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After an Oscar nominationless half century career of playing Mean Girls who don’t give a damn, 69-year-old Charlotte Rampling refuses to be White Guilted over her first-ever nomination. From the New York Times:

Charlotte Rampling Says Oscars ‘Boycott’ Is ‘Racist Against Whites’
The Carpetbagger
By RACHEL DONADIO JAN. 22, 2016
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PARIS — Charlotte Rampling, an Academy Award nominee for best actress, on Friday waded into the furor over the lack of diversity in the Oscar acting categories, saying that the supposed calls to boycott the ceremony were “racist against whites.”

Speaking fluent French in an interview with France’s Europe 1 radio, the British actress said that one would “never really know” how the Academy makes its decisions, and that “sometimes maybe black actors didn’t deserve to make the shortlist.”

… Ms. Rampling — who is a member of the Academy and thus eligible to vote on Oscar awards — said she disagreed with quotas. “We live now in countries where anyway people are more or less accepted,” she said. “There are always problems: ‘He’s less handsome’ or ‘He’s too black’ or ‘He’s too white.’ There will always, always be someone who will say, ‘Oh, you’re too ….’ What are we going to do? We’re going to classify all that to create thousands of little minorities everywhere?”

Asked what she thought of the fact that so many minority performers still feel that they lack the recognition they deserve, Ms. Rampling gave a crisp “no comment.”

The backlash online was swift, with commenters like Cameron Bailey, the artistic director of the influential Toronto International Film Festival, and others also suggesting that Academy members may privately agree with her.

Until recently, it would have been considered a compliment to say that only Charlotte Rampling has the courage to say what other are thinking, but we’re well past all considerations of individual character.

… Q. This year the Oscars are beset by polemics: No black actor or actress in the selection for the second year in a row. Do you understand the anger of, for instance, Spike Lee, who called for a boycott of the ceremony?

A. No. I find that goes in the other direction: it’s racist against whites.

Q. Really?

A. Yes. We can never know if it’s really the case. Sometimes maybe black actors didn’t deserve to make the shortlist.

Q. He [Spike] explains that he wants to instate quotas for minorities in American cinema so that they can make it into the selection.

A. Why classify people? We live now in countries where anyway people are more or less accepted. There are always problems: ‘He’s less handsome’ or ‘He’s too black’ or ‘He’s too white.’ There will always, always be someone who will say, ‘Oh, you’re too…’ What are we going to do? We’re going to classify all that to create thousands of little minorities everywhere?

Q. The fact that they still feel like a minority, that doesn’t speak to you? They feel like a minority. They say, ‘We’re black actors and we still don’t really exist.’

A. No comment.

Ouch. There are few things more deflating of your public hissy fit than a crisp “No comment” from Charlotte Rampling.

In other news, the Academy vows to purge Stale Pale Males, but may unintentionally cut down on the number of female voters. From another story in the NYT:

Academy Board Endorses Changes to Increase Diversity in Oscar Nominees and Itself

By MICHAEL CIEPLY JAN. 22, 2016

LOS ANGELES — Confronting a fierce protest over a second straight year of all-white Oscar acting nominations, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences on Friday said it would make radical changes to its voting requirements, recruiting process and governing structure, with an aim toward increasing the diversity of its membership.

The changes were approved at an unusual special meeting of the group’s 51-member governing board Thursday night. The session ended with a unanimous vote to endorse the new processes, but action on possible changes to Oscar balloting was deferred for later consideration. The board said its goal was to double the number of female and minority members by 2020.

“The academy is going to lead and not wait for the industry to catch up,” the academy’s president, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, said in a statement. Ms. Isaacs referred to an often-repeated complaint that the academy, in its lack of diversity, reflects the demographics of a film industry that for years has been primarily white and male.

The most striking of the changes is a requirement that the voting status of both new and current members be reviewed every 10 years.

Voting status may be revoked for those who have not been active in the film business in a decade. But members will have lifetime voting rights after three 10-year terms, as will those who have won or been nominated for an Academy Award.

It was not immediately clear how many members would be purged from the voting rolls by the new rule. But the step, which aims to replace older members with a younger, more diverse group, is certain to be met with criticism, and perhaps resistance, from some.

“I’m squarely in what I would call the mentorship phase of my life,” said Sam Weisman, who has been a member of the Academy’s directors’ branch since 1998, but has had no directing credit since “Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star” in 2003.

(Here’s my review of Mr. Weisman’s “Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star” with David Spade as Dickie Roberts, former child star.)

But will purging people who haven’t gotten a movie credit in ten years make the voters more female? I don’t know, but I would hardly be surprised if the unexpected consequence was the opposite: the average active movie career of actresses is shorter than the average movie career of actors, at least if they don’t have the bone structure of Charlotte Rampling. For example, my late Japanese-American neighbor Bill, who became an Academy member many decades ago in an early diversity drive, continued to get minor credits late into life because he had this imposing Japanese Tough Guy face that only got more striking as he got older.

 
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  1. Americans have a glimpse of tbe non-White majority American future that the elites wished. Endless squabbles between races about fairness, representation etc. It is exhausting to keep up with the endless complaints and grievances of black groups.

  2. Bernie Sanders vs the two loud black girls.

    Hollywood vs Jada and Spike.

    Jews vs blacks.

    But let’s pretend it’s all about ‘whites’.

    PS. Donald Sterling must be laughing.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    Just thinking about it, Trump vs Sanders is a dream match up for Trump. All he has to do is replay the BLM Sanders protest for an advertisement, over and over. No one wants a weak leader.
  3. Talk like this drives me nuts because I’m the only true race-ist.

  4. Interesting to see the Smiths (Will and Jada) hopping on the boycott bandwagon….Perhaps a case of wounded amour- propre, seeing as how Will’s Oscar-bait role in Concussion didn’t get nominated this year…

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Donald Trump Retweets Apparent Neo-Nazi Supporter”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-tweets-apparent-neo-nazi-supporter-n502136

    Donald Trump on Friday retweeted what appears to be a neo-Nazi Twitter account that posted a photoshopped picture mocking rival Jeb Bush.

    The tweet by user “@WhiteGenocideTM” featured an image of Bush dressed as a panhandler outside Trump Tower with a “Vote Trump” sign.

    WhiteGenocideTM’s profile picture is an image of George Lincoln Rockwell, the infamous founder of the American Nazi Party, with the caption “The Man Who Wants To Be Hitler.” His listed location is “Jewmerica.”

    An additional banner image on his profile reads: “GET THE F— OUT OF MY COUNTRY.” Recent tweets and retweets from the account include anti-Semitic imagery, quotes from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and tweets deriding Martin Luther King Jr. The profile also listed a link to a website promoting a biographical documentary of Adolf Hitler.

    Trump, whose Twitter account is a central piece of his messaging operation, with more than 5 million followers, has passed on tweets from users who espouse white supremacist and openly racist causes in the past.

    • Replies: @Honesthughgrant
    In other news, Trump says he likes oatmeal - just like Hitler.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Quelle horreur!
    , @Wyrd
    Hitler loved dogs; so if you support SPCA, you're a Nazi!
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    Retweeting a WNist supporter, one who styles himself "WhiteGenocideTM," would utterly destroy the career of some typical cuck. But something tells me The Trump will be just fine.
  6. I understand Nigeria has a large movie industry; larger than Hollywood in some ways (number of movies). Maybe Spike can go over there and be a big hit and get all the glory he so richly deserves.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    also Nollywood awards should have a quota for south asian, east asian and white film makers
  7. they should simply add a best black actor category so every year there will be a black winning the best black actor award and someone who happens to be white winning the best actor award.

    • Replies: @John Cunningham
    Actually, they need 2 new awards, one for black males, one for black females. Call them the Step-in Fetchit award and the Butterfly McQueen statue.
    , @White Guy In Japan
    Plaques for Blacks!
  8. Was your neighbor the Odd Job guy? He wasn’t Mr. Miyagi right? He wasn’t very intimidating.

    Was your neighbor in Bloodsport? There were a lot of action movies in the 80s with martial arts and Asian villains. Your neighbor must have had a lot of work then.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

  9. Maybe Ta-nehisi Coates could work it into his new reparations plan/argument:

    Reparations is not one possible tool against white supremacy. It is the indispensable tool against white supremacy.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/

    For example, we could agree to have only black winners for some period of time. Hopefully, we could pay it off sooner that way, rather than by offering just a few winners per year or offering a larger pool of nominees.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    This is Ta-Nehisi Coates' argument in a nutshell:

    #1 - Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.
    #2 - Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,
    #3 - And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,
    #4 - The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    It really is a rebound off feminism in the '70's, come to think of it.
    , @bomag
    One problem with Reparations, or purposely diversifying the Oscars, is that it entails admitting guilt, and then the claims will never end. The plaintiffs here are a group that has no intention of letting any agreement end their complaining.
    , @Arclight
    What I thought went unmentioned in TNC's piece on Sanders' support for some long-shot legislative proposals and not reparations is this: Sanders - and silently, many leftists - actually believe things like universal healthcare would work if put into place no matter how remote the odds, but don't feel the same about reparations.

    Having worked in Democratic politics and having discussed reparations with left leaning friends, although there are some that think reparations should be granted, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks they would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.
    , @boogerbently
    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.
    They don't want to equal whites, because then they'd have to keep earning it.
    They are lazy.
    I say we determine how much $$$$ they should get in reparations.
    Then subtract the decades of welfare/healthcare/affirmative Action.....
    from that amount.
    They can pay us the difference in taxes.
  10. Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?
     
    Accumulated goodwill for George Miller + Nerd Triumphalism= Oscar nomination.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    At least Eve Ensler got trolled pretty hard.
    , @Richard of Melbourne
    I couldn't agree more. If Fury Road is one of the nine best films of the year then Hollywood is in trouble. And for my money the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment (it was shot just outside my home town, as it happens).

    But more importantly: someone has to invent an award to give to Charlotte Rampling. Perhaps a "Golden Scrotum" for ballsiest statement by a figure in the entertainment industry?
  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Donald Trump just promoted a Nazi Twitter account that showed him gassing Bernie Sanders”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trump-just-retweeted-a-white-supremacist-just-to-get-a-dig-on-jeb-bush

    GOP front runner Donald Trump has been accused of racism in the past, but on Friday morning, Trump retweeted a white supremacist website promoting Adolf Hitler.

    The tweet was a jab at rival, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and showed him looking down-and-out, holding a “Vote Trump” sign.

    The tweet originated from an account called @WhiteGenocideTM, which is promoting a pro-Hitler movie called, The Greatest Story Never Told. The trailer for the film calls Hitler the “saviour of Europe.” The website also includes an interview with Holocaust-denier Ursula Haverbeck.

    One of the many troubling tweets from the account is an animated picture of Donald Trump dressed as a Nazi, about to gas potential Democratic rival Sen. Bernie Sanders. Sanders is Jewish.

    The Twitter account is littered with anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim rhetoric and lists its location as “Jewmerica.” Its “pinned” or featured tweet shows a man saying he is Jewish, with a yellow Star of David with the word “Jude” added on.

    Trump tweeted the image of Bush with the racist twitter handle to his nearly 6 million followers Friday morning. It’s not the first time Trump has been associated with the fascist leader of Nazi Germany who was responsible for genocide against millions of Jewish people and other groups.

    Last month, a Trump fan page attributed a quote by Hitler to Trump, inscribing the words, “As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice” on the image of Trump. The sentence was part of a 1922 speech by Hitler in Munich.

    Long before Trump hit the campaign trail, his ex-wife, Ivana, told Vanity Fair in a 1990 interview that Trump kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches on his night stand by his bed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What a scumbag.
    , @SFG
    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn't bode well for his presidency).

    It's actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

  12. @Anon7
    Maybe Ta-nehisi Coates could work it into his new reparations plan/argument:

    Reparations is not one possible tool against white supremacy. It is the indispensable tool against white supremacy.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/
     
    For example, we could agree to have only black winners for some period of time. Hopefully, we could pay it off sooner that way, rather than by offering just a few winners per year or offering a larger pool of nominees.

    This is Ta-Nehisi Coates’ argument in a nutshell:

    #1 – Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.
    #2 – Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,
    #3 – And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,
    #4 – The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    It really is a rebound off feminism in the ’70’s, come to think of it.

    • Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows
    How does he explain the historical, worldwide difference in achievements between whites and blacks?

    Does he think throughout the centuries whites dispatched special forces into black countries to "oppress" them and make sure there was no Shakespeare, Edison, or Ford?

    PS: Thanks for the Rampling pics and videos, Steve. My lord.

    , @iffen
    I have read a few of the pieces by TNC and I disagree with what you have written.

    #1 – Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Anytime this is referenced it is because whites have “crippled “ the efforts of blacks. Black slavery created the modern world so the modern world is a black creation.

    #2 – Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,


    Blacks and whites are eternally different. White owners – black slaves created an eternal dynamic.

    #3 – And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,

    There is nothing wrong with black culture because “wrong” has been defined by whites. Running away from slavery was defined as a crime, therefore, raping and slicing up 80 year old grandmothers are not criminal acts because being black is used to define what is crime.

    #4 – The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Nowhere (that I have read) does he expressly or implicitly say that reparations will cause the disparate criminal behavior (which doesn’t exist in the first place) of blacks to go away. Reparations are eternal. It is an indemnity to be paid forever by whites to blacks.
    , @Anon7
    "...The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group."

    Conditions for whites are rapidly deteriorating; single motherhood rates, heroin addiction rates, dropping out from the job market, etc. Perhaps if we decline far enough, your last condition will be fulfilled, i.e., blacks perform as well (or as poorly) as whites.

    One more reason to enjoy the decline!
  13. @Anonymous
    Was your neighbor the Odd Job guy? He wasn't Mr. Miyagi right? He wasn't very intimidating.

    Was your neighbor in Bloodsport? There were a lot of action movies in the 80s with martial arts and Asian villains. Your neighbor must have had a lot of work then.

    He wasn’t up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986’s “Big Trouble in Little China” (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he’s in early fight scenes as a “Wing Kong Hatchet Man.” He’s on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS …) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    One of Kim Cattrall's better '80s movies.
    , @TWS
    The Rock is too big. Kurt Russell is normal guy size. Can you imagine watching a bunch of Oriental guys trying to kick the Rock's ass? How many are as big as Toru Tanaka or Fuji?

    Kurt could sell a punch from a guy the size of Jackie Chan. The Rock is good but his best fight scene ever was the beginning of 'The Run Down' with five or six really big men. They'd have to hire wrestlers to play all the Oriental baddies.

    Johnson looks like he could crush any of the guys from 'Big Trouble' just by sharing an elevator with them.
    , @Percy Gryce

    Uncle Chu: China is here, Mr. Burton. The Chang Sing, the Wing Kong, they've been fighting for centuries.
     
    BTILC, one of my favorite movies from the '80s.
    , @Anonymous
    I was too young when it came out in the 80s to see it then. I didn't know it died at the box office. It's a cult classic now, like most of Carpenter's movies.
    , @Clyde
    They was kung fu fighting
    , @dried peanuts
    the candy bar guy from Die Hard?
    , @Thomas Fuller
    I bet you were conscientious about returning them when you'd borrowed his hedgeclippers.
    , @Brutusale
    Al Leong or William Wong?
    , @Kyussopeth
    As a kid of the 80's Big Trouble was by far my favorite action movie of the decade. It made me laugh more than any comedy of the 80's not named "Top Secret". I never understood why it didn't make more money at the box office.
    , @Charlesz Martel
    From what I remember seeing somewhere at the time, "Big Trouble in Little China" was originally written as the sequel to "Buckaroo Banzai", another movie that majorly flopped at the Box Office. It was essentially incomprehensible if you hadn't read the comic book.

    Looks like the anti-white movement is moving into the "revolution is starting to eat its' own" phase. The Reign of Terror in France, Stalin's show trials stage. It'll be curious to see how long it'll take for a white backlash to start to grow into a political movement. {Usually, it takes a lot longer than I think it will.}. Hollywood is not going to like having it's casting decisions dictated to it. They like controlling their own bottom line. We'll see how long the marriage between Hollywood and the left holds. I expect Silicon Valley to come under increasing fire for their lack of diversity- another big funding source for leftist insanity.

    Finally, I met Charlotte Rampling years ago at a party in France. She was around 26 or 27 at the time. Nice, smart, very independent thinker- and easy on the eyes, too! Her companion was a mulatto clothing designer, I forget his name. Might have been French-Algerian. I believe he was gay, if memory serves. I don't think she's a racist in any way- just a realist who's used to speaking truth to power. I see that the studio's are pressuring her to walk back her comments. We'll see if anything comes from it. Last I saw the studios were caving quickly.
  14. It never seems to dawn on white liberals that affirmative action may be bad news for them personally. For every black person who gets an award, some white person (wrongly or rightly) has to miss out – everyone can’t get a prize.

    In fact, I’d say that white liberals females probably suffer more from affirmative action that any other group, especially since they over-represented among those trying to get into popular professions (like acting) where supply greatly exceeds demand.

  15. the average active movie career of actresses is shorter than the average movie career of actors, at least if they don’t have the bone structure of Charlotte Rampling.

    Exquisite high bone structure to be exact and with a cruel or intriguing mouth. Feminine but with an underlying yang streak. Guys must see photos of her when she was in her 20s and 30s (year old) movies like the Night Porter. I am not surprised she spoke out and God bless her for doing so while the white guys cringe and duck for cover.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    There were several years where she was the sexiest woman on the planet.
  16. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    One of Kim Cattrall’s better ’80s movies.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Kim Cattrall was gorgeous in Mannequin.
  17. It is coming into being, the most admired people in this world will be those that speak the truth. There is something about the sound of truth that warms my heart and lifts my spirit when ever I hear it. It is like a breath of fresh air after many long years living in a cave.

  18. @George
    Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?

    Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?

    Accumulated goodwill for George Miller + Nerd Triumphalism= Oscar nomination.

  19. Rampling is already backing away from some comments.
    Check Hollywood Reporter.

  20. Leftist conservative [AKA "GOD ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ"] says:

    she is the widow of a communications tycoon, and so she has no need for money…I guess that kind of courage comes easier when you have a fat bank account.

  21. RE: Charlotte Rampling,

    Some good genes there. Her father was an Olympic athlete:

    Godfrey Lionel Rampling (14 May 1909 – 20 June 2009) was an English athlete and army officer who competed for Great Britain in the 1932 Summer Olympics and in the 1936 Summer Olympics. He turned 100 on 14 May 2009 and was the oldest living British Olympian.

    At the 1932 Summer Olympics, Rampling was fourth in his semifinal in the individual 400 metre event and didn’t reach the final, but ran the anchor leg to help the British 4×400 m relay team win the silver medal, behind the United States.

    At the 1934 British Empire Games in London, Rampling won the 440 yd (400 m), and helped the English 4×440 yards relay team to capture the gold medal.

    At the 1936 Berlin Olympics, Rampling was again fourth in the semifinals of 400 metre competition and ran the second leg in the gold medal winning British 4×400 m relay team.

    Rampling was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Royal Artillery, attached to NATO, until retiring in 1958 after 29 years service.[2] His daughter Charlotte is a noted film actress. He was, as of October 2007, the last surviving male athletics medallist from the 1932 Summer Olympics and the last male gold medallist in athletics from the 1936 Summer Olympics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_Rampling

  22. @George
    Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?

    At least Eve Ensler got trolled pretty hard.

  23. @George
    Can someone explain how in the meritocracy that is the motion picture academy Mad Max 4: Fury Road got nominated for best picture?

    I couldn’t agree more. If Fury Road is one of the nine best films of the year then Hollywood is in trouble. And for my money the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment (it was shot just outside my home town, as it happens).

    But more importantly: someone has to invent an award to give to Charlotte Rampling. Perhaps a “Golden Scrotum” for ballsiest statement by a figure in the entertainment industry?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Richard of Melbourne, "Fury Road" was on my cable offerings and I watched it. Has to be one of the lamest movies I have ever seen. There can't be more than 100 lines of dialogue in the whole movie and none more than a few short words or chants. It was like watching a Moto-cross race of bizarre vehicles across a vast wilderness. I would, however, nominate for an Oscar, the techies who managed to keep the dust out of the camera lenses. And, as to your remarks on Ms. Ramplings' ballsieness, she can probably borrow Bruce Jenner's nuts as he no longer needs or wants them.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment

    When you say "the first," do you mean Mad Max (1979) instead of The Road Warrior (1981), which most people think of as the Mad Max movie? I would agree that Mad Max was better than Fury Road, but to me The Road Warrior is true perfection. Somehow, in Fury Road, Max had turned into one of those guys you see in advertisements who has to be schooled by women.
  24. How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.
     
    Dunno, seems to me that the West did a lot to earn its primacy: Isaac Newton, Einstein, James Watt, Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, Gauss, Archimedes, Darwin, Shakespeare, Hume, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, .....
    , @Another Canadian

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

     

    I'd say we gave a couple of things to civilisation over the centuries...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlQZyTF_LY


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIoTpeM6o2A


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZEtVbJT5c
    , @ben tillman

    You guys are going to get back what you gave.
     
    We're going to receive technological wonders beyond our wildest dreams? Well, that should be great fun! Do step it up a bit!
    , @SFG
    Floods of immigrants hostile to the West might do it, but black people at the Oscars? Who cares?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Nigh, I know you might not believe this, but at birth white children are not gifted with a lifetime clean bill of health, automatic high school diploma, a letter of acceptance into their college of choice, a great job offer and a white privilege card all stapled to their birth certificate.
    , @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames?

    As the most foremost black intellectual, I resent that, sir!
    , @Pontius
    That might just pay off the national debt.
  25. Well, the Academy has done just what we suspected–backed down. I suspect Steve is preparing a post on it.

  26. The Oscars aren’t exactly the ultimate indicator of quality cinema but I can at assume that most of the nominated movies aren’t going to be trash (propaganda aside).

    Q. He [Spike] explains that he wants to instate quotas for minorities in American cinema so that they can make it into the selection.

    In other words, Spike is saying that minorities in cinema aren’t even in the same level as whites and thus need to cheat (affirmative action) to win awards.

    A. Yes. We can never know if it’s really the case. Sometimes maybe black actors didn’t deserve to make the shortlist.

    Hell yeah. She gets it.

  27. It’s so weird. I saw this story earlier today as one of Google’s featured headlines, and I had the same recurring thought that I’ve been having for the last few months: The world is becoming a lot more like Taki’s Magazine rather than the other way around. Wow. Just two or three years ago, I never would’ve thought that possible. Let’s hope it can continue.

  28. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    Dunno, seems to me that the West did a lot to earn its primacy: Isaac Newton, Einstein, James Watt, Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, Gauss, Archimedes, Darwin, Shakespeare, Hume, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, …..

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Oh yeah? But have you white guys done lately, huh?
  29. @Anon7
    Maybe Ta-nehisi Coates could work it into his new reparations plan/argument:

    Reparations is not one possible tool against white supremacy. It is the indispensable tool against white supremacy.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/
     
    For example, we could agree to have only black winners for some period of time. Hopefully, we could pay it off sooner that way, rather than by offering just a few winners per year or offering a larger pool of nominees.

    One problem with Reparations, or purposely diversifying the Oscars, is that it entails admitting guilt, and then the claims will never end. The plaintiffs here are a group that has no intention of letting any agreement end their complaining.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    … problem … the claims will never end.
     
    Problem? Who whom?
  30. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump just promoted a Nazi Twitter account that showed him gassing Bernie Sanders"

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trump-just-retweeted-a-white-supremacist-just-to-get-a-dig-on-jeb-bush

    GOP front runner Donald Trump has been accused of racism in the past, but on Friday morning, Trump retweeted a white supremacist website promoting Adolf Hitler.

    The tweet was a jab at rival, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and showed him looking down-and-out, holding a “Vote Trump” sign.

    The tweet originated from an account called @WhiteGenocideTM, which is promoting a pro-Hitler movie called, The Greatest Story Never Told. The trailer for the film calls Hitler the “saviour of Europe.” The website also includes an interview with Holocaust-denier Ursula Haverbeck.

    One of the many troubling tweets from the account is an animated picture of Donald Trump dressed as a Nazi, about to gas potential Democratic rival Sen. Bernie Sanders. Sanders is Jewish.

    The Twitter account is littered with anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim rhetoric and lists its location as “Jewmerica.” Its “pinned” or featured tweet shows a man saying he is Jewish, with a yellow Star of David with the word “Jude” added on.

    Trump tweeted the image of Bush with the racist twitter handle to his nearly 6 million followers Friday morning. It’s not the first time Trump has been associated with the fascist leader of Nazi Germany who was responsible for genocide against millions of Jewish people and other groups.

    Last month, a Trump fan page attributed a quote by Hitler to Trump, inscribing the words, “As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice” on the image of Trump. The sentence was part of a 1922 speech by Hitler in Munich.

    Long before Trump hit the campaign trail, his ex-wife, Ivana, told Vanity Fair in a 1990 interview that Trump kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches on his night stand by his bed.
     

    What a scumbag.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    Conversing with one's self in public venues is often an indication of severe mental problems. I hope you seek appropriate help.
    , @ben tillman

    What a scumbag.
     
    Who? You didn't even name the author of the article you cited.
  31. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump just promoted a Nazi Twitter account that showed him gassing Bernie Sanders"

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trump-just-retweeted-a-white-supremacist-just-to-get-a-dig-on-jeb-bush

    GOP front runner Donald Trump has been accused of racism in the past, but on Friday morning, Trump retweeted a white supremacist website promoting Adolf Hitler.

    The tweet was a jab at rival, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and showed him looking down-and-out, holding a “Vote Trump” sign.

    The tweet originated from an account called @WhiteGenocideTM, which is promoting a pro-Hitler movie called, The Greatest Story Never Told. The trailer for the film calls Hitler the “saviour of Europe.” The website also includes an interview with Holocaust-denier Ursula Haverbeck.

    One of the many troubling tweets from the account is an animated picture of Donald Trump dressed as a Nazi, about to gas potential Democratic rival Sen. Bernie Sanders. Sanders is Jewish.

    The Twitter account is littered with anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim rhetoric and lists its location as “Jewmerica.” Its “pinned” or featured tweet shows a man saying he is Jewish, with a yellow Star of David with the word “Jude” added on.

    Trump tweeted the image of Bush with the racist twitter handle to his nearly 6 million followers Friday morning. It’s not the first time Trump has been associated with the fascist leader of Nazi Germany who was responsible for genocide against millions of Jewish people and other groups.

    Last month, a Trump fan page attributed a quote by Hitler to Trump, inscribing the words, “As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice” on the image of Trump. The sentence was part of a 1922 speech by Hitler in Munich.

    Long before Trump hit the campaign trail, his ex-wife, Ivana, told Vanity Fair in a 1990 interview that Trump kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches on his night stand by his bed.
     

    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn’t bode well for his presidency).

    It’s actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You don't think promoting neo-Nazis who have images of him gassing Bernie Sanders is being nasty to Jews?
    , @Judah Benjamin Hur

    He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy
     
    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.
    , @Anonymous
    Hitler himself was of the E1b Y-chromosome haplogroup, so ironically Trump's family connections might not make him less Nazi:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html
  32. Steve, everybody knows your guy. He was “Indo” from Lethal Weapon and “candy guy” from Die Hard, right? Grew a nice beard for a Japanese guy (or was that always fake?).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    No, actually not.
  33. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump Retweets Apparent Neo-Nazi Supporter"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-tweets-apparent-neo-nazi-supporter-n502136

    Donald Trump on Friday retweeted what appears to be a neo-Nazi Twitter account that posted a photoshopped picture mocking rival Jeb Bush.

