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Madison, WI is one of the more famously liberal cities in America. I can’t find how the city of Madison voted in 2012, but Dane County, including Madison’s suburbs and exurbs, voted for Obama 71-27 over Romney.

But even in progressive Madison, where the state government and the University of Wisconsin dominate ideology, the virus of white racism has yet to be wholly eradicated. From the Wisconsin State Journal:

Analysis: Blacks in Madison arrested at more than 10 times rate of whites

16 hours ago • By Nico Savidge | Wisconsin State Journal

A black person in Madison is over 10 times more likely than a white person to be arrested, according to data analyzed by the State Journal that showed African-Americans — who make up about 7 percent of the city’s population — account for 45 percent of arrests.

The vastly different rates of arrest are the latest statistical measure of racial disparities in Wisconsin’s capital city, a place where, data have shown, blacks are much more likely than whites to struggle in school, live in poverty and be arrested and incarcerated.

A State Journal review of two years of Madison Police Department arrests found authorities arrested whites at a rate of 2.6 arrests per 100 white residents annually.

African-Americans, meanwhile, wound up in handcuffs at a rate of 27.6 arrests per 100 residents each year — more than 10 times the rate of whites. Hispanics were also more likely than whites to be arrested. …

Disparity far wider than national average

Madison is far from the only city in which African-Americans make up a disproportionate share of those arrested. The difference here, however, is just how large the gap is between black and white arrest rates.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, African-Americans nationally were arrested at a rate of 7.9 arrests per 100 people in 2012, the most recent year for which data were available, compared to a white rate of 3.4 arrests per 100 people.

The data the State Journal analyzed — which covered every Madison Police Department arrest from 2013 and 2014 — showed the city’s black arrest rate was more than three times higher than it is nationally.

The national numbers are not directly comparable to the rates of arrest the State Journal found, as they do not take into account arrests of people who are of Hispanic origin — a distinction of ethnicity, not of race.

Most Hispanics are instead counted as white in the national data.

In Madison, Hispanics were arrested at an annual rate of 4.3 arrests per 100 residents, meaning they were 1.65 times more likely than whites to be arrested.

A city’s arrest rate can be affected by several factors, such as people who are arrested more than once or residents of other cities who are arrested there.

While Madison’s difference in arrest rates is large, Nelson said it was not particularly surprising given the gaps between white and black Dane County residents showcased in the Race to Equity project’s influential 2013 report.

I blogged about this report in 2013: “Which KKK-infested county is this?

Department data showed that nearly all of the incidents MPD officers respond to are the result of calls from the public for police services, Koval said. Officers self-initiate less than 2 percent of incidents, he said.

Not a lot of proactive policing in this capital of liberalism. Funny how blacks tend to get in trouble more under liberal cultures than under more conservative cultures.

 
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  1. Not true Steve.

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years. The city was 78 percent white in 1990 and is now roughly 58 percent white.

    Yet virtually every homicide/nonfatal shooting has involved a black person over the past few decades.

    Also, in the south, most of the major cities have been completely abandoned by whites (Atlanta, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Jackson, Mississippi; Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans) and rebuilt in the suburbs.

    Even Nashville and Charlotte, two of the whiter big cities in America, have HORRIBLE black homicide rates.

    What major, conservative leaning big city with a white majority and black minority do you refer to as being the outlier for black criminality?

    It’s really simple: without a black population, virtually every American city would be homicide/nonfatal shooting free (save the one or two crimes of passion occurring every year).

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    • Replies: @FozzieT
    According to a USA Today analysis, blacks are three times more likely to be arrested than whites in Indianapolis (conservative, Republican).

    According to Steve's article, blacks are ten times more likely to be arrested than whites in Madison (liberal, Democrat).

    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.

    I think Steve's point was that liberal Democrats are more hypocritical. They say that there are no racial differences and that blacks are just victims, but they lock them up three times more often than conservative Republicans.
    , @jon
    You're misinterpreting his point. He isn't suggesting that blacks commit less crimes in more conservative areas of the country, he is pointing out that the arrest discrepancies are less pronounced in more conservative areas.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years.
     
    That's what happens when the county swallows the city. For awhile, anyway. Miami and Jacksonville did the same.

    When a city is its own county, eg San Francisco, St Louis, Philadelphia, or anywhere in Virginia, things are different.
    , @countenance
    I think you're missing Steve's snark.
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  2. iSteveFan says:

    The national numbers are not directly comparable to the rates of arrest the State Journal found, as they do not take into account arrests of people who are of Hispanic origin — a distinction of ethnicity, not of race.

    Most Hispanics are instead counted as white in the national data.

    Interesting that a media outlet would report this.

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    The national numbers are not directly comparable to the rates of arrest the State Journal found, as they do not take into account arrests of people who are of Hispanic origin — a distinction of ethnicity, not of race.

    Most Hispanics are instead counted as white in the national data.
     
    Interesting that a media outlet would report this.
     
