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From the New York Times today:

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By firing James Comey, Trump shattered the our second most sacred tradition, the Halfth Amendment that says, in honor of J. Edgar Hoover, that the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life.

As for lower level law enforcement officers, who cares about them? From the New York Times on July 7, 2016:

After Philando Castile’s Killing, Obama Calls Police Shootings ‘an American Issue’
By MATT FURBER and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA JULY 7, 2016

ST. PAUL — President Obama, reacting with the same horror as many Americans to a grisly video of a bloody, dying man in Minnesota who was shot by the police, begged the nation to confront the racial disparities in law enforcement while acknowledging the dangers that officers face.

“When incidents like this occur, there’s a big chunk of our citizenry that feels as if, because of the color of their skin, they are not being treated the same, and that hurts, and that should trouble all of us,” Mr. Obama said in a statement on Thursday after arriving in Warsaw for a NATO summit. “This is not just a black issue, not just a Hispanic issue. This is an American issue that we all should care about.”

A few hours earlier, Gov. Mark Dayton of Minnesota, who seemed shaken by the video showing the man, Philando Castile, as he died, also pointed to the role of race. “Would this have happened if the driver were white, if the passengers were white?” he asked. “I don’t think it would have.”

The statements capped a wrenching day that started with widespread replays of the extraordinary video of Mr. Castile’s final moments and the aftermath of the shooting, which his girlfriend had narrated as they occurred live on Facebook. There were demonstrations and a vigil for Mr. Castile, with appearances by members of his family, in St. Paul.

But the shooting reverberated far beyond the state. In Dallas, gunfire broke out Thursday evening at a demonstration, turning a vocal but peaceful rally into chaos as two snipers shot at police officers, killing five of them, the police said.

In other words, the previous President’s impassioned pro-BLM speech on black men being gunned down by police preceded by mere hours a black man BLM enthusiast murdering five Dallas cops. But who can remember way back to 2016?

Seriously, that’s the actual article in the New York Times: Obama “begged the nation to confront the racial disparities in law enforcement” in the first paragraph and in the fifth paragraph, oh by the way, five dead cops in Dallas.

 
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  1. Ivy says:

    Dallas was the trigger event for many voters. Obama’s reckless act will be memorialized in future dissertations.

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    Totally agree, Ivy. Basic guy realized he has "no effin back up" so, the USA was a "whatever" country in a weekend. Obama and his minions, were truly, unworldly, (for like 1000+ years) to think that people would believe he could do something about law enforcement on the streets! Obama and his wife, were all about photo ops...like all the assholes in politics for the last 25 years. Eff them.
    , @Forbes
    Were there two snipers in Dallas that killed the five cops? I don't recall that...
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  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Yep, cops hate Trump and Trump hates cops. Every cop I know worships Hillary and Barack, honest!

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda. Then things would be grand, wouldn’t they? Not happening, though. And not only isn’t it happening, their audience is shrinking. Couldn’t happen to a better dishrag, honest.

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    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?
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  3. MB says: • Website

    But who can remember way back to 2016?

    That’s correct. Nobody is supposed to remember anything, but fumble around in a permanent state of amnesia. But so far some of you are not doing very good at not remembering.
    This will not be forgotten.

    Nobody has ever heard of this book with the killer title either, never mind remember it even those it is readily available on the river of books site,
    Black Lies Matter: Why Lies Matter to the Race Grievance Industry.

    IOW the veritable swamp of information available these days is not all about the truth and nothing but the truth. Rather the fakestream moron media’s job is about vomiting so much radar chaff that they can’t even remember what they are supposed to be doing.

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  4. slumber_j says:

    Off-topic: I’d like to know more about Enoch Powell’s good friend, this couturier Hardy Amies:

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Shouldn't your post be in the Enoch Powell thread? But thanks anyway, though I haven't watched the video, I've never heard of Hardy Amies even though I've spent some time on Savile Row. That's what I get for hanging out at Gieves. I appreciate the education.
    , @Dan Hayes
    slumber_j:

    Who cares about Hardy Amies after watching the fascinating Enoch Powell Documentary!

    And sincere thanks for introducing me to the documentary.

    In the documentary Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?
    , @theo the kraut
    Interesting fellow:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Amies
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ratweek

    Fun facts:

    - Personal life
    - Initially discreet about his homosexuality, Amies became more candid in his old age; and, when speaking of Sir Norman Hartnell, another renowned dressmaker to the Queen, he commented: "It's quite simple. He was a silly old queen and I'm a clever old queen".

    - [...] Amies was an integral part of Operation Ratweek, an assassination project developed by SOE to eliminate double agents and Nazi sympathizers in Belgium. In 2000, a BBC 2 documentary entitled Secret Agent named Amies as one of the men who helped to plan the murder of dozens of Nazi collaborators, but Amies disclaimed all knowledge of the matter.[6]

    - Hardy Amies was quirky, yet conservative; for example, having his British Army uniform tailored on Savile Row. Years later, Hardy recalled that Kim Philby was in his mess; and, on being asked what the infamous spy was like, Hardy quipped, 'He was always trying to get information out of me—most significantly the name of my tailor'.

    Queers. They don't mak'em anymore like they used too. RIP.

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  5. 1661er says:

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/feds-cyberbullying-reverses-cops-convictions-for-shooting-unarmed-people/

    Feds’ cyberbullying reverses cops’ convictions for shooting unarmed people
    Online “propaganda campaign” allowed feds to smear officers, taint trial.

    And despite being called out by a federal judge for “grotesque misconduct” and referral to Office of Professional Responsibilities, Kara Donbinski was basically unpunished for her unethical, illegal conducts.

    http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/13/13-31078-CR0.pdf

    Dobinski remains in federal employment with only a bare reproof for her online commenting.

    Tom Perez, the AAG in charge of the so-called Civil Right Division at DoJ when all those were happening, were elevated to the cabinet rank. He is now the head of DNC.

    Who waged “the War on Police?”

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  6. guest says:

    The headline-writer is dyslexic. He meant: “Law Enforcement’s Unparalleled War on the President.”

    By the way, the DOJ is confirmed for crying out in pain as they strike you.

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    • Agree: ben tillman
    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @guest
    Speaking of which, nobody but NOBODY cries out in pain as you strike them like the media (including women). So keep an eye on the Yahoo News angle. They might go extra-specially nuts soon.

    The MSM is all wrapped up in abuse of state power. That's the reason I'm not as hopping mad as I should be about them running away from perhaps the biggest political scandal in U.S. history. Because they'd be busting themselves, to an extent.

    Almost makes you feel sorry for them. (Not really.) Who could have expected Trump to win and this stuff to come out?

    , @guest
    I should specify, that's top-brass political law enforcement. Lower levels I think were mightily missed during the Late Obama Age, and especially after Emailgate went kaput and Comey insisted on being Comey. I remember hearing rumbles of mutiny after Weiner's laptop was found.

    Which sounded like pre-election hype at the time, but concerning that election no hype is overhype. Unless it was Hillary overhyping a cartoon frog.

    , @lavoisier
    The NYT continues to declare itself the enemy of justice and truth.
    , @Dennis Dale
    The Deep State bleats through the New York Times as it disenfranchises you.
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  7. Mr. Anon says:

    Since when is the FBI one of the country’s”most important institutions”?

    There is a word for a country built around police institutions.

    Police State.

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    insanity.

    just like the NYT and Comey talking about the importance of preserving the FBI's independence. Come again? Unelected bureaucrat James Comey and his band of thugs are not an "independent" "check and balance" on my elected government.


    btw, Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire of a smug, delusional, arrogant jackass with no self-awareness sticking his head up his own asshole--forever. that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning.
    , @Russ
    "Since when is the FBI one of the country’s”most important institutions”?"

    Especially when it had just been the Federal Bureau of Matters less than two years ago.
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  8. guest says:
    @guest
    The headline-writer is dyslexic. He meant: "Law Enforcement's Unparalleled War on the President."

    By the way, the DOJ is confirmed for crying out in pain as they strike you.

    Speaking of which, nobody but NOBODY cries out in pain as you strike them like the media (including women). So keep an eye on the Yahoo News angle. They might go extra-specially nuts soon.

    The MSM is all wrapped up in abuse of state power. That’s the reason I’m not as hopping mad as I should be about them running away from perhaps the biggest political scandal in U.S. history. Because they’d be busting themselves, to an extent.

    Almost makes you feel sorry for them. (Not really.) Who could have expected Trump to win and this stuff to come out?

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  9. guest says:
    @guest
    The headline-writer is dyslexic. He meant: "Law Enforcement's Unparalleled War on the President."

    By the way, the DOJ is confirmed for crying out in pain as they strike you.

    I should specify, that’s top-brass political law enforcement. Lower levels I think were mightily missed during the Late Obama Age, and especially after Emailgate went kaput and Comey insisted on being Comey. I remember hearing rumbles of mutiny after Weiner’s laptop was found.

    Which sounded like pre-election hype at the time, but concerning that election no hype is overhype. Unless it was Hillary overhyping a cartoon frog.

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  10. Tiny Duck says:

    Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement

    Nice try though

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

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    TD - may I suggest you use 'Drumpf' rather than 'Trump'. It would be more in keeping with your chosen character.
    , @fish

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions
     
    Ohs Tinys....memebr last'n night....when Lenstert "subvirted yo instit2shuns".


    Lenstert "he be'n a gentel and kind lover" Pitzzs
    , @ThreeCranes
    I agree Tiny. "white supremacy is not synonymous with law enforcement".

    You are correct. Law enforcement is not synonymous with white supremacy in our (Unz reader's) essentially impartial implementation of it. That so many negroes fall afoul of the Law is another matter entirely.

    And indeed, "What trump is doing is subverting our institutions" is also correct. Insofar as your institutions stand outside the Law they shall be undermined and corrected.
    , @J.Ross
    Tiny Duck: "Law enforcement is not synonymous with white supremacy."
    Screencapped. We must never forget.
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  11. Lagertha says:
    @Ivy
    Dallas was the trigger event for many voters. Obama's reckless act will be memorialized in future dissertations.

    Totally agree, Ivy. Basic guy realized he has “no effin back up” so, the USA was a “whatever” country in a weekend. Obama and his minions, were truly, unworldly, (for like 1000+ years) to think that people would believe he could do something about law enforcement on the streets! Obama and his wife, were all about photo ops…like all the assholes in politics for the last 25 years. Eff them.

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    however, wounded predators are the worst predators.
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  12. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    Totally agree, Ivy. Basic guy realized he has "no effin back up" so, the USA was a "whatever" country in a weekend. Obama and his minions, were truly, unworldly, (for like 1000+ years) to think that people would believe he could do something about law enforcement on the streets! Obama and his wife, were all about photo ops...like all the assholes in politics for the last 25 years. Eff them.

    however, wounded predators are the worst predators.

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  13. @Anonymous
    Yep, cops hate Trump and Trump hates cops. Every cop I know worships Hillary and Barack, honest!

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda. Then things would be grand, wouldn't they? Not happening, though. And not only isn't it happening, their audience is shrinking. Couldn't happen to a better dishrag, honest.

    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda

    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

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    • Agree: AndrewR, rogue-one
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    My guess is that it's much more the former. The whip hand is securely in place and less pretense is required. Additionally, audiences are considerably more segregated now, for better or worse.

    Not sure the younger hacks even know what they're doing, really. It's more like breathing and eating now. The food we eat and the air we breathe.

    , @Lagertha
    sheesh. so done - Millennials in the "flyover " states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat's ass about you?

    The sisterhood bullshit you were fed at your you U - well, they lied. They only cared about the rich parents (donors) over your, perhaps, very, very smart ass. But. like, show it.

    I

    , @Twodees Partain
    " I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?"

    Is this two trick questions in one?
    , @Olorin
    We no longer live in a subtle age, Dave.

    Courting has been replaced by "Game"/numales and sluts.

    You hear "fuck" used in business meetings now.

    The "MTV edit"--45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial--is the standard.

    Popular music is scientifically engineered to grab the specific attention of specific marketing-research-tested-and-demonstrated audience slices.

    Religion is hellfire and immivasion. Spirituality is a book tour/resort retreat/cruise.

    NYT's propaganda has to claim the attention of their chosen audience slice that by definition is the loudest, twitchiest, most novelty-demanding information fashionistas.

    What intrigues me is that their noise may be subtly turning people against the noise.

    , @bartok
    There is a sense among elite journalists of "this is what we have trained for all these years" (confronting fascism) - subtlety goes out the window.

    In their minds playing on loop is "Heroes" by David Bowie.

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  14. Lagertha says:

    fougetaboutdid. I remember this..and we all hated demo rats getting away with crap in 2016. Oy Vey.

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    meant to say: 2018
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  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

    My guess is that it’s much more the former. The whip hand is securely in place and less pretense is required. Additionally, audiences are considerably more segregated now, for better or worse.

    Not sure the younger hacks even know what they’re doing, really. It’s more like breathing and eating now. The food we eat and the air we breathe.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    It's always preferable to assume one's enemies are acting maliciously instead of merely incompetently.
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  16. Lagertha says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

    sheesh. so done – Millennials in the “flyover ” states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat’s ass about you?

    The sisterhood bullshit you were fed at your you U – well, they lied. They only cared about the rich parents (donors) over your, perhaps, very, very smart ass. But. like, show it.

    I

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    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Lagertha wrote to me:

    sheesh. so done – Millennials in the “flyover ” states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat’s ass about you?
     
    Ummm, I'm not quite sure how to parse that. Were you trying to respond to Tiny Duck?
    , @Lagertha
    meant to say: 2018 towards, Duck (who I despise and pray for doom every night - I
    'm a pagan, duh) and a-hole Democrats, should be toast. No one cares anymore since the Democrats in PA/NJ/NY/CT have absolutely nothing to offer for the middle class - nothing - bleeding is it, is what they are proposing. DENOCRATS SUCK BIG SUCK> Jersey way.
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  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @slumber_j
    Off-topic: I'd like to know more about Enoch Powell's good friend, this couturier Hardy Amies:

    https://youtu.be/dc26aTCwyYM?t=617

    Shouldn’t your post be in the Enoch Powell thread? But thanks anyway, though I haven’t watched the video, I’ve never heard of Hardy Amies even though I’ve spent some time on Savile Row. That’s what I get for hanging out at Gieves. I appreciate the education.

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I’ve never heard of Hardy Amies ... That’s what I get for hanging out at Gieves.
     
    That is no surprise—unless you happened to be transitioning.

    Hardy Amies was the Queen's dressmaker.

    , @Anon
    Stop and Frisk Donald Trump.
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  18. trev006 says:

    It’s getting to the point where the President will probably be able to make FBI about as welcome in “flyover” country as the IRS is in backwoods West Virginia.

    If he wanted, he could put even more pressure on competent police officers in diverse cities, too…

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    • Replies: @biz

    welcome in “flyover” country as the IRS is in backwoods West Virginia.
     
    What percentage of people in backwoods WV actually pay any federal income taxes? Nationwide it is only 53%, so in one of America's poorest areas it must be way less than half. So probably they don't mind the IRS so much.
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  19. AP says:

    OT but Morrissey interview is interesting:

    Original in German is behind a paywall, translation is here:

    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/morrissey-interview-polaroid-photo-in-german-spiegel-magazine.141269/#post-1987042048

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  20. Whiskey says: • Website

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”

    Well, that will work out real well. I’m sure all of America is just waiting for the Gay Gestapo to use strong arm tactics to enforce vibrant displays of spontaneous multiculturalism upon every White male in America.

    If the Feds can do what they did to Donald Trump, what makes you think they won’t do that to you? Are not already doing that to you? Directly? After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire. They could if they wanted and probably will under President Kamala Harris send out mass emails to employers, pastors, priests, neighbors, etc. showing your BadThinking and Noticing and Deplorable-ness and demanding action be taken or face Federal Charges for scratching their noses on Tuesday. Or something. Everything is technically illegal now even breathing (poisoning the air with carbon dioxide you global warming deniers!)

    That’s the next step.

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    "If we are marked to die, we are enough to do our country loss..."
    , @Lagertha
    I'm between "euthanization" and keeping 'em alive at the end of their expected lives.

    AND, I am fine with lobbing heads off. - I am waiting for the heads that must come off of the FBI ,NSA, CIA, DNC.

    Seriously, I am shocked, shocked that they have not killed themselves (you know who U are) like the amazing and honorable Japanese higher ups did, back in the day - the kamikazees had real balls.

    American FBI, NSA, CIA are yuge pussies...and, they got so effin ratted out, now, eff them - they are traitors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. FBI is sooooo personal for me...they are all, all covering up for their bodies, liars. Prove it to me, baby.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire.
     
    Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775 started with mass fire and ended in a swarm of rolling volleys all the way back to the harbor.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Concord_Retreat.png
    , @PhysicistDave
    Whiskey wrote:

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”
     
    Well... when I was a kid my great uncle was in the FBI. A wonderful guy. I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s. My step-mom has been good friends for over fifty years with a CIA operative. Multiple friends and family have been in the military.

    What you're saying Drudge is reporting does not sound like what I know of the FBI, the ordinary flunkies working for the Intelligence Community, law enforcement, or the military.

    Maybe my knowledge is just out of date. Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    But, somehow I do not think so. My guess is that the rot is still at the top, and that most of the rank-and-file are still Americans. We'll see.

    (By the way, isn't Drudge part of Conservatism, Inc. Is he a reliable source on matters relating to Trump?)

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  21. @Mr. Anon
    Since when is the FBI one of the country's"most important institutions"?

    There is a word for a country built around police institutions.

    Police State.

    insanity.

    just like the NYT and Comey talking about the importance of preserving the FBI’s independence. Come again? Unelected bureaucrat James Comey and his band of thugs are not an “independent” “check and balance” on my elected government.

    btw, Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire of a smug, delusional, arrogant jackass with no self-awareness sticking his head up his own asshole–forever. that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning.

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    "... the importance of preserving the FBI’s independence."
     
    Independence to do what? Things like threatenening to subpeona members of the House Committee charged with oversight of the FBI for actually overseeing it's activities. It really does take on a KGB quality when seen in that light.

    "Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire .... that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning."

     

    Shows that Comey is a hack lawyer; some of his Tweets could easily become exhibits for the prosecution.
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  22. BenKenobi says:
    @Whiskey
    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has "had it up to here" with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They've put him "on notice" that they've been around since 1908 and will indeed "get him."

    Well, that will work out real well. I'm sure all of America is just waiting for the Gay Gestapo to use strong arm tactics to enforce vibrant displays of spontaneous multiculturalism upon every White male in America.

    If the Feds can do what they did to Donald Trump, what makes you think they won't do that to you? Are not already doing that to you? Directly? After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire. They could if they wanted and probably will under President Kamala Harris send out mass emails to employers, pastors, priests, neighbors, etc. showing your BadThinking and Noticing and Deplorable-ness and demanding action be taken or face Federal Charges for scratching their noses on Tuesday. Or something. Everything is technically illegal now even breathing (poisoning the air with carbon dioxide you global warming deniers!)

    That's the next step.

    “If we are marked to die, we are enough to do our country loss…”

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  23. Lagertha says:
    @Whiskey
    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has "had it up to here" with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They've put him "on notice" that they've been around since 1908 and will indeed "get him."

    Well, that will work out real well. I'm sure all of America is just waiting for the Gay Gestapo to use strong arm tactics to enforce vibrant displays of spontaneous multiculturalism upon every White male in America.

    If the Feds can do what they did to Donald Trump, what makes you think they won't do that to you? Are not already doing that to you? Directly? After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire. They could if they wanted and probably will under President Kamala Harris send out mass emails to employers, pastors, priests, neighbors, etc. showing your BadThinking and Noticing and Deplorable-ness and demanding action be taken or face Federal Charges for scratching their noses on Tuesday. Or something. Everything is technically illegal now even breathing (poisoning the air with carbon dioxide you global warming deniers!)

    That's the next step.

    I’m between “euthanization” and keeping ‘em alive at the end of their expected lives.

    AND, I am fine with lobbing heads off. – I am waiting for the heads that must come off of the FBI ,NSA, CIA, DNC.

    Seriously, I am shocked, shocked that they have not killed themselves (you know who U are) like the amazing and honorable Japanese higher ups did, back in the day – the kamikazees had real balls.

    American FBI, NSA, CIA are yuge pussies...and, they got so effin ratted out, now, eff them – they are traitors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. FBI is sooooo personal for me…they are all, all covering up for their bodies, liars. Prove it to me, baby.

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    Aren't you on a world class roll? The DOJ should deputize you, and make you a double-O, and then send you to Baltimore. (Yes, of course you get the car designed by M.)

    Headline 1 year from now: Baltimore murder rate drops to zero. Democrats blame Trump for malicious prejudice, bias, halitosis, and bad manners in saving the black lives that Black Lives Matter doesn't care about.
    , @Lagertha
    YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND gallows humor, do you? Plus....the world sucks....right now...it really sucks - horrible promises by very privileged people - your, white friends, btw. Are you still espousing the all the "white people suck/destroyed about 1000 years of shit": 'cause, dude, run from these chicks - sayin' as a mother of hot guys!

    GOTFFY. You people have created monsters of Frankensteins that are gonna destroy your babies alive. I'll be long gone, due to age, but you better get with the Trump Train or you, and yours are Malthusian dead.
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  24. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    This scene is so quaint. Now, lying has been institutionalized. No one even feels any shame anymore.

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  25. KnoMad says:

    There is a thin – or not so thin – orange line protecting us from the deep state.
    By the way the entire immigration BS is a war against a nation of laws.
    The FBI is broken; it needs a comprehensive repair job.
    We may want to try a deep state lottery, give some of us real American dreamers a chance to join the schemers.

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  26. @Whiskey
    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has "had it up to here" with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They've put him "on notice" that they've been around since 1908 and will indeed "get him."

    Well, that will work out real well. I'm sure all of America is just waiting for the Gay Gestapo to use strong arm tactics to enforce vibrant displays of spontaneous multiculturalism upon every White male in America.

    If the Feds can do what they did to Donald Trump, what makes you think they won't do that to you? Are not already doing that to you? Directly? After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire. They could if they wanted and probably will under President Kamala Harris send out mass emails to employers, pastors, priests, neighbors, etc. showing your BadThinking and Noticing and Deplorable-ness and demanding action be taken or face Federal Charges for scratching their noses on Tuesday. Or something. Everything is technically illegal now even breathing (poisoning the air with carbon dioxide you global warming deniers!)

    That's the next step.

    After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire.

    Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775 started with mass fire and ended in a swarm of rolling volleys all the way back to the harbor.

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    Until I did the tourist trip to Concord and Lexington, I hadn't realized how much of 19th Century American literary history is concentrated within a few miles of the 18th century battle.
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  27. vinny says:

    The Castille thing really was a travesty: it was worthy of condemnation and it would have been a good catalyst for looking into how our police departments are misbehaving. Too bad they had previously poisoned the well with the Ferguson farce.

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    Yeah, that's the thing. Tamir Rice In Cleveland was just blown away, but they kept pushing the guilty "Gentle Giant." I was sickened when I saw the video of the officer shooting Castile. If it takes blacks protesting to clamp down on the 10-1 ratio of police killing citizens versus vice versa, good for the blacks protesting. But they're not interested in stopping just bad shoots, which no one thinks serve the cause of justice.
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  28. Realist says:

    This country is corrupt to the core.

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  29. @Lagertha
    sheesh. so done - Millennials in the "flyover " states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat's ass about you?

    The sisterhood bullshit you were fed at your you U - well, they lied. They only cared about the rich parents (donors) over your, perhaps, very, very smart ass. But. like, show it.

    I

    Lagertha wrote to me:

    sheesh. so done – Millennials in the “flyover ” states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat’s ass about you?

    Ummm, I’m not quite sure how to parse that. Were you trying to respond to Tiny Duck?

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    Missy was deep into her cups last night.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    It was not directed at you. It was directed at the NYT readership, and the propaganda-producing hacks the NYT hires.
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  30. @Whiskey
    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has "had it up to here" with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They've put him "on notice" that they've been around since 1908 and will indeed "get him."

    Well, that will work out real well. I'm sure all of America is just waiting for the Gay Gestapo to use strong arm tactics to enforce vibrant displays of spontaneous multiculturalism upon every White male in America.

    If the Feds can do what they did to Donald Trump, what makes you think they won't do that to you? Are not already doing that to you? Directly? After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire. They could if they wanted and probably will under President Kamala Harris send out mass emails to employers, pastors, priests, neighbors, etc. showing your BadThinking and Noticing and Deplorable-ness and demanding action be taken or face Federal Charges for scratching their noses on Tuesday. Or something. Everything is technically illegal now even breathing (poisoning the air with carbon dioxide you global warming deniers!)

    That's the next step.

