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“Members of the Emerald City Supporters burn a Portland Timbers scarf in 2013.” Credit Jeremy Dwyer-Lindgren/Getty Images

Back before the Rotherham Report came out, I pointed out in Taki’s Magazine why the British establishment had gone to such lengths over the years to cover up the widespread patterns of Pakistani pimps grooming and raping underage English girls. I wrote in “The Real Threat to British Elites:”

It’s difficult for Americans to grasp precisely why European elites are so terrified of populist organizations such as the BNP or the ascendant English Defence League that they instinctively cover up the crimes of barbaric foreigners.

A major difference between the US and Europe is that almost every European country has a rudimentary set of localist/nationalist organizations for young men already in place due to the more organic nature of sports over there.

The English Defence League, for example, emerged in part out of soccer hooligan firms. …

In the US, however, spectator sports were organized from the top of society down, which has largely kept them from being a vehicle for mass populism. For example, American football evolved among rivalries between universities with national pretensions: Harvard v. Yale, Army v. Navy, and Notre Dame v. USC.

Similarly, professional sports in the US always had a strongly corporate, upper-middle-class air. …

In contrast, European soccer clubs mostly emerged from their indigenous communities. European soccer teams sponsored local youth leagues that served as feeder systems for talent. American college basketball coaches, though, are lauded not for their training, but for scouring distant slums to recruit genetically gifted one-and-done stars. …

In recent decades, European soccer has been corporatized, with importation of South American superstars and fairly successful efforts to suppress hooliganism by making the spectator experience more genteel, like that of American football. Still, unlike American sports, soccer furnishes the skeleton of a system by which nationalist loyalties could potentially be organized.

This scares European elites. To them, Pakistanis are no challenge. Sure, they’re good at gang-raping little girls, but they’re hardly a threat to the establishment. It’s European men—with their talent for self-organization—who frighten Europe’s ruling class.

Now, in the New York Times, Seoul Brother #1 Jay Caspian Kang, author of “The Unbearable Whiteness of Baseball,” uses this logic to warn the American Establishment about this (not exactly) Impending Threat from white male hipsters in the Pacific Northwest who own soccer scarves:

The Dark [i.e., white] Side of American Soccer Culture
On Sports
By JAY CASPIAN KANG JULY 12, 2016

For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end, there may be no form of porno­graphy more satisfying than watching a bunch of hard-drinking, pub-singing soccer fans with thick brogues beat the hell out of one another. The scene is almost always the same: Singing men in red advance upon singing men in blue. When they meet in the center of the frame, red shoves blue, fingers are pointed and then, inevitably, a green beer bottle flies across the screen and explodes on red’s head. The lines of singing men collapse into a squirming, punching mass and by the time the police trot up, usually dressed to the hilt in riot gear, both red and blue have gone scurrying away, leaving a few behind sitting on the ground in a bloody stupor. …

This summer, I attended a Seattle Sounders game with a soccer-fanatic friend of mine. Seattle has become one of the main breeding grounds for Europhilic American soccer culture, boasting the highest attendance numbers in Major League Soccer and the Emerald City Supporters (E.C.S.), one of the largest, rowdiest supporter organizations in the country. I was surprised to see small signs in the stands declaring that anyone who said anything racist would be removed from the stadium. Many stadiums in Europe carry such signage for obvious reasons, but why would they be needed in a supposedly progressive city on the West Coast of the United States?

… Then, about a half-hour before kickoff, E.C.S. arrived to the beating of drums. They marched a few hundred deep up the alleyway, holding banners and scarves above their heads. Some wore bandannas over their faces; some held up flares of green smoke; the vast majority were white. In throaty unison, they sang: “Take ’em all, Take ’em all, put ’em up against a wall and shoot ’em! Short and tall, watch ’em fall. Come on boys, take ’em all!” Each phrase was sung with a disorienting British lilt.

… Fans meet in the stands, decide to get organized (or “organised”) and then go about studying the rituals of their European counterparts, whether on trips abroad or, increasingly, through YouTube voyeurism. The E.C.S. march is taken from European traditions. Many of the songs, which often involve some reference to drinking, come from England. “Tifo” — a choreographed display involving gigantic cloth banners painted by volunteers from the Emerald City Supporters that are unfurled before every home match — comes from Italy.

The selective borrowing cannot be a matter of simple naïveté on the part of American fans. The ugly incident in Marseille this summer was widely reported by the international media, and it was only the latest iteration of a lengthy and well-documented history of racism among European soccer supporters. In his 1990 book “Among the Thugs,” Bill Buford followed around a group of Manchester United supporters, completely immersing himself in their rituals. He drank with them and followed along as they incited mayhem, trying to discover the origins of their rowdiness.

A more subversive interpretation of Buford’s book, which I read a quarter-century ago, is that he found participating in soccer hooliganism to be a blast.

… “Among the Thugs” is an incisively told, gripping account of years spent with violent men, but Buford’s occasional surprise at the racism he encountered never quite sat right with me. I wondered about the herculean denial required to ignore what was plainly in front of him. …

A reverse echo of iSteve’s Orwell quote: “To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle …”

In Seattle, I saw glimpses of the same denial. A march of mostly white men and women through the streets of Seattle singing “put ’em up against a wall and shoot ’em” is absurd on its face (oddly enough, the lyrics of the original song by Cock Sparrer, an English band from the Oi! punk scene, derisively refer to “Americans in dark glasses”). But when these lyrics are sung in pubs in England or at National Front meetings like the one Buford attended, it also raises the question: Who, exactly, is “ ’em?”

USA vs. Mexico game at Rose Bowl

Fortunately, Kang has a plan to prevent mobs of Portland / Seattle soccer snobs from launching the Trumpian Fourth Reich: American soccer fans must be browbeaten into rooting for the Mexican national team.

There is another sort of elision happening, one that’s more disturbing than middle-class Americans’ cosplaying working-class traditions from the Continent. The spread of Europhilic American soccer culture excludes much of the population of American soccer fans, a healthy portion of whom are Latin American immigrants. When the Mexican national team toured the United States last year, it drew in an average of 59,000 fans, roughly two-thirds more than the crowds that watch the United States men’s national team. … And yet, for the most part, M.L.S., the United States Soccer Federation and even the apparel and sports-drink companies that market to American soccer youth have drawn a line between whose attention is worth pursuing and whose is not.

It’s like how baseball cap retailers racistly refuse to intensively market Boston Red Sox caps in Staten Island. If you really think about it, you’d realize it has something to do with Trump.

There are now two separate American soccer cultures: one white, the other Latino. And while some of the Europhilia can be attributed to the relative newness of American soccer fandom (traditions, I suppose, have to start somewhere), it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe, or why the American media’s coverage of soccer culture, however scant, focuses on soccer bars in gentrified Brooklyn and fan organizations in majority-white cities like Portland, Ore., and Seattle.

If Alexi Lalas wants to know why so many Mexican-Americans choose not to root for the United States, he doesn’t need to look much farther than the crowds who gather in M.L.S. stadiums and bars and sing songs inspired by groups who shove black men off subway trains and travel to foreign cities to taunt Muslim immigrants. There is nothing wrong about borrowing what you love, but it should be called what it is — a dream of an ultimately monochromatic gathering in which thousands of white men can brawl (but safely and without guns!) in the streets and drunkenly sing Phil Collins melodies in pubs, lending a hooligan snarl to a white, suburban culture.

Obviously, the affectations of a few thousand fanboys in Portland and Seattle explain why an African-American lady my family knows in Pasadena, CA dreads a victory by the Mexican national team over the American team in the Rose Bowl around the corner from her house. The reason that for decades Mexicans have been celebrating each win over America by drunk-driving around and around her block for hours blasting “La Cucaracha” on their car horns is because they had time traveled to the future and seen that Pacific Northwestern hipsters would eventually get into English soccer.

As we all know, only white males have agency.

 
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  1. Bee says:

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.

    Well, Pence might have 1/16th English ancestry, at most – but whether it’s “no English ancestry” or “no significant English ancestry” – it is still interesting.

    http://ethnicelebs.com/mike-pence

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    P.S., I choose not to count the one weird case of 1840, when Martin Van Buren was nominated with no running mate nominated - and he was all Dutch and no English. But the lack of a Veep disqualifies it.
    , @syonredux

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.
     
    Trump is half-Scots.In the USA, Scots and Anglo-Saxon is a distinction without a difference.
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  2. Jefferson says:

    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

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    • Replies: @Hacienda
    "Caspia is a genus of marine snails, brackish water snails and freshwater snails with a gill and an operculum, an aquatic gastropod mollusk in the family Hydrobiidae. Caspia is the type genus of the Caspiidae, that is a synonym of Pyrgulinae."

    "The word Caspian is derived from the name of the Caspi, an ancient people who lived to the southwest of the sea in Transcaucasia. Strabo wrote that "to the country of the Albanians belongs also the territory called Caspiane, which was named after the Caspian tribe, as was also the sea; but the tribe has now disappeared".

    Jay shows the usual Korean indifference to using names that make some sense.
    Although he's actually an improvement from the John Kims, Tom Lees, etc.

    There a sizable demographic in Korea that sees white Americans as the lead Christian people and presume Christian charity in ALL things.

    Don't blame me, please. I've been ex-Korea most of my life. Didn't see this happening.

    , @syonredux

    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.
     
    Kang knows that White people don't really care about Asian-American self-pity. Therefore, he has to use Mestizo/Black proxies as a way to release his ethnic resentments.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Time for an immigration moratorium.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "I’m completely baffled. What is this guy’s point? Liking things you like is racist?"

    If you are white, you are practicing Hate-Like.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority."

    Or how both the number one and number two most prolific mass-shooters were Korean (until that guy shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando, that is). Talk about "stunted males".
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  3. gruff says:

    Cock Sparrer’s “Take ‘Em All” is an excellent song. Stirs the blood. (Their “England Belongs To Me” is equally rousing.)

    The lyrics of “Take ‘Em All” express the band’s frustrations with the record industry, which treated them quite poorly early in their career. The “Americans in dark glasses” are dishonest record company agents.

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    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    Nobody credited the origins of this song, that WW II British soldiers' folk song, "F*ck 'em all/F*ck 'em all/The blondes and the redheads and all/...." Which is usually bowdlerized to "Bless 'em all/Bless 'em all/The long and the short and the tall/...." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_%27Em_All
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  4. Jefferson says:

    “If Alexi Lalas wants to know why so many Mexican-Americans choose not to root for the United States, he doesn’t need to look much farther than the crowds who gather in M.L.S. stadiums and bars and sing songs inspired by groups who shove black men off subway trains and travel to foreign cities to taunt Muslim immigrants.”

    There is an epidemic of White guys shoving Black guys off subway trains? All of the Youtube and World Star Hip Hop videos I have seen of big city subway train violence show Blacks as the perpetrators who instigate the trouble first.

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  5. Daniel H says:

    Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise.

    >>For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end……<<

    I could make a rude joke about where the White American Male very often seems to be on top and probably will be for a long time, to the chagrin of Kang and his male ethnic affiliates, but this is a family blog, so I will refrain.

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    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    I take this as a reference to the frequent failures of the Korean missile program?
    , @SteveRogers42
    Hah! Their style -- no good!
    , @Anonymous Nephew

    "Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise."
     
    His forebears wuz Kangs !

    (Damn - just noticed Paul Walker's comment #123)

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  6. AndyBoy says:

    The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries.

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.

    Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy.

    I suspect pointing out the obvious sadism of anti-Whites may be a opening.

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    • Replies: @pink_point
    Aggressivity isn't "anti-White" inherently.
    It's a kind of energy.

    It needs a target to hit.
    If a group don't defend themselves, and turn the other cheeck once they are slapped, they'll become the target of choice.
    And, as long as they keep accepting being hit, hits will grow in intensity and number.

    , @gruff

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.
     
    You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. "Color blindness" is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one's race is the watchword of the day.

    This of course presents an opportunity.
    , @Corvinus
    Rory, you really need to take this quote into account--> “To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle".

    American sports is EVERY indication regarding "tribal instincts". Americans love winners. They generally do not care what race a team member is, so long as they go out there and perform and win championships. The Olympics in particular is proof positive how white American citizens feel about their non-white American citizens.

    Regarding those Mexicans who cheer on their "home" team at the expense of their "adopted" team when it comes to soccer, it is indicative of the global phenomenon. Those of German descent---you know, whites--also exhibit the same tendencies. Perhaps they should all be deported, too.

    http://fusion.net/story/64913/how-germans-feel-about-team-u-s-s-german-americans/

    “I don’t think it’s a problem,” said Isa Murry, a university student who is married to an American but proudly wore a white T-shirt with a red, gold, and black graphic diagonally across the front. “Right now there are so many players playing for [national] teams where they weren’t born."

    http://www.wpbf.com/news/soccer-fans-flock-to-american-german-club-to-cheer-for-team/26677694

    "Rolf Behr said admits he's torn. I was born in Germany and lived most of my life in the U.S, business life for sure and I plan to retire an American citizen. I tend to be more American than German actually," said Behr. I have German ancestors. I think it's a toss up. It's really hard," said Amy Richardson."

    "The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries."

    No, they need not be. Whites can make their own decisions regarding race, and do not need to be browbeaten by elites such as yourself who insist otherwise.

    "Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy."

    Maybe that someone is you. Why not give it a try?
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  7. @Daniel H
    Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise.

    >>For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end......<<

    I could make a rude joke about where the White American Male very often seems to be on top and probably will be for a long time, to the chagrin of Kang and his male ethnic affiliates, but this is a family blog, so I will refrain.

    I take this as a reference to the frequent failures of the Korean missile program?

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    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    I think he meant that Korean (vegetable) seeds find no purchase . . .

    https://youtu.be/eamzTS-8Unk
    , @slumber_j
    Particularly the Nodong?
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  8. Ivy says:

    Soccer fandom obviously is just part of the slippery pitch, er, slope, toward inevitable goosestepping thugs. Looking at the typical Seattle or Portland fan shouldn’t make one worry much, at least those among non-Manhattanites.

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    • Replies: @gruff
    Dude, slope is not the preferred nomenclature....
    , @Fredrik
    I heard Seattle and Portland are Republican bastions. Everyone will be voting for Trump.

    Seriously,
    if white people from Seattle and Portland are problematic then it's clear it's white people in general that are problematic. If not even the most liberal are good enough...
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  9. The Asian Ta Nehisi Coates?

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  10. BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!"

    Most Hispanics are not worried about the election outcome because most of them believe Hildabeast has this in the bag. Most African Americans are worried about the election outcome because they believe there are enough White supremacists in America to get Donald J. Trump elected president.
    , @AnotherDad

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!
     
    The funny thing is blacks are really riled up and ... on the wrong side.

    For the purposes of a poll, i'd say i'm "very worried", but it's not any immediate worry--i'll survive the Hillary embarrassment\debacle--i simply realize that my nation is in a death spiral, and i want my kids to inherit something at least remotely related to the nation i grew up in and Trump is probably the last chance to save that. Ergo Trump.

    But the thing is, personally--i don't compete with Hispanics. Their immediate effect on me is just higher welfare costs\higher taxes, more drunk driving on the highways that sort of crap. If a Mexican drunk doesn't kill me, they have little immediate impact on me.

    But blacks?--the Hispanic tidal wave is a disaster for them. They'll be ethnically cleansed from various neighborhoods. Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect. And within a generation or so, they are no longer going to be *the minority*--which is the font of all the goodies white people provide them. They'll be a 2nd banana minority that the Mexicans have zero interest in coddling.

    And yet they are worried about Trump. "Not too bright" pretty much captures it.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
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  11. Daniel H says:

    Kang and his superiors at the Times probably wish they could go after NASCAR with their spurious indictment, but the fact is the all white NASCAR gatherings are probably the most orderly, family safe, community safe, decent sports events in the world today. Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.

    How do hipsters feel about being made chumps by their own side?

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    Professional wrestling crowds aren't terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Unfortunately NASCAR can't wait to sell us out. NASCAR needs to be punished, or at least the witless fools that run their organization (probably a bunch of damn SJWs).
    , @AnotherDad

    Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.
     
    Once again demeaning golf as "not popular".
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  12. Flemur says:

    “For the stunted American male, “

    The Chinese? They’re pretty short.

    As we all know, only white males have agency.

    That’s why white people are bad.

    These goofy anti-white/virtue-signaling clickbait rants could be shortened to:

    “Only white people have agency, so white people are bad. But I’m different, so I’m good.”

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  13. “.. so terrified of populist organizations such as the BNP or the ascendant English Defence League that they instinctively cover up the crimes of barbaric foreigners.”

    I wish I understood the logic of your original assertion. Presumably, some of the victims of the Pakis would be daughters/sisters of the white soccer hooligans. If you were afraid of the hooligans, why would you engage in a cover up that could only worsen any class resentment they already had against you?

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    • Replies: @appalled
    ...because they want to keep importing the Pakistanis until whites are outnumbered to politically irrelevance and fear that full exposure would prematurely shut down the open-immigration pipeline. I wonder if Brexit would have happened if Rotherham had not happened? (priming the pump, as it were)

    It's the same strategy globalists are using against us in the U.S., but the plan is MUCH further along here.
    , @guest
    I don't get your point. You cover it up so they don't know, so there won't be any resentment.
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  14. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Just scrolled through some of the comments there — a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a badwhite…

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    • Replies: @Brutusale
    I just left a comment for the Kanger at the Old Gray Whore's site ending in "Preppy, heal thyself".
    , @Grumpy
    Indeed.

    I wonder how long it will be before all the oppressively white Swipple hobbies and hideouts are in the spotlight; craft breweries and organic farmers' markets may be next.
    , @MC
    The joke here is that these are hipster white dudes who probably wish they could enjoy more stereotypically male pursuits unironically, and only the Europhilic gloss on soccer makes it respectable in their circles.

    NASCAR is obviously off-limits. College football, ironically seems not to be much of thing with these guys, maybe because a lot of them went to Northeastern private schools. MMA, for some reason, seems to have some cachet with hipster dudes, maybe because it plays up the women's fights and is therefore "feminist"?
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Just scrolled through some of the comments there — a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a badwhite…"

    Ha ha! Thanks for the LOLz.

    Related to SWPL disingenuous White liberals, the local newspapers in Portland, whenever they cover a local concert or festival, will print photographs almost strictly of blacks and/or White female/black male couples. And when they instead draw theoretical denizens of Portland, it's always dark-skinned people and mixed-race couples, especially tons of White male/black female couples, LOL! -- I guess it's too hard to find any OBSERVABLE instance of this rarest hybrid in the wild, so they resort to drawings.

    As Portland gets Whiter literally by the hour, the SWPLs here are manically amplifying their anti-White pro-Diversity proclamations to drown out that little voice in their head saying: "I love White people, and that's why I choose to live around them!"

    This is a wonderful and hilarious time to be a Noticer in Portland, OR.
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  15. MEH 0910 says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roddy_Piper#National_Wrestling_Alliance_.281975.E2.80.931980.29

    By late 1975 and early 1976, Piper was a top villain for Mike and Gene LeBell’s NWA Hollywood Wrestling. In 1977–78, he also started to work for Roy Shire’s NWA San Francisco Wrestling in addition to remaining with the Los Angeles office, where Piper developed his Rowdy character. During this time, he made continuous insults directed at the area’s Mexican community; he later promised to amend by playing the Mexican national anthem on his bagpipes only to anger the fans further by playing “La Cucaracha” instead.[19]

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    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It's a highly non-ironic culture.
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  16. Bee says:
    @Bee
    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee -

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.

    Well, Pence might have 1/16th English ancestry, at most - but whether it's "no English ancestry" or "no significant English ancestry" - it is still interesting.

    http://ethnicelebs.com/mike-pence

    P.S., I choose not to count the one weird case of 1840, when Martin Van Buren was nominated with no running mate nominated – and he was all Dutch and no English. But the lack of a Veep disqualifies it.

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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The irony is that this sounds just like something you’d read at Radix, where everything from the latest Marvel movie to Pride parades are supposed to be “implicitly white” events of world-historical importance.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence.

    You see that more and more: it's an easy source for mainstream guys for interesting new ideas.

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  18. shk12344 says:

    If it’s White, it ain’t Right. By New York Times Writer.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "If it’s White, it ain’t Right. By New York Times Writer."

    Alway bet on Black. By a New York Times writer.
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  19. Huh- says:

    I’m completely baffled. What is this guy’s point? Liking things you like is racist?

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    "Liking things you like is racist?"

    If you are white ...

    , @Olorin
    It helps to understand that "racist" is code for "white."

    It's implicitly HBD, but the users don't realize it.

    Or they realize it and have to admit it in a counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-ironic way.

    "Oh yes, we recognize white guys are good at Thing-X-that-is-good. But that's not fair. Because equality. But it is recognizably white. And white = racist. And racist = white guys. Being that good thing. Which is bad because racist is bad. Because white is bad. But white guys are good at Thing X that is good. Which is bad. But my pointing that out is good."

    It's a wonder their heads don't implode like those Bill Plympton cartoon characters.

    Just, every time you see or hear the word "racist," change it to "white." Everything will make more sense, but you still won't be able to get all emotionally whipped up about it.

    Probably because you're racist.
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  20. @Anonymous
    The irony is that this sounds just like something you'd read at Radix, where everything from the latest Marvel movie to Pride parades are supposed to be "implicitly white" events of world-historical importance.

    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence.

    You see that more and more: it’s an easy source for mainstream guys for interesting new ideas.

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    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence

    Do you mean valence in the sense of chemistry, linguistics or psychology? Or maybe all three?

    Also, wasn't "Kang" the name of a high ranking Klingon character on Star Trek? We're living in the Matrix right?
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  21. syonredux says:
    @Bee
    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee -

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.

    Well, Pence might have 1/16th English ancestry, at most - but whether it's "no English ancestry" or "no significant English ancestry" - it is still interesting.

    http://ethnicelebs.com/mike-pence

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.

    Trump is half-Scots.In the USA, Scots and Anglo-Saxon is a distinction without a difference.

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    I wouldn't necessarily say there's no difference between Scots and English, but that's not my point. I am speaking strictly from a genealogical perspective.

    There've been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).
    , @guest
    There may not be much of a difference now; people nowadays don't draw much of a distinction between white people at all, unless they talk funny. But we're talking about the whole scope of presidential history. If you asked the Yankee ruling class in 1900, for instance, I'm pretty sure they'd have something to say about being lumped in with Micks n Macs.
    , @Hibernian
    The distinction between Aglo-Saxons and Anglo-Celts is a real one. See Hackett's "Albion's Seed."
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  22. @MEH 0910
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roddy_Piper#National_Wrestling_Alliance_.281975.E2.80.931980.29

    By late 1975 and early 1976, Piper was a top villain for Mike and Gene LeBell's NWA Hollywood Wrestling. In 1977–78, he also started to work for Roy Shire's NWA San Francisco Wrestling in addition to remaining with the Los Angeles office, where Piper developed his Rowdy character. During this time, he made continuous insults directed at the area's Mexican community; he later promised to amend by playing the Mexican national anthem on his bagpipes only to anger the fans further by playing "La Cucaracha" instead.[19]
     

    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It’s a highly non-ironic culture.

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    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It’s a highly non-ironic culture.
     
    Not surprising. I seem to recall reading that a sense of irony is linked to having a high IQ....
    , @Winthorp
    Imagine if these same irony-loving hipsters actually did what Kang suggests and became Mexican soccer fans. The Times would swiftly condemn them for cultural appropriation and situate their behavior in the problematic cultural context of blackface and college sombrero parties.
    , @IBC
    Clowns seem to be pretty popular in Mexico, but they used to be popular here too. Interestingly, I was told that Mexicans usually prefer American movies because too many Mexican movies are about social issues: If your own life's a "social issue," why would you pay money to go see it on the big screen?
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  23. Jefferson says:
    @shk12344
    If it's White, it ain't Right. By New York Times Writer.

