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Nothing Ever Changes

So I’m out of touch for two days; then I look at the papers and find … nothing has changed. From the top story in the NYT early Wednesday morning:

Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson
By FRANCES ROBLES and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT AUG. 19, 2014

FERGUSON, Mo. — As a county grand jury prepared to hear evidence on Wednesday in the shooting death of a black teenager by a white police officer that touched off 10 days of unrest here, witnesses have given investigators sharply conflicting accounts of the killing.

Some of the accounts seem to agree on how the fatal altercation initially unfolded: with a struggle between the officer, Darren Wilson, and the teenager, Michael Brown. Officer Wilson was inside his patrol car at the time, while Mr. Brown, who was unarmed, was leaning in through an open window.

Many witnesses also agreed on what happened next: Officer Wilson’s firearm went off inside the car, Mr. Brown ran away, the officer got out of his car and began firing toward Mr. Brown, and then Mr. Brown stopped, turned around and faced the officer.

Even leaving aside Brown’s preceding crimes in the convenience store, how is this supposed to be one of the Defining Events of Our Time, a Searing Indictment of the National Crisis of the White Racist Power Structure Murdering Black Babies, rather than just another local police blotter item of crazy ass behavior in the ‘hood? I don’t care what race you are, if you are in a dispute with a cop and thrust your head into his police car and then his gun goes off hurting and no do doubt scaring him, it’s highly like additional bad things are going to happen.

This is not to defend everything the cop did, just to say that let’s step back and look at the big picture. Respectable Opinion had decided that this case is the one that they want to exploit for their profound ideological ends. And yet, as with so many of these Moral Lessons for Whites from Tawana Brawley on down, it turns out to be just another piece a crap case.

Partly this is inherent in the dominant High-Low coalition against the Middle. The Democrats need to hold their coalition together by ginning up hatred of Evil White Men. They can use their dominance of the media to put out the bassline message but they need Incidents, ideally involving white men murdering innocent black babies. But, that just doesn’t happen much, our entire system is obsessed with punishing it when it does happen, and the Obamas and Holders and the press are dependent upon potential examples being brought forward to their attention by mobs exacting pogroms upon convenience stores for snitching. And mobs are notable bad at careful evaluation of the evidence.

Hence, the media’s war on whites keeps turning into one fiasco after another.

It’s time to ask tough questions about the ideological power structure in the modern world. If the power players in charge of molding our worldviews keep humiliating themselves and only preserve their facades of competence by changing the subjects — e.g., Eric Holder now wants to investigate an incident involving the Ferguson PD five years ago — or claiming that more investigation is needed so they don’t have to admit their mistakes — hey, Eric, how’s your investigation into bringing double jeopardy charges against George Zimmerman coming after only 13 months — maybe we a different worldview and a different establishment.

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  1. Luke Lea
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    Take a couple of days off and next thing you know you’re as frustrated as everybody else is. For journalism’s sake better to keep your nose to the grindstone. :)

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  2. I can sense your anger, Steve.

    Better, finer intellects are indubitably insulted by what passes for popular discourse in this circus of a country.

    The whole thing is a sick joke.

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  3. joey joe joe
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    You should seriously look into this. A few weeks ago a big (black) guy was put in a strangle hold and died in New York City (for selling cigarettes). There have been cases of police beating an imbalanced guy in California, and the subway police shooting a handcuffed guy in Seattle. Genuinely disturbing stuff.

    Yet the nation repeatedly goes crazy for cases that don’t even appear that tough: the bad guy really was bad.

    Why are the crappy cases elevated to riot status? Why not the real problem cases?

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  4. If the media are so interested in hearing all sides, why such one-sided coverage of Ukraine crisis where Russia is always the bad guy?

    Selective Rashomon.

    When Rush to blame it on ‘racism’ fails, shrug shoulder and go into Rashomon mode.

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  5. peterike2
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    Hence, the media’s war on whites keeps turning into one fiasco after another.

    It doesn’t though. I mean sure, here in reality it’s all obvious agit-prop theater. But go check Facebook, Twitter, etc. and see how many whites — by the tens of millions — are even now fervently aping the narrative. It works. It does what it’s supposed to do. And this will not change.

    If someone discovered a cell phone video showing St. Michael charging the officer while flames shot out of his eyes, it would do nothing — nothing — to change minds. And I mean white minds.

    Sorry blogosphere, but the Cathedral power structure is vastly more powerful; effectively, infinitely more powerful. These kinds of ritual Punch-and-Judy shows simply re-affirm in highly emotional ways the thoughts that were long ago molded into the hive mind.

    The white middle is finished.

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  6. syon
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    Needless to say, TNC sees this incident as confirming his solution to the Black dilemma in American History:

    TA-NEHISI COATES
    Reparations for Ferguson
    Total police control over black bodies has echoes in American history.
    NATIONAL / AUG 18, 2014

    My family lives in Harlem. My wife did not call the police. An older head told the angry boys that they needed to take it somewhere else, which they did. Black people are not above calling the police—but often we do so fully understanding that we are introducing an element that is unaccountable to us. We introduce the police into our communities, the way you might introduce a predator into the food chain. This is not the singular, special fault of the police. The police are but the tip of the sword wielded by American society itself. Something bigger than Stand Your Ground, the drug war, mass incarceration or any other policy is haunting us. And as long we cower from it, the events of this week are as certain as math. The question is not “if,” but “when.”

    There has always been another way.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/ta-nehisi-coates/

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  7. “High-Low coalition against the Middle”

    Essentially Jewish-black coalition against whites.

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  8. syon
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    Steve:”I don’t care what race you are, if you are in a dispute with a cop and thrust your head into his police car and then his gun goes off hurting and no do doubt scaring him, it’s highly like additional bad things are going to happen.”

    Here’s a cop who agrees with you:

    Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-cop-if-you-dont-want-to-get-hurt-dont-challenge-me/

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  9. syon
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    “High-Low coalition against the Middle”

    Essentially Jewish-black coalition against whites.

    MMM, a bit early, but this one has my vote for stupidest post of the day.

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  10. C. Van Carter
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    Was that essay Google translated into English from the Ebonics?

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  11. “…and then his gun goes off hurting and no doubt scaring him.”

    What does this mean? Are saying the cop shot himself with his own gun? Does “his” refer to Brown? Did Brown fire a shot? This is confused. I’d say rest up fully, then start writing again.

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  12. Shawn
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    The elite media never experiences accountability for their media hoaxes.

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  13. bb753
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    TNC should be grateful he’s a US citizen. Where else in the world would he be a lionized pet commentator, instead of a short-order cook? It doesn’t take a highIQ or any education to play the part of the professional angry black man!

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  14. asdfsdfd
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    maybe we a different worldview and a different establishment.

    The operative word in you statement is “we”. Who is this “we”?

    The “we” of white america is gone, the rule of law foisted upon the world by WASPs is slowly being eroded. Statements referencing “vigorous prosecution” are made by elected officials who should in a normal country by impartial in regards to individual civil matters.

    A third world population makes a third world nation. With that comes a third world worldview, a third world establishment, and don’t forget that good old righteous and upstanding police force that may have first world equipment, but acts and is trained as a third world militia.

    Ferguson is America.

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  15. syon
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    “Was that essay Google translated into English from the Ebonics?”

    It’s always important to remember that TNC was basically hired in an act of racial condescension by the ATLANTIC:

    “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

    Got to love how upfront Bennet is; he’s basically telling the world that TNC is not qualified for his current position, but, hey, it doesn’t matter. It’s just so cute to watch him grow and learn.

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  16. @joey joe joe
    “Why are the crappy cases elevated to riot status? Why not the real problem cases?”

    It goes back to Dalrymple’s quote about the purpose of propaganda being to humiliate rather than misinform. The facts of that New York case do not need distortion, spin, or lies to the extent that the Ferguson case does. Therefore, it is of limited humiliation value to those who would disseminate it to us.

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    Benet’s reaction to Coates’s idiocy is a great illustration of how the reality-evading liberal mindset works.

    I notice in the first of what will surely be a series of extraordinary intellectual essays on Ferguson, Coates blames white people for blacks raping and robbing and murdering so much: “The policy of America has been, for most of its history, white supremacy. The high rates of violence in black neighborhoods do not exist outside of these facts—they evidence them.”

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  18. Tom Regan
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    The pushing of falsehoods works because the audience wants to believe its true. What’s the alternative? Realizing that just about all the social and cultural messages you’ve been sent by the news media, entertainment, advertising, teachers, peers and parents is bullshit? I’m sure many in the Steveosphere have taken that hard path, but its socially isolating and, these days, career threatening. Most people, particularly women, would sooner state a belief in the Easter Bunny and elves than lose their circle of nice friends in nice clothes, so they tailor their opinions accordingly.
    And, just as depressingly, people outside the country want to believe the narrative of wicked, fascistic America. They lap up any hint that America _ while policing and lecturing the world on human rights _ can be such egregious supressors of those very human rights at home. If anything, the bien pensants outside the US are even more eager to accept the media coverage than are the vacuous hordes inside the country.

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  19. Rotten
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    Look at the Big Big Picture:

    There hadnt been a major Black Riot since LA in 1992. A black man is president, putting some pressure on the community not to embarrass itself. Public sympathies for the black community causes are at a relative low.

    People are/were wondering in the Black civil rights era is over. Without an active WEB Duboise movement or figure disrupting society, there is no room for a powerful ‘moderate’ Booker T Washington figure for white people to give power to (on the theory that he can calm the rioting).

    Rahm Emmanel is/was trying to bulldoze the Blacks out of Chicago, and replace them with Hondurans. He’s doing this because it worked in Compton, CA. A young Illinois state Sen Obama assisted in this policy before Rahm became major. Mike Bloomberg is trying to harass Blacks out of NYC, not just with stop n frisk, but by banning their sodas, smokes, food ingredients, and hangouts.

    So, now there’s a riot, and the stakes are huge. The whole Black Civil Rights movement’s power or lack thereof is getting exposed.

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  20. fnn
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    We need a Joe McCarthy to hold a Congressional investigation to see how and why the MSM elevated this particular shooting to “riot status.” But that’s why McCarthy was destroyed- to make sure there would never be another one.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird#Directorate_for_Plans

    This was reflected in Hoover’s description of the OPC as “Wisner’s gang of weirdos”. Hoover began having investigations done into Wisner’s people. He found that some of them had been active in left-wing politics in the 1930s. This information was passed to Senator Joseph McCarthy who started making attacks on members of the OPC. Hoover also gave McCarthy details of an affair that Frank Wisner had with Princess Caradja in Romania during the war. Hoover claimed that Caradja was a Soviet agent.[12]

    McCarthy, as part of his campaign against government, began accusing other senior members of the CIA as being security risks. McCarthy claimed that the CIA was a “sinkhole of communists”, and said he would root out a hundred of them. One of his first targets was Cord Meyer, who was still working for Operation Mockingbird. In August 1953, Richard Helms, Wisner’s deputy at the OPC, told Meyer that McCarthy had accused him of being a communist. The Federal Bureau of Investigation said it was unwilling to give Meyer “security clearance,” without referring to any evidence against him. Allen W. Dulles and Frank Wisner both came to his defense and refused to permit an FBI interrogation of Meyer.[13]

    With the network in authority in the CIA threatened, Wisner was directed to unleash Mockingbird on McCarthy. Drew Pearson, Joe Alsop, Jack Anderson, Walter Lippmann and Ed Murrow all engaged in intensely negative coverage of McCarthy. According to Jack Anderson, his political reputation was permanently damaged by the press coverage orchestrated by Wisner.[14]

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  21. Art Deco
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    “His current position” requires him to produce copy, which he does, presumably on deadline.

    The thing is, he has for years been the odd-man out at The Atlantic. Stacy McCain has offered that Megan McArdle, being a graduate of Penn and the University of Chicago, was their concession to diversity in that the place was among political journalists a notorious snob shop and generally limited their stable of commentators to Harvard graduates. (Coates had two years at which state school I cannot recall).

    Coates is not a renaissance man and the rap on him is that he’s obsessed with his own blackness to the exclusion of just about anything else.

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  22. Steve, you might check out a recent book, Obama’s Enforcer: Eric Holder’s Justice Department, by John Fund and Hans von Spakovsky.

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  23. Location, Location, Location

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  24. DPG
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    Off-topic but there’s a pretty remarkable article on this politics of SNL’s cast and writers. I found this illuminating (I seem to recall iSteve commenters speculating that writer Jim Downey leans a little conservative and prevents SNL from going full Bill Maher).

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/snl-political-secrets-revealed-hillarys-726324

    “Sanz: I don’t think the show itself has ever let its freak flag fly in the last 20 years. Lorne’s very concerned with being neutral so he wants to make fun of everyone. … He doesn’t want the show to be this liberal bash rag. He may be a little more conservative than he lets on. … And you also have Jim Downey, who’s basically the Karl Rove of SNL. He’s always writing the right wing sketches, and honestly I think a lot of times they’re out of tune with the audience. … I think Lorne sometimes leans too much on Downey and not enough on guys like Seth. Basically in the last couple of years, it’s been Seth going up against Downey to set the show’s tone on politics, and I think we could definitely have been harder on the right. They deserved it, and we dropped the ball as far as getting them.

    Downey: My mission is to try to write a funny piece using politics as the subject matter, and so I go with what I think is the most interesting, potentially funny idea that no one else is talking about.

