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From Berkeleyside:

Eric Clanton takes 3-year probation deal in Berkeley rally bike lock assault case

By Emilie Raguso Aug. 8, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

A former East Bay college philosophy professor who was charged with four counts of felony assault with a deadly weapon, causing great bodily injury, has taken a deal resulting in three years of probation for an attack at a Berkeley protest last year, court records reveal.

Eric Clanton had been linked by police to violent assaults with a metal bike lock during a “free speech” rally in Berkeley on April 15, 2017. Before his arrest, Clanton had been “outed” online, on the website 4chan, as someone who used a bike lock to strike a man in the head. The assault was captured in a video clip (below) that drew widespread attention and anger after it was posted on YouTube.

Wednesday, Clanton was supposed to have had his preliminary hearing, where a judge decides whether there’s enough evidence in a case for it to move ahead to trial. Instead, there was no hearing, and information about Clanton’s plea deal became available online.

According to Alameda County Superior Court records, Clanton entered a “no contest” plea Wednesday to one misdemeanor battery charge. The felony charges against him were dismissed, and an allegation that he had caused serious bodily injury was stricken. A misdemeanor charge that Clanton wore a mask during the commission of the crime also was dropped.

Clanton’s three years of probation begin Wednesday and last through Aug. 8, 2021.

Police said, previously, that Clanton attacked at least three people with a metal U-lock during the April 15 rally in and around Civic Center Park. Court papers later revealed that Clanton struck at least seven people in the head, according to authorities. One person received a head laceration that required five staples to fix. Another was uninjured but had a piece of a helmet broken off. A third was struck across the neck and back, police wrote.

I guess I’m just some kind of nutjob extremist, but shouldn’t we have rule of law rather than “Who? Whom?” Justice where a designated Who with the right (left) politics gets to hit unpopular Whoms with the wrong (right) politics over the head with his bike lock?

Some people on Twitter have suggested that maybe Prof. Clanton got off so lightly because he might have snitched on some of his fellow Antifa masked marauders. I don’t see any evidence for that yet, but I like the idea of that rumor spreading among Antifa types.

Is there a federal civil rights case here? It’s not uncommon for the feds to toss out the Constitution’s double jeopardy prohibition and retry unpopular defendants who got acquitted, such as the cops in the Rodney King case.

If you hit 7 people on the head with a bike lock and none of them dies, you are lucky, not virtuous. Sounds like attempted murder under the “depraved indifference” concept:

“To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant’s conduct must be ‘so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.”

https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/

 
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  1. Ibound1 says:

    Attempted murder of a Trump supporter is not a crime in California I guess. Actually killing a “Becky” walking down the street in California is not a crime either, if you are an illegal doing the killing. What is a crime in California? Plastic straws. Fur coats. Happy Meals. Using the wrong pronoun. All crimes.

  2. Anon[622] • Disclaimer says:

    There was an incident where a You Tuber was recently assaulted – sucker punched – at a convention in Indiana by a “punch Nazis” type because he posted a video disagreeing with Anita Sarkessian, internet feminist. The police have declined to do anything about it, despite the guy’s identity and picture becoming public and multiple eyewitnesses being present. Oh, and a guy who works for Chris Hardwick’s old publication, the Nerdist, publicly supported the attack (“I’m just glad a Nazi got punched” paraphrasing), apparently with no consequences!

    http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/08/02/gencon-begins-silencing-people-who-bring-up-the-quarterings-attacker/

    The left is trying to legitimize violence against their opposition as a tactic to win power and shut down dissent.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @MBlanc46
  3. Whatta you know, a real case of white privilege.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @SMK
  4. This IS Berkeley, after all. Now throw away a bum’s cardboard box, OTOH, and you’ll get charged with breaking and entering, vandalism, and home invasion, theft, and failure to recycle.

  5. Arclight says:

    I hope some attorney has reached out to those assaulted and is ready with a civil suit.

  6. Robert, Lord Crichton of Sanquhar, lost an eye when sparring with a fencing master of the name of Turner. When at the French Court some time after, the King, Henry IV, asked how he came by the injury and on being informed, inquired, “Does the fellow live?”

    Eric Clanton hurt a number of people and they know who he is. Does he have anything to fear?

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  7. CCZ says:

    Compared to the new regime in Philadelphia, a stiff sentence.

    New social justice, end “mass incarceration,” former public defender, District Attorney policies:

    “When ADAs give probation charges they are to opt for the lower end of the possible spectrum. Assuming that a defendant is violation free for 12 months, any remaining probation is simply excess baggage requiring unnecessary expenditure of funds for supervision. When a person does break the rules of probation, minor infractions such as missing a PO meeting are not to be punished with jail time or probation revocation.”

    “Prosecutors must now calculate the amount of money a sentence would cost before recommending it to a judge, and argue why the cost is justified.”

    “Philadelphia’s New Top Prosecutor Is Rolling Out Wild, Unprecedented Criminal Justice Reforms.”

    • Replies: @Carol
  8. I’m having trouble even processing this. GBH is kind. It could have been Assault with Intent to Murder. A misdemeanor plea? Somebody please drop off a few dozen rabid pitbulls in this commie’s house. The prosecutor I mean. Ex-prof commie will undoubtedly find his own reward.

  9. Anon87 says:

    At this point, if the legal system is going to lay down, just let both sides go at it in the streets and get it over with. Or will the left go back home once Trump leaves office?

    Also, I hope Eric gets a taste of his own medicine.

  10. @Ibound1

    Depends where in California. Getting an Alameda county jury to convict this guy is a very steep hill to climb. So he negotiated a sweet deal. Prosecutors don’t have time to waste on trying losing cases, especially in Alameda county.

  11. Lot says:

    The feds can press federal charges and jail him for 10 years or more for denying civil rights with violence.

    The perp was part of a far left terrorist group house and arrested with piles of weapons and drugs.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/antifa-on-trial-how-a-college-professor-joined-the-lefts-radical-ranks-630213/amp/

  12. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    A shame. Discovery would have been VEEEERY interesting. Texts and emails, depositions of any associates, maybe a glimpse into the inner workings of Antifa. Possible missed opportunity for law enforcement and the country.

  13. @Lot

    The light sentence only makes sense if one of two things is going to occur.

    1. The Feds do intend to pursue it. It is not unusual for a state to cut a sweet deal with a defendant if they have been advised by the Feds that they will also file charges.

    2. He is a snitch. But a snitch only get a deal this good if he helps bring down someone with much more culpability than the snitch or he helps take down a criminal organization.

    Absent one or the other, this is a legitimate miscarriage of justice. The type that should cause riots in the streets.

    • Replies: @Anon
  14. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    >trying
    It’s here, it’s legitimized. What opposes this? Where is Sessions?
    There are some victories but there appears to be geographical areas where you should not expect to have any physical safety or property rights.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
  15. Instead of “Radical Left”, which suggests Vietnam war protestors or Pacifica listeners, we should make sure to refer to these Antifa and Punch-a-Nazi types as the “Violent Left”. It’s very visual, accurate, and should sink in better with the nice lady crowd.

    • Agree: sayless, Byrresheim
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  16. @Arclight

    Against the city of Berkeley? I can’t imagine Prof. Clanton has many assets to plunder.

  17. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    Clanton was a part time community college instructor. He was fired after the riot. I doubt he owns a home. His car’s probably worth about $8,000 and he probably owes $6,000 on it.

    No money.

    Alameda county DA is one of the most pro criminal in the country and has been since the OFEEs were brought to work in the shipyards during WW2.

    OFEE Obsolute Farm Equipment

    • Replies: @Seamus
  18. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    It’s been more than a year. The feds will never file violation of civil rights charges when the victim is White.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  19. istevefan says:

    I think the fact that he is a highly-educated college professor should have played a part in a harsh sentence. Sometimes they go easy on a guy with a low IQ who supposedly didn’t know what he was doing. But this guy is a professor. If we are getting to the point where people like him are randomly clocking people, we’re in trouble. An example should have been made of this guy.

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
    , @WR
    , @Anon
  20. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    It’s Alameda County DA office.
    N California. Nuff said

  21. @Lot

    Anarcho-tyranny data point #23765

    Am skeptical about justice being served here. Clanton will presumably have DEEP financial backing to fend off future lawsuits. Not fer nothin but the Institutional Left-in the shadows behind the street thugs (ACLU, SPLC, BAMN) have access to Siicone Valley & even some Wall St money. They solicit it by saying they are opposing “literally Hitler”

    • Replies: @CCZ
  22. @Ibound1

    Attempted murder of a Trump supporter is not a crime in California I guess.

    Trump needs to get on this pronto–and harp on it.

    If public officials want to stop street violence, you prosecute the people responsible with maximum charges and put them in jail. But Democrat public officials do *not* want to stop *leftist* violence.

    Tweet out the video of this Clanton POS whacking the kid’s head open while he’s just standing there arguing.

    Trump should add this pitch to the illegal immigration issue and try to nationalize this coming election. Rule of law. The Democrats do not believe in it.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    , @AndrewR
    , @TheBoom
  23. Jeff? Are you there? Separate sovereigns? Hello?

