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From today’s New York Times:
The Highest-Paid Female C.E.O.s
There are very few women on the list of top-paid executives — just 13 out of 200 — and their average pay, $20 million, is 9.4 percent less than $22.6 million overall average.
RANK: 14TH [out of all CEOs, male and female]
Marissa A. Mayer
Yahoo
$42.1 million
My old MBA school teammate Martin
RANK: 24TH
Martine Rothblatt
United Therapeutics
$31.6 million
The poor NYT is so PC-whipped by World War T that it doesn’t dare mention what sounds like it ought to be a good feminist talking point: Women are so oppressed in Corporate America that the #2 “female” CEO was — back when I was on a team with him in Marketing Strategy class at UCLA’s Graduate School of Management in 1981 — a Pale Penis Person. (And, “she” may well still be one, for all I know.)
Martin contended with an Israeli fighter pilot for the title of Most Arrogant Man at GSM. Obviously, Martin’s utter lack of feminine traits, his lifelong obsession with rocketships, and the sizable number of children he had fathered with two women were just parts of an elaborate facade he had constructed to hide from judgmental society the fact that he had always felt like a little girl on the inside.
But the important lesson here is that people who pay themselves over $30 million per year get to call themselves by whatever pronoun they feel like and you had better, if you know what’s good for you, just put a respectful look on your face and reply, “Yes, Sir” (or “Yes, Ma’am,” depending on the mood they are in).
How about that. I’ve finally got “pale penis person” into circulation. Years of effort finally paying off!
Ex: "Cheryl, as a Pale member of the People of Penis community, I am shocked (and saddened!) that you would say that."
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950078
“Measuring the value Marissa Mayer’s destroying at Yahoo!”
http://pando.com/2014/04/18/measuring-the-value-marissa-mayers-destroying-at-yahoo/
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I'd be quite surprised.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950084
I looked at Martine Rothblatt’s photo and thought ‘She looks like a less-high maintenance me’
and then it ends up being a man…
Damn.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950088
Social Justice has been very, very good to Marissa Mayer.
On the other hand, she probably has a lot less descendants than she would have in a saner society, where maybe she wouldn't have become a CEO, but women would be encouraged to be fertile. And given how all-round good genes she seems to possess, it appears that her reduced fertility is a loss to society. I tend to think extra descendants give people extra happiness in old age, so her life will probably be filled with less happiness than in that alternate reality.
So in all likelihood Social Justice gave her a Faustian bargain.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950100
Wow, that is total commitment to the trans cause. Give up your penis AND take a cut in pay. I would be willing to bet that none of these transgendered males gave up a trophy size wang.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950104
http://pando.com/2014/04/18/measuring-the-value-marissa-mayers-destroying-at-yahoo/
I think Yahoo is circling the drain anyway–it’s lost its reason to exist now that Google is around.
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I’d be quite surprised.
But...like you said no evidence Mayer can turn the ship around.
But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven't been success stories at all. Maybe it's just because most male CEOs are inept, too, and the female sample size isn't yet large enough for the few visionary ones to appear in it.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950108
Martin contended with an Israeli fighter pilot for the title of Most Arrogant Man at GSM. Obviously, Martin’s utter lack of feminine traits and his lifelong obsession with rocket ships was just an elaborate facade he had constructed to hide from judgmental society the fact that he had always felt like a little girl on the inside.
Oh no Steve. Don’t you see? Martine’s obsession with rocket ships and lack of interest in dollhouses just disproves the notion boys and girls are inherently different! Martine is in fact a boon for the feminists, once they figure out the spin. The ladies just need some guy to show them how to use the Narrate-O-Matic. In goes reality, out comes pc gruel.
Now we just need to cure society’s trans-phobia, so more Martines can escape their ill-assigned birth genders and women can claim their rightful share of power!
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950109
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I'd be quite surprised.
The Google search engine came out almost 20 years ago.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950110
One of the highest paid “Female” CEOs in America was born with a penis and the most powerful self identified “Amerindian” senator in Washington D.C has blonde hair and blue eyes.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950114
How about “Pale Person of Penis” or “Person of Pale Penis” to riff on the “Person of Color” silliness?
Ex: “Cheryl, as a Pale member of the People of Penis community, I am shocked (and saddened!) that you would say that.”
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950123
Martine and her wife, who appears to be a black lesbian, speak at Fortune’s “Most Powerful Women” summit:
If Martine did not cut off "her" penis, than how does that make "her" wife a Lesbian? Bisexual would be a better term to describe her. A true Lesbian would never marry someone who has a penis.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950124
Does Martine Rothblatt’s offspring refer to “her” as mom or dad? Also will Bruce Jenner insist that his offspring start referring to “her” as mom?
This is all very weird to a racist cisgendered Heterosexual White guy like myself.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950126
Martine is building an AI clone of her wife:
And here is Martine’s presentation titled “The Goal of Technology is the End of Death”:
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950129
Off-topic,
Razib Khan on Ivy League discrimination against East Asians:
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/asian-americans-lack-good-character/#new_comments
Racially pure Asian men on average do struggle to attract White women. But the Mixed Race types who are predominantly White like Keanu Reeves and Dean Cain do sexually appeal to a lot of White women. Keanu Reeves always has a White female love interest in his films whether it's Winona Ryder, Cameron Diaz, Bridget Moynahan, or Sandra Bullock for example.
I remember when the 25 percent Japanese Dean Cain went on the Fox show "Outnumbered", one of the blondes on the couch Kirsten Powers complimented him on his looks.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/03/article-2532735-1A66C69C00000578-112_306x300.jpg
and what percentage look like David Frum?
I'm guessing the people most discriminated against going to Harvard are exactly those rural sporty types from flyover country that would be selected if the stated criteria was true.
