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The New York Times is trying to convince Trump that he is being betrayed by his staffers John Kelly and Stephen Miller:

A President Not Sure of What He Wants Complicates the Shutdown Impasse
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MAGGIE HABERMAN JAN. 21, 2018

WASHINGTON — When President Trump mused last year about protecting immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, calling them “these incredible kids,” aides implored him privately to stop talking about them so sympathetically.

When he batted around the idea of granting them citizenship over a Chinese dinner at the White House last year with Democratic leaders, Mr. Trump’s advisers quickly drew up a list of hard-line demands to send to Capitol Hill that they said must be included in any such plan.

And twice over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has privately told lawmakers he is eager to strike a deal to extend legal status to the so-called Dreamers, only to have his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller, make clear afterward that such a compromise was not really in the offing — unless it also included a host of stiffer immigration restrictions.

But, his favorite NYT reporter also can’t help herself from insulting Trump.

Great strategy, NYT. The surest way to get Donald Trump to side with what you demand for the good of the Democratic Party electing a new electorate is to insult his intelligence.

Your strategy is foolproof! There’s nothing Trump like more than being played for a fool. What could possibly go wrong?

 
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  1. Joe Walker says: • Website
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    "Proud" Jews pushing for more Muslim immigration into the USA and Europe, but no mention of Israel. Hypocrisy of the worst type -- ruining someone else's homeland while protecting your own, while acting self-righteous about it.
    , @Pat Boyle
    I'll say what I always say about immigration - "Save the Whales"!!
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  2. IHTG says:

    Another Miller article – “Stephen Miller: Immigration agitator and White House survivor”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-agitator-and-white-house-survivor/2018/01/21/7a1f7778-fcae-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Everything except for the part where he is getting blamed"

    Not plausible, so I don't think he cares.

    "and/or risking his base fleeing"

    Is that happening? He would be risking it if he gives up on the Wall, but that's the opposite of what's happening. Appearing as if he actually wants Dreamers to stay is risky, but if Dreamers stay and he gets the Wall, eh, I don't know.

    In any case, he's obviously Winning™ right now, so what's the worry?

    Oh, right, the worry is that he IS winning. That headline would be more accurate if it read: Trump Might Be Sure What He Wants on Immigration, Shutdown Works Against Our Side for Once, Run for the Hills!

    , @J.Ross
    Miller's not really replaceable. All those guys that left were not really necessary and Bannon arguably never should have joined the cabinet. Miller's different.
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  3. IHTG says:

    The attitude of Maggie Haberman towards Trump is interesting. Despite being a conventional NYC liberal Jewish lady, she clearly just can’t bring herself to HATE HATE HATE him, much to the anger of her #Resistance readership. The impression one gets is of some aging auntie who is constantly upset at her favorite bad boy for misbehaving – but he’s still her boy!

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    The attitude of Maggie Haberman towards Trump is interesting. Despite being a conventional NYC liberal Jewish lady, she clearly just can’t bring herself to HATE HATE HATE him, much to the anger of her #Resistance readership. The impression one gets is of some aging auntie who is constantly upset at her favorite bad boy for misbehaving – but he’s still her boy!
     
    It's two things I think: the first is what Steve mentioned in the OP: ie, to insult, or more likely intimidate Trump into flipping the immigration issue. Ie, All The Kool Kids are pro-immigration, you don't want to be one of the weird ones do you?

    The second is the outside game, which is probably more important. Ie, sigh, we all know Trump is an idiot don't we. We don't want to be a nativist like he is. The good news is that I don't think this is likely not working. I haven't head a thing about the shutdown from non-political sources, much different than 2013. The structure of shutdowns, as they currently are, seems to favor the executive. If it all works out right, there is a chance that DACA will go away, plus some small or medium gain in the opinion polls due to the Democrats' radicalism on the situation.
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  4. Zogby says:

    It’s Davis and Haberman that come out as saps, because Trump is just playing good-cop bad-cop with them and they’re falling for it hook line and sinker.

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  5. I think the NYT isn’t as smart as it thinks.

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    New York Times journos
    New York Times journos
    New York Times journos
    Ain't too smart
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOmkPrhpQGQ
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  6. JimB says:

    If Maggie Haberman is so smart, how come she isn’t a billionaire?

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  7. D. K. says:

    OT:

    Today is the 45th anniversary of the Monday on which the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Roe v. Wade. Late that afternoon, Lyndon Baines Johnson died, at age 64, two days after a second full term as president might have ended for him, had he continued his 1968 reelection campaign and defeated Richard Milhous Nixon. LBJ’s death left the United States with no living former presidents. That ended with President Nixon’s resignation, just over a year and a half later– and is unlikely to be repeated, anytime soon.

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    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970's.

    But it's not like I really want ex-presidents around, personally, mainly because of the way they've been running their mouths over the last few decades (with the exception of my many Ronnie - and partially Jimmy C.). Also they cost taxpayers money in full-time secret-service protection. I wonder if that gets turned off during gov't shutdowns?
    , @nebulafox
    On top of that, the Paris Peace Accords would at long last be signed, after many months of repeated missteps. America's role in the Second Indochinese War was over.

    I think it isn't too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart. Kissinger summed it up best in his autobiography: it was like barring a surgeon at the height of his prowess from the only thing he really cared about. He just really went in a downward spiral out in the ranch after '68. Nixon-a President who knew something himself about heartbreak-more or less confirmed this is in his own book.

    I don't think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon's resignation was. The phrase "perfect storm" is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. And even then, but for his decision to record his own words in the Oval Office, he would have survived and served out his term, if crippled and a de facto lame duck in domestic policy like Reagan after Iran-Contra or Clinton after Lewinsky.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Ahh crap, my apologies, D.K. I guess I didn't catch the 45 years part, and thought LBJ died before 1972, when Truman did. My bad.

    Steve, you could just not moderate either of these 2 comments, or else leave 'em both. Thanks.
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  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Aides said this, advisors said that. That’s “New Journalism” for “We made this up.”

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  9. There’s a lot of media focus on Miller atm, the thrust being that Miller is Bannon* 2.0, riding on the coat tails of The Great Deal-Maker (formerly the New Hitler, but that didn’t work) to push his own agenda.

    They’re hoping that Trump won’t like a staffer getting more attention than he does and will say “you’re fired”. The same thing will happen to any Trump appointment who looks like they want to implement the platform Trump ran on.

    * AFAIK Bannon wasn’t actually doing that, but it’s the Narrative.

    PS – BBC only ever quote Flake or Ryan when they want a “Republican” view.

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  10. Jason Liu says:

    Translation: Trump tricked us on immigration so we’ll claim he was actually flip-flopping

    The games these people play. Gotta give them credit though, they know how to shape narratives much better than right wing media, which mostly just reacts to stuff.

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  11. eah says:

    Haberman is Jewish — probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don’t call it the ‘Jew York Times’ for nothing) — re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

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    From Rob's view in Brentwood and Malibu, diversity is workin out great!
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Rob, nothing as profound as Bumper Sticker quotes.
    , @guest
    If you don't lay down and let brown people invade your country, you're a racist. That was our clever trick, see. Make racism the worst sin possible, then use other races to get what we want. You can't do anything, because every reaction but passive compliance is by definition racist.

    They didn't plan on us not caring whether we're called racists, however.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    says Meathead Reiner from his 99% white community and 99% white neighborhood.

    Let's flood Reiner's house with illegals. Any objection to that would boil down to one thing: REINER'S RACISM. Frightened to death of the browning of his household and community. He hates diversity.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Oh, stifle yourself, Meathead!

    OK, yeah, Buck T. beat me to it.
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  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    *THE* finer point about massive uncontrolled third immigration into the USA is that, inevitably, it will turn the USA into just another non northern western-hemisphere style shit-hole.

    - and that’s just the finer point. The blunter point is even cruder and more general than that.

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  13. dearieme says:

    OT: while y’all rightly shake with apprehension at what the next skullduggery from the FBI, CIA, or NSA might be, cheer yourselves up by contemplating the incompetence of the people involved. They’re such mugs that a 15-year old can dance rings around their security procedures.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5290787/Boy-15-posed-head-CIA-secret-files.html

    Still, it doesn’t seem to inhibit the FBI from murdering US citizens, staging a slow-motion coup against a President, or manfully saving the USA from a terrorist attack on 9/11. Hang on; the latter would have called for competence …

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    If the murmurings on the fringes of the interwebs are anything to go by, the NSA, along with military intelligence more broadly, has lined up with Trump and is using its universal reach to rip the guts out of the globalists and their factota in the CIA and FBI.

    Search: 'Qanon'.
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  14. The New York Times can smell the demographic destruction of the Republican Party and the United States with each new amnesty of illegal alien invaders and each new yearly total of legal entrants to the United States. President Trump knows damn well that he won the presidency by appealing to Whites on the issues of national identity and his campaign claim to reduce legal immigration and stop illegal immigration cold. Any legal recognition of any illegal alien invaders will be seen by Trump’s voter base as a treasonous stab in the back.

    NO AMNESTY OR LEGALIZATION FOR ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW

    President Trump is smart enough to know that he gains nothing politically if he cravenly capitulates to the Democrats on immigration. President Trump will be conspiring with Democrats to hasten the demographic destruction of the United States.

    President Trump must stand strong like a stonewall and side with the people of the United States against the evil globalizers who want to keep pouring more and more legal and illegal immigrant infiltrators into the United States.

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  15. @D. K.
    OT:

    Today is the 45th anniversary of the Monday on which the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Roe v. Wade. Late that afternoon, Lyndon Baines Johnson died, at age 64, two days after a second full term as president might have ended for him, had he continued his 1968 reelection campaign and defeated Richard Milhous Nixon. LBJ's death left the United States with no living former presidents. That ended with President Nixon's resignation, just over a year and a half later-- and is unlikely to be repeated, anytime soon.

    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970′s.

    But it’s not like I really want ex-presidents around, personally, mainly because of the way they’ve been running their mouths over the last few decades (with the exception of my many Ronnie – and partially Jimmy C.). Also they cost taxpayers money in full-time secret-service protection. I wonder if that gets turned off during gov’t shutdowns?

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    Truman died a month before LBJ.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I don't begrudge them some secret service protection, assuming it's not too expensive, and that they behave themselves: e.g., refrain from trading on the power of their office (as with the Clinton's bribery racket).

    What I do really dislike are the Presidential libraries, for a variety of reasons:

    1.) It is a waste of the public's money to run and maintain them

    2.) The raising of money to build them just provides another way to obligate a President to private interests. I.e., it is also a form of bribery.

    3.) It is unseemly, in a Republic, for Presidents to erect shrines to their memory - for any President to do so, and certainly for all of them to do it. They are supposed to be public servants, not emperors / demi-Gods.
    , @AnotherDad


    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970′s.
     
    Sorry Achmed, but D.K. is correct.

    Eisenhower died in '69 and Truman in late '72. D.K. is taking about January 22, 1973.

    And yeah, it was a weird news day--at least for me. I wasn't even aware that the Roe was being litigated, and my reaction was something akin to "Huh? that makes no sense. What the heck does that have to do with the constitution?" (Part of a process of awakening.) Then news Johnson had died off that afternoon. Strange day.
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  16. The Z Blog says: • Website

    It’s fascinating to watch both left-wing Progressives and right-wing Progressives flail around trying to come to terms with Trump and the emerging white populism. Her whole life she was trained to make guys like David Brooks feel bad about not going along with the latest Progressive fads. The attempts to use these tricks on Trump is like primitives hurling spears at tanks.

    Interesting bio of Mx Haberman. She is the daughter of Clyde Haberman, a journalist for The New York Times. She is a 1991 graduate of Ethical Culture Fieldston School, an independent preparatory school in New York City. She then attended Sarah Lawrence College, a private liberal arts college in New York . She married the son of Vartan Gregorian, an Iranian born Armenian, whose father was an executive of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company.

    Our ruling class does not look like America, does it?

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    What is a right wing progressive?
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  17. President Trump must not give in to the Democrats and the GOP open borders immigration faction by granting amnesty to any kind of illegal alien invaders whatsoever.

    Got to hell Charles Schumer and Lindsey Graham!

    President Trump must win the US Senate seats in states he did well in against Hillary Clinton. Trump must not stab his voter base in the back by giving AMNESTY to illegal alien invaders.

    Paul Kane, Washington Post:

    But the public view shifts if voters think the government is shuttering because of the immigration issue, particularly in five states that Trump won in 2018 by overwhelming margins and where Democratic senators face reelection in November: Indiana, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota and West Virginia.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/jurys-out-on-winners-and-losers-in-latest-shutdown-standoff/2018/01/18/b5dd2a82-fc7f-11e7-ad8c-ecbb62019393_story.html?utm_term=.300f701e0e97

    Baby Boomer James Woods:

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  18. Gunner says:

    Carlos Slim demands results from his subjects. That why the NYT is so overwhelmed.

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  19. One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he’s “thin-skinned.” Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn’t folded under nearly three years of the media’s savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn’t give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

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    Harry, black skin seems to be much thinner than white skin. On display anytime any one criticizes any black person of note....prime examples would be Obama, Holder and TNC.
    , @nebulafox
    I think Trump is incredibly thin-skinned, but not *quite* in the same way the press thinks he is. He objects less to insults and caricature-the man loves publicity and doesn't mind playing the fool, as his appearances on WWE should attest to-than to challenges to his authority or implications of impotence. Reality irks him less than its image. I don't think the distinction doesn't matter all that much in the end, really, given the nature of modern American politics.

    On Reagan: I think this maturity was partially a function of Reagan's age. JFK and Nixon, in particular, were really, really determined to be remembered as "great", and that led both into some pretty dumb, hasty decisions. Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say? It wasn't as if he was going to be around to hear them.

    The NYT's major mistake is less making fun of him than implicitly implying that he doesn't have the authority as President to have a say in immigration policy, unless it is to agree with him. That'll set him off.

    , @Clyde

    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he’s “thin-skinned.” Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn’t folded under nearly three years of the media’s savage mockery.
     
    Amazing and wonderful that Trump has not caved. But he has made some concessions to this relentless pounding by appointing useless liberals to some positions, with Rod Rosenstein in Justice being the epitome of saboteur. Can you imagine anyone under Eric Holder messing with Obama this way?
    Trump being unstable? Libs are only able to promote this perception because Trump has to do his own PR via tweets with many of them being strategically provocative. Many Trump tweets are designed to jerk around the press and move them in certain direction. To get them to do Trump's bidding.
    Obama had the luxury of the media being his butt buddies so that lazy-ass Obama could fake it at being a statesman and above the fray.
    , @Pericles
    Yeah, I guess making a living in New York real estate leads to thin skin.
    , @Boethiuss

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn’t give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.
     
    The difference is, Nancy Reagan cared about what the NYT thought of her husband. Ivanka cares about what the NYT thinks about her.
    , @guest
    When they read history (if they read history) what do they think of all those men who fought duels, putting their lives on the line over petty insults to their honor? A bunch of thin-skinned mama's boys, too afraid to let it roll off their backs? Compensating for small penises, no doubt.

    Real men have no honor, and let people walk all over them. Hint-hint.
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  20. Spud Boy says:

    The stages of Trump Derangement Syndrome proceed along these lines:

    1. Trump is literally Hitler.
    2. OK, Trump isn’t Hitler, but he’s incompetent.
    3. OK, Trump isn’t incompetent, but he’s ineffective.
    4. OK, Trump is effective, but I don’t like what he’s doing.

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    The stages of Trump Derangement Syndrome proceed along these lines:

    1. Trump is literally Hitler.
    2. OK, Trump isn’t Hitler, but he’s incompetent.
    3. OK, Trump isn’t incompetent, but he’s ineffective.
    4. OK, Trump is effective, but I don’t like what he’s doing.
     
    Followed by step 5:

    5. OK, Trump is literally Hitler.
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  21. @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    Harry, black skin seems to be much thinner than white skin. On display anytime any one criticizes any black person of note….prime examples would be Obama, Holder and TNC.

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  22. Article reminds me of the child’s ploy….if you don’t get you want from mom, ask dad. Ask dad if mom doesn’t side with you. Makes sense because this is a childish article from the NYT.

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  23. nebulafox says:
    @D. K.
    OT:

    Today is the 45th anniversary of the Monday on which the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Roe v. Wade. Late that afternoon, Lyndon Baines Johnson died, at age 64, two days after a second full term as president might have ended for him, had he continued his 1968 reelection campaign and defeated Richard Milhous Nixon. LBJ's death left the United States with no living former presidents. That ended with President Nixon's resignation, just over a year and a half later-- and is unlikely to be repeated, anytime soon.

    On top of that, the Paris Peace Accords would at long last be signed, after many months of repeated missteps. America’s role in the Second Indochinese War was over.

    I think it isn’t too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart. Kissinger summed it up best in his autobiography: it was like barring a surgeon at the height of his prowess from the only thing he really cared about. He just really went in a downward spiral out in the ranch after ’68. Nixon-a President who knew something himself about heartbreak-more or less confirmed this is in his own book.

    I don’t think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon’s resignation was. The phrase “perfect storm” is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. And even then, but for his decision to record his own words in the Oval Office, he would have survived and served out his term, if crippled and a de facto lame duck in domestic policy like Reagan after Iran-Contra or Clinton after Lewinsky.

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    "I don’t think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon’s resignation was. The phrase “perfect storm” is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. "
     
    If Mueller's investigation unravels, as perhaps it will, we may have the perfect storm of a reverse Watergate, in which the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community rather than his crooked defenders. That would be great theatre but might distract from the vital issues (vital for Trump as well as the country) going into the fall: real trade and immigration reform. Trump, the man who doesn't have time for a grudge, might do better to show clemency to his enemies, even as he cleans out the Augean stables of the previous two administrations.

    But I fantasize.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Woulda coulda shoulda is the stock and trade of historians.

    If only LBJ hadn't resigned, perhaps he could've been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in '68.

    If only the Plumbers had gotten away with it, Nixon would've finished his second term without distraction.

    If only Tom Brady had thrown that interception late in the fourth quarter, JX would have won the game.

    If only, if only.

    If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd have Christmas every day.

    At end of day, we do have to live in the real world and what DID happen, and not what we wish it to be.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I think it isn’t too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart.
     
    Broken liver, anyway. Even while he was still President, at least towards the end of his term, Johnson was reportedly knocking down a bottle of Cutty Sark a day. If you drink like Jim Morrison, you're probably gonna die like Jim Morrison.
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  24. nebulafox says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    I think Trump is incredibly thin-skinned, but not *quite* in the same way the press thinks he is. He objects less to insults and caricature-the man loves publicity and doesn’t mind playing the fool, as his appearances on WWE should attest to-than to challenges to his authority or implications of impotence. Reality irks him less than its image. I don’t think the distinction doesn’t matter all that much in the end, really, given the nature of modern American politics.

    On Reagan: I think this maturity was partially a function of Reagan’s age. JFK and Nixon, in particular, were really, really determined to be remembered as “great”, and that led both into some pretty dumb, hasty decisions. Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say? It wasn’t as if he was going to be around to hear them.

    The NYT’s major mistake is less making fun of him than implicitly implying that he doesn’t have the authority as President to have a say in immigration policy, unless it is to agree with him. That’ll set him off.

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    Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say?<
     
    I agree with that, but that's not the case for lots of politicians even when they are old. The commie Merkel over in Germany is no spring chicken herself, but, according to Nick Styx of VDare (and I really like his term) is just "obituary shopping". Lots of these people DO care what people will think of them after they are dead, and that's still a problem, because their ideals that they want to be remembered for are still wrong and evil.

    Ronnie Reagan was a really prinicipled man - I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies. People keep getting on him about the amnesty, but Reagan's problem was that he was too trusting of Americans - the ones in the government, that is.
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  25. rogue-one says:

    The strategy did sort of work with Bannon (correct me if I am wrong). Media showed Bannon as a master manipulator of a childish, almost buffoonish, Trump which may have played a crucial role in Bannon’s downfall. Times is assuming that Trump doesn’t like being portrayed as a stupid guy being manipulated by his smarter aides which may create a rift between Trump and his aides allowing Mr Schumer to get his immigration law passed.

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    The message spread by the left-media is that a cult of crypto-Nazis have secretly taken over the GOP, backed by large sums of Russian cash and paid trolls. The left-media is therefore "speaking truth to power" and "resisting" an illegitimate government.

    Bannon has been exposed as a slob alcoholic that repeatedly leaked to the press, and held delusions of running for office himself. The end came for him and Gorka after the Charlottesville response fiasco, where political capital was wasted for the feelz of Richard Spencer.
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    So he admits there is a war against white America lead by rich, influencial Jews encouraging "Brown" shock troops.
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  27. Rod1963 says:

    I doubt Trump cares what some nobody at the NYT writes about him and that’s exactly what those writers at the NYT are – nobodies. Really who cares what a bunch of paid hacks who hate whites and Western civilization say about a person.

    They are nothing more than propagandists working for a modern day version of Pravda.

    More to the point Trump probably views all of the MSM as his enemies and promoters of lies so he’s doesn’t care what they say about him. He knows full well they’ve been demonizing since he started his campaign. So they have no gravitas with him, none.

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    Malibu is so diverse.
    , @Forbes
    Another clueless lefty still spewing the racism card. Apparently, he hasn't figured out that yelling racism (attempting to shame his political opponents) doesn't work. You'd think someone so shameless would notice, but you'd be wrong.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Make no mistake, this shutdown boils down to one thing: RACISM. GOP frightened to death of the browning of America. They will lose this last big battle of the Civil War. Diversity is our strength.

    — Rob Reiner (@robreiner) January 21, 2018
     
    Rob Reiner's support for no-growth policies in Malibu proves that he's frightened of the browning of the town where he own's property.
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  29. JohnnyD says:

    “Finner parts of the immigration debate” really means mindlessly reciting Emma Lazarus’s poem and talking about diverse restaurants. I’m pretty sure Stephen Miller would demolish Ms. Haberman in a serious debate about immigration, which is why the left keeps complaining about his influence.

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    The "finer" parts are always "my" parts in the debate. Since "you" don't agree with my argument it must be "you" who doesn't understand.

    It couldn't be that my argument falls short...
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  30. Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years – circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the “resistance.” A government shutdown is manna for the NYT – real world consequences for their readers – small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates – tremendous.

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    But Trump is running into the "North Vietnam problem" here: no deal can take place with the Democrats except on their own intractable terms. The only way of changing that is giving them literally no other alternative but to settle for something less and fight on another day. It took a massive 4-month strategic bombing campaign in 1972 that destroyed the entire infrastructure of the country, the defeat of a major conventional military offensive with casualties numbering in six digits, and their allies in Moscow and Beijing bluntly ignoring them for this to happen to Le Duan-and even then, it took some pushing from Le Duc Tho. What will it take for the DNC and their intellectual allies, who-in that tit-for-tat, almost Newtonian manner so characteristic of modern American politics have simply grown steeply more radical on immigration with Trump in office?

    PS: Dear media, this is a *real* resistance:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Warsaw_Uprising_by_Tomaszewski_-_Mazowiecka_1.jpg

    This is not:

    https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/TJRFVfBvlV3G_n1XmUvlkoEyfQY=/950x534/filters:quality(90)/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F363992%2F74ae86b9-1714-450a-8675-ef95f5cbf10a.jpg

    I personally find it deeply insulting to things like the Warsaw Uprising-remember, the penalty for any form of non-compliance in German occupied Poland was summary execution, as like many other Slavic nations, the Nazis intended to destroy the Polish nation wholesale in the long run in Generalplan Ost-to debase the word like this.

