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From the New York Daily News:
Vandals not responsible for dozens of tipped graves at Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn, management says
Cops don’t believe that the graves at Washington Cemetery on Bay Parkway in Midwood were pushed over by vandals. (TODD MAISEL/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS)
BY EDGAR SANDOVAL, LAURA DIMON, REUVEN BLAU
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, March 5, 2017, 3:01 PMPolice and the general manager of a Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn said that 42 fallen headstones were not caused by vandals, saying Sunday that the memorials had naturally tipped over due to age — though some elected officials were calling for an investigation, anyway.
“It definitely was not vandalism,” Marisa Tarantino, general manager of the Washington Cemetery on Bay Parkway in Midwood, told reporters.
“The older sections, as the stones wear, they do fall over or are unstable,” she continued. “What we do is we lay them across the grave to keep them memorialized rather than taking (them) away.”
A police spokesman agreed.
“There’s no evidence of vandalism,” the spokesman said. “In conference with managers of the cemetery, it appears to be a result of neglect of maintenance combined with environmental factors, such as the soil giving way.”
But later Sunday, a trio of officials stood outside the 100-acre property, demanding an investigation.
“Nobody wants to jump to conclusions,” said state Assemblyman Dov Hikind. “In light of everything going on in the country, we wanted to see what this was all about.
“There are many tombstones that clearly have been pushed over, clearly vandalized,” he added. “We are not talking about tombstones that are naturally lying down. There are some of those. All you gotta do is walk in there and see that something is just not right.”
Tarantino said staff actually leaves them that way when “they are unable to be reset.”
“We do appreciate the community’s concern but if they would have called the office we would have explained it to them,” she added.
Those fortunate enough not to live in certain benighted sections of Brooklyn are denied the pleasure of being represented by the vile Dov Hikind. This character has been pandering to the manufactured fears of his constituents for way too many decades!
Well, it does appear that erosion is anti-Semitic.
What I want is for DHS to arrest the Muslims and POC who keep creating these holes in the road. They are ruining my suspension.
Can’t be made up.
Wonder what the hot takes and Op-eds on this will be like.
A question that needs answering, will President Trump denounce the anti-Semitism of soil!
Though with soil being things of colour, I’m not so sure of the procedure here.
No hate ghouls? Betrayal!!!
No hate ghouls? Betrayal!!!
Perhaps gravestone setting /resetting could be potential new careers for immigrants. We cannot have fallen tombstones rotting in the fields. It is not who we are.
http://www.gravestonepreservation.info/articles/gravestone-resetting
well, let us not be overly critical of the ADL. They probably suspected that Aryan Wicaans had adopted the game of Fistivus and were overturning the headstones.
I used to walk through Brompton Cemetery in London and fallen crosses and memorials were quite common. Usually the fallen cross or memorial was placed on the grave. This type of situation is usually caused by a family that is no longer interested in maintaining the memorial.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14876065.Child_who_witnessed_Ciaran_Williamson_tragedy_shouted__We_re_murderers_/
So after a 6 foot stone (I'd call those obelisks) collapsed, tens of thousands of two and three foot headstones were flattened all over the UK and relatives were very upset . But no one gave it international publicity as an anti-Christian hate crime.
Natural consequence of declining birthrates.
The original feast, Festivus, involves feats of strength so it was plausible to the ADL that toppling their headstones had become part of the anti-semities spin off Fistivus.
“tipped over due to age”
Time is antisemitic.
Time is antisemitic.
And gravity.
Occam’s razor. The headstones tipped over as the souls were ripped out and taken to Hell.
As soon as I saw Dov Hikind’s name, I knew what would follow. He’s sort of a local-level version of Chuck Schumer, speaking out on every possible issue, although without the latter’s smarts. But, like Schumer, Hikind loves the cameras and microphones. He would go to the opening of an envelope.
You can’t rule out global warming.
Soooooo…Marisa Tarantino is claiming that this wasn’t the anti-Semitism of vandals…
…but the anti-cemeterism of meteorological thermodynamics?
Oy, what a hater!