    The tweet by user "@WhiteGenocideTM" featured an image of Bush dressed as a panhandler outside Trump Tower with a "Vote Trump" sign.

    WhiteGenocideTM's profile picture is an image of George Lincoln Rockwell, the infamous founder of the American Nazi Party, with the caption "The Man Who Wants To Be Hitler." His listed location is "Jewmerica."

    An additional banner image on his profile reads: "GET THE F— OUT OF MY COUNTRY." Recent tweets and retweets from the account include anti-Semitic imagery, quotes from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and tweets deriding Martin Luther King Jr. The profile also listed a link to a website promoting a biographical documentary of Adolf Hitler.

    Trump, whose Twitter account is a central piece of his messaging operation, with more than 5 million followers, has passed on tweets from users who espouse white supremacist and openly racist causes in the past.
     

    In other news, Trump says he likes oatmeal – just like Hitler.

    • Replies: @Wally
    Since Hitler was a vegetarian all vegetarians are neo-Nazis.
  34. How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    Dunno, seems to me that the West did a lot to earn its primacy: Isaac Newton, Einstein, James Watt, Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, Gauss, Archimedes, Darwin, Shakespeare, Hume, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, …..

    I’d be relieved if I thought non-whites were going to reciprocate whites’ behavior toward them over the last however many years. Alas, I’m not so optimistic.

  35. @Svigor
    Steve, everybody knows your guy. He was "Indo" from Lethal Weapon and "candy guy" from Die Hard, right? Grew a nice beard for a Japanese guy (or was that always fake?).

    No, actually not.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0939398
  36. @Colleen Pater
    they should simply add a best black actor category so every year there will be a black winning the best black actor award and someone who happens to be white winning the best actor award.

    Actually, they need 2 new awards, one for black males, one for black females. Call them the Step-in Fetchit award and the Butterfly McQueen statue.

  37. Next year the winner for best movie will be ‘Big Momma’s house 9’, with Queen Latifah winning best actress and Ludicrous (unironic) winning best actor.

  38. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump Retweets Apparent Neo-Nazi Supporter"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-tweets-apparent-neo-nazi-supporter-n502136

    Donald Trump on Friday retweeted what appears to be a neo-Nazi Twitter account that posted a photoshopped picture mocking rival Jeb Bush.

    The tweet by user "@WhiteGenocideTM" featured an image of Bush dressed as a panhandler outside Trump Tower with a "Vote Trump" sign.

    WhiteGenocideTM's profile picture is an image of George Lincoln Rockwell, the infamous founder of the American Nazi Party, with the caption "The Man Who Wants To Be Hitler." His listed location is "Jewmerica."

    An additional banner image on his profile reads: "GET THE F— OUT OF MY COUNTRY." Recent tweets and retweets from the account include anti-Semitic imagery, quotes from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and tweets deriding Martin Luther King Jr. The profile also listed a link to a website promoting a biographical documentary of Adolf Hitler.

    Trump, whose Twitter account is a central piece of his messaging operation, with more than 5 million followers, has passed on tweets from users who espouse white supremacist and openly racist causes in the past.
     

    Quelle horreur!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yeah, we get it. You're a neo-Nazi.
  39. > Charlotte Rampling, an Academy Award nominee for best actress, on Friday waded into the furor over the lack of diversity in the Oscar acting categories, saying that the supposed calls to boycott the ceremony were “racist against whites.”

    Strange word choice, “supposed”. Timeswoman Donadio is signaling that only a has-been loser would whine about a boycott that may not even be real. Or so I suppose.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  40. @Anonymous
    What a scumbag.

    Conversing with one’s self in public venues is often an indication of severe mental problems. I hope you seek appropriate help.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Speak for yourself. Wasn't me.
  41. @Anon7
    Maybe Ta-nehisi Coates could work it into his new reparations plan/argument:

    Reparations is not one possible tool against white supremacy. It is the indispensable tool against white supremacy.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/
     
    For example, we could agree to have only black winners for some period of time. Hopefully, we could pay it off sooner that way, rather than by offering just a few winners per year or offering a larger pool of nominees.

    What I thought went unmentioned in TNC’s piece on Sanders’ support for some long-shot legislative proposals and not reparations is this: Sanders – and silently, many leftists – actually believe things like universal healthcare would work if put into place no matter how remote the odds, but don’t feel the same about reparations.

    Having worked in Democratic politics and having discussed reparations with left leaning friends, although there are some that think reparations should be granted, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks they would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    I have yet to meet anyone who thinks [reparations paid to blacks for slavery] would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.
     
    Everybody knows the deal. Long term—and we're talking weeks here—the only people who would benefit from "reparations" are Cadillac dealers.
    , @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)
    , @Anon7
    I don't think Bernie picked Vermont as a place to live by accident. A fair reparations scheme would require that 98% white Vermont would need to pony up about ten percent of their land and assets to get to national parity. 75 percent of Vermonters own guns and kind of scrape along in rural settings; I don't think that reparations will work there.
  42. @SFG
    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn't bode well for his presidency).

    It's actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

    You don’t think promoting neo-Nazis who have images of him gassing Bernie Sanders is being nasty to Jews?

    • Replies: @SFG
    Ah, but that's the thing. He's not promoting *that*, he's promoting some tweet that makes fun of Jeb Bush.

    Give the guy some credit.
  43. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Conversing with one's self in public venues is often an indication of severe mental problems. I hope you seek appropriate help.

    Speak for yourself. Wasn’t me.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Thanks for clarifying that you're not the Anonymous who said what another Anonymous said. We try to keep our Anonymouses straight around here, as challenging as that may be.
  44. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    The Rock is too big. Kurt Russell is normal guy size. Can you imagine watching a bunch of Oriental guys trying to kick the Rock’s ass? How many are as big as Toru Tanaka or Fuji?

    Kurt could sell a punch from a guy the size of Jackie Chan. The Rock is good but his best fight scene ever was the beginning of ‘The Run Down’ with five or six really big men. They’d have to hire wrestlers to play all the Oriental baddies.

    Johnson looks like he could crush any of the guys from ‘Big Trouble’ just by sharing an elevator with them.

  45. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Quelle horreur!

    Yeah, we get it. You’re a neo-Nazi.

    • Replies: @SFG
    You must be new here.
  46. Despite the controversy black actors have been won Oscars in line with the percentage of the population.

    View post on imgur.com

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @George Glass
    The problem with using U.S. demographics is that there are many foreign actors like Charlotte Rampling nominated for white roles. Especially from Canada and the United Kingdom. The one foreign black actor here is Lupita Nyong'o. So American black actors could be heavily over represented compared with American white actors.
  47. It is possible that after taking into consideration all the sacrifices whites have made to the betterment of African-Americans, blacks will end up owing whites reparations. That ought to go over real well with Will Smith.

  48. @syonredux

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.
     
    Dunno, seems to me that the West did a lot to earn its primacy: Isaac Newton, Einstein, James Watt, Thomas Edison, the Wright Bros, Gauss, Archimedes, Darwin, Shakespeare, Hume, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, .....

    Oh yeah? But have you white guys done lately, huh?

    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    "What have you guys done lately?"

    Goddard - Rockets
    Lavoisier- quantitative chemistry
    Mendeleev - Periodic Table
    J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch - nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg - QM
    Erwin Schrodinger - QM
    Dirac - QM
    Einstein - Special & General Relativity
    Hubble - size of universe, Big Bang
    Glashow, Salam, Weinberg - Standard Model of Particle Physics
    Edison - electric light, recording
    Bell - Telephone
    Ford - mass production
    Fessenden - radio
    Turing - computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener - continental drift
    Fermi - nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Szent Gyorgyi and Krebs - citric acid/Krebs cycle
    Crick - DNA
    Borlaug - Green Revolution
    Shannon - Information Theory
    Shockley - transistor
    Backus - Fortran
    Thompson - UNIX
    Ritchie - C
    Codd - Relational Databases
    Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn - Internet-TCP
    Tim Berners Lee - WWW, Browser
  49. Are Spike Lee and Jada Smith trying to drive up Trump’s poll numbers?

    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.
  50. Dang, now I gotta go back and watch BTiLC again.

    P.S., have you noticed the Asian Redneck in the scene you mentioned? I assume he’s not your neighbor.

  51. @Arclight
    What I thought went unmentioned in TNC's piece on Sanders' support for some long-shot legislative proposals and not reparations is this: Sanders - and silently, many leftists - actually believe things like universal healthcare would work if put into place no matter how remote the odds, but don't feel the same about reparations.

    Having worked in Democratic politics and having discussed reparations with left leaning friends, although there are some that think reparations should be granted, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks they would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.

    I have yet to meet anyone who thinks [reparations paid to blacks for slavery] would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.

    Everybody knows the deal. Long term—and we’re talking weeks here—the only people who would benefit from “reparations” are Cadillac dealers.

  52. @Dave Pinsen
    One of Kim Cattrall's better '80s movies.

    Kim Cattrall was gorgeous in Mannequin.

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything.
  53. @SFG
    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn't bode well for his presidency).

    It's actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

    He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy

    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.
     
    Two of John Updike's children married Africans. At least Trump's grandchildren have a shot at looking somewhat like him.
  54. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    Uncle Chu: China is here, Mr. Burton. The Chang Sing, the Wing Kong, they’ve been fighting for centuries.

    BTILC, one of my favorite movies from the ’80s.

  55. @SFG
    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn't bode well for his presidency).

    It's actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The earlier kevlar helmet looked more like it. They shortened the helmets a few years ago, because the body armor was running up against the back of them when soldiers were in prone positions.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Nazis had really cool uniforms.
     
    Tom of Finland thought so:

    http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/finlands-new-stamps-are-really-really-gay-1563230780
    , @SFG
    Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.

    Still, a lot of that is Hollywood making movies about Nazis. And when you put charismatic actors in a role, that role becomes attractive, even if villainous. Look at Pacino in Scarface, or Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Stockbrokers were imitating him, even though he was the bad guy.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I've visited a number of World War II museums and read quite a few books containing photographs. I've always thought that the German Army and the Waffen SS (the National Socialist German Workers Party had its own brown uniform) had the snazziest field grey uniforms. They fought in a bad cause, of course, but they were well-dressed doing so.
  56. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    If blacks think they’re going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they’re naive. Even if they fill the Oscar panels with blacks who nominate nothing but black films, whites will simply migrate away to create another award that garners all the prestige, exactly the way white liberals pay lip service to blacks but physically segregate themselves in reality.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    If blacks think they’re going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they’re naive.
     
    If you think sobbing, crying, and complaining US black grievance can't completely flip the US justice system, and university system, and the US presidency, you are naive. The crappy movie awards is small potatoes on that trophy list.
    , @David
    That is the boot stomping on your face forever.

    When whites start a new club, the boot will find it.
    , @Formerly CARealist
    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?
    , @Andrew Jackson
    Agreed. I point this out all of the time. Or put another way: "Those people will ruin anything," which is why a place like Yale needs to be careful people don't start thinking of it the way we now think of HBCUs.

    But what is happening is we are moving into an era which we can label "post white-guilt." The cries of waaay-cism and for more representation are falling on increasingly deaf ears, not because whites are becoming more racist, but because white guilt is becoming increasingly assuaged. The feeling is that enough has been done and the whining won't stop.

    The liberals haven't figured this out yet. But they will and their tactics will change. The sense is though that the primary obstacles facing an intelligent well-socialized black comes from his own people rather than from "White Supremacy," and the increasingly byzantine efforts involved in seeing that rare intelligent well-socialized black be given a "fair opportunity" are no longer worth the cost to white people forced to endure black dysfunction without recourse to justice.
  57. @Steve Sailer
    No, actually not.
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    I think you have the wong actor.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756827/
  58. This Black/White divergence at the Oscars is really just the tip of Tinseltown’s inequality iceberg.

    In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What’s up with that, Spike?

    As for ‘patterns of racial discrimination’, consider how relatively invisible Asians and even Hispanics remain in Hollywood compared to Blacks. Time for a class-action suit, perhaps?

    Plus, a lot of viewers find blacks visually ‘unappealing’. Shouldn’t this matter?

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood. Why should Africans get a mandatory pass?

    Shouldn’t we demand proportional representation for ugly Whites then?

    Plus, there are very few fat chicks or old babes on TV or in film. This persistent disparity will be very difficult to address. It may therefore require government action. Call out the National Guard!

    Indeed, since people (viewers) prefer attractive people over old and ugly (and primitive) people, excessive black visibility in TV and film constitutes an assault on ‘choice’ and even free markets. Beautiful lives matter, too!

    What America needs is an actual reduction in Black entertainers. Let Freedom ring!

    Lastly, the vast over-representation of Jews in Hollywood must be confronted if we are going to start imposing ethnic and racial quotas anywhere in the entertainment industry. Ha! This could get very interesting.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood.
     
    Yes, but they have Washington to themselves.
    , @conatus
    Great point!
    "In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What’s up with that, Spike? "

    The average American sucking on his Bud and watching football and sitcoms thinks Blacks are 33% of the total population. Why? Because they are everywhere in the media and on the tube they are usually represented as Doctors or academics and generally dripping with so much gravitas they barely crack a smile, at least in the commercials.

    "On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher. As many as 17% of Americans say the percentage of blacks is 50% or greater. Only 7% accurately state that the percentage of blacks falls between 10% and 14% of the entire population."

    from here:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/4435/public-overestimates-us-black-hispanic-populations.aspx
    , @ScarletNumber
    I think discrimination against the obese is even more pervasive.
  59. @Anonymous
    You don't think promoting neo-Nazis who have images of him gassing Bernie Sanders is being nasty to Jews?

    Ah, but that’s the thing. He’s not promoting *that*, he’s promoting some tweet that makes fun of Jeb Bush.

    Give the guy some credit.

  60. @Anonymous
    Yeah, we get it. You're a neo-Nazi.

    You must be new here.

  61. @Arclight
    What I thought went unmentioned in TNC's piece on Sanders' support for some long-shot legislative proposals and not reparations is this: Sanders - and silently, many leftists - actually believe things like universal healthcare would work if put into place no matter how remote the odds, but don't feel the same about reparations.

    Having worked in Democratic politics and having discussed reparations with left leaning friends, although there are some that think reparations should be granted, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks they would actually result in real changes in the fortunes of black Americans as a group.

    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies…though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Universal healthcare works in lots of places.
     
    As does an established state church.

    Funny how homogeneous all of those places are. Evil minds might imagine some connection.
    , @Former Darfur
    Reparations would go a long way as long as the reparatees also go a long way-a long way away.

    Reparation, but no reparation without separation.
    You take the money, you get on the jet, and you never come back.
    , @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.
    , @(((Owen)))
    "Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high)."

    American low tax rates are a myth. If you include state income and sales taxes and mandatory health care insurance as a tax, it adds up to a higher rate than most of the European and Asian first world welfare states oblige their citizens to pay. Belgium and Denmark may match US style rates -- though very few pay those rates -- but England, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, and Italy have distinctly lower total rates at every income level.

    And the USA doesn't just have pretty high corporate rates. The USA has the highest corporate income tax rates in any first world nation. Japan used to be a tiny bit higher but PM Abe reformed the system because it was choking businesses and jobs.
  62. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    I was too young when it came out in the 80s to see it then. I didn’t know it died at the box office. It’s a cult classic now, like most of Carpenter’s movies.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It didn't do much for me as a movie, but I suspect it works better for guys who grew up on video games.
  63. She’s not too familiar with the current Hollywood climate, or she really doesn’t care. I bet everyone’s publicist is working this problem out now ->

    ‘Say something like, “It’s unfortunate that there aren’t the opportunities for a diverse group of actors…. blah blah blah… But I don’t know that the Academy is the real problem here.. blah blah blah.” Use your improv skills to make it sound a little different every time, and say it with juuuust enough emphasis to let people know you are sincere but not too over the top.’

    Done! Give me my 5% now if you please.

  64. @Percy Gryce
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0939398

    I think you have the wong actor.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756827/

    • Agree: Percy Gryce, EriK
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That's quite the resume. He had appearances in many of the TV classics from all the way back to McHale's Navy to Dallas and Walker, Texas Ranger.
  65. OT: photo of a young Angela Merkel.

  66. People with blood type AB negative make up 1% of the population, but no Oscar has ever been won by an AB-negative actor or actress of the same noble blood type that Shakespeare gave Hamlet. This underrepresentation is a scandal, or should be.

  67. @Anonymous
    I was too young when it came out in the 80s to see it then. I didn't know it died at the box office. It's a cult classic now, like most of Carpenter's movies.

    It didn’t do much for me as a movie, but I suspect it works better for guys who grew up on video games.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yeah I grew up in the late 80s and 90s with Nintendo and Sega. I can imagine how it'd be too wacky and weird for older generations.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Not a video game fan at all, I saw it first run in the theater and loved it. It's the perfect Americanization of chopsocky--with Carpenter's signature dark style and Russell's signature humor.
  68. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    I’d say we gave a couple of things to civilisation over the centuries…

  69. 1304239

    In a Super Bowl commercial for Lipton Iced Tea, Bill’s friend David Carradine played a kung fu master, while Bill was a monk.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Very good! This must be Steve Sailer's karate chopping neighbor.
  70. @Jim Don Bob
    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.

    The earlier kevlar helmet looked more like it. They shortened the helmets a few years ago, because the body armor was running up against the back of them when soldiers were in prone positions.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    The German helmet also had shorter and longer versions, depending on the year. The 1916 version was really long, then in the 30s it was shorter, only to get a bit longer again during the war.
  71. @Anon
    If blacks think they're going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they're naive. Even if they fill the Oscar panels with blacks who nominate nothing but black films, whites will simply migrate away to create another award that garners all the prestige, exactly the way white liberals pay lip service to blacks but physically segregate themselves in reality.

    If blacks think they’re going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they’re naive.

    If you think sobbing, crying, and complaining US black grievance can’t completely flip the US justice system, and university system, and the US presidency, you are naive. The crappy movie awards is small potatoes on that trophy list.

    • Agree: Kylie, Clyde
  72. I look forward to the Trump campaign ads using these black white haters to drive the Trump vote!

  73. @MEH 0910
    I think you have the wong actor.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756827/

    That’s quite the resume. He had appearances in many of the TV classics from all the way back to McHale’s Navy to Dallas and Walker, Texas Ranger.

  74. @Steve Sailer
    It didn't do much for me as a movie, but I suspect it works better for guys who grew up on video games.

    Yeah I grew up in the late 80s and 90s with Nintendo and Sega. I can imagine how it’d be too wacky and weird for older generations.

  75. I’m puzzled why there isn’t a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr. With the world-wide fascination with African-American culture and with the ease of making movies today we don’t seem to have much more than Tyler Perry level successes.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    I’m puzzled why there isn’t a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr.
     
    Shaft was a good start, but then that got labeled Blaxploitation and became a no-no. Another case of the man keeping the blacks down.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiCB2isZcRM
    , @snorlax
    Not sure if he is anymore, but a few years ago Tyler Perry was ranked as the highest paid man in entertainment.
    , @Alec Leamas
    Gordy came to prominence before it was socially acceptable for blacks to be surly, resentful and angry and it was socially required for whites to publicly self-flagellate and gain status by pretending to understand black grievances better than bad whites. So Gordy had to make a sound that would have mass appeal - Early Motown isn't particularly black in its themes and the musicianship is very good. Radio helped too because a good tune can bypass the active decision-making process in that you hear it several times in the ambiance and come to like it before buying it.

    I think that insofar as it is a problem with Black representation in movies and awards (which is specious at best) the issue seems to be that when given the choice blacks rarely make movies about anything other than being black. And the theme is always one of white oppression and guilt tripping - no one ever seems to come at the black experience from any other perspective which might be the least bit fresh or interesting. Slavery/Racism/Apartheid/Urban Decay caused by Racism, overcoming all of the above but they're all as bad or worse than ever. Lather, rinse and repeat.

    People who aren't black just have a limited appetite for that sort of thing, and the world movie market even less.
  76. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    They was kung fu fighting

  77. From another LA Times piece: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-et-mn-oscars-reform-20160123-story.html

    The academy board, which Boone Isaacs said had been planning some of these changes for months, accelerated its schedule in response to the burgeoning crisis, approving the measures in an emergency meeting held at the academy’s Beverly Hills offices.

    “It was not difficult, and it did not take long,” Boone Isaacs said of the board’s vote. “The process here had already begun. Last Thursday [the day of the Oscar nominations], we really just kicked that into high gear. The conversation out there was raging.”

    Some “crisis”. Citing the current media cycle as something pushing you in the direction you already wanted to go — what else could you do? That’s the way the ratchet turns.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Sundance: Daniel Radcliffe’s Farting Corpse Movie Prompts Walk-Outs”

    https://variety.com/2016/film/news/daniel-radcliffe-farting-corpse-swiss-army-man-1201686756/

    “One of the most anticipated movies at this year’s Sundance Film Festival also turned out to be among the most divisive. On Friday afternoon, the Eccles Theater had to turn away hundreds of movie fans, and even a few industry VIPs, at the packed premiere of “Swiss Army Man,” starring Daniel Radcliffe and Paul Dano.

    But the bizarre fable about a lost man (Dano) who befriends a farting corpse (Radcliffe) could win the festival’s award for the most walk-outs, as a continuous stream of audience members kept standing up and bolting for the door throughout the film.”

  79. Funnily enough, the university protests, BLM and now this are just making Americans more conservative and less empathetic to blacks. The social liberals are living in a small bubble in medialand thinking the public actually sides with the blacks on this. In reality, if we were to poll the public (excluding blacks), support for this issue would be quite low. Amazing how the PC media bubble can make things seem what theyre not.

  80. Also Charlotte Rampling is beautiful. I’d never heard of her before now and I like to think I have a decent knowledge of film.

  81. @MEH 0910

    In a Super Bowl commercial for Lipton Iced Tea, Bill’s friend David Carradine played a kung fu master, while Bill was a monk.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZfZBilgZY

    Very good! This must be Steve Sailer’s karate chopping neighbor.

  82. @anony-mouse
    I'm puzzled why there isn't a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr. With the world-wide fascination with African-American culture and with the ease of making movies today we don't seem to have much more than Tyler Perry level successes.

    I’m puzzled why there isn’t a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr.

    Shaft was a good start, but then that got labeled Blaxploitation and became a no-no. Another case of the man keeping the blacks down.

  83. @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    Universal healthcare works in lots of places.

    As does an established state church.

    Funny how homogeneous all of those places are. Evil minds might imagine some connection.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    True. I don't think SFG disagrees with it.
  84. @Judah Benjamin Hur

    He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy
     
    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.

    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.

    Two of John Updike’s children married Africans. At least Trump’s grandchildren have a shot at looking somewhat like him.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Also don't forget given the overall ethnic variety in New York, the appearance gap between Germans and Ashkenazis (who are half Italian anyway even if purebred) isn't going to look that huge. And given the socioeconomic variety in New York...he probably figured he was giving them a leg up.
  85. @Jim Don Bob
    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.

    Nazis had really cool uniforms.

    Tom of Finland thought so:

    http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/finlands-new-stamps-are-really-really-gay-1563230780

  86. @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    Reparations would go a long way as long as the reparatees also go a long way-a long way away.

    Reparation, but no reparation without separation.
    You take the money, you get on the jet, and you never come back.

  87. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    We’re going to receive technological wonders beyond our wildest dreams? Well, that should be great fun! Do step it up a bit!

  88. Chelsea Clinton’s disgusting response: “Outrageous, ignorant & offensive comments from Rampling.”

  89. @Anon
    If blacks think they're going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they're naive. Even if they fill the Oscar panels with blacks who nominate nothing but black films, whites will simply migrate away to create another award that garners all the prestige, exactly the way white liberals pay lip service to blacks but physically segregate themselves in reality.

    That is the boot stomping on your face forever.

    When whites start a new club, the boot will find it.

  90. @Anonymous
    What a scumbag.

    What a scumbag.

    Who? You didn’t even name the author of the article you cited.

  91. @Honesthughgrant
    In other news, Trump says he likes oatmeal - just like Hitler.

    Since Hitler was a vegetarian all vegetarians are neo-Nazis.

  92. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    Floods of immigrants hostile to the West might do it, but black people at the Oscars? Who cares?

  93. @Jim Don Bob
    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.

    Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.

    Still, a lot of that is Hollywood making movies about Nazis. And when you put charismatic actors in a role, that role becomes attractive, even if villainous. Look at Pacino in Scarface, or Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Stockbrokers were imitating him, even though he was the bad guy.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.
    , @Steve Sailer
    "Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss."

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don't seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn't design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don't get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don't get being that blatant about it.
    , @Brutusale
    One of the funnier bits in the piece of holiday fluff from a few years ago, The Holiday, was the Jewish Hollywood writer, talked into accepting an award by Kate Winslet's character, needing a new suit for the ceremony. When Winslet went to meet him, he was resplendent in his new attire, and his comment was "I like this Hugo Boss. He cuts a nice suit!"
  94. @Reg Cæsar

    His son, Eric, married a Jew as well. Trump has 4 Jewish descendants & counting + 2 son/daughter in-laws.
     
    Two of John Updike's children married Africans. At least Trump's grandchildren have a shot at looking somewhat like him.

    Also don’t forget given the overall ethnic variety in New York, the appearance gap between Germans and Ashkenazis (who are half Italian anyway even if purebred) isn’t going to look that huge. And given the socioeconomic variety in New York…he probably figured he was giving them a leg up.

  95. @anony-mouse
    I'm puzzled why there isn't a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr. With the world-wide fascination with African-American culture and with the ease of making movies today we don't seem to have much more than Tyler Perry level successes.

    Not sure if he is anymore, but a few years ago Tyler Perry was ranked as the highest paid man in entertainment.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Tyler Perry is a healthy, well-adjusted Negro. He tells the stories of his people (his audiences) in a way that they love.

    Tyler Perry is not p!ssing and moaning about how the Shakespeare, NPR, and Masterpiece Theatre crowd at the Academy don't love him, watch his movies and give him awards.

    He took BT Washington's advice and "cast down his bucket" right where he was and makes entertaining movies. He is devoid of the desperate need for white affirmation, white approval, and white blessing that the Duboisian "Talented Tenth" are burdened with.

    And he has gotten rich.
  96. Charlotte Rampling once starred in Orca (1977), in which she and Richard Harris were terrorized by a (mostly-black) orca whale.

    Early in the film, the whale killed a great white shark. (This was a not-so-subtle jab at Jaws.) Later on, it made a snack out of one of Bo Derek’s legs.

    So Rampling has a history of empathizing with those who are terrorized by big ebony predators.

  97. Wasn’t Georgy Girl— the novel or the film– one of the last things put on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum?

    Now, thanks to Charlotte’s rambling, it will be on Hollywood’s own Index.

    • Replies: @5371
    Back in the day more than a few people fancied romping with Charlotte, rumpling her hair a bit ...
  98. @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the “hand surgeon”-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But….for 80% of the population it will work ‘just as well’. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    If you go back a few decades, English life expectancies were several years shorter than Americans. But then that changed ...
    , @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.
    , @JackOH
    America's unique way of thinking about health care is based on America's unique way of funding health care. The funding is trompe l'oeil stuff. Ask why even in America's most busted-up cities, the newest and shiniest buildings are often hospitals and doctors' offices, and how that can be possible, and what the meaning of it is. Ask how is it the $10 an hour janitor and $100 an hour executive will be enrolled in the same insurance group paying the same benefit.

    Our political leaders, journalists, and nearly all academics simply refuse to ask questions that suggest there's something really rotten at the core of health care. So we pretty much all end up with our leaders doing the socialized medicine vs. free markets boogie-woogie without anyone actually knowing what the terms of debate are. My guess is we'll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.
    , @SFG
    I'm not sure having less ambitious doctors is such a bad thing--I hear way too many things about MDs being pressured to do more procedures by their hospital or group to increase the bottom line. I'm sure you've heard about all the stents put in even though they didn't increase lifespan, or people being prescribed more expensive medications even though the old cheap diuretics worked just as well treating hypertension.

