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For some reason, Social Justice Jihadis obsess over baked goods. Oberlin College set its student-goons on the warpath against a neighborhood bakery, but now is paying the price. From the Miami (OH) Herald in 2017:

… The dispute, which began in November 2016 with the arrest of three black Oberlin students who tried stealing wine from Gibson’s [Bakery], is now a lawsuit in which the exasperated bakery owners accuse the college and a top dean of slandering Gibson’s as a “racist establishment” and taking steps to destroy the family’s livelihood. …

The three students were arrested after punching and kicking the white shopkeeper. The 18- and 19-year-old students said that they were racially profiled and that their only crime was trying to buy alcohol with fake identification; the shopkeeper, Allyn Gibson, said the students attacked him after he caught them trying to steal bottles of wine. …

On Nov. 7, the Gibsons sued Oberlin and Meredith Raimondo, vice president and dean of students, for slander, accusing faculty members of encouraging demonstrations against the bakery by suspending classes, distributing flyers, and supplying protesters with free food and drink.

It says Raimondo took part in the demonstration against Gibson’s with a bullhorn and distributed a flyer that said the bakery is a “RACIST establishment with a LONG ACCOUNT of RACIAL PROFILING and DISCRIMINATION.”

From Cleveland.com today:

Gibson’s Bakery awarded more than $11 million in years-long legal battle with Oberlin College
Posted Jun 7, 10:11 PM

By Emily Bamforth, cleveland.com

ELYRIA, Ohio — Gibson’s Bakery won more than $11 million from Oberlin College Friday in a lawsuit stemming from protests outside the College Street business in November 2016. …

The students pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in August 2017, reading statements into the record that Gibson was within his rights to detain the robber and that the conflict was not racially motivated.

 
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  1. For some reason, Social Justice Jihadis obsess over baked goods.

    They would have fewer problems if they would reduce the starches and sugars in their diets.

  2. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:

    And who is Meredith Raimondo?

    Unz readers will, of course, first wish to know what pronouns to use: (she/her/hers)

    Ms. Raimondo “will lead Oberlin’s Division of Student Life that supports students by creating more seamless connections between curricular and cocurricular experiences.” Don’t you just hate it when curricular and cocurricular experiences are not seamlessly connected?

    Inevitably, before her elevation to the deanship, Raimondo “served as special assistant to the president for equity, inclusion, and diversity and Title IX coordinator.”

    Raimondo also shines as a teacher, having “taught courses spanning the themes of gender and sexuality, race and ethnicity studies, social justice, and HIV/AIDS. ”

    https://www.oberlin.edu/meredith-raimondo

  3. Neoconned says:

    Friend of mine is from the San Diego area. She owns with her husband a few small to medium sized shopping plazas & apartment buildings near New Orleans. She told me she left California because she got tired of being sued.

    As she puts it “in California they sue you for every f***in thing”….her solution was to over-insure herself with umbrella liability insurance…..sure hope Oberlin has a policy (ies) like this because if low end strip mall owners and Section 8 slumlords can anticipate litigation I hope a college would be smart enough to as well.i

  4. Anonymous[840] • Disclaimer says:

    Reminds me of an old joke by that late great British impressionist/comedian Mike Yarwood, made back in the mid 1970s concerning the then British ‘Chancellor of the Exchequer’, (finance minister), Denis Healey, and the swingeing tax increases he imposed as part of the IMF bail out settlement.

    Healey insisted that all the ‘jelly babies’ , (an old fashioned British chewable gelatine candy made in the shape of babies), purchased for official purposes – as tea trolley side dishes, for example, had to be male. When accused of ‘sexual discrimination’, Healey justified his decision by snapping his fingers and declaring “Ahhh, but you get *that* much more jelly baby for your pound”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  5. Bill P says:

    I’m sure there will be an appeal, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Oberlin won it.

    However, the era of black entitlement triumphalism is going to draw to a close, decrepit white liberal dinosaur judges notwithstanding. Non-black minorities are not going to give them a break — far from it. The eternal black victim thing only works on traditional white Protestants, and they are a dwindling minority that is literally dying off.

    Nobody is going to defend black misbehavior when these people are dead and gone.

    Here I am, long-term isteve reader who fully embraces the concept of human biodiversity, and when I talk to immigrants who are shocked by black behavior, I’m the one who’s defending the blacks. Not because they will be just like us with a little extra effort (everyone knows that’s a crock), but because they are God’s children and they are fundamentally moral people despite it being difficult for many of them in this confusing modern society to figure out how to act as such.

  6. JackOH says:

    Well, I haven’t followed the details of this case, but I’m delighted the bakery took on Oberlin–and won. The bakery ought to pursue collection hard.

    I’m aware of the damage that our profoundly arrogant and untrustworthy universities can cause, so I’m glad to see one of them get its comeuppance.

    Solutions? Strong provosts, strong university legal counsel, strong trustees.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  7. I think the thing with baked goods is that they are almost always small businesses, and usually get a more visceral effect, which is to say, the owner’s grovelling apology.

    But I say, good for the plaintiffs. However it won’t go away until states and the fed. gov’t start imposing sanctions on this type of crap.

    Texas A&M U. used to be a conservation school, but now it’s just another have assed liberal state school. But we elect these people, or at least, the people who appoint the regents. Until we put a foot in their ass, and aren’t scarred to say ‘screw you’, when the’ll complain about bias, it’s what we’re stuck with. I get that college jobs are disproprionately sought after by liberals, but 50 years ago or so, many liberal arts departments were as high as 1/3 right leaning. Now, it’s virtually none.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  8. Paul says:

    Meredith Raimondo needs to be fired. What kind message does it send that such a slimy, hideous person (and I am not referring to her weight) should be in charge of educating young people? Everyone should email Oberlin College saying that she should be fired.

  9. dearieme says:
    @Bill P

    fundamentally moral people

    I don’t know about that but I do know that it would be wise to treat them as moral agents.

  10. Wanna bet those white-bread racists popped a cork for this occasion.

    • Replies: @Ragno
  11. @Anonymous

    Do you have to be British just to like these jelly babies, or to get this joke too? Haribos are the gummies of choice here in America.

  12. @dearieme

    Well put. They’re also fellow Americans, many of which have been here longer, ancestor-wise, than many of us have.

  13. Icy Blast says:
    @Desiderius

    Oh my goodness Desiderius! I can feel your shining moral excellence through the computer screen! Please share your holiness with us. (I personally have a DVD of “Brian’s Song” and a complete boxed set of “Room 222.”)

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  14. Barnard says:
    @Neoconned

    Oberlin could raise $11 million from their crazy alumni to pay this off in less than a day.

  15. @Neoconned

    Lawsuits by greedy American BMW-driving ambulance chasers have been a big factor in the view of foreign lands as better places to manufacture and do other business in other countries. I know California is one of the worst place in America to do business because of taxes, regulation, and lawsuits. I am no fan of lawyers. When it comes to this cultural war, it seems like fighting back with lawyers seems to be the only way though, short of violence.

    For VDare, that means, it’s been impossible even to be able to have a meeting in a private place of business, in this case a hotel in Colorado Springs, without it being cancelled due to the business caving due to political pressure. Now, the businesses in question owe money per the contract for these cancellations, so that seems all legal eagle, but just annoying … The latest one had the CS mayor telling VDare they would not get protection from the police if demonstrators (expected to be there) cause trouble. They apparently would like to be their own Charlottesville.

    Peter Brimelow has got a lawsuit against the mayor of Colorado Springs that is said by VDare’s hired (some volunteer) lawyers to be an open-and-shut case. I wish them much luck in this.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @FPD72
  16. @Bill P

    Well, Bill, sounds like you learned your Sunday school lessons well. Hope you paid as close attention during your math and science courses.

  17. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    Raimondo also shines as a teacher, having “taught courses spanning the themes of gender and sexuality, race and ethnicity studies, social justice, and HIV/AIDS. ”

    Raimondo is another useless asshole who lives off the stupidity of dumbass shitlibs. Not one of the classes listed is worthy of being taught anywhere let alone college.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @dr kill
  18. There’s something about “Raimondo” that means troublemaker. Is that it’s Spanish translation? I am just thinking of AntiWar’s Justin Raimondo, who may be a good guy (haven’t read much by him), but strikes me as an Anti-American Commie just from the sound of that.

    … distributed a flyer that said the bakery is a “RACIST establishment with a LONG ACCOUNT of RACIAL PROFILING and DISCRIMINATION.”

    Because that 3rd accusation is against the law (shouldn’t be, but IS), I see every reason for this suit. It is slander or libel, one. I do remember this case from 3 years back, and anything to get some of the University-bubble money is getting back nothing more than your future tax payments*. Good on ’em.

