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From Pew Research Center, March 21, 2018.

The current population of Nigeria is about 195 million. So, 74% is about 145 million who want to migrate.

The UN projects Nigeria’s population in 2100 to be 794 million. So, 74% of 794 million is, like, a lot.

And that’s one country.

Shouldn’t we be having a, you know, Conversation about the Pew numbers and the UN numbers, and how they interact?

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  1. Hail says: • Website

    The average age among White EU citizens is today near 45.

    The average age in Nigeria is 18.

    At what point will there be more military-age Nigerian men than military-age EU men? This is theoretically calculable with age- and population projections.

  2. Anon[544] • Disclaimer says:

    The most optimistic interpretation is that they want to move to each other’s countries.

    • LOL: Kylie
  3. wren says:

    So if America becomes Nigeria and Nigeria becomes China and 75% of the Nigerians want to leave America because it has become Ghana and Kenya and Somalia, where do they go?


    • LOL: Alfa158
  4. I agree that in the absence of meaningful immigration controls, the next huge wave of migration will come from Sub-Saharan Africa. The region’s population is growing at a ridiculously high rate and the people are very impoverished, so there are strong incentives to immigrate to the first world.

    Of course, Israel is right next to huge numbers of poor Africans and is seen as an attractive place to settle in. For some reason, Israel doesn’t seem scared of African migrants threatening its Jewish demographic makeup. It’s worth asking why. Why is Israel different from Europe and America?

    • LOL: IHTG
  5. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:

    Not all African immigrants will go to Europe or the EU. Poor and middle income countries will absorb African immigrants too.

    It’s been noted that in China, specifically Guangzhou, the African community has been kept to below 20,000 people. But India has been more liberal about migration from Africa.

    While China only has 10,000 Nigerians, India hosts 50,000 Nigerians and 250,000 Africans overall. Bangalore alone is the most African city in Asia outside of the Gulf.

  6. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    How can white people say NO to holy objects?

    Even with all the problems with blacks in the US, people in Minnesota and Maine import more blacks from Somalia.

    Is there a chance that all those blacks will destroy the West? But believing such would be ‘racist’ as the mantra is ‘diversity is our strength’ and ‘black diversity is downright holy’. Also, most white elites(who get to decide)’s perception of blacks come from sports, music, and the nicer negroes they met in book fairs or film-festivals. And some whites fetishize black violence and crime as ‘authentic’ and get thrills from it. The WIRE effect. And white women just think more sex with negroes.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Pat Kittle
  7. Anon[989] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t forget this graph. Half of the people in the black line want to move to the blue line? So two thirds of the population of Europe will be unassimilated sub-Saharan Africans.

    I think that it’s time to start thinking about a way to move all the great art from European museums and all the old books and so on, to Japan for storage during the coming Dark Age. It can be the new Constantinople, China to the east, the Pacific to the west. The Eiffel Tower can replace Tokyo Tower, which was always kind of hokey.

    • Replies: @martin2
  8. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    No. Sorry. That survey is wrong:

    They *ALL* (100%) would invade the west given the chance.

  9. m___ says:

    The parent generation has the augmented drift to breed caused by the incentive to export their children to the US and Europe. Like playing the lottery, getting a child abroad weights heavier then extra man power to labour the land, find a job locally. The visual, call it advertising, the promotion of the West on TV and Internet. The visits of expatriated members within the circle of acquaintances that promote their “success”, mostly for sex and attention, call this “ego”, advertizes the same.

    This should be factored in strategies as to natality comprehension. The “hope” to better their lives of parents by exporting children is a strong incentive to augment natality. South America, the Balkan, the phenomenon plays everywhere.

    Secondly, the phenomenon persists in the expatriated, natality is above that of the host country. Same reason, the speculation, bet of the parents that the children will find willing partners in the country of origin, hence repeating the phenomenon.

    What a factor to be looked over!

    • Agree: ben tillman
  10. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Fortunately, Nigeria is constitutionally unable to manufacture so much as a single screw on a rifle assembly.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @utu
  11. BB753 says:

    “How can white people say NO to holy objects?”

    Why not say it? Don’t be shy. Here goes: “How can white people say NO to BLACK BODIES ?

    Answer: they can’t because Black’s vibrancy index is off the charts. Saying no is not who we are.

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  12. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) was prescient.

  13. dearieme says:

    Weren’t half of all Dems going to move to Canada if Trump was elected?

  14. @Anon

    There’s a lot of Nigerians in South Africa. (Exactly how many is an open guess. According to the official SA statistics, there’s somewhere between 20-30,000. According to the Nigeria Union in South Africa, the figure is around 800,000.) They are regularly killed by mobs. Do a google search for Nigerians killed in South Africa, and you’ll find a steady stream of articles. According to Nigerian papers, at least 118 Nigerians have been killed in xenophobic attacks since 2016.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Hail
  15. @Anon

    Thing has another upside to it: GDP is driven up. The subsaharan migrant’s methods are a bit old-style at times, but they work – have a look here:

    Then there is the local court, which makes sure since months, that this striving young man is not bothered by the racist German law at all. So – everything is just fine!

  16. kissinger says:

    Welcome to the black planet!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  17. AndrewR says:

    Interesting question, but somewhat irrelevant. If the EU really wanted to keep Africans out, it easily could, and will be able to do so probably forever.

    • Replies: @Hail
  18. AndrewR says:

    I had assumed, and I just verified, that those percentages correlate with population density. Nigeria is horrifically overpopulated and will only get much worse. But no one thinks overpopulation when they think of Kenya or Tanzania. Tanzania has only a quarter of the population density of Nigeria. Ghana actually has a significantly lower population density than Nigeria.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  19. @Very Anonymous

    The sci-fi movie District 9 features Nigerian gangsters in South Africa.

    American interviewers just wanted to ask the Boer refugee director about apartheid. He kept telling them a lot of interesting things had been happening in South Africa in the 15 years since apartheid, but they just looked at him blankly.

    • Replies: @Very Anonymous
    , @Lot
    , @PaulS
  20. Beckow says:

    Shouldn’t we be having a, you know, Conversation about the Pew numbers and the UN numbers, and how they interact?

    All societies eventually develop taboos. Taboo means something one doesn’t have a conversation about. It is there, it is overwhelming, but it cannot be discussed.

    In management talk it is the metric that is left out, the one that eventually kills the business, but is left unspoken and unmonitored. Demography and migration are taboo. The cuddly Western Europeans with their nice attitudes and an inability to go for the jugular may be done. But thank God they are keeping a sharp eye on the coming invasion from Russia (any day now)…

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  21. So, 74% of 794 million is, like, a lot.

    Based on an admittedly casual eyeballing of the number of migrants in the rubber dinghy in this popular method of migration, the Nigerians, alone, will have to find about 11.75 million rubber dinghies to complete their migration.

    I expect other, mass, methods of migration will be devised. The land bridge through Sinai and Israel used to look mighty tempting, but the Israelis have wised up at the start of the game.

    Still, even if only 2% of the projected five or six billion Africans expected to be born in the remainder of this century make it through, Europe will be changed beyond recognition, forever. Of course, to many honest observers, it already has been.

    • Replies: @Hail
  22. @Anonymous

    From that Wikipedia link

    Nigerians have a negative public image in Indian society as some Nigerians are involved in illegal activities in India such as drug trafficking, drug abuse, prostitution trafficking, fraud and forgery of travel documents, such as passports and visas, trafficking in stolen documents. There are also more than 500 known Nigerians in various jails across India.

    Nigerians have been attacked by Indian mobs.

    Nigerians, however, are better at fist-fights than Indians, going by this report.

  23. @AndrewR

    Nigeria is the African Bangladesh, with lots of rivers depositing rich soil

    Tanzania has mostly poor soil.

  24. Hail says: • Website

    The Fortress Europe scenario you imply is possible but requires the kind of political will unseen in several generations now.

    Consider this from Pew last year, projecting forward 33 short years (to 2050):

    The number of Blacks by 2050 might be roughly estimated by halving the Muslim estimate (in France’s case, 6% Black and 12.5% Muslim as of today; strongly overlapping categories, of course). This is estimates on current (high migration) trends, and does not account for a possible Sailerian ‘Most Important Graph’ Camp of the Saints flood of Subsaharans like 2015-6. Even without a Black Camp of the Saints, Sweden may be Blacker than the USA by mid-century…

  25. Hail says: • Website

    Europe will be changed beyond recognition, forever

    Nothing is ever forever, of course.

    I predict a future European politics led by an increasingly militant White ethnonationalist contingent. We have already seen the beginning of this. (The speeches of Bjoern Hoecke [b. 1972], the leader of the AfD contingent in the Thurinigian state parliament, are particularly amazing; if this man were somehow Chancellor…).

    My long-term fear is a possible return of American bombs falling on Europe, on the first West European state to turn against the Multiculturalist-consensus in a decisive way, 1990s Yugoslavia style.

    • Replies: @Dante
  26. Anon[132] • Disclaimer says:

    “He kept telling them a lot of interesting things had been happening in South Africa in the 15 years since apartheid, but they just looked at him blankly.”

    A lot of interesting things may be in store for the future, too. When South Africa’s ANC starts stealing white farm lands, will Europeans start asking themselves if their grandchildren will suffer the same fate? Will they even care? They got theirs, after all.

  27. Edward says:

    Economic development in sub-Saharan Africa in the medium-term will raise migration, too. As the following paper states:

    Economic development in low-income countries typically raises migration. Evidence suggests that greater youth employment may deter migration in the short term for countries that remain poor. But such deterrence is overwhelmed when sustained overall development shapes income, education, aspirations, and demographic structure in ways that encourage emigration.

    This will continue for generations. Emigration tends to slow and then fall as countries develop past middle-income. But most of today’s low-income countries will not approach that point for several decades at any plausible rate of growth.

    At the moment some sub-Saharan African countries appear to be incapable of getting development to outstrip population growth. As Steve posted a few weeks ago, the number of people in extreme poverty in sub-Saharan Africa continues to rise.

  28. @Steve Sailer

    I’m a Boer myself (so much for being Very Anonymous), and rather enjoy Blomkamp’s movies. Far as I can tell, most critics indeed get him quite wrong: a movie like District 9 is not really about Apartheid at all, it is about the mess that replaced it. Having said that, his movies are always packed with small details that only oldish white South Africans probably fully appreciate. For example, the fact that the Kruger character in Elysium works for an organization called the CCB was presumably a reference to the Civil Cooperation Bureau of the 1980s ( ). I knew a few CCB operatives back in the day, and could not help chuckling when I saw Blomkamp’s reference.

  29. Hail says: • Website
    @Very Anonymous

    Nigerians in South Africa…are regularly killed by mobs

    Among the possible reasons for this, I wonder how much ethnic feeling (as opposed to foreigner-by-nationality feeling) plays a role. The stronger explanation, though, is that the killings are generally gang-/drug-related and rarely of Hindu-Muslim mass communal violence type. Not that I know for sure.

    Here is one incident of a Nigerian killed by police (in a drug arrest?):

    ThankGod Okoro was reportedly shot dead in Hamburg, Florida West Rand, Johannesburg, on April 9, 2018, by a member of the South African Police Flying Squad

    A Nigerian commenter says this on the death of ThankGod Okoro:

    Another ibo man. too many of these boys are into drugs/crime and their actions impact other Nigerians -ibos too- in ways they cannot control. we can shout to high heaven that Nigerians are being killed if these boys do not change their ways this will continue

    I presume the commenter ascertains ThankGod was of the Ibo tribe due to the name Okoro. An interesting reaction (inter-ethnic Black dynamics), one I would rarely if ever see on the pages of the U.S.-/Europe-centric I-Steve. Is there a Black-African I-Steve?

  30. @Hail

    I wonder how much ethnic feeling (as opposed to foreigner-by-nationality feeling) plays a role. The stronger explanation, though, is that the killings are generally gang-/drug-related and rarely of Hindu-Muslim mass communal violence type.

