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From Global News:

Signs intended to create racial tension posted at University of Toronto
By Mark Carcasole
Reporter Global News

A series of controversial posters already spotted on school campuses in many parts of the U.S. and in Edmonton and Saskatoon have popped up on at least one campus in Toronto.

The signs reading “it’s okay to be white,” may be offensive to some, but that would be playing right into the hands of those responsible. It’s part of an online gag aimed specifically at raising racial tensions.

“I don’t think it’s ever not been okay to be white,” laughed U of T student Daniel Rebelo while walking to class.

“I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”

Marcella Bollers works and goes to school at the university. She refers to the posters as “sad, pathetic and funny,” attributing them to people who feel threatened by equality.

“Racialized people are pushing back and they’re being heard more. I think the media are paying attention to them more and I think the momentum is building … and people don’t like that,” she said.

… “We were alerted to the posters by members of the community, and immediately notified Campus Police, who have also notified Toronto Police,” said an email for the school’s media relations team.

“Posters that don’t comply with procedures are removed by caretaking and grounds staff. Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.

 
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  1. JerryC says:

    “Racialized people” – nice Freudian slip.

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    • Replies: @larry lurker
    From the Ontario Human Rights Commission's "Racial discrimination, race and racism" "fact" sheet:

    Recognizing that race is a social construct, the Commission describes people as “racialized person” or “racialized group” instead of the more outdated and inaccurate terms “racial minority”. “visible minority”, “person of colour” or “non-White”.
     
    , @Altai
    It's actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can't pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population. (Ie, a Japanese person is 'racialized' outside Japan, but not in Japan) So it could exclude mixed race people who look or are European enough not to have any issue identifying with the core over other groups or at all. It can also include any other group which for whatever reason (Size, time, context) continues a distinct identity despite them not being a 'visible minority' and it theoretically being possible to assimilate. An example could be Jews or to a much lesser degree in modern times Greeks and Italians in Australia, Ukrainians in Canada.

    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic 'other' to the dominant population and vice versa.

    , @Grandpa Charlie
    I did nor know the meaning of "racialized people" ... and now after Dr. Freud has been called in, I still don't know ... and I suspect that the phrase means nothing.
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  2. TangoMan says:

    Marcella Bollers works and goes to school at the university. She refers to the posters as “sad, pathetic and funny,” attributing them to people who feel threatened by equality.

    Leftists benefit tremendously from having such a simple to express and reasonable sounding viewpoint. How can the Right match that view? “Threatened by equality” translates into laws which privilege minorities at the expense of Whites, laws which bequeath to minorities the societal inheritance bequeathed to Whites by THEIR ANCESTORS, laws which trample freedom of association in order to create equal outcomes for minorities which they can’t achieve on their own, etc, etc. All of that is portrayed as “equality.”

    Maybe “You’re stealing from my heritage, go back and develop the heritage your ancestors left to you” is something to play around with.

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    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @anonymous

    You’re stealing from my heritage, go back and develop the heritage your ancestors left to you” is something to play around with.
     
    How about #StopAppropriatingWhiteTechnology ??

    ..that would include pretty much anything that runs on electricity, anything that has a wheel, anything that is made of metal...
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  3. Trelane says:

    Messages like this [it's okay to be white] are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,”

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    • Replies: @Simon in London
    They should try reposting "It's ok to be white" beneath a picture of black & white hands shaking hands. See if that gets the same reaction.

    Could also repost it below "Jesus loves the little children - ALL the little children of the world".

    And below "STOP THE HATE".

    , @Forbes
    Then the university better reconsider its commitment. Antithetical means opposite. So there commitment means it's NOT okay to be white.
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  4. Racialized people are pushing back and they’re being heard more. I think the media are paying attention to them more and I think the momentum is building … and people don’t like that,” she said.

    Ha ha. Her statement can be flipped around, and she doesn’t even know it:

    Racialized white people are pushing back! … and people like her don’t like that.

    I think the momentum is building

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    • Agree: BenKenobi, NickG
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    she definitely sounds like a dingbat. She should be forced to explain what "racialized" means. And, she would have to state if her university despises those types of students. White students should refrain from applying and attending Universities that are hostile to them. It's quite easy. Parents should refrain from paying tuition to these types of bullshit Uni's. There are reference books that focus on conservative/traditional U's...and have been for a few years, now.
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  5. TangoMan says:

    There was no racial tension at the University of Toronto when all of the students were White, therefore it is the presence of minorities, not these posters, which is creating and raising tensions on the campus.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "There was no racial tension at the University of Toronto when all of the students were White, therefore it is the presence of minorities, not these posters, which is creating and raising tensions on the campus."

    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend. As a result, there was a movement to ensure that non-whites would be able to secure an education here.

    Now, the better meme is that "it's ok to be a person". That's something that normies get on board with.
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  6. The real question is going to be what is done to a student who is finally caught, or simply admits to, putting up these posters.

    How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?

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    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?"


    They don't care how they look as long as the institutional financing keeps flowing in.
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  7. TangoMan says:

    Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.

    “It’s OK to be Gay.” Are those posters signaling a message antithetical to diversity, equity and inclusion?

    I wonder if classes in Public Relations focus on developing the skill of constructing statements to the press which lead to favored conclusion through the use of lack of arguments. See, they called the police, implying that this is a very serious crime. See, they’ve stated that such posters are an attack on core values. How did these conclusions come about? Who the hell knows, they’re just assumed to be serious conclusions.

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    “It’s OK to be Gay.” Are those posters signaling a message antithetical to diversity, equity and inclusion?
     
    Steve has written before about gays coming out of the closet and subsequently certain industries and endeavors, especially of the more artistic sort with a higher gay representation, becoming more gay as a result and more associated with homosexuality. So in effect coming out campaigns did in some respects promote less diversity, inclusion, etc. whatever you want to call it. Presumably the logic behind this campaign is similar.
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  8. Don’t forget one of the key tenets of the Progressive Catechism:
    For white people, losing privilege on the way to equality feels like oppression.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    I'm happy to lose the white privilege of giving way to others for the sake of diversity, affirmative action, and inclusion. I prefer freedom of association, and would rather not practice tokenism. If that's oppression--bring it on.
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  9. newrouter says:

    In sad in a way it is fun to provoke the religiously committed. Next: >It is OK to be an Infidel. <?

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    • Replies: @Thea
    Yes I like phrasing it as a question as it opens a dialog and they have to admit they don't want dialog.
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  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @TangoMan
    Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.

    "It's OK to be Gay." Are those posters signaling a message antithetical to diversity, equity and inclusion?

    I wonder if classes in Public Relations focus on developing the skill of constructing statements to the press which lead to favored conclusion through the use of lack of arguments. See, they called the police, implying that this is a very serious crime. See, they've stated that such posters are an attack on core values. How did these conclusions come about? Who the hell knows, they're just assumed to be serious conclusions.

    “It’s OK to be Gay.” Are those posters signaling a message antithetical to diversity, equity and inclusion?

    Steve has written before about gays coming out of the closet and subsequently certain industries and endeavors, especially of the more artistic sort with a higher gay representation, becoming more gay as a result and more associated with homosexuality. So in effect coming out campaigns did in some respects promote less diversity, inclusion, etc. whatever you want to call it. Presumably the logic behind this campaign is similar.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    What "industries" exactly had a high percentage of homosexuals but were NOT "associated with homosexuality" previously? Did interior decorating become less macho? Is that what happened to all those working class jobs, straight men didn't want to be associated with homosexual industries like auto making and refrigerators?
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  11. Lagertha says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Racialized people are pushing back and they’re being heard more. I think the media are paying attention to them more and I think the momentum is building … and people don’t like that,” she said.
     
    Ha ha. Her statement can be flipped around, and she doesn't even know it:

    Racialized white people are pushing back! ... and people like her don't like that.

    I think the momentum is building

    she definitely sounds like a dingbat. She should be forced to explain what “racialized” means. And, she would have to state if her university despises those types of students. White students should refrain from applying and attending Universities that are hostile to them. It’s quite easy. Parents should refrain from paying tuition to these types of bullshit Uni’s. There are reference books that focus on conservative/traditional U’s…and have been for a few years, now.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    You know, if the Lazy & Stupid Yet Ostensibly Conservative –not people like Steve's readers, but the type who claim conservative outrage at all the globohomo crazy but then get right back to focusing on underpaying Mexican helots to mow lawns and remodel their kitchens, buying cheap Chinese shit from Mega-Lo-Mart, and subsidising the NFL and Hollywood with the tee-vee and picture-show between re-electing Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell every few years – if those types actually gave a damn about anything, and put just the slightest effort into actually living their professed values in this one area of life (education), then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.
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  12. Tim says:

    I like how everybody JUST KNOWS the malicious intent of the people who leave these signs.

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    I like how everybody JUST KNOWS the malicious intent of the people who leave these signs.
     
    Considering that the sign campaign was planned openly on /pol/, it's not hard to figure out the intent: Bait the anti-white media to overreact and redpill normies.
    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-okay-to-be-white
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  13. Wilkey says:

    “How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?”

    Yep. Any punishment against students caught putting up these signs will boomerang.

    “Why did you expel this student?”
    “Because he put up a racist sign.”
    “What did the racist sign say?”
    “It said ‘It’s OK to be white.”
    “Do you mean it’s not OK to be white?”
    {Crickets}

    How many interviews have these administrators given about this controversy? How many have they given to outlets that might actually challenge their pat, PR department answers?

    The next step, I think, is for students to start getting in their faces with cell phones and asking them to respond and posting the results on social media. It won’t be pretty.

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    • Replies: @Adena Properties
    {Crickets}

    I just love the f%^*ing Crickets: They manage to say pretty much everything, now don't they.
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  14. All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don’t care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

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    Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don’t care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities.
     
    Oh no, they care deeply about Aboriginals (as a cudgel to hit white people over the head with): http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/dalhousie-student-leader-faces-backlash-for-criticizing-white-fragility

    “At this point, f–k you all. I stand by the motion I put forward. I stand by Indigenous students. … Be proud of this country? For what, over 400 years of genocide? #unlearn150 #whitefragilitycankissmyass #yourwhitetearsarentsacredthislandis” – Masuma Khan
     
    , @Maj. Kong
    I doubt there will be any serious backlash outside of Quebec, that Sikh NDP leader is going over like a lead balloon there. Their worse economy has shifted the foreigners to the more prosperous GTA and Western Provinces.

    Preston Manning smothered Western Independence in the cradle, now it is demographically impossible short of Yugoslav level violence. Has anyone suggested a better name than "Western Canada" ?

    , @AngloBerserkerJew
    Right on. The typical Canadian newcomer has zero knowledge of Canada outside of the major city he lives in (typically Toronto or Vancouver) and less interest in finding out. We did this to ourselves, starting in the Pearson era. Hurray for Blank Slate-ism!
    , @Toronto_Mike
    I agree with you completely but would add one additional point;

    Most white Canadians also don't know or care about the historical facts you list. Sad but true.
    , @Olorin

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.
     
    I'm curious to hear from a genuine leaf what you think Tommy Douglas's reaction to all this would have been.

    David Lewis or Ed Broadbent? Any thoughts?

    I think I can guess what Jack Layton would have thought. Maybe also Alexa McDonough.

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  15. Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.

    This meme campaign has been brilliant, no hyperbole. There can be only one interpretation of the University’s statement: “Diversity, equity and inclusion” explicitly does not apply to whites, whose existence is not okay.

    I don’t know about the laws in Canada, but if more and more schools in the U.S. officially order removals of “Okay To Be White” messages from common message boards, there are grounds for major civil rights penalties against the institutions.

    Jeff Sessions, get on this!

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    • Replies: @Bubba
    I wish I was as optimistic as you, but Jeff Sessions has a very low IQ (he's a real dope) and who still wants to regulate marijuana and control all social media! That train left Sentientville 60 years ago. And Sessions' DOJ is still run by Holder/Lynch leftover black radical sycophants trying to impeach President Trump. Sessions is totally removed from reality and needs a psychiatrist - as AG he is a complete failure.
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    “To Lido Pimienta: we are sorry that one of our volunteers interrupted your art, your show, and your audience by being aggressive and racist,” the statement also said. “We have so much respect for the art and music you create and the space you make for women, people of color, transgender, and nonbinary people. The way you interact with the world acts and provides a thoughtful example. You are a role model to us and many people in our community. We see it. We feel it. We hope you will work with us again.”
     
    Now bend down for a good whipping.


    What did Pimienta have to say afterward?

    “I never asked white folks to leave my show, I would never do that,” Pimienta noted in an email Q&A with Billboard. “I never ask men to leave my show, I ask them to share the space in a more significant manner as an act of love and solidarity with people who, outside of the music show bubble, have to constantly justify their existence to the world.”
     
    TOP. ONION.
    , @Paul Yarbles
    Some people, like this Lido Pimienta chick, must get a real thrill out of humiliating groups of people they don't like. Hatred has a home there (at her concerts).
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  17. RudyM says:

    Son de Cali never told me to move to the back of the crowd, but then, they are Colombians living in Colombia, not SJW-indoctrinated immigrants in Canada or the U.S.

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  18. eah says:

    Amazing how this reporter divined the motive; he should work for the police or the DA — also how likely is it that had ‘procedures been complied with’, the posting of these would have been allowed? — given the general reaction.

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    https://twitter.com/Brannon1776/status/927377085664059392
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  19. Still waiting for the appearance of the “It be ok to be black” signs.

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    D-d-do you b-believe it's okay to be white? is the new Do you believe that black lives MATTER?!?!?@!?
    , @Autochthon
    You axin' fuh trubble.
    , @nuk

    Still waiting for the appearance of the “It be ok to be black” signs.
     
    It should be "It's okay to be black again" just to add a little flavor flav.

    Always keep 'em guessing!
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  20. eah says:
    @eah
    Amazing how this reporter divined the motive; he should work for the police or the DA -- also how likely is it that had 'procedures been complied with', the posting of these would have been allowed? -- given the general reaction.

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  21. BenKenobi says:

    You know the thing about chaos?

    It’s fair.

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  22. @Wilkey
    "How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?"

    Yep. Any punishment against students caught putting up these signs will boomerang.

    "Why did you expel this student?"
    "Because he put up a racist sign."
    "What did the racist sign say?"
    "It said 'It's OK to be white."
    "Do you mean it's not OK to be white?"
    {Crickets}

    How many interviews have these administrators given about this controversy? How many have they given to outlets that might actually challenge their pat, PR department answers?

    The next step, I think, is for students to start getting in their faces with cell phones and asking them to respond and posting the results on social media. It won't be pretty.

    {Crickets}

    I just love the f%^*ing Crickets: They manage to say pretty much everything, now don’t they.

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    LOL. Actually I lied. You'd probably get to {Crickets} by the time you asked the administrator what the sign said, because they'd know by then exactly how effing ridiculous they looked.

    "What did the racist sign say?"
    "Well it said some pretty terrible things, actually. Things we don't tolerate at a diverse university such as ours."
    "What did it say?"
    "They used exclusivist language that denigrated the value of other races."
    "What did it say?"
    "It was language that needs to be banned from universities because it's meant to instill fear in those in our university."
    "What did it say?"
    {Crickets}

    Acceptable, non-racist language: "Black is beautiful."
    Acceptable, non-racist language: "Immigrants are better, harder working people than native-born Americans."
    Unacceptable, racist language: "It's OK to be white."
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  23. police: dispatch!
    u toronto: yes someone posted a sign here saying, “it’s ok to be white.”
    police: uhhh…ok…

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    You laugh... but the Toronto police began a similar manhunt last year when someone put up a poster in a municipal park advertising TakiMag and other Alt-Right websites:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/toronto-residents-hate-hate-hate-freedom-of-expression/
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  24. What does Jordan Peterson have to say about this? This is happening in his own back yard.

    Ironically, just last week the local SJWs attempted to smear Dr. Peterson by posting posters of him all over town labeling him a racist, hater, Nazi, etc.

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    What does Jordan Peterson have to say about this? This is happening in his own back yard.
     
    A few moths back he was on Rogan's podcast together with Brett Weinstein (the Evergreen State professor who was the catalyst for the fringe riots there) and his take on identity politics was that it was the Left playing with fire in that it has promoted the coalescing of a white identity. If everyone on the fringes is going to define themselves as against white, they're by default creating a white identity even in that negative sense.

    He would probably say that the University's reaction to the posters is further fuel for that fire.
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  25. Medvedev says:

    “I don’t think it’s ever not been okay to be white,”

    Yeah, that’s why school administration immediately notified Campus Police, Toronto Police and sent a statement to public that they won’t tolerate messages like this. Basically implying that this is serious crime. Gee, rape accusations aren’t taken so seriously and sometimes covered up by administration.

    “I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”

    I am sure this genius won’t find it difficult to substantiate his claims on how persecuted people of other races are in Canada. Like, eh, ah, you know, eh, ah … let me help “As POC we feel disenfranchised, persecuted and struggle with hate and exclusion. As a white person you have now idea how we feel and what we have to go through every day … blah, blah, blah”

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  26. abby says:

    Back in the sixties, there was an activity called “guerrilla theater.” I think it got started in San Francisco. The object of the “players” was to use unknowing real people as co-stars, and improvise scenes without their knowledge to expose their hypocrisy.

    It was a bit like “Candid Camera” but with political or social aims. It was quite popular for a time.

    One could call it, “public satire.”

    Anyway, the minute I read this was going on, on college campuses, I felt intuitively that’s what these college students were engaging in. I don’t know if they just did it spontaneously–seems too clever for that–or the author heard about “guerrilla theater,” and decided to try it for fun.

    But it is working it’s magic, just like it did back in the day.

    Oh, look at me, after I typed all that I looked it up, and it’s history is in Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_theatre

    In any case, if they haven’t discovered it already, I believe once college kids get the idea of “guerrilla theater” in their heads, in this political climate, we’ll be seeing more social tomfuckery than we can shake a stick at.

    All said and done, “it’s okay to be white” is a classic guerrilla theater move. If I were a college student, I’d certainly indulge myself with gluing posters featuring that missive in odd places about campus.

    And then I would laugh and laugh.

    College is boring. Making stupid people deconstruct themselves is fun.

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    Offshoot of Situationism IIRC.
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  27. El Dato says:
    @RudyM
    Canada, you say?

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/01/singer-asked-whites-to-move-to-back-of-audience-people-of-color-to-move-to-front-then-it-got-ugly/

    “To Lido Pimienta: we are sorry that one of our volunteers interrupted your art, your show, and your audience by being aggressive and racist,” the statement also said. “We have so much respect for the art and music you create and the space you make for women, people of color, transgender, and nonbinary people. The way you interact with the world acts and provides a thoughtful example. You are a role model to us and many people in our community. We see it. We feel it. We hope you will work with us again.”

    Now bend down for a good whipping.

    What did Pimienta have to say afterward?

    “I never asked white folks to leave my show, I would never do that,” Pimienta noted in an email Q&A with Billboard. “I never ask men to leave my show, I ask them to share the space in a more significant manner as an act of love and solidarity with people who, outside of the music show bubble, have to constantly justify their existence to the world.”

    TOP. ONION.

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    Pimienta added that “90 percent of people who attend my shows and get the ‘Lido Pimienta reconfigures the room’ experience LOVE IT. The outpouring of [comments like] ‘thank you for allowing me to see how brown folks at [these] shows are clearly a minority’ outgrow the comments of hate.
     
    Maybe because it's Canada? Maybe if you didn't want to live somewhere where brown people are a minority, you could have stayed in Colombia?

    Also, I love the idea that somehow brown and black women are shrinking violets who remain in the background. That was not my experience while living in Philadelphia.
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  28. These assholes are not bound by logic. Tho they preach “fairness,” actually being fair requires recognizing that white males do in fact have rights and some emotional labor must be doled out on their behalf. That’s very offensive. White man have enough! Enough!
    If they catch the kid who did this he’ll be hit with hate crime bullshit. They’ll make him pay. Bigly.

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  29. Medvedev says:

    Lib: The phrase itself is not racist. Everybody know that it’s OK to be white. But racists behind this and the intent to threaten diversity should be considered a hate crime.
    Other: How do you know the intent if you don’t know who did this?

    The liberal “logic” is simple: Poster is racist because it was put up by racist with racist intent. Person who did this is racist because he put up racist poster.

    The idiocy of such “logic” should be clear to anyone with IQ above retardation level. But, sadly, logic and reasoning has no place in liberal thinking. Current liberal left ideology is based on dogmas: whites and whiteness are evil unless they serve to dismantle white privilege. The totem pole of privilege
    1. Straight white males are the core of evil (traditions, white culture, achievements). SWM should constantly apologize for his existence and dismantle white privilege. And even then he cannot be trusted.
    2. White females. Apparently white femi-nazis who hate their own race and especially white males are ok.
    3. Asians who are not white per say and usually are liberal. But they act white, poorly fit into oppressed minority myth and represent whiteness (terms like “model minority” etc) even though they just act like high-iq individuals who value education and achievements.
    4. White gays
    5. Latinas
    6. Blacks
    Combining several categories can give you bonus points :)
    Where are jews in this hierarchy? Their position isn’t easy to define and may depend and change based on circumstances.

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  30. Speaking of Canada, what’s going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we’ve been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

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    Yeah, where the hell are the 2Kevins? I think they were one of the best of our podcasts. Other worthies: Rebel Yell, Z-man, the Fatherland, Ascending the Tower.
    , @Ganderson
    My question too.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I didn't get the impression that there was any hostility between them. Of course, Grace was constantly interrupting Steele to continue some point, but he was doing that from the show's inception and it seemed like part of the routine. My guess is that they weren't getting enough in the way of financial support to justify the effort. They had alluded to that from time to time.
    , @Not That Miami
    Great handle. It reminds me of an anecdote I heard but can't remember the source: A student reading Heidegger for the first time wonders why he should even bother with M.H. when all he does is cite this other fellow. Probably best just to go straight to the works of Dasein.
    , @anon
    Kevin Michael Grace was having some kind of undisclosed health problems for awhile now. They only came back for the Zoe Quinn episode.

    I don't know if you saw the particular cryptic notice from Kevin Steel where he said he hadn't heard from Grace for a couple of weeks, and messages and e-mails sent to Grace weren't replied to. The day after that was the day Steel announced that there would be no more shows.

    So I'm guessing it has something to do with that.