    , @Twodees Partain
    "The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years – circulation is up,"

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.

    It's more accurate to say that their circulation is fast becoming nonexistent.
    , @Nico
    Incredibly, NY Times and WaPo circulation is up despite the quality of their reporting - in terms of factual accuracy, analytical logic and technical linguistic integrity alike - having never been so dismal. This is most certainly the last gasp for these periodicals as well as for any twerps who count them as cornerstones of any “movement.” The obvious problem is that they will do a great deal of mischief before they run out of fuel. The prospect that they may succeed in taking down American society, at long last, along with themselves does appear to be on the horizon.
    , @Dmitry
    Yes, Trump's 'arrival on the scene' has been like discovering a gold-mine for the NYT, at least in terms of digital subscribers (i.e. people who don't know how to clear the cookies on their browser).

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/business/new-york-times-company-2q-earnings.html?
    , @guest
    They think of themselves as the Resistance when there's nothing lording over them, and even when there's no opposition to speak of. There's always gotta be a revanchist somewhere, undercover wreckers, KKK members under the bed and Benazir in the closet.

    It must give them dopamine hits to be actually losing a little ground, but they prefer to be actually winning, and pressing home their advantage, always. It can't feel good enough to watch Trump not be destroyed everyday to make up for it not being the Obama-Clinton era anymore.

    Anyway, the NYT and WaPo aren't about circulation, even if it is up. Otherwise, their business would've been run very differently for a long time. There's a reason people came up with terms like the Bezos/Carlos Slim Blogs. They want influence, which they still have, but they always want to be winning.

    They're branches of the Cathedral, and the Cathedral rules. That's what it does. They aren't content to trade unopposed influence-peddling over deciders for increased readership.

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  31. Moses says:

    I’m sure Hirschfeld Davis and Haberman have our President’s best interests at heart.

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  32. Clyde says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he’s “thin-skinned.” Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn’t folded under nearly three years of the media’s savage mockery.

    Amazing and wonderful that Trump has not caved. But he has made some concessions to this relentless pounding by appointing useless liberals to some positions, with Rod Rosenstein in Justice being the epitome of saboteur. Can you imagine anyone under Eric Holder messing with Obama this way?
    Trump being unstable? Libs are only able to promote this perception because Trump has to do his own PR via tweets with many of them being strategically provocative. Many Trump tweets are designed to jerk around the press and move them in certain direction. To get them to do Trump’s bidding.
    Obama had the luxury of the media being his butt buddies so that lazy-ass Obama could fake it at being a statesman and above the fray.

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  33. Pericles says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    Yeah, I guess making a living in New York real estate leads to thin skin.

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  34. Luke Lea says:

    Trump truly is crazy like a fox. The cynical idealist as vulgarian (he really is a vulgarian, bless his heart) who hides his smarts under a bushel. Does he have an 88 word vocabulary in private, too? I’ve heard of gaslighting. What do you call it when you try to convince someone that he is stupid?

    (If he really were stupid, what would that say about his opponents, whom he slays by the dozens?)

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  35. nebulafox says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years - circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the "resistance." A government shutdown is manna for the NYT - real world consequences for their readers - small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates - tremendous.

    But Trump is running into the “North Vietnam problem” here: no deal can take place with the Democrats except on their own intractable terms. The only way of changing that is giving them literally no other alternative but to settle for something less and fight on another day. It took a massive 4-month strategic bombing campaign in 1972 that destroyed the entire infrastructure of the country, the defeat of a major conventional military offensive with casualties numbering in six digits, and their allies in Moscow and Beijing bluntly ignoring them for this to happen to Le Duan-and even then, it took some pushing from Le Duc Tho. What will it take for the DNC and their intellectual allies, who-in that tit-for-tat, almost Newtonian manner so characteristic of modern American politics have simply grown steeply more radical on immigration with Trump in office?

    PS: Dear media, this is a *real* resistance:

    This is not:

    I personally find it deeply insulting to things like the Warsaw Uprising-remember, the penalty for any form of non-compliance in German occupied Poland was summary execution, as like many other Slavic nations, the Nazis intended to destroy the Polish nation wholesale in the long run in Generalplan Ost-to debase the word like this.

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  36. Luke Lea says:
    @nebulafox
    On top of that, the Paris Peace Accords would at long last be signed, after many months of repeated missteps. America's role in the Second Indochinese War was over.

    I think it isn't too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart. Kissinger summed it up best in his autobiography: it was like barring a surgeon at the height of his prowess from the only thing he really cared about. He just really went in a downward spiral out in the ranch after '68. Nixon-a President who knew something himself about heartbreak-more or less confirmed this is in his own book.

    I don't think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon's resignation was. The phrase "perfect storm" is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. And even then, but for his decision to record his own words in the Oval Office, he would have survived and served out his term, if crippled and a de facto lame duck in domestic policy like Reagan after Iran-Contra or Clinton after Lewinsky.

    “I don’t think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon’s resignation was. The phrase “perfect storm” is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. “

    If Mueller’s investigation unravels, as perhaps it will, we may have the perfect storm of a reverse Watergate, in which the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community rather than his crooked defenders. That would be great theatre but might distract from the vital issues (vital for Trump as well as the country) going into the fall: real trade and immigration reform. Trump, the man who doesn’t have time for a grudge, might do better to show clemency to his enemies, even as he cleans out the Augean stables of the previous two administrations.

    But I fantasize.

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    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    , @David

    the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community
     
    It's still hoping against hope, but slightly less remote every day:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-21/brazen-plot-exonerate-hillary-clinton-and-frame-trump-unraveling-says-former-fed
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  37. AndrewR says:

    I question your intelligence, Sailer, if you think that pointing out that someone is willfully ignorant is the same as saying they’re not intelligent. It’s objectively true that Trump doesn’t know or want to know the details of any policies. Whether he lacks the intelligence to understand those details is less clear.

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    You're absolutely right. No one ever took an imputation of ignorance as an insult to their intelligence. Those things aren't even related in most people's minds.
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  38. @D. K.
    OT:

    Today is the 45th anniversary of the Monday on which the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Roe v. Wade. Late that afternoon, Lyndon Baines Johnson died, at age 64, two days after a second full term as president might have ended for him, had he continued his 1968 reelection campaign and defeated Richard Milhous Nixon. LBJ's death left the United States with no living former presidents. That ended with President Nixon's resignation, just over a year and a half later-- and is unlikely to be repeated, anytime soon.

    Ahh crap, my apologies, D.K. I guess I didn’t catch the 45 years part, and thought LBJ died before 1972, when Truman did. My bad.

    Steve, you could just not moderate either of these 2 comments, or else leave ‘em both. Thanks.

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  39. eah says:

    OT

    For some reason I am reminded of the Shelley poem ‘Ozymandias’:

    Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

    Look at the intellectual quality of what passes for debate on the immigration issue in America and despair:

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    https://twitter.com/IanSmith1776/status/955470815235059715
    , @Maj. Kong
    Dowd is the logical endpoint of the W.F. Buckley Jr-style conservative.

    The central point of the Alt Right is: What have Conservatives conserved?
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Mathew Dowd is an unlovable Leprechaun who pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mathew Dowd is a member of the GOP Open Borders Mass Immigration faction. Dowd is an unassimilated baby boomer treasonite.

    I love most Leprechauns, but, some Leprechauns, such as John Brennan and Mathew Dowd, behave in a manner that makes them highly unlovable. What I'm saying is that they rile me the hell up, DAMMIT!

    Mathew Dowd is one of those mutton-headed Leprechauns who have a chip on their shoulder about the English people who settled and founded the United States of America. Dowd was a strategist for the 2004 Bush Organized Crime Syndicate presidential campaign. It is well known that the Bush Organized Crime Syndicate pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal invaders. Jebby Bush found out in 2016 that the voters reject the Bush treason plan to import foreigners on a massive scale.

    Mathew Dowd is one of those Leprechauns who seem to follow the English everywhere on the globe they go and then starts treasonously trying to destroy the political systems that the English create.

    John Brennan, with an even more grotesque -- but quite similar -- Leprechaun mutton-headed appearance than MathewDowd, is a Deep State CIA goon who wants to flood the United States with foreigners and illegal alien invaders.

    Brennan is one of the CIA bastards who tried to destroy President Trump. Tried but failed, you CIA dirtbags! Trump loves Irish people as much as I do, but Trump knows this Brennan boob is an evil anti-American Leprechaun rat.

    Mathew Dowd and John Brennan are evil Leprechauns who want to get back at the English by destroying the creation of the English: The United States of America.

    PUT NONE BUT AMERICANS ON GUARD TONIGHT!
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  40. eah says:
    @eah
    OT

    For some reason I am reminded of the Shelley poem 'Ozymandias':

    Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

    Look at the intellectual quality of what passes for debate on the immigration issue in America and despair:

    https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/955434600922337280

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    @eah
    https://twitter.com/IanSmith1776/status/955470815235059715

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    I must have missed all the native American chiefs at the Constitutional Convention.
    , @J.Ross
    I love how their arguments are our arguments. Why yes, Matt, how apt of you to bring up Cahokia. We don't want to end up like your own example.
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  42. nebulafox says:
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    "I don’t think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon’s resignation was. The phrase “perfect storm” is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. "
     
    If Mueller's investigation unravels, as perhaps it will, we may have the perfect storm of a reverse Watergate, in which the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community rather than his crooked defenders. That would be great theatre but might distract from the vital issues (vital for Trump as well as the country) going into the fall: real trade and immigration reform. Trump, the man who doesn't have time for a grudge, might do better to show clemency to his enemies, even as he cleans out the Augean stables of the previous two administrations.

    But I fantasize.

    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the “Trump is a Russian spy” story (I’ll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn’t getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer…). If they do, they probably won’t get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in ’18. Trump is no political genius. I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don’t, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP’s inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite’s money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn’t increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

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    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him [Trump].
     
    Have the FBI, BHO, HRC, CNN, WAPO, NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC, GOOG, ... and the GOPe castrated DJT?

    BTW: How would FDR and LBJ have fared if they were opposed by the-likes-of the FBI, BHO, HRC, CNN, WAPO, NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC, GOOG, ... and the GOPe?
    , @Jack Hanson
    "Trump is no political genius".

    Please, show me your score sheet, oh wise one who comments on a niche blog.

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.
    , @Nico

    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.
     
    That’s the thing. A “reality-based” operator wouldn’t have allowed HRC to get the nomination and if he couldn’t stop her, wouldn’t have allowed her to run the terrible campaign she ran. If there’s a really gifted trickster waiting in the woods to jump out last minute, that would beg the question as to why he chose not to come forward in the last election cycle. But I think the more interesting question is whether such a shrewd electioneer is really necessary, at this point, to overcome the Democratic Party’s serious screw-ups.

    Remember: Hillary screwed up severely, acted like the presidency was her birthright and *almost* got away with it. Conventional wisdom said she would get away with it, and turned out to be wrong. Conventional wisdom also said that any other Republican would have mopped the floor with Hillary by September. I’m not sure conventional wisdom was much better on that point. And conventional wisdom says, as you do, that Trump is not a political genius.

    Mind you, if the United States were, culturally and demographically, the same nation it was in the 1980s, I would almost certainly agree. Three decades on, however, we are now dealing with the same dynamics that make it possible for the ANC, in all their glorious tyrannical kleptocratic mentally-retarded banana-republican incompetence, to be elected and re-elected, time and again.

    Granted that the ultimate test for competency in politics is the ability to win elections, speaking in the absolute, competency in politics is a salutary attribute only if its bearers prove to be competent in government once they get there. It is indeed questionable whether this new brand of politics born of and adapted to this new, jungle-like situation, can produce competent governments. Trump may yet prove that it can, if only by accident, but time is running short and conditions - a mixture of old institutional trust and new personal egotism - are certainly not working in his favor.

    In the end the only hope may be some sort of coup to put an end to dysfunction politics and the dysfunctional governments they produce. Whether such a coup will be enough to save anything worth saving - or indeed whether it will happen at all - is another question.
    , @bomag

    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses
     
    The Dems have no such person; just politically correct automatons.
    , @guest
    I imagine Russia-gate will eventually be dropped, no one will admit in mixed company to having ever taken it seriously (though in their respective Dark Corners they'll take it [whatever it is, exactly] as the gospel truth), and history books will treat the idea that the political establishment and MSM ever seriously suggested that Trump was compromised by foreign intelligence or that Russia stole the election as a kooky conspiracy theory.

    Though of course they'll maintain Russia "interfered" somehow, and that there was a genuine gate-y aura surrounding the Trump administration that they can't put their finger on.
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  43. OT:

    The controversial Silicon Valley-funded quest to educate the world’s poorest kids

    https://qz.com/1179738/bridge-school/

    These results are impressive. But some critics suggest that they can largely be explained by the fact that Bridge kids come from families who have money to pay for school. “The evidence for learning gains disappears once you control for the socio-economic background of the children in Bridge schools,” says David Archer, a vocal critic of Bridge and director of ActionAid, a charity focusing on women and girls’ rights in 45 countries, citing evidence that the home environment is a key component to students’ success in education.

    “once you control for the socio-economic background … the home environment is a key component”

    So close, but not quite. It’s probably the IQ of the parents in the rich kids’ home environment, and that of the kids themselves. That’s what these Silicon Valley data freaks should be tracking. There are some very simple IQ tests that would take minutes and would be good enough in this context.

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  44. @Peter Akuleyev
    Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years - circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the "resistance." A government shutdown is manna for the NYT - real world consequences for their readers - small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates - tremendous.

    “The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years – circulation is up,”

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.

    It’s more accurate to say that their circulation is fast becoming nonexistent.

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    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.
     
    After Trump was elected by, inter alia, rightfully pointing out that the Media has become a left wing political operation, the NYT and WaPo and others re-branded themselves as the political opposition under a thin veil of being the watchdogs of democracy - see, e.g, "Democracy Dies in Darkness." Left wing types subscribed in record numbers in order to support the political opposition to Trump masquerading as non-partisan Media outlets.
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  45. @nebulafox
    I think Trump is incredibly thin-skinned, but not *quite* in the same way the press thinks he is. He objects less to insults and caricature-the man loves publicity and doesn't mind playing the fool, as his appearances on WWE should attest to-than to challenges to his authority or implications of impotence. Reality irks him less than its image. I don't think the distinction doesn't matter all that much in the end, really, given the nature of modern American politics.

    On Reagan: I think this maturity was partially a function of Reagan's age. JFK and Nixon, in particular, were really, really determined to be remembered as "great", and that led both into some pretty dumb, hasty decisions. Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say? It wasn't as if he was going to be around to hear them.

    The NYT's major mistake is less making fun of him than implicitly implying that he doesn't have the authority as President to have a say in immigration policy, unless it is to agree with him. That'll set him off.

    Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say?<

    I agree with that, but that’s not the case for lots of politicians even when they are old. The commie Merkel over in Germany is no spring chicken herself, but, according to Nick Styx of VDare (and I really like his term) is just “obituary shopping”. Lots of these people DO care what people will think of them after they are dead, and that’s still a problem, because their ideals that they want to be remembered for are still wrong and evil.

    Ronnie Reagan was a really prinicipled man – I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies. People keep getting on him about the amnesty, but Reagan’s problem was that he was too trusting of Americans – the ones in the government, that is.

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    I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies.

    It is always funny that every Reagan worshipper always points to something Reagan said. Yeah, ole Ronnie was a magnificent saider, one of the best ever. Unfortunately, he was one of the absolute worst diders and the major reason everything is so screwed up now. He didn't make any attempt to stop the PC express train, he never pushed back against affirmative action, he expanded it, his idiotic trade and immigration policies (not just amnesty but guest workers and NAFTA), his psychotic fear of communism leading to a lot of our central American immigration, and his massive waste of money on the military. The silver tongued one with the empty head.

    If he was pricipled, just what were those principles? Doesn't it get tiresome making excuses for that moron? Don't you know that the only reason a bill gets stuffed with crap is because somebody wanted in there (according to FDR). Therefore, nobody get's fooled in DC - they ALL know what is in those bills. Reagan signed them knowing what was in them.

    He was just lucky enough to be President during a period in economic history that usually only comes about once in a lifetime - the microelectronics revolution so he could take credit for the economy that would have expanded anyway.
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  46. There are a lot of lists about how to win at war.

    At the top of every one of them, I think you can find this:

    Know your enemy.

    I think Trump knows his enemy very well. But his opposition will never know him.

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    It's not just Trump, it applies to the White Right too. We know everything our enemies know, but they know nothing of us. We've grown up seeing their content constantly, but they've never bothered to take 5 minutes to read and digest ours. The only thing they know about us is what they read in their own propaganda.
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  47. Nico says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years - circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the "resistance." A government shutdown is manna for the NYT - real world consequences for their readers - small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates - tremendous.

    Incredibly, NY Times and WaPo circulation is up despite the quality of their reporting – in terms of factual accuracy, analytical logic and technical linguistic integrity alike – having never been so dismal. This is most certainly the last gasp for these periodicals as well as for any twerps who count them as cornerstones of any “movement.” The obvious problem is that they will do a great deal of mischief before they run out of fuel. The prospect that they may succeed in taking down American society, at long last, along with themselves does appear to be on the horizon.

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  48. Coemgen says:
    @nebulafox
    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him [Trump].

    Have the FBI, BHO, HRC, CNN, WAPO, NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC, GOOG, … and the GOPe castrated DJT?

    BTW: How would FDR and LBJ have fared if they were opposed by the-likes-of the FBI, BHO, HRC, CNN, WAPO, NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC, GOOG, … and the GOPe?

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  49. @nebulafox
    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    “Trump is no political genius”.

    Please, show me your score sheet, oh wise one who comments on a niche blog.

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.

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    And the two representatives of those dynasties might well have been the most inept campaigning bunglers ("Americans just need to work harder"-coming from the man who openly fantasizes about flooding the labor market to the disadvantage of said Americans) we've seen in American politics for several decades, representing dynasties with extreme structural flaws that were only kept afloat by millions of dollars, media venality, and a lack of a coherent, strong opposition.

    A political genius would realize that he really came across a unique moment in history, a transitional point in many ways, in having two parties that were absolutely rotten and fragile to the core, and would use his unique position in quite literally not owing anything to anybody to radically remake politics to his liking. He has not done that-he's opted, in many ways, to become Bush 45, only with a GOPe that would still happily replace him with a Pence if that didn't mean facing the wrath of their base. If he were sufficiently ruthless enough, Trump could quite easily accumulate more Presidential power than anybody has had since the early '60s, given the utter incompetence of his opposition.

    He might be waking up now on how the way he wins the political game is by re-inventing the rules, or at least on immigration to an extent, but this blog, while an excellent source that tends to display more intellectual diversity than the MSM, still can be an echo chamber to an extent. Remember his decision with Afghanistan? This is a man who is easily influenced by people who use big, impressive words.

    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.
     
    Been looking in the mirror, then, Simple Jack?

    You seem to be forgetting that Trump had to be elected, he couldn't just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place. And we're the ones who elected him. If you want to see the score sheet, look at the man in the Oval Office. He's our freaking score sheet. Against overwhelming odds, against treachery by our own party, against a universally hostile media, against what we now know to be a criminal conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, and the FBI to keep him out of office, we pushed him over the finish line.

    And it is now up to us to keep him in line, to keep him fighting for the right policies, because there's no end to the number of other factions who will seek to influence him for their own ends. Those whom you pathetically refer to as Eeyores are a critical part of the political process. They make noises when Trump goes off the leash. People like Tucker and Laura and Queen Ann (who actually read our comments) proceed to talk, tweet, and report about it. Pressure filters up to the Trump Administration, and hopefully the Leftward drift is abated.

    For the example, the "shithole" comment, whether Trump actually said it or not, was nothing less than a miracle, a last-minute stick-save preventing something that would have been the end of both Trump's presidency and the country. We may have been just hours away from a DACA amnesty which Trump had every intention of signing. Alternatively, the comment itself would have been politically ruinous for any prior Republican president. But we now have significant voices throughout the country who have spent years informing others about the demographic reality, and that was enough to cause a significant plurality of the body politic to spring to Trump's defense. Without that preparation and tactical maneuvering, all would have been lost.

    So what about your score sheet, Simple Jack? You've spent the entire time slobbering over everything Trump has done, whether it was right or not. You defended the cruise missile attack on Syria, which was a murderous and criminal act of terrorism on Trump's part. What are your thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the decertification of the Iran deal, the continued presence of US troops in Syria, the escalation of rhetoric with North Korea, the $100 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Is Trump blameless in all those, too? Are there always extenuating circumstances? 4d chess?

    And yes, just so you know, Trump has been rolled by tough operators since assuming office, just as nebulafox said. Xi Jinping made chop suey out of Trump's vaunted negotiation skills at Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un just won a major geopolitical victory against him. I am not disturbed by this, because in each case I believed the policies that Trump was pursuing to be wrong anyway. It is no great sorrow to lose when victory would have made things worse, but that does not mean that Trump didn't get outplayed.

    Your shtick is weak and tiresome. You better take that trash back to Breitbart where it will be appreciated. Don't bring it around here.

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  50. Dmitry says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years - circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the "resistance." A government shutdown is manna for the NYT - real world consequences for their readers - small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates - tremendous.

    Yes, Trump’s ‘arrival on the scene’ has been like discovering a gold-mine for the NYT, at least in terms of digital subscribers (i.e. people who don’t know how to clear the cookies on their browser).

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/business/new-york-times-company-2q-earnings.html?

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  51. @nebulafox
    On top of that, the Paris Peace Accords would at long last be signed, after many months of repeated missteps. America's role in the Second Indochinese War was over.

    I think it isn't too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart. Kissinger summed it up best in his autobiography: it was like barring a surgeon at the height of his prowess from the only thing he really cared about. He just really went in a downward spiral out in the ranch after '68. Nixon-a President who knew something himself about heartbreak-more or less confirmed this is in his own book.

    I don't think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon's resignation was. The phrase "perfect storm" is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. And even then, but for his decision to record his own words in the Oval Office, he would have survived and served out his term, if crippled and a de facto lame duck in domestic policy like Reagan after Iran-Contra or Clinton after Lewinsky.

    Woulda coulda shoulda is the stock and trade of historians.

    If only LBJ hadn’t resigned, perhaps he could’ve been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in ’68.

    If only the Plumbers had gotten away with it, Nixon would’ve finished his second term without distraction.

    If only Tom Brady had thrown that interception late in the fourth quarter, JX would have won the game.

    If only, if only.

    If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, we’d have Christmas every day.

    At end of day, we do have to live in the real world and what DID happen, and not what we wish it to be.

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    You forgot:

    "If heartaches were commercials, we'd all be on TV".
    , @nebulafox
    Isn't that just the case? Counterfactual history is fun, but in some ways, is the ultimate intellectual masterbation.

    >If only LBJ hadn’t resigned, perhaps he could’ve been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in ’68.

    Agreed. I don't see how he could have. Johnson was probably one of the most ruthless, skilled politicians this nation has produced, but the odds were just not in his favor in '68: he couldn't even leave the White House but for fear of vicious riots. Daily assassination threats. In order to beat Nixon, apart from keeping all the states that Humphrey won, LBJ would have either had to won California-Nixon's home state, and as baffling as it is to consider now, a fortress bastion of Cold War Republicanism that also produced Earl Warren and Ronald Reagan-or both Ohio and Illinois. Given what happened in Chicago and the animus directed at LBJ from conservative Rust Belt Democrats, that wasn't very likely to happen, either. Nixon also likely wouldn't have underestimated LBJ like he did Humphrey.

