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Here’s a truly wonderful New York Times oped, Coalition of the Fringes division, about how, while in America the natural order prevails in which transgender ex-men are rightly recognized as just plain all around more worthy than lesbians, in Britain’s Progressive Stack, perversely, lesbians are seen as more female than real women like Caitlyn Jenner. The author doesn’t quite get around to calling for the US Strategic Air Command to shoot cruise missiles at lesbian intellectual strongholds in Bloomsbury, but maybe next week …

It reads like Godfrey Elfwick and Titania McGrath teamed up to hoax the Times by illustrating my point that the Coalition of the Margins don’t necessarily get along with each other, but I think it’s sincere. Or maybe not … Who can tell these days?

How British Feminism Became Anti-Trans
A surprisingly mainstream movement of feminists known as TERFs oppose transgender rights as a symptom of “female erasure.”

By Sophie Lewis, Feb. 7, 2019

Sophie Lewis, a feminist theorist and geographer, is the author of the forthcoming “Full Surrogacy Now.”

I presume there’s a lot to unpack in that short sentence, but I’ll leave it for somebody else to do.

… If the idea that transphobic harassment could be “feminist” bewilders you, you are not alone. In the United States, my adoptive home, the most visible contemporary opponents of transgender rights are right-wing evangelicals, who have little good to say about feminism. In Britain, where I used to live, the situation is different.

There, the most vocal trans-exclusionary voices are, ostensibly, “feminist” ones, and anti-trans lobbying is a mainstream activity. …

The term coined to identify women like Ms. Parker and Dr. Long is TERF, which stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. In Britain, TERFs are a powerful force. If, in the United States, the mainstream media has been alarmingly ready to hear “both sides” on the question of trans people’s right to exist, in Britain, TERFs have effectively succeeded in framing the question of trans rights entirely around their own concerns: that is, how these rights for others could contribute to “female erasure.” Many prominent figures in British journalism and politics have been TERFs; British TV has made a sport of endlessly hosting their lurid rudeness and styling it as courage; British newspapers seemingly never tire of broadsides against the menace of “gender ideology.” …

The split between the American and British center-left on this issue was thrown into sharp relief last year, when The Guardian published an editorial on potential changes to a law called the Gender Recognition Act, which would allow people in Britain to self-define their gender. The editorial was headlined “Where Rights Collide,” and argued that “women’s concerns about sharing dormitories or changing rooms with ‘male-bodied’ people must be taken seriously.” Some of The Guardian’s United States-based journalists published a disavowal, arguing that the editorial’s points “echo the position of anti-trans legislators who have pushed overtly transphobic bathroom bills.”

… In America, however, TERFism today is a scattered community in its death throes, mourning the loss of its last spaces, like the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival, which ended in 2015.

The Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival existed for womyn-born womyn lesbians who just wanted to sit in the dirt, swat mosquitoes, and listen to the Indigo Girls without being hit on by horny ex-men complaining about the Cotton Ceiling.

Was that too much to ask? Apparently, by the standards of Current Year America, yes.

… Such a posture positions queer theory and activism as individualistic, narcissistic and thus somehow fundamentally un-British.

It’s also worth noting that the obsession with supposed “biological realities” of people like Ms. Parker is part of a long tradition of British feminism interacting with colonialism and empire. Imperial Britain imposed policies to enforce heterosexuality and the gender binary, while simultaneously constructing the racial “other” as not only fundamentally different, but freighted with sexual menace; from there, it’s not a big leap to see sexual menace in any sort of “other,” and “biological realities” as essential and immutable. (Significantly, many Irish feminists have rejected Britain’s TERFism, citing their experience of colonialism explicitly as part of the reason.)

But perhaps the biggest factor in the rise of TERFism has been the relative dearth of social movements in Britain over the past three decades. It’s telling that Ms. Parker thinks it was the United States that exported “political correctness” and ideas like “gender identity” to Britain; it might even be fair to say that she’s right.

In other parts of the world, including America, mass movements in the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s around the effects of globalization and police brutality have produced long overdue dialogue on race, gender and class, and how they all interact. In Britain, however, the space for this sort of dialogue has been much more limited. As a result, middle- and upper-class white feminists have not received the pummeling from black and indigenous feminists that their American counterparts have, and thus, their perspectives retain a credibility and a level of influence in Britain that the Michigan Womyn’s Festival could have only dreamed of.

Women really don’t stand a chance against the obsessiveness and aggression of men. I mean, lesbians can be pretty hostile and take-no-prisoners, but outside of a few holdouts like Britain, they are being thoroughly pummeled by the hyper-aggressiveness of the ex-men, rare as they are.

Is Sophie A. Lewis for real? Here’s a 2018 blog entry for Verso Books:

Sophie Lewis
06 March 2018
6 comments

Gestators of All Genders Unite

… Say it loud: we can affirm our non-desire to work even if we don’t work hard. Even when it comes to making babies who will die if we stop working. Though much bodily reproductive work ends up not being productive for capital (in either the immediate- or long-term), we can deploy the term ‘gestational labour’ literally. The particularity is that, just as gestation’s products take a while to emerge (babies have to grow up), work stoppages in this sphere generally don’t have any immediate impact. Their blows are delayed. Omit to bathe, feed and clothe your dependents on March 8th, and cynics may well snigger: nary a capitalist seems to be quaking in her boots. Extend that strike just a few more hours, however, and workers needed for the production of profits today and in the next decade start to sicken and fade. …

Sophie Lewis is the author of Full Surrogacy Now, a book about communizing reproduction forthcoming with Verso.

 
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  1. Neoconned says:

    I worked Wendy’s a few years back…..2015 I think and there was this Latino Republican fundamentalist Christian guy. All the women hated him but once a trans customer came in and we went to discussing sharing bathrooms….

    Anyway I was shocked to see the Christian guy very calmly say he didn’t mind sharing a restroom with F2M trans “men”….meanwhile all the girls including the ones who considered me a sexist had a nervous breakdown and screamed HELL NAW when asked if they were okay with sharing a restroom w a M2F trans….they melted down calling them “freaks” and pervs and so forth.

    The hypocrisy and irony that day was not lost on me

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @S. Anonyia
  2. Asagirian says:

    If an anus can be designated as a ‘sex organ’, and if a penis and balls can become a vagina and vice versa, can we say ‘My heart is my liver, and my liver is my lung and my lung is my bung and my bung is my brains’?

  3. trelane says:

    If necessary, B-52 bombers are available to settle this.

  4. Grumpy says:

    OT:

    Speaking of “turf,” three regions outside of the Deep South are especially well represented on the USA Today list of the 50 worst cities to live in America:

    1) California’s Central Valley (including #1 worst city)
    2) Michigan
    3) The west coast of Oahu(!)

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/07/worst-cities-america-50-places-named-least-desirable-call-home/39006457/

  5. syonredux says:

    In other parts of the world, including America, mass movements in the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s around the effects of globalization and police brutality have produced long overdue dialogue on race, gender and class, and how they all interact. In Britain, however, the space for this sort of dialogue has been much more limited. As a result, middle- and upper-class white feminists have not received the pummeling from black and indigenous feminists that their American counterparts have, and thus, their perspectives retain a credibility and a level of influence in Britain that the Michigan Womyn’s Festival could have only dreamed of.

    WOKE AF. The UK needs to start importing more Black and Indigenous feminists RIGHT NOW!How else are cis-homo White “feminists” going to get the pummeling that they desperately need?

  6. On topic:

    Rep. Ilhan Omar chimes in with support for a trans powerlifter that is pure taqiyya:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-07/walter-williams-reality-optional

    I wonder who ghost wrote the letter for her. Also super-convenient the woman-beater and fellow Muslim Keith Ellison gets a copy of the letter.

    I weep for the future.

  7. Speaking of putting names to things so we can talk about them better, I think I need a name for what happens to my brain when I try to read articles like this one, especially passages such as the following:

    The movement crossed over to Britain in the 1980s, when cultural feminism was among the lesbian-separatist elements of antinuclear protest groups who saw themselves as part of a “feminist resistance” to patriarchal science, taking a stand against nuclear weapons, test-tube babies and male-to-female transsexual surgery alike.

    What the what the who now?

    As I read this kind of stuff, my poor brain, which is normally pretty good at dealing with abstractions, undergoes paroxyms as it tries to sort out and keep straight who the hell is who and believes they are what in these warring grievance-studies ghetto gangs.