    It really is too bad. The show was always good, but it seemed to be improving all the time.

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  31. TangoMan says:

    Bug Report.

    A response to my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 2:58 am GMT

    And my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 3:38 am GMT

    What kind of voodoo has Ron programmed into the commenting software that such time paradoxes can arise?

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    Maybe the end of DST had something to do with it.
    , @Cloud of Probable Matricide
    Be careful! Time travel makes you gay.
    , @Autochthon
    It's – the Libyans!
    , @Forbes
    I didn't check time stamps, but yesterday (Sunday) I read a lot of replies that were posted ahead of the comment they were replying to. I assumed something in the ordering went awry during the "approval" process. Slightly humorous.
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  32. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    OT: Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond. That’s insane. The attacker should have been charged with a felony. It’s time to start impeaching liberal justices who keep trying to protect liberal criminals.

    The Texas church shooter was caught posing with the Antifa flag and posted that he was interested in liberal causes before his Facebook got scrubbed. He may have been a recent convert to Islam. He was court-martialed and kicked out of the Air Force for attacking his wife and child. It was illegal for him to have owned any type of gun since he had committed a felony when his attacked his family.

    It appears that Antifa’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because they way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

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    Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond.

    Here's the first information I have seen about his attacker, which casts some light on what otherwise might seem an inexplicable assault and battery (given that it was by a neighbor).

    The man responsible for attacking Sen. Rand Paul Friday afternoon was an avowed liberal who frequently fought with his neighbors about politics, according to a report Sunday from The Washington Post.

    Local citizens say Rene Boucher, the 59-year-old man who assaulted Paul, was a socialist who frequently fought with neighbors about health care policies and other liberal issues. Boucher and Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, they told reporters.

    Jeff Jones, a registered nurse who worked with Boucher at the Bowling Green Medical Center, described Paul’s attacker’s politics as “liberal.”

    “He was active on social media and said some negative things about the Republican agenda,” Jones said of Boucher, a Bowling Green, S.C., citizen who lives in the same gated community as Paul. “I think it was unfortunate that they lived so close together.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/neighbors-say-rand-pauls-attacker-was-an-avowed-socialist

     

    , @Laugh Track

    It appears that Antifa’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because they [sic] way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.
     
    In all fairness, more than one can play that game:

    It appears that ISIS’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    It appears that Alt-Right’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    It appears that Deep State’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    Granted, in the case of ISIS or Al Qaeda, they are happy to take credit for lone wolf attacks, whether they may have had anything to do with them or not. And since all of the entities above are decentralized and hardly monolithic, anyone can execute a lone wolf attack and anyone can take credit (especially when the lone wolf ends up dead, one way or another). Same goes for the "Anonymous" hackers, who could be anyone. It's all a Hall of Mirrors.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Canadian Observer
    All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don't care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

    Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don’t care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities.

    Oh no, they care deeply about Aboriginals (as a cudgel to hit white people over the head with): http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/dalhousie-student-leader-faces-backlash-for-criticizing-white-fragility

    “At this point, f–k you all. I stand by the motion I put forward. I stand by Indigenous students. … Be proud of this country? For what, over 400 years of genocide? #unlearn150 #whitefragilitycankissmyass #yourwhitetearsarentsacredthislandis” – Masuma Khan

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    From the cited article, responding to a student complaint against her comments as violating the University's code of conduct standards, Ms. Khan said the complaint against her targets her "free speech and identity" and she also used the term "racialized" students (must be new SJW speak).

    “People might say it wasn’t an appropriate response. You have to understand I deal with Islamophobia on the daily,” she said. “I’m the one that gets called a terrorist when I walk down the street.”

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for the university to tell racialized students how they can talk about their lived experiences,” Khan added. “Suggesting I should take some training about how to talk about racism, that’s incredibly invalidating.”

    So, self-defined "people of color" are "racialized" (no doubt viciously by whites), any challenge to her comments targets her "free speech and identity," and requiring her to take some diversity type training is "invalidating." Wonder how that would go for someone posting "It's OK To Be White."
    , @AndrewR
    Gee, Canada sure has been enriched by Muslim immigration
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  34. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Very poignant ending to this article:

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-legos-helped-build-a-classroom-lesson-on-white-privilege/article36610854/

    How Legos helped build a classroom lesson on white privilege
    Dakshana Bascaramurty

    … While students in social-studies classes in B.C., Ontario and Manitoba must learn about the disturbing history of the residential-school system, and those in Nova Scotia are taught about how black people in their own province were enslaved, the specific term “white privilege” is so charged that provinces have steered clear of explicitly addressing it in their curriculums.

    … But a growing number of educators, those who train them and the unions that represent them are taking on the challenge.

    … Back in Mississauga, after the whiteboard exercise in Ms. Hardy’s class, she led a discussion about white privilege with students, all of whom seemed receptive to the idea. Then she gave her class an assignment: Find a person of colour who has contributed something impressive to the world and create a poster about them. Students pulled out phones and tablets and began their work, typing some version of the query “people of colour who have done something amazing” into Google.

    One student simply searched “top most influential people” and landed on a magazine cover from 2010, featuring a grid of faces labelled 100 Most Influential People. Her eyes scanned the image, hopping from person to person, and then she called Ms. Hardy over to show it to her. Nearly all of the faces were white.

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  36. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    police: dispatch!
    u toronto: yes someone posted a sign here saying, "it's ok to be white."
    police: uhhh...ok...

    You laugh… but the Toronto police began a similar manhunt last year when someone put up a poster in a municipal park advertising TakiMag and other Alt-Right websites:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/toronto-residents-hate-hate-hate-freedom-of-expression/

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  37. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    Still waiting for the appearance of the "It be ok to be black" signs.

    D-d-do you b-believe it’s okay to be white? is the new Do you believe that black lives MATTER?!?!?@!?

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  38. bartok says:
    @Tim
    I like how everybody JUST KNOWS the malicious intent of the people who leave these signs.

    I like how everybody JUST KNOWS the malicious intent of the people who leave these signs.

    Considering that the sign campaign was planned openly on /pol/, it’s not hard to figure out the intent: Bait the anti-white media to overreact and redpill normies.

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-okay-to-be-white

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  39. hhsiii says:
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    Yes, I am a sinner!

    https://www.gospeloutreach.net/cantbesaved.html
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  40. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    At a celebration of the New Canadia of diverse non-White peoples, the Whites were forcibly excluded. Then BLM and black power groups burned down the buildings looting all the electronics and food. The Muslims declared Sharia Law and forcibly raped all the non virgins there. The aborigines declared they would annex the land and no longer listen to the government. China and Russia sat back and laughed.

    Your diversity seems unstable…

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  41. eah says:
    @TangoMan
    Bug Report.

    A response to my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 2:58 am GMT

    And my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 3:38 am GMT

    What kind of voodoo has Ron programmed into the commenting software that such time paradoxes can arise?

    Maybe the end of DST had something to do with it.

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    Your response to me is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 6:10 am GMT

    My comment, to which you are responding, is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 6:14 am GMT
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  42. Bubba says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.
     
    This meme campaign has been brilliant, no hyperbole. There can be only one interpretation of the University’s statement: “Diversity, equity and inclusion” explicitly does not apply to whites, whose existence is not okay.

    I don’t know about the laws in Canada, but if more and more schools in the U.S. officially order removals of “Okay To Be White” messages from common message boards, there are grounds for major civil rights penalties against the institutions.

    Jeff Sessions, get on this!

    I wish I was as optimistic as you, but Jeff Sessions has a very low IQ (he’s a real dope) and who still wants to regulate marijuana and control all social media! That train left Sentientville 60 years ago. And Sessions’ DOJ is still run by Holder/Lynch leftover black radical sycophants trying to impeach President Trump. Sessions is totally removed from reality and needs a psychiatrist – as AG he is a complete failure.

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  43. @JerryC
    "Racialized people" - nice Freudian slip.

    From the Ontario Human Rights Commission’s “Racial discrimination, race and racism” “fact” sheet:

    Recognizing that race is a social construct, the Commission describes people as “racialized person” or “racialized group” instead of the more outdated and inaccurate terms “racial minority”. “visible minority”, “person of colour” or “non-White”.

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    They are just moving the goalposts, as these types of scum always do. Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity, and are now a minority (or soon to be one) in even their own, few homelands, it won't do to ramble about how mestizos; Chinamen; Hindoo; Negroes; Amerindians; and one-eyed, one-horned, flying, purple, people-eaters are a "minority." Hence, they aren't oppressed, entitled to cash and prizes, and otherwise unable to compete with Evil White People Responsible for (Literally!) Almost All Human Progress not because they are a helpless minority without agency, no; rather, because they are ... er ... racialised persons.

    But, hey, at least all the others are safe from the purple ones, who only eat people – never persons.
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  44. “I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”

    Persecuted? In 2017?

    The indoctrination is strong in these campuses.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Persecuted? Well the propaganda and The Narrative say they're persecuted, so it must be so...
    , @guest
    The lying is strong.
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  45. @Intelligent Dasein
    Speaking of Canada, what's going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we've been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

    Yeah, where the hell are the 2Kevins? I think they were one of the best of our podcasts. Other worthies: Rebel Yell, Z-man, the Fatherland, Ascending the Tower.

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  46. @TangoMan
    Bug Report.

    A response to my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 2:58 am GMT

    And my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 3:38 am GMT

    What kind of voodoo has Ron programmed into the commenting software that such time paradoxes can arise?

    Be careful! Time travel makes you gay.

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  47. @Trelane
    Messages like this [it's okay to be white] are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,”

    They should try reposting “It’s ok to be white” beneath a picture of black & white hands shaking hands. See if that gets the same reaction.

    Could also repost it below “Jesus loves the little children – ALL the little children of the world”.

    And below “STOP THE HATE”.

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    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn't harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

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    OT

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  49. CCZ says:
    @Anonymous

    Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don’t care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities.
     
    Oh no, they care deeply about Aboriginals (as a cudgel to hit white people over the head with): http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/dalhousie-student-leader-faces-backlash-for-criticizing-white-fragility

    “At this point, f–k you all. I stand by the motion I put forward. I stand by Indigenous students. … Be proud of this country? For what, over 400 years of genocide? #unlearn150 #whitefragilitycankissmyass #yourwhitetearsarentsacredthislandis” – Masuma Khan
     

    From the cited article, responding to a student complaint against her comments as violating the University’s code of conduct standards, Ms. Khan said the complaint against her targets her “free speech and identity” and she also used the term “racialized” students (must be new SJW speak).

    “People might say it wasn’t an appropriate response. You have to understand I deal with Islamophobia on the daily,” she said. “I’m the one that gets called a terrorist when I walk down the street.”

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for the university to tell racialized students how they can talk about their lived experiences,” Khan added. “Suggesting I should take some training about how to talk about racism, that’s incredibly invalidating.”

    So, self-defined “people of color” are “racialized” (no doubt viciously by whites), any challenge to her comments targets her “free speech and identity,” and requiring her to take some diversity type training is “invalidating.” Wonder how that would go for someone posting “It’s OK To Be White.”

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    KHANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
    , @AndrewR
    "on the daily"

    Lmao at a moslem female in a canadian university talking like a black ghetto American yoof
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  50. TangoMan says:
    @eah
    Maybe the end of DST had something to do with it.

    Your response to me is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 6:10 am GMT

    My comment, to which you are responding, is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 6:14 am GMT

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  51. Logan says:
    @Simon in London
    They should try reposting "It's ok to be white" beneath a picture of black & white hands shaking hands. See if that gets the same reaction.

    Could also repost it below "Jesus loves the little children - ALL the little children of the world".

    And below "STOP THE HATE".

    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn’t harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

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    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.
     
    Yes. It does non-white people no favors, from a Christian point of view, to treat them as is they're exempt from certain forms of sin. It's dehumanizing and deceptive.
    , @Ganderson
    We’re at the point where nearly all negative interactions between a white person and a black person will be defined as white racism.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by "respectable" denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the "managerial elite" as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.
    , @Michaeloh59

    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.
     
    A Christian movie? Or a churchian movie.
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  52. There seems to be an amazing lack of imagination and intelligence among college students these days. That might be because too many people go to college who don’t belong there in the first place: too dumb, too lazy, or both.

    As for the few students who are not too dumb or too lazy, I should recommend they engage in communication guerilla and spread some confusion among the stupid majority. Excitement guaranteed!

    It’s ok to be stupid
    It’s ok to be lazy
    It’s ok not to use your two brain cells
    It’s ok to be a man
    It’s ok to be a woman
    It’s ok to be a negro
    It’s ok to be a dago
    It’s ok to be a spic
    It’s ok to be a kraut

    etc. etc.

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  53. @Logan
    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn't harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

    Yes. It does non-white people no favors, from a Christian point of view, to treat them as is they’re exempt from certain forms of sin. It’s dehumanizing and deceptive.

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  54. @Anon
    OT: Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond. That's insane. The attacker should have been charged with a felony. It's time to start impeaching liberal justices who keep trying to protect liberal criminals.

    The Texas church shooter was caught posing with the Antifa flag and posted that he was interested in liberal causes before his Facebook got scrubbed. He may have been a recent convert to Islam. He was court-martialed and kicked out of the Air Force for attacking his wife and child. It was illegal for him to have owned any type of gun since he had committed a felony when his attacked his family.

    It appears that Antifa's method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because they way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond.

    Here’s the first information I have seen about his attacker, which casts some light on what otherwise might seem an inexplicable assault and battery (given that it was by a neighbor).

    The man responsible for attacking Sen. Rand Paul Friday afternoon was an avowed liberal who frequently fought with his neighbors about politics, according to a report Sunday from The Washington Post.

    Local citizens say Rene Boucher, the 59-year-old man who assaulted Paul, was a socialist who frequently fought with neighbors about health care policies and other liberal issues. Boucher and Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, they told reporters.

    Jeff Jones, a registered nurse who worked with Boucher at the Bowling Green Medical Center, described Paul’s attacker’s politics as “liberal.”

    “He was active on social media and said some negative things about the Republican agenda,” Jones said of Boucher, a Bowling Green, S.C., citizen who lives in the same gated community as Paul. “I think it was unfortunate that they lived so close together.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/neighbors-say-rand-pauls-attacker-was-an-avowed-socialist

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    His wife told him to return the poor guy's weed whacker.
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  55. Ganderson says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Speaking of Canada, what's going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we've been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

    My question too.

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  56. Ganderson says:
    @Logan
    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn't harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

    We’re at the point where nearly all negative interactions between a white person and a black person will be defined as white racism.

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    We've been there for a long time, at least in the sense that white racism is the default assumption.

    We are perhaps approaching a situation where that defaul cannot be overridden even by evidence to the contrary.
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  57. Ganderson says:
    @CCZ
    From the cited article, responding to a student complaint against her comments as violating the University's code of conduct standards, Ms. Khan said the complaint against her targets her "free speech and identity" and she also used the term "racialized" students (must be new SJW speak).

    “People might say it wasn’t an appropriate response. You have to understand I deal with Islamophobia on the daily,” she said. “I’m the one that gets called a terrorist when I walk down the street.”

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for the university to tell racialized students how they can talk about their lived experiences,” Khan added. “Suggesting I should take some training about how to talk about racism, that’s incredibly invalidating.”

    So, self-defined "people of color" are "racialized" (no doubt viciously by whites), any challenge to her comments targets her "free speech and identity," and requiring her to take some diversity type training is "invalidating." Wonder how that would go for someone posting "It's OK To Be White."

    KHANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

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  58. Renoman says:

    Actually it’s great to be white, we run the show and we’re not gonna put up with much more poking.

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  59. Dr. X says:

    “We were alerted to the posters by members of the community, and immediately notified Campus Police, who have also notified Toronto Police,” said an email for the school’s media relations team.

    …and we delude ourselves into thinking that we live in the “free world” where there is no Gestapo or KGB… haaaaa!

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “White cisgender male isn’t beyond the pale.”

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  61. “I don’t think it’s ever not been okay to be white,”

    Life comes at you fast: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/358325-dnc-under-fire-over-job-ad

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  62. wow says:

    These signs pisss off the Lefties because the alternative to the sign makes them sound and look like asssholes and intolerant. They are frustrated that they’ve been outwitted.

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  63. @Logan
    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn't harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by “respectable” denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the “managerial elite” as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.

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    The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by “respectable” denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century.

     

    Yep. The unholy alliance of supposed virtue with globalist banking and capitalism. It's quite the force.

    Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the “managerial elite” as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?
     
    The last one, along with being corrupted by dregs of the managerial elite that like to dress up (or sometimes not) and use what acting talents they have in secure job. (<---Not really kidding on this last one. There is a huge overlap between "Do I want to be an actor?" or "Do I want to be priest/pastor" modernly.)

    I suspect 2nd or 3rd string in the clergy has been chronic problem through time. It's exploded in the modern era.

    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands.
     
    It's war on all fronts.
    Front one: Save yourself, if possible
    Front two: Save your family, if possible
    Front three: Outside forces actively hostile to Christianity, pushes for homosexuality, culture wars/degradation and the like
    Front four: Inside forces rotting Christianity from within and claiming Christian values are globalist values. Unfortunately, it's clear that most with the official megaphones inside all of Western Christianity are happy to be parasitic globalists, with only a tentative connection to Christian teaching, despite years of schooling in some cases. It's not entirely clear that they even believe in God or the Divinity of Christ in many cases.

    I haunt one or two Catholic boards. The occasional convert asks how do I join, wanting in (God bless them) and I find myself giving advise like: "Be as honest and positive as you can during RCIA (adult initiation rites) but double check everything they tell you. Keep your eye on the prize, the sacraments, they can't "undo it" once you have it. And then keep checking what people tell you."

    It's nuts. It's living the Onion.
    , @S. Anonyia
    It's not just mainline Protestantism.

    Perhaps it is deliberate, and there was some type of alphabet agency intrusion/infiltration/propaganda effort towards various denominations to make them more friendly towards the government and business? In the new JFK files the CIA mentions that many "churchmen" are working for them and assisting them in some way.

    , @Desiderius
    Been that way for a long time.

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801396,00.html

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/time42.htm

    American Malvern

    Monday, Mar. 16, 1942
    Religion: American Malvern

    These are the high spots of organized U.S. Protestantism’s super-protestant new program for a just and durable peace after World War II:

    Ultimately, “a world government of delegated powers.”
    Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism.
    Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty.
    International control of all armies & navies.
    “A universal system of money … so planned as to prevent inflation and deflation.”
    Worldwide freedom of immigration.
    Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade.
    “Autonomy for all subject and colo nial peoples” (with much better treatment for Negroes in the U.S.).
    “No punitive reparations, no humiliating decrees of war guilt, no arbitrary dismemberment of nations.”
    A “democratically controlled” international bank “to make development capital available in all parts of the world without the predatory and imperialistic aftermath so characteristic of large-scale private and governmental loans.”

    This program was adopted last week by 375 appointed representatives of 30-odd denominations called together at Ohio Wesleyan University by the Federal Council of Churches. Every local Protestant church in the country will now be urged to get behind the program. “As Christian citizens,” its sponsors affirmed, “we must seek to translate our beliefs into practical realities and to create a public opinion which will insure that the United States shall play its full and essential part in the creation of a moral way of international living.”

    Among the 375 delegates who drafted the program were 15 bishops of five denominations, seven seminary heads (including Yale, Chicago, Princeton, Colgate-Rochester), eight college and university presidents (including Princeton’s Harold W. Dodds), practically all the ranking officials of the Federal Council and a group of well-known laymen, including John R. Mott, Irving Fisher and Harvey S. Firestone Jr. “Intellectually,” said Methodist Bishop Ivan Lee Holt of Texas, “this is the most distinguished American church gathering I have seen in 30 years of conference-going.”

    The meeting showed its temper early by passing a set of 13 “requisite principles for peace” submitted by Chairman John Foster Dulles and his inter-church Commission to Study the Bases of a Just and Durable Peace. These principles, far from putting all the onus on Germany or Japan, bade the U.S. give thought to the short sighted selfishness of its own policies after World War I, declared that the U.S. would have to turn over a new leaf if the world is to enjoy lasting peace. Excerpts:

    For at least a generation we have held preponderant economic power in the world, and with it the capacity to influence decisively the shaping of world events. It should be a matter of shame and humiliation to us that actually the influences shaping the world have largely been irresponsible forces. Our own positive influence has been impaired because of concentration on self and on our short-range material gains. … If the future is to be other than a repetition of the past, the U.S. must accept the responsibility for constructive action commensurate with its power and opportunity.”
    “The natural wealth of the world is not evenly distributed. Accordingly the possession of such natural resources … is a trust to be discharged in the general interest. This calls for more than an offer to sell to all on equal terms. Such an offer may be a futile gesture unless those in need can, through the selling of their own goods and services, acquire the means of buying.”

    With these principles accepted, the conference split up into four groups to study, respectively, the social, economic and political problems of the post-war world and the problem of the church’s own position in that world. 1 Discussion waxed hot and heavy, with one notable silence: in a week when the Japs were taking Java, discussion of the war itself was practically taboo. Reason: The Federal Council felt that, since five of its other commissions are directly connected with the war effort, the conference’s concern should be with plans for peace. One war statement – “the Christian Church as such is not at war” – was proposed by Editor Charles Clayton Morrison, of the influential and isolationist-before-Pearl-Harbor Christian Century. This statement was actually inserted in a subcommittee report by a 64-58 vote after a sharp debate. In the plenary session, however, it was ruled out of order.

    Some of the conference’s economic opinions were almost as sensational as the extreme internationalism of its political program. It held that “a new order of economic life is both imminent and imperative” -a new order that is sure to come either “through voluntary cooperation within the framework of democracy or through explosive political revolution.” Without condemning the profit motive as such, it denounced various defects in the profit system for breeding war, demagogues and dictators, “mass unemployment, widespread dispossession from homes and farms, destitution, lack of opportunity for youth and of security for old age.” Instead, “the church must demand economic arrangements measured by human welfare . . . must appeal to the Christian motive of human service as paramount to personal gain or governmental coercion.”

    “Collectivism is coming, whether we like it or not,” the delegates were told by no less a churchman than England’s Dr. William Paton, co-secretary of the World Council of Churches, but the conference did not veer as far to the left as its definitely pinko British counterpart, the now famous Malvern Conference (TIME, Jan. 20, 1941). It did, however, back up Labor’s demand for an increasing share in industrial management. It echoed Labor’s shibboleth that the denial of collective bargaining “reduces labor to a commodity.” It urged taxation designed “to the end that our wealth may be more equitably distributed. “It urged experimentation with government and cooperative ownership.

