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From the New York Times opinion page:

‘Watchmen’ Dares to Imagine a Righteous Black Vigilante

As with the original comic series, Damon Lindelof’s HBO show is critical of a society shaped by profound injustice.

By Jamelle Bouie
Opinion Columnist

Nov. 25, 2019, 6:00 a.m. ET

… But through an extended flashback, what we learn from this latest episode is that he was in fact a black man: a young New York City police officer in the late 1930s named Will Reeves (Jovan Adepo). …

After arresting a white man for setting fire to a Jewish deli, the young Reeves is beaten and nearly lynched by three white officers, who are leaders of the city’s Ku Klux Klan.

New York City’s Ku Klux Klan?

As he walks away from the site of the attack — bloodied and draped in a hood and a noose — he sees a mugging. He could walk away. Instead, he acts. He fights off the attackers. The next morning, the local paper notes the altercation. Hooded Justice is born.

Practically impotent as a black police officer, Reeves has power to act while under the hood. But the mask doesn’t conceal everything — the skin around his eyes still marks him as black. And so he wears makeup and gloves to conceal his racial identity, to let the public believe that their hero is a white man.

Reeves eventually joins a group of costumed vigilantes and works with them, hoping the entire time they will assist him in his fight against the Klan. But they refuse. His lover, a hero called Captain Metropolis (Jake McDorman), believes he is delusional — that there’s no threat to the city’s blacks other than themselves. Reeves takes things into his own hands. He finds the Klan hide-out. He kills everyone, including his fellow cops. He burns their building down and returns home. His wife, horrified by his violence, leaves with their son. And he decides to quit. Hooded Justice disappears.

… Again, What kind of society produces masked vigilantes? Who takes on the mask?

The answer? A society shaped by profound injustice, where the victims have little recourse. Reeves could have been killed as a child in Tulsa; he could have been lynched as an adult in New York. Nothing would have been done, because nothing was ever done. In the show (as well as our own world) there were few consequences for racial violence and terrorism.

That society would produce someone who sought to strike back, someone who would try to deliver justice to those whose power in a racial caste system puts them beyond accountability. The people motivated to take justice into their own hands would be those for whom the law is not an option for themselves and their communities.

It’s not a plot contrivance that Hooded Justice is black — it couldn’t be any other way. A society that brims with the unresolved pain and anguish of racial trauma can’t help producing a reaction. Hooded Justice is violent and uncompromising. He beats and kills and acts in contempt of the law. But HBO’s “Watchmen” suggests his crusade is fundamentally righteous — that his brutal work is necessary.

Our society does not have masked vigilantes meting out punishment to racists. But if there were a Hooded Justice — if our history of racial violence and trauma had produced an avenger, of sorts — then “Watchmen” seems to say that whether or not it’s right, it is justified.

It is worth noting that the last paragraph is largely in the present tense. It’s less a reference to the KKK and the lynchings rampant in the 1930s New York City inside Bouie’s brain, it is a reference to how a black vigilante “is justified” right now.

P.S., I haven’t watched any of the show, so I can’t tell you if this is exaggerated or out of context, but this plot line seems …

Logical Meme has the entire plot of the sixth episode that so excited Jamelle. Keep in mind this is all taking place in New York City in the 1930s, where the Irish cops were all secretly in the KKK and publicly lynched blacks.

After Reeves arrests a fat white racist guy, whom he caught nonchalantly torching a Jewish deli – some young white police officers (who are secretly KKK) string Reeves (who they know is a fellow police officer) from a tree with a noose, as a warning, but then release him. This leads Reeves to stagger home with the cut noose still hanging about his neck, looking quite a bit like Jesse Smollett.

A black film theater in the city — which is showing The Secret Life of Walter Mitty with Danny Kaye — experiences a (black) riot, which involves blacks attacking each other and destroying the theater. A white cop tells Reeves something to the effect of “This is what happens when you put a bunch of these animals in one cage together.”
Reeves then single-handedly uncovers a KKK factory operation, wherein nefarious KKK-Cyclops members insert subliminal, mind control celluloid frames into Hollywood films vis-à-vis manipulated film projectors, these subliminal messages designed to trigger blacks into attacking each other.

It’s like how Putin controls social media in the US.

When, over the phone, Reeves tells Captain Metropolis what has transpired at the theater, Captain Metropolis calls this in a “conspiracy theory that is unfounded”, and then says how “black people in Harlem cause riots all on their own.” But Reeves has saved the book that the white KKK Cyclops members left on a desk, a fictional book called Mesmerism for the Masses by W.C. Florentine. Reeves asks Captain Metropolis to bring the whole team to help him, but Captain Metropolis says this is “not our cup of tea” and that “you’re going to have to solve black unrest all on your own.”

The episode then becomes a black revenge fantasy bloodlust, like a first person shooter game, as Reeves (donning an impromptu Hooded Justice hood) begins shooting all the evil white people at the ‘implant-subliminal-messages-into-film-projectors’ factory: first, the fat racist guy, then in the warehouse Reeves starts popping off all of the white employees one by one. After all, we know they are all clansmen, which makes it okay. In the factory, these white guys were putting together the doctored film projectors. Reeves even walks into a projector room where one white guy is actively implanting voiceover elements into various films and/or projector devices, saying things like: “Do not harm any white man, woman, or child. Only harm each other.”

OK, this is by the “Lost” guy who totally wrote himself into a profitable hole that he was not clever enough to get out of, much to the disgust of fans who’d stuck with his series.

So it could turn out that these events are later revealed to be some kind of delusion. They are so hilariously stupid that they might turn out to be a put-on. Might.

But if they do, Jamelle Bouie would sure be disappointed.

 
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  1. Kronos says:

    I recall many liberal whites loved the character “Omar” from “The Wire.” The tough gay black man who brought justice and order against the Barksdale drug gang. The guy likely did more to take down the Barksdale organization than the Baltimore Police. (By killing and robbing of course…)

  2. J.Ross says:

    Isn’t the reason we’re not supposed to talk about Jewish crime because hyping false (if false they be) accusations could spur potentially uncontrollable popular violence? Doesn’t that idea coexist with twenty-four-hour-seven-day fantasizing about the evil white gentile and the NYCKKKK?
    Andy Ngo is censored after real journalism, after exposing himself to danger and getting attacked by modern communist thugs, censored because he pointed out real things actually happening, and Jamelle Bouie is free to write such sentences like “impotent as a policeman.” The good news is that apparently nobody watches The Watchmen.

    • Agree: Mishima Zaibatsu
  3. After Sarah Jeong, who can be surprised?

  4. The author, Jamelle Bouie, isn’t Jewish.

    He’s black.

    It’s hard to predict exactly where this crap will end, but one thing’s for sure.

    It’s all bad.

  5. eah says:

    OT

    Yes, it’s that time of year: the ADL has compiled a list, and they’re checking it twice.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Donald A Thomson
  6. Polynikes says:
    @Kronos

    But the genius of that character is that he was always an admitted unrepentant criminal, except that he had a code. He only robbed and killed those that were “in the game.” Nice white city-dwelling folks were off limits. Now *that’s* the type of fantasy nice white, city dwelling folks can delude themselves into loving.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  7. Rahan says:

    Jamelle Bouie–The Grand Wizard of Wokeness

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Sean
  8. It is worth noting that the last paragraph is largely in the present tense.

    This is well-noted. The impartial rule of law in the USA is a given — until it’s not.

    Note also this sentence from the penultimate paragraph:

    A society that brims with the unresolved pain and anguish of racial trauma can’t help producing a reaction.

    More present tense, although it’s still arguably the literary present tense in context. But this axiom is easily elided into the present situation; this is already the language of grievance studies and reparations manifestos and a million woke tweets. There is no agency, no moral responsibility for approved victims. They must react. They can’t help it.

    • Replies: @bomag
  9. @Polynikes

    It’s the Magical Negro Avenger.

    He kills all the “bad” blacks, proving that there are good blacks who could save themselves if only whitey didn’t oppress them for being black/gay/etc.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  10. Since Vox Day exposed that all lefties project….

    and after reading that chilling last paragraph….

    Can we now suppose all those tales about “secret redneck vigilantes murdering blacks who stepped out of line” ….

    were really blacks reversing the races?

    • Replies: @anon
  11. Arclight says:

    It’s unfortunate the famous French actor Jussie Smollett was unavailable to play hooded justice.

    • Replies: @Hail
  12. newrouter says:

    Do you think they might write something about the Democrats 1924 Klan bake in NYC?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_Democratic_National_Convention#%22Klanbake%22_meme

    lolgf

    > “Klanbake” meme widely in the following years, helped by the fact that Wikipedia claimed from 2005 to 2018 that the convention was “also called the Klanbake”.[4]<

  13. Global Citizen [AKA "Globalist Citizex"] says:

    an extended flashback

    Bad LSD? Induced psychosis?

    I won’t watch The Wokeman.

  14. eah says:
    @eah

    And we can’t say “It’s OK to be white” either.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  15. Jack D says:

    New York City’s Ku Klux Klan?

    NY did have a KKK in the 1920s. (The KKK has had several different incarnations and the one in the 20s was sort of a racist Elks club/pyramid scheme for selling Klan regalia.) Trump’ daddy was a member.

    https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/mar/28/facebook-posts/heres-whats-known-about-fred-trumps-arrest-after-k/

    This KKK had nothing to do with any later or earlier KKK just as today’s “Nazis” have no connection with the NSDAP.

    Later in the ’60s there was a small KKK in NY until a NY Times reporter outed its leader as being Jewish. I kid you not. The poor man then killed himself (the Jewish Klansman, not the reporter).

    https://www.nytimes.com/1965/10/31/archives/state-klan-leader-hides-secret-of-jewish-origin-klan-leader-here.html

    For some reason, Queens seems to be the preferred location for NY KKK’ers.

  16. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Maine had a KKK in the 1920s. Its main targets were people from a French-Canadian background.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @AceDeuce
  17. Rahan says:

    By the late 1980’s Russian viewers were cheering when Rambo or Bond was shooting Russian conscripts while liberating dreamy Afghan freedom-fighters.

    Young Russians were telling each other how backward Russia is, reveling in every possible “crime” or “genocide” of the past, groaning orgasmically “we were worse than Nazis”, and desecrating some symbol of authority was a virtue.

    While the inarticulate silent majority began the pushback simply by voting for Putin, the articulate pushback began for real circa 2008. Today the horrors of Stalinism and Tsarism are seen in context–they happened in a world of horrors. Today predatory behavior is seen in context–it happened in a world of predators and victims. And so on.

    Slowly, the discourse of “we Russians are monsters and deserve to have a boot in our face, forever” was squeezed out of the public sphere, and replaced with “eh, we are what we are, take it or leave it”.