    Steve? Fancy medicine saved your life...

    , @Travis
    so true, people also forget that 110% of the drug firm profits are made in America....they lose money in Europe because of price controls...thus new drug treatments will not get developed if the US followed the European model

    another important factor , tort reform...in the UK if a doctor chops off the wrong limb, one is limited to damages of about $150,000. Germany and France have similar tort restrictions which restrict lawsuit damages due to negligence....killing a patient in Europe thus poses no downside financial risks to hospitals or doctors unlike in America. John Edwards earned $150 million suing doctors and hospital....he would have have made no money in Europe.

    our tort laws are another reason socialized medical care will not work in America and will bankrupt our system.

    in terms of life-expectancy, the United States does much better than the UK if you look at whites and exclude our large Black population from the data. Cancer survival rates are twice as high in America compared to the UK.
    , @Eric Novak
    My English friend of 27 years-my first girlfriend, in fact-was sent home a few days before Christmas, after an MRI revealed a cerebral aneurysm, 9mm in size. She experienced headache, burning smells, and blurred vision, beginning in Nov., so the aneurysm was growing in size at a regular rate and was not an asymptomatic, undiagnosed vascular bubble in her head for years. While awaiting word from the neuro unit of the NHS for a surgery date, her aneurysm increased in size from 9mm to 15mm, and with her vision worsening daily and headaches not responding to painkillers, her mother brought her to the ER for immediate surgical attention. This is a truly frightening example of the failure of redistributed health care. Every fool with the same insurance as everyone else thinks he or she is getting the best health care available, no matter the outcome. If doctors amputated a leg instead of a toe of a diabetic in a socialized health system, the gimp would be greatful. I am convinced socialized health care as it is in Europe and probably Canada is an huge lie.
  99. @bomag
    I understand Nigeria has a large movie industry; larger than Hollywood in some ways (number of movies). Maybe Spike can go over there and be a big hit and get all the glory he so richly deserves.

    also Nollywood awards should have a quota for south asian, east asian and white film makers

  100. @SFG
    Somehow I doubt the Nazi thing will stick to Trump. He must be counting his lucky stars he married his daughter off to that Orthodox guy, though I imagine it was a standard dynastic business marriage at the time.

    It is, of course, possible to admire the Nazis without holding far-right racial opinions, albeit not exactly socially acceptable. Lots of guys want to be fascist leaders, strutting around in jackboots to adoring crowds and having thugs crush their opposition, without holding any particular racial views. Nobody wants to admit it, but due at least in part to their demonization by Hollywood, fascists are sexy. (I will say it wouldn't bode well for his presidency).

    It's actually a fairly amusing experiment: if you say nasty things about every traditionally lefty group *except* Jews and gays, how far will you get?

    Apparently, at least to Iowa in the presidential race.

    Hitler himself was of the E1b Y-chromosome haplogroup, so ironically Trump’s family connections might not make him less Nazi:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html

    • Replies: @5371
    Pseudoscience.
    , @Anonymous
    E1b1b has a presence in Europe going back to the migration of Neolithic farmers from the Middle East around 10,000 years ago long before there were Jews. Even if the methodology of the study you cited had been other than junk, it wouldn't have proven any close linke to Jews or Africans. Furthermore, they tested Hitler-surnamed relatives, but Adolf Hitler's father was adopted. To prove a genetic relationship betwenn Adolf and Alois Hitler and the people they tested, they would first have to show that Alois Hitler shared that Y chromosome. Then consider that the main haplogroup in sub-Saharan African is E1a, not E1b, and that the split between them happened over 20,000 years ago before all of the phenotypic characteristics that define the races had developed. A total junk genetics study with a headline chosen to be maximally salacious - in other words, worthless clickbait.
  101. @Reg Cæsar
    Wasn't Georgy Girl-- the novel or the film-- one of the last things put on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum?

    Now, thanks to Charlotte's rambling, it will be on Hollywood's own Index.

    Back in the day more than a few people fancied romping with Charlotte, rumpling her hair a bit …

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Back in the day more than a few people fancied romping with Charlotte, rumpling her hair a bit …
     
    She looked remarkably toned at 56 for Swimming Pool.
  102. If you are on the film’s wavelength — as in someone who can appreciate action cinema — then it is perhaps the finest action film in over a decade, perhaps much longer. There’s a lot of old people who don’t “get it” though, in the sense that they would be more responsive to some drama set in 18th century England with heavy exposition and dialogue than to action thrillers.

    • Replies: @This Is Our Home

    If you are on the film’s wavelength — as in someone who can appreciate action cinema — then it is perhaps the finest action film in over a decade, perhaps much longer. There’s a lot of old people who don’t “get it” though, in the sense that they would be more responsive to some drama set in 18th century England with heavy exposition and dialogue than to action thrillers.
     
    If you are referring to the new Mad Max then I can tell you that I know of no-one my age who thought it was anything more than ok. Two out-of-shape middle-aged nerds were telling each other how it was the best film ever as we left the cinema though. They are essentially the butt of my jokey comments on the film and they always trigger a laugh.

    Also, I do not think that the Oscar voters skew young so from personal and general observations I think that you have gotten your argument the wrong way around.

    Perhaps it is that cars no longer play a big part in the aspirations of the young? Probably something to do with the fact that educated young people now struggle to afford a place to live nevermind a decent ride.
  103. @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    If you go back a few decades, English life expectancies were several years shorter than Americans. But then that changed …

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    Yeah, we have a lot more Mexican immigrants with type II diabetes now. I expect US life expectancy will go down now that Obamacare is here. Already the government has discovered that breast cancer screening and annual physicals are not "cost effective".
    , @PV van der Byl
    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?
  104. @Dave Pinsen
    The earlier kevlar helmet looked more like it. They shortened the helmets a few years ago, because the body armor was running up against the back of them when soldiers were in prone positions.

    The German helmet also had shorter and longer versions, depending on the year. The 1916 version was really long, then in the 30s it was shorter, only to get a bit longer again during the war.

  105. @SFG
    Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.

    Still, a lot of that is Hollywood making movies about Nazis. And when you put charismatic actors in a role, that role becomes attractive, even if villainous. Look at Pacino in Scarface, or Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Stockbrokers were imitating him, even though he was the bad guy.

    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    • Replies: @Abe

    I think [not] only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.
     
    Rock legends and royalty agree with you there:

    http://www.stryder.de/pics/stormtrooper.jpg
    http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/14219511/Lemmy-y-su-coleccion-nazi.html
    https://enigmachannel.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/prince-harry-nazi-9d6e1.jpg
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    "all German uniforms looked cool"

    The popular UK 70s sitcom Dad's Army (about the Home Guard, a volunteer corps of non-fighting age) has an episode where as part of an exercise they wear German uniform.

    Charlotte Rampling's most famous/notorious role was in The Night Porter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Porter

    "The Night Porter (Italian: Il portiere di notte) is a 1974 cult classic art film by Italian director Liliana Cavani, starring Dirk Bogarde and Charlotte Rampling featuring elements of Nazisploitation. Its themes of sexual and sadomasochistic obsession made it controversial at the time of release. "

    And way off topic, but the sneering UK lefty comic Mark Steel (can't stand him but the BBC love him), adopted son of a working class Kentish family, turns out to be the natural son of a Sephardic billionaire and world backgammon champion (I think it's Joe Dwek - did he buy Luther Vandross's house for $12m around 2010?). His natural mother's family turn out to be committed lefties too.

    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/27/mark-steel-finding-out-who-i-am


    "He says he had a revelation about inherited traits when he found a story about his father in a magazine gossip column. He and some friends were on a yacht in the Mediterranean when someone fell into the water, and he dived in to rescue him. Several years later, the man bumped into Mark’s father and said: “Aren’t you the former backgammon champion?” Quick as a flash, he said: “No, I’m the man who saved your life, you cunt.”

    Mark laughs and says: “Natasha said I must be his son; his response was funny, feisty and sweary – which, she says, describes me perfectly. I never knew there was a sweary gene, but I’ll take it.”

    Did Mark learn anything about himself in the process of writing the show. “I started off convinced that we’re formed by our environment and genetic makeup accounts for very little, but now I know that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny."
     

    Mr Steel used to be a big right-to-choose type, don't know if that's changed.

    "Mark emailed him (now living in the United States) and he responded. “He said he remembered Frances vividly but it was all a bit of a shock because he had made all the arrangements to have me dispensed with. But she took the money and didn’t go through with it, bless her.”"
     
    , @el topo
    "What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities."

    I've seen some of Hitler's artwork online and it is quite impressive. The whole line about him being a "failed artist" is, like so much that we have heard about him, rather misleading.
    , @dfordoom

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.
     
    People also don't like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn't too bad either. Fascism does have style.
  106. @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.

    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    • Replies: @penntothal
    Richardson died from a condition (an epidural hematoma) easily cured by a relatively common neurosurgery. She died many hours after her injury occurred. It was reported that the hospital she went to in Canada could not perform a simple CT scan of her head since it was not a government-designated "trauma hospital."

    Almost all hospitals in the U.S. (even rural ones) have CT scanners and are looking for reasons to use them.

    The result is that in the U.S. you might get an unnecessary CT scan. In Canada, you might die from a treatable condition that a CT scan would have detected.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    I don't think that the difference is in the emergency rooms--the difference is how much the first responders try to treat the injury at the scene, as opposed to seeking only to stabilize the patient and transport him or her as soon as possible. Either point of view has its defenders. From the little I know about Princess Diana, her internal injuries were so extensive and massive that only a miracle could have saved her. She did make it to the emergency room, but died there.

    Best advice: Always fasten your seat belt and shoulder harness! The fellow who did so in Princess Diana's car walked away from the crash.

    , @(((Owen)))
    America has the very best trauma medicine in the world, largely driven by military adventures that give the boys so many chances to see lots of interesting new wounds. One shouldn't discount the most dangerous highways and highest car crash injury rate among the developed nations that make a serious effort to keep victims alive, also.

    That's just one small part of why US health care is so expensive. I'd say it's one of the investments that's worth keeping. Most of the extra costs are not so valuable.
    , @PV van der Byl
    You also have to be able to get to an ER capable of dealing with serious brain injuries. From The American Spectator:

    DID CANADA’S UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE KILL NATASHA RICHARDSON?
    By Matthew Vadum on 3.21.09 | 8:44AM
    Did the fact that Canada has a socialist, government-run healthcare system --similar to the kind that President Obama wants to ram down the throats of Americans-- kill acclaimed actress Natasha Richardson?
    The short answer is yes, it may very well have done so.
    Regarding the case of the actress who fell on a ski slope at Mont Tremblant resort in Quebec, AP reports:
    As a steady stream of celebrities pay their last respects to Natasha Richardson, questions are arising over whether a medical helicopter might have been able to save the ailing actress.
    The province of Quebec lacks a medical helicopter system, common in the United States and other parts of Canada, to airlift stricken patients to major trauma centers. Montreal's top head trauma doctor said Friday that may have played a role in Richardson's death.
    "It's impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is ... driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city. Our system isn't set up for traumas and doesn't match what's available in other Canadian cities, let alone in the States," said Tarek Razek, director of trauma services for the McGill University Health Centre, which represents six of Montreal's hospitals.
    That's it in a nutshell. Socialized medicine, known by the euphemism universal healthcare, is about tightfisted government clerks rationing care.
    Think about the folks at the Department of Motor Vehicles making your healthcare decisions for you while you wait in line.
    Under government healthcare, faceless bureaucrats do not care if you live or die, as long as everyone receives equal treatment.
    Natasha Richardson received the same kind of treatment anyone in Quebec would have received, and now she's dead at the age of 45 because Quebec didn't have something as basic as a medical helicopter system.
     
    http://spectator.org/blog/18082/did-canadas-universal-health-care-kill-natasha-richardson
    , @PV van der Byl
    The relevant grafs from AP coverage at the time of Natasha Richardson's death:

    The province of Quebec lacks a medical helicopter system, common in the United States and other parts of Canada, to airlift stricken patients to major trauma centers. Montreal's top head trauma doctor said Friday that may have played a role in Richardson's death.
    "It's impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is ... driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city. Our system isn't set up for traumas and doesn't match what's available in other Canadian cities, let alone in the States," said Tarek Razek, director of trauma services for the McGill University Health Centre, which represents six of Montreal's hospitals.
     
  107. @Anonymous
    Hitler himself was of the E1b Y-chromosome haplogroup, so ironically Trump's family connections might not make him less Nazi:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html

    Pseudoscience.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's not pseudoscience. Haplogroups are a real thing and easy to determine.
  108. @reiner Tor
    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    I think [not] only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    Rock legends and royalty agree with you there:


    http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/14219511/Lemmy-y-su-coleccion-nazi.html

  109. Steve, Rush Limbaugh’s talked the past few days about the democrat party being the “party of the fringes,” the GOP being the party of white men. Wasn’t that description originally yours?

  110. @Reg Cæsar

    Universal healthcare works in lots of places.
     
    As does an established state church.

    Funny how homogeneous all of those places are. Evil minds might imagine some connection.

    True. I don’t think SFG disagrees with it.

  111. @SPMoore8
    This is Ta-Nehisi Coates' argument in a nutshell:

    #1 - Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.
    #2 - Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,
    #3 - And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,
    #4 - The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    It really is a rebound off feminism in the '70's, come to think of it.

    How does he explain the historical, worldwide difference in achievements between whites and blacks?

    Does he think throughout the centuries whites dispatched special forces into black countries to “oppress” them and make sure there was no Shakespeare, Edison, or Ford?

    PS: Thanks for the Rampling pics and videos, Steve. My lord.

  112. @SFG
    Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.

    Still, a lot of that is Hollywood making movies about Nazis. And when you put charismatic actors in a role, that role becomes attractive, even if villainous. Look at Pacino in Scarface, or Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Stockbrokers were imitating him, even though he was the bad guy.

    “Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.”

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don’t seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn’t design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don’t get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don’t get being that blatant about it.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    It is definitely true of basically all plans of Speer, which were based on Hitler's sketches.

    While Hitler is derided for being lazy (which in a sense he was), he spent huge energies on things he was interested in, which didn't much include the day-to-day business of governing a country, but did include designing things like the Party Days in Nuremberg, uniforms, buildings and cities, and possibly even the Beetle.

    He basically created a larger than life real life version of a Wagner opera with himself as the protagonist, where the protagonist (like Wotan) broke eternal law out of hybris but also in service of utopian goals (similarly to how Wotan wanted to create a new world based on love) and this eventually led to his downfall and the destruction of his empire with the death of a huge number of people.

    This kind of story does fascinate people.
    , @SFG
    It's actually pretty easy to understand using the intellectual tools that...I learned in part from you, actually. Who? Whom?

    Galton used evolution to claim some races were superior to others. That's bad when your goal is to create a multiracial democracy where everyone is supposed to have equal outcomes. Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery; he also used evolution to unwind the Biblical account of human creation, so you can use his ideas to go after evangelical Christianity. That's good if you don't like slavery and don't like evangelical Christianity.

    (Yes, I think he was right. So was Galton, at least in the general sense of HBD (he didn't get all the tradeoffs, but that's a little much to expect one man to discover). The point is the political implications of each piece of information.)

    Now to why VW and Hugo Boss got away with it. My best guess would be that they wanted to rebuild Germany after the war so they wouldn't stew and go after the UK/US/allies like happened last time. So they allowed those companies to persist.

    As for fashion and fascism...Hugo himself got barred from business but his son was able to take over. My guess is they won over enough New York tastemakers in the early years to be popular, but I'm not an expert on fashion. It's worth pointing out they just make clothes...it's not as if they were fabricating poison gas or something. Fashion people are also notoriously superficial...you'd expect people who spend all their time on minutiae of how people look to be mostly interested in appearances, wouldn't you?
    , @a reader
    Hugo Boss became (in)famous for supplying uniforms to the Sturmabteilung , Schutzstaffel and Hitler Jugend.

    For some reason , the supplier to the Kriegsmarine and then the SS is much less known.

    I wonder why.
    , @Big J
    Actually, the car that became the VW Beetle was originally based on designs by (Jewish) Josef Ganz.
    Phttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Superior
  113. @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    America’s unique way of thinking about health care is based on America’s unique way of funding health care. The funding is trompe l’oeil stuff. Ask why even in America’s most busted-up cities, the newest and shiniest buildings are often hospitals and doctors’ offices, and how that can be possible, and what the meaning of it is. Ask how is it the $10 an hour janitor and $100 an hour executive will be enrolled in the same insurance group paying the same benefit.

    Our political leaders, journalists, and nearly all academics simply refuse to ask questions that suggest there’s something really rotten at the core of health care. So we pretty much all end up with our leaders doing the socialized medicine vs. free markets boogie-woogie without anyone actually knowing what the terms of debate are. My guess is we’ll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an expat who had to purchase commercial health insurance recently. If you ask to be covered in the U.S. the premium bumps up by something like 50%. There's no way health care is 50% better in the U.S. than in France or Great Britain. Something has got to change. The high cost of health care in the U.S. is one reason my wife refuses to even consider returning to the U.S. to live. After talking to members of my family who have to arrange their own medical insurance (astronomical deductibles), I'm inclined to agree.

    And don't even get me started on dental care!

    , @bomag
    My guess is we’ll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too. (US healthcare system)

    ???

    The healthcare system is largely a jobs program.

    We spend 20% of our GDP on what some other industrial countries spend 5%. But we get more, in several areas.

    Where else should we spend the money? The space program? Ha ha ha ha!
    , @Desiderius

    My guess is we’ll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.
     
    That price accounts for a big chunk of the $20 trillion we're already on the hook for.
  114. @Colleen Pater
    they should simply add a best black actor category so every year there will be a black winning the best black actor award and someone who happens to be white winning the best actor award.

    Plaques for Blacks!

  115. @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    Richardson died from a condition (an epidural hematoma) easily cured by a relatively common neurosurgery. She died many hours after her injury occurred. It was reported that the hospital she went to in Canada could not perform a simple CT scan of her head since it was not a government-designated “trauma hospital.”

    Almost all hospitals in the U.S. (even rural ones) have CT scanners and are looking for reasons to use them.

    The result is that in the U.S. you might get an unnecessary CT scan. In Canada, you might die from a treatable condition that a CT scan would have detected.

  116. @Jim Don Bob
    Nazis had really cool uniforms. The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.

    I’ve visited a number of World War II museums and read quite a few books containing photographs. I’ve always thought that the German Army and the Waffen SS (the National Socialist German Workers Party had its own brown uniform) had the snazziest field grey uniforms. They fought in a bad cause, of course, but they were well-dressed doing so.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Very dapper. But horrible for the Russian winters.
  117. @reiner Tor
    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    “all German uniforms looked cool”

    The popular UK 70s sitcom Dad’s Army (about the Home Guard, a volunteer corps of non-fighting age) has an episode where as part of an exercise they wear German uniform.

    Charlotte Rampling’s most famous/notorious role was in The Night Porter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Porter

    “The Night Porter (Italian: Il portiere di notte) is a 1974 cult classic art film by Italian director Liliana Cavani, starring Dirk Bogarde and Charlotte Rampling featuring elements of Nazisploitation. Its themes of sexual and sadomasochistic obsession made it controversial at the time of release. ”

    And way off topic, but the sneering UK lefty comic Mark Steel (can’t stand him but the BBC love him), adopted son of a working class Kentish family, turns out to be the natural son of a Sephardic billionaire and world backgammon champion (I think it’s Joe Dwek – did he buy Luther Vandross’s house for $12m around 2010?). His natural mother’s family turn out to be committed lefties too.

    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/27/mark-steel-finding-out-who-i-am

    “He says he had a revelation about inherited traits when he found a story about his father in a magazine gossip column. He and some friends were on a yacht in the Mediterranean when someone fell into the water, and he dived in to rescue him. Several years later, the man bumped into Mark’s father and said: “Aren’t you the former backgammon champion?” Quick as a flash, he said: “No, I’m the man who saved your life, you cunt.”

    Mark laughs and says: “Natasha said I must be his son; his response was funny, feisty and sweary – which, she says, describes me perfectly. I never knew there was a sweary gene, but I’ll take it.”

    Did Mark learn anything about himself in the process of writing the show. “I started off convinced that we’re formed by our environment and genetic makeup accounts for very little, but now I know that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.”

    Mr Steel used to be a big right-to-choose type, don’t know if that’s changed.

    “Mark emailed him (now living in the United States) and he responded. “He said he remembered Frances vividly but it was all a bit of a shock because he had made all the arrangements to have me dispensed with. But she took the money and didn’t go through with it, bless her.””

  118. @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    I don’t think that the difference is in the emergency rooms–the difference is how much the first responders try to treat the injury at the scene, as opposed to seeking only to stabilize the patient and transport him or her as soon as possible. Either point of view has its defenders. From the little I know about Princess Diana, her internal injuries were so extensive and massive that only a miracle could have saved her. She did make it to the emergency room, but died there.

    Best advice: Always fasten your seat belt and shoulder harness! The fellow who did so in Princess Diana’s car walked away from the crash.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    According to retired ER doctors I have talked to, in 1997 Diana would have had roughly fifty-fity chances even in 1997 were she brought to a first class US trauma center within ten to fifteen minutes, and today somewhat better. The French approach is considered ridiculous.
  119. @JackOH
    America's unique way of thinking about health care is based on America's unique way of funding health care. The funding is trompe l'oeil stuff. Ask why even in America's most busted-up cities, the newest and shiniest buildings are often hospitals and doctors' offices, and how that can be possible, and what the meaning of it is. Ask how is it the $10 an hour janitor and $100 an hour executive will be enrolled in the same insurance group paying the same benefit.

    Our political leaders, journalists, and nearly all academics simply refuse to ask questions that suggest there's something really rotten at the core of health care. So we pretty much all end up with our leaders doing the socialized medicine vs. free markets boogie-woogie without anyone actually knowing what the terms of debate are. My guess is we'll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.

    I’m an expat who had to purchase commercial health insurance recently. If you ask to be covered in the U.S. the premium bumps up by something like 50%. There’s no way health care is 50% better in the U.S. than in France or Great Britain. Something has got to change. The high cost of health care in the U.S. is one reason my wife refuses to even consider returning to the U.S. to live. After talking to members of my family who have to arrange their own medical insurance (astronomical deductibles), I’m inclined to agree.

    And don’t even get me started on dental care!

  120. @Steve Sailer
    "Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss."

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don't seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn't design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don't get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don't get being that blatant about it.

    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    It is definitely true of basically all plans of Speer, which were based on Hitler’s sketches.

    While Hitler is derided for being lazy (which in a sense he was), he spent huge energies on things he was interested in, which didn’t much include the day-to-day business of governing a country, but did include designing things like the Party Days in Nuremberg, uniforms, buildings and cities, and possibly even the Beetle.

    He basically created a larger than life real life version of a Wagner opera with himself as the protagonist, where the protagonist (like Wotan) broke eternal law out of hybris but also in service of utopian goals (similarly to how Wotan wanted to create a new world based on love) and this eventually led to his downfall and the destruction of his empire with the death of a huge number of people.

    This kind of story does fascinate people.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Faust (also a German story).
    , @a reader
    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    Here you are.

    Of course, some fellows beg to differ.
  121. @JackOH
    America's unique way of thinking about health care is based on America's unique way of funding health care. The funding is trompe l'oeil stuff. Ask why even in America's most busted-up cities, the newest and shiniest buildings are often hospitals and doctors' offices, and how that can be possible, and what the meaning of it is. Ask how is it the $10 an hour janitor and $100 an hour executive will be enrolled in the same insurance group paying the same benefit.

    Our political leaders, journalists, and nearly all academics simply refuse to ask questions that suggest there's something really rotten at the core of health care. So we pretty much all end up with our leaders doing the socialized medicine vs. free markets boogie-woogie without anyone actually knowing what the terms of debate are. My guess is we'll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.

    My guess is we’ll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too. (US healthcare system)

    ???

    The healthcare system is largely a jobs program.

    We spend 20% of our GDP on what some other industrial countries spend 5%. But we get more, in several areas.

    Where else should we spend the money? The space program? Ha ha ha ha!

  122. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump Retweets Apparent Neo-Nazi Supporter"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-tweets-apparent-neo-nazi-supporter-n502136

    Donald Trump on Friday retweeted what appears to be a neo-Nazi Twitter account that posted a photoshopped picture mocking rival Jeb Bush.

    The tweet by user "@WhiteGenocideTM" featured an image of Bush dressed as a panhandler outside Trump Tower with a "Vote Trump" sign.

    WhiteGenocideTM's profile picture is an image of George Lincoln Rockwell, the infamous founder of the American Nazi Party, with the caption "The Man Who Wants To Be Hitler." His listed location is "Jewmerica."

    An additional banner image on his profile reads: "GET THE F— OUT OF MY COUNTRY." Recent tweets and retweets from the account include anti-Semitic imagery, quotes from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and tweets deriding Martin Luther King Jr. The profile also listed a link to a website promoting a biographical documentary of Adolf Hitler.

    Trump, whose Twitter account is a central piece of his messaging operation, with more than 5 million followers, has passed on tweets from users who espouse white supremacist and openly racist causes in the past.
     

    Hitler loved dogs; so if you support SPCA, you’re a Nazi!

  123. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    the candy bar guy from Die Hard?

  124. If Ms. Rampling needs a “Safe Space”. she can live with me.

  125. @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    I’m not sure having less ambitious doctors is such a bad thing–I hear way too many things about MDs being pressured to do more procedures by their hospital or group to increase the bottom line. I’m sure you’ve heard about all the stents put in even though they didn’t increase lifespan, or people being prescribed more expensive medications even though the old cheap diuretics worked just as well treating hypertension.

    Steve? Fancy medicine saved your life…

    • Replies: @thinkingabout it
    I'm a doctor, so I feel qualified to answer -

    Lay people can never tell how good a doctor is since they lack the expertise. But rest assured that increasing the numbers of lazy dummies in the medical field will result in a significant decline in outcomes. Of course, scientific advancement will mask this decline, much as it has masked the decline in physicians' clinical skill over the last few decades.

    The need of the hour is for an open competitive system for doctors, where they are judged by outcomes and these outcomes are published for all to see. You'll see the numbers of affirmative action physicians begin to drop real fast.
    , @Anonymous
    Physicians would be less susceptible to pressure from hospitals to do more procedures if less of them were employed by hospitals as used to be the case. There have been hospital-employed physicans since the Kaiser system began, but they represented a small fraction of total physicians until the early 1990's. Fear of declining incomes from health care reform since then has led many groups to sell out to hospitals or corporations, and now many physicians are under the pressure you describe. In other cases, the increased market power among hospitals due to consolidations and mergers has allowed them to bully physicians into employment relationships that the physicians don't want. Regardless, no hospital-employed physician, ambitious or not, hardworking or lazy, can successfully resist hospital pressure to bill more without risk of job loss.

    Increasing life span is not the only measure of a procedure or test's value. What if you get 1 year of life mostly angina-free with the stent but periodic angina throughout that same 1 year without the stent? The same argument applies to screening for prostate cancer with prostate specific antigen (PSA). In general, it doesn't extend life, but it does reduce the likelihood that a man will die of metastatic prostate cancer rather than something else. I can think of many, many ways I would rather die than metastatic cancer, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people shared the same preference. But now we won't get the chance because of tunnel vision about using lifespan as the primary determinant of a screening test or procedure's worth.

