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From the New York Times:

When White People Call the Police on Black People

By Daniel Victor

May 11, 2018

What makes the police encounters chilling is how routine they are.

They’re sparked by black people going about their everyday lives, only to be interrupted by someone calling the police for the thinnest of suspicions.

In the past month, more than a handful of such interactions have attracted widespread attention on social media — and, in turn, in national outlets like The Times, CNN and The Washington Post.

“It happens so frequently to people of color that we don’t often think of it as a big deal or as particularly newsworthy,” said Paul Butler, a Georgetown University law professor who is the author of “Chokehold: Policing Black Men.”

“We don’t often think of it as a big deal or as particularly newsworthy:” Other than all the national news coverage.

Back in April, I looked out the window one evening and there were four LAPD squad SUVs blocking the street in front of my house. It turned out that the middle-aged guy who had recently started renting the house a few doors down had misplaced his keys and tried to get in a window. A neighbor who hadn’t met him yet had called the cops, thinking he was a burglar. The cops came, the man explained in a friendly manner, and they went away.

Not national news for some reason.

So the neighbors in 1964 who didn’t call the cops when Kitty Genovese was being raped and murdered were just being appropriately woke to white privilege?

Who knew?

 
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  1. L Woods says:

    Why yes, it is chilling how black men manage to account for such a vastly disproportionate share of police call-worthy crime. Clearly this calls for a national conversation.

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    A serious "national conversation" on the propensity of black males to be involved in crime is the last thing the New York Times wants.
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  2. Kurlos says:

    The NYT has interesting threshold for “routine.”

    According to the NOAA, over the last 20 years, the United States averaged 51 annual lightning strike fatalities. 4.25 per month.

    The frequency of whites reporting blacks in the past month has been roughly the frequency of fatalities by lightening strikes.

    There are 37,144,530 blacks in the US, and over the past month “more than (five)” incidents have occurred.

    About once a week over the past month 0.0000003 percent of blacks were on the news for unwarranted calls to police.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Check your math
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  3. peterike says:

    Of course there are literally tens of millons of white/black encounters every day that amount to nothing. But hey, racism.

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  4. J.Ross says: • Website

    STOP DEFENDING YOURSELVES!
    ABANDON ANY INSTITUTION OR PRACTICE THAT PROTECTS YOU!

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  5. Tiny Duck is indisposed today and asked me to fill in for him.

    Poor black people. They just can’t get a break. But, in a paradoxical way, it’s their own fault, really. They’ve been such a model minority for so long and we’ve come to expect so much from them that we subconsciously hold them to a higher standard than any other group in our society. They are victims of their own success. Any deviation, no matter how trivial, from the stereotype of perfection we’ve come to associate with them, calls attention to itself and we pounce mercilessly on the transgressor. And for what? For just being a fallible human like the rest of us.

    But they soldier bravely on, taking comfort in their Christ-like, all-encompassing wisdom and compassion for us, their inferiors, with the thought that “This too shall pass”.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Needed some typos, awkward grammar, and slam whites more--but good first approximation...
    , @MBlanc46
    Good beat. Easy to dance to. I’ll give it a 7. The real TD doubtless could have gotten an 8 or even a 9 out of it.
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  6. AndrewR says:
    @Kurlos
    The NYT has interesting threshold for “routine.”

    According to the NOAA, over the last 20 years, the United States averaged 51 annual lightning strike fatalities. 4.25 per month.

    The frequency of whites reporting blacks in the past month has been roughly the frequency of fatalities by lightening strikes.

    There are 37,144,530 blacks in the US, and over the past month “more than (five)” incidents have occurred.

    About once a week over the past month 0.0000003 percent of blacks were on the news for unwarranted calls to police.

    Check your math

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    • Replies: @Kurlos
    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .
    , @Logan
    37,144,530 x 0.0000003% = 0.11 black people.

    37,144,530 x 0.0000135% = 5.0145.
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  7. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I got called a racist about this nonsense on Twitter by a guy who lives in 1% black Maine.

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    • Replies: @L Woods
    I don't think your 1% includes the wondrously vibrant refugee population, which is highly visible in the central part of the state. Locals, of course, are thoroughly cowed. When a companion of mine asked a local bartender about the crime, the bartender made vague reference to "apartments."
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  8. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m surprised at how Blacks now seem to want to assert what amounts to bad manners as a fundamental civil right.

    Voting rights — OK.

    Hanging around without buying something?

    Strolling at graduation?

    Sleeping in a common room.

    Sure they are ordinary. But hardly admirable.

    The real issue is that calling the cops isn’t the worst thing that can happen. Ordinary people don’t get shot by cops regardless of cops. There is an open source cop shooting national database. You have to do something extreme to get shot.

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    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    Like be kneeling in a hallway, crying and begging for your life. Or opening the door to your house. Or be staying in your garage or living room.

    It is well past time we disarmed the cops. One dead innocent is one too many.
    , @The King is A Fink

    There is an open source cop shooting national database.
     
    I had a quick Google and nothing is grabbing my attention. Do you have a link you can share? Thanks in advance.
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  9. AndrewR says:

    Twice in my life, I’ve had the cops called on me by neighbors who didn’t recognize me, soon after (and in one of the cases, while) I moved into a home. I am white, and so were the neighbors. Not a pleasant experience but it’s the price one pays for living in a low-crime community where the cops actually come when you call them. This differs from some communities where you’re lucky to get a cop to respond to a felony-in-progress.

    One of the most toxic cultural phenomena that the elites push on us (and many blacks are too happy to buy into) is the idea that every unpleasant thing that happens to a black is due to racism. White person calls the cops on you? Racism. White person was rude to you? Racism. Etc. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but these articles are so corrosive because they help perpetuate the idea that white supremacy is everywhere and indescribably awful for those poor POC.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.
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  10. L Woods says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I got called a racist about this nonsense on Twitter by a guy who lives in 1% black Maine.

    https://twitter.com/wfkars/status/995067544364048386?s=21

    I don’t think your 1% includes the wondrously vibrant refugee population, which is highly visible in the central part of the state. Locals, of course, are thoroughly cowed. When a companion of mine asked a local bartender about the crime, the bartender made vague reference to “apartments.”

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  11. Frank G says:

    And now if you anger the social justice crowd you’ll get your very own custom entry on Google’s search page (on the right):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Sarah%20Braasch

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is "punching up" at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation's history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.
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  12. Svigor says:

    What makes the police encounters chilling is how routine they are.

    This is what makes Black people chilling. But Victor isn’t allowed to think that, so he displaces blame onto the police.

    P.S., Blacks are infamous for dialing 911 over their controlled substances being stolen, not getting service fast enough at Church’s Chicken, etc. They’re probably the main culprits (insofar as there are any) here, too.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Oh, Victor's allowed to think it.

    But he wouldn't have much of a Bezos News or other chattering class career if he did.

    They write what sells. Get enough NYT bullet points on your CV, and you can get jobs all kinds of places. Silicon Valley Community Foundation even.
    , @bomag

    P.S., Blacks are infamous for dialing 911 over their controlled substances being stolen, not getting service fast enough at Church’s Chicken, etc. They’re probably the main culprits (insofar as there are any) here, too.
     
    This.

    Plus, Blacks greatly enjoy it when the modern police state awards them beaucoup bucks from baby powder on the private parts, etc.
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  13. It would be nice to have some real statistics.

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident – as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn’t.

    Apparently there are about 14,000 Starbucks in the US. So, if we can come up with only two claimed incidents of bad racial acting by Starbucks employees – that is an infinitesimal percent of Starbucks visitors. One has a greater chance of being struck by lightning (1 in 700,00) than being the victim of a racial incident in Starbucks.

    It reminds me of the hysteria about that county clerk in Georgia – Kim Davis – who refused to certify gay marriages. Seems to me the bigger story there was that out of the thousands of county clerks in the US – only one refused to certify gay marriages.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    It's the mythmaking function of the mass media, LL.

    Also clickbait.
    , @Svigor

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident – as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn’t.
     
    What's funny is that Tim Wise endorses this kind of discrimination, when the shoe is on the other foot; he's expressly excused the huge disparity between black-on-white violent crime and white-on-black violent crime as "not racist" because Blacks know Whites have more money, so it's perfectly okay for Blacks to target them for violent crimes at a disproportionate rate.

    Similarly, Whites have more money, so it makes sense to cater more to them as customers (let them use el banjo because revenue down the road).
    , @Marty
    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.
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  14. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Black people would be better off, like most people would be, by being friendly, polite, and considerate as a default. They’d get better service, be more likely to be hired, less likely to be arrested, etc. In short, their lives would be better. But the media creates a vicious cycle by hyping these man-bites-dog stories of innocent blacks getting the cops called on them, which increases black hostility, which leads to more calls to the cops, and so on.

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    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with black are all friendly and polite. The media and a few bad actors create all this blown-up crapola for their own notoriety.

    Starbucks is overpriced and overrated anyway. The last time I was in one... about 3 months ago... there were a couple of homeless people sitting outside smoking butts they picked up off the ground. Gross. I offered one my unfinished coffee just to see if he'd drink it. He declined. I guess he had some standards still functioning.
    , @MBlanc46
    I’m sure that this sort of story fuels black hostility. But acting belligerently is characteristic of American blacks (and, from what I’ve seen of blacks in Europe, of blacks generally). Civilized behavior usually results in civilized responses.
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  15. Anon[972] • Disclaimer says:

    The thing that infuriates me is that, no matter what the complaint, the company/institution/authorities immemdiately cave in. There is absolutely nothing for them to lose by caving in and much to lose by not, I suppose. I think there should be something to lose by caving in, as in the case of the NRA boycotts, which have started to cut both ways for companies, such that they at least have to spend a moment thinking about what to do.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of push backs, several gun companies no longer do business with the aptly named Dick's.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/gun-manufacturers-fire-back-at-dicks-sporting-goods-halt-sales/
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  16. Olorin says:
    @Svigor

    What makes the police encounters chilling is how routine they are.
     
    This is what makes Black people chilling. But Victor isn't allowed to think that, so he displaces blame onto the police.

    P.S., Blacks are infamous for dialing 911 over their controlled substances being stolen, not getting service fast enough at Church's Chicken, etc. They're probably the main culprits (insofar as there are any) here, too.

    Oh, Victor’s allowed to think it.

    But he wouldn’t have much of a Bezos News or other chattering class career if he did.

    They write what sells. Get enough NYT bullet points on your CV, and you can get jobs all kinds of places. Silicon Valley Community Foundation even.

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    • Replies: @Svigor
    No, they don't write what sells. A race-realist media outlet or content creator can draw a lot of eyeballs and money, if not for the negative externalities (i.e., leftist aggression).

    Mel Gibson did a great job of putting the "what sells" bullshit in its place.

    But if you meant "what sells to the oligarchs who own the paper, and the overseers they hire to carry out their will, and the fed they direct to create the regulatory and legal environment," sure, I'd agree with that.

    , @Jack Hanson
    When I was a kid in the 90s any pushback against the first strikes of globohomo gayplex in popular culture was met with "all controversy is good advertising!" by the people pushing it.

    Now all it takes is tweet with 50 shares and corporations stumble to grovel before "popular demand". You're kidding yourself if you think its about money. The stance of brands like Yeti and Dick's to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.

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  17. Olorin says:
    @LeftLawyer
    It would be nice to have some real statistics.

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident - as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn't.

    Apparently there are about 14,000 Starbucks in the US. So, if we can come up with only two claimed incidents of bad racial acting by Starbucks employees - that is an infinitesimal percent of Starbucks visitors. One has a greater chance of being struck by lightning (1 in 700,00) than being the victim of a racial incident in Starbucks.

    It reminds me of the hysteria about that county clerk in Georgia - Kim Davis - who refused to certify gay marriages. Seems to me the bigger story there was that out of the thousands of county clerks in the US - only one refused to certify gay marriages.

    It’s the mythmaking function of the mass media, LL.

    Also clickbait.

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  18. JackOH says:
    @AndrewR
    Twice in my life, I've had the cops called on me by neighbors who didn't recognize me, soon after (and in one of the cases, while) I moved into a home. I am white, and so were the neighbors. Not a pleasant experience but it's the price one pays for living in a low-crime community where the cops actually come when you call them. This differs from some communities where you're lucky to get a cop to respond to a felony-in-progress.

