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Not Wanting America to be "A Colony of the World" Is McCarthyite

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A Colony of the World: The United States Today: America’s Senior Statesman Warns His Countrymen

by Eugene McCarthy (Author)

Hardcover – October, 1992

In this powerful book, Senator Eugene McCarthy explains how America has been turning into a colony of the rest of the world–a captive of its self-imposed duty to police the world, its borders a mockery for all to cross. McCarthy speaks frankly with the clear voice of reason at a time when issues are obscured by misleading advertising and election-time rhetoric.

If you have any doubts about Invade the World, Invite the World, you are a McCarthyite.

 
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    The New Colonussus.

    America, an Empire in which the elites conquer the world that is allowed to conquer America.

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  2. Why don’t companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn’t actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it’s the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed “Right Wing White Supremacy” ever will.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Tucker Carlson explicitly made these arguments today, and he also corrected some traitorous legislator insisting illegal aliens are needed because Americans won't pick crops – Carlson added the important qualifier "not at those wages."

    We know President Trump (at least occasionally) watches Carlson's show, so hopefully these acknowledgements of the racket will move him to address legal immigration (H1B and migrant farmworker scams, etc.) later.
    , @Anonymous
    About Walmart, an anecdote. I observed this incident a few months ago at the Walmart on Anderson Lane in Austin Texas. A Hispanic employee was trying to explain to a new hire, a young South Asian woman, where to stock tea in boxes on the proper shelves from a large cart. She apparently understood not a single word of English. He said "tea there" pointing to the shelves. She looked at him with an empty face of pure incomprehension. Hoping to help out, I said to her "Chai, chai" but she did not understand the word.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

    , @Travis
    the immigrants working for low wages actually don't see themselves as living in poverty, they have a better standard of living than back in their home countries. but if we get serious about see immigration Walmart may be forced to increase wages which will help Americans get out of poverty. But in 20 years they will have much more automation, less need for workers at Walmart, in warehouses, driving trucks etc...
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jeff, If Walmart paid $20 an hour I would apply and ask to work a 20 hour week. That $1600 a month would lease me a 300 series Mercedes and I would still pocket a grand. And I am drug free, prompt, clean cut and reliable, with a valid driver's license. Bring it on.
    , @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.
    , @Clyde

    Why don’t companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour?
     
    In America there is always war, tension, struggle between labor and capital. Capital, our wealthy, our upper middle classes have been capturing a greater proportion of our annual national income while labor's piece of this pie has been shrinking.

    It is in the self interest of capital, our wealthy, our upper middle classes to keep legal/illegal/refugee immigration at high levels because this keeps USA labor/working classes/middle class on the ropes while Capital and the wealthy call the shots. They certainly have been calling the shots in the Republican party while cynically tossing out red meat like preserving gun rights to the proles and peasants who align with the Republican party.

    This Capitalist program destroys the USA as we know it but they don't care.
    These are not original thoughts but posted anyway.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Coincidentally this morning I see that Wendy's (the burger drive through) is installing a new load of burger serving robots (actually kiosks). The reason they gave for all the new robots is because of higher labor costs since the drive to pay $15/hour to all fast food workers.

    Everyone predicted just such a result. When all this began a couple months ago it was easy to foresee unemployment among burger flippers but there were new jobs created too. I caught the ads for robotic engineers. If you have the right degree in engineering and robotic systems you will always have a job or at least until the last human is fired.
  3. How many Spanish speaking Brown people has Walmart lifted out of the under class and into the middle class?

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Jeff, They do hire them, visit a Houston area store for confirmation, but lifting them out of poverty not so much.
  4. So it’s Kaffaffeeism vs McCarthyism. I guess I am on the side of McCarthy. It’s funny because when I first became politically conscious, I gravitated to WF Buckley, but I thought his defense of McCarthy was wrong-headed.

    What’s the Interweb’s favorite TS Eliot quotation?

    “We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.”

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  5. So much material coming so fast, Steve. Ron had better make sure that unz.com’s engineers keep a close watch on the server spillway.

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  6. Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter

    Border Lines Don't Matter
    , @anonn
    Hilary is not, and never was, part of the left. We on the left hate Wal-Mart and the Kochs as much as ever. The fact that the thieves running the DNC are open to being bribed by the same plutocrats that own the Republican party is a DNC problem, and symptomatic of the uselessness of liberals.
  7. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    Tucker Carlson explicitly made these arguments today, and he also corrected some traitorous legislator insisting illegal aliens are needed because Americans won’t pick crops – Carlson added the important qualifier “not at those wages.”

    We know President Trump (at least occasionally) watches Carlson’s show, so hopefully these acknowledgements of the racket will move him to address legal immigration (H1B and migrant farmworker scams, etc.) later.

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    • Replies: @Barnard
    That has to be some significant added pressure for Tucker Carlson each night. He knows the President could very likely be watching and will be influenced by what he hears. The margin for error is much smaller than in a regular cable news show.
    , @e
    The left always tosses in "picking the crops, " don't they?

    Tucker's was a good response, but frankly I'm not averse to saying, "They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card."

    Mostly, I wish guys like Tucker would point out that the building of homes has been turned over to Mexicans. Yes, those WERE good paying jobs Americans WOULD do.
  8. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    About Walmart, an anecdote. I observed this incident a few months ago at the Walmart on Anderson Lane in Austin Texas. A Hispanic employee was trying to explain to a new hire, a young South Asian woman, where to stock tea in boxes on the proper shelves from a large cart. She apparently understood not a single word of English. He said “tea there” pointing to the shelves. She looked at him with an empty face of pure incomprehension. Hoping to help out, I said to her “Chai, chai” but she did not understand the word.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, picture yourself as an elementary school teacher dealing with little children that speak six or seven different languages all in one classroom, and you speak only English. A better example of how things are in the homeland.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    By all means recount anecdotes to regale us, but at the same time keep in mind if you are going to bullshit then come up with plausible ones for believability lest it looks foolish... Any Englishman would understand 'chai, chai', let alone a South Asian woman!
    , @International Jew

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.
     
    Yep. A decade ago, I could still count on it that if a random Walmart employee didn't speak English, he spoke Spanish and I could get some simple information out of him. Now, forget it. I guess Walmart doesn't care anyway.
  9. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    the immigrants working for low wages actually don’t see themselves as living in poverty, they have a better standard of living than back in their home countries. but if we get serious about see immigration Walmart may be forced to increase wages which will help Americans get out of poverty. But in 20 years they will have much more automation, less need for workers at Walmart, in warehouses, driving trucks etc…

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  10. @Autochthon
    Tucker Carlson explicitly made these arguments today, and he also corrected some traitorous legislator insisting illegal aliens are needed because Americans won't pick crops – Carlson added the important qualifier "not at those wages."

    We know President Trump (at least occasionally) watches Carlson's show, so hopefully these acknowledgements of the racket will move him to address legal immigration (H1B and migrant farmworker scams, etc.) later.

    That has to be some significant added pressure for Tucker Carlson each night. He knows the President could very likely be watching and will be influenced by what he hears. The margin for error is much smaller than in a regular cable news show.

    Read More
  11. Unbelievably good article by Borjas in the NYT! Could the tide be turning…..?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/opinion/the-immigration-debate-we-need.html

    Earnest HBDers should memorise the article, and incorporate it into all their immigration discussions.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Borjas was unfortunately not hired by Trump for the Council of Economic Advisors, which instead went to a standard-issue pro-invasion type.

