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The weak form of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is that having a term for a reality or a concept makes it easier to notice that reality and easier to think about that concept, while not having a term for it makes thinking harder. As Orwell wrote in the appendix to 1984 on Newspeak:

Take for example the well-known passage from the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government…

It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be to swallow the whole passage up in the single word crimethink.

The editor of the NYT editorial page explains that all those incidents since BLM emerged of angry black men attacking police officers as vengeance can’t possibly be considered “Black Identity Extremist terrorism” because you are racist and therefore you are not allowed to have useful terms for phenomena:

The F.B.I.’s Black Phantom Menace
Andrew Rosenthal OCT. 19, 2017

When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches and lone-wolf psychopaths like the one who murdered at least 59 people in Las Vegas on Oct. 1.

In other words, White Men.

Uh, a lot of us also think of domestic-born Muslim terrorists like in Orlando and San Bernardino, but not Mr. Rosenthal.

Not the Federal Bureau of Investigation. It’s thinking outside that narrow box.

In a report that was never supposed to be made public, but was on Oct. 6 by foreignpolicy.org, the F.B.I.’s Counterterrorism Division has concluded that there is a real threat from the “black identity extremist” movement.

It said “Black Identity Extremist (BIE) perceptions of police brutality against African Americans” has been responsible for “an increase in premeditated, retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement and will very likely serve as justification for such violence” in the future.

Wait, what exactly is black identity extremism? The answer is: nothing.

Nothing, you hear me, nothing. Under the rules of Sapir-Whorf Act, you evil white people are not allowed to have a term for this spectacular phenomenon that helped get Trump elected.

The FBI report cites six examples in which there is verbal evidence of , including:

- Dallas, BLM rally, July 7, 2016, black man shoots 11 cops, killing 5, shortly after President Obama denounced a couple of police killings (including Philando Castile being shot by Great White Defendant Jeronimo Yanez).

- Baton Rouge, July 17, 2016

I can think of other well-known cases, such as the murder on December 20, 2014 of two NYPD officers in retribution over the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson and Eric Garner in New York.

But noticing patterns show you are evil:

It’s a fiction, as others have powerfully argued, including Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice.

But that doesn’t make the report any less sinister. As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

The F.B.I. document takes pains to say that the mere exercise of constitutional rights to protest and even the “rhetorical embrace” of violent tactics “may not” constitute extremism. But the danger — or even the aim — is that the entire racial justice movement gets painted with the brush of terrorism.

The next time there is an act of violence by an African-American against police officers, brace yourself for the right-wing media or the attorney general or the tweeter in chief to seize on the phrase “black identity extremists.”

We control what phrases are allowed to exist. You are not allowed to invent any that we don’t like.

 
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  1. David Lunch says: • Website

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  2. bomag says:

    The next time there is an act of violence by an African-American against police officers, brace yourself for the…

    I like the inherent assumption that such things are common enough that they have to get out in front of it, lest the rest of us draw the wrong conclusion.

    Frontlashing is job security for the NYT.

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  3. Dr. X says:

    As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

    Huh.

    If it weren’t for the word “black” in that statement, it would describe perfectly the FBI’s policy toward white nationalists like Randy Weaver, and in particular toward the now-mythological “Klan.”

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  4. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.

    It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be… the single word crimethink

    Orwell is tremendously underrated for his sense of humor!

    But really if you look at the Oldspeak passage above, it is pretty creaky. How are men created (and does this include women?). What is a creator? Are United States citizens and North Koreans created equal?

    What is the right to life? Am I right in thinking this applies to the unborn, but not to those sentenced to death for crimes? Has the Supreme Court ever ruled on the right to life, or ruled that convicted murderers full outside the category of “all men”.

    What about the consent of the governed? In the British press one reads a lot about “policing by consent”, but why is the concept rarely in the news in the US? Is this one of those ideas that needs to be christened so it can be talked about?

    In this model of policing, police officers are regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. “Policing by consent” indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

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    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    It is worth noting that the Declaration of Independence has as much legal force as The New Colossus
    , @J.Ross
    Policing by consent as your friendly fellow white Englishman is not possible in de facto Apartheid paradises of vibrant diversity.
    , @Jack D
    Right from the start, American police forces had a different history than London "Bobbies". American law enforcement have always been armed because they always had to deal with "bad hombres" (even back in the day they were Latinos).
    , @hyperbola
    If anything the "british press" is even worse than mainstream media in the US. And, like the US, 95% of it is owned by a racist-supremacist, mideast sect that abuses the Brits. “Policing by consent” is just state propaganda.

    Censorship in the Digital Age
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/20/censorship-in-the-digital-age/
    .... the British government has decided to prosecute pre-crime but has done away with the clunky plot device of the pre-cogs, opting rather to rely on a hazy sense of higher probability to justify surveilling, nabbing, convicting, and imprisoning British citizens. The crime? Looking at radical content on the Internet. What is considered radical will naturally be defined by the state police who will doubtless be personally incentivized by pre-crime quotas, and institutionally shaped to criminalize trains of thought that threaten to destabilize a criminal status quo. You know, the unregulated monopoly capitalist regime that cuts wages, costs, and all other forms of overhead with psychopathic glee. Even a Grenfell Towers disaster is regarded more as a question of how to remove the story from public consciousness than rectify its wrongs.....
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  5. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered “white” gradually inching its way into the mainstream media. This is a welcome development, since the power of the virtue signal depends on the reader’s perception of altruism emanating from signaler’s non-inclusion in the [inter]sectional category being boostered, i.e., a male feminist, a straight supporter of gay marriage, a “Christian” observer of Ramadan in solidarity, a white champion of black Civil Rights. If the debate continues to gain in visibility, eventually twits like Rosenthal will be forced to clarify on which side they stand in order to maintain their credibility. If nothing else, that will greatly reduce the amount of double-talk from (((America)))’s Newspaper of Record.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered “white” gradually inching its way into the mainstream media.

    The definition is contextual. Jewish whiteness depends on whether their being white would be good or bad for the Jews.

    E.g. "Hello, my fellow white people" article. Author is white.

    Jewish abuse of power. Weinstein is a member of the white male patriarchy.

    Jewish high concentration relative to population numbers in elite universities as it relates to AA - Jews are white. Jewish presence in politics, Supreme Court, Hollywood, newspapers... Jews are white.

    Right to express ethnic pride, solidarity and animus/aggression towards the out-group. Jews are not white.

    Right to control immigration, to enforce border security, to have a country explicitly for their own interest... Jews are not white.
    , @J.Ross
    re white Jews: have you seen this? Master imgur of numerous cases of Jews trying to thought-lead, introducing themselves as "white like you," "we whites have an obligation to do X" or saying "dear fellow white people." Here:
    https://www.imgur.com/a/gJ4C5
    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.
    , @Bill Jones
    "Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered “white"

    Hell no.

    That's for us whites to decide.
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  6. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches

    Uh, a lot of us also think of domestic-born Muslim terrorists like in Orlando and San Bernardino, but not Mr. Rosenthal.

    Tacit acknowledgement that such creatures aren’t really American?

    But then when Brett Stephens slurs American natives in comparison to immigrants, we’re also supposed to think of whites.

    Schroedinger’s Americans.

    Andrew Rosenthal

    Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice

    We control what phrases are allowed to exist. You are not allowed to invent any that we don’t like.

    (((High verbal IQ))).

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    The Tsarnaev brothers and Major Hassan would be more examples of domestic terrorism. I don't think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren't American, he just doesn't want anyone noticing terrorists that aren't white men.
    , @Steve-o
    Once you understand the Culture of the Critiquers in the media, you can't unsee it. It's like looking at the world with the Hoffman lenses in They Live.
    Getting the schwartzes worked up is something the Rosenthals and Cohens want. But you're racist for NOTICING, goy!
    , @Alden
    I think of terrorists as the blacks who destroyed our great cities after 1940, who are now destroying suburbs and rural towns as they are moved like cattle out of the cities, commit the majority of crime and who prey on Whites
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  7. Anonym says:

    If they don’t like me having the term Black Identity Extremism, they certainly won’t like the term I’ll come up with to describe arguments to erode white solidarity made by guys named Rosenthal resting on arguments made by guys named Cohen.

    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It’s kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.

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    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It’s kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.
     
    You're right. You only forgot to mention Saperstein--another variant featured in Rosemary's Baby.
    , @Jack D
    Sapir probably does come from sapphire but Shapiro doesn't. There are a dozen totally different, mutually exclusive theories as to what Shapiro mean, which really means that no one has any idea what it really means.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Sapir was Jewish, but Whorf was a Klingon.
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  8. HI says:

    I have a term for Mr. Rosenthal: globalist subversive.

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  9. slumber_j says:

    Utterly off-topic, but extremely iSteve-relevant: Worldwide Paper Of Record The Daily Mail reports on Obama’s love letters to his white college girlfriend Alexandra McNear.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996088/Letters-young-Obama-trying-way.html

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    Hm, I haven't yet recovered from reading the first paragraph of the NYT drivel about the "Power Posing" lady that Steve linked to yesterday. Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?
    , @JimB
    Obama’s love letters, indeed. He should have mailed them to himself.
    , @Anonymous
    I can't believe a 20 year old in the 1980's could pen something so cheesy unless it was some sort of joke.

    He has the tone of a Victorian governor sending field notes back to his Love in England. Comical.
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  10. Barnard says:
    @Anonymous


    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches
     
    Uh, a lot of us also think of domestic-born Muslim terrorists like in Orlando and San Bernardino, but not Mr. Rosenthal.
     
    Tacit acknowledgement that such creatures aren't really American?

    But then when Brett Stephens slurs American natives in comparison to immigrants, we're also supposed to think of whites.

    Schroedinger's Americans.



    Andrew Rosenthal
     

    Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice
     
    We control what phrases are allowed to exist. You are not allowed to invent any that we don’t like.
     
    (((High verbal IQ))).

    The Tsarnaev brothers and Major Hassan would be more examples of domestic terrorism. I don’t think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren’t American, he just doesn’t want anyone noticing terrorists that aren’t white men.

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    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as 'white' for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it's got to be possible.
    , @Anonymous

    I don’t think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren’t American, he just doesn’t want anyone noticing terrorists that aren’t white men.
     
    Since much of the article details the FBI's historical relationship with black activism, the rest relies on readers' expectations of what is conventionally American to fill in the blanks, and that is what excludes recent imports of somewhat alien peoples, i.e. the "foreign".
    , @anonymous
    Fun personal story about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_bombings and the audacity of crimestop:

    Just as Ahmad Rahimi was being captured, my coworker said "When something like this happens, naturally your first thought is that it's Trump supporters, or other white supremacists." That statement would have been enough to blow my mind on its own. But the dumpster bomb exploded just a couple blocks from my apartment right after I'd gotten home, so I got to find out what it feels like to have my near-victimhood exploited for virtue signalling points. And of course, the points you earn for playing that particular card increase exponentially with your proximity to the footprints of the twin towers. Our office is just a couple blocks away from those. I was in awe.

    (Apparently Rahimi was found guilty in federal court a few days ago. I'm surprised I didn't see it in the news.)

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  11. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The authors of the report act as though there is doubt about the institutional racism in our country and in some police forces. (I am not saying all white police officers are racists.)

    I suppose this piece was too short for Rosenthal to bother finessing POC-on-POC killings by cops as internalized white supremacy embodying that “institutional racism” in yet another strike against whites.

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  12. jackson says:

    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    See, it’s settled!

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    https://i.imgur.com/e63oZQj.jpg
    , @Pericles

    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

     

    That's some serious echoing.
    , @Forbes
    Like the game of telephone--the last message received is usually distorted and/or very funny.
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  13. KunioKun says:

    Unz.com is a hotbed of Linguistic Terrorism.

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  14. BLACK IDENTITY EXTREMIST

    That’s not bad. Anything BLACK in it will be bad for Democrats as they try to sell their slop to White Core American voters. White Core Americans have had enough of the anti-White nonsense from the Democrat Party. Give the guy at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who cooked up Black Identity Extremist some extra vacation time and longer lunches.

    The Democrat Party is the party of Black Identity Extremism.

    The Democrat Party is made up of Blacks, Black Identity Extremists, Jews, Mestizos, Asians, some White government workers and other White wackos.

    I think Black Identity Radical is better for the spoken word. A good politician could bend the radical into having a “kill” at the end to frighten the voters.