    There often seems to be a drug-related angle to such stories, especially when Nigerians are involved, but it is not altogether uncommon to read stories about e.g. Zimbabweans and Mozambicans who are thrown off moving trains. Occasionally, it has been necessary to send in the army to restore order in entire areas –

  31. Anonymous[622] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t worry Steve.

    The Economist hath decreed: ‘More black Africans in Europe = More “wealth” ‘.

    Beefman’s Iron Law of 21st century politics tells us that Europe’s politicians – in the urge to be seen as being ‘smart’ dance to any tune The Economist plays.

    So billions upon billions of blacks will flood into Europe.

    Count on it.

  32. notanon says:

    semi off-topic but as the isteviness of the #skyking story doesn’t seem to have registered i thought i’d mention it

    above average white dude who can’t provide a safe nest for his qt gf to make babies in decides to check out in an above average white dude way.

    tens of thousands of years of harsh winter evolution creating dudes whose primary directive is providing a safe nest – and can’t do it – cos banking mafia

    only way out is natsoc but a nice guy so couldn’t make that final step

    (groyper account so knew the score – as groyper is pretty much “nice guy who knows the score but can’t take final step to natsoc”)

    high functioning alienation

    RIP #skyking

  33. Hail says:

    Yes, they are not much of a military force:

    Nigerian Armed Forces
    Active personnel 162,000
    Reserve personnel 32,000
    Budget ₦429 billion ($2.15 billion) (vs. $610 billion for U.S. Armed Forces)
    Percent of GDP 0.4% (2016)

    Nigeria is today closing in on 200,000,000 population, meaning just 0.01% of the population is active and reserve military combined. For the USA, the same figure (active+reserve) is 0.7%.

    Nigeria fielded about the same number of personnel in the first stage of the Biafra War in 1967 as are on its active rolls today (in 1967, 100,000+ on government side and 30,000+ on the Biafra secessionist side, rising to 350,000 combined by later stages of the war; meanwhile, two million civilians starved to death). (Nigeria’s late-war 1969 population was 55 million; meaning the peak-strength during the war of the Nigerian and Biafra armies combined was 0.65% of population.)

    The Boko Haram islamicist group that pesters northern Nigeria is said to have <10,000 fighters.

    And news from that front: The brave men of the Nigerian Army display their valor and rally 'round the flag, err, make that rally in the airport, perhaps 'round the urinals?

    Nigerian soldiers fighting Boko Haram protest, seize airport
    August 13, 2018

    The Nigerian Army said calm has been restored at Maiduguri Airport seized for two hours on Sunday by riotous troops, that it described as ‘unscrupulous” [...] The troops barricaded some section of the airport and fired shots in the air, causing pandemonium, as hundreds of pilgrims waiting to be airlifted to Saudi Arabia for the Hajj, scampered for safety. / (Premium Times of Nigeria)

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @istevefan
  34. BB753 says:

    Never mind how many men (I suppose there are no wymyn or transpersons in the Nigerian army, good for them) they can field in battle. Just how many tanks, planes, heavy artillery guns do they have?

    • Replies: @Hail
  35. Bugg says:

    Neocons have mostly stopped spouting their “proposition nation” nonsense. But Brooks, Kristol, Podhertz, Goldberg, Frum et al should be asked; how do the Minnesota’s primary results, Ocasio-Cortez, the New Mexico Islamic compound arrests, and the general daily Latino mayhem fit in this thesis? Would appear objectively the 2nd generation does not want to be American at all, spare the free stuff. There’s no “yearning to be free” thing going on, simply “gimme that”.

  36. notanon says:

    At what point will there be more military-age Nigerian men than military-age EU men?

    it might take a while yet with actual Nigerians but if you add up all the separate immigrant groups then the answer is “soon.”

    however in a lot of places that ends in lots of different ethnic gangs/militias fighting each other over territory after the white population has been driven out.

    actual civil war is more likely in places where this demographic transition (fighting age males) takes place among immigrant populations which have some unifying factor like religion.

    i’m surprised it hasn’t already started in Paris.

    (“it” being some equivalent of tet offensive)

    • Replies: @notanon
  37. Where are the environmentalists? While everyone else is breeding responsibly, the Sub-Saharan Africans (no idle prefix there) are reproducing at an irresponsible level with negative impact on the environment.

    Also, if Nigerians outnumber everyone else, how will Nigerians make a living by fraud any more?

  38. notanon says:

    actual civil war

    actually i guess the situation developing in some western cities (like London) could be called a low level civil war – just it’s a many-sided ethnic conflict over territory after the natives have gone rather than the more standard two-sided civil war between a state representing one identity and a rebel faction representing another.

  39. Anon7 says:

    Well, at least they are willing to construct their own housing:

    A raid on a New Mexico desert compound turned up 11 children wearing rags and living in filth, and also broke open a bizarre tale of guns, exorcism, and a search for a missing young boy who suffers from seizures and is nowhere to be found.

    Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe said deputies arrested the father, Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, and four other adults on child abuse charges after finding the 11 children Friday inside a makeshift compound in the tiny community of Amalia. It was littered with “odorous trash” and lacking clean water, authorities said.

    Just imagine this in every county in America.

  40. notanon says:

    The UN projects Nigeria’s population in 2100 to be 794 million … Shouldn’t we be having a, you know, Conversation…

    unfortunately for the West (and Korea and Japan) the UN supports replacement migration in all currently industrial countries except China, Taiwan and Israel.

  41. njguy73 says:

    Shouldn’t we be having a, you know, Conversation about the Pew numbers and the UN numbers, and how they interact?


  42. Dante says:

    We are certainly seeing the beginning of that, Europeans are shifting to the right and there are a number of credible nationalist or nationalist inspired parties and leaders emerging all over Europe, Some more so than others but by and large these parties are all on the same side on the big questions ( mass immigration, border control, traditional family values etc ). Some of these parties are in power some in opposition or others are a powerful voice without being in power ( UKIP and the Brexit referendum ) and the left is frequently left with only hysteria to offer, so I am cautiously optimistic that Europeans will and are already beginning to vote in their own ethnic interests. I see the same trends in European Diasporas like the US with the Democrats becoming an explicit non White party and the Republicans the White party as US politics becomes more and more of a skin game ( blacks vote for blacks Asians vote for Asians etc ).

    • Replies: @Crew Cut Man
  43. I use sub-Saharan African Negroid because it is the most specific. Berbers and others don’t want to be lumped in with the sub-Saharan African Negroids.

    Charlize Theron owes her beauty to her Norman French ancestry. I have seen those eyes of hers in the Southern states. Very few people of Norman French ancestry in New England. You got Peaches from Marblehead and Frenchies from Canada, but not a lot of people with Norman features.

    Charlize Theron is a Hollywood nut, but she looks damn good, even when she gains weight for a movie role.

    Why do Whites in the Southern states vote as a bloc?

    The ruling classes in the European nation-states are using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to destroy cultural cohesion and national sovereignty. Banker whores like Rothschild Macron in France want to flood their own nations with mass immigration.

  44. Sub-Saharan African Negroids Have Lower IQ Levels Than European Christians And Northeastern Asians(Chinese, Japanese etc).

    Can’t We All get Along? No, Rodney, We Can’t.

    Can We All Agree That Sub-Saharan African Negroids Have Lower IQs Than European Christians? Yes, we can agree on that.

  45. Tiny Duck says:

    People of Color have may children

    white people do not have children

    white girls PREFER Men of Color because of superior masculinity

    Just accept the fact that your descendents will not look like you

    The future is diverse. Gnash your teeth close the borders but you cannot change the flow of time

  46. PEW is a tax dodge outfit that pushes open borders mass immigration.

    PEW is Sun Oil Company money pot run amok by anti-White globalizer managerial bureaucrats.

    PEW should use this more specific descriptive term — sub-Saharan African Negroid — when discussing that exploding population cohort of Africans.


    This guy gets it:

  47. Bill B. says:

    Not all African immigrants will go to Europe or the EU. Poor and middle income countries will absorb African imm

    igrants too.

    Some maybe but I am skeptical.

    India and China are big countries; Africans in some numbers can be tolerated for a time. Note that the China’s-black-influx story that excited some journalists a few years ago has gone partly into reverse.

    I suspect the more revealing response is that of Southeast Asia where Africans are tolerated in only low numbers as transients or traders.

    The key point is that everyone knows that when Africans reach an ‘intolerable’ percentage of the population they can and likely will be thrown out. That knowledge gives a certain comfort to irritated locals.

  48. BenKenobi says:

    It’s gonna be like World War Z.

    I’ll gladly man the wall.

    Ready, aye, ready.

  49. Q says:

    Bill Gates’ philanthropy is working wonders in Africa. African moms took his medicine, vitamins and vaccinations but say no thanks to the birth control. So now instead of losing half their babies to diseases and malnutrition all 9 kids per family survive to adulthood. But of course Bill has no answers for the grown babies. What? They need Jobs? Move to Europe!

    Fortunately there’s George Soros there to greet them at the other end of the rainbow. His NGOs are there to help tow Bill’s invading army from Africa safely to shore in Europe so they can claim asylum.

    Where would we be without these saintly philanthropists?

    • Agree: Peter Johnson
    • Replies: @LondonBob

    Sailer in New York

    Steinbrenner had a brawl when he was 51 years old.

    Did Steinbrenner own 51 percent of the New York Yankees?

    Bernie Williams wore #51 on his uniform.

    Bernie Williams hit 22 post season home runs.

    51 percent of Republicans think the media is the enemy of the American people.

  51. Cortes says:

    Lots of opportunity in the lands of the future: Antarctica and Greenland.

  52. Note that if the citizens of Ghana of Venezuela were casting votes with their feet, those countries would be abolished. We vote for products and stores with our wallets, and the choices that people don’t like get replaced. The same should happen with countries.

    I do care about Africans. And I agree the best way to help them is to simply move them out of African countries.

    I also care about Europeans + Americans. There are two giant reasons they have to oppose large immigration:
    1. welfare state and government forced equality.
    2. voting. This is the big one. With large enough immigration, you render the political preferences of the pre-existing citizens irrelevant. Especially with ethnic/religious/linguistic tribal voting. That is huge.

    One solution is you move to anarcho-capitalism, completely market driven, voluntary opt-in government. However, this is risky. And I don’t see anyone outside of a small fringe seriously contemplating this.

    • Replies: @RudyM
  53. songbird says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how many Nigerians seem to have a high opinion of their countrymen, but don’t actually seem to want to be around in Nigeria, when as the economists say, it turns into the “new China.”

    I’ve known plenty of Chinese abroad who are interested in living in China, but not many Nigerians.

    You’d think they would want to be part of the upcoming Nigerian superpower, which will, of course, be a technological dynamo, with its own Mars program and flying cars.

  54. England Is Under Attack From Sub-Saharan African Negroid Invaders:

  55. @Anonymous

    Didn’t a fair amount of “Subcontinentals” move into different parts of the British Empire? It might partially be people returning to the ancestral home.

  56. songbird says:

    Haitians go to the DR, because it is a Mulatto population. Trujillo massacred possibly as many as 35,000, but they still come. Jews did not want to go to the DR, even though they were offered like 150,000 visas.

    Meanwhile, Sub-Saharans go to the Maghreb and even Yemen.

  57. bucky says:

    What you need to realize is that if you think Muslims are a problem in Europe now, Black Africans will be 10x worse. Islam, for all of its faults, at least has a moral code and an order to society. It is different from the European order, but at least it is *an* order.

    Black Africans have no such thing.

    So while you might not like seeing women being covered, would you rather have to deal with black Africans cat-calling? Black African criminality and murder? Because that is the choice. Muslims do have a great and civilized past. It is a different past, and one that has fallen on hard times, but it is still a civilization and an order.

    • Agree: kissinger
  58. utu says:
    Sudan claims to be the third largest weapons manufacturer in Africa, after Egypt and South Africa. In 1959, El Shajara ammunition plant was established to produce small arms ammunition. Production was expanded in 1993, when President Omar Al Bashir opened the MIC. Very little information is publically available about the MIC, but according to its website and various product brochures, it has eight main production categories: ammunition, conventional weapons, armoured vehicles and main battle tanks, gear, outfits, and equipment, electronics, aviation, marine, and vehicles, the report states.

