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From the New York Times:

Always Removes Female Symbol From Sanitary Pads

The redesign was a response to requests from nonbinary and transgender customers.

By Heather Murphy
Oct. 22, 2019, 6:15 p.m. ET

In a nod to transgender and nonbinary customers, Procter & Gamble said this week that it was removing the Venus symbol, which has historically been associated with womanhood and the female sex, from the wrappers of Always brand sanitary pads.

“For over 35 years Always has championed girls and women, and we will continue to do so,” the company said in a statement. “We’re also committed to diversity and inclusion and are on a continual journey to understand the needs of all of our consumers.”

The move followed efforts by some customers who menstruate but do not identify as female to push Always to abandon the symbol. It was applauded by some on social media for its sensitivity to the mental health of a wider range of customers.

Steph deNormand, a patient advocate for transgender health at Fenway Health, who uses the pronoun “they,” told NBC that seeing “female-coded” imagery while purchasing menstrual products could create a sense of distress for some customers. “Trans and nonbinary folks are constantly misgendered, and a gesture like this can broaden out the experiences and open up spaces for those who need the products,” they said. …

And then there’s this puzzling paragraph:

On social media, others pointed out that they had never seen a Venus symbol on an Always pad. Asked about this, Procter & Gamble said that only the products that currently carry the design will be affected.

This reminds me of the 1980s when some Fundamentalist Christians got themselves worked up over P&G funding satanism, as proven by the old P&G Man In the Moon logo.

“Do not joke about this. The client does not think these rumors are funny,” we were instructed.

Eventually, P&G sued Amway for promoting these rumors and won a $19 million judgment.

 
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  1. When truth becomes stranger than fiction… I wonder how much of this trend has to do with deeper, non-gender related issues? I remember my prof telling me when he was up for tenure, that in academia the fights are so fierce because the stakes are so small. From a societal standpoint, why has this gender-issue become so mainstream? Is one of the reasons that when one feels one can’t really affect change on much else that one tries to find visible issues to champion, however small the impact, it gives one a sense of control over a larger situation? Similar to social-media activism.

  2. The move followed efforts by some customers who menstruate but do not identify as female to push Always to abandon the symbol.

    So the symbol upsets them, but they can accept the fact that they menstruate though they don’t identify as female. I don’t identify as female either, and if I started menstruating I’d rush to the emergency room.

    Clearly, they just enjoy yanking everyone’s chain.

  3. As the song says, “Girls Just Want To Have Fun.”

    There was a joke told by a comedian years ago that went something like this:

    When tampon ads began appearing on television, they depicted all of the things a woman could do while wearing the product: ride horseback, swim, jump around, slide down bannisters …

    A little girl saw these commercials and told her mother she wanted to buy some tampons.

    Mom asked, “Why do you want tampons? You’re too young. You don’t need them yet.”

    Her daughter responded, “But Mom, if I have tampons, I can do all kinds of fun things, like ride horses, go swimming…”

  4. WR says:

    Trojan, what are you waiting for?

  5. SND says:

    I guess misidentification of these folks might be considered a blood libel.

  6. Thursday says:

    I am a man and I buy the ointment used to treat vaginal yeast infections because it was recommended by a doctor for treating fungal infections in skin creases. Should I press the manufacturer to put their anti-fungal cream in more neutral packaging?

    These people should get over themselves.

  7. black sea says:

    This doesn’t really have anything to do with “broaden[ing] out the experiences and open[ing] up spaces for those . . . constantly misgendered trans and non-binary folks.”

    It’s about virtue signalling to their much larger customer base of more-or-less ordinary women who wish to see themselves as allied with an edgy social justice movement. In other words, herd consumer behavior.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @MBlanc46
  8. Pithy comments aside, there is a desperation among conservatives, especially those who have put their faith in “Muh Constitution” and “Muh Democracy” to sort everything out, that this shouldn’t be happening but it is. And they realise can’t do anything about it without the full force of the state coming down on them!