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  15. No one, but no one fostered more black-white division in this country than Barack Obama and his hand maidens, such as Eric Holder.

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    Eric Holder. For years I have been holding the Crimethought that the U.S. Attorney General was the real-life version of Jackie Childs

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jackie+childs&&view=detail&mid=B7D158A94A03CEE1A05BB7D158A94A03CEE1A05B&rvsmid=14189A19BF417FD3341214189A19BF417FD33412&FORM=VDQVAP

    compare

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Holder+Blasts+Issa&&view=detail&mid=0CE4CB01627E246FC3080CE4CB01627E246FC308&FORM=VRDGAR

    , @Anonymous

    No one, but no one fostered more black-white division in this country than Barack Obama and his hand maidens, such as Eric Holder.
     
    Another instance of incompetent zebras ruining the game.
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  16. Coemgen says:
    @slumber_j
    Utterly off-topic, but extremely iSteve-relevant: Worldwide Paper Of Record The Daily Mail reports on Obama's love letters to his white college girlfriend Alexandra McNear.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996088/Letters-young-Obama-trying-way.html

    Hm, I haven’t yet recovered from reading the first paragraph of the NYT drivel about the “Power Posing” lady that Steve linked to yesterday. Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?

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    Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?
     
    Oh, yes: yes it will. The nausea will be exquisite.

    This should give you a sense of things:


    The following month, he writes to her about the challenges of maintaining a relationship. He says it 'requires breaking some sweat. Like a good basketball game. Or a fine dance. Or making love.'
     
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  17. Rosenthal and Cohen at the Justice Center Brennan.

    The surnames alone warrant disregarding what they’re saying.

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  18. Forbes says:

    Fitting bit of writing/creating The Narrative. Like father–like son. Andrew Rosenthal is the son of A.M. Rosenthal, long time Timesman (’43-’99). Rosenthal pere, as Metro Editor, oversaw the Kitty Genovese story that created the myth of 37 indifferent neighbors who failed to come to Genovese’s aid, based on a luncheon quip made to Rosenthal by the NYPD Commissioner.

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    The son is more politically correct than the father.
    , @Alden
    Did any news outlet ever mention that Kitty Genovese was murdered by a black man?

    I doubt it.
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  19. Mr. Rosenthal himself is in the domestic terror business.

    It is unsurprising that he would attempt to restrict alternative sources of supply that could drive down prices or segment his market.

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  20. kihowi says:

    This affects some more than others. There are the “word thinkers” as Adams calls them who can probably be paralyzed entirely by restricting the language that they have access to. Then there are “image thinkers”, like me, who can think of a great many things but can never put them into words satisfactorily. You find yourself using “sort of” and “or something” a lot because you’re always aware that whatever you’re saying is a long way away from the image you see floating in the air in front of you.

    I’m also convinced the hold language has over you is connected to intelligence. If there isn’t a ready-made phrase for whatever you’re trying to say you’re forced write a description on the spot; dumb people have trouble with that. Usually the same people who think anything with words in it is equally impressive (“go read a book”) and who get very angry about definitions.

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    Unsatisfactory, because the root argument is about concepts, and for our purposes, words and images are interchangeable. Orwell's point isn't that Chumbawamba or the staff at Lobster are inarticulate. They're maximally far from it. His point is that cultic control is achieved through out-thinking the subject and keeping the subject to approved pathways, and that's done with language. But to your point it is most certainly also done with images, and definitely so in the Soviet Union, and elsewhere. Trying to think of the last time a fictional Israeli was depicted in legacy media, who was neither charming nor sexy, or trying to be. I think "Frantic" (very early 80s), by Roman Polanski, who was very much a dissident regarding Zionism.
    Possibly unhelpful illustration: consider the guy who out-thinks himself, responding to questions so effortfully and dishonestly that it becomes clear that he is trying to corral you into a certain perception that obviates your own stated viewpoint. Consider the Israeli government spokesman on Mark Snow after the Mavi Marmara Massacre (in which Israel murdered more Americans); Snow asks about Erdogan's angry initial response, which had to do with protecting Turkish vessels and citizens, and the Israeli comes right back with an incredulous demand as to whether Snow expects that Turkey will declare war.
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  21. We need a term for scribes like Andrew Rosenthal.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    The old-fashioned term was 'traitor.' Screw anyone who feels no sense of allegiance to the people who made this country great.
    , @Rod1963
    Rosenthal is like all members of the tribe who write for the NYT.

    Their writings always center of the evils of the cis gendered white man, law enforcement and Western civilization along witht he promotion open borders and unlimited immigration. If you have read a dozen of their articles you have read them all. It's like watching a episode of Bones, NCIS or SVU, you in essence have watched all of their episodes because they are all variation based on a formula.

    It's all very Goebbles like. The tribe members all repeat variations of the big lie.
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  22. @Forbes
    Fitting bit of writing/creating The Narrative. Like father--like son. Andrew Rosenthal is the son of A.M. Rosenthal, long time Timesman ('43-'99). Rosenthal pere, as Metro Editor, oversaw the Kitty Genovese story that created the myth of 37 indifferent neighbors who failed to come to Genovese's aid, based on a luncheon quip made to Rosenthal by the NYPD Commissioner.

    The son is more politically correct than the father.

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    Contra Jack Cashill's assumptions, Obama's love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years's later.
    , @Desiderius
    One wishes that greatness would hurry up with skipping that generation.

    See also: Punch and Pinch.

    , @Forbes
    Well, the son is certainly far more left-wing than the father. If the shoe fits...
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  23. Chase says:

    Cohen. You know, you’d think they were smart enough to realize people are starting to notice. Maybe at least pull back for a few years, consolidate those massive gains. It’ll never happen.

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    It is a lust for power. And how do you know you have power? By inflicting pain on others who cannot fight back. It is a pathology that always devours the elite. Jewish attempts to gain power over others have not been the exception, although they involve more greed, dickishness and whining.
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  24. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Buzz Mohawk
    We need a term for scribes like Andrew Rosenthal.

    The old-fashioned term was ‘traitor.’ Screw anyone who feels no sense of allegiance to the people who made this country great.

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  25. @Steve Sailer
    The son is more politically correct than the father.

    Contra Jack Cashill’s assumptions, Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.

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    • Replies: @bartok

    Contra Jack Cashill’s assumptions, Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.
     
    The nautical argument still ... holds water.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html

    Do Obama's letters JIBE with his memoir? (nautical - Bill Ayers)
    Or do they JIVE with? (funky music - Obama)

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.
     
    Obama's love letters were ghostwritten?
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  26. Nsfw says:

    Wow, Obama got Bill Ayers to write love letters for him too.

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  27. Lurker says:
    @Barnard
    The Tsarnaev brothers and Major Hassan would be more examples of domestic terrorism. I don't think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren't American, he just doesn't want anyone noticing terrorists that aren't white men.

    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as ‘white’ for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it’s got to be possible.

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    These guys from Mel Gibson's Apocalypto would be considered White for some crime statistic formulas:

    https://twitter.com/DestAddict/status/897141433311698945
    , @D. K.
    All three are White / Caucasian, both for the purposes of the United States Census and for the crime statistics collected, categorized and published by the Department of Justice (as well as by the states and their subdivisions). The Obama Administration was seemingly leaning toward breaking out the MENAs (Middle Easterners and North Africans) from the White / Caucasian category, for the 2020 Census, but I have yet to hear what the Trump Administration will end up doing. (Based on the past nine months, I assume that he will allow his Census Bureau to categorize them as non-White, rather than as White-but-- a la most Hispanics, who claim to be racially White, even when they are swarthy mestizos-- and then have the rest of the federal government treat MENAs as oppressed people who are entitled to all of the goodies originally offered up to Blacks, as the descendants of slaves!?!) I use the term "indigenous Europeans" for those of us who are responsible for everything bad, so as to exclude Ashkenazis.
    , @Jack D
    Who could be more Caucasian than guys from the actual Caucasus?
    , @ScarletNumber
    The Brothers Tsarnaev are the literal definition of white people.
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  28. slumber_j says:
    @Coemgen
    Hm, I haven't yet recovered from reading the first paragraph of the NYT drivel about the "Power Posing" lady that Steve linked to yesterday. Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?

    Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?

    Oh, yes: yes it will. The nausea will be exquisite.

    This should give you a sense of things:

    The following month, he writes to her about the challenges of maintaining a relationship. He says it ‘requires breaking some sweat. Like a good basketball game. Or a fine dance. Or making love.’

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    So, not only a narcissist, but a pompous narcissist.

    Yeah, "breaking a sweat", but in actuality only in the service of preservation of his narcissist entitlements without the inconvenience of genuine engagement, because sociopaths such as he can only mimic true engagement; it's as if he were puzzling it out like someone who is profoundly autistic. Smart enough to pass a Turing test, but a vague disquiet remains to those intuitive enough to detect the whirling of gears. No wonder he found a teleprompter to be so comforting. It saved him the trouble of that genuine, interpersonal engagement. So awkward, that. Hence the high value attached to the image of "No Drama Obama". Hiding in plain sight. Feigning humanity? He's got people for that.

    Bill Clinton, on the other hand, could seem extremely engaged, yet all the while, he was in reality pissing on your leg. Outwardly seeming so engaged was he that you would likely not notice that warm wetness saturating your pants leg dripping downwards into your shoe. Magisterial.
    , @Olorin
    President Smoove B.

    https://www.theonion.com/get-smooved-1819584148


    Smoove B resides in the city of Cincinnati, OH, in a 10th-floor penthouse. He is a regular guest contributor at the Cincinnati Learning Annex, where he teaches the popular six-week course, "The Fundamentals Of Relationship Communication."
     
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  29. Anonym says:
    @anonymous
    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered "white" gradually inching its way into the mainstream media. This is a welcome development, since the power of the virtue signal depends on the reader's perception of altruism emanating from signaler's non-inclusion in the [inter]sectional category being boostered, i.e., a male feminist, a straight supporter of gay marriage, a "Christian" observer of Ramadan in solidarity, a white champion of black Civil Rights. If the debate continues to gain in visibility, eventually twits like Rosenthal will be forced to clarify on which side they stand in order to maintain their credibility. If nothing else, that will greatly reduce the amount of double-talk from (((America)))'s Newspaper of Record.

    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered “white” gradually inching its way into the mainstream media.

    The definition is contextual. Jewish whiteness depends on whether their being white would be good or bad for the Jews.

    E.g. “Hello, my fellow white people” article. Author is white.

    Jewish abuse of power. Weinstein is a member of the white male patriarchy.

    Jewish high concentration relative to population numbers in elite universities as it relates to AA – Jews are white. Jewish presence in politics, Supreme Court, Hollywood, newspapers… Jews are white.

    Right to express ethnic pride, solidarity and animus/aggression towards the out-group. Jews are not white.

    Right to control immigration, to enforce border security, to have a country explicitly for their own interest… Jews are not white.

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  30. @Jonathan Mason

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
     
    It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be... the single word crimethink

    Orwell is tremendously underrated for his sense of humor!

    But really if you look at the Oldspeak passage above, it is pretty creaky. How are men created (and does this include women?). What is a creator? Are United States citizens and North Koreans created equal?

    What is the right to life? Am I right in thinking this applies to the unborn, but not to those sentenced to death for crimes? Has the Supreme Court ever ruled on the right to life, or ruled that convicted murderers full outside the category of "all men".

    What about the consent of the governed? In the British press one reads a lot about "policing by consent", but why is the concept rarely in the news in the US? Is this one of those ideas that needs to be christened so it can be talked about?

    In this model of policing, police officers are regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

    It is worth noting that the Declaration of Independence has as much legal force as The New Colossus

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    "BINGO!"
    , @Hibernian
    That might be debatable, since it's the founding document of the Republic. It might be evidence of the intent of the Founders, persuasive authority, etc.
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  31. bgates says:

    the Oklahoma City bomber

    An actual person. I know who that was.

    white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia

    I know this sort of person exists, but what are the acts of terrorism such people are supposed to have committed? The only incident I can think of that might fit is the death in Charlottesville, and that hasn’t even gone to trial yet. (By the way, when you’re done shaking your damn head at the horrible people who “wallow in Nazi nostalgia”, check out https://www.nytimes.com/column/red-century to learn about the kind of murderous totalitarianism sophisticated people love!)

    racists who spray gunfire in black churches

    Dylan Roof. Singular. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_against_African-American_churches, there have been rather a lot of fires in black churches, but the only two attacks that involved gunfire were the atrocity by Roof and the murder of Martin Luther King Jr’s mother and another person by a black man. (The wikipedia list mention’s Roof’s race but not the other, though the page on Alberta King has that detail.)

