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From the New York Times:

FACT CHECK

Examining Trump’s Claims About Representative Ilhan Omar

By Linda Qiu
July 18, 2019

… On Wednesday, Mr. Trump drew attention to rumors that Ms. Omar had married her brother.

WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
— in remarks to reporters on Wednesday

Rumors that Ms. Omar had married her brother have been circulating since 2016, when she ran for state representative in Minnesota. No proof has emerged substantiating these claims.

In 2016, Ms. Omar released a statement denying the rumors as “absolutely false and ridiculous” and providing a timeline of her marital history.

According to that timeline, she applied for a marriage license with Ahmed Hirsi in 2002, but never finalized the application. In 2008, they ended their relationship “in our faith tradition.”

State records show that in 2009, Ms. Omar legally married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, who she said was a British citizen. They obtained a religious divorce in 2011, according to her timeline, and Mr. Elmi returned to England.

She then reconciled with Mr. Hirsi and married him legally in January 2018, a month after she legally divorced from Mr. Elmi, according to The Associated Press. She and Mr. Hirsi have three children.

Last month, Minnesota’s campaign finance board found that Ms. Omar filed joint tax returns in 2014 and 2015 with Mr. Hirsi while she was still legally married to Mr. Elmi. She agreed to pay a fine and back taxes as a result of the amendments to her returns those years.

In 2016, a blog called PowerLine cited a now-deleted post on an internet forum that claimed Mr. Elmi is Ms. Omar’s brother.

In 2018, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Ms. Omar showed a reporter cellphone images of documents from her family’s entry into the United States in 1995. They listed her father and siblings by order of birth, with Ms. Omar listed as the youngest of seven children. Mr. Elmi’s name did not appear in the documents. According to the couple’s marriage certificate, he is also three years younger than Ms. Omar, whose mother died when she was 2 years old.

No mention of the term “immigration fraud” in this NYT account. Clearly, it would be funniest if the man Rep. Omar legally married for the purpose of immigration fraud happened to be a very close relative — Somali family values at their finest — but it’s still immigration fraud if she entered into a sham marriage with a non-relative to get him into the country.

So, did Rep. Omar engage in immigration fraud or some other kind of fraud?

Beats me, but it sure doesn’t appear to have been disproved yet after 3 years.

But, that’s not the NYT’s point, the NYT’s point is that, much like story of how Rolling Stone happened to mistate certain factual details in its “A Rape on Campus” article, the story of Ilhan Omar’s various husbands is all very technical and boring. Why would you be interested in that?

In contrast, here are the headlines on a long new Daily Mail story about this hilarious case:

‘I am legally married to one and culturally to another’: How Ilhan Omar desperately tried to shut down accusations of bigamy amid claims she was briefly married to her BROTHER to ‘commit immigration fraud’ while she was still with her current husband
President Donald Trump suggested Rep. Ilhan Omar was ‘married to her brother’
Reignited an explosive rumor that first emerged during Omar’s 2016 campaign
Omar has failed to fully disprove the claims of bigamy and fraternal marriage
By THE SPECTATOR USA’S COCKBURN COLUMNIST
PUBLISHED: 08:11 EDT, 18 July 2019 | UPDATED: 12:41 EDT, 18 July 2019

 
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  1. newrouter says:

    Hole : stop digging NYT

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @niteranger
  2. Hey, how come the Times isn’t using the, she can’t prove she didn’t do it standard, they always apply to Trump?

    • Replies: @Alden
  3. Whiskey says: • Website

    It’s a winner. Ilhan is captain now. Look at her. Trump just caved like a cheap cuck.

    • Replies: @George
    , @Anonymous
  4. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

  5. JMcG says:
    @newrouter

    Exactly wrong. Hand them a shovel and offer to help dig.

  6. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    I can’t make out the supposed fraud here.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
  7. Polynikes says:

    Does it even matter? INS can barely deport actual criminals. There’s zero chance they or anyone else prosecutes this.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
  8. Hail says: • Website

    Percent chance that American-by-fraud Omar ends up with her citizenship revoked for her crimes (and/or for Un-American activities)?

    We can wish.

    Note that Australia recently expelled multiple members of its legislature for citizenship violations. All those suspected of illegally holding dual citizenship with a foreign country were expelled, even when the other citizenship was never “activated.”

