Duck says:

    If you guys don’t like the fact that the MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE AGAINST YOU then you can just leave.

    white supremacy is still a cancer on society but we are NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE

    The piece of excrement kids got away with this times but in the future they will be dealt with swiftly and justly

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @Anon
  34. Beckow says:

    …The left keeps on topping itself.

    That will go on. Ideologically insane political movements always hit their full stride once they realize that they don’t have people support. After Trump and Brexit they had to escalate. There is no other way to get what they want.

    They are very angry, some already hate openly, and they are starting to demand that people be punished. Hillary’s mild ‘deplorables‘ chastisement had an air of superiority. Today it has moved to ‘punch the smirking white faces‘. If they lose in 2020, they will go really nuts. They do hold all power in the West, all institutions, and no election can change that. Maybe people should reconsider and just do what they say…

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  35. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    If Jamal Kashaggy(sp?) were still alive, I’d bet his Qatari government ghostwriter would have written the ultimate takedown of these smirkers from Cincinnati

  36. @Desiderius

    Your analogy fails in that people with Down’s Syndrome are not in charge of the government, universities, military, corporations, and media; not are they disenfranchising healthy people of their patrimony and even basic civil rights.

    If they were, you would have to knock them around – or, at best, restrain and contain them physically even if without harming them – until they were stopped.

    If you cannot reason with witless or evil people minding their own business, it is indeed wise to ignore them and avoid them, but if those same people insist uppn accosting and importuning you, and efforts to reason with them prove futile, escalation is not merely merited, but required.

    One sees this in ethical policing. Motorists minding their own business are let alone. A driver zooming dangerously about will be told by police to stop, and efforts made to reason with him (maybe he is racing to the hospital with a greivously wounded passenger or a pregnant woman in labour…). However, if our zooming motorist resists efforts to assess and address the situation reasonably by stopping long enough to explain himself – he’d actually get the benefit of a police escort to clear traffic! – then out come the spike strips….

    • Agree: Bill, Counterinsurgency
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  37. Jack D says:

    1. A group of Black teens waits for a charter bus in DC. They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.

    2. A group of Neo-Nazis, all White adult males, begins to taunt the group, calling them “Negroes” and someone yells “Go back to Africa.”

    3. An individual from a group sacred to the right – let’s say a white male decorated Marine combat vet – sees what’s going on. …The Black teens respond by smirking at him.

    None of this would ever happen. Black teens would never be seen with something so uncool as a Hillary hat. There are no groups of Neo-Nazis marching around DC . Black teens would respond with violence, not a smirk. I understand you are trying to create an equivalent scenario to show the operation of who-whom, but it’s just not a realistic setup.

    The Left openly admits that “racism” does not have a commutative property. According to some of our brilliant racial theorists (and they say this with a straight face and no one laughs at them), only white people (the “privileged”) are capable of racism due to the societal imbalance in power – oppressed people can never be racist. So giving a tables turned example doesn’t impress them at all.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  38. @Arclight

    They are (re-)creating people of color in their own image.

    It’s what gods do.

  39. the left one this one. They have pushed the boundries again.
    Let’s say these kids did do those things they were accused of. As adolsecant behavior goes, I see far worse every day.
    The left — did any one see Tim Wise’s tweet – he was pretty much calling for wrecking their lives – does far worse EVERY DAY.
    Yet the establishment left and right and even most ‘ordinary’ people agree- it would be ‘ok’ to punish those kids – for the rest of their lives .

    MSM still hasn’t condemned or is outraged about the behavior of the indian or black israel troupe.

    the message is VERY clear.

    The left and many of the Jewish establishment are practically foaming at the mouth ready to go full kulack on white gentiles…

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @Anon
  40. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I still hope it won’t come to this, but I increasingly start to find violence impossible to avoid.

    However, I think that – apart from a few feeble attempts from the right – it will mostly be leftist violence. The soft totalitarianism will harden, and perhaps get more organized. Antifa boots stamping on MAGAteen faces – forever. And then the MAGAteen getting indicted.

  41. Clyde says:

    2842 comments at David Brooks’ NY Times piece on bang drum Indian vs Covington Catholic kids
    Here are the top two reader’s picks>> “Smirk” is used twice>>>>>

    Andy
    Cincinnati Jan. 22

    Nick Sandmann’s parents have hired a Louisville PR firm(RunPro?) to start gaslighting and cowing the media over this and apparently it’s working. FWIW, I’ve watched a lot of the videos, and I still see boorish, intimidating behavior that bordered on a mob mentality on the part of these students regardless of the spin on either side. If I had a kid that behaved in that manner toward an elderly man I would be very upset with them.

    Also lost in this was the irony of a bunch of white males from wealthy families taking off school and traveling three states away to try and deny half the population of basic reproductive rights. Indeed the epitome of white male privilege.
    3114 Recommend

    Mark Kessinger
    New York, NY Jan. 21

    Having watched both the original video, and the video that the supporters of these kids claim is a vindication of them, I see nothing in the latter that in any way justifies their behavior. The claim is that the boys had been provoked by another group. Perhaps they were, but. . . provoked to do what, exactly?

    They claim that the young Mr. Sandmann was “standing his ground.” Really? Against what challenge? What I see in the video are two groups, one of the high school students, who are milling about, and the other the native American man and his group, who seem to be moving through the park in the course of their protest, and this is what brings the two into close proximity. Normally, in a free-flowing public setting such as this, there’s an automatic give and take of space as people try to move through such a crowd. But for this young man, any such “give” is apparently too much to ask. And so this young man chooses to maintain nearly chest-to-chest contact, his face a foot from the man’s face, staring directly at him and smirking. The student has said he was smiling to demonstrate that he and his friends were friendly and accepting. Sorry, but the totality of his smirk, his stare, and his chest-to-chest stance constitutes a body language the meaning of which is well known to any male over about the age of 8. It was clearly an attempt to intimidate, and those kids deserve to be called out on it.
    2419 Recommend

    ANOTHER>>>>>>>>

    N. Smith
    New York City Jan. 22

    No matter how this all started, or who did or said what, the entire incident is just a microcosm of all the rage, bigotry and hate that is flowing through this country’s veins these days.
    And to a very great extent it has been fueled by the venal rhetoric coming out of the White House on almost a daily basis.
    I look at the jeering faces in this photograph and think of what has prompted these young white men to don those red MAGA hats — and I’m not only fearful for the future of America, I am actually ashamed of it.
    2196 Recommend

    • Replies: @Aguynamedme
    , @El Dato
  42. The Black Hebrews or ‘prophets,’ as my buddy from Bed-Stuy calls them, are out almost every day in NYC if it’s not too cold or rainy.