In reality discrimination against Asians getting into Harvard will be the same reason it always has been - parents whose kids currently have an advantage trying to preserve that advantage for their kids.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950130
Steve:
That’s an interesting question. Transwomen come in two varieties: extremely effeminate gay men and heterosexual guys with autogynephilia (cf Rothblatt and Bruce Jenner).Is there any difference between the two in terms of castration-penis removal-artificial vagina carving rates?Based on the little that I know, I’m inclined to think that the autogynephiles are more inclined towards keeping their male equipment intact, whereas the really effeminate gays are more likely to go under the knife.Cf, for example, Andreja Pejic, a super-duper effeminate gay male model who went the surgical route and is now a post-op trans:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2759583/I-catheter-look-Model-Andreja-Pejic-jokes-returning-runway-following-gender-reassignment-surgery-new-documentary.html
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950136
Razib Khan on Ivy League discrimination against East Asians:http://www.unz.com/gnxp/asian-americans-lack-good-character/#new_comments
I think something along these lines is a more plausible explanation for Asian quotas than the kinds of explanations offered by Education Realist and others. There’s a social dominance factor that’s important in determining social variables like elite representation.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950140
Of course while women are struggling to get to the top in the left-brained, dopamine-fueled world of big business, there isn’t much mention of the fact they are walking all over men in the softer, more right-brained professions such as PR, publishing, teaching, social work and non-technical academia. I read an Australian newspaper article claiming that 95 percent of PR jobs are going to women so companies can fill their AA quotas.
Where are the feminists calling for affirmative action for less-masculine brained males who can’t find a job in female dominated professions?
The passivity of liberal beta males is the cornerstone of masculine feminism.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950147
Well, she gets a lot of money which will be gone in a couple of generations anyway. (Unless the next generation makes a lot of money, too. Not unlikely, but then again, in that case her descendants won’t need her money anyway.) And she doesn’t really need the money right now. She could have a reasonably comfortable life even if she and her family had to live off the income of her husband alone.
On the other hand, she probably has a lot less descendants than she would have in a saner society, where maybe she wouldn’t have become a CEO, but women would be encouraged to be fertile. And given how all-round good genes she seems to possess, it appears that her reduced fertility is a loss to society. I tend to think extra descendants give people extra happiness in old age, so her life will probably be filled with less happiness than in that alternate reality.
So in all likelihood Social Justice gave her a Faustian bargain.
This sort of "lean in" careerist feminism has offered women nothing but a Faustian bargain. Sacrificing what is important and makes women (and people) happy, for ... careerist pablum.
Women like men, have some sort of desire for status, but programed to seek it through capture of high value man as mate. Feminist careerism is "looking for status in all the wrong places".
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950153
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I'd be quite surprised.
They have at least a couple valuable properties, Yahoo Mail & Flickr.
But…like you said no evidence Mayer can turn the ship around.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950160
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I'd be quite surprised.
Yeah, probably most other CEOs would have destroyed a lot of value there, too.
But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven’t been success stories at all. Maybe it’s just because most male CEOs are inept, too, and the female sample size isn’t yet large enough for the few visionary ones to appear in it.
Williams-Sonoma (an upscale kitchen accessory store) sounds like a good fit.
How many self-made women are there on the Forbes 400? Oprah, the Spanx lady, ...
Here's a 2012 Forbes article that says 11 of the Forbes 400 are first-generation women. Many of these are part of a couple who started a business together, like the Panda Express couple:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2012/09/21/how-the-self-made-women-on-the-forbes-400-earned-their-fortunes/
There really aren't that many female big names in the American business world. It's kind of odd, actually. It probably takes up a lot of time being both an executive and a high profile media figure like Sheryl Strandberg. Lots of grooming and media spinning to do.
In contrast, this Judith Faulkner of Epic health care data systems is very low profile. She founded her business over 35 years ago but I'm only now hearing of her. It's a lot of working making a billion dollars; getting nitpicked by other women about your hairstyle after your Today show appearance probably is something that Ms. Faulkner doesn't find a good use of her time.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950165
But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven't been success stories at all. Maybe it's just because most male CEOs are inept, too, and the female sample size isn't yet large enough for the few visionary ones to appear in it.
Fiorina was a disaster at HP. She destroyed the company. Everybody at HP, not just the employees, but even the board, hated her. The stock fell by more than 50% during her tenure.
On the other hand, it's interesting that the oppressed CEOs (the ones who happen to be women and the one who happens to be Jewish) appear worse in this chart than the only Gentile Penised Person of Pallor.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950171
Not saying Mayer is a good executive or anything. I'd be quite surprised.
Mayer’s primary area of expertise is user interface design. Her arrival saw many changes in Yahoo’s design. And, it sucks. Yahoo Weather is the prime example. A perfectly conventional and informative page that was lightning fast was transformed into a cute graphics-filled page that has a lot of things but not much of a weather forecast.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950173
Razib Khan on Ivy League discrimination against East Asians:http://www.unz.com/gnxp/asian-americans-lack-good-character/#new_comments
“White females perceive them to be sexually impotent (on average), and for better or worse the opinions of white females as to who is a plausible leader in our society is very telling. If American women won’t want have to have sex with them, then why would the broader society see them as creditable leaders?”
Racially pure Asian men on average do struggle to attract White women. But the Mixed Race types who are predominantly White like Keanu Reeves and Dean Cain do sexually appeal to a lot of White women. Keanu Reeves always has a White female love interest in his films whether it’s Winona Ryder, Cameron Diaz, Bridget Moynahan, or Sandra Bullock for example.
I remember when the 25 percent Japanese Dean Cain went on the Fox show “Outnumbered”, one of the blondes on the couch Kirsten Powers complimented him on his looks.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950178
I am starting to think that Steve might be wrong about WWT: I am beginning to think it will turn into CWWTW: A civil war between women and trans-women.
