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Will 2018 be the 15th straight season since Jason Sehorn retired after 2003 that all 64 NFL starting cornerbacks are black?

A college football website called Thank God It’s Saturday has “2018 WHITE CORNERBACK RANKINGS” for college players.

1. Justus Parker, Texas Tech
What a season for Justus.

Justus finished the year with 4 interceptions (including a crucial, game-changing interception against Texas), he was named All-Big 12 Second Team, and he was given a scholarship in December by Rob Gronkowski and Danny Amendola. Justus this year was named to the All-Big 12 Preseason Team and will be starting for Texas Tech again at the nickel spot.

Texas Tech, in the middle of nowhere, tends to specialize in white guys who get overlooked by bigger colleges, like Amendola and Wes Welker.

But after that you fall off to #2 Ashtyn Davis of Cal who got switched to safety.

 
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  1. Justus (just us?) Parker and Ashtyn both have a shot at being white corners in the NFL. As long as no pro scouts and GM’s look at their photos, their first names are definitely black enough to play corner.

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  2. DFH says:

    Justus

    ????????

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    #5 Ethan Bonner of Stanford is so white he appears to be about 14 years old:

    https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/938/119/5119938.jpg
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  3. Trevor H. says:

    15th straight season… that all 64 NFL starting cornerbacks are black

    Can you imagine the hue and cry if, well, you know.

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    If all were Jewish? There’d be some cries that it’s too white, yeah.
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  4. @DFH

    Justus
     
    ????????

    #5 Ethan Bonner of Stanford is so white he appears to be about 14 years old:

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    Whereas I'm not really sure Ashtyn passes the One-Drop Rule.

    http://image.santacruzsentinel.com/storyimage/NE/20171025/SPORTS/171029784/EP/1/1/EP-171029784.jpg
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Shouldn't there be a "Believe in something, even if..." message at the bottom of that photo?
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  5. KenH says:

    Not only are 100% of all starting cornerbacks in the NFL black but I believe 100% of the running backs are black or very close to it. There’s been a concerted effort to replace all NFL quarterbacks with bantus also but that project is slow going since black QB’s are lazier, less intelligent and struggle against better defenses and in the playoffs. That’s why teams with black quarterbacks usually bow out in the first round of the playoffs.

    Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and other white QB’s study lots of film and know how to read and counter different defensive looks.

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  6. Sunbeam says:

    Look, football is “degenerate” in a way.

    By that I mean that the game has evolved to the point where you have very, very specific requirements for playing certain positions. And if you don’t have those requirements in the player at that position, there is a well understand way to exploit that lack.

    Cornerback is one such position. You need to run the 40 in at least 4.5 seconds. You also need some “Length,” and be able to change directions on a dime.

    If your cornerback doesn’t have that, he is going to be exploited in P5 college football, and annihilated in the NFL.

    It’s not just fly patterns and taking the cornerback deep, if you can’t physically cover so much distance quickly enough, there are other things the offense can do to exploit you all day long.

    It is far less common for white players to meet the physical requirements at that position (and frankly cornerback is probably the hardest position to do so at for whites).

    Just the way it is. Personally I think you could find more white players who can play on the defensive line, but for the moment I’ll assume SEC football coaches know their jobs better than I do.

    Anyway if you want to call football “degenerate” for reasons besides what I mentioned, hey you might be right.

    But the current state of the game has evolved to this, and I personally don’t think at cornerback at least it is a conspiracy. Guys like Jason Sehorn are very, very uncommon.

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  7. Dwright says:

    I thought we all agreed no more football.

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  8. @Trevor H.

    15th straight season... that all 64 NFL starting cornerbacks are black
     
    Can you imagine the hue and cry if, well, you know.

    If all were Jewish? There’d be some cries that it’s too white, yeah.

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  9. snorlax says:
    @Steve Sailer
    #5 Ethan Bonner of Stanford is so white he appears to be about 14 years old:

    https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/938/119/5119938.jpg

    Whereas I’m not really sure Ashtyn passes the One-Drop Rule.

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    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

    http://i0.wp.com/www.dailycal.org/assets/uploads/2018/08/Ashtyn_Davis_27__Cal_FBC_C_20180621_144105_ADS.jpg
    , @Reg Cæsar
    There's #MeToo, and there's #TatToo.
    , @Stan Adams
    He looks a lot like his father:
    https://www.bartlett.com/locations/san-jose-ca/sean-davis
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  10. ….15th straight season… that all 64 NFL starting cornerbacks are black…

    Oy vey!

    What in the Great Spirit’s name is wrong with the NFL?

    It’s 2018! This would have been unacceptable in…. 2008!!
    It’s time for the NFL to start requiring all of it’s teams to try out at least 2 white, Jewish, Native American, Hispanic and/or Asian cornerbacks each season. It could be called the “Sehorn Rule”.
    Better yet, the “Sailer Rule”.