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    By the way, when you’re done shaking your damn head at the horrible people who “wallow in Nazi nostalgia”, check out https://www.nytimes.com/column/red-century to learn about the kind of murderous totalitarianism sophisticated people love!
     
    The title of one column:

    What Killed the Promise of Muslim Communism?
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  32. J.Ross says: • Website

    >… as others have *powerfully* argued …
    These folks are extremely rigid in their language patterns, to the point where prediction and identification are reliable, and one of their favorite proprietary shibboleths is “powerful.” The adjective (or adverb) used in this sense is perfectly divorced from any detectable ability to perform work or effect sone result. Indeed, it is so tied to refined tastes and ivory tower views that it is verified by an inability to get any response from the majority of people. Something described as “powerful” always means “this is one of us.”

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jackson
    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    See, it's settled!

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  34. Svigor says:

    I have a long, off-topic comment typed up about my theory that season four of Agents of SHIELD is just the latest evidence (“Agents of Hydra” was the real kicker) that Joss Whedon is subversive against leftism, but decided to spare everyone. TL;DR version:

    1. Whedon’s leftism reminds me of a boxer taking a dive. His leftism is flat, flat, flat; poorly-written, poorly-delivered. Over and over again, sometimes to “WTF?” levels (examples from the finale episode of “Agents of Hydra” storyline: the obviously stupid black actor (not Mack, the other guy) and his horrible butchery of dialog that’s dumbed-down begin with; the weird, out-of-the-blue “maybe she’s just a racist” from Daisy that almost seemed like an indictment of how casually and stupidly leftists play the race card).

    2. Whedon’s villainous rightism doesn’t sound all that villainous, and when it does, it doesn’t sound all that rightist; in fact, at its worst it sounds more like leftism.

    Put another way: I am right-wing as Hell. And this series didn’t bother me in any significant way (I’ve learned to accept his silly butt-kicking-babe fetish). That is one Hell of an achievement for a leftist.

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    So I should start watching again?
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  35. @Lurker
    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as 'white' for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it's got to be possible.

    These guys from Mel Gibson’s Apocalypto would be considered White for some crime statistic formulas:

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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Barnard
    The Tsarnaev brothers and Major Hassan would be more examples of domestic terrorism. I don't think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren't American, he just doesn't want anyone noticing terrorists that aren't white men.

    I don’t think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren’t American, he just doesn’t want anyone noticing terrorists that aren’t white men.

    Since much of the article details the FBI’s historical relationship with black activism, the rest relies on readers’ expectations of what is conventionally American to fill in the blanks, and that is what excludes recent imports of somewhat alien peoples, i.e. the “foreign”.

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    It's another example of how intersectionalist analyses *require* a "white default" on American and more generally Western life to sustain themselves. They would argue that this is correct and that it's what they're trying to dismantle, but in reality they reinforce the notion and indeed since they make an easy living shreaking about it so loudly they have every interest in doing so.
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  37. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

    Has-a-History-of excuse, or HAHO excuse.

    It’s true that FBI did shady things in the past(and still does).
    But using that logic, FBI must always be wrong about black problems.

    Imagine if someone said NY Times has a ‘history of colluding with administrations to invade other nations’. That is true. So, is NY times wrong about every foreign policy issue?

    Also, many Jews have a history of financial swindling, so does that mean ALL Jews on Wall Street are suspect?

    And if the FBI is so untrustworthy, why did NYT rely so much on the BS about Russia Hacking? After all, FBI, esp under Hoover, had a history of anti-Russian fear-mongering in the Cold War.

    Btw, FBI is wrong in this sense. While it’s true that black psychos do target cops, the REAL THREAT posed by blacks target white civilians, and this has less to do with black ideology than the simple fact that blacks see other races as weaker and wussier. That is the real black supremacism.

    Finally, Jewish elites HAVE A HISTORY OF using black issue to guilt-bait whites into paralysis. This is just the latest example.

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    "Imagine if someone said NY Times has a ‘history of colluding with administrations to invade other nations’. "

    Not to mention their pro-Communism.
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  38. whorefinder says: • Website

    The Left is trying to get ahead of the meme.

    The Left is often insulted online as not being able to meme. “The Left Can’t Meme!” is an insult from the 4chan/reddit crowd that has itself become a meme. Basically, the anti-Left has been very effective in delivering pithy, memorable memes in support of their political points, while the Left has lagged far behind.

    Part of this is the groupthink of Leftists (“Doesn’t everyone just love Hamilton! and Girls?”), and part of it is, as the people in power, they haven’t had to understand normal people’s thinking for a while, nor had to be as fast moving or reactive as those out of power.

    And part of it is, as the people in power, any effective Leftist meme writers are fully employed in Hollywood and New York writing comedy for TV, Movies, and Advertising, and so don’t have the time to spend online developing funny pictures to support their political points. But if you’re anti-P.C./Anti-Left, you’re either not employable because you’re too anti-Left or else you are employed by the media but are so frustrated with your p.c. strictures that you use your free time to get online and release your frustration through biting memes.

    So the best meme minds of the anti-left are working on the memes full time, but the best meme minds of the left are not.

    Here, the Left is trying to crack a righty meme (“Black identity extremists”) before it begins to take hold in the culture, which is another strategy, and, I dare say, far better for the group in power: don’t try to out guerrilla the guerrillas, instead expose their next guerrilla activity before it happens and build up the defenses in the area the guerrillas are targeting. If they can develop counter-rhetoric to the meme “Black Identity Extremists” before it hits the mainstream, they can take the wind out of it’s sails.

    However, we also have the Memer-in-Chief in Trump, who understands the power of a label or phrase, and knows how to pivot from one that’s not working to one that works. That’s deadly for the Left’s strategy here.

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  39. J.Ross says: • Website
    @kihowi
    This affects some more than others. There are the "word thinkers" as Adams calls them who can probably be paralyzed entirely by restricting the language that they have access to. Then there are "image thinkers", like me, who can think of a great many things but can never put them into words satisfactorily. You find yourself using "sort of" and "or something" a lot because you're always aware that whatever you're saying is a long way away from the image you see floating in the air in front of you.

    I'm also convinced the hold language has over you is connected to intelligence. If there isn't a ready-made phrase for whatever you're trying to say you're forced write a description on the spot; dumb people have trouble with that. Usually the same people who think anything with words in it is equally impressive ("go read a book") and who get very angry about definitions.

    Unsatisfactory, because the root argument is about concepts, and for our purposes, words and images are interchangeable. Orwell’s point isn’t that Chumbawamba or the staff at Lobster are inarticulate. They’re maximally far from it. His point is that cultic control is achieved through out-thinking the subject and keeping the subject to approved pathways, and that’s done with language. But to your point it is most certainly also done with images, and definitely so in the Soviet Union, and elsewhere. Trying to think of the last time a fictional Israeli was depicted in legacy media, who was neither charming nor sexy, or trying to be. I think “Frantic” (very early 80s), by Roman Polanski, who was very much a dissident regarding Zionism.
    Possibly unhelpful illustration: consider the guy who out-thinks himself, responding to questions so effortfully and dishonestly that it becomes clear that he is trying to corral you into a certain perception that obviates your own stated viewpoint. Consider the Israeli government spokesman on Mark Snow after the Mavi Marmara Massacre (in which Israel murdered more Americans); Snow asks about Erdogan’s angry initial response, which had to do with protecting Turkish vessels and citizens, and the Israeli comes right back with an incredulous demand as to whether Snow expects that Turkey will declare war.

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  40. Svigor says:

    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    See, it’s settled!

    Swap “talking to” for “retweeting” and you’ve got NPR.

    Or the NYT.

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  41. bartok says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Contra Jack Cashill's assumptions, Obama's love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years's later.

    Contra Jack Cashill’s assumptions, Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.

    The nautical argument still … holds water.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html

    Do Obama’s letters JIBE with his memoir? (nautical – Bill Ayers)
    Or do they JIVE with? (funky music – Obama)

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    Steve obviously wrote love letters to his wife and his MBA papers all in the same voice.
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  42. JimB says:
    @slumber_j
    Utterly off-topic, but extremely iSteve-relevant: Worldwide Paper Of Record The Daily Mail reports on Obama's love letters to his white college girlfriend Alexandra McNear.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996088/Letters-young-Obama-trying-way.html

    Obama’s love letters, indeed. He should have mailed them to himself.

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    Or back to Occidental. He mentions in one of the letters that he experimented with guys at Occidental.
    , @Forbes
    Do we know he didn't mail the letters to himself? Curious re-surfacing within a year of departing after 8 years in the WH...
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  43. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anonymous
    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered "white" gradually inching its way into the mainstream media. This is a welcome development, since the power of the virtue signal depends on the reader's perception of altruism emanating from signaler's non-inclusion in the [inter]sectional category being boostered, i.e., a male feminist, a straight supporter of gay marriage, a "Christian" observer of Ramadan in solidarity, a white champion of black Civil Rights. If the debate continues to gain in visibility, eventually twits like Rosenthal will be forced to clarify on which side they stand in order to maintain their credibility. If nothing else, that will greatly reduce the amount of double-talk from (((America)))'s Newspaper of Record.

    re white Jews: have you seen this? Master imgur of numerous cases of Jews trying to thought-lead, introducing themselves as “white like you,” “we whites have an obligation to do X” or saying “dear fellow white people.” Here:

    https://www.imgur.com/a/gJ4C5

    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.

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    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.
     
    1. You're still talking a definitive minority of decent folks. Check out the voting demographics of the last three U.S. presidential elections.
    2. Getting decent Jews to admit the truth about the rampant subversiveness of their ungrateful urban coreligionists is not a small feat. Understandably the implications are pretty drastic for them: it is difficult to come to terms with.
    , @Broski

    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.
     
    Dunno about that. When all those people in Whitefish MT were harassing Richard Spencer's mom, seemed to be a lot of stereotypical Jewish names at the vanguard of the effort.
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  44. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jonathan Mason

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
     
    It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be... the single word crimethink

    Orwell is tremendously underrated for his sense of humor!

    But really if you look at the Oldspeak passage above, it is pretty creaky. How are men created (and does this include women?). What is a creator? Are United States citizens and North Koreans created equal?

    What is the right to life? Am I right in thinking this applies to the unborn, but not to those sentenced to death for crimes? Has the Supreme Court ever ruled on the right to life, or ruled that convicted murderers full outside the category of "all men".

    What about the consent of the governed? In the British press one reads a lot about "policing by consent", but why is the concept rarely in the news in the US? Is this one of those ideas that needs to be christened so it can be talked about?

    In this model of policing, police officers are regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

    Policing by consent as your friendly fellow white Englishman is not possible in de facto Apartheid paradises of vibrant diversity.

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  45. @Anonym
    If they don't like me having the term Black Identity Extremism, they certainly won't like the term I'll come up with to describe arguments to erode white solidarity made by guys named Rosenthal resting on arguments made by guys named Cohen.

    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It's kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.

    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It’s kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.

    You’re right. You only forgot to mention Saperstein–another variant featured in Rosemary’s Baby.

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  46. Jack D says:
    @Anonym
    If they don't like me having the term Black Identity Extremism, they certainly won't like the term I'll come up with to describe arguments to erode white solidarity made by guys named Rosenthal resting on arguments made by guys named Cohen.

    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It's kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.

    Sapir probably does come from sapphire but Shapiro doesn’t. There are a dozen totally different, mutually exclusive theories as to what Shapiro mean, which really means that no one has any idea what it really means.

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    I’ve always heard that Shapiro is a German Jewish name derived from the City of Speyer, Germany, where many of the original Ashkenazi Jews originated.

    IIRC-The other major towns were Worms and Mainz.
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  47. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @JimB
    Obama’s love letters, indeed. He should have mailed them to himself.

    Or back to Occidental. He mentions in one of the letters that he experimented with guys at Occidental.

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  48. @slumber_j

    Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?
     
    Oh, yes: yes it will. The nausea will be exquisite.

    This should give you a sense of things:


    The following month, he writes to her about the challenges of maintaining a relationship. He says it 'requires breaking some sweat. Like a good basketball game. Or a fine dance. Or making love.'
     

