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From the NYT Sunday Review opinion section:

White Economic Privilege Is Alive and Well

By PAUL F. CAMPOS JULY 29, 2017

Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people? Anxiety and resentment among some white voters about those policies certainly seemed to benefit Donald Trump’s campaign last year, with its populist, ethno-nationalist message.

The problem with this belief is that it is false. The income gap between black and white working-class Americans, like the gap between black and white Americans at every income level, remains every bit as extreme as it was five decades ago. (This is also true of the income gap between Hispanic and white Americans.)

Is, therefore, Asian Privilege a Thing?

In 2015 — the most recent year for which data are available — black households at the 20th and 40th percentiles of household income earned an average of 55 percent as much as white households at those same percentiles. This is exactly the same figure as in 1967.

It’s almost as if white racism, which even the most conformist would admit has declined substantially over the last century, wasn’t the only thing that was holding blacks down, even in 1967.

Indeed, five decades of household income data reveal a yawning and uncannily consistent income gap between black and white Americans across the economic spectrum.

“Uncannily consistent” — it’s almost like it’s partly genetic or something.

Fifty years ago, black upper-class Americans had incomes about two-thirds those of white upper-class Americans, while the black middle class — those in the 60th percentile — earned about two-thirds as much as its white counterpart.

It would be interesting to see somebody calculate the ratio of black income to Jewish income in 1967 and 2017. I don’t know what it was or is, since Americans are strongly discouraged from thinking about such data, but let’s say blacks averaged half as much as Jews in 1967 and one-third as much as Jews in 2017. Would the NYT headline the article: “Jewish Economic Privilege Is Alive and Growing”?

Those ratios remain the same today.

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These numbers should shock us. Consider that in the mid-1960s, Jim Crow practices were still being dismantled and affirmative action hardly existed. Yet a half-century of initiatives intended to combat the effects of centuries of virulent racism appear to have done nothing to ameliorate inequality between white and black America. …

But the historical pervasiveness and contemporary persistence of racism in America offer more than adequate explanations for what should be considered a scandalous state of affairs in regard to race-based economic inequality. …

Paul F. Campos is a professor of law at the University of Colorado, Boulder.

Hey, I was just in Boulder! Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early. I expected that in conservative Colorado Springs, but leftist Boulder is super early to bed too. Most restaurants on Boulder’s posh pedestrian mall downtown close their kitchens at 9pm, as do most of the chain fast food restaurants around town. Even with a smartphone, it was a bit of a challenge to roll into Boulder at 9:05 PM and find a place to eat.

I suppose you could make the case the White Privilege is alive and thriving in Boulder, which is of course an extremely liberal (Clinton 81 – Trump 11), rich, and white place. From Wikipedia:

The racial makeup of the city was 88.0% White, 0.9% Black or African American, 0.4% Native American, 4.7% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 3.2% some other race, and 2.6% from two or more races. 8.7% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

In 2011 the estimated … median family income was $113,681. …

Boulder housing tends to be priced higher than surrounding areas. … The median price of a home exceeded $1,000,000 dollars in July 2016.

On the other hand, Boulder is famously not like all of America.

Now, you might think that being a professor in Boulder, of all places, might lead you to notice slightly fresher things about working class white privilege, but, apparently not: Professor Campos merely reiterates the same old same old ideas that were the conventional wisdom in 1967.

 

 
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  1. Jack D says:

    A genuine populist movement would unite working- and middle-class Americans of all backgrounds, rather than dividing them by exploiting false beliefs about the supposed loss of white economic privilege.

    Searched the article for “imm” – 0 hits.

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    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    and I searched the internet for videos of Trump campaign speeches where he talked about "loss of white economic privilege"...
    , @hyperbola
    The biggest pushers of "racism" in America are "our" media (95% owned by a racist-supremacist, foreign sect). "Divide and Conquer" keeps attention from focussing on sects who abuse Americans of all backgrounds.

    Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World's Media
    http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

    How long has the NY Times been lying to Americans?

    The New York Times' role in promoting war on Iraq
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/23/1079939624187.html
    This is the first 'Engineering consent' column by Antony Loewenstein, to focus on the inside workings of big media.
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  2. Is there a country out there where the income gap between blacks and whites does not exist?

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    Uhh, USgovernmentstan?
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  3. Meanwhile, someone is getting ready for 2020:

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    If I were active on facebook I'd like this.

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  4. STL says:

    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa’s economic problems on “white monopoly capital.” Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.

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    Where's the video?
    , @STL
    Embedding the video didn't work the first time. Below is link to youtube video on the BBC Newsnight report.

    https://youtu.be/2KSHC6UPUgA



    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa’s economic problems on “white monopoly capital.” Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Tim Bell was Mrs Thatcher's right hand PR man back in the day - they were also awarded half a billion dollars of US cash not so long ago to do anti-ISIS disinformation in Iraq, not I'd have thought an obvious area of expertise for them . He seems a 'colourful character', as the business supplements say.

    "On 19 November 1977 Bell was fined £50 for indecency. He had exposed himself while masturbating at his Hampstead bathroom window on 21 October in full view of female passers-by"

     

    And Bell Pottinger appear to have quite a rep for editing Wikipedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Pottinger

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Bell,_Baron_Bell
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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    So when do we get to see the data on Jewish Privilege, Hindu Privilege, the Jewish/Black achievement gap and the Hindu/Mexican achievement gap?

    Something tells me there is some institutional racism and disparate impact.

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  6. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “It’s almost as if white racism, which even the most conformist would admit has declined substantially over the last century, wasn’t the only thing that was holding blacks down, even in 1967.”

    It’s amazing isn’t it? By nearly every measure: illegitimacy, stable families, drug use, incarceration rates, employment, etc.- blacks were far better off prior to the 1960s than after it. Others have remarked on it as well. Interesting point, because if black problems are due to white racism, it would mean that blacks in, say, 1920 being deprived of using the same clinics as whites, subjected to Jim Crow laws, prohibited from living near whites, etc. were subjected to far less racist treatment than a black today whose biggest uphill battle in terms of ‘institutional racism’ is that they might face a microaggression of having a clerk keep one eye on them when they walk around a store.

    Is it white racism responsible for the bad things in their life or not? If so, then how could it be inversely correlated with their quality of life?

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  7. @STL
    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa's economic problems on "white monopoly capital." Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.

    Where’s the video?

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  8. newrouter says:

    “Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?”

    Yes next question.

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    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Actually, the NYT's own graphic shows that at the 40th percentile, which is pretty much mid-working class, there are black gains/white losses, so the NYT's own graphic certainly implies that the answer to the editorial's opening sentence,

    "Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?"
     
    is "Yes."

    Somehow the next thousand words ignore this.

    #WhyINoLongerReadNYT

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  9. @Jack D

    A genuine populist movement would unite working- and middle-class Americans of all backgrounds, rather than dividing them by exploiting false beliefs about the supposed loss of white economic privilege.
     
    Searched the article for "imm" - 0 hits.

    and I searched the internet for videos of Trump campaign speeches where he talked about “loss of white economic privilege“…

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  10. anonguy says:

    Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early.

    That is my observation about liberal whitopias in general. In a lot of ways, they are like prosperous medieval towns but with iPhones.

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    • Replies: @Dale Gribble
    I noticed that about boulder as well. We needed to get some pharmacy supplies about 10pm Saturday night recently and we had to drive miles to find a open Walgreens The city seemed very quiet.
    , @CK
    When the sidewalks are rolled up, there is no place for the diverse to congregate.
    Rolled up sidewalks are the current version of Sundown Laws.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Well said. Medieval towns with invisible "moats" that are discussed frequently here but are powerful because they are invisible to other observers.
    , @MBlanc46
    Perhaps we retire early because we have to get up early to go to work.
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  11. I’m surprised that the part where professor Campos dismisses Charles’ Murray’s crazy, pseudo-scientific theory that blacks are less intelligent than whites on average and maybe that has something to do with it wasn’t quoted:

    Conservatives like Charles Murray tend to blame either social welfare programs for sapping initiative and keeping black people poor, or black people themselves for being less intelligent than whites, or a “pathological” culture that now manifests itself in the white working class as well.

    But the historical pervasiveness and contemporary persistence of racism in America offer more than adequate explanations for what should be considered a scandalous state of affairs in regard to race-based economic inequality.

    Many black children, for example, attend schools that once again are as segregated as they were in the 1960s, and they are far more likely to become trapped in a prison-industrial complex that the scholar Michelle Alexander has called “the new Jim Crow.”

    Obviously, since the Coleman report in the mid 1960s, anyone who’s been paying attention knows that school quality isn’t a demonstrably important factor. (Bad students lead to “bad” schools, not the other way around.) Although of course if the fascist carceral state hadn’t started locking up en masse first time black non-violent marijuana offenders for life (who I’m led to believe comprise 72.3% of the prison population) those upstanding gentleman would naturally be choosing their pick of the litter on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, so Campos has a point there.

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    From that quote you selected

    Conservatives like Charles Murray

     

    Last time I checked, Charles Murray was a libertarian not a conservative.
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  12. Ed says:

    I’m noticing an uptick in attacks from the media and academia on the white working class. The WSJ had an opinion piece about the working class and Trump. The Twitteri were up in arms after all aren’t blacks working class?

    Trump’s antics haven’t sufficiently collapsed his support enough to cultural elite’s liking. Things may yet get uglier.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    Trump's winning was about sending a giant FOAD to D.C. and they still support him since he's driving the effete elites into perpetual meltdown.

    Of course these elites are attacking white blue collars since they want them dead and gone.

    Consider the opioid epidemic that hit the rust belt and the mid-West. Big pharma that produces Oxycontin knows full well how many they need to make for legit consumption, yet they produce and ship far more to regions of the country where the population base is too small for the amount they distribute there.

    In short they know who are the pill mills.

    It's euthanasia for whites.
    , @Anonymous
    Blacks may be working class, but it's a different sort of working class.

    It's like there's a certain type of person who has a deep fear and loathing of white Christianity, but seem to actually enjoy Black Christianity.

    I'm surprised some are so eager to play up this 'white privilege' angle. When the data suggests Jews are hyper-priveleged, it might be a better strategy not to focus on the concept at all. There's a 'glass house' aspect you'd think they might take into account.
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  13. Wilkey says:

    It would be interesting to see somebody calculate the ratio of black income to Jewish income in 1967 and 2017.

    But that would obviously be higher, ’cause blacks are being held down by other whites (i.e., not Jews) and so suffering Jews are forced, against their wills mind you, to earn more than blacks.

    Obviously the better comparison is to ask how much Jews earn compared to non-Jewish whites, then and now. The fact that whites earn more than blacks is de facto proof of discrimination. The fact that Jews (and Asians) earn more than non-Jewish whites is de facto proof that…they worked damn hard for it and deserve it.

    black households at the 20th and 40th percentiles of household income earned an average of 55 percent as much as white households at those same percentiles. This is exactly the same figure as in 1967.

    He’s using data on households, the reality of which has changed significantly (in multiple respects) since 1967. The black family has been all but destroyed through the combined efforts of blacks themselves and their pals in the Democratic Party. A lot more whites are living in single parent households compared to 1967, as well, but there are also a lot of white households where both parents are working full time outside of the home. Right or wrong, his data also doesn’t appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)

    In short, “household” means something vastly different in 1967 than it did in 2017. It’s change mostly in the same ways for blacks and whites, but not entirely so, and not at the same rate of speed. Truth be told, the fact that black hosueholds are still earning 55% of what white households make, given all the chaos in the black community over the last 50 years, is a sign of progress (I guess).