    They wear costumes made out of tea towels and curtain material and often wear toy breastplates and carry plastic swords. They used to carry real swords until NYPD told them, listen, you can stand out here all day calling white people ‘devils’ and displaying charts describing the origin of the world’s races ( spoiler: all from Africa except whitey who is from the Devil), but you can’t waive around a real sword while you’re doing it.

    They had a spot near my old office in Brooklyn for years. No permit, of course. They just set up every day near the Fulton Mall and spent several hours yelling about how evil white people are. No big deal.

    I used to walk by on the way to lunch and say ‘Keep up the good work!’ Then they’d get get excited and yell profanities at me while I walked away. I mean really excited; everyone pretty much ignored them, so I like to think they were at least a little grateful to be able to yell racist crap at a white guy. I might even have smirked once or twice, but only because black racist insults can be pretty funny.

    Anyway, one can only imagine how long a group of three white guys talking about how blacks are descended from pigs would last on the streets of BdB’s NYC. To be fair to Bill, the prophets have been around for decades. They had a group up by Times Square who would yell at tourists.

    Once on the UWS ( they don’t really bother with this foolishness in black neighborhoods) I saw their best bit, an indictment of the Olympics as an excuse for Greek homosexuals to wrestle each other naked. Highly amusing rhetorical flourishes aside, it was food for thought.

    Blacks do crazy stuff in public a lot, but everyone just ignores it. Even in a video that’s been circulating a week, people just tune out the crazy racist blacks, ’cause whatdya gonna do with the Schvartzes?

  43. Hail says: • Website
    @Realist

    The first words of the State of the Union speech (whenever it is given) should be a statement of demographic turnover from the same time last year to present:

    President Donald Trump: Members of Congress and my fellow Americans. I am here to address you the state of our union, now in its 230th year.

    What has changed in the past year? Our estimate is that at this time last year, we had a total resident population of 335 million, of which 40 million were foreign born legal residents and 20 million were foreign-born illegal aliens. Of the U.S.-born, we had a further 20 million anchor-babies that prevent us from deporting a large portion of the foreign-born illegal aliens.

    A team of our best researchers has been hard at work updating these numbers. We have gained a net of 1 million legal foreign born, 750,000 illegal aliens, and 250,000 anchor babies.

    Our native-born White population has again declined for the third year in a row, this past year shrinking by 150,000, to 198.0 million.

    My fellow Americans and distinguished members of Congress, this is a demographic crisis. I will tonight lay our our plans to reverse these negative trends, support native-born Americans, and provide a path for the illegal aliens and their anchor babies to humanely repatriate to their countries of origin.

    This is what we need to hear.

    • Replies: @densa
  44. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Should read ‘country’.

  45. Hail says: • Website
    @Arclight

    today’s anti-racists are really members of a religion

    Saint Martin Luther King was canonized into this religion in the 1980s.

    See Peter Brimelow, Time, Once Again to Rethink Martin Luther King Day (originally at VDARE.com)

    At the time [1983], there was much MSM hyperventilating because Reagan had not roundly rejected the idea that King had Communist connections.

    But this was simply a demand, now familiar, for religious conformity to the burgeoning King Cult. Reagan’s was the only rational position, especially given the (widely-known but little-reported) information that Senator Helms had already placed in the Congressional Record.

  46. Bugg says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    When I worked in DA’s office in downtown Brooklyn, one of the BIs was fond of walking around with a drum, banging it all day,screaming “THE WHITE MAN (bangs drum) IS THE DEVIL!(bangs drum),” for hours at a time. Guy must’ve leather lungs to scream all day and been high on something strong. Suspect a lot of them are closet cases because they are obsessed with the gay. But as you note, this daily craziness is never spoken about.

  47. Jack D says:
    @Jack D

    Further to this point, in the next thread I mention about how NY Times critic Wesley Morris writes that unlike liberal whites who invent racial reconciliation fantasies such as Green Book in order to make white liberal audiences feel good about themselves, when black artists portray interactions between the races, they authentically portray “the actual emotional, psychological work [there’s that “emotional labor” again – why ain’t I gettin’ paid extra for my emotional labor of having to put up with white people?] of being black among white people. Here, the proximity to whiteness is toxic, a danger, a threat.”

    Sure Wesley, every day you go to your office in the Times news room, not sure whether those Sulzberger crackers are gonna lynch you today.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/arts/green-book-interracial-friendship.html

    Again imagine a white critic writing in the NY Times about ” the actual emotional, psychological work of being white among black people. Here, the proximity to blackness is toxic, a danger, a threat.” Despite being more truthful view (I know white school teachers who have had their jaws broken while working in black schools, white girls who have been murdered by their black boyfriends) you could never, never write this without being drummed out of polite society.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  48. @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed, Sadly, the Bishop of the Diocese, the Mayor and the school principal all threw the boys under the bus.

  49. @Barnard

    Fight to win and then make the rules.

    Some of y’all cant stand up straight unless someone else staples an iron rod to where your backbone should be.

  50. @Desiderius

    Dangerously wishful thinking. How could you believe this after the tsunami of people jumping in with the original Covington story?

    Lots of “normal” people still get their news from the cesspit that is Yahoo News, or local papers, most of which have been reduced to mere reprinters of wire stories, and the agencies are getting more converged by the minute.

