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From the NYT:

A Migration Juggernaut Is Headed for Europe
SEPT. 15, 2015

Eduardo Porter
ECONOMIC SCENE

European leaders probably don’t want to hear this now, as they frantically try to close their borders to stop hundreds of thousands of desperate migrants and asylum seekers escaping hunger and violence in Africa and the Middle East. But they are dealing with the unstoppable force of demography.

Fortified borders may slow it, somewhat. But the sooner Europe acknowledges it faces several decades of heavy immigration from its neighboring regions, the sooner it will develop the needed policies to help integrate large migrant populations into its economies and societies.

That will be no easy task. It has long been a challenge for all rich countries, of course, but in crucial respects Europe does a particularly poor job.

Perhaps it’s not surprising, as a recent report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found, that it is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries. But that doesn’t explain why it is also harder for their European-born children, who report even more discrimination than their parents and suffer much higher rates of unemployment than the children of the native-born.

S0, immigrant resentment and hostility just gets worse in the second generation? Maybe Europe should plan for that, such as by letting in fewer fathers of future terrorists and welfare grifters?

Rather than fortifying borders, European countries would do better to improve on this record. The benefits would be substantial, for European citizens and the rest of the world.

Over the summer, as Hungary hurried to lay razor wire along its southern border and E.U. leaders hashed out plans to destroy smugglers’ boats off the coast of North Africa, the United Nations Population Division quietly released its latest reassessment of future population growth.

Gone is the expectation that the world’s population will peak at nine billion in 2050. Now the U.N. predicts it will hit almost 10 billion at midcentury and surpass 11 billion by 2100. And most of the growth will come from the poor, strife-ridden regions of the world that have been sending migrants scrambling to Europe in search of safety and a better life.

The population of Africa, which has already grown 50 percent since the turn of the century, is expected to double by 2050, to 2.5 billion people. South Asia’s population may grow by more than half a billion. And Palestine’s population density is expected to double to 1,626 people per square kilometer (4,211 per square mile), three times that of densely populated India.

You know, there’s a country close to Palestine that seems to do a pretty good job of stopping the “unstoppable force of demography.” Maybe Europeans could try to learn how the Palestinians’ neighbor does it.

… “With Africa’s population likely to increase by more than three billion over the next 85 years, the European Union could be facing a wave of migration that makes current debates about accepting hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers seem irrelevant,” wrote Adair Turner, the former chairman of Britain’s Financial Services Authority and now chairman of the Institute for New Economic Thinking.

In other words, Europe, lie back and try to enjoy it. But at the same time: dig faster!

Europe’s initial reaction to the flow has been mixed, at best. Germany, notably, has committed real resources to help cover the basic needs of hundreds of thousands of refugees it expects to welcome this year. But that is hardly the spirit across the board. And Europe is still mostly focused on steeling its borders, even to the point of closing many of its once free-flowing internal boundaries.

European countries are closing their internal boundaries because because the EU has done such a miserable job of closing its external boundary. (A serious question: Is this simple concept widely understood, or is it some amazing insight that I need to propound more often?)

Better options exist. The rich history of immigration around the world suggests that new migrant populations could be integrated into the European social fabric to the benefit of Europeans, the new immigrants and even the regions of the world they left behind. …

Rich countries with lower fertility rates and older populations benefit from young migrants of working age, who help rev up their slowing labor supply. From 2000 to 2010, migrants accounted for nearly two-thirds of European labor force growth.

Yeah, like in Spain, which took in huge numbers of culturally compatible immigrants in the 2000s from Latin America. How’d that strategy work out for Spain anyway?

Good news! Spain’s youth unemployment rate dropped from 48.9% in June to only 48.6% in July, and it hasn’t even been 7 years yet since the Crash.

Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.

Especially when you just accept anybody with a smartphone and no documents.

But the overall task is greater, to eventually close the socio-economic gaps between immigrants and their descendants and native Europeans. “What matters is the integration of the migrants in receiving countries,” Mr. Scarpetta said. “This will not occur by itself.”

No, it will of course requiring hiring millions more soft major diversicrats to manage the process.

In the end, the choice is clear. Europe’s best shot at prosperity is to build upon the diversity that immigration will bring.

 
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  1. Previous generations had to rely on geography to provide borders, but it would seem that in the Industrial Age with nuclear power, robot sentries and whatnot that a border could be put where ever someone pleased.

  2. Well, I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m looking forward to Marine Le Pen being elected president of France.

    It’s time a woman took the job, don’t you think?

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @tbraton
    "It’s time a woman took the job, don’t you think?"

    Well, diversity seems to be the theme of the present age. Why not a woman? While we're at it, maybe they can find a woman with balls. Maybe Caitlyn should move to France.
    , @Mandos
    Sorry dear Sir, but this is not going to happen. If she goes 40% in the second round of the presidential elections it will be an astonishing performance already.

    France is a socialist country dominated by leftist nutjobs and maintained in due obedience by the threat of its 10-15 million population of islamic descent. You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.
  3. The EU has to invite the world because NATO invaded the world.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    nato is 99% usa though. as an american, shit, our govt fucked up hard.

    I wonder if this will finally turn western eu into anti usa.
  4. Simple concept.

    Keep expounding. Lots of simpletons out there.

  5. Eduardo knows that his audence is so docile, so well trained and so cucked that they won’t even dare to point out the obvious about Israel being located right next to overflowing Palestine.
    It’s amazing.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    I see that statement in a different light. By mentioning the Palestinians it seems like he's subtly implying that Israel is part of Europe and that it too needs to open its borders. He's doing it subtly because he doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of the pro-Israel portion of NYT's readers, but it's a dog whistle for the anti-Israel portion.
  6. “With Africa’s population likely to increase by more than three billion over the next 85 years …”

    That will only happen if Western countries enable it. African countries can’t do it without our help. Maybe, I don’t know, we should stop helping them.

  7. 1/ The actual (non-Steve-o-sphere) European response to the flood of migrants:

    ‘Norway’s anti-immigrant party set for worst election result in 22 years’

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-norway-election-idUKKCN0RE25620150914

    (Yes I know Norway isn’t actually an EU member, but this is the first national election in Europe since the boy’s photo unless you include the pro-migrant Corbyn victory)

    Apparently a lot of Europeans are lying back.

    2/ Instead of complaining about the NYT, which very few Europeans care about, or pretending that in all or virtually all European countries there’s a groundswell of opposition to the migration it would be better intellectually (and emotionally) to try and figure out why this is not so.

    3/ Yes Israel is working hard to keep out migrants, but most Israelis aren’t Europeans or descendants of Europeans, and those that are are mostly Eastern Europeans who comparatively less pro-migrant.

    Besides a lot of Europeans have Unz.com opinions of Israel so using Israel as an example isn’t exactly advantageous.

    • Replies: @middle aged vet
    Anony-mouse - the article you linked to implied no more than that, between a party that advocated for allowing 8,000 Syrians into a country of 5 million and a party that advocated for allowing fewer Syrians than that into a country of 5 million, the first party did better. Am I wrong? your point number 2 did not refer to any objective evidence; consider this possibility: when one writes on the internet, one has an obligation to do more than express one's unsupported idea of what one believes facts might be. Your point number 3 makes little sense; are you aware that Europe and Israel are both heirs to ancient civilization? Were you trying, in a ninth-grade way, to make fun of Israelis, or of what you call the Steve-o-sphere? If you weren't, did you try to make it seem like you were? I really don't understand your comment. Were you merely adopting a level of comfort thinking you were only communicating with uninformed internet readers whom you believe have "Unz.com opinions of Israel" (not a bad rhetorical approach, by the way - "Unz.com opinions of Israel" is a pretty good way to express contempt, whether one agrees with its insulting nature or not ). Anyway, please try to say what you mean and mean what you say. If you don't know how to do that, spend a few hours reviewing the Book of Proverbs, there is a lot of good advice to be found there, with the bonus that those who learn some wisdom therein wind up less sillily contemptuous of Jews. Not that I am saying you showed any such contempt, of course - my best guess is that you didn't - but only someone with much better reading skills that me could know for sure.
    , @anon
    The media's version of what is happening is a lie.

    People react to the lie until they experience reality.

    Not complicated.
    , @szopen
    Actually in most European countries there is quite a lot of opposition to immigration. The polls consistently put the number of people answering "no immigration" or "just very limited immigration" as being either majority or largest group in pretty much whole Europe, including France, Poland and Germany. People who would advocate for no limits, or large number of immigrants are in minority.

    E.g. here

    "German citizens are somewhat more critical than the average of all Europeans surveyed, of which 57% are against immigrants from third countries. Opposition was higher than in Germany among respondents from Italy (75%), Latvia (79%) and Slovakia (74%)."

    http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/majority-germans-reject-immigration-outside-eu-312282
  8. The only possible reason for pieces like this is hatred of Europe, right?

    “Africa is to explode and they’re all going to be poor.
    The only way for us to be rich is to bring them over here.
    Not because they’re different, because we’re all the same.
    But because it would be diverse.
    But if they were diverse while in Africa, they’d still be poor.”

    Nobody is this stupid.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    They *ARE* that stupid.
  9. “Is this simple concept of widely understood”

    Typo needs edit

  10. We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.

    BTW does anybody know where the maxim “demography is destiny” originated? I looked it up. Turns out the phrase was coined by Ben Wattenberg, a man who wrote that it was a matter of almost transcendent delight that the United States would soon be a country be without a white majority.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it!
    , @WGG
    "We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable."

    The fallacy you are describing is Begging the Question.

    "Europe will be invaded because we cannot/ will not stop the invasion." The conclusion is the question. Basically, "Europe is being invaded because Europe is being invaded." Then they follow that fallacy with another fallacy, circular reasoning, which justifies the "goodness" of the invasion because diversity for diversity's sake. Yay.

    The most natural and important questions are deliberately left out:

    -Is it good for Europeans?

    -Is it moral to force it upon Europeans if they do not want it? Is that democracy?

    -What methods would be most effective to stop or stem the tide?

    -*Who is behind this invasion/ social engineering and on what plane do we fight them?* (Most important question.)
    , @iSteveFan

    We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.
     
    Pat Buchanan has been mentioning this for a while now. He calls it the theory of inevitability in which the left browbeats the public with such news stories until the public believes resistance is futile, and they must go along. Unfortunately it works unless you have counter narrative that is as powerful.

    On a related note the open borders people in the US keep saying you cannot deport 11 million as seen recently by Jorge Ramos when he crashed Trump's Iowa presser. But Trump did a great thing by forcing Ramos to admit that we should deport the gangbangers and other criminals. Ramos kept saying you cannot deport 11 million. Finally he relented, and then Trump said "I will deport those guys so fast your head will spin."

