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From the New York Times:

Authorities believe the conspirators were building bombs to detonate in vans in a massive attack on targets in Barcelona, including the Sagrada Familia, the city’s most famous landmark, according to a U.S. security official who has read Spanish intelligence reports.

The vast church, likely the most famous building under construction in the world, is the masterpiece of Art Nouveau architect Antoni Guadi (1852-1926).

Although it long languished without funds to complete it over the last 135 years, it now gets 3 million visitors per year, which covers its construction budget.

Much of ISIS Era jihadi terrorism has taken place at tourist attractions. If you want a list of likely future targets, just Google Top European Tourist Attractions:

Screenshot 2017-08-22 18.32.06

Gaudi’s church is #3 after The Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum. I suspect, though, that St. Peter’s would be high on the terrorism target list.

 
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  1. OT

    A run-of-the-mill adjunct professor of statistics at Columbia had his Google accounts deleted by the Google secret police. He doesn’t know why and Google isn’t saying. Google has since restored his accounts without a serious explanation.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/20052/its-math-statistics-professor-temporarily-banned-hank-berrien

    I suspect it was because he posted this.

    http://statisticalideas.blogspot.com/2017/01/futile-justice-statistics.html?m=1

    (Not at all sure about this, since he posted the above in January.)

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  2. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    St. Peter’s security is not good. The security at the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran (the Pope’s actual ecclesiastical seat) is almost nonexistent when the Pope isn’t there.

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  3. iSteve:

    For a moment I was worried that the terrorists had targeted this famous Spanish neo-Classical Revival art work (Cecilia Gimenez’ clumsy restoration of a fading fresco painting of Christ “Ecce Homo” (behold the man) that has become a tourist cult object).

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19349921

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  4. ia says:

    In Islam they replace the defeated god’s monuments with their own. They will put a Mosque there. Westerner’s use pop culture, blacks, and feminist decadent mass media to the same effect. It sure worked in the USA. But Islam is proving a tough nut to crack.

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    • Replies: @Kevin C.
    Yeah, caught in the middle between two fanatical, absolutist "convert, submit, or die" religions, both of whom like to destroy the monuments of defeated peoples. We're in "choose the form of the Destructor" territory here..
    , @fitzGetty
    ... who can forget the brazen attempt to establish a mosque close to ground zero -- in the weeks following 9/11 ?
  5. So wait, you’re saying that, unlike what The New Yorker says, these terrorists weren’t inspired by Charlottesville?

    Today’s attack [in Barcelona] may have had Islamist extremism as its motivation, but, coming on the heels of Saturday’s lethal car attack against a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia—which was carried out by a young neo-Nazi American—it cannot be viewed in isolation. Terrorists inspire one another, and mimic each other’s behavior, as well.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/barcelona-tourists-become-terrorisms-latest-victims

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    • Replies: @Lurker

    Like all public policy issues, leaving immigration out of the equation and the decline in human capital and social capital is a disaster.
     
    Indeed, because until a week ago, no Islamic terrorist had stumbled upon the use of vehicles as a weapon!

    However they've already refined the method. Stale, male US terrorists crash their cars into stationary vehicles whereas Muslims already seem to know that actually driving at people is much more effective.
  6. Ivy says:

    Reconquista theme may play a role in the choice of the Sagrada Familia target, given ancient enmities. A chance to lash out at Spain, EU, Christianity in one event.

    Recall #JeSuisCharlesMartel, add your own.

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  7. Jake says:

    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal loves him some Moslems, as much he loves him some Jews, some gays, some abortionists, some women-ordaining Mainline Protestants. Pope Francis the Peronist liberal most despises truly orthodox Catholics, with conservative Protestants a close second.

    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal asserts that you, Steve, are a HATER for suggesting that the maligned Moslems would even consider attacking the Vatican.

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    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal loves him some Moslems, as much he loves him some Jews, some gays, some abortionists, some women-ordaining Mainline Protestants. Pope Francis the Peronist liberal most despises truly orthodox Catholics, with conservative Protestants a close second.
     
    And yet ... still a higher form of life than Paul Ryan.
  8. Cortes says:

    Gaudi’s masterpiece is the house on Passeig de Gracia.

    I used to work round the corner from it.

