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From The New Yorker, here’s the opening sentence by its editor David Remnick of his review of Hillary Clinton’s book What Happened:

Still Here

Hillary Clinton looks back in anger.

David Remnick September 13, 2017 4:17 PM

Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history, is not the first candidate to capture the popular vote but lose the election.

If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.

 
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  1. These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.

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    • Replies: @AM

    This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.
     
    Yep. Happy to join the female part of the shame squad if we can get there.
    , @Alec Leamas

    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.
     
    Well, it cost that horrible woman the Presidency of the United States and she hasn't stopped yet.

    I prefer these ugly truths to seductive lies. We can fight them and win when they tell the truth. Why discourage that?
    , @Guy de Champlagne
    It's a winning political strategy it's just that Clinton isn't a very good politician. It makes far more sense to just jettison Clinton than change anything more substantial.
    , @bartok
    I wouldn't worry about women.
    Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men.
    , @Bernardista
    They don't listen. The Kool-Aid is too powerful.
    White male celebs are doing it as well now, which is just as nauseating.
    , @Stan d Mute

    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.
     
    Many of them are unwanted by white men. And white men have been legally castrated for three decades at least so they leave rather than lead such women who can attract men.

    My solution would be to take them to Detroit and make them walk (sans cell phone) down Grand River, Cass, or any other street outside a minuscule few blocks downtown. At night. If they survive they'll either be cured or incurable. They worship the African, let the Africans have them.
    , @SMK
    Why single out "white women." left-liberal white males are just as bad, and worse in that they have far more power and influence.
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  2. Rifleman says:

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,

    But she still got her “old White lady azz” handed to her by a unaccomplished black male from Chicago in 2008.

    Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about.

    So much for your Coalition of the Fringes, Steve. Obama’s “fringe” gave him more votes than any White man in US history.

    The Obama Core is expanding, not receding.

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.

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    • Replies: @AM

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    That's not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    My husband and I have talked about this at length. Because the media holds the megaphone, they can convince us we're alone. People with any sort of sense at this point knows the media is lieing or least unreliable. But because the media is so collectively loud, it easy to assume that you're the odd ball, thinking odd thoughts. I find myself getting sucked into the mindset. But we're really not the fringe.

    The elections keep showing that it's not the case. I suspect if we don't get into WWIII, Trump will expand his coalition for the next election. Sane Clinton voters I know were mostly worried Trump was unreliable. 1 term of getting things done will change that. Meanwhile that same media is getting progressively insaner by the day. At some point, anyone with an ounce of reason flip sides, especially if the conservatives seem like the tolerant and open (or at least sane) ones by comparison.
    , @PhDPepper
    "Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about."

    It's notable that the vast majority of Dems firmly believe lower black turnout was due to voter suppression. They think it had nothing to do with Clinton. Scott Walker (man) and Kris Kobach (man) stole the election, along with the Russians (all men), the FBI (all men too), and suburban Pennsylvanian men haranguing their wives and girlfriends. And let's not forget Anthony Weiner! And do you know what else they had in common? They were white men.
    , @Stan d Mute

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    I assume you're just as aware then of how incredibly dangerous this is becoming and how fast it's worsening? When a "fringe" is the military (combat) class and is despised and spat upon by a majority comprised of aliens and our own women, what's the likely outcome? Can this be averted? How?

    For decades I've advocated for a peaceful solution to racial problems that are clearly intractable. Repatriation of Africa's stolen children with enough cash to live like an African King or Queen makes enormous sense for all. Punishing American traitors who entice and employ illegal invaders is just common sense - the workers would go home if unable to find jobs while the cops could then effectively target the more serious criminals who would remain. But I now wonder and fear the point of no return may have passed and now the most dangerous and best armed men on the planet are backed into a corner with only one way to go (two really and so far it looks like a lot are taking the second way).
  3. Hockamaw says:

    David Remnick is such a bore with his whole hand wringing moralizer schtick. He’s running the New Yorker into the ground as well.

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    • Agree: slumber_j
    • Replies: @Anon
    All writers who once had talent will go downhill the minute they succumb to the urge to drool sycophantically over a politician. Once you get into the habit of lying and shilling, and really, really liking that extra money you earn, the habit isn't breakable. The urge to anoint and worship a mortal god-king destroys more writers than alcohol.
  4. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Jewish conclusion from all this:

    “Our globalist whore would be president if we had allowed in MORE demographic imperialists to use against whites.”

    Btw, war on the men or women of a race is a war on the entire race.

    White women cannot exist without white fathers, and white men cannot exist without white mothers.

    If we attack Iranian men, we are also attacking Iranian women and Iranian children. Without Iranian men, there would be no Iranian women.

    Feminism as movement for more rights for women was good. But feminism as core ideology is ridiculous. A sex/gender cannot be a core ideology. If white women all move to an island to have their world, it will vanish after they die out. Women cannot create life on their own.
    Also, the notion that a German woman has more in common with Peruvian women than with their fathers, husbands, and sons is ludicrous. Feminism says a German woman should identify more with women around the world than with her father, brother, husband, sons, etc. Feel closer to strange women of other races and cultures than with own family or kin or nation.

    Core identity must be race/ethnicity/culture, and the source of life is union of man and woman.

    An identity that is all male or all female is dumb.

    Granted, there are male interests and female interests, but the core unit is the family, union of man and woman, and community is the linking of families of shared identity and culture.

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  5. Bernie’s proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

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    • Replies: @27 year old
    Wouldn't the deal be more likely to be rejected by republicans like John McCain etc? The dems at least want single payer healthcare. Republicans don't want to deport illegals AND they don't want single payer. Because they already have gold plated government care for themselves.
    , @al-Gharaniq
    Dems probably would have run if Sanders had been Dem candidate and Hillary VP (or vice versa). Why they didn't run him, who knows. We'll see if they learn their lesson in the 2024 election.
    , @Prof. Woland
    That has about as much a chance getting through the House and Senate as HillaryCare did.
    , @Anon
    You are right as rain, but I doubt Trump can figure this out, and meanwhile he's been busy purging his administration of anyone who has the nation's best interests at heart.
    , @Randal

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.
     
    This should surely be a winning combination - the stronger parts of nationalism and socialism combined. (It's a shame the nattiest version of the name combination has been previously used.)

    Nationalised healthcare can be very appealing if it is justified on the basis of national solidarity rather than (or indeed as well as) the real Marxist motivation of taking stuff from resented richer people at every opportunity. It can only work anyway with proper border controls, otherwise there is no real nation in the long run.

    For the US, it seems likely a nationalised healthcare system would be a small price to pay for the wider benefits of sweeping away the existing globalism of the political elite.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.
     
    I think you're misreading the situation and Trump's base.

    It's no coincidence that the ACA was pushed during a period of a contracting economy because it artificially inflated numbers of uninsured - health insurance is so linked to employment, an economic catastrophe and attendant job and employment crisis put a lot of people off of insurance or made it more tenuous. It's likely that Obama knew that an improving economy early in his first term (when everything could still be blamed on W) would undermine the argument for a perennial giant Democrat wishlist item.

    What Americans generally and Trump's base specifically want is the ability to earn enough to afford health insurance for themselves and their families. Grow the economy, raise wages and benefits, allow dispirited whites in flyover country to regain their sense of purpose and worth through productive work that allows the men to support families. They don't want "free" stuff.

    In any event you'll NEVER outbid the Democrats with regard to goodies to give away. It's a fool's errand to try.
    , @nebulafox
    The GOP Establishment is really, really lucky that Trump is ultimately what he appeared to be all along: a shallow, lazy, corrupt, plutocratically inclined former reality TV star who will orient in the direction of the people who have his ear, flatter him, use big, impressive sounding words, and offer him the path of least resistance.
    , @AndrewR
    It would split the GOP because of Muh Free Market
    , @MBlanc46
    Was there a "health care mess" before Obama torpedoed the system in 2009?
    , @El Dato

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.
     
    It's not money which is needed. You may notice that money is currently being printed up whenever someone has an itch to scratch. It's infrastructure, medical personnel (capable and not forced to do consultations at low, low prices), nurses, universities, waiting rooms, planning, correctly-seized administration, maintenance, drugs not sold at high, high prices and on and on and on.

    And finally, taxpayers. Yeah.
  6. inertial says:

    Hillary would love to be able to say that she had won “more votes than anyone” (a meaningless measure given population growth) but Obama got more. But she couldn’t just say “I got more votes than anyone…except Obama.” She had to phrase it in her own charming way.

    The Democrats now have an obligation to preserve Hillary’s record, so they must never nominate a white male again.

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    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    The dead turned out in droves for The Hit-man of Mena: https://www.google.com/search?q=more+voters+than+residents&oq=more+voter&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.7910j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Tangential but germane: https://www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-thinks-orwells-1984-was-about-the-need-to-trust-authority/

    The Onion weighs in on Modern de Medici's delusional fog: http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870
    , @Autochthon

    [T]o say that she had won “more votes than anyone” [is] a meaningless measure given population growth....
     
    Precisely. By that dopey yardstick Danielle Steele is probably a more important author than Aristotle was, and Madonna Ciccione is probably a more talented musician than Johanne Bach (how many people attended his performances, anyhow, that loser...?).
  7. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/century-old-francis-scott-key-monument-defaced-with-racist-anthem-in-baltimore/article/2634255

    http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/exorcist9990/images/1/17/Screenshot-lrg-11.png/revision/latest?cb=20140616135240

    This antifa and SJW stuff is a satanic kind of possession. A hysteria, a fever, a dementia. These are kids who weren’t taught critical thinking but critical theory (via pop culture). These sick kids are like the possessed girl in THE EXORCIST. They think they are being free and liberated but they are possessed and under the control of some sick virus that animates them.

    In a way, the monstrous are attracted to the ‘monstrous’. They are destructive, hateful, and vicious. They get their thrills like the thugs in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. They are into anarcho-punk culture. But if they just acted like thugs, they would just be thugs and criminals. So, to justify their monstrous drives, they make believe it’s a war on Monsters such as ‘nazis’ and ‘kkk’.

    In fighting ‘monsters’, their own monstrosity is justified. But US government does the same. In pretending to fight ‘monsters’ in ‘new hitlers’, it wages all these horrible wars.
    It’s like Godzilla’s destructiveness is justified by fighting other monsters.

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    • Replies: @bartok
    You're making Communism sound very mysterious.
    Communists didn't go away in 1989. They just started pushing on other doors (Cultural Marxism).
    If you see 'protesters' or 'activists' know that they are Communists or paid by Communists.
    , @Pericles

    This antifa and SJW stuff is a satanic kind of possession. A hysteria, a fever, a dementia.

     

    But they obviously also operate with the sanction of the political establishment, e.g., Terry McAuliffe, Mike Signer et many al.
  8. The highest vote total in history! Take THAT, James A. Garfield, with your paltry 4.4 million votes! Up yours, William Henry Harrison – 1.2 million votes, who do you think you are?

    Also, The Hunger Games had a higher gross than Jaws when not adjusted for inflation.

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    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Logan
    OTOH, if adjusted for inflation, Gone With The Wind, which is in the process of being banned, is the highest-grossing movie of all time.
  9. Achilles says:

    Remnick:

    She lost because of the tactical blunders of her campaign. She lost because she could never find a language, a thematic focus, or a campaigning persona that could convince enough struggling working Americans that she, and not a cartoonish plutocrat, was their champion. She lost because of the forces of racism, misogyny, and nativism that Trump expertly aroused. And she lost because of external forces (Vladimir Putin, Julian Assange, James Comey) that were beyond her control and are not yet fully understood.

    Yep. Had nothing to do with immigration, terrible trade deals, endless war incompetently managed or her crooked ruling-class style of politics. It’s just she never found the language to condemn Trump’s deplorable supporters — and that lying son of a bitch white man Comey!

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    • Replies: @guest
    I'm at a loss for how Comey is an external force. Is he an extra-terrestrial? (And in that alien culture, are backdated secret diaries cobbled together after the fact considered the same as ones written in the normal fashion? And do people besides little girls keep them?)
  10. AM says:
    @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.

    Yep. Happy to join the female part of the shame squad if we can get there.

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  11. AM says:
    @Rifleman

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,
     
    But she still got her "old White lady azz" handed to her by a unaccomplished black male from Chicago in 2008.

    Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about.

    So much for your Coalition of the Fringes, Steve. Obama's "fringe" gave him more votes than any White man in US history.

    The Obama Core is expanding, not receding.

    As a Trump voter I'm well aware of that and realize that "my people" are America's new and future "fringe".

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.

    That’s not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    My husband and I have talked about this at length. Because the media holds the megaphone, they can convince us we’re alone. People with any sort of sense at this point knows the media is lieing or least unreliable. But because the media is so collectively loud, it easy to assume that you’re the odd ball, thinking odd thoughts. I find myself getting sucked into the mindset. But we’re really not the fringe.

    The elections keep showing that it’s not the case. I suspect if we don’t get into WWIII, Trump will expand his coalition for the next election. Sane Clinton voters I know were mostly worried Trump was unreliable. 1 term of getting things done will change that. Meanwhile that same media is getting progressively insaner by the day. At some point, anyone with an ounce of reason flip sides, especially if the conservatives seem like the tolerant and open (or at least sane) ones by comparison.

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    • Replies: @Rifleman

    That’s not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.
     
    You are missing the point. The Obama Core is not only non-White people. And the Trump base is not the totality of the White vote.

    The Obama Core includes a high percentage of highly educated, well off White people.

    And a not insignificant number of White people HATE Trump and his base. And those haters are prominent in media, academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, almost the entire, heavily White US west coastal areas. As well as New York, New England and the DC area.

    Those White people are fundamental to the Obama core and they seethe with hatred for Trump and his White supporters.


    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    When I said "my people" I didn't mean White people, I meant Trump voting American "nationalists".

    Some of the "whitest" (in the worst sense of the genetic term) White people hate Trump and the Bannon agenda more than anyone.

    You can't get "whiter" than Michael Moore, Stephen King, Steven Colbert, John Oliver or Rosie O'Donnell.

    , @Anon
    You type a lot, but most of it is wishful thinking. I don't object really but you could stand to study demographics for a few minutes.
    , @Kevin C.

    That’s not true, at least not right now.
     
    Yeah, it kind of is true. Read up on some of the basic data on American demographics, particularly the birth rates and the age distributions, and look up "population momentum". Barring mass expulsions (including a non-trivial number of non-white citizens) or other forms of outright ethnic cleansing, non-Hispanic whites becoming a minority of the US population within a few decades is inevitable.
  12. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Hockamaw
    David Remnick is such a bore with his whole hand wringing moralizer schtick. He's running the New Yorker into the ground as well.

    All writers who once had talent will go downhill the minute they succumb to the urge to drool sycophantically over a politician. Once you get into the habit of lying and shilling, and really, really liking that extra money you earn, the habit isn’t breakable. The urge to anoint and worship a mortal god-king destroys more writers than alcohol.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    "To be paid for opinions corrupts; and to be paid for particular opinions corrupts absolutely."

    --Aaron Haspel
  13. syonredux says:

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.

    Omigod. Putin had a “cyberarmy” spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical…..

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    • Replies: @Achilles

    a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation
     
    Could 'Steve Sailer' be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    If not, then how come we never see this 'Steve Sailer' person included among the pundits opining on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or the mainstream news networks?
    , @Lot
    The only confirmed "fake news" guy I ever saw was some Macedonian guy in his early 20's who completely made social-media-friendly stuff up to appeal to prole conservatives on facebook and made about $50,000 a year from google ads, like a cross between drudge report, buzzfeed, and weekly world news.
    , @Anonymous
    Hundreds!...perhaps....THOUSANDS!!!

    I see Dr. Evil in my mind saying 'one million dollars'

    I had no idea Putin was quite that dastardly. Am I crazy or does this seem like pretty small beans? I mean given the traffic on the various social networks, and the blatant tampering Google and others (including various pollsters) were doing in Hillary's favour.

    It's all pretty yawn inducing. (If true at all)

    What's most odd to me is that Hillary still seems to be a thing. I thought she would disappear after the election. It seemed even the dems had had enough of her. But she is all over the place still, usually moaning about her situation in an ungraceful way. I don't understand how this benefits her.
    , @tyrone
    oh my Vladimir has been a naughty boy ,but we do love him so.
    , @anon

    Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    This has always been my favorite part of this conspiracy theory. There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans making shit up on the internet each and every day, for free, but the fact that a few of them were from Russia is what brought her down.

    They believe it, though. I spent the better part of last Halloween night on Twitter, trying my hardest to convince someone that, not only was I not from Russia, but I had never even been there, and knew no more about it than the average American. I was unsuccessful, which kind of blew my mind.

    , @Cagey Beast
    These claims about paid Russian online influencers assume pro-Trump and disgruntled progressive Americans weren't out there making as much noise as they could, with or without outside help. How much could the Russians have possibly done to stir up an already superheated election? It's not like it was just a repeat of the Romney vs Obama race until a bunch of weird stuff started being talked about in social media.

    On top of that, how many fluent English speaking Russians do they think that country has to spare? Russian civilians (and likely state-sponsored contractors) were already knocking themselves out putting forward the Russian point of view on Crimea, Donbass, sanctions and so on. The Russians are supposed to also maintain American personas and chat about who Hillary snubbed at an event in Kansas? I doubt it.
    , @Anon
    As if Hillary and disinformation didn't go hand in hand. I daresay disinformation was Hillary's best friend. But sure, blame the Russians. It is 1959 anyway, right?
    , @Pericles

    Putin had a “cyberarmy” spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical…..

