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From the New York Times, a “news” story on the latest front in the Bathroom Graffiti Crisis of Anti-Semitic Hate Plaguing America that is bogus on multiple dimensions:

Swastika on a Bathroom Stall: Anti-Semitism Still Plagues Upstate School District

By Benjamin Weiser and Nate Schweber
March 1, 2019

For years, Jewish students in the Pine Bush Central School District complained about finding swastikas scrawled on walls, desks and lockers. They said they were subjected to ethnic slurs, shoved and beaten. They said other students even led “white power” chants and made Nazi salutes.

The harassment and bullying grew so bad in the rural town about 80 miles north of New York City that five Jewish students sued for discrimination in 2012, and a news report about the incidents led to federal and state investigations.

Nearly four years ago, the district paid $4.48 million to settle the lawsuit and agreed to changes to its curriculum and training to combat bias and anti-Semitism, along with student surveys to chart its progress.

But the surveys, made public for the first time in a court filing last Friday, show that despite the district’s efforts, anti-Semitism remains a stubborn problem at Pine Bush, as similar complaints about anti-Jewish bias are on the rise across New York State and elsewhere in the country.

In the court filing, Pine Bush school officials reported that 766 students, or one-third of the middle- and high-school students the district surveyed last fall, said they had seen or heard incidents of anti-Semitism in school the previous year.

Ilann M. Maazel, a lawyer for the Jewish students who had sued, called the number “shockingly high.” …

The Pine Bush district, which is about 18 miles west of Newburgh, N.Y., serves about 5,000 children from Orange, Sullivan and Ulster counties. In the 1970s, Pine Bush was the home of a Ku Klux Klan chapter president. …

He recalled seeing swastikas etched on the side of a box of Kleenex, scribbled in a textbook and on a bathroom stall….

The state and federal investigations were opened after The New York Times published an extensive 2013 report on anti-Semitism in Pine Bush’s schools.

Evan R. Bernstein, the Anti-Defamation League’s regional director for New York and New Jersey, said Pine Bush school officials had been “very responsive” and tried to do everything the A.D.L. had asked of them, but the survey results meant there was still work to be done.

“If I’m the Pine Bush school administration and I’m seeing that number, it means I can’t take my foot off the gas, and I have to keep pushing as many anti-bias programs and initiatives in the school district as possible,” Mr. Bernstein said.

Okay, I blogged about Pine Bush back in 2015:

Who are these anti-Semitic banjo-picking rednecks in the NYC exurbs?

I looked into this question back in 2013 after reading a dubious sounding article by reporter Weiser in the NYT. It was easy to piece together what was really going on by reading the Jewish Daily Forward and Jewish Week. The community leaders accused of anti-Semitism turn out to be mostly liberal Jews who opposed the machinations of Satmar Hassidic real estate developers from Kiryas Joel to take over their town. …

So this appears to be largely a power, money, real estate, tax, and welfare struggle between ultra-orthodox Jews and a local community led in large part by normal American Jews. You might think that the New York Times would instinctively identify with the educated liberal Jews against the smears of the reactionary Jews.

But that underestimates the media’s insatiable longing for allegations of anti-Semitism, no matter how wacky. The hunger for hate is strong these days.

The NYT should not let Benjamin Weiser continue to report on this story.

But Benjamin Weiser is still working the Pine Bush Beat, this time along with Nate Schweber. There’s absolutely no mention in the article that the Satmar Hasidim are trying to take over Pine Bush, much less that many of those locals most opposed to them are Jewish as well. And of course to the point out that the ultra-Orthodox Jews who are eliciting opposition are mostly Trump voters would, judging by the ill-informed comments on this NYT article, make the typical subscribers brain explode.

This is another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative. In contrast, the Lebanese and Syrians lack that knack, so they have enormous civil wars. There’s a lot to be said for this tendency, but you also ought to know about it.

 
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  1. Svigor says:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Anytimes.com+%22Channon+Christian%22+%22Christopher+Newsom%22

    Judging by those results, if the (((NYT))) never reports on this “swastika on a bathroom stall” story again, it will have devoted as much attention to it as to the Newsom/Christian murders.

    • Replies: @Wally
  2. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    This is a another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative. In contrast, the Lebanese and Syrians lack that knack, so they have enormous civil wars.

    Nailed it on the head! Crying anti-Semitism is just another way to keep Jews united.

    But it could backfire on them. People who didn’t use to pay attention might start wondering why Jews are so hated, and start to look into things, turning this into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  3. Perhaps surprisingly, NPR’s “This American Life” had an excellent episode on this situation.

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/534/a-not-so-simple-majority

    • Replies: @Bugg
  4. Bugg says:

    The last 30 years of politics of Orange County, New York has consisted of Hasidic Jewish Kiryas Joel attempting to expand their blight and everyone else of all backgrounds looking to stop them. When the Hasids succeed, they destroy the tax base and hike water prices. You have a community that immediately takes every house off the county tax rolls as a synagogue. Every KJ family applies for every social program imaginable. Many of them never legally marry so they can claim head of household tax status and be eligible for welfare. So while the Times wants to cast this as a good vs. evil fight, they aren’t looking past the sideshow in front to the reality in front of their faces.The Times doesn’t talk about the eroded tax base, gutted schools nor fights over water.

    What the NPR story does not say but we all know; the Hasidic inbreeding causes a rash of developmental disabilities . And that’s where the special ed budget issue really arose.

    Once made a wrong turn into KJ once; ugly cheap nasty place. It’s overbuilt and out of place in what is still a very rural county.

  5. I gotta admit, Steve, that is pretty impressive subterfuge by the NY Times writer. As I read your first big excerpt, I couldn’t really believe that all this could possibly be the case, but I was trying to see the angle you hinted at in your first line about it being “bogus in multiple dimensions”. I couldn’t see what the trick was. I would have never, EVER, thought of the reality of the situation that you showed in the 2nd excerpt (that I subsequently recalled your writing about in the past).

    Nice job bringing the details back up for us. Leaving out the fact that the slurs were from secular Jewish on those Hassidic guys is just plain lying. I don’t know what kind of lies to call it, but it’s lying all right – lies of omission, lies of presumed assumption…. I don’t know, you come up with something.

    BTW, that’s kind of a slur on the banjo pickers there. As a bluegrass fan, I take great umbrage at that hateful anti-banjoism. To make up for it, you are officially being struggled against with some original Flatt & Scruggs – Foggy Mountain Breakdown:

    • LOL: Rosie, Bubba
  6. Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative

    Yep, it’s the main thing we drill on during those secret Jewish world domination meetings where we drink the blood of baby Christians etc.

  7. Wikipedia gives us a clue to who the perpetrators might be:

    As a result of reported unusual sightings during the mid-1980s, Pine Bush developed a reputation as the UFO capital of the world. This characterization was supported by Ellen Crystall’s book, Silent Invasion: The Shocking Discoveries of a UFO Researcher. The town has held an annual UFO festival since 2011.

    Have there been swastika sightings in Roswell, New Mexico or Elmwood, Wisconsin? The latter is home to a branch of the Sailer clan.

    C-clan, that is.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  8. Bugg says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Ramapo is actually part of Rockland County, which adjoins the more northerly and westerly Orange County where KJ is. But the entire Ramapo episode absolutely is known to everyone in Orange. It’s the same local media, and more than a few Orange County residents fled Rockland to avoid all that.

    • Replies: @sayless
    , @Prester John
  9. This is a another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative.

    Okay, so the legislation making its way through Congress — and the laws already on the books in individual states abridging the freedom of speech against Israel that may be expressed in the form of support for boycotts — laws requiring American citizens to sign oaths thereof in order to do business with their own government — are only directed by Jews at other Jews.

    We can all relax now. Move along…

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  10. J.Ross says: • Website

    For years, Jewish students in the Pine Bush Central School District complained about finding swastikas scrawled on walls, desks and lockers.

    Every school has always had this and it’s not a meaningful issue.

    They said they were subjected to ethnic slurs, shoved and beaten.

    Bullying, not nice but also probably nothing to do with their religio-ethnic group.

    They said other students even led “white power” chants and made Nazi salutes.

    Okay, dude. I am now a lot less worried about the bullying, because these kids are just flat out lying.

    • Agree: sayless, Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  11. Sean says:

    It was easy to piece together what was really going on by reading the Jewish Daily Forward and Jewish Week

    .

    No one else dares print the truth. Similarly, one must go to Israeli publications to find out that in countries with hardly any Jew but lots of Muslims and a majority of white gentiles, antiZionism and disinvestment is not run by Muslims, white gentile Nazis of even the Hard Left. No, it’s humanist liberal Jewish intellectuals who are organising it.

  12. I sometimes complain about the city in which I live, but then I realize Jews play no role here. And it makes me feel better about things.

    • Replies: @anon
  13. @Anon

    Crying anti-Semitism is just another way to keep Jews united.

    Exactly! When Conservatives, Reforms, and Orthos fight, there’s always a moment where we all pause and look at each other and we all have the same thought. Then the conversation always goes like this:

    “Guys, we don’t need to fight like this.”
    “He’s right. We’re all Jews, after all.”
    “That’s true. But then how can we learn to love each other as Jews?”
    (At this point some sappy movie music has started playing in the background.)
    “We…we just have to rally around what bonds us together.”
    “Being really good at writing?”
    “No, our common enemies.”
    “That’s a great idea! Let’s find a way to use our writing skills to disingenuously twist an event we instinctively would have framed as being a complicated, esoteric Jew-on-Jew conflict into one where Jews, regardless of what kind of Jews, are the targets of hatred.”
    “But that’ll never fly! Nobody would believe that anyone out there hates Jews!”
    “We have to. For the the unity of Jews.”

    And then we all shake hands and never fight again, because we know we can always just pin our problems on Goyim.

    In fact, that’s what we’ve always done. We never really fight or argue among ourselves — we certainly do not produce volumes and volumes of books documenting these arguments — because we always stay united by reframing everything in terms of anti-Semitism. Yup. That’s our one-trick-Pony thing we do, and you nailed it.

  14. J.Ross says: • Website

    If white people are waking up to this scam, and nonwhite people are already hip to it, could it be that the reason this seems to lately have been shrilly over-exploited (more than normal, since hate hoaxes and fake news about Nazism are inherently shrill) is that they are conscious of the time running out?