    Ironically, the much maligned Hubert Humphrey probably was the best choice for the Democrats. He could call on the support of the White House and the still potent New Deal coalition without being the ailing and unpopular Johnson himself. Had the election gone on for two more weeks, he probably would have won: Nixon was up by 15 percentage points in early September. It really speaks to the strength of the New Deal coalition, and to LBJ's unique political skills, that when they went DEFCON afterwards, they were able to haul back a lot of Wallace's Northern supporters. Often forgotten is that George Wallace's support was far from limited to the Deep South, although he did have a pretty hard electoral ceiling. But then again, Wallace knew that: his goal wasn't to win, but to throw it to the Senate.

    (I think RFK would have made a good POTUS... in 1976. Johnson and his Texas cronies would have sooner sunk the ship than have him as his successor, Daley likely wouldn't have backed him, Schlesinger's fantasies aside, and LBJ also had J. Edgar Hoover-who pretty much *was* RFK back in the 1920s and 1930s. It's a classic case of two men not having good chemistry because they are too much alike-at his disposal. McCarthy's Oregon upset was in no small part due to Hoover's merry men leaking a little memo detailing RFK's wiretapping activities, the largest amount pre-PATRIOT Act, as AG during the Kennedy Administration.)

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  52. @Joe Walker
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/we-re-u-s-jews-and-proud-to-be-arrested-for-dreamers-rights-1.5748750

    “Proud” Jews pushing for more Muslim immigration into the USA and Europe, but no mention of Israel. Hypocrisy of the worst type — ruining someone else’s homeland while protecting your own, while acting self-righteous about it.

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  53. Nico says:
    @nebulafox
    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    That’s the thing. A “reality-based” operator wouldn’t have allowed HRC to get the nomination and if he couldn’t stop her, wouldn’t have allowed her to run the terrible campaign she ran. If there’s a really gifted trickster waiting in the woods to jump out last minute, that would beg the question as to why he chose not to come forward in the last election cycle. But I think the more interesting question is whether such a shrewd electioneer is really necessary, at this point, to overcome the Democratic Party’s serious screw-ups.

    Remember: Hillary screwed up severely, acted like the presidency was her birthright and *almost* got away with it. Conventional wisdom said she would get away with it, and turned out to be wrong. Conventional wisdom also said that any other Republican would have mopped the floor with Hillary by September. I’m not sure conventional wisdom was much better on that point. And conventional wisdom says, as you do, that Trump is not a political genius.

    Mind you, if the United States were, culturally and demographically, the same nation it was in the 1980s, I would almost certainly agree. Three decades on, however, we are now dealing with the same dynamics that make it possible for the ANC, in all their glorious tyrannical kleptocratic mentally-retarded banana-republican incompetence, to be elected and re-elected, time and again.

    Granted that the ultimate test for competency in politics is the ability to win elections, speaking in the absolute, competency in politics is a salutary attribute only if its bearers prove to be competent in government once they get there. It is indeed questionable whether this new brand of politics born of and adapted to this new, jungle-like situation, can produce competent governments. Trump may yet prove that it can, if only by accident, but time is running short and conditions – a mixture of old institutional trust and new personal egotism – are certainly not working in his favor.

    In the end the only hope may be some sort of coup to put an end to dysfunction politics and the dysfunctional governments they produce. Whether such a coup will be enough to save anything worth saving – or indeed whether it will happen at all – is another question.

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  54. Travis says:

    the real strategy of the media is to avoid discussing what the Democrats are seeking – Amnesty for 5 million Dreamers (and their parents), amnesty for the Haitian refugees, amnesty for the Salvadorian refugees and continue the Diversity Lottery, continue to allow 800,000 to immigrate via chain migration each year

    They will never allow the press to report the facts about chain migration , the diversity lottery and the “dreamers”. They lie and state we have 800,000 dreamers , when it is 3.6 million Dreamers…they will never allow the American people to know that 18% of the immigrants we admit each year are over the age of 50…these elderly migrants come via our family unification visa program, they will soon be collecting medicare and social security, not contributing to it…

    we need to end the Diversity lottery, stop granting green cards to elderly boomers from Africa, Latin America and Asia and build the wall. the more Americans that learn the facts the more will support ending these harmful programs.

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    the real strategy of the media is to avoid discussing what the Democrats are seeking
     
    >snip

    Perma-left government
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  55. David says:
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    "I don’t think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon’s resignation was. The phrase “perfect storm” is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. "
     
    If Mueller's investigation unravels, as perhaps it will, we may have the perfect storm of a reverse Watergate, in which the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community rather than his crooked defenders. That would be great theatre but might distract from the vital issues (vital for Trump as well as the country) going into the fall: real trade and immigration reform. Trump, the man who doesn't have time for a grudge, might do better to show clemency to his enemies, even as he cleans out the Augean stables of the previous two administrations.

    But I fantasize.

    the ones behind bars are the illegal opponents of the president in the DOJ and intelligence community

    It’s still hoping against hope, but slightly less remote every day:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-21/brazen-plot-exonerate-hillary-clinton-and-frame-trump-unraveling-says-former-fed

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  56. gregor says:

    OT: ICE has arrested a Polish born, green car holding doctor who’s been in the US since he was five and has a family here. He has some misdemeanors from the early 90s.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/ice-detains-a-polish-doctor-and-green-card-holder-who-has-lived-in-the-u-s-for-nearly-40-years/?utm_term=.807bca18c6fe

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  57. Maj. Kong says:
    @rogue-one
    The strategy did sort of work with Bannon (correct me if I am wrong). Media showed Bannon as a master manipulator of a childish, almost buffoonish, Trump which may have played a crucial role in Bannon's downfall. Times is assuming that Trump doesn't like being portrayed as a stupid guy being manipulated by his smarter aides which may create a rift between Trump and his aides allowing Mr Schumer to get his immigration law passed.

    The message spread by the left-media is that a cult of crypto-Nazis have secretly taken over the GOP, backed by large sums of Russian cash and paid trolls. The left-media is therefore “speaking truth to power” and “resisting” an illegitimate government.

    Bannon has been exposed as a slob alcoholic that repeatedly leaked to the press, and held delusions of running for office himself. The end came for him and Gorka after the Charlottesville response fiasco, where political capital was wasted for the feelz of Richard Spencer.

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  58. Maj. Kong says:
    @Travis
    the real strategy of the media is to avoid discussing what the Democrats are seeking - Amnesty for 5 million Dreamers (and their parents), amnesty for the Haitian refugees, amnesty for the Salvadorian refugees and continue the Diversity Lottery, continue to allow 800,000 to immigrate via chain migration each year

    They will never allow the press to report the facts about chain migration , the diversity lottery and the "dreamers". They lie and state we have 800,000 dreamers , when it is 3.6 million Dreamers...they will never allow the American people to know that 18% of the immigrants we admit each year are over the age of 50...these elderly migrants come via our family unification visa program, they will soon be collecting medicare and social security, not contributing to it...

    we need to end the Diversity lottery, stop granting green cards to elderly boomers from Africa, Latin America and Asia and build the wall. the more Americans that learn the facts the more will support ending these harmful programs.

    the real strategy of the media is to avoid discussing what the Democrats are seeking

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  59. Maj. Kong says:
    @eah
    OT

    For some reason I am reminded of the Shelley poem 'Ozymandias':

    Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

    Look at the intellectual quality of what passes for debate on the immigration issue in America and despair:

    https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/955434600922337280

    Dowd is the logical endpoint of the W.F. Buckley Jr-style conservative.

    The central point of the Alt Right is: What have Conservatives conserved?

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  60. Flip says:
    @The Z Blog
    It's fascinating to watch both left-wing Progressives and right-wing Progressives flail around trying to come to terms with Trump and the emerging white populism. Her whole life she was trained to make guys like David Brooks feel bad about not going along with the latest Progressive fads. The attempts to use these tricks on Trump is like primitives hurling spears at tanks.

    Interesting bio of Mx Haberman. She is the daughter of Clyde Haberman, a journalist for The New York Times. She is a 1991 graduate of Ethical Culture Fieldston School, an independent preparatory school in New York City. She then attended Sarah Lawrence College, a private liberal arts college in New York . She married the son of Vartan Gregorian, an Iranian born Armenian, whose father was an executive of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company.

    Our ruling class does not look like America, does it?

    What is a right wing progressive?

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    The right-wing of progressivism, the way I'd use the term. Though in this case, the above poster might possibly be thinking of people who are in the right camp but possess progressive attributes. Or those who agree with the important conclusions of progressives over on the left, but for different reasons.

    Sort of like how the War Party consists of people of allegedly different ideologies and political bases who for whatever reason agree on the use of force to preserve U.S. empire. For instance, leftists because World War G and rightists because Big Oil.

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  61. Jack D says:

    NYT is not trying to convince DJT of anything. NYT needs (badly) to sell newspapers to its ever shrinking subscriber base, which is mostly blue. NYT also, as the propaganda arm of the DNC, needs to keep Trump as a bogey man against which Dem candidates can run (in November every R candidate from dog catcher to Senator will have DJT as his running mate in Dem. ads.)

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  62. @Achmed E. Newman
    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970's.

    But it's not like I really want ex-presidents around, personally, mainly because of the way they've been running their mouths over the last few decades (with the exception of my many Ronnie - and partially Jimmy C.). Also they cost taxpayers money in full-time secret-service protection. I wonder if that gets turned off during gov't shutdowns?

    Truman died a month before LBJ.

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    Thanks, see my subsequent comment.
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  63. Flip says:
    @Anonymous
    https://www.twitter.com/robreiner/status/955129751064072192

    Malibu is so diverse.

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  64. @Redneck farmer
    I think the NYT isn't as smart as it thinks.

    New York Times journos
    New York Times journos
    New York Times journos
    Ain’t too smart

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  65. @eah
    Haberman is Jewish -- probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don't call it the 'Jew York Times' for nothing) -- re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUI1eg5UQAAMchw.jpg

    From Rob’s view in Brentwood and Malibu, diversity is workin out great!

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  66. Flip says:

    I finally canceled my NYT subscription which I’ve had for over 30 years. The left wing propaganda has become overwhelming and I can’t see giving them my money. I got a free online subscription from my college so I’ll still be able to look at the occasional business or science article.

    The Wall Street Journal will be my remaining newspaper. They are more pro immigration than I would like, but at least they don’t appear to want straight, white, gentile males to be dead.

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  67. rogue-one says:

    The Israeli solution for dealing with asylum seekers: Move them to a safe third country in Africa & wish them best of luck.

    I hope Trump takes this idea from Israel too, along with the Wall.

    (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/best-of-luck-israeli-officials-tell-asylum-seekers-before-expulsion-1.5749960)

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  68. @dearieme
    OT: while y'all rightly shake with apprehension at what the next skullduggery from the FBI, CIA, or NSA might be, cheer yourselves up by contemplating the incompetence of the people involved. They're such mugs that a 15-year old can dance rings around their security procedures.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5290787/Boy-15-posed-head-CIA-secret-files.html

    Still, it doesn't seem to inhibit the FBI from murdering US citizens, staging a slow-motion coup against a President, or manfully saving the USA from a terrorist attack on 9/11. Hang on; the latter would have called for competence ...

    If the murmurings on the fringes of the interwebs are anything to go by, the NSA, along with military intelligence more broadly, has lined up with Trump and is using its universal reach to rip the guts out of the globalists and their factota in the CIA and FBI.

    Search: ‘Qanon’.

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  69. “Trump doesn’t really understand the finer points of immigration debate and doesn’t care to learn the details.”

    Let me help him out: My high-earning, highly-skilled European wife will be hard pressed after several years and thousands of dollars to get a Visa to live and work in the USA, but low-skilled people from shithole countries who will only draw public benefits or displace America’s working poor (or both) will be allowed to walk into America at the time and place of their choosing and ultimately bring in 10 or 20 relatives after they have achieved inevitable amnesty and naturalisation.

    Shame I don’t do Twitter so I could have a reasonable chance to get the message across.

    #StopTheInvasion

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  70. Luke Lea says:

    The forces of corporate globalism (including their running dogs who labor in the vineyards of the mainstream media) define popular sovereignty as white supremacy. Can’t admit that a majority of Americans OF ALL RACES prefer Trump’s version of comprehensive immigration reform.

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  71. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous
    https://www.twitter.com/robreiner/status/955129751064072192

    Another clueless lefty still spewing the racism card. Apparently, he hasn’t figured out that yelling racism (attempting to shame his political opponents) doesn’t work. You’d think someone so shameless would notice, but you’d be wrong.

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  72. OT: L’Oreal model steps down after anti-Israel tweets uncovered

    Woman who rejected Revlon award over Gal Gadot also deletes Twitter posts.

    http://www.jpost.com/OMG/LOreal-model-steps-down-after-anti-Israel-tweets-uncovered-539463

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  73. @eah
    OT

    For some reason I am reminded of the Shelley poem 'Ozymandias':

    Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

    Look at the intellectual quality of what passes for debate on the immigration issue in America and despair:

    https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/955434600922337280

    Mathew Dowd is an unlovable Leprechaun who pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mathew Dowd is a member of the GOP Open Borders Mass Immigration faction. Dowd is an unassimilated baby boomer treasonite.

    I love most Leprechauns, but, some Leprechauns, such as John Brennan and Mathew Dowd, behave in a manner that makes them highly unlovable. What I’m saying is that they rile me the hell up, DAMMIT!

    Mathew Dowd is one of those mutton-headed Leprechauns who have a chip on their shoulder about the English people who settled and founded the United States of America. Dowd was a strategist for the 2004 Bush Organized Crime Syndicate presidential campaign. It is well known that the Bush Organized Crime Syndicate pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal invaders. Jebby Bush found out in 2016 that the voters reject the Bush treason plan to import foreigners on a massive scale.

    Mathew Dowd is one of those Leprechauns who seem to follow the English everywhere on the globe they go and then starts treasonously trying to destroy the political systems that the English create.

    John Brennan, with an even more grotesque — but quite similar — Leprechaun mutton-headed appearance than MathewDowd, is a Deep State CIA goon who wants to flood the United States with foreigners and illegal alien invaders.

    Brennan is one of the CIA bastards who tried to destroy President Trump. Tried but failed, you CIA dirtbags! Trump loves Irish people as much as I do, but Trump knows this Brennan boob is an evil anti-American Leprechaun rat.

    Mathew Dowd and John Brennan are evil Leprechauns who want to get back at the English by destroying the creation of the English: The United States of America.

    PUT NONE BUT AMERICANS ON GUARD TONIGHT!

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  74. Forbes says:
    @JohnnyD
    "Finner parts of the immigration debate" really means mindlessly reciting Emma Lazarus's poem and talking about diverse restaurants. I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller would demolish Ms. Haberman in a serious debate about immigration, which is why the left keeps complaining about his influence.

    The “finer” parts are always “my” parts in the debate. Since “you” don’t agree with my argument it must be “you” who doesn’t understand.

    It couldn’t be that my argument falls short…

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  75. Barnard says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/955471388290224128

    I must have missed all the native American chiefs at the Constitutional Convention.

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  76. syonredux says:

    When President Trump mused last year about protecting immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, calling them “these incredible kids,” aides implored him privately to stop talking about them so sympathetically.

    When he batted around the idea of granting them citizenship over a Chinese dinner at the White House last year with Democratic leaders, Mr. Trump’s advisers quickly drew up a list of hard-line demands to send to Capitol Hill that they said must be included in any such plan.

    And twice over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has privately told lawmakers he is eager to strike a deal to extend legal status to the so-called Dreamers, only to have his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller, make clear afterward that such a compromise was not really in the offing — unless it also included a host of stiffer immigration restrictions.

    I get the impression that the NYTIMES is dangling a quid pro quo in front of Trump: Amnesty for the “Dreamers” in exchange for the “strange, new respect” treatment from the MSM…..

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    Yeah because Trump really cares about that.
    , @D. K.
    He already received that treatment from them-- after ordering the bombing of a Syrian air base, to mollify the sad Ivanca, following the latest "chemical attack" hoax. How long did that effect last?
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  77. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Woulda coulda shoulda is the stock and trade of historians.

    If only LBJ hadn't resigned, perhaps he could've been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in '68.

    If only the Plumbers had gotten away with it, Nixon would've finished his second term without distraction.

    If only Tom Brady had thrown that interception late in the fourth quarter, JX would have won the game.

    If only, if only.

    If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd have Christmas every day.

    At end of day, we do have to live in the real world and what DID happen, and not what we wish it to be.

    You forgot:

    “If heartaches were commercials, we’d all be on TV”.

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  78. nebulafox says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Woulda coulda shoulda is the stock and trade of historians.

    If only LBJ hadn't resigned, perhaps he could've been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in '68.

    If only the Plumbers had gotten away with it, Nixon would've finished his second term without distraction.

    If only Tom Brady had thrown that interception late in the fourth quarter, JX would have won the game.

    If only, if only.

    If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd have Christmas every day.

    At end of day, we do have to live in the real world and what DID happen, and not what we wish it to be.

    Isn’t that just the case? Counterfactual history is fun, but in some ways, is the ultimate intellectual masterbation.

    >If only LBJ hadn’t resigned, perhaps he could’ve been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in ’68.

    Agreed. I don’t see how he could have. Johnson was probably one of the most ruthless, skilled politicians this nation has produced, but the odds were just not in his favor in ’68: he couldn’t even leave the White House but for fear of vicious riots. Daily assassination threats. In order to beat Nixon, apart from keeping all the states that Humphrey won, LBJ would have either had to won California-Nixon’s home state, and as baffling as it is to consider now, a fortress bastion of Cold War Republicanism that also produced Earl Warren and Ronald Reagan-or both Ohio and Illinois. Given what happened in Chicago and the animus directed at LBJ from conservative Rust Belt Democrats, that wasn’t very likely to happen, either. Nixon also likely wouldn’t have underestimated LBJ like he did Humphrey.

    Ironically, the much maligned Hubert Humphrey probably was the best choice for the Democrats. He could call on the support of the White House and the still potent New Deal coalition without being the ailing and unpopular Johnson himself. Had the election gone on for two more weeks, he probably would have won: Nixon was up by 15 percentage points in early September. It really speaks to the strength of the New Deal coalition, and to LBJ’s unique political skills, that when they went DEFCON afterwards, they were able to haul back a lot of Wallace’s Northern supporters. Often forgotten is that George Wallace’s support was far from limited to the Deep South, although he did have a pretty hard electoral ceiling. But then again, Wallace knew that: his goal wasn’t to win, but to throw it to the Senate.

    (I think RFK would have made a good POTUS… in 1976. Johnson and his Texas cronies would have sooner sunk the ship than have him as his successor, Daley likely wouldn’t have backed him, Schlesinger’s fantasies aside, and LBJ also had J. Edgar Hoover-who pretty much *was* RFK back in the 1920s and 1930s. It’s a classic case of two men not having good chemistry because they are too much alike-at his disposal. McCarthy’s Oregon upset was in no small part due to Hoover’s merry men leaking a little memo detailing RFK’s wiretapping activities, the largest amount pre-PATRIOT Act, as AG during the Kennedy Administration.)

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    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress--and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created "the Vietnam War"--as we know it--until I took a U.S. history course in college.
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  79. nebulafox says:
    @Jack Hanson
    "Trump is no political genius".

    Please, show me your score sheet, oh wise one who comments on a niche blog.

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.

    And the two representatives of those dynasties might well have been the most inept campaigning bunglers (“Americans just need to work harder”-coming from the man who openly fantasizes about flooding the labor market to the disadvantage of said Americans) we’ve seen in American politics for several decades, representing dynasties with extreme structural flaws that were only kept afloat by millions of dollars, media venality, and a lack of a coherent, strong opposition.

    A political genius would realize that he really came across a unique moment in history, a transitional point in many ways, in having two parties that were absolutely rotten and fragile to the core, and would use his unique position in quite literally not owing anything to anybody to radically remake politics to his liking. He has not done that-he’s opted, in many ways, to become Bush 45, only with a GOPe that would still happily replace him with a Pence if that didn’t mean facing the wrath of their base. If he were sufficiently ruthless enough, Trump could quite easily accumulate more Presidential power than anybody has had since the early ’60s, given the utter incompetence of his opposition.

    He might be waking up now on how the way he wins the political game is by re-inventing the rules, or at least on immigration to an extent, but this blog, while an excellent source that tends to display more intellectual diversity than the MSM, still can be an echo chamber to an extent. Remember his decision with Afghanistan? This is a man who is easily influenced by people who use big, impressive words.

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    I get that playing "what if" with history is your thing, but let's not play games with "anyone could have beaten Jeb! or Hillary".

    2016 isn't that far away that we can't remember the breathless acceptance around here and most other places that Jeb was going to win the primary (then Kasich, then Cruz) and Hillary the general. So settle down with the historical reinvention.

    Furthermore your "take" on him sounds like a poor man's psychoanalysis not at all in line with a man who has "made it" over and over again, including coming back from bankruptcy to be even more of a success.

    But yeah, anonymous commenter on a niche blog, I'm sure you got him pegged.

    Damn, the grandiose proclamations of some of you who haven't accomplished a hundredth of what Trump has really does redefine loving the smell of your own farts.

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  80. @syonredux

    When President Trump mused last year about protecting immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, calling them “these incredible kids,” aides implored him privately to stop talking about them so sympathetically.

    When he batted around the idea of granting them citizenship over a Chinese dinner at the White House last year with Democratic leaders, Mr. Trump’s advisers quickly drew up a list of hard-line demands to send to Capitol Hill that they said must be included in any such plan.

    And twice over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has privately told lawmakers he is eager to strike a deal to extend legal status to the so-called Dreamers, only to have his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller, make clear afterward that such a compromise was not really in the offing — unless it also included a host of stiffer immigration restrictions.
     
    I get the impression that the NYTIMES is dangling a quid pro quo in front of Trump: Amnesty for the "Dreamers" in exchange for the "strange, new respect" treatment from the MSM.....

    Yeah because Trump really cares about that.

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  81. Mr. Anon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970's.

    But it's not like I really want ex-presidents around, personally, mainly because of the way they've been running their mouths over the last few decades (with the exception of my many Ronnie - and partially Jimmy C.). Also they cost taxpayers money in full-time secret-service protection. I wonder if that gets turned off during gov't shutdowns?

    I don’t begrudge them some secret service protection, assuming it’s not too expensive, and that they behave themselves: e.g., refrain from trading on the power of their office (as with the Clinton’s bribery racket).

    What I do really dislike are the Presidential libraries, for a variety of reasons:

    1.) It is a waste of the public’s money to run and maintain them

    2.) The raising of money to build them just provides another way to obligate a President to private interests. I.e., it is also a form of bribery.

    3.) It is unseemly, in a Republic, for Presidents to erect shrines to their memory – for any President to do so, and certainly for all of them to do it. They are supposed to be public servants, not emperors / demi-Gods.

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    I agree, Mr. Anon, especially with point 3. That kind of crap is for Kings and Pharaohs and shit. As it is, there were never supposed to be anything like dynasties, as the high officials were meant to be the best of America's elite, who would "serve" in public office with the true meaning of that word - give up the more lucrative work they were doing and give up a few years to help keep the small government running. Ha!