    Today, there isn’t a single mainstream political party, or a single mainstream media, that concentrates on “we Russians are monsters and deserve to have a boot in our face, forever”. At most a couple of mini parties and mini medias try to keep a tally on present day corruption, and not allow patriotism to obscure past monstrosities, which is actually a good thing, when kept within reason.

    Summary: if strong and willing leaders gradually start changing the national culture back to sanity, a decade later the saboteurs and traitors will mostly have lost their hold over society.

    It’s one thing to 1) admit past mistakes and crimes, it’s another to 2) see everything in life through this filter. Saboteurs and traitors pull a fast one, claiming that 1) is good, and 2) is even better, because it’s a turbo-version of 1).

    No. 1) is fine, 2) is pathology.

    (I just posted this beneath the wrong article, however it was meant for here, cough)

    • Replies: @Sam Malone
  18. Lugash says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s hard to predict exactly where this crap will end, but one thing’s for sure.

    It’s all bad.

    America’s on a path to widespread violence. I want this to change, but I see nothing that indicates it will.

    One of the plot points of this episode was that the Klan was using ‘mesmer’ techniques placed in movies to cause black on black violence. I know it’s a comic book movie, but it’s bizarre.

    Edit: If you haven’t seen it, check out Saira Rao’s background on Twitter.

    • Replies: @bomag
  19. Ironically, the Watchman’s creator (of the source material not the show) credits the KKK and “Birth of a Nation” as the source for the superhero genre.

    “I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks.”

  20. For some reason, Queens seems to be the preferred location for NY KKK’ers.

    There was an All In The Family episode in which some of Archie’s drinking buddies turn out to be in the Queens Klan. They wanted to burn a cross on George Jefferson’s lawn, or something. Gloria and Meathead are horrified.

    But Archie stands up to them, showing that he may be a bigot but he’s no White Supremecist. All is redeemed.

  21. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    A fair number of “wascally white wascists” have been outed as actually Jewish over the years.

    As has been mentioned before, there is no “The Klan”. Anyone can call themselves “the something somethings of the Ku Klux Klan” and many have over the years. Do that with The United States Marine Corps, The Society of Jesus, or The Hell’s Angels Motorcycle Club and you will find out that there 1) already is one and 2) you are not it and 3) you will really wish you had not.

    Broadly speaking there were several “eras” of KKK activity, each with totally different methods, goals and general demeanor. But the last two Klan Eras were mostly marked by these groups consisting largely of nutcases and/or FBI, ATF , $PLC or ADL informers and agents provocateur.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  22. Jack D says:
    @Glaivester

    In addition to being anti-Jewish the 2nd Klan (refounded in 1915) was also anti-Catholic (and pro-Prohibition).

    Down the street where I lived in south Jersey there was a former KKK hall. After the 2nd KKK collapsed in the ’40s, a Jewish couple bought it and used the building as a chicken coop. I kid you not.

  23. Haven’t they ever shopped for groceries in Valley View, CA? I hear it’s like the fountain of youth, except for ethnic strife.

  24. Peterike says:

    (((Damon Lindelof’s))) HBO show.

    Gosh.

  25. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Irish Catholic cops were natural allies of all incarnations of the Klan.

  26. syonredux says:
    @Jack D

    In addition to being anti-Jewish the 2nd Klan (refounded in 1915) was also anti-Catholic (and pro-Prohibition).

    …..And yet WATCHMEN would have us believe that a militantly anti-Catholic organization like the the 1920s Klan somehow managed to secretly control the heavily Irish Catholic NYPD….

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  27. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    So, Watchman’s origin story is a hate hoax, complete with noose?

  28. black sea says:

    But if there were a Hooded Justice [unreal or hypothetical condition in the present] — if our history of racial violence and trauma had produced an avenger [unreal or hypothetical condition in the past], of sorts — then “Watchmen” seems to say that whether or not it’s right [simple present tense], it is justified [simple present tense].

    This sentence is not just a jumble of past and present, it’s a jumble of the real and the hypothetical. Grammatically, these combinations don’t make sense, but as you point out, they do perhaps reveal something about the writer’s state of mind, or at least his confusions about the passage of time and the conditions of reality.

    • Agree: ic1000
  29. Kronos says:
    @Jack D

    Didn’t they associate alcohol with Catholicism? I always wondered if there was a “secret” history of Prohibitionists in alliance with the Klan.

    • Replies: @mmack
    , @donut
    , @Alden
  30. OK, this is by the “Lost” guy who totally wrote himself into a profitable hole that he was clever enough to get out of.

    Steve, you’ve told us that you never watch more than the first half dozen episodes of any ongoing series, but if you were told that Damon Lindelof, the writer of “Lost,” managed to write himself out of the hole he had written himself into, you were misinformed. The end of that series left countless mysteries unsolved, many of them listed here:

  31. @Jack D

    Down the street where I lived in south Jersey there was a former KKK hall. After the 2nd KKK collapsed in the ’40s, a Jewish couple bought it and used the building as a chicken coop. I kid you not.

    Vineland?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  32. syonredux says:

    P.S., I haven’t watched any of the show, so I can’t tell you if this is exaggerated or out of context, but this plot line seems …

    You really should, Steve. It’s an SJW fever dream brought to the screen…..

    Some stray observations:

    Jussie Smollett, superhero: The whole business with the Black+Gay Hooded Justice makes perfect sense when you understand that it’s Lindelof’s take on Jussie Smollett…Only, in the WATCHMEN universe, Jussie actually was attacked by racists and responded by turning into an ultra-violent masked antifa superhero…

    White Devil Steals Everything From Blacks: In WATCHMEN, the Lone Ranger was based on Black lawman Bass Reeves*….And the first superhero is the Black +Gay Hooded Justice….

    The real Superman is Black: The Tulsa riots are explicitly likened to the destruction of Krypton, with the Black+Gay Will Reeves (AKA Hooded Justice) as Kal-El…

    *Which is not true:

    https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/41b57b_65fd2f2e944846ddbfa937d8449a43cf.pdf

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Alden
  33. Hail says: • Website
    @Arclight

    actor Jussie Smollett was unavailable

    Actually I believe he is available.

    Isn’t he suing someone for defaming him, being that he was cleared by Kimm Foxx?

  34. syonredux says:

    The actual history of the KKK in interwar NYC:

    Walker, [Jimmy Walker, mayor of NYC from 1926 to 1932] born an Irish Catholic, was closely associated with Al Smith, the new governor of New York who was also Catholic. Both were Democrats and also aligned with the needs of the city’s Irish community. (Not to mention Tammany Hall, the political organization whose power had diminished since its Gilded Age glory days.)

    A rising swell of anti-KKK sentiment in New York City came in 1921 with the publication of a series of damning articles in the New York World, effectively neutralizing the klan’s influence in denser portions of the city. Mayor John Hylan “launched an all-out war” on the KKK, throwing them out of Manhattan wherever possible.

    In no uncertain terms, Hylan declared, “Do not leave a stone unturned to ferret out these despicable, disloyal persons who are attempting to organize a society the aims and purposes of which are of such a character that were they to prevail, the foundation of our country would be destroyed.”

    By early 1923, Walker was the state senate leader and introduced a bill into the chamber, placing limits on ‘oath-based associations’ that would require them to file a list of their membership with the state. The Klan were essentially being unmasked; the names of their members would become public record.

    *The bill exempted labor unions and, “officially chartered benevolent orders” like the Elks Lodge.

    The bill swept through the state senate, (barely) made it through the assembly, before landing on Governor Smith’s desk for a swift passage.

    The spirit of the law was more powerful than its specifics. The Ku Klux Klan was effectively turned into an illegal organization that day. Many states would use Walker’s tactics in crafting their own anti-Klan laws.

    The Klan attempted to overturn Walker’s law, taking it all the way to the Supreme Court. On November 20, 1928, the court upheld the law, specifically marking the klan as a terrorist group, “its members disguised by hoods and gowns and doing things calculated to strike terror into the minds of the people.”

    Once the Great Depression arrived, the organized KKK was all but gone in the New York region, retreating to “a shadowy existence in the South.”

    http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2017/08/jimmy-walker-vs-ku-klux-klan.html

    • Replies: @notsaying
  35. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Glass vs Joker. Which is better?

  36. Dtbb says:

    Isn’t this the guy with the white wife? I hope she sleeps with one eye open

    • Replies: @Kylie
    , @Telegram to Miami
  37. @Harry Baldwin

    Sorry, my typo: Lindelof was NOT clever enough to get himself out of his Lost holes.

  38. @Colin Wright

    I thought it was a woman. Nope,its a male.And a very dark one! I wonder if he is Haitian. I wonder what goes on in his so-called mind when he looks at whites,the people who he can’t live without.

    • Replies: @dcthrowback
  39. Reeves then single-handedly uncovers a KKK factory operation, wherein nefarious KKK-Cyclops members insert subliminal, mind control celluloid frames into Hollywood films vis-à-vis manipulated film projectors, these subliminal messages designed to trigger blacks into attacking each other.

    LOL sounds just like that whole African evil spirits stuff.

  40. JohnnyD says:

    Apparently, Irish Catholics were the backbone of the Klan. You learn something new everyday! But in all seriousness, this is another example of ignorant leftists thinking all white people are the same.

  41. MattinLA says:

    I’ve met Lindelof in person and have seen at close range now he operates. He’s a dim-witted homosexual who has succeeded via an extremely developed talent at Brown-nosing to the powerful and connected. This latest “masterpiece” is just a variation of this: his suck-up instinct indicates that extreme anti-white content will bring plaudits from the high and mighty, so he is blindly (and ham-handedly) delivering it.

    • Agree: HammerJack, Desiderius
    • Replies: @Mike Street Station
  42. Dr. X says:

    I suspect that most everybody who reads Unz Review has already figured this out… but these people are clearly telegraphing that when we reach the magic date of 2040 or whenever it is that the U.S. becomes “majority minority,” they plan to treat whites here exactly the way that whites are treated in Zimbabwe and Afrikaners are treated in SA.

    Of course, they plan to disarm you first.

    Our forefathers understood that race relations are always a zero-sum game…

  43. @Jack D

    For some reason, Queens seems to be the preferred location for NY KKK’ers.

    Queens was in some ways America’s first suburb. The Ramones were from a decidedly suburban part of Queens.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  44. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    Couple of additional notes on WATCHMEN:

    Do the Police in Different Voices: When Gay+Black Will Reeves dons his Hooded Justice disguise, he puts Caucasoid-colored makeup on the parts of his face that show, all in an attempt to make people think that he’s a White man…..But he still speaks with an AAVE (African-American Vernacular English) accent…..

    Wait, are you trying to tell me that the OK sign isn’t a White Supremacy signal: The Klan Kops all use the sign of the cyclops (thumb-and-forefinger forming a circle while positioned over the forehead)…..

  45. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    There are a few examples of this already.