  15. trelane says:

    Could be worse. Here’s Newburgh (murder capital of NY) , 18 mi. East of the swastika-bedeviled Hasidic school district of Pine Bush:

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @El Dato
  16. The Pine Bush story is extreme, even by Jewish standards. The primary instigator of the legal troubles in Pine Bush (aside from the New York Times) was Sherri Eccleston, the mother of one of the students.

    Here she is in all her gentle loveliness ranting at a town meeting called after the school district settled the lawsuit and left every man woman and child in Pine Bush on the hook for $2,500.

    A Jewish judge, with the backing of the New York Times, allowed the lawsuit to go forward against the school district (but dismissed the suit against the principle and superintendent–both Jewish), forcing the school district to reward this woman richly for her obnoxious, hateful, and gut-wrenching behavior.

    https://www.craignelsen.com/library/2015-07-18-how_antisemitism_helped_the_bullies_win_in_upstate_new_york.php

  17. songbird says:

    I’m really laughing, thinking about how horrible the bathrooms were in my high school. You would go in and the few stalls would all have broken doors and people had deliberately missed the toilet.

    Never made the local suburban paper, let alone the metropolitan one.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Autochthon
  18. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lester Flatt was a fingerpicker-look at that outsize pickguard on that Martin. No one else to this day plays bluegrass guitar with fingerpicks.

  19. There’s a lot of real estate intrigue going on with Satmar Hasidic Jews in Williamsburg. They vote GOP in presidential elections, but they are all registered democrats so they can buy off politicians for zoning/housing issues in local elections.

    https://observer.com/2013/03/weapons-of-mass-construction-satmars-secret-to-keeping-housing-prices-low/

  20. @Craig Nelsen

    “Taylor Eccleston” is about the least Jewish-sounding name applied to a Jew since Ashley Montagu.

    • Replies: @trelane
    , @Anonymous
  21. Anonymous[846] • Disclaimer says:

    Check the documentary, “Defamation.”
    It’s quite hilarious as the film maker zeroes in on the ADL combing
    every nook and cranny for incidents of “anti-semitism” that they can use
    for fund raising. Naturally they gin up the stats and wholesale invent
    stuff.
    Most goyim don’t even know enough about jews to be “anti-semitic,”
    nor are most goyim likely to draw swastikas on bathroom walls.

    The jewing never ends.

  22. Marty T says:

    Doesn’t make much sense that liberal Jews would write swastikas on walls or in books. Just sayin…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Craig Nelsen
  23. @songbird

    In my high school the boys stalls had all been removed. It was some kind of administrative retaliation for whatever previous students had done. We avoided anything but peeing at all costs.

    Regarding swastikas, lots of us school boys from another era drew them in elementary school, just because they were cool symbols we had seen on Stuka bombers and such in movies and TV shows. We knew nothing about Nazism or anti-semitism.

    There may still be a swastika I carved on a tree when I was in fifth grade. I played Otto Frank in a high school production, so I hope that balances things out.

  24. Hail says: • Website

    Benjamin Weiser

    – Born ca. 1954
    – Graduated from Brown in 1976, majoring in Political Science and Government
    – 1979 to 1997: Washington Post reporter
    – 1997 to present: New York Times reporter
    – 2005: Published a biography of a Polish colonel who spied for the CIA, Ryszard Kuklinski.

    ____________________

    Nate Schweber

    – Born ca. 1978 in Missoula, Montana where he was also raised
    – 2005-Present: Reporter at New York Times
    – 2006-Present: Lead singer of the band New Heathens
    – 2011: Co-authors book, “Indiana Breweries”
    – 2012: Publishes solo book, “Fly Fishing Yellowstone National Park: An Insider’s Guide to the 50 Best Places”

    Nate Schweber bills himself as a freelance journalist but has regularly gotten bylines in the New York Times since at least Nov. 2005, and many “contributed reporting to this story” credits.

    He got a reporting credit for this similar story from Nov. 2013:

    Swastikas, Slurs and Torment in Town’s Schools

    For some Jewish students in the Pine Bush Central School District in New York State, attending public school has been nothing short of a nightmare. They tell of hearing anti-Semitic epithets and nicknames, and horrific jokes about the Holocaust.

    They have reported being pelted with coins, told to retrieve money thrown into garbage receptacles, shoved and even beaten.

    The above is Narrative Enforcement and immediately sets off Hate Hoax bells, at least Soft Hate Hoax. The below, from Feb. 2016, on which Nate Schweber also gets a reporting credit, is of more curious provenance:

    Bernie Sanders Is Jewish, but He Doesn’t Like to Talk About It

    And one of Schweber’s hard-hitting pieces from the first third of his NYT career:

    State Secret: Chelsea Clinton’s Wedding Plans

    Uncovering tidbits of evidence in a New York-to-Washington web of intrigue over the social event of the season.

    By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and NATE SCHWEBER
    July 16, 2010

    In case you were wondering, Nate Schweber is very likely Jewish. All three Schwebers with Wikipedia entries are Jewish, including the most prominent, Silvan ‘Sam’ Schweber, a U.S. theoretical physicist, who said this of his own ethnic origin:

    I was born in Strasbourg, France in April 1928. Both my parents are of Polish origin. Polish Jews. My father came to Strasbourg probably 1922-23 after he had been a soldier in the Austrian Army.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Anonymous
  25. Lagertha says:

    at what point do the Orthodox and Hasidim Jews cause enough problems to everyday Jews that it all blows up ( I know this was your drive)? I think, the Jews are so out panic-zoned over the narratives and moves, lately, that they can no longer be controlled, especially once these crazy women in the Dem party started to yak, yak, yakkety yak about all the other groups who they believe are more worthy of attention than Jews. It is truly a circus.

  26. @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    “Being really good at writing?”

    For guys who believe they’re really good at writing, I count the same old tedious witless trope (one which was worn out in the 1930s) twice in just the first 13 comments alone.

    I wonder how many other really good writers will show up to bedazzle us.

    PS… first rule of etiquette is, It’s considered really rude to pour your own sake.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  27. J1234 says:

    Swastika on a Bathroom Stall

    The pertinent question is: Was it backwards?

  28. @Hail

    A “very likely Jewish” fisherman and writer, Nate Schweber is clearly one of the apostles:

    We should take his words as gospel.

  29. J1234 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Earl was it, man. A musical genius and a decent human being.

    • Agree: sayless
  30. @Bugg

    Once made a wrong turn into KJ once; ugly cheap nasty place. It’s overbuilt and out of place in what is still a very rural county.

    I drove past it on the highway a few months back and thought “What the hell is that weird little neighborhood?” Something gave me the urge to mark it on the map and look it up on Wikipedia when I got home (“According to 2008 census figures, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation.”), which sent me down an entertaining internet hole. I didn’t even know Steve had written about it before. It really sticks out like a sore thumb.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  31. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Craig Nelsen

    She just wants to start a movement.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  32. rebunga says:
    @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    Meh, so why is a swastika on a bathroom stall in THE NYT?

    I mean if they are so concerned with bathroom stall graffiti, they should do an expose on Randy Rhoads.

  33. sayless says:
    @Bugg

    The Hudson Valley is haunted.

  34. CCZ says:

    Let us not ignore the Orthodox neighbors to the south, in Lakewood, NJ.

    Lakewood NJ has hired its first-ever Orthodox police cadet.

    The Orthodox cadet’s hiring was quickly picked up by Jewish publications well beyond New Jersey, including Baltimore Jewish Life and The Jerusalem Post, thanks to Lakewood’s status as one of the nation’s fastest-growing Orthodox communities.

    The rapid influx of Orthodox residents from Brooklyn and around the world to the Ocean County township has presented challenges. They include funding issues for the local public school system, thanks to transportation and special education costs associated with Orthodox children, who overwhelming attend private yeshivas.

    Apart from an Orthodox Jewish community that makes up about two-thirds of the township’s 100,000-plus residents, Lakewood also has a substantial Hispanic population.

    https://www.nj.com/ocean/2019/02/lakewood-hires-its-first-ever-orthodox-jewish-police-cadet.html

    Previously:

    Twenty-six members of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Lakewood have been swept up on charges of benefits fraud following a multi-agency investigation.

    At present, thirteen couples have been accused of wrongfully collecting a total of $2.4 million in public assistance by under-reporting incomes. Most of the charges have been filed in state court, though some federal charges have been filed as well.

    More than half of Lakewood’s 43,000 children live in homes drawing some kind of public assistance.

    https://www.nj.com/ocean/2018/07/still_no_indictments_in_alleged_lakewood_welfare_s.html

  35. @Bugg

    Monsey and New Square aren’t much different. They look like suburban slums, many residents are on welfare, and you’d never know that some of them are worth hundreds of millions.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  36. @J.Ross

    Steven Spielberg says he was inspired to make a career of movies in order to wreak revenge upon white people, because once a white kid called him a “jew” in junior high school. But it gets worse!

    Spielberg’s mom, Leah, shared in a 2012 interview with 60 Minutes that the Spielbergs lived in a non-Jewish neighborhood and folks would often yell out “The Spielbergs are dirty Jews.”

    Who buys this? Stand up! Be counted!

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @J.Ross
  37. Gyre07 says:

    Whenever ‘anti-semitic’ symbols are publicly-employed to ‘terrorize’ a large well-established Jewish enclave in the US and no perpetrators are identified, the first place to look for suspects should be the members of the existing Jewish community. It’s frequently a ploy to generate sympathy, or hatred against their perceived enemies, and in this case to obtain ‘shake down’ money.

  38. eah says:

    • Replies: @a reader
    , @bomag
    , @ACommenter
  39. @Buzz Mohawk

    Regarding swastikas, lots of us school boys from another era drew them in elementary school, just because they were cool symbols we had seen on Stuka bombers and such in movies and TV shows. We knew nothing about Nazism or anti-semitism.

    There may still be a swastika I carved on a tree when I was in fifth grade.

    Usually a kid starts out with an idea for scratching something much more artistic into a wall or desk, but after carving the first line, he realizes it’s really difficult to make a curve. So he decides he’ll write the f-word in block letters to express his frustration. Depending on the hardness of the surface, after the effort he spends on the first letter, he may worry about how much his hand will hurt if he continues for three more letters with nine lines total. Then he notices that he can make a fairly recognizable symbol and still succeed in expressing his frustration by simply extending one line and making three new ones.

    (All great art respects the constraints of the medium.)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  40. Lurker says:
    @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    In general the feeble, entry-level hasbara you’ve just deployed tends not to fly here. Perhaps you were being ironic?

  41. @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    Nope. Strategic error. It’s the “don’t think about unicorn” trick. Almost as bad as concentrating population in one highly vulnerable country. So smart and so stupid.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. eah says:

    OT

    Can also be used to sidestep comment moderation of course.

