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In Slate, a smart Jewish guy from Mexico City explains to gringos that the American Establishment’s political Conventional Wisdom of 2000-2015 — the key to the White House is amnestying Mexican illegal aliens — is silly.

The Democrats Have a Latino Problem
Hispanic voters were supposed to be the party’s future. It’s not working out that way.
By LEÓN KRAUZE

OCT 10, 201812:47 PM

… Then, there is the Hispanic vote. It would seem reasonable to assume that after three uninterrupted years of demonizing, ostracizing, and persecuting the country’s Hispanic immigrants, Trump and his nativist enablers would have hell to pay with Latinos at the ballot box, come November and beyond. Trouble is, they might not. Hispanic voters have become a maddening puzzle for the Democratic Party.

2016 was supposed to be the year America’s great demographic “sleeping giant” would finally awake, shaken out of its slumber by Trump’s rhetoric. Some predicted a massive “We have arrived” moment that would include a surge in voter registration and a dramatic increase in turnout at the polls. A “Latino wave,” an overoptimistic colleague told me, would come ashore and prove that Hispanic voters truly held the key to the White House.

On Election Day, the wave was merely a splash. There were certainly stories of accomplishment, like the Latino vote in Colorado and Nevada, but Hispanics did not reject Trump in the resounding, almost absolute way that, say, black Americans did. According to exit polls, Trump won 29 percent of the Hispanic vote, outperforming Mitt Romney’s tally by 2 points.

Two things have happened since then. First, Trump’s attacks on Hispanics immigrants have reached an astounding degree of cruelty. …

Latinos have not responded in kind. While Trump was enacting his anti-immigrant agenda, Latino voters seemed to have slowly warmed up to the president. In last week’s NPR/PBS/Marist poll, 41 percent of Hispanics approved of Trump’s performance (black Americans? 12 percent). This is no outlier. Another recent poll put Trump’s approval among Latinos at 35 percent. An average of both would put Trump—again, an overtly nativist president—within about 10 points of Barack Obama’s 49 percent approval among Hispanic at roughly the same time in his presidency.

… The polls, says Suro, also dispute “the presumption that Trump’s immigration policies have alienated large numbers of Latinos.”

The fact that Donald Trump is viewed in a relatively favorable light by as many as 1 in 4 Hispanic voters should be alarming for Democrats, but it’s not even their biggest problem. That would be turnout.

Latino voters make up about 12 percent of the American electorate, with more than 27 million eligible voters. Those numbers will continue to grow in the coming years. The question is whether Hispanic turnout will increase as well. So far, it doesn’t look promising.

 
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  1. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites. Blacks, long-standing subordinate members of the family, are easily enlisted by the Puritans.
    Hispanic are alien to this historical drama. New immigrants aren’t interested in politics. Settled Hispanics who become American are as likely to side with normal whites as with the crazies.
    While the Puritan crazies can always recruit fringe Hispanics to join their mob rallies, they will never have mass appeal to most Hispanics.
    The Puritans can’t understand this because they live in a delusional ideological world of their own making.

  2. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    American politics is a family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites. Blacks, long-standing subordinate members of the family, are easily enlisted by the Puritans.
    Hispanics are alien to this historical drama. New immigrants don’t identify with anyone in American politics. Settled Hispanics who have become American are as likely to side with the normal whites as they are with the Puritan crazies.
    The Puritan crazies can always recruit a few fringe Hispanics to join their cause, but they will never have mass appeal among Hispanics.
    The Puritans can’t understand this because they live in a delusional ideological world of their own making.

  3. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Liberals don’t distinguish that Hispanic voters, mostly native born citizens some naturalized , are a completely different demographic from hispanic illegal aliens and green card holders who aren’t citizens

    The Hispanic citizens can vote. The others can’t. The Hispanic citizens don’t appreciate the flood of illegals any more than White citizens do.

    Hispanics hold on to Mexican and SAmerican culture for generations. But they generally despise the corruption and poverty their grandparents left.

  4. Twinkie says:

    OT: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/11/us-ranks-th-men-nd-women-when-it-comes-helping-residents-reach-their-potential/

    The Washington Post reports about the World Bank Human Capital Index. Seems dangerously HBD, what with East Asian and Northern European and Anglophone countries having the best and African countries having the worst.

  5. J.Ross says: • Website

    You made me visit Slate and I don’t see that anything is “explained.” Krauze seems less hypnotized and better able to process facts than your average purple-hair but his lips are still purple with kool-aid.

    Hispanic apathy toward voting is no laughing matter for the Democrats, but it should be even less so for the Latino community itself. I have heard many explanations for it over the years. Perhaps, some say, Hispanics simply shun civic engagement or lack political education. Others say Latinos have deep misgivings about the democratic process after having seen it fail in their countries of origin. None of the explanations satisfy me. Most of them, frankly, anger me.

    Pseudo-frightened Kanye face.

    Whatever the reason for its depressing lethargy may be, the Hispanic electorate must unshackle itself, even if, in extremis, it means favoring a man whose sole project has been to question the right of millions of immigrants to belong in the United States.

    Gosh that’s a lot of indefensible bald-faced lies in one sentence! But under all those lies did we just see him endorse Hispanic support for Trump?

    Whatever their preference, Latinos must vote, now. The place of our entire community within the fabric of American life depends on it.

    Always end on Holocaust. It’s like a rule, and it’s not like anybody will tell you that you’re being ridiculous.

  6. In Slate, a smart Jewish guy from Mexico City…

    Louis C.K.?

    • Replies: @Lot
  7. Lot says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Leon’s parents are both famous public intellectuals, and he has a Univision TV news show that he moved to LA to do.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Lot
  8. I don’t where the meeting between Trump and Kanye (YE) will end up, but if Trump can improve his numbers with Blacks up to the 10% to 15% level, the Democrats would be in real trouble. It’s a small amount, but it is the heart of the Democratic base. It would be quite funny if Trump managed to pull that off.

  9. trelane says:

    Adios Amigo. You know what you are blondie?

  10. @Clifford Brown

    if Trump can improve his numbers with Blacks up to the 10% to 15% level, the Democrats would be in real trouble.

    LOL

    • Replies: @sondjata
  11. syonredux says:
    @anon

    American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites.

    Ashkenazi Jews are “Puritan revolutionaries?”

  12. Cato says:
    @Anon

    I worked in the orchards on the east side of the Cascades during one season in the 1970s. Once I worked with an American Latino guy. He let me sleep in his Camaro, up on blocks behind his house. At night we would hang around and talk, he and his cousin and me. Those guys hated the illegals. They called them “weekend warriors”, because almost every Saturday night there would be another story about some nasty fight where someone died. But they hated the illegals not because of their warrior proclivities, but because the illegals were driving down the wages in agricultural work. Illegals have done great damage to the US working class, and a lot of that working class is Latino.

    • Replies: @Anon
  13. syonredux says:
    @Anon

    Liberals don’t distinguish that Hispanic voters, mostly native born citizens some naturalized , are a completely different demographic from hispanic illegal aliens and green card holders who aren’t citizens

    Their social interactions are largely limited to rabidly anti-Anglo Latinx activists:

    The Hispanic citizens can vote. The others can’t. The Hispanic citizens don’t appreciate the flood of illegals any more than White citizens do.

    Hoolian Castro likes ‘em….

  14. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    Portrait of an oppressed Man of Color:

    • Replies: @Lot
  15. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Ashkenazi Jews are “Puritan revolutionaries?”

    They are late-comers to the party who have sided with the Puritans. They may be replacing them, though we shall see. From Puritans to Abolitionists to the modern Left is a direct line of descent. Jews are grafted onto this tree around 1900.

  16. @syonredux

    No, they just culturally appropriated it.

  17. Lot says:
    @Lot

    Leon’s father is Ashkenazi on both sides. His mother has the rare English/Scottish last name of Turrent, and she never used a Spanish-custom second last name like her son and husband, implying she was born in The UK. She studied in Mexico City and Oxford. I’d guess she is the product of a Mexican mother and English or Scottish father, and became a secular Jew like her husband on marriage.