    (The usual exception was, of course, made for The Chosen: Jewish dual citizens were allowed to stay in the Australian parliament, while multiple Christian and other dual citizens were expelled. By this point, those people are effectively first-class citizens in our nations; the rest of us, those who built and maintain the nation, are second-class at best.)

  9. Founding fathers would be so proud that “The Squad” is achieving all those goals that they had intended to.
    Can you list me any of the benefits that importing Somalis has brought to the West? Somebody , please ask this question from a Leftist or a Liberal Democrat.
    Republican and Whites shot them in the foot many times back in the late 80s and early 90s. Reagan amnesty, expanding of immigration by Bush senior, blocking immigration reduction legislations introduced by Clinton administration and finally the worst of them all “Diversity Lottery”. Bush family has done more damage to the Republican party and European Americans than any of the non white will ever do.
    Future’s gonna be terrible.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  10. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

    Summary of lots of info.

    I hope Trump gets the NYT and dems to defend her heavily and own it so that he can Speak Truth To Power when she becomes too impossible to defend any longer.

    • Replies: @Lot
  11. Lot says:

    Ilhan’s Husband #2/brother looks like a flaming homosexual in every single photo of him in the dailymail article, and is borderline crossdressing in a few of them. He also appears to be wearing eye makeup to various degrees in most of his photos.

  12. The West doesn’t have to import people like this, as we produce enough of our own:

    https://metro.co.uk/2016/10/06/student-got-vibrator-stuck-up-her-backside-during-sex-with-boyfriend-6174685/

    Note that Metro doesn’t inform us what this “student” is studying. The Mail would.

    Most disturbingly, the patient tells us, “The doctors were really good – they all moved quite quickly and were so reassuring telling me they saw it quite often which was quite a relief.”

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  13. Johnny789 says:

    That’s a lot of machinations to go thru just to attend North Dakota St. U. Maybe he just wanted to see them take it to the racist, arrogant, and smug Fighting Sioux of the Univ of North Dakota in ice hockey.

  14. For those of us wary of our inheritance’s dilution, encouragement: The Coalition of the Fringes will become increasingly stupid.

  15. @Lot

    The tied up shirt is common among prison subs, per documentaries. Flaming, indeed.

  16. @Lot

    He has more of DeBarge’s thing going on, with the facial hair; or Dave Chapelle as Prince Nelson offering pancakes, with the fruity wardrobe:

  17. Alden says:

    I saw something in free republic that she’s not even a member of the Omar family. She entered the US using the false name of Omar. Who knows?

    • Replies: @Henry_Bowman U.C.
  18. newrouter says:

    So Trump distancing himself from ” Send her back” a good ploy?

  19. Alden says:
    @Angular momentum

    You used the pronoun she! twice!! That’s an aggravated felony Thought Crime punishable by confiscation if all assets and a public stoning.

    I expect spell check to replace every he she him her with them any day now.

    • Replies: @Simon Tugmutton
  20. @newrouter

    I guess they have no one at the NY Times that read this investigative reporting because they don’t care about the truth. I urge everyone to read this:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

  21. Lot says:
    @Lot

    Some pics not from Daily Mail.

    His current twitter profile pic:

    This one was his profile picture used in a London art and food webzine that he wrote about 60 PR type blog posts for. His job seems to be copywriting for corporate PR campaigns like this.

    This from a site called edailybuzz.

    archived version of last pic:

    http://archive.is/gPwxF

    Pic of the two husbands when they were all living together at the link below. She lived in two seperate addresses with the two husbands together. He looks a bit straighter there, but only in comparison to the ultra-camp london photos. There’s still the gay face and effeminate scarf draped around him.

    https://www.deplorablehousewives.news/even-more-proof-ilhan-omar-lived-both-husbands-same-time/

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @anonymous
  22. Lot says:
    @Lot

    The Daily Mail has another article about the brother/husband with a different but overlapping group of pics. You might as well be wearing a “yes I’m gay” shirt with a lot of these, however DailyMail reports that one of the pictures was taken at a gay nightclub.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7261577/Ilhan-Omars-ex-husband-alleged-brother-glamorous-British-fashionista.html

    The Daily Mail is the only MSM site that is reporting that Omar was married to a very obviously gay man.

    In fact, other than the Daily Mail, only Laura Loomer is reporting this. She was banned from twitter for “attacking” Omar.

    https://lauraloomer.us/2019/07/18/exclusive-reminder-ilhan-omars-brother-is-gay-she-married-him-anyway/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. Alden says:
    @Hail

    I skim the local Jewish Journal every week. There’s a big ADL chapter in Australia. ADL established its presence in Australia to fight Islamophobia homophobia anti semitism and discrimination against marginalized communities. It has legal aid for all these oppressed people

    ADL logo is a scarf encircling the globe. Seems appropriate.