You do talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
2nd RULE of ANTI-CEMETERIZAM:
You DO talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
You know this would be funnier if it wasn’t for the fact that Unz review makes a point of hosting people who do, in simple point of fact, hate Jews. For example, Israel Shamir is a certifiable nut who actually invented an entire personal history so he could pose as a renegade Jew (he’s not Jewish) exposing Jewish secrets. Here is a representative sample of his ravings:
Like really? No other reason?
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia’s father is called “Kit” etymologically derived from “carrier of Christ”. Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
What's with the obsessive focus on hypothesized motives, rather than the merits or otherwise of what is actually said?
The answer, of course, is that it is an established and effective tool for censoring people, and also that discrediting the other side's arguments by impugning their motives is a staple of political debate even as it is a logical fallacy. But why should anyone who does not share your political goals respect your attempt to do either?How can you know that any of them are "real", given the clear evidence that hate hoaxes do take place, and given the clear motive for constructing them (or "misinterpreting" natural events such as seems to have been the case here) based on the prevalence of your kind of thinking in the societies of the modern US sphere ("look, we are hated, so those who disagree with us are just haters and must be silenced, and their arguments must be regarded as discredited ab initio")?
(In practice, I don't doubt that some of them are real, but I see no reliable way to know if it is a small proportion or a large proportion of those reported in our mainstream media.)Sailer and his readers spend a lot of time exposing and ridiculing hate hoaxes targeted against white people on behalf of black lobby interests, and clearly there are some people here who are motivated by hatred of backs, for whatever that is worth. Does that mean Sailer should "man up and say that he hates black people"?
The rest is irrelevant but I'd be curious to know about all of these other incidents. I hope they don't include phony and malformed swastikas and would be irrelevant in any case to the overreaction on display here.
One that stood out was this one:
If a Jewish guy trips and falls, we must first suspect antisemitism even if he was all by himself.
I mean let’s not jump to conclusions.
It could be invisible nazis, the kind that knocked out Matt Yglesias.
The invisible Nazi punched Matt just when a black guy was nearby, thereby framing the latter.
We need ghostbusters to deal with invisible Nazis.
Focusing on micro-aggressions is not enough.
Time to zero in on invisible aggressions.
Once again, after being ridiculed by the media, Trump is ultimately proven right.
I’ve long thought, cemeteries are wasted space. When i shuffle off this mortal coil, i will live on through my kids, their kids, my race, my civilization. I don’t need any personal real estate–that’s for the living.
I think if we’re going to bury folks, then cemeteries should double as golf courses. (I came up with this years ago, long before i read Steve. Honest.)
Personally, I'd like not to be troubled over, but the law makes it hard to dump me in the garden to decompose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4XQuEYDoj4
Well, they can look on the bright side. At least it wasn’t yet another hoax hate crime.
Now that , since it occurred in New York City, you can say precariously balanced headstones tipping over is not an antisemitic act, any chance the usually cold weather across the US this winter caused ice to form and lift the headstones enough to tip?
How about a tax on gravesites which would be dedicated to maintaining grave yards. Any dead people that fail to pay the tax are respectfully disinterred in cremated.
1st RULE of ANTI-CEMETERIZAM:
You do talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
2nd RULE of ANTI-CEMETERIZAM:
You DO talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
Someone ought to run a newspaper that does nothing but deconstructs and refutes everyone of these hoaxes. There seem to be enough “fake news” to rebut everyday nowadays.
everyone every one
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
Just as much of the mainstream media makes a point of hosting people who, in point of fact and based upon the exact same kind of reasoning, do hate white people, or Russians, or whoever (not generally black people or jewish people or homosexuals, obviously).
What’s with the obsessive focus on hypothesized motives, rather than the merits or otherwise of what is actually said?
The answer, of course, is that it is an established and effective tool for censoring people, and also that discrediting the other side’s arguments by impugning their motives is a staple of political debate even as it is a logical fallacy. But why should anyone who does not share your political goals respect your attempt to do either?
How can you know that any of them are “real”, given the clear evidence that hate hoaxes do take place, and given the clear motive for constructing them (or “misinterpreting” natural events such as seems to have been the case here) based on the prevalence of your kind of thinking in the societies of the modern US sphere (“look, we are hated, so those who disagree with us are just haters and must be silenced, and their arguments must be regarded as discredited ab initio”)?