  59. Meanwhile, the same Austrian Foreign Minister who telephoned Jean Raspail to congratulate him on his birthday is herself getting married. President Putin is planning to attend the wedding:

    Putin set to attend Austrian foreign minister’s wedding this weekend
    Published time: 15 Aug, 2018 14:02

    It’s nice to see other parts of European Christendom getting on with living. The Anglospherical liberal order may be collapsing in on itself but other people are doing their own thing.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @AnotherDad
  60. istevefan says:

    There is no doubt Nigeria could field a rather large army which means it is protected from ever being colonized again if it chooses to not be. However, fielding a large army domestically and fielding an expeditionary force are quite different. And Nigeria has no ability to field an expeditionary force, especially one needed to cross the Mediterranean.

    If the EU decided to truly defend itself, it is more than capable and doesn’t need to match the Nigerians or other Africans man for man. They would have the advantage in technology, organization and the fact they are on their home turf. Not to mention their complete control of the air would make attempts at crossing the Mediterranean next to impossible.

    Europe, as well as the USA, could have very easily prevented what has happened these past few decades. But the leaders of both Europe and USA chose not just to put up no resistance, but also to actively recruit and subsidize millions of migrants on their own taxpayers’ Euros (dollars). People who were responsible for much less were put to the guillotine in 1790s France.

  61. @Hail

    Sweden may be Blacker than the USA by mid-century…

    Here in the HBD Mitten, we understand the problem with the Swedes:

    Steve’s dad’s old boss Kelly Johnson notwithstanding, they ain’t very bright..

  62. Pat Boyle says:

    I think we today are the last generation in which young men will appear on a battlefield. So it doesn’t matter that much what the age range is in Nigeria.

    War weapons are changing fast. Check out the videos on YouTube. Just a few years ago somebody took one of those little tracked vehicles that are used for bomb disposal and put an AR-15 on it. It has a wireless connection to a handler who can see through the little built in TV camera and hear from the mic. The controller can make it go forward or back, right or left from his distant and protected perch.

    He can also shoot the gun.

    This technology is now almost twenty years old. If you sent a dozen or so of these things against regular infantry they would soon kill them all. these things are cheap and tough. They can’t be stopped with small caliber gunfire, flame throwers, gas, radiation or unkind language. And this is just the basic improvised first model. If you built an infantry robot for that specific job no human would dare go where they would be deployed.

    Then you cut the cord and make it acquire it’s own targets. A killer robot doesn’t have to be very smart to function as an area denial weapon. Let’s say you don’t want to pursue the enemy into the Hindu Kush. Just drop a couple thousand little killer bots and the mountain refuges will empty.

    Everyone went into WWII thinking battleships were important. Now we think carriers, jet planes and tanks are important. But all three may be obsolete quiet soon. Jet pilots will probably be first to go.

  63. bomag says:
    @Pat Boyle

    If robots take over the battlefield, they will even more take over civilian economic life.

    The battle for the future will be who controls the levers of the welfare state.

    Modern transportation + African demographics seems to equal a winning strategy in this warfare.

  64. @bucky

    Muslims are a problem in Europe now, Black Africans will be 10x worse … Black African criminality and murder? Because that is the choice. Muslims do have a great and civilized past.

    Maybe it’s time we referred to them as Arabs or Semites? A case in point supporting your position is the contrast between Dearbornistan and Detroit. Dearbornistan is unappealing to me culturally, but one is perfectly safe there compared to the African city.

    The biggest difference I can discern between Mohamsters and Yeshuans is that the former have fully descended testicles and more militant fanatics. But there is a far more vast and immediately obvious difference between Semites and Africans isn’t there? One doesn’t find news reports about Semitic cannibals or Semites using albino parts to ‘cure’ AIDS. Semites have only been Mohamsterized for 1,400 years, Africans have been Africans (as differentiated from the rest of humanity) for 70,000 years…

    • Replies: @bucky
  65. Lot says:

    Nigeria’s military has not yet been able to fully conquer Nigeria.

    Any European invasion will be of the suicidal invitation type going on now.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @notanon
  66. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Carlos Slim
    Jack Ma
    Ma Huateng
    Numerous other Communist Party princelings
    Gulf Arab Royal Families

    And..Jeff…what is the background of our Fellow White American billionaires??? Too close for comfort???

    And what about the um…endowments of the institutions that employ you and your fellow academic partisans???

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  67. clyde says:

    See how much smart phone usage there is in the African countries where they all want to get out and get into Europe. Steve’s great insight that Africans in Europe are beaming back photos and videos of the great life they are leading (at least compared to African shyte hole X) in Europe. Even have a (white) German girlfriend! Sending these images back to their African bruthas in Nigeria etc. And their fat cassava bloated mothers saying, “Son you are not a man unless you scam your way into Europe and send money back like your friends are doing for their mamas”

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  68. @Beckow

    Yep. Not to be Hitler in the bunker, but if Western Europeans and their diaspora can’t take on the threat of a bunch of low-IQ, unarmed, unorganized tribesmen riding rickety boats to our shores, well, it’s hard to argue that we deserve our place in the sun.

    Nature is a bitch. It’s not survival of the smartest or nicest or most cultured or most moral or most scientifically advanced or most democratic. It’s survival of the fittest, the best adapted to that environment. Whites have turned into pussies (hat tip Derb). Nature – being the intolerate bitch that she is – doesn’t tolerate pussies.

    The graph of African population growth should be no more concern to us than a graph showing the growth of petunias in Peoria. Does this graph terrify the Japanese? Hell, no. Does it terrify the Koreans – North or South? Hell, no.

    If the West can’t deal with this most minor of problems, it doesn’t deserve to stick around. Let it collapse so new, stronger peoples and cultures can arise. I am quite sure that a portion of whites will figure things out and create a new world for themselves.

    • Replies: @mark green
  69. AndrewR says:

    Freshman Australian senator calls for plebiscite on immigration, which he deemed the “final solution” and is viciously attacked by cucks, traitors and invaders from across Australia’s very narrow political spectrum.

    Read the speech here;query=Id%3A”chamber%2Fhansards%2F3cee6e8f-15b4-468c-91dd-05ded6631e43%2F0136&#8243;

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  70. @Hail

    ThankGod Okoro was reportedly shot dead in Hamburg, Florida West Rand, Johannesburg, on April 9, 2018, by a member of the South African Police Flying Squad

    My initial reading of this was that someone was thanking God that a guy named Okoro had been shot dead, and I was looking forward to the explanation of why this Okoro was such an evil badass.

    • Replies: @Lucius Somesuch
  71. Hail says: • Website

    I agree; in the interest of military-conflict scenarios, though, I would propose the idea of China using Black proxies for a future (decades from now) “invasion” of Europe.

    (Quotation marks due to it being terribly unlikely to be a D-Day style invasion in any case, but more like the Syria in the 2010s, with people flowing in from all over slugging it out) (non-Black Muslims as Chinese proxies not likely as they are too unreliable and ideological to cooperate with China).

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @JimB
  72. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Meanwhile, the same Austrian Foreign Minister who telephoned Jean Raspail to congratulate him on his birthday is herself getting married.

    Source for this? Can’t find anything online.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  73. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    District 9 was the worst movie I’ve seen in years.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @thisisaknife
  74. Numinous says:

    Shouldn’t we be having a, you know, Conversation about the Pew numbers and the UN numbers, and how they interact?

    What exactly is the point of YOU having a conversation when it is THEY who are doing the reproducing?

    What exactly is it you are going to achieve by having this “conversation”, when you have no control over them?

    The goals of people on this forum is to basically shut the border to Africans (and others), so does it really matter how big their populations get?

  75. Dtbb says:

    I think our hopes lay in mother nature. She sees the overpopulation of humans and does something about it. Snaps her fingers and says “A pox on all y’all”. Problem solved.

  76. Anon[973] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Welcome to Black Fist Supremacism from all those blacks moving to Europe.

    In NY, blacks have Choke-and-Frisk.

  77. Anon[973] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    I didn’t see D9 but I did see ELYSIUM. It sucked.

    • Replies: @Lot
  78. I’m sure enterprising European engineers will eventually get around to connecting Europe and Africa with a Strait of Gibraltar bridge and/or tunnel – to facilitate “trade” of course. Problem solved.

  79. istevefan says:

    What is the number for Wakanda?

  80. OT but also not at all OT:
    This is a conservative policy but not a Conservative Inc. policy. This is an old school social democratic policy but not a New Left one. Good.

  81. Anon[973] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    The real hypocrisy on immigration.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  82. The excess population of Africa will be decimated long before it can get to any danger point. When life in Europe passes the tripping point of unpleasantness people will start to act. Once the good life is over and white people are desperately looking for work and facing starvation, do you think any negroes will be tolerated in Europe then? It doesn’t matter if the average age of Europe is 45 and the average age in Nigeria is 2, one 80 year old man pressing one button could wipe out 100 million Africans in one second.

  83. bomag says:

    a future “invasion” of Europe.

    The “invasion” seems to be in progress.

    Why invade when you can soon enough buy?

    Will there be anything worth having in Europe?

  84. Whiskey says: • Website

    You have to wonder if Putin will decide that Paris should belong to Russia instead of Africa.

    Mass African immavasion is driven by White women. If it were an invasion of Salma Hayeks there would be 100 foot walls everywhere.

  85. Peasant says:

    Found in an old discussion on the thinking housewife’s website:

    ‘Searching for Zion: The Quest for Home in the African Diaspora by Emily Raboteau. Miss Raboteau appears by all accounts to be, in her political beliefs at least, a rather predictably liberal American black academic (or mixed race, according to the article), convinced, for example, that race is nothing but a social construct. The reviewer describes the book as “the author’s decade-long attempt to discover just where, if anywhere, an African-American might feel at home.” Suffice it to say for the present that her quest turned out to be something of a disappointment. To quote one passage from the article, “Many Ghanaians she speaks with—some of whom appear to still own slaves—concur. Most are incredulous that blacks from the U.S. should wish to come back. At one point a taxi driver mistakes her for a white woman and launches into an unchecked tirade about blacks: ‘These blacks truly expect too much. . . . Don’t they know that if tomorrow a slave ship arrived at Elmina to carry us to America, so many Ghanaians would climb on board that this ship would sink to the bed of the ocean from our weight?’”

    The comment by the Ghanaian seems to have some bearing in truth. In a 2009 Gallup poll, 165 million people, or 38 percent of the sub-Saharan population, said they would migrate permanently, predominantly to white countries, if they could’

    A slave ship sinking to the bottom of the weight of all the Africans wanting to be slaves for the White man lol.

  86. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    A global plumbing disaster as the shitholes of the world overflow.

  87. Lot says:

    Zack B gets a lot of well deserved crap here, but he can dish it up too.

    “Kessler says, during the live stream, that he has been forced to move in with his parents after a series of lawsuits stemming from last year’s violence sapped his funds. It’s an arrangement neither he nor his father seems pleased about.

    “Hey!” Kessler’s father says, interrupting his conversation with the white nationalist and anti-Semitic former US Senate candidate Patrick Little. “You get out of my room!””

    Link is here, but you shouldn’t click it, the good part is above.

  88. Lot says:

    That French sickle cell test birth map sometimes posted here overstates the degree of population replacement. I think this one probably understates it by understating chain migration and migrant fertility. Especially because it says it is a “high estimate.”

  89. @Anon

    “How can white people say NO to holy objects?”

    First, identify the Holy of Holies — explicit in the “Kalergi Plan”:
    — ( )


    …The Zionist-directed strategy of tension outlined in the previous pages does not begin and end with the Middle East. While the Middle East is certainly a major focal point of Zionist intrigues in modern times, there are other less-overt machinations at work, aimed in large part at the West.

    Following the Second World War and the defeat of Nazi Germany, Jewish intellectuals in the West began formulating a cohesive plan designed to weaken and subdue Western cultures. From their view, the scheme amounted to a preventative measure against any possible future backlash on par with what happened in Germany under Hitler….