    One of the most toxic cultural phenomena that the elites push on us (and many blacks are too happy to buy into) is the idea that every unpleasant thing that happens to a black is due to racism. White person calls the cops on you? Racism. White person was rude to you? Racism. Etc. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but these articles are so corrosive because they help perpetuate the idea that white supremacy is everywhere and indescribably awful for those poor POC.

    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I’d just moved to my current residence. I’m a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: “Are you lost?” “Did your car break down?”

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn’t deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I’d never met.

    I’m not sure there’s any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

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    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Ivy
    Take a dog for a walk. I'm older than you and notice a difference when walking with and without our dog. Some people wait for me to pass by before opening their garage, while others observe a tall guy and go into Threat Assessment Mode. My dog still loves me, and we have a nice walk.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    You are correct: walking with a dog or with a walking stick removes the suspicion that you are up to no good.
    , @sayless
    Someone called the cops on Bob Dylan when he was taking a walk in Atlantic City a few years back. "What are you doing here?" " I'm on tour. "

    He didn't have an ID on him, so they took him into custody and down to the station. Older cops at the station vouched for him (and asked for his autograph.)

    Happy ending.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for the tip. I do sometimes walk in the evening to unwind. And I am stopped by police occasionally. Somehow things never get all Michael Brown, though.
    , @North Carolina Resident
    People looked at you oddly because of your clothes. Who wears khakis, sweater and Rockports for morning walks? If you had worn running shoes and athletic clothing plus carried a water bottle, no one would have questioned you.
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  19. AndrewR says:
    @Frank G
    And now if you anger the social justice crowd you'll get your very own custom entry on Google's search page (on the right):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Sarah%20Braasch

    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is “punching up” at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation’s history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.

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    • Replies: @Iberiano
    the sooner and better white women are tried into the "national discussion" on race, the sooner the red pills will spread. WW have almost been completely excluded from the issue, shielded by their claims of powerlessness and "white male patriarchy". What we are seeing is the natural and logical end-game to all of this--white women are in positions of authority and prestige (such as all the stats show, more law and medical school students, etc) and they are now finding themselves the target of all the hate they have directed at white men for decades.

    #[email protected]!

    #IviesOnlyColorNow

    #NoWhiteWomen2020
    , @Anon
    Apparently the black guy in the stairway she called the cops on wasn’t a student but a friend of the woman sleeping in the common room.

    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.

    Like Temple, USC, university of Chicago, Columbia and thousands of other colleges Yale is surrounded by a crime ridden black neighborhood
    , @CCZ
    Just a sign that Trump has unleashed the KKK, CNN tells us:

    "Journalist: White people terrorizing black people" [when calling police]

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/05/12/ernest-owens-racial-profiling-new-day-weekend-sot.cnn
    , @Thirdeye
    Look at the video taken by the grad student she called the cops on. The only question is whether she's racist or just an all-around asshole.
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  20. Anon[972] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Gustavo Arellano, he of the late, great “Ask a Mexican” column formerly on Unz, has a piece at the Columbia Journalism Review about a local dispute in Los Angeles, where the alt weekly changed hands.

    https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/la-weekly.php

    This was interesting to me because he reported the story out, visited the publication, asked to see various documents and emails, and ended up not coming down on the side of the protesters.

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  21. Iberiano says:

    Wow, reading the comments…the Left really are eating their own. It’s nice to see white women get the same treatment they’ve lavished on white men for so long, check out the one the guy posted on the gal from Yale. Ouch.

    It’s like the red scare out there.

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  22. Authorities are attempting to identify at least seven men who were involved in multiple strong-arm robberies in the parking lot of an El Segundo hotel, police said Thursday.

    The thefts were caught on surveillance cameras April 28 at a Residence Inn in the 2100 block of East El Segundo Boulevard, according to the El Segundo Police Department.

    Four men drove to the hotel around 11:10 p.m. and proceeded to attack two victims in the parking lot. A second car with at least three people in it was involved as well, investigators said.

    The group first targeted a man with a backpack, ganging up on him and stealing his bag, police said. Even after they took his belongings, they proceeded to kick and punch him as he lay on the ground, the surveillance video shows.

    Several of the men can then be seen violently beating up a man who was near his car with a woman.

    The group then turns their attention to a group of women in another part of the parking lot. One of the men punched one of the woman in the back of her head before grabbing her necklace off her neck…….

    Officials only described the suspects as black men who are believed to be between 18 and 22 years old.

    http://ktla.com/2018/05/10/police-seek-to-id-men-involved-in-violent-robberies-outside-el-segundo-hotel/

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  23. Tiny Duck says:

    Man I cannot wait for demographic change so that whites can feel some pain

    Your descendants will not look like you

    America will soon be a martini of Color

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    • Replies: @Elmer T. Jones
    If you can't wait why not relocate from that all-white college town you live in (and where you identify the guy stocking vegetables at Trader Joe's as one of your Black Friends) to a more vibrant and diverse locale? It would give you priceless street cred on this forum.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    America will soon be a martini of Color

     

    And you'll be the olive.

    Personally, I prefer a Gibson.

    https://www.liquoronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Gibson-gin-martini1.jpg
    , @CCZ
    Stop being a virtue signaling hypocrite. If you can not wait for demographic change, move to Baltimore, right now. It will probably be even better in the summer months.

    "For 2017, Baltimore is now precisely tied with Venezuela, a country suffering from an economic collapse at 57.2 murders per 100,000 residents." That is some great demographic change and available for you right now!!

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-100-homicides-20180509-story.html

    The Baltimore Sun even offers an interactive "homicide map" so that you can locate the most colorful neighborhoods and track the climb toward a new homicide record.

    https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/

    , @MBlanc46
    Better keep an eye out, TD. ThreeCranes is moving in on your territory. A little more polishing of his act, and we won’t need you.
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  24. Iberiano says:
    @AndrewR
    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is "punching up" at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation's history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.

    the sooner and better white women are tried into the “national discussion” on race, the sooner the red pills will spread. WW have almost been completely excluded from the issue, shielded by their claims of powerlessness and “white male patriarchy”. What we are seeing is the natural and logical end-game to all of this–white women are in positions of authority and prestige (such as all the stats show, more law and medical school students, etc) and they are now finding themselves the target of all the hate they have directed at white men for decades.

    #[email protected]!

    #IviesOnlyColorNow

    #NoWhiteWomen2020

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  25. Svigor says:
    @Olorin
    Oh, Victor's allowed to think it.

    But he wouldn't have much of a Bezos News or other chattering class career if he did.

    They write what sells. Get enough NYT bullet points on your CV, and you can get jobs all kinds of places. Silicon Valley Community Foundation even.

    No, they don’t write what sells. A race-realist media outlet or content creator can draw a lot of eyeballs and money, if not for the negative externalities (i.e., leftist aggression).

    Mel Gibson did a great job of putting the “what sells” bullshit in its place.

    But if you meant “what sells to the oligarchs who own the paper, and the overseers they hire to carry out their will, and the fed they direct to create the regulatory and legal environment,” sure, I’d agree with that.

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    So you're saying that selling yourself to your next Chattering Class employer isn't "selling"?
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  26. We will see more and more of these stories as (take your pick) attempt to solidify a narrative establishing a new rule that White people arent allowed to call the police.

    The Starbucks incident ™ was heavy with rhetoric about how Whites calling the police is bad, and the personal shaming of this White girl (who with all her degrees, is a story all to herself) is designed to put normie Whites into the position of White cops: always hesitating when blacks are involved; you better be really really sure, cause if you’re wrong you’re fucked, better just look the other way.

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    "always hesitating when blacks are involved"...."If you're wrong you're fucked"

    It's worse than that.

    --Like that Columbia student who was polite to the guy in the lobby of her building when she entered, and then was tortured for nineteen hours in 2007. She didn't want to be a racist.


    He got 422 years I think.
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  27. Svigor says:
    @LeftLawyer
    It would be nice to have some real statistics.

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident - as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn't.

    Apparently there are about 14,000 Starbucks in the US. So, if we can come up with only two claimed incidents of bad racial acting by Starbucks employees - that is an infinitesimal percent of Starbucks visitors. One has a greater chance of being struck by lightning (1 in 700,00) than being the victim of a racial incident in Starbucks.

    It reminds me of the hysteria about that county clerk in Georgia - Kim Davis - who refused to certify gay marriages. Seems to me the bigger story there was that out of the thousands of county clerks in the US - only one refused to certify gay marriages.

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident – as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn’t.

    What’s funny is that Tim Wise endorses this kind of discrimination, when the shoe is on the other foot; he’s expressly excused the huge disparity between black-on-white violent crime and white-on-black violent crime as “not racist” because Blacks know Whites have more money, so it’s perfectly okay for Blacks to target them for violent crimes at a disproportionate rate.

    Similarly, Whites have more money, so it makes sense to cater more to them as customers (let them use el banjo because revenue down the road).

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  28. @anon
    I'm surprised at how Blacks now seem to want to assert what amounts to bad manners as a fundamental civil right.

    Voting rights --- OK.

    Hanging around without buying something?

    Strolling at graduation?

    Sleeping in a common room.

    Sure they are ordinary. But hardly admirable.

    The real issue is that calling the cops isn't the worst thing that can happen. Ordinary people don't get shot by cops regardless of cops. There is an open source cop shooting national database. You have to do something extreme to get shot.

    Like be kneeling in a hallway, crying and begging for your life. Or opening the door to your house. Or be staying in your garage or living room.

    It is well past time we disarmed the cops. One dead innocent is one too many.

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  29. “They’re sparked by black people going about their everyday lives…”

    Blacks going about their everyday lives typically involves committing any assortment of crime, at least relative to every other racial group.

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  30. Ivy says:
    @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

    Take a dog for a walk. I’m older than you and notice a difference when walking with and without our dog. Some people wait for me to pass by before opening their garage, while others observe a tall guy and go into Threat Assessment Mode. My dog still loves me, and we have a nice walk.

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  31. @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

    You are correct: walking with a dog or with a walking stick removes the suspicion that you are up to no good.

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    Which is kind of weird, since a walking stick is a weapon. Less suspicious because you're openly carrying a weapon. LOL
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    I wlak my two dogs while using a walking stick. Guess I'm home free. Oh, yeah, I'm a white guy of a certain age, too.
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  32. Marty says:
    @LeftLawyer
    It would be nice to have some real statistics.

    Whatever you think of the Philadelphia Starbucks incident - as far as I know, the press has come up with only one arguably similar incident in California, where a white non-customer was allowed use of the bathroom and a black guy wasn't.

    Apparently there are about 14,000 Starbucks in the US. So, if we can come up with only two claimed incidents of bad racial acting by Starbucks employees - that is an infinitesimal percent of Starbucks visitors. One has a greater chance of being struck by lightning (1 in 700,00) than being the victim of a racial incident in Starbucks.

    It reminds me of the hysteria about that county clerk in Georgia - Kim Davis - who refused to certify gay marriages. Seems to me the bigger story there was that out of the thousands of county clerks in the US - only one refused to certify gay marriages.

    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.

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    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.
     
    Homeless San Francisco junkies with suppurating wounds don't count as white in this context.

    @JackOH

    My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: “Are you lost?” “Did your car break down?”
     
    In my old neighborhood in Los Angeles, now that I think about it, you would notice someone walking on the sidewalk who didn't live there. There were certain thoroughfare streets people walked to get to the store, barber, YMCA, church, but the only residential streets you'd walk on were from your street to the nearest thoroughfare street and from the thoroughfare street location nearest to the final destination to the final destination. I think you'd suspect casing otherwise. And yes, you'd profile the walker and only call the cops in certain cases, which would definitely include being black, since no blacks lived in the area. In borderline cases you might gather more information, by speaking to the interloper and see his reaction.

    Today I ride my bicycle or drive my car and occasionally end up in cul de sac. You really get looked at in those.

    This behavior is a budget form of living in a gated community. And what's wrong with that?

