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After running an AP article previously, the NYT finally weighs in on how the whole story is very boring to everybody except hateful conservatives:

Texas Father Says 7-Year-Old Isn’t Transgender, Igniting a Politicized Outcry

A bitter custody battle grabbed the attention of Gov. Greg Abbott, Senator Ted Cruz and other conservative lawmakers.

By Karen Zraick
Oct. 28, 2019

A bitter custody battle in Dallas that centers on the gender identity of a 7-year-old child provoked an outcry among conservatives this month.

The child’s mother, Anne Georgulas, had honored what she said was the child’s preference to live as a girl and sought to compel the father, Jeffrey Younger, to do the same, according to court documents. But Mr. Younger insisted that the child is a boy and said that Ms. Georgulas was manipulating the child’s identity.

The case attracted major interest after Mr. Younger created an extensive website, posting photos and videos of his children and sitting for interviews with conservative podcasts and news outlets. He raised tens of thousands of dollars in donations, saying that he was fighting forced and irreversible medical procedures, though experts who treat transgender youths disputed that characterization.

In a ruling on Thursday, Judge Kim Cooks in the 255th District Court in Dallas said that the parents should have joint custody and that the state could not require Mr. Younger to treat the child as a girl. She also forbade either parent from speaking to the news media and ordered Mr. Younger to shut down his site. (It appeared to have been taken down on Friday.)

Mr. Younger’s characterization of medical care for children wrestling with gender identity is hotly disputed, and the judge’s ruling noted that Ms. Georgulas had not tried to “surgically or chemically transition the child’s sex,” as alleged.

Yet.

To be precise, the mother wanted

A) to put her 7-year-old son on the usual flight path toward puberty blockers and surgery in several years.

B) to have it legally established that the father had zero ability, now and forever, to put up any roadblocks or even have a say against any steps in this process of turning his son into a quasi-girl.

(The New York Times is withholding the child’s name for privacy reasons.)

Experts say that the best practices for treating prepubescent children who may be transgender are to affirm the child’s choices and afford them the space to explore their identity.

How many of these “experts” don’t make money off this?

“All anybody would be saying at this point is support your kid in the gender they identify with,” said Dr. Michelle Forcier, a professor of pediatrics at the Warren Alpert Medical School at Brown University who specializes in treating gender-diverse patients.

After all, nobody has ever heard of a mother who wishes to treat her son as a girl:

… Conservative outlets like LifeSite News, which calls itself the “No. 1 pro-life news website,” have covered the case in great detail, attracting attention from across the country and putting pressure on state officials to get involved. …

Representative Chip Roy, who represents a district northwest of San Antonio, sent a letter to federal officials calling for a study of “forced medical treatment of gender dysphoria in prepubescent children.” State Representative Matt Krause, whose district includes Fort Worth, suggested that he would introduce a bill to prohibit the use in minors of puberty blockers, which block secondary sex characteristics like breasts and Adam’s apples. …

No medical intervention is recommended before the onset of puberty, he said. Around puberty, hormone blockers to stop secondary sex characteristics from developing may be used. From there, a young person may choose to progress to gender-affirming hormones, and perhaps eventually surgery.

The effects of hormone blockers are reversible, but would most likely have adverse effects on fertility if the patient started taking them at an early age, he said.

We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era. Will we someday look back on the transgender era with the same repulsion?

As discussion of medical interventions for gender-nonconforming youth becomes more common, the related legal debates seem likely to multiply.

A study published this year in the journal Family Court Review looked at 10 cases in the United States in which mothers had taken an “affirming” approach to their transgender or gender-nonconforming child, and then had their custody rights challenged by partners who disagreed with that approach.

All 10 of the women described being blamed by their former partners for “causing” the children to assert transgender identities. Court officials in the cases were frequently unfamiliar with the concept, and some of the mothers lost custody.

The concept of transgender Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome is one that courts and doctors need to become more familiar with.

 
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  1. Whiskey says: • Website

    Flight from White. Freaks and weirdos are honorary non White.

    • Agree: Father O'Hara
    • Replies: @Jake
    , @fnn
  2. Lugash says:

    Texas Father Says 7-Year-Old Isn’t Transgender, Igniting a Politicized Outcry

    There’s your problem right there.

    • Agree: Hail
  3. Anonymous[976] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Diversity. It’s a beautiful thing:

    A FedEx Ground manager and the owners of several Utah trucking companies have been charged in an alleged “pay-to-play” bribery scheme, indictments unsealed Monday show. The trucking company owners are accused of paying upwards of $1 million in bribes over the past decade to 47-year-old Ryan Mower of Bountiful, the highest-ranking FedEx Ground employee in Utah, for more than 10 years. In exchange for the bribes…the trucking companies received hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, which included money for extra routes that should not have been assigned to those companies, falsely reported accidents and additional mileage, and “ghost routes” — trips that were recorded but never actually took place. Mower and nine other defendants named Monday now face between them 51 charges in U.S. District Court…Those five defendants are Yevgeny Felix Tuchinsky, 59, of Salt Lake City and San Diego; Alexsander Vasiliyevich Barsukov, 52, of Salt Lake City; Konstantin Mikhaylovich Tomilin, 50, who has homes in Salt Lake City and Pennsylvania; Leonid Isaakovich Teyf, 58, of Raleigh, N.C.; and Felix Tsipelzon, 48, of South Jordan. Another indictment names Hubert Ivan Ugarte, 52, of Draper, who owned and operated 17 trucking companies. Over a span of eight years, authorities say, Ugarte’s companies received $90 million in FedEx Ground revenue and paid Mower at least $490,000 in bribes.

  4. Scoopy says:

    We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era.

    What the hell’s this “we” crap?

    I advocate for federally funded voluntary sterilization, convicted felons getting time off for sterilization, as well as qualification for food stamps.

    Before anyone pshaw’s me, stop and work out in your imagination how much this country would improve after a few generations, in every way.

  5. Anonymous[976] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Missed three more names:

    Davor Kovacevic and Zlate Balulovski, both 41 and both of West Jordan, took in more than $21 million in FedEx Ground revenue for their multiple trucking companies since 2012, while paying Mower about $165,000 in bribes, a third indictment claims. And William Shayne Murdock, 42, of Providence, is accused of paying Mower at least $50,000 in bribes

  6. A study published this year in the journal Family Court Review looked at 10 cases in the United States in which mothers had taken an “affirming” approach to their transgender or gender-nonconforming child, and then had their custody rights challenged by partners who disagreed with that approach.

    All 10 of the women described being blamed by their former partners for “causing” the children to assert transgender identities. Court officials in the cases were frequently unfamiliar with the concept, and some of the mothers lost custody.

    Roissy pointed out a few years ago already that Western women are in the midst of a massive social-wide mental breakdown. He was right, and this observation was before the Trump era.

    • Agree: fish
  7. Straight from a presstitute whore:
    “…afford them the space to explore…”
    (Their medical hell).
    Thank “Doctor” Michelle
    Who’s forgotten what Medicine’s for.

  8. Liza says:

    Has anyone in authority ever suggested letting the boy (and other mixed-up kids) have their fantasies by humoring them for a few years? Why does anyone have to do anything irreversible (or reversible but with serious side effects). If when they turn 18 they still want to turn into the opposite sex, well, you did your best.

    People just won’t let a non-crisis go to waste, will they.

    Anyway, here’s a writer who has an altogether different viewpoint:

    https://www.thinkinghousewife.com/2019/10/the-boy-who-wont-be-a-girl/

    I wonder how many cases we don’t hear about, because both parents favor permanently changing their child into something it’s not supposed to be.

  9. All 10 of the women described being blamed by their former partners for “causing” the children to assert transgender identities. Court officials in the cases were frequently unfamiliar with the concept, and some of the mothers lost custody.

    To be fair to the court officials, until about 5 minutes ago just about no one was ‘familiar with the concept’ of chemically castrating children and putting them on the path to a lifetime of distress because their mom thinks it would be cute to have a little drag queen for a son.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Anon
  10. Flip says:

    Truly despicable.

  11. This article employs two of the most popular colors from the liberal finger painting pallet:

    1. “… but most experts say”; and

    2. Conservative “outcry” is always illegitimate because, well, they’re conservative. E.g. “An abortion services provider had to complete the procedure ex utero… The far right internet pounced!” “How dare they notice the bad stuff we commit, endorse, and cover up!”

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Hail
    , @El Dato
    , @Kylie
  12. We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era. Will we someday look back on the transgender era with the same repulsion?

    It all reminds me of the lobotomy craze: https://www.npr.org/2005/11/16/5014080/my-lobotomy-howard-dullys-journey

    I think future generations will see it as a similar extraordinarily popular delusion.

  13. Jim Given says:

    It would be enlightening and probably quite rewarding to have an essay on mothers who brought their sons up as daughters.My impression is that this was a 19th century sort of thing, but I have not researched it.

  14. Maybe when this 7 year-old boy grows up he will overcompensate for his mother’s gender dysphoria by proxy by becoming a hyper-masculine alpha male novelist. It worked for Hemingway.

    Apparently, his mother had a fantasy about having twin girls. So until he was five, she would make Ernest wear a dress and pretend to be his sister’s twin.

    http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/ernest-hemingway-his-sister-dressed-as-twin-girls.html

  15. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Even if these women had a daughter, the poor kid would be turned into JonBenet Ramsey. Some women are obsessed with dressing up in a girly-like fashion to the point of barking madness.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  16. Roger says:

    “Experts say that the best practices for treating prepubescent children who may be transgender are to affirm the child’s choices and afford them the space to explore their identity. ”

    I wonder if there is any empirical support for that, or if it is just leftist logic.

    “Court officials in the cases were frequently unfamiliar with the concept, and some of the mothers lost custody.”

    I tried to teach my kid with Vulcan mind melds instead of sending him to school, but the officials were unfamiliar with the concept.

  17. She also forbade either parent from speaking to the news media and ordered Mr. Younger to shut down his site. (It appeared to have been taken down on Friday.)

    I wonder if conservatives will ever take to questioning if maybe family court judges have too much power to trash first amendment freedoms “for the benefit of the child.”

  18. nebulafox says:

    100 years from now, our descendants are going to look upon this with the same disgust that we have today for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment or forced lobotomization. The kid is 7. Not 17. 7.

    God help us all if we were forced to live for life based on the whims we had at seven… and that’s the lesser of two evils.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, Malenfant
    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
    , @Anon
  19. “……….provoked an outcry among conservatives………..”

    That says it all right there. Only “conservatives” could possibly be against these ghastly efforts to be inflicted on …….a seven year old. A SECOND GRADER!

    Ohh sweet meteor of death…..where art thou? Seriously…if this is what the future portends – just end it all now.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  20. @Scoopy

    I advocate for federally funded voluntary sterilization

    In other words, the sterilization is voluntary, but the funding isn’t. So which way are the guns pointed?

    It’s like those Southern senators who were eager to draft white boys in 1917, but we’re horrified at the thought of drafting blacks– and thus giving them military training.

  21. Anon[213] • Disclaimer says:

    He raised tens of thousands of dollars in donations

    Setting up a GoFundMe is standard operating procedure for black victims of hate crimes/hoaxes, but somehow this is never mentioned in articles about them, certainly not in paragraph 3.

    ordered Mr. Younger to shut down his site

    Somehow I have a feeling we’ll be reading about this on the Volokh Conspiracy law web site. They seem to specialize in taking apart judges who issue anti-free speech injunctions.

    Experts say …

    This is very sloppy for the New York Times to not mention the identification of the experts. Normally you get a source to make a statement like this and quote it, which is still sloppy. Better is to quote or paraphrase from some source like the WPATH, a sort of SPLC of transgender medical hokum. Someone needs to do a takedown of the WPATH.

    The NYT Manual of Style and Usage (which seems to be largely ignored these days) has a page on Attribution: “how authoritative?,” “vested interests?,”attributed by name and title” (exceptions listed, including diplomacy, foreign intelligence).

    A slower version of “I’m a Boy” with much clearer lyrics (and a tuba) was on the “Meaty, Beaty, Big & Bouncy” album:

    The effects of hormone blockers are reversible

    This is not true. Why do I keep seeing this? Hormone blockers, according to Wikipedia “prevent the development of biological secondary sex characteristics, … slow the growth of sexual organs, [supress] male features of facial hair, deep voices, and Adam’s apples.” If you go off of hormone blockers at, say, age 25, will your penis get bigger and your voice deepen to what it would have been otherwise, for instance? Will your jaw and forehead and hand size and upper body muscles suddently develop to what they would have been? And Wikipedia lists a slew of possible scary side effects that need more investigation.

    Will we someday look back on the transgender era with the same repulsion?

    And lobotomies.

    The concept of transgender Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome is one that courts and doctors need to become more familiar with.

    Allow me to take credit for the first mention here of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy in connection with this case:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/father-cant-stop-his-ex-wife-from-giving-their-son-puberty-blockers/#comment-3518642

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  22. Rahan says:

    To a great many people the child tranny issue is the crack in the wall that can lead to the whole wall collapsing.