     

    Please join the Hasbara to fight this insidious and unprecedented cyber-evil on the internet! Or at least donate, you cheapskate whites.

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/
    , @BB753
    Yeah, it was a fun gig! But pay wasn't that great. Lol!
  14. @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Wouldn’t the deal be more likely to be rejected by republicans like John McCain etc? The dems at least want single payer healthcare. Republicans don’t want to deport illegals AND they don’t want single payer. Because they already have gold plated government care for themselves.

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    • Replies: @Wencil jones
    My dear 27 year old, of course the establishment Republicans would reject a grand compromise in which ALL illegals are deported and all citizens get single payer health care. That is a feature, not a bug. Trump voters hate the republican establishment... Trump would be going around the establishment to deliver to his base on their two key issues, which are (1) Deport Illegals (2) Deliver better social programs to American Citizens
    , @guest
    The idea would be: who cares if it's rejected by Republicans? This would be a ploy to split Democrats. If Trump were getting anything, anything at all, out of Republicans, it probably wouldn't be worth it. But he's not, so screw them.

    There's no way either party, as they currently exist, will trade Invite the World for anything in my opinion, including universal healthcare. The second part I'm reading into the idea is that Trump builds a new base out of Trump Democrats and that part of his old base which wants or can live with "single-payer." Then he uses his new coalition to take over the Republican party for reelz. Or he uses it as a bargaining tool to go back and forth between parties. I don't see a third party thing happening.

    The trick will be to keep Democrat voters from thinking "ah, we'll get single-payer eventually anyway." Also to keep the immigration restrictionist base from noticing the Reject the World part is all talk. For a time, anyway. Once a Welfare State for Americans coalition is in power, if it can get there, maybe. But single-payer would come before the refuse goes back.
  15. JohnJ says:

    So she is saying she got more votes than her husband. I am sure she gets some solace in that knowledge.

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    • Replies: @guest
    What if Bill added both his popular vote totals together?

    You know, from the elections he won.

    "I served two terms" beats "I got more votes than you in a single election, with a lot more available voters" every time.
  16. Wilkey says:

    ‘I won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,’ says Hillary Clinton, who is posed – pissed, I tell you! – about Donald Trump using identity politics to ride to victory.

    I have lost track of the quote and who said it, but shortly after the election there was a Jewish woman who was, iirc, high up in the Democratic Party or Hillary campaign, who lamented that Hillary didn’t win because ‘we aren’t quite there yet,’ meaning that they haven’t quite yet managed to import enough white-hating minorities to doom whites to eternal defeat. If anyone remembers the quote and who said it please post it.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    If anyone remembers the quote and who said it please post it.
     
    A lot of people said it. It has been the party line for quite some time that the eventual brown/black majority will lead to Utopia. (Unlike any actual place with a brown/black majority, which aside from a few tiny tax havens are all dystopias.)
  17. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Hyper-inflation degrades value of currency… like in Weimar Germany.

    We now have Citizenship Inflation, passing out easy citizenship to all comers.

    US citizenship went form gold standard to paper currency.

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  18. @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.

    Well, it cost that horrible woman the Presidency of the United States and she hasn’t stopped yet.

    I prefer these ugly truths to seductive lies. We can fight them and win when they tell the truth. Why discourage that?

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I was thinking more of the millions of White ladies out there, rather than just the ones who play the game of electoral politics.
  19. Wilkey says:

    “Omigod. Putin had a “cyberarmy” spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical…..”

    Republicans should agree to hold hearings on Russian election interference if and only if hearings are held on the government of Mexico encouraging its expats to vote in US elections for the benefit of Mexico, and if the MSM actually gives it respectable coverage. That shit has been going on for decades, but no one in the press seems to care.

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  20. @27 year old
    Wouldn't the deal be more likely to be rejected by republicans like John McCain etc? The dems at least want single payer healthcare. Republicans don't want to deport illegals AND they don't want single payer. Because they already have gold plated government care for themselves.

    My dear 27 year old, of course the establishment Republicans would reject a grand compromise in which ALL illegals are deported and all citizens get single payer health care. That is a feature, not a bug. Trump voters hate the republican establishment… Trump would be going around the establishment to deliver to his base on their two key issues, which are (1) Deport Illegals (2) Deliver better social programs to American Citizens

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  21. Achilles says:
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation

    Could ‘Steve Sailer’ be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    If not, then how come we never see this ‘Steve Sailer’ person included among the pundits opining on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or the mainstream news networks?

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    • Replies: @anonymous

    Could ‘Steve Sailer’ be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?
     
    That's craz … wait a minute. Dear God! Now the golf course architecture thing makes sense.
    , @Anonym
    I've met comrade Sailer and he is good guy.
    , @Thea
    All of us commenters could be Russian hacker created bots. Even you and you'd never know. You just think you're really because that's how good at programming they are.
  22. @inertial
    Hillary would love to be able to say that she had won "more votes than anyone" (a meaningless measure given population growth) but Obama got more. But she couldn't just say "I got more votes than anyone...except Obama." She had to phrase it in her own charming way.

    The Democrats now have an obligation to preserve Hillary's record, so they must never nominate a white male again.

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    • Replies: @Steve's Fan
    The Onion apparently had to delete that disrespectful page unfairly humoring Her Majesty Hillary.

    But the page is cached in some server out there: …

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:I7tIp7co20gJ:www.theonion.com/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
  23. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    The only confirmed “fake news” guy I ever saw was some Macedonian guy in his early 20′s who completely made social-media-friendly stuff up to appeal to prole conservatives on facebook and made about $50,000 a year from google ads, like a cross between drudge report, buzzfeed, and weekly world news.

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    • Replies: @Cortes
    There have been many.

    My favourite? Well, since you ask:

    Jaroslav Hasek: The Czech author Jaroslav Hasek had an adventurous life as a journalist, bohemian, and practical joker. He founded an anarchist party, promising a pocket aquarium to each of his voters. Hasek was also fired from a job as a subeditor of a zoological journal for writing about imaginary animals and alcoholism in animals. He joined the Red Army, and became a bigamist, which made it difficult for him to find a publisher for his works. He died unexpectedly from tuberculosis contracted during the war.
  24. syonredux says:

    Off-topic,

    In case anyone harbored any doubts as to how much SJWs despise White Christians…..

    Hey White Christians, Your Time Is Almost Up!!!

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  25. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Amnesty would be Amnesia or Amnesiasty.

    Did Reagan’s amnesty discourage more illegal invasion? No, it only emboldened it.

    We now live in a nation where ‘dreamer’ means to break American laws.

    Dreaming of Rule of Law and Border Security is evil.

    Dreaming of breaking and entering and leech off America is good.

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  26. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    Hundreds!…perhaps….THOUSANDS!!!

    I see Dr. Evil in my mind saying ‘one million dollars’

    I had no idea Putin was quite that dastardly. Am I crazy or does this seem like pretty small beans? I mean given the traffic on the various social networks, and the blatant tampering Google and others (including various pollsters) were doing in Hillary’s favour.

    It’s all pretty yawn inducing. (If true at all)

    What’s most odd to me is that Hillary still seems to be a thing. I thought she would disappear after the election. It seemed even the dems had had enough of her. But she is all over the place still, usually moaning about her situation in an ungraceful way. I don’t understand how this benefits her.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    This is basically the Russian version of the Israeli Hasbara system, right?

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

    , @Jack D
    This morning on NPR there was some breathless report about how non-existent people who were really Russian bots had bought anti-Hillary ads on Facebook (or something like that) and they reported that more than ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS had been spent on this diabolical effort by Putin to throw the entire election to Trump. Never mind that Hillary spent almost $600,000,000 (and that Trump spent half as much) and that $100,000 wouldn't have even covered her budget for the healthy low fat organic snacks that they served at Brooklyn HQ.

    Here it is

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/facebook-russia-ads-us-election-political-adverts-trump-putin-fake-news-a7933461.html
    , @Bernardista
    I think she said something about writing the book for therapeutic reasons. If so, it's bad medicine.

    You won't find any clarity about What Happened until you are emotionally distant from the event (tragic love affair, losing an election to DT, etc.) at which point you will no longer care!
  27. Lot says:
    @Wilkey
    'I won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,' says Hillary Clinton, who is posed - pissed, I tell you! - about Donald Trump using identity politics to ride to victory.

    I have lost track of the quote and who said it, but shortly after the election there was a Jewish woman who was, iirc, high up in the Democratic Party or Hillary campaign, who lamented that Hillary didn't win because 'we aren't quite there yet,' meaning that they haven't quite yet managed to import enough white-hating minorities to doom whites to eternal defeat. If anyone remembers the quote and who said it please post it.

    If anyone remembers the quote and who said it please post it.

    A lot of people said it. It has been the party line for quite some time that the eventual brown/black majority will lead to Utopia. (Unlike any actual place with a brown/black majority, which aside from a few tiny tax havens are all dystopias.)

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Found it (by perusing the ancient Sailerian archives):

    "'The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,' said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. 'The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.'"

    True that lots of Democrats have said it, but a direct quote from a higher up "minority" (Dunn is Jewish) that using identity politics is there goals is a useful quote to have on file. They know very well WTF they are doing.

  28. If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.

    Does this mean something like “millions of undecided voters without college degrees read New Yorker articles where ‘white’ was used pejoratively, so they decided to vote for Trump” (a claim popular in some circles that I find implausible) or like “this minor thing is indicative of the callous mindset of coastal elites towards flyover country whites that created a vacuum Trump filled”?

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    minor
     
    cite needed
    , @Jack D
    It was a "minor" thing that whites in the Jim Crow South used to call full grown black men "boy" but it was a telling little detail. People tend to pick up on these little telling details which betray true feelings. The use of "white" as a pejorative did not swing the election by itself but the mindset behind it did.
    , @josh
    It is not that difficult to pick up on the disdain that people like Clinton and Obama feel for the unwoke.
  29. @Anonymous
    Hundreds!...perhaps....THOUSANDS!!!

    I see Dr. Evil in my mind saying 'one million dollars'

    I had no idea Putin was quite that dastardly. Am I crazy or does this seem like pretty small beans? I mean given the traffic on the various social networks, and the blatant tampering Google and others (including various pollsters) were doing in Hillary's favour.

    It's all pretty yawn inducing. (If true at all)

    What's most odd to me is that Hillary still seems to be a thing. I thought she would disappear after the election. It seemed even the dems had had enough of her. But she is all over the place still, usually moaning about her situation in an ungraceful way. I don't understand how this benefits her.

    This is basically the Russian version of the Israeli Hasbara system, right?

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    Huh......... so there really is a Hasbara. I'd thought it was the figment of a conspiracy theory. Live and learn.
    , @Anonymous
    I take it as a given that different interests will try to influence things to the extent they can.

    I also have no doubt Israel is a pioneer and prime practitioner of this sort of stuff.

    CNN was stating in breathless tones that 'The Russians' were buying Facebook ads. I sort of thought to myself... Can't anyone buy those? Is that illegal?

    There are long reports with complex stories about clandestine meetings and 'sources' they sound very troubling when the concerned sounding anchor says them, but if you listen carefully, there is nothing there. Nothing. It's amazing they can do this. They could have Americans hating Denmark in a week if they put their mind to it.

    The people who run America want a war with Russia. Badly.

    Eventually, they'll probably get their wish.
  30. @Alec Leamas

    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.
     
    Well, it cost that horrible woman the Presidency of the United States and she hasn't stopped yet.

    I prefer these ugly truths to seductive lies. We can fight them and win when they tell the truth. Why discourage that?

    I was thinking more of the millions of White ladies out there, rather than just the ones who play the game of electoral politics.

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  31. @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    It’s a winning political strategy it’s just that Clinton isn’t a very good politician. It makes far more sense to just jettison Clinton than change anything more substantial.

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  32. @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Dems probably would have run if Sanders had been Dem candidate and Hillary VP (or vice versa). Why they didn’t run him, who knows. We’ll see if they learn their lesson in the 2024 election.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Because Bernie probably doesn't want a war with Russia any more than Trump does.

    Did you notice how fixated Hillary was with Putin/Russia? She was laying the groundwork for the war she was going to supply her doners with. That's what this Russia Hacking and 'Trump is a Russian stooge' stuff is about.
    , @Bernardista
    But he's an old white male! *clutches pearls, collapses*
  33. Wilkey says:
    @Lot

    If anyone remembers the quote and who said it please post it.
     
    A lot of people said it. It has been the party line for quite some time that the eventual brown/black majority will lead to Utopia. (Unlike any actual place with a brown/black majority, which aside from a few tiny tax havens are all dystopias.)

    Found it (by perusing the ancient Sailerian archives):

    “‘The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,’ said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. ‘The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.’”

    True that lots of Democrats have said it, but a direct quote from a higher up “minority” (Dunn is Jewish) that using identity politics is there goals is a useful quote to have on file. They know very well WTF they are doing.

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    “‘The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,’ said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. ‘The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.’”
     
    "Just press a button and they'll vote?" That's a sickening quote, when you really think about it...
    , @Jack D
    That being said, Hillary got 96% of the black female vote. If this isn't push button voting, it's pretty close to it. The Dem's only problem is that there just aren't enough black females or else they could win every election from now until forever (the way some big US cities haven't had a Republican mayor since the '40s or even earlier).
  34. tyrone says:
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    oh my Vladimir has been a naughty boy ,but we do love him so.

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  35. Anon says: • Website • Disclaimer

    In the past, when elite felt superior, they were fancy in manners, education, and values.

    Today, elites are into pop culture like Lena Dunham and vulgar decadence. It’s not even the stuff that’s worth being snobby about.

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    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Part of that is they tend to have a horror of conspicuous consumption. Back in the day, the elites drove Rolls Royces, Bentleys, Ferraris, and lived in mega mansions of 20k square feet. Now only the gangsta rappers go for that sort of gaudiness display of wealth. So Lena Dunham and bragging how much they've reduced their carbon footprint by driving a smart car that wouldn't survive a head on collision with a medium sized moped is the bees knees thing to do.
  36. “Hillary Clinton looks back in anger”

    How exactly is this news? She looks forward in anger and lives in the present in anger. Has the woman ever had a pleasant day in her entire life where she wasn’t perpetually pissed off at someone or something?

    Seriously

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    • Replies: @Neuday
    If I was Webb Hubbell's lover I'd have some self-loathing going on, too.
  37. JohnnyD says:

    Yea, but unlike the Republicans, the Democrats have been importing voters for the last fifty years.

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  38. bartok says:
    @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    I wouldn’t worry about women.
    Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men.

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  39. Rifleman says:
    @AM

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    That's not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    My husband and I have talked about this at length. Because the media holds the megaphone, they can convince us we're alone. People with any sort of sense at this point knows the media is lieing or least unreliable. But because the media is so collectively loud, it easy to assume that you're the odd ball, thinking odd thoughts. I find myself getting sucked into the mindset. But we're really not the fringe.

    The elections keep showing that it's not the case. I suspect if we don't get into WWIII, Trump will expand his coalition for the next election. Sane Clinton voters I know were mostly worried Trump was unreliable. 1 term of getting things done will change that. Meanwhile that same media is getting progressively insaner by the day. At some point, anyone with an ounce of reason flip sides, especially if the conservatives seem like the tolerant and open (or at least sane) ones by comparison.

    That’s not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    You are missing the point. The Obama Core is not only non-White people. And the Trump base is not the totality of the White vote.

    The Obama Core includes a high percentage of highly educated, well off White people.

    And a not insignificant number of White people HATE Trump and his base. And those haters are prominent in media, academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, almost the entire, heavily White US west coastal areas. As well as New York, New England and the DC area.

    Those White people are fundamental to the Obama core and they seethe with hatred for Trump and his White supporters.

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.

    When I said “my people” I didn’t mean White people, I meant Trump voting American “nationalists”.

    Some of the “whitest” (in the worst sense of the genetic term) White people hate Trump and the Bannon agenda more than anyone.

    You can’t get “whiter” than Michael Moore, Stephen King, Steven Colbert, John Oliver or Rosie O’Donnell.

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  40. bartok says:
    @Anon
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/century-old-francis-scott-key-monument-defaced-with-racist-anthem-in-baltimore/article/2634255

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o-RdndD6rxc/maxresdefault.jpg

    http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/exorcist9990/images/1/17/Screenshot-lrg-11.png/revision/latest?cb=20140616135240

    This antifa and SJW stuff is a satanic kind of possession. A hysteria, a fever, a dementia. These are kids who weren't taught critical thinking but critical theory (via pop culture). These sick kids are like the possessed girl in THE EXORCIST. They think they are being free and liberated but they are possessed and under the control of some sick virus that animates them.

    In a way, the monstrous are attracted to the 'monstrous'. They are destructive, hateful, and vicious. They get their thrills like the thugs in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. They are into anarcho-punk culture. But if they just acted like thugs, they would just be thugs and criminals. So, to justify their monstrous drives, they make believe it's a war on Monsters such as 'nazis' and 'kkk'.

    In fighting 'monsters', their own monstrosity is justified. But US government does the same. In pretending to fight 'monsters' in 'new hitlers', it wages all these horrible wars.
    It's like Godzilla's destructiveness is justified by fighting other monsters.

    You’re making Communism sound very mysterious.
    Communists didn’t go away in 1989. They just started pushing on other doors (Cultural Marxism).
    If you see ‘protesters’ or ‘activists’ know that they are Communists or paid by Communists.

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  41. Dwright says:

    Probably right up there in criminal cash with most white men of a certain ilk.

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  42. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.