    • Replies: @Mitchell Porter
  8. @syonredux

    Yes. The ‘pummeling’ part is the best!

  9. TERF warrior Jane Clare Jones fisks Sophie Lewis. Caution: salty language in spades.

    “Oh seriously, fuck off with your bullshit misogynist stereotype that mothers are required by patriarchal fiat to sit around looking ‘benign’ while doing nothing more political than mushing carrots and making cupcakes.”

    I would pay for the cage match.

    https://janeclarejones.com/2019/02/07/why-british-feminists-are-such-a-bunch-of-evil-witches/

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Reg Cæsar
  10. Tiny Duck says:

    There is “coalition of the fringes”

    We the People know the enemy and are going to fight

    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2019/02/07/davis-marks-evil-is-banal/

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  11. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Neoconned

    Firstly, of course women objected to sharing a bathroom with a man, as well they should.
    Secondly, not all irony is lost. A guy has plenty to object to, given bathroom trannies. The conventional wisdom here is illustrated by Grant Morrison’s Invisibles or Priscilla, Queen of the Desert: Eee Vull Redneck sees tranny and physically attacks because he is Eee Vull. In reality, trannies are not only fags, but from the horrifyingly powerful bottom of the hierarchy. They use the public bathroom as a bedroom and as a place to meet partners. This is the actual basis of people wanting to hit them or exclude them from bathrooms. They bother straight guys, who are just there to relieve themselves, walk out, and pretend they had washed their straight hands. In other words, like Matthew Shepard or the Marwencol guy, they are not innocent victims, but provocateurs.
    It’s similar to that “letter to the editor” thing somewhere where a nice credentialed progressive urbanite confessed that fags were porking in the sauna at his gym, and he told on them because he honestly just wanted to use the sauna he had already paid for as what it was built for. Signs banning misbehavior in saunas were briefly an issue in the NewYorkerverse, I think I saw them whined about as the new burning cross for ten seconds, but it didn’t get very far because everybody realized what it meant and had no sympathy.
    I don’t mind sharing properly utilized space with anyone, but I would have many problems getting hassled or hit on when I just wanted to relieve myself.

  12. This pseudo-academic mumbo-jumbo festival reminds me of an old high school ex, a formidably smart girl who had gone on to Re-education at Smith College (a formerly venerable institution full of extremely smart chicks) and become a radfem. I caught up with her some 20 years later by accident as she was doing a “slam-poetry” reading (lol) at my local Goodwhite bookstore. This chick could have–should have–become an attorney, doctor or CEO at the highest level; but because of feminism, had become a “nonbinary LGBTQX poet and educator” teaching Gender Studies part time at a small college and otherwise writing poetry and fuming with Salon and Jezebel in her little 1-bedroom with her 3 cats.
    Feminism stole this girl’s awesome potential and turned her into a joke.
    These TERFs and all the rest are awful, terrible, sad jokes.
    I wish Sailer would spend more of his amazing intellectual energies on real things, not the myriad stupid-shit-of-the-day coming out of the far leftist howling vaginas

  13. Lot says:

    “Imperial Britain imposed policies to enforce heterosexuality”

    When I think of Cecil Rhodes, Lord Kichener, General MacDonald, Lawrence of Arabia, and the Imperial Navy, the first thing that comes to mind is “enforced heterosexuality.”

    • LOL: Cortes
    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    , @Anon
  14. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Aren’t the TERF arguments the same as those used against acceptance of public homosexuality? It makes people feel uncomfortable and unsafe, objectified and so forth? This is the problem with the TERFs: their politics lack internal consistency unless you start from the axiom that men are evil (which is what most of them believe but can’t articulate as such).

    The left has embraced change for the sake of change and being different for the sake of being different; to first approximation, the more something would irritate or disgust Archie Bunker, the more the left will embrace it. The TERF position is a hopeless one.

  15. J.Ross says: • Website

    Maybe the “ambush””on Capitol Hill was a really delayed tit for tat (heh) following that tranny ambushing Rose McGowan.

  16. Sophie Lewis “theorizes gestation, reprotech, family abolition. Geography PhD via lit and politics.”

    I don’t know what to say. I think my five minutes are up in more ways than one.

  17. Lot says:
    • Replies: @syonredux
  18. Ender says:

    So you people and Sailer think you can draw an artificial logical wall around homosexuality and transgenderism and say that you people have no problem with homosexuals but transgenders are icky and mentally ill, and liberals will not see through your logical hypocrisy? I think that an orthodox Jew who thinks that homosexuals and transgenders are all EQUALLY sinful and should all be stoned to death is far more logically consistent than you people and Sailer (and I have been even seen liberals agreeing with this point) isn’t it funny how you can be OK with homosexuality and think that allowing gay pride parades and ending anti sodomy laws, and then get a panic attack when your toddler son wants to become a woman, that you can keep an artificial wall between homosexuality and transgenderism? Like how you people here who think you tolerate and accept one type of sexual deviance without it upgrading and leading to other types of sexual deviances being accepted and tolerated, or is this just your Boomer logic? Interestingly in Thailand, transgenders are actually somewhat tolerated to a degree, but homosexuality and bisexuality is not acceptable, sort of the inverse of the West.

  19. I’d pay $15 bucks to watch a group of each LARP it out on the streets of San Fransisco.

    Maybe they could dip their fists in glue before dipping them into bowls of broken glass like from that one movie.

  20. bucky says:

    The central irony of the trans thing is that it is likely a result of autism — an extreme male sort of mind. Meaning that you have a very male invasion of female safe spaces, which aren’t safe spaces anymore. It is just bizarre.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  21. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    Stunning and brave

    • Replies: @Svigor
  22. @Lot

    Brilliant! Break out the Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash!

    • LOL: Luke Lea
  23. @Neoconned

    Well duh. Most men are not going to be scared of a woman dressed like a man using their bathroom. They’ll just think it’s weird – she/he poses no danger to them.

    On the other hand a 6 foot tall guy with 5 o clock shadow poorly applied makeup and a dress is downright creepy entering your bathroom if you are a small female. And most “trans women” fit that description and cannot pass. They women are right they are largely perverts.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  24. Don’t worry – in a few years, Islam will sort it all out, in Britain at least.
    BTW it’s now Strategic Command – somebody let the air out awhile back.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
  25. “…not only fundamentally different, but freighted with sexual menace”

    Freighted, it’s the new fraught.

  26. The TERFs are pure second wavers; they embrace the genetic and physical reality of our female bodies, but are convinced that our brains are the same as men. Somehow it hasn’t occurred to them that our brains are subject to the same genetic and hormonal influences as the rest of the package. Second wave feminism set out to erase the patriarchy and masculinity, never dreaming that if men can be erased, so can women. Stupid.

  27. @Grumpy

    2) Michigan

    Yeah, but we try harder. And, by the way, it’s HBD Mitten. How am I going to make any money on my copyright if nobody uses the term?

  28. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Ender

    I’ll push your wall the other way: I don’t like straight people fooling around in public or effecting obscenity in front of kids. The minimum threshold for tolerating, not approving of, a fetish is that it be kept private. If it is kept private and nobody’s being hurt, what’s the problem?

    • Replies: @HA
  29. In the United States, my adoptive home, the most visible contemporary opponents of transgender rights are right-wing evangelicals, who have little good to say about feminism. In Britain, where I used to live, the situation is different.

    It’s almost as if all the evangelical fanatics who once lived in Britain had gone somewhere else to live… now where might that have been…?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  30. Anon7 says:
    @Grumpy

    Beautiful Highland Park, MI makes it to #5! Chrysler used to have their corporate headquarters there, where I worked as a consultant. The bigwigs got to park their cars inside the building (not underground, inside).

    This was a real perk, because everyone else parked in a huge surface lot. Right next to this lot, separated by a fifteen foot brick wall topped with razor wire, was one of the worst neighborhoods in the city.