    NFL cornerbacks should look like America ‘dammit!!!

    We demand JUSTUS!!!!!

    *Poundz Fist*

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  11. Lot says:
    @snorlax
    Whereas I'm not really sure Ashtyn passes the One-Drop Rule.

    http://image.santacruzsentinel.com/storyimage/NE/20171025/SPORTS/171029784/EP/1/1/EP-171029784.jpg

    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

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    http://www.postavy.cz/foto/night-slasher-foto.jpg
    , @SonOfStrom
    Looks kind of like that mugshot of a young Sinatra:

    https://fineartamerica.com/featured/1938-young-frank-sinatra-mugshot-daniel-hagerman.html?product=art-print

    I.e. my guess is the blood has Italian.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

     

    Could pass for some of the Russians I've come across.
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  12. @Steve Sailer
    #5 Ethan Bonner of Stanford is so white he appears to be about 14 years old:

    https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/938/119/5119938.jpg

    Shouldn’t there be a “Believe in something, even if…” message at the bottom of that photo?

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  13. @Lot
    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

    http://i0.wp.com/www.dailycal.org/assets/uploads/2018/08/Ashtyn_Davis_27__Cal_FBC_C_20180621_144105_ADS.jpg

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  14. overlooked by bigger colleges, like Amendola and Wes Welker.

    I’ve never heard of Amendola College. Which conference is it in? And “Wes Welker U.” sounds like Bob Jones and Oral Roberts.

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    Okay....

    Texas Tech, in the middle of nowhere, tends to specialize in white guys, like Amendola and Wes Walker, who get overlooked by bigger colleges.

    Feel better bruh? I, you, and everyone else understand Steve's referent is white guys and not colleges. He's avoiding two subordinate clauses in one short sentence. Pedant.
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  15. @snorlax
    Whereas I'm not really sure Ashtyn passes the One-Drop Rule.

    http://image.santacruzsentinel.com/storyimage/NE/20171025/SPORTS/171029784/EP/1/1/EP-171029784.jpg

    There’s #MeToo, and there’s #TatToo.

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  16. National Football League

    Is that still around?

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    Is that still around?
     
    From June 2018:

    NFL popularity at new low, just 3 in 10 are ‘favorable’

    [...] According to an Economist/YouGov poll taken May 27-29 [2018], another 47 percent have an “unfavorable” view of the NFL.
     
    , @Reg Cæsar


    National Football League

     

    Is that still around?

     

    Kneeling and reeling.
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  17. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The SI article you linked to calls him a Safety.

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  18. Texas Tech also produced Zach Thomas, an undersized white middle line backer who had several all-pro seasons with the Dolphins.

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  19. @Lot
    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

    http://i0.wp.com/www.dailycal.org/assets/uploads/2018/08/Ashtyn_Davis_27__Cal_FBC_C_20180621_144105_ADS.jpg

    Looks kind of like that mugshot of a young Sinatra:

    https://fineartamerica.com/featured/1938-young-frank-sinatra-mugshot-daniel-hagerman.html?product=art-print

    I.e. my guess is the blood has Italian.

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    Following his victory over the Romans at Cannae, Hannibal and his merry Afro army roamed the Italian countryside for some 12 years inseminating every female encountered......hence the Southern Italian prevalence to this day of frizzy black hair and dark complexions. The Romans refused to engage Hannibal again in battle or to negotiate, merely following him around the countryside and plotting their revenge. Hannibal eventually got tired of the fun and returned to Carthage, not realizing his antics sealed the fate of the Carthaginian civilization. Today there is no sign Carthage ever existed....the Romans completely erased the once great city from history.
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  20. In related news, the Patriots, everyone’s favorite team of misfit toys, started white RB Rex Burkehead (of Nebraska Cornhuskers fame) at Running Back today.

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    Bill Belichick has to be some sort of idiot. At times he has THREE white guys in the backfield!
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  21. Abe says: • Website

    Finally! I have long wanted to post my pet theory about how liberalism is against thermodynamics, but demurred as not wanting to seem too off topic. (Ok. Calm down. Don’t get jittery. You can do this.)

    So, for example, there is Samantha Powers’s whack-a-doo doctrine of Right-To-Protect (R2P), where the US must constantly burn energy (money, lives, prestige) to fix the problems of Sh!thole World while of course never stooping so low as to do anything self-advantageous in its foreign policy (thereby injecting energy from outside the system back into it to prevent entropy and allow waste activity like R2P to continue).