    Trump isn't the kind of guy who'd know who George Borjas is, so probably he just okayed whomever Priebus/Pence suggested.
    , @Travis
    thanks for the link. There was a time not long ago when many leftists supported a reduction on the flow of immigrants. It seems the media now forgets that it was the GOP which pushed for open borders and amnesty...George Bush gleefully signed the 1990 immigration bill which created the Diversity visa lottery, eliminated the English requirement for becoming a US citizen and expended Legal immigration by 50%. Trump should actively work to eliminate the 1990 immigration bill, ending the Greencard lottery is imperative as it favors immigration from muslims in Africa and Asia while banning the UK, Chinese and Mexicans from the program...clearly this is discrimination. Better to end the program which has admitted 2.5 million third work immigrants since 1991.
  12. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    Jeff, If Walmart paid $20 an hour I would apply and ask to work a 20 hour week. That $1600 a month would lease me a 300 series Mercedes and I would still pocket a grand. And I am drug free, prompt, clean cut and reliable, with a valid driver’s license. Bring it on.

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    • Replies: @Formerly CARealist
    So you don't have to pay taxes? Cool! Please tell the rest of us how to get out of SS, Medicare, Fed w/h, State w/h, and disability taxes. In some cities there's also a city income tax. And do you have to pay insurance and fees for that Mercedes? I'll bet that will bite into your pay.

    If only we could plan our lives around the actual wages we earn.
  13. @Jefferson
    How many Spanish speaking Brown people has Walmart lifted out of the under class and into the middle class?

    Jeff, They do hire them, visit a Houston area store for confirmation, but lifting them out of poverty not so much.

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  14. At the 2008 DNC, they had a video montage with the names of Democrat politicians who had died since the last one in ’04, including “Senator Joseph McCarthy.”

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    As a young American yoot I was not too political. The firestorm of Bobby joining the 68 race after Clean Gene beat LBJ in NH(?),in truth mortally wounding the dirty polecat,was lost on me. What's the big deal--why do so many people hate Bobby?!
    My mother despaired that RFK would be murdered if he ran,as did so many others.
    Point? What if Bobby hadn't run,and he had let Gene take on LBJ and Hubert? Probably the same outcome but the possibility is there McCarthy might've pulled it off.
    Would Amurrica be the better for it?
    , @Mr. Anon
    "At the 2008 DNC, they had a video montage with the names of Democrat politicians who had died since the last one in ’04, including “Senator Joseph McCarthy.”"

    That's funny. Eugene McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy,.....eh, whatever.......same thing; just another dead white guy.

    In think the Republican Party should start holding an annual "Jefferson and Jackson" dinner, now that the Democrats have renounced them.
  15. @Anonymous
    About Walmart, an anecdote. I observed this incident a few months ago at the Walmart on Anderson Lane in Austin Texas. A Hispanic employee was trying to explain to a new hire, a young South Asian woman, where to stock tea in boxes on the proper shelves from a large cart. She apparently understood not a single word of English. He said "tea there" pointing to the shelves. She looked at him with an empty face of pure incomprehension. Hoping to help out, I said to her "Chai, chai" but she did not understand the word.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

    Anonymous, picture yourself as an elementary school teacher dealing with little children that speak six or seven different languages all in one classroom, and you speak only English. A better example of how things are in the homeland.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Anonymous, picture yourself as an elementary school teacher dealing with little children that speak six or seven different languages all in one classroom, and you speak only English. A better example of how things are in the homeland."

    That image makes me feel so much stronger.
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    • Replies: @Autochthon

    Like President Trump, Mr. Wilders is unafraid to say things in direct and divisive ways.
     
    Remember, kids: If a Diverse politician – e.g., Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Ghandi – advocates for the interests of his constituents, defends the idea that his people deserve a safe homeland free from invaders, interlopers of other races, etc. then that leader is a hero for all humanity. If an American or European leader advocates for his constituents, magnanimously making no distinctions even regarding race (in the vein of Steve's Citizenism), he is of course "devisive."

    Recuerdo: ¿Quien? ¿Quién?
    , @Anonym
    Dig the top rated comments on this NYT piece on Geert Wilders:

    My god. The peasants truly are revolting on Carlos Slim's blog. I never thought I'd see the day when the readers of the NYT were fashier than Steve or most of his readers were, when Steve started out. Maybe I am wrong but if so, not far wrong.
  17. Steve, if you have any contacts with Trump people, please draw their attention to this.

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  18. @Jefferson
    Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.

    a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter

    Border Lines Don’t Matter

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    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Harry, Funny, and the LOL button still doesn't work
  19. The machines are going to replace, IIRC, fifty percent of all jobs or some similar number in twenty years. Why are we bringing in people who will likely become dependents under that scenario?

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  20. @Hugh
    Unbelievably good article by Borjas in the NYT! Could the tide be turning.....?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/opinion/the-immigration-debate-we-need.html

    Earnest HBDers should memorise the article, and incorporate it into all their immigration discussions.

    Borjas was unfortunately not hired by Trump for the Council of Economic Advisors, which instead went to a standard-issue pro-invasion type.

    Trump isn’t the kind of guy who’d know who George Borjas is, so probably he just okayed whomever Priebus/Pence suggested.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    I suppose it's also possible he refused a position; he might have a hard time getting his Harvard job back if he did.
  21. @snorlax
    Borjas was unfortunately not hired by Trump for the Council of Economic Advisors, which instead went to a standard-issue pro-invasion type.

    Trump isn't the kind of guy who'd know who George Borjas is, so probably he just okayed whomever Priebus/Pence suggested.

    I suppose it’s also possible he refused a position; he might have a hard time getting his Harvard job back if he did.

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  22. @snorlax
    At the 2008 DNC, they had a video montage with the names of Democrat politicians who had died since the last one in '04, including "Senator Joseph McCarthy."

    As a young American yoot I was not too political. The firestorm of Bobby joining the 68 race after Clean Gene beat LBJ in NH(?),in truth mortally wounding the dirty polecat,was lost on me. What’s the big deal–why do so many people hate Bobby?!
    My mother despaired that RFK would be murdered if he ran,as did so many others.
    Point? What if Bobby hadn’t run,and he had let Gene take on LBJ and Hubert? Probably the same outcome but the possibility is there McCarthy might’ve pulled it off.
    Would Amurrica be the better for it?

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    @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, picture yourself as an elementary school teacher dealing with little children that speak six or seven different languages all in one classroom, and you speak only English. A better example of how things are in the homeland.

    “Anonymous, picture yourself as an elementary school teacher dealing with little children that speak six or seven different languages all in one classroom, and you speak only English. A better example of how things are in the homeland.”

    That image makes me feel so much stronger.

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  24. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits."

    And they are doing so by using public subsidies - the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs.

    "That is capitalism in the raw."

    And who says we should like it? I don't. I am not a capitalist. I suppose slavery can be viewed as capitalism in the raw too. Can we mark you down as a fan of that peculiar institution?

    "Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders."

    And much the same could be said of whores, pimps, and theives too.

    "Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations?"

    By cutting off their source of cheap labor. And who says that "without raising consumer prices" is a necessity? I'd be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country. People should pay for what they get.
    , @neutral
    Strange how people like you suddenly become free market fundamentalists, funny how this logic does not apply to business and racial/environmental/gender issues.
    , @27 year old
    >simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits. That is capitalism in the raw.

    "Capitalism" can no longer be the organizing principle of our society.

    >Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?

    Yes.

    >Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, "you have to hire Americans at fair wages".

    >Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism

    Fines, prison, lynch mobs
    , @bomag

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?
     
    Corvinus, my business plan is to harvest your organs for cash. I expect you to cooperate in the spirit of ideological purity.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest...interfere with a company's business model and limit their profit. If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That is capitalism in the raw.
     
    Only if their foreign workers are pulling their own weight-- for their new country as well as their cheap employer.

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?
     
    If they're subsidized by everyone else, yes.

    Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam's standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist.

    , @Old fogey
    Walmart and other companies are designing business plans within the context of the policies of the government of the United States. If the policies change, then they will change their own practices accordingly. That is why government economic and immigration policies and enforcement are so important.
  25. Russell Kirk plumped for McCarthy in ’68, after all. In that respect, at least, he and the unwashed hippies on the Chicago picket lines were on the same page.