    You didn’t want to get to work late, because then you’d have to park too far from the world HQ, too close to the wall, within rock-throwing distance of the neighbors.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  31. Alfa158 says:

    I would be very grateful to anyone who could translate the following random strings of Latinate letters into a coherent sentence:
    “Theorizes gestation, reprotech, family abolition…Full Surrogacy, forthcoming.”
    I’m guessing it started out as a rational sentence and then somehow the words were scrambled around into gibberish, but I can’t rearrange them into a sentence that makes any sense.
    For example; Full Surrogacy family abolition theorized forthcoming reprotech gestation, doesn’t make any more sense than than the original.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  32. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @bucky

    exactly, the super-aggressive male trans dudes who go surgical female in order to boss around other people, particularly female people, should have, in a better world,
    stayed male, and should have found contentment in enjoying the good things of life, to include that good feeling one has when one has not, in a fit of high testosterone (and, as you said, likely semi-autistic or full-autistic) selfishness, invaded the hitherto quiet places where women happily and contentedly mingle with other women.
    Why take that from them?

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  33. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “If it is kept private and nobody’s being hurt, what’s the problem?”

    Women’s queues to the toilets are much longer than the men’s, to the extent that even some XX women will brigade the latter. Whenever someone equipped to use a urinal still insists on going to the “ladies’ room”, you’d better believe there will be women raising a stink about it.

  34. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Alfa158

    “Thinks and talks about her vagina all day long.”

  35. J.Ross says: • Website
    @HA

    This is a good point but I’m not sure how it connects to what I said: competing over a public resource is not privacy.
    >use of plebbitism “brigade”
    Hmm ….

  36. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon7

    In the middle of Highland Park is Boston Edison, which is an Arts and Crafts-influenced, highly incongruous island of wealth and taste, and not a New England electrical monopoly.

  37. … they are being thoroughly pummeled by the hyper-aggressiveness of the ex-men rare as they are.

    Yes, they are rare and normally only seen in the movies by comic-book geeks, but what do you expect? Even the strongest man will be pummelled by the X-Men, if they haven’t already sent a bolt of lighting up his ass, burned a hole through his torso with a laser beam out of the forehead, or any other number of superpowers.

    I thought for sure I explained this to you people last month with a graphic.

  38. @HA

    … insists on going to the “ladies’ room”, you’d better believe there will be women raising a stink about it.

    I see what you did there.

  39. Rosie says:
    @syonredux

    WOKE AF. The UK needs to start importing more Black and Indigenous feminists RIGHT NOW!How else are cis-homo White “feminists” going to get the pummeling that they desperately need?

    That would make matters worse. It is precisely because of “intersectional feminism” (which really just means that only White women must give up our racial identity) that White women are too morally intimated by our intersectional superiors to stand up for ourselves.

  40. Anon7 says:

    I’ve been waiting for this. One of the most basic impulses that women have is the demand for attention.

    Pay attention to me!” This is what underlies the wearing of Suffragette (Virginal!) white dresses by all those female congresswomen, and their minute-long standing ovation to themselves.

    Nobody gets in line for attention in front of women. Nobody. Until now.

    I can’t wait to see how this turns out.

  41. J.Ross says: • Website

    https://postimg.cc/CZFTVFfY
    Shirt says:

    NEOMI RAO
    Trump’s [nominee for a federal bench] said
    At the same time, a good way to avoid a potential date rape is to stay reasonably sober.”
    What? [outrage]

    See, Rao is trying to prevent rape from happening, so she advocates things that will prevent it from happening. The feminists here are the ones taking it for granted that rape will happen and focusing on the philosophical assignment of cosmic blame. This is like if a person interrupted EMTs rescuing a car crash victim so a point could be made about ethics.

    • Replies: @Corn
  42. Some of The Guardian’s United States-based journalists published a disavowal, arguing that the editorial’s points “echo the position of anti-trans legislators who have pushed overtly transphobic bathroom bills.”

    Is that what “based” means? If that’s what based is, I don’t wanna be based anymore.

    OK, seriously now: Everytime you readers take in another tweet, post, or article by these pillars of stupidity – all of them, I don’t have a dog in this fight – think about what they do for a living. Most of these people are in academia*, government, or the lyin press. Every piece of stupid that wafts away from their computers is supported by your money. Please don’t support these people via Socialism. When the money stops, the stupid stops.

    .

    * Although the one lady claims to be a geographer. I LUV LUV LUV maps. So there’s that. If she could talk to me about nothing but maps and sex, and let her hair grow out, some kind of relationship could grow. I’d listen to the Indigo Girls with her, even.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  43. Last week, two British women calling themselves “feminists” stormed onto Capitol Hill for the purposes of ambushing a trans woman. Does the idea that transphobic harassment could be “feminist” bewilder you? You are not alone…

    Would anyone have understood these sentences in 1981, when half of all Americans living today weren’t born yet?

    And which Capitol Hill are they talking about? Washington? Seattle? Is there one in the UK somewhere, just as there is a New York, a Washington, and a Baseball Grounds? What business do they have here?

  44. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    If transsexualism is a real thing and not a delusion, why isn’t it recognized in animals?

    • LOL: Tusk
  45. MBlanc46 says:
    @Ender

    What? They’re all screwed up.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  46. Lurker says:

    Significantly, many Irish feminists have rejected Britain’s TERFism, citing their experience of colonialism explicitly as part of the reason.

    So many of them must well over 100 years old!

  47. JG says:

    You guys are burying the lede. From https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2043820618804625:

    Cyborg uterine geography: Complicating ‘care’ and social reproduction

    Sophie Lewis First Published November 8, 2018 Research Article

    Abstract
    Most geographers have sided with ‘cyborgs’ (technonatural subjects) against ‘goddesses’ (e.g. Mother Earth) on questions of embodiment. In itself this provides no justification for the relative dearth (in geography) of theorizing ‘with’ the uterus as a site of doing and undoing; what I propose to call uterine geography. ‘Uterine’ relations are fundamentally cyborg, animatedly labouring and not only spatial but spatializing: they make and unmake places, borders, kin. This includes not only abortion, miscarriage, menstruation and pregnancy (whose transcorporeal and chimeric character is well documented in medical anthropology) but also other life-enabling forms of holding and letting go that do not involve anatomical uteri (such as trans-mothering and other alter-familial practices). Despite our discipline’s ostensible interest in co-production, hybridity and the more-than-human, the ‘doing’ aspects of intra and interuterine processes have tended to be black-boxed in accounts of care economies and social reproduction. The proposed remedy is deromanticization: an approach that critically politicizes uterine relations as historically contingent and subject to amelioration through struggle. Potential aides include Maggie Nelson’s idea that ‘labor does you’, Suzanne Sadedin’s account of gestation’s mutual hostility and the concepts of ‘sym-poiesis’ and ‘metramorphosis’. One notable consequence of this expanded concept of the uterine is that ‘assisted reproduction’, as it is characterized today, ceases to be categorically separate from other kinds of reproduction.

  48. MBlanc46 says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Well, they’re all perverts, but, you’re right, some perverts are more dangerous than others.

  49. Jack D says:
    @Grumpy

    They don’t mention the racial makeup of the 50 worst places. I wonder why?

    I question their methodology – for example in NJ they don’t list Camden, which is the armpit of the universe. And the inclusion of all those places in Hawaii is some kind of statistical artifact of their filter criteria. “Worst” was a strange combination of high crime rate yet low affordability (high real estate price).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  50. MBlanc46 says:
    @anonymous

    Why, indeed. Turn-about?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  51. Whiskey says: • Website

    All that howling lunacy bellowing out of the vaginas of looney leftists today becomes settled policy tomorrow.

    Examples: Gay Marriage, Trannies in Bathrooms, little kid sex change operations, etc.

    Look at the defacto leader of the Democratic Party — Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. She released her “Green New Deal” today and it was all over the radio and TV and online. All about banning all cars, airplanes, cows, demolishing every building and rebuilding them as net zero.

    Plus all Hispanics world wide are owed American citizenship and don’t have to obey laws because they are really indigenous people. Especially those from Central America and should have their own special rights based on race.

    Oh, and they are all owed a guaranteed wage regardless if they work or not, or want to work.

    That’s the Democratic Party. Don’t think that pretty much every Latino on the Planet is not down with Whitey working to the bone to support them. Pure power play by Miss Congeniality to dump all over Pelosi. Total Catfight winner move.

    And be afraid — all those naughty facts about Liawatha, Princess Paleface, and Kamasutra Harris’ Wee Willie (Brown) problem? From Fusion GPS and you know who they work for. Hillary! She’s kneecapping rivals so she can ride in, tanned, rested, and ready.

    Hillary 2020 — This Time Its Personal!

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  52. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Ha ha saw what you did.