    The best example of liberalism being counter to thermodynamics is the following, though: county government steps in to prevent a man from beating up his wife or abusing his kids, in effect using energy to bring about order (civilized society) that does not exist in nature (where the only order is weak submitting to the strong). State government then intervenes against county government to prevent the abuses of localities against non-locals, say corrupt sheriffs shaking-down passing motorists on made-up traffic violations. Then Federal government then intervenes against state governments (again expending energy in the form of all the resources needed to fund the FBI, Justice Dept.) to achieve an even higher-order level of organization, say to ensure racial egalitarianism or that girls receive the same level of athletics funding as boys. “It’s who we are”, etc., so the energy waste is “justified”. This is where Kennedy-era liberalism ends, as it at least implicitly understood that past the Federal level of government- that of the sovereign state- no general system of order, especially one premised on total equality (i.e. liberalism) is possible. Yet in Current Year liberalism the US Armed Forces, from which all order ultimately stems in the territory of the the US, must be liberal too, and not only that, must operate in a state of perfect liberalism at all times. So when our glorious gender-questioning, affirmative action-embracing, Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace military gets its butt kicked, and soldiers of the Marine Corps’s Gloria Steinem Grrrrl Brigade are captured and raped, the resulting break down of liberal order through might-makes-right barbarian entropy can quickly be rectified by the injection of more energy from the higher-order system of- wait, there’s no higher order system for US liberalism than the US military?? Waaaahhh!!!!!

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    Sorry, my comment was intended for the Justin Trudeau, Diversity Heat Death of the Universe thread.
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  22. Hail says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    National Football League
     
    Is that still around?

    Is that still around?

    From June 2018:

    NFL popularity at new low, just 3 in 10 are ‘favorable’

    [...] According to an Economist/YouGov poll taken May 27-29 [2018], another 47 percent have an “unfavorable” view of the NFL.

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    "NFL popularity at new low, just 3 in 10 are ‘favorable’"

    The NFL is banned from the Mateen household until further notice.

    After the traditional White House invite to meet the Super Bowl winner, the Eagles refused the invitation unless President Trump agreed to a dialog about police brutality against black bodies. He readily agreed to their demands, but then they snubbed him anyway, and so he, rightly, disinvited them.

    President Trump does this all the time. He agrees to or even exceeds his opponent's demands, then when they decline his offer, it demonstrates they were never interested in their alleged demands anyway (see DACA). The Eagles, and by extension the entire Negro Felons League, is butthurt because there's a White man in the White House. Though I suspected the black "protests" were anti-white tantrums all along, they have made it explicit.

    #NFLsoantiwhite
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  23. Obee says:

    Jason Sehorn also returned punts – until he got clobbered.

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    As did Welker and Amendola. Even after they got clobbered.
    , @ben tillman

    Jason Sehorn also returned punts – until he got clobbered.
     
    He also returned on-side kicks, including a return for a TD that cost ma $1000 or so in the playoffs. Still, when my friend (his wife's cousin) invited him to an Independence Day party a few years later, I shook his hand like a gentleman.
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  24. @Reg Cæsar

    overlooked by bigger colleges, like Amendola and Wes Welker.
     
    I've never heard of Amendola College. Which conference is it in? And "Wes Welker U." sounds like Bob Jones and Oral Roberts.

    Okay….

    Texas Tech, in the middle of nowhere, tends to specialize in white guys, like Amendola and Wes Walker, who get overlooked by bigger colleges.

    Feel better bruh? I, you, and everyone else understand Steve’s referent is white guys and not colleges. He’s avoiding two subordinate clauses in one short sentence. Pedant.

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    Pedant
     
    Just having fun. Lighten up.

    "Amendola" sounds almost Samoan. All those vowels.
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  25. No Justus, no peace!

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  26. @Hail

    Is that still around?
     
    From June 2018:

    NFL popularity at new low, just 3 in 10 are ‘favorable’

    [...] According to an Economist/YouGov poll taken May 27-29 [2018], another 47 percent have an “unfavorable” view of the NFL.
     

    “NFL popularity at new low, just 3 in 10 are ‘favorable’”

    The NFL is banned from the Mateen household until further notice.

    After the traditional White House invite to meet the Super Bowl winner, the Eagles refused the invitation unless President Trump agreed to a dialog about police brutality against black bodies. He readily agreed to their demands, but then they snubbed him anyway, and so he, rightly, disinvited them.

    President Trump does this all the time. He agrees to or even exceeds his opponent’s demands, then when they decline his offer, it demonstrates they were never interested in their alleged demands anyway (see DACA). The Eagles, and by extension the entire Negro Felons League, is butthurt because there’s a White man in the White House. Though I suspected the black “protests” were anti-white tantrums all along, they have made it explicit.

    #NFLsoantiwhite

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  27. @snorlax
    Whereas I'm not really sure Ashtyn passes the One-Drop Rule.

    http://image.santacruzsentinel.com/storyimage/NE/20171025/SPORTS/171029784/EP/1/1/EP-171029784.jpg
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    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/seinfeld/images/c/ce/The_wizard.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120908210644

    Elaine: What? You're not black?

    Boyfriend: No I am Irish. I thought you were Latina.
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  28. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I think the NFL is flirting with an inflection point. Despite its players being nearly 70% black, the league has so far successfully resisted becoming a culturally black/blue league like the NBA. That would be worse for the NFL than the NBA, because American football doesn’t have basketball’s popularity overseas.