  18. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    He’s a odd looking guy. On top of my quick research, I also think based on his facial features he’s 50% Ashkenazi, 25-50% British, 0-25% upper class Heritage Mexican.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Anonymous
    , @Ed
    , @ic1000
  19. Lot says:
    @Lot

    Upon further research, Turrent is a rare Spanish surname, and his mother was probably born in Mexico to a Heritage Mexican and non-Jewish academic family. It is still very odd she seems to never use her second surname.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  20. American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites.

    More accurately, it’s an on-going family feud between normal whites and Southern Cavaliers.

  21. Precious says:

    Well, if voting is part of white culture and Western Civilization, then perhaps Hispanics are just respecting the institution rather than culturally appropriating it for themselves. In which case, the diversity police should stop whining and respect their decision.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Lowe
  22. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT marijuana is harmless

    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/citrus-heights/teen-driver-accused-of-intentionally-causing-deadly-citrus-heights-crash/103-603144060

    According to the report, police say [19 year old] Christina Diaz was driving a 2004 Toyota Camry westbound on Greenback Lane, around 6:30 p.m. on Tuesday, when she intentionally collided with a Dodge van that was traveling in the same direction.
    After crashing into the van, police say Diaz lost control of her vehicle, which then careened into oncoming traffic, colliding with a Mercedes sedan. Authorities say Diaz fled the scene on foot but was quickly apprehended.
    The driver of the Mercedes, only identified as an adult male, was pronounced dead at the scene. The people inside of the van only sustained minor injuries.
    Police say Diaz was driving under the influence of marijuana at the time of the crash, though they have not said why she would have intentionally wrecked into the van.

    This follows a major study demonstrating that marijuana is damaging to the mental development of young people.

  23. dvorak says:
    @syonredux

    Ashkenazi Jews are “Puritan revolutionaries?”

    For our purposes, it doesn’t matter if our Jews have converted to become Puritan communist maniacs, or if our Puritans have converted to become Jewish communist maniacs. They long ago joined in a permanent alliance of communist maniacs, which is the real problem.

    h/t Moldbug, or Moldberg if you prefer.

  24. Clyde says:
    @Lot

    Some of the Turrent family in Mexico are in the cigar business.
    “Alberto and Alejandro Turrent, owners of Nueva Matacapan de Tabacos S.A. de C.V., are the first family of Mexico’s cigar industry.”

  25. @syonredux

    Certainly there is a history of Ashkenazi Jews engaging in revolutionary politics, wouldn’t you agree? Doesn’t that make them natural allies of our Northeastern Puritan-descended overlords?

    • Replies: @syonredux
  26. Lot says:

    Those complaining about the lack of Protestants on the Supeme Court: defend the disappointment that Gorsuch has been so far on immigration.

    Case 1 he sides with the 4 liberals in a 5-4 decision.

    Looks like one from today he is tacking left of Kav and Alito and may again join the libs 5-4.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/us/politics/kavanaugh-immigration-supreme-court-case.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ed
    , @notanon
  27. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    He has a large, flat nose and wide set eyes. Jews tend to have large, curved noses and close set eyes. His nose may suggest some sub-Saharan African ancestry, perhaps mediated through the Moors into Iberia, or through the slave trade into Mexico. He has thick, fleshy lips, which can be a sub-Saharan African or Jewish feature. He has deep set eyes, which is common among Jews and in the Mediterranean. But they are quite wide set, which is unusual and may be indicative of the other ancestral components.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  28. @Peter Akuleyev

    Peter Akuleyev wrote:

    More accurately, it’s an on-going family feud between normal whites and Southern Cavaliers.

    Scotch Irish. Please, let us not forget the Scotch Irish.

    And “normal whites”? I’m partly of New England Puritan stock, and I am pretty sure that my ancestors would have resented being considered “normal”!

    The proper word is “saints.” E.g.,

    A religious belief developed by John Calvin held that a certain number of people were predestined to go to heaven by God. This belief in the elect, or “visible saints,” figured a major part in the doctrine of the Puritans who settled in New England during the 1600′s.

    If you don’t get that, you do not understand America.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @Forbes
  29. syonredux says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Certainly there is a history of Ashkenazi Jews engaging in revolutionary politics, wouldn’t you agree?

    That was my point….

    Doesn’t that make them natural allies of our Northeastern Puritan-descended overlords?

    Do we still have “Northeastern Puritan-descended overlords?” They seem rather thin on the ground these days…..

    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
  30. syonredux says:
    @anon

    They are late-comers to the party who have sided with the Puritans. They may be replacing them, though we shall see.

    “[M]ay be replacing them?” Have you taken a look at the ethnic background of the people who finance the Left in the USA? Ashkenazi Jews have been running things for the last 40 years….at minimum….

    From Puritans to Abolitionists to the modern Left is a direct line of descent. Jews are grafted onto this tree around 1900.

    What do you call it when the graft absorbs the tree?

  31. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Gorsuch is half Irish Catholic and was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools until college. His wife is not Catholic, and he was married in a non-Catholic ceremony and is a member of an Episcopalian church along with his wife, but he refuses to say if he is Catholic or Protestant. He may still be Catholic, or he may be a crypto-Catholic. Regardless, he does have a Catholic background and upbringing.

    Incidentally, his Irish Catholic side must explain the thick head of gray hair and young, low hairline he retains at his age. That seems to be an Irish thing.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Hibernian
  32. Hormisdas says:
    @syonredux

    Protestantism is a Judaizing and Jewish supported development; it is no coincidence that the most dangerous persons, historically, are not mere Pagans, but members of the “apostate community” or of ideologies hatched thereby: Jews, Protestants, lapsed or nominal Catholics (and, contrarily, the greatest souls and expositors of Truth are the Catholic Fathers, Doctors and Saints, and, before them, the Prophets with Plato and Aristotle as outliers). Puritans ARE Jews, in a certain sense; they have returned to a merely human tradition and a religion “of the book,” they are chosenites with a mission of tikkun olam (“build Jerusalem in this green and pleasant land”, etc), they wish to purge for ritual purity more than any Papist Inquisitor, etc.. They are two peas in a pod.

  33. @Anon

    The Hispanic citizens don’t appreciate the flood of illegals any more than White citizens do.

    Spot on. It’s not JUST for the reason of the continuous push toward lower wages. They came to the US for the money, but some may realize that there’s a reason things work better here – with a lower gringo/beaner ratio, they know what’s gonna happen. Many of these people, say in Texas, have lived here for a long time and are Americans. That last crowd, though, is almost overwhelmed at this point by the unassimilating illegal masses.

  34. I think this guy is very insulting to the Mexicans. His “sleeping giant” term is just a dog-whistle for “beaners having a siesta” (but not enough to wake ‘em up).

    Seriously though, the writer brought up your long-standing point that the hispanics don’t exactly get out the vote, but also this new point that President Trump has gained a decent amount of their support. I think the latter effect is due to a) the more macho attitude they have, which results in great distain for the Øb☭mas and other feminized politicians, of which Trump is no part of, and b) they aren’t quite as unthinking and reflexive as the black voters, after all.

  35. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s attacks on Hispanics immigrants have reached an astounding degree of cruelty. …

    In last week’s NPR/PBS/Marist poll, 41 percent of Hispanics approved of Trump’s performance (black Americans? 12 percent). This is no outlier.

    Maybe because he didn’t really “attack” them. Gee, leftists sure do like to use that word. They need to go back to elementary school and read The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

    Me: Hello, how are you doing? It’s a nice day isn’t it?

    Leftist: Look at this WHITE MALE with his crew cut and polo shirt. He’s attacking me!!!!! [Starts shrieking uncontrollably, blowing a rape whistle, while calling 911, and eventually goes into seizures and dies.]

    • Replies: @bomag
  36. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I knew a Puerto Rican guy in the early ‘90s who used to pump his fist and yell “Trump!” when he drove by a Trump building. Trump was unironically popular with blacks, Latinos, and even young Reihan Salam, Bangladeshi or whatever his background is, as he explained a couple of years ago, ”I can’t Hate Donald Trump” (Of course he followed that up a few months later, in true #NeverTrump fashion, with ”I hate Donald Trump”).