    Sanz: The week that Nancy Pelosi was made speaker, the only thing that we could come up with at the time was, because she was from San Francisco, to make her a dominatrix. I thought that was really, really cheap. … It was pretty frustrating. And it continues to be frustrating. I don’t really like watching the political scenes that much anymore because they’re not written in the writers’ and actors’ tone. They’re written like Downey wants to put this message out. And I think that’s kind of shitty.

    Downey: I used to write this stuff with Al Franken when we started out; I was a standard-issue Harvard graduate commie, and Al was like a Democratic Party stalwart. I had contempt for the partisan stuff. And I became more conservative over the years, to the point where I’m now a conservative Democrat, which means in Hollywood terms I’m a McCarthyite, I suppose. But I have to say, and even Franken agrees with me — I’ve talked to him about this — that the last couple seasons of the show were the only two in the show’s history where we were totally like every other comedy show: basically, an arm of the Hollywood Democratic establishment. [Jon] Stewart was more nuanced. We just stopped doing anything which could even be misinterpreted as a criticism of Obama.”

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  25. Bill
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    [Bennet, Atlantic editor, discussing TNC not knowing who St Augustine is:]
    I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!

    Got to love how upfront Bennet is; he’s basically telling the world that TNC is not qualified for his current position, but, hey, it doesn’t matter. It’s just so cute to watch him grow and learn.

    Actually, he’s telling the world that he knows enough writers who don’t know who St Augustine is that he is competent to opine on the typical reaction of such a writer on hearing his name. That’s pretty disturbing, given who he is.

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  26. IBC
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    To quiet down the rioting in Ferguson sooner, the police should have set up one of those giant jumbotron televisions with a special impact-resistant screen to show episodes of the TV series Alaska State Troopers. Most episodes feature at least one scene where white (and not infrequently black) police officers draw their guns on white citizens and occasionally force them to get down on the ground with their hands up. This might have had a cathartic effect on the black protesters/rioters by showing them that whites can be questioned and roughed-up or locked-up as well. (Not that I’m implying anything about the Ferguson case). Watching the police rescue baby moose would also have had a soothing effect on the crowd. In the show, white police officers occasionally even help guard Eskimo villagers against a marauding polar bear or two. The more reflective members of the Ferguson crowd might even draw a subliminal lesson from this…

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  27. Bill
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    they need Incidents, ideally involving white men murdering innocent black babies. But, that just doesn’t happen much

    On the other hand, black women murder black babies all the time. Often, those black women are being supervised by white social workers. Whom everyone hates. They could blow up some of those incidents into two minute hates against the evil, racist child protective services industry. This would be much more interesting than efforts to blame white teachers for black students’ failure to learn.

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  28. Whiskey
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    Yes the White Middle is finished. Martin Luther King provided a far more acceptable substitute for Jesus, without the latter’s inconvenient demands for sexual chastity: Christians tending towards celibacy than anything else.

    The White officer has an orbital fracture, and is seriously injured. He was beaten by the “gentle giant.”

    But it does not matter. Most White people have their lives given meaning by worshiping the Angelic “Good” race and demonizing the evil one: White guys. (White women are almost NEVER depicted as racists rather as “hot” women fighting for justice.)

    The system is self-sustaining. It can go on until it collapses from total resource exhaustion as the White middle is exterminated. White people NEED a religion. The religion of SWPL/Diversity/Multiculturalism and BRA (credit Paul Kersey of SBDL.com) works world-wide for White people. You find it in Sweden and in Finland and Ireland and Greece and Italy and really anywhere there is a susbstantial consumer economy fueled by female consumption.

    So, no there is no future for ordinary White guys in this country and their female peers would not have it any other way.

    The point of the Ferguson media coverage is something that has escaped Steve:

    * To hammer home that EVEN White cops in the lawful exercise of their SWORN DUTY to uphold the Law are legally unable to defend themselves as they WILL BE PUNISHED FOR IT!

    White people: you have no legal right to defend yourself from Black criminals and indeed WILL BE PUNISHED if you resist or defend yourself

    *To hammer home that Black people DO NOT NEED TO OBEY THE LAW. Not ever. Not certainly while Whites are in any police officer or court officer function.

    Message: Black people — you are a legally enshrined aristocracy, a noble class, like the Edo Period Samurai, able to punish (White) peasants as you please. The Law does not apply to you.

    This is why Black upper class people endorse the Ferguson stuff — they want this privilege.

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    “MMM, a bit early, but this one has my vote for stupidest post of the day.”

    What’s stupid about it?

    1) We have prominent Rabbi from St. Louis saying the peaceful demonstrations in Ferguson are being disrupted and turned violent by Whites.

    2) We have 90-year old Holocaust Survivor going through a photo-op as she’s arrested in Ferguson.

    3) We have prominent Jew after Jew in Salon, Slate, the Atlantic, AP, you name it, a) calling the cop a racist scumbag, b) giving out his address and personal details about him, c) saying this confirms the racist underpinnings of White America, etc., etc.

    Stupid?

    That’s one thing blacks and Jews seem to have quite in common, their near-absolute refusal to call out their own when they’re being obscene and/or insane, which happens regularly with both groups in their perceptions and attitudes towards Whites.

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  30. Chess Fan
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    I commented on Steve’s previous post, but I think maybe it was missed because it was comment 2xx at that point. I’m not spamming and I won’t post this again after this comment. There is a GoFundMe page for officer Darren Wilson. You can give money under your name or anonymously. This is a way for people who support Wilson, police in general, or just the rule of law, to make their support known. Of course, give to Steve too.

    http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

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  31. Is modern civilization suffering from the Panda Syndrome?

    Many gripe that high IQ guys are not having enough kids. It just so happens that many high IQ guys are dorky, geeky, socially inept, and awkward. (I know, I know, there are studies that say otherwise, but from my personal observation in high school and college, it’s true enough that plenty of high IQ are shmorks).

    Our society does place a premium on high IQ as richest parts of US are dominated by high IQ folks. But if some guy is smart but unstudly, he has to be very rich to be ‘sexy’. It’s like Rusty Trawler had the attention of ladies in BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S only because they thought he was STINKING rich.

    It just so happens that while high IQ guys are generally considerably better off than most people, most high IQ shmorks are NOT Bill Gates or Larry Brin. They are affluent but not super-rich, and affluent isn’t to attract the chicks with ease.

    In traditional society, it didn’t matter if high IQ shmorks didn’t have much charm or sexual attractiveness. Marriages tended to be arranged, and/or there was great pressure placed on women to marry early and have children. Also, as society was pre-pornographic, women got married to get married, settle down, and have kids. They weren’t talking potty-mouthed like in SEX AND THE CITY and measuring each other’s prestige in terms of whose boyfriend got the bigger pud.
    In pre-modern society, women didn’t talk like that, and they didn’t know all that much about sexuality. They were raised to be wives, and they felt lucky if they were arranged to be married to some high IQ person of social respect.
    Today, if a pretty girl ends up with a high IQ shmork, she might be ridiculed by friends for being with a nerd or geek.

    Now, nerds or geeks can be charming and get the girls if they are witty and funny. Woody Allen play-acted at being awkward but he made women laugh, and humor is a great aphrodisiac.
    But most high IQ shmorks are more like the Eugene character in GREASE. They are just annoying.

    Anyway, high IQ shmorks didn’t have to worry about having a girl and having kids in the old days since everything as all pretty much arranged for them.
    But today in the free modern marketplace of sex, they must WIN the hearts of girls(who think pornily), and they lack the charms and style to do so.

    For thug-warrior types, finding and hooking up with women comes naturally. It was so in the past and is still today. In primitive society, they were flexing muscles and saying ‘come here ho!’
    And today, they say ‘come here ho!’ Thug-warrior types don’t need social aid to find girls. They don’t need society finding and arranging sexual relations for them since they just go for it.
    And even though women may be afraid of thug-warrior types, they are easily turned on by them.
    A shmork would have to be very rich to turn on a woman, but even a poor thug-warrior dude can turn on a woman.

    So, thug-warrior types bred a lot in the past and breed a lot today. It just comes naturally to them.

    But mating doesn’t come naturally to the shmorks. They bred a lot in the past because society was geared to support and favor them with arrangements for marriage and such and because women were raised to marry young and have kids.
    But such social support no longer exists. Sure, shmorks are now richer than ever, but they have to actually go out as individually and look for love, and they aren’t much good at that.

    Thug-warriors are like rabbits that breed easily anywhere.

    But shmorks are like pandas that are very socially awkward when it comes to sex. In captivity, tremendous amounts of effort was be made to help pandas mate.

    In traditional society, tremendous social forces were geared to favor the mating of shmorks. But in modern society, such support system no longer exists. Ho’s be free, and panda males have to go and get them. But they don’t know how.

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  32. The Z Blog
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    I try to remain sanguine about it, but it is not easy. The thing is, there’s no reversing the decline of our ruling elite. In another age, you could look forward to a great many of them being killed in battle. That’s never happening now. We’ll have to wait for a crisis or an accident like a nuclear exchange. It will have to be so threatening that the ruling elite revolts against itself, pruning the worst from its ranks.

    I’m not optimistic on that score. As long as 30% of white America wants the other 70% dead, the cold civil war will continue and the nation will steadily decline. We’ll look back in thirty years at this period and see the 1980′s were just a slight rear guard action that temporarily arrested the decline.

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  33. Chris
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    It’s only a fiasco if it impacts your power in the realm of practical politics. You can call Tawana Brawley a fiasco, but hey, Al Sharpton is still alive and kicking and leading demonstrations and getting invited to the White House. It didn’t affect his sway over the mob/constituency that he draws his power from. This story will be forgotten in a year. Then it will be reprised again with different players. Nothing changes.

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  34. Autopsy Expert is nothing of the sort:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-mike-brown-autopsy-expert-is-not-a-doctor-has-degree-in-non-existent-medical-field-video/

    Hmmm, this happened in the Trayvon case as well, where the Scheme Team brought in bogus experts.

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  35. Chris
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    It’s only a fiasco if it impacts your power in the realm of practical politics. You can call Tawana Brawley a fiasco, but hey, Al Sharpton is still alive and kicking and leading demonstrations and getting invited to the White House. It didn’t affect his sway over the mob/constituency that he draws his power from. This story will be forgotten in a year. Then it will be reprised with different players. Nothing changes.

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  36. “The policy of America has been, for most of its history, white supremacy. The high rates of violence in black neighborhoods do not exist outside of these facts—they evidence them.”

    But aren’t blacks in da hood killing one another over black supremacy? And hasn’t such tribalism been the norm among black Africans for 100,000 yrs in Africa?

    Rap music seems to be about black supremacy of “my thug fist can whup yo thug ass” than about the KKK.

    And Coates has a black supremacist mind-set since he sees his own people as so faultless that even their faults are entirely the product of the evil of others.

    “Even when we be wrong, we be right.”

    A corrupt supremacist mind-set.

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  37. Coates: “Even when we be wrong, we be right.”

    How more supremacist can you get?

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  38. anon
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    JEW + BLACKS = bad news

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  39. Harold
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    Ta-Nehisi Coates is just one of America’s pet negroes. A while ago I read someone refer to Coates as one of today’s foremost intellectuals. Ridiculous of course, but what particularly struck me was that the writer seemed to be oblivious to the fact that noone outside of America has ever heard of him.

    Another example of this phenomenon is Maya Angelou. My mother has a large library including a couple of shelves of poetry and more poetry amongst her collection of valuable first editions, yet when I told her Maya Angelou had died, she replied ‘who?’. She had never heard of her, few non-Americans have. Of course her death was reported on our news, mostly because our news is lazy and just copies whatever is on the BBC, or CNN, or Al Jazeera, and so on.

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  40. It’s CUNTry music now.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/thuggification-of-country-music-redux

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    The most salient feature about the hysteria driving this whole debacle on day after wearisome day is the fact that the mainstream media coverage is based on the absolute inversion of the truth regarding the state of criminality and police/societal relations in black America.
    I don’t know what the annual average homicide figures are in Ferguson but I bet they are horrific – and furthermore I bet they are almost exclusively perpetrated by blacks against mainly other blacks.In other words the ‘war against blacks’ in Ferguson is strictly a black affair. No doubt Ferguson PD make an effort to try to enforce law and order and to investigate the myriad of cases of blacks killing blacks – just for one moment think what the wholesale orgy of death would result if the PD threw in the towel and vacated the oplsce and left blacks to their natural proclivities – but the message the media are putting out is somehow that the police are failing in their duty to ‘protect and serve, blacks, yet clearly blacks want nothing of the sort, they wish to be left alone in their natural state of anarchy until such time as it doesn’t suit them any longer. In short the police can never win.

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    On January 5 2014, Christopher Roupe was shot dead by a police lady. He was opening the door to his house and was holding a Wii game controller. He was 17 and white. The police officer suffered no consequences. On February 14 Keith Vidal, 18 and white, was mortally tasered by a police officer. He was tasered while holding a screw driver. The officer was charged and convicted of manslaughter.

    The idea that blacks are disproportionately victims of police violence may or may not be true, but I haven’t seen any facts. But whites are also victims of police stupidity, you just never hear about it.