    Netflix has released ‘In the Shadow of the Moon’ which follows a shaven-headed mixed race women in a hoodie who travels back in time to brutally kill the deplorable white nationalists who started the American civil war. Seems like a cross between Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and Django Unchained.

    I find the amount of gore depicted from the victims, particularly the blonde woman interesting.

    Basically the white investigating cop ultimately realises the killer is his mixed race grand-daughter from his somewhat estranged daughter and lets her carry out her mission. A kind of reverse Terminator.

    There was obviously the infamous Good Fight ‘Antifa’ (Actually race war) trailer that even the demented makers admitted crossed a line.

    Coming soon is ‘Black and Blue’ which depicts a black female rookie cop witnesses an execution by corrupt white cops who try to take her out but she manages to escape with her bodycam footage and has 12 hours to get out of the hood with every police, swat and criminal (Called out to hunt her down by the same corrupt cops who are in league with the local crime boss) out to get her before the footage is overwritten.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  46. El Dato says:
    @Rahan

    If you turn it around it becomes Béchamel.

    Béchamel sauce, also known as white sauce, is made from a white roux and milk. It has been considered, since the seventeenth century, one of the mother sauces of French cuisine. It is used as the base for other sauces.

  47. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    The KKK was very popular with Catholics alright, particularly Northern urban ones of recent Irish immigrant origins.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Alden
  48. @Harry Baldwin

    The story editor ( main writer ) for seasons one and two ( Javier Grillo-Marxauch ) left the show for his own series after the second season. The show never recovered and by the halfway point of the season three, the plotlines had become an incomprehensible mess. Lindelof let his crony Carlton Cuse become the main guy vetting/writing stories, and when people complained, he dug in his heels and called the fans a bunch of meanies.

  49. Reeves could have been killed as a child in Tulsa;

    By Paul Harvey? Daniel J Boorstin? Tony Randall?

    he could have been lynched as an adult in New York.

    There have been only two lynchings in postbellum New York. The whole state, not just the city. Only one was black.

    https://www.famous-trials.com/sheriffshipp/1083-lynchingsstate

    • Replies: @syonredux
  50. @syonredux

    Sorry, but I’m afraid Ezra Pound has had to red-pencil the first half of your comment.

  51. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    OK, this is by the “Lost” guy who totally wrote himself into a profitable hole that he was not clever enough to get out of, much to the disgust of fans who’d stuck with his series.

    So it could turn out that these events are later revealed to be some kind of delusion.

    I think Lindelof had more or less been written into a corner that would have no satisfying resolution by JJ Abrams and the pilot of Lost. man. Though not considered as bad as Kurtzman, he has co-written all the worst and most nonsensical Kurtzman screenplays. It might be that he comes off as smarter in interviews. But he has never used a ‘it was all a dream’ get-out elsewhere.

    Actually it brings up an interesting example of blatant ethnic networking in Hollywood. Despite their endless anti-Midas touch, the JJ Abrams gang keep getting bigger and bigger opportunities and paydays thanks to them employing each other. I mean, JJ Abrams killed the golden goose of Star Wars. Can you do anything worse for your career as a big budget director? Why wasn’t he and his ‘mystery box’ finally run out of Hollywood along with his moronic screenplay writing buddies?

    Lindelof’s Wikipedia page doesn’t mention it about his ‘frequent collaborators’ but they are to a man Jewish or half-Jewish.

    Lindelof frequently collaborates with a tightly knit group of film professionals which include (((J.J. Abrams))), (((Adam Horowitz))), (((Alex Kurtzman))), (((Roberto Orci))), (((Edward Kitsis))), (((Andre Nemec))), (((Josh Appelbaum))), (((Jeff Pinkner))), and (((Bryan Burk))).

    Of course, it also mentions that he grew up a diverse environment but funny how that didn’t influence the type of people he collaborated with to massive financial gain for not very hard work.

    “I was a Jewish white kid growing up in Teaneck, but at the same time, I had African and Filipino and Asian friends and to have that experience all through high school while getting an awesome education was wonderful.”

    • Replies: @Pericles
  52. I’ve watched every episode of this show and it’s easily the most anti-white show I’ve ever seen, with several bits being unintentionally hilarious. It’s hard to shake the feeling though that most liberals believe history happened as portrayed in the show, and that there will be a continued effort to rewrite our history this way.

    HBO has lots of anti-white programming. I’d like to see the demographics of their subscriber base.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Gunner
  53. “That society would produce someone who sought to strike back, someone who would try to deliver justice to those whose power in a racial caste system puts them beyond accountability. The people motivated to take justice into their own hands would be those for whom the law is not an option for themselves and their communities.”

    The chutzpah!

    Also, speaking of castes, what’s a Hindi term that denotes something similar to chutzpah?

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @J.Ross
  54. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  55. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reeves could have been killed as a child in Tulsa;

    To the best of my knowledge, no children died in the 1921 Tulsa race riot.There was a stillborn infant, though.And, while I’m on it, all of the confirmed deaths are male. And the high numbers of deaths that you see people tossing around (100 to 300) are just pulled out of thin air. The official tally from The Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 is 39 deaths(counting the stillborn infant), 26 Blacks and 13 Whites.

    https://www.okhistory.org/research/forms/freport.pdf

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @WJ
  56. TGGP says: • Website

    I never watched “Lost”, but Lindelof and Perrotta’s TV adaptation of “The Leftovers” was good enough I figure I’ll check this out eventually.

  57. @Jack D

    In addition to being anti-Jewish the 2nd Klan (refounded in 1915) was also anti-Catholic (and pro-Prohibition).

    Around here, the Catholics were German, French, and Irish. But the Slovaks were Lutheran, so they weren’t considered as alien. No kidding.

    I’m not sure how many were suckered into buying the robes, though. Plus, Lutherans outside Scandinavia like their beer.

    For a short time I thought the Klan met in what’s now our apartment. But it turns out they used a nearly identical building down the street that later caught fire and was demolished. So much for our brush with history.

  58. Kylie says:
    @Dtbb

    “Isn’t this the guy with the white wife?”
    Yes.

    “I hope she sleeps with one eye open”
    Why?

  59. nebulafox says:
    @Clifford Brown

    We’re a happy family, we’re a happy family, me, Mom and Daddy…

    Sittin’ here in Queens…

    • Replies: @Thud
  60. syonredux says:

    It sure seems like Watchmen turned Donald Trump’s father into one of its racist villains

    The possible Trump “reference” happens partway through the episode during a memory of when Will was just starting out as a cop and encounters a man named Fred. Will witnesses him break a window and set a Jewish deli on fire on Jamaica Avenue in Queens. Will approaches him, asks him what his name is, the man replies with “Fred,” and Will promptly arrests him.

    Will clashes with Fred again at the end of the episode when he tracks down Cyclops members who are using mind control projector devices to get black people to attack one another. Two Cyclops members are seen loading a projector into a car with its windows marked F.T. & Sons, and Will tracks them to the central F.T. & Sons warehouse.

    It’s then that Will puts it together that Fred owns the warehouse and is one of Cyclops’s ringleaders. He attacks Fred and kills him. It’s also then that the idea crystallizes that Fred — “F.T.” — is Fred Trump.

    One of the writers on the show also tweeted a cryptic message hinting at the Fred Trump comparison:

    Look up who owned Queens first supermarket… #Watchmen

    — Claire Kiechel (@clairekiechel) November 25, 2019

    In real life, Fred Trump, like Watchmen’s “Fred,” owned a market in Queens on the corner of Jamaica Avenue and 78th Street. It opened in 1933 — around the time that Will Reeves would’ve been active on the police force — and is described by the Woodhaven Cultural and Historical Society as the “first supermarket of its kind in this part of Queens.”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/11/25/20981767/watchmen-episode-6-fred-trump-recap

  61. syonredux says:
    @Altai

    Yep. In 1927, the Klan distributed a flier attacking the “Roman Catholic police of New York City”:

    The predication for the Klan to march, according to a flier passed around Jamaica beforehand, was that “Native-born Protestant Americans” were being “assaulted by Roman Catholic police of New York City.” “Liberty and Democracy have been trampled upon,” it continued, “when native-born Protestant Americans dare to organise to protect one flag, the American flag; one school, the public school; and one language, the English language.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-latest-donald-trump-father-fred-arrested-ku-klux-klan-kkk-rally-riot-queens-new-york-a7891701.html

    The idea that the KKK could create a network of operatives in the interwar NYPD is one of the most risible things that I’ve ever heard….

    • Replies: @Tex
    , @Lurker
    , @Alden
  62. nebulafox says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    s>Also, speaking of castes, what’s a Hindi term that denotes something similar to chutzpah?

    If you want to annoy a southern Indian, just talk to him in Hindi at all. I’ve met Dravidian dudes who understand Hindi perfectly well, but will act as though they don’t know it if some guy from the north asks him a question in Hindi. The subcontinent is a complicated place: comparing Tamils to Gujuratis might as well be comparing Vietnamese to Malays.

    The reason English is the de facto lingua franca for educated Indians despite its colonial legacy is because, like in Singapore, it is neutral ground. All of the different ethnic groups with long-standing rivalries can agree upon it to communicate with each other.

  63. AceDeuce says:
    @Glaivester

    Most of the Klan’s activity in the U.S. was up North-much of it in the Midwest-and most of it was anti-Catholic.

    I remember reading that the Klan, sometime in the 70s, renounced anti-Catholic sentiment, saying that American Catholics have proved to be worthy Americans, in war and peace.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  64. Dumbo says:

    My head hurts… A black homosexual but who also has a (white?) wife and a son… Who fights a non-existing KKK in New York… This has NOTHING to do with the original Watchmen by Alan Moore. It’s again (leftists) taking up a popular work such as Star Wars and repurposing it for “woke” stories.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Percy Gryce
  65. Pericles says:
    @Altai

    “I was a Jewish white kid growing up in Teaneck, but at the same time, I had African and Filipino and Asian friends and to have that experience all through high school while getting an awesome education was wonderful.”

    “… So now I hate Whites.”

    Lindelof is probably a denatured Swedish name, btw.

    • Replies: @Altai
  66. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:
    @Pericles

    His surname is Swedish and comes from his gentile father.

  67. Svevlad says:

    Jovan?

    Since when do blacks appropriate serbian names?

  68. New York City’s Ku Klux Klan?

    Yeah, it’s made up of those three officers and a couple hundred FBI informants.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  69. Sean says:

    But Reeves has saved the book that the white KKK Cyclops members left on a desk, a fictional book called Mesmerism for the Masses

    Scott Adams. who predicted in early 2015 that Trump would become president, is a trained hypnotist.