  126. @Richard of Melbourne
    I couldn't agree more. If Fury Road is one of the nine best films of the year then Hollywood is in trouble. And for my money the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment (it was shot just outside my home town, as it happens).

    But more importantly: someone has to invent an award to give to Charlotte Rampling. Perhaps a "Golden Scrotum" for ballsiest statement by a figure in the entertainment industry?

    Richard of Melbourne, “Fury Road” was on my cable offerings and I watched it. Has to be one of the lamest movies I have ever seen. There can’t be more than 100 lines of dialogue in the whole movie and none more than a few short words or chants. It was like watching a Moto-cross race of bizarre vehicles across a vast wilderness. I would, however, nominate for an Oscar, the techies who managed to keep the dust out of the camera lenses. And, as to your remarks on Ms. Ramplings’ ballsieness, she can probably borrow Bruce Jenner’s nuts as he no longer needs or wants them.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  127. @Steve Sailer
    "Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss."

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don't seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn't design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don't get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don't get being that blatant about it.

    It’s actually pretty easy to understand using the intellectual tools that…I learned in part from you, actually. Who? Whom?

    Galton used evolution to claim some races were superior to others. That’s bad when your goal is to create a multiracial democracy where everyone is supposed to have equal outcomes. Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery; he also used evolution to unwind the Biblical account of human creation, so you can use his ideas to go after evangelical Christianity. That’s good if you don’t like slavery and don’t like evangelical Christianity.

    (Yes, I think he was right. So was Galton, at least in the general sense of HBD (he didn’t get all the tradeoffs, but that’s a little much to expect one man to discover). The point is the political implications of each piece of information.)

    Now to why VW and Hugo Boss got away with it. My best guess would be that they wanted to rebuild Germany after the war so they wouldn’t stew and go after the UK/US/allies like happened last time. So they allowed those companies to persist.

    As for fashion and fascism…Hugo himself got barred from business but his son was able to take over. My guess is they won over enough New York tastemakers in the early years to be popular, but I’m not an expert on fashion. It’s worth pointing out they just make clothes…it’s not as if they were fabricating poison gas or something. Fashion people are also notoriously superficial…you’d expect people who spend all their time on minutiae of how people look to be mostly interested in appearances, wouldn’t you?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That’s good if you don’t like slavery and don’t like evangelical Christianity.
     
    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.

    "Progressives" were nowhere to be seen. Except, perhaps, on the other side. Indeed, when the nascent field of sociology arrived in America in 1854 (in the form of two books translated from the French), it was embraced by Southern leaders because it backed up much of their worldview.
    , @reiner Tor

    Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery
     
    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn't think it was reason enough to enslave them, just as the fact that animals are our inferiors doesn't mean we should be unnecessarily cruel to them or torture them.
  128. @reiner Tor
    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    It is definitely true of basically all plans of Speer, which were based on Hitler's sketches.

    While Hitler is derided for being lazy (which in a sense he was), he spent huge energies on things he was interested in, which didn't much include the day-to-day business of governing a country, but did include designing things like the Party Days in Nuremberg, uniforms, buildings and cities, and possibly even the Beetle.

    He basically created a larger than life real life version of a Wagner opera with himself as the protagonist, where the protagonist (like Wotan) broke eternal law out of hybris but also in service of utopian goals (similarly to how Wotan wanted to create a new world based on love) and this eventually led to his downfall and the destruction of his empire with the death of a huge number of people.

    This kind of story does fascinate people.

    Faust (also a German story).

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Yes, but Hitler was an almost maniacal Wagner fan, so I think Wotan might have inspired him more. The way he clings to hope after all hope is lost until the very end, and then committing suicide among the burning ruins of his castle...
  129. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    Nigh, I know you might not believe this, but at birth white children are not gifted with a lifetime clean bill of health, automatic high school diploma, a letter of acceptance into their college of choice, a great job offer and a white privilege card all stapled to their birth certificate.

  130. @Gurney Halleck
    If you are on the film's wavelength -- as in someone who can appreciate action cinema -- then it is perhaps the finest action film in over a decade, perhaps much longer. There's a lot of old people who don't "get it" though, in the sense that they would be more responsive to some drama set in 18th century England with heavy exposition and dialogue than to action thrillers.

    If you are on the film’s wavelength — as in someone who can appreciate action cinema — then it is perhaps the finest action film in over a decade, perhaps much longer. There’s a lot of old people who don’t “get it” though, in the sense that they would be more responsive to some drama set in 18th century England with heavy exposition and dialogue than to action thrillers.

    If you are referring to the new Mad Max then I can tell you that I know of no-one my age who thought it was anything more than ok. Two out-of-shape middle-aged nerds were telling each other how it was the best film ever as we left the cinema though. They are essentially the butt of my jokey comments on the film and they always trigger a laugh.

    Also, I do not think that the Oscar voters skew young so from personal and general observations I think that you have gotten your argument the wrong way around.

    Perhaps it is that cars no longer play a big part in the aspirations of the young? Probably something to do with the fact that educated young people now struggle to afford a place to live nevermind a decent ride.

  131. @Richard of Melbourne
    I couldn't agree more. If Fury Road is one of the nine best films of the year then Hollywood is in trouble. And for my money the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment (it was shot just outside my home town, as it happens).

    But more importantly: someone has to invent an award to give to Charlotte Rampling. Perhaps a "Golden Scrotum" for ballsiest statement by a figure in the entertainment industry?

    the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment

    When you say “the first,” do you mean Mad Max (1979) instead of The Road Warrior (1981), which most people think of as the Mad Max movie? I would agree that Mad Max was better than Fury Road, but to me The Road Warrior is true perfection. Somehow, in Fury Road, Max had turned into one of those guys you see in advertisements who has to be schooled by women.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics, at least from the action-movie point of view. It's more of a reflection of the age.

    My first thought after the movie was, "That didn't make much sense, but the cinematography and set design guys should get extra Oscars if that were possible!"
  132. @Anonymous
    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames? You guys are going to get back what you gave.

    How does it feel to know that your unearned privilege and primacy is about to go down in flames?

    As the most foremost black intellectual, I resent that, sir!

  133. @Anonymous
    Speak for yourself. Wasn't me.

    Thanks for clarifying that you’re not the Anonymous who said what another Anonymous said. We try to keep our Anonymouses straight around here, as challenging as that may be.

  134. @Massimo Heitor
    Are Spike Lee and Jada Smith trying to drive up Trump's poll numbers?

    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.
     
    Indeed. Well said.
    , @Desiderius

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.
     
    Runaway black entitlement works against the Black Party. That does help Trump most directly in that he's the natural destination for fleeing whites, but anything that weakens that party helps the non-Black party, whoever their nominee is.

    I.e. they'll vote for Trump, but if they just don't turnout for the Black Party, that alone could swing the balance.
  135. Spike Lee…Spike Leee…let’s think…he’s in a commercial, right? Or is that the other guy? Anyways, people care about the Oscars, apparently, although I’ve never met any of them. Who knew?

  136. @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance.

    • Replies: @SFG
    It wasn't that exactly. He saw himself as being courageous enough to face his people's dark side to criticize it, and when he saw white people getting a kick out of it...well, you do the math.

    It's one of those things where I don't like what happened but I can't really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    , @Corvinus
    "When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance."

    Chappelle pointed out both black destructiveness and white bigotry with equal ferocity, with the underlying theme being social conditions driving racial discord.

    Also, Chappelle left Comedy Central for this reason...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/dave-chappelle-confesses-left-tv-family-article-1.1860672
  137. @SPMoore8
    This is Ta-Nehisi Coates' argument in a nutshell:

    #1 - Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.
    #2 - Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,
    #3 - And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,
    #4 - The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    It really is a rebound off feminism in the '70's, come to think of it.

    I have read a few of the pieces by TNC and I disagree with what you have written.

    #1 – Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Anytime this is referenced it is because whites have “crippled “ the efforts of blacks. Black slavery created the modern world so the modern world is a black creation.

    #2 – Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,

    Blacks and whites are eternally different. White owners – black slaves created an eternal dynamic.

    #3 – And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,

    There is nothing wrong with black culture because “wrong” has been defined by whites. Running away from slavery was defined as a crime, therefore, raping and slicing up 80 year old grandmothers are not criminal acts because being black is used to define what is crime.

    #4 – The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Nowhere (that I have read) does he expressly or implicitly say that reparations will cause the disparate criminal behavior (which doesn’t exist in the first place) of blacks to go away. Reparations are eternal. It is an indemnity to be paid forever by whites to blacks.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    The history of the world did not start with black slavery by whites.

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn't they domesticate animals? Why didn't they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Why don't blacks do well in any part of the world? When have they ever? Why do the Chinese do well everywhere they go? If whites enslaving blacks are the sole cause of black problems and there are no differences in ability, how did whites come to be in the position to enslave blacks? Why do blacks still contribute so little to science? Why does no other racial ethnic group in the world commit as much violence as blacks? Why do the vast majority of other groups/cultures/etc have more peaceful and more advanced societies?

    These questions could go on forever and only a feeble mind will think "racism" is the answer.
  138. Charlotte Rampling didn’t get where she is today by boycotting good scripts which is something the Smith family should bear in mind.

  139. @5371
    Back in the day more than a few people fancied romping with Charlotte, rumpling her hair a bit ...

    Back in the day more than a few people fancied romping with Charlotte, rumpling her hair a bit …

    She looked remarkably toned at 56 for Swimming Pool.

  140. @Anonymous
    "Donald Trump Retweets Apparent Neo-Nazi Supporter"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-tweets-apparent-neo-nazi-supporter-n502136

    Donald Trump on Friday retweeted what appears to be a neo-Nazi Twitter account that posted a photoshopped picture mocking rival Jeb Bush.

    The tweet by user "@WhiteGenocideTM" featured an image of Bush dressed as a panhandler outside Trump Tower with a "Vote Trump" sign.

    WhiteGenocideTM's profile picture is an image of George Lincoln Rockwell, the infamous founder of the American Nazi Party, with the caption "The Man Who Wants To Be Hitler." His listed location is "Jewmerica."

    An additional banner image on his profile reads: "GET THE F— OUT OF MY COUNTRY." Recent tweets and retweets from the account include anti-Semitic imagery, quotes from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels and tweets deriding Martin Luther King Jr. The profile also listed a link to a website promoting a biographical documentary of Adolf Hitler.

    Trump, whose Twitter account is a central piece of his messaging operation, with more than 5 million followers, has passed on tweets from users who espouse white supremacist and openly racist causes in the past.
     

    Retweeting a WNist supporter, one who styles himself “WhiteGenocideTM,” would utterly destroy the career of some typical cuck. But something tells me The Trump will be just fine.

  141. @SFG
    It's actually pretty easy to understand using the intellectual tools that...I learned in part from you, actually. Who? Whom?

    Galton used evolution to claim some races were superior to others. That's bad when your goal is to create a multiracial democracy where everyone is supposed to have equal outcomes. Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery; he also used evolution to unwind the Biblical account of human creation, so you can use his ideas to go after evangelical Christianity. That's good if you don't like slavery and don't like evangelical Christianity.

    (Yes, I think he was right. So was Galton, at least in the general sense of HBD (he didn't get all the tradeoffs, but that's a little much to expect one man to discover). The point is the political implications of each piece of information.)

    Now to why VW and Hugo Boss got away with it. My best guess would be that they wanted to rebuild Germany after the war so they wouldn't stew and go after the UK/US/allies like happened last time. So they allowed those companies to persist.

    As for fashion and fascism...Hugo himself got barred from business but his son was able to take over. My guess is they won over enough New York tastemakers in the early years to be popular, but I'm not an expert on fashion. It's worth pointing out they just make clothes...it's not as if they were fabricating poison gas or something. Fashion people are also notoriously superficial...you'd expect people who spend all their time on minutiae of how people look to be mostly interested in appearances, wouldn't you?

    That’s good if you don’t like slavery and don’t like evangelical Christianity.

    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.

    “Progressives” were nowhere to be seen. Except, perhaps, on the other side. Indeed, when the nascent field of sociology arrived in America in 1854 (in the form of two books translated from the French), it was embraced by Southern leaders because it backed up much of their worldview.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Yes. Garrison and Co. were very strongly motivated by belief in God. That was also 150 years ago.

    The sides change over time. Remember William Jennings Bryan, the rural Christian socialist?

    I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho, which will be called Albalad Al'abyad (the white country). From here they will launch sorties against the Chinese-Jewish-Indian-Anglo elite based in Jersey City after Manhattan and DC sank beneath the waves.

    (Ja, das ist ein Witz)

    , @Desiderius

    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.
     
    Yeah, well some evangelicals today believe that kids deserve a mom and a dad, so therefore airbrushing history is fine. Who knows any history before 1968 anyway, amirite?
  142. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s good if you don’t like slavery and don’t like evangelical Christianity.
     
    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.

    "Progressives" were nowhere to be seen. Except, perhaps, on the other side. Indeed, when the nascent field of sociology arrived in America in 1854 (in the form of two books translated from the French), it was embraced by Southern leaders because it backed up much of their worldview.

    Yes. Garrison and Co. were very strongly motivated by belief in God. That was also 150 years ago.

    The sides change over time. Remember William Jennings Bryan, the rural Christian socialist?

    I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho, which will be called Albalad Al’abyad (the white country). From here they will launch sorties against the Chinese-Jewish-Indian-Anglo elite based in Jersey City after Manhattan and DC sank beneath the waves.

    (Ja, das ist ein Witz)

    • Replies: @black sea
    I see the makings of a screenplay here:

    "Jihad in Jersey, the Mountain Menace"
    , @Mr. Anon
    "I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho..."

    You and Frank Herbert.
  143. @Harry Baldwin
    the first Mad Max film is a much better entertainment

    When you say "the first," do you mean Mad Max (1979) instead of The Road Warrior (1981), which most people think of as the Mad Max movie? I would agree that Mad Max was better than Fury Road, but to me The Road Warrior is true perfection. Somehow, in Fury Road, Max had turned into one of those guys you see in advertisements who has to be schooled by women.

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics, at least from the action-movie point of view. It’s more of a reflection of the age.

    My first thought after the movie was, “That didn’t make much sense, but the cinematography and set design guys should get extra Oscars if that were possible!”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics

    Actually, it reminded me of a long Lady Gaga music video. Visually interesting, but weirdly queer and pointless.

    , @syonredux

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics,
     
    Maybe the most impressive thing about Fury Road is how George Miller managed to con people into thinking that it was a deeply radical and subversive film.Seriously, when would saying that women shouldn't be treated as property and used as sex slaves count as daring?

    And Theron's Furiosa hardly counts as some action movie breakthrough for women. Cf Ripley in Aliens, Linda Hamilton in Terminator II, etc.
  144. This scene from The Night Porter is stunning.

  145. @SFG
    Yes. Garrison and Co. were very strongly motivated by belief in God. That was also 150 years ago.

    The sides change over time. Remember William Jennings Bryan, the rural Christian socialist?

    I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho, which will be called Albalad Al'abyad (the white country). From here they will launch sorties against the Chinese-Jewish-Indian-Anglo elite based in Jersey City after Manhattan and DC sank beneath the waves.

    (Ja, das ist ein Witz)

    I see the makings of a screenplay here:

    “Jihad in Jersey, the Mountain Menace”

  146. @Anon
    If blacks think they're going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they're naive. Even if they fill the Oscar panels with blacks who nominate nothing but black films, whites will simply migrate away to create another award that garners all the prestige, exactly the way white liberals pay lip service to blacks but physically segregate themselves in reality.

    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?
     
    Good point!
    , @Anonymous
    Well you don't think Holocaust movies are still regularly made and awarded because there's a huge demand for them and people think they're really awesome, do you?
  147. @Anon
    If blacks think they're going to get anywhere by sobbing, crying, and complaining their way to Oscars, they're naive. Even if they fill the Oscar panels with blacks who nominate nothing but black films, whites will simply migrate away to create another award that garners all the prestige, exactly the way white liberals pay lip service to blacks but physically segregate themselves in reality.

    Agreed. I point this out all of the time. Or put another way: “Those people will ruin anything,” which is why a place like Yale needs to be careful people don’t start thinking of it the way we now think of HBCUs.

    But what is happening is we are moving into an era which we can label “post white-guilt.” The cries of waaay-cism and for more representation are falling on increasingly deaf ears, not because whites are becoming more racist, but because white guilt is becoming increasingly assuaged. The feeling is that enough has been done and the whining won’t stop.

    The liberals haven’t figured this out yet. But they will and their tactics will change. The sense is though that the primary obstacles facing an intelligent well-socialized black comes from his own people rather than from “White Supremacy,” and the increasingly byzantine efforts involved in seeing that rare intelligent well-socialized black be given a “fair opportunity” are no longer worth the cost to white people forced to endure black dysfunction without recourse to justice.

  148. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    I bet you were conscientious about returning them when you’d borrowed his hedgeclippers.

  149. @Steve Sailer
    If you go back a few decades, English life expectancies were several years shorter than Americans. But then that changed ...

    Yeah, we have a lot more Mexican immigrants with type II diabetes now. I expect US life expectancy will go down now that Obamacare is here. Already the government has discovered that breast cancer screening and annual physicals are not “cost effective”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Hispanics actually have the highest life expectancy in the US for some reason. It's considered a paradox because education and affluence are generally assumed to be associated with longevity:

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/us-hispanics-longer-life-expectancy-white-black-americans/story?id=11883156
  150. @Harry Baldwin
    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.

    Indeed. Well said.

  151. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s good if you don’t like slavery and don’t like evangelical Christianity.
     
    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.

    "Progressives" were nowhere to be seen. Except, perhaps, on the other side. Indeed, when the nascent field of sociology arrived in America in 1854 (in the form of two books translated from the French), it was embraced by Southern leaders because it backed up much of their worldview.

    An awkward position, given that it was evangelicals (or their equivalent) who led the movement against it.

    Yeah, well some evangelicals today believe that kids deserve a mom and a dad, so therefore airbrushing history is fine. Who knows any history before 1968 anyway, amirite?

  152. @SFG
    Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high). Single-payer might actually wind up saving the country money overall by replacing the health insurance companies...though the size of the government would increase.

    I agree that reparations probably would not change things for long:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s

    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    “Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high).”

    American low tax rates are a myth. If you include state income and sales taxes and mandatory health care insurance as a tax, it adds up to a higher rate than most of the European and Asian first world welfare states oblige their citizens to pay. Belgium and Denmark may match US style rates — though very few pay those rates — but England, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, and Italy have distinctly lower total rates at every income level.

    And the USA doesn’t just have pretty high corporate rates. The USA has the highest corporate income tax rates in any first world nation. Japan used to be a tiny bit higher but PM Abe reformed the system because it was choking businesses and jobs.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    You beat me to it. Most people in the U.S. live within the jurisdictions of three taxing authorities - Federal, State and local/municipal. When you correct for this and adjust for accounting tricks like the employer's payroll tax match, we're pretty heavily taxed.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Right, and the US taxes all corporate income regardless of where it was earned. No other country taxes worldwide income, which is one reason many corporations are "leaving" the US.
  153. @JackOH
    America's unique way of thinking about health care is based on America's unique way of funding health care. The funding is trompe l'oeil stuff. Ask why even in America's most busted-up cities, the newest and shiniest buildings are often hospitals and doctors' offices, and how that can be possible, and what the meaning of it is. Ask how is it the $10 an hour janitor and $100 an hour executive will be enrolled in the same insurance group paying the same benefit.

    Our political leaders, journalists, and nearly all academics simply refuse to ask questions that suggest there's something really rotten at the core of health care. So we pretty much all end up with our leaders doing the socialized medicine vs. free markets boogie-woogie without anyone actually knowing what the terms of debate are. My guess is we'll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.

    My guess is we’ll all pay a price for that willful ignorance, and fairly soon, too.

    That price accounts for a big chunk of the $20 trillion we’re already on the hook for.

  154. @Steve Sailer
    If you go back a few decades, English life expectancies were several years shorter than Americans. But then that changed ...

    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?
     
    Or maybe the relative quality of US residents.
    , @Brutusale
    It's not the quality of our healthcare, it's what healthcare providers are providing.

    As iSteve regulars are probably sick of hearing, my girlfriend is a nurse case manager at Boston's main provider of care to the minority community. She has about reached her breaking point with the crap going on.

    About a year ago the hospital started an initiative to ensure that they get paid; when 65% of your patients are Medicaid and you're getting 30 cents on the dollar for their care, you'd better make sure to get that 30 cents. Being a trusted and motivated employee (RN, nursing masters, certified case manager), she was asked to be the CM lead to make sure docs were coding patients properly, essential for billing the government; she maintains they are far stricter than the insurance companies about the Ts being crossed and Is being dotted.

    Over the past year, she's discovered things like Medicaid and "free care" (hospital code for illegals) recipients getting elective plastic surgery like breast enhancements and tummy tucks. Gastric bypass for the virbant community is off the charts. International patients from the Middle East, desirable because they pay cash on the barrel head, actually paying at about 60% full price (hey, it's a haggling culture) and the continued overuse of the ER by the Medicaid-American community, something that was supposed to be eradicated by Obamacare.

    One of her tasks was to verify usage by the "frequent flyers", non-chronic condition patients with excessive visits. The most egregious was an immigrant with FIFTY-THREE visits the previous fiscal year, all for OD or injuries related to his substance abuse. The cops get a call, the ambulance shows up and takes him to the hospital. Everyone gets a piece of the action except the taxpayers.

    As ol' Reg says, it's not the quality of the healthcare, it's the quality of US residents.

  155. @Harry Baldwin
    I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for Trump than the #OscarSoWhite movement.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.

    Runaway black entitlement works against the Black Party. That does help Trump most directly in that he’s the natural destination for fleeing whites, but anything that weakens that party helps the non-Black party, whoever their nominee is.

    I.e. they’ll vote for Trump, but if they just don’t turnout for the Black Party, that alone could swing the balance.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It works both ways though. Trump's promotion of and dogwhistling to the neo-Nazi elements of his base in public outlets like Twitter will also help mobilize the Dems.
  156. O.T.
    I just saw the motion picture Ex Machina. That was no “fortress of solitude in northern Norway” as Steve said in his review. Looked more like southern Norway, if you ask me.
    ps. no way the robot gonna survive outside

  157. The Oscars is a bunch of employees standing in a circle whilst grabbing each other’s intimate zones and congratulating each other. It’s nothing but a corporate awards presentation and irrelevant to any thinking man’s choice in movies. Yaaaaawwwwnnnn………

  158. @bomag
    One problem with Reparations, or purposely diversifying the Oscars, is that it entails admitting guilt, and then the claims will never end. The plaintiffs here are a group that has no intention of letting any agreement end their complaining.

    … problem … the claims will never end.

    Problem? Who whom?

  159. […] Charlotte Rampling is asked about the black boycott of the Oscars (the black people are boycotting because not enough black people got nominated) and her answers are pretty cool (from Steve Sailer): […]

  160. @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    America has the very best trauma medicine in the world, largely driven by military adventures that give the boys so many chances to see lots of interesting new wounds. One shouldn’t discount the most dangerous highways and highest car crash injury rate among the developed nations that make a serious effort to keep victims alive, also.

    That’s just one small part of why US health care is so expensive. I’d say it’s one of the investments that’s worth keeping. Most of the extra costs are not so valuable.

  161. @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    You also have to be able to get to an ER capable of dealing with serious brain injuries. From The American Spectator:

    DID CANADA’S UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE KILL NATASHA RICHARDSON?
    By Matthew Vadum on 3.21.09 | 8:44AM
    Did the fact that Canada has a socialist, government-run healthcare system –similar to the kind that President Obama wants to ram down the throats of Americans– kill acclaimed actress Natasha Richardson?
    The short answer is yes, it may very well have done so.
    Regarding the case of the actress who fell on a ski slope at Mont Tremblant resort in Quebec, AP reports:

    http://spectator.org/blog/18082/did-canadas-universal-health-care-kill-natasha-richardson

  162. So who was really the best actor movies this year, and how would one know if one was not an expert in acting or making movies? Does one expect a superior acting performance from an actor who is paid more? Do they get points for learning their lines quickly, or for needing less takes and being more cost efficient?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Ronald Reagan was a very efficient actor, which made him a natural choice for making instructional movies for the Army during WWII.

    Laurence Olivier was an efficient actor. Marilyn Monroe was a notoriously inefficient actress. There was a movie a few years ago about Olivier trying to direct Monroe in what turned out to be a flop.

  163. @Anonymous

    If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That’s probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well.
     
    Why? They have emergency rooms in France and Canada.

    The relevant grafs from AP coverage at the time of Natasha Richardson’s death:

    The province of Quebec lacks a medical helicopter system, common in the United States and other parts of Canada, to airlift stricken patients to major trauma centers. Montreal’s top head trauma doctor said Friday that may have played a role in Richardson’s death.
    “It’s impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is … driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city. Our system isn’t set up for traumas and doesn’t match what’s available in other Canadian cities, let alone in the States,” said Tarek Razek, director of trauma services for the McGill University Health Centre, which represents six of Montreal’s hospitals.

  164. @Jim Don Bob
    Kim Cattrall was gorgeous in Mannequin.

    Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    "Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything."

    And even better in nothing.

  165. @Formerly CARealist
    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?

    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?

    Good point!

  166. @SFG
    Faust (also a German story).

    Yes, but Hitler was an almost maniacal Wagner fan, so I think Wotan might have inspired him more. The way he clings to hope after all hope is lost until the very end, and then committing suicide among the burning ruins of his castle…

  167. @Mark Green
    This Black/White divergence at the Oscars is really just the tip of Tinseltown's inequality iceberg.

    In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What's up with that, Spike?

    As for 'patterns of racial discrimination', consider how relatively invisible Asians and even Hispanics remain in Hollywood compared to Blacks. Time for a class-action suit, perhaps?

    Plus, a lot of viewers find blacks visually 'unappealing'. Shouldn't this matter?

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood. Why should Africans get a mandatory pass?

    Shouldn't we demand proportional representation for ugly Whites then?

    Plus, there are very few fat chicks or old babes on TV or in film. This persistent disparity will be very difficult to address. It may therefore require government action. Call out the National Guard!

    Indeed, since people (viewers) prefer attractive people over old and ugly (and primitive) people, excessive black visibility in TV and film constitutes an assault on 'choice' and even free markets. Beautiful lives matter, too!

    What America needs is an actual reduction in Black entertainers. Let Freedom ring!

    Lastly, the vast over-representation of Jews in Hollywood must be confronted if we are going to start imposing ethnic and racial quotas anywhere in the entertainment industry. Ha! This could get very interesting.

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood.

    Yes, but they have Washington to themselves.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    "Kid, you've got a face for radio"
  168. @SFG
    It's actually pretty easy to understand using the intellectual tools that...I learned in part from you, actually. Who? Whom?

    Galton used evolution to claim some races were superior to others. That's bad when your goal is to create a multiracial democracy where everyone is supposed to have equal outcomes. Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery; he also used evolution to unwind the Biblical account of human creation, so you can use his ideas to go after evangelical Christianity. That's good if you don't like slavery and don't like evangelical Christianity.

    (Yes, I think he was right. So was Galton, at least in the general sense of HBD (he didn't get all the tradeoffs, but that's a little much to expect one man to discover). The point is the political implications of each piece of information.)

    Now to why VW and Hugo Boss got away with it. My best guess would be that they wanted to rebuild Germany after the war so they wouldn't stew and go after the UK/US/allies like happened last time. So they allowed those companies to persist.

    As for fashion and fascism...Hugo himself got barred from business but his son was able to take over. My guess is they won over enough New York tastemakers in the early years to be popular, but I'm not an expert on fashion. It's worth pointing out they just make clothes...it's not as if they were fabricating poison gas or something. Fashion people are also notoriously superficial...you'd expect people who spend all their time on minutiae of how people look to be mostly interested in appearances, wouldn't you?

    Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn’t think it was reason enough to enslave them, just as the fact that animals are our inferiors doesn’t mean we should be unnecessarily cruel to them or torture them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn’t think it was reason enough to enslave them...
     
    Just the opposite: it's reason enough to avoid them.

    Someone should inject Darwin's logic into Davos.
    , @Bliss

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid.
     
    Aristotle thought the people of Europe north of Greece were stupid.

    If Darwin had visited central america during his expedition and eye-balled the giant 3500 years old Olmec head statues.....he would have become confused:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmufzzqMHKAhUP92MKHQ_BAxkQ_AUIBygB&biw=1097&bih=492
  169. @PV van der Byl
    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?

    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?

    Or maybe the relative quality of US residents.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    +1
  170. @reiner Tor

    Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery
     
    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn't think it was reason enough to enslave them, just as the fact that animals are our inferiors doesn't mean we should be unnecessarily cruel to them or torture them.

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn’t think it was reason enough to enslave them…

    Just the opposite: it’s reason enough to avoid them.

    Someone should inject Darwin’s logic into Davos.

  171. The reason people say that whites have unearned privilege is because they think that acting like an ape and being huge and muscular is how you acquire privilege. The reality is that whites very much earned their privilege by building a strong culture over time.

  172. All this is too funny. The Left is finally starting to eat itself.

    Recently, the writer Vox Day launched Rabid Puppies to counteract lefty-politicking in science fiction book book awards. Basically, he organized an anti-left voting blocks for awards that resulted in the Left in charge of the science fiction awards two choices: (1) lose major categories of the awards to the “wrong” sorts of writers; or (2) burn down their own awards and attempt to illegally throw out/ban Rabid Puppies from membership. They chose option 2.

    That seemed to say to me that the Left would not start eating its own anytime soon so long as there were non-Lefties in their ranks to fight.

    But the Academy Awards is an example of an organization that is Near-Total Leftist. With no big boogeymen of anti-leftists in their ranks, they are now turning on one another as predicted: black versus jewish versus gay versus female versus asian versus other. It’s a classic Stalinist/Hitlerian/Mao purge: once in total control, the left starts stabbing each other in the back out of nowhere.

    Grab the popcorn.

  173. @snorlax
    Not sure if he is anymore, but a few years ago Tyler Perry was ranked as the highest paid man in entertainment.

    Tyler Perry is a healthy, well-adjusted Negro. He tells the stories of his people (his audiences) in a way that they love.

    Tyler Perry is not p!ssing and moaning about how the Shakespeare, NPR, and Masterpiece Theatre crowd at the Academy don’t love him, watch his movies and give him awards.

    He took BT Washington’s advice and “cast down his bucket” right where he was and makes entertaining movies. He is devoid of the desperate need for white affirmation, white approval, and white blessing that the Duboisian “Talented Tenth” are burdened with.

    And he has gotten rich.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    And there are other movies made by blacks for blacks that do well with black audiences: The Think Like a Man series, etc.
  174. I would think that one of the Best Actor or Actress nominees would voluntarily bow out of the nomination and name a deserving black in his or her place.

    I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, and Bryan Cranston are well-known liberals, deeply concerned with the plight of those less fortunate. Here is a fantastic opportunity for one of them to make a real difference!

  175. @Steve Sailer
    "Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss."

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don't seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn't design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don't get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don't get being that blatant about it.

    Hugo Boss became (in)famous for supplying uniforms to the Sturmabteilung , Schutzstaffel and Hitler Jugend.

    For some reason , the supplier to the Kriegsmarine and then the SS is much less known.

    I wonder why.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Coco Chanel also collaborated extensively with the German occupiers, but I don't think she designed anything specific for German women in service.
  176. @Reg Cæsar

    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?
     
    Or maybe the relative quality of US residents.

    +1

  177. @SFG
    Yes. Garrison and Co. were very strongly motivated by belief in God. That was also 150 years ago.

    The sides change over time. Remember William Jennings Bryan, the rural Christian socialist?

    I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho, which will be called Albalad Al'abyad (the white country). From here they will launch sorties against the Chinese-Jewish-Indian-Anglo elite based in Jersey City after Manhattan and DC sank beneath the waves.

    (Ja, das ist ein Witz)

    “I fully expect in 150 years white nationalists will have converted to Islam and taken over Idaho…”

    You and Frank Herbert.

  178. @Former Darfur
    Universal health care works okay for most people in homogenous and productive countries, but the tradeoff is that if you have an unusual illness or accident you are screwed. If Princess Di had had her wreck in a major American city she probably would have lived. That's probably true of Princess Grace and of Natasha Richardson as well. And if you need non-lifesaving but very beneficial elective surgery you will wait a while, such as gallbladder removals (cholecystectomy) or a joint replacement. It will be unpleasant. And you will possibly die knowing that you might have a few more months or years left if only you could get the latest and best treatment as in the United States today.

    And the kind of people who become doctors are going to be a different kind than is the case today. They will make less money, they will work 40-45 hour weeks, and they will shy away from really rigorous residencies. Surgical innovation will be reduced and many more people will live with ostomies, hanging limbs, and other quality of life killing modifications.

    Neonatal medicine will go away to a large extent. Simpler surgeries will become the province of general practitioners and the "hand surgeon"-the guy who does any surgery he can get his hands on.

    But....for 80% of the population it will work 'just as well'. Medicine from the NHS in Britain works that way, and from what I have heard from people over there, Sweden too.

    so true, people also forget that 110% of the drug firm profits are made in America….they lose money in Europe because of price controls…thus new drug treatments will not get developed if the US followed the European model

    another important factor , tort reform…in the UK if a doctor chops off the wrong limb, one is limited to damages of about $150,000. Germany and France have similar tort restrictions which restrict lawsuit damages due to negligence….killing a patient in Europe thus poses no downside financial risks to hospitals or doctors unlike in America. John Edwards earned $150 million suing doctors and hospital….he would have have made no money in Europe.

    our tort laws are another reason socialized medical care will not work in America and will bankrupt our system.

    in terms of life-expectancy, the United States does much better than the UK if you look at whites and exclude our large Black population from the data. Cancer survival rates are twice as high in America compared to the UK.

  179. @Harry Baldwin
    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.

    It wasn’t that exactly. He saw himself as being courageous enough to face his people’s dark side to criticize it, and when he saw white people getting a kick out of it…well, you do the math.

    It’s one of those things where I don’t like what happened but I can’t really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    • Agree: CJ
    • Replies: @iffen
    get Southerners to shape up

    What do you mean by this? What needs shaping up?
    , @Corvinus
    "It’s one of those things where I don’t like what happened but I can’t really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?"

    Probably because 1) Chappelle was targeting that crowd and 2) his writing partner, Neal Brennan, was a white Irish-Catholic.

    https://vimeo.com/61499874

    So, SFG, who is on your team?
    , @Clyde
    David Chappelle undoubtedly had tons of pressure from his fellow blacks to knock it off. That he was making all blacks look really foolish in the eyes of the white man. Of course other black comedians have done this but Chappelle was far too good at it
  180. @reiner Tor
    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    It is definitely true of basically all plans of Speer, which were based on Hitler's sketches.

    While Hitler is derided for being lazy (which in a sense he was), he spent huge energies on things he was interested in, which didn't much include the day-to-day business of governing a country, but did include designing things like the Party Days in Nuremberg, uniforms, buildings and cities, and possibly even the Beetle.

    He basically created a larger than life real life version of a Wagner opera with himself as the protagonist, where the protagonist (like Wotan) broke eternal law out of hybris but also in service of utopian goals (similarly to how Wotan wanted to create a new world based on love) and this eventually led to his downfall and the destruction of his empire with the death of a huge number of people.

    This kind of story does fascinate people.

    I read somewhere (must be Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics) that they found a sketch by Hitler of the car which probably pre-dates all plans by Porsche.

    Here you are.

    Of course, some fellows beg to differ.

  181. @Big Bill
    Oh yeah? But have you white guys done lately, huh?

    “What have you guys done lately?”

    Goddard – Rockets
    Lavoisier- quantitative chemistry
    Mendeleev – Periodic Table
    J Willard Gibbs – Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch – nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg – QM
    Erwin Schrodinger – QM
    Dirac – QM
    Einstein – Special & General Relativity
    Hubble – size of universe, Big Bang
    Glashow, Salam, Weinberg – Standard Model of Particle Physics
    Edison – electric light, recording
    Bell – Telephone
    Ford – mass production
    Fessenden – radio
    Turing – computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener – continental drift
    Fermi – nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Szent Gyorgyi and Krebs – citric acid/Krebs cycle
    Crick – DNA
    Borlaug – Green Revolution
    Shannon – Information Theory
    Shockley – transistor
    Backus – Fortran
    Thompson – UNIX
    Ritchie – C
    Codd – Relational Databases
    Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn – Internet-TCP
    Tim Berners Lee – WWW, Browser

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    Watson & Crick- DNA. Don't Watsonize him like the SJWs do!
  182. @5371
    Pseudoscience.

    It’s not pseudoscience. Haplogroups are a real thing and easy to determine.

    • Replies: @5371
    And that one doesn't mean what the ridiculous piece claims.
  183. So next year Kevin Hart will sweep the Oscars with Ride Along 3, and the real action will move to … what, Critics Choice Awards, Golden Globes, People’s Choice?

    Funny, its like how Yale and Harvard don’t realize they are rapidly turning into a HBCU, the equivalent of say, Howard, or Grambling, at warp speed. What took centuries to build — a social network with a university attached, can be undone in just a few years.

    That’s hilarious, as I had no intention of watching Di Caprio’s “bear rape” movie* or ANY Oscar nominated movie, any more than I’d watch Ride Along. Though I did find the trailer for “Fifty Shades of Black” funny — I’d probably wait for Netflix.

    *I know there was no bear rape. But its still funny.

    Maybe instead of Chris Rock they can get Chappelle to host next year? Or heck, Bill Cosby!

  184. @anony-mouse
    I'm puzzled why there isn't a movie-world Berry Gordy Jr. With the world-wide fascination with African-American culture and with the ease of making movies today we don't seem to have much more than Tyler Perry level successes.

    Gordy came to prominence before it was socially acceptable for blacks to be surly, resentful and angry and it was socially required for whites to publicly self-flagellate and gain status by pretending to understand black grievances better than bad whites. So Gordy had to make a sound that would have mass appeal – Early Motown isn’t particularly black in its themes and the musicianship is very good. Radio helped too because a good tune can bypass the active decision-making process in that you hear it several times in the ambiance and come to like it before buying it.

    I think that insofar as it is a problem with Black representation in movies and awards (which is specious at best) the issue seems to be that when given the choice blacks rarely make movies about anything other than being black. And the theme is always one of white oppression and guilt tripping – no one ever seems to come at the black experience from any other perspective which might be the least bit fresh or interesting. Slavery/Racism/Apartheid/Urban Decay caused by Racism, overcoming all of the above but they’re all as bad or worse than ever. Lather, rinse and repeat.

    People who aren’t black just have a limited appetite for that sort of thing, and the world movie market even less.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  185. @(((Owen)))
    "Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high)."

    American low tax rates are a myth. If you include state income and sales taxes and mandatory health care insurance as a tax, it adds up to a higher rate than most of the European and Asian first world welfare states oblige their citizens to pay. Belgium and Denmark may match US style rates -- though very few pay those rates -- but England, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, and Italy have distinctly lower total rates at every income level.

    And the USA doesn't just have pretty high corporate rates. The USA has the highest corporate income tax rates in any first world nation. Japan used to be a tiny bit higher but PM Abe reformed the system because it was choking businesses and jobs.

    You beat me to it. Most people in the U.S. live within the jurisdictions of three taxing authorities – Federal, State and local/municipal. When you correct for this and adjust for accounting tricks like the employer’s payroll tax match, we’re pretty heavily taxed.

  186. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    Al Leong or William Wong?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Steve's late neighbor was named Bill. There was actually one William and two Bills playing Wing Kong Hatchet Men. William Wong is still alive. I almost posted Bill Ryusaki, but looking him up it appeared he was still alive also. I looked at the cast list more thoroughly and saw there was a second Bill to look up. And then I had the answer.
  187. @SFG
    Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss.

    Still, a lot of that is Hollywood making movies about Nazis. And when you put charismatic actors in a role, that role becomes attractive, even if villainous. Look at Pacino in Scarface, or Michael Douglas in Wall Street. Stockbrokers were imitating him, even though he was the bad guy.

    One of the funnier bits in the piece of holiday fluff from a few years ago, The Holiday, was the Jewish Hollywood writer, talked into accepting an award by Kate Winslet’s character, needing a new suit for the ceremony. When Winslet went to meet him, he was resplendent in his new attire, and his comment was “I like this Hugo Boss. He cuts a nice suit!”

    • Replies: @el topo
    Nancy Meyers is a bit underrated. She makes very good fluff.
  188. @scrivener3
    Yeah, we have a lot more Mexican immigrants with type II diabetes now. I expect US life expectancy will go down now that Obamacare is here. Already the government has discovered that breast cancer screening and annual physicals are not "cost effective".

    Hispanics actually have the highest life expectancy in the US for some reason. It’s considered a paradox because education and affluence are generally assumed to be associated with longevity:

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/us-hispanics-longer-life-expectancy-white-black-americans/story?id=11883156

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    1. Hispanics do NOT have the highest life expectancy in the U.S. Asians do.

    2. First generation Hispanics do well in life expectancy terms compared to whites and blacks, but subsequent generations don't do well.
  189. @Formerly CARealist
    It seems the implicit assumption is that more women and blacks in the Academy means more female and black actors will get nominated for awards. Racial and sexual solidarity are expected. People will be choosing based on race and sex and not necessarily on merit. I wonder if the old white guys will be doing that too? Or will they still be expected to choose on the best performances?

    Well you don’t think Holocaust movies are still regularly made and awarded because there’s a huge demand for them and people think they’re really awesome, do you?

  190. @Reg Cæsar

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood.
     
    Yes, but they have Washington to themselves.

    “Kid, you’ve got a face for radio”

  191. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2.”

    Effective helmet designs look the same because solving the same problem often results in similar-looking solutions. That ww2-German and modern-US helmet look is what happens when people with PhDs are given some time to study the problem and do their best. The helmet solution for today is related to a similar solution (for arrows, bolts, and catapult projectiles) from the mid-1400s.

    Stahlhelm:

    “…The design of the Stahlhelm was carried out by Dr. Friedrich Schwerd of the Technical Institute of Hanover. In early 1915, Schwerd had carried out a study of head wounds… Schwerd then undertook the task of designing and producing a suitable helmet broadly based on the 15th century sallet, which provided good protection for the head and neck.”

    Sallet:

    “…a war helmet that replaced the bascinet in Italy, western and northern Europe and Hungary during the mid-15th century…

    …they were favoured by more lightly armed troops, especially archers and crossbowmen, whose uninterrupted vision was at a premium.

    …In …1450-1460 a distinctive German style of sallet appeared. It was round-skulled but was less curvaceous than the Italian sallet, its most obvious feature was that the rear of the helmet was drawn out into a long tail…

    …The German-style sallet was the model for the World War I German Stahlhelm…”

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    How did the British end up with that "pie plate" design--it doesn't appear to protect much of anything. I've read that it was designed to protect from projectiles coming down from the top, but how often does that happen? I've read that the German design provided better protection for the neck.

    Studying head wounds has got to have been one of the most depressing medical exercises ever.
  192. http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/23/charlotte-rampling-i-regret-that-oscars-racism-comment-was-misinterpreted

    Yo, L.A. Times: You forgot to mention most academy voters are part of a minority group
    by Danielle Berrin February 21, 2012
    So even though it may not seem politically correct to acknowledge that Hollywood’s Jews are in fact a minority (this does not absolve the academy for its lack of diversity elsewhere, specifically in the female and African American population), it is true nonetheless. Complaining that the academy lacks minority voices is actually false; what it lacks is diversity. But then I ask you, who says the leaders of an industry have to represent the population at large? .

    Hoist by their own petard.

    I am much amused that the minority-majority industry based in Hollywood is getting a taste of the medicine it has been ramming down the world’s throat.

    Ms Rampling’s cheekbones are nothing special for a black woman.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    mentioning cheek bones: when will it dawn on people (thinking about today's NYT editorial w/ photo) that well, Oscar looks too Nordic - with his big forehead and high cheek bones, small nose, prominent chin... I wonder when the statue has to be redesigned...at least, to be more androgynous - the shoulders are too massive. And, that sword (is it a sword?) must go.
  193. @SFG
    It wasn't that exactly. He saw himself as being courageous enough to face his people's dark side to criticize it, and when he saw white people getting a kick out of it...well, you do the math.

    It's one of those things where I don't like what happened but I can't really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    get Southerners to shape up

    What do you mean by this? What needs shaping up?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I guess it was a hypothetical example. He didn't actually mean white Southerners could actually have social pathologies.
    , @SFG
    Overeating, overdrinking, children out of wedlock, not finishing high school...

    I'm not saying the North doesn't have other things wrong with it, BTW. (If you're an evangelical Christian, for example, the abortion laws basically mean it's a mass-murder factory.)
    Every place has problems. My point is if you were trying to encourage your own 'team' to behave better and the other 'team' grabbed it and ran with it to make fun of your 'team', however you define 'team' (black people/white people/Northerners/Southerners), you'd feel pretty awful too.

    , @SFG
    Addendum:

    I don't hate the South--I was flipping the situation from a blue-coded group to a red-coded group to show I understood how Chappelle felt. (Calling out Jews wouldn't work for rhetorical purposes because they'd still be on 'the other side', but the equivalent would be Larry David getting a following on the alt-right.) I know y'all get a lot of insults from Yankees and I wasn't intending to add to that, believe me. Sorry if it looked like I was.
  194. @PV van der Byl
    Do you think that is because the relative quality of US health care declined?

    It’s not the quality of our healthcare, it’s what healthcare providers are providing.

    As iSteve regulars are probably sick of hearing, my girlfriend is a nurse case manager at Boston’s main provider of care to the minority community. She has about reached her breaking point with the crap going on.

    About a year ago the hospital started an initiative to ensure that they get paid; when 65% of your patients are Medicaid and you’re getting 30 cents on the dollar for their care, you’d better make sure to get that 30 cents. Being a trusted and motivated employee (RN, nursing masters, certified case manager), she was asked to be the CM lead to make sure docs were coding patients properly, essential for billing the government; she maintains they are far stricter than the insurance companies about the Ts being crossed and Is being dotted.

    Over the past year, she’s discovered things like Medicaid and “free care” (hospital code for illegals) recipients getting elective plastic surgery like breast enhancements and tummy tucks. Gastric bypass for the virbant community is off the charts. International patients from the Middle East, desirable because they pay cash on the barrel head, actually paying at about 60% full price (hey, it’s a haggling culture) and the continued overuse of the ER by the Medicaid-American community, something that was supposed to be eradicated by Obamacare.

    One of her tasks was to verify usage by the “frequent flyers”, non-chronic condition patients with excessive visits. The most egregious was an immigrant with FIFTY-THREE visits the previous fiscal year, all for OD or injuries related to his substance abuse. The cops get a call, the ambulance shows up and takes him to the hospital. Everyone gets a piece of the action except the taxpayers.

    As ol’ Reg says, it’s not the quality of the healthcare, it’s the quality of US residents.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Agreed. And thanks for corroboration from your girlfriend.
  195. @Brutusale
    Al Leong or William Wong?

    Steve’s late neighbor was named Bill. There was actually one William and two Bills playing Wing Kong Hatchet Men. William Wong is still alive. I almost posted Bill Ryusaki, but looking him up it appeared he was still alive also. I looked at the cast list more thoroughly and saw there was a second Bill to look up. And then I had the answer.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    IMDB sure listed a lot of "Wing Kong Hatchet Men"!

    Is it in Al Leong's contract that whenever there's a scene in a Hollywood movie calling for an Asian tough guy, he gets the right of first refusal?

  196. @Diversity Heretic
    I don't think that the difference is in the emergency rooms--the difference is how much the first responders try to treat the injury at the scene, as opposed to seeking only to stabilize the patient and transport him or her as soon as possible. Either point of view has its defenders. From the little I know about Princess Diana, her internal injuries were so extensive and massive that only a miracle could have saved her. She did make it to the emergency room, but died there.

    Best advice: Always fasten your seat belt and shoulder harness! The fellow who did so in Princess Diana's car walked away from the crash.

    According to retired ER doctors I have talked to, in 1997 Diana would have had roughly fifty-fity chances even in 1997 were she brought to a first class US trauma center within ten to fifteen minutes, and today somewhat better. The French approach is considered ridiculous.

  197. @Steve Sailer
    "Well, they *were* designed by Hugo Boss."

    It seems pretty random what gets demonized for being associated with the Nazis: Francis Galton is constantly denounced as a proto-Nazi (but not Charles Darwin), while the Volkswagen and Hugo Boss brands don't seem to suffer at all from their intimate association with Hitler. Volkswagen still makes the Beetle, which has been renovated in recent years to look more like a WWII Wehrmacht helmet. Hitler didn't design the Beetle, but he gave Dr. Porsche the specs for it, which were drawn up very much in mind that Germany was going to conquer an American-sized Empire in Eastern Europe.

    I was at Bloomingdales before Christmas looking at suits, and a large fraction of their suits were Hugo Boss.

    I don't get it.

    I mean, I get that fashion and fascism go together, but I don't get being that blatant about it.

    Actually, the car that became the VW Beetle was originally based on designs by (Jewish) Josef Ganz.
    Phttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Superior

  198. Here are some numbers to advance the discussion: http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/01/film-and-race

    If go by Oscar wins per capita, it’s not blacks who are absent, but Hispanics and Asians. But blacks win, because they whine.

    Some of you might recall a study has shown that police officers are statistically more likely to hesitate using lethal force on black suspects than on whites.

    The theme here is that blacks actually enjoy favorable outcomes due to social construction, but whine the most about being losers in the system.

  199. OT: ‘How Labour turned London into a foreign city’ – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-3412616/How-Labour-turned-London-foreign-city.html – impressively comprehensive. I recognise the bit about the Somali gangs of south London, they put my neighbour in hospital from a violent home invasion.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    But it's not really OT, is it?
  200. Surprised our resident Zardoz fan hasn’t remarked upon Rampling’s performance. Before there was Borat, there was… Zardoz!

    https://cloudpix.co/still-of-sean-connery-and–in-zardoz-zardoz-charlotte-rampling-462345.html

    Rampling was good in it IIRC.

  201. “If go by Oscar wins per capita, it’s not blacks who are absent, but Hispanics and Asians. But blacks win, because they whine.”

    Bingo, as you Americans say, “the squeaky wheel gets the grease.”

    Rather appropriately, the first time I heard this phrase was from a left-leaning black American political science lecturer.

  202. Forget the Nazis. The Chinese army in the Korean War had the snazziest uniforms:

  203. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:
    @reiner Tor
    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    “What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.”

    I’ve seen some of Hitler’s artwork online and it is quite impressive. The whole line about him being a “failed artist” is, like so much that we have heard about him, rather misleading.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I wasn't too impressed. But I was a bit impressed by some of the builings he had built, the uniforms he chose for his troops and the Nuremberg rallies.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I agree that the artwork I've seen by Hitler is fairly good, better than what most American art students are capable of today. However, you can be a fairly capable artist and still be unable to make a living at it or get critical praise. That may make you a failed artist, depending on your expectations. I know many artists who have failed in that sense.

    I don't know enough about Hitler to know whether his experience as an artist had some major effect on his life. The theory sounds kind of simplistic.
  204. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:
    @Brutusale
    One of the funnier bits in the piece of holiday fluff from a few years ago, The Holiday, was the Jewish Hollywood writer, talked into accepting an award by Kate Winslet's character, needing a new suit for the ceremony. When Winslet went to meet him, he was resplendent in his new attire, and his comment was "I like this Hugo Boss. He cuts a nice suit!"

    Nancy Meyers is a bit underrated. She makes very good fluff.

  205. @Harry Baldwin
    (and people like me posting things like this on boards like this is why Dave Chappelle quit)

    When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.

    “When Chappelle realized that his depictions of black behavior were funny because they were accurate rather than ironic he couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance.”

    Chappelle pointed out both black destructiveness and white bigotry with equal ferocity, with the underlying theme being social conditions driving racial discord.

    Also, Chappelle left Comedy Central for this reason…

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/dave-chappelle-confesses-left-tv-family-article-1.1860672

  206. This is a nice-looking movie but so inane. Bubble of privilege.
    One of those movies that say ‘you are special because you are you’.

  207. @SFG
    It wasn't that exactly. He saw himself as being courageous enough to face his people's dark side to criticize it, and when he saw white people getting a kick out of it...well, you do the math.

    It's one of those things where I don't like what happened but I can't really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    “It’s one of those things where I don’t like what happened but I can’t really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?”

    Probably because 1) Chappelle was targeting that crowd and 2) his writing partner, Neal Brennan, was a white Irish-Catholic.

    https://vimeo.com/61499874

    So, SFG, who is on your team?

    • Replies: @SFG
    America? Not good enough for you, I know.

    I don't know. I have a pretty blue-state background but after reading Howard Zinn and the rest of them I started wondering, "OK. The right is lying to me about colonialism, pollution, and corporate control of everything. What is the *left* lying to me about?" The rest you can figure out.

    I'm sympathetic to the white working class because they do a lot for this country and get screwed coming and going, but I can't really say I belong to them--I graduated from college and grad school.

    , @Corvinus
    "America? Not good enough for you, I know."

    Actually, that's a great choice.

    "I don’t know. I have a pretty blue-state background but after reading Howard Zinn and the rest of them I started wondering, “OK. The right is lying to me about colonialism, pollution, and corporate control of everything. What is the *left* lying to me about?” The rest you can figure out."

    It's not lies, it's just misrepresentations. The Coalition Of The Right and the Left are notorious for stretching things to fit a particular worldview.
  208. @Simon in London
    OT: 'How Labour turned London into a foreign city' - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-3412616/How-Labour-turned-London-foreign-city.html - impressively comprehensive. I recognise the bit about the Somali gangs of south London, they put my neighbour in hospital from a violent home invasion.

    But it’s not really OT, is it?

  209. @Anon
    Bernie Sanders vs the two loud black girls.

    Hollywood vs Jada and Spike.

    Jews vs blacks.

    But let's pretend it's all about 'whites'.

    PS. Donald Sterling must be laughing.

    Just thinking about it, Trump vs Sanders is a dream match up for Trump. All he has to do is replay the BLM Sanders protest for an advertisement, over and over. No one wants a weak leader.

  210. @Big Bill
    Tyler Perry is a healthy, well-adjusted Negro. He tells the stories of his people (his audiences) in a way that they love.

    Tyler Perry is not p!ssing and moaning about how the Shakespeare, NPR, and Masterpiece Theatre crowd at the Academy don't love him, watch his movies and give him awards.

    He took BT Washington's advice and "cast down his bucket" right where he was and makes entertaining movies. He is devoid of the desperate need for white affirmation, white approval, and white blessing that the Duboisian "Talented Tenth" are burdened with.

    And he has gotten rich.

    And there are other movies made by blacks for blacks that do well with black audiences: The Think Like a Man series, etc.

  211. @(((Owen)))
    "Universal healthcare works in lots of places. You have to raise taxes to do it, of course, but we have some of the lower tax rates in the world overall (though the corporate tax rate is pretty high)."