  37. @Clifford Brown

    I see Dennis Rodman is putting himself forward for Nikki Haley’s UN seat.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Anon
    , @Lowe
  38. @Anonymous

    A mix of the people Ferdinand and Isabella kicked out of Spain, then?

    • Replies: @notanon
  39. Ed says:

    I tend to think blacks have just spoiled liberals. Liberals tend to think other groups are just as monolithic and dumb as black voters.

    These past three weeks the media has operated on the presumption that almost all women would be horrified by Kavanaugh. To their chagrin they found out about half are opposed. The thing about the gender gap is it’s mostly a race gap. To do any real political analysis of this country you simply have to remove blacks from opinion surveys. Just make a guess at their turnout rate & move on. You’ll get nothing informative from say the black approval rate for example.

  40. Ed says:
    @Lot

    Gorsuch is fine he takes a Randian approach to civil liberties and the 4th amendments. That this sometimes causes him to side with liberals is certainly not optimal but nothing to be too alarmed about.

    My understanding is that he was quite conservative this past year. Didn’t he cast the deciding vote on upholding the travel ban?

    • Replies: @bomag
  41. Ed says:
    @Lot

    Netflix has a reality show on the Mexican elite. They’re not merely white but quite Arab too.
    What’s also fascinating to me is that even single or childless couples living in apartments have maids and cooks dressed in proper uniforms.

    The elite in Mexico live a charmed life even with the kidnapping threat hovering over them.

  42. Ed says:
    @Clifford Brown

    I thought and there was some early speculation Trump would do well, about 10-15% with blacks. The thinking was his more masculine appeal, brashness and ubiquity would appeal to more blacks in particular black men. However the black vote is driven more by black women, about 2/3 of black voters are women.

    Black women are probably the most committed group to the Narrative and SJWism than any group around. Thus Trump enjoys a 2% approval rate among them. So he won’t be getting 10-15% of the black vote.

  43. Vern says:

    Donald Trump is the closest thing to a typical Latin American strongman, the first gringo caudillo.

    For that reason, many Mexicans LIKE him! He’s what they’re used to.

  44. Own up, Steve. You wrote the Slate article, didn’t you?

  45. @syonredux

    “…Do we still have “Northeastern Puritan-descended overlords?” They seem rather thin on the ground these days….”

    Yes, we do have Puritan-descended overlords, descended ideologically if not genetically. Elizabeth Warren and Andrew Cuomo are two ideological Puritans despite their genetic heritage. To be a Puritan means to be smugly superior to everyone else, so superior that you are willing to use force to enforce your lifestyle preferences on everybody else and to burn those who are unwilling or unable to comply (e.g. Salem witch trials and the Civil War).

    I am not a native Southerner, but having lived all over the country including in Yankee country I can state unequivocally that life is better in the South because while there are Yankee transplants everywhere, there aren’t enough of them here yet to make a difference.

    I began to loathe Yankees before leaving my original home and living on the East Coast. I was watching Ken Burns “The Civil War” and they showed a group of modern Yankees singing this song. Oh Good God, the unbearable smugness and superiority of these idiots.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  46. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Precious

    Well, if voting is part of white culture and Western Civilization, then perhaps Hispanics are just respecting the institution rather than culturally appropriating it for themselves. In which case, the diversity police should stop whining and respect their decision.

    Democracy is a sham. And voting is a sham meant to placate the masses. The ruling parties are controlled by the oligarchs and the parameters are set by the oligarchs . Voting merely ratifies what the oligarchs have already determined is best for you (i.e., them). If the majority in some local or state election step outside the bounds of what is permitted by the oligarchs, well, the oligarchs have some absolute-delegate (federal judge) overturn their vote. The majority of people in your state want a same-sex marriage ban? Tough, you don’t decide what’s good for them. They want voter ID laws? Uh, nope, not kosher, can’t allow it. The federal courts and Supreme Court exist merely to ratify and codify, with legal mumbo jumbo, what the oligarchs want. The tyranny of the minority.

  47. TheBoom says:

    Our (((fellow whites))) have taken the Hispanic vote for granted because it is potentially so large and such a game changer. Consequently, Hispanics don’t get their Trayvon Martins, Freddy Grays and Michael Browns and victims of Beckys. Surely, there must be a Becky who has falsely accused a Hispanic of giving her the wrong change at a store.

    From what I have seen, in terms of demographics of Hispanic voters, Trump does fairly well among Hispanic males and not so much among Hispanic females. Isn’t it time we started demonizing wrong thinking Hispanic males? The clock is ticking.

  48. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed

    Not seeing the Arab part.

    • Replies: @Ed
    , @Mis(ter)Anthrope
  49. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    belief developed by John Calvin

    Can’t imagine getting my theology from a French lawyer. But whatever.

    To amplify the point made by Hormisdas (#34):

    From The Jewish Revolutionary and Its Impact on World History by E. Michael Jones (Fidelity Press, 2008), p. 343:

    To acquiesce in the accusations that the reformed faith was judaizing and that Calvin and his associates were secret Jews? “The central contention of the opponents of Servetus,” says Newman, “was that his entire theological system was a vindication of Jews and Judaism.” Servetus was to Calvin what Muentzer was to Luther. He was the disciple who carried the master’s premise to its logical conclusion, and in so doing, left the new system dangerously exposed to attacks by its enemies. No revolution can succeed without a boundary on its flank, and the only way to create it is by brute physical force, since revolution has no internal order. So Zizka exterminated the Adamites; Luther urged the German princes to slay Muentzer and his peasant followers; and Calvin burned Servetus at the stake. Cromwell would have to deal with the Fifth Monarchy Men, and Stalin would have to deal with Trotsky, but the precedent was established. “When Calvin burned Michael Servetus at Geneva in 1553,” Newman writes, “he was trying to burn away the influence exercised by Marrano Judaism on the dogmas of Christianity.” He was also trying to maintain control over a movement that naturally tended toward Judaism. Calvin’s critics insisted that “by their strenuous insistence upon the effects of Adams’s transgression as compromising mankind at large, and Abraham’s readiness to sacrifice his only son,” Calvin and his fellow Reformers had “interspersed the religion of Christ with such an amount of Judaism that their Christianity was in many respects a relapse into the bonds of the Law from which Christ had set us free.”

  50. Excal says:
    @Anon

    The Hispanic citizens can vote. The others can’t.

    Are you sure? In the USA, there are ways.

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. Big Bill says:
    @anon

    In his wonderfully readable “History of the United States”, Page Smith called this evolving perfectionist/progressive historical theme “decayed puritanism”.

    They have been trying to create their “Shining City on a Hill”, their New Jerusalem, their Heaven right here on Earth since their first arrival on these shores.

    In the 1950s Voegelin traced the roots of this human perfectionism as far back as the 1300s and the writings of Joachim of Flora.

    Voegelin coined the phrase “immanentize the eschaton” to describe it.

  52. Regret says:

    A lot of Hispanics who got here the right way aren’t too fond of illegals. Just because liberals want to average all of them together doesn’t mean they really are a monolith.

  53. bomag says:
    @Ed

    He voted to NOT deport convicted felons.

    We don’t need that kind of Rand.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Ed
  54. @anon

    It’s all well and good to send the East Anglian Puritans to Hell. We all know the East Anglian Puritans were the ones who started the War Of Northern Aggression.

    We all know that East Anglian Puritan New England Ivy League baby boomer scumbag George W Bush was putting on a fake Southern accent and acting like he was Mr. Texas. Baby boomer scumbag globalizer Hillary Clinton went further than George W Bush by putting on a fake Southern Black accent to ingratiate herself to Black voters.

    BUT,

    The German American vote in the Great Lakes states is the big prize being fought over by the WASP/JEW Puritan ruling class and the White Core American Patriots.

    Sam Francis’s Middle American Radicals is less descriptive than White Core American Patriots(WCAP), and WCAP is even less descriptive than European Christian Ancestral Core.

    Haddon Hall guy from Long Island likes to use Good Whites vs Bad Whites. John always minds his Manners. I think that sounds too much like the “bad guys” rhetoric of some of the brainwashed globalizer asshole officers in the US military.

    Trump’s campaign was deliberately going after the German American vote like gangbusters.