  24. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    Just massive evidence she was married to her biological brother in that new post. And also, that she committed perjury in 2017, within the statute of limitations. But time is running out.

    If the House won’t investigate, the Senate should do so. If you have a Republican senator, please e-mail him a link to the powerlineblog and ask they condemn this perjury and marriage fraud and the Senate investigate it.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  25. @Lot

    Maybe it’s not her brother, maybe it’s her. She is the brother!

    I’m Edward Kimberly!

    • LOL: Sean
  26. George says:
    @Whiskey

    The fixation on Omar is insane. White people should be upset at the white members of the Minn Congressional delegation are doing. The ‘send her back’ chants are embarrassing.

  27. @Argentine American

    ‘…Can you list me any of the benefits that importing Somalis has brought to the West? ‘

    We did get a congresswoman with the courage to say why Congress supports Israel.

    • Troll: MikeatMikedotMike
  28. As I understand it, she has always clearly been married to and living with one dude (Hirsi).

    But, in 2009 she got a marriage certificate for another dude (Elmi), probably so he could get a green card. “Elmi” is obviously her brother as verified by a bunch of his social media posts where Elmi is hanging out with Omar and her real husband and referring to her kids as his nieces and nephews.

    So it’s pretty much 100% true she was a bigamist, and married her brother. The NYT sees “no evidence” however.

    Why do people continue to read a rag that is both fake and boring?

  29. Sean says:
    @Lot

    That is why she is relatively pretty. Petite good looking women don’t have James Garner for a brother.

  30. Mr. Anon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He ain’t Hirsi, he’s my Brother.

  31. Mr. Anon says:

    America’s Newspaper of Record………………The London Daily Mail.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  32. Lot says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Powerline gets a big share of the credit for breaking this (hopefully), but the Washington Examiner went through Omar and Husband #1’s extremely extensive history of traffic tickets and further showed that Omar never once lived apart from Husband #1. “24 traffic violations and misdemeanor charges” in just a 6 or 7 year period! And this is the creme of Mogadishu-on-the-Prarie society, from an elite family to first member of Congress.

    From June 23:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dozens-of-documents-indicate-ilhan-omar-lived-with-ahmed-hirsi-while-claiming-to-be-married-to-ahmed-elmi

    “A paper trail of legal documents, however, undermines Omar’s claim that her marriage to Elmi, a British citizen, came during a split from Hirsi. All available evidence suggests that her legal marriage to Elmi notwithstanding, Omar has always been in marital relationship with Hirsi.

    Public documents, for instance, place Hirsi and Omar living in a home together in the Cedar Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis in 2009, the year Elmi and Omar married, and two years before Omar claims she reconciled with Hirsi.

    In legal documents, including 24 traffic violations and misdemeanor charges against Hirsi obtained by the Washington Examiner, Hirsi listed his address at a single Cedar Riverside address consistently in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. Four minor cases against Omar show that in 2007, 2009, and 2012, she listed her address at the same Cedar Riverside address.

    Specifically, local courts listed this address for both Omar and Hirsi in separate traffic violations in mid-2009, the year Omar and Elmi married. “

    • Agree: Diversity is Great!
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Tex
  33. Omar has warm, family friendly Somali values, unlike our cold, law abiding values, fellow Americans.

  34. eah says:

    The DM isn’t controlled by Jews, and while it is just as politically correct as most media outlets, it does not really seem anti-white — the NYT seems anti-white.

    No mention of the term “immigration fraud” in this NYT account.

    I spent some time looking into this before, eg by reading everything I could find that had been published about it (online) — a few points: to some extent it was difficult/impossible to know for sure what happened and why due to lack of cooperation from Omar herself; but her marital history seemed related to immigration fraud and/or student loan fraud; the mainstream media largely accepted Omar’s non-explanations, which usually included charges the questions and whole line of inquiry into her personal life were racist; now that the issue of her marriage history seems to be getting more attention (?), it would be a shame if the people who have been looking into and writing about it for years did not get the credit they deserve.

    Hilarious

    The joke’s on America, just as it was when the State Dept suspended family-reunification due to all the Somali liars, only to resume it after requiring genetic testing of all applicants, paid for by US taxpayers of course.