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon’s rule for his new XFL, to ban felons. That would improve the league’s image while making its players a bit more diverse than now.

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    I liked the original XFL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcZZw7LJs0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFqTKNowq20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEgb7wZecrA

    They hit a lot harder in the original XFL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhooNktaQEI

    Remember the XFL scramble?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvN4mOkZ3fo
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon’s rule for his new XFL, to ban felons.
     
    It's certainly whitened the electorate in certain states. And the firearm license rolls as well.
    , @Brutusale
    It'll be interesting to see what happens when Brady finally hangs them up. While they're pushing black QBs to a fare-thee-well, they're smart enough to be casting about for a pretty white boy who'll win enough to take up Brady's mantle.
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  29. Just because the NFL can’t settle on a no kneeling policy or figure out what is and isn’t a tackle or a pass reception or not blow a whistle on every other play is no reason not to think that white males aren’t showing-up in stadiums because they are at the Mall buying Kaepernick gear.

    O, and didn’t the K man drop to his knees only after a blond surfer, Blaine Gabbert, took his starters job in San Francisco?

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  30. @Dave Pinsen
    I think the NFL is flirting with an inflection point. Despite its players being nearly 70% black, the league has so far successfully resisted becoming a culturally black/blue league like the NBA. That would be worse for the NFL than the NBA, because American football doesn't have basketball's popularity overseas.

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon's rule for his new XFL, to ban felons. That would improve the league's image while making its players a bit more diverse than now.

    I liked the original XFL.

    They hit a lot harder in the original XFL.

    Remember the XFL scramble?

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  31. @Lot
    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

    http://i0.wp.com/www.dailycal.org/assets/uploads/2018/08/Ashtyn_Davis_27__Cal_FBC_C_20180621_144105_ADS.jpg

    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

    Could pass for some of the Russians I’ve come across.

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    I realize now he reminds me of that famous photo of the blond 1/4 Abo boy with his mother and grandmother.
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  32. @AnotherDad

    National Football League
     
    Is that still around?

    National Football League

    Is that still around?

    Kneeling and reeling.

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  33. @Dave Pinsen
    I think the NFL is flirting with an inflection point. Despite its players being nearly 70% black, the league has so far successfully resisted becoming a culturally black/blue league like the NBA. That would be worse for the NFL than the NBA, because American football doesn't have basketball's popularity overseas.

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon's rule for his new XFL, to ban felons. That would improve the league's image while making its players a bit more diverse than now.

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon’s rule for his new XFL, to ban felons.

    It’s certainly whitened the electorate in certain states. And the firearm license rolls as well.

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    Felons are federally prohibited from firearms ownership in all US States and territories, unless they have been presidentially pardoned or have filed for and received a "relief from firearms disability".

    There have been constitutional questions as to whether this applies to firearms made entirely with one state, never having left and not being "in interstate commerce", to firearms made before 1898 or "firearms" not using metallic cartridge ammunition, i.e., muzzle loaders and cap and ball revolvers. I don't know what or how those cases were decided but someone else may know.

    Even if you can beat the federal prohibition that way, most states also prohibit felons and many misdemeanants from possessing or buying (it can sometimes be legal to keep one if already owned but not buy any others, in the case of misdemeanants) firearms or ammunition and these laws can be worse than the federal ones. In one state a felon can get one year in prison for every round of ammunition he is discovered with. Bought a house and someone left a brick of .22 LR in the attic? Sucks to be you!

    That said, FIP tends to be enforced strictly against whites and less so against blacks, since most all blacks have guns, felons or otherwise. Strict enforcement would put every black felon and DV offender in the federal pen and that would demolish the budget.
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  34. Pat Boyle says:

    Oh I don’t know. I think it more likely that soon all corner-backs in the NFL will be white and none black.

    The corner-back position is largely genetically determined. Blacks are better at that position and sprint foot races because of a higher ratio of fast twitch muscle fibers to slow. Slow fibers fatigue less quickly and in sports like weight lifting, that don’t need much speed, the record books show mostly whites.

    So when we learn how the increase the proportion of fast fibers in white athletes, anyone will be able to be as fast as the black guys. Actually we may also need to manipulate the breadth of the hips and the length of the legs. But that too should be possible soon.

    None of the genes that control these things seem to be polygenic like intelligence or height . It may be only a few SNPs that need to be found. If so it may be that CRISPR could make those edits in a fertilized egg.

    Then you would have a corner-back who would stand for the playing of the National Anthem.

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  35. Abe says: • Website
    @Abe
    Finally! I have long wanted to post my pet theory about how liberalism is against thermodynamics, but demurred as not wanting to seem too off topic. (Ok. Calm down. Don’t get jittery. You can do this.)