    So, not only a narcissist, but a pompous narcissist.

    Yeah, “breaking a sweat”, but in actuality only in the service of preservation of his narcissist entitlements without the inconvenience of genuine engagement, because sociopaths such as he can only mimic true engagement; it’s as if he were puzzling it out like someone who is profoundly autistic. Smart enough to pass a Turing test, but a vague disquiet remains to those intuitive enough to detect the whirling of gears. No wonder he found a teleprompter to be so comforting. It saved him the trouble of that genuine, interpersonal engagement. So awkward, that. Hence the high value attached to the image of “No Drama Obama”. Hiding in plain sight. Feigning humanity? He’s got people for that.

    Bill Clinton, on the other hand, could seem extremely engaged, yet all the while, he was in reality pissing on your leg. Outwardly seeming so engaged was he that you would likely not notice that warm wetness saturating your pants leg dripping downwards into your shoe. Magisterial.

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  49. JohnnyD says:

    Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?

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    Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?
     
    Jews who don’t write for the NYT.
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  50. D. K. says:
    @Lurker
    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as 'white' for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it's got to be possible.

    All three are White / Caucasian, both for the purposes of the United States Census and for the crime statistics collected, categorized and published by the Department of Justice (as well as by the states and their subdivisions). The Obama Administration was seemingly leaning toward breaking out the MENAs (Middle Easterners and North Africans) from the White / Caucasian category, for the 2020 Census, but I have yet to hear what the Trump Administration will end up doing. (Based on the past nine months, I assume that he will allow his Census Bureau to categorize them as non-White, rather than as White-but– a la most Hispanics, who claim to be racially White, even when they are swarthy mestizos– and then have the rest of the federal government treat MENAs as oppressed people who are entitled to all of the goodies originally offered up to Blacks, as the descendants of slaves!?!) I use the term “indigenous Europeans” for those of us who are responsible for everything bad, so as to exclude Ashkenazis.

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    Chechens are neither Middle Easterners nor North Africans. They're a genetically mixed tribe, but they are as white as any European.
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  51. Jack D says:

    OT. PLEASE read John F. Kelly’s remarks tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

    I don’t remember the last time I read something so heartfelt and moving coming out of the swamp of Washington. Nothing Hillary Clinton has ever uttered in her life has 1% of the sincerity of Kelly’s remarks. The man is the real thing. I don’t know the man’s politics but he is a person of such quality that I would vote for him in heartbeat no matter what. I didn’t think that men of this quality even existed anymore.

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    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    I heard the audio of Kelly on Hannity as I was driving home. Then I turned on the TV to get the weather, but it was too early, and instead CBS's John Dickerson was on explaining that Kelly was saying the same thing George W. was saying about political discourse. Really? Dickerson said nothing about Kelly's recitation of said congresswoman's remarks at the FBI Center named in honor of the FBI agents that died in Miami in the 1980s (she took credit for the facility because she called Obama and Obama gave her $20M and a cell phone). Kelly said she was an "empty barrel" because "empty barrels make all the noise" but Dickerson said nothing about the point of Kelly's remarks - a pointed rebuke to a congresswoman politicizing the death of an American soldier to try to score a point against Trump.

    John Dickerson is a whore. And the Left is an continual toxic substance spill, polluting everything it contacts.
    , @Desiderius
    He makes a fine first Prime Minister of the American Empire.
    , @anon
    I saw Kelly's news conference.

    The moment Kelly described the message he advised Trump to deliver, I cringed. It is a carefully constructed script. Kelly gave Trump the unabridged, highly detailed version. It also included the embellishment that the fallen was even more of a hero for volunteering.

    Trump insists on winging it. He can't stand speaking from a script.

    I blame Kelly for not more assertively advising Trump *not* to call. But what to say? Give him the minimal, most basic message. And avoid something as highly nuanced as the 'knowingly signed up for' line. Call him a hero, check that box, and get off stage.

    Kelly gave a great performance. But it was simply recovering from an unforced error. Maybe the net impact of the entire sequence of events was a slight positive. In another context, a similar speech could have been a major positive.

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  52. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    But that doesn’t make the report any less sinister.

    I guess you could also say it’s dark. Or would that be racist?

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  53. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
     
    It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be... the single word crimethink

    Orwell is tremendously underrated for his sense of humor!

    But really if you look at the Oldspeak passage above, it is pretty creaky. How are men created (and does this include women?). What is a creator? Are United States citizens and North Koreans created equal?

    What is the right to life? Am I right in thinking this applies to the unborn, but not to those sentenced to death for crimes? Has the Supreme Court ever ruled on the right to life, or ruled that convicted murderers full outside the category of "all men".

    What about the consent of the governed? In the British press one reads a lot about "policing by consent", but why is the concept rarely in the news in the US? Is this one of those ideas that needs to be christened so it can be talked about?

    In this model of policing, police officers are regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

    Right from the start, American police forces had a different history than London “Bobbies”. American law enforcement have always been armed because they always had to deal with “bad hombres” (even back in the day they were Latinos).

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    The History of Policing in the United States, Part 1

    Written by Dr. Gary Potter

    The development of policing in the United States closely followed the development of policing in England. In the early colonies policing took two forms. It was both informal and communal, which is referred to as the "Watch," or private-for-profit policing, which is called "The Big Stick” (Spitzer, 1979).

    The watch system was composed of community volunteers whose primary duty was to warn of impending danger. Boston created a night watch in 1636, New York in 1658 and Philadelphia in 1700. The night watch was not a particularly effective crime control device. Watchmen often slept or drank on duty....


    http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/history-policing-united-states-part-1

    More than crime, modern police forces in the United States emerged as a response to "disorder." What constitutes social and public order depends largely on who is defining those terms, and in the cities of 19th century America they were defined by the mercantile interests, who through taxes and political influence supported the development of bureaucratic policing institutions. These economic interests had a greater interest in social control than crime control. Private and for profit policing was too disorganized and too crime-specific in form to fulfill these needs. The emerging commercial elites needed a mechanism to insure a stable and orderly work force, a stable and orderly environment for the conduct of business, and the maintenance of what they referred to as the "collective good"
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  54. Jack D says:
    @Lurker
    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as 'white' for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it's got to be possible.

    Who could be more Caucasian than guys from the actual Caucasus?

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    But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into".
     
    It's not a liberal issue - it's a black vs non-black issue. You get that occasionally from non-blacks but, in general, there's a line they won't cross. For most blacks, there is no line they won't cross. That's what the anthem protests and the general black disgruntlement about the self-defense or accidental killings of black criminals are all about. That is why John Derbyshire's color line isn't between whites and non-whites - it's between blacks and non-blacks.
    , @Alden
    They sure looked White to me
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  55. D. K. says:
    @ScarletNumber
    It is worth noting that the Declaration of Independence has as much legal force as The New Colossus

    “BINGO!”

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  56. We’re fighting rent-seeking in its many variants, so I suggest we use that term more often.

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    This is very important. Almost everything going on now can be explained in terms of our current elite being clueless inheritors who are existentially terrified of potential competition from literate middle and working class deplorables.
    Look at George Soros. Look at Alex Soros. Now imagine George Soros looking at Alex Soros. They have no confidence in their own kids and were moving way too fast because they wanted to get it all done before they died.
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  57. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans

    FBI stands for “Forever Bothering Italians”.

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    the NYT: once again blaming the messenger rather than examine the message...
    , @Bro Methylene
    I thought it stood for "Fearsome Bastion of Incompetence," or, more recently, "Formidable Barrier to Inquiry."
    , @Hibernian
    Also Full Blooded Irish.
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  58. J.Ross says: • Website

    Sorry if someone got this already but:
    one of the big cultural rules brought in by Obama and still in effect in the Mandarinate, against which Trump has collided a bit, is the Ikhwan nonsense that we are not allowed to say words like Ummah (“Muslim World”), Jihad, Dawa (preparation or agitation for Jihad), or Muslim Extremist, and that instead of saying ISIS we have to say DAESH (which means the same thing anyway) or the childishness that is “so-called-Islamic State.” Trump will probably get rid of this or roll it back, and he’s certainly not obeying it himself. In fact Macron used the forbidden phrase Islamic Extremist in one of his first addresses. Muslims are a kind of worst case scenario of Newspeak limitation attempts, the proudly illiterate presuming to curtail the learned.

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    @theo the kraut
    We're fighting rent-seeking in its many variants, so I suggest we use that term more often.

    This is very important. Almost everything going on now can be explained in terms of our current elite being clueless inheritors who are existentially terrified of potential competition from literate middle and working class deplorables.
    Look at George Soros. Look at Alex Soros. Now imagine George Soros looking at Alex Soros. They have no confidence in their own kids and were moving way too fast because they wanted to get it all done before they died.

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  60. @Lurker
    My understanding is that Maj. Hassan counted as 'white' for crime statistics, not sure about the Brothers Tsarnaev but it's got to be possible.

    The Brothers Tsarnaev are the literal definition of white people.

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    Nah. Albinos are the literal definition of white people. ;)
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  61. @Buffalo Joe
    No one, but no one fostered more black-white division in this country than Barack Obama and his hand maidens, such as Eric Holder.
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  62. Svigor says:

    It is worth noting that the Declaration of Independence has as much legal force as The New Colossus

    DoI has a lot more legitimate potential legal force than the Lazarene Creed. One is a statement of intent by the revolutionaries who founded the country. The other is some poem.

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  63. Tiny Duck says:

    This is an example of what white racism produces every day in twisted ways that stunt black growth. Nothing new about it. Luckily black people have fought it with some success for centuries. That is one reason I am proud to be an American, and to take a knee at the national anthem in honor of douglass, dubois, king and Obama, among many others.

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  64. Steve-o says:
    @Anonymous


    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches
     
    Uh, a lot of us also think of domestic-born Muslim terrorists like in Orlando and San Bernardino, but not Mr. Rosenthal.
     
    Tacit acknowledgement that such creatures aren't really American?

    But then when Brett Stephens slurs American natives in comparison to immigrants, we're also supposed to think of whites.

    Schroedinger's Americans.



    Andrew Rosenthal
     

    Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice
     
    We control what phrases are allowed to exist. You are not allowed to invent any that we don’t like.
     
    (((High verbal IQ))).

    Once you understand the Culture of the Critiquers in the media, you can’t unsee it. It’s like looking at the world with the Hoffman lenses in They Live.
    Getting the schwartzes worked up is something the Rosenthals and Cohens want. But you’re racist for NOTICING, goy!

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  65. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government…”

    - See, it’s in the Declaration of Independence that we have the right to pull a Trump whenever we’ve got a roomful of Obamas, McCains, Bushes, and Pelosis. You should point that out next time you hear a libtantrum on Trump infringing on rights. At the very least, you’ll get them scratching their heads enough to shut up for a second.

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  66. Broski says:

    But that doesn’t make the report any less sinister. As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

    But Ruby Ridge and Waco were totally normal, not paranoid, racist, or politically expedient at all.

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  67. Tulip says:

    Its Black Identity Freedom Fighters engaged in liberation from racist police. Since Blacks have been oppressed at some time, somewhere, by somebody (mostly Whitey), any violence committed by Blacks against the Other is always self defense. Just let them rampage. In fact, maybe they can start at the formerly segregation-friendly NYT’s Offices, and Rosenthal can prove his undying commitment to anti-racism.

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  68. Kylie says:
    @Jack D
    OT. PLEASE read John F. Kelly's remarks tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

    I don't remember the last time I read something so heartfelt and moving coming out of the swamp of Washington. Nothing Hillary Clinton has ever uttered in her life has 1% of the sincerity of Kelly's remarks. The man is the real thing. I don't know the man's politics but he is a person of such quality that I would vote for him in heartbeat no matter what. I didn't think that men of this quality even existed anymore.

    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier “knew what he was getting into”, I knew instantly that Trump meant, “this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life”.

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump’s words to mean, “he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into”. The wretched female didn’t even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier’s family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

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    Better...

    His description of the Congresswoman's remarks at the dedication of the FBI office in Miami. The one honoring the agents killed in a robbery shoot out. So, a somewhat solemn occasion, where her remarks consisted of her bragging about how SHE got the money for the building.

    Kind of like when Regagan went to Normandy and gave that memorable speech about how he got a funding increase for the American Battle Monuments Commission.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.
     
    Agree.
    , @Rod1963
    The black harpy in question is a well known poverty pimp who represents a district she doesn't live in just like crazy Maxine Waters who is another classic poverty pimp.