    GloboHomo leftists need to be constantly connected to child trannies, hate crime hoaxes, real crime denial, and anti-white racism.

    When this connection is established in the minds of normies, the rest will follow.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  23. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous

    Nothing to see here – just the usual Mormon suspects!

    • LOL: utu
  24. Mr. Anon says:

    We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era. Will we someday look back on the transgender era with the same repulsion?

    A lot of people have always – from day one – looked on the transgender era with repulsion. It is repellant. Repellant, degenerate, and evil.

  25. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    And eleven long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus!

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  26. (The New York Times is withholding the child’s name for privacy reasons.)

    Though his namesake rode with Jesse James. Likewise, her namesake is a weird Tom Petty song and a weirder Bernardo Bertolucci movie. Good luck with the privacy.

    On another issue involving consent and permanent mutilation of minors, here is a rare instance of common sense coming from a self-described feminist (and they apparently can’t pronounce clitoris in Canada, either):

    • Replies: @syonredux
  27. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    All those Ukrainians enriching us with their fucked up and corrupt ways. Now we have some Ukraine-born Ukrainian-American U.S. Army officer ready to testify that he believes President Trump didn’t act correctly.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467845-read-army-officer-to-tell-investigators-he-twice-reported-concerns-over-trumps

    A high-ranking Army officer and top White House Ukraine expert is expected to tell House investigators Tuesday that he twice raised objections to his superiors about how President Trump and his administration were interacting with Ukraine out of a “sense of duty.”

    A draft of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s opening statement says he became worried when “outside influencers” were spreading a “false narrative” about Ukraine.

    From Wikipedia:

    Alexander Vindman and his twin brother Yevgeny were born in Ukraine. After the death of their mother, they were brought to New York in December 1979 by their father, Semyon (Simon) along with their older brother. They grew up in Brooklyn’s “Little Odessa” neighborhood. The twins and their maternal grandmother were in the Ken Burns film, “The Statue of Liberty (film)”.[1] Vindman speaks fluent Russian and Ukrainian.[2]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman

    Vindman. Jew?

    Our new country’s gonna be great.

  28. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    An update from the actual creators of the Save James website:

    Update from us… the facts and where we go from here!

    Posted by Save James on Sunday, 27 October 2019

    They discuss, among other things, why the father will not be fighting the “gag order”.

    The “official SJW” view of this case strikes me as more obviously EVIL than anything I have seen before. Other SJW positions involve highlighting certain things, while neglecting others, and distorting things, and so on, but there really is no way even to present the basic SJW position on this one in a way that hides the evil without using words while meaning the opposite: “affirm”, “evidence-based”, etc.

    A father is fighting to save his son from SEXUAL MUTILATION and he is depicted as a fanatic, a liar, a huckster, etc. And some of the abuse comes from “dissident right” LARPERS who are presumably uncomfortable when confronted with real human beings.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  29. JimDandy says:

    “The child’s mother, Anne Georgulas, had honored what she said was the child’s preference to live as a girl and sought to compel the father, Jeffrey Younger, to do the same, according to court documents.”

    What a bullshit sentence.

    “had honored what she said was the child’s preference to live as a girl”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  30. Hail says: • Website

    Life timeline for Dr. Anne Geogulas [comment-110];

    Ethnocultural-ancestral portrait of Anne Georgulas [comment-159] — Profiles of all four grandparents (1/4 Greek, 1/4 Slovenian coal miner, 2/4 Appalachia origin);

    – Reflections/commentary: (1) “What caused Anne Georgulas to embrace extreme, castrationist politics?” [comment-96], and (2) Where the Anne Georgulas case fits in the ‘political’ context of the fading of the Gay movement and rise of the Trans movement in the mid 2010s [comment-102].

    • Replies: @Hail
  31. One off-topic, one kinda on- :

    ICE Critics, Minnesota Clergy Want Bishop Henry Whipple’s Name Removed From Minneapolis Federal Building

    Is this a new twist? They want his name taken off not because they don’t like him, but because they do— and disapprove of what goes on inside.

    As for the Dallas case, John Sebastian saw it coming a half-century ago:

  32. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    More of the timeline filled in, per information in the public court documents, including what directly that led to the court proceedings in 2018 and 2019:

    [MORE]

    1999?: Anne Georgulas divorces first husband
    2000: Birth of two girls whom Dr. Anne Georgulas adopts (the time of adoption unclear, presumably early 2000s); both are Mestizo in origin;
    2000s: Jeff Younger and Dr. Anne Georgulas meet at a Texas Orthodox church they both attend;
    2010: Marriage of Jeff Younger and Dr. Anne Georgulas;
    Aug. 2011: Dr. Anne is successfully implanted with a (donor’s) in-vitro fertilized egg;
    May 2012: Birth of twins;
    2015: Separation from husband; the discovery by Anne that one son is a girl also begins around this time, but the exact timing on that is unclear in the court documents;
    Oct. 2016: A court awards Anne Georgulas the “exclusive right…to consent to psychiatric and psychological treatment of the children;”
    Nov. 2016: Order for Annulment of marriage is entered (on grounds of “fraud,” as alleged by Dr. Anne);
    May 2017: Dr. Anne uses sons’ fifth birthday party for son’s “coming out party as a girl,” and the renaming of the child (‘Luna’);
    Aug. 2017: The twins start Kindergarten in Texas; “the child started going to school as a girl and is only known at school as a girl” (court document);
    March 8, 2018: At a school open house, the following: “So the mother said, Hey, I’ll take Luna as a girl. You’re welcome to come join us tonight [indicating this was conveyed to the father] or pick her up afterwards and have your possession after the open house is over. Dad shows up with the police. Someone files a CPS [Child Protective Services] case. We don’t know who reported it. But in the CPS case, it alleges emotional abuse because she dressed her child as a girl” (court document);
    2018? to Present: Dr. Anne begins to push for the castration track;
    July 2018: First trial begins — proceedings ongoing — both sides go on attack against each other through courts;
    Aug. 2019: Mr. Younger creates a website and uploads video of son to Youtube in desperate bid for support, as castration deadline looms;
    Sept. 2019: Story first reaches the Christian-Right media (see comment-11);
    Oct. 22, 2019: Story hits iSteve. NYT follows, Oct. 28.

    ____________

    One thing I saw but don’t understand in the timeline is the below, which is one of the court documents (no further detail given that I found) — Whatever it was, the court threw it out in June 2018:

    STATE OF TEXAS
    vs.
    Younger, Jeffery
    Defendent

    Offense Date: Dec. 18, 2017

    Offense: FV-Assault by contact

    In the Municipal Court No. 1
    City of Coppell
    Dallas County, Texas

    Acquittal Date: June 11, 2018

    Right to Expunction: YOU ARE ADVISED that today a judgment of acquittal has been entered in this proceeding. […]

    [Signature of Defendent] [Signature of Coppell Municipal Court Judge] [Stamped June 11, 2018]

    They hadn’t lived together since ca. 2015; the coming-out party was May 2017 and this “assault by contact” (whatever it was) followed in Dec. 2017. The confrontation that started the court cases looks to date to March 8, 2018, when the father “showed up with the police” and a CPS report was filed. A sad-but-all-too-common escalation spiral.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
    , @ic1000
    , @El Dato
  33. J1234 says:

    There are so many ways this mom’s philosophy could be extrapolated into future corruptions of parental duty that it’s hard to know where to start, but here’s one possibility: some able bodied people want to get elective amputations. Quote from the following link:

    Patients with body integrity identity disorder (BIID) experience a strong desire for amputation from very early on.

    “….from very early on.” Yes, it’s a disorder…for the time being. So does a woke parent follow the hyper-moral path of radical open-mindedness and accommodate a physically healthy child’s desire to identify as a disabled person with surgery?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27620665

    I know it sounds crazy, but so did a lot of other things fifty years ago, and they came about anyway. It’s difficult to determine where the left will end up in another fifty years if allowed to proceed unchecked.

  34. @nebulafox

    It’s worse than Tuskeegee. No-one was given any disease in the Tuskeegee Experiment. They had contacted syphilis on their own, and the treatments were painful, difficult, and not very effective. They were monitored to observe the progress of the disease.
    The moral failure of Tuskeegee is that they were not told the truth of their condition, so they could have otherwise acted to prevent further transmission of the disease, and that once penicillin became available post-WW2, they weren’t cured. (Although after having had syphilis for that long a time already, most would have been either dead or insane (Al Capone went insane from syphilis) or it would have been essentially isolated in their bodies and not cause much more harm.) But as the truth of their condition was withheld from them, they could not act in their own best interests.
    The common myth is that they were given syphilis by the government. It’s just not true.
    This transgender bullshit/mania is similar to the preschool Satanic Panic of the 1980’s. Female guilt over dumping their kids in daycare led to absolutely insane allegations by various mental midgets and other looney tunes being taken seriously by what passes for a justice system in this farce of a country.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  35. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Immigrants, why am I not surprised?

  36. Alden says:

    How about allowing the kids to explore their own gender identity without adult interference?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  37. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Useful timeline, but let me toss in a few corrections/additions:
    1) It seems that the father did NOT create the Save James website. This has been routinely misreported in the MSM. Family friends created it, and this was fairly obvious in the beginning, but they seem to have subsequently given him control of it, only to now take it down to comply with the “gag order”. I link to a new video from the creators above, but as I write this my comment has not yet been approved.
    2) This story actually blew up around a year ago. I can’t find the the links at the moment, but as I recall things, Rod Dreher first reported on it at TAC as a result of someone personally speaking to him in Texas. It was subsequently picked up by Lifesitenews in particular, which, I think, had multiple articles back then. I think other “right wing” sites also picked it up then. But the case also got considerable attention on /pol/ and /r/The_Donald even back then.

    Somewhat related:
    https://www.unz.com/video/prageru_the-candace-owens-show-walt-heyer/

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Hail
  38. @san joaquin sam

    san joaquin sam wrote:

    NYT: A study published this year in the journal Family Court Review looked at 10 cases in the United States in which mothers had taken an “affirming” approach to their transgender or gender-nonconforming child

    sjs: Roissy pointed out a few years ago already that Western women are in the midst of a massive social-wide mental breakdown. He was right, and this observation was before the Trump era.

    Yeah, I noticed that too. Why 10 mothers and 0 fathers?

    As I recall, when I was a kid back in the mid-twentieth century, moms were about as keen as dads on encouraging gender-expected behavior.

    So, exactly why did this change for moms but not for dads? Maybe it’s just that females are more socially conforming and so picked up on the change in approved beliefs?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Leonard
  39. Alden says:
    @Hail

    These parents are involved in 2 separate Courts

    2015 they separated and she filed for divorce in the local Family Court. The divorce amended to annulment, the sex change and continuing squabbles are in Family Court.

    Texas vs Younger, Jeffrey is in the State Criminal Court
    Dec 18, 2017 she must have made a criminal police report that he shoved her. 6 months later he was acquitted. That document is just a summary of a criminal court case.

    March 8 2018 was the date Child Protective Services became involved because the father reported the abuse of dressing the boy as a girl.

    All reports shall be investigated even if crazy grandma or vicious EX calls CPS daily with bogus reports. It’s something often done in nasty divorces and social workers know it.

    In most jurisdictions, CPS investigators & other workers bring police along because there are a lot of crazy people out there. And children might have to be removed, some crazy person might be drunk and armed, it’s dangerous.

    Father did the right thing there. Must have been well advised. It brought the possible abuse to the attention of Child Protective Services. CPS, like the Family Court Judge is supposed to be neutral investigators. Remember, they’ve heard it all.

    The twins, or at least James night end up a ward of the court. He’d live with a parent, but legal guardian would be the Family Court.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
  40. Kronos says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yeah, that worked out REALLY well in that 1980s horror film “Sleepaway Camp.”

    *Warning Spoilers* -and a penis…

  41. Kronos says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yeah, that worked out REALLY well in that 1980s horror film “Sleepaway Camp.”

    Warning Spoilers -and a penis…

  42. syonredux says:

    Ibram X. Kendi has done the impossible; he makes me nostalgic for TN Coates….

    At times, it’s hard to know whether to interpret Kendi’s arguments as factual claims subject to empirical scrutiny or as diary entries to be accepted as personal truths. Indeed, much of the book reads like a seeker’s memoir or a conversion story in the mold of Augustine’s Confessions. Raised in a rough part of Queens in the 1990s, Kendi recounts his long journey from anti-black racism to anti-white racism, and eventually, to antiracism. In high school, Kendi delivered a speech bemoaning the bad behavior of black youth; by college, he had outgrown that phase and become anti-white, convinced at one point that white people were literal aliens but later scaling down to the belief that they were “simply a different breed of human.” A New Yorker piece cites a column he wrote as an undergraduate, in which he argued that “white people were fending off racial extinction, using ‘psychological brainwashing’ and ‘the aids virus.’”

    https://www.city-journal.org/how-to-be-an-antiracist

    • Replies: @El Dato
  43. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The things that gave the story sticking power in this, the Sept./Oct. 2019 chain of coverage (vs. the late 2018 appearances) are probably:

    [1] The “castration” angle, as pushed for by Dr. Anne (the legal mother) and Rebekka Ouer, the LGBT psychologist who told the court that in her professional opinion the boy should be castrated; and

    [2] The video of the boy, uploaded to Youtube in Aug. 2019 (for the first time?).