  24. Lagertha says:
    @Angular momentum

    White, male, Christian…gets no jail time for beating people (who could have died, btw) with a bike lock. Using chains and locks to flog people, like in the 19th century, whatever their race, should have been embarrassing enough for these cucked, scardy-cat judges to not let him off. Kharma has a big reach. Kharma always catches up.

  25. Carol says:
    @CCZ

    So that’s where all this “jail diversion” talk is going, eh?

    Coming soon, to a neighborhood near you!

  26. anonymous[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Please think carefully before endorsing a system in which a person can be prosecuted repeatedly for the same act by multiple layers of government.

    Double jeopardy is unconstitutional, notwithstanding what 5/9 of an unelected panel of law priests may have said.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
  27. @Chief Seattle

    …refer to these Antifa and Punch-a-Nazi types as the “Violent Left”. It’s very visual, accurate, and should sink in better with the nice lady crowd.

    This is excellent, Chief. (I’m proud to be part of your council.)

  28. @Ibound1

    Attempted murder of a Trump supporter is not a crime in California I guess.

    The other thing of note with this–classic “separate nations”.

    Different race, religion, language, values or culture are more than enough. Being in a nation with people who don’t want a border is ludicrous on its face.

    But there’s no reason to be, nor can we be in the same nation with people who fundamentally do not think we are entitled to our rights–freedom of speech, freedom from unprovoked assault. I think there is this idea called “equal protection of the laws”. Even normies should be able to grasp that.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  29. AndrewR says:
    @J.Ross

    Sessions is too busy trying to promote civil forfeiture and keep weed illegal to protect Trump’s base from political violence.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mr. Anon
  30. AndrewR says:
    @anonymous

    We already have had that system for a long time. The cat probably isn’t going back in the bag, so we might as well make the most of the system that we can while we can.

  31. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    A civil tort lawsuit is also possible. Maybe the victims should set up a Go Fund Me for their legal bills for that. They’ll get nothing out of it, but the standard of proof is low in a civil suit, preponderance of the evidence, and they’ll run up legal bills for him.

    I don’t know if his criminal action law fees were free or if that pro bono guy bailed out when the cameramen left. Generally stuff like this gets financed by money from a mortgage taken out on a parent’s house, so the more legal fees, the better. He would have to go begging to mom or dad one more time.

    Another reason to continue to pursue it is that it cannot be assumed that his academic career is over, given the makeup of academic hiring committees at universities these days. Melissa Click got a new job. So the more his name can be gotten into the media the harder it will be for fellow travelers to hire him.

    One of the great tragedies resulting from the #metooing of Garrison Keillor is that the radio station killed all the links to his songs, including his reworking of Merle Haggard’s “Mama Tried,” which was written with guys like Eric Clanton in mind. But there is a somewhat satisfactory YouTube video of a live performance.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    , @Anon
  32. Anon[167] • Disclaimer says:

    This is the reason why more primitive societies with no governmental justice system used good old fashioned revenge to get justice instead.

  33. ChrisZ says:
    @AnotherDad

    A.D., Trump should *definitely* try to capitalize on this—and not only to expose the miscarriage of justice.

    There’s something about these lefties that makes them incapable of admitting wrongdoing—by themselves or by any member of their tribe. I was thinking of this while reading the Ezra Klein/Jeong thread earlier: Why do these guys insist on defending every action of the Left, no matter how outrageous or even immature? Whenever one of their own gets caught red-handed, every damn one of them has to chime in with a justification, excuse, or denunciation of the opposition. It’s an obsessive behavior with them.

    Now imagine Trump calling out this loser and his plea deal. I can easily imagine it triggering the whole Klein-Yglesias-Chait-Jeong axis* into serial 1,000-word think pieces on the validity of assault by bike lock. They wouldn’t be able to contain themselves, and their bubble would merely reinforce the inclination.

    But I don’t think it would sell to most people. Steve asked whether the Jeong fiasco was finally awakening people to the irrationality and amorality of our “opinion leaders.” Unfortunately, “normal” Americans might still be inclined to dismiss verbal abuse with their “sticks and stones” ethic. But they would (hopefully) have a different view of the reflexive justification of this bike lock guy.

    *Maybe hereafter known as the “Axis of Yglesias”?

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    Whom are you talking about? The president? He’s a retard. While he was campaigning, there were so many instances of leftists attacking Trump supporters outside Trump rallies, and retard Trump said nothing. But in his rallies he would encourage people to attack peaceful anti-Trump protesters. Donald Trump is an utter fool. He ain’t gonna do shit about this ever.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Lagertha
  35. Lagertha says:

    every one of the victims needs to sue Eric Clanton to the most ridiculous amount of money, evah. And, the university that employs him, is on the hook, too – sue his employer/Uni!!! White parents and white students will remember where they are being shunned, btw – goodbye alumni giving.

    Suing Clanton will galvanize whites this autumn! Haha! No one wants their kids to go to a Uni where a professor just took their child’s teeth out…or, like an ear…or where they are so hated, by the student body!!!! White children/students should all avoid Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/etc. It is hell to go to the top U’s for white kids, so why bother?- take the amazing “full ride” from state U. Graduate with no debt.

  36. Sapwood says:
    @anonymous

    You might want to read a bit deeper into development of the dual sovereignty doctrine if you think it was blessed by a bare majority of the Court.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  37. Lagertha says:
    @AndrewR

    He does not need to:

    He ain’t gonna do shit about this ever.

    All of us, on Unz, do not have the wealth of Trump; or of good and bad people we hate. We would not be commenting here, if we were wealthy enough to not care about anything, anything at all. We are living in a Globalist Plutocracy, and every effort is to squash all of us (and our children), all of us (smart or dumb, white or black) to the ground…to submission.

    Let me plug my last favorite book, “Submission”, by Houellebecq :) He gives up. France is over, as is England soon – they will all be like Brazil. It is a loss, as multiculturalism does not work.

  38. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChrisZ

    The Axis of Ezra?

  39. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    He’s been a colossal disappointment, which we cannot afford.

  40. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lagertha

    We’ll be lucky to end up like Brazil. I expect worse.

  41. @istevefan

    Sometimes they go easy on a guy with a low IQ who supposedly didn’t know what he was doing. But this guy is a professor.

    There are lots of dumb professors these days, affirmative action ensures that.

  42. Corvinus says:

    “I guess I’m just some kind of nutjob extremist, but shouldn’t we have rule of law rather than “Who? Whom?” Justice where a designated Who with the right (left) politics gets to hit unpopular Whoms with the wrong (right) politics over the head with his bike lock?”

    Yes, we ought to have a rule of law here. Three months probation for that attack? Completely unacceptable. Now, I’m just curious as to whether the bastard at 0:16 was actually identified by Eric Clanton by witnesses there. Even if he was not, I still proceed with the case if I am the district attorney, given the “outing” by a 4(charlie)chan and what police found. Let a judge or jury decide the matter.

  43. @Arclight

    I hope some attorney has reached out to those assaulted and is ready with a civil suit.

    I think I read it was a Nolo plea. So the prosecutor screwed the victims doubly. A guilty plea would make a civil suit easy, the Nolo plea means a civil trial must establish first the fact that Prof Commie committed the crime. And the trial would be held in Berkeley. Good luck with that.

    • Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon
  44. unit472 says:

    Probation can be a very strict. Some people prefer jail time just to be ‘free’ afterwards. I have no idea how strict Alameda County’s probation is but it can require drug and alcohol testing, limitations on travel ( without court permission), payments for your own supervision and community service work. Its not pleasant.

  45. Appalling, absolutely appalling.

    • Agree: donut
  46. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous

    I do too. That is why I am so horrified that so many passive, Democrats/liberals/progressives whatevah, who have been life-long friends, don’t see this Armageddon evolving. Of course, they are very, very white privileged, but still so naive. Haha, I freak them out bc of my open admission of being a Trump supporter (hard to hate a long-time friend). I scare them because they are Founding Stock – I’m an immigrant, yet I am more Pro-Amerikka, than they are. Educated Americans just don’t see the Deluge. They really are so lobotomized to think they and their adult children (and grands) will be just fine 20-50 years from now.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
  47. Mr. Anon says:
    @AndrewR

    Sessions is too busy trying to promote civil forfeiture and keep weed illegal to protect Trump’s base from political violence.

    I wouldn’t mind the weed thing so much, but – you are right – the civil asset forfeiture emphasis is very disappointing.

  48. What a brave man. Look closely at the video with your pause button ready. Fully masked, he launches his attack while using the guy in the gray sweatshirt as a screen. He never really steps out from behind him. And then retreats. This is just a cravenly, cowardly attack. No excuse for our justice system not to come down hard on this guy. What a loss of manly virtue this represents. At least have the balls to step out and risk getting as good as you give. Achilles hides his face in shame.

  49. @unit472

    Beats the living snot out of jail time, I guarantee you.