    His 2015 posts on Trump often referenced hypnosis, and some of it was quite insightful.

    https://www.scottadamssays.com/2015/09/03/the-tells-for-cognitive-dissonance/

  70. Sean says:
    @Rahan

    https://www.scottadamssays.com/2015/09/06/how-to-spot-a-wizard/

    And I see Trump as a modern wizard who is baffling the media because he is playing three-dimensional chess on their two-dimensional chess board. Trump is talking directly to people’s subconscious. Everything else he says is just a carrier signal.

    Someone asked me about Kanye West and his hilarious statement that he would someday run for president.

    Ridiculous, right?

    Except that Kanye is a wizard.

    I spotted him several years ago, and blogged about his genius then. He’s the real deal. And he absolutely has the tools to become president if he makes it a priority.

    Consider the reaction you are having right now to the idea that Kanye West could be president. Your reaction (plus the fact that he is a legitimate genius) is what tells you he can do it. At least according to my filter.

    Oh, and he’s a musical superstar who admits he can’t sing well. How did that happen, you ask?

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. Our society does not have masked vigilantes meting out punishment to racists.

    Yeah, we should start a group for this. They could dress in all black and wear black masks. And we could give them a cool name like, say, “Antifa.” And the police could let them act with impunity and do things like disrupt presidential inaugurations. That would be AWWWESOME!!!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  72. SFG says:
    @Dumbo

    Moore was a lefty (ever read or seen ‘V for Vendetta’?), as was Lucas (‘Nute Gunray’? bad guys who dress like Nazis?) but yeah, this sounds silly.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  73. SFG says:

    This is the real reason I don’t watch TV anymore, though I have other excuses.

  74. Dumbo says:
    @SFG

    Yeah, I know. However Moore and Lucas were more old-school leftists, not so much into racial vengeance stuff (I think).

    Also, while there were some leftist elements in their stories, that’s not the reason that they were popular in the first place.

    However current “creators” (I’d call them more propagandists) like Lindeloff or JJ. Abrams are interested only in the progressive message, not in the story, so it becomes a very crude form of propaganda. I don’t understand how young people like to be lectured so much. I personally can’t stand most of American pop culture exactly because almost everything has to have some element about feminism, or racial grievance, or multiculturalism, or gay rights.

  75. @Kronos

    I remember that Obama mentioned that Omar was his favorite character from The Wire. Of course, a more fitting character for him would be state senator Clay Davis.

    • Replies: @Bugg
  76. They even turned Season Four of the Man in the High Castle into a long commercial for Black Lives Matter.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  77. Jack D says:
    @The Alarmist

    Don’t be silly. Some of them are ATF informers. The FBI informers inform on the ATF informers and vice versa.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  78. @Dumbo

    It’s a retconning of the original. The identity of Hooded Justice in the original was left unknown. In the HBO series they’ve shoehorned in the racial storyline. (The gay stuff is entirely incidental: The black cop is the top and just services the white masked hero out of nowhere. Almost a gay-for-pay situation. The cop’s wife and child are black.) Unfortunately Jussie Smollett ruined it for the producers as, I imagine, everyone watching the post-lynching superhero-origin scene laughed at the awkward coincidence.

  79. Dumbo says:
    @Altai

    It has a 97% average critic score, with a 44% audience score.

    When the scores are so different, something’s wrong.

    “Joker” goes the opposite way, but with not so high a difference: 66% critics, 88% audience.

    P.S. The woke episode about Hooded Justice has a “100%” critic reviews.

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/watchmen/s01/e06

  80. @eah

    Thanks as always for your reporting eah.

  81. @Anonymous

    All true, but you’re not supposed to notice.

  82. Realist says:

    New York City’s Ku Klux Klan?

    Absolutely, the mayor is the Grand Kleagle-proof… his wife is always in black face.

  83. @Altai

    The mass media and their owners are doing everything within their considerable power to bring this nation toward a race war.

    They are obviously confident that white people will lose this war. Considering how many white people are on their side, they are probably right about that.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
  84. mmack says:
    @Kronos

    “Didn’t they associate alcohol with Catholicism? I always wondered if there was a “secret” history of Prohibitionists in alliance with the Klan.”

    Get a copy of Daniel Okrent’s book Last Call, https://www.amazon.com/Last-Call-Rise-Fall-Prohibition/dp/074327704X/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=78065379610220&hvbmt=be&hvdev=t&hvqmt=e&keywords=last+call+daniel+okrent&qid=1574774017&sr=8-1

    The book talks about the push for Prohibition, the passing of the 18th Amendment, the enforcement and evasion of the law, and the final repeal by the 21st Amendment.

    Per Okrent, Prohibition is an early example of Steve’s idea of the “Coalition of the Fringes”. Feminists, Evangelicals, Nativists, Industrialists, and even the Klan joined under the umbrella of the Anti Saloon League and the Christian Temperance Union to ban alcohol. The Klan was
    – Against Immigrants and their beer, wine, and whiskey swilling ways
    – Against African Americans drinking cheap rotgut liquor and committing crimes (including raping Our White Women)
    – Against Jewish distillers who sold said rotgut to African Americans

    Unfortunately for the Coalition of the Fringes, once Prohibition passed, everyone ignored it, and organized crime grew to fill the void left by legitimate brewers, vintners, and distillers, the Coalition fractured.

    It’s a good book and pretty eye opening on the behind the scenes efforts to enact Prohibition.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  85. @Jack D

    Right,should have realized,Vineland was German Jews mostly.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  86. Tiny Duck says:

    Sucks for you guys that it is extremly popular and is watched by millinons

    All the white people I know love the show

    I guess they are anti-white too

    • Replies: @anon
    , @TWS
  87. WJ says:
    @syonredux

    Re-writing history, they (in Tulsa) now call it the Tulsa Race Massacre. That appears to be the universal term for it now and use of the riot description would probably get one tossed out of polite society. I suppose that’s better than the “Tulsa White Genocide Kills 5 million African Americans Incident” though.

    It has made the local news un-watchable at times and I have vowed to be out of the area by 2021 when the guilt fest will be at it’s peak.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  88. Reeves eventually joins a group of costumed vigilantes and works with them, hoping the entire time they will assist him in his fight against the Klan. But they refuse. His lover, a hero called Captain Metropolis (Jake McDorman), believes he is delusional — that there’s no threat to the city’s blacks other than themselves. Reeves takes things into his own hands. He finds the Klan hide-out. He kills everyone, including his fellow cops. He burns their building down and returns home. His wife, horrified by his violence, leaves with their son. And he decides to quit. Hooded Justice disappears.

    While we’re re-writing history, maybe Reeves’ wife left because she was afraid of catching AIDS from her husband, who hangs out with costumed vigilantes and has a lover named Captain Metropolis.

  89. @AceDeuce

    There was a Klan in New York back then, but it was more of a rural thing. Robert Caro talks about them burning crosses in Suffolk County when (Catholic) Al Smith ran for president.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Jack D
  90. bomag says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    A society that brims with the unresolved pain and anguish of racial trauma can’t help producing a reaction.

    I suspect that the Jamelle Bouies of the world work pretty hard pushing their stories of 1930’s Klan mind control because they notice that racial trauma of recent vintage goes the other way and we certainly can’t have any acknowledgement of that.

  91. Lurker says:

    As with the original comic series, Damon Lindelof’s HBO show is critical of a society shaped by profound injustice.

    This is completely untrue of course. This idea played little or no part in the original comic series. Perhaps the wokesters never actually read it?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @bomag
  92. Philoctetes says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    This doesn’t answer the question of where the crap will end, but it does give fair warning that university libraries are not places to avoid it.

    • Replies: @Philoctetes
  93. bomag says:
    @Lugash

    check out Saira Rao’s background on Twitter

    Another reminder that mass immigration of her ilk is a colossally bad idea.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  94. @Jack D

    Good point: Silly me. Considering nearly every cabinet department, even the Dept of Ed, has their own SWAT teams, there might even be Dept of Ed informants in there too.

  95. Art Deco says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The 2d incarnation of the Klan had a five-digit membership in 1919, a seven digit membership in 1922, and was back down to a five-digit membership by 1935. It wasn’t of much consequence anywhere during the Depression and it formally dissolved in 1944. One curio seldom remarked on is that the number of lynchings in this country was in rapid decline during the 1920s, in spite of the popularity of the Klan.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  96. Dumbo says:

    Actually it brings up an interesting example of blatant ethnic networking in Hollywood. Despite their endless anti-Midas touch, the JJ Abrams gang keep getting bigger and bigger opportunities and paydays thanks to them employing each other.

    Why, the same happens in politics. No matter how someone is wrong about Vietnam, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Libya etc, the same people keep re-appearing in a new government position or think tank, pleading a different thing. It’s never about results, it’s all about networking, about being part of a club. And you ain’t in it.

  97. Tex says:
    @syonredux

    I think everyone is missing the point. It’s not about what 20th century Irish Catholics thought about the Klan, but how 21st century Jews feel about Irish Catholics.

  98. @Interested Bystander

    “Antifa.” And the police could let them act with impunity

    Certainly the case in New York. Two members of the Proud Boys (stupid name) got four-year prison sentences for a fight with four Antifa. This despite the fact that no one was sufficiently injured to require medical treatment and the Antifa refused to identify themselves to the police, much less press charges; Gavin McInnes says they told the police to “Fuck off.” Nevertheless, the city tried and convicted the Proud Boys. Here is how the New York Times explained it:

    The four victims have not cooperated with the authorities, who do not even know their names. They are identified in an indictment only as Shaved Head, Ponytail, Khaki and Spiky Belt.

    Phillip Walzak, the Police Department’s main spokesman, said that footage from police body cameras showed that victims refused to talk with officers who sought statements after arriving on 82nd Street as the attacks were taking place.

    As a result, prosecutors have been unable to pursue charges of assault, which requires evidence of injury. Instead, the defendants have been charged with riot and with attempted assault, which requires only evidence of intent to cause injury.

    “The primary evidence before the grand jury — and the only evidence of how the physical altercation began — was video evidence,” a prosecutor, Joshua Steinglass, wrote in a court filing.

    Daniel R. Alonso, a former federal prosecutor and former chief assistant district attorney in Manhattan, said that trying a criminal case without victim testimony may be somewhat unusual, but is hardly unheard-of.

    Perhaps not unheard of, but you can be assured that the Manhattan DA would not use such unusual methods to convict members of Antifa under any circumstances.

    • Agree: TWS, kikz
  99. @Lurker

    I doubt very much that writer Alan Moore would object to his creation being used for these purposes. He’s a committed leftist and no doubt is on board with the new Woke agenda.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Dumbo
    , @Lurker
  100. Jack D says:
    @kaganovitch

    I don’t think that’s true – plenty of Ostjuden chicken farmers in Vineland, too. It was more that Vineland was in the Philly orbit and the Lakewood area in the NY orbit. It had more to do with American geography than European geography.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  101. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    One curio seldom remarked on is that the number of lynchings in this country was in rapid decline during the 1920s, in spite of the popularity of the Klan.