    So, for example, there is Samantha Powers’s whack-a-doo doctrine of Right-To-Protect (R2P), where the US must constantly burn energy (money, lives, prestige) to fix the problems of Sh!thole World while of course never stooping so low as to do anything self-advantageous in its foreign policy (thereby injecting energy from outside the system back into it to prevent entropy and allow waste activity like R2P to continue).

    The best example of liberalism being counter to thermodynamics is the following, though: county government steps in to prevent a man from beating up his wife or abusing his kids, in effect using energy to bring about order (civilized society) that does not exist in nature (where the only order is weak submitting to the strong). State government then intervenes against county government to prevent the abuses of localities against non-locals, say corrupt sheriffs shaking-down passing motorists on made-up traffic violations. Then Federal government then intervenes against state governments (again expending energy in the form of all the resources needed to fund the FBI, Justice Dept.) to achieve an even higher-order level of organization, say to ensure racial egalitarianism or that girls receive the same level of athletics funding as boys. “It’s who we are”, etc., so the energy waste is “justified”. This is where Kennedy-era liberalism ends, as it at least implicitly understood that past the Federal level of government- that of the sovereign state- no general system of order, especially one premised on total equality (i.e. liberalism) is possible. Yet in Current Year liberalism the US Armed Forces, from which all order ultimately stems in the territory of the the US, must be liberal too, and not only that, must operate in a state of perfect liberalism at all times. So when our glorious gender-questioning, affirmative action-embracing, Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace military gets its butt kicked, and soldiers of the Marine Corps’s Gloria Steinem Grrrrl Brigade are captured and raped, the resulting break down of liberal order through might-makes-right barbarian entropy can quickly be rectified by the injection of more energy from the higher-order system of- wait, there’s no higher order system for US liberalism than the US military?? Waaaahhh!!!!!

    Sorry, my comment was intended for the Justin Trudeau, Diversity Heat Death of the Universe thread.

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  36. It’s not just the NFL that’s declining in popularity. From what people tell me, high school sports are hurting pretty badly too. Attendance is pretty weak at lots of games these days.

    Here’s an interesting personal anecdote.

    On Friday, I went to see a distant relative’s son play in a high school football game. Each individual high school has over 2,000 students.

    You would assume the place would be packed. Combined, both high schools have about 4,500 students. Then there are the parents and relatives of the football players, cheerleaders, and coaching staff.

    The interesting thing was how lackluster the turnout was for the game. Combined, both sides had about 300 people in the stands. When I looked around the bleachers, I observed a large amount of empty space.

    It’s not like the students were busy. The schools just opened a few days ago and I doubt anyone has much work to do yet. Even if they did, it’s not like anyone actually does anything productive on a Friday night. The area is pretty densely populated too and the visiting team was from only a few miles away, so I’d assume hardly anyone had to commute more than a few miles.

    You would think that on the first Friday after the high schools started up, people would be surging into the stands to see their teams play. If not to support the team, at least for the social experience of hanging out with their fellow classmates and figuring out whose house the after-game party would be held at.

    If you assume that each football team member brought at least 1-2 relatives to the game, the majority of the people in the bleachers were probably related to the people on the field. Which means hardly anyone from the student body and local community (except players and parents) came out to the game. I’d be surprised if more than 100 students&locals came out for the game.

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    In many areas the kind of people who play football don’t go to government school anymore. The SE + Texas obviously the big exception.
    , @Anon
    Not sure about football spectators, but youth participation is down due to the concussion problem.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726124-report-shows-continuing-drop-in-high-school-football-players

    Contrary evidence that all youth sports is declining, sure to be blamed on the "racial wealth gap"

    https://www.athleticbusiness.com/high-school/youth-participation-in-team-sports-on-the-decline.html

    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don't have children currently in the schools. This hasn't been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.
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  37. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He may just look an unfrozen caveman because of high prenatal androgens.

     

    Could pass for some of the Russians I've come across.

    I realize now he reminds me of that famous photo of the blond 1/4 Abo boy with his mother and grandmother.

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  38. Lot says:
    @Stan Adams
    He looks a lot like his father:
    https://www.bartlett.com/locations/san-jose-ca/sean-davis

    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/seinfeld/images/c/ce/The_wizard.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120908210644

    Elaine: What? You’re not black?

    Boyfriend: No I am Irish. I thought you were Latina.

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    The mother has a Jewish name, but it seems to be from her second marriage:
    https://blogs.uoregon.edu/sojctrack/2017/05/14/ashtyn-davis-wins-pac-12-mens-110-meter-hurdles/
    https://www.westernlimited.com/about-us/leadership/

    Her maiden name is unusual. Roger is presumably her father:
    http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/santacruzsentinel/obituary.aspx?n=mark-robert-ingli&pid=91991086&referrer=0&preview=false

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  39. @JohnnyWalker123
    It's not just the NFL that's declining in popularity. From what people tell me, high school sports are hurting pretty badly too. Attendance is pretty weak at lots of games these days.