    What if one of his victims had actually died? Would this have made much difference? The radicals in Berkeley have been getting away with their antics for decades and the city itself is rife with quality of life crimes. Nobody cares about the law there, unless it’s a cudgel to beat others with.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  50. @Stan d Mute

    Commentator oddsbodkins above makes the point that this would be a hard case to try in Alameda County, and I think that is right, since I think there is a reasonable chance that at least one juror would be astute enough to get on the jury fully intending to acquit via jury nullification. The victim was a “Nazi” and deserved it, right? By contrast, it seems that for a civil trial, California requires 9 of 12. The video above does not clearly reveal the attacker, but if I am not mistaken, /pol/ fairly clearly identified him to the point where there was no option but to arrest him without an obvious miscarriage of justice. Even in the video above it is clear that the attacker strikes the victim without provocation or justification. I think that even in Berkeley, most people do not actually and uncritically endorse wanton violence. Even if some of them might signal that they do, when they are put on the line, I suspect there is a reasonable chance you can get 9 of 12.

    • Replies: @Corn
  51. I would like to hear what happens to his career prospects. Hopefully they are bad. IIRC Clanton was an assistant teacher at Diablo Valley College which means he was angling for a county job. An underachiever looking for a secure position albeit low paying. Now he has to park cars.

    • Replies: @Anon
  52. @Lagertha

    ‘…All of us, on Unz, do not have the wealth of Trump; or of good and bad people we hate. We would not be commenting here, if we were wealthy enough to not care about anything, anything at all…’

    Oh, I dunno about that. I’m sixty, so by the time the deluge hits, I’ll probably be gone or too ga-ga to even notice. I’m not rich, but my nest is modestly feathered, and I’m retired, so so as long as the real end-times don’t break out, it’s all a matter of indifference to me. I’ve moved myself to one of the remaining all-white corners of the country, so no problems there.

    It all still pisses me off.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  53. CCZ says:
    @CrunchybutRealistCon

    Deep pockets financing and “solidarity,” as in the failed Inauguration Day rioters prosecution:

    “That effort [prosecution of Inauguration Day rioters] saw the government facing an intensely coordinated grassroots political opposition network that made Washington the focus of a nationwide support campaign offering free lodging for defendants, legal coordination and other support.”

    Activists’ strategy included persuading defendants, sometimes over the objections of their lawyers, not to accept plea bargains. “Solidarity was what won the case,” said Sam Menefee-Libey, a member of the DC Legal Posse activist collective. “I hope that organizers and people on the left study it.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/06/trump-inauguration-protests-charges-dropped

  54. I suspect his mother, Hillary Rodham Clanton, had a hand in this.

    Especially if it was a certain brand of lock.

    • Replies: @CCZ
  55. @Anon

    They didn’t file those charges when Kate Steinle was murdered and her killer walked.

    The inability of some of you on here to realize we are in a warming civil war is staggering. I include Sailer in this.

    No one is coming to save you.

  56. To paraphrase one of their own war-cries:

    ‘THIS IS WHAT ANARCHO-TYRANNY LOOKS LIKE’.

  57. @anonymous

    Sorry dude, but these are the new rules. No time for Muh Prince Apples.

  58. @Anon

    I don’t know if his criminal action law fees were free or if that pro bono guy bailed out when the cameramen left. Generally stuff like this gets financed by money from a mortgage taken out on a parent’s house, so the more legal fees, the better.

    You don’t know how this stuff works, do you? These guys are not some kind of independent “rebels against the establishment” (though many of the lower level ones, like Clanton, like to believe that they are — leftists have a very high tolerance for cognitive dissidence). They are the plausibly-deniable, irregular shock troops of the J-Left establishment. As such, they always have lawyers.

    BAMN has an affiliate/ front group — a 501c3 called UEAA — United for Equality and Affirmative Action Legal Defense Fund.

    http://ueaa.net/about.htm

    It is financially supported by poverty-stricken fringe organizations like:
    The Kellogg Foundation
    The Ford Foundation
    The SPLC
    SEIU
    etc.

    And they never have trouble finding (((lawyers))).

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  59. CCZ says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Or maybe he is or thinks that he is a descendant of notorious Ike Clanton. “Ike was survived in death by many relatives whose descendants still occupy the southwest today.” [Wiki]

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  60. @unit472

    That is true for guys who are just as comfortable in prison as they are out on the street. There are several reasons.

    Paper time is straight time. If you are on paper for ten years, you are subject to the probation rules for the full ten years. You can serve 10 years in prison in Oklahoma in as little as 2 1/2 years.

    While supervised you must pass random UA’S, report regularly to your PO, and pay a $40 a month probation fee. Most habitual end up getting sent back during the supervised period.

    Even if you make it off supervised, you give up your 4th Amendment rights during the entire time you are on probation. This means constant harassment by the popo who know who you are and where you are at all times.

    So a lot of guys who are used to prison would rather just do straight time. This would not apply to a pointed headed commie professor. A guy like that would try to buddy up to the negroes. They would see it as weakness and he would be passed around among the negroes as a prison bitch.

    Prison is the most ruthless place on earth. Everyone in prison is or quickly becomes a race realist. A white guy who is willing to fight will take some lumps, but will be okay after a while. A white guy who is a coward or hates his own race and kowtows to the savages does not stand a chance.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  61. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sapwood

    Thanks, but you misunderstand. I don’t care what any 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 members of the Court may have “develop[ed].” If a legitimate, constitutional government is to exercise more power than that authorized, then the document must be amended in accordance with its terms. As was done to extend suffrage to women and to authorize — and in turn repeal — national governance of alcoholic beverages.

    I did after seeing your comment read a bit about the “dual sovereignty doctrine.” But I didn’t see any indication that it couldn’t just as well rationalize prosecutions by municipal and county governments, too. What can you tell us about that?

    • Replies: @Sapwood
    , @Autochthon
  62. t-gordon says:
    @Lagertha

    Thank you for this observation. Railing against the double standards, hypocrisies and outrages of time circa ‘now’ will eventually wear one out. Submit to the idea that Anarcho-Tyranny is here to stay, maintain your sanity and situational awareness and simply do your best to survive and enjoy the show. We haven’t been left with many choices, have we?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Anon
    , @Autochthon
  63. @CCZ

    Clantons shot it out with Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday at the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral in 1881.

  64. @stillCARealist

    If you hit 7 people on the head with a bike lock and none of them dies, you are lucky, not virtuous.

    Sounds like attempted murder under the “deprave indifference” concept:

    “To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant’s conduct must be ‘so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.”

    https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  65. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Forrestal

    I missed this Rolling Stone piece from May. Yeah, I know, Rolling Stone.

    Antifa on Trial: How a College Professor Joined the Left’s Radical Ranks

    Eric Clanton took to the streets with anti-fascists during a season of violence in Berkeley – and may spend the next decade in prison

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/antifa-on-trial-how-a-college-professor-joined-the-lefts-radical-ranks-630213/

    I haven’t read it, pretty long, but I don’t get the impression that he was thinking about snitching.

    I met Clanton in a conference room at his lawyer’s office in Oakland…. He immediately told me there were things he wouldn’t talk about: antifa’s tactics, its hangouts in the Bay, any specific groups or individuals.”

    Also, the local cops and prosecutors don’t seem like the guys who would be engineering an antifa wide prosecution. That would be more federal, wouldn’t it? Or a local prosecutor in a conservative region.

  66. @Anon

    “but I don’t get the impression that he was thinking about snitching.

    I met Clanton in a conference room at his lawyer’s office in Oakland…. He immediately told me there were things he wouldn’t talk about: antifa’s tactics, its hangouts in the Bay, any specific groups or individuals.”

    Didn’t Freud talk about Projection?

    When Eric Clanton shows up to party with his Antifa co-conspirators, how do you guys know he’s not wearing a wire? It’s not like “Miami Vice” days when you can rip his shirt off and see if he’s got a microphone. The bug could be microscopic in 2018.

    Think about it. Ask Eric about it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Ragno
  67. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Reading a little of the above now, it seems like he admits all the Antifa stuff, and the violent ideology, and he has previously participated in violent protests in which his friends were arrested. This seems like more than just felony assault. It seems like there is a conspiracy or gang or RICO component here that should have been addressed by the prosecutor.

    Jeff Sessions needs to be sent that Rolling Stone piece. “No, really Mr. Sessions, I know it’s Rolling Stone, but just give me a minute to explain: It’s chock full of information that can be used to put these Antifa guys away and throw away the key!”

    • Replies: @Marty T
  68. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Forrestal

    The IRS has a search page for 501(c)3′s. I suspected that claims of donations from places like the Ford Foundation were bogus, so I searched for their tax filings to find out. The “United For Equality And Affirmative Action Legal Defense Fund” hasn’t filed a tax return since 2012, in which year they were allowed to file by postcard since they had gotten less than $50,000 in receipts. Note that “less than $50,000″ could be $45,000 or it could be $0. At any rate, $50,000 doesn’t buy much legal work these days.

    So this big, bad organization is fake news.

    Their tax exempt status was revoked a year ago for repeated failure to file returns.

    https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/

    Also, traditionally I believe it has been the case that Bay Area radical direct action groups have shunned BAMN, considering it more of a cult than a political group. There’s a first-person account claiming to be written by a former member out there on the net who escaped, pretty weird. There were allegations of questionable “emacipation” court filings on behalf of young male black high school students from Detroit who would be sent to Oakland, without ID or credit cards or phones, to flop in the house of a local schoolteacher, cannon fodder for protests. I don’t know how much of it was true.

  69. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Ah, Miami Vice, patient zero of the “stubble beard.” Special electric razors started to appear like mushrooms, including the “Miami Device.”