    Looking back at the 2018 coverage, the castration angle is not highlighted. For example, this is how One America News’ Liz Wheeler characterized the case in Nov. 2018:

    A Dad in Texas is threatened with losing his son if he doesn’t dress the 6yo boy as a girl.

    Which sounds troubling but nowhere near as alarming as the castrationist Sword of Damocles imagery we got with the story’s Oct. 2019 breakthrough, which (afaict) largely originated with LifeSiteNews, as you say.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  44. Neoconned says:

    I’m generally pro choice and I wouldnt say “pro” lgbt but I’m very libertarian on the issue. I have a few friends who identify as trans and thats fine by me as I view it as none of my business. That being said, I dont favor taxpayer financed trans anything and I think kids should be forced to wait til 18 before they transition…. Perhaps 16 is ok.

    Anything younger than that is wrong.

    • LOL: eah
  45. Neoconned says:
    @Anonymous

    I visited SLC in 2016 on my way to Denver…..bizarre place. I got lost actually wandering around downtown and I stopped to ask a white lady for directions….

    She was Russian of all things…..i thought that odd for Mormon country but I guess they have a lot of them in Utah…..

  46. El Dato says:
    @syonredux

    No medical intervention is recommended before the onset of puberty, [Dr. Jason Rafferty, a pediatrician and child psychiatrist also affiliated with Brown University] said. Around puberty, hormone blockers to stop secondary sex characteristics from developing may be used. From there, a young person may choose to progress to gender-affirming hormones, and perhaps eventually surgery.

    I wonder how has invented the adjective “GENDER-AFFIRMING” and associated to “hormones”. Brilliant Newspeak adaptation. Right up there with “shots rang out”.

    Soon:

    “Chocolate-Frosted Sugar Bombs: Reinforced with Gender-Affirming Hormones.”

  47. Neoconned says:
    @Scoopy

    Agreed strongly…..give convicted felons, especially those with noted violent or sexual tendencies the paid option of sterilization….

    Imagine how many welfare cases we’ll prevent simply by offering it up as a voluntary thing.

    I dunno why ex robbers and sex offenders need the constitutional right to spit out babies they cant care for…..

  48. @Scoopy

    I’m reluctantly forced to agree that some people should be incentivized to not have kids, preferably by sterilization. This is unlibertarian, but since about one percent of people vote Libertarian and this is a nominally democratic republic, as John Wayne put it in his explanation to Jimmy Stewart of what happened in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, “I can live with that.”.

  49. @Hail

    [1] The “castration” angle, as pushed for by Dr. Anne (the legal mother) and Rebekka Ouer, the LGBT psychologist who told the court that in her professional opinion the boy should be castrated; and

    In my professional opinion this woman should be tarred and feathered and run out of town and any prosecutor who charges anyone with any crime for it should be subject to a writ of outlawry.

  50. uyhr says:

    The Dad was discharged from the army for homosexuality.

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/anne-georgulas/

    There is something wrong with these people. Mother and Father and probably the kids too.

    Here’s a suggestion: If you aren’t a member of society in good standing and in a good marriage then you don’t get to have children. and if you’ve already had them, well, the least we can do is castrate them as small children so that their masculinity is less likely to be a serious problem for society.

    Females are a rather amorphous blob, it’s why humanity descends from about 100 females for every male. Very few women have ever amounted to much – either good or bad. Pretty much every Incredible person has been male. From Genghis Khan to Einstein to Mencken to Gandhi to… do I really have to spell out an argument here that only men matter? Pharaoh…and Moses already spelled it out better than me.

    A small drop of masculinity goes a long way.

    So when it comes to people who have a track record of being troublesome – and both parents do – we ought to revoke their rights to have sons. And if the best society will allow is to chemically castrate them in the name of some laughably ridiculous modern fad then so be it.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
  51. Hail says: • Website

    OT —

    The Odd Couple, 2020 political season edition:

    [MORE]

    Bernie Sanders
    @BernieSanders [verified]
    Oct 28, 2019

    This Sunday, join @IlhanMN and I at our rally in Minneapolis! Help us show Trump and the rest of the billionaire class that we’re ready to take on their corruption and create a nation based on justice. RSVP here: [link]

  52. anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    “ … join @IlhanMN and I …”

  53. drogger says:

    Deny, then justify.

    Typical J behavior

  54. If minors as young as seven can express a gender preference, why can’t they smoke, drink, drive cars, and vote? Maybe the father should counter by getting kid hooked on cigarettes, booze and driving.

    ‘Cause He’s She’s just a girl he’d she’d rather not be
    ‘Cause they won’t let him her drive late at night
    Oh he’s she’s just a girl, guess he’s she’s some kind of freak
    ‘Cause they all sit and stare with their eyes

    Oh he’s she’s just a girl, take a good look at him her,
    Just your typical prototype

    Oh… he’s she’s had it up to here!

    Oh… is he she making himself herself clear?

    He’s She’s just a girl
    He’s She’s just a girl in the world…
    That’s all that you’ll let him her be!

    He’s She’s just a girl, living in captivity
    Your rule of thumb makes him her worry some
    He’s She’s just a girl, what’s his her destiny?
    What he’s she’s succumbed to is making him her numb.

    etc.

    • Agree: Macumazahn
    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Kylie
  55. El Dato says:

    OT:

    Meanwhile, as Microsoft has unexpectedly been handed the 10-billion USD contract for the Pentagon Cloud Infrastructure (as if that is ever going to work partially or at all before the Empire self-terminates), I found funny new description for WaPo:

    Over the weekend word broke that the President may have asked the Pentagon not to give the contract to AWS, due to Jeff Bezos’ ownership of the Washington Post, a paper that has declined to follow the White House’ media narrative.

  56. @Hypnotoad666

    Maybe he will overcompensate by becoming hypermasculine, but also like Hemingway, he’ll probably commit suicide.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  57. I think liberals and democrats are doing a fine job — they should keep it up . . .

    Though I think a few more photos of men dressed as women teaching toddlers would be helpful.

    • Agree: Thea
  58. The same people who advocate hormone therapy for “gender dysphoria” bitch the loudest if you use Ralgro in feeder cattle.

  59. TTSSYF says:
    @Scoopy

    Agreed. And it’s not even close to being the moral equivalent.

  60. Svevlad says:
    @Scoopy

    The only way to make the 13% be 5% and 5%

  61. TTSSYF says:
    @Liza

    Has anyone in authority ever suggested letting the boy (and other mixed-up kids) have their fantasies by humoring them for a few years?

    I would not call that “doing your best.”

    I dressed my younger brother up as a girl once when we were kids. My mother was too busy to notice, but, when my father came home from work, he put an immediate stop to it. We found plenty of other ways to have fun and make people laugh.

    • Replies: @Liza
  62. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    Some women are obsessed with dressing up in a girly-like fashion to the point of barking madness.

    I highly recommend that any such woman adopt a female poodle.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  63. El Dato says:
    @JimDandy

    Life, the video game edition.

  64. mmack says:
    @Anonymous

    Is REAL Russian collusion, comrade!

  65. JAhd says:

    The Simulation is stuck on “Weimer Republic” mode… which is boring as we already know the ending.

  66. JAhd says:
    @Neoconned

    Be honest … as a libertarian you should proudly stand for pedos. Your whole creed was invented for and by pedos.

  67. ic1000 says:
    @Hail

    Thanks for posting the compilation.

  68. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    Nice video version where the mom forces the boy into a dress to go to a wedding, where he ends up KO’ing another boy who ridicules him.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  69. @El Dato

    I’m not sure it’s an improvement to hand the Pentagon cloud contract to an Indian company like Microsoft. I could live with it if it were the 7-11 cloud.

    • LOL: BB753
  70. TTSSYF says:

    How does gender reassignment to children with no ambiguity as to their sex, or amputation of a limb from a person with “BIID” (i.e., mental illness), conform to the Hippocratic oath to “First, do no harm”? These doctors should have their licenses taken from them.

    • Agree: Dtbb, donut
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @getaclue
  71. Yak-15 says:
    @san joaquin sam

    Didn’t the mass hysteria of the late 19th century demonstrate this already?

  72. @Reg Cæsar

    I’m sorry, what percentage of federal funding IS voluntary? We are forced to pay to house, feed and medically care for convicts. No one asked me. And if they did, I would say make sterilization for felons involuntary. That or merely pay towards their first class one way airfare back to the dark continent.

  73. Walsh2 says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Papa did have a son who was a cross dresser/tranny, I believe he lived in South Florida and was in and out of jail most of his adult life until he died basically on the streets. Cross dressing son (genetic?), owned lots of cats, early years as an expat in Paris, alcoholism, instability – maybe Hemingway’s mom knew something and Ernest was over compensating.

  74. “All anybody would be saying at this point is support your kid in the gender they identify with,” said Dr. Michelle Forcier . . . .

    For the millionth time, it is The Left that tells us that sex and “gender” are not the same thing, so none of this transgender nonsense makes sense even within The Left’s frame work.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @TWS
    , @El Dato
  75. Altai says:
    @Anonymous

    Impossible, these are nobel slav names and I’m told by the Richard Spencers and other former libertarian neoreactionaries that they are the most beautiful creations on this Earth. There is no such thing as a ‘foreign’ white person!

    It couldn’t be that maybe Southern and Eastern Europeans are actually more hostile to immigrants due to being lower trust and lower empathy peoples.

  76. The effects of hormone blockers are reversible

    I hear this repeated often and pretty blithely by the trans activists, but I am severely skeptical. I raise livestock and hormone blockers aside, a bad case of worms or other illness can permanently stunt a calf or kid’s growth and there’s no coming back from that. If you “delay” puberty, I find it unlikely that the body will just bounce back from that without serious side effects. Even if you put them on a different cocktail of hormones to promote growth, you’re courting serious health risks.

    Remember, this is the same sort of medication that many of probably the very same people decry as unsafe and inhumane when the topic is beef or chicken fed growth hormones.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  77. @Anon

    The Who knew what a demonic practice it was.

  78. “We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era.”

    Speak for yourself Steve.

  79. jsm says:
    @Scoopy

    Yep.

    I would go one further: The daughters of women who’ve ever been on welfare, give them a stipend to NOT get pregnant from ages 14 to 30. Stop the cycle of welfare queens.

    Cuz, let’s be honest. Welfare queens are in general sub-par quality humans and they breed sub-par quality humans. Pay them NOT to breed, think for a minute of the trillions of dollars *not* spent to support their kids and their kids’ kids and so on and so on…

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
  80. @Charlesz Martel

    This transgender bullshit/mania is similar to the preschool Satanic Panic of the 1980’s.

    No. It’s not.

    Not now that the FBI has released heavily-redacted (by the CIA, of all things) evidence that there was in fact a cult-like group doing the whole satan-worshiping, child-abuse (possibly sexual abuse) thing back in the mid-80’s to mid-90’s. https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-01/view [Yes, that’s a dot-gov website.]

    Oh, and that preschool thing, where the kids’ tales of being taking into underground tunnels were partly debunked on the basis that no tunnels were found by FBI investigators?

    The FBI LIED. The tunnels were there, as was forensic evidence of some kind of satanic ritual use. Read it. Then accept that today’s questions about the honesty of the FBI (wrt Trump) are nothing new.

    The “Satanic Panic” was based on something quite real.

    PS: If you look into this, perhaps the most interesting question is, what was the CIA’s interest here? This rabbit hole goes deeper than most people can probably imagine.

  81. @Alden

    How about allowing kids to inject heroin without adult interference?

    Instead of being all wishy-washy about this, we should encourage boys to be boys and girls to be girls. Indulging a severe and socially debilitating mental illness is madness.

    • Replies: @Alden
  82. jsm says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Aye.

    QUOTE: The child’s mother, Anne Georgulas, had honored what she said was the child’s preference to live as a girl and sought to compel the father, Jeffrey Younger, to do the same, according to court documents. But Mr. Younger insisted that the child is a boy and said that Ms. Georgulas was manipulating the child’s identity.

    Notice how the mother “honored” but the father “insisted.” How come it’s not that the mother insists (that he’s a she) and the father is honoring (the fact that this child is XY, otherwise known as “a boy”)

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  83. BB753 says:
    @uyhr

    Can you still be discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality? Does not the army encourage non-binarity or alternatively could he not have been transferred to the Navy?

  84. Thea says:

    John Knox was spot on in “ The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstruous Regiment of Women.”

    If he only knew how bad it could get.

    The entire gay rights movement was powered by weeping mothers of perverts sons who didn’t want anyone tho hurt their feelings. They sold it to normal people in a way the Castro District couldn’t .