    Some like Matt Walsh are tip toeing around fedposting, even as they realise the Ruff Tuff Texas that they think is a bastion of individual rights is 1000% more likely to send the Texas Rangers to stop them from halting an irreversible procedure on a 7 year old versus sending the Rangers to stop what is a gross breach of morality.

    And that’s what happens when you box yourself in with legalese and submitting to the kritarchy: Judge Woke Medusa decides your son is gonna be a girl and you’re going to like it. No wonder the Conservative Grifters are too busy tweeting about LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT EVER. BOOM!.

    This is the sort of thing that lays the rot of current society bare, as well as exposes the fact conservatives have conserved absolutely nothing, but you have to vote for them so an unelected mandarin can order your kid put on hormone blockers, legally.

    For all the talk of how you can’t call the leader of China Winnie the Poo, I doubt the courts there would ever rule in the manner.

  9. Maybe P&G is just trying to boost sales of their feminine hygiene stuff by widening their targeted market. I mean, things are tough all over, y’know.

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
    , @athEIst
  10. nurdle says:

    There are a few men who have the rare misfortune to get breast cancer. But someone among them is celebrating the diagnosis because it affirms (their?) identity as a woman.

    • Replies: @Alden
  11. Are they trying to create competition for themselves?

  12. The move followed efforts by some customers who menstruate but do not identify as female …

    Presumably the “some customers” would include Eric Cartman.

  13. It’s about virtue signalling to their much larger customer base of more-or-less ordinary women who wish to see themselves as allied with an edgy social justice movement. In other words, herd consumer behavior.

    It used to be, with the progressive Boomer crowd of the counterculture years, that corporate efforts to suck up to consumers in that fashion would invite ridicule, or, at least, be pointed out as the movement being co-opted by capitalists.

    What has changed is that such commercial moves to exploit latter day social justice movements and wokeness are instead seen as sacred and above criticism by the very people who are being coopted, for profit.

    Now, everybody is part of the system, everybody belongs to what used to be called “The Man.” (Of course, that was old sexist Boomer terminology in itself, to deliberately conflate power with masculinity).

    There is no sense of irony, nor self-awareness any more.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @AndrewR
  14. El Dato says:

    It was applauded by some on social media for its sensitivity to the mental health of a wider range of customers.

    Every box now comes with a “Honk Honkler reading NYT” plastic figurine. Do not swallow or insert into body orifices.

    Good News from elsewhere:

    Transgender sex pest loses big, estheticians not forced to wax ‘her’ balls

    [Identifying-as-female canadian Jabba the Trans] Jessica Yaniv lost a court case against multiple women who refused to wax her male genitals; a win for Human Rights in Canada as estheticians will not be punished for refusing services because they don’t consent to handling d**k.

  15. jon says:

    With a name like ‘Steph’, a pronoun like ‘they’, and a mug like this:
    it’s obvious the person is trans, but it is very hard to tell in which direction ‘they’ transitioned.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @Ian Smith
    , @Alden
  16. @Harry Baldwin

    Clearly, they just enjoy yanking everyone’s chain.

    Chain envy.

  17. Kronos says:

    This reminds me of the 1980s when some Fundamentalist Christians got themselves worked up over P&G funding satanism, as proven by the old P&G Man In the Moon logo.

    I still faintly recall minor religious panics breaking out during the 1990s. The older cousins especially remembered it. The whole, Satanic chanting being heard if death metal music was played backwards was a pre-meme meme.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  18. Is there a more appropriate name for a product out in this position than Always Ultra?

    Always Ultra Thin =

    Aw, shit… Naturally.
    Wash it naturally.
    Hurls a twat inlay.

  19. @black sea

    It’s about virtue signalling to their much larger customer base of more-or-less ordinary women who wish to see themselves as allied with an edgy social justice movement. In other words, herd consumer behavior.

    Bingo!

  20. P&G: Empowering the Insane Since the Current Year

    Lest anyone forget, P&G owns Gilette

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Dave from Oz
  21. Lot says:

    “ a patient advocate for transgender health at Fenway Health, who uses the pronoun “they,”“

    This reminds of of the fact whenever they do a pro-third world migration article about a “successful” migrant in Europe (the rare one employed in a real on the books job), at least 75% of the time the migrant’s job is providing government services to other migrants.

