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Diversity is great, for example, for entertaining viral videos, like the blonde cheerleader who fights back when attacked by a fat black girl.

Also, cheap chalupas.

 
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  1. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    • Troll: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Tyrion 2
  2. Wilkey says:

    One thing to understand is that a lot of fear isn’t motivated by weakness, but by sanity. People who are sane are (quite reasonably) afraid of people who are unstable, because unstable people are unpredictable and often seem unaffected by any concern for the consequences of their actions. Unstable people do understand one thing, however: how their crazy causes other people to fear them. They aren’t used to people fighting back, and they usually aren’t nearly as good in a fight as they think they are.

    Understand that and you suddenly gain a lot of leverage with the crazies, who aren’t always used to having non-crazies push back. Fat Black Girl thought blonde Becky was just a shrinking violet. For the record, blonde Becky is a cheerleader, and hey, did you happen to know that cheerleaders are athletes and happen to be in pretty damn good shape? About half the cheerleaders I knew is HS were former gymnasts, and I suspect that percentage has only gone up over the last two decades.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anon
    , @ThreeCranes
  3. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    Why do black guys cheer black girls getting beaten by Beckys?

    Her sister’s crowd, by the way:

  4. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    An example of MAN BITES DOG!

    Hopefully times are a changin’

  5. Wilkey says:

    What’s funny is that if you watch all the way to end you have a black guy laughing at a black girl getting beaten by a cute white girl. Make the white girl ugly and he probably would have been on the other side. Make them both guys and you might have had a race riot on your hands.

  6. Good for her. Start nothing but finish everything. No one should believe they can touch you and get away without getting their face beat in. That was the value of dueling in the old days. You didn’t insult or otherwise seek to harm someone else with impunity. And you had to be willing to back up your words. That is why people in that era tended to be courteous in general. These days decent folks do not want trouble so they walk away from these kinds of provocations and the other side learns that they can continue to act rudely or even violently. The sooner people know that you will respond to violence against your person with extreme prejudice the more quickly they learn that it is in their best interests to simply mind their own business instead of bothering other people.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  7. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    sierra sprague @sierrasprague

    I hate being white

    sierra sprague @sierrasprague

    I love being the only white person in a black church

    That’s the sister.

    You do realize you’re just cheering Becky on for stomping on her competition for black guys, right?

  8. Anonym says:

    I like the NY Post more than the Slim blog, but this…

    Sprague then told the girl standing over her to get her finger out of her face, quickly escalating tensions as several witnesses looked on.

    So it was the diminutive white girl who escalated tensions, not the finger poking black female.

    Seconds later, the unidentified girl slapped Sprague in the face, sparking a brutal fight in which Sprague got the best of her antagonistic counterpart. At one point, Sprague is seen on top of the other girl, pummeling her with vicious, repetitive, closed-fist blows to her back and face.

    Review the tape. Black female straight up closed fist slugs cheerleader to begin. It wasn’t a slap.

    The anti-white Lugenpresse.

  9. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Alert Dana White: the cheerleader has potential. She’s aggressive, gets a take down, and then follows up with a mount and a little ground & pound. I like how she holds onto her phone during the fight, so it doesn’t get pilfered.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  10. eah says:

    You must read a good way into the article before you get to the key sentence: Seconds later, the unidentified girl slapped Sprague in the face…

  11. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    She’s aggressive, gets a take down, and then follows up with a mount and a little ground & pound.

    Here is my professional analysis. The girl doesn’t know how to fight, period. Her punches were all arm punches with zero hip rotations. She didn’t get a takedown either. Her opponent tripped. And she didn’t have a mount, she was either in half-guard or full-guard (not that the black girl knew how to use either). And she allowed her opponent to get up. But, as the saying goes, “in the land of the blind, one-eyed man is the king.” The fat black girl was even worse (and likely much more out of shape), so it ended poorly for her.

    The one thing the cheerleader did right, and it impressed me greatly: as soon as the fight started, she reacted very well. She put her chin down and started punching aggressively right away and never stopped. She did an amateur version of what is called in JKD Concepts a “straight blast.” In contrast, the black girl makes the classic amateur mistake – she lifts her chin up in an effort to move her face away from the punches, which, among others things, completely eliminates any offense from her (makes her purely defensive) and compromises her posture (and that’s why she tripped and fell backwards).

    If both fighters have zero striking training, victory is likely to go to the person who puts his chin down, puts his guard up, and punches aggressively – sort of an untrained version of Rampage KOing Wandy: https://youtu.be/FpI1T61q874

    And if both fighters have zero grappling training, whoever ends up on top – when they inevitably both fall – wins.

  12. I guess white people aren’t all pussies?

    Or maybe she just didn’t get the memo that chunky black women are entitled to win?

    I hope this gal finds a good man and has ten kids. She’s got the fighting spirt the West needs.

    • Troll: AndrewR
  13. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Why do black guys cheer black girls getting beaten by Beckys?

    Blacks seem to react with laughter and joyful excitement at the sight of anyone getting beat up.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @Desiderius
  14. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Yet another reason why Julian Assange must be silenced at all costs!

  15. Oh, that was pleasant to watch. There’s one white girl who does not know her place.

  16. Clyde says:

    Becky good hair’s punches were done hammer fist style so she would not hurt her knuckles or her nails. Look up hammer fist. Another poster mentioned his.
    Girl fights often involve hair grabbing by the victor. A primitive and effective tactic. Becky denied this to the flabalanche attacker.
    Becky was in very good shape so credit goes to her discipline. She pulled a Justin Trudeau on her Hefty Bag sparring partner.

  17. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    The miracle here is that a white person dared to fight back, which is generally social suicide (sometimes literal suicide) in the USA of 2018.

    That’s the only reason this is even a story. Since Trump is president, this won’t be called a ‘teachable moment’ from the White House. If it were Barack or Hillary, we’d need to have (yet another) National Conversation about Uppity White People.

    In other news, I notice the NYP captioning a photo of Saddam Hussein thus: “Why these 9/11 monsters still haven’t faced a trial”

  18. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I hate being white

    White people have to say that every day now to maintain any sort of street cred.

    By ‘street cred’ of course I mean FB & Twitter cred–today’s ‘street’.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Harry Baldwin
  19. @Twinkie

    The one thing the cheerleader did right, and it impressed me greatly: as soon as the fight started, she reacted very well. She put her chin down and started punching aggressively right away and never stopped.

    I have zero fighting training, but this is the thing that popped for me. She wasn’t one of these, “oh look what you did, that’s bad/unfair” ditherers. Once the pudgeball hit her, she was “on”, going after it. And that’s what you need to do. Her punches didn’t look like much, but she just kept going and going with no letup.

    Good for her!