    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
  43. @Bugg

    Kiryas Joel is by far the weirdest and most foreign place that I have visited in the United States. More foreign than the Navajo Reservation in Arizona or Slab City on the Salton Sea in California. OK to be fair, Slab City is a post apocalyptic insane asylum, but at least I could speak to the people there.

    I got out of my car in downtown Kiryas Joel to take some photos of the atrocious and unstable looking architecture that somehow passes zoning standards. I was immediately trailed by several Hasidic men, but basically left me alone once I acknowledged them. They had no interest in a conversation with me, but three men stood 50 feet from me at all times.

    Leaving the village, my Waze app stopped working and I was lost briefly in a residential neighborhood. Dozens of children, well over a hundred, ran freely on a side street, some riding big wheels. It was nerve wracking because I was afraid I might hit one of the children running along side my car and casually walking in the middle of the street.

    The neighborhood is certainly safe. Still it was surreal to see over a 100 children under 12, many under age 6, walking in the middle of the street with no adults present.

    There was something admirable about the sense of community, security and fecundity, but it still felt incredibly foreign.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Anon1
    , @bomag
  44. Anon[191] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A couple of weeks ago there were some comment threads or posts here speculating on how Empire could write out Jussie Smollett, e.g., Poochie has to return to his home planet on the Simpsons, or the elevator shaft exit on Friends.

    Anyway, I was catching up on the career of my favorite social justice pixie, Amanda H*ss, who graduated from Slate to a David Carr Fellowship at the New York Times. After that, what?

    We are thrilled to announce that Amanda Hess will become a critic-at-large with a homebase in Culture…. She will continue to write regularly for the magazine and work with the video department.

    John Herrman will be a reporter for Biz Day covering media, the big social platforms and disinformation…. He will continue writing the technology column for the Magazine.

    Okay, two out of three fellows accounted for. Next up:

    And after a compelling run producing memorable essays for the Magazine and writerly features for Metropolitan, Greg Howard will be leaving The Times for his next adventure, which will start at the Great Barrier Reef in Australia.

    Huh? Next adventure … at the Great Barrier Reef? Is that like some sort of New York slang for getting rid of someone with concrete boots in the Hudson? A Bronx overcoat?

    Google Images shows that Mr. Howard is black, as in thick lipped, zero admixture black. How on earth could a black journalist loose his job at the New York Times?

    On the other hand, the entire black management team at Nike vaporized amid rumors of …

    Further research on anonymous forums:

    He was also outed on the ‘creepy guys in media’ Google Doc and had a lot of weird stories come out about him… which is why he went to the Great Barrier Reef and deleted his social media.

    It was like a year ago maybe? There was a Google Doc shared by female bloggers and journalists about weird interactions and guys to stay away from who were prevalent on social media and in journalism, etc. There were some other names on it but it was forever ago.

    Anyway turns out Greg Howard was married and had a habit of grabbing women and reaching his hands up legs that weren’t meant for reachin’ up.

    I wonder if Amanda put down her little social justice pixie foot and demanded that he be cut loose?

    Here was one of his pieces during his New York Times tenure:

    In New York, so much of my life consists of walking in and through crowds. There are many times in a day when a person is walking toward me and in my path. In these situations, we both generally make minor adjustments upon our approach.

    I’ve found that most people walk courteously — but that white women, at least when I’m in their path, do not.

    Sometimes they’re buried in their phones. Other times, they’re in pairs and groups, and in conversation. But often, they’re looking ahead, through me, if not quite at me. When white women are in my path, they almost always continue straight, forcing me to one side without changing their course.

    This happens several times a day; and a couple of times a week, white women force me off the sidewalk completely. In these instances, when I’m standing in the street or in the dirt as a white woman strides past, broad-shouldered and blissful, I turn furious.

    I turn furious because in these instances I feel small. I always get out of the way, because, as a black man, I’ve learned that bodychecking, bumping or even rubbing against a random white woman can be personally hazardous. So I acknowledge other pedestrians, and reroute. White men and all people of color do the same to me. They offer some form of acknowledgment that we are in each other’s path, that I am there at all.

    After these encounters, I’m always left with questions. Why only and specifically white women? Explicit in every white woman’s decision not to get out of my way is the expectation that I’ll get out of theirs.

    Whenever I ask white women I know why they don’t reroute for black men, they invariably express ignorance. But then I ask black men. Invariably, they know what I’m talking about.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/was-that-racist.html

    This in turn led to:

    NY Times reporter accuses white women of racism on city sidewalks
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/343073-ny-times-reporter-accuses-white-women-of-racism-on-city-sidewalks

    New York Times reporter accuses white women of racism on city sidewalks for not making space for him when walking
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4720006/New-York-Times-reporter-accuses-white-women-racism.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  45. J.Ross says: • Website

    Swastikas in the school bathrooms, Islamophobia in the West Virginia Stare House! Ilhan Omar! Fighting! Resignation!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/poster-tying-rep-ilhan-omar-000005647.html?bcmt=1
    The September Eleventh themed poster read, “You said ‘never forget’ … I am the proof you have forgotten,” next to an image of Representative Omar. The poster was set up by the local GOP. Democrats became physically violent and injured somebody by kicking a door, but none will be punished in any way; a Republican who, according to violent Democrats, described Muslims as terrorists, has been forced to resign. Notice comment under article: Omar attempted to get a sentence reduced for a Minnesota Muslim who had attempted to provide passports to ISIS. So, yeah. She’s a terrorist who isn’t blowing herself up because she’s marked for logistics, and if you say so you’re a hate criminal.

  46. On CNN today, Samantha Vinograd, a former member of the Obama national security council, condemned Donald Trump’s speech at CPAC because Trump insidiously called to “preserve our heritage.”

    Vinograd finds such language reminiscent of the Nazis (naturally), and interestingly, somehow a threat to national security.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=128&v=JtMzYd5_7jM

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Anon1
    , @El Dato
  47. Mr. Anon says:

    In the 1970s, Pine Bush was the home of a Ku Klux Klan chapter president. …

    My God! How can this be allowed to pass unanswered?! The town was home to a FBI informant KKK Chapter President as recently as 40 years ago! Surely, the entire town is unclean. It should be razed to the Earth and the ground salted. We must go full Carthage on this accursed nexus of evil!

    Erase it from the map like Lidice! That’ll show these fascists!

  48. Hail says: • Website
    @Clifford Brown

    You forgot to mention something:

    Vinograd was born [in 1983] to a Jewish family in Connecticut. Her parents are Barbara (née Lefkowitz) and Serge G. Vinograd,[2] and her father is a Holocaust survivor.[3] She has three siblings, Ariane, Cassandra, and Benjamin. Vinograd is a 2001 graduate of the Hopkins School in New Haven, Connecticut.[4] She graduated with a B.A. in Asian and Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Pennsylvania and an M.A. in Security Studies from Georgetown University.[5] After graduation, she worked for the U.S. Department of the Treasury in Baghdad

    Hey, bigots. Her father is a Holocaust Survivor. For those too thick to know the moral pecking order, this means “Be quiet, listen up, and increase legal immigration to the highest levels ever.” (Signed with the Jared Kushner Stamp of Approval.)

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
  49. Mr. Anon says:
    @Clifford Brown

    If they were FLDS Mormons, it would be weird. But because they are Hasidim, it’s perfectly okay.

    Fundamentalist Mormons? Creepy.

    Fundamentalist Jews? Wholesome.

  50. Anon1 says:
    @Clifford Brown

    There’s nothing “admirable” about those people. They’re parasites, breeding on the public dime.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @bomag
  51. School board disputes are pretty common, but not like this one. This involves multimillion-dollar land deals, lawyers threatening to beat up parents, felony criminal charges, and the highest levels of state government. Meanwhile, the students are caught in the middle.

    This American Life had a great podcast on the conflict in the East Ramapo School District between the Hasidim and the public school students. The Hasidim vote en masse to take over the public school board and then cut their budgets and find ways to send public funds to the Special Ed Hasidic Schools.

    The same conflict exists in the Five Towns area of Long Island. The Orthodox have taken over the public school board in order to cut funds to the public schools because they are not used by the Orthodox.

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/534/a-not-so-simple-majority

  52. Anon1 says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Israel is an ethnofanatic Jewish supremacist state, but she’s worried about Trump vaguely referencing “our heritage.”

    The bizarre thing is that the Trump administration is wildly pro-Israel. Trump was very well received when he traveled there.

    For her, that’s not enough. Any mild sympathy towards Gentile heritage has to be crushed.

    • Agree: Hail
  53. Gordo says:

    Nearly four years ago, the district paid $4.48 million to settle the lawsuit and agreed to changes to its curriculum and training to combat bias and anti-Semitism, along with student surveys to chart its progress.

    Profitable business model.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  54. Hasidim but I don’t believe em!

  55. @Reg Cæsar

    “He’s found the awful truth, Balthazar!”

  56. I understand the Orthodox consider other Jews goyim.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  57. a reader says:
    @eah

    preserving your heritage, reclaiming our heritage, that sounds a lot like a certain leader that killed members of my family and about six million other Jews in the 1940s

    That sounds mostly like projection.

  58. @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    Hasbara! Doubling down on your pathetic attempts at irony may get you more shekels. It won’t get you any more respect, Cheder boy.

  59. George says:

    “adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict”

    The Satmar (sometimes called private school) side of the conflict is overwhelmingly Orthodox Jews, but they also are willing to face down municipal unions to demand taxes remain low and have comparatively little interest in high government salaries and benefits. So they get support from others who see the local government, and especially the school spending, as out of control.

    The public school side is of the dispute is mostly not Jewish, although the leaders are often secular Jews. And the highly paid and pensioned school district jobs are probably very secular Jewish.

    Also in the mix are illegal aliens who have children in the public schools and get representation but can’t vote or get government jobs. So they attract funding but can’t get any money directly nor can the influence directly how it is spent, which is similar to the 3/5s rule in slave days except they get 5/5s representation 0/5s of a vote. T0 be honest the Satmar probably give the illegals a better deal than the secularists did.

    The East Ramapo School district dust up is the most blatant as it was videotaped. Eventually, the state of NY decided to make a gift of extra funding to quite things down.

    Upstate NY is the least indebted, debt and pensions, area of the NY NJ CT region. So their comparative liquidity is attracting interest. The lack of debt has more to do with economic collapse and depopulation.

