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An NYT editorial on how ho-hum the latest jihadi massacre of 13, including one American, in Barcelona should appear to you if you are a good-thinker:

After the Terror in Barcelona

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD AUG. 18, 2017

There are always many questions after a terrorist attack, some never to be answered.

Ho hum.

… But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda of militant Islam, especially as they turn to rudimentary weapons like the vehicles in Barcelona and Cambrils, or before that in Nice; the Christmas market in Berlin; Westminster Bridge in London; or Drottninggatan, a major pedestrian street in Stockholm. There are questions but there are no longer so many mysteries. … So we know there will be more attacks …

But whaddaya whaddaya … Can we get back to hyperventilating over Charlottesville, please?

The real questions that remain are about ourselves — how we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom, and that guarantee civil rights and the rights of minorities, should react to acts whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedoms.

We who have relentlessly backed Muslim immigration aren’t the bad guys, we are the real victims because Muslims immigrants are making us look bad.

This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants? Should we accept an element of threat as the price for our freedoms?

The important thing is to frontlash!

Similarly, the murder of two Finns by a Moroccan (who?) is too boring to think about.

Back to 24/7 Charlottesville!

 
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  3. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Back to 24/7 Charlottesville!

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wolf-blitzer-wonders-if-barcelona-terror-attack-was-a-charlottesville-copycat/article/2631858

    Wolf Blitzer wonders if Barcelona terror attack was a Charlottesville ‘copycat’

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    This is reaching whole new levels of having your head up the behind.
  4. Gunner says:

    But if a random “Confederate” man killed one NY Times writer, they would advocate death camps for the bad thinkers.

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  5. David says:

    One hundred plus years ago, our society inoculated itself against these problems. From an 1898 American Book Company elementary geography textbook:

    For a time the United States allowed the Chinese to come here; but so many of them were brought across the Pacific that our people became afraid that they would do all the work. It cost them so little to live that they could work much more cheaply than white men, and China has so many people that millions might come away and not be missed. And then, the Chinese who came did not seem to adopt our ways; and hence the government has concluded that, since they are not likely to make desirable citizens, no more Chinese can come into the country.

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    • Replies: @Kaz
    Chinese not adopting our ways?

    Probably because they didn't let them..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NMrqGHr5zE

    Here are some Chinese people that have had roots in America likely longer than most commentators on this site..
    , @Moshe
    I wish people would source their quotes!!

    I found the source, it's here:

    https://archive.org/details/carpentersgeogra00carp
  6. I wouldn’t be surprised if many Muslims feel driven to carry out these attacks because of the expected abuse they fear their fellow Muslims will receive once they’ve done them, so they feel they must be pre-emptively avenged.

    Perhaps if we were all a little more tolerant of those about to commit these atrocities they wouldn’t feel the need to do them and the Muslim community would not be left feeling further isolated and angered by the expected wave of Islamophobia that they would potentially receive.

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  7. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The real questions that remain are about ourselves — how we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom, and that guarantee civil rights and the rights of minorities, should react to acts whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedoms.

    (They’re just “acts”, you can’t actually point to someone doing them.)

    I understand some of the answers are “Punch Nazis” and “hate speech isn’t free speech”.

    But I don’t know, how should we react to the journalist class whose purpose is to turn us against our rights and freedoms?

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  8. When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    When I was ten, I remember reading, in a Superman comic book, how Superman created other robot Supermans to fill in for him while he was being Clark Kent and going out with Lois Lane. I can’t remember if I fully believed 100% that Superman could quite pull such a thing off with his multiple robot Supermans while he was being Clark Kent and dating Lois Lane but when I was in my twenties and actually dating real women, I couldn’t help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).

    Long story short, the NY Times will forever be ten years old. Peter Pan is writing editorials in Manhattan for Lefties, strictly as a goof.

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    • Replies: @Elsewhere

    I couldn’t help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).
     
    This is the plot of the short story "Marionettes, Iwww.unz.comdbury, which I first read about here.
    , @for-the-record
    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    In the first place, the threat was to launch missiles into the sea near Guam, not to "nuke" Guam. Moreover, the US has threatened to attack North Korea multiple times, so turn around is fair play, it seems to me. Also, it should be kept in mind that the US was the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Korean peninsula, in clear violation of the Korean Armistice Agreement [paragraph 13(d)]. North Korea has offered on numerous occasions to give up its nuclear program, in return for a pledge of non-aggression from the US, and the ceasing of aggressive military manuevers, but the US in its wisdom has refused all such overtures.
  9. reiner Tor says: • Website

    … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda

    Except if those young men are alt-right. Then the sure thing to do is to demonize the alt-right and ban all websites even tangentially associated with the alt-right.

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    • Replies: @ic1000
    > … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda

    ... and except if these young men are leftists. Then the thing to do is to demonize the alt-right that provoked them, however tangentially.

    Come to think of it, this is a pretty good strategy for combating jihadism, as well. Criminal violence, too.
    , @syonredux

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?
     
    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That's just common sense.
  10. Tiny Duck says:

    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn’t it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I’d imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare “Islamic” attacks

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    • Replies: @fish

    You manage to still sound ridiculous even when the sentences are marginally coherent.

    - Leonard Pitts
     
    , @Anonymous

    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn’t it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries?

     

    You raise a good point. Terrorism isn't commanded by Islam and Mohammed. Terrorism is just a tactic. What Mohammed and the Koran preach is war, conquest and world domination. Dr. Bill Warner illustrates a timeline of the hundreds of battles over the hundreds of years of Muslim Conquest in this short video:

    https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y?t=695

    Obviously, terrorism wouldn't have worked back then. Massive, relentless, continuous war over over hundreds of years was the only way to practice Islamic jihad.

    Think of it this way: if a lone Muslim "terrorist"dashed off a ship in Catholic Genoa in 800 AD and started stabbing white women shouting "Allahu akbar", he would have been killed on the spot.

    When a second or third Muslim "terrorist" repeated this "terrorist" process in the following days, weeks, and months, the Genoese would have done the healthy, normal, logical thing and just exterminated everyone with a turban (and their families, too, one would hope).

    So you are correct. Terrorism is not an integral part of Islam. It is merely a tactic that is useful when practicing jihad in white liberal societies weakened by the Enlightenment, individualism and the separation of church and state.
    , @Jon Halpenny
    IMO there has always been a terrorist tendenccy in Islam.

    In the early days of Islam there were the Ghazi warriors who raided and spread terror among Christian communities on the borders of Islam
    , @IBC

    That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare “Islamic” attacks
     
    And which version of Islam do you recommend? Sectarian violence has plagued Islam since the death of Muhammad himself. And globally, the majority of Islamic terrorism is sectarian-based and kills far more Muslims than anyone else. With the growing number and diversity of Muslims in Western countries, how long before the West opens up as just another front in the feud?

    So with that possibility in mind, is it time for you and "your partner" to think of contingency plans? Maybe something sexual involving "white women" birthing righteous armies of swarthy little gay rights jihadis, unified in their struggle against "Nazis" and white supremacists? And what about when that last little rag of white polo shirt can no longer absorb anymore brown shoe polish? Do electric vehicles still qualify as zero emissions when they're used as car bombs? Time for the circular firing squad?

    Instead of fantasizing about effecting radical Western demographic change, you should be thinking about ways that Muslims can fix the countries where most of them already live: e.g. how they can reconcile traditional cultures with modernization, promote pragmatic and accountable governments, get along with local non-Muslim groups; and of course, how they can stop perpetually fighting the Islamic version of the Hundred Years' War. And if you (or we) don't have the cure, at least do no harm; that is, don't support Democrats or Republicans who against all experience, still blindly advocate for "regime change" in the Middle East.

    Given the subject's track history, non-Muslim advocacy for ever greater immigration from Islamic countries, would seem to be more about idealistic fantasies and political calculations rather than explicitly helping Muslims. A more mutually pragmatic if less exciting approach would be more along the lines of "meeting people where they are," i.e. respecting reasonable Muslim and non-Muslim sensibilities and facilitating the peaceful and prosperous development of societies where Islam is already the default mainstream culture: In other words, actually caring about the greater number of people and seeing the long-term big picture. Some of your comments are amusing and can be useful as an ideological foil to some of the more extreme sentiments from other commenters. But if taken seriously though, a lot of what you say actually doesn't come across as particularly liberal in spirit. The sentiments are more along the lines of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," and that's an old philosophy that's probably created as many problems as it's solved. So if your stated wishes come true and your persona is based in reality, I'll just say that I hope that you and your partner are cat people...

    For all the Tiny Ducks and militant white supremacists alike out there --be careful what you wish for!

    , @Anon
    Awesome stupidity and ignorance, or awesome trollery? We may never know the true story of Tiny Duck.
    , @MBlanc46
    Okay, I finally get it. This is satire. Nicely done.
  11. ic1000 says:
    @reiner Tor

    … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda
     
    Except if those young men are alt-right. Then the sure thing to do is to demonize the alt-right and ban all websites even tangentially associated with the alt-right.

    > … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda

    … and except if these young men are leftists. Then the thing to do is to demonize the alt-right that provoked them, however tangentially.

    Come to think of it, this is a pretty good strategy for combating jihadism, as well. Criminal violence, too.

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    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Barnard
    You could also try expelling them in mass from your country.
    , @reiner Tor
    Yes, demonizing the alt-right (or anyone even tangentially associated with it or white racial consciousness) and whites in general and banning them from the internet is always a good strategy, works for any problem whatsoever. Or if it doesn't, it just means that we haven't tried it hard enough.
  12. I thought it was pretty amazing that Tor, the number one facilitator for child pornography, felt it needed to virtue signal against “hate”.

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  13. Barnard says:
    @ic1000
    > … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda

    ... and except if these young men are leftists. Then the thing to do is to demonize the alt-right that provoked them, however tangentially.

    Come to think of it, this is a pretty good strategy for combating jihadism, as well. Criminal violence, too.

    You could also try expelling them in mass from your country.

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  14. ic1000 says:

    OT — I don’t really ‘get’ Twitter, and who knows whether or not their “lose money on every sale but make it up on volume” revenue model will evolve in time. While feeds are somewhat hard to follow (at least if you aren’t using the app), Steve retweets some pithy items.

    From @Gelf_Sara [sic] overnight,

    “Net neutrality is pretty irrelevant when a handful of companies can no-platform individuals and groups off the internet completely.”

    “Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a confederate statue erected by Democrats, because Democrats can’t stand their own history anymore, and somehow it’s Trump’s fault? Interesting.”

    “In Britain you literally cannot rock the multicultural boat by talking about the rape of an entire generation of our children. [Breitbart Headline:] Left Wing UK Parliament Member Slammed, Forced to Resign After Warning of Pakistani Rape Gangs in Britain”

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    In Britain at this point given how low the indigenous birth rates are it's not a stretch to argue that the government is at the very least complicit but probably collabrating with rape gangs committing genocide by proxy using the Islamic war criminals who are literally sexually enslaving and in some cases impregnating young native girls with hybrid children, further depressing the native births.
  15. eah says:

    Back to 24/7 Charlottesville!

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    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Pensacola Christian College is not even accredited, it is a joke of a school so I'm not sure how this guy could be harming their reputation in any way.
  16. AndrewR says:

    we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom, and that guarantee civil rights and the rights of minorities

    Unless the minorities in question are an overwhelmingly peaceful and law-abiding group that believes things that threaten the establishment. Then they’re all evil Nazis who should be killed

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  17. But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda of militant Islam, especially as they turn to rudimentary weapons like the vehicles

    Read: If we can’t pin this on gun control laws, then there’s no way to stop it. Now, if they were using guns, repealing the 2nd Amendment would get rid of all terrorism!

    The real questions that remain are about ourselves — how we who live

    or die from a terrorist car attack!