    As far as the charge of being “RACIST”, that’s no legal term, and probably a reason, were I in the area, I would step in for a Black & White cookie … just to see if we, vanilla and chocolate, can all get along … in my gut:

    Haha, you could never do this un-PC humor today – NO WAY! How far we have fallen in 25 years.

    .

    * $1,500,000,000,000 with a bullet, is the amount of outstanding student loan debt, and it will not all end up getting paid by the students. Your future withholding out of your paychecks will help, thankyouverymuch.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Roger
  19. @Desiderius

    “They’re also fellow Americans…”,

    Not really. Their first loyalty is to their race, not to America in general. Most have no clue as to the content of say, the Bill of Rights; what they are, their significance in history and why they are an indispensable part of the American experience. Polls have shown that most would, in fact, disagree with almost all of them. Blacks are no lovers of freedom, except freedom from work and free access to goodies produced by white civilization.

    “many of which have been here longer, ancestor-wise, than many of us have.”

    That they have “been here longer” is utterly irrelevant. What counts is one’s commitment to America’s core values. The black jurors in the O.J. trial proved that they have little use for those. They are simply incapable of understanding how and why upholding the value of fairness is necessary.

  20. anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Legal Insurrection blog, written by a law Prof. from Cornell, has been following this closely and writing about it from the beginning (at one point attorneys for Oberlin, in typical Kollege Kommunist fashion, tried to subpoena any emails, etc. he had about the controversy…later backed off). Raimundo does appear to been an instigator, and my guess is her days at Oberlin are numbered, and not a big number, either.

  21. @JackOH

    Yeah, good for Gibson’s! Until colleges start feeling some financial pain, they’re not going to lower the boom on the “social justice” BS. Oberlin may get the award reduced on appeal, but with all the legal bills, I’m confident that their cost will be well into the millions no matter what the judicial outcome. I wish more victims of social justice jihadis would take the Gibson’s route.

    This would be a golden moment for alumni, students and faculty to write into the Oberlin administration and ask why fake academic Meredith Raimondo is allowed to cost the college so much money, not even counting her (certainly overinflated and unjustifiable) salary and poisoned community relations. She should be terminated with extreme prejudice and the administration should know it.

    BTW, I was in Oberlin after this original event had happened, and made a point of visiting the “bakery”, which is really more of a general store, where I spoke with one of the owners and expressed my sympathies. He seemed depressed and fatigued, but said they were holding on as a business. I hope this award will help them. I bought some stuff I didn’t need to help support them.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  22. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    She manages to look like a trannie without actually being one (I think?) . She could also stand to lay off the baked goods. The bio omits to list how many cats she lives with.

    Anyway, white women like her are the real problem. Blacks have been behaving like blacks since forever but white women used to support the “white” team and didn’t used to demonstrate for the right of black people to shoplift at white owned establishments.

  23. Punch back twice as hard.

  24. Tiny Duck says:

    This will be overturned on appeal. That award is way too much and the college did nothing wrong in protecting the marginalized community

    By the way you morons are about to push out David French me of the most attic image and moral right wing voices from the Republican Party

    Read Adam Serwer

    • Replies: @TWS
  25. I wonder why Oberlin hasn’t joined the thousands of other American institutions of higher learning in their recent pretentious shifts from College to “University” status.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Art Deco
  26. @Jack D

    Is that a tattoo on her upper left arm ? Is there’s a county fair near Oberlin every fall with a hootchie cootchie tent show?

  27. @Bill P

    I’m sure there will be an appeal, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Oberlin won it.

    Agreed, and while it’s heartening to see a corrupt institution like Oberlin take a hit, you know their pockets are almost infinitely deeper than the bakery’s. Oberlin is a fairly rich college.

    Meanwhile I fully expect that the online sjw troll army are busy doxxing the jury members.

    BTW: Oberlin College president

    https://www.oberlin.edu/carmen-twillie-ambar

  28. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

    Normal people take normal jobs. Abnormal people, like Raimondo, find abnormal jobs where they find the authority to get the wheel and drive things over a cliff.

  29. Thea says:
    @Jack D

    Indeed. Lots of ugly people are perfectly nice and it’s a good thing as thee are so many of them.

    Too much money and leisure created this. She has likely never done an ounce of true work. Not her student activists who spend 4 years going to class, sleeping, getting drunk and protesting. The same four years people used to spend establishing a career or starting a family.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  30. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:

    It says Raimondo took part in the demonstration against Gibson’s with a bullhorn and distributed a flyer that said the bakery is a “RACIST establishment with a LONG ACCOUNT of RACIAL PROFILING and DISCRIMINATION.”

    It’s the two brownshirts with powerful jawlines, guarding the entrance with clipboards, truncheons and a Wolfshund that gave it away.

    After the students were arrested, student protests erupted, claiming that the robbery charge and physical conflict were racially motivated. Protestors urged patrons to shop elsewhere.

    The protests became so large that Oberlin’s police chief testified that he was considering pulling in the county’s riot team, according to the Chronicle-Telegram. The divide was covered by national media outlets, including the Associated Press and CBS.

    Do these “students” have anything to do? I mean, math isn’t easy, right? There is bound to be homework.

    The lawsuit claimed that Raimondo handed out flyers calling Gibson’s racist and spoke into a bullhorn at the protests. The suit also said other professors participated.

    Who are those people? Who gives them the right to do any of that? Do they rile themselves up against private business during in the teachers’ lounge while reading “The Little Antifascist Monthly”? Hello!!

    Oberlin spokesman Scott Wargo wrote in an email that the college has no comment on the verdict.

    Liberal Arts Colleges are not good at writing statements.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Known Fact
  31. @Neoconned

    “…Oberlin has a policy …”

    They have gullible alumni and future students.

  32. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:

    This says enough:
    https://images.app.goo.gl/ZqzkpkyJuDbSKPtu9

    Last week I listened to TN Coates’ masterwork – Between the World and Me – as read by the author.

    A few observations:
    – He is unable and unwilling to pronounce the word “ask” as it is written.
    – The book is incredibly repetitive and fact-free. He keeps talking about fear of disembodiment without any regard for any facts on the ground.
    – His central thesis – living with People Who Think They Are White makes Black Bodies unsafe – rests on three stories:
    1) A black kid pointing a gun at his 11 year old body
    2) A passing acquaintance from Howard University who was shot by an undercover cop – also black
    3) Elaine Benes shoving his son after she tripped over him coming off the 3 story escalator at the Loew’s on the UWS.

    It really reads like a bad college entrance essay for Howard University (from which he failed out).

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @anonymous
  33. Ragno says:
    @The Alarmist

    Let’s hope so. Let’s hope they threw a right raucous N-word jamboree, with live bands, floats, and a minstrel show.

  34. Art Deco says:

    What needs to happen is for administrators to lose their houses for bad conduct under the color of their employment. Until you hold faculty and administrators responsible personally, this is just part of the cost of doing business as far as they’re concerned.

    State legislatures can address this matter, but Democratic legislators are agents of their various clients (esp higher ed) and Republican legislators alternate between business-as-usual on the one hand and gimmicks on the other, accomplishing nothing.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  35. @Neoconned

    According to the Legal Insurrection blog, the punitive damages could be as high as $33 million, and are unlikely to be covered by insurance.

    Oberlin could even be stiffed on the $11 million if the insurers argue that deliberate malfeasance happened. And that is quite likely given Raimondo’s emails and texts (eg threatening to “unleash the students” ).

  36. @Paul

    Not going to happen.

    Oberlin will just slap another $5,000 onto tuition, and the students will pay.

    The president of Evegreen State College (George Bridges) is still there, despite a collapse in enrollment. College administrators are almost bulletproof.

  37. Art Deco says:
    @dearieme

    The students in question are almost certainly drawn from the bourgeoisie or the skilled working class and aren’t lacking for the ability to make moral decisions. Most people from those same matrices manage their daily lives passably.

    Right now though, the youths in question live in a matrix where people give them positive feedback for being unscrupulous, obnoxious and stupid. This has three dimensions: vernacular black culture, wherein an abstract hostility to the rest of the world (not typically to flesh-and-blood people in that world) is part of the atmosphere; administrative-class black culture, wherein you have propagated social myths about fictions like ‘institutional racism’; and progtrash white culture, where the same myths are promoted. The cultural messaging reduces inhibitions contra shoplifting while the shame-culture prevalent among blacks from all walks of life is manifested in an oddly political idiom.