    This is what precisely what’s required in these situations. The black girl was doing what some fraction of blacks do all the time in modern America–trying to abuse and humilate whitey. (In this case amped up by hatred of the cute by the ugly.) She wasn’t actually thinking “i’m going to punch it out with this Becky”. She was thinking i’m going to mock and abuse her. If the cheerleader had just punched back and stopped, there would have been “that all you got”, followed by more baiting, more baiting. But the cheerleader, correctly thought “this is on” and didn’t let up.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  20. Brabantian says: • Website

    In photos – Latina aide to Trump Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh, flashes ‘whites-ok!’ signals at Senate confirmation hearing

    Ms Zina Bash – half Latina, half Jewish, and Brett Kavanaugh’s former law clerk – at least THRICE gave the Euro-heritage-identity gestures, the OK hand signs & the Pepe the Frog hand-on-chin pose:

    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  21. JimB says:
    @AnotherDad

    Concord, CA, is an interesting place. Lots of flags out on national holidays. Churches are well attended. White folks in Concord still have pride.Unfortunately, that girl will probably move out of state after graduation.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    , @Prof. Woland
  22. This video is spreading all over the country. Fox News is even telling its viewers where to look (wink, wink).

    Anticipating further developments…

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Clyde
  23. @Twinkie

    ‘Here is my professional analysis. The girl doesn’t know how to fight, period. Her punches were all arm punches with zero hip rotations…

    Of course she doesn’t know how to fight. Why should a nice girl in a civilized society know how to fight?

  24. nebulafox says:
    @Anonymous

    You overestimate the affection a lot of black men have for their own women. And it is really hard to blame them, watching what they go through with them. Hell hath no fury…

  25. @Anonym

    ‘I like the NY Post more than the Slim blog, but this…

    Sprague then told the girl standing over her to get her finger out of her face, quickly escalating tensions as several witnesses looked on.

    So it was the diminutive white girl who escalated tensions, not the finger poking black female.

    Seconds later, the unidentified girl slapped Sprague in the face, sparking a brutal fight in which Sprague got the best of her antagonistic counterpart. At one point, Sprague is seen on top of the other girl, pummeling her with vicious, repetitive, closed-fist blows to her back and face…’

    I would guess the Post is just covering its ass. They can’t openly applaud a white girl fighting back — this is America. Be thankful they posted the video.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  26. Diversity is great, for example, for entertaining viral videos,…

    Some of these may get more views than a newsreel of the storming of the beaches of Normandy did. It’s kind of sad to think that. Yes, I watched it.

  27. Anonymous[480] • Disclaimer says:

    She didn’t get a takedown either. Her opponent tripped.

    That’s not what I’m seeing. The black girl was standing up and had to be leaning forward to keep her balance. The cheerleader grabbed her neck and pulled back, immediatly unbalancing the black girl.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Danindc
  28. @Wilkey

    What’s funny is that if you watch all the way to end you have a black guy laughing at a black girl getting beaten by a cute white girl.

    The video is edited—the cheerleader was getting (weakly) beaten on the ground by chunk-o before the cut where they disengage.

    But yeah, any kind of public fight is going to bring out a hooting “Worrrld Starrrr!!!” reaction, especially with certain demographics. As these things go, it was relatively civilized—no one else rushed in to sucker punch and some spectators seriously called for it to break up.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  29. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, not quite the elegance of Irimi Nage but that’s not tripping.

    Also, evidently dangerous on a concrete floor in a real fight if the partner doesn’t realize there is hard ground moving towards the back of the head really quickly all of a sudden.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Twinkie
  30. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    If you read the whole thing the point is that one American has heard that one or perhaps some Israelis thought that the fall of Assad might distract Iran from developing nuclear weapons and that could be good for Israel. It is heavily implied that what is good for Israel is of minor interest and one argument among very many.

  31. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, not quite the elegance of Irimi Nage but that’s not tripping.

    Aikido has no sparring/full resistance training. In other words, it’s fantasy. I trained in it for a few years in my early 20’s.* Every single Aikidoka I ever met – I mean every single one – couldn’t grapple his way out of a paper bag in real life. And most were physically very weak – I knew no Aikidoka who did serious strength/conditioning training. There are some elements in Aikido that are useful, two to be specific – the emphasis on circular/lateral movement (Tenkan/Tenshin) and draw-prevention/wrist locks off of your own draw (gun/knife), but even those are wasted in actual Aikido training due to the completely choreographed and non-resistant nature of its dancing, I mean, “training.”

    *I was a nationally-ranked Judoka at the time and was searching for some new “looks” to improve my Judo. For the same reason, I trained with a highly-ranked Div. I wrestling team in the Midwest at that time during its off-season. Unlike the Aikidoka, those wrestlers were no jokes, to be understated about it. I got smashed A LOT – by guys who were lower weight classes.

  32. AndrewR says:
    @Colin Wright

    It was nothing more than a catfight of the type I saw dozens of times growing up. I’m not sure why it’s national news.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  33. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    tripping

    By the way, if you want to see real trips that work on fully-resisting world class athletes, look no further than Ashi-Waza (foot techniques) in Judo:

  34. AndrewR says:
    @Twinkie

    How many teenage girls have had serious martial training??

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  35. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    Only on this site would one, in response to a video of a rather unnotable fight between teenage girls, see a comment about how one of the girls is what “the West” needs.

    • Troll: MikeatMikedotMike
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AnotherDad
  36. @Wilkey

    Nah, he’d still go for the Becky. It’s one of black-femaledom’s chronic complaints that their men always go first for the Beckys, uggo or not, before the Sisters.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  37. @Colin Wright

    Because even in the most civilized places, there ARE guys who need a punch in the balls or throat when they try to go too far on a date.

  38. Twinkie says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The video is edited—the cheerleader was getting (weakly) beaten on the ground by chunk-o before the cut where they disengage.

    She still did okay, I saw her up-kick to push her opponent away. Not bad for a completely untrained girl. She’s got no quit in her, which I like a lot.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  39. Twinkie says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why should a nice girl in a civilized society know how to fight?

    My girls are being raised to be poised ladies (graceful manners, ballet, American Heritage Girls, etc.). I still teach them Judo/Jujitsu, Kali (the knife portion), and shooting.

    There are bad people still, however few, in a civilized society. For that matter, I also teach them, along with my boys, basic plumbing, H/VAC, and automobile maintenance. My children are no Eloi and don’t count on there always being a civilized society.

    • Replies: @Silva
  40. @Anonymous

    So both of them are already potentially tainted?

    Great, just great.

  41. Twinkie says:
    @AndrewR

    How many teenage girls have had serious martial training??

    More than you think, nowadays.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/isla-diesmos-jiu-jitsu-calgary-1.4445441

    My kids’ Judo and Jujitsu schools are about half girls.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    , @Anonymous
  42. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    This is what precisely what’s required in these situations.

    However, good judgment trumps even fighting ability. As I learned early in life, nothing good can come of brawling with blacks. At minimum, she should have gotten up and created some distance, rather than sit still, engage in escalation, and get slapped/punched first. You don’t give freebies in a fight.