    Should we accept an element of threat as the price for our freedoms?

    Should we accept the risk of being killed, maimed, or seriously injured by a car as the price for less restricted immigration policies? Gee, I dunno! Seems to be working out fine for the EU! (But let’s ignore Japan, Korea, and China though.)

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  18. eah says:

    Ergo virtually the entire Establishment is and nearly all establishment media outlets are…

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  19. bomag says:

    …we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom

    An ironic line, but I suppose they celebrate tolerance and freedom while not letting bad-thinkers have any.

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    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    You have to love and accept everybody, except those who don't.
    The idiot left live in a strange world.
  20. eah says:

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    • Replies: @eah
    Speaking of the Establishment...

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/898880174510317568
    , @BenKenobi
    It's because they know that Islamic terrorism isn't a true threat to the Western Multicult establishment. If anything Islamic terror strengthens it via the ol' one-two of increased surveillance and reduced rights (ie free speech).

    But a critical mass of angry White men (a high percentage of which are veterans of the imperial wars) who wish to throw off the cruel yoke of diversity -- THAT is a real threat to the establishment.
  21. Saxon says:
    @ic1000
    OT -- I don't really 'get' Twitter, and who knows whether or not their "lose money on every sale but make it up on volume" revenue model will evolve in time. While feeds are somewhat hard to follow (at least if you aren't using the app), Steve retweets some pithy items.

    From @Gelf_Sara [sic] overnight,

    "Net neutrality is pretty irrelevant when a handful of companies can no-platform individuals and groups off the internet completely."

    "Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a confederate statue erected by Democrats, because Democrats can't stand their own history anymore, and somehow it's Trump's fault? Interesting."

    "In Britain you literally cannot rock the multicultural boat by talking about the rape of an entire generation of our children. [Breitbart Headline:] Left Wing UK Parliament Member Slammed, Forced to Resign After Warning of Pakistani Rape Gangs in Britain"

    In Britain at this point given how low the indigenous birth rates are it’s not a stretch to argue that the government is at the very least complicit but probably collabrating with rape gangs committing genocide by proxy using the Islamic war criminals who are literally sexually enslaving and in some cases impregnating young native girls with hybrid children, further depressing the native births.

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  22. Mass immigration brings Islamic Terrorism to European Christian nations such as Spain and Finland. The New York Times pushes mass immigration.

    The New York Times is controlled by the Sulzberger mob. Carlos Slim, a Mexican billionaire, owns a good-sized chunk of the New York Times.

    From the New York Times:

    Mr. Slim will receive no representation on the company’s board or any shares with special voting rights like those of the Sulzberger family, which controls the company. Nonetheless, when Mr. Slim exercises the warrants, he will be among the largest single shareholders in the Times Company, owning up to 17 percent of the common shares outstanding.

    Mexican Billionaire Invests in The New York Times Company https://nyti.ms/2vNoYtL

    The Sulzberger mob and the Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim both push open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. The Sulzberger mob is Jewish. Carlos Slim is ethnically Lebanese.

    White Core Americans must battle to retake the corporate media from the anti-White elements who push mass immigration. It is a question of national security and civilizational survival.

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  23. TheJester says:

    Headline

    Farage claims ‘direct link between immigration & terrorism,’ despite evidence to contrary …

    Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has blamed immigration and free movement in the European Union for the recent spate of terrorist attacks, just hours after the fatal Barcelona assault on Thursday. UN research, however, warns against imposing controls.

    … A UN report, however, argues the kind of restrictive migration policies Farage wants to tackle terrorist activity may in fact lead to the opposite outcome.

    “While there is no evidence that migration leads to increased terrorist activity, migration policies that are restrictive or that violate human rights may in fact create conditions conducive to terrorism,” Ben Emmerson, the special rapporteur on counter-terrorism and human rights, told the UN General Assembly in New York last year.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/400123-farage-link-immigration-terrorism/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    There you have it. According to the UN, there is no link between inviting Muslim immigrants into your country and Islamic terrorism. Indeed, it’s a Catch-22: Restrict Islamic immigration and the terrorism may get worse … just in case someone was of a mind to try to do so.

    I’m confused. It seems that the whole problem started with the presence of Muslims in large numbers within the contiguous borders of the Western countries in the European Union. Eastern countries such as Poland and Hungary refused to admit Muslim immigrants. They have yet to experience a Muslim terrorist attack.

    In spite of the UN, it should be obvious that terrorists cannot carry out terror attacks within a country unless they have a physical presence within the country. Let’s call this the First Principle of Terrorism … physical presence.

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    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    The UN has turned into a pathetic, far-left useless and expensive (for the US) rathole that has fallen far short of the expectations when it was established decades ago.

    Before muslim immigration: No "terrorism"
    After muslim immigration: "terrorism."

    I am old enough to remember here in the US boarding a plane without disrobing and without showing a government-issued ID. we had a lot of freedoms then, which we longer have because we have allowed too many muslims into the US. Once they reach critical mass, then stupid western governments start doing things like creating expensive, useless bureaucratic monstrosities like TSA to help "protect" us with procedures that 99% of the flying public knows are complete theatrics. How many terrorists have the TSA apprehended?

    In any event, the UN is a joke and we should withdraw and kick them out of NYC and use the money we save to build the wall.
    , @ben tillman

    Farage claims ‘direct link between immigration & terrorism,’ despite evidence to contrary …
     
    Evidence to the contrary? Did Charles Dodgson write the headline?
  24. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s interesting that now even NYT is pondering whether limiting immigration, particularly from Muslim countries, is a possible response that might be needed to protect the people.

    It’s been a central platform of Trump, and one which Hillary completely rejected. But I thought Trump was BAD BAD BAD, every action and every word whether actually said by him or not, was evil and wrong.

    I’m sure they’ll come up with some BS for the cognitive dissonance soon. About the only thing they’re good at is these Rube Goldbergesque justifications for their hypocritical nonsensical belief structure.

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  25. @ic1000
    > … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda

    ... and except if these young men are leftists. Then the thing to do is to demonize the alt-right that provoked them, however tangentially.

    Come to think of it, this is a pretty good strategy for combating jihadism, as well. Criminal violence, too.

    Yes, demonizing the alt-right (or anyone even tangentially associated with it or white racial consciousness) and whites in general and banning them from the internet is always a good strategy, works for any problem whatsoever. Or if it doesn’t, it just means that we haven’t tried it hard enough.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    That's not exactly it, though.

    Its a demonstration of power. Right now, they are demonstrating nakedly that they can destroy your lives and silence you from even speaking with the like-minded if they wish. And it looks like they will succeed.

    If somehow the various WN movements, etc manage to not get destroyed and still manage to communicate on a basic level, then that survival would be a victory. Right now, its not certain.

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.
  26. Elsewhere says:

    Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    Our government would rather use its extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and block citizens who oppose immigrants.

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  27. Lagertha says:

    I feel so weird now, since before I left Finland, I remarked that Finland will have to have some people wasted until they wake-up. I come from a small town, and, these past few months I’ve lost some childhood friends (all PsyOpsed SJW’s or Boomer, privileged sympathizers of PC) on FB (I don’t care; which infuriated them more, haha) but my last words on jihadism are now echoing in their ears, no doubt.

    The most vicious thing (I’ve obviously, been following this news on numerous platforms) was that the jihadie (had been denied asylum/citizenship – Morocco not in conflict zone) killed/knifed women, intentionally. He literally attacked a woman holding an infant! – this mother did not die, but came close.

    It is infuriating that Finland does not publish names of perps or possible race/ethnicity; considering so many Muslim men are loitering on the streets of Finnish cities & 300 are on a “terrorist watch list”….but the possible Madonna & Child killing, was a bridge-too-far for the Finnish folk. The Finnish media (all compromised) can not contain the squawkers, and they are legion, on the internet….and Finns are addicts with internet anything. Also, the Finnish language (so old and complex) is very difficult to translate (a lot of slang, weird slang) that Front-Lashing or sanitizing the facts in order to stay PC, control the narrative, is impossible. I mean, this happened in Turku, the oldest city in Finland, in a central square on a beautiful, late summer Sunday!

    Weird fact that has nothing to do with this terrorist attack: When Sweden sent it’s first bishop to Turku in the 12th century to civilize the Finns/bring Christianity; they decapitated him. So, in some weird way, I think jihadies are aware that Finnish men are brutish, unpredictable and capable of violence with their bare hands (knives are still sort of revered in Finland; men don’t usually carry them unless they are fishing or something), so jihadies will go after women. I was in the company of some Americans this summer, and they remarked how tall the Finnish men (and just big) and women were. Also, few Muslim men from the Middle East/NA are as tall and broad-chested/backed as Finns. And, a lot of bald guys, so, yeah, they look a bit menacing in the Nazi sort of way.

    And, yes, the narcissistic arrogance (really, myopia by now) of the NYT writers never ceases to amaze/disgust me. In some ways, until they or their own, are mowed down by a car in Europe, Asia, USA, Canada, Australia…or stabbed by a stabby jihadie, they will keep writing smug pieces like this. The arrogance and condescension of the Progressives (such a disingenuous label for them) is what lost this election for them, and, they still haven’t figured that out!

    It is always about the economy, national security, limiting immigration, for citizens of any country, now, and for the foreseeable future. People can not deny their animal nature: fright or flight/fear of the unknown/survival of the fittest/small group cooperation…hmmmmm?…insects will kill us all in the end, after the world is hobbled with too many people, and bugs will ignore diversity and multiculturalism as they start to cull people who have exhausted all resources…this being a poor attempt at humor over such a horrible situation in my homeland.

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  28. Anon7 says:

    “Can we get back to hyperventilating over Charlottesville, please?”

    Charlottesville is this week’s Russia.

    I think of the “Russia” brouhaha as a kind of bone that liberals chew on whenever they start getting confused and angry that HRC is not president. They start chewing and grinding and tasting their own juices until the bad feeling goes away. They imagine that President Trump will be impeached any day now – he’s not really the president! And that helps them feel better.

    Conservatives used the Birther idea the same way. If you simply couldn’t believe that this untested clueless young black guy was the president, you could kind of chew on the Birther idea in the back of your mind and imagine that he would be found out and removed, and in the meantime, he’s not really the president! It felt better.

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  29. @TheJester
    Headline

    Farage claims ‘direct link between immigration & terrorism,’ despite evidence to contrary ...

    Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has blamed immigration and free movement in the European Union for the recent spate of terrorist attacks, just hours after the fatal Barcelona assault on Thursday. UN research, however, warns against imposing controls.

    ... A UN report, however, argues the kind of restrictive migration policies Farage wants to tackle terrorist activity may in fact lead to the opposite outcome.

    “While there is no evidence that migration leads to increased terrorist activity, migration policies that are restrictive or that violate human rights may in fact create conditions conducive to terrorism,” Ben Emmerson, the special rapporteur on counter-terrorism and human rights, told the UN General Assembly in New York last year.
     
    https://www.rt.com/uk/400123-farage-link-immigration-terrorism/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    There you have it. According to the UN, there is no link between inviting Muslim immigrants into your country and Islamic terrorism. Indeed, it's a Catch-22: Restrict Islamic immigration and the terrorism may get worse ... just in case someone was of a mind to try to do so.

    I'm confused. It seems that the whole problem started with the presence of Muslims in large numbers within the contiguous borders of the Western countries in the European Union. Eastern countries such as Poland and Hungary refused to admit Muslim immigrants. They have yet to experience a Muslim terrorist attack.

    In spite of the UN, it should be obvious that terrorists cannot carry out terror attacks within a country unless they have a physical presence within the country. Let's call this the First Principle of Terrorism ... physical presence.

    The UN has turned into a pathetic, far-left useless and expensive (for the US) rathole that has fallen far short of the expectations when it was established decades ago.