    One thing that I think is dangerous is the wholesale release of 911 calls to the media and anyone else. In these doxing days, it acts as a disincentive to report stuff in time to prevent crimes. So before you know it your voice is on television and your neighbors are outing you to the press:

    "911, what's your report?

    "A group of about a dozen youths is gathering on Main Street."

    "Description ... race?"

    "I told you already, 'youths.'"
    , @Jim Don Bob
    But that's because of their White Privilege, doncha know.
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  33. I think we’re getting close to the point of removing legal penalties for non-violent crime committed by blacks. Violent crime too, if the radical get their way.

    Some Oakland churches offer drastic advice: Stop calling the police
    By Julie Zauzmer | Washington Post

    First Congregational Church of Oakland shares a neighborhood with many homeless people, and they often come to the church in times of mental health crises. Sometimes church members feel unequipped to deal with the erratic behavior: the most heart-wrenching scenes, volunteer leader Nichola Torbett says, are the times when the church is closing for the day, and a person with nowhere else to go absolutely refuses to leave the building.

    At least once or twice a month, at their wits’ end, the church members call 911.

    Now, the church has joined a small handful of like-minded congregations with a radical goal: to stop calling the police. Not for mental health crises, not for graffiti on their buildings, not even for acts of violence. These churches believe the American police system, criticized for its impact especially on people of color, is such a problem that they should wash their hands of it entirely.

    “Can this actually be reformed, when it was actually created for the unjust distribution of resources or to police black and brown bodies?” Torbett asked. For her and for her fellow church members, the answer is no — the police don’t just need reform. The police need to be abandoned altogether….

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  34. This is just the Dem midterm election get-out-the-vote project.

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    That makes so much sense that it's discomfiting.
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  35. @Dave Pinsen
    Black people would be better off, like most people would be, by being friendly, polite, and considerate as a default. They’d get better service, be more likely to be hired, less likely to be arrested, etc. In short, their lives would be better. But the media creates a vicious cycle by hyping these man-bites-dog stories of innocent blacks getting the cops called on them, which increases black hostility, which leads to more calls to the cops, and so on.

    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with black are all friendly and polite. The media and a few bad actors create all this blown-up crapola for their own notoriety.

    Starbucks is overpriced and overrated anyway. The last time I was in one… about 3 months ago… there were a couple of homeless people sitting outside smoking butts they picked up off the ground. Gross. I offered one my unfinished coffee just to see if he’d drink it. He declined. I guess he had some standards still functioning.

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    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with blacks are all friendly and polite.

    Living in a city that is about 35% black, this is my experience as well. Most of the really obnoxious blacks I encounter are on television or YouTube and writing opinion pieces for the NY Times or Slate. In real life, I don't run into these people.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    I held the door for a black neighbor earlier today and she politely thanked me. So, I'm aware that there are plenty of black people who are perfectly pleasant. But I suspect the recent run-ins with the police (like in the Starbucks in Philly) happen to those who aren't.
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  36. @L Woods
    Why yes, it is chilling how black men manage to account for such a vastly disproportionate share of police call-worthy crime. Clearly this calls for a national conversation.

    A serious “national conversation” on the propensity of black males to be involved in crime is the last thing the New York Times wants.

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  37. @stillCARealist
    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with black are all friendly and polite. The media and a few bad actors create all this blown-up crapola for their own notoriety.

    Starbucks is overpriced and overrated anyway. The last time I was in one... about 3 months ago... there were a couple of homeless people sitting outside smoking butts they picked up off the ground. Gross. I offered one my unfinished coffee just to see if he'd drink it. He declined. I guess he had some standards still functioning.

    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with blacks are all friendly and polite.

    Living in a city that is about 35% black, this is my experience as well. Most of the really obnoxious blacks I encounter are on television or YouTube and writing opinion pieces for the NY Times or Slate. In real life, I don’t run into these people.

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  38. sayless says:
    @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

    Someone called the cops on Bob Dylan when he was taking a walk in Atlantic City a few years back. “What are you doing here?” ” I’m on tour. ”

    He didn’t have an ID on him, so they took him into custody and down to the station. Older cops at the station vouched for him (and asked for his autograph.)

    Happy ending.

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  39. Anon[972] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty
    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.

    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.

    Homeless San Francisco junkies with suppurating wounds don’t count as white in this context.

    My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: “Are you lost?” “Did your car break down?”

    In my old neighborhood in Los Angeles, now that I think about it, you would notice someone walking on the sidewalk who didn’t live there. There were certain thoroughfare streets people walked to get to the store, barber, YMCA, church, but the only residential streets you’d walk on were from your street to the nearest thoroughfare street and from the thoroughfare street location nearest to the final destination to the final destination. I think you’d suspect casing otherwise. And yes, you’d profile the walker and only call the cops in certain cases, which would definitely include being black, since no blacks lived in the area. In borderline cases you might gather more information, by speaking to the interloper and see his reaction.

    Today I ride my bicycle or drive my car and occasionally end up in cul de sac. You really get looked at in those.

    This behavior is a budget form of living in a gated community. And what’s wrong with that?

    One thing that I think is dangerous is the wholesale release of 911 calls to the media and anyone else. In these doxing days, it acts as a disincentive to report stuff in time to prevent crimes. So before you know it your voice is on television and your neighbors are outing you to the press:

    “911, what’s your report?

    “A group of about a dozen youths is gathering on Main Street.”

    “Description … race?”

    “I told you already, ‘youths.’”

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  40. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @stillCARealist
    Thing is, the few encounters that I have with black are all friendly and polite. The media and a few bad actors create all this blown-up crapola for their own notoriety.

    Starbucks is overpriced and overrated anyway. The last time I was in one... about 3 months ago... there were a couple of homeless people sitting outside smoking butts they picked up off the ground. Gross. I offered one my unfinished coffee just to see if he'd drink it. He declined. I guess he had some standards still functioning.

    I held the door for a black neighbor earlier today and she politely thanked me. So, I’m aware that there are plenty of black people who are perfectly pleasant. But I suspect the recent run-ins with the police (like in the Starbucks in Philly) happen to those who aren’t.

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  41. @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

    Thanks for the tip. I do sometimes walk in the evening to unwind. And I am stopped by police occasionally. Somehow things never get all Michael Brown, though.

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    Get a dog. A guy walking a dog is never suspicious.
    , @JackOH
    AM, you're a strong commenter here. Do you see any good way of White folks mounting a workable criticism of America's Black society that'll lead to a better America? (BTW-my next-door neighbors are Black, deeply religious and deeply conservative, but not in a way I understand as a belly-feel sort of thing.)
    , @MBlanc46
    Things never get all Michael Brown with you because you’re not Michael Brown. Folks who can’t grasp that there are different sorts of people judt can’t understand that.
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  42. sayless says:
    @27 year old
    We will see more and more of these stories as (take your pick) attempt to solidify a narrative establishing a new rule that White people arent allowed to call the police.

    The Starbucks incident (tm) was heavy with rhetoric about how Whites calling the police is bad, and the personal shaming of this White girl (who with all her degrees, is a story all to herself) is designed to put normie Whites into the position of White cops: always hesitating when blacks are involved; you better be really really sure, cause if you're wrong you're fucked, better just look the other way.

    “always hesitating when blacks are involved”….”If you’re wrong you’re fucked”

    It’s worse than that.

    –Like that Columbia student who was polite to the guy in the lobby of her building when she entered, and then was tortured for nineteen hours in 2007. She didn’t want to be a racist.

    He got 422 years I think.

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  43. Frank G says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat
    This is just the Dem midterm election get-out-the-vote project.

    That makes so much sense that it’s discomfiting.

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  44. Thomas says:

    Oakland recently had a minor imbroglio over this over a white woman calling police over some black guys using a charcoal barbecue in a non-designated area. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/woman-calls-police-oakland-barbecue_us_5af50125e4b00d7e4c18f741 (Bonus: Beckisha Goodhair Cavebitch turned on the tears for the cops, white women crying is now a microaggression unto itself: https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/dear-white-women-why-we-need-to-stop-crying-when-poc-call-us-out/ ; https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ899418.pdf)

    I think Steve pointed out a story in Chicago some years ago about code compliance being the latest trick in the gentrifiers arsenal to harass black residents out of desirable real estate. SWPLs love for persnickity regulating and black people being afraid of police are one of those things that are bound to keep bumping into each other.

    Bet you also the “don’t call police” thing, if it becomes a trend, is going to lead to a Kitty Genovese moment at some point.

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    "Don't call the police" is going to lead to blue states becoming Thunderdome.

    Red states might have the goodwhites refuse to call the cops, but you never know who has a CCW. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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  45. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is "punching up" at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation's history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.

    Apparently the black guy in the stairway she called the cops on wasn’t a student but a friend of the woman sleeping in the common room.

    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.

    Like Temple, USC, university of Chicago, Columbia and thousands of other colleges Yale is surrounded by a crime ridden black neighborhood

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    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.
     
    Indeed.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/9/30/brittany-smith-harvard-shooting-sentenced/
    , @Thirdeye
    "Apparently....." based on what? The guy is a student at Yale who was asking her directions to the common room in a dorm he was unfamiliar with. Sure, real suspicious.
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  46. Kurlos says:
    @AndrewR
    Check your math

    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .

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    There's about 40,000,000 blacks in the US, so 0.0000003% of 40,000,000 is 0.12. Black "victims of racism" have been in the news at a much higher rate than that lately.
    , @Stan d Mute

    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .
     
    Lots of aspies around Unz, they don’t get rhetoric.
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  47. Blubb says:

    I’d never heard of Kitty Genovese as I’m not American, so I googled her.

    Looks like the cops were called twice but didn’t show because they assumed domestic violence. They weren’t racist; they were sexist.

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    The New York Times admitted in 2016 that it had misreported the story about Kitty Genovese's murder. I think the editor wanted to make working class Christians look bad; All In The Family was yet to be achieved.

    That tale about thirty-eight people witnessing her murder, stumbling around in the parking lot for half an hour, is a fabrication. Kew Gardens Tourist Bureau should sue for damages.
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  48. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:

    Somehow, the notion that a group which averages 10x the criminality of the generality of our-group Americans arouses ‘disproportionate’ suspicion – or even commission of crime – somehow is invisible to the NYT.

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    "Somehow, the notion that a group which averages 10x the criminality of our-group Americans arouses 'disproportionate' suspicion - or even commission of crime -somehow is invisible to the NYT."

    Ever notice how self-serving the "blacks are victimized by the criminal justice system" trope is?
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  49. Mr. Anon says:

    In somewhat related news, Starbucks today announced it’s new line of business: operating a national chain of public restrooms:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/11/610337214/starbucks-will-give-people-the-key-to-restroom-regardless-of-purchase-ceo-says

    One can imagine how that will work out in cities like San Francisco, when their stores become overrun with piss-bums and junkies.

    Let’s see if if pays off for them

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    LOL. Let's see if a competing chain comes up with the smart business idea to promulgate an explicit policy requiring a purchase to use the facilities. I'm not counting on it.
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  50. Not entirely OT:

    Joe Van Gogh Coffee will leave Duke amid strife over rap music complaint

    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article210946959.html

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  51. Back in April, I looked out the window one evening and there were four LAPD squad SUVs blocking the street in front of my house. It turned out that the middle-aged guy who had recently started renting the house a few doors down had misplaced his keys and tried to get in a window. A neighbor who hadn’t met him yet had called the cops, thinking he was a burglar.

    Dammit! He deserves a beer-summit at the White House.

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  52. Logan says:
    @AndrewR
    Check your math

    37,144,530 x 0.0000003% = 0.11 black people.

    37,144,530 x 0.0000135% = 5.0145.

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  53. Logan says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for the tip. I do sometimes walk in the evening to unwind. And I am stopped by police occasionally. Somehow things never get all Michael Brown, though.

    Get a dog. A guy walking a dog is never suspicious.

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  54. Logan says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    You are correct: walking with a dog or with a walking stick removes the suspicion that you are up to no good.