    This has always been my favorite part of this conspiracy theory. There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans making shit up on the internet each and every day, for free, but the fact that a few of them were from Russia is what brought her down.

    They believe it, though. I spent the better part of last Halloween night on Twitter, trying my hardest to convince someone that, not only was I not from Russia, but I had never even been there, and knew no more about it than the average American. I was unsuccessful, which kind of blew my mind.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans making shit up on the internet each and every day, for free, but the fact that a few of them were from Russia is what brought her down.
     
    Hey, I resemble resent that remark!

    True, but funny way to put it, anon. For me, it's not for free though. I have to pay to do that now. (My Kremlin contract was not renewed, as Comrade Boris says I don't "take this shit seriously enough".)
  43. @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    These claims about paid Russian online influencers assume pro-Trump and disgruntled progressive Americans weren’t out there making as much noise as they could, with or without outside help. How much could the Russians have possibly done to stir up an already superheated election? It’s not like it was just a repeat of the Romney vs Obama race until a bunch of weird stuff started being talked about in social media.

    On top of that, how many fluent English speaking Russians do they think that country has to spare? Russian civilians (and likely state-sponsored contractors) were already knocking themselves out putting forward the Russian point of view on Crimea, Donbass, sanctions and so on. The Russians are supposed to also maintain American personas and chat about who Hillary snubbed at an event in Kansas? I doubt it.

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  44. Dr. X says:
    @Wilkey
    Found it (by perusing the ancient Sailerian archives):

    "'The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,' said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. 'The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.'"

    True that lots of Democrats have said it, but a direct quote from a higher up "minority" (Dunn is Jewish) that using identity politics is there goals is a useful quote to have on file. They know very well WTF they are doing.

    “‘The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,’ said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. ‘The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.’”

    “Just press a button and they’ll vote?” That’s a sickening quote, when you really think about it…

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  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I have a question for Remnick.

    Gentiles are 98% of the population but how come it’s not reflected in media and government?

    Why are we all forced to sing hosannas to Israel and fight Wars for Israel?

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  46. “Spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms”

    Right, after being directly involved in public policy as an elected official, cabinet minister, and First Lady, wouldn’t voters have a fairly large amount of material on which they can base their vote? Or are they so stupid that they can’t possibly know what she stands for unless its spoon fed to them by the MSM?

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  47. Thirdeye says:
    @Steve Sailer
    This is basically the Russian version of the Israeli Hasbara system, right?

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

    Huh……… so there really is a Hasbara. I’d thought it was the figment of a conspiracy theory. Live and learn.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    One thing we ought to be aware of by now is that there is no shortage of social media warfare volunteers on all sides. Israel has lots of money so it actually pays a few kids to do it, but I'm sure it gets lots more doing it for free.

    In the U.S., there are plenty of SJWs who serve in the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police.

    One of the things that's going on is that there are a huge number of people serving for free in hopes of getting a paid gig eventually. You see that with SJWs on college campuses. For example, Pablo "They" Gomez, the Berkeley killer, attempted to murder an SJW girl who had horned in on the publicity for a protest They had organized.

    It's a tough business to get ahead in.

  48. @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    That has about as much a chance getting through the House and Senate as HillaryCare did.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Perhaps. But all the merrier if this sets the mob against Ryan and McConnell and Graham, too. If nothing, last year revealed that average Republican voters like their healthcare and other such programs a lot more than GOP intellectuals, while they like free trade, immigration, and losing wars of choice far less.

    To get anything done toward the actual national interests of the United States, the Democrats are not the only party that will need a radical makeover. They will need to be replaced by Republicans less obsessed with giving tax breaks to billionaires over everything else, or at least Democrats who might be willing to cut deals with Trump. Trump is in a unique position in that he really owes nothing to either party: if he would only choose to realize that.

  49. Trump tweeted this literally a minute before I saw it. He’s calling her out on her White lady games:

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  50. @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zLwVTGNQA


    In the past, when elite felt superior, they were fancy in manners, education, and values.

    Today, elites are into pop culture like Lena Dunham and vulgar decadence. It's not even the stuff that's worth being snobby about.

    Part of that is they tend to have a horror of conspicuous consumption. Back in the day, the elites drove Rolls Royces, Bentleys, Ferraris, and lived in mega mansions of 20k square feet. Now only the gangsta rappers go for that sort of gaudiness display of wealth. So Lena Dunham and bragging how much they’ve reduced their carbon footprint by driving a smart car that wouldn’t survive a head on collision with a medium sized moped is the bees knees thing to do.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... driving a smart car that wouldn’t survive a head on collision with a medium sized moped...
     
    Indeed, you are safer on a motorcycle than one of those, as at least you've got the power to get away from any precarious situation. Along with a smart car, though, if you are feeling really green, you can get a smart casket. 1/2 century after the funeral, viola! You and the casket and all your friends from the funeral have all turned into smart soil. That, my friends, is nothing if not GREEN.
  51. Hillary is reminding all Trump voters why we voted for Trump. I feel so much better. Every word she speaks makes me thank heaven that Trump, despite his flaws, rescued us from this. Trump should pay HillRy to keep speaking. It will guarantee his reelection.

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  52. Hillary is reminding all Trump voters why we voted for Trump. I feel so much better. Every word she speaks makes me thank heaven that Trump, despite his flaws, rescued us from this. Trump should pay HillRy to keep speaking. It will guarantee his reelection.

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  53. PhDPepper says:
    @Rifleman

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,
     
    But she still got her "old White lady azz" handed to her by a unaccomplished black male from Chicago in 2008.

    Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about.

    So much for your Coalition of the Fringes, Steve. Obama's "fringe" gave him more votes than any White man in US history.

    The Obama Core is expanding, not receding.

    As a Trump voter I'm well aware of that and realize that "my people" are America's new and future "fringe".

    “Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about.”

    It’s notable that the vast majority of Dems firmly believe lower black turnout was due to voter suppression. They think it had nothing to do with Clinton. Scott Walker (man) and Kris Kobach (man) stole the election, along with the Russians (all men), the FBI (all men too), and suburban Pennsylvanian men haranguing their wives and girlfriends. And let’s not forget Anthony Weiner! And do you know what else they had in common? They were white men.

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  54. @the Supreme Gentleman

    If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.
     
    Does this mean something like "millions of undecided voters without college degrees read New Yorker articles where 'white' was used pejoratively, so they decided to vote for Trump" (a claim popular in some circles that I find implausible) or like "this minor thing is indicative of the callous mindset of coastal elites towards flyover country whites that created a vacuum Trump filled"?

    minor

    cite needed

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  55. @Anon
    All writers who once had talent will go downhill the minute they succumb to the urge to drool sycophantically over a politician. Once you get into the habit of lying and shilling, and really, really liking that extra money you earn, the habit isn't breakable. The urge to anoint and worship a mortal god-king destroys more writers than alcohol.

    “To be paid for opinions corrupts; and to be paid for particular opinions corrupts absolutely.”

    –Aaron Haspel

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  56. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    So she “looks back in anger” eh? Stories about her outbursts of anger and tantrums have been filtering out throughout the years by way of word of mouth, Secret Service agents and others. In retrospect it’s now clear to see, the signs were always there: Hilary Clinton has been a functional alcoholic for many years now. Her medical incident some years back was probably a concussion from falling down when she had more than usual and banging her head. Likewise last year’s strange collapse near her vehicle appears to have been a drunken meltdown where she needed to be supported and carried quickly by staff who appeared to be ready. Long term alcohol abuse has neurological effects among other unpleasant things. That she’s been a hardcore lush all along is not something the media were going to tell us even as they tried to get her into office. We’d have ended up having a mentally impaired dipsomaniac as a president had she won.

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  57. @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    They don’t listen. The Kool-Aid is too powerful.
    White male celebs are doing it as well now, which is just as nauseating.

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    White male celebs need to be called out on this, especially the ones who try to play every man tough guys with Southie Boston accents or strike poses as laconic Texans.
  58. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    This is basically the Russian version of the Israeli Hasbara system, right?

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

    I take it as a given that different interests will try to influence things to the extent they can.

    I also have no doubt Israel is a pioneer and prime practitioner of this sort of stuff.

    CNN was stating in breathless tones that ‘The Russians’ were buying Facebook ads. I sort of thought to myself… Can’t anyone buy those? Is that illegal?

    There are long reports with complex stories about clandestine meetings and ‘sources’ they sound very troubling when the concerned sounding anchor says them, but if you listen carefully, there is nothing there. Nothing. It’s amazing they can do this. They could have Americans hating Denmark in a week if they put their mind to it.

    The people who run America want a war with Russia. Badly.

    Eventually, they’ll probably get their wish.

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    • Replies: @Coemgen

    The people who run America want a war with Russia. Badly.
     
    The "people who run America" realize that our de facto civil war will not be good for them if and when it becomes war de jure. Thus we are always at war with Eastasia Eurasia to redirect aggression away from our beloved overlords.
  59. Jack D says:

    I think this is just Hillary being her usual ham-fisted self and her awkward way of saying that she got more votes than anyone except Obama. This is not to say that she is lacking in contempt for white men, but I don’t think she meant anything in this particular instance.

    I am reading the book now and it is just awful. It is not so much a book but a bunch of randomly thrown together shout outs to various Democrat Party constituency groups, and must have been liberally lubricated by the Chardonnay that Hillary mentions. As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty. Hillary is like the girl in your high school who had the super organized notebook with different colored tabs and who would study hard for a blood test and so got good grades but really understands nothing – she just spouts back what is said to her without any real understanding or creativity.

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    • Replies: @black sea
    "As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty."

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:


    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).
     
    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you're interested in delving a bit further in the HRC's bewildered "soul."

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn't understand what that is. But she knows it's in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She's certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it's stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don't, and the scolding and shaming approach won't change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived "deplorables" comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I'm sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn't be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that's a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil's bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she's inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

  60. “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives

    It seems like it ratcheted up a lot since Obama’s second term began. African mob attacks and riots ramped up while gun sales to suburban, exurban, and rural whites quietly exploded to the point of AR and ammo shortages. Was there a big increase or change in African media like BET, Jet, Ebony, etc around that time also? BLM started in 2013 says Fakipedia but they simply rode an existing wave.

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    "Pro-minority" views have always been, more or less by definition, anti-white and anti-male by implication.

    In the last few years it has become increasingly explicit and strident.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.
  61. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @al-Gharaniq
    Dems probably would have run if Sanders had been Dem candidate and Hillary VP (or vice versa). Why they didn't run him, who knows. We'll see if they learn their lesson in the 2024 election.

    Because Bernie probably doesn’t want a war with Russia any more than Trump does.

    Did you notice how fixated Hillary was with Putin/Russia? She was laying the groundwork for the war she was going to supply her doners with. That’s what this Russia Hacking and ‘Trump is a Russian stooge’ stuff is about.

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  62. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous
    Hundreds!...perhaps....THOUSANDS!!!

    I see Dr. Evil in my mind saying 'one million dollars'

    I had no idea Putin was quite that dastardly. Am I crazy or does this seem like pretty small beans? I mean given the traffic on the various social networks, and the blatant tampering Google and others (including various pollsters) were doing in Hillary's favour.

    It's all pretty yawn inducing. (If true at all)

    What's most odd to me is that Hillary still seems to be a thing. I thought she would disappear after the election. It seemed even the dems had had enough of her. But she is all over the place still, usually moaning about her situation in an ungraceful way. I don't understand how this benefits her.

    This morning on NPR there was some breathless report about how non-existent people who were really Russian bots had bought anti-Hillary ads on Facebook (or something like that) and they reported that more than ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS had been spent on this diabolical effort by Putin to throw the entire election to Trump. Never mind that Hillary spent almost $600,000,000 (and that Trump spent half as much) and that $100,000 wouldn’t have even covered her budget for the healthy low fat organic snacks that they served at Brooklyn HQ.

    Here it is

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/facebook-russia-ads-us-election-political-adverts-trump-putin-fake-news-a7933461.html

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  63. @Anonymous
    Hundreds!...perhaps....THOUSANDS!!!

    I see Dr. Evil in my mind saying 'one million dollars'

    I had no idea Putin was quite that dastardly. Am I crazy or does this seem like pretty small beans? I mean given the traffic on the various social networks, and the blatant tampering Google and others (including various pollsters) were doing in Hillary's favour.

    It's all pretty yawn inducing. (If true at all)

    What's most odd to me is that Hillary still seems to be a thing. I thought she would disappear after the election. It seemed even the dems had had enough of her. But she is all over the place still, usually moaning about her situation in an ungraceful way. I don't understand how this benefits her.

    I think she said something about writing the book for therapeutic reasons. If so, it’s bad medicine.

    You won’t find any clarity about What Happened until you are emotionally distant from the event (tragic love affair, losing an election to DT, etc.) at which point you will no longer care!

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  64. @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they’re just going to keep on doing it.

    Many of them are unwanted by white men. And white men have been legally castrated for three decades at least so they leave rather than lead such women who can attract men.

    My solution would be to take them to Detroit and make them walk (sans cell phone) down Grand River, Cass, or any other street outside a minuscule few blocks downtown. At night. If they survive they’ll either be cured or incurable. They worship the African, let the Africans have them.

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  65. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey
    Found it (by perusing the ancient Sailerian archives):

    "'The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,' said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. 'The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.'"

    True that lots of Democrats have said it, but a direct quote from a higher up "minority" (Dunn is Jewish) that using identity politics is there goals is a useful quote to have on file. They know very well WTF they are doing.

    That being said, Hillary got 96% of the black female vote. If this isn’t push button voting, it’s pretty close to it. The Dem’s only problem is that there just aren’t enough black females or else they could win every election from now until forever (the way some big US cities haven’t had a Republican mayor since the ’40s or even earlier).

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    I'd be curious to know if, in her book, HRC addresses the question of why she lost the white female vote. I suspect that if she does, she lays it off to a combination of voter confusion (you know, they aren't very bright), racism, and media hostility.

    I think it's a good thing that Clinton has "written" this book, which she is now flogging in the mediasphere. Although a bit painful for the rest of us to observe, it is a worthwhile exercise in digging the hole a little deeper. Much of the spin that Clinton is now placing on the electoral outcome amounts to, "I had too much intergrity to get elected."

    From an interview with HRC in Vox:


    . . . I can’t change who I am. I knew that. I knew that I am not someone who will say things that aren’t true, that will not take responsibility. I had to run as me.
     
    OK, you know, if you see it that way.
  66. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    You are right as rain, but I doubt Trump can figure this out, and meanwhile he’s been busy purging his administration of anyone who has the nation’s best interests at heart.

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  67. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @AM

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    That's not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    My husband and I have talked about this at length. Because the media holds the megaphone, they can convince us we're alone. People with any sort of sense at this point knows the media is lieing or least unreliable. But because the media is so collectively loud, it easy to assume that you're the odd ball, thinking odd thoughts. I find myself getting sucked into the mindset. But we're really not the fringe.

    The elections keep showing that it's not the case. I suspect if we don't get into WWIII, Trump will expand his coalition for the next election. Sane Clinton voters I know were mostly worried Trump was unreliable. 1 term of getting things done will change that. Meanwhile that same media is getting progressively insaner by the day. At some point, anyone with an ounce of reason flip sides, especially if the conservatives seem like the tolerant and open (or at least sane) ones by comparison.

    You type a lot, but most of it is wishful thinking. I don’t object really but you could stand to study demographics for a few minutes.

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    • Replies: @AM

    You type a lot, but most of it is wishful thinking. I don’t object really but you could stand to study demographics for a few minutes.
     
    I have studied demographics. I'm interested in getting things right and I know I won't always be correct when I post. But how does this waste of space help me?

    Don't bother unless you've got some actual correction to make. That you've got snark as a "counterpoint" tells me I'm probably correct.
  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    As if Hillary and disinformation didn’t go hand in hand. I daresay disinformation was Hillary’s best friend. But sure, blame the Russians. It is 1959 anyway, right?

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  69. @Rifleman

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,
     
    But she still got her "old White lady azz" handed to her by a unaccomplished black male from Chicago in 2008.

    Then the black vote let her down in 2016. Something she and the Democrats are in total denial about.

    So much for your Coalition of the Fringes, Steve. Obama's "fringe" gave him more votes than any White man in US history.

    The Obama Core is expanding, not receding.

    As a Trump voter I'm well aware of that and realize that "my people" are America's new and future "fringe".

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.

    I assume you’re just as aware then of how incredibly dangerous this is becoming and how fast it’s worsening? When a “fringe” is the military (combat) class and is despised and spat upon by a majority comprised of aliens and our own women, what’s the likely outcome? Can this be averted? How?

    For decades I’ve advocated for a peaceful solution to racial problems that are clearly intractable. Repatriation of Africa’s stolen children with enough cash to live like an African King or Queen makes enormous sense for all. Punishing American traitors who entice and employ illegal invaders is just common sense – the workers would go home if unable to find jobs while the cops could then effectively target the more serious criminals who would remain. But I now wonder and fear the point of no return may have passed and now the most dangerous and best armed men on the planet are backed into a corner with only one way to go (two really and so far it looks like a lot are taking the second way).

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  70. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    The dead turned out in droves for The Hit-man of Mena: https://www.google.com/search?q=more+voters+than+residents&oq=more+voter&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.7910j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Tangential but germane: https://www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-thinks-orwells-1984-was-about-the-need-to-trust-authority/

    The Onion weighs in on Modern de Medici's delusional fog: http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870

    The Onion apparently had to delete that disrespectful page unfairly humoring Her Majesty Hillary.