    Oh you can be sure Obama is egging them on by donating to them on the down low.

    Now what happened in Niger shouldn't have occurred. These SF trainers were in enemy territory with a platoon of native troops who also got hammered and only had unarmored trucks with no backup. Easy prey even for half-witted black terrorists with AK-47's.

    Evidently we have squat for rapid response in country because we had to bring troops from Rota Spain to search for La Johnson's body which took them two days to find. Evidently he was left behind when our Greem hats fled.

    That's no way to run a war. These guys had no armored hummers with .50 cals or LAV's for added fire power and protection. Cheap and light and they paid the price.
    , @Olorin

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.
     
    You can wish them no worse than that they be exactly what they are.

    Remember Tiresias' words to Oedipus:

    Not Creon--thou thyself art thine own bane.

    (Loeb edition, 1912--Storr's translation of Sophocles)

    Hamartia is a lot like HBD.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    I knew instantly that Trump meant, “this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life”.
     
    In that case presumably he will have maxed out the available term life insurance policies available to him in addition to the $400,000 death benefit that the heirs of each soldier killed in combat get which is paid for by the government.

    But did he? I don't know, and Trump does not know either whether this soldier or others gave a lot of thought to the risks of the job and prepared for that eventuality.

    A lot of people join the military for a steady paycheck and access to health insurance and hope that they never get into a shooting war, especially one defending the United States in Niger, of all places.

    I don't see what the point of the Presidential phone calls to the family of each deceased soldier is. It just seems like a political trap and a waste of time. The idea is presumably that the recipient of the call will feel honored to speak to the Commander in Chief and that somehow that will cushion their bereavement and make them feel that their loved one died in service of a greater cause.

    Oh-kay! I would have thought that a signed presidential letter would do the same job and provide a permanent memento for the family to frame that minor children and their descendants might one day treasure.

    There should be a referendum among all active military as to whether they would prefer to have the death benefit increased by $100,000 or be guaranteed a presidential phone call for their wife (or husband) or parent.
    , @notanon

    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier “knew what he was getting into”, I knew instantly that

     

    yes, particularly in the context of this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_Creed

    Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.
     
    saying someone went into danger with their eyes open is a compliment.

    the media are vermin.
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  69. @Anonym
    If they don't like me having the term Black Identity Extremism, they certainly won't like the term I'll come up with to describe arguments to erode white solidarity made by guys named Rosenthal resting on arguments made by guys named Cohen.

    OTOH Edward Sapir was Jewish. It's kind of evident when you think of it, I suspect the surname is a variant of Sapphire, e.g. Shapiro, Saffire.

    Sapir was Jewish, but Whorf was a Klingon.

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  70. @Steve Sailer
    Contra Jack Cashill's assumptions, Obama's love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years's later.

    Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.

    Obama’s love letters were ghostwritten?

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    Or the "love letters" are inventions. Is it not a bit curious that the letters make a public appearance now...
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  71. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Brennan Center for Justice?

    They are Extreme Ferguson Effect Denialists. Once the FBI caved in and finally admitted that ‘violent crime is up’, rank and file denialists generally tried to change the subject. “Yes, but … “. Many, if not most relying on the fact that among whites, crime is flat or down. But not exactly saying it.

    Brennan is sticking to the story. There is no Ferguson Effect because the unthinkable is unknowable or “two points is a line, not a trend” or there isn’t enough data or that “murder may be up, but arrests are down”.

    Not to mention that they are openly debating Trump via press release on a day to day basis. That is, not even pretending to be impartial social researchers.

    The FBI was quite invested in the 2 decade decline in crime rates and reluctant to acknowledge an inflection point. They have their own motivations, but are a bit sensitive about law enforcement personnel getting murdered.

    However, the core argument is this: An important part of the decline was due to effective enforcement which was part of the huge increase in incarceration during the period. However, part of the Late Stage Obama decline was the aggressive reversal of incarceration of urban Blacks. People were being released from prison, trickling back into the neighborhoods where there was a determined effort to not to re-incarcerate.

    So hell yes. Frontlash early and frontlash often. Because what’s at stake is Late Stage Obama de-policing. What could be worse than having to admit that a ‘reform’ was a ‘mistake’?

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  72. @Jack D
    OT. PLEASE read John F. Kelly's remarks tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

    I don't remember the last time I read something so heartfelt and moving coming out of the swamp of Washington. Nothing Hillary Clinton has ever uttered in her life has 1% of the sincerity of Kelly's remarks. The man is the real thing. I don't know the man's politics but he is a person of such quality that I would vote for him in heartbeat no matter what. I didn't think that men of this quality even existed anymore.

    I heard the audio of Kelly on Hannity as I was driving home. Then I turned on the TV to get the weather, but it was too early, and instead CBS’s John Dickerson was on explaining that Kelly was saying the same thing George W. was saying about political discourse. Really? Dickerson said nothing about Kelly’s recitation of said congresswoman’s remarks at the FBI Center named in honor of the FBI agents that died in Miami in the 1980s (she took credit for the facility because she called Obama and Obama gave her $20M and a cell phone). Kelly said she was an “empty barrel” because “empty barrels make all the noise” but Dickerson said nothing about the point of Kelly’s remarks – a pointed rebuke to a congresswoman politicizing the death of an American soldier to try to score a point against Trump.

    John Dickerson is a whore. And the Left is an continual toxic substance spill, polluting everything it contacts.

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  73. @Jack D
    Who could be more Caucasian than guys from the actual Caucasus?

    But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump’s words to mean, “he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into”.

    It’s not a liberal issue – it’s a black vs non-black issue. You get that occasionally from non-blacks but, in general, there’s a line they won’t cross. For most blacks, there is no line they won’t cross. That’s what the anthem protests and the general black disgruntlement about the self-defense or accidental killings of black criminals are all about. That is why John Derbyshire’s color line isn’t between whites and non-whites – it’s between blacks and non-blacks.

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    That is why John Derbyshire’s color line isn’t between whites and non-whites – it’s between blacks and non-blacks.
     
    His Chinese wife and Eurasian children are why he draws the line in that idiosyncratic way
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  74. Busby says:
    @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    Better…

    His description of the Congresswoman’s remarks at the dedication of the FBI office in Miami. The one honoring the agents killed in a robbery shoot out. So, a somewhat solemn occasion, where her remarks consisted of her bragging about how SHE got the money for the building.

    Kind of like when Regagan went to Normandy and gave that memorable speech about how he got a funding increase for the American Battle Monuments Commission.

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  75. @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    Agree.

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  76. @Steve Sailer
    The son is more politically correct than the father.

    One wishes that greatness would hurry up with skipping that generation.

    See also: Punch and Pinch.

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  77. @Jack D
    OT. PLEASE read John F. Kelly's remarks tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

    I don't remember the last time I read something so heartfelt and moving coming out of the swamp of Washington. Nothing Hillary Clinton has ever uttered in her life has 1% of the sincerity of Kelly's remarks. The man is the real thing. I don't know the man's politics but he is a person of such quality that I would vote for him in heartbeat no matter what. I didn't think that men of this quality even existed anymore.

    He makes a fine first Prime Minister of the American Empire.

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  78. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    OT. PLEASE read John F. Kelly's remarks tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

    I don't remember the last time I read something so heartfelt and moving coming out of the swamp of Washington. Nothing Hillary Clinton has ever uttered in her life has 1% of the sincerity of Kelly's remarks. The man is the real thing. I don't know the man's politics but he is a person of such quality that I would vote for him in heartbeat no matter what. I didn't think that men of this quality even existed anymore.

    I saw Kelly’s news conference.

    The moment Kelly described the message he advised Trump to deliver, I cringed. It is a carefully constructed script. Kelly gave Trump the unabridged, highly detailed version. It also included the embellishment that the fallen was even more of a hero for volunteering.

    Trump insists on winging it. He can’t stand speaking from a script.

    I blame Kelly for not more assertively advising Trump *not* to call. But what to say? Give him the minimal, most basic message. And avoid something as highly nuanced as the ‘knowingly signed up for’ line. Call him a hero, check that box, and get off stage.

    Kelly gave a great performance. But it was simply recovering from an unforced error. Maybe the net impact of the entire sequence of events was a slight positive. In another context, a similar speech could have been a major positive.

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    But it was simply recovering from an unforced error.
     
    The only unforced error is the never-ending circular firing squad among people who are supposed to know better. You're being played like a cheap whore and have been for generations now.

    At some point one begins to suspect you like it.
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  79. Ludwig Wittgenstein anticipates Sapir-Whorf:

    Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
    Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein

    The weak form of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is that having a term for a reality or a concept makes it easier to notice that reality and easier to think about that concept, while not having a term for it makes thinking harder.

    Source: http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-is-spitting-mad-that-trumps-fbi-understands-sapir-whorf/

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    When the MSM discovers a category that grabs the audience's attention, it starts reporting on everything that fits into that category, creating the impression of a growing trend. Examples would be "Shark Attacks on Beaches" or "Child Molestation in Daycare." Later, we would learn that there was nothing extraordinary about the number of shark attacks that were reported or that the molestations at daycare centers were fabricated, but by then the MSM has discovered a new "trend" to hype. Lately, of course, it's "White Frat Boy Rapist" and "Cops Murdering Unarmed Blacks," and the MSM is most proud of inventing these trends because they support the Narrative.

    It would be a disaster for the Narrative if categories were to be identified such as "Interracial Rapists Almost Always Black," "95 Percent of Hate Crimes Are Hoaxes," or "Hispanic Immigrants a Tremendous Burden on Social Services." Those are actual categories that would grab the audience's attention, but that would harm the Narrative so those categories must never be allowed to exist.
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  80. Rod1963 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    We need a term for scribes like Andrew Rosenthal.

    Rosenthal is like all members of the tribe who write for the NYT.

    Their writings always center of the evils of the cis gendered white man, law enforcement and Western civilization along witht he promotion open borders and unlimited immigration. If you have read a dozen of their articles you have read them all. It’s like watching a episode of Bones, NCIS or SVU, you in essence have watched all of their episodes because they are all variation based on a formula.

    It’s all very Goebbles like. The tribe members all repeat variations of the big lie.

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  81. @Jack D
    Right from the start, American police forces had a different history than London "Bobbies". American law enforcement have always been armed because they always had to deal with "bad hombres" (even back in the day they were Latinos).

    The History of Policing in the United States, Part 1

    Written by Dr. Gary Potter

    The development of policing in the United States closely followed the development of policing in England. In the early colonies policing took two forms. It was both informal and communal, which is referred to as the “Watch,” or private-for-profit policing, which is called “The Big Stick” (Spitzer, 1979).

    The watch system was composed of community volunteers whose primary duty was to warn of impending danger. Boston created a night watch in 1636, New York in 1658 and Philadelphia in 1700. The night watch was not a particularly effective crime control device. Watchmen often slept or drank on duty….

    http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/history-policing-united-states-part-1

    More than crime, modern police forces in the United States emerged as a response to “disorder.” What constitutes social and public order depends largely on who is defining those terms, and in the cities of 19th century America they were defined by the mercantile interests, who through taxes and political influence supported the development of bureaucratic policing institutions. These economic interests had a greater interest in social control than crime control. Private and for profit policing was too disorganized and too crime-specific in form to fulfill these needs. The emerging commercial elites needed a mechanism to insure a stable and orderly work force, a stable and orderly environment for the conduct of business, and the maintenance of what they referred to as the “collective good”

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    "stable and orderly environment for the conduct of business,

    Yea, one where the citizens aren't shooting each other down like dogs in the streets.
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  82. Rod1963 says:
    @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    The black harpy in question is a well known poverty pimp who represents a district she doesn’t live in just like crazy Maxine Waters who is another classic poverty pimp.

    Oh you can be sure Obama is egging them on by donating to them on the down low.

    Now what happened in Niger shouldn’t have occurred. These SF trainers were in enemy territory with a platoon of native troops who also got hammered and only had unarmored trucks with no backup. Easy prey even for half-witted black terrorists with AK-47′s.

    Evidently we have squat for rapid response in country because we had to bring troops from Rota Spain to search for La Johnson’s body which took them two days to find. Evidently he was left behind when our Greem hats fled.

    That’s no way to run a war. These guys had no armored hummers with .50 cals or LAV’s for added fire power and protection. Cheap and light and they paid the price.