    Before muslim immigration: No “terrorism”
    After muslim immigration: “terrorism.”

    I am old enough to remember here in the US boarding a plane without disrobing and without showing a government-issued ID. we had a lot of freedoms then, which we longer have because we have allowed too many muslims into the US. Once they reach critical mass, then stupid western governments start doing things like creating expensive, useless bureaucratic monstrosities like TSA to help “protect” us with procedures that 99% of the flying public knows are complete theatrics. How many terrorists have the TSA apprehended?

    In any event, the UN is a joke and we should withdraw and kick them out of NYC and use the money we save to build the wall.

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  30. syonredux says:
    @reiner Tor

    … But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda
     
    Except if those young men are alt-right. Then the sure thing to do is to demonize the alt-right and ban all websites even tangentially associated with the alt-right.

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That’s just common sense.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That’s just common sense.
     
    Alternatively, we could just privatize the whole "surveil-investigate-purge" bad Whites thing. After all, companies like Twitter, Uber, and Airbnb are already doing a bang-up job at stifling those Thought Criminals....
  31. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?
     
    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That's just common sense.

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That’s just common sense.

    Alternatively, we could just privatize the whole “surveil-investigate-purge” bad Whites thing. After all, companies like Twitter, Uber, and Airbnb are already doing a bang-up job at stifling those Thought Criminals….

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    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Alternatively, (I know you're being satirical) we could suggest everyone go home.

    1. No dual citizens. Pick one & go home.
    2. If you look and behave more like the first part than the second part of your self-description "(blank)-American," Go Home.

    End all subsidies for foreigners. If you don't have medical coverage, you will be deported upon presentation to an emergency room, even if in cardiac arrest or if bleeding arterially. No free rides.

    Imagine how places now crowded would be less so...
  32. eah says:
    @eah
    https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/apple/96/thinking-face_1f914.png

    https://twitter.com/RisenCoach/status/897949987115544582

    Speaking of the Establishment…

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    • Replies: @eah
    Speaking of immigrants paying pensions...France.

    https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/898923978198331393
    , @Bleuteaux
    They'll never pay taxes, obviously.

    But if we think of this in terms of the bloodlust for higher GDP, more immigrants means more housing stock, infrastructure spending, education spending. All of that could continue to drive up the stock market. Paid for indirectly by higher prices for everything by the taxpaying public. I'd prefer a system collapse, to the point where boomers living on SS and pensions are forced to majorly downsize, myself.

    After we look like a nationwide favella, we'll get a collapse. Sooner or later.
  33. Whiskey says: • Website

    More evidence if any was needed that we live in a Matriarchy. I have observed years ago that White women have decisively moved away from White men and allied themselves with Muslims, Blacks, Hispanics etc. over their fury that every White man is NOT Tom Brady.

    No, really, that is the reason.

    If our elites look stupid, emotional, hysterical, frenzied, neurotic, etc. it is because they are driven by women. By what exists as a defacto matriarchy. Just as Carlos Slim does not have to possess majority voting rights to influence the NYT (the Suzlbergers cannot alienate Slim to the point where he withdraws his money by selling off the shares or calling in the loans he doubtless has made off the books) — our male led elites depend on a cadre of young women who work for peanuts and can end careers by accusations of sexual impropriety. They also have wives and daughters they constantly cuck to in a vain attempt to appease them. Exhibit A: Cuck in Chief Donald Trump and appeasing Ivanka by throwing Steve Bannon overboard.

    Muslim men are winners; they kill people, treat women like dirt, and women want more of that. So they make excuses and the elites who are driven by Upper Class women and the young women around them who act as their gophers/mistresses follow suit.

    White nationalists and those even arguing for less mass Third World immigration are NOT winners. Kanye West does not hang out with them. They don’t kill people and treat women like dirt. They don’t have 1.5 billion co-religionists willing to do the same. They use reason and logic instead of fear and dominance.

    Trump is toast now — he had to cancel appearing at the Kennedy Center Honors to prevent a mass boycott which will probably happen anyway if he’s still in office. At this point its a question if a Mitt Romney/McCain/Graham/Clinton led coup with McMasters and Kelly outs Trump and installs, probably Kamala Harris or maybe Maxine Waters will beat impeachment and removal. Trump is only six votes away in the Senate from removal and is already cucking hard to appease Ivanka. Who in turn has the approval of gay fashion designers as her number one priority.

    Hence the frontlash. Ivanka Trump is the rotten-ness of our society writ large. We rely on women being moral superwomen and have no structural check to align their interests with White men instead of fabulous famous gay fashion designers and Instagram Fame Whores.

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  34. Wow, NY really did purge everyone who was here 50 years ago.

    As I recall, I actually enjoyed WAY more freedom in 1972 than now, and I don’t recall thinking “gee, I sure wish there were tons of alien people carrying alien cultures crowding everywhere I go.”

    NYT: Retconning America, From Duranty Forward.

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  35. But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda of militant Islam,

    Yet Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have no issues with militant Islam. What a mystery indeed.

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    • Replies: @Beckow
    The Central European countries are normal and normalcy is the surest defense. They have not gone through the post-modernist transition into absurdity as most of the West.

    The Westerners are stuck - they can't admit that the last few decades have been a huge mistake, but they also instinctively don't want to go down with the ship. An ugly dilemma. As always people do what is easiest: most try to live out their lives hoping that they will be gone before the real sh..t starts. Others try to spread the misery by pressuring Central Europe to join the madness. Avoidance and schadenfreude will buy some time, but at the end this will be a catastrophe.
    , @Rod1963
    You know if a brand of cars would randomly blow up, decapitate people, or suddenly start up and run over pedestrians. It would banned the ones on the road scrapped. There would be debate, it would just happen.

    Yet our solution is to bring in more of them. Then act surprised when these imports go on a bloody rampage.

    A clear indication that our leaders are either insane or truly stupid. Probably both.
  36. @reiner Tor
    Yes, demonizing the alt-right (or anyone even tangentially associated with it or white racial consciousness) and whites in general and banning them from the internet is always a good strategy, works for any problem whatsoever. Or if it doesn't, it just means that we haven't tried it hard enough.

    That’s not exactly it, though.

    Its a demonstration of power. Right now, they are demonstrating nakedly that they can destroy your lives and silence you from even speaking with the like-minded if they wish. And it looks like they will succeed.

    If somehow the various WN movements, etc manage to not get destroyed and still manage to communicate on a basic level, then that survival would be a victory. Right now, its not certain.

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.

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    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Too much emphasis on high tech (which is lazy.) Until & unless the USPS won't deliver politically unpopular newsletters, this is meaningless.

    We're heading back to less tech. It's inevitable.
    , @scrivener3

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.
     
    I think that we have a few companies presently enjoying the benefit of network effect (which defends them from competition), destroying the value of their product. Already freer alternatives are springing up and gaining users.
  37. @syonredux

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    The answer to that question is clearly negative. On the other hand, we definitely should arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate, and purge Whites who harbor anti-immigrant views. That’s just common sense.
     
    Alternatively, we could just privatize the whole "surveil-investigate-purge" bad Whites thing. After all, companies like Twitter, Uber, and Airbnb are already doing a bang-up job at stifling those Thought Criminals....

    Alternatively, (I know you’re being satirical) we could suggest everyone go home.

    1. No dual citizens. Pick one & go home.
    2. If you look and behave more like the first part than the second part of your self-description “(blank)-American,” Go Home.

    End all subsidies for foreigners. If you don’t have medical coverage, you will be deported upon presentation to an emergency room, even if in cardiac arrest or if bleeding arterially. No free rides.

    Imagine how places now crowded would be less so…

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  38. Elsewhere says:
    @Detective Club
    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    When I was ten, I remember reading, in a Superman comic book, how Superman created other robot Supermans to fill in for him while he was being Clark Kent and going out with Lois Lane. I can't remember if I fully believed 100% that Superman could quite pull such a thing off with his multiple robot Supermans while he was being Clark Kent and dating Lois Lane but when I was in my twenties and actually dating real women, I couldn't help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).

    Long story short, the NY Times will forever be ten years old. Peter Pan is writing editorials in Manhattan for Lefties, strictly as a goof.

    I couldn’t help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).

    This is the plot of the short story “Marionettes, Iwww.unz.comdbury, which I first read about here.

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    • Replies: @Detective Club
    Thanks for the info. This plot appears to be a very short story (less than 8 pages long) from Ray Bradbury's "The Illustrated Man," first published in 1951. This very short story, in Bradbury's collection, is entitled "Marionettes, Inc." The DC comic, which I read and which impressed me so much, came out about 15 years after "The Illustrated Man." It looks like DC stole Bradbury's plot, lock, stock, and barrel - - - although the plot itself probably dates from Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein." You know, mankind's fabrications or creations turning on the creators or the masters and that the things we create can often take on a mind or a soul of their own.
  39. Hubbub says:

    This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants? Should we accept an element of threat as the price for our freedoms?

    The “heart of the fierce debates” should be why do we allow the threats into our societies in the first place. How stupid can a society be to permit its own destruction in the name of nebulous diversity and multiculturalism? Multiculturalism will end when one of these ‘disparate’ entities assumes literal dominance.

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  40. @Daniel Chieh
    That's not exactly it, though.

    Its a demonstration of power. Right now, they are demonstrating nakedly that they can destroy your lives and silence you from even speaking with the like-minded if they wish. And it looks like they will succeed.

    If somehow the various WN movements, etc manage to not get destroyed and still manage to communicate on a basic level, then that survival would be a victory. Right now, its not certain.

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.

    Too much emphasis on high tech (which is lazy.) Until & unless the USPS won’t deliver politically unpopular newsletters, this is meaningless.

    We’re heading back to less tech. It’s inevitable.

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  41. Anon7 says:

    Speaking of Charlottesville, I’ve noticed that the story about James Fields, the guy who killed a woman with his car in Charlottesville, has dropped out of the news, particularly the story of what actually occurred.

    There is video all over the Internet that shows what happened. It starts with drone footage that shows a red minivan running a stop sign, and then coming to a stop in the middle of an intersection full of protesters who were milling around. This is where the dramatic “Domestic terrorist drives into a crowd of good guy innocent people!” story comes from. But that’s not Fields’ car. No one appears to have been injured.

    Then, a white Toyota driven by a couple of black women pulls up behind the minivan and stops. (They were interviewed in the NYT.) Not the guy.

    Finally, Fields comes down the narrow road driving a gray Dodge Challenger. It appears that a protester jumps off the sidewalk to hit his car with a bat. He ducks down and then rear-ends the white Toyota which hits the minivan, and they all go further into the intersection. This appears to be where the woman is killed, but I’m not sure whose car actually strikes the woman. There is a picture of the passenger compartment of the guy’s car that shows only his hands on the steering wheel: he might have been crouched down to protect himself while steering the car when the impact occurred. Then a half-dozen antifa jump out of the crowd wearing helmets and body armor, armed with bats and two-by-fours and start hitting his car, breaking windows. He puts the car in reverse and backs away, going a full block in reverse; a variety of protesters attacking him bounce off his car in the process.

    I’m not saying Fields is innocent, he’s responsible for his vehicle. But the “Domestic terrorist purposely drives into a crowd” story is false, which could be why they are concentrating on showing that the guy is a neo Nazi. It will all come out in the trial, if there is one.

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  42. eah says:
    @eah
    Speaking of the Establishment...

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/898880174510317568

    Speaking of immigrants paying pensions…France.

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    Just to clean this up -- sometimes the comment SW here does not work as expected/as it usually does.

    Here is the tweet -- and below is the foto accompanying the tweet:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmegvqXoAAh0-t.jpg
  43. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    You manage to still sound ridiculous even when the sentences are marginally coherent.

    - Leonard Pitts

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  44. Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    Today I learned that blocking immigrants requires arming our government with extraordinary power.