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    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @slumber_j
    Your point about households strikes me as true.

    Here's another question: are Blacks being counted now as legacy Blacks--i.e. descendants of African slaves in the US--plus immigrant blacks? I ask this because in NYC where I live, there are plenty of Black immigrants, and immigrants tend to be poor.
    , @King Baeksu

    Right or wrong, his data also doesn’t appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)
     
    You've got that right:

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

    Professor Camos needs to distinguish between gross and net or take-home income. One suspects that "the income gap between black and white working-class Americans" would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.
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  14. Whiskey says: • Website

    Why is anyone surprised? White women unless constrained tend towards Marie Antoinette. And the White upper class is highly feminized. Let them eat organic arugala.

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    I actually tried to click the agree button there.
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  15. newrouter says:

    “The Twitteri were up in arms after all aren’t blacks working class?”

    no givemedat. after 400 years speak american english.

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  16. Indeed, five decades of household income data reveal a yawning and uncannily consistent income gap between black and white Americans across the economic spectrum.

    This is such a fascinating quote—it makes me wonder if almost literally any evidence could disprove the hypothesis that the black-white income gap is due to “structural racism” in the eyes of professor Campos. The fact that the gap has been persistent despite massive decreases in discrimination against blacks should only be “uncanny” if the only possible explanation was discrimination against blacks. If the gap is the result of another factor, like genetic differences, it’s unsurprising.

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    No. Their ideas of absolute equality, and thus White Evil and Black Longsuffering Sainthood are not falsifiable. They are an example of lunatic fanaticism which is immune to any collection of facts, observations, and experiences.
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  17. Rod1963 says:

    Wow, closing up at 9 PM, that’s the way it was in my home town in 1980. Stores all closed up, almost all stores were closed on major holidays and Sundays as well. Except the drive-ins and bars.

    Back then whites were allowed to have a life outside of work.

    Of course buying c**p wasn’t the high point in people’s lives either like it is now.

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  18. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?…

    The problem with this belief is that it is false. The income gap between black and white working-class Americans…

    The problem is it’s not just income that troubles the white working class. It’s also their houses and neighborhoods and the schools their kids attend. In other words it’s their quality of life. And many aren’t too fond of policies designed to diversify their neighborhoods. This tends to decrease their homes’ value and degrade their kids’ schools. For those who can afford the diversity tax, they can move to greener, i.e. whiter. pastures. For the rest it leads to resentment.

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  19. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Great confessional from a commie cult member who woke up!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/07/ten_reasons_i_am_no_longer_a_leftist.html

    …you know damn well that lack of Asians in these NYT articles on black-white gap issues is registering with their readership. It’s insulting. And the Ten Reasons article should’ve been titled Eleven Reasons because ultimately she left communism because it was insulting her intelligence!

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  20. anon says: • Disclaimer

    OT: I just today learned of Roger Ailes’ death two months ago. How had I missed this?

    It probably wouldn’t withstand statistical scrutiny, but it’s interesting (stress->heart attack notwithstanding) how disgraced persons seemingly die soon after their downfalls. Ken Lay and Joe Paterno come to mind.

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    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    I don't know the specifics of this case, but the arrow of causation likely points the other way: people weakened by illness make mistakes and their lives go to to shit before they die. The ultimate insult is that people stand over their graves saying: 'See? He was a bad dude and that is why he is now dead, Karma.'
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  21. @Peripatetic commenter
    Meanwhile, someone is getting ready for 2020:

    https://files.gab.ai/image/597e3202a1e87.jpeg

    If I were active on facebook I’d like this.

    Use your imagination to see the thumbs-up emoji I pasted but the comments CMS can’t show

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The graph comparing various percentiles is what I would have predicted. Near the bottom, at the 20th percentile, black dysfunction is worse than white dysfunction, so blacks are falling in comparison. At the top (80th and 95th%) talent and education have a much bigger payoff for whites than for blacks, so blacks are also falling in comparison. At 40th % blacks have improved and at 60th % have stayed the same. This is probably in part do to the way more and more companies pay their unskilled and lesser skilled workers – pay increases on a schedule without regard to performance, in order to avoid discrimination lawsuits.

    My first job out of college involved managing blue collar workers at a manufacturing plant, and that’s the way we gave raises, and for that reason. But even for “unskilled labor” there was a huge difference in quality and productivity between the worst workers and the best, and the difference between races was obvious. Of course n was too small a number to draw definitive conclusions, but the results were pretty much what you’d expect.

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  23. Rod1963 says:
    @Ed
    I'm noticing an uptick in attacks from the media and academia on the white working class. The WSJ had an opinion piece about the working class and Trump. The Twitteri were up in arms after all aren't blacks working class?

    Trump's antics haven't sufficiently collapsed his support enough to cultural elite's liking. Things may yet get uglier.

    Trump’s winning was about sending a giant FOAD to D.C. and they still support him since he’s driving the effete elites into perpetual meltdown.

    Of course these elites are attacking white blue collars since they want them dead and gone.

    Consider the opioid epidemic that hit the rust belt and the mid-West. Big pharma that produces Oxycontin knows full well how many they need to make for legit consumption, yet they produce and ship far more to regions of the country where the population base is too small for the amount they distribute there.

    In short they know who are the pill mills.

    It’s euthanasia for whites.

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  24. STL says:
    @STL
    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa's economic problems on "white monopoly capital." Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.

    Embedding the video didn’t work the first time. Below is link to youtube video on the BBC Newsnight report.

    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa’s economic problems on “white monopoly capital.” Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.

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  25. Trelane says:

    People who believe the disparity of outcomes between blacks and whites to be entirely environmental are “environmental determinists”, an outmoded and discredited view of 19th century pseudoscience.

    The modern view is that differences in outcome result from complex environmental, genetic, gene-environment correlation and random factors such as luck, error and 1/f noise.

    Why is the NYT Sunday Review publishing recycled 19th century Marxist rubbish? Is their reader that gullible?

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  26. slumber_j says:
    @Wilkey
    It would be interesting to see somebody calculate the ratio of black income to Jewish income in 1967 and 2017.

    But that would obviously be higher, 'cause blacks are being held down by other whites (i.e., not Jews) and so suffering Jews are forced, against their wills mind you, to earn more than blacks.

    Obviously the better comparison is to ask how much Jews earn compared to non-Jewish whites, then and now. The fact that whites earn more than blacks is de facto proof of discrimination. The fact that Jews (and Asians) earn more than non-Jewish whites is de facto proof that...they worked damn hard for it and deserve it.


    black households at the 20th and 40th percentiles of household income earned an average of 55 percent as much as white households at those same percentiles. This is exactly the same figure as in 1967.

    He's using data on households, the reality of which has changed significantly (in multiple respects) since 1967. The black family has been all but destroyed through the combined efforts of blacks themselves and their pals in the Democratic Party. A lot more whites are living in single parent households compared to 1967, as well, but there are also a lot of white households where both parents are working full time outside of the home. Right or wrong, his data also doesn't appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)

    In short, "household" means something vastly different in 1967 than it did in 2017. It's change mostly in the same ways for blacks and whites, but not entirely so, and not at the same rate of speed. Truth be told, the fact that black hosueholds are still earning 55% of what white households make, given all the chaos in the black community over the last 50 years, is a sign of progress (I guess).

    Your point about households strikes me as true.

    Here’s another question: are Blacks being counted now as legacy Blacks–i.e. descendants of African slaves in the US–plus immigrant blacks? I ask this because in NYC where I live, there are plenty of Black immigrants, and immigrants tend to be poor.

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    • Replies: @Triumph104
    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
    , @L Woods
    In my (admittedly limited) experience, black immigrants are indeed jumping on the grievance gravy train as self-identified "African-Americans." Naturally, their claim to victim points is justified by the ongoing pernicious and pervasive sinister humors of white supremacy, etc, even though their ancestors arrived on these shores well after the dismantlement of segregation etc. Actual African-Americans seem remarkably accepting of this brazen parasitism.
    , @The Practical Conservative
    Black married fertility is no longer very historical-American black. Married black fertility is split between immigrants, their descendants and historical-American black women married to nonblack or black immigrant men with a rump end of historical-American blacks married to each other. Unmarried black fertility is massively historical-American black.

    Functional historical-American black women of childbearing age avoid childbearing and have been doing so in bigger and bigger numbers since the 1970s and especially since the 1990s.

    The demographics of black America have changed a lot in recent decades.
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  27. King Baeksu says: • Website
    @Wilkey
    It would be interesting to see somebody calculate the ratio of black income to Jewish income in 1967 and 2017.

    But that would obviously be higher, 'cause blacks are being held down by other whites (i.e., not Jews) and so suffering Jews are forced, against their wills mind you, to earn more than blacks.

    Obviously the better comparison is to ask how much Jews earn compared to non-Jewish whites, then and now. The fact that whites earn more than blacks is de facto proof of discrimination. The fact that Jews (and Asians) earn more than non-Jewish whites is de facto proof that...they worked damn hard for it and deserve it.


    black households at the 20th and 40th percentiles of household income earned an average of 55 percent as much as white households at those same percentiles. This is exactly the same figure as in 1967.

    He's using data on households, the reality of which has changed significantly (in multiple respects) since 1967. The black family has been all but destroyed through the combined efforts of blacks themselves and their pals in the Democratic Party. A lot more whites are living in single parent households compared to 1967, as well, but there are also a lot of white households where both parents are working full time outside of the home. Right or wrong, his data also doesn't appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)

    In short, "household" means something vastly different in 1967 than it did in 2017. It's change mostly in the same ways for blacks and whites, but not entirely so, and not at the same rate of speed. Truth be told, the fact that black hosueholds are still earning 55% of what white households make, given all the chaos in the black community over the last 50 years, is a sign of progress (I guess).

    Right or wrong, his data also doesn’t appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)

    You’ve got that right:

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

    Professor Camos needs to distinguish between gross and net or take-home income. One suspects that “the income gap between black and white working-class Americans” would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.

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    One suspects that “the income gap between black and white working-class Americans” would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.

    Yep, though there are good reasons for sometimes excluding such income transfers when making these calculations.

    But let's compare two typical 1967 households to two typical 2017 households. 1967: a black household with two parents with maybe 1.5 full-time jobs between them versus a white household with two parents with the husband working full-time and the wife not working outside the home at all.

    Then 2017: a single black parent working a full-time job versus a white household with husband and wife both working full-time jobs.

    Those are the extreme examples, of course, but not all that far from reality. Thus the fact that the average black household still makes 55% of the average white household is surprising, but not for the reasons Paul Campos suggests. And that 55%, of course, excludes the income transfers to the black household. White couples are working more hours than in 1967, but with less to show for it.

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  28. EriK says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman
    I'm surprised that the part where professor Campos dismisses Charles' Murray's crazy, pseudo-scientific theory that blacks are less intelligent than whites on average and maybe that has something to do with it wasn't quoted:

    Conservatives like Charles Murray tend to blame either social welfare programs for sapping initiative and keeping black people poor, or black people themselves for being less intelligent than whites, or a “pathological” culture that now manifests itself in the white working class as well.

    But the historical pervasiveness and contemporary persistence of racism in America offer more than adequate explanations for what should be considered a scandalous state of affairs in regard to race-based economic inequality.

    Many black children, for example, attend schools that once again are as segregated as they were in the 1960s, and they are far more likely to become trapped in a prison-industrial complex that the scholar Michelle Alexander has called “the new Jim Crow.”
     