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  83. dlee1 says:
    @anonymous

    the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans
     
    FBI stands for "Forever Bothering Italians".

    the NYT: once again blaming the messenger rather than examine the message…

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  84. @ScarletNumber
    The Brothers Tsarnaev are the literal definition of white people.

    Nah. Albinos are the literal definition of white people. ;)

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  85. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Barnard
    The Tsarnaev brothers and Major Hassan would be more examples of domestic terrorism. I don't think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren't American, he just doesn't want anyone noticing terrorists that aren't white men.

    Fun personal story about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_bombings and the audacity of crimestop:

    Just as Ahmad Rahimi was being captured, my coworker said “When something like this happens, naturally your first thought is that it’s Trump supporters, or other white supremacists.” That statement would have been enough to blow my mind on its own. But the dumpster bomb exploded just a couple blocks from my apartment right after I’d gotten home, so I got to find out what it feels like to have my near-victimhood exploited for virtue signalling points. And of course, the points you earn for playing that particular card increase exponentially with your proximity to the footprints of the twin towers. Our office is just a couple blocks away from those. I was in awe.

    (Apparently Rahimi was found guilty in federal court a few days ago. I’m surprised I didn’t see it in the news.)

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  86. Mr. Anon says:

    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches and lone-wolf psychopaths like the one who murdered at least 59 people in Las Vegas on Oct. 1.

    I think of Omar Mateen and Seung-Hui Cho. It is clear that Andrew Rosenthal chooses not to.

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    When I think of domestic terrorism I think of those who enable it.

    Like Andy Rosenthal.
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  87. @anon
    I saw Kelly's news conference.

    The moment Kelly described the message he advised Trump to deliver, I cringed. It is a carefully constructed script. Kelly gave Trump the unabridged, highly detailed version. It also included the embellishment that the fallen was even more of a hero for volunteering.

    Trump insists on winging it. He can't stand speaking from a script.

    I blame Kelly for not more assertively advising Trump *not* to call. But what to say? Give him the minimal, most basic message. And avoid something as highly nuanced as the 'knowingly signed up for' line. Call him a hero, check that box, and get off stage.

    Kelly gave a great performance. But it was simply recovering from an unforced error. Maybe the net impact of the entire sequence of events was a slight positive. In another context, a similar speech could have been a major positive.

    But it was simply recovering from an unforced error.

    The only unforced error is the never-ending circular firing squad among people who are supposed to know better. You’re being played like a cheap whore and have been for generations now.

    At some point one begins to suspect you like it.

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  88. MB says: • Website

    “Say it loud
    Say it proud.
    Black Lies Matter.
    Because we said so and we’re out in front of the Bell curve.

    But you are not black don’t fit the social construct of the appropriate sexual gender racial category.

    Hey, we opportunize sympathize greatly with the oppressed of whatever color, race, LGBQT creed or religion (sort of). Out of the kindness of our stinking little guilty white liberal hearts.

    But you’re not black white?

    Umm, wait a minute, paleface. Who’s intimidating interrogating whom here? There’ll be no more special white privileges internet access for you, you racist anti semite bigot.

    But anti semiticism is a social construct, right?

    Well, like everything it is and it isn’t depending on the ahem, algorithm.
    But since you can’t be depended on to understand that correctly, if you keep it up, we’ll deepsix you and your KKK white privilege supremacist friends on Schmacebook to the FEMA camps.

    Say it loud and say it proud:
    Keep whitey the patriarchs the goy the breeders the conservatives gun owners fill in the blank your average American cowed.
    Just because.
    Bolshevik Lies Matter.
    Long Live the PC Revolution.”

    But will the Revolution eat it’s own this time like it has every time in the past?
    Stay tuned and mind your manners, little grasshopper and you just might find out.

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  89. DFH says:
    @Johann Ricke

    But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into".
     
    It's not a liberal issue - it's a black vs non-black issue. You get that occasionally from non-blacks but, in general, there's a line they won't cross. For most blacks, there is no line they won't cross. That's what the anthem protests and the general black disgruntlement about the self-defense or accidental killings of black criminals are all about. That is why John Derbyshire's color line isn't between whites and non-whites - it's between blacks and non-blacks.

    That is why John Derbyshire’s color line isn’t between whites and non-whites – it’s between blacks and non-blacks.

    His Chinese wife and Eurasian children are why he draws the line in that idiosyncratic way

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    His Chinese wife and Eurasian children are why he draws the line in that idiosyncratic way
     
    Not idiosyncratic* at all, and probably pre-exists even meeting his wife. The guy was always an aficionado of the Orient. He apparently spent a chunk of his youth there, even appearing as an extra in a Bruce Lee movie.

    * Idiosyncratic for a white supremacist, perhaps. But then again, Derbyshire's not a white supremacist. He just thinks blacks are defective, and American blacks are more defective than most.
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  90. @anonymous

    the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans
     
    FBI stands for "Forever Bothering Italians".

    I thought it stood for “Fearsome Bastion of Incompetence,” or, more recently, “Formidable Barrier to Inquiry.”

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  91. @DFH

    That is why John Derbyshire’s color line isn’t between whites and non-whites – it’s between blacks and non-blacks.
     
    His Chinese wife and Eurasian children are why he draws the line in that idiosyncratic way

    His Chinese wife and Eurasian children are why he draws the line in that idiosyncratic way

    Not idiosyncratic* at all, and probably pre-exists even meeting his wife. The guy was always an aficionado of the Orient. He apparently spent a chunk of his youth there, even appearing as an extra in a Bruce Lee movie.

    * Idiosyncratic for a white supremacist, perhaps. But then again, Derbyshire’s not a white supremacist. He just thinks blacks are defective, and American blacks are more defective than most.

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  92. Olorin says:
    @slumber_j

    Just the thought of reading a BHO penned lover letter is making me even more nauseous. Will actually reading it push me over the edge?
     
    Oh, yes: yes it will. The nausea will be exquisite.

    This should give you a sense of things:


    The following month, he writes to her about the challenges of maintaining a relationship. He says it 'requires breaking some sweat. Like a good basketball game. Or a fine dance. Or making love.'
     

    President Smoove B.

    https://www.theonion.com/get-smooved-1819584148

    Smoove B resides in the city of Cincinnati, OH, in a 10th-floor penthouse. He is a regular guest contributor at the Cincinnati Learning Annex, where he teaches the popular six-week course, “The Fundamentals Of Relationship Communication.”

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  93. Olorin says:
    @Mr. Anon

    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches and lone-wolf psychopaths like the one who murdered at least 59 people in Las Vegas on Oct. 1.
     
    I think of Omar Mateen and Seung-Hui Cho. It is clear that Andrew Rosenthal chooses not to.

    When I think of domestic terrorism I think of those who enable it.

    Like Andy Rosenthal.

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  94. Olorin says:
    @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    You can wish them no worse than that they be exactly what they are.

    Remember Tiresias’ words to Oedipus:

    Not Creon–thou thyself art thine own bane.

    (Loeb edition, 1912–Storr’s translation of Sophocles)

    Hamartia is a lot like HBD.

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  95. Nico says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think Rosenthal is making an acknowledgement that they aren’t American, he just doesn’t want anyone noticing terrorists that aren’t white men.
     
    Since much of the article details the FBI's historical relationship with black activism, the rest relies on readers' expectations of what is conventionally American to fill in the blanks, and that is what excludes recent imports of somewhat alien peoples, i.e. the "foreign".

    It’s another example of how intersectionalist analyses *require* a “white default” on American and more generally Western life to sustain themselves. They would argue that this is correct and that it’s what they’re trying to dismantle, but in reality they reinforce the notion and indeed since they make an easy living shreaking about it so loudly they have every interest in doing so.

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  96. @D. K.
    All three are White / Caucasian, both for the purposes of the United States Census and for the crime statistics collected, categorized and published by the Department of Justice (as well as by the states and their subdivisions). The Obama Administration was seemingly leaning toward breaking out the MENAs (Middle Easterners and North Africans) from the White / Caucasian category, for the 2020 Census, but I have yet to hear what the Trump Administration will end up doing. (Based on the past nine months, I assume that he will allow his Census Bureau to categorize them as non-White, rather than as White-but-- a la most Hispanics, who claim to be racially White, even when they are swarthy mestizos-- and then have the rest of the federal government treat MENAs as oppressed people who are entitled to all of the goodies originally offered up to Blacks, as the descendants of slaves!?!) I use the term "indigenous Europeans" for those of us who are responsible for everything bad, so as to exclude Ashkenazis.

    Chechens are neither Middle Easterners nor North Africans. They’re a genetically mixed tribe, but they are as white as any European.

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    No. Chechens are as white as any Azerbaijani, Kazakh, or Armenian, sure. Not quite the same as a Swede.
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  97. Olorin says:

    Wait, what exactly is black identity extremism? The answer is: nothing.

    I seem to recall that in the OT book of Genesis, one of Adam’s superpowers was naming things.

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  98. Pericles says:
    @jackson
    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    See, it's settled!

    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    That’s some serious echoing.

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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Buffalo Joe
    No one, but no one fostered more black-white division in this country than Barack Obama and his hand maidens, such as Eric Holder.

    No one, but no one fostered more black-white division in this country than Barack Obama and his hand maidens, such as Eric Holder.

    Another instance of incompetent zebras ruining the game.

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  100. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @JohnnyD
    Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?

    Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?

    Jews who don’t write for the NYT.

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    "Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?

    Jews who don’t write for the NYT".

    I've noted the existence of a nation in the Middle East where Jews can escape from that fear today. It seems for reasonable than destroying the ethnic-racial unity nations that they would rather inhabit.
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  101. Redman says:
    @Jack D
    Sapir probably does come from sapphire but Shapiro doesn't. There are a dozen totally different, mutually exclusive theories as to what Shapiro mean, which really means that no one has any idea what it really means.

    I’ve always heard that Shapiro is a German Jewish name derived from the City of Speyer, Germany, where many of the original Ashkenazi Jews originated.

    IIRC-The other major towns were Worms and Mainz.

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    There are not many Jewish families called Worms for some reason.

    As a schoolboy, we always joked about the Diet of Worms, before which Martin Luther was called to account prior to the issue of the Edict of Worms which states that Luther was a heretic and would be condemned to a diet of worms for the rest of his life. The joke was that this would probably be better than school lunches.
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  102. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Ludwig Wittgenstein anticipates Sapir-Whorf:

    Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
    Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein

    The weak form of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is that having a term for a reality or a concept makes it easier to notice that reality and easier to think about that concept, while not having a term for it makes thinking harder.

    Source: http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-is-spitting-mad-that-trumps-fbi-understands-sapir-whorf/

    When the MSM discovers a category that grabs the audience’s attention, it starts reporting on everything that fits into that category, creating the impression of a growing trend. Examples would be “Shark Attacks on Beaches” or “Child Molestation in Daycare.” Later, we would learn that there was nothing extraordinary about the number of shark attacks that were reported or that the molestations at daycare centers were fabricated, but by then the MSM has discovered a new “trend” to hype. Lately, of course, it’s “White Frat Boy Rapist” and “Cops Murdering Unarmed Blacks,” and the MSM is most proud of inventing these trends because they support the Narrative.

    It would be a disaster for the Narrative if categories were to be identified such as “Interracial Rapists Almost Always Black,” “95 Percent of Hate Crimes Are Hoaxes,” or “Hispanic Immigrants a Tremendous Burden on Social Services.” Those are actual categories that would grab the audience’s attention, but that would harm the Narrative so those categories must never be allowed to exist.

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  103. Brutusale says:
    @bartok

    Contra Jack Cashill’s assumptions, Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.
     
    The nautical argument still ... holds water.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html

    Do Obama's letters JIBE with his memoir? (nautical - Bill Ayers)
    Or do they JIVE with? (funky music - Obama)

    Steve obviously wrote love letters to his wife and his MBA papers all in the same voice.

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    Something tells me Obama is an awkward nerd on a level Sailer hasn't been since grade school if ever at all.
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  104. @Chase
    Cohen. You know, you’d think they were smart enough to realize people are starting to notice. Maybe at least pull back for a few years, consolidate those massive gains. It’ll never happen.

    It is a lust for power. And how do you know you have power? By inflicting pain on others who cannot fight back. It is a pathology that always devours the elite. Jewish attempts to gain power over others have not been the exception, although they involve more greed, dickishness and whining.