Of course the main advantage of women is that men want to make love to them: that, and the fact that they women can have babies. In every other respect, however, trans-women will probably be superior.
It is not in the interests of women as a gender to have men, who don’t want to have sex with them, being women and beating them in the open market.
I want to know how the Olympics are going to handle WWT in 2016 ……. at least that will take the heat off the armed forces for awhile …..
I don't for one second believe straight men will ever prefer trannies over us, actual, XX, women.
A tranny's problem is, the people he-she wants to have sex with (straight or gay men or women both straight and lesbian) are squicked out. He-she does NOT have what THEY want.
My ex-Navy husband still laughs about about his youth in Singapore and the hookers there. He and his buddies were looking them over, seemed ok, financial negotiations were in progress...until the he-she was discovered and they all ran screaming.
Our reigning paradigm of silliness in all things\blank slate, tries to pretend sex is "fluid" or some such nonsense. But if the Olympics truly rolled over and fully bought into this nonsense ... then female sports would simply be over--a freak show no one cared about. They'll find a way to not have that happen, even if offends the reigning paradigm of minoritarianism. The obvious counter tactic is it's a women's right's issue.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950189
By becoming transgender (at least if there’s carving involved), you make yourself sexually repulsive to 99 per cent of the population. It’s quite a step to take.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4KHuQYm_z4
i’m semi-convinced transgenderism is caused by girl-girl porn
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950212
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2759583/I-catheter-look-Model-Andreja-Pejic-jokes-returning-runway-following-gender-reassignment-surgery-new-documentary.html
that makes sense actually. i’ve known (not literally) quite a few gay men who seemed to only want straight men.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950218
Incidentally, “Rothblatt” means “red blossom” in German….
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950227
If Rothblatt and other Baby Boomer transhumanists thought seriously about “living forever” in light of regression towards the mean, they might realize that future generations could restore something like premodern, traditional social standards. People born a few centuries from now wouldn’t necessarily welcome or tolerate current transhumanists’ beliefs and practices like feminism, promiscuity, homosexuality, having sexual relationships with people far outside of your tribe or trying to become the other sex. (The last two transgressions raise the question of whether Rothblatt felt self-loathing for banging and making babies with two different black women. Did he decide to “change sex” to punish himself?)
I’ve skimmed through parts of Rothblatt’s latest book and I found it pretty unreadable. He references Robert Heinlein’s writings in several places, which shows his fundamental lack of seriousness. Heinlein’s literary reputation has already gone into sharp decline, and I doubt anyone will bother to read his novels in another century. It indicates a lack of judgment to build a world view on intellectual novelties without a baseline of experience that comes from testing them in the real world to see if they work.
The interesting thing about this premise is that I want some kind of argument that explains to me how one can have "consciousness" or a sense of "I" in the absence of a physical body. I mean, as I am typing this note I am very self-conscious (right now) of my physical being and aware of myself primarily as a physical entity in many, many ways: fingers typing, sounds of dog and baseball game, coffee to my right, the weight and pull of my sweater on my bare arms, etc. What kind of "sense of self" am I going to have when I am split among a few servers in a warehouse somewhere? Will that be like being at ADX, Florence?
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950229
Razib Khan on Ivy League discrimination against East Asians:http://www.unz.com/gnxp/asian-americans-lack-good-character/#new_comments
The thing about that (nonsense imo) is line up the people who did get into Harvard and what percentage of them look like Tom Hughes
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/03/article-2532735-1A66C69C00000578-112_306x300.jpg
and what percentage look like David Frum?
I’m guessing the people most discriminated against going to Harvard are exactly those rural sporty types from flyover country that would be selected if the stated criteria was true.
In reality discrimination against Asians getting into Harvard will be the same reason it always has been – parents whose kids currently have an advantage trying to preserve that advantage for their kids.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4KHuQYm_z4
“Martine and her wife, who appears to be a black lesbian, speak at Fortune’s “Most Powerful Women” summit:”
If Martine did not cut off “her” penis, than how does that make “her” wife a Lesbian? Bisexual would be a better term to describe her. A true Lesbian would never marry someone who has a penis.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950241
“Anonymous says:
Fiorina was a disaster at HP. She destroyed the company. Everybody at HP, not just the employees, but even the board, hated her. The stock fell by more than 50% during her tenure.”
Just wait till she does for America what she did for HP.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950247
“He references Robert Heinlein’s writings”
What percentage of elite M to F transsexuals have read at least two Heinlein books? 75%?
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950249
Of course the main advantage of women is that men want to make love to them: that, and the fact that they women can have babies. In every other respect, however, trans-women will probably be superior.
It is not in the interests of women as a gender to have men, who don't want to have sex with them, being women and beating them in the open market.
I want to know how the Olympics are going to handle WWT in 2016 ....... at least that will take the heat off the armed forces for awhile .....
You have a good point there but you’re going to need a catchier acronym.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950256
Among elite M to F autogynephiles, I would say that the percentage could easily hit 90% Who would have guessed that Elizabeth Andrew Jackson Libby (born Andrew Jackson “Slipstick” Libby) would prove to be one of the heroes of our times…..
Elite hetero trannies are just the extreme, nerdy/eccentric end of the elite libertarian spectrum.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950257
Thank you for forcing me to introduce myself to “Whole Brain Emulation”, as well as a new acronym, “WBE”. No question, “Mind Uploading” is upworthy and deserves upvotes.
The interesting thing about this premise is that I want some kind of argument that explains to me how one can have “consciousness” or a sense of “I” in the absence of a physical body. I mean, as I am typing this note I am very self-conscious (right now) of my physical being and aware of myself primarily as a physical entity in many, many ways: fingers typing, sounds of dog and baseball game, coffee to my right, the weight and pull of my sweater on my bare arms, etc. What kind of “sense of self” am I going to have when I am split among a few servers in a warehouse somewhere? Will that be like being at ADX, Florence?