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  26. @Hugh
    Unbelievably good article by Borjas in the NYT! Could the tide be turning.....?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/opinion/the-immigration-debate-we-need.html

    Earnest HBDers should memorise the article, and incorporate it into all their immigration discussions.

    thanks for the link. There was a time not long ago when many leftists supported a reduction on the flow of immigrants. It seems the media now forgets that it was the GOP which pushed for open borders and amnesty…George Bush gleefully signed the 1990 immigration bill which created the Diversity visa lottery, eliminated the English requirement for becoming a US citizen and expended Legal immigration by 50%. Trump should actively work to eliminate the 1990 immigration bill, ending the Greencard lottery is imperative as it favors immigration from muslims in Africa and Asia while banning the UK, Chinese and Mexicans from the program…clearly this is discrimination. Better to end the program which has admitted 2.5 million third work immigrants since 1991.

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  27. OT OT OT
    Welcome Aboard… But First US Marshals Will Scan Your Retina http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-26/welcome-aboard-first-us-marshals-will-scan-your-retina

    Submitted by Jeffrey Tucker via The Foundation for Economic Education,

    For some 15 years, airport security has become steadily more invasive. There are ever more checkpoints, ever more requests for documents as you make your way from the airport entrance to the airplane. Passengers adapt to the new changes as they come. But my latest flight to Mexico, originating in Atlanta, presented all passengers with something I had never seen before.

    This time was different. Halfway down the jetbridge, there was a new layer of security. Two US Marshals, heavily armed and dressed in dystopian-style black regalia, stood next to an upright machine with a glowing green eye. Every passenger, one by one, was told to step on a mat and look into the green scanner.

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  28. @snorlax
    At the 2008 DNC, they had a video montage with the names of Democrat politicians who had died since the last one in '04, including "Senator Joseph McCarthy."

    “At the 2008 DNC, they had a video montage with the names of Democrat politicians who had died since the last one in ’04, including “Senator Joseph McCarthy.””

    That’s funny. Eugene McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy,…..eh, whatever…….same thing; just another dead white guy.

    In think the Republican Party should start holding an annual “Jefferson and Jackson” dinner, now that the Democrats have renounced them.

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  29. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    “Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits.”

    And they are doing so by using public subsidies – the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs.

    “That is capitalism in the raw.”

    And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist. I suppose slavery can be viewed as capitalism in the raw too. Can we mark you down as a fan of that peculiar institution?

    “Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.”

    And much the same could be said of whores, pimps, and theives too.

    “Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations?”

    By cutting off their source of cheap labor. And who says that “without raising consumer prices” is a necessity? I’d be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country. People should pay for what they get.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "And they are doing so by using public subsidies – the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs."

    Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time.

    "And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist."

    That's anti-American.

    "By cutting off their source of cheap labor."

    Then you are interfering with a company's liberty to operate as how it sees fit. Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?

    "And who says that “without raising consumer prices” is a necessity? I’d be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country."

    Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits.
  30. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    Why don’t companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour?

    In America there is always war, tension, struggle between labor and capital. Capital, our wealthy, our upper middle classes have been capturing a greater proportion of our annual national income while labor’s piece of this pie has been shrinking.

    It is in the self interest of capital, our wealthy, our upper middle classes to keep legal/illegal/refugee immigration at high levels because this keeps USA labor/working classes/middle class on the ropes while Capital and the wealthy call the shots. They certainly have been calling the shots in the Republican party while cynically tossing out red meat like preserving gun rights to the proles and peasants who align with the Republican party.

    This Capitalist program destroys the USA as we know it but they don’t care.
    These are not original thoughts but posted anyway.

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  31. Traditionally, national leaders have made periodic examples of wealthy capitalists to make them fall into line with the general interests of the nation, lest they be hung on the gallows or simply have their property seized. This has been the method of Henry XVIII, Louis XIV, Phillip II, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and various Chinese leaders since Deng.

    It would be an EXCELLENT example to say, seize most/all of Zuckerberg’s wealth and break up Faceborg as an example to scare others into patriotism. They need nothing more than FEAR. And it is high time they feared us. Fear is a great thing, it is better to be feared than loved.

    However most of this capitalist stuff is thinly veiled anti-White hate that is supercharged by most White women in an anti-lady-tingle frenzy over the state of their male peers (too many beta males, not enough Dark Triad Alphas) and cultural / racial clashes among Whites.

    Those Whites who have DNA encoded beliefs in communalism, a select predestined group already “saved” and feminist-directed thought police; are at eternal war and always will be with Whites who value liberty, freedom, outspoken-ness, and male achievement rather than female status whoring. Much of the desire to push down wages is just DNA inspired HBD of Puritan style Whites wanting to destroy Celtic/Latin Catholic type Whites.

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  32. I supported Gene McCarthy for president, in 1976– which was my first presidential election as a voter. Unfortunately for us both, he failed to make the Indiana general-election ballot, that year, and I had to settle for voting for my own party’s candidate, Jimmy Carter, instead.

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  33. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    Strange how people like you suddenly become free market fundamentalists, funny how this logic does not apply to business and racial/environmental/gender issues.

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    Imperial overlords don’t respect the sovereignty of the native majority population.

    British imperialists settled lots of Asian Indians in Africa and used them as middlemen.
    British imperialists also allowed extensive Jewish immigration into Palestine.
    French imperialists used black Africans in Vietnam.
    White Americans imported blacks and settled them here; they sure as hell didn’t Indians for permission.
    Today, the GLOB that rules America imports non-whites to destroy ‘dying white America’.

    US is already a colony in terms of elite rule. Globalists, not nationalists, rule the US.

    US is being demographically colonized because it’s already been elite-colonized. ‘

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  35. @Luke Lea
    Dig the top rated comments on this NYT piece on Geert Wilders:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/world/europe/geert-wilders-reclusive-provocateur-rises-before-dutch-vote.html?comments&mtrref=undefined&gwh=C7D1E3DB15FDA7EEA7E93F56F59EC3D2&gwt=pay#permid=21624000:21633278

    A lot of Gene McCarthy fans in the Big Apple yet.

    Like President Trump, Mr. Wilders is unafraid to say things in direct and divisive ways.

    Remember, kids: If a Diverse politician – e.g., Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Ghandi – advocates for the interests of his constituents, defends the idea that his people deserve a safe homeland free from invaders, interlopers of other races, etc. then that leader is a hero for all humanity. If an American or European leader advocates for his constituents, magnanimously making no distinctions even regarding race (in the vein of Steve’s Citizenism), he is of course “devisive.”

    Recuerdo: ¿Quien? ¿Quién?

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  36. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    >simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits. That is capitalism in the raw.

    “Capitalism” can no longer be the organizing principle of our society.

    >Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?

    Yes.

    >Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, “you have to hire Americans at fair wages”.

    >Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism

    Fines, prison, lynch mobs

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "“Capitalism” can no longer be the organizing principle of our society."

    Wow, just wow.

    "they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, “you have to hire Americans at fair wages”."

    That's called coercion. I thought conservatives advocated freedom of association and free market principles.

    "Fines, prison, lynch mobs."

    How anti-capitalist of you to suggest.
  37. Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.

    Yeah, it’s almost like a real opponent intruded on their fixed “pro” wrestling match.

    Corvinus says:
    February 28, 2017 at 3:06 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Corvanus, friend of Big Corporations.

    And the deep state:

    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-deep-state-targets-trump/#comment-1770517

    And white racialism:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-work-disappears-manufacturing-decline-and-the-falling-marriage-market-value-of-men/#comment-1781167

    Lies pour from his lips, and little else. Gotta be really bored to bandy words with that one.

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    Lies pour from his lips, and little else. Gotta be really bored to bandy words with that one.
     