    This one:

    http://www.bestplacesinspain.com/994/casa-mila-la-pedrera-a-gaudi-building-barcelona/

    La Sagrada Familia =Disneyesque.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    Indeed, why are they building a cathedral in this day and age of declining church attendance? I mean, I don't have anything against it, but I am puzzled nonetheless.
  9. gruff says:

    Well Gaudi was probably racist, so you can’t really blame them.

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  10. Tiny Duck says:

    Things would be so much easier if everyone converted to Islam or didn’t throw Christianity in everyone’s faces

    People of Color are sick and tired of white christians making the world unlivabke

    It’s about time they fought back against white supremacy

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    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Troll: German_reader
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Do you realize that if everyone in the world converted to Islam, that white Muslims would take over and rule the entire Muslim world community due to their natural superiority? Be careful what you wish for.
    , @nebulafox
    Wait. So Christianity is intrinsically white?

    If you ever go to the Philippines, South Korea, certain parts of Nigeria, or the Congo, you are going to be one sad, sad little SJW. You'll probably also be rather disappointed to see Bosnia, too, now that I think about it.

  11. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Why do the French hate America? We helped them.

    Everyone depends on a somewhat christian scientific West to provide everything modern to them. So what do we get for this service? Hatred and demonization.

    Men help women with everything dirty and deadly, Christian Anglos drive a stake through Hitler’s Heart. What is the respective female and Jewish response to their helpers? Utter contempt just like the French react to Americans or actually far worse.

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  12. utu says:

    In Spanish Civil War in 1936-1939 period 8 thousand priests, monks and nuns were murdered. 20,000 churches (50% in Spain) were destroyed.

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  13. MJMD says:

    The one thing that gives me hope is that the Islamists can’t possibly be as bad as the Spanish/Catalans themselves were when it comes to this sort of thing: from Hugh Thomas’s The Spanish Civil War,

    “[In 1936] [a]lmost all the fifty-eight churches of Barcelona save the cathedral (preserved by order of the Generalidad) were burned. Some were ruined, others, such as the lovely Santa Maria del Mar, merely damaged. Much valuable petrol was wasted in an attempt to burn Gaudi’s unfinished Sagrada Familia, which was, alas, made of cement.”

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  14. Lot says:

    There was already a car bomb attempt to blow up Notre Dame de Paris. It just failed to detonate.

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  15. MEH 0910 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Things would be so much easier if everyone converted to Islam or didn't throw Christianity in everyone's faces

    People of Color are sick and tired of white christians making the world unlivabke

    It's about time they fought back against white supremacy

    Do you realize that if everyone in the world converted to Islam, that white Muslims would take over and rule the entire Muslim world community due to their natural superiority? Be careful what you wish for.

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  16. Jack D says:

    The Guinness Storehouse is #13, which is hilarious in itself – a brewery tour among the priceless cathedrals and museums. But maybe the Muslims would like to blow it up because it contains alcohol?

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  17. Lurker says:
    @candid_observer
    So wait, you're saying that, unlike what The New Yorker says, these terrorists weren't inspired by Charlottesville?

    Today’s attack [in Barcelona] may have had Islamist extremism as its motivation, but, coming on the heels of Saturday’s lethal car attack against a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia—which was carried out by a young neo-Nazi American—it cannot be viewed in isolation. Terrorists inspire one another, and mimic each other’s behavior, as well.

     

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/barcelona-tourists-become-terrorisms-latest-victims

    Like all public policy issues, leaving immigration out of the equation and the decline in human capital and social capital is a disaster.

    Indeed, because until a week ago, no Islamic terrorist had stumbled upon the use of vehicles as a weapon!

    However they’ve already refined the method. Stale, male US terrorists crash their cars into stationary vehicles whereas Muslims already seem to know that actually driving at people is much more effective.

    Read More
  18. @Cortes
    Gaudi's masterpiece is the house on Passeig de Gracia.

    I used to work round the corner from it.

    This one:

    http://www.bestplacesinspain.com/994/casa-mila-la-pedrera-a-gaudi-building-barcelona/

    La Sagrada Familia =Disneyesque.

    Indeed, why are they building a cathedral in this day and age of declining church attendance? I mean, I don’t have anything against it, but I am puzzled nonetheless.