    “Every individual,” the conference declared, “has the right to full-time educational opportunities … to economic security in retirement … to adequate health service [and an] obligation to work in some socially necessary service.”

    The conference statement on the political bases of a just and durable peace proclaimed that the first post-war duty of the church “will be the achievement of a just peace settlement with due regard to the welfare of all the nations, the vanquished, the overrun and the victors alike.” In contrast to the blockade of Germany after World War I, it called for immediate provision of food and other essentials after the war for every country needing them. “We must get back,” explained Methodist Bishop Francis J. McConnell, “to a stable material prosperity not only to strengthen men’s bodies but to strengthen their souls.”

    Politically, the conference’s most important assertion was that many duties now performed by local and national governments “can now be effectively carried out only by international authority.” Individual nations, it declared, must give up their armed forces “except for preservation of domestic order” and allow the world to be policed by an international army and navy. This League-of-Nations-with-teeth would also have “the power of final judgment in controversies between nations . . the regulation of international trade and population movements among nations.”

    The ultimate goal: “a duly constituted world government of delegated powers: an international legislative body, an international court with adequate jurisdiction, international-administrative bodies with necessary powers, and adequate international police forces and provision for enforcing its worldwide economic authority.”

    TIME - March 16, 1942
    Time – March 16, 1942

    , @Logan
    vWhy is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel?

    That money is irrelevant in today's world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.
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  64. Thirdtwin says:

    How come when the right does it, it’s “raising social tensions”, but when the left does it, it’s “raising social awareness”?

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    Because the left is the Reasonable Center, and everyone else is extremists, or something.
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  65. @RudyM
    Canada, you say?

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/01/singer-asked-whites-to-move-to-back-of-audience-people-of-color-to-move-to-front-then-it-got-ugly/

    Some people, like this Lido Pimienta chick, must get a real thrill out of humiliating groups of people they don’t like. Hatred has a home there (at her concerts).

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  66. Yak-15 says:
    @hhsiii
    Shouldn't the signs say "It's ok to think you're white"?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2017/11/03/im-the-descendant-of-a-founding-father-and-i-have-two-black-daughters-and-i-am-racist/
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  67. Wilkey says:
    @Adena Properties
    {Crickets}

    I just love the f%^*ing Crickets: They manage to say pretty much everything, now don't they.

    LOL. Actually I lied. You’d probably get to {Crickets} by the time you asked the administrator what the sign said, because they’d know by then exactly how effing ridiculous they looked.

    “What did the racist sign say?”
    “Well it said some pretty terrible things, actually. Things we don’t tolerate at a diverse university such as ours.”
    “What did it say?”
    “They used exclusivist language that denigrated the value of other races.”
    “What did it say?”
    “It was language that needs to be banned from universities because it’s meant to instill fear in those in our university.”
    “What did it say?”
    {Crickets}

    Acceptable, non-racist language: “Black is beautiful.”
    Acceptable, non-racist language: “Immigrants are better, harder working people than native-born Americans.”
    Unacceptable, racist language: “It’s OK to be white.”

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  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous

    “It’s OK to be Gay.” Are those posters signaling a message antithetical to diversity, equity and inclusion?
     
    Steve has written before about gays coming out of the closet and subsequently certain industries and endeavors, especially of the more artistic sort with a higher gay representation, becoming more gay as a result and more associated with homosexuality. So in effect coming out campaigns did in some respects promote less diversity, inclusion, etc. whatever you want to call it. Presumably the logic behind this campaign is similar.

    What “industries” exactly had a high percentage of homosexuals but were NOT “associated with homosexuality” previously? Did interior decorating become less macho? Is that what happened to all those working class jobs, straight men didn’t want to be associated with homosexual industries like auto making and refrigerators?

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  69. Bitfu says:

    I looked at some other stories by the ‘journalist’, Mark Carcasole–and this headline stands out:

    Ontario woman who escaped Las Vegas shooting finds healing after lost purse returned

    That’s just a funny headline…There’s just so much wrong with it. Now, people who aren’t even victims are being exalted. The Ontario woman–who was not injured–not only found her purse, but she found healing too! From an injury she never received. But, let’s not stop there—let’s write a newspaper account of a woman who was not injured, but lost her purse and had it returned!

    You think we’re done here? Hell no, were not done here. We still need to heap praise upon a woman who ‘found healing’ from an injury she did not suffer after her purse was returned. So let’s do this.

    Now, stop for a moment and ponder: What would have happened to this poor woman had her purse not been returned? Do you understand her pain she was experiencing from injuries she did not suffer while enduring the guilt of not having suffered from them? I don’t think you do.

    Sure, 59 innocents were gunned down. Of course it was a horrific night for everyone at the concert. But this woman lost her purse too. And don’t be a jerk–it wasn’t just her purse, it had her iPhone too. And a lot of other stuff. And she lost it. Just like that. Gone.

    But, like some physical manifestation of Amazing Grace, it was lost, and now it’s been found. Through it all, yes, she experienced the worst of humanity–that shooter guy. But she also experienced the best–the amazing hero who returned her purse (and her iPhone)!

    We are witness to an amazing triumph of the human spirit.

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    Kind of a stupid story, to be sure.

    However, I assume being present at such an event is pretty darn traumatic, whether you personally escape injury or not.
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  70. Svigor says:

    If leftists were capable of critical thinking or self-awareness, they wouldn’t be leftists. Diversity and open borders mania take the prize in the “how to create racial conflict” sweepstakes, and they’re both Holy Leftist Writ. Heal thyself, journalist.

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  71. Maj. Kong says:
    @Canadian Observer
    All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don't care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

    I doubt there will be any serious backlash outside of Quebec, that Sikh NDP leader is going over like a lead balloon there. Their worse economy has shifted the foreigners to the more prosperous GTA and Western Provinces.

    Preston Manning smothered Western Independence in the cradle, now it is demographically impossible short of Yugoslav level violence. Has anyone suggested a better name than “Western Canada” ?

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    There's always Harold Covington's idea, although for it to work, the US would have to be at the point of disintegration anyway.

    Another would be to swap Minnesota for the lower western provinces, which would probably be popular with the residents of both.
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  72. @Canadian Observer
    What does Jordan Peterson have to say about this? This is happening in his own back yard.

    Ironically, just last week the local SJWs attempted to smear Dr. Peterson by posting posters of him all over town labeling him a racist, hater, Nazi, etc.

    What does Jordan Peterson have to say about this? This is happening in his own back yard.

    A few moths back he was on Rogan’s podcast together with Brett Weinstein (the Evergreen State professor who was the catalyst for the fringe riots there) and his take on identity politics was that it was the Left playing with fire in that it has promoted the coalescing of a white identity. If everyone on the fringes is going to define themselves as against white, they’re by default creating a white identity even in that negative sense.

    He would probably say that the University’s reaction to the posters is further fuel for that fire.

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  73. Svigor says:

    Canada, you say?

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/01/singer-asked-whites-to-move-to-back-of-audience-people-of-color-to-move-to-front-then-it-got-ugly/

    Wild guess: “ugly” = some cracker man or men refused to sit at the back of the bus.

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    Believe it or not it was a woman who refused.
    , @Truth
    Uh Huh!

    A white female volunteer who was reportedly there to photograph the show — along with several other white audience members — reacted to the singer’s desire to get “brown girls to the front” with what festival officials called “aggressive” and “overt racism,” Billboard said.

     

    Tha Chikenz comin' home to roos on y'all Ofays. That's how I be doin' ya'll at work. Now you know how Rosa Parks was feelin!
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  74. Svigor says:

    Leftists benefit tremendously from having such a simple to express and reasonable sounding viewpoint. How can the Right match that view? “Threatened by equality” translates into laws which privilege minorities at the expense of Whites, laws which bequeath to minorities the societal inheritance bequeathed to Whites by THEIR ANCESTORS, laws which trample freedom of association in order to create equal outcomes for minorities which they can’t achieve on their own, etc, etc. All of that is portrayed as “equality.”

    Maybe “You’re stealing from my heritage, go back and develop the heritage your ancestors left to you” is something to play around with.</blockquote.

    "Now that is some Orwellian shit right there. 1984 isn’t an instruction manual, lefties” works.

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  75. Svigor says:

    “Equality is dead. Leftists killed it, and are wearing its skin like a suit” works, too.

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  76. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don’t care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities.
     
    Oh no, they care deeply about Aboriginals (as a cudgel to hit white people over the head with): http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/dalhousie-student-leader-faces-backlash-for-criticizing-white-fragility

    “At this point, f–k you all. I stand by the motion I put forward. I stand by Indigenous students. … Be proud of this country? For what, over 400 years of genocide? #unlearn150 #whitefragilitycankissmyass #yourwhitetearsarentsacredthislandis” – Masuma Khan
     

    Gee, Canada sure has been enriched by Muslim immigration

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  77. @larry lurker
    From the Ontario Human Rights Commission's "Racial discrimination, race and racism" "fact" sheet:

    Recognizing that race is a social construct, the Commission describes people as “racialized person” or “racialized group” instead of the more outdated and inaccurate terms “racial minority”. “visible minority”, “person of colour” or “non-White”.
     

    They are just moving the goalposts, as these types of scum always do. Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity, and are now a minority (or soon to be one) in even their own, few homelands, it won’t do to ramble about how mestizos; Chinamen; Hindoo; Negroes; Amerindians; and one-eyed, one-horned, flying, purple, people-eaters are a “minority.” Hence, they aren’t oppressed, entitled to cash and prizes, and otherwise unable to compete with Evil White People Responsible for (Literally!) Almost All Human Progress not because they are a helpless minority without agency, no; rather, because they are … er … racialised persons.

    But, hey, at least all the others are safe from the purple ones, who only eat people – never persons.

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    Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity
     
    This is obscenely false. Europe alone had 25% of the entire human population in 1900. Hardly a "tiny minority" especially given that whites ran almost the entire world then as well. Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous exaggerations. I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.
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  78. @Intelligent Dasein
    Speaking of Canada, what's going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we've been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

    I didn’t get the impression that there was any hostility between them. Of course, Grace was constantly interrupting Steele to continue some point, but he was doing that from the show’s inception and it seemed like part of the routine. My guess is that they weren’t getting enough in the way of financial support to justify the effort. They had alluded to that from time to time.

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  79. AndrewR says:
    @CCZ
    From the cited article, responding to a student complaint against her comments as violating the University's code of conduct standards, Ms. Khan said the complaint against her targets her "free speech and identity" and she also used the term "racialized" students (must be new SJW speak).

    “People might say it wasn’t an appropriate response. You have to understand I deal with Islamophobia on the daily,” she said. “I’m the one that gets called a terrorist when I walk down the street.”

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for the university to tell racialized students how they can talk about their lived experiences,” Khan added. “Suggesting I should take some training about how to talk about racism, that’s incredibly invalidating.”

    So, self-defined "people of color" are "racialized" (no doubt viciously by whites), any challenge to her comments targets her "free speech and identity," and requiring her to take some diversity type training is "invalidating." Wonder how that would go for someone posting "It's OK To Be White."

    “on the daily”

    Lmao at a moslem female in a canadian university talking like a black ghetto American yoof

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  80. @Lagertha
    she definitely sounds like a dingbat. She should be forced to explain what "racialized" means. And, she would have to state if her university despises those types of students. White students should refrain from applying and attending Universities that are hostile to them. It's quite easy. Parents should refrain from paying tuition to these types of bullshit Uni's. There are reference books that focus on conservative/traditional U's...and have been for a few years, now.

    You know, if the Lazy & Stupid Yet Ostensibly Conservative –not people like Steve’s readers, but the type who claim conservative outrage at all the globohomo crazy but then get right back to focusing on underpaying Mexican helots to mow lawns and remodel their kitchens, buying cheap Chinese shit from Mega-Lo-Mart, and subsidising the NFL and Hollywood with the tee-vee and picture-show between re-electing Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell every few years – if those types actually gave a damn about anything, and put just the slightest effort into actually living their professed values in this one area of life (education), then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.

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    then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.
     
    Umm.. the white people you're thinking of don't go to college or not to the arty farty places like Hillsdale. They don't what Hillsdale university is and why it's special. They know that state u is cheap and nearby and welding might be a good choice.

    Your complaint seems to be to be about the collapse of the white elites who should be funding such things. About the white elites who have the education, should know better, and are the traditional protectors of high culture for the rest of society. It's them who could cause that academic collapse and it's no where in sight yet.

    The lower middle class US conservatives are a blessing on the whole. They could be all out for free stuff from the government rather than firmly committed to just steady jobs, cheap stuff and living their lives. Communism and socialism take hold in places where that same class of people gets into their heads that government can us give them stuff and life will be perfect. Their resistance, in the face of cultural collapse, to date has kept us pretty whole.

    , @Lagertha
    I know thousands of highly educated people who voted for Trump...who are standing by, ready to help. It is deplorable that many have to be discrete now; but make no mistake, these people have millions of dollars, billions to get the ball rolling in the direction of Conservatism/Libertarianism for decades to come.

    My grandfather would be so proud if I can drive a dagger through the heart of socialism/Bolshevism these next few years in the USA - and, I try to fight that fight every day. Conservatives have been cowed to be silent and not be noticed for years; but heck, they have the power now....and that is what scares liberals. Liberals are an embarrassment with their sex scandals, money laudering issues, in the DNC and elsewhere; their cat fights, their general whinyness. Liberals are so effing whiny and insecure...always screeching about being a victim of something. Liberals will not attract any young guys. And, sooner or later, the young women will wake up and realize they don't wanna be cat-ladies who drive Subaru Foresters.
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  81. Tulip says:

    According to Wikipedia:

    The Jewish question was a wide-ranging debate in 19th and 20th century European society pertaining to the appropriate status and treatment of Jews in society.

    I do think American society is beginning to raise the “White Question”, the appropriate status and treatment of Whites in America. Obviously, “White Privilege” implies that they have too much status, and they get special treatment. Hence, it is not okay to be White. [After all, the problem AKA the Jewish Question was not the fact that Jews were good or bad, but they supposedly screwing over everyone else.]

    I think we need to name the actual political question hiding behind “whiteness studies” and “white privilege” and the rest of the “teaching tolerance” through intolerance and “inclusive” ways of excluding people.

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    I think the Kulak Question is a better comparison.
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  82. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Still waiting for the appearance of the "It be ok to be black" signs.

    You axin’ fuh trubble.

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  83. @TangoMan
    Bug Report.

    A response to my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 2:58 am GMT

    And my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 3:38 am GMT

    What kind of voodoo has Ron programmed into the commenting software that such time paradoxes can arise?

    It’s – the Libyans!

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  84. Alvin says:

    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve. Deranged Uzbeki – most likely the product of generations of cousin marriages and hence super low IQ – killing far fewer people with truck results in immediate post calling for comments from Steve.

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    oIf the Uzbek had done his thing in Uzbekistan, Sailer wouldn't have bothered with a blog post.

    The point of the blog was that the Uzbek did it in the USA and that there is no rational reason the USA needs to import problems from Uzbekistan.

    Simples.

    , @Coloring person
    It's a white nationalist site. You shouldn't expect anything different.
    , @anon
    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve.

    "Bible study teacher"? You mean that militant atheist from yesterday? Or was there another shooting rampage at a church I missed?
    , @AM

    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve.
     
    To double down and agree with anon, it was clear by this afternoon's reporting that he was militant atheist. He might have done a stint at the best of his relatives, but apparently he was big on pushing atheism on his Facebook account.

    Does that reduce how "interesting" the story is now?

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  85. @Intelligent Dasein
    Speaking of Canada, what's going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we've been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

    Great handle. It reminds me of an anecdote I heard but can’t remember the source: A student reading Heidegger for the first time wonders why he should even bother with M.H. when all he does is cite this other fellow. Probably best just to go straight to the works of Dasein.

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  86. Building on a previous comment, why not combine the phrase with another one:

    It’s okay to be white.
    It’s okay to be gay.

    Then watch the heads explode as the SJWs try to parse the offensiveness of the posters.

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  87. Divisive rhetoric = fake news

    Easily turned right back on them.

    Anything they say from here on out, we say stop being so divisive.

    Hopefully Trump picks up on this.

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  88. @Canadian Observer
    All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don't care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

    Right on. The typical Canadian newcomer has zero knowledge of Canada outside of the major city he lives in (typically Toronto or Vancouver) and less interest in finding out. We did this to ourselves, starting in the Pearson era. Hurray for Blank Slate-ism!

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  89. Disney is going to re-release Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, however the Princess will be renamed Brown Rice and each dwarf, now called “little people”, will each represent one stripe on the Rainbow Flag, as in L,B,G,T,Q, etc. Samuel L. Jackson will play the smart dwarf, Doc. Brown Rice will be violated, on the glass shards of her crystal coffin, by the only white character in the movie; Haven Monahan, who will digitally penetrate the unconscious princess while recording it on his smart phone. Princess Brown Rice will be brought back to life by a full mouth kiss from a cross dressing character closely resembemling Ellen De Generes. Schools will make viewing the movie mandatory, followed by discussions on why it’s not okay to be white.

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  90. RudyM says:
    @El Dato

    “To Lido Pimienta: we are sorry that one of our volunteers interrupted your art, your show, and your audience by being aggressive and racist,” the statement also said. “We have so much respect for the art and music you create and the space you make for women, people of color, transgender, and nonbinary people. The way you interact with the world acts and provides a thoughtful example. You are a role model to us and many people in our community. We see it. We feel it. We hope you will work with us again.”
     
    Now bend down for a good whipping.


    What did Pimienta have to say afterward?

    “I never asked white folks to leave my show, I would never do that,” Pimienta noted in an email Q&A with Billboard. “I never ask men to leave my show, I ask them to share the space in a more significant manner as an act of love and solidarity with people who, outside of the music show bubble, have to constantly justify their existence to the world.”
     
    TOP. ONION.

    Pimienta added that “90 percent of people who attend my shows and get the ‘Lido Pimienta reconfigures the room’ experience LOVE IT. The outpouring of [comments like] ‘thank you for allowing me to see how brown folks at [these] shows are clearly a minority’ outgrow the comments of hate.

    Maybe because it’s Canada? Maybe if you didn’t want to live somewhere where brown people are a minority, you could have stayed in Colombia?

    Also, I love the idea that somehow brown and black women are shrinking violets who remain in the background. That was not my experience while living in Philadelphia.

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  91. RudyM says:

    Sorry, got timed out while editing.

    More grist for the mill from Pimienta, here:

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/23046/singer-asks-white-audience-members-go-back-hank-berrien

    WOMXN TO THE FRONT!

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  92. Oh please aren’t we exhausted yet? Not even God/Jesus could have his own people, especially if they are white, straight and non Jewish. Jesus can’t even decide who goes to heaven without it being called elitist. But he’s just a prophet for profit now anyway. The Hebrews were elitist too.

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    Jesus can’t even decide who goes to heaven without it being called elitist. But he’s just a prophet for profit now anyway.
     
    He's much more than prophet, because if He was just prophet, He stunk at it.

    That said, am unfortunately in agreement that the vast majority of official "Christian" thought is just Hippie Jesus for profit and comfort. Give Him some cash (conveniently collected by a human) and a hug, and live your life anyway you choose.
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  93. Thea says:
    @newrouter
    In sad in a way it is fun to provoke the religiously committed. Next: >It is OK to be an Infidel. <?

    Yes I like phrasing it as a question as it opens a dialog and they have to admit they don’t want dialog.

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  94. MarcB. says:

    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it’s multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn’t prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.

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    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it’s multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn’t prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.
     
    It's nick name was "Toronto the Good". Montreal, thanks to it's French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such. St. Catherine street was cleaning itself up when I was kid and my parents took me there for smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet.

    The thing is, there really was nothing wrong with being boring if you're living a half decent life. (At least I hope so, because I consider myself that way.) I'm afraid vice is always a bit more interesting than virtue, at least initially.

    , @Jack D
    You haven't seen bland unless you knew pre-multicultural Toronto. Think of the most boring mid-Western American city ( Indianapolis?) and add the Canadian sense of reserved politeness and British cooking skills and you had yourself one hell of a boring place. It was safe, low crime, etc. but unarguably dull.
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  95. J1234 says:

    The “it’s okay to be white” flyers are a stroke of genius. They are non-threatening and largely inert statements that (by the hysterical responses they elicit) expose the leftist orthodoxy that reigns supreme on college campuses. You’ll notice that they’re only being sent to universities and colleges at this point. Nobody’s putting them in grocery stores or bars or Jiffy Lubes. That’s because there’s supposed to be a tolerance for unpopular non-threatening speech on college campuses, but there mostly isn’t. Not in this context.

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  96. anon says: • Disclaimer

    “I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”

    Odd. I don’t recall Canada ever having slavery, meaning that all the non-Native people of other races CHOSE to go there, where they would be persecuted.

    I highly recommend a government program to send all Canadian people of color back to their ancestral homelands, and away from their oppressors.

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  97. Altai says:
    @JerryC
    "Racialized people" - nice Freudian slip.

    It’s actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can’t pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population. (Ie, a Japanese person is ‘racialized’ outside Japan, but not in Japan) So it could exclude mixed race people who look or are European enough not to have any issue identifying with the core over other groups or at all. It can also include any other group which for whatever reason (Size, time, context) continues a distinct identity despite them not being a ‘visible minority’ and it theoretically being possible to assimilate. An example could be Jews or to a much lesser degree in modern times Greeks and Italians in Australia, Ukrainians in Canada.

    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic ‘other’ to the dominant population and vice versa.

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    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic ‘other’ to the dominant population and vice versa.
     
    The "dominant population" at which level of analysis?

    Was I "racialized" in my 70% black home city?

    No, I was white, and the oppressor, even though being white there was a nightmare of being oppressed, attacked, marginalized, you name it.

    If I moved to Camden today would I be "racialized"?

    No, I'd be even more hated and more at risk of attack today than in the 1980s. This time the attacks would happen with a soundtrack of the global cheerleading section that is the MSM.

    "Racialized" means one thing and one thing only: a member of whatever identity grouping that those in power decide to inject this week or year with a fortifying dollop of attention, money, and occasionally minor but PR-yielding power.