    The great thing about that was that it changed the debate and instead of being told what we cannot do, Trump allowed us to focus on what we can do. I showed that video of Trump to a couple of friends who thought deportation was a nonstarter. Instantly their eyes lit up and the the light went on.

    Now if Trump can keep it up, he can expand the target of deportations to include not just the gangbangers, but the illegals as well. After all once talk of deportations is acceptable it acquires a momentum of its own. Once it contradicts the theory of inevitability, policy issues designed to repatriate the illegals can then be rationally discussed, and can no longer be dismissed out of hand.

  11. Hungary means business:

    http://news.yahoo.com/border-free-europe-unravels-migrant-crisis-hits-record-110230875.html

    Hungary shuts EU border, taking migrant crisis into its own hands

    It’s the showdown at the OK Corral.

    My bet is on Hungary. David v. Goliath.

    • Replies: @Stubborn in Germany
    Hungary might just hold firm ... if and only if the other three members of the Vishegrad group (Slovaka, Czechia, Poland) continue to stand with Hungary.

    But already Hungary's ambassador to Romania has been called into the Romanian foreign office for a dressing down. The gall of Hungary, announcing they will build a fence with Romania!

    Never underestimate the power of the fierce German behemoth. Romania is poorer than Hungary and more dependent on German money.
  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I can’t believe this sort of article represents mainstream thinking.

    It seems clear that there are enormous problems integrating the immigrants who are in Europe now…Merkle herself was saying Multiculturalism was a failure not so long ago (?)

    Europe can’t integrate its recent immigrants, it has a gypsy population who are problematic outsiders after centuries…it’s just a wildly reckless flight of fancy to even be thinking about what this column is proposing.

    Something is going to snap. If there is no rational voice opposing this madness Europe is over. Perhaps this is the future Europeans want, but I can’t believe it.

    This is a twilight zone moment we are living through. Hopefully sanity prevails.

    • Replies: @anon

    I can’t believe this sort of article represents mainstream thinking.
     
    It's not thinking it's propaganda. Unfortunately it becomes mainstream non-thinking just from the sheer daily weight of it coming out of the media - and critically - the same media preventing an opposing view.
  13. “No, it will of course requiring hiring millions more soft major diversicrats to manage the process.”

    Sailer too talking like immigrant.

  14. European countries are closing their internal boundaries because because the EU has done such a miserable job of closing its external boundary. (A serious question: Is this simple concept widely understood, or is it some amazing insight that I need to propound more often?)

    This is the phenomenon described in Putnam’s Bowling Alone. Even individual people erect and enforce boundaries around themselves when the external boundaries are breached.

    • Agree: Kyle McKenna
  15. Wow, this article is rich. I love this bit:

    Perhaps it’s not surprising, as a recent report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found, that it is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries.

    Then why aren’t the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums. They’re a Muslim country located closer to the refugees’ home countries than the E.U. Why aren’t these wretched refugees making a beeline to Qatar?

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Doubtless your question is rhetorical, but of course jobs have nothing at all to do with why the migrants are flooding into the Nordic countries & the UK.

    Qatar fails to make with the bennies, yo.
    , @Lot

    Then why aren’t the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums.
     
    The Qataris prefer Southeast Asians.
  16. Securing the border is impossible (unless you’re Israel or Japan), but eliminating the education and income gaps between the races is like totally doable.

    One way that it would be easier to secure your borders: eliminate immigration from non-white countries. It would be incredibly easy to identify African and Asian illegal immigrants if the population of Europe were almost entirely white. It would be as simple as picking out the black or Asian man.

    • Replies: @Ttjy
    Good idea about eliminating non-white immigration. But all the morons in power would call that racism and they don't want to be racist because somehow that has been decided to be the one way they measure if someone is moral. You can do whatever you want as long as you are for diversity.
    , @Lot

    Securing the border is impossible (unless you’re Israel or Japan), but eliminating the education and income gaps between the races is like totally doable.
     
    Yes, as Steve says, it will only require hiring millions more soft major diversicrats to manage the process.

    I've noticed whenever I see one of those warm fuzzy propaganda profiles of a non-murderous European Muslim, he seems to have some sort of social worker or welfare administration job.
  17. @anony-mouse
    1/ The actual (non-Steve-o-sphere) European response to the flood of migrants:

    'Norway's anti-immigrant party set for worst election result in 22 years'

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-norway-election-idUKKCN0RE25620150914

    (Yes I know Norway isn't actually an EU member, but this is the first national election in Europe since the boy's photo unless you include the pro-migrant Corbyn victory)

    Apparently a lot of Europeans are lying back.

    2/ Instead of complaining about the NYT, which very few Europeans care about, or pretending that in all or virtually all European countries there's a groundswell of opposition to the migration it would be better intellectually (and emotionally) to try and figure out why this is not so.

    3/ Yes Israel is working hard to keep out migrants, but most Israelis aren't Europeans or descendants of Europeans, and those that are are mostly Eastern Europeans who comparatively less pro-migrant.

    Besides a lot of Europeans have Unz.com opinions of Israel so using Israel as an example isn't exactly advantageous.

    Anony-mouse – the article you linked to implied no more than that, between a party that advocated for allowing 8,000 Syrians into a country of 5 million and a party that advocated for allowing fewer Syrians than that into a country of 5 million, the first party did better. Am I wrong? your point number 2 did not refer to any objective evidence; consider this possibility: when one writes on the internet, one has an obligation to do more than express one’s unsupported idea of what one believes facts might be. Your point number 3 makes little sense; are you aware that Europe and Israel are both heirs to ancient civilization? Were you trying, in a ninth-grade way, to make fun of Israelis, or of what you call the Steve-o-sphere? If you weren’t, did you try to make it seem like you were? I really don’t understand your comment. Were you merely adopting a level of comfort thinking you were only communicating with uninformed internet readers whom you believe have “Unz.com opinions of Israel” (not a bad rhetorical approach, by the way – “Unz.com opinions of Israel” is a pretty good way to express contempt, whether one agrees with its insulting nature or not ). Anyway, please try to say what you mean and mean what you say. If you don’t know how to do that, spend a few hours reviewing the Book of Proverbs, there is a lot of good advice to be found there, with the bonus that those who learn some wisdom therein wind up less sillily contemptuous of Jews. Not that I am saying you showed any such contempt, of course – my best guess is that you didn’t – but only someone with much better reading skills that me could know for sure.

  18. “Rather than fortifying borders, European countries would do better to improve on this record. The benefits would be substantial, for European citizens and the rest of the world.”

    How come they never ask the obvious questions – Why non Europe so terrible? Can it improve?…

    Do they just assume that Sudanese moving to Belgium can become like the Belgians, with just enough support and love,etc?

    Never mention the idea that Belgium might turn into Sudan.

  19. What Eddie Porter says is irrelevant. NYT is mostly a fish wrapper for those who still think. It’s not the paper of note, it is at best a window into the twisted liberal minds in the press and the beltway.

  20. I am thinking of the NYT and all correct media demonizing James Watson for his comments on Africa while they applaud Africans moving from those same never successful countries to the first world Why doesn’t it work there? Anybody? Buehler?

  21. @celt darnell
    Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking forward to Marine Le Pen being elected president of France.

    It's time a woman took the job, don't you think?

    “It’s time a woman took the job, don’t you think?”

    Well, diversity seems to be the theme of the present age. Why not a woman? While we’re at it, maybe they can find a woman with balls. Maybe Caitlyn should move to France.

  22. This article – a Mexican telling Europe how to solve it’s migrant crisis – kind of reminds me of an article I read in Newsweek several years ago. That article was written by a Jewish agnostic who was telling the Catholic church how to conduct it’s business in one fashion or another. That’s what I love about the left – they think it’s impossible for them to come across as foolish or stupid. This makes them much less inhibited about saying foolish and stupid things. Or preaching from a position of ignorance.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    This article – a Mexican telling Europe how to solve it’s migrant crisis – kind of reminds me of an article I read in Newsweek several years ago. That article was written by a Jewish agnostic who was telling the Catholic church how to conduct it’s business in one fashion or another. That’s what I love about the left – they think it’s impossible for them to come across as foolish or stupid.
     
    Why does that appear foolish or stupid? That stuff works:

    http://www.fisheaters.com/jewsvaticanii.html
  23. @Luke Lea
    We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.

    BTW does anybody know where the maxim "demography is destiny" originated? I looked it up. Turns out the phrase was coined by Ben Wattenberg, a man who wrote that it was a matter of almost transcendent delight that the United States would soon be a country be without a white majority.

    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it!

    • Replies: @Luke Lea

    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it
     
    !

    Another commenter called it begging the question, which it is of course, but of a special kind. It is not merely assuming that which needs to be proven but of positively asserting it. Argument by assertion would be another way of putting it, in this case asserting the inevitable. It is a form of fatalism, denying human choice in the matter, as if there were no free agency involved. You could say that those sophists who take this line are irresponsibly betraying their people. They should be denounced at every opportunity. Let us assert our freedom and not take it lying down. Otherwise we are not free human beings living in a democracy, nor do we deserve to be. A terrible legacy to leave to our children.

  24. [I]t is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries. But that doesn’t explain why it is also harder for their European-born children, who report even more discrimination than their parents and suffer much higher rates of unemployment than the children of the native-born.

    How is that statement compatible with the following one:

    Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.

    These highly educated people who can’t find employment nevertheless do not burden the public purse? Please explain.

    • Replies: @anon
    It's all lies.

    The vast majority are from the bottom of the economic pile.

    Huge numbers from certain groups work in the black economy while claiming unemployment benefits so they're not actually unemployed.

    They massively burden the public purse.

    The educated minority generally do find work.
  25. “In the end, the choice is clear. Europe’s best shot at prosperity is to build upon the diversity that immigration will bring.” Someone should tell Mr. Porter to do some reading about the history of the Balkans, Eastern Europe, the Austrian-Hungarian empire, etc. But then again, it would be too “Eurocentric” for a diversity inc propagandist to seriously study European history. Also, it would be a lot easier for Europeans to solve their demographic problems by encouraging their women to have more children; it would also cost a lot less.

  26. @FozzieT
    Wow, this article is rich. I love this bit:

    Perhaps it’s not surprising, as a recent report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found, that it is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries.
     
    Then why aren't the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums. They're a Muslim country located closer to the refugees' home countries than the E.U. Why aren't these wretched refugees making a beeline to Qatar?

    Doubtless your question is rhetorical, but of course jobs have nothing at all to do with why the migrants are flooding into the Nordic countries & the UK.

    Qatar fails to make with the bennies, yo.

    • Replies: @Northy
    I doubt the women of Qatar are loose/promiscuous either. Where's the fun in that?
  27. The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans.

    • Replies: @helena
    Yes, it would have more impact on the uneducated if there was a 'news'zine that published that single simple statement everyday until working people who do not read erudite analyses 'got it'.