    Whiskey wrote:

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”

    Well… when I was a kid my great uncle was in the FBI. A wonderful guy. I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the ’80s and ’90s. My step-mom has been good friends for over fifty years with a CIA operative. Multiple friends and family have been in the military.

    What you’re saying Drudge is reporting does not sound like what I know of the FBI, the ordinary flunkies working for the Intelligence Community, law enforcement, or the military.

    Maybe my knowledge is just out of date. Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    But, somehow I do not think so. My guess is that the rot is still at the top, and that most of the rank-and-file are still Americans. We’ll see.

    (By the way, isn’t Drudge part of Conservatism, Inc. Is he a reliable source on matters relating to Trump?)

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    they want to gaslight people into believing that their control and power is rooted in something real--but make no mistake, it absolutely is not.

    They are terrified that people will realize all of the guns and people who know how to use them being on one side means they really don't *need* to take shit from the other side. mostly, patriotic Americans are happy to let the people who hate them run amok. But what happens if the "establishment" pushes too far and they realize they've been on the wrong end of a leash this whole time?
    , @L Woods

    Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.
     
    To a very dispiriting extent, they have done exactly that. After all, why not - they know which side their bread's buttered on. The rank-and-file is probably still less pozzed than the general population, but they are by no means any bastion of conservatism, Americanism or what have you. The "leadership," of course, is worthless garbage in entirety.
    , @Alden
    50 years of ferocious affirmative action and the left HAS taken over a the government agencies including the FBI.

    Government employee Whites usually have a record of anti White college activism and then a few years in anti White non profits before they get the government job.

    That’s why the Jews got rid of the written tests and allowed volunteer activities to substitute for real paid experience.
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  31. Is it just me, or does it seem a bit over the top to characterise the people who went out of their way to not prosecute and to even hide HRC’s misdeeds as Law Enforcement???

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    It ain't just you. At least one other person agrees, though I might not be the best example of a perceptive ally. ;-)
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  32. @anonymouslee
    insanity.

    just like the NYT and Comey talking about the importance of preserving the FBI's independence. Come again? Unelected bureaucrat James Comey and his band of thugs are not an "independent" "check and balance" on my elected government.


    btw, Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire of a smug, delusional, arrogant jackass with no self-awareness sticking his head up his own asshole--forever. that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning.

    “… the importance of preserving the FBI’s independence.”

    Independence to do what? Things like threatenening to subpeona members of the House Committee charged with oversight of the FBI for actually overseeing it’s activities. It really does take on a KGB quality when seen in that light.

    “Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire …. that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning.”

    Shows that Comey is a hack lawyer; some of his Tweets could easily become exhibits for the prosecution.

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    Indeed, and admitting he leaked purloined and classified documents to the New York Times for the purpose of triggering a special counsel's appointment is remarkably candid but certainly not helpful to his co-conspirators Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller.

    The takeaway from the activities of Comey's FBI is that these guys felt invulnerable and why not. Hadn't they just cleared Hillary Clinton of all charges and gotten away with it.
    , @Redman
    You have to admit. To anyone following this saga since the election, Comey will likely come off as the biggest of twits when the story is told.

    There will never be any evidence that Trump “colluded” with Russia. Thus, any charges by Meuller will have to be the phoney type (obstruction of justice/perjury), the same low hanging fruit charged the FBI always makes and wins.

    But the purpose of the investigation was Russia. Many GOP members of the house committee (Gowdy, etc.) are still singing the mantra that the investigation is still valid. This may be technically true, but if its only evidence is the firing of comey by Trump, what can possibly be made of that. He fired a guy who was lying to the courts. That’s called smart.
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  33. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    fougetaboutdid. I remember this..and we all hated demo rats getting away with crap in 2016. Oy Vey.

    meant to say: 2018

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  34. Lot says:

    “the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life.”

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

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    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.
    , @Chris Mallory
    Keeping the ghetto trash of Eastern Europe out of the US in the late 1800's and early 1900's would have done more to fight the Red Menace.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.
     
    True, I suppose he didn't do a bad job keeping the lid on all those co-ethnics of yours who were dedicated to world revolution and engaged in soviet espionage.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "I think we needed Hoover"

    What 'we' are you referring to? The American people (we) needed Hoover and his FBI like you might need a pine cone between your butt cheeks while you're out for a morning run.

    "Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils."

    I didn't know that big brother was leasing three evils. Maybe you meant to type "lesser". If so, maybe I'm just misreading everything you're claiming. It seems that you're claiming that 'we' need a police state in order to protect us from a menace ( the presence of Muslim invaders) that could be removed by simple legislation.

    Of course, the legislation needed won't be forthcoming because of the way Hoover helped destroy the ability of Congress members to actually address real problems by making all of them afraid of being blackmailed by his secret police. In fact, that is the effect that having a secret police agency like the FBI has had on representative government. Congress is an easily controlled creature, thanks to Hoover.

    That is Hoover's real legacy, not some imaginary scenario in which he saved us all from communism.
    , @Issac
    The subversive element is the diaspora. The violence they'd more than happily farm out to anyone with a pulse, muslims all the better since they encourage the nihilistic neocon gentiles to give over even more to foreign intervention on our behalf. And it really is nothing new.
    , @Thomas

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.
     
    And who was the Director of the FBI, in fact had only been Director of the FBI for a week on 9/11, who oversaw its transformation from a law enforcement agency of limited jurisdiction into the sort of pervasive secret police agency necessary to identify the "bad apples" among all those followers of the "Religion of Peace?" Why, it's none other than the current Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.
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  35. @PhysicistDave
    Whiskey wrote:

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”
     
    Well... when I was a kid my great uncle was in the FBI. A wonderful guy. I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s. My step-mom has been good friends for over fifty years with a CIA operative. Multiple friends and family have been in the military.

    What you're saying Drudge is reporting does not sound like what I know of the FBI, the ordinary flunkies working for the Intelligence Community, law enforcement, or the military.

    Maybe my knowledge is just out of date. Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    But, somehow I do not think so. My guess is that the rot is still at the top, and that most of the rank-and-file are still Americans. We'll see.

    (By the way, isn't Drudge part of Conservatism, Inc. Is he a reliable source on matters relating to Trump?)

    they want to gaslight people into believing that their control and power is rooted in something real–but make no mistake, it absolutely is not.

    They are terrified that people will realize all of the guns and people who know how to use them being on one side means they really don’t *need* to take shit from the other side. mostly, patriotic Americans are happy to let the people who hate them run amok. But what happens if the “establishment” pushes too far and they realize they’ve been on the wrong end of a leash this whole time?

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  36. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    sheesh. so done - Millennials in the "flyover " states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat's ass about you?

    The sisterhood bullshit you were fed at your you U - well, they lied. They only cared about the rich parents (donors) over your, perhaps, very, very smart ass. But. like, show it.

    I

    meant to say: 2018 towards, Duck (who I despise and pray for doom every night – I
    ‘m a pagan, duh) and a-hole Democrats, should be toast. No one cares anymore since the Democrats in PA/NJ/NY/CT have absolutely nothing to offer for the middle class – nothing – bleeding is it, is what they are proposing. DENOCRATS SUCK BIG SUCK> Jersey way.

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  37. Dan Hayes says:
    @slumber_j
    Off-topic: I'd like to know more about Enoch Powell's good friend, this couturier Hardy Amies:

    https://youtu.be/dc26aTCwyYM?t=617

    slumber_j:

    Who cares about Hardy Amies after watching the fascinating Enoch Powell Documentary!

    And sincere thanks for introducing me to the documentary.

    In the documentary Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?

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    Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?
     
    I'm a 57 year old Brit who lived through this in Blighty.

    Powell was either effectively sacked (fired) by the then Tory leader Edward Heath or resigned over the EU (then the EEC - European Economic Community), likely some combination therin. Thatcher displaced Heath as Tory leader in 1975 whilst the Conservative party were in opposition. Labour's Harold Wilson was - at the time - prime minister. Margret Thatcher became Prime Minister in the 1979 general election with the Tory win, replacing the rather dull Labour prime minister James Callaghan, who himself had replaced Wilson.

    Powell joined the Northern Ireland Ulster Unionist and won the seat in South Down in the 1974 general election. Powell had recommended people vote Labour, as at the time they were anti the EEC. This caused some friction with many Tories.

    The man was utterly honest and as straight as an arrow. He was brilliant but ultimately stymied by clunky social skills, his 'otherwise' demeanour and his utter honesty. He did however have a special connection with the British blue collar worker, who sensed his honesty and that he had their interests at heart. Much the same can be said of the contemporary Jacob Rees Mogg, but of course Mogg is upper class, with silky smooth social graces, Powell was lower middle class - his folks were school teachers,

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  38. Sara Carter reported a couple days ago that Strzok and Page openly planned to violate the requirement to have their work-related communications stored:

    Strzok: “Hot damn. I’m happy to pilot that…we get around our security/monitoring issues?”

    Page: “No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently, the requirement to capture texts came from omb, but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we.”

    (The rest of the exchange at the link I provided is also enlightening.) What makes this actually funny is that FBI agents are not only planning on breaking the rules, but they are planning it on devices that they know are being monitored and archived!

    It’s like one of those self-referential logic puzzles (“This statement is a lie”): they are planning to evade being recorded but they are doing it on devices they know are being recorded.

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid? Do FBI agents have no sense at all of how to have a private conversation when they are planning to violate the rules?

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    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid?
     
     
    A lot of J. Edgar Hoover/Efrem Zimbalist Jr. nostalgia on the right persists to this day to make us imagine that, at some point in a past Golden Age, the FBI was made up of elite, incorruptible "scientific" crimefighters.

    But even in Hoover's day, his genius was in Bureau PR. The agents have never been elite, but mostly just adequate: graduates of second-tier law schools and accountancy programs who would rather not have to deal with counter-intelligence or criminal "profiling" assignments, but instead build careers meeting arrest quotas in interstate car theft and spending endless hours in bank robbery stakeouts.

    Now, compare that with the old KGB, which really was made up of the "best of the best" and was a true merit-based and IQ-tested elite. No wonder their foreign agents in the US ran rings around the Feds.
    , @MG
    The only way this can be explained is - they were certain Hillary was going to win.
    , @CCZ
    A bunch of stuff has appeared on Reddit and some “investigative” blogs about Peter P. Strzok Jr. as not just any FBI agent, but one with some interesting family and family connections. A lot of it is not fully corroborated, but information about Peter's father and wife is verified by reliable sources and old newspaper articles.

    Peter P. Strzok's father, Peter P. Strzok Sr. was a career US Army Corp of Engineers officer (Lt. Col.) who was stationed in Iran, retired from the military, was working in Iran (with his wife and son, future FBI agent Peter Jr. living there) as a unit-manager for Bell-Textron (who sold and maintained Iran's 2,000 helicopters prior to the Shah's overthrow), returned his family to Wisconsin in January 1979, traveled to Saudi Arabia, and eventually went to work for Catholic Charities Relief in Africa and Haiti, and continued to work in the field of international aid and development. [Leader Telegram, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, February 21, 1979; Green Bay Press-Gazette, August 7, 1981]

    In September 2016, he wrote a short article: 50-Year Difference In Iran, noting the transformation in Iran from American to Russian military bases.
    http://www.fayobserver.com/d8027ffd-e2a6-5ef0-be77-c43f22fb5fa6.html

    Melissa Hodgman, Peter Strzok’s Wife: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
    Peter Strzok, the top FBI agent under fire for allegedly sending anti-Donald Trump texts, is married to Melissa Hodgman, an official at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
    A family obituary confirms that Strzok is married to Hodgman, 49, who was named to her position with the SEC in October 2016.
    https://heavy.com/news/2017/12/melissa-hodgman-peter-strzok-wife-facebook-spouse/https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/who-is-peter-strzok/Published on

    Oct 14th, 2016 - The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that Melissa Hodgman has been named Associate Director in the SEC’s Enforcement Division.
    Ms. Hodgman has led the Enforcement Division’s Cross-Border Working Group, which provides expertise and assistance of matters with international actors and implications.
    Before joining the SEC staff, Ms. Hodgman worked as an associate at Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy in Washington.
    https://vigilantllc.com/melissa-hodgman-named-associate-director-in-sec-enforcement-division/

    , @EdwardM
    And Strzok was one of the top people in counterintelligence at the FBI, i.e., the sleuths who are supposed to unravel (other) people's attempts to subvert our institutions and hide their tracks. And the people who are supposed to be attuned to blackmail risks such as extramarital affairs.

    Can anyone be so stupid? The only other explanation is hubris.
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  39. In [Trump's] telling, that bureaucracy, now run by his own appointees, is a nest of political saboteurs out to undermine him — an accusation that raised fears that he was tearing at the credibility of some of the most important institutions in American life to save himself.

    And what, praytell, have the Democrats been doing for over a year now, if not “tearing at the credibility” of the executive branch of government in order to give their own party a boost in the mid-terms?

    Is it possible to be any less self-aware than a liberal?

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    what, praytell, have the Democrats been doing for over a year now, if not “tearing at the credibility” of the executive branch of government...?
     
    You are right of course.

    On the recent Nunes Memo Open Thread, there was some consensus that the Memo's release on Friday morning was to allow time over the weekend for a response to be calibrated. I think we are now seeing the Left's first attempt at a response: "The President's Unparalleled War on Law Enforcement" lol. The fact that it is pretty much the opposite of the truth is irrelevant for megaphone/propaganda purposes. As history shows, and Dalrymple explains, the less the Leftist propaganda conforms to reality, the better (for them).

    Maybe by Monday morning they will have come up with something better, but judging by how long they have run with the facially absurd Russians-Hacked-the-Election!!1!!1!* meme, I doubt it.

    *Which incidentally is also at stake in the Nunes Memo, so now the Left has to double-down to salvage their original ridiculous bet, throwing even worse propaganda after bad, as it were.

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  40. @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses

    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems — many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

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    it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals,
     
    That's because the long march through the institutions is complete for all intents and purposes and large swaths of America have imbibed their poison especially that emanating from (((Hollywood))) and the lamestream media. The media has always been more liberal than conservative but it's now almost 100% so and liberals have moved further to the left such that they are revolutionary bomb throwing leftists who have no compunction about attacking whites as whites and calling for our complete disenfranchisement (the non-leftist segment of white America).

    Yet.
     
    Yet is right. Bill Ayers once said the left would need to murder up to 25 million Americans and there's no shortage of lefties and non-whites who are itching to make that a reality.
    , @FPD72
    Claire Sterling, a journalist for Readers Digest, wrote numerous articles and books that uncovered the links between communism and international terrorism, including the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II. Any Digest reader who was familiar with her work would truly have had a better understanding of communism than Sontag and those of her ilk.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.
     
    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.
    , @TomSchmidt
    Thanks for unearthing that
    Sontag article.
    , @The Alarmist

    "...the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag."
     
    Somebody is ... we have the biggest prison population on the planet. And it's not like the Left isn't trying, what with all the "hate" modifiers being attached to existing crimes and new crimes like "hate speech" crimes being proposed every other day.

    As Max Keiser often says, ours is a Casino-Gulag economy.

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  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Lagertha wrote to me:

    sheesh. so done – Millennials in the “flyover ” states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat’s ass about you?
     
    Ummm, I'm not quite sure how to parse that. Were you trying to respond to Tiny Duck?

    Missy was deep into her cups last night.

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  42. @Anonymous
    Shouldn't your post be in the Enoch Powell thread? But thanks anyway, though I haven't watched the video, I've never heard of Hardy Amies even though I've spent some time on Savile Row. That's what I get for hanging out at Gieves. I appreciate the education.

    I’ve never heard of Hardy Amies … That’s what I get for hanging out at Gieves.

    That is no surprise—unless you happened to be transitioning.

    Hardy Amies was the Queen’s dressmaker.

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  43. unit472 says:

    Well of course the big crime problem in America today is Carter Page’s activities in Russia. So much so that the Director, Deputy Director and head of FBI counter intelligence personally signed off on 4 FISA warrants to keep this incredibly dangerous man under 24/7 surveillance less our nation be destroyed!

    Meanwhile 59 people are shot to death and hundreds wounded in Las Vegas as supersleuths James Comey and Robert Mueller doggedly pursue the White Whale of Russian/Trump collusion. I feel so safe knowing these guys are risking their lives protecting me from Russian pop up ads on Facebook.

    Its good to know that the FBI is now in the strong hands of former Comey lieutenant Christopher Wray to continue the FBI’s tradition of stonewalling and covering up so FBI agents can fly into the scene of the most recent mass shooting/terrorist incident and take over the investigation from state and local police departments so the public doesn’t ever learn what happened.

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  44. unit472 says:
    @The Alarmist

    "... the importance of preserving the FBI’s independence."
     
    Independence to do what? Things like threatenening to subpeona members of the House Committee charged with oversight of the FBI for actually overseeing it's activities. It really does take on a KGB quality when seen in that light.

    "Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire .... that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning."

     

    Shows that Comey is a hack lawyer; some of his Tweets could easily become exhibits for the prosecution.

    Indeed, and admitting he leaked purloined and classified documents to the New York Times for the purpose of triggering a special counsel’s appointment is remarkably candid but certainly not helpful to his co-conspirators Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller.

    The takeaway from the activities of Comey’s FBI is that these guys felt invulnerable and why not. Hadn’t they just cleared Hillary Clinton of all charges and gotten away with it.

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    "Remarkably candid"! Ha ha -- indeed!
    , @Russ
    Hope the Flynn family sues Comey into penury.
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  45. JimB says:

    The difference? Obama, belonging to a party that has dined out for far too long on the fallacy that that it is the Everyman party, attacked rank and file police officers for doing their jobs honestly, thereby endangering the communities he pretended to protect. Trump, belonging to the so-called white party accused of only being interested in the protecting the rich, is attacking the corrupt higher echelon careerists in the FBI and DOJ who were breaking the law to curry favor with Hillary, herself a corrupt law breaker, when it appeared her election was a sure thing.

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  46. The thing I’ve been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you’d have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statute agency trying to usurp the elected government.

    Then you have that Mudd fellow standing up and saying the FBI will “get” Trump, seemingly not realising how this underlines everything that has been said in the Nunes memo. What the hell is going on?

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    Mudd really stepped in it on CNN with that comment. He keeps on appearing there, apparently thinking that he's immune because he's appearing on TV. That kind of arrogance is usually the province of such bulletproof characters as Senators. Mudd, a minor spear carrier, could easily wind up in prison by attracting attention to his existence with his loud mouth.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    What the hell is going on?
     
    Trump called bullshit on their dishonesty, and the estabbers have panicked. I think the adage is "when in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."
    , @Anonymous

    The thing I’ve been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you’d have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statutory agency trying to usurp the elected government.
     
    That's a very perceptive and frightening observation, only one word of which I edited ('statutory').

    Steve, this could and should be the basis of an article on its own...
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  47. Lurker says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement


    Nice try though

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

    TD – may I suggest you use ‘Drumpf’ rather than ‘Trump’. It would be more in keeping with your chosen character.

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    Hey, do you think TD is not one person, rather, a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction?
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  48. Stealth says:

    It doesn’t surprise me – they’ve flip flopped on law enforcement before. Remember when conservatives began asserting themselves back in 2010? Liberals feigned concern that anti-government types would start killing cops. The foremost reason I would love to infiltrate a liberal organization is to discover the means by which they quickly get everyone to adopt a new position or belief. I mean, seriously, do they have meetings in which a leader tells activists or journalists what they’re now supposed to think? How does that go when the new position seems to contradict the old one?

    But who can remember way back to 2016?

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll repeat it until I’m no longer able to speak or write: Democrats can’t remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago.

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    "Democrats can’t remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago."

    Except for slavery, Emmett Till, Jim Crow, Nixon, and George "He lied and people died" Bush.

    But of course in the mind of White Genocide Party devotees, that all happened about three hours ago.
    , @Alden
    The brain of a liberal is like a sink. Liberal central control opens the plug and drains out last week’s propaganda. When the sink is empty, liberal central control closes the plug and turns on the faucet and fills the empty sink with the latest propaganda.

    NYSlimes pretends that the FBI is not part of the executive branch.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQw21ntR64
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  49. George says:

    assault on law enforcement … unlike anything seen in modern America.

    Ha ha the glorified interns hired as ‘reporters’ (really commentators) barely understand what the words they use mean. Ze added the word ‘modern’ for emphasis rather than meaning. What incident in ‘ancient’ America was ze referring to that Trump superseded? The Whiskey Rebellion? Or when President Lincoln sent the Army of the Potomac to arrest President Davis?

    I used the pronoun ze because the times needed three people to write that thing, and one was apparently an andro-American.

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    I would use that pronoun in reference to Lindsey Graham, but I'm not sure that Ze isn't a Qe.
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  50. @PhysicistDave
    Lagertha wrote to me:

    sheesh. so done – Millennials in the “flyover ” states are really, scary smart, like Ukrainian/Albanian /Moldavian/Bulgarian hacker smart. Do you really think the rest of the world gives a rat’s ass about you?
     
    Ummm, I'm not quite sure how to parse that. Were you trying to respond to Tiny Duck?

    It was not directed at you. It was directed at the NYT readership, and the propaganda-producing hacks the NYT hires.

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  51. President Trump has been dealing with a conspiratorial group of officials in the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation. Key members of the group specialized in counter-intelligence operations against Russia.

    Several years ago, FBI counter-intelligence initiated surveillance of Carter Page, an American citizen who had lived in and was doing business in Russia. To authorize this surveillance, DOJ/FBI obtained a warrant under FISA Title VII. In that status, Page was considered to be a US person who was being subjected to contacts from the Russian Intelligence service, which might be developing him to be recruited to become an agent.

    As time passed and the FBI surveillance of Page continued into early 2016, he formally became an adviser to the campaign staff of Donald Trump. Because of his experience in and with Russia, Page interacted with Trump associates who were dealing with political issues involving Russia.

    In mid-2016, when Trump was becoming the Republican Party’s nominee, the DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence officials in that conspiratorial group began developing a plot to accuse Trump of dealing secretly with the Russian government.

    In order to collect better information about dealings between the Russian government and Trump’s associates, the conspirators in DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence wanted to elevate Page’s FISA status from merely Title VII up Title I. In the latter status, Page would be considered to have become an active agent of the Russian Intelligence service. In that status, his interactions and communications as an adviser to Trump’s campaign staff would be considered to be his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump’s associates in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    Therefore, the FBI would be authorized under FISA to capture all of Page’s communications — in the future, present and past — with any US persons. Furthermore, the FBI would be authorized to study those persons’ subsequent communications with other US persons.

    In order to elevate Page’s FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the DOJ/FBI conspirators needed some plausible evidence to convince a FISA judge that Page had become an agent of the Russian Intelligence service. That evidence was provided by the company Fusion GPS, which had been hired by Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff.

    It is likely that Fusion GPS was informed that its research product would be very highly valued if it included plausible information that Page had been recruited by the Russian Intelligence service. Of course, Fusion GPS subsequently delivered a dossier that included such information about Page.

    Then DOJ/FBI packaged that information into an application to a FISA judge to elevate Page from Title VII to Title I. The FISA judge approved that application on October 21, 2016. Now the FBI was authorized to capture all of agent Page’s communications in the future, present and past.

    A major purpose in the DOJ/FBI conspiratorial group’s capturing of such communications was to leak derived information to Trump-hating journalists. Page’s communications with Trump’s associates about matters involving Russia would be analyzed, and tidbits that might incriminate Trump’s associates would be leaked to journalists. In this way, the public would be manipulated into suspecting that Trump was dealing criminally with Russia.

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    When Rod Rosenstein went to the White House to complain about the House committee's memorandum, he obtained one change in the memorandum. It's likely that Rosenstein's change was to remove from the memorandum any information that Carter Page had been surveilled by the FBI for several years before October 21, 2016, under FISA's Title VII.

    This removal creates in the public a false impression that the Fusion dossier was merely part of the information that was provided to the FISA judge in order to START surveillance of Page.

    In fact, however, the Fusion dossier provided information to ELEVATE Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I. In other words, the dossier convinced the FISA judge that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT of the Russian Intelligence service.

    Since DOJ/FBI elevated Page to the status of AGENT, the FBI could treat all of Pages's communications -- in the future, present and past -- as his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from US persons in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    -----

    Because the public has been misled to believe that surveillance merely STARTED on October 21, 2016, the Deep State will release and leak all available information indicating that there were good grounds to START surveilling him, because he was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    The Deep State is diverting the public from discussing the key issue -- that Page's FISA status was not STARTED, but rather was ELEVATED and that he was henceforth characterized as an AGENT, because of the dossier.

    -----

    Below are questions that the public should discuss and that the US Government should answer.

    * When (start and end) was Carter Page surveilled by the FBI under FISA's Title VII?

