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From the New York Times:

A Museum Tackles Myths About Jews and Money

These aren’t even tropes, they are myths. Myths, I tell you!

“Judas Returning the Thirty Pieces of Silver” (1629), by Rembrandt, is the centerpiece of an exhibition called “Jews, Money, Myth” at the Jewish Museum in London.

After all, what better proves that stereotypes about Jews and money are myths than a Jewish Museum lavishly mounting an exhibition on the topic, complete with a Rembrandt lent by a private collector? And who is more notoriously un-clear-eyed than Rembrandt?

By Farah Nayeri
March 20, 2019

LONDON — … an exhibition running through July 7 at the Jewish Museum in London called “Jews, Money, Myth.” The show explores the ways in which Jews have been associated with money over the past 2,000 years. …

The Jewish Museum’s aim is to “debunk a lot of the myths that still circulate today,” said Joanne Rosenthal, the exhibition’s curator, “such as Jews exerting a kind of sinister influence on world events, Jews financing disastrous wars around the world for profit, Jews being naturally drawn to money making.”

These centuries-old “tropes and stereotypes” still circulate on social media and beyond, Ms. Rosenthal added, and the exhibition invites visitors to look in a “calm and levelheaded way at the historical realities.” …

“I’ve never done anything in my life where people have been so scared,” she said in an interview at the museum. “Even the title scares people.” …

The myth of Jews and money can be traced back to the biblical figure of Judas, who betrayed Christ in exchange for some silver coins. In the show’s star attraction, Rembrandt’s “Judas Returning the Thirty Pieces of Silver,” on loan from a private collection, Judas is pictured on his knees, begging a group of priests for forgiveness. …

The video also features campaigners in favor of Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union, who were filmed outside the Houses of Parliament in London recently. One of the protesters holds a placard that equates the Jewish financier George Soros and the Rothschilds with the European Union, saying they run Britain’s “fake news” television channels. …

David Feldman, a professor of history at Birkbeck, University of London who is director of the Pears Institute for the Study of Anti-Semitism (which was consulted for the exhibition), said the left sometimes did not initially identify certain patterns of behavior as racist or anti-Semitic.

Jews are “predominantly a middle-class population in Britain, so they don’t fit the idea of what a victim of racism ought to look like,” Professor Feldman said. “There is an expectation that the victims of racism are people of color, that they’re poor, and that in the case of Europe, either they or their forebears were colonial subjects.”

 
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  1. Vinteuil says:

    David Feldman…said the left sometimes did not initially identify certain patterns of behavior as racist or anti-Semitic.

    Wha-huh?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  2. Myths can be true as well as false. Teutowald, Tours, Joan of Arc, Lepanto, Gallipoli, Pearl Harbor… all mythic.

    This misuse of the word is a red flag for lazy reporting, aka “Journalism”.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  3. David Feldman, a professor of history at Birkbeck, University of London who is director of the Pears Institute for the Study of Anti-Semitism (which was consulted for the exhibition), said the left sometimes did not initially identify certain patterns of behavior as racist or anti-Semitic.

    (emphasis added)

    The truth is that the Labour Party is the only mainstream British political party in which anti-semitism is treated as acceptable behaviour; and if party members previously exercised caution and self-restraint, they ceased to do so when Jeremy Corbyn became leader.

    What on earth is the point of being director of an Institute for the Study of Anti-Semitism if you cannot speak the truth about such matters?

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • LOL: byrresheim
  4. newrouter says:

    Is “anti-Semitism” kinda like “islamophobia”?

  5. Anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Oddly, I stumbled across this on a website a bit earlier, a 2-volume book entitled The Myth of the Medieval Jewish Moneylender, by Jewish academic Julie Mell.

    https://www.palgrave.com/gb/book/9781137397768
    https://www.palgrave.com/gb/book/9783319341859

    Skipping through the video, she seems to have set up a straw man that there is a belief that moneylending was done by most Jews and accounted for most of the economy. She used fragmentary data and massages it, sort of like those Excel spreadsheets in presentations decks shown to venture capital companies by entrepreneurs that show exponential growth to a billion dollars, to prove that only 28 percent of Jews were moneylenders, and only 10 percent or so had a lot of outstanding loans out … so there, proven wrong, fake news!!!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anonymous
  6. ““Judas Returning the Thirty Pieces of Silver” (1629), by Rembrandt, is the centerpiece of an exhibition called “Jews, Money, Myth” at the Jewish Museum in London.”

    Are American tax dollars funding this exhibit? They should be, because the cost is divine. It is
    holy cost.