    Obviously, since the Coleman report in the mid 1960s, anyone who's been paying attention knows that school quality isn't a demonstrably important factor. (Bad students lead to "bad" schools, not the other way around.) Although of course if the fascist carceral state hadn't started locking up en masse first time black non-violent marijuana offenders for life (who I'm led to believe comprise 72.3% of the prison population) those upstanding gentleman would naturally be choosing their pick of the litter on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, so Campos has a point there.

    From that quote you selected

    Conservatives like Charles Murray

    Last time I checked, Charles Murray was a libertarian not a conservative.

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  29. notice says:

    I wish there was a right-wing version of George Soros, who would build several hyoooge apartment farms in Bolder, Colorado. Then he could announce these apartment complexes all accept Section 8 vouchers, and he will be working with a nonprofit to bring in about 70,000 former housing project blacks from cities like Chicago and Baltimore to increase diversity in Boulder. He could further announce that he was working with whatever faith-based charity to resettle about 30 thousand Ghanan, Somali, Syrian, and Ethiopian refugees. We would get to see Paul Campos’ reaction to that. It would be such a pretty sight.

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    it would be pretty awesome to see a huge ring of Section 8 be erected around the entire CU campus, with a similarly huge pipeline set up to import the Somalis, Ghanan, don't forget the Hmong, refugees.

    Boulderites tend to be bit self-virtuous--but they don't want any Somalis coming to town. It would be hilarious to watch the mental gymnastics of Boulderites explaining why they don't want Somalis, but that they definitely aren't racist.
    , @Marty T
    Sounds like Boulder could use some HUD scrutiny and some "affordable housing". Ben Carson, where you at?
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  30. Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people? Anxiety and resentment among some white voters about those policies certainly seemed to benefit Donald Trump’s campaign last year, with its populist, ethno-nationalist message.

    The problem with this belief is that it is false.

    Is it really false? If you controlled for IQ, I’d bet that blacks are making more than whites because of these policies, and white people are picking up on this.

    Charles Blow and Sonia Sotomayor are good examples. Blow would be lucky to write filler for a local rag if his brain were to somehow find its way into a white body. A white Sotomayor would barely make it as a municipal traffic court judge.

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    A white Sotomayor wouldn't be a judge at all, unless she were related to a local machine boss.
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  31. Campos is a preening douche. He came
    to my attention when he “discovered” and claimed the spotlight foe his writings about the law school scam, years and years after other true leaders in the movement spent Herculean efforts to publicise the problem, demand publication of meaningful placement data, etc.

    Before that he was carrying on about obesity and body-mass indices (decades after that stuff had already been debunked as overly simplisitic).

    The guy collects a check for his tenure and professes everything but law; he is a typical academic douchenozzle and, as Seve rightly remarks, the guy has no clue about life in the real world.

    He’s not even a fast follower… he’s just late to the party.

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    The guy collects a check for his tenure and professes everything but law; he is a typical academic douchenozzle and, as Seve rightly remarks, the guy has no clue about life in the real world.
     
    Seve could be iSteve's pseudonym when criticizing Hispanics like Campos as a prophylactic against claims of racism.
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  32. Wilkey says:

    I wish there was a right-wing version of George Soros, who would build several hyoooge apartment farms in Bolder, Colorado. Then he could announce these apartment complexes all accept Section 8 vouchers

    Upper class leftist enclaves do a much better job guarding the gates. An independent developer would never get away with that, even if he was a billionaire. The federal government would have to force the city to build Section 8. Hmmm. If only there was a right-wing version of George Soros who also happened to be in charge of the executive branch.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ed
    I'm noticing an uptick in attacks from the media and academia on the white working class. The WSJ had an opinion piece about the working class and Trump. The Twitteri were up in arms after all aren't blacks working class?

    Trump's antics haven't sufficiently collapsed his support enough to cultural elite's liking. Things may yet get uglier.

    Blacks may be working class, but it’s a different sort of working class.

    It’s like there’s a certain type of person who has a deep fear and loathing of white Christianity, but seem to actually enjoy Black Christianity.

    I’m surprised some are so eager to play up this ‘white privilege’ angle. When the data suggests Jews are hyper-priveleged, it might be a better strategy not to focus on the concept at all. There’s a ‘glass house’ aspect you’d think they might take into account.

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    Any group measured by any "success" metric does better than blacks, therefore, they should really call it non-black "privilege" if they were honest.

    But what every other group has compared to blacks is really aggregate group advantage because group privileges are afforded to all group members and denied to all non-members, e. g., adult privilege (driving, buying a car, etc.)
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  34. Wilkey says:
    @King Baeksu

    Right or wrong, his data also doesn’t appear to account for all of the benefits handed out by government (EITC, food stamps, etc.)
     
    You've got that right:

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

    Professor Camos needs to distinguish between gross and net or take-home income. One suspects that "the income gap between black and white working-class Americans" would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.

    One suspects that “the income gap between black and white working-class Americans” would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.

    Yep, though there are good reasons for sometimes excluding such income transfers when making these calculations.

    But let’s compare two typical 1967 households to two typical 2017 households. 1967: a black household with two parents with maybe 1.5 full-time jobs between them versus a white household with two parents with the husband working full-time and the wife not working outside the home at all.

    Then 2017: a single black parent working a full-time job versus a white household with husband and wife both working full-time jobs.

    Those are the extreme examples, of course, but not all that far from reality. Thus the fact that the average black household still makes 55% of the average white household is surprising, but not for the reasons Paul Campos suggests. And that 55%, of course, excludes the income transfers to the black household. White couples are working more hours than in 1967, but with less to show for it.

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    Right, he should be comparing average earnings for individual women and men rather than household earnings. I only looked since 1979 rather than 1967, but the earnings gap between white men and black men and white women and black women has gotten substantially larger (though less so among married black families.)
    https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/09/23/some-day-well-walk-in-the-rays-of-a-beautiful-sun/comment-page-1/

    Low-skill workers in general are doing relatively worse than in 79, so blacks (who are disproportionately lower skilled) are doing relatively worse. More or less the Bell Curve story- we're a more cognitively stratified society than we were in 79, so racial gaps are magnified.
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  35. Stan says:

    Campos is a hispanic name. Since the rise of the alt-right and the greater awareness of the jewish role in the attack on white privilege, there has been an increase in articles by blacks, asians and hispanics attacking white privilege in jewish owned newspapers and magazines.

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    A few sources on Google says it's Sephardic Jewish.
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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Stan
    Campos is a hispanic name. Since the rise of the alt-right and the greater awareness of the jewish role in the attack on white privilege, there has been an increase in articles by blacks, asians and hispanics attacking white privilege in jewish owned newspapers and magazines.

    A few sources on Google says it’s Sephardic Jewish.

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  37. snorlax says:
    @Just Noticing

    Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people? Anxiety and resentment among some white voters about those policies certainly seemed to benefit Donald Trump’s campaign last year, with its populist, ethno-nationalist message.

    The problem with this belief is that it is false.
     
    Is it really false? If you controlled for IQ, I'd bet that blacks are making more than whites because of these policies, and white people are picking up on this.

    Charles Blow and Sonia Sotomayor are good examples. Blow would be lucky to write filler for a local rag if his brain were to somehow find its way into a white body. A white Sotomayor would barely make it as a municipal traffic court judge.

    A white Sotomayor wouldn’t be a judge at all, unless she were related to a local machine boss.

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    But Blacks have Welfare Privilege:

     

    Like the other victim culture people of diversity, Afro-Blacks have multiple federal-granted entitlements::


    1. Government enforced Affirmative Action for Afro-blacks
    2. Government 8A set-aside contracts for Afro-black owned businesses
    3. Deliberate broadcast media and government misrepresentation of violent felony Afro-black crime wave
    4. Frequent mass Afro-black rioting, assaulting, looting and arson without prosecution or suppression
    5. Afro-Black terrorists organizations operate freely in public (Black Panthers, NBPP, BLM, BLA, Crips, Nation of Islam)
    6. Servile government support for historically black colleges and afro-black scholarship programs
    7. Unprosecuted afro-black Panther intimidation of voters at polls
    8. Politically partisan Afro-black churches and associations granted tax exempt status
    9. Most Afro-black children’s welfare financed by taxpayers
    10.Government anti-discrimination laws for Afro-blacks
    11.Hate speech law prosecutions in favor of Afro-blacks, and other protected classes
    12.Preferential immigration, asylum, and citizenship for Afro-blacks
    13. Disproportionate number of Afro-blacks in cushy federal government employment
    14. Afro-black voters not required to display photo ID
    15. Unrealistic and flattering portrayal of Afro-blacks in movies and TV
    16. Afro-black civil right organizations financed and led by filthy rich protected class people
    17. Election of the most unbelievably stupid members of the US congress
    18. Afro-black dominated cities and colleges bailed out by county, state and federal taxpayer
    19. Afro-black history month
    20. Ridiculous Afro-black studies in public schools and colleges
    21. Astronomical Afro-black STD and HIV rates are not a controlled public health hazard
    22. Banks forced to give loans to Afro-blacks with bad credit
    23. White supremacists blamed for numerous Afro-black false flag hate crimes
    24. At least 70% of afro-black children are bastards
    25. Afro-black Caucus in the US congress
    26. Sanctuary cities for Afro-blacks, and other federal protected class groups
    27. Afro-black favored diversity supremacy scheme imposed onto white majority nations
    28. Afro-black athlete and rapper thugs glorified by mass media
    29. Afro-black on white people crime rate is wildly disproprotionate
    30. President of the US promotes undue entitlements for Afro-blacks and other diversity people
    31. Afro-black only organizations allowed by law, white-only organizations outlawed
    32. BLM terrorist demand and receive reduced policing in black majority areas
    33. Feds assist Afro-blacks to extort money and concessions from local city tax payers
    34. White Privilege nonsense taught in public schools and universities.
    35 Afro-black wilding assaults, flash mob robberies, mall riots, and knockout game is rampant and unprosecuted.
    36. Black scholarships allowed in public colleges, white scholarships are illegal.
    37. Feds give tax money to immigrant negroes to bribe them not to join ISIS.
    38. Lowered academic standards for afro-blacks and other diversity people in public service jobs
    39. Federal government coerces private businesses to implement diversity policies, or else suffer federal prosecution, denial of tax breaks and business licenses, and denial of federal contracts.
    40. Criminal blacks frequently conspire to assassinate police, no hate crime charges and no domestic terrorism label
    41. Obama signs EO forcing public schools to stop disciplining black thugs in school
    42. Blacks commit hoax hate crimes, and never are prosecuted for doing it.
    43. Blacks receive government sponsored grants to attend college, white Christian people get primarily loans.
    44. Frequent federal interference in local government prosecution of violent black criminals
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  39. By the time you rolled into Boulder, everybody was at home getting high and having sex.

    In the morning there are good places to have breakfast before you go on a mandatory hike in the mountains.

    Professors there have nice lives.

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  40. Can we please talk about Tide? Lots of Negroes are denied sufficient Tide to trade for malt liquor, sex, trees, and cigarillos, mane!

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    The photo of antitheft devices on bottles of detergent is priceless-

    http://www.aei.org/publication/the-tide-theft-phenomenon-why-has-the-laundry-detergent-become-such-a-hot-commodity-among-thieves-at-drugstores/print/
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  41. @STL
    Crony capitalist Gupta family in South Africa is in cahoots with President Jacob Zuma. South Africa press starts reporting this. Gupta family hires marketing firm in UK called BellPottinger to mount mis-direction campaign to distract from Zuma-Gupta corruption. BellPottinger campaign blames all of South Africa's economic problems on "white monopoly capital." Marketing campaign is run by white woman in London which whips up anti-white feelings in South Africa. Lots of problems created in effort to shield Gupta family. Eventually, the scam is discovered. Enjoy video below.