    “If it’s White, it ain’t Right. By New York Times Writer.”

    Alway bet on Black. By a New York Times writer.

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  24. @Daniel H
    Kang and his superiors at the Times probably wish they could go after NASCAR with their spurious indictment, but the fact is the all white NASCAR gatherings are probably the most orderly, family safe, community safe, decent sports events in the world today. Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.

    How do hipsters feel about being made chumps by their own side?

    Professional wrestling crowds aren’t terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice.

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    "Professional wrestling crowds aren’t terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice."

    I hate most wrestling fans and this is coming from a wrestling fan. Most of them are fickle bandwagoners.
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  25. @Huh-
    I'm completely baffled. What is this guy's point? Liking things you like is racist?

    “Liking things you like is racist?”

    If you are white …

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    “Liking things you like is racist?”

    If you are white …
     
    The only unforgivable crime is thriving while white.
    , @Lagertha
    sheeesh! Did this guy never listen to Team Iceland's Viking War Chant (which is, actually, bs, but it still sound's good!) at the Euro? Someone please inform this author that Icelanders are white...and, like, yeah, EVERYONE, world-wide, French, Portuguese and German teams and fans, loved this very tribal chant.

    The fact that he did not even mention The Euro tells me he knows jack about soccer or soccer fans. What a dork. Probably never painted his face or chest for team colors, I'm guessing...nor got drunk and thought the 'big game' was awesome with his bros.

    If you just finished watching the Euro, you would know that soccer has very nationalistic, visceral, atavistic, behavior of fans at every game, and yes, there was bad-ass fan behavior also, on the streets of Paris.

    I mean, Oregon/Washington soccer leagues/MLS is still sort of "meh" to me. But, this author trying to draw some kind of strings of bad white behavior that may mirror British soccer hooliganism is really stretching it.

    Also, he must not co-opt and malign my Alexi, a family friend, into an article obviously, written by someone who not only does not understand soccer and its history, but has a personal axe to grind.

    OT: I ignore conspiracy theories (because they freak me out) BUT, the underlying idea that whites are difficult to control or be to be subjugated, is the sheer fact that they are the largest males...I think Danes are the tallest and huskiest. And, a long time ago, my son's South American soccer coach said that the reason that few Central Americans make it to the Premier League is their short height...or relative squatness compared to the long limbs of all the other men from all over the world.

    Now, my take on why Iceland lost: they were bigger (most of them) than the French players, but they lack tactical and footskills that all the Euro teams have. However, it is hard to be a world-class team if you come together for a short time to play together in a country of 330,000.
    But, they achieved a lot, and everybody loved them.

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  26. I can see how a Korean American might be scared of organized white people, and also why he would be fascinated with Seung-Hui Cho. Clearly, he wouldn’t be worried about Mexican peasants threatening his position in the world, but white people? Shee-it, negro kimchee, you don’t know what them crazy crackers might do, especially when they start wearing linens and burning things at night!

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  27. Hacienda says:
    @Jefferson
    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should't he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    “Caspia is a genus of marine snails, brackish water snails and freshwater snails with a gill and an operculum, an aquatic gastropod mollusk in the family Hydrobiidae. Caspia is the type genus of the Caspiidae, that is a synonym of Pyrgulinae.”

    “The word Caspian is derived from the name of the Caspi, an ancient people who lived to the southwest of the sea in Transcaucasia. Strabo wrote that “to the country of the Albanians belongs also the territory called Caspiane, which was named after the Caspian tribe, as was also the sea; but the tribe has now disappeared”.

    Jay shows the usual Korean indifference to using names that make some sense.
    Although he’s actually an improvement from the John Kims, Tom Lees, etc.

    There a sizable demographic in Korea that sees white Americans as the lead Christian people and presume Christian charity in ALL things.

    Don’t blame me, please. I’ve been ex-Korea most of my life. Didn’t see this happening.

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  28. syonredux says:
    @Jefferson
    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should't he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    Kang knows that White people don’t really care about Asian-American self-pity. Therefore, he has to use Mestizo/Black proxies as a way to release his ethnic resentments.

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    • Replies: @pink_point
    Were more people like you, maybe that would still augment human conflicts. I don't think thought-reading humans could live together forming societies ;)

    That's unsure. Sure is, the NYT's line would need an overhaul :D

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  29. Yep says:

    With all the BLM stuff in the news average whites are finally talking about iSteve stuff but so many of them are clueless about anti-white articles like this that appear in the press every day. They are clueless how deep and entrenched hatred of whites has become. I feel sorry for their children who’ll have to live in a much harsher world.

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    you're actually wrong about that. Many HS kids today are totally on-to the bs they've been fed for a decade. I am still around a lot of young people, and overhear their chatter about all the current events. They are very cynical and very good at hiding it, just like all teenagers. I'm lucky I am somewhat eccentric (hah!) and have good maternal instincts, so they tell me a lot of their thoughts - we have a pool and a great backyard, and summer is long.

    No, kids these days, are cynical for a reason - they know they are last on the list demographically. This is also my theory why the most emotional ones, the smartest ones, cross the line so easily to heroin and die. Ok, didn't mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what's goin' on.
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  31. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Just scrolled through some of the comments there -- a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a badwhite...

    I just left a comment for the Kanger at the Old Gray Whore’s site ending in “Preppy, heal thyself”.

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  32. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It's a highly non-ironic culture.

    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It’s a highly non-ironic culture.

    Not surprising. I seem to recall reading that a sense of irony is linked to having a high IQ….

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    "Fat Guy Falls Down" humor bridges all cultures and races.
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  33. MC says:

    “a dream of an ultimately monochromatic gathering in which thousands of white men can brawl (but safely and without guns!)”

    A major theme of the Left is pathologizing the perfectly normal impulses of white men.

    Brawling! Can you believe that white men like to fight?!?!

    Without guns! How racist that they want to have a little physical aggression without being killed!

    Ugh, white guys are the worst!!!

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  34. @syonredux

    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.
     
    Kang knows that White people don't really care about Asian-American self-pity. Therefore, he has to use Mestizo/Black proxies as a way to release his ethnic resentments.

    Were more people like you, maybe that would still augment human conflicts. I don’t think thought-reading humans could live together forming societies ;)

    That’s unsure. Sure is, the NYT’s line would need an overhaul :D

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  35. Bee says:
    @syonredux

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.
     
    Trump is half-Scots.In the USA, Scots and Anglo-Saxon is a distinction without a difference.

    I wouldn’t necessarily say there’s no difference between Scots and English, but that’s not my point. I am speaking strictly from a genealogical perspective.

    There’ve been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).

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    I wouldn’t necessarily say there’s no difference between Scots and English,
     
    In the UK, there's a difference. In the USA, there's no difference.

    There’ve been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).
     
    The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry.
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  36. This soccer story seems to have all the factual content of something by Hunter S. Thompson. Guy sees some soccer fans acting vaguely like European-style hooligans, and lets his imagination and Hunter College Modern Lit Seminar mojo do the rest. Not worth reacting to.

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  37. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    A major difference between the US and Europe is that almost every European country has a rudimentary set of localist/nationalist organizations for young men already in place due to the more organic nature of sports over there.

    After the latest(?) Brussels attack:

    “Belgian cuck gets knocked out for supporting Muslims who bombed Brussels”

    Brussels mayor deplores ‘scoundrels’ who disrupted Place de la Bourse

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    The Belgian cuck getting knocked down is superb. Poetry! The way his glasses fly away is a nice cartoon-like touch as well.

    As I tried to explain to a friend, when you get right down to it, who is likely to stop another terrorist attack - a fat liberal at a useless, passive candlelit vigil or the guy who knocked him down?

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  38. Grumpy says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Just scrolled through some of the comments there -- a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a badwhite...

    Indeed.

    I wonder how long it will be before all the oppressively white Swipple hobbies and hideouts are in the spotlight; craft breweries and organic farmers’ markets may be next.

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    don't forget: Yoga retreats; Pilates; rock climbing; hiking while wearing Patagonia; paddle boarding; kayaking; windsurfing (who does that anymore?); bike racing; polo; raising chickens in your yard; Pokemon Go...list is too long. Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!
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  39. Jefferson says:
    @E. Harding
    BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!

    “BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!”

    Most Hispanics are not worried about the election outcome because most of them believe Hildabeast has this in the bag. Most African Americans are worried about the election outcome because they believe there are enough White supremacists in America to get Donald J. Trump elected president.

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  40. @AndyBoy
    The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries.

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren't "racist" and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to "color blindness".

    Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy.

    I suspect pointing out the obvious sadism of anti-Whites may be a opening.

    Aggressivity isn’t “anti-White” inherently.
    It’s a kind of energy.

    It needs a target to hit.
    If a group don’t defend themselves, and turn the other cheeck once they are slapped, they’ll become the target of choice.
    And, as long as they keep accepting being hit, hits will grow in intensity and number.

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  41. Yak-15 says:

    Few things are more odious than the overly smug, pretentious white American soccer fan who thinks its worldly to watch futbol and belt out pub songs wearing scarves.

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  42. MC says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Just scrolled through some of the comments there -- a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a badwhite...

    The joke here is that these are hipster white dudes who probably wish they could enjoy more stereotypically male pursuits unironically, and only the Europhilic gloss on soccer makes it respectable in their circles.

    NASCAR is obviously off-limits. College football, ironically seems not to be much of thing with these guys, maybe because a lot of them went to Northeastern private schools. MMA, for some reason, seems to have some cachet with hipster dudes, maybe because it plays up the women’s fights and is therefore “feminist”?

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    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512
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  43. @E. Harding
    BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!

    The funny thing is blacks are really riled up and … on the wrong side.

    For the purposes of a poll, i’d say i’m “very worried”, but it’s not any immediate worry–i’ll survive the Hillary embarrassment\debacle–i simply realize that my nation is in a death spiral, and i want my kids to inherit something at least remotely related to the nation i grew up in and Trump is probably the last chance to save that. Ergo Trump.

    But the thing is, personally–i don’t compete with Hispanics. Their immediate effect on me is just higher welfare costs\higher taxes, more drunk driving on the highways that sort of crap. If a Mexican drunk doesn’t kill me, they have little immediate impact on me.

    But blacks?–the Hispanic tidal wave is a disaster for them. They’ll be ethnically cleansed from various neighborhoods. Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect. And within a generation or so, they are no longer going to be *the minority*–which is the font of all the goodies white people provide them. They’ll be a 2nd banana minority that the Mexicans have zero interest in coddling.

    And yet they are worried about Trump. “Not too bright” pretty much captures it.

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    "Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect."

    Even though California has a large poor Black underclass population, you don't see too many Blacks working jobs like valet and dishwasher for example.

    Blacks on average don't do these jobs because they are too middle class and these jobs are beneath them, they don't do these jobs because they fit the lazy Negro stereotype.

    The Black unemployment rate is higher than that of other racial groups, so you would think Blacks would be less picky about jobs.
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  44. @gruff
    Cock Sparrer's "Take 'Em All" is an excellent song. Stirs the blood. (Their "England Belongs To Me" is equally rousing.)

    The lyrics of "Take 'Em All" express the band's frustrations with the record industry, which treated them quite poorly early in their career. The "Americans in dark glasses" are dishonest record company agents.

    Nobody credited the origins of this song, that WW II British soldiers’ folk song, “F*ck ‘em all/F*ck ‘em all/The blondes and the redheads and all/….” Which is usually bowdlerized to “Bless ‘em all/Bless ‘em all/The long and the short and the tall/….” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_%27Em_All

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    This song needs to be rewritten with 'Deport 'em All' as the anchor lyric.

    We'll sing it as we march Caspian Kang to his appointment with a cargo ship back to Korea.
    , @gruff
    Amazing. I've been listening to Sparrer for years and I never knew that. Thanks!
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  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Couldn’t that be a quiz item for Charles Murray’s Coming Apart questionnaire: “Is ‘The Firm’ a 1) John Grisham thriller novel, or 2) Gary Oldman hooligan film

    Ironically I think most young aggro Korean-Am dudes would be more familiar with the latter (vice versa for their 1st-gen parents). p.s. new Android autocorrect tries to change “Grisham” to “Grievance”

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  46. Jefferson says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Professional wrestling crowds aren't terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice.

    “Professional wrestling crowds aren’t terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice.”

    I hate most wrestling fans and this is coming from a wrestling fan. Most of them are fickle bandwagoners.

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    I dunno. I am friends with Bob Backlund and he was an awesome wrestler and a great inspiration to HS wrestlers. I bought his book!
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  47. syonredux says:

    Looking forward to Kang’s sequel article: The Unbearable Whiteness of Rowing

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    If Olivia Nuzzi weren't white herself, she might have taken that tack against Hope Hicks, who rowed in college.
    https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/753305951957094401
    , @Lagertha
    best laugh of the night! Can we just get Team Iceland and their drum in the shell?
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  48. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps. His prideful interest in Seung-Hui Cho is creepy.

    About his previous column, I sense a resurgence of interest in baseball despite its evil, shameful, disgusting whiteness.

    Kang can suck it.

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    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.
    , @Twinkie

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.
     
    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that's probably selection bias on my part). I've run into very few "social justice warriors" of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs - at least from my experience - tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked "Portlandia" a long time ago.
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    Oh! Oh! I am dying!
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  50. @Jefferson
    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should't he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    Time for an immigration moratorium.

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  52. Jefferson says:
    @AnotherDad

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!
     
    The funny thing is blacks are really riled up and ... on the wrong side.

    For the purposes of a poll, i'd say i'm "very worried", but it's not any immediate worry--i'll survive the Hillary embarrassment\debacle--i simply realize that my nation is in a death spiral, and i want my kids to inherit something at least remotely related to the nation i grew up in and Trump is probably the last chance to save that. Ergo Trump.

    But the thing is, personally--i don't compete with Hispanics. Their immediate effect on me is just higher welfare costs\higher taxes, more drunk driving on the highways that sort of crap. If a Mexican drunk doesn't kill me, they have little immediate impact on me.

    But blacks?--the Hispanic tidal wave is a disaster for them. They'll be ethnically cleansed from various neighborhoods. Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect. And within a generation or so, they are no longer going to be *the minority*--which is the font of all the goodies white people provide them. They'll be a 2nd banana minority that the Mexicans have zero interest in coddling.

    And yet they are worried about Trump. "Not too bright" pretty much captures it.

    “Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect.”

    Even though California has a large poor Black underclass population, you don’t see too many Blacks working jobs like valet and dishwasher for example.

    Blacks on average don’t do these jobs because they are too middle class and these jobs are beneath them, they don’t do these jobs because they fit the lazy Negro stereotype.

    The Black unemployment rate is higher than that of other racial groups, so you would think Blacks would be less picky about jobs.

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    Hispanic immigrants did drive Blacks out of sanitation/janitorial jobs in CA a couple of decades ago. The jobs were unionized, and employers brought in Hispanic hires as a union-busting move.
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  53. @Daniel H
    Kang and his superiors at the Times probably wish they could go after NASCAR with their spurious indictment, but the fact is the all white NASCAR gatherings are probably the most orderly, family safe, community safe, decent sports events in the world today. Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.

    How do hipsters feel about being made chumps by their own side?

    Unfortunately NASCAR can’t wait to sell us out. NASCAR needs to be punished, or at least the witless fools that run their organization (probably a bunch of damn SJWs).

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    Actually, NASCAR's CEO, Brian France has endorsed Trump:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-nascar-endorsement-20160309-story.html
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  54. Lugash says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    Nobody credited the origins of this song, that WW II British soldiers' folk song, "F*ck 'em all/F*ck 'em all/The blondes and the redheads and all/...." Which is usually bowdlerized to "Bless 'em all/Bless 'em all/The long and the short and the tall/...." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_%27Em_All

    This song needs to be rewritten with ‘Deport ‘em All’ as the anchor lyric.

    We’ll sing it as we march Caspian Kang to his appointment with a cargo ship back to Korea.

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  55. @E. Harding
    BTW, Steve, have you seen this great new poll?:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    The Hispanic Electoral Tidal Wave of Rage has been delayed for another four years. Blacks are really riled up, though, especially young female ones!

    Thanks.

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  56. @Daniel H
    Kang and his superiors at the Times probably wish they could go after NASCAR with their spurious indictment, but the fact is the all white NASCAR gatherings are probably the most orderly, family safe, community safe, decent sports events in the world today. Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.

    How do hipsters feel about being made chumps by their own side?

    Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.

    Once again demeaning golf as “not popular”.

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    I caddied for 8 years as a youth. Saw golf very up close. I stand by my observation that the average IQ of the NASCAR crowd is significantly higher than that of the gold crowd.
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  57. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s the sort of article that makes me think, “Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank.” And then I realize I can’t call him a Korean racial slur because I don’t know any. I’ve never heard one.

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    "...don't know any slur by which to call a Korean..."

    Happily for you, there is a suitable slur ready to hand (tongue?): "gook!" As in "Kang is an ignorant gook."

    The Vietnamese were often annoyed that ignorant Americans would confuse them with Koreans when it came to slurring them!
    , @EH
    Careful about insulting a Korean SJW, he's's -- I mean it's a slippery slope.
    , @Anonymous
    Ethnic slurs often involve the food of the particular group. Spaghetti-bender, burrito-eater, etc. Even Yankee comes from an early American anti-Dutch slur by English ("John Cheese" or "Jan Kees"). So, I once heard a former military guy refer to his old Kia car as a Kimchi clunker. That all I could come up with. There probably aren't many or any ethnic slur terms for Koreans because the only group which doesn't like them are blacks.
    , @Brutusale
    You've probably already used it and don't know know it! "Gook" came from Hanguk during the Korean War.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hanguk
    , @iffen
    Call him a failed Chinaman.
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  58. @Alec Leamas
    I take this as a reference to the frequent failures of the Korean missile program?

    I think he meant that Korean (vegetable) seeds find no purchase . . .

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  59. syonredux says:
    @Jefferson
    "Their kids will have a very tough time getting non-government jobs because they are inferior workers to the Hispanics in pretty much every respect."

    Even though California has a large poor Black underclass population, you don't see too many Blacks working jobs like valet and dishwasher for example.

    Blacks on average don't do these jobs because they are too middle class and these jobs are beneath them, they don't do these jobs because they fit the lazy Negro stereotype.

    The Black unemployment rate is higher than that of other racial groups, so you would think Blacks would be less picky about jobs.

    Hispanic immigrants did drive Blacks out of sanitation/janitorial jobs in CA a couple of decades ago. The jobs were unionized, and employers brought in Hispanic hires as a union-busting move.

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    'Hispanic immigrants did drive Blacks out of sanitation/janitorial jobs in CA a couple of decades ago.'

    A couple of decades ago.

    And they still haven't worked out how the Democratic Party is playing 'The Immigration Game' against them.
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  60. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @MC
    The joke here is that these are hipster white dudes who probably wish they could enjoy more stereotypically male pursuits unironically, and only the Europhilic gloss on soccer makes it respectable in their circles.

    NASCAR is obviously off-limits. College football, ironically seems not to be much of thing with these guys, maybe because a lot of them went to Northeastern private schools. MMA, for some reason, seems to have some cachet with hipster dudes, maybe because it plays up the women's fights and is therefore "feminist"?

    Most people don’t live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it’s going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women’s fighting.

    One advantage of women’s MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday’s card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women’s ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday’s headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

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    Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like watching women get hit.
    , @MC
    "Most people don’t live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it’s going to be a local pro team."

    I think this is probably true of urban areas like Seattle and Portland (which have colleges but are not "college towns"). But obviously someone is going to college football games, and it isn't just students, so a lot of people live where their college is. This is perhaps an urban/suburban/rural divide, which cleaves along some of the same hipster/blue/red state lines. Also may be a coastal thing; Pac-12 and ACC football fans aren't nearly as intense as fans in the Midwest/South/Texas.
    , @guest
    "also, the women tend to be attractive."

    No.

    For play-along sake, compared to whom? Bodybuilders?
    , @Twinkie

    One advantage of women’s MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men.
     
    That is not so. Male bantamweight (135 lb) fighters are far more active than femalebantam weight (also 135 lb) fighters. Have you seen Dominick Cruz's footwork? No female fighter moves like that, not even Holly Holm.

    And also, the women tend to be attractive.
     
    Again, no. Most female fighters look butch and mannish.

    But the problem is that women’s ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean).
     
    Again, not the case. If you looked at the UFC knockout statistics by weight class, the heavier weights (especially heavyweights and light heavyweights) have greater percentages of KOs. Even male bantamweights don't have many KOs. There are even fewer among female bantamweights (and fewer still among female strawweights/115 lb).

    There has been a tremendous increase in the athletic talent and skill levels of female fighters in the last ten years or so. BUT, even today, most female MMA fighters have poor striking skills compared to their male counterparts. Most tend to do a lot of arm punches, which generate little power.

    Amanda Nunez, who just beat Miesha Tate in the video you linked above, does sit on her punches better than most and generate decent power, but her problem is that her footwork is very simple. She does not cut angles much or do head movement; she tries to overwhelm her opponents with her power, at which she was successful against Miesha Tate, because Nunez is a FAST starter while Tate is a notoriously slow starter. And even then it was accumulation of damage and eventually the choke/neck crank that finished the fight.

    Holly Holm is just about the only female fighter at 135 with excellent footwork, but then again she is a multiple boxing and kickboxing champion (Holm, though, is not a power puncher either; she sets up her powerful left roundhouse kick with her punches; she is also very good at retreating while cutting an angle and countering with her hands, generating power through a collision rather than with only her own hip rotation).

    I saw Saturday’s card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring
     
    Do you know much about grappling? There was a lot of interesting technical elements in most of the fights.

    By the way, last week there was a great example of a nearly perfectly executed punch, dropping an opponent with seemingly-unexpected power (Doo Ho Choi vs. Thiago Tavares; video here: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-doo-ho-choi-crushes-thiago-tavares-with-first-round-tko-video-070816). If you look at that video, you see a lanky 145 lb fighter generate a lot of power with correct hip rotation, sitting on the feet, and proper punch extension (all the while not leaning forward too much with his head and also exiting away quickly after making impact to avoid a counter... though he did not exit at an off-angle, hence "nearly" perfect comment above).

    I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.
     
    Boxing (which has thicker gloves) produces far more brain damage than MMA does, and you can't grapple with headgear. That padding on the fist is not designed to protect opponents - it's designed to protect your fist, so you can punch harder.

    In the early UFCs, a lot of fighters had to drop out of tournaments because gloves were not allowed and they ended up breaking their fists/wrists punching heads. Human cranium is a lot harder than the fist/wrist, and without heavy taping/gloves, punching someone's skull with your fists is a bad idea (which is one of the reasons why JKD Concepts, for example, teaches finger jabs to the eyes and/or straight blasts into the clinch range and doing most damage with harder elbows and knees in a street fight).

    In any case, watching women's MMA is like watching women's basketball. Slower, weaker, and less skilled than male counterparts. I do watch it, because I watch all combat sports. I *always* learn something new in every fight and go over them with my children.
    , @Discard
    You don't have to be a graduate of your local college to root for it's team. Los Angeles is full of USC and UCLA fans who went to neither, or any, college.
    , @Brutusale
    I dunno, Dave, she got hit in the face about 25 times and still wasn't out. Those aren't 8 oz. gloves they're wearing.
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  61. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
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    Looking forward to Kang's sequel article: The Unbearable Whiteness of Rowing

    If Olivia Nuzzi weren’t white herself, she might have taken that tack against Hope Hicks, who rowed in college.