  7. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/19/704476264/kushner-inc-adds-little-to-the-canon-on-jared-and-ivanka

    ‘Kushner, Inc.’ Adds Little To The Canon On Jared And Ivanka

    … A further wrong note is Ward’s treatment of Judaism. The way Judaism frequently crops up in the context of power brokering, greedy cabals and string-pulling feels, at very best, tone-deaf. Consider this passage about Charles Kushner: “They just knew that Charlie was insatiable, and that money and its trappings were not enough. ‘I want to be the most powerful Jew in America,’ Charlie once told a business associate.” It is, of course, possible to be both greedy and Jewish, but Ward seems to include those things in the same place too often for comfort. Regardless of intent, Ward’s treatment of Judaism is certainly a missed opportunity to ask how Jewish identity actually plays into Jared and Ivanka’s lives. Do they, for instance, believe it comes with ethical obligations?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6826211/Kushners-refused-meet-Joshs-wife-Karlie-Kloss-six-years-wasnt-Jewish.html

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jared-kushner-once-broke-up-with-ivanka-trump-because-she-wasnt-jewish/

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  8. 2,000 years of enduring tropes, stereotypes, memes. That’s one hell of a run!

    What would Benjamin Disraeli’s take on Brexit(tm) be, I wonder (honestly)?

  9. Somewhat OT- Seemingly endless source of laughs and self-owns John Podhoretz has deactivated his twitter account a day after labeling democratic primary candidate Andrew Yang an anti-semite for his views on male circumcision. Jpod later suggested that all jewish schools should be destroyed with neutron bombs upon learning that Talia Levin, also known as “the jew who goes moo”,has been hired to teach a class on reporting on the far right at NYU.
    Strange guy. He will be sorely missed until he reactivates.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Peter Johnson
  10. J.Ross says: • Website

    It’s actually a meta-exhibit on the Streisand Effect.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  11. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    There were non-Jewish lenders but somehow they never had attached to them stereotypes of taking a mile having been given an inch.
    What’s funny is that she’s aiming the wrong way. The supposed Jewish banking monopoly resulting from Christian backwardness is the establishment explanation for certain stereotypes. She unravels a resolved question and offers no better answer.

  12. The Jewish Museum’s aim is to “debunk a lot of the myths that still circulate today,”

    They are displaying art which attests to the same observations about Jews by many independent observers across many different times and locations.

    So where is the “debunking?”

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  13. The allegations of anti-semitism against Jeremy Corbyn is much ado about nothing. Anti-semitism may exist in Labour, especially on the local level, but Corbyn is being unfairly criticized.

    I will tell you what is anti-semitic though, SKY News, Murdoch’s outfit. There should be an investigation of the editor of this clip.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  14. So why don’t people ever get these allegedly arbitrary stereotypes mixed up? I’ve never come across the claim that Mexicans love to read, for example. The Food City supermarket chain in Phoenix, which serves the city’s Hispanic areas, doesn’t carry magazines, not even in Spanish.

  15. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    OT, but something I noticed in the wake of the Omar-Israel controversy; I read the New Yorker pretty regularly, and I saw no mention of it anywhere in that magazine. Google confirmed that it was only mentioned once, in passing. This is a magazine constantly up its own ass about even the slightest whiff of white privilege, let alone white supremacy, and yet this concerted attempt by a bunch of old white people to silence a young woman of color didn’t merit a single article, not one editorial.

    Weirder still, I went to look at woke Twitter, and the usual morons who write for the New Yorker (Doreen St. Felix, Jia Tolentino, Osita Nwanevu), the ones who will stay up for 3 days straight rage tweeting because some black woman got snubbed for Best Supporting Actor…all silent.

    I’m not much for conspiracies, and I doubt David Remnick is so ballsy (or stupid) as to email a directive to his subordinates that they’re not to talk about this…but it is strange, to say the least. I think it is more of a selection thing: a minority who’s made his way through an elite university to a position at the New Yorker, while he may not be brilliant, is well socialized enough to understand what he is and, more importantly, is not allowed to say. He knows which side his bread is buttered on, in other words.

    But that article Steve posted about the Jewish congressman *demanding* an apology from Omar…white privilege, male entitlement, #Mansplaining, all in one nifty anecdote! Surely that cries out for a response…right?

  16. @J.Ross

    It was not a myth per se. During the Middle Ages, it was considered a sin for moneylenders to engage in Usury (the practice of attaching interest to loans). For the most part, Christian moneylenders avoided engaging in Usury.

    Only the Jews engaged in usury, (charging higher and higher interest rates on loans), which in fact was one of the main reasons for their expulsion from Western European nations during the Middle Ages. Their banking monopoly, based largely on usury, the charging of excessive high interest rates, caused their expulsion from Europe.

    Guess she just skips over that unpleasant fact of history as to exactly why the Jews were expelled from most of Western Europe during the Middle Ages.

  17. TheBoom says:
    @advancedatheist

    I’ve never come across the claim that Mexicans love to read, for example.