    Which is kind of weird, since a walking stick is a weapon. Less suspicious because you’re openly carrying a weapon. LOL

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    My karate instructor practices stick fighting techniques. When he travels he carries a cane. At the airport they let him board first because of the cane, people open doors for him, etc. He is extremely fit and the cane is purely a weapon if needed.
    , @Joe Stalin
    I've seen people openly carrying hunting knives in a belted scabbard in Chicago. But the FUNNIEST rendition of this was when I was on Red line CTA train and there was a white man dressed as a Samurai warrior, complete with a "sword" that was actually a piece of wood. There were two CPD male cops also in the train car and they didn't blink an eye; when the man got off the cops LAUGHED to each other!
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  55. I am somewhat sympathetic to blacks on this one. But the problem is, because of their “culture” (i.e., propensity to violence), no one knows which ones are “socially well-adjusted” (to use John Derbyshire’s phrase) and which are not, especially when looking out the window at night.

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    I am somewhat sympathetic to blacks on this one. But the problem is, because of their “culture” (i.e., propensity to violence), no one knows which ones are “socially well-adjusted” (to use John Derbyshire’s phrase) and which are not, especially when looking out the window at night.
     
    In a normal social situation, you can usually tell a lot about threat level based on dress and demeanor.
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  56. AndrewR says:
    @Kurlos
    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .

    There’s about 40,000,000 blacks in the US, so 0.0000003% of 40,000,000 is 0.12. Black “victims of racism” have been in the news at a much higher rate than that lately.

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  57. @anon
    I'm surprised at how Blacks now seem to want to assert what amounts to bad manners as a fundamental civil right.

    Voting rights --- OK.

    Hanging around without buying something?

    Strolling at graduation?

    Sleeping in a common room.

    Sure they are ordinary. But hardly admirable.

    The real issue is that calling the cops isn't the worst thing that can happen. Ordinary people don't get shot by cops regardless of cops. There is an open source cop shooting national database. You have to do something extreme to get shot.

    There is an open source cop shooting national database.

    I had a quick Google and nothing is grabbing my attention. Do you have a link you can share? Thanks in advance.

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    http://www.fatalencounters.org
    , @CCZ
    From the leftist yellow journalists at The Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police-killings

    , @MaMu1977
    http://killedbypolice.net
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  58. So the neighbors in 1964 who didn’t call the cops when Kitty Genovese was being raped and murdered were just being appropriately woke to white privilege?

    By 1964, the psychological warfare had already started on (snarky airquotes) “respectable people”, perceiving themselves as having a duty to enforce the norms of a “good neighborhood”, calling the cops based on behavior they perceive as “suspicious”. That was already in the cultural atmosphere, and must have had some influence on the people who heard a commotion and decided to stay out of it.

    For example, what you’re supposed to learn from Twelve Angry Men is that before you report suspicious behavior to the police, you should suspect yourself of projecting your own racism/psychological baggage/family issues/craving for drama onto the skulking stranger.

    Perhaps the most memorable moment in that film was when the Bad White juror, exasperated by the needling and nitpicking of the Good White juror, leapt up and shouted “I’m going to kill you”, the message being that when you hear people shouting things like that you shouldn’t necessarily take it literally, and it’s not your business to intervene.

    I’d never heard of Kitty Genovese as I’m not American, so I googled her.

    I’d recommend the recent book on the case by Kevin Cook, who re-examines the parable of the Thirty Eight Witnesses, and brings into light some fascinating elements of the case that weren’t as widely publicized at the time.

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    The documentary, "The Witness", is very good.
    , @J.Ross
    Oh lovely, another book (snark). I have to stop coming here until I'm halfway through what I've already gotten from iSteve commenter recommendations.
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  59. A neighbor who hadn’t met him yet had called the cops, thinking he was a burglar. The cops came, the man explained in a friendly manner, and they went away.

    Would have gone very differently if he were black. Chris Rock explains why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHK4uaV1zQU

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  60. @Kurlos
    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .

    You check it. And then check if the point changes one way or the other. .

    Lots of aspies around Unz, they don’t get rhetoric.

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  61. @Tiny Duck
    Man I cannot wait for demographic change so that whites can feel some pain


    Your descendants will not look like you

    America will soon be a martini of Color

    If you can’t wait why not relocate from that all-white college town you live in (and where you identify the guy stocking vegetables at Trader Joe’s as one of your Black Friends) to a more vibrant and diverse locale? It would give you priceless street cred on this forum.

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  62. Starbucks shops are now public places. They will have to maintain public bathrooms for anyone who wants to use them. Customer or not. This will prove to be costly for the stores in high density areas with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

    I think I’ll go to my nearest Starbucks with a picnic basket. Or maybe I’ll go to the Dunkin‘ Donuts down the road and just eat it at Starbucks. Dunkin’ Donuts is cheaper, but the ambience is not as nice. For now.

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  63. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan
    Which is kind of weird, since a walking stick is a weapon. Less suspicious because you're openly carrying a weapon. LOL

    My karate instructor practices stick fighting techniques. When he travels he carries a cane. At the airport they let him board first because of the cane, people open doors for him, etc. He is extremely fit and the cane is purely a weapon if needed.

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    Does he pretend to be crippled?? How does he carry the cane? I'd be suspicious if I saw someone with a cane walking four miles an hour.
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  64. bomag says:
    @Svigor

    What makes the police encounters chilling is how routine they are.
     
    This is what makes Black people chilling. But Victor isn't allowed to think that, so he displaces blame onto the police.

    P.S., Blacks are infamous for dialing 911 over their controlled substances being stolen, not getting service fast enough at Church's Chicken, etc. They're probably the main culprits (insofar as there are any) here, too.

    P.S., Blacks are infamous for dialing 911 over their controlled substances being stolen, not getting service fast enough at Church’s Chicken, etc. They’re probably the main culprits (insofar as there are any) here, too.

    This.

    Plus, Blacks greatly enjoy it when the modern police state awards them beaucoup bucks from baby powder on the private parts, etc.

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  65. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @The King is A Fink

    There is an open source cop shooting national database.
     
    I had a quick Google and nothing is grabbing my attention. Do you have a link you can share? Thanks in advance.
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  66. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Reason: Driver, 24-year-old Tabais L. Robinson, was killed, while the passenger, 23-year-old Andre T. Gross, was treated at an area hospital for his injuries suffered when they crashed while they were fleeing from police. Robinson was wanted on a parole retake warrant and on a warrant for violation of probation, while Gross wAas wanted on five warrants from the Calvert County Sheriff’s Office.

    Here is a typical ‘fatal encounter’.

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    I forgot that Fatal Encounters include everyone that interacts and ends up dead. A lot of collateral damage from fleeing felons in cars. Not exactly a micr0agression.
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  67. Anon[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Apparently the black guy in the stairway she called the cops on wasn’t a student but a friend of the woman sleeping in the common room.

    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.

    Like Temple, USC, university of Chicago, Columbia and thousands of other colleges Yale is surrounded by a crime ridden black neighborhood

    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.

    Indeed.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/9/30/brittany-smith-harvard-shooting-sentenced/

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  68. The goal is clearly to allow certain groups to be regarded as above the law. Kind of like Hillary is, but on a broad scale. Let them shoplift without reacting. If they become violent, do not call the police. Plead with them Beg for mercy if needed because you owe them reparations and all. Or something…..

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  69. @Logan
    Which is kind of weird, since a walking stick is a weapon. Less suspicious because you're openly carrying a weapon. LOL

    I’ve seen people openly carrying hunting knives in a belted scabbard in Chicago. But the FUNNIEST rendition of this was when I was on Red line CTA train and there was a white man dressed as a Samurai warrior, complete with a “sword” that was actually a piece of wood. There were two CPD male cops also in the train car and they didn’t blink an eye; when the man got off the cops LAUGHED to each other!

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    Hey, Miyamoto Musashi fought and won several duels with a wooden sword (bokken). It'll do.
    , @J.Ross
    Have you forgotten the public transportation ronin of Phoenix?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVHWqqzVnfw
    (I couldn't find a good video of this, apparently the original was taken down.)
    , @Logan
    Back in the 70s I carried a Buck folding hunter on my belt every day in high school in Kansas City. Nobody ever questioned it. Despite enduring considerable bullying the first two years, I never once thought of it as a weapon.

    Today they'd probably shut down the entire school if someone showed up with this.

    Also my dad used to bring his 22 to school and leave it in his locker so they could shoot rabbits walking home. Course, that was back in the 20s.
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  70. CCZ says:
    @The King is A Fink

    There is an open source cop shooting national database.
     
    I had a quick Google and nothing is grabbing my attention. Do you have a link you can share? Thanks in advance.

    From the leftist yellow journalists at The Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police-killings

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  71. @Anon
    The thing that infuriates me is that, no matter what the complaint, the company/institution/authorities immemdiately cave in. There is absolutely nothing for them to lose by caving in and much to lose by not, I suppose. I think there should be something to lose by caving in, as in the case of the NRA boycotts, which have started to cut both ways for companies, such that they at least have to spend a moment thinking about what to do.

    Speaking of push backs, several gun companies no longer do business with the aptly named Dick’s.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/gun-manufacturers-fire-back-at-dicks-sporting-goods-halt-sales/

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    Dick's hasn't sold AR style rifles for many years in the vast majority of its stores. The only ones that carried AR's were the 35 or so Field & Stream stores it operates. Nor has Dick's ever sold handguns. Dick's firearms selection is oriented toward hunters using traditional firearms, who aren't affected by the new policies.
    Two of the gun companies who won't do business with Dick's, Springfield Armory and Hi-Point, make "tacticool" style firearms that are of no interest to most hunters. The third one, Mossberg, does make traditional guns, especially shotguns, but the company has a history of overreaction to gun control measures.
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  72. Mr. Anon says:
    @LiveFreeOrDie
    I am somewhat sympathetic to blacks on this one. But the problem is, because of their "culture" (i.e., propensity to violence), no one knows which ones are "socially well-adjusted" (to use John Derbyshire's phrase) and which are not, especially when looking out the window at night.

    If they were only as randomly dangerous as whites, fewer whites would call them suspicious.

    I am somewhat sympathetic to blacks on this one. But the problem is, because of their “culture” (i.e., propensity to violence), no one knows which ones are “socially well-adjusted” (to use John Derbyshire’s phrase) and which are not, especially when looking out the window at night.

    In a normal social situation, you can usually tell a lot about threat level based on dress and demeanor.

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  73. @Marty
    I witnessed two white people being told they had to buy something to use the restroom, within 15 minutes of each other, about 3 months ago at a SF sbux, Geary Boulevard.

    But that’s because of their White Privilege, doncha know.

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  74. @Olorin
    Oh, Victor's allowed to think it.

    But he wouldn't have much of a Bezos News or other chattering class career if he did.

    They write what sells. Get enough NYT bullet points on your CV, and you can get jobs all kinds of places. Silicon Valley Community Foundation even.

    When I was a kid in the 90s any pushback against the first strikes of globohomo gayplex in popular culture was met with “all controversy is good advertising!” by the people pushing it.

    Now all it takes is tweet with 50 shares and corporations stumble to grovel before “popular demand”. You’re kidding yourself if you think its about money. The stance of brands like Yeti and Dick’s to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.

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    Dick’s to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.
     
    Dick's sucks ANYway. From a golf perspective (and I suspect every other), they're substandard. Just as pricey for balls, clubs and apparel as my pro shop down at Fox Hollow near Tampa without any of the attention from the employyes of which there are few to help in any case. Plus my pro shop fits shafts and clubs to your swing, I'm not aware of this capability at Dicks. Dick's is dying anyway, but if they want to act like simps in the face of Blacks who spend NOTHING at Dicks, what do I care if they die (Dick's that is, but Black that act like asswipes, too) ? They're a bunch of Dicks after all.
    , @Olorin
    As I noted to Svigor, "what sells" is often the scribbler's sale of himself or herself to various Scribble Sluices.

    Some people think that what they read in various forms of "print" has any substance other than a place holder in some larger mapping of influence and careers. That the writers, e.g., actually believe what they write.

    Author Victor will write what he knows those who hired him want him to write, and maybe even has talked himself into believing that the NYT is still some magnificent journal of record for the nation or whatever. That was my point.

    At least since the 1970s, "what sells" in the journo world rarely involves much money. The sale is of oneself. "Welcome to the humiliating world of professional writing!"