    You can’t do much about culture directly. What you can do is enforce the law without remission or apology, and hope that practical considerations defeat culture. And, of course, people in gatekeeper positions can fire subordinates who promote shame-culture display (w or w/0 a political idiom) in lieu of an acknowledgement of personal agency. Of course, that would require those in gatekeeper positions to be those who believe in personal agency rather than in distributing privileges to their preferred clientele. What’s weird in our own time is that in higher ed, the priority task is distributing privileges to mascot groups. Everything else takes a back seat. This wasn’t so 35 years ago.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @HA
    , @Anonymous
  38. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:

    I had to go back and check my facts about that Loew’s movie theater escalator that rocked TN Coates’ world and almost got him arrested. It’s an AMC now and, I was correct, it’s a 3 story escalator. Finally, it’s not like bad things don’t happen on big escalators, specifically this one:

    https://nypost.com/2005/01/14/stairway-to-hell-kids-hurt-in-escalator-nightmare-at-movies/

    I would guess this likely happened before his son “dawdled” (his word) at the bottom. Perhaps Elaine Benes was aware of this.

  39. @Paul

    Private college, so they can ignore the public.

  40. @Desiderius

    The American herd is overdue for a culling.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  41. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    Meredith Raimondo was held liable on the libel and interference with business relations, but not intentional infliction of emotional distress. By stipulation, the college is responsible for any amounts awarded against her, so she will not pay anything out of pocket.

    Damn!

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/verdict-jury-awards-gibsons-bakery-11-million-against-oberlin-college/

    Legal Insurrection has been on this from day 1, and had a reporter in the courtroom. They have video.

  42. ia says:
    @Bill P

    but because they are God’s children

    Self-righteous Christians are more interested in saving souls than saving culture.

  43. bomag says:
    @Neoconned

    sure hope Oberlin has a policy (ies) like this

    So other policy holders help foot the bill? Not so great.

    The individuals involved should face consequences.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  44. To make this really sting, what needs to happen is to start siphoning some of the proceeds from such lawsuits into “community organizations” that represent the victims of these actions, in this case white people, to be used for further advocacy. This is what the left does and why there are organizations such as SPLC with millions of dollars that can be leveraged. It will also have the effect of rubbing salt in the wound because that is absolutely the last thing the liberals want to happen. Imagine the reaction if $1,000,000 of the $11,000,000 went to American Renaissance or Vdare. You can guarantee that it would not happen again. Kick them in the balls and they will remember it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  45. @Neoconned

    These are all intentional torts. Can you get insurance that covers intentional torts?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Autochthon
  46. @Anonymous

    what pronouns to use: (she/her/hers)

    Am I right to consider that redundant, or can someone claim a heterogeneous set of pronouns like she/him/theirs?

  47. Nice to know good people can still win every once in a blue moon.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @ben tillman
  48. Wilkey says:
    @Jack D

    One of her pictures shows her in a sleeveless with a nice tattoo. Can’t make out what the tattoo is supposed to be. Seems like a real classy lady.

    I searched for Gibson’s Bakery on the Oberlin website. Despite their “Recent News” page having been updated just yesterday, shockingly there is no mention of the witch hunt by Oberlin or the trial verdict. There apparently is only a single official article on Oberlin’s site mentioning the case, and it’s basically a press release repeating the college’s own claims.

    Of course it’s important that we in society do everything we can to crush these all-powerful bakeries with their rich-ass owners and their 0.00002% market shares that they use to crush the little guy. Thank God we have middle-class Peoples of Color and Diversitude like Jeff Bezos, Bob Iger, Tim Cook, and Mark Zuckerberg on our side to help do that.

  49. By the way, like Texas, Ohio is a state where defamation law makes truth an affirmative defense, i.e., the defendants have to prove the truth of their statements rather than the plaintiffs proving falsity.

    • Replies: @Yngvar
  50. Wilkey says:

    Punitive damages, which could triple the amount, have yet to be determined, and Legal Insurrection states that Oberlin’s insurer, Lexington Insurance Company, will probably refuse to cover the damages as they were intentional. Oberlin’s endowment, according to Wikipedia, is about $880 million. So a $33 million verdict not covered by insurance would be a significant portion (3.75%) of their financial assets.

    But of course Oberlin will almost certainly appeal. This could get even more interesting.

  51. @ben tillman

    The counts that went to the jury:

    Count 1: Libel
    Count 3: Tortious Interference with Business Relationships
    Count 4: Tortious Interference with Contracts
    Count 6: Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress

  52. Flip says:
    @Desiderius

    Thomas Jefferson on black Americans.

    “Whatever be their degree of talent it is no measure of their rights. Because Sir Isaac Newton was superior to others in understanding, he was not therefore lord of the person or property of others.”

  53. In case anyone is interested, the website Legal Insurrection has had a reporter observing every day of the trial. The reports are linked to at
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/verdict-jury-awards-gibsons-bakery-11-million-against-oberlin-college/#more-285569

    • Replies: @HA
  54. It’s been over fifty years without the desired result.

    Why not allow racial discrimination by retail establishments again?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  55. Mr. Anon says:

    This is an example of Dean Raimondo’s “scholarship”:

    Dr. Raimondois an Assistant Professor of Comparative American Studies at Oberlin College. She is working on a manuscript which uses theoretical frameworks from media studies, cultural geography, and the history of public health explore representations of the geography of the AIDS epidemic in the United States. It traces the contours and shifting scale of narratives that track the gendered and racialized movement of HIV around the globe and within the nation, from research into its “origin” to its movement in rural areas. In addition, Dr. Raimondo is working on an essay which analyzes photographs of President Bush’s 2002 trip to five African nations to think through human rights and the militarization of global health discourse.

    https://www.utmb.edu/imh/about/visiting-scholars/scholar-announcements/2005/09/01/meet-dr.-meredith-raimondo

    In short, the usual pretentious po-mo word-salad. Meredith Raimondo’s life’s work is worthless crap. Whole departments are built on this garbage. Universities today are a racket – extracting money from taxpayers to feed the egos of useless people like this Raimondo woman. It would be better to just burn the money rather than spending it in this way.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  56. Mr. Anon says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, good for Gibson’s! Until colleges start feeling some financial pain, they’re not going to lower the boom on the “social justice” BS. Oberlin may get the award reduced on appeal, but with all the legal bills, I’m confident that their cost will be well into the millions no matter what the judicial outcome.

    It would be funny if the award was increased on appeal. I guess that never happens, but it would be a nice outcome.

    • Replies: @res
  57. Ohio must still have vestiges of civilisation.

    I once lawfully detained a brown thief in Mexinchifornia.

    I was cited for assault.

    (I was not prosecuted, but neither was the thief – he wasn’t even cited.)

    Go figure.

  58. JackOH says:
    @Almost Missouri

    AM, thanks, and you’re hitting the marks, too, with that ” . . . fake academic . . . allowed to cost the college so much money.”

    I think there’d be some surprise among the public about how some universities have been turned into crap institutions by corrupt and incompetent trustees, self-serving patronage hacks, occasional faculty and support union thuggery, lay-about department chairs and senior profs who squelch genuine scholarship, ideologically motivated gamesmen, and on.

    I’ve been told more or less directly by local profs that they know their best efforts are neither expected nor appreciated, so they’ve learned to go through the motions until retirement or there’s an opening elsewhere.

  59. bucky says:
    @Jack D

    No, just no. White women like her are not the real problem. Saying so is just a way to cuck.

    The real problem are blacks, plain and simple. Blacks simply do not have any moral imagination beyond blaming everyone else in society for racism, never taking responsibility, and feeling entitled to harm others.

    White women like her certainly react to prevailing trends. They don’t truly challenge power. They conform to power, as women have throughout history.

  60. https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/05/gibsons-bakery-v-oberlin-college-trial-day-6-whats-a-bakery-worth/

    “The Grape,” a student-written monthly school magazine, explored the student shoplifting dilemma in Oberlin called “The Culture of Theft” in the December 2017 issue. They found that shoplifting was down significantly in the summer months at businesses in Oberlin because the students were mostly gone. The magazine has not been listed as evidence, and is merely included here because of it seems to have hit the mark pretty well.

    One student, anonymously quoted in the story, described stealing pasta noodles from Gibson’s twice. “It wasn’t expensive and I felt like it … I just preferred not paying for it but I could have.”

    Krista Long, owner of a Ben Franklin’s store (books and other student needs) on the town square near Gibson’s, told the writer of the story that she was losing about $10,000 a year in shoplifting theft each year.

    “While it may be tempting to think that the owners of local stores are pocketing tons of wealth, this simply isn’t true. Every day presents challenges … Theft is demoralizing to us, making us feel that we should suspect the very customers we want to serve.”