    A 2011 NY Times piece on “stubble trimmers”:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/fashion/stubble-trimmers-give-men-the-after-5-look.html

  70. @Anon

    BAMN means By Any Means Necessary which means by violence.

  71. AndrewR says:
    @Colin Wright

    So you abandoned your family to live around a bunch of strangers just so you wouldn’t have to live around people darker than you.

    The only one you should be pissed off at is yourself.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  72. AndrewR says:
    @t-gordon

    Why not impose personal costs on the tyrants?

  73. TheBoom says:
    @AnotherDad

    This is not an issue that Trump or Sessions care about.

  74. Sapwood says:
    @anonymous

    Thanks, but you misunderstand. I don’t care what any 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 members of the Court may have “develop[ed].”

    No, I understood what you were doing. You were suggesting that the current rule is the result of a 5-4 squeaker decision and is therefore illegitimate. Unfortunately for you, you don’t know much about double jeopardy jurisprudence (or constitutional law in general) so you got called out on your deception.

    If a legitimate, constitutional government is to exercise more power than that authorized, then the document must be amended in accordance with its terms.

    And how does current double jeopardy jurisprudence grant the government more power than is authorized? You seem to think that the double jeopardy clause bars people from being “prosecuted repeatedly for the same act,” but that’s not what the clause says. The text of the clause discusses “offenses,” does it not?

    But I didn’t see any indication that it couldn’t just as well rationalize prosecutions by municipal and county governments, too. What can you tell us about that?

    Are cities and counties truly separate “sovereigns,” or are they mere sub-entities within a sovereign state? Maybe you could look into this and report back to us. With a bit more reading, you might finally discover the rationale for the dual sovereignty doctrine that keeps eluding you.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  75. Ibound1 says:
    @AnotherDad

    I was thinking the same thing. Are we really of the same nation as these people? This is more reminiscent of Arabs and Israelis, nations fundamentally hostile to each other.

  76. The Left are psyching themselves up for war; the Right is muttering about ……………

    HIRING LAWYERS!

    Ha-fucking-ha.

    Fareed Zakaria at CNN calls nativist, nationalist speech, hate speech, which she then labels literal “terrorism.” The NY Times editorial board consists of individuals with a racial animus toward whites that towers over any Southern bigot’s genteel notions of separate geographic and cultural space. The Left doesn’t want you to change your mind; they want you completely demoralized and humiliated. Then they want you physically dead.

    If Trump is literally Hitler and literally betraying his country to a foreign power, then his supporters are evil enablers and anything is justified.

    Being a prosecutor is low-pay, low-status work unless you’re in the Southern District of New York. Guess who staffs these jobs? Ethnic minorities chafing at not being wealthy personal injury or BigLaw lawyers, that’s who. Steve has written volumes about civil service tests, character requirements being rigged or thrown out altogether to get more ethnics in law enforcement. Say hello to your new police force. The bureaucracy is not the Right’s friend; look at the lengths to which they’re going to de-legitimize a President who won an election fair and square. A family member deals with the military on a regular basis. He estimates half of them are political Leftists, like the general population. I’ll go further: when it comes to safeguarding the government that signs their pension checks, the Big Green Machine will mow down whoever the government tells them to.

    The Left are psyching themselves up for actual warfare, which is the logical response to a literal-Hitler or quisling. The Right are stammering but but my finely-tuned rhetoric, my exquisite argumentation! Yea, the soundness of my IDEAS!

    The Left are not drawing up t-charts and ticking off ideological points. (“Hmm, maybe regulatory capture is real.”) They simply don’t believe you have a right to exist.

  77. Tulip says:

    Does he have a criminal record?

    Probably not.

    If the case goes to trial, is it possible a Berkeley jury will acquit or hang because they believe its always okay to punch a Nazi (or hit him with a bike lock)?

    What is a Judge going to do on sentencing anyways, since they seem to be on-board with the Panty-Fahs?

    What will happen to the DA in the local election if he/she jams it to some Panty-Fah moron?

    The guy probably should have gotten some kind of jail sentence, but I don’t see the prosecutors as crazy here. I just hope the victim sues and gets jack ass’s royalties from his perp’s smug self-congratulatory NYT best selling book of the month.

  78. Corn says:
    @SporadicMyrmidon

    A flaw of our judicial system: Criminal juries shouldn’t have to be unanimous. Not saying they should be simple majority vote but 11-1 or 10-2 juries should be permitted.

  79. Tulip says:

    I think the Right is just mad because they used to have the Klan out there terrorizing people, and now the Klan is ineffective, meanwhile the Left has the Panty-Fahs, who are just as nasty, reactionary and violent as the Klan ever was.

    You got out-organized, and of course the Establishment backs their paramilitary shock troops, just like the old days in Alabama.

    • Replies: @L0LwuT
  80. Ben H says:

    “Depraved indifference” means reckless behavior. Like putting on a blindfold and driving your car at top speed.

    Clanton’s behavior was not reckless, it was intentional – he was obviously trying to hurt people directly. That’s why they initially charged him with the “attack with deadly weapon” crime which I understand is essentially the same as attempted murder. (they charged the Rodney King cops with this crime and whatever you think about the beating, the cops got off because they were obviously trying to beat Rodney up nor murder him)

    Still more evidence that the progressive elite consider the Antifa like the KKK, the group that does their dirty work.

    • Replies: @Marty
  81. Seamus says:
    @Anon

    Alameda county DA is one of the most pro criminal in the country and has been since the OFEEs were brought to work in the shipyards during WW2.

    Even when Ed Meese was working there?

    • Replies: @Anon
  82. Civil War II On The Way

  83. @Jack Hanson

    My current bet is 2024; neither side is going to be willing to lose that election. I would advise everyone to get the hell out of any major urban center- an American civil war will rapidly escalate to atrocities by the left and then a nuclear response by the right.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
    , @Anon
  84. Ragno says:

    Meanwhile, in darkest Virginia, where they’ve already renamed a city street after the dead Communist activist who got run over while helping a mob to attack a moving car, James Fields awaits his preordained railroading.

    Perhaps Professor Clanton will attend the sentencing, and another judge will wink at him.

  85. David says:

    Since the maximum sentence for what he pleaded guilty to is a year, he’s not allowed to buy or possess guns for the rest of his life. He is kind of an outlaw, since he’s not allowed to protect himself in the most practical way.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Anonymous
  86. Ragno says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “I met Clanton in a conference room at his lawyer’s office in Oakland…. He immediately told me there were things he wouldn’t talk about: antifa’s tactics, its hangouts in the Bay, any specific groups or individuals.”

    “If I say yes, how do I know you won’t leak this out there? How do I know you won’t get me killed?”

    “Don’t worry, Professor; this isn’t exactly our first rodeo. We’ll issue a statement that leaves you completely in the clear.”

  87. fnn says:
    @Anon

    There’s still the National Lawyers Guild:

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/We-are-all-antifa-12174947.php

    This is antifa — a broad movement of people who stand against the violence of white supremacists and fascists, violence emboldened by the ascendancy of Donald Trump to the presidency.

    Despite our victory, Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin called for antifa to be classified as a criminal gang. The lesson here is that we cannot depend on the government to meaningfully intervene and prevent the rise of fascism. That is up to us.

    The National Lawyers Guild, an organization of thousands of lawyers, law students and legal workers across the country, has supported free speech and assembly for all progressive and radical movements for 80 years.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    , @Anon
  88. Marty T says:

    We clearly can’t depend on the justice system. So it’s time for us to look outside that system, like our enemies do.

    I mean, Clanton’s address cannot be that hard to find. And bike locks cannot be that hard to find.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  89. @anonymous

    Cities, counties, school districts, precincts for police, etc. all exist entirely at the pleasure of the state (as in Kansas, Alabama, Connecticut; not as in “the government). Such municipalities are not sovereign in the way the individual states and the federal government are. Tomorrow morning the legislature of Florida can convene in Tallahassee and abolish that very city, along with fifteen or fifty others; they can decree that all counties of the state are to be consolidated into three larger counties. And so on. The federal legislature absolutely cannot likewise tomorrow decree that Florida and Alabama are both individually defunct and conjoined in the newly created state of Floribama (due south of Kentuckiana, naturally).

    The difference stems from the fact that the federal government is a creature of the several states, and one of enumerated powers, established in an assembled congress and empowered by a binding and irrevocable constitution. Contra, local governments are creatures of the several states, without the protections of such a constitution. Though some states’ constitutions may in fact enshrine certain prerogatives to local governments, even those can be undone by the legislature’s or populace’s amending the constitution. (One might say the same of the federal constitution; many did in 1861, and we all know how well that ended. among other things, West Virginia was created in explicit contradiction of the federal constitution’s prohibition of the creation of new states from the territories of existing states without the existing states’ permission. I digress; but this stuff is all down to the silly faith people put in pieces of paper so acerbically – and rightly – summed up nowadays with “Muh constitution!”)

    That’s the five-minute lecture on dual sovereignty for you and how come its not relevant to local governments.

    Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a deadly weapon or instrument other than a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment. – Cal. Pen. Code §245(a)(1)

    Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.