    Bored or just tired of letting the lies pass unchallenged.
    , @vinteuil
    "...it’s almost like a real opponent intruded on their fixed 'pro' wrestling match..."

    What a great metaphor for the Trump insurgency: an inexperienced but talented wrestler shows up at WWE and pins everybody in sight.

    Indignant howls of outrage ensue from all the officials, advertisers & "competitors" who used to keep the racket going.
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    When did the Statue of Liberty become the Horse of Troy?

    Democratic Party is the Trojan Donkey.

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  39. Not Wanting America to be “A Colony of the World” Is McCarthyite

    I do understand the humor/irony in this headline, Steve, but regarding for Tail Gunner* Joe McCarthy, the term McCarthyite really cheeses me off, especially once I learned more of his story. The LP has been up to their games for a long time, though it wasn’t so blatant back then. I haven’t read Ann Coulter’s book about the real story of Senator Joe McCarthy against the commie infiltration, only excerpts. I have no reason to doubt Miss Coulter, as I’ve never caught her in deliberate or any kind of error.

    It sounds like Tail Gunner McCarthy was on the right track, but he wasn’t able to finish his work. That is getting pretty obvious to everyone now, as the commies have indeed infiltrated more areas of our society than even Senator Joe could have imagined.

    Anyway, I hate the slur on his name, as it’s become a dictionary word now. It is really interesting to read (from VDare first the other day) that the left-wing Eugene was so wise in his views on immigration – a lot of the commies in high positions have always “meant well”, but plenty of evil can come from “meaning well”. It’s just that, back in the days of Eugene McCarthy, the hard-lefties in America just weren’t so damn stupid!

    (the useful idiot, majority of leftists have always been pretty damn stupid)

    * not said in any disparaging way, as this guy was a US Marine in the Pacific during WWII – he was in a dive bomber group, so I’m not sure how he could have been a “tail” gunner, just a gunner.

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I hope they don't mean tail gunner in the Lindsey Graham sense.
  40. The thing that becomes clear when reading about the McCarthy era is what small potatoes it all was. Hardcore enemies of the country were forced to answer some questions with the possible consequence of losing their jobs or writing under a pseudonym.

    How wonderfully naive and polite. This is not how a political with hunt goes anywhere else in the world, especially at the time.

    The other thing that jumps out is that given that, among other things, communist fifth-columnists went on to first give Russia the nuclear bomb and then kill the president, it was an under reaction if anything.

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  41. @Buffalo Joe
    Jeff, If Walmart paid $20 an hour I would apply and ask to work a 20 hour week. That $1600 a month would lease me a 300 series Mercedes and I would still pocket a grand. And I am drug free, prompt, clean cut and reliable, with a valid driver's license. Bring it on.

    So you don’t have to pay taxes? Cool! Please tell the rest of us how to get out of SS, Medicare, Fed w/h, State w/h, and disability taxes. In some cities there’s also a city income tax. And do you have to pay insurance and fees for that Mercedes? I’ll bet that will bite into your pay.

    If only we could plan our lives around the actual wages we earn.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Formerly,, I can lease that car for $399 a month and at 71 I won't pay SS. You can claim exempt on a W-2 and worry about your taxes on April 15th. Years ago on big construction projects with lots of overtime (seven days a week, 12 hour days) you checked the exempt box and settled up at the end. No city tax here and that lease price includes tax and fees. Living in WNY is pretty reasonable.
  42. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?

    Corvinus, my business plan is to harvest your organs for cash. I expect you to cooperate in the spirit of ideological purity.

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  43. @Jefferson
    Why don't companies like Walmart give Illegal Immigrants starting wage salaries of at least $20 dollars an hour? Walmart wants mass open borders immigration but Walmart doesn't actually want to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty. Walmart believes it's the job of the U.S government to help lift Illegal Immigrants out of poverty with the welfare state, not theirs. Walmart believes their only duty is to help exploit Illegal Immigrants, not give them a higher standard of living.

    Walmart helps put way more Brown people in poverty with their extremely low wages than supposed "Right Wing White Supremacy" ever will.

    Coincidentally this morning I see that Wendy’s (the burger drive through) is installing a new load of burger serving robots (actually kiosks). The reason they gave for all the new robots is because of higher labor costs since the drive to pay $15/hour to all fast food workers.

    Everyone predicted just such a result. When all this began a couple months ago it was easy to foresee unemployment among burger flippers but there were new jobs created too. I caught the ads for robotic engineers. If you have the right degree in engineering and robotic systems you will always have a job or at least until the last human is fired.

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    Pat, Who wouldn't want to design or build a robo-burger-flipper, rather than actually flip burgers, but with no HS diploma or GED the unemployed become even more useless.
  44. This is typical of the schism between Democratic liberals like O’neil and Moyniahn and the New Left Democrat Party of Pelosi and Schumer. The New Left has chosen to adopt the same corporatist philosophy as the Old Left’s fictional enemy Arthur Jensen from the film “Network”.

    As soon as Bill Clinton supported NAFTA, GATT and the WTO in the 1990′s, it was apparent that the Democratic party was entering a New Dawn. It just took a few more years for the rest of the left to catch up, because globalization and cultural homogenization were still bogeymen of the Left as recently as 1999 (Battle in Seattle).

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  45. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest…interfere with a company’s business model and limit their profit. If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest…interfere with a company’s business model and limit their profit."

    Absolutely, for a host of reasons. And conservatives generally label their legislative efforts as being socialistic in nature, or in direct opposition to free market principles. So, how is Jefferson's call to action any different?

    "If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this."

    This conduct reflects the will of the consumer. Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.
  46. No, that’s not quite right. If America were being turned into non-American colonies we would have the colonizers (non-American elites) ruling over the natives (Americans).

    Instead America is being turned into American colonies: an American elite ruling over non-American subjects.

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  47. @Autochthon
    Tucker Carlson explicitly made these arguments today, and he also corrected some traitorous legislator insisting illegal aliens are needed because Americans won't pick crops – Carlson added the important qualifier "not at those wages."

    We know President Trump (at least occasionally) watches Carlson's show, so hopefully these acknowledgements of the racket will move him to address legal immigration (H1B and migrant farmworker scams, etc.) later.

    The left always tosses in “picking the crops, ” don’t they?

    Tucker’s was a good response, but frankly I’m not averse to saying, “They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card.”

    Mostly, I wish guys like Tucker would point out that the building of homes has been turned over to Mexicans. Yes, those WERE good paying jobs Americans WOULD do.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Tucker’s was a good response, but frankly I’m not averse to saying, “They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card.”

    But first, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    e, Canada had a guest worker program where the pickers could not bring their families and their pay was deposited into an account that was accessible only when the workers departed the country. That seemed to be a good plan.
  48. Actually, Comrade McCarthy is right; America has become a colony, but not of the world. America has become a colony of billionaire liberal elites.

    One of the worst developments of liberalism has been the “open door” policy. European liberal imperialists tended to take over colonies and use them for their own exclusive economic advantage. Since the US came late to the imperialist game (after 1890 and the closing of the frontier), US liberals pushed for “open door” trade policies.

    What the open door policy was about was opening up entire countries, such as China, to the ravages of international liberal imperialism. Since US workers weren’t paid enough to consume what they were producing, this form of imperialism became necessary.

    Today, the entire world has been turned into an “open door” free trade zone. As such, we are treated no better than any other colonial population. And these same liberals have transformed our once-great nation from an industrial and manufacturing power center into one whose biggest exports is raw materials to be sent to the Third World for actual manufacture. This was the biggest grievance of colonized peoples, and it should be ours too.

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  49. Walmart commercials no longer feature White people in them. Has anyone here noticed this White Flight From Walmart?

    The Walmart commercials I have seen in the last couple of years only feature Hispanics and African Americans in them. Although no Orientals in any of these Walmart commercials. Just like White people, East Asians in The U.S must not be huge Walmart shoppers either.

