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The New York Times reports that America’s most pressing problem, Too Many White People, also afflicts far-off Australia:

In a Proudly Diverse Australia, White People Still Run Almost Everything

By DAMIEN CAVE APRIL 10, 2018

SYDNEY, Australia — Australia prides itself on its fairness and multiculturalism. But wander through Sydney’s corporate towers or Canberra’s halls of Parliament, and you’ll notice that Australia’s power structure is overwhelmingly white, nowhere near as diverse as the country at large.

That gap between self-image and reality is the focus of a new report released early Wednesday by the Australian Human Rights Commission, which scrutinized the backgrounds of more than 2,400 senior leaders across business, government and academia.

It found, in simple terms, that white Australians with European roots still run nearly everything.

“Although those who have non-European and Indigenous backgrounds make up an estimated 24 percent of the Australian population, such backgrounds account for only 5 percent of senior leaders,” the report states. “Put another way, about 95 percent of senior leaders in Australia have an Anglo-Celtic or European background.”

And that’s why Australia is such a notorious hellhole that all these nonwhites keep trying to move there.

The report — the government’s most comprehensive study of Australia’s multicultural identity to date — reveals a country opening to the world but still resisting equality. Even with an immigration system that prioritizes the highly skilled, and even as the children of immigrants outperform, on average, the children of Australian-born parents in school, Australia’s racial and ethnic realities remain stuck in place.

The Australian government, in particular, looks much as it did in the 1960s, before the end of the White Australia policy, which restricted nonwhite immigration.

Roughly 94 percent of Parliament is of Anglo-Celtic or European heritage, making the body more white than the United States Congress (where 19 percent of lawmakers identify as racial or ethnic minorities) and the British Parliament (where 8 percent of the House of Commons and around 6 percent of the House of Lords do).

Among Australia’s federal and state government department heads, the homogeneity is even more pronounced: 99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European.

“The statistics are frankly dismal,” said Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner and the lead author of the report.

I’m glad they found somebody totally disinterested like Soutphommasane to write this report.

Otherwise, suspicious minds might think he has a personal interest in promoting the job prospects of people with names like, say, Soutphommasane.

 
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  1. “In a Proudly Diverse Australia, White People Still Run Almost Everything”

    compare and contrast:

    “In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything”

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    "In a proudly diverse Japan, Japanese run everything."
    , @Colleen Pater
    The new your times thats a calvinist run paper isnt it, moldberg is so smart what would we do without the jews looking out for our interests.
    , @Joe Magarac

    “In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything”
     
    "Proudly diverse" has never been Israel's schtick (a little Jewish lingo there). ;)
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  2. Soutphommasane is a name of Lao extraction. And I’m sure a hellhole like Australia has a lot to learn from Laos, one of the poorest countries of earth.

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    Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner
     
    Most likely 100% ethnic Chinese who took on a Laotian/Thai last name to avoid excessive attention.
    , @George
    Thinethavone 'Tim' Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]

    [Invade the world, Vietnam war, French Indo-China, recolonization after WWII]

    His family was resettled by the Family Reunion Program of the Australian Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs to Sydney's south-western suburbs in 1985,[5] where he was raised. He was educated at Hurlstone Agricultural High School.[5]

    [Invade the world leads to invite the world, I wonder if they read Camp of the Saints and decided it was time to leave France.]

    Soutphommasane is the author of three books: The Virtuous Citizen: Patriotism in a Multicultural Society (Cambridge University Press, 2012), Don't Go Back To Where You Came From: Why Multiculturalism Works (New South Books, 2012) which in 2013 won the NSW Premier's Literary Award in the 'Community Relations Commission Award' section,[8] and Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives (Cambridge University Press, 2009).

    He was also co-editor (with Nick Dyrenfurth) of All That's Left: What Labor Should Stand For (New South Books, 2010).

    Soutphommasane's first book Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives was published in 2009. Loosely based on research undertaken toward his doctoral thesis, the book argues that people with progressive politics must re-engage with ideas of patriotism and national identity, which Soutphommasane claims were surrendered to the right during the Prime Ministership of John Howard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Soutphommasane

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  3. Isn’t Soutphommasane the last name of Hank Hill’s annoying neighbor Kahn?

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  4. “Although those who have non-European and Indigenous backgrounds make up an estimated 24 percent of the Australian population, such backgrounds account for only 5 percent of senior leaders,” the report states. “Put another way, about 95 percent of senior leaders in Australia have an Anglo-Celtic or European background.”

    Countries like Australia have gone from almost exclusively white to being watered down in a blink of the eye. It takes years or even generations for most newcomers to become part of a new country. Many are not even citizens, and perhaps a significant number aren’t even legal. Yet idiots think that once they arrive they should immediately make up the same percentage of every bureaucracy, institution, etc., as they do in the general population.

    Usually when you join a group or arrive at a new school, you are not immediately singled out for being a member of the board or being on the student council. There is always a lag in when newcomers arrive and when they eventually join the mainstream. But it seems nobody knows that any more.

    In a similar vein I’ve argued with people over the fact that more nonwhites have now immigrated to the USA than Europeans. They tell me I am wrong because Europeans are still the majority. I then have to explain to them that the bulk of the nonwhites arrived post 1965, while a sizable number of whites have been here for hundreds of years having kids, grandkids, etc., so it makes perfect sense that they have built up higher numbers.

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    In a similar vein I’ve argued with people over the fact that more nonwhites have now immigrated to the USA than Europeans.
     
    That is a good sound bite. Do you have a good reference breaking that down?
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  5. Wait. So they found a Laotian (based on his name) to complain that Australia is too white?

    Surely, Laos is too Laotian and he should look into that!

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  6. He sounds like Khan’s cousin from King of the Hill. You would think the Aussies would be more concerned about becoming a defacto colony of China, but multiculturalism trumps everything for the left.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    The Chinese appreciate their baizuo useful idiots.
    , @Anonymous
    My Vietnamese barber is always telling me to be aware that the Chinese in Canada are colonists.

    He says everyone in Asia found this out the hard way over the years, but we don't quite get it yet.

    Of course to most Canadians there isn't much difference between Vietnamese and Chinese ...I guess it's just the sheer overwhelming number of Chinese.
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  7. 24% minority is a bit higher than I would have expected for Australia.

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    • Replies: @Mishra
    The NYT pretends it's hang-wringing but it's really taking celebratory victory laps and trying to keep the fire burning as hot as possible. I bet there are some white people--somewhere--whose existence they haven't yet lamented but I don't know where.
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  8. NYT: Too Many White People (Australian Version)

    OMFG!! THIS KEEPS HAPPENING!!!

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  9. The Australian government, in particular, looks much as it did in the 1960s, before the end of the White Australia policy, which restricted nonwhite immigration.

    Curious timing, that. I wonder who might have been lobbying for this change?

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    • Replies: @Moses
    Restricting immigration to the majority ethnic group is common around the world. Japan restricts to ethnic Japanese, China restricts to ethnic Han, Israel restricts to ethnic Jews...shall I go on?

    But one one calls any of those countries "racist." Only White countries that wish to remain White are "racist."

    Weird.

    , @Anonymous
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

    Hubert Opperman really began the poz in 1966. But there was a gradual weakening of the WAP.

    http://www.atwistedspoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/860430-hubert-opperman.jpg
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  10. anonymous[837] • Disclaimer says:

    I can’t figure out why you delay/censor the funniest/most-insightful comments.

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    He doesn’t. Mine always go right through.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FCfPBMU0E
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  11. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    NYT just breathless:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/nyregion/supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-naturalization-ceremony.html

    Bedecked in a multicolored collar that reflected the diversity of the 201 new citizens before her, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over a naturalization ceremony on Tuesday at the New-York Historical Society, treating her rapt audience to a history lesson, one crackling with life and liberty.

    Justice Ginsburg told them that her own father arrived in this country at 13 with no fortune and no ability to speak English, and yet, she would soon be administering the oath of citizenship to them as a member of the highest court in the land.

    Across the packed rows of seats at the historical society’s Upper West Side theater sat people from 59 countries, with first names like Islam, Hussein, Kazi, Angie and Sunday, and with professions as diverse as pastors and pediatric cancer doctors. Two men from Guinea sat in the third row and learned they were both named Mamadou Alpha Diallo, both taxi drivers.

    “We are a nation made strong by people like you,” Justice Ginsburg said.

    … After officiating at the ceremony, she went upstairs in the museum for a private talk with young fellows from the Immigrant Justice Corps, a program for immigration lawyers and practitioners founded in New York by Robert A. Katzmann, the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

    … The Citizenship Project offers free classes to green card holders who are studying for the naturalization test, involving art, documents and artifacts at the museum. Since it began in July 2017, more than 600 people have completed the classes, said its president, Louise Mirrer, and the museum hopes to reach 1,000 by July.

    Ms. Mirrer was struck by the compact, powerful civics lesson Justice Ginsburg delivered. “She was careful to present this nation as one that is heavily into self-improvement,” Ms. Mirrer said.

    Louise Mirrer, author of Women, Jews and Muslims in the Texts of Reconquest Castile.

    Justice Ginsburg acknowledged that the United States was at its outset an imperfect union, and is still beset by poverty, low voting numbers and by the “struggle to achieve greater understanding of each other across racial, religious and socio-economic lines.”

    She urged its newest citizens to vote and to foster unity. “We have made huge progress, but the work of perfection is scarcely done,” she said.

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    interesting that Ginsburg's ilk think that national self-improvement includes to basically outlaw the Bill Of Rights.
    That pesky free speech, free press, etc.
    , @Laugh Track

    Two men from Guinea sat in the third row and learned they were both named Mamadou Alpha Diallo, both taxi drivers.
     
    Did they both have the same social security number, by any chance?
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  12. I just read Tim’s bio on Wikipedia.
    For a Laotian/Chinese refugee born in France, he seems to have benefited mightily from the educational opportunities and funding provided to him by Australian society despite living under the oppressive hand of the “dismal” numbers of white folks who were his neighbors and thought they were his friends.
    He’s obviously a very talented fellow.
    Nice to see that he’s grateful to the culture and values of his adopted country–so much so that as its race relations czar he intends to devote his working life to destroying its pride in its heritage and identity as well as its confidence as a nation.
    I wonder if he could have done so well in Laos, China (the mixed-race thing might been a problem) or even France, his native country?

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    Among the people in my neighborhood, it's not the Hmong (Laotian) who have a history of causing problems. It's a mixed bag with the Mexicans, just as it is with the Euro-Americans. But the worst group of all is the American Indians.
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  13. @Polynikes
    24% minority is a bit higher than I would have expected for Australia.

    The NYT pretends it’s hang-wringing but it’s really taking celebratory victory laps and trying to keep the fire burning as hot as possible. I bet there are some white people–somewhere–whose existence they haven’t yet lamented but I don’t know where.

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  14. The NYT is out of material because the city has entered terminal decadence. The only solution is for New York City to be degentrified. The prisons of upstate New York must be opened up as per BLM theory and the boroughs flooded with convicts. The time for forebearance is over and the cultural war that the coastal elite is waging on sensible people everywhere must be brought to their doorstep.

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  15. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Will the neoliberals ever demand that we subsidize/force white people to migrate to Third World countries, or are these countries already “vibrant” enough?

    Or is it sufficient to expect that YT will simply erase themselves through low fertility rates, more aggressive non-white males, and the reluctance of the huwhite beta male to pursue the thicc?

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  16. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If Australia is TOO WHITE, why doesn’t Soutphommasane stay in his own nation that has no Toomanywhititis problem?

    All these mass invaders prefer a nation that is white for emigration and then complain it’s ‘too white’.

    I don’t think such attitude was always around. I think it’s Jewish Attitude gone viral since non-whites all around the world come under PC and ‘Western’ media/academia.
    After all, for most of modern history, non-whites didn’t think it was their birthright to move to white nations and get good stuff.

    Jewish attitude has been “whites build all these nice nations to which we want total access and in which we want to rise to the top and take over.” This Lazarusean template has spread far and wide, even to Europe. Even as late as Thatcher, the idea was ‘American is philosophy, Europe is history’. Now, Europe is all about an ‘idea’ too. Whites in Europe exist to offer their societies to non-whites. Europea Inn has heart. Europe Inn has heart. Nest-Egg Europe must be cuckolded for the eggs of other races.

    War of Nesteggs:

    And this universalized Jewish attitude is, “White people exist primarily to make nice places and nice things that WE get to partake of.”

    But there’s one difference between Jews and non-whites. Whereas Jews can blend in (if they want to) and rise to the top, even higher than whites, many non-whites(with exception of Hindu elites and some East Asians) have no such ability and just come to be filled with resentment.

    So, a lot of these non-whites adopt the genericized version of Jewish Attitude but grow angry when they can’t rise up the ladder like the Jews.

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    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.
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  17. Anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:

    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.

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    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.
     
    Wow, we really can all get along after all. Rodney King's dream come true, sort of.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

     

    [No example supplied]

    Do they write those articles for free? If not who pays them? If they were to write an article not written like that, would they stop being paid by the people who pay them? Who provides the money to have these articles viewed by millions?
    , @Olorin
    Nah, it's basically careerism.

    Damien Cave is the bureau chief in Sydney, Australia. His previous foreign reporting includes postings in Mexico City, covering Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean, and in The Times’s Baghdad bureau from 2006 to 2007....

    Before coming to The Times, he was a staff writer and editor at Rolling Stone and Salon.com.

    ...A graduate of Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism and Boston College, Mr. Cave grew up in Worcester, Mass.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/by/damien-cave

    I bolded the bit about him being embedded with the Axis of Democratic Dispersion in the Middle East.

    He's trolling for "white supremacist" attention like a Tindr slut.

    https://twitter.com/damiencave/status/983940031474647041?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Need I remind everyone that the NYT, WaPo, CNN, and the like engineer their clickbait to tweak conservatives more-highly-developed sense of disgust? That attention/those clicks are the only thing keeping these crap media alive at this point.

    Starve them.
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  18. 99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European

    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas? We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.

    The Continental

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-continental/2869208?snl=1

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    We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.
     
    Being "Eurasian" is what saved the Jews in Japan's empire.

    https://forward.com/culture/359072/why-did-japan-treat-jews-differently-during-world-war-ii/
    , @Altai
    'Anglo-Celtic' is essentially the ethnicity we mean when we say Australian. Due to the relatively high Irish presence in the early days of colonisation and high rates of intermarriage particularly after religion began to seriously decline. It's a way to contrast them from the English, the Anglo-Saxon, particularly after Australian developed a very strong sense of national identity.

    Due to subsequent immigration being almost entirely from the British Isles and New Zealand (And later Germany) the presence of European immigrants in large numbers became remarkable and the large numbers of Italian, Greek and Polish who possessed very different cultural attitudes and high ethnocentrism, it's a term that has survived in meaning due to non-white immigration being a relatively recent phenomena in large scale. One wonders when it's going to stop since they're going to just a few cities.

    Here's a report from 2011, already those with pattern-recognition can see the problem would perhaps not exist but for all the recent immigrants from the subcontinent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwLfNK6niwg
    , @Alec Leamas


    99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European
     
    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas?
     
    I imagine that the non-British Isles European/whites (like descendants of Greeks or Italians) are set aside because they're slightly more "vibrant" than the non-whites, but still white so they don't count for true diversity purposes. Sort of like the WASP/Ethnic whites divide in the U.S. a hundred years ago or so.
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  19. OT this is a good summary floating around the chans, here slightly modified and hand-retyped:
    1 – President announces he’s pulling out of Syria.
    2 – Media and others dramatically oppose.
    3 – Assad, who wants us to leave, decides to gas his own citizens, thus guaranteeing that we won’t leave. The guy’s an enigma.
    4 – Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.
    5 – Meanwhile a section of Trump’s home building just happens to catch on fire. Eyewitnesses describe the site as completely engulfed. The fire blew out windows.
    6 – The FBI then inspects the President’s home for safety; it is on a different floor and was not affected by the blaze.
    7 – While the President is in the Situation Room trying to determine the truth about the chemical attack that could literally lead to WWIII, the FBI unconstitutionally raids his lawyer’s office and home and seizes everything. I guess you don’t have to define the scope of a warrant if you promise to sort things out later. This is a Constitutional crisis, the earlier talking point that it was approved by a Trump appointed judge is false. Dershowitz is meeting Trump tonight to possibly begin helping. Trump cancels South American trip.
    [omitting some stuff, basically the other countries are not backing down]
    12 – Then Israel bombs the scene of the supposed chemical attack before anyone but terrorists has seen it, making it impossible to verify anything.
    I’m not sure if the last item is true. Israel recently bombed a shared Syrian-Russian airbase and has been engaging in a massive amount of unreported activity, so it could be.

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    4 – Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.
     
    Didn't that happen last year after Trump suggested he was not going to pursue regime change in Syria?
    , @Mishra
    Thanks. I tried to raise Cain about this the other night but it didn't get a response. The Constitutional issue remains 'unresolved' in my mind. I'm just not getting it.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-committee-to-re-elect-the-president-has-reached-mexico-city/#comment-2281387
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  20. They need more placentals, too many marsupials.

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  21. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Did Tim P select the topic all by himself or did someone else suggest it?
    Is the editorial board at the NYT the appropriate place to inquire further?
    Perhaps they would go on the record to answer a few questions to reassure the world about the transparency and objectivity of their process.

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  22. Perth, Australia, and Cape Town, South Africa, both lie at about the same latitude in the Southern Hemisphere, and both cities have had to struggle with severe droughts.

    But Perth has managed to keep up its water supply because white men still run the place. In practice, the “supremacy” in “white supremacy” really means something like agency, competence, future-orientation, low time preference and other bourgeois characteristics which enable people to adapt and thrive in the face of adversity.

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    Whites aren't powerless in Cape Town.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Cape Town doesn't have enough water during a drought for the same reason Santa Barbara often runs out of water during droughts: the locals would rather take that risk in order to use water limitations as an excuse for keeping out the riffraff.

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  23. @Barnard
    He sounds like Khan's cousin from King of the Hill. You would think the Aussies would be more concerned about becoming a defacto colony of China, but multiculturalism trumps everything for the left.

    The Chinese appreciate their baizuo useful idiots.

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  24. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    If Australia is TOO WHITE, why doesn't Soutphommasane stay in his own nation that has no Toomanywhititis problem?

    All these mass invaders prefer a nation that is white for emigration and then complain it's 'too white'.

    I don't think such attitude was always around. I think it's Jewish Attitude gone viral since non-whites all around the world come under PC and 'Western' media/academia.
    After all, for most of modern history, non-whites didn't think it was their birthright to move to white nations and get good stuff.

    Jewish attitude has been "whites build all these nice nations to which we want total access and in which we want to rise to the top and take over." This Lazarusean template has spread far and wide, even to Europe. Even as late as Thatcher, the idea was 'American is philosophy, Europe is history'. Now, Europe is all about an 'idea' too. Whites in Europe exist to offer their societies to non-whites. Europea Inn has heart. Europe Inn has heart. Nest-Egg Europe must be cuckolded for the eggs of other races.

    War of Nesteggs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2q0HemaFs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMilnKGJdA

    And this universalized Jewish attitude is, "White people exist primarily to make nice places and nice things that WE get to partake of."

    But there's one difference between Jews and non-whites. Whereas Jews can blend in (if they want to) and rise to the top, even higher than whites, many non-whites(with exception of Hindu elites and some East Asians) have no such ability and just come to be filled with resentment.