    Tim Bell was Mrs Thatcher’s right hand PR man back in the day – they were also awarded half a billion dollars of US cash not so long ago to do anti-ISIS disinformation in Iraq, not I’d have thought an obvious area of expertise for them . He seems a ‘colourful character’, as the business supplements say.

    “On 19 November 1977 Bell was fined £50 for indecency. He had exposed himself while masturbating at his Hampstead bathroom window on 21 October in full view of female passers-by”

    And Bell Pottinger appear to have quite a rep for editing Wikipedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Pottinger

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Bell,_Baron_Bell

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  42. @slumber_j
    Your point about households strikes me as true.

    Here's another question: are Blacks being counted now as legacy Blacks--i.e. descendants of African slaves in the US--plus immigrant blacks? I ask this because in NYC where I live, there are plenty of Black immigrants, and immigrants tend to be poor.

    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

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    Thanks. I'd known about West Indians' relative success, but not the rest.
    , @BB753
    Somalis, single-handedly propping up American GDP! America needs millions of them! We'd better hurry up, there are only 14 million of them left in Somalia, and those greedy Swedes and British want them so badly to boost their own economies!
    , @Ed
    The Somali number is atrocious there really is no need for them to be allowed to immigrate here.
    , @Thomm
    By the second generation, don't they vanish into the general black population (and become ghetto losers)?
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  43. These articles where the evidence states one result plainly and clearly (anti-discrimination and affirmative action policies have failed, it must be something else (like genetics) that explains the empirical evidence) while the text gives the completely opposite conclusion in words (in fifty years of herculean efforts, the policies must just not have been tried hard enough yet) are very odd to me. I assume most thoughtful people who read this article reach the obvious conclusions, despite the genuflecting of the author toward the Mainstream Narrative. The NYTimes comments section has been washed clean of any mention of HBD, but I bet that they had to block lots of sensible comments.

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    These articles where the evidence states one result plainly and clearly (anti-discrimination and affirmative action policies have failed, it must be something else (like genetics) that explains the empirical evidence) while the text gives the completely opposite conclusion in words (in fifty years of herculean efforts, the policies must just not have been tried hard enough yet) are very odd to me. I assume most thoughtful people who read this article reach the obvious conclusions, despite the genuflecting of the author toward the Mainstream Narrative. The NYTimes comments section has been washed clean of any mention of HBD, but I bet that they had to block lots of sensible comments.
     
    I think this works like an ideological/religious loyalty test, like when the spaceship doesn't land to pick up the cult or the world doesn't end on the appointed date and the cult is called upon to express faith in the revised date and redouble their support to make the event come to pass.

    When I was a kid in school and there was a forecast for snow, the nuns used to tell the class that it would only snow if and when we were sufficiently quiet and did our work in silence. I think we all knew this was patent nonsense by the second grade, however no one wanted to be the one to break the silence and risk ruining the early dismissal for inclement weather. No good liberal wants to be the one that questions the efficacy of these efforts towards outcome equality because they will be treated not as a critic but as a heretic whose failure to wish the results into being is itself a cause of the failure.
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  44. G Pinfold says:
    @anon
    OT: I just today learned of Roger Ailes' death two months ago. How had I missed this?

    It probably wouldn't withstand statistical scrutiny, but it's interesting (stress->heart attack notwithstanding) how disgraced persons seemingly die soon after their downfalls. Ken Lay and Joe Paterno come to mind.

    I don’t know the specifics of this case, but the arrow of causation likely points the other way: people weakened by illness make mistakes and their lives go to to shit before they die. The ultimate insult is that people stand over their graves saying: ‘See? He was a bad dude and that is why he is now dead, Karma.’

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    It could be, but there is a well-remarked (studied?) phenomenon in which sick or elderly people can hold out for "one last Christmas" or a relative's birthday, etc. So it wouldn't be surprising if the fallen lose motivation to live.
    , @res
    Thanks for pointing out this possibility, but may I offer a third possibility? The arrow of causation works both ways thus creating a vicious cycle.

    Your last sentence is important. It is incredibly unfair to judge someone only by their actions in the time leading up to their death.
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  45. I never knew how those Boulderites could exist with such a low % of diversity. They emit a few puffs of smoke once in a while and talk about ‘affordable housing’ etc. but their heart really isn’t it.

    Their heart really isn’t into the multicultural, diversity business although they sure talk about it a lot esp over at the lily white/white bread/white white white CU campus. They like their exclusive white utopia more or less the way it is.

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    Boulder is the whitest fucking place I ever spent much time in. It makes Asheville seem hood.
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  46. @notice
    I wish there was a right-wing version of George Soros, who would build several hyoooge apartment farms in Bolder, Colorado. Then he could announce these apartment complexes all accept Section 8 vouchers, and he will be working with a nonprofit to bring in about 70,000 former housing project blacks from cities like Chicago and Baltimore to increase diversity in Boulder. He could further announce that he was working with whatever faith-based charity to resettle about 30 thousand Ghanan, Somali, Syrian, and Ethiopian refugees. We would get to see Paul Campos' reaction to that. It would be such a pretty sight.

    it would be pretty awesome to see a huge ring of Section 8 be erected around the entire CU campus, with a similarly huge pipeline set up to import the Somalis, Ghanan, don’t forget the Hmong, refugees.

    Boulderites tend to be bit self-virtuous–but they don’t want any Somalis coming to town. It would be hilarious to watch the mental gymnastics of Boulderites explaining why they don’t want Somalis, but that they definitely aren’t racist.

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    Why of course it is because those apartments would be going onto lands earmarked to protect the Boulder Spotted Newt and the great Colorado Hornbeaked Owl. It would be an environmental catastrophe to let such a thing occur. Much better to put them into places like Kansas where those hillbillies know nothing anyway about protecting the environment and, being filled with all these Southern white people, could frankly use some more diversity enrichment to save their state by bringing in these great enterprising first generation immigrant African peoples.
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  47. @Wilkey
    One suspects that “the income gap between black and white working-class Americans” would be narrowed considerably when taking tax-money transfers into account, which tend to flow from white to black rather than vice versa.

    Yep, though there are good reasons for sometimes excluding such income transfers when making these calculations.

    But let's compare two typical 1967 households to two typical 2017 households. 1967: a black household with two parents with maybe 1.5 full-time jobs between them versus a white household with two parents with the husband working full-time and the wife not working outside the home at all.

    Then 2017: a single black parent working a full-time job versus a white household with husband and wife both working full-time jobs.

    Those are the extreme examples, of course, but not all that far from reality. Thus the fact that the average black household still makes 55% of the average white household is surprising, but not for the reasons Paul Campos suggests. And that 55%, of course, excludes the income transfers to the black household. White couples are working more hours than in 1967, but with less to show for it.

    Right, he should be comparing average earnings for individual women and men rather than household earnings. I only looked since 1979 rather than 1967, but the earnings gap between white men and black men and white women and black women has gotten substantially larger (though less so among married black families.)

    https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/09/23/some-day-well-walk-in-the-rays-of-a-beautiful-sun/comment-page-1/

    Low-skill workers in general are doing relatively worse than in 79, so blacks (who are disproportionately lower skilled) are doing relatively worse. More or less the Bell Curve story- we’re a more cognitively stratified society than we were in 79, so racial gaps are magnified.

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    Thanks for the interesting comment, and the link. It is clear (as you note in the link) that the category "married black male" has changed characteristics, becoming more employable with higher average income, as the proportion in this category has declined over recent decades.
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  48. @anonguy

    Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early.
     
    That is my observation about liberal whitopias in general. In a lot of ways, they are like prosperous medieval towns but with iPhones.

    I noticed that about boulder as well. We needed to get some pharmacy supplies about 10pm Saturday night recently and we had to drive miles to find a open Walgreens The city seemed very quiet.

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  49. Steve this ties into your recent post about the relatively low salaries graduates of prestigious universities like Harvard ad Stanford are earning, compared to their tuition costs. These schools have been hell bent on diluting their stock with affirmative action admissions for several years now. These marginally qualified graduates are going to hit a ceiling on income in the real world. Someone should study the lost income opportunity cost of not letting in better qualified whites who had to settle for state schools

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  50. CK says:
    @anonguy

    Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early.
     
    That is my observation about liberal whitopias in general. In a lot of ways, they are like prosperous medieval towns but with iPhones.

    When the sidewalks are rolled up, there is no place for the diverse to congregate.
    Rolled up sidewalks are the current version of Sundown Laws.

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    Something tells me during the school year stuff stays open later in Boulder.
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  51. CK says:
    @Whiskey
    Why is anyone surprised? White women unless constrained tend towards Marie Antoinette. And the White upper class is highly feminized. Let them eat organic arugala.

    I actually tried to click the agree button there.

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  52. @Spotted Toad
    Right, he should be comparing average earnings for individual women and men rather than household earnings. I only looked since 1979 rather than 1967, but the earnings gap between white men and black men and white women and black women has gotten substantially larger (though less so among married black families.)
    https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/09/23/some-day-well-walk-in-the-rays-of-a-beautiful-sun/comment-page-1/

    Low-skill workers in general are doing relatively worse than in 79, so blacks (who are disproportionately lower skilled) are doing relatively worse. More or less the Bell Curve story- we're a more cognitively stratified society than we were in 79, so racial gaps are magnified.

    Thanks for the interesting comment, and the link. It is clear (as you note in the link) that the category “married black male” has changed characteristics, becoming more employable with higher average income, as the proportion in this category has declined over recent decades.

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  53. Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?

    Is the white working class losing economic ground due to policies intended to improve the lives of blacks, or is it due to offshoring, immigration, and a general vilification of the white working class by the media? When the first sentence comes right out of the box and frames it like it does, not only does it prove the vilification part, it shows an attempt by the author to fan the flames of driving the races further apart.

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  54. It saddens me that Paul Campos is afflicted with terminal Progressivism, because his “Inside the Law School Scam” blog did yeoman’s work in exposing said scam.

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    Yes, Paul Campos is in fact smarter than this. But seeing the debate shift from Ideas to Peoples has a lot of ideologues, especially conservative ones, unhinged.
    , @Autochthon
    No it did not. It was tantamount to some mediocre academic writing about affordable family formation, the first law of female journalism, the differences between lesbians and male homosexuals, and the ramifications of invading and inviting the world, then giving an interview or two to The New York Times about his expertise and development of these ideas.

    The guy is an opportunistic parasite.
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  55. slumber_j says:
    @Triumph104
    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    Thanks. I’d known about West Indians’ relative success, but not the rest.

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  56. Bugg says:

    Buried lede of the century-AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DOESN’T WORK.

    These numbers should shock us. Consider that in the mid-1960s, Jim Crow practices were still being dismantled and affirmative action hardly existed. Yet a half-century of initiatives intended to combat the effects of centuries of virulent racism appear to have done nothing to ameliorate inequality between white and black America. …”

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  57. Bugg says:
    @Autochthon
    Can we please talk about Tide? Lots of Negroes are denied sufficient Tide to trade for malt liquor, sex, trees, and cigarillos, mane!
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  58. @Autochthon
    Campos is a preening douche. He came
    to my attention when he "discovered" and claimed the spotlight foe his writings about the law school scam, years and years after other true leaders in the movement spent Herculean efforts to publicise the problem, demand publication of meaningful placement data, etc.

    Before that he was carrying on about obesity and body-mass indices (decades after that stuff had already been debunked as overly simplisitic).

    The guy collects a check for his tenure and professes everything but law; he is a typical academic douchenozzle and, as Seve rightly remarks, the guy has no clue about life in the real world.