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    I was wondering when the pitchforks or bitchforks would come out for Hope Hicks. She was a Ralph Lauren (a great guy & business genius) model; smart, capable...but her current job will make her into a bigger target than she ever imagined. I am really rooting for her to persevere, which she will do with aplomb.
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  62. syonredux says:
    @Bee
    I wouldn't necessarily say there's no difference between Scots and English, but that's not my point. I am speaking strictly from a genealogical perspective.

    There've been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).

    I wouldn’t necessarily say there’s no difference between Scots and English,

    In the UK, there’s a difference. In the USA, there’s no difference.

    There’ve been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).

    The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry.

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    Bill Clinton is 100% African-American, the son of share-cropping parents descended directly from African slaves - Bill is our 1st black president - no British heritage at all - just African.

    Bill's affair with Halle Berry proves it.

    Oh, and David Justice divorced her because of Halle and Bill.

    Then Halle married Eric Benet. But Eric had to divorce Halle after he caught Bill and Halle in flagrante delicto.

    So Bill is Black.

    Okay, I made all that stuff up. I just want to read Truth's idiotic response to it.
    , @Jefferson
    "The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry."

    Surprisingly America has elected a Black president before a Jewish or Italian president.

    Argentina and Brazil have elected an Italian president before The U.S.

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  63. (I’m sorry this is in French, but it’s time someone enrich the diversity in this monochromatic gathering).

    http://www.tuxboard.com/gaspard-proust-concert-acdc-diams/

    In the first minute or two of this video, Gaspard Proust, an edgy Swiss comedian of Jewish and East European origins, reports on the AC/DC concert held at the Stade de France in the northern banlieue of St Denis, in the 93 département, which has become majority Arab and African.

    The irony is thick in his report (to the usual all-white panel of media people and celebrities seen on French TV). He starts by saying it was awesome, unbelievable music, not so much a concert but a mass, but with rock instead of Latin. Taking the subway because he can’t take an Uber, Proust is astonished by the all-white crowd filling the train. It’s as if Charles Martel had come through the line just an hour beforehand! The 93 department had filled its quota of white people for the month! Clearly, if you want a place where you have diversity, parity, and “vivre ensemble” (“live together”, the bs phrase used as an ideal whenever ethnic issues are a topic)… do not go to an AC/DC concert! Audience laughs and applauds. And then, as the lily-white panel smiles uncomfortably, the punchline — Yeah, terrible lack of diversity, but at the same time… I’m tempted to say, as a result, … it felt so good!

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    I saw the same effect in Toronto when a hockey or baseball game brought White people downtown from the outer suburbs. Suddenly the demographic mix goes back to what it was in the '70s or '80s.
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  64. syonredux says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t like watching women get hit.

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    Low IQ people like women's MMA for the same reason such people stage pit bull or cock fights.

    I think high IQ SWPLs like women's MMA for the same reason they go for roller derby, excessive tattoos, unpleasantly cut bangs on women, and trashy culture in general: if something is obviously beautiful, good, pleasant, inspiring, ennobling, etc., then there's no cultural cachet to be gained by liking it.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I don't mind seeing them get hit if they're not getting hurt too bad, but the beating Miesha Tate took wasn't fun to watch. That's why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Col. Jeff Cooper observed that fighting is beneath the dignity of a woman, except when she's fighting for her life. Even in warrior cultures like the vikings, women who would get into brawls were considered unruly and wanton.
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  65. syonredux says:

    There are now two separate American soccer cultures: one white, the other Latino. And while some of the Europhilia can be attributed to the relative newness of American soccer fandom (traditions, I suppose, have to start somewhere), it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe, or why the American media’s coverage of soccer culture, however scant, focuses on soccer bars in gentrified Brooklyn and fan organizations in majority-white cities like Portland, Ore., and Seattle.

    Dunno, Anglo-American soccer fans identifying more with Europe than with Latin America seems pretty natural to me.I mean,Kang, this may come as a shock, but Anglo-America and Latin America have very little in common with one another. Indeed, that’s one of the big reasons why large scale immigration from Latin America is a really bad idea.

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    It's an odd response isn't it?

    Any reasonable, sane person might think it might have to do with the fact that Portland hipsters might *like* sitting in pubs and they might sing songs in English, not Spanish, for the obvious reason.

    They might take the fact that the Portland hipsters grabbed a tradition from Italy when it suited them as evidence that they are not, in fact, ultimately obsessed with cosplaying Britain out of latent White nationalism.

    This guy, apparently not.

    Generally, about Kang's motives, I wonder if a downside of East Asians being more convergent with middle class, higher education, sensitive (in a mostly positive way) Whites is that it seems like it would also make it likely some of those East Asians are, well, very, very, very touchy about anything those Whites might do that they might imagine might possibly not include them.

    (Possibly particularly Christian Koreans might be the worst for this, as the most culturally convergent group, generally?)

    Heirs to the country club panic and resentment. Only in Kang's case it's the rather more downscale football club, fitting with our more downwardly mobile times for the White middle class.
    , @Discard
    Judging by Mr Kang, I'd say that immigration from Korea isn't a very good idea either.
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  66. Mr. Blank says:

    For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end,

    Do our betters have any idea how inflammatory this kind of thing sounds to people who are not schooled in SJW academic cant?

    I read stuff like this and I swear I sometimes wonder if there’s a concerted effort among elites to goad whites into a racist backlash on purpose, so the “backlash” can then be used to justify sterner measures. I’m well aware of how goofy that sounds, but yeesh. Sometimes I really wonder.

    Glenn Reynolds is right: The current “leaders” of the West, whether cultural or political or what have you, must be the most incompetent leadership class since the waning days of Rome.

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    >Glenn Reynolds is right: The current “leaders” of the West, whether cultural or political or what have you, must be the most incompetent leadership class since the waning days of Rome.<

    yep the "ruining class"
    , @guest
    They do and they don't know how inflammatory it is. They do, because it is intentionally written to garner attention. They don't, because they don't care about your reaction. You're just a pleb.
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  67. Zoodles says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Kang just hates white people, that's all. I've met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps. His prideful interest in Seung-Hui Cho is creepy.

    About his previous column, I sense a resurgence of interest in baseball despite its evil, shameful, disgusting whiteness.

    Kang can suck it.

    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.

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    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.
     
    Because Koreans tend to be the most extreme among East Asians whatever they do. When they go full-SWJ, they can be the most shrill of the lot. On theother hand, when they decide to go full-patriotic, they become Navy SEALs, Green Berets, etc. (the modal surname for each graduating class at West Point is often "Kim").

    For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country, with the highest intermarrage rate with whites. Though things are changing with the younger cohorts, the likes of Kang are rare among them.
    , @WhatEvvs
    Totally agree. I don't have the same problem at all w/Chinese Americans. I did know one Chinese chick who was of this type but she was batshit, not representative. Koreans are very bad-tempered aggressive people in general.
    , @Jasper Been
    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.
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  68. Cagey Beast says: • Website
    @European-American
    (I'm sorry this is in French, but it's time someone enrich the diversity in this monochromatic gathering).

    http://www.tuxboard.com/gaspard-proust-concert-acdc-diams/

    In the first minute or two of this video, Gaspard Proust, an edgy Swiss comedian of Jewish and East European origins, reports on the AC/DC concert held at the Stade de France in the northern banlieue of St Denis, in the 93 département, which has become majority Arab and African.

    The irony is thick in his report (to the usual all-white panel of media people and celebrities seen on French TV). He starts by saying it was awesome, unbelievable music, not so much a concert but a mass, but with rock instead of Latin. Taking the subway because he can't take an Uber, Proust is astonished by the all-white crowd filling the train. It's as if Charles Martel had come through the line just an hour beforehand! The 93 department had filled its quota of white people for the month! Clearly, if you want a place where you have diversity, parity, and "vivre ensemble" ("live together", the bs phrase used as an ideal whenever ethnic issues are a topic)... do not go to an AC/DC concert! Audience laughs and applauds. And then, as the lily-white panel smiles uncomfortably, the punchline -- Yeah, terrible lack of diversity, but at the same time... I'm tempted to say, as a result, ... it felt so good!

    I saw the same effect in Toronto when a hockey or baseball game brought White people downtown from the outer suburbs. Suddenly the demographic mix goes back to what it was in the ’70s or ’80s.

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    Or back in the pre-gentrification days during a Black Hawks game at the old Chicago Stadium. The Stadium was out on the West Side, which is Chicago's version of the South Bronx.
    , @MoodyMillennial
    Indeed. I live in Toronto and have noticed this too. I'm often astounded at how much more fit, attractive and simply pleasant the white women from the outer burbs and surrounding small towns are over the female denizens of Toronto proper. Living in a city full of South Asian, Asian and Middle Eastern, and feminist pear-shaped and/or horse-faced White women, I often forget just how attractive your run-of -the-mill non defective White woman is. I'm sure many White women in Toronto who meet the latter description (and even those who meet the former) would observe similar traits in the men who flock to the city for sports events, but do not live here.

    That may sound harsh, but sadly it's true. I'm tired of not believing my lying eyes!
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  69. Olorin says:
    @Huh-
    I'm completely baffled. What is this guy's point? Liking things you like is racist?

    It helps to understand that “racist” is code for “white.”

    It’s implicitly HBD, but the users don’t realize it.

    Or they realize it and have to admit it in a counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-ironic way.

    “Oh yes, we recognize white guys are good at Thing-X-that-is-good. But that’s not fair. Because equality. But it is recognizably white. And white = racist. And racist = white guys. Being that good thing. Which is bad because racist is bad. Because white is bad. But white guys are good at Thing X that is good. Which is bad. But my pointing that out is good.”

    It’s a wonder their heads don’t implode like those Bill Plympton cartoon characters.

    Just, every time you see or hear the word “racist,” change it to “white.” Everything will make more sense, but you still won’t be able to get all emotionally whipped up about it.

    Probably because you’re racist.

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  70. appalled says:
    @Sid Storch
    ".. so terrified of populist organizations such as the BNP or the ascendant English Defence League that they instinctively cover up the crimes of barbaric foreigners."

    I wish I understood the logic of your original assertion. Presumably, some of the victims of the Pakis would be daughters/sisters of the white soccer hooligans. If you were afraid of the hooligans, why would you engage in a cover up that could only worsen any class resentment they already had against you?

    …because they want to keep importing the Pakistanis until whites are outnumbered to politically irrelevance and fear that full exposure would prematurely shut down the open-immigration pipeline. I wonder if Brexit would have happened if Rotherham had not happened? (priming the pump, as it were)

    It’s the same strategy globalists are using against us in the U.S., but the plan is MUCH further along here.

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  71. newrouter says:
    @Mr. Blank

    For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end,
     
    Do our betters have any idea how inflammatory this kind of thing sounds to people who are not schooled in SJW academic cant?

    I read stuff like this and I swear I sometimes wonder if there's a concerted effort among elites to goad whites into a racist backlash on purpose, so the "backlash" can then be used to justify sterner measures. I'm well aware of how goofy that sounds, but yeesh. Sometimes I really wonder.

    Glenn Reynolds is right: The current "leaders" of the West, whether cultural or political or what have you, must be the most incompetent leadership class since the waning days of Rome.

    >Glenn Reynolds is right: The current “leaders” of the West, whether cultural or political or what have you, must be the most incompetent leadership class since the waning days of Rome.<

    yep the "ruining class"

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  72. Georg E says:

    This guy has nothing better to do than complain about how Portland, a town whose only major pro sports team – the Blazers – hasn’t won a championship since Bill Walton was a team member, likes the European soccer tradition, and gets mildly rowdy on its behalf? Why not criticize Napa Valley for not making Tequila or sake? Moronic. Anecdote warning: the biggest Portland Timbers fan I know is Filipino. But maybe Filipinos are the intellectual puppets of the Western elite – or something.

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  73. gruff says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    Nobody credited the origins of this song, that WW II British soldiers' folk song, "F*ck 'em all/F*ck 'em all/The blondes and the redheads and all/...." Which is usually bowdlerized to "Bless 'em all/Bless 'em all/The long and the short and the tall/...." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_%27Em_All

    Amazing. I’ve been listening to Sparrer for years and I never knew that. Thanks!

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  74. Twinkie says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Kang just hates white people, that's all. I've met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps. His prideful interest in Seung-Hui Cho is creepy.

    About his previous column, I sense a resurgence of interest in baseball despite its evil, shameful, disgusting whiteness.

    Kang can suck it.

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.

    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that’s probably selection bias on my part). I’ve run into very few “social justice warriors” of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs – at least from my experience – tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked “Portlandia” a long time ago.

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    Your analysis of Seattle YT's is spot on.
    , @Jefferson
    "And those few Asian SJWs – at least from my experience – tend to be quite zealous."

    The Asian version of Marc Lamont Hill is Jose Antonio Vargas.

    He used to only talk about immigration, but now he is sticking his nose into the White cop/Black male confrontation phenomenon.

    Asian Social Justice Warriors like Mr. Vargas must feel extremely frustrated that the vast majority of race conversations in America do not include talking about Asians.

    , @European-American
    I doubt Kang hates white people more than your basic Brooklyn hipster does. He just sees a cultural trend and takes part in it, and does it fairly well. He's just trying to fit in, cut him some slack :) Blame the trend, not the trendster.

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies
    , @WhatEvvs
    No doubt there will be more Asian SJW's as this movement metatasizes, but I think Kang is not a true SJW although he shares language & memes with them. I think he is simply an embittered racist. I'm not cutting SJW's slack, just saying that most of them are young fools who will go on to do something else in 10 years. He won't. Kang will continue down this path of either self-destruction (I hope), or something worse. He is vile.

    I agree with you that hipster soccer fandom isn't really a breeding pool for nationalism. I'm puzzled by this whole discussion, so I stayed out of it. Soccer nationalism comes from nationalism which comes from organic deep roots. Without those roots, it's all just theatrics.
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  75. I’m sure they originally looked to the soccer fan cultures south of the border to imitate, but they realized that it would be cultural appropriation, which is a mortal sin in Portlandia. So they were forced to look to their cousins across the pond and into their own roots. No doubt it is a venal sin of class appropriation.
    But to give credit to Kang, such trivial cultural linkages are ultimately dangerous for the status quo…

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  76. Veracitor says:
    @Anon
    It's the sort of article that makes me think, "Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank." And then I realize I can't call him a Korean racial slur because I don't know any. I've never heard one.

    “…don’t know any slur by which to call a Korean…”

    Happily for you, there is a suitable slur ready to hand (tongue?): “gook!” As in “Kang is an ignorant gook.”

    The Vietnamese were often annoyed that ignorant Americans would confuse them with Koreans when it came to slurring them!

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  77. MC says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    “Most people don’t live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it’s going to be a local pro team.”

    I think this is probably true of urban areas like Seattle and Portland (which have colleges but are not “college towns”). But obviously someone is going to college football games, and it isn’t just students, so a lot of people live where their college is. This is perhaps an urban/suburban/rural divide, which cleaves along some of the same hipster/blue/red state lines. Also may be a coastal thing; Pac-12 and ACC football fans aren’t nearly as intense as fans in the Midwest/South/Texas.

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    Where there are no pro football teams, and the local college team is good, that's the hot ticket.
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  78. Twinkie says:
    @Zoodles
    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.

    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.

    Because Koreans tend to be the most extreme among East Asians whatever they do. When they go full-SWJ, they can be the most shrill of the lot. On theother hand, when they decide to go full-patriotic, they become Navy SEALs, Green Berets, etc. (the modal surname for each graduating class at West Point is often “Kim”).

    For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country, with the highest intermarrage rate with whites. Though things are changing with the younger cohorts, the likes of Kang are rare among them.

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    "For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian"

    Filipinos are the most Christian Asians. I have never met a Filipino who practices an East Asian religion. The Philippines is the only Asian country where Christmas is a popular holiday.
    , @Brutusale
    They're not know as "The Irish of Asia" for no reason.
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  79. MC says:
    @syonredux
    Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like watching women get hit.

    Low IQ people like women’s MMA for the same reason such people stage pit bull or cock fights.

    I think high IQ SWPLs like women’s MMA for the same reason they go for roller derby, excessive tattoos, unpleasantly cut bangs on women, and trashy culture in general: if something is obviously beautiful, good, pleasant, inspiring, ennobling, etc., then there’s no cultural cachet to be gained by liking it.

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  80. Whiskey says: • Website

    Damn, if MLS is racist, I better start checking it out! And better watch more racist (White) baseball. Though last time I checked it was chock full of Dominicans.

    The NFL/College Football should be long-term worried. For now, the average White fan sticks around because of inertia and most games are on free tv. But … say a start-up Rugby League playing to innate White sense of belonging and fun, like European Soccer clubs, well that’s something. Something that could destroy the soul-less, Black dominated, corporate NFL which even the players call the No Fun League.

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  81. gruff says:
    @AndyBoy
    The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries.

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren't "racist" and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to "color blindness".

    Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy.

    I suspect pointing out the obvious sadism of anti-Whites may be a opening.

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.

    You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. “Color blindness” is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one’s race is the watchword of the day.

    This of course presents an opportunity.

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    "You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. “Color blindness” is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one’s race is the watchword of the day."

    Blacks and the Left want their cake and eat it too. They want us Whites to recognize our "White privilege", but they don't want us Whites to develop racial tribalism like other races do.

    We should recognize that we are White when it comes to self hating ourselves, but at the same time we should be color blind and reject White racial tribalism if it means advancing White interests.
    , @artichoke
    Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation. Under the yoke of affirmative action for 50 long years, whites are finally putting together the program that complies with the rules but minimizes the legal advantage to blacks.

    Without a substantial legal advantage, blacks just fail.

    Hence they are turning into thugs. They should get nothing at this time. That's important, this is the dark time before the dawn. Stay strong.
    , @guest
    Color blindness for non-whites is on its way out. For whites, it is intended to last forever. That's the truth that opened my eyes to "race realism": whatever you think of colorblindness, they aren't teaching it to other races. So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides.
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  82. gruff says:
    @Ivy
    Soccer fandom obviously is just part of the slippery pitch, er, slope, toward inevitable goosestepping thugs. Looking at the typical Seattle or Portland fan shouldn't make one worry much, at least those among non-Manhattanites.

    Dude, slope is not the preferred nomenclature….

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  83. EH says:
    @Anon
    It's the sort of article that makes me think, "Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank." And then I realize I can't call him a Korean racial slur because I don't know any. I've never heard one.

    Careful about insulting a Korean SJW, he’s’s — I mean it’s a slippery slope.

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  84. @Daniel H
    Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise.

    >>For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end......<<

    I could make a rude joke about where the White American Male very often seems to be on top and probably will be for a long time, to the chagrin of Kang and his male ethnic affiliates, but this is a family blog, so I will refrain.

    Hah! Their style — no good!

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  85. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @MC
    "Most people don’t live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it’s going to be a local pro team."

    I think this is probably true of urban areas like Seattle and Portland (which have colleges but are not "college towns"). But obviously someone is going to college football games, and it isn't just students, so a lot of people live where their college is. This is perhaps an urban/suburban/rural divide, which cleaves along some of the same hipster/blue/red state lines. Also may be a coastal thing; Pac-12 and ACC football fans aren't nearly as intense as fans in the Midwest/South/Texas.

    Where there are no pro football teams, and the local college team is good, that’s the hot ticket.

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  86. @Twinkie

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.
     
    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that's probably selection bias on my part). I've run into very few "social justice warriors" of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs - at least from my experience - tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked "Portlandia" a long time ago.

    Your analysis of Seattle YT’s is spot on.

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  87. Daniel H says:
    @AnotherDad

    Furthermore, the average IQ of both the fans and participants (which include the supporting engineers, technicians and mechanics) of NASCAR events is significantly higher than that of any other popular sporting event.
     
    Once again demeaning golf as "not popular".

    I caddied for 8 years as a youth. Saw golf very up close. I stand by my observation that the average IQ of the NASCAR crowd is significantly higher than that of the gold crowd.

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    Does the lack of blacks in NASCAR, IQ-wise, make up for all the Asians in golf?
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  88. Jason Liu says:

    Koreans are more likely to be SJWs, acting like they’re blacks and all. It’s well known in the Asian community.

    This rant about soccer couldn’t be less relevant, given that most soccer fans (in Seattle, no less) are skinny liberal white boys who probably love the fact that their “privilege” is coming to an end. What is strange, is why the NYT decided to give him a platform.

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    Koreans are more likely to be SJWs, acting like they’re blacks and all. It’s well known in the Asian community.
     
    Oh, is it "well known in the Asian community"? Who appointed you the spokesperson of the so-called Asian community?*

    Here are some actual facts:

    Per the Pew Study on Asians, Koreans actually have the lowest opinion of interracial relations in the United States, mainly because of their conflicts with blacks. They do not "act like they're black and all." If they resemble anybody outside of their race, it is the Irish, not the blacks. Like the Irish, Koreans tend to be overrepresented in religion, acting, music, and fighting sports. Blacks are not the only people who do so.

    Per the long-running Manhattan Institute study on immigrant assimilation, the Koreans in America display high rates of cultural and civic assimilation. Their American-born progeny intermarry whites at the highest rates among Asians and are over-represented in the military (particularly in the Army officer corps). Chinese and Indians, on the other hand, display the lowest rates of cultural assimilation in the United States among the major immigrant groups. The only other major Asian immigrant group that matches or exceeds the Koreans in assimilation are the Filipinos.

    *There is no "the Asian community." Asians are not blacks. They come from many different countries with widely divergent genetic backgrounds and cultures. Similarly, they have very different political orientations in this country (with the Koreans and the Vietnamese being the most Republican and the Indians being the most Democratic).
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  89. Jefferson says:
    @Twinkie

    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.
     
    Because Koreans tend to be the most extreme among East Asians whatever they do. When they go full-SWJ, they can be the most shrill of the lot. On theother hand, when they decide to go full-patriotic, they become Navy SEALs, Green Berets, etc. (the modal surname for each graduating class at West Point is often "Kim").

    For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country, with the highest intermarrage rate with whites. Though things are changing with the younger cohorts, the likes of Kang are rare among them.

    “For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian”

    Filipinos are the most Christian Asians. I have never met a Filipino who practices an East Asian religion. The Philippines is the only Asian country where Christmas is a popular holiday.

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    Filipinos are the most Christian Asians. I have never met a Filipino who practices an East Asian religion.
     
    Try a little reading comprehension. The following is what I wrote earlier:

    For a number of reasons, they [the Koreans] remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country
     
    Filipinos are not East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Taiwanese), but Southeast Asians.

    On a further note, yes, the Philippines is the most Christianized and Catholic country in Asia. South Korea, however, is the most Protestant in all of Asia, and the most Christianized in *East* Asia.

    Furthermore, while South Korea is 25-30% Christian, in *the United States*, around 80-90% of Koreans are Christians.

    And, unsurprisingly, both the Koreans and the Filipinos in the U.S. display high rates of cultural assimilation unlike the Chinese and the Indians.

    The Philippines is the only Asian country where Christmas is a popular holiday.
     
    Don't be silly. Christmas is a highly popular - and government-recognized - holiday in South Korea, unlike in Japan and China where it is not a national holiday.
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  90. Abe says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    "Liking things you like is racist?"

    If you are white ...

    “Liking things you like is racist?”

    If you are white …

    The only unforgivable crime is thriving while white.

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    Or breathing.
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  91. Jefferson says:
    @gruff

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.
     
    You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. "Color blindness" is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one's race is the watchword of the day.

    This of course presents an opportunity.