    Every person who attempts to commit any crime, but fails, or is prevented or intercepted in its perpetration, shall be punished where no provision is made by law for the punishment of those attempts… [I]f the crime attempted is willful, deliberate, and premeditated murder … the person guilty of that attempt shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole.

    You could argue the guy was in a blind rage, but even then charges of manslaughter will lie.

    Incidentally, speaking of locks and philosophy: Thomas Jefferson once quipped that his own most famous composition was “pure Locke.” The raison d’être of that document was, of course, that governments violating the social contract – by, for instance, refusing to exercise their monopoly on violence and incarceration to protect the governed from madmen attempting murder – thereby forfeit any and all authority they have to govern.

    • Replies: @rob
  90. Marty T says:
    @Anon

    Agreed. Time for the DOJ to make itself useful.

    • Replies: @Anon
  91. Vendetta says:

    Meanwhile our friend John Rivello is still facing assault with a deadly weapon and hate crime charges for sending a seizure gif to Kurt Eichenwald.

  92. Here’s an idea. Sue the jerk in civil court for damages. California torts are quite generous. Get him, and as many of the antifa organizers as can be associated, and sue them into oblivion, while making sure to tar & feather them as the bully hategroup they are.Tell the plaintiffs that itll be done @ cost so he can keep the bulk of the award.

    Thats what the SPLC, MALDEF and the rest of America’s enemies within would do. Once there is a precedent, they are cooked.

  93. Flip says:
    @Ibound1

    If the government won’t protect people from violence, then people will protect themselves through vigilantism.

  94. SMK says: • Website
    @Ibound1

    The criminal injustice system is perverted at all levels by blacks and “Hispanics” (and Muslims, to a lesser degree. far lesser as compared to the UK and Western Europe) and their white enablers and apologists and sycophants and by feminist and left-liberal politics and ideology in general. Then imagine what things will be like in the future when nonwhites (blacks, Mestizos/Amerindians, Muslims) and white leftists control everything, including the criminal justice system: policing, arrests, prosecutions, plea-bargaining, trials and juries, sentencing, prisons, parole. Crime and the criminal justice system: the ultimate horror of white dispossession.

  95. rob says:
    @Autochthon

    “Thomas Jefferson once quipped that his own most famous composition was “pure Lock”

    What a coincidence. Canton’s most famous composition was pure lock, too.

  96. SMK says: • Website
    @Angular momentum

    A real case of white leftist privilege.

  97. @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Prison is the most ruthless place on earth. Everyone in prison is or quickly becomes a race realist. A white guy who is willing to fight will take some lumps, but will be okay after a while. A white guy who is a coward or hates his own race and kowtows to the savages does not stand a chance.

    Bingo.

    Prison is a huge potential problem for self-hating whites like Clanton — and why legal defense/ influence on the legal system is so important to maintain these plausibly-deniable shock troops of the progressive establishment. The Aryan Brotherhood isn’t going to care that he’s white — they’re going to care that he hates his own people. And the Mexican Mafia, or the Black Guerrilla Family, aren’t going to care about his political opinions — they’ll care that he’s white.

    So it’s critical for the progressive establishment to keep these guys from getting serious prison time — it would kill their recruiting.

  98. @Anonymous

    We’ll be lucky to end up like Brazil. I expect worse.

    Yugoslavia comes to mind.

  99. MarkinLA says:
    @David

    I think the federal form states more than a year. In California violent, gun related, or drug related misdemeanors can cause you to lose your gun rights for 10 years. Of course, the governor can always pardon him.

    • Replies: @CAlawyer
  100. MarkinLA says:
    @Marty T

    If you did to him what he did, don’t think for a moment you won’t be prosecuted for a felony.

  101. Anonymous[546] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    He does seem to have gotten off light in criminal court (possibly in part if he lacks a prior record and he pleaded no contest to a lesser charge). But the victims can still get their pound of flesh in civil court. And it should be an easy win to sue him back to his mother’s basement as he pleaded guilty and was found guilty in criminal court and the bar for being found guilty is lower in civil court than criminal court.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
    , @Anon
  102. @fnn

    The National Lawyers Guild, an organization of thousands of lawyers, law students and legal workers across the country, has supported free speech and assembly for all progressive and radical movements for 80 years.

    Funny you should mention that. Shanta Driver, the leader of BAMN/ UEAA, is a recipient of the (((National Lawyers Guild))) Unsung Hero Award.

    Note — from controlled media coverage of BAMN, most people get the impression that it’s:
    1. Based out of Berkeley, and
    2. Headed by Yvette Felarca

    Both are false. Both BAMN and UEAA are based in Detroit, and headed by Shanta Driver (attorney in Detroit). (((Donna Stern))) is the #2 for UEAA. (((Tania Kappner))) and Felarca are local, Berkeley-area leaders for BAMN. Felarca seems to serve as the public face of BAMN.

    Note: (((Joyce Schon))) died in 2016.

  103. His colleges were Cal State Bakersfield and San Francisco State.
    He is not “highly educated” and I would be surprised if his IQ is much over 110.

    • Replies: @Anon
  104. Marty says:
    @Ben H

    …trying to beat Rodney up nor murder him.

    Not even that. They were just trying to get him to comply. Whatever craziness made King run from the CHP at 104 mph for 4 1/2 minutes also caused him to refuse to get on the ground. In case you’ve forgotten, there were two other brothas in the car with King. They immediately got on the ground as ordered, and weren’t touched.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  105. CAlawyer says:
    @MarkinLA

    Yes, by statute in California, any conviction for battery, even a shove in the chest, means automatic 10-year disqualification from firearm owership. No discretion.

  106. @Anon

    traditionally I believe it has been the case that Bay Area radical direct action groups have shunned BAMN, considering it more of a cult than a political group.

    Huh. Perhaps someone forgot to let the mayor of Berkeley know about this “shunning?”

    Since he was a Facebook friend of Felarca’s, and a member of the BAMN Facebook group, and all…

    And your UEAA denialism seems rather confused as well. Shanta Driver doesn’t necessarily have to “purchase” legal work, of course. As an attorney at Scheff, Washington & Driver, she can do it herself (or her partners can).

    At the retail level, she recently defended a group of antifa terrorists who attacked Trump supporters:

    https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter

    But she has been involved much higher level cases as well. She gave the oral argument for BAMN to the US Supreme Court in Schuette v. Coalition, a failed 2014 attempt to reimpose anti-white racial preferences in Michigan against the will of the voters. She was assisted in this by (((Mark Rosenbaum)) of the ACLU (clearly yet another poverty-stricken, fringe organization).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuette_v._Coalition_to_Defend_Affirmative_Action#Supreme_Court

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?315642-1/schuette-v-coalition-defend-affirmative-action-oral-argument

    She also claims to have been a major force behind Grutter v. Bollinger, the University of Michigan Law School case in which the US Supreme Court upheld anti-white racial preferences at the University of Michigan in 2003.

    Ironically, Driver was also published in the American Medical Associations’ “Journal of Ethics,” writing about her efforts to impose anti-white racial preferences in Michigan “By Any Means Necessary.”

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/defense-affirmative-action-any-means-necessary/2014-06

    In addition to her prominent roles as an attorney and in directing a terrorist organization, Driver has been heavily involved in propaganda as well.
    Since the mid-1990s, she has been a guest speaker—chiefly on the subject of anti-white racial preferences —at hundreds of colleges and universities nationwide. She also has addressed scores of civil-rights, professional, religious, political, and governmental organizations, including the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, the National Alliance of Black School Educators, the U.S. Department of Transportation, the Missouri Department of Natural Resources, the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, the NAACP National Convention, the Tavis Smiley Foundation Youth2Leaders Conference, the National Bar Association, the American Sociological Association, Americans for Democratic Action, the Progressive National Baptist Convention, the National Organization for Women, and the Society of American Law Teachers.

    Clearly a figure very solidly backed by the progressive establishment — hence the need for Felarca to act as the “public face” of BAMN, of course. Having such an establishment figure directing a “radical” group that is “rebelling against the establishment” is something that needs to be obscured… at least slightly.

  107. @Anon

    I met Clanton in a conference room at his lawyer’s office in Oakland…. He immediately told me there were things he wouldn’t talk about: antifa’s tactics, its hangouts in the Bay, any specific groups or individuals.”

    That’s clearly the line that he agreed on with the Rolling Stone narrative promoters as a cover. It’s obvious that he ratted out his fellow commies. Looks like it could be tough on the antifags if Clanton’s still around to testify when the federal RICO indictments come through…

  108. @Harry Baldwin

    I doubt he has anything to fear. One of the interesting things about the Alt Right is that they enthuse over people like Hitler but in their personal lives they are more like Trekkies. Okay, there are a few rednecks in neo-confederate groups who actually know how to fight and shoot, but the old militia right of the 90s seems to have disappeared. What happened to all those guys who were prepping for a battle royal with New World Order soldiers in blue helmets? Have they died off already? Part of the difference might be that the militia types were gainfully employed family men, often ex-military or ex-cops, which gave them a degree of courage and confidence. (This is largely a guess on my part.) The Alt Right are probably low-status semi-unemployed boys in their 20s who feel like losers when not “shit-posting” on the internet.
    I’m not saying this is necessarily a change for the worse, but the extreme passivity of the Alt Right does encourage both the left and the authorities to take advantage of them.