    Avoid, evade, escape, fight – in that order of priority (for civilians). Leave black-control to the people who get paid to take that risk, if you can help it.

  43. Trump’s phrase “they don’t know how to win – I will teach them!” sprang to mind. We can do great things when we stop being cucks and good at losing.

    • Replies: @Seth Largo
  44. George says:

    “Clayton Valley Charter High School” The first sign the charter school fad has run its course? Although I think there might still be economic reasons to keep it going.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  45. Danindc says:
    @Twinkie

    Here’s my analysis. People that watch women fight are mentally ill. The UFC is being ruined by these grylll power fights. It’s depraved.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  46. Danindc says:
    @Anonymous

    You guys should have the video looked at by a forensic analyst. That would be a good use for your time…

  47. Also-

    Sierra Sprague?

    Savannah Sprague?

    Were the parents trying to set their daughters up for careers in the adult industry?

    They should have gone all in and named them Jade and Star. Or Moon and Rain.

  48. Silva says:
    @Twinkie

    “Kali (the knife portion)” – why not the other parts?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  49. Pericles says:
    @Twinkie

    Aikido isn’t about grappling, it is merely guiding your partner to the ground where he can further reflect on how to better himself.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  50. Brutusale says:
    @Colin Wright

    Everyone should know how to defend themselves.

  51. Clyde says:
    @Colin Wright

    This video is spreading all over the country. Fox News is even telling its viewers where to look (wink, wink).

    So what…Don’t mean shiite until it is featured on WorldStar Hip Hop.

  52. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    its also whites have more to lose not only because the law/authority will treat us unfairly but we have GPAs homes intact families etc that we will lose. I once had a situation with some hells angels, there are people in the world who literally don’t care whether they live, die, or do 25-life. You are at a distinct disadvantage if you care about one of those things let alone a lot of other things.

    However we are fast approaching the point where whites (many white already there) have nothing or little to lose. This ranges from street level fights to cuckservatives losing their enlightenment religion and realizing there is no rule of law to uphold hasnt been for – well since lincoln.
    White are actually the best fighters much bigger than everyone else and only slower than blacks but blacks are so much stupider. The left has lost control and is over reaching and are going to unleash white rage soon

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  53. Thirdtwin says:
    @Brabantian

    Look carefully at that hand signal. It’s not “Ok”, it’s “3 Percent”. Don’t tell the Left.

  54. @Twinkie

    Video is pozzed grrrlpower crap.

  55. @George

    Charter schools aren’t any worse than public schools, but on average probably no better, either. They were probably better at first because early adopters were the most motivated students and parents. As use of charter schools becomes more widespread, performance reaches what is normal for the student population in the area.

    That’s because the biggest predictor of student success is the level of cognitive ability of the students. But you can’t say that

    • Replies: @George
  56. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Well, it’s martial art with the emphasis on Art (& possibly esoteric Philosophy and Lore, but I have no belief in Chi projection; Isaac Newton & Norbert Wiener are my homeboys) rather than break & hurtage. Once you go from the movement mode (which realistically could only be sustained in a very short knife fight, there is not enough knife work in Aikido, amazingly) and go into force & resistance mode, you indeed leave the Aikido domain of applicability. Better be prepared in that case.

    You could core Aikido down, leaving this:

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  57. @Anonymous

    Links, plus two more:

    Her twitter feed is pretty terrible anyway…

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  58. Has there been any mention of an actual motive behind the initial confrontation?

    That would be hugely revealing.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    , @Kylie
  59. @Wilkey

    “For the record, blonde Becky is a cheerleader, and hey, did you happen to know that cheerleaders are athletes and happen to be in pretty damn good shape? About half the cheerleaders I knew is HS were former gymnasts..”

    Amen to that, brother. That fat black sow has watched too many hip-hop videos and thought that beating up a white b*tch would be a walk in the park. But, as you say, cheerleaders are tough and in shape, they work out hard.

    The best girlfriend I ever had, a former cheerleader, would always tie that extra double knot in her shoelaces before we went out to play. That’s a sign, fellas, that she doesn’t intend to let anything untoward interfere with her fun. If you see a gal do that, give it all you’ve got. I’m not saying everything will turn out peachy, but at least, when it’s all over, you’ll know you’d been on a helluva ride.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  60. @Anonymous

    Why do black guys cheer black girls getting beaten by Beckys?

    Because they don’t see everything as a tribal race war like you do? It doesn’t look like the teens had grouped by race.

  61. @AnotherDad

    I hope this gal finds a good man and has ten kids. She’s got the fighting spirt the West needs.

    Uh… right…

    But don’t be surprised if she finds 25 not so good men and has 3 mulatto kids with 5 of them.

    She’s very comfortable around blacks and high aggression is a likely slut tell.

    She’s in a mixed at best probably black dominant school, spends her time around athletes and she is high value so she will get offers from the top ranking guys. Women are what they are, if the top ranking guys happen to be black, much of the time the women are happy with it (“natural traitors”) These things happen.

    We don’t so much need girls like her, we need older White men who will have the backs (formally and informally) of young White men when they step in to defend our women.

    The only reason Becky won this fight is because the black girl didn’t use the blacks’ most effective weapon which is the group stomp out.

    Women are the prize, not combatants

    • Agree: L Woods, Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Anonym
    , @AnotherDad
    , @Anon
  62. @Big Brutha

    “the sooner people know that you will respond to violence against your person with extreme prejudice the more quickly they learn that it is in their best interests to simply mind their own business”

    Some people enjoy picking fights because they know from experience they’re likely to win them.

  63. @theo the kraut

    This just helps illustrate how low White America has fallen. But just because Sierra and Savannah aren’t virginal maidens wandering in wheat fields doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy seeing one of them stand up for herself. You work with what you got.

  64. @The Alarmist

    “it’s one of black-femaledom’s chronic complaints that their men always go first for the Beckys, uggo or not”

    Paging Whiskey!

    Unattractive 49 yo prison teacher has affair with double murderer (his victims were two teenaged black women, collateral damage in a gang war).

    Samantha Drinkwater – I guess the guy was pretty thirsty.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6151417/Prison-teacher-49-jailed-two-years-carrying-sex-acts-dangerous-inmate.html

  65. @Anonymous

    “Blacks seem to react with laughter and joyful excitement at the sight of anyone getting beat up.”

    Right, and it seems to be genetic. In Negroes in Negroland the author quotes early explorers, missionaries and traders to Africa and they made the same observation. Whether the victim was human or an animal, blacks took great delight in watching violent conflict and torture. They laughed at the ensuing suffering.