    I ain’t going into the Aristotelian categorization of Krauts, but the Trump guys were focusing like hell on the Krauts who could be won over to Trump’s winning political message.

    Your comment was much better written than this slop, but I haven’t had enough coffee yet.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  55. Stick says:
    @syonredux

    Well Jews like Puritans were Old Testament people. Puritans were excessively paranoid and schizophrenic as are Jews. Both Puritans and Jews hate the Anglican and Evangelical South and Midwest. The parallels are striking.

  56. sondjata says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Actually the real deal would be to target black men. Black men support Trump almost 2:1 compared to black women. Keep hammering on jobs, immigration (related since a large portion of black men have to compete with immigrant labour at the “low end” of the market) and the recent ‘due process” issue brought about by “Special K”.

    A detailed:

    1) Your unemployment numbers are the lowest since…
    2) See what we did in Chicago when we got the illegal workers put out?
    3) Bring Brian Banks to a rally in any city with a relatively large black population and let him tell his story about how “believe women” got him jail time.

  57. ic1000 says:
    @Lot

    Shorter Lot: another Conquistador-American.

    • Replies: @Lot
  58. @Anonymous

    Gorsuch might be what I call a “Recovering Catholic.”

  59. @YetAnotherAnon

    In you heart of hearts, would Rodman be any worse than Haley? At least he was able to help bring North Korea to the table.

  60. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Ashkenazi Jews are “Puritan revolutionaries?”

    No, Puritans are Jews.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  61. charlie says:

    I’m surprised that isteve hasn’t also caught on the Draper article in the NYTIMES magazine section which makes a similar argument; despite the efforts of the progressive/socialist caucus immigration is not a great subject for the D party.

  62. Mike1 says:

    Everyone should try talking to people. Hispanics that work tend to strongly favor Trump. The ones in college hate him.

  63. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cato

    First person who told me “I’m for Trump “ was Hispanic. Mother is Spanish came for junior year abroad and stayed. Dad’s family was one of those who fled the Mexican civilian war bandit anarchy 1910 to 1930.

    • Replies: @Seth Largo
  64. @Ed

    A lot of black men are convinced felons, so they can’t vote. Which, of course, is why the left is trying so hard to change the laws that prohibit felons from voting.

  65. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Can’t they keep their saintliness to themselves instead of harassing the rest of the country?

  66. I’m old enough (that is, I remember the immigration “reform” and strangely simultaneous social security “reform” from the 1980’s) to remember when Mexican immigrants (nice, conservative anti- abortion Catholics) were going to help the GOP.

    On the whole, the Dems, being smarter, have got the better of the deal, even though maybe not all the benefit they may have wanted.

    Much of the true motivation for the favorable view on immigration in Washington is in fact the hope that input from immigrants would, if not solve the problems with sociall security, at least put it off until after the current (at any particular “present”) crop of pols has left office. Of course, no pol would now ever discuss it in those terms.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  67. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Rodman would be so cool. The UN is a ridiculous organization anyway. He’s smarter than most of the envoys there

    The building should be torn down and converted into something useful and the organization moved to Lagos.

  68. Christo says:

    The immigrant who have “made it” here are opposed to anymore immigrants coming in and shrinking their piece of the pie. The Democrats thought the Latino immigrants stupid as their black slave voters. Lyndon Johnson’s strategy only applied to that. The entire democrat invented ‘civil rights” movement will be destroyed by such hubris.

  69. Lowe says:
    @Precious

    Good point. Blog host has brought this up previously. Perhaps Hispanics like the USA the way it is, so would rather let the natives decide what to do.

  70. Forbes says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I’m pretty sure that’s Scots-Irish. Scots/Scottish are people. Scotch is a whiskey.

    • Agree: jim jones
  71. @Anon

    Liberals don’t distinguish that Hispanic voters, mostly native born citizens some naturalized , are a completely different demographic from hispanic illegal aliens and green card holders who aren’t citizens

    Yeah, the guy we pay to do our yardwork (legal) and his brother who works for him (illegal) have absolutely nothing in common.

    • Replies: @Anon
  72. Marty T says:

    Lots of Hispanic men have similar macho attitudes to Italian men, who generally like Trump.

  73. Lowe says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It would be pretty awesome if Rodman got appointed UN ambassador. My impression is that he deserves it.

  74. @anon

    American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites. Blacks, long-standing subordinate members of the family, are easily enlisted by the Puritans.

    These kinds of analyses are just bizarre. Yes, you could look at large swathes of American history prior to say 1960 and throw up that one sentence quick-and-dirty summary.

    But the Puritans are no longer the cultural dominant tribe. The Jews are far more dominant now, especially in terms of both elite media and mass cultural messaging–Hollyweird.

    And the rise of the Jews to dominance corresponds directly with the great unravelling in America–then the West. Obviously there are other big factors–general prosperity, the Cold War, the birth control pill, modern appliances and the reduced requirement for female household labor. But the triumph of a particularly Jewish ideology–minoritarianism–is clearly a huge part of the crisis.

    Note, i’m not saying the Puritan thing is no longer relevant–not at all. One reason America has been so easily rolled, is the Puritan ethos and utopian tendencies made our elites easy marks, for the ideology Jews rolled out. (And insufficiently aggressive and tribal to fight and refuse to cede territory.) Annoying Puritanish good-white fellow travellers are certainly readily found.

    One could easily go book length on trying to tease out all the separate ethno-ideological components of our crisis, but in a nutshell it’s easy to separate Puritan and Jewish ideologies:

    Puritans — Protestant Christian utopianism:
    We are a great nation, a shining city on a hill, built by our heroic founding fathers. To be worthy of living here–if it’s possible for you at all–all you drunken Micks, Italian goombas, ignorant cousin-marrying hillbillies, (poor and oppressed but nonetheless) lazy stupid blacks need to clean up your act! Sober up, stop yelling, stop fighting, stop beating your wives, get educated, work hard and … act like … us! And then we will achieve paradise on earth.

    Jews — Minoritarianism.
    Minorities are good, majorities are evil and oppressive–especially you white flyover hayseeds.
    America is an oppressive nation born in slavery and idigenous slaughter, which oppressed us with Harvard quotas and wouldn’t lets us into the best Country Clubs–and didn’t want us eyeing their blond daughters. But has been–only partially–redeemed by our presence, shaking things up, throwing off the yoke of white oppression and opening the place up to anyone in the world. When you racist pickup driving, gun toting, women raping deplorables are finally suppressed by a wave of diversity America can rise above its racist past and into it’s glorious rainbow hued future–under our wise and benevolent leadership, of course!.

    While both of these have a society-remaking, utopian element, these two ideologies are very different things, and whatever the defects of the first ideology, it is clearly the second ideology–which was not dominant and barely even extant in 1960–that is dominant now and that is killing us.

  75. @anon

    They are late-comers to the party who have sided with the Puritans.

    The Puritans were heavily influenced by Jews from the start. Their revolutionary spirit, in fact, is pretty obviously a borrowing of their Jewish neighbors’ tikkun olam.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @kaganovitch
  76. @anon

    They are late-comers to the party who have sided with the Puritans. They may be replacing them, though we shall see. From Puritans to Abolitionists to the modern Left is a direct line of descent. Jews are grafted onto this tree around 1900.

    There was no element of ethnomasochism or anti-whiteness in any non-Jewish “revolutionary” politics in this country, ever. Don’t conflate whatever you think the Puritans revolutionized with what concerns us today.

    The anti-white thing is Jewish in origin.

  77. Lot says:
    @ic1000

    Final conclusion: Judeo-Conquistador. You might call the Sephardi West Bank settlers the same thing though.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  78. Pat Boyle says:

    When I was a junior in high school I was taking Spanish. But I was unhappy. It was catholic military high school and I wasn’t meeting any girls. I staged a revolt and got to attend public high school.

    That’s why I only took a half semester of Spanish. My public high school didn’t have a language requirement.

    Now more than a half century later every Wednesday three Mexican ladies come to my house and clean. But I can’t talk to them. I was always very good in school in math and science but terrible in languages. Except for some difficulties on vacation in Europe, I have never regretted flunking French and German. But I suffer weekly for not applying myself better in Spanish class.