    Likewise, grievance-studies majors who don’t end up baristas tend to get jobs at universities encouraging students to hate whitey.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  22. I was finally convinced the end of times is nigh when a tampon disposal box appeared in the men’s room in my company’s executive offices.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  23. “The move […] was applauded by some on social media for its sensitivity to the mental health of a wider range of customers.”

    That’s a really interesting sentence from the quoted article because it can be read in two entirely different ways:

    (1) Some of the customers for P&G sanitary products are men who happen to have been born with the wrong genital apparatus. P&G are to be applauded for not imperiling the mental health of these customers by implying that the products they require are exclusively for the use of women. (This is presumably the way we are ‘meant’ to read it.)

    (2) Some of the customers for P&G sanitary products already have mental health problems, in that they are women who think they are men. P&G are to be applauded for being sensitive to their vulnerability and for not causing these psychologically damaged people unnecessary additional pain. (This is presumably not the way we are meant to read it.)

    Or might this be a case of someone rather cleverly playing the ‘plausible deniability’ game?

  24. Lot says:

    OT:

    Steve, is your jeopardy episode online?

    If you don’t have a link, I can look for it if you give me the season and episode number, or the date if you don’t have that.

    If you just have a tape, have someone convert it to an mpg file and upload to youtube.

    The machine to do it costs about $150, and there are services that do it for you pretty cheap.

    • Replies: @res
  25. Kronos says:
    @PiltdownMan

    What has changed is that such commercial moves to exploit latter day social justice movements and wokeness are instead seen as sacred and above criticism by the very people who are being coopted, for profit.

    Yeah, they’ve been holding a tiger by the tail for decades, but it’s now thrashing more than ever. They can’t let go without being shredded to ribbons.

  26. “This reminds me of the 1980s when some Fundamentalist Christians got themselves worked up over P&G funding satanism, as proven by the old P&G Man In the Moon logo…P&G sued Amway for promoting these rumors and won a $19 million judgment.”

    So, who was to blame for all the rumors about Hotel California being about satanism? Steely Dan?

    On topic, maybe Yakov Smirnoff is behind the tampon thing, around 5:00

  27. Ed says:

    P&G gives IQ tests to its prospective employees.

  28. I’m sure they do test IQ’s. God forbid they hire someone with one.

  29. Just one more example of the corporations getting with “the Program.”

    https://jungefreiheit.de/kultur/2019/kelloggs-bringt-lgbtq-kornflakes-auf-den-markt/

    • Replies: @CCZ
  30. “[C]ustomers who menstruate but do not identify as female”.

    This thread is an awesome take-down of the trans nonsense. https://twitter.com/LaraAdamsMille1/status/1185196529495269376

  31. Jake says:

    “This reminds me of the 1980s when some Fundamentalist Christians got themselves worked up over P&G funding satanism, as proven by the old P&G Man In the Moon logo.

    “Do not joke about this. The client does not think these rumors are funny,” we were instructed.

    Eventually, P&G sued Amway for promoting these rumors and won a $19 million judgment.”

    Perhaps this absurd evil suggests strongly that P&G was back then already in Satan’s orbit, as the Fundies feared.

  32. @Ed

    Is this legal? I thought, it was forbidden because of disparate impact.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Ed
  33. @Twodees Partain

    Maybe P&G is just trying to boost sales of their feminine hygiene stuff by widening their targeted market. I mean, things are tough all over, y’know.

    Wouldn’t more of that stuff sell when things are getting lax?

  34. Ano says:

    Real Men-

    -Never flush their used tampons down the toilet.

    -When at the urinal, always aim with care- to avoid the splashing the (very nice) shoes of the woman beside them.

    This has been a public service announcement on behalf of Procter & Gamble.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  35. Brutusale says:
    @jon

    Fenway Health provides healthcare to the fringiest of Steve’s Coalition of the Fringes.

    https://fenwayhealth.org/

  36. CCZ says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

  37. Thea says:
    @ConfirmationBias

    I think you are right. Combine that with a lack of social cohesion brought about by the dissolution of Western Christianity.