    American low tax rates are a myth. If you include state income and sales taxes and mandatory health care insurance as a tax, it adds up to a higher rate than most of the European and Asian first world welfare states oblige their citizens to pay. Belgium and Denmark may match US style rates -- though very few pay those rates -- but England, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, and Italy have distinctly lower total rates at every income level.

    And the USA doesn't just have pretty high corporate rates. The USA has the highest corporate income tax rates in any first world nation. Japan used to be a tiny bit higher but PM Abe reformed the system because it was choking businesses and jobs.

    Right, and the US taxes all corporate income regardless of where it was earned. No other country taxes worldwide income, which is one reason many corporations are “leaving” the US.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    Rubbish.

    They have earned $2.1 trillion abroad on which they've paid no tax.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-corporate-cash-stashed-overseas-2015-3
  212. @el topo
    "What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities."

    I've seen some of Hitler's artwork online and it is quite impressive. The whole line about him being a "failed artist" is, like so much that we have heard about him, rather misleading.

    I wasn’t too impressed. But I was a bit impressed by some of the builings he had built, the uniforms he chose for his troops and the Nuremberg rallies.

  213. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that this comment I left at the Grauniad’s coverage didn’t get deleted.

    “Well what a shock, the people who created the civilized world continue to be the best at it.”

  214. @Jonathan Mason
    So who was really the best actor movies this year, and how would one know if one was not an expert in acting or making movies? Does one expect a superior acting performance from an actor who is paid more? Do they get points for learning their lines quickly, or for needing less takes and being more cost efficient?

    Ronald Reagan was a very efficient actor, which made him a natural choice for making instructional movies for the Army during WWII.

    Laurence Olivier was an efficient actor. Marilyn Monroe was a notoriously inefficient actress. There was a movie a few years ago about Olivier trying to direct Monroe in what turned out to be a flop.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Steve , That movie about Olivier and Monroe was the wonderful " My Week with Marilyn." Michelle Williams won an Oscar for her portrayal of Monroe .
  215. @Drake
    Despite the controversy black actors have been won Oscars in line with the percentage of the population.

    http://imgur.com/T2TqB9s

    The problem with using U.S. demographics is that there are many foreign actors like Charlotte Rampling nominated for white roles. Especially from Canada and the United Kingdom. The one foreign black actor here is Lupita Nyong’o. So American black actors could be heavily over represented compared with American white actors.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Right, Australian/New Zealanders, for example, have gotten a lot of nominations in recent decades.

    And there are a few Continental Europeans who have broken through and get regularly rewarded by the Academy like Marion Cotillard, Tarantino's talkative guy (whose names slips my mind), and soon Miss Vikander of Sweden. As English becomes a near universal second language in Europe, that proportion will likely only ramp up. There have always been European stars who made it big in Hollywood, but working class Euros who couldn't master English as an adult (e.g., Depardieu) couldn't really breakthrough. But the % of Continentals who can't make themselves comprehensible in English is falling.

  216. @iffen
    get Southerners to shape up

    What do you mean by this? What needs shaping up?

    I guess it was a hypothetical example. He didn’t actually mean white Southerners could actually have social pathologies.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I was just picking at him, not really upset. I think he has a pretty good analogy there.

    It does bear upon the question of just who gets to point out group differences. It also illustrates the ease with which people feel free to say almost anything about Southerners and rednecks. Putting that aside, what is considered pathological behavior today could have been a virtue 400 or 500 hundred years ago in a certain little border area. In point of fact, we don’t really know what lies ahead; such tendencies may be useful again.
  217. @Clyde

    the average active movie career of actresses is shorter than the average movie career of actors, at least if they don’t have the bone structure of Charlotte Rampling.
     
    Exquisite high bone structure to be exact and with a cruel or intriguing mouth. Feminine but with an underlying yang streak. Guys must see photos of her when she was in her 20s and 30s (year old) movies like the Night Porter. I am not surprised she spoke out and God bless her for doing so while the white guys cringe and duck for cover.

    There were several years where she was the sexiest woman on the planet.

  218. @George Glass
    The problem with using U.S. demographics is that there are many foreign actors like Charlotte Rampling nominated for white roles. Especially from Canada and the United Kingdom. The one foreign black actor here is Lupita Nyong'o. So American black actors could be heavily over represented compared with American white actors.

    Right, Australian/New Zealanders, for example, have gotten a lot of nominations in recent decades.

    And there are a few Continental Europeans who have broken through and get regularly rewarded by the Academy like Marion Cotillard, Tarantino’s talkative guy (whose names slips my mind), and soon Miss Vikander of Sweden. As English becomes a near universal second language in Europe, that proportion will likely only ramp up. There have always been European stars who made it big in Hollywood, but working class Euros who couldn’t master English as an adult (e.g., Depardieu) couldn’t really breakthrough. But the % of Continentals who can’t make themselves comprehensible in English is falling.

  219. Just another in a NEVER ending flow of “teachable moments” proving that whites will NEVER have a day’s worth of peace and sanity in something resembling their own land as long as they DON’T HAVE their own land.

  220. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160121/1033501730/germany-swede-crime-train.html

    During the Holocaust, so many Europeans couldn’t see that Jews were no longer there.

    In the Eurocaust, so many Europeans can’t see that invaders are really here.

    If a man’s daughter was raped and killed by the invaders, he would just have to go on like he isn’t aware of her absence and the presence of hordes of aliens.

    Same thing in Rotherham.

    “Where are your girls?”

    “I don’t know.”

    “Maybe they were kidnapped. But by whom?”

    “I don’t know.”

    The alien hordes are visible as ‘welcomed guests’ but invisible as criminal threats.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    During the Holocaust, so many Europeans couldn’t see that Jews were no longer there.

    You know what? The Europeans in occupied Europe were a little frigging busy themselves. I know the University of Hollywood's history department may not have told you but there were lots of Gentiles busy being killed, sent to forced labour camps and bombed around that time. You know those iconic photos and bits of film showing the corpses being bulldozed into pits at Buchenwald and Dachau? Most of those people were not Jews. Same thing with the camp survivors we see in the footage. It turns out the Nazi regime was bad for all kinds of people. Isn't that, like, totally weird?

    Look up "Forced labour under German rule during World War II" at Wikipedia if you have a spare moment. Or, if not, just wait for Hollywood to make a movie about it or for the rest of the mass media to get you up to speed on things.

    I love the rest of your post as well. It seems like Internet-Americans have an infinite appetite for schadenfreude when bad things happen to decadent, appeasing old Europe. How's that White flight working out for you guys? You guys getting all John Wayne on their ass?
  221. @Diversity Heretic
    I've visited a number of World War II museums and read quite a few books containing photographs. I've always thought that the German Army and the Waffen SS (the National Socialist German Workers Party had its own brown uniform) had the snazziest field grey uniforms. They fought in a bad cause, of course, but they were well-dressed doing so.

    Very dapper. But horrible for the Russian winters.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Good point. I think that the Wehrmacht had winter uniforms as early as 1941 (Germany is not a tropical country and Alpine troops always needed winter clothing), but didn't issue them because they thought that the campaign would be over by October. Bad guess, although I don't think winter uniforms would have been a war winner.

    By 1942 things had improved, partially through German civilian clothing donations and partially through thefts from the mouchiks (the Landser reasoned, probably correctly, that Russian peasants knew how to keep warm in a Russian winter). One problem was keeping the head warm while wearing a steel helmet-lots of insulation, which means that the helmet fits poorly, which means it might not be worn, so no head protection. Those fur caps look great in pictures but don't do much to deflect shell splinters.

  222. @Desiderius

    Lately, current events have seemed like an orchestrated recruitment tool for Trump. Uncanny how that works when the concerns you articulate reflect reality.
     
    Runaway black entitlement works against the Black Party. That does help Trump most directly in that he's the natural destination for fleeing whites, but anything that weakens that party helps the non-Black party, whoever their nominee is.

    I.e. they'll vote for Trump, but if they just don't turnout for the Black Party, that alone could swing the balance.

    It works both ways though. Trump’s promotion of and dogwhistling to the neo-Nazi elements of his base in public outlets like Twitter will also help mobilize the Dems.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
    Donald Trump doesn't care about Nazi people.
    , @Desiderius
    Maybe.

    SJWs and SWPLs (far from mutually exclusive groups) were already turning out anyway, although some young feminists may stay home upon learning of Hill's treatment of Bill's bimbos. That is if she's even the nominee. If she dodges indictment, we might also see gov workers sitting on their hands in protest, which would be another unforeseen loss.

    White blue-collar voters (such as union households) could care less about any dogwhistling.
  223. @flyingtiger
    Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything.

    “Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything.”

    And even better in nothing.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    Cattrall was married to high end audio vendor and occasional music producer Mark Levinson and they co-wrote ...a sex manual:

    http://www.amazon.com/Satisfaction-Female-Orgasm-Kim-Cattrall-ebook/dp/B001J2UVPW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453607884


    Later they divorced.

    At the time there was a lot of mention of the stated causes, but a cursory Google search reveals that much has been cleaned up and now the divorce statement of Cattrall (basically, he was sexually insatiable and excessively demanding) is tougher to find. Wikipedia's page on Levinson omits mention of the Cattrall marriage entirely.
  224. @iffen
    I have read a few of the pieces by TNC and I disagree with what you have written.

    #1 – Blacks, as a group, do not perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Anytime this is referenced it is because whites have “crippled “ the efforts of blacks. Black slavery created the modern world so the modern world is a black creation.

    #2 – Since there is no intrinsic difference between whites and blacks by nature,


    Blacks and whites are eternally different. White owners – black slaves created an eternal dynamic.

    #3 – And since there is nothing wrong with black culture, which addresses nurture,

    There is nothing wrong with black culture because “wrong” has been defined by whites. Running away from slavery was defined as a crime, therefore, raping and slicing up 80 year old grandmothers are not criminal acts because being black is used to define what is crime.

    #4 – The disparity of outcomes is a moral wrong that can only be rectified by various forms of reparations (aka mandated privilege for blacks) until blacks, as a group, perform as well as whites, as a group.

    Nowhere (that I have read) does he expressly or implicitly say that reparations will cause the disparate criminal behavior (which doesn’t exist in the first place) of blacks to go away. Reparations are eternal. It is an indemnity to be paid forever by whites to blacks.

    The history of the world did not start with black slavery by whites.

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Why don’t blacks do well in any part of the world? When have they ever? Why do the Chinese do well everywhere they go? If whites enslaving blacks are the sole cause of black problems and there are no differences in ability, how did whites come to be in the position to enslave blacks? Why do blacks still contribute so little to science? Why does no other racial ethnic group in the world commit as much violence as blacks? Why do the vast majority of other groups/cultures/etc have more peaceful and more advanced societies?

    These questions could go on forever and only a feeble mind will think “racism” is the answer.

    • Replies: @Bliss

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?
     
    Foolish ignoramus:

    http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/sphinx_0.jpg
  225. @SFG
    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics, at least from the action-movie point of view. It's more of a reflection of the age.

    My first thought after the movie was, "That didn't make much sense, but the cinematography and set design guys should get extra Oscars if that were possible!"

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics

    Actually, it reminded me of a long Lady Gaga music video. Visually interesting, but weirdly queer and pointless.

  226. @Anon7
    Maybe Ta-nehisi Coates could work it into his new reparations plan/argument:

    Reparations is not one possible tool against white supremacy. It is the indispensable tool against white supremacy.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/
     
    For example, we could agree to have only black winners for some period of time. Hopefully, we could pay it off sooner that way, rather than by offering just a few winners per year or offering a larger pool of nominees.

    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.
    They don’t want to equal whites, because then they’d have to keep earning it.
    They are lazy.
    I say we determine how much $$$$ they should get in reparations.
    Then subtract the decades of welfare/healthcare/affirmative Action…..
    from that amount.
    They can pay us the difference in taxes.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.
     
    This is state entitlement benefits recipients across all ethnic groups. And it includes elderly and disabled as well as the young underclass.

    Also many blacks do have jobs, some even very physically demanding jobs. And they resent the welfare cases too.
  227. @SFG
    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics, at least from the action-movie point of view. It's more of a reflection of the age.

    My first thought after the movie was, "That didn't make much sense, but the cinematography and set design guys should get extra Oscars if that were possible!"

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics,

    Maybe the most impressive thing about Fury Road is how George Miller managed to con people into thinking that it was a deeply radical and subversive film.Seriously, when would saying that women shouldn’t be treated as property and used as sex slaves count as daring?

    And Theron’s Furiosa hardly counts as some action movie breakthrough for women. Cf Ripley in Aliens, Linda Hamilton in Terminator II, etc.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Dr. Miller's brilliant breakthrough on "Fury Road" was to pay cash money to a famous feminist ideologue for consulting and then go ahead and make his usual testosterone overload movie. Everybody was happy, and the ploy cost barely a rounding error in the budget.
  228. @Anon
    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160121/1033501730/germany-swede-crime-train.html

    During the Holocaust, so many Europeans couldn't see that Jews were no longer there.

    In the Eurocaust, so many Europeans can't see that invaders are really here.

    If a man's daughter was raped and killed by the invaders, he would just have to go on like he isn't aware of her absence and the presence of hordes of aliens.

    Same thing in Rotherham.

    "Where are your girls?"

    "I don't know."

    "Maybe they were kidnapped. But by whom?"

    "I don't know."

    The alien hordes are visible as 'welcomed guests' but invisible as criminal threats.

    During the Holocaust, so many Europeans couldn’t see that Jews were no longer there.

    You know what? The Europeans in occupied Europe were a little frigging busy themselves. I know the University of Hollywood’s history department may not have told you but there were lots of Gentiles busy being killed, sent to forced labour camps and bombed around that time. You know those iconic photos and bits of film showing the corpses being bulldozed into pits at Buchenwald and Dachau? Most of those people were not Jews. Same thing with the camp survivors we see in the footage. It turns out the Nazi regime was bad for all kinds of people. Isn’t that, like, totally weird?

    Look up “Forced labour under German rule during World War II” at Wikipedia if you have a spare moment. Or, if not, just wait for Hollywood to make a movie about it or for the rest of the mass media to get you up to speed on things.

    I love the rest of your post as well. It seems like Internet-Americans have an infinite appetite for schadenfreude when bad things happen to decadent, appeasing old Europe. How’s that White flight working out for you guys? You guys getting all John Wayne on their ass?

  229. @Brutusale
    It's not the quality of our healthcare, it's what healthcare providers are providing.

    As iSteve regulars are probably sick of hearing, my girlfriend is a nurse case manager at Boston's main provider of care to the minority community. She has about reached her breaking point with the crap going on.

    About a year ago the hospital started an initiative to ensure that they get paid; when 65% of your patients are Medicaid and you're getting 30 cents on the dollar for their care, you'd better make sure to get that 30 cents. Being a trusted and motivated employee (RN, nursing masters, certified case manager), she was asked to be the CM lead to make sure docs were coding patients properly, essential for billing the government; she maintains they are far stricter than the insurance companies about the Ts being crossed and Is being dotted.

    Over the past year, she's discovered things like Medicaid and "free care" (hospital code for illegals) recipients getting elective plastic surgery like breast enhancements and tummy tucks. Gastric bypass for the virbant community is off the charts. International patients from the Middle East, desirable because they pay cash on the barrel head, actually paying at about 60% full price (hey, it's a haggling culture) and the continued overuse of the ER by the Medicaid-American community, something that was supposed to be eradicated by Obamacare.

    One of her tasks was to verify usage by the "frequent flyers", non-chronic condition patients with excessive visits. The most egregious was an immigrant with FIFTY-THREE visits the previous fiscal year, all for OD or injuries related to his substance abuse. The cops get a call, the ambulance shows up and takes him to the hospital. Everyone gets a piece of the action except the taxpayers.

    As ol' Reg says, it's not the quality of the healthcare, it's the quality of US residents.

    Agreed. And thanks for corroboration from your girlfriend.

  230. @syonredux

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the politics,
     
    Maybe the most impressive thing about Fury Road is how George Miller managed to con people into thinking that it was a deeply radical and subversive film.Seriously, when would saying that women shouldn't be treated as property and used as sex slaves count as daring?

    And Theron's Furiosa hardly counts as some action movie breakthrough for women. Cf Ripley in Aliens, Linda Hamilton in Terminator II, etc.

    Dr. Miller’s brilliant breakthrough on “Fury Road” was to pay cash money to a famous feminist ideologue for consulting and then go ahead and make his usual testosterone overload movie. Everybody was happy, and the ploy cost barely a rounding error in the budget.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Jesse Jackson would be shocked. Shocked!
  231. @Anonymous
    It works both ways though. Trump's promotion of and dogwhistling to the neo-Nazi elements of his base in public outlets like Twitter will also help mobilize the Dems.

    Donald Trump doesn’t care about Nazi people.

    • Replies: @iffen
    No! No! He needs all 200 votes.
    , @SFG
    I don't think he cares about anyone except Donald Trump. Which makes him like a lot of politicians.
  232. @Jim Don Bob
    Right, and the US taxes all corporate income regardless of where it was earned. No other country taxes worldwide income, which is one reason many corporations are "leaving" the US.

    Rubbish.

    They have earned $2.1 trillion abroad on which they’ve paid no tax.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-corporate-cash-stashed-overseas-2015-3

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    They haven't paid US tax precisely because they have kept the cash abroad in jurisdictions with much lower corporate tax rates.

    Higher US taxes rates don't result in much higher revenue.
  233. @reiner Tor
    I guess it was a hypothetical example. He didn't actually mean white Southerners could actually have social pathologies.

    I was just picking at him, not really upset. I think he has a pretty good analogy there.

    It does bear upon the question of just who gets to point out group differences. It also illustrates the ease with which people feel free to say almost anything about Southerners and rednecks. Putting that aside, what is considered pathological behavior today could have been a virtue 400 or 500 hundred years ago in a certain little border area. In point of fact, we don’t really know what lies ahead; such tendencies may be useful again.

  234. @Simon in London
    Donald Trump doesn't care about Nazi people.

    No! No! He needs all 200 votes.

  235. @Steve Sailer
    Dr. Miller's brilliant breakthrough on "Fury Road" was to pay cash money to a famous feminist ideologue for consulting and then go ahead and make his usual testosterone overload movie. Everybody was happy, and the ploy cost barely a rounding error in the budget.

    Jesse Jackson would be shocked. Shocked!

  236. @boogerbently
    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.
    They don't want to equal whites, because then they'd have to keep earning it.
    They are lazy.
    I say we determine how much $$$$ they should get in reparations.
    Then subtract the decades of welfare/healthcare/affirmative Action.....
    from that amount.
    They can pay us the difference in taxes.

    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.

    This is state entitlement benefits recipients across all ethnic groups. And it includes elderly and disabled as well as the young underclass.

    Also many blacks do have jobs, some even very physically demanding jobs. And they resent the welfare cases too.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    This is state entitlement benefits recipients across all ethnic groups. And it includes elderly and disabled as well as the young underclass.

    Also many blacks do have jobs, some even very physically demanding jobs. And they resent the welfare cases too.
     
    No, I don't think you understand how it works in this country. There may be some Black workers who resent "the welfare cases", but the fact is that most Blacks -- 70% or more -- are on welfare at some point in their lives.
  237. @reiner Tor
    I think only the SS uniforms, but all German uniforms looked cool.

    German helmets were for example roughly the same since 1916, and they did look cooler than those of other combatants. (Hungarian helmets were based on the same design, too, but the German helmets looked slightly cooler, and the uniforms in general were way cooler.)

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.

    People also don’t like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn’t too bad either. Fascism does have style.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    also don’t like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn’t too bad either. Fascism does have style.
     
    A lot of Fascist-era architecture survives in Asmara, the capital of Eritrea. Unfortunately, no architecture of any kind survives in Mogadishu.
    , @Anonymous
    Nazi architecture was not very good. It was sort of a brutalist classicism. It wasn't tasteful like neo-classical architecture. Have you ever seen Hitler's plans for Germania, his rebuilding of Berlin? It was very tacky with things like an enormous, monstrous dome in the middle. Part of the function seems to have been to be a jobs program, so that may be partly why it was bad.

    Also, a lot of it was indistinguishable from the concrete blocks you see in communist countries:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/former-nazi-seaside-resort-attracts-berlin-investors-a-901248.html
  238. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    As a kid of the 80’s Big Trouble was by far my favorite action movie of the decade. It made me laugh more than any comedy of the 80’s not named “Top Secret”. I never understood why it didn’t make more money at the box office.

  239. @reiner Tor

    Darwin stayed away from this and opposed slavery
     
    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn't think it was reason enough to enslave them, just as the fact that animals are our inferiors doesn't mean we should be unnecessarily cruel to them or torture them.

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid.

    Aristotle thought the people of Europe north of Greece were stupid.

    If Darwin had visited central america during his expedition and eye-balled the giant 3500 years old Olmec head statues…..he would have become confused:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmufzzqMHKAhUP92MKHQ_BAxkQ_AUIBygB&biw=1097&bih=492

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid.



    If Darwin had visited central america during his expedition and eye-balled the giant 3500 years old Olmec head statues…..he would have become confused:
     
    Probably not, seeing as how the Olmecs were Amerinds....
    , @reiner Tor
    It doesn't matter if we're discussing that Darwin was as much a "racist" as Galton by today's standards. The main difference is that the focus of his work lay elsewhere.
  240. @Yak-15
    The history of the world did not start with black slavery by whites.

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn't they domesticate animals? Why didn't they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Why don't blacks do well in any part of the world? When have they ever? Why do the Chinese do well everywhere they go? If whites enslaving blacks are the sole cause of black problems and there are no differences in ability, how did whites come to be in the position to enslave blacks? Why do blacks still contribute so little to science? Why does no other racial ethnic group in the world commit as much violence as blacks? Why do the vast majority of other groups/cultures/etc have more peaceful and more advanced societies?

    These questions could go on forever and only a feeble mind will think "racism" is the answer.

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Foolish ignoramus:

    • Replies: @syonredux

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Foolish ignoramus:
     
    Dear fellow, he's clearly referring to Black Africans. Hence, Ancient Egyptian architecture is quite irrelevant.
    , @Yak-15
    Haha

    That must be a joke. Blacks do not equal Africans. Blacks are sub-Saharan Africans. Egyptians are not. The only hand the blacks would have had in building those structures is that under the lash of slave driver. And that much is doubtful.

    Recall that Egyptian Pharoahs wore dual crowns of upper and lower Egypt because the Nile Delta peoples conquered the Sudan. It was not the other way around.

    Go to Egypt today. Look at the population. Discover, as with all 3rd world countries, how people desperately avoid the sun for fear of being mistaken as black. Comb the population and find out how the few blacks outside of upper Egypt exist as servants or road sweepers. Ponder that they largely do not exist in that society and know that those that are in Egypt are of little importance. Meet the upper classes and note how they compete to find the blackest servant - for he/she is exotic and the more exotic/blacker, the richer the family.

    Ancient Egypt was not much different. If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.

    I've been to Egypt. I've lived in Egypt. There is little black about Egypt and it's extremely doubtful that there ever was.
  241. @Anonymous
    Hispanics actually have the highest life expectancy in the US for some reason. It's considered a paradox because education and affluence are generally assumed to be associated with longevity:

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/us-hispanics-longer-life-expectancy-white-black-americans/story?id=11883156

    1. Hispanics do NOT have the highest life expectancy in the U.S. Asians do.

    2. First generation Hispanics do well in life expectancy terms compared to whites and blacks, but subsequent generations don’t do well.

    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    I've read that Hispanic women don't drink much alcohol. So their children would not have had fetal alcohol syndrome before its discovery in 1983. That might account for their greater longevity.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Asian women also don't drink much alcohol compared to white and black women.

    Since FAS was discovered as a problem around 1983 perhaps the Hispanic and Asian advantage will be reduced for individuals born after 1983.
  242. “She is Rampling out the vinegar where the sour grapes are stored.”

  243. @SFG
    It wasn't that exactly. He saw himself as being courageous enough to face his people's dark side to criticize it, and when he saw white people getting a kick out of it...well, you do the math.

    It's one of those things where I don't like what happened but I can't really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    David Chappelle undoubtedly had tons of pressure from his fellow blacks to knock it off. That he was making all blacks look really foolish in the eyes of the white man. Of course other black comedians have done this but Chappelle was far too good at it

  244. @iffen
    get Southerners to shape up

    What do you mean by this? What needs shaping up?

    Overeating, overdrinking, children out of wedlock, not finishing high school…

    I’m not saying the North doesn’t have other things wrong with it, BTW. (If you’re an evangelical Christian, for example, the abortion laws basically mean it’s a mass-murder factory.)
    Every place has problems. My point is if you were trying to encourage your own ‘team’ to behave better and the other ‘team’ grabbed it and ran with it to make fun of your ‘team’, however you define ‘team’ (black people/white people/Northerners/Southerners), you’d feel pretty awful too.

    • Replies: @iffen
    See my #238.

    I question your idea that he was trying to get his "team" to behave better.

    It is quite complicated to me. Who gets to point out what? Who gets to laugh?
  245. @Steve Sailer
    He wasn't up at the Pat Morita level of acting by any means. He mostly played Henchman #3 type roles that used his martial arts skills (he been on the UCLA wrestling team and he taught multiple fighting methods, such as Brazilian ju-jitsu). He did a lot of his own fights and less complicated stunts. For example, we just watched the first part of 1986's "Big Trouble in Little China" (John Carpenter, Kurt Russell) where he's in early fight scenes as a "Wing Kong Hatchet Man." He's on screen for about 45 seconds of charging and fighting and screaming, and really stands out from the other Hatchet Men for intensity and commitment in throwing himself into the action. He was about 50 then.

    That movie tested really well so everybody expected it to be a big hit and launch a trend. But then it died at the box office. (But then it became popular on VHS ...) It would have been fun if the studio had gone ahead with their early idea of casting Jackie Chan as the #2, introducing him to American audiences about a decade before he finally crossed over.

    The Rock keeps talking about starring in a remake.

    From what I remember seeing somewhere at the time, “Big Trouble in Little China” was originally written as the sequel to “Buckaroo Banzai”, another movie that majorly flopped at the Box Office. It was essentially incomprehensible if you hadn’t read the comic book.

    Looks like the anti-white movement is moving into the “revolution is starting to eat its’ own” phase. The Reign of Terror in France, Stalin’s show trials stage. It’ll be curious to see how long it’ll take for a white backlash to start to grow into a political movement. {Usually, it takes a lot longer than I think it will.}. Hollywood is not going to like having it’s casting decisions dictated to it. They like controlling their own bottom line. We’ll see how long the marriage between Hollywood and the left holds. I expect Silicon Valley to come under increasing fire for their lack of diversity- another big funding source for leftist insanity.

    Finally, I met Charlotte Rampling years ago at a party in France. She was around 26 or 27 at the time. Nice, smart, very independent thinker- and easy on the eyes, too! Her companion was a mulatto clothing designer, I forget his name. Might have been French-Algerian. I believe he was gay, if memory serves. I don’t think she’s a racist in any way- just a realist who’s used to speaking truth to power. I see that the studio’s are pressuring her to walk back her comments. We’ll see if anything comes from it. Last I saw the studios were caving quickly.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Could Charlotte Rampling's remarks be an example of "elderly Tourette syndrome?"
  246. @Corvinus
    "It’s one of those things where I don’t like what happened but I can’t really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?"

    Probably because 1) Chappelle was targeting that crowd and 2) his writing partner, Neal Brennan, was a white Irish-Catholic.

    https://vimeo.com/61499874

    So, SFG, who is on your team?

    America? Not good enough for you, I know.

    I don’t know. I have a pretty blue-state background but after reading Howard Zinn and the rest of them I started wondering, “OK. The right is lying to me about colonialism, pollution, and corporate control of everything. What is the *left* lying to me about?” The rest you can figure out.