    The 2nd Klan was about as likely to conduct a lynching as your local Moose Lodge. They were just cosplaying as the Klansmen from Birth of a Nation. Actually lynching someone would have soiled those expensive costumes.

  102. Jack D says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    There was a Klan in Queens but they saw themselves as OPPOSED to the NYPD, which was largely Irish Catholic. So the idea of a Klan cell inside the NYPD is ahistorical. These shows, even though they are set in the “past” aren’t really about any real historical past, they are about the Current Year fantasies of SJWs projected onto the screen of an imaginary past.

  103. syonredux says:
    @WJ

    Re-writing history, they (in Tulsa) now call it the Tulsa Race Massacre. That appears to be the universal term for it now and use of the riot description would probably get one tossed out of polite society. I suppose that’s better than the “Tulsa White Genocide Kills 5 million African Americans Incident” though.

    As I always like to point out, Blacks did most of the killing on the first day of the riot:

    The first “battle” was said to last a few seconds or so, but took a toll, as ten whites and two blacks lay dead or dying in the street.

    Day one death toll:

    Whites: 10

    Blacks: 2

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot#Riot

  104. @Harry Baldwin

    Woke crowds out Left.

    That’s why it’s so virulent among those who have the most to lose to a traditional Left.

  105. @R.G. Camara

    “It’s the Magical Negro Avenger.”

    To rich white progressives like Damon Lindelof negroes are indeed magical. This new variant of Alan Moore’s Watchmen reeks of desperation: goodwhites with badthoughts eager to maintain status in a business where the corporate culture has changed quickly and radically.

  106. bgates says:

    It takes a special kind of writer to set out to criticize the Klan, and end up praising masked vigilantes who set things on fire and kill people as the victims of injustice who have no other recourse.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
  107. @Jack D

    The target audience is those (mostly white) with more privilege than sense and desperate for rationalizations for retaining that privilege. Pretending that non-priveleged whites are and have always been subhuman demons does the trick.

    Rootless Cosmopolitan turned out unexpectedly to be a thing. So you’ve got all these putatively best and brightest cut off from that which made them both confronted with the horrifying reality that those who stayed rooted to something less universal turned out to be both better and brighter.

    The healthy reconnect. The unhealthy go Woke.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  108. @syonredux

    The writing staff of Watchmen consulted Tee-Hee Coates for historical background. Tee-Hee received a seven-figure sum for his expertise. Systematic racism is quite lucrative.

  109. Dumbo says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I remember that once Alan Moore was very much against film adaptations of his works and that’s why it took a long time for the first Watchmen movie to come about. I gue$$ he must have changed hi$ mind at $ome point.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  110. Lurker says:
    @syonredux

    The idea that the KKK could create a network of operatives in the interwar NYPD is one of the most risible things that I’ve ever heard

    I presume the reverse is much more likely.

    • Agree: syonredux
  111. @Dumbo

    “However Moore and Lucas were more old-school leftists, not so much into racial vengeance stuff (I think).”

    Moore’s politics are leftist-anarchist coated with Gnostic mysticism. Based on his comments, Lucas seems to be of the 1960s New Left. The anti-white bile has alienated many old-school leftists. Politicians of the old-school, like Bernie Sanders, have had to quickly adapt to remain relevant.

  112. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    I’m not so sure that reconnecting is always healthy. In the other thread we have Kimmy the Banana who reconnected with her roots and became a Professional Asian. I’m not sure being a Professional White Person is really better than being a Professional Asian. I understand why you might want to do this to defend yourself against the Professional Asians and the Professional Blacks, etc. but it’s a sort of arms race. Whitedey-white-white is not really better than blacketly-black-black.

    The whole point of being an American used to be that you mostly DISCONNECTED from your roots and assumed a unified American identity that was greater and better – a whole bunch of Italians and Irish and Jews and Mexicans and whatever who never accomplished anything back home could get together and kick Hitler’s ass. The sum was greater than the parts. Yeah, you knew that your tail gunner was Italian and the pilot was an Iowa farm boy, etc. but mainly you were all Americans. It’s like what RBG said about Supreme Court nominations becoming a partisan political circus – I liked it better the old way.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @bomag
  113. kihowi says:
    @Jack D

    There was one, maybe this one, where the glorious Fuhrer looked like Steve Allen (and every other intellectual jew ever). Possibly even including little round glasses. Nazis and Klansmen are morons and even if they happen to be on your sides when the chips are down and the balloon goes up, as an intelligent person you really don’t want to be in contact with them.

  114. @Jack D

    The Trump family’s side of the story, from what I’ve heard, is that Fred was one of several local businesspeople who went to protest the Klan, seeing that group as bad for the local economy and realty market.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  115. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    What happened to your periods?

  116. @Jack D

    I don’t think that’s true – plenty of Ostjuden chicken farmers in Vineland, too.

    Really? All the guys I knew who were from Vineland in yeshiva were Yekkes. I thought it was all German.. Live and learn.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  117. bomag says:
    @Lurker

    …critical of a society shaped by profound injustice

    Sounds like a general excuse offered by SJWs throughout history:

    interrogator: “Mr. Pol Pot, why did you do what you did?”

    answer: “Our society was shaped by profound injustice; things had to change.”

    interrogator: “Oh, okay; you may go.”

  118. @Jack D

    It’s mostly imagined, I’d agree. Like Fritz Kuhn and Co. did have that rally at MSG in 1939, but the American Nazi party wasn’t ever much of a thing, either.

    Now any time these people appear in public the are outnumbered 100 to 1 by protestors. I’m not counting the Proud Boys, because they aren’t nazis or KKK sympathizers, whatever the media say about them.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  119. I know newspapers are supposed to cover “culture” — but it’s become way too easy to just watch a TV show or movie, think of that as “research,” and then spill your sociological fantasies all over the op-ed page.

  120. donut says:
    @Kronos

    The whole quote : , Anthony “was highly indignant and declared that she would sooner cut off her right hand than ask the ballot for the black man and not for woman.” She wasn’t against the Negro getting the vote at all , she wanted both Negros and women to get the vote .

    • Replies: @Kronos
  121. J.Ross says:

    Serves them right, they trusted YouTube
    Remember how de-monitization wasn’t censorship? Remember right-wing and even center-right channels getting demonitized despite having huge followings (and having made plenty of money in the past)? Now YouTube announces that all demonitized channels will be deleted by December Tenth.

    https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=fYG70vN-djc

  122. Kronos says:
    @mmack

    Sweet! I’ll take a look.

  123. Jack D says:
    @kaganovitch

    I think that was just your bad luck. I knew one Yekke chicken farmer family growing up but they were vastly outnumbered by the Polish Jews. I think most (or at least many) Yekkes came to America with more education and portable skills than the average Ostjude and so were less likely to end up in chicken farming. You had Yekke doctors, Yekke lawyers, etc. where my father’s entire education consisted of a few years of cheder. There weren’t that many Yekke’s to begin with compared to the # of Ostjuden.

  124. @MattinLA

    his suck-up instinct indicates that extreme anti-white content will bring plaudits from the high and mighty, so he is blindly (and ham-handedly) delivering it.

    Well he’s not wrong. I think we’re going to see a lot of white-devil shows like this in the future. After all, who could publicly criticize it?

  125. TWS says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Dude you are white. You show up after deplorable duck gets deplatformed with exactly the same format. How tough is it to figure out?

  126. “… Again, What kind of society produces masked vigilantes? Who takes on the mask?”

    Antifa

  127. Jack D says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I don’t know what you consider to be “much of a thing” is but 20,000 people came to the MSG Bund rally. That’s a “thing” to me. I think nowadays you’d be hard pressed to fill a phone booth (if they still had those) with American Nazis let alone MSG.

    Here is an article on the Nazis of Long Island:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20100621060808/http://www.stonybrook.edu/lihj/IssueFiles/V21_2/Articles/Shaffer/shaffer.html

    Real Nazism (not today’s LARPers) was a German thing and most if not all pre-WWII American Nazis were German. Now German immigrants are rare in the US.

  128. @Jack D

    Didn’t the FDR administration sue Kosher butchers in NY and NJ for selling chicken without following NRA administration rules?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @J.Ross
  129. Jack D says:
    @Known Fact

    I wouldn’t go by that story. Trump also used to tell everyone in NY that he was Swedish. Is pretending to be Swedish as bad as pretending to be an Indian? I guess you don’t get AA preference for being Swedish but it might help you sell apartments to Jews.

  130. @Kronos

    Yep, and I remember Barry Obama being quoted as saying that Omar was his favorite character on The Wire. Obama was white at his core, y’know, but maybe he liked Omar because Omar was gay like Barry.

  131. @Jack D

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    My roots aren’t white or brown or polka-dotted. My roots are my family, my community, my faith, my country and her traditions.

    Probably have a lot in common with your own, except probably lighter on the midrash.

    My roots are midwestern, American, Christian – Scottish Common Sense style. Massively multi-generational (no blank slate/temporal chauvinism), concrete, particular, real.

  132. njguy73 says:
    @Skyler_the_Weird

    Wait, The Man in the High Castle got hijacked by BLM?

    That show was supposed to be about my people suffering.

    OK, now I’m offended as a Jew.

  133. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >Real Nazism (not today’s LARPers) was a German thing and most if not all pre-WWII American Nazis were German.

    This was by design. Hitler was always insistent that Nazism was something unique to Germany and took a dim view of non-German imitators. Like the architect in the wrong field he really was, he believe that proper ultra-nationalists in other countries should come up with their own stuff to fit their own cultures rather than aping him. Nazism’s total inability to transcend the harshly ultra-nationalistic profile stamped on it from birth-combined with the founder’s nature, which was basically anti-political in the fullest pre-1945 German sense of the word, but taken to a Hitlerian extreme, fully resurfacing by this point-deeply impacted the course of world history in 1940.

    (He also believed that Heinrich Himmler could never succeed him because he was, I kid you not, “a totally unartistic person”. I think it is highly illuminating that there were so many dabblers from the humanities-amateur poets, failed novelists, wannabe musicians-in the upper echelons of the Nazi leadership.)

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Dumbo
    , @Desiderius
  134. syonredux says:
    @nebulafox

    This was by design. Hitler was always insistent that Nazism was something unique to Germany and took a dim view of non-German imitators. Like the architect in the wrong field he really was, he believe that proper ultra-nationalists in other countries should come up with their own stuff to fit their own cultures rather than aping him.

    For example, Hitler once noted to Unity Mitford that Oswald Mosley’s approach was entirely wrong, that aping German Nazis and Italian Fascists would simply alienate people in the UK. If he wanted to succeed, he needed to nativize the movement. When asked what he would do if he were in Mosley’s place, Hitler said that he would look to Cromwell and start calling his men the “Ironsides.”