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  50. @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest...interfere with a company's business model and limit their profit. If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this.

    “Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest…interfere with a company’s business model and limit their profit.”

    Absolutely, for a host of reasons. And conservatives generally label their legislative efforts as being socialistic in nature, or in direct opposition to free market principles. So, how is Jefferson’s call to action any different?

    “If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this.”

    This conduct reflects the will of the consumer. Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.

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    Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.

    Your powers of interpretation never fail to dazzle me.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer. He managed to get a Budweiser distributorship for his sons and I think a Coke distributorship also. He could care less about what happens in the community.
  51. @Jefferson
    Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.

    Hilary is not, and never was, part of the left. We on the left hate Wal-Mart and the Kochs as much as ever. The fact that the thieves running the DNC are open to being bribed by the same plutocrats that own the Republican party is a DNC problem, and symptomatic of the uselessness of liberals.

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  52. Troll, obviously a business venture’s earning potential is not the overriding concern. Hence abolition of slavery, criminalization of prostitution and hard drugs, human trafficking, etc.

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  53. @Anonymous
    About Walmart, an anecdote. I observed this incident a few months ago at the Walmart on Anderson Lane in Austin Texas. A Hispanic employee was trying to explain to a new hire, a young South Asian woman, where to stock tea in boxes on the proper shelves from a large cart. She apparently understood not a single word of English. He said "tea there" pointing to the shelves. She looked at him with an empty face of pure incomprehension. Hoping to help out, I said to her "Chai, chai" but she did not understand the word.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

    By all means recount anecdotes to regale us, but at the same time keep in mind if you are going to bullshit then come up with plausible ones for believability lest it looks foolish… Any Englishman would understand ‘chai, chai’, let alone a South Asian woman!

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  54. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest…interfere with a company’s business model and limit their profit."

    Absolutely, for a host of reasons. And conservatives generally label their legislative efforts as being socialistic in nature, or in direct opposition to free market principles. So, how is Jefferson's call to action any different?

    "If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this."

    This conduct reflects the will of the consumer. Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.

    Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.

    Your powers of interpretation never fail to dazzle me.

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  55. @Luke Lea
    Dig the top rated comments on this NYT piece on Geert Wilders:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/world/europe/geert-wilders-reclusive-provocateur-rises-before-dutch-vote.html?comments&mtrref=undefined&gwh=C7D1E3DB15FDA7EEA7E93F56F59EC3D2&gwt=pay#permid=21624000:21633278

    A lot of Gene McCarthy fans in the Big Apple yet.

    Dig the top rated comments on this NYT piece on Geert Wilders:

    My god. The peasants truly are revolting on Carlos Slim’s blog. I never thought I’d see the day when the readers of the NYT were fashier than Steve or most of his readers were, when Steve started out. Maybe I am wrong but if so, not far wrong.

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  56. @Anonymous
    About Walmart, an anecdote. I observed this incident a few months ago at the Walmart on Anderson Lane in Austin Texas. A Hispanic employee was trying to explain to a new hire, a young South Asian woman, where to stock tea in boxes on the proper shelves from a large cart. She apparently understood not a single word of English. He said "tea there" pointing to the shelves. She looked at him with an empty face of pure incomprehension. Hoping to help out, I said to her "Chai, chai" but she did not understand the word.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

    Recounting this anecdote is my contribution to the atomic facts which in principle, if we are wise enough, add up to a picture of how things are now in the homeland.

    Yep. A decade ago, I could still count on it that if a random Walmart employee didn’t speak English, he spoke Spanish and I could get some simple information out of him. Now, forget it. I guess Walmart doesn’t care anyway.

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  57. @Pat Boyle
    Coincidentally this morning I see that Wendy's (the burger drive through) is installing a new load of burger serving robots (actually kiosks). The reason they gave for all the new robots is because of higher labor costs since the drive to pay $15/hour to all fast food workers.

    Everyone predicted just such a result. When all this began a couple months ago it was easy to foresee unemployment among burger flippers but there were new jobs created too. I caught the ads for robotic engineers. If you have the right degree in engineering and robotic systems you will always have a job or at least until the last human is fired.

    Pat, Who wouldn’t want to design or build a robo-burger-flipper, rather than actually flip burgers, but with no HS diploma or GED the unemployed become even more useless.

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  58. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, we know Jefferson leans right, but the left has proposed to do what you suggest…interfere with a company’s business model and limit their profit."

    Absolutely, for a host of reasons. And conservatives generally label their legislative efforts as being socialistic in nature, or in direct opposition to free market principles. So, how is Jefferson's call to action any different?

    "If the company does not bend to their will then they boycott or picket them into submission. Jesse Jackson is probably the best at doing this."

    This conduct reflects the will of the consumer. Jefferson appears to be calling for laws to be put in place to coerce businesses into economic nationalism at the expense of their earning potential.

    Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer. He managed to get a Budweiser distributorship for his sons and I think a Coke distributorship also. He could care less about what happens in the community.

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    "Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer."

    So is Milo. Each side of the Coalition of the Fringes have their "experts".
  59. @e
    The left always tosses in "picking the crops, " don't they?

    Tucker's was a good response, but frankly I'm not averse to saying, "They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card."

    Mostly, I wish guys like Tucker would point out that the building of homes has been turned over to Mexicans. Yes, those WERE good paying jobs Americans WOULD do.

    Tucker’s was a good response, but frankly I’m not averse to saying, “They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card.”

    But first, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship.

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    • Replies: @Old fogey
    "But first, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship."

    Hear! Hear!
  60. If you have any doubts about Invade the World, Invite the World, you are a McCarthyite.

    Don’t forget that McCarthy also opposed any restrictions at all on the funding of political campaigns. He’d probably have jumped for joy at Citizens United.

    His 1968 campaign was backed by two eclectic heirs.

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    • Replies: @Jimi
    In the old days, you'd sell out on 1 or 2 issues for the cash and then you can work on other issues according to your conscience.

    Today you depend of ideologues, interest groups, and corporations to cobble together enough funding for a campaign. So you have to sell out on ALL the issues.
  61. @e
    The left always tosses in "picking the crops, " don't they?

    Tucker's was a good response, but frankly I'm not averse to saying, "They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card."

    Mostly, I wish guys like Tucker would point out that the building of homes has been turned over to Mexicans. Yes, those WERE good paying jobs Americans WOULD do.

    e, Canada had a guest worker program where the pickers could not bring their families and their pay was deposited into an account that was accessible only when the workers departed the country. That seemed to be a good plan.

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  62. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    That is capitalism in the raw.

    Only if their foreign workers are pulling their own weight– for their new country as well as their cheap employer.

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?

    If they’re subsidized by everyone else, yes.

    Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    ". So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist."

    Walmart is the store of the under class while Target is the store of the middle class.
    , @Corvinus
    "If they’re subsidized by everyone else, yes."

    It's called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.

    "Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well."

    One store by which this criteria was not met.
  63. @Reg Cæsar

    If you have any doubts about Invade the World, Invite the World, you are a McCarthyite.
     
    Don't forget that McCarthy also opposed any restrictions at all on the funding of political campaigns. He'd probably have jumped for joy at Citizens United.

    His 1968 campaign was backed by two eclectic heirs.

    In the old days, you’d sell out on 1 or 2 issues for the cash and then you can work on other issues according to your conscience.

    Today you depend of ideologues, interest groups, and corporations to cobble together enough funding for a campaign. So you have to sell out on ALL the issues.

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  64. A recent NY Times article noted that something like 9 of the 12 fastest growing sectors are in old-people assistance fields (home health aids, nursing, etc.). When the last of Baby Boomers kicks the bucket in 30-40 years, a hell of a lot of people are going to be unemployed. We have only just begun to hurt.

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    We can import millions of old immigrants to keep up the demand for old-people assistance fields. Problem solved.
  65. Eugene McCarthy also opposed the Vietnam war, so he was against the invade the world part.