    “You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. “Color blindness” is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one’s race is the watchword of the day.”

    Blacks and the Left want their cake and eat it too. They want us Whites to recognize our “White privilege”, but they don’t want us Whites to develop racial tribalism like other races do.

    We should recognize that we are White when it comes to self hating ourselves, but at the same time we should be color blind and reject White racial tribalism if it means advancing White interests.

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    Yes, but that's precisely where the opportunity lies. The cognitive dissonance of the requirements placed on whites makes them unsustainable. Something's got to give, is already giving. When confused centrist whites despair, thinking "do I have anything to be proud of?", we step in with the rich heritage of the West.
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  92. Someone should give a condescending lecture to Kang about how Koreans should support the Japanese national team.

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  93. Hodag says:

    Re: Among The Thugs.

    Hasn’t anyone anywhere been in a fistfight, ever?

    As a young man, there is no more fun and thrilling thing than punching out some guy that has it coming. I am a short man, but my father went out of his way to teach me how to box. The mma thing of nowadays means I have to send my boy to judo class. But once you learn how to box, relax and land hands on the few spots that count… There you go.

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  95. artichoke says:

    I may start being a MLS fan. I didn’t know what I was missing until this article. Camaraderie!

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  96. Yak-15 says:
    @syonredux

    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It’s a highly non-ironic culture.
     
    Not surprising. I seem to recall reading that a sense of irony is linked to having a high IQ....

    “Fat Guy Falls Down” humor bridges all cultures and races.

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    “Fat Guy Falls Down” humor bridges all cultures and races.

    On iSteve, it's “Fat Guy Falls Down on Trolley Tracks.”
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  97. artichoke says:
    @gruff

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.
     
    You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. "Color blindness" is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one's race is the watchword of the day.

    This of course presents an opportunity.

    Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation. Under the yoke of affirmative action for 50 long years, whites are finally putting together the program that complies with the rules but minimizes the legal advantage to blacks.

    Without a substantial legal advantage, blacks just fail.

    Hence they are turning into thugs. They should get nothing at this time. That’s important, this is the dark time before the dawn. Stay strong.

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    "Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation."

    Meeting a colorblind Negro is like meeting a Guatemalan who is over 6 feet tall. There's not too many of them out there.
    , @Maj. Kong
    It's not desperation for them, but rather for whites. While blacks may be losing their favored position in the Democratic Party, and BLM is a Soros-LGBT driven effort to assuage that; they still have the belief that a permanent majority for the left via mass immigration will deliver massive welfare statism.

    YT would then be paying Denmark level taxes for Brazil level results.

    Many don't understand the true intensity and endurance of black racial resentment towards whites. When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it. In the same way that people think that Mr. Brown in Ferguson was shot while surrendering.

    BLM, much like the Tea Party, isn't mobilizing those previously on the fence. It's just turning up the volume of those already prone to 'extreme' politics.
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  98. AndrewR says:

    When did the NYT become so shitlibtarded?

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  99. @syonredux

    I wouldn’t necessarily say there’s no difference between Scots and English,
     
    In the UK, there's a difference. In the USA, there's no difference.

    There’ve been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).
     
    The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry.

    Bill Clinton is 100% African-American, the son of share-cropping parents descended directly from African slaves – Bill is our 1st black president – no British heritage at all – just African.

    Bill’s affair with Halle Berry proves it.

    Oh, and David Justice divorced her because of Halle and Bill.

    Then Halle married Eric Benet. But Eric had to divorce Halle after he caught Bill and Halle in flagrante delicto.

    So Bill is Black.

    Okay, I made all that stuff up. I just want to read Truth’s idiotic response to it.

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  100. Blobby5 says:

    Derb called the Koreans the ‘Irish of Asia’.

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  101. Bill P says:

    My cousin was a benchwarmer for the Sounders for a couple years. I think I would have made a better pro soccer player than he was, and I’m not just saying that out of sour grapes. He was just too delicate for the game and not that strong. As for me, after the age of 17 I got really tired of athletic drills. Seemed mindless, totally uninteresting and pointless.

    Whatever the case, if young Seattle men are doing something to reclaim their manhood – even if it involves mindless/uninteresting/pointless fandom – I’m all for it. Seattle’s mayor is a militant sodomite, its city council has long been dominated by a lesbian faction, and the de facto king of the city is Jeff Bezos, who looks like he just emerged from a mole tunnel.

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    ".....and the de facto king of the city is Jeff Bezos, who looks like he just emerged from a mole tunnel."

    Jeff Bezos looks to be consciously going for the Lex Luthor / Ernst Stavro Blofeld look.
    , @Discard
    I agree. Any open expression of manliness is better than effeminacy. Even rioting Antifas can be salvaged, but you can't make a man out of a pussy. And if that expression of manliness has some oblique taint of racial pride, so much the better. A hipster's fedora is Whiter than a baseball cap worn backwards.

    I think that a lot of young SJWs would love to be racists if they had the nerve. It accords with experience, and it frees them of the guilt they've been drowning in for all their lives.
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  102. Winthorp says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It's a highly non-ironic culture.

    Imagine if these same irony-loving hipsters actually did what Kang suggests and became Mexican soccer fans. The Times would swiftly condemn them for cultural appropriation and situate their behavior in the problematic cultural context of blackface and college sombrero parties.

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  103. Jefferson says:
    @syonredux

    I wouldn’t necessarily say there’s no difference between Scots and English,
     
    In the UK, there's a difference. In the USA, there's no difference.

    There’ve been only two pretty much totally non-British Isles presidents, by the way, Martin Van Buren (just Dutch) and Dwight Eisenhower (who may have been 1/64 British at most).
     
    The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry.

    “The British Isles (counting Ireland for these purposes) lock on the presidency is pretty interesting. Even Obama was half British in ancestry.”

    Surprisingly America has elected a Black president before a Jewish or Italian president.

    Argentina and Brazil have elected an Italian president before The U.S.

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  104. Warner says:

    why would they be needed in a supposedly progressive city on the West Coast of the United States?

    Maybe the same reason the most progressive party in the United States has to constantly reiterate that it doesn’t tolerate racism.

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  105. Jefferson says:
    @Twinkie

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.
     
    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that's probably selection bias on my part). I've run into very few "social justice warriors" of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs - at least from my experience - tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked "Portlandia" a long time ago.

    “And those few Asian SJWs – at least from my experience – tend to be quite zealous.”

    The Asian version of Marc Lamont Hill is Jose Antonio Vargas.

    He used to only talk about immigration, but now he is sticking his nose into the White cop/Black male confrontation phenomenon.

    Asian Social Justice Warriors like Mr. Vargas must feel extremely frustrated that the vast majority of race conversations in America do not include talking about Asians.

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    Man, the comments there are brutal!
    , @tbraton
    If the guy in the link, who lives in overwhelmingly white, very upscale Chevy Chase, Md., really wants to show solidarity with the Blacks, I think there are still plenty of mostly Black neighborhoods just across the line in Washington, D.C. where he can move with his family. Now that would be making a statement. Probably more of a statement than he wants to make. I guess his wife was right about planting that sign in his yard.
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  107. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "Liking things you like is racist?"

    If you are white ...

    sheeesh! Did this guy never listen to Team Iceland’s Viking War Chant (which is, actually, bs, but it still sound’s good!) at the Euro? Someone please inform this author that Icelanders are white…and, like, yeah, EVERYONE, world-wide, French, Portuguese and German teams and fans, loved this very tribal chant.

    The fact that he did not even mention The Euro tells me he knows jack about soccer or soccer fans. What a dork. Probably never painted his face or chest for team colors, I’m guessing…nor got drunk and thought the ‘big game’ was awesome with his bros.

    If you just finished watching the Euro, you would know that soccer has very nationalistic, visceral, atavistic, behavior of fans at every game, and yes, there was bad-ass fan behavior also, on the streets of Paris.

    I mean, Oregon/Washington soccer leagues/MLS is still sort of “meh” to me. But, this author trying to draw some kind of strings of bad white behavior that may mirror British soccer hooliganism is really stretching it.

    Also, he must not co-opt and malign my Alexi, a family friend, into an article obviously, written by someone who not only does not understand soccer and its history, but has a personal axe to grind.

    OT: I ignore conspiracy theories (because they freak me out) BUT, the underlying idea that whites are difficult to control or be to be subjugated, is the sheer fact that they are the largest males…I think Danes are the tallest and huskiest. And, a long time ago, my son’s South American soccer coach said that the reason that few Central Americans make it to the Premier League is their short height…or relative squatness compared to the long limbs of all the other men from all over the world.

    Now, my take on why Iceland lost: they were bigger (most of them) than the French players, but they lack tactical and footskills that all the Euro teams have. However, it is hard to be a world-class team if you come together for a short time to play together in a country of 330,000.
    But, they achieved a lot, and everybody loved them.

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  108. Jefferson says:
    @artichoke
    Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation. Under the yoke of affirmative action for 50 long years, whites are finally putting together the program that complies with the rules but minimizes the legal advantage to blacks.

    Without a substantial legal advantage, blacks just fail.

    Hence they are turning into thugs. They should get nothing at this time. That's important, this is the dark time before the dawn. Stay strong.

    “Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation.”

    Meeting a colorblind Negro is like meeting a Guatemalan who is over 6 feet tall. There’s not too many of them out there.

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  109. Some day in the distant future, an American soccer club will play a major European club in an honest to goodness match where the result matters, and the European club fans will take umbrage at something or the other.

    And after the match, European soccer hooligans will take on the scarf-wearing hipster American fans to vent their feelings.

    After that glorious day, there will be no more scarf-wearing Europhile soccer hipsters in America.

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  110. I mainly know soccer as some sport that every four years has an event called the World Cup, which is a an occasion for the media to write about why Americans don’t give a shit about it.

    I remember an old man calling it “communist kickball” when I was a kid in the 80′s.

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    I went to an (American) football camp in the '80s, and one evening we were having a chat session on multi-sport field with one of the coaches, and he pointed at the soccer goal and said that was the real enemy. I didn't quite get that.

    Anyhow, I think the days of the media writing that are probably behind us. English Premier League soccer broadcast nationally here now, and both international tournaments this summer, the Euros and the Copa America got a lot of coverage.

    And MLS is getting more traction, despite its built-in handicaps (the lack of a feeder system, over-reliance on washed-up European players, etc.).
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  111. Lurker says:
    @Cagey Beast

    A major difference between the US and Europe is that almost every European country has a rudimentary set of localist/nationalist organizations for young men already in place due to the more organic nature of sports over there.
     
    After the latest(?) Brussels attack:

    "Belgian cuck gets knocked out for supporting Muslims who bombed Brussels"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjVvAQdxy8


    Brussels mayor deplores 'scoundrels' who disrupted Place de la Bourse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG4kTjAVBd0

    The Belgian cuck getting knocked down is superb. Poetry! The way his glasses fly away is a nice cartoon-like touch as well.

    As I tried to explain to a friend, when you get right down to it, who is likely to stop another terrorist attack – a fat liberal at a useless, passive candlelit vigil or the guy who knocked him down?

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    That punch is the one we all fantasize ourselves delivering should the need arise. A single, clean, knockout blow.
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  112. Michelle says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfEleWy9qp0

    Oh! Oh! I am dying!

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  113. Lurker says:
    @Abe

    “Liking things you like is racist?”

    If you are white …
     
    The only unforgivable crime is thriving while white.

    Or breathing.

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  114. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bill P
    My cousin was a benchwarmer for the Sounders for a couple years. I think I would have made a better pro soccer player than he was, and I'm not just saying that out of sour grapes. He was just too delicate for the game and not that strong. As for me, after the age of 17 I got really tired of athletic drills. Seemed mindless, totally uninteresting and pointless.

    Whatever the case, if young Seattle men are doing something to reclaim their manhood - even if it involves mindless/uninteresting/pointless fandom - I'm all for it. Seattle's mayor is a militant sodomite, its city council has long been dominated by a lesbian faction, and the de facto king of the city is Jeff Bezos, who looks like he just emerged from a mole tunnel.

    “…..and the de facto king of the city is Jeff Bezos, who looks like he just emerged from a mole tunnel.”

    Jeff Bezos looks to be consciously going for the Lex Luthor / Ernst Stavro Blofeld look.

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  115. Lagertha says:
    @Yep
    With all the BLM stuff in the news average whites are finally talking about iSteve stuff but so many of them are clueless about anti-white articles like this that appear in the press every day. They are clueless how deep and entrenched hatred of whites has become. I feel sorry for their children who'll have to live in a much harsher world.

    you’re actually wrong about that. Many HS kids today are totally on-to the bs they’ve been fed for a decade. I am still around a lot of young people, and overhear their chatter about all the current events. They are very cynical and very good at hiding it, just like all teenagers. I’m lucky I am somewhat eccentric (hah!) and have good maternal instincts, so they tell me a lot of their thoughts – we have a pool and a great backyard, and summer is long.

    No, kids these days, are cynical for a reason – they know they are last on the list demographically. This is also my theory why the most emotional ones, the smartest ones, cross the line so easily to heroin and die. Ok, didn’t mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what’s goin’ on.

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    Ok, didn’t mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what’s goin’ on.
     
    Please talk them out of suicide if you can. The damage from their act is not just greater than they imagine, it is enormously greater. And its repercussions reverberate across generations. We need them to help, not to die.
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  116. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jefferson
    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should't he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    “I’m completely baffled. What is this guy’s point? Liking things you like is racist?”

    If you are white, you are practicing Hate-Like.

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  117. @Lagertha
    you're actually wrong about that. Many HS kids today are totally on-to the bs they've been fed for a decade. I am still around a lot of young people, and overhear their chatter about all the current events. They are very cynical and very good at hiding it, just like all teenagers. I'm lucky I am somewhat eccentric (hah!) and have good maternal instincts, so they tell me a lot of their thoughts - we have a pool and a great backyard, and summer is long.

    No, kids these days, are cynical for a reason - they know they are last on the list demographically. This is also my theory why the most emotional ones, the smartest ones, cross the line so easily to heroin and die. Ok, didn't mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what's goin' on.

    Ok, didn’t mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what’s goin’ on.

    Please talk them out of suicide if you can. The damage from their act is not just greater than they imagine, it is enormously greater. And its repercussions reverberate across generations. We need them to help, not to die.

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    I have successfully influenced 2 young men (are now in college) and one girl (poor self-esteem despite beauty; giving herself over cheaply) who graduated HS a year later, and has moved on. Only one OD'd. All had difficult situations at home, and fell into depression.

    And, when their world view becomes pessimistic, it becomes toxic - some were cutters which is so awful. But, when people notice, yes, I agree, there is sometimes a chance to nudge them out of the abyss. I have always said my home is a "safe house," in our town. There are a few other moms who practice this form of intervention as well. Of course, these teens also know us well enough that there is that small chance one can re-direct their thoughts.
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  118. Lagertha says:
    @Grumpy
    Indeed.

    I wonder how long it will be before all the oppressively white Swipple hobbies and hideouts are in the spotlight; craft breweries and organic farmers' markets may be next.

    don’t forget: Yoga retreats; Pilates; rock climbing; hiking while wearing Patagonia; paddle boarding; kayaking; windsurfing (who does that anymore?); bike racing; polo; raising chickens in your yard; Pokemon Go…list is too long. Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

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    Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

    Saw the following on Twitter today. It's just what you ordered!

    https://twitter.com/SilverVVulpes/status/753200835497189376

    Make certain to lick on the image to get the punch line.
    , @Hunsdon
    I find the brand name Patagonia to be deeply problematic. It smacks of cultural appropriation. :)
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  119. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jefferson
    Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should't he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.

    “Why is a Korean American Social Justice Warrior writing about soccer culture in Europe and Latin America? Should’t he be writing articles about how he hates being seen as a Model Minority.”

    Or how both the number one and number two most prolific mass-shooters were Korean (until that guy shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando, that is). Talk about “stunted males”.

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  120. Trelane says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence.

    You see that more and more: it's an easy source for mainstream guys for interesting new ideas.

    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence

    Do you mean valence in the sense of chemistry, linguistics or psychology? Or maybe all three?

    Also, wasn’t “Kang” the name of a high ranking Klingon character on Star Trek? We’re living in the Matrix right?

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    That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons.

    As to the article: I really enjoyed how he characterized the Dark side as the White side.

    Be careful what you wish for, Kang.
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  121. Lagertha says:
    @Jefferson
    "Professional wrestling crowds aren’t terribly high IQ, and they are very diverse, but they are very nice."

    I hate most wrestling fans and this is coming from a wrestling fan. Most of them are fickle bandwagoners.

    I dunno. I am friends with Bob Backlund and he was an awesome wrestler and a great inspiration to HS wrestlers. I bought his book!

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  122. Lagertha says:
    @syonredux
    Looking forward to Kang's sequel article: The Unbearable Whiteness of Rowing

    best laugh of the night! Can we just get Team Iceland and their drum in the shell?

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  123. Altai says:

    For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end…

    Holy moly, it’s like a post from
    r/AsianMasculinity gained sentience and a job at the NYT.

    Seriously I’m always confused, is Chad just ignorant to think Chan isn’t just another American like him who looks different or is he a perpetual outsider who wants to ethnically displace him, because they keep saying one thing but then this is the opener to something a second-generation, well-educated Asian writer for the NYT.

    Even that headline… This guy hates being considered short and unattractive due to his race, there really is no other motivation for these constant articles. It’d be interesting if the NYT asked his opinion about women. I’m sure it’d be just as progressive as his deep resentment and hatred of white men suggests…

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  124. Lagertha says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    If Olivia Nuzzi weren't white herself, she might have taken that tack against Hope Hicks, who rowed in college.
    https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/753305951957094401

    I was wondering when the pitchforks or bitchforks would come out for Hope Hicks. She was a Ralph Lauren (a great guy & business genius) model; smart, capable…but her current job will make her into a bigger target than she ever imagined. I am really rooting for her to persevere, which she will do with aplomb.

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    Despite the ill-intent, it's remarkable how she really couldn't find any dirt on her.

    Hope is good-looking, athletic, ambitious, competent, doesn't drink... she's sort of a young, female Trump. That's why they hate her.
    , @guest
    We need to step away from the word "model" as implying any sort of positive attributes.
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  125. @syonredux
    Hispanic immigrants did drive Blacks out of sanitation/janitorial jobs in CA a couple of decades ago. The jobs were unionized, and employers brought in Hispanic hires as a union-busting move.

    ‘Hispanic immigrants did drive Blacks out of sanitation/janitorial jobs in CA a couple of decades ago.’

    A couple of decades ago.

    And they still haven’t worked out how the Democratic Party is playing ‘The Immigration Game’ against them.

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  126. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
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    I mainly know soccer as some sport that every four years has an event called the World Cup, which is a an occasion for the media to write about why Americans don't give a shit about it.

    I remember an old man calling it "communist kickball" when I was a kid in the 80's.

    I went to an (American) football camp in the ’80s, and one evening we were having a chat session on multi-sport field with one of the coaches, and he pointed at the soccer goal and said that was the real enemy. I didn’t quite get that.

    Anyhow, I think the days of the media writing that are probably behind us. English Premier League soccer broadcast nationally here now, and both international tournaments this summer, the Euros and the Copa America got a lot of coverage.

    And MLS is getting more traction, despite its built-in handicaps (the lack of a feeder system, over-reliance on washed-up European players, etc.).

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    The media has been shoving soccer down our throats for many years now. It's like the gay/tranny thing: go on and on and on about it, and eventually it will gain traction.

    Americans used to take pride in being different. We strove to remain apart from the global hive mind. But now we, too, want to be part of the collective. Sad.

    I've always found soccer boring as hell and I always will.
    , @Brutusale
    If you're old enough, you've been told that soccer is the "next big thing" for 50 years, beginning when the NY Cosmos brought in Pele, Giorgio Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto and Franz Beckenbauer in the mid-Seventies.
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  127. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Lagertha
    I was wondering when the pitchforks or bitchforks would come out for Hope Hicks. She was a Ralph Lauren (a great guy & business genius) model; smart, capable...but her current job will make her into a bigger target than she ever imagined. I am really rooting for her to persevere, which she will do with aplomb.

    Despite the ill-intent, it’s remarkable how she really couldn’t find any dirt on her.

    Hope is good-looking, athletic, ambitious, competent, doesn’t drink… she’s sort of a young, female Trump. That’s why they hate her.

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  128. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @syonredux
    Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like watching women get hit.

    I don’t mind seeing them get hit if they’re not getting hurt too bad, but the beating Miesha Tate took wasn’t fun to watch. That’s why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.

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    That’s why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.
     
    That will result in the fighters being able to hit even harder.
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  129. @Twinkie

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.
     
    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that's probably selection bias on my part). I've run into very few "social justice warriors" of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs - at least from my experience - tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked "Portlandia" a long time ago.

    I doubt Kang hates white people more than your basic Brooklyn hipster does. He just sees a cultural trend and takes part in it, and does it fairly well. He’s just trying to fit in, cut him some slack :) Blame the trend, not the trendster.

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies

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    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies
     
    He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his "insights" "interesting."
    , @WhatEvvs
    I don't agree that Kang is as harmless as you make him out to be. And as for Brooklyn hipsters, annoying as they are, isn't bashing on them getting a little bit old? Maybe it's my age, but I see them as cute kids trying on various personae. I've already seen them get married and have babies. Suddenly the airy-fairy politics becomes less important than Junior's education. But I digress -

    About Kang, I truly think he is a malignant creep, and yes, dangerous. He is interested in a fellow Korean who became a maniacal mass murderer, and wrote in his vicious troll baseball column (published in the NY Times, not some online rag) "As I grew older, and started feeling alienated from my white classmates..." When I first read that sentence, it chilled me to my guts. He wrote it *after* a racial confederate committed a mass murder, arising from racial alienation. Could a white man write the same? The question answers itself.

    BTW, I disagree with him that baseball doesn't "captivate young fans"....what fans? My job puts me in contact with a lot of young Dominican guys who have utility infielder positions in the physical therapy industry. One guy I work with adores Bryce Harper (he loves Harper's strutting machismo) and none of them are particularly racial in their appreciation of baseball players - Dominicans are fanatic baseball fans but they aren't racialized about their appreciation. At least, I haven't noticed this.

    Kang is an Asian racist who has been mentally colonized by whiteness. The NY Times is helping him in his racial jihad.
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  130. Maj. Kong says:
    @artichoke
    Blacks are rejecting colorblindness out of desperation. Under the yoke of affirmative action for 50 long years, whites are finally putting together the program that complies with the rules but minimizes the legal advantage to blacks.

    Without a substantial legal advantage, blacks just fail.

    Hence they are turning into thugs. They should get nothing at this time. That's important, this is the dark time before the dawn. Stay strong.

    It’s not desperation for them, but rather for whites. While blacks may be losing their favored position in the Democratic Party, and BLM is a Soros-LGBT driven effort to assuage that; they still have the belief that a permanent majority for the left via mass immigration will deliver massive welfare statism.

    YT would then be paying Denmark level taxes for Brazil level results.

    Many don’t understand the true intensity and endurance of black racial resentment towards whites. When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it. In the same way that people think that Mr. Brown in Ferguson was shot while surrendering.

    BLM, much like the Tea Party, isn’t mobilizing those previously on the fence. It’s just turning up the volume of those already prone to ‘extreme’ politics.

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    "When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it."

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that "lynching" was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don't get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of "lynching." It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I'm sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)
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  131. Did anyone post “He wuz Kangs!” yet?

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  132. @Lagertha
    don't forget: Yoga retreats; Pilates; rock climbing; hiking while wearing Patagonia; paddle boarding; kayaking; windsurfing (who does that anymore?); bike racing; polo; raising chickens in your yard; Pokemon Go...list is too long. Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

    Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

    Saw the following on Twitter today. It’s just what you ordered!