    …It is beyond the scope of this chapter to cover in detail the inner workings of every Western country’s descent into the multicultural/multi-ethnic fold. But the pattern described here uniformly repeats itself across virtually the entire Western world: from Scandinavia to Germany, Switzerland, France, Spain, Australia, Canada and the United States, it has been predominately Jewish ethnic lobbying, activism and media campaigns that has led those countries to adopt liberal immigration policies and to embrace the ideals of multiculturalism, diversity and an “open, tolerant” society.

    The Jewish elite consensus on the issue is abundantly clear: multiculturalism and multiethnicism are “good for the Jews” when they are a minority living among Gentiles, but such concepts are “bad for the Jews” when they are the majority endeavouring to suppress and stifle the self-determination of another people, the Palestinians, whose land they have usurped through deceit, terrorism and mass murder.

    — ( )

  90. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:

    Why have no extraterrestrial beings made contact with planet Earth?
    Why no hint of radio signals despite many decades of searching?

    Surely, with the infinity of the universe, the infinity of galaxies, of planets etc, there must be *some* advanced life out there…?, or so the familiar arguments go.

    Science fiction writers and theorists have proposed a neat little solution to this cosmic conundrum. Their reasoning is that once any fledging advanced culture evolves in any particular planet, it, by necessity destroys itself by an immutable cosmic law which dictates that it must be thus – the originators of high culture, by necessity and design carry within themselves the seeds of their own anhiliation.Thus is the way of all evolutionary routes to high civilisation.

  91. JimB says:

    I agree; in the interest of military-conflict scenarios, though, I would propose the idea of China using Black proxies for a future (decades from now) “invasion” of Europe.

    Hm, once the West is defeated most Western moral codes will be swept aside, especially ones related to diet. I predict that the Chinese, and possibly Middle Easterners, will begin farming Africans as an inexpensive pork substitute. I can’t imagine Asians miscegenating or coexisting with Africans.

  92. @Pat Boyle

    “War weapons” don’t have to be high-tech.

    Mass immigration is the ultimate weapon deployed by (((White-genocide enthusiasts))), (((whose Oded Yinon wars))) add plenty of understandably pissed-off refugees to the mix.

  93. @Pat Boyle

    “somebody took one of those little tracked vehicles that are used for bomb disposal and put an AR-15 on it. ”

    Once you do that and actuate the trigger with a solenoid, simply sending a series of electrical pulses will give you a high-rate semi-automatic fire that could match the cyclic rate of the weapon.



    English Town Of Huddersfield Is Under Attack From Mass Immigration

    Huddersfield Is Under Attack From Multicultural Mayhem

    James Mason Was From Huddersfield.

    James Mason Goes Home To Huddersfield(1972):

  95. @Lot

    Don’t conflate births and population.

    Population is the present; births are the future. The Pew map is deceptive at best, propaganda at worst.

    The sickle cell test may very well overstate things a bit, but certainly the trend is correct. Also, a recent study found that ~20% of French babies had common Muslim names, i.e. throw in some uncommon names that went under the radar and you likely have ~21% to 22% of births in France being Muslim. That’s somewhat under the sickle cell numbers, but, of course, we’re only talking about Muslims. Many Africans in France aren’t Muslim.

    Let’s put non-Muslim blacks in France at 5% of births. (Probably more, but we’ll go with this.)

    So right now with no additional immigration and equal birthrates, France is destined to become ~22% Muslim and 5% non-Muslim black.

    But, of course, there is still immigration, enough to change the young population – you know, the ones who have babies – by 0.5% a year, maybe more. In addition, the birthrate differences will continue to increase the Muslim and black percent of babies by another 0.5% a year – at least – for another decade or two. If this continues for another 25 years, white births in France will fall below 50%.

    Another 25 years after that, and the under-25 population of France – you know, the ones that fight – will be 35% to 40% Muslim and 10% to 15% non-Muslim black. There is no way France remains a stable country with those numbers.

    France needs to stop all non-white immigration today. Even if they did that, birthrate differences almost guarantee a France that will someday be close to 30% Muslim and 10% non-Muslim black. I’m not sure that France can survive with even those numbers.

    Sure, in the U.S., white births are only 50%, but the other 50% are Mestizo, black and Asian. Makes for a crappy, South American-style country, but Mestizos and Asians are destroyers of civilization. Blacks and Muslims are.

    France may already be terminally ill. It just hasn’t got the diagnosis.

  96. @Hail

    See my response to Lot. Even with zero immigration, Muslims and non-Muslim blacks will likely compose ~30% and 5%-10% of French births, respectively, in another 20 years. Muslim births already account for at least 20% of French births. Best guess on non-Muslim blacks is ~5%.

    That’s today.

    Differing birthrates will push those numbers up to ~30% and 5% to 10% in a couple of decades. And that’s with zero immigration – zero!

    Throw in even low immigration, and those numbers increase to ~40% and ~10% respectively.

    Middle East and North African Muslims and sub-Saharan Africans are civilization killers. Well, they kill Western civilizations.

    I’m not sure that France can survive as a western country under the zero-immigration scenario, but I know that it won’t survive in its current form under the low immigration scenario.

    If CIA didn’t have its head up its ass, it’d be extremely worried about France’s nuclear missiles. The West got South Africa’s nukes out before the blacks took over. It should do the same with France.

    • Replies: @Doug
    , @Hail
  97. DFH says:

    That French sickle cell test birth map sometimes posted here overstates the degree of population replacement.


    • Replies: @Lot
  98. Steve,

    At what point should the United States or other countries get concerned about France’s nuclear weapons. Obviously, it’s a ways off, but it’s not inconceivable that France could someday be partially controlled by a Muslim party. France might even have a Muslim president. Would we feel comfortable with that guy having his finger on the button? Does Israel feel good about that?

    South Africa disarmed when it become clear that blacks would take over the government. Do we need to do something similar with France at some point?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @FLgeezer
    , @Corvinus
  99. @Anonymous

    Numbers, # – 125, Numbers! Those are both extremely small numbers relatively speaking. India’s 1/4 Million in a country of conservatively 1.5 Billion is 1 in 6,000 people. That’d be like America having ~ 50,000 black people all together. That’s just negligible – even if they all lived in the south side of Chicago.

    Just an in-the-head calculation using a 3% birthrate yearly (I mean 3 births per 100 people) in Nigeria in the present day, says that just as many Nigerians will be born EACH AND EVERY DAY as there are total black people in China right now! (your 20,000, that is). Amazing, right? Letting people in is absolutely no help to the originating country. Can you see that from the numbers I just gave you?

  100. @Hail

    This is theoretically calculable with age- and population projections.

    As this you demonstrate, so-called theoretical projections lead to absurd results. The most common absurdity results from projecting some trend into the future without considering externalities. An example of this might be a military planner who says that If X planes are needed to destroy Y militants and we have 100Y militants in the valley, then we need 100X planes to fly sorties.

    Such thinking might ignore the possibility that the valley is narrow and only 10X planes can fit into it, and that there are only 50X sorties possible in a single day anyway due to logistics.

    These population projections are simple minded; they do not include disease, nutrition, infant mortality, civil war or any other population limiting factor. Given the nature of the population (r type, low hanging fruit) I expect that grotesque behaviors might also come into play.

    Failure to consider externalities is one of a small number of reasons why (((their))) plan to subdue white, patriarchal culture is doomed to fail, as it always has failed throughout history. To my mind, the other two factors coming into play are a) dual nature of white, patriarchal culture and b) inevitable emergence of opportunistic behavior among sub-Saharan Africans.

    a) White patriarchal culture uses war when peace does not work. The ability to engage in future time orientation guartantees this. (((They))) are forcing upon us a situation where peace and appeasement is no longer working. The emergence of voices (and bloggers) willing to state openly that false cries of racism are nothing less than predation is a forewarning to (((them))) to cease and desist, if only (((they))) were not so irrationally convinced of (((their))) righteousness. But (((they’re))) not and the familiar outcome is probable.*

    b) Sub-Saharan Africans do not have a “give me that” off switch. If unchecked, they will consume (((their masters))), but I think they will be subjected to the consequences of future-time orientation by US.

    *I predict that future-time orientation and looming shortages of everything will convince whites to find a means to limit (((undue influence))) from now on.

  101. @Hail

    Was it “Thank God he’s dead!”
    or “ThankGod, he’s dead!” ?

    Comma are very important. Remember “Eats, shoots, and leaves.”

    That’s all I got on short notice. Reg?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  102. @bucky

    Good thing there’s no such thing as black or African Muslims……..

  103. J.Ross says: • Website


    Assault and battery aside, it is difficult to read “fifty-six-year-old punk rock frontman” without giggling.

    A Trump supporter claims he was attacked by the lead singer of a punk rock band when he jeered the frontman’s political statements.

    Cellphone video taken at the concert captures the moment the Social Distortion fan says he was beaten up by the band’s frontman, 56-year-old Mike Ness.

    Why are people giving them money and attending their concerts and movies? What model gun did the Jews hold to your head to make you participate in their pop culture process?

  104. @Lot

    “Worst movie I’ve seen in years” is one of these baffling statements one comes across sometimes about a good if not great movie. My opinion is District 9 was a visually stunning movie- aliens and all their tech is excellent, original, realistic appearance (still holds up), the setting richly rendered, well cast characters all around, thrilling action sequences, a surprisingly gripping story for the protagonist in the end…

  105. @Anon

    Organized Global Jewry is using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy European Christian nations.

  106. AndrewR says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    A Muslim-ruled France couldn’t be worse than Pakistan. And I don’t know the numbers (and France probably doesn’t even collect this data) but I imagine Muslims make up a negligible part of the French military. And the ethnic French who run the military would destroy the nukes before handing them over to the caliph. It seems likely there would be a coup against an Islamist government.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  107. Truth says:

    What you need to realize is that if you think Muslims are a problem in Europe now, Black Africans will be 10x worse. Islam, for all of its faults, at least has a moral code and an order to society. It is different from the European order, but at least it is *an* order

  108. AndrewR says:

    Not really. Mike Ness was in middle school when punk came out. Almost all of the earliest punk rockers are in their sixties if not over 70.

    As for the beaten up fan, Ness should be charged for the attack but flipping someone off for two songs certainly counts as “fighting words.” Sounds like the fan got the fight he was looking for.

  109. @BB753

    India has its cows. The West has its Negroes.

  110. Lot says:

    I think the point I quit watching the movie was the third time the disgusting looking aliens had an extended dialog in their fake language.

    It really had no redeeming feature.

  111. Lot says:

    I am on mobile, but search my comment history for a detailed explanation. Very short version: regional and temporal differences in sickle cell testing guidelines. I even linked to a long French language document on the topic.

    Population replacement is the most important issue of our age. The anti-replacement side has the facts on our side, so we should always strive to present them truthfully and carefully.

  112. wren says:

    So there are 10,000 Nigerians in China and one million Chinese in Africa?

    I know that is country to continent, but still, when it comes to China and Africa, the migration, and exploitation, is the other way around.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Ed
  113. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Make that: Mestizos and Asians aren’t destroyers of civilization.

  114. @J.Ross

    Why are people giving them money and attending their concerts and movies? What model gun did the Jews hold to your head to make you participate in their pop culture process?

    This could be said about golden-age Hollywood, the Big Band era, and just about all music from the South, (save perhaps Nashville’s, which was the last to spread.) Jews didn’t make these records, but they sold them when nobody else would.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  115. Lot says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    20% of births being Muslim seems to be where you’d expect it. Some common Muslim female names overlap with Christian names. I think Sarah is one. So the best analysis would probably only look at male baby names. I imagine oftentimes prole semi secular Muslim women give their daughters made up or rare or whimsical names too. How many baby girl Beyonces are in France?

    On the other hand, the map shows the very Islamified St Denis area only at 51%. I would expect it to be higher, but I do not know the demographics well enough to be sure. So without looking at the study itself, and the link from your link is dead, my gut says the 20% is a slight underestimate.

  116. bucky says:
    @Stan d Mute

    What is unfortunate is that the alt-lite and Trump just can’t call it as it is…because of political correctness.