    Even more so today with the online media opening up so much more real estate that needs words and images to fill it. The e-celebs and pundits do what they do in the hopes of coming up with the Killer Career App that will bring them...whatever it is they think they are looking for, but usually just yet another job or by-line or whatever. There is so much career/job/title inflation, it's laughable, which is why a sub to LinkedIn is your best bet for ongoing comedy content.

    As for Yeti and Dick's...I'm not sure what's going on there and haven't had much of a chance to dig. But I wouldn't put too much store in PR wars these days. Look at how Yeti and Dick's do at the end of the quarter. And don't assume that those tweets with 50 shares weren't, say, internally generated to generate market differentiations.

    On Dick's--that company's in a pickle. It'll never get Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse's and Bass Pro's customers, so all it can do to cover its hyper-expansion bets of the past 4-5 years is try to differentiate itself as the sporting goods store where Hillary voters don't have to worry about looking at nasty Assault Rifles. While they themselves are larping as Outsiders (as LL Bean is putting it in its new race-mixing/multicult advertising campaign) but can't quite afford the overpriced crap at REI and don't want to have to deal with the snooty Portlandesque clerks there.

    2015: ba-ba-boom
    https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/dicks-sporting-goods-to-open-150-stores-by-2018

    2017--ermagerd, slow down!
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/05/16/dicks-sporting-goods/101741328/

    https://investorplace.com/2017/08/dicks-sporting-goods-inc-dks-stock-just-became-un-ownable/

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  75. I often see black people acting in a bizarre fashion in public, and I wonder if they are garden variety lost souls or if they are hoping that someone will call the police so that the black nutter can become the next Internet sensation.

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  76. @Thomas
    Oakland recently had a minor imbroglio over this over a white woman calling police over some black guys using a charcoal barbecue in a non-designated area. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/woman-calls-police-oakland-barbecue_us_5af50125e4b00d7e4c18f741 (Bonus: Beckisha Goodhair Cavebitch turned on the tears for the cops, white women crying is now a microaggression unto itself: https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/dear-white-women-why-we-need-to-stop-crying-when-poc-call-us-out/ ; https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ899418.pdf)

    I think Steve pointed out a story in Chicago some years ago about code compliance being the latest trick in the gentrifiers arsenal to harass black residents out of desirable real estate. SWPLs love for persnickity regulating and black people being afraid of police are one of those things that are bound to keep bumping into each other.

    Bet you also the "don't call police" thing, if it becomes a trend, is going to lead to a Kitty Genovese moment at some point.

    “Don’t call the police” is going to lead to blue states becoming Thunderdome.

    Red states might have the goodwhites refuse to call the cops, but you never know who has a CCW. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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  77. JackOH says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for the tip. I do sometimes walk in the evening to unwind. And I am stopped by police occasionally. Somehow things never get all Michael Brown, though.

    AM, you’re a strong commenter here. Do you see any good way of White folks mounting a workable criticism of America’s Black society that’ll lead to a better America? (BTW-my next-door neighbors are Black, deeply religious and deeply conservative, but not in a way I understand as a belly-feel sort of thing.)

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    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society to blacks, the short answer is no. The reason is the same reason that you or I would most likely not accept criticism--no matter how well meaning or accurate--of our own family from a stranger. Humans are just not wired up that way. In other words, race exists and our blood and brains know it even if our Progressive programming doesn't. And like the fake affectations of Leapfrogging Loyalties™, by which the fake-virtuous signal their superiority even though no one really believes them, demands coming from an outer ring for you to adjust your inner rings just don't register.

    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society in general, which might be used to improve laws and customs, well, that's a decent chunk of what Steve writes about, so consult the archives. The short version might be: operate from Citizenism, with some non-increasing consideration of blacks' disadvantaged original circumstances, but don't expect equal outcomes.

    I said above the short answer is no, but I can think of two partial exceptions. One is humor and comedy. Everyone likes to laugh, and African-descended people like to laugh even more than icy northerners. Criticism that would be unacceptable if stated programmatically, might work if it is funny. The Tough Crowd guys (Nick DiPaolo especially) used to make a lot of edgy racial cracks that may have gotten taken on board by the audience in some subconscious way.

    The other exception is if you are really friends with someone to the extent that you can discuss racial things candidly, but this is pretty unusual for most people, and it is also not a program, just something that takes place slowly, incrementally and individually.

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  78. prosa123 says: • Website
    @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of push backs, several gun companies no longer do business with the aptly named Dick's.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/gun-manufacturers-fire-back-at-dicks-sporting-goods-halt-sales/

    Dick’s hasn’t sold AR style rifles for many years in the vast majority of its stores. The only ones that carried AR’s were the 35 or so Field & Stream stores it operates. Nor has Dick’s ever sold handguns. Dick’s firearms selection is oriented toward hunters using traditional firearms, who aren’t affected by the new policies.
    Two of the gun companies who won’t do business with Dick’s, Springfield Armory and Hi-Point, make “tacticool” style firearms that are of no interest to most hunters. The third one, Mossberg, does make traditional guns, especially shotguns, but the company has a history of overreaction to gun control measures.

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    >Springfield
    >Tacticool

    Lmao thanks for letting us know you're clueless. I bet you believe Dick's sudden downturn was just a coincidence and that there's not a massive overlap between sport shooters, hunters, and the NRA.

    , @J.Ross
    Hi-Point isn't tacticool, it's ghetto fabulous. Their carbine is probably the best home defense weapon for people who just want one gun to shoot prowlers or home invaders with (best in industry warranty, pistol rounds less likely to penetrate towards your neighbors than rifle, dirt cheap, magazine loads intuitively into handle rather than into magwell, accommodates accessories). Their Satanically ugly pistol shouldn't exist -- some gun stores view inquiries about it as a possible first step toward committing a crime, since there are breakfast cereals that cost more money.
    Springfield Armory was a huge contractor for WWII, there is a famous image of the banner that hanged when they were making Garands: (paraphrase) make every weapon like your son will carry it.
    Tacticool would be anything "zombie themed," the execreble Inter Ordnance, or any of the numerous AR shops.
    , @MBlanc46
    Better to over-react to gun “control” than to under-react.
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  79. sayless says:
    @Blubb
    I'd never heard of Kitty Genovese as I'm not American, so I googled her.

    Looks like the cops were called twice but didn't show because they assumed domestic violence. They weren't racist; they were sexist.

    The New York Times admitted in 2016 that it had misreported the story about Kitty Genovese’s murder. I think the editor wanted to make working class Christians look bad; All In The Family was yet to be achieved.

    That tale about thirty-eight people witnessing her murder, stumbling around in the parking lot for half an hour, is a fabrication. Kew Gardens Tourist Bureau should sue for damages.

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  80. @JackOH
    AndrewR, back in the 1990s I'd just moved to my current residence. I'm a fair-skinned White guy and was in my late thirties. I walk for exercise early in the morning. Clean T-shirt, maybe a sweater, khakis or something similar, sneaks or Rockports. My walks through White neighborhoods were interrupted by hostile stares, car doors being locked at intersections, people accosting me with seemingly innocent questions intended to smoke out the reason for my being in their neighborhood: "Are you lost?" "Did your car break down?"

    I was annoyed. But, I couldn't deny I was a stranger walking on streets and in neighborhoods where I was unknown.

    What I did was to start wearing caps, and use a walking stick I bought at an outdoor supply store. I hoped to suggest I was a respectable dude clearly walking for the specific purpose of exercise.

    It worked. Sounds like a bullshit story, but within a very short period, I started getting friendly, casual waves from drivers I'd never met.

    I'm not sure there's any big lesson to my story, but I thought it worth passing on.

    People looked at you oddly because of your clothes. Who wears khakis, sweater and Rockports for morning walks? If you had worn running shoes and athletic clothing plus carried a water bottle, no one would have questioned you.

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    Oddly, after viewing too much who displayed them(her)selves in too little, I ran into 3 punks outside the Liquor Store who questioned my attire, alumni sweat pants & T-shirt.
    "Yeah? I been sitting around watching porn half naked & you want me to to dress up to buy another 6 pack? Hey - you win - this is dressed up, not half-naked. Happy?"
    Poor punks - will chase anything with a camel-toe carved between 300 lb thighs.
    "Hey, ya smoke? Stop for a joint?"
    Pull up my T-shirt & show the 20 cm scar of lung surgery.
    "Used too. Took 40 years. Keep it up - your choice."
    Only 1 qualifies to buy. I tell the other 2, on the curb: "No worries - I didn't tell. Used to be undercover RCMP here regularly. Know how we knew?"
    Haircuts?
    Good answer - but the best was shoe shine. 10 months at Depot in Regina, they just gotta shine, even with bell-bottom jeans hip salesmanship.
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  81. Steve. it now seems that Black people are calling the police on White people. Well maybe not since I haven’t seen the movie, I think they’re just kicking White people’s asses without police help.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7137846/

    “Breaking In” A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

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    This clown world order that we live in cannot end soon enough.
    , @Camlost
    “Breaking In” A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    Kinda like the NYT trying to push the Duke Lacrosse "rape" story so hard, despite FBI statistics showing that approximately ZERO black female victims identify their rape attackers as white in an average year.

    @ Steve - you really need to do a piece on the ultimate lib fantasy movie, even worse than "Get Out" - it features (you guessed it) even Texans who try to take over a Brooklyn neighborhood but who are stopped by a rainbow coalition reminiscent of a "United Colors of Benetton" commercial. The rainbow woke coalition of SWPL's and blacks never stops to seize rifles from their downed enemies or pick up ammo, instead they fight back with pistols that they seemingly come up with out of nowhere.

    Oh and, of course, they all know how to shoot accurately and of course the SWPL's and local blacks get on just swimmingly, as we know they are all close friends in places in real life in gentrifying NYC neighborhoods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_z5nyggJs

    When Lucy steps off the subway, she walks into an utter bloodbath on the streets of Brooklyn's Bushwick neighborhood. Texas is attempting to secede from the Union, and militia forces have descended upon New York City to claim it as an East Coast base of operations and negotiation tool. Lucy takes shelter in Stupe's basement, a burly war veteran who reluctantly agrees to help her traverse the treacherous five-block stretch to reach her destination.
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  82. CCZ says:
    @AndrewR
    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is "punching up" at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation's history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.

    Just a sign that Trump has unleashed the KKK, CNN tells us:

    “Journalist: White people terrorizing black people” [when calling police]

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/05/12/ernest-owens-racial-profiling-new-day-weekend-sot.cnn

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  83. @prosa123
    Dick's hasn't sold AR style rifles for many years in the vast majority of its stores. The only ones that carried AR's were the 35 or so Field & Stream stores it operates. Nor has Dick's ever sold handguns. Dick's firearms selection is oriented toward hunters using traditional firearms, who aren't affected by the new policies.
    Two of the gun companies who won't do business with Dick's, Springfield Armory and Hi-Point, make "tacticool" style firearms that are of no interest to most hunters. The third one, Mossberg, does make traditional guns, especially shotguns, but the company has a history of overreaction to gun control measures.

    >Springfield
    >Tacticool

    Lmao thanks for letting us know you’re clueless. I bet you believe Dick’s sudden downturn was just a coincidence and that there’s not a massive overlap between sport shooters, hunters, and the NRA.

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  84. “When White People Call the Police on Black People”

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  85. @Tiny Duck
    Man I cannot wait for demographic change so that whites can feel some pain


    Your descendants will not look like you

    America will soon be a martini of Color

    America will soon be a martini of Color

    And you’ll be the olive.

    Personally, I prefer a Gibson.

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  86. Forbes says:
    @ThreeCranes
    Tiny Duck is indisposed today and asked me to fill in for him.

    Poor black people. They just can't get a break. But, in a paradoxical way, it's their own fault, really. They've been such a model minority for so long and we've come to expect so much from them that we subconsciously hold them to a higher standard than any other group in our society. They are victims of their own success. Any deviation, no matter how trivial, from the stereotype of perfection we've come to associate with them, calls attention to itself and we pounce mercilessly on the transgressor. And for what? For just being a fallible human like the rest of us.

    But they soldier bravely on, taking comfort in their Christ-like, all-encompassing wisdom and compassion for us, their inferiors, with the thought that "This too shall pass".