    He's not even a fast follower... he's just late to the party.

    The guy collects a check for his tenure and professes everything but law; he is a typical academic douchenozzle and, as Seve rightly remarks, the guy has no clue about life in the real world.

    Seve could be iSteve’s pseudonym when criticizing Hispanics like Campos as a prophylactic against claims of racism.

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    Hee hee. I really miss that editing feature.

    By the way, Campos is one of those conquistador-Americans: to look at him, he is as mestizoid or Amerindian as Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio (Rubio always cracks me up: it's right there in his name that he is white, for crying out loud!). I'm sure Campos, like those characters, never misses an opportunity to claim cash and prizes for himself as a magical mud person, though; Hell, it's probably at least half of how he got his appointment.
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  59. According to The Narrative, the only acceptable explanation for disparate economic outcomes is the moral turpitude of White Christians.

    If Jews and Asians are more economically successful than White Christians, the only acceptable explanation is the laziness of White Christians.

    If Blacks and Mestizos are less economically successful than White Christians, the only acceptable explanation is that White Christians are holding them down.

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  60. Flemur says:

    Hmmm.

    policies intended to improve the lives of black people

    don’t work because

    The income gap remains every bit as extreme as it was five decades ago.

    So why aren’t those policies abolished?

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    Well said..and many metrics demonstrate worse outcome for Blacks today, such as 80% of Black births to single mothers.
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  61. @anonguy

    Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early.
     
    That is my observation about liberal whitopias in general. In a lot of ways, they are like prosperous medieval towns but with iPhones.

    Well said. Medieval towns with invisible “moats” that are discussed frequently here but are powerful because they are invisible to other observers.

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  62. peterike says:

    He sure looks plenty Hispanic.

    His blog is one long hysterical anti-Trump screed. But it’s open for comments, so have at it.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/author/paul-campos

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    a significant amount of central american ancestry is mixed jewish-black from the sugar plantations set up on the atlantic islands after the reconquista
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  63. @Buck Turgidson
    I never knew how those Boulderites could exist with such a low % of diversity. They emit a few puffs of smoke once in a while and talk about 'affordable housing' etc. but their heart really isn't it.

    Their heart really isn't into the multicultural, diversity business although they sure talk about it a lot esp over at the lily white/white bread/white white white CU campus. They like their exclusive white utopia more or less the way it is.

    Boulder is the whitest fucking place I ever spent much time in. It makes Asheville seem hood.

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    Boulder has the resources to get more minorities there if they really wanted them. They white liberal hypocrites there like living in their white bread low-crime no diversity bubble. They are down with the cause, power to the people, all that, but they would rather drive to Denver with that rally with non-white people than have any of them live in Boulder. They also do a good job of keeping out poor white people. It's hard to see that they really care much at all for diversity beyond lip service.
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  64. @Peter Johnson
    These articles where the evidence states one result plainly and clearly (anti-discrimination and affirmative action policies have failed, it must be something else (like genetics) that explains the empirical evidence) while the text gives the completely opposite conclusion in words (in fifty years of herculean efforts, the policies must just not have been tried hard enough yet) are very odd to me. I assume most thoughtful people who read this article reach the obvious conclusions, despite the genuflecting of the author toward the Mainstream Narrative. The NYTimes comments section has been washed clean of any mention of HBD, but I bet that they had to block lots of sensible comments.

    These articles where the evidence states one result plainly and clearly (anti-discrimination and affirmative action policies have failed, it must be something else (like genetics) that explains the empirical evidence) while the text gives the completely opposite conclusion in words (in fifty years of herculean efforts, the policies must just not have been tried hard enough yet) are very odd to me. I assume most thoughtful people who read this article reach the obvious conclusions, despite the genuflecting of the author toward the Mainstream Narrative. The NYTimes comments section has been washed clean of any mention of HBD, but I bet that they had to block lots of sensible comments.

    I think this works like an ideological/religious loyalty test, like when the spaceship doesn’t land to pick up the cult or the world doesn’t end on the appointed date and the cult is called upon to express faith in the revised date and redouble their support to make the event come to pass.

    When I was a kid in school and there was a forecast for snow, the nuns used to tell the class that it would only snow if and when we were sufficiently quiet and did our work in silence. I think we all knew this was patent nonsense by the second grade, however no one wanted to be the one to break the silence and risk ruining the early dismissal for inclement weather. No good liberal wants to be the one that questions the efficacy of these efforts towards outcome equality because they will be treated not as a critic but as a heretic whose failure to wish the results into being is itself a cause of the failure.

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  65. BB753 says:
    @Triumph104
    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    Somalis, single-handedly propping up American GDP! America needs millions of them! We’d better hurry up, there are only 14 million of them left in Somalia, and those greedy Swedes and British want them so badly to boost their own economies!

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  66. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “White Economic Privilege Is Alive and Well”

    Headline in “The Paper of Record” read by The Important People including, no doubt, Hillary of Chappaqua of “Deplorables ” fame. Wonder if she may now consider converting the estate into Section 8 housing

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  67. @Alec Leamas

    The guy collects a check for his tenure and professes everything but law; he is a typical academic douchenozzle and, as Seve rightly remarks, the guy has no clue about life in the real world.
     
    Seve could be iSteve's pseudonym when criticizing Hispanics like Campos as a prophylactic against claims of racism.

    Hee hee. I really miss that editing feature.

    By the way, Campos is one of those conquistador-Americans: to look at him, he is as mestizoid or Amerindian as Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio (Rubio always cracks me up: it’s right there in his name that he is white, for crying out loud!). I’m sure Campos, like those characters, never misses an opportunity to claim cash and prizes for himself as a magical mud person, though; Hell, it’s probably at least half of how he got his appointment.

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  68. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?

    The problem with this belief is that it is false. The income gap between black and white working-class Americans, like the gap between black and white Americans at every income level, remains every bit as extreme as it was five decades ago.

    the media, filthy liars that they are, lying filthily – as usual

    mass immigration to drive down wages was not introduced to help black people it was introduced to make more money for the greedy oligarch sociopaths who own the filthy media

    (This is also true of the income gap between Hispanic and white Americans.)

    but not Asians or Jews which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the filthy media are consciously and deliberately anti-white.

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  69. @G Pinfold
    I don't know the specifics of this case, but the arrow of causation likely points the other way: people weakened by illness make mistakes and their lives go to to shit before they die. The ultimate insult is that people stand over their graves saying: 'See? He was a bad dude and that is why he is now dead, Karma.'

    It could be, but there is a well-remarked (studied?) phenomenon in which sick or elderly people can hold out for “one last Christmas” or a relative’s birthday, etc. So it wouldn’t be surprising if the fallen lose motivation to live.

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  70. anon says: • Disclaimer

    i wish people wouldn’t fall so easily for the evil media’s dishonest misdirection

    they make it white vs black or white vs hispanic to deflect attention from white vs asian (or white vs jewish) because the two latter gaps simply and easily refutes their point and proves their consciously anti-white agenda

    chasing after the divide and rule stick the media throw – white vs black – misses the point completely

    (if anything blacks have been most harmed by mass immigration and so black welfare and affirmative action was created as a sop to keep them quiet)

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  71. @Clark Westwood
    It saddens me that Paul Campos is afflicted with terminal Progressivism, because his "Inside the Law School Scam" blog did yeoman's work in exposing said scam.

    Yes, Paul Campos is in fact smarter than this. But seeing the debate shift from Ideas to Peoples has a lot of ideologues, especially conservative ones, unhinged.

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    billionaire sociopaths pay GOPe to provide them with mass immigration for cheap labor and they also pay journalists to deny the negative consequences of that mass immigration.

    as they're being paid to lie they can't help but tie themselves in logical knots.
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  72. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @peterike
    He sure looks plenty Hispanic.

    http://lawweb.colorado.edu/profiles/pics/campos.jpg

    His blog is one long hysterical anti-Trump screed. But it's open for comments, so have at it.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/author/paul-campos

    a significant amount of central american ancestry is mixed jewish-black from the sugar plantations set up on the atlantic islands after the reconquista

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  73. L Woods says:
    @slumber_j
    Your point about households strikes me as true.

    Here's another question: are Blacks being counted now as legacy Blacks--i.e. descendants of African slaves in the US--plus immigrant blacks? I ask this because in NYC where I live, there are plenty of Black immigrants, and immigrants tend to be poor.

    In my (admittedly limited) experience, black immigrants are indeed jumping on the grievance gravy train as self-identified “African-Americans.” Naturally, their claim to victim points is justified by the ongoing pernicious and pervasive sinister humors of white supremacy, etc, even though their ancestors arrived on these shores well after the dismantlement of segregation etc. Actual African-Americans seem remarkably accepting of this brazen parasitism.

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  74. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Yes, Paul Campos is in fact smarter than this. But seeing the debate shift from Ideas to Peoples has a lot of ideologues, especially conservative ones, unhinged.

    billionaire sociopaths pay GOPe to provide them with mass immigration for cheap labor and they also pay journalists to deny the negative consequences of that mass immigration.

    as they’re being paid to lie they can’t help but tie themselves in logical knots.

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  75. @Clark Westwood
    It saddens me that Paul Campos is afflicted with terminal Progressivism, because his "Inside the Law School Scam" blog did yeoman's work in exposing said scam.

    No it did not. It was tantamount to some mediocre academic writing about affordable family formation, the first law of female journalism, the differences between lesbians and male homosexuals, and the ramifications of invading and inviting the world, then giving an interview or two to The New York Times about his expertise and development of these ideas.

    The guy is an opportunistic parasite.

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    I could not disagree more. He was the first law professor to say plainly, to the public at large (as opposed to fellow academics), in short sentences and words of one syllable, that the law-school industry was actually lying to kids and ripping them off. He was the first person on the inside to say that the "scambloggers" -- whom the law-school industry had been dismissing as bitter losers with bad grades -- were actually right. He took a lot of heat for that from fellow academics. Granted, he had tenure, but being a professional pariah is still not pleasant.
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  76. FWIW – As a professor at U Colo law school he is a former colleague of SC Justice Goresuch.

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  77. Marty T says:
    @notice
    I wish there was a right-wing version of George Soros, who would build several hyoooge apartment farms in Bolder, Colorado. Then he could announce these apartment complexes all accept Section 8 vouchers, and he will be working with a nonprofit to bring in about 70,000 former housing project blacks from cities like Chicago and Baltimore to increase diversity in Boulder. He could further announce that he was working with whatever faith-based charity to resettle about 30 thousand Ghanan, Somali, Syrian, and Ethiopian refugees. We would get to see Paul Campos' reaction to that. It would be such a pretty sight.

    Sounds like Boulder could use some HUD scrutiny and some “affordable housing”. Ben Carson, where you at?

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  78. Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?

    How many times did Trump or any Trump supporter mention blacks during the election cycle? Blacks and Latin American immigrants are just one undifferentiated mass of color in the minds of progressives.

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  79. @Flemur
    Hmmm.

    policies intended to improve the lives of black people

    don't work because

    The income gap remains every bit as extreme as it was five decades ago.

    So why aren't those policies abolished?

    Well said..and many metrics demonstrate worse outcome for Blacks today, such as 80% of Black births to single mothers.

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  80. Stogumber says:

    One of the interesting points: leftists are obsessed with judging the quality of life by the comparative advantage between groups. White workers are yet relatively better off than Blacks, so where’s their problem? Whereas real persons tend to judge their life by development over time: Am I better or worse off than I was in my younger days (resp. than my parents were)? So, leftists have no grip to the common man’s feeling.