  60. @trelane

    That clip is a hilarious example of the prog schizophrenia afflicting the fake news MSM. The video makes quite clear why Newburg has become a shit hole, while the audio natters on about irrelevancies.

  61. @CCZ

    The orthodox community in Lakewood proved adept at forcing out their black neighbors. They bought old houses, evicted black tenants and replaced them with illegals, allowed them to go to shit so they got condemned, knocked them down and replaced them with new orthodox-friendly housing paid for by federal grant and other money. Lakewood’s black population scattered to neighboring communities and the orthodox from Brooklyn keep moving in. The town is the only one in NJ that is growing. They project it to be the biggest in NJ if all goes according to their plan. Bigger than Newark or Jersey City.

    The special education and Early Development system are rackets too. They get their young children Early Intervention assistance by answering questions asked by one of two orthodox-run agencies that do this work in the county, who then get paid to provide Early Intervention therapies. Once the child turns three, he is almost automatically eligible for free preschool because he received Early Intervention. The public schools cannot provide the services the Early Intervention agencies insist are necessary, so the school district has to pay thousands to send them to private religious special education schools run by — you guessed it. $90,000 a year for a student is not unheard of. One local attorney was so good at forcing the school district to pay for special education schools that the district hired him, through a clever arrangement, for $600,000 a year!

    And the busing is bankrupting the town. The orthodox students all go to private schools and the public schools are nearly entirely illegals and black. But the town has to pay for busing them. The orthodox forced them to agree that boys and girls can’t be on the same bus. Since some of the schools are nothing more than homes with one or two classrooms, it is not uncommon for 8 children to get on 4 or 5 different buses.

    I could go on forever….

  62. El Dato says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Hell yeah.

    Drawing a LEM on the Moon then adorning the Astronaut with a Swastika like one saw in old Captain Murrica comics? Who can resist? We didn’t know about SS insignia as there were no easily available reference sites.

    Besides there WAS Wherner von Braun.

  63. El Dato says:
    @trelane

    Talking about “mobs” and “gangs” is hateful and racist. These are youth self-help groups.

  64. El Dato says:
    @Anon1

    This is probably what blacks think of whites.

    • Replies: @bomag
  65. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    You know theres several articles right here written by several esteemed jewish historians and citing
    several others ans published by a jew about how actually its true you guys really did kidnap and sacrifice christian children
    maybe you should read that and get back to us

  66. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ

    The police officer jobs pay better than lawyer and doctor these days and with retirement and a very nice pension before the age of 50. My local police department here in the northeast had more than a few cops earning over $500k w/ base 6-figure base salaries.

  67. Dr. X says:

    Swastika on a Bathroom Stall: Anti-Semitism Still Plagues Upstate School District

    Here I sit, broken hearted
    Scrawled a swastika, but only farted…

  68. bomag says:
    @eah

    …preserving your heritage, reclaiming our heritage

    Another set of phrases and thoughts to be taken off the books.

  69. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    And then we all shake hands and never fight again, because we know we can always just pin our problems on Goyim.

    No. Nobody’s saying that. They’re saying that you continue to fight AND you pin all your problems on the goyim.

    You know. Like the article Steve quoted from tried to do. Or like your attempts at wit are accusing the goyim of doing right now.

  70. bomag says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Several isteve themes there:

    Demography is destiny.

    Borders for me, but not for thee.

    I was immediately trailed by several Hasidic men, but basically left me alone once I acknowledged them.

    Note that in such places; from Chinese towns to African villages; there are lots of informal, unwritten rules and procedures that are voluntarily enforced.

  71. ChrisZ says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    but it’s lying all right – lies of omission, lies of presumed assumption…. I don’t know, you come up with something.

    Is it a “Lie of Oy!-mission”?

  72. @Mr McKenna

    Nah, Monsey is nothing like that. It is nice looking suburban town that’s mostly Orthodox Jewish. Most developments in Monsey are single family 1/2 or 1/4 acre affairs. The exception is Phyliss Terrace which is not horrible as overbuilt monstrosities go. Tax base is solid and poverty not high.

  73. HenryA says:

    Here’s a hypothetical question I ask people I know in northern New Jersey and southern New York ; who would you rather have move in and take over your neighborhood: Latin American immigrants, Blacks, Muslims or Hasidic Jews? Most respondents chose Muslims or the Latin American immigrants. No one with any familiarity with Hasidics choses Hasidics. Most can imagine befriending and interacting positively with Muslims or Hispanics or even Blacks. No one has any kind of interaction with Hasidics that they would call positive.

    Despite the visceral response that Hasidics generate, suburban Whites have also been cowed into silence because any criticism or steps to prevent them from taking over only seems to bring lawsuits from groups like the ADL and condemnation from local media and the political establishment. When the Hasidics start to move in, your best bet is to be among the first to sell while prices are still high.

  74. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    This is another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative.

    It is pretty clever. Something similar to this is the way people think about pogroms in Russia and Poland and places like that.

    Tbe average person doesn’t really know much about ultra-Orthodox types and all the stuff they do. When they hear “Jewish person”, they think of Jerry Seinfeld and Judd Apatow and all the other liberal Jews they see on TV. So when they hear that people in Poland and Russia all of a sudden started beating up Jewish people, they always think “Gosh! Why would anybody want to beat up Jerry Seinfeld? Those people must just be crazy!”.

    But, of course, the Jerry Seinfeld-type liberal Jews are a much newer thing, and they didn’t really exist in Eastern Europe back then. The ones then were much more like the Kiryas Joel types.

    But if you’re able to blur that distinction, it’s easier to make it seem just like pure Gentile evil.

  75. @william munny

    Since some of the schools are nothing more than homes with one or two classrooms, it is not uncommon for 8 children to get on 4 or 5 different buses.

    I have lived in or near Lakewood for ten of the last 20 years and I have never seen this. The vast majority of the elementary students attend large schools like Lakewood cheder (5000ish students), Bais Faiga ( same ball park) and others that are somewhat smaller . The only private home “schooling” that I know of is gan, which is semi organized daycare for preschool kids ,and not eligible for bussing assistance.

    • Replies: @william munny
  76. George says:

    ” $90,000 a year”

    “private religious special education schools run by — you guessed it.”

    Without really researching or understanding it, basically, there is a bunch of money coming from Fed Gov to school districts based on census numbers for the number of children and poverty levels. The Orthodox Jews usually qualify for being in poverty, if only due to the number of children. They don’t actually live in a state of material privation. I believe their kids also are counted in determining the amount of money a district gets from Fed Gov, even if their kids cannot attend public school due to religious prohibition. So there is an incentive to game the system to get Fed Gov money spent on Orthodox Jewish children. The rest, as they say, is details.

    Worth noting is that unlike ‘White’ society highly educated and capable Orthodox Jews live with and respect the interests of poor Orthodox Jews, and poor Orthodox Jews accept their place and respect the authority of the Orthodox hierarchy.

    White people for their part hijack education money meant for illegal alien’s children and spend it on their kids or their personal salary and pension schemes.

    https://www.ewa.org/federal-k-12-funding

  77. Anon[138] • Disclaimer says: • Website

  78. @eah

    Has this worked for others? I added the Safari browser extension, but when I visit a site and click the “g”, nothing happens.

    • Replies: @eah
  79. @Craig Nelsen

    A Jewish judge, with the backing of the New York Times, allowed the lawsuit to go forward against the school district (but dismissed the suit against the principle and superintendent–both Jewish), forcing the school district to reward this woman richly for her obnoxious, hateful, and gut-wrenching behavior.
    https://www.craignelsen.com/library/2015-07-18-how_antisemitism_helped_the_bullies_win_in_upstate_new_york.php

    This stuff makes my blood boil.

    How can you have a claim that someone has suffered a grevious tort from the school system, which actually involves absolutely zero actual bodily damage … but no one in the system actually did anything wrong or is responsible? By defintion–no matter what the kids did–if the school system is somehow “guilty” (which i dispute), then someone in authority did it. If the argument is the existing law\procedures are insufficient, then that’s a political matter. A demand–again a ridiculous one–that the school system must stamp out all childish behavior. (Or more precisely all childish behavior that can be labelled “anti-semitism”.)

    We see this legal abuse shakedowns for money and shakedowns to cheat on the democracy process all the fricking time. Lots of times it’s open collusion. The rip off artists and “public officials” are in cahoots. The rip off artists sue, the “public officials” submit and settle. Everyone gets paid, political contributions are made, “progress” moves forward–the taxpayer gets fleeced and democracy crushed.

    It’s yet another reason why allowing a tribal middle man minority into your nation is a mistake. What gentiles take as a “commons”, others see as “opportunity”. We had a legal system that–warts and all–was reasonable for handling disputes among high-trust white NW Euro gentiles. But it’s been rolled up–slapped around, abused–and turned into a weapon against the native population.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, bomag
    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  80. @Bugg

    The last 30 years of politics of Orange County, New York has consisted of Hasidic Jewish Kiryas Joel attempting to expand their blight and everyone else of all backgrounds looking to stop them …

    Separate nations. It can not be said enough. Separate peoples belong in separate nations.

    Figuring out the weaknesses of the legal systems, tax codes, welfare systems of high trust peoples is not difficult. Looters gonna loot.

    Once a nation–a dominant people, with their culture, values and rules normative–breaks down, there really is no “bottom”.

    The only way another has ever successfully run a “multicultural” polity is the old fashioned imperial way. Think the Romans or Ottomans. Separate ethnys can be left responsible for their own affairs as long as they pay their taxes and don’t make trouble. Make trouble and the boot comes down.

    The whiny Jewish woman who wants field trip timings according to her religious schedule, and doesn’t want her kid to every see a swastika scrawled in any kids notebook … should send her kid to a private school and/or live in her own community with like minded Jews and no have her hand–and her lawyers grubby paws–on other people’s money. Ditto these Satmar Haisidim–their own community, their own schools, which they pay for themselves.

    Ditto other Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Christians, secular “progressives”, blacks, Latinos, Indians, Chinese, homos, trannies, etc. etc. Let people live where they want to live, associate with whom they want to associate, school their kids as they see fit … and leave other people alone. Stop bullying us with all your nanny state rules and get your hand out of our pockets. Then we can all “live together” and “get along”.

    Yes, this sucks … but it’s the best we can do once you’ve given up having a one-people nation.

  81. El Dato says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Suffering Samantha (“Sam”) Vinograd has made it to RT:

    CNN analyst claims Trump’s speech sounded like HITLER’s, but script was written by… PUTIN?!