    • Replies: @Lot
  35. @Lot

    All of this would be great information (not to mention fun) if it weren’t for the one inconvenient fact that our nation’s immigration laws are only enforced against white people.

    If we started enforcing against POCs, we’d hardly have immigration at all! Then where would we be, hmm?

  36. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Her brother being gay is interesting in light of Omar’s recent enthusiastic promotion of Pride during Pride month and marching in the Pride parade. People were accusing her of hypocrisy because she’s Muslim. Siad Barre’s regime was one of those secular socialist, leftist nationalist types, more nominally Islamic than religious, kind of like Gaddafi.

  37. Bill P says:

    Is it gay marriage if a woman marries her gay brother?

    This has to be the most intersectional marriage ever:

    Gay, immigrant, polyandrous, Muslim, black, incestuous, undocumented… Am I leaving anything out?

    • Agree: Lot
  38. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey

    Do you really imagine this was ever targeted at Somali Sarah Palin? One out of 435, basically irrelevant apart from PR ops. She’s not even the leader of her clique.

    Contrary to the knee-jerk concern-troll reactions re: “unifying the Democrats” he was shrewd not to name her, in the initial remarks about certain wahmen’s rebuilding their homelands. DJT has enough practice manipulating the media to know it didn’t need to be grossly personalized. The idea is to distract the distractable.

    Some “blunder”–though resuscitating it into next week might be; the white libs are VERY eager to protest their love and rain $ on her nominal party.

  39. eah says:
    @Lot

    Powerline gets a big share of the credit for breaking this (hopefully)…

    Yes, thanks for mentioning Powerline (Scott Johnson) — there were a few others as well (eg Preya Samsundar).

    As an example of Omar’s non-cooperation, here’s a letter sent to Johnson from a lawyer (with the Jewish-sounding surname of Brandl — ?):

    Dear Mr. Johnson:

    I have been contacted by the Ilhan Omar campaign. Their response to your email from this morning is as follows:

    “There are people who do not want an East African, Muslim woman elected to office and who will follow Donald Trump’s playbook to prevent it. Ilhan Omar’s campaign sees your superfluous contentions as one more in a series of attempts to discredit her candidacy.

    Ilhan Omar’s campaign will not be distracted by negative forces and will continue to focus its energy on creating positive engagement with community members to make the district and state more prosperous and equitable for everyone.”

    If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please direct them to me in writing so we have a record of any further communications.

    Sincerely,

    Jean Brandl

  40. All of these Muslima activists have man problems. Rashida Tlaib is divorced, two children, described as ‘single mother,’ not cool with the faithful. Omar’s situation is such an obvious fraud, and Linda Sarsour won’t even talk about her husband. He’s either a CIA collaborator or he’s in Guantanamo.

    America isn’t ready for an honest-to-goodness male Muslim fanatic like these gals. Shway-shway you know.

  41. @eah

    Yes, it’s great to see Scott Johnson finally getting results for his work.

    I’ve made several comments here over the past three years noting how the Johnson/Steinberg case against Omar was essentially airtight, and was just sitting out there in plain view, but no major media would touch it.

    This case is a testimony to the power that race/favored oppression status holds in contemporary culture.

    Omar’s crimes are outrageous, and extremely interesting, even to a casual observer, but she skated along for three solid years while rising to international prominence.

    Now let’s see if she is brought to some semblance of justice — or even if she is indicted.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  42. @Alden

    You used the forbidden pronoun TWICE as well!

    • Replies: @Alden
  43. Jack D says:

    In 2018, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Ms. Omar showed a reporter cellphone images of documents from her family’s entry into the United States in 1995. They listed her father and siblings by order of birth, with Ms. Omar listed as the youngest of seven children. Mr. Elmi’s name did not appear in the documents.

    This assume that the list is true. It ain’t. Omar’s real name is not even Omar, it’s Elmi – she (or actually her father since she was 12 at the time) fraudulently attach herself to a different family in order to get in to the US – this is the kind of stuff that Somalis do without any compunction. One of those 7 is her real (Elmi) sister and the other 5 are actual Omars. Meanwhile there were 3 more Elmi siblings (including her brother) who ended up in the UK under their real (Elmi) names.

    If Elmi’s name appeared on that list he would have already been in the US and wouldn’t have needed to marry his sister to get in. Duh.

    . According to the couple’s marriage certificate, he is also three years younger than Ms. Omar, whose mother died when she was 2 years old.