    * What kind of incriminating evidence is normally required to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * Is the DOJ/FBI supposed to provide exculpatory information to an FISA judge when applying to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * What additional investigative methods are allowed to the FBI after a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * After a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I, then how does that affect the privacy of a person who happens to communicate with this alleged agent of the foreign Intelligence service.

    , @Kylie
    Thank you for a concise explanation and timeline. Much appreciated. My takeaway is that it's worse than I thought and elements of our government are actively involved in undermining Trump's presidency by any means available to them.
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  52. @Lurker
    TD - may I suggest you use 'Drumpf' rather than 'Trump'. It would be more in keeping with your chosen character.

    Hey, do you think TD is not one person, rather, a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction?

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    Could be, by keeping it's persona very simple and limited they can maintain continuity.
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  53. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous
    My guess is that it's much more the former. The whip hand is securely in place and less pretense is required. Additionally, audiences are considerably more segregated now, for better or worse.

    Not sure the younger hacks even know what they're doing, really. It's more like breathing and eating now. The food we eat and the air we breathe.

    It’s always preferable to assume one’s enemies are acting maliciously instead of merely incompetently.

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  54. If only. There is no war on law enforcement, no matter how many times Heather MacDonald tries to convince people there is. There is a war by cops against the American people. It would be great if a president did act against these thugs in blue.

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  55. @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    Keeping the ghetto trash of Eastern Europe out of the US in the late 1800′s and early 1900′s would have done more to fight the Red Menace.

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  56. @Seamus Padraig

    In [Trump's] telling, that bureaucracy, now run by his own appointees, is a nest of political saboteurs out to undermine him — an accusation that raised fears that he was tearing at the credibility of some of the most important institutions in American life to save himself.
     
    And what, praytell, have the Democrats been doing for over a year now, if not "tearing at the credibility" of the executive branch of government in order to give their own party a boost in the mid-terms?

    Is it possible to be any less self-aware than a liberal?

    what, praytell, have the Democrats been doing for over a year now, if not “tearing at the credibility” of the executive branch of government…?

    You are right of course.

    On the recent Nunes Memo Open Thread, there was some consensus that the Memo’s release on Friday morning was to allow time over the weekend for a response to be calibrated. I think we are now seeing the Left’s first attempt at a response: “The President’s Unparalleled War on Law Enforcement” lol. The fact that it is pretty much the opposite of the truth is irrelevant for megaphone/propaganda purposes. As history shows, and Dalrymple explains, the less the Leftist propaganda conforms to reality, the better (for them).

    Maybe by Monday morning they will have come up with something better, but judging by how long they have run with the facially absurd Russians-Hacked-the-Election!!1!!1!* meme, I doubt it.

    *Which incidentally is also at stake in the Nunes Memo, so now the Left has to double-down to salvage their original ridiculous bet, throwing even worse propaganda after bad, as it were.

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    throwing even worse propaganda after bad, as it were.
     
    I like that one.

    One of the incredible things about this meme is the conflation of "law enforcement" with a federal agency.

    Trump should point out that the Democrats are so disconnected from the country and focused on beltway politics that they think law enforcement is something unitary run from DOJ.
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  57. KenH says:

    This illustrates how lefties love law enforcement when LE is on their side and doing their bidding such as the secret society within the FBI opposed to Trump and conspiring to create a basis for impeachement. If such a society existed that was opposed to Hussein Obama during his presidency the media would be wailing that this was the legacy of J. Edgar Hoover’s white supremacism and demanding sweeping reforms that would include more black and brown race chauvinists and SJW’s in leadership positions within the agency.

    It’s just like how when local police might injure or kill violent black criminals the media says they’re the KKK with badges, but when LE mistreats and manhandles pro-white individuals as in Charlottesville, VA 2017, they wave their pom poms for the thin blue line protecting society from evil white supremo-cists.

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  58. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement


    Nice try though

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

    Ohs Tinys….memebr last’n night….when Lenstert “subvirted yo instit2shuns”.

    Lenstert “he be’n a gentel and kind lover” Pitzzs

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  59. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The real title of the article is:

    The New York Times’ Unparalleled War on The President of the United States.

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  60. KenH says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

    it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals,

    That’s because the long march through the institutions is complete for all intents and purposes and large swaths of America have imbibed their poison especially that emanating from (((Hollywood))) and the lamestream media. The media has always been more liberal than conservative but it’s now almost 100% so and liberals have moved further to the left such that they are revolutionary bomb throwing leftists who have no compunction about attacking whites as whites and calling for our complete disenfranchisement (the non-leftist segment of white America).

    Yet.

    Yet is right. Bill Ayers once said the left would need to murder up to 25 million Americans and there’s no shortage of lefties and non-whites who are itching to make that a reality.

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    The left is almost 100% women and soy boys, and most of them find guns terrifying. We're not exactly dealing with the Bolsheviks here.

    As for the masculine "non-whites" with grievances, they tend to lack the IQ to pose a serious threat to an organized right-wing.

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  61. @Tiny Duck
    Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement


    Nice try though

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

    I agree Tiny. “white supremacy is not synonymous with law enforcement”.

    You are correct. Law enforcement is not synonymous with white supremacy in our (Unz reader’s) essentially impartial implementation of it. That so many negroes fall afoul of the Law is another matter entirely.

    And indeed, “What trump is doing is subverting our institutions” is also correct. Insofar as your institutions stand outside the Law they shall be undermined and corrected.

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  62. FPD72 says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

    Claire Sterling, a journalist for Readers Digest, wrote numerous articles and books that uncovered the links between communism and international terrorism, including the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II. Any Digest reader who was familiar with her work would truly have had a better understanding of communism than Sontag and those of her ilk.

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  63. Mr. Anon says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.

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    Hey! The man's trying to tell a story here.


    ;)
    , @Kylie
    "Then, after that admission, she [Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died."

    Died in intense fear and protracted agony from cancer some decades after proclaiming, "The white race is the cancer of human history...."
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Remarkable,wasn't it? It's like Sontag had a moment of clarity and then fell back under communism's spell.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died
     
    Well... I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:


    I've been pilloried as a reader of the Reader's Digest. I don't read the Reader's Digest.
     
    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader's Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader's Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader's Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a "libertarian," to be accepted by other "libertarians," etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if "libertarians" abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning "libertarians."

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I'm willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people's personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,


    Dave

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  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    True, I suppose he didn’t do a bad job keeping the lid on all those co-ethnics of yours who were dedicated to world revolution and engaged in soviet espionage.

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  65. @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

    ” I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?”

    Is this two trick questions in one?

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  66. @The Alarmist
    Is it just me, or does it seem a bit over the top to characterise the people who went out of their way to not prosecute and to even hide HRC's misdeeds as Law Enforcement???

    It ain’t just you. At least one other person agrees, though I might not be the best example of a perceptive ally. ;-)

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  67. @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    “I think we needed Hoover”

    What ‘we’ are you referring to? The American people (we) needed Hoover and his FBI like you might need a pine cone between your butt cheeks while you’re out for a morning run.

    “Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.”

    I didn’t know that big brother was leasing three evils. Maybe you meant to type “lesser”. If so, maybe I’m just misreading everything you’re claiming. It seems that you’re claiming that ‘we’ need a police state in order to protect us from a menace ( the presence of Muslim invaders) that could be removed by simple legislation.

    Of course, the legislation needed won’t be forthcoming because of the way Hoover helped destroy the ability of Congress members to actually address real problems by making all of them afraid of being blackmailed by his secret police. In fact, that is the effect that having a secret police agency like the FBI has had on representative government. Congress is an easily controlled creature, thanks to Hoover.

    That is Hoover’s real legacy, not some imaginary scenario in which he saved us all from communism.

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    Congress isn’t controlled by the FBI or any government police state. Congress is now controlled by AIPAC, a billion dollar non profit unregistered agency of a foreign government.

    Blackmail is no longer needed. AIPAC finds potential Congress as college freshman and recruits them. AIPAC brings them along in their careers and gets them into congress and keeps them there.

    If the critters dare dissent on any issue, a new AIPAC critter is quickly found to replace the dissenter in the next election

    Think I’ll stop calling them Congress critters and call them AIPAC critters from now on.
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  68. nebulafox says:

    J. Edgar Hoover would have tolerated Mexican flag waving illegal alien protesters rioting for of about 5 minutes before sending in the mass deportation squads, optics be damned.

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  69. The Democrats are responsible for the violence and mayhem emanating from the Black Lives Matter mob.

    The Democrats have blamed law enforcement officers for the wanton violence of the Black Lives Matter mob.

    The Democrats have jeopardized the safety and security of families in the United States by putting the interests of illegal aliens and criminals ahead of the interests of law-abiding Americans.

    The Democrats have clearly signalled that law enforcement and the rule of law will be disregarded to reward illegal aliens and the Black Lives Matter mob.

    The Democrats have Deep State agents embedded in some of the highest positions in federal law enforcement.

    It is up to President Trump to fire all Deep State Democrat agents who refuse to obey the law or uphold the US Constitution.

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  70. @vinny
    The Castille thing really was a travesty: it was worthy of condemnation and it would have been a good catalyst for looking into how our police departments are misbehaving. Too bad they had previously poisoned the well with the Ferguson farce.

    Yeah, that’s the thing. Tamir Rice In Cleveland was just blown away, but they kept pushing the guilty “Gentle Giant.” I was sickened when I saw the video of the officer shooting Castile. If it takes blacks protesting to clamp down on the 10-1 ratio of police killing citizens versus vice versa, good for the blacks protesting. But they’re not interested in stopping just bad shoots, which no one thinks serve the cause of justice.

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  71. Part of the end game for Trump and the Republicans must be to take down at least a couple of the big fish at the FBI who were the kingpins and to get complete confessions out of them. The Democrats are so deep in denial and the MSM so complicit that this wound can never heal until there is a reckoning.

    The Nuremberg trials were not held because we had to find out if the Nazis were guilty. It was so future generations would hear the truth from the mouths of those most responsible so they could not deny it either.

    We will never find the truth in Clinton, Comey, Lynch, Holder, or Obama. I also don’t have a great yen to seem them behind bars, in fact it makes me ashamed and uncomfortable. But if the truth does not will out, then using the police for political purposes will be the new normal and our Republic will be at great risk.

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    I wouldn't be bothered at all to see Comey, Mueller, Clinton and Obama imprisoned. Using police for political purposes has been the norm for much of US history. Ordinary citizens were always the targets. It's just that this is the first time politicians and government hacks stand a chance of being held to account for it, probably because politicians and government hacks were the targets this time.

    If the evidence showed that only some ordinary, unknown taxpayer was being victimized, there wouldn't have been any memo to release.
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  72. J1234 says:

    Trump’s Unparalleled War on a Pillar of Society: Law Enforcement

    The left loves law enforcement all of the sudden.
    Unless you’re talking about ICE, who are technically fascism and hatred, not law enforcement.

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  73. @PhysicistDave
    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

    Thanks for unearthing that
    Sontag article.

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  74. Jake says:

    “In other words, the previous President’s impassioned pro-BLM speech on black men being gunned down by police preceded by mere hours a black man BLM enthusiast murdering five Dallas cops. But who can remember way back to 2016?

    Seriously, that’s the actual article in the New York Times: Obama “begged the nation to confront the racial disparities in law enforcement” in the first paragraph and in the fifth paragraph, oh by the way, five dead cops in Dallas.”

    Way back in the Golden Age of the Sacred Most Numinous Negro Obama, when these events occurred, I had that basic conversation with a Soccer Mom who said that before Obama she had always voted Republican but now she understood racism as it really was. Her response to my pointing out the absurdity was: “People like you are so blind in your backwardness that you can’t see the obvious answer right in front of you. If the police were mostly black, then Black Lives Matter wouldn’t have to kill them to make their point.’

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    Way back in the Golden Age of the Sacred Most Numinous Negro Obama, when these events occurred, I had that basic conversation with a Soccer Mom who said that before Obama she had always voted Republican but now she understood racism as it really was. Her response to my pointing out the absurdity was: “People like you are so blind in your backwardness that you can’t see the obvious answer right in front of you. If the police were mostly black, then Black Lives Matter wouldn’t have to kill them to make their point.’
     
    This is why extending the franchise to all women may not have served the interests of a functioning republic.

    Voters, whether women, men, black, or white should have to pass a test of competency before being given the franchise. Like all such tests, it will discriminate in favor of the competent over the incompetent and marginal.

    Universal suffrage is a prescription for the current disaster our republic is facing.

    Braindead voters are incapable of electing leaders properly.

    If the electorate were just a little bit smarter,no chance McCain, Ryan, Graham, Bush, Clinton, Obama or any of the assorted charlatans and traitors elected to higher office could have gotten in.

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  75. Along the lines of all politics are local, I don’t think of the FBI when some one says law enforcement. I know that’s their job, but public security starts way closer to home i.e., the local police, sheriff or troopers, than the FBI.

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  76. NickG says:
    @Dan Hayes
    slumber_j:

    Who cares about Hardy Amies after watching the fascinating Enoch Powell Documentary!

    And sincere thanks for introducing me to the documentary.

    In the documentary Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?

    Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?

    I’m a 57 year old Brit who lived through this in Blighty.

    Powell was either effectively sacked (fired) by the then Tory leader Edward Heath or resigned over the EU (then the EEC – European Economic Community), likely some combination therin. Thatcher displaced Heath as Tory leader in 1975 whilst the Conservative party were in opposition. Labour’s Harold Wilson was – at the time – prime minister. Margret Thatcher became Prime Minister in the 1979 general election with the Tory win, replacing the rather dull Labour prime minister James Callaghan, who himself had replaced Wilson.

    Powell joined the Northern Ireland Ulster Unionist and won the seat in South Down in the 1974 general election. Powell had recommended people vote Labour, as at the time they were anti the EEC. This caused some friction with many Tories.

    The man was utterly honest and as straight as an arrow. He was brilliant but ultimately stymied by clunky social skills, his ‘otherwise’ demeanour and his utter honesty. He did however have a special connection with the British blue collar worker, who sensed his honesty and that he had their interests at heart. Much the same can be said of the contemporary Jacob Rees Mogg, but of course Mogg is upper class, with silky smooth social graces, Powell was lower middle class – his folks were school teachers,

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    NickG,

    Thanks for your response.

    You noted Powell's special connection with British blue collar workers. This was vividly shown in the Enoch Powell Documentary with London longshoremen fervently marching in support.

    Your linking Powell to Jacob Rees Mogg was very interesting. I know little about British politics but I do appreciate JMR's skillful skewering of sundry politicos and pontificating BBC windbags.
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  77. I have to suspect that the left is now preparing to stop what it most fears: a Special Counsel devoted to uncovering the abuses by so-called law-enforcement and other agencies, such as the State Department, in the Obama administration.

    They have to have some argument that such a Special Counsel would, for some reason, be an outrage, despite the ample evidence of real, not faked up, crimes being committed.

    How will they try to do so, given that a Special Counsel on “Russia Collusion” was appointed based on “evidence” that is so obviously ginned up?

    As we already see with the response to the memo, one can never predict the ways, or underestimate the powers, of hypocrisy, when only hypocrisy will save you.

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    Oops, should have said

    ...overestimate the powers...
    , @The Alarmist
    Never underestimate the ability of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After hearing the comments of Cuck-Tease Trey Gowdy, who talks a great game but never pursues his brilliant interrogations to prosecution and closure, it is easy to see that there is a non-trivial probability there will not be a second special prosecutor to cover the FBI and DOJ, and it is possible the IG investigation will yield a couple firings, but no jail time.
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  78. @PhysicistDave
    Sara Carter reported a couple days ago that Strzok and Page openly planned to violate the requirement to have their work-related communications stored:

    Strzok: “Hot damn. I’m happy to pilot that…we get around our security/monitoring issues?”

    Page: “No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently, the requirement to capture texts came from omb, but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we.”
     
    (The rest of the exchange at the link I provided is also enlightening.) What makes this actually funny is that FBI agents are not only planning on breaking the rules, but they are planning it on devices that they know are being monitored and archived!

    It's like one of those self-referential logic puzzles ("This statement is a lie"): they are planning to evade being recorded but they are doing it on devices they know are being recorded.

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid? Do FBI agents have no sense at all of how to have a private conversation when they are planning to violate the rules?

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid?

     
    A lot of J. Edgar Hoover/Efrem Zimbalist Jr. nostalgia on the right persists to this day to make us imagine that, at some point in a past Golden Age, the FBI was made up of elite, incorruptible “scientific” crimefighters.

    But even in Hoover’s day, his genius was in Bureau PR. The agents have never been elite, but mostly just adequate: graduates of second-tier law schools and accountancy programs who would rather not have to deal with counter-intelligence or criminal “profiling” assignments, but instead build careers meeting arrest quotas in interstate car theft and spending endless hours in bank robbery stakeouts.

    Now, compare that with the old KGB, which really was made up of the “best of the best” and was a true merit-based and IQ-tested elite. No wonder their foreign agents in the US ran rings around the Feds.

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    At least in Hoover's day they were less straight-up murderous. I would take trapping Dillinger over Waco anyday.

    Plus, I prefer them going after commies, for instance, to going after the president.

    If you assume Hoover blackmailed a series of presidents, blackmail is blackmail but it's not getting them thrown out of office or in jail.

    If you believe they helped throw Kennedy in the ground, that's something else.

    , @Anon
    Hannibal Lecter: You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well-scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition has given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed? Pure West Virginia. What's your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you … all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars … while you could only dream of getting out … getting anywhere … getting all the way to the FBI.
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  79. L Woods says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Whiskey wrote:

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”
     
    Well... when I was a kid my great uncle was in the FBI. A wonderful guy. I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s. My step-mom has been good friends for over fifty years with a CIA operative. Multiple friends and family have been in the military.

    What you're saying Drudge is reporting does not sound like what I know of the FBI, the ordinary flunkies working for the Intelligence Community, law enforcement, or the military.

    Maybe my knowledge is just out of date. Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    But, somehow I do not think so. My guess is that the rot is still at the top, and that most of the rank-and-file are still Americans. We'll see.

    (By the way, isn't Drudge part of Conservatism, Inc. Is he a reliable source on matters relating to Trump?)

    Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    To a very dispiriting extent, they have done exactly that. After all, why not – they know which side their bread’s buttered on. The rank-and-file is probably still less pozzed than the general population, but they are by no means any bastion of conservatism, Americanism or what have you. The “leadership,” of course, is worthless garbage in entirety.

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    NY Times prints opinion piece from FBI Agent “political [Trump] operatives” undermining credibility of FBI. Most all reader comments (surprise, surprise!!), Trump evil, FBI pillar of virtue.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/opinion/leaving-the-fbi.html

    Why I Am Leaving The FBI

    After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love. Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America’s premier law enforcement agency but also the nation’s security. My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible.

    Political operatives are weaponizing their disagreement with a particular investigation in a bid to undermine the credibility of the entire institution. “The system is rigged” is their slogan, and they are now politicizing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act process used to collect critical intelligence about our adversaries.

    The assumption among confused and dismayed F.B.I. employees is that the attacks are meant to soften the blow should the investigation by Mr. Mueller, the special counsel, lead to additional charges. However, these kinds of attacks by powerful people go beyond mere criticism — they could destroy the institution.

    Josh Campbell is a former supervisory special agent with the F.B.I. who served as a counter-terrorism investigator and special assistant to the bureau’s director.

     

    , @Twodees Partain
    Your comment made me think of something. In the days when I worked for companies, before I started my business, a job would change an awful lot over the course of eight years. The atmosphere, goals, procedures and policies would change quite a lot in some ways in that many years, not to mention the ways I would change.

    With that being the case, I'd have to wonder what kind of changes employees of a government agency would see. Their top management might change drastically after an election, and all of their top people would be politically appointed asshats.

    Keeping up with the changes of leadership would probably be enough to make a decent person into somebody his own mother wouldn't recognize over the course of a 24 year career of being bossed by political hacks. Add to the mix the fact that lots of people attracted to "law enforcement" are sociopaths to start with.

    The whole shitaree (as the old mountain men said) would be a menace to anyone who came into their field of fire. 8 years of Obama, preceded by 8 years of W is 16 years of libtard rule. Add in the preceding 8 years of the Clintons and that's an entire 24 year career spent under libtard leadership for many of the people in FLEAs and the military.

    That kind of makes them a big segment of the government that is actively dangerous to life and liberty.
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  80. Forbes says:
    @Ivy
    Dallas was the trigger event for many voters. Obama's reckless act will be memorialized in future dissertations.

    Were there two snipers in Dallas that killed the five cops? I don’t recall that…

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  81. @candid_observer
    I have to suspect that the left is now preparing to stop what it most fears: a Special Counsel devoted to uncovering the abuses by so-called law-enforcement and other agencies, such as the State Department, in the Obama administration.

    They have to have some argument that such a Special Counsel would, for some reason, be an outrage, despite the ample evidence of real, not faked up, crimes being committed.

    How will they try to do so, given that a Special Counsel on "Russia Collusion" was appointed based on "evidence" that is so obviously ginned up?

    As we already see with the response to the memo, one can never predict the ways, or underestimate the powers, of hypocrisy, when only hypocrisy will save you.

    Oops, should have said

    overestimate the powers…

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  82. biz says:
    @trev006
    It's getting to the point where the President will probably be able to make FBI about as welcome in "flyover" country as the IRS is in backwoods West Virginia.

    If he wanted, he could put even more pressure on competent police officers in diverse cities, too...

    welcome in “flyover” country as the IRS is in backwoods West Virginia.

    What percentage of people in backwoods WV actually pay any federal income taxes? Nationwide it is only 53%, so in one of America’s poorest areas it must be way less than half. So probably they don’t mind the IRS so much.

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    That's not the tax a WV hillbilly is concerned with. When the "revenooers" come to investigate the sales of moonshine without a tax stamp, however...

    As Heinlein once wrote, strong drink may cause one to shoot at the tax man...and miss!

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  83. Olorin says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

    We no longer live in a subtle age, Dave.

    Courting has been replaced by “Game”/numales and sluts.

    You hear “fuck” used in business meetings now.

    The “MTV edit”–45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial–is the standard.

    Popular music is scientifically engineered to grab the specific attention of specific marketing-research-tested-and-demonstrated audience slices.

    Religion is hellfire and immivasion. Spirituality is a book tour/resort retreat/cruise.

    NYT’s propaganda has to claim the attention of their chosen audience slice that by definition is the loudest, twitchiest, most novelty-demanding information fashionistas.

    What intrigues me is that their noise may be subtly turning people against the noise.

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    "The “MTV edit”–45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial–is the standard."
     
    A bit of an exaggeration, but not by much. But you are seeing a lot more stabilisation, which is something the Millenials and Gen X didn't do much because they didn't have the scratch to buy the steadicams.
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  84. @candid_observer
    I have to suspect that the left is now preparing to stop what it most fears: a Special Counsel devoted to uncovering the abuses by so-called law-enforcement and other agencies, such as the State Department, in the Obama administration.

    They have to have some argument that such a Special Counsel would, for some reason, be an outrage, despite the ample evidence of real, not faked up, crimes being committed.

    How will they try to do so, given that a Special Counsel on "Russia Collusion" was appointed based on "evidence" that is so obviously ginned up?

    As we already see with the response to the memo, one can never predict the ways, or underestimate the powers, of hypocrisy, when only hypocrisy will save you.

    Never underestimate the ability of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After hearing the comments of Cuck-Tease Trey Gowdy, who talks a great game but never pursues his brilliant interrogations to prosecution and closure, it is easy to see that there is a non-trivial probability there will not be a second special prosecutor to cover the FBI and DOJ, and it is possible the IG investigation will yield a couple firings, but no jail time.

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    Gowdy has used his hearings to get attention for himself, but he admitted in an interview last year that those hearings are pointless. He's never had the power to indict anyone, at least since he became a Congresstwit. That's probably why he's quitting to go back to his old job.

    Gowdy is a career prosecutor which, to me, makes him the lowest form of life in government.
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  85. @Olorin
    We no longer live in a subtle age, Dave.

    Courting has been replaced by "Game"/numales and sluts.

    You hear "fuck" used in business meetings now.

    The "MTV edit"--45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial--is the standard.

    Popular music is scientifically engineered to grab the specific attention of specific marketing-research-tested-and-demonstrated audience slices.

    Religion is hellfire and immivasion. Spirituality is a book tour/resort retreat/cruise.

    NYT's propaganda has to claim the attention of their chosen audience slice that by definition is the loudest, twitchiest, most novelty-demanding information fashionistas.

    What intrigues me is that their noise may be subtly turning people against the noise.

    “The “MTV edit”–45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial–is the standard.”

    A bit of an exaggeration, but not by much. But you are seeing a lot more stabilisation, which is something the Millenials and Gen X didn’t do much because they didn’t have the scratch to buy the steadicams.