    Mexicans are so much superior to Africans in lower economic status jobs. It will be a long time until yard work and domestic cleaning are automated. America needs good workers for those kind of jobs and Negroes are dangerous and dishonest. I’m tempted to actually try to learn Spanish again.

    I don’t want to make a speech in Spanish or explain some tricky concept. There is a business opportunity here – Spanish for Employers of Domestic Workers.

  79. @Anon

    Liberals don’t distinguish that Hispanic voters, mostly native born citizens some naturalized , are a completely different demographic from hispanic illegal aliens and green card holders who aren’t citizens

    Liberals once idolized the late Cesar Chavez – my impression is that there is hardly a major city that doesn’t have a street somewhere named after him. They forget that Chavez was strongly opposed to lax border controls, and not only to illegal alien labor but also to “guest worker” programs, because all of these provided competition against his union’s members and drove down wages.

  80. In Slate, a smart Jewish guy from Mexico City explains to gringos that the American Establishment’s political Conventional Wisdom of 2000-2015 — the key to the White House is amnestying Mexican illegal aliens — is silly.

    The GOP ruling class used the Mestizo electoral ruse to hide their ravenous desire for a continuous supply of cheap labor.

    The Karl Rove mob of scumbag baby boomer whores for the GOP ruling class was just using the excuse of appealing to Mestizo voters to mask their intentions of keeping the mass immigration floodgates open.

    Politician whores such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Kevin Yoder and Barbara Comstock are all members of the GOP Cheap Labor Faction. These politician whores are pushing mass immigration, financialization and globalization.

    Ted Cruz’s wife worked for Goldman Sachs; she might still work for that evil nest of money-grubbing rats at Goldman Sachs.

    The GOP is a political party designed to keep the European Christian ancestral core of the USA from fighting for their interests as European Christians. The GOP is a clear and present threat to the safety and security of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

  81. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    Excellent point, and: this is par for their course, this is after all how they treat blacks and women and gays. You’re adorable as an agency-lacking child or you’re the devil if you can think for yourself.

  82. bomag says:
    @Anon

    The Boy Who Cried Wolf

    In today’s world, the Boy has political power and a megaphone. The cowed townspeople spend a large amount of time in struggle sessions for not being sufficiently anti-wolf.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  83. notanon says:

    i think one aspect of this is missing which is (in my experience anyway) that actual physical black turnout is generally very low as well (exception Obama) but the Dems have had much longer to organise voter fraud in black-majority districts with lots of local party workers with 40-50 years experience.

    so i think the tsunami (technically fraudulent but accurate in desired outcome) is probably just a matter of time.

    • Replies: @notanon
  84. @Pat Boyle

    I don’t want to make a speech in Spanish or explain some tricky concept. There is a business opportunity here – Spanish for Employers of Domestic Workers.

    Something similar is available at a local community college. It offers courses in “Construction Spanish” intended for Anglophone building contractors and supervisors who need to be able to communicate with their Hispanic crews.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  85. notanon says:
    @anon

    American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites.

    i agree that’s one aspect of what is happening but just to be clear you’re saying the overwhelmingly Jewish media are part of this white Puritan revolutionary faction?

    or, as the media are simply whores paid to write what their owners want are you saying that the *owners* of the media are part of the white Puritan revolutionary faction and not greedy sociopaths who want unlimited cheap labor?

    • Replies: @anon
  86. bomag says:
    @Pat Boyle

    three Mexican ladies come to my house and clean… Mexicans are so much superior to Africans in lower economic status jobs

    These are separate issues.

    We can have economic migrants without demographic change. Borders and visa regs need to be enforced. If TPTB can’t or won’t enforce rules, then we’re better off with dirtier houses rather than flooding the country with a different genotype.

    We’re going to have the same African problem with or without immigration.

  87. notanon says:
    @Lot

    Those complaining about the lack of Protestants on the Supeme Court: defend the disappointment that Gorsuch has been so far on immigration.

    dishonest straw man

  88. @Clifford Brown

    One of the very few pieces of political ground, shared by the vast majorities of native-born Negroes, native-born Hispanics, and Hispanic immigrants who have become citizens, is concern over the devastating impact illegal immigrants have on the employment and wages of working and lower class citizens. Trump’s approval ratings among these groups – far higher than those of any establishment Republican – are proof of this. If the Republican Party can wean itself from its anti-nativist elements and their big bucks supporters and wholeheartedly support Trump’s stands on border control, immigration and naturalization, and pro-labor trade and industrial policies, then these voting blocs are theirs for the taking. The Democrat Party base is so insanely anti-nativist at its core and within its base that the party would self-destruct if its establishment were to follow suit.

  89. notanon says:
    @Redneck farmer

    some of the expelled set up new sugar plantations on the Atlantic islands – it seems sugar was always a big part of slavery as it was so labor intensive – which created a mixed Jewish/African Creole population who later moved on to central America – i think that’s where the African component comes from.

  90. notanon says:
    @Ed

    I thought and there was some early speculation Trump would do well, about 10-15% with blacks.

    i must admit i thought that – based on working with lots of black men over the years – but the gender split blind-sided me.

  91. notanon says:
    @AnotherDad

    These kinds of analyses are just bizarre.

    it’s divide and rule: anti-anglo, prot vs cath and male vs female are all fertile ground so they get used a lot

  92. notanon says:
    @notanon

    to extend this point people say democracy is a bad idea* cos stupid people vote but they mostly don’t – Leftist activists have always had a terrible time getting the poor out to actually vote – hence all the voter fraud.

    (* maybe it is for other reasons)

  93. @syonredux

    What do you call it when the graft absorbs the tree?

    Dodder or strangler vine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuscuta

  94. According to exit polls, Trump won 29 percent of the Hispanic vote, outperforming Mitt Romney’s tally by 2 points.

    For the long game, the left has no need to improve its performance with Hispanics. 71-73 percent is plenty good enough as they become an ever-larger share of the electorate.

  95. @Ed

    The so-called Mexican Revolution was actually a race war. Ultimately the pure-blood Europeans won and have successfully maintained their dominance ever since. They accomplished this first by co-opting the Mestizos, then assassinating the two effective Indio leaders, Zapata and Villa, and finally setting up a faux constitutional democracy which they use to co-opt or suppress any potential Mestizo or Indio threats.

    • Replies: @Lot
  96. It would seem reasonable to assume that after three uninterrupted years of demonizing, ostracizing, and persecuting the country’s Hispanic immigrants, Trump and his nativist enablers would have hell to pay with Latinos at the ballot box, come November and beyond.

    Oh Liberals (sigh), the first rule of Understanding Things is to not believe your own bullshit. The article repeats over and over that Trump is against “Hispanic immigrants” when everyone who isn’t a card-carrying SJW, including Hispanics apparently, knows that Trump is actually against illegal Hispanic immigrants and in favor of legal Hispanic immigrants.

    Hispanic American voters or their recent ancestors all came legally, and face the most direct competition from the cheap labor of illegal “line cutters.” So why would they take enforcement of existing immigration laws as a personal offense?

    My wife’s family is Hispanic from New Mexico and in years past I got to listen to her father and uncle (who were in construction) bitch relentlessly about the “wetbacks” flooding into that state from Mexico.

  97. @eah

    What do those maps exactly represent?

    Whatever they represent, I’ll mention for people unfamiliar with California that the red areas in 2016 contain at best 5% of the state’s population. (Take out Fresno County and we’re down to maybe 2%.)

  98. @anon

    American politics is an on-going family feud between white Puritan revolutionaries and normal whites

    The original Puritans were smart enough to keep their states 99% white. Their biggest crime was taking marriage from the church and giving it to the state.

    Allowing Africans to move here was the most radical, revolutionary policy ever adopted in this country, and it preceded the arrival of the Puritans.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  99. @donald j tingle

    I’m old enough…to remember when Mexican immigrants (nice, conservative anti- abortion Catholics) were going to help the GOP.

    Wow, old enough to remember W’s administration. I think there are a few folks here even older than that though.

    the Dems, being more brazenly dishonest have got the better of the deal

    There, fixed it for you.

  100. @Peter Akuleyev

    Peter, how are you holding up since the whole glorious Kavanaugh triumph?

