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From the BBC:

Sepp Blatter: Hope Solo accuses ex-Fifa president of sexual harassment

US goalkeeper Hope Solo has accused former Fifa president Sepp Blatter of sexual harassment.

The World Cup winner, 36, says the incident happened at the 2013 Ballon d’Or awards, before she went on stage to present an award.

In an interview with Portugal newspaper Expresso, Solo – who has 202 caps – said: “I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass.”

If we can’t have faith in the purity of the leaders of the international soccer movement, whom can we trust?

Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.

On the other hand, I’m struck by what a high percentage of the names in the news so far are extremely … expected. Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Brett Ratner? Louis C.K.? And now …

Seth Blatter Grabbed Hope Solo’s Ass

These are mostly guys who were already notorious as terrible jerks.

OK, I admit I was a little surprised by the George H.W. Bush Shocking Revelations, but I presume that’s the senility talking, that Bush the Elder behaved in a more gentlemanly, self-controlled fashion in, say, 1990 on the runway with Margaret Thatcher while discussing Saddam. The Democrats were always trying back in the day to claim that Bush the Elder had a mistress, but the woman they pointed to wasn’t talking and, anyway, if she was sleeping with Bush, she seemed like she would have been a pretty wise choice for the job of Discreet Vice Presidential Mistress and thus reflected rather well on the Republican candidate’s competence at organizing a staff. (Or maybe she was an MI-6 agent? Who knows?)

So part of what’s going on is that journalists are making up lists of low-hanging fruit to go after because they expect a high Return On Investment. As I pointed out when discussing the Los Angeles Times’ investigation into James Toback, even I, mere magazine-reading me, had been aware since the 1970s that Toback shouldn’t be left alone with females under 40. He’s like an ugly Warren Beatty.

Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”

Now, it could turn out that eventually the current sex scandal will produce a genuinely shocking discovery — e.g., that, say, Saving Private Ryan

was concocted by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks as an elaborate excuse to spend Monday-Friday in Normandy so they could conveniently spend their weekends partaking of nearby Belgium’s notorious pedophile prostitution culture. (Please note: I totally made that up. I’m not aware of any rumors to that effect.)

That would be depressing.

But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Neoconned
    Had never heard of the Belgium killer freak but thanks for the link Steve. Anyway looks like the Femquisition is running on fumes

    How many more b actors from the 90s and random political or sports figures are left to Lynch by the Twitterati Lynch mob?
    , @Forbes
    The "harass women" angle appears wrong. Women readers pursued the teen girl writer posing-as-man, who "got married" to stave off the "interested" women readers. (Which goes a long way to demonstrate that women don't understand men. A married man is even more appealing/attractive to women suitors, as marriage serves to confirm the man's fitness.)
  2. There are rumors that Spielberg used to fly on the Lolita Express, along with George Lucas. But then, it seemed pretty much anybody rich and famous flew that plane.
    Also, Epstein’s island could be reached by boat, obviously.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

  3. @BB753
    There are rumors that Spielberg used to fly on the Lolita Express, along with George Lucas. But then, it seemed pretty much anybody rich and famous flew that plane.
    Also, Epstein's island could be reached by boat, obviously.

    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie's love interest when they first met? It's pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.
    , @carol
    I suspect famous or powerful people act unhappy when stuck in conversation with someone who is of no use to them.
    , @Lurker
    I hope to see the day when he is made really, really unhappy.
    , @Lugash
    I'm sure Epstein is actually the life of a party. Otherwise, why would so many rich and powerful people hang out with him all the time?

    Other fun coincidences: Rose McGowan was part of The Family International, a pedophilia/prostitution cult. As were the Phoenix siblings, whose mother managed to go from fruit picker to NBC studio exec assistant.
    , @SteveRogers42
    He had probably just come from a tiring meeting with his Mossad handlers.
  4. Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn’t bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo’s ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He’s part of an older generation of college boys, that’s all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    "Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong" lololololooloolololoollolloooooooooooooooooooooooloolololololololloloololololllolololololollloollolololollolololollolololloolloolollololololollololololoolooollllooloo.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. If you cuck betas knew what we alphas did to your wives daughters girlfriends mothers and sisters- AND THEY LIKED IT.

    You want to know whats sooooooooo wroooooong ? consensual ass grabbing!
    , @slumber_j

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news.
     
    For example: drunken dick jokes like my now-disgraced friend Roy Price made to a humorless lesbian years ago. Except apparently not.
    , @EdwardM
    Seriously. An ESPN headline screams "sexual assault" and then the first three sentences mention the conduct with increasing specificity.

    1. "Sexually assaulted her"
    2. "Groped her"
    3. Gets around to quoting her: "I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass"

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/21366266/hope-solo-says-ex-fifa-president-sepp-blatter-sexually-assaulted-her
    , @Almost Missouri

    "Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn’t bother to tell anybody."
     
    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn't think so.
    , @anon
    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo’s ass?

    Is that a serious question?

    If even half of Amy Schumer's stories about her sex life are true, I'd say that lots of men would.

    Actually, I didn't even know who Hope Solo was, so I looked up some pictures of her. I'm not saying I'd just grab her ass randomly, but if there was some type of scale that judged women by the number of beers it took before you DID do that...

    Well, maybe I should just stop there. Fitness is pretty attractive, really.
    , @Olorin

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing
     
    Bearing in mind, of course, that the definition of "consensual" has been getting torn down as fast as historic statues and replaced with...I'm not exactly sure what. Apparently something equivalent to the 120-page pre-nup, but required every 4 seconds or so.

    https://www.thefire.org/antiochs-infamous-sexual-assault-policy/

    Woah, that was TEN YEARS AGO?

    (And Antioch is dead. So there's that.)

    My point being that once upon a time, many "liberated" women were in fact as loose as slutwalkers and used allowance of ass-grabbage and much more as a way to distinguish themselves from more modest females in their effort to achieve career beachheads.

    Not all women in various workplaces slept their way to the top, and many had careers that suffered for it. So now it seems the more slutty ones are pretending to be them. Or something. I don't know. All I know is that being a square and a prude socially and professionally was a very long term investment that didn't pay the big dividends of servicing the Weinsteins in earlier years...but sure is paying off now.
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    If Hope Solo is the woman in that picture, and Blatter really did grab her ass, he's gotta be about half queer.
    , @Thea
    When I was in Middle School, ass grabbing was all the rage. I might not have liked it much but the alternative was far worse.


    I need to see if any of my former classmates are rich & famous now to cash in.
  5. “I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass.”

    Hope Solo: “I had a bad feeling about this!”

    (Is it in the same league as having Jabba the Hutt grab your ass?)

  6. @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie’s love interest when they first met? It’s pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
     
    This seems to be a modern thing.In general, genuinely good people are or eventually become happy, especially in a sympathetic milieu. Vide my relatives who grew up in the Catholic community in Colombo.
    , @syonredux

    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie’s love interest when they first met? It’s pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.
     
    Wasn't it Lucas who was pushing the idea of Marion being scandalously young?

    G[Lucas] — I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known
    this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.
    L[Kasdan] — And he was forty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He hasn't seen her in twelve years. Now she's twenty-two. It's a real strange
    relationship.
    S[Spielberg] — She had better be older than twenty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He's thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she
    was only twelve.
     

    G[Lucas] — Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it's an outrageous idea, but it is interesting.
    Once she's sixteen or seventeen it's not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and
    he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was
    madly in love with him and he...
     
    http://maddogmovies.com/almost/scripts/raidersstoryconference1978.pdf
  7. Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This announcement from Bizarro World has been brought to you by Tiny Duck.

    Tiny Duck: Comic relief for when your colored cow-orker is going after the whitey secretary as his wife awaits a child.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Black men prefer very large asses. Rather than discretely grabbing, a man sort of has to wrap his entire being around one of those things. Therefore, black men just proceed directly to rape.
    , @tyrone
    TINY! you're back did you scream at the sky on the 8th
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    This is true. MOC donate the sperm and then leave to give women space to raise the kids by themselves.
    And the violent raping
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    Nicole Brown Simpson, for one, can confirm that "Men of Color treat women with respect."
    , @Peter Akuleyev

    Interesting that it is only white men who do this
     
    And mostly Jewish men at that. It is only men who have economic and political power who get away with this (and some women actually, but men are afraid to call them out for obvious reasons). Black men by and large do not enjoy real economic and political power in the US and know that a connected white woman could destroy their careers at any moment. Even Obama served at the pleasure of white men and women, which is one reason why he never came across as a very powerful leader. There are a few black people who have the power to make and destroy careers, and who could pull off this kind of harassment - Oprah for sure, maybe Chris Rock, the Wayans brothers and Tyler Perry. But certainly the pool of blacks with real power, as opposed to the license given to jocks to rape co-eds with impunity, is pretty small.
    , @Steve in Greensboro
    If by “treating white women with respect” you mean beating them senseless and then raping them, then yes.
  8. I don’t think Hope Solo’s character is at a level where any charge she makes should be considered gospel. Like others have said it is a minor accusation, but that doesn’t mean it happened either.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Hope might as well be wearing a big T-Shirt at her press conference with the words "#MeToo!" on it, followed by the website of her upcoming reality show.

    Fake charge.
  9. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    This announcement from Bizarro World has been brought to you by Tiny Duck.

    Tiny Duck: Comic relief for when your colored cow-orker is going after the whitey secretary as his wife awaits a child.

  10. But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.

    Well, we’re not close, but we’re getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don’t rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes “Jaws.” When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint’s tale of woe, all I’ll be thinking is whether or not he’s wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses…

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone’s thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider “taking one for the team,” in that case?

    Same goes for “Back to the Future,” and… hmm.. “The Man Who Would Be King” deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    • LOL: utu
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    And there goes “Jaws.”
     
    No way. Jaws will always be a great movie. Close Encounters of the Third Kind too. And I don't care how many weenie-waggers prove to have been involved.

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn't be so quick to condemn - no man has an interest in promoting that.
    , @Olorin

    consider sparing our holiday classics.
     
    Your holiday classics should be the stories your ancestors told your great-grandparents and they told your parents and they told you and you tell your kids.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Lawrence of Arabia presents an interesting conundrum. Would/Should we be upset over the actor's behavior when we are not upset over the character's (based in a real man)?
    , @Desiderius
    We've always got Christopher Plummer
    , @dr kill
    Our Christmas film fare is the original Die Hard. I bet that Elliott guy showed his dick to a few underage kids. His role was written for Anthony Weiner.
  11. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    Black men prefer very large asses. Rather than discretely grabbing, a man sort of has to wrap his entire being around one of those things. Therefore, black men just proceed directly to rape.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    Known as Steatopygia
  12. Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    great in bed.
    we alphas can do anything we want and when we are done they all still hope (for decades) we might cal we might love them a little we might be pretending to not remember their name as a sort of tease flirt.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yeah, the Madonna affair ended up embarrassing Beatty and he decided to finally settle down. Beatty came off as sad and more than a bit disgusted with himself.

    His peak ladies man days were by then over a decade behind him. His affair with Madonna came off as a cynical publicity stunt where both were using each other. Madonna was attempting to launch her film career. Beatty was trying to revive his with Dick Tracy.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar. What I recall of Beatty back then was that his womanizing, very left-wing politics, and film career had become a brutal joke with the late night comedians.

    The man married at 54 and for the last 25 years there have been no stories of him sleeping around. He and Annette Bening have raised 4 kids. Since that time Beatty has give few interviews and kept a low profile.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Beatty's oldest child and daughter is transsexual. At 80, Beatty has enough heartache in his life.

    Beatty made a movie last year that panned by critics for being old fashioned and it bombed big time. Beatty is effectively retired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_Don%27t_Apply

    Unless he did something wrong in the last 20 years, leave him be.
    , @anonguy

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    .

    This goes back to only skeevy guys get caught up in this. All Warren's old loves remember him fondly.

    Most guys don't do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status. It is kind of the narrative that all guys are prone to doing this, but they aren't, it is only just some guys and the less attractive ones.
    , @Alden
    here's a joke about Beatty when he was younger.

    Starlet to her friend I slept with Warren Beatty!!!!!

    Friend Hasn't everyone?

    Beatty's so old no one under 60 has heard of him.
  13. What Hope Solo alleges– like many other such claims being breathlessly reported in recent weeks (e.g., Kevin Spacey’s drunken dalliance with a 14-year-old friend)– is not sexual harassment:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+harassment

    More generally:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Harassment

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Battery?
    , @El Dato
    Your Newleft Newspeak Dictionary needs updating!

    In the RT opinion pages:

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/409199-sexual-harassment-misconduct-flirtation/

    It is undeniably a great thing that abusers like Harvey Weinstein are finally receiving their comeuppance, however overdue it may be. But in the aftermath of Weinstein’s downfall, we’re at risk of broadening the definition of sexual harassment too widely.

    There is a vast difference between genuine sexual harassment, abuse or rape — and minor misconduct, flirting or otherwise inappropriate behavior in the workplace (or anywhere else). Yet, in recent weeks, the two have been dangerously conflated.
     
  14. Hope Solo married psychotic Seattle Seahawk Jeremy Stephens. She’s also been arrested for attacking family members.

    She’s a terrible person. Not quite reprllent but close….

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    No, she is reprllent. She also hasn't been in the news of late, especially since she was suspended last yr by US Women's soccer association whatever its called. Basically she's in semi-retirement mode. And a few yrs back was one of the more famous members of the infamous frapping which included such celebs as Justin Verlander's new bride, and Jennifer Lawrence.

    Her domestic violence trial was dismissed, then it was reinstated, then just sort of went the way of....? Where is it?

    No taste, no class, no hope.
  15. A wave of hysteria is sweeping the United Kingdom. Michael fallon, a warmongering Russophobic Defence Secretary was sacked becuase he touched a woman’s knee fifteen years ago and subsequently apologised (15 years ago). Another Tory MP, Charlie Elphick, has been suspended from the Conservative Party because of serious allegations, supposedly reported to the police, but which nobody has told Mr Elphick about.

    On the other side of the political spectrum Kelvin Hopkins, a Labour MP, has been suspended by the Labour party, and one of his accusers is a fellow MP, 52-year old Kerry McCarthy who says she has had to put up with 23 years of “unwanted attention” ever since she was an MP of just . . . 29 years old! The letters don’t show anything lewd but rather a man besotted with a younger woman with whom he worked apaprently well for nearly a quarter of a century. Why couldn’t she have told him to f*** off? No, that would not have provided the opportunity of humiliating the old guy by publishing everything on the internet so as to jump on the “wimmin as victims” bandwagon.

    The most tragic event of the week concerned a Welsh Labour politician, Carl Sargant, dismissed from the Welsh Government and suspended from the Welsh Labour party as a result of unknown accusations by unknown accusers. Mr Sargant’s solicitors tried in vain to find out what the allegations were. Mr Sargant, unable to defend himself and no doubt in despair at career destroying innuendo, committed suicide.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    How can unknown accusations by unidentified accusers even remotely harm someone's career? How bizarre.
  16. @D. K.
    What Hope Solo alleges-- like many other such claims being breathlessly reported in recent weeks (e.g., Kevin Spacey's drunken dalliance with a 14-year-old friend)-- is not sexual harassment:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+harassment

    More generally:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Harassment

    Battery?

    • Replies: @D. K.
    It is clearly that, as both a crime and a tort. The term "sexual harassment" has legal definitions (varying by jurisdiction, but primarily as used in federal employment-law contexts), and journalists evince no interest whatsoever in acknowledging that fact, let alone informing their readers of it.
  17. • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Hair raising.

    What the hell is that site?
    , @anon

    It was just past the mid 80's when a producer came up with the idea of a tween show that not only would feature a rotating cast of extras, but would make the studio a bunch of money because they would film quickly and not hire any adults.
     
    I know this isn't the show the guy is talking about, but it made me think of the old Canadian kids' show "You Can't Do That On Television".

    It's a weird show to look back on now, as a lot of jokes wouldn't really fly today. For example, every show featured a gag about a kid being executed by firing squad.

    There was one adult man who played all the adult male parts, and one of his recurring roles was named Senator Lance Prevert.

    He wasn't ever portrayed as a perv, really. Just a sloppy, bumbling drunk. But why would you give him that name?

    Anyway. Alanis Morrissette was on that show as a kid, so maybe that's why she turned out so bitter. Who knows?
  18. I suppose EVERY straight man has a few failed attempts at seduction. Its only if you become well known or wealthy that those failed attempts acquire ‘value’ to the target or your enemies. A Rose McGowan or Ashley Judd is not going to remember every man who ever leered at her or made a crude come on. In fact, they would be far more concerned if men stopped oogling or making passes at them.

    • Replies: @Forbes

    A Rose McGowan or Ashley Judd is not going to remember every man who ever leered at her or made a crude come on. In fact, they would be far more concerned if men stopped oogling or making passes at them.
     
    Yes, precisely the problem. And they noticed. Because we noticed they're past their prime.
  19. @D. K.
    What Hope Solo alleges-- like many other such claims being breathlessly reported in recent weeks (e.g., Kevin Spacey's drunken dalliance with a 14-year-old friend)-- is not sexual harassment:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+harassment

    More generally:

    https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Harassment

    Your Newleft Newspeak Dictionary needs updating!

    In the RT opinion pages:

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/409199-sexual-harassment-misconduct-flirtation/

    It is undeniably a great thing that abusers like Harvey Weinstein are finally receiving their comeuppance, however overdue it may be. But in the aftermath of Weinstein’s downfall, we’re at risk of broadening the definition of sexual harassment too widely.

    There is a vast difference between genuine sexual harassment, abuse or rape — and minor misconduct, flirting or otherwise inappropriate behavior in the workplace (or anywhere else). Yet, in recent weeks, the two have been dangerously conflated.

  20. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    TINY! you’re back did you scream at the sky on the 8th

    • Replies: @Detective Club
    Of course not. All TD could manage to do was to let out a half-assed whimper because The Sky itself is Racist!
  21. @BB753
    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie's love interest when they first met? It's pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.

    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.

    This seems to be a modern thing.In general, genuinely good people are or eventually become happy, especially in a sympathetic milieu. Vide my relatives who grew up in the Catholic community in Colombo.

    • Replies: @bartok
    Of course browns and blacks are happy. We're talking about our peers here, high IQ people genetically prone to depression, whites jews east asians.
    , @Sean
    Happiness is contentment ('I don't want anything more") . In his The Hacking of the American Mind, Robert Lustig says it contentment is elicited by activity at a certain serotonin receptor.

    Pleasure is about dopamine-driven reward-seeking behaviour. Self made rich people are driven by the pleasure of reward, but it doesn't make them happy.

  22. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    “Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong” lololololooloolololoollolloooooooooooooooooooooooloolololololololloloololololllolololololollloollolololollolololollolololloolloolollololololollololololoolooollllooloo…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. If you cuck betas knew what we alphas did to your wives daughters girlfriends mothers and sisters- AND THEY LIKED IT.

    You want to know whats sooooooooo wroooooong ? consensual ass grabbing!

    • Replies: @Patrick Harris
    Are you and Tiny Duck working in tandem?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I think you mean post-hoc-consensual ass grabbing is "soooooooooo wrooooooong". Plain old consensual ass-grabbing is unremarkable if fun.

    After you get hitched, things are a little more boring. To make things more sooooo wrooooong, I grab my girlfriend's ass in public now. She always says "no," but I've never gotten the cold shoulder afterwards.

    I did some acquaintence-groping in junior high and high school--some accidental and some not. The results:
    1. blushing
    2. hardened nipples
    3. increased attention paid to me

    These incidents made me embarassed and confused and got filed in the "what happened there" mental folder until the Internet came along and exposed us all to red pilling, HBD, Game, etc

    The truth is all there in pre-Christian and quasi-Christian literature. King Arthur's a good guy, but his wife really likes Lancelot. I literally couldn't read anything Arthurian between puberty and being red pilled, but the world is more comfortable now.
  23. @whorefinder

    Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”
     
    Despite Beatty's legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    great in bed.
    we alphas can do anything we want and when we are done they all still hope (for decades) we might cal we might love them a little we might be pretending to not remember their name as a sort of tease flirt.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Colleen - with all this alpha talk you'll need to change your name. Colleen Pater? Female Irish ghurka???
  24. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news.

    For example: drunken dick jokes like my now-disgraced friend Roy Price made to a humorless lesbian years ago. Except apparently not.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    I believe that Hope Solo is understood to be a troubled woman. Her dignity was damaged enough by repeated leaked nude photos of her in the "Fappening" cell phone/cloud hacks.

    But, Hope Solo is probably just another woman who regrets doing things when young, dumb, horny, ambitious and naive then go on to claim sexual harassment and abuse.

    Retroactively they wished they had a caring paternal figure looking after them.
    , @Pericles
    He obviously hadn't heard the old joke.


    How many feminists do you need to change a light bulb?

    THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

     

  25. It seems women are attempting a coup against the left. Notice none of these allegations are against alphas they wanted to sleep with just the shmucks who though power was enough, well power these days comes out of the end of an app

  26. I think we should make this simple and just post a list of men who have NOT sexually harassed anyone.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    Or maybe sex is something only third-worlders do. Goodthinking people stick to masturbation so as to not offend anyone, but only if private, Louis CK.
    , @Neuday
    AMALT? God/Human Nature is clearly insufficiently Progressive.
    , @Anonymous
    Now you know why the Greek, Byzantine, Ottoman, Turkish, Arab, Chinese etc etc empires were all run by eunuchs.

    A strange exception to this 'ancient wisdom' was and is the Vatican.
    No eunuch may be Pope. In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special 'seat-less' chair, on which two 'Cardinals-of-Office' are obligated by 'manual inspection' of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify - in the original sense of the word - the holy intactedness.

    Not so much a 'Papal Bull' but a papal 'cock and ball' story.
  27. On the sexual harassment topic, my new limerick:

    They’re saying that I, Judge Roy Moore
    Once fondled the tits of some whore.
    Once-bodacious jugs
    Now droopy-ass dugs,
    I swear I won’t touch ’em no more.

    • Replies: @Whitey Whiteman III
    More than anything, this is washed up hags screaming out "I was beautiful! I was desirable! So desirable that they could not control themselves!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e1Oi7JpD10

    Well, that, and the inherent perversion of the eternal jew.

    , @Mr. Anon
    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he's finished.
  28. @whorefinder

    Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”
     
    Despite Beatty's legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    Yeah, the Madonna affair ended up embarrassing Beatty and he decided to finally settle down. Beatty came off as sad and more than a bit disgusted with himself.