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  45. Lugash says:

    Looks like SBPDL is being purged from the Internet.

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    Thanks for that - I said "NFW" when I saw the Google login requirement.
  46. syonredux says:

    You know, maybe all of us here reading Steve Sailer are just un-WOKE. Maybe we need to get educated about what’s wrong with Anglo-America:

    Syllabus for White People to Educate Themselves

    On Wednesday, November 9, many of us woke up shocked. Many young people felt robbed of what little idealism about this country they had left. Many older white folks felt confused, or like the country they had lived in their whole lives was maybe not what they thought it was. Others clung to their belief that America is still a fundamentally good country, slowly but surely moving in the right direction. They said: “Not all Donald Trump’s supporters believe in his racist rhetoric. We need to humanize the angry white working class.” But you cannot selectively support a platform like this. Donald Trump’s election is a countrywide stamp of approval for his platform of hate and fear, and a reminder that this country, at its core, is a white supremacist state. American exceptionalism and myths about this country’s origins and history fuel the misguided belief that America was ever great, and that Trump and the violence that has escalated since he took office, most recently in Charlottesville, is anything new.
    Now is the time to affirm our support for those whose lives are in danger. Bigots are not in fear for their lives because they are bigots (and even if they are, that’s a disgusting way of life they chose). People of color are. A “difference of opinion” is how you like your coffee, or debates over trade policy. Opinions that dehumanize others, that incite violence against them, cannot be treated as merely “opinions.” They must be called what they are: bigotry and white supremacy.
    We need to be thinking about how we are thinking about this election and its aftermath. This sense of comfort, of insulation from the horrors of America, is precisely what this syllabus is meant to disrupt. We, white people, clearly weren’t listening hard enough to people of color, to women, to queer people, to immigrants, to Muslims, to anyone who holds a marginalized identity. This did not come as a shock to many marginalized people. Instead, as a friend of mine put it: “I am hurt but my hurt comes mainly from having my fears proven. Not from surprise. I am so angry because there are so many people who needed this result to prove to them the divide of this country instead of listening to the voices of their token friends. Instead of hearing. Instead of trusting.” Now is the time to hear. Now is the time to educate and propel that education into action.

    How can we make sense of this election and move forward accordingly?
    We can start by facing the fact that the United States has always been and is still currently a white supremacist state. For many of people in color, this election wasn’t a surprise–it was a confirmation of their fears.

    How exactly do white supremacy and systemic racism operate? How have we been complicit in reproducing racist ideology?

    A history of #BlackLivesMatter

    How did white liberal culture, as well as systemic racism and
    white supremacy, directly contribute to Donald Trump’s election?

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1By9bUjJ78snEeZuLXNGBdlVMJgEQWMEjR-Gfx8ER7Iw/mobilebasic#heading=h.bi12zdslqy3z

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  47. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Weird. The Finn reporter says its a shame that African Muslims stabbed 6 women were and 2 men, “… but we can’t and we wont give in to the ideologies of hate.”

    What on earth is he talking about?

    Why would anyone “give in” to violent murderous African Muslim “ideologies” (actually “religions”) of hate? Do Finnlanders typically “give in” to mass murder attempts? Surely the Finnish police aren’t “giving in”. They are in the street holding machine guns at the ready.

    I must have missed something.

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  48. BenKenobi says:
    @eah
    https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/apple/96/thinking-face_1f914.png

    https://twitter.com/RisenCoach/status/897949987115544582

    It’s because they know that Islamic terrorism isn’t a true threat to the Western Multicult establishment. If anything Islamic terror strengthens it via the ol’ one-two of increased surveillance and reduced rights (ie free speech).

    But a critical mass of angry White men (a high percentage of which are veterans of the imperial wars) who wish to throw off the cruel yoke of diversity — THAT is a real threat to the establishment.

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  49. @Detective Club
    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    When I was ten, I remember reading, in a Superman comic book, how Superman created other robot Supermans to fill in for him while he was being Clark Kent and going out with Lois Lane. I can't remember if I fully believed 100% that Superman could quite pull such a thing off with his multiple robot Supermans while he was being Clark Kent and dating Lois Lane but when I was in my twenties and actually dating real women, I couldn't help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).

    Long story short, the NY Times will forever be ten years old. Peter Pan is writing editorials in Manhattan for Lefties, strictly as a goof.

    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    In the first place, the threat was to launch missiles into the sea near Guam, not to “nuke” Guam. Moreover, the US has threatened to attack North Korea multiple times, so turn around is fair play, it seems to me. Also, it should be kept in mind that the US was the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Korean peninsula, in clear violation of the Korean Armistice Agreement [paragraph 13(d)]. North Korea has offered on numerous occasions to give up its nuclear program, in return for a pledge of non-aggression from the US, and the ceasing of aggressive military manuevers, but the US in its wisdom has refused all such overtures.

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    Cool story, bro.
    , @Detective Club
    I don't know where to begin. Perhaps I should mention just one thing. When President Bill Clinton came to an agreement with North Korea more than twenty years ago, didn't that "peace" agreement foreclose on the possibility that the nuclear plant, which the United States wound up giving North Korea, would not be used to refine and enrich uranium for the ultimate goal of making weapons-grade material for nukes? I seem to recall that North Korea refused to allow UN weapons inspectors access to this new nuclear plant about ten years after Clinton's highly touted agreement with North Korea was put into effect. Shortly after kicking the UN inspectors out, North Korea detonated its first nuclear bomb in flagrant violation of President Clinton's "peace" agreement with North Korea.

    And another thing : bombing the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs rather than ICBMs with nuclear-tipped warheads can hardly be called a peaceful act.

    Oh, those krazy kids from North Korea. When they say they're going to lob an ICBM or two at your coastline, they're just trying to get your attention! They mean no harm!
  50. This is at the heart of the fierce debates over security in Europe and the United States:… Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants? Should we accept an element of threat as the price for our freedoms?

    All immigrants? I see what they did here! Anyway, it’s not necessary to use extraordinary powers on all immigrants. For example, I don’t think any of the old Chinese women immigrants in my neighborhood will be committing acts of terrorism soon. Unless you consider using scarce government resources from the minute they step “off-the-boat” terrorism.

    OT (but, then again, maybe it is related)…

    Tina Fey virtue signals.

    “The next time when you see a bunch of white boys in polo shirts screaming about taking our country back and you want to scream, it’s not our country, we stole it,” she said with a mouth full of cake. “We stole from the Native Americans.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/tina-fey-sounds-off-on-jackass-trump-nazis-are-always-bad

    What’s wrong with polo shirts? Not to mention white people. And guys for that matter.

    I really don’t understand the logic of “if there are bad guys on one side, then the other side are all good guys. ” Am I missing something? Can any W.V.O. Quines out there enlighten me?

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  51. OT – sorry, you all know I don’t do this often:

    Paul Kersey’s “Stuff Black People Don’t Like” site is not on blogspot right now (checked “sbpdl” and spelled out). His older WordPress sites are there but one goes through 2010 and another through 2013, but not the recent site.

    Anyone with info?

    (BTW, what I like about unz here, is would probably take a whole lot to take this site off in some way, with the big shot computer mogul (and I don’t mean any offense with that) Ron Unz in charge. The stuff that someone brought up here about GoDaddy wiping out someone’s domain registration * – that is a real problem. I thought the url was registered with ICANN, and yes I realize some control of this has been given away from the US by more traitors in the Feral Gov. Would GoDaddy actually un-register that url with an IP number for hosting? I know someone here knows this stuff way better than me and one friend who kinda used to understand all this.

    * it was a few days back, probably a dozen posts ago now on iSteve’s section, in a list of about 20 things that the cntrl-left was doing to shut down dissent.)

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  52. scrivener3 says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh
    That's not exactly it, though.

    Its a demonstration of power. Right now, they are demonstrating nakedly that they can destroy your lives and silence you from even speaking with the like-minded if they wish. And it looks like they will succeed.

    If somehow the various WN movements, etc manage to not get destroyed and still manage to communicate on a basic level, then that survival would be a victory. Right now, its not certain.

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.

    But its plainly a display of power. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like they really do have all of the institutions and all of the technology on their side. With the exception of Gab, the Right has been too complacent on resting on the technologies of a hostile force.

    I think that we have a few companies presently enjoying the benefit of network effect (which defends them from competition), destroying the value of their product. Already freer alternatives are springing up and gaining users.

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  53. “The real questions that remain are about ourselves — how we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom, and that guarantee civil rights and the rights of minorities, should react to acts whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedoms.”

    Therefore, in order to fully cherish and celebrate diversity and tolerance, and to continue to guarantee civil rights and the rights of minorities, while standing ever vigilant in protecting those rights and freedoms, the course of action remains perfectly clear: To completely abolish all rights of the white majority of America, as well as to destroy all of their public historical markers (e.g. statues) that would lead one to think that whites per se have the same rights as others in our multicultural and diverse society. Should this course of action meet conflict from the evil white supremacists (those who refuse to cower in shame and submit to diversity) then the course of action is also clear: Strip them of all their civil rights, round them up, and put them in concentration camps. It’s just retribution for all the evils that whites as a group have committed vs peoples of color throughout their history and only by destroying all positive images of whiteness can we as a society move forward into a brave new world where rights and freedoms are guaranteed for all peoples (except whites who would no longer be a part of the brave new world).

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  54. @syonredux
    You know, maybe all of us here reading Steve Sailer are just un-WOKE. Maybe we need to get educated about what's wrong with Anglo-America:

    Syllabus for White People to Educate Themselves

    On Wednesday, November 9, many of us woke up shocked. Many young people felt robbed of what little idealism about this country they had left. Many older white folks felt confused, or like the country they had lived in their whole lives was maybe not what they thought it was. Others clung to their belief that America is still a fundamentally good country, slowly but surely moving in the right direction. They said: “Not all Donald Trump’s supporters believe in his racist rhetoric. We need to humanize the angry white working class.” But you cannot selectively support a platform like this. Donald Trump’s election is a countrywide stamp of approval for his platform of hate and fear, and a reminder that this country, at its core, is a white supremacist state. American exceptionalism and myths about this country’s origins and history fuel the misguided belief that America was ever great, and that Trump and the violence that has escalated since he took office, most recently in Charlottesville, is anything new.
    Now is the time to affirm our support for those whose lives are in danger. Bigots are not in fear for their lives because they are bigots (and even if they are, that’s a disgusting way of life they chose). People of color are. A “difference of opinion” is how you like your coffee, or debates over trade policy. Opinions that dehumanize others, that incite violence against them, cannot be treated as merely “opinions.” They must be called what they are: bigotry and white supremacy.
    We need to be thinking about how we are thinking about this election and its aftermath. This sense of comfort, of insulation from the horrors of America, is precisely what this syllabus is meant to disrupt. We, white people, clearly weren’t listening hard enough to people of color, to women, to queer people, to immigrants, to Muslims, to anyone who holds a marginalized identity. This did not come as a shock to many marginalized people. Instead, as a friend of mine put it: “I am hurt but my hurt comes mainly from having my fears proven. Not from surprise. I am so angry because there are so many people who needed this result to prove to them the divide of this country instead of listening to the voices of their token friends. Instead of hearing. Instead of trusting.” Now is the time to hear. Now is the time to educate and propel that education into action.
     

    How can we make sense of this election and move forward accordingly?
    We can start by facing the fact that the United States has always been and is still currently a white supremacist state. For many of people in color, this election wasn’t a surprise–it was a confirmation of their fears.
     

    How exactly do white supremacy and systemic racism operate? How have we been complicit in reproducing racist ideology?
     

    A history of #BlackLivesMatter
     

    How did white liberal culture, as well as systemic racism and
    white supremacy, directly contribute to Donald Trump’s election?
     