    Need to read Fred Reed. He is always bringing up that they have bookstores (with books!) in Mexico as proof of the sophistication of the country. Doesn’t take into account that Mexico has one of the lowest rates on the planet of reading books.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  18. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Rufio Panman Fan

    I did not see that guy flaming out before Kurt Eichenwald.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  19. @Hypnotoad666

    And art that was largely created by Gentiles, by the way.

  20. It appears that not all Jewish guys are equally dedicated to fighting the evil tropist myths about Jews and money.
    🙂

  21. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Amazon needs to stop selling Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice, which propagates the old canard!

  22. Mr. Anon says:

    So, the stereotypes tropes myths about the sons of Abraham producing great doctors, scientists, and musicians – those are also false then?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  23. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    Christian backwardness? The Medicis were banking giants and pioneers.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  24. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    Exactly (I thought of inserting a clause, “in a fantasy version of the middle ages where Italy didn’t exist,” but didn’t want an argument about the modern nation of Italy starting in the nineteenth century).

  25. Akin to the apocryphal 100 words Eskimos have for snow, we need a Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis on the 100 words progs have for ‘racist’ beliefs: microaggressions, tropes, stereotypes, myths…

  26. Anonymuse says:

    Wow! The Jews have so much money the tiny Jewish minority in this country can come up with a whole Museum devoted to this in such an expensive city like NYC just like that. Wow!.

  27. vinny says:
    @advancedatheist

    A grocery store without the National Enquirer or US Weekly? Those poor deprived Hispanics. How will they know who Jennifer Anniston is dating this week?!

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  28. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The truth is that the Labour Party is the only mainstream British political party in which anti-semitism is treated as acceptable behaviour

    In a free country, shouldn’t it be more widely acceptable?

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  29. Anon[340] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: I just found out some guy named Andrew Yang is running. He’s just come out against circumcision. Was this even an issue?

    You know, when the Republicans allowed a full slate to run in 2016, this let the toughest guy come out on top. In theory, this effect could duplicated by a wide-open Democratic primary. But they don’t have anyone running who’s not an idiot or a lightweight. None of them are people who worthy of any sort of respect.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
  30. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow! Charles Kushner (and, apparently his son Jared too) didn’t think his shiksa daughter-in-law was good enough for the family. And this is the guy who hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, had their assignation recorded, and then sent the video to his (Kushner’s) sister. On Thanksgiving, I believe.

    Classy people.

  31. @J.Ross

    It’s actually a meta-exhibit on the Streisand Effect.

    Maybe Jews are trying to get people to fear and respect their money without having to actually admit they have the money.

    This is the same approach Israel uses with its nuclear bombs.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  32. @vinny

    The chain supermarkets in Anglophone areas also carry one-off magazines about nutrition, yoga, mindfulness, holistic living and the like, which I don’t recall seeing a few years ago. I’ve gathered that Millennial white women tend to buy them, which at least shows an orientation towards self care that I haven’t noticed in the often fat and weathered Hispanic women I’ve seen.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  33. @advancedatheist

    So why don’t people ever get these allegedly arbitrary stereotypes mixed up?

    So you’ve never heard the one about how Blacks secretly control the international financial system?

  34. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Hypnotoad666

    Exactly, too clever by half, like their Eurovision entry “Push The Button.”

  35. istevefan says:

    Here is Putin joking about Jews and financial problems.

    It was covered in the Forward:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin made a joke invoking the anti-Semitic trope about Jews and money during a visit to Crimea.

    During a visit with local residents and religious leaders on Monday in Crimea, a local Jewish leader made a comment about financial difficulties.

    Putin replied “So the Jews have problems with finances! Only such a thing could happen in Crimea.” He also said to the bearded ad black-hatted Jewish man in Hebrew “todah rabah,” or thank you very much.

    Let’s hope we don’t go to war over this.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  36. Ed says:

    If millions of people spanning thousands of years, living in different countries keep arriving at similar conclusions about a group of people doesn’t that mean something is there? It’s like the Stuyvesant hoopla. Are there school systems where blacks are performing at a top level or at the same level of Asians? If so then there is something to the diversity argument, if not than Stuy is normal and should be left alone.

  37. @Anon

    Republican voters hedged against getting too emotionally invested in any one (establishment) candidate in 2016 because the field was so wide, but there was a huge rift on the Democratic side where there were essentially only two candidates from the beginning. People sucked it up and pretended they had always loved Hillary once she got the nomination — my coworker who had once called her “eeeeeeeevil” later sported one of her this-way-to-the-hospital stickers and a sad fake smile — but a lot of them let their guard down right after the election and unleashed their pent-up resentments. The pattern seems to be “I’ll call you Hitler until I need you to beat a bigger Hitler.”