    Too little credit is given to Southern plantation owners who took on the unenviable job of turning superstitious, stone-age brutes into some semblance of humanity that could function (to some degree) in western civilization. As is obvious, the process wasn’t completely successful, but knowing what we do today about genes, we can applaud them for their having done as good a job as they did. No doubt their realistic habit of literally breeding whites into the black gene pool is responsible for much of the progress Africans have made in their halting steps towards humanization.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Corvinus
  66. L Woods says:
    @Anonymous

    Color me shocked. I think my opinion of white women has bored through the inner core and is well on its way to China at this point.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  67. L Woods says:
    @AnotherDad

    Check comment #7. She’s probably a coal burner and definitely a basic bitch SJW. No hope to be seen here.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  68. L Woods says:
    @JimB

    Lots of flags out on national holidays. Churches are well attended.

    There’s nothing positive about either of those things.

  69. Joe H says:
    @Anonym

    Good catch. Also, also the correct term for the black girl would be assailant or attacker, not antagonistic counterpart. I’ll note in passing that judging by the reporter’s name, he is most likely Jewish. I was very impressed by the way this girl tried to de-escalate the situation, then defended herself forcefully after she was sucker-punched.

  70. Alfa158 says:
    @AndrewR

    Let me explain; it’s a man bites dog story. Blacks are used to intimidating and attacking people and expect Whites in particular to submit and just take it. This is a rare event where a White didn’t meekly surrender, but instead fought back. That is against the current day dogma, a black swan event and an act of social blasphemy.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Colin Wright
  71. Carol says:
    @Big Brutha

    That’s fine when everyone fights one on one.

    I’m surprised Shaqisha’s friends didn’t pile on.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  72. Anonym says:
    @Colin Wright

    I would guess the Post is just covering its ass. They can’t openly applaud a white girl fighting back — this is America. Be thankful they posted the video.

    I choose to thank the culture of critique by being relentlessly merciless in my criticism of it, its lying organs, and all that it holds dear. It seems apropos to mirror it this way after the contempt, enmity, lack of gratitude and general poor sportsmanship it has shown my people.

    With that, I think that it is right to report the news as it actually happens and not act like a propaganda outlet. When it does, first question is why, second question is who.

  73. @Anonymous

    That’s hardwired into us all. Stories about early TVs seem to always involve everyone coming over to watch wrestling.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Joe Schmoe
  74. @Alfa158

    Meh, this is life at most schools these days. Discipline is so patriarchal, so neglect becomes the default. Lord of the Flies doesn’t just apply to blacks.

  75. @anonymous

    Not really. It’s a sign of status anxiety, of people out of place.

  76. AndrewR says:
    @27 year old

    has 3 mulatto kids with 5 of them

    .

    You mean five kids with three of the men?

    • Replies: @27 year old
  77. Anonym says:
    @27 year old

    While you are right, it is gratifying to see someone get their comeuppance from an unlikely source. It is universal that people love seeing a small person who gets bullied by a big person and even gets hit first come back to dominate in a physical altercation. That is another reason why this is newsworthy.

  78. Mike1 says:
    @Twinkie

    I would bet good money you have never been in a real fight (i.e. one where losing could involve real problems).
    Your “professional analysis” has many tells but this is the best one: “And if both fighters have zero grappling training, whoever ends up on top – when they inevitably both fall – wins.” Real fights between men almost never end in rolling around on the ground. That is some fake dojo bs.
    The idea that whoever ends up on top just wins is also baffling. That is not remotely true.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @Twinkie
  79. @Big Brutha

    “One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure—and in some cases I have—that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.”

    – Jeff Cooper

  80. @Anonym

    I don’t think the black girl was hurt worse than a few bruises.

    BTW, anyone of the leftist/liberal bent is going to view the black girl as the victim in this situation. They cannot do otherwise, they’ve been well-programmed. The mere idea that the black girl is getting exactly what was coming to her will cause them to feel physically ill, nauseous, like Alex after he receives the aversion therapy of the Ludovico Technique.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Silva
  81. White Christian parents must have the ability to provide safety and security for their kids by having the kids go to schools free from non-Whites, non-Christians and White Christian Proletarian Undertow types that constantly cause trouble.

    That White young lady cheerleader should never have to deal with Black females such as the one that attacked her in such a vicious manner.

    Black females such as that creature who attacked the White young lady should be sent to live in Chappaqua New York, close by Hillary Clinton or to Malibu, California, where that Black female can live cheek by jowl with Rob Reiner.

  82. @anonymous

    The first time I heard a white person say that was Frank Zappa in the lyrics of “Trouble Every Day”: “Hey, you know something people? I’m not black, but there’s a whole lots a times I wish I could say I’m not white.”

  83. @Twinkie

    That kick would be something. Remember: gymnast muscles.

  84. George says:

    Vince (or Linda) McMahon call her agent before Dana White does! You can get to her first but have to move quickly. Keep everything including the bow on her head. If nobody else has said it, World Star World Star World Star …

  85. George says:
    @Cloudbuster

    The problem with Charter schools is they are sort of open source. There is no way to manage the charter brand. Incidents like this will ruin the charter branding, although I think education is due for a new fad anyway. Maybe the Charter brand is Highschool where the thugs can’t hit so good.

  86. Danindc says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    You should call the school. Investigate!!! Get to the bottom of this burning question.

  87. @ThreeCranes

    extra double knot in her shoelaces

    So a triple knot?

  88. @AndrewR

    ‘Only on this site would one, in response to a video of a rather unnotable fight between teenage girls, see a comment about how one of the girls is what “the West” needs.’

    Sometimes the ordinary things are what’s needed.

    Here in my town, there are two or three serious roofers. The one who relies on illegals just had his whole crew hauled off.

    You see a lot of white couples with two or three children.

    We’re got some petty theft, and a few fights, but no armed robbery, no murder, and no rape.

    These are ordinary things as well.

  89. A certain song comes to mind:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  90. @Alfa158

    ‘Blacks are used to intimidating and attacking people and expect Whites in particular to submit and just take it. This is a rare event where a White didn’t meekly surrender, but instead fought back. ‘

    Yeah. Here’s a war story that doesn’t cast me in an especially auspicious light — but call it truth in advertising.

    So it’s high school in the mid-seventies, and the school is about 20% black. Maybe six or seven of us are sitting around and maybe four black kids come up and start being obnoxious somehow.

    Eric jumps up and starts the back and forth with them. He’s not getting anywhere and then looks around.

    I’ve gotten up, and I’m standing about three feet back, with this sort of, ‘if this develops I’m diving in too — but I don’t want to’ attitude.

    Everyone else is still cowering back on the bench. ‘Cower’ is the right word, too.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jim Don Bob
  91. @Harry Baldwin

    This video clip showed me just how far self-styled progressives will go to coddle Blacks in America. They could have just let this embarrassing display of vibrancy go by without comment but they had to jump to the defence of their spoilt adult children.

  92. @AndrewR

    You mean five kids with three of the men?