    So, a lot of these non-whites adopt the genericized version of Jewish Attitude but grow angry when they can't rise up the ladder like the Jews.

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don’t deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban’s hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

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    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith.
     
    I don't quite buy this. Sure Western man doesn't have his game on right now, but i don't think it's primarily war sapped vitality. Almost all Westerners alive now--90%--we're even born before the War was over, have no memory of it or any sort of before/after.

    Nope what's wrong is the that Western man has been thoroughly propagandized, continuously from birth, across every sector from academia to entertainment that he is not entitled to his own nations.


    30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban’s hands.
     
    Ok, that's pretty bad, but an even bigger megaphone than Orban's has been propagandizing the other way, and not just for a few years, but has been droning in everyone's ears since birth.

    And really of this clueless cucked 30% how many were "Western man", versus "Western woman"?

    , @Pat Hannagan
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing.

    Why don't you buy him a beer and cheer him up then?
    , @Whiskey
    Absolutely the reverse. The problem is that not enough White men are plausible killers. Only killers really excite the ladies enough to make babies happen, in a nutshell. Lack of male violence and killing makes White Western men prosperous, and society rich, but turns off women in a rage of sexless frustration, and leads to immavasion. I'd venture about 90% of the 30% of voters in Hungary voting for Immavasion were young unmarried women. Duh. They benefit by their male cousins and brothers and fathers getting slaughtered by immavaders (or enslaved) as they can move up in society as concubines.

    What young Hungarian woman does not dream of being head of the Sultan of Hungary's harem? And mothering a Sultan, if she can battle Game of Thrones (women love that show) style with the other harem girls?

    Add in Oligarchs allied with upper management (ala the older White Boomer who never had to compete with women and gays and NAMS throwing White male men under the bus to diversify and enrich the company) and the pussy hat brigade enraged that most all White men are normal everyday joes not stone cold killers that cause tingles and you get the reason for the decline.

    The end of the Frontier and was bad enough for America, ending the Cold War made White men as disposable as a napkin. For Europe, the end of the Colonies was even worse, as it was the one way for a young White man to move up and also be a bad ass killer which women love love love.

    Most of Japan's post-War male population was likely an out and out war criminal murderer, which made them sexy. Hence the baby boom. Today the same genetically identical male population is a bunch of manga reading "herbivore men" and there is a baby strike by Japanese women.

    Give war a chance. Its easy if you try. Peace is over. If you want it.
    , @dfordoom

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing.
     
    Westerners don't have any sense of identity at all. They don't think of themselves as westerners, or white people. They're just individuals. They have no loyalty to tribe or community or nation or faith, and increasingly not even family. They exist solely in order to work and to consume. They measure their self-worth in money. They're isolated, atomised and alienated and they think that's normal.

    They will cheerfully sell out their own communities, their own ethnic groups, their own nations because those things mean nothing to them.

    They're too vacuous even for self-loathing. They just don't care.
    , @Pat Hannagan
    Your comment reminded me of:

    Jordan was famous in his day for his antiwar eugenics theory. He argued in 1902 that a big war would kill off the morally best, most self-sacrificial young men (the lieutenants who would lead the charges across No Man’s Land), while sparing the cunning who got themselves out of the draft with flat feet or assigned to a cushy job behind the lines.

    in that the mass dysgenic deaths of the 20th C would also kill off the most energetic, positive in-group White proponents leaving also the most moribund desultory types to expound upon their kind.

    I used to write in that generalised "western man" style too, it's kind of addictive. One of the many foibles of an arts degree.

    But, also on that topic, and another one for the iSteve club, has anyone come up with an HBD economy?

    My ongoing premise being that race is real and everyone knows it, however, when the penny drops or the curtains are pulled aside to reveal the truth that we were duped, has anyone thought through how an HBD economy would work?

    I think this is the cause of greatest resistance to admitting the truth of HBD. Fear that oneself and one's children will be crushed under the blind reality of genetics. If I were an HBD proponent I would be addressing how HBD could and should be employed to the betterment of "mankind".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnz-pD_bOHo
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing."

    How about

    "The Western man is being inoculated with a deep sense of passive self-loathing, and those who reject this inoculation are demonised and/or marginalised."
    , @Andy
    you are right, but in all honesty these two World Wars were Western Civilization's quite successful suicide attempt. Not the first time this happened, the fall of the Roman empire, the French revolution, the 1960s. There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.
    , @Andy
    you are right, but in all honesty these two World Wars were Western Civilization's quite successful suicide attempt. Not the first time this happened, the fall of the Roman empire, the French revolution, the 1960s. There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.
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  25. @advancedatheist
    Perth, Australia, and Cape Town, South Africa, both lie at about the same latitude in the Southern Hemisphere, and both cities have had to struggle with severe droughts.

    But Perth has managed to keep up its water supply because white men still run the place. In practice, the "supremacy" in "white supremacy" really means something like agency, competence, future-orientation, low time preference and other bourgeois characteristics which enable people to adapt and thrive in the face of adversity.

    Whites aren’t powerless in Cape Town.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Cape Town doesn’t have enough water during a drought for the same reason Santa Barbara often runs out of water during droughts: the locals would rather take that risk in order to use water limitations as an excuse for keeping out the riffraff.

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    But this is defensive soft power. In the end it will fail.
    , @Altai
    Day Zero has apparently been averted this year. (A part of me likes to think they used the most negative estimate to generate the crisis get people to conserve water and thinking about it so they can get the money to stop it when it's actually going to come)
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  26. Anagrams for “Tim Soutphommasane”:

    Thai’s mean; Mom pouts

    Thais mean mumps, too.

    Hmm, ma, Aussie not top.

    Oust him, peasant mom!

    Ha! Tim’s memo’s a put-on.

    Enthusiasm atop Mom.

    Summation: hate Poms.

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    You saved the best for last.
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  27. Campfires are even better when the NYT is used . Good to be back …..

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  28. @J.Ross
    OT this is a good summary floating around the chans, here slightly modified and hand-retyped:
    1 - President announces he's pulling out of Syria.
    2 - Media and others dramatically oppose.
    3 - Assad, who wants us to leave, decides to gas his own citizens, thus guaranteeing that we won't leave. The guy's an enigma.
    4 - Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.
    5 - Meanwhile a section of Trump's home building just happens to catch on fire. Eyewitnesses describe the site as completely engulfed. The fire blew out windows.
    6 - The FBI then inspects the President's home for safety; it is on a different floor and was not affected by the blaze.
    7 - While the President is in the Situation Room trying to determine the truth about the chemical attack that could literally lead to WWIII, the FBI unconstitutionally raids his lawyer's office and home and seizes everything. I guess you don't have to define the scope of a warrant if you promise to sort things out later. This is a Constitutional crisis, the earlier talking point that it was approved by a Trump appointed judge is false. Dershowitz is meeting Trump tonight to possibly begin helping. Trump cancels South American trip.
    [omitting some stuff, basically the other countries are not backing down]
    12 - Then Israel bombs the scene of the supposed chemical attack before anyone but terrorists has seen it, making it impossible to verify anything.
    I'm not sure if the last item is true. Israel recently bombed a shared Syrian-Russian airbase and has been engaging in a massive amount of unreported activity, so it could be.

    4 – Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.

    Didn’t that happen last year after Trump suggested he was not going to pursue regime change in Syria?

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    And just to keep the ritual there was a Russian assassination kerfluffle that went nowhere. These people are working on the Mustafa principle, or they think we are. "Okay, do it one more time."
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  29. Anonymous[915] • Disclaimer says:

    hey Steve,

    When are you going to wake the fuck up on boomer realism?

    A bunch of entitled, senile baby boomers who competed with neither women nor minorities saying, “gee, it’s a shame how white and male management is. Absolutely deplorable. I’m committed to making sure no white males younger than me are allowed to compete with my status. And not only that but I’ll be happy to “mentor” young Asian girls to finally get some diversity in here, haha.”

    Guillotines.

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    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    This 1000X.

    While females and minorities are always complaining about lack of mentorship, the reality that I see is that older white males bend over backwards to help anyone except younger white males.
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  30. Off-topic:
    The new MCAT now has explicitly politicized questions with “correct” answers. Example: “…the wage gap between men and women is the result of bigotry, sexism, racism, or biological differences (no other options are provided, and the “correct” answer is sexism).”

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/devorah-goldman/the-politicization-of-the-mcat

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    That will really stump the Tiger Mothers!
    , @Marty T
    That is so scary it may be time to grab our weapons of choice. No way we are voting ourselves out of this.
    , @Mishra
    FWIW, I'm noticing this sort of thing in every area of modern life. It's a major way in which new "facts" are created, and spread throughout society.

    It's stuff that "everyone knows" is true, so it doesn't need to be supported with anything like actual evidence.

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  31. @bartok

    99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European
     
    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas? We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.

    The Continental
    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-continental/2869208?snl=1

    We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.

    Being “Eurasian” is what saved the Jews in Japan’s empire.

    https://forward.com/culture/359072/why-did-japan-treat-jews-differently-during-world-war-ii/

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    In Embracing Defeat, John Dower (War Without Mercy) describes Japan bothering to lock up the, uh ... dozen or so Jews who were ... giving piano lessons on the plain of Yamato, out of loyalty to their German ally. One of them participated in the drafting of the imposed Constitution and influenced it to be more feminist.
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  32. @Anonymous
    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.

    Wow, we really can all get along after all. Rodney King’s dream come true, sort of.

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    Indeed, the Religion of Anti-Whitism is the most promising thing to unite all the peoples of the globe.
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  33. @Reg Cæsar

    We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.
     
    Being "Eurasian" is what saved the Jews in Japan's empire.

    https://forward.com/culture/359072/why-did-japan-treat-jews-differently-during-world-war-ii/

    In Embracing Defeat, John Dower (War Without Mercy) describes Japan bothering to lock up the, uh … dozen or so Jews who were … giving piano lessons on the plain of Yamato, out of loyalty to their German ally. One of them participated in the drafting of the imposed Constitution and influenced it to be more feminist.

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  34. @jjbees
    Off-topic:
    The new MCAT now has explicitly politicized questions with "correct" answers. Example: "...the wage gap between men and women is the result of bigotry, sexism, racism, or biological differences (no other options are provided, and the "correct" answer is sexism)."

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/devorah-goldman/the-politicization-of-the-mcat

    That will really stump the Tiger Mothers!

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    Muh Legacy Preference
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  35. @istevefan

    4 – Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.
     
    Didn't that happen last year after Trump suggested he was not going to pursue regime change in Syria?

    And just to keep the ritual there was a Russian assassination kerfluffle that went nowhere. These people are working on the Mustafa principle, or they think we are. “Okay, do it one more time.”

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  36. @J.Ross
    OT this is a good summary floating around the chans, here slightly modified and hand-retyped:
    1 - President announces he's pulling out of Syria.
    2 - Media and others dramatically oppose.
    3 - Assad, who wants us to leave, decides to gas his own citizens, thus guaranteeing that we won't leave. The guy's an enigma.
    4 - Same thing happened last year, same month, but in that iteration of this suspiciously regular phenomenon, Trump caved to the media and bombed Assad.
    5 - Meanwhile a section of Trump's home building just happens to catch on fire. Eyewitnesses describe the site as completely engulfed. The fire blew out windows.
    6 - The FBI then inspects the President's home for safety; it is on a different floor and was not affected by the blaze.
    7 - While the President is in the Situation Room trying to determine the truth about the chemical attack that could literally lead to WWIII, the FBI unconstitutionally raids his lawyer's office and home and seizes everything. I guess you don't have to define the scope of a warrant if you promise to sort things out later. This is a Constitutional crisis, the earlier talking point that it was approved by a Trump appointed judge is false. Dershowitz is meeting Trump tonight to possibly begin helping. Trump cancels South American trip.
    [omitting some stuff, basically the other countries are not backing down]
    12 - Then Israel bombs the scene of the supposed chemical attack before anyone but terrorists has seen it, making it impossible to verify anything.
    I'm not sure if the last item is true. Israel recently bombed a shared Syrian-Russian airbase and has been engaging in a massive amount of unreported activity, so it could be.

    Thanks. I tried to raise Cain about this the other night but it didn’t get a response. The Constitutional issue remains ‘unresolved’ in my mind. I’m just not getting it.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-committee-to-re-elect-the-president-has-reached-mexico-city/#comment-2281387

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    I think we have to see some sort of action on this (not necessarily from Trump, either; they could get their fake trial and watch as it makes Trump more popular), this is really overplaying their hand.
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  37. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    The only thing that will save America/Australia is a president with the balls to take control of the media – probably with the military like the U.S. did in Iraq: march in and take over the TV studios. Tell the employees they’re all laid-off, and that their last check is in the mail – but those who do as they’re told can stay. The teleprompter readers who think themselves “journalists” will leave. The technicians and camera men will stay and keep food on their children’s table. You’ll hire other, patriotic, teleprompter readers and America/Australia will be saved.

    “Hey Donald, you know how you love good press? Well, there’s one sure away to make guarantee that you always get great press!”

    Short of a President who does this, the West is doomed.

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    Every Prez of US & Oz PM has balls to do that, but they did it by a more civilized way, privatized them into a few news magnates hands like Murdoch news corp.

    Then they have the msm brainwashed all of you once you are borned..... your wish has come true earlier than you think of.…hehehehe
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  38. @Steve Sailer
    That will really stump the Tiger Mothers!

    Muh Legacy Preference

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  39. @Mishra
    Thanks. I tried to raise Cain about this the other night but it didn't get a response. The Constitutional issue remains 'unresolved' in my mind. I'm just not getting it.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-committee-to-re-elect-the-president-has-reached-mexico-city/#comment-2281387

    I think we have to see some sort of action on this (not necessarily from Trump, either; they could get their fake trial and watch as it makes Trump more popular), this is really overplaying their hand.

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    Can't see it making Trump significantly more popular, but I can certainly imagine that they picked up enough info in Cohen's office files to hang him whenever and wherever they want. (In case they didn't already have enough.) It's a triumph for Deep State but the weird thing is that no one's really contesting it.
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  40. Time to reinstate the White Australia policy.

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    Time to reinstate the White Australia policy.
     
    Well if it keeps out spiteful, racist and ultimately terrific bores like Tim Soutphommasane then go for it.

    This creep is a great argument against family reunification and diversity scholarships.
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  41. It is rude to allow guys like him to be discriminated against by whites in Australia. He should be sent to a rainbow nation, like South Africa. Some place with powerful affirmative action programs against whites, so that their evil influence is held at bay. Some place where whites are clearly in the minority.

    On second though, perhaps, it would be kinder to send him to Zimbabwe, since there are less whites there, and they don’t control any any institutions.

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  42. @Steve Sailer
    Whites aren't powerless in Cape Town.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Cape Town doesn't have enough water during a drought for the same reason Santa Barbara often runs out of water during droughts: the locals would rather take that risk in order to use water limitations as an excuse for keeping out the riffraff.

    But this is defensive soft power. In the end it will fail.

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  43. @Old White Guy
    I just read Tim's bio on Wikipedia.
    For a Laotian/Chinese refugee born in France, he seems to have benefited mightily from the educational opportunities and funding provided to him by Australian society despite living under the oppressive hand of the "dismal" numbers of white folks who were his neighbors and thought they were his friends.
    He's obviously a very talented fellow.
    Nice to see that he's grateful to the culture and values of his adopted country--so much so that as its race relations czar he intends to devote his working life to destroying its pride in its heritage and identity as well as its confidence as a nation.
    I wonder if he could have done so well in Laos, China (the mixed-race thing might been a problem) or even France, his native country?

    Among the people in my neighborhood, it’s not the Hmong (Laotian) who have a history of causing problems. It’s a mixed bag with the Mexicans, just as it is with the Euro-Americans. But the worst group of all is the American Indians.

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    Is this Minneapolis you are talking about?
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  44. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith.

    I don’t quite buy this. Sure Western man doesn’t have his game on right now, but i don’t think it’s primarily war sapped vitality. Almost all Westerners alive now–90%–we’re even born before the War was over, have no memory of it or any sort of before/after.

    Nope what’s wrong is the that Western man has been thoroughly propagandized, continuously from birth, across every sector from academia to entertainment that he is not entitled to his own nations.

    30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban’s hands.

    Ok, that’s pretty bad, but an even bigger megaphone than Orban’s has been propagandizing the other way, and not just for a few years, but has been droning in everyone’s ears since birth.

    And really of this clueless cucked 30% how many were “Western man”, versus “Western woman”?

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    Elites/Masses

    Officers suffered a higher casualty rate in both World Wars. These represented a higher share of the more virile members of the aristocracy in Europe. Feminism filled the gap, this might also explain why deviants rose in the clergy. Many crowned heads were removed at the end of both wars as well.

    The carnage experienced by the Japanese was even greater, and produced a society completely at odds with the 1867-1931 society. While the Japanese aren't subjected to the same amount of dispossession propaganda, they are still spiritually deracinated and obsessively consumerist.

    The previous gernations that began the slide into hedonism and decadence didn't need propoganda to adopt suicidal liberal tendencies. They genuniely believed they had it coming, at least the Japanese elites only committed seppuku on themselves.

    We've been here before, Epicurus had similar ideas, born out of the apparently senseless violence of the Macedonian conquests.

    ---

    Yes, men are less nuts than women in most instances. But will men simply putting their foot down lead to sanity with women? Or will it lead to the women accelerating their exogamy with the invaders?
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  45. Tim Soutphommasane is a pretty smart guy. For a progressive, his views appear to be more nuanced than those of the standard issue multi-culti SJW.

    He seems to be big on promoting patriotism and may be a sort of crypto-assimilationist.

    There’s a synopsis of his views on Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaiming_Patriotism

    Soutphommasane argues that whilst patriotism has its dangers, “it is no different to other forms of loyalty or love”. He opines that patriotism is necessary for a thriving nation, as serves to form bonds between people which promote progress, direction and collective self-improvement.

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    Well in that case he'd better advocate for a 30-year moratorium on immigration to Australia. Otherwise there won't be a Down Under for the next wave of Indians and Chinese to assimilate into.

    One Polish immigrant to Australia isn't so enamored with Dr. Tim's take on things:

    Yassmin and Tim, from migrant to migrant, please stop whinging

    An interesting tidbit from this column is that Dr. Tim makes 340 000 AUD per year in his capacity as Australia's Race Discrimination Commissioner, an appointment which is set to expire this year. Methinks he wants a second term.
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  46. Why do i get the feeling that if a bunch of white people flat out left the planet and established a colony on Mars, we’d see articles bemoaning their “racism” and demanding that “people of color” be allowed into the Martian colony.

    If white people build it … they will come. *Must* be allowed to come. White people off doing their own thing … racism!

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    Yep.

    As Justin Hayward might have sung on Jeff Wayne's iconic 1978 'War of the Worlds' album, 'The chances of Indians immigrating to Mars are a million-to-one each way'.
    , @Pericles
    Let me recommend the movie Elysium.
    , @Anon
    Oh you racist old man. Why won't you allow non white to follow wherever you go, Mars or Mercury? Didn't we sing together "we are the world", its open one world, one nation. …

    When we are done with the West's social welfare, we will move on for greener pastures like grazing herds. Don't worry, won't be long, its drying up.

    Damn Chinese, they never adopt these West stupid civilization of diversification & multiculturalism, empty talking about admiring our western culture. We shall export this idea to them.
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  47. I’d be interested to know the sources of Australian immigration. In my experience, national politics come low in the priorities of east Asian immigrants. East Asian immigrant communities seem to resemble colonies with little interest in what does not affect them locally. The ones that do venture outside of the little fences they build for themselves are the ones who dilute their Asian identity.