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  81. Ed says:
    @Triumph104
    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    The Somali number is atrocious there really is no need for them to be allowed to immigrate here.

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    The only reason you would bring most such lower IQ groups into western countries is if you wanted to use them as a biological weapon to destroy the host population. Yet that seems to be what's being done.
    , @Thomm
    I agree. They (Somalis) are also violent and partake in Islamic terrorism.

    But should household income be the primary determinant of immigration? By that metric, Indians and Filipinos are the two most qualified groups...

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  82. res says:
    @G Pinfold
    I don't know the specifics of this case, but the arrow of causation likely points the other way: people weakened by illness make mistakes and their lives go to to shit before they die. The ultimate insult is that people stand over their graves saying: 'See? He was a bad dude and that is why he is now dead, Karma.'

    Thanks for pointing out this possibility, but may I offer a third possibility? The arrow of causation works both ways thus creating a vicious cycle.

    Your last sentence is important. It is incredibly unfair to judge someone only by their actions in the time leading up to their death.

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  83. @newrouter
    "Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?"

    Yes next question.

    Actually, the NYT’s own graphic shows that at the 40th percentile, which is pretty much mid-working class, there are black gains/white losses, so the NYT’s own graphic certainly implies that the answer to the editorial’s opening sentence,

    “Is the white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?”

    is “Yes.”

    Somehow the next thousand words ignore this.

    #WhyINoLongerReadNYT

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  84. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Boulder is the whitest fucking place I ever spent much time in. It makes Asheville seem hood.

    Boulder has the resources to get more minorities there if they really wanted them. They white liberal hypocrites there like living in their white bread low-crime no diversity bubble. They are down with the cause, power to the people, all that, but they would rather drive to Denver with that rally with non-white people than have any of them live in Boulder. They also do a good job of keeping out poor white people. It’s hard to see that they really care much at all for diversity beyond lip service.

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  85. @Anonymous
    Blacks may be working class, but it's a different sort of working class.

    It's like there's a certain type of person who has a deep fear and loathing of white Christianity, but seem to actually enjoy Black Christianity.

    I'm surprised some are so eager to play up this 'white privilege' angle. When the data suggests Jews are hyper-priveleged, it might be a better strategy not to focus on the concept at all. There's a 'glass house' aspect you'd think they might take into account.

    Any group measured by any “success” metric does better than blacks, therefore, they should really call it non-black “privilege” if they were honest.

    But what every other group has compared to blacks is really aggregate group advantage because group privileges are afforded to all group members and denied to all non-members, e. g., adult privilege (driving, buying a car, etc.)

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  86. Saxon says:
    @Ed
    The Somali number is atrocious there really is no need for them to be allowed to immigrate here.

    The only reason you would bring most such lower IQ groups into western countries is if you wanted to use them as a biological weapon to destroy the host population. Yet that seems to be what’s being done.

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  87. agathon says:

    heh heh …
    That’s … kewl
    heh heh.

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  89. @jim jones
    But Blacks have Welfare Privilege:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/30/seven-food-stamp-recipients-pleaded-guilty-taking-part-5-million-food-stamp-fraud/

    But Blacks have Welfare Privilege:

    Like the other victim culture people of diversity, Afro-Blacks have multiple federal-granted entitlements::

    1. Government enforced Affirmative Action for Afro-blacks
    2. Government 8A set-aside contracts for Afro-black owned businesses
    3. Deliberate broadcast media and government misrepresentation of violent felony Afro-black crime wave
    4. Frequent mass Afro-black rioting, assaulting, looting and arson without prosecution or suppression
    5. Afro-Black terrorists organizations operate freely in public (Black Panthers, NBPP, BLM, BLA, Crips, Nation of Islam)
    6. Servile government support for historically black colleges and afro-black scholarship programs
    7. Unprosecuted afro-black Panther intimidation of voters at polls
    8. Politically partisan Afro-black churches and associations granted tax exempt status
    9. Most Afro-black children’s welfare financed by taxpayers
    10.Government anti-discrimination laws for Afro-blacks
    11.Hate speech law prosecutions in favor of Afro-blacks, and other protected classes
    12.Preferential immigration, asylum, and citizenship for Afro-blacks
    13. Disproportionate number of Afro-blacks in cushy federal government employment
    14. Afro-black voters not required to display photo ID
    15. Unrealistic and flattering portrayal of Afro-blacks in movies and TV
    16. Afro-black civil right organizations financed and led by filthy rich protected class people
    17. Election of the most unbelievably stupid members of the US congress
    18. Afro-black dominated cities and colleges bailed out by county, state and federal taxpayer
    19. Afro-black history month
    20. Ridiculous Afro-black studies in public schools and colleges
    21. Astronomical Afro-black STD and HIV rates are not a controlled public health hazard
    22. Banks forced to give loans to Afro-blacks with bad credit
    23. White supremacists blamed for numerous Afro-black false flag hate crimes
    24. At least 70% of afro-black children are bastards
    25. Afro-black Caucus in the US congress
    26. Sanctuary cities for Afro-blacks, and other federal protected class groups
    27. Afro-black favored diversity supremacy scheme imposed onto white majority nations
    28. Afro-black athlete and rapper thugs glorified by mass media
    29. Afro-black on white people crime rate is wildly disproprotionate
    30. President of the US promotes undue entitlements for Afro-blacks and other diversity people
    31. Afro-black only organizations allowed by law, white-only organizations outlawed
    32. BLM terrorist demand and receive reduced policing in black majority areas
    33. Feds assist Afro-blacks to extort money and concessions from local city tax payers
    34. White Privilege nonsense taught in public schools and universities.
    35 Afro-black wilding assaults, flash mob robberies, mall riots, and knockout game is rampant and unprosecuted.
    36. Black scholarships allowed in public colleges, white scholarships are illegal.
    37. Feds give tax money to immigrant negroes to bribe them not to join ISIS.
    38. Lowered academic standards for afro-blacks and other diversity people in public service jobs
    39. Federal government coerces private businesses to implement diversity policies, or else suffer federal prosecution, denial of tax breaks and business licenses, and denial of federal contracts.
    40. Criminal blacks frequently conspire to assassinate police, no hate crime charges and no domestic terrorism label
    41. Obama signs EO forcing public schools to stop disciplining black thugs in school
    42. Blacks commit hoax hate crimes, and never are prosecuted for doing it.
    43. Blacks receive government sponsored grants to attend college, white Christian people get primarily loans.
    44. Frequent federal interference in local government prosecution of violent black criminals

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  90. Jewish and Asian people, both being a non-white (non-European) ethnic group, are richer per capita than the average white person is in the US.

    This claim is a verifiable fact, although the NYT would be very hesitant to admit this fact.

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for the NYT to kvetch about a Jewish-Black income gap or a Asian-Black income gap.

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  91. Campos writes some claptrap in the New York Times that basically tells Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) to shut the hell up. Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party told WWCDs to shut the hell up too. That is why President Trump was elected. The Democrat Party is led by people who hate WWCDs.

    Thomas Edsall has for many years now been telling the Democrat Party that they have a problem getting the votes of Whites Without College Degrees. Hillary Clinton must skip over Thomas Edsall articles.

    Hillary Clinton cooked up a campaign that would be just great for the upper middle class slobs who live in Chappaqua, New York. Chappaqua is the mostly-White town Hillary Clinton moved to in an effort to avoid living around Blacks or Latinos. Hillary Clinton needed more White votes than are represented by the upper middle class White boob Chappaqua slobs who love her so.

    Edsall back in 2014 warns Democrat Party about their problem getting the votes of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs):

    The Demise of the White Democratic Voter https://nyti.ms/2udJJdM

    President Trump put together a winning coalition of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) and wealthier, college educated Whites. President Trump won the support of Whites in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Add Florida to the electoral college tally, and Whites Without College Degrees are seen to be the decisive voter base that boosted President Trump into office.

    Campos can keep up the nasty anti-White stuff in the New York Times. It just fuels the fire to smash the anti-White rats in the Democrat Party.

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  92. This is utter horse shit. These articles always do the same bullshit and just add up all the incomes and then take an average.

    Thomas Sowell disproved this lie decades ago. As one takes into account, education, job type, experience level, etc. etc. the differences all but disappear.

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  93. @Joe Franklin

    But Blacks have Welfare Privilege:

     

    Like the other victim culture people of diversity, Afro-Blacks have multiple federal-granted entitlements::


    1. Government enforced Affirmative Action for Afro-blacks
    2. Government 8A set-aside contracts for Afro-black owned businesses
    3. Deliberate broadcast media and government misrepresentation of violent felony Afro-black crime wave
    4. Frequent mass Afro-black rioting, assaulting, looting and arson without prosecution or suppression
    5. Afro-Black terrorists organizations operate freely in public (Black Panthers, NBPP, BLM, BLA, Crips, Nation of Islam)
    6. Servile government support for historically black colleges and afro-black scholarship programs
    7. Unprosecuted afro-black Panther intimidation of voters at polls
    8. Politically partisan Afro-black churches and associations granted tax exempt status
    9. Most Afro-black children’s welfare financed by taxpayers
    10.Government anti-discrimination laws for Afro-blacks
    11.Hate speech law prosecutions in favor of Afro-blacks, and other protected classes
    12.Preferential immigration, asylum, and citizenship for Afro-blacks
    13. Disproportionate number of Afro-blacks in cushy federal government employment
    14. Afro-black voters not required to display photo ID
    15. Unrealistic and flattering portrayal of Afro-blacks in movies and TV
    16. Afro-black civil right organizations financed and led by filthy rich protected class people
    17. Election of the most unbelievably stupid members of the US congress
    18. Afro-black dominated cities and colleges bailed out by county, state and federal taxpayer
    19. Afro-black history month
    20. Ridiculous Afro-black studies in public schools and colleges
    21. Astronomical Afro-black STD and HIV rates are not a controlled public health hazard
    22. Banks forced to give loans to Afro-blacks with bad credit
    23. White supremacists blamed for numerous Afro-black false flag hate crimes
    24. At least 70% of afro-black children are bastards
    25. Afro-black Caucus in the US congress
    26. Sanctuary cities for Afro-blacks, and other federal protected class groups
    27. Afro-black favored diversity supremacy scheme imposed onto white majority nations
    28. Afro-black athlete and rapper thugs glorified by mass media
    29. Afro-black on white people crime rate is wildly disproprotionate
    30. President of the US promotes undue entitlements for Afro-blacks and other diversity people
    31. Afro-black only organizations allowed by law, white-only organizations outlawed
    32. BLM terrorist demand and receive reduced policing in black majority areas
    33. Feds assist Afro-blacks to extort money and concessions from local city tax payers
    34. White Privilege nonsense taught in public schools and universities.
    35 Afro-black wilding assaults, flash mob robberies, mall riots, and knockout game is rampant and unprosecuted.
    36. Black scholarships allowed in public colleges, white scholarships are illegal.
    37. Feds give tax money to immigrant negroes to bribe them not to join ISIS.
    38. Lowered academic standards for afro-blacks and other diversity people in public service jobs
    39. Federal government coerces private businesses to implement diversity policies, or else suffer federal prosecution, denial of tax breaks and business licenses, and denial of federal contracts.
    40. Criminal blacks frequently conspire to assassinate police, no hate crime charges and no domestic terrorism label
    41. Obama signs EO forcing public schools to stop disciplining black thugs in school
    42. Blacks commit hoax hate crimes, and never are prosecuted for doing it.
    43. Blacks receive government sponsored grants to attend college, white Christian people get primarily loans.
    44. Frequent federal interference in local government prosecution of violent black criminals

    45. the usage of certain words that could get a white man killed for using……legally.