    I mean she’s not sure who the fathers are but she kinda narrowed it down a little

  93. You’ll also notice that the dearth of white boys in this video. However, there are several young alpha men of colour in the immediate vicinity hooting, hollering and egging matters on. It seems as if the girls are fighting for the attention of the young black studs in the school.

    I mean, this Becky’s current chief goal in life is to cheer future black linebackers and cornerbacks.

    Do you see young white women from Spain, France, Italy and Eastern Europe taking on the cheerleader role? It is mainly the province of Anglospheric mudsharks.

    • Replies: @Silva
    , @Anonymous
  94. Lot says:
    @Twinkie

    Excellent advice on every point.

  95. JimB says:
    @L Woods

    You are, of course, entitled to your incorrect opinion.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  96. @Twinkie

    ‘Avoid, evade, escape, fight – in that order of priority (for civilians). Leave black-control to the people who get paid to take that risk, if you can help it.’

    Ahem. Then don’t whine when your women go with black men.

    In my experience, standing up to blacks is always a good idea. In sixth grade, I knocked one on his ass the first day of the school. I was left in peace the rest of the year.

  97. Twinkie says:
    @Silva

    ‘‘Kali (the knife portion)” – why not the other parts?

    I don’t think it’s as useful. I already do a lot with the kids – I have to make choices. The kids all have pocket knives.

  98. …when attacked by a fat black girl.

    The Daily Mail avoided using pronouns in their story and captions. It wasn’t all that clear to them that this was a girl.

    But worry not. In time, they and their countrymen will have as much experience with people of choler as we have.

  99. @Colin Wright

    Everyone else is still cowering back on the bench. ‘Cower’ is the right word, too.

    “People of cower”?

    Still, they might have been better schooled in Anglo-Saxon melee law than you or Eric.

  100. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, it’s martial art with the emphasis on Art

    It’s not martial anything. It’s just fantasy.

    You could core Aikido down, leaving this:

    You see anyone resisting at full-strength/-speed?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  101. @Twinkie

    However, good judgment trumps even fighting ability. As I learned early in life, nothing good can come of brawling with blacks. At minimum, she should have gotten up and created some distance, rather than sit still, engage in escalation, and get slapped/punched first. You don’t give freebies in a fight.

    Avoid, evade, escape, fight – in that order of priority (for civilians). Leave black-control to the people who get paid to take that risk, if you can help it.

    Agree and well said.

    (The one fight i was in where i was close to sustaining serious injury–getting pushed off a balcony–not just a black eye or some bruises was emminently avoidable. I realized that wasn’t the wisest set of decisions to end up in that situation.)

    However, this girl’s situation isn’t like–or as easy–as walking away from a bar fight, a party fight or street confrontation. I don’t know the circumstances here, but i presume this is at school–a football game? And while sure she could have–maybe–gotten up and walked off before the black pudgeball hit her, this was a bit hard to forsee. And she would be forfeiting her right/ability to sit just sit with fellow cheerleaders, do their girltalk and enjoy their gamenight experience.

    The fundamental problem here is that we have an “elite” that has been preaching minoritarianism for 50+ years and is now actively enabling–heck outright encouraging and egging on–blacks to get mad and abuse, harass or attack whitey.

    In a normal healthy nation–even allowing for “the legacy of slavery”–pudgeball wouldn’t have been doing this because the societal institutions–the schools, the police–really would be creating an environment where blacks (and likewise whites) knew, thoroughly and deeply, that it was a bad road to head down.

    But what we have is a situation where the super-state works actively to suppress the schools and cops from doing precisely that. (Example: Obama’s school disciple “disparate impact”.)

    This girl is in a situation where there really isn’t any “black control” on offer that is going to do their job and insure she can go through school in peace. If she wants to be able to enjoy her high school years, i think she really had to stand her ground and if the necessary fight back. Silly and potentially dangerous–sure. But that’s the world our “elites” have decided to inflict upon their white serfs.

  102. @Gilbert Ratchet

    Can a name get any whiter than Brooke Valentine?

    But yeah, she’s more of an Animal than Hilton Valentine ever was!

  103. @Pericles

    Aikido isn’t about grappling, it is merely guiding your partner to the ground where he can further reflect on how to better himself.

    I thought that was called “rape”.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  104. @Twinkie

    ‘Avoid, evade, escape, fight – in that order of priority (for civilians). Leave black-control to the people who get paid to take that risk, if you can help it.’

    The trouble with people like you is that you (at least potentially) make life worse for the rest of us.

    Since you always give way, you encourage blacks to attempt to bully all and sundry.

    That’s okay for people who genuinely like to fight — they periodically get their wish.

    …and there are such people. However, I’m not one of them. I merely have some self-respect — and I genuinely prefer it if strangers treat me with a modicum of respect, I reciprocate, and there’s no fight.

    And if people would stand up for themselves, we’d get our wish. Blacks are generally seeking helpless victims. I imagine people like you may make their identity clear, and if so, blacks can bully you. As long as you’re happy with the situation, and I don’t have to watch, that’s okay, as far as it goes.

    But sometimes blacks make a mistake. And then I have to get all excited and have some stupid confrontation. Perhaps even make up my mind to swing about…now. Even though the fights almost invariably don’t happen, they still get me all full of adrenaline and stuff.

    And I’d really rather not. So could you stand up for yourself? Or at least wear a shirt saying ‘victim’?

    It would avoid misunderstandings.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  105. @27 year old

    Women are the prize, not combatants.

    You might notice what i said: I didn’t say she should be Jean d’Arc and leads us in battle, i said “I hope she finds a good man and has ten kids.” I think i have my sex occupation specialities pretty well grounded.

  106. @Twinkie

    Well, it’s martial art with the emphasis on Art

    It’s not martial anything. It’s just fantasy.

    If you want martial art, art art, and fantasy all in one package, you can’t do better than capoeira. And the music isn’t bad, either.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Joe Schmoe
  107. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @27 year old

    The sister, who is bragging that she made it onto World Star Hip Hop before little sis did … I wonder that that involved?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmnd0Q6V4AU5LD0.jpg:large

  108. indocon says:
    @L Woods

    Concord is still fairly white (60% in 2010), and has been democratic for a long long time (registered Dems are 2.5X Reps), the diverse hordes are finally starting to conquer it though.

  109. eagles says:

    That white girl should be brought to the diversity courts and sentenced to a re-education camp.
    Blacks the perfect right to assault Beckys

  110. @JimB

    Clayton Valley used to be one of those suburban white enclaves that you saw on the fringes of the bay area but apparently it too is going multicultural. Parts of it are still 20 acre horse farms. It’s geographical isolation made it a more difficult commute but also helped keep out the riff-raff. But I guess the ‘nice’ school is not so nice any more or it is beginning to succumb to the benefits of diversity.

  111. L Woods says:
    @JimB

    What do either of them stand for but cultural Marxism, globohomo and cuckoldry?