    The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans (the largest demographic replacement since the Bronze Age, 3000 years ago). ¿comprender?

    On second thoughts, they wouldn't understand what demographic replacement means nor probably what primary driving force means!

    "What does it say?"
    "I'm not sure, something about cars replacing something in primary schools"

    , @Ozymandias
    "The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans."

    Capital has a long history of weakening Labor by diluting it with cheaper foreign sources. When Labor resists, Capital immediately smears them with the "racist" label. Always it has been thus. What has changed is media participation. In previous eras, media was primarily in print, and had dual loyalties due to the nature of their revenue stream:

    Classifieds - split between Capital and Labor, and a lesser revenue source to begin with. Call it a draw.

    Advertisements - overwhelmingly Capital. People don't advertise unless they've got something to sell.

    Subscriptions - heavily Labor. There are always more workers than owners.

    You can't sell advertising unless you've got readers, and the majority of papers had to serve both audiences. But the new model is much different. Subscriptions and sales have plummeted. The new media serves only Capital, as that's where its revenue stream originates. When people stopped directly paying for their information, they lost control of who the information purveyors served. Yes, media still requires "readership," but where such readership used to be captured by serving Labor's interests, it is now captured by serving them banal trivialities and mindless distractions. This is compounded by the demographic shift to a much younger target audience who were never big consumers of print, but are heavy "consumers" of internet. Labor no longer has any control over the media, and they are viewed as sheep to be herded in the direction that the highest bidder wishes.
  28. @anony-mouse
    1/ The actual (non-Steve-o-sphere) European response to the flood of migrants:

    'Norway's anti-immigrant party set for worst election result in 22 years'

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-norway-election-idUKKCN0RE25620150914

    (Yes I know Norway isn't actually an EU member, but this is the first national election in Europe since the boy's photo unless you include the pro-migrant Corbyn victory)

    Apparently a lot of Europeans are lying back.

    2/ Instead of complaining about the NYT, which very few Europeans care about, or pretending that in all or virtually all European countries there's a groundswell of opposition to the migration it would be better intellectually (and emotionally) to try and figure out why this is not so.

    3/ Yes Israel is working hard to keep out migrants, but most Israelis aren't Europeans or descendants of Europeans, and those that are are mostly Eastern Europeans who comparatively less pro-migrant.

    Besides a lot of Europeans have Unz.com opinions of Israel so using Israel as an example isn't exactly advantageous.

    The media’s version of what is happening is a lie.

    People react to the lie until they experience reality.

    Not complicated.

  29. I’m the innocent bystander
    Somehow I got stuck
    Between the rock and the hard place
    And I’m down on my luck
    And I’m down on my luck
    And I’m down on my luck

    Now I’m hiding in Honduras
    I’m a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns and money

    Hungary is the new Honduras, the rock and hard place.

    “There is a go-for-broke tactic, “the target,” taught by the best swordmasters, which consists in headlong advance with arm, wrist, and blade in full extension — all attack and no attempt to parry. But it works only by perfect timing when you see your opponent slacken up momentarily. Otherwise it is suicide. ” Glory Road

    Germany is the target and it’s in the lurch. Get to the airport!

  30. @Harry Baldwin
    [I]t is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries. But that doesn’t explain why it is also harder for their European-born children, who report even more discrimination than their parents and suffer much higher rates of unemployment than the children of the native-born.

    How is that statement compatible with the following one:

    Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.

    These highly educated people who can't find employment nevertheless do not burden the public purse? Please explain.

    It’s all lies.

    The vast majority are from the bottom of the economic pile.

    Huge numbers from certain groups work in the black economy while claiming unemployment benefits so they’re not actually unemployed.

    They massively burden the public purse.

    The educated minority generally do find work.

  31. @celt darnell
    Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking forward to Marine Le Pen being elected president of France.

    It's time a woman took the job, don't you think?

    Sorry dear Sir, but this is not going to happen. If she goes 40% in the second round of the presidential elections it will be an astonishing performance already.

    France is a socialist country dominated by leftist nutjobs and maintained in due obedience by the threat of its 10-15 million population of islamic descent. You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.
    , @Horzabky
    You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.

    Prime Minister Manuel Valls (a Spanish immigrant) has said publicly that it would be unthinkable to let the Front National win the presidency and be in charge of French nuclear weapons. There have been rumors (non confirmed, of course) that he asked legal advisers if there was some way the Front National could be outlawed.

    Now, what would happen if the political party 25% of the population votes for, was outlawed? Among many, the reaction would be, I think, passive-aggressive. Like some guy in charge of computer security discreetly sending the codes to the Chinese, or secretly sabotaging.

    In the USA, there's no equivalent of the Front National because of the strict two-party system, and ballot access laws which efficiently prevent the emergence of a third party. Even Bernie Sanders has to run as a democrat. In my opinion, the significant percentage of Americans who would vote for an American Marine Le Pen don't feel politically oppressed, because their party hasn't been outlawed, it only hasn't been allowed to enter the political playing field.
  32. @Anonymous
    I can't believe this sort of article represents mainstream thinking.

    It seems clear that there are enormous problems integrating the immigrants who are in Europe now...Merkle herself was saying Multiculturalism was a failure not so long ago (?)

    Europe can't integrate its recent immigrants, it has a gypsy population who are problematic outsiders after centuries...it's just a wildly reckless flight of fancy to even be thinking about what this column is proposing.

    Something is going to snap. If there is no rational voice opposing this madness Europe is over. Perhaps this is the future Europeans want, but I can't believe it.

    This is a twilight zone moment we are living through. Hopefully sanity prevails.

    I can’t believe this sort of article represents mainstream thinking.

    It’s not thinking it’s propaganda. Unfortunately it becomes mainstream non-thinking just from the sheer daily weight of it coming out of the media – and critically – the same media preventing an opposing view.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  33. The serene arrogance of media bishops such as this Eduardo Porter is truly stunning. I swear, it is time to dress mediacrats, university teachers and other kind of professional lobbyists with white robes and ceremonial trinkets, the scenery will make much more sense.

  34. “The one thing that stood out as this empirical way of running an empire grew up was that the answer to most problems was: Don’t do anything.
    Always King Log, never King Stork — “Live and let live.” “Let well enough alone.” “Time is the best physician.” “Let sleeping dogs lie.” “Leave them alone and they’ll come home, wagging their tails behind them.”
    Even positive edicts of the Imperium were usually negative in form: Thou Shalt Not Blow Up Thy Neighbors’ Planet. (Blow your own if you wish.) Hands off the guardians of the Gates. Don’t demand justice, you too will be judged.
    Above all, don’t put serious problems to a popular vote.”
    Glory Road

  35. My alternative plan is

    1) a giant wall like Israel’s around the south-eastern edge of Europe with automated machine guns.

    2) retake North Africa for Christendom and build a wall along the desert.

  36. @Wilkey
    Securing the border is impossible (unless you're Israel or Japan), but eliminating the education and income gaps between the races is like totally doable.

    One way that it would be easier to secure your borders: eliminate immigration from non-white countries. It would be incredibly easy to identify African and Asian illegal immigrants if the population of Europe were almost entirely white. It would be as simple as picking out the black or Asian man.

    Good idea about eliminating non-white immigration. But all the morons in power would call that racism and they don’t want to be racist because somehow that has been decided to be the one way they measure if someone is moral. You can do whatever you want as long as you are for diversity.

  37. OT: Somewhat Sailerish piece in the Daily Beast about the influence of “Iranian-Americans” in the recent deal.

    • Replies: @wren
    Yes, I read through that waiting for connections to other people I read about, but never saw any.

    But that is a start for me to understand what is going on.
  38. Gee, when was the last time ‘juggernaut’ was used in relation to Europe?

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Soviet-Juggernaut-World-Series/dp/0809433877

    Syrians aren’t the worst.

    What EU really need to fear is the jiggernaut from Africa.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A Migration Juggernaut Is Headed for Europe

    What EU really need to fear is the jiggernaut from Africa.

     


     
    Damn. I was just going to introduce the word juggerboo.
    , @Anonymous
    If the migrants were Christian Africans, it would be OK to Europe. There would be more crime and SJW meltdowns, but no one would get the sense of being conquered by a foreign power.
  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think it’s time that old anglo classic “i vow to thee my country” got a reboot:

    I Vow To the Refugee My Country

    I vow to the refugee my country all benefits above,
    Immigration, legal and illegal, an act of love;
    The love that causes traffic congestion, the love that passes no background test,
    That lays upon our shores the brightest and the best;
    The love that demographically alters, the love that works for a low price,
    The love that makes England a multicultural paradise .

    And there’s another country, I’ve heard of long ago,
    Most dear to conservatives that love her, most despised by goyim that know;
    We may not count her nuclear arsenal, we may not see her King;
    Her fortress is an iron dome that stops immigrants from coming in;
    And brick by brick and silently her border fences increase,
    And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

    • Replies: @WGG
    That was beautiful.
  40. Qatar has some extra room since many of their citizens are out of the country.

    For example, the Daily Mail shares this article about some Qataris just trying to fit in with their LA neighbors today:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235256/Driver-caught-Beverly-Hills-street-race-involving-5M-Ferrari-Porsche-claims-diplomatic-immunity.html

    I like the Bugatti he’s got parked out front, and wonder why he didn’t race that against the Ferarri.

    I hope to learn who it is.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan

    Qatar has some extra room since many of their citizens are out of the country.
     
    Dubai has extra room because they built these fantastic artificial islands in the Persian Gulf in which cities of hundreds of thousands can be housed. Maybe Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf Arabs can begin construction of more of these islands to handle not only the current refugee flow, but the inevitable continuation of this flow for the foreseeable future.
  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “In the end, the choice is clear. Europe’s best shot at prosperity is to build upon the diversity that immigration will bring.”

    The best explanation for this is that Eduardo personally profits if Western nations have open borders or that he is part of a super-secret KGB cell that is still executing “Destruction of Western Civilization fallback plan anti-KKK” (which is doing surprisingly well; maybe the West decided they had won it all and could just coast or retire or go to the zoo).