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    That's why it's critical that you don't let too many in at a time. Absorption of Indians and Chinese through intermarriage isn't impossible. I know five young adults who fall into the mixed white/asian category, and despite absorbing a young lifetime's worth of anti-white propaganda, they all identify as white.
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  48. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mishra

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.
     
    Wow, we really can all get along after all. Rodney King's dream come true, sort of.

    Indeed, the Religion of Anti-Whitism is the most promising thing to unite all the peoples of the globe.

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  49. And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

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    ... what is this replying to? Why should the majority of South Africans control anything? How are two guys named Patel a majority of a country of millions?
    , @ben tillman

    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.
     
    And why shouldn't we? When caterers come to your house, do they become the owners?
    , @Anon
    Oppenheimer family
    Nathan Kirsch

    Cyril Ramaphosa and his brother-in-law are quite wealthy themselves.

    The ANC is after Chinese capital, remove the Boers and install Chinese managers running the now cronyist owned farms.

    Blacks have eight of the nine provinces. I doubt blacks are paying 8/9ths of the tax. The municipal boundaries were drawn in such a way as to exclude any city having a white supermajority.

    I do doubt the willingness of whites to sacrifice living standards in pursuit of autonomy or independence.

    But the ANC should be told to live up to the letter of their own laws. South Africa is "too black" and they have too few Muslims. Look at the vibrancy in the Secheylles.
    , @res

    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.
     
    Hopefully the bolding makes things clear.
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  50. What would happen if such demands for equity were addressed to Jews in America, regarding media ownership, academic influence, financial influence, etc? Would that be the day when merit rather than diversity becomes the most important principle again?

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  51. Off Topic:

    Does anyone know the standard deviation between embryos for a polygenic trait?

    Ie, im in an argument with a buddy over whether screening embryos for IQ potential will be a game changer, and both of us realized we dont know how much of a variance there is between the “potential iq” of different embryos from one set of parent. Are we looking at 1 point of IQ difference, or 10?

    I cant seem to find a study on this…

    Thanks,

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    Table 1. How the maximum amount of IQ gain (assuming a Gaussian distribution of predicted IQs among the embryos with a standard deviation of 7.5 points) might depend on the number of embryos used in selection

    Selection| IQ points gained
    1 in 2| 4.2
    1 in 10| 11.5
    1 in 100| 18.8
    1 in 1000| 24.3
    5 generations of 1-in-10| < 65 [b/c diminishing returns]
    10 generations of 1-in-10| < 130 [b/c diminishing returns]
    , @res

    Does anyone know the standard deviation between embryos for a polygenic trait?
     
    I would be interested in such a study as well. Gwern has a take on this (not sure if this is a quote of someone else or not) which seems reasonable: https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection

    Shulman & Bostrom’s upper bound works as follows:

    Standard practice today involves the creation of fewer than ten embryos. Selection among greater numbers than that would require multiple IVF cycles, which is expensive and burdensome. Therefore 1-in-10 selection may represent an upper limit of what would currently be practically feasible …The standard deviation of IQ in the population is about 15. Davies et al. (2011) estimates that common additive variation can account for half of variance in adult fluid intelligence in its sample. Siblings share half their genetic material on average (ignoring the known assortative mating for intelligence, which will reduce the visible variance among embryos). Thus, in a crude estimate, variance is cut by 75 per cent and standard deviation by 50 per cent. Adjustments for assortative mating, deviation from the Gaussian distribution, and other factors would adjust this estimate, but not drastically. These figures were generated by simulating 10 million couples producing the listed number of embryos and selecting the one with the highest predicted IQ based on the additive variation.

    Table 1. How the maximum amount of IQ gain (assuming a Gaussian distribution of predicted IQs among the embryos with a standard deviation of 7.5 points) might depend on the number of embryos used in selection:

    Selection Average IQ gain
    1 in 2 4.2
    1 in 10 11.5
    1 in 100 18.8
    1 in 1000 24.3

     

    TLDR: more like 10 points.

    P.S. If you and your buddy are interested in this topic https://www.amazon.com/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0198739834 is worth a look as is a search on Steve Hsu's blog for PGD: https://www.google.com/search?q=PGD+site%3Ainfoproc.blogspot.com
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  52. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing.

    Why don’t you buy him a beer and cheer him up then?

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  53. @anony-mouse
    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    … what is this replying to? Why should the majority of South Africans control anything? How are two guys named Patel a majority of a country of millions?

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    Gupta, not Patel.

    Same story since 1871, only the names of the looters change.
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  54. @J.Ross
    I think we have to see some sort of action on this (not necessarily from Trump, either; they could get their fake trial and watch as it makes Trump more popular), this is really overplaying their hand.

    Can’t see it making Trump significantly more popular, but I can certainly imagine that they picked up enough info in Cohen’s office files to hang him whenever and wherever they want. (In case they didn’t already have enough.) It’s a triumph for Deep State but the weird thing is that no one’s really contesting it.

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  55. The obsession is weird.

    It’s almost as if someone figured out that:

    If you make it about people, being white…

    Then people who might be white face a double-bind when trying to confront it:

    Do nothing and let the train and whatever list of demands that comes chained to it, proceed
    Or
    Unify in order to create enough will to stop the train, and be demonized for – unifying on the basis of being white – which makes the train stronger

    You can use the double-bind as a cudgel to prosecute almost any policy agenda and the more audacious, it seems, the better

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  56. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith.
     
    I don't quite buy this. Sure Western man doesn't have his game on right now, but i don't think it's primarily war sapped vitality. Almost all Westerners alive now--90%--we're even born before the War was over, have no memory of it or any sort of before/after.

    Nope what's wrong is the that Western man has been thoroughly propagandized, continuously from birth, across every sector from academia to entertainment that he is not entitled to his own nations.


    30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban’s hands.
     
    Ok, that's pretty bad, but an even bigger megaphone than Orban's has been propagandizing the other way, and not just for a few years, but has been droning in everyone's ears since birth.

    And really of this clueless cucked 30% how many were "Western man", versus "Western woman"?

    Elites/Masses

    Officers suffered a higher casualty rate in both World Wars. These represented a higher share of the more virile members of the aristocracy in Europe. Feminism filled the gap, this might also explain why deviants rose in the clergy. Many crowned heads were removed at the end of both wars as well.

    The carnage experienced by the Japanese was even greater, and produced a society completely at odds with the 1867-1931 society. While the Japanese aren’t subjected to the same amount of dispossession propaganda, they are still spiritually deracinated and obsessively consumerist.

    The previous gernations that began the slide into hedonism and decadence didn’t need propoganda to adopt suicidal liberal tendencies. They genuniely believed they had it coming, at least the Japanese elites only committed seppuku on themselves.

    We’ve been here before, Epicurus had similar ideas, born out of the apparently senseless violence of the Macedonian conquests.

    Yes, men are less nuts than women in most instances. But will men simply putting their foot down lead to sanity with women? Or will it lead to the women accelerating their exogamy with the invaders?

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    The War affecting genetics doesn't work at all.

    It's very hard to move the needle on selection with a one generation event that isn't absolutely catastrophic. And remember, even if the "best and bravest" men preferentially died, their sisters--and in some cases even their young sons and daughters!--are still around. And of course the same genes they had are floating all over their nation's gene pool.

    Then you have the nations problem. Poland, the Soviet Union and Germany took really substantial population hits. But the Soviet Union sure looked "manly" enough to fight the Cold War, and Russia looks like one of the least cucked states today. Poland (along with maybe Hungary) looks like about the least cucked Western-Christian nation. Germany does seem pretty cucked. But it bounced back to the Wirtschaftswunder and the people still seem to perform like Germans. The cucked problem seems to be entirely the continuous war guilt "bad German!" propaganda they get from their baby bottle on through life, not the actual War.

    Then on the flip side a bunch of nations' losses were trivial. America's 400,000 wouldn't move pop-gen at all. Most all of our best and bravest came home. (I grew up with these dads in the neighborhood. Guys who hit the beaches, or drove tanks. One dad in my scout troop flew a dive bomber at Midway and helped sink a Japanese carrier.) And America is clearly cuck propaganda central. We pitch "diversity"--i.e. suicide--like a used car dealer.

    Sweden sat the War out and is cuck central. The Swedes have committed suicide-by-diversity.


    Ok this was overly wordy, but i hope it suffices. The War changing pop-gen has nothing to do with it. No commenter need float that bogus theory again.
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  57. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    Absolutely the reverse. The problem is that not enough White men are plausible killers. Only killers really excite the ladies enough to make babies happen, in a nutshell. Lack of male violence and killing makes White Western men prosperous, and society rich, but turns off women in a rage of sexless frustration, and leads to immavasion. I’d venture about 90% of the 30% of voters in Hungary voting for Immavasion were young unmarried women. Duh. They benefit by their male cousins and brothers and fathers getting slaughtered by immavaders (or enslaved) as they can move up in society as concubines.

    What young Hungarian woman does not dream of being head of the Sultan of Hungary’s harem? And mothering a Sultan, if she can battle Game of Thrones (women love that show) style with the other harem girls?

    Add in Oligarchs allied with upper management (ala the older White Boomer who never had to compete with women and gays and NAMS throwing White male men under the bus to diversify and enrich the company) and the pussy hat brigade enraged that most all White men are normal everyday joes not stone cold killers that cause tingles and you get the reason for the decline.

    The end of the Frontier and was bad enough for America, ending the Cold War made White men as disposable as a napkin. For Europe, the end of the Colonies was even worse, as it was the one way for a young White man to move up and also be a bad ass killer which women love love love.

    Most of Japan’s post-War male population was likely an out and out war criminal murderer, which made them sexy. Hence the baby boom. Today the same genetically identical male population is a bunch of manga reading “herbivore men” and there is a baby strike by Japanese women.

    Give war a chance. Its easy if you try. Peace is over. If you want it.

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  58. @Reg Cæsar
    Anagrams for "Tim Soutphommasane":

    Thai's mean; Mom pouts

    Thais mean mumps, too.

    Hmm, ma, Aussie not top.

    Oust him, peasant mom!

    Ha! Tim's memo's a put-on.

    Enthusiasm atop Mom.

    Summation: hate Poms.

    You saved the best for last.

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  59. @anony-mouse
    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    And why shouldn’t we? When caterers come to your house, do they become the owners?

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  60. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @andy
    Soutphommasane is a name of Lao extraction. And I'm sure a hellhole like Australia has a lot to learn from Laos, one of the poorest countries of earth.

    Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner

    Most likely 100% ethnic Chinese who took on a Laotian/Thai last name to avoid excessive attention.

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    "Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner"

    Race discrimination commissioner -- is that his actual title? Soon to follow: "Commissioner of anti-Sexism", "Department of Homophobia Eradication".
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  61. @Anonymous
    hey Steve,

    When are you going to wake the fuck up on boomer realism?


    A bunch of entitled, senile baby boomers who competed with neither women nor minorities saying, "gee, it's a shame how white and male management is. Absolutely deplorable. I'm committed to making sure no white males younger than me are allowed to compete with my status. And not only that but I'll be happy to "mentor" young Asian girls to finally get some diversity in here, haha."

    Guillotines.

    This 1000X.

    While females and minorities are always complaining about lack of mentorship, the reality that I see is that older white males bend over backwards to help anyone except younger white males.

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    Agreed. Spent my entire life listening to lectures about the 'old boy network' of white males helping the next generation of white males ascend career ladders. But in real life older white males did everything possible to help everyone but white males, who were always seen as competitive threats, and white males besides.
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  62. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:

    Great article! Lots of honesty.

    The invaders are making it plain that they are not “immigrants” and that they expect to take over the country by removing whites from power.

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    Not quite crickets: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/09/outrage-after-2-men-sentenced-to-probation-for-gang-rape-13-year-old.html
    Even has photos of all of them.

    This was strange though:

    Jacolby Williams' trial was scheduled for March 5; it's unclear what transpired.
     
    Especially given this: http://coloradosprings.com/2-men-who-raped-colorado-springs-13-year-old-get-probation-despite-grandfather-begging-to-make-them-pay/article/1623748

    The attack occurred after the girl met with Jacolby Williams at the Citadel Mall and ended up at his apartment, where some of the males played videogames before the girl was lured into a bedroom and assaulted in the dark, according to her account.

     

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  64. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @anony-mouse
    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    Oppenheimer family
    Nathan Kirsch

    Cyril Ramaphosa and his brother-in-law are quite wealthy themselves.

    The ANC is after Chinese capital, remove the Boers and install Chinese managers running the now cronyist owned farms.

    Blacks have eight of the nine provinces. I doubt blacks are paying 8/9ths of the tax. The municipal boundaries were drawn in such a way as to exclude any city having a white supermajority.

    I do doubt the willingness of whites to sacrifice living standards in pursuit of autonomy or independence.

    But the ANC should be told to live up to the letter of their own laws. South Africa is “too black” and they have too few Muslims. Look at the vibrancy in the Secheylles.

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  65. Anonymous[817] • Disclaimer says:

    Certain quarters won’t be satisfied until white people vanish from the globe entirely.

    The sad fact is that the entire political elite of western nations agree with them – and have formulated immigration policy specifically to attain that goal.

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  66. @SimpleSong
    This 1000X.

    While females and minorities are always complaining about lack of mentorship, the reality that I see is that older white males bend over backwards to help anyone except younger white males.

    Agreed. Spent my entire life listening to lectures about the ‘old boy network’ of white males helping the next generation of white males ascend career ladders. But in real life older white males did everything possible to help everyone but white males, who were always seen as competitive threats, and white males besides.

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    Old boy net insofar as it was legitimate was about modern day nobility, not anything racial (cf Jeb partying with ruling caste Mexicans or the Patels teaching Zuma how to sit up and beg). Today South American and Asian societies have very robust old boy nets which are totally immune from legacy media criticism.
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  67. Anonymous[817] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m mightily surprised that the ‘non-European origin’ proportion of the Australian population is as high as 24%.

    From virtually zero to 24% in under 50 years. The implication is obvious, yet the perception of Australia being a ‘hyper’ white country – amongst those whom have never visited Australia – has a very strong persistence.

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    Growth rates turning Australia from around 1% non European to around 24% non European in 50 years imply an annual rate of growth of about 10%, or thereabouts, in the non European descended population. This in turn implies a non European majority Australia in under ten years' time. Thus, in the near future, the non European part of the Australian population can, fully legitimately and democratically vote in any changes they wish to the established Australian civic settlement.
    - all this with the obvious full consent and agreement of the white Australians of the previous five decades who knew, or at the very least, should have known of this outcome of the policies they *voluntarily choose* to implement.

    The moral is whatever whites do, no matter wherever in the world they live, it's never ever enough for the anti-white forces.
    , @Flip
    "Today, Australians of British and other European ancestries are the dominant majority in Australia, estimated at 85–92% of the total population."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Australians
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  68. @anonymous
    I can't figure out why you delay/censor the funniest/most-insightful comments.

    He doesn’t. Mine always go right through.

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  69. Anonymous[817] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    Why do i get the feeling that if a bunch of white people flat out left the planet and established a colony on Mars, we'd see articles bemoaning their "racism" and demanding that "people of color" be allowed into the Martian colony.

    If white people build it ... they will come. *Must* be allowed to come. White people off doing their own thing ... racism!

    Yep.

    As Justin Hayward might have sung on Jeff Wayne’s iconic 1978 ‘War of the Worlds’ album, ‘The chances of Indians immigrating to Mars are a million-to-one each way’.

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  70. OT from the Wall Street Journal
    After unconstitutionally raiding Trump’s lawyer’s office and home, the FBI asked the Trump organization for the porn star documents. After the raid. In other words it is strongly implied that even with violation of attorney-client privilege and two searches they do not have these documents (proving hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, which now everybody knows about anyway).

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    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition. In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and 'normal', but he is who he is -- and he is definitely the guy who was elected. He never pulled the wool over anyone's eyes. Trump has been Trump for decades and he certainly was Trump during the campaign.

    It's really hypocritical when you look at people like JFK/MLK who are held up as almost religious figures by the left.
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  71. @Mishra
    Agreed. Spent my entire life listening to lectures about the 'old boy network' of white males helping the next generation of white males ascend career ladders. But in real life older white males did everything possible to help everyone but white males, who were always seen as competitive threats, and white males besides.

    Old boy net insofar as it was legitimate was about modern day nobility, not anything racial (cf Jeb partying with ruling caste Mexicans or the Patels teaching Zuma how to sit up and beg). Today South American and Asian societies have very robust old boy nets which are totally immune from legacy media criticism.

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  72. @Anonymous

    Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner
     
    Most likely 100% ethnic Chinese who took on a Laotian/Thai last name to avoid excessive attention.

    “Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner”

    Race discrimination commissioner — is that his actual title? Soon to follow: “Commissioner of anti-Sexism”, “Department of Homophobia Eradication”.

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    Canada's 'Minister of Citizenship and Immigration' -- he's the one in the middle.

    http://i2.wp.com/mvslim.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Canada.png
    , @Altai
    Britain introduced one in the 70s after the second generation from Windrush came of age and then the other former dominions did too when the vibrancy got to sufficient levels.
    , @Yngvar
    A commissioner was also known as a commissar back in a time lost to history.
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  74. NYT, Newsweek, egal.

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    The blacks are stupid, why kill these productive whites. They should guard them like a productive goose producing golden egg.

    May be they can learn something from Malaysia ex-PM, Mahatir, but he is actually a Indian ethnic Muslim pretended to be Malay.

    Once, he told his Malay voters who grew very discontented that 30% Chinese ethnics minority controlling 70% economics, when the Malays are hoarding 100% political power.

    Listen, we Malays don't even has a Malay word in our language called STRIVE! Then he told a story:

    When the Malay saw a coconut tree, he think of taking a good siesta underneath.

    When the Indian saw a coconut tree, he his thinking of stealing some of the fruits for sale.

    When the Chinese saw them, he is thinking of employing the Malay man to guard the tree, and have the Indian to pluck the fruit and sell for him.

    So Chinese is naturally born to be acute business man. Let them do the biz, and we shall tax them and share their economic fruits.
     
    All the Malays agreed happily, and life goes on. The country continue to prosperous on growing Chinese tax revenue to provide welfare for the Malays.

    The whites in South Africa are hardworking guys, let them do all the hardwork & development, provide fair pay job for the blacks, and contribute tax revenue for blacks social welfare & development. Its a win win. The blacks will crash their economy unless China help them everything including birth control.
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  75. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing.

    Westerners don’t have any sense of identity at all. They don’t think of themselves as westerners, or white people. They’re just individuals. They have no loyalty to tribe or community or nation or faith, and increasingly not even family. They exist solely in order to work and to consume. They measure their self-worth in money. They’re isolated, atomised and alienated and they think that’s normal.

    They will cheerfully sell out their own communities, their own ethnic groups, their own nations because those things mean nothing to them.

    They’re too vacuous even for self-loathing. They just don’t care.

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  76. @Stephen Paul Foster
    "Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner"

    Race discrimination commissioner -- is that his actual title? Soon to follow: "Commissioner of anti-Sexism", "Department of Homophobia Eradication".

    Canada’s ‘Minister of Citizenship and Immigration’ — he’s the one in the middle.

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    https://twitter.com/AhmedDHussen/status/985918823525167104
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  77. @AnotherDad
    Why do i get the feeling that if a bunch of white people flat out left the planet and established a colony on Mars, we'd see articles bemoaning their "racism" and demanding that "people of color" be allowed into the Martian colony.