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @BB753
  85. Jake says:
    @Whiskey

    Correct.

    You just need to add this: the vast majority of the movers and shakers, the moneymen, the bosses, of that alliance of white perverts and freaks + non-whites + non-Christians is white.

    Per capita, that group of whites leading revolution features Jews. But the percentage of Jews who are revolution promoters is likely barely higher than the percentage of Quakers or Congregationalists or United Church of Christ folk (the latter two groups direct descendants of pure Anglo-Saxon Puritans).

  86. @Neoconned

    It’s wrong for adults too. There is no basis in medical science for eviscerating healthy human tissue and disrupting normal endocrine function. The only justification for these “treatments” is to keep highly disturbed individuals from mutilating themselves.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  87. @Liza

    It’s not the boy’s fantasy. It the fantasy of his insane mother. It is transgenderism by proxy (a sub-category of Munchausen’s by proxy).

  88. Dammit Sailer, here’s our one chance to hear roles written for castrati sung by real castrati instead of mezzos. I thought you were an opera fan!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  89. Anon[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Given

    My understanding, from coming across this in various biographies, is that it was indeed rather common, esp. among the WASP elites, or those striving to seem elite. Eg., Ed Wood, and we know how that turned out. Fictionally, see The Magnificent Ambersons, where little Georgie is mocked for his “girlie curls” and Little Lord Fauntleroy outfit (itself another trope); he beats the snot out of the lower class boy, just like Justin Trudeau beat that Conservative half-breed a few years ago.

    Just off the top of my head, I’m willing to bet Orson was treated that way as well.

    • Replies: @Paul Rise
    , @obwandiyag
  90. @donvonburg

    Not only are you absolutely correct, you also taught me something today. I cannot wait to use the “writ of outlawry” at my next get together. Thanks.

    As for Dr. Rebekka, I masochistically went over to her site, and she claims to use a method called “Solution Focused Brief Therapy.” Here’s my translation: Do as I say, and everyone gets hurt.

  91. @uyhr

    I have an impression, maybe not a correct one, that this usually involves older mothers. The Youngers had to use somebody else’s eggs, violating Nature’s dictum that if you haven’t had kids by the time you’re perimenopausal then you weren’t supposed to.

    Old, addled mom, looking back with regret, doesn’t even have a hereditary tie to her child, maybe wanted a daughter instead…

    I’d ban in vitro too. This whole mess is devolutionary.

    • Replies: @Hail
  92. Anon[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    “God help us all if we were forced to live for life based on the whims we had at seven… and that’s the lesser of two evils.”

    Somebody once said (Seinfeld? Hemingway?) that if we all became what we wanted to be as a child, we’d live in a world of cowboys, firemen, nurses and ballerinas. Hmm, itself a “sexist” observation, I suppose,

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  93. Hail says: • Website
    @Patrick in SC

    Conservative “outcry” is always illegitimate because, well, they’re conservative. E.g. “An abortion services provider had to complete the procedure ex utero… The far right internet pounced!” “How dare they notice the bad stuff we commit, endorse, and cover up!”

    Does this qualify as “Frontlash”?

  94. @Anonymous

    All descendants of families who crossed on the Mayflower.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  95. “We now all believe it was wrong to mess with the fertility of people during the eugenics era. Will we someday look back on the transgender era with the same repulsion?”

    Depends upon who’s wielding the megaphone by then. If it’s still the Usual Suspects, note that they’ll also be writing the history.

  96. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    Diversity. It’s a beautiful thing

    Personally and from other’s anecdotes, there seems to be a large uptick in such scams that correspond with our love love love of immigrants. Maybe Ron Unz will be along to assure us that immigrants commit such fraud at a lower rate than natives.

  97. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes Vindman is Jewish. And with men like him, the country will be great. He is a real American patriot and has the combat wounds to prove it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  98. @ben tillman

    For the millionth time, it is The Left that tells us that sex and “gender” are not the same thing

    Any idiot can see they’re not the same thing. Gender is what you see on the end of words. Sex is what you see on the end of people.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  99. ic1000 says:

    The reporter’s and editors’ choice of words is important to the framing of the Younger story.

    A bitter custody battle in Dallas that centers on the gender identity of a 7-year-old child provoked an outcry among conservatives this month.

    Prior to circa 2014 and the NYT’s rush to the front lines of WWT, the reporter’s choice of words would have been different. A more informative lede:

    A bitter custody battle in Dallas centers on the gender identity of a 7-year-old boy.

    The child’s boy’s mother, Anne Georgulas, had honored what she said was the child’s boy’s preference to live as a girl and sought to compel the father, Jeffrey Younger, to do the same, according to court documents. But Mr. Younger insisted that the child XY-karyotyped, penis-bearing, high-testosterone male is a boy and said that Ms. Georgulas was manipulating the child’s identity.

    Mr. Younger’s characterization of medical care for children boys wrestling with gender identity is hotly disputed, and the judge’s ruling noted that Ms. Georgulas had not tried to yet been able to advance to chemical castration and surgery, steps that would sterilize her pre-teen son and permanently feminize his body.

    As alleged.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  100. TWS says:
    @ben tillman

    It doesn’t have to make sense. It’s just a club to bludgeon is with. The left has no moral compass only interests.

  101. Hail says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    maybe wanted a daughter instead

    It has been reported that the newlywed couple (married: Dec. 2010), in talks with the fertility IVF clinic in 2011, “requested” boys. But isn’t that illegal?

    Old, addled mom, looking back with regret

    As for the complementary theory that the mom is a severe Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferer, I would note the marriage had apparently broken down by spring 2015, which is pre-Trump.

    It’s still very possible that the trauma of the end of the marriage and divorce proceedings, in 2015 and 2016, and the acrimony it all caused, led directly to castration path. The Transgender movement was just getting going in earnest by this time, and she must have found it a good tool to bash her enemies — especially her ex-husband but not necessarily limited thereto — over the head with.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @David
  102. Altai says:

    OT: Has Steve seen this, I’d read about the Canadian government doing the whole ‘I’d like to acknowledge that we’re on the traditional soil of X’ (Blood and soil is fine but not for thee white man!) SJW virtue signal as they celebrate another 100k Indians and Chinese buying into the settler colonial state and make the aboriginal peoples an even smaller minority.

    They unveiled a new banknote series last year and Trudeau made sure it featured Viola Desmond (The Canadian Rosa Parks, except far far less important because there weren’t very many black people in Canada or very many race laws but every person in Canada under a certain age knows who she is because they teach her vigorously in schools) on the first note of the new series kicking John A. Macdonald off the $10 dollar note. (But what did he ever do for Canada?) But what is interesting is how they got the ‘Minister of International Development’ to unveil it since she is black.

    The whole thing is just incredible, it’s sad to watch a great country and people being dismantled through the exploitation of their own empathy. The consequence of this will be a much harsher world bereft of as much empathy or openness to new ideas, sad.

    It gets even more confused to me when they get the declaration in the indigenous language. Blood and soil is supposed to be bad, right? Why is this woman so concerned, she now gets to live in multi-cultural Canada! It’s not a tragedy to be ethnically displaced, made a minority and watch your people culturally and genetically fade away, you get access to all that food and international financial markets! That language only has deep and eternal meaning to her, it’s not the language of international commerce! Learn Mandarin!

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Altai
    , @Lot
    , @Anonymous
  103. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    “I was concerned by the call. I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine. I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security.” Vindman also reported this event to the NSC’s lead counsel, John Eisenberg.[13]

    Sounds like he is chiefly concerned with representing the interests of some other country, not the United States.

    And I honestly don’t care about his military record. All of this “they’re fighting to defend our freedom, fighting to keep us safe” stuff is just horseshit. He is a centurion in Caesar’s legions – he was fighting to protect an empire.

    But I’m sure you’re happy that someone has finally dug up a soldier servingin the modern US military who isn’t a gentile.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  104. BenKenobi says:
    @TTSSYF

    Because the only thing that causes harm in the current year is the opinions of right-wingers.

  105. ic1000 says:

    I have learned much from Teen Vogue, the medical establishment, Connecticut’s champion sprinters in girls’ indoor track, and the NYT. In particular, gender is fluid.

    A thought experiment.

    The mainstream media regularly highlights the cases of the relatively few parents of pre-teens who look forward to he-man daughters or girly sons (Anne Georgulas). Surely there are many more moms and dads who want their young offspring to be more gender typical. JonBenet Ramsay’s mother and the trope of the frustrated sports-crazed father (e.g.) come to mind.

    The Pop Warner League coach who injects his 9-year-old son with testosterone should be applauded, as long as the lad’s on-the-field performance improves.

    And for moms with the courage of their convictions, puberty blockers are very effective in enhancing the careers of aspiring ballerinas, gymnasts, and skaters.

    Sure, culture war soldiers want to pick and choose their morality. But are there strong arguments against considering gender fluidity as a package deal?

    By Current Year standards, the East Germans’ problem is that they didn’t go far enough.

    • Replies: @Hail
  106. tyrone says:

    In the future we will look back on this age in revulsion???….how about now!

  107. Lot says:
    @Hail

    “In talks with the fertility IVF clinic in 2011, “requested” boys. But isn’t that illegal”

    I don’t think so.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  108. Liza says:
    @TTSSYF

    You are right about “humoring”. Really, if it was my boy, I am not sure what I would do.

    However, in the case of a boy spontaneously wanting to dress as a girl, I think that’s more a sign of possible homosexuality than transsexuality. In the case of your brother, that was two kids playing. Over-reaction to just about any crazy thing children do is a bad idea.

    And then there’s parents who decide to dress their boys in girls’ costumes at Hallowe’en. Like Justinian Trudeau in Kanuckistan. I’ve seen pictures of this. A hot pink dress for a young boy while Daddy is dressed like Clark Kent.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  109. Hail says: • Website
    @ic1000

    Those internal contradictions mean this revolution-from-above, too, shall pass.

    Check back in 2023 to see if candidates for the next presidential term are still being subjected to this by the journo-commissars at CNN (etc.):

  110. @Hypnotoad666

    All Hemingway had to do was grow up, leave home, rip off the dress and let his testosterone fueled body express itself. This kid (and many more to come) will be drugged, mutilated, and psychologically programmed beyond return.

    It’s disgusting.

  111. AndrewR says:

    I’d like to strongly condemn this man for choosing to mix his seed with this demonic excuse for a woman.

    I’m unsure whether to congratulate or condemn him for refraining to ensure she is permanently unable to harm their poor child.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
    , @J.Ross
    , @anon
  112. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I’m glad that Trump is the President and not Hillary.

    BUT Trump is a highly atypical President and does irregular things. Up until now, the US has had a more or less bipartisan foreign policy and the President usually didn’t try to involve foreign powers in partisan politics. It’s not surprising that Vindman (and a number of others) were alarmed by his actions. I’m not sure it’s an impeachable offense but really Trump should have just left this in Giuliani’s hands and stayed out of it.

    It’s always a conundrum as to what you do when the President does something wrong since he is the Commander in Chief and is entitled to set his own policies – he is the one who GIVES orders, not follows them. Nixon said, “When the President does it, it’s not a crime.”

    It seems to me that Vindman as a military man did the right thing by kicking it up the chain of command. It was above his pay grade. He reported it and left it to others to decide what the appropriate response was. His oath is to the United States, not to Donald Trump personally.

    I’m pretty sure that if this was President Sanders and he was asking Ukraine to investigate the Trump family and a WASP officer reported it, you’d be calling him a great patriot, etc. and complaining about how the Jew President was selling out the United States for his own personal interests. This is all just who-whom on your part.

  113. Thea says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    It was common in the 19th century to dress all young children in long flouncy gowns. Oscar Wilde also has such childhood photos. But do do many normal men from m that era.

  114. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    In some countries (China) where there’s a strong cultural preference for boys, abortion for sex selection is supposed to be illegal but it’s hard to prove and judging by the fact that many more boys than girls are born the law is getting broken a lot. In some years there have been 121 boys born for every 100 girls in China vs. the worldwide avg. of 104. This is going to lead to a lot of Chinese bachelors in the future.

    But in the US AFAIK there are no such laws.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @reiner Tor
  115. @AndrewR

    refraining to ensure she is permanently unable to harm their poor child.

    Heh.

    Yeah so far it seems no one has tried to pull this crap on that kind of guy. I think the wives know better. The wives who do try probably also know better about their husbands.

    How many people in the way of the chain of custody between the kid and the father’s parents/siblings? Or even a foster home if you’re out of options?

    I could say I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet, but I’m not quite, because I tend to think no woman would try this on a guy she knew was like that. Part of it may stem from these women being bitter their guys aren’t.

  116. TTSSYF says:
    @Liza

    There was no over-reaction by my father. Just a stern directive to not do it. Children today could use a few more stern directives.

    • Replies: @Liza
  117. El Dato says:
    @ben tillman

    Trans-activists are like Gremlins who have been fed after midnight with gender-affirmative chemicals and now feel the urge for activism, any activism, at any time, in any place!