  51. @Buffalo Joe

    The mayor, who went so far as to say “The school’s not even actually in Covington!” Subhuman scum.

  52. J.Ross says: • Website
    @27 year old

    This. The last ritual pretense of Marxian historical science and theoretical burbling has been Surcouf’d to allow for maximum velocity into the darkest African mist.

  53. bro3886 says:
    @Thirdtwin

    No consequences to backing down because the immigrant vote has made them impervious to political backlash. “I’m not against immigration, I’m just against ILLEGAL immigration! Ple-e-e-a-se don’t call me a racist!” Assholes. You’re a serf in the country built by your ancestors right now, and your children will be abject slaves.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190120180119/https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/nathan-phillips-covington-catholic-high-school-march-for-life-mocking-students-spit-cross/

  54. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Buffalo Joe

    Without the red MAGA hats there was no hook.

    I disagree, there are many such cases where the evil white man was not wearing Trump regalia other than his skin. The selling point to the lyingpress was the seemingly perfectly framed photograph.

  55. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    He should just give a speech on what he wants to say from the Oval Office. Screw Pelosi. Why let her have any leverage this way? The people would hear it all the same. Heck, give Fox the exclusive coverage rights as a middle finger to the left- dominated MSM.

  56. El Dato says:
    @DFH

    They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.

    You can’t fault people silently protesting against Forever Slavery By Whites, especially if the only legal way to make their voice heard is by winning Oscars for movies about Forever Slavery By Whites.

  57. Well, we did have part of that in the UK a year or two ago where an unaesthetic EDL marcher had a little staredown with a smirking asian girl, who was celebrated as a hero in the national media for said smirk.

    https://www.joe.co.uk/news/the-woman-pictured-facing-down-an-edl-marcher-has-spoken-about-the-powerful-photo-121024

    Included in the article is an approving tweet from cuckservative rent-a-troll Piers Morgan.

  58. @Tyrion 2

    I don’t understand the question.

  59. El Dato says:
    @Clyde

    No matter how this all started, or who did or said what, the entire incident is just a microcosm of all the rage, bigotry and hate that is flowing through this country’s veins these days.

    NO MATTER HOW THIS ALL STARTED!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  60. 1. A group of Black teens waits for a charter bus in DC. They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.

    2. A group of Neo-Nazis, all White adult males, begins to taunt the group, calling them “Negroes” and someone yells “Go back to Africa.”

    3. An individual from a group sacred to the right – let’s say a white male decorated Marine combat vet – sees what’s going on. He marches in front of the black teens and starts banging on a military drum while singing the Marines’ Hymn in their face. The Black teens respond by smirking at him

    In the future, this will become one of the questions on the Voight-Kampff Conservative Test.

    Bladerunner Replicant Test

  61. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The only actual literal tin-foil hat I’ve ever seen was on some crazy black guy dressed like that down near NYU

  62. The left keeps on topping itself. When the London Underground stopped using “ladies and gentleman” to not offend trans people I thought, surely, this must be the bottom. Apparently not.

    This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people.

    It makes more sense if you assume that they’re not really trying to argue about what happened or apply any sort of universal standard and are just getting the fact wrong – the point is that they can have the wrong facts and still push you around with their power. In fact, the less the facts favor their narratives, the greater the display of power.

  63. anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    Re: Gillette….

    The online ad only primed the pump. DDay is Super Bowl Sunday. Does Gillette double down in realtime on linear TV?

    Latest from Davos…CEO talking double down.

    1. P&G Grooming problem area.

    2. Used ‘Conversation’ rhetoric. Claimed that men want to ‘be better’. Claimed that every day, PR getting better. Claimed that opposition ‘well organized’???

    3. Claimed that it is too early to tell effect on sales?

    4. Claimed that advertisement showed men stepping up. Not anti male.
    ____________________

    Observation: Everyone from Gillette clueless about anti-white narrative.

    Observation: Visceral negative reactions from older White males.

    Observation: Overall mildly favorable reaction from MSM. After all, just amped up consensus narrative.
    ______________________

    Nike fake conversation was both more subtle … sacrifice for beliefs … And,most importantly, it offended a demographic that doesn’t buy their products for premium prices.

    ______________________

    Chrysler screwed the pooch by tossing in MLK quote in truck ad, but they were Ram Trucks. Dodge is one of the least valuable brands around. Ford F-150 and Chevy are nearly Harley level iconic. FWIW, there is a Chevy C10 lifestyle thing that has cropped up. https://youtu.be/fNaRjhhi0AI C-10 is the poorman’s Augusta.

    Chrysler is the anti/darkside brand if it is anything. I will admit to at least looking at ads for their Challenger retro muscle vehicles. Featured brand in last season of Breaking Bad.

    ______________________

    P&G does know something about marketing. Of course, so did the guys that introduced New Coke. Phillip Morris/Altrea would never do it. PM had decades of the subtext of ‘adult pleasure’ vs death.

    P&G is like most large businesses, executives are never rewarded for maximizing declining cash flows. So they just see the reflection of the multi billion bone in their mouth in the elusive Millennials.

    70% odds they will run with it. 50/50 it gets gets serious negative traction. The anti white subtext is a true dog whistle. Gillette can’t even hear it.

  64. RDoughnut says:

    Steve, check out this NYT article…
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/black-hebrew-israelites-covington-catholic.html

    “Though they have been name-checked by Kendrick Lamar in a rap called “Yah,” they have also been denounced by others as a hate group”

    -so name- checking is some form of moral absolution

    “adherents contend that race does not exist, and so they eschew being referred to as black or categorizing anyone else by race. They group people instead based on what they call nations, believing that there are 12 tribes among God’s chosen people. White people are not among those tribes, they believe, and will therefore be servants when Christ returns to Earth.”