  42. So many of the news stories from Europe involve trains and trains.

    If this continues, European train system is gonna look like this:

    The EU Anthem: The Shove Train

    People all over the world (everybody)
    Join in (join)
    Start a love train, love train
    People all over the world (all the world, now)
    Join in (love ride)
    Start a love train (love ride), love train
    The next stop that we make will be England
    Tell all the folks in Russia, and China, too
    Don’t you know that it’s time to get on board
    And let this train keep on riding, riding on through
    Well, well
    People all over the world (you don’t need no money)
    Join hands (come on)
    Start a love train, love train (don’t need no ticket, come on)
    People all over the world (Join in, ride this train)
    Join in (Ride this train, y’all)
    Start a love train (Come on, train), love train
    All of you brothers over in Africa
    Tell all the folks in Egypt, and Israel, too
    Please don’t miss this train at the station
    ‘Cause if you miss it, I feel sorry, sorry for you
    Well
    People all over the world (Sisters and brothers)
    Join hands (join, come on)
    Start a love train (ride this train, y’all), love train (Come on)
    People all over the world (Don’t need no tickets)
    Join hands (come on, ride)
    Start a love train, love train
    Ride, let it ride
    Let it ride
    Let it ride
    People, ain’t no war
    People all over the world (on this train)
    Join in (ride the train)
    Start a love train, love train (ride the train, y’all)
    People all over the world (come on)
    Join hands (you can ride or stand, yeah)
    Start a love train, love train (makin’ love)
    People all over the world (’round the world, y’all)
    Join hands (come on)
    Start a love train, love train

    Merkel’s new favorite song:

  43. The rich history of immigration around the world suggests …

    What rich history of immigration around the world?

  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability?”

    Or perhaps “Argument by Assuming I’ve Already Won the Argument”. So shutup and do as you are told.

    Or perhaps “Argument by Crazy-Talk and Ignoring Anything Anyone Else Says”. Why would anyone even want to quibble with perfection, right? See these hands over my ears?

    Or “Argument by naming Molehill the Tide”. You can’t fight Mother Nature, right? Surrender already.

    Or “Zeno’s Argument of Un-Do Ability”. Nothing is do-able because you have to do half the work first. But to do half the work, you first have to do half of half the work. And so on forever. There is always a smaller half that you have to do first. Anything is an infinite amount of work, as any fool can plainly see. Trying to do an infinite amount of work is impossible. Lie back and enjoy it. All Cretans are Liars. Or was that the NYT?

  45. Even at this point, it’s probably too late for the EU. A nation’s will doesn’t pivot on a dime.

    When it comes to immigration, a rising tide carries more boats.

  46. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:
    @Luke Lea
    We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.

    BTW does anybody know where the maxim "demography is destiny" originated? I looked it up. Turns out the phrase was coined by Ben Wattenberg, a man who wrote that it was a matter of almost transcendent delight that the United States would soon be a country be without a white majority.

    “We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.”

    The fallacy you are describing is Begging the Question.

    “Europe will be invaded because we cannot/ will not stop the invasion.” The conclusion is the question. Basically, “Europe is being invaded because Europe is being invaded.” Then they follow that fallacy with another fallacy, circular reasoning, which justifies the “goodness” of the invasion because diversity for diversity’s sake. Yay.

    The most natural and important questions are deliberately left out:

    -Is it good for Europeans?

    -Is it moral to force it upon Europeans if they do not want it? Is that democracy?

    -What methods would be most effective to stop or stem the tide?

    -*Who is behind this invasion/ social engineering and on what plane do we fight them?* (Most important question.)

  47. Well, a little digging shows that the driver is likely the brother of the king of Qatar.

    But why is he in some suburban house in LA, and not in Qatar?

    He should be busy preparing for the world cup, not playing around like a 15 year old.

    http://www.autogespot.com/arabs:-from-london-to-la

    Same Bugatti and Ferarri.

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’ll be honest. Articles like this make me happy. Not because I care about immigrants. I’m indifferent. But I get sick and tired if all these happy white people with their small children running around everywhere. It gives me great pleasure to know their offspring might be subjugated in the next 50 years

  49. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    Is this is just the “broken window” economic theory at work, except the migrants are broken people instead of windows? Certainly they will create a huge need for housing, medical care, social services, etc. That stimulates the economy, for certain elites, at the expense of certain other citizens and their taxes.

    I’m so sick of the rulers and their tyrannical machinations. I can certainly respect the historical urge of our forebears to put their heads on pikes.

  50. @Luke Lea
    We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.

    BTW does anybody know where the maxim "demography is destiny" originated? I looked it up. Turns out the phrase was coined by Ben Wattenberg, a man who wrote that it was a matter of almost transcendent delight that the United States would soon be a country be without a white majority.

    We need a name for this rhetorical ploy. How about argument by inevitability? Hard to argue against the inevitable.

    Pat Buchanan has been mentioning this for a while now. He calls it the theory of inevitability in which the left browbeats the public with such news stories until the public believes resistance is futile, and they must go along. Unfortunately it works unless you have counter narrative that is as powerful.

    On a related note the open borders people in the US keep saying you cannot deport 11 million as seen recently by Jorge Ramos when he crashed Trump’s Iowa presser. But Trump did a great thing by forcing Ramos to admit that we should deport the gangbangers and other criminals. Ramos kept saying you cannot deport 11 million. Finally he relented, and then Trump said “I will deport those guys so fast your head will spin.”

    The great thing about that was that it changed the debate and instead of being told what we cannot do, Trump allowed us to focus on what we can do. I showed that video of Trump to a couple of friends who thought deportation was a nonstarter. Instantly their eyes lit up and the the light went on.

    Now if Trump can keep it up, he can expand the target of deportations to include not just the gangbangers, but the illegals as well. After all once talk of deportations is acceptable it acquires a momentum of its own. Once it contradicts the theory of inevitability, policy issues designed to repatriate the illegals can then be rationally discussed, and can no longer be dismissed out of hand.

  51. Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.

    Auf Deutsch bekannt als Lügenpresse in der Propagandaoffensive — in German, this is known as the lying media’s propaganda offensive.

    Nahles: Nicht einmal jeder zehnte Flüchtling für Arbeit oder Ausbildung qualifiziert

    Bundesarbeitsministerin Andrea Nahles hat für Ernüchterung im Hinblick auf die rasche Integration der nach Deutschland kommenden Flüchtlinge gesorgt. Die meisten Flüchtlinge seien nicht qualifiziert, um direkt in eine Arbeit oder Ausbildung vermittelt zu werden. Dies werde sich auch in der Arbeitslosenstatistik niederschlagen.

    The SPD labor minister went off message and said fewer than 1 in 10 are qualified for work or any kind of specialized job training — this will increase unemployment costs — generally this is seen as her making it clear that she does not want to be blamed for that — a kind of ‘I told you so’ in advance.

  52. European leaders probably don’t want to hear this now, as they frantically try to close their borders to stop hundreds of thousands of desperate migrants and asylum seekers escaping hunger and violence in Africa and the Middle East. But they are dealing with the unstoppable force of demagoguery.

  53. Milano can become like Mogadishu!

    Cote D’Azure can become like Cote D’Ivoire!

    Luxembourg can become like Lagos!

    Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, science has proved this would be a good thing.

  54. @FozzieT
    Wow, this article is rich. I love this bit:

    Perhaps it’s not surprising, as a recent report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found, that it is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries.
     
    Then why aren't the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums. They're a Muslim country located closer to the refugees' home countries than the E.U. Why aren't these wretched refugees making a beeline to Qatar?

    Then why aren’t the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums.

    The Qataris prefer Southeast Asians.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    The Israelis also prefer Southeast Asians. They are easier to badger and bully. You can take their passports, lock them up in little coops and barracks and intimidate them with ease. They take it all without a whimper. Much easier to manage than Arabs. The liberal Israeli press does periodic exposés. Lots of hand-wringing and ululating. Not much happens.
  55. @Wilkey
    Securing the border is impossible (unless you're Israel or Japan), but eliminating the education and income gaps between the races is like totally doable.

    One way that it would be easier to secure your borders: eliminate immigration from non-white countries. It would be incredibly easy to identify African and Asian illegal immigrants if the population of Europe were almost entirely white. It would be as simple as picking out the black or Asian man.

    Securing the border is impossible (unless you’re Israel or Japan), but eliminating the education and income gaps between the races is like totally doable.

    Yes, as Steve says, it will only require hiring millions more soft major diversicrats to manage the process.

    I’ve noticed whenever I see one of those warm fuzzy propaganda profiles of a non-murderous European Muslim, he seems to have some sort of social worker or welfare administration job.

  56. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Mexico looking more like Europe as US looking more like Mexico?

    Daley may have a learned a thing or two from Paris policy of sending non-whites to the suburbs, but the Mexican elites seem to have taken Banlieueing to a national scale. US is the ‘suburb’ onto which to dump the surplus population.

    You gotta love globalism. And Jeb sees this as an act of love.

  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s almost unbelievable, all those Eastern Europe Old Nazi countries blowing their big chance to get rich, RICH, I tell you… This is the kind of special offer that won’t last long, call now & get another 6-figure RefuJesus set absolutely free! More Twitter follows means you spend more time relaxing at home & on vacation while your Kosovar guest-army investment is busy making *you* money — just ask this 35-year-old ex-forklift mechaniker from Cologne!! He’s already retired on his winnings!!1!!¡eins!

  58. “Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.”

    The current mass of aliens entering the EU during this crisis are public charges from day one, the moment they step over the border.

    “The population of Africa, which has already grown 50 percent since the turn of the century, is expected to double by 2050, to 2.5 billion people. South Asia’s population may grow by more than half a billion. And Palestine’s population density is expected to double to 1,626 people per square kilometer (4,211 per square mile), three times that of densely populated India.”

    Why is it the responsibility of the developed world to accomodate these irresponsible people, rather than their responsibility to stop f**king so much? Why is the rate at which Africans or Palestinians procreate supposed to be my problem?

    People like this Eduardo Porter need to be publicly bitch-slapped and called out for the idiots that they are. The notion that Syrians and Germans are interchangable (especially economically) is so patently stupid that anyone saying it is obviously a ninny. These people are stupid and need to be recognized as such.

    • Agree: Kylie, Bill B.
  59. “Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.”

    If most Sub Saharan and MENA people who immigrate to Europe are highly educated, why is their poverty rate significantly higher than that of the native White European population.

    How come France, The U.K, Sweden and Germany do not have a Muslim version of Baldwin Hills Los Angeles.

    There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe. You won’t find any Muslim neighborhoods in London, Munich, Berlin, or Paris where the majority of them are doctors, lawyers, engineers, computer programmers, etc.

    • Replies: @helena
    Muslims understand biology. Evolution does not care about civilisation!

    "There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe."

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim or ... And the value of property in London is astronomical. Presumably the same will happen with other European cities. So much for white flight! Europeans will return to the swamps and marshes whence they came!
  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So, basically, he is advocating some sort of grand Jonestown cult.
    Europeans must commit mass suicide in order to appease some ‘higher calling’ – that is to give up everything to someone else – someone else who did absolutely nothing to build up Jonestown.

    What a sorry pass things have come to.

  61. @kihowi
    The only possible reason for pieces like this is hatred of Europe, right?

    "Africa is to explode and they're all going to be poor.
    The only way for us to be rich is to bring them over here.
    Not because they're different, because we're all the same.
    But because it would be diverse.
    But if they were diverse while in Africa, they'd still be poor."

    Nobody is this stupid.

    They *ARE* that stupid.