    , @Alec Leamas

    It’s actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can’t pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population.
     
    It doesn't make any sense where the society is experiencing "Flight from White" and where "Diversity is our Greatest Strength™."

    In most of the West including the U.S. and Canada, it''s more honored to have some or all non-white ancestry (even where one can "pass" as white), and there are material benefits attendant to having non-white ancestry.

    What else in Heaven or on Earth describes the life and times of Elizabeth Warren?
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  98. @Logan
    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    Part of the story involved low-key conflict between a black man and a white man. Ending of course with the white man coming to the realization that he shouldn't harbor prejudice in his heart against another child of God. (With which I agree, BTW.)

    And I thought, how much more interesting if the story had played out with the same moral, but with the black man coming to that conclusion instead. The story simply assumed that the black man could not have any racist inclinations in his own heart.

    Or it could even have had both men ultimately recognizing their sin in this regard, which would of course be a more Christian message. All have sinned, not just white men.

    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.

    A Christian movie? Or a churchian movie.

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    It self-identified as Christian.
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  99. nuk says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    Still waiting for the appearance of the "It be ok to be black" signs.

    Still waiting for the appearance of the “It be ok to be black” signs.

    It should be “It’s okay to be black again” just to add a little flavor flav.

    Always keep ‘em guessing!

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  100. J.Ross says: • Website

    Further success for the ever-expanding IOTBW campaign! Remember that anyone who suggests that the message be changed or augmented, especially to anything provocative, is a child-trafficking, gun-walking fed!
    I don’t have an image or the exact phrasing, but when I read “signs intended to create racial tension,” I recalled Canadian anons complaining at 4chan for years about multiple poster campaigns that were deliberately provocative and inarguably intended to create racial tensions. Most of them had a nonwhite’s face and presupposed as haughtily as possible that Toronto has always had a Muslim community, or they would be inviting the reader to hate a deplorable white male who was publicly racist. These posters came from the Canadian and Toronto governments and were paid for by the taxpayers they gleefully insulted. Defacing or removing these posters was I believe considered a “hate crime.”

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  101. CJ says:
    @Svigor

    Canada, you say?

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/01/singer-asked-whites-to-move-to-back-of-audience-people-of-color-to-move-to-front-then-it-got-ugly/

     

    Wild guess: "ugly" = some cracker man or men refused to sit at the back of the bus.

    Believe it or not it was a woman who refused.

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  102. CCZ says:

    “It’s Okay To Be White” Africa version:

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  103. Forbes says:
    @Trelane
    Messages like this [it's okay to be white] are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,”

    Then the university better reconsider its commitment. Antithetical means opposite. So there commitment means it’s NOT okay to be white.

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  104. Lurker says:

    immediately notified Campus Police, who have also notified Toronto Police

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    Perhaps the most idiotic line in the movie. Not in the book, BTW.

    What you do "against such reckless hate" is to resist and if necessary destroy those who practice it?

    Duhh!
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  105. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous IV
    Don't forget one of the key tenets of the Progressive Catechism:
    For white people, losing privilege on the way to equality feels like oppression.

    I’m happy to lose the white privilege of giving way to others for the sake of diversity, affirmative action, and inclusion. I prefer freedom of association, and would rather not practice tokenism. If that’s oppression–bring it on.

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  106. @Canadian Observer
    All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don't care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

    I agree with you completely but would add one additional point;

    Most white Canadians also don’t know or care about the historical facts you list. Sad but true.

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  107. Forbes says:
    @TangoMan
    Bug Report.

    A response to my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 2:58 am GMT

    And my comment is timestamped at:

    November 6, 2017 at 3:38 am GMT

    What kind of voodoo has Ron programmed into the commenting software that such time paradoxes can arise?

    I didn’t check time stamps, but yesterday (Sunday) I read a lot of replies that were posted ahead of the comment they were replying to. I assumed something in the ordering went awry during the “approval” process. Slightly humorous.

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  108. Forbes says:
    @PiltdownMan

    “I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”
     
    Persecuted? In 2017?

    The indoctrination is strong in these campuses.

    Persecuted? Well the propaganda and The Narrative say they’re persecuted, so it must be so…

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  109. Lurker says:

    Marcella Bollocks.

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  110. @Anon
    OT: Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond. That's insane. The attacker should have been charged with a felony. It's time to start impeaching liberal justices who keep trying to protect liberal criminals.

    The Texas church shooter was caught posing with the Antifa flag and posted that he was interested in liberal causes before his Facebook got scrubbed. He may have been a recent convert to Islam. He was court-martialed and kicked out of the Air Force for attacking his wife and child. It was illegal for him to have owned any type of gun since he had committed a felony when his attacked his family.

    It appears that Antifa's method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because they way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    It appears that Antifa’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because they [sic] way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    In all fairness, more than one can play that game:

    It appears that ISIS’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    It appears that Alt-Right’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    It appears that Deep State’s method is to encourage lone wolf attacks, because that way they get all the assaults and killings they want without being directly tied to them. Dirtbags.

    Granted, in the case of ISIS or Al Qaeda, they are happy to take credit for lone wolf attacks, whether they may have had anything to do with them or not. And since all of the entities above are decentralized and hardly monolithic, anyone can execute a lone wolf attack and anyone can take credit (especially when the lone wolf ends up dead, one way or another). Same goes for the “Anonymous” hackers, who could be anyone. It’s all a Hall of Mirrors.

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  111. @Tulip
    According to Wikipedia:

    The Jewish question was a wide-ranging debate in 19th and 20th century European society pertaining to the appropriate status and treatment of Jews in society.


    I do think American society is beginning to raise the "White Question", the appropriate status and treatment of Whites in America. Obviously, "White Privilege" implies that they have too much status, and they get special treatment. Hence, it is not okay to be White. [After all, the problem AKA the Jewish Question was not the fact that Jews were good or bad, but they supposedly screwing over everyone else.]

    I think we need to name the actual political question hiding behind "whiteness studies" and "white privilege" and the rest of the "teaching tolerance" through intolerance and "inclusive" ways of excluding people.

    I think the Kulak Question is a better comparison.

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  112. At this point it is unclear whether Richard Spencer has any function other than to rally nonwhites and motivate Democrats to the polls.

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    The tiki torch incident in Cville convinced me that Spencer is controlled opposition. The optics of that event were tailor-made for breathless exploitation by the MSM to promote the KKKrazy glue of rampant "White Nationalism."

    At best (and this is being charitable) Spencer is a hopeless idiot. At worst (likely) he's an agent of the left.
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  113. eah says:
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    PD Mangan is a little slice of awesome and I highly recommend anyone, but especially those interested in diet and fitness to check him out. When I was on Twitter, he was nothing but a gentleman. Masculinity at it's finest.
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  114. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    Canada, you say?

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/01/singer-asked-whites-to-move-to-back-of-audience-people-of-color-to-move-to-front-then-it-got-ugly/

     

    Wild guess: "ugly" = some cracker man or men refused to sit at the back of the bus.

    Uh Huh!

    A white female volunteer who was reportedly there to photograph the show — along with several other white audience members — reacted to the singer’s desire to get “brown girls to the front” with what festival officials called “aggressive” and “overt racism,” Billboard said.

    Tha Chikenz comin’ home to roos on y’all Ofays. That’s how I be doin’ ya’ll at work. Now you know how Rosa Parks was feelin!

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    Ah Old Sport™, Old Chap™, Old Sod™….any Ofay MoFo silly enough to go to a Pimienta concert unironically has bigger problems than the seating arrangements.


    Bye now Troof!
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  115. @Alvin
    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church...and nothing from Steve. Deranged Uzbeki - most likely the product of generations of cousin marriages and hence super low IQ - killing far fewer people with truck results in immediate post calling for comments from Steve.

    oIf the Uzbek had done his thing in Uzbekistan, Sailer wouldn’t have bothered with a blog post.

    The point of the blog was that the Uzbek did it in the USA and that there is no rational reason the USA needs to import problems from Uzbekistan.

    Simples.

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    What's even simpler to understand is that when guys like the nutjobs in Sutherland Springs and Las Vegas kill many people, it makes arguments to restrict Muslim immigration look less rational and more simply motivated by bigotry. I mean yeah, per capita, Muslims definitely seem to be the reigning champions of mass murder, but most people have a tough time with proportions, and, in any case, this stuff makes it harder to refute the inevitable "but wypipo do bad stuff too" argument against restricting Muslim immigration.

    And I realize Sailer is geekishly snobby and seems to pride himself on not posting about things that non-Sailer people are actually noticing and talking about, but something like what happened yesterday deserves at least a short post in a timely manner.

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  116. Rfag says:

    Actually, and for something that rolls off the tongue more easily, “It’s all right to be white.”

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  117. AM says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by "respectable" denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the "managerial elite" as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.

    The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by “respectable” denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century.

    Yep. The unholy alliance of supposed virtue with globalist banking and capitalism. It’s quite the force.

    Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the “managerial elite” as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    The last one, along with being corrupted by dregs of the managerial elite that like to dress up (or sometimes not) and use what acting talents they have in secure job. (<—Not really kidding on this last one. There is a huge overlap between "Do I want to be an actor?" or "Do I want to be priest/pastor" modernly.)

    I suspect 2nd or 3rd string in the clergy has been chronic problem through time. It's exploded in the modern era.

    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands.

    It’s war on all fronts.
    Front one: Save yourself, if possible
    Front two: Save your family, if possible
    Front three: Outside forces actively hostile to Christianity, pushes for homosexuality, culture wars/degradation and the like
    Front four: Inside forces rotting Christianity from within and claiming Christian values are globalist values. Unfortunately, it’s clear that most with the official megaphones inside all of Western Christianity are happy to be parasitic globalists, with only a tentative connection to Christian teaching, despite years of schooling in some cases. It’s not entirely clear that they even believe in God or the Divinity of Christ in many cases.

    I haunt one or two Catholic boards. The occasional convert asks how do I join, wanting in (God bless them) and I find myself giving advise like: “Be as honest and positive as you can during RCIA (adult initiation rites) but double check everything they tell you. Keep your eye on the prize, the sacraments, they can’t “undo it” once you have it. And then keep checking what people tell you.”

    It’s nuts. It’s living the Onion.

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  118. AM says:
    @Autochthon
    You know, if the Lazy & Stupid Yet Ostensibly Conservative –not people like Steve's readers, but the type who claim conservative outrage at all the globohomo crazy but then get right back to focusing on underpaying Mexican helots to mow lawns and remodel their kitchens, buying cheap Chinese shit from Mega-Lo-Mart, and subsidising the NFL and Hollywood with the tee-vee and picture-show between re-electing Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell every few years – if those types actually gave a damn about anything, and put just the slightest effort into actually living their professed values in this one area of life (education), then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.

    then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.

    Umm.. the white people you’re thinking of don’t go to college or not to the arty farty places like Hillsdale. They don’t what Hillsdale university is and why it’s special. They know that state u is cheap and nearby and welding might be a good choice.

    Your complaint seems to be to be about the collapse of the white elites who should be funding such things. About the white elites who have the education, should know better, and are the traditional protectors of high culture for the rest of society. It’s them who could cause that academic collapse and it’s no where in sight yet.

    The lower middle class US conservatives are a blessing on the whole. They could be all out for free stuff from the government rather than firmly committed to just steady jobs, cheap stuff and living their lives. Communism and socialism take hold in places where that same class of people gets into their heads that government can us give them stuff and life will be perfect. Their resistance, in the face of cultural collapse, to date has kept us pretty whole.

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    You are so correct, AM. I feel very protective of lower middle class Americans because I spent so much time with them, oddly enough, through my sons' sports in the last 12 years. My sons pursued sport in a regional and national level, so, we drove/flew a lot...and got to know families all over. I saw "the carnage" that Trump spoke about in his Inaugural Address.
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  119. AM says:
    @MarcB.
    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it's multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn't prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.

    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it’s multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn’t prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.

    It’s nick name was “Toronto the Good”. Montreal, thanks to it’s French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such. St. Catherine street was cleaning itself up when I was kid and my parents took me there for smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet.

    The thing is, there really was nothing wrong with being boring if you’re living a half decent life. (At least I hope so, because I consider myself that way.) I’m afraid vice is always a bit more interesting than virtue, at least initially.

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    Montreal, thanks to it’s French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such.
     
    My first reaction was, well, yeah, Montreal also was a much more Jewish city, wasn't it? (Based on my own experience there.)

    Then I Ducked it and found this:

    http://cija.ca/resource/canadian-jewry/basic-demographics-of-the-canadian-jewish-community/

    Total Jewish population 391, 665
    16.9% of Canadian Jews are 65 or older
    25% of Quebec Jews have French as their mother tongue, and 62% are bilingual.*
    Median income for Canadian Jews (age 15+) is $30,670
    6.7% of Canadian Jews live in female-headed single-parent families
    14.6% of Canadian Jews live below the poverty line. This percentage rises to 15.7% for Canadian Jews aged 75 and older, and to 20% among Quebec Jews.

    Jewish Communities by City

    Toronto 188,710
    Montreal 90,780
    Vancouver 26,255
     
    After that the numbers fall way off fast.

    This appears to suggest that a full half of Canada's Jews live in super duper multi culti PC Toronto. There, the Two Percent constitutes about 7 percent.

    Montreal--26% nonwhite--is about 5.5 percent Two Percent.

    Vancouver, B.C., about 4.12 percent Two Percent.
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  120. polskijoe says:

    I imagine that in Canada,
    its very political correct.

    Jews cant be criticized (elites or citizens), Anglo-French elites are also significant.

    If you speak out against abortions or gay marriage or anything like that
    you are labeled hating, bigot, nazi. (probably in big cities).

    Elites pretend to care for Aboriginals, while doing next to nothing.
    Whites are often ignored, unless you fully support liberal or neocon views.

    While the immigration keeps coming (mostly non-whites).
    I read they raised the limit to some larger number.

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  121. AM says:
    @jane claire
    Oh please aren't we exhausted yet? Not even God/Jesus could have his own people, especially if they are white, straight and non Jewish. Jesus can't even decide who goes to heaven without it being called elitist. But he's just a prophet for profit now anyway. The Hebrews were elitist too.

    Jesus can’t even decide who goes to heaven without it being called elitist. But he’s just a prophet for profit now anyway.

    He’s much more than prophet, because if He was just prophet, He stunk at it.

    That said, am unfortunately in agreement that the vast majority of official “Christian” thought is just Hippie Jesus for profit and comfort. Give Him some cash (conveniently collected by a human) and a hug, and live your life anyway you choose.

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    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven. Moses had his own people too is the point and today not excepting anyone who walks through the door would label someone an elitist. It's more to do with immigration, the Amish, the sign on the statue of liberty, the beatitudes and our ever morphing and changing history. Every time I read it it's different.
    No one denies Buddha is Asian and had his own people. The Buddhists are much like Catholics in structure in the past but they threw out God along time ago.
    We have to accept people who hate Jesus and don't see him in the same light as we do. Other than that I don't know what your talking about.
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  122. anon says: • Disclaimer
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    Speaking of Canada, what's going on with the 2 Kevins? The show has folded up and we've been left with nothing but some cryptic notices from Steel while Grace has disappeared off the radar. I felt there was some tension in recent episodes, and the podcasts have been coming at longer and longer intervals. It appears there was some kind of dramatic falling out between them.

    Kevin Michael Grace was having some kind of undisclosed health problems for awhile now. They only came back for the Zoe Quinn episode.

    I don’t know if you saw the particular cryptic notice from Kevin Steel where he said he hadn’t heard from Grace for a couple of weeks, and messages and e-mails sent to Grace weren’t replied to. The day after that was the day Steel announced that there would be no more shows.

    So I’m guessing it has something to do with that.

    It really is too bad. The show was always good, but it seemed to be improving all the time.

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    The New York Times needs to frontlash for the emo atheists or things could get ugly no pun intended
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  123. Signs intended to create racial tension

    Even the headline is so slanted. All racial culture war efforts, such as BLM or the pro athlete movement, aims to create racial tensions and advance controversial viewpoints and grievances. Yet, they exclusive choose to frame it in such negative language, when white tribe people do it.

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  124. eah says:
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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN-c3hpU8AYu4yN.jpg
    , @Truth
    The dude in the picture should have represented "Rich Republican business owners."
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  125. eah says:
    @eah

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    Gots to gets me some o dat foreign strange!
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/PaleHominid/status/927623360208568320
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  126. guest says:
    @PiltdownMan

    “I feel like that’s such a weird view to have considering how persecuted people of other races are.”
     
    Persecuted? In 2017?

    The indoctrination is strong in these campuses.

    The lying is strong.

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  127. @Alvin
    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church...and nothing from Steve. Deranged Uzbeki - most likely the product of generations of cousin marriages and hence super low IQ - killing far fewer people with truck results in immediate post calling for comments from Steve.

    It’s a white nationalist site. You shouldn’t expect anything different.

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    a) no, it's not (although Ron Unz is more tolerant of white nationalism than 99.9% of Jews are)

    b) there is no evidence I am aware of that Sailer is a WN; he seems to have a preference for people ethnically similar to himself, but that's not the same as white nationalism

    c) even from a strictly WN perspective, any mass shooting is relevant discussion material; incidents of mass shootings by "whites" are used (understandably) to refute many WN arguments
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  128. Tex says:

    “I don’t think it’s ever not been okay to be white,” laughed U of T student Daniel Rebelo while walking to class.

    It’s just not OK to be so uppity about being white. Who wants a smart-mouth cracker around?

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  129. fish says:
    @Truth
    Uh Huh!

    A white female volunteer who was reportedly there to photograph the show — along with several other white audience members — reacted to the singer’s desire to get “brown girls to the front” with what festival officials called “aggressive” and “overt racism,” Billboard said.

     

    Tha Chikenz comin' home to roos on y'all Ofays. That's how I be doin' ya'll at work. Now you know how Rosa Parks was feelin!

    Ah Old Sport™, Old Chap™, Old Sod™….any Ofay MoFo silly enough to go to a Pimienta concert unironically has bigger problems than the seating arrangements.

    Bye now Troof!

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  130. fish says:
    @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN-c3hpU8AYu4yN.jpg

    Gots to gets me some o dat foreign strange!

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  131. Jack D says:
    @MarcB.
    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it's multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn't prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.

    You haven’t seen bland unless you knew pre-multicultural Toronto. Think of the most boring mid-Western American city ( Indianapolis?) and add the Canadian sense of reserved politeness and British cooking skills and you had yourself one hell of a boring place. It was safe, low crime, etc. but unarguably dull.

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  132. fish says:

    Now you’ve done it Steve….you’ve triggered San Francisco!

    ‘It’s OK to be white’ sticker spotted in Polk Gulch

    http://www.sfgate.com/local/article/It-s-OK-to-be-white-sticker-spotted-in-12336244.php

    Article offered in the same breathless tone of their description of Saleforces™ Marc Benioff reportedly seeing a Bobcat in his yard!

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  133. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Alvin
    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church...and nothing from Steve. Deranged Uzbeki - most likely the product of generations of cousin marriages and hence super low IQ - killing far fewer people with truck results in immediate post calling for comments from Steve.

    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve.

    “Bible study teacher”? You mean that militant atheist from yesterday? Or was there another shooting rampage at a church I missed?

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  134. @AM

    Jesus can’t even decide who goes to heaven without it being called elitist. But he’s just a prophet for profit now anyway.
     
    He's much more than prophet, because if He was just prophet, He stunk at it.

    That said, am unfortunately in agreement that the vast majority of official "Christian" thought is just Hippie Jesus for profit and comfort. Give Him some cash (conveniently collected by a human) and a hug, and live your life anyway you choose.

    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven. Moses had his own people too is the point and today not excepting anyone who walks through the door would label someone an elitist. It’s more to do with immigration, the Amish, the sign on the statue of liberty, the beatitudes and our ever morphing and changing history. Every time I read it it’s different.
    No one denies Buddha is Asian and had his own people. The Buddhists are much like Catholics in structure in the past but they threw out God along time ago.
    We have to accept people who hate Jesus and don’t see him in the same light as we do. Other than that I don’t know what your talking about.

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    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven
     
    It sounds vaguely like you were raised in a Reform or Calvinist tradition. I'm not that. :)

    It's clear from the Gospels that the apostles were to go out to all nations.That's where the globalists screw with everyone. Christianity is for all nations, but it does not follow that we import all nations or impose a form of the same Christianity on everyone or have zero rules about who belongs to a community. It takes the universalism of Christianity and gives a monstrous form that has little to do with the original in any Protestant, Orthodox, or Catholic tradition.
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  135. OT but iSteve worthy:

    The Sailer prescription for the GOP Blues worked (even if the GOPe didn’t want it to work*).

    * Referring specifically to Nicole Wallace who, during the General Election Campaign asked rhetorically on Morning Joe: “Republicans can’t win with just whites anymore . . . and even if you could, would you even want to win that way?”

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  136. Olorin says:
    @Altai
    It's actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can't pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population. (Ie, a Japanese person is 'racialized' outside Japan, but not in Japan) So it could exclude mixed race people who look or are European enough not to have any issue identifying with the core over other groups or at all. It can also include any other group which for whatever reason (Size, time, context) continues a distinct identity despite them not being a 'visible minority' and it theoretically being possible to assimilate. An example could be Jews or to a much lesser degree in modern times Greeks and Italians in Australia, Ukrainians in Canada.

    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic 'other' to the dominant population and vice versa.

    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic ‘other’ to the dominant population and vice versa.

    The “dominant population” at which level of analysis?

    Was I “racialized” in my 70% black home city?

    No, I was white, and the oppressor, even though being white there was a nightmare of being oppressed, attacked, marginalized, you name it.

    If I moved to Camden today would I be “racialized”?

    No, I’d be even more hated and more at risk of attack today than in the 1980s. This time the attacks would happen with a soundtrack of the global cheerleading section that is the MSM.

    “Racialized” means one thing and one thing only: a member of whatever identity grouping that those in power decide to inject this week or year with a fortifying dollop of attention, money, and occasionally minor but PR-yielding power.

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  137. the posters should have posted:

    “it’s ok to be white as long as you’re ashamed of being white.”

    police: dispatch!