    These people used to focus on sightings of the Virgin Mary on toast and encourage others to agree they see it too. Like the P&G logo satanic image.

    Oh for the good ole days when insanity was channeled into religion.

    • Replies: @ConfirmationBias
  38. Remember that in 2015 Mount Holyoke cancelled its presentation of The Vagina Monologues due to it not being inclusive of women without vaginas. This is only the logical extension of this.

    A modern trend is for towns to declare themselves Stigma Free. I think the world could use a little more stigma, not less.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @MBlanc46
  39. Mr. Anon says:
    @ConfirmationBias

    From a societal standpoint, why has this gender-issue become so mainstream?

    Why does any weird, perverse, and/or pernicious idea become mainstream? Because it has been assiduously promoted by a dedicated minority.

  40. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot

    Likewise, grievance-studies majors who don’t end up baristas tend to get jobs at universities encouraging students to hate whitey.

    Somebody once mentioned to me that whenever she heard interviews with drug addicts going through counciling, what they invariably said they wanted to do when they got straight was become drug addiction councilors.

    • Replies: @Lot
  41. AndrewR says:

    When I first became politically aware during Dubya’s first term, Bible beaters seemed to be ascendant and I had sincere fears of theocracy.

    How quaint those days seem now.

  42. AndrewR says:
    @PiltdownMan

    The plutocrats learned that the best way to prevent socialism from taking hold is to pit non-wealthy people against each other by promoting feminism, “anti-racism,” LGBTP privileges, etc.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  43. songbird says:

    A couple months ago, Johnson & Johnson had a commercial with two gays, where the narrator said something like (I’ll bungle it a little), “We are funding research into an AIDS vaccine. We are not just a company for babies anymore.”

  44. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    How many billions did that ad cost them?

  45. Aquinas73 says:

    Preparation H, you’re next. How strange is that?

  46. @Ed

    Over 110 and they’re out?

  47. @Jack Henson

    The Deep Staters are still congratulating themselves on their “Our pronouns are Orange Man Bad” line.

  48. @ScarletNumber

    Trans is looking like how they walk back Feminism without having to admit they were wrong, as they did with Rape Culture bullshit and the Sexual Revolution.

    • Agree: Alden
  49. Ape Brain?

    I’ve only ever been peripherally aware of Cerno but I think Adams is a fan?

    Not sure what the swipe buys you.

  50. Alden says:
    @nurdle

    Breast cancer is basically genetic. But fat and large breasted women get it more than slim medium ones. Maybe all those female hormones they take caused the cancer by enlarging the breasts and increasing over all fat???

    I predict an outcry for uterus ovary and Fallopian tube transplants from healthy 18 to 30 old car accident victims.

    A broad shouldered big boned man is ok. A soft curvy chubby woman is ok. But load curves and fat on a big boned man and the result is that Pritzker governor of Illinois person.

    Create breasts with hormones and give yourself the same health problems women have.

    It’s so orchestrated and obvious. Who’s behind it? Probably Soros.

  51. @GermanReader2

    Is this legal? I thought, it was forbidden because of disparate impact.

    Only if you use the score as a floor. If you use it as a ceiling, it’s affirmative action.

    I’m sure German has some wonderfully bureaucratic and at the same time earthy locutions for disparate impact and affirmative action.

  52. Garlic says:

    Manstruation

    • LOL: JMcG
    • Replies: @jon
  53. A good corrective for this madness is for someone with the manly name of Rod Koch to throw his hat into the presidential ring. There are many to choose from, and I nominate the mayor of South Sioux City. This has the additional advantage of confusing caucus voters that he’s an Iowan.

    Last fall he beat a Hispanic guy afflicted with vitiligo. But even his healthier patches of skin are lighter than Koch’s. And his photo was taken by someone named Wan. YCMTSU.

    https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lupe-gonzalez-to-challenge-mayor-rod-koch-in-south-sioux/article_0b7e799a-5ff9-5423-846e-ea050a1beaa5.html

  54. bomag says:
    @Jack Henson

    Agree.