    • Replies: @Rouetheday
  118. fnn says:
    @Whiskey

    This is your best post in years.

  119. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    (and they apparently can’t pronounce clitoris in Canada, either):

    That’s to be expected.After all, Canadians can’t pronounce “horrible” correctly.

  120. El Dato says:
    @Patrick in SC

    News about Bolshevik gulags were not appreciated when they came out.

    Actually bizarre as Hitler hadn’t gone into the ring yet. Instead, the Red Army had attacked viciously, with the goal to convert Berlin and Rome and Warshaw, come what may.

    The ethereal communist paradise shall not be denied!

  121. nixxer says:

    “experts who treat transgender youths disputed that characterization”

    Has there ever been a case of “experts who treat transgender youths” deciding that the youth brought before them is not in fact transgendered?

    I get the sense that the moment they walk through the door, from the “expert’s” perspective, the decision has already been made, and their job is simply to help guide the transition, not question it.

  122. Tipsy says:

    Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome, as a plot element, in “The Sixth Sense” (Spoiler Alert!)

  123. Kylie says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Don’t forget “drumbeat”.

    A steady drumbeat of bigotry/hatred etc.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  124. @Jack D

    Pure drivel. If Sanders was president, Trump running again after being out of office, and a cokehead Donald Trump Jr. was sitting on the board of a Ukrainian oil company getting paid a lot of money to do nothing, Sanders would be asking questions and assistance from the Ukrainian government. And not one damn person in the media, or civil service, or political ranks of the military would consider that wrong in the least.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Jack D
  125. Liza says:
    @TTSSYF

    @Liza
    There was no over-reaction by my father. Just a stern directive to not do it. Children today could use a few more stern directives.

    I understand and that is not what I meant to say – just making a general statement that some parents do go ape shit over some behavior instead of thinking things through and trying to find sensible solutions.

    And I thank you for politely correcting me, as some folks here would not be quite as gracious.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  126. @Roger

    “I wonder if there is any empirical support for that, or if it is just leftist logic.”

    The sooner people get over the phantasm that there’s anything called “empirical support” in the social sciences that can survive repeated replication, the better.

  127. Paul says:

    If a seven-year-old boy is sacrificed on the alter of political correctness, “progressives” consider that a small price to pay. I wonder what legal liability any doctor who participates in such grotesque experimentation on a child may be exposed to if the youth, on reaching adulthood, decides to file a lawsuit.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Alden
    , @BB753
  128. J.Ross says:
    @Liza

    Compare the money you would make from the unjustifiable prescription of unwarranted drugs (the soul entire of modren therapy) to the money you would make from … whatever you said and however that would work. Drugs win.

    • Agree: Liza
  129. J.Ross says:
    @AndrewR

    It was established in earlier threads that both parents are garbage.

  130. @PhysicistDave

    Dads have been forcing their daughters to act like men too, they just don’t make them tack dicks on or anything like that so it’s so socially approved as to be unnoticed.

    Product of smaller family sizes.

    • Agree: Thea
  131. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Vindman’s ethno-religious identity is subsumed in his idiotic and self-defeating decision to join the completely pointless “impeachment” effort. This genius is making claims about “what he heard” but meanwhile on planet Earth we have a transcript, and that transcript was released publicly, and the Russian-finders have dropped the “quid pro quo” line.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  132. Dads have been forcing their daughters to act like men too, they just don’t make them tack dicks on or anything like that so it’s so socially approved as to be unnoticed.

    Soccer dads. Girls in the Boy Scouts now.

    We will see how they react with the next defense bill. In 2016, the Senate passed one that required women to register with Selective Service, but this didn’t make it into the House version. The Republican House. Now the House is Democratic.

    Product of smaller family sizes.

    These fathers-of-daughters-only will be conflicted. Do they stand up for their daughters, or go along with the logic of the equality BS?

    I haven’t seen too many fathers speaking out when trannies invade their daughters’ sporting events. Or even normal boys their field hockey teams– that has been going on for some time now.

    (You’d think the spread of professional ice hockey in the South would inspire the adoption of the more climatically appropriate form of the sport among boys, so they’d have their own teams, but that isn’t happening, is it?)

  133. @El Dato

    Yes, dear, but what about the black lives that disproportionately snuff out trans lives? Do they matter?

  134. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @dc.sunsets

    The McMartin preschool case was all based on anti-Catholic bigotry. Those papists just had to be up to no good .

  135. @Roger

    Roger, yes, there is empirical evidence.

    https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223

    I’ve chided Steve that “The Man Who Notices,” rather conspicuously never notices, let alone engages the medical research on this topic.

    You feign concern about these children, but disregard their feelings and well-being, when you callously compare a recognized medical issue to a fantasy from Star Trek.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Roger
  136. Altai says:
    @Altai

    Copy pasted the wrong video.

  137. @dc.sunsets

    Not now that the FBI has released heavily-redacted (by the CIA, of all things) evidence that there was in fact a cult-like group doing the whole satan-worshiping, child-abuse (possibly sexual abuse) thing back in the mid-80’s to mid-90’s.

    I have searched the document for the strings “satan”, “devil” , “worship” and got no results. What makes you think this is anything other than a pedophile ring?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @dc.sunsets
  138. @TTSSYF

    All the pink-toenail-polished white poodles are owned by gay men. There’s a long waiting list. You can’t just up and get one! (Well, you could breed them, but good luck getting them to do it right…)

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  139. Leonard says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Maybe it’s just that females are more socially conforming and so picked up on the change in approved beliefs?

    Yes.

    Don’t forget the effect of bell curves on the outliers. Women are maybe 1 standard deviation more socially compliant than men. So if you look for some very modest measure of compliance to The Current Year’s zeitgeist — perhaps, saying “so” instead of “very” — the sex ratio is around 50/50. But as you go to more extreme behaviors like castrating a small child, it’s all women.

  140. “The concept of transgender Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome is one that courts and doctors need to become more familiar with.”

    Steve, yes, that is a “concept,” in the sense that is something that can no doubt happen given the range of a human folly. That doesn’t make it empirically supported. Nor does it make it a material phenomenon, let alone a concern that should dictate medical practice.

    Occam’s Butterknife here is that women are more sympathetic by nature (thus less homophobic and transphobic), more likely to show their children unconditional love, and more likely to follow medical advice. Thus they affirm their child’s identity because they believe it to be the loving and medically-sound thing to do, not because the mothers themselves are mentally ill.

    The fact you really don’t care about these kids is underscored by your evasion of the suicide and self-harm risks, which are foremost in the minds of practitioners trying to assist actual patients. They’ve been dealing with transsexualism for ninety years in practice. Trans identity that persists into puberty is overwhelmingly permanent and does not respond to psychotherapy or psychiatric intervention.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  141. @Alden

    Texas doesn’t have family courts or criminal courts. Kim Cooks is judge of the 255th District Court. I don’t know what court the criminal case was in, but it could well have been in the same court.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anon
  142. Off-topic: former US rep. John Conyers has died, and The New York Times begins the obituary by mentioning the sexual harassment accusations against him and his subsequent resignation, giving them more prominence than his Nixon/Clinton impeachment opinions and second only to his long term in office. The paper does state they were just allegations and that he was pressured to resign.

    One might wonder: had he died before the allegations, would they still have been made posthumously? If, instead, he died a decade after stepping down (rather than in less than two years), would the allegations be given such attention in his obituary?

  143. @Anon

    Allow me to take credit for the first mention here of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy in connection with this case:

    That comment was by Anon[280] while you are Anon[213]. No credit for you…

  144. Art Deco says:
    @Thea

    Sally Field, pest. And Ellen Degeneres mother (who continues to use the surname of the man she divorced over 40 years ago, in spite of a subsequent marriage and divorce).

    Not sure about ‘powered’, but definitely a big part of the sales job.

  145. @Desiderius

    That’s a good point. Still, making your daughter put up with soccer playing when she doesn’t really give a crap and going fishing with you after 12 years old don’t cause permanent damage. Now, a $20,000 co-pay, in-patient adedictome is another story.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  146. @Mr. Anon

    Nice C.W. McCall reference. A few months ago I was flying from CA back to the east coast and the moving map on the seatback in front of me had “Wolf Creek Pass” as one of the locations down below.

    “the sign said clearance to the 12 foot line, but the chickens was stacked to thirteen-nine…”

    He’s still with us apparently

    http://www.cw-mccall.com/

  147. @Anon

    Haha! It sounds like Seinfeld, but then I’ve only read the Cliff Notes for Hemingway.

  148. @Neoconned

    I have a few friends who identify as trans and

    I wonder if this is a generational thing. Not only do I not have any “trans” friends, I’m pretty sure I’ve never met any “trans” people (if I did they were really good at hiding it).

    If one of my friends announced he was becoming “trans” I would encourage him to seek help for his mental illness.

  149. BB753 says:
    @Thea

    Who knew I could agree with John Knox, a Calvinist and thus heretic? :

    “For who can denie but it repugneth to nature, that the blind shal be appointed to leade and conduct such as do see? That the weake, the sicke, and impotent persones shall norishe and kepe the hole and strong, and finallie, that the foolishe, madde and phrenetike shal gouerne the discrete, and giue counsel to such as be sober of mind? And such be al women, compared vnto man in bearing of authoritie. For their sight in ciuile regiment, is but blindnes: their strength, weaknes: their counsel, foolishenes: and judgement, phrenesie, if it be rightlie considered.”

  150. @Prester John

    All descendants of families who crossed on the Mayflower.

    You don’t know how very likely that is, Prester. In fact, these Russian Pilgrims likely rode in the back of the semi pictured here from New Jersey across the Delaware, Susquehanna, Monongahela, Ohio, Scioto, Miami, Stillwater, Licking, White, Wabash, Mississippi, Missouri (4 X), Arapaho, and Green Rivers on their Trip to Bountiful. Lots of crossings on the Mayflower… OK, correction, IN the Mayflower.

  151. @Paul

    They don’t consider it a price at all, it’s a triumph.

  152. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s “were” and your analogy isn’t at all analogous.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  153. TTSSYF says:
    @Liza

    Thank you. I haven’t always been so polite, but I have pledged to myself to do so from now on, whether here or in person, or else not respond at all (there are a few here I no longer bother replying to because of their unprovoked rudeness..they probably couldn’t care less, but nor could I).

  154. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes he is a Jew. I wonder what his great grandfather was doing during the Jew/Bolshevik
    genocide of the Christian Ukrainian goyim in the 1930s.

  155. Alden says:
    @Ben tillman

    It was in the criminal court. Same courthouse but different courts. Civil court, adult criminal court, juvenile criminal court, Family court.

    Texas State Court County of whatever, different divisions

    State of Texas VS Jeffrey Younger defendant that’s criminal court.

    Person the plaintiff vs person the respondent is civil court.

  156. OFF TOPIC

  157. Alden says:
    @Paul

    20 years from now we might see 30 year olds suing the Drs who gave them puberty blockers and other hormones at age 10 and the parents who authorized it. There’ll be ADs on tv by attorneys.

  158. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    It usually isn’t forced, but girls are pliable and take the hint that Dad would love it if his little princess would take up rebuilding small block Chevies or stalking deer with a .30-06. They wind up doing what on their own they would not do.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  159. Paul Rise says:
    @Anon

    Douglas MacArthur was dressed as a girl by his mother until age 6 I think, and she had him grow his hair long and curled it etc. I also believe most if this period of time he lived in married officers quarters as his father was a general sent to various posts throughout the US.

    • Replies: @Alden
  160. El Dato says:
    @dc.sunsets

    More like kids with implanted memories. If I recall hypnotism and suggestions were used to elicit witness statements. Sheer quakery.

    It’s like killer clown panics, UFO abductions with burns or skin marks, or Nazis walking like Egyptians at midnight in school dormitories.

    There is always “something there” because someone needs to publish books, but actually there is not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria

    I hope every daycare has a complete webcam system to disprove accusations by excited people fired up by Hollyweird fantasies, X files reruns, Twin Peaks, 4chan copypasta or vidya games.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @BB753
    , @dc.sunsets
  161. Kronos says:
    @William Badwhite

    I’d like to see the generational breakdown on the number of transsexuals. There might very well be more boomer trannies then millennials. Keep in mind, the Democratic Party/MSM love this type of “oppression porn.” That they love the idea of fighting for a oppressed group. (But without the worry of high financial costs, see black welfare.) They get to feel self righteous (which is important in the female demographic) and don’t need to pay money.

    The next stop on the Sexual Revolution(s) train might very well be beastality and pedophilia.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @Lot
  162. getaclue says:
    @TTSSYF

    All the “Transgender” lunacy that we know today originates from a Pedo “Doctor” who mutilated children/boys and then had them simulate sex on each other for his enjoyment– Meet Dr. John Money. To say the guy was a world class creep does no justice.