(In practice, I don’t doubt that some of them are real, but I see no reliable way to know if it is a small proportion or a large proportion of those reported in our mainstream media.)
Sailer and his readers spend a lot of time exposing and ridiculing hate hoaxes targeted against white people on behalf of black lobby interests, and clearly there are some people here who are motivated by hatred of backs, for whatever that is worth. Does that mean Sailer should “man up and say that he hates black people”?
If there’s something strange
in your graveyardhood,
Who ya gonna call?
Dov’s Tombstone Patrol
If you’re seeing things
running through your head
Who ya gonna call?
Dov’s Tombstone Patrol
Lemme tell ya something, bustin’ makes me feel good
Our local graveyard outraged some locals a few years back by basically giving all the headstones a push, and then laying flat (aka “pushing completely over”) any that showed signs of movement. I think this was pre-emptive ‘elf-and-safety after an 8 year old playing in a Glasgow churchyard was crushed by a 6ft stone after his friend “climbed up it”. Only those kids know how it came to fall.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14876065.Child_who_witnessed_Ciaran_Williamson_tragedy_shouted__We_re_murderers_/
So after a 6 foot stone (I’d call those obelisks) collapsed, tens of thousands of two and three foot headstones were flattened all over the UK and relatives were very upset . But no one gave it international publicity as an anti-Christian hate crime.
I think if we're going to bury folks, then cemeteries should double as golf courses. (I came up with this years ago, long before i read Steve. Honest.)
That’s actually a great idea. With modern geo-positioning technology, you wouldn’t even need headstones messing up the landscaping. Of course, every new burial would be like a new sand trap until the grass overgrew it. Still, a good idea.
Personally, I’d like not to be troubled over, but the law makes it hard to dump me in the garden to decompose.
Everyday every day
everyone every one
Their relatives cry out from the grave as they strike you!
everyone every one
Thanks for the correction. I wrote that in a hurry. I hope you follow every one of my comments and insert spaces where I forget.
You do talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
2nd RULE of ANTI-CEMETERIZAM:
You DO talk a lot about ANTI-CEMETERIZAM.
I like it. What about simply Anti-cementism?
Rahm already did some newspaper wrapped fish deliveries in the past...
So, you never know;
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ce/c5/98/cec59808da8c94c7ff4197085cf24e01.jpg
Rahm already did some newspaper wrapped fish deliveries in the past...
So, you never know;
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ce/c5/98/cec59808da8c94c7ff4197085cf24e01.jpg
I remember back in the 80s when some kids did this at a local cemetery. They got caught and admitted they did it. Of course, they were kids and so did not have any deep thoughts about what they were doing other than knowing it would get a rise out of people. The same kids spray painted a veterans memorial. Contrary to what our elites imagine, the vast majority of people in this country have very little contact or experience with Jewish people, and would not have anything negative to say about them. WW2 and the holocaust ancient history, and they don’t know or notice anything about moneylending, media domination, etc. People who actually do this kind of thing are kids. Kids just know it will get covered in the news and they can brag to their friends, and it is safer to push over headstones or spray paint swastikas than to do something to provoke other minority groups.
‘After the town of Wunsiedel became the site of pilgrimages and neo-Nazi demonstrations every August on the date of [Rudolf] Hess’s death, the parish council decided not to allow an extension on the grave site’s lease when it expired in 2011. With the eventual consent of his family, Hess’s grave was re-opened on 20 July 2011 and his remains were exhumed, and then cremated. His ashes were scattered at sea by family members; his gravestone, which bore the epitaph “Ich hab’s gewagt” (“I have dared”), was destroyed.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess#Death_and_aftermath
In Oceania, the memory hole is ravenous enough to devour whole gravestones — of unpersons.
I think if we're going to bury folks, then cemeteries should double as golf courses. (I came up with this years ago, long before i read Steve. Honest.)