    Mccarthy co sponsored 1965 immigration act.

    Along with Ted Kennedy, McCarthy was one of the original co-sponsors of the Immigration Act of 1965. He later regretted this, noting that “unrecognized by virtually all of the bill’s supporters, were provisions which would eventually lead to unprecedented growth in numbers and the transfer of policy control from the elected representatives of the American people to individuals wishing to bring relatives to this country”.[9] Taking a turn to the right, McCarthy became a member of the Board of Advisors of the Federation for American Immigration Reform.[10]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_McCarthy

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  66. @Reg Cæsar

    That is capitalism in the raw.
     
    Only if their foreign workers are pulling their own weight-- for their new country as well as their cheap employer.

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?
     
    If they're subsidized by everyone else, yes.

    Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam's standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist.

    “. So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist.”

    Walmart is the store of the under class while Target is the store of the middle class.

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  67. @Svigor

    Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.
     
    Yeah, it's almost like a real opponent intruded on their fixed "pro" wrestling match.

    Corvinus says:
    February 28, 2017 at 3:06 pm GMT • 100 Words
     
    Corvanus, friend of Big Corporations.

    And the deep state:
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-deep-state-targets-trump/#comment-1770517

    And white racialism:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-work-disappears-manufacturing-decline-and-the-falling-marriage-market-value-of-men/#comment-1781167

    Lies pour from his lips, and little else. Gotta be really bored to bandy words with that one.

    Lies pour from his lips, and little else. Gotta be really bored to bandy words with that one.

    Bored or just tired of letting the lies pass unchallenged.

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  68. @Mr. Anon
    "Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits."

    And they are doing so by using public subsidies - the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs.

    "That is capitalism in the raw."

    And who says we should like it? I don't. I am not a capitalist. I suppose slavery can be viewed as capitalism in the raw too. Can we mark you down as a fan of that peculiar institution?

    "Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders."

    And much the same could be said of whores, pimps, and theives too.

    "Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations?"

    By cutting off their source of cheap labor. And who says that "without raising consumer prices" is a necessity? I'd be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country. People should pay for what they get.

    “And they are doing so by using public subsidies – the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs.”

    Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time.

    “And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.

    “By cutting off their source of cheap labor.”

    Then you are interfering with a company’s liberty to operate as how it sees fit. Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?

    “And who says that “without raising consumer prices” is a necessity? I’d be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country.”

    Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time."

    That isn't what I meant. I was referring to medicaid, the EIC, and various other forms of welfare. And, in the case of illegal aliens, schooling, prisons, etc.

    "“And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American."

    No, it isn't "anti-American". You are anti-American as far as I am concerned. And, by the way, you didn't understand what I was saying when I said I am not a capitalist.

    "Then you are interfering with a company’s liberty to operate as how it sees fit."

    It is not interfering with their liberty to enforce our immigration laws. What they are doing is not liberty, but license. I am not obligated to support them gaming our system and enriching themselves at our expense.

    "Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?"

    Then they should go out of business. I don't care.

    "Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits."

    Imagine what being impoverished and out of work does to the purchasing power of consumers?

    You really are a dull-witted little establishment drone, aren't you. Is there a single thought in your head that wasn't stuffed in there by the oligarchic elite and their media stooges? Evidently, you're no good at thinking for yourself.

    , @peterike

    “And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.
     

    Lol! You know, the notion that "corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else" was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it's quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970.

    You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class -- which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers -- gave way to the new Jewish ruling class, which preferred a financialization of the economy, which was bad for workers because it preached that profits mattered above all else. Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it.

    No, it was all about profits now. This led, quite logically when you start with a corrupt notion, to support for out-sourcing, in-sourcing, unchecked immigration, wage stagnation and so forth, all while the executive class, the wealthy investors and the banks took an ever greater percentage of the profits.

    And who wrote this article that started it all? Why, (((Milton Friedman))) publishing it in the (((New York Times))). It's almost like something deliberate was going on. But that would be crazy talk.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/#1dfe71bb870e

  69. @27 year old
    >simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line…profits. That is capitalism in the raw.

    "Capitalism" can no longer be the organizing principle of our society.

    >Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?

    Yes.

    >Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, "you have to hire Americans at fair wages".

    >Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism

    Fines, prison, lynch mobs

    ““Capitalism” can no longer be the organizing principle of our society.”

    Wow, just wow.

    “they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, “you have to hire Americans at fair wages”.”

    That’s called coercion. I thought conservatives advocated freedom of association and free market principles.

    “Fines, prison, lynch mobs.”

    How anti-capitalist of you to suggest.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "That’s called coercion."

    Only by people like you.

    "I thought conservatives advocated freedom of association and free market principles."

    Conservatives advocate the conservation of their society, their people, and their nation. What you're talking about - and are apparently too stupid to know - are libertarians.
  70. @Reg Cæsar

    That is capitalism in the raw.
     
    Only if their foreign workers are pulling their own weight-- for their new country as well as their cheap employer.

    Do you propose to interfere with their business operations?
     
    If they're subsidized by everyone else, yes.

    Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam's standards are slipping in other areas as well.

    But then, standards are racist.

    “If they’re subsidized by everyone else, yes.”

    It’s called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.

    “Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well.”

    One store by which this criteria was not met.

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    • Replies: @bomag

    It’s called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.
     
    What a joke.

    So when companies use gov't fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is "negotiation" for the greater good.

    If we suggest the citizenry have gov't look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus's world. Nice.
  71. @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer. He managed to get a Budweiser distributorship for his sons and I think a Coke distributorship also. He could care less about what happens in the community.

    “Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer.”

    So is Milo. Each side of the Coalition of the Fringes have their “experts”.

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    Corvinus, Sigh, Tit meet tat.
    , @vinteuil
    OK, I know I shouldn't, but I'll bite: how is Milo a "shakedown artist/blackmailer?"
  72. @Harry Baldwin
    a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter

    Border Lines Don't Matter

    Harry, Funny, and the LOL button still doesn’t work

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  73. @Svigor

    Ever since it was reported that Walmart donated millions of dollars to Crooked Cankles presidential campaign the Left no longer hates Walmart. Just like the Left no longer hates The Koch Brothers ever since it was revealed that they are Never Trumpers.

    I would not be surprised if The Koch Brothers team up with George Soros and Jorge Ramos to help create a pro-open borders astro turf version of Black Lies Matter.
     
    Yeah, it's almost like a real opponent intruded on their fixed "pro" wrestling match.

    Corvinus says:
    February 28, 2017 at 3:06 pm GMT • 100 Words
     
    Corvanus, friend of Big Corporations.

    And the deep state:
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-deep-state-targets-trump/#comment-1770517

    And white racialism:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-work-disappears-manufacturing-decline-and-the-falling-marriage-market-value-of-men/#comment-1781167

    Lies pour from his lips, and little else. Gotta be really bored to bandy words with that one.

    “…it’s almost like a real opponent intruded on their fixed ‘pro’ wrestling match…”

    What a great metaphor for the Trump insurgency: an inexperienced but talented wrestler shows up at WWE and pins everybody in sight.

    Indignant howls of outrage ensue from all the officials, advertisers & “competitors” who used to keep the racket going.

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  74. @Formerly CARealist
    So you don't have to pay taxes? Cool! Please tell the rest of us how to get out of SS, Medicare, Fed w/h, State w/h, and disability taxes. In some cities there's also a city income tax. And do you have to pay insurance and fees for that Mercedes? I'll bet that will bite into your pay.

    If only we could plan our lives around the actual wages we earn.

    Formerly,, I can lease that car for $399 a month and at 71 I won’t pay SS. You can claim exempt on a W-2 and worry about your taxes on April 15th. Years ago on big construction projects with lots of overtime (seven days a week, 12 hour days) you checked the exempt box and settled up at the end. No city tax here and that lease price includes tax and fees. Living in WNY is pretty reasonable.