    We've had Camelot and these dynasties now, and it's just not working out for the American people. I think we got lucky and probably got one of the better of the Kennedies, and luckily escaped any dynasty there, but then there was the Bush dynasty of fiascoes and one Clinton (whewww!) with still an existing dynastic spawn that we need to keep a close eye on.

    BTW, what is funny about the humble Jimmy Carter* compared to ole Ronnie, is that while there is Ronald Reagan National Airport right near downtown Washington, FS with as many commercial flights that can fit into that small space, we have Jimmy Carter Airport in Americus, GA (anyone outside of GA has most likely never heard of it), which is the closest thing to Plains, GA. The latter is an uncontrolled field (no tower, like 90% of the airports in the country), no airline service, and is the kind of place where one can land, and just taxi toward the trees and go take a piss, if one is in dire need.


    * I didn't like his left-wing (for the late 1970's) policies and poor leadership, but I'll give him lots of credit for this.
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  82. Isn’t the buried lede here that Gen. John Kelly has emerged as an immigration hawk?

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    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump's call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don't, and refuse to, understand their opposition.
    , @Jack Hanson
    I remember the moaning around here that we were going to have an amnesty in a month with Kelly as CoS.
    , @27 year old
    The first thing I remember reading about Kelly when he started as Chief of Staff was that he proposed "between zero and one" as the annual refugee quota.
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  83. Boethiuss says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn’t give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    The difference is, Nancy Reagan cared about what the NYT thought of her husband. Ivanka cares about what the NYT thinks about her.

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  84. @eah
    Haberman is Jewish -- probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don't call it the 'Jew York Times' for nothing) -- re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUI1eg5UQAAMchw.jpg

    Rob, nothing as profound as Bumper Sticker quotes.

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  85. @Achmed E. Newman
    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970's.

    But it's not like I really want ex-presidents around, personally, mainly because of the way they've been running their mouths over the last few decades (with the exception of my many Ronnie - and partially Jimmy C.). Also they cost taxpayers money in full-time secret-service protection. I wonder if that gets turned off during gov't shutdowns?

    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970′s.

    Sorry Achmed, but D.K. is correct.

    Eisenhower died in ’69 and Truman in late ’72. D.K. is taking about January 22, 1973.

    And yeah, it was a weird news day–at least for me. I wasn’t even aware that the Roe was being litigated, and my reaction was something akin to “Huh? that makes no sense. What the heck does that have to do with the constitution?” (Part of a process of awakening.) Then news Johnson had died off that afternoon. Strange day.

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    LBJ's obituary in the nation's self-proclaimed "paper-of-record" included the details on his death:

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0827.html
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks, see my subsequent comment.
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  86. @Jack Hanson
    "Trump is no political genius".

    Please, show me your score sheet, oh wise one who comments on a niche blog.

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.

    Been looking in the mirror, then, Simple Jack?

    You seem to be forgetting that Trump had to be elected, he couldn’t just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place. And we’re the ones who elected him. If you want to see the score sheet, look at the man in the Oval Office. He’s our freaking score sheet. Against overwhelming odds, against treachery by our own party, against a universally hostile media, against what we now know to be a criminal conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, and the FBI to keep him out of office, we pushed him over the finish line.

    And it is now up to us to keep him in line, to keep him fighting for the right policies, because there’s no end to the number of other factions who will seek to influence him for their own ends. Those whom you pathetically refer to as Eeyores are a critical part of the political process. They make noises when Trump goes off the leash. People like Tucker and Laura and Queen Ann (who actually read our comments) proceed to talk, tweet, and report about it. Pressure filters up to the Trump Administration, and hopefully the Leftward drift is abated.

    For the example, the “shithole” comment, whether Trump actually said it or not, was nothing less than a miracle, a last-minute stick-save preventing something that would have been the end of both Trump’s presidency and the country. We may have been just hours away from a DACA amnesty which Trump had every intention of signing. Alternatively, the comment itself would have been politically ruinous for any prior Republican president. But we now have significant voices throughout the country who have spent years informing others about the demographic reality, and that was enough to cause a significant plurality of the body politic to spring to Trump’s defense. Without that preparation and tactical maneuvering, all would have been lost.

    So what about your score sheet, Simple Jack? You’ve spent the entire time slobbering over everything Trump has done, whether it was right or not. You defended the cruise missile attack on Syria, which was a murderous and criminal act of terrorism on Trump’s part. What are your thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the decertification of the Iran deal, the continued presence of US troops in Syria, the escalation of rhetoric with North Korea, the $100 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Is Trump blameless in all those, too? Are there always extenuating circumstances? 4d chess?

    And yes, just so you know, Trump has been rolled by tough operators since assuming office, just as nebulafox said. Xi Jinping made chop suey out of Trump’s vaunted negotiation skills at Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un just won a major geopolitical victory against him. I am not disturbed by this, because in each case I believed the policies that Trump was pursuing to be wrong anyway. It is no great sorrow to lose when victory would have made things worse, but that does not mean that Trump didn’t get outplayed.

    Your shtick is weak and tiresome. You better take that trash back to Breitbart where it will be appreciated. Don’t bring it around here.

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    Omfg aren't you a triggered little lady.

    Well, yet another commenter with a misspelled name, I was one of the few people who wasnt on the "Surely Trump is doomed this time! says iSteve commenter for the 7th time this month" boat. Furthermore I was annoyed at him launching missiles at Syria, but in the end, did it really matter?

    Over and over and OVER again you and other moaning eeyores around here constantly proclaim "Betrayed!" around your ball gag. Its a unique form of iSteve commenter amnesia where no matter how many incorrect opinions you make, you never ever have to answer up to your track record.

    For example, the "shithole" comment. You really think Trump was going to sign that nonsense Graham and Durbin brought him? Ahahahahsh oh boy. If you can't even get that right I'm supposed to listen to anything else you say? You think Kim and Xi have the upper hand? Oh please, do go on. Explain how when the SK President is saying Trump is helping things, when Xi has been nicely boxed in. I'm all ears here, pal.

    My scorecard is awesome around here. You are yet another self important blowhard in a gimp suit begging for a spanking. Settle down.

    "Queen Ann" good grief, do you even read what you write?

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Your polemic isn't just misguided, it is dishonest. Shame on you Intelligent Dasein.
    , @(((Owen)))

    he couldn’t just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place
     
    Trump's plane is a 757.
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  87. J.Ross says: • Website

    We’re living in the Soviet Union and must reverse headlines to make sense of them.

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  88. Tom Cotton Is Untrustworthy On Immigration Because Of His Neo-Conservative Proclivities,

    BUT

    Tom Cotton is doing a good job of doing and saying the obvious things that most voters want to hear. And when I say most voters, I mean independents, most of the GOP and a good portion of Democrats.

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  89. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    https://www.twitter.com/robreiner/status/955129751064072192

    Make no mistake, this shutdown boils down to one thing: RACISM. GOP frightened to death of the browning of America. They will lose this last big battle of the Civil War. Diversity is our strength.

    — Rob Reiner (@robreiner) January 21, 2018

    Rob Reiner’s support for no-growth policies in Malibu proves that he’s frightened of the browning of the town where he own’s property.

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  90. @Percy Gryce
    Isn't the buried lede here that Gen. John Kelly has emerged as an immigration hawk?

    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump’s call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don’t, and refuse to, understand their opposition.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    SCENE:

    President Trump receives ceremonial sword at U.S. Coast Guard Academy. Trump resumes his seat next to John Kelly, who was at that time Homeland Security Top Dog.

    John Kelly:

    Use that on the press, sir.

    President Trump:

    Yeah(laughs)

    https://youtu.be/YxpqwtHkcbU
    , @Boethiuss

    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump’s call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don’t, and refuse to, understand their opposition.
     
    Yeah, I think this is exactly right. It didn't have to turn out that way either, but thankfully for us it did.
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  91. Mr. Anon says:
    @nebulafox
    On top of that, the Paris Peace Accords would at long last be signed, after many months of repeated missteps. America's role in the Second Indochinese War was over.

    I think it isn't too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart. Kissinger summed it up best in his autobiography: it was like barring a surgeon at the height of his prowess from the only thing he really cared about. He just really went in a downward spiral out in the ranch after '68. Nixon-a President who knew something himself about heartbreak-more or less confirmed this is in his own book.

    I don't think people typically understand how sui generis Nixon's resignation was. The phrase "perfect storm" is often overapplied, but Watergate was a good example of that. And even then, but for his decision to record his own words in the Oval Office, he would have survived and served out his term, if crippled and a de facto lame duck in domestic policy like Reagan after Iran-Contra or Clinton after Lewinsky.

    I think it isn’t too much of an exaggeration to say that LBJ died of a broken heart.

    Broken liver, anyway. Even while he was still President, at least towards the end of his term, Johnson was reportedly knocking down a bottle of Cutty Sark a day. If you drink like Jim Morrison, you’re probably gonna die like Jim Morrison.

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  92. @candid_observer
    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump's call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don't, and refuse to, understand their opposition.

    SCENE:

    President Trump receives ceremonial sword at U.S. Coast Guard Academy. Trump resumes his seat next to John Kelly, who was at that time Homeland Security Top Dog.

    John Kelly:

    Use that on the press, sir.

    President Trump:

    Yeah(laughs)

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  93. D. K. says:
    @AnotherDad


    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970′s.
     
    Sorry Achmed, but D.K. is correct.

    Eisenhower died in '69 and Truman in late '72. D.K. is taking about January 22, 1973.

    And yeah, it was a weird news day--at least for me. I wasn't even aware that the Roe was being litigated, and my reaction was something akin to "Huh? that makes no sense. What the heck does that have to do with the constitution?" (Part of a process of awakening.) Then news Johnson had died off that afternoon. Strange day.

    LBJ’s obituary in the nation’s self-proclaimed “paper-of-record” included the details on his death:

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0827.html

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    They found Mr. Johnson lying beside his bed. They said later he had already turned dark blue and appeared to be dead.

     

    If Lyndon Johnson had "turned dark blue" in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.
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  94. @nebulafox
    And the two representatives of those dynasties might well have been the most inept campaigning bunglers ("Americans just need to work harder"-coming from the man who openly fantasizes about flooding the labor market to the disadvantage of said Americans) we've seen in American politics for several decades, representing dynasties with extreme structural flaws that were only kept afloat by millions of dollars, media venality, and a lack of a coherent, strong opposition.

    A political genius would realize that he really came across a unique moment in history, a transitional point in many ways, in having two parties that were absolutely rotten and fragile to the core, and would use his unique position in quite literally not owing anything to anybody to radically remake politics to his liking. He has not done that-he's opted, in many ways, to become Bush 45, only with a GOPe that would still happily replace him with a Pence if that didn't mean facing the wrath of their base. If he were sufficiently ruthless enough, Trump could quite easily accumulate more Presidential power than anybody has had since the early '60s, given the utter incompetence of his opposition.

    He might be waking up now on how the way he wins the political game is by re-inventing the rules, or at least on immigration to an extent, but this blog, while an excellent source that tends to display more intellectual diversity than the MSM, still can be an echo chamber to an extent. Remember his decision with Afghanistan? This is a man who is easily influenced by people who use big, impressive words.

    I get that playing “what if” with history is your thing, but let’s not play games with “anyone could have beaten Jeb! or Hillary”.

    2016 isn’t that far away that we can’t remember the breathless acceptance around here and most other places that Jeb was going to win the primary (then Kasich, then Cruz) and Hillary the general. So settle down with the historical reinvention.

    Furthermore your “take” on him sounds like a poor man’s psychoanalysis not at all in line with a man who has “made it” over and over again, including coming back from bankruptcy to be even more of a success.

    But yeah, anonymous commenter on a niche blog, I’m sure you got him pegged.

    Damn, the grandiose proclamations of some of you who haven’t accomplished a hundredth of what Trump has really does redefine loving the smell of your own farts.

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  95. @Percy Gryce
    Isn't the buried lede here that Gen. John Kelly has emerged as an immigration hawk?

    I remember the moaning around here that we were going to have an amnesty in a month with Kelly as CoS.

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  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @Spud Boy
    The stages of Trump Derangement Syndrome proceed along these lines:

    1. Trump is literally Hitler.
    2. OK, Trump isn't Hitler, but he's incompetent.
    3. OK, Trump isn't incompetent, but he's ineffective.
    4. OK, Trump is effective, but I don't like what he's doing.

    The stages of Trump Derangement Syndrome proceed along these lines:

    1. Trump is literally Hitler.
    2. OK, Trump isn’t Hitler, but he’s incompetent.
    3. OK, Trump isn’t incompetent, but he’s ineffective.
    4. OK, Trump is effective, but I don’t like what he’s doing.

    Followed by step 5:

    5. OK, Trump is literally Hitler.

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    The iSteve version of TDS

    1) Trump is going to betray us
    2) Trump really isn't going to get us anything
    3) Trump isn't really serious
    4) Anyone could have done that
    (Repeat back to 1 when the next issue arises)
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  97. @D. K.
    LBJ's obituary in the nation's self-proclaimed "paper-of-record" included the details on his death:

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0827.html

    They found Mr. Johnson lying beside his bed. They said later he had already turned dark blue and appeared to be dead.

    If Lyndon Johnson had “turned dark blue” in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.

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    If Lyndon Johnson had “turned dark blue” in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.

     

    And JFK might have lived...
    , @nebulafox
    I don't agree on Vietnam: once we tacitly consented to Diem's death, a ground intervention of some form was a fait accompli. I don't think JFK would have screwed it up quite as badly as LBJ did, but with the nature of the pre-Tet guerrilla conflict combined with all the other factors, domestic and political, it is hard to see us avoiding at least having a six-digit amount force there after 1963. Le Duan wasn't going to go away, and he was the one controlling things in Hanoi, not the severely ailing Ho Chi Minh, who'd been sidelined and effectively made a puppet by the Kennedy years-and who tragically was more amenable to political dealings with Saigon. (Ho was older than Mao was. In an area of the world that still had some regions dealing with smallpox in the 1960s, that was positively ancient.)

    I do agree with the Immigration Act, though. Interestingly enough, it is probable that the CR Act wouldn't have been passed either, without Kennedy's death and Johnson's accession.

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  98. Coemgen says:
    @nebulafox
    Isn't that just the case? Counterfactual history is fun, but in some ways, is the ultimate intellectual masterbation.

    >If only LBJ hadn’t resigned, perhaps he could’ve been reelected. Unlikely, since he received the bulk of the blame for Vietnam in ’68.

    Agreed. I don't see how he could have. Johnson was probably one of the most ruthless, skilled politicians this nation has produced, but the odds were just not in his favor in '68: he couldn't even leave the White House but for fear of vicious riots. Daily assassination threats. In order to beat Nixon, apart from keeping all the states that Humphrey won, LBJ would have either had to won California-Nixon's home state, and as baffling as it is to consider now, a fortress bastion of Cold War Republicanism that also produced Earl Warren and Ronald Reagan-or both Ohio and Illinois. Given what happened in Chicago and the animus directed at LBJ from conservative Rust Belt Democrats, that wasn't very likely to happen, either. Nixon also likely wouldn't have underestimated LBJ like he did Humphrey.

    Ironically, the much maligned Hubert Humphrey probably was the best choice for the Democrats. He could call on the support of the White House and the still potent New Deal coalition without being the ailing and unpopular Johnson himself. Had the election gone on for two more weeks, he probably would have won: Nixon was up by 15 percentage points in early September. It really speaks to the strength of the New Deal coalition, and to LBJ's unique political skills, that when they went DEFCON afterwards, they were able to haul back a lot of Wallace's Northern supporters. Often forgotten is that George Wallace's support was far from limited to the Deep South, although he did have a pretty hard electoral ceiling. But then again, Wallace knew that: his goal wasn't to win, but to throw it to the Senate.

    (I think RFK would have made a good POTUS... in 1976. Johnson and his Texas cronies would have sooner sunk the ship than have him as his successor, Daley likely wouldn't have backed him, Schlesinger's fantasies aside, and LBJ also had J. Edgar Hoover-who pretty much *was* RFK back in the 1920s and 1930s. It's a classic case of two men not having good chemistry because they are too much alike-at his disposal. McCarthy's Oregon upset was in no small part due to Hoover's merry men leaking a little memo detailing RFK's wiretapping activities, the largest amount pre-PATRIOT Act, as AG during the Kennedy Administration.)

    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress–and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don’t remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don’t remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created “the Vietnam War”–as we know it–until I took a U.S. history course in college.

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    I think they did.

    "Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids have you killed today?"
    , @nebulafox
    A Democratic super-majority that had been blocking Civil Rights bills more or less continuously for the greater part of a century. I'm not a fan of the guy politically or personally, myself, but I'll acknowledge talent where it exists.

    Then you must not have paid attention to what happened in Chicago that year.

    @bomag

    They don't, but neither are the Congressional Republicans exactly making Theodore Roosevelt proud. Official Washington over the past 25 years has grown increasingly less tolerant not just of genuinely innovative political thought not guided by the trends of the day, but having an independent personality in general. Everything, every slight eccentricity is suppressed to the point that only a sociopath or an empty bag would choose politics as a career. A President can't even comment on the quality of a woman's butt anymore. That's the highest form of flattery.

    Speaking of Roosevelt:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdOZWrTUYAEdYVB.jpg

    http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-immigrant-who-comes-here-should-be-required-within-five-years-to-learn-english-theodore-roosevelt-25-9-0961.jpg
    , @EriK
    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c54c67c4-dfd9-47ea-af95-f57706577f15
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    You say you don't remember this like you were around then, but then later in the paragraph you tell us you couldn't have been around then as the Vietnam War was history during your college years.

    I wasn't there either, but I've read lots about how much the anti-war protesters hated LBJ, as he ramped up the war. BTW, an important part of his 1964 campaign rhetoric against the great libertarian Barry Goldwater was that he, Johnson, was going to keep us out of war.

    Flip brings up a famous chant in the history of the turbulent late 1960's, but you should read about the violence at the Democrat convention of 1968 in Chicago. That convention was infamous. Keep reading ...
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  99. J.Ross says: • Website
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/955471388290224128

    I love how their arguments are our arguments. Why yes, Matt, how apt of you to bring up Cahokia. We don’t want to end up like your own example.

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  100. D. K. says:
    @syonredux

    When President Trump mused last year about protecting immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, calling them “these incredible kids,” aides implored him privately to stop talking about them so sympathetically.

    When he batted around the idea of granting them citizenship over a Chinese dinner at the White House last year with Democratic leaders, Mr. Trump’s advisers quickly drew up a list of hard-line demands to send to Capitol Hill that they said must be included in any such plan.

    And twice over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has privately told lawmakers he is eager to strike a deal to extend legal status to the so-called Dreamers, only to have his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller, make clear afterward that such a compromise was not really in the offing — unless it also included a host of stiffer immigration restrictions.
     
    I get the impression that the NYTIMES is dangling a quid pro quo in front of Trump: Amnesty for the "Dreamers" in exchange for the "strange, new respect" treatment from the MSM.....

    He already received that treatment from them– after ordering the bombing of a Syrian air base, to mollify the sad Ivanca, following the latest “chemical attack” hoax. How long did that effect last?

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    He already received that treatment from them– after ordering the bombing of a Syrian air base, to mollify the sad Ivanca, following the latest “chemical attack” hoax. How long did that effect last?
     
    But this time they would really, really (cross my heart, promise on my grandma) mean it.
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  101. @candid_observer
    There are a lot of lists about how to win at war.

    At the top of every one of them, I think you can find this:

    Know your enemy.

    I think Trump knows his enemy very well. But his opposition will never know him.

    It’s not just Trump, it applies to the White Right too. We know everything our enemies know, but they know nothing of us. We’ve grown up seeing their content constantly, but they’ve never bothered to take 5 minutes to read and digest ours. The only thing they know about us is what they read in their own propaganda.

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  102. Boethiuss says:
    @IHTG
    The attitude of Maggie Haberman towards Trump is interesting. Despite being a conventional NYC liberal Jewish lady, she clearly just can't bring herself to HATE HATE HATE him, much to the anger of her #Resistance readership. The impression one gets is of some aging auntie who is constantly upset at her favorite bad boy for misbehaving - but he's still her boy!

    The attitude of Maggie Haberman towards Trump is interesting. Despite being a conventional NYC liberal Jewish lady, she clearly just can’t bring herself to HATE HATE HATE him, much to the anger of her #Resistance readership. The impression one gets is of some aging auntie who is constantly upset at her favorite bad boy for misbehaving – but he’s still her boy!

    It’s two things I think: the first is what Steve mentioned in the OP: ie, to insult, or more likely intimidate Trump into flipping the immigration issue. Ie, All The Kool Kids are pro-immigration, you don’t want to be one of the weird ones do you?

    The second is the outside game, which is probably more important. Ie, sigh, we all know Trump is an idiot don’t we. We don’t want to be a nativist like he is. The good news is that I don’t think this is likely not working. I haven’t head a thing about the shutdown from non-political sources, much different than 2013. The structure of shutdowns, as they currently are, seems to favor the executive. If it all works out right, there is a chance that DACA will go away, plus some small or medium gain in the opinion polls due to the Democrats’ radicalism on the situation.

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  103. @Percy Gryce
    Isn't the buried lede here that Gen. John Kelly has emerged as an immigration hawk?

    The first thing I remember reading about Kelly when he started as Chief of Staff was that he proposed “between zero and one” as the annual refugee quota.

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  104. Boethiuss says:
    @candid_observer
    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump's call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don't, and refuse to, understand their opposition.

    One of the big mistakes the media made with Kelly was to go after him just the way they went after Trump over that manufactured issue with Trump’s call to the wife of the soldier killed in Africa.

    Nothing could have been more convincing to Kelly that these people were disgusting, unpatriotic hacks than how they trashed him for his point of view, even when his own son had died in combat.

    If Kelly ever needed any further reason to be loyal to Trump, the media gave it to him.

    Again, these creeps in the media don’t, and refuse to, understand their opposition.

    Yeah, I think this is exactly right. It didn’t have to turn out that way either, but thankfully for us it did.

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  105. I think this shutdown underlined for a lot of Normies where Democratic priorities lie.

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    I think this shutdown underlined for a lot of Normies where Democratic priorities lie.
     
    I hope so. Come next autumn a good campaign add to make would be a montage of democratic Congressman making statements about DACA. DACA this, DACA that, DACA t'other................DACA, DACA, DACA. This is what they really care about. Those clips could be interleaved with stories about people dying of opioid overdoses or being murdered by illegal aliens. Remember, Mr. and Mrs. America, what Democrats are really willing to go the mat for. The Democrats have handed the Republicans a really good issue, if the GOP is willing to exploit it.
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  106. syonredux says:
    @D. K.
    He already received that treatment from them-- after ordering the bombing of a Syrian air base, to mollify the sad Ivanca, following the latest "chemical attack" hoax. How long did that effect last?

    He already received that treatment from them– after ordering the bombing of a Syrian air base, to mollify the sad Ivanca, following the latest “chemical attack” hoax. How long did that effect last?

    But this time they would really, really (cross my heart, promise on my grandma) mean it.