    But the page is cached in some server out there: …

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:I7tIp7co20gJ:www.theonion.com/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame–56870+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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    I don't think Google cache pages persist over time so let's add another link: https://web.archive.org/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870
  71. anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer
    @Achilles

    a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation
     
    Could 'Steve Sailer' be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    If not, then how come we never see this 'Steve Sailer' person included among the pundits opining on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or the mainstream news networks?

    Could ‘Steve Sailer’ be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    That’s craz … wait a minute. Dear God! Now the golf course architecture thing makes sense.

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  72. Svigor says:

    Perfect story:

    http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/09/13/bloodied-and-half-blind-cops-grip-last-defense-against-disaster/635689001/

    TL;DR: heroic idiot sacrifices his health, career, and hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars (at least) to save the life of some illegal immigrant pusbag who should never have been here in the first place.

    Big Media makes a legend of the brave, stupid cuckhero.

    (Yes, I know the cop was trying to prevent harm to those below as much as anything else. Don’t interrupt muh narrative)

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  73. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    We need our weaves.

    In the past, the hungry looted for food.

    Now, it’s fatsos and thugs looting weaves, video games, and Air Jordans.

    No wonder Leftism died. Welfare killed it.

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  74. Thomas says:

    If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.

    And if you really want to know how Trump will lose in 2020, see his probable sellout tonight on DACA. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/13/report-trump-caves-on-daca-wants-quick-amnesty-for-800k-illegal-aliens/

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  75. eah says:

    white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives

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    The passage you quote is a half-truth. "White" -in respect to whites as a group and especially those who voted for Trump and are anti-left/liberal and "politically-incorrect"- is surely a "pejorative." And "white man" is even more "pejorative," since left-liberals hate white males who aren't left-liberals even more than they hate white females who aren't left-liberals.

    But "man" -referring to men of all races, including blacks, Mestizos/Amerindians, Muslims, etc.- is not at all "pejorative." Black males are the most sacred of all victim-classes. Hillary Clinton and her ilk, male and female, would never criticize much less revile black males as a group or tell the truth about black male violence and criminality. And those who do so are vilified as "racists" and "white supremacists," even "Nazis," denounced and demonized as "deplorable."

    Nor would they ever criticize much less revile Muslim males in general for their systemic abuse and repression of women and girls or note that nearly all Muslim terrorists are males and that a majority of Islamic males are terrorist sympathizers. And those who do so are vilified as "racists" and "Islamaphobes." And so, too, with Mestizos/Amerindians.
  76. eah says:

    OT

    AP — Democrats say they have deal with Trump on young immigrants

    The agreement, the latest instance of Trump ditching his own party to make common cause with the opposition,…

    “LOL”

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  77. Garrett says:

    Hillary is the daughter of a drapery and curtain-rod salesman from Park Ridge, IL; Remnick the son of a dentist from Hackensack. I wonder how much of this venomous rage comes from these people knowing in their bones they’re not what any European or Anglo nation has ever considered an “elite.”

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    • Replies: @Logan
    Americans have never based who we consider "elite" on ancestry, at least not as a primary determinant.

    Unlike Europeans, we have traditionally considered the self-made man worthy of greater admiration than the scion of privilege.

    Hamilton, Jackson, Lincoln, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford, Reagan. Even Eisenhower, Nixon and Bill Clinton. Most of these men started very near the bottom of society.

    , @Autochthon
    Being the son of a dentist makes for a damned wealthy situation in life compared to the vast majority of us. You know any broke dentists? Mine all do quite well; one of them drove a Ferrari....

    (Selling curtain rods is a nebulous description of work: The clerks at Bed, Bath, & Beyond live very different lives than do the executives; my understanding is that Mr. Rodham's position was closer to the executives'....)

    I weary of all this "I (or my dad) was just a simple plumber (or other quite lucrative gig)" business. Tell me about how your dad worked in the kitchen at a Burger King, or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart: overcoming that kind of poverty actually means something.
    , @Jack D
    Both came from comfortably middle class homes. Rodham had his own reasonably successful drapery business.

    American Presidents sometimes come from the elites but often not. Being not from an elite background (most people aren't) doesn't usually fill people with rage. America is supposed to be a meritocracy where people from often modest backgrounds rise in society.
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  79. black sea says:
    @Jack D
    I think this is just Hillary being her usual ham-fisted self and her awkward way of saying that she got more votes than anyone except Obama. This is not to say that she is lacking in contempt for white men, but I don't think she meant anything in this particular instance.

    I am reading the book now and it is just awful. It is not so much a book but a bunch of randomly thrown together shout outs to various Democrat Party constituency groups, and must have been liberally lubricated by the Chardonnay that Hillary mentions. As bad as it is, I still can't believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it - I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary's soul and it ain't pretty. Hillary is like the girl in your high school who had the super organized notebook with different colored tabs and who would study hard for a blood test and so got good grades but really understands nothing - she just spouts back what is said to her without any real understanding or creativity.

    “As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty.”

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:

    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).

    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you’re interested in delving a bit further in the HRC’s bewildered “soul.”

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn’t understand what that is. But she knows it’s in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She’s certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it’s stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don’t, and the scolding and shaming approach won’t change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived “deplorables” comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I’m sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn’t be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that’s a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil’s bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she’s inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur's character in 1939's "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"). Perhaps the irony of Hillary's life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women's work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn't good at.
    , @Alec Leamas
    We're probably all being punished for her Daddy Hugh Rodham taking his namesake little Hughie out for ice cream after the marking period while Hillary made better marks.
    , @Jack D
    Here is a telling incident from the book (which Hillary uses as an illustration of having been a victim of violence - completely missing the point as usual):

    And when I was twenty-nine, working for Jimmy Carter’s presidential campaign in Indiana, I had dinner one night with a group of older men who were in charge of the Democratic Party’s get-out-the-vote operation in the state. I had been pestering them for a while for information about their Election Day plans, and they were annoyed with me. I started explaining once again what I needed to know from them and why. Suddenly one of the men reached across the table, grabbed me by my turtleneck, and yanked me toward him. He hissed in my face, “Just shut up.” I froze, then managed to pull his hand from my neck, tell him to never touch me again, and walk out of the room on shaking legs. The whole incident probably lasted thirty seconds. I’ll never forget it.
     
    , @Thea
    Your comments on Hillary offer great insight and are gold box worthy
  80. LOL, this does illustrate one of the real points why Hillary lost too, absolutely insane and terrible campaigning and election strategy. Not for the first time, either.

    It’s actually astonishing how dishonest, hypocritical, and incompetent Clinton and her supporters are about this, given that merely losing the 2016 general election EV is not their only failure. By most fair counts Clinton actually beat Obama in the popular vote for the 2008 primary, but of course she still lost that contest.

    Furthermore, against the idea that Clinton supporters merely have a genuine belief in popular votes and pure democracy or something, they often don’t even accept what would be said legimitacy of Bernie wins in the 2016 primary, whether a state where Bernie won the popular vote but lost delegate counts, or caucus states where Bernie outright won no matter what but the Clinton supporters claim the “national popular vote” mattered for the whole primary season.

    I swear that ten year old children understand analogous concepts better.

    Even the really stupid, slow children would have some sense knocked into them if they talked about sports and claimed, “Some team might have scored more points, but the other team had a different number of yellow cards. So who is the real winner?”

    This is almost unique to Clinton and her pondscum-like sycophants; the trends of the culture war and voter demographics shifting and so forth apply to other elections. Older and lower class whites were trending more Republican (and moreso than reported by polls/media) in the 2014 midterm for instance, and these trends will persist. The political parties themselves as opposed to media and other cultural institutions are not solely responsible for culture war issues, identity politics, etc. Yet the absurd Marie Antoinette strategy and tactics of Clinton and her people don’t apply to all other politicians.

    I guess this can be concluded with a reminder that the extreme failures of one election season won’t necessary apply to 2020 and Republican and Trump hopes, keep an eye on that. Even an inept empty suit like Cory Booker might not be as insane as the Clinton machine.

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  81. jim jones says:
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    Wow, Jim, there are modes of censorship that I haven't even though of yet. That was one. I can't wait to read the zerohedge comments, but on my old browser the comments don't work.

    It would be a shame of amazon lost the faith of reviewers, as:

    A) That was one of the brightest things Bezos (or someone there early-on) thought of - let the users make up a large percent of the site content - hey, kinda like here! It'd be a shame if people couldn't trust this anymore. That'd be for anything controversial only; I guess there aren't too many big 5-star/1-star only splits on shower curtains, alternators, or even feminine products, but hey, you never know.

    B) It really pisses* people off to have written something, whether clever or not, long or short and have it never show up or disappear after a while. Someone at Amazon involved in this might conclude that these people aren't necessarily customers anyway, but I thought a new thing was "confirmed buyers" or what-have-you. I've reviewed books that I've gotten out of the library - still helpful to buyers, but not so much to Amazon.

    * Kind of like the occasional lost-in-moderation comment here, though I'd just be nice to know it wasn't satisfactory based on something rather than lost in the system. I'm not sure how that would work though, without a real email address.

  82. @black sea
    "As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty."

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:


    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).
     
    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you're interested in delving a bit further in the HRC's bewildered "soul."

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn't understand what that is. But she knows it's in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She's certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it's stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don't, and the scolding and shaming approach won't change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived "deplorables" comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I'm sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn't be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that's a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil's bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she's inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

    Isn’t Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur’s character in 1939′s “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”). Perhaps the irony of Hillary’s life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women’s work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn’t good at.

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    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn't do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .
    , @AM

    convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn’t good at.
     
    That plus the black ooze bubbling out of her soul.
    , @Jack D
    No, not really. Without Bill, Hillary would have ended up as a lawyer in some non-profit and had zero political career. The great irony of this "feminist" is that she owes her entire career to her husband.
    , @nebulafox
    I don't think so. Richard Nixon was a true example of that "shadow leader" type-very visibly in a profession that was at odds with his basic personality and reeking anti-charisma. He was visibly a lot happier and more relaxed (McGovern met him a couple of times in the 1980s and 1990s and commented on this) as a writer and backdoor advisor for Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton than he ever was in the White House. But all that didn't mean he didn't have superb political instincts, whether at home or abroad. Hillary has never displayed that, whether in campaigning or as SecState.
  83. Whiskey says: • Website

    Trump won’t even last till 2020. Reps are running hard on a sell0ut of any border enforcement, pushing Trump who is weak and spineless generally, and listens only to Ivanka and Jared, towards a mass Amnesty and pretend GWB border enforcement.

    That means lots of Reps being voted out by non-shows at the polls this next election, and a Congress that is massively Dem impeaching Trump. Also Pence. Enter — Madame Hillary!

    If you think this book just got released by “accident” then I have a Dreamer to sell you. He’s 37 years old and shouts Allahoo! Snackbar! a lot.

    Hillary figures with her massive Dem machine (that’s what the book is all about — if votes counted Sanders the man of the people with THREE count-em mansions he paid for cash for on his government salary would have been the nominee) — she can weasel her way into power.

    And Hillary is nothing special. She’s pretty much most White Upper Class women — Sheryl Sandberg, the woman at Gulag whose sister married Sergey and runs Youtube, all of the same ilk.

    They HATE HATE HATE White Men. As much if not more than Blacks and Muslims. For the cardinal sin of either being nerdy and unsexy (which women all women HATE HATE HATE) or being the sexy cad who does not stay faithful. This dynamic drives the West further to the HArd insane Left every day. There is no fixing it. Short of every White man becoming a Hells Angels gang member and smacking their women around; women will HATE HATE HATE White men. And money and organization beats votes and democracy every day of the week and six days from Sunday.

    Not that Trump is all that much — he’s Cuck City with Ivanka around. Any man with a Daughter has to be superhuman not to turn full cuck.

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    Not that Trump is all that much — he’s Cuck City with Ivanka around. Any man with a Daughter has to be superhuman not to turn full cuck.
     
    Some HDB'ers, not me mind you, would contend that men with daughters are inherently cucks.
  84. guest says:

    “more votes for president than any white man”

    I take that to mean she fell short of Obama. Does Obama’s white half deserve any credit for beating out Hillary? Shouldn’t she at least say she received more votes than any fully white man?

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  85. guest says:

    “Clinton…is not the first candidate to capture the popular vote but lose the election.”

    But she’s the first one to do so with a vagina!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Especially one that has only been used once.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Haha! "Capture the popular vote ...." I see what you might have done there.
  86. black sea says:
    @Jack D
    That being said, Hillary got 96% of the black female vote. If this isn't push button voting, it's pretty close to it. The Dem's only problem is that there just aren't enough black females or else they could win every election from now until forever (the way some big US cities haven't had a Republican mayor since the '40s or even earlier).

    I’d be curious to know if, in her book, HRC addresses the question of why she lost the white female vote. I suspect that if she does, she lays it off to a combination of voter confusion (you know, they aren’t very bright), racism, and media hostility.

    I think it’s a good thing that Clinton has “written” this book, which she is now flogging in the mediasphere. Although a bit painful for the rest of us to observe, it is a worthwhile exercise in digging the hole a little deeper. Much of the spin that Clinton is now placing on the electoral outcome amounts to, “I had too much intergrity to get elected.”

    From an interview with HRC in Vox:

    . . . I can’t change who I am. I knew that. I knew that I am not someone who will say things that aren’t true, that will not take responsibility. I had to run as me.

    OK, you know, if you see it that way.

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  87. guest says:
    @27 year old
    Wouldn't the deal be more likely to be rejected by republicans like John McCain etc? The dems at least want single payer healthcare. Republicans don't want to deport illegals AND they don't want single payer. Because they already have gold plated government care for themselves.

    The idea would be: who cares if it’s rejected by Republicans? This would be a ploy to split Democrats. If Trump were getting anything, anything at all, out of Republicans, it probably wouldn’t be worth it. But he’s not, so screw them.

    There’s no way either party, as they currently exist, will trade Invite the World for anything in my opinion, including universal healthcare. The second part I’m reading into the idea is that Trump builds a new base out of Trump Democrats and that part of his old base which wants or can live with “single-payer.” Then he uses his new coalition to take over the Republican party for reelz. Or he uses it as a bargaining tool to go back and forth between parties. I don’t see a third party thing happening.

    The trick will be to keep Democrat voters from thinking “ah, we’ll get single-payer eventually anyway.” Also to keep the immigration restrictionist base from noticing the Reject the World part is all talk. For a time, anyway. Once a Welfare State for Americans coalition is in power, if it can get there, maybe. But single-payer would come before the refuse goes back.

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  88. guest says:
    @Achilles
    Remnick:

    She lost because of the tactical blunders of her campaign. She lost because she could never find a language, a thematic focus, or a campaigning persona that could convince enough struggling working Americans that she, and not a cartoonish plutocrat, was their champion. She lost because of the forces of racism, misogyny, and nativism that Trump expertly aroused. And she lost because of external forces (Vladimir Putin, Julian Assange, James Comey) that were beyond her control and are not yet fully understood.
     
    Yep. Had nothing to do with immigration, terrible trade deals, endless war incompetently managed or her crooked ruling-class style of politics. It's just she never found the language to condemn Trump's deplorable supporters -- and that lying son of a bitch white man Comey!

    I’m at a loss for how Comey is an external force. Is he an extra-terrestrial? (And in that alien culture, are backdated secret diaries cobbled together after the fact considered the same as ones written in the normal fashion? And do people besides little girls keep them?)

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  89. guest says:
    @JohnJ
    So she is saying she got more votes than her husband. I am sure she gets some solace in that knowledge.

    What if Bill added both his popular vote totals together?

    You know, from the elections he won.

    “I served two terms” beats “I got more votes than you in a single election, with a lot more available voters” every time.

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  90. @Thirdeye
    Huh......... so there really is a Hasbara. I'd thought it was the figment of a conspiracy theory. Live and learn.

    One thing we ought to be aware of by now is that there is no shortage of social media warfare volunteers on all sides. Israel has lots of money so it actually pays a few kids to do it, but I’m sure it gets lots more doing it for free.

    In the U.S., there are plenty of SJWs who serve in the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police.

    One of the things that’s going on is that there are a huge number of people serving for free in hopes of getting a paid gig eventually. You see that with SJWs on college campuses. For example, Pablo “They” Gomez, the Berkeley killer, attempted to murder an SJW girl who had horned in on the publicity for a protest They had organized.

    It’s a tough business to get ahead in.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and "democracy advocates" (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been "interfering" in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not "interfering", we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn't view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I'm sure China does the same sort of thing - they certainly organise their students in the UK to drown out pro-Tibetan protesters whenever a Chinese bigwig has a state visit.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/20/chinese-president-begins-uk-state-visit-show-strength-xi-jinping-speech-parliament-queen

    "The significant if covert effort by Chinese diplomats to ensure Xi’s welcome was evident three hours before his arrival, with large crowds of mainly young Chinese nationals massing on the Mall. By 9am the crowd, many of them students at British universities, were lined up along the road, most wearing “I heart China” T-shirts, with China flag stickers on their cheeks and busy tying vast red and gold banners to the security railings.

    These banners, welcoming the president in carefully arranged sequences of Chinese characters, spelled out messages like “Welcome Big Buddy Xi”. They arrived in large cardboard boxes and were handed out to those waiting, along with smaller flags and T-shirts.

    While a small number of banners were clearly homemade, the bulk appeared to have been coordinated by China’s embassy. Labels on the boxes showed they had been initially sent by air from southern China to Beijing. Other boxes showed some flags had then been sent to the Chinese embassy in London using diplomatic freight.