    We submit to the courts, but the courts are packed.

    We try to pack the courts; we get woke libs anyway, ’cause the libs own the education brain-washing apparatus among other things.

  55. Gabe Ruth says:
    @ConfirmationBias

    This was one of the Last Psychiatrist’s insights, furious activity (that looks deranged to impartial observers) to mask the reality of complete impotence.

    • Replies: @jon
  56. Muggles says:

    I read somewhere once that it was claimed that Navy Seals or some such military special ops group would carry a few tampons on missions to use in bullet wounds to staunch the bleeding. Not sure if it was true, but seemed logical.

    Later someone commented that this might not be true or a good idea since tampons soak up fluids whereas in bleeding wounds you would prefer the bleeding to be stopped as soon as possible. So having something like a tampon would be counter productive.

    I don’t think P&G is going after the Special Forces market here. Or we would see these things in camouflage colors. Of course I’m sure there are odd usages for these which men might deploy: leaking pipes, etc.

    What is laughable and sad here is that large and very stupid corporations here seem to be endorsing the idea that mere “self identification” can alter biological reality. Unless a “trans” women (former male) has a total and successful vagina/uterus transplant (so far not done I think) then the idea of a male tampon is absurd. So is the P&G idea here than a “trans” man (biological female parts intact) in a mens room might still need these? Or is it just as we suspect, more nutty “virtue signaling” by overpaid corporate drones?

  57. danand says:

    “P&G: Empowering the Insane Since the Current Year”

    I see what you did there Steve, very funny.

    PG&E cutting off the power/current to those insane Californians.

  58. @Kronos

    Everybody in my occult peer group in college got their first exposure at church from some whack-job preaching at us that Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath were devil’s henchmen.

    You can never predict all the unintended consequences when you tickle a butterfly wing flap. A picture is worth a thousand words and a symbol is worth a thousand pictures.

  59. From the Babylon Bee:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/always-appeals-to-men-with-pads-featuring-pictures-of-monster-trucks-pro-wrestlers

    BTW, now it appears that access to bloggers on this site has been changed, and not for the better. Previously, I could click on “Bloggers” in the header, & just the names of those on the blogroll would appear, and clicking on “Steve Sailer” took me to the most recent post. Then I could scroll to earlier posts (all sans comments unless requested), reading as I went, until reaching the end of the most recent posts. Now, clicking on “Bloggers” instead takes me to a page where all of those who fit this category at UR are allocated a block with only the titles of their most recent posts, but with no way to access them other than by clicking on each individual post, bringing up all comments to that post at the same time. When reading any post reached through clicking on the list, I am then constrained in moving from one to the next to clicking on either the last or next one in sequence, these being displayed at the head of the post that I have open. This is a real step backward in easy accessability, and I find it annoying and inefficient in my visits to this blog.

  60. Ed says:
    @GermanReader2

    They’re legal if you can show it has a direct correlation to the job and tasks being performed. Most companies have just decided it’s more trouble than it’s worth. Capital One gives out IQ tests as well. Amazon used to but I think they stopped.

    https://www.graduatesfirst.com/pg-assessment-tests

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @danand
  61. J.Ross says:

    If I buy five packs right now, won’t I be a bigger customer than the activist trannies, and in a position to demand P&G bring the symbol back? What could the minimum number possibly be to make that happen, ten packs? Twelve? Whatever it is, it’s a number hilariously lower than what actual, you know, chicks buy.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  62. Lot says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Haha, I was thinking of adding exactly that as a third example but decided to keep the comment shorter.

  63. @Muggles

    more nutty “virtue signaling” by overpaid corporate drones?

    I wish that is what it was. Sociopaths rise to the top (as they have here with P & G) and they are exercising power for power’s sake.

    They love trying to ram insanity down our throats.

    The poor middle managers/employees are probably undergoing some sort of pervert sensitivity training as we speak.

  64. Lot says:
    @Ed

    I think with the current court only IQ tests whose admitted purpose was racial discrimination would be a problem.