    It makes perfect sense when you account for the fact that it is liberal Madsion, WI that is being reported on.
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  3. I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are “Weenie Whities” and Red-State whites are “Crazy Crackas.”

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line — 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement — how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man’s dick — if he doesn’t pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won’t know about it.

    Of course it doesn’t require a real-life rude awakening — you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

    At any rate, if a state’s white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won’t make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It’d be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed — you’d hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent — like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn’t seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It’s better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks — whatchu pigs gon’ do, huh? I’ll sue for police brutality! That’s when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWOuCfdJYMM

    Madison is full of people like Bernie Sanders.
    , @Sunbeam
    Blue-state whites are “Weenie Whities” and Red-State whites are “Crazy Crackas.”


    As a southerner I don't really think this is the case at all.

    Part of the reason that race relations work better in the South is the fact that both sides actually understand one another. They might dislike each other, even hate in some cases.

    But in the end blacks understood Bull Connor; heck they even understand Lindsay Graham. And they understood Strom Thurmond and Lester Maddox.

    And for what's it worth I think it works in the other direction too.

    But when a black person meets a metrosexual liberal person from San Francisco or Seattle it's like meeting a f*%^ing alien. There just isn't any common ground. And you can rinse and repeat with a town like Madison.

    And much as I would readily admit midwesterners do a whole lot of things better than down south, I don't think police work is one of them. At least when it comes to situations that are just innately chaotic.
    , @Big Bill
    This weenie white versus crazy crackas situation is what got Emmett Till killed. He though he could grab and proposition a young married white woman ("don't worry, I fscked white wimmin before") when her husband was out of town. He found out to his eternal chagrin that crazy crackas don't play that game like weenie whites in Chicago.

    His own mother told him not to act the fool and do stupid shite down south, but he was bound and determined to act the urban fool and impress his homies in Mississippi.

    Emmett wound up as dead as his soldier daddy did for raping white women in Europe after WWII.

    Madison, which had maybe 1-2 murders a year 30 years ago (family/romance gone bad), has had a spate of black home invasion/gang rape/murders in the last few years.
    , @Eric
    NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of "white boy" vs "Crazy white boy".
    "White boys" are mocked, "Crazy White Boys" are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.
    , @IA
    Good link. Thanks.
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  4. @JohnnyWalker123
    I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are "Weenie Whities" and Red-State whites are "Crazy Crackas."

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line -- 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

     


    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement -- how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man's dick -- if he doesn't pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won't know about it.

     


    Of course it doesn't require a real-life rude awakening -- you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

     


    At any rate, if a state's white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won't make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It'd be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

     


    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed -- you'd hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent -- like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

     


    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn't seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It's better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks -- whatchu pigs gon' do, huh? I'll sue for police brutality! That's when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7g6vhbpDg

    Madison is full of people like Bernie Sanders.

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  5. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Clearly, Blacks like having fun (with guns) ten times as much as Whites do.

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  6. FozzieT says:
    @Paul Kersey
    Not true Steve.

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years. The city was 78 percent white in 1990 and is now roughly 58 percent white.

    Yet virtually every homicide/nonfatal shooting has involved a black person over the past few decades.

    Also, in the south, most of the major cities have been completely abandoned by whites (Atlanta, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Jackson, Mississippi; Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans) and rebuilt in the suburbs.

    Even Nashville and Charlotte, two of the whiter big cities in America, have HORRIBLE black homicide rates.

    What major, conservative leaning big city with a white majority and black minority do you refer to as being the outlier for black criminality?

    It's really simple: without a black population, virtually every American city would be homicide/nonfatal shooting free (save the one or two crimes of passion occurring every year).

    According to a USA Today analysis, blacks are three times more likely to be arrested than whites in Indianapolis (conservative, Republican).

    According to Steve’s article, blacks are ten times more likely to be arrested than whites in Madison (liberal, Democrat).

    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.

    I think Steve’s point was that liberal Democrats are more hypocritical. They say that there are no racial differences and that blacks are just victims, but they lock them up three times more often than conservative Republicans.

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    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.
     
    I'm pretty sure there are people who argue to the contrary.
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  7. jon says:
    @Paul Kersey
    Not true Steve.

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years. The city was 78 percent white in 1990 and is now roughly 58 percent white.

    Yet virtually every homicide/nonfatal shooting has involved a black person over the past few decades.

    Also, in the south, most of the major cities have been completely abandoned by whites (Atlanta, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Jackson, Mississippi; Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans) and rebuilt in the suburbs.

    Even Nashville and Charlotte, two of the whiter big cities in America, have HORRIBLE black homicide rates.

    What major, conservative leaning big city with a white majority and black minority do you refer to as being the outlier for black criminality?

    It's really simple: without a black population, virtually every American city would be homicide/nonfatal shooting free (save the one or two crimes of passion occurring every year).

    You’re misinterpreting his point. He isn’t suggesting that blacks commit less crimes in more conservative areas of the country, he is pointing out that the arrest discrepancies are less pronounced in more conservative areas.