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  43. Rose
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    @syon: pizza with squirrel brains is right about the Jew/black high – low coalition against whites (whether Christian or agnostic). The civil rights movements of the 1960s were strongly supported by Jews, they were among the leaders. There is a high intermarriage rate between Jews in the USA and USA blacks and Israeli Jews and blacks from Africa. A recent poll cited that Jews have more favorable feelings toward Muslims than Christians!!! Most Muslims (99%) are not white, they are black or Asian. Jews also have high intermarriage rates with Asians. Their loyalties are naturally toward non-whites and non-Christians. I live in a very large American city and over the past 2 to 3 years have seen some interesting announcements for meetings between Jews and Muslims to understand each other better, through the Old Testament and Koran. Funny, Christians are never mentioned or invited. How do the Jews or Muslims square the Jesus of the Koran with the Jesus of the New Testament if neither Jews or Muslims know the true Jesus of the New Testament? I blame Christian Zionists for a lot of these problems though. The rapture theory (which is fortunately being proven as idiotic) is behind white, Christian support for Jews. But white Christians need to see how their Jewish support is being repaid, i.e., Ferguson.

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    That is amazing. LOL

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  45. Sebastian
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    The policy of America has been, for most of its history, white supremacy. The high rates of violence in black neighborhoods do not exist outside of these facts—they evidence them.

    Because it’s well known that blacks outside of America (in Africa for example) are distinguished by their commitment to peace and law.

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    Rush Limbaugh spoke about this case today, as a counterpoint: http://www.ebengregory.com/2014/08/17/utah-police-shoot-kill-unarmed-man-wearing-headphones-couldnt-hear-orders/

    An unarmed white man shot by a cop in Salt Lake City. I’d heard of the case, but hadn’t heard that the cop was black, which Rush said was the case.

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    But go check Facebook, Twitter, etc. and see how many whites — by the tens of millions — are even now fervently aping the narrative. It works. It does what it’s supposed to do. And this will not change.

    I agree with peterike2. White, black, red, purple… the narrative is being applied by millions of low information people to confirm their bias. Later contravening facts aren’t even received by these people. On the few occasions follow-up facts are received, they are rationalized away as conspiracy and cover-up by “The Man.”

    Obviously the media and Democratic elite know this. The only thing that holds them back is their own shame at engaging in bald propaganda (except they are almost completely shameless), and reasonabe caution they might over-play their hand and the mob turns on them too. So we don’t get these farces all the time, only when it’s important — like during a tight election year.

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  48. Jim
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    This guy Michael Brown commits robbery and assault at a store, is stopped by a policeman for walking in the middle of the street, assaults the policeman, tries to grab his gun, hits him hard enough to cause facial fractures and is then shot dead while charging the policeman and he’s a hero. This country is bat-shit crazy.

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  49. Dave Pinsen
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    There hasn’t been much of a Jewish-black coalition since the 1960s.

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  50. Reader
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    If there’s a practical lesson to take from this, it seems to be that white police officers need to quit their jobs in non-white (especially black) areas and move and seek employment elsewhere, because there is an increasingly good chance that they will be used to make an example, regardless of the merits of the case. Why take the chance? As the country turns darker it’s only become more dangerous for white cops to work in those areas. Let the blacks police themselves.

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    There hasn’t been much of a Jewish-black coalition since the 1960s.

    Full spectrum control of the media narrative means one doesnt have to get ones hands dirty. Just plug in the correct media narrative, sit back and watch the sparks fly.

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  52. Jefferson
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    ” a Searing Indictment of the National Crisis of the White Racist Power Structure Murdering Black Babies,”

    Are African Americans as a people so tall that 6 foot 4 is considered a baby by their standards ? Is the average African American 7 foot 4 ?

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  53. Why? Should pizza have qualified his statement by saying “Jewish-SWPL types” instead of the just Jewish?

    As I have mentioned before, I don’t blame Jewish elites (I suspect from friends over the years that your average Jew isn’t on board) for doing their damndest to turn the U.S. – and, really, the entire Western world save Israel – from a 90% white country into a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multiracial country. From their point of view, it makes the country safer for them and their children. Personally, I think that they’re hurting themselves and their children, but I can see where they’re coming from.

    But I refuse to act as though Jews haven’t been a driving – possibly, THE driving force – since the 1960s in trying to marginalize whites. From telling us that we’re evil to allowing millions of 3rd world immigrants into the country, Jewish elites have been pushing policies that have hammered the white working and middle classes. (They haven’t done much for the Jewish middle class either, I might add.)

    Once again, that’s their prerogative. But it’s my prerogative to fight back – against them and their SWPL lackeys. And one of the ways in which I fight back to state the obvious.

    (Btw, while I have some sympathy for Jewish elites, I hold a special place in my heart for SWPL types. At least Jewish elites are attempting to look out for their own. SWPL whites are actively trying to destroy their own people for brief applause.)

    When I see Jewish leaders saying things along the lines of whites have a right to live amongst their own like Jews in Israel and multiracial countries have always ended badly so maybe we should stop immigration, I’ll gladly stop pointing out that Jewish elites are trying to screw us over. Until then, stop telling me that Jewish elites are my – and other white people’s – buddy.

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  54. C. Van Carter
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    Sure.

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    “Why are the crappy cases elevated to riot status? Why not the real problem cases?”

    Because then people might band together and enact real change. And that would never do. You want it to hit enough black sore spots that a critical mass of black people comes out to riot. And you want it to be clearly BS (at least to anyone who cares to look a little deeper) so that a critical mass of white people are completely alienated not only from the individual case but from the general cause of reining the police in.

    Basically, they want people angry. But actually solving – or even ameliorating – problems is not in their best interest.

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  56. Jefferson
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    “Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?”

    Low IQ + high testosterone means it is extremely hard for a lot of Black males not to Chimp Out in front of a police officer.

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  57. Rose
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    @Dave Pinsen: Please see my remarks to @syon.

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  58. Jefferson
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    If Hussein Obama was truly a politically centrist middle of the road politician, he would have chosen a Black man who does not have extreme hatred of White people to be attorney general.

    Choosing Eric Holder was an extremely left wing move to appease his far left wing base. Eric Holder is a radical Black militant in a suit and tie. Eric Holder is no different than Al Sharpton.

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    […] Source: Steve Sailer […]

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  60. Jefferson
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    I saw a poll on Fox News which said 33 percent of Whites side with Michael Brown and the Black protestors and think the police officer was in the wrong. 39 percent of White voters voted for Hussein Obama in 2012.

    I think it is safe to assume that the vast majority of Whites who side with Eric Holder and the Black protestors in Ferguson are Obama voters, with the remainder being Ron Paul/Gary Johnson voters.

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  61. HL
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    hey homeboy sailer, instead of doing pledge drives you can try this kind of thing

    http://www.patreon.com/

    where you can get ppl to donate a couple bux on a monthly basis, might make the wife happy to be able to schedule your costco trips for plastic utensils

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  62. george
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    Video of Brown’s body and narrative by an actual witness. The corpse is not near the police car and officer Wilson does not appear to have been injured in any way, or even in a fight.

    http://www.ryot.org/video-of-michael-brown-shooting-officer-darren-wilson/789921

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    See this article in the Daily Mail for a splashy account of Attorney Gen. Holder’s homecoming in Ferguson:

    ‘My man! You’re the man!’: Eric Holder greets Highway Patrol captain battling Ferguson riots as he tells college students ‘change is coming’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729598/Holder-bringing-personal-perspective-Ferguson.html

    The picture of Michael Brown with what appears to be devil horns on his forehead, shows how adept the Daily Mail is at riding two horses at once. But then again, they appear to actually rely on sales to stay in business unlike much of the prestige press.

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  64. iSteveFan
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    There hasn’t been much of a Jewish-black coalition since the 1960s.

    Or since the election of Obama.

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  65. AnAnon
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    well those other cases happened in good progressive areas.

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  66. “There hasn’t been much of a Jewish-black coalition since the 1960s.”

    Socially, many Jews stay away from blacks, but politically-culturally-and-symbolically, the two communities are very close. Jews see white gentiles as main rivals and fear the revival of any kind of white power/identity/interest/pride.

    Though Jews privately detest blacks like Sharpton and Jackson(in fact, most blacks), they see blacks as useful for historical reasons because of the power of ‘white guilt’. And notice how Jews don’t use ‘white guilt’ only against white southerners but all white gentiles–even immigrants who arrived in the 20th century(whereas even African immigrants in the 21st century get to hide behind ‘Jim Crow’ symbolism). So, the Jewish-dominated Media go all out on MLK worship, Oprah worship, Obama worship, and mountain-sized Negro who luvs a little white mouse worship.
    Negro worship is so much a part of our political culture that we have Rand Paul arguing that GOP must appeal to Detroit blacks with a libertarian message(ROTFL). And we have GOP peeing in its pants over Ben Carson. Uncle Ben’s Nice. “We got ourselves a Negro!!”

    If not for ‘white guilt’ about blacks, Jews would be morally indebted to American white gentiles since the latter helped defeat the Nazis. But if Jews exploit the cult of ‘white guilt’ related to slavery(called the ‘original sin’ of America as, I suppose, the ‘genocide’ of Indians don’t count anymore), then even white Americans are browbeaten by morally superior Jews-as-Holocaust-survivors allied with slavery-suffered Negroes. And consider the cult of personality around Mandela, the black terrorist-communist whom the Jewish elites bought off with cookies and prizes. Mandela sort of went mum about Israel’s oppression of Palestinians as the Narrative was rewritten to make Israel–once the closest ally of Apartheid South Africa–the best friend of New South Africa.

    Blacks have tremendous symbolic value for Jews in subduing white pride that might lead to white power. Whites must be made to feel white shame as shame leads to lack of confidence and submissiveness. And the big shame for ALL whites in America is related to slavery–even if you’re a Polish-American who arrived in the 1980s as immigrants.

    But blacks are also useful to Jews in subduing whites because black supremacy in sports and pop music reduce white men into white boys worshiping black muscle and reduce white women into white hos lusting after black meat.
    Privately, many Jews feel as Donald Sterling do about blacks, but the Narrative says Jews and blacks are holy-victim-brothers under the sun while white gentiles are either very bad ‘racists’(the conservatives) or subconscious ‘racists’(the do-goody white liberals who still carry the ‘original sin’ in their hearts).

    So, the black-Jewish alliance is still symbolically the MOST IMPORTANT in America. Not because most Jews want to live with blacks but because black slavery and black muscle are the two forces that are most effective in making whites go limp/submissive with either ‘white guilt or jungle fever.

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  67. Eric Holder’ may have threatened to look into civil rights violations against George Zimmerman, but I believe a tacit agreement was reached. Zimmerman will not face further harrassment by the Justice Department, but in return, the Left gets to keep promoting its original version of the incident: that Saint Trayvon of the Hoodie was martyred by the evil gun-toting, stand-your -grounding, race-profiling, wannabe-cop who shot him for Walking While Black. I say that because that’s the version I continue to hear.

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    “It doesn’t though. I mean sure, here in reality it’s all obvious agit-prop theater. But go check Facebook, Twitter, etc. and see how many whites — by the tens of millions — are even now fervently aping the narrative. It works. It does what it’s supposed to do. And this will not change.”

    I always enjoy your comments, but I wonder if you are being too pessimistic.

    I am sure I am not the only one of Steve’s readers to notice that many of the themes discussed on Steve’s blog and on other “Dark Enlightenment” web sites are becoming increasingly common to encounter when reading the comments section to an article on a traditional legacy media news outlet.

    Frankly, when reading a news story on Yahoo, I am periodically shocked by how often the readers have begun to sound like they are reading Steve’s blog…I am sure other commentators here have had the same experience. True this is not always the case on every article, but it happens frequently enough for me to notice.

    Additionally, I know that I, myself, and many other commentators had an awakening because of Steve and other sites like his… surely that is happening every day to others too, no?

    For instance, although I have always been conservative, about 10 years ago I began to read Steve and other HBD oriented writers like him. As a result, I started to became more aware of HBD, the Hi/Low game against the Middle Class in America, Jewish tribal antagonism toward’s Whites, and other HBD related themes he and others explore.

    One question related to your comments is whether a change in consciousness to Whites is happening fast enough and in large enough amounts to alter the politically tsunami that is about to occur because of rapid demographic change (Whites becoming a minority)

    My guess is probably no… and that we are sliding to a more Brazilian or Mexican type of culture (therefore you are right to a certain extent).

    There is absolutely no question that there is a significant degree to truth to what you say, and that Whites largely are still ignorant of their situation and how the game is being played, yet it seems to me there has been some change in the attitudes of Whites.

    I wonder if it is possible to quantify the change? How would one go about quantifying such a change?

    I can only offer anecdotal evidence, but I would be interested in hearing from any reader who has more quantifiable substantive evidence of a White awakening (or absence of such an awakening).

    Also, one should remember that revolutionary change in attitudes can happen “very rapidly” once events are primed and an event occurs that can serve as a catalyst….most revolutions seem to happen” overnight”, but are usually the build up of grievances and resistance over many years.

    Perhaps … I am still a little optimistic that things might change for the better for Whites and that perhaps the society will adopt some form of Steve’s Citizenism, but I wonder what scenarios others might predict for the future?

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    Perhaps because if enough attention were paid to the obvious cases, sensible solutions would be put forth and agreed upon.
    TPTB don’t want that.

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    Paragraph 21 of the linked NYT article:

    However, law enforcement officials say witnesses and forensic analysis have shown that Officer Wilson did sustain an injury during the struggle in the car.

    Meanwhile, the lede of the Daily Mail story Ferguson cop who shot dead Michael Brown ‘was severely beaten by teenager’:

    The Ferguson police officer who shot dead Michael Brown was badly beaten before opening fire on the unarmed teenager, according to a police source.

    Darren Wilson, 28, had serious facial injuries following the incident in the St Louis suburb including an eye socket fracture.

    The officer was almost knocked unconscious by Brown leaving him dazed, according to police, during the incident on August 9.