    I’m sympathetic to the white working class because they do a lot for this country and get screwed coming and going, but I can’t really say I belong to them–I graduated from college and grad school.

  247. @iffen
    get Southerners to shape up

    What do you mean by this? What needs shaping up?

    Addendum:

    I don’t hate the South–I was flipping the situation from a blue-coded group to a red-coded group to show I understood how Chappelle felt. (Calling out Jews wouldn’t work for rhetorical purposes because they’d still be on ‘the other side’, but the equivalent would be Larry David getting a following on the alt-right.) I know y’all get a lot of insults from Yankees and I wasn’t intending to add to that, believe me. Sorry if it looked like I was.

  248. Has she noticed movies like Machete or Harold and Kumar go to White Castle?

    Hollywood specializes in “racism against Whites”, 24/7/365.

    Charlotte Rampling should contemptuously spurn the proffered Oscar, and denounce the real anti-White racists (hint: not Spike Lee)

  249. @SFG
    I'm not sure having less ambitious doctors is such a bad thing--I hear way too many things about MDs being pressured to do more procedures by their hospital or group to increase the bottom line. I'm sure you've heard about all the stents put in even though they didn't increase lifespan, or people being prescribed more expensive medications even though the old cheap diuretics worked just as well treating hypertension.

    Steve? Fancy medicine saved your life...

    I’m a doctor, so I feel qualified to answer –

    Lay people can never tell how good a doctor is since they lack the expertise. But rest assured that increasing the numbers of lazy dummies in the medical field will result in a significant decline in outcomes. Of course, scientific advancement will mask this decline, much as it has masked the decline in physicians’ clinical skill over the last few decades.

    The need of the hour is for an open competitive system for doctors, where they are judged by outcomes and these outcomes are published for all to see. You’ll see the numbers of affirmative action physicians begin to drop real fast.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    C'mon, we can't have that. It would be telling the Truth, that the AA docs, Blacks, Hispanics, and yes women, are probably not as good as the Old White Guys.

    We can't let the proles know that!
    , @Anonymous
    There is a lot of variation in outcome even within any large series of procedures done by a single physician because patient characteristics vary so much. I would not trust the government administrators of such a database to be able to adjust for that appropriately. Depending how arbitrary and stupid the administrators are, it could open the door to unjustifiable "witch hunts."
  250. @Bliss

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid.
     
    Aristotle thought the people of Europe north of Greece were stupid.

    If Darwin had visited central america during his expedition and eye-balled the giant 3500 years old Olmec head statues.....he would have become confused:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmufzzqMHKAhUP92MKHQ_BAxkQ_AUIBygB&biw=1097&bih=492

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid.

    If Darwin had visited central america during his expedition and eye-balled the giant 3500 years old Olmec head statues…..he would have become confused:

    Probably not, seeing as how the Olmecs were Amerinds….

  251. @Bliss

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?
     
    Foolish ignoramus:

    http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/sphinx_0.jpg

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Foolish ignoramus:

    Dear fellow, he’s clearly referring to Black Africans. Hence, Ancient Egyptian architecture is quite irrelevant.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ' As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)


    Probably not, seeing as how the Olmecs were Amerinds….
     
    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiHn-GKu8HKAhUO3mMKHRBjDTEQsAQIGw#tbm=isch&q=olmec+stone+heads

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.

    By the way, there actually are dolls and small statuettes from the Olmec Era that look clearly north asian and clearly different from the gigantic head statues:

    http://www.crystalinks.com/olmecmotherchild.jpg

    http://www.crystalinks.com/olmecfigurines.jpg

  252. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    If the Oscars are really about excellence in cinema, the real outrage is that most of the awards are limited to English language movies. Not that I care about this, but people who demand real excellence + diversity should demand that Oscars get rid of the ghetto category of ‘best foreign film’ and open up all the nominations to world cinema.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, You are quite correct. Giving a sub-Oscar to a movie just because it wasn't made in Hollywood or filmed in English diminishes the value of "Best." Fellini Wertmuller , Kurasawa and Bergman directed movies that were the equal of anything Hollywood produced in the years that they were honored for a best foreign film.
  253. @Mark Green
    This Black/White divergence at the Oscars is really just the tip of Tinseltown's inequality iceberg.

    In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What's up with that, Spike?

    As for 'patterns of racial discrimination', consider how relatively invisible Asians and even Hispanics remain in Hollywood compared to Blacks. Time for a class-action suit, perhaps?

    Plus, a lot of viewers find blacks visually 'unappealing'. Shouldn't this matter?

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood. Why should Africans get a mandatory pass?

    Shouldn't we demand proportional representation for ugly Whites then?

    Plus, there are very few fat chicks or old babes on TV or in film. This persistent disparity will be very difficult to address. It may therefore require government action. Call out the National Guard!

    Indeed, since people (viewers) prefer attractive people over old and ugly (and primitive) people, excessive black visibility in TV and film constitutes an assault on 'choice' and even free markets. Beautiful lives matter, too!

    What America needs is an actual reduction in Black entertainers. Let Freedom ring!

    Lastly, the vast over-representation of Jews in Hollywood must be confronted if we are going to start imposing ethnic and racial quotas anywhere in the entertainment industry. Ha! This could get very interesting.

    Great point!
    “In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What’s up with that, Spike? ”

    The average American sucking on his Bud and watching football and sitcoms thinks Blacks are 33% of the total population. Why? Because they are everywhere in the media and on the tube they are usually represented as Doctors or academics and generally dripping with so much gravitas they barely crack a smile, at least in the commercials.

    “On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher. As many as 17% of Americans say the percentage of blacks is 50% or greater. Only 7% accurately state that the percentage of blacks falls between 10% and 14% of the entire population.”

    from here:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/4435/public-overestimates-us-black-hispanic-populations.aspx

    • Replies: @Bliss
    I see that you dishonestly neglected to note that americans also wildly exaggerate the number of hispanics in the US. From your own link:

    Americans, on average, say that 29% of the U.S. population is Hispanic, which is slightly more than twice the actual percentage of Hispanics. About two in five Americans say Hispanics constitute 30% or more of the population.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    “On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher
     
    They might be right, if you go by weight.
  254. @Twinkie
    1. Hispanics do NOT have the highest life expectancy in the U.S. Asians do.

    2. First generation Hispanics do well in life expectancy terms compared to whites and blacks, but subsequent generations don't do well.

    I’ve read that Hispanic women don’t drink much alcohol. So their children would not have had fetal alcohol syndrome before its discovery in 1983. That might account for their greater longevity.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Asian women also don’t drink much alcohol compared to white and black women.

    Since FAS was discovered as a problem around 1983 perhaps the Hispanic and Asian advantage will be reduced for individuals born after 1983.

  255. Section 8 promises more vibrant fun for your kids.

  256. @syonredux

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?

    Foolish ignoramus:
     
    Dear fellow, he's clearly referring to Black Africans. Hence, Ancient Egyptian architecture is quite irrelevant.

    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ‘ As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)

    Probably not, seeing as how the Olmecs were Amerinds….

    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiHn-GKu8HKAhUO3mMKHRBjDTEQsAQIGw#tbm=isch&q=olmec+stone+heads

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.

    By the way, there actually are dolls and small statuettes from the Olmec Era that look clearly north asian and clearly different from the gigantic head statues:

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ‘ As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)
     
    Still quoting Volney, eh?Well, here's someone who's just a tad more up-to-date:

    Frank Snowden:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    The assumption that a majority of the inhabitants of north Africa such as Numidians, Gaetulians, and Moors, were blacks, is also contradicted by the ancient evidence. Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians who lived on the southern fringes of the area. The ancient sources also point to the presence in northwest Africa of mixed black-white types, strongly suggested by names such as Libyoaethiopes (Libyan Ethiopians), Leucoaethiopes (white Ethiopians) and Melanogeatuli (black Gaetulians), a kind of intermediate population, an amalgam of whites and Ethiopians, and by the descriptions of the Garamantes, classified in some classical texts as Ethiopians but distinguished from Ethiopians by others. [15] Classical accounts of the physical features of northwest Africans are amply confirmed by the iconographical evidence. Mosaics, sculpture in the round, and other art objects from northwest Africa depict the inhabitants as predominantly white and portray relatively few blacks, far fewer than in the art of the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.
     

    Further, Diop overlooks the fact that classical authors regularly differentiated between Egyptians and Ethiopians. The Indians south of the Ganges, though browned by the sun, Arrian observed, were not so dark as Ethiopians, whereas northern Indians resembled Egyptians. Finally, it should be noted that Egyptian artists at various times from the middle of the third millennium BC onward depicted southerners (Kushites, Nubians) with tightly coiled hair and thick lips–characteristics clearly differing from those in their portrayals of Egyptians. Further, Egyptian painters often used a carbon black color in representations of Kushites, a reddish tint for Egyptian men and a paler hue for Egyptian women. This important evidence does not mean that there were not inhabitants of Egypt who were apparently racially mixed. In fact, the earliest recognizable portrait of a black in Egyptian art is preserved in a limestone head (ca. 2600 BC) of the Negroid wife of an Egyptian prince from Giza, near modern Cairo. [12] The Negroid archers and their Egyptian wives depicted on stelae at Gebelein were not the only soldiers in the Egyptian army whose wives were Egyptians. Flavius Philostratus may also have had mixed black-white types in mind when he observed that people in the neighborhood of the Egyptian-Nubian boundary were not completely black, but half-breeds in color, not so black as Ethiopians but darker than Egyptians.
     

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     
    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:
     
    Clearly,dear fellow, you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.And, aside from Afrocentric cranks, no one thinks that Black Africans built them.

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.
     
    And, since they were built by Amerinds, they are not helping your claims regarding Black Africans....
  257. @Bill Jones
    Rubbish.

    They have earned $2.1 trillion abroad on which they've paid no tax.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-corporate-cash-stashed-overseas-2015-3

    They haven’t paid US tax precisely because they have kept the cash abroad in jurisdictions with much lower corporate tax rates.

    Higher US taxes rates don’t result in much higher revenue.

  258. @Robert Hume
    "What have you guys done lately?"

    Goddard - Rockets
    Lavoisier- quantitative chemistry
    Mendeleev - Periodic Table
    J Willard Gibbs - Physical Chem.
    Haber & Bosch - nitrogen fertilizer
    Werner Heisenberg - QM
    Erwin Schrodinger - QM
    Dirac - QM
    Einstein - Special & General Relativity
    Hubble - size of universe, Big Bang
    Glashow, Salam, Weinberg - Standard Model of Particle Physics
    Edison - electric light, recording
    Bell - Telephone
    Ford - mass production
    Fessenden - radio
    Turing - computer theory
    John Atanasoff- first digital computer
    Tom Flowers- first programmable digital computer
    Wegener - continental drift
    Fermi - nuclear fission
    Pauling -quantum chemistry
    Szent Gyorgyi and Krebs - citric acid/Krebs cycle
    Crick - DNA
    Borlaug - Green Revolution
    Shannon - Information Theory
    Shockley - transistor
    Backus - Fortran
    Thompson - UNIX
    Ritchie - C
    Codd - Relational Databases
    Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn - Internet-TCP
    Tim Berners Lee - WWW, Browser

    Watson & Crick- DNA. Don’t Watsonize him like the SJWs do!

    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    It's a personal technical opinion. Watson never did much after DNA so I figure Crick was really the brains behind the operation. I agree with Watson's remarks that he got Watsoned for.
  259. @conatus
    Great point!
    "In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What’s up with that, Spike? "

    The average American sucking on his Bud and watching football and sitcoms thinks Blacks are 33% of the total population. Why? Because they are everywhere in the media and on the tube they are usually represented as Doctors or academics and generally dripping with so much gravitas they barely crack a smile, at least in the commercials.

    "On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher. As many as 17% of Americans say the percentage of blacks is 50% or greater. Only 7% accurately state that the percentage of blacks falls between 10% and 14% of the entire population."

    from here:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/4435/public-overestimates-us-black-hispanic-populations.aspx

    I see that you dishonestly neglected to note that americans also wildly exaggerate the number of hispanics in the US. From your own link:

    Americans, on average, say that 29% of the U.S. population is Hispanic, which is slightly more than twice the actual percentage of Hispanics. About two in five Americans say Hispanics constitute 30% or more of the population.

  260. @Bliss

    What contributions to science, math, language, technology, exploration, et al bids Africans make before slavery? Why didn’t they domesticate animals? Why didn’t they build advanced cities and lasting architectural structures?
     
    Foolish ignoramus:

    http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/sphinx_0.jpg

    Haha

    That must be a joke. Blacks do not equal Africans. Blacks are sub-Saharan Africans. Egyptians are not. The only hand the blacks would have had in building those structures is that under the lash of slave driver. And that much is doubtful.

    Recall that Egyptian Pharoahs wore dual crowns of upper and lower Egypt because the Nile Delta peoples conquered the Sudan. It was not the other way around.

    Go to Egypt today. Look at the population. Discover, as with all 3rd world countries, how people desperately avoid the sun for fear of being mistaken as black. Comb the population and find out how the few blacks outside of upper Egypt exist as servants or road sweepers. Ponder that they largely do not exist in that society and know that those that are in Egypt are of little importance. Meet the upper classes and note how they compete to find the blackest servant – for he/she is exotic and the more exotic/blacker, the richer the family.

    Ancient Egypt was not much different. If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.

    I’ve been to Egypt. I’ve lived in Egypt. There is little black about Egypt and it’s extremely doubtful that there ever was.

    • Replies: @Bliss

    If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.
     
    You must be blind as a bat if you think these ancient egyptians look white:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient+egypt&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir9ruK1sHKAhUH9mMKHWZYCTQQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ancient+egypt+paintings

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.
  261. @thinkingabout it
    I'm a doctor, so I feel qualified to answer -

    Lay people can never tell how good a doctor is since they lack the expertise. But rest assured that increasing the numbers of lazy dummies in the medical field will result in a significant decline in outcomes. Of course, scientific advancement will mask this decline, much as it has masked the decline in physicians' clinical skill over the last few decades.

    The need of the hour is for an open competitive system for doctors, where they are judged by outcomes and these outcomes are published for all to see. You'll see the numbers of affirmative action physicians begin to drop real fast.

    C’mon, we can’t have that. It would be telling the Truth, that the AA docs, Blacks, Hispanics, and yes women, are probably not as good as the Old White Guys.

    We can’t let the proles know that!

  262. @Mark Green
    This Black/White divergence at the Oscars is really just the tip of Tinseltown's inequality iceberg.

    In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What's up with that, Spike?

    As for 'patterns of racial discrimination', consider how relatively invisible Asians and even Hispanics remain in Hollywood compared to Blacks. Time for a class-action suit, perhaps?

    Plus, a lot of viewers find blacks visually 'unappealing'. Shouldn't this matter?

    Ugly white people, for instance, are routinely discriminated against in Hollywood. Why should Africans get a mandatory pass?

    Shouldn't we demand proportional representation for ugly Whites then?

    Plus, there are very few fat chicks or old babes on TV or in film. This persistent disparity will be very difficult to address. It may therefore require government action. Call out the National Guard!

    Indeed, since people (viewers) prefer attractive people over old and ugly (and primitive) people, excessive black visibility in TV and film constitutes an assault on 'choice' and even free markets. Beautiful lives matter, too!

    What America needs is an actual reduction in Black entertainers. Let Freedom ring!

    Lastly, the vast over-representation of Jews in Hollywood must be confronted if we are going to start imposing ethnic and racial quotas anywhere in the entertainment industry. Ha! This could get very interesting.

    I think discrimination against the obese is even more pervasive.

  263. @Massimo Heitor

    They have been given so much for so long just for being black, they think they deserve it.
     
    This is state entitlement benefits recipients across all ethnic groups. And it includes elderly and disabled as well as the young underclass.

    Also many blacks do have jobs, some even very physically demanding jobs. And they resent the welfare cases too.

    This is state entitlement benefits recipients across all ethnic groups. And it includes elderly and disabled as well as the young underclass.

    Also many blacks do have jobs, some even very physically demanding jobs. And they resent the welfare cases too.

    No, I don’t think you understand how it works in this country. There may be some Black workers who resent “the welfare cases”, but the fact is that most Blacks — 70% or more — are on welfare at some point in their lives.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    No, I don’t think you understand how it works in this country. There may be some Black workers who resent “the welfare cases”, but the fact is that most Blacks — 70% or more — are on welfare at some point in their lives.
     
    Most Americans are on some form of government welfare at some point, depending on which programs you include. Unemployment benefits are absolutely state welfare, and no one will object to workers who draw brief unemployment benefits while getting another job. Social security can arguably be classified as welfare even though people pay into it. If you include that, almost everyone draws welfare at some point in their lives.

    Blacks as a group have a lot of dysfunction and problems. I'm not denying that or trying to exaggerate it. As for people who are shameless about taking state aid, I think that's disgusting, but again, that's really not just a black problem. It is probably disproportionately more of a black problem than white, but lower class whites and mestizos and asians do it as well.

  264. @Bill Jones
    "Kim Catrell is gorgeous in everything."

    And even better in nothing.

    Cattrall was married to high end audio vendor and occasional music producer Mark Levinson and they co-wrote …a sex manual:

    Later they divorced.

    At the time there was a lot of mention of the stated causes, but a cursory Google search reveals that much has been cleaned up and now the divorce statement of Cattrall (basically, he was sexually insatiable and excessively demanding) is tougher to find. Wikipedia’s page on Levinson omits mention of the Cattrall marriage entirely.

  265. @dfordoom

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.
     
    People also don't like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn't too bad either. Fascism does have style.

    also don’t like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn’t too bad either. Fascism does have style.

    A lot of Fascist-era architecture survives in Asmara, the capital of Eritrea. Unfortunately, no architecture of any kind survives in Mogadishu.

  266. @Yak-15
    Haha

    That must be a joke. Blacks do not equal Africans. Blacks are sub-Saharan Africans. Egyptians are not. The only hand the blacks would have had in building those structures is that under the lash of slave driver. And that much is doubtful.

    Recall that Egyptian Pharoahs wore dual crowns of upper and lower Egypt because the Nile Delta peoples conquered the Sudan. It was not the other way around.

    Go to Egypt today. Look at the population. Discover, as with all 3rd world countries, how people desperately avoid the sun for fear of being mistaken as black. Comb the population and find out how the few blacks outside of upper Egypt exist as servants or road sweepers. Ponder that they largely do not exist in that society and know that those that are in Egypt are of little importance. Meet the upper classes and note how they compete to find the blackest servant - for he/she is exotic and the more exotic/blacker, the richer the family.

    Ancient Egypt was not much different. If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.

    I've been to Egypt. I've lived in Egypt. There is little black about Egypt and it's extremely doubtful that there ever was.

    If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.

    You must be blind as a bat if you think these ancient egyptians look white:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient+egypt&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir9ruK1sHKAhUH9mMKHWZYCTQQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ancient+egypt+paintings

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.

     

    Actually, the Greeks and the Romans were careful in distinguishing the Egyptians from the Ethiopians:

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     
    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250
    , @Accomplishments
    You're the (willfully) blind one. The Greeks carefully distinguished between Egyptians and Ethiopians, their general word for people of southern Egypt and further south of it. It's in the very word Aithiopia (charred or burnt face), and by the way, one that is never used to describe Egyptians. There are many depictions of Ethiopians in ancient Greek art, usually to emphasize what Greeks perceived as their own superior beauty. On the first bust below, the side of the Greek woman writes kalos, meaning beauty and virtue. This is what the Greeks thought of as Ethiopian:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f4/54/ba/f454baa8562f23bce72c7a8f9a616a97.jpg

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2c/07/ff/2c07ff4e061722635ac1dde68d6c9096.jpg

    They look absolutely nothing like that bust of Nefertiti (who incidentally looks a lot more like the Greek woman in the bust), or all of the other Egyptian history, culture, and art that Afro-centrism recasts as being "black", that no scientist or historian believes in. These myths are only propagated within African Studies departments in their own little world.

  267. @Bliss
    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ' As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)


    Probably not, seeing as how the Olmecs were Amerinds….
     
    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=olmec+heads&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiHn-GKu8HKAhUO3mMKHRBjDTEQsAQIGw#tbm=isch&q=olmec+stone+heads

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.

    By the way, there actually are dolls and small statuettes from the Olmec Era that look clearly north asian and clearly different from the gigantic head statues:

    http://www.crystalinks.com/olmecmotherchild.jpg

    http://www.crystalinks.com/olmecfigurines.jpg

    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ‘ As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)

    Still quoting Volney, eh?Well, here’s someone who’s just a tad more up-to-date:

    Frank Snowden:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    The assumption that a majority of the inhabitants of north Africa such as Numidians, Gaetulians, and Moors, were blacks, is also contradicted by the ancient evidence. Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians who lived on the southern fringes of the area. The ancient sources also point to the presence in northwest Africa of mixed black-white types, strongly suggested by names such as Libyoaethiopes (Libyan Ethiopians), Leucoaethiopes (white Ethiopians) and Melanogeatuli (black Gaetulians), a kind of intermediate population, an amalgam of whites and Ethiopians, and by the descriptions of the Garamantes, classified in some classical texts as Ethiopians but distinguished from Ethiopians by others. [15] Classical accounts of the physical features of northwest Africans are amply confirmed by the iconographical evidence. Mosaics, sculpture in the round, and other art objects from northwest Africa depict the inhabitants as predominantly white and portray relatively few blacks, far fewer than in the art of the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.

    Further, Diop overlooks the fact that classical authors regularly differentiated between Egyptians and Ethiopians. The Indians south of the Ganges, though browned by the sun, Arrian observed, were not so dark as Ethiopians, whereas northern Indians resembled Egyptians. Finally, it should be noted that Egyptian artists at various times from the middle of the third millennium BC onward depicted southerners (Kushites, Nubians) with tightly coiled hair and thick lips–characteristics clearly differing from those in their portrayals of Egyptians. Further, Egyptian painters often used a carbon black color in representations of Kushites, a reddish tint for Egyptian men and a paler hue for Egyptian women. This important evidence does not mean that there were not inhabitants of Egypt who were apparently racially mixed. In fact, the earliest recognizable portrait of a black in Egyptian art is preserved in a limestone head (ca. 2600 BC) of the Negroid wife of an Egyptian prince from Giza, near modern Cairo. [12] The Negroid archers and their Egyptian wives depicted on stelae at Gebelein were not the only soldiers in the Egyptian army whose wives were Egyptians. Flavius Philostratus may also have had mixed black-white types in mind when he observed that people in the neighborhood of the Egyptian-Nubian boundary were not completely black, but half-breeds in color, not so black as Ethiopians but darker than Egyptians.

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.

    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:

    Clearly,dear fellow, you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.And, aside from Afrocentric cranks, no one thinks that Black Africans built them.

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.

    And, since they were built by Amerinds, they are not helping your claims regarding Black Africans….

    • Replies: @Bliss

    here’s someone who’s just a tad more up-to-date: Frank Snowden:

    Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians
     
    It is unbelievable that someone as ignorant and irrational as you is actually a teacher. He is writing about northwest africans you numbskull. Egypt is in northeast africa.

    Herodotus is more trustworthy than many a modern day "scholar" whose mind is willy nilly poisoned by racism. Btw I googled Frank Snowden, he has a very short Wikipedia entry which unfortunately for you says this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    He documented that in ancient Rome and Greece racial prejudice was not an issue. Much of this, according to Snowden, is because most of the blacks they encountered were not slaves. Most slaves in the Roman Empire were white. Most of the blacks they met were warriors, statesmen, and mercenaries. Therefore, blacks were not subjected to the racism of modern civilization. He studied ancient art and literature, and he found evidence that blacks were able to co-exist with the Greeks and Romans.

    It is stupid to claim that the ancient egyptians were not black because they were a shade lighter than ethiopians just as it would be to claim that north indians are a different race than south indians. If only jet blacks are blacks in the minds of your irrational ilk then albinos and northern euros who cannot tan must be the only whites.

    No ancient observer ever compared the egyptians to any of the caucasian peoples in MENA. The comparison was always to ethiopians. For example one classic greek text explained the curly hair and bandy legs of egyptians and ethiopians was a consequence of the hot climate in which they lived. Herodotus, known to europeans as the Father of History, concluded that the Colchians of the Caucasus region must have been of egyptian origin being black skinned and wooly haired. Also because like the egyptians and ethiopians the colchians practiced circumcision. Etc etc
    , @Bliss

    you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.
     
    I challenge you to show us the meso-americans you hang around with that look like this:

    http://research.famsi.org/uploads/kerrfolio/hires/8387b.jpg


    Go ahead, make us laugh...
  268. @conatus
    Great point!
    "In fact, Black visibility in TV and film already exceeds their proportion of the US population. What’s up with that, Spike? "

    The average American sucking on his Bud and watching football and sitcoms thinks Blacks are 33% of the total population. Why? Because they are everywhere in the media and on the tube they are usually represented as Doctors or academics and generally dripping with so much gravitas they barely crack a smile, at least in the commercials.

    "On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher. As many as 17% of Americans say the percentage of blacks is 50% or greater. Only 7% accurately state that the percentage of blacks falls between 10% and 14% of the entire population."

    from here:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/4435/public-overestimates-us-black-hispanic-populations.aspx

    “On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher

    They might be right, if you go by weight.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910

    They might be right, if you go by weight.
     
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2829737/
  269. @Reg Cæsar

    “On average, Americans say that 33% of the U.S. population is black. In fact, a majority of Americans (56%) estimate that the percentage of blacks in this country stands at 30% or higher
     
    They might be right, if you go by weight.

    They might be right, if you go by weight.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2829737/

  270. @Bliss

    If you need any morereference than the color of the skin of the depictions on the temples, I am afraid I cannot help you much.
     
    You must be blind as a bat if you think these ancient egyptians look white:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient+egypt&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=492&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir9ruK1sHKAhUH9mMKHWZYCTQQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ancient+egypt+paintings

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.

    Actually, the Greeks and the Romans were careful in distinguishing the Egyptians from the Ethiopians:

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.

    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    • Replies: @Accomplishments
    Yes, the Greeks differentiated between the Egyptians and Ethiopians and in fact, Ethiopian literally means 'burnt face' or 'charred face'. Aithiopia aithin burn + opia face . If American college students latch onto this, I wouldn't be surprised if they start a movement to erase the name from history, even though the Greeks actually held Ethiopians with a fair amount of regard. Interestingly, Ethiopians don't regard themselves as black. They emphasize the unique aspects of their culture and history among the region, and are really resentful when people use Ethiopia as an example of sub-saharan African history and culture. I've heard about this first-hand from Ethiopians.

    Sub-Saharan Africans haven't ever created anything lasting and important to mankind - yet. Instead of having a debilitating inferiority complex about it, and trying to pass off the cultural achievements of others as their own, they should consider that just a few short centuries ago, there were places like this one small island with crappy weather that had achieved nothing of note, but went on to become a huge, formidable empire that changed the world forever, and the hub of some of the world's most important inventions.

    , @Rob McX
  271. @syonredux

    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ‘ As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)
     
    Still quoting Volney, eh?Well, here's someone who's just a tad more up-to-date:

    Frank Snowden:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    The assumption that a majority of the inhabitants of north Africa such as Numidians, Gaetulians, and Moors, were blacks, is also contradicted by the ancient evidence. Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians who lived on the southern fringes of the area. The ancient sources also point to the presence in northwest Africa of mixed black-white types, strongly suggested by names such as Libyoaethiopes (Libyan Ethiopians), Leucoaethiopes (white Ethiopians) and Melanogeatuli (black Gaetulians), a kind of intermediate population, an amalgam of whites and Ethiopians, and by the descriptions of the Garamantes, classified in some classical texts as Ethiopians but distinguished from Ethiopians by others. [15] Classical accounts of the physical features of northwest Africans are amply confirmed by the iconographical evidence. Mosaics, sculpture in the round, and other art objects from northwest Africa depict the inhabitants as predominantly white and portray relatively few blacks, far fewer than in the art of the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.
     