    Now although the Democrats are driving the clown car full of candidates this time, I’m not sure it will encourage voters to wait it out and pragmatically learn to love the eventual nominee. They still love their savior narratives, the identity politics battles will wear them down too much, and thus far our moral betters haven’t shown any revealed preference for unity in the fight to seize the White House. I’d particularly like to know who’s consulting for and bankrolling Beto. Somebody’s clearly pushing for him to be the next Barack Hussein Christ, but plenty of MSM outlets are happy to publish takedowns of his huwhyte privilege. Once we see a sudden embargo on hit pieces against any particular candidate, we’ll start to know what’s up.

  38. Wilkey says:

    Can’t speak for other parts of the world, but there is something seriously grotesque about the richest, most powerful, most overrepresented group in the Anglosphere, where serious anti-Semitism has been all but nonexistent, complaining about persecution.

    Just a few years ago 4 of the 9 justices on the Canadian Supreme Court were Jewish. The court still has two Jewish justices.

    And of course the United States Supreme Court has been 33% Jewish for just over a decade now (as of two days ago), and would have been 44% Jewish had the GOP Senate not held the line on the Merrick Garland appointment.

    Two of the last three US presidents – Donald Trump and Bill Clinton – have seen their daughters marry into Jewish families. Jewish families with serious criminal records, no less. But no one blinks an eye, and no one ever mentions the criminal records that, if they had married into gentile criminal families, probably would be brought up a bit more.

    But Jews are “oppressed.”

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  39. @Clifford Brown

    Dame Margaret Hodge?

    “Hodge” derives from “Roger”.

  40. @TheBoom

    Doesn’t take into account that Mexico has one of the lowest rates on the planet of reading books.

    But almost the highest for reading comic books.

    No kidding. They’re up there with Japan.

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
  41. @advancedatheist

    I’ve never come across the claim that Mexicans love to read, for example.

    The Little Free Library map site shows four of them in Laredo, and a whopping sixteen in Santa Ana. On the other hand, Mendota, California is close in size to Mendota Heights, Minnesota. The former, 98.65% Hispanic, has none, while the latter sports at least eight.

    https://littlefreelibrary.org/ourmap/
    https://www.homesnacks.net/most-hispanic-cities-in-california-1210751/

    Of course, that’s just the structures. Put up by goo-goo white folks. I have noticed, though, that the few I’ve seen in dicey areas are often empty, or nearly so.

    • Replies: @donut
  42. Stogumber says:

    The association of Jews with money began somewhat earlier, when Deuteronomy 15:6 prophesied to the people of Israel:
    “For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.”
    (King James Version)
    (Interesting also as the perhaps first association of moneylending with power in human history.)

    • Replies: @SonOfStrom
  43. Pericles says:
    @Vinteuil

    “At first we thought X wasn’t racist or anti-semitic, but we were wrong”. Repeat for all X.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  44. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    Those dogs are not barking.

  45. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Only the Jews engaged in usury, (charging higher and higher interest rates on loans)

    From an extremely interesting book which attributes Jewish success in moneylending to the fact that since the 3rd century rabbinical Judaism required all Jews to be literate ( following which Jewish population declined significantly, as achieving literacy was a costly undertaking for what was then a predominantly rural population). It was only with the rise of Islam and its “integrated market” that Jews became an almost-exclusively urban population.

    In chapter 8 we show that this argument is untenable. Based on the historical information and the economic theory we present in earlier chapters, we advance an alternative explanation that is consistent with the salient features that mark the history of the Jews: the Jews in medieval Europe voluntarily entered and later specialized in moneylending because they had the key assets for being successful players in credit markets: capital, networking, literacy and numeracy, and contract-enforcement institutions. . .

    [Chapter 8] . . . The charters and the detailed microdata on Jewish moneylending in medieval and early Renaissance Italian towns highlight some striking facts. First, moneylending was the primary occupation of the Jews. Second, the legal restrictions spelled out in the charters regulated the terms
    at which the Jews could engage in moneylending. The primary goal of these restrictions was not to prohibit Jews from owning land per se or from farming but rather to prevent the Jews from acquiring a lot of land and real estate through their moneylending business. Third, the Jews were not monopolists in this business: credit was also provided by local shopkeepers, traders, notaries, charitable institutions, and even monasteries. Fourth, Jewish moneylenders helped finance local governments through direct loans in case of need, as well as through the taxes they paid. Fifth, thanks to their family and business connections, Jewish moneylenders dwelling in different locations gained significantly from networking and arbitrage opportunities, which made their business very profitable. . .

    In medieval Europe, as today, financial intermediation required highly literate and skilled individuals and provided higher returns than other occupations. European Jews during the Middle Ages and their descendants worldwide have been leaders in this profession for more than a thousand years thanks to their comparative advantage in the four key assets required for success: capital, networking, literacy and numeracy, and contract-enforcement institutions.