    His peak ladies man days were by then over a decade behind him. His affair with Madonna came off as a cynical publicity stunt where both were using each other. Madonna was attempting to launch her film career. Beatty was trying to revive his with Dick Tracy.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar. What I recall of Beatty back then was that his womanizing, very left-wing politics, and film career had become a brutal joke with the late night comedians.

    The man married at 54 and for the last 25 years there have been no stories of him sleeping around. He and Annette Bening have raised 4 kids. Since that time Beatty has give few interviews and kept a low profile.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Beatty’s oldest child and daughter is transsexual. At 80, Beatty has enough heartache in his life.

    Beatty made a movie last year that panned by critics for being old fashioned and it bombed big time. Beatty is effectively retired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_Don%27t_Apply

    Unless he did something wrong in the last 20 years, leave him be.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar.
     
    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, no, Beatty also made the disastrous flop Reds (1981). It was a major flopzolla, yet won Beatty the Best Director Oscar.

    For a leading man, that dude has the weirdest looking ears ever.


    "Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???
    "

    Yes, of course. It's called nostalgia, where've you been? Especially now since Hef just recently passed. That's a bygone era in Americana, when the sexual revolution was in its early heady days. You could have lots of Alisters whom you'd never expect would be at the place make surprise cameo appearances at the Mansion. What fun it would be to see on screen.

    But he still has weird looking ears.

    , @Nico

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???
     
    One would like to think no. However, I don't think the witch hunters are likely to think that far. They certainly might go ahead and try, but that could well be the step too far that backfires.
  29. Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.

    Considering the fate of many a male college student in the past five years in “he said/she said” cases amidst the uproar over “campus rape culture,” I wouldn’t have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.

    No matter what Jackie said, we should generally believe rape claims

    … The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook. In the case of Bill Cosby, we might have to stop watching his shows, consuming his books or buying tickets to his traveling stand-up routine. But false accusations are exceedingly rare, and errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly…

    • Replies: @Jack D

    The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook.
     
    He might become despondent and kill himself. However, his soul can rest assured that he will be posthumously rehabilitated if later on definitive proof can be established that he was not guilty.

    Seriously, this was a sort of Obama administration trial balloon from 2014. Even then it went over like a lead balloon, even with the WashPo crowd. Now under Trump and DeVos this guilty until proven innocent stuff is being pushed back in academia. The recent celebrity hysteria may be an attempt by the left to open a new front now that "progress" on the academic front is effectively blocked. Or maybe Bob Weinstein was just trying to take down Harvey and all the rest is collateral damage.
    , @El Dato
    The original title of this crazy corner story was "no-matter-what-jackie-said-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims" if we trust the URL.

    This is on the "holy shit what" level.

    (It doesn’t help that 400,000 untested rape kits are sitting on warehouse shelves collecting dust.)
     
    These must be the kits that were scheduled to be dropped over Lybia during the viagra-fuelled Ghaddafi rape raids.

    Zerlina Maxwell, is a political analyst, speaker, writer, and J.D. She typically writes about national politics and cultural issues, including domestic violence, sexual assault, and gender inequality.

     

    This is a Juris Doctor?
    , @Olorin

    I wouldn’t have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.
     
    Precisely this. If anything it's a road map to lucrative vulnerabilities in the weaponized war of the sexes.

    After DJT's inauguration, millions of women took to the streets to inform the world that using their sex organs to get power was their modus operandi.

    A modest woman of my acquaintance pronounced it prostitution with a postmodern currency: attention that mints political influence and therefore government/state gibs. These women are not ending prostitution, they're redefining the conditions of the transaction with themselves as the victors.

    (Who is egging them on to act this way is a separate issue and one I hope that dissident righties can start considering sooner rather than later.)
  30. It’s sad the way they’re picking on old George H. W. Bush. But hey y’all, he’s a member of The Greatest Generation, and I’m sure he’ll just grit his teeth and bear it.

    Well anyway, he’ll grit his teeth.

    • Replies: @BB753
    His teeth are fake. No teeth-grinding, sorry.
    , @Anonymous
    An 'ass-man' one and all.

    A total ass in office, and an old goat fixated with ass in dotage.
  31. @slumber_j

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news.
     
    For example: drunken dick jokes like my now-disgraced friend Roy Price made to a humorless lesbian years ago. Except apparently not.

    I believe that Hope Solo is understood to be a troubled woman. Her dignity was damaged enough by repeated leaked nude photos of her in the “Fappening” cell phone/cloud hacks.

    But, Hope Solo is probably just another woman who regrets doing things when young, dumb, horny, ambitious and naive then go on to claim sexual harassment and abuse.

    Retroactively they wished they had a caring paternal figure looking after them.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    As an unlicensed psychiatrist, I diagnose Solo with Histrionic Personality Disorder. When she can't get 'good' attention, she will settle for 'bad' attention. Sad. As an unlicensed physician,
    photographic evidence shows an anabolic steroid abuser . Could explain some outburst behavior.
  32. See, now that’s what I’ve been saying about soccer. The game sucks because you can’t use your hands for anything. I guess Mr. Blatter would agree with me, even being president of FIFA. If a ball’s coming at you, you damn well ought to be able to catch it, and if you see an ass like that, well, you damn well ought to be able to squeeze it. Right?

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    This would be funnier if she wasn't a goalie.
    , @John Cunningham
    Frank DeFord was once asked by a BBC reporter why soccer had such minimal appeal in the US, unlike the rest of the world. DeFord replied, "It's obvious, Tom. In America we love sports like football, baseball, and basketball, which all involve the use of the hands. Remember, use of the hands is what separates man from the beasts of the field."
  33. @anonymous
    Battery?

    It is clearly that, as both a crime and a tort. The term “sexual harassment” has legal definitions (varying by jurisdiction, but primarily as used in federal employment-law contexts), and journalists evince no interest whatsoever in acknowledging that fact, let alone informing their readers of it.

    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Nico
    Journalists' refusal to inform themselves or their readers of the actual definitions of harassment, assault and consent is arguably gross negligence on their part. However, because most of the people they discuss are well-known, and because in the United States public figures must prove not mere negligence but either actual malice or "reckless disregard for the truth" to recover damages for calumny, they will never be held accountable. The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.
    , @Forbes
    It's all about The Narrative, inconvenient facts will be ignored.
  34. So far no #MeToo for Roy Moore and Blatter. If they actually did anything maybe they got the message and stopped? It is possible the accusations were bogus to start with, made in hopes of triggering an avalanche of real Me Toos.

    Funny you should mention Warren Beatty. Diane Keaton is romantically linked with older men who actually cast her in major movies. But those were just you know like office romances or something.

    See: Woody Allen and Warren Beatty
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Keaton#Relationships_and_family

    • Replies: @anonguy

    It is possible the accusations were bogus to start with, made in hopes of triggering an avalanche of real Me Toos.
     
    Definitely.
  35. Good gravy! Look at the shoulders on that “woman”!

  36. @the one they call Desanex
    It’s sad the way they’re picking on old George H. W. Bush. But hey y’all, he’s a member of The Greatest Generation, and I’m sure he’ll just grit his teeth and bear it.

    Well anyway, he’ll grit his teeth.

    His teeth are fake. No teeth-grinding, sorry.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    They don’t look fake to me: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3066072/images/o-GEORGE-HW-BUSH-facebook.jpg
  37. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yeah, the Madonna affair ended up embarrassing Beatty and he decided to finally settle down. Beatty came off as sad and more than a bit disgusted with himself.

    His peak ladies man days were by then over a decade behind him. His affair with Madonna came off as a cynical publicity stunt where both were using each other. Madonna was attempting to launch her film career. Beatty was trying to revive his with Dick Tracy.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar. What I recall of Beatty back then was that his womanizing, very left-wing politics, and film career had become a brutal joke with the late night comedians.

    The man married at 54 and for the last 25 years there have been no stories of him sleeping around. He and Annette Bening have raised 4 kids. Since that time Beatty has give few interviews and kept a low profile.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Beatty's oldest child and daughter is transsexual. At 80, Beatty has enough heartache in his life.

    Beatty made a movie last year that panned by critics for being old fashioned and it bombed big time. Beatty is effectively retired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_Don%27t_Apply

    Unless he did something wrong in the last 20 years, leave him be.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar.

    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    You are right but the rest of eighties were a bust for Beatty. Reds after a just a few years did not age well. In fact it became sort of an embarrassment for Beatty as Americans embraced Reagan and the cold war ran down. So by the late eighties the plot of Ishtar involving Cold War politics was really dated.

    The in the late eights Beatty's name came up as a womanizing buddy of Sen. Gary Hart
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.
     
    I remember the move. It was like the curate's egg-good in parts.

    It was moderately financially successful for a big budget movie. I don't know why Beatty won the Oscar for best director. Apparently some of the scenes were shot dozens of times before he was satisfied, the filming went on overlong, was extremely expensive as there was filming in five different countries, and he was involved in a personal relationship with one of the leading ladies during the course of the filming. Also I really don't see how you can star in a movie and direct it at the same time. If this was an Oscar winning directorial performance, why are more director Oscars not won by actor-directors?

    Of course I have always been baffled by who wins the various Oscars, but of course I am no judge of movie-making skill or of acting and am not a movie-making professional and do not see movies with the same eye for details as members of the Motion Picture Academy. If I was, I guess I would favor actors who always get it right on the first take, always know their lines and which camera to look at, and so on. And if they have had sex with me, then that would get a few bonus points.

  38. @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    I suspect famous or powerful people act unhappy when stuck in conversation with someone who is of no use to them.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    This is an interesting claim which could probably be tested at least semi-empirically using the right techniques.
  39. Steve tagged this, “Late Obama Age Collapse.” Why?

  40. Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”

    The unattractiveness quotient is, naturally, being overlooked by the wailers and gnashers of teeth.

    Two things I’m relatively certain of:

    1) Ryan Gosling has also engaged in boorish, even assault-y behavior.
    2) Ryan Gosling will never be called to account for said behavior.

  41. I don’t get the ‘Late Obama Age Collapse’ tag — on the other hand…

    Soaring overdoses strain emergency crews from neighboring cities

    In 2016, Dayton Fire Department had its busiest year in five years, Payne said. Already in less than half of 2017, “we’ve surpassed that,” he said…Dayton Fire Department paramedics handle an average of 10 overdose incidents per day…RELATED: County surpasses 2016 fatal overdose total before June…

  42. OT – When the pile on gets too deep here @ isteve on unz, I simply picture Sailer as Woody Allen. After my guffaws have subsided, wait… OK. I start feeling a little guilty. Is it wrong to make Woody Allen into a caricature?

    A more relevant question: how young is too young for a dating relationship between a male over 21 and a female? I’d start the bidding at no lower than 16 if I were a man. But, then, I’m not a man.

    And would age difference enter into the decision?

    • Replies: @annnon
    a rule i've heard for socially acceptable age differences is to divide the man's age by two and add seven. works pretty well.
    , @Anonymous
    In this as in all things, there is a Bell Curve.

    A raw number is not enough, so long as both participants are adults as defined by the law.

    Sexual behavior with prepubescents is malum in se, wrong in and of itself , from natural biology. Even animals left to themselves don't do that.

    Sexual behavior with individuals biologically capable of response (the old 'old enough to bleed old enough to breed') but under the legal age of consent is malum prohibitum, validly wrong because against legitimate law, because the state has a reasonable compelling interest in setting an age under which persons are treated as under the valid age of consent.

    Within those parameters, I would state that we need to look at a number of things.

    One very famous marriage is interesting. Consider the 21 year old man who married a 16 year old woman largely to keep her from having to go back to an orphanage until she was 18. It was a consensual thing, but there was a power differential. Legally, he was an adult and she was in most respects a child.

    When he came back from the war, she divorced him. He became a cop. She became Marilyn Monroe.

    Was the relationship wrong and why or why not?

    What about rich cougars that not only hook up with but marry young men, who have no money and little way to earn more than a minimum wage income on their own? It happens. I remember one of goody-goody Barbara Mandrell's sisters married a military school cadet.
  43. @Jack D
    I think we should make this simple and just post a list of men who have NOT sexually harassed anyone.

    Or maybe sex is something only third-worlders do. Goodthinking people stick to masturbation so as to not offend anyone, but only if private, Louis CK.

  44. @Jack D
    I think we should make this simple and just post a list of men who have NOT sexually harassed anyone.

    AMALT? God/Human Nature is clearly insufficiently Progressive.

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In these end of times, the epic cosmic battle between the votaries of the Yoni and Lingam is finally ‘coming to a finish’.
    The Yoni has emerged into the new era triumphant, and has exulted that victory, pushing down the Lingam further and further until it can rise no more.

    The Lingamites might ask themselves ‘how did it ever come to this? , we had all the power by right’.

    ‘JFK and “civil rights” , I reply weakly.*

    The three ages of man – Tri-weekly, try weekly, try weakly.

  46. @the one they call Desanex
    It’s sad the way they’re picking on old George H. W. Bush. But hey y’all, he’s a member of The Greatest Generation, and I’m sure he’ll just grit his teeth and bear it.

    Well anyway, he’ll grit his teeth.

    An ‘ass-man’ one and all.

    A total ass in office, and an old goat fixated with ass in dotage.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    This puts a whole new spin on the Bush clan's obsession with Latin America!
  47. I had never previously noticed that she looked like a tranny Olivia Munn

    Ratner would love that.

  48. @Colleen Pater
    great in bed.
    we alphas can do anything we want and when we are done they all still hope (for decades) we might cal we might love them a little we might be pretending to not remember their name as a sort of tease flirt.

    Colleen – with all this alpha talk you’ll need to change your name. Colleen Pater? Female Irish ghurka???

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    latin lass
  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I think we should make this simple and just post a list of men who have NOT sexually harassed anyone.

    Now you know why the Greek, Byzantine, Ottoman, Turkish, Arab, Chinese etc etc empires were all run by eunuchs.

    A strange exception to this ‘ancient wisdom’ was and is the Vatican.
    No eunuch may be Pope. In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special ‘seat-less’ chair, on which two ‘Cardinals-of-Office’ are obligated by ‘manual inspection’ of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify – in the original sense of the word – the holy intactedness.

    Not so much a ‘Papal Bull’ but a papal ‘cock and ball’ story.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Of course, because of some rather profound evo-devo HBD reasons, all of these 'eunuch-run' empires were, essentially, led by one single male with damn nigh 'infinite' sexual access to the pick of the empire's sexually attractive nubile women.
    For the pleasure of the not-so impotent potentate, the women, concubines, wives, what-have-you, were generally housed within the palace precincts - from whence the empire was run - in their own quarters, the 'harem' of myth and legend.

    Considering the combination of the over-sated emperor, the throng of peak-nubile, competitive young women and exclusivity of the premises, the rationale for castration of court officialdom becomes evident. Rather like the drones of the bee-hive.

    On another note, that distinguished Oxford anthropologist Desmond Morris has described the famed Turkish 'belly-dance' of the harem as 'fertile masturbation', the reason being that the dance more or less mimics the sexual movements necessary to induce a response from a typically jaded, over-sated, torpid, bloated, debauched impotent Sultan.
    , @for-the-record
    In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special ‘seat-less’ chair, on which two ‘Cardinals-of-Office’ are obligated by ‘manual inspection’ of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify – in the original sense of the word – the holy intactedness.

    Urban legend, it would seem, at least according to Wikipedia:

    As a consequence, certain traditions stated that popes throughout the medieval period were required to undergo a procedure wherein they sat on a special chair with a hole in the seat. A cardinal would have the task of putting his hand up the hole to check whether the pope had testicles, or doing a visual examination.[citation needed] This procedure is not taken seriously by most historians, and there is no documented instance. It is probably a scurrilous legend based on the existence of two ancient stone chairs with holes in the seats that probably dated from Roman times and may have been used because of their ancient imperial origins. Their original purpose is obscure.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_surrounding_the_papacy
     
  50. @tyrone
    TINY! you're back did you scream at the sky on the 8th

    Of course not. All TD could manage to do was to let out a half-assed whimper because The Sky itself is Racist!

  51. @the one they call Desanex
    On the sexual harassment topic, my new limerick:

    They’re saying that I, Judge Roy Moore
    Once fondled the tits of some whore.
    Once-bodacious jugs
    Now droopy-ass dugs,
    I swear I won’t touch ’em no more.

    More than anything, this is washed up hags screaming out “I was beautiful! I was desirable! So desirable that they could not control themselves!”

    Well, that, and the inherent perversion of the eternal jew.

  52. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    Seriously. An ESPN headline screams “sexual assault” and then the first three sentences mention the conduct with increasing specificity.

    1. “Sexually assaulted her”
    2. “Groped her”
    3. Gets around to quoting her: “I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass”

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/21366266/hope-solo-says-ex-fifa-president-sepp-blatter-sexually-assaulted-her

  53. Blair Age Collapse

    • Replies: @anonguy
    Is there a palpable fin de siecle feeling in all this? Millenial and all, in the earlier sense of the word?
  54. George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.

    • Replies: @anonguy

    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.
     
    Back in pre-Tailhook days, the side benefit of any government service overseas, whether military or civilian, was a lot of unrestricted boozing and whoring.

    There is still a little bit of this, the Secret Service gets pinged on for incidents, but back in the day, it was pervasive. Olongapo had 15,000 or something bar girls in the 80s. Imagine the Navy cooperating to make this film today, much less what they were doing for the sex trade outside the gates, legitimizing the whole thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghjm1nKixw

    God, I miss the Cold War

    , @Chrisnonymous
    We elected to the post of "Modern Khan" a man who was married to a matronly, unattractive, sexless woman.

    Twice. Strange times.

    If Clinton and Bush strayed a few times, who can blame them? How would you like to be the most powerful man in the world and have to sleep with some who looks and acts like your grandmother?
  55. @Nico

    Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.
     
    Considering the fate of many a male college student in the past five years in "he said/she said" cases amidst the uproar over "campus rape culture," I wouldn't have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.

    No matter what Jackie said, we should generally believe rape claims

    ... The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook. In the case of Bill Cosby, we might have to stop watching his shows, consuming his books or buying tickets to his traveling stand-up routine. But false accusations are exceedingly rare, and errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly...
     

    The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook.

    He might become despondent and kill himself. However, his soul can rest assured that he will be posthumously rehabilitated if later on definitive proof can be established that he was not guilty.

    Seriously, this was a sort of Obama administration trial balloon from 2014. Even then it went over like a lead balloon, even with the WashPo crowd. Now under Trump and DeVos this guilty until proven innocent stuff is being pushed back in academia. The recent celebrity hysteria may be an attempt by the left to open a new front now that “progress” on the academic front is effectively blocked. Or maybe Bob Weinstein was just trying to take down Harvey and all the rest is collateral damage.

    • Replies: @Nico

    Seriously, this was a sort of Obama administration trial balloon from 2014. Even then it went over like a lead balloon, even with the WashPo crowd.
     
    It is still an important cultural gauge that an article like this could be written by a professor at a major law school and appear in a major national AP-correspondent newspaper. It's a gauge of the cultural mentality that fed into the Holder and Lynch justice department, and of the spirit that reigned there.

    And it's only the most extreme example. If it managed to shock even an on-average fairly liberal reading public then, I can assure you that the sorts of things I see liberal female lawyers in my network trotting out in reaction to sexual misconduct allegations are very much of the same vein.

    Now under Trump and DeVos this guilty until proven innocent stuff is being pushed back in academia.
     
    Has it?? How?? Where?? Whom??
  56. Errol Flynn’s body lies a-moldering in the grave . . .

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Speaking of bad timing......

    Oh my is this film going to bomb!!!

    Not exactly a "Date" movie is it?

    I think Errol Flynn was known for the line.

    Reporter: "Say Errol, what is your favorite type of girl".....

    Errol: "My next one"....

    Errol Flynn is a textbook example of Coolidge Effect

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

    In biology and psychology, the Coolidge effect is a phenomenon seen in animal species whereby males (and to a lesser extent females) exhibit renewed sexual interest if introduced to new receptive sexual partners, even after cessation of sex with prior but still available sexual partners.[1][2][3][4] This effect can be attributed to an increase in sexual responsiveness, and a decrease in refractory period.[5] The evolutionary benefit to this phenomenon is that a male can fertilize multiple females.[6] The male may be reinvigorated repeatedly for successful insemination of multiple females.[7] This type of mating system can be referred to as polygyny, where one male has multiple female mates, but each female only mates with one or a few male mates.
     
  57. I’m getting bored with all this ass grabbing news. My guess is that there once was a sub-species of human that was ever so polite and decorous about sex. They all died out millennia ago.

  58. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    “Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn’t bother to tell anybody.”

    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn’t think so.

    • Replies: @Dahlia

    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn’t think so.
     
    I did this a time or two in high school without consent. Sometimes just ran up and slapped, too.
    I laughed. My friends laughed. The guy laughed. It all seemed like fun and games, but now I know The Truth.
    On behalf of those girls/women, please accept my apologies.
  59. @BB753
    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-molesters-killed-her.html

    Hair raising.

    What the hell is that site?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Something out of a Lynch Movie?

    Some corroborating evidence would be fine...
    , @BB753
    It's the most cited website for insider Hollywood gossip. Many of the rumors they mention end up being mainstream headlines.
  60. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo’s ass?

    Is that a serious question?

    If even half of Amy Schumer’s stories about her sex life are true, I’d say that lots of men would.

    Actually, I didn’t even know who Hope Solo was, so I looked up some pictures of her. I’m not saying I’d just grab her ass randomly, but if there was some type of scale that judged women by the number of beers it took before you DID do that…

    Well, maybe I should just stop there. Fitness is pretty attractive, really.

  61. @Buzz Mohawk
    Black men prefer very large asses. Rather than discretely grabbing, a man sort of has to wrap his entire being around one of those things. Therefore, black men just proceed directly to rape.

    Known as Steatopygia

  62. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.

    If you ask a feminist, though, there’s nothing unfair about persecuting no-more-guilty-than-average men. And, sadly, we’ve allowed feminism to fester for far too long.

    A lot of this, though, is going to turn out just to be women using these accusations to settle scores over any kind of slight they can think of.

    In keeping with iSteve’s running Seinfeld theme, what it seems like we’re going through is an Airing of Grievances.