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  105. I’m surprised that in the list of recent examples of “violent black extremism,” no one seems to be aware of (or remember) the black nationalist who perpetrated a mass shooting at a white church in Antioch, Tennessee. It is to be expected, I suppose, that the New York Times would use Dylan Roof as an example of “white terrorism,” but would conveniently memory-hole Emanuel Kidega Samson. Perhaps it is Cohen’s unspoken-but-implied position that an African shooting up a white church out of explicitly racist motives is not “extremism,” but that violence and racial hatred are simply typical black behavior.

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  106. @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    I knew instantly that Trump meant, “this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life”.

    In that case presumably he will have maxed out the available term life insurance policies available to him in addition to the $400,000 death benefit that the heirs of each soldier killed in combat get which is paid for by the government.

    But did he? I don’t know, and Trump does not know either whether this soldier or others gave a lot of thought to the risks of the job and prepared for that eventuality.

    A lot of people join the military for a steady paycheck and access to health insurance and hope that they never get into a shooting war, especially one defending the United States in Niger, of all places.

    I don’t see what the point of the Presidential phone calls to the family of each deceased soldier is. It just seems like a political trap and a waste of time. The idea is presumably that the recipient of the call will feel honored to speak to the Commander in Chief and that somehow that will cushion their bereavement and make them feel that their loved one died in service of a greater cause.

    Oh-kay! I would have thought that a signed presidential letter would do the same job and provide a permanent memento for the family to frame that minor children and their descendants might one day treasure.

    There should be a referendum among all active military as to whether they would prefer to have the death benefit increased by $100,000 or be guaranteed a presidential phone call for their wife (or husband) or parent.

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    The death benefit is very small and the $400,000.00 is the allowed government sponsored private (Prudential) term life insurance. The premiums are small and every body and his brother elects to purchase it, at least they did in my National Guard unit.
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  107. Nico says:
    @Brutusale
    Steve obviously wrote love letters to his wife and his MBA papers all in the same voice.

    Something tells me Obama is an awkward nerd on a level Sailer hasn’t been since grade school if ever at all.

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  108. Meanwhile, Tech Companies support DACA:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/20/tech-companies-lay-out-game-plan-to-keep-dreamers-in-america/

    Do they really want to employ such people?

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    Tech companies have a great need for DACA janitors and cafeteria workers.
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  109. hyperbola says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
     
    It would have been quite impossible to render this into Newspeak while keeping to the sense of the original. The nearest one could come to doing so would be... the single word crimethink

    Orwell is tremendously underrated for his sense of humor!

    But really if you look at the Oldspeak passage above, it is pretty creaky. How are men created (and does this include women?). What is a creator? Are United States citizens and North Koreans created equal?

    What is the right to life? Am I right in thinking this applies to the unborn, but not to those sentenced to death for crimes? Has the Supreme Court ever ruled on the right to life, or ruled that convicted murderers full outside the category of "all men".

    What about the consent of the governed? In the British press one reads a lot about "policing by consent", but why is the concept rarely in the news in the US? Is this one of those ideas that needs to be christened so it can be talked about?

    In this model of policing, police officers are regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

    If anything the “british press” is even worse than mainstream media in the US. And, like the US, 95% of it is owned by a racist-supremacist, mideast sect that abuses the Brits. “Policing by consent” is just state propaganda.

    Censorship in the Digital Age

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/20/censorship-in-the-digital-age/

    …. the British government has decided to prosecute pre-crime but has done away with the clunky plot device of the pre-cogs, opting rather to rely on a hazy sense of higher probability to justify surveilling, nabbing, convicting, and imprisoning British citizens. The crime? Looking at radical content on the Internet. What is considered radical will naturally be defined by the state police who will doubtless be personally incentivized by pre-crime quotas, and institutionally shaped to criminalize trains of thought that threaten to destabilize a criminal status quo. You know, the unregulated monopoly capitalist regime that cuts wages, costs, and all other forms of overhead with psychopathic glee. Even a Grenfell Towers disaster is regarded more as a question of how to remove the story from public consciousness than rectify its wrongs…..

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    the British government has decided to prosecute pre-crime ... The crime? Looking at radical content on the Internet.
     
    Too many times terrorists are known to the intelligence services in advance, but still succeed in killing themselves and lots of other people. Being able take people into custody for looking at terrorist Web sites could be very a very useful preventative tool. [Memo to self, do not Google "Instructions on how to make a bomb and blow up virgin Christian teenage sluts and myself and go to Jannah"]

    It is rather similar to how pedophiles are lured into making dates with pubescent girls who are really police officers before they get their hands on real children. It is not really playing the game, but if you fall into this honey trap, you probably like honey more than the average bear.

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  110. Alden says:
    @Anonymous


    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches
     
    Uh, a lot of us also think of domestic-born Muslim terrorists like in Orlando and San Bernardino, but not Mr. Rosenthal.
     
    Tacit acknowledgement that such creatures aren't really American?

    But then when Brett Stephens slurs American natives in comparison to immigrants, we're also supposed to think of whites.

    Schroedinger's Americans.



    Andrew Rosenthal
     

    Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice
     
    We control what phrases are allowed to exist. You are not allowed to invent any that we don’t like.
     
    (((High verbal IQ))).

    I think of terrorists as the blacks who destroyed our great cities after 1940, who are now destroying suburbs and rural towns as they are moved like cattle out of the cities, commit the majority of crime and who prey on Whites

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  111. Alden says:
    @Forbes
    Fitting bit of writing/creating The Narrative. Like father--like son. Andrew Rosenthal is the son of A.M. Rosenthal, long time Timesman ('43-'99). Rosenthal pere, as Metro Editor, oversaw the Kitty Genovese story that created the myth of 37 indifferent neighbors who failed to come to Genovese's aid, based on a luncheon quip made to Rosenthal by the NYPD Commissioner.

    Did any news outlet ever mention that Kitty Genovese was murdered by a black man?

    I doubt it.

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  112. Alden says:
    @Jack D
    Who could be more Caucasian than guys from the actual Caucasus?

    They sure looked White to me

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  113. @Redman
    I’ve always heard that Shapiro is a German Jewish name derived from the City of Speyer, Germany, where many of the original Ashkenazi Jews originated.

    IIRC-The other major towns were Worms and Mainz.

    There are not many Jewish families called Worms for some reason.

    As a schoolboy, we always joked about the Diet of Worms, before which Martin Luther was called to account prior to the issue of the Edict of Worms which states that Luther was a heretic and would be condemned to a diet of worms for the rest of his life. The joke was that this would probably be better than school lunches.

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  114. Forbes says:
    @Desiderius
    One wishes that greatness would hurry up with skipping that generation.

    See also: Punch and Pinch.

    Apparently it did skip a generation, all things considered…

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  115. Forbes says:
    @jackson
    Cohen retweeting Goldstein retweeting Rosenberg retweeting Blumenthal.

    See, it's settled!

    Like the game of telephone–the last message received is usually distorted and/or very funny.

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  116. Alden says:
    @Peripatetic commenter
    Meanwhile, Tech Companies support DACA:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/20/tech-companies-lay-out-game-plan-to-keep-dreamers-in-america/

    Do they really want to employ such people?

    Tech companies have a great need for DACA janitors and cafeteria workers.

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  117. Forbes says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The son is more politically correct than the father.

    Well, the son is certainly far more left-wing than the father. If the shoe fits…

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  118. Forbes says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Obama’s love letters to girlfriends in the early 1980s reflect the same general prose style as in Dreams from My Father dozen years’s later.
     
    Obama's love letters were ghostwritten?

    Or the “love letters” are inventions. Is it not a bit curious that the letters make a public appearance now…

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    I imagine the letters have moved through the rare book trade for a while now--or we're perhaps more recently discovered. In any event, the rare book folks at Emory are top notch, do I doubt these letters are fakes.
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  119. notanon says:
    @Kylie
    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier "knew what he was getting into", I knew instantly that Trump meant, "this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life".

    I also know how petty, spiteful and hateful the left is. But even I was surprised that that creature deliberately chose to misinterpret and twist Trump's words to mean, "he got what he deserved, he knew what he was getting into". The wretched female didn't even stop to think how cruelly painful her announcement would be to that soldier's family. She just wanted to degrade Trump publicly.

    I wish the absolute worst on the left.

    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier “knew what he was getting into”, I knew instantly that

    yes, particularly in the context of this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_Creed

    Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.

    saying someone went into danger with their eyes open is a compliment.

    the media are vermin.

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    Politicians are without honor, but when you really plumb the depths, you have your black politicians, Rep. Frederica Wilson being the latest example. They will say anything in service to their agenda, however dishonest, however contemptible, without the slightest shame. Not only Wilson, but many others, such as "civil rights hero"--and personal hero of John McCain--John Lewis, who claimed that Tea Party demonstrators spat at him and called him the n-word when video showed nothing of the sort had occurred.

    They are NEVER called on their behavior and they will keep doing it.
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  120. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @J.Ross
    re white Jews: have you seen this? Master imgur of numerous cases of Jews trying to thought-lead, introducing themselves as "white like you," "we whites have an obligation to do X" or saying "dear fellow white people." Here:
    https://www.imgur.com/a/gJ4C5
    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.

    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.

    1. You’re still talking a definitive minority of decent folks. Check out the voting demographics of the last three U.S. presidential elections.
    2. Getting decent Jews to admit the truth about the rampant subversiveness of their ungrateful urban coreligionists is not a small feat. Understandably the implications are pretty drastic for them: it is difficult to come to terms with.

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  121. Chebyshev says:

    Do you think that one can recognize the power of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis without knowing its name?

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    Do you think that one can recognize the power of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis without knowing its name?

    It's harder, which is why I repeat it a lot.

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  122. @Chebyshev
    Do you think that one can recognize the power of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis without knowing its name?

    Do you think that one can recognize the power of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis without knowing its name?

    It’s harder, which is why I repeat it a lot.

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    Right. I imagine even most educated people have not heard of it, but maybe a lot of them intuit it.
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  123. Broski says:
    @J.Ross
    re white Jews: have you seen this? Master imgur of numerous cases of Jews trying to thought-lead, introducing themselves as "white like you," "we whites have an obligation to do X" or saying "dear fellow white people." Here:
    https://www.imgur.com/a/gJ4C5
    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.

    Generally, Jews who are not in a major city are for almost all purposes center-right and effectively white (eg, Dennis Prager, in greater LA, but definitely not Hollywood). The noisy activist echo chamber is reliably in the alleys of blue cities.

    Dunno about that. When all those people in Whitefish MT were harassing Richard Spencer’s mom, seemed to be a lot of stereotypical Jewish names at the vanguard of the effort.

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  124. @hyperbola
    If anything the "british press" is even worse than mainstream media in the US. And, like the US, 95% of it is owned by a racist-supremacist, mideast sect that abuses the Brits. “Policing by consent” is just state propaganda.

    Censorship in the Digital Age
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/20/censorship-in-the-digital-age/
    .... the British government has decided to prosecute pre-crime but has done away with the clunky plot device of the pre-cogs, opting rather to rely on a hazy sense of higher probability to justify surveilling, nabbing, convicting, and imprisoning British citizens. The crime? Looking at radical content on the Internet. What is considered radical will naturally be defined by the state police who will doubtless be personally incentivized by pre-crime quotas, and institutionally shaped to criminalize trains of thought that threaten to destabilize a criminal status quo. You know, the unregulated monopoly capitalist regime that cuts wages, costs, and all other forms of overhead with psychopathic glee. Even a Grenfell Towers disaster is regarded more as a question of how to remove the story from public consciousness than rectify its wrongs.....

    the British government has decided to prosecute pre-crime … The crime? Looking at radical content on the Internet.

    Too many times terrorists are known to the intelligence services in advance, but still succeed in killing themselves and lots of other people. Being able take people into custody for looking at terrorist Web sites could be very a very useful preventative tool. [Memo to self, do not Google "Instructions on how to make a bomb and blow up virgin Christian teenage sluts and myself and go to Jannah"]

    It is rather similar to how pedophiles are lured into making dates with pubescent girls who are really police officers before they get their hands on real children. It is not really playing the game, but if you fall into this honey trap, you probably like honey more than the average bear.

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  125. Broski says:
    @anonymous coward
    Chechens are neither Middle Easterners nor North Africans. They're a genetically mixed tribe, but they are as white as any European.

    No. Chechens are as white as any Azerbaijani, Kazakh, or Armenian, sure. Not quite the same as a Swede.