  112. Silva says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Leftist and Liberal aren’t synonymous. I’m happy this happened, and would be happier for a non-Beckisha.

  113. @ThreeCranes

    Too little credit is given to Southern plantation owners who took on the unenviable job of turning superstitious, stone-age brutes into some semblance of humanity

    Too little opprobrium is given to the same men who could have spared us worlds of trouble by leaving those brutes back in the Stone Age, where they belonged.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Rob McX
  114. @Reg Cæsar

    ‘Too little credit is given to Southern plantation owners who took on the unenviable job of turning superstitious, stone-age brutes into some semblance of humanity

    Too little opprobrium is given to the same men who could have spared us worlds of trouble by leaving those brutes back in the Stone Age, where they belonged.’

    Lol. He’s right…he’s right too!

  115. The off-on topic ratio of this video can be worked out by anyone who’s interested. But note that it gives what each state is top and bottom in, not necessarily what is “best” and “worst”. I mean, Mississippi “wins” in porn viewership, and Oklahoma and Nevada in casinos, and Maine “loses” in diversity.

  116. Silva says:
    @Canadian Observer

    Well, cheerleading was mainly USian (and stupid) instead of European long before it became related to “mudsharking”. Worship ball-chasers (and the Europeans never bothered with cheerleading for soccer, at least), get this.

  117. @Carol

    ‘That’s fine when everyone fights one on one.

    I’m surprised Shaqisha’s friends didn’t pile on.’

    Shaqisha may not have been very popular. I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t the first girl she’s bullied.

  118. @L Woods

    Lots of flags out on national holidays. Churches are well attended.

    There’s nothing positive about either of those things

    Not if the churches are “welcoming” and the flags sport rainbows.

  119. Seemingly out of nowhere, despite generations of disavowal and disparagement, the Saxon blood arises, the Kampfgeist comes to the fore. Her hands formed a fist and pressed forward, like her mothers through the centuries when the Skraelings or the Zulu appeared at the edge of the clearing….and Westward Ho!

  120. Another aspect of this that’s worth mentioning is that being a girl being confronted by another girl, she could afford to wait to take a punch before fighting.

    That isn’t a good idea for adolescent or adult males. Men just hit too damned hard. Let someone get in the first punch, and you’re half-way to losing. In fact, that seems to be more or less the way the ‘knock out game’ works, if I understand the reference correctly.

    …so the male version of this video would show the white boy just starting to swing while the black was still playing intimidation gesture games.

    If you want to win, it’s a good idea to make it that way. Punch first, punch hard, keep punching, and maybe it would be best if people weren’t filming.

  121. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    What self-defense or martial arts training would you recommend to a novice?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @anon
  122. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Do you send them to classes for Judo AND separate classes for Jujitsu?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  123. Kylie says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    “Has there been any mention of an actual motive behind the initial confrontation?

    That would be hugely revealing.”

    Uh…because it “thought” it could?

    No need to overthink this demographic’s motivations.

  124. @AndrewR

    Only on this site would one, in response to a video of a rather unnotable fight between teenage girls, see a comment about how one of the girls is what “the West” needs.

    Andrew, maybe you just have no specific-to-general “sensibility”, but i stand by this.

    The West is not in any sort of material crisis. (The material threat is China, but they aren’t what’s killing us now.) The Italian navy alone could quickly end this invasion of Africans. The American situation is more technically complicated but still ridiculously trivial–a few divisions to the border now, a wall, e-verify, enforcement, ending refugee racket, closing legal immigration, ending the tyranny and allowing people to self-segregate as they chose. Quite straightforward, uncomplicated actions.

    The crisis is entirely one of attitude. Whites who have been so pickled in the Jewish minoritarian/anti-nationalist narrative/propaganda–holocaust!, slavery! Jim Crow! colonialism! racism, racism, racism!–that they are unwilling to stand up for themselves and virtue signal their willingness to be killed off. And whites who don’t.

    Sure it would be great if whites read Sailer and understood HBD, or picked up Richard Lynn and went “hmm”. Great if they read the classics and really felt the incredible richness and greatness of the West. Great if they returned to the old faith, the old ways. Great, great, great. But not immediately necessary.

    Bottom line, all it takes to win is whites who think and feel–this is mine and you aren’t taking it.

    If most whites stand up for themselves like this girl or Victor Orban–we win. If whites think/feel/behave like Molly Tibbets and her “i’d have my daughter raped and killed then give up Mexican food” dad–we die.

  125. prosa123 says: • Website

    Whites are afraid of different minorities in different ways. We are afraid of blacks as individuals (which also includes small ad hoc groups), but not as organized groups. Consider: you’re walking toward your car in a nearly deserted parking garage and you see a black man (or a group of black teens) walking your way. Whether they’ll admit it or not, most white people will have at least a momentary twinge of fear even if the black man is not making any threatening gestures. In contrast, outside of prisons I doubt that many whites fear the Crips or Bloods, and we see no military threat from any black-ruled nations.

    With Arabs it’s the opposite. Our fear is collective rather than individual. Returning to the parking garage scenario, if you’re going to your car and you see an Arab (assuming you identify him as such), you’re unlikely to be frightened at all. Yet we’re utterly petrified of al-Qaeda and ISIS, and of war with Arab countries.

    As for Hispanics, white people might have a bit of fear of them as individuals, but it’s pretty minimal, and once again outside of prisons we don’t worry about the Surenos or La Eme or similar gangs. With Asians, there’s no fear of them as individuals except maybe to a slight extent in Hawaii, and definitely not on a group basis.

  126. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @L Woods

    Color me shocked. I think my opinion of white women has bored through the inner core and is well on its way to China at this point.

    Except that it’s the fault of White men. Their cowardice and stupidity. The women are just going with what they understand to be society’s value system and hierarchy.

  127. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @L Woods

    There’s nothing positive about either of those things.

    There isn’t? Why not?

    • Replies: @L Woods
  128. Pericles says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not quite, but I think you’re better off with Judo in that case.

  129. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    That’s hardwired into us all.

    No it isn’t. And for people who have evolved cooperation and altruism it makes sense that it isn’t.

    Stories about early TVs seem to always involve everyone coming over to watch wrestling.

    Never heard one of these “stories” in my life.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Ozymandias
  130. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Canadian Observer

    It seems as if the girls are fighting for the attention of the young black studs in the school.

    There could be something to this.

  131. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    I mean, she fought back against a girl who got up in her face and slapped her. Not really that noteworthy. And you’re comparing her to the President of Hungary (who, incidentally, is a cuck anyway (http://www.unz.com/akarlin/why-hungary-ethnically-cleansed-richard-spencer/ ]). You’re really overthinking this. Btw, read her sister’s tweets. It seems this family has assimilated to blackness.