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  107. I’ll Trust Tom Cotton On Immigration When He Calls For An Immigration Moratorium

    I’ll Trust Tom Cotton When He Calls For The Deportation Of All Illegal Alien Invaders

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  108. Maj. Kong says:

    O/T

    Uber-cuck NRO editor Jason Steorts morally shames conservative Americans into “accepting responsibility” for the invading foreigners.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455598/daca-defeerred-action-childhood-arrivals-americans-responsibility-undocumented-immigrants

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    I am willing to accept the moral responsibility of physically removing them, considering we didn't do enough to stop them coming in the first place.

    Much like the chore of lugging garbage out of my house is my responsibility because I help create the garbage.
    , @bomag

    Uber-cuck NRO editor Jason Steorts...
     
    He anticipates being called a cuck. LOL.

    This gist of the article: "let in the illegals who are here now, but no more", which has been said for the last fifty years, and it has brought us to the precipice of a demographic shift into Third World status.

    It could well have been published in Slate for all the honorifics bestowed upon immigrants and sneering hatred for those "too far" to the Right.

    Uber-cuck is too mild.

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  109. guest says:
    @IHTG
    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/955273100475731968
    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/955274155531923457

    Another Miller article - “Stephen Miller: Immigration agitator and White House survivor”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-agitator-and-white-house-survivor/2018/01/21/7a1f7778-fcae-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html

    “Everything except for the part where he is getting blamed”

    Not plausible, so I don’t think he cares.

    “and/or risking his base fleeing”

    Is that happening? He would be risking it if he gives up on the Wall, but that’s the opposite of what’s happening. Appearing as if he actually wants Dreamers to stay is risky, but if Dreamers stay and he gets the Wall, eh, I don’t know.

    In any case, he’s obviously Winning™ right now, so what’s the worry?

    Oh, right, the worry is that he IS winning. That headline would be more accurate if it read: Trump Might Be Sure What He Wants on Immigration, Shutdown Works Against Our Side for Once, Run for the Hills!

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  110. The Washington Times says a recent opinion survey finds that voters want to reduce legal immigration.

    But the Washington Times also says that rewarding certain illegal alien invaders with amnesty is also popular. The American people would not support the granting of amnesty to any and all illegal alien invaders if they knew the total ramifications of the amnesty in question.

    President Trump must mop up the demoralized Democrats while he has them in political retreat. There is no need to negotiate any kind of amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Let the voters in the mid-term elections have their say about immigration policy.

    President Trump should call for an immigration moratorium and he should call for the deportation of all illegal alien invaders. Independents and many Democrats would be responsive to a political message that puts the interests of Americans ahead of the interests of foreign infiltrators.

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  111. guest says:
    @eah
    Haberman is Jewish -- probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don't call it the 'Jew York Times' for nothing) -- re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUI1eg5UQAAMchw.jpg

    If you don’t lay down and let brown people invade your country, you’re a racist. That was our clever trick, see. Make racism the worst sin possible, then use other races to get what we want. You can’t do anything, because every reaction but passive compliance is by definition racist.

    They didn’t plan on us not caring whether we’re called racists, however.

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  112. guest says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One of the assertions the anti-Trump media likes to make about him is that he's "thin-skinned." Evidence for that is that he punches back. Evidence against that is that he hasn't folded under nearly three years of the media's savage mockery. Obama was much more thin-skinned than Trump, displayed on the rare occasions that the press strayed from its fawning treatment of him.

    When Reagan was president, I remember someone observing that one of his strengths was that he didn't give a damn what the New York Times thought of him. True, but unfortunately Nancy probably did, just as Ivanka probably does today.

    When they read history (if they read history) what do they think of all those men who fought duels, putting their lives on the line over petty insults to their honor? A bunch of thin-skinned mama’s boys, too afraid to let it roll off their backs? Compensating for small penises, no doubt.

    Real men have no honor, and let people walk all over them. Hint-hint.

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  113. bomag says:
    @nebulafox
    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    I’m pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses

    The Dems have no such person; just politically correct automatons.

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  114. Charles Schumer, in 2013, criticizes the government shutdown:

    “Unless I get my way I’m going to shut the government down, I’m going to risk default for the nation. Now anyone can do that. I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say: I’m going to shut the government down. I’m going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It’s a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.”

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    Very nice catch. Democrats blundered into their own trap after Republicans generally dodged it every week in the late Obama term.
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  115. @Twodees Partain
    "The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years – circulation is up,"

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.

    It's more accurate to say that their circulation is fast becoming nonexistent.

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.

    After Trump was elected by, inter alia, rightfully pointing out that the Media has become a left wing political operation, the NYT and WaPo and others re-branded themselves as the political opposition under a thin veil of being the watchdogs of democracy – see, e.g, “Democracy Dies in Darkness.” Left wing types subscribed in record numbers in order to support the political opposition to Trump masquerading as non-partisan Media outlets.

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    I was confused by the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" tagline at first, because I forgot to perform a double-reverse flip olly gainer on my perspective. "Democracy" is of course always in danger when something you disagree with gets into power democratically. I forgot.

    I also forgot that being at odds with the MSM, when the MSM is at odds with you, is a sign that you oppose the institution of the Press and the very idea of oversight.* You prefer Darkness.

    What I had experienced since before the announcement of Trump's candidacy was the entire MSM, including most of the Republican faction, either not taking Trump seriously or attacking him directly. Then being flabbergasted by his victory, treating him as illegitimate, and seeking his downfall. What I missed was that amidst this onslaught the real story was that Trump wanted darkness.

    I didn't take into account the fact that if the people in the media had their druthers, they'd win one election and thereafter prevent all possible opposition. Boot stamping on a human face forever, and all that. They assume Trump would do the same, because they can't imagine anyone not wanting that. I didn't take that into account.

    *Sorta like how if you go after anyone or anything associated with the intellectual class, even if they attack you first, you're attacking Intellect itself, and are therefore an anti-intellectual.

    , @Brutusale
    "In 2016 the average paid and verified weekday circulation of the New York Times stood at 571.5 thousand copies, a decrease from over 1.92 million copies in 2013."--Statista

    Check out the cheap subscription prices.
    https://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp8U939.html

    Let's just say the revenue from today's delivered/digital subscriptions is a far cry from 20 years ago when I was paying $40/month for the Boston Globe.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I suppose that's possible, not having seen their subscription figures. Maybe I give undue credit to the public at large by assuming that anyone could see what nonsense the typical Times/Post article is. Maybe, also, I'm lulling myself with the thought that the MSM has revealed themselves as a gaggle of ninnies who can't even tell a decent lie.
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  116. @eah
    Haberman is Jewish -- probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don't call it the 'Jew York Times' for nothing) -- re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUI1eg5UQAAMchw.jpg

    says Meathead Reiner from his 99% white community and 99% white neighborhood.

    Let’s flood Reiner’s house with illegals. Any objection to that would boil down to one thing: REINER’S RACISM. Frightened to death of the browning of his household and community. He hates diversity.

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  117. guest says:
    @Maj. Kong
    O/T

    Uber-cuck NRO editor Jason Steorts morally shames conservative Americans into "accepting responsibility" for the invading foreigners.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455598/daca-defeerred-action-childhood-arrivals-americans-responsibility-undocumented-immigrants

    I am willing to accept the moral responsibility of physically removing them, considering we didn’t do enough to stop them coming in the first place.

    Much like the chore of lugging garbage out of my house is my responsibility because I help create the garbage.

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  118. @Intelligent Dasein

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.
     
    Been looking in the mirror, then, Simple Jack?

    You seem to be forgetting that Trump had to be elected, he couldn't just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place. And we're the ones who elected him. If you want to see the score sheet, look at the man in the Oval Office. He's our freaking score sheet. Against overwhelming odds, against treachery by our own party, against a universally hostile media, against what we now know to be a criminal conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, and the FBI to keep him out of office, we pushed him over the finish line.

    And it is now up to us to keep him in line, to keep him fighting for the right policies, because there's no end to the number of other factions who will seek to influence him for their own ends. Those whom you pathetically refer to as Eeyores are a critical part of the political process. They make noises when Trump goes off the leash. People like Tucker and Laura and Queen Ann (who actually read our comments) proceed to talk, tweet, and report about it. Pressure filters up to the Trump Administration, and hopefully the Leftward drift is abated.

    For the example, the "shithole" comment, whether Trump actually said it or not, was nothing less than a miracle, a last-minute stick-save preventing something that would have been the end of both Trump's presidency and the country. We may have been just hours away from a DACA amnesty which Trump had every intention of signing. Alternatively, the comment itself would have been politically ruinous for any prior Republican president. But we now have significant voices throughout the country who have spent years informing others about the demographic reality, and that was enough to cause a significant plurality of the body politic to spring to Trump's defense. Without that preparation and tactical maneuvering, all would have been lost.

    So what about your score sheet, Simple Jack? You've spent the entire time slobbering over everything Trump has done, whether it was right or not. You defended the cruise missile attack on Syria, which was a murderous and criminal act of terrorism on Trump's part. What are your thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the decertification of the Iran deal, the continued presence of US troops in Syria, the escalation of rhetoric with North Korea, the $100 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Is Trump blameless in all those, too? Are there always extenuating circumstances? 4d chess?

    And yes, just so you know, Trump has been rolled by tough operators since assuming office, just as nebulafox said. Xi Jinping made chop suey out of Trump's vaunted negotiation skills at Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un just won a major geopolitical victory against him. I am not disturbed by this, because in each case I believed the policies that Trump was pursuing to be wrong anyway. It is no great sorrow to lose when victory would have made things worse, but that does not mean that Trump didn't get outplayed.

    Your shtick is weak and tiresome. You better take that trash back to Breitbart where it will be appreciated. Don't bring it around here.

    Omfg aren’t you a triggered little lady.

    Well, yet another commenter with a misspelled name, I was one of the few people who wasnt on the “Surely Trump is doomed this time! says iSteve commenter for the 7th time this month” boat. Furthermore I was annoyed at him launching missiles at Syria, but in the end, did it really matter?

    Over and over and OVER again you and other moaning eeyores around here constantly proclaim “Betrayed!” around your ball gag. Its a unique form of iSteve commenter amnesia where no matter how many incorrect opinions you make, you never ever have to answer up to your track record.

    For example, the “shithole” comment. You really think Trump was going to sign that nonsense Graham and Durbin brought him? Ahahahahsh oh boy. If you can’t even get that right I’m supposed to listen to anything else you say? You think Kim and Xi have the upper hand? Oh please, do go on. Explain how when the SK President is saying Trump is helping things, when Xi has been nicely boxed in. I’m all ears here, pal.

    My scorecard is awesome around here. You are yet another self important blowhard in a gimp suit begging for a spanking. Settle down.

    “Queen Ann” good grief, do you even read what you write?

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  119. The first time the Republicans won the shutdown showdown in over 2 decades with Trump at the helm, and some of you are STILL trying to handwave it away.

    I’m surprised the pompous egos of some of you don’t have their own gravitational field at this point.

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  120. @Mr. Anon

    The stages of Trump Derangement Syndrome proceed along these lines:

    1. Trump is literally Hitler.
    2. OK, Trump isn’t Hitler, but he’s incompetent.
    3. OK, Trump isn’t incompetent, but he’s ineffective.
    4. OK, Trump is effective, but I don’t like what he’s doing.
     
    Followed by step 5:

    5. OK, Trump is literally Hitler.

    The iSteve version of TDS

    1) Trump is going to betray us
    2) Trump really isn’t going to get us anything
    3) Trump isn’t really serious
    4) Anyone could have done that
    (Repeat back to 1 when the next issue arises)

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    As far as I'm concerned, immigration is the only issue. Until he delivers something useful and tangible on that, he's on probation. And "doing something" could mean "doing nothing at all" if all Congress does is hand him an amnesty bill. The actions of the Senate Republicans have not been encouraging.
    , @MarkinLA
    Trump has already betrayed us by not using his executive power and cancelling DACA on day one like he promised.

    You are a fool if you think he has more leverage over the negotiations if he keeps DACA around. He has more leverage if he starts deporting them and their parents and uses the military to build the wall (Army Corp of Engineers). The Democrats will come running to the negotiating table and Trump can get everything he wants (even E-verify).

    Trump is just afraid there won't be any adulation for doing it.
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  121. Flip says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    They found Mr. Johnson lying beside his bed. They said later he had already turned dark blue and appeared to be dead.

     

    If Lyndon Johnson had "turned dark blue" in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.

    If Lyndon Johnson had “turned dark blue” in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.

    And JFK might have lived…

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  122. donut says:

    OT . I don’t know shit about climate change . I do know we’ve had a very mild winter here in Balto . And I don’t care about climate change TBH . I’m like the squirrels this year , I am plump and full with a healthy coat . “”Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof” . Anyway :

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    I normally cycle throughout the winter in NYC--in Central Park. (I've done so for about 30 years.) I rode over the weekend for the first time since December 19th. In other words, this has not been a typical winter in NYC. The last such winter where a month would go by without being able to cycle was 2010-11.
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  123. Flip says:
    @Coemgen
    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress--and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created "the Vietnam War"--as we know it--until I took a U.S. history course in college.

    I think they did.

    “Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids have you killed today?”

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  124. guest says:
    @Flip
    What is a right wing progressive?

    The right-wing of progressivism, the way I’d use the term. Though in this case, the above poster might possibly be thinking of people who are in the right camp but possess progressive attributes. Or those who agree with the important conclusions of progressives over on the left, but for different reasons.

    Sort of like how the War Party consists of people of allegedly different ideologies and political bases who for whatever reason agree on the use of force to preserve U.S. empire. For instance, leftists because World War G and rightists because Big Oil.

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  125. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack Hanson
    The iSteve version of TDS

    1) Trump is going to betray us
    2) Trump really isn't going to get us anything
    3) Trump isn't really serious
    4) Anyone could have done that
    (Repeat back to 1 when the next issue arises)

    As far as I’m concerned, immigration is the only issue. Until he delivers something useful and tangible on that, he’s on probation. And “doing something” could mean “doing nothing at all” if all Congress does is hand him an amnesty bill. The actions of the Senate Republicans have not been encouraging.

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    As far as I’m concerned, immigration is the only issue.
     
    Agreed. Obviously there is no shortage of issues, but if your country is wrested away from you and wrecked by a tiny tribe of overlords, then converted into a third-world cesspool with only very rich and (many more) very poor, nothing else matters.

    Because every single thing that you value, and which made your nation a decent, civilized place to live, is either under attack or already ruined.

    Virtually every country whose population was largely or exclusively white is being treated to this same destruction. And these are the only countries being treated to it. Just coincidence, of course.

    It's a shame to have to be focused upon race so much--used to be, I didn't care about race. But our enemies have forced this upon us.

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  126. guest says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Obviously the NYT has absolutely no interest in Trump coming to a deal with the Democrats, so maybe Steve should give them some credit for knowing exactly what they are doing. The Times and the Post are loving the Trump years - circulation is up, and the journalists all feel like heroes working for the "resistance." A government shutdown is manna for the NYT - real world consequences for their readers - small; amount of bloviating and journalistic hot air it generates - tremendous.

    They think of themselves as the Resistance when there’s nothing lording over them, and even when there’s no opposition to speak of. There’s always gotta be a revanchist somewhere, undercover wreckers, KKK members under the bed and Benazir in the closet.

    It must give them dopamine hits to be actually losing a little ground, but they prefer to be actually winning, and pressing home their advantage, always. It can’t feel good enough to watch Trump not be destroyed everyday to make up for it not being the Obama-Clinton era anymore.

    Anyway, the NYT and WaPo aren’t about circulation, even if it is up. Otherwise, their business would’ve been run very differently for a long time. There’s a reason people came up with terms like the Bezos/Carlos Slim Blogs. They want influence, which they still have, but they always want to be winning.

    They’re branches of the Cathedral, and the Cathedral rules. That’s what it does. They aren’t content to trade unopposed influence-peddling over deciders for increased readership.

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  127. nebulafox says:
    @Coemgen
    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress--and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created "the Vietnam War"--as we know it--until I took a U.S. history course in college.

    A Democratic super-majority that had been blocking Civil Rights bills more or less continuously for the greater part of a century. I’m not a fan of the guy politically or personally, myself, but I’ll acknowledge talent where it exists.

    Then you must not have paid attention to what happened in Chicago that year.

    They don’t, but neither are the Congressional Republicans exactly making Theodore Roosevelt proud. Official Washington over the past 25 years has grown increasingly less tolerant not just of genuinely innovative political thought not guided by the trends of the day, but having an independent personality in general. Everything, every slight eccentricity is suppressed to the point that only a sociopath or an empty bag would choose politics as a career. A President can’t even comment on the quality of a woman’s butt anymore. That’s the highest form of flattery.

    Speaking of Roosevelt:

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  128. nebulafox says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    They found Mr. Johnson lying beside his bed. They said later he had already turned dark blue and appeared to be dead.

     

    If Lyndon Johnson had "turned dark blue" in 1962 we might not have had the 1965 Immigration Act nor the Vietnam War.

    I don’t agree on Vietnam: once we tacitly consented to Diem’s death, a ground intervention of some form was a fait accompli. I don’t think JFK would have screwed it up quite as badly as LBJ did, but with the nature of the pre-Tet guerrilla conflict combined with all the other factors, domestic and political, it is hard to see us avoiding at least having a six-digit amount force there after 1963. Le Duan wasn’t going to go away, and he was the one controlling things in Hanoi, not the severely ailing Ho Chi Minh, who’d been sidelined and effectively made a puppet by the Kennedy years-and who tragically was more amenable to political dealings with Saigon. (Ho was older than Mao was. In an area of the world that still had some regions dealing with smallpox in the 1960s, that was positively ancient.)

    I do agree with the Immigration Act, though. Interestingly enough, it is probable that the CR Act wouldn’t have been passed either, without Kennedy’s death and Johnson’s accession.

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  129. guest says:
    @AndrewR
    I question your intelligence, Sailer, if you think that pointing out that someone is willfully ignorant is the same as saying they're not intelligent. It's objectively true that Trump doesn't know or want to know the details of any policies. Whether he lacks the intelligence to understand those details is less clear.

    You’re absolutely right. No one ever took an imputation of ignorance as an insult to their intelligence. Those things aren’t even related in most people’s minds.

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    It would have been better to say what you actually mean instead of masking your words behind passive-aggressive sarcasm.

    If you think that calling someone ignorant is the same as saying they're unintelligent, well, that's a personal problem. Ignorance can be fixed. Low intelligence cannot. Ignorance is a choice. Low intelligence is not.

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  130. nebulafox says:
    @nebulafox
    A Democratic super-majority that had been blocking Civil Rights bills more or less continuously for the greater part of a century. I'm not a fan of the guy politically or personally, myself, but I'll acknowledge talent where it exists.

    Then you must not have paid attention to what happened in Chicago that year.

    @bomag

    They don't, but neither are the Congressional Republicans exactly making Theodore Roosevelt proud. Official Washington over the past 25 years has grown increasingly less tolerant not just of genuinely innovative political thought not guided by the trends of the day, but having an independent personality in general. Everything, every slight eccentricity is suppressed to the point that only a sociopath or an empty bag would choose politics as a career. A President can't even comment on the quality of a woman's butt anymore. That's the highest form of flattery.

    Speaking of Roosevelt:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdOZWrTUYAEdYVB.jpg

    http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-every-immigrant-who-comes-here-should-be-required-within-five-years-to-learn-english-theodore-roosevelt-25-9-0961.jpg

    Note: second part of that comment was addressed to bomag.

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  131. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack Hanson
    I think this shutdown underlined for a lot of Normies where Democratic priorities lie.

    I think this shutdown underlined for a lot of Normies where Democratic priorities lie.

    I hope so. Come next autumn a good campaign add to make would be a montage of democratic Congressman making statements about DACA. DACA this, DACA that, DACA t’other…………….DACA, DACA, DACA. This is what they really care about. Those clips could be interleaved with stories about people dying of opioid overdoses or being murdered by illegal aliens. Remember, Mr. and Mrs. America, what Democrats are really willing to go the mat for. The Democrats have handed the Republicans a really good issue, if the GOP is willing to exploit it.

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  132. guest says:
    @nebulafox
    It all depends: do the Democrats quietly give up on the "Trump is a Russian spy" story (I'll repeat myself yet again: no halfway competent intelligence service would ever, ever pick Donald J. Trump as a mole), which isn't getting anywhere in spite of all the attempts of the WaPo and NYT to push back the wind, and focus instead on his financial corruption (the man is a 1980s NYC real estate developer...). If they do, they probably won't get him to resign, but if they are smart enough, they can make him into a lame duck and take Congress in '18. Trump is no political genius. I'm pretty sure a devious operator with a reality based attitude toward the American masses, like FDR or LBJ, could pretty easily castrate him.

    If they don't, and combine this with shutting down the government on the behalf of illegals, that might be the one thing that can more than offset the GOP's inexplicable decision to double-down on Dubya-era economic orthodoxy, overwhelmingly unpopular with all except the donor class that quite literally demanded it. This might just well happen, because for the former to happen, the Democrats will have to implicitly admit that nobody in Moscow forced Hillary to flat-out suck as a campaigner, even with the backing of 99% of the American elite's money, media, etc. They just overestimated how important elites were-by making HRC the candidate of John McCain and George Bush and Paul Ryan to boot, they deceased her popularity, they didn't increase it.

    As for Mueller-since when has incompetence and venality had consequences in Washington? Karl Rove and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice can still write op-eds, for Chrissakes.

    I imagine Russia-gate will eventually be dropped, no one will admit in mixed company to having ever taken it seriously (though in their respective Dark Corners they’ll take it [whatever it is, exactly] as the gospel truth), and history books will treat the idea that the political establishment and MSM ever seriously suggested that Trump was compromised by foreign intelligence or that Russia stole the election as a kooky conspiracy theory.

    Though of course they’ll maintain Russia “interfered” somehow, and that there was a genuine gate-y aura surrounding the Trump administration that they can’t put their finger on.

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  133. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt
    Charles Schumer, in 2013, criticizes the government shutdown:

    "Unless I get my way I'm going to shut the government down, I'm going to risk default for the nation. Now anyone can do that. I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say: I'm going to shut the government down. I'm going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis."

    https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/955090647106678784

    Very nice catch. Democrats blundered into their own trap after Republicans generally dodged it every week in the late Obama term.

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  134. J.Ross says: • Website
    @IHTG
    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/955273100475731968
    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/955274155531923457

    Another Miller article - “Stephen Miller: Immigration agitator and White House survivor”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-agitator-and-white-house-survivor/2018/01/21/7a1f7778-fcae-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html

    Miller’s not really replaceable. All those guys that left were not really necessary and Bannon arguably never should have joined the cabinet. Miller’s different.

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  135. guest says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.
     
    After Trump was elected by, inter alia, rightfully pointing out that the Media has become a left wing political operation, the NYT and WaPo and others re-branded themselves as the political opposition under a thin veil of being the watchdogs of democracy - see, e.g, "Democracy Dies in Darkness." Left wing types subscribed in record numbers in order to support the political opposition to Trump masquerading as non-partisan Media outlets.

    I was confused by the “Democracy Dies in Darkness” tagline at first, because I forgot to perform a double-reverse flip olly gainer on my perspective. “Democracy” is of course always in danger when something you disagree with gets into power democratically. I forgot.

    I also forgot that being at odds with the MSM, when the MSM is at odds with you, is a sign that you oppose the institution of the Press and the very idea of oversight.* You prefer Darkness.