    It isn’t hard for a big company to show IQ test results relate to employee performance.

    It is kind of gauche to call hiring tests “IQ tests” even if that is what they are. So they just choose another name.

    • Replies: @Ed
  65. @Thursday

    “I am a man and I buy the ointment used to treat vaginal yeast infections because it was recommended by a doctor for treating fungal infections in skin creases.”

    I used it on the cat for his ear infection. It’s a fraction of the price for a vet visit but works just as well. He didn’t seem too offended.

  66. @Harry Baldwin

    Dad was recovering from prostate surgery and Mom made a big point that she had put a Maxipad in his Jockey shorts. She seemed to take great delight that her husband had a need for that hated thing.

  67. jon says:
    @Garlic

    Manstruation

    That’s good, we need to spread it far and wide and make that a thing.

  68. jon says:
    @Gabe Ruth

    Last Psychiatrist’s insights

    What ever happened to that guy? I found out about him just as he was about to stop blogging, so I never got that into it, but the stuff I did read was great. He was supposedly quitting blogging to write a book on porn addiction, but I think he also got outed which may have weighted on his decision.

  69. res says:
    @Lot

    Have you seen this site?
    http://j-archive.com/

    I wasn’t able to find Steve in their archive though. They have season pages:
    http://j-archive.com/showseason.php?season=11
    Game pages: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5194
    Contestant pages: http://www.j-archive.com/showplayer.php?player_id=10455

  70. Ed says:
    @Lot

    Yup P&G and Cap one don’t call them IQ tests. If I recall P&G calls them reasoning tests and Cap One calls them “skills assessment”.

  71. danand says:
    @Ed

    Ed, from your link:

    Aptitude

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  72. @danand

    P&G spent a lot of money to have their hiring test validated. The marketing research firm I worked for had been using a final exam created by one of the founders, a professor of marketing research. A lot of good people were hired using that exam. But after a decade or so, the EEOC asked where was our validation. Rather than hire some consulting firm to validate it, we threw it away. My vague impression is that hiring quality declined.

  73. @ConfirmationBias

    The “deeper, non-gender related” issue is simply minoritarianism, the reigning ideology that’s been imposed upon us.

    This has the same purpose all this stuff does: to attack and destroy traditional broadly/commonly held majoritarian norms and culture. It continues, furthers the project of break bonds and atomizing and destroying the nation, in favor of simply a market place, policed by the super-state.

    Some extra minoritarian bonus points–and glee–attach to these minoritarian initiatives that directly attack normal healthy sexual dimorphism and complementarity and hence the healthy propagation of the nation … but otherwise just minoritarian business as usual.

  74. athEIst says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I mean, things are tough all over, y’know.

    We have the lowest black unemployment since 1865.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  75. Alden says:
    @jon

    Looks like a woman trying to be a man.

  76. Alden says:
    @Muggles

    They’d need 400 unripe ovum, Fallopian tubes and some hormone to collect blood in the uterus a few days before the egg makes its journey. There’s another hormone that ripens just one egg a month.

    So much effort for less than 10,000 out of a population of 320 million or more.

    Kotex was actually WW1 surplus medical supplies. The ambulances and field medics had 7 by 4 inch thick bandages. They’d secure them with adhesive tape. It helped stop the bleeding, and kept dirt and bacteria out of the wound till it could be tended. After the war the medical supply companies thought; these were very profitable how can we find another use for them? They found the use.

    Perfection of blood transfusions, skin transplants, plastic surgery, new surgical techniques and instruments , and new military health measures all came out of WW1 as well a commercially available monthly hygiene products.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  77. @Thursday

    I don’t think you should worry about communicating with the manufacturer so much as worrying about wisecracks from the cashiers where you buy this stuff. (Or does the wife get it? Hell, come to think of it, she probably doesn’t want to buy it either!)

    Honestly, one can get another cashier job. I do not think there’d be any way I could resist a good wisecrack about your purchase of vaginal yeast cream, even at the cost of my job. This is probably why I’m not in customer service. Mr. Sailer’s tale about P&G and the Man in the Moon is proof that not everyone can take a joke.