  63. What began as a legitimate investigation of Satan’s servants soon degenerated into a witch hunt.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Dissident right political watchers might conclude this was intentional. Also diversionary.
  64. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-molesters-killed-her.html

    It was just past the mid 80’s when a producer came up with the idea of a tween show that not only would feature a rotating cast of extras, but would make the studio a bunch of money because they would film quickly and not hire any adults.

    I know this isn’t the show the guy is talking about, but it made me think of the old Canadian kids’ show “You Can’t Do That On Television”.

    It’s a weird show to look back on now, as a lot of jokes wouldn’t really fly today. For example, every show featured a gag about a kid being executed by firing squad.

    There was one adult man who played all the adult male parts, and one of his recurring roles was named Senator Lance Prevert.

    He wasn’t ever portrayed as a perv, really. Just a sloppy, bumbling drunk. But why would you give him that name?

    Anyway. Alanis Morrissette was on that show as a kid, so maybe that’s why she turned out so bitter. Who knows?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    "Senator Prevert" made it to the White House:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX_oKpey-YI
    , @ScarletNumber
    Nobody remembers Alanis Morrissette from You Can’t Do That On Television. She was in 5 episodes well after the show passed its peak.
    , @BB753
    No, she's bitter because of some hockey player or that guy from Full House. You ought to know!
  65. @slumber_j

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news.
     
    For example: drunken dick jokes like my now-disgraced friend Roy Price made to a humorless lesbian years ago. Except apparently not.

    He obviously hadn’t heard the old joke.

    How many feminists do you need to change a light bulb?

    THAT’S NOT FUNNY!

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    I bet he was familiar with that joke actually...although now I guess I'm the one being humorless.

    Anyway, I'm told that what was really going on that night was that everyone had had too much to drink, and that they were throwing out prospective names for internet dating sites that would be more honest and effective than eHarmony or whatever. Which suddenly makes what he said to the woman in question actually make sense--unlike the claim that he was uttering those things in order to proposition her.

    And I suspect that what really happened in a larger sense was that someone wanted to lash him to the corpse of Harvey Weinstein. It seems to have worked.

  66. How about George Takei? Did you see that one coming?

    It’s delicious. Who doesn’t love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning?

    Hollywood has finally found a way to entertain us in The Current Year.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    The Takei story is a joke: multiple dates at different venues before going back to his place, then some drinking, probable drug use, and groping. By 1981 gay standards that's a freaking engagement, not sexual misconduct.
  67. @Danindc
    Hope Solo married psychotic Seattle Seahawk Jeremy Stephens. She's also been arrested for attacking family members.

    She's a terrible person. Not quite reprllent but close....

    No, she is reprllent. She also hasn’t been in the news of late, especially since she was suspended last yr by US Women’s soccer association whatever its called. Basically she’s in semi-retirement mode. And a few yrs back was one of the more famous members of the infamous frapping which included such celebs as Justin Verlander’s new bride, and Jennifer Lawrence.

    Her domestic violence trial was dismissed, then it was reinstated, then just sort of went the way of….? Where is it?

    No taste, no class, no hope.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    What is this infamous frapping of which you speak?
  68. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yeah, the Madonna affair ended up embarrassing Beatty and he decided to finally settle down. Beatty came off as sad and more than a bit disgusted with himself.

    His peak ladies man days were by then over a decade behind him. His affair with Madonna came off as a cynical publicity stunt where both were using each other. Madonna was attempting to launch her film career. Beatty was trying to revive his with Dick Tracy.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar. What I recall of Beatty back then was that his womanizing, very left-wing politics, and film career had become a brutal joke with the late night comedians.

    The man married at 54 and for the last 25 years there have been no stories of him sleeping around. He and Annette Bening have raised 4 kids. Since that time Beatty has give few interviews and kept a low profile.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Beatty's oldest child and daughter is transsexual. At 80, Beatty has enough heartache in his life.

    Beatty made a movie last year that panned by critics for being old fashioned and it bombed big time. Beatty is effectively retired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_Don%27t_Apply

    Unless he did something wrong in the last 20 years, leave him be.

    Uh, no, Beatty also made the disastrous flop Reds (1981). It was a major flopzolla, yet won Beatty the Best Director Oscar.

    For a leading man, that dude has the weirdest looking ears ever.

    “Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Yes, of course. It’s called nostalgia, where’ve you been? Especially now since Hef just recently passed. That’s a bygone era in Americana, when the sexual revolution was in its early heady days. You could have lots of Alisters whom you’d never expect would be at the place make surprise cameo appearances at the Mansion. What fun it would be to see on screen.

    But he still has weird looking ears.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    Uh, no, Beatty also made the disastrous flop Reds (1981). It was a major flopzolla, yet won Beatty the Best Director Oscar.
     

    Budget $32 million
    Box office $40.4 million[2]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds_(film)#Reception

    Released on December 4, 1981, Reds opened to critical acclaim upon its release. Despite its political subject matter and limited promotion by Beatty, the film became the thirteenth highest grossing picture of 1981, grossing $40,000,000 in the United States.[2] Beatty later remarked that the film "made a little money" in box office returns.
     
    Given all the talent involved and the Oscar hype I would say that Reds was a financial disappoint at the least.

    But Hollywood loved it as a slap at the newly elected Reagan.

  69. Dear Leader says many of these accussed have one thing in common.
    They are,he said,jerks. Oh,that’s it. I thought maybe they had some other point of commonality…

  70. @Almost Missouri
    Hair raising.

    What the hell is that site?

    Something out of a Lynch Movie?

    Some corroborating evidence would be fine…

  71. @Anon

    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
     
    This seems to be a modern thing.In general, genuinely good people are or eventually become happy, especially in a sympathetic milieu. Vide my relatives who grew up in the Catholic community in Colombo.

    Of course browns and blacks are happy. We’re talking about our peers here, high IQ people genetically prone to depression, whites jews east asians.

    • Troll: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Olorin
    When I feel low I row for an hour.

    Always fixes it.
  72. @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    I hope to see the day when he is made really, really unhappy.

  73. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    This is true. MOC donate the sperm and then leave to give women space to raise the kids by themselves.
    And the violent raping

  74. “I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass.”

    Blatter. That is too good. It should mean ‘to grab ass’.

    She got blattered.

  75. FIFA mistake was to allow too much blowing of vuvuzellas during World Cup in South Africa. People turned off television sets or turned down volume to watch and not listen.

  76. @Almost Missouri
    Hair raising.

    What the hell is that site?

    It’s the most cited website for insider Hollywood gossip. Many of the rumors they mention end up being mainstream headlines.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Most of the substantive stuff seems to come from the host and the contributor/commenter named, "Himmmm". It seems like one of them might have some kind of lawyer-ish connection, which is a little strange since attorney-client privilege is supposed to make all these communications secret, even to the grave and beyond, but maybe the subjects were not his clients, or maybe he is more a law enforcement type, who tend to share information inside the first responder circle. For instance, the Don Henley blind seemed to have some first-hand POV from the paramedics.

    How wide do you think this readership is?
  77. OT: steve, how about a post on the first tech billionaire to admit they’re not making the world a better place–much less trying to

    https://www.axios.com/sean-parker-unloads-on-facebook-2508036343.html

    and what if the peons realize they shouldn’t like their immortal overlords?

  78. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    In a culture where dancing is public bumping-and-grinding and where feminists demand the right to go around naked shaking tits and ass, isn’t it rather disingenuous to have this panic about Evil White Men?

    Africanization of the West is making sexual proclivities a public display.

    Whoreization of the West raises girls to act like Lena Dunham.

    And yet, the all the bad guys are white males.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    It's a mystery I tells ya...
  79. Hope Solo is unafraid to get physical on and off field…She scraps with guys from time to time, so why didn’t she sock Sep right in the kisser? Scraps as in boyfriends, husband, I forget maybe it’s in her Wikipedia entry.
    ________

    Split decision? Could she take on Rhonda Rousey in her prime?

    911 Tapes From Hope Solo’s Pre-Wedding Fight – ABC News
    abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/03/911-tapes-from-hope…
    Mar 05, 2013 · Tapes of the 911 calls that led to the arrest of Jerramy Stevens, 32, husband of soccer star Hope Solo, 31, last November were released Monday. Stevens, a …

    Hope Solo: Alleged Family Fight Results In Soccer Star’s …
    https://www.inquisitr.com/1311765/hope-solo-alleged-family-fight…
    Hope Solo, goalkeeper and one of the primary faces on the U.S. women’s soccer team, has been arrested on domestic violence charges, reports CNN. The incident …
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    http://www.getnetworth.com/joseph-sepp-blatter-net-worth
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    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    And not just any guy, but a 6-6 former NFL tight end.

    Hope is wayyy out there on the hot/crazy matrix.
  80. She narrowed the angle and prevented him from getting a direct shot on goal. Later she suggested he should have been penalized for illegal use of the hands.

  81. Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    My guess is he always let the ladies off gently and nicely and showed respect. Plus was generous and showed them a good to great time while it lasted. Helped them get roles and with their career in general, because Warren Beatty knew everyone in Hollywood and could make good things happen. When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth. It was a different era with minimized kiss n tell for revenge.
    How about his girlfriend Julie Christie in her prime? Holy cow!

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth.
     
    Really? I don't think Carly Simon shares your opinion.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    I heard the women described Beatty's success was that he was really good at expressing intense interest and passion for a limited period of time, a matter of months. He would then burn himself out and most likely the female too. Then it was time for both parties to move on....

    I am sure he broke some hearts, but most of his partners knew want his modus operandi was.

    If you look at Beatty's film career he just plays a series of sexual obsessives.

    Think about Beatty's performance in Bugsy, for example..
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Did you just write "he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth"?

    No you didn't.

    No. You. Didn't.
    , @Forbes
    Wasn't Shampoo (with Julie Christie) just Beatty's bio-pic in 1975...

    From IMDB: Thirty-something George Roundy [Warren Beatty] is a Beverly Hills hairdresser, who spends as much time sleeping with his female clients as he does doing their hair. Whether they want to admit it, all the women in his life are on the most part aware that they are are not the only one with whom he is sleeping. ...
  82. Here’s the raw truth: What’s way worse than getting your rear end grabbed is being someone no one would care to grab.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    This deserves a gold frame.

    It is predictable that as Africanization and Xth wave feminism sweep through a formerly modest society, a main mode of competition among females is going to be who got sexual attention from the biggest chief.

    Oh, not that they wanted it or enjoyed it, and never mind that their accusations contain a thick layer of victimbragging to score points with one another.

    These women wanted that sexual attention, they got it, but they now are realizing it got them nowhere but an apartment and six cats (or horses, or dogs, or etc.).

    But despair not. If they are white women, they have been taught to blame the eternal scapegoat, the white guy.

    Some come by that naturally (blaming the white guy whom they chose for their own failed lives--and men do this as well).

    What these gals don't realize is that they're hanging themselves and each other on crosses. While they may make a temporary apotheosis for each other, there is no transcendence.

    Bearing in mind of course that a lot of this is an overblown mediated phenomenon as the struggling infotainment industry tries to reassert its former religio-social monopoly.
  83. Weinstein, Ratner, Seagal, some stand-up comedian, they’re no surprise. But I didn’t think anything like that of Soacey before.

    I mean, I knew he was gay and I knew he was weird. And I guess it’s relatively normal for gays to be into pubescent boys. But nothing like that ever crossed my mind.

  84. @IHTG
    “Teen Girl Posed For 8 Years As Married Man To Write About Baseball And Harass Women”: https://deadspin.com/teen-girl-posed-for-8-years-as-married-man-to-write-abo-1820305588

    And a “redpill” analysis: http://theothermccain.com/2017/11/10/the-catfish-sports-writer-ryan-schultz-is-a-lesson-in-social-media-deception/

    Had never heard of the Belgium killer freak but thanks for the link Steve. Anyway looks like the Femquisition is running on fumes

    How many more b actors from the 90s and random political or sports figures are left to Lynch by the Twitterati Lynch mob?

  85. @Jack D

    The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook.
     
    He might become despondent and kill himself. However, his soul can rest assured that he will be posthumously rehabilitated if later on definitive proof can be established that he was not guilty.

    Seriously, this was a sort of Obama administration trial balloon from 2014. Even then it went over like a lead balloon, even with the WashPo crowd. Now under Trump and DeVos this guilty until proven innocent stuff is being pushed back in academia. The recent celebrity hysteria may be an attempt by the left to open a new front now that "progress" on the academic front is effectively blocked. Or maybe Bob Weinstein was just trying to take down Harvey and all the rest is collateral damage.

    Seriously, this was a sort of Obama administration trial balloon from 2014. Even then it went over like a lead balloon, even with the WashPo crowd.

    It is still an important cultural gauge that an article like this could be written by a professor at a major law school and appear in a major national AP-correspondent newspaper. It’s a gauge of the cultural mentality that fed into the Holder and Lynch justice department, and of the spirit that reigned there.

    And it’s only the most extreme example. If it managed to shock even an on-average fairly liberal reading public then, I can assure you that the sorts of things I see liberal female lawyers in my network trotting out in reaction to sexual misconduct allegations are very much of the same vein.

    Now under Trump and DeVos this guilty until proven innocent stuff is being pushed back in academia.

    Has it?? How?? Where?? Whom??

  86. Wow, look at those shoulders! Never having heard of Hope Solo before, I looked at that picture and guessed this was going to be about World War T.

  87. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yeah, the Madonna affair ended up embarrassing Beatty and he decided to finally settle down. Beatty came off as sad and more than a bit disgusted with himself.

    His peak ladies man days were by then over a decade behind him. His affair with Madonna came off as a cynical publicity stunt where both were using each other. Madonna was attempting to launch her film career. Beatty was trying to revive his with Dick Tracy.

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar. What I recall of Beatty back then was that his womanizing, very left-wing politics, and film career had become a brutal joke with the late night comedians.

    The man married at 54 and for the last 25 years there have been no stories of him sleeping around. He and Annette Bening have raised 4 kids. Since that time Beatty has give few interviews and kept a low profile.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    Beatty's oldest child and daughter is transsexual. At 80, Beatty has enough heartache in his life.

    Beatty made a movie last year that panned by critics for being old fashioned and it bombed big time. Beatty is effectively retired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_Don%27t_Apply

    Unless he did something wrong in the last 20 years, leave him be.

    Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???

    One would like to think no. However, I don’t think the witch hunters are likely to think that far. They certainly might go ahead and try, but that could well be the step too far that backfires.

  88. @D. K.
    It is clearly that, as both a crime and a tort. The term "sexual harassment" has legal definitions (varying by jurisdiction, but primarily as used in federal employment-law contexts), and journalists evince no interest whatsoever in acknowledging that fact, let alone informing their readers of it.

    Journalists’ refusal to inform themselves or their readers of the actual definitions of harassment, assault and consent is arguably gross negligence on their part. However, because most of the people they discuss are well-known, and because in the United States public figures must prove not mere negligence but either actual malice or “reckless disregard for the truth” to recover damages for calumny, they will never be held accountable. The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.

    • Replies: @Forbes

    The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.
     
    Ironic, or not, the fortunes of the print news media business appears to reflect the lower standard to communicate the truth--with most having declined about 90% in value over the last two decades.
  89. @candid_observer
    How about George Takei? Did you see that one coming?

    It's delicious. Who doesn't love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning?

    Hollywood has finally found a way to entertain us in The Current Year.

    The Takei story is a joke: multiple dates at different venues before going back to his place, then some drinking, probable drug use, and groping. By 1981 gay standards that’s a freaking engagement, not sexual misconduct.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    smug_sulu.jpg
    , @Jack Hanson
    When you portray yourself as the conscience of Star Trek its hoist worthy.
    , @candid_observer
    Judge not, that you be not judged.

    Takei judged. He got judged right back.

    Somewhere, karma smiles.
  90. @Lugash
    The Takei story is a joke: multiple dates at different venues before going back to his place, then some drinking, probable drug use, and groping. By 1981 gay standards that's a freaking engagement, not sexual misconduct.

    smug_sulu.jpg

  91. @Barnard
    I don't think Hope Solo's character is at a level where any charge she makes should be considered gospel. Like others have said it is a minor accusation, but that doesn't mean it happened either.

    Hope might as well be wearing a big T-Shirt at her press conference with the words “#MeToo!” on it, followed by the website of her upcoming reality show.

    Fake charge.

  92. @Anon

    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
     
    This seems to be a modern thing.In general, genuinely good people are or eventually become happy, especially in a sympathetic milieu. Vide my relatives who grew up in the Catholic community in Colombo.

    Happiness is contentment (‘I don’t want anything more”) . In his The Hacking of the American Mind, Robert Lustig says it contentment is elicited by activity at a certain serotonin receptor.

    Pleasure is about dopamine-driven reward-seeking behaviour. Self made rich people are driven by the pleasure of reward, but it doesn’t make them happy.

  93. @Nico

    Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.
     
    Considering the fate of many a male college student in the past five years in "he said/she said" cases amidst the uproar over "campus rape culture," I wouldn't have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.

    No matter what Jackie said, we should generally believe rape claims

    ... The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook. In the case of Bill Cosby, we might have to stop watching his shows, consuming his books or buying tickets to his traveling stand-up routine. But false accusations are exceedingly rare, and errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly...
     

    The original title of this crazy corner story was “no-matter-what-jackie-said-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims” if we trust the URL.

    This is on the “holy shit what” level.

    (It doesn’t help that 400,000 untested rape kits are sitting on warehouse shelves collecting dust.)

    These must be the kits that were scheduled to be dropped over Lybia during the viagra-fuelled Ghaddafi rape raids.

    Zerlina Maxwell, is a political analyst, speaker, writer, and J.D. She typically writes about national politics and cultural issues, including domestic violence, sexual assault, and gender inequality.

    This is a Juris Doctor?

    • Replies: @Nico
    It was indeed originally titled, "We should automatically believe rape claims" and the title was quickly changed, but not before some Tweeters immortalized it in screen captures.
  94. @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    I’m sure Epstein is actually the life of a party. Otherwise, why would so many rich and powerful people hang out with him all the time?

    Other fun coincidences: Rose McGowan was part of The Family International, a pedophilia/prostitution cult. As were the Phoenix siblings, whose mother managed to go from fruit picker to NBC studio exec assistant.

  95. @whorefinder

    Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”
     
    Despite Beatty's legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    .

    This goes back to only skeevy guys get caught up in this. All Warren’s old loves remember him fondly.

    Most guys don’t do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status. It is kind of the narrative that all guys are prone to doing this, but they aren’t, it is only just some guys and the less attractive ones.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    Most guys don’t do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status.

    In Hollywood, most of them don't have to. Plenty of women make it clear to men like Weinstein that they're available. That's part of the reason Weinstein got so brazen and forceful; it was so common for women to offer him sex that he came to expect it, and was outraged when a woman denied him.

    Of course, the older and uglier they get, the less this goes on, but even as old and ugly as Weinstein is, he was plenty powerful, and he still got lots of free sex. Lots. The ones we're hearing about now are just the tip of the iceberg. And this goes on all over Hollywood. It always has, and it's unlikely to stop now.
    , @SteveRogers42
    "Only skeevy guys get caught up in this."

    Exactly. Remember Tom Brady's rules for avoiding a sexual harassment suit? (Now blocked on Youtube.)

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f76_1323277426
  96. Actually, the Omaha Beach scenes in Saving Private Ryan were filmed in Ireland.

  97. Steve, beware of redundancy in your writing: “already,” as in “already notorious,” is redundant

  98. @YK

    But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.
     
    Well, we're not close, but we're getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don't rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes "Jaws." When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint's tale of woe, all I'll be thinking is whether or not he's wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses...

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone's thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider "taking one for the team," in that case?

    Same goes for "Back to the Future," and... hmm.. "The Man Who Would Be King" deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    And there goes “Jaws.”

    No way. Jaws will always be a great movie. Close Encounters of the Third Kind too. And I don’t care how many weenie-waggers prove to have been involved.

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t be so quick to condemn – no man has an interest in promoting that.

    • Replies: @YK

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t be so quick to condemn – no man has an interest in promoting that.
     
    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time. Saying "I want to fuck you" to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over "the other."

    If you think it was likely she’s lying about the Richard Dreyfus Penis Experience, as if it was her desire to cast herself in that sordid, low-brow episode for the wonderful attention it would bring her so late in life, I think you need to attend Alanon meetings until you get a grip.

    Meanwhile, I’m currently watching "Curt," who is likely masturbating in the back seat of Steve's Edsel, while begging him and his sister to chase down that girl in the white Thunderbird so he can finish.

  99. @miss marple
    OT - When the pile on gets too deep here @ isteve on unz, I simply picture Sailer as Woody Allen. After my guffaws have subsided, wait... OK. I start feeling a little guilty. Is it wrong to make Woody Allen into a caricature?

    A more relevant question: how young is too young for a dating relationship between a male over 21 and a female? I'd start the bidding at no lower than 16 if I were a man. But, then, I'm not a man.

    And would age difference enter into the decision?

    a rule i’ve heard for socially acceptable age differences is to divide the man’s age by two and add seven. works pretty well.

    • Replies: @Cato
    Please... such a phallocentric version of the formula! When there are two choices one should always use the gynocentric version:
    (female age - 7)*2 = male age
  100. @anon

    It was just past the mid 80's when a producer came up with the idea of a tween show that not only would feature a rotating cast of extras, but would make the studio a bunch of money because they would film quickly and not hire any adults.
     
    I know this isn't the show the guy is talking about, but it made me think of the old Canadian kids' show "You Can't Do That On Television".

    It's a weird show to look back on now, as a lot of jokes wouldn't really fly today. For example, every show featured a gag about a kid being executed by firing squad.

    There was one adult man who played all the adult male parts, and one of his recurring roles was named Senator Lance Prevert.

    He wasn't ever portrayed as a perv, really. Just a sloppy, bumbling drunk. But why would you give him that name?

    Anyway. Alanis Morrissette was on that show as a kid, so maybe that's why she turned out so bitter. Who knows?

    “Senator Prevert” made it to the White House:

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Sep Blatter is a scoundrel of the lowest order. He has a pattern of generally loutish, jockish, conniving, promiscuous, overall sociopathic behavior that he has displayed since he was a young man. As head of FIFA, his behavior was cartoonishly corrupt, conniving and callous in his treatment of nation-members and government officials he dealt with.