  109. @Anonymous

    How on earth can you smash seven different people in the head with a bicycle lock, causing profuse bleeding in at least one case, and not get any jail time? And there’s a clear public interest in punishing people who assault strangers with a deadly weapon. Isn’t there?

    On the other hand, that mob of Lubavitcher Jews in NYC who beat a gay black kid from fashion school nearly to death because he looked like a vandal got off without a day in jail. 100 hours of community service for the worst. That’s 2 1/2 weeks of non-jail for permanently disfiguring an innocent minority group member while shouting slurs at him in one of America’s most politically correct cities. I wonder if the Lubavitcher patrol even lost their $500,000 city stipend.

  110. @Samuel Skinner

    A nuclear response by the right?? What do you think this is 1850? Or even 1950? Or 1990? The right consists of poor old men in their 70s and a gaggle of pimply kids surfing the internet. Remember the “militias” of the 1990s? Haven’t heard from them lately, have you? The recent wave of outrages by the left has gone almost totally unanswered. Decades of leftist hegemony in schools and churches have taken their toll and I will be surprised if the right’s resistance goes beyond appealing to Jews to crack down on the anti-Israel message of certain progressive factions.

  111. WR says:
    @istevefan

    “…he is a highly-educated college professor…” Highly-credentialed does not mean highly-educated. Have you been to a US campus lately? I’m afraid you give undeserved credit to people teaching at Universities. About 70% of recent Ph.D.s in the Humanities nowadays are pretentious morons who repeat SJW platitudes 24/7. Most of the adjunct faculty – like this violent buffoon – are paid very little. Still, they take great pride in indoctrinating the new generation of lefitst automatons.

    Eric Clanton teaches “ethics” at Diablo Valley College. Diablo = the devil; how fitting… After receiving a slap on the wrist for his display of bravery, he will get more national exposure. If I were him I would send my CV to Ezra Klein, the NYT or The Atlantic. I am sure they will interested in him. He could get more money writing venomous articles against white people without the risk of injuring his hand while operating bike locks at his current full-time job. BTW, do we know if Eric asked for workers’ compensation?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  112. @jack daniels

    That was a rather revealing combination of fantasy and projection. Thanks for the entertainment.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
  113. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Yes. Left-wing courts/judges going easy on left-wing militants while throwing the book at right-wing militants. This is mid-1930s Spain again. But where is the American Franco?

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @prusmc
    , @Jack Hanson
  114. 12345 says:

    TIRED: “How to Philosophize with a Hammer” (Nietzsche, 1888)

    WIRED: “How to Philosophize with a Bike Lock” (Clanton, 2017)

  115. Anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @WR

    It a professor part time instructor $30 $40 an hour maybe. Paid for 6 to 12 hours a week.

    The community colleges are cesspools where these infectious germs spread the plague of liberalism and hated of Whites

  116. martin2 says:

    This is a terrible injustice. Unprovoked assault that causes serious bodily harm almost always ends in a custodical sentence, and there are exacerbating factors as well.

    The attack was politically motivated and the victim clearly posed no threat to the perpetrator. There is a good case that such crimes constititute a threat to democratic principles, which regular street assaults clearly do not, so that the assailant should be made an example of.

    The assailant, shit stain though he is, is not mentally retarded and he is I believe in his late twenties or early thirties, so feeble mindedness or youth cannot be offered in mitigation. A man of his age and education would have a clear idea of the repercussions of his action. He knew what he was getting into.

    How much longer are you Americans going to take it up the arse ffs. (How much longer are we all going to be taking up the arse?)

    In the video, look at the way he sneaks up on the victim by hiding behind someone else and scurries away afterward. What a disgusting coward. Leftits like this turd floating on the toilet of the world imagine that since the ends justify the means they can engage their enemy without any sense of fairplay or principle, – those are apparently stale pale male concepts. But civility and other bourgeois norms are not protecting normal white Americans from them, they are – for now – protecting leftits from normal white Americans.

  117. @AndrewR

    ‘So you abandoned your family to live around a bunch of strangers just so you wouldn’t have to live around people darker than you.

    The only one you should be pissed off at is yourself.’

    This makes at least two assumptions that are invalid.

    I might as well inform you that if you hadn’t engaged in unprotected anal sex, you wouldn’t have AIDS.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AndrewR
  118. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Samuel Skinner

    LOL a million times and read Jack Daniels post. We can’t even make a dent in school integration affirmative action non White immigration and rampant black in White crime

    All those NRA fantasies about home armories in the garage? Don’t bring hunting rifles to a tank battle.

    Where have you been for the last 60 years?

  119. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    More like 100 IQ.

    Typical $35.00 an hour 8 hours a week 40 week school year. What’s that, $11,00 a year? Probably gets food stamps. And every year these scum POS beg to keep their jobs and maybe pick up 3 more hours a week.

  120. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @t-gordon

    You are right. A revolution needs

    1 first and foremost backing by an elite

    2 money

    3 organization

    # 1 is the most important Whites have non of the 3. The only thing left is individual direct action which is illegal and if caught would lead to a king prison term surrounded by screaming blacks, both guards and prisoners

  121. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s true that having pled guilty makes it easier to sue him for damages in civil court. But the guy seems to have no assets. No attorney will go after a respondent who has no assets. The victims could represent themselves and might get a judgement. But this would be an Alameda county jury and POS judge in the Oakland courthouse since the Oakland courthouse has jurisdiction over Berkeley.

    But since he has no assets there would be no money. Also Clanton would get excellent legal representation free of charge from some progressive tax payer funded legal foundation.

    • Replies: @Anon
  122. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prof. Woland

    Pleading guilty to beating White conservatives is a primo qualification for a college instructor job. Look up Angela Davis, Bill Ayers Bernadette Dohrn Kathy Boudin and Susan Rosenberg

  123. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @WR

    He’s a goy White man. Only way he’ll get a media job is if he becomes trans gender.

  124. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T

    The DOJ is just another anti White government agency like the EEOC , Housing dept and education dept.

    • Replies: @Anon
  125. @Colin Wright

    My apologies for that comment. I wish I hadn’t made it, but no editing…

  126. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I’m sure his legal defense was funded by some taxpayer funded liberal legal foundation. There are hundreds of them in the Bay Area dating back to the 1930s. Plus there are plenty of well off liberals who’d pass the hat and donate
    $10,000 or more apiece and get a charitable donation tax deduction.

  127. Flip says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes, the Spanish Civil War is starting to be a good analogy.

    • Replies: @Anon
  128. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sapwood

    Which words in the Constitution authorize the national government to punish a man for committing a battery in California?

    • Replies: @Sapwood
    , @Anon
  129. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Please don’t call him a professor He’s a part time instructor

  130. AndrewR says:
    @Colin Wright

    By family I didn’t mean “dependents…”

    Parents siblings adult-children aunts uncles nieces nephews cousins etc… Maybe you moved closer to some but your comment doesn’t really imply so.

    Anyway, I was mostly trolling, and lawd knows I am not close to any of my relatives, at least emotionally. And I’m not close to many of them physically because they’re dispersed throughout the country (and in my brother’s case, world). But we really should hold tight kinship networks as a social ideal. From there, tighter ethnic networks are natural.

  131. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    We need to nationalize justice.

    US is political democracy, not an economic democracy. It wasn’t founded on equality of wealth but equality of justice. But with so much of justice system privatized and profit-motivated, justice can never be fair or equal.

    Nationalist the legal system. Equal justice for all.

  132. prusmc says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Let’s be serious, there is no and there will be no Franco. There will only be the sad site of a defeated and rejected President viewing a military parade on the 100th anniversary of Armistace Day, November 11.

  133. 3g4me says:
    @Jack Hanson

    @55 Jack Hanson: “The inability of some of you on here to realize we are in a warming civil war is staggering. I include Sailer in this.

    No one is coming to save you.”

    This. I just laugh skimming the legal minutiae the boomer lawyers here post. They truly believe “muh magic rule of law” and “muh magic constitution” will save them – that, plus the magic franchise. They have no clue what is coming, and will continue to preach moderation to the mob. Other are becoming far more realistic: http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=14683 (“Waiting for the Spark”) and https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2018/08/06/the-unconscious-girds-for-war/.

  134. 3g4me says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    @76 The Anti-Gnostic: “The Left are not drawing up t-charts and ticking off ideological points. (“Hmm, maybe regulatory capture is real.”) They simply don’t believe you have a right to exist.”

    Excellent overall comment, but it’s no use. They are firmly attached to their normalcy bias and will not give it up until it is far too late. Despite their protestations otherwise, they deeply believe in magic dirt. This is America!!! Neither history nor human nature hold any sway here . . . until they will and these guys will all be dead.

  135. L0LwuT says:
    @Tulip

    The problem with your argument is that the Klan was a DEMOCRATIC organization. They were founded by Democrats for Democrats. The Klan is the Original Radical Left.

    • Replies: @Tulip
  136. @t-gordon

    Blaze like meteors.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  137. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @fnn

    National lawyers guild has always been a radical far left revolutionary group. Not socialism, revolution

  138. @Jack Hanson

    No one is coming to save you.