President Trump’s view
I have been skeptical about these incidents and reports all along; thanks to Radio Derb and Vdare, I have been aware of the phenomenon of “hate crime” hoaxes and narrative collapse for some time now. I certainly find the accusation, made repeatedly by those hostile to President Trump, that he or his supporters are implicated in any of these incidents that have been reported to be without basis and nothing short of deplorable. I have nothing but contempt and disgust for an organization like the $PLC (which is one of, if not the most-quoted sources for the claim that there has been a dramatic increase in “hate crimes” since the election of DJT). I have long found Dov Hikind, the local New York Assemblyman quoted in the article, reprehensible. Moreover, as an Orthodox Jew myself, I find Hikind absolutely shameful for behaving more like a representative of the Zionist State of Israel than of the U.S. assembly district that he is paid with taxpayer dollars to represent.
With all of the above said, I am afraid that I nonetheless find myself quite disturbed by this blog post and nearly all of the comments on it that I’ve read thus far.
First, even if this had been the only case of gravestones in a Jewish cemetery found to have been disturbed (whatever the cause) and even if there would be no reason to doubt the explanation given by the cemetery manager quoted in the article, would it really have been so unreasonable for people to have been alarmed upon noticing that gravestones had been disturbed?
As it is, however, this is not the only case of such; there have been at least two or three others reported and photographed. (Again, I am not suggesting that I presume to know what is behind any of the incidents-in-question; for all I know they may very well all be nothing more than false flag operations carried-out in order to discredit President Trump. My point is simply that it is not unreasonable for people to be concerned and even alarmed at the mere discovery of disturbed gravestones.
A salient part of the NY Daily News article not included in the excerpt that Mr. Sailer quoted is a photo of Hikind standing in front of the gate surrounding the cemetery and pointing-to what can clearly be seen as a section where the barbed wire that tops the rest of the gate that is visible in the photo appears to have been cut. Now, perhaps there is a perfectly plausible explanation that does not involve vandalism for this gap in the barbed wire. I do not know. But is it unreasonable to question it and even find it suspicious?
Another part of the article that Mr. Sailer makes no mention of is where David Greenfield, a local City Councilman, is quoted as saying,
(Emphasis in above as well as below quotes mine- Dissident)
That could be in conflict with the cemetery manager’s claim that the the gravestones “had naturally tipped over due to age“.
This blog post and most of the comments on it seem little better than the reflexive reactions of SJW types blaming Trump, a priori, without any evidence the moment they hear any report of any alleged incident of this or similar nature. Seems like two sides of the same coin.
Around 12 years or so ago in Britain the local councils, acting on government direction, went round tipping or staking* all but the most securely anchored gravestones in all the cemeteries in Britain. If you wanted your family gravetones restored, you had to pay up – a nice little extortion racket. It was supposedly for ‘Health & Safety’ – “A child might be crushed!” – they tipped even markers only a few inches tall.
Going around my local cemetery I noticed that one set of graves was not conspicuously untouched. Not the graves of the Afro-Caribbeans, those were intermingled among the indigenous British. Though the gravekeepers had tales of being threatened by machete-wielding Yardies, they bravely stood up to such intimidation & continued the desecration.
No, it was in the Muslim area that not a single gravestone had been toppled.
(Not living in North London, I don’t know whether Jewish gravestones enjoy a similarly privileged status.)
*Grave Staking is even worse in terms of desecration, it looks appalling.
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
I think it’s possible to laugh at paranoid tendencies among any group without on the one hand hating anyone or on the other hand getting one’s feelings hurt.
The rest is irrelevant but I’d be curious to know about all of these other incidents. I hope they don’t include phony and malformed swastikas and would be irrelevant in any case to the overreaction on display here.
1) Anti-semitic crimes are not a particularly big problem in the US and in general religiously motivated crime is not a particularly big problem in the US. However, of what little there is anti-Jewish incidents are overepresented.
2) There appears to have been a spike since the election. Part of that is clearly hoaxes and part of that is clearly the media deciding to pay attention for partisan reasons. Maybe, and hopefully, that's all of it.
May be they decided to pack up and move to Israel.
Cemeteries are lovely in many ways but they need to be phased out. They are an unsustainable relic of the 19th and 20th centuries. Maybe this hoax will foment conversation about sustainable management of the dead.
How long is this guy’s nose? And is his dad called Geppetto?
As I’ve said, there is no Santa Claus, the Emperor wears no clothes, and there is no anti-Semitism of any consequence in the United States.
This will not change the myths taught to every new generation. Those are necessary and sufficient.