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    • Replies: @MJMD
    Because, as mentioned in Steve's previous post about it, it's the last ongoing project in the style of Mediaeval cathedral-building, having been started in the 19th century (when church attendance was obviously much higher). The other cathedral of Barcelona, Cathedral of the Holy Cross and Saint Eulalia, also took almost two centuries to build, with additional decades of work in the 19th Century to erect its current Gothic facade.
  19. MJMD says:
    @International Jew
    Indeed, why are they building a cathedral in this day and age of declining church attendance? I mean, I don't have anything against it, but I am puzzled nonetheless.

    Because, as mentioned in Steve’s previous post about it, it’s the last ongoing project in the style of Mediaeval cathedral-building, having been started in the 19th century (when church attendance was obviously much higher). The other cathedral of Barcelona, Cathedral of the Holy Cross and Saint Eulalia, also took almost two centuries to build, with additional decades of work in the 19th Century to erect its current Gothic facade.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    At this point the church is highly profitable selling tickets at $17 to $22 per tour.

    I've never been to Barcelona, but Sagrada Familia has become one of the world's greatest tourist attractions.

    , @Anonymous
    Well, you've got Liverpool's (England) 'modernistic' Roman Catholic cathedral built in the 1960s and 'christened' by some rather unkind wags with the moniker 'Paddy's Wigwam' which has stuck ever since.
    The 'innovative' design has been plagued with structural problems and water ingress ever since.
    Apparently, back in the 1920s and 30s the diocese of Liverpool had plans for a 'monster' cathedral, built in stone in the 'traditional' style which would have dwarfed St. Peter's in size.
  20. Kevin C. says:
    @ia
    In Islam they replace the defeated god's monuments with their own. They will put a Mosque there. Westerner's use pop culture, blacks, and feminist decadent mass media to the same effect. It sure worked in the USA. But Islam is proving a tough nut to crack.

    Yeah, caught in the middle between two fanatical, absolutist “convert, submit, or die” religions, both of whom like to destroy the monuments of defeated peoples. We’re in “choose the form of the Destructor” territory here..

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  21. @MJMD
    Because, as mentioned in Steve's previous post about it, it's the last ongoing project in the style of Mediaeval cathedral-building, having been started in the 19th century (when church attendance was obviously much higher). The other cathedral of Barcelona, Cathedral of the Holy Cross and Saint Eulalia, also took almost two centuries to build, with additional decades of work in the 19th Century to erect its current Gothic facade.

    At this point the church is highly profitable selling tickets at $17 to $22 per tour.

    I’ve never been to Barcelona, but Sagrada Familia has become one of the world’s greatest tourist attractions.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    From that photo it reminds me of termite mounds on the Kenyan plains.
    , @hyperbola
    The court testimony does not support the NY Times (and some Spanish newspapers), but it makes a nice headline.

    Los terroristas de Ripoll iban a atentar con un coche bomba contra la Sagrada Familia
    http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2017/08/22/599bd5c0268e3ede4e8b4618.html
    .... Mohamed Houli, imputado por presuntos delitos de integración en organización terrorista, asesinatos y lesiones terroristas, estragos y de depósito de explosivos, se defendió, no obstante, alegando que todavía no tenían ultimado un ataque contra ningún objetivo concreto y que la organización de los atentados se encontraba en una fase embrionaria.....
    , @Rosh
    Tourist tickets are considered donations by the church, and they fund the bulk of the construction costs (The Sagrada Familia's construction can only be funded by donations, which is a big reason why it has taken so long to build it).

    BTW, Barcelona is a magnificent city, one of the best in the world, especially if you like architecture and urban planning. In the midst of the West's suicide, hopefully we can salvage the best parts of it, including all the great Catalan Modernist buildings.
  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    ….well, considering the current Pontiff’s enthusiasm for mussulman immigration into Christendom.

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    At this point the church is highly profitable selling tickets at $17 to $22 per tour.

    I've never been to Barcelona, but Sagrada Familia has become one of the world's greatest tourist attractions.

    From that photo it reminds me of termite mounds on the Kenyan plains.

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  24. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @MJMD
    Because, as mentioned in Steve's previous post about it, it's the last ongoing project in the style of Mediaeval cathedral-building, having been started in the 19th century (when church attendance was obviously much higher). The other cathedral of Barcelona, Cathedral of the Holy Cross and Saint Eulalia, also took almost two centuries to build, with additional decades of work in the 19th Century to erect its current Gothic facade.