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1By9bUjJ78snEeZuLXNGBdlVMJgEQWMEjR-Gfx8ER7Iw/mobilebasic#heading=h.bi12zdslqy3z

    Leftists (SJWS) always double down.

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  55. A Finn says:

    Finland’s Prime Minister Juha Sipilä just said in a press conference that this issue affects all European countries. Funny, I don’t remember seeing this in countries like Poland or Estonia or other Eastern European countries that don’t take in lots of Muslim immigrants.

    And yes, there’s just massive frontlash by the liberal media, politicians and talking heads (“terrorism experts”). Muslims are the real victims here, because of all the backlash against them. Hate-filled racists are the real problem. That’s pretty much all they talk about. And some of the people fighting off the attacker were immigrants, so they’re of course pushing that narrative strongly. We can all become terrorist victims together, how beautiful.

    I remember that Steve long held a false view of Finland, that we were like Japan when it comes to immigration, that our politicians were sensible. That may have been true up until the 1990s. We just got a somewhat late start to this compared to our Western neighbors.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I caused a stir this year when I said on social media that my grandfathers fought for nothing in both 1917 and WW2 for Finland! This was in relation to events planned for the 100th anniversary. I gained a lot of "friends" which was unexpected. I deleted my post even though, no one, absolutely no one had the guts to troll me.

    At some military events honoring the 100th year independence, I repeated my feelings, and, sadly, it resonated with some attendees. I really feel that Finland has gone Bolshevik/Cultural Marxist in a big way since joining the dreadful EU - people are really PsyOpsed by Sipila, Stubb, Merkel, etc. What a loss! I am truly ashamed of the Finnish people, well most, because in their utter complacency, they take their independence for granted, whine about income inequality, taxes, yet don't understand that free stuff is not free, and, that these immigrants that don't intend on assimilating, are a tax burden on them, not to mention the high amount of rapes by Muslim men, even of children in Finland. Finland is not as bad as Sweden, but they are pretty pathetic. Sort of glad my parents emigrated to the states...but, yeah, the sacrifice of almost a generation of men in 1939-40 was such a waste on an ungrateful, lazy, intellectually challenged public today.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Muslims are the real victims here

    Winston Moseley, who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death, explained that he was the real victim of the crime at his first parole hearing. saying, "For a victim outside, it's a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who's caught, it's forever."

    I found that an interesting insight into the mentality of a psychopathic killer.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    You were doomed ever since Nokia was letting people go for not providing positive feedback. I do love the Finnnish(one of my girlfriends was Finnish) but the sheer illogic that drives the policies is amazing.

    My time in the country convinced me that immigration is a secondary disease, a result of socialism causing major dysfunction in economic systems which then requires a fresh influx of workers due to the present wage structure dynamics(among others) having become insanely broken.
  56. Lot says:

    “whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedom.”

    No, they want to conquer us. If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.

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    • Replies: @anonymous

    If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.
     
    Tell that to the Hindus.
    , @unpc downunder
    I'm sure most Islamic terrorists would like to see the West conquered by Islam, but I doubt that is the primary reason for most Islamic terrorist attacks. The main goal is to divide the West and undermine support for Israel, and the policy is working quite well.

    In attacking non-interventionist Western countries like Spain, Belgium, Finland and Germany, Islamic terrorists are further stoking up European hostility to the US and Israel. That's why Israel (as opposed to the clueless Jewish diaspora) is worried about Islamic immigration into Europe. More Muslims in Europe equals more terrorist attacks, equals increasing hostility to Israel.

    , @L Woods
    Freudian slip?
  57. Kaz says:
    @David
    One hundred plus years ago, our society inoculated itself against these problems. From an 1898 American Book Company elementary geography textbook:

    For a time the United States allowed the Chinese to come here; but so many of them were brought across the Pacific that our people became afraid that they would do all the work. It cost them so little to live that they could work much more cheaply than white men, and China has so many people that millions might come away and not be missed. And then, the Chinese who came did not seem to adopt our ways; and hence the government has concluded that, since they are not likely to make desirable citizens, no more Chinese can come into the country.
     

    Chinese not adopting our ways?

    Probably because they didn’t let them..

    Here are some Chinese people that have had roots in America likely longer than most commentators on this site..

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  58. unit472 says:

    Islamic migrants are not a problem if you work in a 50 story Manhattan Tower as long as there are taller buildings around you.

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  59. Another 13 killed in Barcelona. Yawn, ho-hum. The Spaniards have a precedent for dealing with Muslims and (((you know whom))) – Queen Isabella, 1492, ring any church bells?

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn’t it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries?

    You raise a good point. Terrorism isn’t commanded by Islam and Mohammed. Terrorism is just a tactic. What Mohammed and the Koran preach is war, conquest and world domination. Dr. Bill Warner illustrates a timeline of the hundreds of battles over the hundreds of years of Muslim Conquest in this short video:

    Obviously, terrorism wouldn’t have worked back then. Massive, relentless, continuous war over over hundreds of years was the only way to practice Islamic jihad.

    Think of it this way: if a lone Muslim “terrorist”dashed off a ship in Catholic Genoa in 800 AD and started stabbing white women shouting “Allahu akbar”, he would have been killed on the spot.

    When a second or third Muslim “terrorist” repeated this “terrorist” process in the following days, weeks, and months, the Genoese would have done the healthy, normal, logical thing and just exterminated everyone with a turban (and their families, too, one would hope).

    So you are correct. Terrorism is not an integral part of Islam. It is merely a tactic that is useful when practicing jihad in white liberal societies weakened by the Enlightenment, individualism and the separation of church and state.

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    • Agree: Anonym
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    There was the Assassin cult, which was terroristic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins
  61. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lot
    "whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedom."

    No, they want to conquer us. If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.

    If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.

    Tell that to the Hindus.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    You are right this is unlikely to be the case now.

    The most recent Muslim conquest was of northern Iraq's majority Christian areas. It was exceptionally brutal.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.
  62. Wilkey says:

    Should we arm governments with extraordinary powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants? Should we accept an element of threat as the price for our freedoms?

    Holy trainloads of cow manure, Batman!

    What’s this talk of immigration and our freedoms? As people who are already citizens, “our” freedoms are at best mildly related to the rights of non-citizens to move here. To the extent that they are it is mostly the desire of citizens of very, very recent vintage to bring spouses and other family members here. Only a small subset of those potential immigrants – those coming from Islamic countries – pose a terrorist threat.

    Furthermore, the government has used the threat of terrorism – almost entirely the result of immigration – as a justification to restrict the freedom of all citizens and to turn the US into a surveillance state. Restricting immigration would increase our freedom, not decrease it.

    But no one expects the establishment to tell the truth anymore, so the fact that the Times is lying its ass off comes as no great bog surprise.

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  63. Beckow says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda of militant Islam,
     
    Yet Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have no issues with militant Islam. What a mystery indeed.

    The Central European countries are normal and normalcy is the surest defense. They have not gone through the post-modernist transition into absurdity as most of the West.

    The Westerners are stuck – they can’t admit that the last few decades have been a huge mistake, but they also instinctively don’t want to go down with the ship. An ugly dilemma. As always people do what is easiest: most try to live out their lives hoping that they will be gone before the real sh..t starts. Others try to spread the misery by pressuring Central Europe to join the madness. Avoidance and schadenfreude will buy some time, but at the end this will be a catastrophe.

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  64. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Back to 24/7 Charlottesville!
     
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wolf-blitzer-wonders-if-barcelona-terror-attack-was-a-charlottesville-copycat/article/2631858

    Wolf Blitzer wonders if Barcelona terror attack was a Charlottesville 'copycat'
     

    This is reaching whole new levels of having your head up the behind.

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  65. @eah
    Back to 24/7 Charlottesville!

    https://twitter.com/notjayfivekille/status/898710885056880640

    Pensacola Christian College is not even accredited, it is a joke of a school so I’m not sure how this guy could be harming their reputation in any way.

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  66. anon says: • Disclaimer

    There are always many questions after a terrorist attack, some never to be answered.

    This reminds me. Did they ever figure out what motivated Omar Mateen? I remember them spending weeks poring over all of his comments about killing people for Allah, but the last I knew, they still hadn’t figured out what they meant.

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  67. @TheJester
    Headline

    Farage claims ‘direct link between immigration & terrorism,’ despite evidence to contrary ...

    Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has blamed immigration and free movement in the European Union for the recent spate of terrorist attacks, just hours after the fatal Barcelona assault on Thursday. UN research, however, warns against imposing controls.

    ... A UN report, however, argues the kind of restrictive migration policies Farage wants to tackle terrorist activity may in fact lead to the opposite outcome.

    “While there is no evidence that migration leads to increased terrorist activity, migration policies that are restrictive or that violate human rights may in fact create conditions conducive to terrorism,” Ben Emmerson, the special rapporteur on counter-terrorism and human rights, told the UN General Assembly in New York last year.
     
    https://www.rt.com/uk/400123-farage-link-immigration-terrorism/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    There you have it. According to the UN, there is no link between inviting Muslim immigrants into your country and Islamic terrorism. Indeed, it's a Catch-22: Restrict Islamic immigration and the terrorism may get worse ... just in case someone was of a mind to try to do so.

    I'm confused. It seems that the whole problem started with the presence of Muslims in large numbers within the contiguous borders of the Western countries in the European Union. Eastern countries such as Poland and Hungary refused to admit Muslim immigrants. They have yet to experience a Muslim terrorist attack.

    In spite of the UN, it should be obvious that terrorists cannot carry out terror attacks within a country unless they have a physical presence within the country. Let's call this the First Principle of Terrorism ... physical presence.

    Farage claims ‘direct link between immigration & terrorism,’ despite evidence to contrary …

    Evidence to the contrary? Did Charles Dodgson write the headline?

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  68. “One does not achieve this level of stupid as a lowly amateur; you can only ascend this Everest of stupid with professional Sherpas.”

    — Posttenuretourettes (high quality / low volume Sailerite blog)

    http://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/06/03/mount-stupid/

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    • Replies: @PTT
    Thanks for the plug, and a brief reaction:
    https://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/08/20/is-ptt-a-sailerite-blog/
  69. @bomag

    ...we who live in societies that celebrate tolerance and freedom
     
    An ironic line, but I suppose they celebrate tolerance and freedom while not letting bad-thinkers have any.

    You have to love and accept everybody, except those who don’t.
    The idiot left live in a strange world.

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  70. Rod1963 says:

    The NYT cretins are merely pissed that what happened in Charlotsville has been eclipsed. The BLM does the same thing when something takes the air out their sails.

    The Left especially those that call the shots don’t care about people, it really doesn’t. Most are either lunatics or suicidal given what they believe in. They are willing to see any number of people murdered if it furthers their agenda. Hence they’re willingness to throw gays and lesbians and females into the pit for Muzzies to smash.

    Hence their enthusiasm to push whites so hard they have no choice but fight back not with sticks but with guns.

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  71. @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    IMO there has always been a terrorist tendenccy in Islam.

    In the early days of Islam there were the Ghazi warriors who raided and spread terror among Christian communities on the borders of Islam

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    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    If you to see terrorism, read the Old Testament. The history of a really vile bunch of fucks.
  72. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Should we arm governments with extraordinary [emphasis mine] powers to surveil, investigate and block immigrants?

    Those powers aren’t extraordinary, in fact they’re actually the uh … you know, that thingy that legislatures do … and the executive executes … the LAW, that’s it.

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  73. @for-the-record
    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    In the first place, the threat was to launch missiles into the sea near Guam, not to "nuke" Guam. Moreover, the US has threatened to attack North Korea multiple times, so turn around is fair play, it seems to me. Also, it should be kept in mind that the US was the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Korean peninsula, in clear violation of the Korean Armistice Agreement [paragraph 13(d)]. North Korea has offered on numerous occasions to give up its nuclear program, in return for a pledge of non-aggression from the US, and the ceasing of aggressive military manuevers, but the US in its wisdom has refused all such overtures.