    Those holding the banners were, however, largely coy about their origin. One young student said he had printed his banner himself in London. Asked why it was so similar to those held by many others he replied, grinning: “We must have all gone to the same print shop.”

    There also appeared to be at least some measure of official organisation. One man from Beijing said he was merely a teacher on holiday in London for a week. However, a group of young Chinese nationals referred to him as their “group leader” and said they could not talk to the media without his approval.

    This huge welcoming crowd, five or six deep in places, vastly outnumbered the few hundred rights protesters, who were confined to a small pen of barriers midway down the Mall. These were split between members of the Falun Gong spiritual group, banned and repressed in China, Tibetans and other activists.

    The protesters chanted loudly but were often drowned out by shouts and drumbeats from the much larger Chinese groups surrounding them.

    When one group of rights demonstrators unfurled a banner on steps overlooking the Mall, they were immediately blocked by Chinese students holding giant flags in their way."
     
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    Steve,

    Care to venture a guess at what percentage of the Unz Review commentators are actually Hasbara operatives???

    It seems to me that ISTEVE in particular has a decent share.
  91. Pericles says:
    @Anon
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/century-old-francis-scott-key-monument-defaced-with-racist-anthem-in-baltimore/article/2634255

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o-RdndD6rxc/maxresdefault.jpg

    http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/exorcist9990/images/1/17/Screenshot-lrg-11.png/revision/latest?cb=20140616135240

    This antifa and SJW stuff is a satanic kind of possession. A hysteria, a fever, a dementia. These are kids who weren't taught critical thinking but critical theory (via pop culture). These sick kids are like the possessed girl in THE EXORCIST. They think they are being free and liberated but they are possessed and under the control of some sick virus that animates them.

    In a way, the monstrous are attracted to the 'monstrous'. They are destructive, hateful, and vicious. They get their thrills like the thugs in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. They are into anarcho-punk culture. But if they just acted like thugs, they would just be thugs and criminals. So, to justify their monstrous drives, they make believe it's a war on Monsters such as 'nazis' and 'kkk'.

    In fighting 'monsters', their own monstrosity is justified. But US government does the same. In pretending to fight 'monsters' in 'new hitlers', it wages all these horrible wars.
    It's like Godzilla's destructiveness is justified by fighting other monsters.

    This antifa and SJW stuff is a satanic kind of possession. A hysteria, a fever, a dementia.

    But they obviously also operate with the sanction of the political establishment, e.g., Terry McAuliffe, Mike Signer et many al.

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  92. Pericles says:
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    Putin had a “cyberarmy” spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical…..

    Please join the Hasbara to fight this insidious and unprecedented cyber-evil on the internet! Or at least donate, you cheapskate whites.

    http://www.hasbarafellowships.org/

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  93. Tyrion says:

    Hillary Clinton is the type of person who, in a job interview, wouldn’t even limit herself to answering “what are your faults” with the typical pathological answers of “perfectionism” or “I try too hard” but would go the full terrifying solipsistic maximum of “I am just too amazing, it makes my co-workers jealous.”

    That she got this far is testament to the kindness men show to women in this regard. Were she a man, her own friends would have beaten the sh*t out of her decades ago. Were the world only made up of women, she would have been shunned into suicide. Modern Western women only forgive her because feminism has decided that being entirely self-obsessed and unreasonable is a woman’s right, and to be celebrated.

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  94. Pericles says:

    I’m already looking forward to parts two and three, Where Am I and Who Are You People.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Add another LOL, just used up mine.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL, ditto.
    , @slumber_j
    Not to mention, Do You Know Who I Am?
  95. the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives

    Fortunately, they’ve showed no signs of learning any lessons. If the current trend continues, the Coalition of the Fringes will be even more antagonistic towards white men in three years than it is now.

    The question, then, is will Trump’s base still be with him? Right now it’s looking iffy.

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    If the current trend continues, the Coalition of the Fringes will be even more antagonistic towards white men in three years than it is now.
     
    Of course they will, but what does that matter, save for making things even worse for us white men?
  96. bjdubbs says:

    In the future, nobody is going to run for president twice. All of the two-time candidates who weren’t incumbents – Gore, McCain, Romney, Clinton – have lost since Bush 92. Veteran candidates like Reagan or Nixon are done and the only way to win is to get momentum like Obama or Trump.

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  97. Boy i hate to rain on this parade but when total population is skyrocketing like ours in the us, every candidate every election is likely to get a higher number of votes. Sad trombone.

    The msm has zero interest in demography and ignores our population trajectory toward 3rd world totals

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  98. Logan says:
    @Gilbert Ratchet
    The highest vote total in history! Take THAT, James A. Garfield, with your paltry 4.4 million votes! Up yours, William Henry Harrison - 1.2 million votes, who do you think you are?

    Also, The Hunger Games had a higher gross than Jaws when not adjusted for inflation.

    OTOH, if adjusted for inflation, Gone With The Wind, which is in the process of being banned, is the highest-grossing movie of all time.

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  99. Logan says:
    @Stan d Mute

    “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives
     
    It seems like it ratcheted up a lot since Obama's second term began. African mob attacks and riots ramped up while gun sales to suburban, exurban, and rural whites quietly exploded to the point of AR and ammo shortages. Was there a big increase or change in African media like BET, Jet, Ebony, etc around that time also? BLM started in 2013 says Fakipedia but they simply rode an existing wave.

    “Pro-minority” views have always been, more or less by definition, anti-white and anti-male by implication.

    In the last few years it has become increasingly explicit and strident.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.

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    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.
     
    So what makes you think we won't end up just like them, only without the "Allies" to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?
  100. Realist says:

    “New Yorker: Hillary Won “More Votes for President Than Any White Man” in American History”

    A testament to the stupidity of most Americans.

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  101. Logan says:
    @Garrett
    Hillary is the daughter of a drapery and curtain-rod salesman from Park Ridge, IL; Remnick the son of a dentist from Hackensack. I wonder how much of this venomous rage comes from these people knowing in their bones they’re not what any European or Anglo nation has ever considered an “elite.”

    Americans have never based who we consider “elite” on ancestry, at least not as a primary determinant.

    Unlike Europeans, we have traditionally considered the self-made man worthy of greater admiration than the scion of privilege.

    Hamilton, Jackson, Lincoln, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford, Reagan. Even Eisenhower, Nixon and Bill Clinton. Most of these men started very near the bottom of society.

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  102. Randal says:
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    This should surely be a winning combination – the stronger parts of nationalism and socialism combined. (It’s a shame the nattiest version of the name combination has been previously used.)

    Nationalised healthcare can be very appealing if it is justified on the basis of national solidarity rather than (or indeed as well as) the real Marxist motivation of taking stuff from resented richer people at every opportunity. It can only work anyway with proper border controls, otherwise there is no real nation in the long run.

    For the US, it seems likely a nationalised healthcare system would be a small price to pay for the wider benefits of sweeping away the existing globalism of the political elite.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >(It’s a shame the nattiest version of the name combination has been previously used.)

    Far-right politics in Germany at the time did not necessarily imply free market economics. Germany's business community has long since made their peace with Bismarck's legislation aimed at stabilizing relations between social classes and preventing more emigration to America. And by the early 1930s, the Nazis and the Communists regularly won over half the vote for the Reichstag. It wasn't as if the industrialists had a wealth of classical liberal yet nationalistically oriented parties to choose from.

    >Nationalised healthcare can be very appealing if it is justified on the basis of national solidarity rather than (or indeed as well as) the real Marxist motivation of taking stuff from resented richer people at every opportunity. It can only work anyway with proper border controls, otherwise there is no real nation in the long run.

    Americans can be open to some pretty populist economics provided it is dressed up and presented in the right way. Just look at the New Deal. The problem with the Left is that they've been extremely inept at this ever since the 1960s, choosing to ignore the basic makeup of American national psychology and pretend we are Europeans. Still, if you've got Krugman himself admitting that you can't have open immigration and a functioning health care system at the same time, you've got pretty heavy propaganda weaponry for destabilizing the Democratic Party.

    The real trouble is the Republican Party. It can only work if you either change the Republican Congress in a different ideological direction, or you have the rank-and-file in Congress become so frightened of being kicked out of office by angry constituents that they undergo an ideological shift. The GOP Bonzen don't seem to realize that the three-cornered stool of Reaganism is on its deathbed and is only being kept alive at Trump's random whim, given the advisers he has surrounded himself with. Last year couldn't display more clearly the ideological gap between the masses and the cognoscenti.

  103. black sea says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur's character in 1939's "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"). Perhaps the irony of Hillary's life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women's work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn't good at.

    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn’t do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .

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    Lawyering is largely a technocratic art: like engineers and scientists, many lawyers are terrible at operational work like managing others or running large organisations.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Time to quote myself here: http://www.unz.com/isteve/ex-clinton-staffer-brad-delongs-post-on-hillarys-management-skills/
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .
     
    She got fired from the Watergate team of lawyers ... no, not on Nixon's side.

    It'd be a good thing to put on your resume if you worked for National Review, but not as much for the Democrat party.
    , @anonymous
    "People say she was a good lawyer . . . ."

    I have no hearsay on that. I've heard that while at the Rose Law Firm she made partner mainly because of her status as rainmaker acting on behalf of Gov. Slick. That said, she may have been a good lawyer--so she should have stuck to what she was good at. Thus, the Peter Principle writ large.
  104. @Pericles
    I'm already looking forward to parts two and three, Where Am I and Who Are You People.

    Add another LOL, just used up mine.

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  105. Anonym says:
    @Achilles

    a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation
     
    Could 'Steve Sailer' be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    If not, then how come we never see this 'Steve Sailer' person included among the pundits opining on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or the mainstream news networks?

    I’ve met comrade Sailer and he is good guy.

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  106. @inertial
    Hillary would love to be able to say that she had won "more votes than anyone" (a meaningless measure given population growth) but Obama got more. But she couldn't just say "I got more votes than anyone...except Obama." She had to phrase it in her own charming way.

    The Democrats now have an obligation to preserve Hillary's record, so they must never nominate a white male again.

    [T]o say that she had won “more votes than anyone” [is] a meaningless measure given population growth….

    Precisely. By that dopey yardstick Danielle Steele is probably a more important author than Aristotle was, and Madonna Ciccione is probably a more talented musician than Johanne Bach (how many people attended his performances, anyhow, that loser…?).

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    • Replies: @josh
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudnMLzZjTg

    Not quite the same, but funny nonetheless.
  107. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Hillary Won “More Votes for President Than Any White Man” in American History”

    Hard to say WON when there was so much corruption, lying, and dishonesty- a blatantly biased media pretending to be objective and neutral, even giving her debate questions ahead of time; Dem operatives paying mentally ill people to attack Trump supporters; Soros and other major Dem backers supporting destructive groups like BLM, Antifa; Colossal foreign money; etc

    And really any support she did have was riding on her husband’s coattails. Not exactly earned.

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  108. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @guest
    "Clinton...is not the first candidate to capture the popular vote but lose the election."

    But she's the first one to do so with a vagina!

    Especially one that has only been used once.

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  109. @Garrett
    Hillary is the daughter of a drapery and curtain-rod salesman from Park Ridge, IL; Remnick the son of a dentist from Hackensack. I wonder how much of this venomous rage comes from these people knowing in their bones they’re not what any European or Anglo nation has ever considered an “elite.”

    Being the son of a dentist makes for a damned wealthy situation in life compared to the vast majority of us. You know any broke dentists? Mine all do quite well; one of them drove a Ferrari….

    (Selling curtain rods is a nebulous description of work: The clerks at Bed, Bath, & Beyond live very different lives than do the executives; my understanding is that Mr. Rodham’s position was closer to the executives’….)

    I weary of all this “I (or my dad) was just a simple plumber (or other quite lucrative gig)” business. Tell me about how your dad worked in the kitchen at a Burger King, or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart: overcoming that kind of poverty actually means something.

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    Flipping burgers or stocking shelves is something that a lot of people do for a little while when they are younger, but it's not normal in American society to make a career of this job.

    In Communist countries it was very helpful to your career if you had the proper proletarian background. Who your parents are should not really be a factor. Most people in America come from middle class backgrounds but a few come from homes that are either extra poor or extra rich. You shouldn't get points added or taken away as a result of this fact, which you really can't control.
  110. @black sea
    "As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty."

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:


    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).
     
    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you're interested in delving a bit further in the HRC's bewildered "soul."

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn't understand what that is. But she knows it's in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She's certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it's stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don't, and the scolding and shaming approach won't change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived "deplorables" comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I'm sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn't be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that's a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil's bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she's inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

    We’re probably all being punished for her Daddy Hugh Rodham taking his namesake little Hughie out for ice cream after the marking period while Hillary made better marks.

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  111. TheJester says:

    Hillary won the popular vote because of the number of voters in “blue” states, primarily the megacities on the east and west coasts plus a few cities with Black cores in the Great Flyover. Trump won because of the advantages given to “red” states with relatively smaller populations in the Electoral College.

    However, this is just the surface. Hillary won the popular vote because “blue” states tend to operate without voter ID requirements. Anyone can vote, including illegal immigrants. “Red” states tend to have strict voter ID requirements. Hence, one could not prove one way or the other whether Hillary’s popular vote victories in “blue” states are driven by illegal voters and are therefore fraudulent.

    One might be suspicious that the lack of voter IDs in “blue” states is intentional. It is an open invitation for illegals to vote. I’m suspicious. I place no credence at all on Hillary’s claim to have won the popular vote in the election.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/09/27/voter-id-laws-in-all-50-states-in-1-map/?utm_term=.628d1b2c8a98

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  112. @anon

    Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    This has always been my favorite part of this conspiracy theory. There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans making shit up on the internet each and every day, for free, but the fact that a few of them were from Russia is what brought her down.

    They believe it, though. I spent the better part of last Halloween night on Twitter, trying my hardest to convince someone that, not only was I not from Russia, but I had never even been there, and knew no more about it than the average American. I was unsuccessful, which kind of blew my mind.

    There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans making shit up on the internet each and every day, for free, but the fact that a few of them were from Russia is what brought her down.

    Hey, I resemble resent that remark!

    True, but funny way to put it, anon. For me, it’s not for free though. I have to pay to do that now. (My Kremlin contract was not renewed, as Comrade Boris says I don’t “take this shit seriously enough”.)

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  113. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Part of that is they tend to have a horror of conspicuous consumption. Back in the day, the elites drove Rolls Royces, Bentleys, Ferraris, and lived in mega mansions of 20k square feet. Now only the gangsta rappers go for that sort of gaudiness display of wealth. So Lena Dunham and bragging how much they've reduced their carbon footprint by driving a smart car that wouldn't survive a head on collision with a medium sized moped is the bees knees thing to do.

    … driving a smart car that wouldn’t survive a head on collision with a medium sized moped…

    Indeed, you are safer on a motorcycle than one of those, as at least you’ve got the power to get away from any precarious situation. Along with a smart car, though, if you are feeling really green, you can get a smart casket. 1/2 century after the funeral, viola! You and the casket and all your friends from the funeral have all turned into smart soil. That, my friends, is nothing if not GREEN.

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  114. josh says:

    Did Trump also get more votes than any white man in history? It has to be close at least.

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  115. josh says:
    @Autochthon

    [T]o say that she had won “more votes than anyone” [is] a meaningless measure given population growth....
     
    Precisely. By that dopey yardstick Danielle Steele is probably a more important author than Aristotle was, and Madonna Ciccione is probably a more talented musician than Johanne Bach (how many people attended his performances, anyhow, that loser...?).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudnMLzZjTg

    Not quite the same, but funny nonetheless.

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  116. AM says:
    @Anon
    You type a lot, but most of it is wishful thinking. I don't object really but you could stand to study demographics for a few minutes.

    You type a lot, but most of it is wishful thinking. I don’t object really but you could stand to study demographics for a few minutes.

    I have studied demographics. I’m interested in getting things right and I know I won’t always be correct when I post. But how does this waste of space help me?

    Don’t bother unless you’ve got some actual correction to make. That you’ve got snark as a “counterpoint” tells me I’m probably correct.

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  117. Cortes says:
    @Lot
    The only confirmed "fake news" guy I ever saw was some Macedonian guy in his early 20's who completely made social-media-friendly stuff up to appeal to prole conservatives on facebook and made about $50,000 a year from google ads, like a cross between drudge report, buzzfeed, and weekly world news.

    There have been many.

    My favourite? Well, since you ask:

    Jaroslav Hasek: The Czech author Jaroslav Hasek had an adventurous life as a journalist, bohemian, and practical joker. He founded an anarchist party, promising a pocket aquarium to each of his voters. Hasek was also fired from a job as a subeditor of a zoological journal for writing about imaginary animals and alcoholism in animals. He joined the Red Army, and became a bigamist, which made it difficult for him to find a publisher for his works. He died unexpectedly from tuberculosis contracted during the war.

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  118. Jack D says:
    @black sea
    "As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty."

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:


    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).
     
    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you're interested in delving a bit further in the HRC's bewildered "soul."

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn't understand what that is. But she knows it's in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She's certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it's stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don't, and the scolding and shaming approach won't change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived "deplorables" comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I'm sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn't be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that's a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil's bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she's inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

    Here is a telling incident from the book (which Hillary uses as an illustration of having been a victim of violence – completely missing the point as usual):

    And when I was twenty-nine, working for Jimmy Carter’s presidential campaign in Indiana, I had dinner one night with a group of older men who were in charge of the Democratic Party’s get-out-the-vote operation in the state. I had been pestering them for a while for information about their Election Day plans, and they were annoyed with me. I started explaining once again what I needed to know from them and why. Suddenly one of the men reached across the table, grabbed me by my turtleneck, and yanked me toward him. He hissed in my face, “Just shut up.” I froze, then managed to pull his hand from my neck, tell him to never touch me again, and walk out of the room on shaking legs. The whole incident probably lasted thirty seconds. I’ll never forget it.