    -Race doesn’t exist, they don’t categorize by race, but Whites must be servants

    “If their interaction with the Catholic students seemed like an expression of bigotry toward white people, some of their most vile language is reserved for black people in the communities where they preach.”

    -“seemed”, ok.

    “They argue that the best response to the evils of government is to separate and form their own institutions, Ms. Beirich said.

    That is not necessarily a radical idea for many black people. But Ms. Beirich said that groups like Hebrew Israelites were also anti-gay, anti-white and anti-Semitic.”

    -good to know.

    https://www.nytimes.com/by/john-eligon

    The quality of journalism is rapidly declining. For how long will legacy institutions hold up maintain their status?

  65. theMann says:
    @Barnard

    We already live in a Police State. Whatever end result we have, that isn’t going to be a particular worry.

  66. @Desiderius

    Invade the world; invite the world; save the world.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. Dan Hayes says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Buffalo,

    Agreed. After throwing the students under the bus, the Bishop, the mayor and the school principal then ran over them – all in a good day’s work!

  68. Corvinus says:

    “1. A group of Black teens waits for a charter bus in DC. They are wearing “I’m with her” Hillary hats.
    2. A group of Neo-Nazis, all White adult males, begins to taunt the group, calling them “Negroes” and someone yells “Go back to Africa.”
    3. An individual from a group sacred to the right – let’s say a white male decorated Marine combat vet – sees what’s going on. He marches in front of the black teens and starts banging on a military drum while singing the Marines’ Hymn in their face. The Black teens respond by smirking at him (because there wouldn’t be a full-on fist fight by now if it were Black teens…)”

    Except here is the issue. The Neo-Nazis are reviled for a particular reason. The white combat veteran is aligning himself to their cause. Right or wrong, fair or unfair, he is going to be targeted.
    The darkies, of course, are displaying deplorable behavior similar to the Covington Catholic teens. Both enjoy causing a scene, and in their frenzy, the group members play off one another. Boys will be boys, right? Groupthink and group polarization are at play here.

    “I went on the NYTimes comments section of David Brook’s tepid mea culpa and was shocked (but should I be anymore) to find the lefty Times readers still defending the Indian and attacking the White teens.”

    For being douches. The fact of the matter is that the Coalition of the Fringes Left and Right are taking this issue for their own designs, with the opposing side erroneously stating that their commentary represents normie thought.

    “This is mad. There’s simply no arguing with these people.”

    It’s called an echo chamber. The SJW’s and the Alt Right live in it, yet dare not admit that they reside here. Right, Stephanie?

  69. Corvinus says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    “Invade the world; invite the world; save the world.”

    The mantra of the European Christian colonizer and imperialist.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  70. Corvinus says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    “Memory hole this comment if you must Steve, but the above is exactly why it’s going to require violence to fix.”

    LOL, right. So are you in the front of the line or in the back of the crowd? Are you prepared to jackboot lefties and their “evil” spawn? Because that is exactly what it will take in order for the nation to “right itself”. Seriously. Are you ready to salt the earth and take out entire families?

    Yes or no. Answer the question, please.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  71. @anon

    What’s stopping us is any kind of competent leadership class.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  72. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Got to admit, the Black Hebrews in Times Square have a certain apocalyptic appeal.

    I love that Spiderman is in just standing in the crowd.

  73. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Violence is avoidable.
    It would either take a helluva uniter of a leader, or

    Robust federalism … Which should be no surprise as this kind of degeneration is contemplated throughout the Federalist Papers.

    The sickness as I see it is people looking at the challenge of restoring robust federalism and shrugging shoulders and saying “too hard, gonna have to be violence”.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  74. densa says:
    @Joe, Averaged

    Agree! Good point. I would submit that The Smirk is a racial construct. People are able to see it on the boys already made bad by their hats, the whiteness, and their youthful vigor. The Black Hebrews could have smirked, sneered and snarled (and probably did) with no one noticing or televising. People often smile in socially awkward situations.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  75. @Barnard

    Gee, I don’t know, why don’t we ask the founding fathers?

  76. @bomag

    “We are in a bind, because if we do anything to fight back, we will give those who hate us more ‘proof’ to show the gullible public.”

    That’s a bind to those who fight back and get railroaded, but not in terms of those who hate us then having more “proof.” They will not hate us one bit more than they hated us before. Thus, in respect to “public opinion,” one has nothing to lose. As for the zombies who believe what “public opinion” tells them to believe, they are non-entities. What is the popular term these days? “NPCs.” 

  77. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “The sickness as I see it is people looking at the challenge of restoring robust federalism and shrugging shoulders and saying “too hard, gonna have to be violence”.”

    If you don’t think violence is necessary to restore the US to its intended state, that’s fine, but you should avoid making false assumptions. Nobody on this side of the screen is shrugging their shoulders.

    The fringe groups and their representatives are not going to accept any negotiation. Their numbers are growing as is their political power, while heritage Americans’ numbers and power are reducing. Your mistake is believing these people are going to just give up the power they have peacefully, or that all we need are even MORE laws on the books impossible to enforce because we already have too many.

    You are not going to convince millions of negros that have lived the entirety of their lives on welfare that it’s in their best interests to abandon that arrangement, but there is going to come a point when those welfare checks stop coming, the public pensions dry up and paper money goes the way of the peso. What happens then? What does history tell us? Do they all go get job applications at McDonalds, or do they proceed to burn down everything they possibly can?

    That is the primer that will ignite the violence. I am not looking forward to it, but it will come regardless of how I feel about it.

  78. densa says:
    @Hail

    Agree. Remind them their job is to work for their country.

    Maybe he could also suggest other solutions if Congress doesn’t want a wall, fence, keep-out sign, whatever. (I’d go for announcing we’re going to start shooting people. Problem would be solved in a week.) E-Verify. No more citizenship to illegal aliens for birthing here, replacing American workers, temporary stays that become permanent, and refugee resettlement. No more meet-and-greets at the border. Sanctuary and amnesty are illegal because they break our laws and dilute the value of citizenship (It’s so diluted now people already claim it shouldn’t exist.) And no more preferential treatment for immigrants via discrimination laws against whites…etc. Give us the entire package if you don’t want a wall.