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    Funny thing: Sting & the Police made an explicit point of rebelling against this MTV business of spastic cutting by using long takes and slow dissolves in their video for "Every Breath You Take". That was 35 years ago already.
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  86. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Shouldn't your post be in the Enoch Powell thread? But thanks anyway, though I haven't watched the video, I've never heard of Hardy Amies even though I've spent some time on Savile Row. That's what I get for hanging out at Gieves. I appreciate the education.

    Stop and Frisk Donald Trump.

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  87. @Stealth
    It doesn't surprise me - they've flip flopped on law enforcement before. Remember when conservatives began asserting themselves back in 2010? Liberals feigned concern that anti-government types would start killing cops. The foremost reason I would love to infiltrate a liberal organization is to discover the means by which they quickly get everyone to adopt a new position or belief. I mean, seriously, do they have meetings in which a leader tells activists or journalists what they're now supposed to think? How does that go when the new position seems to contradict the old one?

    But who can remember way back to 2016?
     
    I've said it before, and I'll repeat it until I'm no longer able to speak or write: Democrats can't remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago.

    “Democrats can’t remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago.”

    Except for slavery, Emmett Till, Jim Crow, Nixon, and George “He lied and people died” Bush.

    But of course in the mind of White Genocide Party devotees, that all happened about three hours ago.

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  88. @unit472
    Indeed, and admitting he leaked purloined and classified documents to the New York Times for the purpose of triggering a special counsel's appointment is remarkably candid but certainly not helpful to his co-conspirators Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller.

    The takeaway from the activities of Comey's FBI is that these guys felt invulnerable and why not. Hadn't they just cleared Hillary Clinton of all charges and gotten away with it.

    “Remarkably candid”! Ha ha — indeed!

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  89. BRF says:
    @fish

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions
     
    Ohs Tinys....memebr last'n night....when Lenstert "subvirted yo instit2shuns".


    Lenstert "he be'n a gentel and kind lover" Pitzzs

    I hope someone is recording these Fishisms. LOL

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    Indeed, that one was pretty good. At this rate I think perhaps the two of them should get a room, or at least we should have their back-and-forth posts preserved as you suggest.
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  90. Alden says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Whiskey wrote:

    In related news, Drudge has various stories that the FBI has “had it up to here” with Donald Trump is just about ready (real soon now guys!) to arrest him and charge him with something, contempt of Fed, or whatever. They’ve put him “on notice” that they’ve been around since 1908 and will indeed “get him.”
     
    Well... when I was a kid my great uncle was in the FBI. A wonderful guy. I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s. My step-mom has been good friends for over fifty years with a CIA operative. Multiple friends and family have been in the military.

    What you're saying Drudge is reporting does not sound like what I know of the FBI, the ordinary flunkies working for the Intelligence Community, law enforcement, or the military.

    Maybe my knowledge is just out of date. Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.

    But, somehow I do not think so. My guess is that the rot is still at the top, and that most of the rank-and-file are still Americans. We'll see.

    (By the way, isn't Drudge part of Conservatism, Inc. Is he a reliable source on matters relating to Trump?)

    50 years of ferocious affirmative action and the left HAS taken over a the government agencies including the FBI.

    Government employee Whites usually have a record of anti White college activism and then a few years in anti White non profits before they get the government job.

    That’s why the Jews got rid of the written tests and allowed volunteer activities to substitute for real paid experience.

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  91. Alden says:
    @Stealth
    It doesn't surprise me - they've flip flopped on law enforcement before. Remember when conservatives began asserting themselves back in 2010? Liberals feigned concern that anti-government types would start killing cops. The foremost reason I would love to infiltrate a liberal organization is to discover the means by which they quickly get everyone to adopt a new position or belief. I mean, seriously, do they have meetings in which a leader tells activists or journalists what they're now supposed to think? How does that go when the new position seems to contradict the old one?

    But who can remember way back to 2016?
     
    I've said it before, and I'll repeat it until I'm no longer able to speak or write: Democrats can't remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago.

    The brain of a liberal is like a sink. Liberal central control opens the plug and drains out last week’s propaganda. When the sink is empty, liberal central control closes the plug and turns on the faucet and fills the empty sink with the latest propaganda.

    NYSlimes pretends that the FBI is not part of the executive branch.

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  92. @Stealth
    It doesn't surprise me - they've flip flopped on law enforcement before. Remember when conservatives began asserting themselves back in 2010? Liberals feigned concern that anti-government types would start killing cops. The foremost reason I would love to infiltrate a liberal organization is to discover the means by which they quickly get everyone to adopt a new position or belief. I mean, seriously, do they have meetings in which a leader tells activists or journalists what they're now supposed to think? How does that go when the new position seems to contradict the old one?

    But who can remember way back to 2016?
     
    I've said it before, and I'll repeat it until I'm no longer able to speak or write: Democrats can't remember anything that happened more than six weeks ago.

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    The sheeple video is good fun, but seriously, in reply to Stealth's comment:

    There is a property of nature referred to as "emergence". I think it's likely that we see the left coordinating so quickly because of their dominance of so many institutions like the media, which dominance effectly increases the number of connections in their networks. Compare to iSteve readers, who only have one node--Unz.com--to communicate through.

    Also, the message is easy (simplistic) and non-speculative. You can imagine if the Democratic party's propaganda were managed by SSC, they'd spend weeks debating before resoonding to events.

    It's important to remember, however, that the same phenomenon could happen on the right.
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  93. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "I think we needed Hoover"

    What 'we' are you referring to? The American people (we) needed Hoover and his FBI like you might need a pine cone between your butt cheeks while you're out for a morning run.

    "Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils."

    I didn't know that big brother was leasing three evils. Maybe you meant to type "lesser". If so, maybe I'm just misreading everything you're claiming. It seems that you're claiming that 'we' need a police state in order to protect us from a menace ( the presence of Muslim invaders) that could be removed by simple legislation.

    Of course, the legislation needed won't be forthcoming because of the way Hoover helped destroy the ability of Congress members to actually address real problems by making all of them afraid of being blackmailed by his secret police. In fact, that is the effect that having a secret police agency like the FBI has had on representative government. Congress is an easily controlled creature, thanks to Hoover.

    That is Hoover's real legacy, not some imaginary scenario in which he saved us all from communism.

    Congress isn’t controlled by the FBI or any government police state. Congress is now controlled by AIPAC, a billion dollar non profit unregistered agency of a foreign government.

    Blackmail is no longer needed. AIPAC finds potential Congress as college freshman and recruits them. AIPAC brings them along in their careers and gets them into congress and keeps them there.

    If the critters dare dissent on any issue, a new AIPAC critter is quickly found to replace the dissenter in the next election

    Think I’ll stop calling them Congress critters and call them AIPAC critters from now on.

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    Congress is now controlled by AIPAC
     
    Correction: Congress is controlled by the people who control AIPAC.
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  94. @Chrisnonymous
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQw21ntR64

    The sheeple video is good fun, but seriously, in reply to Stealth’s comment:

    There is a property of nature referred to as “emergence”. I think it’s likely that we see the left coordinating so quickly because of their dominance of so many institutions like the media, which dominance effectly increases the number of connections in their networks. Compare to iSteve readers, who only have one node–Unz.com–to communicate through.

    Also, the message is easy (simplistic) and non-speculative. You can imagine if the Democratic party’s propaganda were managed by SSC, they’d spend weeks debating before resoonding to events.

    It’s important to remember, however, that the same phenomenon could happen on the right.

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  95. @Almost Missouri

    what, praytell, have the Democrats been doing for over a year now, if not “tearing at the credibility” of the executive branch of government...?
     
    You are right of course.

    On the recent Nunes Memo Open Thread, there was some consensus that the Memo's release on Friday morning was to allow time over the weekend for a response to be calibrated. I think we are now seeing the Left's first attempt at a response: "The President's Unparalleled War on Law Enforcement" lol. The fact that it is pretty much the opposite of the truth is irrelevant for megaphone/propaganda purposes. As history shows, and Dalrymple explains, the less the Leftist propaganda conforms to reality, the better (for them).

    Maybe by Monday morning they will have come up with something better, but judging by how long they have run with the facially absurd Russians-Hacked-the-Election!!1!!1!* meme, I doubt it.

    *Which incidentally is also at stake in the Nunes Memo, so now the Left has to double-down to salvage their original ridiculous bet, throwing even worse propaganda after bad, as it were.

    throwing even worse propaganda after bad, as it were.

    I like that one.

    One of the incredible things about this meme is the conflation of “law enforcement” with a federal agency.

    Trump should point out that the Democrats are so disconnected from the country and focused on beltway politics that they think law enforcement is something unitary run from DOJ.

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  96. The partisan aspect of all this is obscuring the fact that the FBI and DOJ need to be gutted.

    The problems with large personnel changes make correcting these institutions difficult. But if you don’t assume that the future FBI/DOJ have to do the same/as many jobs as the current ones, it becomes much easier to clean house.

    Trump should try to break up, re-arrange, and down-size agencies.

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    The civil rights for all but Whites division of the DOJ needs to be eliminated and everyone who ever worked for it sent to federal prison for violating the civil rights of White Americans.
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  97. lavoisier says: • Website
    @guest
    The headline-writer is dyslexic. He meant: "Law Enforcement's Unparalleled War on the President."

    By the way, the DOJ is confirmed for crying out in pain as they strike you.

    The NYT continues to declare itself the enemy of justice and truth.

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  98. Dr. Doom says:

    The Carlos Slim Fishpaper/Bird Cage Liner has warned that The Donald has abrogated his responsibility as a member of The Billionaire’s Boys Club and should adopt the Akhenatan jr no policing, room to destroy policies that have improved the long term prospects of Baltimore by reducing criminally prone populations at a rate similar to the Pol Pot useful idiot liquidation of Cambodia.
    Its shocking that he ignores past policies that have proven themselves, they said.

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  99. Issac says:
    @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    The subversive element is the diaspora. The violence they’d more than happily farm out to anyone with a pulse, muslims all the better since they encourage the nihilistic neocon gentiles to give over even more to foreign intervention on our behalf. And it really is nothing new.

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  100. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    …And what we found at Nuremberg was high ranking officers completely baffled by the death camps narrative. After one long morning in court of Soviet reports of Nazi genocide, one of the defendants turned to Goering, stupefied, and asked if any of that stuff could be true. Goering told him no, of course not.

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  101. Russ says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Since when is the FBI one of the country's"most important institutions"?

    There is a word for a country built around police institutions.

    Police State.

    “Since when is the FBI one of the country’s”most important institutions”?”

    Especially when it had just been the Federal Bureau of Matters less than two years ago.

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  102. Russ says:
    @unit472
    Indeed, and admitting he leaked purloined and classified documents to the New York Times for the purpose of triggering a special counsel's appointment is remarkably candid but certainly not helpful to his co-conspirators Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller.

    The takeaway from the activities of Comey's FBI is that these guys felt invulnerable and why not. Hadn't they just cleared Hillary Clinton of all charges and gotten away with it.

    Hope the Flynn family sues Comey into penury.

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  103. @Jack Hanson
    The thing I've been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you'd have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statute agency trying to usurp the elected government.

    Then you have that Mudd fellow standing up and saying the FBI will "get" Trump, seemingly not realising how this underlines everything that has been said in the Nunes memo. What the hell is going on?

    Mudd really stepped in it on CNN with that comment. He keeps on appearing there, apparently thinking that he’s immune because he’s appearing on TV. That kind of arrogance is usually the province of such bulletproof characters as Senators. Mudd, a minor spear carrier, could easily wind up in prison by attracting attention to his existence with his loud mouth.

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    Mudd of course is a former CIA analyst, with all the glorious HUMINT incompetence that such a credential usually entails. Not surprising then that these fellows don’t seem to know their place.
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  104. @George
    assault on law enforcement ... unlike anything seen in modern America.

    Ha ha the glorified interns hired as 'reporters' (really commentators) barely understand what the words they use mean. Ze added the word 'modern' for emphasis rather than meaning. What incident in 'ancient' America was ze referring to that Trump superseded? The Whiskey Rebellion? Or when President Lincoln sent the Army of the Potomac to arrest President Davis?

    I used the pronoun ze because the times needed three people to write that thing, and one was apparently an andro-American.

    I would use that pronoun in reference to Lindsey Graham, but I’m not sure that Ze isn’t a Qe.

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  105. @Prof. Woland
    Part of the end game for Trump and the Republicans must be to take down at least a couple of the big fish at the FBI who were the kingpins and to get complete confessions out of them. The Democrats are so deep in denial and the MSM so complicit that this wound can never heal until there is a reckoning.

    The Nuremberg trials were not held because we had to find out if the Nazis were guilty. It was so future generations would hear the truth from the mouths of those most responsible so they could not deny it either.

    We will never find the truth in Clinton, Comey, Lynch, Holder, or Obama. I also don't have a great yen to seem them behind bars, in fact it makes me ashamed and uncomfortable. But if the truth does not will out, then using the police for political purposes will be the new normal and our Republic will be at great risk.

    I wouldn’t be bothered at all to see Comey, Mueller, Clinton and Obama imprisoned. Using police for political purposes has been the norm for much of US history. Ordinary citizens were always the targets. It’s just that this is the first time politicians and government hacks stand a chance of being held to account for it, probably because politicians and government hacks were the targets this time.

    If the evidence showed that only some ordinary, unknown taxpayer was being victimized, there wouldn’t have been any memo to release.

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    I am more worried about the fact that 50% of the country is delusional and cannot understand or acknowledge that this is a problem. One reason the country could live with Nixon not going to prison is that the truth was a far worse punishment. Putting him in prison would have just made a martyr out of him and caused the Republicans seek revenge. Instead, they learned their lesson and ate crow which is what they needed to do.

    Back in the 1970's, Nixon's humiliation was America's. The country was not so divided and both sides learned a lesson. Now, the left is completely insane and it is backed up by a media that feeds it. They are not learning their lesson.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred. I think what needs to happen is that C level FBI hacks such as McCabe, or Stryok, Rosenstein, or Ohr, need to fall on the sword for the good of the country and not just to save their skin. Hillary Clinton will never spend a day in prison but she will go down in herstory as one of the biggest POS ever, male or female. Obama's legacy will just stay in purgatory until the truth comes out which might be never. It will go to his grave with him like his college admission records.
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  106. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @guest
    The headline-writer is dyslexic. He meant: "Law Enforcement's Unparalleled War on the President."

    By the way, the DOJ is confirmed for crying out in pain as they strike you.

    The Deep State bleats through the New York Times as it disenfranchises you.

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  107. @The Alarmist
    Never underestimate the ability of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After hearing the comments of Cuck-Tease Trey Gowdy, who talks a great game but never pursues his brilliant interrogations to prosecution and closure, it is easy to see that there is a non-trivial probability there will not be a second special prosecutor to cover the FBI and DOJ, and it is possible the IG investigation will yield a couple firings, but no jail time.

    Gowdy has used his hearings to get attention for himself, but he admitted in an interview last year that those hearings are pointless. He’s never had the power to indict anyone, at least since he became a Congresstwit. That’s probably why he’s quitting to go back to his old job.

    Gowdy is a career prosecutor which, to me, makes him the lowest form of life in government.

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    Gowdy was neutered by the leadership. If Gowdy had channeled his public-bluster showmanship and bolstered goodwill with so-called Tea Party Conservatives by making the talk circuit with the likes of Limbaugh and Levin, he might have given Ryan a good running for Speaker. In that respect, he is low ambition, but most prosecutors live comfortable lives.
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  108. @Mike Sylwester
    President Trump has been dealing with a conspiratorial group of officials in the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation. Key members of the group specialized in counter-intelligence operations against Russia.

    Several years ago, FBI counter-intelligence initiated surveillance of Carter Page, an American citizen who had lived in and was doing business in Russia. To authorize this surveillance, DOJ/FBI obtained a warrant under FISA Title VII. In that status, Page was considered to be a US person who was being subjected to contacts from the Russian Intelligence service, which might be developing him to be recruited to become an agent.

    As time passed and the FBI surveillance of Page continued into early 2016, he formally became an adviser to the campaign staff of Donald Trump. Because of his experience in and with Russia, Page interacted with Trump associates who were dealing with political issues involving Russia.

    In mid-2016, when Trump was becoming the Republican Party's nominee, the DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence officials in that conspiratorial group began developing a plot to accuse Trump of dealing secretly with the Russian government.

    In order to collect better information about dealings between the Russian government and Trump's associates, the conspirators in DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence wanted to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up Title I. In the latter status, Page would be considered to have become an active agent of the Russian Intelligence service. In that status, his interactions and communications as an adviser to Trump's campaign staff would be considered to be his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump's associates in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    Therefore, the FBI would be authorized under FISA to capture all of Page's communications -- in the future, present and past -- with any US persons. Furthermore, the FBI would be authorized to study those persons' subsequent communications with other US persons.

    In order to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the DOJ/FBI conspirators needed some plausible evidence to convince a FISA judge that Page had become an agent of the Russian Intelligence service. That evidence was provided by the company Fusion GPS, which had been hired by Hillary Clinton's campaign staff.

    It is likely that Fusion GPS was informed that its research product would be very highly valued if it included plausible information that Page had been recruited by the Russian Intelligence service. Of course, Fusion GPS subsequently delivered a dossier that included such information about Page.

    Then DOJ/FBI packaged that information into an application to a FISA judge to elevate Page from Title VII to Title I. The FISA judge approved that application on October 21, 2016. Now the FBI was authorized to capture all of agent Page's communications in the future, present and past.

    A major purpose in the DOJ/FBI conspiratorial group's capturing of such communications was to leak derived information to Trump-hating journalists. Page's communications with Trump's associates about matters involving Russia would be analyzed, and tidbits that might incriminate Trump's associates would be leaked to journalists. In this way, the public would be manipulated into suspecting that Trump was dealing criminally with Russia.

    When Rod Rosenstein went to the White House to complain about the House committee’s memorandum, he obtained one change in the memorandum. It’s likely that Rosenstein’s change was to remove from the memorandum any information that Carter Page had been surveilled by the FBI for several years before October 21, 2016, under FISA’s Title VII.

    This removal creates in the public a false impression that the Fusion dossier was merely part of the information that was provided to the FISA judge in order to START surveillance of Page.

    In fact, however, the Fusion dossier provided information to ELEVATE Page’s FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I. In other words, the dossier convinced the FISA judge that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT of the Russian Intelligence service.

    Since DOJ/FBI elevated Page to the status of AGENT, the FBI could treat all of Pages’s communications — in the future, present and past — as his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from US persons in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    —–

    Because the public has been misled to believe that surveillance merely STARTED on October 21, 2016, the Deep State will release and leak all available information indicating that there were good grounds to START surveilling him, because he was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    The Deep State is diverting the public from discussing the key issue — that Page’s FISA status was not STARTED, but rather was ELEVATED and that he was henceforth characterized as an AGENT, because of the dossier.

    —–

    Below are questions that the public should discuss and that the US Government should answer.

    * When (start and end) was Carter Page surveilled by the FBI under FISA’s Title VII?

    * What kind of incriminating evidence is normally required to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * Is the DOJ/FBI supposed to provide exculpatory information to an FISA judge when applying to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * What additional investigative methods are allowed to the FBI after a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * After a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I, then how does that affect the privacy of a person who happens to communicate with this alleged agent of the foreign Intelligence service.

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    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy, otherwise why would Comey be so overtly contemptuous of the circumstances? Comey isn't worried this will land on him. Why is that?

    Yes, I do not expect you to be able to answer those questions. And maybe the corruptors will win this round. It took 70 years for the Soviets to collapse, and the Chinese show no signs of collapse.

    OTOH Trump ripped the bandage off. And that is altogether for the good.
    , @Mike Sylwester
    Carter Page was not an important person in Donald Trump's campaign staff during the 2016 election race, but he was a person who was likely to be communicating and interacting with Trump's associates on issues involving Russia. Page had lived in and done business with Russia for many years, and he was included in the campaign staff as an expert about Russia.

    After DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence used the Fusion dossier to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FBI was authorized to treat him as an agent of the Russian Intelligence service who was trying to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump's associates inside and outside the campaign staff.

    -----

    It is likely -- although the public still has no evidence -- that DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence guided Page into situations in which his communications with Trump's associates might be interpreted as incriminating Trump. In other words, it's likely that Page was manipulated by agent-provocateurs.

    An analogous example was the incident in which a meeting was arranged between several Trump associates (Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, etc.) and several Fusion associates (Natalya Veselnitskaya, etc.). Probably this meeting was recorded secretly for DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence. The meeting was arranged because some of the talk there might be interpreted as Trump's associates colluding with Russian agents.

    DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence's primary purpose of recording such talk was to leak details tendentiously to the mass media. A secondary purpose would be that it eventually might be used as evidence in criminal proceedings against Trump's associates and in impeachment proceedings against Trump himself.

    In the case of the Veselnitskaya meeting, the FBI had a FISA warrant to record all communications of Michael Flynn, who participated in the meeting.

    A SonofNewo video titled "Susan Rice Confirms: Trump Tower Wiretapped by FBI" ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDJDoLjGMKs

    ... provides compelling evidence that the FBI was authorized to record Flynn's participation in the Veselnitskaya meeting and that the meeting was arranged in order to provoke talk incriminating Trump's associates.

    It is likely that provocative meetings were arranged by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence likewise for Carter Page.

    -----

    Of course, Page was not an agent of the Russian Intelligence service, and DOJ/FBI knew that he was not an agent. However, DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence recognized that he was well placed to communicate with Trump's associates about issues involving Russia.

    DOJ/FBI already had, for several years, authorization to investigate Page under Title VII. With a little more information, Page's FISA status could be elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I. That extra information was obtained by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence from Fusion GPS's dossier.

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  109. Thomas says:

    It’s worth saying that current news around the President notwithstanding, the fibbies should naturally be expected to be the kind of law enforcement liberal Democrats would like, if they have to like any. They’re typically liberal arts- and often law school-educated federal bureaucrats who mostly work indoors, none of which is typical for law enforcement, and their targets are almost certainly significantly more likely to be white than the average criminal suspect in the U.S.

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  110. @slumber_j
    Off-topic: I'd like to know more about Enoch Powell's good friend, this couturier Hardy Amies:

    https://youtu.be/dc26aTCwyYM?t=617

    Interesting fellow:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Amies

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ratweek

    Fun facts:

    - Personal life
    - Initially discreet about his homosexuality, Amies became more candid in his old age; and, when speaking of Sir Norman Hartnell, another renowned dressmaker to the Queen, he commented: “It’s quite simple. He was a silly old queen and I’m a clever old queen”.

    - [...] Amies was an integral part of Operation Ratweek, an assassination project developed by SOE to eliminate double agents and Nazi sympathizers in Belgium. In 2000, a BBC 2 documentary entitled Secret Agent named Amies as one of the men who helped to plan the murder of dozens of Nazi collaborators, but Amies disclaimed all knowledge of the matter.[6]

    - Hardy Amies was quirky, yet conservative; for example, having his British Army uniform tailored on Savile Row. Years later, Hardy recalled that Kim Philby was in his mess; and, on being asked what the infamous spy was like, Hardy quipped, ‘He was always trying to get information out of me—most significantly the name of my tailor’.

    Queers. They don’t mak’em anymore like they used too. RIP.

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  111. MG says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Sara Carter reported a couple days ago that Strzok and Page openly planned to violate the requirement to have their work-related communications stored:

    Strzok: “Hot damn. I’m happy to pilot that…we get around our security/monitoring issues?”

    Page: “No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently, the requirement to capture texts came from omb, but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we.”
     
    (The rest of the exchange at the link I provided is also enlightening.) What makes this actually funny is that FBI agents are not only planning on breaking the rules, but they are planning it on devices that they know are being monitored and archived!

    It's like one of those self-referential logic puzzles ("This statement is a lie"): they are planning to evade being recorded but they are doing it on devices they know are being recorded.

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid? Do FBI agents have no sense at all of how to have a private conversation when they are planning to violate the rules?

    The only way this can be explained is – they were certain Hillary was going to win.

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    They weren't certain, because remember they had an insurance policy.

    But they were pretty sure.
    , @Anonymous
    Daresay you are right, and it speaks volumes.
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  112. @Jack Hanson
    The thing I've been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you'd have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statute agency trying to usurp the elected government.

    Then you have that Mudd fellow standing up and saying the FBI will "get" Trump, seemingly not realising how this underlines everything that has been said in the Nunes memo. What the hell is going on?

    What the hell is going on?

    Trump called bullshit on their dishonesty, and the estabbers have panicked. I think the adage is “when in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.”

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  113. Dan Hayes says:
    @NickG

    Thatcher was effusive in praising Powell but I have a vague recollection that she was underhanded in some of her treatment of him. Any knowledgeable UR commentator care to comment on this?
     