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    You’re misinterpreting his point. He isn’t suggesting that blacks commit less crimes in more conservative areas of the country, he is pointing out that the arrest discrepancies are less pronounced in more conservative areas.
     
    But he is saying that. He says:

    Funny how blacks tend to get in trouble more under liberal cultures than under more conservative cultures.
     
    He is saying that conservative culture and/or policies make for "better-behaved blacks". In order for that to be true, it has to be the case that blacks commit more crimes per capita in liberal states than they do in conservative states. If that's not the case, and the lower black-white incarceration/arrest disparity in conservative states is driven instead by higher general incarceration rates in these states, and higher Red State white criminality, than his point collapses.
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  8. matt says:

    Wisconsin also arrests fewer white people, both because they arrest fewer people in general and probably also because Wisconsin whites commit fewer crimes than, say, Oklahoman whites.

    More conservative states arrest more people in general, and their whites probably tend to have a higher crime rates than whites in more liberal states. Hence they have lower white-black incarceration/arrest disparities.

    Interestingly, this suggests that if we lowered incarceration as many now want to do, this would increase the white/black incarceration disparity, even though it would reduce the absolute number of blacks (and whites) incarcerated.

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    Right.
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  9. In Madison, Hispanics were arrested at an annual rate of 4.3 arrests per 100 residents, meaning they were 1.65 times more likely than whites to be arrested.

    Stupidity or dishonesty? Either way, it’s wrong. It works out to 0.65 time more likely, or 1.65 times as likely.

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    Stupidity or dishonesty? Either way, it’s wrong. It works out to 0.65 time more likely, or 1.65 times as likely.

     

    Neither. Just bad English. Even those with PhDs say things like "five times higher" or "five times more" when they mean "five times as".

    But I think "five times more than…" sounds like it's "six times as…"

    Perhaps Derb might chime in?
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  10. jon says:
    @iSteveFan

    The national numbers are not directly comparable to the rates of arrest the State Journal found, as they do not take into account arrests of people who are of Hispanic origin — a distinction of ethnicity, not of race.

    Most Hispanics are instead counted as white in the national data.
     
    Interesting that a media outlet would report this.

    The national numbers are not directly comparable to the rates of arrest the State Journal found, as they do not take into account arrests of people who are of Hispanic origin — a distinction of ethnicity, not of race.

    Most Hispanics are instead counted as white in the national data.

    Interesting that a media outlet would report this.

    It makes perfect sense when you account for the fact that it is liberal Madsion, WI that is being reported on.

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  11. @Paul Kersey
    Not true Steve.

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years. The city was 78 percent white in 1990 and is now roughly 58 percent white.

    Yet virtually every homicide/nonfatal shooting has involved a black person over the past few decades.

    Also, in the south, most of the major cities have been completely abandoned by whites (Atlanta, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Jackson, Mississippi; Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans) and rebuilt in the suburbs.

    Even Nashville and Charlotte, two of the whiter big cities in America, have HORRIBLE black homicide rates.

    What major, conservative leaning big city with a white majority and black minority do you refer to as being the outlier for black criminality?

    It's really simple: without a black population, virtually every American city would be homicide/nonfatal shooting free (save the one or two crimes of passion occurring every year).

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years.

    That’s what happens when the county swallows the city. For awhile, anyway. Miami and Jacksonville did the same.

    When a city is its own county, eg San Francisco, St Louis, Philadelphia, or anywhere in Virginia, things are different.

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  12. Sunbeam says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are "Weenie Whities" and Red-State whites are "Crazy Crackas."

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line -- 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

     


    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement -- how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man's dick -- if he doesn't pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won't know about it.

     


    Of course it doesn't require a real-life rude awakening -- you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

     


    At any rate, if a state's white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won't make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It'd be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

     


    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed -- you'd hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent -- like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

     


    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn't seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It's better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks -- whatchu pigs gon' do, huh? I'll sue for police brutality! That's when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7g6vhbpDg

    Blue-state whites are “Weenie Whities” and Red-State whites are “Crazy Crackas.”

    As a southerner I don’t really think this is the case at all.

    Part of the reason that race relations work better in the South is the fact that both sides actually understand one another. They might dislike each other, even hate in some cases.

    But in the end blacks understood Bull Connor; heck they even understand Lindsay Graham. And they understood Strom Thurmond and Lester Maddox.

    And for what’s it worth I think it works in the other direction too.

    But when a black person meets a metrosexual liberal person from San Francisco or Seattle it’s like meeting a f*%^ing alien. There just isn’t any common ground. And you can rinse and repeat with a town like Madison.

    And much as I would readily admit midwesterners do a whole lot of things better than down south, I don’t think police work is one of them. At least when it comes to situations that are just innately chaotic.

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  13. @matt
    Wisconsin also arrests fewer white people, both because they arrest fewer people in general and probably also because Wisconsin whites commit fewer crimes than, say, Oklahoman whites.