    And if you want to know how bad the shoplifting issue is in Oberlin, just read what the student author, Jake Bernstein, wrote in his closing paragraph about the Oberlin student theft problem: “I myself have stolen from the very people I interviewed for this story.”

  61. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    They invested in a ‘Department of Comparative American Studies’, which is a nonsense discipline. They’re a school which is completely devoted to academics and the arts. If they had a faculty of ordinary dimensions (given their enrollment), a student body with a typical distribution of preferences, and faculty positions distributed according to student interest, they’d have the following departments:

    1. In performance: studio art, music, theatre and dance, and film and photography

    2, In pure academics: biology, psychology, English, speech communication / rhetoric, political science, economics, history, sociology, anthropology, computer science, mathematics, chemistry.

    Disciplines where you might or might not have a critical mass of interest: Spanish, philosophy, creative writing, geology, physics.

    Raimondo’s dissertation was on the subject of ““The Next Wave: Media Maps of the ‘Spread of AIDS.’”

    She’s been in the news before

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/oberlin-tries-to-get-gender-bias-lawsuit-dismissed-bizarrely-by-noting-title-ix-officials-bias/

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/04/14/oberlin-backs-down-trigger-warnings-professors-who-teach-sensitive-material

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  62. @International Jew

    … can someone claim a heterogeneous set of pronouns like she/him/theirs?

    Yeah, someones who identifies as a socialist might use he/him/ours.

  63. @ben tillman

    Generally, speaking, no; most insurers have the good sense to exclude such acts from coverage, the same way they exclude suicide from coverage for life insurance.

    As a matter of law, though, I’m not as sure. On the one hand, freedom of contract is pretty (stupidly) sacrosanct in the U.S.A., so insurers may he free to cover all kinds of stupid shit, even when it is against their own interests to do so – but then, too, I should think most legislatures and courts would deem insurance for intentional torts as being against public policy and perhaps therefore illegal and invalid.

    Insurance for malpractice is a good analogue: it generally protects the insured from his own negligence (i.e., mistakes from carelessness) but not from his acts which rise to the level of intentional behaviour.

    TL;DR: I bet in most if not all states that no; no, you cannot insure yourself against liability for your own intentional torts. Else bad but clever people with sufficient funds would take out insurance policies then do all kinds of malevolent shit.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  64. @ben tillman

    It is unspeakably offensive that these entitled rich kids are habitually stealing from local merchants.

    Annual Prices
    The annual list price to attend Oberlin College on a full time basis for 2017/2018 is $71,330 for all students regardless of their residency. This fee is comprised of $52,762 for tuition, $15,212 room and board, $1,958 for books and supplies and $698 for other fees. Out of state tuition for Oberlin College is $52,762, the same as Ohio residents.https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/ohio/oberlin-college/price/

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  65. Art Deco says:
    @bucky

    Blacks simply do not have any moral imagination beyond blaming everyone else in society for racism, never taking responsibility, and feeling entitled to harm others.

    Three clowns who’ve been listening to people like Meredith Raimondo committed an act of petit larceny and then lied about it (as criminals often do). It isn’t that indicative of some larger point.

  66. Art Deco says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    There are rich kids at places like Oberlin, but they don’t dominate demographically because there aren’t that many rich kids in any given cohort. Those schools recruit from the professional-managerial class, who are much more numerous. (At the place I know best, about 2/3 of the student body qualified for some sort of financial aid). The Oberlin grad in my circle of friends is the daughter of an engineer.

  67. Art Deco says:
    @Autochthon

    On the one hand, freedom of contract is pretty (stupidly) sacrosanct in the U.S.A

    ROTFL

    so insurers may he free to cover all kinds of stupid shit, even when it is against their own interests to do so

    I’m betting their actuaries understand what it’s prudent to cover better than do legislatures.

    AIG was brought down not by it’s insurance business, but when it allowed a small office in London to engage in trading in credit default swaps.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  68. @ben tillman

    Surely (((Jake Berstein))) has been arrested (or, at least, cited) as he must be in any sane society for having admitted to being a criminal. No? Ah, yes; the business about sanity….

  69. @Art Deco

    I take your laughter as deserved chastening for the draconian lack of freedom contract vis-a-vis anything related to freedom of association if race, gender, nationality, religion, and other per causes of GloboHomo be implicated, which I hereby duly acknowledge.

    I should have clarified that the F.U.S.A. allows all manner of shady contracts if the goal be luchre; of course it frowns upon those meant to encourage the preservation of a civil society.

  70. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prof. Woland

    A better approach would be for a billionaire to pay the plaintiffs legal costs and pay them an amount equal to their possible take from the lawsuit. Then have the plaintiffs sue just, for instance in this case, Raimondo, not the school. The school is rich and nobody really cares if they lose. But if only the administrator is sued, she would have to pay her legal fees plus any judgment. The school could not cover that. This way, an individual would be financially destroyed. The billionaire could even finance an aggressive collection agency to work the judgment for decades. Once it gets around that individual administrators and professors can be held responsible, their behavior may change.

  71. Anon[480] • Disclaimer says:

    The jury should have awarded more. Oberlin can cough up a lot more than 11 million. They should have been forced to provide extra for emotional damages.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  72. Anon[480] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Obsessed woman with the bad judgment of the obsessed gets everybody into trouble and makes a bad situation worse. What else is new.

  73. Anon[480] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    This is why women should not be running important things. How many power-hungry women with awful judgement have we seen on the political scene lately? Angela Merkel, Teresa May, Hillary Clinton, AOC, Illan Omar, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and that dingbat Australian Jacinda Ardern, she of the bizarre kissy-kissy Islam act, who just turned 300,000 gunowners into criminals subject to fines and prosecution just for wanting to keep their property and be left alone.

    All of these women have been promoted beyond their level of competence, and they have no clue about it.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  74. Anon[480] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oddly enough, the nastiest female thug I’ve ever met had the last name of Raimondo. I think it’s low-class Italian.

  75. Hibernian says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    reverse snobbery or lack of graduate programs is my guess.

  76. 95Theses says:

    Wish I had been on that jury. I’d have been urging on my fellow jurors to award a helluva lot more that $11 million. Maybe even add another zero onto the end of that figure.

    Put a thick layer of vanilla icing on that chocolate cake. Cha-ching!

  77. Anon[480] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting. More negative stuff about Meredith Raimondo is available online. She has been accused to using works by anti-Semitic authors in her classes and creating a hostile environment for Jewish students.

    http://www.thetower.org/3205-new-controversy-swirls-at-oberlin-around-appointment-of-interim-dean-of-students/

    “According to several online syllabi, Raimondo’s classes feature readings from academics including Joseph Massad, Lisa Duggan, Judith Butler, and Jasbir Puar. As Andrew Pessin indicated in The Algemeiner, all of these academics have previously been accused of espousing views that are intolerant of Israel and Jews.”

    “These sentiments were echoed in 2014 by another Oberlin student, who wrote in the Jewish Exponent that the “toxic climate at Oberlin around Israel” contributed to her decision to transfer from the school. The previous year, two other Oberlin students wrote in their student newspaper that “Anti-Israel and anti-Zionist rhetoric is not only accepted; it is expected. Obies who speak in support of Israel and/or Zionism are quickly silenced with the stifling label of ‘oppressor,’ before anyone bothers to ask why they hold the opinions they do.”

    She’s also trigger-warner in chief, being the author of the college’s trigger warning policies.

    “As co-chairwoman of a task force charged with revamping Oberlin’s Sexual Offense Resource Guide, Raimondo helped draft an extensive, non-mandatory policy in 2014 that called on faculty use trigger warnings in their lessons. ‘Anything could be a trigger—a smell, song, scene, phrase, place, person, and so on,” the guide read. “Triggers are not only relevant to sexual misconduct, but also to anything that might cause trauma. Be aware of racism, classism, sexism, heterosexism, cissexism, ableism and other issues of privilege and oppression.” It also instructed professors to “Remove triggering material when it does not contribute directly to the course learning goals.’”

    “The guide provoked a backlash from Oberlin’s faculty. “We need to … challenge students, to conduct open inquiry in classrooms, to make students feel uncomfortable,” political science professor Marc Blecher told the New Republic. “Making students feel uncomfortable is at the core of liberal arts education.”

    Raimondo can be summed in up that old-fashioned phrase, ‘annoying busybody.’ If she were in the military, they’d classify as the worst type of recruit, namely dumb and energetic. The latter do incredible damage to their own side.

    I suspect she was made dean to kick her upstairs and get her out of the classroom where she was doing serious damage, in lieu of firing her and getting slapped with a lawsuit by her. I suspect all the Jewish students were complaining to their parents and Daddy was no longer donating to Oberlin anymore. But it backfired badly on Oberlin.