Even, the "brain in a box" question is predicated on the assumption that your brain is intact and sensory input/output channels are replaced with something indistinguishable from the real world.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950259
How do you know that she didn’t have or doesn’t have a huge penis?
Thing about "Transwoman" as the concept is evolving is that
mentranswomen are not in fact obliged to undergo the radical circumcision that seems implied. On the contrary, it is apparently no one's business (not to say that I mind the absence of "oversharing" and "TMI" in this domain) and furthermore, I would suppose that forcing a man who realized he was a woman to having various surgeries would be classifiable as a form of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) and if not, I'd like to know why not.Of course that opens the door for various men (Persons of Penis or POP is probably preferable) to pronounce their womanhood, and even to do with a lack of sincerity. We'll see how it goes.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950264
Almost–Rothblatt is an older spelling of Rot + Blatt, red + leaf, Blatt also meaning sheet, as in sheet of paper.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950267
we walk funny
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950280
Right. I believe the proper homologue would be “clitoris.”
Thing about “Transwoman” as the concept is evolving is that
mentranswomen are not in fact obliged to undergo the radical circumcision that seems implied. On the contrary, it is apparently no one’s business (not to say that I mind the absence of “oversharing” and “TMI” in this domain) and furthermore, I would suppose that forcing a man who realized he was a woman to having various surgeries would be classifiable as a form of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) and if not, I’d like to know why not.Of course that opens the door for various men (Persons of Penis or POP is probably preferable) to pronounce their womanhood, and even to do with a lack of sincerity. We’ll see how it goes.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950287
Has anybody else noticed the Heinleinian aspect to WWT?
HillaryElizabethAndrew JacksonHarriett Tubman Libby that I realized just how gay Sci Fi was.http://io9.com/predestination-could-be-the-greatest-time-travel-mindf-1678518884
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950289
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/03/article-2532735-1A66C69C00000578-112_306x300.jpg
and what percentage look like David Frum?
I'm guessing the people most discriminated against going to Harvard are exactly those rural sporty types from flyover country that would be selected if the stated criteria was true.
In reality discrimination against Asians getting into Harvard will be the same reason it always has been - parents whose kids currently have an advantage trying to preserve that advantage for their kids.
Not sure that’s the best example. Hughes looks very effeminate.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950290
Well, it wasn’t until I saw this 1951 cover for “Universe” (a volume in the series featuring
HillaryElizabethAndrew JacksonHarriett Tubman Libby that I realized just how gay Sci Fi was.http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950294
But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven't been success stories at all. Maybe it's just because most male CEOs are inept, too, and the female sample size isn't yet large enough for the few visionary ones to appear in it.
The firms on the list of highest paid women CEOs tend to be highly dependent upon politics — Lockheed, GM, Archer-Daniels-Midland, etc..
Williams-Sonoma (an upscale kitchen accessory store) sounds like a good fit.
How many self-made women are there on the Forbes 400? Oprah, the Spanx lady, …
Here’s a 2012 Forbes article that says 11 of the Forbes 400 are first-generation women. Many of these are part of a couple who started a business together, like the Panda Express couple:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2012/09/21/how-the-self-made-women-on-the-forbes-400-earned-their-fortunes/
Well obviously Martine Rothblatt is a self-made woman.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950298
Don’t forget our first “black” POTUS whose mother was white.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950308
“Here’s a 2012 Forbes article that says 11 of the Forbes 400 are first-generation women. Many of these are part of a couple who started a business together, like the Panda Express couple:”
Panda Express is the Chinese American version of The Olive Garden. Foreign cuisine with an American twist.
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The interesting thing about this premise is that I want some kind of argument that explains to me how one can have "consciousness" or a sense of "I" in the absence of a physical body. I mean, as I am typing this note I am very self-conscious (right now) of my physical being and aware of myself primarily as a physical entity in many, many ways: fingers typing, sounds of dog and baseball game, coffee to my right, the weight and pull of my sweater on my bare arms, etc. What kind of "sense of self" am I going to have when I am split among a few servers in a warehouse somewhere? Will that be like being at ADX, Florence?
I’ve often thought the big hurdle to uploading the conscience would be reproducing the physical environment in such a way that what gets uploaded still “feels” like you.
Even, the “brain in a box” question is predicated on the assumption that your brain is intact and sensory input/output channels are replaced with something indistinguishable from the real world.
Right, and what happens if you want to just get up and go for a walk around the block? I suppose you could, but you know it would be phony. Starting to sound like a bad Twilight Zone episode or a PK Dick novel ......
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Ex: "Cheryl, as a Pale member of the People of Penis community, I am shocked (and saddened!) that you would say that."
I don’t think any suggestion has yet captured the feel and cadences of progressive academese.
To wit, I suggest ‘penised person of pallor’.
The ‘penised’ resonates with ‘spaces’ or ‘discourses’ being ‘gendered’. It also suggests that to have a male organ is an unfortunate imposition for which the bearer accepts no responsibility.
The ‘person of pallor’ part echoes ‘person of color’, and since pallor suggests a deficiency, its use scores important victimhood points.
May your first child be a masculine child.
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Even, the "brain in a box" question is predicated on the assumption that your brain is intact and sensory input/output channels are replaced with something indistinguishable from the real world.
Even, the “brain in a box” question is predicated on the assumption that your brain is intact and sensory input/output channels are replaced with something indistinguishable from the real world.
Right, and what happens if you want to just get up and go for a walk around the block? I suppose you could, but you know it would be phony. Starting to sound like a bad Twilight Zone episode or a PK Dick novel ……
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IIRC white is a composite of all colors so “Person of Many Colors” would be kinda funny if you wanted to annoy some SJWs.