    Make certain to lick on the image to get the punch line.

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    So, I licked the image and nothing happened but a smear on my computer screen.
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  133. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Yes, ‘Among the Thugs’, a very interesting book.

    Bill Buford – the editor of Granta, no less, (for the uninitiated, it was, back in the day, the UK’s premier literary magazine, being dedicated to ‘new, young’ literature), embarked on a Hemingwayesque odyssey to taste, experience and participate in the uber prole and loutish traditional English working class past time of soccer violence.
    Buford was actually the real deal and first hand witnessed and participated in the thuggery.
    It’s been a long time since I’ve read the book – which I highly recommend – but a number of instances and anecdotes still stick in my mind.
    One concerns a thug, whom Buford compares to the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz, physically, at least, grabbing a police officer in a bear hug, sucking hard in the orbit of the policeman’s eye, managing to suck the eyeball ‘half out’, and then biting hard on the elevated eyeball blinding the unfortunate policeman. In the ‘liberal’ Britain of those times, he only got a cursory sentence. The ‘cowardly lion’ was in civvy street a wealthy businessman owning a string of ‘strip-pubs’.
    Another memorable incident was of a platoon of thugs booking a bus to take them to ‘away’ football games, and using the ‘inflight’ television of the bus to screen a carefully edited tape showing memorable and historic scenes of mass soccer violence.
    In another incident, which Buford witnessed, a particularly cunning thug managed to switch a London underground railway escalator into ‘reverse’ mode, causing a mass backward pile up of rival thug bodies cascading downwards. Buford recalled with horror of seeing, in his words, of a ‘floppy man’ at the the bottom of the pile apparently spastically trying to stand up.

    The book is as horrifying as it is informative.

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    That eyeball story may be the most depraved thing I have ever heard. I stopped reading your comment for fear that the remaining anecdotes would (somehow) be even worse!
    , @tbraton
    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80's before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    "He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King's College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term "dirty realism"."

    I haven't read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a "B."
    , @syonredux
    Green Street Hooligans: Elijah Wood plays a Yank who was expelled from Harvard who goes to the UK and immerses himself in the soccer hooligan lifestyle


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAe-1Lv1KYU
    , @syonredux
    Fight scene from Green Street Hooligans


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tqt4GCqCk
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  134. @Dave Pinsen
    I don't mind seeing them get hit if they're not getting hurt too bad, but the beating Miesha Tate took wasn't fun to watch. That's why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.

    That’s why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.

    That will result in the fighters being able to hit even harder.

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    At some point the thicker gloves begin to provide protection to the ones getting hit. That's why people spar with big gloves on.
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  135. BenKenobi says:
    @Trelane
    I presume Kang is reading forbidden stuff and just changing the valence

    Do you mean valence in the sense of chemistry, linguistics or psychology? Or maybe all three?

    Also, wasn't "Kang" the name of a high ranking Klingon character on Star Trek? We're living in the Matrix right?

    That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons.

    As to the article: I really enjoyed how he characterized the Dark side as the White side.

    Be careful what you wish for, Kang.

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    "That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons."

    Commander Kang (Michael Ansara) would disagree.

    , @res
    Actually, Trelane was right: http://www.startrek.com/database_article/kang

    Khan was a genetically modified human from the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh
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  136. SnakeEyes says:

    This Kang guy is clearly trolling. MLS and all things to do with soccer (sorry – “football”) is part of a left wing conspiracy to pussify American males by reducing football (sorry – “gridiron”) to also-ran status. Kang did not get his KKKrazy-glue coalition memo on point.

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    Yeah, because paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to cheer on and dissipate psychic energy on rapey black aphletes hasn't pussified them enough
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  137. guest says:
    @syonredux

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.
     
    Trump is half-Scots.In the USA, Scots and Anglo-Saxon is a distinction without a difference.

    There may not be much of a difference now; people nowadays don’t draw much of a distinction between white people at all, unless they talk funny. But we’re talking about the whole scope of presidential history. If you asked the Yankee ruling class in 1900, for instance, I’m pretty sure they’d have something to say about being lumped in with Micks n Macs.

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    There may not be much of a difference now; people nowadays don’t draw much of a distinction between white people at all, unless they talk funny. But we’re talking about the whole scope of presidential history. If you asked the Yankee ruling class in 1900, for instance, I’m pretty sure they’d have something to say about being lumped in with Micks n Macs.
     
    With the Catholic Irish, sure. They were outside the WASP circle. With the Protestant Scots, it was quite different.
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  138. guest says:
    @gruff

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren’t “racist” and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to “color blindness”.
     
    You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. "Color blindness" is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one's race is the watchword of the day.

    This of course presents an opportunity.

    Color blindness for non-whites is on its way out. For whites, it is intended to last forever. That’s the truth that opened my eyes to “race realism”: whatever you think of colorblindness, they aren’t teaching it to other races. So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides.

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    "So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides."

    People are picking sides, there own. They don't need you harping on them for "choosing wrong".
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  139. guest says:
    @Sid Storch
    ".. so terrified of populist organizations such as the BNP or the ascendant English Defence League that they instinctively cover up the crimes of barbaric foreigners."

    I wish I understood the logic of your original assertion. Presumably, some of the victims of the Pakis would be daughters/sisters of the white soccer hooligans. If you were afraid of the hooligans, why would you engage in a cover up that could only worsen any class resentment they already had against you?

    I don’t get your point. You cover it up so they don’t know, so there won’t be any resentment.

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  140. Twinkie says:
    @European-American
    I doubt Kang hates white people more than your basic Brooklyn hipster does. He just sees a cultural trend and takes part in it, and does it fairly well. He's just trying to fit in, cut him some slack :) Blame the trend, not the trendster.

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies

    He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his “insights” “interesting.”

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    OK sorry I may have oversold him :)
    , @Jefferson
    "He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his “insights” “interesting.”

    Eddie Huang is a rotten banana, which is an Asian who wishes he was Black. It's the extreme opposite of a twinkie.

    On Fresh Off The Boat all of the posters in Eddie's room are of Black males, consisting of rappers and NBA players. He would often wear t-shirts which have the image of a Black male celebrity.

    Rotten bananas are extremely common in California.
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  141. guest says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    “also, the women tend to be attractive.”

    No.

    For play-along sake, compared to whom? Bodybuilders?

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  142. guest says:
    @Lagertha
    I was wondering when the pitchforks or bitchforks would come out for Hope Hicks. She was a Ralph Lauren (a great guy & business genius) model; smart, capable...but her current job will make her into a bigger target than she ever imagined. I am really rooting for her to persevere, which she will do with aplomb.

    We need to step away from the word “model” as implying any sort of positive attributes.

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    I dunno.....I have friends who financed their graduate degrees with their modeling gigs. One was a Cover Model and made millions with her looks so she could pay for medical school and have no debt. It's just a job, albeit one that pays a ridiculous amount of money - a job that can't be out-sourced! ha!
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  143. guest says:
    @Mr. Blank

    For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end,
     
    Do our betters have any idea how inflammatory this kind of thing sounds to people who are not schooled in SJW academic cant?

    I read stuff like this and I swear I sometimes wonder if there's a concerted effort among elites to goad whites into a racist backlash on purpose, so the "backlash" can then be used to justify sterner measures. I'm well aware of how goofy that sounds, but yeesh. Sometimes I really wonder.

    Glenn Reynolds is right: The current "leaders" of the West, whether cultural or political or what have you, must be the most incompetent leadership class since the waning days of Rome.

    They do and they don’t know how inflammatory it is. They do, because it is intentionally written to garner attention. They don’t, because they don’t care about your reaction. You’re just a pleb.

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  144. M says:
    @syonredux

    There are now two separate American soccer cultures: one white, the other Latino. And while some of the Europhilia can be attributed to the relative newness of American soccer fandom (traditions, I suppose, have to start somewhere), it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe, or why the American media’s coverage of soccer culture, however scant, focuses on soccer bars in gentrified Brooklyn and fan organizations in majority-white cities like Portland, Ore., and Seattle.
     
    Dunno, Anglo-American soccer fans identifying more with Europe than with Latin America seems pretty natural to me.I mean,Kang, this may come as a shock, but Anglo-America and Latin America have very little in common with one another. Indeed, that's one of the big reasons why large scale immigration from Latin America is a really bad idea.

    It’s an odd response isn’t it?

    Any reasonable, sane person might think it might have to do with the fact that Portland hipsters might *like* sitting in pubs and they might sing songs in English, not Spanish, for the obvious reason.

    They might take the fact that the Portland hipsters grabbed a tradition from Italy when it suited them as evidence that they are not, in fact, ultimately obsessed with cosplaying Britain out of latent White nationalism.

    This guy, apparently not.

    Generally, about Kang’s motives, I wonder if a downside of East Asians being more convergent with middle class, higher education, sensitive (in a mostly positive way) Whites is that it seems like it would also make it likely some of those East Asians are, well, very, very, very touchy about anything those Whites might do that they might imagine might possibly not include them.

    (Possibly particularly Christian Koreans might be the worst for this, as the most culturally convergent group, generally?)

    Heirs to the country club panic and resentment. Only in Kang’s case it’s the rather more downscale football club, fitting with our more downwardly mobile times for the White middle class.

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  145. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    One advantage of women’s MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men.

    That is not so. Male bantamweight (135 lb) fighters are far more active than femalebantam weight (also 135 lb) fighters. Have you seen Dominick Cruz’s footwork? No female fighter moves like that, not even Holly Holm.

    And also, the women tend to be attractive.

    Again, no. Most female fighters look butch and mannish.

    But the problem is that women’s ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean).

    Again, not the case. If you looked at the UFC knockout statistics by weight class, the heavier weights (especially heavyweights and light heavyweights) have greater percentages of KOs. Even male bantamweights don’t have many KOs. There are even fewer among female bantamweights (and fewer still among female strawweights/115 lb).

    There has been a tremendous increase in the athletic talent and skill levels of female fighters in the last ten years or so. BUT, even today, most female MMA fighters have poor striking skills compared to their male counterparts. Most tend to do a lot of arm punches, which generate little power.

    Amanda Nunez, who just beat Miesha Tate in the video you linked above, does sit on her punches better than most and generate decent power, but her problem is that her footwork is very simple. She does not cut angles much or do head movement; she tries to overwhelm her opponents with her power, at which she was successful against Miesha Tate, because Nunez is a FAST starter while Tate is a notoriously slow starter. And even then it was accumulation of damage and eventually the choke/neck crank that finished the fight.

    Holly Holm is just about the only female fighter at 135 with excellent footwork, but then again she is a multiple boxing and kickboxing champion (Holm, though, is not a power puncher either; she sets up her powerful left roundhouse kick with her punches; she is also very good at retreating while cutting an angle and countering with her hands, generating power through a collision rather than with only her own hip rotation).

    I saw Saturday’s card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring

    Do you know much about grappling? There was a lot of interesting technical elements in most of the fights.

    By the way, last week there was a great example of a nearly perfectly executed punch, dropping an opponent with seemingly-unexpected power (Doo Ho Choi vs. Thiago Tavares; video here: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-doo-ho-choi-crushes-thiago-tavares-with-first-round-tko-video-070816). If you look at that video, you see a lanky 145 lb fighter generate a lot of power with correct hip rotation, sitting on the feet, and proper punch extension (all the while not leaning forward too much with his head and also exiting away quickly after making impact to avoid a counter… though he did not exit at an off-angle, hence “nearly” perfect comment above).

    I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    Boxing (which has thicker gloves) produces far more brain damage than MMA does, and you can’t grapple with headgear. That padding on the fist is not designed to protect opponents – it’s designed to protect your fist, so you can punch harder.

    In the early UFCs, a lot of fighters had to drop out of tournaments because gloves were not allowed and they ended up breaking their fists/wrists punching heads. Human cranium is a lot harder than the fist/wrist, and without heavy taping/gloves, punching someone’s skull with your fists is a bad idea (which is one of the reasons why JKD Concepts, for example, teaches finger jabs to the eyes and/or straight blasts into the clinch range and doing most damage with harder elbows and knees in a street fight).

    In any case, watching women’s MMA is like watching women’s basketball. Slower, weaker, and less skilled than male counterparts. I do watch it, because I watch all combat sports. I *always* learn something new in every fight and go over them with my children.

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  146. @Dave Pinsen
    I went to an (American) football camp in the '80s, and one evening we were having a chat session on multi-sport field with one of the coaches, and he pointed at the soccer goal and said that was the real enemy. I didn't quite get that.

    Anyhow, I think the days of the media writing that are probably behind us. English Premier League soccer broadcast nationally here now, and both international tournaments this summer, the Euros and the Copa America got a lot of coverage.

    And MLS is getting more traction, despite its built-in handicaps (the lack of a feeder system, over-reliance on washed-up European players, etc.).

    The media has been shoving soccer down our throats for many years now. It’s like the gay/tranny thing: go on and on and on about it, and eventually it will gain traction.

    Americans used to take pride in being different. We strove to remain apart from the global hive mind. But now we, too, want to be part of the collective. Sad.

    I’ve always found soccer boring as hell and I always will.

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  147. @Daniel H
    Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise.

    >>For the stunted American male, frust­rated with the changing demographics of the country and gripped by the belief that his days on top are coming to an end......<<

    I could make a rude joke about where the White American Male very often seems to be on top and probably will be for a long time, to the chagrin of Kang and his male ethnic affiliates, but this is a family blog, so I will refrain.

    “Jay Caspian Kang, as per Wikipedia, is Asian, Korean to be precise.”

    His forebears wuz Kangs !

    (Damn – just noticed Paul Walker’s comment #123)

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  148. The Washingtonites haven’t really got the appropriate attitude for football fandom yet
    “No one likes us, we don’t care!” (white prole community chorale at 1 minute in).
    I hear the Philadelphia Union are slowly getting it.

    Our new PM/nanny, Mistress Theresa, has the right attitude.
    “Hmmm, who can I make Foreign Secretary? The bloody foreigners all hate us anyway .. I know, Boris!”
    Deliberate trolling of the whole planet. I’m surprised she didn’t end the announcement with “U mad bro?”
    Has intentionally insulted Obama (basically accused him of Mau Mau), HRC (“a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital”), The Donald, (not leaving anything to electoral chance there) Erdogan (wrote a poem alleging Turkish PM’s proclivity for bestiality), Papuans (“cannibals”), Congolese (murderous piccaninnies, on being visited by Blair “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down”), on and on it goes.
    Can she make Prince Philip a roving goodwill and race-relations commissar, just to make the point?
    No one likes us, we don’t care.

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    Millwall F.C.

    The 'lions' who play at the 'den', the aptly named 'Cold Blows Lane' stadium in the god forsaken docklands of the East End.
    Rightly feared as the hardest football firm on the planet.

    Interesting factoid, Isambard Kingdom Brunel's pioneering steamship 'The Great Eastern' was built and launched at Millwall.
    , @Anonymous
    I would've have loved to have seen Boris as PM.

    Only that dirty little b*stard, Michael Gove, knifed him in the back.

    , @WhatEvvs
    I think I would have preferred Leadsom - but maybe not. Tell me what to think, I don't know enough about this to have an informed opinion. Leadsom is unusually attractive for a late middle aged woman. May is a Merkel style frump.

    Love BoJo. I am going to enjoy immensely watching him show up Obama. Me no like him.
    , @Hunsdon
    That's hilarious.
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  149. Discard says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    You don’t have to be a graduate of your local college to root for it’s team. Los Angeles is full of USC and UCLA fans who went to neither, or any, college.

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  150. Discard says:
    @syonredux

    There are now two separate American soccer cultures: one white, the other Latino. And while some of the Europhilia can be attributed to the relative newness of American soccer fandom (traditions, I suppose, have to start somewhere), it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe, or why the American media’s coverage of soccer culture, however scant, focuses on soccer bars in gentrified Brooklyn and fan organizations in majority-white cities like Portland, Ore., and Seattle.
     
    Dunno, Anglo-American soccer fans identifying more with Europe than with Latin America seems pretty natural to me.I mean,Kang, this may come as a shock, but Anglo-America and Latin America have very little in common with one another. Indeed, that's one of the big reasons why large scale immigration from Latin America is a really bad idea.

    Judging by Mr Kang, I’d say that immigration from Korea isn’t a very good idea either.

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  151. tbraton says:
    @Maj. Kong
    It's not desperation for them, but rather for whites. While blacks may be losing their favored position in the Democratic Party, and BLM is a Soros-LGBT driven effort to assuage that; they still have the belief that a permanent majority for the left via mass immigration will deliver massive welfare statism.

    YT would then be paying Denmark level taxes for Brazil level results.

    Many don't understand the true intensity and endurance of black racial resentment towards whites. When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it. In the same way that people think that Mr. Brown in Ferguson was shot while surrendering.

    BLM, much like the Tea Party, isn't mobilizing those previously on the fence. It's just turning up the volume of those already prone to 'extreme' politics.

    “When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it.”

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that “lynching” was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of “lynching.” It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I’m sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)

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    "(Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) "

    That's a hundred a year , not ten. Twice a week for seventy years is kind of a lot.
    , @James Kabala
    There a couple hundred a year in the 1880s and 1890s. After that it decreased quite dramatically. Millions is of course absurd, but a couple hundred a year at the peak is a lot.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.)"

    What is also forgotten is that some of those lynched - perhaps many of them - perhaps most of them - were guilty.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    Is that 7,000 number all lynchings total? Including whites lynched by whites, blacks lynched by blacks?
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  152. Discard says:
    @Bill P
    My cousin was a benchwarmer for the Sounders for a couple years. I think I would have made a better pro soccer player than he was, and I'm not just saying that out of sour grapes. He was just too delicate for the game and not that strong. As for me, after the age of 17 I got really tired of athletic drills. Seemed mindless, totally uninteresting and pointless.

    Whatever the case, if young Seattle men are doing something to reclaim their manhood - even if it involves mindless/uninteresting/pointless fandom - I'm all for it. Seattle's mayor is a militant sodomite, its city council has long been dominated by a lesbian faction, and the de facto king of the city is Jeff Bezos, who looks like he just emerged from a mole tunnel.

    I agree. Any open expression of manliness is better than effeminacy. Even rioting Antifas can be salvaged, but you can’t make a man out of a pussy. And if that expression of manliness has some oblique taint of racial pride, so much the better. A hipster’s fedora is Whiter than a baseball cap worn backwards.

    I think that a lot of young SJWs would love to be racists if they had the nerve. It accords with experience, and it frees them of the guilt they’ve been drowning in for all their lives.

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    Discard, No," you can't make a man out of a pussy...", but you can make a hell of a pair of slippers. Stretch to fit any size feet, comfortable and never wear out, but feet will stink. An old Indian, told me that.
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  153. Fredrik says:
    @Ivy
    Soccer fandom obviously is just part of the slippery pitch, er, slope, toward inevitable goosestepping thugs. Looking at the typical Seattle or Portland fan shouldn't make one worry much, at least those among non-Manhattanites.

    I heard Seattle and Portland are Republican bastions. Everyone will be voting for Trump.

    Seriously,
    if white people from Seattle and Portland are problematic then it’s clear it’s white people in general that are problematic. If not even the most liberal are good enough…

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    They tried to hold a circular firing squad by kicking around a soccer ball, and then got bored and went for some Starbucks.
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  154. Bill Buford’s ‘Among the Thugs’ is an entertaining book, but parts of it are obviously fictitious, e.g. a football fan urinating on a woman in a coach and then raping her in the aisle, another fan sucking someone’s eyeball out of their head with his mouth. Well-educated writers like Buford can certainly have some alarming fantasies floating around in their imaginations.

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  155. Klortho says:

    File this one under SWPL.

    I got an enormous kick (in the head) from this video: [Rufus Wainwright leads CHOIR CHOIR CHOIR](https://www.facebook.com/rufuswainwrightofficial/videos/10154319312649321/). Notice anything distinctive about the people in the video?

    Some of the comment threads are fun to read, like this one, where the OP commits the sin of noticing, and suggests they should have hired some token blacks, or something. The first response is has some very helpful panoramic photos of the crowd, picking out three people of color from, I’d guess, well over 100.

    Later, a black woman joins in, ever-so-sweetly wondering where all the black folks are at. And, right away, begins the familiar grievance dance.

    But this commenter is my favorite, because she is such an accomplished signaller. Some choice quotes:

    This is an excellent example of being in harmony together which we so desperately need right now

    … more importantly, no acts of violence against anyone for any reason

    I couldn’t bear to read too many of the comments, but there are definitely other gems to be mined.

    These people are so clueless. I found mysef wanting to post a
    [warning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0).

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  156. @Pagoda
    LOL:

    https://talkpoverty.org/2016/07/13/wake-up-call-white-progressives/

    Man, the comments there are brutal!

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  157. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    The Washingtonites haven't really got the appropriate attitude for football fandom yet
    "No one likes us, we don't care!" (white prole community chorale at 1 minute in).
    I hear the Philadelphia Union are slowly getting it.

    Our new PM/nanny, Mistress Theresa, has the right attitude.
    "Hmmm, who can I make Foreign Secretary? The bloody foreigners all hate us anyway .. I know, Boris!"
    Deliberate trolling of the whole planet. I'm surprised she didn't end the announcement with "U mad bro?"
    Has intentionally insulted Obama (basically accused him of Mau Mau), HRC ("a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital"), The Donald, (not leaving anything to electoral chance there) Erdogan (wrote a poem alleging Turkish PM's proclivity for bestiality), Papuans ("cannibals"), Congolese (murderous piccaninnies, on being visited by Blair "No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down"), on and on it goes.
    Can she make Prince Philip a roving goodwill and race-relations commissar, just to make the point?
    No one likes us, we don't care.

    Millwall F.C.

    The ‘lions’ who play at the ‘den’, the aptly named ‘Cold Blows Lane’ stadium in the god forsaken docklands of the East End.
    Rightly feared as the hardest football firm on the planet.

    Interesting factoid, Isambard Kingdom Brunel’s pioneering steamship ‘The Great Eastern’ was built and launched at Millwall.

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  158. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Expletive Deleted
    The Washingtonites haven't really got the appropriate attitude for football fandom yet
    "No one likes us, we don't care!" (white prole community chorale at 1 minute in).
    I hear the Philadelphia Union are slowly getting it.

    Our new PM/nanny, Mistress Theresa, has the right attitude.
    "Hmmm, who can I make Foreign Secretary? The bloody foreigners all hate us anyway .. I know, Boris!"
    Deliberate trolling of the whole planet. I'm surprised she didn't end the announcement with "U mad bro?"
    Has intentionally insulted Obama (basically accused him of Mau Mau), HRC ("a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital"), The Donald, (not leaving anything to electoral chance there) Erdogan (wrote a poem alleging Turkish PM's proclivity for bestiality), Papuans ("cannibals"), Congolese (murderous piccaninnies, on being visited by Blair "No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down"), on and on it goes.
    Can she make Prince Philip a roving goodwill and race-relations commissar, just to make the point?
    No one likes us, we don't care.

    I would’ve have loved to have seen Boris as PM.

    Only that dirty little b*stard, Michael Gove, knifed him in the back.

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  159. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    It's the sort of article that makes me think, "Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank." And then I realize I can't call him a Korean racial slur because I don't know any. I've never heard one.

    Ethnic slurs often involve the food of the particular group. Spaghetti-bender, burrito-eater, etc. Even Yankee comes from an early American anti-Dutch slur by English (“John Cheese” or “Jan Kees”). So, I once heard a former military guy refer to his old Kia car as a Kimchi clunker. That all I could come up with. There probably aren’t many or any ethnic slur terms for Koreans because the only group which doesn’t like them are blacks.