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  94. Marty T says:
    @CK
    When the sidewalks are rolled up, there is no place for the diverse to congregate.
    Rolled up sidewalks are the current version of Sundown Laws.

    Something tells me during the school year stuff stays open later in Boulder.

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  95. Luke Lea says:

    “white working class losing economic ground because of policies intended to improve the lives of black people?” No doubt referring to trade and immigration.

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  96. @slumber_j
    Your point about households strikes me as true.

    Here's another question: are Blacks being counted now as legacy Blacks--i.e. descendants of African slaves in the US--plus immigrant blacks? I ask this because in NYC where I live, there are plenty of Black immigrants, and immigrants tend to be poor.

    Black married fertility is no longer very historical-American black. Married black fertility is split between immigrants, their descendants and historical-American black women married to nonblack or black immigrant men with a rump end of historical-American blacks married to each other. Unmarried black fertility is massively historical-American black.

    Functional historical-American black women of childbearing age avoid childbearing and have been doing so in bigger and bigger numbers since the 1970s and especially since the 1990s.

    The demographics of black America have changed a lot in recent decades.

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    Feminist and queer and welfare government entitlements have had a huge effect on marriage rates in all ethnic communities, not just Afro-Black communities.

    Cost-free abortion-on-demand is one of the federal entitlements that Afro-Black queers and feminist and poor Black people vote for reliably and take advantage of profusely.

    There is a much larger number of Afro-Black heterosexual queers (sodomites) than homosexual Black queers.

    That fact explains why STDs are epidemic in Afro-Black communities and explains why Afro-Black fertility rates are significantly impacted by epidemic STD infections.

    STD's kill and gravely injure fetuses.
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  97. Luke Lea says:

    “Now, you might think that being a professor in Boulder, of all places, might lead you to notice slightly fresher things about working class white privilege …” except for the fact that there are no working class people in Boulder, which I can attest to from personal experience. Even the checkout girls at Kmart have advanced degrees, while the painters and carpenters are aspiring banjo players and fly fishermen. Psychotherapists are a dime a dozen, but the really big money is in group therapy training sessions for other therapists. Saw a sign on the Safeway bulletin board advertising an astral support group.

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  98. MBlanc46 says:
    @anonguy

    Something that surprised me about Boulder was that it rolls up the sidewalk early.
     
    That is my observation about liberal whitopias in general. In a lot of ways, they are like prosperous medieval towns but with iPhones.

    Perhaps we retire early because we have to get up early to go to work.

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  99. @The Practical Conservative
    Black married fertility is no longer very historical-American black. Married black fertility is split between immigrants, their descendants and historical-American black women married to nonblack or black immigrant men with a rump end of historical-American blacks married to each other. Unmarried black fertility is massively historical-American black.

    Functional historical-American black women of childbearing age avoid childbearing and have been doing so in bigger and bigger numbers since the 1970s and especially since the 1990s.

    The demographics of black America have changed a lot in recent decades.

    Feminist and queer and welfare government entitlements have had a huge effect on marriage rates in all ethnic communities, not just Afro-Black communities.

    Cost-free abortion-on-demand is one of the federal entitlements that Afro-Black queers and feminist and poor Black people vote for reliably and take advantage of profusely.

    There is a much larger number of Afro-Black heterosexual queers (sodomites) than homosexual Black queers.

    That fact explains why STDs are epidemic in Afro-Black communities and explains why Afro-Black fertility rates are significantly impacted by epidemic STD infections.

    STD’s kill and gravely injure fetuses.

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  100. @DanielDaniel
    Is there a country out there where the income gap between blacks and whites does not exist?

    Uhh, USgovernmentstan?

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  101. The missing answer is that affirmative action and all them programs actually are working. The problem is that they are counteracted by several factors:

    1. The decline in working class wages and working class jobs is hitting blacks particularly hard. If you line up the bell curves for working-class hireability, and move the line for hireability to the right (due to loss of jobs), it should disproportionately affect working-class blacks.
    2. The welfare state and associated programs have been lowering black fitness disproportionately to whites. Whites have been plummeting in all sorts of measures of social fitness since the 60s, but for blacks, of course, it has been worse.
    3. Immigration. Mexicans are taking blacks’ jobs. Duh.

    Affirmative action is giving the more capable blacks access to a middle class life. The problem is that the cadre of middle class blacks is a stagnant percentage of the black population. Affirmative action doesn’t work on the working class.

    When you have two opposing forces that affect a single measure, it’s tough to tell which force is doing what. The lesson is that the declining economy is bad for the working class. The other lesson is that the welfare state is degrading our human capital. The other other lesson is that we don’t need more competition for jobs in the working class.

    Another problem is that one of the main costs for the lower middle class is the cost of avoiding the underclass. It costs a lot to stay away from them. (Indeed, it costs blacks even more, since such a high proportion of the black population is in the underclass and that lower-class whites don’t want to be around any blacks.)

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    The best all-black neighborhood in Los Angeles has an extremely high minimum quality of front yard upkeep. I presume there are a lot of neighborhood social pressures to water your lawn regularly, for example.
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  102. @a Newsreader
    The missing answer is that affirmative action and all them programs actually are working. The problem is that they are counteracted by several factors:

    1. The decline in working class wages and working class jobs is hitting blacks particularly hard. If you line up the bell curves for working-class hireability, and move the line for hireability to the right (due to loss of jobs), it should disproportionately affect working-class blacks.
    2. The welfare state and associated programs have been lowering black fitness disproportionately to whites. Whites have been plummeting in all sorts of measures of social fitness since the 60s, but for blacks, of course, it has been worse.
    3. Immigration. Mexicans are taking blacks' jobs. Duh.

    Affirmative action is giving the more capable blacks access to a middle class life. The problem is that the cadre of middle class blacks is a stagnant percentage of the black population. Affirmative action doesn't work on the working class.

    When you have two opposing forces that affect a single measure, it's tough to tell which force is doing what. The lesson is that the declining economy is bad for the working class. The other lesson is that the welfare state is degrading our human capital. The other other lesson is that we don't need more competition for jobs in the working class.

    Another problem is that one of the main costs for the lower middle class is the cost of avoiding the underclass. It costs a lot to stay away from them. (Indeed, it costs blacks even more, since such a high proportion of the black population is in the underclass and that lower-class whites don't want to be around any blacks.)

    The best all-black neighborhood in Los Angeles has an extremely high minimum quality of front yard upkeep. I presume there are a lot of neighborhood social pressures to water your lawn regularly, for example.

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    And the trouble is if the fortunes of the lower classes improve, the gains going to the underclass are counteracted by the costs of the lower-middle-class to avoid the underclass. Is there a way to avoid a positional good price war? The only options I can think of are neighborhood codes (like lawn watering requirements, noise regulations, etc.), segregation, or a general reform of underclass manners. That all-black neighborhood in LA must have some strong Asabiyya.
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  103. @Steve Sailer
    The best all-black neighborhood in Los Angeles has an extremely high minimum quality of front yard upkeep. I presume there are a lot of neighborhood social pressures to water your lawn regularly, for example.

    And the trouble is if the fortunes of the lower classes improve, the gains going to the underclass are counteracted by the costs of the lower-middle-class to avoid the underclass. Is there a way to avoid a positional good price war? The only options I can think of are neighborhood codes (like lawn watering requirements, noise regulations, etc.), segregation, or a general reform of underclass manners. That all-black neighborhood in LA must have some strong Asabiyya.

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  104. He should have called this WhyTrumpWon
    .txt.

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  105. The media esp. the Jew York Times and Clinton News Network always ignore the fact that 55% of college educated white men and 49% of college educated white women voted for Trump. They prefer to stick to their narrative that it’s the “uneducated white males” who won the race for Trump.

    Except for the top 1%, all of America are hurting because of over immigration. DHS reported that in 2016 alone Obama gave work permits to 2.3 million foreign workers. Since 1980 the US population has grown by over 50%, from 200m to 320m. Job creation simply can’t keep pace. Blue collar workers are losing jobs to automation and illegals from Latin America, Asia, Africa. White collar workers are losing jobs to automation, outsourcing and unlimited insourcing of Asian and Eastern European workers on H1b, L1, B1, OPT visas. If Obama had cut down immigration to zero and sent packing all the foreign workers on work visas instead of granting over 16 million such work permits in his 8 years, Hillary Clinton would be president by now.

    But no matter, let these libtards in the fake news media continue to bury their heads in the sand and blame it all on racism. We will give them another trouncing in 2020.

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  106. Ironsides says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    Indeed, five decades of household income data reveal a yawning and uncannily consistent income gap between black and white Americans across the economic spectrum.
     
    This is such a fascinating quote---it makes me wonder if almost literally any evidence could disprove the hypothesis that the black-white income gap is due to "structural racism" in the eyes of professor Campos. The fact that the gap has been persistent despite massive decreases in discrimination against blacks should only be "uncanny" if the only possible explanation was discrimination against blacks. If the gap is the result of another factor, like genetic differences, it's unsurprising.

    No. Their ideas of absolute equality, and thus White Evil and Black Longsuffering Sainthood are not falsifiable. They are an example of lunatic fanaticism which is immune to any collection of facts, observations, and experiences.

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  107. Thomm says:
    @Ed
    The Somali number is atrocious there really is no need for them to be allowed to immigrate here.

    I agree. They (Somalis) are also violent and partake in Islamic terrorism.

    But should household income be the primary determinant of immigration? By that metric, Indians and Filipinos are the two most qualified groups…

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  108. Thomm says:
    @Triumph104
    With the exception of Somalis, black immigrants groups have higher median household incomes than US descendants of slaves.

    Black American $36,544 (includes both descendants of US slaves and immigrants)

    Nigerian American : $62,086
    Ghanaian American : $59,545
    British West Indian American : $56,865
    Barbadian American : $56,078
    West Indian American : $53,310
    Trinidadian and Tobagonian American : $55,303
    Jamaican American : $50,935
    Haitian American : $47,751
    Subsaharan African : $43,682
    Bahamian American : $42,000
    Ethiopian American : $41,736
    Somali American : $22,368

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    By the second generation, don’t they vanish into the general black population (and become ghetto losers)?

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    That used to happen in the past because most black immigrants were from the English-speaking Caribbean, had names similar to US blacks, and were small in numbers. They had little choice but to blend in.

    The number of black immigrants/descendants is now much larger and many have unique names, their own languages, and often identifiable physical characteristics, so it is easy for them to maintain their own cultural identity separate from US blacks. From what I have observed, they tend to marry other black immigrants/descendants or even interacially before marrying a US black.

    The documentary Neo African-Americans (2009) discusses whether black immigrants/descendants see themselves as African-Americans. African immigrants go to great lengths to make sure that their children maintain their African cultural identity- both national and tribal (50:06).

    https://youtu.be/yQWOKMegK8o?t=3004

    , @Ed
    Depends on the group, where the immigrant kids grew up and income level. Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.
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  109. Calogero says:

    Why didn’t he compare and contrast Black and Hispanic incomes? Maybe blacks aren’t doing as well because of all the low skilled Mexicans taking historically black jobs.

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  110. @Thomm
    By the second generation, don't they vanish into the general black population (and become ghetto losers)?

    That used to happen in the past because most black immigrants were from the English-speaking Caribbean, had names similar to US blacks, and were small in numbers. They had little choice but to blend in.

    The number of black immigrants/descendants is now much larger and many have unique names, their own languages, and often identifiable physical characteristics, so it is easy for them to maintain their own cultural identity separate from US blacks. From what I have observed, they tend to marry other black immigrants/descendants or even interacially before marrying a US black.