  62. @ogunsiron
    Eduardo knows that his audence is so docile, so well trained and so cucked that they won't even dare to point out the obvious about Israel being located right next to overflowing Palestine.
    It's amazing.

    I see that statement in a different light. By mentioning the Palestinians it seems like he’s subtly implying that Israel is part of Europe and that it too needs to open its borders. He’s doing it subtly because he doesn’t want to ruffle the feathers of the pro-Israel portion of NYT’s readers, but it’s a dog whistle for the anti-Israel portion.

    • Replies: @Sean
    He mentioned the Palestinians because they have high population density, which he needs to make his point. Israel already has an alien wedge (indigenous Arabs) as a greater proportion of the country than any EU county so it is hardly in the position of Germany which has relatively few. People need to understand that there are huge non European immigrants communities in Britain and France but Israel is less Jewish than France is French. One huge wave of immigration could seal the fate of Israel, so it is out of the question. They would expel the Palestinians before doing that. Robert Locke wrote an article for VDARE.com suggesting the involuntary transfer of Palestinians from all of Israel as a solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Expulsion was being talked about by some politicians not so long ago, when the demographics seemed to indicate a Palestinian majority was in the future . Of course the Palestinians had big families for that reason, now they are overcrowded. But it was never going to end with them taking over Israel.
  63. @Mandos
    Sorry dear Sir, but this is not going to happen. If she goes 40% in the second round of the presidential elections it will be an astonishing performance already.

    France is a socialist country dominated by leftist nutjobs and maintained in due obedience by the threat of its 10-15 million population of islamic descent. You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.

    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Marine Le Pen's path to victory is getting to the second round against a left-wing Socialist, or even better whatever the current far-left third party is.

    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.
     
    Not really. First, it was the disrespectable JM Le Pen who got to the run-off. And it wasn't really the mainstream left and right uniting so much as it was the left preferring the moderate right over the far right when those were their only two second round choices.

    Moderate French voters, however, do not have such a single obvious choice when faced with a decision between the respectable Marine Le Pen and a left-wing Socialist.

    , @Horzabky
    Exactly so. It did happen in 2002, during the runoff of the presidential elections. Only Jacques Chirac, the conservative candidate, and Jean-Marie Le Pen remained in the race. The left voted for Chirac, who won with 82% of the votes.
  64. @snorlax
    OT: Somewhat Sailerish piece in the Daily Beast about the influence of "Iranian-Americans" in the recent deal.

    Yes, I read through that waiting for connections to other people I read about, but never saw any.

    But that is a start for me to understand what is going on.

  65. Notice on the news that all directives that German officials give to Migrants are in English.

    So a German girl was about to be raped by 12 migrants.

    She called out “Nein, Nein, Nein”

    And 3 of them went off to look for a different girl.

  66. @anon
    The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans.

    Yes, it would have more impact on the uneducated if there was a ‘news’zine that published that single simple statement everyday until working people who do not read erudite analyses ‘got it’.

    The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans (the largest demographic replacement since the Bronze Age, 3000 years ago). ¿comprender?

    On second thoughts, they wouldn’t understand what demographic replacement means nor probably what primary driving force means!

    “What does it say?”
    “I’m not sure, something about cars replacing something in primary schools”

  67. @Priss Factor
    Gee, when was the last time 'juggernaut' was used in relation to Europe?

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Soviet-Juggernaut-World-Series/dp/0809433877

    Syrians aren't the worst.

    What EU really need to fear is the jiggernaut from Africa.

    A Migration Juggernaut Is Headed for Europe

    What EU really need to fear is the jiggernaut from Africa.

    Damn. I was just going to introduce the word juggerboo.

  68. @Anonymous
    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.

    Marine Le Pen’s path to victory is getting to the second round against a left-wing Socialist, or even better whatever the current far-left third party is.

    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.

    Not really. First, it was the disrespectable JM Le Pen who got to the run-off. And it wasn’t really the mainstream left and right uniting so much as it was the left preferring the moderate right over the far right when those were their only two second round choices.

    Moderate French voters, however, do not have such a single obvious choice when faced with a decision between the respectable Marine Le Pen and a left-wing Socialist.

  69. @Anonymous
    What will happen will be that the Gaullists and the leftists will unite to form one common political front against Marine Le Pen.
    It happened before.

    Exactly so. It did happen in 2002, during the runoff of the presidential elections. Only Jacques Chirac, the conservative candidate, and Jean-Marie Le Pen remained in the race. The left voted for Chirac, who won with 82% of the votes.

  70. @wren
    Qatar has some extra room since many of their citizens are out of the country.

    For example, the Daily Mail shares this article about some Qataris just trying to fit in with their LA neighbors today:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235256/Driver-caught-Beverly-Hills-street-race-involving-5M-Ferrari-Porsche-claims-diplomatic-immunity.html

    I like the Bugatti he's got parked out front, and wonder why he didn't race that against the Ferarri.

    I hope to learn who it is.

    Qatar has some extra room since many of their citizens are out of the country.

    Dubai has extra room because they built these fantastic artificial islands in the Persian Gulf in which cities of hundreds of thousands can be housed. Maybe Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf Arabs can begin construction of more of these islands to handle not only the current refugee flow, but the inevitable continuation of this flow for the foreseeable future.

  71. @George
    The EU has to invite the world because NATO invaded the world.

    nato is 99% usa though. as an american, shit, our govt fucked up hard.

    I wonder if this will finally turn western eu into anti usa.

  72. @Jefferson
    "Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse."

    If most Sub Saharan and MENA people who immigrate to Europe are highly educated, why is their poverty rate significantly higher than that of the native White European population.

    How come France, The U.K, Sweden and Germany do not have a Muslim version of Baldwin Hills Los Angeles.

    There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe. You won't find any Muslim neighborhoods in London, Munich, Berlin, or Paris where the majority of them are doctors, lawyers, engineers, computer programmers, etc.

    Muslims understand biology. Evolution does not care about civilisation!

    “There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe.”

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim or … And the value of property in London is astronomical. Presumably the same will happen with other European cities. So much for white flight! Europeans will return to the swamps and marshes whence they came!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    They all live in council houses.
    , @Jefferson
    "There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe.”

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim"

    If London elects a Muslim mayor, it still does not change the fact that there are still no affluent Muslim neighborhoods in London.

    Philadelphia for example has a Black mayor, but you will not find any affluent Black neighborhoods in Philadelphia.

  73. @Mandos
    Sorry dear Sir, but this is not going to happen. If she goes 40% in the second round of the presidential elections it will be an astonishing performance already.

    France is a socialist country dominated by leftist nutjobs and maintained in due obedience by the threat of its 10-15 million population of islamic descent. You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.

    You are way more likely to see the first countrywide purges of deviant citizens there than any kind of native population awakening.

    Prime Minister Manuel Valls (a Spanish immigrant) has said publicly that it would be unthinkable to let the Front National win the presidency and be in charge of French nuclear weapons. There have been rumors (non confirmed, of course) that he asked legal advisers if there was some way the Front National could be outlawed.

    Now, what would happen if the political party 25% of the population votes for, was outlawed? Among many, the reaction would be, I think, passive-aggressive. Like some guy in charge of computer security discreetly sending the codes to the Chinese, or secretly sabotaging.

    In the USA, there’s no equivalent of the Front National because of the strict two-party system, and ballot access laws which efficiently prevent the emergence of a third party. Even Bernie Sanders has to run as a democrat. In my opinion, the significant percentage of Americans who would vote for an American Marine Le Pen don’t feel politically oppressed, because their party hasn’t been outlawed, it only hasn’t been allowed to enter the political playing field.

  74. “Rather than fortifying borders, European countries would do better to improve on this record. The benefits would be substantial, for European citizens and the rest of the world.”

    How will the demographic replacement of European citizens be beneficial to them? It is becoming extremely harder these says to tell the NYT apart from the Onion. On second thought, comparing the New York Times to the Onion is actually an insult to the Onion. The Onion has more credibility than the New York Times.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    On second thought, comparing the New York Times to the Onion is actually an insult to the Onion. The Onion has more credibility than the New York Times
     
    The quality of The Onion itself took a drop when the staff left Madison for Manhattan.
  75. @helena
    Muslims understand biology. Evolution does not care about civilisation!

    "There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe."

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim or ... And the value of property in London is astronomical. Presumably the same will happen with other European cities. So much for white flight! Europeans will return to the swamps and marshes whence they came!

    They all live in council houses.

    • Replies: @helena
    I don't believe that. Muslim South Asians buy property.

    I had a small grant for work on my house 25 years ago and the period of time that had to elapse, before I could sell, rose from 1 to 5 years and I was told, off the record, that the increase was an attempt to stop extended families using the grant system as a way to create a property portfolio. Extended families can loan funds to each other, and move members around between properties. I also saw a TV programme some years ago about previous corner shop owners who are now big property developers.

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords. Muslims have to donate a certain portion of income to their Mosques. The East London Mosque is known for being radical so probably gets additional donations. So my guess is that there is a lot of Capital in the Muslim London community considering a 2-bed house in London costs $500,000-$million+.

    And what often gets missed out of the grooming narrative is that at base-line, it was a lucrative business set-up. The girls' bodies were sold and no tax was paid. The public outcry focused on attitudes to sexuality and childcare. The ring-leaders went to prison but where did the profits go?

    What is affluence; is it wealth or is it lifestyle?
  76. @helena
    Muslims understand biology. Evolution does not care about civilisation!

    "There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe."

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim or ... And the value of property in London is astronomical. Presumably the same will happen with other European cities. So much for white flight! Europeans will return to the swamps and marshes whence they came!

    “There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe.”

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim”

    If London elects a Muslim mayor, it still does not change the fact that there are still no affluent Muslim neighborhoods in London.

    Philadelphia for example has a Black mayor, but you will not find any affluent Black neighborhoods in Philadelphia.

    • Replies: @Sean
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html
  77. @Kyle McKenna
    Doubtless your question is rhetorical, but of course jobs have nothing at all to do with why the migrants are flooding into the Nordic countries & the UK.

    Qatar fails to make with the bennies, yo.

    I doubt the women of Qatar are loose/promiscuous either. Where’s the fun in that?

    • Agree: Kyle McKenna
  78. @Jefferson
    "Rather than fortifying borders, European countries would do better to improve on this record. The benefits would be substantial, for European citizens and the rest of the world."

    How will the demographic replacement of European citizens be beneficial to them? It is becoming extremely harder these says to tell the NYT apart from the Onion. On second thought, comparing the New York Times to the Onion is actually an insult to the Onion. The Onion has more credibility than the New York Times.

    On second thought, comparing the New York Times to the Onion is actually an insult to the Onion. The Onion has more credibility than the New York Times

    The quality of The Onion itself took a drop when the staff left Madison for Manhattan.