    If white people build it ... they will come. *Must* be allowed to come. White people off doing their own thing ... racism!

    Let me recommend the movie Elysium.

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  78. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard
    He sounds like Khan's cousin from King of the Hill. You would think the Aussies would be more concerned about becoming a defacto colony of China, but multiculturalism trumps everything for the left.

    My Vietnamese barber is always telling me to be aware that the Chinese in Canada are colonists.

    He says everyone in Asia found this out the hard way over the years, but we don’t quite get it yet.

    Of course to most Canadians there isn’t much difference between Vietnamese and Chinese …I guess it’s just the sheer overwhelming number of Chinese.

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  79. @newrouter
    "In a Proudly Diverse Australia, White People Still Run Almost Everything"

    compare and contrast:

    "In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything"

    “In a proudly diverse Japan, Japanese run everything.”

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  80. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    OT from the Wall Street Journal
    After unconstitutionally raiding Trump's lawyer's office and home, the FBI asked the Trump organization for the porn star documents. After the raid. In other words it is strongly implied that even with violation of attorney-client privilege and two searches they do not have these documents (proving hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, which now everybody knows about anyway).
    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/983753296081977344

    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition. In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and ‘normal’, but he is who he is — and he is definitely the guy who was elected. He never pulled the wool over anyone’s eyes. Trump has been Trump for decades and he certainly was Trump during the campaign.

    It’s really hypocritical when you look at people like JFK/MLK who are held up as almost religious figures by the left.

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    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?
     
    My thought too. What the heck is wrong with such a payout? Adultery is--no longer--illegal. So it's not paying to cover up illegal activity. Just a mutually agreed deal of silence. Lawsuit settlements seem to often have exactly these terms. Actually seems to me Trump has a legal case against Daniels for taking the money then reneging on the contract.

    What actually strikes me as illegal is threatening people, what the Clintons did--just sort of skirting the edges of the law--that these bimbos should shut up if they know what's good for them.

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition.
     
    You don't even have to be Trump. What's the point of a "beauty contest" without beauty? If women think it's degrading ... then don't enter a contest to be judged on your looks. The plain fact is women are wired up for such "look at me" display and a lot of women seem to really like it. (Actually a for a good number of young women it seems to be all they care about--see Facebook.)

    In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and ‘normal’,
     
    Agreed. However, these are times of crisis. Even before normal upstanding family man, i'd take simply "articulate". I'm perfect fine with Trump being a hound, if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case. The nationalist case is orders of magnitude more coherent and persuasive than globalist gobbledygook and even "extreme" positions like the "muslim ban" easily win in popular opinion. But it needs to be clearly articulated.
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  81. @PiltdownMan
    Tim Soutphommasane is a pretty smart guy. For a progressive, his views appear to be more nuanced than those of the standard issue multi-culti SJW.

    He seems to be big on promoting patriotism and may be a sort of crypto-assimilationist.

    There's a synopsis of his views on Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaiming_Patriotism

    Soutphommasane argues that whilst patriotism has its dangers, "it is no different to other forms of loyalty or love". He opines that patriotism is necessary for a thriving nation, as serves to form bonds between people which promote progress, direction and collective self-improvement.
     

    Well in that case he’d better advocate for a 30-year moratorium on immigration to Australia. Otherwise there won’t be a Down Under for the next wave of Indians and Chinese to assimilate into.

    One Polish immigrant to Australia isn’t so enamored with Dr. Tim’s take on things:

    Yassmin and Tim, from migrant to migrant, please stop whinging

    An interesting tidbit from this column is that Dr. Tim makes 340 000 AUD per year in his capacity as Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner, an appointment which is set to expire this year. Methinks he wants a second term.

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    Great article from the Spectator. Thanks!

    It does make one wonder how people like that reconcile their success with all of that horrific racism.
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  82. @Thirdeye
    I'd be interested to know the sources of Australian immigration. In my experience, national politics come low in the priorities of east Asian immigrants. East Asian immigrant communities seem to resemble colonies with little interest in what does not affect them locally. The ones that do venture outside of the little fences they build for themselves are the ones who dilute their Asian identity.

    That’s why it’s critical that you don’t let too many in at a time. Absorption of Indians and Chinese through intermarriage isn’t impossible. I know five young adults who fall into the mixed white/asian category, and despite absorbing a young lifetime’s worth of anti-white propaganda, they all identify as white.

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  83. @jjbees
    Off-topic:
    The new MCAT now has explicitly politicized questions with "correct" answers. Example: "...the wage gap between men and women is the result of bigotry, sexism, racism, or biological differences (no other options are provided, and the "correct" answer is sexism)."

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/devorah-goldman/the-politicization-of-the-mcat

    That is so scary it may be time to grab our weapons of choice. No way we are voting ourselves out of this.

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  84. @andy
    Soutphommasane is a name of Lao extraction. And I'm sure a hellhole like Australia has a lot to learn from Laos, one of the poorest countries of earth.

    Thinethavone ‘Tim’ Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]

    [Invade the world, Vietnam war, French Indo-China, recolonization after WWII]

    His family was resettled by the Family Reunion Program of the Australian Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs to Sydney’s south-western suburbs in 1985,[5] where he was raised. He was educated at Hurlstone Agricultural High School.[5]

    [Invade the world leads to invite the world, I wonder if they read Camp of the Saints and decided it was time to leave France.]

    Soutphommasane is the author of three books: The Virtuous Citizen: Patriotism in a Multicultural Society (Cambridge University Press, 2012), Don’t Go Back To Where You Came From: Why Multiculturalism Works (New South Books, 2012) which in 2013 won the NSW Premier’s Literary Award in the ‘Community Relations Commission Award’ section,[8] and Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives (Cambridge University Press, 2009).

    He was also co-editor (with Nick Dyrenfurth) of All That’s Left: What Labor Should Stand For (New South Books, 2010).

    Soutphommasane’s first book Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives was published in 2009. Loosely based on research undertaken toward his doctoral thesis, the book argues that people with progressive politics must re-engage with ideas of patriotism and national identity, which Soutphommasane claims were surrendered to the right during the Prime Ministership of John Howard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Soutphommasane

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    I might add a few words to the title of one of his book: "Don't go back to where you come from...and trash the place that received you"
    , @Anonymous

    Thinethavone ‘Tim’ Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]
     
    Most likely, he is of 100% Chinese ancestry from an upper middle class family in Laos who benefited from French colonization of Indochina. "Lao" is merely a geographical term.
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  85. NYT sends a reporter to Australia to cover racism. I read his opening article about Australia and he said that this is his beat, race in Australia. What a time to be alive.

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  86. SYDNEY, Australia — Australia prides itself on its fairness and multiculturalism. But wander through Sydney’s corporate towers or Canberra’s halls of Parliament, and you’ll notice that Australia’s power structure is overwhelmingly white, nowhere near as diverse as the country at large.

    It’s almost like up until the mid-90s Australia was over 95% white or something and in the age cohorts where the most power is amassed it still is.

    It’s amazing how age structure is ignored in all these articles. They do it too with the pay gap. Younger women (The ones truly effected by policy changes) earn more than men.

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  87. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    Your comment reminded me of:

    Jordan was famous in his day for his antiwar eugenics theory. He argued in 1902 that a big war would kill off the morally best, most self-sacrificial young men (the lieutenants who would lead the charges across No Man’s Land), while sparing the cunning who got themselves out of the draft with flat feet or assigned to a cushy job behind the lines.

    in that the mass dysgenic deaths of the 20th C would also kill off the most energetic, positive in-group White proponents leaving also the most moribund desultory types to expound upon their kind.

    I used to write in that generalised “western man” style too, it’s kind of addictive. One of the many foibles of an arts degree.

    But, also on that topic, and another one for the iSteve club, has anyone come up with an HBD economy?

    My ongoing premise being that race is real and everyone knows it, however, when the penny drops or the curtains are pulled aside to reveal the truth that we were duped, has anyone thought through how an HBD economy would work?

    I think this is the cause of greatest resistance to admitting the truth of HBD. Fear that oneself and one’s children will be crushed under the blind reality of genetics. If I were an HBD proponent I would be addressing how HBD could and should be employed to the betterment of “mankind”.

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  88. @The_Dancing_Judge
    Off Topic:

    Does anyone know the standard deviation between embryos for a polygenic trait?

    Ie, im in an argument with a buddy over whether screening embryos for IQ potential will be a game changer, and both of us realized we dont know how much of a variance there is between the "potential iq" of different embryos from one set of parent. Are we looking at 1 point of IQ difference, or 10?

    I cant seem to find a study on this...

    Thanks,

    Table 1. How the maximum amount of IQ gain (assuming a Gaussian distribution of predicted IQs among the embryos with a standard deviation of 7.5 points) might depend on the number of embryos used in selection

    Selection| IQ points gained
    1 in 2| 4.2
    1 in 10| 11.5
    1 in 100| 18.8
    1 in 1000| 24.3
    5 generations of 1-in-10| < 65 [b/c diminishing returns]
    10 generations of 1-in-10| < 130 [b/c diminishing returns]

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  89. Were there previous North American, or European, versions of this article?

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  90. @bartok

    99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European
     
    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas? We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.

    The Continental
    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-continental/2869208?snl=1

    ‘Anglo-Celtic’ is essentially the ethnicity we mean when we say Australian. Due to the relatively high Irish presence in the early days of colonisation and high rates of intermarriage particularly after religion began to seriously decline. It’s a way to contrast them from the English, the Anglo-Saxon, particularly after Australian developed a very strong sense of national identity.

    Due to subsequent immigration being almost entirely from the British Isles and New Zealand (And later Germany) the presence of European immigrants in large numbers became remarkable and the large numbers of Italian, Greek and Polish who possessed very different cultural attitudes and high ethnocentrism, it’s a term that has survived in meaning due to non-white immigration being a relatively recent phenomena in large scale. One wonders when it’s going to stop since they’re going to just a few cities.

    Here’s a report from 2011, already those with pattern-recognition can see the problem would perhaps not exist but for all the recent immigrants from the subcontinent.

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  91. @Steve Sailer
    Whites aren't powerless in Cape Town.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Cape Town doesn't have enough water during a drought for the same reason Santa Barbara often runs out of water during droughts: the locals would rather take that risk in order to use water limitations as an excuse for keeping out the riffraff.

    Day Zero has apparently been averted this year. (A part of me likes to think they used the most negative estimate to generate the crisis get people to conserve water and thinking about it so they can get the money to stop it when it’s actually going to come)

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  92. @Stephen Paul Foster
    "Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner"

    Race discrimination commissioner -- is that his actual title? Soon to follow: "Commissioner of anti-Sexism", "Department of Homophobia Eradication".

    Britain introduced one in the 70s after the second generation from Windrush came of age and then the other former dominions did too when the vibrancy got to sufficient levels.

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  93. @J.Ross
    ... what is this replying to? Why should the majority of South Africans control anything? How are two guys named Patel a majority of a country of millions?

    Gupta, not Patel.

    Same story since 1871, only the names of the looters change.

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  94. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    “The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing.”

    How about

    “The Western man is being inoculated with a deep sense of passive self-loathing, and those who reject this inoculation are demonised and/or marginalised.”

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  95. Its good to see that our international media has moved from looking at the individual competence of leaders to looking at what ancestral populations they have descended from. This means if you are a corrupt and incompetent white official, you only have to worry about the threat of not being “diverse enough”, and if you are a corrupt and incompetent non-white official (and we know this is arbitrary), you are safe. Its a great time to be a Soviet.

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  96. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    The Australian government, in particular, looks much as it did in the 1960s, before the end of the White Australia policy, which restricted nonwhite immigration.
     
    Curious timing, that. I wonder who might have been lobbying for this change?

    Restricting immigration to the majority ethnic group is common around the world. Japan restricts to ethnic Japanese, China restricts to ethnic Han, Israel restricts to ethnic Jews…shall I go on?

    But one one calls any of those countries “racist.” Only White countries that wish to remain White are “racist.”

    Weird.

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  97. Anonymous[817] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm mightily surprised that the 'non-European origin' proportion of the Australian population is as high as 24%.

    From virtually zero to 24% in under 50 years. The implication is obvious, yet the perception of Australia being a 'hyper' white country - amongst those whom have never visited Australia - has a very strong persistence.

    Growth rates turning Australia from around 1% non European to around 24% non European in 50 years imply an annual rate of growth of about 10%, or thereabouts, in the non European descended population. This in turn implies a non European majority Australia in under ten years’ time. Thus, in the near future, the non European part of the Australian population can, fully legitimately and democratically vote in any changes they wish to the established Australian civic settlement.
    - all this with the obvious full consent and agreement of the white Australians of the previous five decades who knew, or at the very least, should have known of this outcome of the policies they *voluntarily choose* to implement.

    The moral is whatever whites do, no matter wherever in the world they live, it’s never ever enough for the anti-white forces.

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  98. @Thirdeye
    Among the people in my neighborhood, it's not the Hmong (Laotian) who have a history of causing problems. It's a mixed bag with the Mexicans, just as it is with the Euro-Americans. But the worst group of all is the American Indians.

    Is this Minneapolis you are talking about?

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  99. @Anonymous
    I'm mightily surprised that the 'non-European origin' proportion of the Australian population is as high as 24%.

    From virtually zero to 24% in under 50 years. The implication is obvious, yet the perception of Australia being a 'hyper' white country - amongst those whom have never visited Australia - has a very strong persistence.

    “Today, Australians of British and other European ancestries are the dominant majority in Australia, estimated at 85–92% of the total population.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Australians

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  100. @Anon
    Elites/Masses

    Officers suffered a higher casualty rate in both World Wars. These represented a higher share of the more virile members of the aristocracy in Europe. Feminism filled the gap, this might also explain why deviants rose in the clergy. Many crowned heads were removed at the end of both wars as well.

    The carnage experienced by the Japanese was even greater, and produced a society completely at odds with the 1867-1931 society. While the Japanese aren't subjected to the same amount of dispossession propaganda, they are still spiritually deracinated and obsessively consumerist.

    The previous gernations that began the slide into hedonism and decadence didn't need propoganda to adopt suicidal liberal tendencies. They genuniely believed they had it coming, at least the Japanese elites only committed seppuku on themselves.

    We've been here before, Epicurus had similar ideas, born out of the apparently senseless violence of the Macedonian conquests.

    ---

    Yes, men are less nuts than women in most instances. But will men simply putting their foot down lead to sanity with women? Or will it lead to the women accelerating their exogamy with the invaders?

    The War affecting genetics doesn’t work at all.

    It’s very hard to move the needle on selection with a one generation event that isn’t absolutely catastrophic. And remember, even if the “best and bravest” men preferentially died, their sisters–and in some cases even their young sons and daughters!–are still around. And of course the same genes they had are floating all over their nation’s gene pool.

    Then you have the nations problem. Poland, the Soviet Union and Germany took really substantial population hits. But the Soviet Union sure looked “manly” enough to fight the Cold War, and Russia looks like one of the least cucked states today. Poland (along with maybe Hungary) looks like about the least cucked Western-Christian nation. Germany does seem pretty cucked. But it bounced back to the Wirtschaftswunder and the people still seem to perform like Germans. The cucked problem seems to be entirely the continuous war guilt “bad German!” propaganda they get from their baby bottle on through life, not the actual War.

    Then on the flip side a bunch of nations’ losses were trivial. America’s 400,000 wouldn’t move pop-gen at all. Most all of our best and bravest came home. (I grew up with these dads in the neighborhood. Guys who hit the beaches, or drove tanks. One dad in my scout troop flew a dive bomber at Midway and helped sink a Japanese carrier.) And America is clearly cuck propaganda central. We pitch “diversity”–i.e. suicide–like a used car dealer.

    Sweden sat the War out and is cuck central. The Swedes have committed suicide-by-diversity.

    Ok this was overly wordy, but i hope it suffices. The War changing pop-gen has nothing to do with it. No commenter need float that bogus theory again.

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    https://voxeu.org/article/demographic-consequence-first-world-war
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  101. @Lurker
    Time to reinstate the White Australia policy.

    Time to reinstate the White Australia policy.

    Well if it keeps out spiteful, racist and ultimately terrific bores like Tim Soutphommasane then go for it.

    This creep is a great argument against family reunification and diversity scholarships.

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  102. @newrouter
    "In a Proudly Diverse Australia, White People Still Run Almost Everything"

    compare and contrast:

    "In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything"

    The new your times thats a calvinist run paper isnt it, moldberg is so smart what would we do without the jews looking out for our interests.

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  103. “That’s inspirational really. To hear a Laotian take such an ecumenical view of Australian nationalism. I almost get verklempt just reflecting on it. It’s a perspective that humbles us Chinese by comparison.”

    White Privilege is that moral turpitude that occurs when men attempt to secure the blessings of liberty for themselves and their posterity. And one of its most egregious elements may also be its least remarked upon. That is the privilege of enjoying modernity’s most expansive plural pronouns.

    Consider the modest “we.” No other people have this term deployed by others so often on their behalf. Whether yellow, black, brown, or AIPAC, pages blossom with those eager to advise on what we should do in our countries. It’s all very gratifying. Though sometimes the air fills with more WEs than a French porn shoot. And that’s what the royal we will discuss tonight.

    I was reading a piece recently by a man discussing the immense affection we Australians have for multiculturalism. The author’s name is Thinethavone Soutphommasane. He is a member of the Australian Multicultural Council and is presently serving as Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner at the Australian Human Rights Commission. Mr. Soutphommasane was born in France to Laotian boat parents who were subsequently resettled Down Under via reunification program. It’s curious how infrequently these reunions occur in native homelands, though the point I am trying to make is that when Thinethavone uses “we” in regard to Australians, you may be assured his bonafides are in perfect order.

    Whether you’re Bruce, Tran or Mohammed, you can be an Australian if you’re prepared to be part of our democratic society. [That’s convenient for Tran and Mohammed. Less so for Bruce.]. Now isn’t the time to be talking down our multicultural success [Success for whom is the question]

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  104. @newrouter
    "In a Proudly Diverse Australia, White People Still Run Almost Everything"

    compare and contrast:

    "In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything"

    “In a Proudly Diverse Israel, Jews Still Run Almost Everything”

    “Proudly diverse” has never been Israel’s schtick (a little Jewish lingo there). ;)

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  105. Wouldn’t you expect the majority to always win seats in a democracy? Isn’t that how democracy works?

    75% of the people vote for a candidate, that candidate wins 100% of the time. Not 75% of the time.

    Could probably solve the problem but drawing up majority-minority districts and assigning seats that way. Or however their system works. But I thought we were supposed to all be integrated? Not create separate-but-equal ethno-districts…

    I really can’t tell nowadays. Are both sides super racist? Righties embarrass themselves trying to statsplain minority problems. Lefties make a big show of witch-hunting for the Elusive Bigot on twitter, and then live as far away from minority problems as possible.

    Anyone who owns a smartphone while children in Africa starve is a psychopath. Can we all just admit that we don’t care that much about other peoples’ problems?

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  106. What we have as an official ideology is the ideology of the rapist and thief:

    Your home and your business, your country club and university, your neighborhood and nation–all must be open and penetrable by me.

    Walls and barriers and borders are illegitimate.

    Anywhere you go–i will follow. You can not say “no”. I must be allowed in.
    Everything you have belongs to me. Everything you build belongs to me. You, belong to me.