Person who reflects the entire spectrum of light.
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This Huffington Post article says there are way too many cisgender Heterosexual White guys in Hollywood and that is a problem in their eyes. In the article there is a picture of a Black World War T named Laverne Cox. Hollywood needs more Black World War T directors, writers, producers, and “actresses”.
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Yeah probably a bad choice but I still think it would be interesting to test the idea of Asians being kept out of Harvard through lack of machismo by comparing them with the machismo of the ones who do get in.
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I think the commenter who said the future is a civil war between women and transwomen is on to something. If they ever figure out how to create implantable wombs its going to be a brave new world for actual women out there.
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Implantable womb? I suggest that these middle aged eunuch narcissists would never go for it.
Maybe for the young trannies that already look female in clothes.
The younger/high effort types who pass want straight men, and oddly enough seem to embrace 50s style notions of what a woman's role is.
If straight, successful males start getting poached, itll get nasty.
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I think it’d be about relative machismo, rather than absolute machismo. Harvard students in general probably aren’t that high in machismo relative to the general population. But having higher machismo relative to other students with similar academics probably helps.
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The replacement for Andrew Jackson has been found
Carly Fiorina.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950395
“Rothblatt” = Red Leaf
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950396
My first love :
Saving the white girls on SVU
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I second The Last Real Calvinist: “penised person of pallor” is stand-up gold.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paatkjvWRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGvI3dXldPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqCyseLSlQ
My first love :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO5ht0V2iGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tROimHbuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RXVIMjNJCg
Saving the white girls on SVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvKanvg7u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP0OaUOQGCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_V0pnhHf4
https://youtu.be/zSeh-oSC_1U?t=7m46s
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Put that smile back on my face baby :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUokOM8nHII
Sailerrrr suave :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekw7M0CvHlc
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950453
This girl covers a lot of songs and she does it well :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWkLmKRuVs
Why doesn’t that joy flow out of my monitor on your site Sailer ? Do you sing ? Give it a try .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCX1uzWt_hk
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Williams-Sonoma (an upscale kitchen accessory store) sounds like a good fit.
How many self-made women are there on the Forbes 400? Oprah, the Spanx lady, ...
Here's a 2012 Forbes article that says 11 of the Forbes 400 are first-generation women. Many of these are part of a couple who started a business together, like the Panda Express couple:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2012/09/21/how-the-self-made-women-on-the-forbes-400-earned-their-fortunes/
How many self-made women are there on the Forbes 400?
Well obviously Martine Rothblatt is a self-made woman.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2MIGuA8p4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuemZFCmPNI
I still love your way Sailer :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWIxA7M_-ZA
Are you in that crowd Sailer ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950484
Somebody wrote a song about self made women :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBGxYfQ7Gy0
I myself got the clap as a bonus .
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But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven't been success stories at all. Maybe it's just because most male CEOs are inept, too, and the female sample size isn't yet large enough for the few visionary ones to appear in it.
“But my impression is that the few high profile female CEOs like Mayer or Fiorina haven’t been success stories at all.”
There really aren’t that many female big names in the American business world. It’s kind of odd, actually. It probably takes up a lot of time being both an executive and a high profile media figure like Sheryl Strandberg. Lots of grooming and media spinning to do.
In contrast, this Judith Faulkner of Epic health care data systems is very low profile. She founded her business over 35 years ago but I’m only now hearing of her. It’s a lot of working making a billion dollars; getting nitpicked by other women about your hairstyle after your Today show appearance probably is something that Ms. Faulkner doesn’t find a good use of her time.
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There really aren't that many female big names in the American business world. It's kind of odd, actually. It probably takes up a lot of time being both an executive and a high profile media figure like Sheryl Strandberg. Lots of grooming and media spinning to do.
In contrast, this Judith Faulkner of Epic health care data systems is very low profile. She founded her business over 35 years ago but I'm only now hearing of her. It's a lot of working making a billion dollars; getting nitpicked by other women about your hairstyle after your Today show appearance probably is something that Ms. Faulkner doesn't find a good use of her time.
Hewlett-Packard has just had two female CEOs (out of four CEOs) over the past sixteen years, and it appears that only one of those CEOs was successful at all (if share price is any guide here).
Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
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According to this chart HP has had three unsuccessful and only one successful CEOs over the past sixteen years. Actually, Fiorina’s share price performance is not comparable to the others, because she came at the height of the tech bubble and so had an artificially inflated share price in 1999, which would have been crushed under the watch of any other CEO. To me both Whitman and Apotheker seem to be worse or at least no better than Fiorina.
On the other hand, it’s interesting that the oppressed CEOs (the ones who happen to be women and the one who happens to be Jewish) appear worse in this chart than the only Gentile Penised Person of Pallor.
Her tenure is widely regarded as having been a huge disaster. She increased debt massively and fired lots of people all in order to acquire another low margin PC maker, Compaq, creating a large, debt saturated, low margin PC maker. After she left, HP decided to get out of the PC business.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-950559
On the other hand, it's interesting that the oppressed CEOs (the ones who happen to be women and the one who happens to be Jewish) appear worse in this chart than the only Gentile Penised Person of Pallor.
Also interesting that the oppressor CEO had to resign for practicing oppression. (I can’t recall exactly the reason, maybe he asked out a female colleague for a dinner at the expense of the company. If that isn’t oppression, what is?)
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How to be an HP CEO: just keep charging a fortune for print cartridges.
Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
They also make the most reliable laser printers. Go to an office and you may see some HPs that get regular use from the late 90s still chugging away. They have counters and their midrange $300 and $400 printers sometimes make it past 500,000.
Generally they make them in Japan rather than China.
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This is perfect, and I’m going to run with it. Thank you for giving me the vocabulary to express my social identity.