    Ferguson officer Darren Wilson had ‘severe facial injuries’ after being beaten by Michael Brown, a police source said on Wednesday…

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    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

    TNC has in his favor not only the virtues of being stupid and ignorant – he’s also lazy. That’s a trifecta. Small wonder Bennet added him to the employee rolls.

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  72. Chris
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    Interest group politics being a racket, to what extent is this uproar a patronage operation? The objective here being proportionate racial representation in departments like the Ferguson PD, ie. more jobs for our people, less for yours.

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  73. Anonymous
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    “Opinions differ.”

    Isn’t that the truth. I went on some black web sites and tried to politely point out some facts and ask some questions about black behavior. I thought I could have an honest dialogue. NEVER AGAIN! All i got was insults and venom.

    And of course I was told I am a “racist”.

    Blacks are neither objective nor interested in facts. They simply think in tribal racial terms. I can see now how easy it really is for the Race-pimps to stir them up.

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  74. Officer Wilson did sustain an injury during the struggle in the car. . .

    What a sense of understatement the NY Times when the blunt truth doesn’t fit the narrative! Kinda like the president, when he says:

    There are young black men that commit crime. And — and — and we can argue about why that happens because of the poverty they were born into or the lack of opportunity or the school systems that failed them or what have you, but if they commit a crime, then they need to be prosecuted because every community has an interest in public safety.

    How do you like that? The president acknowledges that there are young black men that actually do commit crime, as if that’s a concession on his part. Not that they commit a wildly disproportionate amount of violent crime, not that they inflict fear on every community in America and have made many of them almost unlivable, no, he’s not prepared to acknowledge that, but he is willing to concede that some do commit crime. And then, of course, he has to immediately throw in all the disclaimers that remove moral responsibility from them–poverty, school system, lack of opportunity, blah, blah, blah.

    Pathetic.

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  75. dearieme
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    That’s a good question. In London a few years ago an odious police bully killed a pathetic alcoholic by pushing him over in the street. It was a shameful case; the old boy had been no conceivable danger to anyone. The media response was rather muted. Why?

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    Even now the NYTimes appears to be fudging it:

    Many witnesses also agreed on what happened next: Officer Wilson’s firearm went off inside the car, Mr. Brown ran away, the officer got out of his car and began firing toward Mr. Brown, and then Mr. Brown stopped, turned around and faced the officer.

    Many other witnesses (lol) tell a different story, one in which Brown turns and charges Wilson before shots are fired.

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  77. Anon
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    That video is so blurry you can’t tell any thing from it.

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  78. Retired
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    Like to see his rap sheet.

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    I don’t know why this cop thinks it’s okay to suspend the constitution for the duration of a field stop. As for a person threatening to sue an abusive cop, that’s his right, not a provocation. Cops think they should be about to order people around, humiliate them at will without the slightest pushback. And when someone does protest they pull their guns and there’s no telling what will happen next. But it won’t be good for the person trying to stand up for his rights, even if he’s only trying to use a cell phone to record the cop on a public street.

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    Excellent summary and great insight. I agree 100% with everything you have said. Blacks are a tool used by Jews to advance their own interests. Just as they use Aborigines in Australia against whites there for the same reasons. See ‘The Jewish war against White Australia’.

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    That’s not half of it. Country nowadays is all shredneck whiskey swilling pot smoking truck driving country boy tattoos ‘n’ porn, with same 1970s era rock beat and power chords +banjos steel fiddle and whatnot, recycled by the same Nashville session players, over and over unto death..and it ain’t conservative, either. It’s all If it feels good do it and Racists be Haters.

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  82. E. Rekshun
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    But go check Facebook, Twitter, etc. and see how many whites — by the tens of millions — are even now fervently aping the narrative.

    I think you’re right, but I bet a high number of these White sheep are simply posing to show their non-racism.

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    This guy, Tanasi Cotes, writes like the worst kind of pseudointellectual bullshit artist I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s painful!

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  84. Jefferson
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    “As I have mentioned before, I don’t blame Jewish elites (I suspect from friends over the years that your average Jew isn’t on board) for doing their damndest to turn the U.S. – and, really, the entire Western world save Israel – from a 90% white country into a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multiracial country. From their point of view, it makes the country safer for them and their children. Personally, I think that they’re hurting themselves and their children, but I can see where they’re coming from”

    How does turning the U.S into a predominantly Nonwhite country make it safer for Jews and their children ? Every poll I have ever seen says a majority of People Of Color have a negative opinion of the Jews, the percentage is even higher than White Gentiles who have a negative opinion of Jews.

    Since Jews look closer to White people in phenotype than they do to People Of Color, they are not exempt from being victims of interracial violence. Remember when the Jew Matt Yglesias for example, was a victim of the polar bear hunting game in Washington D.C.

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  85. As I have mentioned before, I don’t blame Jewish elites (I suspect from friends over the years that your average Jew isn’t on board) for doing their damndest to turn the U.S. – and, really, the entire Western world save Israel – from a 90% white country into a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multiracial country.

    Again with this lie, Jews don’t want more immigration.

    As for the Jewish elite, all gentile elites want more immigration.

    How do you explain ethnically Scandinavian American elites like Rove and Norquist pursuing immigration?

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  86. Early comment said it best. This is one of Steve’s most passionate (or in today’s common venacular, peed off) posts, not just at unz but perhaps in a long long time.

    The only time he uses this amount of passion is when he writes vs good ol’ Malcolm Gladwell.

    An observation: Regarding Gladwell’s theory of 10,000hrs of practice and how it makes one better, how does it relate to these Ferguson rioters and looters? Perhaps some of them have already put in the necessary hours of practice in order to become most effective at burning down major swaths of the city.

    Practice does make one better and from the looks of some of these protestors they truly are awfully pretty good at what they’re doing to their own city.

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  87. syon
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    Why? Should pizza have qualified his statement by saying “Jewish-SWPL types” instead of the just Jewish?

    It’s sloppy thinking of the Kevin MacDonald “everything would be wonderful were it not for the Jew” school. It’s the White Gentile version of the standard POC narrative (“everything would be wonderful were it not for Europeans”).

    Along those lines, it’s quite entertaining to read KM and swap White Man for Jew. It reads like a Nation of Islam screed.

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    We have 90-year old Holocaust Survivor going through a photo-op as she’s arrested in Ferguson.

    And how many of Officer Darren Wilson’s forefathers (or the hundreds of thousands of others that just look like Darren Wilson) conquered the Nazis and freed this loony Holocaust Survivor (and tens of thousands just like her)?

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  89. It’s time anti-semites to admit the “Jews opened the West’s” borders is a lie started by Kevin MacDonald who has been caught fabricating quotes from his own source documentation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald#Academic_reception

    MacDonald has particularly been accused by other academics of academic fraud, saying that he has promoted anti-Semitic propaganda under the guise of what he says is a legitimate and academic search for truth.[27] He has also been accused of misrepresenting the sources he uses in that regard. Fenris State University professor Dr. Barry Mehler cited for example a quote from a 1969 dissertation by Sheldon Morris Neuringer titled American Jewry and United States immigration policy, 1881-1953 where MacDonald surmised that when Neuringer noted Jewish opposition in 1921 and 1924 to the anti-immigration legislation at the time was due more to it having the “taint of discrimination and anti-Semitism” as opposed to how it would limit Jewish immigration, MacDonald wrote, “…Jewish opposition to the 1921 and 1924 legislation was motivated less by a desire for higher levels of Jewish immigration than by opposition to the implicit theory that America should be dominated by individuals with northern and western European ancestry.” “It seems to me Mr. MacDonald is misrepresenting Mr. Neuringer in this case and I posted my query hoping that a historian familiar with the literature might have a judgment on MacDonald’s use of the historical data,” Mehler wrote, citing other examples.[28]

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  90. syon
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    It’s sloppy thinking of the Kevin MacDonald “everything would be wonderful were it not for the Jew” school. It’s the White Gentile version of the standard POC narrative (“everything would be wonderful were it not for Europeans”).

    Along those lines, it’s quite entertaining to read KM and swap White Man for Jew. Do that, and it reads like a Nation of Islam screed.

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  91. Along those lines, it’s quite entertaining to read KM and swap White Man for Jew. It reads like a Nation of Islam screed.

    MacDonald – who is the primary source anti-semites use to claim immigration is a Jewish agenda – is not a credible source of information.

    He’s lied about studies of ethnocentrism where the study showed Jews were among the least ethnocentric groups as proof Jews are among the most ethnocentric, and claiming Solzhenitsyn’s Two Hundred Years Together as being anti-Semitic when in fact he denied Jews were collectively responsible for the Revolution. He’s also been quoted in separate speeches saying the real leader of the Russian Revolution was an ethnic Russian (in his opinion, Lenin and other revolutionary renegades were just talking heads):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Hundred_Years_Together

    The book has been described by historian Richard Pipes of Harvard University as “a conscious effort to show empathy for both sides,” and exonerating Jews for responsibility for the revolution: “No, in no way can it be said that Jews ‘made’ the revolution of 1905 or 1917 as it was not made by another nation taken as a whole”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shlyapnikov

    ^ Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr (2002-08-14) [June 30, 1975, Washington, DC: AFL‐CIO], Words of Warning to the Western World, RU: Lib, retrieved 2014-02-04, “Among the leadership, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, at the beginning of the Revolution, all were émigré intellectuals who had returned, after the uprisings had already broken out in Russia, in order to carry through the Communist Revolution. One of them was a genuine worker, a highly skilled lathe operator until the last day of his life. This was Alexander Shliapnikov. Who knows that name today? Precisely because he expressed the true interests of the workers within the Communist leadership. In the years before the Revolution it was Shliapnikov who ran the whole Communist Party in Russia – not Lenin, who was an émigré.

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  92. E. Rekshun
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    I went on some black web sites and tried to politely point out some facts and ask some questions about black behavior. I thought I could have an honest dialogue.

    Hahahahahah!

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  93. syon
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    And how many of Officer Darren Wilson’s forefathers (or the hundreds of thousands of others that just look like Darren Wilson) conquered the Nazis and freed this loony Holocaust Survivor (and tens of thousands just like her)?

    Probably none. The extermination camps in the East were liberated by the Soviets. Hence, the Holocaust was stopped not by Anglo-Saxon freedom (America and Britain) but by Stalinist tyranny.

    Or, to put it another way, the man who stopped Hitler from killing more than 12 million civilians was Stalin, the guy who killed 9 million+ civilians.

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    “As I have mentioned before, I don’t blame Jewish elites (I suspect from friends over the years that your average Jew isn’t on board) for doing their damndest to turn the U.S. – and, really, the entire Western world save Israel – from a 90% white country into a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multiracial country. From their point of view, it makes the country safer for them and their children. Personally, I think that they’re hurting themselves and their children, but I can see where they’re coming from.”

    First, plenty of gentile elites were on board with ending America as a 90% white country. Ted Kennedy, Phillip Hart, those guys weren’t Jews. Did Jews play a disproportionate role in supporting open borders? Yeah, but gentile elites are much more to blame because they still have much more power in absolute terms than the Jewish elites. There are plenty of white, Christian billionaires today who take a diverse range of stances on political matters. Outside of the late Richard M. Scaife and Peter Thiel, I don’t know of any who support immigration restrictionism. You can’t really convincingly blame that on the Jews.

    As a corollary to that, many Jews and Jewish elites support open borders for the same reasons those gentile elites do–an earnest belief it is good policy, economic (rather than ethnic) self-interest, it will help the Democratic party, et cetera.

    The other Jews who support open borders do so not because they feel a multiethnic country is safer for them, but for the reason Steve often notes–they identify themselves as immigrants, even though they have been here for 100 years or more, and identify with immigrants. Economic explanations for why Adelson would support open borders fail–his primary revenue generator is in Macau, not Vegas, he’s 80 years old, and he seems to be a man who acts on what he really believes (why else would you endorse Newt Gingrich and sink $100 million on him?) No, the real reason is that his father was an immigrant, and he still sees himself as one and identifies himself with immigrants, no matter how ridiculous that may seem. But the desire to see oneself as an underdog is strong.

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    Wrong. What makes it hard not to chimp out is Uncle Tom syndrome – “If I’m not defiant, I’m not black.” The best thing that could have happened to black people would have been for Werner Erhard to have gotten hold of them some time before 1987, when Leonard Jeffries pumped all that afro-centrism into them. Just imagine if millions of blacks had had the benefit of a 3-day seminar where they had to confront their own complicity in their life directions: “I am an asshole!”

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  96. syon
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    Actually, he’s telling the world that he knows enough writers who don’t know who St Augustine is that he is competent to opine on the typical reaction of such a writer on hearing his name. That’s pretty disturbing, given who he is.

    MMM, that’s not how I interpret it. I see it as Bennet saying that if another writer were caught not knowing something, he would have googled it. I don’t read that passage as implying that lots of writers don’t know who St Augustine is.

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  97. I live near Steve Sailer. I saw the video of the cop beating this 70 year old black woman on the side of the highway. I saw her running, screaming away from this crazy guy.

    There is a problem with cops and blacks. It’s been my impression that the cops were in these cases Hispanic.

    Remember the black cop who shot the other cops and he hid in the cabin and the cabin was burned down? Frankly, many of us actually sympathized with the guy.

    The media is being evil…..But I’m seeing a lot of evil from white nationalists. Someone just posted on facebook “Glad another one’s dead” (or something like that) and we know he is…he’s one of our VDare guys.