  53. @Ender

    So you people and Sailer think you can draw an artificial logical wall around homosexuality and transgenderism and say that you people have no problem with homosexuals but transgenders are icky and mentally ill, and liberals will not see through your logical hypocrisy?

    Wow, are walls in bad repute these days!

    Still, you have a valid point, though I doubt you subscribe to it yourself: perverts are perverts, and that’s that.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  54. @Change that Matters

    I don’t recall ever seeing the word scantest before. That’s pretty extreme language for a Brit. Far more so than those everyday epithets.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  55. @Tiny Duck

    There is “coalition of the fringes”

    Duck, you are the fringe with the surrey on the top.

  56. @Jack D

    ‘…And the inclusion of all those places in Hawaii is some kind of statistical artifact of their filter criteria. “Worst” was a strange combination of high crime rate yet low affordability (high real estate price).’

    You wouldn’t think it was possible, but people actually do manage to make some pretty miserable dives in paradise.

  57. Female Erasure. Is that like this?

  58. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’m certain I’ve seen it but cannot pin down where (scantest whiff of opprobrium or something along those lines).

  59. Svigor says:

    Of course I get that there are rightists who oppose “transgenderism” because (their wholesome/trad/rational reasons here). But what do you call it when you just oppose it because it’s the latest leftist horseshit, and you’ve decided to oppose all leftist horseshit, ever?

    I guess what I’m trying to say is, I don’t need well-thought-out reasons to oppose leftist horseshit anymore; I just know whatever they’re pushing is evil before they even roll it out.

    What do you call this? Reactionary? Uber-reactionary?

    • Agree: Anonym
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  60. PhDPepper says:

    I think Bailey’s taxonomy needs to be updated. There are plenty of autogenophiles (transition later in life, very masculine backgrounds and interests, maintaining sexual orientation post-transition, high IQ: Jenner) and the super girly gay men (transition earlier, lower IQ, feminine background and interests). I just see a lot of trans that don’t fit either category very well.

    For example, Brianna Wu of Gamergate fame- yes, an interest in computers, very aggressive, transitioned later, but also has a husband. Lots and lots of claims of plagairism, lying, cheating, socio-pathic behavior, victimhood. Lots of the autogenophilic types are transitioning earlier in life, and many are engaging in relationships with other men. Also lots of low IQ humanities bums, with less traditionally masculine backgrounds, transitioning and pestering women to sleep with them now they’ve done so.

    So, homosexual autogenophiles is one. Maybe super creepy beta males transitioning as a way to finally sleep with women is another. They can’t get women to sleep with them as men- that would be toxic masculinity. But they can socially coerce females to sleep with them as women- that’s cutting edge intersectionality right there!

    Finally, I remember that crazy NYT oped from a month ago or so, of the one who wanted “reassignment” surgery no matter what. He’d written a paper on watching “sissy porn”. Rod Dreher did a post on it. Maybe a certain type of guy is transitioning because of overexposure to pornography. You may think this fits in with autogenophilia, as they start to identify with and want to be the girl getting f***ed, like what they see. But, they lack other features of the classic autogenophile.
    Video games are somehow caught up in a lot of this too. Just as they can play and customize characters as women, so they would like to do so for themselves in real life.

    This area is ripe for an un-PC blockbuster of a book. Or maybe a ball buster of a book. I don’t know, they’re horrible people, horribly mean, selfish and mentally unstable. They’re perfecting the art of making life miserable for everyone around them. And no one can say anything to them. And they know it and enjoy that power. Maybe that’s what gets them off more than anything.

  61. Svigor says:
    @syonredux

    You know, it’s kind of fitting that the leftist cancer has progressed to the point that mentally ill men are allowed to join women’s sports and beat them up, unchallenged.

    The left always eats its own.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  62. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Let the TERF scream… For a century they waged insane “male erasure” campaigns to invade any and every men’s club or pastime they didn’t care about joining in the first place; now the socially constructed shoe is on the other foot. No one will protect you from the big bad transwoolf– whichever men indulge the shrewish hypocritical complainers this late in the day are wreckers on the wrong side of cistory

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  63. Bruce says:

    I wish I had ten dollars for every time I’ve heard some dim macho guy say he was a lesbian inside.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  64. Can someone tell me, why transgenderism is a thing while transracialism is not? Why is Bruce Jenner called brave for saying he is a woman, while Rachel dolezal and Liz Warren get criticized for saying they are black/native American?

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    , @Anony Trans
  65. Tyrion 2 says:

    We’re gradually edging to the point where discrimination in who you have sex with becomes problematic. That’s where feminism ends. It’ll be spectacular.

    Indeed, I suggest accelerating this. Lesbians who exclude transwomen from consensual sex are bigots. Only Nazis are against transwomen having consensual sex with them.

  66. El Dato says:

    After the wall, there needs to be “fringe reformation / learn to code” camps in calm & quiet surroundings to combat rampant fringification and enroaching academic hybridization because this is just getting out of hand.

    It’s like “The Shining”, where Jack Nicholson is a NYT transtosterone/lesbository writer looking for inspiration. Someone is bound to get hurt. Especially kids.

  67. BenKenobi says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    I weep for the future.

    Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian will be the only thing that makes sense.

    • Replies: @Ender
  68. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Terf, terf, terf is the word,’
    ‘Don’t you forget about the bird’.

  69. “middle- and upper-class white feminists have not received the pummeling from black and indigenous feminists that their American counterparts have”

    Or in other words, we indigenous Britons reject your Yankee Colonialist Narratives!!

    Actually, the situation in Britain is that we have a Lab-Con Neo-Liberal ruling elite that embraces whatever vileness comes out of the New York Times. Our police forces were transformed by the MacPherson Report into the enforcement arm of Political Correctness. BUT even though PC/cult-Marx/Soc-Jus is more oppressive in everyday life here than in the USA, IME it has much shallower roots. It has been internalised at a much lower rate than in the US; the idea that eg whites should hate themselves for their skin colour/race is not widespread at all, even in Liberal circles (I know one Indian radical academic who feels that way – but she came here from India via Australia, so plenty of chance to develop race hatred).

    I think partly it’s because our Jewish community is much smaller, Orthodox and generally religious, and does not need anti-gentile hatred as a tool of community cohesion; they are already pretty cohesive. There is some anti-gentilism on the secular fringe of British Jews, but it is in no way anything like the New York situation. There is some racism from the Black Left (who of course care nothing for Trans ideology), but in Britain the most rabid commissars of PC tend to be white gentile Blairite Labour and ‘Liberal Conservative’ Tories like Theresa May.

  70. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Says the Trannie to the Terf:

    ‘There’s nothing between us’.
    ‘Not even a penis’.

  71. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Puts a whole a new meaning on that official Olympic sporting category “Women’s Coxless Pairs”.

    (A sculling or rowing classification to be precise).

  72. Meh! UK lesbians aren’t as vicious as their US counterparts, just more courageous, but that’s not hard since UK trannies, and for that matter European trannies too, are bigger squishes than their US counterparts.

  73. @Roderick Spode

    “It’s almost as if all the evangelical fanatics who once lived in Britain had gone somewhere else to live… now where might that have been…?”

    Oz, but they’ve been marginalised there too.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Roderick Spode
  74. @Reg Cæsar

    “And which Capitol Hill are they talking about? Washington? Seattle? Is there one in the UK somewhere …?”

    Ottawa? You know, the one in what used to be The Great White North.

  75. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Turf = Greensward, which in this case, alas, is exclusionary against ‘Pork Sword’.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  76. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Never, ever has that classic olde Englishe ejection of contempt ‘it’s all a load of bollocks’ been more apposite.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  77. Altai says:

    Lewis exaggerates the power of TERFs in the UK. For instance she doesn’t even note that TERF was an epitaph applied like ‘Nazi’. It’s largely a phenomena of women over 50 only and highly unpleasant anti-social ones at that. Only radical feminists themselves are obsessed enough to notice them and they are decidedly not higher on the progressive stack.

  78. @Tyrion 2

    And from there to the right to be loved. Which implies at least some unlucky saps will then have a duty to love everyone. Let’s call them the ”love-givers”. Gotta love everyone, and equally. If you are assigned to be a love-giver, you must love me as much as you love your wife. If you don’t, you are denying me my right. Never mind you don’t know who I am, and are not interested in knowing — no, you MUST be interested in me. You must love me. You must accept me as your wife.