    We don’t need someone to come and save us. We can destroy the Left all by ourselves.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  139. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha

    I must add: my Jewish friends are also naive about this. They only ones who “get it” are recent immigrants from Eastern Europe and Georgia, Armenia, Iran.

  140. @Anon

    Nationalist the legal system. Equal justice for all.

    You think you will get justice from the DoJ and the FBI? You are delusion.

  141. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Remember the Bologna family in San Francisco. 2 boys and their father shot dead by an illegal alien felon released from the city jail in violation of an immigration hold the day before he murdered them.

    The felon encountered the Bolognas at an intersection and opened fire for no reason. He was convicted Mrs Bologna sued the city for wrongful death, the wrong being letting the illegal felon out of jail in violation of the immigration hold.

    Her case was dismissed at the preliminary hearing.

    This a city in which half the population is the so called conservative Chinese so many fools hope will someday, sometime somewhere unite with Whites.

    Census claims only 33% but Chinese don’t fill out the census forms.

  142. @jack daniels

    You’ve got a critical point exactly backwards, dumbass: those of us qualified and experienced with – and unafraid of – violence are, unfortunately, exactly the least able to act precisely because we’ve families we must prioritise over the incredibly risky efforts meaningful action requires; we learned the lesson vicariously from our predecessors years ago. Equally unfortunately, the kinds of desperate men who truly have nothing to lose and might therefore be freer to act are (and in this part at least you’re more discerning) interested in anonymous rants between video games or –worse, really – if they do have influence or power they are only in it for fame, cash, and prizes. Egregious examples of the latter are the president of the F.U.S.A. himself, Kimberly Guilfoyle and her ilk (the bride of Gavin Newsome a stalwart conservative; uh-huh…), and the various YouTube / Patreon flavours of the month (Lauren Southern, Richard Spencer, etc.)

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @MBlanc46
  143. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha

    I must add: my Jewish friends are also, naive about this. The only ones who “get it” are recent immigrants from Eastern Europe; and Georgia, Armenia, Iran. My Vietnamese neighbor is a full-on Trump Train (with her husband).

    I have always believed there are good Jews and bad Jews as much as there are good Christians (same for Muslims, Hindi, etc.) and bad Christians. However, most groups are unaware about the machinations that are used to manipulate their particular cultural feelings about what is really going on.

    I have no doubt that it is simply, too late, to fool people, because the lessons of diversity have been going on at least 2 decades to a demographic population that will decide the most important decisions in 5-20 years – namely, the Millennials. Millennilas are too cynical to be paid-off. lied to, flattered, strong-armed. In some ways, they have already shown (this past year and a half) how violent and inchoate they are. Politicians and the Elite commerce people, will not have control…the kids are smarter than you. Kind of a sick prediction, but I have argued all summer with Millennials! hahaaa

  144. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    It’s not a civil war. War means both sides fighting back. Whites are in a slow genocide. Think Ukraine Kulaks in the 1930s

  145. @The Anti-Gnostic

    Probably a good topic for a blog post.

    I look forward to your blog post.

  146. @Anon

    All those NRA fantasies about home armories in the garage? Don’t bring hunting rifles to a tank battle. Where have you been for the last 60 years?

    Only an idiot would assume that the NRA’s purpose is to prepare for a WWII tank battle. Are you stupid, or did you miss all the guerrilla warfare in the last 60 years?

  147. Sapwood says:
    @anonymous

    Which words in the Constitution authorize the national government to punish a man for committing a battery in California?

    He wouldn’t be charged in federal court for simple assault. But to answer your question, most federal criminal statutes are based on the necessary and proper clause.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  148. @Anon

    Nope. That is not how the American Revolution was won. We don’t need an elite, because they did not have one. Money and organization are essential, but both are available to us.

    • Replies: @Anon
  149. @prusmc

    There will only be the sad site of a defeated and rejected President viewing a military parade on the 100th anniversary of Armistace Day, November 11.

    You are thinking about France, because that won’t happen here.

  150. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seamus

    It was worse when Meese was DA and Regean was governor.

    One problem in Alameda is that the county seat and main criminal court building are in black ghetto Oakland right next door to radical UC Berkeley. When Meese was DA Oakland was blacker and Berkeley redder and crazier

    Ancient POS Israel lobbyist David Horowitz was the communist party Jewish liberal liaison to the original Black Panthers then. Black Panthers of course were federally funded by the War on Poverty and other federal and liberal like the Ford Foundation then

    Supposedly Meese said being an Alameda DA was the most useless job in the world as it was so difficult to get a conviction in Oakland.

    Here’s an example. From about 1965 to the late 1970s Alameda DA’s office had a policy of absolutely not ever filing rape charges against blacks who raped Whites.

    That’s because there would be riots and death threats against the victim. Faye Stender, Charles Garry, David Horowitz Ron Delluns and the rest of the Prison Law Project and the Berkeley liberals would be out rabble rousing against the victim on federal funds.

    There was one case in Berkeley around that time A cop heard a woman screaming in a park and found a White Berkeley student with a black rapist on top of and in her. The rapist refused to get off her and kept pumping away. So the cop pulled him off. The rapist fought the cop. Cop shot the rapist. Berkeley chief of police was forced to go in TV and apologize to the rapist. Alameda didn’t file charges against that rapist for the usual reasons: rapist would be aquitted and riots and Aaron would ensue and victim might be killed.

    Meese was DA Regean was governor at the time

    That was the one good thing the feminazis did, was turn around the rape laws. Of course all those Jewish Connie activist women who were crusading against rape in 1975 has been demonstrating in favor of black rapists in 1970. I Saw the wicked witches vicious bitches as they changed. Their bible was that book To Kill a Mockingbird. I called it the To Kill a Mockingbird Defense.

    When Meese was Alameda DA and Regean was governor the sentence for first degree murder in California was a mere 7 years. Actually they only served 3 1/2 years with time off for good behavior.

    Before radical Jewish women decided there was more federal money crusading against rape than in crusading for the right of black men to rape White women. Across the Bay in San Francisco, rapists were charged and convicted. Remember, juries convict but the Judges impose the sentences.

    The sentence for rape in San Francisco was 3 weeks evaluation in a mental hospital. That’s how I got the rape caseload. I lived nearest the mental hospital north of the city to which they were sent. So I could drive them up there and then just go home without going back to the city.

    I soon changed that. I kept the ones in the mental hospital for years. When I was assigned new ones I convinced the judges to send them to state prison for the maximum term.

    That’s why I hate feninazis and liberals so much. They were pro rapist from about 1920 on. In 1970 when the liberal Jewish feminazis went in the anti rape crusade it was not directed at the rapists

    The anti rape crusade was directed at the White male pre affirmative action cops, detectives and DAs who pulled the rapists off the victims, investigated the crime and brought charges and prosecuted the rapists. The White male rescuers were insensitive and made the victims feel bad. The White rescuers were as bad as the rapists.

    Mainly, the Jewish liberal feminazis had no idea that rape is primarily a black thing. In cities that have blacks, almost all the rapists are black. I cannot remember one rapist who was not black. And I had them all for years.

    I’ve always believed that had the Jewish liberal feminazi anti rape crusaders known that rape was a primarily black thing back then, they would never have crusaded against rape.

    But it worked out and the rape laws are vastly strengthened and the To Kill a Mockingbird defense disappeared by 1980 but for 20 years a lot of black rapists got off because of that book.

    Never forget that the rape laws in 1920 were fine and that it was Jewish radical liberals who destroyed the rape laws to the extent that by 1965 or so a major county didn’t prosecute black on White rape at all.

    Believe me, Alameda is a lot more law and order now than when Meese was DA.

  151. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    The founding fathers were the wealthiest people in the colonies. Washington’s wife alone was the richest woman and 6 richest person in the 13 colonies before she married . Jefferson, Hancock, Franklin, John Carroll owned a couple counties in Maryland Madison, they were the wealthy elite who led the revolution

    They were the elite and they didn’t make a move until the French navy was building ships to transport their troops, the French army was recruiting and training troops, the French armament factories were producing arms and the French treasury had committed the 13 billion they lent us

    I suppose you believe the revolution was fomented and fought by stalwart poor frontiersmen with their rifles. Find a book written above 5th grade level.

    Whites have had since 1956, Brown vs Topeka to organize and find funds to fight back. We haven’t. We haven’t even done any individual direct action as Vera Figner and the 1880s Russian revolutionaries.

    We’ve just acquiesced in our slow genocide. BTW, all those militias and White power groups were all FBI ATF SPLC ADL ACLU fronts. Their purpose was:

    1 to scare liberals that Whites might fight back

    2 to entice people like me to join to set us up for crimes. That’s standard secret police tactics to find and destroy the opposition

    I’m not going to argue with someone who believes the 5th grade version of the American revolution who doesn’t know the founding fathers were the wealthy elite.

  152. @The Anti-Gnostic

    ‘….The Left are psyching themselves up for actual warfare, which is the logical response to a literal-Hitler or quisling. The Right are stammering but but my finely-tuned rhetoric, my exquisite argumentation! Yea, the soundness of my IDEAS!…’

    Sigh. Something else I wish weren’t true.

  153. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flip

    General Franco is the greatest hero of the 20th century.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  154. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:

    “That is not how the American Revolution was won.”