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  138. Olorin says:
    @AM

    Self-flagellating whites have been declaring for decades that the best thing about the Toronto is it’s multiculturalism. The sad part of it is that all of this vibrancy still hasn’t prevented it from being the blandest metropolitan area in North America.
     
    It's nick name was "Toronto the Good". Montreal, thanks to it's French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such. St. Catherine street was cleaning itself up when I was kid and my parents took me there for smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet.

    The thing is, there really was nothing wrong with being boring if you're living a half decent life. (At least I hope so, because I consider myself that way.) I'm afraid vice is always a bit more interesting than virtue, at least initially.

    Montreal, thanks to it’s French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such.

    My first reaction was, well, yeah, Montreal also was a much more Jewish city, wasn’t it? (Based on my own experience there.)

    Then I Ducked it and found this:

    http://cija.ca/resource/canadian-jewry/basic-demographics-of-the-canadian-jewish-community/

    Total Jewish population 391, 665
    16.9% of Canadian Jews are 65 or older
    25% of Quebec Jews have French as their mother tongue, and 62% are bilingual.*
    Median income for Canadian Jews (age 15+) is $30,670
    6.7% of Canadian Jews live in female-headed single-parent families
    14.6% of Canadian Jews live below the poverty line. This percentage rises to 15.7% for Canadian Jews aged 75 and older, and to 20% among Quebec Jews.

    Jewish Communities by City

    Toronto 188,710
    Montreal 90,780
    Vancouver 26,255

    After that the numbers fall way off fast.

    This appears to suggest that a full half of Canada’s Jews live in super duper multi culti PC Toronto. There, the Two Percent constitutes about 7 percent.

    Montreal–26% nonwhite–is about 5.5 percent Two Percent.

    Vancouver, B.C., about 4.12 percent Two Percent.

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    Montreal used to be the center of the Canadian Jewish community, but when the Quebecois took over from the English speakers and went nuts with all the French only stuff, a lot of the Jews too off. A lot of those left are the ultra-Orthodox who don't care much about politics. The French speaking community of Quebec, driven by the church, was historically quite anti-Semitic.


    http://www.cmaj.ca/content/169/12/1329.full
    , @AM
    Thanks for this info, it's appreciated.

    I suspect Jack D's other information, that it used to be more Jewish before the separatist movements, is correct. My parents took us to a deli that had smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet on St. Catherine street growing up. There used to be more than one and my Mom went to one that was quite huge when she was student nurse there.

    Also, knowing the profile of my anglophone WASP grandparents, I suspect Montreal in the late 19th century and early 20th century was an upcoming financial city. Lots of social climbing to do there and money to made. Toronto was...Toronto a central government city conveniently not Montreal.

    My WASP relatives, who all started in Montreal, drifted out as the separatist movement took hold. It wouldn't shock me that the Jewish community drifted away as well, with Toronto being the obvious new choice.
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  139. guest says:
    @Thirdtwin
    How come when the right does it, it's "raising social tensions", but when the left does it, it's "raising social awareness"?

    Because the left is the Reasonable Center, and everyone else is extremists, or something.

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  140. I’ll set forth Addenda to the above.

    1) Appealing to the White Working Class seems to be a virtuous cycle/inside the opponent’s OODA Loop thing, where relatively mild appeals to whites get met with hyperbolic condemnations from the people who are known to despise the White Working Class thereby magnifying the mild appeal and creating a zero sum conflict. As we can see with the “It’s OK to be White” troll, the reaction to it is the real product or goal – the adversary immediately and reflexively overreacts and shows its anti-white hand, planting the perception in the mind of the persuadables that the other side thinks that it’s not “OK” to be white. This is why #MAGA worked particularly in the rust belt – lots of whites who have been neglected through decades of federal economic and social policy of both parties while being vilified in news and entertainment media see what is to them a somewhat neutral call to return the United States to its former glory, which is greeted by the self-regarded elite and ruling class as beyond the pale.

    2) Apropos of Wallace’s statement paraphrased above, the Ruling Class had presented an environment and narrow Overton scope in which the GOP would require more minority votes to tread water while using its media arm to turn even milquetoasts like Willard Romney into vile racists while at the same time exciting blacks and Hispanics with various calumnies against the Candidate and reinforcing their racial solidarity (often by embargoing news of inter-minority conflicts). The GOP would successively moderate its position leftward on core issues to chase blacks and Hispanics whom the Ruling class could always keep far out of reach thus shifting the whole political apparatus ever left. Trumpist electoral politics is a simple refusal to play this game on these terms. If this is some sort of crime, it’s a crime of their doing.

    3) As has been said before and bears repeating, it’s apparent that both parties’ voting base is more conservative in all regards than the elected members of both parties. Democratic voters are more conservative than elected Democrats, and Republican voters are more conservative than elected Republicans. This is inherently unstable, and set the stage for an event like Trump.

    4) Voter participation by non-college educated whites at 45% of the electorate and with appeals to blue collar conservative Democrats does much to explain why the pre-election polls were so awfully wrong, and why former sampling models will not accurately predict outcomes where Trumpism or Trump proxies are on the ballot and there is a significant white working class as part of the electorate.

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  141. Olorin says:

    And speaking of “racialization” and its cult, the folks over at Esquire are commemorating the one-year anniversary of the 2016 presidential election with an orgy of self-cutting/reliving the pain.

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13266971/election-2016-behind-the-scenes/

    You’d think after an entire trip around the sun by our own planet they might have moved on. But no. I’m betting that those quoted aren’t even ashamed of their emotionalism, nor paused to reflect on their steadfast rejection of the electorate (never mind its choice of Trump), nor given a thought to anything other than doubling down.

    When I first viewed the above link, the two cross-linked pieces at the bottom were Russia Russia Russia.

    Compare:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/woman-trump-middle-finger-fired-juli-briskman

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  142. @Altai
    It's actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can't pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population. (Ie, a Japanese person is 'racialized' outside Japan, but not in Japan) So it could exclude mixed race people who look or are European enough not to have any issue identifying with the core over other groups or at all. It can also include any other group which for whatever reason (Size, time, context) continues a distinct identity despite them not being a 'visible minority' and it theoretically being possible to assimilate. An example could be Jews or to a much lesser degree in modern times Greeks and Italians in Australia, Ukrainians in Canada.

    You could say it means anyone who is ethnic 'other' to the dominant population and vice versa.

    It’s actually a good term. It essentially means anyone who can’t pass for or who has an identity which is in conflict with the core population.

    It doesn’t make any sense where the society is experiencing “Flight from White” and where “Diversity is our Greatest Strength™.”

    In most of the West including the U.S. and Canada, it”s more honored to have some or all non-white ancestry (even where one can “pass” as white), and there are material benefits attendant to having non-white ancestry.

    What else in Heaven or on Earth describes the life and times of Elizabeth Warren?

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  143. AM says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/Mangan150/status/926961600984096768

    PD Mangan is a little slice of awesome and I highly recommend anyone, but especially those interested in diet and fitness to check him out. When I was on Twitter, he was nothing but a gentleman. Masculinity at it’s finest.

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  144. Jack D says:
    @Olorin

    Montreal, thanks to it’s French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such.
     
    My first reaction was, well, yeah, Montreal also was a much more Jewish city, wasn't it? (Based on my own experience there.)

    Then I Ducked it and found this:

    http://cija.ca/resource/canadian-jewry/basic-demographics-of-the-canadian-jewish-community/

    Total Jewish population 391, 665
    16.9% of Canadian Jews are 65 or older
    25% of Quebec Jews have French as their mother tongue, and 62% are bilingual.*
    Median income for Canadian Jews (age 15+) is $30,670
    6.7% of Canadian Jews live in female-headed single-parent families
    14.6% of Canadian Jews live below the poverty line. This percentage rises to 15.7% for Canadian Jews aged 75 and older, and to 20% among Quebec Jews.

    Jewish Communities by City

    Toronto 188,710
    Montreal 90,780
    Vancouver 26,255
     
    After that the numbers fall way off fast.

    This appears to suggest that a full half of Canada's Jews live in super duper multi culti PC Toronto. There, the Two Percent constitutes about 7 percent.

    Montreal--26% nonwhite--is about 5.5 percent Two Percent.

    Vancouver, B.C., about 4.12 percent Two Percent.

    Montreal used to be the center of the Canadian Jewish community, but when the Quebecois took over from the English speakers and went nuts with all the French only stuff, a lot of the Jews too off. A lot of those left are the ultra-Orthodox who don’t care much about politics. The French speaking community of Quebec, driven by the church, was historically quite anti-Semitic.

    http://www.cmaj.ca/content/169/12/1329.full

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    The French speaking community of Quebec, driven by the church, was historically quite anti-Semitic.
     
    But they do have Pokemon points of being the downtrodden community in Quebec until the separatist movements.

    It's gotta to be difficult to know what to feel. They were oppressed by WASP jerks, just like Jews, with separate schools and elitist government positions/universities they could not go to.

    On they hand they were terrible pond scum for thinking the Jews are going to Hell and we should convert them (the horror of taking Christianity seriously) . Many or even most social climbing WASPs conveniently didn't take their Christianity at all seriously, so that's better of course on "anti-semitism" scale.

    So many difficult decisions on what's best for the Jews. ;)

    A lot of those left are the ultra-Orthodox who don’t care much about politics.
     
    Yeah, because French Canada is so totally anti-semitic you can be uber Jewish there.


    Anyway, the separatist movement is a model for expunging white guilt. At first, there was much mincing and shuffling and concessions thanks to previous said guilt. After the 2nd vote, Canada came up with a positive exit strategy that involved any province that insisted independence to be well...independent. Anglophone Canada was done after 3 decades of temper tantrums. I don't know of anyone in Canada that still feels bad about it. Unfortunately, they moved on to bigger fish guilt wise.
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  145. @anon
    Kevin Michael Grace was having some kind of undisclosed health problems for awhile now. They only came back for the Zoe Quinn episode.

    I don't know if you saw the particular cryptic notice from Kevin Steel where he said he hadn't heard from Grace for a couple of weeks, and messages and e-mails sent to Grace weren't replied to. The day after that was the day Steel announced that there would be no more shows.

    So I'm guessing it has something to do with that.

    It really is too bad. The show was always good, but it seemed to be improving all the time.

    The New York Times needs to frontlash for the emo atheists or things could get ugly no pun intended

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  146. @Cagey Beast
    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by "respectable" denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the "managerial elite" as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.

    It’s not just mainline Protestantism.

    Perhaps it is deliberate, and there was some type of alphabet agency intrusion/infiltration/propaganda effort towards various denominations to make them more friendly towards the government and business? In the new JFK files the CIA mentions that many “churchmen” are working for them and assisting them in some way.

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    Does the Ford Foundation work for the CIA or does the CIA work for the Ford Foundation? There's so much overlap between all these institutions that we might as well ask one of the fish swimming in tight formation with his fellow fish "was it your idea to turn left back there?". It seems like they just fell into tighter and tighter synch as the years rolled on.
    , @polskijoe
    Okay lots of groups have played their role in changing and infiltrating Christian churches.
    I cant list them all.

    But Freemasonry was a big one.
    Some of the Mainline churches accept Freemasonry.
    the Catholic Church and most Evangelical churches opposed Freemasonry,
    but in time Freemasonry infiltrated or effected them too.

    A Freemason almost became a Pope before being stopped (cant confirm).
    Freemasonry has several groupings and lots of lodges.

    You have Rockefeller and the World Council of Churches.

    You have Christian Zionism heavily effecting Evangelical churches.
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  147. AM says:
    @jane claire
    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven. Moses had his own people too is the point and today not excepting anyone who walks through the door would label someone an elitist. It's more to do with immigration, the Amish, the sign on the statue of liberty, the beatitudes and our ever morphing and changing history. Every time I read it it's different.
    No one denies Buddha is Asian and had his own people. The Buddhists are much like Catholics in structure in the past but they threw out God along time ago.
    We have to accept people who hate Jesus and don't see him in the same light as we do. Other than that I don't know what your talking about.

    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven

    It sounds vaguely like you were raised in a Reform or Calvinist tradition. I’m not that. :)

    It’s clear from the Gospels that the apostles were to go out to all nations.That’s where the globalists screw with everyone. Christianity is for all nations, but it does not follow that we import all nations or impose a form of the same Christianity on everyone or have zero rules about who belongs to a community. It takes the universalism of Christianity and gives a monstrous form that has little to do with the original in any Protestant, Orthodox, or Catholic tradition.

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    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it. Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don't want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?
    How's that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I'm with the Amish even if they aren't with me.
    Africans ended up here through slavery in the beginning not because they were persecuted about their religion or their belief in Jesus and most even today are probably Muslim or closer to them. Five Hundred Thousand dead whites is still good for me.
    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them. Then we have to accommodate their beliefs by demeaning ourselves and our own. So regardless of certain churches travels to bring in new people to "their church' doesn't make them MY people. The Catholics seem to have used that nation wondering more for conquering than for their lowly profit making prophet Jesus.
    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?
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  148. AM says:
    @Olorin

    Montreal, thanks to it’s French Canadian population had fair amount of bars, brothels, and such.
     
    My first reaction was, well, yeah, Montreal also was a much more Jewish city, wasn't it? (Based on my own experience there.)

    Then I Ducked it and found this:

    http://cija.ca/resource/canadian-jewry/basic-demographics-of-the-canadian-jewish-community/

    Total Jewish population 391, 665
    16.9% of Canadian Jews are 65 or older
    25% of Quebec Jews have French as their mother tongue, and 62% are bilingual.*
    Median income for Canadian Jews (age 15+) is $30,670
    6.7% of Canadian Jews live in female-headed single-parent families
    14.6% of Canadian Jews live below the poverty line. This percentage rises to 15.7% for Canadian Jews aged 75 and older, and to 20% among Quebec Jews.

    Jewish Communities by City

    Toronto 188,710
    Montreal 90,780
    Vancouver 26,255
     
    After that the numbers fall way off fast.

    This appears to suggest that a full half of Canada's Jews live in super duper multi culti PC Toronto. There, the Two Percent constitutes about 7 percent.

    Montreal--26% nonwhite--is about 5.5 percent Two Percent.

    Vancouver, B.C., about 4.12 percent Two Percent.

    Thanks for this info, it’s appreciated.

    I suspect Jack D’s other information, that it used to be more Jewish before the separatist movements, is correct. My parents took us to a deli that had smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet on St. Catherine street growing up. There used to be more than one and my Mom went to one that was quite huge when she was student nurse there.

    Also, knowing the profile of my anglophone WASP grandparents, I suspect Montreal in the late 19th century and early 20th century was an upcoming financial city. Lots of social climbing to do there and money to made. Toronto was…Toronto a central government city conveniently not Montreal.

    My WASP relatives, who all started in Montreal, drifted out as the separatist movement took hold. It wouldn’t shock me that the Jewish community drifted away as well, with Toronto being the obvious new choice.

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    They probably took you to Ben's which is gone. It was going downhill for years but the final nail in the coffin was a strike by the French speaking unionized waitstaff. Schwartz's still in business though the sign say Viande Fumée.

    Everything you say sounds about right except that Toronto is not the central government city - that would be Ottawa.
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  149. The city council in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan recently put up a few billboards slamming “White Privilege” . This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%. As the city becomes more “diversified” Whites from European/American stock (like me) are seen as a liability. The city police recently put on a “Meet The Muslims” event,and their spokeman was a Muslim officer to the force. Years ago a popular canoe race on the South Saskatchewan River(that winds itself through the city)that celebrated Louis Riel and the early pioneers, was scrapped in favour for a Dragon Boat Festival instead. I expect the Pioneer Days weekend in the Summer to someday be replaced by something much more “diverse”. The city’s politics are mixed – Conservative,Liberal and NDP (Marxist socialism) but the province is 50% Conservative and those in small towns and farms generally hate Trudeau . The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian “conservatives” are too soft….

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    The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian “conservatives” are too soft….
     
    That is, unfortunately, very weak.

    I said it before, but Canada was sort of British brain fart. There's no historically unifying events and unfortunately, most WASPs were only marginal in their Christianity. Scot Presbyterians, for instance were losing their Christianity as early as 1900. Yeah, we've got a lot of religious nutballs in the US (me included probably), but has kept some lifeblood in the Christian aspect of American culture.

    I'm trying to remember where I read it, but most of Canada conservatism has strong streak of both anti-Catholicism and anti-Americanism in it. With out those two forces to define itself, it seems to fizzle. It's bit like Europe. The conservatives don't disagree with liberals on socialism, they just disagree on the amount. It's difficult to be opposition when you mostly agree with the other guy. Plus part of a universal anti-Americianism is a post 1960's emphasis on being nicer than us unwashed clods to the south. That don't make waves attitude because that's not who are (for real) doesn't help.

    This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%.

     

    Saskatchewan is a prairie province, correct? Extremes in temperatures?

    That population mix is never going to work if this thing we call modernism hits the fan. Maybe the Asians. I do know that filling cities like yours with completely incompatible populations is favorite hobby of globalists.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    David Frum's politics are conservative in Canada.
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  150. AM says:
    @Jack D
    Montreal used to be the center of the Canadian Jewish community, but when the Quebecois took over from the English speakers and went nuts with all the French only stuff, a lot of the Jews too off. A lot of those left are the ultra-Orthodox who don't care much about politics. The French speaking community of Quebec, driven by the church, was historically quite anti-Semitic.


    http://www.cmaj.ca/content/169/12/1329.full

    The French speaking community of Quebec, driven by the church, was historically quite anti-Semitic.

    But they do have Pokemon points of being the downtrodden community in Quebec until the separatist movements.

    It’s gotta to be difficult to know what to feel. They were oppressed by WASP jerks, just like Jews, with separate schools and elitist government positions/universities they could not go to.

    On they hand they were terrible pond scum for thinking the Jews are going to Hell and we should convert them (the horror of taking Christianity seriously) . Many or even most social climbing WASPs conveniently didn’t take their Christianity at all seriously, so that’s better of course on “anti-semitism” scale.

    So many difficult decisions on what’s best for the Jews. ;)

    A lot of those left are the ultra-Orthodox who don’t care much about politics.

    Yeah, because French Canada is so totally anti-semitic you can be uber Jewish there.

    Anyway, the separatist movement is a model for expunging white guilt. At first, there was much mincing and shuffling and concessions thanks to previous said guilt. After the 2nd vote, Canada came up with a positive exit strategy that involved any province that insisted independence to be well…independent. Anglophone Canada was done after 3 decades of temper tantrums. I don’t know of anyone in Canada that still feels bad about it. Unfortunately, they moved on to bigger fish guilt wise.

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  151. AM says:
    @Raymondson
    The city council in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan recently put up a few billboards slamming "White Privilege" . This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%. As the city becomes more "diversified" Whites from European/American stock (like me) are seen as a liability. The city police recently put on a "Meet The Muslims" event,and their spokeman was a Muslim officer to the force. Years ago a popular canoe race on the South Saskatchewan River(that winds itself through the city)that celebrated Louis Riel and the early pioneers, was scrapped in favour for a Dragon Boat Festival instead. I expect the Pioneer Days weekend in the Summer to someday be replaced by something much more "diverse". The city's politics are mixed - Conservative,Liberal and NDP (Marxist socialism) but the province is 50% Conservative and those in small towns and farms generally hate Trudeau . The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian "conservatives" are too soft....

    The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian “conservatives” are too soft….

    That is, unfortunately, very weak.

    I said it before, but Canada was sort of British brain fart. There’s no historically unifying events and unfortunately, most WASPs were only marginal in their Christianity. Scot Presbyterians, for instance were losing their Christianity as early as 1900. Yeah, we’ve got a lot of religious nutballs in the US (me included probably), but has kept some lifeblood in the Christian aspect of American culture.

    I’m trying to remember where I read it, but most of Canada conservatism has strong streak of both anti-Catholicism and anti-Americanism in it. With out those two forces to define itself, it seems to fizzle. It’s bit like Europe. The conservatives don’t disagree with liberals on socialism, they just disagree on the amount. It’s difficult to be opposition when you mostly agree with the other guy. Plus part of a universal anti-Americianism is a post 1960′s emphasis on being nicer than us unwashed clods to the south. That don’t make waves attitude because that’s not who are (for real) doesn’t help.

    This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%.

    Saskatchewan is a prairie province, correct? Extremes in temperatures?

    That population mix is never going to work if this thing we call modernism hits the fan. Maybe the Asians. I do know that filling cities like yours with completely incompatible populations is favorite hobby of globalists.

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    The record low for Saskatoon is 58 below zero F. It is crazy cold in the winter.
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  152. AM says:
    @Alvin
    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church...and nothing from Steve. Deranged Uzbeki - most likely the product of generations of cousin marriages and hence super low IQ - killing far fewer people with truck results in immediate post calling for comments from Steve.

    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve.

    To double down and agree with anon, it was clear by this afternoon’s reporting that he was militant atheist. He might have done a stint at the best of his relatives, but apparently he was big on pushing atheism on his Facebook account.

    Does that reduce how “interesting” the story is now?

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    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.
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  153. [T]he white people you’re thinking of don’t go to college…

    Your complaint seems to be to be about the collapse of the white elites who should be funding such things.

    I’m thinking of the typical middle-class whites (what’s left of them) who own the hardware store, practice medicine, work as plumbers, own restaurants, and so on all over what used to be the U.S.A., from Omaha and Spokane to Jacksonville and Little Rock. There are plenty of them in otherwise horrible places, too (almost twenty per cent of the electorate in Santa Cruz voted for Donald Trump…).

    These – not the so-called elite douchebags running hedge-funds and promoting mental illness and sexual perversion as salutary, nor the poor, dumb bastards working in McDonalds or even the few factories left who live paycheck-to-paycheck and don’t know or care any better – these people are the one’s who do still send their kids to college, who do indeed have enough money to do so and to influence other matters (you think the dude flipping burgers at Hardee’s or wrenching at Jiffy Lube is paying Mexicans to remodel his kitchen?! – he cannot afford it, and he mows his own lawn, if he even has one…). The fat bastards who own and operate the local electrical contractor, the chain of car washes, the accountant’s or upholsterer’s joint; those who sit round drinking beer, watching football, and swearing up and down about how much they hate high taxes and love the marines – these are the people who could make an impact if they really meant any of the things they say (they don’t, and they know it – they are the one’s picking up the Mexicans from Home Depot each day to work for peanuts, not some coder in Silly Valley; they are the ones bemoaning their crops rotting in the fields if they are forced to pay market wages to Americans and protect those Americans from pesticides; and they are the ones who have an illegal alien working as the receptionist for their dental practice so they can make money off the invaders. They are the one’s sending their brats to universities full of evil, to be brainwashed. The professed conservatism is all a dog-and-pony show – that was my point.