    Political correctness means having to be *for* blacks. That is what Sarah Jeong was all about. She was demonstrating that in her heart she’s for black power.

    You know how Karl Rove was envisioning an enduring GOP majority with the help of Latinos and Muslims? Left out by implication is a certain troublesome population that no one can really help out.

  117. @Achmed E. Newman

    Comma are very important.

    Is that the plural of “commum”?

    Remember “Eats, shoots, and leaves.”

    That’s all I got on short notice. Reg?

    I moved to the countryside, so I’m too busy correcting apostrophes to deal with commas right now.

    A couple of guys wrote a book about driving around the US correcting punctuation and spelling on people’s signs.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  118. There’s something to be said for the theory (as may have posited on this very site) that the popularity of zombie apocalypse media has to do with the subconscious fear of being overrun by Africans.

  119. @AndrewR

    He could of used a better choice of words instead of “final solution”. Everyone knows that “final solution” was the expression for the Nazi extermination of the Jews.

    I would have said something like “democratic choice”. Let the electorate decide for themselves as the “democratic choice” for immigration policy.

  120. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT They’re going after Molyneux.
    … I can’t get his Twitter but he was appealling for fans to write YouTube, which I think is a total waste of time. People need to abandon YouTube and go to BitChute. Stop expecting the Communist Party to respect your rights.

  121. wren says:

    I once stumbled on some interesting discussions on this board:

    Mostly complaints about the Igbo, iirc.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  122. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Perhaps I should’ve said more clearly: punk rock is the musical equivalent of a big motorcycle, especially when played and heard by middle-aged men. A room full of losers who just saw Fight Club for the first time and think it would be a good idea in real life. Stay away or blend in.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  123. Doug says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    > Middle East and North African Muslims and sub-Saharan Africans are civilization killers. Well, they kill Western civilizations.

    Is that necessarily the case? We already have countries and regions with huge ghetto underclasses. And they pretty much keep functioning. In a million different ways, life sucks just a little bit more, especially for the middle class. But economic activity pretty much just routes around the blight.

    Washington DC, despite at least half of it being a burnt out war zone, has one of the highest per capita income of any county in the US. As does Alameda (Oakland), Baltimore, Hartford, and Essex (Newark). Some, even most, of the wealthiest and most productive census tracts in the US are no more than a 30 minute drive to the most dangerous ones. Even in South Africa, the white sub-population maintains one of the highest rates of economic productivity in the world.

    Post-industrial Western civilization actually seems extremely resilient to the lumpenproletariat masses. This is largely an artifact of economic production and technological innovation being mostly done by a small sliver of the population. The vast majority of the workforce is engaged in bullshit jobs, rent seeking and window dressing. Hence why East Asia still lags behind the West economically despite having no ghettos or unproductive underclass.

    It can certainly handle a 30% ghetto population without serious economic stress. Most likely well above 50%. South Africa suggests that even 95% is feasible. Again, I’m not saying this is desirable or that it doesn’t make life a lot worse in ways that aren’t captured by GDP. Low-intensity crime and terrorism don’t just ruin the lives of their victims. They require enormous inconveniences from everyone: can’t walk alone at night, have to always remember to put your alarm on, giant no-go zones, metal detectors everywhere.

    Median living standards get depressed as huge swathes of wealth are sucked out by the landowners in the few livable zip codes. Infrastructure decays and corruption festers, as the ruling political coalitions need to keep paying off the “big men” that run the ghetto vote machines. Then there’s the thought police required to keep race war from breaking out. But none of this is an existential threat to civilization. The economic engines of capitalism will just keep chugging along, while managed technocratic democracy maintains a mediocre uneasy status quo.

  124. @J.Ross

    This is a shame. Social D have some good tunes and are very tight live.

    Hell, I would have thought a guy like Mike Ness would be a MAGA supporter.

  125. @J.Ross

    I wasn’t contesting your point, more like elaborating it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  126. Daniel H says:
    @Hannah Katz

    >>Also, if Nigerians outnumber everyone else, how will Nigerians make a living by fraud any more?

    Old Jewish joke: Why did God invent the goyim? Somebody has to buy retail.

  127. martin2 says:

    “I think that it’s time to start thinking about a way to move all the great art from European museums and all the old books and so on, to Japan for storage during the coming Dark Age. ”

    That is precisely what I wrote on an Internet forum nearly twenty years ago!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Romanian
  128. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:

    Sweden is going to get really crowded.

  129. Silence, impudent white man! Resources are infinite when the powers of the coloured man are unleashed!

  130. wren says:

    Technology is progressing such that this situation is increasingly feasible.

    Surveillance and robots will make a lot possible.

    For better or for worse.

  131. @Doug

    South Africa probably won’t last 15 years. Maybe not even five, if land expropriation go through. Why would anyone be productive if his capital can be robbed from him? That’s no longer low-intensity crime.

  132. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    What a schizo world we live in.

    Many yuppies in big cities would like to move much of their black underclass populations to other parts of the nation. (Trail of Fears.) So, it implies blacks mean trouble. But, we are told the West must take in all these Africans, millions and millions of them.
    White Libs in cities have a hard time dealing with the Negroes they already have, but they think the West needs MORE of them from Africa?

    When Red Guards got too unruly and crazy, Mao had an idea of sending them down to the country side. The sent-down youth. So, what are black Africans moving to Europe? Sent-up youth?

    None of this makes sense. NY and Chicago want their Negroes to be sent-down blacks.. but apparently the West should import millions more from Africa. Maybe the idea is that Immigrant Blacks will act better because being an ‘immigrant’ makes people holy and dreamy. And that ‘immigrant’ dream of African blacks will rub off on American blacks.

    I wonder if that will happen. The Africanization of the black community in America. In academia, media, entertainment, and etc., Africans, as Slave-selling blacks(spear-chuckers), take the commanding heights of power and tell Slave-sold Blacks(cotton pickers) what to do.

  133. @Lot

    I agree that ~20%, maybe ~22%, is probably in the ballpark of the Muslim % of French births. I really have no idea of non-Muslim blacks birth, so that 5% is truly a guess, but I can’t imagine that it’s much lower.

    But as I noted, my concern is that this figure is almost guaranteed to increase to at least 25% to 30% for Muslims due to higher birthrates. Even if those Muslim and non-Muslim birthrates converge in the coming decades, you’d get to those numbers. The non-Muslim black number also would increase somewhat.

    And that’s without immigration.

    In a couple of decades, France’s under-40 population will – I repeat, will – be a minimum of 25% Muslim and 5% to 7% non-Muslim African. The major cities will have much higher figures. That’s baked into the pie. Those numbers could easily be 35% and 8% respectively if there’s a small amount of immigration.

    Are there examples of countries with Middle East and North African Muslim populations of that size that function? It didn’t work out so well for Lebanon. What’s the point of no return for Muslim population percentages in a country? 25%, 40%, 50%?

    I don’t know, but I suspect that we’re going to find out.

  134. AndrewR says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Not everyone is a German history scholar. Given the context, it was completely clear what he meant. No one is criticizing him about this in good faith.

  135. 74%, ok. But does it say which country? If 74% of Nigerians think Nigeria is so bad they’d be happy to move to any other country — e.g. Ghana, Ivory Coast, who knows — that would take them, then probably 99.9% of them would be happy to move to England.

  136. At least for some years Pew or Gallup surveys have shown similar results. In the same time the Europe establishment, administrations and probably also the majority of people are pro open borders for Subsaharan Africans. Also hundred of thousands of Subsaharan Africans have successfully entered Europe by by ship. So they have shown that it is possible to do so, while there is of course the horrific risk of drowning, the risk is not very high.
    So why have not hundred of millions of Subsaharan Africans not already immigrated? Because for most the risk is still too high? Because the surveys give a false impression?

  137. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Organisms are invasive, especially if hungry. It will devour anything that won’t defend itself.
    White whale has been stung with the paralyzing toxins of Diversity and Inclusion.

  138. e says:

    Could just as easily be a Steve poster as President of the United States.
    Donald J. Trump
    Verified account

    Give the public a break – The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!

    6:15 AM – 20 Feb 2017

  139. @J.Ross

    Is sounds like a stage dive gone horribly wrong.

    These punk rockers are staying in shape at least. The guy who flipped off Mike Ness for 2 songs was a farmer from Galt. How cool is that? However, he should have realized that he was at a disadvantage with the singer having the proverbial high ground. Then, other fans held him back, and let the singer beat him up some. That was not very sportsmanlike at all there. If I were this farmer, rather than try to sue, I’d catch another show with some friends … big friends.

    Why are people giving them money and attending their concerts and movies? What model gun did the Jews hold to your head to make you participate in their pop culture process?

    AGREED, big time.

  140. Pew: “About Half or More in Several Sub-Saharan African Countries Would Move to Another Country”

    And that’s just the half literate enough to read the survey.

  141. @Hail

    France and Germany will be Islamic States in 30 years. Already 20% of the youth in France and Germany are Muslims and the Muslim fertility rate is 3.6 verse 1.5 for the aboriginal Europeans. The average age of European Muslims is 29 while the average Christian is 47 years-old. When these nations become Islamic States in 2050 they will ban migration from Africa, Muslims States do not accept refugees.

  142. @Reg Cæsar

    I filled up a vehicle with gas at a WaWa station in Florida one time. The 10″ or so LCD screen had a typo in the simple instructions or ad. I wish I could remember it, I didn’t take a picture, and I can’t find it on the web. How many times did people pumping gas see this one in the days/weeks/months before some literate executive of the company actually caught it and took care of it? EVERY SINGLE TIME anyone pumped gas, this same error would be on the pump!

    I figured many million of views in my estimate (pretty hard to know how long the error sat there). Just hire an English major for the price of a dinner of ramen noodles and let him proofread, WaWa guys.

    Oh, uhhh, yeah, I left out an “s”. I don’t have millions of people reading though, and more importantly, I don’t get paid for this.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  143. @Hail

    Repeating AndrewR’s point, but this isn’t a question of capability but will.

    The Italian navy–as presently consituted–could easily see off the African threat by itself.

    There’s never been as great a mismatch between the capabilities of the invader and their prospective invadee as in this case. The only reason the invasion continues–the 5th columnist within aligned with the invaders against the people and nations of Europe.

  144. @Abelard Lindsey

    “Could have”, not “could of” – Sorry, Mr. Lindsey, Reg Caesar above got me going. Your 2nd link didn’t work, but if I have straight what YOU wrote, this politician did not use “final solution” as a term for treatment of immigrants. He used it as a term meaning the treatment of Australians by the bastards behind the immigration policy, am I right? If so, people have a lot of gall to criticize him on his wording. Are we at Peak Stupidity yet?

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  145. songbird says:

    Detroit is Port-au-Prince with some legacy infrastructure, white suburbs, and some level of state and federal subsidization. Meanwhile, DC is basically Detroit if it controlled the federal purse strings. If the government were moved, it would start to collapse overnight and fully converge with Detroit in less than 30 years.

    Rhodesia has already demonstrated that 95% is not possible – not in the long term.

  146. @Hail

    That chart may help explain why Iberians and the Irish are less anti-Muslim than Italy or Britain. 10% seems to be the tipping point for white enthno-nat backlash, and they simply haven’t reached that point. Of course, it helps that neither country offers great social welfare benefits, so I imagine the immigrants who do settle there tend to be different than your average benefit seeker.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  147. @Achmed E. Newman

    I agree with this politician that the citizens of Australia should be able to settle the immigration issue once and for all by plebiscit. I know what he meant by the term “final solution” and I understand full well that he did not use the term “final solution” to describe how immigrants should be treated. My point is that the expression “final solution” is such a loaded one that it probably should not be used by politicians at all, especially in a debate about immigrants. In any case, politicians in Western countries are usually lawyers who, by expectation, should be good with words.

    One more thing. I agree with you guys that if the Australian citizens are not allowed to vote (I assume that Australia has a plebiscite system much like California’s referendum process) on immigration issues, that Australia can no longer be considered a “democracy”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  148. @Calvin X Hobbes

    My initial reading of this was that someone was thanking God that a guy named Okoro had been shot dead, and I was looking forward to the explanation of why this Okoro was such an evil badass.