    The Chosen Few: How Education Shaped Jewish History, 70-1492 by Zvi Eckstein and Maristella Botticini, winner of the 2012 National Jewish Book Award for scholarly works.

    After all, do people with lots of human capital (Harvard grads) tend to go into agriculture or finance?

  46. @Rufio Panman Fan

    JOURNALISM schools. You mis-understand the acronym. A “J-school” is a journalism school.

    • Agree: Federalist
  47. Ms. Rosenthal doth protest too much, methinks.

  48. @Mr. Anon

    No, because those are DIFFERENT!

  49. @istevefan

    Cossacks burning shetls again! We must intervene for humanitarian purposes.

  50. @Reg Cæsar

    I looked up “Hot Mexican Love Comics” and it turns out to be a compilation of Mexican-themed American comics. And the Serpico comic seems to be from Argentina. But the rest checked out as actually Mexican.

  51. donut says:
    @advancedatheist

    What about libraries ? Are there any branches in or near the Hispanic neighborhoods and if there are I wonder what the ethnic breakdown of their users are . Do they have Spanish language books ?

  52. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    “The myth of Jews and money can be traced back to the biblical figure of Judas”

    but they were all Jews.

  53. donut says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “that the few I’ve seen in dicey areas are often empty, or nearly so” . Thanks that’s a good tip to avoid street crime if one should find one’s self in one of those dicey areas .
    Oops :
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Sex-Drugs-Illegal-Activity-Los-Angeles-Library-System-I-Team-457247783.html

    I suppose it’s only a matter of time until some SJW will address the intrinsic racism of the public libraries and the shelves will be loaded down with unopened books in Arabic , Urdu and Spanish as well as programs , taxpayer funded , to shove the superiority of street shitting culture down our throats .
    Oh God ! I’m so far behind the times I just found this :

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/july/drag-queen-storytime-for-kids-at-boston-public-library-is-not-fiction

    These stories are both from 2017 .

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  54. CAL2 says:

    If you want to say Jews are only concerned about money, Jesus cleansing the temple is probably bigger than the 30 pieces of silver.

    One little nugget while reading A Dawn Like Thunder about the Barbary wars was that all of the Barbary states used Jewish bankers.

  55. Trevor H. says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Those aren’t comic books. They’re dissertations.

  56. @newrouter

    Haha, this is hilarious.

    I’m going to adapt it slightly as,

    “Is antisemitism some kind of Islamophobia?”

  57. @Reg Cæsar

    Like C.S. Lewis calling Christianity a “true myth”.

  58. @James N. Kennett

    The truth is that the Labour Party is the only mainstream British political party in which anti-semitism is treated as acceptable behaviour; and if party members previously exercised caution and self-restraint, they ceased to do so when Jeremy Corbyn became leader.

    So that’s why Corby now spends all of his political capital having anti-Zionists, rather than Zionists, investigated by Labour’s thought police? OK …

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  59. @Anonymous

    … and yet this concerted attempt by a bunch of old white people to silence a young woman of color didn’t merit a single article, not one editorial.

    That’s because Omar picked the wrong group of (((old white people))) to antagonize.

  60. @Wilkey

    Two of the last three US presidents – Donald Trump and Bill Clinton – have seen their daughters marry into Jewish families. Jewish families with serious criminal records, no less.

    That reminds me of how, back in 2015 when Trump’s campaign was just getting under way, (((Eric Draitser))) was predicting that his “mafia connections” in Atlantic City would prevent him from ever winning the nomination. Naturally, Eric was only referring to the Italian mafia.

    You’re right: in retrospect, it is odd how–despite all the wild and even fabricated allegations the media have thrown at Trump ever since the campaign–they have almost never touched on the juicy subject on the Jared Kushner. Very odd …

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @LondonBob
  61. Brutusale says:
    @advancedatheist

    They’re nothing but the dead-tree era version of clickbait.

    Half of the articles in these magazines have a riot grrl esthetic: You go, girl! You’re perfect the way you are!

    The other half: Lose TEN POUNDS in ONE WEEK!!!

    The vacillate between self-empowerment and a bone-deep knowledge of Sailer’s First Law of Female Journalism.

  62. “Jesus Saves”
    but
    “Moses Invests”

  63. That most members of Washington’s leadership elite show up every year at AIPAC’s conference is a slap in the face to the canardy trope that Jews buy too much influence.

  64. @newrouter

    Is “anti-Semitism” kinda like “islamophobia”?

    Yes.

    “Anti-Semitism” as some sort of crime or defect is ridiculous. It’s clever Jewish marketing.

    There is–flat out–*no*, zero, nada, zilch why anyone should be expected to not have negative opinions about any particular person, nor any particular group of people.