  79. @anony-mouse
    1/ The actual (non-Steve-o-sphere) European response to the flood of migrants:

    'Norway's anti-immigrant party set for worst election result in 22 years'

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-norway-election-idUKKCN0RE25620150914

    (Yes I know Norway isn't actually an EU member, but this is the first national election in Europe since the boy's photo unless you include the pro-migrant Corbyn victory)

    Apparently a lot of Europeans are lying back.

    2/ Instead of complaining about the NYT, which very few Europeans care about, or pretending that in all or virtually all European countries there's a groundswell of opposition to the migration it would be better intellectually (and emotionally) to try and figure out why this is not so.

    3/ Yes Israel is working hard to keep out migrants, but most Israelis aren't Europeans or descendants of Europeans, and those that are are mostly Eastern Europeans who comparatively less pro-migrant.

    Besides a lot of Europeans have Unz.com opinions of Israel so using Israel as an example isn't exactly advantageous.

    Actually in most European countries there is quite a lot of opposition to immigration. The polls consistently put the number of people answering “no immigration” or “just very limited immigration” as being either majority or largest group in pretty much whole Europe, including France, Poland and Germany. People who would advocate for no limits, or large number of immigrants are in minority.

    E.g. here

    “German citizens are somewhat more critical than the average of all Europeans surveyed, of which 57% are against immigrants from third countries. Opposition was higher than in Germany among respondents from Italy (75%), Latvia (79%) and Slovakia (74%).”

    http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/majority-germans-reject-immigration-outside-eu-312282

    • Replies: @Stubborn in Germany
    Interesting... thanks for posting this.

    The "ZDF Politbarometer" poll form earlier this month asked a different question, i.e., Can Germany handle the many refugees coming into the country? With 62 percent of Germans answering Yes. There is no reason to assume the 62 percent figure is inaccurate, as some commenters have done.

    But it's a different question from what was asked in the Feb 2015 poll, in which 61 percent of Germans rejected immigration from non-EU countries. Of course, in February there wasn't this round-the-clock onslaught of pro-immivasion propaganda in newspapers, in social media, on television (news, talk shows, local stories, dramas, documentaries) and on the radio. Mass brainwashing, rather than provoking an opposite reaction in the populace, really is effective.

  80. Refugees are bypassing Hungary and moving through Croatia. Croatia seems to be shipping them North to get them out fast. The problem with fences.

    The Israeli fence works IMO because the countries and rebels on the opposite side are cooperating with Israel.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome


    Refugees are bypassing Hungary and moving through Croatia. Croatia seems to be shipping them North to get them out fast. The problem with fences.

     

    Fences work for Hungary.
  81. @Priss Factor
    Gee, when was the last time 'juggernaut' was used in relation to Europe?

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Soviet-Juggernaut-World-Series/dp/0809433877

    Syrians aren't the worst.

    What EU really need to fear is the jiggernaut from Africa.

    If the migrants were Christian Africans, it would be OK to Europe. There would be more crime and SJW meltdowns, but no one would get the sense of being conquered by a foreign power.

  82. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:

    “Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.” In other words it was a waste of time for Europeans to go to college. They are just going to have to compete with people content with making a lot less money than they do now and will probably lose their jobs to them.

  83. @IHTG
    I see that statement in a different light. By mentioning the Palestinians it seems like he's subtly implying that Israel is part of Europe and that it too needs to open its borders. He's doing it subtly because he doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of the pro-Israel portion of NYT's readers, but it's a dog whistle for the anti-Israel portion.

    He mentioned the Palestinians because they have high population density, which he needs to make his point. Israel already has an alien wedge (indigenous Arabs) as a greater proportion of the country than any EU county so it is hardly in the position of Germany which has relatively few. People need to understand that there are huge non European immigrants communities in Britain and France but Israel is less Jewish than France is French. One huge wave of immigration could seal the fate of Israel, so it is out of the question. They would expel the Palestinians before doing that. Robert Locke wrote an article for VDARE.com suggesting the involuntary transfer of Palestinians from all of Israel as a solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Expulsion was being talked about by some politicians not so long ago, when the demographics seemed to indicate a Palestinian majority was in the future . Of course the Palestinians had big families for that reason, now they are overcrowded. But it was never going to end with them taking over Israel.

  84. @Jefferson
    "There are zero affluent Muslim neighborhoods in Europe.”

    Except that, the next Mayor of London will either be Muslim"

    If London elects a Muslim mayor, it still does not change the fact that there are still no affluent Muslim neighborhoods in London.

    Philadelphia for example has a Black mayor, but you will not find any affluent Black neighborhoods in Philadelphia.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html"

    That talks about wealthy Muslim tourists from the Gulf who vacation in The U.K during the summer. It says nothing about there being affluent neighborhoods in The U.K where Muslims with British passports are in the majority and Whites are in the minority.

    So I am still 100 percent correct when I say there are no affluent neighborhoods in The U.K that are affluent. Muslim neighborhoods in The U.K are all lower working class.

    There are a lot of wealthy Chinese people who vacation in Las Vegas for example, but it does not mean there are affluent neighborhoods in Las Vegas that are predominantly Chinese.

  85. @Kyle McKenna
    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it!

    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it

    !

    Another commenter called it begging the question, which it is of course, but of a special kind. It is not merely assuming that which needs to be proven but of positively asserting it. Argument by assertion would be another way of putting it, in this case asserting the inevitable. It is a form of fatalism, denying human choice in the matter, as if there were no free agency involved. You could say that those sophists who take this line are irresponsibly betraying their people. They should be denounced at every opportunity. Let us assert our freedom and not take it lying down. Otherwise we are not free human beings living in a democracy, nor do we deserve to be. A terrible legacy to leave to our children.

    • Replies: @anon
    It's a demoralization technique - torturers use it for example.
  86. @Anonymous
    They all live in council houses.

    I don’t believe that. Muslim South Asians buy property.

    I had a small grant for work on my house 25 years ago and the period of time that had to elapse, before I could sell, rose from 1 to 5 years and I was told, off the record, that the increase was an attempt to stop extended families using the grant system as a way to create a property portfolio. Extended families can loan funds to each other, and move members around between properties. I also saw a TV programme some years ago about previous corner shop owners who are now big property developers.

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords. Muslims have to donate a certain portion of income to their Mosques. The East London Mosque is known for being radical so probably gets additional donations. So my guess is that there is a lot of Capital in the Muslim London community considering a 2-bed house in London costs $500,000-$million+.

    And what often gets missed out of the grooming narrative is that at base-line, it was a lucrative business set-up. The girls’ bodies were sold and no tax was paid. The public outcry focused on attitudes to sexuality and childcare. The ring-leaders went to prison but where did the profits go?

    What is affluence; is it wealth or is it lifestyle?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    If you ever travel down to that nasty little sh*t hole, by name of Tower Hamlets, or should it be Tower Minnarets?, and take a look at all of those vast innumerable pre and post war council estates that litter that borough, and see who comes out of them, you will see virtually nothing but Bangladeshis.
    Of course, those estates were built by Cockneys, the genuine article, by Cockneys.

    Repeat the same exercise in the more salubrious City of Westminster, where council flats when they come on the market go for millions, and you will see common or garden Arabs or Pakistanis emerge from those flats.
    , @anon

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords.
     
    Yes to the first bit but less so to the second bit.

    The way it worked when this all started was extended families of say six couples got six council houses but then they all moved into two and rented out the other four.

    Over the years some of those early families who were effectively gifted large amounts of start up capital by the welfare system became mega landlords - those families also own lots of businesses and are responsible for importing huge numbers of illegal workers who they use to beat the legal competition.

    (Nowadays they are also into drugs and the money behind the organized crime part of the grooming gangs.)

    (Many years ago I had personal experience with a guy like this who used to pay a skinhead gang to attack Asians he wanted out of his properties so the police would assume it was racial and not slumlording.)

    So *most* Muslim south Asians live in the crummy council or ex-council housing where the native working class used to live but there is also a wealthy mercantile caste that developed over the last 50 years who are now mega landlords - so yes there is a lot of capital in the south Asian Muslim community but it's concentrated.

  87. “It is harder for immigrants to get a job in European Union nations than in most other rich countries. But that doesn’t explain why… their European-born children… suffer much higher rates of unemployment than the children of the native-born.”

    But…

    “Despite popular perceptions to the contrary, migrants are often highly educated, and they generally do not burden the public purse.”

    So… They can’t find a job in Europe, but they’re not on public dole. What do they live on? Air?

    And here we have the “we’re importing highly educated ‘talent’” excuse, again. But if they remain unemployed, what, exactly would the West need all this ‘talent’ for. Teaching belly-dance classes and Falafel Stuffing 101?

  88. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:
    @Anonymous
    I think it's time that old anglo classic "i vow to thee my country" got a reboot:

    I Vow To the Refugee My Country

    I vow to the refugee my country all benefits above,
    Immigration, legal and illegal, an act of love;
    The love that causes traffic congestion, the love that passes no background test,
    That lays upon our shores the brightest and the best;
    The love that demographically alters, the love that works for a low price,
    The love that makes England a multicultural paradise .

    And there's another country, I've heard of long ago,
    Most dear to conservatives that love her, most despised by goyim that know;
    We may not count her nuclear arsenal, we may not see her King;
    Her fortress is an iron dome that stops immigrants from coming in;
    And brick by brick and silently her border fences increase,
    And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvouc8Qs_MI

    That was beautiful.

  89. @Lot

    Then why aren’t the immigrants flooding other nations? Qatar, for example, seems to have an extra $200 billion laying around to spend on soccer stadiums.
     
    The Qataris prefer Southeast Asians.

    The Israelis also prefer Southeast Asians. They are easier to badger and bully. You can take their passports, lock them up in little coops and barracks and intimidate them with ease. They take it all without a whimper. Much easier to manage than Arabs. The liberal Israeli press does periodic exposés. Lots of hand-wringing and ululating. Not much happens.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "The Israelis also prefer Southeast Asians. They are easier to badger and bully. You can take their passports, lock them up in little coops and barracks and intimidate them with ease. They take it all without a whimper. Much easier to manage than Arabs. The liberal Israeli press does periodic exposés. Lots of hand-wringing and ululating. Not much happens."

    If an aging White senior citizen population wants to import lots of Nonwhites to change their diapers and help them bathe, it is better to choose Southeast Asian women over Arab Muslim men. One of those groups has a reputation for being nurses and caregivers at a disproportionate rate, while one of those groups does not.

    How many White senior citizens do you know have a caregiver named Muhammad or Habib? Not many Palestinian and Syrian Muslim men are going to want to feed, bathe, and change the diapers of a 90 year old Israeli or German man. But plenty of Filipina woman will have no problem taking that job.