    Not to mention why he had to be tracked across Hamburg, western Florida, and Johannesburg and shot in all three locations before he finally expired. Sounds like a James Bond movie.

    • LOL: Hail
  149. @wren

    Igbos are a market dominant minority hence the complaints.

    • Replies: @wren
  150. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Rich people complaining about not enough coolies to clean the Augean Stables

    Trainer Rick Violette, participating in a law conference panel Aug. 7 in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., said immigration policies put in place by President Trump are leading to labor shortages on the backstretch.
    Violette was one of the panelists discussing immigration worker issues Tuesday at the 18th Saratoga Institute on Equine, Racing, and Gaming Law Conference in Saratoga Springs, N.Y. The conference is presented by the Government Law Center at Albany Law School.

    “This administration has built in obstacles to hiring seasonal workers,” Violette said. “They eliminated the return exemption, they diminished availability—the insult of offering only an additional 15,000 visas when 63,000 were available—they’re trying to make it as difficult and as economically unreasonable as possible to hire legal employees. It’s a disaster out there.”

    If you can afford racehorses, you can afford to pay the people cleaning up their shit a middle class wage. If you balk at that, I’m sure you can keep your horses in the homelands of the Third World labor you love to exploit so much.

  151. Take the dross, leave me the patriotic 25%

    More seriously there is a certain conceit in believing everyone wants to move to your countries. The reality is most of the migration occurs within the continent. There are more Nigerians in Cameroun than in the USA. But hey don’t let facts interfere in your massive jerkoff.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Crew Cut Man
  152. @Abelard Lindsey

    He could of used a better choice of words…

    So could you. Have, that is.

  153. @Achmed E. Newman

    a WaWa station in Florida

    WaWa makes Piggly Wiggly and Hinky Dinky sound almost dignified in comparison.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  154. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seth Largo

    The Spanish are unhappy with their latest Muslim immigrants – refugee Syrians – because they keep trying to leave the country.

  155. @kissinger

    Welcome to the black planet!


    If we didn’t have to humor nasty Uncle Glosser we’d be looking at a *very nice* planet. Birth rates are down. About 3/4 of the land area of world has sub or near replacement fertility amongst the natives, and with just a few exceptions the rest outside of Africa is heading into balance.

    Populations all over the world are or soon would be stabilizing and everything–crowding, environmental stress, job security, housing costs, traffic congestion, pollution–would be getting dramatically better and we’d be poised to enter a golden age … except for … mass immigration.

    Instead we have to listen to nasty whiny little jerks like Glosser with the megaphone and face a crowded, ugly, stupid, divisive dystopia. A black future indeed.

  156. Mr. Anon says:

    I haven’t read any of the Game of Thrones books, or seen any of the TV shows. They all seem too sick and depressing (from what I have heard). Why bother with a fantasy world that merely apes the worst aspects of the real world – the violence, cynicism, and perversion that realy history is already replete with. I haven’t seen any of The Walking Dead either.

    But perhaps they truly are in accord with the spirit of the age. All those people plotting, conniving, murdering, scheming, jockeying, just to climb the greasy pole – when their whole world will eventually be swept away by The Others, or the zombies. Maybe this is what the WMIG portends for european civilization. And contemporary events are just a bar-fight in a burning building.

  157. anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:

    There are 40,000 Chinese in Nigeria. I’ve never seen any figures for the number of Africans in China but 50,000 to 100,000 is a reasonable guess.

    The number of Chinese people in Africa is under 1 million and dropping (due to the tandem factors of China getting richer and several key African countries no longer enjoying as much oil revenue as before). Still it means Chinese people in Africa outnumber African people in China by something like 10 times. I wouldn’t call it exploitation. Chinese people in Africa are doing useful projects like constructing roads.

    • Replies: @wren
  158. Ed says:

    Very few Africans can afford to travel to China and it’s China doesn’t really need stoop or foreign servant labor like the wealthy Gulf states. The only jobs available to Africans are petty trading, drug dealing or schooling.

  159. J1234 says:

    Africa…what a piss poor, shitty continent (or incontinent.)

  160. @Hannah Katz

    Where are the environmentalists? While everyone else is breeding responsibly, the Sub-Saharan Africans (no idle prefix there) are reproducing at an irresponsible level with negative impact on the environment.

    Where are the environmentalists? One of them is right here typing this comment, and like every other environmentalist and progressive I’m opposing immigration.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  161. Hail says: • Website

    I would like to know the mechanics behind their 18% estimate for France in 2050. Maybe they have a weight for ‘political resistance to multiculturalism’ and assumed, given high National Front vote totals, that immigration would be reduced. Maybe such an assumption is way overthinking things.

    It’s not a projected convergence of birth rates between Muslims and Christians, though:

  162. Hail says: • Website
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Take the dross, leave me the patriotic 25%

    I would like to ask you in good faith, given your handle, whether you are a true Nigerian (state-)nationalist and not in any way an ethnic nationalist on behalf of the groups within Nigeria. State-patriotism vs. Ethnopatriotism.

    Nigeria seems as ethnically divided as Bosnia, and it is rare to find a true Bosnian patriot who is not actually a Serb-, Croat-, or Muslim-patriot.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  163. @martin2

    “I think that it’s time to start thinking about a way to move all the great art from European museums and all the old books and so on, to Japan for storage during the coming Dark Age. ”

    That is precisely what I wrote on an Internet forum nearly twenty years ago!

    Japan is humid and suffers earthquakes and tsunamis. Hell, tsunami is even a Japanese word.

    It’s a good idea if you go by human nature, but there’s also nature nature to think about.

    On the other hand, Jesus did go to Japan and live to 106:

    The Little-Known Legend of Jesus in Japan

    Tomb of Jesus Christ

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  164. @Reg Cæsar

    Christ’s Tomb will even sell you garlic ice cream, to keep the Count at bay:

    Jesus Christ was their ancestor, they keep His grave in Japan!

    • Replies: @Romanian
  165. Hail says: • Website

    Just how many tanks, planes, heavy artillery guns do they have?

    According to Global Firepower,

    Nigerian Air Forces
    - 30 total fixed-wing military aircraft, excluding trainers (47) and transports (52).
    — 9 fighter aircraft
    — 21 attack aircraft
    - 42 helicopters, of which 11 are attack helicopters.

    (Note that Italy’s modest air force has 90 fighter aircraft and 186 attack aircraft. The USA has several thousand each.)

    Nigerian Land Forces
    - 148 combat tanks
    - 1,420 armored fighting vehicles
    - 339 towed artillery
    - 25 self-propelled artillery
    - 30 rocket projectors

    Nigerian Naval Forces
    - 4 frigates
    - 93 patrol craft

    Global Firepower’s “PwrIndx” ranking for 2018 puts Nigeria at approximately equal military effectiveness/strength as the following:

    1. United States

    40. Romania
    41. Belarus
    42. Peru
    43. Nigeria
    44. Malaysia
    45. Colombia
    46. Venezuela

    136. Bhutan

    Note that Nigeria’s three neighbors, Cameroon (pop.: 25m), Benin (pop.: 11.5m), and Niger (pop.: 22.5m of which only 30% are literate) are hopelessly outgunned even by Nigeria’s modest force. Nigeria’s military advantage over these three is even more lopsided than the population difference (37:10 Nigeria:ThreeNeighbors) suggests. Nigeria’s strength may easily be over 10-to-1 vs. all three bordering countries’ military strengths combined:


    - active personnel: 15,000 [near equal to Boko Haram's active strength],
    - fighter or attack aircraft: zero
    - combat tanks and artillery: zero
    - armored fighting vehicles: 100
    - naval frigates: zero; patrol craft: 9

    Benin (not listed by Global Firepower; data from Wiki)
    - active personnel: 4,750
    - fighter or attack aircraft: zero
    - combat tanks and artillery: zero(?)
    - armored fighting vehicles: zero(?)
    - naval frigates: zero; patrol craft: 2, acquired used from China

    - active personnel: 5,500 [significantly smaller than Boko Haram's estimated strength]
    - fighter or attack aircraft: 2
    - combat tanks and artillery: zero
    - armored fighting vehicles: 157
    - navy: (n/a)

    • Replies: @BB753
  166. wren says:

    I would guess that many Chinese people in Africa are constructing roads to mines to extract resources to send to China to pay for loans.

    I don’t know the extent of it though.

    A week ago or so, some guy said:

    The reason Chinese corporations are in Africa is simple; to exploit the people and take their resources. It’s the same thing European colonists did during mercantile times, except worse. The Chinese corporations are trying to turn Africa into another Chinese continent. They are squeezing Africa for everything it is worth.

    This is the view several African politicians have. The Zambian politician Michael Sata was one of them. At least he was before being elected President of Zambia in 2011. He wrote a paper presented to Harvard University in 2007 that said “European colonial exploitation in comparison to Chinese exploitation appears benign, because even though the commercial exploitation was just as bad, the colonial agents also invested in social and economic infrastructure services Chinese investment, on the other hand, is focused on taking out of Africa as much as can be taken out, without any regard to the welfare of the local people.” (quoted in Scott D. Taylor’s “The Nature of Chinese Capital in Africa, Current History, May 2018, p. 197)

  167. Anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:

    Rather ironic coming from Jeffrey Sachs.

    The man who urged in the foolish Yeltsin government to hand over the productive assets of Russia to a handful of oligarchs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  168. @Cagey Beast

    It’s nice to see other parts of European Christendom getting on with living. The Anglospherical liberal order may be collapsing in on itself but other people are doing their own thing.

    She’s a 50-something woman with a dried up womb who has had no kids.

    I like her plain speaking on refugees, Merkel’s recklessness, etc. But if the West behaves personally like this woman it is dead right now–don’t even have to wait 50 years.

    She’s actually a poster for the plain fact that having women concentrate on “career”–much less have them as political leaders–is a death knell for a civilization.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  169. @Hail

    I don’t know a lot about Bosnia but I am a Nigerian patriot for the same reason as Yugoslav patriots–A hardheaded realisation that dismembered into ethicities we are nothing.

    A future Biafra for example assuming it doesn’t fall into immediate anarchy can at best, if governed at a 110 % hope to be less than Singapore. Nigeria governed at 50% is trillion dollar econnomy and a regional hegemon. It baffles me that people throw away that possibility for the temporary yet culturally disparate lifestyle of the diaspora or worse the romance of serparatism.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Logan
  170. Wilkey says:

    Interesting that 51% of South Africans would want to leave. Isn’t is suppose to be a paradise of racial kumbaya and a light to all nations?

    I suspect that if there’s ever an oh shit moment on the Left, it will be the failure of South Africa as it rapidly turns into a disaster of Zimbabwe-esque proportions. I’m sure the media will did everything it can to ignore it, but it will still attract attention aplenty. South African whites were screwed over the the Western elite.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  171. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The reason that Japan and So. Korea are not disturbed at the prospect of a pan-African racial tsunami (which is now transforming the white world) is because Japan and So. Korea are free to take whatever steps necessary to repel any third world invasion.

    This is not true however in much of Europe and America, where whites are forever under the cloud of being condemned as ‘racist’ if they attempt to take genuine steps to stop illegal immigration and to deport illegal immigrants.

    It’s worth remembering that the civilized and homogeneous societies of Japan and So. Korea do not have an activist Jewish lobby inside their borders. These relatively serene Asian societies have no operatives inside their borders working for the SPLC or ADL or ACLU or Hillel or FDD or AIPAC or CFL or Brookings or AEI. The absence of these NGOs makes a world of difference. In fact, it makes a UNIVERSE of difference.

    In addition, the US and Europe are under the thrall of (((hostile elites))) who dominate much of US and European mass media as well as a good deal of the political process. Further, there are numerous, separatist liberal ideologies (Deconstructionism, ‘gay studies’, Black Studies’, Jewish Studies, Holocaust studies, etc) that have penetrated and contaminated much of Western education.