    John Oliver, Englishman, on how Blatter ruined professional soccer. He talks about it for a protracted amount of time:

    https://youtu.be/qr6ar3xJL_Q

    “The Swiss lizard that ruined the sport I love…”

    • Replies: @hyperbola
    The campaign against FIFA/Blatter seems to have been another "jewish mafia" operation and it is no surprise that their media front men like Oliver were involved. Now we have not only the NBA controlled by the sect, but world football now has a jewish-banker lackey as its head.

    Infantino is great news for Israeli football, says Luzon
    https://www.thejc.com/sport/sport-news/infantino-is-great-news-for-israeli-football-says-luzon-1.60930

    FIFA boss rigs vote for Israel at last minute
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/fifa-boss-rigs-vote-israel-last-minute

    And Infantino is certainly no less corrupt than Blatter.

    FIFA head Gianni Infantino implicated in Panama Papers
    http://www.dw.com/en/fifa-head-gianni-infantino-implicated-in-panama-papers/a-19165971

    Panama Papers: New Fifa boss Gianni Infantino linked to corruption scandal
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/panama-papers-new-fifa-boss-gianni-infantino-linked-to-corruption-scandal-a6970381.html

    Next we can expect to see the destruction of international football competitions in favor of "club leagues" controlled by jews and changes in how the game is played to improve "spectacle".
    , @hyperbola
    FIFA boss rigs vote for the Nazi regime at last minute
    http://www.shoah.org.uk/tag/fifa-zionist-boss/

    Toxic Zionism poisons the beautiful game
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160801-toxic-zionism-poisons-the-beautiful-game/

    Israel/Palestine: FIFA Sponsoring Games on Seized Land | Human Rights Watch
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/25/israel/palestine-fifa-sponsoring-games-seized-land
    , @hyperbola
    Open Letter To “His Excellency” Gianni Infantino, The Incumbent President of FIFA
    http://www.hiramicbrotherhood.com/single-post/2016/09/08/Open-Letter-To-%E2%80%9CHis-Excellency%E2%80%9D-Gianni-Infantino-The-Incumbent-President-of-FIFA

    In 2006, FIFA officially announced their Say No to Racism campaign in which they released large banners before matches at the World Cup that simply said, "Say No to Racism." .....

    My taking the liberty of writing to you was prompted by Monday evening’s European Region Group G qualifying match between Italy and Israel which happens to be in the Middle East and not in Europe. FIFA’s apparent confusion over Israel’s geographical location is also shared by that other august — and equally rife with corruption and hypocrisy — footballing authority, EUFA, which for the same inexplicable reason also facilitates Israel’s participation in the European Championship.

    This made me wonder what Israel had done — apart from its usual modus operandi of blackmail, bribery, bullying, and exploitation of the Holocaust with a well organised and financed “Holocaust Industry” — to warrant being allowed participation in an international football tournament organised by FIFA which while claiming to be opposed to racism, is apparently prepared to tolerate, without the slightest compunction, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. I am sure you can understand how someone like myself — who has neither your highly intelligent and principled regard for humanity nor large amounts of money unobtrusively accumulating interest in Swiss bank accounts — is bewildered by such an obviously blatant contradiction. Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t ethnic cleansing with its crimes of genocide and mass atrocity constitute a very extreme form of racism?.....
  102. @Colleen Pater
    "Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong" lololololooloolololoollolloooooooooooooooooooooooloolololololololloloololololllolololololollloollolololollolololollolololloolloolollololololollololololoolooollllooloo.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. If you cuck betas knew what we alphas did to your wives daughters girlfriends mothers and sisters- AND THEY LIKED IT.

    You want to know whats sooooooooo wroooooong ? consensual ass grabbing!

    Are you and Tiny Duck working in tandem?

  103. @the one they call Desanex
    On the sexual harassment topic, my new limerick:

    They’re saying that I, Judge Roy Moore
    Once fondled the tits of some whore.
    Once-bodacious jugs
    Now droopy-ass dugs,
    I swear I won’t touch ’em no more.

    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he’s finished.

    • Replies: @anonguy

    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he’s finished.
     
    Is there a new standard for age difference? The old guidance used to be half your age plus seven. So when Roy Moore was 32, 23 was in zone. 32 yo dating teenagers in the 80s was creepy. Not to stereotype, but it actually sounds like something out of Alabama, an observation I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone else making anywhere else.

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one's age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?

    Who will take his place, a swamp creature? Who dug up this stuff, Hillary or eGOP?
  104. @BB753
    Very few people are happy. Rich or poor. Virtuous or degenerate.
    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie's love interest when they first met? It's pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.

    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie’s love interest when they first met? It’s pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.

    Wasn’t it Lucas who was pushing the idea of Marion being scandalously young?

    G[Lucas] — I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known
    this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.
    L[Kasdan] — And he was forty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange
    relationship.
    S[Spielberg] — She had better be older than twenty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He’s thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she
    was only twelve.

    G[Lucas] — Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting.
    Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and
    he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was
    madly in love with him and he…

    http://maddogmovies.com/almost/scripts/raidersstoryconference1978.pdf

    • Replies: @BB753
    Hard to tell. They all sound high on coke to me!
  105. @George
    So far no #MeToo for Roy Moore and Blatter. If they actually did anything maybe they got the message and stopped? It is possible the accusations were bogus to start with, made in hopes of triggering an avalanche of real Me Toos.

    Funny you should mention Warren Beatty. Diane Keaton is romantically linked with older men who actually cast her in major movies. But those were just you know like office romances or something.

    See: Woody Allen and Warren Beatty
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Keaton#Relationships_and_family

    It is possible the accusations were bogus to start with, made in hopes of triggering an avalanche of real Me Toos.

    Definitely.

  106. @ScarletNumber

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar.
     
    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.

    You are right but the rest of eighties were a bust for Beatty. Reds after a just a few years did not age well. In fact it became sort of an embarrassment for Beatty as Americans embraced Reagan and the cold war ran down. So by the late eighties the plot of Ishtar involving Cold War politics was really dated.

    The in the late eights Beatty’s name came up as a womanizing buddy of Sen. Gary Hart

  107. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    Non-consensual ass-grabbing

    Bearing in mind, of course, that the definition of “consensual” has been getting torn down as fast as historic statues and replaced with…I’m not exactly sure what. Apparently something equivalent to the 120-page pre-nup, but required every 4 seconds or so.

    https://www.thefire.org/antiochs-infamous-sexual-assault-policy/

    Woah, that was TEN YEARS AGO?

    (And Antioch is dead. So there’s that.)

    My point being that once upon a time, many “liberated” women were in fact as loose as slutwalkers and used allowance of ass-grabbage and much more as a way to distinguish themselves from more modest females in their effort to achieve career beachheads.

    Not all women in various workplaces slept their way to the top, and many had careers that suffered for it. So now it seems the more slutty ones are pretending to be them. Or something. I don’t know. All I know is that being a square and a prude socially and professionally was a very long term investment that didn’t pay the big dividends of servicing the Weinsteins in earlier years…but sure is paying off now.

  108. @YK

    But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.
     
    Well, we're not close, but we're getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don't rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes "Jaws." When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint's tale of woe, all I'll be thinking is whether or not he's wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses...

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone's thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider "taking one for the team," in that case?

    Same goes for "Back to the Future," and... hmm.. "The Man Who Would Be King" deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    consider sparing our holiday classics.

    Your holiday classics should be the stories your ancestors told your great-grandparents and they told your parents and they told you and you tell your kids.

  109. @eah
    Blair Age Collapse

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/702619765941145600

    Is there a palpable fin de siecle feeling in all this? Millenial and all, in the earlier sense of the word?

  110. @Achmed E. Newman
    See, now that's what I've been saying about soccer. The game sucks because you can't use your hands for anything. I guess Mr. Blatter would agree with me, even being president of FIFA. If a ball's coming at you, you damn well ought to be able to catch it, and if you see an ass like that, well, you damn well ought to be able to squeeze it. Right?

    This would be funnier if she wasn’t a goalie.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Ha, I didn't know that. I also didn't know (hard to tell from the one picture) that's she not really a hottie. See, I don't know because I don't watch this silly game in which you can't use your hands (and thanks for that, John Cunningham). I'll give soccer lots of credit for requiring serious aerobic fitness, but if you want that, play Ultimate Frisbee. You don't HAVE to be a pot head to enjoy it, no matter what you've heard on unz*. I really like the way those flying disks fly!

    .
    .
    .

    * from certain commenters ...
  111. @BB753
    His teeth are fake. No teeth-grinding, sorry.

    They don’t look fake to me:

    • Replies: @BB753
    Perhaps, but we're not seeing his molars. If he has any left to grind with.
  112. @bartok
    Of course browns and blacks are happy. We're talking about our peers here, high IQ people genetically prone to depression, whites jews east asians.

    When I feel low I row for an hour.

    Always fixes it.

  113. @Lugash
    The Takei story is a joke: multiple dates at different venues before going back to his place, then some drinking, probable drug use, and groping. By 1981 gay standards that's a freaking engagement, not sexual misconduct.

    When you portray yourself as the conscience of Star Trek its hoist worthy.

  114. @anon

    It was just past the mid 80's when a producer came up with the idea of a tween show that not only would feature a rotating cast of extras, but would make the studio a bunch of money because they would film quickly and not hire any adults.
     
    I know this isn't the show the guy is talking about, but it made me think of the old Canadian kids' show "You Can't Do That On Television".

    It's a weird show to look back on now, as a lot of jokes wouldn't really fly today. For example, every show featured a gag about a kid being executed by firing squad.

    There was one adult man who played all the adult male parts, and one of his recurring roles was named Senator Lance Prevert.

    He wasn't ever portrayed as a perv, really. Just a sloppy, bumbling drunk. But why would you give him that name?

    Anyway. Alanis Morrissette was on that show as a kid, so maybe that's why she turned out so bitter. Who knows?

    Nobody remembers Alanis Morrissette from You Can’t Do That On Television. She was in 5 episodes well after the show passed its peak.

    • Replies: @anon
    Nobody remembers Alanis Morrissette from You Can’t Do That On Television. She was in 5 episodes well after the show passed its peak.

    I don't deny that. But that's still plenty of time to get molested.
  115. Alex Jones has been saying for years that Hollywood is run by pedophiles. Considering his track record of being correct the last year I’m starting to give him the benefit of the doubt on the chemtrails.

    • LOL: Clyde
  116. Like this shady thot has any room to cry about unwanted contact

  117. Isn’t a blatter what was inside the balls before rubber?

  118. OT

    Eurocentric sentiments at events in Poland today are being generally criticised in the media — below is a foto of the kids chosen by the German establishment to accompany the German national football team onto the field before a recent match:

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/929454225188368384
    , @Anonymous
    The kid on the far right looks like a nazi and should be removed.
  119. @Detective Club
    Errol Flynn's body lies a-moldering in the grave . . .
    https://youtu.be/dDoLfmeVsxk

    Speaking of bad timing……

    Oh my is this film going to bomb!!!

    Not exactly a “Date” movie is it?

    I think Errol Flynn was known for the line.

    Reporter: “Say Errol, what is your favorite type of girl”…..

    Errol: “My next one”….

    Errol Flynn is a textbook example of Coolidge Effect

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

    In biology and psychology, the Coolidge effect is a phenomenon seen in animal species whereby males (and to a lesser extent females) exhibit renewed sexual interest if introduced to new receptive sexual partners, even after cessation of sex with prior but still available sexual partners.[1][2][3][4] This effect can be attributed to an increase in sexual responsiveness, and a decrease in refractory period.[5] The evolutionary benefit to this phenomenon is that a male can fertilize multiple females.[6] The male may be reinvigorated repeatedly for successful insemination of multiple females.[7] This type of mating system can be referred to as polygyny, where one male has multiple female mates, but each female only mates with one or a few male mates.

  120. @carol
    I suspect famous or powerful people act unhappy when stuck in conversation with someone who is of no use to them.

    This is an interesting claim which could probably be tested at least semi-empirically using the right techniques.

  121. On the other hand, I’m struck by what a high percentage of the names in the news so far are extremely … expected. Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Brett Ratner? Louis C.K.?

    And I’m struck by how convenient the timing of this is, considering whom the majority of both victims and perpetrators supported in the last election.

    Seth Blatter Grabbed Hope Solo’s Ass

    Who would ever stoop solo?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Who would ever stoop solo?"

    DAMN! That's the money shot comment of the year for iSteve. That was really good.

    And in soccer, you can't use your hands.

    Especially if they were trying to avoid an illegal use of the hands.

    Close, but yours is Tweet worthy. As in millions of RT's.

    Awesome, just awesome.

    , @candid_observer

    Who would ever stoop solo?
     
    A pun like that, you should talk.
    , @Forbes
    I thought it was spelled "shtup"?
  122. @Nico

    Seriously, in the midst of a giant moral panic like this, it’s worth remembering that some innocent men and many no-more-guilty-than-average men are likely to be unfairly persecuted.
     
    Considering the fate of many a male college student in the past five years in "he said/she said" cases amidst the uproar over "campus rape culture," I wouldn't have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.

    No matter what Jackie said, we should generally believe rape claims

    ... The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook. In the case of Bill Cosby, we might have to stop watching his shows, consuming his books or buying tickets to his traveling stand-up routine. But false accusations are exceedingly rare, and errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly...
     

    I wouldn’t have assumed that the THOT patrol and its White Knight lackeys would consider this drawback, if they consider it a drawback at all, any reason to proceed with prudence on their jihad.

    Precisely this. If anything it’s a road map to lucrative vulnerabilities in the weaponized war of the sexes.

    After DJT’s inauguration, millions of women took to the streets to inform the world that using their sex organs to get power was their modus operandi.

    A modest woman of my acquaintance pronounced it prostitution with a postmodern currency: attention that mints political influence and therefore government/state gibs. These women are not ending prostitution, they’re redefining the conditions of the transaction with themselves as the victors.

    (Who is egging them on to act this way is a separate issue and one I hope that dissident righties can start considering sooner rather than later.)

  123. @songbird
    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.

    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.

    Back in pre-Tailhook days, the side benefit of any government service overseas, whether military or civilian, was a lot of unrestricted boozing and whoring.

    There is still a little bit of this, the Secret Service gets pinged on for incidents, but back in the day, it was pervasive. Olongapo had 15,000 or something bar girls in the 80s. Imagine the Navy cooperating to make this film today, much less what they were doing for the sex trade outside the gates, legitimizing the whole thing.

    God, I miss the Cold War

    • Replies: @MIkey Darmody
    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?

    One time back in the '80s the Paw (we called him "the Paw") was sitting around in this bar in Olangapo with us, you know, having a few beers and whatnot, when suddenly we hear this ruckus from up front and we're all like "what the f--k?" We look up and there's this Flip pimp and he's got this thirteen-year-old whore by the hair and he was just, like, whaling on her. He's trying to do her some damage but he's about 98 pounds sopping wet and she's whaling him back. She was one of those strong street whores and she was giving him back, punch for punch, screaming, and so forth. It went on like this for a minute or two, when suddenly that whore draws back and nails him right in the eye with one of those scary Filipino fingernails, and, man, the blood went everywhere. That pimp like fell back and then reached down and pulled out a knife.
    Paw puts his beer down and walks over and grabs that pimp by his knife hand, and that pimp jerked back and turned around and said "Man, I cut you, I got a knife." Paw, man, he doesn't move, he just says "F--k you and f--k your knife" in that Minnesota accent. That pimp starts to jab at him, then Paw just reaches out and slaps him in the face. Right in the face, like you'd slap a bitch! Well, we all jump up and get ready to rock, but nobody moves, then, I sh--t you not, that little Flip falls on the floor of that bar and starts crying! Crying, like a girl! Paw reaches down, takes the knife, and walks back to the table, like nothing, picks up his San Miguel and finishes it. Man, we busted a gut laughing.
    About that time, though, that thirteen year old whore had gotten up and picked up a beer stein off the bar, one of those big, heavy glass steins. She comes over to where that pimp is crying on the floor and lifts that stein as high as she could and then busts that stein right over the top of that pimp's head.
    Bam! Blood and glass flying everywhere! That pimp went down like a column of wet s--t. The whore screaming in Tagalog, that pimp laying on the floor in his own blood, and here come the Shore Patrols.
    They ask us what happened. Paw just says "Nothin', man," and walks out of there with that pimp's knife, laughing his ass off.
    He still has that knife. True f--king story, no s--t.
     
    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/05/pawlenty-for-president.html
    , @Neoconned
    LoL there was another person on here who said the same thing the other day: "I miss the Cold War....."
    I do too.

    In the 80s there were shipyards and optics factories that employed tens of thousands where I live. Now, you gotta fight w Puerto Ricans for fast food work.....

    Maybe we should do another Cold War....
  124. @Clyde

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    My guess is he always let the ladies off gently and nicely and showed respect. Plus was generous and showed them a good to great time while it lasted. Helped them get roles and with their career in general, because Warren Beatty knew everyone in Hollywood and could make good things happen. When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth. It was a different era with minimized kiss n tell for revenge.
    How about his girlfriend Julie Christie in her prime? Holy cow!

    When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth.

    Really? I don’t think Carly Simon shares your opinion.

  125. @Tsar Nicholas
    A wave of hysteria is sweeping the United Kingdom. Michael fallon, a warmongering Russophobic Defence Secretary was sacked becuase he touched a woman's knee fifteen years ago and subsequently apologised (15 years ago). Another Tory MP, Charlie Elphick, has been suspended from the Conservative Party because of serious allegations, supposedly reported to the police, but which nobody has told Mr Elphick about.

    On the other side of the political spectrum Kelvin Hopkins, a Labour MP, has been suspended by the Labour party, and one of his accusers is a fellow MP, 52-year old Kerry McCarthy who says she has had to put up with 23 years of "unwanted attention" ever since she was an MP of just . . . 29 years old! The letters don't show anything lewd but rather a man besotted with a younger woman with whom he worked apaprently well for nearly a quarter of a century. Why couldn't she have told him to f*** off? No, that would not have provided the opportunity of humiliating the old guy by publishing everything on the internet so as to jump on the "wimmin as victims" bandwagon.

    The most tragic event of the week concerned a Welsh Labour politician, Carl Sargant, dismissed from the Welsh Government and suspended from the Welsh Labour party as a result of unknown accusations by unknown accusers. Mr Sargant's solicitors tried in vain to find out what the allegations were. Mr Sargant, unable to defend himself and no doubt in despair at career destroying innuendo, committed suicide.

    How can unknown accusations by unidentified accusers even remotely harm someone’s career? How bizarre.

  126. @gwood
    What began as a legitimate investigation of Satan's servants soon degenerated into a witch hunt.

    Dissident right political watchers might conclude this was intentional. Also diversionary.

  127. @Clyde

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    My guess is he always let the ladies off gently and nicely and showed respect. Plus was generous and showed them a good to great time while it lasted. Helped them get roles and with their career in general, because Warren Beatty knew everyone in Hollywood and could make good things happen. When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth. It was a different era with minimized kiss n tell for revenge.
    How about his girlfriend Julie Christie in her prime? Holy cow!

    I heard the women described Beatty’s success was that he was really good at expressing intense interest and passion for a limited period of time, a matter of months. He would then burn himself out and most likely the female too. Then it was time for both parties to move on….

    I am sure he broke some hearts, but most of his partners knew want his modus operandi was.

    If you look at Beatty’s film career he just plays a series of sexual obsessives.

    Think about Beatty’s performance in Bugsy, for example..

  128. In regards to mentioning Errol Flynn, Warren Beatty and even surprisingly Bob Hope.

    It would help to remind folks what inspired the naming of the term Coolidge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect#Origin_of_the_term

    Behavioral endocrinologist Frank A. Beach first mentioned the term “Coolidge effect” in publication in 1955, crediting one of his students with suggesting the term at a psychology conference.[8] He attributed the neologism to:[8]

    … an old joke about Calvin Coolidge when he was President … The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm. When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, “Dozens of times each day.” Mrs. Coolidge said, “Tell that to the President when he comes by.” Upon being told, the President asked, “Same hen every time?” The reply was, “Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time.” President: “Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge.”

    The joke appears in a 1972 book (Aggression in Man and Animals, by Roger N. Johnson, p. 94).[9]

  129. @eah
    OT

    Eurocentric sentiments at events in Poland today are being generally criticised in the media -- below is a foto of the kids chosen by the German establishment to accompany the German national football team onto the field before a recent match:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOWmzceV4AAuGjD.jpg
    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/928743102201856001
  130. @anonymous
    Here's the raw truth: What's way worse than getting your rear end grabbed is being someone no one would care to grab.

    This deserves a gold frame.

    It is predictable that as Africanization and Xth wave feminism sweep through a formerly modest society, a main mode of competition among females is going to be who got sexual attention from the biggest chief.

    Oh, not that they wanted it or enjoyed it, and never mind that their accusations contain a thick layer of victimbragging to score points with one another.

    These women wanted that sexual attention, they got it, but they now are realizing it got them nowhere but an apartment and six cats (or horses, or dogs, or etc.).

    But despair not. If they are white women, they have been taught to blame the eternal scapegoat, the white guy.

    Some come by that naturally (blaming the white guy whom they chose for their own failed lives–and men do this as well).

    What these gals don’t realize is that they’re hanging themselves and each other on crosses. While they may make a temporary apotheosis for each other, there is no transcendence.

    Bearing in mind of course that a lot of this is an overblown mediated phenomenon as the struggling infotainment industry tries to reassert its former religio-social monopoly.

  131. @Lugash
    The Takei story is a joke: multiple dates at different venues before going back to his place, then some drinking, probable drug use, and groping. By 1981 gay standards that's a freaking engagement, not sexual misconduct.

    Judge not, that you be not judged.

    Takei judged. He got judged right back.

    Somewhere, karma smiles.

  132. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    If Hope Solo is the woman in that picture, and Blatter really did grab her ass, he’s gotta be about half queer.

  133. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, no, Beatty also made the disastrous flop Reds (1981). It was a major flopzolla, yet won Beatty the Best Director Oscar.

    For a leading man, that dude has the weirdest looking ears ever.


    "Is there really a market for repeating old stories rehashing his wild ways back in the mid to late 70s hanging out at the Playboy mansion and having group sex with Hugh Hefner, the bunnies and porn performers???
    "

    Yes, of course. It's called nostalgia, where've you been? Especially now since Hef just recently passed. That's a bygone era in Americana, when the sexual revolution was in its early heady days. You could have lots of Alisters whom you'd never expect would be at the place make surprise cameo appearances at the Mansion. What fun it would be to see on screen.