    Therefore Elmi could not be Omar’s brother – her mother was dead before he was born! QED. This is absolute proof – take that Donald Trump!

    Except, except… Somalis lie about every damn thing – the important thing is getting what you want at that particular moment (refugee status, your brother into the country, a tax deduction, anything). Tomorrow you may tell a completely different story. So the probative value of Elmi’s (and for that matter Omar’s) self declaration of age on his marriage certificate to his sister is NIL. I don’t even know whether the line about Omar’s mother dying when she was 2 is true either. Maybe that was part of the false story that they concocted to get refugee status. In the case of Somalis, pics or it didn’t happen.

    As others have said, the NYTimes is just digging itself a deep hole here. There is too much proof (laid out by Powerline) that Elmi is Omar’s brother. They are going to look like idiots when Omar’s story breaks down, like when they backed Erdely’s ridiculous Jackie story. Some MSM organ with a shred of integrity remaining (maybe the WashPo) is going to break it eventually – it’s too good to leave unpicked. The NYT have drunk too much of their own Kool-Aid and they don’t even realize (until it is too late) that they are digging themselves a hole – they really believe their own BS and are going to be shocked and surprised when it turns out to be completely wrong. Are they really that dumb? Unfortunately, yes. Being committed to an extremist ideology can make you stupid.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @res
  44. Her best hope now is to “come out” and say that both men were her beard in a fiercely patriarchical society from which she could only be a refugee. You know, it’s not like Kenya is some place where she might be safe as a lesbian, which is about the only way she could come to the US as a refugee from Kenya.

  45. Jack D says:
    @eah

    Not that it makes any difference, but I doubt that Brandl is Jewish. She seems to be involved in getting Islamic terrorists out of jail:

    http://www.morelawmpls.com/brandl-handles-groundbreaking-terrorism-case/

    You’ll note that her reply is totally non-responsive to Powerline’s inquiries – she just changes the subject to Trump.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Kyle
  46. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    She doesn’t know what the word “superfluous” means after being a lawyer for 31 years?

    Here’s one lady named Brandl that is unlikely to be Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese_Brandl

  47. Lot says:
    @eah

    The only thing weighing against the immigration fraud aspect of the sham marriage is why a gay who grew up in England and appears to have the right to live there would be so eager to move to the USA, and North Dakota in particular. College in the UK is cheaper than in-state tuition in the USA, so that isn’t it. Probably not welfare fraud, as he appears to be gainfully employed and can write fairly well as seen in his blog.

    It could just be that he decided to move to the USA, and while that isn’t too hard for a UK citizen, it still is more work than a fraudulent marriage.

    Something that is revealing about the whole episode is that Somalis don’t feel any need to formalize their marriages with state authorities. They have “faith tradition” marriages while staying legally single, and then when the desire to import a relative comes up, they legally marry them for immigration fraud purposes.

    While common law marriages are not unheard of in other groups, I can’t think of any that formalize the marriage with a religious ceremony without telling the government.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  48. Anon[108] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s actually a big deal that the Times covered this, no matter how much they belittle it. It’s within the Overton window now.

    Two hilarious points:

    — Minneapolis newspaper was shown cellphone images of immigration papers. Did the Times ask to see the originals? The cell phone images? Why cell phone images?

    — Faith tradition? Sharia? There’s no sorta married status in the US. There’s a bright line division between married or no, and Faith tradition is not an input into it (yet…). Marital status affects estate transfer, medical stuff, taxation, etc., etc., So the law is very strict about what is marriage and what isn’t.

  49. @Hypnotoad666

    Why do people continue to read a rag that is both fake and boring?

    To knock out 10 blog posts in one evening?

    • Agree: Desiderius
  50. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Why don’t we just put our money down now? She won’t even be ejected from Congress, and she will get in ZERO trouble with the law. I am so confident about this from seeing the way things work over the last decade or two, that I’d put $1,000 on this with any friend who was naive enough to take that bet.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  51. @Reg Cæsar

    What a charming young Englishwoman.

    You will of course pardon me while I locate the nearest barf bag.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  52. @Anonymous

    Sham marriage to get Elmi (who might be an Omar relative) a green card.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  53. ic1000 says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypnotoad, your comment is one-third the length of Sailer’s excerpt of Ms Qiu’s turgid prose. Naive readers can read your writing and immediately grasp the central issue. (Maybe they support sham incestuous bigamy, maybe not — I, personally, celebrate it, of course.)