    Then there’s the problem of our globo-liberal and neocon news elites, assorted virtue-signaling malcontents who dominate the West’s avant garde, along with a semi-unified spectrum of resentful minorities (blacks, homosexuals, Jews of course, Hispanics, and assorted POC) to round things out.

    The West has become, ironically, a burgeoning cauldron of anti-white hostility.

    Many hostile elites within the West (as well as their base) are willing to do virtually anything to stamp out white ‘dominance’ inside America and white cohesion wherever it exists.

    The easiest way to accomplish this goal is to 1) keep the borders of Europe and America open to non-whites and non-Christian ‘refugees’, and to 2) smear all whites who want to preserve Western civilization as racist. This political black magic is working.

  172. anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Highways in Africa are built by a national highway agency to serve large areas. A mining company might have access roads to a mine but hard to imagine an entire highway built for a mine. A lot of these criticisms of China in Africa are just commercially illiterate kinds of leftist nonsense (eg finding environmental issues with projects when environmental disturbance is a precondition of any mining project or 100km of highway).

  173. @Dante

    the Democrats becoming an explicit non White party

    Correction: ANTI-White Party

  174. LondonBob says:

    Bill has publicly voiced his concerns about African immigration to Europe, I doubt George will. Bernard at MSF seems to get overlooked, but MSF have been very prominent in promoting the war in Syria and ferrying Africans across the Med.

  175. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:


    As long as the left -and whites- exist, the left will pile the blame of every single black/brown failure on whites. No matter what the evidence says.
    The left will still be shrieking ‘Apartheid!’ and ‘Colonialism!’ 100 years from now.

  176. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:

    I hold no brief for Jeff Bezos, but in all fairness, he *earned* his fortune.

    Bezos started off Amazon way back in the day when the internet was a novelty and initially dealt in that most fogeyish/nerdy/esoteric merchandise – secondhand books. Who would have thought at that time that such a niche player in such a new medium would have amassed such a fortune? Which venture capitalists put their money behind him rather than showing him the door?

    Quite unlike Jeffrey Sachs gangster/oligarch chums who more or less looted a nation with the encouragement of a f*ckheaded economist who worked the tyrant of the day like a marionette.

  177. @Nigerian Nationalist

    More seriously there is a certain conceit in believing everyone wants to move to your countries.

    We would give anything, ANYTHING for it not to be true. But actually, and sadly, our overseers mainly permit immigration from shithole countries like yours.

  178. TTSSYF says:

    But wouldn’t two Muslim-ruled countries with nukes be worse for the world than just one?

    • Replies: @BB753
  179. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hannah Katz

    Where are the environmentalists? While everyone else is breeding responsibly, the Sub-Saharan Africans (no idle prefix there) are reproducing at an irresponsible level with negative impact on the environment.

    The Sierra Club was coopted by a multi-million dollar bribe proffered by millionaire donor David Gelbaum into MUZZLING all concern about flooding the U.S. with Third Worlders with a track record of rapacious, casual environmental destruction.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  180. notanon says:

    the genocidal civil war that has been planned for the West for the last 60 years or so will mostly involve machetes

  181. notanon says:

    attempts to downplay the scale and imminence of the problem always leave out two key facts:

    1) the age distribution of immigrants – mostly 18-30 – compared to the age distribution of the native population i.e. immigrants are a much higher percentage of the fertile population than the total population (there are also far more young males so the disproportion there is even higher)

    2) the concentration in the big cities – long before they are the majority of fighting age men in the country as a whole they will be a clear majority in the big cities – open civil war will start at that point.

    (the ritual car burnings in France are the precursor to this – testing their strength each year until eventually they are strong enough to over run the police.)

  182. Hail says: • Website

    [Islam] is different from the European order, but at least it is *an* order.

    Black Africans have no such thing.

    I understand what you say but I see two primary problems:

    (1) Why would a competing order — with ambitions to replace White-European culture with the Islamic Crescent thereby creating a future Turkey-like, semi-secular, semi-modern, semi-islamicized Europe with gradual at-least-nominal Islamicization of the non-Muslims — be preferable to disorganized Black criminality? The latter carries no civilizational change agenda. Black criminality may be destructive, but Blacks can be pushed back while “Islam is forever,” so to speak.

    Islam is a retrograde force wherever it goes, (almost) always and (almost) everywhere creating backwardness. I wonder how many notches on the civilization-ladder poor Albania lost due to its Islamicization some centuries ago. Albania is, AFAIK, the very worst country in Europe on many measures. A real shame.

    (2) If ‘Islam’ is preferable to ‘Blacks’ in abstract, why do Black Muslims seem to always be worse than Black non-Muslims? Higher TFR, more aggressive, and much more organized-militant.

    • Replies: @Bucky
  183. Hail says: • Website
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I’m not sure that France can survive as a western country [....] If CIA didn’t have its head up its ass, it’d be extremely worried about France’s nuclear missiles

    In principle, as long as the military stays in White, culturally-Christian, reasonably rightist hands, there is nothing to worry about — in principle — even if/when(God forbid) France tips majority Black+Muslim later this century.

    Eventually the Black+Muslim numbers may win out, but the army as an institution can delay its own Third Worldization for decades, and even regularly stage coups d’etat to put a lid on Africanization and political-Islam (cf: Turkish history in 20th century).

    So the question is, how White, culturally-Christian, and rightist is the French military in the 2010s, and what is the outlook for the 2020s and beyond (mid-century)? I have no idea, really. A quick googling came up with this from 2006 in Brussels Journal:

    Last year [i.e., 2005], I read somewhere that 15% of the French army consists of Muslim soldiers [...] In September 2005, the Institut français des relations internationales (French Institute for International Relations, IFRI) published a report stating that 10 to 20% of the army is of immigrant origin, most of them North African. “Their loyalty is continuously questioned,” Christophe Bertossi of IFRI said.

    Anyone have data on Blacks+Muslims in the French Army?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Romanian
  184. notanon says:

    So the question is, how White, culturally-Christian, and rightist is the French military in the 2010s, and what is the outlook for the 2020s and beyond

    all the pro-EU governments have been salami-slicing their national military in preparation for replacing them with an EU military which will be self-consciously inclusive – so when SHTF Europe will either have tiny, underfunded national militaries or a large EU military full of jihadists.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Romanian
  185. RudyM says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    @Massimo Heitor So to attempt to save Africans from themselves, we should be willing to throw our societies into chaos and turn our political institutions upside down?

    Also, your list of reasons to oppose immigration is much too short. Politics aside, there is the issue of cultural replacement. And then there are the reasons that it’s risky to talk about in public.

  186. JMcG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s named after the place in Pennsylvania where the company started. It supposedly means “Wild goose” in the local Indian dialect. The next convenience store chain will probably be called Krishna in what’s fast becoming the local Indian dialect.

  187. @Hail

    My guess is that they’re low balling current Muslim birthrates in France. My best guess is ~20% to 22% with Muslim % of total population at ~10%. Maybe Pew puts births at ~15%. I know that Pew has Muslims at 8.8% of total population.

    Pew is trying to make people feel safer about the Muslim problem by giving Muslim percent of total population (the past) instead of percent of births or percent of the under-30 population (the future). Pew is disingenuous. They know the score.

    It’ll take a awhile for the demographic changes occuring among the young, child-bearing population to filter through the entire population, but it WILL happen. So, yeah, by 2050, France’s total population will still be heavily white. I doubt that the Muslim population will only be 18% of the total, but it probably won’t be too far off that, maybe 20% or so. But the under-30 population, will be much higher – probably around 30%, maybe higher. And Muslim birth percentage will be higher than that.

    Pew is lying. France is in trouble. This will not end well.

    With zero immigration, France will someday be ~25% to 30% Muslim and 5% to 8% non-Muslim black due to differing birthrates even if those birthrates converage over the next couple of decades. The major cities will have much higher rates. This will happen.

    With current levels of immigration for another decade or two and then cut off, France will be 30% to 40% Muslim and 10% non-Muslim African someday. This easily could happen; indeed, it’s the expected course at the moment.

    What kind of country that creates, I dont know. But I suspect that it will not be a great place for the ethnic French, unless they grow some balls and fight back. However, if that happens, you could create a civil war.

    We’ve just begun this story. We’re only at the set up of the action. The next century will be the middle of the noval. Either we’ll see the white peoples of Europe (French, German, English) degredataed and slowly mixed out of existence in their own lands or the rise of European ethnic nationalist movement and some level of violence.

    I just don’t see Europe turning into a sort of Brazil in the way the U.S. seems to be heading. Middle East and North African Muslims just don’t play well with others. They won’t just blend in and be one group among many sharing power. It’s their way or the highway. And they’ll push until the Europeans push back.

    Now, if a country keeps their numbers down to 10% or even 20% of the population, the Muslims won’t have the numbers to push too hard. (Sure, they’ll have the occasional terrorist attack, but not much more.) But when Muslims get to 25% of more of the population and are 50% of the population in major cities, that’s when they’ll have the numbers to demand serious changes.

    But maybe I’m wrong about all of this. Maybe the future is a happy melting pot of tolerant folks enjoying their cultural and ethnic differences.

  188. Q says:

    Good news! The President of Wakanda has just announced they will begin accepting immigrants from all over Africa and those of African origin who are most oppressed in the U.S., incl. those from Oakland(CA), St. Louis, Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, New Orleans and the Bronx.

    Also the movie Crazy Rich Africans will be in theaters next month.

    Black Powwah!

  189. Brutusale says:
    @Pat Boyle

    Tracked vehicle?! Death from above!

  190. @Abelard Lindsey

    Mr. Lindsey, I was asking you, because I didn’t see his quote directly anywhere. Your link didn’t work before. Now, I see what he was saying, and I don’t care if he HAS heard of its use by Nazi’s 75 years ago, as I just today wrote in Even Down-Under – you can’t say anything., the damn term is NOT trademarked! There is no reason the guy shouldn’t use a perfectly normal English expression.

    They will never let you all vote on this. You (not you personally, Abelard) should never have given up your guns. They will push it until a vote wouldn’t even make a difference anymore.

    Anyway, we are in general agreement, sir. Thanks for the reply.

  191. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    like every other environmentalist and progressive I’m opposing immigration.

    So only every other environmentalist opposes immigration, the other 50% think it’s A-OK.

    Ever look at what over-population did to Africa?

  192. res says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Thank you for giving a real (and interesting) answer to that question.

  193. FLgeezer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    >Would we feel comfortable with that guy having his finger on the button? Does Israel feel good about that?

    Of course not. And don’t be surprised to see the Izzies attack France soon. Think of it as an opportunity for the Izzies to expand Eretz Israel beyond imagining.

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  194. Logan says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Sorry, but I don’t get it. A native Singapore may be a citizen of a small country, but he’s among the wealthiest in the world. As a citizen of India, he’d be part of a large country, but much less well off.

    I fail to see the advantage of bigness in a country, in and of itself. At least in a world where the US and others won’t let Malaysia or Indonesia invade and conquer Singapore.

  195. Ibound1 says:

    The Singaporeans have an exceptionally fine military, built on the Israeli model, and equipped with the best weapons they can afford. Their Air Force, Army and Navy are high tech and their officers and soldiers are high IQ Chinese. A war between Singapore and Malaysia would have Singapore 100 miles up the Malay peninsula in a week. Just in time for the UN ceasefire. Malaysia which has irredentist claims against Singapore, could not stand against them.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @LondonBob
  196. @FLgeezer

    Skepticism is a luxury we can no longer afford in these fraught times.

  197. songbird says:

    I don’t know if there is a practical city-state model. Cities are population sinks.

    Singapore has an extremely low TFR. It relies on Chinese immigration to be functional. And there are currently still a lot of Chinese. Though they have a low TFR as well, I expect it will stabilize.

  198. @Anonymous

    I’m a tree-hugger who’s opposed the alien invasion in countless local public venues for decades.

    Here in eco-groovy Santa Cruz (California) the City Council, mayor included, is on a first-name basis with me, and not for chummy reasons.