    But he still has weird looking ears.

    Uh, no, Beatty also made the disastrous flop Reds (1981). It was a major flopzolla, yet won Beatty the Best Director Oscar.

    Budget $32 million
    Box office $40.4 million[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds_(film)#Reception

    Released on December 4, 1981, Reds opened to critical acclaim upon its release. Despite its political subject matter and limited promotion by Beatty, the film became the thirteenth highest grossing picture of 1981, grossing $40,000,000 in the United States.[2] Beatty later remarked that the film “made a little money” in box office returns.

    Given all the talent involved and the Oscar hype I would say that Reds was a financial disappoint at the least.

    But Hollywood loved it as a slap at the newly elected Reagan.

  134. @Clyde

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    My guess is he always let the ladies off gently and nicely and showed respect. Plus was generous and showed them a good to great time while it lasted. Helped them get roles and with their career in general, because Warren Beatty knew everyone in Hollywood and could make good things happen. When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth. It was a different era with minimized kiss n tell for revenge.
    How about his girlfriend Julie Christie in her prime? Holy cow!

    Did you just write “he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth”?

    No you didn’t.

    No. You. Didn’t.

  135. Steve,

    What “normal” man would ever even think about doing anything for or against the “manute shoulders” of Hope Sola?

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    She looks plenty attractive enough to me. I don't know what all you guys are harping about.
  136. @Reg Cæsar

    On the other hand, I’m struck by what a high percentage of the names in the news so far are extremely … expected. Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Brett Ratner? Louis C.K.?
     
    And I'm struck by how convenient the timing of this is, considering whom the majority of both victims and perpetrators supported in the last election.

    Seth Blatter Grabbed Hope Solo’s Ass
     
    Who would ever stoop solo?

    “Who would ever stoop solo?”

    DAMN! That’s the money shot comment of the year for iSteve. That was really good.

    And in soccer, you can’t use your hands.

    Especially if they were trying to avoid an illegal use of the hands.

    Close, but yours is Tweet worthy. As in millions of RT’s.

    Awesome, just awesome.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And in soccer, you can’t use your hands.
     
    But in gymnastics you can-- just ask all those girls trained by Larry Nassar.
  137. Dahlia says:

    The bourgeois feminist McResistance’s Sexual Hysteria is getting uncomfortably close to my own doorstep -Southern homeschooling culture indoctrination of girls to marry much older men!- though I’m completely unaware of this and just know a lot of people don’t think May-December marriages, like my parents’, aren’t evil and loveless.
    Preparing my statements and sewing my hairshirt soon…

    I love this by Comrade Stump:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ComradeStump1/status/923412527073112064/video/1

  138. @Buzz Mohawk
    Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong, but it is so minor and common by itself that it has to be in a lower category than some of the other acts in the news. Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn't bother to tell anybody.

    Anyway, what man would want to grab Hope Solo's ass?

    As for the elder Mr. Bush, he did in fact grab an ass or two before he became elderly. He's part of an older generation of college boys, that's all. I learned years ago from a good authority (a female friend of the family) that he really is a nice man, ass grabbing or not. This does not preclude him, however, from being involved in all kinds of nefarious deep state activities over the years.

    When I was in Middle School, ass grabbing was all the rage. I might not have liked it much but the alternative was far worse.

    I need to see if any of my former classmates are rich & famous now to cash in.

  139. This whole thing would have ended already except people want to tear down the elites. They’re hanging around to see if some of the really crazy rumours and big names get sunk. And it’s everyone not just alt-whatevers. So we’ll pretend we’re shocked about the allegations against Sepp Blatter to keep the pressure going. No doubt some of it is an attempt to muddy the waters with lesser charges, but it just makes all these guys look like creeps and make people wonder what the really bad guys are up to.

    People are aware that there is much more to uncover and that the elites in the entertainment industry want to contain this. The farther we go, the less insane the most serious allegations become and the harder it is to keep a lid on it by saying it’s nonsense.

  140. @Pericles
    He obviously hadn't heard the old joke.


    How many feminists do you need to change a light bulb?

    THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

     

    I bet he was familiar with that joke actually…although now I guess I’m the one being humorless.

    Anyway, I’m told that what was really going on that night was that everyone had had too much to drink, and that they were throwing out prospective names for internet dating sites that would be more honest and effective than eHarmony or whatever. Which suddenly makes what he said to the woman in question actually make sense–unlike the claim that he was uttering those things in order to proposition her.

    And I suspect that what really happened in a larger sense was that someone wanted to lash him to the corpse of Harvey Weinstein. It seems to have worked.

  141. @Reg Cæsar

    On the other hand, I’m struck by what a high percentage of the names in the news so far are extremely … expected. Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Brett Ratner? Louis C.K.?
     
    And I'm struck by how convenient the timing of this is, considering whom the majority of both victims and perpetrators supported in the last election.

    Seth Blatter Grabbed Hope Solo’s Ass
     
    Who would ever stoop solo?

    Who would ever stoop solo?

    A pun like that, you should talk.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Who would ever stoop solo?
     
    A pun like that, you should talk.
     
    "Blatter splatter" came to mind, too, but I had second thoughts about that one.
  142. Obviously given Blatter’s over-whelming size and age advantage there was nothing a poor little broad-shouldered, young, athletic Amazon could do. Any form of physical counter-attack would have been foolish and futile

  143. @anonguy

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    .

    This goes back to only skeevy guys get caught up in this. All Warren's old loves remember him fondly.

    Most guys don't do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status. It is kind of the narrative that all guys are prone to doing this, but they aren't, it is only just some guys and the less attractive ones.

    Most guys don’t do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status.

    In Hollywood, most of them don’t have to. Plenty of women make it clear to men like Weinstein that they’re available. That’s part of the reason Weinstein got so brazen and forceful; it was so common for women to offer him sex that he came to expect it, and was outraged when a woman denied him.

    Of course, the older and uglier they get, the less this goes on, but even as old and ugly as Weinstein is, he was plenty powerful, and he still got lots of free sex. Lots. The ones we’re hearing about now are just the tip of the iceberg. And this goes on all over Hollywood. It always has, and it’s unlikely to stop now.

  144. Dahlia says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "Gay men tried that on me twice when I was a young man, and I just laughed it off and didn’t bother to tell anybody."
     
    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn't think so.

    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn’t think so.

    I did this a time or two in high school without consent. Sometimes just ran up and slapped, too.
    I laughed. My friends laughed. The guy laughed. It all seemed like fun and games, but now I know The Truth.
    On behalf of those girls/women, please accept my apologies.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    I'm convinced women just love old men for some bizarre reason. When I was younger I loved older women. So say when I was 18 I wanted a woman say 35-45, something like that. I loved their experience. I had mixed results. Even at that old age they still prefer old farts.

    The funny thing is that as I get older it's getting easier to pick up women 10-15 yes younger than me. They eat that shit up. Not that I don't like it but it's like damn I needed that when I was younger.

    The older I get the less I worry about marriage.

    I figure the money alone much less the father fetish will guarantee me a wife....
    , @Almost Missouri
    Lol. Thanks.

    Actually, I wan't really complaining...
  145. @Danindc
    Colleen - with all this alpha talk you'll need to change your name. Colleen Pater? Female Irish ghurka???

    latin lass

  146. @anon

    It was just past the mid 80's when a producer came up with the idea of a tween show that not only would feature a rotating cast of extras, but would make the studio a bunch of money because they would film quickly and not hire any adults.
     
    I know this isn't the show the guy is talking about, but it made me think of the old Canadian kids' show "You Can't Do That On Television".

    It's a weird show to look back on now, as a lot of jokes wouldn't really fly today. For example, every show featured a gag about a kid being executed by firing squad.

    There was one adult man who played all the adult male parts, and one of his recurring roles was named Senator Lance Prevert.

    He wasn't ever portrayed as a perv, really. Just a sloppy, bumbling drunk. But why would you give him that name?

    Anyway. Alanis Morrissette was on that show as a kid, so maybe that's why she turned out so bitter. Who knows?

    No, she’s bitter because of some hockey player or that guy from Full House. You ought to know!

  147. @YK

    But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.
     
    Well, we're not close, but we're getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don't rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes "Jaws." When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint's tale of woe, all I'll be thinking is whether or not he's wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses...

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone's thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider "taking one for the team," in that case?

    Same goes for "Back to the Future," and... hmm.. "The Man Who Would Be King" deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    Lawrence of Arabia presents an interesting conundrum. Would/Should we be upset over the actor’s behavior when we are not upset over the character’s (based in a real man)?

  148. “I had Sepp Bladder grab my ass.” Or I told him I would break him in two.

  149. @IHTG
    “Teen Girl Posed For 8 Years As Married Man To Write About Baseball And Harass Women”: https://deadspin.com/teen-girl-posed-for-8-years-as-married-man-to-write-abo-1820305588

    And a “redpill” analysis: http://theothermccain.com/2017/11/10/the-catfish-sports-writer-ryan-schultz-is-a-lesson-in-social-media-deception/

    The “harass women” angle appears wrong. Women readers pursued the teen girl writer posing-as-man, who “got married” to stave off the “interested” women readers. (Which goes a long way to demonstrate that women don’t understand men. A married man is even more appealing/attractive to women suitors, as marriage serves to confirm the man’s fitness.)

  150. @Colleen Pater
    "Non-consensual ass-grabbing is of course wrong" lololololooloolololoollolloooooooooooooooooooooooloolololololololloloololololllolololololollloollolololollolololollolololloolloolollololololollololololoolooollllooloo.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. If you cuck betas knew what we alphas did to your wives daughters girlfriends mothers and sisters- AND THEY LIKED IT.

    You want to know whats sooooooooo wroooooong ? consensual ass grabbing!

    I think you mean post-hoc-consensual ass grabbing is “soooooooooo wrooooooong”. Plain old consensual ass-grabbing is unremarkable if fun.

    After you get hitched, things are a little more boring. To make things more sooooo wrooooong, I grab my girlfriend’s ass in public now. She always says “no,” but I’ve never gotten the cold shoulder afterwards.

    I did some acquaintence-groping in junior high and high school–some accidental and some not. The results:
    1. blushing
    2. hardened nipples
    3. increased attention paid to me

    These incidents made me embarassed and confused and got filed in the “what happened there” mental folder until the Internet came along and exposed us all to red pilling, HBD, Game, etc

    The truth is all there in pre-Christian and quasi-Christian literature. King Arthur’s a good guy, but his wife really likes Lancelot. I literally couldn’t read anything Arthurian between puberty and being red pilled, but the world is more comfortable now.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    no I mean getting consent destroys the fun- for me and her.whats the point of asking if you can smack her on the ass the whole point is you are taking ownership and doing what you want with her
  151. @D. K.
    It is clearly that, as both a crime and a tort. The term "sexual harassment" has legal definitions (varying by jurisdiction, but primarily as used in federal employment-law contexts), and journalists evince no interest whatsoever in acknowledging that fact, let alone informing their readers of it.

    It’s all about The Narrative, inconvenient facts will be ignored.

  152. @unit472
    I suppose EVERY straight man has a few failed attempts at seduction. Its only if you become well known or wealthy that those failed attempts acquire 'value' to the target or your enemies. A Rose McGowan or Ashley Judd is not going to remember every man who ever leered at her or made a crude come on. In fact, they would be far more concerned if men stopped oogling or making passes at them.

    A Rose McGowan or Ashley Judd is not going to remember every man who ever leered at her or made a crude come on. In fact, they would be far more concerned if men stopped oogling or making passes at them.

    Yes, precisely the problem. And they noticed. Because we noticed they’re past their prime.

  153. @songbird
    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.

    We elected to the post of “Modern Khan” a man who was married to a matronly, unattractive, sexless woman.

    Twice. Strange times.

    If Clinton and Bush strayed a few times, who can blame them? How would you like to be the most powerful man in the world and have to sleep with some who looks and acts like your grandmother?

    • Replies: @BB753
    It could be worse: you could be married to Michelle Obama!
  154. @Steve Sailer
    I know somebody who once talked to Epstein for a couple of hours.

    He said Epstein struck him as an unhappy man.

    He had probably just come from a tiring meeting with his Mossad handlers.

  155. @Anon
    In a culture where dancing is public bumping-and-grinding and where feminists demand the right to go around naked shaking tits and ass, isn't it rather disingenuous to have this panic about Evil White Men?

    Africanization of the West is making sexual proclivities a public display.

    Whoreization of the West raises girls to act like Lena Dunham.

    And yet, the all the bad guys are white males.

    It’s a mystery I tells ya…

  156. @Achmed E. Newman
    See, now that's what I've been saying about soccer. The game sucks because you can't use your hands for anything. I guess Mr. Blatter would agree with me, even being president of FIFA. If a ball's coming at you, you damn well ought to be able to catch it, and if you see an ass like that, well, you damn well ought to be able to squeeze it. Right?

    Frank DeFord was once asked by a BBC reporter why soccer had such minimal appeal in the US, unlike the rest of the world. DeFord replied, “It’s obvious, Tom. In America we love sports like football, baseball, and basketball, which all involve the use of the hands. Remember, use of the hands is what separates man from the beasts of the field.”

  157. @anonguy

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    .

    This goes back to only skeevy guys get caught up in this. All Warren's old loves remember him fondly.

    Most guys don't do Weinstein type antics, coercively dangling favors in front of women for sex, when they achieve power and status. It is kind of the narrative that all guys are prone to doing this, but they aren't, it is only just some guys and the less attractive ones.

    “Only skeevy guys get caught up in this.”

    Exactly. Remember Tom Brady’s rules for avoiding a sexual harassment suit? (Now blocked on Youtube.)

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f76_1323277426

  158. @Clyde

    Despite Beatty’s legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.
     
    My guess is he always let the ladies off gently and nicely and showed respect. Plus was generous and showed them a good to great time while it lasted. Helped them get roles and with their career in general, because Warren Beatty knew everyone in Hollywood and could make good things happen. When breaking up he never left them with a bad taste in their mouth. It was a different era with minimized kiss n tell for revenge.
    How about his girlfriend Julie Christie in her prime? Holy cow!

    Wasn’t Shampoo (with Julie Christie) just Beatty’s bio-pic in 1975…

    From IMDB: Thirty-something George Roundy [Warren Beatty] is a Beverly Hills hairdresser, who spends as much time sleeping with his female clients as he does doing their hair. Whether they want to admit it, all the women in his life are on the most part aware that they are are not the only one with whom he is sleeping. …

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Shampoo also had something to do with how Beverly Hills is infested with Republicans from top to bottom.
  159. @Dahlia

    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn’t think so.
     
    I did this a time or two in high school without consent. Sometimes just ran up and slapped, too.
    I laughed. My friends laughed. The guy laughed. It all seemed like fun and games, but now I know The Truth.
    On behalf of those girls/women, please accept my apologies.

    I’m convinced women just love old men for some bizarre reason. When I was younger I loved older women. So say when I was 18 I wanted a woman say 35-45, something like that. I loved their experience. I had mixed results. Even at that old age they still prefer old farts.

    The funny thing is that as I get older it’s getting easier to pick up women 10-15 yes younger than me. They eat that shit up. Not that I don’t like it but it’s like damn I needed that when I was younger.

    The older I get the less I worry about marriage.

    I figure the money alone much less the father fetish will guarantee me a wife….

    • Replies: @Dahlia
    Well "Labyrinth" was a very popular movie in the 80s and most people have fond memories of it and don't badmouth it. Bowie was in his mid 30s and the girl was a mid-teenager, 14?
    On the other hand, I often joke that the Baby Boomer men groomed Gen X girls on an epic scale due to:
    sheer numbers + sex revolution + crime wave

    Definitely mixed feelings, but this moral panic is really starting to scare me. A Labour politician just committed suicide. And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator because my mom was 18 and he was 34 when they got together- never mind that she was his first girlfriend, being so ultra-shy. And of course never mind that 18 was and still means legal adult.
  160. I know a girl who went to a Scorpions concert back in 1981 when she was just 15.
    After the show she met the (German) band members and they invited her back to the hotel.

    At the hotel she hung out with the band and their wives. She had a few drinks with them and smoked some weed but couldn’t get any of them to go to bed with her because their wives were all there. She ended up giving it to a roadie.

    She’s told me this story at least ten different times over the years and the point, as far as I can tell, is that the Scorpions were and are to this day a major disappointment to her.

  161. @Clyde
    Hope Solo is unafraid to get physical on and off field...She scraps with guys from time to time, so why didn't she sock Sep right in the kisser? Scraps as in boyfriends, husband, I forget maybe it's in her Wikipedia entry.
    ________

    Split decision? Could she take on Rhonda Rousey in her prime?

    911 Tapes From Hope Solo's Pre-Wedding Fight - ABC News
    abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/03/911-tapes-from-hope...
    Mar 05, 2013 · Tapes of the 911 calls that led to the arrest of Jerramy Stevens, 32, husband of soccer star Hope Solo, 31, last November were released Monday. Stevens, a ...

    Hope Solo: Alleged Family Fight Results In Soccer Star’s ...
    https://www.inquisitr.com/1311765/hope-solo-alleged-family-fight...
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    And not just any guy, but a 6-6 former NFL tight end.

    Hope is wayyy out there on the hot/crazy matrix.

  162. @Nico
    Journalists' refusal to inform themselves or their readers of the actual definitions of harassment, assault and consent is arguably gross negligence on their part. However, because most of the people they discuss are well-known, and because in the United States public figures must prove not mere negligence but either actual malice or "reckless disregard for the truth" to recover damages for calumny, they will never be held accountable. The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.

    The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.

    Ironic, or not, the fortunes of the print news media business appears to reflect the lower standard to communicate the truth–with most having declined about 90% in value over the last two decades.

    • Replies: @Nico
    That would be some comfort if they didn't still wield immense direct and indirect influence on decision-makers.
  163. In The Guardian newspaper Roman Polanski’s getting a 14 year old drunk, drugging her and then anally raping her is being described as allegations of assaulting a 17 year old.

  164. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    No, she is reprllent. She also hasn't been in the news of late, especially since she was suspended last yr by US Women's soccer association whatever its called. Basically she's in semi-retirement mode. And a few yrs back was one of the more famous members of the infamous frapping which included such celebs as Justin Verlander's new bride, and Jennifer Lawrence.

    Her domestic violence trial was dismissed, then it was reinstated, then just sort of went the way of....? Where is it?

    No taste, no class, no hope.

    What is this infamous frapping of which you speak?

    • Replies: @PapayaSF
    The "Fappening": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_photos
    , @res
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Fappening
  165. @Reg Cæsar

    On the other hand, I’m struck by what a high percentage of the names in the news so far are extremely … expected. Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Brett Ratner? Louis C.K.?
     
    And I'm struck by how convenient the timing of this is, considering whom the majority of both victims and perpetrators supported in the last election.

    Seth Blatter Grabbed Hope Solo’s Ass
     
    Who would ever stoop solo?

    I thought it was spelled “shtup”?

    • Replies: @SND

    I thought it was spelled “shtup”?
     
    As in "she shtups to conquer."
  166. Well, too be honest, seeing the loons of Salem Village string each other up on Gallows Hill is actually quite enjoyable when you’re 1) a safe distance from Salem Village and 2) not a Puritan.

  167. @eah
    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/929454225188368384

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    “I literally had to pull my vehicle over and get myself together as I was shaking so badly from how disgusted I was. Absolutely terrible,” Oxenrider had posted on Facebook along with a photo of the billboard.
     
    Right in the kokoro. Practically Birkenau.
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/929650535879335936
  168. @Forbes
    Wasn't Shampoo (with Julie Christie) just Beatty's bio-pic in 1975...

    From IMDB: Thirty-something George Roundy [Warren Beatty] is a Beverly Hills hairdresser, who spends as much time sleeping with his female clients as he does doing their hair. Whether they want to admit it, all the women in his life are on the most part aware that they are are not the only one with whom he is sleeping. ...

    Shampoo also had something to do with how Beverly Hills is infested with Republicans from top to bottom.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    I think you'll need to flesh that theory out a little.
  169. is any one of these a surprise to any one?

  170. @Chrisnonymous
    We elected to the post of "Modern Khan" a man who was married to a matronly, unattractive, sexless woman.

    Twice. Strange times.

    If Clinton and Bush strayed a few times, who can blame them? How would you like to be the most powerful man in the world and have to sleep with some who looks and acts like your grandmother?

    It could be worse: you could be married to Michelle Obama!

  171. Way OT, I though Steve might be interested in this bizarre story from NZ in which the Washington Post was duped into publishing a very very weird story on NZ politics by some fringe lunatic immigrant blogger:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11943158

    Here’s the twitter feed of the weird American gender fluid writer:

    NZers are strange. We are all very liberal and all that, but when the country is misreprented by foreigners, the pitchforks come out. This fellow would be well advised to head for the airport with haste.

    In the meantime, what is happening to the Wapo to let this past the gatekeepers?

  172. @ScarletNumber

    Remember Beatty made only one film during the eighties the mega flop Ishtar.
     
    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.

    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.

    I remember the move. It was like the curate’s egg-good in parts.

    It was moderately financially successful for a big budget movie. I don’t know why Beatty won the Oscar for best director. Apparently some of the scenes were shot dozens of times before he was satisfied, the filming went on overlong, was extremely expensive as there was filming in five different countries, and he was involved in a personal relationship with one of the leading ladies during the course of the filming. Also I really don’t see how you can star in a movie and direct it at the same time. If this was an Oscar winning directorial performance, why are more director Oscars not won by actor-directors?

    Of course I have always been baffled by who wins the various Oscars, but of course I am no judge of movie-making skill or of acting and am not a movie-making professional and do not see movies with the same eye for details as members of the Motion Picture Academy. If I was, I guess I would favor actors who always get it right on the first take, always know their lines and which camera to look at, and so on. And if they have had sex with me, then that would get a few bonus points.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Also remember, lots and lots of women are in the Academy of Motion Picture Artists, and they vote for the Oscar categories too. It didn't hurt that for years Beatty had been pruning them for future professional favors (e.g. vote for me when I'm nominated).

    Really was stunned to read that Reds made money. For years was always led to believe that it was a massive flop. Not like anyone recalls it now and its on everyone's favorite classic '80's list like Ferris Bueler and Spinal Tap are.