  78. 95Theses says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Good for you. Whenever I hear that Chick-fil-A is in the news I always make a point of buying a sandwich there that day even if I’m not in the mood for chicken.

  79. 95Theses says:
    @jill

    Thanks for the link. Appreciated.

  80. Art Deco says:
    @Joe Magarac

    What ‘desired result’?

  81. Art Deco says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I think she was published in Environment & Planning D, Society & Space, a British journal which has been open to gruesome stupidity for 20+ years or more.

  82. @ben tillman

    In a sane world students would be expelled if caught stealing from local businesses. And the college would support the local business, not the thieves. The local businesses are the college’s neighbors, the thieves are just customers who will be gone in a couple of years.

  83. Art Deco says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    It’s a very particular sort of institution. It’s a teaching institution (common enough), strictly devoted to academics and the arts (not common), and somewhat antique. Changing the name would add static to its branding. There are several other institutions of that type in Ohio and perhaps 150 or so nationally. The use of ‘university’ is atypical, and the schools that do that commonly adopted that practice in the 19th century when you had quite stereotyped curricula. See Amherst College, Williams College, Swarthmore College, Hobart and William Smith Colleges, Haverford College, Vassar College, College of Wooster, &c.

  84. Art Deco says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I’m guessing it would have worked that way 60 years ago, or that the student would be taken aside by the Dean of Men and told once-more-and-you’re-out. Nowadays, the irritations suffered by local merchants are of no interest to the dean of students because they’re just deplorables and their value-scales are deemed ‘simplistic’. It might matter if their problems could be used to issue penalties to students outside the circle of mascots.

    Of course, there are some things you’re not supposed to make explicit.

    http://time.com/4785753/yale-dean-white-trash-yelp/

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  85. @Jack D

    SJWs target bakeries because they have contempt and mistrust for mom’n’pop stores, which represent the American spirit of DIY, hard work, and individuality.

    Conversely, SJWs worship at the feet of large corporations because of the way they promote conformity through slogans about diversity.

    Corporations are the new churches; small businesses are new heretics.

    PS: I think this ties into something I read on this very blog a while back — that white culture is more accepting of non-conformity than minority cultures.

  86. Notwithstanding the merits of this case, such awards are often more symbolic than anything else. No way this bakery will ever see $11M. The case will be appealed and the process could be drawn out. In the interim both sides will negotiate off of that number as it is the prudent way of doing business (law is like any other business-it’s subject to the Bottom Line). What this case will settle for in the end is anyone’s guess.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  87. Wilkey says:

    As far as I can tell, Raimondo is still employed at Oberlin, even after all of this – unless they just haven’t updated their website yet.

    The evidence against Raimondo regarding her involvement in the affair is pretty damning. Perhaps yesterday’s ruling will spur them to terminate her, or perhaps Oberlin is all in on the SJW mission and intends to stand by her. If they don’t fire her I would have to imagine it would drive up the cost of their liability insurance and posing more legal problems down the road.

  88. Technomad says:

    I wonder—would Oberlin have gone so balls-to-the-wall if the student thieves had been white? I have my doubts on that. All they saw was blacks being accused (correctly) by whites, and their reflexes kicked in. Once that happened, they couldn’t back down without losing a lot of face.

  89. dr kill says:
    @Realist

    Man, sometimes it’s just that simple to tell the truth.

  90. Wilkey says:
    @Art Deco

    Nowadays, the irritations suffered by local merchants are of no interest to the dean of students because they’re just deplorables and their value-scales are deemed ‘simplistic’.

    The tuition at Oberlin may very well be more than what the bakery’s owners were earning each year. So yes, they probably were viewed as deplorables. Incidentally, this whole matter started literally the day after Trump won the 2016 election. So it almost certainly started as a big leftist temper tantrum over the election results.

    And the defense lawyer even seems to have kind of alluded to that during the trial, in a way, by pointing out that the only financial harm that mattered to the owners was the difference between what they were making and what they could have been making at some other job. ‘You don’t have to run your own bakery! You can go get a job as a WalMart cashier and earn almost as much!’

    Funny that such an argument never seems to be valid when someone is (allegedly) terminated for racial discrimination.

    Incidentally this whole matter literally started the day after Trump won the 2016 election.

  91. Dutch says:
    @Bill P

    Nope. Look up the origins of libel laws. They were literally a remedy for people being falsely accused of being in the KuKluxKlan. So if you call someone a racist without proof you are dead guilty of libel. It’s the literal definition of the law. Ive wondered why we haven’t seen more suits like this. But perhaps we will. People throw around the R word so casually these days. An $11 million settlement is going to get people thinking.

    What shouldn’t be lost in all this is that these laws are over 100 years old. Apparently SJWs running around calling everyone ‘racist’ is not as ‘progressive’ as they think. Just forgotten 19th century history as it turns out. But the price of a school, THAT TEACHES HISTORY, forgetting this ends turned out to be $11million. Forget the baked goods. THAT’S delicious!

  92. @Art Deco

    They invested in a ‘Department of Comparative American Studies’, which is a nonsense discipline.

    In the contrary, it is not a discipline at all. Nothing with “studies” in the title is.

    That’s why its adherents are so, well, undisciplined.

  93. Clyde says:

    I am very familiar with this case. I hope the bakery collects the full 11 million but there will be appeals. I think they will end up with 5 million one way or another. The idiots who run Oberlin should start doing business with them again as part of the settlement.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  94. @International Jew

    Am I right to consider that redundant, or can someone claim a heterogeneous set of pronouns like she/him/theirs?

    Linguist Gaston Dorren explains how the conversation

    She has nice legs.

    Yeah, he does.

    can be perfectly valid in Dutch:

  95. Clyde says:

    Oberlin has a very good endowment, almost one billion. They can afford to payout to the bakery, though maybe they have some insurance coverage too.

    Assets Under Management | Oberlin College and Conservatory
    https://www.oberlin.edu/investment/assets

    Endowed Funds Total endowed funds as of June 30, 2018 were $887.4 million
    , as compared to $820.3 million the previous year, an increase of $67.1 million. In comparison, total endowed funds increased Assets Under Management | Oberlin College and Conservatory

  96. Kyle says:

    The obsession with bakeries is that they are an extremely SWPL thing. In the industrial revolution sliced bread from the supermarket replaced the dedicated bakery. In the current year super markets even have quality in-store bakeries where you can buy artisan bread. There is no market anymore for a dedicated bakery, so in order to survive they have to cater to SWPL types of white people. Selling things like fancy decorated cup cakes, and stocking exclusive wine. SWPL people then assume that these store owners are liberal or progressive, when in fact most small business owners are conservative. The SWPL people are shocked to discover that owners are more interested in making money than they are in selling alcohol to minors with fake ID’s. It’s racist to hold a black body in captivity when all that black body was doing was trying to rip off a bottle of wine. It’s outrageous to them that a bakery would not want to display a wedding cake with two groom figurines on top. This leads to a sense of betrayal. It leads respectable people to self destructive behavior such as taking to the streets with a bullhorn and making a fool of themselves.

  97. @Icy Blast

    Kindly fuck yourself.

    Am I factually in error?

    The fight is Americans v. Globalists. Regular blacks are American.

  98. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    When I was an undergrad, our honor code covered all aspects of your day-to-day life, not just school.

    Shoplifting was an honor violation the same as was cheating on an exam. There was (still is, but its being challenged annually) only a “single sanction”, which was expulsion.

  99. @ThreeCranes

    Less capable is not incapable, depends how the incentives line up. For blacks that’s against the globalizers, who seek to replace them.

    Steve’s idea of D party as black party would have been nice, but that got wiped out by the the wokedammerung. Now it’s Americans against anti-Americans.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  100. @Art Deco

    Nice comment in general.

    progtrash

    This could have legs.

  101. @Anonymous

    The lawsuit claimed that Raimondo handed out flyers calling Gibson’s racist and spoke into a bullhorn at the protests. The suit also said other professors participated.

    A theater and dance professor named Roger Copeland came to the defense of Gibson’s in a letter to the editor critical of the school’s handling of the incident. Copeland, who has since retired, was in the courtroom and seemed ecstatic after the jury came back with their verdict.

    After Copeland’s critical letter to the editor, Ben Jones, the vice president of communications for the school, sent out a text message stating, “FUCK ROGER COPELAND.” Raimondo responded with a text stating, “Fuck him. I’d say unleash the students if I wasn’t convinced this needs to be put behind us.”

  102. @Achmed E. Newman

    The latest one had the CS mayor telling VDare they would not get protection from the police if demonstrators (expected to be there) cause trouble.

    You can’t violate the Equal Protection Clause more flagrantly than that.