    Sounds insane, but also familiar. Not an original idea.

    I’d say that’s where our society ends, not just feminism. A new one will emerge in its place, possibly a glorious, saner one. But if it does get to that, I suspect the page turn is not far ahead.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  79. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @bucky

    On autism, it’s close to becoming an obsolete classification in light of recent genetic research, sort of how Freudian psychology was destroyed. Plomin touched on it in Blueprint, but Kevin Mitchell goes deep into it in “Innate,” in the “Exceptions” chapter. There are about 100 different genetic defects, each of which can cause an autism-like condition.

    The whole way that the psychiatric profession divides neuropathologies up doesn’t make any sense when you look behind the curtain at the genes. They know now that many hitherto completely different mental illnesses are really different manifestations of the same thing. So that changes how they look at heritability. Also, a lot of mental illnesses, included types of autism, are not hereditary, but de novo mutations, in the germ cells or through a glitch during the building of the brain.

    I hope that researchers will get the courage to do this sort of research on gender dysphoria. It requires thousands or tens of thousands of genomes, and adding a question or two to the intake forms used for informed consent before taking genetic samples will be explosively controversial. Irate MtF trannies will figure out what’s going on, they’re smart, and they’ll create an uproar, “They’re trying to make us look like head classes, the bigots!”

    But the fact that gender dysphoria is comorbid with various mental conditions is a big, big hint that it, itself, is a mental condition. First of all, the idea that discrimination against trannies causes their mental distress is unlikely, since the various problems they have, depression, etc., are genetic, we now know. Secondly, we now know that “comorbid” mental diseases are better thought of as a single encompassing condition, because that’s how they look in the genome.

  80. @The Last Real Calvinist

    It’s ecofeminists versus technofeminists. Lesbian hippies versus genderqueer cyberpunks.

    In my opinion the first group are ultimately quite wholesome. Apart from their sexual politics, they are basically in favor of the preindustrial way of life, and against the genuinely dangerous innovations of modern times, like nuclear energy and genetic engineering.

    The second group, to which the New York Times columnist belongs, are much harder to pin down. They have the radical-left animus against anything traditional – families, nations, religions, you name it – but they love the weird new arrangements that capitalism and technology make possible, and vaguely hope it will help them not only destroy the old, but also somehow produce a new order of (in the case of Sophie Lewis) “gender-free communism”.

  81. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Once we get true law, Sharia, she won’t need to fake it anymore.

  82. @Anon

    Thanks for these updates from Plomin’s and Mitchell’s books.

  83. @Achmed E. Newman

    I want to make babies with her as she is.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  84. @PhDPepper

    For those who are curious (perhaps an unfortunate word in this context), the Dreher post: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/meaning-of-andrea-long-chu-fake-vagina/

    Discussion of the paper begins at “UPDATE.3”. I get the sense that Chu xirself doesn’t identify with this particular trans typology, but xanaduself also doesn’t totally mind the existence of this phenomenon as long as it helps burn the world down. Still, the essay is disturbingly cogent. It’s enough to make a libertarian rethink their stance on porn.

    One strange pattern is that these people sometimes spontaneously kick the porn habit after transitioning. It could be that their arousal by it was just a weird sexualized response to their own anxiety. But more likely they just get less horny after their testosterone levels plummet.

  85. Ender says:
    @BenKenobi

    Maybe Franco is just what the doctor ordered?

  86. @Bruce

    It’s in the delivery, Bruce. Your way doesn’t cut it.

    The first time I heard, “I’m just a lesbian trapped inside a man’s body.” I laughed out loud. This was back when we LOLed Literally. Of course, it was also about the time I thought it was simply hilarious when the owner of a story said to my friend who was holding open the door too long “hey, guys, we can’t air-condition the whole outside.”

    • Replies: @Truth
  87. Sean says:

    You are overdoing the lesbian angle here Steve. Not all radical feminists are lesbians. Speaker’s Corner incident.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/radical-feminist-warned-refer-transgender-defendant-assault/
    A radical feminist has been warned by a judge to refer to the transgender defendant as a “she” during an assault case. Maria Maclachlan, 61, was giving evidence against Tara Wolf, 26, whom she claims tried to attack her at a rally, knocking her to the floor. …District Judge Kenneth Grant warned Ms MacLachlan to refer to Miss Wolf as “she” while giving evidence.”Terfs have a history of taking people’s pictures and posting them in pages like GenderIdentityWatch.com, a database that makes us a target for the far-right,” she told the court. […] “(The complainant) was trying to get people’s faces. She was filming the argument that was going on between the two groups.”

    Ms Maclachlan argued that she was not even aware the group were trans, saying she thought they were all male. “They were not easily perceived as trans. I don’t mind going though them face-by-face if you want to argue the toss,” she said.

    Wolf is over six feet tall.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-attacker-tara-wolf-is-a-thug-says-feminist-maria-maclachlan-pq0bwvthv

    A transgender activist was branded a “violent thug” yesterday after being found guilty of attacking a 60-year-old woman at a rally.

    Tara Wolf, 26, who was born male but identifies as female, punched Maria MacLachlan at Speakers’ Corner, in Hyde Park, last year after bragging on Facebook that she wanted “to f**k up some TERFS.” Transgender activists refer to women who disagree with them as “Terfs”, trans-exclusionary radical feminists. ….Wolf admitted that before attending the rally she had written that Terfs were “no better than FASH [fascists]”.

    They know now that many hitherto completely different mental illnesses are really different manifestations of the same thing.

    On my reading Plomin says there are many small effect genes that when you have a lot will make it much more likely you will have a mental disorder but that is only an extreme version of normal tendencies in average people, and the same group of small effect genes (hundreds) are behind what until now have been thought to be different major mental disorder groups. Plomin says intelligence and the brain is generalist. In other words if you are good at English you will also be capable of being good at Maths, and “generalist genes imply that individual differences in brain structure and function are largely caused by diffuse effects that affect many brain regions and functions”.

    There definitely seems to be a factor for creative or artistic ability that can be expressed as schizophrenia. However, I think there is increasing evidence that when there is outright mental illness it is often sparked as a overreaction to infection. The single gene with the greatest (still not that much) correlation with schizophrenia confers amped up inflammation. The other day I read that research now indicates that the plaques in the brain of Alzheimer sufferers are actually targeting gum disease bacteria that have got into the brain.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  88. @Ender

    Wow. Low grade po-mo deconstructionist mental diarrhea, trying to pass as a critique. You keep trying harder, Mr. Try-Hard. I’ll close with a query more to your mental level:

    lulz, millenial sez wut?

  89. Drive says:

    Trans women should embrace the “we will replace you” slogan and rub it in those terf’s faces. “Female erasure” is a far right conspiracy theory

  90. Cortes says:
    @Anonymous

    Perhaps it’s the lack of bollocks which characterises the ideal social environment for many women: the harem, where they can order around and conspire with eunuchs and scheme against real or perceived rivals throughout their lives.

    As the theme song might go: “If you knew Tsu Hsi like I know Tsu Hsi…”

  91. JEG says:
    @bucky

    I think I am quite good at recognizing people on the autism spectrum even though it’s tricky to do so for people who not that far away from being neurotypical. I also happen to personally know several transwomen very well and can vouch for the fact that none of these transwomen are on the spectrum. They all felt as if they were female inside their entire lives.

  92. Dorothy:Toto….I don’t think we are in Kansas anymore…….

  93. AndrewR says:

    In Britain, however, the space for this sort of dialogue has been much more limited. As a result, middle- and upper-class white feminists have not received the pummeling from black and indigenous feminists that their American counterparts have

    Uh… Did you not notice how Lewis implies that “indigenous” people, even in Britain, are inherently non-white?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Philip Owen
  94. Corn says:
    @J.Ross

    Good for Rao. When feminists do this sh*t it drives me nuts.

    If a parent were sending their child to the big city from a small town, they’d give them advice. “Keep your head up”, “look around, know your surroundings “, “don’t take shortcuts through dark alleys” etc.

    Why do they say that? Lessen the kid’s chance of getting mugged. But if you tell a woman “don’t get loaded around a bunch of men, especially ones you don’t know”, then you’re “victim blaming”, “excusing rape” etc

  95. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anton Chigurh

    This chick could have–should have–become an attorney, doctor or CEO at the highest level; but because of feminism, had become a “nonbinary LGBTQX poet and educator” teaching Gender Studies part time at a small college and otherwise writing poetry and fuming with Salon and Jezebel in her little 1-bedroom with her 3 cats.