May your first child be a masculine child.
If you'd like an alternative moniker, might I also submit 'phallused person of pallor'.
This option has the advantage of featuring 'the phallus', which as all of us who've been through humanities grad school know is socially-constructed, and hence both more damnable and more potentially malleable (i.e. it can be awakened from its false consciousness and transformed via enlightenment and revolution) than a boring fleshly appendage (which must be physically and messily removed).
The downside here is you lose the jaunty triple alliteration of 'penised person of pallor.
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Well obviously Martine Rothblatt is a self-made woman.
Comment of the week right there!
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I thought “blatt” meant “leaf” in German, so Rothblatt would be “red leaf”.
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Not that I’ve noticed.You would think that someone would, though.The Trans crowd certainly seemed to be enthusiastic about the recent adaptation of Heinlein’s “All you Zombies” (Predestination). Why, just look at the review that transwoman Charlie Jane Anders posted at Io9:
http://io9.com/predestination-could-be-the-greatest-time-travel-mindf-1678518884
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Glance at Men seeking Men postings.”Str8t” acting/looking is highly desirable.
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“IIRC white is a composite of all colors so “Person of Many Colors” would be kinda funny if you wanted to annoy some SJWs.”
Person who reflects the entire spectrum of light.
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Of course the main advantage of women is that men want to make love to them: that, and the fact that they women can have babies. In every other respect, however, trans-women will probably be superior.
It is not in the interests of women as a gender to have men, who don't want to have sex with them, being women and beating them in the open market.
I want to know how the Olympics are going to handle WWT in 2016 ....... at least that will take the heat off the armed forces for awhile .....
“is not in the interests of women as a gender to have men, who don’t want to have sex with them, being women and beating them in the open market.”
I don’t for one second believe straight men will ever prefer trannies over us, actual, XX, women.
A tranny’s problem is, the people he-she wants to have sex with (straight or gay men or women both straight and lesbian) are squicked out. He-she does NOT have what THEY want.
My ex-Navy husband still laughs about about his youth in Singapore and the hookers there. He and his buddies were looking them over, seemed ok, financial negotiations were in progress…until the he-she was discovered and they all ran screaming.
I don't think most straight men would want to have sex with a transwoman (it is conceivable, after all). And it's a sure thing that transwomen could not have a man's baby. But in most other competitive environments -- which is why I mentioned the Olympics -- yeah, the transwomen would probably beat out the regular women.
Having said that, I think for a lot of couples -- probably most -- traditional gender roles make a lot of sense. Trust me, no one is going to care how important your career was, or how much money you have, when you retire.
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Bunch of biology grad students I knew about thirty years ago in Austin used to kid about ‘pale, patriarchal, penis persons.’
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My undergraduate advisor used the phrase pale penis circa 2001 to describe anti white male admissions policies.
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Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
Printers are free. Ink cartridges are $30. Rinse, repeat.
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Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
You’re absolutely right. I hadn’t really thought about this before, but now that I think about it, every time I have to go out and get new ink cartridges, the only ones they have are HP and I always have to fork over close to $100 for a couple of them. HP seems to have a monopoly on ink cartridges and they really rip people off with them.
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On the other hand, it's interesting that the oppressed CEOs (the ones who happen to be women and the one who happens to be Jewish) appear worse in this chart than the only Gentile Penised Person of Pallor.
Fiorina was hated by both rank and file employees and other executives and board members. She saddled the company with lots of extra debt for mergers which didn’t increase net income. She was also known for being extravagant with company funds and private jet travel while firing lots of workers and pushing heavily for H1-Bs.
Her tenure is widely regarded as having been a huge disaster. She increased debt massively and fired lots of people all in order to acquire another low margin PC maker, Compaq, creating a large, debt saturated, low margin PC maker. After she left, HP decided to get out of the PC business.
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Just to crosslink some iSteve posts, Marissa Mayer is one of those high performing midwestern Germanics.
Of course in a sane society she’d be doing what high quality females should be doing–raising a passel of kids (she has only one)–rather than trying to turn around Yahoo, which any number of men could do just as poorly as she is doing.
Women are simply not biologically programmed to try and climb the greasy pole to the apex. And for the obvious reason–there’s no Genghis Khan style reproductive payoff waiting for them. Even if they succeed they’ll still have … 0-10 kids. In fact, it’s a reproductive black hole for them as it wastes time\resources that should be devoted to caring for their children. Rather women are programed to compete for the status, by competing for successful men–and capturing their status and resources–along with their high quality genes–for their children.
Marissa is smart, attractive, accomplished and of good stock. Society would be better if she was busy raising say eight kids.
But, of course this is no longer a sane society. So we have major institutions telling us to do insane stuff like flood our nations with Africans and have smart women spend their time battling up the corporate hierarchy.
Of course of the two–we could recover down the road from the latter silliness, the former is simply the end of our civilization.
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Not to split hairs, but a she can’t have a huge penis, only men have a penis.
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Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
All printer companies do this, but HP is probably the least guilty. Non OEM refills from Amazon seem to work better with HP than other companies.
They also make the most reliable laser printers. Go to an office and you may see some HPs that get regular use from the late 90s still chugging away. They have counters and their midrange $300 and $400 printers sometimes make it past 500,000.
Generally they make them in Japan rather than China.
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Of course in a sane society she'd be doing what high quality females should be doing--raising a passel of kids (she has only one)--rather than trying to turn around Yahoo, which any number of men could do just as poorly as she is doing.
Women are simply not biologically programmed to try and climb the greasy pole to the apex. And for the obvious reason--there's no Genghis Khan style reproductive payoff waiting for them. Even if they succeed they'll still have ... 0-10 kids. In fact, it's a reproductive black hole for them as it wastes time\resources that should be devoted to caring for their children. Rather women are programed to compete for the status, by competing for successful men--and capturing their status and resources--along with their high quality genes--for their children.