    Let’s just brainstorm here … “I don’t mean to, like, pry, no pun intended, but where exactly do you put this stuff, sir? That’ll be $6.99, if you’ve got your discount card.” “Yeah, and uhhh, I don’t want to be a douche or nuthin’, but … speaking of douche, sir, if you look on the right side of aisle 12 …”

    • Replies: @Alden
  78. @J.Ross

    If it were the fast food business, you’d be what they call a “heavy user”, Mr. Ross. BTW, I talked to an engineer a year ago that worked on tampon-producing machines in Cincinatti. Each line turns out something like 10 tampons per second. That’ll feed a whole subdivision.

    Well, OK, they run an extra line during the full moon.

  79. @Ano

    Never flush their used tampons down the toilet.

    Preach it brother! Or, sister! I wish women had to fix the sewer line like men do, because THEY DON’T LISTEN TO THIS, until they must hold it in till trips to the gas station, while you spend a day renting a snake and/or cutting into the line in the ground.

    I’ve seen it – it’s not the tampons alone. When you have roots that worm their way through the joints (this was the old clay pipe), and LUV LUV LUV that sewage so much that they grow like crazy inside, these tampons are the last straw. I’ve had to deal with this twice.. I’d almost rather have a career in marketing …

    • Replies: @Alden
  80. Not Raul says:

    Only $19 Million?

    Even I know about it, and I’ve known about it since the 1990s.

    These rumors have probably cost P&G Billions.

  81. @Jack Henson

    This is the sort of thing that lays the rot of current society bare, as well as exposes the fact conservatives have conserved absolutely nothing

    Yep, what were we thinking? We should have been voting Democrat the whole time. That’s the ticket!

    Your definition of conservative misses the mark. You have succumbed to the stupidity of accepting the categories of Leftists. Most of what we have in America today, from institutions to the commonplaces of everyday life, are either wholly Leftist constructs, or polluted by Leftist ideas. Not only do we not want to conserve those defects, they are unsustainable.

    You might like perfection. You might prefer perfection. Perfection is not an option. Focus on the actual choices.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
  82. MBlanc46 says:
    @black sea

    For “Herd consumer behavior”, read “Female herd consumer behavior”.

  83. MBlanc46 says:
    @ScarletNumber

    We need a lot more stigma. We need a lot more than stigma.

  84. @Alden

    During the First World War, Kimberly Clark had created a cellucotton product as a surgical dressing. When the war ended, the army cancelled a 375-ton order. Kimberly Clark scrambled to find another use for their product.

    They discovered army nurses had used cellucotton as sanitary pads.

    The company called the new product Kotex, put it in stores, but it didn’t sell. So they called Lasker in to solve the problem.

    First, he recommended calling the product “sanitary napkins” then wrote candid print ads. But when he went to place the advertisements in a ladies magazine, they were refused.

    Lasker then took the ad to the publisher personally. He told the publisher to have his secretary read the ad. If she felt embarrassed, Lasker would walk away. So the publisher called his secretary and in walked a conservative, 60-year old, white-haired woman. Lasker’s heart sank. Halfway through reading the ad, she looked up and said, “This is wonderful. Women deserve to be told about this.”

    With that, the barrier to advertising Kotex vanished.

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinfluence/summer-series-the-most-interesting-adman-in-the-world-the-story-of-albert-lasker-1.4120833

  85. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    Under the strings of a Fender guitar at the headstock, they will stop an annoying buzz if you are playing unplugged in a quiet room.

  86. @Thea

    Oh isn’t that just typical! You think insanity is the exclusive right of the christian white male. You think no one else can see their gods on toast? Will white-male conceit know no bounds? BLACK TOASTS MATTER!

  87. @ConfirmationBias

    Another Dad’s right, but he does not quite make explicit a somewhat nuanced aspect of the theme he invokes; the insanity is not Gargamelian destruction of tradition and culture for its own sake. Evil is seldom that depraved and insensible (“I’ll get those smurfs!”). There is a rational, selfish motivation and purpose underlying the crazes fomented by the powers that be.