    Well, you’ve got Liverpool’s (England) ‘modernistic’ Roman Catholic cathedral built in the 1960s and ‘christened’ by some rather unkind wags with the moniker ‘Paddy’s Wigwam’ which has stuck ever since.
    The ‘innovative’ design has been plagued with structural problems and water ingress ever since.
    Apparently, back in the 1920s and 30s the diocese of Liverpool had plans for a ‘monster’ cathedral, built in stone in the ‘traditional’ style which would have dwarfed St. Peter’s in size.

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    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    The earlier plans for a Catholic cathedral in Liverpool were drawn up by Edwin Lutyens, a great architect (and not a Catholic).Only the crypt was completed.

    Paddy's Wigwam was built by an atheist architect who committed suicide in old age. The new Anglican cathedral in the same city is a tour de force of extreme competence of design and beauty of execution. It was designed by the last of the great Scott dynasty of English architects, and he was a Catholic.

    Topsy-turvy!
    , @Anonymous
    Speaking of Liverpool, here's an interesting anecdote concerning Jimmy Tarbuck, ( a rather stale, limp, mediocre former British TV 'comedian' hailing from that city).

    Tarbuck emerged around the same time as The Beatles and in order to cash-in on their fame he, rather improbably, styled himself as the 'fifth Beatle'. Chiefly known in the UK for being a leading member of the imitative piss-poor derivative golf-loafing, Vermouth drinking Brit version of the 'Rat-Pack' - ( the other members being the late Bruce Forsyth and Kenny Lynch ) - Tarbuck at the height of his 1970s naff fame - a time when he was hardly ever off the telly - rather ostentatiously drove a bronze colored Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with the 'cherished' licence-plate reading 'COMIC'.

    This lead the genuinely funny Bernard Manning to quip 'he should be prosecuted under the 'Trades Descriptions Act'.
  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Here’s a message which every iStever *must* take on board:

    No matter how heinous or wicked the next islamist attack on civilians on European soil will be – and the use of the word ‘will’ is deliberate – the elitists, the globalists, the power people, the deep state’ the forces which actually control and run the EU, national governments as can be discerned from The Economist magazine editorials, will not merely stop their ears and call for yet more Muslim immigration into Europe but will double down and become even more rabid and fanatical in their insistence.

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  26. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Good wiki page on this. The interiors are astounding. Obviously the young and the hipsters are attracted to the outrageous designs.

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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    An ancient, possibly apocryphal, ‘end of times’ prophecy I once read somewhere from attributed Nostradamus or similar personage predicted the end of Christendom happening coeval with the ‘falling’ of St. Peter’s and the Vatican.

    Apart from what is now the very real and obvious threat of ‘Italian’, (or EU or Schengen etc), Muslims detonating an almighty bomb in the Vatican, perhaps the prophecy is even more nuanced and prosaic than that.
    Undoubtedly, on current trends, Rome, Italy, will have a majority Muslim population by next century. No reasonable person cognizant of the facts can doubt that.
    Surely, by then it will be only a small, trivial step for the democratically elected Rome city council to expel the Vatican, bag and baggage, from Rome on grounds of the irritating pest-like imposition of ‘cultural insensitivity’ upon the host population.

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  28. @Anonymous
    Well, you've got Liverpool's (England) 'modernistic' Roman Catholic cathedral built in the 1960s and 'christened' by some rather unkind wags with the moniker 'Paddy's Wigwam' which has stuck ever since.
    The 'innovative' design has been plagued with structural problems and water ingress ever since.
    Apparently, back in the 1920s and 30s the diocese of Liverpool had plans for a 'monster' cathedral, built in stone in the 'traditional' style which would have dwarfed St. Peter's in size.

    The earlier plans for a Catholic cathedral in Liverpool were drawn up by Edwin Lutyens, a great architect (and not a Catholic).Only the crypt was completed.

    Paddy’s Wigwam was built by an atheist architect who committed suicide in old age. The new Anglican cathedral in the same city is a tour de force of extreme competence of design and beauty of execution. It was designed by the last of the great Scott dynasty of English architects, and he was a Catholic.