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  107. When China implodes, Australia goes White again. Australia must get a nuclear deterrent to keep the Chinese at bay.

    Tweet from 2015:

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  108. @bartok

    99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European
     
    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas? We should try that here, a lot of our Jews would become Continentals if not Eurasians. Weird, wild stuff.

    The Continental
    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-continental/2869208?snl=1

    99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European

    What, is there a distinction between the Continent and the British Isles in modern-day Aussie racial quotas?

    I imagine that the non-British Isles European/whites (like descendants of Greeks or Italians) are set aside because they’re slightly more “vibrant” than the non-whites, but still white so they don’t count for true diversity purposes. Sort of like the WASP/Ethnic whites divide in the U.S. a hundred years ago or so.

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  109. Threads like this one only make me hope that I’ve shuffled off this mortal coil before the last competent white guy is flying my plane or performing my surgery.

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  110. @Anonymous
    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.

    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

    [No example supplied]

    Do they write those articles for free? If not who pays them? If they were to write an article not written like that, would they stop being paid by the people who pay them? Who provides the money to have these articles viewed by millions?

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  111. “Although those who have non-European and Indigenous backgrounds make up an estimated 24 percent of the Australian population…”

    Whose estimate is that?

    I make it 3.3% Aboriginal (many of whom aren’t really Aboriginal at all), plus… alright, I admit defeat in trying to figure out how many people in Australia have a “non-European” background. I’m terrible with numbers, and the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t seem to make it too easy to find this particular number, even though there was a census in 2016 that asked people’s “ancestry.” Thing is, people can have more than one ancestry listed, so if you add up all the different ancestries, you get more than 100%.

    Perhaps someone better at this sort of thing can figure it out, but at any rate, Tim Sousaphone’s numbers seem awfully high.

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  112. @istevefan

    “Although those who have non-European and Indigenous backgrounds make up an estimated 24 percent of the Australian population, such backgrounds account for only 5 percent of senior leaders,” the report states. “Put another way, about 95 percent of senior leaders in Australia have an Anglo-Celtic or European background.”
     
    Countries like Australia have gone from almost exclusively white to being watered down in a blink of the eye. It takes years or even generations for most newcomers to become part of a new country. Many are not even citizens, and perhaps a significant number aren't even legal. Yet idiots think that once they arrive they should immediately make up the same percentage of every bureaucracy, institution, etc., as they do in the general population.

    Usually when you join a group or arrive at a new school, you are not immediately singled out for being a member of the board or being on the student council. There is always a lag in when newcomers arrive and when they eventually join the mainstream. But it seems nobody knows that any more.

    In a similar vein I've argued with people over the fact that more nonwhites have now immigrated to the USA than Europeans. They tell me I am wrong because Europeans are still the majority. I then have to explain to them that the bulk of the nonwhites arrived post 1965, while a sizable number of whites have been here for hundreds of years having kids, grandkids, etc., so it makes perfect sense that they have built up higher numbers.

    In a similar vein I’ve argued with people over the fact that more nonwhites have now immigrated to the USA than Europeans.

    That is a good sound bite. Do you have a good reference breaking that down?

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    I backed into that number from published data. First, I took this quote from Patrick Buchanan in his book State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America. On page 242-243 he quotes John F. Kennedy's book on immigration written in 1958, in which JFK cited that America had taken in 42 million immigrants from Jamestown (1608) until 1958, a period of 350 years. The overwhelming majority were from Europe. There were approximately 700K combined Chinese and Japanese. But other than that they were pretty much European. Slaves were not counted as immigrants.

    You can see Buchanan's book online here. If the page in my link doesn't go to the quote, just keep toggling until you get to pages 242-243 of his book. This will provide a table that breaks down the major source nations as of 1958.

    Second, it is widely accepted that we have had approximately 50 million immigrants that have arrived since the 1965 immigration act. And the overwhelming number of these people since 1965 have been non-Europeans. And each year we are getting 1 to 2 million more.

    Keep in mind when Europeans came in numbers there was no family unification or chain migration rules. Post 1965 immigrants benefit from chain migration and that has accelerated their numbers.

    If you guestimate that 90 percent of post 1965 immigrants are non-European, than non-Europeans have accounted for more immigrants to this country than Europeans. If I am off in my guestimates, I will soon be right given the annual take of 1-2 million mostly non-Europeans per year that continues unabated.

    The only reason Europeans continue to make up 62 percent of the population is because most have been here for over a hundred years and some have been here for four hundred. Their descendants account for their numbers.

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  113. @The_Dancing_Judge
    Off Topic:

    Does anyone know the standard deviation between embryos for a polygenic trait?

    Ie, im in an argument with a buddy over whether screening embryos for IQ potential will be a game changer, and both of us realized we dont know how much of a variance there is between the "potential iq" of different embryos from one set of parent. Are we looking at 1 point of IQ difference, or 10?

    I cant seem to find a study on this...

    Thanks,

    Does anyone know the standard deviation between embryos for a polygenic trait?

    I would be interested in such a study as well. Gwern has a take on this (not sure if this is a quote of someone else or not) which seems reasonable: https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection

    Shulman & Bostrom’s upper bound works as follows:

    Standard practice today involves the creation of fewer than ten embryos. Selection among greater numbers than that would require multiple IVF cycles, which is expensive and burdensome. Therefore 1-in-10 selection may represent an upper limit of what would currently be practically feasible …The standard deviation of IQ in the population is about 15. Davies et al. (2011) estimates that common additive variation can account for half of variance in adult fluid intelligence in its sample. Siblings share half their genetic material on average (ignoring the known assortative mating for intelligence, which will reduce the visible variance among embryos). Thus, in a crude estimate, variance is cut by 75 per cent and standard deviation by 50 per cent. Adjustments for assortative mating, deviation from the Gaussian distribution, and other factors would adjust this estimate, but not drastically. These figures were generated by simulating 10 million couples producing the listed number of embryos and selecting the one with the highest predicted IQ based on the additive variation.

    Table 1. How the maximum amount of IQ gain (assuming a Gaussian distribution of predicted IQs among the embryos with a standard deviation of 7.5 points) might depend on the number of embryos used in selection:

    Selection Average IQ gain
    1 in 2 4.2
    1 in 10 11.5
    1 in 100 18.8
    1 in 1000 24.3

    TLDR: more like 10 points.

    P.S. If you and your buddy are interested in this topic https://www.amazon.com/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0198739834 is worth a look as is a search on Steve Hsu’s blog for PGD: https://www.google.com/search?q=PGD+site%3Ainfoproc.blogspot.com

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  114. @anony-mouse
    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    And yet when the South African government tries to move control of everything to its majority people here object.

    Hopefully the bolding makes things clear.

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  115. @Mishra
    Tiny's Heroes

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5598947/Outrage-two-six-men-gang-raped-13-year-old-girl-just-PROBATION.html

    US MSM? [sfx: crickets]

    Not quite crickets: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/09/outrage-after-2-men-sentenced-to-probation-for-gang-rape-13-year-old.html
    Even has photos of all of them.

    This was strange though:

    Jacolby Williams’ trial was scheduled for March 5; it’s unclear what transpired.

    Especially given this: http://coloradosprings.com/2-men-who-raped-colorado-springs-13-year-old-get-probation-despite-grandfather-begging-to-make-them-pay/article/1623748

    The attack occurred after the girl met with Jacolby Williams at the Citadel Mall and ended up at his apartment, where some of the males played videogames before the girl was lured into a bedroom and assaulted in the dark, according to her account.

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    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." – Philip K. Dick
     
    I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    Steve has written about this phenomenon a lot with regard to rapes at colleges, and I commented upon it once earlier with regard to the recent allegations against Sylvester Stallone.
    , @Mishra
    Yes, Fox News will sometimes carry crime stories, even "inconvenient" ones like this.
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  116. @LKM
    Well in that case he'd better advocate for a 30-year moratorium on immigration to Australia. Otherwise there won't be a Down Under for the next wave of Indians and Chinese to assimilate into.

    One Polish immigrant to Australia isn't so enamored with Dr. Tim's take on things:

    Yassmin and Tim, from migrant to migrant, please stop whinging

    An interesting tidbit from this column is that Dr. Tim makes 340 000 AUD per year in his capacity as Australia's Race Discrimination Commissioner, an appointment which is set to expire this year. Methinks he wants a second term.

    Great article from the Spectator. Thanks!

    It does make one wonder how people like that reconcile their success with all of that horrific racism.

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  117. @res

    In a similar vein I’ve argued with people over the fact that more nonwhites have now immigrated to the USA than Europeans.
     
    That is a good sound bite. Do you have a good reference breaking that down?

    I backed into that number from published data. First, I took this quote from Patrick Buchanan in his book State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America. On page 242-243 he quotes John F. Kennedy’s book on immigration written in 1958, in which JFK cited that America had taken in 42 million immigrants from Jamestown (1608) until 1958, a period of 350 years. The overwhelming majority were from Europe. There were approximately 700K combined Chinese and Japanese. But other than that they were pretty much European. Slaves were not counted as immigrants.

    You can see Buchanan’s book online here. If the page in my link doesn’t go to the quote, just keep toggling until you get to pages 242-243 of his book. This will provide a table that breaks down the major source nations as of 1958.

    Second, it is widely accepted that we have had approximately 50 million immigrants that have arrived since the 1965 immigration act. And the overwhelming number of these people since 1965 have been non-Europeans. And each year we are getting 1 to 2 million more.

    Keep in mind when Europeans came in numbers there was no family unification or chain migration rules. Post 1965 immigrants benefit from chain migration and that has accelerated their numbers.

    If you guestimate that 90 percent of post 1965 immigrants are non-European, than non-Europeans have accounted for more immigrants to this country than Europeans. If I am off in my guestimates, I will soon be right given the annual take of 1-2 million mostly non-Europeans per year that continues unabated.

    The only reason Europeans continue to make up 62 percent of the population is because most have been here for over a hundred years and some have been here for four hundred. Their descendants account for their numbers.

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    @res,

    PS. Look at that chart in the Buchanan book and note that as of 1958, Germany and Italy were the two largest source nations of immigrants. At that time they had sent a combined total of 11.8 million since 1608. My guess is that in the last 60 years that number has not gone up by much. Perhaps it is 12 to 13 million at tops.

    Now compare that to the number of "living" Mexicans in the USA today. Pew estimates there are 11 million people living in the USA today who were born in Mexico. That means they have come here in the past 30 years or less, outside of a few exceptions of long-lived ones who might have come 50 to 60 years ago.

    So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That's unreal.

    , @res
    Thanks for your response! The link worked perfectly.

    The spreadsheet ("Get Data") at https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/largest-immigrant-groups-over-time
    has per country immigrant numbers from 1960 through 2000 (census) and 2006 to 2016 (ACS).

    The brain drain data at http://www.iab.de/en/daten/iab-brain-drain-data.aspx
    has a spreadsheet which lists US (actually all OECD countries!) immigrants by sex, country and skill levels from 1980-2010 in 5 year intervals. To steal a well known line, Mexico is not sending their best.

    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.

    It would be good to have a rigorous analysis of immigration flows by country over the history of the US. The big problem I see is much of the data (e.g. census) is a stock variable while what we really want is the flow variable of immigrant arrival.
    (for anyone who does not know what I mean by stock and flow variables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_and_flow )

    Although not broken down by country, these tables provide some useful perspective on the change in immigration numbers over time:
    Table 1. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status: Fiscal Years 1820 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table1
    Table 20. Petitions For Naturalization Filed, Persons Naturalized, And Petitions For Naturalization Denied: Fiscal Years 1907 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table20
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  118. @istevefan
    I backed into that number from published data. First, I took this quote from Patrick Buchanan in his book State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America. On page 242-243 he quotes John F. Kennedy's book on immigration written in 1958, in which JFK cited that America had taken in 42 million immigrants from Jamestown (1608) until 1958, a period of 350 years. The overwhelming majority were from Europe. There were approximately 700K combined Chinese and Japanese. But other than that they were pretty much European. Slaves were not counted as immigrants.

    You can see Buchanan's book online here. If the page in my link doesn't go to the quote, just keep toggling until you get to pages 242-243 of his book. This will provide a table that breaks down the major source nations as of 1958.

    Second, it is widely accepted that we have had approximately 50 million immigrants that have arrived since the 1965 immigration act. And the overwhelming number of these people since 1965 have been non-Europeans. And each year we are getting 1 to 2 million more.

    Keep in mind when Europeans came in numbers there was no family unification or chain migration rules. Post 1965 immigrants benefit from chain migration and that has accelerated their numbers.

    If you guestimate that 90 percent of post 1965 immigrants are non-European, than non-Europeans have accounted for more immigrants to this country than Europeans. If I am off in my guestimates, I will soon be right given the annual take of 1-2 million mostly non-Europeans per year that continues unabated.

    The only reason Europeans continue to make up 62 percent of the population is because most have been here for over a hundred years and some have been here for four hundred. Their descendants account for their numbers.

    ,

    PS. Look at that chart in the Buchanan book and note that as of 1958, Germany and Italy were the two largest source nations of immigrants. At that time they had sent a combined total of 11.8 million since 1608. My guess is that in the last 60 years that number has not gone up by much. Perhaps it is 12 to 13 million at tops.

    Now compare that to the number of “living” Mexicans in the USA today. Pew estimates there are 11 million people living in the USA today who were born in Mexico. That means they have come here in the past 30 years or less, outside of a few exceptions of long-lived ones who might have come 50 to 60 years ago.

    So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That’s unreal.

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    "So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That’s unreal."

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together--despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades--to prove his "point". Note that the Italians were not even a blip on the immigration radar screen from 1607 to the late 1800's. At least Germans have a more NOTICEABLE track record of immigration, as there numbers were decidedly larger.

    But Benjamin Franklin, that great American patriot, was deathly concerned about German immigrants overrunning America. He warned: "Those [Germans] who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties...In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious."
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  119. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    you are right, but in all honesty these two World Wars were Western Civilization’s quite successful suicide attempt. Not the first time this happened, the fall of the Roman empire, the French revolution, the 1960s. There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.

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    There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.
     
    The strength of western civilisation is its dynamism. That's also its fatal flaw.

    Every culture understands that stability is a good thing. Every culture except western culture that is. As soon as stability is achieved westerners want to start smashing things.

    Australia provides one of the finest examples. Fifty years ago we had what was arguably the best society on earth. Not the richest (although we were a very rich country) but if you look at the combination of prosperity, stability, security, low crime and incredibly low levels of violence and if you add to that a benign climate and zero external threats there really was no better place to live on the entire planet.

    And how did Australians react to all this? We decided it all had to change. Who wants to live in a wealthy, peaceful stable society? So we took a hammer to it and started smashing it. Because that's what white Europeans do.
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  120. @Anon
    The Western man is filled with a deep sense of passive self-loathing. Two world wars sapped the vitality of our people, and caused a loss of confidence in the Faith. The colonial empires, born as a humanitarian enterprise, were erased in two short decades. At the same time, we have received material prosperity, but in effect is the eating of our seed corn.

    The majority of our socities genuinely think that we don't deserve to continue, and achieving nebulous equality is worth more than demographic continuity. 30% of Hungary basically just voted for open borders in the face of the Megaphone being in Orban's hands. By comparison only 20% of the South African whites voted for the leftist party in 1989.

    you are right, but in all honesty these two World Wars were Western Civilization’s quite successful suicide attempt. Not the first time this happened, the fall of the Roman empire, the French revolution, the 1960s. There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.

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  121. @George
    Thinethavone 'Tim' Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]

    [Invade the world, Vietnam war, French Indo-China, recolonization after WWII]

    His family was resettled by the Family Reunion Program of the Australian Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs to Sydney's south-western suburbs in 1985,[5] where he was raised. He was educated at Hurlstone Agricultural High School.[5]

    [Invade the world leads to invite the world, I wonder if they read Camp of the Saints and decided it was time to leave France.]

    Soutphommasane is the author of three books: The Virtuous Citizen: Patriotism in a Multicultural Society (Cambridge University Press, 2012), Don't Go Back To Where You Came From: Why Multiculturalism Works (New South Books, 2012) which in 2013 won the NSW Premier's Literary Award in the 'Community Relations Commission Award' section,[8] and Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives (Cambridge University Press, 2009).

    He was also co-editor (with Nick Dyrenfurth) of All That's Left: What Labor Should Stand For (New South Books, 2010).

    Soutphommasane's first book Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives was published in 2009. Loosely based on research undertaken toward his doctoral thesis, the book argues that people with progressive politics must re-engage with ideas of patriotism and national identity, which Soutphommasane claims were surrendered to the right during the Prime Ministership of John Howard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Soutphommasane

    I might add a few words to the title of one of his book: “Don’t go back to where you come from…and trash the place that received you”

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  122. Remind me, please: How many white people are in the Diet of Japan, again? The National People’s Congress of China? The Parliament of South Africa? Viet Nam’s National Congress? The Parliament of India? Of Zimbabwe? I reckon Amerindian tribal leadership is woefully lacking diversity, especially from white people. Why, even Negroes and Orientals can’t seem to catch a break being admitted to the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, never mind about positions in its leadership. What’s up with that? It’s downright inhumane, it’s so racist! How many Sami receive scholarships from the United Negro College Fund, anyway? Are we doing enough to be sure Malibu has adequate residents born in Papua New Guinea? If not, why not? Surely Rob Reiner is willing to house a few? I could not agree more with this piece: diversity must be increased by any means necessary.

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  123. @Anonymous
    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition. In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and 'normal', but he is who he is -- and he is definitely the guy who was elected. He never pulled the wool over anyone's eyes. Trump has been Trump for decades and he certainly was Trump during the campaign.

    It's really hypocritical when you look at people like JFK/MLK who are held up as almost religious figures by the left.

    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?

    My thought too. What the heck is wrong with such a payout? Adultery is–no longer–illegal. So it’s not paying to cover up illegal activity. Just a mutually agreed deal of silence. Lawsuit settlements seem to often have exactly these terms. Actually seems to me Trump has a legal case against Daniels for taking the money then reneging on the contract.

    What actually strikes me as illegal is threatening people, what the Clintons did–just sort of skirting the edges of the law–that these bimbos should shut up if they know what’s good for them.

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition.

    You don’t even have to be Trump. What’s the point of a “beauty contest” without beauty? If women think it’s degrading … then don’t enter a contest to be judged on your looks. The plain fact is women are wired up for such “look at me” display and a lot of women seem to really like it. (Actually a for a good number of young women it seems to be all they care about–see Facebook.)

    In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and ‘normal’,

    Agreed. However, these are times of crisis. Even before normal upstanding family man, i’d take simply “articulate”. I’m perfect fine with Trump being a hound, if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case. The nationalist case is orders of magnitude more coherent and persuasive than globalist gobbledygook and even “extreme” positions like the “muslim ban” easily win in popular opinion. But it needs to be clearly articulated.

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    "I’m perfect fine with Trump being a hound..."

    Which is basically admitting, just like the Bill Clinton supporters, that you lack scruples. Congratulations on your accomplishment.

    "...if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case."

    Except Trump is not a white nationalist, nor even is a die-hard believer of the cause.

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  124. @res
    Not quite crickets: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/09/outrage-after-2-men-sentenced-to-probation-for-gang-rape-13-year-old.html
    Even has photos of all of them.

    This was strange though:

    Jacolby Williams' trial was scheduled for March 5; it's unclear what transpired.
     