    Further, Diop overlooks the fact that classical authors regularly differentiated between Egyptians and Ethiopians. The Indians south of the Ganges, though browned by the sun, Arrian observed, were not so dark as Ethiopians, whereas northern Indians resembled Egyptians. Finally, it should be noted that Egyptian artists at various times from the middle of the third millennium BC onward depicted southerners (Kushites, Nubians) with tightly coiled hair and thick lips–characteristics clearly differing from those in their portrayals of Egyptians. Further, Egyptian painters often used a carbon black color in representations of Kushites, a reddish tint for Egyptian men and a paler hue for Egyptian women. This important evidence does not mean that there were not inhabitants of Egypt who were apparently racially mixed. In fact, the earliest recognizable portrait of a black in Egyptian art is preserved in a limestone head (ca. 2600 BC) of the Negroid wife of an Egyptian prince from Giza, near modern Cairo. [12] The Negroid archers and their Egyptian wives depicted on stelae at Gebelein were not the only soldiers in the Egyptian army whose wives were Egyptians. Flavius Philostratus may also have had mixed black-white types in mind when he observed that people in the neighborhood of the Egyptian-Nubian boundary were not completely black, but half-breeds in color, not so black as Ethiopians but darker than Egyptians.
     

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     
    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:
     
    Clearly,dear fellow, you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.And, aside from Afrocentric cranks, no one thinks that Black Africans built them.

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.
     
    And, since they were built by Amerinds, they are not helping your claims regarding Black Africans....

    here’s someone who’s just a tad more up-to-date: Frank Snowden:

    Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians

    It is unbelievable that someone as ignorant and irrational as you is actually a teacher. He is writing about northwest africans you numbskull. Egypt is in northeast africa.

    Herodotus is more trustworthy than many a modern day “scholar” whose mind is willy nilly poisoned by racism. Btw I googled Frank Snowden, he has a very short Wikipedia entry which unfortunately for you says this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    He documented that in ancient Rome and Greece racial prejudice was not an issue. Much of this, according to Snowden, is because most of the blacks they encountered were not slaves. Most slaves in the Roman Empire were white. Most of the blacks they met were warriors, statesmen, and mercenaries. Therefore, blacks were not subjected to the racism of modern civilization. He studied ancient art and literature, and he found evidence that blacks were able to co-exist with the Greeks and Romans.

    It is stupid to claim that the ancient egyptians were not black because they were a shade lighter than ethiopians just as it would be to claim that north indians are a different race than south indians. If only jet blacks are blacks in the minds of your irrational ilk then albinos and northern euros who cannot tan must be the only whites.

    No ancient observer ever compared the egyptians to any of the caucasian peoples in MENA. The comparison was always to ethiopians. For example one classic greek text explained the curly hair and bandy legs of egyptians and ethiopians was a consequence of the hot climate in which they lived. Herodotus, known to europeans as the Father of History, concluded that the Colchians of the Caucasus region must have been of egyptian origin being black skinned and wooly haired. Also because like the egyptians and ethiopians the colchians practiced circumcision. Etc etc

    • Replies: @syonredux

    It is unbelievable that someone as ignorant and irrational as you is actually a teacher.
     
    Does this mean that we are not friends anymore?

    He is writing about northwest africans you numbskull. Egypt is in northeast africa.
     
    He's also writing about Egypt, dear fellow:

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     

    Herodotus is more trustworthy than many a modern day “scholar” whose mind is willy nilly poisoned by racism.
     
    Snowden mind was "poisoned" by racism, eh?Well, whatever makes you happy.

    As for Herodotus, here's a more recent translation:


    For the fact is as I soon came to realise myself, and then heard from others later, that the Colchians are obviously Egyptian. When the notion occurred to me, I asked both the Colchians and the Egyptians about it, and found that the Colchians had better recall of the Egyptians than the Egyptians did of them. Some Egyptians said that they thought the Colchians originated with Sesostris’ army, but I myself guessed their Egyptian origin not only because the Colchians are dark-skinned and curly-haired (which does not count for much by itself , because these features are common in others too) but more importantly because Colchians, Egyptians and Ethiopians are the only peoples in the world who practise circumcision and who have always done so.
     
    The histories By Herodotus, Robin Waterfield, Carolyn Dewald

    Btw I googled Frank Snowden, he has a very short Wikipedia entry which unfortunately for you says this:
     
    Why would that be "unfortunate" for me, dear fellow?

    It is stupid to claim that the ancient egyptians were not black because they were a shade lighter than ethiopians
     
    Rather more than a shade lighter, dear fellow:

    The Ethiopians stain the world and depict a race of men steeped in darkness; less sun-burnt are the natives of India; the land of Egypt, flooded by the Nile, darkens bodies more mildly owing to the inundation of its fields: it is a country nearer to us and its moderate climate imparts a medium tone.
     
    Manilius, Astronomica 4.724

    just as it would be to claim that north indians are a different race than south indians. If only jet blacks are blacks in the minds of your irrational ilk then albinos and northern euros who cannot tan must be the only whites.
     
    Dear fellow, being Negroid is more than just a matter of darkness of skin. It also involves skull morphology, nose shape, hair texture, etc.
    , @Yak-15
    Egyptians and Ethiopians are substantially more than one shade darker or lighter. No observer of modern or ancient Egyptian society would confuse a black African and an Delta region Egyptian. Likewise, skin tones trend slightly darker in North Africa than they do in the eastern and norther Mediterranean areas. Similarly, those of the north/western Mediterranean trend darker than their inland, northern cousins. Such is usually the case as you drift further from the equator.

    Modern Egyptian society differentiates substantially between dark Egyptians and those of a fairer shade. The poor, of course, tend to be of darker shades than the rich mostly because one labors outside while the other does not. However, even the darkest of the Egyptian lower castes looks markedly different from an Ethiopian or an upper Nile region Egyptian. Or a Sudanese person. Or a Congolese person.

    The Egyptians also differ quite a bit not only in skin tone, but in other facial features. These phenotypic realities belly important genotypic facts. Namely, that they descended from different population bases.

    That noted, the Ethiopians developed a unique culture that has progressed further than its western and southern African cousins. However, much can be said for their culture being a copy of their more advanced neighbors to the north. Similarly, it can be noted that Ethiopians are also ethnically distinct with slighter, narrower and pointier noses than their other sub-Saharan cousins. They are distinct most likely due to their mixture with Arab and sub-continent populations coming across though trade.

    Anyhow, the paintings and drawing that mark ancient Egyptian ruins cannot wholly be described as "white" in the European sense. However, they are white in the sense that compares to black Africans, they are much, much lighter. This is why Egyptians are classified uniquely as part of a distinct racial group with shades of differences depending upon the region and the historical admixture.
  272. @syonredux

    Unfortunately for you Herodotus who actually visited Egypt before it had become thoroughly mongrelized makes you look a liar:

    when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says: ‘ As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair. (Count Volney)
     
    Still quoting Volney, eh?Well, here's someone who's just a tad more up-to-date:

    Frank Snowden:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Snowden,_Jr.

    The assumption that a majority of the inhabitants of north Africa such as Numidians, Gaetulians, and Moors, were blacks, is also contradicted by the ancient evidence. Classical accounts clearly distinguish between the light-skinned inhabitants of coastal northwest Africa and the darker Ethiopians who lived on the southern fringes of the area. The ancient sources also point to the presence in northwest Africa of mixed black-white types, strongly suggested by names such as Libyoaethiopes (Libyan Ethiopians), Leucoaethiopes (white Ethiopians) and Melanogeatuli (black Gaetulians), a kind of intermediate population, an amalgam of whites and Ethiopians, and by the descriptions of the Garamantes, classified in some classical texts as Ethiopians but distinguished from Ethiopians by others. [15] Classical accounts of the physical features of northwest Africans are amply confirmed by the iconographical evidence. Mosaics, sculpture in the round, and other art objects from northwest Africa depict the inhabitants as predominantly white and portray relatively few blacks, far fewer than in the art of the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.
     

    Further, Diop overlooks the fact that classical authors regularly differentiated between Egyptians and Ethiopians. The Indians south of the Ganges, though browned by the sun, Arrian observed, were not so dark as Ethiopians, whereas northern Indians resembled Egyptians. Finally, it should be noted that Egyptian artists at various times from the middle of the third millennium BC onward depicted southerners (Kushites, Nubians) with tightly coiled hair and thick lips–characteristics clearly differing from those in their portrayals of Egyptians. Further, Egyptian painters often used a carbon black color in representations of Kushites, a reddish tint for Egyptian men and a paler hue for Egyptian women. This important evidence does not mean that there were not inhabitants of Egypt who were apparently racially mixed. In fact, the earliest recognizable portrait of a black in Egyptian art is preserved in a limestone head (ca. 2600 BC) of the Negroid wife of an Egyptian prince from Giza, near modern Cairo. [12] The Negroid archers and their Egyptian wives depicted on stelae at Gebelein were not the only soldiers in the Egyptian army whose wives were Egyptians. Flavius Philostratus may also have had mixed black-white types in mind when he observed that people in the neighborhood of the Egyptian-Nubian boundary were not completely black, but half-breeds in color, not so black as Ethiopians but darker than Egyptians.
     

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     
    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    You are nuts if you think these giant Olmec heads look like descendants of north asians:
     
    Clearly,dear fellow, you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.And, aside from Afrocentric cranks, no one thinks that Black Africans built them.

    And this civilization existed a couple thousand years before the germanic tribes were finally civilized.
     
    And, since they were built by Amerinds, they are not helping your claims regarding Black Africans....

    you need to hang around more pure-blooded Meso-American Amerinds.

    I challenge you to show us the meso-americans you hang around with that look like this:

    Go ahead, make us laugh…

    • Replies: @syonredux

    I challenge you to show us the meso-americans you hang around with that look like this:

    http://research.famsi.org/uploads/kerrfolio/hires/8387b.jpg

    Go ahead, make us laugh…
     
    Looks rather like the Central American Amerinds who do lawn work in my neighborhood.

    Seriously, dear fellow, you're not helping your case by citing Olmec statues as evidence for Black African civilization.That's just as silly as White Supremacist types who invoke Quetzalcoatl.
  273. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    What people never like admitting is that German uniforms were chosen by Hitler, who did have some artistic sensibilities.
     
    People also don't like to admit that Nazi architecture wasn't too bad either. Fascism does have style.

    Nazi architecture was not very good. It was sort of a brutalist classicism. It wasn’t tasteful like neo-classical architecture. Have you ever seen Hitler’s plans for Germania, his rebuilding of Berlin? It was very tacky with things like an enormous, monstrous dome in the middle. Part of the function seems to have been to be a jobs program, so that may be partly why it was bad.

    Also, a lot of it was indistinguishable from the concrete blocks you see in communist countries:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/former-nazi-seaside-resort-attracts-berlin-investors-a-901248.html

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I guess "brutalist" only means "huge" here. It's not that huge structures or megalomania are confined to Nazism or even Soviet Communism, just check who built the first skyscrapers. These structures can be and are often admired, like the pyramids or the Abu Simbel rock temples. I think Nazi structures were effective the same way their party rallies in Nuremberg were, it was not without reason the victors deemed it necessary to demolish a lot of the buildings left structurally intact after the war, like Hitler's chancellery.

    The sommer resort which you linked actually is not classicist at all, proving the point I just wanted to make that not nearly all Nazi architecture was classicist. (It was not all megalomaniacal either.) Classicism (of the "brutalist" kind) was typical of Nazi public buildings, where they were to radiate strength, confidence and calm. But even classicism was not universal there, for example Göring's Reichsluftfahrtministerium was a modernist office building, because Hitler wanted people to see from the outside that the highly modern German Air Force (and aviation in general) was governed from there. He scrapped the original classicist design. Hitler also insisted that the Autobahns (including smaller buildings like gas stations) weren't to be classicist (there were plans for highway bridges to look loke ancient Roman structures), because it was a modern way of transportation.

    As to the cheap (KdF) resort hotel, well, it looked like cheap resort hotels look around the world, built as cheaply and cost efficiently as possible, using the cheapest and most up-to-date cost efficient methods.
  274. @Anonymous
    It works both ways though. Trump's promotion of and dogwhistling to the neo-Nazi elements of his base in public outlets like Twitter will also help mobilize the Dems.

    Maybe.

    SJWs and SWPLs (far from mutually exclusive groups) were already turning out anyway, although some young feminists may stay home upon learning of Hill’s treatment of Bill’s bimbos. That is if she’s even the nominee. If she dodges indictment, we might also see gov workers sitting on their hands in protest, which would be another unforeseen loss.

    White blue-collar voters (such as union households) could care less about any dogwhistling.

  275. @flyingtiger
    Watson & Crick- DNA. Don't Watsonize him like the SJWs do!

    It’s a personal technical opinion. Watson never did much after DNA so I figure Crick was really the brains behind the operation. I agree with Watson’s remarks that he got Watsoned for.

  276. @Anonymous
    It's not pseudoscience. Haplogroups are a real thing and easy to determine.

    And that one doesn’t mean what the ridiculous piece claims.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    And that one doesn’t mean what the ridiculous piece claims.
     
    Was I dreaming, or did that moronic article actually state that a haplogroup is a chromosome?
  277. @a reader
    Hugo Boss became (in)famous for supplying uniforms to the Sturmabteilung , Schutzstaffel and Hitler Jugend.

    For some reason , the supplier to the Kriegsmarine and then the SS is much less known.

    I wonder why.

    Coco Chanel also collaborated extensively with the German occupiers, but I don’t think she designed anything specific for German women in service.

  278. @Anonymous
    Nazi architecture was not very good. It was sort of a brutalist classicism. It wasn't tasteful like neo-classical architecture. Have you ever seen Hitler's plans for Germania, his rebuilding of Berlin? It was very tacky with things like an enormous, monstrous dome in the middle. Part of the function seems to have been to be a jobs program, so that may be partly why it was bad.

    Also, a lot of it was indistinguishable from the concrete blocks you see in communist countries:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/former-nazi-seaside-resort-attracts-berlin-investors-a-901248.html

    I guess “brutalist” only means “huge” here. It’s not that huge structures or megalomania are confined to Nazism or even Soviet Communism, just check who built the first skyscrapers. These structures can be and are often admired, like the pyramids or the Abu Simbel rock temples. I think Nazi structures were effective the same way their party rallies in Nuremberg were, it was not without reason the victors deemed it necessary to demolish a lot of the buildings left structurally intact after the war, like Hitler’s chancellery.

    The sommer resort which you linked actually is not classicist at all, proving the point I just wanted to make that not nearly all Nazi architecture was classicist. (It was not all megalomaniacal either.) Classicism (of the “brutalist” kind) was typical of Nazi public buildings, where they were to radiate strength, confidence and calm. But even classicism was not universal there, for example Göring’s Reichsluftfahrtministerium was a modernist office building, because Hitler wanted people to see from the outside that the highly modern German Air Force (and aviation in general) was governed from there. He scrapped the original classicist design. Hitler also insisted that the Autobahns (including smaller buildings like gas stations) weren’t to be classicist (there were plans for highway bridges to look loke ancient Roman structures), because it was a modern way of transportation.

    As to the cheap (KdF) resort hotel, well, it looked like cheap resort hotels look around the world, built as cheaply and cost efficiently as possible, using the cheapest and most up-to-date cost efficient methods.

  279. @anonymous
    "The modern USA helmet looks very much like what the Germans wore in WW2."

    Effective helmet designs look the same because solving the same problem often results in similar-looking solutions. That ww2-German and modern-US helmet look is what happens when people with PhDs are given some time to study the problem and do their best. The helmet solution for today is related to a similar solution (for arrows, bolts, and catapult projectiles) from the mid-1400s.

    Stahlhelm:


    "...The design of the Stahlhelm was carried out by Dr. Friedrich Schwerd of the Technical Institute of Hanover. In early 1915, Schwerd had carried out a study of head wounds... Schwerd then undertook the task of designing and producing a suitable helmet broadly based on the 15th century sallet, which provided good protection for the head and neck."

     

    Sallet:


    "...a war helmet that replaced the bascinet in Italy, western and northern Europe and Hungary during the mid-15th century...

    ...they were favoured by more lightly armed troops, especially archers and crossbowmen, whose uninterrupted vision was at a premium.

    ...In ...1450-1460 a distinctive German style of sallet appeared. It was round-skulled but was less curvaceous than the Italian sallet, its most obvious feature was that the rear of the helmet was drawn out into a long tail...

    ...The German-style sallet was the model for the World War I German Stahlhelm..."

     

    How did the British end up with that “pie plate” design–it doesn’t appear to protect much of anything. I’ve read that it was designed to protect from projectiles coming down from the top, but how often does that happen? I’ve read that the German design provided better protection for the neck.

    Studying head wounds has got to have been one of the most depressing medical exercises ever.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor

    projectiles coming down from the top, but how often does that happen?
     
    I guess quite often in a trench typical of the Great War, but not nearly as often elsewhere.
  280. @Simon in London
    Donald Trump doesn't care about Nazi people.

    I don’t think he cares about anyone except Donald Trump. Which makes him like a lot of politicians.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    His egomania is larger than most pols, which is a plus. He wants to be in the history books as a positive figure. Most politicians either don't aspire to that, or their possible aspirations (Merkel?) are patently absurd.

    Trump could be the person who stopped the decline of Western civilization. I don't know if he has a chance to do that, but without stopping immigration it's impossible, so at least he's moving in the right direction.
  281. @Yak-15
    Very dapper. But horrible for the Russian winters.

    Good point. I think that the Wehrmacht had winter uniforms as early as 1941 (Germany is not a tropical country and Alpine troops always needed winter clothing), but didn’t issue them because they thought that the campaign would be over by October. Bad guess, although I don’t think winter uniforms would have been a war winner.

    By 1942 things had improved, partially through German civilian clothing donations and partially through thefts from the mouchiks (the Landser reasoned, probably correctly, that Russian peasants knew how to keep warm in a Russian winter). One problem was keeping the head warm while wearing a steel helmet-lots of insulation, which means that the helmet fits poorly, which means it might not be worn, so no head protection. Those fur caps look great in pictures but don’t do much to deflect shell splinters.

  282. @SFG
    I don't think he cares about anyone except Donald Trump. Which makes him like a lot of politicians.

    His egomania is larger than most pols, which is a plus. He wants to be in the history books as a positive figure. Most politicians either don’t aspire to that, or their possible aspirations (Merkel?) are patently absurd.

    Trump could be the person who stopped the decline of Western civilization. I don’t know if he has a chance to do that, but without stopping immigration it’s impossible, so at least he’s moving in the right direction.

  283. @Charlesz Martel
    From what I remember seeing somewhere at the time, "Big Trouble in Little China" was originally written as the sequel to "Buckaroo Banzai", another movie that majorly flopped at the Box Office. It was essentially incomprehensible if you hadn't read the comic book.

    Looks like the anti-white movement is moving into the "revolution is starting to eat its' own" phase. The Reign of Terror in France, Stalin's show trials stage. It'll be curious to see how long it'll take for a white backlash to start to grow into a political movement. {Usually, it takes a lot longer than I think it will.}. Hollywood is not going to like having it's casting decisions dictated to it. They like controlling their own bottom line. We'll see how long the marriage between Hollywood and the left holds. I expect Silicon Valley to come under increasing fire for their lack of diversity- another big funding source for leftist insanity.

    Finally, I met Charlotte Rampling years ago at a party in France. She was around 26 or 27 at the time. Nice, smart, very independent thinker- and easy on the eyes, too! Her companion was a mulatto clothing designer, I forget his name. Might have been French-Algerian. I believe he was gay, if memory serves. I don't think she's a racist in any way- just a realist who's used to speaking truth to power. I see that the studio's are pressuring her to walk back her comments. We'll see if anything comes from it. Last I saw the studios were caving quickly.

    Could Charlotte Rampling’s remarks be an example of “elderly Tourette syndrome?”

  284. @MEH 0910
    Steve's late neighbor was named Bill. There was actually one William and two Bills playing Wing Kong Hatchet Men. William Wong is still alive. I almost posted Bill Ryusaki, but looking him up it appeared he was still alive also. I looked at the cast list more thoroughly and saw there was a second Bill to look up. And then I had the answer.

    IMDB sure listed a lot of “Wing Kong Hatchet Men”!

    Is it in Al Leong’s contract that whenever there’s a scene in a Hollywood movie calling for an Asian tough guy, he gets the right of first refusal?

  285. @SFG
    Overeating, overdrinking, children out of wedlock, not finishing high school...

    I'm not saying the North doesn't have other things wrong with it, BTW. (If you're an evangelical Christian, for example, the abortion laws basically mean it's a mass-murder factory.)
    Every place has problems. My point is if you were trying to encourage your own 'team' to behave better and the other 'team' grabbed it and ran with it to make fun of your 'team', however you define 'team' (black people/white people/Northerners/Southerners), you'd feel pretty awful too.

    See my #238.

    I question your idea that he was trying to get his “team” to behave better.

    It is quite complicated to me. Who gets to point out what? Who gets to laugh?

    • Replies: @SFG
    In real life? Whoever's in power, of course.

    Morally? Depends on your beliefs, I guess.
  286. @syonredux

    The ancient greeks, who were a better breed of humans than your ilk, saw the egyptians of their time as akin to the ethiopians.

     

    Actually, the Greeks and the Romans were careful in distinguishing the Egyptians from the Ethiopians:

    Greeks and Romans, well acquainted with their contemporaries, differentiated between the various gradations of color in Mediterranean populations and made it clear that only some of the black- or dark-skinned peoples, those coming from the south of Egypt and the southern fringes of northwest Africa, were Ethiopians, i.e. Negroes. Ethiopians, known as the blackest peoples on earth, became the yardstick by which classical authors measured the color of others. In first century AD, Manilius described Ethiopians as the blackest; Indians, less sunburnt; Egyptians, mildly dark; with Moors the lightest in this color scheme. In other words, to all these peoples–Ethiopians, Indians, Egyptians, and Moors–who were darker than the Greeks and Romans, classical authors applied color-words but it should be emphasized that in general the ancients described only one of these–Ethiopians–as unmistakably Negroid.
     
    http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250

    Yes, the Greeks differentiated between the Egyptians and Ethiopians and in fact, Ethiopian literally means ‘burnt face’ or ‘charred face’. Aithiopia aithin burn + opia face . If American college students latch onto this, I wouldn’t be surprised if they start a movement to erase the name from history, even though the Greeks actually held Ethiopians with a fair amount of regard. Interestingly, Ethiopians don’t regard themselves as black. They emphasize the unique aspects of their culture and history among the region, and are really resentful when people use Ethiopia as an example of sub-saharan African history and culture. I’ve heard about this first-hand from Ethiopians.

    Sub-Saharan Africans haven’t ever created anything lasting and important to mankind – yet. Instead of having a debilitating inferiority complex about it, and trying to pass off the cultural achievements of others as their own, they should consider that just a few short centuries ago, there were places like this one small island with crappy weather that had achieved nothing of note, but went on to become a huge, formidable empire that changed the world forever, and the hub of some of the world’s most important inventions.

  287. Re: total tax burden, can you guys point to some good sources? I didn’t run a web search when the subject came up, but I have before, and didn’t find good results.

    Tennessee Coates

    Yes! Finally! Tennessee Coates is the perfect name for that guy, if you don’t give a damn how it’s “actually” spelled.

    ‘Course I’m the guy who thought “B’lack O’Rama” was good coinage.

    Actually, Fury Road was a great movie if you ignore the fact that it’s supposed to be a Mad Max film.

    FIFY.

    One shouldn’t discount the most dangerous highways and highest car crash injury rate among the developed nations that make a serious effort to keep victims alive, also.

    Open borders. Hellooo, 3rd world drivers!

    Well, he did think sub-Saharan Africans were stupid. He just didn’t think it was reason enough to enslave them, just as the fact that animals are our inferiors doesn’t mean we should be unnecessarily cruel to them or torture them.

    I think you left out some of the math here. Plenty of people felt that slave owners shouldn’t torture or be unnecessarily cruel to their slaves. If I had to guess, I’d think that would be the dominant view.

    Recently, the writer Vox Day launched Rabid Puppies to counteract lefty-politicking in science fiction book book awards. Basically, he organized an anti-left voting blocks for awards that resulted in the Left in charge of the science fiction awards two choices: (1) lose major categories of the awards to the “wrong” sorts of writers; or (2) burn down their own awards and attempt to illegally throw out/ban Rabid Puppies from membership. They chose option 2.

    Option 2 is the standard leftist one.

    He took BT Washington’s advice and “cast down his bucket” right where he was and makes entertaining movies. He is devoid of the desperate need for white affirmation, white approval, and white blessing that the Duboisian “Talented Tenth” are burdened with.

    “Gentiles” should do something similar, though I doubt they’re as fertile a field as blacks in this regard. Yet.

    It’s one of those things where I don’t like what happened but I can’t really blame the guy. What if you were lampooning redneck behavior to get Southerners to shape up and found out your show had become popular among New York sophisticates?

    I’d start dragging New York sophisticates in my show.

    I’ve seen some of Hitler’s artwork online and it is quite impressive. The whole line about him being a “failed artist” is, like so much that we have heard about him, rather misleading.

    In any case, Hitler was a better artist than 99.9% (or so) of the human population. Seems an odd avenue of attack, really. I guess holding the megaphone for decades doesn’t encourage competence.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor

    I think you left out some of the math here. Plenty of people felt that slave owners shouldn’t torture or be unnecessarily cruel to their slaves. If I had to guess, I’d think that would be the dominant view.
     
    Well, many people regard keeping non-domesticated animals in captivity as unnecessary cruelty. In any event, blacks are humans. They should have more rights than animals, way more rights. And Darwin also thought so.

    Long story short, blacks shouldn't be kept as slaves, period.
  288. Just another in a NEVER ending flow of “teachable moments” proving that whites will NEVER have a day’s worth of peace and sanity in something resembling their own land as long as they DON’T HAVE their own land.

    This. Amazing how simple it really is, no?

    As a kid of the 80′s Big Trouble was by far my favorite action movie of the decade. It made me laugh more than any comedy of the 80′s not named “Top Secret”. I never understood why it didn’t make more money at the box office.

    BTiLC rules. One of those great 80’s comic book style movies that creates its own universe, like Buckaroo Banzai.

    From what I remember seeing somewhere at the time, “Big Trouble in Little China” was originally written as the sequel to “Buckaroo Banzai”, another movie that majorly flopped at the Box Office. It was essentially incomprehensible if you hadn’t read the comic book.

    See what I mean? And this was news to me.

    Aristotle thought the people of Europe north of Greece were stupid.

    And the people of Europe north of Greece gradually proved him wrong, despite the lack of dramatic enabling technologies the world is saturated with today.

    Foolish ignoramus:

    You think a statue refutes his extensive argument?

    It’ll be curious to see how long it’ll take for a white backlash to start to grow into a political movement. {Usually, it takes a lot longer than I think it will.}

    True, but that long gestation period tends to precede a rather sudden “inflection point” that “nobody could have predicted” and “struck suddenly, out of nowhere.” That’s what happens when you suppress dissent for long periods; people hold their silence until their anger builds up and explodes.

    The need of the hour is for an open competitive system for doctors, where they are judged by outcomes and these outcomes are published for all to see. You’ll see the numbers of affirmative action physicians begin to drop real fast.

    If affirmative action physicians are the meat of the pr