    • Replies: @bomag
  132. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    Oops, the editing feature on this site is awful. Here’s a citation for my claim that your idol is a cuck

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/why-hungary-ethnically-cleansed-richard-spencer/

  133. @AnotherDad

    And while sure she could have–maybe–gotten up and walked off before the black pudgeball hit her, this was a bit hard to forsee. And she would be forfeiting her right/ability to sit just sit with fellow cheerleaders, do their girltalk and enjoy their gamenight experience.

    If she wants to be able to enjoy her high school years, i think she really had to stand her ground and if necessary fight back.

    Totally agree. The ongoing repercussions in her social milieu for retreating or showing deference would be unacceptable.

    Her spirited reaction could teach some Eeyores here that daydream about Red State secession: If you simply give up ground, you’re signaling that you’re going to keep giving up. Be ready and able to fight in place. For Americans, that’s America.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  134. Steve, are all my comments first pass whims now because I hurt your feelings?

    Before anyone comments on this punch, remember the haymaker that the Proud Boy threw which turned the Antifa from figuratively to literally brain dead?

    • Replies: @L Woods
  135. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Too many people here (host included) think the highest form of resistance is pithy comments on a niche blog.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  136. Rob McX says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s something you don’t see emphasised very often – the “slave power” was the original cheap labour lobby. Maybe you should be thankful that America didn’t retain the institution for as long as Brazil – or Saudi Arabia.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @res
  137. Twinkie says:
    @Colin Wright

    The trouble with people like you is that you (at least potentially) make life worse for the rest of us.

    I run toward trouble, not away from it. But I have the requisite professional training. Even though I am now a civilian, I have long guns, body armor, and a trauma kit (with lots of Israeli bandages) in my car and I always have a handgun, a knife, and a flashlight on my body.

    My advice is a sound one for civilians with no training.

    So could you stand up for yourself? Or at least wear a shirt saying ‘victim’?

    I grew up fighting black kids. I boxed and trained in Judo among other things (I am a high level Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu blackbelt). I have considerable close quarters combat experience overseas from doing CT work. Go do your “self-respect” display with someone else.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @anon
  138. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but people who do capoeira are usually in good physical shape. You can’t say that about most Aikidoka.

  139. @anon

    Sounds like something my daughter would say.

    One time she and some friends, all female athletes, including a petite Asian martial artist, were being incessantly bullied at a basketball game by some ghetto girls with nothing to lose. Had my daughter and her friends fought, their futures could be lost. The ghetto girls didn’t care because they had nothing to lose. So my daughter and her friends did everything they could to avoid a fight, walking away multiple times after getting pushed and shoved.

    In this video, the cheerleaders are the kids with a future. The bully has nothing to lose. So the cheerleaders have to avoid a fight at all costs, until they can’t. Then and only then is the one cheerleader in a position where she can’t avoid the fight and its consequences, so why not fight back?

    The big mistake the bully made — pushing a girl with something to lose into a corner. Had she eased up slightly, she could continue her bullying with impunity as long as the cheerleader had some way to avoid a fight.

  140. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    And while sure she could have–maybe–gotten up and walked off before the black pudgeball hit her

    If you know a fight is coming, you don’t want to start handicapped (sitting down while your opponent is standing). Hence what I wrote earlier: “At minimum, she should have gotten up and created some distance, rather than sit still, engage in escalation, and get slapped/punched first. You don’t give freebies in a fight.”

    What highly trained fighters have over amateurs are not just better techniques (or knowledge of techniques) and better physical attributes, they are intangible abilities such as distance management and timing (and moral qualities such as confidence and courage). If you have a decent amount of fight training, you either create distance or clinch. Trading in the pocket is a dangerous – and unwise – business.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  141. @Rob McX

    Vdare.com has been calling immigration enthusiasts the “Slave Power” for years now.

  142. @L Woods

    I am astonished at the conclusions you and some others jump to on the basis of so little evidence. You know nothing about her yet you dismiss her as some trashy slut.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  143. @Jack Hanson

    Too many people here (host included) think the highest form of resistance is pithy comments on a niche blog.

    “The riches are in the niches.” — modern marketing axiom

    I don’t recall anyone here calling his activity “the highest form of resistance”. For many, it’s the most they do, or can do, at the moment. Others are involved in local groups or political parties or publishing or whatever, but don’t go into detail here.

    At any rate, your comment also lacks any suggestion about what commenters here should do instead. So, tua culpa.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  144. L Woods says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    In the current year, one has a >50% chance of being correct by simply accusing a young woman of such at random.

  145. L Woods says:
    @Jack Hanson

    I don’t remember that, actually. Thanks for brightening my day though!

  146. L Woods says:
    @Anonymous

    What do either of them stand for but cultural Marxism, globohomo and cuckoldry?

  147. Anonym says:
    @Twinkie

    Yes. Geoff Thompson has good advice in this regard. Be on yellow then red alert, get up, create space, use “the fence”, have your back to an exit.

    I didn’t learn this until my twenties but off the sporting field I never got sucker punched. In the one situation at school with a bigger opponent I was sharp enough to get to my feet at the verbal stage. And as it escalated I struck first, missed, but followed up like an animal I am happy to say. I was minding my own business; he shouldn’t have bullied in the first place. Why did I learn those skills of fight anticipation? When you are a late grower, you learn some healthy paranoia around other kids.

    It didn’t end up on the ground, but I have since seen other real adult fights a couple times that have done so, with likely brain damage for those as it involved a lot of unanswered strikes and/or bashing heads against concrete. You really want to avoid having positional disadvantage against someone who means you harm, as at that point you are at their mercy.

    Actually there were a couple of other times I got into schoolyard confrontations but they started off standing and opponents were similar size so I felt less precautions needed to be taken.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  148. @Twinkie

    I grew up fighting black kids.

    How did you know they weren’t gonna pull out knives and dramatically change the odds?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  149. TheJester says:

    The problem is Black empowerment … Black males, females, and politicians feeling newly empowered to trounce White people without consequences.
    __________

    Aside: I watched the movie, “Disgrace”, referenced by iSteve in a different context. It was set in South Africa at the onset of Black empowerment. But I don’t think it was only about Black empowerment. It was about power differentials (who has them and who does not) and how people exploit those differences. Exploiting power differentials, as it were, ” disgrace” some people … but not others.

    The character played by John Malkovich is a university professor who takes advantage of his power differential with a female “colored” student. Although it was consensual, the professor is exposed and loses his job.

    The character retreats to a rural farm owned by his daughter. Three Black youth roam through their ranchette. Exuberant over the changing racial and political power differential at the end of Apartheid, they beat up the professor, souse him with alcohol, and light him on fire. They serially rape the daughter.

    Nothing happens to the attempted murders and rapists. It’s the new South Africa. The daughter is pregnant by one of them. She concludes that the power differential in South Africa is such that her future must be to align herself with or marry a Black “Big Man” who can protect her. She needs a man that the newly empowered Blacks males are afraid of. She informs her father, “This is the new reality …!