  101. @Lot

    If it fires, hausfrau on the left will catch the pistol with her forehead. Woman on the right forgot her only mag back in the pantry.

    • LOL: Anonym
    • Replies: @Lot
  102. @Ed

    However the black vote is driven more by black women, about 2/3 of black voters are women

    Felonies, outstanding warrants, and child support arrears have a way of doing that.

  103. @Lowe

    It would be pretty awesome if Rodman got appointed UN ambassador.

    Agreed. It would have the benefit of both treating the UN with the respect and seriousness it deserves, while also causing more leftist heads to explode.

  104. @Anon

    Probably impossible to do at this point, but that wave of Mexican Revolution-era immigrants (plus their descendants) would be interesting to study. My grandparents switched Republican in the Reagan era; my mother was always conservative; I hang out here.

    I imagine people fleeing socialist revolution tend to produce a more conservative culture in their new homeland. 1920s/30s Mexican immigrants are probably a lot like Cubans in that way.

  105. syonredux says:
    @Anon

    Ashkenazi Jews are “Puritan revolutionaries?”

    No, Puritans are Jews.

    Lothrop Stoddard was descended from Jews?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothrop_Stoddard

    • Replies: @Matra
    , @Charles Pewitt
  106. @Anon

    I’ve never understood why any moderately successful and assimilated Mexican (American) would be sympathetic to the massive, low-skilled Latin American immivasion. The low-skilled brown masses are only making you an identifiable underclass.

  107. syonredux says:
    @Stick

    Well Jews like Puritans were Old Testament people.

    Well, minus stuff like being steeped in the teachings of Christian thinkers like Augustine….

    Puritans were excessively paranoid and schizophrenic as are Jews.

    Definitely a paranoid strain amongst the 17th century Puritans (fears of witchcraft, etc)…but did the Puritans have rates of schizophrenia?

    Both Puritans and Jews hate the Anglican and Evangelical South and Midwest.

    Jews were not known for disliking the South in the antebellum era….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Levy_Yulee

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/112312/new-yorks-pro-slavery-rabbi

    And large chunks of the Mid-West were settled by New Englanders….

    The parallels are striking.

    Not as much as you think….

  108. syonredux says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Yes, we do have Puritan-descended overlords, descended ideologically if not genetically. Elizabeth Warren and Andrew Cuomo are two ideological Puritans despite their genetic heritage. To be a Puritan means to be smugly superior to everyone else, so superior that you are willing to use force to enforce your lifestyle preferences on everybody else

    So, the South Carolina Fire-Eaters were Puritans? Who knew?

    and to burn those who are unwilling or unable to comply (e.g. Salem witch trials and the Civil War).

    Witches in New and Old England were hanged, not burned.

  109. syonredux says:
    @Hormisdas

    Now the only way to avoid this shipwreck, and to provide for our posterity, is to follow the counsel of Micah, to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God. For this end, we must be knit together, in this work, as one man. We must entertain each other in brotherly affection. We must be willing to abridge ourselves of our superfluities, for the supply of others’ necessities. We must uphold a familiar commerce together in all meekness, gentleness, patience and liberality. We must delight in each other; make others’ conditions our own; rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, as members of the same body. So shall we keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. The Lord will be our God, and delight to dwell among us, as His own people, and will command a blessing upon us in all our ways, so that we shall see much more of His wisdom, power, goodness and truth, than formerly we have been acquainted with. We shall find that the God of Israel is among us, when ten of us shall be able to resist a thousand of our enemies; when He shall make us a praise and glory that men shall say of succeeding plantations, “may the Lord make it like that of New England.” For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. So that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world. We shall open the mouths of enemies to speak evil of the ways of God, and all professors for God’s sake. We shall shame the faces of many of God’s worthy servants, and cause their prayers to be turned into curses upon us till we be consumed out of the good land whither we are going.

    A Model of Christian Charity
    By Governor John Winthrop
    1630

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Romanian
  110. syonredux says:
    @Stick

    Well Jews like Puritans were Old Testament people.

    Well, minus stuff like being steeped in the teachings of Christian thinkers like Augustine….And the Jews are more accurately described as the People of the Talmud…

    Puritans were excessively paranoid and schizophrenic as are Jews.

    Definitely a paranoid strain amongst the 17th century Puritans (fears of witchcraft, etc)…but did the Puritans have high rates of schizophrenia?

    Both Puritans and Jews hate the Anglican and Evangelical South and Midwest.

    Jews were not known for disliking the South in the antebellum era….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Levy_Yulee

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/112312/new-yorks-pro-slavery-rabbi

    And large chunks of the Mid-West were settled by New Englanders….

    The parallels are striking.

    Not as much as you think….

  111. @anon

    Hey! That’s a good point. But “normal” whites are a completely abnormal combination themselves. Italian “Republicans” from NYC along with Middle Idjit Muricans and Nazis and “Jesus loves Trump” Crazy Evangelicals and Blue Collar Trash from the Rust Belt… puh leese the Trump tent is a Circus and the ringmaster is a clown.

    Hispanics are basically stupid and come from a culture that prizes stupidity and abstract conformity. Definitely not too much in common with English Revolutionaries.

    It really comes down to the stupid vs the intelligent.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  112. @Hormisdas

    Catholics are stupid, trashy and generally less successful or inventive than Protestants. And Southern Anglicans are less than Northern Revolutionaries.

    Only Puritans come even close to real Christians. There is a reason the true Church was in Britain and nearby, not the Greek-Roman middle lower hangalongs.

    Notice you are still chasing someone else, but no one is in the least interested in you.

    • Replies: @Anon
  113. Lot says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    True, but they’re adorable all the same.

  114. Lot says:
    @eah

    Probably the 94 gov race and 2016 presidential election.

  115. @anon

    “Puritans” aren’t the problem.

    The rural counties of greater New England, where the old-stock protestant Yankees live, voted for Trump.

    • Replies: @Matra
  116. Corvinus says:
    @AnotherDad

    “But the triumph of a particularly Jewish ideology–minoritarianism–is clearly a huge part of the crisis.”

    Actually, minoritarianism is a European ideology. Whenever the non-English arrived here as colonizers, settlers, or immigrants, they brought with them the notion that they could practice their cultural lifestyle while influencing the larger society.

    “but in a nutshell it’s easy to separate Puritan and Jewish ideologies…”

    What you created here is a false premise, which given your nutty nature, is other than surprising.

  117. Corvinus says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    “We all know the East Anglian Puritans were the ones who started the War Of Northern Aggression.”

    Actually, we all know it were Southern Baptists and Presbyterians who owned slaves who helped to usher in the Civil War.

    “The German American vote in the Great Lakes states is the big prize being fought over by the WASP/JEW Puritan ruling class and the White Core American Patriots.”

    According to Who/Whom? Does the average American white even make those two distinctions?

    “Haddon Hall guy from Long Island likes to use Good Whites vs Bad Whites.”

    Again, let us NOTICE in our current ideological climate who are the Bad Guys and who are the Good Guys.

    BAD
    Trouble maker white –> Middle Eastern and Jewish

    We feel sorry for you because you are not white –> blacks, Asians, indigenous

    Fake white –> SJW, leftist, and/or feminist designation

    PROBABLY BAD
    Inferior white –> white + black or Asian or indigenous or mutt

    You may be white, but probably not –> those who are wiggers

    Wannabe whites –> those who lighten their skin to pass as white

    Nazi white –> those who are extremist whites or in the KKK or those who love Hitler

    PROBABLY GOOD
    White, but not white –> those who oppose the Alt Right but are not leftists or feminists

    Simply white –> whites who prefer not to be labeled as white…receive the label

    GOOD
    True white –> Alt Right designation

    Exceptional white –> Alt Right designation + trace ancestors directly from 13 colonies

  118. Exceptional white –> Alt Right designation + trace ancestors directly from 13 colonies

    Wait…, I thought like 50% of all whites in the USA can trace back to an ancestor who lived in one of the original colonies in 1776.

  119. Matra says:
    @syonredux

    Don’t forget that Puritan/Huguenot-descendant Madison Grant. Obviously another Judeo-Puritan Nordic who defeated the naturally right wing Ellis Islanders to make America the leftist paradise it is today. Damn Puritans!