    Just taking Anglos, there are\were common negative stereotypes about both–to name a couple of my other ancestry groups–the Irish and the Germans. And, of course, there’s “the wogs start at Calais.” Having an opinion–even a negative one–about another group is hardly some sort of sin, it’s pretty much normal life.

    ~~

    If you think about people personally there’s people you actually gel with. But beyond that–gentiles at least–tend to like “nice guys”. People who are basically open, forthright, friendly and fair-dealing, even if they aren’t your friend, are reasonable to deal with.

    Even beyond the–completely logically–reaction to people who keep themselves tribally, religiously endogamously separate from your own, for reasons of evolutionary history fewer Jews tend to have this “nice guy” profile, and more of them tend to have the … uh … let’s say “not-as-nice-a-guy” profile. People notice this statistically.

    Trying to socially criminalize people for noticing stereotypes and having a completely normal reaction to people around them–be they blacks, Jews, Irish, Germans, French, Anglos, Italians, Russians, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Muslims, whomever–is b.s.

    Trying to get your specific group an extra special you-can’t-notice-our-traits-or-not-love-us thought-crime category is just another sleazy scam.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @jack daniels
  65. TheOldOne says:

    Kibernetika:

    Yes indeed, the world anxiously awaits Clapton’s conclusions on this matter!

  66. Logan says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    For the most part, Christian moneylenders avoided engaging in Usury.

    So, how did they make money, then?

    • Replies: @jim jones
  67. notanon says:

    usury is parasitic

    this has created a vicious cycle that needs to be fixed.

  68. Beefse525 says:

    “And who is more notoriously un-clear-eyed than Rembrandt?”

    And who would be better equipped to present a factual recreation of Judas and his exploits than that legendary chronicler of Jesus’ time, contemporaneous fly-on-the-wall Rembrandt?

  69. @J.Ross

    He’s not flaming out, for better or for worse, he just recognizes a dying medium.

  70. @AnotherDad

    is b.s.

    Of course. What are you gonna do about it, punk?

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  71. Can’t wait for the opening of White Museum franchises in Beijing, Rio, Cairo, Johannesburg, and New Delhi:

    The White Museum’s aim is to “debunk a lot of the myths that still circulate today,” said Jenny Robertson, the exhibition’s curator, “such as Whites exerting a kind of sinister influence on world events, Whites financing disastrous wars around the world for profit, Whites being naturally drawn to money making.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  72. countenance says: • Website

    It’s like this:

    “Symposium On the Stereotypes Regarding Black Americans and Fried Chicken”

    LOCATION: KFC, on Martin Luther King Avenue

  73. @James N. Kennett

    Is it anti-Semitic to think that two-thirds of the 25 largest donors to either US party are of Jewish ethnicity? If so, the authors of this piece must be confronted!
    https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

    Why can’t Jews just say, Yes, we are successful and have money and use it to promote causes we believe in?

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @James N. Kennett
  74. @Desiderius

    We should refuse such people service at the barbecue pit, refuse to let them live in our trailer parks, refuse them admission to the community college, refuse to sell them country music videos, refuse to empty their trash unless they pay us money!

  75. @AnotherDad

    On one hand you are correct that stereotypes are often well-based. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who take stereotypes as universal generalizations, i.e. they think ALL members of group X have trait Y. This might be true or nearly true in some particular case, but it’s usually not true. So we want to protect the ‘innocent’ and give that priority over convicting the ‘guilty.’ Instead of denying that stereotypes have even a statistical correctness, we could make it a point to avoid judging the individual on the basis of statistical generalizations, to the extent that is possible. It is not always possible: I have noticed educated blacks being very annoyed or hurt at the thought that they are seen as potential shoplifters, but if the stereotype is predictively useful to the shopkeeper it is likely to be acted on. Another tactic is to distinguish between group members speaking as individuals and speaking as representatives of their minority, e.g. the ADL or AJC. If the ADL attacks the Christian Coalition for being a hate group, the CC has the right to reference the Jewish priorities of the ADL, though the moribund CC would never do so. Similarly, an individual who speaks QUA member of a particular ethnic group or sexual minority and criticizes other groups cannot complain if a member of the group criticized returns fire.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  76. Presumably thirty pieces of silver was a decent sum of money olden times, and the pound sterling was named in honor of that metal, though at today’s prices a handful of silver would hardly motivate a whistle blower like Judas to give up a job with generous travel expenses, supper allowances,and a seemingly inexhaustible source of fish sandwiches.

    https://www.ebth.com/items/10212351-sterling-silver-jewelry-with-turquoise-kyanite-and-garnet

    However, I must say that I was under the impression that in Europe Jews did have a long history of acting as bankers and financiers, so pleased to here that this is a myth, or even a lie. Give a dog a bad name, and all that.