    Especially given this: http://coloradosprings.com/2-men-who-raped-colorado-springs-13-year-old-get-probation-despite-grandfather-begging-to-make-them-pay/article/1623748

    The attack occurred after the girl met with Jacolby Williams at the Citadel Mall and ended up at his apartment, where some of the males played videogames before the girl was lured into a bedroom and assaulted in the dark, according to her account.

     

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” – Philip K. Dick

    I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    Steve has written about this phenomenon a lot with regard to rapes at colleges, and I commented upon it once earlier with regard to the recent allegations against Sylvester Stallone.

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    "I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes..."

    What you are doing here is taking a horrific situation and trying to score cheap Coalition of the Fringe points. Everyday in America, young white girls hang out with young black men, and vice versa, and nothing remotely like this savage event occurs.

    "I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy."

    All you are doing here is making something up. Why? Only God knows.
    , @dfordoom

    the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.
     
    This is where feminism leads. Inevitably.
    , @Autochthon

    Everyday in America, young white girls hang out with young black men, and vice versa, and nothing remotely like this savage event occurs.
     
    Sure; I often used to send my thirteen-year-old nieces off to spend time alone in an apartment with six men, five of them between the ages of eighteen and twenty, to "play video games," precisely because, as you rightly state, that kind of thing is done all the time – especially when the female is European and the males Negroes, what with the statistics about interracial rapes and sexual assaults being what they are! – with no negative ramifications whatsoever. I have a son, but hopefully one day I will also have a daughter, so I can send her into such unremarkable situations as well, confident "nothing remotely like this savage event" will occur. Why, I'm sure Barack Obama often sent his own daughters off into exactly these kinds of situations without a care in the world, because otherwise he'd be a nasty racist. And you, sir: surely you've adolescent daughters who regularly spend time alone in apartments "playing video games" (as the crazy kids call it nowadays!) with groups of grown men unrelated to them, right?
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  125. @res
    Not quite crickets: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/09/outrage-after-2-men-sentenced-to-probation-for-gang-rape-13-year-old.html
    Even has photos of all of them.

    This was strange though:

    Jacolby Williams' trial was scheduled for March 5; it's unclear what transpired.
     
    Especially given this: http://coloradosprings.com/2-men-who-raped-colorado-springs-13-year-old-get-probation-despite-grandfather-begging-to-make-them-pay/article/1623748

    The attack occurred after the girl met with Jacolby Williams at the Citadel Mall and ended up at his apartment, where some of the males played videogames before the girl was lured into a bedroom and assaulted in the dark, according to her account.

     

    Yes, Fox News will sometimes carry crime stories, even “inconvenient” ones like this.

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  126. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @George
    Thinethavone 'Tim' Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]

    [Invade the world, Vietnam war, French Indo-China, recolonization after WWII]

    His family was resettled by the Family Reunion Program of the Australian Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs to Sydney's south-western suburbs in 1985,[5] where he was raised. He was educated at Hurlstone Agricultural High School.[5]

    [Invade the world leads to invite the world, I wonder if they read Camp of the Saints and decided it was time to leave France.]

    Soutphommasane is the author of three books: The Virtuous Citizen: Patriotism in a Multicultural Society (Cambridge University Press, 2012), Don't Go Back To Where You Came From: Why Multiculturalism Works (New South Books, 2012) which in 2013 won the NSW Premier's Literary Award in the 'Community Relations Commission Award' section,[8] and Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives (Cambridge University Press, 2009).

    He was also co-editor (with Nick Dyrenfurth) of All That's Left: What Labor Should Stand For (New South Books, 2010).

    Soutphommasane's first book Reclaiming Patriotism: Nation-Building for Australian Progressives was published in 2009. Loosely based on research undertaken toward his doctoral thesis, the book argues that people with progressive politics must re-engage with ideas of patriotism and national identity, which Soutphommasane claims were surrendered to the right during the Prime Ministership of John Howard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Soutphommasane

    Thinethavone ‘Tim’ Soutphommasane[4] was born in Montpellier, France in 1982 to Chinese and Lao parents who had fled Laos as refugees in 1975.[2]

    Most likely, he is of 100% Chinese ancestry from an upper middle class family in Laos who benefited from French colonization of Indochina. “Lao” is merely a geographical term.

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  127. @jjbees
    Off-topic:
    The new MCAT now has explicitly politicized questions with "correct" answers. Example: "...the wage gap between men and women is the result of bigotry, sexism, racism, or biological differences (no other options are provided, and the "correct" answer is sexism)."

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/devorah-goldman/the-politicization-of-the-mcat

    FWIW, I’m noticing this sort of thing in every area of modern life. It’s a major way in which new “facts” are created, and spread throughout society.

    It’s stuff that “everyone knows” is true, so it doesn’t need to be supported with anything like actual evidence.

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  128. @Anonymous
    There are plenty of people with Anglo and Jewish names to write articles like this.

    The first out of masochism. The second out of sadism.

    Nah, it’s basically careerism.

    Damien Cave is the bureau chief in Sydney, Australia. His previous foreign reporting includes postings in Mexico City, covering Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean, and in The Times’s Baghdad bureau from 2006 to 2007….

    Before coming to The Times, he was a staff writer and editor at Rolling Stone and Salon.com.

    …A graduate of Columbia’s Graduate School of Journalism and Boston College, Mr. Cave grew up in Worcester, Mass.

    https://www.nytimes.com/by/damien-cave

    I bolded the bit about him being embedded with the Axis of Democratic Dispersion in the Middle East.

    He’s trolling for “white supremacist” attention like a Tindr slut.

    Need I remind everyone that the NYT, WaPo, CNN, and the like engineer their clickbait to tweak conservatives more-highly-developed sense of disgust? That attention/those clicks are the only thing keeping these crap media alive at this point.

    Starve them.

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    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid "Damien" after the Omen movie came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren't very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.

    I'm guessing that the sort of child who would grow up to be a NYT journalist is not in the latter category of Damiens.
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  129. @istevefan
    I backed into that number from published data. First, I took this quote from Patrick Buchanan in his book State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America. On page 242-243 he quotes John F. Kennedy's book on immigration written in 1958, in which JFK cited that America had taken in 42 million immigrants from Jamestown (1608) until 1958, a period of 350 years. The overwhelming majority were from Europe. There were approximately 700K combined Chinese and Japanese. But other than that they were pretty much European. Slaves were not counted as immigrants.

    You can see Buchanan's book online here. If the page in my link doesn't go to the quote, just keep toggling until you get to pages 242-243 of his book. This will provide a table that breaks down the major source nations as of 1958.

    Second, it is widely accepted that we have had approximately 50 million immigrants that have arrived since the 1965 immigration act. And the overwhelming number of these people since 1965 have been non-Europeans. And each year we are getting 1 to 2 million more.

    Keep in mind when Europeans came in numbers there was no family unification or chain migration rules. Post 1965 immigrants benefit from chain migration and that has accelerated their numbers.

    If you guestimate that 90 percent of post 1965 immigrants are non-European, than non-Europeans have accounted for more immigrants to this country than Europeans. If I am off in my guestimates, I will soon be right given the annual take of 1-2 million mostly non-Europeans per year that continues unabated.

    The only reason Europeans continue to make up 62 percent of the population is because most have been here for over a hundred years and some have been here for four hundred. Their descendants account for their numbers.

    Thanks for your response! The link worked perfectly.

    The spreadsheet (“Get Data”) at https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/largest-immigrant-groups-over-time
    has per country immigrant numbers from 1960 through 2000 (census) and 2006 to 2016 (ACS).

    The brain drain data at http://www.iab.de/en/daten/iab-brain-drain-data.aspx
    has a spreadsheet which lists US (actually all OECD countries!) immigrants by sex, country and skill levels from 1980-2010 in 5 year intervals. To steal a well known line, Mexico is not sending their best.

    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.

    It would be good to have a rigorous analysis of immigration flows by country over the history of the US. The big problem I see is much of the data (e.g. census) is a stock variable while what we really want is the flow variable of immigrant arrival.
    (for anyone who does not know what I mean by stock and flow variables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_and_flow )

    Although not broken down by country, these tables provide some useful perspective on the change in immigration numbers over time:
    Table 1. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status: Fiscal Years 1820 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table1
    Table 20. Petitions For Naturalization Filed, Persons Naturalized, And Petitions For Naturalization Denied: Fiscal Years 1907 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table20

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    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.
     
    Maybe, but that pie chart seems to show the number of people alive at a particular moment in time who were born in another country. So in 1960 it shows that 990K people who were born in Germany were living in the USA. I don't think that means 900K immigrated here at that time. Rather they were alive and presumably could have come 10, 20, 30 years or more prior. So what you see is the echo of the previous immigration period.

    But whatever, so long as we continue with our current levels and composition of immigration, my conclusion is, or will be valid soon.
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  130. @res
    Thanks for your response! The link worked perfectly.

    The spreadsheet ("Get Data") at https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/largest-immigrant-groups-over-time
    has per country immigrant numbers from 1960 through 2000 (census) and 2006 to 2016 (ACS).

    The brain drain data at http://www.iab.de/en/daten/iab-brain-drain-data.aspx
    has a spreadsheet which lists US (actually all OECD countries!) immigrants by sex, country and skill levels from 1980-2010 in 5 year intervals. To steal a well known line, Mexico is not sending their best.

    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.

    It would be good to have a rigorous analysis of immigration flows by country over the history of the US. The big problem I see is much of the data (e.g. census) is a stock variable while what we really want is the flow variable of immigrant arrival.
    (for anyone who does not know what I mean by stock and flow variables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_and_flow )

    Although not broken down by country, these tables provide some useful perspective on the change in immigration numbers over time:
    Table 1. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status: Fiscal Years 1820 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table1
    Table 20. Petitions For Naturalization Filed, Persons Naturalized, And Petitions For Naturalization Denied: Fiscal Years 1907 To 2016 https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table20

    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.

    Maybe, but that pie chart seems to show the number of people alive at a particular moment in time who were born in another country. So in 1960 it shows that 990K people who were born in Germany were living in the USA. I don’t think that means 900K immigrated here at that time. Rather they were alive and presumably could have come 10, 20, 30 years or more prior. So what you see is the echo of the previous immigration period.

    But whatever, so long as we continue with our current levels and composition of immigration, my conclusion is, or will be valid soon.

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    I think your interpretation (born in X, currently living in US) is correct. The 2000 data is further away from 1950 (and 1930) so less affected by what you said and it shows 706,000 Germans and 473,338 Italians. That said, the way the numbers decline going forward from there means your point about an echo is definitely in play. The question is the relative magnitudes and timing.

    As I said, I basically agree with you, just trying to refine the numbers.
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  131. @Anonymous
    OT

    NYT just breathless:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/nyregion/supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-naturalization-ceremony.html

    Bedecked in a multicolored collar that reflected the diversity of the 201 new citizens before her, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over a naturalization ceremony on Tuesday at the New-York Historical Society, treating her rapt audience to a history lesson, one crackling with life and liberty.

    Justice Ginsburg told them that her own father arrived in this country at 13 with no fortune and no ability to speak English, and yet, she would soon be administering the oath of citizenship to them as a member of the highest court in the land.

    Across the packed rows of seats at the historical society’s Upper West Side theater sat people from 59 countries, with first names like Islam, Hussein, Kazi, Angie and Sunday, and with professions as diverse as pastors and pediatric cancer doctors. Two men from Guinea sat in the third row and learned they were both named Mamadou Alpha Diallo, both taxi drivers.

    “We are a nation made strong by people like you,” Justice Ginsburg said.

    ... After officiating at the ceremony, she went upstairs in the museum for a private talk with young fellows from the Immigrant Justice Corps, a program for immigration lawyers and practitioners founded in New York by Robert A. Katzmann, the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

    ... The Citizenship Project offers free classes to green card holders who are studying for the naturalization test, involving art, documents and artifacts at the museum. Since it began in July 2017, more than 600 people have completed the classes, said its president, Louise Mirrer, and the museum hopes to reach 1,000 by July.

    Ms. Mirrer was struck by the compact, powerful civics lesson Justice Ginsburg delivered. “She was careful to present this nation as one that is heavily into self-improvement,” Ms. Mirrer said.
     
    Louise Mirrer, author of Women, Jews and Muslims in the Texts of Reconquest Castile.

    Justice Ginsburg acknowledged that the United States was at its outset an imperfect union, and is still beset by poverty, low voting numbers and by the “struggle to achieve greater understanding of each other across racial, religious and socio-economic lines.”

    She urged its newest citizens to vote and to foster unity. “We have made huge progress, but the work of perfection is scarcely done,” she said.
     

    interesting that Ginsburg’s ilk think that national self-improvement includes to basically outlaw the Bill Of Rights.
    That pesky free speech, free press, etc.

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  132. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    The Australian government, in particular, looks much as it did in the 1960s, before the end of the White Australia policy, which restricted nonwhite immigration.
     
    Curious timing, that. I wonder who might have been lobbying for this change?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

    Hubert Opperman really began the poz in 1966. But there was a gradual weakening of the WAP.

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  133. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Olorin
    Nah, it's basically careerism.

    Damien Cave is the bureau chief in Sydney, Australia. His previous foreign reporting includes postings in Mexico City, covering Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean, and in The Times’s Baghdad bureau from 2006 to 2007....

    Before coming to The Times, he was a staff writer and editor at Rolling Stone and Salon.com.

    ...A graduate of Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism and Boston College, Mr. Cave grew up in Worcester, Mass.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/by/damien-cave

    I bolded the bit about him being embedded with the Axis of Democratic Dispersion in the Middle East.

    He's trolling for "white supremacist" attention like a Tindr slut.

    https://twitter.com/damiencave/status/983940031474647041?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Need I remind everyone that the NYT, WaPo, CNN, and the like engineer their clickbait to tweak conservatives more-highly-developed sense of disgust? That attention/those clicks are the only thing keeping these crap media alive at this point.

    Starve them.

    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid “Damien” after the Omen movie came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren’t very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.

    I’m guessing that the sort of child who would grow up to be a NYT journalist is not in the latter category of Damiens.

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    Damien Cave has got to be the most unintentionally creepy name in a while.
    , @PiltdownMan

    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid “Damien” after the movie "The Omen" came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren’t very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.
     
    It looks like the baby name "Damien" spiked in popularity in the years immediately after the movie The Omen was released. The link below has a handy graph (scroll down).

    https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-damien-462945.htm


    Year - Damien baby name rank
    1969 - 800
    1970 - 741
    1971 - 682
    1972 - 475
    1973 - 413
    1974 - 284
    1975 - 327
    1976 - 284 (The Omen released)
    1977 - 246
    1978 - 161
    1979 - 183
    1980 - 182
    1981 - 228
    1982 - 242
    1983 - 262

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  134. @Anonymous
    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid "Damien" after the Omen movie came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren't very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.

    I'm guessing that the sort of child who would grow up to be a NYT journalist is not in the latter category of Damiens.

    Damien Cave has got to be the most unintentionally creepy name in a while.

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  135. @Stephen Paul Foster
    "Tim Soutphommasane, Australia’s race discrimination commissioner"

    Race discrimination commissioner -- is that his actual title? Soon to follow: "Commissioner of anti-Sexism", "Department of Homophobia Eradication".

    A commissioner was also known as a commissar back in a time lost to history.

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  136. Well this is fine as long as people like this know that Israel is just for Jews and his kind will be shot trying to enter without a contract and birth control before he climbs the Yuuuge Wall.

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  137. @Autochthon

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." – Philip K. Dick
     
    I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    Steve has written about this phenomenon a lot with regard to rapes at colleges, and I commented upon it once earlier with regard to the recent allegations against Sylvester Stallone.

    “I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes…”

    What you are doing here is taking a horrific situation and trying to score cheap Coalition of the Fringe points. Everyday in America, young white girls hang out with young black men, and vice versa, and nothing remotely like this savage event occurs.

    “I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.”

    All you are doing here is making something up. Why? Only God knows.

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  138. @istevefan
    @res,

    PS. Look at that chart in the Buchanan book and note that as of 1958, Germany and Italy were the two largest source nations of immigrants. At that time they had sent a combined total of 11.8 million since 1608. My guess is that in the last 60 years that number has not gone up by much. Perhaps it is 12 to 13 million at tops.

    Now compare that to the number of "living" Mexicans in the USA today. Pew estimates there are 11 million people living in the USA today who were born in Mexico. That means they have come here in the past 30 years or less, outside of a few exceptions of long-lived ones who might have come 50 to 60 years ago.

    So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That's unreal.

    “So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That’s unreal.”

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together–despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades–to prove his “point”. Note that the Italians were not even a blip on the immigration radar screen from 1607 to the late 1800′s. At least Germans have a more NOTICEABLE track record of immigration, as there numbers were decidedly larger.

    But Benjamin Franklin, that great American patriot, was deathly concerned about German immigrants overrunning America. He warned: “Those [Germans] who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties…In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious.”

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    You left out his closing comments: "I say I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have their virtues. Their industry and frugality are exemplary. They are excellent husbandmen, and contribute greatly to the improvement of the country."

    His concern was about assimilation, and that the large influx of Germans and their dense concentration in few areas would hinder it.

    Much the same applies today to Mexicans. They may be decent people in general, but their numbers and settlement patterns make assimilation difficult.
    , @istevefan

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together–despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades–to prove his “point”.
     
    First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan.

    Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years.

    Third, you are correct that immigrant groups have peaks and there is not a steady, four-hundred year stream of consistent immigration from one source. But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that "they have had their share".

    Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK's book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history.

    Since we know there are at least 11 million Mexican-born people alive in the USA today, that means Mexico has sent close to a fourth the people in about 30 to 40 years as the entire continent of Europe has over 400 years. Heck, I am glad you brought up the "comparing a country to a continent" issue because I never compared Mexico to the entire European continent for an immigration count.

    I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time.

    Just for fun here is another crazy comparison that will surprise most on the issue of immigration. About 500K Greeks had come to America by 1958. Possibly another 100K have come since. Similar figures exist for Polish immigrants. So the combined amount of Poles and Greeks that have ever immigrated to the USA is around 1 to 1.2 million.

    Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came.
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  139. @AnotherDad

    Is it illegal to pay some bimbo money to be quiet about a one night romp?
     
    My thought too. What the heck is wrong with such a payout? Adultery is--no longer--illegal. So it's not paying to cover up illegal activity. Just a mutually agreed deal of silence. Lawsuit settlements seem to often have exactly these terms. Actually seems to me Trump has a legal case against Daniels for taking the money then reneging on the contract.

    What actually strikes me as illegal is threatening people, what the Clintons did--just sort of skirting the edges of the law--that these bimbos should shut up if they know what's good for them.

    We know what Trump is all about. He ran Miss Universe and brought back the swimsuit competition.
     
    You don't even have to be Trump. What's the point of a "beauty contest" without beauty? If women think it's degrading ... then don't enter a contest to be judged on your looks. The plain fact is women are wired up for such "look at me" display and a lot of women seem to really like it. (Actually a for a good number of young women it seems to be all they care about--see Facebook.)

    In a perfect world there would be a candidate who was more wholesome and ‘normal’,
     
    Agreed. However, these are times of crisis. Even before normal upstanding family man, i'd take simply "articulate". I'm perfect fine with Trump being a hound, if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case. The nationalist case is orders of magnitude more coherent and persuasive than globalist gobbledygook and even "extreme" positions like the "muslim ban" easily win in popular opinion. But it needs to be clearly articulated.

    “I’m perfect fine with Trump being a hound…”

    Which is basically admitting, just like the Bill Clinton supporters, that you lack scruples. Congratulations on your accomplishment.