    More conservative states arrest more people in general, and their whites probably tend to have a higher crime rates than whites in more liberal states. Hence they have lower white-black incarceration/arrest disparities.

    Interestingly, this suggests that if we lowered incarceration as many now want to do, this would increase the white/black incarceration disparity, even though it would reduce the absolute number of blacks (and whites) incarcerated.

    Right.

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    So is there any evidence that the lower white-black incarceration disparities in conservative states is driven by conservative economic/social policies, rather than just higher white incarceration rates?
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  14. …Dane County, including Madison’s suburbs and exurbs, voted for Obama 71-27 over Romney.

    College counties weren’t always such sore thumbs. 70 years ago, when voters had to be 21, and students of age required to vote at home rather than at school, those counties tended to look just like their neighbors on the electoral map. Dane voted for FDR, but so did the rest of the state. The counties around Cornell and Dartmouth did not. I forget which way Michigan went.

    Now, with voting at 18 and done in the dorm, college towns and counties are little Laputas.

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  15. matt says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Right.

    So is there any evidence that the lower white-black incarceration disparities in conservative states is driven by conservative economic/social policies, rather than just higher white incarceration rates?

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    Though I suppose higher white incarceration/arrest rates would at least partially reflect a particular conservative social policy: namely, incarcerating and arresting more people. So, in that sense, (a particular) conservative policy is responsible for the lower black-white incarceration/arrest disparity in conservative states. I don't think that's the sense you have in mind, though.
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  16. matt says:
    @matt
    So is there any evidence that the lower white-black incarceration disparities in conservative states is driven by conservative economic/social policies, rather than just higher white incarceration rates?

    Though I suppose higher white incarceration/arrest rates would at least partially reflect a particular conservative social policy: namely, incarcerating and arresting more people. So, in that sense, (a particular) conservative policy is responsible for the lower black-white incarceration/arrest disparity in conservative states. I don’t think that’s the sense you have in mind, though.

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  17. rienzi says:

    “A city’s arrest rate can be affected by several factors, such as people who are arrested more than once or residents of other cities who are arrested there.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, some groups may commit a lot more crime than others. This ought to be glaringly self-evident to anyone with an IQ above that of a sponge.

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  18. matt says:
    @jon
    You're misinterpreting his point. He isn't suggesting that blacks commit less crimes in more conservative areas of the country, he is pointing out that the arrest discrepancies are less pronounced in more conservative areas.

    You’re misinterpreting his point. He isn’t suggesting that blacks commit less crimes in more conservative areas of the country, he is pointing out that the arrest discrepancies are less pronounced in more conservative areas.

    But he is saying that. He says:

    Funny how blacks tend to get in trouble more under liberal cultures than under more conservative cultures.

    He is saying that conservative culture and/or policies make for “better-behaved blacks”. In order for that to be true, it has to be the case that blacks commit more crimes per capita in liberal states than they do in conservative states. If that’s not the case, and the lower black-white incarceration/arrest disparity in conservative states is driven instead by higher general incarceration rates in these states, and higher Red State white criminality, than his point collapses.

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    @Paul Kersey
    Not true Steve.

    Indianapolis has been governed by Republicans for 39 of the past 47 years. The city was 78 percent white in 1990 and is now roughly 58 percent white.

    Yet virtually every homicide/nonfatal shooting has involved a black person over the past few decades.

    Also, in the south, most of the major cities have been completely abandoned by whites (Atlanta, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Jackson, Mississippi; Memphis, Birmingham, New Orleans) and rebuilt in the suburbs.

    Even Nashville and Charlotte, two of the whiter big cities in America, have HORRIBLE black homicide rates.

    What major, conservative leaning big city with a white majority and black minority do you refer to as being the outlier for black criminality?

    It's really simple: without a black population, virtually every American city would be homicide/nonfatal shooting free (save the one or two crimes of passion occurring every year).

    I think you’re missing Steve’s snark.

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  20. Big Bill says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are "Weenie Whities" and Red-State whites are "Crazy Crackas."

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line -- 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

     


    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement -- how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man's dick -- if he doesn't pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won't know about it.

     


    Of course it doesn't require a real-life rude awakening -- you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

     


    At any rate, if a state's white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won't make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It'd be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

     


    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed -- you'd hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent -- like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

     


    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn't seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It's better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks -- whatchu pigs gon' do, huh? I'll sue for police brutality! That's when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7g6vhbpDg

    This weenie white versus crazy crackas situation is what got Emmett Till killed. He though he could grab and proposition a young married white woman (“don’t worry, I fscked white wimmin before”) when her husband was out of town. He found out to his eternal chagrin that crazy crackas don’t play that game like weenie whites in Chicago.

    His own mother told him not to act the fool and do stupid shite down south, but he was bound and determined to act the urban fool and impress his homies in Mississippi.

    Emmett wound up as dead as his soldier daddy did for raping white women in Europe after WWII.