    What I had experienced since before the announcement of Trump’s candidacy was the entire MSM, including most of the Republican faction, either not taking Trump seriously or attacking him directly. Then being flabbergasted by his victory, treating him as illegitimate, and seeking his downfall. What I missed was that amidst this onslaught the real story was that Trump wanted darkness.

    I didn’t take into account the fact that if the people in the media had their druthers, they’d win one election and thereafter prevent all possible opposition. Boot stamping on a human face forever, and all that. They assume Trump would do the same, because they can’t imagine anyone not wanting that. I didn’t take that into account.

    *Sorta like how if you go after anyone or anything associated with the intellectual class, even if they attack you first, you’re attacking Intellect itself, and are therefore an anti-intellectual.

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  136. Forbes says:
    @donut
    OT . I don't know shit about climate change . I do know we've had a very mild winter here in Balto . And I don't care about climate change TBH . I'm like the squirrels this year , I am plump and full with a healthy coat . ""Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" . Anyway :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=773&v=cu5Lu_lls4A

    I normally cycle throughout the winter in NYC–in Central Park. (I’ve done so for about 30 years.) I rode over the weekend for the first time since December 19th. In other words, this has not been a typical winter in NYC. The last such winter where a month would go by without being able to cycle was 2010-11.

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  137. EriK says:
    @Coemgen
    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress--and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created "the Vietnam War"--as we know it--until I took a U.S. history course in college.
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  138. whorefinder says: • Website

    One sign of Trump’s brilliancy is the fact that despite all of his amazing victories and accomplishments thus far the Left still thinks he’s an idiot. He’s got them still underestimating him despite everything. The man’s a master manipulator and has Sun Tzu’d the American political and media class….and is still doing it in real time.

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    Yep. A great example of that is Trump's "I'm, like, a very stable genius..." tweet. Like red meat tossed to jackals. The elitist press couldn't help but pounce on it and gloat their imagined superiority.

    Trump stirs up meaningless controversy (does Trump's tweet mean he's an idiot?) as cover to distract the opposition while he gets real things done. Godd*mn genius.

    One charge the MSM regularly levels at Trump is he cares so much about what the press says about him. They're half right. Trump cares about what the press says insofar as what they say helps him and his agenda. Otherwise he couldn't care less. Witness the "very stable genius" tweet which he *knew* would have the MSM calling him an idiot. That was intentional.

    Scott Adams is right. Trump is the most gifted Presidential persuader in history. It's a pleasure watching him outwit his enemies in plain sight using the same tactics time and again.

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  139. Pat Boyle says:
    @Joe Walker
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/we-re-u-s-jews-and-proud-to-be-arrested-for-dreamers-rights-1.5748750

    I’ll say what I always say about immigration – “Save the Whales”!!

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  140. @Milo Minderbinder
    Truman died a month before LBJ.

    Thanks, see my subsequent comment.

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  141. @AnotherDad


    Not true, D.K., Harry Truman was still alive until the early 1970′s.
     
    Sorry Achmed, but D.K. is correct.

    Eisenhower died in '69 and Truman in late '72. D.K. is taking about January 22, 1973.

    And yeah, it was a weird news day--at least for me. I wasn't even aware that the Roe was being litigated, and my reaction was something akin to "Huh? that makes no sense. What the heck does that have to do with the constitution?" (Part of a process of awakening.) Then news Johnson had died off that afternoon. Strange day.

    Thanks, see my subsequent comment.

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  142. @eah
    Haberman is Jewish -- probably Hirschfeld Davis as well (they don't call it the 'Jew York Times' for nothing) -- re the JQ, it is clear many Jews are implicitly, if not explicitly, anti-white.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUI1eg5UQAAMchw.jpg

    Oh, stifle yourself, Meathead!

    OK, yeah, Buck T. beat me to it.

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  143. @Intelligent Dasein

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.
     
    Been looking in the mirror, then, Simple Jack?

    You seem to be forgetting that Trump had to be elected, he couldn't just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place. And we're the ones who elected him. If you want to see the score sheet, look at the man in the Oval Office. He's our freaking score sheet. Against overwhelming odds, against treachery by our own party, against a universally hostile media, against what we now know to be a criminal conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, and the FBI to keep him out of office, we pushed him over the finish line.

    And it is now up to us to keep him in line, to keep him fighting for the right policies, because there's no end to the number of other factions who will seek to influence him for their own ends. Those whom you pathetically refer to as Eeyores are a critical part of the political process. They make noises when Trump goes off the leash. People like Tucker and Laura and Queen Ann (who actually read our comments) proceed to talk, tweet, and report about it. Pressure filters up to the Trump Administration, and hopefully the Leftward drift is abated.

    For the example, the "shithole" comment, whether Trump actually said it or not, was nothing less than a miracle, a last-minute stick-save preventing something that would have been the end of both Trump's presidency and the country. We may have been just hours away from a DACA amnesty which Trump had every intention of signing. Alternatively, the comment itself would have been politically ruinous for any prior Republican president. But we now have significant voices throughout the country who have spent years informing others about the demographic reality, and that was enough to cause a significant plurality of the body politic to spring to Trump's defense. Without that preparation and tactical maneuvering, all would have been lost.

    So what about your score sheet, Simple Jack? You've spent the entire time slobbering over everything Trump has done, whether it was right or not. You defended the cruise missile attack on Syria, which was a murderous and criminal act of terrorism on Trump's part. What are your thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the decertification of the Iran deal, the continued presence of US troops in Syria, the escalation of rhetoric with North Korea, the $100 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Is Trump blameless in all those, too? Are there always extenuating circumstances? 4d chess?

    And yes, just so you know, Trump has been rolled by tough operators since assuming office, just as nebulafox said. Xi Jinping made chop suey out of Trump's vaunted negotiation skills at Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un just won a major geopolitical victory against him. I am not disturbed by this, because in each case I believed the policies that Trump was pursuing to be wrong anyway. It is no great sorrow to lose when victory would have made things worse, but that does not mean that Trump didn't get outplayed.

    Your shtick is weak and tiresome. You better take that trash back to Breitbart where it will be appreciated. Don't bring it around here.

    Your polemic isn’t just misguided, it is dishonest. Shame on you Intelligent Dasein.

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    What are you talking about? I wrote nothing dishonest or misguided, nor is it a polemic.
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  144. @Mr. Anon
    I don't begrudge them some secret service protection, assuming it's not too expensive, and that they behave themselves: e.g., refrain from trading on the power of their office (as with the Clinton's bribery racket).

    What I do really dislike are the Presidential libraries, for a variety of reasons:

    1.) It is a waste of the public's money to run and maintain them

    2.) The raising of money to build them just provides another way to obligate a President to private interests. I.e., it is also a form of bribery.

    3.) It is unseemly, in a Republic, for Presidents to erect shrines to their memory - for any President to do so, and certainly for all of them to do it. They are supposed to be public servants, not emperors / demi-Gods.

    I agree, Mr. Anon, especially with point 3. That kind of crap is for Kings and Pharaohs and shit. As it is, there were never supposed to be anything like dynasties, as the high officials were meant to be the best of America’s elite, who would “serve” in public office with the true meaning of that word – give up the more lucrative work they were doing and give up a few years to help keep the small government running. Ha!

    We’ve had Camelot and these dynasties now, and it’s just not working out for the American people. I think we got lucky and probably got one of the better of the Kennedies, and luckily escaped any dynasty there, but then there was the Bush dynasty of fiascoes and one Clinton (whewww!) with still an existing dynastic spawn that we need to keep a close eye on.

    BTW, what is funny about the humble Jimmy Carter* compared to ole Ronnie, is that while there is Ronald Reagan National Airport right near downtown Washington, FS with as many commercial flights that can fit into that small space, we have Jimmy Carter Airport in Americus, GA (anyone outside of GA has most likely never heard of it), which is the closest thing to Plains, GA. The latter is an uncontrolled field (no tower, like 90% of the airports in the country), no airline service, and is the kind of place where one can land, and just taxi toward the trees and go take a piss, if one is in dire need.

    * I didn’t like his left-wing (for the late 1970′s) policies and poor leadership, but I’ll give him lots of credit for this.

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    Like Clement Attlee, Jimmy Carter was a modest little man with much to be modest about.
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  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    As far as I'm concerned, immigration is the only issue. Until he delivers something useful and tangible on that, he's on probation. And "doing something" could mean "doing nothing at all" if all Congress does is hand him an amnesty bill. The actions of the Senate Republicans have not been encouraging.

    As far as I’m concerned, immigration is the only issue.

    Agreed. Obviously there is no shortage of issues, but if your country is wrested away from you and wrecked by a tiny tribe of overlords, then converted into a third-world cesspool with only very rich and (many more) very poor, nothing else matters.

    Because every single thing that you value, and which made your nation a decent, civilized place to live, is either under attack or already ruined.

    Virtually every country whose population was largely or exclusively white is being treated to this same destruction. And these are the only countries being treated to it. Just coincidence, of course.

    It’s a shame to have to be focused upon race so much–used to be, I didn’t care about race. But our enemies have forced this upon us.

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  146. Thea says:
    @Anonymous
    https://www.twitter.com/whalefishery/status/955326356019187713

    So he admits there is a war against white America lead by rich, influencial Jews encouraging “Brown” shock troops.

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  147. @Coemgen
    LBJ was a putz with a Democrat super-majority in Congress--and dramatically more collegial Congress than the current Congress.

    Anyhow, I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-LBJ slogans. I don't remember any anti-war protesters chanting anti-Democrat party slogans. I never knew that LBJ and the Democrats created "the Vietnam War"--as we know it--until I took a U.S. history course in college.

    You say you don’t remember this like you were around then, but then later in the paragraph you tell us you couldn’t have been around then as the Vietnam War was history during your college years.

    I wasn’t there either, but I’ve read lots about how much the anti-war protesters hated LBJ, as he ramped up the war. BTW, an important part of his 1964 campaign rhetoric against the great libertarian Barry Goldwater was that he, Johnson, was going to keep us out of war.

    Flip brings up a famous chant in the history of the turbulent late 1960′s, but you should read about the violence at the Democrat convention of 1968 in Chicago. That convention was infamous. Keep reading …

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  148. bomag says:
    @Maj. Kong
    O/T

    Uber-cuck NRO editor Jason Steorts morally shames conservative Americans into "accepting responsibility" for the invading foreigners.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455598/daca-defeerred-action-childhood-arrivals-americans-responsibility-undocumented-immigrants

    Uber-cuck NRO editor Jason Steorts…

    He anticipates being called a cuck. LOL.

    This gist of the article: “let in the illegals who are here now, but no more”, which has been said for the last fifty years, and it has brought us to the precipice of a demographic shift into Third World status.

    It could well have been published in Slate for all the honorifics bestowed upon immigrants and sneering hatred for those “too far” to the Right.

    Uber-cuck is too mild.

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  149. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reagan, on the other hand, knew that he was going to die shortly after leaving office one way or another: as he said, why should he care what the historians would say?<
     
    I agree with that, but that's not the case for lots of politicians even when they are old. The commie Merkel over in Germany is no spring chicken herself, but, according to Nick Styx of VDare (and I really like his term) is just "obituary shopping". Lots of these people DO care what people will think of them after they are dead, and that's still a problem, because their ideals that they want to be remembered for are still wrong and evil.

    Ronnie Reagan was a really prinicipled man - I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies. People keep getting on him about the amnesty, but Reagan's problem was that he was too trusting of Americans - the ones in the government, that is.

    I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies.

    It is always funny that every Reagan worshipper always points to something Reagan said. Yeah, ole Ronnie was a magnificent saider, one of the best ever. Unfortunately, he was one of the absolute worst diders and the major reason everything is so screwed up now. He didn’t make any attempt to stop the PC express train, he never pushed back against affirmative action, he expanded it, his idiotic trade and immigration policies (not just amnesty but guest workers and NAFTA), his psychotic fear of communism leading to a lot of our central American immigration, and his massive waste of money on the military. The silver tongued one with the empty head.

    If he was pricipled, just what were those principles? Doesn’t it get tiresome making excuses for that moron? Don’t you know that the only reason a bill gets stuffed with crap is because somebody wanted in there (according to FDR). Therefore, nobody get’s fooled in DC – they ALL know what is in those bills. Reagan signed them knowing what was in them.

    He was just lucky enough to be President during a period in economic history that usually only comes about once in a lifetime – the microelectronics revolution so he could take credit for the economy that would have expanded anyway.

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    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don't put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics, Mark. We've been through this with health care in which you would like for the Feral Gov't to redistribute my money. The hell with that. Just go ahead and say you want to steal mine and other's money for your medical problems - it'd be more honest.

    As far as the economic boom in the 1980's I agree it didn't have lots to do with Reagan's policies as he had to work with Democrat congress and Senate. It wasn't the micro-electronics revolution anyway; things got much better a few years after FED chairman Volcker jacked up interest rates to get inflation in check - it was out of hand through the end of the 1970's.

    ,,, his psychotic fear of communism ...
     
    Yeah, psychotic* right, tell that to the millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and mechanical/electrical engineers who won the Cold War. Ronnie led that win and was there near the end for the surrender.

    Reagan was only behind Silent Cal, maybe Ike, and possibly T. Roosevelt as the greatest presidents of the 20th century go.

    * These people were not psychotic enough to fear Communism.
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  150. @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Your polemic isn't just misguided, it is dishonest. Shame on you Intelligent Dasein.

    What are you talking about? I wrote nothing dishonest or misguided, nor is it a polemic.

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    You couldn't even get my opinion right on Syria's bombing for starters.

    And as for a polemic, let's just say that's a rather generous term applied for what was a meltdown. I hope you wiped the spit off your monitor when you were done.
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  151. MarkinLA says:
    @Jack Hanson
    The iSteve version of TDS

    1) Trump is going to betray us
    2) Trump really isn't going to get us anything
    3) Trump isn't really serious
    4) Anyone could have done that
    (Repeat back to 1 when the next issue arises)

    Trump has already betrayed us by not using his executive power and cancelling DACA on day one like he promised.

    You are a fool if you think he has more leverage over the negotiations if he keeps DACA around. He has more leverage if he starts deporting them and their parents and uses the military to build the wall (Army Corp of Engineers). The Democrats will come running to the negotiating table and Trump can get everything he wants (even E-verify).

    Trump is just afraid there won’t be any adulation for doing it.

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    Sorry dude, if you cant see the strategic value in watching the Dems self destruct over this you're not a serious person who should be discussing politics.

    Stick to sportsball.
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  152. @MarkinLA
    I read a whole book of his radio addresses and other biographies.

    It is always funny that every Reagan worshipper always points to something Reagan said. Yeah, ole Ronnie was a magnificent saider, one of the best ever. Unfortunately, he was one of the absolute worst diders and the major reason everything is so screwed up now. He didn't make any attempt to stop the PC express train, he never pushed back against affirmative action, he expanded it, his idiotic trade and immigration policies (not just amnesty but guest workers and NAFTA), his psychotic fear of communism leading to a lot of our central American immigration, and his massive waste of money on the military. The silver tongued one with the empty head.

    If he was pricipled, just what were those principles? Doesn't it get tiresome making excuses for that moron? Don't you know that the only reason a bill gets stuffed with crap is because somebody wanted in there (according to FDR). Therefore, nobody get's fooled in DC - they ALL know what is in those bills. Reagan signed them knowing what was in them.

    He was just lucky enough to be President during a period in economic history that usually only comes about once in a lifetime - the microelectronics revolution so he could take credit for the economy that would have expanded anyway.

    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don’t put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics, Mark. We’ve been through this with health care in which you would like for the Feral Gov’t to redistribute my money. The hell with that. Just go ahead and say you want to steal mine and other’s money for your medical problems – it’d be more honest.

    As far as the economic boom in the 1980′s I agree it didn’t have lots to do with Reagan’s policies as he had to work with Democrat congress and Senate. It wasn’t the micro-electronics revolution anyway; things got much better a few years after FED chairman Volcker jacked up interest rates to get inflation in check – it was out of hand through the end of the 1970′s.

    ,,, his psychotic fear of communism …

    Yeah, psychotic* right, tell that to the millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and mechanical/electrical engineers who won the Cold War. Ronnie led that win and was there near the end for the surrender.

    Reagan was only behind Silent Cal, maybe Ike, and possibly T. Roosevelt as the greatest presidents of the 20th century go.

    * These people were not psychotic enough to fear Communism.

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    And his fear of Communism would appear to have been vindicated by subsequent events, notably in Venezuela.
    , @MarkinLA
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don’t put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics,

    This from the guy who thinks 18 year olds barely making the rent and car payments are going to voluntarily buy very high deductable health insurance because some libertarian phantasy land fool said so.

    Do you really think "winning" the Cold War was worth the trillions we spent and the hundreds of thousands of dead or destroyed American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese). The USSR imploded on it's own and had little to do with Reagan, JFK, LBJ and all the rest.
    , @Anonymous
    Volcker was appointed by Jimmy Carter. Reagan presided over what was then by far the biggest peacetime borrowing program ever enacted by the federal government. Made it look like the economy was booming. Once his veep had left office the national debt was 3x what it was when he took office.
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  153. Moses says:
    @whorefinder
    One sign of Trump's brilliancy is the fact that despite all of his amazing victories and accomplishments thus far the Left still thinks he's an idiot. He's got them still underestimating him despite everything. The man's a master manipulator and has Sun Tzu'd the American political and media class....and is still doing it in real time.

    Yep. A great example of that is Trump’s “I’m, like, a very stable genius…” tweet. Like red meat tossed to jackals. The elitist press couldn’t help but pounce on it and gloat their imagined superiority.

    Trump stirs up meaningless controversy (does Trump’s tweet mean he’s an idiot?) as cover to distract the opposition while he gets real things done. Godd*mn genius.

    One charge the MSM regularly levels at Trump is he cares so much about what the press says about him. They’re half right. Trump cares about what the press says insofar as what they say helps him and his agenda. Otherwise he couldn’t care less. Witness the “very stable genius” tweet which he *knew* would have the MSM calling him an idiot. That was intentional.

    Scott Adams is right. Trump is the most gifted Presidential persuader in history. It’s a pleasure watching him outwit his enemies in plain sight using the same tactics time and again.

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    One charge the MSM regularly levels at Trump is he cares so much about what the press says about him. They’re half right. Trump cares about what the press says insofar as what they say helps him and his agenda.
     
    I would add that Trump understands who controls the Megaphone, as Steve calls it. Decades of media consolidation and monopolization have limited that number to six major corporations and a handful of celebrities.

    Trump, meanwhile, has been swimming in the media stream since the 70s, and understands he right now needs to use them to get his message out; for that is said about his Twitter feed speaking directly to the people, Trump's Twitter feed would be worthless if the media were not amplifying each of his Tweets to rock-concert levels.

    I've long said that the only people who truly salivate about Twitter are journalists, because it gives them quick and easy access to any relevant Important Person on any subject without having to call a flack up or even go to an individual's website, and they all seem so dang obsessed with. Trump realized that the media might ignore a press release or a Facebook post, but for some reason are compulsively drawn to notice, read, and report Twitter posts of Important People on a topic at hand---e.g. why JPod feels the need to attack Steve personally for mild Twitter musings..

    It's a hack of the media hivemind Trump's worked well.
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  154. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don't put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics, Mark. We've been through this with health care in which you would like for the Feral Gov't to redistribute my money. The hell with that. Just go ahead and say you want to steal mine and other's money for your medical problems - it'd be more honest.

    As far as the economic boom in the 1980's I agree it didn't have lots to do with Reagan's policies as he had to work with Democrat congress and Senate. It wasn't the micro-electronics revolution anyway; things got much better a few years after FED chairman Volcker jacked up interest rates to get inflation in check - it was out of hand through the end of the 1970's.

    ,,, his psychotic fear of communism ...
     
    Yeah, psychotic* right, tell that to the millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and mechanical/electrical engineers who won the Cold War. Ronnie led that win and was there near the end for the surrender.

    Reagan was only behind Silent Cal, maybe Ike, and possibly T. Roosevelt as the greatest presidents of the 20th century go.

    * These people were not psychotic enough to fear Communism.

    And his fear of Communism would appear to have been vindicated by subsequent events, notably in Venezuela.

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    Ask the families and friends of the names on the Vietnam memorial if it was all worth it.

    Yeah, Vietnam and Venezuela were just about to invade the US when we preemptively attacked them. We need to fight them over there or we will fight them over hear. It is amazing there are still people who believe this nonsense.
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  155. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Moses
    Yep. A great example of that is Trump's "I'm, like, a very stable genius..." tweet. Like red meat tossed to jackals. The elitist press couldn't help but pounce on it and gloat their imagined superiority.

    Trump stirs up meaningless controversy (does Trump's tweet mean he's an idiot?) as cover to distract the opposition while he gets real things done. Godd*mn genius.

    One charge the MSM regularly levels at Trump is he cares so much about what the press says about him. They're half right. Trump cares about what the press says insofar as what they say helps him and his agenda. Otherwise he couldn't care less. Witness the "very stable genius" tweet which he *knew* would have the MSM calling him an idiot. That was intentional.

    Scott Adams is right. Trump is the most gifted Presidential persuader in history. It's a pleasure watching him outwit his enemies in plain sight using the same tactics time and again.

    One charge the MSM regularly levels at Trump is he cares so much about what the press says about him. They’re half right. Trump cares about what the press says insofar as what they say helps him and his agenda.

    I would add that Trump understands who controls the Megaphone, as Steve calls it. Decades of media consolidation and monopolization have limited that number to six major corporations and a handful of celebrities.

    Trump, meanwhile, has been swimming in the media stream since the 70s, and understands he right now needs to use them to get his message out; for that is said about his Twitter feed speaking directly to the people, Trump’s Twitter feed would be worthless if the media were not amplifying each of his Tweets to rock-concert levels.

    I’ve long said that the only people who truly salivate about Twitter are journalists, because it gives them quick and easy access to any relevant Important Person on any subject without having to call a flack up or even go to an individual’s website, and they all seem so dang obsessed with. Trump realized that the media might ignore a press release or a Facebook post, but for some reason are compulsively drawn to notice, read, and report Twitter posts of Important People on a topic at hand—e.g. why JPod feels the need to attack Steve personally for mild Twitter musings..

    It’s a hack of the media hivemind Trump’s worked well.

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  156. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don't put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics, Mark. We've been through this with health care in which you would like for the Feral Gov't to redistribute my money. The hell with that. Just go ahead and say you want to steal mine and other's money for your medical problems - it'd be more honest.

    As far as the economic boom in the 1980's I agree it didn't have lots to do with Reagan's policies as he had to work with Democrat congress and Senate. It wasn't the micro-electronics revolution anyway; things got much better a few years after FED chairman Volcker jacked up interest rates to get inflation in check - it was out of hand through the end of the 1970's.

    ,,, his psychotic fear of communism ...
     
    Yeah, psychotic* right, tell that to the millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and mechanical/electrical engineers who won the Cold War. Ronnie led that win and was there near the end for the surrender.

    Reagan was only behind Silent Cal, maybe Ike, and possibly T. Roosevelt as the greatest presidents of the 20th century go.

    * These people were not psychotic enough to fear Communism.

    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don’t put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics,

    This from the guy who thinks 18 year olds barely making the rent and car payments are going to voluntarily buy very high deductable health insurance because some libertarian phantasy land fool said so.

    Do you really think “winning” the Cold War was worth the trillions we spent and the hundreds of thousands of dead or destroyed American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese). The USSR imploded on it’s own and had little to do with Reagan, JFK, LBJ and all the rest.