    • Agree: ben tillman
  120. Matra says:
    @John Gruskos

    I believe they were also the demographic most likely to vote against FDR.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  121. @syonredux

    I know Stoddard as a New England placename.

    The surname Stoddard has something to do with horses, the internet says it is Northumbrian.

    I wonder if Lothrop Stoddard had any Norman ancestry?

  122. Ed says:
    @Anonymous

    In the show the 4th girl from the left goes through her family history. Her great-granddad came from Kurdistan. She still goes there fairly regularly. The guy next to her said his grandparents immigrated from Lebanon. The first woman from the left is married to her brother. She also claims descent from Montezuma.

  123. Ed says:
    @bomag

    When was this I must have missed it. I recall a case where he sided with liberals where he said the govt couldn’t have open ended dates on deportation notices.

    • Replies: @Travis
  124. the Judeo-demoncrats need flip only one more state – Florida – to White minority in order to make the Republiscams a a landlocked regional party (high plains-midwest-innersouth) locked into permanent decline. Trump’s fake White populism saved the cheap-labor crazy Republiscams for one last election cycle.

    that won’t happen again.

    • Replies: @Ed
  125. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simple Pseudonym

    Saint Margaret of Scotland would beg to differ with you.

    What does something that happened 1,000 years ago have to do with anything?

  126. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Sounds like the communist manifesto.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  127. syonredux says:
    @Matra

    Vermont and Maine were the only states that went Republican in the Presidential election of 1936.

  128. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Boyle

    There are plenty of little books of Spanish English housekeeping. They’ve been around for at least 40 years.

    Buy one if you need one. You won’t find the terms in high school Spanish class.

  129. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    The Puritans were nothing more than wanna be jews who rejected the Christian bible to wallow in the slay the enemy parts of the Jewish bible

  130. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    My post wasn’t about legal and illegal immigrants who can’t vote but about Hispanic citizens who can vote and immigrants who can’t vote.

    Only voters can elect presidents governors and other elected officials.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  131. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Excal

    Not enough to make a difference

  132. Hibernian says:
    @eah

    ’94 was a Republican year. You have to go back to Reagan’s ’67 to ’75 time in office to find a Conservative California.

  133. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    He may be a High Church Anglican. There aren’t many genuine examples of those anymore.

  134. Hibernian says:
    @Hormisdas

    Are you Jake under a new username?

  135. @Big Bill

    ‘Decayed puritanism’ = heresy.

    When you start believing that you can be as God, i.e. that your plan to save the world is better than his — that’s when the real problems start.

  136. @AnotherDad

    Puritans — Protestant Christian utopianism:
    We are a great nation, a shining city on a hill, built by our heroic founding fathers.

    But the problem is, today’s heretical WASPs/Puritans don’t believe this anymore. It’s the last sentence in your description that’s correct, i.e. ‘And then we will achieve paradise on earth’.

    As their pride has grown, they’re no longer satisfied with being that shining city that is a light to the nations. They now want to usurp God himself, and take on saving the whole world. They’ve sold off their faith, and are selling off their nation, for the mess of pottage that is their Leninist and Lennonist ‘Imagine’-d neo-Babel.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  137. @Anon

    My post wasn’t about legal and illegal immigrants who can’t vote but about Hispanic citizens who can vote and immigrants who can’t vote.

    Only voters can elect presidents governors and other elected officials.

    And why are you telling me this? My post was about exactly the same thing, so I got your point.

  138. Onrushing Hispanic Electoral Tsunami Postponed for Another Two Years

    Hasn’t the SPLC complained about our using such watery terms for people we don’t want here, e.g., flow, swamp, drown, flood, inundate?

  139. @The Last Real Calvinist

    …for the mess of pottage that is their Leninist and Lennonist ‘Imagine’-d neo-Babel.

    When we had our own Leninist in power, he was rejected by the Puritan scions, and embraced by the anti-Puritans.

  140. notanon says:

    WASP Puritans don’t dominate the media

    WASP Puritans are almost completely dominated by the media’s gas-lighting.

    (and this matters disproportionately cos they are exceptionally good at the whole synergy thing and it will be very difficult to get out of this while they continue to be on the wrong side)

  141. Whiskey says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    This comment is worthy of Occam’s Butterknife. I.E. everything was hunky-dory until you meddling … JEWS ruined things. This is something that the Jew-blamers never have been able to explain. America was not lacking in Jews from the start. There were so many and of such stature that George Washington as President felt obligated to a pen a letter to a Jewish synagogue among his many other duties.

    Nor indeed if you look at people like Chuck or Amy Schumer, is there shining through a deep concern with the well being and welfare of non-Whites. Ditto Sarah Silverman, particularly early in her career when she mined the “little girl voice saying awful naughty things” for shock-value humor (cheap but effective at the time). [She got in trouble for mocking Chinese accents and languages]. If you look at say, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (and they certainly were Jewish) you don’t see a driving concern with Black people in Mississippi. They were Atomic Spies (well Julius was, Ethel seems to have been his loyal dupe) not racial crusaders.

    What Jews were post 1900 was intensely, absolutely urban. Concentrated in just a few cities: New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia seems to have been the abode of about 85% of all Jews in the US until the 1990s. And as urbanites aspired to and largely got dominance in: the legal profession (as lawyers and judges), “journalism” and infotainment generally, and government service and NGOistans like NPR and PBS, etc. The traditional Puritan elite abstained from these pursuits, mostly, see the Bush family: the oil business, baseball teams, and stints as CIA Director, VP and President, Governors etc. The McCain family is a nice contrast with the Schumer family. The McCains had a family business in the Navy, and military politics. The Schumers were aggressive newcomers on the make who would never, ever take up Military service because how could one get paid? That sort of stuff is for families that already have money and want more power.

    The Puritan WASP elite has not vanished: they still dominate the leadership of places like the FBI, CIA, EXXON, and most major industrial and consumer corporations. A dude like Rex Tilllerson does not make a lot of news in his ordinary CEO of EXXON life, unlike the Schumers who seek the spotlight. He like many old line aristocrats already have money and power. At the lower level of leadership you get people like Peter Strozk and Lisa Page and Patrick Fitzgerald and James O’Neill and so on who are the Catholic or ethnic White lower aristocracy also seen in the US Attorney’s office and in police work, the lower ranks of the military, etc. And of course there is the role played by the Black Aristocracy — Attorneys General Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch do not exactly lack power and did not just come off the Mississippi turnip truck. Holder was Clinton’s long time bag man for the Marc Rich pardon.

    The more simpler explanation is that the elites, old money old line people like the Bushes, McCains, etc. who already made their money generations ago felt first that Blacks were sacred objects of worship far better than Jesus, and Jews went along for the lucrative ride dropping that old Communism and Uncle Joe for the far better money makers of Sacred Civil Rights for Blacks. So disconnected suburban White moms could feel superior to Becky down the street, and old line inherited wealth dudes like the Bushes could feel aristocratically superior to a bunch of tobacco chawin Rednecks and the like.

    Black people are a good object for worship because unlike Jesus they make no inconvenient demands on sexual behavior, tithing, community service, religious study, and the like. And who among White people does not desire to be the “most” holy and keeping the sacred? Since the female driven consumerism devalues courage, honor, and physical prowess (outside sportsball)?

    • Replies: @notanon
  142. notanon says:
    @Whiskey

    This is something that the Jew-blamers never have been able to explain.

    1) banking mafia

    2) banking mafia’s media pets

    next question

    #

    thing is there’s a lot of possibilities between

    (a) all Jews are engaged in a conscious tribal conspiracy

    and

    (b) we dindu nuffin

    but these ludicrous attempts to defend option (b) reinforce belief in option (a).

  143. @Pat Boyle

    Now more than a half century later every Wednesday three Mexican ladies come to my house and clean. But I can’t talk to them.

    One word you need to know: telaraña.

    Una telaraña es una estructura construida por una araña con su seda de araña proteica, a través de sus hileras.

    Cognate for araña: arachnid.

  144. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT You’d think they’d know what the Streisand effect was.