    “His statement makes me sick, on a personal level, preserving your heritage, reclaiming our heritage, that sounds a lot like a certain leader that killed members of my family and about six million other Jews in the 1940s,” she said. She went on to lament how Trump had used his CPAC address to “spread misinformation and conspiracy theories,” and that certain things he said “really” made it seem as if “Vladimir Putin scripted his speech.”

    Advice dogs says: REMEMBER the SIX MILLION!

    Bonus points: A heartfelt call for invite the world by Sam in Marie Claire:

    I am alive today because my father survived the Holocaust by hiding on a farm and joining the French resistance. His whole family—and about 6 million other Jews—did not survive. The United States could have helped by offering sanctuary, but chose not to let in as many Jewish refugees as it could. We even turned back a ship of refugees docked right by our coast—so close they could see the lights of Florida—and sent them back to Europe and the Nazi killing machine.

    But ultimately the fiction shatters: On Fox News this weekend, Rudy Giuliani stated outright that President Trump wanted to find a way to do a “Muslim ban.”

    So what’s this all really about, at the end of the day?

    Religious persecution. The very thing that nearly killed my father and ended the lives of 6 million Jews. The very thing we remember and say “never again.” But today, in Trump’s America, it’s happening again anyway.

    The is an allusion to the St. Louis. In a personal interest story in Haaretz subheaded with complete lack of self-awareness “The saga of the ship of Jews fleeing Nazi Europe in 1939, which was turned away and sent back by Cuba and the U.S., is a cautionary tale about refugees – and a reminder that history doesn’t forget countries with immoral policies and cynical interests “

    … we read in the 12th paragraph among other things that …

    [In May 1939], For his part, Batista (of Cuba) was busy paving his own way to the presidency and didn’t want to deal with any complications over such a contentious issue. He avoided the dramatic negotiations the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee was conducting on behalf of the passengers, claiming he was ill – but behind the scenes, he was a party to Laredo’s decision to deny them entry. For its part, the U.S. government, whose representatives closely followed the feverish contacts between the JDC and Cuban authorities, didn’t lift a finger to help the beleaguered refugees.

    Why wouldn’t Roosevelt and Cordell-Hull lift a finger? Wo knows! We have seen worse things from that administration, and not directed at Jews.

    The end of the saga is known: Great Britain, France, Holland and Belgium agreed to accept the refugees on the St. Louis, which was turned away by Cuba and the U.S., but most of them fell into Nazi captivity after the occupation of Western Europe.

    There is probably someone out there who is called “Gold Hindsight”.

    Naturally, Justin is in on the guilt trip:

    In May 2018, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the Government of Canada would offer a formal apology in the country’s House of Commons for its role in the fate of the ship’s passengers. The apology was issued on November 7

    • Replies: @El Dato
  82. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve wrote:

    This is another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative.

    Admirably? What is admirable about it?

  83. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    The only way another has ever successfully run a “multicultural” polity is the old fashioned imperial way. Think the Romans or Ottomans. Separate ethnys can be left responsible for their own affairs as long as they pay their taxes and don’t make trouble.

    Where can we read up on how this functioned? And how could it possibly work in the US where there are so many common public goods, like roads, healthcare, welfare, defense laws, etc.?

  84. @AnotherDad


    We see this legal abuse shakedowns for money and shakedowns to cheat on the democracy process all the fricking time. Lots of times it’s open collusion. The rip off artists and “public officials” are in cahoots. The rip off artists sue, the “public officials” submit and settle. Everyone gets paid, political contributions are made, “progress” moves forward–the taxpayer gets fleeced and democracy crushed.

    I don’t think this has much to do with usual suspects minoritarianists. It’s most common with environmentalist lawsuits against the EPA, where the EPA and the Sierra club collude on “settlements” to do an end run around regulatory process requirements. It’s a side effect of the rise of the administrative state. The administrative state is the sworn enemy of democracy.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  85. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gordo

    Profitable business model.

    That’s nothing compared to the billions annually Jews receive for Israel from US taxpayers, in exchange for a few million investment in the form of political donations.

  86. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Almost as bad as concentrating population in one highly vulnerable country.

    They have to insulate themselves to survive globalization and risk of intermarriage.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  87. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ

    The rapid influx of Orthodox residents from Brooklyn and around the world

    Around the world? Are people allowed to just flood into our country like this?

    • Replies: @Anon1
    , @Jack D
  88. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Schweber is probably of German origin. He looks German and is from Montana.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Ian M.
  89. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    In my high school the boys stalls had all been removed.

    What if kids had to do a No. 2?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  90. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T

    Doesn’t make much sense that liberal Jews would write swastikas on walls or in books. Just sayin…

    You need to think a little harder about that one.

  91. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I could only think of Saul Bellow, so i checked a few lists of Jewish writers online. Name after name of people no one has ever heard of (except other Jews, no doubt) plus a smattering I’d not thought of: Asimov, Salinger, Roth.

    When I (and, dare I say, most) think of people who are (or were) “really good at writing” I think of Dickens, Shakespeare, Milton (okay – dictating!), Heinlein, Dick, Vance, Strindberg, Ibsen, Achebe, Woolf, Joyce, Hugo, Dumas, Balzac, Kafka, Dostoyevsky, Clemens, Poe, Doyle, Chaucer, Defoe, Tolkien, Fielding, Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Cervantes, Virgil, Ovid….

    I really am just powering through all the great writers I can think of as they enter my head. I don’t think any of these people are Jews.

    (P.S.: I remembered Jews often masquerade as Germans and Slavs, so I checked, and Kafka was indeed a Jew.)

    I must be an anti-semite!

    Or maybe, ironically, the Simple Pseudonym has given away the thing at which Jews truly and famously excel: shamelessly thinking they are really great at stuff they aren’t that great at; i.e., delusional self-aggrandisement.

  92. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Taylor Eccleston” is about the least Jewish-sounding name applied to a Jew since Ashley Montagu.

    Um, Ecclestein is not Jewish sounding? And isn’t Muntag a Yiddish word?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  93. @songbird

    My schools’ restrooms were humble but perfectly serviceable and as clean as any restroom used by children and teenagers all day can be.

    I went to school in a southeastern place, though; we were denied the vibrant enlightenment of New York, so we never knew we were supposed to trash the place like a bunch of crazed apes.

  94. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    And I guess there is a case to be made for more refugees: Via Stars&Stripes, originally from WaPo:

    China’s expanding war on Islam: Now they’re coming for the Kazakhs

    Rian Thum, a senior research fellow at the University of Nottingham and an expert on Xinjiang, told me he was surprised to see Kazakhs swept up in the camps along with Uighurs, given that Kazakhs had long been viewed by the Chinese state as a model Muslim group that accepted Communist Party rule. There are nearly 1.5 million ethnic Kazakhs living in Xinjiang, making them the second-largest Muslim group in the region after Uighurs. Thum says the new hard line against Kazakhs is motivated by the same “blend of Islamophobia and racism” toward Muslim minorities that has led Uighurs to be viewed as dangerous.

  95. @Hail

    So, from what I can understand the United States welcomed her father, permitted her to attend some of its finest institutions of higher learning and attain a position of prominence in its government, and her thanks is to call its President Hitler for his stated desire and that of his voters to abate the transformation of the United States into a third world hellscape.

  96. @william munny

    Relevant commentary by a Christian pastor who had organized a tent city in Lakewood til it was torn down by authorities starts at 26:35.

    Note how he refers to a certain ”community” without naming it. The video images help fill in the blanks.

    • Replies: @william munny
    , @Anon
  97. Sharpie says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Here is a quote from a filmmaker that applies to Steve’s observation about the NYT omitting where the slurs came from:

    It’s a joke that reveals an unsettling truth: the tendency to invalidate Jewish people who are not in your group. One Satmar man – a friend of mine – told me that Reform Jews are the most anti-semitic people he’s met because they take the prejudices and slurs that have been hurled at them and turn around and apply them to Hasidim.

    https://www.talkhouse.com/future-jew/

  98. @eah

    .preserving your heritage, reclaiming our heritage, that sounds a lot like a certain leader that killed members of my family and about six million other Jews
    or like black history month, or zionism…

  99. Wally says:
    @Svigor

    search swastika here find more facts:

    Fake Hate Crimes: a database of hate crime hoaxes in the USA:
    http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

  100. Mr. Anon says:
    @AnotherDad

    The only way another has ever successfully run a “multicultural” polity is the old fashioned imperial way. Think the Romans or Ottomans. Separate ethnys can be left responsible for their own affairs as long as they pay their taxes and don’t make trouble. Make trouble and the boot comes down.

    Repression is the usual way for dealing with diversity. A republic can not accomodate it, but an empire can – at least for a while.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  101. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    It needs to be pointed out that the Satmar sect are fanatically anti-Zionist. Just in case anyone here wants to nutt in their pants at the potential to bring Israel into this issue.

  102. El Dato says:

    Antisemitic acts spawning like Pokémon Go Creatures in France:

    https://www.rt.com/news/452850-jewish-memorial-france-vandals/

  103. syonredux says:

    Matthew Yglesias has some thoughts on how right-wing Jews can be brought fully on board the PC train….Which basically amount to giving Israel a free pass….

    I would like everyone to try to develop internally coherent thinking about whether “politically correct” speech-policing is a huge problem and whether Ilhan Omar’s strident rhetoric about Israel needs to be policed more stringently.

    My take is that though people sometimes take it too far the “PC” impulse is mostly good, its critics mostly wrong, and it’s reasonable for Jewish people to want Israel to be discussed in a way that bends over backward to cater to their sensitivities about anti-Semitism.

    I wish Jewish people who are on the center or right politically and are very bothered by this sort of thing would try harder to engage sympathetically with speech-policing efforts that don’t speak as directly to their personal concerns.

  104. @syonredux

    I should be used to it by now,but it still shocks me how utterly authritarian and unprincipled progressives are regarding freedom of speech, association and liberty in general. Other than sexual freedom, no other form of freedom means anything to them. Sad.

    • Agree: Anon1
  105. Mr. Anon says:
    @syonredux

    I would like everyone to try to develop internally coherent thinking about whether “politically correct” speech-policing is a huge problem and whether Ilhan Omar’s strident rhetoric about Israel needs to be policed more stringently.

    My thinking on the matter of speech policing is “internally coherent”. I’m against it. Yglesias doesn’t really want people to have “internal coherence” on the matter; he wants people to adhere to his opinions, he wants the state to enforce his opinions.