    The displacement of the population by hordes of invaders is an economic, ecological, and cultural catastrophe – a genuinely urgent matter that merits hysteria, organised fighting, etc.

    But noticing it, and taking action, is “racist.”

    Now, “racism,” of course, is not much more of a problem than, say, rabies among pet hamsters – but if The Man can have everyone focus vast amounts of resources and attention on “fighting racism” then there remains no capacity to notice, attend to, or take action against anything serious: the overpopulation, the graft among corporations and politicians, the confiscatory taxes, the wastrels shitting in the streets and stealing everything that is not bolted down, the savages beating and raping white children in public schools….

    The Man doesn’t want anyone getting to the nub of these kinds of things, becoming outraged, and taking action, because it will mean the end of the Man’s perpetual Cash & Prizes from “Eternal” Growth of the Economy. Hence, the Man had rather the masses spend all day arguing about the urgent need (for example) to get giant corporations, governments, and universities to stop discriminating against Negroes and “transexuals” – because such discrimination is about as prevalent as rabies among pet hamsters, this channels all the energy and efforts of anyone, anywhere predisposed to improve society to (metaphorically) frantically throw stones into the ocean, exhort everyone else to throw stones into the ocean, and bully and harangue anyone who dares not throw any stones into the ocean, but, rather, to mention that The Man is eating everyone’s lunch back in town so hadn’t we ought to leave the shore and the stones to go do something about that.

  88. Olorin says:
    @ConfirmationBias

    why has this gender-issue become so mainstream?

    Well, think about it, Con. What are its gender-studies-degree purveyors going to talk about instead?

    The twin primes conjecture?

    Searching for perfect numbers?

    P versus NP?

    Lehmer’s totient problem?

    The Andrews-Curtis conjecture?

    William Butler Yeats supplied an ample and deft description of the dedicated minority that pours vast psychological and social energy into nonsense (even if he intended this as a description of another dedicated minority):

    Hearts with one purpose alone
    Through summer and winter seem
    Enchanted to a stone
    To trouble the living stream

    Thing is, these stones get salaries and sinecures for their lithic fixation and hydraulic disruption. It also seems they get pleasure out of making everyone trip over their rocky pomposity.

  89. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Cashiers don’t even look, just pass the item across the scanner. Ever tried to read the print on tubes of toothpaste, cortisone or other creams. It’s it’s tiny .

    Men buying Kotex reminds me of all those sit com episodes in which a man had to buy Kotex, even with a cart load of groceries and it was all so embarrassing.

    Times have changed.

    Going to the cashier instead of the check out machine gives the trannies ample opportunity to sue the big companies because the cashier looked at them funny.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  90. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    We have our buildings roto rotered once a year to destroy all those almost invisible little roots that sneak in through the welds.

  91. @Alden

    That’s mostly true, Alden, but there are people in line with you, and the store near me has lots of staff, to where they ARE seeing what you buy. As I wrote about in “How are you doing today?” – Seriously?, since this store’s corporate-determined greeting was “How are you doing today?”, it was quite ironic when the cashier asked that to the lady in front of me who was buying NOTHING BUT a package of tampons. I was very close to saying “just how do you think she’s doing? Come on, lady!”

    Times have indeed changed. You can say that again.

  92. I can’t help but think this current stuff is a perfect, or near perfect, storm of idiocies (I know, not an original thought). But I have to hold out hope that most people here will come to the realization that at some point, things have to make at least a modicum of sense.

    Who knows, though. I was struck while back in college I was doing a short assignment for a Latin American history class and was astonished to learn that pre WWII, Argentina had a comprable average household income to Canada.

    But also, to look on the bright side, we don’t have regular bombings and such (the worst bombing and arson murders – excepting 911 -were well before the 60s-70s, if memory serves).

  93. @Mr McKenna

    Intersteing. When P&G openly attacks masculinity, Gillete promptly plummets. When they covertly undermine femininity, women be like “you go, girl!”.

  94. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    That’s not what I was saying, boomer. Your terror of having to maybe struggle for a better tomorrow comes through loud and clear tho.

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