    I suppose the NYT article represents the pinnacle of The Current Year incarnation of “Get Me Rewrite.”

  54. dearieme says:

    I’d still like to know what Obama was hiding about his origins. I don’t for a moment suppose he was born in Kenya but there’s something shady. Why else would he delay for so long producing his birth certificate, if birth certificate it was?

  55. GSR says:

    Import the Turd World, become like the Turd World.

  56. @Colin Wright

    Yes, the one who married her brother and is one of the most anti-white dingbats currently occupying the house. She used her 4 tier diversity shield to protect her from consequence after making a pretty mild reference to jewish influence.

    She is not brave, and your jew myopia blinds you to all other enemies of American whites.

    She will never actually propose a single action against jewish influence and instead will work to relegate you further into financial servitude.

  57. @Lot

    Looks like Dave Chappelle playing Prince.

  58. anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Come on, Vogue! Strike the pose!

  59. @Percy Gryce

    See now? Yet another benefit of open borders is that downtrodden refugees from the far side of the globe won’t be forced into these sham marriages anymore, just to gain what lazy merkins take for granted. And didn’t even work for. And Nazi Nazi Nazi. What is it with these Nazis everywhere nowadays.

  60. Tex says:
    @Colin Wright

    We did get a congresswoman with the courage to say why Congress supports Israel.

    We have to get our broken clocks from Sudan and Somalia these days.

  61. @Achmed E. Newman

    All depends on how useful she ends up being to Trump. The details of her putative refugee status noted by Steve may be her ultimate undoing.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  62. Tex says:
    @Lot

    In legal documents, including 24 traffic violations and misdemeanor charges against Hirsi obtained by the Washington Examiner, Hirsi listed his address at a single Cedar Riverside address consistently in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. Four minor cases against Omar show that in 2007, 2009, and 2012, she listed her address at the same Cedar Riverside address.

    24 traffic violations & misdemeanors? He’s a dedicated scofflaw.

  63. Blodg says:
    @eah

    In case this is not well known, Scott Johnson is Jewish and a former high powered attorney in Mpls with an Ivy League background

    The media makes him out to be some redneck for obvious reasons

    Scott wants her hide because she went after the pro-Israeli pols, not for any other reason

    On the Powerline site there are equal flags of the US and Israel

    Tells you all you need to know

    • Replies: @eah
  64. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    This used to be fairly common among the Jews of E. Europe – they would be married halachically (under Jewish law – notice BTW that Omar says “faith tradition” and not sharia) but not civilly. This was true of my own (maternal) grandparents. Some of my aunts and uncles carried my grandmother’s maiden name on their Polish papers because the government considered them to be illegitimate.

    I don’t know the reason – maybe there was a cost associated with civil marriage that they didn’t want to pay. Maybe they considered civil law to be irrelevant to their life and just didn’t bother.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  65. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    The method that Omar used to gain refugee status (attaching herself to a different family – Omar is not even her real name) was 100% fake. But Omar was 12 year old – it’s her father that bears the blame. Not that anything will happen to him either.

  66. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.

    – Upton Sinclair

    If it was say Roy Moore who had married his sister in a sham marriage, the NY Times would have no problem understanding it in a NY minute. They would dig deep and not accept glimpses of cell phone screens and self-declarations as conclusive proof. In fact they would laugh in his face if Roy Moore showed them this kind of worthless “proof”. They would be all over this story like white on rice. But any attempt to question vibrant immigrants and their “faith traditions” is inherently racist and doubly so when the vibrant in question is politically aligned with you. And if Trump is against it, you are fer it, whatever “it” is. Who, whom?

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  67. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    The enemy of your enemy is NOT necessarily your friend. Just because Omar hates Jews doesn’t meant that she doesn’t hate you just as much. Even if she is a true blue anti-Semite after your own heart (and she is) that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to support her. I hope you don’t have to find this out the hard way.

  68. mmack says:
    @Lot

    He looks like a Somali Captain Jack Sparrow

  69. The New York Times– written by vermin, read by morons.

  70. Jack D says:
    @Percy Gryce

    This is stated way too mildly. There is no “might” about it and he’s not a “relative”, he’s her brother.

    Sham marriage to get her brother Elmi a green card.

  71. @Jack D

    And if Trump is against it, you are fer it, whatever “it” is. Who, whom?