    He did figure out, however, how to get lots of money from some rich Tranny types it seems and endow his “work” with it and John Hopkins just loved that so he could do no wrong–they even let him do surgery where he was a Psychiatrist–a little snip here and there and walla boy is “girl”–yes, money talks….

    You won’t hear about him in the Mainslime Media much if ever because he’s a pig that even lipstick won’t improve and sinks their narrative completely as to how this “Transgender” movement all “organically” and “naturally” came about– can’t mention the Pedo “Father” of it all of course who basically created the entire “new” gender thing all his lonesome….: https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/07/john-money-the-charlatan-godfather-of-the-transgender-movement/?fbclid=IwAR3w5eTOk2iCsVYf7v_iFcb3HctaqwrKmpYIp7jHjd1S1PayJ8zD0JbiQns
    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/dirty-truth-about-man-who-created-the-more-than-2-gender-nonsense.3503299/?fbclid=IwAR1P4tebfD5z7wcvyNhbu5nCjWwPZPHUVqicaiCcEnfdQrexCl0-Eos7JfE

  163. getaclue says:
    @Hail

    “Odd Couple”? They’re a match! Both are total creeps.

  164. @Hail

    It would make a great sitcom setup if Ilhan Omar married Bernie Sanders to gain citizenship, but then an overzealous ICE inspector somehow forced them to live together as man and wife (and was constantly spying on them, Mr. Furley-style, and misunderstanding things he overheard).

    • Replies: @Hail
  165. David says:
    @Hail

    Just about any part of Medea seems to be directly addressing this case. Perhaps the castration of the sons of an ex-husband would be a good retelling of the play for our days.

    Ah, children, hark! She moves again
    Her frozen heart, her sleeping wrath.
    In, quick! And never cross her path,
    Nor rouse that dark eye in its pain;

    • Agree: Hail
  166. BB753 says:
    @El Dato

    If you have a few minutes to spare, please consider the facts:

  167. J.Ross says:
    @kaganovitch

    Because there are many practical simple reasons and pieces of documentary evidence. He’s probably talking about the Finders.
    Consider the irony of Penn and Teller rejecting the possibility of Satanism on the grounds that it doesn’t make internal philosophical sense, these same militant atheists who find that no religion makes any sense, the same Penn who admits somewhere (when asked if there was any understandable religiosity) that he can understand an atheist schoolmate embracing religion upon becoming a parent because after all with kids you now see the value of an invisible, cost-free, omniscient babysitter. What would a pedophile want with that? This isn’t theology. This is closer to Crowley’s observation that if you do certain things you get certain results.
    It is not controversial or theoretical that the deep state was interested in both individual and societal engineering through cults, utopianism, and fringe subcultures in the late midcentury period that saw a cultural revolution, massive domestic terrorism, and a plague of serial killers. It is established in documents that they were at least researching this, and there are relationships of high probability. At one point they were giving prostitutes extreme hallucinogens and then watching the girls work from behind one-way mirrors. How is satanism outlandish compared to that?

  168. @Hapalong Cassidy

    Hemingway committed suicide because:

    1. He was dying of cancer; and

    2. It ran in the family (his father and one of his granddaughters also did it).

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  169. J.Ross says:

    OT – BIGFOOT SINGS THE JEONG SONG
    https://pluralist.com/emma-sulkowicz-dated-conservative/49999/?fbclid=IwAR1XrcI5qG5x21RFy42D5PWC7tVOIuQFd9wAoS3AHQWGwY54AJlTMfdd_qo
    Emily “Mattress Girl” Sulkowicz dating a conservative, starts getting into the NYT’s idea of conservative writers (eg, Drugdan Petersen).

  170. Alfa158 says:
    @Jim Given

    There was a fashion for dressing all babies like girls because Mom thought it looked cute.
    Winston Churchill as a baby:

    By boyhood a boy might be dressed as a fop, but no one is having them masquerade as girls.
    Winston a few years on and already striking the shit-lord pose:

  171. @Jim Given

    Mothers can dress their sons up for various reasons. Anecdotally, my grandmother, a farmer who lived her entire life in the countryside, used to dress my uncle in girl clothes for a number of years. He was born around the time his elder sister died at age 2 and I presume that this was grandma’s way to grieve for the daughter she lost, not knowing better. Uncle went on to live a normal farmer’s life.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @anonymous
  172. TTSSYF says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I managed to snare me one, but I did pay plenty for her from the (gay male) breeder. No pink polish for my girl, but she does have her locks brushed on a regular basis.

    She was worth ever penny…she’s super smart, and I can confirm what the say about poodles having a sense of humor.

  173. @Achmed E. Newman

    Womens’ happiness is at all time lows. It’s not about fishing.

  174. @Jack D

    In some years there have been 121 boys born for every 100 girls in China vs. the worldwide avg. of 104. This is going to lead to a lot of Chinese bachelors in the future.

    If per capita income in China continues to skyrocket, I’d expect a lot of bachelors in poorer neighboring countries.

  175. @Anonymous

    It’s forced in that powerful dads have destroyed both the intiutions that once inclucated good feminine behavior and any and every all-male space.

  176. Barnard says:

    OT: Although I am curious how the NY Times will report on this story. Heidi Beirich is out at the SPLC. Let’s hope whatever rent seekers take over the organization squander the endowment quickly.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/southern-poverty-law-center-intelligence-project-chief-heidi-beirich-stepping-down-in-latest-shakeup

  177. Jack D says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    I really doubt that Pres. Sanders would be personally involved. The FBI would be investigating like crazy on its own and wouldn’t need Sanders’s help. Part of why Trump does these stupid things is that he knows that the Permanent Government is not on his side.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  178. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    My impression is that he was non-political and got dragged into this. Gov. employees who end up in front of these hearings have to engage counsel out of their own pocket (maybe $15K to start) so they don’t end up in jail for “lying to a Federal official”, which is not chump change for someone on a military salary.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  179. Kylie says:
    @The Alarmist

    “If minors as young as seven can express a gender preference, why can’t they smoke, drink, drive cars, and vote?”

    You left out the elephant in the living room.

    Consensual sexual relations.

    I suspect gender preference for minors is, in part, a gateway right.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @The Alarmist
  180. @Kronos

    I’d like to see the generational breakdown on the number of transsexuals. There might very well be more boomer trannies then millennials.

    I suspect you’re correct. I think Steve has had some posts theorizing quite a few trans people come to it later in life (the autogynephilia ones) so that would be boomers now.

    I should have been more precise/clear in my writing. By “generational thing” I meant being friends with trans people. Not only do I not know any trans people, I don’t think I know anyone that does (not sure what my generation is called. I was born in the late 60’s). I don’t think I would unfriend someone that did, but I also can’t see myself just accepting it and pretending they’re now a woman. Also of the women I know (primarily wives of my friends) I’m pretty sure few if any would just go along with it if their husband did it.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  181. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Pithy, Mr. Caesar.
    That would make a good bumper-sticker. I like it.

  182. @William Badwhite

    Probably just another teenage rebellion thing, like wearing a leather jacket, loitering around the park and listening to awful music.
    In the case of trans teenagers it is even more likely to annoy dad and considerably riskier to your future wellbeing if an authority figure gets involved.

    • Agree: Alden
  183. @Jack D

    Lt. Colonel is generally the last stop before an officer needs to become politically savvy (though being politically unsavvy will see you out prior to LTC). It is amusing the original article referred to him as “high-ranking”. A LTC is not high-ranking, but pretty much the definition of middle management. Yet another journalist having no idea what they’re talking about.

    Current base pay for an O-5 with 20 years in is about $105k so retaining a good lawyer is going to hurt his wallet. I’m far from an apologist for Jews, but this guy seems like he was put between a rock and a a hard place. He was subpoenaed, he didn’t volunteer to testify. He almost certainly asked his chain of command what to do and this is what he was told.

  184. Alden says:
    @Cloudbuster

    How would little kids get hold of heroin and syringes?

    Boys favor boys toys and clothes. Girls favor girls toys and clothes. Plenty of clothes, toys and activities appeal to boys and girls. Hovering around grabbing LEGO’s out of girls hands, and craft kits out of boys hands is as bad as forcing dolls on boys and toy guns on girls.

    If your child is a 1 in 10 million gender confused it won’t be obvious till the teens. Until then don’t encourage or bully.

    For 50 years it’s been girls encouraged to be boyish with all these girls sports teams, pants pants pants instead of dresses and skirts, special “ you can be a scientist or engineer “ school programs, Boy Scouts recruiting girls, . The public schools, the women’s magazines, teen & children’sTV shows have been on a turn girls into boys movement for the last 50 years.

    If you paid attention you might have noticed. If you know the parents of K-8 kids, take a look at the school books and reading lists. It’s just masculinization of girls. And sneering at girly girls. Been that way for decades.

    Now it’s the boys turn to be nagged and harassed into girlishness, just as girls were nagged and harassed into T shirts and pants. Long hair is about the only thing that distinguishes 1-10 year old girls from boys the same age.

    Children’s fashion industry had a lot to do with it. Since dresses require much less less labor and fabric than pants and shirt, the change in girls clothes wasn’t driven by profit. It was driven by feminazi ideology

  185. @Liza

    I wonder how many cases we don’t hear about, because both parents favor permanently changing their child into something it’s not supposed to be.

    Divorced parents might agree that their 7-year-old should be able to buy a case of Jack Daniels and an AR-15 and join the Army, but that doesn’t mean the state should permit it. At least the butchered and emotionally destroyed tranny should be able to legally buy an tray full of tequila shots once they’ve realized they have irreparably ruined whatever chance they had at a happy normal life.

    The irreparable self mutilation age should be set at the national drinking age, at least.

    • Agree: Liza
  186. Alden says:
    @Paul Rise

    Boys were dressed as girls right up to about 1920. When toddlers boys factory made inexpensive pants and shirts became available, also colorfast dyes. Before that babies and toddlers wore mostly white because white can be bleached and kept nice and white. Whereas baby clothes that are washed often fade and fade.

    Until then, baby toddler clothes were sewn at home by mom relatives and friends. Until 1850 stitched by hand. That’s a lot of work. A dress is just a long shirt. Less fabric, much less time making dresses for all the little ones than making pants and shirts. Pure practicality

  187. J.Ross says:

    Some of you are alright, don’t go anywhere tomorrow
    After Jordan — the closest thing Israel has to a friendly neighbor — arrested the Israeli ambassador as an illegal trespasser, Israel is closing its diplomatic missions. All of them (note reply to Ukrainian).

    • Replies: @Jack D
  188. Lot says:
    @Anony Trans

    Steve, get ready for the angry ladymen comment flood.

    From the article:

    “Parents completed anxiety and depression measures.”

    So GIGO.

    “My little Luna loves being a girl, just ask me, I will tell you she’s so much happier when I put her in a dress and tape her little wang in while we wait for the surgery.”

    How’s that for “engages the medical research on this topic”?

  189. @El Dato

    “as Microsoft has unexpectedly been handed the 10-billion USD contract for the Pentagon Cloud Infrastructure ”

    Once in a while, government fucks around and shoots itself in the foot. If any IT corporation can bring the Pentagon to a screeching halt, it’s Microsoft.

  190. @JAhd

    I doubt that you would know a libertarian if three of them climbed up your leg and bit you on the dick.

  191. Corvinus says:
    @dc.sunsets

    “The FBI LIED. The tunnels were there, as was forensic evidence of some kind of satanic ritual use. Read it.”

    You have a wild imagination, Astonished.

    In 1990, parents who believed their children had been abused at the preschool hired archeologist E. Gary Stickel to investigate the site. In May 1990, Stickel claimed he found evidence of tunnels, consistent with the children’s accounts, under the McMartin Preschool using ground-penetrating radar. Others have disagreed with Stickel’s conclusions. John Earl wrote in 1995 that the concrete slab floor was undisturbed except for a small patch where the sewer line was tapped into. Once the slab was removed, there was no sign of any materials to line or hold up any tunnels, and the concrete floor would have made it impossible for the defendants to fill in any tunnels once the abuse investigation began. The article concluded that disturbed soil under the slab was from the sewer line and construction fill buried under the slab before it was poured. Further, Earl noted that some fill from beneath the concrete slab was dated to the year 1940. W. Joseph Wyatt’s 2002 report concluded that the so-called tunnels under the preschool were more plausibly explained as a rubbish pit used by the owners of the site before the preschool’s construction in 1966. Materials found during the excavation included bottles, tin cans, plywood, inner tubes, as well as the former owner’s old mail box. Only three small items found near the edge of the concrete slab were dated after 1966, which Wyatt suggested were most likely dragged into the pit by rats or other scavengers. Moreover, Wyatt speculated that Stickel’s conclusions were colored by his collaboration with the parents of the McMartin children.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @dc.sunsets
  192. @Scoopy

    I never did understand the moral horror at sterilizing retarded people. The 1927 SCOTUS decision in Buck v. Bell permitting compulsory sterilization of the unfit, including the intellectually disabled, did not violate the Constitution. As Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., famously wrote, “Three generations of imbeciles are enough.”