Most will continue to pretend it is real.
And they will hold up statements like this as proof.
Or not having family at all.
Natural consequence of declining birthrates.
I think if we're going to bury folks, then cemeteries should double as golf courses. (I came up with this years ago, long before i read Steve. Honest.)
I actually agree. I think cremation and scattering is the way to go. Save the land for crops and houses for the living.
Having just reported the results of the investigation, the authors somehow fail to grasp that an investigation has already been done.
Amazing.
Business idea: IPO for gravestone reinforcement. Pre-need funding pays for subsequent subscriber payouts in growth opportunity. Security provided so no one made off with the funds.
Googling tombstone + erosion leads to some interesting results
For example, did you know that Arlington national cemetery tombstones were used for erosion control? Not clear if these were named stones or just blanks left lying around, but still.
An Army investigation released earlier this month found Arlington’s management system to be “dysfunctional.”
More than 200 graves were mislabeled and at least four funeral urns were dumped in a dirt pile.
The cemetery’s top two leaders have been reprimanded and replaced.
http://www.upi.com/Tombstones-used-for-erosion-control/49091277294746/
Disturbing.
First they get you in Veteran Hospital, then they finish you up in Arlington...
It' s like many of Servicemen of the greatest country in the history are somehow doomed to experience their own Overville Dam demise twice- first in life, then in death.
But, let's talk about Russians.
But full-metal-bedsheet Klan members obviously knocked over this one, that one and that one over there. While whistling the Horst Wessel Song!
It’s like duelling towtrucks at an accident – Dov and the boys were just making sure Morris & Heidi from the SPLC didn’t jump their crime scene and hog all the donations afterwards as usual.
In light of what going on in the country? Hate crime hoaxes? Anyway, I thought you people referred to defacing your own tombstones as “priming the pump”.
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
Can you point out a few that have actually been verified with evidence of who committed them and why? Bonus points if the perpetrators are neither black nor muslim.
How about you teach kids not to play in cemateries?
If that’s all it takes to get you het up, the accusations Jews have been making against Christians (inter alia) since forever, they must drive you absolutely bonkers.
It would be helpful to have a database with every hate hoax documented.
Abney Park Cemetery in Stoke Newington supports hardly any fully vertical headstones. Subsidence from excavation and decay is the most common cause. I don’t know if William Booth or Frank Bostock still hold their ground above them there, but I know I wish the latter man, who discovered that lions and tigers fear chairs, had more renown.
Natural consequence of declining birthrates.
More likely a result of the fact that in every generation there are more dead people on earth than live ones.
Unless you are suggesting that our future utopia be a global necropolis sustained by the labors of r-reproductive-strategy-breeders.
Then there’s pedigree collapse.
I want a sky burial. Prolly will have to engineer it for myself in the highest high country. In that uncertain period between the devastating diagnosis and the state-mandated enfeebled/pharmaceutical saturated demise (and total cashectomy).
I’d be happy to have ravens be my skystones.
Also wouldn’t mind being scuttled at Scapa Flow.
The rest is irrelevant but I'd be curious to know about all of these other incidents. I hope they don't include phony and malformed swastikas and would be irrelevant in any case to the overreaction on display here.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/11/15/fbi-legit-hate-crimes-prevalent-blue-states/
Generally we can make the following observations
1) Anti-semitic crimes are not a particularly big problem in the US and in general religiously motivated crime is not a particularly big problem in the US. However, of what little there is anti-Jewish incidents are overepresented.
2) There appears to have been a spike since the election. Part of that is clearly hoaxes and part of that is clearly the media deciding to pay attention for partisan reasons. Maybe, and hopefully, that’s all of it.
I think it's fair to say a lot of non Jews harbor minor stereotype prejudices (rich, in control).
I agree with other posters that anti-semitism in the US is rather minor.
I can appreciate the reasoning that argues that attempting to exercise political leverage against Israel for its activities can be damaging to the Jewish state, and thus, the Jewish people, and thus, "anti-semitic", but while I can appreciate that kind of reasoning I don't think it quite works. It's really no different than saying that Charles Murray is Hitler, etc.
http://www.amchainitiative.org/antisemitism-tracker-bydate
For example, did you know that Arlington national cemetery tombstones were used for erosion control? Not clear if these were named stones or just blanks left lying around, but still.