    I'm a 57 year old Brit who lived through this in Blighty.

    Powell was either effectively sacked (fired) by the then Tory leader Edward Heath or resigned over the EU (then the EEC - European Economic Community), likely some combination therin. Thatcher displaced Heath as Tory leader in 1975 whilst the Conservative party were in opposition. Labour's Harold Wilson was - at the time - prime minister. Margret Thatcher became Prime Minister in the 1979 general election with the Tory win, replacing the rather dull Labour prime minister James Callaghan, who himself had replaced Wilson.

    Powell joined the Northern Ireland Ulster Unionist and won the seat in South Down in the 1974 general election. Powell had recommended people vote Labour, as at the time they were anti the EEC. This caused some friction with many Tories.

    The man was utterly honest and as straight as an arrow. He was brilliant but ultimately stymied by clunky social skills, his 'otherwise' demeanour and his utter honesty. He did however have a special connection with the British blue collar worker, who sensed his honesty and that he had their interests at heart. Much the same can be said of the contemporary Jacob Rees Mogg, but of course Mogg is upper class, with silky smooth social graces, Powell was lower middle class - his folks were school teachers,

    NickG,

    Thanks for your response.

    You noted Powell’s special connection with British blue collar workers. This was vividly shown in the Enoch Powell Documentary with London longshoremen fervently marching in support.

    Your linking Powell to Jacob Rees Mogg was very interesting. I know little about British politics but I do appreciate JMR’s skillful skewering of sundry politicos and pontificating BBC windbags.

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  114. @Mike Sylwester
    When Rod Rosenstein went to the White House to complain about the House committee's memorandum, he obtained one change in the memorandum. It's likely that Rosenstein's change was to remove from the memorandum any information that Carter Page had been surveilled by the FBI for several years before October 21, 2016, under FISA's Title VII.

    This removal creates in the public a false impression that the Fusion dossier was merely part of the information that was provided to the FISA judge in order to START surveillance of Page.

    In fact, however, the Fusion dossier provided information to ELEVATE Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I. In other words, the dossier convinced the FISA judge that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT of the Russian Intelligence service.

    Since DOJ/FBI elevated Page to the status of AGENT, the FBI could treat all of Pages's communications -- in the future, present and past -- as his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from US persons in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    -----

    Because the public has been misled to believe that surveillance merely STARTED on October 21, 2016, the Deep State will release and leak all available information indicating that there were good grounds to START surveilling him, because he was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    The Deep State is diverting the public from discussing the key issue -- that Page's FISA status was not STARTED, but rather was ELEVATED and that he was henceforth characterized as an AGENT, because of the dossier.

    -----

    Below are questions that the public should discuss and that the US Government should answer.

    * When (start and end) was Carter Page surveilled by the FBI under FISA's Title VII?

    * What kind of incriminating evidence is normally required to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * Is the DOJ/FBI supposed to provide exculpatory information to an FISA judge when applying to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * What additional investigative methods are allowed to the FBI after a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * After a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I, then how does that affect the privacy of a person who happens to communicate with this alleged agent of the foreign Intelligence service.

    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy, otherwise why would Comey be so overtly contemptuous of the circumstances? Comey isn’t worried this will land on him. Why is that?

    Yes, I do not expect you to be able to answer those questions. And maybe the corruptors will win this round. It took 70 years for the Soviets to collapse, and the Chinese show no signs of collapse.

    OTOH Trump ripped the bandage off. And that is altogether for the good.

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    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy
     
    The strategy includes the following elements:

    * Remove from the House committee's memorandum all information that Page already was being investigated for several years by the FBI under FISA Title VII.

    * Mislead the public into talking about whether the FBI had grounds to START investigating whether Page was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    * Divert the public from talking about whether the Fusion dossier provided sufficient evidence to ELEVATE Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I -- in other works, whether the dossier proved that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT.

    * Drag Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller's "investigation" out until the 2018 elections.

    * While Mueller's "investigation" is being dragged out to the 2018 election, DOJ and FBI use his "investigation" as an excuse to refuse to provide relevant information to the Republican-majority US Congress.

    * Hope that the Democrats win control of Congress in the 2018 election.

    * If the Democrats do win control, then Mueller will be able to conclude his "investigation" with a whitewash of the DOJ and FBI.
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  115. @Mike Sylwester
    When Rod Rosenstein went to the White House to complain about the House committee's memorandum, he obtained one change in the memorandum. It's likely that Rosenstein's change was to remove from the memorandum any information that Carter Page had been surveilled by the FBI for several years before October 21, 2016, under FISA's Title VII.

    This removal creates in the public a false impression that the Fusion dossier was merely part of the information that was provided to the FISA judge in order to START surveillance of Page.

    In fact, however, the Fusion dossier provided information to ELEVATE Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I. In other words, the dossier convinced the FISA judge that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT of the Russian Intelligence service.

    Since DOJ/FBI elevated Page to the status of AGENT, the FBI could treat all of Pages's communications -- in the future, present and past -- as his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from US persons in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    -----

    Because the public has been misled to believe that surveillance merely STARTED on October 21, 2016, the Deep State will release and leak all available information indicating that there were good grounds to START surveilling him, because he was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    The Deep State is diverting the public from discussing the key issue -- that Page's FISA status was not STARTED, but rather was ELEVATED and that he was henceforth characterized as an AGENT, because of the dossier.

    -----

    Below are questions that the public should discuss and that the US Government should answer.

    * When (start and end) was Carter Page surveilled by the FBI under FISA's Title VII?

    * What kind of incriminating evidence is normally required to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * Is the DOJ/FBI supposed to provide exculpatory information to an FISA judge when applying to elevate a subject from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * What additional investigative methods are allowed to the FBI after a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I?

    * After a subject has been elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I, then how does that affect the privacy of a person who happens to communicate with this alleged agent of the foreign Intelligence service.

    Carter Page was not an important person in Donald Trump’s campaign staff during the 2016 election race, but he was a person who was likely to be communicating and interacting with Trump’s associates on issues involving Russia. Page had lived in and done business with Russia for many years, and he was included in the campaign staff as an expert about Russia.

    After DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence used the Fusion dossier to elevate Page’s FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FBI was authorized to treat him as an agent of the Russian Intelligence service who was trying to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump’s associates inside and outside the campaign staff.

    —–

    It is likely — although the public still has no evidence — that DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence guided Page into situations in which his communications with Trump’s associates might be interpreted as incriminating Trump. In other words, it’s likely that Page was manipulated by agent-provocateurs.

    An analogous example was the incident in which a meeting was arranged between several Trump associates (Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, etc.) and several Fusion associates (Natalya Veselnitskaya, etc.). Probably this meeting was recorded secretly for DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence. The meeting was arranged because some of the talk there might be interpreted as Trump’s associates colluding with Russian agents.

    DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence’s primary purpose of recording such talk was to leak details tendentiously to the mass media. A secondary purpose would be that it eventually might be used as evidence in criminal proceedings against Trump’s associates and in impeachment proceedings against Trump himself.

    In the case of the Veselnitskaya meeting, the FBI had a FISA warrant to record all communications of Michael Flynn, who participated in the meeting.

    A SonofNewo video titled “Susan Rice Confirms: Trump Tower Wiretapped by FBI” …

    … provides compelling evidence that the FBI was authorized to record Flynn’s participation in the Veselnitskaya meeting and that the meeting was arranged in order to provoke talk incriminating Trump’s associates.

    It is likely that provocative meetings were arranged by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence likewise for Carter Page.

    —–

    Of course, Page was not an agent of the Russian Intelligence service, and DOJ/FBI knew that he was not an agent. However, DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence recognized that he was well placed to communicate with Trump’s associates about issues involving Russia.

    DOJ/FBI already had, for several years, authorization to investigate Page under Title VII. With a little more information, Page’s FISA status could be elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I. That extra information was obtained by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence from Fusion GPS’s dossier.

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    Even if Carter Page never communicated about Russia after DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence elevated his FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FISA warrant was useful for discrediting Donald Trump.

    Although FISA warrants are supposed to be secret, the fact that DOJ/FBI obtained FISA warrants to investigate interactions between Trump's associates and the Russian Government was leaked to journalists repeatedly during 2016 and 2017.

    Of course, the leakers were DOJ/FBI officials working in counter-intelligence.

    The reason for leaking the fact that FISA warrants had been obtained was the principle:


    Where there's smoke, there's fire.
     
    The fact that DOJ/FBI had obtained a FISA warrant proved that DOJ/FBI was investigating criminal interactions between Trump's associates and the Russian Government, which proved that such interactions indeed existed.

    Where there's smoke, there's fire.
     
    Furthermore, some of the leaks indicated that the subject of the FISA warrant was specifically Carter Page.

    Probably the US Government eventually have to pay Page several million dollars as compensation for:

    * accusing Page of being an agent of the Russian Intelligence service

    * leaking to the mass media that Page therefore was the subject of a FISA warrant

    * doing so not because Page had done anything wrong but rather in order to cause political problems for Donald Trump.

    , @guest
    Laymen refer to agents of foreign governments as spies. The Obama government pretended Carter Page was a spy. Nice to know.

    Meanwhile, the "dossier" was promoted by an actual foreigner: Steele, who may or may not have been a spy.

    Did anyone figure when FISA was dreamt up that secret courts would be hoodwinked into allowing one party to surveil the other near a presidential election on the pretence of a phony "dossier" vouched for by a possible foreign agent--Steele--by lying about the supposed target (at least the one for whom the illegal warrant is drawn up)--Page--by presenting him as a frickin' Russian spy? Sounds nuts.

    However, it might have been one of the secret selling points. "Hey," says the Deep State, "that could come in handy."

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  116. @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy, otherwise why would Comey be so overtly contemptuous of the circumstances? Comey isn't worried this will land on him. Why is that?

    Yes, I do not expect you to be able to answer those questions. And maybe the corruptors will win this round. It took 70 years for the Soviets to collapse, and the Chinese show no signs of collapse.

    OTOH Trump ripped the bandage off. And that is altogether for the good.

    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy

    The strategy includes the following elements:

    * Remove from the House committee’s memorandum all information that Page already was being investigated for several years by the FBI under FISA Title VII.

    * Mislead the public into talking about whether the FBI had grounds to START investigating whether Page was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    * Divert the public from talking about whether the Fusion dossier provided sufficient evidence to ELEVATE Page’s FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I — in other works, whether the dossier proved that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT.

    * Drag Robert “The FBI Whitewasher” Mueller’s “investigation” out until the 2018 elections.

    * While Mueller’s “investigation” is being dragged out to the 2018 election, DOJ and FBI use his “investigation” as an excuse to refuse to provide relevant information to the Republican-majority US Congress.

    * Hope that the Democrats win control of Congress in the 2018 election.

    * If the Democrats do win control, then Mueller will be able to conclude his “investigation” with a whitewash of the DOJ and FBI.

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    If they manage to stonewall through the '18 elections and Republicans lose the House, there are always leaks. If parts of the Deep State are on Trump's side, and I assume they are, we know they're not above such things.

    Normally Republicans don't play that way, or at least they haven't been as good at it. But these ain't normal times.
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  117. @Mike Sylwester
    Carter Page was not an important person in Donald Trump's campaign staff during the 2016 election race, but he was a person who was likely to be communicating and interacting with Trump's associates on issues involving Russia. Page had lived in and done business with Russia for many years, and he was included in the campaign staff as an expert about Russia.

    After DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence used the Fusion dossier to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FBI was authorized to treat him as an agent of the Russian Intelligence service who was trying to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump's associates inside and outside the campaign staff.

    -----

    It is likely -- although the public still has no evidence -- that DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence guided Page into situations in which his communications with Trump's associates might be interpreted as incriminating Trump. In other words, it's likely that Page was manipulated by agent-provocateurs.

    An analogous example was the incident in which a meeting was arranged between several Trump associates (Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, etc.) and several Fusion associates (Natalya Veselnitskaya, etc.). Probably this meeting was recorded secretly for DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence. The meeting was arranged because some of the talk there might be interpreted as Trump's associates colluding with Russian agents.

    DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence's primary purpose of recording such talk was to leak details tendentiously to the mass media. A secondary purpose would be that it eventually might be used as evidence in criminal proceedings against Trump's associates and in impeachment proceedings against Trump himself.

    In the case of the Veselnitskaya meeting, the FBI had a FISA warrant to record all communications of Michael Flynn, who participated in the meeting.

    A SonofNewo video titled "Susan Rice Confirms: Trump Tower Wiretapped by FBI" ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDJDoLjGMKs

    ... provides compelling evidence that the FBI was authorized to record Flynn's participation in the Veselnitskaya meeting and that the meeting was arranged in order to provoke talk incriminating Trump's associates.

    It is likely that provocative meetings were arranged by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence likewise for Carter Page.

    -----

    Of course, Page was not an agent of the Russian Intelligence service, and DOJ/FBI knew that he was not an agent. However, DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence recognized that he was well placed to communicate with Trump's associates about issues involving Russia.

    DOJ/FBI already had, for several years, authorization to investigate Page under Title VII. With a little more information, Page's FISA status could be elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I. That extra information was obtained by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence from Fusion GPS's dossier.

    Even if Carter Page never communicated about Russia after DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence elevated his FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FISA warrant was useful for discrediting Donald Trump.

    Although FISA warrants are supposed to be secret, the fact that DOJ/FBI obtained FISA warrants to investigate interactions between Trump’s associates and the Russian Government was leaked to journalists repeatedly during 2016 and 2017.

    Of course, the leakers were DOJ/FBI officials working in counter-intelligence.

    The reason for leaking the fact that FISA warrants had been obtained was the principle:

    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

    The fact that DOJ/FBI had obtained a FISA warrant proved that DOJ/FBI was investigating criminal interactions between Trump’s associates and the Russian Government, which proved that such interactions indeed existed.

    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

    Furthermore, some of the leaks indicated that the subject of the FISA warrant was specifically Carter Page.

    Probably the US Government eventually have to pay Page several million dollars as compensation for:

    * accusing Page of being an agent of the Russian Intelligence service

    * leaking to the mass media that Page therefore was the subject of a FISA warrant

    * doing so not because Page had done anything wrong but rather in order to cause political problems for Donald Trump.

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  118. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    O/T

    The left won’t be satisfied with making Westerners a minority in their homelands. They are coming East Asia next.

    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2131634/why-china-and-hong-kong-must-heed-americas-immigration-debate

    The South China Morning Post, is owned by Chinese oligarch Jack Ma, founder of Amazon competitor Alibaba.

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    If China wants to dominate the 21st century, all it has to do is encourage what's happening in America and Europe, while avoiding any such thing in China.
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  119. CCZ says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Sara Carter reported a couple days ago that Strzok and Page openly planned to violate the requirement to have their work-related communications stored:

    Strzok: “Hot damn. I’m happy to pilot that…we get around our security/monitoring issues?”

    Page: “No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently, the requirement to capture texts came from omb, but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we.”
     
    (The rest of the exchange at the link I provided is also enlightening.) What makes this actually funny is that FBI agents are not only planning on breaking the rules, but they are planning it on devices that they know are being monitored and archived!

    It's like one of those self-referential logic puzzles ("This statement is a lie"): they are planning to evade being recorded but they are doing it on devices they know are being recorded.

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid? Do FBI agents have no sense at all of how to have a private conversation when they are planning to violate the rules?

    A bunch of stuff has appeared on Reddit and some “investigative” blogs about Peter P. Strzok Jr. as not just any FBI agent, but one with some interesting family and family connections. A lot of it is not fully corroborated, but information about Peter’s father and wife is verified by reliable sources and old newspaper articles.

    Peter P. Strzok’s father, Peter P. Strzok Sr. was a career US Army Corp of Engineers officer (Lt. Col.) who was stationed in Iran, retired from the military, was working in Iran (with his wife and son, future FBI agent Peter Jr. living there) as a unit-manager for Bell-Textron (who sold and maintained Iran’s 2,000 helicopters prior to the Shah’s overthrow), returned his family to Wisconsin in January 1979, traveled to Saudi Arabia, and eventually went to work for Catholic Charities Relief in Africa and Haiti, and continued to work in the field of international aid and development. [Leader Telegram, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, February 21, 1979; Green Bay Press-Gazette, August 7, 1981]

    In September 2016, he wrote a short article: 50-Year Difference In Iran, noting the transformation in Iran from American to Russian military bases.

    http://www.fayobserver.com/d8027ffd-e2a6-5ef0-be77-c43f22fb5fa6.html

    Melissa Hodgman, Peter Strzok’s Wife: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
    Peter Strzok, the top FBI agent under fire for allegedly sending anti-Donald Trump texts, is married to Melissa Hodgman, an official at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
    A family obituary confirms that Strzok is married to Hodgman, 49, who was named to her position with the SEC in October 2016.
    https://heavy.com/news/2017/12/melissa-hodgman-peter-strzok-wife-facebook-spouse/https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/who-is-peter-strzok/Published on

    Oct 14th, 2016 – The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that Melissa Hodgman has been named Associate Director in the SEC’s Enforcement Division.
    Ms. Hodgman has led the Enforcement Division’s Cross-Border Working Group, which provides expertise and assistance of matters with international actors and implications.
    Before joining the SEC staff, Ms. Hodgman worked as an associate at Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy in Washington.

    https://vigilantllc.com/melissa-hodgman-named-associate-director-in-sec-enforcement-division/

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  120. Thomas says:
    @Lot
    "the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life."

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses. They engaged in well organized campaigns of violent state subversion in Western Europe that we were spared. And where they won there were massacres of conservatives.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    When that menace disappeared, we could have dismantled the necessary evils Hoover set up. Instead we decided to import a new violent and subversive menace to our civilization, namely mass Muslim migration.

    If there is a way to have a big Muslim population and not either have Sharia, civil war, or a police state suppressing the Islamicists, no nation on our large planet has figured it out yet. Big Brother is the lessor of these three evils.

    And who was the Director of the FBI, in fact had only been Director of the FBI for a week on 9/11, who oversaw its transformation from a law enforcement agency of limited jurisdiction into the sort of pervasive secret police agency necessary to identify the “bad apples” among all those followers of the “Religion of Peace?” Why, it’s none other than the current Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.

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  121. guest says:
    @Mike Sylwester
    Carter Page was not an important person in Donald Trump's campaign staff during the 2016 election race, but he was a person who was likely to be communicating and interacting with Trump's associates on issues involving Russia. Page had lived in and done business with Russia for many years, and he was included in the campaign staff as an expert about Russia.

    After DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence used the Fusion dossier to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the FBI was authorized to treat him as an agent of the Russian Intelligence service who was trying to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump's associates inside and outside the campaign staff.

    -----

    It is likely -- although the public still has no evidence -- that DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence guided Page into situations in which his communications with Trump's associates might be interpreted as incriminating Trump. In other words, it's likely that Page was manipulated by agent-provocateurs.

    An analogous example was the incident in which a meeting was arranged between several Trump associates (Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, etc.) and several Fusion associates (Natalya Veselnitskaya, etc.). Probably this meeting was recorded secretly for DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence. The meeting was arranged because some of the talk there might be interpreted as Trump's associates colluding with Russian agents.

    DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence's primary purpose of recording such talk was to leak details tendentiously to the mass media. A secondary purpose would be that it eventually might be used as evidence in criminal proceedings against Trump's associates and in impeachment proceedings against Trump himself.

    In the case of the Veselnitskaya meeting, the FBI had a FISA warrant to record all communications of Michael Flynn, who participated in the meeting.

    A SonofNewo video titled "Susan Rice Confirms: Trump Tower Wiretapped by FBI" ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDJDoLjGMKs

    ... provides compelling evidence that the FBI was authorized to record Flynn's participation in the Veselnitskaya meeting and that the meeting was arranged in order to provoke talk incriminating Trump's associates.

    It is likely that provocative meetings were arranged by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence likewise for Carter Page.

    -----

    Of course, Page was not an agent of the Russian Intelligence service, and DOJ/FBI knew that he was not an agent. However, DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence recognized that he was well placed to communicate with Trump's associates about issues involving Russia.

    DOJ/FBI already had, for several years, authorization to investigate Page under Title VII. With a little more information, Page's FISA status could be elevated from merely Title VII up to Title I. That extra information was obtained by DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence from Fusion GPS's dossier.

    Laymen refer to agents of foreign governments as spies. The Obama government pretended Carter Page was a spy. Nice to know.

    Meanwhile, the “dossier” was promoted by an actual foreigner: Steele, who may or may not have been a spy.

    Did anyone figure when FISA was dreamt up that secret courts would be hoodwinked into allowing one party to surveil the other near a presidential election on the pretence of a phony “dossier” vouched for by a possible foreign agent–Steele–by lying about the supposed target (at least the one for whom the illegal warrant is drawn up)–Page–by presenting him as a frickin’ Russian spy? Sounds nuts.

    However, it might have been one of the secret selling points. “Hey,” says the Deep State, “that could come in handy.”

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    Nobody is saying as much, but the FISA court has for long time been accused of being a "rubber stamp." It approves something like 99.997% of all warrant applications it receives, it only ever hears from one side, its judges are possibly the only federal judges I can think of that are appointed solely by another judge (the Chief Justice) without any confirmation or other oversight, and, by virtue of the fact that it's dealing with classified information, none or almost none of what it does ever becomes public or gets challenged in court. This is despite the fact that since the Snowden revelations, it's approved things like ordering Verizon to give the NSA a daily dump of all of its phone metadata, including of calls entirely inside the U.S. between Americans, and it's a safe bet that that isn't even the least of what it's authorized.

    The only supposed safeguard in this process is that the Justice Department was supposedly adhering to a set of protocols and internal approvals to verify what it was sending, and that it was working closely with the court and its staff in drawing up its applications (though that could mean as much that it was massaging what it provided through these purely ex parte communications to make sure what they wanted approved would get through, which is hardly much of a safeguard).

    If it turns out they were giving the FISA court utter shit and getting away with it, especially in the context of surveilling a presidential campaign from the party opposing the President in power, that means that the FISA court is a rubber stamp, and its safeguards are a complete fraud. We essentially do have a police state then that can and does spy on anyone it wants with no Constitutional safeguards whatsoever.

    If this had come out before the FISA reauthorization vote a few weeks ago, it would have been a bombshell. Right now, members of Congress are going to have to feel like they've been had by the three-letter agencies (and maybe they've been spied on too), as perhaps are federal judges.

    That's the real problem now, which all the kvetching about a "war on law enforcement" is only dancing around. Take Trump out of the picture, the whole system has been relying for years on nothing more than faith in the integrity and honesty of the Justice Department and the three-letter agencies, and now that faith has been shown to have been misplaced. Those guys are going to be facing a lot more skepticism now than they used to.
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  122. guest says:
    @Mike Sylwester

    Who will ask the questions you have posed? It is almost certainly the case that the deep state has a defense-in-depth strategy
     
    The strategy includes the following elements:

    * Remove from the House committee's memorandum all information that Page already was being investigated for several years by the FBI under FISA Title VII.

    * Mislead the public into talking about whether the FBI had grounds to START investigating whether Page was being contacted and recruited by the Russian Intelligence service.

    * Divert the public from talking about whether the Fusion dossier provided sufficient evidence to ELEVATE Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I -- in other works, whether the dossier proved that Page HAD BECOME AN AGENT.

    * Drag Robert "The FBI Whitewasher" Mueller's "investigation" out until the 2018 elections.

    * While Mueller's "investigation" is being dragged out to the 2018 election, DOJ and FBI use his "investigation" as an excuse to refuse to provide relevant information to the Republican-majority US Congress.

    * Hope that the Democrats win control of Congress in the 2018 election.

    * If the Democrats do win control, then Mueller will be able to conclude his "investigation" with a whitewash of the DOJ and FBI.

    If they manage to stonewall through the ’18 elections and Republicans lose the House, there are always leaks. If parts of the Deep State are on Trump’s side, and I assume they are, we know they’re not above such things.

    Normally Republicans don’t play that way, or at least they haven’t been as good at it. But these ain’t normal times.

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  123. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.
     
    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.

    Hey! The man’s trying to tell a story here.

    ;)

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  124. @Anon
    O/T

    The left won't be satisfied with making Westerners a minority in their homelands. They are coming East Asia next.

    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2131634/why-china-and-hong-kong-must-heed-americas-immigration-debate

    The South China Morning Post, is owned by Chinese oligarch Jack Ma, founder of Amazon competitor Alibaba.

    If China wants to dominate the 21st century, all it has to do is encourage what’s happening in America and Europe, while avoiding any such thing in China.

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  125. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson
    The thing I've been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you'd have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statute agency trying to usurp the elected government.

    Then you have that Mudd fellow standing up and saying the FBI will "get" Trump, seemingly not realising how this underlines everything that has been said in the Nunes memo. What the hell is going on?