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  160. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:
    @Cagey Beast
    I saw the same effect in Toronto when a hockey or baseball game brought White people downtown from the outer suburbs. Suddenly the demographic mix goes back to what it was in the '70s or '80s.

    Or back in the pre-gentrification days during a Black Hawks game at the old Chicago Stadium. The Stadium was out on the West Side, which is Chicago’s version of the South Bronx.

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  161. Soccer? I am a white guy and I don’t think that i have watched more than a couple minutes of a soccer game in my life!

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  162. Hunsdon says:

    He says “a dream of an ultimately monochromatic gathering in which thousands of white men can brawl (but safely and without guns!) in the streets and drunkenly sing Phil Collins melodies in pubs, lending a hooligan snarl to a white, suburban culture” like its a bad thing.

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  163. @tbraton
    "When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it."

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that "lynching" was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don't get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of "lynching." It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I'm sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)

    “(Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) ”

    That’s a hundred a year , not ten. Twice a week for seventy years is kind of a lot.

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    Oops. My mistake. You're right. But even 100 a year in a population of nearly 100 million is not especially noteworthy, especially when you take into account, as another poster pointed out, that many of them were probably guilty. That number, btw, pales next to the 141 murders in Chicago the first three months of 2016 and the 468 murders in all of 2015, which, for some reason, receive relatively little attention from the MSM. (I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Chicago is President Obama's adopted home and the city has a Jewish Democrat as mayor who was previously a close aide to Obama in the White House. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/01/murders-shootings-soar-chicago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/

    The more important number, imo, is the total number of lynchings since 1950: about 2, but certainly less than the fingers on one hand (if my memory is correct) according to the Tuskegee Institute. http://www.unz.com/isteve/chris-rocks-oscar-monologue/#comment-1340675 For the record, I greatly overstated the numbers, as did an earlier poster. According to the Tuskegee Institute report quoted in my link above:

    "For a period of 65 years ending in 1947, at least one lynching was reported each year. The most for any year was 231 in 1892. From 1882 to 1901, lynchings averaged more than 150 a year. Since 1924, lynchings have been in a marked decline, never more than 30 cases, which occurred in 1926…”
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  164. @syonredux
    Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like watching women get hit.

    Col. Jeff Cooper observed that fighting is beneath the dignity of a woman, except when she’s fighting for her life. Even in warrior cultures like the vikings, women who would get into brawls were considered unruly and wanton.

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    Col. Jeff Cooper observed that fighting is beneath the dignity of a woman, except when she’s fighting for her life. Even in warrior cultures like the vikings, women who would get into brawls were considered unruly and wanton.
     
    I remember reading a study that involved having people make a fist and report the resulting emotional effects. The men noted that making a fist made them feel powerful, confident, aggressive, etc. The women, in contrast, tended to say that making a fist made them anxious, nervous, fearful, etc.

    Most (i.e., feminine) women are just not emotionally suited for fighting.
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  165. Corvinus says:
    @AndyBoy
    The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries.

    But we have a consistency problem: they have spent two generations pretending they weren't "racist" and in order to remain consistent they have to cling to "color blindness".

    Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy.

    I suspect pointing out the obvious sadism of anti-Whites may be a opening.

    Rory, you really need to take this quote into account–> “To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle”.

    American sports is EVERY indication regarding “tribal instincts”. Americans love winners. They generally do not care what race a team member is, so long as they go out there and perform and win championships. The Olympics in particular is proof positive how white American citizens feel about their non-white American citizens.

    Regarding those Mexicans who cheer on their “home” team at the expense of their “adopted” team when it comes to soccer, it is indicative of the global phenomenon. Those of German descent—you know, whites–also exhibit the same tendencies. Perhaps they should all be deported, too.

    http://fusion.net/story/64913/how-germans-feel-about-team-u-s-s-german-americans/

    “I don’t think it’s a problem,” said Isa Murry, a university student who is married to an American but proudly wore a white T-shirt with a red, gold, and black graphic diagonally across the front. “Right now there are so many players playing for [national] teams where they weren’t born.”

    http://www.wpbf.com/news/soccer-fans-flock-to-american-german-club-to-cheer-for-team/26677694

    “Rolf Behr said admits he’s torn. I was born in Germany and lived most of my life in the U.S, business life for sure and I plan to retire an American citizen. I tend to be more American than German actually,” said Behr. I have German ancestors. I think it’s a toss up. It’s really hard,” said Amy Richardson.”

    “The majority of White people need to be openly pro-White if they are going to keep any countries.”

    No, they need not be. Whites can make their own decisions regarding race, and do not need to be browbeaten by elites such as yourself who insist otherwise.

    “Some movement, some politician, is going to figure out how unleash all that energy.”

    Maybe that someone is you. Why not give it a try?

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  166. Corvinus says:
    @guest
    Color blindness for non-whites is on its way out. For whites, it is intended to last forever. That's the truth that opened my eyes to "race realism": whatever you think of colorblindness, they aren't teaching it to other races. So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides.

    “So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides.”

    People are picking sides, there own. They don’t need you harping on them for “choosing wrong”.

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    "They don't need you harping on them for 'choosing wrong'"

    What are you talking about? If I was harping, and I wasn't, it was at people who think we can live in a society without choosing, which is the impossible raceless utopia.

    Of course, it's possible not to choose. You can sit on the sidelines, like I do come election day.
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  167. poolside says:

    Far be it from me to defend any Seattle hipsters, but if the Texas MLS teams are any indication, there really isn’t much of a Mexican soccer culture to emulate.

    A fat guy banging endlessly on a drum while a handful of people drone on and on isn’t all that inspiring. And throwing bags of urine on opponents is frowned upon in MLS stadia.

    It’s no surprise that the most successful (in attendance) MLS teams reside in primarily white enclaves like Seattle, Portland, Toronto, Vancouver, etc. It’s a struggle to attract both Hispanic and white suburban fans, because catering to one freezes out the other. Just another benefit of diversity!

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    Poolside, Toronto is almost majority minority, but the majority of those minorities are southeast Asian, or Pakis or Asian Indians, and they really have no interest in sports.
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  168. Brutusale says:
    @Anon
    It's the sort of article that makes me think, "Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank." And then I realize I can't call him a Korean racial slur because I don't know any. I've never heard one.

    You’ve probably already used it and don’t know know it! “Gook” came from Hanguk during the Korean War.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hanguk

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  169. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most people don't live where they went to school, so if you want to experience live sports communally, it's going to be a local pro team.

    As for MMA, I get the sense that its popularity is pretty broad, not specifically a hipster thing. But they need to rethink the women's fighting.

    One advantage of women's MMA is that they are smaller and more active then men. And also, the women tend to be attractive. I saw Saturday's card on Periscope and the mens fights were kind of boring, particularly the heavyweights who looked gassed.

    But the problem is that women's ability to punch has outpaced their ability to take punches (watch the video in the tweet below to see what I mean). Saturday's headliner was disturbing to watch. I think the UFC ought to consider more thickly padded gloves and headgear for women.

    https://twitter.com/TedSillanpa/status/752006920895168512

    I dunno, Dave, she got hit in the face about 25 times and still wasn’t out. Those aren’t 8 oz. gloves they’re wearing.

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    The sight of women fighting in public for money as a spectacle is a symbol of a deeply perverted society.
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  170. Brutusale says:
    @Twinkie

    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.
     
    Because Koreans tend to be the most extreme among East Asians whatever they do. When they go full-SWJ, they can be the most shrill of the lot. On theother hand, when they decide to go full-patriotic, they become Navy SEALs, Green Berets, etc. (the modal surname for each graduating class at West Point is often "Kim").

    For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country, with the highest intermarrage rate with whites. Though things are changing with the younger cohorts, the likes of Kang are rare among them.

    They’re not know as “The Irish of Asia” for no reason.

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  171. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @European-American
    I doubt Kang hates white people more than your basic Brooklyn hipster does. He just sees a cultural trend and takes part in it, and does it fairly well. He's just trying to fit in, cut him some slack :) Blame the trend, not the trendster.

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies

    I don’t agree that Kang is as harmless as you make him out to be. And as for Brooklyn hipsters, annoying as they are, isn’t bashing on them getting a little bit old? Maybe it’s my age, but I see them as cute kids trying on various personae. I’ve already seen them get married and have babies. Suddenly the airy-fairy politics becomes less important than Junior’s education. But I digress –

    About Kang, I truly think he is a malignant creep, and yes, dangerous. He is interested in a fellow Korean who became a maniacal mass murderer, and wrote in his vicious troll baseball column (published in the NY Times, not some online rag) “As I grew older, and started feeling alienated from my white classmates…” When I first read that sentence, it chilled me to my guts. He wrote it *after* a racial confederate committed a mass murder, arising from racial alienation. Could a white man write the same? The question answers itself.

    BTW, I disagree with him that baseball doesn’t “captivate young fans”….what fans? My job puts me in contact with a lot of young Dominican guys who have utility infielder positions in the physical therapy industry. One guy I work with adores Bryce Harper (he loves Harper’s strutting machismo) and none of them are particularly racial in their appreciation of baseball players – Dominicans are fanatic baseball fans but they aren’t racialized about their appreciation. At least, I haven’t noticed this.

    Kang is an Asian racist who has been mentally colonized by whiteness. The NY Times is helping him in his racial jihad.

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    (A little late) You may well be right about Kang. And I love hipsters. I usually don't take their politics very seriously because, as you say, they are often airy-fairy. How the craft beer they are busy making relates to their plans for social justice is fuzzy, and who cares: the beer is good and makes the world a better place. That's a tricky thing about political opinion: it often doesn't matter, is just posturing, isn't thought through, etc. You can almost, almost! lead a happy life without caring at all about this particularly diseased form of thought. And many people do...
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  172. Marcus says:

    The Paper of Record, y’all

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  173. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Zoodles
    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.

    Totally agree. I don’t have the same problem at all w/Chinese Americans. I did know one Chinese chick who was of this type but she was batshit, not representative. Koreans are very bad-tempered aggressive people in general.

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  174. Brutusale says:
    @Daniel H
    I caddied for 8 years as a youth. Saw golf very up close. I stand by my observation that the average IQ of the NASCAR crowd is significantly higher than that of the gold crowd.

    Does the lack of blacks in NASCAR, IQ-wise, make up for all the Asians in golf?

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  175. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Twinkie

    Kang just hates white people, that’s all. I’ve met very few E. Asians like him, but those I have met really gave me the creeps.
     
    As I was an East Asian immigrant, I had a greater exposure to East Asians in this country than most Americans.

    I agree that East Asians like this nonsensical tool, Kang, are few in number. The ones I know tend to be either traditional/conservative or un-ideological (but that's probably selection bias on my part). I've run into very few "social justice warriors" of the East Asian stripe, but I think the higher educational establishment is producing more of them today than they did, say, 20-30 years ago. So I expect more of this inanity from younger Americans of Asian descent.

    And those few Asian SJWs - at least from my experience - tend to be quite zealous. They strike me as the latter-day Red Guard. In other words, they are either 1) gullible and are parroting the left-wing pieties of their professors and other establishment authority figures with gusto or are 2) shameless careerists who are trying to out-do the white SWPL/SJW types to fit in and succeed in their world.

    On a separate note, of all the places where grassroots white nationalism might arise, Seattle soccer hipsters are not it. I was stationed south of Seattle at one point and spent time there often. The men there struck me as particularly effeminate and passive-aggressive. Whatever blue collar toughness Seattle once had (logging, shipyard, aircraft factory), it has been sucked out and replaced by limp-wristed, pencil-necked "Portlandia" a long time ago.

    No doubt there will be more Asian SJW’s as this movement metatasizes, but I think Kang is not a true SJW although he shares language & memes with them. I think he is simply an embittered racist. I’m not cutting SJW’s slack, just saying that most of them are young fools who will go on to do something else in 10 years. He won’t. Kang will continue down this path of either self-destruction (I hope), or something worse. He is vile.

    I agree with you that hipster soccer fandom isn’t really a breeding pool for nationalism. I’m puzzled by this whole discussion, so I stayed out of it. Soccer nationalism comes from nationalism which comes from organic deep roots. Without those roots, it’s all just theatrics.

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  176. Hunsdon says:
    @Lagertha
    don't forget: Yoga retreats; Pilates; rock climbing; hiking while wearing Patagonia; paddle boarding; kayaking; windsurfing (who does that anymore?); bike racing; polo; raising chickens in your yard; Pokemon Go...list is too long. Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

    I find the brand name Patagonia to be deeply problematic. It smacks of cultural appropriation. :)

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  177. @SnakeEyes
    This Kang guy is clearly trolling. MLS and all things to do with soccer (sorry - "football") is part of a left wing conspiracy to pussify American males by reducing football (sorry - "gridiron") to also-ran status. Kang did not get his KKKrazy-glue coalition memo on point.

    Yeah, because paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to cheer on and dissipate psychic energy on rapey black aphletes hasn’t pussified them enough

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  178. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    The Washingtonites haven't really got the appropriate attitude for football fandom yet
    "No one likes us, we don't care!" (white prole community chorale at 1 minute in).
    I hear the Philadelphia Union are slowly getting it.

    Our new PM/nanny, Mistress Theresa, has the right attitude.
    "Hmmm, who can I make Foreign Secretary? The bloody foreigners all hate us anyway .. I know, Boris!"
    Deliberate trolling of the whole planet. I'm surprised she didn't end the announcement with "U mad bro?"
    Has intentionally insulted Obama (basically accused him of Mau Mau), HRC ("a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital"), The Donald, (not leaving anything to electoral chance there) Erdogan (wrote a poem alleging Turkish PM's proclivity for bestiality), Papuans ("cannibals"), Congolese (murderous piccaninnies, on being visited by Blair "No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down"), on and on it goes.
    Can she make Prince Philip a roving goodwill and race-relations commissar, just to make the point?
    No one likes us, we don't care.

    I think I would have preferred Leadsom – but maybe not. Tell me what to think, I don’t know enough about this to have an informed opinion. Leadsom is unusually attractive for a late middle aged woman. May is a Merkel style frump.

    Love BoJo. I am going to enjoy immensely watching him show up Obama. Me no like him.

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  179. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Brutusale
    I dunno, Dave, she got hit in the face about 25 times and still wasn't out. Those aren't 8 oz. gloves they're wearing.

    The sight of women fighting in public for money as a spectacle is a symbol of a deeply perverted society.

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  180. @Anonymous
    Yes, 'Among the Thugs', a very interesting book.

    Bill Buford - the editor of Granta, no less, (for the uninitiated, it was, back in the day, the UK's premier literary magazine, being dedicated to 'new, young' literature), embarked on a Hemingwayesque odyssey to taste, experience and participate in the uber prole and loutish traditional English working class past time of soccer violence.
    Buford was actually the real deal and first hand witnessed and participated in the thuggery.
    It's been a long time since I've read the book - which I highly recommend - but a number of instances and anecdotes still stick in my mind.
    One concerns a thug, whom Buford compares to the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz, physically, at least, grabbing a police officer in a bear hug, sucking hard in the orbit of the policeman's eye, managing to suck the eyeball 'half out', and then biting hard on the elevated eyeball blinding the unfortunate policeman. In the 'liberal' Britain of those times, he only got a cursory sentence. The 'cowardly lion' was in civvy street a wealthy businessman owning a string of 'strip-pubs'.
    Another memorable incident was of a platoon of thugs booking a bus to take them to 'away' football games, and using the 'inflight' television of the bus to screen a carefully edited tape showing memorable and historic scenes of mass soccer violence.
    In another incident, which Buford witnessed, a particularly cunning thug managed to switch a London underground railway escalator into 'reverse' mode, causing a mass backward pile up of rival thug bodies cascading downwards. Buford recalled with horror of seeing, in his words, of a 'floppy man' at the the bottom of the pile apparently spastically trying to stand up.

    The book is as horrifying as it is informative.

    That eyeball story may be the most depraved thing I have ever heard. I stopped reading your comment for fear that the remaining anecdotes would (somehow) be even worse!

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    A certain subsection of the lower class of English people - as surprising as many Americans and others who don't know this island well, and are David Niven fixated - are really and truly the vilest personage on the face of this planet.

    It is fact which, formerly at least, was burned into the psyches of English people higher up the socio economic ladder.
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  181. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I went to an (American) football camp in the '80s, and one evening we were having a chat session on multi-sport field with one of the coaches, and he pointed at the soccer goal and said that was the real enemy. I didn't quite get that.

    Anyhow, I think the days of the media writing that are probably behind us. English Premier League soccer broadcast nationally here now, and both international tournaments this summer, the Euros and the Copa America got a lot of coverage.

    And MLS is getting more traction, despite its built-in handicaps (the lack of a feeder system, over-reliance on washed-up European players, etc.).

    If you’re old enough, you’ve been told that soccer is the “next big thing” for 50 years, beginning when the NY Cosmos brought in Pele, Giorgio Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto and Franz Beckenbauer in the mid-Seventies.

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    Brutus, First, I think Kang has Europhallic on his mind. Anyway, I always said I would rather be a soccer player, playing for Inter-Milan who could sing like Pavarotti, then any other man in the world. Oh the women, Italian women.
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  182. @tbraton
    "When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it."

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that "lynching" was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don't get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of "lynching." It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I'm sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)

    There a couple hundred a year in the 1880s and 1890s. After that it decreased quite dramatically. Millions is of course absurd, but a couple hundred a year at the peak is a lot.

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    The 1890's were roughly 120 years ago. (I remember being in high school about 50 years ago and seeing a picture in my American history textbook of the "million man" march organized by the KKK in Washington, D.C., my hometown, back in 1920. That was nearly a hundred years ago. Today it is estimated that the KKK has about 5000 members nationwide.) I saw an article the other day invoking the Supreme Court's "Dred Scott" decision, without noting that it was decided in 1858, nearly 170 years ago, which was followed by the Civil War and the 13th Amendment enacted in 1868 which abolished slavery. The original U.S. constitution, written in 1787, formally acknowledged the institution of slavery. That was a long time ago. A lot has happened since.

    BTW I was recently talking to a friend I have known for close to 20 years. She is Jewish. I knew that her family originally came from Russia in the latter part of the 19th century, but she is probably at least the third generation. When I mentioned present day Russia under Putin, she immediately responded by invoking the "pogroms" against the Russian Jews by forces of the Tsar in the late 19th century, something of which she had absolutely no personal knowledge.
    , @guest
    It is a lot, but what was the context? Just racist whites in the Bad, Old Days? Could the destruction of Southern civilization through war and occupation and the lawless condition of newly freed slaves have something to do with it? We are forbidden, or at least heavily deterred, from inquiring.

    The pitiable history of blacks after the war, beyond what was deliberately done to them by crackers, remains one of the best kept secrets in American history. Because we can't have anyone thinking even one of them might have been better off before the war, nor can we have anyone noticing they're still experiencing and causing the same problems more than a century later. (Though not consistently. Their condition improved, then rapidly declined after the civil rights movement.)
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  183. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Pokemon Go is by far, the stupidest, and deserves the scorn of everyone!

    Saw the following on Twitter today. It's just what you ordered!

    https://twitter.com/SilverVVulpes/status/753200835497189376

    Make certain to lick on the image to get the punch line.

    So, I licked the image and nothing happened but a smear on my computer screen.

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  184. Hunsdon says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    The Washingtonites haven't really got the appropriate attitude for football fandom yet
    "No one likes us, we don't care!" (white prole community chorale at 1 minute in).
    I hear the Philadelphia Union are slowly getting it.

    Our new PM/nanny, Mistress Theresa, has the right attitude.
    "Hmmm, who can I make Foreign Secretary? The bloody foreigners all hate us anyway .. I know, Boris!"
    Deliberate trolling of the whole planet. I'm surprised she didn't end the announcement with "U mad bro?"
    Has intentionally insulted Obama (basically accused him of Mau Mau), HRC ("a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital"), The Donald, (not leaving anything to electoral chance there) Erdogan (wrote a poem alleging Turkish PM's proclivity for bestiality), Papuans ("cannibals"), Congolese (murderous piccaninnies, on being visited by Blair "No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down"), on and on it goes.
    Can she make Prince Philip a roving goodwill and race-relations commissar, just to make the point?
    No one likes us, we don't care.

    That’s hilarious.

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  185. Mr. Anon says:
    @tbraton
    "When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it."

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that "lynching" was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don't get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of "lynching." It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I'm sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)

    “When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.)”

    What is also forgotten is that some of those lynched – perhaps many of them – perhaps most of them – were guilty.

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  186. Mr. Anon says:
    @BenKenobi
    That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons.

    As to the article: I really enjoyed how he characterized the Dark side as the White side.

    Be careful what you wish for, Kang.

    “That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons.”

    Commander Kang (Michael Ansara) would disagree.

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  187. @Yak-15
    "Fat Guy Falls Down" humor bridges all cultures and races.

    “Fat Guy Falls Down” humor bridges all cultures and races.

    On iSteve, it’s “Fat Guy Falls Down on Trolley Tracks.”

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  188. @Cagey Beast
    I saw the same effect in Toronto when a hockey or baseball game brought White people downtown from the outer suburbs. Suddenly the demographic mix goes back to what it was in the '70s or '80s.

    Indeed. I live in Toronto and have noticed this too. I’m often astounded at how much more fit, attractive and simply pleasant the white women from the outer burbs and surrounding small towns are over the female denizens of Toronto proper. Living in a city full of South Asian, Asian and Middle Eastern, and feminist pear-shaped and/or horse-faced White women, I often forget just how attractive your run-of -the-mill non defective White woman is. I’m sure many White women in Toronto who meet the latter description (and even those who meet the former) would observe similar traits in the men who flock to the city for sports events, but do not live here.

    That may sound harsh, but sadly it’s true. I’m tired of not believing my lying eyes!

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  189. slumber_j says:
    @Alec Leamas
    I take this as a reference to the frequent failures of the Korean missile program?

    Particularly the Nodong?

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  190. tbraton says:
    @James Kabala
    There a couple hundred a year in the 1880s and 1890s. After that it decreased quite dramatically. Millions is of course absurd, but a couple hundred a year at the peak is a lot.

    The 1890′s were roughly 120 years ago. (I remember being in high school about 50 years ago and seeing a picture in my American history textbook of the “million man” march organized by the KKK in Washington, D.C., my hometown, back in 1920. That was nearly a hundred years ago. Today it is estimated that the KKK has about 5000 members nationwide.) I saw an article the other day invoking the Supreme Court’s “Dred Scott” decision, without noting that it was decided in 1858, nearly 170 years ago, which was followed by the Civil War and the 13th Amendment enacted in 1868 which abolished slavery. The original U.S. constitution, written in 1787, formally acknowledged the institution of slavery. That was a long time ago. A lot has happened since.

    BTW I was recently talking to a friend I have known for close to 20 years. She is Jewish. I knew that her family originally came from Russia in the latter part of the 19th century, but she is probably at least the third generation. When I mentioned present day Russia under Putin, she immediately responded by invoking the “pogroms” against the Russian Jews by forces of the Tsar in the late 19th century, something of which she had absolutely no personal knowledge.

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  191. guest says:
    @James Kabala
    There a couple hundred a year in the 1880s and 1890s. After that it decreased quite dramatically. Millions is of course absurd, but a couple hundred a year at the peak is a lot.

    It is a lot, but what was the context? Just racist whites in the Bad, Old Days? Could the destruction of Southern civilization through war and occupation and the lawless condition of newly freed slaves have something to do with it? We are forbidden, or at least heavily deterred, from inquiring.