    “…if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case.”

    Except Trump is not a white nationalist, nor even is a die-hard believer of the cause.

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    There's widespread cynicism about politicians and their motives nowadays. People no longer expect honesty and integrity from their leaders. If they stand up for the interests of their voters, that's enough. The bar is low.

    You also see this with Orban in Hungary, who is apparently a dishonest corrupt SOB, but because he stands up to Soros and the EU he's a national hero. (Nobody hates Merkel worse than Orban's domestic political opponents. He owes everything to her.)
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  140. @istevefan

    I think you are underestimating German and Italian immigrants over the last 60 years a bit (your later comment), but your basic point is sound.
     
    Maybe, but that pie chart seems to show the number of people alive at a particular moment in time who were born in another country. So in 1960 it shows that 990K people who were born in Germany were living in the USA. I don't think that means 900K immigrated here at that time. Rather they were alive and presumably could have come 10, 20, 30 years or more prior. So what you see is the echo of the previous immigration period.

    But whatever, so long as we continue with our current levels and composition of immigration, my conclusion is, or will be valid soon.

    I think your interpretation (born in X, currently living in US) is correct. The 2000 data is further away from 1950 (and 1930) so less affected by what you said and it shows 706,000 Germans and 473,338 Italians. That said, the way the numbers decline going forward from there means your point about an echo is definitely in play. The question is the relative magnitudes and timing.

    As I said, I basically agree with you, just trying to refine the numbers.

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    I like that pie chart link. I've never seen it before and yet it does confirm what Pew suggested, that there are around 11 million people alive in the USA today who were born in Mexico.

    It always blows me away that people don't think it odd that a New World nation has sent that many immigrants. Our whole story was that our ancestors left the bad, Old World with its rigid social systems and such to come to the New World for the chance to breathe free and rise to where your natural talents could take you. And you see this expressed in Canada, Australia, NZ and the USA.

    What better way to show that the English New World is superior to the Latin one by the millions of Latin American citizens who choose with their feet. Unfortunately the America that was is being gutted because of it.
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  141. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That’s unreal."

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together--despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades--to prove his "point". Note that the Italians were not even a blip on the immigration radar screen from 1607 to the late 1800's. At least Germans have a more NOTICEABLE track record of immigration, as there numbers were decidedly larger.

    But Benjamin Franklin, that great American patriot, was deathly concerned about German immigrants overrunning America. He warned: "Those [Germans] who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties...In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious."

    You left out his closing comments: “I say I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have their virtues. Their industry and frugality are exemplary. They are excellent husbandmen, and contribute greatly to the improvement of the country.”

    His concern was about assimilation, and that the large influx of Germans and their dense concentration in few areas would hinder it.

    Much the same applies today to Mexicans. They may be decent people in general, but their numbers and settlement patterns make assimilation difficult.

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    "You left out his closing comments: “I say I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have their virtues. Their industry and frugality are exemplary. They are excellent husbandmen, and contribute greatly to the improvement of the country.”

    Yet, despite his apparent wisdom, WASPs and nativists remained vigilant that this group did NOT possess those traits and lacked the capability of assimilating. Were WASP's and nativists wrong in their assessment?

    "Much the same applies today to Mexicans. They may be decent people in general, but their numbers and settlement patterns make assimilation difficult."

    Difficult, yes. Impossible, no.
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  142. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "I’m perfect fine with Trump being a hound..."

    Which is basically admitting, just like the Bill Clinton supporters, that you lack scruples. Congratulations on your accomplishment.

    "...if he was just capable of taking on the globo-media with an articulate presentation of the nationalist case."

    Except Trump is not a white nationalist, nor even is a die-hard believer of the cause.

    There’s widespread cynicism about politicians and their motives nowadays. People no longer expect honesty and integrity from their leaders. If they stand up for the interests of their voters, that’s enough. The bar is low.

    You also see this with Orban in Hungary, who is apparently a dishonest corrupt SOB, but because he stands up to Soros and the EU he’s a national hero. (Nobody hates Merkel worse than Orban’s domestic political opponents. He owes everything to her.)

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    "There’s widespread cynicism about politicians and their motives nowadays. People no longer expect honesty and integrity from their leaders. If they stand up for the interests of their voters, that’s enough. The bar is low."

    Thanks for the excuse, SJW-style. And people who supposedly embrace honesty and integrity, like the Alt Right and the religious right, should practice what they preach when it comes to voting for somehow who at least comes close to those ideals, rather than make excuses for their behavior.

    "You also see this with Orban in Hungary, who is apparently a dishonest corrupt SOB, but because he stands up to Soros and the EU he’s a national hero."

    Which makes them feelz good and glosses over the fact that the principles they espouse are being cast aside for convenience.
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  143. @Anonymous
    OT

    NYT just breathless:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/nyregion/supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-naturalization-ceremony.html

    Bedecked in a multicolored collar that reflected the diversity of the 201 new citizens before her, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over a naturalization ceremony on Tuesday at the New-York Historical Society, treating her rapt audience to a history lesson, one crackling with life and liberty.

    Justice Ginsburg told them that her own father arrived in this country at 13 with no fortune and no ability to speak English, and yet, she would soon be administering the oath of citizenship to them as a member of the highest court in the land.

    Across the packed rows of seats at the historical society’s Upper West Side theater sat people from 59 countries, with first names like Islam, Hussein, Kazi, Angie and Sunday, and with professions as diverse as pastors and pediatric cancer doctors. Two men from Guinea sat in the third row and learned they were both named Mamadou Alpha Diallo, both taxi drivers.

    “We are a nation made strong by people like you,” Justice Ginsburg said.

    ... After officiating at the ceremony, she went upstairs in the museum for a private talk with young fellows from the Immigrant Justice Corps, a program for immigration lawyers and practitioners founded in New York by Robert A. Katzmann, the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

    ... The Citizenship Project offers free classes to green card holders who are studying for the naturalization test, involving art, documents and artifacts at the museum. Since it began in July 2017, more than 600 people have completed the classes, said its president, Louise Mirrer, and the museum hopes to reach 1,000 by July.

    Ms. Mirrer was struck by the compact, powerful civics lesson Justice Ginsburg delivered. “She was careful to present this nation as one that is heavily into self-improvement,” Ms. Mirrer said.
     
    Louise Mirrer, author of Women, Jews and Muslims in the Texts of Reconquest Castile.

    Justice Ginsburg acknowledged that the United States was at its outset an imperfect union, and is still beset by poverty, low voting numbers and by the “struggle to achieve greater understanding of each other across racial, religious and socio-economic lines.”

    She urged its newest citizens to vote and to foster unity. “We have made huge progress, but the work of perfection is scarcely done,” she said.
     

    Two men from Guinea sat in the third row and learned they were both named Mamadou Alpha Diallo, both taxi drivers.

    Did they both have the same social security number, by any chance?

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  144. @Andy
    you are right, but in all honesty these two World Wars were Western Civilization's quite successful suicide attempt. Not the first time this happened, the fall of the Roman empire, the French revolution, the 1960s. There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.

    There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.

    The strength of western civilisation is its dynamism. That’s also its fatal flaw.

    Every culture understands that stability is a good thing. Every culture except western culture that is. As soon as stability is achieved westerners want to start smashing things.

    Australia provides one of the finest examples. Fifty years ago we had what was arguably the best society on earth. Not the richest (although we were a very rich country) but if you look at the combination of prosperity, stability, security, low crime and incredibly low levels of violence and if you add to that a benign climate and zero external threats there really was no better place to live on the entire planet.

    And how did Australians react to all this? We decided it all had to change. Who wants to live in a wealthy, peaceful stable society? So we took a hammer to it and started smashing it. Because that’s what white Europeans do.

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    Don't you find down under life too bored & monotonous during 1980's ~ 90's?

    Property price & rental were so depressed no one bother to buy but rent one. Social welfare so good, why work? Pay was so high, things so cheap. Good sunny beaches.

    Crime rate was so low, even hungry aborigines used to break in only stole our food, and druggie carry away our heavy CRT type TV. Car break in happens occasionally at isolated beach when we do some fishing, slap a note say "pls spare us, Old retirees looking for some free fish for dinner" and likely you got spare. Vietnamese refugees committed most crimes, but they do among themselves leaving us alone.

    Everywhere is whites, few well educated rich Chinese migrants from Malaysia & Spore, walking our dogs in parks chatting friendly to everyone.

    All shops shuttled by 4pm, except those diligent Chinese with their shops & delicious (msg)restaurants, or some Targets supermarkets. Dial a pizza. Damn boring isn't it?

    So Oz decided time to change, they elected PM Howard. He went over Spore to learn from the Mecca of Money Squeezing. So well doctrined, he brought back the get rich quick mantra from Goh Chok Tong, his infamous property speculation theory as a 1st Class Economic graduate from NUS.

    In no time, Howard introduced property stamp duty, first timer subsidy, encourage speculation by remorgaging living property to buy 10 more with 10% down payment. Properties price rocket to million and later generation pay with their future.

    Lay back economy got big boost, everywhere were constructions, new sale launches. Tax revenue 50% come from property tax in Perth. That's Oz economy miracle?

    But who gonna buy & rent all these empty houses built at nowhere? Immigrants are quick solution, they are wealthy, buying up properties, cars, consumerism. It was fortunate mineral resources market boomed & China bought endlessly with tourism to save the Oz from 2008 financial disaster.

    Like Canada, Oz is so huge with only 20+ millions people, got nothing but arid sandy deserts, large coastal, relying only on tourism & minerals export, so immigration is the magic bullet for continuous GDP growth.

    Our whites brothers & sisters in the West lead by US are flooding itself with migrants, that must be latest best idea. Let's take in another 50Mil non white Asians to grow with diversification, hence we are a truly qualified self appointed Australiasia Sheriff, with our all mighty new submarine fleets.

    Now who do we want import50Mil, Spore & Malaysia have too small population, qualified white migrants incl Nz are not enough, how about wealthy educated IQ 105 Chinese without crimes, or poor IQ80 Indians with cheating certificates, or refugees arriving with boats across Indonesia, from Vietnam triads, South Asia, ME Muslims, Africans, …

    Turnbull shrieking Yellow Perils on Uncle Scam command, so he will have all the rapefugees & Indians to fill the migrants number. Congratulation, a new shithole has just born.
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  145. @Autochthon

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." – Philip K. Dick
     
    I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    Steve has written about this phenomenon a lot with regard to rapes at colleges, and I commented upon it once earlier with regard to the recent allegations against Sylvester Stallone.

    the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    This is where feminism leads. Inevitably.

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  146. @res
    I think your interpretation (born in X, currently living in US) is correct. The 2000 data is further away from 1950 (and 1930) so less affected by what you said and it shows 706,000 Germans and 473,338 Italians. That said, the way the numbers decline going forward from there means your point about an echo is definitely in play. The question is the relative magnitudes and timing.

    As I said, I basically agree with you, just trying to refine the numbers.

    I like that pie chart link. I’ve never seen it before and yet it does confirm what Pew suggested, that there are around 11 million people alive in the USA today who were born in Mexico.

    It always blows me away that people don’t think it odd that a New World nation has sent that many immigrants. Our whole story was that our ancestors left the bad, Old World with its rigid social systems and such to come to the New World for the chance to breathe free and rise to where your natural talents could take you. And you see this expressed in Canada, Australia, NZ and the USA.

    What better way to show that the English New World is superior to the Latin one by the millions of Latin American citizens who choose with their feet. Unfortunately the America that was is being gutted because of it.

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    What I find even more depressing is that if you download the brain drain spreadsheet you will see that in 2010 2.9 million of the 5.0 million Mexican male immigrants were low skill (< HS grad). 30% of the 16 million total male immigrants fell into this category. For women it was 2.4 million out of 4.2 million with similar total numbers.
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  147. @Corvinus
    "So it appears Mexico has sent almost as many immigrants in 30 to 40 years as the next two largest source nations COMBINED sent in almost 400 years. Digest that one. That’s unreal."

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together--despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades--to prove his "point". Note that the Italians were not even a blip on the immigration radar screen from 1607 to the late 1800's. At least Germans have a more NOTICEABLE track record of immigration, as there numbers were decidedly larger.

    But Benjamin Franklin, that great American patriot, was deathly concerned about German immigrants overrunning America. He warned: "Those [Germans] who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties...In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious."

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together–despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades–to prove his “point”.

    First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan.

    Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years.

    Third, you are correct that immigrant groups have peaks and there is not a steady, four-hundred year stream of consistent immigration from one source. But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that “they have had their share”.

    Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK’s book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history.

    Since we know there are at least 11 million Mexican-born people alive in the USA today, that means Mexico has sent close to a fourth the people in about 30 to 40 years as the entire continent of Europe has over 400 years. Heck, I am glad you brought up the “comparing a country to a continent” issue because I never compared Mexico to the entire European continent for an immigration count.

    I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time.

    Just for fun here is another crazy comparison that will surprise most on the issue of immigration. About 500K Greeks had come to America by 1958. Possibly another 100K have come since. Similar figures exist for Polish immigrants. So the combined amount of Poles and Greeks that have ever immigrated to the USA is around 1 to 1.2 million.

    Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came.

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    The population of El Salvador (6.3m) is about a sixth the size of Poland (38m), and this proportion was probably reasonably true across past upheavals and growth. Poland is not a Scandinavian utopia (thank god) and there are plenty of other expatriate Polish pockets, so it's not like Poland has sone policy formula that is inaccessible to Salvadoreans. Poland also benefits from unapologetic national consciousness and nearby German companies, though. The idea that American Polacks have been exceeded by double by a more recent group coming from a much smaller population really makes real the legacy media under-reporting on these numbers.
    , @Corvinus
    "First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan."

    Yes, I realize Buchanan individually noted how much immigration came from each European nation. But they did not come at the same time and in large numbers at the same time, they came in waves. He lumped the Europeans together (plural) when comparing Mexicans (singular) over a 400-year time span to make a specious comparison, rather than comparing each European group at their peak level if immigration over the same number of years as the Mexicans.

    "Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years."

    Again, the two largest sources came over at different periods of time to our nation at different rates, and Mexico was not even a nation until the early 1800's. Buchanan is trying to score cheap points here. Not buying it.

    "But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that “they have had their share”.

    You have no argument from me on this point.

    "Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK’s book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history."

    Which again is not an apples to apples comparison.

    "I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time."

    It's not unreal, as the factors and circumstances involved for why Europeans chose and chose not to come to the United States are in some cases unique as to why Mexicans chose and chose not to come to the United States. Again, not an apples to apples comparison.

    "Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came."

    Probably because there has been more political and economic instability for Salvadorans compared to Greeks and Poles. Hence, a major factor why a number of groups South of the border come here in greater numbers. No different as to why the Irish came here in the 1840's and 1850's--times were tough financially. BUT, when there economy improved, there was little incentive to leave.
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  148. @istevefan

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together–despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades–to prove his “point”.
     
    First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan.

    Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years.

    Third, you are correct that immigrant groups have peaks and there is not a steady, four-hundred year stream of consistent immigration from one source. But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that "they have had their share".

    Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK's book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history.

    Since we know there are at least 11 million Mexican-born people alive in the USA today, that means Mexico has sent close to a fourth the people in about 30 to 40 years as the entire continent of Europe has over 400 years. Heck, I am glad you brought up the "comparing a country to a continent" issue because I never compared Mexico to the entire European continent for an immigration count.

    I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time.

    Just for fun here is another crazy comparison that will surprise most on the issue of immigration. About 500K Greeks had come to America by 1958. Possibly another 100K have come since. Similar figures exist for Polish immigrants. So the combined amount of Poles and Greeks that have ever immigrated to the USA is around 1 to 1.2 million.

    Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came.

    The population of El Salvador (6.3m) is about a sixth the size of Poland (38m), and this proportion was probably reasonably true across past upheavals and growth. Poland is not a Scandinavian utopia (thank god) and there are plenty of other expatriate Polish pockets, so it’s not like Poland has sone policy formula that is inaccessible to Salvadoreans. Poland also benefits from unapologetic national consciousness and nearby German companies, though. The idea that American Polacks have been exceeded by double by a more recent group coming from a much smaller population really makes real the legacy media under-reporting on these numbers.

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    The population of El Salvador (6.3m) is about a sixth the size of Poland (38m), and this proportion was probably reasonably true across past upheavals and growth.
     
    Today it is that. But in 1980 you had around 4.5 million Salvadorans to 35.5 million Poles, or about an eighth. So that makes the Salvadoran surge a little worse. Add to the fact they outnumber the Poles and Greeks combined and it makes you think.

    PS. It appears there are also around 930K Guatemalans and over a million Dominicans.
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  149. @istevefan
    I like that pie chart link. I've never seen it before and yet it does confirm what Pew suggested, that there are around 11 million people alive in the USA today who were born in Mexico.

    It always blows me away that people don't think it odd that a New World nation has sent that many immigrants. Our whole story was that our ancestors left the bad, Old World with its rigid social systems and such to come to the New World for the chance to breathe free and rise to where your natural talents could take you. And you see this expressed in Canada, Australia, NZ and the USA.

    What better way to show that the English New World is superior to the Latin one by the millions of Latin American citizens who choose with their feet. Unfortunately the America that was is being gutted because of it.

    What I find even more depressing is that if you download the brain drain spreadsheet you will see that in 2010 2.9 million of the 5.0 million Mexican male immigrants were low skill (< HS grad). 30% of the 16 million total male immigrants fell into this category. For women it was 2.4 million out of 4.2 million with similar total numbers.

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    I'll have to dig into that spreadsheet. But from what you describe Mexican immigration is anything but a brain drain.
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  150. @Anonymous
    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid "Damien" after the Omen movie came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren't very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.

    I'm guessing that the sort of child who would grow up to be a NYT journalist is not in the latter category of Damiens.

    This writer is named Damien Cave. You have to wonder about the attitudes and genetics of parents who would name a kid “Damien” after the movie “The Omen” came out in 1976. Some will be Satanists. Others just non-denominationally evil. A few will be hapless folk who aren’t very aware of pop culture and just liked the name Damien.

    It looks like the baby name “Damien” spiked in popularity in the years immediately after the movie The Omen was released. The link below has a handy graph (scroll down).

    https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-damien-462945.htm

    Year – Damien baby name rank
    1969 – 800
    1970 – 741
    1971 – 682
    1972 – 475
    1973 – 413
    1974 – 284
    1975 – 327
    1976 – 284 (The Omen released)
    1977 – 246
    1978 – 161
    1979 – 183
    1980 – 182
    1981 – 228
    1982 – 242
    1983 – 262

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  151. @J.Ross
    The population of El Salvador (6.3m) is about a sixth the size of Poland (38m), and this proportion was probably reasonably true across past upheavals and growth. Poland is not a Scandinavian utopia (thank god) and there are plenty of other expatriate Polish pockets, so it's not like Poland has sone policy formula that is inaccessible to Salvadoreans. Poland also benefits from unapologetic national consciousness and nearby German companies, though. The idea that American Polacks have been exceeded by double by a more recent group coming from a much smaller population really makes real the legacy media under-reporting on these numbers.

    The population of El Salvador (6.3m) is about a sixth the size of Poland (38m), and this proportion was probably reasonably true across past upheavals and growth.

    Today it is that. But in 1980 you had around 4.5 million Salvadorans to 35.5 million Poles, or about an eighth. So that makes the Salvadoran surge a little worse. Add to the fact they outnumber the Poles and Greeks combined and it makes you think.