    Cool story, bro.

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  74. @Jon Halpenny
    IMO there has always been a terrorist tendenccy in Islam.

    In the early days of Islam there were the Ghazi warriors who raided and spread terror among Christian communities on the borders of Islam

    If you to see terrorism, read the Old Testament. The history of a really vile bunch of fucks.

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  75. Lot says:
    @anonymous

    If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.
     
    Tell that to the Hindus.

    You are right this is unlikely to be the case now.

    The most recent Muslim conquest was of northern Iraq’s majority Christian areas. It was exceptionally brutal.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.

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    • Replies: @anonymous

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.
     
    The islamic conquest of India is controversial. Some accounts claim that upwards of 80 million Hindus died as a result. However, this is not a widely agreed upon figure. But I would not be surprised if the muslim conquest took more lives than the British conquest of India.

    And in the end the British backed down to the peaceful, nonviolent Indian protests.

    I am sure that strategy would have failed if the Brits were mongols under Gengis Khan. But I also doubt muslims would have been deterred by nonviolence.
    , @AM

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.
     
    No, it's not. It's never that. They just run out of weapons and rage and need to rest for a while.

    Every. single. time. someone tries to soft petal Islam it turns out to be wrong.

    Is America fighting pirates during Jefferson era? Oh, they were Muslims. Who burned the library at Alexandria? Oh, they were Muslims. It's possible that Muslims sped up the collapse of the Western Roman empire by conquering Egypt and refusing to trade grain. The enlightened Turkish empire (no hijabs for women!) stole and made enuch of Christian boys for hundreds of years. Islam's golden era was work mostly done by Eastern Christians who would eventually convert or flee after being worn down by dmmittude.

    Islam sucks, to understate in the extreme. The more I learn, the more depressing the whole picture is.

  76. @for-the-record
    When the NORK nut job threatened to nuke Guam, a deranged Black congressman blamed President Trump for egging the NORK nut job on.

    In the first place, the threat was to launch missiles into the sea near Guam, not to "nuke" Guam. Moreover, the US has threatened to attack North Korea multiple times, so turn around is fair play, it seems to me. Also, it should be kept in mind that the US was the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Korean peninsula, in clear violation of the Korean Armistice Agreement [paragraph 13(d)]. North Korea has offered on numerous occasions to give up its nuclear program, in return for a pledge of non-aggression from the US, and the ceasing of aggressive military manuevers, but the US in its wisdom has refused all such overtures.

    I don’t know where to begin. Perhaps I should mention just one thing. When President Bill Clinton came to an agreement with North Korea more than twenty years ago, didn’t that “peace” agreement foreclose on the possibility that the nuclear plant, which the United States wound up giving North Korea, would not be used to refine and enrich uranium for the ultimate goal of making weapons-grade material for nukes? I seem to recall that North Korea refused to allow UN weapons inspectors access to this new nuclear plant about ten years after Clinton’s highly touted agreement with North Korea was put into effect. Shortly after kicking the UN inspectors out, North Korea detonated its first nuclear bomb in flagrant violation of President Clinton’s “peace” agreement with North Korea.

    And another thing : bombing the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs rather than ICBMs with nuclear-tipped warheads can hardly be called a peaceful act.

    Oh, those krazy kids from North Korea. When they say they’re going to lob an ICBM or two at your coastline, they’re just trying to get your attention! They mean no harm!

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    With regard to the statement that North Korea had threatened to " bomb[ing] the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs" (a slight refinement of your earlier claim that North Korea had threatened to "nuke" Guam), as my initial comment indicated it would appear that this was not what was actually threatened:

    Last week a threat from North Korea to fire missiles into the sea near Guam led to a spike in war rhetoric from both the US and the North, and put the tiny island territory squarely at the centre of the world's attention.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40957419
     
    With regard to the other specific issues you raised, most of these were addressed in a recent article by Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell:

    Whatever the intricacies underlying this congressional opposition, by the late 1990s the United States was not living up to its side of the AF. There also emerged a dilatory process of financial support by consortium members, which angered North Korea. The fuel oil under the HFO program was delivered late and in serial amounts rather than in quantities and at times tacitly agreed. Construction of the concrete foundations for the first two LWRs was behind schedule. Though other consortium members (South Korea, Japan, Australia, and the European Atomic Energy Community) generally were providing the appropriate funding (though tardily), the U.S. was not.

    We’ll probably never know whether the North Koreans decided on a hedging strategy before the AF was inked or if they only decided to construct an alternative path to a nuclear weapon after they saw the tardy financial process, experienced the U.S. reneging on elements of the bargain, and read in U.S. newspapers strong statements opposed to the AF by congressional Republicans and their media mouthpieces.

    It’s an important question, but one CIA analyst told me in 2002 that it likely would never be answered. While some inside and outside the U.S. intelligence community insist they know the Koreans never intended to live up to the agreement, I have been able to study the intelligence data thoroughly, and there is no definitive evidence one way or the other.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/north-korea-crisis-paved-by-clinton-era-pols-gop-naysayers/
     
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I bow to no one in my disdain for Bill Clinton, but it was the America hater POS Jimmy Carter who went to NK and negotiated a deal that Clinton had no choice but to accept.
  77. IBC says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare “Islamic” attacks

    And which version of Islam do you recommend? Sectarian violence has plagued Islam since the death of Muhammad himself. And globally, the majority of Islamic terrorism is sectarian-based and kills far more Muslims than anyone else. With the growing number and diversity of Muslims in Western countries, how long before the West opens up as just another front in the feud?

    So with that possibility in mind, is it time for you and “your partner” to think of contingency plans? Maybe something sexual involving “white women” birthing righteous armies of swarthy little gay rights jihadis, unified in their struggle against “Nazis” and white supremacists? And what about when that last little rag of white polo shirt can no longer absorb anymore brown shoe polish? Do electric vehicles still qualify as zero emissions when they’re used as car bombs? Time for the circular firing squad?

    Instead of fantasizing about effecting radical Western demographic change, you should be thinking about ways that Muslims can fix the countries where most of them already live: e.g. how they can reconcile traditional cultures with modernization, promote pragmatic and accountable governments, get along with local non-Muslim groups; and of course, how they can stop perpetually fighting the Islamic version of the Hundred Years’ War. And if you (or we) don’t have the cure, at least do no harm; that is, don’t support Democrats or Republicans who against all experience, still blindly advocate for “regime change” in the Middle East.

    Given the subject’s track history, non-Muslim advocacy for ever greater immigration from Islamic countries, would seem to be more about idealistic fantasies and political calculations rather than explicitly helping Muslims. A more mutually pragmatic if less exciting approach would be more along the lines of “meeting people where they are,” i.e. respecting reasonable Muslim and non-Muslim sensibilities and facilitating the peaceful and prosperous development of societies where Islam is already the default mainstream culture: In other words, actually caring about the greater number of people and seeing the long-term big picture. Some of your comments are amusing and can be useful as an ideological foil to some of the more extreme sentiments from other commenters. But if taken seriously though, a lot of what you say actually doesn’t come across as particularly liberal in spirit. The sentiments are more along the lines of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and that’s an old philosophy that’s probably created as many problems as it’s solved. So if your stated wishes come true and your persona is based in reality, I’ll just say that I hope that you and your partner are cat people…

    For all the Tiny Ducks and militant white supremacists alike out there –be careful what you wish for!

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  78. Rod1963 says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    But the hard truth is that there is no sure defense against young men filled with resentment and fired up with the lethal propaganda of militant Islam,
     
    Yet Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have no issues with militant Islam. What a mystery indeed.

    You know if a brand of cars would randomly blow up, decapitate people, or suddenly start up and run over pedestrians. It would banned the ones on the road scrapped. There would be debate, it would just happen.

    Yet our solution is to bring in more of them. Then act surprised when these imports go on a bloody rampage.

    A clear indication that our leaders are either insane or truly stupid. Probably both.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    A clear indication that our leaders are either insane or truly stupid. Probably both.

    There's a third possibility: they hate us and enjoy watching us suffer. What does power mean but the ability to make other people suffer? as O'Brien told Winston Smith.
  79. Tiny Duck says:
    @IBC

    That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare “Islamic” attacks
     
    And which version of Islam do you recommend? Sectarian violence has plagued Islam since the death of Muhammad himself. And globally, the majority of Islamic terrorism is sectarian-based and kills far more Muslims than anyone else. With the growing number and diversity of Muslims in Western countries, how long before the West opens up as just another front in the feud?

    So with that possibility in mind, is it time for you and "your partner" to think of contingency plans? Maybe something sexual involving "white women" birthing righteous armies of swarthy little gay rights jihadis, unified in their struggle against "Nazis" and white supremacists? And what about when that last little rag of white polo shirt can no longer absorb anymore brown shoe polish? Do electric vehicles still qualify as zero emissions when they're used as car bombs? Time for the circular firing squad?

    Instead of fantasizing about effecting radical Western demographic change, you should be thinking about ways that Muslims can fix the countries where most of them already live: e.g. how they can reconcile traditional cultures with modernization, promote pragmatic and accountable governments, get along with local non-Muslim groups; and of course, how they can stop perpetually fighting the Islamic version of the Hundred Years' War. And if you (or we) don't have the cure, at least do no harm; that is, don't support Democrats or Republicans who against all experience, still blindly advocate for "regime change" in the Middle East.

    Given the subject's track history, non-Muslim advocacy for ever greater immigration from Islamic countries, would seem to be more about idealistic fantasies and political calculations rather than explicitly helping Muslims. A more mutually pragmatic if less exciting approach would be more along the lines of "meeting people where they are," i.e. respecting reasonable Muslim and non-Muslim sensibilities and facilitating the peaceful and prosperous development of societies where Islam is already the default mainstream culture: In other words, actually caring about the greater number of people and seeing the long-term big picture. Some of your comments are amusing and can be useful as an ideological foil to some of the more extreme sentiments from other commenters. But if taken seriously though, a lot of what you say actually doesn't come across as particularly liberal in spirit. The sentiments are more along the lines of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," and that's an old philosophy that's probably created as many problems as it's solved. So if your stated wishes come true and your persona is based in reality, I'll just say that I hope that you and your partner are cat people...

    For all the Tiny Ducks and militant white supremacists alike out there --be careful what you wish for!

    You obviously don’t know any Muslims

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  80. @Elsewhere

    I couldn’t help wishing that the real me was somewhere else and that I could have a robot or two of me to take my place with the real flesh & blood female winners I happened to find myself escorting at the time (maybe these women were actually Lois Lane robots and that the real Lois Lane was out somewhere else!?).
     
    This is the plot of the short story "Marionettes, Iwww.unz.comdbury, which I first read about here.

    Thanks for the info. This plot appears to be a very short story (less than 8 pages long) from Ray Bradbury’s “The Illustrated Man,” first published in 1951. This very short story, in Bradbury’s collection, is entitled “Marionettes, Inc.” The DC comic, which I read and which impressed me so much, came out about 15 years after “The Illustrated Man.” It looks like DC stole Bradbury’s plot, lock, stock, and barrel – – – although the plot itself probably dates from Mary Shelley’s “Frankenstein.” You know, mankind’s fabrications or creations turning on the creators or the masters and that the things we create can often take on a mind or a soul of their own.

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  81. @Lot
    "whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedom."

    No, they want to conquer us. If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.

    I’m sure most Islamic terrorists would like to see the West conquered by Islam, but I doubt that is the primary reason for most Islamic terrorist attacks. The main goal is to divide the West and undermine support for Israel, and the policy is working quite well.