    This is now considered one of the many “dark chapters” in America’s history. I guess the politically correct opinion is that three generations of imbeciles are not enough.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Desiderius
  193. Lot says:
    @Kronos

    Goat simulator has nothing to do with bestiality. You play a goat who walks into houses and other buildings and randomly destroys the furniture. Like GTA but much less violent.

    It’s free and pretty fun for 10-15 minutes.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  194. Was it Tesla who said “You will live to see horrors beyond comprehension?”

    GriftRight and probably 99% of the GOP ignored this until the last possible moment because it absolutely threatened their grift. Definitely a lose lose because it deals with icky cultural issues which means they might get made fun of on SNL but if they don’t then they get outed as powerless court eunuchs.

    Michael Anton’s lackluster reply to BAP underscores the problem with the system he’s defending: if it allows the mutilation of a child how good can it be? Instead he makes half his article “BAM might cause mass shooters!”, banging on about French mercenaries, and then
    demands to know what BAP has to replace Globohomo Imperium.

    Robert Denard, if in charge, likely would have had a short sharp answer to mutilating a 7 year old. And that’s the crux Anton avoids: the piece of paper you worship allows this. Shit, Joaquim Guzman would have probably had an issue with 7 year old transsexuals. So the question to Anton would be “How do you defend a system that allows this?” and the answer is not “Roll the dice on a 5-4 decision and hope for the best from the High Priests of the Constitution. “

  195. @Jack D

    ” His oath is to the United States, not to Donald Trump personally. ”

    Wrong. His oath is to the Constitution of the United States and to the President and to his superior officers in the chain of command. That means to Donald Trump, personally., for as long as he is in the military and Trump is President.

    Oath of Enlistment

    Oath of Enlistment Download Poster

    I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    , @Jack D
  196. Kronos says:
    @William Badwhite

    I’m aware of only one trans (woman to man) at work. “He” specifically joined the company based on healthcare benefits that’ll pay the bulk of “transition” costs. He appears like a nice enough fellow. He hates religious people with a passion though. Both of us are Millennials.

    One thing that’s odd is that many of the transgender whites I’ve encountered appear to be of WASP ancestry. I’ve often wondered if gender confusion was a fairly common polygenic mutation in English populations. Akin to how Jews have predispositions to genetic diseases (Tay Sachs and such.)

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  197. Trutherator says: • Website
    @Hypnotoad666

    Maybe that’s what initiated the troubles that ended with his suicide?

  198. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    They used an egg donor with his sperm to conceive the twins.

  199. Kronos says:
    @Lot

    I know, I just thought it was a great photo shot for my discussion context.

    (Maybe the goat is on a rampage against humans for revenge?)

  200. @Twodees Partain

    He is correct — the Oath of Commissioned Officers is different, and yes, they are only obligated to uphold the Constitution.

    U.S. Code § 3331. Oath of office

    An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

    The key here is President Trump is the legitimate, legally elected Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces as outlined in the Constitution. So military officers do not have some magic ability to disobey his orders or secretly work against him, unless his actions are unconstitutional. And although the Democrats are trying mightily to make it seem that way, Trump’s actions are not. And quite frankly, if a military officer second guesses the president on constitutional matters and is found wrong, his/her commission should be revoked immediately. This is not a matter to be taken lightly — the entire discipline of the officer corps depends on it.

  201. @Anony Trans

    In my experience, women are not more “sympathetic by nature.”

  202. Jack D says:
    @Food for thought

    In the past, children below a certain age were not really thought of a being gendered and wore the same clothes. In German (and Yiddish), the word for child is of the neuter gender. This whole business of pink for girls and blue for boys is of recent (and commercial) origin. And we live in a highly sexualized culture despite (or maybe because of) feminism.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  203. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben tillman

    >Texas doesn’t have family courts or criminal courts.

    Perhaps not constitutionally or legislatively, but all of the large-population counties do in fact have specialized courts. Dallas County calls them districts.

    See here for instance:

    https://www.dallascounty.org/government/courts/

  204. Jack D says:
    @Twodees Partain

    If Vindman violated his oath, he will be court martialed and dishonorably discharged, but he won’t because he didn’t.

    I agree that his testimony was pointless and a Democrat publicity stunt, given that we have already heard [or at least seen the transcript] of what he heard . But that’s not his fault – he was called to testify and he did.

  205. @Nicholas Stix

    He had a hundred physical problems. For instance, figuratively every bone in his body had been broken at one time or another in car and plane crashes.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  206. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    You have no idea what you are talking about. Arresting an ambassador would break diplomatic convention and would be tantamount to an act of war. No such thing happened. The most that can be done is that the ambassador can be declared persona non grata and asked to leave the country.

    Jordan on Tuesday announced it was recalling ITS ambassador to Israel for consultations to protest Israel’s detention of a pair of Jordanians who have been held without charges for the past two months.

    Completely separately, Israel’s embassies are closed due to some sort of bureaucratic cat fight/ pay dispute between their Ministry of Finance and their Foreign Ministry. I’m sure the impasse will be broken in a few days. This has nothing to do with the spat with Jordan, which I’m also sure will get resolved.

    Or maybe this is the beginning of the end of the Zionist Entity? The first crack in the feet of clay and soon it will all topple. In your dreams, bubbele, in your dreams.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  207. @obwandiyag

    Hemingway had bad luck or bad judgment or something and was constantly getting hurt.

    Film director John Huston, who was likely about as similar of a personality as anybody to a unique figure like Hemingway, had the opposite luck. Despite a lifetime of adventure, fistfights, elephant hunting, chimpanzee-owning, etc etc, Huston was almost never injured, and enjoyed, after wasting much of his middle aged prime, a productive old age, finishing an acclaimed movie, The Dead, in his 80s.

  208. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I never did understand the moral horror at sterilizing retarded people.

    There is no moral horror at sterilizing retarded people, but many retarded people are retarded for nongenetic reasons: still, any normal child they would have will have a pretty bad upbringing if they have a child.

    Sterilizing mentally competent but below average IQ or marginally criminal or deviant people against their will would be problematic, as they say, but I can see no harm in offering them incentives to do this. Serious criminals should be sterilized at the discretion of the penal State for several reasons.

    If the US imploded and the Chinese magically took over, you’d know how they would deal with the underclass black dysfunction: they’d “literally” decimate the blacks, e.g, cull the bottom decile in terms of antisociality or dysfunctionality. (We all know, as Jeff Cooper reiterated numerous times, that the Roman decimation was when ten percent of the military formation were killed as a punitive measure. ) We are not Chinese, and the blacks ought to be grteful for that, but the serious trigger pulling gangbangers creating most of the terror should be dealt with with ruthless vigor and serious punishment dealt out to chronic offenders-which our system of incarceration does not do.

  209. It is certainly a point worth making that courts should not accept the “expertise” of anyone who makes money out of promoting sex change, or providing sex change services, surgery, or anything of that type.

    • Replies: @Alden
  210. @Jack D

    In the past, children below a certain age were not really thought of a being gendered and wore the same clothes. In German (and Yiddish), the word for child is of the neuter gender.

    Their is a difference between the sex of mammals and grammatical gender. The German word for girl “madchen” is neuter, because all diminutives ending in -chen are neuter in gender.

    Americans cause a lot of confusion, because they mostly don’t understand that sex and grammatical gender are not the same thing.

    I suppose that you can be of the male sex, but make a conscious decision to act and present yourself as a woman, but a castrated man is not a woman. A castrated man is a eunuch–a person with a Y chromosome in every cell of his body, but with the sexual organs amputated.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Alden
  211. Roger says:
    @Anony Trans

    Thanks for the link, but the article doesn’t show any benefit to the transgender affirming. It merely shows that this particular sample of kids was not doing as badly as expected. Also it does not address long-term effects.

    • Replies: @Alden
  212. @Harry Baldwin

    They just accomplish the same end Jaffe Memo/Planned Parenthood style. Evidently decided plausible deniability was worth the general erosion of morals/morale, not least honesty.

  213. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    >it’s not anything stereotypical
    >it’s merely a protest over not getting paid

    • Replies: @Jack D
  214. @Fred C Dobbs

    Ohh sweet meteor of death…..where art thou? Seriously…if this is what the future portends – just end it all now.

    Friend Fred….in these troubled times, I recommend that you start praying….to be eaten…first!

    https://jackchick.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/chick-parody-who-will-be-eaten-first/

    Well, actually, you’re going to be eaten second, after yours truly, but you still won’t be as bad off as the rest of these maroons when the stars are right and the Elder Gods return!

  215. Jack D says:
    @Corvinus

    You have a wild imagination, Astonished.

    I’ve long since ceased to be astonished by some of the shit that people here believe. The internet (especially relatively open sites such as this one) attracts crackpots like a fresh pile of steaming dung attracts flies.

  216. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    And chairs and clocks are not male and female (respectively) either but have grammatical gender. Nevertheless I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the German word for maiden is neuter.

  217. @Steve Sailer

    So Huston’s life was a fantasy camp, like Kramer’s:

  218. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Right, because there are never any labor disputes in Gentile countries.

  219. anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Food for thought

    Well, also, guys, from a practical point of view, a dress makes it a hell of a lot easier in those pre-elastic days to access the diaper when a change is needed. I would not read too much into this stuff about baby boys in dresses.

  220. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    In this case, the 11 jurors accepted the nonsensical expertise. But the judge didn’t and made a sensible decision. That’s the thing about Family Court Judges. They’ve heard it all and their guiding rule is best interests of the child.

    Criminal and civil court judges can be whacko but generally Family Court Judges are sensible.

    • LOL: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Autochthon
  221. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Reason Americans don’t understand the difference between biological sex and grammatical gender is because the schools have been teaching that sex and gender mean the same thing for more than 50 years.

    And if you say sex instead gender in the workplace you’ll be sent to HR for re education sessions

  222. Alden says:
    @Roger

    Read it too and agree with you. Leave them alone.

  223. Hail says: • Website
    @Daniel Williams

    Plot twist: Through a series of comic misunderstandings, Bernie ends up accidentally but formally converting to Islam. Bernie becomes a practicing Muslim to placate the ICE man on their case.

    • LOL: Daniel Williams
  224. @Jack D

    Up until now, the US has had a more or less bipartisan foreign policy and the President usually didn’t try to involve foreign powers in partisan politics.

    Evidently you haven’t been following the revelations regarding the Russia-collusion hoax. The Obama administration involved several foreign countries in partisan politics. More importantly, in the past private conversations between presidents and foreign leaders were not leaked by Deep State agents in an attempt to undermine them, so we will never know what went on, will we?

  225. JohnnyD says:

    Whenever my overbearing Jewish mother drives me nuts, I tell myself “at least she didn’t try to chemically castrate me.”

  226. We don’t allow children to have sex, but we should allow them to change sex?

  227. Jordi says:
    @Scoopy

    “diversity is stength”

    As you said, there are statements that “we” consider “self-evident on the penalty of ostracism” today. Spending millions on selective reproductive control rather than billions on welfare would be one of the most society-improving policies any country could take in the long term.

    But discussing it is staboo, and this policy would need at least 15 years to yield the first tangible benefit..

    Just look at China , its economic miracle and the blunt one-child policy.

  228. @Dennis Dale

    It’s “were”

    Don’t tell me, tell Jeff Besos, whose device changed it on me along with his name.

    Tell me again why you can force white people to pay for sterilizations, but not force other people to undergo them? China does it.

    White people have less of a right to object to being pushed around? In that case, it is quite analogous to the draft-whites-not-blacks policy used by both sides in the Civil War, if not WWI.

  229. @Hypnotoad666

    With apologies to Pete Townshend:

    The Who: “I’m a Boy” (1966)

    One girl was called Jean Marie
    Another little girl was called Felicity
    Another little girl was Sally Joy
    The other was me, and I’m a boy

    My name is Bill and I’m a head-case
    They practice making-up on my face
    Yeah I feel lucky if I get trousers to wear
    Spend ages taking hairpins from my hair

    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    But my ma won’t admit it
    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    But if I say I am – I get it!

    Put your frock on, Jean Marie
    Plait your hair, Felicity
    Paint your nails, little Sally Joy
    Put this wig on, little boy

    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    But my ma won’t admit it
    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    But if I say I am – I get it!

    I wanna play cricket on the green
    Ride my bike across the stream
    Cut myself and see my blood
    I wanna come home all covered in mud

    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    But my ma won’t admit it
    I’m a boy, I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    I’m a boy, I’m a boy, I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    I’m a boy, I’m a boy
    I’M… A… BOY!

  230. @jsm

    When people are such losers that they can’t care for their own children, why on Earth would we want to pay those people to raise their kids? The kids should be made wards of the State and raised in orphanages.
    I have the same thought when I see grandparents raising their grandchildren because their own children are worthless. Having raised loser children isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of their parenting skills – good luck getting it right this time, grandpa!

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  231. @Steve Sailer

    Huston was almost never injured, and enjoyed, after wasting much of his middle aged prime, a productive old age

    An interviewer once asked him to what he attributed his long, active life. He told her, “Surgery.”