    Being an obscure feminist poet, she probably does less damage to society than if she had become a feminist attorney or CEO.

  96. Bill B. says:
    @GermanReader2

    Can someone tell me, why transgenderism is a thing while transracialism is not?

    Because the trannies are boldly pushing into unoccupied space but transracials are stepping on toes on already owned land?

  97. @Anton Chigurh

    This chick could have–should have–become an attorney, doctor or CEO at the highest level; …
    Feminism stole this girl’s awesome potential and turned her into a joke.

    Anton Chigurh is about the last person i want to quarrel with, but the stolen “awesome potential” of this girl wasn’t CEO or lawyerhood, but being a mother to a bunch of smart kids.

    CEO and lawyer success just doesn’t matter. They are transitory. There is the odd smart nerdy guy whose invention really is of more benefit to us than his genes. But what society actually needs most from most smart people and all smart women is smart children.

  98. Ann Coulter gets aggressive in her use of demography to make a point about how mass legal immigration and illegal immigration are destroying the cultural cohesion of the United States.

  99. @Anton Chigurh

    I wish Sailer would spend more of his amazing intellectual energies on real things, not the myriad stupid-shit-of-the-day coming out of the far leftist howling vaginas

    Steve Sailer should focus more on central banker shysterism and resource extraction and the interaction of banking and energy.

    Lots of vagina talk recently on Unz Review. Bison Joseph, the famed Unz Review commenter of good cheer, even went so far as to suggest that Bezos’s new broad might have a magic vagina. Mr. Joseph seemed to think that Bezos would give up 70 billion smackers for some magical vagina connected to that Charo knockoff creature.

    Trump has called for massive increases in legal immigration and Sailer has remained mum.

    Sailer should moderate my comments on through; especially the one connecting the shale oil play to Central Banker Shysterism. Some people make the mistake of putting the oil extraction cart before the cheap money horse.

  100. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, I agree, but I bet Steve doesn’t. He’s really careful with his words and isn’t going to morally condemn anyone as a sinful perv.

    Can you make a good logical argument connecting all this perversion and how one leads to another and we shouldn’t even be letting the train leave the station?

    Interestingly, I was watching one of those stupid British talk circle programs and here’s the token “conservative” saying, well, now we know that loosening all the laws about porn and cursing in publishing and movies back in the 60’s didn’t bring the promised improvement in behavior. Remember how it was going to let off the steam and people would be more faithful in marriage and kinder to kids? Balderdash. Well, the leftists sitting there agreed and shook their heads in despair at how far our culture has descended into utter nihilism. Of course, their idea of morality is nothing traditional or Christian, but they can see that letting cats out of the bag creates even worse problems than any of us thought possible.

    We can’t even get male and female straight anymore.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  101. Spangel says:
    @PhDPepper

    I’m disturbed by the amount of detail you know on this topic. But hey, bully for you I guess.

    I suspect their may be two major causes of m2w trans mentality. One is a kind of autistic mentality in which men have normal hetero fantasies about women but somehow invert themselves into being the woman rather than acting upon the woman in their fantasies. These are basically straight men with predominantly straight male psychological profiles that feel they look at the world through the lens of female sexuality.

    The other cause of m2w trans people are gay men who experience their gay male sexuality as female sexuality. These have feminine psychological profiles.

    • Replies: @PhDPepper
  102. The reason for this divergence isn’t exactly a state secret.

    This minoritarian ideology–minorities good, majorities bad–is a creation of Jews. It grew and really took root here in American media, academic and political culture and has been pushed out from America–academically, politically and culturally, but especially through media (Hollyweird)–first to the Anglosphere and on to the broader West.

    It’s certainly true that it dovetails in Europe with some more indigenous trends–post-colonial and post-War guilt, malaise and loss of spirit. And Europeans can certainly front run in some areas–like the UK, lacking a 1st amendment, in criminalizing dissent.

    But at its core it’s driven by American Jews. So in the UK, some lesbians with some institutional power in British government and media, can assert their interests and push back. But in the US, someone might whine a bit, but they will quickly be beaten into submission for being anti-minoritarian. Minorities are always right. And “exclusion” is the worse crime in human history–after the Holocaust.

    But for these valiant efforts, somewhere some goy guy would be sipping his Old Fashioned on the veranda of his country club with his goy guy friends. To save us from that hideous fate that the West must die.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @dfordoom
  103. @Anonymous

    Let the TERF scream… For a century they waged insane “male erasure” campaigns to invade any and every men’s club or pastime they didn’t care about joining in the first place; now the socially constructed shoe is on the other foot. No one will protect you from the big bad transwoolf– whichever men indulge the shrewish hypocritical complainers this late in the day are wreckers on the wrong side of cistory

    It is amusing to see all female institutions corrupted and destroyed.

    Basic truth: men and women are different and complementary.

    Another basic truth: it is only through excluding that people can build and maintain anything of any particular character or culture, anything of any value.

  104. wagelaborer says: • Website
    @Anton Chigurh

    Maybe you shouldn’t comment on things you clearly know nothing about. The terms “radfem” and TERF are used as insults against women who understand that men and women are biological categories of humans, and are neither “assigned by the doctor at birth” nor can they be changed by wishing really hard.

    A woman is an adult human female, not a creature who puts on high heels and make-up and throws a fit in a store if they get “misgendered”.

    https://christiannews.net/2018/12/30/deranged-man-dressed-as-woman-throws-fit-threatens-violence-after-cashier-misgenders-him/

    As the NY Times points out, however, in the US, the man in a dress knows that he could get the clerk fired, because the US has gone bat-shit crazy.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  105. wagelaborer says: • Website
    @Ender

    Of course transgenderism is encouraged where homosexuality is not. Not just Thailand, but Iran encourages homosexuals to “be cured” by using plastic surgery to change body parts.
    The “cotton ceiling” is the demand by men in dresses that lesbians submit to their “lady dicks” or have it forced down their mouths or into their vaginas, to “cure” them.
    Young lesbians are now being convinced that they are not actually female, but male. Girls as young as 14 are having double mastectomies, and puberty blockers are being prescribed at ever-increasing rates to both young boys and young girls, most of whom would grow up to be gay if they were left alone.
    This is medical conversion therapy, using drugs and plastic surgery to “fix” homosexuality.
    Of course, the trans agenda is not compatible with homosexuality.
    Puberty blockers mean that the children will never develop secondary sex characteristics and will never be able to have normal adult sex.
    The British women did not “harrass” or “attack” that six foot man in a dress. His job is as a lobbyist for the trans industry, trying to get US laws passed to make it easier for children to be sliced, diced and drugged, and for men to be able to “self-identify” their ways into women’s spaces.
    Of course radical feminists are against such travesties.

  106. Pericles says:
    @HA

    Oh, so it’s really just a practical question about length of lines and waiting times?

  107. wagelaborer says: • Website
    @Tyrion 2

    You are really, really behind the times. Men who are trans have been demanding that lesbians have sex with them for years now, and they are quite nasty about their demands.
    https://terfisaslur.com/cotton-ceiling/

    Gay men, on the whole, did not come to the defense of their lesbian sisters, until it occurred to them that they will now have to have sex with “transmen”, i.e. vagina-havers. Well, that’s going too far!
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/andrew-sullivan-the-nature-of-sex.html

  108. Pericles says:
    @Sean

    Terfs have a history of taking people’s pictures and posting them in pages like GenderIdentityWatch.com, a database that makes us a target for the far-right

    It actually seems to be a blog, not a database. Somewhat annoying that TERFs in particular can’t get it right. What were you complaining about again?

    Not sure why the far right would mind these people exposing transgenders, but perhaps it’s just a bit of casual hate slurring by ole TERF.

  109. Pericles says:
    @wagelaborer

    As far as I can tell, TERF is their own term for themselves. Trans-exclusionary radical feminists.

    • Replies: @wagelaborer
    , @Sean
  110. syonredux says:
    @AndrewR

    In Britain, however, the space for this sort of dialogue has been much more limited. As a result, middle- and upper-class white feminists have not received the pummeling from black and indigenous feminists that their American counterparts have

    Uh… Did you not notice how Lewis implies that “indigenous” people, even in Britain, are inherently non-white?