    That’s Trump’s superpower. He can make the NYT support incestuous bigamy, or whatever. If he criticized the Ebola virus the NYT would have to embrace it as “who we are.”

    • Agree: Corn
  72. @Hail

    A non-Israeli, whose birth mother was Jewish, at the time of such birth, must have the basic qualification for an Israeli passport; how do Israeli bureaucrats determine who is a Jew?

    Folks will often confuse membership in the Jewish tribe with formal, Israeli (dual) citizenship.

    Folks also cite dubious, i’net sources as “proof” that someone is a dual citizen.

    While in Congress, Bachmann was actually on the path to (dual) Swiss citizenship. Somewhat embarrassed by the story, she stopped the process.

    Now that she’s out of Congress, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that she had re-activated her application.

    Everyone wants to be Swiss.

  73. Muggles says:

    One might hope the Daily Mail or some other enterprising journal and reporter would surreptitiously obtain DNA samples from Omar and her alleged first “husband.” Also from other members of her purported refugee “family” to which she was legally attached as an immigrant.

    DNA would be conclusive proof or disproof of this lurid hypothesis.

    So start collecting those samples now.

    Immigration fraud is on thing that can be used to negate any subsequent citizenship. Look at all of those aged Nazi guards who, after living here for decades, were summarily deported and stripped of residency due to claims of mostly minor errors or omissions on their post WWII immigration papers. If those guys can be kicked out, Omar would surely qualify (if facts prove she entered fraudulently.) And if not a legal citizen, she would be ineligible to serve in the US Congress.

  74. @Jack D

    Marriage needs to be a civil affair, even for the most religious among us. I made promises to God and my spouse in front of my friends and family, but I still want the civil authority backing up that covenant.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  75. eah says:
    @Blodg

    On the Powerline site there are equal flags of the US and Israel

    Powerline blog home page — I never noticed the flags (they are down on the right sidebar) — latest from Scott Johnson: DAILY MAIL VERSUS DAILY BEAST — sidebar with flags still there.

    I’ll take the bio info re Johnson in your comment as true (although to me Johnson is not a typical Jewish name — ?) — I’ve never looked into Johnson or the reason for his interest in Omar or when it started; I assume around the time she announced her run for Congress (?) — did she make statements about Israel during her campaign?

    Anyway, I was only interested in her marital history because of the rumors she married her brother and the fact I was already familiar with the Somali family reunification scandal and suspension.

  76. Trump pointed out that HRC was the original, prominent Birther.

    She obviously has a good feel for immigration fraud.

    She obviously has good experience with marriage fraud.

    What does she say about this story?

  77. res says:
    @Jack D

    Thanks for the details. Of course, if anyone actually wanted proof one way or the other, a genetic test would be easy and relatively inexpensive. Why doesn’t Trump challenge her to do that?

  78. @Jack D

    Wait…so you are saying it is known who her father is?

  79. Omar’s Hilarious Marital History

    For what it’s worth, hilarious is the root of the name Hillary.

    Not that his Arian victims saw much hilarity ensuing under St Hilary.

  80. @stillCARealist

    Spain didn’t have civil marriage until the 19th century.

    It’s no accident that those churches which argued for civil rather than sacramental marriage now sport rainbow flags.

    • Replies: @Alden
  81. @Jack D

    Omar is not even her real name

    It is if her paternal grandfather was named Omar. And there are a lot of Omars to go around in Somalia.

  82. @Jack D

    it does not matter whose fault it is. if her refugee status and therefore citizenship was unlawfully obtained, it is not lawful and is subject to revocation.

  83. @The Wild Geese Howard

    What a charming young Englishwoman.

    Note that the ambulance took her on a 45-minute ride over to Wales.

    At least Wrexham was closer than this place:

  84. @Alden

    Free Republic is run from Tel Aviv.

  85. Alden says:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    Mean culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa.

  86. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Calvin even outlawed wedding rings.

  87. Doesn’t matter as Democrats are invincible, invulnerable and allmighty and they can get away with anything, and they will never be punished for the even the most odious actions.

    Whey they, the blue-haired crazies, get back into the WH it’s all over anyway.

    AJM

  88. @Jack D

    I’m just saying being booted from your country for being on the Oppressor team is not exactly Minnesota Nice, if you take my meaning.

    Convenient pretext if Trump benefits too much from her non-normality.

  89. Kyle says:
    @Jack D

    My boss is named Brandle and they’re definitely not Jewish.

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