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    Yeah, and that's from the guy who doesn't understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low. Then, if said young man has to get some help with a big cut or food poisoning, he can go in and pay what it actually costs to fix him up and not pay for 2 deadbeats and 5 illegal aliens at the same time. Now that's a price break I can get behind!

    Do you really think “winning” the Cold War was worth...
     
    I don't know if is worth it, Mark, judging by some of your most ignorant comments. Had Communism taken over the world, at least I wouldn't be reading this bullshit from you.

    To a guy who wouldn't know freedom if it came up and bit him on the ass.
    , @MarkinLA
    A libertarian talking about ignorance and stupidity. I guess when you are an expert, it kind of makes sense.
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  157. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don't put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics, Mark. We've been through this with health care in which you would like for the Feral Gov't to redistribute my money. The hell with that. Just go ahead and say you want to steal mine and other's money for your medical problems - it'd be more honest.

    As far as the economic boom in the 1980's I agree it didn't have lots to do with Reagan's policies as he had to work with Democrat congress and Senate. It wasn't the micro-electronics revolution anyway; things got much better a few years after FED chairman Volcker jacked up interest rates to get inflation in check - it was out of hand through the end of the 1970's.

    ,,, his psychotic fear of communism ...
     
    Yeah, psychotic* right, tell that to the millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and mechanical/electrical engineers who won the Cold War. Ronnie led that win and was there near the end for the surrender.

    Reagan was only behind Silent Cal, maybe Ike, and possibly T. Roosevelt as the greatest presidents of the 20th century go.

    * These people were not psychotic enough to fear Communism.

    Volcker was appointed by Jimmy Carter. Reagan presided over what was then by far the biggest peacetime borrowing program ever enacted by the federal government. Made it look like the economy was booming. Once his veep had left office the national debt was 3x what it was when he took office.

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    A) Yes, I didn't say Reagan appointed Mr. Volcker. Getting inflation under control, with the resulting normal free-market interest rates, did the trick, which leads to,

    B) I did not give credit to President Reagan for the better economic times in the mid-later-1980's,

    C) I just got done writing this to Mark - Reagan mistakenly trusted the untrustworthy members of congress and the senate. The military build-up that helped greatly to end the Cold War was supposed to be balanced by cuts in domestic spending. The D's reneged completely on that deal.

    Overall, I don't credit or debit the President, whomever it may be, very much with how the economy does. Of course, he can veto or sign bills, and he has the "bully pulpit", but it's the Congress that spends the money.
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  158. AndrewR says:
    @guest
    You're absolutely right. No one ever took an imputation of ignorance as an insult to their intelligence. Those things aren't even related in most people's minds.

    It would have been better to say what you actually mean instead of masking your words behind passive-aggressive sarcasm.

    If you think that calling someone ignorant is the same as saying they’re unintelligent, well, that’s a personal problem. Ignorance can be fixed. Low intelligence cannot. Ignorance is a choice. Low intelligence is not.

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  159. @MarkinLA
    Trump has already betrayed us by not using his executive power and cancelling DACA on day one like he promised.

    You are a fool if you think he has more leverage over the negotiations if he keeps DACA around. He has more leverage if he starts deporting them and their parents and uses the military to build the wall (Army Corp of Engineers). The Democrats will come running to the negotiating table and Trump can get everything he wants (even E-verify).

    Trump is just afraid there won't be any adulation for doing it.

    Sorry dude, if you cant see the strategic value in watching the Dems self destruct over this you’re not a serious person who should be discussing politics.

    Stick to sportsball.

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    I have been watching since that moron Reagan gave the store away for absolutely NOTHING and know not to put too much hope on the Dems "self destructing". Maybe you forgot how many times the Republicans managed to snatch defeat from the Democrats at the last minute. It appears you are the naïve one. Trump has already caved on some issues and got nothing. It is obvious Trump craves adulation and has little grasp of the finer points of an issue and was easily fooled by the emotional appeal to the dreamers. Instead of recognizing this you pretend that you see his masterful 12D chess in operation.
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  160. @Intelligent Dasein
    What are you talking about? I wrote nothing dishonest or misguided, nor is it a polemic.

    You couldn’t even get my opinion right on Syria’s bombing for starters.

    And as for a polemic, let’s just say that’s a rather generous term applied for what was a meltdown. I hope you wiped the spit off your monitor when you were done.

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  161. @Anonymous
    Volcker was appointed by Jimmy Carter. Reagan presided over what was then by far the biggest peacetime borrowing program ever enacted by the federal government. Made it look like the economy was booming. Once his veep had left office the national debt was 3x what it was when he took office.

    A) Yes, I didn’t say Reagan appointed Mr. Volcker. Getting inflation under control, with the resulting normal free-market interest rates, did the trick, which leads to,

    B) I did not give credit to President Reagan for the better economic times in the mid-later-1980′s,

    C) I just got done writing this to Mark – Reagan mistakenly trusted the untrustworthy members of congress and the senate. The military build-up that helped greatly to end the Cold War was supposed to be balanced by cuts in domestic spending. The D’s reneged completely on that deal.

    Overall, I don’t credit or debit the President, whomever it may be, very much with how the economy does. Of course, he can veto or sign bills, and he has the “bully pulpit”, but it’s the Congress that spends the money.

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    Sorry I'm so late. Just saying yours is a good & thoughtful response.
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  162. @MarkinLA
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don’t put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics,

    This from the guy who thinks 18 year olds barely making the rent and car payments are going to voluntarily buy very high deductable health insurance because some libertarian phantasy land fool said so.

    Do you really think "winning" the Cold War was worth the trillions we spent and the hundreds of thousands of dead or destroyed American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese). The USSR imploded on it's own and had little to do with Reagan, JFK, LBJ and all the rest.

    Yeah, and that’s from the guy who doesn’t understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low. Then, if said young man has to get some help with a big cut or food poisoning, he can go in and pay what it actually costs to fix him up and not pay for 2 deadbeats and 5 illegal aliens at the same time. Now that’s a price break I can get behind!

    Do you really think “winning” the Cold War was worth…

    I don’t know if is worth it, Mark, judging by some of your most ignorant comments. Had Communism taken over the world, at least I wouldn’t be reading this bullshit from you.

    To a guy who wouldn’t know freedom if it came up and bit him on the ass.

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    Yeah, and that’s from the guy who doesn’t understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low

    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid. You always seem to forget in your fantasy world people are free to refuse to buy this wonderful policy that only pays out when your medical bills reach 50,000 or so (given the knock-downs the insurance companies take) in a given year. What typical 18 year old is going to buy it?
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  163. MarkinLA says:
    @MarkinLA
    From the guy who seems to get everything he knows off of TV, I don’t put a lot of stock in your ability to understand economics,

    This from the guy who thinks 18 year olds barely making the rent and car payments are going to voluntarily buy very high deductable health insurance because some libertarian phantasy land fool said so.

    Do you really think "winning" the Cold War was worth the trillions we spent and the hundreds of thousands of dead or destroyed American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese). The USSR imploded on it's own and had little to do with Reagan, JFK, LBJ and all the rest.

    A libertarian talking about ignorance and stupidity. I guess when you are an expert, it kind of makes sense.

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  164. MarkinLA says:
    @J.Ross
    And his fear of Communism would appear to have been vindicated by subsequent events, notably in Venezuela.

    Ask the families and friends of the names on the Vietnam memorial if it was all worth it.

    Yeah, Vietnam and Venezuela were just about to invade the US when we preemptively attacked them. We need to fight them over there or we will fight them over hear. It is amazing there are still people who believe this nonsense.

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    Yeah, we have attacked an extraordinary variety of places lately, but Venezuela is not one of them. It was the crown jewel of South America before the Commie Chavez took over.

    Vietnam was damn complicated as the original war was to shake off the control of the colonial French before and after WWII (not to mention the Japanese until the end of the Pacific war). Ho Chi Minh did not have to be a Commie - it was not "in him" originally versus a Mao or Lenin. The whole thing was handled wrong in so many ways, and there is a great big thick picture book on it that I'm just getting into.

    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore, at least in the big ones (Soviet Russia, Red China, East Bloc)? The Venezuelans are trying, but it's hard to do much once you're down to eating rats.

    Your knowledge of history must have been gained from skimming a coupla hundred tweets. Do they have Cliff Notes on tweets, cause maybe that'll help you.
    , @J.Ross
    Why is it that only American soldiers need to have their every doubt explored?
    Have you talked to or read any Russians who fought Hitler and then discovered mixed feelings? There is one you might check out, his name is Solzhenitsyn. And Vietnam is a completely dishonest example. Your argument requires a successful case of opposing Communism. Every Nam Vet I've met was pissed at the runaway success of CultMarx, not pleading that we give mass murder a chance. The Wall was not bricked with names because of an "irrational" fear of an ideology which begins with terrorism and ends with mass murder, it's one of many testaments to LBJ's deep hatred of the United States.
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  165. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree, Mr. Anon, especially with point 3. That kind of crap is for Kings and Pharaohs and shit. As it is, there were never supposed to be anything like dynasties, as the high officials were meant to be the best of America's elite, who would "serve" in public office with the true meaning of that word - give up the more lucrative work they were doing and give up a few years to help keep the small government running. Ha!

    We've had Camelot and these dynasties now, and it's just not working out for the American people. I think we got lucky and probably got one of the better of the Kennedies, and luckily escaped any dynasty there, but then there was the Bush dynasty of fiascoes and one Clinton (whewww!) with still an existing dynastic spawn that we need to keep a close eye on.

    BTW, what is funny about the humble Jimmy Carter* compared to ole Ronnie, is that while there is Ronald Reagan National Airport right near downtown Washington, FS with as many commercial flights that can fit into that small space, we have Jimmy Carter Airport in Americus, GA (anyone outside of GA has most likely never heard of it), which is the closest thing to Plains, GA. The latter is an uncontrolled field (no tower, like 90% of the airports in the country), no airline service, and is the kind of place where one can land, and just taxi toward the trees and go take a piss, if one is in dire need.


    * I didn't like his left-wing (for the late 1970's) policies and poor leadership, but I'll give him lots of credit for this.

    Like Clement Attlee, Jimmy Carter was a modest little man with much to be modest about.

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    Haha! Well he is an honest man. You will hardly ever see that at anywhere near the level in government that he attained
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  166. MarkinLA says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Sorry dude, if you cant see the strategic value in watching the Dems self destruct over this you're not a serious person who should be discussing politics.

    Stick to sportsball.

    I have been watching since that moron Reagan gave the store away for absolutely NOTHING and know not to put too much hope on the Dems “self destructing”. Maybe you forgot how many times the Republicans managed to snatch defeat from the Democrats at the last minute. It appears you are the naïve one. Trump has already caved on some issues and got nothing. It is obvious Trump craves adulation and has little grasp of the finer points of an issue and was easily fooled by the emotional appeal to the dreamers. Instead of recognizing this you pretend that you see his masterful 12D chess in operation.

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    Ah, nothing says unhinged like amateur armchair pop psycho analysis.

    I see the opposition in disarray, Trump victorious, and eeyores braying around their ballgags. Stay mad tho.

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  167. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, and that's from the guy who doesn't understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low. Then, if said young man has to get some help with a big cut or food poisoning, he can go in and pay what it actually costs to fix him up and not pay for 2 deadbeats and 5 illegal aliens at the same time. Now that's a price break I can get behind!

    Do you really think “winning” the Cold War was worth...
     
    I don't know if is worth it, Mark, judging by some of your most ignorant comments. Had Communism taken over the world, at least I wouldn't be reading this bullshit from you.

    To a guy who wouldn't know freedom if it came up and bit him on the ass.

    Yeah, and that’s from the guy who doesn’t understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low

    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid. You always seem to forget in your fantasy world people are free to refuse to buy this wonderful policy that only pays out when your medical bills reach 50,000 or so (given the knock-downs the insurance companies take) in a given year. What typical 18 year old is going to buy it?

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    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid.
     
    The stupid is on your side, Mark in the Pacific NW. I have tried to explain this to you, but you come up with rebuttals that are completely based on the Socialism we have now. You've got to think outside the box, alright? Open your mind for a sec, OK, and let me try again.

    The guy will buy the very inexpensive policy, as, in a free market, such as that in China, NOBODY is gonna give you healthcare for free. Get that, or not? It's like that in China right now, and I already linked to my posts on it.

    It's catastrophic coverage - no, it covers nothing until a damn serious amount that one couldn't pay without a major change in the whole life plan. You don't build up medical bills to $50,000 because,

    a) You gotta pay for your service, like when you get your oil changed or get a fender pulled out.

    b) It's not a medical PLAN, it's insurance. Think cars, if you are this dense to not understand this any other way.

    c) You will not waste your own money on any medical services, like you may now. You will learn about any problems or ailments you have by reading - the www, it's called, and take care of yourself until you can't. (Think, don't bring your car into the shop for every little thing - call a mechanic friend or look at the net, and buy the small parts at NAPA. Do you change your oil every 1,000 miles, just because "that's on the plan"?)

    d) I just mentioned young people's insurance. Why would a young man (even better of an example) ring up $50,000 in bills? I went on the pay-as-you-go plan for 15 years and probably averaged about $150 a year including a pretty big wreck, which was most of it.

    A typical 18 year-old who has learned that his whole life will be ruined (or that of his family that will end up paying) if he gets seriously hurt or sick, will pay the $200 monthly, or his parents will.
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  168. @MarkinLA
    I have been watching since that moron Reagan gave the store away for absolutely NOTHING and know not to put too much hope on the Dems "self destructing". Maybe you forgot how many times the Republicans managed to snatch defeat from the Democrats at the last minute. It appears you are the naïve one. Trump has already caved on some issues and got nothing. It is obvious Trump craves adulation and has little grasp of the finer points of an issue and was easily fooled by the emotional appeal to the dreamers. Instead of recognizing this you pretend that you see his masterful 12D chess in operation.

    Ah, nothing says unhinged like amateur armchair pop psycho analysis.

    I see the opposition in disarray, Trump victorious, and eeyores braying around their ballgags. Stay mad tho.

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  169. Brutusale says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.
     
    After Trump was elected by, inter alia, rightfully pointing out that the Media has become a left wing political operation, the NYT and WaPo and others re-branded themselves as the political opposition under a thin veil of being the watchdogs of democracy - see, e.g, "Democracy Dies in Darkness." Left wing types subscribed in record numbers in order to support the political opposition to Trump masquerading as non-partisan Media outlets.

    “In 2016 the average paid and verified weekday circulation of the New York Times stood at 571.5 thousand copies, a decrease from over 1.92 million copies in 2013.”–Statista

    Check out the cheap subscription prices.

    https://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp8U939.html

    Let’s just say the revenue from today’s delivered/digital subscriptions is a far cry from 20 years ago when I was paying $40/month for the Boston Globe.

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  170. @MarkinLA
    Yeah, and that’s from the guy who doesn’t understand free markets enough to see how cheap a simple catastrophic-coverage-only plan can be for an 18-y/o whose chances of getting a serious illness are extremely low

    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid. You always seem to forget in your fantasy world people are free to refuse to buy this wonderful policy that only pays out when your medical bills reach 50,000 or so (given the knock-downs the insurance companies take) in a given year. What typical 18 year old is going to buy it?

    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid.

    The stupid is on your side, Mark in the Pacific NW. I have tried to explain this to you, but you come up with rebuttals that are completely based on the Socialism we have now. You’ve got to think outside the box, alright? Open your mind for a sec, OK, and let me try again.

    The guy will buy the very inexpensive policy, as, in a free market, such as that in China, NOBODY is gonna give you healthcare for free. Get that, or not? It’s like that in China right now, and I already linked to my posts on it.

    It’s catastrophic coverage – no, it covers nothing until a damn serious amount that one couldn’t pay without a major change in the whole life plan. You don’t build up medical bills to $50,000 because,

    a) You gotta pay for your service, like when you get your oil changed or get a fender pulled out.

    b) It’s not a medical PLAN, it’s insurance. Think cars, if you are this dense to not understand this any other way.

    c) You will not waste your own money on any medical services, like you may now. You will learn about any problems or ailments you have by reading – the www, it’s called, and take care of yourself until you can’t. (Think, don’t bring your car into the shop for every little thing – call a mechanic friend or look at the net, and buy the small parts at NAPA. Do you change your oil every 1,000 miles, just because “that’s on the plan”?)

    d) I just mentioned young people’s insurance. Why would a young man (even better of an example) ring up $50,000 in bills? I went on the pay-as-you-go plan for 15 years and probably averaged about $150 a year including a pretty big wreck, which was most of it.

    A typical 18 year-old who has learned that his whole life will be ruined (or that of his family that will end up paying) if he gets seriously hurt or sick, will pay the $200 monthly, or his parents will.

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    You must not have been to a hospital lately. I spent two days in the cardiac ward due to an adverse reaction to a blood pressure medication prescribed by a doctor when things went haywire due to the policies of the hospital (they didn't have the medication I normally use in their formulary). The bill was 46,000 dollars knocked down to 8000 by the Obamacare policy. According to the insurance company they only count what was paid - not what was billed so according to them I just barely met my yearly deductible.

    I could have been sued for the whole 46,000 if I didn't have insurance. What 18 year old barely making the rent is going to pay anything for insurance knowing he will likely never see them pay a nickel? It makes more sense for him to keep his money in his pocket and file for bankruptcy when the bills come due. Unless you are going to turn people away at the Emergency Room door, your libertarian fantasies will never come to be.
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  171. @PV van der Byl
    Like Clement Attlee, Jimmy Carter was a modest little man with much to be modest about.

    Haha! Well he is an honest man. You will hardly ever see that at anywhere near the level in government that he attained

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  172. @MarkinLA
    Ask the families and friends of the names on the Vietnam memorial if it was all worth it.

    Yeah, Vietnam and Venezuela were just about to invade the US when we preemptively attacked them. We need to fight them over there or we will fight them over hear. It is amazing there are still people who believe this nonsense.

    Yeah, we have attacked an extraordinary variety of places lately, but Venezuela is not one of them. It was the crown jewel of South America before the Commie Chavez took over.

    Vietnam was damn complicated as the original war was to shake off the control of the colonial French before and after WWII (not to mention the Japanese until the end of the Pacific war). Ho Chi Minh did not have to be a Commie – it was not “in him” originally versus a Mao or Lenin. The whole thing was handled wrong in so many ways, and there is a great big thick picture book on it that I’m just getting into.

    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore, at least in the big ones (Soviet Russia, Red China, East Bloc)? The Venezuelans are trying, but it’s hard to do much once you’re down to eating rats.

    Your knowledge of history must have been gained from skimming a coupla hundred tweets. Do they have Cliff Notes on tweets, cause maybe that’ll help you.

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    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore,

    I guess that whole Warsaw Pact breakup and USSR dissolution thingy never happened.
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    @MarkinLA
    Ask the families and friends of the names on the Vietnam memorial if it was all worth it.

    Yeah, Vietnam and Venezuela were just about to invade the US when we preemptively attacked them. We need to fight them over there or we will fight them over hear. It is amazing there are still people who believe this nonsense.

    Why is it that only American soldiers need to have their every doubt explored?
    Have you talked to or read any Russians who fought Hitler and then discovered mixed feelings? There is one you might check out, his name is Solzhenitsyn. And Vietnam is a completely dishonest example. Your argument requires a successful case of opposing Communism. Every Nam Vet I’ve met was pissed at the runaway success of CultMarx, not pleading that we give mass murder a chance. The Wall was not bricked with names because of an “irrational” fear of an ideology which begins with terrorism and ends with mass murder, it’s one of many testaments to LBJ’s deep hatred of the United States.

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    The Russian soldier had no choice. WWII was a fight for the very existence of the Slavic people in Russia. The US was never threatened by Vietnam and only in the wildest Red Menace hallucinations would ever be.

    Apples and Oranges.
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  174. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You have been posting this nonsense forever, as though repeating something stupid a million times makes it less stupid.
     
    The stupid is on your side, Mark in the Pacific NW. I have tried to explain this to you, but you come up with rebuttals that are completely based on the Socialism we have now. You've got to think outside the box, alright? Open your mind for a sec, OK, and let me try again.

    The guy will buy the very inexpensive policy, as, in a free market, such as that in China, NOBODY is gonna give you healthcare for free. Get that, or not? It's like that in China right now, and I already linked to my posts on it.

    It's catastrophic coverage - no, it covers nothing until a damn serious amount that one couldn't pay without a major change in the whole life plan. You don't build up medical bills to $50,000 because,

    a) You gotta pay for your service, like when you get your oil changed or get a fender pulled out.

    b) It's not a medical PLAN, it's insurance. Think cars, if you are this dense to not understand this any other way.

    c) You will not waste your own money on any medical services, like you may now. You will learn about any problems or ailments you have by reading - the www, it's called, and take care of yourself until you can't. (Think, don't bring your car into the shop for every little thing - call a mechanic friend or look at the net, and buy the small parts at NAPA. Do you change your oil every 1,000 miles, just because "that's on the plan"?)

    d) I just mentioned young people's insurance. Why would a young man (even better of an example) ring up $50,000 in bills? I went on the pay-as-you-go plan for 15 years and probably averaged about $150 a year including a pretty big wreck, which was most of it.

    A typical 18 year-old who has learned that his whole life will be ruined (or that of his family that will end up paying) if he gets seriously hurt or sick, will pay the $200 monthly, or his parents will.

    You must not have been to a hospital lately. I spent two days in the cardiac ward due to an adverse reaction to a blood pressure medication prescribed by a doctor when things went haywire due to the policies of the hospital (they didn’t have the medication I normally use in their formulary). The bill was 46,000 dollars knocked down to 8000 by the Obamacare policy. According to the insurance company they only count what was paid – not what was billed so according to them I just barely met my yearly deductible.

    I could have been sued for the whole 46,000 if I didn’t have insurance. What 18 year old barely making the rent is going to pay anything for insurance knowing he will likely never see them pay a nickel? It makes more sense for him to keep his money in his pocket and file for bankruptcy when the bills come due. Unless you are going to turn people away at the Emergency Room door, your libertarian fantasies will never come to be.

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    You are really not getting this, and it's amazing because you are clued-in pretty good on the immigration stuff and current national politics regarding that.

    Lookey here - I've been through all that - paid my own way on some big bills for the family Yes, it's a complete rip-off and oftentimes you've got to go almost to the bill collectors before they will do some dealing, or else pay $1 monthly for life (they can't take any legal action then, I'm told, which is also pretty stupid)

    Here's the question: Do you, Mark in PNW, think that the $8,000, much less the $46,000 is actually what it cost to treat you? If you know anything about the health care business, you would know the answer is NO. You're paying for all the tremendous bureaucracy of the system that you think is "the best, Jerry!" You are mad about the present system, yet think somehow all these problems are inherent in health care? WTF?

    Yes, people have got to be turned away at the Emergency door, unless they've got it covered: Money, insurance, or their a real civil legal system that will allow collection in the long run. You turn them away or divert them to a charity hospital, where people who feel bad for these particular people (hint - probably not illegal aliens) will pay to help them, and even volunteer. Charity works pretty well when it's real, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    If you keep this nonsense up, I'm gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read. There's nothing worse than a lazy Socialist ... except for a Socialist hard at work.
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  175. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, we have attacked an extraordinary variety of places lately, but Venezuela is not one of them. It was the crown jewel of South America before the Commie Chavez took over.