    Topsy-turvy!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Another (unkind) sobriquet for Liverpool Catholic cathedral is the 'Mersey Funnel' - a play on the nearby Mersey Tunnel.
  29. Pat Casey says:

    Gaudi’s church is #3 after The Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum. I suspect, though, that St. Peter’s would be high on the terrorism target list.

    The three secrets of Fatima that Sister Lucia said were one secret:

    The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

    I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

    After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!‘. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it’ a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father’. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

    Tuy-3-1-1944”.

    The Holy Father was asked, “What about the Third Secret of Fatima? Should it not have already been published by 1960?”

    Pope John Paul II replied: “Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.

    On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired.

    The Pope continued: “Many wish to know simply from curiosity and a taste for the sensational, but they forget that knowledge also implies responsibility. They only seek the satisfaction of their curiosity, and that is dangerous if at the same time they are not disposed to do something, and if they are convinced that it is impossible to do anything against evil.”

    At this point the Pope grasped a Rosary and said: “Here is the remedy against this evil. Pray, pray, and ask for nothing more. Leave everything else to the Mother of God.”

    The Holy Father was then asked: “What is going to happen to the Church?”

    He answered: “We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ… With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother, and be very, very assiduous in praying the Rosary.”

    Tuy September 1, 1944 or April 1, 1944

    JMJ

    Now I am going to reveal the third fragment of the secret: This part is the apostasy in the Church!

    Our Lady showed us the individual who I describe as the ‘holy Father’ in front of a multitude that was cheering him.

    But there was a difference from a true holy Father, his devilish gaze, this one had the gaze of evil.

    Then, after some moments we saw the same Pope entering a Church, but this Church was the Church of hell; there is no way to describe the ugliness of that place. It looked like a gray cement fortress with broken angles and windows similar to eyes; it had a beak in the roof of the building.

    Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who said to us: You saw the apostasy in the Church; this letter can be opened by the holy Father, but it must be announced after Pius XII and before 1960.

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter’s grave must be removed and transferred to Fatima.

    Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority will be removed and delivered to Fatima.

    The cathedral of Rome must be destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.

    If 69 weeks after this order is announced, Rome continues its abomination, the city will be destroyed.

    Our Lady told us that this is written,[in] Daniel 9:24-25 and Matthew 21:42-44

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    https://onepeterfive.com/amidst-conflicting-fatima-secrets-a-clear-message-shines/
  30. Pat Casey says:
    @Pat Casey

    Gaudi’s church is #3 after The Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum. I suspect, though, that St. Peter’s would be high on the terrorism target list.
     
    The three secrets of Fatima that Sister Lucia said were one secret:

    The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

    I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

    After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!‘. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it’ a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father’. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

    Tuy-3-1-1944”.
     

     

    The Holy Father was asked, “What about the Third Secret of Fatima? Should it not have already been published by 1960?”

    Pope John Paul II replied: “Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.

    On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired.

    The Pope continued: “Many wish to know simply from curiosity and a taste for the sensational, but they forget that knowledge also implies responsibility. They only seek the satisfaction of their curiosity, and that is dangerous if at the same time they are not disposed to do something, and if they are convinced that it is impossible to do anything against evil.”

    At this point the Pope grasped a Rosary and said: “Here is the remedy against this evil. Pray, pray, and ask for nothing more. Leave everything else to the Mother of God.”

    The Holy Father was then asked: “What is going to happen to the Church?”

    He answered: “We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ… With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother, and be very, very assiduous in praying the Rosary.”

    Tuy September 1, 1944 or April 1, 1944

    JMJ

    Now I am going to reveal the third fragment of the secret: This part is the apostasy in the Church!

    Our Lady showed us the individual who I describe as the ‘holy Father’ in front of a multitude that was cheering him.

    But there was a difference from a true holy Father, his devilish gaze, this one had the gaze of evil.

    Then, after some moments we saw the same Pope entering a Church, but this Church was the Church of hell; there is no way to describe the ugliness of that place. It looked like a gray cement fortress with broken angles and windows similar to eyes; it had a beak in the roof of the building.

    Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who said to us: You saw the apostasy in the Church; this letter can be opened by the holy Father, but it must be announced after Pius XII and before 1960.

    In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter’s grave must be removed and transferred to Fatima.

    Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority will be removed and delivered to Fatima.