    Speaking of Shampoo, wasn't studio head Jon Peters a hairdresser at one time in his career?
    , @Mr. Anon

    I remember the move. It was like the curate’s egg-good in parts.
     
    Yeah, the part where Beatty's character dies in a shabby, mis-managed hospital in his beloved workers' paradise. Whatever good parts it may have had certainly didn't include those interviews with the shriveled old commies.

    The only thing I came away with from that movie was the regret that Stalin didn't have all those yakking parlour-pinks stood up against a wall and shot.

  173. @whorefinder

    Presumably, somebody is currently investigating Warren Beatty. Although judging from the lack of headlines about Beatty so far, the newshounds are having trouble finding aged starlets who told Beatty “No.”
     
    Despite Beatty's legendary swordsman status and long tenure at it, there have been extremely few kiss-and-tell tales about him. Madonna probably comes closest to talking about intimate details about her time with Beatty. I always wonder whether to chalk it up to Beatty being great in bed, or lousy in bed, or else him threatening the ladies if they ever exposed his private life.

    here’s a joke about Beatty when he was younger.

    Starlet to her friend I slept with Warren Beatty!!!!!

    Friend Hasn’t everyone?

    Beatty’s so old no one under 60 has heard of him.

  174. Isn’t Clinton due for a re-examination. Now that we’re going back over things? And wouldn’t that make Hillary the goddamned Ultimate Enabler?

    Weinstein’s and Louis’ bona fides didn’t save them. And, the Clinton’s are now the Lost Cause.

    Not expecting anything, but speculation asserts itself at this moment.

  175. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    Nicole Brown Simpson, for one, can confirm that “Men of Color treat women with respect.”

  176. In case you cannot get #MeToo enough, after the glossy magazine stories, let’s have some imported stories:

    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/09/metoo-nigeria-rape-survivors-orig.cnn

    “Nigerian women share their #MeToo stories: Three Nigerian rape survivors share their harrowing stories of sexual harassment and abuse.”

    Why would anyone watch this except to ascertain that Tiny Duck is 100% right?

  177. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @miss marple
    OT - When the pile on gets too deep here @ isteve on unz, I simply picture Sailer as Woody Allen. After my guffaws have subsided, wait... OK. I start feeling a little guilty. Is it wrong to make Woody Allen into a caricature?

    A more relevant question: how young is too young for a dating relationship between a male over 21 and a female? I'd start the bidding at no lower than 16 if I were a man. But, then, I'm not a man.

    And would age difference enter into the decision?

    In this as in all things, there is a Bell Curve.

    A raw number is not enough, so long as both participants are adults as defined by the law.

    Sexual behavior with prepubescents is malum in se, wrong in and of itself , from natural biology. Even animals left to themselves don’t do that.

    Sexual behavior with individuals biologically capable of response (the old ‘old enough to bleed old enough to breed’) but under the legal age of consent is malum prohibitum, validly wrong because against legitimate law, because the state has a reasonable compelling interest in setting an age under which persons are treated as under the valid age of consent.

    Within those parameters, I would state that we need to look at a number of things.

    One very famous marriage is interesting. Consider the 21 year old man who married a 16 year old woman largely to keep her from having to go back to an orphanage until she was 18. It was a consensual thing, but there was a power differential. Legally, he was an adult and she was in most respects a child.

    When he came back from the war, she divorced him. He became a cop. She became Marilyn Monroe.

    Was the relationship wrong and why or why not?

    What about rich cougars that not only hook up with but marry young men, who have no money and little way to earn more than a minimum wage income on their own? It happens. I remember one of goody-goody Barbara Mandrell’s sisters married a military school cadet.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Yes, but the rich cougars either are:

    1. Desperate, cause no one else wants them.
    2. Know its only a matter of time before the boytoy leaves them for a younger model.

    Also, a famous example of an older man and with a prepubescent hookup; The prophet Muhammad. He was about mid. 50's when he married Aisha, his final wife. Aisha was six years old, but the marriage was not consumated until she was nine.

    So, a ca.55 yr. old man has relations with 9 yr old. No way that she was in puberty at nine yrs old. And, he is their upright example in most all things in that corner of the world.

    But in the West, Lewis Carroll got in mighty big trouble for even thinking of going there with a nine yr old child.
    , @BB753
    Do you seriously believe that Marilyn Monroe was a child in most respects at age 16?
  178. @Mr. Anon

    And there goes “Jaws.”
     
    No way. Jaws will always be a great movie. Close Encounters of the Third Kind too. And I don't care how many weenie-waggers prove to have been involved.

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn't be so quick to condemn - no man has an interest in promoting that.

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t be so quick to condemn – no man has an interest in promoting that.

    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time. Saying “I want to fuck you” to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over “the other.”

    If you think it was likely she’s lying about the Richard Dreyfus Penis Experience, as if it was her desire to cast herself in that sordid, low-brow episode for the wonderful attention it would bring her so late in life, I think you need to attend Alanon meetings until you get a grip.

    Meanwhile, I’m currently watching “Curt,” who is likely masturbating in the back seat of Steve’s Edsel, while begging him and his sister to chase down that girl in the white Thunderbird so he can finish.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Serge Gainsbourg letting it all hang out:

    https://youtu.be/dHLIHrN95Vg?t=34

    The presenter tries to mistranslate as "you are very beautiful" but gets told that he's not Gorbachev or Reagan
    , @Mr. Anon

    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time.
     
    So he admitted to the everything.........except the especially objectional part of the accusation.

    Saying “I want to fuck you” to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over “the other.”
     
    Or, it is a rather crude come-on that, in some circumstances, might just be deemed a mating ritual.

    I don't know the full story. Neither do you. I'm not willing to burn down a man's reputation just because "she said".
  179. @the one they call Desanex
    They don’t look fake to me: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3066072/images/o-GEORGE-HW-BUSH-facebook.jpg

    Perhaps, but we’re not seeing his molars. If he has any left to grind with.

  180. @eah
    OT

    Eurocentric sentiments at events in Poland today are being generally criticised in the media -- below is a foto of the kids chosen by the German establishment to accompany the German national football team onto the field before a recent match:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOWmzceV4AAuGjD.jpg

    The kid on the far right looks like a nazi and should be removed.

  181. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    What "normal" man would ever even think about doing anything for or against the "manute shoulders" of Hope Sola?

    She looks plenty attractive enough to me. I don’t know what all you guys are harping about.

  182. @YK

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t be so quick to condemn – no man has an interest in promoting that.
     
    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time. Saying "I want to fuck you" to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over "the other."

    If you think it was likely she’s lying about the Richard Dreyfus Penis Experience, as if it was her desire to cast herself in that sordid, low-brow episode for the wonderful attention it would bring her so late in life, I think you need to attend Alanon meetings until you get a grip.

    Meanwhile, I’m currently watching "Curt," who is likely masturbating in the back seat of Steve's Edsel, while begging him and his sister to chase down that girl in the white Thunderbird so he can finish.

    Serge Gainsbourg letting it all hang out:

    The presenter tries to mistranslate as “you are very beautiful” but gets told that he’s not Gorbachev or Reagan

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Serge Gainsbourg was notoriously way ahead of the times in terms of being a textbook example of Jewish "Ordeal of Civility" creepiness.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/feb/28/serge-gainsbourg-20-scandalous-moments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Gainsbourg


    His next song for Gall, Les Sucettes (Lollipops), caused a scandal in France: Gainsbourg had written the song with double-meanings and strong sexual innuendo of which the singer was apparently unaware when she recorded it. Whereas Gall thought that the song was about a girl enjoying lollipops, it was actually about oral sex. The controversy arising from the song, although a big hit for Gall, threw her career off-track in France for several
    years
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_sucettes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iysdFu_TQ

    Serge Gainsbourg & Charlotte Gainsbourg Lemon Incest
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khy_0BTIdmg

    Charlotte Forever Serge & Charlotte Gainsbourg English Subtitles
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij8OzweQr20

  183. “…he’s finished.”

    Why? Do Alabama voters have a penchant for taking orders from up North?

  184. @eah
    https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/928743102201856001

    “I literally had to pull my vehicle over and get myself together as I was shaking so badly from how disgusted I was. Absolutely terrible,” Oxenrider had posted on Facebook along with a photo of the billboard.

    Right in the kokoro. Practically Birkenau.

  185. I feel sad when I think about Hope Solo. When she was young, she’d light up the room when she walked in. She seemed decent and friendly. But then she got jacked up (roids?) and had a screw loose and then married Jerramy. Not only is a he a verified rapist, but he almost beat a kid to death once.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    He a good boy. He dindu nuffin'. And welcome to the University of Washington on full scholarship!
  186. @annnon
    a rule i've heard for socially acceptable age differences is to divide the man's age by two and add seven. works pretty well.

    Please… such a phallocentric version of the formula! When there are two choices one should always use the gynocentric version:
    (female age – 7)*2 = male age

  187. In Hollywood, most of them don’t have to. Plenty of women make it clear to men like Weinstein that they’re available. That’s part of the reason Weinstein got so brazen and forceful; it was so common for women to offer him sex that he came to expect it, and was outraged when a woman denied him.

    Or he gets off on coercion, domination, manipulation, etc. This would answer most of the “doesn’t he know about hookers?” questions.

    Julie Christie

    Attractive meets Resting Bitch Face.

  188. @SteveRogers42
    What is this infamous frapping of which you speak?
  189. @Mr. Anon
    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he's finished.

    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he’s finished.

    Is there a new standard for age difference? The old guidance used to be half your age plus seven. So when Roy Moore was 32, 23 was in zone. 32 yo dating teenagers in the 80s was creepy. Not to stereotype, but it actually sounds like something out of Alabama, an observation I’m surprised I haven’t heard anyone else making anywhere else.

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one’s age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?

    Who will take his place, a swamp creature? Who dug up this stuff, Hillary or eGOP?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one’s age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?
     
    Really depends if you want to have children, doesn't it? An older man is more likely to be financially established, have income, be able to provide a home and material comforts. The younger woman can bear healthy children, be energetic around the home, and so on. After he dies, she can get herself a toy boy.

    The half your age plus seven meme seems to be a rule of thumb for what might have been considered to be socially acceptable in a conventional society at one time, but even then there is a lot of variance between societies, for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.

    However improvements in health care mean that men are living longer and remaining in better shape than they used to, and drugs like Viagra can leave older men

    With no particular place to go...

    Can you imagine the way I felt?
    I couldn't unfasten my safety belt!


    [Chuck Berry: No Particular Place To Go. 1964]

    And then when you consider examples like the French president and his wife, and the fact that children are now having sex change surgery, then it is more a case of:

    Times have changed
    And we've often rewound the clock
    Since the Puritans got a shock
    When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
    Today...Plymouth Rock would land on them.

    In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
    Was looked on as something shocking.
    But now, God knows,
    Anything goes


    Read more: Cole Porter - Anything Goes Lyrics | MetroLyrics
  190. @Anonymous
    An 'ass-man' one and all.

    A total ass in office, and an old goat fixated with ass in dotage.

    This puts a whole new spin on the Bush clan’s obsession with Latin America!

  191. @Forbes
    I thought it was spelled "shtup"?

    I thought it was spelled “shtup”?

    As in “she shtups to conquer.”

  192. Dahlia says:
    @Neoconned
    I'm convinced women just love old men for some bizarre reason. When I was younger I loved older women. So say when I was 18 I wanted a woman say 35-45, something like that. I loved their experience. I had mixed results. Even at that old age they still prefer old farts.

    The funny thing is that as I get older it's getting easier to pick up women 10-15 yes younger than me. They eat that shit up. Not that I don't like it but it's like damn I needed that when I was younger.

    The older I get the less I worry about marriage.

    I figure the money alone much less the father fetish will guarantee me a wife....

    Well “Labyrinth” was a very popular movie in the 80s and most people have fond memories of it and don’t badmouth it. Bowie was in his mid 30s and the girl was a mid-teenager, 14?
    On the other hand, I often joke that the Baby Boomer men groomed Gen X girls on an epic scale due to:
    sheer numbers + sex revolution + crime wave

    Definitely mixed feelings, but this moral panic is really starting to scare me. A Labour politician just committed suicide. And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator because my mom was 18 and he was 34 when they got together- never mind that she was his first girlfriend, being so ultra-shy. And of course never mind that 18 was and still means legal adult.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator
     
    Only if he's perceived as a threat by the GOPe.
    , @Neoconned
    I wouldn't be shocked.

    The more I've read over the last few yrs with various news items & from what my older relatives tell me about "what it was like back in the day" the more I discovered just how rampant child grooming and molesters we're back in the day. I'm not sure if that's the entire story though.

    My fiance didn't know her dad til she was seven yrs old and he didn't want to be a dad at first.

    Maybe I'm a father figure, I dunno.

    It's weird though because I have no kids and never had a desire to either marry a younger woman or have kids. I was attracted to younger women but it was only about sex.

    But I've always wanted and preferred older women.

    It wasn't until I met this chick that I really changed my mind.

    But it seems women are attracted naturally to men 5-40 yrs older than them. Maybe it's a cultural thing instead of a scientific one. Dunno why but most American women seem to have a daddy complex....

    , @BB753
    Indeed, only a childless woman past her prime would think of a 18 year woman as a "child". If I had an 18 year old daughter, I'd rather have her marry an older man than sleeping around with young penniless dudes her own age. Another advantage of marrying young is you can have more children, from a dad's point of view, more grandchildren.
  193. @YK

    But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.
     
    Well, we're not close, but we're getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don't rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes "Jaws." When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint's tale of woe, all I'll be thinking is whether or not he's wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses...

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone's thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider "taking one for the team," in that case?

    Same goes for "Back to the Future," and... hmm.. "The Man Who Would Be King" deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    We’ve always got Christopher Plummer

  194. @Dahlia
    Well "Labyrinth" was a very popular movie in the 80s and most people have fond memories of it and don't badmouth it. Bowie was in his mid 30s and the girl was a mid-teenager, 14?
    On the other hand, I often joke that the Baby Boomer men groomed Gen X girls on an epic scale due to:
    sheer numbers + sex revolution + crime wave

    Definitely mixed feelings, but this moral panic is really starting to scare me. A Labour politician just committed suicide. And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator because my mom was 18 and he was 34 when they got together- never mind that she was his first girlfriend, being so ultra-shy. And of course never mind that 18 was and still means legal adult.

    And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator

    Only if he’s perceived as a threat by the GOPe.

  195. @Steve Sailer
    Shampoo also had something to do with how Beverly Hills is infested with Republicans from top to bottom.

    I think you’ll need to flesh that theory out a little.

  196. Bragging about being sexually harassed is sort of a dream subject for women who weren’t battered, crippled, plunged into shame, etc. If you had scruples you’d report the “harasser” while he was still on the prowl, but if the social-grooming gay-run news media is exposing them for this week’s table talk, then it’s popular & fun to join in the victimhood-attention. Women who have suffered genuine predation sound different from the dime-a-dozen Offended Play-Acting Working Women’s League. These latter are the same kind of women who try to shock their psychotherapists with detailed rape fantasies. They follow the programming like little robots

  197. @Jonathan Mason

    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.
     
    I remember the move. It was like the curate's egg-good in parts.

    It was moderately financially successful for a big budget movie. I don't know why Beatty won the Oscar for best director. Apparently some of the scenes were shot dozens of times before he was satisfied, the filming went on overlong, was extremely expensive as there was filming in five different countries, and he was involved in a personal relationship with one of the leading ladies during the course of the filming. Also I really don't see how you can star in a movie and direct it at the same time. If this was an Oscar winning directorial performance, why are more director Oscars not won by actor-directors?

    Of course I have always been baffled by who wins the various Oscars, but of course I am no judge of movie-making skill or of acting and am not a movie-making professional and do not see movies with the same eye for details as members of the Motion Picture Academy. If I was, I guess I would favor actors who always get it right on the first take, always know their lines and which camera to look at, and so on. And if they have had sex with me, then that would get a few bonus points.

    Also remember, lots and lots of women are in the Academy of Motion Picture Artists, and they vote for the Oscar categories too. It didn’t hurt that for years Beatty had been pruning them for future professional favors (e.g. vote for me when I’m nominated).

    Really was stunned to read that Reds made money. For years was always led to believe that it was a massive flop. Not like anyone recalls it now and its on everyone’s favorite classic ’80’s list like Ferris Bueler and Spinal Tap are.

    Speaking of Shampoo, wasn’t studio head Jon Peters a hairdresser at one time in his career?

  198. @Anonymous
    In this as in all things, there is a Bell Curve.

    A raw number is not enough, so long as both participants are adults as defined by the law.

    Sexual behavior with prepubescents is malum in se, wrong in and of itself , from natural biology. Even animals left to themselves don't do that.

    Sexual behavior with individuals biologically capable of response (the old 'old enough to bleed old enough to breed') but under the legal age of consent is malum prohibitum, validly wrong because against legitimate law, because the state has a reasonable compelling interest in setting an age under which persons are treated as under the valid age of consent.

    Within those parameters, I would state that we need to look at a number of things.

    One very famous marriage is interesting. Consider the 21 year old man who married a 16 year old woman largely to keep her from having to go back to an orphanage until she was 18. It was a consensual thing, but there was a power differential. Legally, he was an adult and she was in most respects a child.

    When he came back from the war, she divorced him. He became a cop. She became Marilyn Monroe.

    Was the relationship wrong and why or why not?

    What about rich cougars that not only hook up with but marry young men, who have no money and little way to earn more than a minimum wage income on their own? It happens. I remember one of goody-goody Barbara Mandrell's sisters married a military school cadet.

    Yes, but the rich cougars either are:

    1. Desperate, cause no one else wants them.
    2. Know its only a matter of time before the boytoy leaves them for a younger model.

    Also, a famous example of an older man and with a prepubescent hookup; The prophet Muhammad. He was about mid. 50’s when he married Aisha, his final wife. Aisha was six years old, but the marriage was not consumated until she was nine.

    So, a ca.55 yr. old man has relations with 9 yr old. No way that she was in puberty at nine yrs old. And, he is their upright example in most all things in that corner of the world.

    But in the West, Lewis Carroll got in mighty big trouble for even thinking of going there with a nine yr old child.

  199. WTF is a sep blatter or a hope solo?

  200. @anonguy

    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.
     
    Back in pre-Tailhook days, the side benefit of any government service overseas, whether military or civilian, was a lot of unrestricted boozing and whoring.

    There is still a little bit of this, the Secret Service gets pinged on for incidents, but back in the day, it was pervasive. Olongapo had 15,000 or something bar girls in the 80s. Imagine the Navy cooperating to make this film today, much less what they were doing for the sex trade outside the gates, legitimizing the whole thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghjm1nKixw

    God, I miss the Cold War

    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?

    One time back in the ’80s the Paw (we called him “the Paw”) was sitting around in this bar in Olangapo with us, you know, having a few beers and whatnot, when suddenly we hear this ruckus from up front and we’re all like “what the f–k?” We look up and there’s this Flip pimp and he’s got this thirteen-year-old whore by the hair and he was just, like, whaling on her. He’s trying to do her some damage but he’s about 98 pounds sopping wet and she’s whaling him back. She was one of those strong street whores and she was giving him back, punch for punch, screaming, and so forth. It went on like this for a minute or two, when suddenly that whore draws back and nails him right in the eye with one of those scary Filipino fingernails, and, man, the blood went everywhere. That pimp like fell back and then reached down and pulled out a knife.
    Paw puts his beer down and walks over and grabs that pimp by his knife hand, and that pimp jerked back and turned around and said “Man, I cut you, I got a knife.” Paw, man, he doesn’t move, he just says “F–k you and f–k your knife” in that Minnesota accent. That pimp starts to jab at him, then Paw just reaches out and slaps him in the face. Right in the face, like you’d slap a bitch! Well, we all jump up and get ready to rock, but nobody moves, then, I sh–t you not, that little Flip falls on the floor of that bar and starts crying! Crying, like a girl! Paw reaches down, takes the knife, and walks back to the table, like nothing, picks up his San Miguel and finishes it. Man, we busted a gut laughing.
    About that time, though, that thirteen year old whore had gotten up and picked up a beer stein off the bar, one of those big, heavy glass steins. She comes over to where that pimp is crying on the floor and lifts that stein as high as she could and then busts that stein right over the top of that pimp’s head.
    Bam! Blood and glass flying everywhere! That pimp went down like a column of wet s–t. The whore screaming in Tagalog, that pimp laying on the floor in his own blood, and here come the Shore Patrols.
    They ask us what happened. Paw just says “Nothin’, man,” and walks out of there with that pimp’s knife, laughing his ass off.
    He still has that knife. True f–king story, no s–t.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/05/pawlenty-for-president.html

    • Replies: @anonguy

    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?
     
    Yes, but even better, I was there on the ground in the 80s

    Again, I miss the Cold War.
  201. If he did grab her ass, it strongly raises my opinion of Blatter. Hope Solo, though not ugly, is basically a violent thug. Sepp Blatter, you are a more courageous man than me if this is true. She could have knocked you out in two seconds.

  202. @YK

    Seriously, prior to this accusation, I never had any reason to think ill of Richard Dreyfuss. It is still just an accusation, and an isolated one at that. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t be so quick to condemn – no man has an interest in promoting that.
     
    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time. Saying "I want to fuck you" to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over "the other."

    If you think it was likely she’s lying about the Richard Dreyfus Penis Experience, as if it was her desire to cast herself in that sordid, low-brow episode for the wonderful attention it would bring her so late in life, I think you need to attend Alanon meetings until you get a grip.

    Meanwhile, I’m currently watching "Curt," who is likely masturbating in the back seat of Steve's Edsel, while begging him and his sister to chase down that girl in the white Thunderbird so he can finish.

    Sir, he admitted to everything except exposing his penis, and was an out-of-mind committed cokehead at the time.

    So he admitted to the everything………except the especially objectional part of the accusation.

    Saying “I want to fuck you” to your young, female employee is a power move made by one in power, absolutely secure in his position over “the other.”

    Or, it is a rather crude come-on that, in some circumstances, might just be deemed a mating ritual.

    I don’t know the full story. Neither do you. I’m not willing to burn down a man’s reputation just because “she said”.

  203. @Jonathan Mason

    Reds came out in 1981 and was a critical success. Beatty won his only Oscar for directing it.
     
    I remember the move. It was like the curate's egg-good in parts.