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  135. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Adams is putting a positive spin on a phenomenon that is obviously about our social decline into Idiocracy.

    Trump is talented, but anyone could have seen that his political rise reflected our increasingly celebrity driven Big Man style politics as we get dumber as a society, and that he was a prelude to a decline that would culminate in even more moronic and megalomaniacal black celebrities like Kanye West, just like in Idiocracy.

    I think Kanye and the Kardashians may indeed have presidential ambitions. I don’t think it’s an accident that the Kardashians have been engaging in activism to get blacks out of jail over the past few years. They seem to have identified black incarceration as an issue to build up a black political base and have engaged in high publicity generating activism regarding the issue. Kanye’s political ambitions have clearly been inspired by seeing the success of Trump, a fellow megalomaniacal celebrity.

    Contra Adams, none of this is “baffling” to the media. They simply can’t admit to themselves that this wider phenomenon of our societal decline is to a significant degree their responsibility.

    • Agree: Alden
  136. @syonredux

    As usual with Hitler he artistically intuited something profound on an abstract level but the particulars were so twisted by his psychopathy that what he ended up with was worse than nothing.

    The Glorious Revolution was so Glorious in large part because it left Cromwell behind. Arthur perhaps. Cromwell never.

  137. Dumbo says:
    @nebulafox

    I’ve read, I don’t remember where, that Hitler’s motive were primarily aesthetic. Perhaps his failure in becoming a celebrated painter made him look for other ways of making an “artistic” impression; certainly his plans to remodel Berlin and German society were in that line. He was likely a narcissist too.

    he believe that proper ultra-nationalists in other countries should come up with their own stuff to fit their own cultures rather than aping him.

    But he copied fascist ideas and looks from the Italians (or at least it seems Mussolini thought so).

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @J.Ross
  138. @nebulafox

    Not just the Nazis. Stalin always considered himself a poet.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  139. nebulafox says:
    @Dumbo

    Yes, I think they were. This aligns with some of my own pet theories about Hitler’s mental chemistry and why, unlike many other dictators, he really meant everything that he promised, literally.

    You probably got that from Joachim Fest. His book is a bit outdated, but it still really nails Hitler as a person in a way that other biographers just don’t: though I hear Ullrich’s biography takes a more pedestrian view of the Fuhrer. Haven’t read it in full yet, be interested in checking it out.

    One of Fest’s big points was that politics in Germany before the war was looked at with a large degree of cultural contempt, and that partially explains both Hitler’s rise to power and his popularity once in power. People felt he was liberating them from politics, even as the totalitarian state truly brought Germany into the 20th Century by destroying the old authoritarian structures and implicitly demanding mass political participation.

    You’ve got to take Albert Speer with a grain of salt on just about everything, but I think he nailed it on the head when he said that he got the impression Hitler would have much rather have been an architect than a politician. He had the artistic personality needed, both the strengths and the weaknesses. But his talents were always in politics. He was never more than middling as an artist and lacked the mathematical background to become an architect. So, the artistic personality was discharged with Europe as his canvas: and in keeping with his innately destructive nature…

    >But he copied fascist ideas and looks from the Italians (or at least it seems Mussolini thought so).

    What, you don’t think Adolf Hitler wouldn’t ever be a hypocrite now, would you?

    Another point that Fest makes is that Germany was far from unique in having fascist politics: the Nazi regime was among the last of the interbellum far-right regimes to come to power in Europe. It didn’t have anything to do with a supposedly schizophrenically submissive and militaristic German character. What was German about it was that it was the most radical, absolute manifestation of fascism. Had Mussolini tried something similar in Italy, he’d have never gotten anywhere with his people and his culture.

  140. @Father O'Hara

    jamelle has a white girlfriend (because of course he does).

  141. nebulafox says:
    @Desiderius

    So did Saddam: and whereas Stalin was just a bank-robber, he was a no-kidding assassin when he wrote poetry as a young man!

    Stalin, for his part, would be a voracious reader all his life, as would Mussolini, another self-taught intellectual. Hitler’s library, too, was also vast: you can still see his written comments in the margins some of the books he owned.

    It’s surely not an accident that they liked serious literature. If you want to be a dictator, you have to be good at persuading and manipulating people. Takes a bit of a right-brain flair.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  142. @Jack D

    I think most (or at least many) Yekkes came to America with more education and portable skills than the average Ostjude and so were less likely to end up in chicken farming.

    I’m sure that’s true, but the guys I knew came from Bavarian countryside (iirc Wurtzburg region) and at least one of them had been in the poultry business in Germany too. I think Bavarian Jews were less urbanized than other German Jews and a smaller percentage of them were in the professions. They were not uncommonly bauern and cattle dealers and the like.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  143. syonredux says:
    @Dumbo

    I remember that once Alan Moore was very much against film adaptations of his works and that’s why it took a long time for the first Watchmen movie to come about. I gue$$ he must have changed hi$ mind at $ome point.

    Dunno…..

    Moore has subsequently stated that he wishes his name to be removed from all comic work that he does not own, including Watchmen and V for Vendetta, much as unhappy film directors often choose to have their names removed and be credited as “Alan Smithee”. He also announced that he would not allow his name to be used in any future film adaptations of works he does not own, nor would he accept any money from such adaptations.[113] This request was respected by the producers of the subsequent adaptations of his work Constantine (2005) (based on a character created by Moore) and Watchmen (2009).

    In a 2012 interview with LeftLion magazine, Alan Moore was asked to put a figure on how much money he had turned down by refusing to be associated with these film adaptations. He estimated it to be ‘at least a few million dollars’ and said: “You can’t buy that kind of empowerment. To just know that as far as you are aware, you have not got a price; that there is not an amount of money large enough to make you compromise even a tiny bit of principle that, as it turned out, would make no practical difference anyway. I’d advise everyone to do it, otherwise you’re going to end up mastered by money and that’s not a thing you want ruling your life.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Moore#Film_adaptations

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  144. @Skyler_the_Weird

    Didn’t the FDR administration sue Kosher butchers in NY and NJ for selling chicken without following NRA administration rules?

    Yup, that was the famous Schechter brothers case. The Schechter’s won unanimously in the Supreme Court. Amity Shlaes has chapter and verse in her book about the depression. I’m not sure what this has to do with what Jack is talking about though, other than that chickens are involved.

  145. notsaying says:
    @syonredux

    Good for Jimmy Walker and the Supreme Court. I have never heard of this history before. Thanks for sharing it here. He did us all a big favor in helping to get rid of the Klan outside the South.

    But as for this HBO show, I cannot understand why anybody would make up such a tale. It is untrue in so many ways. It doesn’t help anybody and it could convince younger people who don’t know their history that some of this stuff really happened.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  146. bomag says:
    @Jack D

    It’s like what RBG said about Supreme Court nominations becoming a partisan political circus – I liked it better the old way.

    Interesting. I always considered her a significant force in politicizing the court: “with one voice” dissents, etc. Hard to imagine that she was suggested by Orrin Hatch, and was considered a moderate.

    I understand why you might want to do this to defend yourself against the Professional Asians and the Professional Blacks, etc. but it’s a sort of arms race.

    Seems the arms race started long ago, and one doesn’t have much alternative than to play the game. Otherwise, we’re just grovelling and ceding territory until we’re extinct.

  147. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile in the gangtastic enrichment center and all-around mental institution that is the Decay UK:

    BBC pushes ‘institutionally racist’ claim against cinema chain that pulls its gang film rather than address the real issue

    After violence at a showing of ‘Blue Story,’ that saw police with tasers frightening young cinema-goers, the BBC, which backed the gang film financially, has been running with wild claims of racism against the Vue cinema chain.

    Following a fight at the Star City screening of ‘Blue Story,’ police arrested five teenagers and took away two machetes and a knife which they found at the scene. Meanwhile, young children at the Vue complex, which was also screening ‘Frozen 2,’ were left in tears after dozens of police arriving at the melee were met with violence and resorted to using their tasers to regain control and clear the cinema, before it was shut for the evening.

    Vue Cinemas then pulled the film about a South London postcode war from its 91 nationwide cinemas and now Showcase has followed suit

    … instead of looking at the real issues, the liberal media – led by the BBC – has led with an attack on the cinemas, seen as faceless, greedy corporations, rather than address the idea that there might be a serious gang problem in the nation’s second biggest city. Feeling it was on to something, the BBC went into overdrive, using the claim online from a black events organizer, Sheila Knowles, 24, to justify their headlines. Ms Knowles claimed, “People are calling the ban discriminatory and institutionally racist.”

  148. Global Citizen [AKA "Globalist Citizex"] says:

    An opinion based on comments here.

    The Wokeman employs a clever inversion projection.

    Wokeman is an embedded message in the overall media that uses a fiction about embedded messages in a fictional media. Wokeman’s message is pure hate masquerading as anti hate. Really old paintings displayed Satan as being this clever. Now I understand.

  149. J.Ross says:
    @Skyler_the_Weird

    Polish Jews can have German names and vice versa. I don’t know how to definitely nail it down beyond using actual family history, but there are probably some classes of names with tells (un-German sounds? Certain occupation names?).

  150. J.Ross says:
    @Dumbo

    Consider (sometimes attractive) Nazi official doctrine of art, restoring the ancient Greek idea that it should be a didactic, idealizing tool in the service of the people and the state, and not a license for porn and demoralization propaganda. A Hitlerite would never see art as something outside of politics or the natural prerogatives of the government.

  151. @Jack D

    What I mean is it was never a major social movement. They never assassinated a president or set off a bomb on Wall Street, never had much of a political constituency. They didn’t even really spy for the German nazis in any devastating way.

    That rally was the high point of the American nazis. It’s remembered for being disrupted if it is at all, and George Lincoln Rockwell to me is a figure of fun. From the Blues Brothers to Seinfeld, they are ridiculed and scorned in popular culture, to the point that there’s no zing in it anymore. Meh, they were asking for it.

    I don’t know why the Aryan Union leader in ‘The Limo’ episode is named Donald O’Brien, though. The Irish name might be a joke, as in, they hates Catholics, too. It can’t be a Trump joke, if it was David would’ve mentioned it by now.

    Is it because non-whites seem to assume most whites are Irish, and America’s German immigrants are forgotten? There were more than there were Irish, IIRC

  152. Did the KKK ever allow Catholics? I’m thinking not. Is it a rational thought process that Irish Americans are almost entirely Catholic, especially in the 1930’s? Therefor the large Irish American percentage in the 1930’s NYPD, were likely Catholic and not allowed in the KKK.

  153. anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    But as for this HBO show, I cannot understand why anybody would make up such a tale.

    Really?

    It is untrue in so many ways.

    Yes. That is a feature, though, not a bug.

    It doesn’t help anybody

    Not anybody? C’mon!

    and it could convince younger people who don’t know their history that some of this stuff really happened.