    The pitiable history of blacks after the war, beyond what was deliberately done to them by crackers, remains one of the best kept secrets in American history. Because we can’t have anyone thinking even one of them might have been better off before the war, nor can we have anyone noticing they’re still experiencing and causing the same problems more than a century later. (Though not consistently. Their condition improved, then rapidly declined after the civil rights movement.)

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  192. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Escape from Chicagoland

    That’s why I suggested thicker gloves and headgear might be in order.
     
    That will result in the fighters being able to hit even harder.

    At some point the thicker gloves begin to provide protection to the ones getting hit. That’s why people spar with big gloves on.

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  193. tbraton says:
    @Anonymous
    Yes, 'Among the Thugs', a very interesting book.

    Bill Buford - the editor of Granta, no less, (for the uninitiated, it was, back in the day, the UK's premier literary magazine, being dedicated to 'new, young' literature), embarked on a Hemingwayesque odyssey to taste, experience and participate in the uber prole and loutish traditional English working class past time of soccer violence.
    Buford was actually the real deal and first hand witnessed and participated in the thuggery.
    It's been a long time since I've read the book - which I highly recommend - but a number of instances and anecdotes still stick in my mind.
    One concerns a thug, whom Buford compares to the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz, physically, at least, grabbing a police officer in a bear hug, sucking hard in the orbit of the policeman's eye, managing to suck the eyeball 'half out', and then biting hard on the elevated eyeball blinding the unfortunate policeman. In the 'liberal' Britain of those times, he only got a cursory sentence. The 'cowardly lion' was in civvy street a wealthy businessman owning a string of 'strip-pubs'.
    Another memorable incident was of a platoon of thugs booking a bus to take them to 'away' football games, and using the 'inflight' television of the bus to screen a carefully edited tape showing memorable and historic scenes of mass soccer violence.
    In another incident, which Buford witnessed, a particularly cunning thug managed to switch a London underground railway escalator into 'reverse' mode, causing a mass backward pile up of rival thug bodies cascading downwards. Buford recalled with horror of seeing, in his words, of a 'floppy man' at the the bottom of the pile apparently spastically trying to stand up.

    The book is as horrifying as it is informative.

    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80′s before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    “He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King’s College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term “dirty realism”.”

    I haven’t read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a “B.”

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    I haven’t read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a “B.”
     
    You mean Bill Bryson.

    I just realised - I think I've been confusing the two of them as well!
    , @Anonymous
    The two Bills, Bryson and Buford, couldn't be more different in terms of literary output.

    Bill Bryson is your typical 'nice' mid western American, the archetypal 'gentle, bearded leftwinger' a transplanted yank and honorary Englishman who delights in writing about tales of old steam engines - or the best, most readable and gently amusing account of 'life the universe and everything' you'll ever read in your life.

    No thug him. More real ale, Labrador dog, pipe and slippers.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    And also not to be muddled up with Bill Bruford, retired prog/jazz drummer, who bestrode the "non-trivial popular music" scene (is there such a category?) like a colossus when I was younger, even more than Bonzo or Ginger.
    , @Brutusale
    Buford's "Heat", where he trained and tried cooking in higher-end restaurants, was pretty good. He was such a klutz in the kitchen that the sous chef at Babbo used to intentionally splatter him with hot oil when he got in the way.
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  194. res says:
    @BenKenobi
    That was Khan. Kang and Kodos are the aliens from The Simpsons.

    As to the article: I really enjoyed how he characterized the Dark side as the White side.

    Be careful what you wish for, Kang.

    Actually, Trelane was right: http://www.startrek.com/database_article/kang

    Khan was a genetically modified human from the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh

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    Thank you for the corrections, res and Mr Anon.

    I hope it's obvious that Star Trek isn't in my wheelhouse.

    Actually, I'm not even a Star Wars fanboy, just a dude named 'Ben' who's got enough genuine class to be compared to Alec Guiness.

    Now how's that for a Simpsons reference?
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  195. Ivy says:
    @Fredrik
    I heard Seattle and Portland are Republican bastions. Everyone will be voting for Trump.

    Seriously,
    if white people from Seattle and Portland are problematic then it's clear it's white people in general that are problematic. If not even the most liberal are good enough...

    They tried to hold a circular firing squad by kicking around a soccer ball, and then got bored and went for some Starbucks.

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  196. @Brutusale
    If you're old enough, you've been told that soccer is the "next big thing" for 50 years, beginning when the NY Cosmos brought in Pele, Giorgio Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto and Franz Beckenbauer in the mid-Seventies.

    Brutus, First, I think Kang has Europhallic on his mind. Anyway, I always said I would rather be a soccer player, playing for Inter-Milan who could sing like Pavarotti, then any other man in the world. Oh the women, Italian women.

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  197. @Discard
    I agree. Any open expression of manliness is better than effeminacy. Even rioting Antifas can be salvaged, but you can't make a man out of a pussy. And if that expression of manliness has some oblique taint of racial pride, so much the better. A hipster's fedora is Whiter than a baseball cap worn backwards.

    I think that a lot of young SJWs would love to be racists if they had the nerve. It accords with experience, and it frees them of the guilt they've been drowning in for all their lives.

    Discard, No,” you can’t make a man out of a pussy…”, but you can make a hell of a pair of slippers. Stretch to fit any size feet, comfortable and never wear out, but feet will stink. An old Indian, told me that.

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    Surely - and crudely - only the Australian aborigines never made the connection with the converse of that proposition.
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  198. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @James Kabala
    That eyeball story may be the most depraved thing I have ever heard. I stopped reading your comment for fear that the remaining anecdotes would (somehow) be even worse!

    A certain subsection of the lower class of English people – as surprising as many Americans and others who don’t know this island well, and are David Niven fixated – are really and truly the vilest personage on the face of this planet.

    It is fact which, formerly at least, was burned into the psyches of English people higher up the socio economic ladder.

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    I find Jeremy Kyle's show most enlightening. (Look it up on YouTube.)
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  199. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Buffalo Joe
    Discard, No," you can't make a man out of a pussy...", but you can make a hell of a pair of slippers. Stretch to fit any size feet, comfortable and never wear out, but feet will stink. An old Indian, told me that.

    Surely – and crudely – only the Australian aborigines never made the connection with the converse of that proposition.

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  200. syonredux says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Col. Jeff Cooper observed that fighting is beneath the dignity of a woman, except when she's fighting for her life. Even in warrior cultures like the vikings, women who would get into brawls were considered unruly and wanton.

    Col. Jeff Cooper observed that fighting is beneath the dignity of a woman, except when she’s fighting for her life. Even in warrior cultures like the vikings, women who would get into brawls were considered unruly and wanton.

    I remember reading a study that involved having people make a fist and report the resulting emotional effects. The men noted that making a fist made them feel powerful, confident, aggressive, etc. The women, in contrast, tended to say that making a fist made them anxious, nervous, fearful, etc.

    Most (i.e., feminine) women are just not emotionally suited for fighting.

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  201. syonredux says:
    @guest
    There may not be much of a difference now; people nowadays don't draw much of a distinction between white people at all, unless they talk funny. But we're talking about the whole scope of presidential history. If you asked the Yankee ruling class in 1900, for instance, I'm pretty sure they'd have something to say about being lumped in with Micks n Macs.

    There may not be much of a difference now; people nowadays don’t draw much of a distinction between white people at all, unless they talk funny. But we’re talking about the whole scope of presidential history. If you asked the Yankee ruling class in 1900, for instance, I’m pretty sure they’d have something to say about being lumped in with Micks n Macs.

    With the Catholic Irish, sure. They were outside the WASP circle. With the Protestant Scots, it was quite different.

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  202. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous
    Yes, 'Among the Thugs', a very interesting book.

    Bill Buford - the editor of Granta, no less, (for the uninitiated, it was, back in the day, the UK's premier literary magazine, being dedicated to 'new, young' literature), embarked on a Hemingwayesque odyssey to taste, experience and participate in the uber prole and loutish traditional English working class past time of soccer violence.
    Buford was actually the real deal and first hand witnessed and participated in the thuggery.
    It's been a long time since I've read the book - which I highly recommend - but a number of instances and anecdotes still stick in my mind.
    One concerns a thug, whom Buford compares to the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz, physically, at least, grabbing a police officer in a bear hug, sucking hard in the orbit of the policeman's eye, managing to suck the eyeball 'half out', and then biting hard on the elevated eyeball blinding the unfortunate policeman. In the 'liberal' Britain of those times, he only got a cursory sentence. The 'cowardly lion' was in civvy street a wealthy businessman owning a string of 'strip-pubs'.
    Another memorable incident was of a platoon of thugs booking a bus to take them to 'away' football games, and using the 'inflight' television of the bus to screen a carefully edited tape showing memorable and historic scenes of mass soccer violence.
    In another incident, which Buford witnessed, a particularly cunning thug managed to switch a London underground railway escalator into 'reverse' mode, causing a mass backward pile up of rival thug bodies cascading downwards. Buford recalled with horror of seeing, in his words, of a 'floppy man' at the the bottom of the pile apparently spastically trying to stand up.

    The book is as horrifying as it is informative.

    Green Street Hooligans: Elijah Wood plays a Yank who was expelled from Harvard who goes to the UK and immerses himself in the soccer hooligan lifestyle

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  203. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous
    Yes, 'Among the Thugs', a very interesting book.

    Bill Buford - the editor of Granta, no less, (for the uninitiated, it was, back in the day, the UK's premier literary magazine, being dedicated to 'new, young' literature), embarked on a Hemingwayesque odyssey to taste, experience and participate in the uber prole and loutish traditional English working class past time of soccer violence.
    Buford was actually the real deal and first hand witnessed and participated in the thuggery.
    It's been a long time since I've read the book - which I highly recommend - but a number of instances and anecdotes still stick in my mind.
    One concerns a thug, whom Buford compares to the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz, physically, at least, grabbing a police officer in a bear hug, sucking hard in the orbit of the policeman's eye, managing to suck the eyeball 'half out', and then biting hard on the elevated eyeball blinding the unfortunate policeman. In the 'liberal' Britain of those times, he only got a cursory sentence. The 'cowardly lion' was in civvy street a wealthy businessman owning a string of 'strip-pubs'.
    Another memorable incident was of a platoon of thugs booking a bus to take them to 'away' football games, and using the 'inflight' television of the bus to screen a carefully edited tape showing memorable and historic scenes of mass soccer violence.
    In another incident, which Buford witnessed, a particularly cunning thug managed to switch a London underground railway escalator into 'reverse' mode, causing a mass backward pile up of rival thug bodies cascading downwards. Buford recalled with horror of seeing, in his words, of a 'floppy man' at the the bottom of the pile apparently spastically trying to stand up.

    The book is as horrifying as it is informative.

    Fight scene from Green Street Hooligans

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    The Football Factory, if somebody feels like an English hooliganism double feature.

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  204. @Lurker
    The Belgian cuck getting knocked down is superb. Poetry! The way his glasses fly away is a nice cartoon-like touch as well.

    As I tried to explain to a friend, when you get right down to it, who is likely to stop another terrorist attack - a fat liberal at a useless, passive candlelit vigil or the guy who knocked him down?

    That punch is the one we all fantasize ourselves delivering should the need arise. A single, clean, knockout blow.

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  205. Lurker says:
    @tbraton
    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80's before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    "He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King's College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term "dirty realism"."

    I haven't read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a "B."

    I haven’t read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a “B.”

    You mean Bill Bryson.

    I just realised – I think I’ve been confusing the two of them as well!

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    "You mean Bill Bryson.

    I just realised – I think I’ve been confusing the two of them as well!"

    He is exactly who I was confusing him with. Out of curiosity, I looked him up, and he is definitely the one I had in mind. I actually bought and read one of his English language books, "Made in America," which is still somewhere on one of my shelves. I was going to post, but you beat me to the punch. Glad to see that someone else made the same mistake. I guess I can cancel that appointment to check for Alzheimers. BTW Buford sounds pretty interesting. I am going to order his book.
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  206. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Another anecdote concerning good ol’ fashioned English soccer thuggery is to be found in a magazine article written by the novelist Tony Parsons.

    Parsons has or had a long standing interest in the game, an interest poisoned by the general loutishness of the lower class thugs who made up a goodly part of the audience, back in the day.

    In the GQ magazine article, Parsons noted his revulsion at the open and brazen snorting of ‘charlie’ and smoking of ‘blow’ exhibited by the louts. Whilst this was occurring, one thug kept on ‘elaborately and persistently breaking wind’, as Parsons memorably put it. The distinguishing characteristic of this scurvy crudery was that the farter had a penchant for yelling out loud the slogan ‘Kentucky Fried!!!’ at the top of his lungs after each and every flatulation, for bizarre reasons best known to himself.
    His ‘mates’ ‘roared’ – as Parsons put it – after each evacuatory display.

    Such is the caliber of the lout.

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  207. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @tbraton
    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80's before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    "He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King's College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term "dirty realism"."

    I haven't read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a "B."

    The two Bills, Bryson and Buford, couldn’t be more different in terms of literary output.

    Bill Bryson is your typical ‘nice’ mid western American, the archetypal ‘gentle, bearded leftwinger’ a transplanted yank and honorary Englishman who delights in writing about tales of old steam engines – or the best, most readable and gently amusing account of ‘life the universe and everything’ you’ll ever read in your life.

    No thug him. More real ale, Labrador dog, pipe and slippers.

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    I was confusing one "Bill B." with another "Bill B." Based on the descriptions in the thread, it didn't sound anything like what I read by Bill Bryson. That's why I went to the trouble to resolve the dissonance. (Actually the Bryson name popped into my mind just as I was typing on Google. Once I remembered the name and confirmed it on Google, I realized my mistake.) BTW I read on Wikipedia that Bill Bryson returned to England with his family about 10 years ago to teach, which is in accord with your description of his personality.
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  208. @Zoodles
    I don;t know why but the very worst of this sort from east asia tend to be Koreans.

    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.

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    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.
     
    Back before my wife and I had kids, we'd occasionally hit comedy clubs. When Cho was first starting out, she was "sorta" funny. Her routine about her parents, in particular, was very good and universal - who can't relate to goofy parents?

    Then she went all Jeanine Garofalo and her routines seemed to have degenerated into Bush-bashing and other sundry and tired left-wing ranting.

    For my money, the funniest comedian of Asian descent in the United States is another Cho (unrelated) - Henry Cho: https://youtu.be/WH8E_nkDNDo

    He's a good ol' Southern boy from Knoxville, Tennessee.
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  209. ErisGuy says:

    To call this article insane and ignorant is to damn it with faint praise.

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  210. Whiskey says: • Website

    Regarding Lynching, the Tuskegee Institute estimated a bit over 7,000 from 1890 to 1980; most falling in the early parts up to 1920. A bit under HALF were White victims, and it is important to remember WHY the Lynching occurred — no reliable justice system.

    “Eternity Street” by an LAT reporter covers the history of vigilante violence in LA starting with the Mexican colony. Over and over again the same things happen — criminals run rampant with no punishment and no judge in the capital willing to sign off on capital punishment out of fear (of the criminals confederates or bribery or buck-passing) and so a frustrated leadership including retired judges, landowners, shop owners, not the dregs of society but its leadership takes vigilante action.

    For example, one notable lynching was of a White murderer given clemency (he’d killed a White man his room-mate) in the early 1860s to balance out the condemned to death Mexican murderer who killed a White man (for being White). It was felt important by the White lynchers who were in fact the leadership of LA at the time to reassure the Mexican population that there would be equal death penalties for both White and Mexican murderers, and note there were no Blacks involved at all. Lynching happened because a justice system could not and would not punish murderers so the violence just spiraled higher and higher — and the leadership not an illiterate mob stepped in to stop it.

    That’s a common happening in US history at the frontier with no real justice system and corruption and buck-passing by distant central authorities, causing local leaders to step in.

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  211. tbraton says:
    @kaganovitch
    "(Don’t get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) "

    That's a hundred a year , not ten. Twice a week for seventy years is kind of a lot.

    Oops. My mistake. You’re right. But even 100 a year in a population of nearly 100 million is not especially noteworthy, especially when you take into account, as another poster pointed out, that many of them were probably guilty. That number, btw, pales next to the 141 murders in Chicago the first three months of 2016 and the 468 murders in all of 2015, which, for some reason, receive relatively little attention from the MSM. (I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Chicago is President Obama’s adopted home and the city has a Jewish Democrat as mayor who was previously a close aide to Obama in the White House. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/01/murders-shootings-soar-chicago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/

    The more important number, imo, is the total number of lynchings since 1950: about 2, but certainly less than the fingers on one hand (if my memory is correct) according to the Tuskegee Institute. http://www.unz.com/isteve/chris-rocks-oscar-monologue/#comment-1340675 For the record, I greatly overstated the numbers, as did an earlier poster. According to the Tuskegee Institute report quoted in my link above:

    “For a period of 65 years ending in 1947, at least one lynching was reported each year. The most for any year was 231 in 1892. From 1882 to 1901, lynchings averaged more than 150 a year. Since 1924, lynchings have been in a marked decline, never more than 30 cases, which occurred in 1926…”

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  212. @Twinkie

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies
     
    He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his "insights" "interesting."

    OK sorry I may have oversold him :)

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  213. tbraton says:
    @Lurker

    I haven’t read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a “B.”
     
    You mean Bill Bryson.

    I just realised - I think I've been confusing the two of them as well!

    “You mean Bill Bryson.

    I just realised – I think I’ve been confusing the two of them as well!”

    He is exactly who I was confusing him with. Out of curiosity, I looked him up, and he is definitely the one I had in mind. I actually bought and read one of his English language books, “Made in America,” which is still somewhere on one of my shelves. I was going to post, but you beat me to the punch. Glad to see that someone else made the same mistake. I guess I can cancel that appointment to check for Alzheimers. BTW Buford sounds pretty interesting. I am going to order his book.

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  214. IBC says:

    it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe

    Don’t millions of soccer fans in Latin America also look “longingly” to Western Europe? Does the name Real Madrid ring a bell for this author?

    With soccer’s roots in Europe and elite professional teams there drawing players from around the world, it’d be very strange if American soccer fans didn’t emulate European soccer customs before those of say, the Guatemalan farm leagues. And even Guatemalans, are likely to esteem FC Barcelona more highly than local teams; prestige brings influence. For example, do European basketball fans care at all about the culture of the NBA beyond just learning the official rules of the game? Or, are American Taekwondo enthusiasts interested in any aspects of Korean martial arts beyond the dojang?

    When I was in Mexico a few years ago, there was a soccer match between the US and Mexican teams in the regional city I was visiting –Mexico won. After the game, I was out walking and saw several cars and pickup trucks driving around with groups of young men and women hanging out of them, blasting horns, and chanting songs and slogans. As they’d pass me, they’d honk several times, pointing and shouting ¡Gringo! ¡Gringo! It wasn’t my favorite experience there and such behavior could be seen as rude and a little threatening: but then again it was only some people and it wasn’t like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans. Apparently, what I experienced is a fairly common part of Mexican soccer culture –OK, but why would the NYT really think that that sort of thing is much better than what they’re now doing in Seattle?

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    but then again it was only some people and it wasn’t like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans
     
    I must spring to the defence of my hooligan compatriots!

    The elite firms of hooligans would largely fight other elite firms or at least fight overt fans from other teams. And the police of course. There was no kudos in attacking 'civilians'.

    Furthermore there are plenty of other European 'ultras' around, it's not just an English issue.

    Russian ultras:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/14/07/352E041800000578-3640021-Ready_for_battle_Russian_ultras_are_not_only_the_most_vicious_sp-a-11_1465886681071.jpg

    Italian ultras (exhibiting some robust political imagery):

    http://st.ilfattoquotidiano.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ultras-fascisti-640.jpg
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  215. @Anonymous
    A certain subsection of the lower class of English people - as surprising as many Americans and others who don't know this island well, and are David Niven fixated - are really and truly the vilest personage on the face of this planet.

    It is fact which, formerly at least, was burned into the psyches of English people higher up the socio economic ladder.

    I find Jeremy Kyle’s show most enlightening. (Look it up on YouTube.)

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  216. guest says:
    @Corvinus
    "So the raceless utopia will never come, and you better pick sides."

    People are picking sides, there own. They don't need you harping on them for "choosing wrong".

    “They don’t need you harping on them for ‘choosing wrong’”

    What are you talking about? If I was harping, and I wasn’t, it was at people who think we can live in a society without choosing, which is the impossible raceless utopia.

    Of course, it’s possible not to choose. You can sit on the sidelines, like I do come election day.

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  217. IBC says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Unfortunately NASCAR can't wait to sell us out. NASCAR needs to be punished, or at least the witless fools that run their organization (probably a bunch of damn SJWs).
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  218. Svigor says:

    “Slope” works for all east Asians, as far as I’m concerned. But Japs call ‘em “garlic-eaters,” IIRC. Probably anything involving garlic will do; garlic-head, garlic-face, garlic-boy, etc.

    Sorry Steve, didn’t mean it “works” in the sense that east Asians are all “slopes,” or anything. I just meant that you can refer to east Asians with it and it’s not going to sound like you’re calling a redneck a guido. Bad choice of words.

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    "Garlic eaters" and other garlic derived terms don't really work here because we associate garlic with Italy and "garlic eaters" is, or at least was, a slur for Italians. In "It's a Wonderful Life", Mr. Potter refers to Italians as "garlic eaters".
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  219. IBC says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Mexican-Americans love La Cucaracha and the Mexican Hat Dance. They also love to watch to funny fat dopes in giant sombreros and mustaches act dumb. It's a highly non-ironic culture.

    Clowns seem to be pretty popular in Mexico, but they used to be popular here too. Interestingly, I was told that Mexicans usually prefer American movies because too many Mexican movies are about social issues: If your own life’s a “social issue,” why would you pay money to go see it on the big screen?

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  220. Uh-oh. So with this article, it looks like the anti-White Eye of Sauros has officially cast its gaze on the rapidly gentrifying Pacific Northwest.

    As rents double or quadruple here in Portland every year, government officials are desperate to stop or reverse the city’s despicable Whitening by seeking to set aside sections of housing specifically for non-White people — they have openly called for this! But, much to their horror, this is ILLEGAL, so the handwringing continues unabated as Portland gets Whiter literally by the hour and blacks are forced to the hinterlands of shamefully unfashionable Gresham, Beaverton, Tigard, Milwaukie, and Salem.

    I heart Portland!

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  221. @Dave Pinsen
    Just scrolled through some of the comments there -- a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a badwhite...

    “Just scrolled through some of the comments there — a lot of pissed off SWPLs!

    At first they came for badwhite culture like Nascar, and I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a badwhite…”

    Ha ha! Thanks for the LOLz.

    Related to SWPL disingenuous White liberals, the local newspapers in Portland, whenever they cover a local concert or festival, will print photographs almost strictly of blacks and/or White female/black male couples. And when they instead draw theoretical denizens of Portland, it’s always dark-skinned people and mixed-race couples, especially tons of White male/black female couples, LOL! — I guess it’s too hard to find any OBSERVABLE instance of this rarest hybrid in the wild, so they resort to drawings.

    As Portland gets Whiter literally by the hour, the SWPLs here are manically amplifying their anti-White pro-Diversity proclamations to drown out that little voice in their head saying: “I love White people, and that’s why I choose to live around them!”

    This is a wonderful and hilarious time to be a Noticer in Portland, OR.

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  222. iffen says:
    @Anon
    It's the sort of article that makes me think, "Kang, shut up you little blank blank blank." And then I realize I can't call him a Korean racial slur because I don't know any. I've never heard one.

    Call him a failed Chinaman.

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  223. tbraton says:
    @Anonymous
    The two Bills, Bryson and Buford, couldn't be more different in terms of literary output.