    The cathedral of Rome must be destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.

    If 69 weeks after this order is announced, Rome continues its abomination, the city will be destroyed.

    Our Lady told us that this is written,[in] Daniel 9:24-25 and Matthew 21:42-44
     
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  31. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Old Palo Altan
    The earlier plans for a Catholic cathedral in Liverpool were drawn up by Edwin Lutyens, a great architect (and not a Catholic).Only the crypt was completed.

    Paddy's Wigwam was built by an atheist architect who committed suicide in old age. The new Anglican cathedral in the same city is a tour de force of extreme competence of design and beauty of execution. It was designed by the last of the great Scott dynasty of English architects, and he was a Catholic.

    Topsy-turvy!

    Another (unkind) sobriquet for Liverpool Catholic cathedral is the ‘Mersey Funnel’ – a play on the nearby Mersey Tunnel.

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  32. nebulafox says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Things would be so much easier if everyone converted to Islam or didn't throw Christianity in everyone's faces

    People of Color are sick and tired of white christians making the world unlivabke

    It's about time they fought back against white supremacy

    Wait. So Christianity is intrinsically white?

    If you ever go to the Philippines, South Korea, certain parts of Nigeria, or the Congo, you are going to be one sad, sad little SJW. You’ll probably also be rather disappointed to see Bosnia, too, now that I think about it.

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    ... try Niger, West Africa ... a moslem hellhole with an average brood of 7 per family ...
  33. hyperbola says:
    @Steve Sailer
    At this point the church is highly profitable selling tickets at $17 to $22 per tour.

    I've never been to Barcelona, but Sagrada Familia has become one of the world's greatest tourist attractions.

    The court testimony does not support the NY Times (and some Spanish newspapers), but it makes a nice headline.

    Los terroristas de Ripoll iban a atentar con un coche bomba contra la Sagrada Familia

    http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2017/08/22/599bd5c0268e3ede4e8b4618.html

    …. Mohamed Houli, imputado por presuntos delitos de integración en organización terrorista, asesinatos y lesiones terroristas, estragos y de depósito de explosivos, se defendió, no obstante, alegando que todavía no tenían ultimado un ataque contra ningún objetivo concreto y que la organización de los atentados se encontraba en una fase embrionaria…..

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    • Replies: @Rosh
    If the terrorists say their aim was to blow up "monuments" in Barcelona, it's reasonable to infer that the Sagrada Familia was on the list. It's the most famous monument in Spain and the most popular in Europe directly involving Christianity. Interestingly, look at this link of the most popular Barcelona attractions: (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g187497-Activities-Barcelona_Catalonia.html). The Sagrada Familia is # 1 and the Casa Batllo, another Gaudi building, is # 2.
  34. German tabloid Bild was reporting today that the Isis magazine featured Dresden’s Frauenkirche on the cover; the implication obviously being that this is a target.

    Perhaps Europe’s sacred buildings will be their next front. Truly, European people and heritage are under assault as never before. Even though I knew this was coming it is still shocking to see it happening before my eyes.

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  35. Rosh says:
    @hyperbola
    The court testimony does not support the NY Times (and some Spanish newspapers), but it makes a nice headline.

    Los terroristas de Ripoll iban a atentar con un coche bomba contra la Sagrada Familia
    http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2017/08/22/599bd5c0268e3ede4e8b4618.html
    .... Mohamed Houli, imputado por presuntos delitos de integración en organización terrorista, asesinatos y lesiones terroristas, estragos y de depósito de explosivos, se defendió, no obstante, alegando que todavía no tenían ultimado un ataque contra ningún objetivo concreto y que la organización de los atentados se encontraba en una fase embrionaria.....

    If the terrorists say their aim was to blow up “monuments” in Barcelona, it’s reasonable to infer that the Sagrada Familia was on the list. It’s the most famous monument in Spain and the most popular in Europe directly involving Christianity. Interestingly, look at this link of the most popular Barcelona attractions: (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g187497-Activities-Barcelona_Catalonia.html). The Sagrada Familia is # 1 and the Casa Batllo, another Gaudi building, is # 2.

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  36. Rosh says:
    @Steve Sailer
    At this point the church is highly profitable selling tickets at $17 to $22 per tour.