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    Imagine how monumentally annoying one must be to incite such a reaction from seasoned veterans at smooth-talking, glad-handing, and generally keeping up appearances – as folks in charge of persuading others to vote a certain way presumably are.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I call BS on this story. Too good to be true.
  119. AM says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur's character in 1939's "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"). Perhaps the irony of Hillary's life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women's work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn't good at.

    convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn’t good at.

    That plus the black ooze bubbling out of her soul.

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  120. Thea says:
    @Achilles

    a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation
     
    Could 'Steve Sailer' be nothing but a fake American identity constructed by Russian Intelligence?

    If not, then how come we never see this 'Steve Sailer' person included among the pundits opining on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or the mainstream news networks?

    All of us commenters could be Russian hacker created bots. Even you and you’d never know. You just think you’re really because that’s how good at programming they are.

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  121. Jack D says:
    @Garrett
    Hillary is the daughter of a drapery and curtain-rod salesman from Park Ridge, IL; Remnick the son of a dentist from Hackensack. I wonder how much of this venomous rage comes from these people knowing in their bones they’re not what any European or Anglo nation has ever considered an “elite.”

    Both came from comfortably middle class homes. Rodham had his own reasonably successful drapery business.

    American Presidents sometimes come from the elites but often not. Being not from an elite background (most people aren’t) doesn’t usually fill people with rage. America is supposed to be a meritocracy where people from often modest backgrounds rise in society.

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  122. @Jack D
    Here is a telling incident from the book (which Hillary uses as an illustration of having been a victim of violence - completely missing the point as usual):

    And when I was twenty-nine, working for Jimmy Carter’s presidential campaign in Indiana, I had dinner one night with a group of older men who were in charge of the Democratic Party’s get-out-the-vote operation in the state. I had been pestering them for a while for information about their Election Day plans, and they were annoyed with me. I started explaining once again what I needed to know from them and why. Suddenly one of the men reached across the table, grabbed me by my turtleneck, and yanked me toward him. He hissed in my face, “Just shut up.” I froze, then managed to pull his hand from my neck, tell him to never touch me again, and walk out of the room on shaking legs. The whole incident probably lasted thirty seconds. I’ll never forget it.
     

    Imagine how monumentally annoying one must be to incite such a reaction from seasoned veterans at smooth-talking, glad-handing, and generally keeping up appearances – as folks in charge of persuading others to vote a certain way presumably are.

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  123. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur's character in 1939's "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"). Perhaps the irony of Hillary's life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women's work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn't good at.

    No, not really. Without Bill, Hillary would have ended up as a lawyer in some non-profit and had zero political career. The great irony of this “feminist” is that she owes her entire career to her husband.

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  124. Jack D says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.
     
    Does this mean something like "millions of undecided voters without college degrees read New Yorker articles where 'white' was used pejoratively, so they decided to vote for Trump" (a claim popular in some circles that I find implausible) or like "this minor thing is indicative of the callous mindset of coastal elites towards flyover country whites that created a vacuum Trump filled"?

    It was a “minor” thing that whites in the Jim Crow South used to call full grown black men “boy” but it was a telling little detail. People tend to pick up on these little telling details which betray true feelings. The use of “white” as a pejorative did not swing the election by itself but the mindset behind it did.

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  125. josh says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    If you want to really know why Trump won, take a look at how the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives in the hands of elites such as Hillary Clinton and David Remnick.
     
    Does this mean something like "millions of undecided voters without college degrees read New Yorker articles where 'white' was used pejoratively, so they decided to vote for Trump" (a claim popular in some circles that I find implausible) or like "this minor thing is indicative of the callous mindset of coastal elites towards flyover country whites that created a vacuum Trump filled"?

    It is not that difficult to pick up on the disdain that people like Clinton and Obama feel for the unwoke.

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  126. @black sea
    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn't do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .

    Lawyering is largely a technocratic art: like engineers and scientists, many lawyers are terrible at operational work like managing others or running large organisations.

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    Lawyering is largely a technocratic art: like engineers and scientists, many lawyers are terrible at operational work like managing others or running large organisations.
     
    Right. But many lawyers think they are the smartest person in the room. Even if that were true, it does not automatically make any to them a good manager much less a good leader.

    I am smarter than the average bear, but I have never gone into management because I know I would be terrible at it. Not to mention that I dislike stroking peoples' egos, putting up with morons, the pay is not worth the hassle, etc.
  127. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer
    One thing we ought to be aware of by now is that there is no shortage of social media warfare volunteers on all sides. Israel has lots of money so it actually pays a few kids to do it, but I'm sure it gets lots more doing it for free.

    In the U.S., there are plenty of SJWs who serve in the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police.

    One of the things that's going on is that there are a huge number of people serving for free in hopes of getting a paid gig eventually. You see that with SJWs on college campuses. For example, Pablo "They" Gomez, the Berkeley killer, attempted to murder an SJW girl who had horned in on the publicity for a protest They had organized.

    It's a tough business to get ahead in.

    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and “democracy advocates” (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been “interfering” in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not “interfering”, we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn’t view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.

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    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and “democracy advocates” (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been “interfering” in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not “interfering”, we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn’t view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.

     

    I don't think it's accurate to say that Putin is doing this insofar as it means that Putin came up with it. The default assumption should be that the Russian State like its Soviet predecessor is always attempting to influence the internal politics of the United States.

    The idea that 2016 was some aberration that inured to the benefit of Trump is ridiculous.
  128. Jack D says:
    @Autochthon
    Being the son of a dentist makes for a damned wealthy situation in life compared to the vast majority of us. You know any broke dentists? Mine all do quite well; one of them drove a Ferrari....

    (Selling curtain rods is a nebulous description of work: The clerks at Bed, Bath, & Beyond live very different lives than do the executives; my understanding is that Mr. Rodham's position was closer to the executives'....)

    I weary of all this "I (or my dad) was just a simple plumber (or other quite lucrative gig)" business. Tell me about how your dad worked in the kitchen at a Burger King, or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart: overcoming that kind of poverty actually means something.

    Flipping burgers or stocking shelves is something that a lot of people do for a little while when they are younger, but it’s not normal in American society to make a career of this job.

    In Communist countries it was very helpful to your career if you had the proper proletarian background. Who your parents are should not really be a factor. Most people in America come from middle class backgrounds but a few come from homes that are either extra poor or extra rich. You shouldn’t get points added or taken away as a result of this fact, which you really can’t control.

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  129. @jim jones
    Amazon is deleting all the bad reviews of the book:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-13/watch-amazon-deletes-hundreds-one-star-reviews-hillary-clintons-new-book

    Wow, Jim, there are modes of censorship that I haven’t even though of yet. That was one. I can’t wait to read the zerohedge comments, but on my old browser the comments don’t work.

    It would be a shame of amazon lost the faith of reviewers, as:

    A) That was one of the brightest things Bezos (or someone there early-on) thought of – let the users make up a large percent of the site content – hey, kinda like here! It’d be a shame if people couldn’t trust this anymore. That’d be for anything controversial only; I guess there aren’t too many big 5-star/1-star only splits on shower curtains, alternators, or even feminine products, but hey, you never know.

    B) It really pisses* people off to have written something, whether clever or not, long or short and have it never show up or disappear after a while. Someone at Amazon involved in this might conclude that these people aren’t necessarily customers anyway, but I thought a new thing was “confirmed buyers” or what-have-you. I’ve reviewed books that I’ve gotten out of the library – still helpful to buyers, but not so much to Amazon.

    * Kind of like the occasional lost-in-moderation comment here, though I’d just be nice to know it wasn’t satisfactory based on something rather than lost in the system. I’m not sure how that would work though, without a real email address.

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  130. Thea says:
    @black sea
    "As bad as it is, I still can’t believe that Hillary actually wrote most of it – I wonder who the ghost writer (s) were? It is a window into Hillary’s soul and it ain’t pretty."

    From John Podhoretz in Commentary:


    First, she probably didn’t actually write all that much of it (she gives credit in the acknowledgments to Dan Schwerin and Megan Rooney, her campaign speechwriters, whom she describes “sitting side by side on my couch, computers on their laps, working on a piece of text”).
     
    Although no literary masterpiece, Shattered, by Jonathan Allen and Aime Parnes, is also worth a read if you're interested in delving a bit further in the HRC's bewildered "soul."

    I believe Clinton is an unusually bitter woman, and I suspect she has been for most of her life. On some level, she must be aware that her entire political careeer, such as it is, has been due to her choice of husband, and her aggrieved willingness to remain married to him despite the vicissitudes of that relationship. For someone as committed to the feminist worldview as Clinton is, this must be painfully grating.

    Many successful and self-confident women are particularly adept at manipulating men with a certain feminine charm, which is a form of power Clinton has never managed to wield. If you go back to the 1990s, she was, at least to me, a fairly attracive woman who, once she started speaking, became progressively less attractive by the moment. Clinton herself acknowledges that there is something about her that turns people off, that there always has been, and even now, after seven decades, she doesn't understand what that is. But she knows it's in there somewhere.

    This awareness manifests itself in a hectoring approach that only intensifies her absence of charm. She will nag, criticize, demean, and bully the world into acknowledging her, approving of her, and embracing her. She's certainly not the only woman ever to have adopted this approach, despite it's stunning record of zero success. People may pretend to like you to get you off their back, but either they do or they don't, and the scolding and shaming approach won't change that. Her infamous and ill-conceived "deplorables" comment comes to mind.

    HRC loves the political world; she just happens to not be good at politics. I'm sure most people, including most policy wonks, wouldn't be. Campaigning is ultimately about seduction, and that's a talent she missed out on. She therefore married someone who, whatever his faults, was strong where she was weak. A devil's bargain, for sure.

    I suppose at this point she's inclined to reflect upon the mistakes she made in her two bids to become president, but the real mistake was in trying to become president in the first place.

    Your comments on Hillary offer great insight and are gold box worthy

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  131. The fact that this [insert your own insults, I'm jaded this morning] even got to the level of US presidential candidate from a major party should tell you something about our system. Think about it, was there no other feminist, left-wing politically-savvy lady who would fit the bill, but prettier, with a nicer voice, without the “Clinton” baggage, including Arkansas killings and corruption, maybe 10 years younger, etc? Nobody? I’m sure most would agree with me…

    Now, you say, yeah it’s the system, you’ve got to pay your dues be involved for a long time in “the party”, etc. OK, but this is not a Bob Dole, Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Juan McAmnesty even. Whatever you think of them, most of the candidates in the past were involved, worked to support the current guy, but also held some offices for long periods.

    With Øb☭ma and the Hildabeast here, there was no long-term history of office-holding. It seems like we are just getting people through which the real handlers want to get their jobs done. Everyone knows this uhh, lady, got in the limelight solely due to her husband’s position. Why did they not select a better pick? Was it because Hillary had the goods on a lot of powerful people?

    BTW, I’m not saying the best candidates are people with years in government, far from it. However, if you’re gonna select a good candidate, you have millions to choose from. Why her? Yeah, we dodged not just a nucular strike there, but we dodged a 5-mile wide asteroid hit – the kind that kill big-ass dinosaurs.

    For presidential candidates, our elites are not sending the best.

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  132. Meanwhile, The Powers That Be continue to circle the wagins around Hill-bag. Martin Shkreli is headed to jail today for his flagrant acts of lèse-majesté, and Amazon is busily dumping all negative of reviews of What Happened in order to achieve truly Stalinesque approval ratings.

    But never forget that it was Russia who rigged the election.

    By the way, I wonder if Martin Shkreli was dragged from the courtroom screaming, “But there was no criminal intent!”

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  133. @Steve Sailer
    One thing we ought to be aware of by now is that there is no shortage of social media warfare volunteers on all sides. Israel has lots of money so it actually pays a few kids to do it, but I'm sure it gets lots more doing it for free.

    In the U.S., there are plenty of SJWs who serve in the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police.

    One of the things that's going on is that there are a huge number of people serving for free in hopes of getting a paid gig eventually. You see that with SJWs on college campuses. For example, Pablo "They" Gomez, the Berkeley killer, attempted to murder an SJW girl who had horned in on the publicity for a protest They had organized.

    It's a tough business to get ahead in.

    I’m sure China does the same sort of thing – they certainly organise their students in the UK to drown out pro-Tibetan protesters whenever a Chinese bigwig has a state visit.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/20/chinese-president-begins-uk-state-visit-show-strength-xi-jinping-speech-parliament-queen

    “The significant if covert effort by Chinese diplomats to ensure Xi’s welcome was evident three hours before his arrival, with large crowds of mainly young Chinese nationals massing on the Mall. By 9am the crowd, many of them students at British universities, were lined up along the road, most wearing “I heart China” T-shirts, with China flag stickers on their cheeks and busy tying vast red and gold banners to the security railings.

    These banners, welcoming the president in carefully arranged sequences of Chinese characters, spelled out messages like “Welcome Big Buddy Xi”. They arrived in large cardboard boxes and were handed out to those waiting, along with smaller flags and T-shirts.

    While a small number of banners were clearly homemade, the bulk appeared to have been coordinated by China’s embassy. Labels on the boxes showed they had been initially sent by air from southern China to Beijing. Other boxes showed some flags had then been sent to the Chinese embassy in London using diplomatic freight.

    Those holding the banners were, however, largely coy about their origin. One young student said he had printed his banner himself in London. Asked why it was so similar to those held by many others he replied, grinning: “We must have all gone to the same print shop.”

    There also appeared to be at least some measure of official organisation. One man from Beijing said he was merely a teacher on holiday in London for a week. However, a group of young Chinese nationals referred to him as their “group leader” and said they could not talk to the media without his approval.

    This huge welcoming crowd, five or six deep in places, vastly outnumbered the few hundred rights protesters, who were confined to a small pen of barriers midway down the Mall. These were split between members of the Falun Gong spiritual group, banned and repressed in China, Tibetans and other activists.

    The protesters chanted loudly but were often drowned out by shouts and drumbeats from the much larger Chinese groups surrounding them.

    When one group of rights demonstrators unfurled a banner on steps overlooking the Mall, they were immediately blocked by Chinese students holding giant flags in their way.”

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  134. Neuday says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Hillary Clinton looks back in anger"

    How exactly is this news? She looks forward in anger and lives in the present in anger. Has the woman ever had a pleasant day in her entire life where she wasn't perpetually pissed off at someone or something?

    Seriously

    If I was Webb Hubbell’s lover I’d have some self-loathing going on, too.

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  135. New Yorker: “America’s population keeps growing & the United States runs elections with the electoral college.”
    OK there captain obvious.

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  136. @Jack D
    Here is a telling incident from the book (which Hillary uses as an illustration of having been a victim of violence - completely missing the point as usual):

    And when I was twenty-nine, working for Jimmy Carter’s presidential campaign in Indiana, I had dinner one night with a group of older men who were in charge of the Democratic Party’s get-out-the-vote operation in the state. I had been pestering them for a while for information about their Election Day plans, and they were annoyed with me. I started explaining once again what I needed to know from them and why. Suddenly one of the men reached across the table, grabbed me by my turtleneck, and yanked me toward him. He hissed in my face, “Just shut up.” I froze, then managed to pull his hand from my neck, tell him to never touch me again, and walk out of the room on shaking legs. The whole incident probably lasted thirty seconds. I’ll never forget it.
     

    I call BS on this story. Too good to be true.

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    I dunno - I'd be inclined to agree with you because Hillary is using it to paint herself as a victim of violence just like all those other poor womyn out there. As such it is likely to be invented.

    But, I think the story makes sense in light of Hillary's infuriating personality which just naturally grates on people. I could easily see arrogant young Hillary totally pissing off a group of older experienced blue collar Party guys. Maybe the guy just yelled at her and told her to STFU rather than physically grabbing her, but otherwise the anecdote ring (unintentionally ) true and is proof of why Hillary could never have had a real political career without Bill. There are plenty of nasty women like this in the halls of academia or non-profits but they can never make it in politics.
    , @Pericles
    In an attempt at folksiness, Hillary said the n-word to the black reps just a few too many times.
  137. @black sea
    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn't do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .
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  138. @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    I think you’re misreading the situation and Trump’s base.

    It’s no coincidence that the ACA was pushed during a period of a contracting economy because it artificially inflated numbers of uninsured – health insurance is so linked to employment, an economic catastrophe and attendant job and employment crisis put a lot of people off of insurance or made it more tenuous. It’s likely that Obama knew that an improving economy early in his first term (when everything could still be blamed on W) would undermine the argument for a perennial giant Democrat wishlist item.

    What Americans generally and Trump’s base specifically want is the ability to earn enough to afford health insurance for themselves and their families. Grow the economy, raise wages and benefits, allow dispirited whites in flyover country to regain their sense of purpose and worth through productive work that allows the men to support families. They don’t want “free” stuff.

    In any event you’ll NEVER outbid the Democrats with regard to goodies to give away. It’s a fool’s errand to try.

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  139. @Jack D
    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and "democracy advocates" (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been "interfering" in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not "interfering", we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn't view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.

    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and “democracy advocates” (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been “interfering” in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not “interfering”, we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn’t view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.