An Army investigation released earlier this month found Arlington's management system to be "dysfunctional."
More than 200 graves were mislabeled and at least four funeral urns were dumped in a dirt pile.
The cemetery's top two leaders have been reprimanded and replaced.
http://www.upi.com/Tombstones-used-for-erosion-control/49091277294746/
Graveyard management might not be a career path that attracts hard chargers.
Personally, I'd like not to be troubled over, but the law makes it hard to dump me in the garden to decompose.
Yet another reason to convert to Zoroastrianism: Towers of Silence.
We had a large number of stones blown over during a night of storms last week. Has it rained in this graveyard in the past month?
1) Anti-semitic crimes are not a particularly big problem in the US and in general religiously motivated crime is not a particularly big problem in the US. However, of what little there is anti-Jewish incidents are overepresented.
2) There appears to have been a spike since the election. Part of that is clearly hoaxes and part of that is clearly the media deciding to pay attention for partisan reasons. Maybe, and hopefully, that's all of it.
Thanks. Sometimes an “anti-Semitic” incident amounts to little more than trading insults over a parking space. I’d need more details to evaluate. Certainly a physical assault on someone because they are Jewish, or threats of same, or defacement with anti-Semitic intent rise to that standard. But sometimes they are hoaxes too (or just misunderstandings like this one.)
I think it’s fair to say a lot of non Jews harbor minor stereotype prejudices (rich, in control).
I agree with other posters that anti-semitism in the US is rather minor.
1) Anti-semitic crimes are not a particularly big problem in the US and in general religiously motivated crime is not a particularly big problem in the US. However, of what little there is anti-Jewish incidents are overepresented.
2) There appears to have been a spike since the election. Part of that is clearly hoaxes and part of that is clearly the media deciding to pay attention for partisan reasons. Maybe, and hopefully, that's all of it.
By the way I started looking for an itemization of “anti-Semitic” incidents since the election and I found the link below, it appears that the vast majority of these incidents involve political criticism of Israel, including calls for divestment, and BDS. At least, that’s what most of them seemed to say before my eyes glazed over.
I can appreciate the reasoning that argues that attempting to exercise political leverage against Israel for its activities can be damaging to the Jewish state, and thus, the Jewish people, and thus, “anti-semitic”, but while I can appreciate that kind of reasoning I don’t think it quite works. It’s really no different than saying that Charles Murray is Hitler, etc.
http://www.amchainitiative.org/antisemitism-tracker-bydate
This is wrong and the two are not connected, there is no equivalency.
Israel has as much right to exist as any other country.
Unless you can come up with criteria that deny the right to exist to a whole class of countries and Israel is just one of the countries that fit the criteria then it remains that one is opposed to the existence of Israel because it is a Jewish state and one is anti-Semitic.
Some people are trying to silence Murray because they don't like what he has to say, and some sincerely believe that they are fighting bigotry.
The Jew haters equate to those trying to silence Murray.
Same way my Dad taught me not to do things.
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
If you are concerned that Crypto-Gentiles are trying to appear to be Jewish in order to subvert the Jewish people from within, then why don’t you invent a convention to identify them? You could write instead +++Israel Shamir+++.
At first I was dubious as you said that and then failed to provide an example. However, I then did a search for Jewish vandalism and there was indeed non-hoax Jewish vandalism post-election.
One that stood out was this one:
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
Ironically, part of the reason many or most of these incidents are likely hoaxes is that these days the internet attracts most of the anti-Semitic energy. Vandalizing cemeteries requires a lot of physical effort with little return for anti-Semites. By contrast, online activity is a lot more cathartic for anti-Semites, and they can commune with many fellow anti-Semites. Furthermore, anti-Semites can reach and radicalize a lot more people through the internet, so the internet is a lot more efficacious. Most anti-Semites today became anti-Semitic through the internet.
For some people it’s just easier to create a national story than confirm the story first with the local cemetery. Less moving parts.
Diss, Nicely stated.
“Our headstone maintenance program for lucky interees in Forest Lawns Marstastic is guaranteed to give you perpetual peace of mind ” the spokesit of Elon Musk said gravely.