    These are the same (((types))) who blather on about reducing our carbon footprint — while inviting 7,300,000,000+ people to move to, and be pampered by, the most notorious carbon emitter on Earth.

    Now that I know (((who))) is behind ecologically-catastrophic immigration-fueled population growth (aka White genocide and treason), I rub the Jew taboo right in their faces, in the Council chambers, on Community TV (most recently two nights ago). The poster-board sign I bring with me reads (on one side):

    DID 9-11!

    The other side reads:


    It drives them apoplectic!

  199. Bucky says:

    Black Muslims are converts. They often are not really converting to Islam out of genuine conviction, but more to break with the Christian slave past that they perceive. The conversion is not really a spiritual thing but a political thing on their part. It is their expression first and foremost of black nationalism.

    Disorganized black criminality gradually poisons the culture and society. You get rap music. You get illegitimate children and sexual objectification of women. You get a general sense of nihilism out of blacks which is appealing to whites because it is freedom from responsibility. It is permission to be cruel. It is how cultures degenerate.

    Muslims are a competing order, but I wouldn’t say that they are backwards. With Muslims I generally have the good sense that they are competent at their job and at basic tenets of citizenship. They generally have very low crime rates at least in the States. A few do go extreme and commit terrorist attacks, which is unfortunate. But overall the terrorist attack problem is 1) still much less than the black criminality problem and 2) can be *solved* in a relatively straight-forward manner.

    What it comes down to for me is that I could easily live under a Muslim regime. But the black-run areas of the country are completely incompetent and are miserable places to be. Also personal interactions Muslims are much more pleasant to be around.

    As for Albania, being a historical borderland is never fun. But IMO the Christian-Islam rivalry is akin to the Britain-France rivalry. Past history.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Hail
  200. BB753 says:

    Benin sounds like a real cakewalk.

    • Replies: @Hail
  201. BB753 says:

    “What it comes down to for me is that I could easily live under a Muslim regime”

    What are you waiting for? Dubai, Bahrain are hiring Westerners. Go live the easy life of being a non-believer in a Muslim country. It’s loads of fun, I’m told.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  202. BB753 says:

    Make it three if you assume Iran has nukes or is on the verge of obtaining them.

  203. Wazoo says:

    When the rains stop due to climate change, hundreds of millions of starving Africans will head toward Europe. I doubt Europe will be able to turn them away.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  204. When the rains stop due to climate change, ….

    “The wild dogs cry out in the night
    as they grow restless longing for some solitary company.
    I know that I must do what’s right
    as sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti.”

    I bless the rains down in Africa ….

    Wazoo, the planet will be fine; it’s the people that are fucked!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  205. @Achmed E. Newman

    I played baseball when I was a kid at the park with the younger Porcaro brothers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  206. Hail says: • Website

    Benin sounds like a real cakewalk.

    Since Benin’s forces, as depicted above, do not hold a candle to Nigeria’s, this raises the question of what is stopping Nigeria from expanding, annexing Benin (an obvious reason is that Benin is francophone), perhaps a drive towards a West African Union under its leadership?

    As a thought experiment, say a Nigerian president (who will need to have a stronger-seeming name than the hapless-sounding ex-president GoodLuck Jonathan or the murder victim ThankGod Okoro) comes in with this West African Union (Greater Nigeria) ambition in hand.

    What stops him?

    [1] France- or U.S.-led intervention possibility; at least economic-, probably indirect military-, possibly direct military-intervention.

    [2] Weakness of domestic support for the vision of a West African Union — i.e., no Grossdeutschland kind of mission-impulse in Nigerian minds; rather, the opposite: ethnic, regional, and religious division as much more salient (why would the already mutually suspicious subgroups of Nigeria want to create a francophone Nigerian ‘Quebec’?) — in this context implying a coup against President InvadeBenin Jonathan Okoro.

    [3] Possibility of a wider coalition of African states (African Union) align against Nigeria and create a quagmire.

    [4] Small size of forces fielded by Nigeria create possibility of an essentially nationwide gang warfare situation; possibility of defeat of Nigerian forces by Beninese irregulars. (According to the CIA Factbook, Benin today has near 3 million males aged 15-54. Nigeria would be able to deploy several tens of thousands, at most, of its active forces [given Nigeria's other commitments]). Would Beninese men fight?

  207. @Steve Sailer

    I have only a few people of fame I can claim to know a bit, but it would pin down my locale. You’ve got everyone out there in Hollywood.

    OK, one time I did see people shooting a Michael McDonald video. I had to explain to a cute Mexican girl that, yes, this is the guy that single-handedly ruined Los Doobie Brothers.

  208. Hail says: • Website

    IMO the Christian-Islam rivalry is akin to the Britain-France rivalry. Past history.

    If so, how do you explain why rightist opposition in Europe rallies around the (anti-)Islam issue? I see no one in Britain using anti-French feeling for any political purpose; I see many using anti-Islam feeling.

    • Replies: @Bucky
  209. Hail says: • Website

    Malaysia which has irredentist claims against Singapore, could not stand against them

    Is this true? Any evidence for it?

    The dominant Malay political party UMNO famously expelled Singapore from Malaysia in 1965 because they worried Singapore was too full of “aggressive Chinese” who would inevitably dominate the sons-of-the-soil of Malaya. If Singapore were back in Malaysia, the same could still occur today, in theory.

    Malaysia (c. 2017) [=32.5m]
    - 55%: Muslim ethnic-Malays [=17.9m], mainly conservative;ethnoproxy Islamicist tinge
    - 14%: other (mainly Muslim) natives (Bumiputra) [=4.6m]
    - 23% Chinese (way down from nearly 35-40% in the mid-20th century) [=7.5m]
    - 7% Indian [=2.3m]

    Singapore (c. 2017) [=5.8m+]
    - 51% ethnic-Chinese citizens/residents [=3.0m]
    - 9% ethnic-Malay citizens/residents [=0.5m], mainly liberal; Malay ethnopolitics weak
    - 6% ethnic-Indian citizens/residents [=0.4m]
    - 2% Eurasian and other citizens/residents [=0.1m]
    - 31% non-citizen/non-residents of all races, incl. PRC-Chinese and purportedly quite disproportionately Indians [=1.8m+]

    Malaysia+Singapore today thus includes:
    - 10.5m Chinese (i.e. ethnic-Chinese citizens of Malaysia+Singapore)
    - 18m ethnic-Malays in Malaysia (a proven, solid voting bloc within Malaya/Malaysia, over sixty-plus years, the recent election result notwithstanding),
    - 10m, all Others

    The ethnic-Malays, besides being hopelessly dominated by Chinese money in a Malaysia-Singapore union, would not even dominate at the ballot box anymore.

    = I don’t think ethnic-Malays in Malaysia want Singapore ‘back.’

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  210. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:

    Former UK Liberal Party leader, Nick Clegg, publicly scoffed at and mocked UKIP man Nigel Farage for even daring to hint at the reality of the planned EU Army.

  211. LondonBob says:

    Yes my Spanish friend works in Saudi Arabia, much prefers it to Tanzania.

    Not being a Zionist the Muslim thing doesn’t interest me, non European percentages are what worry me.

    • Replies: @BB753
  212. LondonBob says:

    Is this the same Israeli military that got repulsed by Hezbollah and has persistent discipline issues? Problem is they have no NCO system, something that was once common in Eastern European armies.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Ibound1
  213. @LondonBob

    The Soviets didn’t have much of a career sergeant system. I gather you didn’t want to be a private in the Red Army because the corporals would make your life hell, kind of like fraternity initiations can get out of control when being run by 20 year olds. Most Western armies put a bunch of 30 year old sergeants in charge of what goes on in barracks and they are too old for the worst stuff.

  214. Bucky says:

    Because 1) Muslims are in fact more recent arrivals of the past few years especially with Syria 2) terrorism and 3) political correctness prohibits going after blacks, who are the true cancers of society.

    It is more salient now, but if you look at the broader picture, the big bomb will be African population explosion with global warming making those areas unliveable and black impulse control being not present.

  215. Ibound1 says:

    The Israeli professional army and reserve system is in place in Singapore. They can raise a large army within 48 hours. If Malaysia wants to take your word for it, they will have a very rude surprise coming.

  216. Romanian says: • Website

    We sent our national treasures, artworks, bullion and other valuables to Moscow for safe keeping during WW1 and still haven’t recovered most of them. The rest probably went through Armie Hammer’s grandfather into Western collections. The part we hid in a cave in WW2 was recovered easily. In our experience, hiding it in a cave is a better bet. By the time, they find it, they will likely once again have learned to appreciate it by having developed some critical distance from the politicized ethno-cultural transition period.

  217. Romanian says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    How can I protest this cultural appropriation?

  218. Romanian says: • Website

    In principle, as long as the military stays in White, culturally-Christian, reasonably rightist hands, there is nothing to worry about — in principle — even if/when(God forbid) France tips majority Black+Muslim later this century.

    I call BS. What did a White, religious, patriotic military do for South Africa? Constand Viljoen could have occupied the country during the handover, have pressed for an Afrikaner state. It is on the record that it was considered. He came out against it and that was that. The rest is history. He condemned his country for his honor.

  219. Romanian says: • Website

    I just wanted to point out that, at least for smaller countries, it was the partnership with the US that provided the incentive to reduce their militaries. I do not mean to excuse shirking on expenditure, but what happened was that, instead of focusing on manpower and certain levels of territorial defense coverage, they started focusing on expeditionary capabilities to participate in US-led coalitions and gain brownie points for NATO protection.

    Since I am automatically biased, I will refrain from invoking the Eastern European examples and give you that of Denmark.

    They sacrificed larger standing armies to better cover the cost of prolonged deployment. They chose one type of weapon system over the other (surface vessels over submarines) etc.

    And I should point out that the countries at least refused when the logical conclusion of this was offered – for them to barely have any true militaries at all and simply specialize, under the Smart Defense policy. The Baltics were the first to refuse.

  220. @Logan

    1. Singapore has a structural advantage–The straits No where in Africa replicates that. Regardless for all of their achievement, what does Singapore’s future project as, when the US inevitably withdraw if not Hong Kong redux? There is security in bigness.

    2. Singapore is a rich, welleducated city state . No Nigerian ethnicity compares. The only hope of even being competitive lies in leveraging ‘economies’ of scale . Splinterin just exarcebates existing flaws.

    3. The Singaporeeans are majorly Chnese and Indians, modern success stories . The largest collection of Blacks in the world have a certain burden of success which makes the success of the Nigerian project paramount in my view .

  221. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “Do we need to do something similar with France at some point?”

    No. None of our business. Besides, you assume that the Muslims will start blowing up the world if and when they gain control of the French government.

  222. @Wazoo

    When the rains stop due to climate change, hundreds of millions of starving Africans will head toward Europe. I doubt Europe will be able to turn them away.

    Rain doesn’t stop because of climate change. A warmer world is wetter world. And the higher CO2 has boosted agricultural productivity.

    Now specific areas?


    And Europe being able to turn them away–not an issue at all.


    The bottom line on all this stuff: The problem is entirely African overpopulation–and HBD. They have a ton of arable land–way, way, way more than Europe–sufficient to feed themselves quite nicely. Given tiny India feeding a population that is larger than all of Africa, there shouldn’t be any crisis in Africa at all. But they are Africans, so there is.

  223. BB753 says:

    You don’t have to be a Zionist to find Islam repellent as a European.

  224. PaulS says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Well for one thing the population of Johannesburg has doubled over the last 20 years.

    It overtook Chicago some time ago, Los Angeles is only a matter of time and Mexico city is a possibility at some point. (Numbers include Pretoria which is effectively merged into the agglomeration)

    The obsession with farmers misses the point that the real story is in the cities.

  225. Gneisenau says:

    Also consider that 21% of Nigerian children are “severely stunted” when thinking of the enrichment this migrant tide will bring to the West.

  226. Bucky says:

    DC is not natural. It is the political capital. It can literally tax and spend its way to prosperity.

    Areas that have to compete on their own merits like Philadelphia or Detroit are completely dragged down by the black population. Compared to other cities of similar sizes but which are more white.

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