  103. @Paul

    Yeah, agree with Jimmy and Redneck. Not going to happen.

    The thing is, there’s no such thing as a private college. They all get gov’t money in one form or another. And even with state schools professors, and more importantly administrators, are almost invulnerable to attack.

    An admin can be fired for not meeting fundraising goals, but to do so because the school is rampantly leftist, anarchist, antifa playground, would be called anti-intellectualism, anti-academic freedom, etc. in the press. Most public figures know the amount of shit they’d get for doing this, and I think that’s why it never gets done.

    Another thing is, people who went to college (even if they didn’t graduate) know that kooks have been working there for decades. The socialist political science professor has been a staple at them for many, many years. What people (taxpayers, parents) fail to get is that it’s not just one or two anymore, it’s the whole damn department. And if those same people can move over to administration, make the same money, not do research, not teach classes (or maybe one a semester) and have more power, why not do so?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  104. @Tired of Not Winning

    In addition to the Defendants being arrogant assholes, the plaintiffs had the further advantage of being able to call as their star witness a loyal black employee whom the Gibsons had invited to Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. That the school let this case go to a jury is mind-bogglingly arrogant.

  105. @Desiderius

    So what? My ancestors were in America in the 17th Century.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  106. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    In a sane world students would be expelled if caught stealing from local businesses. And the college would support the local business, not the thieves. The local businesses are the college’s neighbors, the thieves are just customers who will be gone in a couple of years.

    In Dallas, the Gibson’s analog would be Parkit Market, a couple blocks east of SMU.

    https://lakewood.advocatemag.com/2012/05/24/parkit-market-runs-in-the-family/

    The Todora family’s only been doing it since 1962 (it is Dallas), but it is *the* place to get a keg. Anyway, one of the Todoras is now an offensive lineman on the SMU football team, and he’s not the first of the family to attend the school. It just seems natural for the school and the surrounding community to be on the same team.

  107. Roger says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I could just as easily say that I don’t know you, but I have read a little bit of your writing (the comment above). Your name sounds like it could be Arabic. That means you might or might not be related to the terrorists who caused 9/11.

    What a silly statement for me to make! Just because you have an Arabic name doesn’t say anything at all about your character, your religion, your politics, or anything else. It is simply your name. You really ought to reconsider your actions concerning Justin Raimondo, about whom, by your own admission, you know nothing. I HAVE read a considerable amount by Raimondo and I am proud to say that I am in agreement with his analysis most of the time.

    My suggestion to you is that you actually learn about someone before you start slandering them. You’ll be a better person for it.

    For the record, “Raimondo is both an Italian given name and a surname. Its English equivalent is Raymond.” (https://www.definitions.net/definition/Raimondo) I didn’t spend a lot of time researching this, but found nothing at all about it connected with “troublemaking”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  108. @Neoconned

    I would imagine that NOLA is not without its drawbacks for property owners as well, being as vibrant as it is. Notice how vibrant rhymes with violent?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  109. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    You must be from a bygone era, GoBM. Colleges have armed robbers, rapists, even murderers walking around freely. Especially if they can play football. Do a web search on “Baylor football rape”, “Minnesota football rape”, or Vanderbilt, Boise State, etc. These dudes are minor leaguers.

  110. @David In TN

    So you have a strong claim to American citizenship and all the duties and benefits which flow from that, including a say in who else qualifies for citizenship. Many regular patriotic blacks share a similar claim.

    Illegals do not.

  111. @HammerJack

    Holy mothers of James Brown’s lost love children. She kinda of looks like Kim Foxx.

    https://www.cookcountystatesattorney.org/about/kimberly-foxx

  112. @Jack D

    Based on the ratty hair and yellow teeth, I’d wager her hygienic practices are also extremely suspect.

    And is that a tattoo I see on her upper left arm?

    Jesus, I went into the wrong line of work…

  113. HA says:
    @Art Deco

    “Right now though, the youths in question live in a matrix where people give them positive feedback for being unscrupulous, obnoxious and stupid.”

    This seems like a continuation of the centuries-old town vs. gown feud. I’m fairly sure plenty of locals far out in the sticks (near Cleveland, no less) have had it up to here with pampered liberal-arts Oberlin brats telling them what “progressive” means.

    Conflict was inevitable in the medieval university towns, where two separately governed bodies with different priorities and loyalties shared the same restricted space… Violent confrontations between town and gown erupted on a recurring basis. One of the most famous was the Battle of St. Scholastica Day, which occurred on 10 February 1355… An argument in a tavern – a familiar scenario – escalated into a protracted two-day battle in which local citizens armed with bows attacked the academic village, killing and maiming scores of scholars. The rioters were severely punished, and thenceforth, the Mayor and Bailiffs had to attend a Mass for the souls of the dead every St. Scholastica’s Day thereafter and to swear an annual oath to observe the university’s privileges. For 500 years, Oxford observed a day of mourning for that tragedy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  114. @HammerJack

    Oberlin is a fairly rich college.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberlin_College

    $887.4 million endowment as of 2018…incredible…

  115. bomag says:
    @bucky

    They conform to power, as women have throughout history.

    Women today have a wide range of options available, especially about what to believe. They should not be so susceptible to such evil.

    • Replies: @bucky
  116. HA says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Good find. From the link:

    Roger Copeland, a retired Oberlin College professor of theater and dance, was in the courtroom and seemed ecstatic after the jury came back with their verdict. Prof. Copeland is somewhat famous in the courtroom for getting this response on a Raimondo text to co-workers after a letter-to-the editor he wrote was critical of the school for their handling of the Gibson’ affair. “Fuck him,” Raimondo responded in a text message about Copeland. “I’d say unleash the students if I wasn’t convinced this needs to be put behind us.”

    “I’m exhilarated by this verdict,” Copeland said, whose wife Michele worked at the school in food service and testified she was under orders by the school to cut the business off from the cafeteria bagels and pastries they provided because of the student unrest.

    “What is most amazing about this trial is that the public was able to see what the process really was in how the school goes about its business,” Copeland said. “It’s almost like the mask has been ripped off the face and we can now see what the face really looks like.”

  117. @bucky

    “No, just no. White women like her are not the real problem.”

    Yes, they are. These white women are the high school teachers and university professors who feed these kids anti-white ideas. I know some of them. They exist. They take seminars and read Ta-Nehisi Coates and then bring that to their students. Then they brag about this on their Facebook pages, while bemoaning made-up ideas like “institutional racism.”

    Beyond this, a lot of white women are the very writers who spread these ideas to the teachers and professors to begin with. The most popular these days is Robin DiAngelo, who coined the phrase “white fragility.” But go to any newspaper and you’ll find these little white female footsoldiers. One giveaway is their misleading use of the word “children” when describing a black teenager of any age.

    Monica Hesse used “children” to describe black teenagers in the Washington Post the other day. It was in an op/ed that also contained this statistically-challenged gem: “…the hideous myth that black men pose a unique danger to white women.”

    Come to think of it, maybe white women are the main problem in cases like this, not just a part of it. They outnumber blacks leaders and have more power and influence considering that the ones in education directly reach our kids.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Bucky
  118. @ben tillman

    After Copeland’s critical letter to the editor, Ben Jones, the vice president of communications for the school, sent out a text message stating, “FUCK ROGER COPELAND.” Raimondo responded with a text stating, “Fuck him. I’d say unleash the students if I wasn’t convinced this needs to be put behind us.”

    As if we needed more proof they hate us and want us dead…

  119. @Days of Broken Arrows

    Yes, they are. These white women are the high school teachers and university professors who feed these kids anti-white ideas.

    But they got the ideas from others, so they are not the real problem.

  120. Bucky says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    As I said, they are reacting to the presence of blacks. The fundamental issue is not white women. White women are the most empathetic, nurturing, and so on. The issue is the alien body that is black America that has occupied the centers of government and media in this country.

    White women in the absence of a black presence do what? They become the church lady.

    You’re a cuck taking the easy way out by blaming women.

  121. Neoconned says:
    @bomag

    Of course policyholders and shareholders will fund the bailout.

    Well just like various taxpayer bailouts they will fund garbage like this until places like Oberlin become uninsurable….

    • Replies: @bomag
  122. Neoconned says:
    @Sane Left Libertarian

    My friend is a California republican, a bit more secular and libertarian than holy rollers from this region.

    That being said she only rents her small 2 to 5 unit apartments to Section 8 tenants.

    If the hoods act a fool then Section 8 takes care of the problem and boots them out of the programme

  123. @Redneck farmer

    The American herd is overdue for a culling.

    We tried that, but the Colonization Society was shot down by planters.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  124. bucky says:
    @bomag

    They’re women. Whether they should be this or that is not the point.