    The revolution was won because it was never put to a vote. It would have failed had it been so because the war was unpopular, an inconvenient fact that is often purposely overlooked.

    The real story of the American Revolution is that the American elite – learned, wise, culturally superior specimens of society – seized power and kicked out the crown for the benefit of themselves and their posterity. And it worked out great. Democracy would have snuffed out that great accomplishment because there is an unequal distribution of wisdom, creativity, and cognition in any given population. Not all votes are equal. We can’t depend on the dull to lead the bright, the unwise to lead the wise, or the cowardly to lead the brave. Most people are just chaff.

    There is a lesson to be learned in that. Strong men seize power and impose their righteous leadership upon the unworthy, as it should be – at least until the population is genetically modified for superior intelligence, bravery, and social loyalty while inferior left wing traits such as cuckoldry and virtue signalling are removed.

    The two party democratic system will fail in the United States very soon now due to the foolish actions of the current governing elite and the idiocy of the masses. I just hope we have a Caesar waiting in the background to stitch things back together.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    , @Graham
  155. Anon[997] • Disclaimer says:

    “One of the interesting things about the Alt Right is that they enthuse over people like Hitler but in their personal lives they are more like Trekkies.”

    That’s one of the more astute observations I’ve encountered on this blog.

  156. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Nice to see someone who knows it’s 2018, not 1950.

    The people who think Whites can fight back are unaware of Brown vs Topeka 56 64 civil rights act, 65 immigration act 68 affirmative action act Griggs vs Duke Power Kaiser vs Weber and the rest of the anti White laws.

  157. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s on Probation The Probation officer is an affirmative action black brown beige yellow LGBTU radical of some kind. Clanton will stay out of trouble and fill all the requirements.

  158. “Mainly, the Jewish liberal feminazis had no idea that rape is primarily a black thing.”

    Same in US prisons. Whites and Mexicans inmates shun their co-ethnics who are prison rapists. Negroes are happy to turn to other men when no women are available.

    And they don’t consider themselves gay for raping another man, even though they are initiating gay sex. They view the victim as a bitch, so it’s the same as a woman to them. They really are an alien species.

  159. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    What makes you say that?

  160. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Maybe some civil rights/voting statutes? People also talk about a “RICO,” whatever that is.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  161. @Anon

    So true.
    Not a Caesar though, but a Bonaparte: a figure who has made his career with the Revolution but then takes it in hand, tames it, and unites it with the realism and hierarchy of the old order.

  162. @Anon

    True in so many ways.

    In the end, and before he died he knew it, he was betrayed both by the Church he had saved and the dynasty he had restored, the wretched Bourbon, who immediately dismantled, for the sake of their own skins, everything which he had done for them and for Spain during forty blessed years of that blessed peace which is the tranquility of order.

  163. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Revolution, as an abstract political idea, is a fascinating thing.

    The late Harold Covington was a pretty astute observer of revolution and wrote some pretty interesting stuff about it. He and I had a few discussions about it. We disagreed on some things but I certainly think he had pretty well limned the necessary conditions for it and the necessary objectives any successful one would need to accomplish.

    Bottom line, it isn’t happening in the near future. It will happen, but it might be a long, long time.
    Had HRC been elected, the timetable might have gone up a couple decades.

    Whether that is bad or good depends on a lot of things. Personally, I hope I am, as Isaac Asimov said, safely dead by then. I’m too old for that shit.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  164. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @David

    Gun laws only matter if and as they are enforced. In practice, most underclass black felons have guns, but they don’t carry them on the street. The only exception is if they are on some probation or parole status where their crib can be searched at any time.

    I’m guessing that for him, California will look the other way so long as he isn’t flagrant.

  165. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sapwood

    “The Congress shall have Power … To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

    Now, which such “foregoing Powers” or “other Powers vested by this Constitution” authorize the national government to punish a man for committing a battery in California?

    • Replies: @Sapwood
  166. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    None of those is in the Constitution.

  167. Sapwood says:
    @anonymous

    Again, the charge wouldn’t be for plain old battery.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anonymous
  168. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sapwood

    Charge it up however you want, the act was battery.

    So, please answer my last question. I’m learning a lot from you.

  169. @Marty

    I thought King was flipped out on drugs.

  170. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Bottom line, it isn’t happening in the near future.

    It happened in 2015-16.

  171. Graham says:
    @Anon

    “the American elite – learned, wise, culturally superior specimens of society – seized power and kicked out the crown for the benefit of themselves and their posterity. And it worked out great. ”

    Well, yes, you have a point. I’ve always seen the whole strange tragedy as an unnecessary row between two sets of landowning gentlemen, with similar tastes, clothes, and indeed wigs, on different sides of the Atlantic. The term revolution is overblown; we call it a war of independence over here. I suppose it did ‘work out great’, but not that much greater than it did for Canada, which didn’t need a ‘revolution’.

    Of course this wildly off topic, and I agree with most people that Clanton has got off very lightly for his crimes and it would be excellent if he could serve some time in clink.

  172. DonRS says:

    The kangaroo fake judge in this typical California fake court delivered the typical “fake justice” in northern California.

  173. Tulip says:
    @L0LwuT

    Not an argument, an observation.

    The party of Jefferson-Jackson has historically been on the side of the slave owners. After the Civil War, all the former Confederates who formed the Klan were Democrats. Most of the Klansmen were probably Democrats. Most Democrats before Truman were fully on the side of White Supremacy.

    But the Klan has always been a reactionary group, dedicated to preserving the status quo through violence, not a revolutionary group, and in this sense belongs to the far Right. [Huey Long and Father Coughlin were Democrats, but their politics is generally viewed in the Rightist/Fascist typology.]

    It is rather silly to place all anti-liberals on the Left. The bourgeois liberal right, while clearly belonging on the right, replaced an aristocratic, anti-liberal right. Further, in the interwar years, the bourgeois liberal right, when they were faced with possible extinction from Bolshevism, were more than happy to ally with a fascist and national socialist anti-liberal right.

    Just as they seem to be happy to ally with a fascist anti-liberal “left” today.

    One is free to define terms as one might (see Sarah Jeong’s defenders), but I don’t see the utility in pretending that all anti-liberalism belongs to the Left, when liberalism was invented in the late 18th and 19th centuries, and there were plenty of anti-liberal conservatives both during and before that time.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  174. Dwynn says:

    Eric Clanton takes 3-year probation deal in Berkeley rally bike lock assault case is total bull shit. Eric Clanton former East Bay college philosophy professor did willfully attack another person with intent to complete bodily harm used a lethal weapon and the idiotic liberal socialist judge slaps him on the hand and give Eric Clanton 3-year probation. If this happen to be Republican professor and the injured was a democrat he would have received a sentence no less than 5 years.

    This judge is a total and complete ill-responsible ——– I can’t say a Jackass because they all are 100 times smarter than theses imbecilic judges who presides over this case. He should be FIRED and REMOVED from the BENCH.

  175. Anon[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    we learned the lesson vicariously from our predecessors years ago.

    To whom and to what are you referring?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  176. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anon

    The Left have been legitimizing, and employing, violence for more than a century and a half.

  177. MBlanc46 says:
    @Autochthon

    I do hope that Mr Daniels has been sufficiently chastened to never show his cowardly visage around here again.

  178. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    Watching some of the videos Antifa uploaded to Youtube after Charlottesville was instructive: people in costume, street entertainers, people laughing and joking. It was like a big street party. These people knew they weren’t in any danger from the big bad ‘Nazis’.

    The truth is that – contrary to all the hysterical shrieking to the contrary – ‘Nazis’ are harmless. Going on a ‘Nazi-hunt’ is the lefty equivalent of going on a company picnic: a fun day out for all the family.

  179. @Anon

    A long line of men, beginning perhaps in the F.U.S.A. at least as early as Herman Husband and the Regulators and Daniel Shays, arguably peaking with Robert Edward Lee….

  180. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sapwood

    Waiting….

  181. Corvinus says:
    @Tulip

    “The party of Jefferson-Jackson has historically been on the side of the slave owners. After the Civil War, all the former Confederates who formed the Klan were Democrats. Most of the Klansmen were probably Democrats. Most Democrats before Truman were fully on the side of White Supremacy.”

    You mean Southern Conservative Democrats.

  182. Voltara says:

    It was violent and the victim (in the video above, at least) was trying to keep things calm. The cowardly assailant hit his victim hard and targeted him because he was within reach. And he did it seven times. I am at a loss to understand how he could avoid jail time. Keeping people like him (practitioners of random violence) off the streets is the only legitimate reason to build prisons in the first place

  183. Lagertha says:
    @Autochthon

    Thanks for that! wonderful to hear that after decades.

  184. MarkinLA says:
    @jack daniels

    Remember the Minutemen on the border? They NEVER touched an illegal. They video taped their every move and only put water and food a few feet in front of the nearly dead illegals for fear that GWBs butt-boy Sutton would put them in jail for 20 years. That is what the Alt-Right is up against.

  185. @Anon

    Which is why we won in Afghanistan.

    I see this thread activated some ShareBlue socks.

  186. @Anonymous

    Give it time. No one saw Cromwell as Lord Protector when the ECR kicked off.

  187. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    I’m speaking to the Boomers here who think muh Constitution is anything but a paper shield.

    We have other plans.

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