  77. Svigor says:

    You just can’t listen to Jewish apologia. Jews are so fiercely collectivist (ethnocentric, racist, whichever term you like), and of late so wildly successful at PR (indoctrination, brainwashing, again, whichever term you like) that their rhetoric is just too far from reality. In other words, they’re currently able to get away with telling you absolute whoppers, and no one’s going to call them out on it.

    Like the Spanish Inquisition thing (just a random example, since something reminded me of it yesterday). “Jews were persecuted.” Well, actually, no, they weren’t. They were offered a deal; those who converted to Christianity were welcome to stay in Spain, and those who didn’t were ordered to leave. Some converted and stayed, and some refused, and left. The “Jews” who were persecuted, many years later, were heretic Christians; they converted, placing themselves under Christian law. They’d been living as heretics, illegally, for many years before the crown decided enough was enough. Jews weren’t persecuted, because they’d all left the country, years before.

    We can retcon the modern idea that theocracies are bad, but they were common at the time, and the Jews who converted, and their descendants who lived under Christian law at the time, certainly knew what they were agreeing to. They were criminals who got caught.

  78. @Anonymous

    In a free country, shouldn’t it be more widely acceptable?

    Sometimes a racist political party contests British elections – the last one was the British National Party; before that there was the National Front. They have never won an election that conferred real power. They have never won a single seat in the House of Commons. People won’t vote for them.

    If they were given the chance, people would vote to end mass immigration. But they are not going to vote to persecute their neighbours and work colleagues on grounds of their race.

    Leaders of the mainstream political parties understand this, and they punish racism among their members – usually with suspension, followed by expulsion if the case is proved. They are not merely following their own beliefs – they are making an electoral calculation. Every mainstream party does this, including the Conservatives and UKIP (when Nigel Farage was leader; the party has gone sick since then).

    This is why Jeremy Corbyn’s indifference to anti-semitism is news. If Labour Party members had been sending death threats with racist language to the party’s own black MPs, they would have been quickly expelled. When they did the same things to a Jewish MP, Corbyn did nothing – for over a year.

    You are right that it is a free country, and anyone can start a political party that tolerates anti-semitism. They just won’t get very many votes.

  79. Svigor says:
    @jack daniels

    On one hand you are correct that stereotypes are often well-based. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who take stereotypes as universal generalizations, i.e. they think ALL members of group X have trait Y.

    Citation needed.

  80. Svigor says:
    @jack daniels

    Because their power relies almost entirely on their reputation.

  81. Svigor says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Yeah the shitty crooked Kushner family is Trump’s most obvious dirty connection.

    Then there’s just the general shittiness of Jared Kushner, a middlebrow dork whose only qualification is being born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

    But pretty much only ANTI-SEMITES!!! talk about this. Of course, it’s partly because the Kushners are leftists

  82. @jack daniels

    Why can’t Jews just say, Yes, we are successful and have money and use it to promote causes we believe in?

    Clearly it would be much better if everything was above board. Although there is not much hope of that, if those “causes” include mass immigration from the Third World, and wars against Israel’s enemies.

    In all developed countries, but especially in the USA, political campaigning is expensive and somebody has to pay for it. Cynical people say that America has the best government that money can buy, and the problem is that they are not entirely wrong.

    Most of US government policy can be predicted by looking at who the donors are: wealthy individuals including many Jewish Americans, Big Oil, defense contractors, and Wall Street. The interests of three out of four of these groups converge on promoting endless war in the Middle East.

    The best tactic for wealthy interests is to finance both political parties, so that victory is guaranteed. At the cost of a billion dollars over an electoral cycle, the returns from favorable government decisions could easily amount to a trillion.

  83. “The myth of Jews and money can be traced back to the biblical figure of Judas, who betrayed Christ in exchange for some silver coins. In the show’s star attraction, Rembrandt’s “Judas Returning the Thirty Pieces of Silver,” on loan from a private collection, Judas is pictured on his knees, begging a group of priests for forgiveness. …”

    The false implication here is that Judas is begging forgiveness of “priests” in the Christian sense for his betrayal of Christ or, worse, that he is begging forgiveness of the Jewish priests for what they paid him to do, as though they were somehow themselves regretting their own action. In fact he is showing up the Jewish “chief priests and elders” for the proud and exultant murderers they were (Matthew xxvii. 1-10):

    1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
    2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.
    3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
    5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
    6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
    7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in.
    8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
    9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
    10 And gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord appointed me.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  84. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    and I thought this would be about how they came from the farm with $1 in their pockets

  85. @Pericles

    “At first we thought X wasn’t racist or anti-semitic, but we were wrong”. Repeat for all X.”

    This is the formula with the supermagic XXXtrapower in it. – Worth an international patent.