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    ’m thinking of the typical middle-class whites (what’s left of them) who own the hardware store, practice medicine, work as plumbers, own restaurants, and so on all over what used to be the U.S.A., from Omaha and Spokane to Jacksonville and Little Rock.
     
    There's still struggle with a category error here. Owning a retail store or restaurant or plumbing is middle class work. They do not require degrees. Practicing medicine is professional work and was taken over by the upper classes just as soon they didn't want butchers to compete with surgeons for their business by enforcing the college degree.

    You've kind of got a main street USA idea that hasn't existed since the 1970's for sure. Lots of low class people hanging around even back then, too.

    The fat bastards who own and operate the local electrical contractor, the chain of car washes, the accountant’s or upholsterer’s joint; those who sit round drinking beer, watching football, and swearing up and down about how much they hate high taxes and love the marines – these are the people who could make an impact if they really meant any of the things they say
     
    I'm not sure that there are really that many of these people around. You can't actually own a functional electrical contracting business, accounting, or upholster and drink beer all day. I have encountered a few old farts that vaguely fit the description, but it's not like they're super thick on the ground, in my experience.

    Most small business owners with a significant net worth will be needing to skip a lot of football games to get the paper work done.

    Great title for a book that's already been taken: You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
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  154. AndrewR says:
    @Autochthon
    They are just moving the goalposts, as these types of scum always do. Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity, and are now a minority (or soon to be one) in even their own, few homelands, it won't do to ramble about how mestizos; Chinamen; Hindoo; Negroes; Amerindians; and one-eyed, one-horned, flying, purple, people-eaters are a "minority." Hence, they aren't oppressed, entitled to cash and prizes, and otherwise unable to compete with Evil White People Responsible for (Literally!) Almost All Human Progress not because they are a helpless minority without agency, no; rather, because they are ... er ... racialised persons.

    But, hey, at least all the others are safe from the purple ones, who only eat people – never persons.

    Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity

    This is obscenely false. Europe alone had 25% of the entire human population in 1900. Hardly a “tiny minority” especially given that whites ran almost the entire world then as well. Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous exaggerations. I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.

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    Actually, the white percentage was even higher. Wikipedia says, "Altogether, the areas populated by people of European descent comprised 36% of the world's population in 1900."

    From
    Graziella Caselli; Gillaume Wunsch & Jacques Vallin (2005). Demography: Analysis and Synthesis, Four Volume Set: A Treatise in Population. Academic Press via Google Books. p. 42.

    , @AndrewR
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  155. Olorin says:
    @Canadian Observer
    All of this goes to show that hostility to whiteness is the only thing uniting people of colour in Canada. Outside of that, they have nothing in common. Non-white Canadians don’t give a damn about Aboriginal history, the Underground railroad, the original French settlers, subsequent British settlement, the War of 1812, the Statute of Westminster, etc. By and large, non-white Canadian really don't care about anything outside the confines of their own specific ethnic communities. Intellectual ennui abounds here.

    In addition, recognition of whiteness has no place in university discourse in this country except to play the role of rapist and colonizer. According to the current Canadian narrative, any positive contributions that Europeans made in this land were done completely by accident or by happenstance.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    There are also rumblings on Bay Street that our economy is about to go into the crapper very soon now.

    If the Conservative Party of Canada runs a guy who isn’t completely cucked in 2019, the party will win in a landslide. They will have the kind of mandate Stephen Harper never had.

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.

    I’m curious to hear from a genuine leaf what you think Tommy Douglas’s reaction to all this would have been.

    David Lewis or Ed Broadbent? Any thoughts?

    I think I can guess what Jack Layton would have thought. Maybe also Alexa McDonough.

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    I met Jack Layton a couple of years before he died. I thanked him for calling out the futility of our country's involvement in the Afghanistan War. He was a real left-wing cuck though. He gave out a strong homosexual vibe - what, with his doughty face and sexless marriage with his Asian beard.

    The height of the Canadian left's ideological superficiality was on full display during Mr. Layton's state funeral in Toronto in 2011. Mr. Layton arranged his own funeral in advance with the most godawful display of both the saccharine and the ridiculous. First, he had a Jewish rabbi, a Muslim preacher, an Aboriginal healer and some nondescript Christian priest administer rites on his body. He then had notorious and flagrant homosexual pastor Brent Hawkes give the sermon on national T.V. who highlighted Mr. Layton's progressive credentials vis-a-vis gays, trannies, people of colour, etc. (note: Pastor Hawkes was arrested a few years on suspicion of sex crimes against teenagers). All the while, thousands of soya-munching hipsters were outside Roy Thomson Hall ringing their bicycle bells in support of this sophomoric display of progressivism.

    I remember an Indian friend of mine telling me that day after watching Jack Layton's funeral on T.V. that "white people have no balls".

    If Layton were alive today, he would be calling out racism left, right and center.
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  156. @AM

    Jesus chose his own people regardless of whatever adult rites your religious leaders designed for you. Jesus already said which of those will get to heaven
     
    It sounds vaguely like you were raised in a Reform or Calvinist tradition. I'm not that. :)

    It's clear from the Gospels that the apostles were to go out to all nations.That's where the globalists screw with everyone. Christianity is for all nations, but it does not follow that we import all nations or impose a form of the same Christianity on everyone or have zero rules about who belongs to a community. It takes the universalism of Christianity and gives a monstrous form that has little to do with the original in any Protestant, Orthodox, or Catholic tradition.

    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it. Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don’t want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?
    How’s that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I’m with the Amish even if they aren’t with me.
    Africans ended up here through slavery in the beginning not because they were persecuted about their religion or their belief in Jesus and most even today are probably Muslim or closer to them. Five Hundred Thousand dead whites is still good for me.
    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them. Then we have to accommodate their beliefs by demeaning ourselves and our own. So regardless of certain churches travels to bring in new people to “their church’ doesn’t make them MY people. The Catholics seem to have used that nation wondering more for conquering than for their lowly profit making prophet Jesus.
    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?

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    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it.
     
    Yes, that's fine. The point is that Christ offered a universal moral law: the 10 Commandments in the spirit of loving your neighbor as yourself. But it says nothing about the way you live the rest of your life.

    If we could get every there, the world might be a pretty nice place, with Christianity preserving the best of each culture. It did in every European sub-culture it touched. German's love of nature and forests - the English choir and love their language, the Italian Renaissance. The list goes on and on.

    God loves diversity. Christianity preserves it and history, too. It's part of the reason I'm against globalism and open borders. We turn into aweful neutered mush of gray, with no history and no hope.

    Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don’t want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?
     
    This has already happened and more than once. It was the Arian heresy, which got folded into the mother of all heresies, Islam. Protestants of different branches tend to revisit this.

    It is not globalism that makes Jesus a mere prophet - it's a common problem almost as old as Christianity because I think we don't want to deal with such massive issue as God walking the earth.

    One of the Popes in the early 20th century is on record as say that modernism is the sum of all heresies. In this case globalism just fold in an old but good one.

    How’s that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I’m with the Amish even if they aren’t with me.
     
    Two of the fastest growing Christian populations are China and Africa. On the whole, not bad, I'd say.


    And when was the last time you saw an Amish terrorist? I'd say they past the good neighbor test, anyway. Most Christians do, even the ones that shred up the theology to almost unrecognizable.

    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them
     
    You didn't have to accommodate them and for most of American history, they weren't. But they did fit into the Protestant model because the moral framework was the same. They turned into just another denomination at that point.

    The US worked because it used the Protestant framework and the first big wave of others mostly fit. Today is a nightmare.

    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?
     
    Christianity, when lived and understood properly forms concentric rings of priority. God, family, friends, community, country, and world, in that order. I can't help the kid in Africa if got my hands full with my family, friends, and community and it's okay. The globalist feel good version inverts that order and thereby perverts Christianity.

    I don't need to be God's chosen or whatever to love my history, my family, myself and want to preserve it. My heritage is best preserved here, just like someone from Africa is ultimately best preserved in their own country. God creates the nations and globalism in that context, is the Tower of Babel project again.
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  157. AndrewR says:
    @jimmyriddle
    oIf the Uzbek had done his thing in Uzbekistan, Sailer wouldn't have bothered with a blog post.

    The point of the blog was that the Uzbek did it in the USA and that there is no rational reason the USA needs to import problems from Uzbekistan.

    Simples.

    What’s even simpler to understand is that when guys like the nutjobs in Sutherland Springs and Las Vegas kill many people, it makes arguments to restrict Muslim immigration look less rational and more simply motivated by bigotry. I mean yeah, per capita, Muslims definitely seem to be the reigning champions of mass murder, but most people have a tough time with proportions, and, in any case, this stuff makes it harder to refute the inevitable “but wypipo do bad stuff too” argument against restricting Muslim immigration.

    And I realize Sailer is geekishly snobby and seems to pride himself on not posting about things that non-Sailer people are actually noticing and talking about, but something like what happened yesterday deserves at least a short post in a timely manner.

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    I mean yeah, per capita, Muslims definitely seem to be the reigning champions of mass murder, but most people have a tough time with proportions, and, in any case, this stuff makes it harder to refute the inevitable “but wypipo do bad stuff too” argument against restricting Muslim immigration.
     
    It's not "seems", it is. I'm bit surprised you've never seen the comparative religion charts that floats around the alt-right. It is 1400 years of piracy, slavery, and murder, all started by the founder. Only atheism in the 20th century managed to exceed their body counts.

    Literally, it's like importing a bunch of communists from Russia while it was the USSR and being shocked, shocked, shocked that they're attacking capitalist targets. Islam is much better understood as competing political system with a religious component than stand alone religion like you're probably used to thinking about with Christianity.

    Islam, when given enough mass, will attack Christianity or any society founded on political principles that are not Islamic. It's that simple, unfortunately. We're a special category of special needs right now to ignore history's painful lessons on that point.

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  158. Truth says:
    @for-the-record
    Rand Paul has 5 broken ribs, yet his attacker has only been charged with a misdemeanor and is wandering around on a $7500 bond.

    Here's the first information I have seen about his attacker, which casts some light on what otherwise might seem an inexplicable assault and battery (given that it was by a neighbor).

    The man responsible for attacking Sen. Rand Paul Friday afternoon was an avowed liberal who frequently fought with his neighbors about politics, according to a report Sunday from The Washington Post.

    Local citizens say Rene Boucher, the 59-year-old man who assaulted Paul, was a socialist who frequently fought with neighbors about health care policies and other liberal issues. Boucher and Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, they told reporters.

    Jeff Jones, a registered nurse who worked with Boucher at the Bowling Green Medical Center, described Paul’s attacker’s politics as “liberal.”

    “He was active on social media and said some negative things about the Republican agenda,” Jones said of Boucher, a Bowling Green, S.C., citizen who lives in the same gated community as Paul. “I think it was unfortunate that they lived so close together.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/neighbors-say-rand-pauls-attacker-was-an-avowed-socialist

     

    His wife told him to return the poor guy’s weed whacker.

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    Another tragic case of white-coat on white-coat violence.
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  159. AndrewR says:
    @AM

    Interesting, white bible study teacher goes on shooting rampage at church…and nothing from Steve.
     
    To double down and agree with anon, it was clear by this afternoon's reporting that he was militant atheist. He might have done a stint at the best of his relatives, but apparently he was big on pushing atheism on his Facebook account.

    Does that reduce how "interesting" the story is now?

    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.

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    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.
     
    Very much agreed. It's just this one isn't the "Christian goes berserk" story so beloved by the lefties.
    , @AndrewR
    Lol after I wrote that last line I realized it was meaner than I really wanted my comment to be, but I could no longer edit the comment thanks to one of the site glitches that have yet to be fixed.
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  160. Truth says:
    @eah

    The dude in the picture should have represented “Rich Republican business owners.”

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  161. AndrewR says:
    @Coloring person
    It's a white nationalist site. You shouldn't expect anything different.

    a) no, it’s not (although Ron Unz is more tolerant of white nationalism than 99.9% of Jews are)

    b) there is no evidence I am aware of that Sailer is a WN; he seems to have a preference for people ethnically similar to himself, but that’s not the same as white nationalism

    c) even from a strictly WN perspective, any mass shooting is relevant discussion material; incidents of mass shootings by “whites” are used (understandably) to refute many WN arguments

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    Andrew, yes it. It makes you feel better to pretend otherwise, because you prefer to not think of yourself as a WN.

    (I'm talking about Steve's site here, not Unz.com generally.)

    Steve makes feints towards "citizenism" sometimes, but his posts show that his attitude toward his fellow pre1968 black citizens doesn't differ much from his attitude towards recent illegal mexican arrivals. Contempt.

    And sometimes this site will talk about the importance of IQ (which is not a real WN thing), but that faded quite a bit when Steve's kid started applying for college admissions, and led to a ridiculous number of posts about how Asians didn't really have high IQ because standardized tests are biased/ Asians cheat/ SAT prep is unfair/ whinewhinewhine.

    (There is the small complicating factor that Steve suspects, or he used to, that his biological mom is Jewish. But he hardly ever mentions that any more, for obvious reasons.)

    I've been reading iSteve for nearing 2 decades. It is entertaining. Sometimes enlightening. And some of the commenters are the most insightful you'll find in a WN site. But i don't delude myself about the nature of this site. Neither should you.
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  162. AM says:
    @Autochthon

    [T]he white people you’re thinking of don’t go to college...

    Your complaint seems to be to be about the collapse of the white elites who should be funding such things.
     
    I'm thinking of the typical middle-class whites (what's left of them) who own the hardware store, practice medicine, work as plumbers, own restaurants, and so on all over what used to be the U.S.A., from Omaha and Spokane to Jacksonville and Little Rock. There are plenty of them in otherwise horrible places, too (almost twenty per cent of the electorate in Santa Cruz voted for Donald Trump...).

    These – not the so-called elite douchebags running hedge-funds and promoting mental illness and sexual perversion as salutary, nor the poor, dumb bastards working in McDonalds or even the few factories left who live paycheck-to-paycheck and don't know or care any better – these people are the one's who do still send their kids to college, who do indeed have enough money to do so and to influence other matters (you think the dude flipping burgers at Hardee's or wrenching at Jiffy Lube is paying Mexicans to remodel his kitchen?! – he cannot afford it, and he mows his own lawn, if he even has one...). The fat bastards who own and operate the local electrical contractor, the chain of car washes, the accountant's or upholsterer's joint; those who sit round drinking beer, watching football, and swearing up and down about how much they hate high taxes and love the marines – these are the people who could make an impact if they really meant any of the things they say (they don't, and they know it – they are the one's picking up the Mexicans from Home Depot each day to work for peanuts, not some coder in Silly Valley; they are the ones bemoaning their crops rotting in the fields if they are forced to pay market wages to Americans and protect those Americans from pesticides; and they are the ones who have an illegal alien working as the receptionist for their dental practice so they can make money off the invaders. They are the one's sending their brats to universities full of evil, to be brainwashed. The professed conservatism is all a dog-and-pony show – that was my point.

    ’m thinking of the typical middle-class whites (what’s left of them) who own the hardware store, practice medicine, work as plumbers, own restaurants, and so on all over what used to be the U.S.A., from Omaha and Spokane to Jacksonville and Little Rock.

    There’s still struggle with a category error here. Owning a retail store or restaurant or plumbing is middle class work. They do not require degrees. Practicing medicine is professional work and was taken over by the upper classes just as soon they didn’t want butchers to compete with surgeons for their business by enforcing the college degree.

    You’ve kind of got a main street USA idea that hasn’t existed since the 1970′s for sure. Lots of low class people hanging around even back then, too.

    The fat bastards who own and operate the local electrical contractor, the chain of car washes, the accountant’s or upholsterer’s joint; those who sit round drinking beer, watching football, and swearing up and down about how much they hate high taxes and love the marines – these are the people who could make an impact if they really meant any of the things they say

    I’m not sure that there are really that many of these people around. You can’t actually own a functional electrical contracting business, accounting, or upholster and drink beer all day. I have encountered a few old farts that vaguely fit the description, but it’s not like they’re super thick on the ground, in my experience.

    Most small business owners with a significant net worth will be needing to skip a lot of football games to get the paper work done.

    Great title for a book that’s already been taken: You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.

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    In no particular order, and doubtless omitting some of the nonsense you're writing vis-a-vis some axe or other you wish to grind with me:

    - Yes, when anyone alludes to another's "drinking all day" it's accepted by long convention that the speaker means the referent literally pours liquid down his throat incessantly, and not that, for instance, he may spend his Saturdays lazing about and swilling beer. Contextual clues that the speaker is placing the "drinking all day" with the time the referent spends speaking with others and pontificating or complaining help to establish this usage.

    - Asia has had a vastly larger population than Europe at least since the industrial revolution, and many very credible scholars present compelling evidence this has been the case for all of human history. At best, yes, it is true Europeans may at one time possibly approached twenty-five per cent of the global human population. While this amount may not be best described as a "tiny minority" (a point I concede for the sake of argument and because of its own imprecision), it is decidedly not any kind of overwhelming percentage, either: it is a very solidly a minority, and, history aside, my more important point that we are now a tiny and rapidly shrinking minority stands.

    I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.
     
    Thou sayest.
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  163. AM says:
    @AndrewR
    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.

    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.

    Very much agreed. It’s just this one isn’t the “Christian goes berserk” story so beloved by the lefties.

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  164. This is at Harvard too: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/06/harvard-law-dean-denounces-okay-to-be-white-stickers-on-campus/

    In an email message, Dean Sells said that the content of the stickers was “intended to divide us from one another.”

    “HLS [Harvard Law School] will not let that happen here. We live, work, teach, and learn together in a community that is stronger, better, and deeper because of our diversity and because we encourage open, respectful, and constructive discourse.”

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  165. AndrewR says:
    @AndrewR
    Not at all. The back stories with mass shootings are always absolutely fascinating. Without exception.

    Lol after I wrote that last line I realized it was meaner than I really wanted my comment to be, but I could no longer edit the comment thanks to one of the site glitches that have yet to be fixed.

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  166. eah says:
    @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN-c3hpU8AYu4yN.jpg

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  167. AM says:
    @AndrewR
    What's even simpler to understand is that when guys like the nutjobs in Sutherland Springs and Las Vegas kill many people, it makes arguments to restrict Muslim immigration look less rational and more simply motivated by bigotry. I mean yeah, per capita, Muslims definitely seem to be the reigning champions of mass murder, but most people have a tough time with proportions, and, in any case, this stuff makes it harder to refute the inevitable "but wypipo do bad stuff too" argument against restricting Muslim immigration.

    And I realize Sailer is geekishly snobby and seems to pride himself on not posting about things that non-Sailer people are actually noticing and talking about, but something like what happened yesterday deserves at least a short post in a timely manner.

    I mean yeah, per capita, Muslims definitely seem to be the reigning champions of mass murder, but most people have a tough time with proportions, and, in any case, this stuff makes it harder to refute the inevitable “but wypipo do bad stuff too” argument against restricting Muslim immigration.

    It’s not “seems”, it is. I’m bit surprised you’ve never seen the comparative religion charts that floats around the alt-right. It is 1400 years of piracy, slavery, and murder, all started by the founder. Only atheism in the 20th century managed to exceed their body counts.

    Literally, it’s like importing a bunch of communists from Russia while it was the USSR and being shocked, shocked, shocked that they’re attacking capitalist targets. Islam is much better understood as competing political system with a religious component than stand alone religion like you’re probably used to thinking about with Christianity.

    Islam, when given enough mass, will attack Christianity or any society founded on political principles that are not Islamic. It’s that simple, unfortunately. We’re a special category of special needs right now to ignore history’s painful lessons on that point.

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  168. Moses says:

    Posters that don’t comply with procedures are removed by caretaking and grounds staff. Messages like this are antithetical to the University’s commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion,” the statement continued.

    I’ve lived in a communist country. Vague statements like “X doesn’t comply with procedures” are *exactly* how communist governments stifle dissenting opinion. They never actually explain what the “procedures” [usually it's "state security"] are or how X violated it. They keep everything ambiguous so they can use the pretext of “law” to oppress any speech they don’t like.

    What’s happening here is unsettling to say the least. It’s a violation of Free Speech, plain and simple.

    Tyranny is the natural state of human affairs. I fear for our Republic.

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  169. Olorin says:
    @abby
    Back in the sixties, there was an activity called "guerrilla theater." I think it got started in San Francisco. The object of the "players" was to use unknowing real people as co-stars, and improvise scenes without their knowledge to expose their hypocrisy.

    It was a bit like "Candid Camera" but with political or social aims. It was quite popular for a time.

    One could call it, "public satire."

    Anyway, the minute I read this was going on, on college campuses, I felt intuitively that's what these college students were engaging in. I don't know if they just did it spontaneously–seems too clever for that–or the author heard about "guerrilla theater," and decided to try it for fun.

    But it is working it's magic, just like it did back in the day.

    Oh, look at me, after I typed all that I looked it up, and it's history is in Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_theatre

    In any case, if they haven't discovered it already, I believe once college kids get the idea of "guerrilla theater" in their heads, in this political climate, we'll be seeing more social tomfuckery than we can shake a stick at.

    All said and done, "it's okay to be white" is a classic guerrilla theater move. If I were a college student, I'd certainly indulge myself with gluing posters featuring that missive in odd places about campus.

    And then I would laugh and laugh.

    College is boring. Making stupid people deconstruct themselves is fun.

    Offshoot of Situationism IIRC.

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  170. Moses says:
    @Opinionator
    At this point it is unclear whether Richard Spencer has any function other than to rally nonwhites and motivate Democrats to the polls.

    The tiki torch incident in Cville convinced me that Spencer is controlled opposition. The optics of that event were tailor-made for breathless exploitation by the MSM to promote the KKKrazy glue of rampant “White Nationalism.”

    At best (and this is being charitable) Spencer is a hopeless idiot. At worst (likely) he’s an agent of the left.

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  171. @S. Anonyia
    It's not just mainline Protestantism.