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  126. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @slumber_j
    Utterly off-topic, but extremely iSteve-relevant: Worldwide Paper Of Record The Daily Mail reports on Obama's love letters to his white college girlfriend Alexandra McNear.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996088/Letters-young-Obama-trying-way.html

    I can’t believe a 20 year old in the 1980′s could pen something so cheesy unless it was some sort of joke.

    He has the tone of a Victorian governor sending field notes back to his Love in England. Comical.

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  127. Forbes says:
    @JimB
    Obama’s love letters, indeed. He should have mailed them to himself.

    Do we know he didn’t mail the letters to himself? Curious re-surfacing within a year of departing after 8 years in the WH…

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  128. @notanon

    When I saw that female was criticizing Trump for saying a fallen soldier “knew what he was getting into”, I knew instantly that

     

    yes, particularly in the context of this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_Creed

    Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.
     
    saying someone went into danger with their eyes open is a compliment.

    the media are vermin.

    Politicians are without honor, but when you really plumb the depths, you have your black politicians, Rep. Frederica Wilson being the latest example. They will say anything in service to their agenda, however dishonest, however contemptible, without the slightest shame. Not only Wilson, but many others, such as “civil rights hero”–and personal hero of John McCain–John Lewis, who claimed that Tea Party demonstrators spat at him and called him the n-word when video showed nothing of the sort had occurred.

    They are NEVER called on their behavior and they will keep doing it.

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  129. Chebyshev says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do you think that one can recognize the power of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis without knowing its name?

    It's harder, which is why I repeat it a lot.

    Right. I imagine even most educated people have not heard of it, but maybe a lot of them intuit it.

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  130. @anonymous
    Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered "white" gradually inching its way into the mainstream media. This is a welcome development, since the power of the virtue signal depends on the reader's perception of altruism emanating from signaler's non-inclusion in the [inter]sectional category being boostered, i.e., a male feminist, a straight supporter of gay marriage, a "Christian" observer of Ramadan in solidarity, a white champion of black Civil Rights. If the debate continues to gain in visibility, eventually twits like Rosenthal will be forced to clarify on which side they stand in order to maintain their credibility. If nothing else, that will greatly reduce the amount of double-talk from (((America)))'s Newspaper of Record.

    “Recently I have noticed the debate among Jews as to whether they ought to be considered “white”

    Hell no.

    That’s for us whites to decide.

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  131. Hibernian says:
    @ScarletNumber
    It is worth noting that the Declaration of Independence has as much legal force as The New Colossus

    That might be debatable, since it’s the founding document of the Republic. It might be evidence of the intent of the Founders, persuasive authority, etc.

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  132. Hibernian says:
    @Anon
    As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

    Has-a-History-of excuse, or HAHO excuse.

    It's true that FBI did shady things in the past(and still does).
    But using that logic, FBI must always be wrong about black problems.

    Imagine if someone said NY Times has a 'history of colluding with administrations to invade other nations'. That is true. So, is NY times wrong about every foreign policy issue?

    Also, many Jews have a history of financial swindling, so does that mean ALL Jews on Wall Street are suspect?

    And if the FBI is so untrustworthy, why did NYT rely so much on the BS about Russia Hacking? After all, FBI, esp under Hoover, had a history of anti-Russian fear-mongering in the Cold War.

    Btw, FBI is wrong in this sense. While it's true that black psychos do target cops, the REAL THREAT posed by blacks target white civilians, and this has less to do with black ideology than the simple fact that blacks see other races as weaker and wussier. That is the real black supremacism.

    Finally, Jewish elites HAVE A HISTORY OF using black issue to guilt-bait whites into paralysis. This is just the latest example.

    “Imagine if someone said NY Times has a ‘history of colluding with administrations to invade other nations’. ”

    Not to mention their pro-Communism.

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  133. Hibernian says:
    @anonymous

    the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans
     
    FBI stands for "Forever Bothering Italians".

    Also Full Blooded Irish.

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  134. Hibernian says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    The History of Policing in the United States, Part 1

    Written by Dr. Gary Potter

    The development of policing in the United States closely followed the development of policing in England. In the early colonies policing took two forms. It was both informal and communal, which is referred to as the "Watch," or private-for-profit policing, which is called "The Big Stick” (Spitzer, 1979).

    The watch system was composed of community volunteers whose primary duty was to warn of impending danger. Boston created a night watch in 1636, New York in 1658 and Philadelphia in 1700. The night watch was not a particularly effective crime control device. Watchmen often slept or drank on duty....


    http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/history-policing-united-states-part-1

    More than crime, modern police forces in the United States emerged as a response to "disorder." What constitutes social and public order depends largely on who is defining those terms, and in the cities of 19th century America they were defined by the mercantile interests, who through taxes and political influence supported the development of bureaucratic policing institutions. These economic interests had a greater interest in social control than crime control. Private and for profit policing was too disorganized and too crime-specific in form to fulfill these needs. The emerging commercial elites needed a mechanism to insure a stable and orderly work force, a stable and orderly environment for the conduct of business, and the maintenance of what they referred to as the "collective good"

    “stable and orderly environment for the conduct of business,

    Yea, one where the citizens aren’t shooting each other down like dogs in the streets.

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  135. Hibernian says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I knew instantly that Trump meant, “this soldier died doing the job he chose to do knowing the job carried with it great risk to his health and life”.
     
    In that case presumably he will have maxed out the available term life insurance policies available to him in addition to the $400,000 death benefit that the heirs of each soldier killed in combat get which is paid for by the government.

    But did he? I don't know, and Trump does not know either whether this soldier or others gave a lot of thought to the risks of the job and prepared for that eventuality.

    A lot of people join the military for a steady paycheck and access to health insurance and hope that they never get into a shooting war, especially one defending the United States in Niger, of all places.

    I don't see what the point of the Presidential phone calls to the family of each deceased soldier is. It just seems like a political trap and a waste of time. The idea is presumably that the recipient of the call will feel honored to speak to the Commander in Chief and that somehow that will cushion their bereavement and make them feel that their loved one died in service of a greater cause.

    Oh-kay! I would have thought that a signed presidential letter would do the same job and provide a permanent memento for the family to frame that minor children and their descendants might one day treasure.

    There should be a referendum among all active military as to whether they would prefer to have the death benefit increased by $100,000 or be guaranteed a presidential phone call for their wife (or husband) or parent.

    The death benefit is very small and the $400,000.00 is the allowed government sponsored private (Prudential) term life insurance. The premiums are small and every body and his brother elects to purchase it, at least they did in my National Guard unit.

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  136. EdwardM says:

    When most Americans think of domestic terrorism, they probably think about the Oklahoma City bomber, white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia, racists who spray gunfire in black churches and lone-wolf psychopaths like the one who murdered at least 59 people in Las Vegas on Oct. 1.

    The F.B.I. document takes pains to say that the mere exercise of constitutional rights to protest and even the “rhetorical embrace” of violent tactics “may not” constitute extremism.

    How is the latter characterization consistent with describing “white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia” as extremism or terrorism? The contortions in this article are so sloppy that it almost seems like a subtle parody to make Steve’s point that it’s simply all about white people.

    Didn’t terrorism used to mean violence against civilians with some sort of political end? So not any old “hate crime” or act driven by “extremism”; not an assassination; but rather violence against a population to achieve a desired public policy goal, even a very broad one (like the case of the 09/11 attacks or, I suppose, the McVeigh bombing).

    In this formulation, the Las Vegas massacre is nothing like terrorism (based on what we know about it now), whereas BLM violence — like the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam in their day — are precise examples of terrorism.

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  137. @Svigor
    I have a long, off-topic comment typed up about my theory that season four of Agents of SHIELD is just the latest evidence ("Agents of Hydra" was the real kicker) that Joss Whedon is subversive against leftism, but decided to spare everyone. TL;DR version:

    1. Whedon's leftism reminds me of a boxer taking a dive. His leftism is flat, flat, flat; poorly-written, poorly-delivered. Over and over again, sometimes to "WTF?" levels (examples from the finale episode of "Agents of Hydra" storyline: the obviously stupid black actor (not Mack, the other guy) and his horrible butchery of dialog that's dumbed-down begin with; the weird, out-of-the-blue "maybe she's just a racist" from Daisy that almost seemed like an indictment of how casually and stupidly leftists play the race card).

    2. Whedon's villainous rightism doesn't sound all that villainous, and when it does, it doesn't sound all that rightist; in fact, at its worst it sounds more like leftism.

    Put another way: I am right-wing as Hell. And this series didn't bother me in any significant way (I've learned to accept his silly butt-kicking-babe fetish). That is one Hell of an achievement for a leftist.

    So I should start watching again?

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  138. @Forbes
    Or the "love letters" are inventions. Is it not a bit curious that the letters make a public appearance now...

    I imagine the letters have moved through the rare book trade for a while now–or we’re perhaps more recently discovered. In any event, the rare book folks at Emory are top notch, do I doubt these letters are fakes.

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  139. Nothing, you hear me, nothing. Under the rules of Sapir-Whorf Act, you evil white people are not allowed to have a term for this spectacular phenomenon that helped get Trump elected.

    Isn’t the fact that they refuse to name and thus think about a phenomenon that is, as you point out, a huge political disadvantage a massive own goal, so to speak?

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  140. “Comrades,” he said, “I trust that every animal here appreciates the sacrifice that Comrade Napoleon has made in taking this extra labour upon himself. Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure! On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?

    It is a pity we have no term in US English for when the military of a country takes over the executive branch by stealth. In French the term is coup d’état and in German Putsch.

    For example, when it is clear to insiders that the head of a government is no longer mentally competent ‘retired’ generals take over all the positions immediately below him so that they can countermand or obstruct his orders and decisions.

    It only becomes clear when an announcement is found one morning written on the side of the official residence of the Leader:

    Henceforth any civilian who criticizes the actions of a retired general or fails to stand for the national anthem or descrates the military flag will be guilty of a capital offense and will be put to death live on FOX Military News, after a brief hearing at a military tribunal, and their head displayed on the railings of GHQ White House. Signed, General Command of the Democratic Republic of Free People and Happiness Seekers.

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  141. I’m amused by this new term, “Black Identity Extremist“. In the past, we would’ve termed these people Black Nationalists, but in fairness, these new, BLM-adjacent types don’t seem to be guided by any sort of nationalist impulse per se. It’s a bit like Tennessee Coates suddenly taking up arms over that incident where a woman gave him a nasty look on an escalator, during the Carter administration.

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  142. Mike354 says:

    A Jewish NYT columnist (self) referencing the arguments of another Jew as “powerful”, in a non-Jewish country in regard to minority issues. Forgive us if we ignore this in full.

    Where are the powerful arguments against regarding Palestinian terrorism as such?

    “Nonexistent”.

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  143. Mike354 says:
    @Anonymous

    Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?
     
    Jews who don’t write for the NYT.

    “Besides liberal Jews who write for the NYT, has anyone seriously been afraid of Nazi terrorists post-WWII?

    Jews who don’t write for the NYT”.

    I’ve noted the existence of a nation in the Middle East where Jews can escape from that fear today. It seems for reasonable than destroying the ethnic-racial unity nations that they would rather inhabit.

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  144. anonguy says:
    @bgates
    the Oklahoma City bomber

    An actual person. I know who that was.

    white supremacists who wallow in Nazi nostalgia

    I know this sort of person exists, but what are the acts of terrorism such people are supposed to have committed? The only incident I can think of that might fit is the death in Charlottesville, and that hasn't even gone to trial yet. (By the way, when you're done shaking your damn head at the horrible people who "wallow in Nazi nostalgia", check out https://www.nytimes.com/column/red-century to learn about the kind of murderous totalitarianism sophisticated people love!)

    racists who spray gunfire in black churches

    Dylan Roof. Singular. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_against_African-American_churches, there have been rather a lot of fires in black churches, but the only two attacks that involved gunfire were the atrocity by Roof and the murder of Martin Luther King Jr's mother and another person by a black man. (The wikipedia list mention's Roof's race but not the other, though the page on Alberta King has that detail.)

    By the way, when you’re done shaking your damn head at the horrible people who “wallow in Nazi nostalgia”, check out https://www.nytimes.com/column/red-century to learn about the kind of murderous totalitarianism sophisticated people love!

    The title of one column:

    What Killed the Promise of Muslim Communism?

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  145. Miek354 says:

    Jewish Ethnocentrist Political Terrorism?

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