  106. bomag says:
    @Anon1

    They’re parasites, breeding on the public dime.

    Kind of a stationary Gypsy strategy.

    They seem to enjoy exceptional immunity. Where are the Gay activists, asking them to bake a cake so they can dispossess them of cash and prizes?

    And the governor helping to craft special legislation to perpetuate a scam? I realize there is corruption in the world; that Cuomo types are whores for votes; but this seems far beyond the pale, like a car so broken it needs to be scrapped.

    • Agree: Anon1
    • Replies: @Anon1
    , @Clifford Brown
  107. @Bugg

    Know the area fairly well. The Great Migration started shortly after the Yankel Rosenbaum/Crown Heights controversy back in 1991 when the mayor of NYC was a career hack by the name of David Dinkins, touted as the “first black mayor of NYC”, whose most famous gesture was a shrug and who was famously described by the late radio talk show host, Bob Grant, as the “men’s room attendant at Twenty-One (a famous restaurant in Manhattan). The Spring Valley area of Rockland County is for all intents and purposes Crown Heights North.

  108. @AnotherDad

    “Yes, this sucks … but it’s the best we can do once you’ve given up having a one-people nation.”

    Oh my, what did that dude call it:

    “The first universal nation”

    https://www.amazon.com/First-Universal-Nation-Ben-Wattenberg/dp/0029340012

  109. @syonredux

    Yglesias earns a living writing like this?

  110. Olorin says:

    Swastika on a Bathroom Stall: Anti-Semitism Still Plagues Upstate School District

    By Benjamin Weiser and Nate Schweber

    deep sigh

    • Agree: Hail
  111. Olorin says:
    @syonredux

    As an old bubbe of my acquaintance liked to say from time to time, “He’s nothing if not inconsistent.”

    As a Jewish person with a not-so-Jewish last name who occasionally criticises the policies of the Israeli government (or, more frequently, the policies of the United States vis-a-vis Israel), I’ve been known to spend some time pondering how to work the fact that I’m Jewish into my writing. After all, you don’t want to be called an anti-semite. The good news, then, is that the American Jewish Committee says I don’t need to bother any more.

    The group, one of the oldest, largest and most respected Jewish organisations in the America, recently published a pamphlet by Alvin Rosenfeld on the subject of ‘Progressive’ Jewish Thought and the New Anti-Semitism – a shot across the bow of those of us who thought being Jewish might be a defence against charges of anti-semitism.

    But, according to the essay, the distinguishing characteristic of the “new anti-semitism” seems to be that, unlike the old anti-semitism, it doesn’t necessarily involve a bigoted view of Jewish religion, Jewish people, Jewish culture, or Jewish anything else.

    It’s not, in short, anti-semitism. Which perhaps explains why so many Jews – the essay names Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, historian Tony Judt, poet Adrienne Rich, and playwright Tony Kushner, among others – are guilty of it. How does the paper pull this off? By starting out with a transparent fraud: identifying anti-semitism – hatred of Jewish people – with anti-Zionism, or the belief that Israel should not exist as a Jewish state.

    The latter view, while not something I agree with, simply is not anti-semitism. One could imagine applying the latter label to someone who proposed the physical destruction of the Israeli population. But the supposed sins of the “new” anti-semites don’t even come close.

    Judt’s crime was simply to call for the creation of a single, binational, secular state encompassing all the territory west of the Jordan River. “Unrealistic” is a good label for this proposal. Anti-semitic is an absurd one. Cohen, for his part, went even less far, arguing simply that, in retrospect, the establishment of Israel was “a mistake” – and not even a mistake that should be undone.

    Equating such sentiments with anti-semitism is perverse. The concept of Zionism was extremely controversial within the Jewish community when first proposed; it remains at least a little controversial today (especially in the retrospective form in which Cohen raised the issue); and it has nothing to do with hatred of Jewish people.

    Are we all anti-Semites now? (2007)
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/feb/08/matthewyglesias
    http://archive.is/pTFkG

  112. @AnotherDad

    Separate nations. It can not be said enough. Separate peoples belong in separate nations.

    With Joseph de Maistre’s corollary, “Every people gets the government it deserves.”

    He also said, “All pain is a punishment, and every punishment is inflicted for love as much as for justice.”

    A nice depiction of unintended consequences.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  113. @Achmed E. Newman

    As a really longtime fan of bluegrass I think very good banjo players are a breed apart from other musicians. It takes a special kind of “soul” to harmonize that instrument with guitars, fiddles. etc., but then again bluegrass itself is a special kind of music that does not appeal to some people.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  114. The FBI was investigating a recent hate crime where a yellow Swastika was found on a snow bank after a very left Dem caucus. The test on the yellow snow proved it was Bernie Sander’s urine. The handwriting was AOC’s.

  115. Hhsiii says:

    Just out of college, my roommate was a guy in the music biz, sideline dealing weed. He would get random furniture off the street. Once he brought back a school chair. Some kid had carved a swastika on it and a peace sign. Maybe different kids. Also written on it was the phrase Gina C is a coke ho.

    He’d throw dinner parties. He was a pretty good cook. We’d always have the best looking girl we could manage to sit in tat chair. We called it, naturally, the Nazi Peace Chair. There’s sometimes be semi celebs there. Duff, the VJ from MTV.

    Anyway. Nazi symbols in the bathroom? It would be weird if there weren’t any.

  116. @Hhsiii

    Nazi symbols in the bathroom? It would be weird if there weren’t any.

    Yeah, and John Lennon’s singing was making fun of people that saw “Nazi’s in the bathroom, underneath the stairs” only 40 years ago.

    He was damn prescient: Nobody told me there’d be days like these… strange days indeed … (most peculiar, Mama…)

    Check out the two in their cute Che Guevera berets. Berets should only be worn by Special Forces soldiers and French cuties, not by Commies or that gay myth buster guy

    • Replies: @Tony
  117. @Simply Simon

    Perhaps that’s where Jerry Garcia picked up his way of trying to play lead guitar during every song, some of which don’t really have any room for it. He played bluegrass before The Dead.

    I will tell you one thing about listening to bluegrass music: Don’t do it in your car in city driving, unless your state or district (in your case) is very, very lenient on giving out bad-driver points.

  118. @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    Yep, it’s the main thing we drill on during those secret Jewish world domination meetings where we drink the blood of baby Christians etc.

    Thanks for the confirmation!

  119. Maybe different kids. Also written on it was the phrase Gina C is a coke ho.

    Expect a letter from Gina C’s attorney in the near future.

  120. Wikipedia bans this link, for some reason. Seems innocuous to me. Just a bit too informative for them, I guess.

    The most common surnames in Greater London

    There must be a lot of John Bulls in London; that surname is #54.

    In Great Britain : 35 010 people share the surname Bull according to our estimation
    The surname Bull is the 236th most common name in Great Britain.

    https://surname.sofeminine.co.uk/w/surnames/surname-bull.html

  121. Brutusale says:
    @WowJustWow

    Has their welfare rate overtaken that of the polygamous Mormons of the Arizona Strip? In his book Under the Banner of Heaven, Jon Krakauer wrote that they had the highest welfare rate of any group of whites in the country.

    • Replies: @Anon
  122. @Hhsiii

    “Just out of college, my roommate was a guy in the music biz, sideline dealing weed. He would get random furniture off the street. Once he brought back a school chair. Some kid had carved a swastika on it and a peace sign. Maybe different kids. Also written on it was the phrase Gina C is a coke ho.”

    Wooden school desks all over New York had weird crap carved in them back in the day. Swastikas, curses, crude depictions of genitalia (male, primarily), hearts with initials, etc.

    For a long time I thought that “Bong!” meant a male erection, and not a device to smoke pot. The two were so often carved together. And Rorer 714 sounded to me like a bombing operation in Vietnam (an uncle was deployed there in intelligence), but it meant Quaaludes.

    I remember Gina C.

  123. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    We all know what Crispin Glover never said about Steven and what makes him feel so good, how he can feel like he’s the only guy in town, and so on, but Hollywood has gotten so brazenly hateful that a lot of Spielberg’s stuff regarding whites is a model of restraint by comparison. One racially neutral thing about Spielberg’s films that creeped me out once I noticed it is that he loves seeing humans reduced to cogs in a smoothly working machine, not in Fritz Lang’s satiric sense, but in the sense that this is the height of their being as people. There is almost always a scene in a Spielberg film something like the quality-control runthrough at the beginning of Cast Away, or the firefighters washing up at the beginning of Always, with tight choreography and some kind of herd operation. It’s like the screaming maggots in Samara Morgan’s dream: this is how he sees us.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  124. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Hhsiii

    The peace sign is a Nazi symbol by the way, it’s a rune signifying relaxation, death, surrender, and the grounding of energy. Reversed so the fork points up, it represents masculinity, activity, and so on.

    • Replies: @Anon
  125. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale

    The polygamous FLDS claim their welfare use is to “bleed the beast” – the beast being the US government.

    The hasidim are just following the talmudic instruction to take as much as possible from the gentiles in every interaction. You can’t fault them for being devout, can you?

    There is no way the polygamists beat the Hasids though. The big polygamous scam is just to get every woman and child on food stamps and wic. Since they can’t be legally married, they have legal status as single mothers. That can’t hold a candle to the extended litany of orthodox scams.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  126. @J.Ross

    Cast Away is directed by Zemeckis.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  127. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer

    But it is a Spielbergian scene, in a movie made by Spielberg’s company, by a friend and colleague of Spielberg.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  128. @J.Ross

    Okay, “Cast Away” has a scene about how efficient FedEx is … Zemeckis admires how FedEx can sort mail with remarkable efficiency. I do too.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  129. Tony says:

    Interesting about Zemekis, he looks like a member of the tribe. I thought he might be Greek, but it turns out its a Lithuanian name. He is Catholic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  130. Tony says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    And Curtis Sliwa who is a serious ass kicker.

  131. ATBOTL says:
    @Kaganovitch

    The neocon hath spoken: The real problem is goyish environmentalists.

  132. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I find no case of an umambiguously-Christian Schweber anywhere online. Literally none.

    There is also a H*ward Schweber at the University of Wisconsin who looks Jewish. Searches of “Schweber” on the genealogy site Geni.com also yield only Jews. Browse yourself, if inclined; the given names are all of this sort: Schlomo, Yitzchak, Shmuel, Moishe, Haim, Izaak, Rivka, Zvi.

    “Schweber” looks to be a very, very Jewish surname. It also appears in “A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia,” which would seem to close the case.