    Needed some typos, awkward grammar, and slam whites more–but good first approximation…

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  87. CCZ says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Man I cannot wait for demographic change so that whites can feel some pain


    Your descendants will not look like you

    America will soon be a martini of Color

    Stop being a virtue signaling hypocrite. If you can not wait for demographic change, move to Baltimore, right now. It will probably be even better in the summer months.

    “For 2017, Baltimore is now precisely tied with Venezuela, a country suffering from an economic collapse at 57.2 murders per 100,000 residents.” That is some great demographic change and available for you right now!!

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-100-homicides-20180509-story.html

    The Baltimore Sun even offers an interactive “homicide map” so that you can locate the most colorful neighborhoods and track the climb toward a new homicide record.

    https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/

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  88. AndrewR says:
    @europeasant
    Steve. it now seems that Black people are calling the police on White people. Well maybe not since I haven't seen the movie, I think they're just kicking White people's asses without police help.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7137846/

    "Breaking In" A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    https://youtu.be/l2IRWwyOjrU

    This clown world order that we live in cannot end soon enough.

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  89. @Anonymous
    Somehow, the notion that a group which averages 10x the criminality of the generality of our-group Americans arouses 'disproportionate' suspicion - or even commission of crime - somehow is invisible to the NYT.

    “Somehow, the notion that a group which averages 10x the criminality of our-group Americans arouses ‘disproportionate’ suspicion – or even commission of crime -somehow is invisible to the NYT.”

    Ever notice how self-serving the “blacks are victimized by the criminal justice system” trope is?

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  90. @JackOH
    AM, you're a strong commenter here. Do you see any good way of White folks mounting a workable criticism of America's Black society that'll lead to a better America? (BTW-my next-door neighbors are Black, deeply religious and deeply conservative, but not in a way I understand as a belly-feel sort of thing.)

    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society to blacks, the short answer is no. The reason is the same reason that you or I would most likely not accept criticism–no matter how well meaning or accurate–of our own family from a stranger. Humans are just not wired up that way. In other words, race exists and our blood and brains know it even if our Progressive programming doesn’t. And like the fake affectations of Leapfrogging Loyalties™, by which the fake-virtuous signal their superiority even though no one really believes them, demands coming from an outer ring for you to adjust your inner rings just don’t register.

    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society in general, which might be used to improve laws and customs, well, that’s a decent chunk of what Steve writes about, so consult the archives. The short version might be: operate from Citizenism, with some non-increasing consideration of blacks’ disadvantaged original circumstances, but don’t expect equal outcomes.

    I said above the short answer is no, but I can think of two partial exceptions. One is humor and comedy. Everyone likes to laugh, and African-descended people like to laugh even more than icy northerners. Criticism that would be unacceptable if stated programmatically, might work if it is funny. The Tough Crowd guys (Nick DiPaolo especially) used to make a lot of edgy racial cracks that may have gotten taken on board by the audience in some subconscious way.

    The other exception is if you are really friends with someone to the extent that you can discuss racial things candidly, but this is pretty unusual for most people, and it is also not a program, just something that takes place slowly, incrementally and individually.

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    Thanks, AM. I know a few Black Republicans in my mostly working-stiff Democrat area. My relationship is no better than howdy-do. Still, I'm confident to a near certainty they're massively repelled by the "up-selling" of the worst aspects of American Black life for political purposes. At least one of them, a Republican activist, went to the defense of Trump in a local TV interview after the Charlottesville incident.

    My Black next-door neighbors know goddamned well the massive dysfunctionality of Black folks. They're doing what they can to ameliorate things. (Foster parenting and much more.) I'm very confident they know that Black dysfunctionality has little to do with White racism or any of that horseshit we're fed.

    I agree with you (or what I think you're saying) that a White dude who proposes a reasoned rollback of civil rights legislation, affirmative action and the whole mess, is likely to set off alarm bells among even the most upmarket Blacks about an empowerment of a cracker America, where the lowest White dude is thought of as superior to the most accomplished Black.

    Thanks for your comments here.
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  91. AndrewR says:
    @anon
    My karate instructor practices stick fighting techniques. When he travels he carries a cane. At the airport they let him board first because of the cane, people open doors for him, etc. He is extremely fit and the cane is purely a weapon if needed.

    Does he pretend to be crippled?? How does he carry the cane? I’d be suspicious if I saw someone with a cane walking four miles an hour.

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  92. fitzGetty says:

    … the deviant group needs to be taught about Duties and these must be demanded before welfare and other favours are given … rather than the eternal harping on rights, rights, rights …

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  93. fitzGetty says:

    .. so – Starbucks is now to become a latrine base for the deviant group …! …

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  94. This is a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the African American community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skill—unrivaled by any other culture.

    Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the influx of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.

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    Oh, wait! We are poorer as a nation.
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  95. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Reason: Driver, 24-year-old Tabais L. Robinson, was killed, while the passenger, 23-year-old Andre T. Gross, was treated at an area hospital for his injuries suffered when they crashed while they were fleeing from police. Robinson was wanted on a parole retake warrant and on a warrant for violation of probation, while Gross wAas wanted on five warrants from the Calvert County Sheriff's Office.

    Here is a typical 'fatal encounter'.

    I forgot that Fatal Encounters include everyone that interacts and ends up dead. A lot of collateral damage from fleeing felons in cars. Not exactly a micr0agression.

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  96. @Jack Hanson
    When I was a kid in the 90s any pushback against the first strikes of globohomo gayplex in popular culture was met with "all controversy is good advertising!" by the people pushing it.

    Now all it takes is tweet with 50 shares and corporations stumble to grovel before "popular demand". You're kidding yourself if you think its about money. The stance of brands like Yeti and Dick's to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.

    Dick’s to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.

    Dick’s sucks ANYway. From a golf perspective (and I suspect every other), they’re substandard. Just as pricey for balls, clubs and apparel as my pro shop down at Fox Hollow near Tampa without any of the attention from the employyes of which there are few to help in any case. Plus my pro shop fits shafts and clubs to your swing, I’m not aware of this capability at Dicks. Dick’s is dying anyway, but if they want to act like simps in the face of Blacks who spend NOTHING at Dicks, what do I care if they die (Dick’s that is, but Black that act like asswipes, too) ? They’re a bunch of Dicks after all.

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  97. It is always a surprise to read that Americans can call the police about someone “acting suspiciously”, and a squad car will arrive. In Britain, you can report a burglary in progress across the street, and the police will not arrive until hours after the burglars have left. Paradoxically, the British system is called “intelligence-led policing”.

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  98. JackOH says:
    @Almost Missouri
    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society to blacks, the short answer is no. The reason is the same reason that you or I would most likely not accept criticism--no matter how well meaning or accurate--of our own family from a stranger. Humans are just not wired up that way. In other words, race exists and our blood and brains know it even if our Progressive programming doesn't. And like the fake affectations of Leapfrogging Loyalties™, by which the fake-virtuous signal their superiority even though no one really believes them, demands coming from an outer ring for you to adjust your inner rings just don't register.

    If you are asking about whites making a workable criticism of black society in general, which might be used to improve laws and customs, well, that's a decent chunk of what Steve writes about, so consult the archives. The short version might be: operate from Citizenism, with some non-increasing consideration of blacks' disadvantaged original circumstances, but don't expect equal outcomes.

    I said above the short answer is no, but I can think of two partial exceptions. One is humor and comedy. Everyone likes to laugh, and African-descended people like to laugh even more than icy northerners. Criticism that would be unacceptable if stated programmatically, might work if it is funny. The Tough Crowd guys (Nick DiPaolo especially) used to make a lot of edgy racial cracks that may have gotten taken on board by the audience in some subconscious way.

    The other exception is if you are really friends with someone to the extent that you can discuss racial things candidly, but this is pretty unusual for most people, and it is also not a program, just something that takes place slowly, incrementally and individually.

    Thanks, AM. I know a few Black Republicans in my mostly working-stiff Democrat area. My relationship is no better than howdy-do. Still, I’m confident to a near certainty they’re massively repelled by the “up-selling” of the worst aspects of American Black life for political purposes. At least one of them, a Republican activist, went to the defense of Trump in a local TV interview after the Charlottesville incident.

    My Black next-door neighbors know goddamned well the massive dysfunctionality of Black folks. They’re doing what they can to ameliorate things. (Foster parenting and much more.) I’m very confident they know that Black dysfunctionality has little to do with White racism or any of that horseshit we’re fed.

    I agree with you (or what I think you’re saying) that a White dude who proposes a reasoned rollback of civil rights legislation, affirmative action and the whole mess, is likely to set off alarm bells among even the most upmarket Blacks about an empowerment of a cracker America, where the lowest White dude is thought of as superior to the most accomplished Black.

    Thanks for your comments here.

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  99. Camlost says:
    @europeasant
    Steve. it now seems that Black people are calling the police on White people. Well maybe not since I haven't seen the movie, I think they're just kicking White people's asses without police help.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7137846/

    "Breaking In" A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    https://youtu.be/l2IRWwyOjrU

    “Breaking In” A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    Kinda like the NYT trying to push the Duke Lacrosse “rape” story so hard, despite FBI statistics showing that approximately ZERO black female victims identify their rape attackers as white in an average year.

    @ Steve – you really need to do a piece on the ultimate lib fantasy movie, even worse than “Get Out” – it features (you guessed it) even Texans who try to take over a Brooklyn neighborhood but who are stopped by a rainbow coalition reminiscent of a “United Colors of Benetton” commercial. The rainbow woke coalition of SWPL’s and blacks never stops to seize rifles from their downed enemies or pick up ammo, instead they fight back with pistols that they seemingly come up with out of nowhere.

    Oh and, of course, they all know how to shoot accurately and of course the SWPL’s and local blacks get on just swimmingly, as we know they are all close friends in places in real life in gentrifying NYC neighborhoods.

    When Lucy steps off the subway, she walks into an utter bloodbath on the streets of Brooklyn’s Bushwick neighborhood. Texas is attempting to secede from the Union, and militia forces have descended upon New York City to claim it as an East Coast base of operations and negotiation tool. Lucy takes shelter in Stupe’s basement, a burly war veteran who reluctantly agrees to help her traverse the treacherous five-block stretch to reach her destination.

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    But Harvard is battling real-life Nazis.

    NEW YORK POST:

    Harvard University is investigating after a swastika was found on a school bulletin board.

    Officials say the symbol was arranged using push-pins and was discovered by a student Thursday at one of the university’s public health buildings.

    Spokesman Sam Harp said the swastika was two or three inches wide and was removed after the student reported it.

    Harvard’s police department is investigating. The school said it doesn’t know who’s responsible. A statement from Harp says symbols of anti-Semitism and hatred are “anathema to our values” and that Harvard officials were appalled by it.
     
    A push-pin arrangement 2 or 3 inches wide, how could someone take hours making such a huge symbol and not be caught?? Clearly NAZIs are running wild at Harvard and this must be the signal for them to begin burning the Reichstag building.
    , @J.Ross
    >Land-locked and starved of energy resources or economic might, Texas is seceding
    >So of course, their first step is to try to cross the eastern half of the country, to conquer scenic, relevant Hipstergorod
    >But we'll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience
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  100. CCZ says:
    @Camlost
    “Breaking In” A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    Kinda like the NYT trying to push the Duke Lacrosse "rape" story so hard, despite FBI statistics showing that approximately ZERO black female victims identify their rape attackers as white in an average year.

    @ Steve - you really need to do a piece on the ultimate lib fantasy movie, even worse than "Get Out" - it features (you guessed it) even Texans who try to take over a Brooklyn neighborhood but who are stopped by a rainbow coalition reminiscent of a "United Colors of Benetton" commercial. The rainbow woke coalition of SWPL's and blacks never stops to seize rifles from their downed enemies or pick up ammo, instead they fight back with pistols that they seemingly come up with out of nowhere.

    Oh and, of course, they all know how to shoot accurately and of course the SWPL's and local blacks get on just swimmingly, as we know they are all close friends in places in real life in gentrifying NYC neighborhoods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_z5nyggJs

    When Lucy steps off the subway, she walks into an utter bloodbath on the streets of Brooklyn's Bushwick neighborhood. Texas is attempting to secede from the Union, and militia forces have descended upon New York City to claim it as an East Coast base of operations and negotiation tool. Lucy takes shelter in Stupe's basement, a burly war veteran who reluctantly agrees to help her traverse the treacherous five-block stretch to reach her destination.