    We’re not in the business of celebrating death. Even if the person who is dead is a bad guy…that’s not our right. (not to mention the lifetime damage done to the people who shoot other people in self-defense…its better for everyone that criminals are brought to court alive)

    We, as whites, as white nationalists, are dedicated to Truth and Justice.

    My truth is that the blacks have a right to be mad over this case. The cop could have chosen to call backup. Yes, bad things will happen to you if attack a cop. BUT….A cop has to control himself and have the attitude that Life Needs to Be Preserved if Possible. And there was a possibility that life could have been preserved.

    And you guys by not realizing that…are just fueling the media hatred of whites. You are all falling into the trap.

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  98. george
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    Video of Brown’s body and narrative by an actual witness.

    1.The corpse is not near the police car which means he was not shot while his head was in the car. An entry wound on top of Brown’s head was explained by police as occuring when Brown and Wilson fought in the patrol car.

    2. Officer Wilson does not appear to have been injured in any way, or even in a fight as is described by souces posted on Drudge.

    3. Officer Wilson does not appear to have an injury to his eye socket or he would be going to hospital or atleast holding an ice pack on it. Oddly reporting of officer Wilson’s orbital socket fracture is a week after the incident instead of immediately as I would expect.

    A minor point is Vdare seems to have stopped considering the national question as is just reposting Ferguson, Mo stories.

    http://www.ryot.org/video-of-michael-brown-shooting-officer-darren-wilson/789921

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  99. Jefferson
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    Rand Paul is taking the typical Liberal/Libertarian stance on Ferguson by saying that the American criminal just system is racist.

    That is not going to help him in the Republican primaries in 2016 with middle age and senior citizen traditional White Conservative voters who have a negative view of Blacks.

    The people who vote in Republican primaries on average are way more to the right than people who vote in the general election.

    That Blacks are victims political talking point is not going to fly with most voters who vote in the Republican primaries.

    Rand Paul would be better off running for president as a registered Libertarian than as a registered Republican, if he is going to take the Blacks are victims of the criminal justice system and the war on drugs route.

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  100. syon
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    It must be quite pleasant to live in so simple a world.

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    “Probably none. The extermination camps in the East were liberated by the Soviets. Hence, the Holocaust was stopped not by Anglo-Saxon freedom (America and Britain) but by Stalinist tyranny.”

    The Soviets wouldn’t have prevailed against Germany without American and British support and pressure from the West. So the camps were indeed stopped by American and British.

    But you raise an interesting issue with this technicality. It is notable, is it not, that while dozens of concentration camps were American soldiers, only the Soviets discovered “extermination camps.”

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    A high percentage of the Black protestors in Ferguson must be unemployed, because they have been protesting/looting/rioting for 11 days now.

    Occupy Wall Street was a combination of unemployed people and rich liberal White trust fund babies who can afford to go months or even years without working because they have rich parents. So they can camp out for like 6 months to a year in a public park in New York City.

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  103. Anonymous
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    MacDonald – who is the primary source anti-semites use to claim immigration is a Jewish agenda – is not a credible source of information.

    The claim is a reasonable one judging by my own observations of public and private Jewish politics and opinion.

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    How does turning the U.S into a predominantly Nonwhite country make it safer for Jews and their children ? Every poll I have ever seen says a majority of People Of Color have a negative opinion of the Jews, the percentage is even higher than White Gentiles who have a negative opinion of Jews.

    Since Jews look closer to White people in phenotype than they do to People Of Color, they are not exempt from being victims of interracial violence. Remember when the Jew Matt Yglesias for example, was a victim of the polar bear hunting game in Washington D.C.

    For 2000 years Jews have been a tiny minority of the European nations they inhabit. Most of the nations they inhabited had a dominant ethnic group and religion, and in most cases that religion was an official part of the government, such as the Catholic Church in Spain or Russian Orthodox Church in Russia. Many times Jews found themselves at odds with the locals, and the forces of the government and religion aligned together against Jews causing many pogroms and expulsions.

    People can argue endlessly on whether the Jews were completely innocent, or if the Christian Europeans had legitimate reasons. People can argue that this is normal human in-group, out-group interaction and conflict. But the point is, it did happen and Jews have a collective memory of this.

    They also have a memory that when they lived in muslim Spain or Ottoman Greece, times were good. I believe they refer to muslim Spain as a golden age for Jewish history. And Salonika Greece became a major Jewish town. Now the local Spaniards and Greeks would certainly disagree, but to the Jews not having the locals and their religion dominate life resulted in a better life for them.

    Keep in mind the muslims did not very much like the Jews in Spain or Greece, but needed them and thus used them to help occupy and administer those nations. So whether people of color have a positive disposition towards Jews is not that important. For a people with a history of being a persecuted minority at the hands of a super majority, it is more important that no one group be dominant than whether or not some groups like them.

    I very much doubt Jews would like the USA to go from 88 percent white Christian to 88 percent black. To a group with their history, it is far better for the USA and other Euro nations to have no dominant factions. As Ben Wattenberg once said, a more diverse America is safer for the Jews.

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  105. Sebastian
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    TUJ – He’s lied about studies of ethnocentrism where the study showed Jews were among the least ethnocentric groups as proof Jews are among the most ethnocentric

    You’re lying about that. In fairness to you, you’ve never even read the person in question, so you’re just regurgitating other peoples lies.

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    How does turning the U.S into a predominantly Nonwhite country make it safer for Jews and their children ?

    Anglo-Europeans, being a talented people, pose a relatively greater economic and assimilationist threat to Jews than a lot of other groups. Gentile lover is often a greater danger than Gentile hostility.

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    I have considerable personal experience dealing with black violent crimes.

    I do carry (legally, of course), but I am under no illusion that my travails would be over the moment I put down a violent aggressor who happens to be black. I have no doubt that I would be instantly portrayed as a trigger happy yellow racist intent on murdering blacks.

    So, on top of carrying, I now record. Yes, I carry an electronic recorder, which is on whenever I carry (which is just about all the time except in the prohibited areas). My particular locality is one party recording (meaning, as long as I am there, I can record). And, yes, it’s so very sad that we have come to this.

    I don’t know the whole story about Ferguson, except the Narrative, as such, seems to be crashing down bit by bit with each discovery. I just feel terrible for the officer who had to put down another human being (which can be traumatic by itself) and doubly sorry for him that now he has been characterized by the media and the mob as a blood-thirsty racist killer who must be “vigorously prosecuted” even before a thorough investigation has been completed.

    And all this for politics. The mob on the street and its political enablers have blood on their hands.

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  108. asdfsdfd
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    OT,Steve, a few months ago you wrote an article about twitters IPO and the IPO process that essentially skims money from the company/shareholders and transfers it to the banks and the banks customers. Here is a video of a guy from the google IPO, blatantly admitting that is the way the game is played.

    Google made more IPO money my way: Bill Hambrecht
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101930315

    Here is an article on the Dutch auction method, which is viscerally hated by bankers:
    Google shares took off, but the auction didn’t
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101912149

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    “I don’t read that passage as implying that lots of writers don’t know who St Augustine is.”

    Good grief. What educated man does not know about St. Augustine? I was a freaking immigrant and I was taught about St. Augustine when I was elementary school age in Asia! He is beloved by even Protestants as an alleged “proto-Protestant”!

    And this fellow, who is ignorant of one of the foundational figures of Christian Western society, is supposed to be some sort of a public intellectual?

    I am so glad I home school my children, but I fear their interactions with their “peers” in the future.

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    It’s time anti-semites to admit the “Jews opened the West’s” borders is a lie started by Kevin MacDonald

    It’s time you extracted your empty little head from your nether regions and came to grips with the reality that plenty of criticism of Jews is well merited and not “anti-semitism”. And knock off the whole “Jews were converted to leftism by evil leftist WASP’s” routine. A running gag around here used to be to refer to Jews as “Scotch-Irish”. Thanks to your efforts it may be time to start referring to Jews as “liberal WASPs”.

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  111. Imaging Obama talking tough to the rioters in Fergusons, I recalled the following scene from Dreams From My Father, excerpted at iSteve.

    “That night, well past midnight, a car pulls up in front of my apartment building, carrying a troop of teenage boys and a set of stereo speakers so loud that the floor of my apartment begins to shake. I’ve learned to ignore such disturbances — where else do they have to go? I say to myself. But on this particular evening I have someone staying over …

    “‘Listen, people, are trying to sleep around here. Why don’t y’all take it someplace else?’

    “The four boys inside say nothing, don’t even move. The wind wipes away my drowsiness, and I feel suddenly exposed, standing in a pair of shorts on the sidewalk in the middle of the night…. One of them could be Kyle. One of them could be Roy. One of them could be Johnnie.”

    “I start picturing myself through the eyes of these boys, a figure of random authority, and know the calculations they might now be making, that if one of them can’t take me out, the four of them certainly can.”

    “The engine starts, and the car screeches away. I turn back toward my apartment knowing that I’ve been both stupid and lucky, knowing that I am afraid after all.”

    That’s why Obama wouldn’t dare go to Ferguson and urge blacks to stop rioting. He’s afraid he’d be booed by the blacks there, or laughed at, or ignored. He’s useless when he’s not exhorting adoring white liberals and he knows it. He has absolutely no physical courage, moral authority, or command presence. The qualities he has that save him sometimes are his temporizing and vacillation. When doing nothing is the best policy, Obama’s your man; otherwise, not so much.

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    CORRECTION TO: “It is notable, is it not, that while dozens of concentration camps were American soldiers, only the Soviets discovered “extermination camps.”

    “It is notable, is it not, that while dozens of concentration camps were LIBERATED BY American soldiers, only the Soviets discovered “extermination camps.”

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    Many times Jews found themselves at odds with the locals, and the forces of the government and religion aligned together against Jews causing many pogroms and expulsions.

    How many is “many”?

    And by the way, the forces of government were more often aligned with jews against the populace, rather than with the populace against jews. Pogroms were essentially popular uprisings against the ruling class.

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    My truth is that the blacks have a right to be mad over this case. The cop could have chosen to call backup. Yes, bad things will happen to you if attack a cop. BUT….A cop has to control himself and have the attitude that Life Needs to Be Preserved if Possible. And there was a possibility that life could have been preserved.

    Depends on what police protocol is when faced with crime. Do you sit in your car and call for backup or do you try to apprehend the perpetrator. If police protocol is the latter, you are out of line in saying the police officer should have done otherwise.

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  115. What’s with the “Hussein Obama”? People are trying to have an intelligent conversation here and you’re turning it into a drunken rant in the parking lot of Hooters.

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    The other Jews who support open borders do so not because they feel a multiethnic country is safer for them, but for the reason Steve often notes–they identify themselves as immigrants, even though they have been here for 100 years or more, and identify with immigrants.

    This alleged identification with immigrants qua immigrants doesn’t seem to inform the immigration policy of the Jewish state, oddly enough.

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  117. Re: your “everybody does it and not just the Jews” argument, the old saying is still apt and holds true.

    “If you’re not part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem.”

    You just named Scaife and Thiel, two movers and shakers who at least publicly supported immigration restriction.

    Still waiting for you to name some prominent and influential Shermans who are also for immigration restriction.

    Still waiting.

    Still waiting.

    And thus the old saying is ever so apt.

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  118. You just made an important point. Wattenberg was looking at it from his tribe’s own interests and not the interests of America.

    A more diverse America, over time, would also tend to be bad for Jews. They are considered to be caucasian. If you don’t have direct scientific evidence to provide contrary to this established fact, then you must be aware that their cry “We’re just like you! We’re a persecuted minority.” Will not wash much in the US, since in point of fact, Jews have NEVER been persecuted to the level and extent that they were in other parts of the world.

    To the African-American, it has long been a truism that US Jews participated in the antebellum economy (e.g. there were in fact US Jews who profited from slavery. Whether or not they were actual slave owners is an entirely different matter). The point is, blacks and also Latinos to a growing extent do NOT view US Jews as co-equals in the struggle vs YT. They tend to see Jews as just another white entity, and one who has (in their eyes) more than helped to keep people of color back, beholden to, and down regarding progress and betterment.

    See, in human history, there is always a dominant faction. In nations this is self evident. Would think that given the US WASP history toward US Jews that they would much rather prefer to live under a WASP dominated nation than a multicultural nation where everyone will suffer and it will not end well for anyone except the individual group who wields the balance of power.

    Also, again, you are being naive re: whether or not its not important if a few groups are vs Jews. If nearly every single group in a multicultural society is vs them, then it will not end well for them.

    BOOM

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  119. Bill
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    It’s actually not like that at all. The MacDonaldian White Gentiles don’t want anything from Jews except freedom. The standard POC narrative is not about demanding freedom from Europeans, but demanding reparations from and power over Europeans.

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    Even by the standards of “Jumpy, Overenthusiastic White Cop Shoots Random Black Citizen” this case is pretty absurd. What are the odds that a white racist cop shoots a “random” black guy who just happened to steal from a store AND just happened to shove the cashier AND just happened to be high on pot AND just happened to be jaywalking?

    Pretty slim. But according to Eric Holder AND Al Bacon-Sharpton AND Barack Hussein Obummer this case is JUST THE SAME as the White Power Structure breaking down the door and shooting a young black father in the face while he’s playing tiddly winks on the floor with his 5-year-old little girl. JUST LIKE IT.

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    “Probably none. The extermination camps in the East were liberated by the Soviets. Hence, the Holocaust was stopped not by Anglo-Saxon freedom (America and Britain) but by Stalinist tyranny.” – syon

    Allied forces liberated several concentration camps. Read your fucking history. It’s even in pop history: Easy Company of the 506th PIR, 101st Airborne, liberated one such camp. It was shown in “Band of Brothers.”