    The thing I’ve been amazed by is how the Left is trying to meme a separate but equal fourth branch of government (in the form of the DOJ/FBI) out of nothing.

    Looking at their grand pronouncements you’d have thought we were dealing with something like the judiciary and the executive butting heads, and not a statutory agency trying to usurp the elected government.

    That’s a very perceptive and frightening observation, only one word of which I edited (‘statutory’).

    Steve, this could and should be the basis of an article on its own…

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  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @BRF
    I hope someone is recording these Fishisms. LOL

    Indeed, that one was pretty good. At this rate I think perhaps the two of them should get a room, or at least we should have their back-and-forth posts preserved as you suggest.

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  127. guest says:
    @MG
    The only way this can be explained is - they were certain Hillary was going to win.

    They weren’t certain, because remember they had an insurance policy.

    But they were pretty sure.

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  128. Thomas says:
    @guest
    Laymen refer to agents of foreign governments as spies. The Obama government pretended Carter Page was a spy. Nice to know.

    Meanwhile, the "dossier" was promoted by an actual foreigner: Steele, who may or may not have been a spy.

    Did anyone figure when FISA was dreamt up that secret courts would be hoodwinked into allowing one party to surveil the other near a presidential election on the pretence of a phony "dossier" vouched for by a possible foreign agent--Steele--by lying about the supposed target (at least the one for whom the illegal warrant is drawn up)--Page--by presenting him as a frickin' Russian spy? Sounds nuts.

    However, it might have been one of the secret selling points. "Hey," says the Deep State, "that could come in handy."

    Nobody is saying as much, but the FISA court has for long time been accused of being a “rubber stamp.” It approves something like 99.997% of all warrant applications it receives, it only ever hears from one side, its judges are possibly the only federal judges I can think of that are appointed solely by another judge (the Chief Justice) without any confirmation or other oversight, and, by virtue of the fact that it’s dealing with classified information, none or almost none of what it does ever becomes public or gets challenged in court. This is despite the fact that since the Snowden revelations, it’s approved things like ordering Verizon to give the NSA a daily dump of all of its phone metadata, including of calls entirely inside the U.S. between Americans, and it’s a safe bet that that isn’t even the least of what it’s authorized.

    The only supposed safeguard in this process is that the Justice Department was supposedly adhering to a set of protocols and internal approvals to verify what it was sending, and that it was working closely with the court and its staff in drawing up its applications (though that could mean as much that it was massaging what it provided through these purely ex parte communications to make sure what they wanted approved would get through, which is hardly much of a safeguard).

    If it turns out they were giving the FISA court utter shit and getting away with it, especially in the context of surveilling a presidential campaign from the party opposing the President in power, that means that the FISA court is a rubber stamp, and its safeguards are a complete fraud. We essentially do have a police state then that can and does spy on anyone it wants with no Constitutional safeguards whatsoever.

    If this had come out before the FISA reauthorization vote a few weeks ago, it would have been a bombshell. Right now, members of Congress are going to have to feel like they’ve been had by the three-letter agencies (and maybe they’ve been spied on too), as perhaps are federal judges.

    That’s the real problem now, which all the kvetching about a “war on law enforcement” is only dancing around. Take Trump out of the picture, the whole system has been relying for years on nothing more than faith in the integrity and honesty of the Justice Department and the three-letter agencies, and now that faith has been shown to have been misplaced. Those guys are going to be facing a lot more skepticism now than they used to.

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    Steve, maybe you can add another marker to your "Democratic Trump" thesis, that the President the left calls an "orange menace" and "Hitler" is making democracy great again. Even if inadvertently and out of self-interested motives, he may be finally calling to account the secret police state of mass surveillance that both parties have allowed to grow, like a cancer in the dark, since 9/11. Bush started that process and Obama was, quite apparently, all too happy to have it continue, but Trump may go down as doing more for civil liberties than any President has in awhile.
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  129. guest says:
    @The Man From K Street

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid?
     
     
    A lot of J. Edgar Hoover/Efrem Zimbalist Jr. nostalgia on the right persists to this day to make us imagine that, at some point in a past Golden Age, the FBI was made up of elite, incorruptible "scientific" crimefighters.

    But even in Hoover's day, his genius was in Bureau PR. The agents have never been elite, but mostly just adequate: graduates of second-tier law schools and accountancy programs who would rather not have to deal with counter-intelligence or criminal "profiling" assignments, but instead build careers meeting arrest quotas in interstate car theft and spending endless hours in bank robbery stakeouts.

    Now, compare that with the old KGB, which really was made up of the "best of the best" and was a true merit-based and IQ-tested elite. No wonder their foreign agents in the US ran rings around the Feds.

    At least in Hoover’s day they were less straight-up murderous. I would take trapping Dillinger over Waco anyday.

    Plus, I prefer them going after commies, for instance, to going after the president.

    If you assume Hoover blackmailed a series of presidents, blackmail is blackmail but it’s not getting them thrown out of office or in jail.

    If you believe they helped throw Kennedy in the ground, that’s something else.

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  130. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    After all they have the technology to not only mass-spy but mass fire.
     
    Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775 started with mass fire and ended in a swarm of rolling volleys all the way back to the harbor.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Concord_Retreat.png

    Until I did the tourist trip to Concord and Lexington, I hadn’t realized how much of 19th Century American literary history is concentrated within a few miles of the 18th century battle.

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    A biography called "Hawthorne in Concord" informed me as much.

    Though I misspent part of my youth as a fan of Emerson, Hawthorne is the only one of that bunch I like (unless Jones Very counts. I forget where he's from). Down with Yankee Letters-Imperialism!

    By the way, the center of American Letters drifted from place to place based on where the long-established aristocracies were. Because, despite our democratic pretensions, that's how Higher Culture works.

    First came the Hudson River Valley (Irving, Fenimore Cooper), I guess because of the patroons. Then came Massachusetts (Emerson, Hawthorne), because of the Brahmins. Last century, Chicago and California tried, but we were by that point in the Mass Age, and it was a no-go.

    Ah, but there was the South (Faulkner, Penn Warren), which thanks to Civil War was on a delayed fuse. They dominated 20th-century American Letters, even in the opinion of academics primed to look down on them.
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  131. Thomas says:
    @Thomas
    Nobody is saying as much, but the FISA court has for long time been accused of being a "rubber stamp." It approves something like 99.997% of all warrant applications it receives, it only ever hears from one side, its judges are possibly the only federal judges I can think of that are appointed solely by another judge (the Chief Justice) without any confirmation or other oversight, and, by virtue of the fact that it's dealing with classified information, none or almost none of what it does ever becomes public or gets challenged in court. This is despite the fact that since the Snowden revelations, it's approved things like ordering Verizon to give the NSA a daily dump of all of its phone metadata, including of calls entirely inside the U.S. between Americans, and it's a safe bet that that isn't even the least of what it's authorized.

    The only supposed safeguard in this process is that the Justice Department was supposedly adhering to a set of protocols and internal approvals to verify what it was sending, and that it was working closely with the court and its staff in drawing up its applications (though that could mean as much that it was massaging what it provided through these purely ex parte communications to make sure what they wanted approved would get through, which is hardly much of a safeguard).

    If it turns out they were giving the FISA court utter shit and getting away with it, especially in the context of surveilling a presidential campaign from the party opposing the President in power, that means that the FISA court is a rubber stamp, and its safeguards are a complete fraud. We essentially do have a police state then that can and does spy on anyone it wants with no Constitutional safeguards whatsoever.

    If this had come out before the FISA reauthorization vote a few weeks ago, it would have been a bombshell. Right now, members of Congress are going to have to feel like they've been had by the three-letter agencies (and maybe they've been spied on too), as perhaps are federal judges.

    That's the real problem now, which all the kvetching about a "war on law enforcement" is only dancing around. Take Trump out of the picture, the whole system has been relying for years on nothing more than faith in the integrity and honesty of the Justice Department and the three-letter agencies, and now that faith has been shown to have been misplaced. Those guys are going to be facing a lot more skepticism now than they used to.

    Steve, maybe you can add another marker to your “Democratic Trump” thesis, that the President the left calls an “orange menace” and “Hitler” is making democracy great again. Even if inadvertently and out of self-interested motives, he may be finally calling to account the secret police state of mass surveillance that both parties have allowed to grow, like a cancer in the dark, since 9/11. Bush started that process and Obama was, quite apparently, all too happy to have it continue, but Trump may go down as doing more for civil liberties than any President has in awhile.

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    How's Trump going to get this message out, in any meaningful way? Who's to say he's not already being shadowbanned on Twitter? How would anyone except the H-1Bs running Twitter even know?

    Anything he says--even in a televised address, direct to the American people--will be presented by the MSM as more evidence of his crackpot paranoia. Why do we think the MSM have worked so hard at spreading skepticism (nay, ridicule) about his every utterance? A political genius would find it nigh-impossible to get through, and (certain observers here to the contrary) a political genius Mr Trump is not.

    Over the years, what we nowadays call the "Deep State" has lost little skirmishes here and there, but it has never, ever lost a war and it's not going to start now.

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  132. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    "The “MTV edit”–45 jump cuts in a 30-second video/TV commercial–is the standard."
     
    A bit of an exaggeration, but not by much. But you are seeing a lot more stabilisation, which is something the Millenials and Gen X didn't do much because they didn't have the scratch to buy the steadicams.

    Funny thing: Sting & the Police made an explicit point of rebelling against this MTV business of spastic cutting by using long takes and slow dissolves in their video for “Every Breath You Take”. That was 35 years ago already.

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  133. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    Congress isn’t controlled by the FBI or any government police state. Congress is now controlled by AIPAC, a billion dollar non profit unregistered agency of a foreign government.

    Blackmail is no longer needed. AIPAC finds potential Congress as college freshman and recruits them. AIPAC brings them along in their careers and gets them into congress and keeps them there.

    If the critters dare dissent on any issue, a new AIPAC critter is quickly found to replace the dissenter in the next election

    Think I’ll stop calling them Congress critters and call them AIPAC critters from now on.

    Congress is now controlled by AIPAC

    Correction: Congress is controlled by the people who control AIPAC.

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  134. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MG
    The only way this can be explained is - they were certain Hillary was going to win.

    Daresay you are right, and it speaks volumes.

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  135. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas
    Steve, maybe you can add another marker to your "Democratic Trump" thesis, that the President the left calls an "orange menace" and "Hitler" is making democracy great again. Even if inadvertently and out of self-interested motives, he may be finally calling to account the secret police state of mass surveillance that both parties have allowed to grow, like a cancer in the dark, since 9/11. Bush started that process and Obama was, quite apparently, all too happy to have it continue, but Trump may go down as doing more for civil liberties than any President has in awhile.

    How’s Trump going to get this message out, in any meaningful way? Who’s to say he’s not already being shadowbanned on Twitter? How would anyone except the H-1Bs running Twitter even know?

    Anything he says–even in a televised address, direct to the American people–will be presented by the MSM as more evidence of his crackpot paranoia. Why do we think the MSM have worked so hard at spreading skepticism (nay, ridicule) about his every utterance? A political genius would find it nigh-impossible to get through, and (certain observers here to the contrary) a political genius Mr Trump is not.

    Over the years, what we nowadays call the “Deep State” has lost little skirmishes here and there, but it has never, ever lost a war and it’s not going to start now.

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    It would be helpful if he had Congressional Republicans to help him make a case with the public.

    But even without them, Sun Tzu it--dissension, confusion, surprise, etc. As much as possible, he needs to start eliminating and moving around personnel and remolding agencies. Keeping people guessing and understaffed/overworked--fog of war stuff. Unfortunately, he probably doesn't dislike these agencies in principle and primarily sees things in their personal dimension.
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  136. Kylie says:
    @Mike Sylwester
    President Trump has been dealing with a conspiratorial group of officials in the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation. Key members of the group specialized in counter-intelligence operations against Russia.

    Several years ago, FBI counter-intelligence initiated surveillance of Carter Page, an American citizen who had lived in and was doing business in Russia. To authorize this surveillance, DOJ/FBI obtained a warrant under FISA Title VII. In that status, Page was considered to be a US person who was being subjected to contacts from the Russian Intelligence service, which might be developing him to be recruited to become an agent.

    As time passed and the FBI surveillance of Page continued into early 2016, he formally became an adviser to the campaign staff of Donald Trump. Because of his experience in and with Russia, Page interacted with Trump associates who were dealing with political issues involving Russia.

    In mid-2016, when Trump was becoming the Republican Party's nominee, the DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence officials in that conspiratorial group began developing a plot to accuse Trump of dealing secretly with the Russian government.

    In order to collect better information about dealings between the Russian government and Trump's associates, the conspirators in DOJ/FBI counter-intelligence wanted to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up Title I. In the latter status, Page would be considered to have become an active agent of the Russian Intelligence service. In that status, his interactions and communications as an adviser to Trump's campaign staff would be considered to be his efforts to obtain intelligence and cooperation from Trump's associates in order to help the Russian Intelligence service.

    Therefore, the FBI would be authorized under FISA to capture all of Page's communications -- in the future, present and past -- with any US persons. Furthermore, the FBI would be authorized to study those persons' subsequent communications with other US persons.

    In order to elevate Page's FISA status from merely Title VII up to Title I, the DOJ/FBI conspirators needed some plausible evidence to convince a FISA judge that Page had become an agent of the Russian Intelligence service. That evidence was provided by the company Fusion GPS, which had been hired by Hillary Clinton's campaign staff.

    It is likely that Fusion GPS was informed that its research product would be very highly valued if it included plausible information that Page had been recruited by the Russian Intelligence service. Of course, Fusion GPS subsequently delivered a dossier that included such information about Page.

    Then DOJ/FBI packaged that information into an application to a FISA judge to elevate Page from Title VII to Title I. The FISA judge approved that application on October 21, 2016. Now the FBI was authorized to capture all of agent Page's communications in the future, present and past.

    A major purpose in the DOJ/FBI conspiratorial group's capturing of such communications was to leak derived information to Trump-hating journalists. Page's communications with Trump's associates about matters involving Russia would be analyzed, and tidbits that might incriminate Trump's associates would be leaked to journalists. In this way, the public would be manipulated into suspecting that Trump was dealing criminally with Russia.

    Thank you for a concise explanation and timeline. Much appreciated. My takeaway is that it’s worse than I thought and elements of our government are actively involved in undermining Trump’s presidency by any means available to them.

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  137. Kylie says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.
     
    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.

    “Then, after that admission, she [Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.”

    Died in intense fear and protracted agony from cancer some decades after proclaiming, “The white race is the cancer of human history….”

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  138. CCZ says:
    @L Woods

    Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.
     
    To a very dispiriting extent, they have done exactly that. After all, why not - they know which side their bread's buttered on. The rank-and-file is probably still less pozzed than the general population, but they are by no means any bastion of conservatism, Americanism or what have you. The "leadership," of course, is worthless garbage in entirety.

    NY Times prints opinion piece from FBI Agent “political [Trump] operatives” undermining credibility of FBI. Most all reader comments (surprise, surprise!!), Trump evil, FBI pillar of virtue.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/opinion/leaving-the-fbi.html

    Why I Am Leaving The FBI

    After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love. Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America’s premier law enforcement agency but also the nation’s security. My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible.

    Political operatives are weaponizing their disagreement with a particular investigation in a bid to undermine the credibility of the entire institution. “The system is rigged” is their slogan, and they are now politicizing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act process used to collect critical intelligence about our adversaries.

    The assumption among confused and dismayed F.B.I. employees is that the attacks are meant to soften the blow should the investigation by Mr. Mueller, the special counsel, lead to additional charges. However, these kinds of attacks by powerful people go beyond mere criticism — they could destroy the institution.

    Josh Campbell is a former supervisory special agent with the F.B.I. who served as a counter-terrorism investigator and special assistant to the bureau’s director.

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  139. @Anonymous
    How's Trump going to get this message out, in any meaningful way? Who's to say he's not already being shadowbanned on Twitter? How would anyone except the H-1Bs running Twitter even know?

    Anything he says--even in a televised address, direct to the American people--will be presented by the MSM as more evidence of his crackpot paranoia. Why do we think the MSM have worked so hard at spreading skepticism (nay, ridicule) about his every utterance? A political genius would find it nigh-impossible to get through, and (certain observers here to the contrary) a political genius Mr Trump is not.

    Over the years, what we nowadays call the "Deep State" has lost little skirmishes here and there, but it has never, ever lost a war and it's not going to start now.

    It would be helpful if he had Congressional Republicans to help him make a case with the public.

    But even without them, Sun Tzu it–dissension, confusion, surprise, etc. As much as possible, he needs to start eliminating and moving around personnel and remolding agencies. Keeping people guessing and understaffed/overworked–fog of war stuff. Unfortunately, he probably doesn’t dislike these agencies in principle and primarily sees things in their personal dimension.

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  140. Nico says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Mudd really stepped in it on CNN with that comment. He keeps on appearing there, apparently thinking that he's immune because he's appearing on TV. That kind of arrogance is usually the province of such bulletproof characters as Senators. Mudd, a minor spear carrier, could easily wind up in prison by attracting attention to his existence with his loud mouth.

    Mudd of course is a former CIA analyst, with all the glorious HUMINT incompetence that such a credential usually entails. Not surprising then that these fellows don’t seem to know their place.

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    That's true. Maybe he'll be educated on the subject of his proper place now that he's done his stint on CNN, where the executive branch has probably taken notice of him.
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  141. AndrewR says:
    @KenH

    it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals,
     
    That's because the long march through the institutions is complete for all intents and purposes and large swaths of America have imbibed their poison especially that emanating from (((Hollywood))) and the lamestream media. The media has always been more liberal than conservative but it's now almost 100% so and liberals have moved further to the left such that they are revolutionary bomb throwing leftists who have no compunction about attacking whites as whites and calling for our complete disenfranchisement (the non-leftist segment of white America).

    Yet.
     
    Yet is right. Bill Ayers once said the left would need to murder up to 25 million Americans and there's no shortage of lefties and non-whites who are itching to make that a reality.

    The left is almost 100% women and soy boys, and most of them find guns terrifying. We’re not exactly dealing with the Bolsheviks here.

    As for the masculine “non-whites” with grievances, they tend to lack the IQ to pose a serious threat to an organized right-wing.

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    Judging by the gun forums I've been on, the masculine "non-whites" with grievances also lack knowledge of reloading and making bullets.
    , @L Woods

    an organized right-wing.
     
    If only there were such a thing.
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  142. Redman says:
    @The Alarmist

    "... the importance of preserving the FBI’s independence."
     
    Independence to do what? Things like threatenening to subpeona members of the House Committee charged with oversight of the FBI for actually overseeing it's activities. It really does take on a KGB quality when seen in that light.

    "Comey is absolutely nuts. the Twitter he account started for PR purposes is just an unbelievable self-satire .... that he thinks this Twitter account makes him look good is stunning."

     

    Shows that Comey is a hack lawyer; some of his Tweets could easily become exhibits for the prosecution.

    You have to admit. To anyone following this saga since the election, Comey will likely come off as the biggest of twits when the story is told.

    There will never be any evidence that Trump “colluded” with Russia. Thus, any charges by Meuller will have to be the phoney type (obstruction of justice/perjury), the same low hanging fruit charged the FBI always makes and wins.

    But the purpose of the investigation was Russia. Many GOP members of the house committee (Gowdy, etc.) are still singing the mantra that the investigation is still valid. This may be technically true, but if its only evidence is the firing of comey by Trump, what can possibly be made of that. He fired a guy who was lying to the courts. That’s called smart.

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    Trump's firing of Comey was a valid exercise of the Executive's Constitutional prerogative, but because he is Trump and he chose to run as a Republican, they will claim obstruction of justice and abuse of power. They also make noises about affecting the "independence" of LE, as if it is a separate branch of government and not an arm of the executive branch.

    But what really hacks me is that Bill Clinton fired an FBI director and was cheered by roughly the same crowd. For all we know, he was smoking a joint and receiving oral sex while doing it. And they cheered him on for all of these things while in the Oval Office. How many compounds with families has Trump burned down so far? How many refugee children has he had ripped out of relatives' arms at gunpoint and sent back to Cuba? Bill Clinton's administration did all of this and more, and they cheered him on.

    If the Dems ever succeed in impeaching Trump, you will never see the Republican congresspersons march to the steps in a show of support for "their guy.". In fact, they will have voted for the most part with the Dems.

    , @guest
    Unless it turns out they were holding a knife to the throat of Comey's grandma, or something, yes.
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  143. Brutusale says:
    @biz

    welcome in “flyover” country as the IRS is in backwoods West Virginia.
     
    What percentage of people in backwoods WV actually pay any federal income taxes? Nationwide it is only 53%, so in one of America's poorest areas it must be way less than half. So probably they don't mind the IRS so much.

    That’s not the tax a WV hillbilly is concerned with. When the “revenooers” come to investigate the sales of moonshine without a tax stamp, however…

    As Heinlein once wrote, strong drink may cause one to shoot at the tax man…and miss!

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  144. @Twodees Partain
    Gowdy has used his hearings to get attention for himself, but he admitted in an interview last year that those hearings are pointless. He's never had the power to indict anyone, at least since he became a Congresstwit. That's probably why he's quitting to go back to his old job.

    Gowdy is a career prosecutor which, to me, makes him the lowest form of life in government.

    Gowdy was neutered by the leadership. If Gowdy had channeled his public-bluster showmanship and bolstered goodwill with so-called Tea Party Conservatives by making the talk circuit with the likes of Limbaugh and Levin, he might have given Ryan a good running for Speaker. In that respect, he is low ambition, but most prosecutors live comfortable lives.

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    Even with the support of leadership, there's really not much to Congressional hearings. Without a Grand Jury, there are no subpoenas and thus, no indictments. Gowdy says that he's not seeking reelection and intends to go back to being a prosecutor.

    Except among youtube fans, he won't be missed.
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  145. Art Deco says:

    By firing James Comey, Trump shattered the our second most sacred tradition, the Halfth Amendment that says, in honor of J. Edgar Hoover, that the FBI director is our Secret-Police-Chief-for-Life.

    Hoover’s successors down to 2013 served about 8 years a piece on average. In 1993, the outgoing Attorney-General cited the FBI director (Wm. Sessions) for misappropriation of funds and Bill Clinton canned him six months later, so DJT isn’t the first to do that.

    The job has been allocated to lawyers for 40 years, a convention which began with Jimmy Carter. Only one of the last six directors had any history in police work (and he had more time in law practice than police work). Not my trade, but I’ve seen contentions in fora like this from self-described police officers that prosecuting and investigating incorporate quite distinct skill sets and that many prosecutors are crummy investigators. I wonder if that’s had an ill-effect on the FBI’s institutional culture.

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  146. Thea says:

    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

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    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.
     
    Unless, it wasn't a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.
    , @Art Deco
    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.
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  147. @The Alarmist
    Gowdy was neutered by the leadership. If Gowdy had channeled his public-bluster showmanship and bolstered goodwill with so-called Tea Party Conservatives by making the talk circuit with the likes of Limbaugh and Levin, he might have given Ryan a good running for Speaker. In that respect, he is low ambition, but most prosecutors live comfortable lives.

    Even with the support of leadership, there’s really not much to Congressional hearings. Without a Grand Jury, there are no subpoenas and thus, no indictments. Gowdy says that he’s not seeking reelection and intends to go back to being a prosecutor.

    Except among youtube fans, he won’t be missed.

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  148. @Nico
    Mudd of course is a former CIA analyst, with all the glorious HUMINT incompetence that such a credential usually entails. Not surprising then that these fellows don’t seem to know their place.

    That’s true. Maybe he’ll be educated on the subject of his proper place now that he’s done his stint on CNN, where the executive branch has probably taken notice of him.

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  149. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @The Man From K Street

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid?
     
     
    A lot of J. Edgar Hoover/Efrem Zimbalist Jr. nostalgia on the right persists to this day to make us imagine that, at some point in a past Golden Age, the FBI was made up of elite, incorruptible "scientific" crimefighters.

    But even in Hoover's day, his genius was in Bureau PR. The agents have never been elite, but mostly just adequate: graduates of second-tier law schools and accountancy programs who would rather not have to deal with counter-intelligence or criminal "profiling" assignments, but instead build careers meeting arrest quotas in interstate car theft and spending endless hours in bank robbery stakeouts.

    Now, compare that with the old KGB, which really was made up of the "best of the best" and was a true merit-based and IQ-tested elite. No wonder their foreign agents in the US ran rings around the Feds.

    Hannibal Lecter: You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well-scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition has given you some length of bone, but you’re not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you’ve tried so desperately to shed? Pure West Virginia. What’s your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you … all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars … while you could only dream of getting out … getting anywhere … getting all the way to the FBI.