    I've never been to Barcelona, but Sagrada Familia has become one of the world's greatest tourist attractions.

    Tourist tickets are considered donations by the church, and they fund the bulk of the construction costs (The Sagrada Familia’s construction can only be funded by donations, which is a big reason why it has taken so long to build it).

    BTW, Barcelona is a magnificent city, one of the best in the world, especially if you like architecture and urban planning. In the midst of the West’s suicide, hopefully we can salvage the best parts of it, including all the great Catalan Modernist buildings.

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    Strangely, Catalans want to separated from other ethnic Iberians, but appear to be happy with Moroccan settlers in their midst.

    Just what the Hell were Moroccans doing in the quaint town of Ripoll?
  37. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Well, you've got Liverpool's (England) 'modernistic' Roman Catholic cathedral built in the 1960s and 'christened' by some rather unkind wags with the moniker 'Paddy's Wigwam' which has stuck ever since.
    The 'innovative' design has been plagued with structural problems and water ingress ever since.
    Apparently, back in the 1920s and 30s the diocese of Liverpool had plans for a 'monster' cathedral, built in stone in the 'traditional' style which would have dwarfed St. Peter's in size.

    Speaking of Liverpool, here’s an interesting anecdote concerning Jimmy Tarbuck, ( a rather stale, limp, mediocre former British TV ‘comedian’ hailing from that city).

    Tarbuck emerged around the same time as The Beatles and in order to cash-in on their fame he, rather improbably, styled himself as the ‘fifth Beatle’. Chiefly known in the UK for being a leading member of the imitative piss-poor derivative golf-loafing, Vermouth drinking Brit version of the ‘Rat-Pack’ – ( the other members being the late Bruce Forsyth and Kenny Lynch ) – Tarbuck at the height of his 1970s naff fame – a time when he was hardly ever off the telly – rather ostentatiously drove a bronze colored Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with the ‘cherished’ licence-plate reading ‘COMIC’.

    This lead the genuinely funny Bernard Manning to quip ‘he should be prosecuted under the ‘Trades Descriptions Act’.

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  38. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rosh
    Tourist tickets are considered donations by the church, and they fund the bulk of the construction costs (The Sagrada Familia's construction can only be funded by donations, which is a big reason why it has taken so long to build it).

    BTW, Barcelona is a magnificent city, one of the best in the world, especially if you like architecture and urban planning. In the midst of the West's suicide, hopefully we can salvage the best parts of it, including all the great Catalan Modernist buildings.

    Strangely, Catalans want to separated from other ethnic Iberians, but appear to be happy with Moroccan settlers in their midst.

    Just what the Hell were Moroccans doing in the quaint town of Ripoll?

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  39. fitzGetty says:
    @ia
    In Islam they replace the defeated god's monuments with their own. They will put a Mosque there. Westerner's use pop culture, blacks, and feminist decadent mass media to the same effect. It sure worked in the USA. But Islam is proving a tough nut to crack.

    … who can forget the brazen attempt to establish a mosque close to ground zero — in the weeks following 9/11 ?

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  40. fitzGetty says:
    @nebulafox
    Wait. So Christianity is intrinsically white?

    If you ever go to the Philippines, South Korea, certain parts of Nigeria, or the Congo, you are going to be one sad, sad little SJW. You'll probably also be rather disappointed to see Bosnia, too, now that I think about it.

    … try Niger, West Africa … a moslem hellhole with an average brood of 7 per family …

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  41. @Jake
    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal loves him some Moslems, as much he loves him some Jews, some gays, some abortionists, some women-ordaining Mainline Protestants. Pope Francis the Peronist liberal most despises truly orthodox Catholics, with conservative Protestants a close second.

    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal asserts that you, Steve, are a HATER for suggesting that the maligned Moslems would even consider attacking the Vatican.

    Pope Francis the Peronist liberal loves him some Moslems, as much he loves him some Jews, some gays, some abortionists, some women-ordaining Mainline Protestants. Pope Francis the Peronist liberal most despises truly orthodox Catholics, with conservative Protestants a close second.

    And yet … still a higher form of life than Paul Ryan.

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  42. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Anarchists destroyed much of Gaudi’s plans during the Spanish Civil War.

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  43. Semites seem to have a problem with European structures and monuments. They seem to like making a desert everywhere they go.

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