    Here's an interesting personal anecdote.

    On Friday, I went to see a distant relative's son play in a high school football game. Each individual high school has over 2,000 students.

    You would assume the place would be packed. Combined, both high schools have about 4,500 students. Then there are the parents and relatives of the football players, cheerleaders, and coaching staff.

    The interesting thing was how lackluster the turnout was for the game. Combined, both sides had about 300 people in the stands. When I looked around the bleachers, I observed a large amount of empty space.

    It's not like the students were busy. The schools just opened a few days ago and I doubt anyone has much work to do yet. Even if they did, it's not like anyone actually does anything productive on a Friday night. The area is pretty densely populated too and the visiting team was from only a few miles away, so I'd assume hardly anyone had to commute more than a few miles.

    You would think that on the first Friday after the high schools started up, people would be surging into the stands to see their teams play. If not to support the team, at least for the social experience of hanging out with their fellow classmates and figuring out whose house the after-game party would be held at.

    If you assume that each football team member brought at least 1-2 relatives to the game, the majority of the people in the bleachers were probably related to the people on the field. Which means hardly anyone from the student body and local community (except players and parents) came out to the game. I'd be surprised if more than 100 students&locals came out for the game.

    In many areas the kind of people who play football don’t go to government school anymore. The SE + Texas obviously the big exception.

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    In many areas the kind of people who play football don’t go to government school anymore. The SE + Texas obviously the big exception.

     

    Private schools enrollment only accounts for about 10% of students. That figure has only fluctuated slightly since the 60s, with a small recent decline. So I don't think that'd explain the poor attendance at the games.

    There's actually no shortage of people who want to play HS football and basketball in my area. There's a shortage of people who actually want to watch the games. It's pretty much just parents and relatives these days.

    I suppose the rural South and Texas might be exceptions. Even there, I'd bet Odessa is very different from what you find in Houston or Dallas.
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  40. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Okay....

    Texas Tech, in the middle of nowhere, tends to specialize in white guys, like Amendola and Wes Walker, who get overlooked by bigger colleges.

    Feel better bruh? I, you, and everyone else understand Steve's referent is white guys and not colleges. He's avoiding two subordinate clauses in one short sentence. Pedant.

    Pedant

    Just having fun. Lighten up.

    “Amendola” sounds almost Samoan. All those vowels.

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  41. @Desiderius
    In many areas the kind of people who play football don’t go to government school anymore. The SE + Texas obviously the big exception.

    In many areas the kind of people who play football don’t go to government school anymore. The SE + Texas obviously the big exception.

    Private schools enrollment only accounts for about 10% of students. That figure has only fluctuated slightly since the 60s, with a small recent decline. So I don’t think that’d explain the poor attendance at the games.

    There’s actually no shortage of people who want to play HS football and basketball in my area. There’s a shortage of people who actually want to watch the games. It’s pretty much just parents and relatives these days.

    I suppose the rural South and Texas might be exceptions. Even there, I’d bet Odessa is very different from what you find in Houston or Dallas.

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  42. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    It's not just the NFL that's declining in popularity. From what people tell me, high school sports are hurting pretty badly too. Attendance is pretty weak at lots of games these days.

    Here's an interesting personal anecdote.

    On Friday, I went to see a distant relative's son play in a high school football game. Each individual high school has over 2,000 students.

    You would assume the place would be packed. Combined, both high schools have about 4,500 students. Then there are the parents and relatives of the football players, cheerleaders, and coaching staff.

    The interesting thing was how lackluster the turnout was for the game. Combined, both sides had about 300 people in the stands. When I looked around the bleachers, I observed a large amount of empty space.

    It's not like the students were busy. The schools just opened a few days ago and I doubt anyone has much work to do yet. Even if they did, it's not like anyone actually does anything productive on a Friday night. The area is pretty densely populated too and the visiting team was from only a few miles away, so I'd assume hardly anyone had to commute more than a few miles.

    You would think that on the first Friday after the high schools started up, people would be surging into the stands to see their teams play. If not to support the team, at least for the social experience of hanging out with their fellow classmates and figuring out whose house the after-game party would be held at.

    If you assume that each football team member brought at least 1-2 relatives to the game, the majority of the people in the bleachers were probably related to the people on the field. Which means hardly anyone from the student body and local community (except players and parents) came out to the game. I'd be surprised if more than 100 students&locals came out for the game.

    Not sure about football spectators, but youth participation is down due to the concussion problem.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726124-report-shows-continuing-drop-in-high-school-football-players

    Contrary evidence that all youth sports is declining, sure to be blamed on the “racial wealth gap”

    https://www.athleticbusiness.com/high-school/youth-participation-in-team-sports-on-the-decline.html

    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don’t have children currently in the schools. This hasn’t been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.