    In attacking non-interventionist Western countries like Spain, Belgium, Finland and Germany, Islamic terrorists are further stoking up European hostility to the US and Israel. That’s why Israel (as opposed to the clueless Jewish diaspora) is worried about Islamic immigration into Europe. More Muslims in Europe equals more terrorist attacks, equals increasing hostility to Israel.

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  82. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    Awesome stupidity and ignorance, or awesome trollery? We may never know the true story of Tiny Duck.

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  83. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lot
    You are right this is unlikely to be the case now.

    The most recent Muslim conquest was of northern Iraq's majority Christian areas. It was exceptionally brutal.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.

    The islamic conquest of India is controversial. Some accounts claim that upwards of 80 million Hindus died as a result. However, this is not a widely agreed upon figure. But I would not be surprised if the muslim conquest took more lives than the British conquest of India.

    And in the end the British backed down to the peaceful, nonviolent Indian protests.

    I am sure that strategy would have failed if the Brits were mongols under Gengis Khan. But I also doubt muslims would have been deterred by nonviolence.

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  84. MBlanc46 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Islam started at the beginning of the 7th century.
    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn't it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries? I'd imagine that terrorism might have more to do with the period since the first World War, when the Europeans, who had colonized much of the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century, completed the takeover with the territories of Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. This is intended to push back against the idea that Islam in itself breeds terrorism, but, of course, none of this excuses what happened in Barcelona, nor any other terrorist act. We have to remember that white supremacy and white privilege are the real threats. That is why increased immigration and promotion of Islam as a unifying faith are what will put a stop to rare "Islamic" attacks

    Okay, I finally get it. This is satire. Nicely done.

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  85. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It must be strange to a ‘migrant’ in Europe.

    Power feels contempt for the Weak.

    And ‘migrants’, from masculine culture, feels contempt for wussy pansy cucky Europeans.

    But there is another layer to this frustration. The wussy, pansy, cucky Europeans have all the power, wealth, and privilege that is lacking in the land from which ‘migrants’ came.

    It all seems so weird and unjust. The cucky whites who are surrendering to ‘migrants’ have more money and power than the ‘migrants’ and their ilk.

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  86. Lagertha says:
    @A Finn
    Finland's Prime Minister Juha Sipilä just said in a press conference that this issue affects all European countries. Funny, I don't remember seeing this in countries like Poland or Estonia or other Eastern European countries that don't take in lots of Muslim immigrants.

    And yes, there's just massive frontlash by the liberal media, politicians and talking heads ("terrorism experts"). Muslims are the real victims here, because of all the backlash against them. Hate-filled racists are the real problem. That's pretty much all they talk about. And some of the people fighting off the attacker were immigrants, so they're of course pushing that narrative strongly. We can all become terrorist victims together, how beautiful.

    I remember that Steve long held a false view of Finland, that we were like Japan when it comes to immigration, that our politicians were sensible. That may have been true up until the 1990s. We just got a somewhat late start to this compared to our Western neighbors.

    I caused a stir this year when I said on social media that my grandfathers fought for nothing in both 1917 and WW2 for Finland! This was in relation to events planned for the 100th anniversary. I gained a lot of “friends” which was unexpected. I deleted my post even though, no one, absolutely no one had the guts to troll me.

    At some military events honoring the 100th year independence, I repeated my feelings, and, sadly, it resonated with some attendees. I really feel that Finland has gone Bolshevik/Cultural Marxist in a big way since joining the dreadful EU – people are really PsyOpsed by Sipila, Stubb, Merkel, etc. What a loss! I am truly ashamed of the Finnish people, well most, because in their utter complacency, they take their independence for granted, whine about income inequality, taxes, yet don’t understand that free stuff is not free, and, that these immigrants that don’t intend on assimilating, are a tax burden on them, not to mention the high amount of rapes by Muslim men, even of children in Finland. Finland is not as bad as Sweden, but they are pretty pathetic. Sort of glad my parents emigrated to the states…but, yeah, the sacrifice of almost a generation of men in 1939-40 was such a waste on an ungrateful, lazy, intellectually challenged public today.

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  87. Moshe says:
    @David
    One hundred plus years ago, our society inoculated itself against these problems. From an 1898 American Book Company elementary geography textbook:

    For a time the United States allowed the Chinese to come here; but so many of them were brought across the Pacific that our people became afraid that they would do all the work. It cost them so little to live that they could work much more cheaply than white men, and China has so many people that millions might come away and not be missed. And then, the Chinese who came did not seem to adopt our ways; and hence the government has concluded that, since they are not likely to make desirable citizens, no more Chinese can come into the country.
     

    I wish people would source their quotes!!

    I found the source, it’s here:

    https://archive.org/details/carpentersgeogra00carp

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  88. Bleuteaux says:
    @eah
    Speaking of the Establishment...

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/898880174510317568

    They’ll never pay taxes, obviously.

    But if we think of this in terms of the bloodlust for higher GDP, more immigrants means more housing stock, infrastructure spending, education spending. All of that could continue to drive up the stock market. Paid for indirectly by higher prices for everything by the taxpaying public. I’d prefer a system collapse, to the point where boomers living on SS and pensions are forced to majorly downsize, myself.

    After we look like a nationwide favella, we’ll get a collapse. Sooner or later.

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  89. L Woods says:
    @Lot
    "whose very purpose is to make us turn against these rights and freedom."

    No, they want to conquer us. If anything, Islamic conquerors are relatively gentile toward letting their dhimmis keep their traditions.

    Freudian slip?

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  90. @Detective Club
    I don't know where to begin. Perhaps I should mention just one thing. When President Bill Clinton came to an agreement with North Korea more than twenty years ago, didn't that "peace" agreement foreclose on the possibility that the nuclear plant, which the United States wound up giving North Korea, would not be used to refine and enrich uranium for the ultimate goal of making weapons-grade material for nukes? I seem to recall that North Korea refused to allow UN weapons inspectors access to this new nuclear plant about ten years after Clinton's highly touted agreement with North Korea was put into effect. Shortly after kicking the UN inspectors out, North Korea detonated its first nuclear bomb in flagrant violation of President Clinton's "peace" agreement with North Korea.

    And another thing : bombing the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs rather than ICBMs with nuclear-tipped warheads can hardly be called a peaceful act.

    Oh, those krazy kids from North Korea. When they say they're going to lob an ICBM or two at your coastline, they're just trying to get your attention! They mean no harm!

    With regard to the statement that North Korea had threatened to ” bomb[ing] the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs” (a slight refinement of your earlier claim that North Korea had threatened to “nuke” Guam), as my initial comment indicated it would appear that this was not what was actually threatened:

    Last week a threat from North Korea to fire missiles into the sea near Guam led to a spike in war rhetoric from both the US and the North, and put the tiny island territory squarely at the centre of the world’s attention.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40957419

    With regard to the other specific issues you raised, most of these were addressed in a recent article by Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell:

    Whatever the intricacies underlying this congressional opposition, by the late 1990s the United States was not living up to its side of the AF. There also emerged a dilatory process of financial support by consortium members, which angered North Korea. The fuel oil under the HFO program was delivered late and in serial amounts rather than in quantities and at times tacitly agreed. Construction of the concrete foundations for the first two LWRs was behind schedule. Though other consortium members (South Korea, Japan, Australia, and the European Atomic Energy Community) generally were providing the appropriate funding (though tardily), the U.S. was not.

    We’ll probably never know whether the North Koreans decided on a hedging strategy before the AF was inked or if they only decided to construct an alternative path to a nuclear weapon after they saw the tardy financial process, experienced the U.S. reneging on elements of the bargain, and read in U.S. newspapers strong statements opposed to the AF by congressional Republicans and their media mouthpieces.

    It’s an important question, but one CIA analyst told me in 2002 that it likely would never be answered. While some inside and outside the U.S. intelligence community insist they know the Koreans never intended to live up to the agreement, I have been able to study the intelligence data thoroughly, and there is no definitive evidence one way or the other.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/north-korea-crisis-paved-by-clinton-era-pols-gop-naysayers/

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    When in doubt, always seek aid & comfort in the arms of a thoroughgoing scalawag >>>

    Wikipedia sez : . . . In a 2006 interview Wilkerson said that the speech Powell made before the United Nations on February 5, 2003—which laid out a case for war with Iraq—included falsehoods of which Powell had never been made aware. He said, "My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. I participated in a hoax on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council."[7] Wilkerson said in 2011 that his preparing of the presentation was "probably the biggest mistake of my life", he regrets it, and that he regrets not resigning over it.
  91. @A Finn
    Finland's Prime Minister Juha Sipilä just said in a press conference that this issue affects all European countries. Funny, I don't remember seeing this in countries like Poland or Estonia or other Eastern European countries that don't take in lots of Muslim immigrants.

    And yes, there's just massive frontlash by the liberal media, politicians and talking heads ("terrorism experts"). Muslims are the real victims here, because of all the backlash against them. Hate-filled racists are the real problem. That's pretty much all they talk about. And some of the people fighting off the attacker were immigrants, so they're of course pushing that narrative strongly. We can all become terrorist victims together, how beautiful.

    I remember that Steve long held a false view of Finland, that we were like Japan when it comes to immigration, that our politicians were sensible. That may have been true up until the 1990s. We just got a somewhat late start to this compared to our Western neighbors.

    Muslims are the real victims here

    Winston Moseley, who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death, explained that he was the real victim of the crime at his first parole hearing. saying, “For a victim outside, it’s a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”

    I found that an interesting insight into the mentality of a psychopathic killer.

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    that is still the defense-lawyers tactic.
    , @Ivy

    but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”
     
    One interpretation: living out one's days hounded by public opprobrium, no mention of guilt or remorse.

    Another interpretation: unintentional recognition of eternal damnation.
  92. @Anonymous

    If terrorism were some innate part of the faith, wouldn’t it have been prevalent in Europe and elsewhere all these centuries?

     

    You raise a good point. Terrorism isn't commanded by Islam and Mohammed. Terrorism is just a tactic. What Mohammed and the Koran preach is war, conquest and world domination. Dr. Bill Warner illustrates a timeline of the hundreds of battles over the hundreds of years of Muslim Conquest in this short video:

    https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y?t=695

    Obviously, terrorism wouldn't have worked back then. Massive, relentless, continuous war over over hundreds of years was the only way to practice Islamic jihad.

    Think of it this way: if a lone Muslim "terrorist"dashed off a ship in Catholic Genoa in 800 AD and started stabbing white women shouting "Allahu akbar", he would have been killed on the spot.

    When a second or third Muslim "terrorist" repeated this "terrorist" process in the following days, weeks, and months, the Genoese would have done the healthy, normal, logical thing and just exterminated everyone with a turban (and their families, too, one would hope).

    So you are correct. Terrorism is not an integral part of Islam. It is merely a tactic that is useful when practicing jihad in white liberal societies weakened by the Enlightenment, individualism and the separation of church and state.

    There was the Assassin cult, which was terroristic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

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  93. @Rod1963
    You know if a brand of cars would randomly blow up, decapitate people, or suddenly start up and run over pedestrians. It would banned the ones on the road scrapped. There would be debate, it would just happen.

    Yet our solution is to bring in more of them. Then act surprised when these imports go on a bloody rampage.

    A clear indication that our leaders are either insane or truly stupid. Probably both.

    A clear indication that our leaders are either insane or truly stupid. Probably both.

    There’s a third possibility: they hate us and enjoy watching us suffer. What does power mean but the ability to make other people suffer? as O’Brien told Winston Smith.

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  94. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    TL;DR: Local police/politicians/media/(left-wing organizers) signalled open borders/refugees welcome/(tourists not welcome), ignored terrorism warnings, declared Barcelona a sanctuary city, and paid jihad-seekers’ allowance to failed Sagrada Familia bomb plotters (what actually happened was terrorists’ Plan B).