    Vietnam was damn complicated as the original war was to shake off the control of the colonial French before and after WWII (not to mention the Japanese until the end of the Pacific war). Ho Chi Minh did not have to be a Commie - it was not "in him" originally versus a Mao or Lenin. The whole thing was handled wrong in so many ways, and there is a great big thick picture book on it that I'm just getting into.

    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore, at least in the big ones (Soviet Russia, Red China, East Bloc)? The Venezuelans are trying, but it's hard to do much once you're down to eating rats.

    Your knowledge of history must have been gained from skimming a coupla hundred tweets. Do they have Cliff Notes on tweets, cause maybe that'll help you.

    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore,

    I guess that whole Warsaw Pact breakup and USSR dissolution thingy never happened.

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    I feel like I'm 0n some kind of Merry-Go-Round-0f-Stupidity with you, Mark. Yes, that breakup happened due to the work of millions of American (and W. Euro) soldier, sailers, airmen, and engineers, led by Ronald Reagan at the end of it. I just wrote that earlier today. You won't have a chance to fight within the system when it gets locked up tight - USSR for 7 decades, Red China for ~ 4, depending on whom you ask, N. Korea, the Eastern bloc (brave Hungarians tried it; then the tanks rolled in).

    Without outside influence, that breakup would not have happened probably in our lifetimes even.

    Man, it's that time of the century when times are getting worse, the young people know nothing, they are ready for any stupid thing, and that's when the Commies come crawling out of the woodwork.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Oh, I forgot to give credit where more credit is due: West Germany's Konrad Adenauer, and (well, I can't expect the young people to know this) not all Popes have been Communists* over the history of Catholicism, so there was Pope John Paul II(?) who, as Pole, along with Pole LechWalesa of the "Solidarity" union all were part of the containment and defeat of Soviet Communism.
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  176. MarkinLA says:
    @J.Ross
    Why is it that only American soldiers need to have their every doubt explored?
    Have you talked to or read any Russians who fought Hitler and then discovered mixed feelings? There is one you might check out, his name is Solzhenitsyn. And Vietnam is a completely dishonest example. Your argument requires a successful case of opposing Communism. Every Nam Vet I've met was pissed at the runaway success of CultMarx, not pleading that we give mass murder a chance. The Wall was not bricked with names because of an "irrational" fear of an ideology which begins with terrorism and ends with mass murder, it's one of many testaments to LBJ's deep hatred of the United States.

    The Russian soldier had no choice. WWII was a fight for the very existence of the Slavic people in Russia. The US was never threatened by Vietnam and only in the wildest Red Menace hallucinations would ever be.

    Apples and Oranges.

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    Same in Afghanistan, circa 1979, Mark? Apples and apples.
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  177. @MarkinLA
    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore,

    I guess that whole Warsaw Pact breakup and USSR dissolution thingy never happened.

    I feel like I’m 0n some kind of Merry-Go-Round-0f-Stupidity with you, Mark. Yes, that breakup happened due to the work of millions of American (and W. Euro) soldier, sailers, airmen, and engineers, led by Ronald Reagan at the end of it. I just wrote that earlier today. You won’t have a chance to fight within the system when it gets locked up tight – USSR for 7 decades, Red China for ~ 4, depending on whom you ask, N. Korea, the Eastern bloc (brave Hungarians tried it; then the tanks rolled in).

    Without outside influence, that breakup would not have happened probably in our lifetimes even.

    Man, it’s that time of the century when times are getting worse, the young people know nothing, they are ready for any stupid thing, and that’s when the Commies come crawling out of the woodwork.

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    You are on a merry-go-round of stupidity because you have a lifetime pass on the stupidity ride.

    You really are a fool if you think the breakup of the USSR was because of the US. I realize that people who were drafted during the Cold War have to think they made some kind of difference and taking away part of their youth served some higher purpose but it was a waste. Why is it we are told on one hand communism won't work and is doomed to fail but we had to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to stop something that would have supposedly collapsed on its own? I hope even you can see this doesn't compute.

    If Gorbachev had ordered Soviet tanks into Poland or Russia to crush the rebellions, crushed they would have been. If the US collapses into a shit-hole it will be because of internal problems and nothing done by China or Russia.

    It is amazing how stupid Americans can be, believing that everything that happens in the world is because of something WE did.
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  178. @MarkinLA
    The Russian soldier had no choice. WWII was a fight for the very existence of the Slavic people in Russia. The US was never threatened by Vietnam and only in the wildest Red Menace hallucinations would ever be.

    Apples and Oranges.

    Same in Afghanistan, circa 1979, Mark? Apples and apples.

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    Afghanistan gave us radical Islam as a trade for a European Christian county that we had more in common with. Who killed more Americans? Sounds like a big win, doesn't it?
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  179. @MarkinLA
    Do you understand that once living under the Communists, you would no longer have any chance to fight time anymore,

    I guess that whole Warsaw Pact breakup and USSR dissolution thingy never happened.

    Oh, I forgot to give credit where more credit is due: West Germany’s Konrad Adenauer, and (well, I can’t expect the young people to know this) not all Popes have been Communists* over the history of Catholicism, so there was Pope John Paul II(?) who, as Pole, along with Pole LechWalesa of the “Solidarity” union all were part of the containment and defeat of Soviet Communism.

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  180. @MarkinLA
    You must not have been to a hospital lately. I spent two days in the cardiac ward due to an adverse reaction to a blood pressure medication prescribed by a doctor when things went haywire due to the policies of the hospital (they didn't have the medication I normally use in their formulary). The bill was 46,000 dollars knocked down to 8000 by the Obamacare policy. According to the insurance company they only count what was paid - not what was billed so according to them I just barely met my yearly deductible.

    I could have been sued for the whole 46,000 if I didn't have insurance. What 18 year old barely making the rent is going to pay anything for insurance knowing he will likely never see them pay a nickel? It makes more sense for him to keep his money in his pocket and file for bankruptcy when the bills come due. Unless you are going to turn people away at the Emergency Room door, your libertarian fantasies will never come to be.

    You are really not getting this, and it’s amazing because you are clued-in pretty good on the immigration stuff and current national politics regarding that.

    Lookey here – I’ve been through all that – paid my own way on some big bills for the family Yes, it’s a complete rip-off and oftentimes you’ve got to go almost to the bill collectors before they will do some dealing, or else pay $1 monthly for life (they can’t take any legal action then, I’m told, which is also pretty stupid)

    Here’s the question: Do you, Mark in PNW, think that the $8,000, much less the $46,000 is actually what it cost to treat you? If you know anything about the health care business, you would know the answer is NO. You’re paying for all the tremendous bureaucracy of the system that you think is “the best, Jerry!” You are mad about the present system, yet think somehow all these problems are inherent in health care? WTF?

    Yes, people have got to be turned away at the Emergency door, unless they’ve got it covered: Money, insurance, or their a real civil legal system that will allow collection in the long run. You turn them away or divert them to a charity hospital, where people who feel bad for these particular people (hint – probably not illegal aliens) will pay to help them, and even volunteer. Charity works pretty well when it’s real, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    If you keep this nonsense up, I’m gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read. There’s nothing worse than a lazy Socialist … except for a Socialist hard at work.

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    If you keep this nonsense up, I’m gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read.

    It doesn't matter how many times you post stupid nonsense. It will still be stupid. There is no way people will be turned away from emergency rooms or denied needed care. Forget your stupid libertarian fantasy world, nobody with a brain wants it.
    , @Anonymous
    You're absolutely right: the way it works now is that we give top-flight care to immigrants and others who pay absolutely nothing for it, while (in particular) those of us in the individual market pay through the nose for the privilege of standing in line, way behind those mentioned above.

    I've the feeling some people haven't visited urban (or even suburban!) ERs in the past few decades.

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  181. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I feel like I'm 0n some kind of Merry-Go-Round-0f-Stupidity with you, Mark. Yes, that breakup happened due to the work of millions of American (and W. Euro) soldier, sailers, airmen, and engineers, led by Ronald Reagan at the end of it. I just wrote that earlier today. You won't have a chance to fight within the system when it gets locked up tight - USSR for 7 decades, Red China for ~ 4, depending on whom you ask, N. Korea, the Eastern bloc (brave Hungarians tried it; then the tanks rolled in).

    Without outside influence, that breakup would not have happened probably in our lifetimes even.

    Man, it's that time of the century when times are getting worse, the young people know nothing, they are ready for any stupid thing, and that's when the Commies come crawling out of the woodwork.

    You are on a merry-go-round of stupidity because you have a lifetime pass on the stupidity ride.

    You really are a fool if you think the breakup of the USSR was because of the US. I realize that people who were drafted during the Cold War have to think they made some kind of difference and taking away part of their youth served some higher purpose but it was a waste. Why is it we are told on one hand communism won’t work and is doomed to fail but we had to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to stop something that would have supposedly collapsed on its own? I hope even you can see this doesn’t compute.

    If Gorbachev had ordered Soviet tanks into Poland or Russia to crush the rebellions, crushed they would have been. If the US collapses into a shit-hole it will be because of internal problems and nothing done by China or Russia.

    It is amazing how stupid Americans can be, believing that everything that happens in the world is because of something WE did.

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    Why is it we are told on one hand communism won’t work and is doomed to fail but we had to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to stop something that would have supposedly collapsed on its own? I hope even you can see this doesn’t compute.
     
    Communism is doomed to fail economically, but that doesn't mean the political system and the tyranny won't still be in place. How's it going in Venezuela right now? If it weren't for the outside world, the Communist areas of the world would have remained shitholes, perhaps better than Haiti by a small amount economically, but with the police state in place to make it even more miserable. If those outside areas had turned Commie, then the whole world would have been one big shithole. A shithole can go along for a long, long time, Mark. Look at Haiti - even WITH lots of attempts at external help, it has been for over 200 years!

    That's the way things are going here in the Western world, because we have not fought the internal enemy. Americans, especially, dropped the ball on that and let the cntrl-left take over the institutions with Commie backing and "inspiration". You should see some videos of Yuri Bezmenov from the 1980's or so - This one starts with Alex Jones and some guy talking about feminism, for just a coupla minutes, but then Mr. Bezmenov speaks.


    If the US collapses into a shit-hole it will be because of internal problems and nothing done by China or Russia.
     
    Yes, that is correct. The enemies have been internal for 50 years or more, even as the big external enemies have been diminished greatly for the last 30.

    I guess if you think living in a Communist totalitarian society is your cup of tea, sure, the lives of the military men and the men who made the weapons that defeated the USSR in peacetime, were wasted. We should have just bent over, took it in the ass, and thought of Oceana.

    Some of us won't get fooled again!

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  182. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Same in Afghanistan, circa 1979, Mark? Apples and apples.

    Afghanistan gave us radical Islam as a trade for a European Christian county that we had more in common with. Who killed more Americans? Sounds like a big win, doesn’t it?

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    The Russian soldier had no choice. WWII was a fight for the very existence of the Slavic people in Russia. The US was never threatened by Vietnam and only in the wildest Red Menace hallucinations would ever be.
     

    Same in Afghanistan, circa 1979, Mark? Apples and apples.
     

    Afghanistan gave us radical Islam as a trade for a European Christian county that we had more in common with. Who killed more Americans? Sounds like a big win, doesn’t it?
     
    Afghanistan never threatened the existence of the USSR either. That's what I meant by apples to apples.

    Yes, we let the Russians have their Vietnam in Afghanistan via Charlie Wilson and his boys sending in the latest weapons, including the Stingers that can take out attack helicopters (well, any helicopters). It was very much like the Soviets and Chinese supporting Ho Chi Minh's NVA. Apples to apples.

    Now, with regard to that, I do agree that we'd have been better off letting the Afghans just take a beating, with the fore-knowledge that The USSR would end. We didn't know that 10 years earlier, Mark, and with Jimmy Carter and the detente guys and the folk singers telling us we should unilaterally disarm, it didn't look ever possible in 1979.

    You've got pretty good hindsight, Mark ... excellent ocular clarity!
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  183. MarkinLA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    You are really not getting this, and it's amazing because you are clued-in pretty good on the immigration stuff and current national politics regarding that.

    Lookey here - I've been through all that - paid my own way on some big bills for the family Yes, it's a complete rip-off and oftentimes you've got to go almost to the bill collectors before they will do some dealing, or else pay $1 monthly for life (they can't take any legal action then, I'm told, which is also pretty stupid)

    Here's the question: Do you, Mark in PNW, think that the $8,000, much less the $46,000 is actually what it cost to treat you? If you know anything about the health care business, you would know the answer is NO. You're paying for all the tremendous bureaucracy of the system that you think is "the best, Jerry!" You are mad about the present system, yet think somehow all these problems are inherent in health care? WTF?

    Yes, people have got to be turned away at the Emergency door, unless they've got it covered: Money, insurance, or their a real civil legal system that will allow collection in the long run. You turn them away or divert them to a charity hospital, where people who feel bad for these particular people (hint - probably not illegal aliens) will pay to help them, and even volunteer. Charity works pretty well when it's real, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    If you keep this nonsense up, I'm gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read. There's nothing worse than a lazy Socialist ... except for a Socialist hard at work.

    If you keep this nonsense up, I’m gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read.

    It doesn’t matter how many times you post stupid nonsense. It will still be stupid. There is no way people will be turned away from emergency rooms or denied needed care. Forget your stupid libertarian fantasy world, nobody with a brain wants it.

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    I've got one word for you, Mark: CHINA

    Healthcare in China:

    Part 1

    Part 2

    Part 3

    Part 4
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  184. @Intelligent Dasein

    Because what I see is a man who blew out the two leading political dynasties on his first serious go round and is currently talking the Democrats into lighting themselves on fire VERSUS an anonymous commenter with an oversized and unwarranted sense of self importance.
     
    Been looking in the mirror, then, Simple Jack?

    You seem to be forgetting that Trump had to be elected, he couldn't just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place. And we're the ones who elected him. If you want to see the score sheet, look at the man in the Oval Office. He's our freaking score sheet. Against overwhelming odds, against treachery by our own party, against a universally hostile media, against what we now know to be a criminal conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, and the FBI to keep him out of office, we pushed him over the finish line.

    And it is now up to us to keep him in line, to keep him fighting for the right policies, because there's no end to the number of other factions who will seek to influence him for their own ends. Those whom you pathetically refer to as Eeyores are a critical part of the political process. They make noises when Trump goes off the leash. People like Tucker and Laura and Queen Ann (who actually read our comments) proceed to talk, tweet, and report about it. Pressure filters up to the Trump Administration, and hopefully the Leftward drift is abated.

    For the example, the "shithole" comment, whether Trump actually said it or not, was nothing less than a miracle, a last-minute stick-save preventing something that would have been the end of both Trump's presidency and the country. We may have been just hours away from a DACA amnesty which Trump had every intention of signing. Alternatively, the comment itself would have been politically ruinous for any prior Republican president. But we now have significant voices throughout the country who have spent years informing others about the demographic reality, and that was enough to cause a significant plurality of the body politic to spring to Trump's defense. Without that preparation and tactical maneuvering, all would have been lost.

    So what about your score sheet, Simple Jack? You've spent the entire time slobbering over everything Trump has done, whether it was right or not. You defended the cruise missile attack on Syria, which was a murderous and criminal act of terrorism on Trump's part. What are your thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the decertification of the Iran deal, the continued presence of US troops in Syria, the escalation of rhetoric with North Korea, the $100 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Is Trump blameless in all those, too? Are there always extenuating circumstances? 4d chess?

    And yes, just so you know, Trump has been rolled by tough operators since assuming office, just as nebulafox said. Xi Jinping made chop suey out of Trump's vaunted negotiation skills at Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un just won a major geopolitical victory against him. I am not disturbed by this, because in each case I believed the policies that Trump was pursuing to be wrong anyway. It is no great sorrow to lose when victory would have made things worse, but that does not mean that Trump didn't get outplayed.

    Your shtick is weak and tiresome. You better take that trash back to Breitbart where it will be appreciated. Don't bring it around here.

    he couldn’t just ride into Washington on his 737 and take over the place

    Trump’s plane is a 757.

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  185. @MarkinLA
    You are on a merry-go-round of stupidity because you have a lifetime pass on the stupidity ride.

    You really are a fool if you think the breakup of the USSR was because of the US. I realize that people who were drafted during the Cold War have to think they made some kind of difference and taking away part of their youth served some higher purpose but it was a waste. Why is it we are told on one hand communism won't work and is doomed to fail but we had to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to stop something that would have supposedly collapsed on its own? I hope even you can see this doesn't compute.

    If Gorbachev had ordered Soviet tanks into Poland or Russia to crush the rebellions, crushed they would have been. If the US collapses into a shit-hole it will be because of internal problems and nothing done by China or Russia.

    It is amazing how stupid Americans can be, believing that everything that happens in the world is because of something WE did.

    Why is it we are told on one hand communism won’t work and is doomed to fail but we had to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to stop something that would have supposedly collapsed on its own? I hope even you can see this doesn’t compute.

    Communism is doomed to fail economically, but that doesn’t mean the political system and the tyranny won’t still be in place. How’s it going in Venezuela right now? If it weren’t for the outside world, the Communist areas of the world would have remained shitholes, perhaps better than Haiti by a small amount economically, but with the police state in place to make it even more miserable. If those outside areas had turned Commie, then the whole world would have been one big shithole. A shithole can go along for a long, long time, Mark. Look at Haiti – even WITH lots of attempts at external help, it has been for over 200 years!

    That’s the way things are going here in the Western world, because we have not fought the internal enemy. Americans, especially, dropped the ball on that and let the cntrl-left take over the institutions with Commie backing and “inspiration”. You should see some videos of Yuri Bezmenov from the 1980′s or so – This one starts with Alex Jones and some guy talking about feminism, for just a coupla minutes, but then Mr. Bezmenov speaks.

    If the US collapses into a shit-hole it will be because of internal problems and nothing done by China or Russia.

    Yes, that is correct. The enemies have been internal for 50 years or more, even as the big external enemies have been diminished greatly for the last 30.

    I guess if you think living in a Communist totalitarian society is your cup of tea, sure, the lives of the military men and the men who made the weapons that defeated the USSR in peacetime, were wasted. We should have just bent over, took it in the ass, and thought of Oceana.

    Some of us won’t get fooled again!

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  186. @MarkinLA
    If you keep this nonsense up, I’m gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read.

    It doesn't matter how many times you post stupid nonsense. It will still be stupid. There is no way people will be turned away from emergency rooms or denied needed care. Forget your stupid libertarian fantasy world, nobody with a brain wants it.

    I’ve got one word for you, Mark: CHINA

    Healthcare in China:

    Part 1

    Part 2

    Part 3

    Part 4

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  187. @MarkinLA
    Afghanistan gave us radical Islam as a trade for a European Christian county that we had more in common with. Who killed more Americans? Sounds like a big win, doesn't it?

    The Russian soldier had no choice. WWII was a fight for the very existence of the Slavic people in Russia. The US was never threatened by Vietnam and only in the wildest Red Menace hallucinations would ever be.

    Same in Afghanistan, circa 1979, Mark? Apples and apples.

    Afghanistan gave us radical Islam as a trade for a European Christian county that we had more in common with. Who killed more Americans? Sounds like a big win, doesn’t it?

    Afghanistan never threatened the existence of the USSR either. That’s what I meant by apples to apples.

    Yes, we let the Russians have their Vietnam in Afghanistan via Charlie Wilson and his boys sending in the latest weapons, including the Stingers that can take out attack helicopters (well, any helicopters). It was very much like the Soviets and Chinese supporting Ho Chi Minh’s NVA. Apples to apples.

    Now, with regard to that, I do agree that we’d have been better off letting the Afghans just take a beating, with the fore-knowledge that The USSR would end. We didn’t know that 10 years earlier, Mark, and with Jimmy Carter and the detente guys and the folk singers telling us we should unilaterally disarm, it didn’t look ever possible in 1979.

    You’ve got pretty good hindsight, Mark … excellent ocular clarity!

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  188. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Really? How does that work, exactly? Those two newspapers have actually become mostly irrelevant now that print ad revenue is drying up and they are trying to hold on with paywalls on their websites. Both papers rely on the internet commentary sites reposting their bullshit for discussion.
     
    After Trump was elected by, inter alia, rightfully pointing out that the Media has become a left wing political operation, the NYT and WaPo and others re-branded themselves as the political opposition under a thin veil of being the watchdogs of democracy - see, e.g, "Democracy Dies in Darkness." Left wing types subscribed in record numbers in order to support the political opposition to Trump masquerading as non-partisan Media outlets.

    I suppose that’s possible, not having seen their subscription figures. Maybe I give undue credit to the public at large by assuming that anyone could see what nonsense the typical Times/Post article is. Maybe, also, I’m lulling myself with the thought that the MSM has revealed themselves as a gaggle of ninnies who can’t even tell a decent lie.

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  189. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    A) Yes, I didn't say Reagan appointed Mr. Volcker. Getting inflation under control, with the resulting normal free-market interest rates, did the trick, which leads to,

    B) I did not give credit to President Reagan for the better economic times in the mid-later-1980's,

    C) I just got done writing this to Mark - Reagan mistakenly trusted the untrustworthy members of congress and the senate. The military build-up that helped greatly to end the Cold War was supposed to be balanced by cuts in domestic spending. The D's reneged completely on that deal.

    Overall, I don't credit or debit the President, whomever it may be, very much with how the economy does. Of course, he can veto or sign bills, and he has the "bully pulpit", but it's the Congress that spends the money.

    Sorry I’m so late. Just saying yours is a good & thoughtful response.

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  190. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    You are really not getting this, and it's amazing because you are clued-in pretty good on the immigration stuff and current national politics regarding that.

    Lookey here - I've been through all that - paid my own way on some big bills for the family Yes, it's a complete rip-off and oftentimes you've got to go almost to the bill collectors before they will do some dealing, or else pay $1 monthly for life (they can't take any legal action then, I'm told, which is also pretty stupid)

    Here's the question: Do you, Mark in PNW, think that the $8,000, much less the $46,000 is actually what it cost to treat you? If you know anything about the health care business, you would know the answer is NO. You're paying for all the tremendous bureaucracy of the system that you think is "the best, Jerry!" You are mad about the present system, yet think somehow all these problems are inherent in health care? WTF?

    Yes, people have got to be turned away at the Emergency door, unless they've got it covered: Money, insurance, or their a real civil legal system that will allow collection in the long run. You turn them away or divert them to a charity hospital, where people who feel bad for these particular people (hint - probably not illegal aliens) will pay to help them, and even volunteer. Charity works pretty well when it's real, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    If you keep this nonsense up, I'm gonna go find my old comments from months ago to you, and paste them in. This is ridiculous. You have forgotten or never read what I wrote before, so I want to quit wasting time with socialists that are too lazy to read. There's nothing worse than a lazy Socialist ... except for a Socialist hard at work.

    You’re absolutely right: the way it works now is that we give top-flight care to immigrants and others who pay absolutely nothing for it, while (in particular) those of us in the individual market pay through the nose for the privilege of standing in line, way behind those mentioned above.

    I’ve the feeling some people haven’t visited urban (or even suburban!) ERs in the past few decades.

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The unspoken statistical reality of urban crime over the last quarter century.The unspoken statistical reality of urban crime over the last quarter century.
The major media overlooked Communist spies and Madoff’s fraud. What are they missing today?The major media overlooked Communist spies and Madoff’s fraud. What are they missing today?
What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?