    You may also recall that the Soviets were originally allied with the Third Reich, split Poland, and committed quite a few atrocities of their own (see: the Katyn Forest Massacre, where they murdered over 20,000 Poles). But those atrocities weren’t against Jews, so I guess they don’t matter.

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  122. Jefferson
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    “I very much doubt Jews would like the USA to go from 88 percent white Christian to 88 percent black. To a group with their history, it is far better for the USA and other Euro nations to have no dominant factions. As Ben Wattenberg once said, a more diverse America is safer for the Jews.”

    Were there dead Jewish bodies on every street corner in America before the disastrous 1965 immigration bill ? Last time I checked Jim Crow anti-racial miscegenation laws did not apply to Jews, meaning Jews could legally marry White Gentiles because Jews are legally classified as White.

    There were no Jews only water fountains or Jews only restrooms in America pre-1965.

    There was controversy when the Jew William Shatner kissed a Black woman on screen in the 1960s, but there was never any controversy when he kissed White Gentile women on screen back in the days because William Shatner was and still is seen as a White man.

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    At least we got to watch masked black rioters stoning Chris Hayes. “Thank you sir! May I have another?!”

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  124. awesome
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    I’m always amazed, no shocked, at how willing so many people are to side with power.
    I know every ‘dictatorial’ regime in history had a fair amount of widespread popular support, despite what our current narrative tells us. In fact pretending that people everywhere who aren’t living in a democracy are all secretly seething is a destructive myth. It blinds us to just how willing the vast majority of people are to live under a system that is tyrannical – provided they feel that they are on the side of their tyrant. The idea that’s its the natural state of man to yearn for a just, arms length polity that seeks to uphold universal laws showing neither fear nor favour.. is just not true. All too many people are willing to side with power, are happy for it to be wielded unilaterally, provided there is some ‘other’ that the person can feel that they are superior to, to use it against.
    Thanks to twitter, comments sections etc. nowadays this ugly truth is much more visible. But it’s pretty damn disheartening.

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  125. VDARE has jumped off the wagon on the coverage of Ferguson.

    I saw Nicholas Stix and Federale…and both were just taking sides with the white cop without any thought.

    These type of situations VDARE should simply wait a week until all the information comes out and then write a big article with the facts.

    Steve should have an open thread so I can cuss out the race mixing Jefferson and theorize.

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  126. Cookies
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    Actually, a lot has changed. Did you actually read the NY Times article you cited? They admit that there was “a struggle between the officer, Darren Wilson, and the teenager, Michael Brown. Officer Wilson was inside his patrol car at the time, while Mr. Brown, who was unarmed, was leaning in through an open window.”

    Not what Dorian Johnson said.

    “Many witnesses also agreed on what happened next: Officer Wilson’s firearm went off inside the car, Mr. Brown ran away, the officer got out of his car and began firing toward Mr. Brown, and then Mr. Brown stopped, turned around and faced the officer.”

    Well, not quite, but progress. At least it’s better than turning around with his hands up in the air, pleading, “Don’t Shoot!”

    Soon the Times will ease in the fact that Brown gave Wilson an “orbital blowout fracture.”

    Yeah, stuff changes.

    Meanwhile, there is no special prosecutor, as in the Zimmerman railroading. The grand jury will find nothing.

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  127. Anonymous
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    (e.g. there were in fact US Jews who profited from slavery. Whether or not they were actual slave owners is an entirely different matter)

    There were many Jewish slave owners and slave traders. See Aaron Lopez for an example of one slave trader.

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    Would think that given the US WASP history toward US Jews that they would much rather prefer to live under a WASP dominated nation than a multicultural nation where everyone will suffer and it will not end well for anyone except the individual group who wields the balance of power.

    Jews see as much a threat in Gentile love as in Gentile animosity. The Anglo Saxons are an attractive group and a an assimilationist threat. It is important to therefore degrade their power and position.

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    Allied forces liberated several concentration camps. Read your fucking history. It’s even in pop history: Easy Company of the 506th PIR, 101st Airborne, liberated one such camp. It was shown in “Band of Brothers.”

    Allied forces liberated zero extermination camps–none. Read my fricking post more carefully.

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  130. Jefferson
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    A few minutes ago a White Fox News reporter named Mike Tobin was reporting from Ferguson and a bunch of Black yoofs behind him were throwing up gangs signs for the camera.

    What a lovely and pleasant demographic they are.

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  131. viking
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    the guy in NYC was on tape resisting arrest although he knew he was in bad shape 400 lbs diabetes heart disease asthma but he telling the cops who ask him nicly to turn arround that hes going to “end this right here” sure enough he did
    he was not in a choke hold the cop clearly never locks his hands in fact the guy is able to speak and enunciate clearly throughout thr tape he dies from his own weight and a couple of cops on top holding him while being cuffed – tragic but stupid just like trayvon and this other idiot and the resy of the 85IQ idiots

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  132. Jefferson
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    “At least we got to watch masked black rioters stoning Chris Hayes. “Thank you sir! May I have another?!””

    Is there any White male who works at MSNBC who isn’t a beta male ? He is what the African American community would call a b itch.

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  133. viking
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    no doubt but whats the point

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  134. Jefferson
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    “What’s with the “Hussein Obama”? People are trying to have an intelligent conversation here and you’re turning it into a drunken rant in the parking lot of Hooters.”

    Hussein is his legal middle name. So don’t blame me, blame his Kenyan Muslim father.

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    The Nazis established the extermination camps in Poland where the European Jewish community was most concentrated. There were 3 million Jews in Poland, almost 2 million more in Ukraine and Belarus, 650,000 in Hungary and 300,000 in the Baltic states before WWII. There were fewer than 500,000 Jews in Germany by the time the war was under way. Poland is east of Germany and close to the former USSR, so the Soviets were the ones to liberate the extermination camps.

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  136. Steve,

    We need to have a conversation about when fairness applies.

    Too many people are claiming that certain things are not fair but then they seem willing to lie through their teeth about what happened in the interactions between Brown and the cop.

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  137. Jefferson
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    “I do carry (legally, of course), but I am under no illusion that my travails would be over the moment I put down a violent aggressor who happens to be black. I have no doubt that I would be instantly portrayed as a trigger happy yellow racist intent on murdering blacks.”

    If you as an Asian killed a Black male in self defense, maybe Ice Cube would come out retirement and record another anti-Asian rap song.

    When Ice Cube recorded an anti-Asian rap song during the 1992 Los Angeles riots, nobody in the liberal media labeled him a racist because supposedly Blacks are not capable of being racist against Asians. Only White people are capable of being racist against Asians. That is the Liberal mantra.

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  138. Anonymous
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    Not all concentration camps were exclusively extermination camps, though in many cases tens or even hundreds of thousands of people died there. Places like Treblinka in Poland were established expressly to be extermination camps.

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  139. Uh, yes…but as the person was going off on some tangent about how Jews and everyone else will benefit from a multicultural society where whites are no longer in charge, I was taking the high road and the positive route so as not to “inflame” the charges of insensitivity, etc.

    Jews also fought on the side of the Confederacy and served in Jefferson Davis’s cabinet.

    Alabaman born and bred baseball media guy Mel Allen, of course, was Jewish as another prominent example.

    On a lighter note: Texan Anna Nicole Smith’s estate just lost her final bid to gold dig away ER…attempt to obtain millions from her ex-husband’s estate. Has it really been nearly 20yrs since she first started filling lawsuits back around 1995 to gold dig away all that moolah? Really? Seriously? I mean, she gave him the best 14 MONTHS of her life! And….THIS is the thanks she gets in return???

    Ah, 1995. Government shut down and the OJ Trial; back then, there were only threats of an LA riot should the former USC and NFL star not receive justice.

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  140. Jefferson
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    Major race riots seems to always happen when a Democrat is in The White House. Lyndon B. Johnson in 1968, Bill Clinton in 1992, and Hussein Obama in 2014.

    The Bantus feel more empowered when a politician with a D next to his name is running the country.

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  141. “I’m always amazed, no shocked, at how willing so many people are to side with power.”

    When a mountain-sized Negro is running toward you to whomp you, ‘corporate fascism’ is the last thing on your mind.

    If a Negro is climbing through your window to rape you, what’s on your mind? Passages from ‘Road to Serfdom’? Okay, try to recall the passages while the Negro is ravaging you.

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  142. Ed
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    Coates went to Howard University, which is a private school that receives a quarter of its funding from the federal government.

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  143. Cookies
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    Well, this doesn’t change: World War T marches on:

    “when I first encountered the person who would become my husband, he was wearing makeup and a purple dress. We met at a gathering hosted by a mutual friend, a psychotherapist and expert on transgenderism.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-straight-woman-married-to-a-woman-it-hasnt-been-easy/?tid=pm_pop

    America. Freak nation.

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  144. “It is notable, is it not, that while dozens of concentration camps were LIBERATED BY American soldiers, only the Soviets discovered “extermination camps.”

    BECAUSE THE MASS KILLINGS TOOK PLACE IN THE EAST THAT SOVIETS CAME TO OCCUPY.

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  145. Anonymous
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    #92 “Wilson does not appear to have been injured..”.
    Does he or doesn’t he have a fractured eye socket? Yes or no? What kind of stupidity are you attempting to indulge us in?

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  146. dcite
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    ” Whether or not they were actual slave owners is an entirely different matter). ”

    In slave owning states, about 4% of whites owned slaves (I’ve also read 2%), while 40% of Jews owned slaves, of those who lived in slave states. Probably simply because they were more likely to have more money. Point is, if they had money, they had slaves. They had no moral scruples about it, in fact, Jews were running much of the slave trade. I personally don’t hold them accountable. They couldn’t force any Christians to go along with the plan. It was the bad choice of a tinypercentage of whatever constituted the corporate elite of that day. The same mentality as is stealing from us today.

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    Would think that given the US WASP history toward US Jews that they would much rather prefer to live under a WASP dominated nation than a multicultural nation where everyone will suffer and it will not end well for anyone except the individual group who wields the balance of power.

    ————–

    Big Jews prefer being vanguard in multi-culti nation over being subordinate to WASPs in uni-culture nation. Makes sense. Would you and your religio/ethnic group prefer otherwise? Little Jews are alienated enough that they are disappearing via mixed marriages.

    Monotheism and Jeffersonian democracy are enemies. The Big Jews have solved this conundrum but at the cost of probably losing Judaism itself. Not a good bargain.

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  148. Cookies
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    Since the subject is the Gray Lady, these two citations are not O/T.

    I thought this OpEd piece was gonna stink, but it’s actually quite good. Ignore the cr*p extolling Pseudocon drivel about Ferguson and look at the picture Edsall paints: we had bad riots in the 1960s but blacks’ position relative to whites improved, because the economy expanded. That’s all over, the economy is contracting, and we can look forward to many more Fergusons. I think he’s on to something and it’s really sobering. This will happen again and again – how much more of this can we take before a dam bursts? Of course, no mention of the “I” word. That would be a bridge too far.

    http://tinyurl.com/l3t598v

    Then, miraculously, a sensible article describing why Mo’Ne Davis is not a harbinger of future Amazons, and changes nothing.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/sports/being-a-girl-gives-mone-davis-an-edge-at-little-league-world-series.html

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  149. http://www.vdare.com/articles/no-facts-no-peace-in-ferguson-you-dont-want-to-end-up-looking-like-rich-lowry

    Are the news media in the reporting business or are they competing with Hollywood?

    Soon after the incident….

    News media: mountain-sized negro who wouldn’t hurt a flea(thus surpassing the Negro who luvs a little white mouse)…

    Alternative sources: mountain sized negro who relished hurting store clerks.

    News media: poor innocent kid shot by ‘racist’ white cop while surrendering.

    Alternative sources: thug-kid roughing up small cop and acting crazy.

    News media: peaceful protesters marching against police brutality like old Civil Rights Movement.

    Alternative sources: punks gone wild looting and robbing.

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  150. Anonymous
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    Some Jews American Jews prefer Gentile love to Gentile animosity and are in the process of assimilating. The ultra-Orthodox don’t care that much about the loss of secular Jews because they are increasing their own numbers with large families. It’s only a subset of secular Jews that fights assimilation, and much of their effort is directed within the Jewish community – encouraging Jewish affiliation and discouraging intermarriage. The American Jewish community isn’t monolithic.

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  151. Robinson
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    Nothing like a racial incident to reveal the prevalence of stranger altruism and proposition nationalism in the white race. Kinship altruism has been well explained, but I’m puzzled by the “stranger” version, is it possible that it allows strangers to get close enough to be exploited for their labor, or maybe just to keep the population from becoming too inbred?

    The white stranger altruists are obsessing over the tiniest breaches of protocol by the police, but they want us to disregard a serious breach of criminal law, robbery (not to mention possible assault), by Brown. This tendency to hold “your own” to a higher standard is just outright bizarre.
    Is any other race so self loathing? Why would it be selected for?

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    “Frankly, when reading a news story on Yahoo, I am periodically shocked by how often the readers have begun to sound like they are reading Steve’s blog…I am sure other commentators here have had the same experience. True this is not always the case on every article, but it happens frequently enough for me to notice.”