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    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

     

    That'd be my guess.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don’t have children currently in the schools. This hasn’t been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.

     

    There was a time, not too long ago, when the Autumn Friday night social scene revolved around the local HS football game and the post-game after party. Outside the rural parts of Texas and the Southeast, I don't think this is true anymore.

    "School spirit" seems close to nonexistent among the younger crowd. It's not just high school students. Even at the college level, lots of younger people seem totally disinterested in supporting their football and basketball teams.

    Interestingly, middle-aged and older people often be pretty hardcore fans. I see a lot of them wearing football jerseys and hanging out at sports bars on Sunday. Even during extreme weather, you'll see some older fans out at the college and pro games.
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  43. @Lot
    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/seinfeld/images/c/ce/The_wizard.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120908210644

    Elaine: What? You're not black?

    Boyfriend: No I am Irish. I thought you were Latina.
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  44. Haven’t watched it in years. Are they still doing pink uniforms and balls for breast cancer? Does that add to or diminish the anti America kneeling protests?

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  45. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon’s rule for his new XFL, to ban felons.
     
    It's certainly whitened the electorate in certain states. And the firearm license rolls as well.

    Felons are federally prohibited from firearms ownership in all US States and territories, unless they have been presidentially pardoned or have filed for and received a “relief from firearms disability”.

    There have been constitutional questions as to whether this applies to firearms made entirely with one state, never having left and not being “in interstate commerce”, to firearms made before 1898 or “firearms” not using metallic cartridge ammunition, i.e., muzzle loaders and cap and ball revolvers. I don’t know what or how those cases were decided but someone else may know.

    Even if you can beat the federal prohibition that way, most states also prohibit felons and many misdemeanants from possessing or buying (it can sometimes be legal to keep one if already owned but not buy any others, in the case of misdemeanants) firearms or ammunition and these laws can be worse than the federal ones. In one state a felon can get one year in prison for every round of ammunition he is discovered with. Bought a house and someone left a brick of .22 LR in the attic? Sucks to be you!

    That said, FIP tends to be enforced strictly against whites and less so against blacks, since most all blacks have guns, felons or otherwise. Strict enforcement would put every black felon and DV offender in the federal pen and that would demolish the budget.

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  46. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    This man is a convicted felon that literally killed a man driving while intoxicated.

    The liberals call him morally superior to us

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  47. nsa says:
    @SonOfStrom
    Looks kind of like that mugshot of a young Sinatra:

    https://fineartamerica.com/featured/1938-young-frank-sinatra-mugshot-daniel-hagerman.html?product=art-print

    I.e. my guess is the blood has Italian.

    Following his victory over the Romans at Cannae, Hannibal and his merry Afro army roamed the Italian countryside for some 12 years inseminating every female encountered……hence the Southern Italian prevalence to this day of frizzy black hair and dark complexions. The Romans refused to engage Hannibal again in battle or to negotiate, merely following him around the countryside and plotting their revenge. Hannibal eventually got tired of the fun and returned to Carthage, not realizing his antics sealed the fate of the Carthaginian civilization. Today there is no sign Carthage ever existed….the Romans completely erased the once great city from history.

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    Except for coins with Hannibal's rather Taleb-like face on them.
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  48. @nsa
    Following his victory over the Romans at Cannae, Hannibal and his merry Afro army roamed the Italian countryside for some 12 years inseminating every female encountered......hence the Southern Italian prevalence to this day of frizzy black hair and dark complexions. The Romans refused to engage Hannibal again in battle or to negotiate, merely following him around the countryside and plotting their revenge. Hannibal eventually got tired of the fun and returned to Carthage, not realizing his antics sealed the fate of the Carthaginian civilization. Today there is no sign Carthage ever existed....the Romans completely erased the once great city from history.

    Except for coins with Hannibal’s rather Taleb-like face on them.

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  49. @Anon
    Not sure about football spectators, but youth participation is down due to the concussion problem.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726124-report-shows-continuing-drop-in-high-school-football-players

    Contrary evidence that all youth sports is declining, sure to be blamed on the "racial wealth gap"

    https://www.athleticbusiness.com/high-school/youth-participation-in-team-sports-on-the-decline.html

    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don't have children currently in the schools. This hasn't been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.

    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

    That’d be my guess.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don’t have children currently in the schools. This hasn’t been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.

    There was a time, not too long ago, when the Autumn Friday night social scene revolved around the local HS football game and the post-game after party. Outside the rural parts of Texas and the Southeast, I don’t think this is true anymore.

    “School spirit” seems close to nonexistent among the younger crowd. It’s not just high school students. Even at the college level, lots of younger people seem totally disinterested in supporting their football and basketball teams.

    Interestingly, middle-aged and older people often be pretty hardcore fans. I see a lot of them wearing football jerseys and hanging out at sports bars on Sunday. Even during extreme weather, you’ll see some older fans out at the college and pro games.