    As more people talk of civil war and violence, I’d add that all this social unrest has been created by the government breaking the laws both parties decided they didn’t like. In theory, they could have changed the laws from having a country to not, but they couldn’t come right out and admit to being treasonous scum.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  79. @Autochthon

    Thank you for saving me the time of replying by saying pretty much what I would have.

  80. @Barnard

    What do we have after the violence? How does this happen without a police state being the end result?

    War decides who is left, not who is right. If the war is big enough, not that many are left, and the few left eventually return to a civil society that’s something like what they want, but it takes time.

    Civil disorder in the US means the end of US expeditionary capability for quite some time. That includes keeping the sea lanes open. It would probably mean the end of the US Dollar as a reserve currency. The result would be a stagnation in trade that would lead massive starvation in some places (Africa, China) , massive unemployment in others (Germany, China, Australia, etc), and that would result in large scale warfare.

    With any luck, the US would be left to settle its own problems.

    The basic US problem is that the Democratic coalition members can’t exist in industrial society. Either their mean IQ is too low (too many of the group are unemployable, too few understand the Western / Enlightenment abstractions needed to run an industrial society) or they have religious reasons for rejecting rationalism, individualism, realism, and can’t run an industrial society. Islam, for example, believes that reason is primarily useful for showing the uselessness of rationality, that the individual person is a creation of the clan, that realism is a delusion because Allah could change his mind at any second. There are several religions that have objections just as strong, although different in detail.
    The Democratic coalition members _can’t_ live in an industrial society, and contemporary Whites, to be blunt, _can’t_ live without one. (Or maybe with one, either, if you look at the below replenishment birth rates.)

    This has come up before, of course.

    In any case, a police state as the end result of the current situation would be the least of our problems. We’re looking at a major singularity here, much bigger than the AD 1960s, something more like the World Wars.

    Take Eastern Europe, AD 1919, as an exemplar of civil strife coupled with a major war. Historically, Eastern Europe pre-war contained remnants of every wave of immigration off the Steppe to their East. When Napoleon conquered the region, he introduced French Revolution ideas (liberty, equality, fraternity, abolition of all medieval legal systems, everybody interacts with everybody else, no more protections for anybody, etc. The usual Enlightenment mix as mentioned above. This put every last one of the fragments in de facto competition with each other. Some groups did well, others did not, and there was considerable bad feeling. Government kept a lid on violent ways of settling disagreements, but after WW II it could not do so. Bad things happened [1].
    The article [1] doesn’t mention it, but the new USSR (Union of SSRs) tried pretty hard to convert central Europe to SSRs (Soviet Socialist Republics) Sometimes if succeeded , sometimes not. Hungary, for example, had a failed revolution, which added to the disorder and hardship [2].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] “Post-war Societies (East Central Europe)”
    _International Encyclopedia of the First World War_, Version 1.0, |Last updated 12 December 2016.
    https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/post-war_societies_east_central_europe
    2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary_between_the_World_Wars

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. @Aguynamedme

    the left won this one

    I disagree. I think that by seriously trying to destroy the kid’s lives the Left has wandered into terrorism against children. That makes them the bad guys in most women’s eyes, most men too. Bing, there goes another piece of their support.

    The media doesn’t report this, they don’t report a lot of things.

    Counterinsurgency.

  82. @Corvinus

    jackboot lefties

    Boy, are you an optimist.

    Counerinsurgency

    • Agree: Hunsdon
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  83. @Tiny Duck

    CG&LoE.

    Also threatened terrorism against kids.

    Counterinsurgency

  84. @Beckow

    They do hold all power in the West, all institutions, and no election can change that. Maybe people should reconsider and just do what they say…

    Talk to Tiny Duck on that one.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  85. J.Ross says: • Website
    @El Dato

    Yes, that’s what the lyingpress falls back on when they’re losing. There’s just a lot of general negativity going around, for some reason, not sure where it came from, but we sure had nothing to do with it when we were spending hours attacking good people as stupid, assassination-worthy, crazy, dangerous, and subhuman. We all just need to come together and agree unconditionally to our platform, that would resolve everything.

  86. GW says:
    @27 year old

    Ok semantic man. Why is their tribe so insane?

  87. Arclight says:
    @Corn

    Exactly – you can never get clean. All you can do is endlessly apologize and show your commitment by putting the interests of your POC allies before your own, always.

    It’s only in a totally decadent society like our own where this is even remotely an option that doesn’t cost you dearly – in fact, you will be praised by many. In many places in the world and for nearly all of human history, failure to staunchly defend yourself and your interests means you are wiped out or subjugated.

  88. Wilkey says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Sadly, the Bishop of the Diocese, the Mayor and the school principal all threw the boys under the bus.

    The parents who pay the tuition for these kids – and presumably give to the local parish, as well – should yank their kids from the school and stop donating to their parish. Get woke, go broke, as Glenn Reynolds likes to say.

    These school and church leaders gave a big middle finger to their students and congregants. The students and congregants should return the favor.

  89. Wilkey says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Sadly, the Bishop of the Diocese….

    I would add to my earlier comments…the Lexington Diocese appears to be incredibly politicized. It has multiple statements from the bishop on immigration and gun violence, but very tepid statements an abortion and gay marriage. The press release regarding the Orlando gay club shooting mentions gun control and “homophobia” but absolutely nothing about the religious background of the shooter.