    PS. It appears there are also around 930K Guatemalans and over a million Dominicans.

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  152. @res
    What I find even more depressing is that if you download the brain drain spreadsheet you will see that in 2010 2.9 million of the 5.0 million Mexican male immigrants were low skill (< HS grad). 30% of the 16 million total male immigrants fell into this category. For women it was 2.4 million out of 4.2 million with similar total numbers.

    I’ll have to dig into that spreadsheet. But from what you describe Mexican immigration is anything but a brain drain.

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    I’ll have to dig into that spreadsheet.
     
    The data is well worth a look. There are three different spreadsheets. Well described at http://www.iab.de/en/daten/iab-brain-drain-data.aspx#Contents

    The numbers I quoted above came from the first (Brain-drain data ), but the second (Migration by gender) might be more useful for overall immigration numbers and includes those under 25 (diffing the over 25 and all numbers might be interesting). The third spreadsheet (Emigration rates) is useful if you want to focus on the source countries instead (e.g. see below).

    But from what you describe Mexican immigration is anything but a brain drain.
     
    Actually, that does not necessarily follow. Looking at the emigration spreadsheet for 2010, Mexico is notable for having a low skill emigration rate (17.8%) that is higher than the high skill emigration rate (12.12%) (true for only 5 of ~196 countries). However, that high skill emigration rate still constitutes a decent brain drain (but small compared to the many countries with high skill emigration rates >40%).

    This paragraph from a paper I linked and gave a lengthy excerpt from in http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734
    helps clarify the distinction between selection rate and brain drain:

    Many economists have demonstrated that immigrants are not randomly selected. An interesting selection indicator is given by the proportion of skilled emigrants in the total emigration stock. Table 5.4 gives the 30 highest and lowest selection rates among emigrants. The highest selection rates are observed in Asian countries where the rate of brain drain is rather low. Interestingly, Qatar, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Kuwait exhibit drastic selection rates despite a low brain drain. Other high-education countries are affected—Taiwan (China), Japan, Hong Kong (China), Canada, and Israel—as well as a few African countries—including Nigeria, Swaziland, South Africa, and Zambia. At the other extremity of the distribution, selection rates are low in traditional unskilled emigration countries such as Turkey, Mali, Portugal, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Mauritania. Several OECD countries also exhibit low selection rates (such as Portugal, Mexico, Italy, the Slovak Republic, and Spain). The selection is rather low in a few poor countries characterized by an important brain drain (for example, Senegal, The Gambia, Samoa, Suriname, and Mozambique).
     
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  153. @istevefan
    I'll have to dig into that spreadsheet. But from what you describe Mexican immigration is anything but a brain drain.

    I’ll have to dig into that spreadsheet.

    The data is well worth a look. There are three different spreadsheets. Well described at http://www.iab.de/en/daten/iab-brain-drain-data.aspx#Contents

    The numbers I quoted above came from the first (Brain-drain data ), but the second (Migration by gender) might be more useful for overall immigration numbers and includes those under 25 (diffing the over 25 and all numbers might be interesting). The third spreadsheet (Emigration rates) is useful if you want to focus on the source countries instead (e.g. see below).

    But from what you describe Mexican immigration is anything but a brain drain.

    Actually, that does not necessarily follow. Looking at the emigration spreadsheet for 2010, Mexico is notable for having a low skill emigration rate (17.8%) that is higher than the high skill emigration rate (12.12%) (true for only 5 of ~196 countries). However, that high skill emigration rate still constitutes a decent brain drain (but small compared to the many countries with high skill emigration rates >40%).

    This paragraph from a paper I linked and gave a lengthy excerpt from in http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734
    helps clarify the distinction between selection rate and brain drain:

    Many economists have demonstrated that immigrants are not randomly selected. An interesting selection indicator is given by the proportion of skilled emigrants in the total emigration stock. Table 5.4 gives the 30 highest and lowest selection rates among emigrants. The highest selection rates are observed in Asian countries where the rate of brain drain is rather low. Interestingly, Qatar, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Kuwait exhibit drastic selection rates despite a low brain drain. Other high-education countries are affected—Taiwan (China), Japan, Hong Kong (China), Canada, and Israel—as well as a few African countries—including Nigeria, Swaziland, South Africa, and Zambia. At the other extremity of the distribution, selection rates are low in traditional unskilled emigration countries such as Turkey, Mali, Portugal, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Mauritania. Several OECD countries also exhibit low selection rates (such as Portugal, Mexico, Italy, the Slovak Republic, and Spain). The selection is rather low in a few poor countries characterized by an important brain drain (for example, Senegal, The Gambia, Samoa, Suriname, and Mozambique).

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  154. @AnotherDad
    The War affecting genetics doesn't work at all.

    It's very hard to move the needle on selection with a one generation event that isn't absolutely catastrophic. And remember, even if the "best and bravest" men preferentially died, their sisters--and in some cases even their young sons and daughters!--are still around. And of course the same genes they had are floating all over their nation's gene pool.

    Then you have the nations problem. Poland, the Soviet Union and Germany took really substantial population hits. But the Soviet Union sure looked "manly" enough to fight the Cold War, and Russia looks like one of the least cucked states today. Poland (along with maybe Hungary) looks like about the least cucked Western-Christian nation. Germany does seem pretty cucked. But it bounced back to the Wirtschaftswunder and the people still seem to perform like Germans. The cucked problem seems to be entirely the continuous war guilt "bad German!" propaganda they get from their baby bottle on through life, not the actual War.

    Then on the flip side a bunch of nations' losses were trivial. America's 400,000 wouldn't move pop-gen at all. Most all of our best and bravest came home. (I grew up with these dads in the neighborhood. Guys who hit the beaches, or drove tanks. One dad in my scout troop flew a dive bomber at Midway and helped sink a Japanese carrier.) And America is clearly cuck propaganda central. We pitch "diversity"--i.e. suicide--like a used car dealer.

    Sweden sat the War out and is cuck central. The Swedes have committed suicide-by-diversity.


    Ok this was overly wordy, but i hope it suffices. The War changing pop-gen has nothing to do with it. No commenter need float that bogus theory again.
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  155. @Anonymous
    There's widespread cynicism about politicians and their motives nowadays. People no longer expect honesty and integrity from their leaders. If they stand up for the interests of their voters, that's enough. The bar is low.

    You also see this with Orban in Hungary, who is apparently a dishonest corrupt SOB, but because he stands up to Soros and the EU he's a national hero. (Nobody hates Merkel worse than Orban's domestic political opponents. He owes everything to her.)

    “There’s widespread cynicism about politicians and their motives nowadays. People no longer expect honesty and integrity from their leaders. If they stand up for the interests of their voters, that’s enough. The bar is low.”

    Thanks for the excuse, SJW-style. And people who supposedly embrace honesty and integrity, like the Alt Right and the religious right, should practice what they preach when it comes to voting for somehow who at least comes close to those ideals, rather than make excuses for their behavior.

    “You also see this with Orban in Hungary, who is apparently a dishonest corrupt SOB, but because he stands up to Soros and the EU he’s a national hero.”

    Which makes them feelz good and glosses over the fact that the principles they espouse are being cast aside for convenience.

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  156. @Anonymous
    You left out his closing comments: "I say I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have their virtues. Their industry and frugality are exemplary. They are excellent husbandmen, and contribute greatly to the improvement of the country."

    His concern was about assimilation, and that the large influx of Germans and their dense concentration in few areas would hinder it.

    Much the same applies today to Mexicans. They may be decent people in general, but their numbers and settlement patterns make assimilation difficult.

    “You left out his closing comments: “I say I am not against the admission of Germans in general, for they have their virtues. Their industry and frugality are exemplary. They are excellent husbandmen, and contribute greatly to the improvement of the country.”

    Yet, despite his apparent wisdom, WASPs and nativists remained vigilant that this group did NOT possess those traits and lacked the capability of assimilating. Were WASP’s and nativists wrong in their assessment?

    “Much the same applies today to Mexicans. They may be decent people in general, but their numbers and settlement patterns make assimilation difficult.”

    Difficult, yes. Impossible, no.

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  157. @istevefan

    What is unreal is that Buchanan comes to a conclusion through an apples to oranges comparison, i.e. a continent versus a country. He lumps all Europeans together–despite the fact different ethnic groups came at different times and had peak numbers in particular decades–to prove his “point”.
     
    First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan.

    Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years.

    Third, you are correct that immigrant groups have peaks and there is not a steady, four-hundred year stream of consistent immigration from one source. But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that "they have had their share".

    Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK's book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history.

    Since we know there are at least 11 million Mexican-born people alive in the USA today, that means Mexico has sent close to a fourth the people in about 30 to 40 years as the entire continent of Europe has over 400 years. Heck, I am glad you brought up the "comparing a country to a continent" issue because I never compared Mexico to the entire European continent for an immigration count.

    I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time.

    Just for fun here is another crazy comparison that will surprise most on the issue of immigration. About 500K Greeks had come to America by 1958. Possibly another 100K have come since. Similar figures exist for Polish immigrants. So the combined amount of Poles and Greeks that have ever immigrated to the USA is around 1 to 1.2 million.

    Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came.

    “First, Buchanan did not lump all Europeans together. His book breaks out by ethnic group the various batches of immigrants from Jamestown to 1958, which includes 411K from China as of that time and 338K from Japan.”

    Yes, I realize Buchanan individually noted how much immigration came from each European nation. But they did not come at the same time and in large numbers at the same time, they came in waves. He lumped the Europeans together (plural) when comparing Mexicans (singular) over a 400-year time span to make a specious comparison, rather than comparing each European group at their peak level if immigration over the same number of years as the Mexicans.

    “Second, Buchanan just listed the immigration figures from the JFK book. I took them and compared them to what Mexico has sent in just the past 35 years, and concluded Mexico has sent almost as many as the combined total that the next two largest sources did over four hundred years.”

    Again, the two largest sources came over at different periods of time to our nation at different rates, and Mexico was not even a nation until the early 1800′s. Buchanan is trying to score cheap points here. Not buying it.

    “But I do think it is worth noting how many Mexicans have come recently. It should result in any future immigration legislation severely limiting Mexican immigration on the grounds that “they have had their share”.

    You have no argument from me on this point.

    “Fourth, I think your statement about comparing a country to a continent is not in your favor. If Buchanan had combined all the Europeans in JFK’s book, you would have had in the neighborhood about 41 million Europeans of all stripes who had come to America during a 350 year period from Jamestown to 1958. Possibly 5 million more Europeans have come since that time. So we are looking at around 46 to 47 million combined, European immigrants in our history.”

    Which again is not an apples to apples comparison.

    “I find it unreal that combined number of European immigrants over 400 years is little more than 4 times the number that Mexico has sent in one tenth the time.”

    It’s not unreal, as the factors and circumstances involved for why Europeans chose and chose not to come to the United States are in some cases unique as to why Mexicans chose and chose not to come to the United States. Again, not an apples to apples comparison.

    “Since the early 1980s, 1.3 million Salvadorans have come. That figure came as a surprise to me. As many Salvadorans are alive in the USA today as all the Greeks and Poles who ever came.”

    Probably because there has been more political and economic instability for Salvadorans compared to Greeks and Poles. Hence, a major factor why a number of groups South of the border come here in greater numbers. No different as to why the Irish came here in the 1840′s and 1850′s–times were tough financially. BUT, when there economy improved, there was little incentive to leave.

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  158. TT says:
    @Anon
    The only thing that will save America/Australia is a president with the balls to take control of the media - probably with the military like the U.S. did in Iraq: march in and take over the TV studios. Tell the employees they're all laid-off, and that their last check is in the mail - but those who do as they're told can stay. The teleprompter readers who think themselves "journalists" will leave. The technicians and camera men will stay and keep food on their children's table. You'll hire other, patriotic, teleprompter readers and America/Australia will be saved.

    "Hey Donald, you know how you love good press? Well, there's one sure away to make guarantee that you always get great press!"

    Short of a President who does this, the West is doomed.

    Every Prez of US & Oz PM has balls to do that, but they did it by a more civilized way, privatized them into a few news magnates hands like Murdoch news corp.

    Then they have the msm brainwashed all of you once you are borned….. your wish has come true earlier than you think of.…hehehehe

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  159. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    Why do i get the feeling that if a bunch of white people flat out left the planet and established a colony on Mars, we'd see articles bemoaning their "racism" and demanding that "people of color" be allowed into the Martian colony.

    If white people build it ... they will come. *Must* be allowed to come. White people off doing their own thing ... racism!

    Oh you racist old man. Why won’t you allow non white to follow wherever you go, Mars or Mercury? Didn’t we sing together “we are the world”, its open one world, one nation. …

    When we are done with the West’s social welfare, we will move on for greener pastures like grazing herds. Don’t worry, won’t be long, its drying up.

    Damn Chinese, they never adopt these West stupid civilization of diversification & multiculturalism, empty talking about admiring our western culture. We shall export this idea to them.

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  160. TT says:
    @eah
    NYT, Newsweek, egal.

    https://twitter.com/willempet/status/983519584228728832

    The blacks are stupid, why kill these productive whites. They should guard them like a productive goose producing golden egg.

    May be they can learn something from Malaysia ex-PM, Mahatir, but he is actually a Indian ethnic Muslim pretended to be Malay.

    Once, he told his Malay voters who grew very discontented that 30% Chinese ethnics minority controlling 70% economics, when the Malays are hoarding 100% political power.

    Listen, we Malays don’t even has a Malay word in our language called STRIVE! Then he told a story:

    When the Malay saw a coconut tree, he think of taking a good siesta underneath.

    When the Indian saw a coconut tree, he his thinking of stealing some of the fruits for sale.

    When the Chinese saw them, he is thinking of employing the Malay man to guard the tree, and have the Indian to pluck the fruit and sell for him.

    So Chinese is naturally born to be acute business man. Let them do the biz, and we shall tax them and share their economic fruits.

    All the Malays agreed happily, and life goes on. The country continue to prosperous on growing Chinese tax revenue to provide welfare for the Malays.

    The whites in South Africa are hardworking guys, let them do all the hardwork & development, provide fair pay job for the blacks, and contribute tax revenue for blacks social welfare & development. Its a win win. The blacks will crash their economy unless China help them everything including birth control.

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  161. TT says:
    @dfordoom

    There is something in Western civilization that is not quite right, underneath there is a yearning to destroy everything, a self loathing that you seldom see in other cultures.
     
    The strength of western civilisation is its dynamism. That's also its fatal flaw.

    Every culture understands that stability is a good thing. Every culture except western culture that is. As soon as stability is achieved westerners want to start smashing things.

    Australia provides one of the finest examples. Fifty years ago we had what was arguably the best society on earth. Not the richest (although we were a very rich country) but if you look at the combination of prosperity, stability, security, low crime and incredibly low levels of violence and if you add to that a benign climate and zero external threats there really was no better place to live on the entire planet.

    And how did Australians react to all this? We decided it all had to change. Who wants to live in a wealthy, peaceful stable society? So we took a hammer to it and started smashing it. Because that's what white Europeans do.

    Don’t you find down under life too bored & monotonous during 1980′s ~ 90′s?

    Property price & rental were so depressed no one bother to buy but rent one. Social welfare so good, why work? Pay was so high, things so cheap. Good sunny beaches.

    Crime rate was so low, even hungry aborigines used to break in only stole our food, and druggie carry away our heavy CRT type TV. Car break in happens occasionally at isolated beach when we do some fishing, slap a note say “pls spare us, Old retirees looking for some free fish for dinner” and likely you got spare. Vietnamese refugees committed most crimes, but they do among themselves leaving us alone.

    Everywhere is whites, few well educated rich Chinese migrants from Malaysia & Spore, walking our dogs in parks chatting friendly to everyone.

    All shops shuttled by 4pm, except those diligent Chinese with their shops & delicious (msg)restaurants, or some Targets supermarkets. Dial a pizza. Damn boring isn’t it?

    So Oz decided time to change, they elected PM Howard. He went over Spore to learn from the Mecca of Money Squeezing. So well doctrined, he brought back the get rich quick mantra from Goh Chok Tong, his infamous property speculation theory as a 1st Class Economic graduate from NUS.

    In no time, Howard introduced property stamp duty, first timer subsidy, encourage speculation by remorgaging living property to buy 10 more with 10% down payment. Properties price rocket to million and later generation pay with their future.

    Lay back economy got big boost, everywhere were constructions, new sale launches. Tax revenue 50% come from property tax in Perth. That’s Oz economy miracle?

    But who gonna buy & rent all these empty houses built at nowhere? Immigrants are quick solution, they are wealthy, buying up properties, cars, consumerism. It was fortunate mineral resources market boomed & China bought endlessly with tourism to save the Oz from 2008 financial disaster.

    Like Canada, Oz is so huge with only 20+ millions people, got nothing but arid sandy deserts, large coastal, relying only on tourism & minerals export, so immigration is the magic bullet for continuous GDP growth.

    Our whites brothers & sisters in the West lead by US are flooding itself with migrants, that must be latest best idea. Let’s take in another 50Mil non white Asians to grow with diversification, hence we are a truly qualified self appointed Australiasia Sheriff, with our all mighty new submarine fleets.

    Now who do we want import50Mil, Spore & Malaysia have too small population, qualified white migrants incl Nz are not enough, how about wealthy educated IQ 105 Chinese without crimes, or poor IQ80 Indians with cheating certificates, or refugees arriving with boats across Indonesia, from Vietnam triads, South Asia, ME Muslims, Africans, …

    Turnbull shrieking Yellow Perils on Uncle Scam command, so he will have all the rapefugees & Indians to fill the migrants number. Congratulation, a new shithole has just born.

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  162. @Autochthon

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." – Philip K. Dick
     
    I hate to be the one to have to point this out (its not the classiest observation), but while rape is inexcusable, the circumstances make it pretty clear that, while she may not have wanted sex, this girl was intentionally playing with fire to accompany a pack of thuggish Negroes – all far too old to be associating with her in hardly any healthy social context except perhaps a family barbecue or some such – back to their apartment. I all but guarantee she was abysmally parented, slutting it up, and running wild when her puerile and foolish delusions of feminine empowerment, racial tolerance (if indeed she is not herself a Negro), and all the other nonsense slammed into reality. The girl, and, more so, her parents, bear much blame for this tragedy.

    Steve has written about this phenomenon a lot with regard to rapes at colleges, and I commented upon it once earlier with regard to the recent allegations against Sylvester Stallone.

    Everyday in America, young white girls hang out with young black men, and vice versa, and nothing remotely like this savage event occurs.

    Sure; I often used to send my thirteen-year-old nieces off to spend time alone in an apartment with six men, five of them between the ages of eighteen and twenty, to “play video games,” precisely because, as you rightly state, that kind of thing is done all the time – especially when the female is European and the males Negroes, what with the statistics about interracial rapes and sexual assaults being what they are! – with no negative ramifications whatsoever. I have a son, but hopefully one day I will also have a daughter, so I can send her into such unremarkable situations as well, confident “nothing remotely like this savage event” will occur. Why, I’m sure Barack Obama often sent his own daughters off into exactly these kinds of situations without a care in the world, because otherwise he’d be a nasty racist. And you, sir: surely you’ve adolescent daughters who regularly spend time alone in apartments “playing video games” (as the crazy kids call it nowadays!) with groups of grown men unrelated to them, right?

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  163. @eah
    Canada's 'Minister of Citizenship and Immigration' -- he's the one in the middle.

    http://i2.wp.com/mvslim.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Canada.png

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