“Only 5,000,000 places. Book now and beat the rush.”
I had never knowingly met a Jew until I went away to college in the 1950s.
I had a Jewish neighbor that I did not have any feelings about, and a Jewish teacher or two. The only Jewish girl in my high school was hot. I knew the stereotype that they were cheap. Other than that, I had no experience with them. I grew up with a fair number of children of Slavic immigrants who had negative things to say about them being cheats as well as cheap, but I no experience with it.
I went to boot camp with a guy from northern Maine who never met a black person until he was on the bus for boot camp, and assumed they were all funny basketball player types.
For all this crowd complains about the traditional conservative right, they are really letting the left have it on this issue. The conservatives are laughing loudly in their faces and deservedly so:
Another example, a few weeks ago Steve Sailer posted something by Cordelia Fine. Fine is a old Norman name that happens to be a homophone of the Jewish surname Fein. Cordelia's father is called "Kit" etymologically derived from "carrier of Christ". Of course, the isteve brain trust turned up with their stupid ((())) because it is literally all they can think to do.
Anyway, there are plenty of real examples of anti-Jewish vandalism since the election. If you think that Jews deserve it for their 2,000 year conspiracy against Whites/Christ/whatever, then man up and say so.
I think Mr. Shamir is a convert to Christianity. Please cite evidence that his personal history is invented.
I think if we're going to bury folks, then cemeteries should double as golf courses. (I came up with this years ago, long before i read Steve. Honest.)
I’d go for your idea for future deceased who agree to it in advance, not existing cemeteries. You’d have to block out different days for burials and golf.
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Pardon my cementics, but it’s very Chickagonian thang …
Rahm already did some newspaper wrapped fish deliveries in the past…
So, you never know;
Pardon my cementics, but it’s very Chickagonian thang …
Rahm already did some newspaper wrapped fish deliveries in the past…
So, you never know;
For example, did you know that Arlington national cemetery tombstones were used for erosion control? Not clear if these were named stones or just blanks left lying around, but still.
An Army investigation released earlier this month found Arlington's management system to be "dysfunctional."
More than 200 graves were mislabeled and at least four funeral urns were dumped in a dirt pile.
The cemetery's top two leaders have been reprimanded and replaced.
http://www.upi.com/Tombstones-used-for-erosion-control/49091277294746/
Googling “rule of tumbstone and erosion of trust”
Disturbing.
First they get you in Veteran Hospital, then they finish you up in Arlington…
It’ s like many of Servicemen of the greatest country in the history are somehow doomed to experience their own Overville Dam demise twice- first in life, then in death.
But, let’s talk about Russians.
Kids don’t actually play in cemeteries here. A couple might sneak in now and then.
Do you recall if you had any feelings about them one way or the other?
I had a Jewish neighbor that I did not have any feelings about, and a Jewish teacher or two. The only Jewish girl in my high school was hot. I knew the stereotype that they were cheap. Other than that, I had no experience with them. I grew up with a fair number of children of Slavic immigrants who had negative things to say about them being cheats as well as cheap, but I no experience with it.
I went to boot camp with a guy from northern Maine who never met a black person until he was on the bus for boot camp, and assumed they were all funny basketball player types.
The local mosque has an answer for you.
I can appreciate the reasoning that argues that attempting to exercise political leverage against Israel for its activities can be damaging to the Jewish state, and thus, the Jewish people, and thus, "anti-semitic", but while I can appreciate that kind of reasoning I don't think it quite works. It's really no different than saying that Charles Murray is Hitler, etc.
http://www.amchainitiative.org/antisemitism-tracker-bydate
I can appreciate that kind of reasoning I don’t think it quite works. It’s really no different than saying that Charles Murray is Hitler, etc.
This is wrong and the two are not connected, there is no equivalency.
Israel has as much right to exist as any other country.
Unless you can come up with criteria that deny the right to exist to a whole class of countries and Israel is just one of the countries that fit the criteria then it remains that one is opposed to the existence of Israel because it is a Jewish state and one is anti-Semitic.
Some people are trying to silence Murray because they don’t like what he has to say, and some sincerely believe that they are fighting bigotry.
The Jew haters equate to those trying to silence Murray.