    ……Which, of course, means that Whites have no homeland…….

  111. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I too have heard that middle two-digit times. I got to asking those guys, “Oh, you like fucking the same sex?”

    It really changes the gestalt.

  112. wagelaborer says: • Website
    @Pericles

    No, TERF is a slur invented by men in dresses and their clueless neoliberal allies.

    They threaten to dox, deplatform, punch, burn and kill TERFs. (i.e., women who don’t go along with their fantasy that putting on lipstick makes them “more girly than you”, as they are wont to proclaim).

    https://terfisaslur.com/

  113. @JG

    That uterine geography is old hat – Shakespeare was doing something pretty similar 400 years ago.

    “‘Fondling,’ she saith, ‘since I have hemm’d thee here
    Within the circuit of this ivory pale,
    I’ll be a park, and thou shalt be my deer;
    Feed where thou wilt, on mountain or in dale:
    Graze on my lips; and if those hills be dry,
    Stray lower, where the pleasant fountains lie.

    Within this limit is relief enough,
    Sweet bottom-grass and high delightful plain,
    Round rising hillocks, brakes obscure and rough,
    To shelter thee from tempest and from rain
    Then be my deer, since I am such a park;
    No dog shall rouse thee, though a thousand bark.’”

  114. @Reg Cæsar

    Isn’t it usually “scantiest” – often applied to only-just-there female underwear?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  115. Sean says:
    @Pericles

    TERF is their own term for themselves.

    Not according to the radical feminist 60 year old mother with osteoporosis that was a victim of assault at speakers corner it isn’t.

    https://www.peaktrans.org/blog-the-ostensible-trial-of-tara-wolf-part-1/
    During my cross-examination, I felt mostly frustration at the absurdity of the accusations she repeatedly levelled against me and her frequent use of the term “TERF”, even though I’d explained it was a derogatory label that transactivists apply to anyone who disagrees with the core tenets of transgender ideology. […] I can’t recall much else that Wolf said beyond his repeated use of the phrase “trans exterminatory (or, sometimes “exterminationist”) radical feminists” and his suggestion that there was a movement of people that want all transgender people dead and that I was part of it. Frankly, he sounded totally bonkers.

    Hoe can can actual women in Britain refer to a man without sex change surgery in court? The judge reminded the victim to stop referring to her assailant as ‘he’ because that is what the defendant wanted. The victim said she was trying but was not used to using the word she to refer to a man. She had taken an oath to tell the whole truth and nothing but. The Judge instructed her to not refer to the defendant by use of the word “he” while giving evidence.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  116. @Grumpy

    And the number one worse city in America, Mendota, California. Here’s what the article didn’t say “94.65% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race”

  117. @Svigor

    Not really. These days sporty women are typically right wing or moderate/apolitical. Leftists hate combative/team sports. Also a lot of lesbians are not that far to the left.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  118. PhDPepper says:
    @Spangel

    “I’m disturbed by the amount of detail you know on this topic. But hey, bully for you I guess. ”

    There I go, knowing things… seriously, this is a well-covered topic in the Steve-o-sphere. You’re suspicions are identical to Michael Bailey’s taxonomy, so you seem to know a lot about it yourself. Have you read The Man Who Would Be Queen?

    Transgender ideology has sprung up like mad in our culture. People are getting fired for refusing to call men women, for not using inaccurate pronouns, for being uncomfortable with men having access to female changing rooms, for even researching the issue. Troubled teenagers are being encouraged to mutilate themselves and permanently mar their fertility. MtF who remove their penis are left with a festering wound that they’ll have to dilate forever. This increases, not decreases, the risk of suicide. Young boys are being dressed up and prostituted before cheering gay men. Libraries are hosting drag queen “story time” sessions. And god help you if you speak out against it. None of this is funny or wry or amusing. There is a real human cost to this madness, to allowing this abuse, this vile child abuse. This madness is increasing human suffering, and our culture is condemning those who won’t kowtow to it. Cross one of these people in real life, and you’ll quickly find out just how nasty and destructive they are. They have problems, and boy oh boy do they want you to have problems too.

    So quite the smarmy insinuations.

  119. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Svigor

    I guess what I’m trying to say is, I don’t need well-thought-out reasons to oppose leftist horseshit anymore; I just know whatever they’re pushing is evil before they even roll it out.

    Pretty much. Even if it’s not obviously evil you can be sure it’s poorly thought-out and will have dangerous unintended consequences.

    You can generally judge whether an idea is sensible or not by looking at the person who’s pushing it. That’s the main reason I started to doubt the whole greenie agenda – the people pushing ideas like global warming were obviously batshit crazy or were even more obviously acting out of self-interest.

  120. @Achmed E. Newman

    You said, “…Naomi Wu…”

    You said, “…insert…”

  121. @GermanReader2

    Why?

    Because sex expression is malleable on an individual level without genetic engineering, from conception on, hence externally-visible intersex disorders and the ability of people to respond to cross sex hormones even after puberty.

    Racial ancestry is a historical process of admixture. There are no natural biological process that can change one’s specific admixture post-conception.

    This is basic biology. If you’re going to hold opinions on trans people, at least have some basic scientific literacy.

    • Agree: Roderick Spode
    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  122. dfordoom says: • Website
    @The Alarmist

    “It’s almost as if all the evangelical fanatics who once lived in Britain had gone somewhere else to live… now where might that have been…?”

    Oz, but they’ve been marginalised there too.

    They’ve only ever been a tiny handful of the population in Oz, and with almost zero power and influence. Historically, as far as religion is concerned, the Catholic Church used to be the big player.

    Christians in Australia today are a microscopic minority.

    We got convicts rather than religious refugees. In retrospect we got the better deal. Most of the craziness in the U.S. stems originally from the Puritans. American liberals are secularised Puritans.

    • Replies: @Grumpy
  123. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    This minoritarian ideology–minorities good, majorities bad–is a creation of Jews.

    Calvinistic doctrine of a small number of divine elect subscribed to by the Puritans and Quakers may have played a role, no?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  124. @PhDPepper

    “…they’re horrible people, horribly mean, selfish and mentally unstable.”

    There are people like that in every broad human grouping.

    How would modest, kind, gentle, well-adjusted, and/or compassionate trans people garner you attention, especially if those qualities make them not want to seek public attention?

    The problem around here is the legitimate interest in HBD leads at times to selection bias because of the type of personalities that make the news or make waves on social media.

  125. @S. Anonyia

    A lot of female military officers lean lesbian but vote Republican.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonymous
  126. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @MBlanc46

    “Turn-about” — I would not have thought of that exact word, but since you suggested it …

    Descriptions of simple biology, and to a greater degree the description of human misuse of free will, are difficult to get right, and there is a good chance that you have lighted on what is, relatively speaking, most often the most appropriate word to describe the phenomenon under discussion.

  127. If these women do research on the Internet, are they surfin’ TERFs?

  128. @Anony Trans

    Of course, transgender people are a thing because of mosaicism and chimerism. But transracial people are not a thing, even though you have mosaicism and chimerism.

    You also obviously know it is possible to descend from an individual of any given race — say, from a Bushman, or an American Indian — and yet have a modern genetic test not pick that up. Naturally. So even though you clearly, undisputably have Bushman (and/or American Indian) ancestry, 23andme will say you are 0% Bushman/Native American.
    Not 0.2% or 0.1%, but 0%. None. No genetic engineering involved either.
    You can test again: it’ll return 0% Bushman/Native American. And for good reason.

  129. @Steve Sailer

    A lot of female military officers lean lesbian but vote Republican.

    A story goes– it may have been in National Review— that some American conservatives went to meet with like-minded chaps in the UK. One of the young Americans said that the growing gay movement was likely communist-backed.

    One of the locals chided him, “Oh, no. All the poofs I’ve known have been high Tories!”

  130. bjondo [AKA "5 dancing shlomos"] says:

    maybe the insanity is partly from:

    http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/2018/03/07/senomyx-list-food-companies-using-fetal-cells-aborted-babies-flavor/

    cannibalism can have strange effects:

    lost thoughts to confused thinking.

  131. @Anony Trans

    You can make an individual look like a member of a different race through plastic surgery and skin whitening/darkening. (look at Michael Jackson or to a lesser instance neymar). But a dna test done by those people will not change as it will not change if it is done by a trans person after a sex change.