    I don’t think it’s accurate to say that Putin is doing this insofar as it means that Putin came up with it. The default assumption should be that the Russian State like its Soviet predecessor is always attempting to influence the internal politics of the United States.

    The idea that 2016 was some aberration that inured to the benefit of Trump is ridiculous.

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    Part of it is technological - of course the Soviets didn't do their interfering over the internet back in the day because there was no internet. But also Putin and the folks around him are more attuned to Western ways than Soviets were in the past. The old Soviet methods often seemed crude and ham fisted because they were not that familiar with American culture and didn't know what buttons to press. And as a KGB guy, Putin knows a lot about creating a trail of deniability and working thru cut-outs, etc. and again modern technology makes this easier to pull off. No more sending microfilm messages in hollow nickels.
  140. @black sea
    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn't do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .

    She got fired from the Watergate team of lawyers … no, not on Nixon’s side.

    It’d be a good thing to put on your resume if you worked for National Review, but not as much for the Democrat party.

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  141. @guest
    "Clinton...is not the first candidate to capture the popular vote but lose the election."

    But she's the first one to do so with a vagina!

    Haha! “Capture the popular vote ….” I see what you might have done there.

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  142. nebulafox says:
    @Prof. Woland
    That has about as much a chance getting through the House and Senate as HillaryCare did.

    Perhaps. But all the merrier if this sets the mob against Ryan and McConnell and Graham, too. If nothing, last year revealed that average Republican voters like their healthcare and other such programs a lot more than GOP intellectuals, while they like free trade, immigration, and losing wars of choice far less.

    To get anything done toward the actual national interests of the United States, the Democrats are not the only party that will need a radical makeover. They will need to be replaced by Republicans less obsessed with giving tax breaks to billionaires over everything else, or at least Democrats who might be willing to cut deals with Trump. Trump is in a unique position in that he really owes nothing to either party: if he would only choose to realize that.

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  143. nebulafox says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Isn't Hillary by nature a classic behind-the-scenes political staff organizer? Women have been around in that kind of role for a long time (e.g., Jean Arthur's character in 1939's "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"). Perhaps the irony of Hillary's life is that she is well-suited to pre-feminism women's work but has been convinced by feminist doctrine that she must go into leadership, which she isn't good at.

    I don’t think so. Richard Nixon was a true example of that “shadow leader” type-very visibly in a profession that was at odds with his basic personality and reeking anti-charisma. He was visibly a lot happier and more relaxed (McGovern met him a couple of times in the 1980s and 1990s and commented on this) as a writer and backdoor advisor for Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton than he ever was in the White House. But all that didn’t mean he didn’t have superb political instincts, whether at home or abroad. Hillary has never displayed that, whether in campaigning or as SecState.

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  144. @Pericles
    I'm already looking forward to parts two and three, Where Am I and Who Are You People.

    LOL, ditto.

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  145. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history, is not the first candidate to capture the popular vote but lose the election.

    Interesting, but pointless. It’s something that will be an answer in the “Politics” category of Trivial Pursuit sometime in the future, if there’s anybody around playing Trivial Pursuit (is there anything more “Whiter” than playing Trivial Pursuit?).

    As I’ve mentioned before, the two candidates on the “right” side of the political spectrum, the two WHITE MEN (Republican Trump and Libertarian Johnson) captured more votes than the two WHITE WOMEN on the “left” side of the spectrum (Democrat Clinton and Green Stein). It was close (Trump-Johnson got about ~150K more), but when you add in WHITE MAN McMuffin, er, McMullen’s pull from the Mormons, you get a comfortable ~900K victory for the WHITE MEN over the WHITE WOMEN. But in the end, so what.

    Ms. Clinton can take her observation and $4 and might be able to get half off a venti latte at Starbucks.

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  146. nebulafox says:
    @Randal

    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.
     
    This should surely be a winning combination - the stronger parts of nationalism and socialism combined. (It's a shame the nattiest version of the name combination has been previously used.)

    Nationalised healthcare can be very appealing if it is justified on the basis of national solidarity rather than (or indeed as well as) the real Marxist motivation of taking stuff from resented richer people at every opportunity. It can only work anyway with proper border controls, otherwise there is no real nation in the long run.

    For the US, it seems likely a nationalised healthcare system would be a small price to pay for the wider benefits of sweeping away the existing globalism of the political elite.

    >(It’s a shame the nattiest version of the name combination has been previously used.)

    Far-right politics in Germany at the time did not necessarily imply free market economics. Germany’s business community has long since made their peace with Bismarck’s legislation aimed at stabilizing relations between social classes and preventing more emigration to America. And by the early 1930s, the Nazis and the Communists regularly won over half the vote for the Reichstag. It wasn’t as if the industrialists had a wealth of classical liberal yet nationalistically oriented parties to choose from.

    >Nationalised healthcare can be very appealing if it is justified on the basis of national solidarity rather than (or indeed as well as) the real Marxist motivation of taking stuff from resented richer people at every opportunity. It can only work anyway with proper border controls, otherwise there is no real nation in the long run.

    Americans can be open to some pretty populist economics provided it is dressed up and presented in the right way. Just look at the New Deal. The problem with the Left is that they’ve been extremely inept at this ever since the 1960s, choosing to ignore the basic makeup of American national psychology and pretend we are Europeans. Still, if you’ve got Krugman himself admitting that you can’t have open immigration and a functioning health care system at the same time, you’ve got pretty heavy propaganda weaponry for destabilizing the Democratic Party.

    The real trouble is the Republican Party. It can only work if you either change the Republican Congress in a different ideological direction, or you have the rank-and-file in Congress become so frightened of being kicked out of office by angry constituents that they undergo an ideological shift. The GOP Bonzen don’t seem to realize that the three-cornered stool of Reaganism is on its deathbed and is only being kept alive at Trump’s random whim, given the advisers he has surrounded himself with. Last year couldn’t display more clearly the ideological gap between the masses and the cognoscenti.

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  147. nebulafox says:
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    The GOP Establishment is really, really lucky that Trump is ultimately what he appeared to be all along: a shallow, lazy, corrupt, plutocratically inclined former reality TV star who will orient in the direction of the people who have his ear, flatter him, use big, impressive sounding words, and offer him the path of least resistance.

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  148. benjaminl says:

    Looks like she’s also been hitting the bottle. From Remnick:

    How did she get from day to day? “Chardonnay helped,” she told me. (It’s become a stock line for her book tour.)

    Asked how she was managing, she made her joke about drinking “my fair share of Chardonnay.”

    https://giphy.com/gifs/party-drinking-wine-SHLks2VEu4DPa

    https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/videos/vb.889307941125736/1042392332483962/?type=2&theater

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2015/02/one-thing-that-might-surprise-you-about-hillary-clinton/

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152573895011/candidate-risk-assessment

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  149. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Who cares what the numbers were? She won 48 percent of the popular vote (less than half by my math), Trump won 46 percent. She might have lost but for all the ringers who came out to vote in CA. The Husband of Record tallied less than half the popular vote in both 1992 and ྜ (first time since Wilson), which means that in all three occasions she and the HOR tallied less than 50 percent of the popular vote. Obongo tallied over 50% in both elections and even Little Bush won 50% in 2004.

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  150. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    No, not really. Without Bill, Hillary would have ended up as a lawyer in some non-profit and had zero political career. The great irony of this "feminist" is that she owes her entire career to her husband.

    It was ever thus. But the MSM won’t hear it.

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  151. AndrewR says:
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    It would split the GOP because of Muh Free Market

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    It would split the GOP because of Muh Free Market
     
    No, it would split the GOP because most people don't want their hard-earned money re-distributed to free-loaders. That's why we are in the position we are in now, and why you people are on here to begin with.

    You complain about demographics, but never wonder whether perhaps there'd be more white kids and fewer brown/black if not for the free stuff - and the fact that the more responsible ( most of the white people) are careful not to have children if they can't support them. However, they can't because 1/3 or more of their money is confiscated and much given back to the irresponsible (most of the brown/black) for their kids and shit.

    You want to hand 1/6 or so of the economy over to the Feral Government to do as they please with your money. Good thinking Einstein Newton!

    I HATE HATE HATE (hat-tip, Whiskey) Illinois Socialists (well, and also the ones from the other 56 states).
  152. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @black sea
    I could see her being a pretty competent chief of staff.

    On the other hand, and now that I think about it, I could also see her being a pretty incompetent chief of staff, since she didn't do a good job of managing her own campaign staff.

    People say she was a good lawyer . . . .

    “People say she was a good lawyer . . . .”

    I have no hearsay on that. I’ve heard that while at the Rose Law Firm she made partner mainly because of her status as rainmaker acting on behalf of Gov. Slick. That said, she may have been a good lawyer–so she should have stuck to what she was good at. Thus, the Peter Principle writ large.

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  153. Kevin C. says:
    @AM

    As a Trump voter I’m well aware of that and realize that “my people” are America’s new and future “fringe”.
     
    That's not true, at least not right now. There is time still before the white majority becomes the minority.

    My husband and I have talked about this at length. Because the media holds the megaphone, they can convince us we're alone. People with any sort of sense at this point knows the media is lieing or least unreliable. But because the media is so collectively loud, it easy to assume that you're the odd ball, thinking odd thoughts. I find myself getting sucked into the mindset. But we're really not the fringe.

    The elections keep showing that it's not the case. I suspect if we don't get into WWIII, Trump will expand his coalition for the next election. Sane Clinton voters I know were mostly worried Trump was unreliable. 1 term of getting things done will change that. Meanwhile that same media is getting progressively insaner by the day. At some point, anyone with an ounce of reason flip sides, especially if the conservatives seem like the tolerant and open (or at least sane) ones by comparison.

    That’s not true, at least not right now.

    Yeah, it kind of is true. Read up on some of the basic data on American demographics, particularly the birth rates and the age distributions, and look up “population momentum”. Barring mass expulsions (including a non-trivial number of non-white citizens) or other forms of outright ethnic cleansing, non-Hispanic whites becoming a minority of the US population within a few decades is inevitable.

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    Barring mass expulsions (including a non-trivial number of non-white citizens) or other forms of outright ethnic cleansing, non-Hispanic whites becoming a minority of the US population within a few decades is inevitable.
     
    This is what the last part of the sentence "at least right now" alluded to. Right now, there is a white majority and it will remain until the Boomers completely die off - about the moment Texas turns blue if I recall correctly.
  154. Kevin C. says:
    @ATX Hipster

    the words “white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives
     
    Fortunately, they've showed no signs of learning any lessons. If the current trend continues, the Coalition of the Fringes will be even more antagonistic towards white men in three years than it is now.

    The question, then, is will Trump's base still be with him? Right now it's looking iffy.

    If the current trend continues, the Coalition of the Fringes will be even more antagonistic towards white men in three years than it is now.

    Of course they will, but what does that matter, save for making things even worse for us white men?

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    The concept of diminishing returns applies to racial demagoguery just as it does to anything else. At some point (like last November) demonizing whites costs the dems more white votes than it produces minority votes.
  155. Kevin C. says:
    @Logan
    "Pro-minority" views have always been, more or less by definition, anti-white and anti-male by implication.

    In the last few years it has become increasingly explicit and strident.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.

    So what makes you think we won’t end up just like them, only without the “Allies” to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?

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    Well-regulated groups of men with semi-auto rifles.
    , @Stan d Mute

    So what makes you think we won’t end up just like them, only without the “Allies” to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?
     
    They were an unarmed minority. Whites, at least in America, are decidedly not that. The vast majority of privately own guns (esp rifles) are owned by "conservative" whites who also comprise the vast majority of combat troops (including retired) and overwhelming majority of special forces. The Nazi's had little to fear in demonizing Jews. Jews could only fight back verbally and financially (and lobby internationally).
  156. @Steve Sailer
    One thing we ought to be aware of by now is that there is no shortage of social media warfare volunteers on all sides. Israel has lots of money so it actually pays a few kids to do it, but I'm sure it gets lots more doing it for free.

    In the U.S., there are plenty of SJWs who serve in the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police.

    One of the things that's going on is that there are a huge number of people serving for free in hopes of getting a paid gig eventually. You see that with SJWs on college campuses. For example, Pablo "They" Gomez, the Berkeley killer, attempted to murder an SJW girl who had horned in on the publicity for a protest They had organized.

    It's a tough business to get ahead in.

    Steve,

    Care to venture a guess at what percentage of the Unz Review commentators are actually Hasbara operatives???

    It seems to me that ISTEVE in particular has a decent share.

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    If people are really paid Hasbara/Putin operatives you can at least understand their motives. But I doubt that there are many if any. As Steve says, too many people want to do this job for free. It's like how the loosening of morals has largely put prostitution out of business in America - why would you pay for something that you can get for free?
  157. res says:
    @Steve's Fan
    The Onion apparently had to delete that disrespectful page unfairly humoring Her Majesty Hillary.

    But the page is cached in some server out there: …

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:I7tIp7co20gJ:www.theonion.com/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    I don’t think Google cache pages persist over time so let’s add another link: https://web.archive.org/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame–56870

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  158. White Core Americans are boiling with rage at the constant attacks launched by the anti-White scum in the Democrat Party. Hillary Clinton seems especially fond of attacking Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs). Hillary Clinton deliberately attacked WWCDs in the most nasty ways imaginable.

    In her attack on the Alt-Right at a Nevada speech, Hillary Clinton just about declared all of White America who was not a Democrat voter to be a member of the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton even said a certain percentage of White Core Americans are to be considered “deplorables” by the upper middle class Democrats that Hillary Clinton hangs out with.

    Hillary Clinton was attempting to show her solidarity with the coalition of the “ascendant” — as the
    Democrat propagandists describe it — by attacking her fellow White people. The Democrats have cooked up a coalition of non-European, non-Christian voters that they feel will be in the ascendant over White Core Americans. The Democrats’ coalition of the “ascendant” is better described as the coalition of the fringes. The true ancestral core of the United States is European Christian, or White Core America.

    The Democrat Party is a coalition of Jews, Blacks, Latinos, Asians, White government workers and other White nutcakes. The only thing that holds the Democrat Party together is hatred of the historic American nation and hatred of White Core Americans.

    The problem for the Democrats is that Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and the other scumbag geezer Whites who front the Democrat Party are gonna start croaking due to natural causes. This White Democrat geezer politician croak-off will be accompanied by the understandable desire of the non-White Democrats to lead the Democrat Party themselves. This anti-White civil war within the Democrat Party is happening already.

    White Core Americans will be forced to drop the neutrality display in the race racket political show. White Core Americans will be driven to accepting the honest assertion of White interests by White politicians. The implicit Whiteness of the Republican Party will become the explicit Whiteness of the Republican Party when White Republican Party politicians defend White interests against the anti-White attacks emanating from the Democrat Party.

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  159. res says:
    @res
    I don't think Google cache pages persist over time so let's add another link: https://web.archive.org/article/clinton-already-working-follow-book-casting-blame--56870

    Odd. I don’t think that was the link I posted. Let’s try again: Clinton Already Working On Follow-Up Book Casting Blame For Failures Of First

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  160. Jack D says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The other aspect to this is that American non-profits and “democracy advocates” (some of which get US gov $ funneled to them) have been “interfering” in foreign elections for decades. Of course we are not “interfering”, we are just spreading truth, justice and the American way.

    Putin is doing this stuff mainly to give the US a taste of its own medicine, which is how he sees it. Of course he sees it from a totally cynical point of view and doesn’t view democracy as an end in itself but simply as a route to power.

     

    I don't think it's accurate to say that Putin is doing this insofar as it means that Putin came up with it. The default assumption should be that the Russian State like its Soviet predecessor is always attempting to influence the internal politics of the United States.

    The idea that 2016 was some aberration that inured to the benefit of Trump is ridiculous.

    Part of it is technological – of course the Soviets didn’t do their interfering over the internet back in the day because there was no internet. But also Putin and the folks around him are more attuned to Western ways than Soviets were in the past. The old Soviet methods often seemed crude and ham fisted because they were not that familiar with American culture and didn’t know what buttons to press. And as a KGB guy, Putin knows a lot about creating a trail of deniability and working thru cut-outs, etc. and again modern technology makes this easier to pull off. No more sending microfilm messages in hollow nickels.

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    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Let me know when the Russians start up with their version of Radio Free Europe.
  161. Jack D says:
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    Steve,

    Care to venture a guess at what percentage of the Unz Review commentators are actually Hasbara operatives???

    It seems to me that ISTEVE in particular has a decent share.

    If people are really paid Hasbara/Putin operatives you can at least understand their motives. But I doubt that there are many if any. As Steve says, too many people want to do this job for free. It’s like how the loosening of morals has largely put prostitution out of business in America – why would you pay for something that you can get for free?

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    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Brutusale
    If you're good at something, never do it for free.

    Something that's free is worth exactly what you paid for it.
  162. Jack D says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    I call BS on this story. Too good to be true.

    I dunno – I’d be inclined to agree with you because Hillary is using it to paint herself as a victim of violence just like all those other poor womyn out there. As such it is likely to be invented.

    But, I think the story makes sense in light of Hillary’s infuriating personality which just naturally grates on people. I could easily see arrogant young Hillary totally pissing off a group of older experienced blue collar Party guys. Maybe the guy just yelled at her and told her to STFU rather than physically grabbing her, but otherwise the anecdote ring (unintentionally ) true and is proof of why Hillary could never have had a real political career without Bill. There are plenty of nasty women like this in the halls of academia or non-profits but they can never make it in politics.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    OK. It was the physically grabbing part that put me off. Too many good details. But I agree that maybe someone did tell her obnoxious self to STFU. This, after all, is the woman who got thrown off the Watergate committee for unethical behavior.
  163. @Bernardista
    They don't listen. The Kool-Aid is too powerful.
    White male celebs are doing it as well now, which is just as nauseating.