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  150. Kylie says:
    @AndrewR
    The left is almost 100% women and soy boys, and most of them find guns terrifying. We're not exactly dealing with the Bolsheviks here.

    As for the masculine "non-whites" with grievances, they tend to lack the IQ to pose a serious threat to an organized right-wing.

    Judging by the gun forums I’ve been on, the masculine “non-whites” with grievances also lack knowledge of reloading and making bullets.

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  151. DaveA says:

    “Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement”

    It would be if Hillary had won. She would have continued Obama’s chant of “No justice, no peace, no racist police!”, BLM protests would have grown like a cancer, and hundreds of cops would have been ambushed and killed by black supremacists.

    For their own survival, cops would start taking a “shoot, shovel, and shut up” approach to black people. Donald Trump’s election averted a race war, or at least postponed it a few years.

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  152. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Jake
    "In other words, the previous President’s impassioned pro-BLM speech on black men being gunned down by police preceded by mere hours a black man BLM enthusiast murdering five Dallas cops. But who can remember way back to 2016?

    Seriously, that’s the actual article in the New York Times: Obama “begged the nation to confront the racial disparities in law enforcement” in the first paragraph and in the fifth paragraph, oh by the way, five dead cops in Dallas."

    Way back in the Golden Age of the Sacred Most Numinous Negro Obama, when these events occurred, I had that basic conversation with a Soccer Mom who said that before Obama she had always voted Republican but now she understood racism as it really was. Her response to my pointing out the absurdity was: "People like you are so blind in your backwardness that you can't see the obvious answer right in front of you. If the police were mostly black, then Black Lives Matter wouldn't have to kill them to make their point.'

    Way back in the Golden Age of the Sacred Most Numinous Negro Obama, when these events occurred, I had that basic conversation with a Soccer Mom who said that before Obama she had always voted Republican but now she understood racism as it really was. Her response to my pointing out the absurdity was: “People like you are so blind in your backwardness that you can’t see the obvious answer right in front of you. If the police were mostly black, then Black Lives Matter wouldn’t have to kill them to make their point.’

    This is why extending the franchise to all women may not have served the interests of a functioning republic.

    Voters, whether women, men, black, or white should have to pass a test of competency before being given the franchise. Like all such tests, it will discriminate in favor of the competent over the incompetent and marginal.

    Universal suffrage is a prescription for the current disaster our republic is facing.

    Braindead voters are incapable of electing leaders properly.

    If the electorate were just a little bit smarter,no chance McCain, Ryan, Graham, Bush, Clinton, Obama or any of the assorted charlatans and traitors elected to higher office could have gotten in.

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    Thank the GOP for the 15th amendment which established voting as a right. It WAS a franchise before then, now it's a human right. The 14th through 17th amendments overthrew the Constitution as it was written and set the stage for the mess we have now.

    14th - Birthright citizenship

    15th - Voting as a right.

    16th - direct taxation

    17th - popular election of Senators

    This was a campaign. The mess we have now is not an unintended consequence.
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  153. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Tiny Duck
    Um white supremacy is NOT synonymous with law enforcement


    Nice try though

    What trump is doing is subverting our institutions

    Tiny Duck: “Law enforcement is not synonymous with white supremacy.”
    Screencapped. We must never forget.

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  154. @Twodees Partain
    I wouldn't be bothered at all to see Comey, Mueller, Clinton and Obama imprisoned. Using police for political purposes has been the norm for much of US history. Ordinary citizens were always the targets. It's just that this is the first time politicians and government hacks stand a chance of being held to account for it, probably because politicians and government hacks were the targets this time.

    If the evidence showed that only some ordinary, unknown taxpayer was being victimized, there wouldn't have been any memo to release.

    I am more worried about the fact that 50% of the country is delusional and cannot understand or acknowledge that this is a problem. One reason the country could live with Nixon not going to prison is that the truth was a far worse punishment. Putting him in prison would have just made a martyr out of him and caused the Republicans seek revenge. Instead, they learned their lesson and ate crow which is what they needed to do.

    Back in the 1970′s, Nixon’s humiliation was America’s. The country was not so divided and both sides learned a lesson. Now, the left is completely insane and it is backed up by a media that feeds it. They are not learning their lesson.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred. I think what needs to happen is that C level FBI hacks such as McCabe, or Stryok, Rosenstein, or Ohr, need to fall on the sword for the good of the country and not just to save their skin. Hillary Clinton will never spend a day in prison but she will go down in herstory as one of the biggest POS ever, male or female. Obama’s legacy will just stay in purgatory until the truth comes out which might be never. It will go to his grave with him like his college admission records.

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    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred.
     
    It's starting to occur to some people -- like me -- that those burglars may well have been working for the other side.
    , @Twodees Partain
    What I find disturbing is the obvious fact that these FBI and DOJ weenies are still following Obama's orders, given at the end of his term. It's entirely possible that Obama is still issuing orders to some of his lackeys left in office by Trump.
    , @MB
    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred.

    Dunno if this is old news or not but everybody mentions Watergate, since it has become something that everybody knows, but what are we really talking about?

    This?


    A byzantine piece of revisionism published in 1991, the book, “Silent Coup,” depicted Dean as the driving force behind the Watergate break-in and the backstage architect of the cover-up that followed.

    The authors, Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, contend that Dean orchestrated the 1972 burglary at Democratic National Committee headquarters to protect his future wife, then named Maureen Biner, by removing information linking her to a call-girl ring that worked for the DNC.
     

    https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Coup-Len-Colodny/dp/1634240537

    To paraphrase X (Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty played by actor Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone’s movie, JFK) — “Who planned the break-ins? Who stood to benefit? And who has the power to cover it up? Who?”

    The answer: John Dean.

    John Dean masterminded the whole Watergate affair, from the break-ins, the cover-ups and obstructions of justice, to ratting out Nixon, and emerging as the hero of the scandal.

    Why were the break-ins planned? The first was planned by John Dean to get sexual dirt on the Democrats concerning the Columbia Plaza call-girl ring which had the DNC at the Watergate as one of its contact points for clients. Nine days after this initial break-in, Phillip Mackin Bailey was busted by federal authorities. Upon examination of the evidence compiled by the assistant U. S. attorney in charge of this case, John Rudy, Bailey’s address book was discovered by White House Counsel John Dean to have the name and phone number of “Mo Biner” under the reference “clout.” Mo was Dean’s vivacious blonde girlfriend, Maureen Biner, roommate of Erika L. “Heidi” Rikin (aka Cathy Dieter), the madam of the call-girl ring and mistress of Washington, D. C. Mob boss Joseph Nesline — an associate of the powerful organized crime Syndicate’s Meyer Lansky — and also roommate of Josephine Alvarez, Nesline’s wife.

    Dean quickly married Maureen, for a wife cannot testify against her husband. A photograph of “my very dear friend Heidi” who attended their wedding appears in Maureen Dean’s book,Mo: A Woman’s View of Watergate. “Heidi” had performed as a stripper at Washington’s Blue Mirror Club in the mid 1960s and had long been associated with prostitution in the D. C. area.

    The second break-in was necessary for John Dean to find out if Mo’s picture and confidential information was in the sexual client book in the locked desk of secretary Ida Maxine Wells in the DNC’s Watergate office, and thus possibly lead back to implicating him.

    In other words, the real unanswered question of Watergate was never: “Who was u2018Deep Throat?'” or “What did the President know, and when did he know it?”

    The real question remains: “WAS MO A HO?” But the elite media will never go there in a million years.
     

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/charles-burris/the-watergate-conspiracy/

    Some go further to say that the CIA deliberately bungled the job to take out Nixon, but it never was a Repug/White House black bag job to spy on the Dims as the cover story was and still is.

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  155. @Redman
    You have to admit. To anyone following this saga since the election, Comey will likely come off as the biggest of twits when the story is told.

    There will never be any evidence that Trump “colluded” with Russia. Thus, any charges by Meuller will have to be the phoney type (obstruction of justice/perjury), the same low hanging fruit charged the FBI always makes and wins.

    But the purpose of the investigation was Russia. Many GOP members of the house committee (Gowdy, etc.) are still singing the mantra that the investigation is still valid. This may be technically true, but if its only evidence is the firing of comey by Trump, what can possibly be made of that. He fired a guy who was lying to the courts. That’s called smart.

    Trump’s firing of Comey was a valid exercise of the Executive’s Constitutional prerogative, but because he is Trump and he chose to run as a Republican, they will claim obstruction of justice and abuse of power. They also make noises about affecting the “independence” of LE, as if it is a separate branch of government and not an arm of the executive branch.

    But what really hacks me is that Bill Clinton fired an FBI director and was cheered by roughly the same crowd. For all we know, he was smoking a joint and receiving oral sex while doing it. And they cheered him on for all of these things while in the Oval Office. How many compounds with families has Trump burned down so far? How many refugee children has he had ripped out of relatives’ arms at gunpoint and sent back to Cuba? Bill Clinton’s administration did all of this and more, and they cheered him on.

    If the Dems ever succeed in impeaching Trump, you will never see the Republican congresspersons march to the steps in a show of support for “their guy.”. In fact, they will have voted for the most part with the Dems.

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    Yes, they will vote right along with the democrats because their Israeli bosses tell them to. On the subject of firing, I expected Trump to fire a few thousand assholes during his first year. It is even within his lawful power to fire Mueller. He should do it and let Schumer howl. maybe Schumer, Pelosi, McCain and Schiff would all have heart attacks or end up in the booby hatch.

    Trump doesn't seem to know that letting the other guy hit first is a recipe for losing a fight.
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  156. L Woods says:
    @AndrewR
    The left is almost 100% women and soy boys, and most of them find guns terrifying. We're not exactly dealing with the Bolsheviks here.

    As for the masculine "non-whites" with grievances, they tend to lack the IQ to pose a serious threat to an organized right-wing.

    an organized right-wing.

    If only there were such a thing.

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    Organizing individualists is like trying to herd cats. It's probably a good thing that we aren't organized into a Borg like the leftards are. When the need arises some loose arrangements will probably coalesce.

    Organizing for electoral politics is, IMO, useless. There's really no political solution that I can see in the mess we're in these days.
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  157. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Until I did the tourist trip to Concord and Lexington, I hadn't realized how much of 19th Century American literary history is concentrated within a few miles of the 18th century battle.

    A biography called “Hawthorne in Concord” informed me as much.

    Though I misspent part of my youth as a fan of Emerson, Hawthorne is the only one of that bunch I like (unless Jones Very counts. I forget where he’s from). Down with Yankee Letters-Imperialism!

    By the way, the center of American Letters drifted from place to place based on where the long-established aristocracies were. Because, despite our democratic pretensions, that’s how Higher Culture works.

    First came the Hudson River Valley (Irving, Fenimore Cooper), I guess because of the patroons. Then came Massachusetts (Emerson, Hawthorne), because of the Brahmins. Last century, Chicago and California tried, but we were by that point in the Mass Age, and it was a no-go.

    Ah, but there was the South (Faulkner, Penn Warren), which thanks to Civil War was on a delayed fuse. They dominated 20th-century American Letters, even in the opinion of academics primed to look down on them.

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  158. guest says:
    @Redman
    You have to admit. To anyone following this saga since the election, Comey will likely come off as the biggest of twits when the story is told.

    There will never be any evidence that Trump “colluded” with Russia. Thus, any charges by Meuller will have to be the phoney type (obstruction of justice/perjury), the same low hanging fruit charged the FBI always makes and wins.

    But the purpose of the investigation was Russia. Many GOP members of the house committee (Gowdy, etc.) are still singing the mantra that the investigation is still valid. This may be technically true, but if its only evidence is the firing of comey by Trump, what can possibly be made of that. He fired a guy who was lying to the courts. That’s called smart.

    Unless it turns out they were holding a knife to the throat of Comey’s grandma, or something, yes.

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  159. @Mr. Anon

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.
     
    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.

    Remarkable,wasn’t it? It’s like Sontag had a moment of clarity and then fell back under communism’s spell.

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    She seems to have tripped over the truth, then got up, brushed herself off, and toddled away as if nothing had happened.
    , @William Badwhite
    Susan Rosenblatt had a moment of decency, then went back to hardwired ethnic animus.
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  160. @Thea
    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    Unless, it wasn’t a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

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    Agreed, Ben. Keeping the same old guys in place was a feature of the Bush administration and Congress, not a bug.
    , @Art Deco
    Unless, it wasn’t a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

    You'd be more entertaining if you'd go back to babbling to the transit police about how you came under FBI surveillance.
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  161. @Prof. Woland
    I am more worried about the fact that 50% of the country is delusional and cannot understand or acknowledge that this is a problem. One reason the country could live with Nixon not going to prison is that the truth was a far worse punishment. Putting him in prison would have just made a martyr out of him and caused the Republicans seek revenge. Instead, they learned their lesson and ate crow which is what they needed to do.

    Back in the 1970's, Nixon's humiliation was America's. The country was not so divided and both sides learned a lesson. Now, the left is completely insane and it is backed up by a media that feeds it. They are not learning their lesson.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred. I think what needs to happen is that C level FBI hacks such as McCabe, or Stryok, Rosenstein, or Ohr, need to fall on the sword for the good of the country and not just to save their skin. Hillary Clinton will never spend a day in prison but she will go down in herstory as one of the biggest POS ever, male or female. Obama's legacy will just stay in purgatory until the truth comes out which might be never. It will go to his grave with him like his college admission records.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred.

    It’s starting to occur to some people — like me — that those burglars may well have been working for the other side.

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  162. @lavoisier

    Way back in the Golden Age of the Sacred Most Numinous Negro Obama, when these events occurred, I had that basic conversation with a Soccer Mom who said that before Obama she had always voted Republican but now she understood racism as it really was. Her response to my pointing out the absurdity was: “People like you are so blind in your backwardness that you can’t see the obvious answer right in front of you. If the police were mostly black, then Black Lives Matter wouldn’t have to kill them to make their point.’
     
    This is why extending the franchise to all women may not have served the interests of a functioning republic.

    Voters, whether women, men, black, or white should have to pass a test of competency before being given the franchise. Like all such tests, it will discriminate in favor of the competent over the incompetent and marginal.

    Universal suffrage is a prescription for the current disaster our republic is facing.

    Braindead voters are incapable of electing leaders properly.

    If the electorate were just a little bit smarter,no chance McCain, Ryan, Graham, Bush, Clinton, Obama or any of the assorted charlatans and traitors elected to higher office could have gotten in.

    Thank the GOP for the 15th amendment which established voting as a right. It WAS a franchise before then, now it’s a human right. The 14th through 17th amendments overthrew the Constitution as it was written and set the stage for the mess we have now.

    14th – Birthright citizenship

    15th – Voting as a right.

    16th – direct taxation

    17th – popular election of Senators

    This was a campaign. The mess we have now is not an unintended consequence.

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    This is a very important point. The Constitution and its original amendments are a crystalline structure that produces an ideal society. The later amendments are flinging cold mashed potatoes at the wall to see if it sticks, composing a Christmas list of things you'd like to have (which is how the Mexican Constitution works), or trying to destroy the original document. There is no hypocrisy in being a strict constructionist and thinking that Prohibition was a humiliation. Compare Rachel Maddow demanding to know if Rand Paul dares to place freedom of association ahead of The Civil Rights Experiment simply because that's the order they're in on paper.
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  163. @Prof. Woland
    I am more worried about the fact that 50% of the country is delusional and cannot understand or acknowledge that this is a problem. One reason the country could live with Nixon not going to prison is that the truth was a far worse punishment. Putting him in prison would have just made a martyr out of him and caused the Republicans seek revenge. Instead, they learned their lesson and ate crow which is what they needed to do.

    Back in the 1970's, Nixon's humiliation was America's. The country was not so divided and both sides learned a lesson. Now, the left is completely insane and it is backed up by a media that feeds it. They are not learning their lesson.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred. I think what needs to happen is that C level FBI hacks such as McCabe, or Stryok, Rosenstein, or Ohr, need to fall on the sword for the good of the country and not just to save their skin. Hillary Clinton will never spend a day in prison but she will go down in herstory as one of the biggest POS ever, male or female. Obama's legacy will just stay in purgatory until the truth comes out which might be never. It will go to his grave with him like his college admission records.

    What I find disturbing is the obvious fact that these FBI and DOJ weenies are still following Obama’s orders, given at the end of his term. It’s entirely possible that Obama is still issuing orders to some of his lackeys left in office by Trump.

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  164. @The Alarmist
    Trump's firing of Comey was a valid exercise of the Executive's Constitutional prerogative, but because he is Trump and he chose to run as a Republican, they will claim obstruction of justice and abuse of power. They also make noises about affecting the "independence" of LE, as if it is a separate branch of government and not an arm of the executive branch.

    But what really hacks me is that Bill Clinton fired an FBI director and was cheered by roughly the same crowd. For all we know, he was smoking a joint and receiving oral sex while doing it. And they cheered him on for all of these things while in the Oval Office. How many compounds with families has Trump burned down so far? How many refugee children has he had ripped out of relatives' arms at gunpoint and sent back to Cuba? Bill Clinton's administration did all of this and more, and they cheered him on.

    If the Dems ever succeed in impeaching Trump, you will never see the Republican congresspersons march to the steps in a show of support for "their guy.". In fact, they will have voted for the most part with the Dems.

    Yes, they will vote right along with the democrats because their Israeli bosses tell them to. On the subject of firing, I expected Trump to fire a few thousand assholes during his first year. It is even within his lawful power to fire Mueller. He should do it and let Schumer howl. maybe Schumer, Pelosi, McCain and Schiff would all have heart attacks or end up in the booby hatch.

    Trump doesn’t seem to know that letting the other guy hit first is a recipe for losing a fight.

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    Except Grahmnesty has already come out and said they will support impeachment if he does. It wouldn't take too many swamp pussies in the House to impeach and with Graham and McCain in the Senate they might even convict.
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  165. @ben tillman

    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.
     
    Unless, it wasn't a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

    Agreed, Ben. Keeping the same old guys in place was a feature of the Bush administration and Congress, not a bug.

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  166. @Mr. Anon

    Her quip about Reader’s Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader’s Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.
     
    Then, after that admission, she went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died.

    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died

    Well… I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:

    I’ve been pilloried as a reader of the Reader’s Digest. I don’t read the Reader’s Digest.

    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader’s Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader’s Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader’s Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a “libertarian,” to be accepted by other “libertarians,” etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if “libertarians” abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning “libertarians.”

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I’m willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people’s personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,

    Dave

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    Well said. I try to live the same way. I have been dealing with computers for years now, so being wrong is not a new or terrifying experience for me.

    "When the facts change, I change my mind" - John Maynard Keynes
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Very perceptive analysis.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I agree with much of what you wrote there. It has been my observation that left-wing politics are often a matter of style for some people, and for others seems to be motivated by a deep sense of personal grievance. I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can't remember a single one whom I have known, so I tend to think that is more of a left-wing thing.
    , @The Alarmist
    Sontag could have trolled her critics and Readers' Digest by saying, "I actually read the National Enquirer for the Cartoons."
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  167. Art Deco says:
    @Thea
    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.

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    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.
     
    Right, but Jamie Gorelick created the Chinese Wall in the FBI that compartmentalized information. She then went on to make millions at Fannie Mae buying Walls Street's mortgage garbage along with Franklin Raines.

    There was an agent in Minnesota who reported on one of the to be hijackers that he had been taking flying lessons but was not interested in learning about landing. She reported this the HQ and nothing happened.

    I hope there is a special circle in Hell for such venal people. Maybe right next to Ted Kennedy.
    , @Mr. Anon

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.
     
    They are responsible for keeping track of security threats within the country.

    But why would a fact ever get in the way of you running your noisy yap?
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  168. Art Deco says:
    @ben tillman

    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.
     
    Unless, it wasn't a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

    Unless, it wasn’t a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

    You’d be more entertaining if you’d go back to babbling to the transit police about how you came under FBI surveillance.

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    And you'd be doing everyone a service if you went back to your own empty website and entertained yourself there by screaming at the walls. Clearly, you are the only person in the World who meets your own exacting standards of intellectual gravitas. So, just do us all a favor, and go blog yourself.
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  169. MarkinLA says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Yes, they will vote right along with the democrats because their Israeli bosses tell them to. On the subject of firing, I expected Trump to fire a few thousand assholes during his first year. It is even within his lawful power to fire Mueller. He should do it and let Schumer howl. maybe Schumer, Pelosi, McCain and Schiff would all have heart attacks or end up in the booby hatch.

    Trump doesn't seem to know that letting the other guy hit first is a recipe for losing a fight.

    Except Grahmnesty has already come out and said they will support impeachment if he does. It wouldn’t take too many swamp pussies in the House to impeach and with Graham and McCain in the Senate they might even convict.

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    True, but if Trump is going to live in fear of impeachment, he might as well just resign. His enemies would have already started impeachment proceedings except for the fact that they fear an uprising. Al Green of Texas already tried to bring a resolution before the House and it was quickly voted down.

    The memory of the spinelessness of GOP senators' refusal to convict Bill Clinton is still fresh enough to scare Trump's enemies on his own side. I also consider the fact that no matter what he does or doesn't do, there are going to be calls for impeachment, given the way talk of impeachment started before he was ever even inaugurated.

    I think it would take quite a few GOP swamp pussies in the House to impeach. The freshmen still think that they were elected to actually oppose the democrats, and the pussies have an election coming up to think about.
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  170. Alden says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    The partisan aspect of all this is obscuring the fact that the FBI and DOJ need to be gutted.

    The problems with large personnel changes make correcting these institutions difficult. But if you don't assume that the future FBI/DOJ have to do the same/as many jobs as the current ones, it becomes much easier to clean house.

    Trump should try to break up, re-arrange, and down-size agencies.

    The civil rights for all but Whites division of the DOJ needs to be eliminated and everyone who ever worked for it sent to federal prison for violating the civil rights of White Americans.

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  171. @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died
     
    Well... I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:


    I've been pilloried as a reader of the Reader's Digest. I don't read the Reader's Digest.
     
    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader's Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader's Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader's Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a "libertarian," to be accepted by other "libertarians," etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if "libertarians" abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning "libertarians."

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I'm willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people's personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,


    Dave

    Well said. I try to live the same way. I have been dealing with computers for years now, so being wrong is not a new or terrifying experience for me.

    “When the facts change, I change my mind” – John Maynard Keynes

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  172. @Art Deco
    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.

    Right, but Jamie Gorelick created the Chinese Wall in the FBI that compartmentalized information. She then went on to make millions at Fannie Mae buying Walls Street’s mortgage garbage along with Franklin Raines.

    There was an agent in Minnesota who reported on one of the to be hijackers that he had been taking flying lessons but was not interested in learning about landing. She reported this the HQ and nothing happened.

    I hope there is a special circle in Hell for such venal people. Maybe right next to Ted Kennedy.

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  173. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Twodees Partain
    Thank the GOP for the 15th amendment which established voting as a right. It WAS a franchise before then, now it's a human right. The 14th through 17th amendments overthrew the Constitution as it was written and set the stage for the mess we have now.

    14th - Birthright citizenship

    15th - Voting as a right.

    16th - direct taxation

    17th - popular election of Senators

    This was a campaign. The mess we have now is not an unintended consequence.

    This is a very important point. The Constitution and its original amendments are a crystalline structure that produces an ideal society. The later amendments are flinging cold mashed potatoes at the wall to see if it sticks, composing a Christmas list of things you’d like to have (which is how the Mexican Constitution works), or trying to destroy the original document. There is no hypocrisy in being a strict constructionist and thinking that Prohibition was a humiliation. Compare Rachel Maddow demanding to know if Rand Paul dares to place freedom of association ahead of The Civil Rights Experiment simply because that’s the order they’re in on paper.

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  174. @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died
     
    Well... I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:


    I've been pilloried as a reader of the Reader's Digest. I don't read the Reader's Digest.
     
    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader's Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader's Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader's Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a "libertarian," to be accepted by other "libertarians," etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if "libertarians" abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning "libertarians."

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I'm willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people's personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,


    Dave

    Very perceptive analysis.

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  175. @Harry Baldwin
    Remarkable,wasn't it? It's like Sontag had a moment of clarity and then fell back under communism's spell.

    She seems to have tripped over the truth, then got up, brushed herself off, and toddled away as if nothing had happened.

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  176. @Lagertha
    I'm between "euthanization" and keeping 'em alive at the end of their expected lives.

    AND, I am fine with lobbing heads off. - I am waiting for the heads that must come off of the FBI ,NSA, CIA, DNC.

    Seriously, I am shocked, shocked that they have not killed themselves (you know who U are) like the amazing and honorable Japanese higher ups did, back in the day - the kamikazees had real balls.