    Bill Bryson is your typical 'nice' mid western American, the archetypal 'gentle, bearded leftwinger' a transplanted yank and honorary Englishman who delights in writing about tales of old steam engines - or the best, most readable and gently amusing account of 'life the universe and everything' you'll ever read in your life.

    No thug him. More real ale, Labrador dog, pipe and slippers.

    I was confusing one “Bill B.” with another “Bill B.” Based on the descriptions in the thread, it didn’t sound anything like what I read by Bill Bryson. That’s why I went to the trouble to resolve the dissonance. (Actually the Bryson name popped into my mind just as I was typing on Google. Once I remembered the name and confirmed it on Google, I realized my mistake.) BTW I read on Wikipedia that Bill Bryson returned to England with his family about 10 years ago to teach, which is in accord with your description of his personality.

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  224. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor
    “Slope” works for all east Asians, as far as I’m concerned. But Japs call ‘em “garlic-eaters,” IIRC. Probably anything involving garlic will do; garlic-head, garlic-face, garlic-boy, etc.
     Sorry Steve, didn't mean it "works" in the sense that east Asians are all "slopes," or anything. I just meant that you can refer to east Asians with it and it's not going to sound like you're calling a redneck a guido. Bad choice of words.

    “Garlic eaters” and other garlic derived terms don’t really work here because we associate garlic with Italy and “garlic eaters” is, or at least was, a slur for Italians. In “It’s a Wonderful Life”, Mr. Potter refers to Italians as “garlic eaters”.

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  225. @tbraton
    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80's before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    "He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King's College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term "dirty realism"."

    I haven't read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a "B."

    And also not to be muddled up with Bill Bruford, retired prog/jazz drummer, who bestrode the “non-trivial popular music” scene (is there such a category?) like a colossus when I was younger, even more than Bonzo or Ginger.

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    Thanks. That's all my overstuffed memory needs, a third "Bill B." floating around to confuse me even more.
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  226. Prokop says:
    @syonredux
    Fight scene from Green Street Hooligans


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tqt4GCqCk

    The Football Factory, if somebody feels like an English hooliganism double feature.

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  227. Brutusale says:
    @tbraton
    For those unfamiliar with Bill Buford, he is an American who eventually went to Cambridge and remained in England through the 80's before returning to the States to join The New Yorker. According to Wikipedia:

    "He was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and raised in Southern California, attending the University of California at Berkeley before moving to King's College, University of Cambridge, where he studied as a Marshall Scholar. He remained in England for most of the 1980s.
    Buford was previously the fiction editor for The New Yorker, where he is still on staff. For sixteen years, he was the editor of Granta, which he relaunched in 1979.
    Buford is credited with coining the term "dirty realism"."

    I haven't read any of his works and confused him with another American writer who spent some time in England before returning to the States and whose name also starts with a "B."

    Buford’s “Heat”, where he trained and tried cooking in higher-end restaurants, was pretty good. He was such a klutz in the kitchen that the sous chef at Babbo used to intentionally splatter him with hot oil when he got in the way.

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  228. @poolside
    Far be it from me to defend any Seattle hipsters, but if the Texas MLS teams are any indication, there really isn't much of a Mexican soccer culture to emulate.

    A fat guy banging endlessly on a drum while a handful of people drone on and on isn't all that inspiring. And throwing bags of urine on opponents is frowned upon in MLS stadia.

    It's no surprise that the most successful (in attendance) MLS teams reside in primarily white enclaves like Seattle, Portland, Toronto, Vancouver, etc. It's a struggle to attract both Hispanic and white suburban fans, because catering to one freezes out the other. Just another benefit of diversity!

    Poolside, Toronto is almost majority minority, but the majority of those minorities are southeast Asian, or Pakis or Asian Indians, and they really have no interest in sports.

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  229. tbraton says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    And also not to be muddled up with Bill Bruford, retired prog/jazz drummer, who bestrode the "non-trivial popular music" scene (is there such a category?) like a colossus when I was younger, even more than Bonzo or Ginger.

    Thanks. That’s all my overstuffed memory needs, a third “Bill B.” floating around to confuse me even more.

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    Hey, let's not forget a fourth "Bill B." while we are at it: Bill Buckner, the infamous first baseman for the 86 Red Sox who continued the "Curse of the Bambino" for yet another year: "In the wee hours of the morning on October 26, 1986, Red Sox first baseman Bill Buckner lets an easy ground ball dribble between his legs and roll down the right-field line." My head is about to explode.
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    @tbraton
    Thanks. That's all my overstuffed memory needs, a third "Bill B." floating around to confuse me even more.

    Hey, let’s not forget a fourth “Bill B.” while we are at it: Bill Buckner, the infamous first baseman for the 86 Red Sox who continued the “Curse of the Bambino” for yet another year: “In the wee hours of the morning on October 26, 1986, Red Sox first baseman Bill Buckner lets an easy ground ball dribble between his legs and roll down the right-field line.” My head is about to explode.

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  231. Lurker says:
    @IBC

    it’s worth asking why soccer fans in a country with millions of immigrants from soccer-crazed countries in Central and South America would look so longingly toward Western Europe
     
    Don't millions of soccer fans in Latin America also look "longingly" to Western Europe? Does the name Real Madrid ring a bell for this author?

    With soccer's roots in Europe and elite professional teams there drawing players from around the world, it'd be very strange if American soccer fans didn't emulate European soccer customs before those of say, the Guatemalan farm leagues. And even Guatemalans, are likely to esteem FC Barcelona more highly than local teams; prestige brings influence. For example, do European basketball fans care at all about the culture of the NBA beyond just learning the official rules of the game? Or, are American Taekwondo enthusiasts interested in any aspects of Korean martial arts beyond the dojang?

    When I was in Mexico a few years ago, there was a soccer match between the US and Mexican teams in the regional city I was visiting --Mexico won. After the game, I was out walking and saw several cars and pickup trucks driving around with groups of young men and women hanging out of them, blasting horns, and chanting songs and slogans. As they'd pass me, they'd honk several times, pointing and shouting ¡Gringo! ¡Gringo! It wasn't my favorite experience there and such behavior could be seen as rude and a little threatening: but then again it was only some people and it wasn't like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans. Apparently, what I experienced is a fairly common part of Mexican soccer culture --OK, but why would the NYT really think that that sort of thing is much better than what they're now doing in Seattle?

    but then again it was only some people and it wasn’t like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans

    I must spring to the defence of my hooligan compatriots!

    The elite firms of hooligans would largely fight other elite firms or at least fight overt fans from other teams. And the police of course. There was no kudos in attacking ‘civilians’.

    Furthermore there are plenty of other European ‘ultras’ around, it’s not just an English issue.

    Russian ultras:

    Italian ultras (exhibiting some robust political imagery):

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    Fair enough, but I picked on the English hooligans because of their long public presence and also the outsized influence that English soccer has had.

    Come to think of it, rugby doesn't seem to have as much of a problem with violent fans --the violence is among the players themselves. Are there rugby "firms" as well? Is its fan base somehow different?

    , @Brutusale
    Maybe other Euro types here can comment, but expats I know say the Dutch can hooligan with the best of the. True?
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  232. IBC says:
    @Lurker

    but then again it was only some people and it wasn’t like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans
     
    I must spring to the defence of my hooligan compatriots!

    The elite firms of hooligans would largely fight other elite firms or at least fight overt fans from other teams. And the police of course. There was no kudos in attacking 'civilians'.

    Furthermore there are plenty of other European 'ultras' around, it's not just an English issue.

    Russian ultras:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/14/07/352E041800000578-3640021-Ready_for_battle_Russian_ultras_are_not_only_the_most_vicious_sp-a-11_1465886681071.jpg

    Italian ultras (exhibiting some robust political imagery):

    http://st.ilfattoquotidiano.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ultras-fascisti-640.jpg

    Fair enough, but I picked on the English hooligans because of their long public presence and also the outsized influence that English soccer has had.

    Come to think of it, rugby doesn’t seem to have as much of a problem with violent fans –the violence is among the players themselves. Are there rugby “firms” as well? Is its fan base somehow different?

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  233. Growing up in Brazil, going to soccer games with the hooligans was one of the funnest experiences of my life. Americans really miss out on not having hooliganism. We would get as drunk and high as possible. Hijack a municipal bus destroy it singing and punching every thing. Then wed make it to the stadium where the brawls were between team fans anf other fans sometimes police, every one enjoyed themselves. I was actually at one fight where we bombed an opposing teams headquarters/bar with fire works(Brazilian fireworks are essentially bombs, not the pussy shit they have here). It’s a famous event and there are chants about it. Good times,

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  234. BenKenobi says:
    @res
    Actually, Trelane was right: http://www.startrek.com/database_article/kang

    Khan was a genetically modified human from the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh

    Thank you for the corrections, res and Mr Anon.

    I hope it’s obvious that Star Trek isn’t in my wheelhouse.

    Actually, I’m not even a Star Wars fanboy, just a dude named ‘Ben’ who’s got enough genuine class to be compared to Alec Guiness.

    Now how’s that for a Simpsons reference?

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  235. Hibernian says:
    @syonredux

    Fun, unrelated fact:

    If Donald Trump choses Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, or Mike Pence as the VP nominee –

    Trump 2016 will become the first major party presidential ticket in all of American history not to have a person with English ancestry on it.
     
    Trump is half-Scots.In the USA, Scots and Anglo-Saxon is a distinction without a difference.

    The distinction between Aglo-Saxons and Anglo-Celts is a real one. See Hackett’s “Albion’s Seed.”

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  236. @tbraton
    "When Oprah claimed that millions were lynched, she appeared to seriously believe it."

    This happened so long ago I have trouble placing it in an exact time frame, but I was educated (not just schools, but newspapers and other publications as well) to believe that "lynching" was a major problem in the U.S. When I saw the actual numbers (maintained by the Tuskegee Institute) of roughly 7000 lynchings from about 1880 to 1950, I was utterly astounded. (Don't get me wrong. Even one lynching is inexcusable, but 10 a year nationwide is hardly a national scandal.) According to Tuskegee, there have been a couple since 1950 (the last 66 years for those math-challenged), but only if you stretch the definition of "lynching." It is amazing how certain ideas can get embedded in the common thinking without a whole lot of basis in fact. (BTW I am relying on my memory for the numbers above, so they may not be exact, but I'm sure they are pretty close and nowhere remotely close to a million. And Oprah is a pretty smart person.)

    Is that 7,000 number all lynchings total? Including whites lynched by whites, blacks lynched by blacks?

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    Check out my message #211 above with the link to the Tuskegee Institute study. My memory really failed me on the 7000 figure. It was under 5000. I believe that includes all lynchings, white and black, based on the color of the victim. The lynchings really dropped off after 1920 and virtually disappeared after 1950. But the myth lives on, more robust than ever. (When I say "myth," I mean Oprah with her "millions" of lynchings.)
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  237. Brutusale says:
    @Lurker

    but then again it was only some people and it wasn’t like they were physically attacking anyone, unlike truly authentic E̶u̶r̶o̶p̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶ English hooligans
     
    I must spring to the defence of my hooligan compatriots!

    The elite firms of hooligans would largely fight other elite firms or at least fight overt fans from other teams. And the police of course. There was no kudos in attacking 'civilians'.

    Furthermore there are plenty of other European 'ultras' around, it's not just an English issue.

    Russian ultras:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/14/07/352E041800000578-3640021-Ready_for_battle_Russian_ultras_are_not_only_the_most_vicious_sp-a-11_1465886681071.jpg

    Italian ultras (exhibiting some robust political imagery):

    http://st.ilfattoquotidiano.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ultras-fascisti-640.jpg

    Maybe other Euro types here can comment, but expats I know say the Dutch can hooligan with the best of the. True?

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    Feyenoord fans say true.
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  238. 5371 says:
    @Brutusale
    Maybe other Euro types here can comment, but expats I know say the Dutch can hooligan with the best of the. True?

    Feyenoord fans say true.

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  239. Lagertha says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Ok, didn’t mean to be a bummer, but believe me, they know what’s goin’ on.
     
    Please talk them out of suicide if you can. The damage from their act is not just greater than they imagine, it is enormously greater. And its repercussions reverberate across generations. We need them to help, not to die.

    I have successfully influenced 2 young men (are now in college) and one girl (poor self-esteem despite beauty; giving herself over cheaply) who graduated HS a year later, and has moved on. Only one OD’d. All had difficult situations at home, and fell into depression.

    And, when their world view becomes pessimistic, it becomes toxic – some were cutters which is so awful. But, when people notice, yes, I agree, there is sometimes a chance to nudge them out of the abyss. I have always said my home is a “safe house,” in our town. There are a few other moms who practice this form of intervention as well. Of course, these teens also know us well enough that there is that small chance one can re-direct their thoughts.

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  240. Lagertha says:
    @guest
    We need to step away from the word "model" as implying any sort of positive attributes.

    I dunno…..I have friends who financed their graduate degrees with their modeling gigs. One was a Cover Model and made millions with her looks so she could pay for medical school and have no debt. It’s just a job, albeit one that pays a ridiculous amount of money – a job that can’t be out-sourced! ha!

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  241. ATBOTL says:

    Steve, I’m glad you get this. Too many nationalists in America don’t.

    Football hooligans are nascent militias. If a real civil war broke out, football hooligans would make better soldiers than American gun enthusiasts. The social and psychological bonds of an effective combat unit are harder to create from scratch than marksmanship or light infantry tactics.

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  242. tbraton says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome
    Is that 7,000 number all lynchings total? Including whites lynched by whites, blacks lynched by blacks?

    Check out my message #211 above with the link to the Tuskegee Institute study. My memory really failed me on the 7000 figure. It was under 5000. I believe that includes all lynchings, white and black, based on the color of the victim. The lynchings really dropped off after 1920 and virtually disappeared after 1950. But the myth lives on, more robust than ever. (When I say “myth,” I mean Oprah with her “millions” of lynchings.)

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  243. Jefferson says:
    @Twinkie

    A more interesting trendy Asian guy is Eddie Huang, of the Fresh Off the Boat book and TV series, and restaurants, and hip-hop culture. He has interesting insights on racial politics. Of course this has gotten him in trouble.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang#Controversies
     
    He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his "insights" "interesting."

    “He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his “insights” “interesting.”

    Eddie Huang is a rotten banana, which is an Asian who wishes he was Black. It’s the extreme opposite of a twinkie.

    On Fresh Off The Boat all of the posters in Eddie’s room are of Black males, consisting of rappers and NBA players. He would often wear t-shirts which have the image of a Black male celebrity.

    Rotten bananas are extremely common in California.

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    Eddie Huang is a rotten banana, which is an Asian who wishes he was Black. It’s the extreme opposite of a twinkie.
     
    For all that, isn't he a chef? Successful black chefs are not common. I suspect the whole "hip hop" persona is an act. But, then again, I don't care enough about him to read more.
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  244. gruff says:
    @Jefferson
    "You should keep closer track of left wing racial thinking. “Color blindness” is fast on its way out. Blacks reject it entirely. Awareness of one’s race is the watchword of the day."

    Blacks and the Left want their cake and eat it too. They want us Whites to recognize our "White privilege", but they don't want us Whites to develop racial tribalism like other races do.

    We should recognize that we are White when it comes to self hating ourselves, but at the same time we should be color blind and reject White racial tribalism if it means advancing White interests.

    Yes, but that’s precisely where the opportunity lies. The cognitive dissonance of the requirements placed on whites makes them unsustainable. Something’s got to give, is already giving. When confused centrist whites despair, thinking “do I have anything to be proud of?”, we step in with the rich heritage of the West.

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  245. Twinkie says:
    @Jefferson
    "For a number of reasons, they remain the most Christian"

    Filipinos are the most Christian Asians. I have never met a Filipino who practices an East Asian religion. The Philippines is the only Asian country where Christmas is a popular holiday.

    Filipinos are the most Christian Asians. I have never met a Filipino who practices an East Asian religion.

    Try a little reading comprehension. The following is what I wrote earlier:

    For a number of reasons, they [the Koreans] remain the most Christian and the best assimilated East Asians in this country

    Filipinos are not East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Taiwanese), but Southeast Asians.

    On a further note, yes, the Philippines is the most Christianized and Catholic country in Asia. South Korea, however, is the most Protestant in all of Asia, and the most Christianized in *East* Asia.

    Furthermore, while South Korea is 25-30% Christian, in *the United States*, around 80-90% of Koreans are Christians.

    And, unsurprisingly, both the Koreans and the Filipinos in the U.S. display high rates of cultural assimilation unlike the Chinese and the Indians.

    The Philippines is the only Asian country where Christmas is a popular holiday.

    Don’t be silly. Christmas is a highly popular – and government-recognized – holiday in South Korea, unlike in Japan and China where it is not a national holiday.

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  246. Twinkie says:
    @Jason Liu
    Koreans are more likely to be SJWs, acting like they're blacks and all. It's well known in the Asian community.

    This rant about soccer couldn't be less relevant, given that most soccer fans (in Seattle, no less) are skinny liberal white boys who probably love the fact that their "privilege" is coming to an end. What is strange, is why the NYT decided to give him a platform.

    Koreans are more likely to be SJWs, acting like they’re blacks and all. It’s well known in the Asian community.

    Oh, is it “well known in the Asian community”? Who appointed you the spokesperson of the so-called Asian community?*

    Here are some actual facts:

    Per the Pew Study on Asians, Koreans actually have the lowest opinion of interracial relations in the United States, mainly because of their conflicts with blacks. They do not “act like they’re black and all.” If they resemble anybody outside of their race, it is the Irish, not the blacks. Like the Irish, Koreans tend to be overrepresented in religion, acting, music, and fighting sports. Blacks are not the only people who do so.

    Per the long-running Manhattan Institute study on immigrant assimilation, the Koreans in America display high rates of cultural and civic assimilation. Their American-born progeny intermarry whites at the highest rates among Asians and are over-represented in the military (particularly in the Army officer corps). Chinese and Indians, on the other hand, display the lowest rates of cultural assimilation in the United States among the major immigrant groups. The only other major Asian immigrant group that matches or exceeds the Koreans in assimilation are the Filipinos.

    *There is no “the Asian community.” Asians are not blacks. They come from many different countries with widely divergent genetic backgrounds and cultures. Similarly, they have very different political orientations in this country (with the Koreans and the Vietnamese being the most Republican and the Indians being the most Democratic).

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  247. Twinkie says:
    @Jefferson
    "He strikes me as frivolous and juvenile, and, at least from your link, I do not find his “insights” “interesting.”

    Eddie Huang is a rotten banana, which is an Asian who wishes he was Black. It's the extreme opposite of a twinkie.

    On Fresh Off The Boat all of the posters in Eddie's room are of Black males, consisting of rappers and NBA players. He would often wear t-shirts which have the image of a Black male celebrity.

    Rotten bananas are extremely common in California.

    Eddie Huang is a rotten banana, which is an Asian who wishes he was Black. It’s the extreme opposite of a twinkie.

    For all that, isn’t he a chef? Successful black chefs are not common. I suspect the whole “hip hop” persona is an act. But, then again, I don’t care enough about him to read more.

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  248. Twinkie says:
    @Jasper Been
    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.

    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.

    Back before my wife and I had kids, we’d occasionally hit comedy clubs. When Cho was first starting out, she was “sorta” funny. Her routine about her parents, in particular, was very good and universal – who can’t relate to goofy parents?

    Then she went all Jeanine Garofalo and her routines seemed to have degenerated into Bush-bashing and other sundry and tired left-wing ranting.

    For my money, the funniest comedian of Asian descent in the United States is another Cho (unrelated) – Henry Cho:

    He’s a good ol’ Southern boy from Knoxville, Tennessee.

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    Garofalo, Cho and Sarah Silverman are three women comics who were "sorta" funny 20 years ago. They haven't aged well.

    Silverman did a bit on the old Frasier show that was both adorable and funny - but her lines were given to her by expert writers. She should have acted more. She's quite attractive, I think. But she preferred being a political hack/yenta.
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  249. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Twinkie

    Margaret Cho, was was sorta funny 20 years ago and is now basically a lunatic, comes to mind.
     
    Back before my wife and I had kids, we'd occasionally hit comedy clubs. When Cho was first starting out, she was "sorta" funny. Her routine about her parents, in particular, was very good and universal - who can't relate to goofy parents?

    Then she went all Jeanine Garofalo and her routines seemed to have degenerated into Bush-bashing and other sundry and tired left-wing ranting.

    For my money, the funniest comedian of Asian descent in the United States is another Cho (unrelated) - Henry Cho: https://youtu.be/WH8E_nkDNDo

    He's a good ol' Southern boy from Knoxville, Tennessee.

    Garofalo, Cho and Sarah Silverman are three women comics who were “sorta” funny 20 years ago. They haven’t aged well.

    Silverman did a bit on the old Frasier show that was both adorable and funny – but her lines were given to her by expert writers. She should have acted more. She’s quite attractive, I think. But she preferred being a political hack/yenta.

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    Silverman did good voice acting as a character in "Reck-it Ralph."
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  250. @WhatEvvs
    Garofalo, Cho and Sarah Silverman are three women comics who were "sorta" funny 20 years ago. They haven't aged well.

    Silverman did a bit on the old Frasier show that was both adorable and funny - but her lines were given to her by expert writers. She should have acted more. She's quite attractive, I think. But she preferred being a political hack/yenta.

    Silverman did good voice acting as a character in “Reck-it Ralph.”

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  251. tbraton says:
    @Pagoda
    LOL:

    https://talkpoverty.org/2016/07/13/wake-up-call-white-progressives/

    If the guy in the link, who lives in overwhelmingly white, very upscale Chevy Chase, Md., really wants to show solidarity with the Blacks, I think there are still plenty of mostly Black neighborhoods just across the line in Washington, D.C. where he can move with his family. Now that would be making a statement. Probably more of a statement than he wants to make. I guess his wife was right about planting that sign in his yard.

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  252. @WhatEvvs
    I don't agree that Kang is as harmless as you make him out to be. And as for Brooklyn hipsters, annoying as they are, isn't bashing on them getting a little bit old? Maybe it's my age, but I see them as cute kids trying on various personae. I've already seen them get married and have babies. Suddenly the airy-fairy politics becomes less important than Junior's education. But I digress -

    About Kang, I truly think he is a malignant creep, and yes, dangerous. He is interested in a fellow Korean who became a maniacal mass murderer, and wrote in his vicious troll baseball column (published in the NY Times, not some online rag) "As I grew older, and started feeling alienated from my white classmates..." When I first read that sentence, it chilled me to my guts. He wrote it *after* a racial confederate committed a mass murder, arising from racial alienation. Could a white man write the same? The question answers itself.

    BTW, I disagree with him that baseball doesn't "captivate young fans"....what fans? My job puts me in contact with a lot of young Dominican guys who have utility infielder positions in the physical therapy industry. One guy I work with adores Bryce Harper (he loves Harper's strutting machismo) and none of them are particularly racial in their appreciation of baseball players - Dominicans are fanatic baseball fans but they aren't racialized about their appreciation. At least, I haven't noticed this.

    Kang is an Asian racist who has been mentally colonized by whiteness. The NY Times is helping him in his racial jihad.

    (A little late) You may well be right about Kang. And I love hipsters. I usually don’t take their politics very seriously because, as you say, they are often airy-fairy. How the craft beer they are busy making relates to their plans for social justice is fuzzy, and who cares: the beer is good and makes the world a better place. That’s a tricky thing about political opinion: it often doesn’t matter, is just posturing, isn’t thought through, etc. You can almost, almost! lead a happy life without caring at all about this particularly diseased form of thought. And many people do…

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