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    Even in the late ‘90s, no one in my (admittedly small) social circle gave a crap about our HS football team. I wouldn’t have been able to name a single player.

    Now, college was a different story. Football was foremost on everyone’s minds.

    Last Saturday night, I was sitting in a nearly-deserted restaurant listening to a couple of boomers complain that the Miami game wasn’t being shown on TV. (It wasn’t the most exciting contest. The final score was 77-0.) One of them was despondent until I showed him how to download the ESPN app so he could watch the game on his phone. He was totally blown away - “I had no idea you could do that!”

    At one point, he went outside to get something from his car and then rushed back in, screaming, “It’s gone!” I tried to explain that he had to be logged into the restaurant’s Wi-Fi (U-verse) to gain access to the live video feed, but he didn’t seem to understand what I was talking about.

    The youngest guy there had no interest in the game whatsoever.
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  50. Well, you know what they say NFL really stands for….

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    Well, you know what they say NFL really stands for….
     
    Dave Ramsey says it means "Not For Long". But I have a different suspicion, and that's that the N stands for the same thing it does for in "Pontiac".
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  51. Brutusale says:
    @SonOfStrom
    In related news, the Patriots, everyone’s favorite team of misfit toys, started white RB Rex Burkehead (of Nebraska Cornhuskers fame) at Running Back today.

    Bill Belichick has to be some sort of idiot. At times he has THREE white guys in the backfield!

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  52. Brutusale says:
    @Obee
    Jason Sehorn also returned punts - until he got clobbered.

    As did Welker and Amendola. Even after they got clobbered.

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  53. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I think the NFL is flirting with an inflection point. Despite its players being nearly 70% black, the league has so far successfully resisted becoming a culturally black/blue league like the NBA. That would be worse for the NFL than the NBA, because American football doesn't have basketball's popularity overseas.

    Maybe the NFL should consider borrowing Vince McMahon's rule for his new XFL, to ban felons. That would improve the league's image while making its players a bit more diverse than now.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens when Brady finally hangs them up. While they’re pushing black QBs to a fare-thee-well, they’re smart enough to be casting about for a pretty white boy who’ll win enough to take up Brady’s mantle.

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  54. @JohnnyWalker123

    On a generation basis, Gen Z consumes less alcohol and has less sex at the high school age than their X parents and the preceding Millenials did. Perhaps this antisocial trend carries over into spectator sports as well.

     

    That'd be my guess.

    In some parts of the country high school ballgames attract a crowd of locals that don’t have children currently in the schools. This hasn’t been the experience in my Midwestern suburb, which built a new high school stadium not that long ago.

     

    There was a time, not too long ago, when the Autumn Friday night social scene revolved around the local HS football game and the post-game after party. Outside the rural parts of Texas and the Southeast, I don't think this is true anymore.

    "School spirit" seems close to nonexistent among the younger crowd. It's not just high school students. Even at the college level, lots of younger people seem totally disinterested in supporting their football and basketball teams.

    Interestingly, middle-aged and older people often be pretty hardcore fans. I see a lot of them wearing football jerseys and hanging out at sports bars on Sunday. Even during extreme weather, you'll see some older fans out at the college and pro games.

    Even in the late ‘90s, no one in my (admittedly small) social circle gave a crap about our HS football team. I wouldn’t have been able to name a single player.

    Now, college was a different story. Football was foremost on everyone’s minds.

    Last Saturday night, I was sitting in a nearly-deserted restaurant listening to a couple of boomers complain that the Miami game wasn’t being shown on TV. (It wasn’t the most exciting contest. The final score was 77-0.) One of them was despondent until I showed him how to download the ESPN app so he could watch the game on his phone. He was totally blown away – “I had no idea you could do that!”

    At one point, he went outside to get something from his car and then rushed back in, screaming, “It’s gone!” I tried to explain that he had to be logged into the restaurant’s Wi-Fi (U-verse) to gain access to the live video feed, but he didn’t seem to understand what I was talking about.

    The youngest guy there had no interest in the game whatsoever.

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  55. @Obee
    Jason Sehorn also returned punts - until he got clobbered.

    Jason Sehorn also returned punts – until he got clobbered.

    He also returned on-side kicks, including a return for a TD that cost ma $1000 or so in the playoffs. Still, when my friend (his wife’s cousin) invited him to an Independence Day party a few years later, I shook his hand like a gentleman.

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  56. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist
    Well, you know what they say NFL really stands for....

    Well, you know what they say NFL really stands for….

    Dave Ramsey says it means “Not For Long”. But I have a different suspicion, and that’s that the N stands for the same thing it does for in “Pontiac”.

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    L is for Lease.
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  57. @Anonymous

    Well, you know what they say NFL really stands for….
     
    Dave Ramsey says it means "Not For Long". But I have a different suspicion, and that's that the N stands for the same thing it does for in "Pontiac".

    L is for Lease.

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