    ________

    It’s possible Nate Schweber is only half-Jewish and gets his outdoorsmanism and what you see as his German looks from his mother’s side.

    In the early 2000s, some rabbi claimed 1,000 Jews in Montana of a 900,000 total population at the time, which is indeed a tiny number (0.1%).

    What might have brought a Jew to Missoula in the 1970s, where Nate was born?

    Missoula is home to the University of Montana

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  133. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer

    This is a terrible example but there are other, legitimate ones, like the first scenes with the Russians in They’re Raping Him, or scenes in Jaws or Close Encounters. The clumsiest one is probably the Cursed Minivan in War of the Worlds, although the grenade sequence illustrates it also.

  134. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Hail

    “Jewishness” in some DNA sense should never be our case. If the most religiously and racially goy guy on Earth is an apologist for Zionism or globalism (eg, Ted Turner, who since the 90s has probably been the person most folks visualize as whitest white guy ever, besides the Birdwatcher), then he’s “them.” That way you’re judging behavior, which is exactly what you’re supposed to judge.

    • Replies: @Hail
  135. @Autochthon

    Well IMPO, clearly the most talented and inventive Jewish writers of the 20th cent. were the various Jewish press agents, flacks, hacks, book critics and academics who conned the public into thinking Norman Mailer, Philip Roth, Arthur Miller, Allen Ginsberg, Adrienne Rich and Susan Sontag were towering figures of American literature, and not the crass counterfeiters they were.

    That’s gotta fall under some weird category of brilliant, inventive “hate hoax.”

    Now, Neil Simon — there’s the Jewish literary genius pretty much fluffed up to its full height.

  136. Hail says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    If we were subject a steady stream of stories about how much Hindus mistreat Muslims in India, should we look into who is producing them? Should it matter if all the stories were written by grievance-soaked Muslims from India, and rarely or never by Hindus? I say, Yes, authorship in this case is a vital piece of information in evaluating what to make of said hypothetical stream of “Hindus bad; Muslims constantly terrorized” stories.

    Knowing ethnocultural identity and other forms of personal background of the pushers of Narrative Enforcement stories can be useful, may shed light on what’s really going on. It’s not the entirety of the story, but also not an irrelevant datapoint.

  137. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer

    I understand the Orthodox consider other Jews goyim.

    You understand wrongly.

    • Replies: @Ian M.
  138. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Wasn’t Victor Hugo Jewish? As well as the French guy who wrote the really long book about memory or the past or dreams?

    And wasn’t Cervantes a converso?

  139. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    A republic can not accomodate it, but an empire can – at least for a while.

    Why can’t it? And what is the difference between a republic and an empire?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  140. Anon[564] • Disclaimer says:

    Judaism’s texts literally call for the destruction of all other nations and both the gradual and eventual total genocide of all non-Jews.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with antisemitism. Antisemitism is loyalty to humanity.

    Antisemitism may be the highest universal morality at this stage.

  141. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tony

    Interesting about Zemekis, he looks like a member of the tribe. I thought he might be Greek, but it turns out its a Lithuanian name. He is Catholic.

    He may be a convert. Lithuania had a very large Jewish population.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  142. Anon[564] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Similarly, the cross is an iteration of the Jewish letter “Tav” that symbolizes death as the last letter in the Hebrew alphabet. Another form of Tav is the letter X (another form of the cross).

    To a religious Jew, Christians literally walk around with the symbol of death around their necks (cross pendants).

    For me, that Christianity came from the Jews, is said to be (as Esau) what the religious Jew hates, and the enemies of the Jews (the original Roman population but also Christian Europe as an symbolic extension of the Romans) were convinced to walk around with a Jewish symbol of death around their necks is not a coincidence.

    The swastika seems to strongly resemble the first letter in the Hebrew alphabet, Aleph, which symbolizes life. Jewish golems are brought to life by writing three letters on their foreheads, the first being the Aleph and the last being Tav (the middle being Mem, the middle letter). They are “killed” by erasing the Aleph, leaving only the Mem and Tav (death).

    If you want to piss off a religious Jew, write the name of his god or major prophets on a piece of paper and draw and “x” through the letters of the names.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  143. @Anonymous

    Some days, the absurd and cruel situation made us more anal-retentive than Freud could have imagined.

    People who run schools can be incredibly idiotic. Nothing new about that.

  144. @Anonymous

    I think “Montagu” is a nearly direct translation of his real name, Ehrenberg. “Sharp mountain”, for “noble mountain”. Where “Ashley” came from, ya got me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jack D
  145. @Anonymous

    Why can’t it? And what is the difference between a republic and an empire?

    Republics are small, homogeneous, and don’t have emperors.

    Real republics, anyway. The world is full of pseudorepublics.

  146. @WowJustWow

    In one of John Updike’s novels, someone in the boys’ or men’s (I forget which) lav would change the usual cussword to “BOOK” by adding a few curves. The narrator mused on just who would do this, and why.

  147. eah says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    I use a variant of Chrome (link) and was able to install it: the icon appeared — when I click on the icon, an empty comment thread for this page is loaded — so far it appears to work.

    • Replies: @eah
  148. @Hamlet's Ghost

    I know him well. He knows Lakewood inside and out.

  149. @Kaganovitch

    Yes, most go to larger schools, but there are over 130 private schools in Lakewood. Many solely for specific types of disabilities. The district pays more for busing than education.

  150. Yes, most go to larger schools, but there are over 130 private schools in Lakewood. Many solely for specific types of disabilities. The district pays more for busing than education.

    I know there are lots of private schools, what I’m questioning is if they are one or two classes in a private home or normal 1-8 schools with a smaller number of students. For your original point to have valence, a large number of buses would have to be under utilized,I.e. half empty or quarter empty trips. I don’t think that’s the case. The great majority of bus trips are near capacity. It makes minor budgetary difference if those trips are to a large school or a smaller school, although it does substantially contribute to traffic congestion. The big budgetary bite is the Court’s decision that private school transport is a public obligation. In districts like Lakewood with super high birth rates, that is a recipe for budgetary disaster.

  151. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    That homeless (non-Orthodox) Jewish guy featured in that Tent City piece had a Twitter account and last posted in 2013. https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeBerenzweig

    He and his wife featured in that RT piece were once well-off New Yorkers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8787722/Once-prosperous-New-Yorkers-forced-to-live-under-canvas-in-New-Jersey-woods.html

  152. eah says:
    @eah

    It has all kinds of interesting uses.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  153. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sontag?

  154. Jack D says:
    @Autochthon

    (P.S.: I remembered Jews often masquerade as Germans and Slavs, so I checked, and Kafka was indeed a Jew.)

    I’ll bet his family wished that they were better at masquarding. His three sisters were Gabriele (“Ellie”) (1889–1944), Valerie (“Valli”) (1890–1942) and Ottilie (“Ottla”) (1892–1943). Hmm, they died so young and all around the same time. I wonder what happened to them?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  155. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    If the British royal family can do it, then why not Montagu?

  156. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Gawd, you people would make terrible Jew spotters. You needed to brush up on your Poison Mushrooms – the book is on line. Zemeckis doesn’t “look Jewish” at all.

    Jews and Lithuanians look as different as Sicilians and Swedes. Genetically, this is not far off the mark.

    • Replies: @Anon1
  157. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    The hasidim are just following the talmudic instruction to take as much as possible from the gentiles in every interaction.

    Can you point out the Tractate in which this is stated? Or is this from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

    People here really need to brush up on their anti-Semitism. Your best bet is just to call it “anti-Zionism” – that’s much more up to date. The stuff I am seeing here reads like something out of the Dearborn Independent circa 1925. I’ll just 23-Skidoo in my Flivver now!

  158. Anonymous[931] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Hmm, they died so young and all around the same time. I wonder what happened to them?

    Typhus resulting from wartime deprivation throughout Central and Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  159. bomag says:
    @El Dato

    what blacks think of whites

    I suppose in some instances.

    Mainly they believe that there is a vast pot of money and status controlled by the Man; currently he is handing it out to White people; control of the pot needs to be seized and re-directed.

  160. Anon1 says:
    @bomag

    My guess is that elected officials and activists are extremely scared of Jewish power. They understand that if you take on the Orthodox, they’ll unleash the media and “civil rights” prosecutors on you. So maybe it’s just easier to harass flyover country Christian bakers, seeing as how they have minimal clout.

    Conservative Christian bakers are fair game for the left. Liberal gay rights activists are fair game for the right. Jews, whether Orthodox or secular, are never fair game.

    If you know what’s good for you, you don’t start fights with Jews.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    , @bomag
  161. Anon1 says:
    @Jack D

    Does Bernie Sanders look Jewish?

  162. anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Change that Matters

    Where IS that place where Jews play no role?

    I’ve been searching —

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  163. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    The Hispanic residents of Lakewood are from “around the world” but probably 90% or better of the Orthodox Jews are American born nowadays. There is a certain amount of back and forth from Israel, maybe some coming in from Montreal, but probably more Orthodox move TO Israel than from it to the US.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  164. Anonymous[931] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    That is consistent with the post you are replying to. And one was at Theresienstadt before she MC volunteered to go to Auschwitz to help.

  165. @eah

    I’ve installed, but how do you actually comment with Dissenter? Do you need a Gab account?

    btw the Financial Times crypto gurette Izabella Kaminska has reviewed it here

    https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/03/01/1551416400000/Introducing-the-shadow-comment-sector/

    (free to read Alphaville but you do have to register)

    • Replies: @eah
  166. @Anon1

    You do know that Orthodox schools are in trouble in NY over their secular curriculum? Somebody thinks they’re fair game.

  167. @Jack D

    95 percent is about right

  168. @anon

    Japan, China, India, Nepal

  169. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    I’m not seeing the cross part.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  170. @bomag

    like a car so broken it needs to be scrapped.

    What’s that? Car so broken it needs to scrapped, you say? The Lakewood Orthodox got you covered.

  171. Ian M. says:

    This is another example of how Jews are admirably adept at turning a Jews vs. Jews conflict into a The Whole World Is Out to Oppress Us Jews narrative. In contrast, the Lebanese and Syrians lack that knack, so they have enormous civil wars.

    The NYT employs the same sort of obfuscation when dealing with blacks attacking Jews in Crown Heights. So isn’t the simpler hypothesis that the liberal narrative of the white-Christian-patriarchal-oppressor-cum-innocent-minority-oppressee is driving the obfuscation in both cases? It’s more parsimonious: you have one theory that covers both cases (and more beyond) adequately rather than having to come up with a separate theory for each.