    The October 31 statement preceding the 2018 election is particularly revealing. It starts by declaring that “the Church is homeless among the political parties,” but then comes down pretty damn obvious on where it’s home address actually is:

    “We have worked to change attitudes and laws that deny the sanctity of human life and that struggle goes on. Yet, when that issue becomes the only one considered, we have too often ended up overlooking other injustices and even contributing to the destruction of the planet… During this much-hyped midterm election…we should be concerned about the consequences of climate change, which continues to accelerate even while some powerful few deny its existence and reverse advances in ecological policies. We should also be mindful of the refusal to admit our share of suffering refugees to the nation even though we have the means and ability to do so. The freedom of religion which we cherish and defend must apply also to Muslims escaping violence, war and starvation just as it applies to people of our faith. We should remember the cruelty of a policy that separated children from their parents, as families fled violence and hunger in their homelands. The long-standing tradition represented by Lady Liberty in New York’s harbor is reduced to meaninglessness by the refusal to create just and fair immigration policies that provide for family unity, provide the labor that is needed and allow hardworking immigrants to pursue the American dream just as our predecessors did. Our Church teaches that the economy is meant to serve people, not people to serve the economy. Do our current tax policies really support that when reductions of support services are proposed to pay for tax cuts which disproportionately benefit the wealthy? As a shepherd and believer in the Good News of Jesus Christ, I must resist political leaders that are demeaning to women, use racist and denigrating language to refer to entire nations of God’s people, incite division and encourage violence….”

    Why conservatives continue to support the Catholic Church or so many other churches with similar behavior is beyond me. At the very least they should withhold their tithes and donations until this shit stops.

    • Replies: @Graham
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  90. Corvinus says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    “Boy, are you an optimist.”

    It has little to do with optimism. It has everything to do with realism. So, how willing are you to “jackboot lefties”, including their offspring? If so, when? Or are you simply an armchair warrior like a number of the Alt Righters here?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  91. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    This put every last one of the fragments in de facto competition with each other.

    Were they not already in competition with each other before? If not, what prevented it?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  92. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Aguynamedme

    Los Angeles Jewish Journal comes out on Thursday. I checked, not a word about the smirking Catholics, crazy Israelites and drummer boy.

  93. Tyrion 2 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Advocating for violence without a clear set of victory conditions is dumb.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  94. Graham says:
    @Wilkey

    Okay, how about this for a revised version:

    “… During this much-hyped midterm election…we should be concerned about the consequences of fraudulent climate science, which continues to be used by many powerful groups in the state and in private companies to justify higher taxes and infringements of basic freedoms. We should also be mindful of the encouragement of able-bodied young men to invade our nation in search of unearned benefits even though we have the means and ability to prevent them. The freedom of religion which we cherish and defend must apply also to Christians escaping violence, war and starvation in Muslim countries just as it applies to our people. We should remember the cruelty of a policy that encouraged people to send unaccompanied children to our country. The trite doggerel on one of the plaques on the statue of Liberty in New York’s harbor has been used to justify confused and badly-enforced immigration policies that destabilize hardworking American families who wish to pursue the American dream just as our predecessors did. Our Church teaches us to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s. Does our current preaching against supposed tax cuts for the wealthy show any understanding of economics, when we have seen that higher taxes produce lower revenue? As a shepherd and believer in the Good News of Jesus Christ, I must resist political leaders who refuse to speak out for women’s rights in Muslim countries, use racist and denigrating language to refer to entire nations of God’s people, especially the white people who are still a majority in our country, incite division and encourage violence….”

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Wilkey
  95. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Seriously, do you ever NOT conjure up straw men out of thin air? I guess it’s in your nature.

    Understanding that something is required is not advocacy.

  96. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    That is the primer that will ignite the violence. I am not looking forward to it, but it will come regardless of how I feel about it.

    What is the primer? I do not understand what you are referring to.

  97. @Wilkey

    Why conservatives continue to support the Catholic Church or so many other churches with similar behavior is beyond me. At the very least they should withhold their tithes and donations until this shit stops.

    AGREED!

    I was about to write another reply to Buffalo Joe about my knowledge about the change in Catholic schools over the years (never a student, but I have plenty of insider info.). I’ll save that for another thread.

    I will say that it doesn’t help that the TOP MAN of the Catholics, the so-called Pope is a piece of Commie scum schooled in Liberation Theology. (More on the Papal Bull)

    How about that mayor selling off the school as “not actually in Covington” (per Mr. Outrager)? I wonder how many pieces of silver that’ll get him?

    Yes, though, it’s all about the money. That’s all they really care about now. Cut off the money, and these scum will begin to play ball.

  98. @Corvinus

    Corvinus:

    I’m flattered, but I’m a bit old for field work, and the Alt-Right isn’t suited for it, but fortunately the Alt-Right and I won’t be needed. (Why would you be the organizer for this event, BTW?)

    The attempted genocide here in the US (whichever way it goes) promises going to divert enough resources from DoD to make US expeditionary forces impractical. That includes the US Navy, which won’t have the money to recapitalize its existing fleet [1]. _That_, in turn, implies that the US will not be able to keep the sea lanes open, which will make much of world trade unprofitable. China in particular will be affected, and lacks both the sea forces necessary to police its sea routes and the diplomatic finesse necessary for other than force operations.
    The resulting conflicts and hardship (world wide, but probably in the continental United States as well) will make even you long for a simple “jackboot lefties” situation.

    If the Left wanted sympathy and compassion, it shouldn’t have started terrorist operations against high school kids.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] The Navy is so flat broke right now that it’s letting its officer training die on the vine rather than risk loss of a ship due to .
    DANIELLE OHL.
    “The Naval Academy is deteriorating so badly, its mission to train midshipmen is under threat “.
    _The Capital Gazette_; 2019/01/22
    https://amp.idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/national/article224891600.html

    and

    Geoff Ziezulewicz
    “Worse than you thought: inside the secret Fitzgerald probe the Navy doesn’t want you to read”.
    _Navy Times_; 2019/01/14.
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/01/14/worse-than-you-thought-inside-the-secret-fitzgerald-probe-the-navy-doesnt-want-you-to-read/

    2]

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @Corvinus
    , @Jack D
  99. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Do they all go get job applications at McDonalds, or do they proceed to burn down everything they possibly can?