  232. @Jack D

    And chairs and clocks are not male and female (respectively) either but have grammatical gender.

    Pop linguist Gaston Dorren says the following conversation is valid in his native Dutch:

    “She has pretty legs.”
    “Yes, he does. ”

    To clarify, one speaker is Dutch and the other Flemish, and they’re discussing a table. They use different words for table in the Netherlands and Belgium, and those words are of different gender.

    Kind of like Americans say bathroom and Canadians washroom, except those are both “rooms” and would have the same gender, if English had any gender. Perhaps the British toilet or WC is a better example.

  233. @Jack D

    Nevertheless I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the German word for maiden is neuter.

    Hmmm.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mädchen

    Mädchen is typically used to refer to young women up to the age of 20 (or 25 at most).

    Ja, ja, nothing feminine to see here:

  234. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Whoops. Correction: Jack D, my second block quote was meant to be original to my comment; I wasn’t quoting you. Disambiguation is key! Unless making joke.

  235. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    I’m pretty sure that if this was President Sanders and he was asking Ukraine to investigate the Trump family and a WASP officer reported it, you’d be calling him a great patriot, etc. and complaining about how the Jew President was selling out the United States for his own personal interests.

    No. As far as I’m concerned, Trump IS selling out the United Statesfor his own personal interests. But this Ukraine stuff is BS. We owe Ukraine precisely zippo, nada, jack.squat. Whether they do, or do not get their graft, is no grounds for impeachment. And Trump was right to prod them into investigating the Biden family’s shady dealings there.

    This is all just who-whom on your part.

    Projection. It is ALL who/whom for you.

  236. Mr. Anon says:
    @Kylie

    I suspect gender preference for minors is, in part, a gateway right.

    I suspect you are right. And that is likely why this obscenity is being promoted as much as it is in certain quarters.

  237. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Funkerlied (German Radio Operators’ Song)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  238. @Jack D

    The law is probably broken a lot, but it need not be broken for the same outcome. It’s enough if families with a male firstborn tend to not have a second child, while families with a female firstborn tend to have. This would still result in the same gender imbalance.

  239. @Rahan

    To be honest, I’m not sure how normies don’t connect these things. Instead, I have friends and relatives in supposedly based Hungary who are now swallowing this tranny bullshit (transgender children included) hook, line, and sinker. I suspect things will be getting way worse before getting better.

    Globohomo rule cannot last forever, because Globohomo is self-destructive, but it’s far from being anywhere close to collapse.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  240. @Jack D

    I walked into my German secretary’s office one day only to find her standing at and staring out the window, so I asked what was up, and she told me, “I’m waiting for him to warm up.” I thought that was a rather personal revelation, as we weren’t on a “duzen” basis, so when she saw my look of bewilderment she explained “I mean the copier,” which stood between her and the window.

  241. @donvonburg

    I personally think that, come the Revolution, anyone involved in this and things like that should be treated like Dr. Mengele. Because obviously there’s no difference between Dr. Mengele and a “doctor” who “treats” children like this. (What ever happened to the Hippocratic Oath?)

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  242. TTSSYF says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Agreed. And even if it were 100% reversible (which I don’t believe), at the very least, it robs them of their teenage years. There’s no backing up and re-living them.

    Yes, it’s amusing how many SJWs will rail on and on about the evils of hormone-fed livestock, genetically-modified fruits or vegetables, or cigarette smoking but who don’t have any problem with young children being pumped full of hormone blockers or hormones that diametrically oppose their birth sex, or with smoking pot on a regular basis. Intellectual consistency is not really their thing.

  243. Anonymous[790] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Cheap virtue-signalling, as there’s no danger of Indians coming back and pushing Canadians out of ‘their’ country. (Eskimos are another matter. I wouldn’t be surprised if white people get kicked out of ‘Nunavut’ at some time in the future.)

  244. BB753 says:
    @Paul

    I doubt many of these poor trans-kids will reach full adulthood and mental sanity, let alone thirty years of age.

  245. @kaganovitch

    Try “pentagram.” Look, if I know it’s a long document full of filler. But I read your comment as dismissive, as if (1) no satanism, so it’s a nothingburger, and (2) you ignore that it was the CIA (THE CIA!!) that did all the redactions and that the entire Finder’s case was classified as SECRET.

    What.
    The.
    [—-]?

    We exist in a world so stuffed with disinformation (the most brilliant of which was the CIA’s invention and dissemination of the term “Conspiracy Theorist” as an effective means of discrediting anyone who peers down the Rabbit Hole) that dismissive comments read to me as either “sock puppet” or somnolent.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  246. @El Dato

    I’m glad you could dismiss this so eloquently, without actually bothering to look at the source document I linked, and could go on to cite the most useless website on Earth as an authority on any controversial topic.

    Truth is stranger than fiction, but some folks simply lack the bandwith to notice when their minds are being guided. As I note elsewhere, preemptive disinformation campaigns are of extraordinarily obvious utility when it comes to establishing what can and cannot be “believed.”

    1. The tunnels were there.
    2. The FBI’s press release(s) were fiction.
    3. The CIA (of all organizations) did the redactions on the document release.

    As far as I can tell, your notion that this is a nothingburger is actually funny.

  247. @Corvinus

    You have a wild imagination, Astonished.

    You are apparently illiterate, Corry.

    Go.
    Read.
    The.
    Documents.

    This is a one-off for me, since I know you have an obsession with me and for some strange reason feel compelled to “answer” my comments everywhere on unz.com, but I find it amusing that you and others dismiss my comment without so much as referencing a document located on the FBI.gov website.

    To use a wonderful term of disinformation coined by the Central Intelligence Agency, the “conspiracy theorist” in me wonders if people like you comment as part of an organized system to discredit any kind of “off-limits” thinking. I suppose it could be spontaneous…but there’s a lot of loot sloshing around this world, and numerous philosophers have noted how in a dictatorship the rulers don’t care what people think, but in an ostensibly “free” country there will be astronomical efforts to “guide” what members of the public “know” and believe.

    I’d ask you to explain to me why it was the CIA that did the redactions in the document, but since I intend to go back to ignoring all your comments that would be a waste of time.

    I know better anyway. You’re a rhetorician…a sophist. You’d just change the topic/focus. That’s what you do. To plagiarize another, “you’re not my audience.” And I’m not yours.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  248. @san joaquin sam

    A study published this year in the journal Family Court Review looked at 10 cases in the United States in which mothers had taken an “affirming” approach to their transgender or gender-nonconforming child, and then had their custody rights challenged by partners who disagreed with that approach.

    All 10 of the women described being blamed by their former partners for “causing” the children to assert transgender identities. Court officials in the cases were frequently unfamiliar with the concept, and some of the mothers lost custody.

    Roissy pointed out a few years ago already that Western women are in the midst of a massive social-wide mental breakdown. He was right, and this observation was before the Trump era.

    Note also the way that the Sulzberger blog frames this issue. Apparently children have two parents — a mother, and a “former partner.”

  249. @Anonymous

    Vindman. Jew?

    The Jewish Daily Forward seems to think so:

    Refugee Jewish Vet Testifying On Impeachment Has Loyalty Questioned On Fox, CNN

    After reports emerged that National Security Council member Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was set to testify to Congress about his discomfort with President Trump’s Ukraine policy and actions, conservative commentators began implying that Vindman, a Jewish former refugee from Ukraine, was disloyal to the United States.

    And Giuliani’s two “Ukrainian” buddies? Of course.

  250. @dc.sunsets

    The FBI LIED. The tunnels were there, as was forensic evidence of some kind of satanic ritual use.

    That’s just a “conspiracy theory,” goy.

    As was the Franklin Credit Union case, Dutroux, Aquino, the Westminster pedophile dossier, Janner, Savile…

    Nothing to see here.

  251. @Macumazahn

    When people are such losers that they can’t care for their own children, why on Earth would we want to pay those people to raise their kids?

    This is such an obviously sensible policy that there is no chance it will be adopted. The people being paid to be sterilized/not reproduce would mostly be black and nothing can be done that hurts the feelings of black people even if doing so would make society far better off.

    Multiple generations of welfare parasites and violent criminals, allowing the destruction of entire cities, the vulgarization of so much pop culture…no price is too high to pay to coddle the feelings of blacks. Everyone’s interests must be subordinated to placating the blacks. Slavery Tax forever and ever.

  252. Corvinus says:
    @dc.sunsets

    I have read the documents. There were subsequent investigations of those tunnels, as I specifically outlined, and you are choosing not to believe what was unearthed.

    “This is a one-off for me, since I know you have an obsession with me…”

    I will admit, projection is your strong suit.

    “I’d ask you to explain to me why it was the CIA that did the redactions in the document, but since I intend to go back to ignoring all your comments that would be a waste of time.”

    I assume that you believe the CIA was engaging in a cover-up, right?

    You’re a rhetorician…a sophist. You’d just change the topic/focus.”

    “I’m not the one who posted under another name, Astonished, in an effort to peddle your wares. And I engage in rhetoric and dialectic when the situation calls for it.

  253. Alden says:
    @Autochthon

    Never been in a courtroom in your life in any capacity have you?

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  254. @dc.sunsets

    Look, if I know it’s a long document full of filler. But I read your comment as dismissive, as if (1) no satanism, so it’s a nothingburger, and (2) you ignore that it was the CIA (THE CIA!!) that did all the redactions and that the entire Finder’s case was classified as SECRET.

    My comment was not meant to be dismissive. Pedophilia/child molestation on an organized scale is objectively Satanic ,whether Beelzebub is invoked in ceremonies or not. I scruple though,at your conclusion that this means the Satanic ritual abuse panic of the 80’s was something other than mass hysteria. We know the therapists involved were charlatans with long and dodgy histories, we know that small children are very, very suggestible , we know that prosecutorial abuse was rife in all of the prominent preschool cases. I’m sure a Jew somewhere once poisoned a well. That doesn’t mean that Jewish malice is an adequate or reasonable explanation of the Black Death. What’s more, the accused in the preschool cases were not Jeffrey Epstein high flyer types, but small business owners with no mysterious connections. As witness, note how quickly the legal process drove them into bankruptcy and indigence. They had no networks of like minded perverts to come to their assistance.

    I’m ready to believe just about anything about the CIA, which is an entirely amoral institution that has regularly engaged in drug trafficking , gun running and many other unsavory activities. That being said, it’s not necessary to posit a Skull and Bones fraternity of Satanists to explain the CIA’s actions in the Finders case. It is sufficient to posit that one or more of the figures involved, was useful to them somehow either voluntarily or through blackmail, which leverage would be lost if it became common/public knowledge. That the collateral damage of their actions would be the continued abuse and degradation of children would not trouble them at all . As they have demonstrated many times they are entirely amoral.

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  255. Neoconned says:
    @JAhd

    No not really, dunno how you went that low. Btw, i only swing libertarian on some things…..and all those things involve CONSENTING ADULTS and NOT child molesters….

  256. Neoconned says:
    @William Badwhite

    They’re more work friends….although 1 friend I know from Comic Con…..i don’t hang out with them on a regular basis but if I run into them at a restaurant or Wal-Mart or what have you I wave and say hi.

    I’ve met plenty of people with bizarre sex fetishes and hang ups.

    I was at a low point once in my life and I learned the value of not judging people on their flaws so long as they arent sex offenders or psycho killers etc…..in other words unless they’re sick violent crooks I dont judge ppl because I dont like being judged myself by others but to each their own.

  257. Neoconned says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    People self mutilate amd get weird tats and piercings and body alterations all the time.

    I dont judge it from a moral view, thats God’s job.

    I Do agree with you “in spirit” but I’ve seen so many flawed and f-ed up people in my time I dont judge.

  258. @Alden

    I’m a lawyer, you stupid bitch. I go into courtrooms every few weeks.

    Not that it has anything to so with the topic at hand, to which you’ve made no response. Go make someone a sandwich.

    A: “I hereby make an empirically untrue, sweeping generalisation: Penguins fly.

    B: “That statement is empirically untrue. Here is some evidence supporting my position that is empirically untrue, including videography and studies by zoologists”

    A: “You have obviously never been to Antarctica, jackass.”

    B: “Many years ago, iSteve’s commentariat was mostly frequented by intelligent people who, if they disagreed, engaged in logical debates.”

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  259. @Kronos

    You are using the wrong pronoun to write about your mentally ill, female friend: she is the third person, singular pronoun for women – even the mentally ill ones who mutilate themselves.

  260. BB753 says:
    @kaganovitch

    You don’t believe in facts, do you?

  261. @reiner Tor

    Come the Revolution, most of us reading this may well have gone on to our eternal reward.

    Which for people doing this, won’t be too desirable.

  262. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Being abusive to women just isn’t the done thing. When they say nutty things you just ignore them, like an occasional backfire from a Brass Era car or a pet caracal that occasionally snatches a desirable songbird out of the air.

    • LOL: Autochthon
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