    You just responded to your own first statement. This is the “why”, because you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs. Blatant racial hatred propaganda is helpful when it is time to break some eggs. Can’t have genocide without dehumanization.

  154. This Reeves story takes place in the late 1930s? But Secret Life of Walter Mitty came out in 1947.

  155. J.Ross says:

    “If Canada’s infamous history of oppressing black people produces an avenger, then he can dump buckets of filth over the heads of Canadians who are almost certainly liberals, and it is justified.”
    You know who doesn’t get doused in excrement? Concealing carriers.

  156. J.Ross says:
    @notsaying

    I cannot understand why anybody would make up such a tale.

    The official universal leftist explanation of Trump and immigration policy dissent is that we are making up vicious lies to exploit the emotions generated from those stories. So, as with CrowdStrike or Epstein or Uranium One or Burisma, they’re accusing us of doing what they are doing. This yields whatever direct benefit is available plus it serves to confuse people and act as a short-term defense.

  157. @Dtbb

    The violence has already been committed, even if Bouie were to murder his spouse’s physical body, a more egregious execution has already been carried out, the damage through abuse of her womb. He infact terminated an entire White generation stemming back as far as her ancestors existed. He essentially, wiped them from time.

  158. @Jean Ralphio Jr.

    Regressors to the mean with cash to burn and butthurt to assuage.

  159. @HammerJack

    Get out into Deplorable Country. If you visit Central Michigan at the start of deer hunting season, you’ll see so many YT men walking around wearing camo and carrying rifles that you’ll think the National Guard is on maneuvers.

  160. syonredux says:

    Off-topic but quite interesting:

    Here is racial/ethnic assortative mating for every county in the US. Remarkably more diverse (and liberal) counties have more assortative mating. Assortative mating index of 1 equals 100% of mate pairs assortative. Assortment is primarily a function of the size of minority pops

    As a long time resident of New York, the assortative mating there is crazy. It’s probably the most diverse piece of land on the planet yet it is so assortative. It’s actually what got me interested in the phenomenon

  161. @Dumbo

    Moore recently complained that comics/superheroes were too white and smack of ‘master race’ fantasies. Not sure if he’s aware most of the guys responsible are Jews or if he just doesn’t care.

    He’s also announced he’ll be voting for the Labour party at the upcoming election because we are at a dire crossroad where the evil ‘right’ must be defeated or else the end is upon us.

    So yes Moore is ‘like that’. And It should have been obvious to you, I mean, isn’t V for Vendetta just more of the same anti-nationalist crap… I don’t know why you guys are absolving ‘old school leftists’ (by which I mean post war guys of the 50s and 60s) about these kinds of thing either, they of them laid the fertiliser the ‘woke’ grew in. Hardcore ‘Old school leftists’ have recaptured the Labour party and are even planning a ‘review’ of the British Empire’s crimes, maybe even reparations. So much for how he leftoids of Moore’s mileu (& even getting him to break his anarchist’s vow not to vote) aren’t into ‘racial vengeance’… (though masochism is a more accurate term than vengeance given their makeup).

  162. @Philoctetes

    Toronto is currently besieged by a crazed Negro dumping buckets of liquid fecal matter on college students’ heads.

    • Replies: @Global Citizen
  163. @Philoctetes

    Who needs a hooded gay black vigilante? Toronto is currently besieged by a crazed yellow-vested Negro dumping buckets of liquid feces over college students’ heads.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Anonymous
  164. @Jack D

    New York City or New York State?

    The latter’s north country (which is very rural and has pockets of blight) had a lot of Klan activity in the 20s.

    https://newyorkhistoryblog.org/2014/06/1920s-kkk-recruiting-efforts-in-northern-new-york/

    One of the prime targets was Catholics. There would have been close to zero Irish Catholic Klansmen Kops in NYC in the 20s.

    I find that accounts of NYC Klan activity to be sketchy and anecdotal.

    In any case, none of it stopped Al Smith from being nominated and the idea that an Irish Catholic would be a member is ludicrous. Might as well portray a vegan who eats cheeseburgers.

  165. Global Citizen [AKA "Globalist Citizex"] says:
    @Another Canadian

    Isn’t he an Adjunct Professor of the humanities delivering Unbiased Wokeness AI via Deep
    Immersion?

  166. Bugg says:

    Reality of hate crime, within site of the New York Times’ offices. To the credit of the NY Post, they readily describe the breakdown of the victims and the criminals, a rarity these days

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/hoods-attacked-actress-jennifer-agostini-friends-leaving-midtown-bar-suit/

  167. Bugg says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Michelle Obama IS Avon Barksdale’s sister-entitled, filled with resentment and self-esteem, zero accomplishment spare her family’s connections, not really caring how the sausage gets made, as long as she gets hers.

  168. Kronos says:
    @donut

    That’s good to know. Thank you.

  169. Alden says:
    @Kronos

    FOC feminazis of color studies really detest the suffragettes. The suffragettes first cause was abolition of slavery , the civil war and the Freedmens Bureau.

    And then it turned out that black men were eligible to vote. Harriet Beecher Stowe, Grimke sisters and other women abolitionists were outraged.

    A retarded black buck could vote but these educated intelligent ladies from wealthy and powerful families couldn’t vote. They wrote a lot of very politically incorrect things about the low intelligence and criminal feckless behavior of blacks, especially black men who were now eligible to vote.

    The feminazis of color studies courses emphasize the reaction of the abolitionist ladies to the black men’s voting.

    Heterosexual feminazis, feminazis of various colors lesbian feminazis bi sexual feminazis feminazis who are really men The feminazi community is very fractured. There’s ferocious competition in the Oppression Olympics.

  170. Alden says:
    @syonredux

    There’s a PBS show about Bass Reeves being the real Lone Ranger.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  171. Alden says:
    @Altai

    And the nuns whose catholic private schools the KKK tried to close down.

    The 1920s KKK were ardent prohibitionists. Indiana went after them when the KKK set up roadblocks and searched cars for alcohol.

  172. @kaganovitch

    from Bavarian countryside (iirc Wurtzburg region)

    Franconian!!

    The tour guide at the Residenz in Würzburg told us, “Wir sind noch Franken im Herzen.”

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  173. The latter’s north country (which is very rural and has pockets of blight) had a lot of Klan activity in the 20s.

    Mountains towering over villages make an imposing site for burning a large cross. Why bother going door-to-door when you can spook the whole town at once? There were stories of mountaintop crosses looking over our city.

    It was a little tougher in the flatter parts of western Wisconsin, where the Klan tried to recruit Protestant Slovaks to keep out those alien Germans, French, and Irish. The river towns in the Driftless had good cliffs, but were already lost.

    Might as well portray a vegan who eats cheeseburgers.

    Kosher ones, at that.

  174. @nebulafox

    Stalin was likely the mastermind of the 1905 Baku terrorist bombing that made front pages around the world.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/826564.Young_Stalin

  175. @Another Canadian

    Talk about worthwhile Canadian initiatives!

  176. @eah

    The ADL’s list of the 15 most dangerous anti-semites on social media includes at least 2 Jews (non-religious?). That’s about 13% compared with their 2.1% of the US population over all age groups and 1.8% over the 15-20 year age group. Why are Jews so much more anti-semitic than other people? I notice that Jewish complaints of US hate crimes rarely refer to any economic or personal harm. Somebody thought something; somebody said something; somebody would have said something if he’d been allowed to; somebody defended himself from a physical attack. It’s quite trivial compared to the real Palestinian suffering inflicted by really racist Jews. The ADL look like Smolletting drama queens. [email protected]

  177. Dumbo says:
    @syonredux

    I take that back. Actually it seems that due to having been taken advantage of, Moore has no control whatsoever over “Watchmen” (or “V for Vendetta”), and still refuses to receive any money or have his name attached to any adaptation.

    https://qz.com/quartzy/1732050/why-alan-moore-wants-nothing-to-do-with-hbos-watchmen/

    Anyway. Moore at least was talented and contrary to Lindelof and otters, seems to have some principles. I don’t understand the success of a hack such as Lindelof. Why do people watch this “woke” crap? Maybe white ethnomasochism is real after all.

  178. syonredux says:
    @Alden

    BASS REEVES AND
    THE LONE RANGER:
    Debunking the Myth

    One such
    example is a misconception about the exploits of an African-American U.S. Deputy Marshal
    named Bass Reeves, triggered by recent folklore influenced by racial bias brought about by false
    beliefs and a genuine lack of concern for factual verification. Besides documenting the true
    accomplishments of Reeves, a book published a decade ago caused unnecessary confusion by
    falsely suggesting he was the inspiration for the fictional character of The Lone Ranger. Historians
    are expected to avoid the pitfall of mistaking folklore for facts, in large measure through the
    avoidance of speculations. However, the author of the Bass Reeves biography ultimately – and
    unintentionally – misled tens of thousands of readers into believing a falsehood.

    The elements
    that made up the characteristics of The Lone Ranger were borne from pulp magazine fare. A letter
    from Jewell to Striker, dated January 21, verified Trendle’s request for a happy-go-lucky, laughat-danger masked vigilante similar to The Mark of Zorro. Jewell provided suggestions that worked
    with the physical demands of daily radio drama, Striker provided the rough sketches. The Lone
    Ranger working in disguise originated from this letter as a result of Jewell’s reference to The Mark
    of Zorro.

    The greatest influence on the formation of The Lone Ranger was Tom Mix, evident in a
    letter dated January 21, 1933, in which Jewell told Striker, “We are going to publicize the fact that
    the Ranger is a Tom Mix type.” Tom Mix was a Hollywood movie star who defined the genre of
    Westerns during the early days of cinema. Mix was an icon young children admired and Jewell
    was attempting to mirror that same success story.

    https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/41b57b_65fd2f2e944846ddbfa937d8449a43cf.pdf

    • Replies: @Alden
  179. @mmack

    Nativists and industrialists were the “fringes”? Who was the core, then?

    Was the Klan of the ’20s also suffragist?

    • Replies: @mmack
  180. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Another Canadian

    The poop-dumper has been captured.Samuel Opoku, 23, is now in police custody.

    • Replies: @anon
  181. mmack says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Fringes in the sense of individually, none of the movements that united within the “Dry” movement could have passed Prohibition on their own.

    – Women crusading against drunken husbands wasting the family’s money at the saloon would have been dismissed as a bunch of scolding prudes
    – Evangelicals (Protestant and Baptist) crusading about drink being the gateway to sin and debauchery (while privately worrying about all these Catholics flooding in from Europe) would have been dismissed as Bible Thumping prudes
    – Industrialists who wanted sober workers were fighting an image of Gilded Age Robber Barons
    – Socialists who wanted sober workers to overthrow the owners and grab the means of production would have been dismissed as anarchists and cranks
    – As folks have noted in this thread, the Klan on its own couldn’t have marshaled the votes needed to ban alcohol.
    – The Progressives were gaining power, but were smart enough to realize bringing ALL these groups under the Dry tent gave them a solid voting block with the money and influence to Get Things Done. And they did, putting candidates in races who were sympathetic to the Dry view, and got them elected. And then they reminded them who gave them money, who voted for them, and got their legislation.