    Perhaps it is deliberate, and there was some type of alphabet agency intrusion/infiltration/propaganda effort towards various denominations to make them more friendly towards the government and business? In the new JFK files the CIA mentions that many "churchmen" are working for them and assisting them in some way.

    Does the Ford Foundation work for the CIA or does the CIA work for the Ford Foundation? There’s so much overlap between all these institutions that we might as well ask one of the fish swimming in tight formation with his fellow fish “was it your idea to turn left back there?”. It seems like they just fell into tighter and tighter synch as the years rolled on.

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  172. AM says:
    @jane claire
    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it. Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don't want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?
    How's that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I'm with the Amish even if they aren't with me.
    Africans ended up here through slavery in the beginning not because they were persecuted about their religion or their belief in Jesus and most even today are probably Muslim or closer to them. Five Hundred Thousand dead whites is still good for me.
    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them. Then we have to accommodate their beliefs by demeaning ourselves and our own. So regardless of certain churches travels to bring in new people to "their church' doesn't make them MY people. The Catholics seem to have used that nation wondering more for conquering than for their lowly profit making prophet Jesus.
    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?

    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it.

    Yes, that’s fine. The point is that Christ offered a universal moral law: the 10 Commandments in the spirit of loving your neighbor as yourself. But it says nothing about the way you live the rest of your life.

    If we could get every there, the world might be a pretty nice place, with Christianity preserving the best of each culture. It did in every European sub-culture it touched. German’s love of nature and forests – the English choir and love their language, the Italian Renaissance. The list goes on and on.

    God loves diversity. Christianity preserves it and history, too. It’s part of the reason I’m against globalism and open borders. We turn into aweful neutered mush of gray, with no history and no hope.

    Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don’t want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?

    This has already happened and more than once. It was the Arian heresy, which got folded into the mother of all heresies, Islam. Protestants of different branches tend to revisit this.

    It is not globalism that makes Jesus a mere prophet – it’s a common problem almost as old as Christianity because I think we don’t want to deal with such massive issue as God walking the earth.

    One of the Popes in the early 20th century is on record as say that modernism is the sum of all heresies. In this case globalism just fold in an old but good one.

    How’s that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I’m with the Amish even if they aren’t with me.

    Two of the fastest growing Christian populations are China and Africa. On the whole, not bad, I’d say.

    And when was the last time you saw an Amish terrorist? I’d say they past the good neighbor test, anyway. Most Christians do, even the ones that shred up the theology to almost unrecognizable.

    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them

    You didn’t have to accommodate them and for most of American history, they weren’t. But they did fit into the Protestant model because the moral framework was the same. They turned into just another denomination at that point.

    The US worked because it used the Protestant framework and the first big wave of others mostly fit. Today is a nightmare.

    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?

    Christianity, when lived and understood properly forms concentric rings of priority. God, family, friends, community, country, and world, in that order. I can’t help the kid in Africa if got my hands full with my family, friends, and community and it’s okay. The globalist feel good version inverts that order and thereby perverts Christianity.

    I don’t need to be God’s chosen or whatever to love my history, my family, myself and want to preserve it. My heritage is best preserved here, just like someone from Africa is ultimately best preserved in their own country. God creates the nations and globalism in that context, is the Tower of Babel project again.

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    FWIW, Arianism didn't turn Jesus into "just another prophet."

    It said he was not quite God, which is a pretty darn big step above just another prophet.
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  173. Jack D says:
    @AM
    Thanks for this info, it's appreciated.

    I suspect Jack D's other information, that it used to be more Jewish before the separatist movements, is correct. My parents took us to a deli that had smoked meat and the driest cheesecake on the planet on St. Catherine street growing up. There used to be more than one and my Mom went to one that was quite huge when she was student nurse there.

    Also, knowing the profile of my anglophone WASP grandparents, I suspect Montreal in the late 19th century and early 20th century was an upcoming financial city. Lots of social climbing to do there and money to made. Toronto was...Toronto a central government city conveniently not Montreal.

    My WASP relatives, who all started in Montreal, drifted out as the separatist movement took hold. It wouldn't shock me that the Jewish community drifted away as well, with Toronto being the obvious new choice.

    They probably took you to Ben’s which is gone. It was going downhill for years but the final nail in the coffin was a strike by the French speaking unionized waitstaff. Schwartz’s still in business though the sign say Viande Fumée.

    Everything you say sounds about right except that Toronto is not the central government city – that would be Ottawa.

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  174. Corvinus says:
    @TangoMan
    There was no racial tension at the University of Toronto when all of the students were White, therefore it is the presence of minorities, not these posters, which is creating and raising tensions on the campus.

    “There was no racial tension at the University of Toronto when all of the students were White, therefore it is the presence of minorities, not these posters, which is creating and raising tensions on the campus.”

    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend. As a result, there was a movement to ensure that non-whites would be able to secure an education here.

    Now, the better meme is that “it’s ok to be a person”. That’s something that normies get on board with.

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    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend.
     
    All whites? WTF are you talking about?

    Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?
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  175. Jack D says:
    @AM

    The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian “conservatives” are too soft….
     
    That is, unfortunately, very weak.

    I said it before, but Canada was sort of British brain fart. There's no historically unifying events and unfortunately, most WASPs were only marginal in their Christianity. Scot Presbyterians, for instance were losing their Christianity as early as 1900. Yeah, we've got a lot of religious nutballs in the US (me included probably), but has kept some lifeblood in the Christian aspect of American culture.

    I'm trying to remember where I read it, but most of Canada conservatism has strong streak of both anti-Catholicism and anti-Americanism in it. With out those two forces to define itself, it seems to fizzle. It's bit like Europe. The conservatives don't disagree with liberals on socialism, they just disagree on the amount. It's difficult to be opposition when you mostly agree with the other guy. Plus part of a universal anti-Americianism is a post 1960's emphasis on being nicer than us unwashed clods to the south. That don't make waves attitude because that's not who are (for real) doesn't help.

    This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%.

     

    Saskatchewan is a prairie province, correct? Extremes in temperatures?

    That population mix is never going to work if this thing we call modernism hits the fan. Maybe the Asians. I do know that filling cities like yours with completely incompatible populations is favorite hobby of globalists.

    The record low for Saskatoon is 58 below zero F. It is crazy cold in the winter.

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  176. “Racialized” is now a popular term being bandied about both in government and SJW circles. I think the term was originally used by the Ontario Human Rights Commission to describe litigants who have not been tainted by the Original Sin of Whiteness. The body which governs our lawyers – the Law Society of Upper Canada – introduced the term “racialized lawyer” a few years ago to describe all non-white lawyers practicing in this province. That regulatory body is run completely by cat ladies and SJWs. And I think those women are mostly Margaret Atwood types, sprinkled in with a few East Indians and token blacks.

    Racialized sounds and looks much like the word “radicalized”. To me, it strikes me as a term which describes something terrible that happened to an individual at birth.

    “What happened to you, oh poor coloured woman?”… “I was racialized at birth by male white corporate oppression!”.

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    Racialized sounds and looks much like the word “radicalized”. -- Canadian Observer
     
    To me, 'radocalized' is a term used to describe a young 2nd generation Moslem, in say Denmark or Minnesota. who becomes convinced to join a jihadi militant group and go off to Syria to fight and/or die for ISIS. Canadian Observer takes the term in some other (specifically Canadian) context, but that's how it sounds to me. So, I didn't get it before reading Canadian Observer's comment, but I guess 'racialized' would be some white youngster who has not thought of himself or herself as 'white' until recently being 'racialized' ... and then might go off somewhere to join a WN group somewhere. Anyway, that's how I'll understand the term until that understanding ceases to work for me.

    Thanks, Canadian Observer!

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  177. White is a dirty word.

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  178. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @TangoMan
    Marcella Bollers works and goes to school at the university. She refers to the posters as “sad, pathetic and funny,” attributing them to people who feel threatened by equality.

    Leftists benefit tremendously from having such a simple to express and reasonable sounding viewpoint. How can the Right match that view? "Threatened by equality" translates into laws which privilege minorities at the expense of Whites, laws which bequeath to minorities the societal inheritance bequeathed to Whites by THEIR ANCESTORS, laws which trample freedom of association in order to create equal outcomes for minorities which they can't achieve on their own, etc, etc. All of that is portrayed as "equality."

    Maybe "You're stealing from my heritage, go back and develop the heritage your ancestors left to you" is something to play around with.

    You’re stealing from my heritage, go back and develop the heritage your ancestors left to you” is something to play around with.

    How about #StopAppropriatingWhiteTechnology ??

    ..that would include pretty much anything that runs on electricity, anything that has a wheel, anything that is made of metal…

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  179. Some fiendishly clever person should have a bunch of buttons printed up reading just “OK” (white on black) and hand them out for free. How can OK be offensive?

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    The Coca-Cola company tried that during the 90s, to appeal to the Gen-X crowd.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Soda

    It was a huge failure then, but who knows? Maybe it's old enough now to seem retro.
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  180. @AndrewR

    Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity
     
    This is obscenely false. Europe alone had 25% of the entire human population in 1900. Hardly a "tiny minority" especially given that whites ran almost the entire world then as well. Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous exaggerations. I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.

    Actually, the white percentage was even higher. Wikipedia says, “Altogether, the areas populated by people of European descent comprised 36% of the world’s population in 1900.”

    From
    Graziella Caselli; Gillaume Wunsch & Jacques Vallin (2005). Demography: Analysis and Synthesis, Four Volume Set: A Treatise in Population. Academic Press via Google Books. p. 42.

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    Right. Although that part was ambiguous. Some of the people in "areas populated by people of European descent" have always been of non-European descent.
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  181. @Olorin

    The funny thing is that both the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada have been completely taken over by SJWs/feminists/people of colour. Neither party has anything interesting to say except the same tired mantras of “more social justice” and “more immigration”. It’s sad and tragic. But it’s also quite boring. The left in Canada is a life-draining force completely devoid of any of the intellectual rigour it once had.
     
    I'm curious to hear from a genuine leaf what you think Tommy Douglas's reaction to all this would have been.

    David Lewis or Ed Broadbent? Any thoughts?

    I think I can guess what Jack Layton would have thought. Maybe also Alexa McDonough.

    I met Jack Layton a couple of years before he died. I thanked him for calling out the futility of our country’s involvement in the Afghanistan War. He was a real left-wing cuck though. He gave out a strong homosexual vibe – what, with his doughty face and sexless marriage with his Asian beard.

    The height of the Canadian left’s ideological superficiality was on full display during Mr. Layton’s state funeral in Toronto in 2011. Mr. Layton arranged his own funeral in advance with the most godawful display of both the saccharine and the ridiculous. First, he had a Jewish rabbi, a Muslim preacher, an Aboriginal healer and some nondescript Christian priest administer rites on his body. He then had notorious and flagrant homosexual pastor Brent Hawkes give the sermon on national T.V. who highlighted Mr. Layton’s progressive credentials vis-a-vis gays, trannies, people of colour, etc. (note: Pastor Hawkes was arrested a few years on suspicion of sex crimes against teenagers). All the while, thousands of soya-munching hipsters were outside Roy Thomson Hall ringing their bicycle bells in support of this sophomoric display of progressivism.

    I remember an Indian friend of mine telling me that day after watching Jack Layton’s funeral on T.V. that “white people have no balls”.

    If Layton were alive today, he would be calling out racism left, right and center.

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  182. Lagertha says:
    @Autochthon
    You know, if the Lazy & Stupid Yet Ostensibly Conservative –not people like Steve's readers, but the type who claim conservative outrage at all the globohomo crazy but then get right back to focusing on underpaying Mexican helots to mow lawns and remodel their kitchens, buying cheap Chinese shit from Mega-Lo-Mart, and subsidising the NFL and Hollywood with the tee-vee and picture-show between re-electing Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell every few years – if those types actually gave a damn about anything, and put just the slightest effort into actually living their professed values in this one area of life (education), then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.

    I know thousands of highly educated people who voted for Trump…who are standing by, ready to help. It is deplorable that many have to be discrete now; but make no mistake, these people have millions of dollars, billions to get the ball rolling in the direction of Conservatism/Libertarianism for decades to come.

    My grandfather would be so proud if I can drive a dagger through the heart of socialism/Bolshevism these next few years in the USA – and, I try to fight that fight every day. Conservatives have been cowed to be silent and not be noticed for years; but heck, they have the power now.…and that is what scares liberals. Liberals are an embarrassment with their sex scandals, money laudering issues, in the DNC and elsewhere; their cat fights, their general whinyness. Liberals are so effing whiny and insecure…always screeching about being a victim of something. Liberals will not attract any young guys. And, sooner or later, the young women will wake up and realize they don’t wanna be cat-ladies who drive Subaru Foresters.

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  183. polskijoe says:
    @S. Anonyia
    It's not just mainline Protestantism.

    Perhaps it is deliberate, and there was some type of alphabet agency intrusion/infiltration/propaganda effort towards various denominations to make them more friendly towards the government and business? In the new JFK files the CIA mentions that many "churchmen" are working for them and assisting them in some way.

    Okay lots of groups have played their role in changing and infiltrating Christian churches.
    I cant list them all.

    But Freemasonry was a big one.
    Some of the Mainline churches accept Freemasonry.
    the Catholic Church and most Evangelical churches opposed Freemasonry,
    but in time Freemasonry infiltrated or effected them too.

    A Freemason almost became a Pope before being stopped (cant confirm).
    Freemasonry has several groupings and lots of lodges.

    You have Rockefeller and the World Council of Churches.

    You have Christian Zionism heavily effecting Evangelical churches.

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  184. Harold says:

    My suggestions for subsequent poster campaigns:

    It’s not okay to be white.

    It will be amusing to see how they react.

    Or, not really serious,

    It’s okayish to be white?

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  185. @Cagey Beast
    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by "respectable" denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the "managerial elite" as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.

    Been that way for a long time.

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801396,00.html

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/time42.htm

    American Malvern

    Monday, Mar. 16, 1942
    Religion: American Malvern

    These are the high spots of organized U.S. Protestantism’s super-protestant new program for a just and durable peace after World War II:

    Ultimately, “a world government of delegated powers.”
    Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism.
    Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty.
    International control of all armies & navies.
    “A universal system of money … so planned as to prevent inflation and deflation.”
    Worldwide freedom of immigration.
    Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade.
    “Autonomy for all subject and colo nial peoples” (with much better treatment for Negroes in the U.S.).
    “No punitive reparations, no humiliating decrees of war guilt, no arbitrary dismemberment of nations.”
    A “democratically controlled” international bank “to make development capital available in all parts of the world without the predatory and imperialistic aftermath so characteristic of large-scale private and governmental loans.”

    This program was adopted last week by 375 appointed representatives of 30-odd denominations called together at Ohio Wesleyan University by the Federal Council of Churches. Every local Protestant church in the country will now be urged to get behind the program. “As Christian citizens,” its sponsors affirmed, “we must seek to translate our beliefs into practical realities and to create a public opinion which will insure that the United States shall play its full and essential part in the creation of a moral way of international living.”

    Among the 375 delegates who drafted the program were 15 bishops of five denominations, seven seminary heads (including Yale, Chicago, Princeton, Colgate-Rochester), eight college and university presidents (including Princeton’s Harold W. Dodds), practically all the ranking officials of the Federal Council and a group of well-known laymen, including John R. Mott, Irving Fisher and Harvey S. Firestone Jr. “Intellectually,” said Methodist Bishop Ivan Lee Holt of Texas, “this is the most distinguished American church gathering I have seen in 30 years of conference-going.”

    The meeting showed its temper early by passing a set of 13 “requisite principles for peace” submitted by Chairman John Foster Dulles and his inter-church Commission to Study the Bases of a Just and Durable Peace. These principles, far from putting all the onus on Germany or Japan, bade the U.S. give thought to the short sighted selfishness of its own policies after World War I, declared that the U.S. would have to turn over a new leaf if the world is to enjoy lasting peace. Excerpts:

    For at least a generation we have held preponderant economic power in the world, and with it the capacity to influence decisively the shaping of world events. It should be a matter of shame and humiliation to us that actually the influences shaping the world have largely been irresponsible forces. Our own positive influence has been impaired because of concentration on self and on our short-range material gains. … If the future is to be other than a repetition of the past, the U.S. must accept the responsibility for constructive action commensurate with its power and opportunity.”
    “The natural wealth of the world is not evenly distributed. Accordingly the possession of such natural resources … is a trust to be discharged in the general interest. This calls for more than an offer to sell to all on equal terms. Such an offer may be a futile gesture unless those in need can, through the selling of their own goods and services, acquire the means of buying.”

    With these principles accepted, the conference split up into four groups to study, respectively, the social, economic and political problems of the post-war world and the problem of the church’s own position in that world. 1 Discussion waxed hot and heavy, with one notable silence: in a week when the Japs were taking Java, discussion of the war itself was practically taboo. Reason: The Federal Council felt that, since five of its other commissions are directly connected with the war effort, the conference’s concern should be with plans for peace. One war statement – “the Christian Church as such is not at war” – was proposed by Editor Charles Clayton Morrison, of the influential and isolationist-before-Pearl-Harbor Christian Century. This statement was actually inserted in a subcommittee report by a 64-58 vote after a sharp debate. In the plenary session, however, it was ruled out of order.

    Some of the conference’s economic opinions were almost as sensational as the extreme internationalism of its political program. It held that “a new order of economic life is both imminent and imperative” -a new order that is sure to come either “through voluntary cooperation within the framework of democracy or through explosive political revolution.” Without condemning the profit motive as such, it denounced various defects in the profit system for breeding war, demagogues and dictators, “mass unemployment, widespread dispossession from homes and farms, destitution, lack of opportunity for youth and of security for old age.” Instead, “the church must demand economic arrangements measured by human welfare . . . must appeal to the Christian motive of human service as paramount to personal gain or governmental coercion.”

    “Collectivism is coming, whether we like it or not,” the delegates were told by no less a churchman than England’s Dr. William Paton, co-secretary of the World Council of Churches, but the conference did not veer as far to the left as its definitely pinko British counterpart, the now famous Malvern Conference (TIME, Jan. 20, 1941). It did, however, back up Labor’s demand for an increasing share in industrial management. It echoed Labor’s shibboleth that the denial of collective bargaining “reduces labor to a commodity.” It urged taxation designed “to the end that our wealth may be more equitably distributed. “It urged experimentation with government and cooperative ownership.

    “Every individual,” the conference declared, “has the right to full-time educational opportunities … to economic security in retirement … to adequate health service [and an] obligation to work in some socially necessary service.”

    The conference statement on the political bases of a just and durable peace proclaimed that the first post-war duty of the church “will be the achievement of a just peace settlement with due regard to the welfare of all the nations, the vanquished, the overrun and the victors alike.” In contrast to the blockade of Germany after World War I, it called for immediate provision of food and other essentials after the war for every country needing them. “We must get back,” explained Methodist Bishop Francis J. McConnell, “to a stable material prosperity not only to strengthen men’s bodies but to strengthen their souls.”

    Politically, the conference’s most important assertion was that many duties now performed by local and national governments “can now be effectively carried out only by international authority.” Individual nations, it declared, must give up their armed forces “except for preservation of domestic order” and allow the world to be policed by an international army and navy. This League-of-Nations-with-teeth would also have “the power of final judgment in controversies between nations . . the regulation of international trade and population movements among nations.”

    The ultimate goal: “a duly constituted world government of delegated powers: an international legislative body, an international court with adequate jurisdiction, international-administrative bodies with necessary powers, and adequate international police forces and provision for enforcing its worldwide economic authority.”

    TIME – March 16, 1942
    Time – March 16, 1942

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  186. Russ says:

    “”I don’t think it’s ever not been okay to be white,” laughed U of T student Daniel Rebelo while walking to class.”

    At least one frog has yet to notice that the water has begun to boil.

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  187. Logan says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Christians alive at this moment have a real mess on their hands. The guiding principles and credos preached and practised by "respectable" denominations seem to match up nearly perfectly with those put forward by the Rockefeller Foundation, Fabian Society and London School of Economics over the last century. Why would that be? Why would Mainline Christianity find itself more and more in harmony with the "managerial elite" as the 20th century rolled along? Did all these secular institutions learn to be more Christ-like or did the churches learn to get along with Caesar now that his representatives seem so nice and well-intentioned?

    Why is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel? Mainline Protestants have to get out the tweezers now and separate the Christian mustard seeds from the Fabian Society and Rockefeller Foundation mouse droppings.

    vWhy is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel?

    That money is irrelevant in today’s world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.

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    That money is irrelevant in today’s world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    I deliberately mentioned those old companies to point to the vintage and provenance of these tax exempt foundation that have ended up taking respectable Christianity and "molding it nearer to the heart's desire" of Fabianism; to use the motto on their stained glass window:

    http://www.lse.ac.uk/alumni/LSEConnect/LSEMagazine/pdf/summer2006/FabianWindow.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Window

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.

    I wouldn't agree with this reading of things at all. Take a look at the institutions built on the fortunes I mentioned and you'll find the central pillars of policymaking and consensus building. Start with something like the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and fan out from there.

    So far people with newer fortunes, like Bill & Melinda Gates, have gone with the flow already set by the foundations I mentioned. Ted Turner didn't slide into that way of doing things and seems to have been ejected from the centre of the power whirlpool because of it.
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  188. Logan says:
    @Michaeloh59

    Recently went with my wife to a Christian movie.
     
    A Christian movie? Or a churchian movie.

    It self-identified as Christian.

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  189. Logan says:
    @Ganderson
    We’re at the point where nearly all negative interactions between a white person and a black person will be defined as white racism.

    We’ve been there for a long time, at least in the sense that white racism is the default assumption.

    We are perhaps approaching a situation where that defaul cannot be overridden even by evidence to the contrary.

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  190. Logan says:
    @Bitfu
    I looked at some other stories by the 'journalist', Mark Carcasole--and this headline stands out:

    Ontario woman who escaped Las Vegas shooting finds healing after lost purse returned

    That's just a funny headline...There's just so much wrong with it. Now, people who aren't even victims are being exalted. The Ontario woman--who was not injured--not only found her purse, but she found healing too! From an injury she never received. But, let's not stop there---let's write a newspaper account of a woman who was not injured, but lost her purse and had it returned!

    You think we're done here? Hell no, were not done here. We still need to heap praise upon a woman who 'found healing' from an injury she did not suffer after her purse was returned. So let's do this.