    I’ve noticed that too. When I first heard about this, I thought “here we go again”, esp when I was told “my people” Holder would be getting involved. Roll eyes. So I looked on mainstream news sites like CNN, Yahoo, and some others. Over and over, the comments were far more like they are here, and often very funny. Nobody’s fooled. Well, I guess some are, but usually they’re the kind you expect to be fooled. One thing though: the alternative press has dwelt a lotover the past few years on abuses by cops (whom I tend to respect myself, despite having recently received a ticket) and the increasing militarization of the police force. Many articles have been written on this subject, and most of the victims have not been black, but white or yellow or brown. So if they back peddle on this particular case because the dead guy is black, and admit the dead one was in the wrong, they run the risk of being hypocritical. The people I’m thinking of don’t worry too much about being “racist.” But they want to be credible and not hypocritical. So that’s why I’m seeing articles about police brutality on a web site that had been open minded enough to interview David Duke (not that they agree but they let him speak). It’s a trade off.

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  153. Jefferson
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    Hussein Obama currently has a 86 percent approval rating from Blacks, according to Gallup. That is lower than the usual 95 percent approval rating that he gets from them, lol.

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  154. Anonymous
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    Kinship altruism has been well explained, but I’m puzzled by the “stranger” version, is it possible that it allows strangers to get close enough to be exploited for their labor, or maybe just to keep the population from becoming too inbred?

    Perhaps it is a kind of Stockholm Syndrome. White stranger altruists signal their cooperativeness with and submission to power this way.

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  155. anon
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    “Still waiting for you to name some prominent and influential Shermans who are also for immigration restriction.”

    David Frum writes at The Atlantic immigration restrictionist stuff. Mark Levin has been extremely vocal against the Rubio-Schumer abomination. Bill Kristol turned out against this bill.

    Also, Scaife and Thiel never actually said anything about immigration as far as I’m aware. This is something that we determined by looking at where their money goes.

    Go away.

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    “Hussein is his legal middle name. So don’t blame me, blame his Kenyan Muslim father.”

    His name was Barry Dunham Soetoro. Was it really a “legal middle name?” Could have been decide in 2004, when they came out with the article about him being a senator born in Kenya. Article was scrubbed by 2009. Who the hell knows anything about that person. He didn’t even use Obama until adulthood. I think the people who picked him to be president (they are always picked ahead of time) thought it would be a great joke, and another way to humiliate the country by having such a ridiculous name with the title American President, in front of it. It really is a ridiculous name somehow. You hear it and just want to laugh, like is this really happening?
    And did that Kenyan guy really look like his father? No resemblance whatsoever, and I’m really good at picking out family resemblances where others don’t see it, even in “mixed” people. Check out communist Frank Marshall Davis, friend and neighbor to the Dunhams. Must more likely candidate.

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  157. telling
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    I don’t think an overwhelming majority of whites “aping the narrative.” I think that hundreds of trolls are hired to make it look that way. I happen to know something about this stuff works, and that is done, believe. There are organizations that have budgets for that kind of thing. It’s also done with other subjects.

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  158. Jefferson
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    Next year’s White privilege conference should be held in Ferguson, Missouri instead of Madison, Wisconsin.

    Ferguson is after all ground zero for evil Demonic White privilege. Blacks in Ferguson are treated like the Jews were in Auschwitz.

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  159. CCR
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    You missed the distinction he was making between “concentration” camps and “extermination” camps.

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  160. That’s all over, the economy is contracting, and we can look forward to many more Fergusons.

    This!

    Yes, the economy is contracting and we can look forward to conflict over access to resources. These is just no money left for racial spoils.

    And, it is going to get ugly. More ugly than you can imagine.

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    I have seen and treated numerous orbital blowout fractures, usually from motor vehicle accidents. It is a significant injury that would require a good stiff punch to the face, not just a slap or a shove.

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    Is any other race so self loathing? Why would it be selected for?

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    You should ask Whiskey. He has some good, even if one-sided, explanations for this.

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    “That’s why Obama wouldn’t dare go to Ferguson and urge blacks to stop rioting. He’s afraid he’d be booed by the blacks there, or laughed at, or ignored. He’s useless when he’s not exhorting adoring white liberals and he knows it. He has absolutely no physical courage, ”

    Whatever one may think (or not) of the long gone Robert Kennedy, him standing in front of a crowd of blacks in Cleveland (I think it was) delivering the news that MLK had been shot, was an act of courage. Whenever I see that clip, my breath almost catches, I feel for him. He was obviously nervous. And no, I was not a fan. Had I been old enough to vote, it would probably have been for McCarthy. Oh, I don’t think he really had anything to fear physically at that point–probably all kinds of security. However, it must have been hard in that climate to do that and he didn’t have to. I can’t imagine Obama standing in front of other blacks and delivering controversial news without a teleprompter and a quick getaway planned.

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  164. Jefferson
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    Stereotypes Asian people have about White people.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIdg4Uuuyzs

    Weird that The Fung Brothers stereotype White people as being irresponsible out of control spenders who are not conservative with their money, that stereotype is usually associated with Blacks.

    After all look at all of the Black rappers and Black sports athletes who go from the 1 percent back to the Black underclass.

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    I was taught about St. Augustine when I was elementary school age in Asia

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    Catholic school in Asia, right?
    No surprise there.

    NE Asian education is very underrated. Way too much snarky Western commentary
    about the rigidity of Asian education. If they only knew how much more advanced the
    average Asian high school kid is compared to US kid, especially in math.

    St. Augustine is not known or read in the public schools in US. The first time I heard
    of him was in French class taught by a Catholic teacher. “City of God”, even the title
    is non grata. American atheists and Protestants dig black ignorance of Catholicism.
    It’s down.

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    Monotheism and Jeffersonian democracy are enemies.

    As are Gentile love and acceptance.

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    BECAUSE THE MASS KILLINGS TOOK PLACE IN THE EAST THAT SOVIETS CAME TO OCCUPY.

    It’s interesting that the mass killings didn’t take place in the areas that the Allies came to occupy.

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  168. Jefferson
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    ” I can’t imagine Obama standing in front of other blacks and delivering controversial news without a teleprompter and a quick getaway planned.”

    Why would Hussein Obama be afraid of delivering controversial news to his sons ? They would not hurt a hair on his head. He is their father. His approval rating in the Black community is still significantly high at 86 percent.

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  169. Anon
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    From civil rights to civil riots.

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  170. Cookies
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    “And, it is going to get ugly. More ugly than you can imagine.”

    I can imagine. What makes you think I can’t? The things I’ve seen.

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  171. I imagine that if there was anything interesting in his rap sheet, the police would have released it by now.

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  172. Cookies
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    It’s interesting to note who hasn’t spoken up about this. When Trayvon happened, everyone tweeted.

    Chris Rock? What’s he said?
    Chappelle?
    Lawrence Fishburne?
    Morgan Freeman?
    Skip Gates?
    Danny Glover? (OK, kind of a has-been, but….)
    Don Cheadle?
    Etc.

    Sure, Spike Lee’s blown his stack, but that’s to be expected. Other than him, I can’t think of a famous black man or woman who has said anything. Corrections welcome.

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    God, I wish that wasn’t all true but is. Cultural Marxism has won. I NEVER speak of my political leanings bc I have learned how unfair Leftists are. I would never consider ruining someone of holding their beliefs against them. Not so the Left.

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  174. Luke Lea
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    Watching night street scenes in Ferguson on Vice News, I am reminded of this old song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUO8ScYVeDo

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    I have to defend Coates on the Saint Augustine issue. He probably intuitively sensed that Augustine is either just name dropped by white people to fill space, or as a helpless argument from authority that doesn’t add anything of substance to the debate.

    Here is the relevant quote:

    Jeff: But instead of asking you a version of that question again, let me ask the Augustinian question: Let’s say you’re in the mall with me, or another friend, and a psychopathic shooter is approaching us, AR-15 in hand. In this situation, my life is at stake, as well as yours. I’ll ask the question again: Would you want a gun in hand to help keep us alive, and to keep the strangers around you — each one a human being created in the image of God (I know you lean atheist, but you get my point) — alive as well?

    TNC: Forgive me, I didn’t understand your question. (I actually don’t know who Saint Augustine is.) I think it is totally moral to use violence to protect yourself and to protect your family. I did not understand that that was ever at issue. For instance, if someone breaks into my house, it is totally moral for me to do whatever I need to do to protect my home and family. Period. That’s been the law of my life, for as long as I can remember. The second part of your question –when is it immoral to not respond with violence — is harder for me, mostly because I haven’t really thought about it. I didn’t really grow up around pacifism. The notion of self-defense as immoral was simply never a consideration.

    As we can see, the Augustine name-drop was completely superfluous and the question of self-defense was not pioneered by Augustine anyway.

    I presume that Jeff the warmonger Goldbergs interest in Augustine rests solely on the Just War doctrine that is commonly used to discard the embarrassing and suicidal “turn the other cheek” dictum.

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  176. Jefferson
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    “Catholic school in Asia, right?”

    Maybe Twinkie is Filipino.

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  177. A
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    Only to idiots.

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    As we can see, the Augustine name-drop was completely superfluous and the question of self-defense was not pioneered by Augustine anyway.

    I totally agree. It’s not even clear from his hypo what the “Augustinian question” is. I wonder if he himself could even summarize it accurately and I doubt his hypo reflects it with fidelity.

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    I imagine that if there was anything interesting in his rap sheet, the police would have released it by now.

    It is my understanding that juvenile records are sealed by law. Given the political climate and reaction to the release of the store robbery video, I think a clearly illegal leak of juvenile records would be regarded as inadvisable even by police authorities.

    Brown was only 18, so he wouldn’t have had a lot of time to accumulate an adult rap sheet. I’ve read that charges may be pending against him in a neighboring county, but if those are preliminary, we might not expect them to be highlighted either.

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  180. Contrarian
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    @Seneka, dcite:
    Only a fraction of readers do read comments. And of those, only a fraction does bother to comment themselves. And of those, a small percentage write most of the comments. A rule of thumb is the 90-9-1 rule. To top that of, lots of people read only about a small number of subjects in the first place. Our thought crimes and hate facts are spreading, but most people are probably still mostly influenced by headlines and the intended narrative.

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  181. Anonymous
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    I think anyone who went a catholic school, at least up until the 90′s, would have learnt about St Augustine. However outside the catholic, and some Protestant, systems there is a profound lack of knowledge in general about important religious ideas & figures in western civilisation. At University I often encountered, otherwise capable students who were unaware of Augustine or Thomas Aquinas or even of the basic religious knowledge necessary to understand pre modern art and literature. Whether you believe in God or not western civilisation cannot simply be separated from Christianity and all students would benefit from a better understanding of this point; taught simply as history rather than religion. I don’t have a very high opinion of TNC but I am not sure his lack of knowledge is that exceptional especially if you compare him to other non graduating students at not especially rigorous colleges.

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  182. J Hanson
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    Steve I like this new militant tact you’re taking.

    Some of you need to realize history isn’t linear and it takes one event to upend the whole applecart. I don’t think whites are going to be some sort of oppressed minority because SWPLs are content to live on their knees as long as they have access to exotic foods and gay electronic toys. Buck up and keep your shot group tight. Times they are a changin’.

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  183. Jefferson
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    “It’s interesting to note who hasn’t spoken up about this. When Trayvon happened, everyone tweeted.

    Chris Rock? What’s he said?
    Chappelle?
    Lawrence Fishburne?
    Morgan Freeman?
    Skip Gates?
    Danny Glover? (OK, kind of a has-been, but….)
    Don Cheadle?
    Etc.

    Sure, Spike Lee’s blown his stack, but that’s to be expected. Other than him, I can’t think of a famous black man or woman who has said anything. Corrections welcome.”

    I am curious to know what the crackhead Dennis Rodman and that Gremlin Lil Wayne have to say about Michael Brown, White privilege, and Ferguson, Missouri.

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  184. Anonymous
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    @Anonymous

    Only to idiots.

    It’s just a coincidence, I guess.

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  185. Stumpy Pepys
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    That would be pizza with lox & collard greens

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  186. “Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me.”

    Well, yes, this is a big part of the problem, isn’t it? The cops are a law unto themselves, and they are out of control.

    This cop is saying in the Washington Post that he’s entitled to shoot you, taser you, pepper-spray you, strike you with a baton and/or throw you to the ground if you argue, call him names, call him a racist pig, or threaten to sue him. Or at least he’s saying that if he shoots you, it’s your own fault for talking back. Why do so many people seem to believe it’s fine that our cops think this way? And why isn’t it obvious to everyone that if you hire a bunch of aggressive 23-year olds and give jobs where they’re allowed to boss people around, beat them up, lock them up and ruin their lives for not kowtowing deeply enough; you immerse them in a culture where it’s considered impermissible to turn in your co-workers for their misconduct, no matter how egregious (“snitches get stitches” is as much the creed of the police as of the black underclass); and you make it impossible to fire them; then you’re going to find that a lot of them turn into nasty, brutal, out-of-control thugs?

    What was the sequence of events here again? The cop is driving in his cruiser. He sees two teenagers walking in the middle of the street. He blips his siren and says, “Get out of the street.” Isn’t that what’s supposed to happen?

    So how did it come to pass that his cruiser was stopped in the street and the teenager was “leaning into it?” Here are two versions from Newsweek:

    “According to the account of the St. Louis County police, Wilson attempted to get out of his car and Brown pushed him back inside…

    “But eye witnesses, including Johnson, tell a different version of events. According to Johnson, after Officer Wilson told the two men to get on the sidewalk, he slammed his brakes, put his car into reverse, and attempted to open the door of his police car. The door hit Brown and then bounced shut again.”