    They won’t get jobs at McDonalds. As I’ve pointed out a few times, a group with average IQ of 85, standard distribution of 12, will have and IQ at or below 83 in ~43% of its population. DoD has a cutoff of 83. People below that can’t do anything productive in the US Army, and are actually dangerous in a combat zone. There is a very strong reason for the cutoff.

    There are jobs for some of the ~43%
    http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/Occupations.aspx
    and there used to be Black janitors in the large cities that made decent livings. Their good friends the Democrats have, however, given those jobs to African immigrants and to Latin American immigrants.

    And the above doesn’t consider the Black’s indoctrination that whites are devils.

    The man pictured is clearly an American who believes what he’s saying.

    In good times (those in the US since WW II) such problems are handled (poorly) by money. In bad times (see archive of my posts, search for “China”) such problems will be handled even more poorly. For the general situation of cities and their inhabitants, see Copley [1]. Copley doesn’t mention it, but cities have no economic function other than finance and political power. They could have had intellectual power, but apparently the Left deeply hated Enlightenment universities and R&D centers and have destroyed the universities and R&D like the Palestinians destroyed the formerly Israeli greenhouses [2].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Copley.
    _Uncivilization_

    2] http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/gaza_green.htm
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4891545
    If you really don’t like your current enemy, _really_ don’t, there is a tendency to burn rather than loot. Bad memories and you don’t want any hint that the enemy might have done anything useful to you.
    But maybe:
    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-destruction-of-the-Gaza-greenhouses-blamed-on-Palestinians-and-used-as-an-example-of-Palestinian-intransigence-when-the-real-reason-for-their-closure-is-Israel-blocking-produce-exports

  100. @Buffalo Joe

    A letter from the Covington mayor proclaims there is no place for hate in our town.

    So Covington’s mayor is going to have to leave, as there is no place for him in Covington. Why would he announce his departure in such a dramatic way?

    Counterinsurgency

  101. @densa

    In theory, they could have changed the laws from having a country to not, but they couldn’t come right out and admit to being treasonous scum.

    Right. The effort wasn’t even kept confidential. It was called “Change America”, and was a major campaign promise.

    Counterinsurgency

  102. @al gore rhythms

    What’s stopping us is any kind of competent leadership class.

    Yep. It’s a fault of any absolute rule. After about the third generation, the ruling class thinks they will rule forever, and start paying more attention to the perks of power than on retaining it.
    I remember back in the early AD 1990s, working for NASA, I was talking to a pair of fairly young women when the subject became “enemies of the US”. The women were convinced that the US had no enemies, and never would. I pointed to Mexico, which claimed the land we were sitting on then, and they denied that Mexico was any kind of a threat. Today, Mexico has the inland part of California. The women weren’t exactly stupid, more self-deluded: their life was comfortable, and they didn’t want to think of anything unpleasant.

    Counterinsurgency

  103. @Anonymous

    Were they not already in competition with each other before? If not, what prevented it?

    Good question. I didn’t think anybody would be interested in that: I’m wrong again.

    What prevented the competition was regional governments. I’ll take Austria-Hungary, as I know something about it.

    Early modern/late medieval society was organized to protect existing institutions. The European aristocracy was unusual as aristocracies go, in that it regarded merchants and manufacturers as a source of regular income, rather than a source of loot should the need arise. This was apparently the legacy of Viking trading posts, which could successfully defend themselves but would rather pay an annual fee to local aristocrats to not be attacked. The local aristocrats used this money to expand their political/military power, and eventually accepted trading towns as a legitimate part of society. This eventually led to charters of protection given to tax paying entities by various aristocratic protectors, and, most importantly, a dependence on the taxes by the aristocratic protectors [1].

    That these chartered organizations were often hideously inefficient was not important to government; the tax revenue was important (much like today).

    This system in Eastern Europe tended to protect small settlements as well as trading towns. The settlements pay taxes, the government keeps the neighboring settlement from destroying its tax revenue, using at least part of the tax revenue to support a “peacekeeping force”.

    It was the tax receiving government that protected the settlements from each other, same as it protected guild members from competition outside the guild. Sometimes good things happen by generally condemned and entirely selfish means[2].

    Napoleon swept all of that away during his brief rule of Eastern Europe. He didn’t just emancipate the Jewish population, he emancipated everybody and every thing. Medieval charters were generally declared invalid. This led to the direct competition, which didn’t quite produce the same result as it did in Western Europe, and in fact set Eastern Europe, Russia, and even Western Europe up for the events of WW I and WW II. Win some, lose some. We live in a chaotic universe.

    Note:
    The Ottoman Empire had something similar, the “millet system” [3], but more for religious and military reasons than to generate tax revenue. There appears to have been very little attempt to increase tax revenue by encouraging productivity among the millet settlements. Supposedly the Ottomans had a saying: “Do not intervene in the affairs of Arabs”. Too bad Bush didn’t do that.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] William H. McNeil.
    _A World History_
    1971.

    2] A. E. Houseman.
    Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries
    https://www.poemtree.com/poems/EpitaphOnAnArmy.htm

    3] Efrat Aviv.
    “Millet System in the Ottoman Empire”.
    _Oxford Bibliographies_, last modified: 2017/11/28.
    DOI: 10.1093/obo/9780195390155-0231
    http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195390155/obo-9780195390155-0231.xml

  104. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    If you guys don’t like the fact that the MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE AGAINST YOU then you can just leave.

    We have been doing that for 100 years. We build a nice, safe society. Others move in. They bring their friends and family and recreate the same problems they were fleeing. We move further out; they follow. We move again; they follow.

    There is now a Muslim community in Twin Falls, Idaho. We are out of places to which we can “just leave”. All our countries and communities have been overrun with people who hate us. Maybe we will just let ourselves disappear from the earth without a fight.