    Now, stop for a moment and ponder: What would have happened to this poor woman had her purse not been returned? Do you understand her pain she was experiencing from injuries she did not suffer while enduring the guilt of not having suffered from them? I don't think you do.

    Sure, 59 innocents were gunned down. Of course it was a horrific night for everyone at the concert. But this woman lost her purse too. And don't be a jerk--it wasn't just her purse, it had her iPhone too. And a lot of other stuff. And she lost it. Just like that. Gone.

    But, like some physical manifestation of Amazing Grace, it was lost, and now it's been found. Through it all, yes, she experienced the worst of humanity--that shooter guy. But she also experienced the best--the amazing hero who returned her purse (and her iPhone)!

    We are witness to an amazing triumph of the human spirit.

    Kind of a stupid story, to be sure.

    However, I assume being present at such an event is pretty darn traumatic, whether you personally escape injury or not.

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  191. Logan says:
    @Lurker

    immediately notified Campus Police, who have also notified Toronto Police
     
    http://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/41/67107277.jpg

    Perhaps the most idiotic line in the movie. Not in the book, BTW.

    What you do “against such reckless hate” is to resist and if necessary destroy those who practice it?

    Duhh!

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  192. Logan says:
    @AM

    But being for all nations and people means you have to change your religion and they will change it also to suit those other people who it was never really intended for. Look at the differences in how people believe in Jesus around the world for example or how the Africans made their own of it.
     
    Yes, that's fine. The point is that Christ offered a universal moral law: the 10 Commandments in the spirit of loving your neighbor as yourself. But it says nothing about the way you live the rest of your life.

    If we could get every there, the world might be a pretty nice place, with Christianity preserving the best of each culture. It did in every European sub-culture it touched. German's love of nature and forests - the English choir and love their language, the Italian Renaissance. The list goes on and on.

    God loves diversity. Christianity preserves it and history, too. It's part of the reason I'm against globalism and open borders. We turn into aweful neutered mush of gray, with no history and no hope.

    Then before you know it Jesus is a mere prophet and according to you not even a good one because we don’t want to offend anyone by saying anything else do we?
     
    This has already happened and more than once. It was the Arian heresy, which got folded into the mother of all heresies, Islam. Protestants of different branches tend to revisit this.

    It is not globalism that makes Jesus a mere prophet - it's a common problem almost as old as Christianity because I think we don't want to deal with such massive issue as God walking the earth.

    One of the Popes in the early 20th century is on record as say that modernism is the sum of all heresies. In this case globalism just fold in an old but good one.

    How’s that going around to other nations thing working out for you anyway? I’m with the Amish even if they aren’t with me.
     
    Two of the fastest growing Christian populations are China and Africa. On the whole, not bad, I'd say.


    And when was the last time you saw an Amish terrorist? I'd say they past the good neighbor test, anyway. Most Christians do, even the ones that shred up the theology to almost unrecognizable.

    All those Catholics mostly came for economic reasons the same as a lot of other people today come here and a lot of them have nothing to do with Jesus at all, but we have to change in order to accommodate them
     
    You didn't have to accommodate them and for most of American history, they weren't. But they did fit into the Protestant model because the moral framework was the same. They turned into just another denomination at that point.

    The US worked because it used the Protestant framework and the first big wave of others mostly fit. Today is a nightmare.

    Would the Hebrew slaves have elitist thoughts for wanting their own land? Did they ask the rest of the world to join them? Did God tell Moses to rescue every slave on the planet or his own people?
     
    Christianity, when lived and understood properly forms concentric rings of priority. God, family, friends, community, country, and world, in that order. I can't help the kid in Africa if got my hands full with my family, friends, and community and it's okay. The globalist feel good version inverts that order and thereby perverts Christianity.

    I don't need to be God's chosen or whatever to love my history, my family, myself and want to preserve it. My heritage is best preserved here, just like someone from Africa is ultimately best preserved in their own country. God creates the nations and globalism in that context, is the Tower of Babel project again.

    FWIW, Arianism didn’t turn Jesus into “just another prophet.”

    It said he was not quite God, which is a pretty darn big step above just another prophet.

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    One of the problems with Arianism is that it never had a really fixed theology, having come out of as much a partisan spirit as anything else. Newman's History is a good reference on them.

    Homoiousion is more than "just another prophet"-- but what does it mean exactly?
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  193. @JerryC
    "Racialized people" - nice Freudian slip.

    I did nor know the meaning of “racialized people” … and now after Dr. Freud has been called in, I still don’t know … and I suspect that the phrase means nothing.

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  194. AndrewR says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Actually, the white percentage was even higher. Wikipedia says, "Altogether, the areas populated by people of European descent comprised 36% of the world's population in 1900."

    From
    Graziella Caselli; Gillaume Wunsch & Jacques Vallin (2005). Demography: Analysis and Synthesis, Four Volume Set: A Treatise in Population. Academic Press via Google Books. p. 42.

    Right. Although that part was ambiguous. Some of the people in “areas populated by people of European descent” have always been of non-European descent.

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  195. AndrewR says:
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    Because white people are and have been for nearly all of human history – and certainly modern history – a tiny minority of humanity
     
    This is obscenely false. Europe alone had 25% of the entire human population in 1900. Hardly a "tiny minority" especially given that whites ran almost the entire world then as well. Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous exaggerations. I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.

    I had meant to delete that last sentence for sounding too mean, but the glitch struck.

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  196. @Canadian Observer
    “Racialized” is now a popular term being bandied about both in government and SJW circles. I think the term was originally used by the Ontario Human Rights Commission to describe litigants who have not been tainted by the Original Sin of Whiteness. The body which governs our lawyers – the Law Society of Upper Canada – introduced the term “racialized lawyer” a few years ago to describe all non-white lawyers practicing in this province. That regulatory body is run completely by cat ladies and SJWs. And I think those women are mostly Margaret Atwood types, sprinkled in with a few East Indians and token blacks.

    Racialized sounds and looks much like the word “radicalized”. To me, it strikes me as a term which describes something terrible that happened to an individual at birth.

    “What happened to you, oh poor coloured woman?”… “I was racialized at birth by male white corporate oppression!”.

    Racialized sounds and looks much like the word “radicalized”. — Canadian Observer

    To me, ‘radocalized’ is a term used to describe a young 2nd generation Moslem, in say Denmark or Minnesota. who becomes convinced to join a jihadi militant group and go off to Syria to fight and/or die for ISIS. Canadian Observer takes the term in some other (specifically Canadian) context, but that’s how it sounds to me. So, I didn’t get it before reading Canadian Observer’s comment, but I guess ‘racialized’ would be some white youngster who has not thought of himself or herself as ‘white’ until recently being ‘racialized’ … and then might go off somewhere to join a WN group somewhere. Anyway, that’s how I’ll understand the term until that understanding ceases to work for me.

    Thanks, Canadian Observer!

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  197. @Logan
    vWhy is modern Christianity eerily in sync with the worldview of those nice folks sitting on giant piles of money left over from the glory days of the Standard Oil Company, Ford Motor Company and US Steel?

    That money is irrelevant in today's world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.

    That money is irrelevant in today’s world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    I deliberately mentioned those old companies to point to the vintage and provenance of these tax exempt foundation that have ended up taking respectable Christianity and “molding it nearer to the heart’s desire” of Fabianism; to use the motto on their stained glass window:

    http://www.lse.ac.uk/alumni/LSEConnect/LSEMagazine/pdf/summer2006/FabianWindow.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Window

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.

    I wouldn’t agree with this reading of things at all. Take a look at the institutions built on the fortunes I mentioned and you’ll find the central pillars of policymaking and consensus building. Start with something like the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and fan out from there.

    So far people with newer fortunes, like Bill & Melinda Gates, have gone with the flow already set by the foundations I mentioned. Ted Turner didn’t slide into that way of doing things and seems to have been ejected from the centre of the power whirlpool because of it.

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    I think you are drastically overstating the importance of the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations.

    What Google and Facebook do is almost infinitely more important than anything them might do.

    YMMV
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  198. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Foreign Expert
    Some fiendishly clever person should have a bunch of buttons printed up reading just “OK” (white on black) and hand them out for free. How can OK be offensive?

    The Coca-Cola company tried that during the 90s, to appeal to the Gen-X crowd.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Soda

    It was a huge failure then, but who knows? Maybe it’s old enough now to seem retro.

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  199. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Corvinus
    "There was no racial tension at the University of Toronto when all of the students were White, therefore it is the presence of minorities, not these posters, which is creating and raising tensions on the campus."

    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend. As a result, there was a movement to ensure that non-whites would be able to secure an education here.

    Now, the better meme is that "it's ok to be a person". That's something that normies get on board with.

    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend.

    All whites? WTF are you talking about?

    Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?

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    "Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?"

    It's ok to be white, or black, or yellow, or red. People come in different colors. The Coalition of the Right and Left Fringe groups play the identity politics card. The normies focus on human beings.
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  200. @Raymondson
    The city council in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan recently put up a few billboards slamming "White Privilege" . This in a small city (295,000) that is now 66% White, having come down from 80% just 10 years ago. African immigration has increased from less than 1% to 3.5% and all Asian pop. is at 10% (up from around 5%) in that same 10 years.Caribbean imigration took off around 2008,as did South American.The Canadian Indians & Metis make up 12%. As the city becomes more "diversified" Whites from European/American stock (like me) are seen as a liability. The city police recently put on a "Meet The Muslims" event,and their spokeman was a Muslim officer to the force. Years ago a popular canoe race on the South Saskatchewan River(that winds itself through the city)that celebrated Louis Riel and the early pioneers, was scrapped in favour for a Dragon Boat Festival instead. I expect the Pioneer Days weekend in the Summer to someday be replaced by something much more "diverse". The city's politics are mixed - Conservative,Liberal and NDP (Marxist socialism) but the province is 50% Conservative and those in small towns and farms generally hate Trudeau . The new federal Conservative Party leader is from Saskatchewan but he may prove to be a weakling against Trudeau. Most Canadian "conservatives" are too soft....

    David Frum’s politics are conservative in Canada.

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  201. Logan says:
    @Cagey Beast
    That money is irrelevant in today’s world. These are all second or third rank corporations today,with zero cultural power.

    I deliberately mentioned those old companies to point to the vintage and provenance of these tax exempt foundation that have ended up taking respectable Christianity and "molding it nearer to the heart's desire" of Fabianism; to use the motto on their stained glass window:

    http://www.lse.ac.uk/alumni/LSEConnect/LSEMagazine/pdf/summer2006/FabianWindow.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Window

    Why talk about organizations over 100 years old and with no real influence? Actual cultural/political power belongs to a whole different group of organizations, most of them little if any more than 30 years old.

    I wouldn't agree with this reading of things at all. Take a look at the institutions built on the fortunes I mentioned and you'll find the central pillars of policymaking and consensus building. Start with something like the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and fan out from there.

    So far people with newer fortunes, like Bill & Melinda Gates, have gone with the flow already set by the foundations I mentioned. Ted Turner didn't slide into that way of doing things and seems to have been ejected from the centre of the power whirlpool because of it.

    I think you are drastically overstating the importance of the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations.

    What Google and Facebook do is almost infinitely more important than anything them might do.

    YMMV

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  202. @AndrewR
    a) no, it's not (although Ron Unz is more tolerant of white nationalism than 99.9% of Jews are)

    b) there is no evidence I am aware of that Sailer is a WN; he seems to have a preference for people ethnically similar to himself, but that's not the same as white nationalism

    c) even from a strictly WN perspective, any mass shooting is relevant discussion material; incidents of mass shootings by "whites" are used (understandably) to refute many WN arguments

    Andrew, yes it. It makes you feel better to pretend otherwise, because you prefer to not think of yourself as a WN.

    (I’m talking about Steve’s site here, not Unz.com generally.)

    Steve makes feints towards “citizenism” sometimes, but his posts show that his attitude toward his fellow pre1968 black citizens doesn’t differ much from his attitude towards recent illegal mexican arrivals. Contempt.

    And sometimes this site will talk about the importance of IQ (which is not a real WN thing), but that faded quite a bit when Steve’s kid started applying for college admissions, and led to a ridiculous number of posts about how Asians didn’t really have high IQ because standardized tests are biased/ Asians cheat/ SAT prep is unfair/ whinewhinewhine.

    (There is the small complicating factor that Steve suspects, or he used to, that his biological mom is Jewish. But he hardly ever mentions that any more, for obvious reasons.)

    I’ve been reading iSteve for nearing 2 decades. It is entertaining. Sometimes enlightening. And some of the commenters are the most insightful you’ll find in a WN site. But i don’t delude myself about the nature of this site. Neither should you.

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    I don't recall ever posting on here, let alone discussing with you personally, what I prefer to identify as. I generally try to avoid labels since labels tend to restrict thinking. I'm not utterly obsessed with race like many WNs are but many WN ideas often seem sensible to me. I think we could learn a lot from the Japanese when it comes to immigration, citizenship, ethnicity, etc. Japan is run by and for the Japanese without taking that to excessive extremes like they did during the sakoku period (or the first third of the Shōwa period, for that matter).
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  203. anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer
    @Truth
    His wife told him to return the poor guy's weed whacker.

    Another tragic case of white-coat on white-coat violence.

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  204. @AM

    ’m thinking of the typical middle-class whites (what’s left of them) who own the hardware store, practice medicine, work as plumbers, own restaurants, and so on all over what used to be the U.S.A., from Omaha and Spokane to Jacksonville and Little Rock.
     
    There's still struggle with a category error here. Owning a retail store or restaurant or plumbing is middle class work. They do not require degrees. Practicing medicine is professional work and was taken over by the upper classes just as soon they didn't want butchers to compete with surgeons for their business by enforcing the college degree.

    You've kind of got a main street USA idea that hasn't existed since the 1970's for sure. Lots of low class people hanging around even back then, too.

    The fat bastards who own and operate the local electrical contractor, the chain of car washes, the accountant’s or upholsterer’s joint; those who sit round drinking beer, watching football, and swearing up and down about how much they hate high taxes and love the marines – these are the people who could make an impact if they really meant any of the things they say
     
    I'm not sure that there are really that many of these people around. You can't actually own a functional electrical contracting business, accounting, or upholster and drink beer all day. I have encountered a few old farts that vaguely fit the description, but it's not like they're super thick on the ground, in my experience.

    Most small business owners with a significant net worth will be needing to skip a lot of football games to get the paper work done.

    Great title for a book that's already been taken: You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.

    In no particular order, and doubtless omitting some of the nonsense you’re writing vis-a-vis some axe or other you wish to grind with me:

    – Yes, when anyone alludes to another’s “drinking all day” it’s accepted by long convention that the speaker means the referent literally pours liquid down his throat incessantly, and not that, for instance, he may spend his Saturdays lazing about and swilling beer. Contextual clues that the speaker is placing the “drinking all day” with the time the referent spends speaking with others and pontificating or complaining help to establish this usage.

    - Asia has had a vastly larger population than Europe at least since the industrial revolution, and many very credible scholars present compelling evidence this has been the case for all of human history. At best, yes, it is true Europeans may at one time possibly approached twenty-five per cent of the global human population. While this amount may not be best described as a “tiny minority” (a point I concede for the sake of argument and because of its own imprecision), it is decidedly not any kind of overwhelming percentage, either: it is a very solidly a minority, and, history aside, my more important point that we are now a tiny and rapidly shrinking minority stands.

    I come here to get away from womanly leftist hysteria and disconnect from reality.

    Thou sayest.

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  205. @Logan
    I think you are drastically overstating the importance of the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations.

    What Google and Facebook do is almost infinitely more important than anything them might do.

    YMMV

    What Google and Facebook do is a direct result of work done in the past by those foundations.

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  206. AndrewR says:
    @Coloring person
    Andrew, yes it. It makes you feel better to pretend otherwise, because you prefer to not think of yourself as a WN.

    (I'm talking about Steve's site here, not Unz.com generally.)

    Steve makes feints towards "citizenism" sometimes, but his posts show that his attitude toward his fellow pre1968 black citizens doesn't differ much from his attitude towards recent illegal mexican arrivals. Contempt.

    And sometimes this site will talk about the importance of IQ (which is not a real WN thing), but that faded quite a bit when Steve's kid started applying for college admissions, and led to a ridiculous number of posts about how Asians didn't really have high IQ because standardized tests are biased/ Asians cheat/ SAT prep is unfair/ whinewhinewhine.

    (There is the small complicating factor that Steve suspects, or he used to, that his biological mom is Jewish. But he hardly ever mentions that any more, for obvious reasons.)

    I've been reading iSteve for nearing 2 decades. It is entertaining. Sometimes enlightening. And some of the commenters are the most insightful you'll find in a WN site. But i don't delude myself about the nature of this site. Neither should you.

    I don’t recall ever posting on here, let alone discussing with you personally, what I prefer to identify as. I generally try to avoid labels since labels tend to restrict thinking. I’m not utterly obsessed with race like many WNs are but many WN ideas often seem sensible to me. I think we could learn a lot from the Japanese when it comes to immigration, citizenship, ethnicity, etc. Japan is run by and for the Japanese without taking that to excessive extremes like they did during the sakoku period (or the first third of the Shōwa period, for that matter).

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  207. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    Of course there was racial tension at this university when there were whites, because they did not want non-whites to attend.
     
    All whites? WTF are you talking about?

    Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?

    “Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?”

    It’s ok to be white, or black, or yellow, or red. People come in different colors. The Coalition of the Right and Left Fringe groups play the identity politics card. The normies focus on human beings.

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    If I asked you if it's OK to be Black would you have simply answered "Yes!" or "Of course!"? Or would you have also felt obligated to add it's OK to be White?
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  208. @candid_observer
    The real question is going to be what is done to a student who is finally caught, or simply admits to, putting up these posters.

    How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?

    “How are they going to find him guilty of some supposed transgression, and punish him, without looking morally obscene to everybody but the loons in academe?”

    They don’t care how they look as long as the institutional financing keeps flowing in.

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  209. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Maj. Kong
    I doubt there will be any serious backlash outside of Quebec, that Sikh NDP leader is going over like a lead balloon there. Their worse economy has shifted the foreigners to the more prosperous GTA and Western Provinces.

    Preston Manning smothered Western Independence in the cradle, now it is demographically impossible short of Yugoslav level violence. Has anyone suggested a better name than "Western Canada" ?

    There’s always Harold Covington’s idea, although for it to work, the US would have to be at the point of disintegration anyway.

    Another would be to swap Minnesota for the lower western provinces, which would probably be popular with the residents of both.

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  210. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Logan
    FWIW, Arianism didn't turn Jesus into "just another prophet."

    It said he was not quite God, which is a pretty darn big step above just another prophet.

    One of the problems with Arianism is that it never had a really fixed theology, having come out of as much a partisan spirit as anything else. Newman’s History is a good reference on them.

    Homoiousion is more than “just another prophet”– but what does it mean exactly?

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  211. Lagertha says:
    @AM

    then Hillsdale College and Liberty University would have endowments, ratios of applications to admissions, and so forth to make Harvard University and Stanford University weep within thirty years. It will, of course, never happen: Bread & circuses; beer and porn – the rhyming of history continues.
     
    Umm.. the white people you're thinking of don't go to college or not to the arty farty places like Hillsdale. They don't what Hillsdale university is and why it's special. They know that state u is cheap and nearby and welding might be a good choice.

    Your complaint seems to be to be about the collapse of the white elites who should be funding such things. About the white elites who have the education, should know better, and are the traditional protectors of high culture for the rest of society. It's them who could cause that academic collapse and it's no where in sight yet.

    The lower middle class US conservatives are a blessing on the whole. They could be all out for free stuff from the government rather than firmly committed to just steady jobs, cheap stuff and living their lives. Communism and socialism take hold in places where that same class of people gets into their heads that government can us give them stuff and life will be perfect. Their resistance, in the face of cultural collapse, to date has kept us pretty whole.

    You are so correct, AM. I feel very protective of lower middle class Americans because I spent so much time with them, oddly enough, through my sons’ sports in the last 12 years. My sons pursued sport in a regional and national level, so, we drove/flew a lot…and got to know families all over. I saw “the carnage” that Trump spoke about in his Inaugural Address.

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  212. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    "Anyway answer the question directly, Corvinus: Is it okay to be white?"

    It's ok to be white, or black, or yellow, or red. People come in different colors. The Coalition of the Right and Left Fringe groups play the identity politics card. The normies focus on human beings.

    If I asked you if it’s OK to be Black would you have simply answered “Yes!” or “Of course!”? Or would you have also felt obligated to add it’s OK to be White?

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    "If I asked you if it’s OK to be Black would you have simply answered “Yes!” or “Of course!”? Or would you have also felt obligated to add it’s OK to be White?"

    I would have given the same response. Here, let me say it again--It’s ok to be white, or black, or yellow, or red. People come in different colors. The Coalition of the Right and Left Fringe groups play the identity politics card. The normies focus on human beings.
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  213. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous
    If I asked you if it's OK to be Black would you have simply answered "Yes!" or "Of course!"? Or would you have also felt obligated to add it's OK to be White?

    “If I asked you if it’s OK to be Black would you have simply answered “Yes!” or “Of course!”? Or would you have also felt obligated to add it’s OK to be White?”

    I would have given the same response. Here, let me say it again–It’s ok to be white, or black, or yellow, or red. People come in different colors. The Coalition of the Right and Left Fringe groups play the identity politics card. The normies focus on human beings.

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  214. They caught the guys putting up the posters in Toronto. Turns out it was a bunch of neo Nazis and WN

    https://torontoist.com/2017/11/revealed-white-supremacists-behind-alt-right-posters-around-city/

    The article also has the details in the 4chan thread that started it all:

    “In the 4chan thread, one user posts that “the idea is to hide your fucking powerlevel and insist that it’s just an innocent ‘it’s okay to be white.’ If people start being Nazis and supporting the posters, then liberals can just dismiss it all with dogwhistles and moderates won’t be convinced.”

    This is basically the WN equivent of a hate hoax. Have Nazis put up posters that are putatively not offensive, then reap the benefits and sympathy when anti Nazis get angry.

    Steve sailer is actually a key part of this type of operation, by “whitewashing” the motivation and pretending this is about antinazis overreacting.

    Which is why Steve will never update the post at the top of this comment thread with the facts. Because that’s how WN sympathizers work.

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