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    If you underpay your taxes throughout the year, you'll be hit with big penalties come tax time. We have a client that's been making good money and claiming himself "exempt" on his taxes. Now he's got a huge bill and a giant penalty. Russian, of course.

    We both collect SS and pay into it. My husband has Medicare and pays taxes into it.

    Death and taxes, count on both!
  75. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer."

    So is Milo. Each side of the Coalition of the Fringes have their "experts".

    Corvinus, Sigh, Tit meet tat.

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  76. Bored or just tired of letting the lies pass unchallenged.

    True. My own instinct seems to be toward maximum concision, in the latter case. Liars don’t deserve more. Note how the LARPer/Troll tends only to respond to those who take him seriously.

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  77. What a great metaphor for the Trump insurgency: an inexperienced but talented wrestler shows up at WWE and pins everybody in sight.

    I’m laughing at your imagery; “Trump pinning everybody in sight.”

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  78. I think Corvinus is a woman trapped in a man’s body because he goes on and on and on and on …

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  79. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, Jesse Jackson is a world class shakedown artist/blackmailer."

    So is Milo. Each side of the Coalition of the Fringes have their "experts".

    OK, I know I shouldn’t, but I’ll bite: how is Milo a “shakedown artist/blackmailer?”

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  80. @Seth Largo
    A recent NY Times article noted that something like 9 of the 12 fastest growing sectors are in old-people assistance fields (home health aids, nursing, etc.). When the last of Baby Boomers kicks the bucket in 30-40 years, a hell of a lot of people are going to be unemployed. We have only just begun to hurt.

    We can import millions of old immigrants to keep up the demand for old-people assistance fields. Problem solved.

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  81. @Corvinus
    "If they’re subsidized by everyone else, yes."

    It's called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.

    "Sam Walton always preached to his hirelings to greet any customer they come within ten feet of. Marketing guru Scott Stratten recently videoed a short visit to his Walmart, and caught 17 workers violating this rule. So Sam’s standards are slipping in other areas as well."

    One store by which this criteria was not met.

    It’s called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.

    What a joke.

    So when companies use gov’t fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is “negotiation” for the greater good.

    If we suggest the citizenry have gov’t look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus’s world. Nice.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Corvinus is nothing but a bloviating hack - a contrarian solely for the sake of being contrary. If you say the sky is blue, he'll gain say it. He's a rather dim-witted non-entity.
    , @Corvinus
    "So when companies use gov’t fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is “negotiation” for the greater good."

    Except the majority people aren't getting "hosed". They elected officials who promised job creation. Conservatives in those positions offer generous tax incentives and other benefits to lure companies, and refrain from imposing their will on how these companies manage their own property.

    "If we suggest the citizenry have gov’t look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus’s world".

    Remember, the general public also includes businesses. They have every liberty to get a better deal from government and practically beg for less interference when it comes to hiring practices.
  82. @Corvinus
    Walmart and similar companies are simply managing their own property and focusing on their bottom line...profits. That is capitalism in the raw. Do you propose to interfere with their business operations? Business executives since the dawn of time have been primarily concerned with making money for themselves and their shareholders.

    Again, how do you plan to force them into submission to adhere to economic nationalism without raising consumer prices and curtailing technological innovations? Please be detailed and complete.

    Walmart and other companies are designing business plans within the context of the policies of the government of the United States. If the policies change, then they will change their own practices accordingly. That is why government economic and immigration policies and enforcement are so important.

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  83. @Opinionator
    Tucker’s was a good response, but frankly I’m not averse to saying, “They want to come to pick crops, okay, but they have to get a seasonal green card.”

    But first, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship.

    “But first, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship.”

    Hear! Hear!

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  84. @Corvinus
    "And they are doing so by using public subsidies – the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs."

    Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time.

    "And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist."

    That's anti-American.

    "By cutting off their source of cheap labor."

    Then you are interfering with a company's liberty to operate as how it sees fit. Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?

    "And who says that “without raising consumer prices” is a necessity? I’d be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country."

    Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits.

    “Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time.”

    That isn’t what I meant. I was referring to medicaid, the EIC, and various other forms of welfare. And, in the case of illegal aliens, schooling, prisons, etc.

    ““And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.”

    No, it isn’t “anti-American”. You are anti-American as far as I am concerned. And, by the way, you didn’t understand what I was saying when I said I am not a capitalist.

    “Then you are interfering with a company’s liberty to operate as how it sees fit.”

    It is not interfering with their liberty to enforce our immigration laws. What they are doing is not liberty, but license. I am not obligated to support them gaming our system and enriching themselves at our expense.

    “Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?”

    Then they should go out of business. I don’t care.

    “Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits.”

    Imagine what being impoverished and out of work does to the purchasing power of consumers?

    You really are a dull-witted little establishment drone, aren’t you. Is there a single thought in your head that wasn’t stuffed in there by the oligarchic elite and their media stooges? Evidently, you’re no good at thinking for yourself.

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  85. @bomag

    It’s called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.
     
    What a joke.

    So when companies use gov't fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is "negotiation" for the greater good.

    If we suggest the citizenry have gov't look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus's world. Nice.

    Corvinus is nothing but a bloviating hack – a contrarian solely for the sake of being contrary. If you say the sky is blue, he’ll gain say it. He’s a rather dim-witted non-entity.

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  86. @Corvinus
    "“Capitalism” can no longer be the organizing principle of our society."

    Wow, just wow.

    "they will do so, but within bounds imposed on them by government like for example, “you have to hire Americans at fair wages”."

    That's called coercion. I thought conservatives advocated freedom of association and free market principles.

    "Fines, prison, lynch mobs."

    How anti-capitalist of you to suggest.

    “That’s called coercion.”

    Only by people like you.

    “I thought conservatives advocated freedom of association and free market principles.”

    Conservatives advocate the conservation of their society, their people, and their nation. What you’re talking about – and are apparently too stupid to know – are libertarians.

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  87. @Achmed E. Newman
    Not Wanting America to be "A Colony of the World" Is McCarthyite

    I do understand the humor/irony in this headline, Steve, but regarding for Tail Gunner* Joe McCarthy, the term McCarthyite really cheeses me off, especially once I learned more of his story. The LP has been up to their games for a long time, though it wasn't so blatant back then. I haven't read Ann Coulter's book about the real story of Senator Joe McCarthy against the commie infiltration, only excerpts. I have no reason to doubt Miss Coulter, as I've never caught her in deliberate or any kind of error.

    It sounds like Tail Gunner McCarthy was on the right track, but he wasn't able to finish his work. That is getting pretty obvious to everyone now, as the commies have indeed infiltrated more areas of our society than even Senator Joe could have imagined.

    Anyway, I hate the slur on his name, as it's become a dictionary word now. It is really interesting to read (from VDare first the other day) that the left-wing Eugene was so wise in his views on immigration - a lot of the commies in high positions have always "meant well", but plenty of evil can come from "meaning well". It's just that, back in the days of Eugene McCarthy, the hard-lefties in America just weren't so damn stupid!

    (the useful idiot, majority of leftists have always been pretty damn stupid)





    * not said in any disparaging way, as this guy was a US Marine in the Pacific during WWII - he was in a dive bomber group, so I'm not sure how he could have been a "tail" gunner, just a gunner.

    I hope they don’t mean tail gunner in the Lindsey Graham sense.

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  88. @bomag

    It’s called negotiated incentives between government and companies to increase economic growth and raise tax revenues.
     
    What a joke.

    So when companies use gov't fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is "negotiation" for the greater good.

    If we suggest the citizenry have gov't look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus's world. Nice.

    “So when companies use gov’t fiat powers to hose the bulk of the citizenry, it is “negotiation” for the greater good.”