    The documentary Neo African-Americans (2009) discusses whether black immigrants/descendants see themselves as African-Americans. African immigrants go to great lengths to make sure that their children maintain their African cultural identity- both national and tribal (50:06).

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  111. Ed says:
    @Thomm
    By the second generation, don't they vanish into the general black population (and become ghetto losers)?

    Depends on the group, where the immigrant kids grew up and income level. Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.

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    Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.
     
    Do you know of any statistics that compare children of immigrants to their parents based on source countries? I suspect that would be interesting because of regression to the mean.

    I was unable to find those statistics, but I ran across this interesting article in my search: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

    There was some good data (both current and historical) and comparisons with the past which treated the first and second generations separately. I think this graph will resonate with this audience:

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/02/SDT-2013-02-07-Immigrant-Gen-1-02.png

    Among other things I think that helps clarify the effects of various immigration acts. Notice the first generation population turning up a few years after 1965, but being masked for a while by a declining second generation population.
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  112. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Buck Turgidson
    it would be pretty awesome to see a huge ring of Section 8 be erected around the entire CU campus, with a similarly huge pipeline set up to import the Somalis, Ghanan, don't forget the Hmong, refugees.

    Boulderites tend to be bit self-virtuous--but they don't want any Somalis coming to town. It would be hilarious to watch the mental gymnastics of Boulderites explaining why they don't want Somalis, but that they definitely aren't racist.

    Why of course it is because those apartments would be going onto lands earmarked to protect the Boulder Spotted Newt and the great Colorado Hornbeaked Owl. It would be an environmental catastrophe to let such a thing occur. Much better to put them into places like Kansas where those hillbillies know nothing anyway about protecting the environment and, being filled with all these Southern white people, could frankly use some more diversity enrichment to save their state by bringing in these great enterprising first generation immigrant African peoples.

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  113. @Autochthon
    No it did not. It was tantamount to some mediocre academic writing about affordable family formation, the first law of female journalism, the differences between lesbians and male homosexuals, and the ramifications of invading and inviting the world, then giving an interview or two to The New York Times about his expertise and development of these ideas.

    The guy is an opportunistic parasite.

    I could not disagree more. He was the first law professor to say plainly, to the public at large (as opposed to fellow academics), in short sentences and words of one syllable, that the law-school industry was actually lying to kids and ripping them off. He was the first person on the inside to say that the “scambloggers” — whom the law-school industry had been dismissing as bitter losers with bad grades — were actually right. He took a lot of heat for that from fellow academics. Granted, he had tenure, but being a professional pariah is still not pleasant.

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    maybe punishment beatings for telling the truth about academia turning into a money-making scam is why he's being a good boy in the NYT

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Yes. Campos did yeoman's work on the law school scam.

    Years ago, he wrote a short book he pulled together from several law review articles of his called 'Jurismania.' There were some good ideas in it about anarcho-tyranny and the managerial State. Oh well.
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  114. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Clark Westwood
    I could not disagree more. He was the first law professor to say plainly, to the public at large (as opposed to fellow academics), in short sentences and words of one syllable, that the law-school industry was actually lying to kids and ripping them off. He was the first person on the inside to say that the "scambloggers" -- whom the law-school industry had been dismissing as bitter losers with bad grades -- were actually right. He took a lot of heat for that from fellow academics. Granted, he had tenure, but being a professional pariah is still not pleasant.

    maybe punishment beatings for telling the truth about academia turning into a money-making scam is why he’s being a good boy in the NYT

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session

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  115. res says:
    @Ed
    Depends on the group, where the immigrant kids grew up and income level. Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.

    Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.

    Do you know of any statistics that compare children of immigrants to their parents based on source countries? I suspect that would be interesting because of regression to the mean.

    I was unable to find those statistics, but I ran across this interesting article in my search: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

    There was some good data (both current and historical) and comparisons with the past which treated the first and second generations separately. I think this graph will resonate with this audience:

    Among other things I think that helps clarify the effects of various immigration acts. Notice the first generation population turning up a few years after 1965, but being masked for a while by a declining second generation population.

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    I have not although here's a paper that explores the issue in more depth.

    http://home.uchicago.edu/~arauh/Rauh2013b.pdf
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  116. Ed says:
    @res

    Generally speaking though black immigrant kids tend to do better than US slave descended blacks but often lag behind their parents and other immigrant kids especially Asian.
     
    Do you know of any statistics that compare children of immigrants to their parents based on source countries? I suspect that would be interesting because of regression to the mean.

    I was unable to find those statistics, but I ran across this interesting article in my search: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

    There was some good data (both current and historical) and comparisons with the past which treated the first and second generations separately. I think this graph will resonate with this audience:

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/02/SDT-2013-02-07-Immigrant-Gen-1-02.png

    Among other things I think that helps clarify the effects of various immigration acts. Notice the first generation population turning up a few years after 1965, but being masked for a while by a declining second generation population.

    I have not although here’s a paper that explores the issue in more depth.

    http://home.uchicago.edu/~arauh/Rauh2013b.pdf

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    Thanks. One interesting (but perhaps unsurprising) thing is that looking at figures 2-5 we see that the wage gap and employment gaps are close to inverses in terms of change over time.
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  117. @Joe Franklin
    Feminist and queer and welfare government entitlements have had a huge effect on marriage rates in all ethnic communities, not just Afro-Black communities.

    Cost-free abortion-on-demand is one of the federal entitlements that Afro-Black queers and feminist and poor Black people vote for reliably and take advantage of profusely.

    There is a much larger number of Afro-Black heterosexual queers (sodomites) than homosexual Black queers.

    That fact explains why STDs are epidemic in Afro-Black communities and explains why Afro-Black fertility rates are significantly impacted by epidemic STD infections.

    STD's kill and gravely injure fetuses.

    Your comment is just gross. I really hope it’s not true.

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    Negroez are the faggiest demographic in America.
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  118. hyperbola says:
    @Jack D

    A genuine populist movement would unite working- and middle-class Americans of all backgrounds, rather than dividing them by exploiting false beliefs about the supposed loss of white economic privilege.
     
    Searched the article for "imm" - 0 hits.

    The biggest pushers of “racism” in America are “our” media (95% owned by a racist-supremacist, foreign sect). “Divide and Conquer” keeps attention from focussing on sects who abuse Americans of all backgrounds.

    Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World’s Media

    http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

    How long has the NY Times been lying to Americans?

    The New York Times’ role in promoting war on Iraq

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/23/1079939624187.html

    This is the first ‘Engineering consent’ column by Antony Loewenstein, to focus on the inside workings of big media.

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  119. res says:
    @Ed
    I have not although here's a paper that explores the issue in more depth.

    http://home.uchicago.edu/~arauh/Rauh2013b.pdf

    Thanks. One interesting (but perhaps unsurprising) thing is that looking at figures 2-5 we see that the wage gap and employment gaps are close to inverses in terms of change over time.

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  120. Ivy says:
    @Marty T
    Something tells me during the school year stuff stays open later in Boulder.

    Many food places on The Hill deliver to all those hungry Buffalos and Buffaloettes studying away in the evening.

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  121. @Clark Westwood
    I could not disagree more. He was the first law professor to say plainly, to the public at large (as opposed to fellow academics), in short sentences and words of one syllable, that the law-school industry was actually lying to kids and ripping them off. He was the first person on the inside to say that the "scambloggers" -- whom the law-school industry had been dismissing as bitter losers with bad grades -- were actually right. He took a lot of heat for that from fellow academics. Granted, he had tenure, but being a professional pariah is still not pleasant.

    Yes. Campos did yeoman’s work on the law school scam.

    Years ago, he wrote a short book he pulled together from several law review articles of his called ‘Jurismania.’ There were some good ideas in it about anarcho-tyranny and the managerial State. Oh well.

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  122. MEH 0910 says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/arts/television/amazon-black-america-confederate.html

    Amazon’s ‘Black America’ Imagines a New Nation in the South

    Joining a recent boon in alt-history dramas, Amazon is developing a series called “Black America” that imagines what would happen if freed African-Americans after the Civil War formed their own nation from three Southern states as reparations for slavery.

    The Amazon show is the project of Will Packer, a producer whose films include “Girls Trip,” and “Straight Outta Compton.” He announced details in an interview with Deadline on Tuesday. Amazon and Will Packer Media confirmed that the series was under development, saying that Mr. Packer will team up with Aaron McGruder, who created “The Boondocks” and “Black Jesus.”

    In the back story of “Black America,” the Confederacy was defeated. But instead of enduring the painful eras of Reconstruction and Jim Crow, African-Americans received reparations. The former slaves and freedmen claimed Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, a nation known as New Colonia.

    That nation has a “tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship” with the United States, which is described as both an ally and a foe.

    The series picks up in the current day, when New Colonia and the United States have enjoyed two decades of peace, but the new nation is growing rapidly while the old one declines.

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    How is the soundtrack?
    , @Alwin

    but the new nation is growing rapidly while the old one declines.
     
    Here we see Negro delusions. Take a look at Detroit and Negro Africa today.
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  123. Alwin says:
    @StillCARealist
    Your comment is just gross. I really hope it's not true.

    Negroez are the faggiest demographic in America.

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  124. Ivy says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/arts/television/amazon-black-america-confederate.html

    Amazon’s ‘Black America’ Imagines a New Nation in the South

    Joining a recent boon in alt-history dramas, Amazon is developing a series called “Black America” that imagines what would happen if freed African-Americans after the Civil War formed their own nation from three Southern states as reparations for slavery.
     

    The Amazon show is the project of Will Packer, a producer whose films include “Girls Trip,” and “Straight Outta Compton.” He announced details in an interview with Deadline on Tuesday. Amazon and Will Packer Media confirmed that the series was under development, saying that Mr. Packer will team up with Aaron McGruder, who created “The Boondocks” and “Black Jesus.”
     

    In the back story of “Black America,” the Confederacy was defeated. But instead of enduring the painful eras of Reconstruction and Jim Crow, African-Americans received reparations. The former slaves and freedmen claimed Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, a nation known as New Colonia.

    That nation has a “tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship” with the United States, which is described as both an ally and a foe.

    The series picks up in the current day, when New Colonia and the United States have enjoyed two decades of peace, but the new nation is growing rapidly while the old one declines.
     

    How is the soundtrack?

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  125. Alwin says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/arts/television/amazon-black-america-confederate.html

    Amazon’s ‘Black America’ Imagines a New Nation in the South

    Joining a recent boon in alt-history dramas, Amazon is developing a series called “Black America” that imagines what would happen if freed African-Americans after the Civil War formed their own nation from three Southern states as reparations for slavery.
     

    The Amazon show is the project of Will Packer, a producer whose films include “Girls Trip,” and “Straight Outta Compton.” He announced details in an interview with Deadline on Tuesday. Amazon and Will Packer Media confirmed that the series was under development, saying that Mr. Packer will team up with Aaron McGruder, who created “The Boondocks” and “Black Jesus.”
     

    In the back story of “Black America,” the Confederacy was defeated. But instead of enduring the painful eras of Reconstruction and Jim Crow, African-Americans received reparations. The former slaves and freedmen claimed Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, a nation known as New Colonia.

    That nation has a “tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship” with the United States, which is described as both an ally and a foe.

    The series picks up in the current day, when New Colonia and the United States have enjoyed two decades of peace, but the new nation is growing rapidly while the old one declines.
     

    but the new nation is growing rapidly while the old one declines.

    Here we see Negro delusions. Take a look at Detroit and Negro Africa today.

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