    Frankly they didn’t care WHO joined their coalition, they cared their block was large enough to push their cause through.

  182. @Colin Wright

    No, it isn’t. Hispanics, Indians, and Chinese will steamroller them into oblivion. Alongside whites.

    Suggesting that native-born blacks and whites ought to find common cause against the invaders.

    But no, that will never happen. Thanks to Rocket Scientists like you.

    • Replies: @Disordered Deek
  183. ‘Suggesting that native-born blacks and whites ought to find common cause against the invaders.

    ‘But no, that will never happen. Thanks to Rocket Scientists like you.’

    I’m not so dumb as to seriously contemplate allying myself with blacks.

    As far as I’m concerned, it’s more likely us whites will ally with ‘the invaders’ against you-all.

    Already, in Oakland, Los Angeles, presumably elsewhere neighborhoods that were definitely dangerous to even visit are now perfectly habitable, thanks to the Mexican influx. My daughter went to high school at Saint Elizabeth’s in East Oakland. If that had still been a black neighborhood, that would have been out of the question. I dunno where exactly all the blacks went — but they’re gone.

    Every cloud has a silver lining.

  184. Mr. Grey says:
    @Polynikes

    I refused to watch this show because I knew there was something like this in it, too many “good” people enjoyed this show about drug gangs in Baltimore.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  185. Up here in Michigan an all black Detroit city high school football team was in a play off game with a white suburb school. They weren’t winning so they started doing blind and chop blocks and cheering all the penalties they racked up. Refs called the game and called the cops. The team then attacked the white band, and then tore down the locker room.

    The Detroit schools said it was totally kosher, because after they attacked the band a person in the crowd used the N word. Local media backed the blacks 100%, ignoring the fact 2/3 of their attacks were pre the made up event, and even so committing serious crimes isn’t excused by an alleged insult.

    The media buried themselves so far in the tank the white cops got pissed and are actually investigating. They also forgot even though the county prosecutor is Dem, in Michigan city and township attorneys can bring misdemeanor cases

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  186. J.Ross says:
    @Lawyer Guy

    There was just a story about blacks fired from an Elon Musk project, insisting that they had regularly been addressed with the n-word by supervisors. I have never witnessed a black person called the n-word, I don’t think I will ever see a believable report of it, but if you go through complaints of wrongful firing, it appears that every single black employee who was ever let go from so much as an ice cream stand remembers being called the n-word (but never recording it or doing anything about it when it happened). A similar example: there was this black community meme encouraged by the criminal lyingpress, a belief sprung from air but frequently propagated and always believed, that Trayvon Martin’s attempted murder of George Zimmerman was morally justified and even legal, because (as no witmess or recording would bear out) Zimmerman supposedly addressed Trayvon with the n-word.
    Of course this adapts well to the “punch a Nazi” idea.
    It somehow never raises the question, say, after the Christian-Newsom horror, or that guy in New York who had his skull caved in, or that invaded children’s birthday party in Texas, or that WWII vet who was immolated after watching his wife get raped, that if a two syllable word can justify violence, then what response would black violence justify?

  187. J.Ross says:
    @Mr. Grey

    If you watch one show with leftist pollution it should totally be the Wire. Omar is a self-defeatingly nonsensical character. The Wire is fantastic despite its failures and biases.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  188. Gunner says:
    @Jean Ralphio Jr.

    All these moronic writers had to do was use a city besides heavily Irish Catholic New York in the 30s, and they couldn’t even do that!

  189. Thud says: • Website
    @nebulafox

    The brothers at their best.

  190. Alden says:
    @mmack

    Does anyone know if the brewers and spirits producers made any effort to stop prohibition? Seems to me they should have.

  191. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The poop-dumper has been captured.Samuel Opoku, 23, is now in police custody.

    Obviously he was doing a job Canadians won’t do, who will pick up the bucket now?

  192. Alden says:
    @syonredux

    Native born Protestant American blacks are being assaulted by immigrant Roman Catholic Hispanic cops today.

  193. Alden says:
    @syonredux

    There’s a show about Bass Reeves in history channel and PBS. He was quite a lawman but it’s mostly about he was the model for the Line Ranger and prejudice cruelty and discrimination against blacks. . The thing is, Lone Ranger was a GGeneration boomer hero.

    I doubt anyone younger than 45 has ever heard of him.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  194. Yngvar says:

    Cinematic entertainment is all about transporting us to a fictional world that never where. We enjoy casting our minds eye at an existence not here.

    What we see on the silver screen is a reflection of Western culture. In the West introspection and self criticism is so ingrained that it tolerate it in the cultural output. Critical self-assessment and communist «struggle sessions» are a child of this, so Protestant Christianity, as the progenitor, have a lot to answer for.

  195. @obwandiyag

    It does make somewhat sense, in that both American whites and blacks have indeed been raised in somewhat the same Anglo milieu, that they should strive to keep their heritage. That was the position of the old school liberals who insisted that welfare was for Amerindians and blacks to keep up due to past abuse, but not for “foreign” ethnicities; of course, this seems to have been just a ruse. Similarly there was the position of Barbara Boxer, who wanted to defend black jobs in the 90s. after the latter passed though, seems no one else took her congressional commission’s advice… interestingly so.

    Realistically though, both Anglo-American whites and blacks always become somewhat segregated from each other, and therefore their interests haven’t always aligned. Naturally so, perhaps? Of course, the emerging (forcefully) integrated postwar society has helped mitigate that; but, unless a complete full mixture of the American genetic solution happens (which may result in a lower grade total product on average), there will be whites and blacks who cannot have mutual interests. And as a good example, blacks on their own support immigration a lot, have done so since the 90s. so the ball is on your turf…

    Because meanwhile, many whites in the Right support a more orderly yet still integrated society (if perhaps more physically segregated in practice), and better welfare for all Americans even (specially those of us not neocons, whose influence is thankfully dwindling), alongside a wall and a decline/moratorium in immigration. Even modern white nationalists tend to want to offer Anglo-American blacks/browns their own homeland in their dream separatist proposals; see, even the natzees sense American blacks are not the same as Mexicans or Viet or Chinese or Amerind, ergo requiring their own homeland if they are to be hypothetically separated from American whites.

    It doesn’t help that enough blacks are highly influenced by the (((multiculturalist))) media, whether Rush Hour, Fast and Furious, Chappelle’s Show, and many others where blacks ally with other browns (and certain (((pale ones)))) against whitey… an evolution of the blaxploitation theme of the 70s. And now this new SJWatchmen, which is admittedly only for more deluded radicals like Bouie. But it is these useless radicals that influence and staff the universities and schools, and from there on the rot seeps through…

    Likewise, many whites have indeed become atomized by mainstream culture and suburbia chasing, which on one hand may indicate the lower racial and patriotic pride they feel, but also the lower attachment they feel to blacks and browns and even rural whites. The Great Migration made blacks urban wards of the Dems, the concurrent great white flight made whites atomized wards of Reps in the country and Dems in the bureaucracies and collegetowns. I don’t know an easy resolution, because like I said earlier, there seems to be enough differences in the American genetic mixture for it to never mix fully into a uniform American race…

  196. Yngvar says:

    What kind of society produces masked vigilantes? Who takes on the mask?

    In the context this is a very dangerous statement. It is on par with the ‘screw-the-optics-im-going-in’-type of anti-civilizational utterances. It encourages something we do not want, that we do not need. It must be condemned.

  197. Muggles says:

    I may not be the only one here to observe that in “racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, etc.” Amerika here, that extremely old or totally invented hate groups need to be used as plot devices for this kind of virtue signaling stuff.

    KKK? Nazis? Sexist men forcing young women to wear Belgian nun type wimples? (the latter the famous “Handmaidens Tale” garb, written by a Canadian woman.)

    One might be tempted to conclude that these fictional outfits are needed because none similar exist to any actual extent in modern America. Is anyone writing about an AntiFa thugs attacking people attending patriotic meetings or conservative rallies? Haven’t seen one.

    The Handmaidens Tale stuff is a hoot, though now in book 2.0 and a miniseries. Do men actually want young desirable women to look like Belgian nuns? Maybe at a drag show. Otherwise, no. But oooh so scary. Yes, men can be awful but too few women get the bad ones arrested, testify against them or shoot the bastards when necessary.

    Anyway, in the land of non existent hate groups (unless you search hard and wide for a few tiny ones) the invented or resurrected ones of the past have to do. We are truly living in a Post Reality world.

  198. Muggles says:
    @Alden

    There was a Lone Ranger film out about three years ago. Tonto was wearing some kind of raven’s nest hat, as I recall.

    It failed horribly. You don’t really want to gay up Tonto like that. He had to deal with enough rumors as it was.

  199. “nefarious KKK-Cyclops members insert subliminal, mind control celluloid frames into Hollywood films vis-à-vis manipulated film projectors, these subliminal messages designed to trigger blacks into attacking each other.”

    There is a bit of irony here in that the actual show itself isn’t using any subtle subliminal messages. It’s overtly showing that anything wrong with blacks is do to an enormous illuminati-kkk conspiracy and that basically all whites are just plain bad.

  200. @Rahan

    By the late 1980’s Russian viewers were cheering when Rambo or Bond was shooting Russian conscripts while liberating dreamy Afghan freedom-fighters.

    Young Russians were telling each other how backward Russia is, reveling in every possible “crime” or “genocide” of the past, groaning orgasmically “we were worse than Nazis”, and desecrating some symbol of authority was a virtue.

    That’s interesting, where did you read or hear about that? Was it a tiny phenomenon or somewhat sizable?

  201. Rahan says:

    @Sam Malone
    “That’s interesting, where did you read or hear about that? Was it a tiny phenomenon or somewhat sizable?”

    Sorry for the late reply…
    In the late USSR/early Russian Federation, that’s what the press and media were banging on all the time. There was a real market for horror stories about not only the horrors of the Soviet system, but also the perpetual backwardness of Russia as such, since the dawn of time.

    It only started changing for real circa 2005, according to my observations, and has certainly changed in the last decade.

    But you have to remember, that the commies were the “social conservatives” in the sense of girls shouldn’t be slutty, boys should be effeminate, duty to country trumps individual desires, law and order, porn is evil, Western religious sects are sinister cults, etc.

    So for about a decade “embracing freedom” also meant rebelling against the “commie values”, which since the late 1950’s at least have been basically national conservative one party system with a planned economy. And this included tearing down statues, calling heroes traitors and cowards, and embracing everything Western (at least what looked “Western” to the recently unmoored populace).

    But it passed.

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