    Except the majority people aren’t getting “hosed”. They elected officials who promised job creation. Conservatives in those positions offer generous tax incentives and other benefits to lure companies, and refrain from imposing their will on how these companies manage their own property.

    “If we suggest the citizenry have gov’t look out for their interests, it becomes undue coercion in Corvinus’s world”.

    Remember, the general public also includes businesses. They have every liberty to get a better deal from government and practically beg for less interference when it comes to hiring practices.

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  89. @Corvinus
    "And they are doing so by using public subsidies – the public subsidizes their workforce, defrays their labor costs."

    Negotiated incentives between a government and the business to stimulate job growth and tax revenue. Please be specific next time.

    "And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist."

    That's anti-American.

    "By cutting off their source of cheap labor."

    Then you are interfering with a company's liberty to operate as how it sees fit. Moreover, who is to say that the company will hire more native workers and pay them better wages?

    "And who says that “without raising consumer prices” is a necessity? I’d be happy to see consumer prices raised in order to have a decent country."

    Rising prices inevitably reduce the purchasing power of consumers and reduce innovation due to decline profits.

    “And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.

    Lol! You know, the notion that “corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else” was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it’s quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970.

    You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class — which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers — gave way to the new Jewish ruling class, which preferred a financialization of the economy, which was bad for workers because it preached that profits mattered above all else. Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it.

    No, it was all about profits now. This led, quite logically when you start with a corrupt notion, to support for out-sourcing, in-sourcing, unchecked immigration, wage stagnation and so forth, all while the executive class, the wealthy investors and the banks took an ever greater percentage of the profits.

    And who wrote this article that started it all? Why, (((Milton Friedman))) publishing it in the (((New York Times))). It’s almost like something deliberate was going on. But that would be crazy talk.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/#1dfe71bb870e

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    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School's theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.
    , @Corvinus
    "Lol! You know, the notion that “corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else” was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it’s quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970."

    It's not a new idea. Andrew Carnegie best encapsulated this concept when he stated that "we accept and welcome, therefore, as conditions to which we must accommodate ourselves, great inequality of environment, the concentration of business, industrial and commercial, in the hands of a few, and the law of competition between these, as not only being beneficial, but essential for the future progress of the race."

    "You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class — which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers — gave way to the new Jewish ruling class..."

    By the 1970's, the manufacturing sector in the United States had come to a screeching halt due to a host of factors--outdated machinery, outsourcing, competition from upstarts in technology (e.g. Taiwan, Japan, China), not Jewish manipulation.

    "Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it."

    Carnegie and Rockefeller had been beholden to bringing in cheap labor at low wages to maximize their profits. The public be damned. Were you asleep in American history class as a junior in high school?
  90. @Buffalo Joe
    Formerly,, I can lease that car for $399 a month and at 71 I won't pay SS. You can claim exempt on a W-2 and worry about your taxes on April 15th. Years ago on big construction projects with lots of overtime (seven days a week, 12 hour days) you checked the exempt box and settled up at the end. No city tax here and that lease price includes tax and fees. Living in WNY is pretty reasonable.

    If you underpay your taxes throughout the year, you’ll be hit with big penalties come tax time. We have a client that’s been making good money and claiming himself “exempt” on his taxes. Now he’s got a huge bill and a giant penalty. Russian, of course.

    We both collect SS and pay into it. My husband has Medicare and pays taxes into it.

    Death and taxes, count on both!

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  91. Except the majority people aren’t getting “hosed”. They elected officials who promised job creation. Conservatives in those positions offer generous tax incentives and other benefits to lure companies, and refrain from imposing their will on how these companies manage their own property.

    So, you’re like the immigrant who steps off the gangplank, turns around, and says to the guy behind him, “go home, you filthy immigrant!”

    All the imposing of the will of leftists (diversity over merit, PC, etc.) is great. But now it should be frozen in amber, and ruled as something other than “imposing the will,” so you can rule out “imposing of the will” on property rights.

    You’re quite the rigorous thinker. And honest, let’s not forget honest.

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  92. @peterike

    “And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.
     

    Lol! You know, the notion that "corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else" was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it's quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970.

    You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class -- which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers -- gave way to the new Jewish ruling class, which preferred a financialization of the economy, which was bad for workers because it preached that profits mattered above all else. Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it.

    No, it was all about profits now. This led, quite logically when you start with a corrupt notion, to support for out-sourcing, in-sourcing, unchecked immigration, wage stagnation and so forth, all while the executive class, the wealthy investors and the banks took an ever greater percentage of the profits.

    And who wrote this article that started it all? Why, (((Milton Friedman))) publishing it in the (((New York Times))). It's almost like something deliberate was going on. But that would be crazy talk.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/#1dfe71bb870e

    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School’s theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.

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    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School’s theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.
     
    Indeed, good point. There are the idea men -- typically academic or think tank types -- and then those that put ideas into actions. Though the ideas do come first. As Richard M. Weaver used to say, "Ideas have consequences."
    , @Desiderius
    Meh. It had more to do with the weakness/fecklessness of countervailing institutions than it did with pursuing actual shareholder wealth. Do you have evidence that Milken actually had any more success with that than his competitors?

    I really don't think you want to get lost in the SJW weeds of stakeholder rights.

  93. @Steve Sailer
    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School's theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.

    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School’s theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.

    Indeed, good point. There are the idea men — typically academic or think tank types — and then those that put ideas into actions. Though the ideas do come first. As Richard M. Weaver used to say, “Ideas have consequences.”

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  94. @peterike

    “And who says we should like it? I don’t. I am not a capitalist.”

    That’s anti-American.
     

    Lol! You know, the notion that "corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else" was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it's quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970.

    You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class -- which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers -- gave way to the new Jewish ruling class, which preferred a financialization of the economy, which was bad for workers because it preached that profits mattered above all else. Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it.

    No, it was all about profits now. This led, quite logically when you start with a corrupt notion, to support for out-sourcing, in-sourcing, unchecked immigration, wage stagnation and so forth, all while the executive class, the wealthy investors and the banks took an ever greater percentage of the profits.

    And who wrote this article that started it all? Why, (((Milton Friedman))) publishing it in the (((New York Times))). It's almost like something deliberate was going on. But that would be crazy talk.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/#1dfe71bb870e

    “Lol! You know, the notion that “corporations must maximize the profits of their shareholders above all else” was not handed down by the Lord as the 11th commandment. In fact, it’s quite a new idea. Indeed it can be traced to a New York Times article of Sept. 13, 1970.”

    It’s not a new idea. Andrew Carnegie best encapsulated this concept when he stated that “we accept and welcome, therefore, as conditions to which we must accommodate ourselves, great inequality of environment, the concentration of business, industrial and commercial, in the hands of a few, and the law of competition between these, as not only being beneficial, but essential for the future progress of the race.”

    “You see, the 70s was truly when the old WASP ruling class — which had given America a manufacturing and extraction economy which was good for workers — gave way to the new Jewish ruling class…”

    By the 1970′s, the manufacturing sector in the United States had come to a screeching halt due to a host of factors–outdated machinery, outsourcing, competition from upstarts in technology (e.g. Taiwan, Japan, China), not Jewish manipulation.

    “Tossed was the idea that a corporation was somehow beholden to the nation that supported it, or the workers that labored for it.”

    Carnegie and Rockefeller had been beholden to bringing in cheap labor at low wages to maximize their profits. The public be damned. Were you asleep in American history class as a junior in high school?

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  95. @Steve Sailer
    Michael Milken was, more than anybody else, the guy who turned the Chicago School's theories of maximizing shareholder wealth as not the main thing but the only thing into a reality.

    Meh. It had more to do with the weakness/fecklessness of countervailing institutions than it did with pursuing actual shareholder wealth. Do you have evidence that Milken actually had any more success with that than his competitors?

    I really don’t think you want to get lost in the SJW weeds of stakeholder rights.

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