    • Replies: @Anony Trans
  132. @Ancient Briton

    Muslims have no problem with pedophilia, since Mohammed married a six year old and had sex with her when she was nine.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  133. dfordoom says: • Website
    @stillCARealist

    Can you make a good logical argument connecting all this perversion and how one leads to another and we shouldn’t even be letting the train leave the station?

    Not just outright perversion. The normalisation of adultery, promiscuity and divorce have done just as much harm, to both society and to the individual.

    All sexual misconduct is harmful.

  134. dfordoom says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    It’s certainly true that it dovetails in Europe with some more indigenous trends–post-colonial and post-War guilt, malaise and loss of spirit.

    In Europe it started with the decay of Christianity in the 18th century. The 19th century was all downhill. By the beginning of the 20th century, before the First World War, European art was already celebrating degeneracy, squalor and nihilism. In fact European art and literature had been wallowing in the gutter for quite a while (think of Byron, or Baudelaire, or Swinburne).

    Occult fads and what we’d now call New Age cults became very popular in the late 19th century.

    The intellectual class were entirely secular. The upper and lower classes were mostly secular. Christianity held a bit longer among the middle classes but in places like England it was largely cultural Christianity.

    European civilisation was beginning to crumble. The First World War accelerated a process that had already begun.

    It’s possible that American intellectuals picked up the infection from the French in the 20s and 30. And of course German intellectuals fleeing the Nazis brought even more virulent strains with them. America was particularly vulnerable since American Puritanism quickly transformed itself into missionary liberalism.

    So it probably started in Europe but became truly pathological in America.

  135. @GermanReader2

    The point you are evading is that there is more to biological sex development than DNA. Ancestry on the other hand is solely a product of DNA and nothing else.

    Once you acknowledge that biological complexity, you have to start addressing research into what causes transsexualism rather than making disparaging comparisons to nonsense like transracialism or people who think they are Napoleon.

    I would add that while I agree that genital surgery is purely cosmetic with trans people, the influence of cross-sex hormones is very biologically real, which again drives home the point that sex is not just a matter of genetics.

  136. @The Alarmist

    Only since the Clinton era, right?

  137. There are different varieties of transwomen though. Gynephilic and phallophilic have v different profiles, and it’s apparently well documented.

  138. Pericles says:
    @Sean

    Seems pretty weak sauce for an insult. They are radical feminists and they exclude transgenders, just like the label says. Okay then!

    As far as I’m concerned, radical feminists are crazy but the judge you mention is crazier (as are the TERF-bashing trannies, but that goes without saying).

  139. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    ‘Lean lesbian’.

    ‘Tis a rare bird, outside of the fantasies peddled by the porn industry.

    Not for nothing was the approbation ‘Bull Dyke’ composed.

  140. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    When commercial off-track gambling on horseracing in the UK was first legalized, back in the early ’60s, the newly founded bookmakers’ shops – which spread all over the UK with great rapidity, rather like a plague of Somalis – tried to dignify themselves by using the silly misnomer ‘Turf Accountant’, (perhaps the couplet of Prairie Oyster?), to describe their nefarious activity.

    Well I suppose these days ‘turf accountant’ means a transgendered CEO of some Wall Street firm.

  141. Neoconned says:
    @Whiskey

    I keep telling folks Hillary will run again in 2020 but nobody believes me….its her ego.

    She can’t stand not having it stroked and can’t accept Trump beat her fair and square….

  142. BSBuster says:
    @Ender

    Um, you clearly have never been to Thailand. I live in Thailand, and have a long time. Homosexuality is broadly accepted. You may not like homosexuality, and that’s fine, but it’s best to be accurate about a country you know nothing about. Have you ever heard of Soi Twilight (the gay neighborhood in Bangkok)? In upcountry Thailand, far north of Bangkok or Pattaya, gay people are everywhere, accepted without question, and the only discrimination they typically receive is from Thai Chinese parents who do not want their children to fail in passing down their name. You are disconnected from reality, I’m afraid to say. It is without question the most gay-friendly country in all of East Asia.

  143. @Anony Trans

    “Race expression” is malleable too. Take enough T and you’ll soon find you take offence easily and get into fights with those who you think are disrespecting you.

    “There are no natural biological process that can change one’s specific admixture post-conception.”

    There are no natural biological processes that can add or subtract a Y chromosome from someone born XX or XY, either. As for intersex, these are a tiny percentage of births, you may as well claim albino Kenyans are ‘race-expressing’ as white.

    Female “sex expression” doesn’t seem to go very deep if you have XY – see those who claim a female identity but use the evolved male tool of violence against perceived enemies – see Tara Wolf or Lauren Jeska for examples.

    http://transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/31/lauren-jeska/

  144. @Anonymous

    This minoritarian ideology–minorities good, majorities bad–is a creation of Jews.

    Calvinistic doctrine of a small number of divine elect subscribed to by the Puritans and Quakers may have played a role, no?

    No.

    Dissenting protestants have been around from the beginning of the American story–foundational. Ideas springing from their religious views have certainly had their political impact–ex. abolition, prohibition.

    However there’s is nothing like minoritarianism. If you look at the political thrust of these folks thought in fact it’s attitude toward minorities is more like “behave better”–i.e. prohibition aimed at my drunken Irish cousins (and, of course men generally).

    You can certainly blame some of America’s utopian–City-on-a-Hill-ism–on these folks, but minoritarism isn’t their deal. Rather it’s pushing the whole population–the majority–to come to Jesus and behave … like a bible believing dissenting protestant.

    Minoritarism, shows up with the rise of the Jews. I’m old, but not “elderly”–at least in my own mind–and i can remember my youth, my schooling in the 60s. Even after the civil rights march minoritarianism as an ideology was still minimal in the popular culture. The culture was still highly majoritarian–and it was fricking great! (I feel bad for the guys behind me that missed this experience and even worse for my children and descendants. What’s been lost is immesasurable.)

    No minoritarianism is a Jewish ideology and has been pushed out to the broader West by American political, military and cultural dominance. (Where that media\cultural dominance is not overwhelming, it doesn’t really take root.)

    Hate to say it, but Europe would have been better off if the US and Russia had nuked each other in October ’62.

  145. @Tyrion 2

    We’re gradually edging to the point where discrimination in who you have sex with becomes problematic. That’s where feminism ends. It’ll be spectacular.

    This is already here on the racial side in the USA.

    There are, i believe, the usual minoritarian opt outs. If you’re a Jewish woman, you can say you are only interested in Jewish guys. If you’re a black woman, you can say you only want to date black men.

    But if you are a white gentile woman you will be badgered and denounced if you publically admit that you are only interested in white men, or do not want to date or have sex with black men. You must be interested in black men, you must find them wildly attractive. Fairly to do so means you’re a racist.

    Of course a white woman can still go about her business of trying to find a white guy to marry and father her children. That is not–as yet–a problem. She can have her private opinion of the suitability of black men for her. But she can not speak about her preferences publically or risk denunciation.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  146. @AndrewR

    Overheard in the Officer’s mess in Sandhurst: “nothing wrong with the Welsh. They make damn fine soldiers under white officers.”

  147. @GermanReader2

    Yup. Child abuse is baked right into the ideology.

    But hey, people that spent a week on a package tour in Casablanca and Agadir, Morocco assure me that Islam is no big deal.

  148. @AnotherDad

    I feel as though we are rapidly approaching the point where the lunatic Left is going to start floating laws banning heterosexual white men – i.e. if a white male cannot prove he is bisexual to the state then it’s off to the re-education camp or worse.

    Sure, it sounds crazy, but just a few years ago people said the same thing about 70% income tax rates and annual wealth taxes…

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  149. @Anon

    Of course it must be very distressing to believe you are ‘trapped in the wrong body.’ These people deserve pity and might benefit from extensive therapy.

    But it is downright cruel for the self-proclaimed ‘believers’ in science to say, yes, you’re right. Nature has made a mistake, and you are it. Let’s cut your genitals off and build you a mock hoohah, then hope to hell it doesn’t necrotize.

  150. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Hannah Gadsby explains the paradox of the ‘good man.’ She’s a comedienne, but don’t you dare laugh.

  151. Grumpy says:
    @dfordoom

    The theory connecting Puritanism and modern liberalism has become popular in certain circles lately, but it is unconvincing. Puritans are the ultimate WASP scapegoats. Conveniently, there aren’t any around to defend themselves.

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