    American FBI, NSA, CIA are yuge pussies...and, they got so effin ratted out, now, eff them - they are traitors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. FBI is sooooo personal for me...they are all, all covering up for their bodies, liars. Prove it to me, baby.

    Aren’t you on a world class roll? The DOJ should deputize you, and make you a double-O, and then send you to Baltimore. (Yes, of course you get the car designed by M.)

    Headline 1 year from now: Baltimore murder rate drops to zero. Democrats blame Trump for malicious prejudice, bias, halitosis, and bad manners in saving the black lives that Black Lives Matter doesn’t care about.

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    hahahaaa. Being trolled for the first time is like so big.
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  177. @L Woods

    an organized right-wing.
     
    If only there were such a thing.

    Organizing individualists is like trying to herd cats. It’s probably a good thing that we aren’t organized into a Borg like the leftards are. When the need arises some loose arrangements will probably coalesce.

    Organizing for electoral politics is, IMO, useless. There’s really no political solution that I can see in the mess we’re in these days.

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  178. @L Woods

    Maybe the Left has completely taken over the rank-and-file of the FBI, the military, etc.
     
    To a very dispiriting extent, they have done exactly that. After all, why not - they know which side their bread's buttered on. The rank-and-file is probably still less pozzed than the general population, but they are by no means any bastion of conservatism, Americanism or what have you. The "leadership," of course, is worthless garbage in entirety.

    Your comment made me think of something. In the days when I worked for companies, before I started my business, a job would change an awful lot over the course of eight years. The atmosphere, goals, procedures and policies would change quite a lot in some ways in that many years, not to mention the ways I would change.

    With that being the case, I’d have to wonder what kind of changes employees of a government agency would see. Their top management might change drastically after an election, and all of their top people would be politically appointed asshats.

    Keeping up with the changes of leadership would probably be enough to make a decent person into somebody his own mother wouldn’t recognize over the course of a 24 year career of being bossed by political hacks. Add to the mix the fact that lots of people attracted to “law enforcement” are sociopaths to start with.

    The whole shitaree (as the old mountain men said) would be a menace to anyone who came into their field of fire. 8 years of Obama, preceded by 8 years of W is 16 years of libtard rule. Add in the preceding 8 years of the Clintons and that’s an entire 24 year career spent under libtard leadership for many of the people in FLEAs and the military.

    That kind of makes them a big segment of the government that is actively dangerous to life and liberty.

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  179. Lagertha says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Aren't you on a world class roll? The DOJ should deputize you, and make you a double-O, and then send you to Baltimore. (Yes, of course you get the car designed by M.)

    Headline 1 year from now: Baltimore murder rate drops to zero. Democrats blame Trump for malicious prejudice, bias, halitosis, and bad manners in saving the black lives that Black Lives Matter doesn't care about.

    hahahaaa. Being trolled for the first time is like so big.

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    this is still the best. I'm like 60; who's gives a shit!!!!
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  180. MB says: • Website
    @Prof. Woland
    I am more worried about the fact that 50% of the country is delusional and cannot understand or acknowledge that this is a problem. One reason the country could live with Nixon not going to prison is that the truth was a far worse punishment. Putting him in prison would have just made a martyr out of him and caused the Republicans seek revenge. Instead, they learned their lesson and ate crow which is what they needed to do.

    Back in the 1970's, Nixon's humiliation was America's. The country was not so divided and both sides learned a lesson. Now, the left is completely insane and it is backed up by a media that feeds it. They are not learning their lesson.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred. I think what needs to happen is that C level FBI hacks such as McCabe, or Stryok, Rosenstein, or Ohr, need to fall on the sword for the good of the country and not just to save their skin. Hillary Clinton will never spend a day in prison but she will go down in herstory as one of the biggest POS ever, male or female. Obama's legacy will just stay in purgatory until the truth comes out which might be never. It will go to his grave with him like his college admission records.

    It helped that John Dean and others willfully and candidly admitted what they had done regarding Watergate. 45 years hence, we are not pretending that Nixon was framed or that the break in and cover up never occurred.

    Dunno if this is old news or not but everybody mentions Watergate, since it has become something that everybody knows, but what are we really talking about?

    This?

    A byzantine piece of revisionism published in 1991, the book, “Silent Coup,” depicted Dean as the driving force behind the Watergate break-in and the backstage architect of the cover-up that followed.

    The authors, Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, contend that Dean orchestrated the 1972 burglary at Democratic National Committee headquarters to protect his future wife, then named Maureen Biner, by removing information linking her to a call-girl ring that worked for the DNC.

    https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Coup-Len-Colodny/dp/1634240537

    To paraphrase X (Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty played by actor Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone’s movie, JFK) — “Who planned the break-ins? Who stood to benefit? And who has the power to cover it up? Who?”

    The answer: John Dean.

    John Dean masterminded the whole Watergate affair, from the break-ins, the cover-ups and obstructions of justice, to ratting out Nixon, and emerging as the hero of the scandal.

    Why were the break-ins planned? The first was planned by John Dean to get sexual dirt on the Democrats concerning the Columbia Plaza call-girl ring which had the DNC at the Watergate as one of its contact points for clients. Nine days after this initial break-in, Phillip Mackin Bailey was busted by federal authorities. Upon examination of the evidence compiled by the assistant U. S. attorney in charge of this case, John Rudy, Bailey’s address book was discovered by White House Counsel John Dean to have the name and phone number of “Mo Biner” under the reference “clout.” Mo was Dean’s vivacious blonde girlfriend, Maureen Biner, roommate of Erika L. “Heidi” Rikin (aka Cathy Dieter), the madam of the call-girl ring and mistress of Washington, D. C. Mob boss Joseph Nesline — an associate of the powerful organized crime Syndicate’s Meyer Lansky — and also roommate of Josephine Alvarez, Nesline’s wife.

    Dean quickly married Maureen, for a wife cannot testify against her husband. A photograph of “my very dear friend Heidi” who attended their wedding appears in Maureen Dean’s book,Mo: A Woman’s View of Watergate. “Heidi” had performed as a stripper at Washington’s Blue Mirror Club in the mid 1960s and had long been associated with prostitution in the D. C. area.

    The second break-in was necessary for John Dean to find out if Mo’s picture and confidential information was in the sexual client book in the locked desk of secretary Ida Maxine Wells in the DNC’s Watergate office, and thus possibly lead back to implicating him.

    In other words, the real unanswered question of Watergate was never: “Who was u2018Deep Throat?’” or “What did the President know, and when did he know it?”

    The real question remains: “WAS MO A HO?” But the elite media will never go there in a million years.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/charles-burris/the-watergate-conspiracy/

    Some go further to say that the CIA deliberately bungled the job to take out Nixon, but it never was a Repug/White House black bag job to spy on the Dims as the cover story was and still is.

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  181. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    I'm between "euthanization" and keeping 'em alive at the end of their expected lives.

    AND, I am fine with lobbing heads off. - I am waiting for the heads that must come off of the FBI ,NSA, CIA, DNC.

    Seriously, I am shocked, shocked that they have not killed themselves (you know who U are) like the amazing and honorable Japanese higher ups did, back in the day - the kamikazees had real balls.

    American FBI, NSA, CIA are yuge pussies...and, they got so effin ratted out, now, eff them - they are traitors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. FBI is sooooo personal for me...they are all, all covering up for their bodies, liars. Prove it to me, baby.

    YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND gallows humor, do you? Plus….the world sucks….right now…it really sucks – horrible promises by very privileged people – your, white friends, btw. Are you still espousing the all the “white people suck/destroyed about 1000 years of shit”: ’cause, dude, run from these chicks – sayin’ as a mother of hot guys!

    GOTFFY. You people have created monsters of Frankensteins that are gonna destroy your babies alive. I’ll be long gone, due to age, but you better get with the Trump Train or you, and yours are Malthusian dead.

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  182. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    That the FBI was not purged and rebuilt after their failure on 9/11 shows how deeply corrupt DC is.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.

    The FBI was not in 2001 responsible for immigration control, or for foreign intelligence, or for the Massachusetts Port Authority.

    They are responsible for keeping track of security threats within the country.

    But why would a fact ever get in the way of you running your noisy yap?

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  183. Mr. Anon says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died
     
    Well... I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:


    I've been pilloried as a reader of the Reader's Digest. I don't read the Reader's Digest.
     
    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader's Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader's Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader's Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a "libertarian," to be accepted by other "libertarians," etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if "libertarians" abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning "libertarians."

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I'm willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people's personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,


    Dave

    I agree with much of what you wrote there. It has been my observation that left-wing politics are often a matter of style for some people, and for others seems to be motivated by a deep sense of personal grievance. I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can’t remember a single one whom I have known, so I tend to think that is more of a left-wing thing.

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    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can’t remember a single one whom I have known...
     
    I think one of the things very few people really grasp is that there is really no such thing as the political Right.

    It's the "fallacy of negative definition." E.g., people who divide the human race into Christians vs. non-Christians, Muslims vs. non-Muslims, etc. "Christians" are a relatively well-defined group, in terms of their membership in some Christian organization, their reverence for Christ, etc. "Christians" are a relatively natural grouping. But "non-Christians" share no relevant features in common at all, except of course the negative one of not being Christians.

    But, humans like to lump the outgroup together to fashion an (often imaginary) common enemy. So, Muslims think of non-Muslims as a real group, and so on.

    The Left is real. For well over a century, the Left has wanted unlimited power so that they can impose their utopian vision on everyone else. At any given point in time, it is fairly clear what that vision is -- today, climate change, gender bending, Obamacare, etc. -- and if you dissent from their current agenda, they can and will get you. Of course, their agenda oscillates wildly over time -- the Left was all for big dams back in the '30s (e.g., TVA) but now they want to protect the snail darter; Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage in 2008 but all leftists must support it today; for decades the Left was all dewy-eyed about Russia but now Russia is the evil enemy; etc.

    Part of being a leftist is grokking what the leftist party line is today and making sure you slavishly repeat that line today, neither too early nor too late.

    There is nothing like that on the Right because the Right does not exist as a coherent group. The Right is supposed to include neocons (who are really leftists), Buckleyite "movement" conservatives (AKA "Conservatism, Inc."), paleoconservatives like Paul Gottfried, the so-called "alt-Right" (which seems not to really exist -- are Sailer, Trump, and Richard Spencer really part of one movement?), various mutually antagonistic groups of "libertarians" (which I know the most about and which are certainly not one single movement!), etc.

    There are no shibboleths that can be used to determine if someone is a rightist in the way that gay marriage, climate change, etc. can be used to find out if someone is a leftist in good standing. E.g., there are people on the Right who are pro-life, but many are pro-choice. Similarly with gay marriage. There are a range of views on climate change.

    Of course, there is one thing that does define the Right: they are all not leftists.

    The fallacy of negative definition.

    The Left wants to bill the conflict as Left vs. Right, and the Right can never win that conflict because there really is no Right.

    Perhaps the Left really fears Trump because he is reframing the conflict as the Left vs. all the normal people who simply want to be left alone.

    The Left really is horribly, terribly tiresome, and if all the normal people just have enough of the Left and turn them off and tune them out, perhaps the Left can be defeated.

    Dave

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  184. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    Unless, it wasn’t a failure, in which case DC is even more corrupt.

    You'd be more entertaining if you'd go back to babbling to the transit police about how you came under FBI surveillance.

    And you’d be doing everyone a service if you went back to your own empty website and entertained yourself there by screaming at the walls. Clearly, you are the only person in the World who meets your own exacting standards of intellectual gravitas. So, just do us all a favor, and go blog yourself.

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  185. @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    Then, after that admission, she [Susan Sontag] went right back to thinking that she and her friends and her side were wiser than everybody else in flyover America, about everything, and continued believing that right up until she died
     
    Well... I think it is a little more complicated and more revealing than that.

    The main reason I posted the quote from Sontag was to show that even a left-wing intellectual knew that ordinary Americans had never bought the Communist lies. The Jeffersonian attitude runs very, very deep among Americans: it is why we still have a chance.

    But I think the link I gave is also very interesting in showing the contortions that intellectuals, including Sontag herself, went through (and still go through) trying to deal with the truth about Marxism-Leninism.

    For example, here is a contemporaneous report from the WaPo that mentions that after Sontag told the truth to her fellow leftists, she still felt she had to announce:


    I've been pilloried as a reader of the Reader's Digest. I don't read the Reader's Digest.
     
    Why did she bother to say that? After all, she had just admitted that Reader's Digest was more reliable than the rags she had been reading. Logically speaking, it was time for her to take out a subscription to Reader's Digest!

    I think the answer is important: it was a deep part of her personal identity to be among the crowd who read The Nation and the New Statesman and who did not read Reader's Digest. She had come to realize that her crowd were apologists for mass murder, yet she just could not fully abandon them because being part of that group was central to her sense of self.

    We need to understand this about the Left.

    My own views are basically libertarian, but I have no qualms at all about denouncing the current Libertarian Party, which seems to me to be simply a particularly flaky group of liberal Republicans (i.e., Gary Johnson).

    It is important to my sense of self that I am an honest person, that I am faithful to my wife, that I know a fair amount about (some parts of) physics, math, and engineering. But, it is not a central part of my sense of personal identity to call myself a "libertarian," to be accepted by other "libertarians," etc. I generally share the views of Locke, Jefferson, Thoreau, et al.: if "libertarians" abandon those views, as they seem to have done, I have no reticence about abandoning "libertarians."

    But, leftists are not like that. It is important to them to believe in gay marriage or catastrophic climate change or the guilt of Michael Brown or the need for open immigration when (and only when) they have to believe in those things to be a leftist in good standing.

    I'm willing to (and, in some cases, actually have) changed my mind on such issues if and when I run across new evidence: if changing my opinion based on new evidence makes me personal non grata in certain political groups, I simply do not care.

    The Left does not think this way.

    In short, we need to grasp how the Left controls people socially and psychologically by manipulating people's personal insecurities and their need for group approval.

    Yes, Sontag is an example of that, an interesting example that we would do well to understand.

    All the best,


    Dave

    Sontag could have trolled her critics and Readers’ Digest by saying, “I actually read the National Enquirer for the Cartoons.”

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  186. @PhysicistDave
    Lot wrote:

    I think we needed Hoover, and he did a good job suppressing the Communist menace without engaging in many excesses
     
    The FBI really did its work here in the States, and, as you say, the only real threat of Communist subversion was overseas. Yes, there were more than a few spies in the US government under FDR, but when Truman started the Cold War, he largely purged them (not as hard as it seems -- many of the Reds were pretty open about it).

    Among the American people at large, merely exposing someone as a Red was sufficient: there was never significant public support for Communism. As the left-wing intellectual Susan Sontag admitted back in the 1980s:

    Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or the New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

    {snip}

    There are many lessons to be learned from the Polish events. But, I would maintain, the principal lesson to be learned is the lesson of the failure of Communism, the utter villainy of the Communist system. It has been a hard lesson to learn. And I am struck by how long it has taken us to learn it. I say we–and of course I include myself.

    {snip}

    We thought we loved justice; many of us did. But we did not love the truth enough. Which is to say that our priorities were wrong. The result was that many of us, and I include myself, did not understand the nature of the Communist tyranny.
     
    Her quip about Reader's Digest is key here: intellectuals back then truly despised Reader's Digest readers, as Sontag herself had made clear in the past. She was admitting that the average truck driver, welder, or garbage collector was wiser than she and her fellow intellectuals.

    And, that was true: most ordinary Americans never fell for the Communist lies. (It is worth reading the whole article.)

    Having lived through much of what Sontag was discussing and comparing it now with the power of the Left, it seems to me that the contemporary Left has much broader support. is much more brazen in openly declaring its goals, is much more contemptuous of the truth, and is much better ensconced in fundamental American institutions than it ever was during the Cold War period.

    Americans need to learn about the bizarre tactics of the relatively small American Left of past decades in order to grasp the tactics of the much more powerful Left today.

    At least, unlike the Soviets, the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.

    Yet.

    “…the current American Left is not literally throwing people into the Gulag.”

    Somebody is … we have the biggest prison population on the planet. And it’s not like the Left isn’t trying, what with all the “hate” modifiers being attached to existing crimes and new crimes like “hate speech” crimes being proposed every other day.

    As Max Keiser often says, ours is a Casino-Gulag economy.

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  187. bartok says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Anonymous wrote:

    If only the NYT could get people outside their core audience to believe their propaganda
     
    The propaganda used to be much, much more subtle. I wonder if they now think people will swallow anything and subtlety is no longer needed, or is the younger generation of NYT hacks simply unable to produce subtle propaganda?

    There is a sense among elite journalists of “this is what we have trained for all these years” (confronting fascism) – subtlety goes out the window.

    In their minds playing on loop is “Heroes” by David Bowie.

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  188. @Harry Baldwin
    Remarkable,wasn't it? It's like Sontag had a moment of clarity and then fell back under communism's spell.

    Susan Rosenblatt had a moment of decency, then went back to hardwired ethnic animus.

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  189. @MarkinLA
    Except Grahmnesty has already come out and said they will support impeachment if he does. It wouldn't take too many swamp pussies in the House to impeach and with Graham and McCain in the Senate they might even convict.

    True, but if Trump is going to live in fear of impeachment, he might as well just resign. His enemies would have already started impeachment proceedings except for the fact that they fear an uprising. Al Green of Texas already tried to bring a resolution before the House and it was quickly voted down.

    The memory of the spinelessness of GOP senators’ refusal to convict Bill Clinton is still fresh enough to scare Trump’s enemies on his own side. I also consider the fact that no matter what he does or doesn’t do, there are going to be calls for impeachment, given the way talk of impeachment started before he was ever even inaugurated.

    I think it would take quite a few GOP swamp pussies in the House to impeach. The freshmen still think that they were elected to actually oppose the democrats, and the pussies have an election coming up to think about.

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  190. @Mr. Anon
    I agree with much of what you wrote there. It has been my observation that left-wing politics are often a matter of style for some people, and for others seems to be motivated by a deep sense of personal grievance. I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can't remember a single one whom I have known, so I tend to think that is more of a left-wing thing.

    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can’t remember a single one whom I have known…

    I think one of the things very few people really grasp is that there is really no such thing as the political Right.

    It’s the “fallacy of negative definition.” E.g., people who divide the human race into Christians vs. non-Christians, Muslims vs. non-Muslims, etc. “Christians” are a relatively well-defined group, in terms of their membership in some Christian organization, their reverence for Christ, etc. “Christians” are a relatively natural grouping. But “non-Christians” share no relevant features in common at all, except of course the negative one of not being Christians.

    But, humans like to lump the outgroup together to fashion an (often imaginary) common enemy. So, Muslims think of non-Muslims as a real group, and so on.

    The Left is real. For well over a century, the Left has wanted unlimited power so that they can impose their utopian vision on everyone else. At any given point in time, it is fairly clear what that vision is — today, climate change, gender bending, Obamacare, etc. — and if you dissent from their current agenda, they can and will get you. Of course, their agenda oscillates wildly over time — the Left was all for big dams back in the ’30s (e.g., TVA) but now they want to protect the snail darter; Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage in 2008 but all leftists must support it today; for decades the Left was all dewy-eyed about Russia but now Russia is the evil enemy; etc.

    Part of being a leftist is grokking what the leftist party line is today and making sure you slavishly repeat that line today, neither too early nor too late.

    There is nothing like that on the Right because the Right does not exist as a coherent group. The Right is supposed to include neocons (who are really leftists), Buckleyite “movement” conservatives (AKA “Conservatism, Inc.”), paleoconservatives like Paul Gottfried, the so-called “alt-Right” (which seems not to really exist — are Sailer, Trump, and Richard Spencer really part of one movement?), various mutually antagonistic groups of “libertarians” (which I know the most about and which are certainly not one single movement!), etc.

    There are no shibboleths that can be used to determine if someone is a rightist in the way that gay marriage, climate change, etc. can be used to find out if someone is a leftist in good standing. E.g., there are people on the Right who are pro-life, but many are pro-choice. Similarly with gay marriage. There are a range of views on climate change.

    Of course, there is one thing that does define the Right: they are all not leftists.

    The fallacy of negative definition.

    The Left wants to bill the conflict as Left vs. Right, and the Right can never win that conflict because there really is no Right.

    Perhaps the Left really fears Trump because he is reframing the conflict as the Left vs. all the normal people who simply want to be left alone.

    The Left really is horribly, terribly tiresome, and if all the normal people just have enough of the Left and turn them off and tune them out, perhaps the Left can be defeated.

    Dave

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    This is a very good point. Almost every mainstream book and article purporting to explain the alt-right is just made up gibberish. Our real strength is in a seventy-five per cent values overlap, and we should reject purity, litmus testing and division ops as enemy psych-outs.
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    @PhysicistDave
    Mr. Anon wrote to me:

    I imagine there are people on the right who have similar motivations for their political beliefs, but off hand, I can’t remember a single one whom I have known...
     
    I think one of the things very few people really grasp is that there is really no such thing as the political Right.

    It's the "fallacy of negative definition." E.g., people who divide the human race into Christians vs. non-Christians, Muslims vs. non-Muslims, etc. "Christians" are a relatively well-defined group, in terms of their membership in some Christian organization, their reverence for Christ, etc. "Christians" are a relatively natural grouping. But "non-Christians" share no relevant features in common at all, except of course the negative one of not being Christians.

    But, humans like to lump the outgroup together to fashion an (often imaginary) common enemy. So, Muslims think of non-Muslims as a real group, and so on.

    The Left is real. For well over a century, the Left has wanted unlimited power so that they can impose their utopian vision on everyone else. At any given point in time, it is fairly clear what that vision is -- today, climate change, gender bending, Obamacare, etc. -- and if you dissent from their current agenda, they can and will get you. Of course, their agenda oscillates wildly over time -- the Left was all for big dams back in the '30s (e.g., TVA) but now they want to protect the snail darter; Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage in 2008 but all leftists must support it today; for decades the Left was all dewy-eyed about Russia but now Russia is the evil enemy; etc.

    Part of being a leftist is grokking what the leftist party line is today and making sure you slavishly repeat that line today, neither too early nor too late.

    There is nothing like that on the Right because the Right does not exist as a coherent group. The Right is supposed to include neocons (who are really leftists), Buckleyite "movement" conservatives (AKA "Conservatism, Inc."), paleoconservatives like Paul Gottfried, the so-called "alt-Right" (which seems not to really exist -- are Sailer, Trump, and Richard Spencer really part of one movement?), various mutually antagonistic groups of "libertarians" (which I know the most about and which are certainly not one single movement!), etc.

    There are no shibboleths that can be used to determine if someone is a rightist in the way that gay marriage, climate change, etc. can be used to find out if someone is a leftist in good standing. E.g., there are people on the Right who are pro-life, but many are pro-choice. Similarly with gay marriage. There are a range of views on climate change.

    Of course, there is one thing that does define the Right: they are all not leftists.

    The fallacy of negative definition.

    The Left wants to bill the conflict as Left vs. Right, and the Right can never win that conflict because there really is no Right.

    Perhaps the Left really fears Trump because he is reframing the conflict as the Left vs. all the normal people who simply want to be left alone.

    The Left really is horribly, terribly tiresome, and if all the normal people just have enough of the Left and turn them off and tune them out, perhaps the Left can be defeated.

    Dave

    This is a very good point. Almost every mainstream book and article purporting to explain the alt-right is just made up gibberish. Our real strength is in a seventy-five per cent values overlap, and we should reject purity, litmus testing and division ops as enemy psych-outs.

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  192. Lurker says:
    @Inquiring Mind
    Hey, do you think TD is not one person, rather, a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction?

    Could be, by keeping it’s persona very simple and limited they can maintain continuity.

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  193. Lagertha says:
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    hahahaaa. Being trolled for the first time is like so big.

    this is still the best. I’m like 60; who’s gives a shit!!!!

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  194. EdwardM says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Sara Carter reported a couple days ago that Strzok and Page openly planned to violate the requirement to have their work-related communications stored:

    Strzok: “Hot damn. I’m happy to pilot that…we get around our security/monitoring issues?”

    Page: “No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently, the requirement to capture texts came from omb, but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we.”
     
    (The rest of the exchange at the link I provided is also enlightening.) What makes this actually funny is that FBI agents are not only planning on breaking the rules, but they are planning it on devices that they know are being monitored and archived!

    It's like one of those self-referential logic puzzles ("This statement is a lie"): they are planning to evade being recorded but they are doing it on devices they know are being recorded.

    Which raises the question: are current FBI agents really, really stupid? Do FBI agents have no sense at all of how to have a private conversation when they are planning to violate the rules?

    And Strzok was one of the top people in counterintelligence at the FBI, i.e., the sleuths who are supposed to unravel (other) people’s attempts to subvert our institutions and hide their tracks. And the people who are supposed to be attuned to blackmail risks such as extramarital affairs.

    Can anyone be so stupid? The only other explanation is hubris.

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