    Madison, which had maybe 1-2 murders a year 30 years ago (family/romance gone bad), has had a spate of black home invasion/gang rape/murders in the last few years.

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    Wow, wouldn't you know it, my 'proper' education taught me all about Emmett Till's victimisation at the hands of Evil White Nazis but not a single thing about his dad. Apple falling close to the tree, apparently.

    Jesus, Wikipedia has become so slanted as to be completely useless.

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  21. Jefferson says:

    “Madison, WI is one of the more famously liberal cities in America. I can’t find how the city of Madison voted in 2012, but Dane County, including Madison’s suburbs and exurbs, voted for Obama 71-27 over Romney.

    But even in progressive Madison, where the state government and the University of Wisconsin dominate ideology, the virus of white racism has yet to be wholly eradicated. From the Wisconsin State Journal:”

    27 percent of voters in Dane County voted for Mitt Romney. So that is the reason why anti-Black racism still persists in Madison. It will not be completely eradicated until 100 percent of the voters in Dane County are voting for The Democratic Party in presidential elections.

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  22. Criminals are “X” times more likely to be arrested than non criminals.

    You know the “black” movement won’t be happy until there are only 13% of the prison population
    black…..and even then they won’t be happy.

    To their way of thinking, any black prison population over 13% PROVES “racism”.

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    Disparate impact really is one of the more pernicious doctrines of our age.
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  23. Forbes says:

    A black person in Madison is over 10 times more likely than a white person to be arrested, according to data analyzed by the State Journal that showed African-Americans — who make up about 7 percent of the city’s population — account for 45 percent of arrests.

    Are reporters and newspaper editors actually so clueless to report the likelihood of arrest this way? (Don’t answer.)

    Only if arrests were made randomly would anyone imagine (assume) that arrest rates would reflect racial proportions. Since arrests are precipitated by commission of a crime, it would behoove an inquiring mind to look at the relationship between the cause (crime) and the effect (arrest). Crime reports indicate the racial ID of the perpetrator (when known), and would be a better indicator of the likelihood of arrest by race.

    Such silliness certainly contributes to the scourge of the low information voter by misleading the public with frivolous information.

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  24. Part of this phenomenon is due to the fact there are a lot more rough-&-tumble, blue collar Whites in places like Alabama, West Virginia, Montana, Texas, etc. Hipsters scrawling homoerotic haikus in their moleskins while slurping six-dollar coffees, don’t get up to a lot of criminality. Its their sole good quality.

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  25. … but immigrating large numbers of blacks will reduce crime, reduce drug use, and increase prosperity. wow.

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  26. @ben tillman

    In Madison, Hispanics were arrested at an annual rate of 4.3 arrests per 100 residents, meaning they were 1.65 times more likely than whites to be arrested.
     
    Stupidity or dishonesty? Either way, it's wrong. It works out to 0.65 time more likely, or 1.65 times as likely.

    Stupidity or dishonesty? Either way, it’s wrong. It works out to 0.65 time more likely, or 1.65 times as likely.

    Neither. Just bad English. Even those with PhDs say things like “five times higher” or “five times more” when they mean “five times as”.

    But I think “five times more than…” sounds like it’s “six times as…”

    Perhaps Derb might chime in?

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  27. Eric says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are "Weenie Whities" and Red-State whites are "Crazy Crackas."

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line -- 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

     


    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement -- how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man's dick -- if he doesn't pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won't know about it.

     


    Of course it doesn't require a real-life rude awakening -- you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

     


    At any rate, if a state's white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won't make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It'd be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

     


    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed -- you'd hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent -- like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

     


    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn't seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It's better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks -- whatchu pigs gon' do, huh? I'll sue for police brutality! That's when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7g6vhbpDg

    NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of “white boy” vs “Crazy white boy”.
    “White boys” are mocked, “Crazy White Boys” are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.

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    "NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of “white boy” vs “Crazy white boy”.
    “White boys” are mocked, “Crazy White Boys” are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always."

    In the eyes of New Jersey Blacks, do most Italian men fall under the category of crazy White boys or just regular White boys?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    “White boys” are mocked, “Crazy White Boys” are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.
     
    Ellis Cose wrote that he and his friends loved to torment white boys. The one exception they made was for Italians, who were unpredictable. Probably by design.
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  28. Dirk Dagger says: • Website
    @FozzieT
    According to a USA Today analysis, blacks are three times more likely to be arrested than whites in Indianapolis (conservative, Republican).

    According to Steve's article, blacks are ten times more likely to be arrested than whites in Madison (liberal, Democrat).

    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.

    I think Steve's point was that liberal Democrats are more hypocritical. They say that there are no racial differences and that blacks are just victims, but they lock them up three times more often than conservative Republicans.

    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.

    I’m pretty sure there are people who argue to the contrary.

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    Good point. Let me amend my comment to clarify. "No one who regularly reads Steve's blog....etc."
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  29. Wisconsin’s whites have been less criminal than most for quite some time. When Arlington House published a book of the 50 safest cities in America (over 50,000) back in the 70s, all but two of the ten safest were in upstate New York and Wisconsin. A lot of this is the Germanness of the place.