    It was moderately financially successful for a big budget movie. I don't know why Beatty won the Oscar for best director. Apparently some of the scenes were shot dozens of times before he was satisfied, the filming went on overlong, was extremely expensive as there was filming in five different countries, and he was involved in a personal relationship with one of the leading ladies during the course of the filming. Also I really don't see how you can star in a movie and direct it at the same time. If this was an Oscar winning directorial performance, why are more director Oscars not won by actor-directors?

    Of course I have always been baffled by who wins the various Oscars, but of course I am no judge of movie-making skill or of acting and am not a movie-making professional and do not see movies with the same eye for details as members of the Motion Picture Academy. If I was, I guess I would favor actors who always get it right on the first take, always know their lines and which camera to look at, and so on. And if they have had sex with me, then that would get a few bonus points.

    I remember the move. It was like the curate’s egg-good in parts.

    Yeah, the part where Beatty’s character dies in a shabby, mis-managed hospital in his beloved workers’ paradise. Whatever good parts it may have had certainly didn’t include those interviews with the shriveled old commies.

    The only thing I came away with from that movie was the regret that Stalin didn’t have all those yakking parlour-pinks stood up against a wall and shot.

  204. @ScarletNumber
    Nobody remembers Alanis Morrissette from You Can’t Do That On Television. She was in 5 episodes well after the show passed its peak.

    Nobody remembers Alanis Morrissette from You Can’t Do That On Television. She was in 5 episodes well after the show passed its peak.

    I don’t deny that. But that’s still plenty of time to get molested.

  205. @Dahlia
    Well "Labyrinth" was a very popular movie in the 80s and most people have fond memories of it and don't badmouth it. Bowie was in his mid 30s and the girl was a mid-teenager, 14?
    On the other hand, I often joke that the Baby Boomer men groomed Gen X girls on an epic scale due to:
    sheer numbers + sex revolution + crime wave

    Definitely mixed feelings, but this moral panic is really starting to scare me. A Labour politician just committed suicide. And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator because my mom was 18 and he was 34 when they got together- never mind that she was his first girlfriend, being so ultra-shy. And of course never mind that 18 was and still means legal adult.

    I wouldn’t be shocked.

    The more I’ve read over the last few yrs with various news items & from what my older relatives tell me about “what it was like back in the day” the more I discovered just how rampant child grooming and molesters we’re back in the day. I’m not sure if that’s the entire story though.

    My fiance didn’t know her dad til she was seven yrs old and he didn’t want to be a dad at first.

    Maybe I’m a father figure, I dunno.

    It’s weird though because I have no kids and never had a desire to either marry a younger woman or have kids. I was attracted to younger women but it was only about sex.

    But I’ve always wanted and preferred older women.

    It wasn’t until I met this chick that I really changed my mind.

    But it seems women are attracted naturally to men 5-40 yrs older than them. Maybe it’s a cultural thing instead of a scientific one. Dunno why but most American women seem to have a daddy complex….

    • Replies: @anon
    Maybe I’m a father figure, I dunno.

    Hey, speaking of "father figures", when are people going to notice the creepy nature of that George Michael song?

    He even says "put your tiny hand in mine". And, I suppose, a woman's hand is smaller than a man's hand. But we all know he's not talking about a woman.
  206. @anonguy

    George HW Bush strikes me as a man who probably had the self-control to be respectable as president, but probably not when he was Director of the CIA or Envoy to China. Not that I think he was ever quite Clinton-level.
     
    Back in pre-Tailhook days, the side benefit of any government service overseas, whether military or civilian, was a lot of unrestricted boozing and whoring.

    There is still a little bit of this, the Secret Service gets pinged on for incidents, but back in the day, it was pervasive. Olongapo had 15,000 or something bar girls in the 80s. Imagine the Navy cooperating to make this film today, much less what they were doing for the sex trade outside the gates, legitimizing the whole thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghjm1nKixw

    God, I miss the Cold War

    LoL there was another person on here who said the same thing the other day: “I miss the Cold War…..”
    I do too.

    In the 80s there were shipyards and optics factories that employed tens of thousands where I live. Now, you gotta fight w Puerto Ricans for fast food work…..

    Maybe we should do another Cold War….

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    Still here, Neoconned?

    But no longer claiming to be a working class guy slaving away at Pizza Hut?
  207. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Now you know why the Greek, Byzantine, Ottoman, Turkish, Arab, Chinese etc etc empires were all run by eunuchs.

    A strange exception to this 'ancient wisdom' was and is the Vatican.
    No eunuch may be Pope. In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special 'seat-less' chair, on which two 'Cardinals-of-Office' are obligated by 'manual inspection' of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify - in the original sense of the word - the holy intactedness.

    Not so much a 'Papal Bull' but a papal 'cock and ball' story.

    Of course, because of some rather profound evo-devo HBD reasons, all of these ‘eunuch-run’ empires were, essentially, led by one single male with damn nigh ‘infinite’ sexual access to the pick of the empire’s sexually attractive nubile women.
    For the pleasure of the not-so impotent potentate, the women, concubines, wives, what-have-you, were generally housed within the palace precincts – from whence the empire was run – in their own quarters, the ‘harem’ of myth and legend.

    Considering the combination of the over-sated emperor, the throng of peak-nubile, competitive young women and exclusivity of the premises, the rationale for castration of court officialdom becomes evident. Rather like the drones of the bee-hive.

    On another note, that distinguished Oxford anthropologist Desmond Morris has described the famed Turkish ‘belly-dance’ of the harem as ‘fertile masturbation’, the reason being that the dance more or less mimics the sexual movements necessary to induce a response from a typically jaded, over-sated, torpid, bloated, debauched impotent Sultan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Of course, that sterility which more or less ran all of the great and ancient empires of the Orient were, in the strictest sense, 'political eunuchs'.

    It is interesting that this phrase is now taken to have the opposite meaning, now being used to perjoratively denote a rather useless and ineffective politician 'unable to perform' , as it were, in the debating chambers of the world.

    Most likely the modern usage of the phrase 'political eunuch' is down that late great British Labour Party parliamentarian Michael Foot MP, who famously once dismissed the members(!) of the Westminster House of Lords in that way.
  208. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Of course, because of some rather profound evo-devo HBD reasons, all of these 'eunuch-run' empires were, essentially, led by one single male with damn nigh 'infinite' sexual access to the pick of the empire's sexually attractive nubile women.
    For the pleasure of the not-so impotent potentate, the women, concubines, wives, what-have-you, were generally housed within the palace precincts - from whence the empire was run - in their own quarters, the 'harem' of myth and legend.

    Considering the combination of the over-sated emperor, the throng of peak-nubile, competitive young women and exclusivity of the premises, the rationale for castration of court officialdom becomes evident. Rather like the drones of the bee-hive.

    On another note, that distinguished Oxford anthropologist Desmond Morris has described the famed Turkish 'belly-dance' of the harem as 'fertile masturbation', the reason being that the dance more or less mimics the sexual movements necessary to induce a response from a typically jaded, over-sated, torpid, bloated, debauched impotent Sultan.

    Of course, that sterility which more or less ran all of the great and ancient empires of the Orient were, in the strictest sense, ‘political eunuchs’.

    It is interesting that this phrase is now taken to have the opposite meaning, now being used to perjoratively denote a rather useless and ineffective politician ‘unable to perform’ , as it were, in the debating chambers of the world.

    Most likely the modern usage of the phrase ‘political eunuch’ is down that late great British Labour Party parliamentarian Michael Foot MP, who famously once dismissed the members(!) of the Westminster House of Lords in that way.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Another example of Michael Foot's gift for a turn of phrase was the occasion in which he dubbed the right-wing and rather vituperative Tory MP Norman Tebbit a 'semi house-trained polecat' whilst in the floor of the House of Commons.
  209. @Anonymous
    In this as in all things, there is a Bell Curve.

    A raw number is not enough, so long as both participants are adults as defined by the law.

    Sexual behavior with prepubescents is malum in se, wrong in and of itself , from natural biology. Even animals left to themselves don't do that.

    Sexual behavior with individuals biologically capable of response (the old 'old enough to bleed old enough to breed') but under the legal age of consent is malum prohibitum, validly wrong because against legitimate law, because the state has a reasonable compelling interest in setting an age under which persons are treated as under the valid age of consent.

    Within those parameters, I would state that we need to look at a number of things.

    One very famous marriage is interesting. Consider the 21 year old man who married a 16 year old woman largely to keep her from having to go back to an orphanage until she was 18. It was a consensual thing, but there was a power differential. Legally, he was an adult and she was in most respects a child.

    When he came back from the war, she divorced him. He became a cop. She became Marilyn Monroe.

    Was the relationship wrong and why or why not?

    What about rich cougars that not only hook up with but marry young men, who have no money and little way to earn more than a minimum wage income on their own? It happens. I remember one of goody-goody Barbara Mandrell's sisters married a military school cadet.

    Do you seriously believe that Marilyn Monroe was a child in most respects at age 16?

  210. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Curiously, eunuchs were and are never disbarred from the office of Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox church.
    Whilst the eastern Byzantine Roman Empire was effectively run by eunuchs, from beginning to end, the western, Italian, Empire never had eunuchs within a whiff of high office.

    Most likely it all boils down to ancient Italianate machismo, and the peculiar reverence the Romans had for the male organs of generation in their own particular ancient cult of ancestor worship through the male line.
    Hence we still use the word ‘testify’ with connection of ‘making an oath’ – the derivation is from ‘testes’ rather in the way of that vulgar Australianism ‘you can bet your balls’, the testes being symbolically grasped upon making a ‘solemn oath’.

  211. @MIkey Darmody
    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?

    One time back in the '80s the Paw (we called him "the Paw") was sitting around in this bar in Olangapo with us, you know, having a few beers and whatnot, when suddenly we hear this ruckus from up front and we're all like "what the f--k?" We look up and there's this Flip pimp and he's got this thirteen-year-old whore by the hair and he was just, like, whaling on her. He's trying to do her some damage but he's about 98 pounds sopping wet and she's whaling him back. She was one of those strong street whores and she was giving him back, punch for punch, screaming, and so forth. It went on like this for a minute or two, when suddenly that whore draws back and nails him right in the eye with one of those scary Filipino fingernails, and, man, the blood went everywhere. That pimp like fell back and then reached down and pulled out a knife.
    Paw puts his beer down and walks over and grabs that pimp by his knife hand, and that pimp jerked back and turned around and said "Man, I cut you, I got a knife." Paw, man, he doesn't move, he just says "F--k you and f--k your knife" in that Minnesota accent. That pimp starts to jab at him, then Paw just reaches out and slaps him in the face. Right in the face, like you'd slap a bitch! Well, we all jump up and get ready to rock, but nobody moves, then, I sh--t you not, that little Flip falls on the floor of that bar and starts crying! Crying, like a girl! Paw reaches down, takes the knife, and walks back to the table, like nothing, picks up his San Miguel and finishes it. Man, we busted a gut laughing.
    About that time, though, that thirteen year old whore had gotten up and picked up a beer stein off the bar, one of those big, heavy glass steins. She comes over to where that pimp is crying on the floor and lifts that stein as high as she could and then busts that stein right over the top of that pimp's head.
    Bam! Blood and glass flying everywhere! That pimp went down like a column of wet s--t. The whore screaming in Tagalog, that pimp laying on the floor in his own blood, and here come the Shore Patrols.
    They ask us what happened. Paw just says "Nothin', man," and walks out of there with that pimp's knife, laughing his ass off.
    He still has that knife. True f--king story, no s--t.
     
    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/05/pawlenty-for-president.html

    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?

    Yes, but even better, I was there on the ground in the 80s

    Again, I miss the Cold War.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Time to re-read the late Jeff Huber's "Bathtub Admirals", wherein the Navy deliquesces into medal-grabbing, budget-grabbing and political correctness once the Cold War focus is gone....
  212. @syonredux

    Steve, have you read the infamous transcript of the brainstorming between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan during the writing of Raiders of the lost Ark? The part where they discuss the right age for Indie’s love interest when they first met? It’s pretty disturbing, even for those of us who believe age of consent should be 14 for females, like it used to in saner times.
     
    Wasn't it Lucas who was pushing the idea of Marion being scandalously young?

    G[Lucas] — I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known
    this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.
    L[Kasdan] — And he was forty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He hasn't seen her in twelve years. Now she's twenty-two. It's a real strange
    relationship.
    S[Spielberg] — She had better be older than twenty-two.
    G[Lucas] — He's thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she
    was only twelve.
     

    G[Lucas] — Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it's an outrageous idea, but it is interesting.
    Once she's sixteen or seventeen it's not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and
    he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was
    madly in love with him and he...
     
    http://maddogmovies.com/almost/scripts/raidersstoryconference1978.pdf

    Hard to tell. They all sound high on coke to me!

  213. ““I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass.””

    So she ask him to do it.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Doesn't she realize what a total dumbass she looks by even admitting to that? No, guess not.

    Unless, she's been too quiet lately, and wants to inject herself into a national conversation for cheap publicity. Why go after an eighty yr old dude now, and not back when it allegedly happened? Unless like an earlier poster said, McGowan and Judd are noticing that they're past their prime at drawing attention by guys, and it pisses them off that everyone else notices that they're past it, so it's same thing with her as well.
    But in this case, publicly admitting that an eighty yr old grabbed her only makes her look ridiculous and a dumbass. It would've been more interesting to claim that Brad Pitt had grabbed her ass back in the day, not eighty yr old Blatter.

  214. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    And mostly Jewish men at that. It is only men who have economic and political power who get away with this (and some women actually, but men are afraid to call them out for obvious reasons). Black men by and large do not enjoy real economic and political power in the US and know that a connected white woman could destroy their careers at any moment. Even Obama served at the pleasure of white men and women, which is one reason why he never came across as a very powerful leader. There are a few black people who have the power to make and destroy careers, and who could pull off this kind of harassment – Oprah for sure, maybe Chris Rock, the Wayans brothers and Tyler Perry. But certainly the pool of blacks with real power, as opposed to the license given to jocks to rape co-eds with impunity, is pretty small.

  215. @eah
    https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/928743102201856001
    • Replies: @eah
    Except no, instead they get police protection to do their "Islam will dominate the world" march.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DObY32IXUAAv7f_.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DObY4nlWAAEl-Lp.jpg
  216. @Eugene Nics
    I feel sad when I think about Hope Solo. When she was young, she'd light up the room when she walked in. She seemed decent and friendly. But then she got jacked up (roids?) and had a screw loose and then married Jerramy. Not only is a he a verified rapist, but he almost beat a kid to death once.

    He a good boy. He dindu nuffin’. And welcome to the University of Washington on full scholarship!

  217. @anonguy

    Did you get a chance to read this iSteve classic?
     
    Yes, but even better, I was there on the ground in the 80s

    Again, I miss the Cold War.

    Time to re-read the late Jeff Huber’s “Bathtub Admirals”, wherein the Navy deliquesces into medal-grabbing, budget-grabbing and political correctness once the Cold War focus is gone….

    • Replies: @anonguy

    Time to re-read the late Jeff Huber’s “Bathtub Admirals”, wherein the Navy deliquesces into medal-grabbing, budget-grabbing and political correctness once the Cold War focus is gone….
     
    Watching the Navy the past 25 it is impossible to parody, like how Portlandia is really a documentary not a comedy.
  218. @Forbes

    The irony is that in America, the people who expect to be trusted the most to provide information are de facto held to a *lower* standard for their legal obligation to communicate the truth.
     
    Ironic, or not, the fortunes of the print news media business appears to reflect the lower standard to communicate the truth--with most having declined about 90% in value over the last two decades.

    That would be some comfort if they didn’t still wield immense direct and indirect influence on decision-makers.

  219. Yeah Baby! The Patriarchy’s coming down!

  220. @Realist
    "“I had Sepp Blatter grab my ass.”"

    So she ask him to do it.

    Doesn’t she realize what a total dumbass she looks by even admitting to that? No, guess not.

    Unless, she’s been too quiet lately, and wants to inject herself into a national conversation for cheap publicity. Why go after an eighty yr old dude now, and not back when it allegedly happened? Unless like an earlier poster said, McGowan and Judd are noticing that they’re past their prime at drawing attention by guys, and it pisses them off that everyone else notices that they’re past it, so it’s same thing with her as well.
    But in this case, publicly admitting that an eighty yr old grabbed her only makes her look ridiculous and a dumbass. It would’ve been more interesting to claim that Brad Pitt had grabbed her ass back in the day, not eighty yr old Blatter.

  221. @El Dato
    Serge Gainsbourg letting it all hang out:

    https://youtu.be/dHLIHrN95Vg?t=34

    The presenter tries to mistranslate as "you are very beautiful" but gets told that he's not Gorbachev or Reagan

    Serge Gainsbourg was notoriously way ahead of the times in terms of being a textbook example of Jewish “Ordeal of Civility” creepiness.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/feb/28/serge-gainsbourg-20-scandalous-moments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Gainsbourg

    His next song for Gall, Les Sucettes (Lollipops), caused a scandal in France: Gainsbourg had written the song with double-meanings and strong sexual innuendo of which the singer was apparently unaware when she recorded it. Whereas Gall thought that the song was about a girl enjoying lollipops, it was actually about oral sex. The controversy arising from the song, although a big hit for Gall, threw her career off-track in France for several
    years

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_sucettes

    Serge Gainsbourg & Charlotte Gainsbourg Lemon Incest

    Charlotte Forever Serge & Charlotte Gainsbourg English Subtitles

  222. @anonguy

    Moore, in his interview with Sean Hannity, pretty much admitted to dating teenagers.

    One way or another, he’s finished.
     
    Is there a new standard for age difference? The old guidance used to be half your age plus seven. So when Roy Moore was 32, 23 was in zone. 32 yo dating teenagers in the 80s was creepy. Not to stereotype, but it actually sounds like something out of Alabama, an observation I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone else making anywhere else.

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one's age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?

    Who will take his place, a swamp creature? Who dug up this stuff, Hillary or eGOP?

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one’s age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?

    Really depends if you want to have children, doesn’t it? An older man is more likely to be financially established, have income, be able to provide a home and material comforts. The younger woman can bear healthy children, be energetic around the home, and so on. After he dies, she can get herself a toy boy.

    The half your age plus seven meme seems to be a rule of thumb for what might have been considered to be socially acceptable in a conventional society at one time, but even then there is a lot of variance between societies, for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.

    However improvements in health care mean that men are living longer and remaining in better shape than they used to, and drugs like Viagra can leave older men

    With no particular place to go…

    Can you imagine the way I felt?
    I couldn’t unfasten my safety belt!

    [Chuck Berry: No Particular Place To Go. 1964]

    And then when you consider examples like the French president and his wife, and the fact that children are now having sex change surgery, then it is more a case of:

    Times have changed
    And we’ve often rewound the clock
    Since the Puritans got a shock
    When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
    Today…Plymouth Rock would land on them.

    In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
    Was looked on as something shocking.
    But now, God knows,
    Anything goes

    Read more: Cole Porter – Anything Goes Lyrics | MetroLyrics

    • Replies: @BB753
    In Latin America, it's almost mandatory for a successful older man to have a mistress and kids on the side, semi-offically. What wealthy man would remain faithful to his older wife when young women throw themselves at you? Only a "maricón", for sure. If you're rich and not swimming in pussy you're a fag. But there's no need to divorce the old hag. It's unsavory. That's more or less the situation, from Mexico to Argentina. Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande. They just change.
    , @anonguy

    for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.
     
    If you ever want to see social regulation in action, go walking around with another in a relationship that that is legally ok but maybe somewhat disapproved of by many in society.

    Thirty-five years ago, that might be a white dude with a black girlfriend in Georgia. These days it might be with a flashy blonde, bad enough by herself in Oregon where beauty is proscribed generally, who is also 25 years younger.

    Anyhow, it is just something you feel when you walk in someplace, everyone notices. In the case of age difference, it sets up some disruption between the males and females doing the tut-tutting. The women natively deplore the relationship, the guys go along of course but secretly some of the guys are ambivalent if not envious and their SOs know it.

    So just by your presence in a relationship deemed inappropriate, you will actually be causing subtle ripples in the relationships of those around you. This is kind of a constant thing in public. It is particularly pronounced for the age difference, but generally couples will have different opinions on propriety so any edgy relationship will generally cause a little friction of this sort.

    This is funny too, because these are usually the same people who will say wrt homosexuality, gay marriage, etc, that what two people do is their own business, yada yada. Personally, I enjoy being a little brazen in these situations and kind of stirring things up.
  223. @Tiny Duck
    Interesting that it is only white men who do this

    This is another reason demographic change is necessary. Men of Color treat women with respect

    If by “treating white women with respect” you mean beating them senseless and then raping them, then yes.

  224. @Jonathan Mason

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one’s age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?
     
    Really depends if you want to have children, doesn't it? An older man is more likely to be financially established, have income, be able to provide a home and material comforts. The younger woman can bear healthy children, be energetic around the home, and so on. After he dies, she can get herself a toy boy.

    The half your age plus seven meme seems to be a rule of thumb for what might have been considered to be socially acceptable in a conventional society at one time, but even then there is a lot of variance between societies, for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.

    However improvements in health care mean that men are living longer and remaining in better shape than they used to, and drugs like Viagra can leave older men

    With no particular place to go...

    Can you imagine the way I felt?
    I couldn't unfasten my safety belt!


    [Chuck Berry: No Particular Place To Go. 1964]

    And then when you consider examples like the French president and his wife, and the fact that children are now having sex change surgery, then it is more a case of:

    Times have changed
    And we've often rewound the clock
    Since the Puritans got a shock
    When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
    Today...Plymouth Rock would land on them.

    In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
    Was looked on as something shocking.
    But now, God knows,
    Anything goes


    Read more: Cole Porter - Anything Goes Lyrics | MetroLyrics

    In Latin America, it’s almost mandatory for a successful older man to have a mistress and kids on the side, semi-offically. What wealthy man would remain faithful to his older wife when young women throw themselves at you? Only a “maricón”, for sure. If you’re rich and not swimming in pussy you’re a fag. But there’s no need to divorce the old hag. It’s unsavory. That’s more or less the situation, from Mexico to Argentina. Family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande. They just change.

  225. George H W Bush’s affair was over a decade – Jennifer Fitzgerald was referred to as his Office Wife. Ironically, Donna Brazile, when she was on the Dukakis campaign, said something to the effect that Bush should stop bs-ing about it when rumors were flying around outside DC. Bushes always pretend to be offended, you know.