    But Harvard is battling real-life Nazis.

    NEW YORK POST:

    Harvard University is investigating after a swastika was found on a school bulletin board.

    Officials say the symbol was arranged using push-pins and was discovered by a student Thursday at one of the university’s public health buildings.

    Spokesman Sam Harp said the swastika was two or three inches wide and was removed after the student reported it.

    Harvard’s police department is investigating. The school said it doesn’t know who’s responsible. A statement from Harp says symbols of anti-Semitism and hatred are “anathema to our values” and that Harvard officials were appalled by it.

    A push-pin arrangement 2 or 3 inches wide, how could someone take hours making such a huge symbol and not be caught?? Clearly NAZIs are running wild at Harvard and this must be the signal for them to begin burning the Reichstag building.

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  101. Camlost says:

    A push-pin arrangement 2 or 3 inches wide, how could someone take hours making such a huge symbol and not be caught??

    I’m guessing they’ll check the video and then this story will disappear down the rabbit hole when the Harvard campus police are able to identify the African-American studies major who created the swastika.

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  102. Thirdeye says:
    @Anon
    Apparently the black guy in the stairway she called the cops on wasn’t a student but a friend of the woman sleeping in the common room.

    Black students often have very nasty friends who rob, rape, fight and cause lots of problems.

    Like Temple, USC, university of Chicago, Columbia and thousands of other colleges Yale is surrounded by a crime ridden black neighborhood

    “Apparently…..” based on what? The guy is a student at Yale who was asking her directions to the common room in a dorm he was unfamiliar with. Sure, real suspicious.

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  103. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Camlost
    “Breaking In” A (black)woman fights to protect her family during a (White)home invasion.

    Kinda like the NYT trying to push the Duke Lacrosse "rape" story so hard, despite FBI statistics showing that approximately ZERO black female victims identify their rape attackers as white in an average year.

    @ Steve - you really need to do a piece on the ultimate lib fantasy movie, even worse than "Get Out" - it features (you guessed it) even Texans who try to take over a Brooklyn neighborhood but who are stopped by a rainbow coalition reminiscent of a "United Colors of Benetton" commercial. The rainbow woke coalition of SWPL's and blacks never stops to seize rifles from their downed enemies or pick up ammo, instead they fight back with pistols that they seemingly come up with out of nowhere.

    Oh and, of course, they all know how to shoot accurately and of course the SWPL's and local blacks get on just swimmingly, as we know they are all close friends in places in real life in gentrifying NYC neighborhoods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_z5nyggJs

    When Lucy steps off the subway, she walks into an utter bloodbath on the streets of Brooklyn's Bushwick neighborhood. Texas is attempting to secede from the Union, and militia forces have descended upon New York City to claim it as an East Coast base of operations and negotiation tool. Lucy takes shelter in Stupe's basement, a burly war veteran who reluctantly agrees to help her traverse the treacherous five-block stretch to reach her destination.

    >Land-locked and starved of energy resources or economic might, Texas is seceding
    >So of course, their first step is to try to cross the eastern half of the country, to conquer scenic, relevant Hipstergorod
    >But we’ll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience

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    Exactly!!

    One thing that Northerners (especially NYT liberal types) will never understand about true Southerners/Texans - they hate dense cities. They don't want to live that close to anybody and they don't like cities of the northern style. Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte. etc are called "cities" but their layout their doesn't resemble anything like a northeastern metro - in Atlanta pretty much everyone still lives in a single-family home on cul-de-sac or on streets labelled "no outlet" as we don't want grid-like thoroughfares in our neighborhoods.

    So no group of Trumpian renegade Texans would ever want to occupy territory in some NYC cra*phole like Bushwick in Brooklyn.

    >But we’ll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience

    LOL. Imagine how frightened (and ineffective) hipsters would be at having to handle a pistol. Then imagine how frightened they'd be at seeing the nearby neighborhood blacks holding a pistol, especially when they realize just how poor of an organized fighting force blacks really are.
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  104. J.Ross says: • Website
    @prosa123
    Dick's hasn't sold AR style rifles for many years in the vast majority of its stores. The only ones that carried AR's were the 35 or so Field & Stream stores it operates. Nor has Dick's ever sold handguns. Dick's firearms selection is oriented toward hunters using traditional firearms, who aren't affected by the new policies.
    Two of the gun companies who won't do business with Dick's, Springfield Armory and Hi-Point, make "tacticool" style firearms that are of no interest to most hunters. The third one, Mossberg, does make traditional guns, especially shotguns, but the company has a history of overreaction to gun control measures.

    Hi-Point isn’t tacticool, it’s ghetto fabulous. Their carbine is probably the best home defense weapon for people who just want one gun to shoot prowlers or home invaders with (best in industry warranty, pistol rounds less likely to penetrate towards your neighbors than rifle, dirt cheap, magazine loads intuitively into handle rather than into magwell, accommodates accessories). Their Satanically ugly pistol shouldn’t exist — some gun stores view inquiries about it as a possible first step toward committing a crime, since there are breakfast cereals that cost more money.
    Springfield Armory was a huge contractor for WWII, there is a famous image of the banner that hanged when they were making Garands: (paraphrase) make every weapon like your son will carry it.
    Tacticool would be anything “zombie themed,” the execreble Inter Ordnance, or any of the numerous AR shops.

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    The famous Springfield Armory that made US military rifles for decades is long gone. Today's AR-making Springfield Armory is a private business that merely uses the non-trademarked name.
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  105. @Joe Stalin
    I've seen people openly carrying hunting knives in a belted scabbard in Chicago. But the FUNNIEST rendition of this was when I was on Red line CTA train and there was a white man dressed as a Samurai warrior, complete with a "sword" that was actually a piece of wood. There were two CPD male cops also in the train car and they didn't blink an eye; when the man got off the cops LAUGHED to each other!

    Hey, Miyamoto Musashi fought and won several duels with a wooden sword (bokken). It’ll do.

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  106. EdwardM says:
    @Mr. Anon
    In somewhat related news, Starbucks today announced it's new line of business: operating a national chain of public restrooms:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/11/610337214/starbucks-will-give-people-the-key-to-restroom-regardless-of-purchase-ceo-says

    One can imagine how that will work out in cities like San Francisco, when their stores become overrun with piss-bums and junkies.

    Let's see if if pays off for them

    LOL. Let’s see if a competing chain comes up with the smart business idea to promulgate an explicit policy requiring a purchase to use the facilities. I’m not counting on it.

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  107. Camlost says:
    @J.Ross
    >Land-locked and starved of energy resources or economic might, Texas is seceding
    >So of course, their first step is to try to cross the eastern half of the country, to conquer scenic, relevant Hipstergorod
    >But we'll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience

    Exactly!!

    One thing that Northerners (especially NYT liberal types) will never understand about true Southerners/Texans – they hate dense cities. They don’t want to live that close to anybody and they don’t like cities of the northern style. Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte. etc are called “cities” but their layout their doesn’t resemble anything like a northeastern metro – in Atlanta pretty much everyone still lives in a single-family home on cul-de-sac or on streets labelled “no outlet” as we don’t want grid-like thoroughfares in our neighborhoods.

    So no group of Trumpian renegade Texans would ever want to occupy territory in some NYC cra*phole like Bushwick in Brooklyn.

    >But we’ll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience

    LOL. Imagine how frightened (and ineffective) hipsters would be at having to handle a pistol. Then imagine how frightened they’d be at seeing the nearby neighborhood blacks holding a pistol, especially when they realize just how poor of an organized fighting force blacks really are.

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    Also, Texas is not "land locked".

    http://porthouston.com/

    https://www.nps.gov/pais/index.htm

    http://ontheworldmap.com/usa/state/texas/map-of-texas-coast.jpg
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  108. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Joe Stalin
    I've seen people openly carrying hunting knives in a belted scabbard in Chicago. But the FUNNIEST rendition of this was when I was on Red line CTA train and there was a white man dressed as a Samurai warrior, complete with a "sword" that was actually a piece of wood. There were two CPD male cops also in the train car and they didn't blink an eye; when the man got off the cops LAUGHED to each other!

    Have you forgotten the public transportation ronin of Phoenix?

    (I couldn’t find a good video of this, apparently the original was taken down.)

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  109. Kylie says:
    @Edward Binns
    So the neighbors in 1964 who didn’t call the cops when Kitty Genovese was being raped and murdered were just being appropriately woke to white privilege?

    By 1964, the psychological warfare had already started on (snarky airquotes) "respectable people", perceiving themselves as having a duty to enforce the norms of a "good neighborhood", calling the cops based on behavior they perceive as "suspicious". That was already in the cultural atmosphere, and must have had some influence on the people who heard a commotion and decided to stay out of it.

    For example, what you're supposed to learn from Twelve Angry Men is that before you report suspicious behavior to the police, you should suspect yourself of projecting your own racism/psychological baggage/family issues/craving for drama onto the skulking stranger.

    Perhaps the most memorable moment in that film was when the Bad White juror, exasperated by the needling and nitpicking of the Good White juror, leapt up and shouted "I'm going to kill you", the message being that when you hear people shouting things like that you shouldn't necessarily take it literally, and it's not your business to intervene.

    I’d never heard of Kitty Genovese as I’m not American, so I googled her.

    I'd recommend the recent book on the case by Kevin Cook, who re-examines the parable of the Thirty Eight Witnesses, and brings into light some fascinating elements of the case that weren't as widely publicized at the time.

    The documentary, “The Witness”, is very good.

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  110. @Harry Baldwin
    You are correct: walking with a dog or with a walking stick removes the suspicion that you are up to no good.

    I wlak my two dogs while using a walking stick. Guess I’m home free. Oh, yeah, I’m a white guy of a certain age, too.

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  111. m. says:

    don’t like white stuff? demonstrate yo’ solid-arity, stop using toilet paper

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  112. Logan says:
    @Joe Stalin
    I've seen people openly carrying hunting knives in a belted scabbard in Chicago. But the FUNNIEST rendition of this was when I was on Red line CTA train and there was a white man dressed as a Samurai warrior, complete with a "sword" that was actually a piece of wood. There were two CPD male cops also in the train car and they didn't blink an eye; when the man got off the cops LAUGHED to each other!

    Back in the 70s I carried a Buck folding hunter on my belt every day in high school in Kansas City. Nobody ever questioned it. Despite enduring considerable bullying the first two years, I never once thought of it as a weapon.

    Today they’d probably shut down the entire school if someone showed up with this.

    Also my dad used to bring his 22 to school and leave it in his locker so they could shoot rabbits walking home. Course, that was back in the 20s.

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    They have shut down rural area schools because a kid had an unloaded hunting rifle locked in the trunk (which in many states is a legal way of storing it).
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  113. prosa123 says: • Website
    @J.Ross
    Hi-Point isn't tacticool, it's ghetto fabulous. Their carbine is probably the best home defense weapon for people who just want one gun to shoot prowlers or home invaders with (best in industry warranty, pistol rounds less likely to penetrate towards your neighbors than rifle, dirt cheap, magazine loads intuitively into handle rather than into magwell, accommodates accessories). Their Satanically ugly pistol shouldn't exist -- some gun stores view inquiries about it as a possible first step toward committing a crime, since there are breakfast cereals that cost more money.
    Springfield Armory was a huge contractor for WWII, there is a famous image of the banner that hanged when they were making Garands: (paraphrase) make every weapon like your son will carry it.
    Tacticool would be anything "zombie themed," the execreble Inter Ordnance, or any of the numerous AR shops.

    The famous Springfield Armory that made US military rifles for decades is long gone. Today’s AR-making Springfield Armory is a private business that merely uses the non-trademarked name.

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  114. Thirdeye says:
    @AndrewR
    https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/yale-second-black-student-sarah-braasch/index.html

    CNN is "punching up" at her. Apparently almost nothing is more important at this moment in our nation's history than demonizing a Yale grad student who called the cops on two BLM losers.