    An Israel court has ordered two New Zealand women to pay damages for harming the “artistic welfare” of three Israeli teenagers after the pop star Lorde cancelled a planned performance in Tel Aviv.
    Judge Mirit Fohrer ruled that Justine Sachs and Nadia Abu-Shanab of New Zealand must pay damages to Israeli teenagers Shoshana Steinbach, Ayelet Wertzel and Ahuva Frogel totalling more than NZ$18,000 for writing a letter urging the singer to cancel her concert in Tel Aviv, the Jerusalem Post reports.
    It is believed to be the first effective use of a 2011 Israeli law allowing civil lawsuits of anyone who encourages a boycott of Israel.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/12/israel-fines-new-zealand-teenagers-18000-for-urging-lorde-concert-boycott

  145. @Anon

    Sounds more like something from a D.S. Wilson book discussing religious groups as organisms in their own right.

  146. anon[801] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    I would only add that the Jewish and Puritan view share common ground in their disdain for the Hillbillies, which happen to be my own tribe. What the Puritans started has been continued by the Abolitionists and now the modern Left. I am certainly open to the view that Jewish minoritarianism has joined, taken over, and redirected that cause in doubly destructive ways.
    Still, I blame the damn Yankees. The Jews may be writing the script now, but Puritan Hillary is their face.

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @ben tillman
  147. anon[801] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    Puritan zeal is contagious. The Jewish element has climbed aboard and may be running the train by now, for their own reasons, but Puritan zeal is what keeps the thing going. The “urge to purge” is what defines the Puritans, Abolitionists, Communist Left, and the new Diversity Left. Human nature as is cannot stand – it must be purged. That’s a Puritan.

    • Replies: @notanon
  148. Jay Fink says:

    I live in a 50% Hispanic city, have lot’s of Hispanic friends and share a house with a Hispanic family. I know this culture well and they are not interested in politics. On election night 2016 the family I live with totally ignored the election and instead watched a rerun of a situation comedy.

  149. Escher says:

    Voting times need to be arranged to account for siestas.

  150. @ben tillman

    Their revolutionary spirit, in fact, is pretty obviously a borrowing of their Jewish neighbors’ tikkun olam.

    This is an historically illiterate thesis. Tikkun Olam ideology is a very recent development in “Jewish” theology. It is the bastard child of Reform Judaism and the civil rights movement and it co-opted a term that appears in earlier sources with a completely different meaning , in order to provide a religious veneer to a “Social Justice” movement. As our esteemed host has often pointed out, Time , flows in one direction only. Explaining 17th century phenomena, by reference to 20th century ideologies is deranged nonsense.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  151. Ed says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Trump won GA, SC and NC all of which are on the east coast and original colonies of America.

    Mitt Romney also won these states.

  152. Hank Yobo says:
    @Stick

    Weren’t the original Puritans devout Anglicans whose goal was to “purify” their national church?

  153. notanon says:
    @anon

    it’s true the media have weaponized Puritan zeal into the current anti-white death spiral

    so the question becomes what is driving the media into creating an anti-white death spiral

    and your contention is – given that the media write what their owners want them to write or they wouldn’t keep their job – the media’s owners share the Puritan zeal of the people they are manipulating into self-harm

    so if you were correct you’d expect to see the media apply the concept of disparate impact to everyone – including themselves – and not just non-Jewish White people?

    • Replies: @anon
  154. notanon says:
    @anon

    Puritan Hillary is their face.

    her private speeches to the banks prove beyond any doubt she sold her soul to the banks in exchange for campaign funding

  155. Travis says:
    @Ed

    Sessions v. Dimaya concerned the Immigration and Nationality Act. The law allows the deportation of any alien convicted of an “aggravated felony,” which includes a “crime of violence.” That encompasses any felony that “by its nature, involves a substantial risk” of “physical force against the person or property.” Gorsuch joining Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan decided to strike down the law. Neil Gorsuch, affirmed the 9th Circuit’s ruling that Section 16(b) is unconstitutionally vague.

    An immigrant from the Philippines, James Dimaya had two residential burglary convictions. Based on the convictions, the immigration court and the Board of Immigration Appeals ordered Dimaya removed from the United States. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit overturned the BIA’s order, finding that Section 16(b) was unconstitutionally vague. Gorsuch agreed, and thus convicted alien felons are now allowed to stay in the United States.

  156. J1234 says:

    The immigration patriot group I belong to has a Hispanic immigrant lady in it. This would probably be confusing for Dems, but I don’t know why. White conservatives are often trying to prove to the world that they aren’t racist, so why wouldn’t many legal Hispanic immigrants want to prove to the world that they aren’t pro-illegal immigration? It’s politically and ethically logical for legal immigrants to disassociate themselves from illegal immigrants, but many won’t display that sentiment because of pressure from their communities and especially from marxist oriented leaders within those communities.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  157. Lot says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Like most high casualty civil wars, nobody won the Mexican Revolution. A large share of the European immigrant population invited over by Porfirio Diaz the prior 35 years permanently fled, and about 10% of the total population died.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  158. @Anonymous

    Off the top of my head, I know thatCarlos Slim and Selma Hayak are both of Lebanese descent.

  159. @Lot

    Body counts don’t determine the winner of a war.

    Consider the US experiences in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and all our country’s other recent military adventures where, despite our soldiers slaying by the hundreds of thousands and despite a “kill-ratio” overwhelmingly in our favor, any rational observer will conclude that we have lost or are losing each of these wars.

    Who wins a war is determined by who is holding the disputed territory and who is running things when the mayhem stops. By that standard, the Mexican population of pure European ancestry won the so-called Mexican Revolution.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  160. @anon

    I would only add that the Jewish and Puritan view share common ground in their disdain for the Hillbillies, which happen to be my own tribe. What the Puritans started has been continued by the Abolitionists and now the modern Left. I am certainly open to the view that Jewish minoritarianism has joined, taken over, and redirected that cause in doubly destructive ways.

    It’s a completely separate phenomenon, except to the extent they had common antecedents in the 17th century and earlier. Jews like Kallen and Zangwill started something entirely new.

  161. @kaganovitch

    This is an historically illiterate thesis. Tikkun Olam ideology is a very recent development in “Jewish” theology.

    You’re wrong.

    Here’s a mundane mainstream source:

    http://jewishjournal.com/tag/tikkun-olam/

    In the 16th century, tikkun olam became part of Lurianic Kabbalah.

    More:

    https://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/how-the-ari-created-a-myth-and-transformed-judaism

    For many modern Jews, the term tikkun olam (repairing the world) has become a code-phrase synonymous with social and environmental action. It is linked to a call for healing the ills of the world. Indeed, tikkun olam has become the defining purpose of much of modern Jewish life. What many of those who use this term do not know is that this idea is rooted in the last great myth infused into Jewish tradition, a cosmological myth created in the sixteenth century by the great Jewish mystic, Rabbi Isaac Luria of Safed, known as the Ari (1534-1572)

  162. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    I’ll qualify my statement. Puritan reformer zeal is a moral code and moral theme running through our history, originally planted here by Puritans, taken up by others, and is very evident in Abolitionism in the 19th century and Left wing crazies today. The Jewish/Israeli interest is another force, frequently allied with the Left for its own reasons, depending on the issue. Owners of any persuasion making money are a third force which has found it convenient to promote some of the Left wing agenda.
    I don’t think most of the media owners have any moral code at all. The reform zeal today is found mostly among the foot soldiers and mid level political managers. The leaders I assume are cynical and do whatever they can for power. Though pathetically, Hillary seems to believe her own rhetoric, at least the man-hating part.
    To further complicate things, the reform zeal isn’t all bad. It’s good to put an end to human sacrifice, cannibalism, slavery, etc. But for every Good you invite in your front door you let two Evils in through the back. John Brown in the 19th century and the anti-white male stupidities of today are examples of that.

    • Replies: @notanon
  163. notanon says:
    @anon

    i agree Puritan reformer zeal is a big part of what is happening (and i also agree that Puritan zeal is very much a double edged sword).

    what i’m saying is the Puritan reformer type person is currently being manipulated by a media which doesn’t share their nature and is just using their nature to get something the media’s owners want e.g. keeping the white debils divided over immigration policy until it’s too late.

  164. AndrewR says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Africans were not “allowed” to move here.

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