    Those stories sound the same to me, except that the police aren’t telling us about the part where the cop slammed on his brakes and put his car into reverse, and the eye witnesses are omitting the part where Brown cursed at the cop and called him a racist pig (or other words of similar meaning). Which according to our friend in the Washington Post gave the cop free license to do as he pleased from that point on. Cops don’t jump out of their cruisers to confront a criminal (standing a few feet from the door) who they think they’re about to arrest for robbing convenience stores. They jump out this way to get in somebody’s face and give him a hard time for talking back.

    And what’s this business about the cop – after shooting (or missing?) the kid from point-blank range from inside the cruiser – getting out of the car and firing at the fleeing kid? Believe it or not, cops aren’t supposed to do that.

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  187. Do you think any of that would deter the cops from leaking the records if they thought it would help them? I don’t.

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  188. Anonymous
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    It’s not a coincidence, as has been pointed out to you the exterminations camps were in Eastern Poland. In 1944 when soviet forces arrived, the nazis had already started to destroy evidence and move corpses westward. However the Russian forces advanced much faster than German high command had anticipated and the territory containing the camps was overrun. There were NO Western Allied forces in Poland at this stage. Moreover the fact of the existence of the extermination camps is not denied by any reputable figure.

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  189. Jefferson
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    How come you never see Asian American male versions of Michael Brown and Oscar Grant ? Maybe the docile nature of the average Asian American male makes them on average less likely to get in a aggressive confrontation with the police. After all the average Asian American male does not have as much testosterone rage as the average African American male.

    Also maybe its an Asian culture thing to respect authority.

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  190. No, I don’t think so….

    Neither Frum nor Kristol have given their money to organizations that actively lobby Congress vs Amnesty, Dream Act, etc.

    Also, lets not so quickly forget that both Frum and Kristol orignally supported (wholeheartedly too) Bush’s 07 Amnesty bills, which for some reason, closely resemble the things that Obama is backing.

    GEORGE SOROS. BIIIIG time supporter of Open Borders, is he not?

    SHELDON ADELSON. Another big time supporter of open borders.

    Hm…

    I mean its bad enough that some within the Tribe were once slaveowners but now in this era to be soooo prominently for open borders (when polled, it’s the whole Ellis Island mystique, etc). Wow. Not so encouraging for US’s future.

    BOOM

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  191. Matt
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    Neither Frum nor Kristol are against immigration in general or have principled opposition to immigration. Nor do they think that the people, states, localities should be allowed to determine immigration policy. They’re opposed to aspects of immigration policy such as amnesty for political and ideological reasons.

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  192. Anonymous
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    In 1944 when soviet forces arrived, the nazis had already started to destroy evidence and move corpses westward.

    I hadn’t known that the Germans had transported corpses westward to hide the evidence. By what means were they moved? Were these the corpses from the gas chambers?

    the territory containing the camps was overrun. There were NO Western Allied forces in Poland at this stage.

    All the extermination camps ended up under Soviet control. How dependent were we on Soviet historiography for our understanding of the camps?

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  193. David C
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    Off topic, but under the “nothing ever changes” header. Deborah Lipstadt, on “anti-Semitism” in Europe. . . .

    Why Jews are Worried
    By Deborah Lipstadt

    I am often asked by fellow Jews about contemporary manifestations of anti-Semitism, particularly in Europe. “Is this just like 1939? Are we on the cusp of another Holocaust?”

    The differences between then and now are legion. When there is an outbreak of anti-Semitism today, officials condemn it. This is light-years away from the 1930s and 1940s, when governments were not only silent but complicit. Memory also distinguishes the present from previous events. Now, in contrast to the 1930s, we know matters can escalate. Jews today are resolute in their determination: “Never again.”

    And despite all this I wonder if I am too sanguine.

    Jews are worrying. It is time for those who value a free, democratic, open, multicultural and enlightened society to do so, too. This is not another Holocaust, but it’s bad enough.

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    Umm…The Virginia Tech shooter? The guy who just murdered the girl in San Diego (I think half asian)? The crazy fuck up in Northern California? The Asian Head Chopper?

    Asian males have their own form of dangerous psychology. A lot of murders have been done by Asian males towards white females. Watch for it on DailyMail.

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    Nor do they think that the people, states, localities should be allowed to determine immigration policy.

    Um, who do Frum and Kristol think should be allowed to determine immigration policy for Israel? And are they in principle opposed to immigration in general into Israel?

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    “It’s time anti-semites to admit the “Jews opened the West’s” borders is a lie started by Kevin MacDonald…”

    Maybe it’s time to stop shrieking and stop painting with that old PC-brush that’s meant to intellectually bully and paint issues that are not resolved as already being black and white, good and evil. I’ve never read Kevin MacDonald’s books, but his web site is at http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/.

    He seems to be upfront about his position and trying to be objective about it. IIUC, his position is that Jewish ethnicity/religion/something is a group evolutionary strategy. That seems a simple and straightforward proposition. I could well believe it, even if I don’t know if there even actually are such things as group evolutionary strategies (after all, “animals” like hydroza are really colonies, so there might be instances of a strategy without implying that such a strategy is a universal).

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  197. awesome
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    “I’m always amazed, no shocked, at how willing so many people are to side with power.”

    When a mountain-sized Negro is running toward you to whomp you, ‘corporate fascism’ is the last thing on your mind.

    If a Negro is climbing through your window to rape you, what’s on your mind? Passages from ‘Road to Serfdom’? Okay, try to recall the passages while the Negro is ravaging you.

    Lol. I think you’ve misinterpreted where I think the power lies. I’m rooting for the underdog in this. And the underdog certainly doesn’t weigh 300lbs and have a taste for cigarillos, and the full backing of the media, government and every ‘right thinking’ individual…

    The underdog is the Korean sitting on the roof of his store with a bolt action rifle defending his own property because the authorities won’t. The underdog is the militarised police who are armed to the teeth, but incapable of using force against the protected class without losing their jobs. But the real underdog is the white store owner who doesn’t dare climb onto the roof of his store to defend it because the powerless militarized police would have no hesitation killing him.. and no media, government or right thinking individual would blame them..

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  198. awesome
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    “I’m always amazed, no shocked, at how willing so many people are to side with power.”

    When a mountain-sized Negro is running toward you to whomp you, ‘corporate fascism’ is the last thing on your mind.

    If a Negro is climbing through your window to rape you, what’s on your mind? Passages from ‘Road to Serfdom’? Okay, try to recall the passages while the Negro is ravaging you.

    Lol. I think you’ve misinterpreted where I think the power lies. I’m rooting for the underdog in this. And the underdog certainly doesn’t weigh 300lbs and have a taste for cigarillos, and the full backing of the media, government and every ‘right thinking’ individual…

    The underdog is the Korean sitting on the roof of his store with a bolt action rifle defending his own property because the authorities won’t. The underdog is the militarised police who are armed to the teeth, but incapable of using force against the protected class without losing their jobs. But the real underdog is the white store owner who doesn’t dare climb onto the roof of his store to defend it because the powerless militarized police would have no hesitation killing him.. and no media, government or right thinking individual would blame them..

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  199. Bliss
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    Jews see as much a threat in Gentile love as in Gentile animosity. The Anglo Saxons are an attractive group and a an assimilationist threat

    Actually smart jewish boys are nowadays running after asian girls instead of blonde WASPSs. Many WASPs themselves are doing the same. Another harbinger of the chinese century…

    Attractiveness of WASPS is fading with the relative decline of their status both nationally and internationally.

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  200. Why are so many people giving flak to the Indian store clerk who dealt with Mr. Brown before his untimely demise? This guy went out of his way to confront a thug who was literally more than twice his size. He showed a lot of courage protecting his business and his pride. How many white store clerks would do such a thing nowadays? Not many.

    And what’s with all this hubbub about being a purveyor of beer and blunts for blacks? Indians have been running convenience stores in white-majority areas for decades. Let’s face it. North Americans of all stripes love junk food and overpriced shiny garbage which can be bought quickly and easily at the local convenience store. That Indian shopkeeper is merely riding the wave of supply and demand.

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  201. Yeah, where are you (iSteve) coming from, with that “gun goes off hurting and no doubt scaring him”?

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  202. Steve Sailer
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    Frum and Kristol are reasonably sound on American immigration policy. They should be praised for this.

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    Oh alright, Steve. If they are indeed immigration hawks for America, I have no problem praising them for it. I haven’t seen enough of Frum to be certain. He seems only a recent convert. I know nothing of Kristol, admittedly.

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  204. Bliss
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    As Ben Wattenberg once said, a more diverse America is safer for the Jews.

    A diverse America is probably safer for all minorities. Most strikingly, blacks as the bogeyman of the white majority makes America so much safer for jews, asians, hispanics etc. If it wasn’t for blacks taking the brunt of white hatred and prejudice jews, asians or hispanics would become the target.

    As you pointed out in your excellent post jews cannot forget forget the pogroms, expulsions, ghettoization, Inquisition, Holocaust inflicted on them by white gentiles. Asians cannot forget the mass lynchings of chinese, the anti-chinese riots, the burning down of chinatowns, the incarceration of japanese in concentration camps, the Chinese Exclusion Act etc which all took place in pre-Civil Rights America. Hispanics have their own litany of grievances.

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  205. Jefferson
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    “Umm…The Virginia Tech shooter? The guy who just murdered the girl in San Diego (I think half asian)? The crazy fuck up in Northern California? The Asian Head Chopper?

    Asian males have their own form of dangerous psychology. A lot of murders have been done by Asian males towards white females. Watch for it on DailyMail.”

    If Asians on average are not less violent than Blacks, shouldn’t cities like Honolulu and San Francisco with it’s large Asian populations have a similar per capita murder rate as Black cities like New Orleans and Detroit ?

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  206. They are at the present time, uh, yes…were they always consistent on this issue?

    No.

    Meaning, they could conceivably change and shift their positions again whichever way their personal political cant goes? (e.g. those neocons whom they follow, respect, etc?)

    Yes.

    Didn’t Frum work for W in his administration? Trying to remember all that advice he gave the President to go vs supporting McCain’s Amnesty during those yrs. Nope, can’t recall reading that Frum was front and center on the immigration issue when this last occurred.

    Like it or not, within conservatism at large, the likes of Peter Brimelow has been a constant consistent voice on immigration and for quite a few decades at that.

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    Actually smart jewish boys are nowadays running after asian girls instead of blonde WASPSs.…

    Attractiveness of WASPS is fading with the relative decline of their status both nationally and internationally.

    Interesting. It would appear then that Jewish Zionists would have an incentive to undermine the attractiveness and status of Anglo-Saxons–in order to prevent assimilation. The decline of position of Anglo-Saxons does seem to be cheered on, or gloated over, by a lot of Jews. And Jews do tend to denigrate Anglo-Saxons. Is that, by the way, why you like to refer to them as “WASPS”?

    Steve, maybe there’s more going on here than grandaddy not getting into an Anglo-Saxon country club (even as Gentiles were barred from access to Jewish institutions).

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    But it’s hard for Jewish intellectuals like Frum and Kristol to go against the ethnic line, so they deserve more credit for their independence of mind.

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  209. David Frum has spent the last several years bashing the Tea Party as “extremists” and racists. He also supports gay marriage, of course. He attacked Michele Bachmann for being a “Christian Extremist,” and of course he supports gun control for the usual “guns are scary!” reasons.

    As for Kristol, he has spent his entire career pushing America into idiotic, fruitless, endless wars.

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    My uncle Al (PFC) visited Dachau in 1945. General Eisenhower instructed his troops to write home about what they’d seen so it would be lost to history.

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    Coates is the black Beck.

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  212. But the most fascinating part is how The Hennessy (pronounced Tah-Nuh-Hah-See), being an ultimate connoisseur of the All Black Thangs Considered dominium, failed to recognize that Gober wasn’t just name-dropping some another dead white man while invoking an African fellow whose teeny-weeny contribution to the world – as we knew it – consists of drawing the doctrinal blueprint on which next thousand years of Western Europe has been built…or could this be a simple case of the college-dropout hack reimagining an exclusively Nubian Pantheron in which there s no space left for a Numidian Privilege ?

    Here is the real relevant quote:

    Gober:” C’mon Coates, are you really saying that you’ve never heard of City of God, yet somehow you landed a gig at the MIT as a visiting professor?”

    The Hennessy:“Well, maybe I ain’t read a book ,but at least I saw the movie….and ….so what, mofo – last time I checked you wasn’t served in the Marines either, but nobody had to aks you twice to join IDF’s Pelican Bay Aufseherin company!”

    Crickets

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  213. Jefferson
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    “A diverse America is probably safer for all minorities. Most strikingly, blacks as the bogeyman of the white majority makes America so much safer for jews, asians, hispanics etc. If it wasn’t for blacks taking the brunt of white hatred and prejudice jews, asians or hispanics would become the target.

    As you pointed out in your excellent post jews cannot forget forget the pogroms, expulsions, ghettoization, Inquisition, Holocaust inflicted on them by white gentiles. Asians cannot forget the mass lynchings of chinese, the anti-chinese riots, the burning down of chinatowns, the incarceration of japanese in concentration camps, the Chinese Exclusion Act etc which all took place in pre-Civil Rights America. Hispanics have their own litany of grievances.”

    Were Jewish Americans in concentration camps in pre-1965 America ? Did Jim Crow laws apply to Jews ?

    Did the pasty pale blue eyed Jew Paul Newman experience equal discrimination as the Sub Saharan African Jackie Robinson in pre-1965 America ?