    Look at the video taken by the grad student she called the cops on. The only question is whether she’s racist or just an all-around asshole.

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  115. Olorin says:
    @Svigor
    No, they don't write what sells. A race-realist media outlet or content creator can draw a lot of eyeballs and money, if not for the negative externalities (i.e., leftist aggression).

    Mel Gibson did a great job of putting the "what sells" bullshit in its place.

    But if you meant "what sells to the oligarchs who own the paper, and the overseers they hire to carry out their will, and the fed they direct to create the regulatory and legal environment," sure, I'd agree with that.

    So you’re saying that selling yourself to your next Chattering Class employer isn’t “selling”?

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  116. Olorin says:
    @Jack Hanson
    When I was a kid in the 90s any pushback against the first strikes of globohomo gayplex in popular culture was met with "all controversy is good advertising!" by the people pushing it.

    Now all it takes is tweet with 50 shares and corporations stumble to grovel before "popular demand". You're kidding yourself if you think its about money. The stance of brands like Yeti and Dick's to alienate hunters (who spend thousands of dollars to bring home a few hundred dollars of meat once or twice a year) in order to virtue signal is mind blowing. They may literally go out of business over this.

    As I noted to Svigor, “what sells” is often the scribbler’s sale of himself or herself to various Scribble Sluices.

    Some people think that what they read in various forms of “print” has any substance other than a place holder in some larger mapping of influence and careers. That the writers, e.g., actually believe what they write.

    Author Victor will write what he knows those who hired him want him to write, and maybe even has talked himself into believing that the NYT is still some magnificent journal of record for the nation or whatever. That was my point.

    At least since the 1970s, “what sells” in the journo world rarely involves much money. The sale is of oneself. “Welcome to the humiliating world of professional writing!”

    Even more so today with the online media opening up so much more real estate that needs words and images to fill it. The e-celebs and pundits do what they do in the hopes of coming up with the Killer Career App that will bring them…whatever it is they think they are looking for, but usually just yet another job or by-line or whatever. There is so much career/job/title inflation, it’s laughable, which is why a sub to LinkedIn is your best bet for ongoing comedy content.

    As for Yeti and Dick’s…I’m not sure what’s going on there and haven’t had much of a chance to dig. But I wouldn’t put too much store in PR wars these days. Look at how Yeti and Dick’s do at the end of the quarter. And don’t assume that those tweets with 50 shares weren’t, say, internally generated to generate market differentiations.

    On Dick’s–that company’s in a pickle. It’ll never get Cabela’s and Sportsman’s Warehouse’s and Bass Pro’s customers, so all it can do to cover its hyper-expansion bets of the past 4-5 years is try to differentiate itself as the sporting goods store where Hillary voters don’t have to worry about looking at nasty Assault Rifles. While they themselves are larping as Outsiders (as LL Bean is putting it in its new race-mixing/multicult advertising campaign) but can’t quite afford the overpriced crap at REI and don’t want to have to deal with the snooty Portlandesque clerks there.

    2015: ba-ba-boom

    https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/dicks-sporting-goods-to-open-150-stores-by-2018

    2017–ermagerd, slow down!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/05/16/dicks-sporting-goods/101741328/

    https://investorplace.com/2017/08/dicks-sporting-goods-inc-dks-stock-just-became-un-ownable/

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  117. MBlanc46 says:
    @ThreeCranes
    Tiny Duck is indisposed today and asked me to fill in for him.

    Poor black people. They just can't get a break. But, in a paradoxical way, it's their own fault, really. They've been such a model minority for so long and we've come to expect so much from them that we subconsciously hold them to a higher standard than any other group in our society. They are victims of their own success. Any deviation, no matter how trivial, from the stereotype of perfection we've come to associate with them, calls attention to itself and we pounce mercilessly on the transgressor. And for what? For just being a fallible human like the rest of us.

    But they soldier bravely on, taking comfort in their Christ-like, all-encompassing wisdom and compassion for us, their inferiors, with the thought that "This too shall pass".

    Good beat. Easy to dance to. I’ll give it a 7. The real TD doubtless could have gotten an 8 or even a 9 out of it.

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  118. MBlanc46 says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Black people would be better off, like most people would be, by being friendly, polite, and considerate as a default. They’d get better service, be more likely to be hired, less likely to be arrested, etc. In short, their lives would be better. But the media creates a vicious cycle by hyping these man-bites-dog stories of innocent blacks getting the cops called on them, which increases black hostility, which leads to more calls to the cops, and so on.

    I’m sure that this sort of story fuels black hostility. But acting belligerently is characteristic of American blacks (and, from what I’ve seen of blacks in Europe, of blacks generally). Civilized behavior usually results in civilized responses.

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  119. MBlanc46 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Man I cannot wait for demographic change so that whites can feel some pain


    Your descendants will not look like you

    America will soon be a martini of Color

    Better keep an eye out, TD. ThreeCranes is moving in on your territory. A little more polishing of his act, and we won’t need you.

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  120. MBlanc46 says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for the tip. I do sometimes walk in the evening to unwind. And I am stopped by police occasionally. Somehow things never get all Michael Brown, though.

    Things never get all Michael Brown with you because you’re not Michael Brown. Folks who can’t grasp that there are different sorts of people judt can’t understand that.

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  121. MBlanc46 says:
    @prosa123
    Dick's hasn't sold AR style rifles for many years in the vast majority of its stores. The only ones that carried AR's were the 35 or so Field & Stream stores it operates. Nor has Dick's ever sold handguns. Dick's firearms selection is oriented toward hunters using traditional firearms, who aren't affected by the new policies.
    Two of the gun companies who won't do business with Dick's, Springfield Armory and Hi-Point, make "tacticool" style firearms that are of no interest to most hunters. The third one, Mossberg, does make traditional guns, especially shotguns, but the company has a history of overreaction to gun control measures.

    Better to over-react to gun “control” than to under-react.

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  122. MBlanc46 says:
    @julius caesar
    This is a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the African American community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skill—unrivaled by any other culture.

    Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the influx of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.

    Oh, wait! We are poorer as a nation.

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  123. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Logan
    Back in the 70s I carried a Buck folding hunter on my belt every day in high school in Kansas City. Nobody ever questioned it. Despite enduring considerable bullying the first two years, I never once thought of it as a weapon.

    Today they'd probably shut down the entire school if someone showed up with this.

    Also my dad used to bring his 22 to school and leave it in his locker so they could shoot rabbits walking home. Course, that was back in the 20s.

    They have shut down rural area schools because a kid had an unloaded hunting rifle locked in the trunk (which in many states is a legal way of storing it).

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  124. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Edward Binns
    So the neighbors in 1964 who didn’t call the cops when Kitty Genovese was being raped and murdered were just being appropriately woke to white privilege?

    By 1964, the psychological warfare had already started on (snarky airquotes) "respectable people", perceiving themselves as having a duty to enforce the norms of a "good neighborhood", calling the cops based on behavior they perceive as "suspicious". That was already in the cultural atmosphere, and must have had some influence on the people who heard a commotion and decided to stay out of it.

    For example, what you're supposed to learn from Twelve Angry Men is that before you report suspicious behavior to the police, you should suspect yourself of projecting your own racism/psychological baggage/family issues/craving for drama onto the skulking stranger.

    Perhaps the most memorable moment in that film was when the Bad White juror, exasperated by the needling and nitpicking of the Good White juror, leapt up and shouted "I'm going to kill you", the message being that when you hear people shouting things like that you shouldn't necessarily take it literally, and it's not your business to intervene.

    I’d never heard of Kitty Genovese as I’m not American, so I googled her.

    I'd recommend the recent book on the case by Kevin Cook, who re-examines the parable of the Thirty Eight Witnesses, and brings into light some fascinating elements of the case that weren't as widely publicized at the time.

    Oh lovely, another book (snark). I have to stop coming here until I’m halfway through what I’ve already gotten from iSteve commenter recommendations.

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  125. tsotha says:

    So the neighbors in 1964 who didn’t call the cops when Kitty Genovese was being raped and murdered were just being appropriately woke to white privilege?

    The archetypal NYC crime story of the ’70s is a case of media fraud. Her neighbors called the cops.

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  126. Brutus says:

    Haven’t read all but plenty to note:
    Walking sticks: an under-rated very nasty defense method (check what’s in the pull-out handle & foot).
    Brother is a developer – bulldozes to anew. Had a 4plex, only resident is his faggot labourer. Brother asks me to check it out re: Demo sale. November, maybe 9 PM, dark. I do – need ladder to check 2nd floor – double pane? blinds? hardwood?
    Neighbour calls pork. Him smart – pig pen 3 blocks away, doughnut shop 1/2 way in between. Me dumb – apartments of dullards bored during commercial breaks, drooling, staring out windows.
    Am in my vehicle when pork arrives – have walked Downtown East Side often – know the drill. Hit Power Windows Down switch: Officer, can you see my hands?
    Yep.
    Do you wish me to exit my vehicle?
    Nope – stay there, tell me your story – my partner will verify with Labourer & Brother.
    Partner interviews/phones both. Verifies 5 minutes later: All true.
    Labourer & Brother thought this was best comedy in years. Pork had a good doughnut story to tell. I got a fair commission. Newf labourors did the work without suffering harassment for downing 6 packs b4 9 AM on drywaller’s stilts without regulation work-boots. All good. Open, honest, all showed respect & empathy of fellow workers.
    As for the fancy MBA Wharton’s: the above is how you run it real time. The rest is theory. If you can’t run in real time you are cutting, not augmenting, productivity. Don’t excuse with union/non-union, Race A vs B, Gov’t A vs B, Manager Bill vs Barb.
    Hit the reality button & show us how to make $. Agreed – we’re moving 3rd world – the immoral may be the answer, but only after you’ve exhausted resident American youth. My best labour has long come from the Homeless Shelter.

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  127. Brutus says:
    @North Carolina Resident
    People looked at you oddly because of your clothes. Who wears khakis, sweater and Rockports for morning walks? If you had worn running shoes and athletic clothing plus carried a water bottle, no one would have questioned you.

    Oddly, after viewing too much who displayed them(her)selves in too little, I ran into 3 punks outside the Liquor Store who questioned my attire, alumni sweat pants & T-shirt.
    “Yeah? I been sitting around watching porn half naked & you want me to to dress up to buy another 6 pack? Hey – you win – this is dressed up, not half-naked. Happy?”
    Poor punks – will chase anything with a camel-toe carved between 300 lb thighs.
    “Hey, ya smoke? Stop for a joint?”
    Pull up my T-shirt & show the 20 cm scar of lung surgery.
    “Used too. Took 40 years. Keep it up – your choice.”
    Only 1 qualifies to buy. I tell the other 2, on the curb: “No worries – I didn’t tell. Used to be undercover RCMP here regularly. Know how we knew?”
    Haircuts?
    Good answer – but the best was shoe shine. 10 months at Depot in Regina, they just gotta shine, even with bell-bottom jeans hip salesmanship.

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  128. @Camlost
    Exactly!!

    One thing that Northerners (especially NYT liberal types) will never understand about true Southerners/Texans - they hate dense cities. They don't want to live that close to anybody and they don't like cities of the northern style. Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte. etc are called "cities" but their layout their doesn't resemble anything like a northeastern metro - in Atlanta pretty much everyone still lives in a single-family home on cul-de-sac or on streets labelled "no outlet" as we don't want grid-like thoroughfares in our neighborhoods.

    So no group of Trumpian renegade Texans would ever want to occupy territory in some NYC cra*phole like Bushwick in Brooklyn.

    >But we’ll protect our gastropubs and lofts with illegal handguns, which we use with full awareness of their problematic convenience

    LOL. Imagine how frightened (and ineffective) hipsters would be at having to handle a pistol. Then imagine how frightened they'd be at seeing the nearby neighborhood blacks holding a pistol, especially when they realize just how poor of an organized fighting force blacks really are.

    Also, Texas is not “land locked”.

    http://porthouston.com/

    https://www.nps.gov/pais/index.htm

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  129. MaMu1977 says: • Website
    @The King is A Fink

    There is an open source cop shooting national database.
     
    I had a quick Google and nothing is grabbing my attention. Do you have a link you can share? Thanks in advance.
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