    Or maybe… when we collectively realize we are backed up against the existential wall… when the Saxon learns to hate… you are going to see what it looks like when whitey takes his own side.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  105. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Or more realistically (and optimistically) a natural self-segregation, which we’re already seeing today. There’s already an outline emerging with the Black Belt, the Hispanic SW, the crazy coasts and, of course, Whiteopias in red states. Our political climate makes the required drastic reform to our legal immigration policy increasingly unlikely – never mind building a simple wall. But if anything it also makes secession more realistic. KKKrazy glue can’t hold us together forever. Maybe not in 10 years, but what about 50? If this is the end of Rome, you just might want to move your children to Boise.

    I want to be clear that my sympathies lie almost entirely with historic/core Anglo America. But sometimes I wonder how this new Cold Brazil will turn out and if it isn’t time to brush up on my Hebrew. I joke with my wife that there’s always Israel (she’s a moderately right-of-center Ashkenazi that secretly acknowledges race realism). Unlike us, they were able to build a really nice wall.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  106. @Tyrion 2

    Replied to myself by mistake:

    Seriously, do you ever NOT conjure up straw men out of thin air? I guess it’s in your nature.

    Understanding that something is required is not advocacy.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  107. @Anonymous Jew

    “Or more realistically (and optimistically) a natural self-segregation, which we’re already seeing today.”

    Incorrect. Whites have not been allowed to self segregate for 50 years. Anywhere they go in the US, they are followed by parasitic minorities who demand a piece. Anyplace you think you’re seeing White segregating have merely not had enough time to be infested with minorities.

    “There’s already an outline emerging with the Black Belt, the Hispanic SW, the crazy coasts and, of course, Whiteopias in red states.”

    Again, you’re not observing the process. Functional red state (or town, county, etc.) functions well. White liberals and minorities from a dysfunctional blue state pickup the scent of the functioning red state like cockroaches sense an open container of sugar. White liberals and minorities move in on red state and bring their self destructive voting and lifestyle habits. Within two generations former red state is now a dysfunctional blue state.

    “If this is the end of Rome, you just might want to move your children to Boise. ”

    You’ll just follow me there and fuck that place up too. I’d rather you go to Israel and I promise I’ll stay here.

  108. Hibernian says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    You need to add to your signature.

    “Counterinsurgency
    Airborne qualified
    Professional musician since 1966”

  109. Corvinus says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    “I’m flattered, but I’m a bit old for field work, and the Alt-Right isn’t suited for it, but fortunately the Alt-Right and I won’t be needed.”

    Considering the talk about an impending hot civil war, all hands are on deck, regardless of age.

    “The attempted genocide here in the US (whichever way it goes) promises going to divert enough resources from DoD to make US expeditionary forces impractical.”

    There is no genocide of white people taking place in America.

    “The resulting conflicts and hardship (world wide, but probably in the continental United States as well) will make even you long for a simple “jackboot lefties” situation.”

    I’ll wait for the movie to come out.

    “If the Left wanted sympathy and compassion, it shouldn’t have started terrorist operations against high school kids.”

    Except there was no terrorist operations that took place, just hype compliments of the Alt Right and SJWs.

  110. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “We have been doing that for 100 years. We build a nice, safe society. Others move in.”

    Indeed. The Germans, the Irish, the Italians, the Poles…all barged into Anglo-Saxon neighborhoods.

    “They bring their friends and family and recreate the same problems they were fleeing. We move further out; they follow. We move again; they follow.”

    Indeed. Those dirty, communist Eastern and Southern Europeans ruined everything.

    “There is now a Muslim community in Twin Falls, Idaho. We are out of places to which we can “just leave”.”

    Wow, a Muslim community. Now, imagine Jews, mixed couples, and the Hmong moving in, too.

    “Or maybe… when we collectively realize we are backed up against the existential wall… when the Saxon learns to hate… you are going to see what it looks like when whitey takes his own side.”

    LOL. Right, we are going to see. Just wait, you say. All in good time, you believe. Except…the time never comes, it just gets delayed.

  111. Tyrion 2 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Saying something is required without knowing what for is even dumber.

    • Troll: MikeatMikedotMike
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  112. @Tyrion 2

    Projecting as usual I see. If you can’t comprehend what I said then you’re the dumb one.

    But thanks for contributing to the deconstruction of the myth of Jewish superior intelligence. 🙂

    But back to the topic: Go ahead Morgenthau, tell me YOUR plan.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  113. Jack D says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    How much of this is just an attempt to extort even more money for the military -industrial complex? They can’t fix the pipes at the Naval Academy because each new Zumwalt destroyer they build costs $4,000,000,000. If the contractors would only steal 1/1oth less per ship they could fund ten Naval Academies.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  114. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Some people live in a fantasy world.

    If a total of 70,000 unique individuals liked and/or retweeted that, and if one-third were Jewish or Nonwhites who used that tweet simply as an ethnic attack, that still leaves 45,000 White gentiles.

    That’s quite a lot, given this is a tweet by a White political account with 120k followers, seemingly endorsing a crazy conspiracy theory (that the ‘system’ as anti-Black) and attacking their own people. I would ask, what share of these 45,000 are just virtue-signaling or trolling but know this is bogus, and what share are True Believers?

  115. @Jack D

    How much of this is just an attempt to extort even more money for the military -industrial complex? They can’t fix the pipes at the Naval Academy because each new Zumwalt destroyer they build costs $4,000,000,000. If the contractors would only steal 1/1oth less per ship they could fund ten Naval Academies.

    It would be nice if we had a military industrial complex. In reality, we have defense companies (LMT, NOC, RTN) that make profit margins lower than Black and Decker (SWK). Look it up sometime.

    We are spending about 3% of GDP on defense. Some argue that we should be spending less and less. How is that even possible? Do you see us spending a smaller % of GDP on teachers? How about housing? You don’t think military pay has to keep up with inflation? How about materials? You think materials costs go down over time? Note that students and building materials don’t actively and adaptively resist the efforts of teachers and construction workers. Whereas potential military adversaries definitely work to thwart the efforts of all of the service branches.

  116. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard

    You should have thought of that before you allowed this chaos to develop.

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