    Southeast Asian women are seen the most docile and least threatening Nonwhite demographic group. White people can step all over them and take advantage of them.
  90. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea. Our civilization depends on a united strength among ourselves; on strength too great for foreign armies to challenge; on a Western Wall of race and arms which can hold back either a Genghis Khan or the infiltration of inferior blood; on an English fleet, a German air force, a French army, an American nation, standing together as guardians of our common heritage, sharing strength, dividing influence.

    Charles Lindbergh
    1939

  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @helena
    I don't believe that. Muslim South Asians buy property.

    I had a small grant for work on my house 25 years ago and the period of time that had to elapse, before I could sell, rose from 1 to 5 years and I was told, off the record, that the increase was an attempt to stop extended families using the grant system as a way to create a property portfolio. Extended families can loan funds to each other, and move members around between properties. I also saw a TV programme some years ago about previous corner shop owners who are now big property developers.

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords. Muslims have to donate a certain portion of income to their Mosques. The East London Mosque is known for being radical so probably gets additional donations. So my guess is that there is a lot of Capital in the Muslim London community considering a 2-bed house in London costs $500,000-$million+.

    And what often gets missed out of the grooming narrative is that at base-line, it was a lucrative business set-up. The girls' bodies were sold and no tax was paid. The public outcry focused on attitudes to sexuality and childcare. The ring-leaders went to prison but where did the profits go?

    What is affluence; is it wealth or is it lifestyle?

    If you ever travel down to that nasty little sh*t hole, by name of Tower Hamlets, or should it be Tower Minnarets?, and take a look at all of those vast innumerable pre and post war council estates that litter that borough, and see who comes out of them, you will see virtually nothing but Bangladeshis.
    Of course, those estates were built by Cockneys, the genuine article, by Cockneys.

    Repeat the same exercise in the more salubrious City of Westminster, where council flats when they come on the market go for millions, and you will see common or garden Arabs or Pakistanis emerge from those flats.

  92. @WhatEvvs
    Hungary means business:

    http://news.yahoo.com/border-free-europe-unravels-migrant-crisis-hits-record-110230875.html

    Hungary shuts EU border, taking migrant crisis into its own hands
     
    It's the showdown at the OK Corral.

    My bet is on Hungary. David v. Goliath.

    Hungary might just hold firm … if and only if the other three members of the Vishegrad group (Slovaka, Czechia, Poland) continue to stand with Hungary.

    But already Hungary’s ambassador to Romania has been called into the Romanian foreign office for a dressing down. The gall of Hungary, announcing they will build a fence with Romania!

    Never underestimate the power of the fierce German behemoth. Romania is poorer than Hungary and more dependent on German money.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs

    Never underestimate the power of the fierce German behemoth. Romania is poorer than Hungary and more dependent on German money.
     
    SiG-Ha, I certainly do NOT underestimate Germany. In any way - good or bad. It's because of commenters like you that I read this blog. Most of the people here (taking the lead of the blog-host) have an allergy to/obsesssion with Jews. They don't seem to understand that sometimes people do things for their own reasons, no Jews involved.

    I see this whole business as Germany's attempt to control Europe using the migrants/invaders as pawns. They will cause utter chaos in the Balkans. The migrants will do what 26 German divisions in Yugoslavia could not.

    But I don't see the Hungarians as backing down. They stood up to the Russians and they will stand up to the Germans. And they will stand up to the Americans. They are a remarkable people. Watch and learn. And remember: water cannon works.

    Vive la hongrie!
  93. Ultra macho, fence building, badass ethnostate Israel, just had to send in police to confiscate a cache of pipe bombs from the Temple Mount, bang in the centre of its capital, the same place that Jews are not allowed to enter with a bottle of water because they might say grace on it, thus offending Muslims who will respond by decking some random person, but Muslims are allowed to hold rallies calling for the murder of every Jew in Israel on weekly basis.

    I wish that more people on this blog would realise that, for better and worse, Mondoweiss and Electronic Intifada give you the same insight into Israel as Ta Nehisi Coates gives you into America.

  94. @szopen
    Actually in most European countries there is quite a lot of opposition to immigration. The polls consistently put the number of people answering "no immigration" or "just very limited immigration" as being either majority or largest group in pretty much whole Europe, including France, Poland and Germany. People who would advocate for no limits, or large number of immigrants are in minority.

    E.g. here

    "German citizens are somewhat more critical than the average of all Europeans surveyed, of which 57% are against immigrants from third countries. Opposition was higher than in Germany among respondents from Italy (75%), Latvia (79%) and Slovakia (74%)."

    http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/majority-germans-reject-immigration-outside-eu-312282

    Interesting… thanks for posting this.

    The “ZDF Politbarometer” poll form earlier this month asked a different question, i.e., Can Germany handle the many refugees coming into the country? With 62 percent of Germans answering Yes. There is no reason to assume the 62 percent figure is inaccurate, as some commenters have done.

    But it’s a different question from what was asked in the Feb 2015 poll, in which 61 percent of Germans rejected immigration from non-EU countries. Of course, in February there wasn’t this round-the-clock onslaught of pro-immivasion propaganda in newspapers, in social media, on television (news, talk shows, local stories, dramas, documentaries) and on the radio. Mass brainwashing, rather than provoking an opposite reaction in the populace, really is effective.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    The problem is that this formless rage must be channeled & solidified by competent leadership. And presently in W. Europe/Britain/US there is none. Why is a clown like Donald Trump so popular? Because he speaks the truth on immigration. There is no other reason. That's where the nasty business of the past (the Nazi card) comes into play. We don't have that problem in the US, but we have the racist card, which works nearly as well.

    Playing the Nazi card didn't work against Hungary - the press here tried mightily but the wonderful people of Hungary, knowing in their bones what occupation is, have stood firm against these childish insults. But the W.Europe/Britain/US are not made of such stern stuff. We care more about our reputations than our culture. That is why not one respectable politician sees Trump's success with the immivasion crisis and copies him.
  95. @Sean
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html”

    That talks about wealthy Muslim tourists from the Gulf who vacation in The U.K during the summer. It says nothing about there being affluent neighborhoods in The U.K where Muslims with British passports are in the majority and Whites are in the minority.

    So I am still 100 percent correct when I say there are no affluent neighborhoods in The U.K that are affluent. Muslim neighborhoods in The U.K are all lower working class.

    There are a lot of wealthy Chinese people who vacation in Las Vegas for example, but it does not mean there are affluent neighborhoods in Las Vegas that are predominantly Chinese.

    • Replies: @helena
    http://www.lancasterislamicsociety.co.uk/pg24217/About-us.html

    As I said above, it depends how affluence is defined/perceived. The linked page talks about Muslims moving to more affluent areas and increasing in number, and about the Mosque buying property and expanding. South Asian Muslims don't tend to display wealth. They extend their houses for inter-generational living but they don't tend to personalise the exteriors or spend their weekends turning the house into a little castle with pots of bedding plants, that will die in a couple of months, and gnomes and crazy paving like English folks do. Islam is about spreading and owning the territory on which it spreads. During Eid the men attending Mosque appear to be very well dressed and their perfume doesn't smell cheap.
    , @Sean
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9258361/sloane-rangers-vs-arabs-the-battle-for-sloane-square/

    They own the properties, which are in the most exclusive area of London and during Ramadan they arrive to drive around with their cars in deafening 'sports' mode, and get drugs, alcohol and whores.
  96. @Big Bill
    The Israelis also prefer Southeast Asians. They are easier to badger and bully. You can take their passports, lock them up in little coops and barracks and intimidate them with ease. They take it all without a whimper. Much easier to manage than Arabs. The liberal Israeli press does periodic exposés. Lots of hand-wringing and ululating. Not much happens.

    “The Israelis also prefer Southeast Asians. They are easier to badger and bully. You can take their passports, lock them up in little coops and barracks and intimidate them with ease. They take it all without a whimper. Much easier to manage than Arabs. The liberal Israeli press does periodic exposés. Lots of hand-wringing and ululating. Not much happens.”

    If an aging White senior citizen population wants to import lots of Nonwhites to change their diapers and help them bathe, it is better to choose Southeast Asian women over Arab Muslim men. One of those groups has a reputation for being nurses and caregivers at a disproportionate rate, while one of those groups does not.

    How many White senior citizens do you know have a caregiver named Muhammad or Habib? Not many Palestinian and Syrian Muslim men are going to want to feed, bathe, and change the diapers of a 90 year old Israeli or German man. But plenty of Filipina woman will have no problem taking that job.

    Southeast Asian women are seen the most docile and least threatening Nonwhite demographic group. White people can step all over them and take advantage of them.

  97. @George
    Refugees are bypassing Hungary and moving through Croatia. Croatia seems to be shipping them North to get them out fast. The problem with fences.

    The Israeli fence works IMO because the countries and rebels on the opposite side are cooperating with Israel.

    Refugees are bypassing Hungary and moving through Croatia. Croatia seems to be shipping them North to get them out fast. The problem with fences.

    Fences work for Hungary.

  98. @Jefferson
    "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html"

    That talks about wealthy Muslim tourists from the Gulf who vacation in The U.K during the summer. It says nothing about there being affluent neighborhoods in The U.K where Muslims with British passports are in the majority and Whites are in the minority.

    So I am still 100 percent correct when I say there are no affluent neighborhoods in The U.K that are affluent. Muslim neighborhoods in The U.K are all lower working class.

    There are a lot of wealthy Chinese people who vacation in Las Vegas for example, but it does not mean there are affluent neighborhoods in Las Vegas that are predominantly Chinese.

    http://www.lancasterislamicsociety.co.uk/pg24217/About-us.html

    As I said above, it depends how affluence is defined/perceived. The linked page talks about Muslims moving to more affluent areas and increasing in number, and about the Mosque buying property and expanding. South Asian Muslims don’t tend to display wealth. They extend their houses for inter-generational living but they don’t tend to personalise the exteriors or spend their weekends turning the house into a little castle with pots of bedding plants, that will die in a couple of months, and gnomes and crazy paving like English folks do. Islam is about spreading and owning the territory on which it spreads. During Eid the men attending Mosque appear to be very well dressed and their perfume doesn’t smell cheap.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "As I said above, it depends how affluence is defined/perceived. The linked page talks about Muslims moving to more affluent areas and increasing in number, and about the Mosque buying property and expanding. South Asian Muslims don’t tend to display wealth. They extend their houses for inter-generational living but they don’t tend to personalise the exteriors or spend their weekends turning the house into a little castle with pots of bedding plants, that will die in a couple of months, and gnomes and crazy paving like English folks do. Islam is about spreading and owning the territory on which it spreads. During Eid the men attending Mosque appear to be very well dressed and their perfume doesn’t smell cheap."

    Only 1 percent of Lancaster's population is Muslim. So Lancaster is an extremely horrible example of a so-called affluent Muslim community in The U.K.
    http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/?siteid=6120&pageid=41238
  99. @Luke Lea

    Argumentum inevitabilis, I like it
     
    !