Marissa is smart, attractive, accomplished and of good stock. Society would be better if she was busy raising say eight kids.
But, of course this is no longer a sane society. So we have major institutions telling us to do insane stuff like flood our nations with Africans and have smart women spend their time battling up the corporate hierarchy.
Of course of the two--we could recover down the road from the latter silliness, the former is simply the end of our civilization.
Yahoo is a funny company. They randomly made a small early investment in AliBaba, which is now worth more than the rest of the company combined.
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As another commenter pointed out, the older trannies appear to be autogynophiles/low effort who think earrings and an ugly haircut make the woman.
The younger/high effort types who pass want straight men, and oddly enough seem to embrace 50s style notions of what a woman’s role is.
If straight, successful males start getting poached, itll get nasty.
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Elites in general are becoming more libertarian. Successful homosexuals seem to be mostly libertarian or mainstream right liberal, elite heterosexuals are more into liberal sexual practices like swinging and BDSM that the majority of the population. If it wasn’t for the threat of being called sexist they would be also be having lots more Italian-style bunga bunga parties. At the same time, they still have a strong class-based commitment to free market economic practices such as free trade, economic immigration, and financial deregulation.
Elite hetero trannies are just the extreme, nerdy/eccentric end of the elite libertarian spectrum.
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What about Martine Rothblatt and Bruce Jenner? They both have huge penises.
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It’s because we allowed an ink cartridge gap.
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Never showered with either of them, but they are not women, they are transsexual males. I still believe that transsexual men are gays who want to validate their desire for straight men by appearing to be female. A male with a big tool would be desirable to both straight women and gays, whether he is straight or not. I have a hard time believing that a transsexual male would be attractive to a straight male, but that’s my opinion. I have a daughter who is a mental health professional. When I bounce these ideas off of her she sighs and says, “Are you reading Steve Sailer again?”
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I don't for one second believe straight men will ever prefer trannies over us, actual, XX, women.
A tranny's problem is, the people he-she wants to have sex with (straight or gay men or women both straight and lesbian) are squicked out. He-she does NOT have what THEY want.
My ex-Navy husband still laughs about about his youth in Singapore and the hookers there. He and his buddies were looking them over, seemed ok, financial negotiations were in progress...until the he-she was discovered and they all ran screaming.
I had the same experience in Singapore, actually. Except that I wasn’t freaked out, I just had trouble believing a woman that beautiful was actually a guy. But he/she was honest, so, I bought her a beer.
I don’t think most straight men would want to have sex with a transwoman (it is conceivable, after all). And it’s a sure thing that transwomen could not have a man’s baby. But in most other competitive environments — which is why I mentioned the Olympics — yeah, the transwomen would probably beat out the regular women.
Having said that, I think for a lot of couples — probably most — traditional gender roles make a lot of sense. Trust me, no one is going to care how important your career was, or how much money you have, when you retire.
I see no reason for concern. The only things in the Olympics that girls and women really are enthusiastic enough about to watch and to practice enough to win, are the things that allow us to show off our nice figures. Gymnastics, ice dancing, beach volleyball. There won't be any trannies there.
How could there be? To be an Olympic gymnast requires starting at age 3 and continuing to practice uncountable hours until age 12-13-14. Even if there are any boys who want to be girls (or whose crazy lesbian mamas THINK he does and transition him against his will) and actually go through the hormones / maybe surgery at age 6 and who go on to learn gymnastics, they still won't have the lithe femininity it takes to look good enough to win.
Would trannies win, say, the women's weightlifting? Yeah, because men have more upper body strength. But who would watch? What's the point?
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Whatever happens
We have got
Print cartridges
And they have not
Now that’s connection i had–probably no one had–made before: the Maxim gun and HP printer cartridges. You’ve got an active mind Steve.
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They’re autogynephiliacs, so they have to. You need a huge penis to be able to screw yourself.
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Of course the main advantage of women is that men want to make love to them: that, and the fact that they women can have babies. In every other respect, however, trans-women will probably be superior.
It is not in the interests of women as a gender to have men, who don't want to have sex with them, being women and beating them in the open market.
I want to know how the Olympics are going to handle WWT in 2016 ....... at least that will take the heat off the armed forces for awhile .....
They’ll do what they are doing now–investigating if there’s an issue. Transexuals can compete as women because they “feel like a girl”, they’ve got to lop it off and do several years of hormone therapy.
Our reigning paradigm of silliness in all things\blank slate, tries to pretend sex is “fluid” or some such nonsense. But if the Olympics truly rolled over and fully bought into this nonsense … then female sports would simply be over–a freak show no one cared about. They’ll find a way to not have that happen, even if offends the reigning paradigm of minoritarianism. The obvious counter tactic is it’s a women’s right’s issue.
Bruce Jenner will opine on the Olympics issue, and will perhaps do a cover of Helen Reddy ("I am woman, hear me bore ...."), someone will accuse transwomen of suffering from "Venus Envy", real ciswomen with sweet smelling vulvae will inveigh against the used gym sock smelling transwomen, and ultimately ciswomen will go with the one thing they can do that nobody else can do (babies). Feminists will have problems because they will be squeezed on two fronts: by the transwomen on the one side, and the straight women on the other. Should be fun.
If they tried to turn "born with a vagina" into a woman's rights issue, that would make feminists appear elitist, uncaring, unfeeling, and uncharitable. It would also be privileged, thus giving the lie to feminism in general. I would expect women to roll over at that point, they usually do when you criticize them.
On the other hand, maybe someone will start talking sense. But I don't think that someone will be at the New York Times.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951074
Razib Khan on Ivy League discrimination against East Asians:http://www.unz.com/gnxp/asian-americans-lack-good-character/#new_comments
How many American women really want to have sex with Hillary?