    But when Wisconsin Germans do go bad, boy, are they ever good at it: look at Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.

    For what it’s worth, Chris and the rest of the Farleys are from Madison.

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    "Wisconsin’s whites have been less criminal than most for quite some time. When Arlington House published a book of the 50 safest cities in America (over 50,000) back in the 70s, all but two of the ten safest were in upstate New York and Wisconsin. A lot of this is the Germanness of the place.

    But when Wisconsin Germans do go bad, boy, are they ever good at it: look at Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.

    For what it’s worth, Chris and the rest of the Farleys are from Madison."

    Texas a high percentage of Germans, but I wonder if they are underrepresented among White trash Texas biker gangs and it's mostly the Scotch Irish Texans who get into that lifestyle.
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  30. IA says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I mentioned this before, but the blogger Agnostic had a good post on this.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-blacks-scared-straight-by-law-or-by.html

    Blue-state whites are "Weenie Whities" and Red-State whites are "Crazy Crackas."

    there are three regions where blacks appear to be kept more in line -- 1) the Deep South plus the lower Appalachians, especially Tennessee and West Virginia; 2) the northern part of the Mountain West; and 3) the parts of the Northeast that have more rural areas, especially Maine.

     


    Compared to other white Americans, those of Celtic ancestry are more clannish and warlike, more honor-driven and less law-regarding. The hell with being tattle-tales to law enforcement -- how about we just settle this little thing ourselves, like men. Picking up that vibe from whites at the grassroots level must make black criminals think twice about stepping on the wrong man's dick -- if he doesn't pursue you to within an inch of his own life just to bring about your death, then his kinfolk may just round up a party and track you down like an animal, unencumbered in whatever they do by legal regulations since the authorities won't know about it.

     


    Of course it doesn't require a real-life rude awakening -- you can just size up whether some pale-skin is a weenie whitie or a crazy cracka.

     


    At any rate, if a state's white population is made up mostly of Culture of Law groups, then at the grassroots level whites appear wimpy in the eyes of blacks. Should they be victimized, they won't make waves, but rather call on the law enforcement system to administer justice. Black criminals in those states must sense that most of the local white targets are wimps, strengthening their resolve and making them more careless. It'd be like taking candy from a baby. But eventually the law does catch up to them, and these states see higher rates of black imprisonment.

     


    Also, I doubt that most of those low black imprisonment rates in Celtic regions is due to whites forming kangaroo courts and lynch mobs after a crime has already been committed -- you'd hear about that at least some of the time. Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent -- like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

     


    English Puritans and Socialist Scandinavians may provide a greater sense of stability and structure, but they may wind up relying too much on authority, while neglecting their involvement in everyday self-policing. And in an ethnically mixed-up country like ours, that approach doesn't seem to be intimidating enough to black criminals. It's better suited to shaming would-be criminals of Norwegian etc. ancestry before they even try it.

    But blacks look at the law enforcement system as just a bunch of overpaid punks -- whatchu pigs gon' do, huh? I'll sue for police brutality! That's when you need more rambunctious whites to curb bad black behavior at the grassroots level. Sometimes it takes barbarians to deter a savage.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7g6vhbpDg

    Good link. Thanks.

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  31. Langley says:

    I believe that La Griffe du Lion has noted this phenomena:

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm

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    From the article:

    "An adult black man is seven times more likely than his white counterpart to reside behind bars. Paradoxically, the largest disparities are found in political domains controlled by liberals -- the leaders in the struggle for racial justice. By examining how criminal behavior is distributed within the races, the paradox is resolved showing it to be an unintended consequence of liberal benevolence and goodwill."
    , @jeremiahjohnbalaya
    that's the first thing I thought of when I saw Steve's title.
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  32. Langley says:
    @Langley
    I believe that La Griffe du Lion has noted this phenomena:


    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm

    From the article:

    “An adult black man is seven times more likely than his white counterpart to reside behind bars. Paradoxically, the largest disparities are found in political domains controlled by liberals — the leaders in the struggle for racial justice. By examining how criminal behavior is distributed within the races, the paradox is resolved showing it to be an unintended consequence of liberal benevolence and goodwill.”

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  33. Jefferson says:
    @Eric
    NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of "white boy" vs "Crazy white boy".
    "White boys" are mocked, "Crazy White Boys" are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.

    “NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of “white boy” vs “Crazy white boy”.
    “White boys” are mocked, “Crazy White Boys” are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.”

    In the eyes of New Jersey Blacks, do most Italian men fall under the category of crazy White boys or just regular White boys?

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  34. Jefferson says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Wisconsin's whites have been less criminal than most for quite some time. When Arlington House published a book of the 50 safest cities in America (over 50,000) back in the 70s, all but two of the ten safest were in upstate New York and Wisconsin. A lot of this is the Germanness of the place.