    Another commenter called it begging the question, which it is of course, but of a special kind. It is not merely assuming that which needs to be proven but of positively asserting it. Argument by assertion would be another way of putting it, in this case asserting the inevitable. It is a form of fatalism, denying human choice in the matter, as if there were no free agency involved. You could say that those sophists who take this line are irresponsibly betraying their people. They should be denounced at every opportunity. Let us assert our freedom and not take it lying down. Otherwise we are not free human beings living in a democracy, nor do we deserve to be. A terrible legacy to leave to our children.

    It’s a demoralization technique – torturers use it for example.

  100. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @helena
    I don't believe that. Muslim South Asians buy property.

    I had a small grant for work on my house 25 years ago and the period of time that had to elapse, before I could sell, rose from 1 to 5 years and I was told, off the record, that the increase was an attempt to stop extended families using the grant system as a way to create a property portfolio. Extended families can loan funds to each other, and move members around between properties. I also saw a TV programme some years ago about previous corner shop owners who are now big property developers.

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords. Muslims have to donate a certain portion of income to their Mosques. The East London Mosque is known for being radical so probably gets additional donations. So my guess is that there is a lot of Capital in the Muslim London community considering a 2-bed house in London costs $500,000-$million+.

    And what often gets missed out of the grooming narrative is that at base-line, it was a lucrative business set-up. The girls' bodies were sold and no tax was paid. The public outcry focused on attitudes to sexuality and childcare. The ring-leaders went to prison but where did the profits go?

    What is affluence; is it wealth or is it lifestyle?

    My guess is that a lot of housing stock in East London is owned by South Asians and that many South Asians are landlords.

    Yes to the first bit but less so to the second bit.

    The way it worked when this all started was extended families of say six couples got six council houses but then they all moved into two and rented out the other four.

    Over the years some of those early families who were effectively gifted large amounts of start up capital by the welfare system became mega landlords – those families also own lots of businesses and are responsible for importing huge numbers of illegal workers who they use to beat the legal competition.

    (Nowadays they are also into drugs and the money behind the organized crime part of the grooming gangs.)

    (Many years ago I had personal experience with a guy like this who used to pay a skinhead gang to attack Asians he wanted out of his properties so the police would assume it was racial and not slumlording.)

    So *most* Muslim south Asians live in the crummy council or ex-council housing where the native working class used to live but there is also a wealthy mercantile caste that developed over the last 50 years who are now mega landlords – so yes there is a lot of capital in the south Asian Muslim community but it’s concentrated.

  101. Whenever they mention the greying populations of Europe (and Japan), they always fail to mention any desire to raise the birthrate among the native populations. “Migrants” aren’t needed. Just end immigration, kick out all of the non natives, ban all forms of birth control, and you’ll have a huge native European (and Japanese) baby boom. It’s a drastic measure for sure, but the survival of Western Civilization is well worth it.

  102. @helena
    http://www.lancasterislamicsociety.co.uk/pg24217/About-us.html

    As I said above, it depends how affluence is defined/perceived. The linked page talks about Muslims moving to more affluent areas and increasing in number, and about the Mosque buying property and expanding. South Asian Muslims don't tend to display wealth. They extend their houses for inter-generational living but they don't tend to personalise the exteriors or spend their weekends turning the house into a little castle with pots of bedding plants, that will die in a couple of months, and gnomes and crazy paving like English folks do. Islam is about spreading and owning the territory on which it spreads. During Eid the men attending Mosque appear to be very well dressed and their perfume doesn't smell cheap.

    “As I said above, it depends how affluence is defined/perceived. The linked page talks about Muslims moving to more affluent areas and increasing in number, and about the Mosque buying property and expanding. South Asian Muslims don’t tend to display wealth. They extend their houses for inter-generational living but they don’t tend to personalise the exteriors or spend their weekends turning the house into a little castle with pots of bedding plants, that will die in a couple of months, and gnomes and crazy paving like English folks do. Islam is about spreading and owning the territory on which it spreads. During Eid the men attending Mosque appear to be very well dressed and their perfume doesn’t smell cheap.”

    Only 1 percent of Lancaster’s population is Muslim. So Lancaster is an extremely horrible example of a so-called affluent Muslim community in The U.K.
    http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/?siteid=6120&pageid=41238

  103. @J1234
    This article - a Mexican telling Europe how to solve it's migrant crisis - kind of reminds me of an article I read in Newsweek several years ago. That article was written by a Jewish agnostic who was telling the Catholic church how to conduct it's business in one fashion or another. That's what I love about the left - they think it's impossible for them to come across as foolish or stupid. This makes them much less inhibited about saying foolish and stupid things. Or preaching from a position of ignorance.

    This article – a Mexican telling Europe how to solve it’s migrant crisis – kind of reminds me of an article I read in Newsweek several years ago. That article was written by a Jewish agnostic who was telling the Catholic church how to conduct it’s business in one fashion or another. That’s what I love about the left – they think it’s impossible for them to come across as foolish or stupid.

    Why does that appear foolish or stupid? That stuff works:

    http://www.fisheaters.com/jewsvaticanii.html

    • Replies: @J1234
    Wow...not really related to what I was talking about. I was talking about high minded public preaching by leftists in a prominent publication, not discussions between members of two different religions at a conference.
  104. @Jefferson
    "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716405/Streets-Knightsbridge-jammed-Arab-owned-supercars-wealthy-playboys-flock-London.html"

    That talks about wealthy Muslim tourists from the Gulf who vacation in The U.K during the summer. It says nothing about there being affluent neighborhoods in The U.K where Muslims with British passports are in the majority and Whites are in the minority.

    So I am still 100 percent correct when I say there are no affluent neighborhoods in The U.K that are affluent. Muslim neighborhoods in The U.K are all lower working class.

    There are a lot of wealthy Chinese people who vacation in Las Vegas for example, but it does not mean there are affluent neighborhoods in Las Vegas that are predominantly Chinese.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9258361/sloane-rangers-vs-arabs-the-battle-for-sloane-square/

    They own the properties, which are in the most exclusive area of London and during Ramadan they arrive to drive around with their cars in deafening ‘sports’ mode, and get drugs, alcohol and whores.

  105. @anon
    The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans.

    “The media are the primary driving force behind the deliberate demographic replacement of white Europeans.”

    Capital has a long history of weakening Labor by diluting it with cheaper foreign sources. When Labor resists, Capital immediately smears them with the “racist” label. Always it has been thus. What has changed is media participation. In previous eras, media was primarily in print, and had dual loyalties due to the nature of their revenue stream:

    Classifieds – split between Capital and Labor, and a lesser revenue source to begin with. Call it a draw.

    Advertisements – overwhelmingly Capital. People don’t advertise unless they’ve got something to sell.

    Subscriptions – heavily Labor. There are always more workers than owners.

    You can’t sell advertising unless you’ve got readers, and the majority of papers had to serve both audiences. But the new model is much different. Subscriptions and sales have plummeted. The new media serves only Capital, as that’s where its revenue stream originates. When people stopped directly paying for their information, they lost control of who the information purveyors served. Yes, media still requires “readership,” but where such readership used to be captured by serving Labor’s interests, it is now captured by serving them banal trivialities and mindless distractions. This is compounded by the demographic shift to a much younger target audience who were never big consumers of print, but are heavy “consumers” of internet. Labor no longer has any control over the media, and they are viewed as sheep to be herded in the direction that the highest bidder wishes.

  106. WhatEvvs [AKA "Danuta Tramp"] says:
    @Stubborn in Germany
    Hungary might just hold firm ... if and only if the other three members of the Vishegrad group (Slovaka, Czechia, Poland) continue to stand with Hungary.

    But already Hungary's ambassador to Romania has been called into the Romanian foreign office for a dressing down. The gall of Hungary, announcing they will build a fence with Romania!

    Never underestimate the power of the fierce German behemoth. Romania is poorer than Hungary and more dependent on German money.

    Never underestimate the power of the fierce German behemoth. Romania is poorer than Hungary and more dependent on German money.

    SiG-Ha, I certainly do NOT underestimate Germany. In any way – good or bad. It’s because of commenters like you that I read this blog. Most of the people here (taking the lead of the blog-host) have an allergy to/obsesssion with Jews. They don’t seem to understand that sometimes people do things for their own reasons, no Jews involved.

    I see this whole business as Germany’s attempt to control Europe using the migrants/invaders as pawns. They will cause utter chaos in the Balkans. The migrants will do what 26 German divisions in Yugoslavia could not.

    But I don’t see the Hungarians as backing down. They stood up to the Russians and they will stand up to the Germans. And they will stand up to the Americans. They are a remarkable people. Watch and learn. And remember: water cannon works.

    Vive la hongrie!

  107. WhatEvvs [AKA "Danuta Tramp"] says:
    @Stubborn in Germany
    Interesting... thanks for posting this.

    The "ZDF Politbarometer" poll form earlier this month asked a different question, i.e., Can Germany handle the many refugees coming into the country? With 62 percent of Germans answering Yes. There is no reason to assume the 62 percent figure is inaccurate, as some commenters have done.

    But it's a different question from what was asked in the Feb 2015 poll, in which 61 percent of Germans rejected immigration from non-EU countries. Of course, in February there wasn't this round-the-clock onslaught of pro-immivasion propaganda in newspapers, in social media, on television (news, talk shows, local stories, dramas, documentaries) and on the radio. Mass brainwashing, rather than provoking an opposite reaction in the populace, really is effective.

    The problem is that this formless rage must be channeled & solidified by competent leadership. And presently in W. Europe/Britain/US there is none. Why is a clown like Donald Trump so popular? Because he speaks the truth on immigration. There is no other reason. That’s where the nasty business of the past (the Nazi card) comes into play. We don’t have that problem in the US, but we have the racist card, which works nearly as well.

    Playing the Nazi card didn’t work against Hungary – the press here tried mightily but the wonderful people of Hungary, knowing in their bones what occupation is, have stood firm against these childish insults. But the W.Europe/Britain/US are not made of such stern stuff. We care more about our reputations than our culture. That is why not one respectable politician sees Trump’s success with the immivasion crisis and copies him.

  108. @ben tillman

    This article – a Mexican telling Europe how to solve it’s migrant crisis – kind of reminds me of an article I read in Newsweek several years ago. That article was written by a Jewish agnostic who was telling the Catholic church how to conduct it’s business in one fashion or another. That’s what I love about the left – they think it’s impossible for them to come across as foolish or stupid.
     
    Why does that appear foolish or stupid? That stuff works:

    http://www.fisheaters.com/jewsvaticanii.html

    Wow…not really related to what I was talking about. I was talking about high minded public preaching by leftists in a prominent publication, not discussions between members of two different religions at a conference.

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