Plenty of female porn stars and slutty party girls in college who experiment with Lesbianism would want to have sex with Hillary.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951080
On the other hand, she probably has a lot less descendants than she would have in a saner society, where maybe she wouldn't have become a CEO, but women would be encouraged to be fertile. And given how all-round good genes she seems to possess, it appears that her reduced fertility is a loss to society. I tend to think extra descendants give people extra happiness in old age, so her life will probably be filled with less happiness than in that alternate reality.
So in all likelihood Social Justice gave her a Faustian bargain.
Well said Mr. Tor — “Faustian Bargain” is exactly what it is.
This sort of “lean in” careerist feminism has offered women nothing but a Faustian bargain. Sacrificing what is important and makes women (and people) happy, for … careerist pablum.
Women like men, have some sort of desire for status, but programed to seek it through capture of high value man as mate. Feminist careerism is “looking for status in all the wrong places”.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951084
They want to have sex with Bill, and Hillary in the White House means Bill back in the White House and in the limelight and in a leadership role.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951099
Our reigning paradigm of silliness in all things\blank slate, tries to pretend sex is "fluid" or some such nonsense. But if the Olympics truly rolled over and fully bought into this nonsense ... then female sports would simply be over--a freak show no one cared about. They'll find a way to not have that happen, even if offends the reigning paradigm of minoritarianism. The obvious counter tactic is it's a women's right's issue.
As WWT gathers steam I fully expect to See Op-Eds in the NYT and articles in the progressive press about how the Olympic Committee is transphobic. (There will also be obligatory references to Avery Brundage, Nazis, Hitler, and so on.)
Bruce Jenner will opine on the Olympics issue, and will perhaps do a cover of Helen Reddy (“I am woman, hear me bore ….”), someone will accuse transwomen of suffering from “Venus Envy”, real ciswomen with sweet smelling vulvae will inveigh against the used gym sock smelling transwomen, and ultimately ciswomen will go with the one thing they can do that nobody else can do (babies). Feminists will have problems because they will be squeezed on two fronts: by the transwomen on the one side, and the straight women on the other. Should be fun.
If they tried to turn “born with a vagina” into a woman’s rights issue, that would make feminists appear elitist, uncaring, unfeeling, and uncharitable. It would also be privileged, thus giving the lie to feminism in general. I would expect women to roll over at that point, they usually do when you criticize them.
On the other hand, maybe someone will start talking sense. But I don’t think that someone will be at the New York Times.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951108
May your first child be a masculine child.
Thanks much, Raekwon.
If you’d like an alternative moniker, might I also submit ‘phallused person of pallor’.
This option has the advantage of featuring ‘the phallus’, which as all of us who’ve been through humanities grad school know is socially-constructed, and hence both more damnable and more potentially malleable (i.e. it can be awakened from its false consciousness and transformed via enlightenment and revolution) than a boring fleshly appendage (which must be physically and messily removed).
The downside here is you lose the jaunty triple alliteration of ‘penised person of pallor.
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I don't think most straight men would want to have sex with a transwoman (it is conceivable, after all). And it's a sure thing that transwomen could not have a man's baby. But in most other competitive environments -- which is why I mentioned the Olympics -- yeah, the transwomen would probably beat out the regular women.
Having said that, I think for a lot of couples -- probably most -- traditional gender roles make a lot of sense. Trust me, no one is going to care how important your career was, or how much money you have, when you retire.
“which is why I mentioned the Olympics ”
I see no reason for concern. The only things in the Olympics that girls and women really are enthusiastic enough about to watch and to practice enough to win, are the things that allow us to show off our nice figures. Gymnastics, ice dancing, beach volleyball. There won’t be any trannies there.
How could there be? To be an Olympic gymnast requires starting at age 3 and continuing to practice uncountable hours until age 12-13-14. Even if there are any boys who want to be girls (or whose crazy lesbian mamas THINK he does and transition him against his will) and actually go through the hormones / maybe surgery at age 6 and who go on to learn gymnastics, they still won’t have the lithe femininity it takes to look good enough to win.
Would trannies win, say, the women’s weightlifting? Yeah, because men have more upper body strength. But who would watch? What’s the point?
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951178
But who would watch? What’s the point?
Well, transwomen would win virtually all the women’s track and field events, for sure. But you make a good point. The only Olympic events my wife likes to watch is the ice skating competition — I think every woman fantasizes about being an ice skater who owns a horse — and the only summer Olympic event I make sure to bookmark is rhythmic gymnastics. What a great event that is. But I don’t want to watch any guys prancing around with ribbons, sorry.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951270
“How many American women really want to have sex with Hillary?”
Plenty of female porn stars and slutty party girls in college who experiment with Lesbianism would want to have sex with Hillary.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951282
Person of Phallor?
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951387
Nice.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951445
Related topic: Apple and Facebook to pay for workers to freeze their eggs. I believe Intel is promising the same thing.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951545
“Apple and Facebook to pay for workers to freeze their eggs.”
They should just tell their workers, kind of like Immortan Joe does in “Mad Max: Fury Road,” that if they work themselves to death without issue, they will be reborn in Silicon Valhalla.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951547
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2759583/I-catheter-look-Model-Andreja-Pejic-jokes-returning-runway-following-gender-reassignment-surgery-new-documentary.html
Andrea Pejic isn’t gay, he claims to be heterosexual.
Autogynephilia is a sexual orientation, like homosexuality and pedophilia. Some AGs are super pretty boys, some look highly masculine, although on average they tend to be more masculine than homosexuals. About 15-25 percent of effeminate boys grow up to be heterosexual, so he’s probably one of these.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-highest-paid-female-c-e-o-s-no-snickering-allowed/#comment-951998