    That’s not to say that other factors such as ethnic solidarity might exacerbate the phenomenon in particular cases, but the commitment to the liberal narrative is dominant.

    As far as groups adept at obscuring their intramural conflicts from the outside world, my impression is that the Muslims in the West are pretty good at it: one doesn’t hear much about the Shia-Sunni conflict from them, and the lack of moderate Muslims criticizing their more extreme brethren is noticeable, much more noticeable I would say than any reticence on the part of secular Jewry to criticize their Hasidic brethren.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  172. Ian M. says:
    @AnotherDad

    There have been plenty of ‘multicultural’ polities that were not empires and that thrived. In fact, this is probably the norm in human history for any sort of society more advanced than the hunter-gatherer, nomadic, or clannish types. It has certainly been the norm for most of the history of the West.

    But while they were multi-ethnic, they were not ‘multi-cultural’ in the modern sense, which has an ideological component.

    At any rate, “one people-one nation” is simply not a necessary condition for a flourishing society.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  173. @J.Ross

    While anon’s thesis is deranged nonsense, the old Hebrew alphabet (pre- Babylonian exile) has a x like letter for tav. Search for ancient Hebrew alphabet.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  174. Ian M. says:
    @Anonymous

    Though Nathan is a pretty common Jewish name.

    Not that’s it’s unheard of among Christians.

    Though I agree he looks more German than Jewish.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  175. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Kaganovitch

    Okay, that I accept.
    I was afraid he was going to say that the cross is implied in the corner (in historical forms this is the case). But Hebrew letters are almost all variations of a square, as if they had a printing press but only squares for type, and made letters by breaking off a corner here or a wall there, or extending a line. So that implied cross at the corner would be on almost half the alphabet.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  176. Ian M. says:
    @Autochthon

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sailer-on-semitism-by-jonathan-weisman/#comment-2318343

    Me:

    Given their skill in storytelling and high verbal ability, it doesn’t seem that Jews are as over-represented in literature (especially as compared to other intellectual endeavors) as one might expect though.

    The big names there are probably Proust and Kafka. But they don’t really seem to measure up with the greatest gentile writers of the 19th and 20th centuries.

    In America, you’ve got a lot of Jewish names post ’50s: Salinger, Heller, Ginsberg, Mailer, Roth, etc. But I regard these authors as mostly worthless (Heller though is at least funny).

    Sailer:

    Jewish high end literary writers didn’t become common in America until after WWII with Bellow. On the other hand, Jews were very well represented in commercial writing — e.g., Broadway, movies, commercial fiction, songwriting etc. — from fairly early in the 20th Century. Bellow’s big reputation is related to being the first American Jewish writer to break through into the pantheon of novelists.

  177. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ian M.

    Nathan Blumenthal, the toyboy of Alice “Ayn Rand” Rosenbaum, renamed himself Nathaniel Branden. (‘Branden’ being an anagram of “ben Rand”)

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  178. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    But Hebrew letters are almost all variations of a square, as if they had a printing press

    That’s exactly what it is as if. The Hebrew letters you are thinking of are called “block letters” and they were designed for typesetting. Hebrew cursive is not at all block-ish and the ancient forms look closer to Greek than to the modern Hebrew alphabet.

    Both Hebrew and Greek alphabets are copied from the Phoenician alphabet but later diverged – in some respects the modern Hebrew alphabet diverged in shape even more.

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  179. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jack D

    You have that backwards. The basic recognizable form of Hebrew letters can be formed around varying a square, I’m not talking about the direct appearance but the (as it were) Platonic ideal, and the things that seem to contradict this are merely decorations that are not essential to identifying the letter (like the pennant that flies from the top of the L on hand-written documents). Of course nowadays Hebrew has as many specialized fonts as any other system, and many are simplified for clarity or drama, but they don’t redesign the fundamental nature of the letter, they trim or add serifs.

  180. @Marty T

    Marty T, meet Michael Kadar.

  181. @Anonymous

    The Ben Rand business seems to have been started by iirc Nora Ephron . Branden himself repudiated the anagram etymology and denied knowing any Hebrew at all.Fwiw

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  182. bomag says:
    @Anon1

    Does helping the town of KJ with pointed legislation buy the governor anything? The courts ruled against them, and I understand KJ isn’t too popular with secular Jews.

    Why feed a tumor?

  183. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ian M.

    but the commitment to the liberal narrative is dominant.

    Nope. One need only look at their support of the Zionist entity to appreciate what a sham their liberal “principles” are.

  184. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ian M.

    There have been plenty of ‘multicultural’ polities that were not empires and that thrived.

    And yet you were unable to name even one.

  185. @Anonymous

    They have to insulate themselves to survive globalization and risk of intermarriage.

    OK. There’s an historical precedent for that: the vanished Jewish population of China. There were apparently Jewish trading outposts in China [1] and along the Silk Road, and I’ve seen references to a synagogue in Peking, but the entire population seems to have vanished during the early Middle Ages . This suggests that a long term Jewish population can vanish utterly under the weight of Chinese Imperial government (and perhaps its modern analog). Certainly the Jewish population in the Middle East (outside of Israel) has largely vanished, along with the Christian population. So, concentration in one place has some justification in history.

    However — it also shows a breakdown in an historic strength of Judaism: an ability to persist in foreign countries as a diaspora. Judaism survived the Roman Empire largely because it had three geographic components, and the three never quite revolted (and lost heavily) simultaneously. Judaism survived Late Antiquity and the Arab Conquests for very similar reasons. I’ve seen speculation that Judaism has survived so long because it transformed itself (during the Babylonian Exile) into a resilient social organization that could not be destroyed by conquest, killing the upper class, and exile. All such measures did was to establish a new trade route with Jewish populations (hence a common law concerning trade) on both ends of the trade route, at least for Jewish traders.

    If the Jews have lost that, they should be working on getting it back, not finding the highest concentration of their current enemies, setting up a country dependent entirely on aid from the US, and trying to destabilize the US, while convincing the diaspora to identify themselves not as believing in Judaism, but believing that their host societies have to be destabilized as a matter of self defense. Such a project may be executed with perfect tactics, and still be strategically, ah, counterproductive. So smart and so stupid.

    Here’s where HBD and J. Peterson’s explanations of basic human psychology come in: HBD is driven by evolution, not rational goals, and the basic drives that evolve as part of HBD aren’t rational and cannot be suppressed for very long. On a very deep level, people do not determine what they do. Don’t believe me? Try the Gilgamesh test, and do without sleep for the next month. That’s what suppressing a basic drive is like.
    So I’m being foolish for pointing out that a certain group acts as it acts. Except that such information might be useful in predicting events.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China

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  186. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kaganovitch

    Nora Ephron seems like one of the few Jewish celeb women I would have liked knowing.

    ( My dad, of course, knew Susan Sontag in the biblical sense, but that’s another story.)

    She revealed Mark Felt to be “Deep Throat” a long time before he finally was outed, but no one listened to her.

    Branden may have not consciously picked “Branden” because of the anagram but it doesn’t take “Knowing Hebrew” to know that “ben” means “son of” if you have any biblical or literary Jewish experience whatsoever, so it might have been subconscious: nevertheless there it is.

    He was rogering the living daylights out of Rand, with the open knowledge of each others’ spouses, for a long time but eventually decided it was weird, decided the rogering had to end, and Rand went ballistic and threw him out of her life and philosophy en toto. Both he and his wife Barbara wrote pretty good books on the whole thing.

    (The movie starring Helen Mirren is a little too PG rated: Mirren being one of the few women of her age one wants to see all of….)

    Rand was not stupid-she was highly intelligent-but she was not all there morally or emotionally.
    Her system of “philosophy”, Objectivism, was and is superficially alluring but ultimately fails for the same reason Marxism-Leninism does: it’s fundamentally at odds with human nature. It and M-L can be thought of as a short and open circuit respectively (or vice versa) on the Smith Chart, where success 9as in maximum energy transfer) can be pictured as the load and output impedances matching. In this way the Smith Chart perfectly mirrors economic reality in the way that the lift/drag curve of an airfoil mirrors the Laffer Curve.

    People who agreed with Rand in principle economically but who could not abide her personal pecadilloes and vendettas went on to form the Libertarian Party. In her later years, and after her death her heir and attack poodle Leonard Peikoff (she had no natural or adopted children: she’d made her husband Frank O’Connor get a vasectomy when that was uncommon and considered repellent) spent a lot of time directing vitriol on the LP, one writer under Poodle’s influence writing a screed called Libertarianism: The Perversion of Liberty.

    https://estore.aynrand.org/p/509/libertarianism-the-perversion-of-liberty-booklet

  187. eah says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    At the moment I think you need to sign-up for a gab account — not sure if that will change in the future or not — if you installed the extension, and it works to the point that you get a pop-up comment thread (probably empty) for the web page you’re currently on when you click the extension icon, then you also see an invitation to sign-in or sign-up.

  188. @Anonymous

    Yes, a very bright woman but deeply deranged. Really charismatic, without being attractive too. Not a lot of women could pull that off – Emma Goldman maybe

  189. @Anonym

    Used my LOL already, sadly, because this post really deserves it.

    The first few comments are good too:

    “I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!
    …Barnes & Noble still exists?”

    ———————————-
    “They no longer carry books actually. After Amazon basically drove them out of the book business, their new CEO focused on the only part of the business model that appealed to customers. The free public restrooms.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  190. @Mr McKenna

    The Barnes & Noble I go to is about the same as always, which is pretty good. B&N outlasted Tower Books, so it likely will mostly survive until the next economic downturn.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  191. @Reg Cæsar

    Wh0a, that’s harsh, which is n0t t0 say inaccurate..

  192. @AnotherDad

    When the actual F are you gonna get off your duff and run for president?

  193. @Anonymous

    “Mirren being one of the few women of her age one wants to see all of….”

    You should see Savage Messiah, the 1972 Ken Russell biopic of the sculptor Henri Gaudier. Ms Mirren, then in her physical prime, makes a tremendous entrance down a long staircase and is very much all there.

    (The film’s also graced by the still elfin at 42 Dorothy Tutin)

  194. @Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    we drink the blood of baby Christians etc.

    It’s “Christian babies”. Hatred noted

  195. @Counterinsurgency

    Judaism survived the Roman Empire largely because it had three geographic components, and the three never quite revolted (and lost heavily) simultaneously.

    Or, perhaps, because over the 1500 or so years of the Roman Empire, it wasn’t especially genocidal.

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