    But when Wisconsin Germans do go bad, boy, are they ever good at it: look at Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.

    For what it's worth, Chris and the rest of the Farleys are from Madison.

    “Wisconsin’s whites have been less criminal than most for quite some time. When Arlington House published a book of the 50 safest cities in America (over 50,000) back in the 70s, all but two of the ten safest were in upstate New York and Wisconsin. A lot of this is the Germanness of the place.

    But when Wisconsin Germans do go bad, boy, are they ever good at it: look at Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.

    For what it’s worth, Chris and the rest of the Farleys are from Madison.”

    Texas a high percentage of Germans, but I wonder if they are underrepresented among White trash Texas biker gangs and it’s mostly the Scotch Irish Texans who get into that lifestyle.

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  35. @Big Bill
    This weenie white versus crazy crackas situation is what got Emmett Till killed. He though he could grab and proposition a young married white woman ("don't worry, I fscked white wimmin before") when her husband was out of town. He found out to his eternal chagrin that crazy crackas don't play that game like weenie whites in Chicago.

    His own mother told him not to act the fool and do stupid shite down south, but he was bound and determined to act the urban fool and impress his homies in Mississippi.

    Emmett wound up as dead as his soldier daddy did for raping white women in Europe after WWII.

    Madison, which had maybe 1-2 murders a year 30 years ago (family/romance gone bad), has had a spate of black home invasion/gang rape/murders in the last few years.

    Wow, wouldn’t you know it, my ‘proper’ education taught me all about Emmett Till’s victimisation at the hands of Evil White Nazis but not a single thing about his dad. Apple falling close to the tree, apparently.

    Jesus, Wikipedia has become so slanted as to be completely useless.

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  36. @Eric
    NJ resident here. The big distinction blacks in Newark, Patterson, etc make among white men is that of "white boy" vs "Crazy white boy".
    "White boys" are mocked, "Crazy White Boys" are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.

    “White boys” are mocked, “Crazy White Boys” are spoken of with a hint of fear.
    Be the latter.
    Always.

    Ellis Cose wrote that he and his friends loved to torment white boys. The one exception they made was for Italians, who were unpredictable. Probably by design.

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  37. Polynikes says:

    I live in Madison. Part of this is due to nice and scattered low income housing that mixes blacks in among the young, educated affluent whites. That results in more police calls than lumping them into a ghetto.

    Secondly, yes, they are hypocritical. The mayor just removed “philosopher’ s park” from the Capitol square. PP was a small area on a busy street where a bunch of stone benches and tables were placed. About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses. It stuck out like a sore thumb. The ultra liberal mayor just removed all the stone structures citing….yep, crime. No mention of race….heh.

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    About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses
     
    I was going to say I wouldn't want to piss off Teddywedger's, but it looks like they've gone and pissed off their own under the new management.

    (How Yelp classifies a pasty palace as "vegan" is beyond me.)
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Liberals are for every SJW movement, but Not in Their Backyard . I think most of their support for these causes is to rub conservatives noses in some shit.
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  38. @Langley
    I believe that La Griffe du Lion has noted this phenomena:


    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm

    that’s the first thing I thought of when I saw Steve’s title.

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  39. Svigor says:

    Rather the difference in white attitude seems to serve more as a deterrent — like, I better check myself around here, these white folks be CRAZY.

    Prison can work as a revolving door, getting shot, not so much.

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  40. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The disparity in Madison has much to do with the self-selection by which blacks wound up there. Liberal policies are to blame. They are a magnet for those sufficiently tempted by generous entitlements to brave terrible winters.

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  41. @Polynikes
    I live in Madison. Part of this is due to nice and scattered low income housing that mixes blacks in among the young, educated affluent whites. That results in more police calls than lumping them into a ghetto.

    Secondly, yes, they are hypocritical. The mayor just removed "philosopher' s park" from the Capitol square. PP was a small area on a busy street where a bunch of stone benches and tables were placed. About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses. It stuck out like a sore thumb. The ultra liberal mayor just removed all the stone structures citing....yep, crime. No mention of race....heh.

    About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses

    I was going to say I wouldn’t want to piss off Teddywedger’s, but it looks like they’ve gone and pissed off their own under the new management.

    (How Yelp classifies a pasty palace as “vegan” is beyond me.)

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    That's the exact spot although I assume it is unrelated to new ownership. Complaints had been filling the mayor's office for a while.
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  42. Hunsdon says:
    @boogerbently
    Criminals are "X" times more likely to be arrested than non criminals.

    You know the "black" movement won't be happy until there are only 13% of the prison population
    black.....and even then they won't be happy.

    To their way of thinking, any black prison population over 13% PROVES "racism".

    Disparate impact really is one of the more pernicious doctrines of our age.

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  43. @Polynikes
    I live in Madison. Part of this is due to nice and scattered low income housing that mixes blacks in among the young, educated affluent whites. That results in more police calls than lumping them into a ghetto.