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  95. Lagertha says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Muslims are the real victims here

    Winston Moseley, who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death, explained that he was the real victim of the crime at his first parole hearing. saying, "For a victim outside, it's a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who's caught, it's forever."

    I found that an interesting insight into the mentality of a psychopathic killer.

    that is still the defense-lawyers tactic.

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  96. PTT says: • Website
    @academic gossip
    "One does not achieve this level of stupid as a lowly amateur; you can only ascend this Everest of stupid with professional Sherpas."

    --- Posttenuretourettes (high quality / low volume Sailerite blog)

    http://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/06/03/mount-stupid/

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    I added a comment there explaining why your blog is "Sailerite". While we're on the subject let me promote here your recent insight on SPLC:

    Let the following [variant of Godwin's Law] henceforth be known as the PTT diktat:

    As soon as someone being accused of bigotry has his SPLC file adduced as evidence, we declare him not guilty on the spot.
     

    https://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/godwins-law-and-the-ptt-diktat/

    And since you mentioned Bret Stephens, here's the Alt Rabbi forcefully agreeing:

    https://twitter.com/AltRabinowitz/status/876463234995322885

  97. Ivy says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Muslims are the real victims here

    Winston Moseley, who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death, explained that he was the real victim of the crime at his first parole hearing. saying, "For a victim outside, it's a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who's caught, it's forever."

    I found that an interesting insight into the mentality of a psychopathic killer.

    but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”

    One interpretation: living out one’s days hounded by public opprobrium, no mention of guilt or remorse.

    Another interpretation: unintentional recognition of eternal damnation.

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    I see it as, "She had it bad for a few minutes and it's over. So why do I gotta have it bad year after year in jail and its never over? I'm the real victim here."
  98. @Ivy

    but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”
     
    One interpretation: living out one's days hounded by public opprobrium, no mention of guilt or remorse.

    Another interpretation: unintentional recognition of eternal damnation.

    I see it as, “She had it bad for a few minutes and it’s over. So why do I gotta have it bad year after year in jail and its never over? I’m the real victim here.”

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  99. eah says:
    @eah
    Speaking of immigrants paying pensions...France.

    https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/898923978198331393

    Just to clean this up — sometimes the comment SW here does not work as expected/as it usually does.

    Here is the tweet — and below is the foto accompanying the tweet:

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  100. @for-the-record
    With regard to the statement that North Korea had threatened to " bomb[ing] the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs" (a slight refinement of your earlier claim that North Korea had threatened to "nuke" Guam), as my initial comment indicated it would appear that this was not what was actually threatened:

    Last week a threat from North Korea to fire missiles into the sea near Guam led to a spike in war rhetoric from both the US and the North, and put the tiny island territory squarely at the centre of the world's attention.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40957419
     
    With regard to the other specific issues you raised, most of these were addressed in a recent article by Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell:

    Whatever the intricacies underlying this congressional opposition, by the late 1990s the United States was not living up to its side of the AF. There also emerged a dilatory process of financial support by consortium members, which angered North Korea. The fuel oil under the HFO program was delivered late and in serial amounts rather than in quantities and at times tacitly agreed. Construction of the concrete foundations for the first two LWRs was behind schedule. Though other consortium members (South Korea, Japan, Australia, and the European Atomic Energy Community) generally were providing the appropriate funding (though tardily), the U.S. was not.

    We’ll probably never know whether the North Koreans decided on a hedging strategy before the AF was inked or if they only decided to construct an alternative path to a nuclear weapon after they saw the tardy financial process, experienced the U.S. reneging on elements of the bargain, and read in U.S. newspapers strong statements opposed to the AF by congressional Republicans and their media mouthpieces.

    It’s an important question, but one CIA analyst told me in 2002 that it likely would never be answered. While some inside and outside the U.S. intelligence community insist they know the Koreans never intended to live up to the agreement, I have been able to study the intelligence data thoroughly, and there is no definitive evidence one way or the other.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/north-korea-crisis-paved-by-clinton-era-pols-gop-naysayers/
     

    When in doubt, always seek aid & comfort in the arms of a thoroughgoing scalawag >>>

    Wikipedia sez : . . . In a 2006 interview Wilkerson said that the speech Powell made before the United Nations on February 5, 2003—which laid out a case for war with Iraq—included falsehoods of which Powell had never been made aware. He said, “My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. I participated in a hoax on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council.”[7] Wilkerson said in 2011 that his preparing of the presentation was “probably the biggest mistake of my life”, he regrets it, and that he regrets not resigning over it.

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    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson's policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn't believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don't.

  101. @Detective Club
    When in doubt, always seek aid & comfort in the arms of a thoroughgoing scalawag >>>

    Wikipedia sez : . . . In a 2006 interview Wilkerson said that the speech Powell made before the United Nations on February 5, 2003—which laid out a case for war with Iraq—included falsehoods of which Powell had never been made aware. He said, "My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. I participated in a hoax on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council."[7] Wilkerson said in 2011 that his preparing of the presentation was "probably the biggest mistake of my life", he regrets it, and that he regrets not resigning over it.

    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson’s policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn’t believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don’t.

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    • Replies: @Detective Club
    Just Slightly Off Topic : When Puritan Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell was dying of malaria & kidney stones in 1658, it was said that he refused to see the "best doctor" in London, who was Italian and a devout Roman Catholic. Cromwell would rather die than be touched by a devilish Papist! Now there was an English politician with principles!
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Trump's economic council is resigning in droves, fearing association with Trump's appalling refusal to distinguish between good violent hate groups and bad violent hate groups.
    , @Cwhatfuture
    After 9/11, which was a preventable defeat and unmitigated disaster, no one resigned or was fired or even demoted at the FAA, the NSA, the DoD, the CIA, the DIA, the FBI, the INS, the State Dept. and on and on. No one. Apparently no one in a country that spends more than the next 20 nations combined on defense and intelligence was responsible. Instead every agency received gigantically increased budgets and promotions.
    , @Desiderius
    Bryan, no T.

    You're mixing him up with William Cullen Bryant.

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-cullen-bryant
  102. @Steve Sailer
    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson's policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn't believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don't.

    Just Slightly Off Topic : When Puritan Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell was dying of malaria & kidney stones in 1658, it was said that he refused to see the “best doctor” in London, who was Italian and a devout Roman Catholic. Cromwell would rather die than be touched by a devilish Papist! Now there was an English politician with principles!

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  103. @Steve Sailer
    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson's policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn't believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don't.

    Trump’s economic council is resigning in droves, fearing association with Trump’s appalling refusal to distinguish between good violent hate groups and bad violent hate groups.

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  104. @Steve Sailer
    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson's policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn't believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don't.

    After 9/11, which was a preventable defeat and unmitigated disaster, no one resigned or was fired or even demoted at the FAA, the NSA, the DoD, the CIA, the DIA, the FBI, the INS, the State Dept. and on and on. No one. Apparently no one in a country that spends more than the next 20 nations combined on defense and intelligence was responsible. Instead every agency received gigantically increased budgets and promotions.

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  105. Bubba says:
    @Lugash
    Looks like SBPDL is being purged from the Internet.

    Thanks for that – I said “NFW” when I saw the Google login requirement.

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  106. @PTT
    Thanks for the plug, and a brief reaction:
    https://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/08/20/is-ptt-a-sailerite-blog/

    I added a comment there explaining why your blog is “Sailerite”. While we’re on the subject let me promote here your recent insight on SPLC:

    Let the following [variant of Godwin's Law] henceforth be known as the PTT diktat:

    As soon as someone being accused of bigotry has his SPLC file adduced as evidence, we declare him not guilty on the spot.

    https://posttenuretourettes.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/godwins-law-and-the-ptt-diktat/

    And since you mentioned Bret Stephens, here’s the Alt Rabbi forcefully agreeing:

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  107. @Detective Club
    I don't know where to begin. Perhaps I should mention just one thing. When President Bill Clinton came to an agreement with North Korea more than twenty years ago, didn't that "peace" agreement foreclose on the possibility that the nuclear plant, which the United States wound up giving North Korea, would not be used to refine and enrich uranium for the ultimate goal of making weapons-grade material for nukes? I seem to recall that North Korea refused to allow UN weapons inspectors access to this new nuclear plant about ten years after Clinton's highly touted agreement with North Korea was put into effect. Shortly after kicking the UN inspectors out, North Korea detonated its first nuclear bomb in flagrant violation of President Clinton's "peace" agreement with North Korea.

    And another thing : bombing the coastline of Guam with conventional ICBMs rather than ICBMs with nuclear-tipped warheads can hardly be called a peaceful act.

    Oh, those krazy kids from North Korea. When they say they're going to lob an ICBM or two at your coastline, they're just trying to get your attention! They mean no harm!

    I bow to no one in my disdain for Bill Clinton, but it was the America hater POS Jimmy Carter who went to NK and negotiated a deal that Clinton had no choice but to accept.

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  108. @Steve Sailer
    Does anybody ever resign over anything in American government?

    I think Cyrus Vance resigned over Carter Administration policy regarding Iran. William Jennings Bryant resigned as Secretary of State in 1915 because he foresaw that Woodrow Wilson's policy would lead toward American involvement in the Great War, but we all know Bryant didn't believe in evolution of humans, whereas everybody today does, except that they don't.

    Bryan, no T.

    You’re mixing him up with William Cullen Bryant.

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-cullen-bryant

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  109. AM says:
    @Lot
    You are right this is unlikely to be the case now.

    The most recent Muslim conquest was of northern Iraq's majority Christian areas. It was exceptionally brutal.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.

    Historically, Islamic conquest was often with a light touch. For example, before the British took over, there were a bunch of Muslim ruled parts of India with a mostly unmolested Hindu majority.

    No, it’s not. It’s never that. They just run out of weapons and rage and need to rest for a while.

    Every. single. time. someone tries to soft petal Islam it turns out to be wrong.

    Is America fighting pirates during Jefferson era? Oh, they were Muslims. Who burned the library at Alexandria? Oh, they were Muslims. It’s possible that Muslims sped up the collapse of the Western Roman empire by conquering Egypt and refusing to trade grain. The enlightened Turkish empire (no hijabs for women!) stole and made enuch of Christian boys for hundreds of years. Islam’s golden era was work mostly done by Eastern Christians who would eventually convert or flee after being worn down by dmmittude.

    Islam sucks, to understate in the extreme. The more I learn, the more depressing the whole picture is.

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  110. @Desiderius
    Bryan, no T.

    You're mixing him up with William Cullen Bryant.

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-cullen-bryant

    Right.

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  111. A Finn says:

    By the way, this year we’re celebrating our hundreth birthday as an independent country: http://suomifinland100.fi/info/?lang=en

    Pretty ironic.

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  112. @A Finn
    Finland's Prime Minister Juha Sipilä just said in a press conference that this issue affects all European countries. Funny, I don't remember seeing this in countries like Poland or Estonia or other Eastern European countries that don't take in lots of Muslim immigrants.

    And yes, there's just massive frontlash by the liberal media, politicians and talking heads ("terrorism experts"). Muslims are the real victims here, because of all the backlash against them. Hate-filled racists are the real problem. That's pretty much all they talk about. And some of the people fighting off the attacker were immigrants, so they're of course pushing that narrative strongly. We can all become terrorist victims together, how beautiful.

    I remember that Steve long held a false view of Finland, that we were like Japan when it comes to immigration, that our politicians were sensible. That may have been true up until the 1990s. We just got a somewhat late start to this compared to our Western neighbors.

    You were doomed ever since Nokia was letting people go for not providing positive feedback. I do love the Finnnish(one of my girlfriends was Finnish) but the sheer illogic that drives the policies is amazing.

    My time in the country convinced me that immigration is a secondary disease, a result of socialism causing major dysfunction in economic systems which then requires a fresh influx of workers due to the present wage structure dynamics(among others) having become insanely broken.

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