    White male celebs need to be called out on this, especially the ones who try to play every man tough guys with Southie Boston accents or strike poses as laconic Texans.

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  164. Coemgen says:
    @Anonymous
    I take it as a given that different interests will try to influence things to the extent they can.

    I also have no doubt Israel is a pioneer and prime practitioner of this sort of stuff.

    CNN was stating in breathless tones that 'The Russians' were buying Facebook ads. I sort of thought to myself... Can't anyone buy those? Is that illegal?

    There are long reports with complex stories about clandestine meetings and 'sources' they sound very troubling when the concerned sounding anchor says them, but if you listen carefully, there is nothing there. Nothing. It's amazing they can do this. They could have Americans hating Denmark in a week if they put their mind to it.

    The people who run America want a war with Russia. Badly.

    Eventually, they'll probably get their wish.

    The people who run America want a war with Russia. Badly.

    The “people who run America” realize that our de facto civil war will not be good for them if and when it becomes war de jure. Thus we are always at war with Eastasia Eurasia to redirect aggression away from our beloved overlords.

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  165. slumber_j says:
    @Pericles
    I'm already looking forward to parts two and three, Where Am I and Who Are You People.

    Not to mention, Do You Know Who I Am?

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  166. MBlanc46 says:
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Was there a “health care mess” before Obama torpedoed the system in 2009?

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  167. Pericles says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    I call BS on this story. Too good to be true.

    In an attempt at folksiness, Hillary said the n-word to the black reps just a few too many times.

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  168. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, as she puts it, won “more votes for President than any white man” in American history,

    Q. What “white man” has won the most votes for President in American history?

    A. Donald John Trump

    So Hillary is simply telling everyone again she won the popular vote, but in a way that (falsely) appears to be “historic” — considering that nearly twice as many people voted in 2016 as 1964, for example, it is not altogether surprising that she garnered more votes than LBJ (who had 61% of the vote, as compared to Hillary’s 48%).

    In fact, she’s so popular that she won more votes than Nixon did in 1968 and 1972 combined! Indeed, she won more votes than all the winning “white male” presidential candidates combined in the 19th century!

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  169. @AndrewR
    It would split the GOP because of Muh Free Market

    It would split the GOP because of Muh Free Market

    No, it would split the GOP because most people don’t want their hard-earned money re-distributed to free-loaders. That’s why we are in the position we are in now, and why you people are on here to begin with.

    You complain about demographics, but never wonder whether perhaps there’d be more white kids and fewer brown/black if not for the free stuff – and the fact that the more responsible ( most of the white people) are careful not to have children if they can’t support them. However, they can’t because 1/3 or more of their money is confiscated and much given back to the irresponsible (most of the brown/black) for their kids and shit.

    You want to hand 1/6 or so of the economy over to the Feral Government to do as they please with your money. Good thinking Einstein Newton!

    I HATE HATE HATE (hat-tip, Whiskey) Illinois Socialists (well, and also the ones from the other 56 states).

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  170. @Kevin C.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.
     
    So what makes you think we won't end up just like them, only without the "Allies" to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?

    Well-regulated groups of men with semi-auto rifles.

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  171. SMK says: • Website
    @Cagey Beast
    These White women are going to have to be policed by, first the White men in their lives and then the more sensible White women around them, to cut this shit out. This has to start costing these upper-middle class ladies something or they're just going to keep on doing it.

    Why single out “white women.” left-liberal white males are just as bad, and worse in that they have far more power and influence.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    I single out White women because they're the one badmouthing White men the most. left-liberal White men only mimic White ladies badmouthing White men as a mating strategy. White men secondarily do it to form political alliances with White ladies. In either case, the problem is White ladies having an appetite for this stuff.
  172. @Autochthon
    Lawyering is largely a technocratic art: like engineers and scientists, many lawyers are terrible at operational work like managing others or running large organisations.

    Lawyering is largely a technocratic art: like engineers and scientists, many lawyers are terrible at operational work like managing others or running large organisations.

    Right. But many lawyers think they are the smartest person in the room. Even if that were true, it does not automatically make any to them a good manager much less a good leader.

    I am smarter than the average bear, but I have never gone into management because I know I would be terrible at it. Not to mention that I dislike stroking peoples’ egos, putting up with morons, the pay is not worth the hassle, etc.

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  173. @Jack D
    I dunno - I'd be inclined to agree with you because Hillary is using it to paint herself as a victim of violence just like all those other poor womyn out there. As such it is likely to be invented.

    But, I think the story makes sense in light of Hillary's infuriating personality which just naturally grates on people. I could easily see arrogant young Hillary totally pissing off a group of older experienced blue collar Party guys. Maybe the guy just yelled at her and told her to STFU rather than physically grabbing her, but otherwise the anecdote ring (unintentionally ) true and is proof of why Hillary could never have had a real political career without Bill. There are plenty of nasty women like this in the halls of academia or non-profits but they can never make it in politics.

    OK. It was the physically grabbing part that put me off. Too many good details. But I agree that maybe someone did tell her obnoxious self to STFU. This, after all, is the woman who got thrown off the Watergate committee for unethical behavior.

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  174. @al-Gharaniq
    Dems probably would have run if Sanders had been Dem candidate and Hillary VP (or vice versa). Why they didn't run him, who knows. We'll see if they learn their lesson in the 2024 election.

    But he’s an old white male! *clutches pearls, collapses*

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  175. SMK says: • Website
    @eah
    white” and “man” have in recent years become all-purpose pejoratives

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJotQ1vU8AAP6Ai.jpg

    The passage you quote is a half-truth. “White” -in respect to whites as a group and especially those who voted for Trump and are anti-left/liberal and “politically-incorrect”- is surely a “pejorative.” And “white man” is even more “pejorative,” since left-liberals hate white males who aren’t left-liberals even more than they hate white females who aren’t left-liberals.

    But “man” -referring to men of all races, including blacks, Mestizos/Amerindians, Muslims, etc.- is not at all “pejorative.” Black males are the most sacred of all victim-classes. Hillary Clinton and her ilk, male and female, would never criticize much less revile black males as a group or tell the truth about black male violence and criminality. And those who do so are vilified as “racists” and “white supremacists,” even “Nazis,” denounced and demonized as “deplorable.”

    Nor would they ever criticize much less revile Muslim males in general for their systemic abuse and repression of women and girls or note that nearly all Muslim terrorists are males and that a majority of Islamic males are terrorist sympathizers. And those who do so are vilified as “racists” and “Islamaphobes.” And so, too, with Mestizos/Amerindians.

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  176. El Dato says:
    @Arnold Smith
    Bernie's proposal for Free Single Payer Health Care has the potential to sink Trump. Huge numbers of Americans are looking for a solution to the Health Care mess.


    Trump should immediately give an epic speech saying that Trump is in FAVOR of free single payer health care as long as it is implemented in conjunction with deporting ALL the illegals in America.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    Such a proposal by Trump would permanently split the Democratic party. It is a win win for Trump. If his deal is accepted, the demographics of America are permanently set right and he is a hero for giving everyone free health care. If his deal is rejected by Democrats, many Dems who want free health care will abandon the party and vote Trump in 2020.

    Trump should emphatically say that America has enough money to give everyone here legally free health care but no money to give it to illegals.

    It’s not money which is needed. You may notice that money is currently being printed up whenever someone has an itch to scratch. It’s infrastructure, medical personnel (capable and not forced to do consultations at low, low prices), nurses, universities, waiting rooms, planning, correctly-seized administration, maintenance, drugs not sold at high, high prices and on and on and on.

    And finally, taxpayers. Yeah.

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  177. JamesG says:

    Every depressing week I get my copy of The New Yorker.

    I’m not cancelling but not renewing.

    Remnick has ruined it.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    Like many people on the left, Remnick has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Maybe after Trump is no longer the President you will be able to restart your subscription. Until then, expect non-stop ranting about how Trump is Hitler, Trump is the anti-Christ, etc.
    , @black sea
    Remnick has a good instinct for business, not to mention self promotion. In this regard, he's not that far removed from his bete noire in the White House.

    I've seen Remnick interviewed a few times on Charlie Rose or whatevever. I can't remember one interesting or amusing or insightful thing he said. What little I've read of his writing just strikes me as run-of-the-mill liberal boilerplate, perhaps cranked up a notch or two on the anger/hysteria scale.

    Here's an article about Remnick's expansion of the New Yorker's media reach. As I said, he seems to have a nose for business, but nothing about him or his work interests me:

    http://observer.com/2016/01/the-new-yorker/
  178. BB753 says:
    @syonredux

    Such talk was not a matter of wishful conspiracy thinking. Scott Shane, of the Times, recently published an article in which he, with the help of the cybersecurity firm FireEye, detailed the Russian efforts against Clinton in the campaign, far beyond the hack of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s e-mail accounts. Shane reported that a “cyberarmy” of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of bloggers and bots with fake American identities spread disinformation about Clinton on various platforms, including Facebook and Twitter.
     
    Omigod. Putin had a "cyberarmy" spreading disinformation on Facebook and Twitter. How diabolical.....

    Yeah, it was a fun gig! But pay wasn’t that great. Lol!

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  179. yeah says:

    David Remnick missed out some real good reasons for why Hillary lost. Actually he missed out all the real reasons, so busy he got spinning consoling clap-trap for the Hillary fan club.

    1.) Because scores of arrogant sob’s like him in the media kept yelling nonsense and lies at the people.

    2.) Because Hillary was … Hillary. Defective merchandise, showing age and bad condition (coughing, fainting, other telltale signs of “Product nearing expiry date”)

    3.) Because she pushed half the voting population out to rot in a reservation for deplorables.

    4.) Because she thought that Joe the plumber and Tom the accountant would find LGBTQ stuff cute, cool, and so progressive. Turns out they didn’t.

    5.) Because she thought she was so much above Joe the plumber and Tom the accountant. By voting time, she had floated way over their horizons.

    6.) Countless other reasons, stuff for my Ph.D. thesis, but the executive summary is “Because she was Hillary”.

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  180. … stuff for my Ph.D. thesis, …

    Is that true? Need any more people on the committee?

    (I’m sure after reading your bullet points that I would like to read a copy – possibly before the professors get to it.)

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  181. anonguy says:
    @Whiskey
    Trump won't even last till 2020. Reps are running hard on a sell0ut of any border enforcement, pushing Trump who is weak and spineless generally, and listens only to Ivanka and Jared, towards a mass Amnesty and pretend GWB border enforcement.

    That means lots of Reps being voted out by non-shows at the polls this next election, and a Congress that is massively Dem impeaching Trump. Also Pence. Enter -- Madame Hillary!

    If you think this book just got released by "accident" then I have a Dreamer to sell you. He's 37 years old and shouts Allahoo! Snackbar! a lot.

    Hillary figures with her massive Dem machine (that's what the book is all about -- if votes counted Sanders the man of the people with THREE count-em mansions he paid for cash for on his government salary would have been the nominee) -- she can weasel her way into power.

    And Hillary is nothing special. She's pretty much most White Upper Class women -- Sheryl Sandberg, the woman at Gulag whose sister married Sergey and runs Youtube, all of the same ilk.

    They HATE HATE HATE White Men. As much if not more than Blacks and Muslims. For the cardinal sin of either being nerdy and unsexy (which women all women HATE HATE HATE) or being the sexy cad who does not stay faithful. This dynamic drives the West further to the HArd insane Left every day. There is no fixing it. Short of every White man becoming a Hells Angels gang member and smacking their women around; women will HATE HATE HATE White men. And money and organization beats votes and democracy every day of the week and six days from Sunday.

    Not that Trump is all that much -- he's Cuck City with Ivanka around. Any man with a Daughter has to be superhuman not to turn full cuck.

    Not that Trump is all that much — he’s Cuck City with Ivanka around. Any man with a Daughter has to be superhuman not to turn full cuck.

    Some HDB’ers, not me mind you, would contend that men with daughters are inherently cucks.

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  182. AM says:
    @Kevin C.

    That’s not true, at least not right now.
     
    Yeah, it kind of is true. Read up on some of the basic data on American demographics, particularly the birth rates and the age distributions, and look up "population momentum". Barring mass expulsions (including a non-trivial number of non-white citizens) or other forms of outright ethnic cleansing, non-Hispanic whites becoming a minority of the US population within a few decades is inevitable.

    Barring mass expulsions (including a non-trivial number of non-white citizens) or other forms of outright ethnic cleansing, non-Hispanic whites becoming a minority of the US population within a few decades is inevitable.

    This is what the last part of the sentence “at least right now” alluded to. Right now, there is a white majority and it will remain until the Boomers completely die off – about the moment Texas turns blue if I recall correctly.

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  183. CH says:

    Funny thing about Remnick. When I was in high school, my dad bought me a shortwave radio, and I would listen to Radio Moscow during the Andropov/Chernenko/Gorbachev era. That got me interested in Russian politics, and Remnick was a great resource for what was happening during that era. I loved his story about Lazar Kaganovich’s (Stalin’s agricultural man) having a secret telephone ring code in order to get him to answer the phone.

    His reporting was good, but then he got an editorial platform in the New Yorker, and he’s become a bubble bomb-thrower. However, I suppose the money’s better than the Moscow Bureau, so one makes trade-offs.

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  184. Jack D says:
    @JamesG
    Every depressing week I get my copy of The New Yorker.

    I'm not cancelling but not renewing.

    Remnick has ruined it.

    Like many people on the left, Remnick has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Maybe after Trump is no longer the President you will be able to restart your subscription. Until then, expect non-stop ranting about how Trump is Hitler, Trump is the anti-Christ, etc.

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  185. black sea says:
    @JamesG
    Every depressing week I get my copy of The New Yorker.

    I'm not cancelling but not renewing.

    Remnick has ruined it.

    Remnick has a good instinct for business, not to mention self promotion. In this regard, he’s not that far removed from his bete noire in the White House.

    I’ve seen Remnick interviewed a few times on Charlie Rose or whatevever. I can’t remember one interesting or amusing or insightful thing he said. What little I’ve read of his writing just strikes me as run-of-the-mill liberal boilerplate, perhaps cranked up a notch or two on the anger/hysteria scale.

    Here’s an article about Remnick’s expansion of the New Yorker’s media reach. As I said, he seems to have a nose for business, but nothing about him or his work interests me:

    http://observer.com/2016/01/the-new-yorker/

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    In the rich people magazine competition, Carter Graydon at Vanity Fair seems to employ more interesting writers.
  186. @black sea
    Remnick has a good instinct for business, not to mention self promotion. In this regard, he's not that far removed from his bete noire in the White House.

    I've seen Remnick interviewed a few times on Charlie Rose or whatevever. I can't remember one interesting or amusing or insightful thing he said. What little I've read of his writing just strikes me as run-of-the-mill liberal boilerplate, perhaps cranked up a notch or two on the anger/hysteria scale.

    Here's an article about Remnick's expansion of the New Yorker's media reach. As I said, he seems to have a nose for business, but nothing about him or his work interests me:

    http://observer.com/2016/01/the-new-yorker/

    In the rich people magazine competition, Carter Graydon at Vanity Fair seems to employ more interesting writers.

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  187. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D
    Part of it is technological - of course the Soviets didn't do their interfering over the internet back in the day because there was no internet. But also Putin and the folks around him are more attuned to Western ways than Soviets were in the past. The old Soviet methods often seemed crude and ham fisted because they were not that familiar with American culture and didn't know what buttons to press. And as a KGB guy, Putin knows a lot about creating a trail of deniability and working thru cut-outs, etc. and again modern technology makes this easier to pull off. No more sending microfilm messages in hollow nickels.

    Let me know when the Russians start up with their version of Radio Free Europe.

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  188. @Kevin C.

    Whites in general, and straight white males in particular, have rhetoric aimed at them that is remarkably similar to the aimed at Jews in 1930s Germany.
     
    So what makes you think we won't end up just like them, only without the "Allies" to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?

    So what makes you think we won’t end up just like them, only without the “Allies” to come in to our rescue (because who would those be)?

    They were an unarmed minority. Whites, at least in America, are decidedly not that. The vast majority of privately own guns (esp rifles) are owned by “conservative” whites who also comprise the vast majority of combat troops (including retired) and overwhelming majority of special forces. The Nazi’s had little to fear in demonizing Jews. Jews could only fight back verbally and financially (and lobby internationally).

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  189. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D
    If people are really paid Hasbara/Putin operatives you can at least understand their motives. But I doubt that there are many if any. As Steve says, too many people want to do this job for free. It's like how the loosening of morals has largely put prostitution out of business in America - why would you pay for something that you can get for free?

    If you’re good at something, never do it for free.

    Something that’s free is worth exactly what you paid for it.

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  190. @Kevin C.

    If the current trend continues, the Coalition of the Fringes will be even more antagonistic towards white men in three years than it is now.
     
    Of course they will, but what does that matter, save for making things even worse for us white men?

    The concept of diminishing returns applies to racial demagoguery just as it does to anything else. At some point (like last November) demonizing whites costs the dems more white votes than it produces minority votes.

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  191. @SMK
    Why single out "white women." left-liberal white males are just as bad, and worse in that they have far more power and influence.

    I single out White women because they’re the one badmouthing White men the most. left-liberal White men only mimic White ladies badmouthing White men as a mating strategy. White men secondarily do it to form political alliances with White ladies. In either case, the problem is White ladies having an appetite for this stuff.

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