  125. @Roger

    Yeah, I take that back, Roger, and thank you for writing to me. In general I was joking, though you didn’t catch that, but I’d thought of him long ago as a Commie type from the Cold War era. That is wrong, and I apologize for that comment (though not any actions, WTF?). As I looked up this guy just now, I realize he’s a real Libertarian, and no Commie at all.

    I read a couple of his posts on AntiWar.com, and it turns out he is very sick with cancer too. I doubt he’s reading here, but, Justin, I am sorry to have written that. I hope he stays around a while, as Justin Raimondo is the kind of troublemaker we need more of in America, not this Meredith here.

    (BTW, I don’t have an Arabic name. It’s my handle that I gotta admit I didn’t make up, just used it to test whether I could comment here and stuck with it.)

    • Replies: @Roger
  126. 68W58 says:
    @ben tillman

    That’s the kind of decorum we’ve come to expect from college Vice Presidents.

  127. Roger says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Cool! Thanks for letting me know. You are absolved.

    I was fairly sure that Achmed was probably not really your name and just used that as an example of the way people can distort anything out of shape. No intention of harm or ill will on my part. My gut feeling is that your handle is more likely a play on the name of Mad magazine’s mascot, Alfred E. Neuman, which is perfectly acceptable. I used to read it.

    BTW, the name Achmed actually is Arabic and means “highly praised” or “praiseworthy”. Your apology, in public no less, tells me that you have measured up to the name you have chosen.

    Be careful, though. It only takes one slip.

  128. @Anonymous

    “Student protests erupted…”

    This is as tiresome as “shots rang out.” Protests do not simply “erupt,” they are bought and paid for.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  129. @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks Reg, now you’ve triggered all the Southrons here.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  130. @Redneck farmer

    Thanks Reg, now you’ve triggered all the Southrons here.

    A.k.a. niγγerlovers.

  131. MBlanc46 says:
    @Jack D

    White women supported the white team? Before they were granted the franchise, at least they couldn’t oppose the white team. Since they’ve been able to oppose the white team, they’ve done so.

  132. I know a former Oberlin trustee. I don’t think I’m running the risk of doxxing anyone. Apparently, the older trustees, the ones who are early boomers or older, are livid about how the matter has been handled, right from the start, and wanted the Dean fired and the matter settled out of court.

    Oberlin’s endowment is about $880 million. By comparison, some peer-group private colleges, such as Williams, Amherst, Boston College, Pomona or Swarthmore have endowments in excess of $2 billion.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  133. Dtbb says:
    @Anon

    Peterless principle?

  134. OT:

    Ashleigh Barty, an Australian aborigine just won the women’s title at the French Open.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Clyde
    , @donut
    , @sb
  135. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @dearieme

    They have been treated as moral agents since 1965.

    It has been a disaster. Paternalism is the way forward. Separation is even better.

    Nothing about blacks in any situation-ever- suggests that blacks are by White standards moral people. Blacks in America have an average iq of 85 well below the level needed for understanding and basing ones life on reciprocity ie the golden rule which is a cornerstone of White culture.

    If you want to know why blacks and Whites are not the same just look at Liberia.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  136. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA

    ‘This seems like a continuation of the centuries-old town vs. gown feud’

    The bakers are likely SWPLs though. The centuries old bit sounds like an exscuse for typical black misbehaviour.

  137. bomag says:
    @Neoconned

    …until places like Oberlin become uninsurable

    Yes, but I suspect Oberlin et al will remain irrational longer than the country remains solvent.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  138. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    ‘The students in question are almost certainly drawn from the bourgeoisie or the skilled working class and aren’t lacking for the ability to make moral decisions’

    Except of course they are. Blacks never developed property rights and therefore have no innate prohibitions against stealing. Also that they said the only crime they committed was trying to buy alcohol with fake ids shows they are morally impaired as they cannot see how excusing themselves from one crime by using another makes them look.

    Countless local governments/ charities/ other institutions have been taken over by ‘bourgeoisie’ or otherwise ‘skilled working class’ blacks who have proceeded to loot said institutions with glee abandon.

    Yes blacks are children. Yes they will only go so far as adults let them (unfortunately for society at large bad minded liberal Whites and Jews) and no further. But the main issue is thier sense of entitlement combined with thier moral opacity.

    Trying to purchase alcohol by fraud and then punching and kicking small business owners and then crying racism (oh so so predictible) and then filing a frivolous lawsuit against people just trying to earn a living.

    This is not about culture and malincentives.

    This is about the nature of a certain race.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @ScarletNumber
  139. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Great comment.

    During the O.J simpson trial when everyone thought he would be convicted blacks were polled as to how fair they thought O.Js trial was. North of 70 percent of them thought the trial was unfair and that he would be railroaded. After he was freed they were polled again. Virtually all of them thought O.J had gotten a fair trial. Conclusion: to blacks whatever works in thier favour is fair i.e they are morally impaired (by White standards). Also their culture is not based on reciprocity (fairness and the golden rule) so it is no suprise many of them disagree with the bill of rights. Blacks preach fairness but when given power always return to despotism.

  140. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    ‘Less capable is not incapable,’

    They look pretty damned incapable in Africa.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  141. @Bill P

    They are not fundamentally moral people (by White standards) just look at anywhere where they come into power.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  142. @Prester John

    Notwithstanding the merits of this case, such awards are often more symbolic than anything else. No way this bakery will ever see $11M. The case will be appealed and the process could be drawn out. In the interim both sides will negotiate off of that number as it is the prudent way of doing business (law is like any other business-it’s subject to the Bottom Line). What this case will settle for in the end is anyone’s guess.

    First, the judgment will be for $33 million. Punitive damages have not yet been assessed.

    Second, it’s libel per se, so there’s no need to prove the amount of actual damages, in which case how could the amount of damages be subject to appellate review?

  143. @ThreeCranes

    ‘They are simply incapable of understanding how and why upholding the value of fairness is necessary.’

    I.e thier culture is not based on the golden rule. If you have an iq of 85 you literally cannot understand it.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Desiderius
  144. Escher says:
    @Anonymous

    Raimondo “served as special assistant to the president for equity, inclusion, and diversity and Title IX coordinator.”

    In other words, assistant to the head inquisitor.

  145. @Escher

    I almost thought you had slipped in an excellent “The Office” joke there.

    That close!

    • Replies: @Escher
  146. @Almost Missouri

    Good on you, A.M. I do this sort of thing too, and I think the moral support is probably more important than the purchase (in the small business case, not Chick Fil-A, that is). Did you purchase a Black & White cookie?

  147. vxxc says:

    Let me help with the Baking Hate:

    Baking is the hardest and most time consuming form of cooking.

    If its hard work/ they hate it and hate the workers.

    • Replies: @vxxc
  148. vxxc says:
    @vxxc

    I miss the real commies.

    I really do.

    Can you imagine someone telling Stalin they needed to purge the Bakers?

    Silly and Sad.

  149. El Dato says:
    @Anon

    This says enough

    Absolutely Haram!

  150. res says:
    @Mr. Anon

    It would be funny if the award was increased on appeal. I guess that never happens

    Never happening would be unfortunate. If there is not a possibility of a negative outcome the motivation of one side or the other to appeal is very strong.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  151. Art Deco says:
    @PiltdownMan

    A quibble:

    Boston College, in spite of its name, is a research institution with an enrollment 7x that of the typical specimen among Oberlin’s peer institutions. Pomona’s part of a confederation which offers research degrees and has a census about 4x that of a typical peer school to Oberlin. The close peers are Bryn Mawr, Colorado College, Macalester, Kenyon, Mt. Holyoke, Holy Cross, Bucknell, Franklin and Marshall, Lafayette, and, among the Claremont Colleges, Scripps.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  152. Art Deco says:
    @Escher

    She’s the dean of students. She is the head inquisitor. Typically, the judicial programs officer works for the dean of students.

  153. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymouser

    About 45 million people have an IQ at or below 85. They’re perfectly capable of understanding uncomplicated moral imperatives.

  154. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymouser

    just look at anywhere where they come into power.

    Where are you not looking?

  155. @Anon

    The next stage of the suit will address punitive damages for the emotional and other kinds of damage. The award could be multiples of the $11 million.

  156. @res

    Evidently, the Oberlin admin (including counsel) are still acting like the incompetent asshole cult they have been for a generation, so look for them to get mauled with enough punitive damages to make their endowment sit up and take notice.

    This is like town-gown, but gown is just fantasizing random shit about town and running with it. More Woke Quixotism.

  157. @PiltdownMan

    That does seem to give lie to the old term for abos: “blackfella”.