    I believe the Fitzgerald name is related to the JFK Fitzgerald. She had some sort of connection to spooks before meeting Bush, maybe through marriage.

    http://tca-reference-desk.blogspot.com/2004/04/jennifer-fitzgerald-described-as-george.html?m=1

  226. NBC News: Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations, Hollywood Shelves Wave of Projects
    by Daniel Arkin

    Fourteen years ago, Roman Polanski, the director accused of raping a 13-year-old girl in 1977, won his first Oscar for “The Pianist.” Two years later, filmmaker Woody Allen, who has long denied allegations of sexual abuse, revitalized his artistic reputation with the acclaimed “Match Point.” And last year, actor Mel Gibson, who was scorned for a 2006 anti-Semitic tirade, returned to critical glory with the Oscar-nominated “Hacksaw Ridge.”

    If we do end up with hate speech laws, can we push for a clause that criminalizes misdirection?

    Who doesn’t see the equivalency between anti-Semitic utterances and rape, sexual assault, incest and pedophilia?

  227. @ScarletNumber
    This would be funnier if she wasn't a goalie.

    Ha, I didn’t know that. I also didn’t know (hard to tell from the one picture) that’s she not really a hottie. See, I don’t know because I don’t watch this silly game in which you can’t use your hands (and thanks for that, John Cunningham). I’ll give soccer lots of credit for requiring serious aerobic fitness, but if you want that, play Ultimate Frisbee. You don’t HAVE to be a pot head to enjoy it, no matter what you’ve heard on unz*. I really like the way those flying disks fly!

    .
    .
    .

    * from certain commenters …

  228. @Anonymous
    Now you know why the Greek, Byzantine, Ottoman, Turkish, Arab, Chinese etc etc empires were all run by eunuchs.

    A strange exception to this 'ancient wisdom' was and is the Vatican.
    No eunuch may be Pope. In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special 'seat-less' chair, on which two 'Cardinals-of-Office' are obligated by 'manual inspection' of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify - in the original sense of the word - the holy intactedness.

    Not so much a 'Papal Bull' but a papal 'cock and ball' story.

    In fact, as part of papal investiture ceremonies, the putative pontiff is, rather rudely, forced to sit in a special ‘seat-less’ chair, on which two ‘Cardinals-of-Office’ are obligated by ‘manual inspection’ of the august undercarriage are sworn to testify – in the original sense of the word – the holy intactedness.

    Urban legend, it would seem, at least according to Wikipedia:

    As a consequence, certain traditions stated that popes throughout the medieval period were required to undergo a procedure wherein they sat on a special chair with a hole in the seat. A cardinal would have the task of putting his hand up the hole to check whether the pope had testicles, or doing a visual examination.[citation needed] This procedure is not taken seriously by most historians, and there is no documented instance. It is probably a scurrilous legend based on the existence of two ancient stone chairs with holes in the seats that probably dated from Roman times and may have been used because of their ancient imperial origins. Their original purpose is obscure.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_surrounding_the_papacy

  229. And notice that, while they now have everyone fixating on sexual harassment, no one is talking about pedophilia anymore … pedophilia, which they are quietly working to normalize.

  230. @YK

    But we haven’t gotten close to anything like that yet.
     
    Well, we're not close, but we're getting closer. By the way, Steven was a committed coke head for a spell. Certainly during the 1941 fiasco. Cocaine seems to be fire-water for Jews. Don't rule anything out from that era.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-of-exposing-himself-to-woman.html

    And there goes "Jaws." When Hooper is sitting at the table listening to Quint's tale of woe, all I'll be thinking is whether or not he's wearing pants under the table.

    Note to possibly sexually assaulted or harassed actors and actresses...

    If anybody of note grabbed your ass who acted in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones movies, please consider not outing them. You really want to trash everyone's thanksgiving? If Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill did anything short of rape, will you please consider "taking one for the team," in that case?

    Same goes for "Back to the Future," and... hmm.. "The Man Who Would Be King" deserves to be saved.

    I mean, if you were raped, you have to do what you have to do, but short of that, consider sparing our holiday classics. It was a long time ago. Just let it slide, please?

    Our Christmas film fare is the original Die Hard. I bet that Elliott guy showed his dick to a few underage kids. His role was written for Anthony Weiner.

  231. @anonymous-antimarxist
    I believe that Hope Solo is understood to be a troubled woman. Her dignity was damaged enough by repeated leaked nude photos of her in the "Fappening" cell phone/cloud hacks.

    But, Hope Solo is probably just another woman who regrets doing things when young, dumb, horny, ambitious and naive then go on to claim sexual harassment and abuse.

    Retroactively they wished they had a caring paternal figure looking after them.

    As an unlicensed psychiatrist, I diagnose Solo with Histrionic Personality Disorder. When she can’t get ‘good’ attention, she will settle for ‘bad’ attention. Sad. As an unlicensed physician,
    photographic evidence shows an anabolic steroid abuser . Could explain some outburst behavior.

  232. @Chrisnonymous
    I think you mean post-hoc-consensual ass grabbing is "soooooooooo wrooooooong". Plain old consensual ass-grabbing is unremarkable if fun.

    After you get hitched, things are a little more boring. To make things more sooooo wrooooong, I grab my girlfriend's ass in public now. She always says "no," but I've never gotten the cold shoulder afterwards.

    I did some acquaintence-groping in junior high and high school--some accidental and some not. The results:
    1. blushing
    2. hardened nipples
    3. increased attention paid to me

    These incidents made me embarassed and confused and got filed in the "what happened there" mental folder until the Internet came along and exposed us all to red pilling, HBD, Game, etc

    The truth is all there in pre-Christian and quasi-Christian literature. King Arthur's a good guy, but his wife really likes Lancelot. I literally couldn't read anything Arthurian between puberty and being red pilled, but the world is more comfortable now.

    no I mean getting consent destroys the fun- for me and her.whats the point of asking if you can smack her on the ass the whole point is you are taking ownership and doing what you want with her

  233. Sophia Vergera: ” A woman is meant to be looked at or else she will just fade away.”

  234. I’m thinking all this sex assault bullshit is simply the unimaginative Proggy response to no statues left to tear down. They even have the GOPe doing it to Judge Moore. I wish I could predict what the Proggys choose next, there should be a way to profit from all this virtue-signalling nonsense.

  235. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned
    I wouldn't be shocked.

    The more I've read over the last few yrs with various news items & from what my older relatives tell me about "what it was like back in the day" the more I discovered just how rampant child grooming and molesters we're back in the day. I'm not sure if that's the entire story though.

    My fiance didn't know her dad til she was seven yrs old and he didn't want to be a dad at first.

    Maybe I'm a father figure, I dunno.

    It's weird though because I have no kids and never had a desire to either marry a younger woman or have kids. I was attracted to younger women but it was only about sex.

    But I've always wanted and preferred older women.

    It wasn't until I met this chick that I really changed my mind.

    But it seems women are attracted naturally to men 5-40 yrs older than them. Maybe it's a cultural thing instead of a scientific one. Dunno why but most American women seem to have a daddy complex....

    Maybe I’m a father figure, I dunno.

    Hey, speaking of “father figures”, when are people going to notice the creepy nature of that George Michael song?

    He even says “put your tiny hand in mine”. And, I suppose, a woman’s hand is smaller than a man’s hand. But we all know he’s not talking about a woman.

  236. @El Dato
    The original title of this crazy corner story was "no-matter-what-jackie-said-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims" if we trust the URL.

    This is on the "holy shit what" level.

    (It doesn’t help that 400,000 untested rape kits are sitting on warehouse shelves collecting dust.)
     
    These must be the kits that were scheduled to be dropped over Lybia during the viagra-fuelled Ghaddafi rape raids.

    Zerlina Maxwell, is a political analyst, speaker, writer, and J.D. She typically writes about national politics and cultural issues, including domestic violence, sexual assault, and gender inequality.

     

    This is a Juris Doctor?

    It was indeed originally titled, “We should automatically believe rape claims” and the title was quickly changed, but not before some Tweeters immortalized it in screen captures.

  237. @Jonathan Mason

    Anyhow, still sounds reasonable today, that half one’s age plus seven. So for a 60 yo dude, 37? Will that still pass muster in the future?
     
    Really depends if you want to have children, doesn't it? An older man is more likely to be financially established, have income, be able to provide a home and material comforts. The younger woman can bear healthy children, be energetic around the home, and so on. After he dies, she can get herself a toy boy.

    The half your age plus seven meme seems to be a rule of thumb for what might have been considered to be socially acceptable in a conventional society at one time, but even then there is a lot of variance between societies, for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.

    However improvements in health care mean that men are living longer and remaining in better shape than they used to, and drugs like Viagra can leave older men

    With no particular place to go...

    Can you imagine the way I felt?
    I couldn't unfasten my safety belt!


    [Chuck Berry: No Particular Place To Go. 1964]

    And then when you consider examples like the French president and his wife, and the fact that children are now having sex change surgery, then it is more a case of:

    Times have changed
    And we've often rewound the clock
    Since the Puritans got a shock
    When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
    Today...Plymouth Rock would land on them.

    In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
    Was looked on as something shocking.
    But now, God knows,
    Anything goes


    Read more: Cole Porter - Anything Goes Lyrics | MetroLyrics

    for example in Latin America large age differences seem to be more accepted than in the US.

    If you ever want to see social regulation in action, go walking around with another in a relationship that that is legally ok but maybe somewhat disapproved of by many in society.

    Thirty-five years ago, that might be a white dude with a black girlfriend in Georgia. These days it might be with a flashy blonde, bad enough by herself in Oregon where beauty is proscribed generally, who is also 25 years younger.

    Anyhow, it is just something you feel when you walk in someplace, everyone notices. In the case of age difference, it sets up some disruption between the males and females doing the tut-tutting. The women natively deplore the relationship, the guys go along of course but secretly some of the guys are ambivalent if not envious and their SOs know it.

    So just by your presence in a relationship deemed inappropriate, you will actually be causing subtle ripples in the relationships of those around you. This is kind of a constant thing in public. It is particularly pronounced for the age difference, but generally couples will have different opinions on propriety so any edgy relationship will generally cause a little friction of this sort.

    This is funny too, because these are usually the same people who will say wrt homosexuality, gay marriage, etc, that what two people do is their own business, yada yada. Personally, I enjoy being a little brazen in these situations and kind of stirring things up.

  238. @El Dato
    Time to re-read the late Jeff Huber's "Bathtub Admirals", wherein the Navy deliquesces into medal-grabbing, budget-grabbing and political correctness once the Cold War focus is gone....

    Time to re-read the late Jeff Huber’s “Bathtub Admirals”, wherein the Navy deliquesces into medal-grabbing, budget-grabbing and political correctness once the Cold War focus is gone….

    Watching the Navy the past 25 it is impossible to parody, like how Portlandia is really a documentary not a comedy.

  239. @Neoconned
    LoL there was another person on here who said the same thing the other day: "I miss the Cold War....."
    I do too.

    In the 80s there were shipyards and optics factories that employed tens of thousands where I live. Now, you gotta fight w Puerto Ricans for fast food work.....

    Maybe we should do another Cold War....

    Still here, Neoconned?

    But no longer claiming to be a working class guy slaving away at Pizza Hut?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    Sadly still here til next Sunday when I leave though I am taking a break very soon.
  240. Working in Hollywood must unhinge a lot of men. You have all these beautiful actresses around. If a scene in a movie calls for them to take off their clothes, most don’t seem to have a problem with it. They will play a love scene with a male actor, kissing, fondling, and simulating sex.

    Meanwhile, not in these scenes but producing them is a horny pervert like Harvey Weinstein. He must wonder why he shouldn’t get a piece of the action. Perhaps he could have had an Oscar-winning writer come up with a movie in which a fat, ugly, middle-aged man has sex with a lot of beautiful women. He would play the male role and he could cast all the actresses he wants to see naked or give him a massage in it. Wouldn’t they do it then, for art?

    Darryl Hannah described her harassment from Weinstein, in which he asked her to let him see her breasts. Couldn’t she have recommended he watch several of her movies in which they are on display in all their glory? I understand her not wanting to uncover them in a hotel lobby, but they’re not exactly top secret.

    No women likes to be considered a slut, even if she is one, or perhaps especially if she is one. One of my sisters-in-law was using the “me too” hashtag on Facebook to announce that she’s been a victim of harassment. Yet a couple of years ago she went on a European trip with an older man she barely knew in exchange for having sex with him. It didn’t seem to bother her. I can think of another time she had a fling with a guy in order to get him to build some storage units in her apartment.

  241. On Blatter vs Solo: colour me sceptical. His ancient arse would’ve been toast in less than ten seconds.

    Here’s a ready reckoner for folks in LALALAND:

    http://bricktestament.com/the_law/rape/dt22_23a.html

  242. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Who would ever stoop solo?"

    DAMN! That's the money shot comment of the year for iSteve. That was really good.

    And in soccer, you can't use your hands.

    Especially if they were trying to avoid an illegal use of the hands.

    Close, but yours is Tweet worthy. As in millions of RT's.

    Awesome, just awesome.

    And in soccer, you can’t use your hands.

    But in gymnastics you can– just ask all those girls trained by Larry Nassar.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Still thinking, Reg, that it was the best one liner on iSteve all yr. It's tweetable. Twitter gold. Right on the money. It takes noticing to the next level.
    Someone should try and get Ann Coulter to use it so she'd RT it to millions.
    Of course she may not know who is Solo.

    Deadpanning at its finest without coming across as hackneyed. It’s classic. Stoopin' Solo.
    It's real.

  243. @candid_observer

    Who would ever stoop solo?
     
    A pun like that, you should talk.

    Who would ever stoop solo?

    A pun like that, you should talk.

    “Blatter splatter” came to mind, too, but I had second thoughts about that one.

  244. @Reg Cæsar

    And in soccer, you can’t use your hands.
     
    But in gymnastics you can-- just ask all those girls trained by Larry Nassar.

    Still thinking, Reg, that it was the best one liner on iSteve all yr. It’s tweetable. Twitter gold. Right on the money. It takes noticing to the next level.
    Someone should try and get Ann Coulter to use it so she’d RT it to millions.
    Of course she may not know who is Solo.

    Deadpanning at its finest without coming across as hackneyed. It’s classic. Stoopin’ Solo.
    It’s real.

  245. @Vinteuil
    Still here, Neoconned?

    But no longer claiming to be a working class guy slaving away at Pizza Hut?

    Sadly still here til next Sunday when I leave though I am taking a break very soon.

  246. @Dahlia
    Well "Labyrinth" was a very popular movie in the 80s and most people have fond memories of it and don't badmouth it. Bowie was in his mid 30s and the girl was a mid-teenager, 14?
    On the other hand, I often joke that the Baby Boomer men groomed Gen X girls on an epic scale due to:
    sheer numbers + sex revolution + crime wave

    Definitely mixed feelings, but this moral panic is really starting to scare me. A Labour politician just committed suicide. And according to the Washington Post, my dad is a predator because my mom was 18 and he was 34 when they got together- never mind that she was his first girlfriend, being so ultra-shy. And of course never mind that 18 was and still means legal adult.

    Indeed, only a childless woman past her prime would think of a 18 year woman as a “child”. If I had an 18 year old daughter, I’d rather have her marry an older man than sleeping around with young penniless dudes her own age. Another advantage of marrying young is you can have more children, from a dad’s point of view, more grandchildren.

  247. @Anonymous
    Of course, that sterility which more or less ran all of the great and ancient empires of the Orient were, in the strictest sense, 'political eunuchs'.

    It is interesting that this phrase is now taken to have the opposite meaning, now being used to perjoratively denote a rather useless and ineffective politician 'unable to perform' , as it were, in the debating chambers of the world.

    Most likely the modern usage of the phrase 'political eunuch' is down that late great British Labour Party parliamentarian Michael Foot MP, who famously once dismissed the members(!) of the Westminster House of Lords in that way.

    Another example of Michael Foot’s gift for a turn of phrase was the occasion in which he dubbed the right-wing and rather vituperative Tory MP Norman Tebbit a ‘semi house-trained polecat’ whilst in the floor of the House of Commons.

  248. @Anonymous
    Sep Blatter is a scoundrel of the lowest order. He has a pattern of generally loutish, jockish, conniving, promiscuous, overall sociopathic behavior that he has displayed since he was a young man. As head of FIFA, his behavior was cartoonishly corrupt, conniving and callous in his treatment of nation-members and government officials he dealt with.

    John Oliver, Englishman, on how Blatter ruined professional soccer. He talks about it for a protracted amount of time: https://youtu.be/DlJEt2KU33I https://youtu.be/qr6ar3xJL_Q https://youtu.be/rkdvawW6Vzw

    "The Swiss lizard that ruined the sport I love..."

    The campaign against FIFA/Blatter seems to have been another “jewish mafia” operation and it is no surprise that their media front men like Oliver were involved. Now we have not only the NBA controlled by the sect, but world football now has a jewish-banker lackey as its head.

    Infantino is great news for Israeli football, says Luzon
    https://www.thejc.com/sport/sport-news/infantino-is-great-news-for-israeli-football-says-luzon-1.60930

    FIFA boss rigs vote for Israel at last minute
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/fifa-boss-rigs-vote-israel-last-minute

    And Infantino is certainly no less corrupt than Blatter.

    FIFA head Gianni Infantino implicated in Panama Papers
    http://www.dw.com/en/fifa-head-gianni-infantino-implicated-in-panama-papers/a-19165971

    Panama Papers: New Fifa boss Gianni Infantino linked to corruption scandal
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/panama-papers-new-fifa-boss-gianni-infantino-linked-to-corruption-scandal-a6970381.html

    Next we can expect to see the destruction of international football competitions in favor of “club leagues” controlled by jews and changes in how the game is played to improve “spectacle”.

  249. @Anonymous
    Sep Blatter is a scoundrel of the lowest order. He has a pattern of generally loutish, jockish, conniving, promiscuous, overall sociopathic behavior that he has displayed since he was a young man. As head of FIFA, his behavior was cartoonishly corrupt, conniving and callous in his treatment of nation-members and government officials he dealt with.

    John Oliver, Englishman, on how Blatter ruined professional soccer. He talks about it for a protracted amount of time: https://youtu.be/DlJEt2KU33I https://youtu.be/qr6ar3xJL_Q https://youtu.be/rkdvawW6Vzw

    "The Swiss lizard that ruined the sport I love..."

    FIFA boss rigs vote for the Nazi regime at last minute
    http://www.shoah.org.uk/tag/fifa-zionist-boss/

    Toxic Zionism poisons the beautiful game
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160801-toxic-zionism-poisons-the-beautiful-game/

    Israel/Palestine: FIFA Sponsoring Games on Seized Land | Human Rights Watch
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/25/israel/palestine-fifa-sponsoring-games-seized-land

  250. @Anonymous
    Sep Blatter is a scoundrel of the lowest order. He has a pattern of generally loutish, jockish, conniving, promiscuous, overall sociopathic behavior that he has displayed since he was a young man. As head of FIFA, his behavior was cartoonishly corrupt, conniving and callous in his treatment of nation-members and government officials he dealt with.

    John Oliver, Englishman, on how Blatter ruined professional soccer. He talks about it for a protracted amount of time: https://youtu.be/DlJEt2KU33I https://youtu.be/qr6ar3xJL_Q https://youtu.be/rkdvawW6Vzw

    "The Swiss lizard that ruined the sport I love..."

    Open Letter To “His Excellency” Gianni Infantino, The Incumbent President of FIFA
    http://www.hiramicbrotherhood.com/single-post/2016/09/08/Open-Letter-To-%E2%80%9CHis-Excellency%E2%80%9D-Gianni-Infantino-The-Incumbent-President-of-FIFA

    In 2006, FIFA officially announced their Say No to Racism campaign in which they released large banners before matches at the World Cup that simply said, “Say No to Racism.” …..

    My taking the liberty of writing to you was prompted by Monday evening’s European Region Group G qualifying match between Italy and Israel which happens to be in the Middle East and not in Europe. FIFA’s apparent confusion over Israel’s geographical location is also shared by that other august — and equally rife with corruption and hypocrisy — footballing authority, EUFA, which for the same inexplicable reason also facilitates Israel’s participation in the European Championship.

    This made me wonder what Israel had done — apart from its usual modus operandi of blackmail, bribery, bullying, and exploitation of the Holocaust with a well organised and financed “Holocaust Industry” — to warrant being allowed participation in an international football tournament organised by FIFA which while claiming to be opposed to racism, is apparently prepared to tolerate, without the slightest compunction, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. I am sure you can understand how someone like myself — who has neither your highly intelligent and principled regard for humanity nor large amounts of money unobtrusively accumulating interest in Swiss bank accounts — is bewildered by such an obviously blatant contradiction. Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t ethnic cleansing with its crimes of genocide and mass atrocity constitute a very extreme form of racism?…..

  251. @Dahlia

    Some chicks have grabbed my ass over the years. Does that count for anything? Didn’t think so.
     
    I did this a time or two in high school without consent. Sometimes just ran up and slapped, too.
    I laughed. My friends laughed. The guy laughed. It all seemed like fun and games, but now I know The Truth.
    On behalf of those girls/women, please accept my apologies.

    Lol. Thanks.

    Actually, I wan’t really complaining…

  252. @BB753
    It's the most cited website for insider Hollywood gossip. Many of the rumors they mention end up being mainstream headlines.

    Most of the substantive stuff seems to come from the host and the contributor/commenter named, “Himmmm”. It seems like one of them might have some kind of lawyer-ish connection, which is a little strange since attorney-client privilege is supposed to make all these communications secret, even to the grave and beyond, but maybe the subjects were not his clients, or maybe he is more a law enforcement type, who tend to share information inside the first responder circle. For instance, the Don Henley blind seemed to have some first-hand POV from the paramedics.

    How wide do you think this readership is?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Pretty wide I guess for a blog.
  253. @Almost Missouri
    Most of the substantive stuff seems to come from the host and the contributor/commenter named, "Himmmm". It seems like one of them might have some kind of lawyer-ish connection, which is a little strange since attorney-client privilege is supposed to make all these communications secret, even to the grave and beyond, but maybe the subjects were not his clients, or maybe he is more a law enforcement type, who tend to share information inside the first responder circle. For instance, the Don Henley blind seemed to have some first-hand POV from the paramedics.

    How wide do you think this readership is?

    Pretty wide I guess for a blog.

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