    Beware though: Once one knows how this trick is done, it loses all attractivity. Your life might become less aroused & exiting in an instant.

  86. @Stogumber

    Right, plenty of it earlier in the OT. Heck, you’re not even out of Genesis and Joseph has already managed to get fished out of a well and made second in command in Egypt over their storehouses (and presumably the treasury too).

  87. jim jones says:
    @Logan

    I presume they still charged interest but called it something else, you know how bankers are.

  88. El Dato says:

    “At first we thought VW wasn’t racist or anti-semitic, but we were wrong”

    In, Germany, uttering EBIT MACHT FREI means you gonna get fired!

    Volkswagen CEO Diess’ future in doubt over Nazi-era blunder

    “[Shareholders were] very upset and shocked by the comments. We had high hopes for him — for his ambitious strategy and focus on costs. But what changed last week is now there are big question marks over his judgment.”

    I wonder who these shocked shareholders might be and what they said about the Diesel cheat device shenanigans.

    Oh well, “Diess” sounds suspiciously like “Hess” anyway.

    How come “Volkswagen” hasn’t been rebranded yet? It sounds dangerously populist. How about “99%wagen” instead?

  89. El Dato says:
    @European-American

    > Whites exerting a kind of sinister influence on world events

    FACT!

    > Whites financing disastrous wars around the world for profit

    FACT!

    > Whites being naturally drawn to money making.

    FAKE! We have the Central Bank to make money, and what they shit out isn’t even money.

  90. El Dato says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Judas was totally a false flag. No Judas, no Christ experience! Smart, that Jesus. Well, he was semitic. Biggest hit since God decided to set the Planck constant to something nonzero.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas

    Like the canonical gospels, the Gospel of Judas portrays the scribes as approaching Judas with the intention of arresting him, and Judas receiving money from them after handing Jesus over to them. But unlike Judas in the canonical gospels, who is portrayed as a villain, and excoriated by Jesus (“Alas for that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. It would be better for that man if he had never been born,” trans. The New English Bible) Mark 14:21; Matthew 26:24, the Judas gospel portrays Judas as a divinely appointed instrument of a grand and predetermined purpose. “In the last days they will curse your ascent to the holy (generation).”

    Elsewhere in the manuscript, Jesus favours Judas above other disciples by saying, “Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom,” and “Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  91. Ibound1 says:

    Jews are “predominantly a middle-class population in Britain, so they don’t fit the idea of what a victim of racism ought to look like,” Professor Feldman said.

    Correct. They are not victims. They are winners. Now, they may be the object of some racism or whatever, as pretty much every human being is on this earth. But they are not victims, they should not see themselves as victims and that is a very good thing. The fact that all kinds of “minorities” (majorities) see themselves as “victims”, is a very bad thing. Life is not perfect, that does not make you a victim.

  92. @El Dato

    Irrelevant. My point is to do with Rembrandt’s painting, which shows a man full of disgust with himself, and asking no pardon of those who are the first among the guilty, but rather of God. Rembrandt mirrors the Biblical account too in showing them rejecting both him and his repentance with indifference and scorn.

  93. @donut

    I was talking about Little Free Libraries, those birdhouse-like things on people’s front lawns. Kind of like the give-and-take shelf at the coffeehouse. They depend on trust.

    • Replies: @res
  94. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    One things for certain, that goy Rembrandt,was no Rothko..
    . or Cosco for that matter

  95. LondonBob says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Corbyn folded quickly to the anti-semitism smear, a campaign run out of the Israeli embassy. As usual such folding has only seen them step up their attacks. Corbyn only applies the same standards to Israel that the new left are only meant to apply to white countries.

  96. LondonBob says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Trump’s Russia connections mostly seem to have been Jewish mafia types coming out of the FSU.

  97. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    im sure the jews were horribly exploitative lenders, but charging interest on loans is the only way to make it sustainable and certain loan applicants have to be charged insane interest rates to make it sustainable. Having access to credit is a good thing and requires the charging of interest(in some cases very high) to be a scalable system.

  98. res says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I wonder if anyone has done a statistical analysis of Little Free Library locations. Looking at that in conjunction with demographics would be interesting.

    Here is the best example I found: https://www.joe.org/joe/2017june/tt3.php
    It gives an idea of what kind of analysis is possible, but is looking at a very different question.

    P.S. I wonder if Audacious Epigone would be up for this.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  99. @res

    My informal, anecdotal survey of the Twin Cities — not far from the movement’s birthplace in Hudson, Wisconsin, and thus the first urban area to take off– shows an inverse relationship between LFLs and chain link fences. In marginal areas, they’re almost always by churches, schools, or agencies rather than private homes.

    They’re also rare in the outer suburbs, for logistical rather than demographic reasons. They work best in those neighborhoods with a small-town feel to them. High-trust areas.

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