  158. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    Blacks never developed property rights and therefore have no innate prohibitions against stealing.

    There are 42 million blacks in the United States. Strange as it may seem to you, 46% of them live in owner-occupied housing, you know, with property deeds and tax liability and such. The survey research done by the Bureau of Justice Statistics indicates that about 4.7 million people saw their house burgled or their car stolen in 2017; 15% of those who answered in the affirmative were black, so the distinction between ‘mine’ and ‘not mine’ might just be fairly prevalent among that subpopulation. As we speak, the lifetime probability of a non-black person being arrested for burglary, car theft, or ordinary theft is running at 18%; that for a black person at 40%. Not really different enough to put them in a separate subspecies.

  159. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    They’ve been treated as moral agents since it was common for them to face charges under the penal code.

    And it’s never a ‘disaster’ to treat someone as a moral agent. It’s only a disaster to fail to enforce the law and ordinary rules in public settings.

    • Agree: Desiderius, Johann Ricke
  160. @Bill P

    No people are fundamentally moral.

    Nice theory, wrong species. We defend blacks because they’re Americans. But there is nothing special, let alone magic about them.

  161. @Anonymouser

    Our culture isn’t either, thank God.

    Try finding a wife with the Golden Rule.

  162. @Anonymous

    Good thing they’ve been here for countless generations then.

  163. Jack D says:
    @Clyde

    The jury hasn’t heard the punitive damages phase yet. Apparently they can triple the damages up to 33 million. And some of Oberlin’s insurance carriers are trying to deny coverage under the policy, which they can do if the acts were intentional. Oberlin has already fought this much harder than they needed to (they surely could have settled) because they wanted to stick with their SJW nonsense and not admit that they were wrong in any way. They will probably keep appealing for the same reason but it really looks grim for them – Raimondo has a big mouth and there are lots of incriminating texts in the records. As part of their plea deal, the boys had to admit that they were shoplifting and their detention was justified, so that shot the legs out from under the “truth is a defense” aspect of Oberlin’s case.

    Oberlin’s lawyers also went with a very insulting strategy claiming that the entire 100 year old business was only worth $35,000 – this probably just pissed off the jury even more. Oberlin really went for a very arrogant scorched earth strategy here, hoping that they could outspend Mom & Pop on legal fees, but it backfired on them. “Social justice” doesn’t do well when it is required to meet the standards of “actual justice”.

    The “Legal Insurrection” blog has much more.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Bill B.
    , @Clyde
  164. @HammerJack

    BTW: Oberlin College president

    Jeez, dude, put a trigger warning on links like that.

  165. Clyde says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Blacks are no lovers of freedom, except freedom from work and free access to goodies produced by white civilization.

    Brutal but true. To be fair many blacks do report to work…. At do nothing Gov’t jobs. Those Gov’t jobs, seized via affirmative action, are what has made the black middle class. And around Washington DC make that the black upper middle class. Though their children usually regress to a *brutal* mean.

  166. FPD72 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    So, is the term “CS mayor” something of a double entendre? I can understand “CS” in two different senses, both of them accurate.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  167. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    The incident occurred during the regime of the previous college president, but the suit wasn’t filed until after he’d left the campus. It’s a reasonable wager that the pig-headed behavior of Oberlin has been at the behest of the current college president, Carmen Twillie Ambar. She has a law degree, but it appears she never practiced and has been an apparatchik in higher ed the whole time. Raimondo appears to be an arrogant fool of a sort who would go to trial in these circumstances, but university counsel do not work for the dean of students.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  168. Carmen Twillie Ambar:

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @orionyx
  169. Neoconned says:
    @bomag

    That is the same argument many pessimists pointed out to the gold pushers of the last decade….the dollar will stay muddling along longer than gold bugs can remain solvent…..

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  170. Clyde says:
    @Art Deco

    Carmen Twillie Ambar. She has a law degree, but it appears she never practiced and has been an apparatchik in higher ed the whole time. Raimondo………

    Three very woke women went way overboard and are to blame. Two are black with wacky names. SJWism works great on campus, only problem is the nearby juries (jury pools) are mainstream aka normie. Twillie? lol…. The third one is Donica Thomas Varner who is head of legal at Oberlin College. She spun off the most recent tone deaf statement.

  171. Bill B. says:
    @Jack D

    I read somewhere that Oberlin wanted a peace deal before going to trial where the shop would promise not to report future shoplifters to the police.

  172. Clyde says:
    @Jack D

    Raimondo has a big mouth and there are lots of incriminating texts in the records. As part of their plea deal, the boys had to admit that they were shoplifting and their detention was justified, so that shot the legs out from under the “truth is a defense” aspect of Oberlin’s case.

    Big mouth indeed. She’s kind of comical and the divine Ms R is still pulling down her hefty paycheck. Still gettin’ paid by Oberlin. https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/verdict-jury-awards-gibsons-bakery-11-million-against-oberlin-college/ Most comments that blog has ever gotten.

    I agree w all points of your wrap up. As in scorched earth SJWism failed with a representative jury. Which lets say was half or more composed of Democrat voters but were very turned off by Raimondo et al. This jury voted against arrogant leftist administrators and colleges.
    Check out the female troika that really runs Oberlin and got them owing millions to this bakery. They are Donica, Twillie, Raimondo.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  173. Clyde says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Ashleigh Barty, an Australian aborigine just won the women’s title at the French Open.

    Tie me kangaroo down! no way is she Abo. And I looked at her other www images.

  174. donut says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Australia’s own Elizabeth Warren .

  175. JackOH says:

    Steve, this case hits on what we beat to death here on Unz Review. “Deplorable” White folks who are presumably possessed of unreasoned, toxic anti-Black animus requiring legislative and judicial beatdowns over decades, plus the occasional public scoldings such as the Raimundo rant.

    Then it turns out the White dude (or dude-ess) was acting rationally in response to a criminal act by a specific Black dude.

    This case really seems like something a good polemicist can turn to good account so we can get to an America where “content of character” is the rule rather than skin color.

  176. @Art Deco

    Thanks.

    No quibble at all. I stand duly (and substantively) corrected. Thanks.

  177. anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “He is unable and unwilling to pronounce the word “ask” as it is written.”

    “Aks” is the pronunciation of the future. Get with it, pal.

  178. JackOH says:
    @Clyde

    “They are Donica, Twillie, Raimondo.”

    Whew! Am I the only dude getting a crazy dystopian David versus Goliath vibe out of this? As in–the idea of White folks as a morally diminished legacy population is now.

  179. Dan Hayes says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    The picture says it all since the camera never lies!!

  180. TWS says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Come on, you’re not even trying. More about how the white man was just hassling the black man because of secret animosity. Or something.

  181. JackOH says:

    So this extraordinary political opportunity will be capitalized upon by Unz Review readers and others, who’ll soon be marching in the streets of Oberlin bearing signs reading, say: “Toxic Hater – NOT!”.

    A spokesman with an easy James Garner-type manner will tell national media interviewers: “That’s right, Norah (or Jose), we’re here to support a small business that was unfairly bullied by a wealthy, arrogant institution that teaches that White folks are full of hate. It just ain’t so.”

    Well?

  182. sb says:
    @PiltdownMan

    I think I read that one of her great grandparents had aboriginal ancestry – and we don’t know whether that great grandparent was a full blood or not .

    Still it’s rather a higher percentage of indigeneous than, say , Elizabeth Warren

    To be fair to Barty I seen no evidence that she has ever gained any benefit , financial or otherwise , from her ancestry .
    Many people like her just live in the general Australian community and make no claims for any special treatment – that’s something that seems to have been imported from America

  183. @FPD72

    I don’t get it myself, FPD – I just meant Colorado Springs. I take it the other definition is not work-safe, or what?

  184. @Neoconned

    I’m pretty sure that’s where Bomag got the phrasing from:

    “The market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.” is the way the ZeroHedgers used to put it.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  185. Art Deco says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think that might have been Marty Zweig or Louis Rukeyser who said that. Zweig was also known for two other maxims, “Don’t fight the Fed” and “Don’t fight the tape”.

  186. @Anonymous

    Trying to purchase alcohol by fraud

    I think this is common in the 16-20 age range regardless of race.

  187. JackOH says:

    If you want to send a note of support to Gibson’s:

    Gibson’s Food Mart and Bakery

    23 W. College Street

    Oberlin, OH 44074-1543

    Gibson’s Facebook page mentions the store is selling baseball caps: “Gibson’s Since 1885”.

  188. Escher says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Darn, missed the opportunity. Time to order some gabagool for lunch.

  189. orionyx says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Just seeing that would be enough to make me say no way is my child attending that school, even on a full scholarship.

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