    Secondly, yes, they are hypocritical. The mayor just removed "philosopher' s park" from the Capitol square. PP was a small area on a busy street where a bunch of stone benches and tables were placed. About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses. It stuck out like a sore thumb. The ultra liberal mayor just removed all the stone structures citing....yep, crime. No mention of race....heh.

    Liberals are for every SJW movement, but Not in Their Backyard . I think most of their support for these causes is to rub conservatives noses in some shit.

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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The thing to know about Madison is that there are virtually no non-ghetto blacks. Maybe 1-2% of black population, no more.

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  45. FozzieT says:
    @Dirk Dagger

    No one is arguing that blacks are not responsible for crime way out of proportion to their percent of the population.
     
    I'm pretty sure there are people who argue to the contrary.

    Good point. Let me amend my comment to clarify. “No one who regularly reads Steve’s blog….etc.”

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  46. Lloyd1927 says:

    There’s an underground railroad, so to speak, from Mississippi to Chicago to Milwaukee to Madison. This means that the worst blacks are placed in the same cities with the best whites. Achievement gap anyone? High crime rate? Many children of the black underclass don’t stay in the Madison school system but move back and forth during the school year between Chicago, Mississippi, etc. How can their “racist” teachers teach kids who aren’t there much of the time? No one dares to ask. The downfall of German socialist Milwaukee was due to the tremendous number of poor quality blacks who crowded into the city during the 1950s and 1960s. The socialist mayor, Frank Zeidler, tried to help the blacks, but that only destroyed his political support. More information:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zeidler

    http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/21/the_last_socialist_mayor

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/05/black-welfare-in-american-heartland.html

    https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-55842338/from-mississippi-to-milwaukee-a-case-study-of-the

    The group’s migration to Northern cities in the 1920s and 1930s attracted the attention of social scientists like Robert Weaver, Kenneth Clark, and E.
    Franklin Frazier who emphasized the negative impact in those northern communities. They depicted the black “peasant,” fleeing the South, as iii
    prepared for northern urban life, and inflaming racial tensions. This “urban adjustment” model was the prevailing framework of analysis in the works
    of these pioneering social scientists.

    http://www.milwaukeehistory.net/education/milwaukee-timeline/

    In 1910, there were only about 980 African-Americans in Milwaukee. By 1945, the black population had grown to 13,000. In the late 1920s and early
    1930s there was a vibrant black community in the city. Although there was discrimination from the larger white community, tension between the races was minimal.

    By the 1960s conditions had grown much worse. Milwaukee’s north side, home to the majority of African-Americans, was a neglected ghetto with alarming
    poverty rates. Mayor Zeidler tried to implement numerous strategies, such as clearing slums and creating new public housing, to remedy the problems
    facing blacks.

    The mayor was unable to make much headway during his administrations between 1948 and 1960 and was constantly confronted with the barrier of racism.
    In fact, Zeidler’s opponents used racism against him in the elections of 1952 and 1956, spreading lies that he had been advertising in southern states
    to bring blacks to Milwaukee.

    The city appeared tolerant of the black community until the black population began to show a dramatic increase after World War II, from 13,000 in 1945
    to 21,772 in 1950, rising further to 62,458 in 1960 and almost doubling to 105,088 ten years later.

    http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2013/01/22/the-promised-land/

    It is not uncommon for blacks in Milwaukee to name the city from which their ancestors left for Milwaukee and the year in which they did so. After one family member moved and was settled, brothers, sisters, or cousins often followed. Small town networks were re-created. Milwaukee legislator Polly Williams, for instance, came to Milwaukee in 1946 from Belzoni, Mississippi, a Delta town an hour’s drive from Coahoma County. Monroe Swan, her cousin who also went on to serve in the Wisconsin legislature, arrived about the same time. Both families were lured by the jobs in Milwaukee’s factories, foundries, tanneries, and meatpacking plants.

    Mississippi was the most common state of origin for Milwaukee blacks during the height of the Great Migration. As late as 1960, roughly half of all African Americans in Milwaukee had been born in the South, and only about a third had been born in Wisconsin.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/09/which-state-has-best-blacks.html

    http://host.madison.com/lifestyles/a-place-in-black-history/article_5dff1324-d8ea-5241-ab81-d2b76756f9ce.html

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  47. Polynikes says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    About 2 dozen blacks would hang out there everyday which inevitably pissed off passerbyers and local businesses
     
    I was going to say I wouldn't want to piss off Teddywedger's, but it looks like they've gone and pissed off their own under the new management.

    (How Yelp classifies a pasty palace as "vegan" is beyond me.)

    That’s the exact spot although I assume it is unrelated to new ownership. Complaints had been filling the mayor’s office for a while.

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  48. Lloyd1927 says:

    Major troublemakers in Madison are the Young, Gifted (Dumb) and Black idiots:

    http://www.isthmus.com/news/cover-story/young-gifted-black/

    Liberals fight to please them. Note that the young white guy pictured is a quadroon (son of a mulatto judge and his white wife) with an identity crisis.

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