    John Malkovich’ character recognizes his abuse of power, seeks out the family of the “colored” girl with who he had consensual sex, and begs for their forgiveness. The Blacks in the community go about their business as if nothing had happened. Whites, it appears, deserve their fate.
    __________

    We are experiencing something similar in the United States. As in South Africa, the (((Globalists))) are hoping to create a new power differential in the United States that puts Blacks in a permanent state of animosity and conflict against the White population that created the country, its culture, and its wealth. That is what the rapes, the robberies, the kneeling at the National Anthem, and (yes) Serena Williams’ tantrum are all about … a feeling of empowerment as the power differential slowly moves in their favor. When it does, it exposes the Law of the Jungle … with White women starting to look for Black “Big Men” who can protect them from diversity and other victims of intersectional oppression looking for revenge.

    As the daughter said in the movie, “It’s the new reality …”

    Recall that, after Serena Williams latest tantrum, the Woman’s Tennis Association expressed its support for Willaims. The power differential must, it seems, be moving in the direction of empowering women and all of the diverse minorities within the Coalition of the Fringes at the expense of “Toxic White Male Masculinity”.

    White women, however, will have to eventually decide which side they are on. Otherwise, there won’t be enough Black “Big Men” to go around. At that point, as in the movie, “Beckies” are fair game.

  150. Corvinus says:
    @ThreeCranes

    “Too little credit is given to Southern plantation owners who took on the unenviable job of turning superstitious, stone-age brutes into some semblance of humanity that could function (to some degree) in western civilization.”

    Except what you are characterizing here is completely inaccurate. Those “superstitious, stone-age brutes” had actually formed civilizations. And the methods employed by Christian slave owners, who ought to have picked their own damn cotton, was observably and demonstrably against what the Good Book said about treating their fellow human beings.

    “No doubt their realistic habit of literally breeding whites into the black gene pool is responsible for much of the progress Africans have made in their halting steps towards humanization.”

    Based on this comment, it is obvious you got beaten up, and deservedly so, by some darkies back in the day.

  151. @Desiderius

    That’s hardwired into us all.

    No, it isn’t.

    I will grant that there is no group of people utterly devoid of such elements, however it occurs with far greater frequency in some groups than others.

  152. @Reg Cæsar

    It looks gay.

    I am sure these guys, like cheerleaders, could kick some tail, but that is not what they are doing there.

  153. @Corvinus

    ‘…Based on this comment, it is obvious you got beaten up, and deservedly so, by some darkies back in the day.’

    ‘Three Cranes’ isn’t sufficiently polite and respectful, I take it.

    You know, I get tired of this rampant double standard. Ever read any of the crap Black Muslims preach? Yet I don’t feel entitled to beat one of them up if I see one selling their paper. They can have any views they like. It doesn’t give me a license to physically attack them.

    How come the reverse is true?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  154. @Corvinus

    “beaten up, and deservedly so”

    And the mask slips. Your employers won’t be happy.

  155. @Anonymous

    The cooperation isn’t evolved Mr. Lysenko, that’s why children have to be raised.

  156. @Corvinus

    ‘Except what you are characterizing here is completely inaccurate. Those “superstitious, stone-age brutes” had actually formed civilizations. ‘

    Name the one major race that never developed a written language, never built a structure more elaborate than a stone wall, and if it developed metallurgy on its own, mysteriously skipped the bronze age and went straight to the iron age.

    There’s never been an indigenous black civilization. There’ll never be a functional black state, in the modern sense. On their own, blacks appear to be incapable of rising above the early neolithic — and left to their own devices, would probably retreat to about that level.

    Black intellectual inferiority is one of those awkward facts — like global warming, or the reality of the Holocaust, or the dancing Israelis at 9/11. Some may find it ideologically intolerable that it is so.

    Nevertheless, it remains so.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  157. @TheJester

    ‘…White women, however, will have to eventually decide which side they are on. Otherwise, there won’t be enough Black “Big Men” to go around. At that point, as in the movie, “Beckies” are fair game.’

    This is probably a bit paranoid. Studies have shown that subconsciously, people find sexual relations between blacks and other races profoundly revolting.

    More generally, groups that have been forced into submission — Jews, Christians in Muslim states and vice-versa, Asians in the American West — haven’t actually had any problem holding onto their women.

    Becky’s going to stick with you, no fear. About the only thing that could prevent this would be a continuation of the insistent propaganda that inter-racial sexual relations are somehow normal and even desirable. Stop the disgusting ads, and there’ll be no problem.

    There’s your problem. The people who are pushing this crap.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  158. @Reg Cæsar

    Let’s not run to autistic “nah nah no one has LITERALLY SAID THOSE WORDS so obviously not true” mendacious obtuseness right out the gate, but the general attitude of Steve and the rest of the Boomer Brigade in the face of believing Hillary was going to win was acceptance that they would be gulag’d soon enough. Anything stronger than a mincing letter to the editor was whimmed on sight. Hell, there s plenty of examples of “doooooom” in this thread. Look at Jester stating America is gonna turn into South Africa as if its inevitable. Soy poisoning is real!

    As for “whatcha gonna do about it Ranger”? I got my plans. Too many other people here simply see “lay down and die” as a way forward.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @anon
  159. Twinkie says:
    @Johann Ricke

    How did you know they weren’t gonna pull out knives and dramatically change the odds?

    I didn’t. I was young and stupid… and suffered accordingly.

  160. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you send them to classes for Judo AND separate classes for Jujitsu?

    Yes. But at home we roll with everything.

  161. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    What self-defense or martial arts training would you recommend to a novice?

    Describe this novice for me. Age, sex, fitness level. Also, what’s the main objective?

  162. Twinkie says:
    @Jack Hanson

    I got my plans.

    Individual plans are well and good if you want to disappear into the woods, but if you want to start (let alone win) an insurgency, you need people.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    , @Anonymous
  163. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Mike1

    He reminds me of Cliff Clavin from Cheers.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Anonymous
  164. George says:

    The unexpurgated version has the larger competitor rallying at the end.

    Cheerleader Fight **Unedited Version**

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=u3PRB_1536500750

  165. @TheJester

    … feeling newly empowered to trounce White people without consequences

    In the U.S., some blacks may feel that way, but it isn’t even close to reality. Of course, that doesn’t mean whites should get complacent. The primary victories and presidential election of Trump indicates that a significant number of whites know what’s up.

  166. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Respectfully disagree. I think American anti-intellectualism (or, perhaps more accurately, apathy towards intellectualism) has gotten us where we are today. We defined a successful life in terms of simple values (mostly economic) which left us vulnerable. If your only concern is having a house with a picket fence, or the size of the GDP, or how high the stock market closes, it’s very easy for the cultural left to frame its arguments in terms that invalidate your concerns. Americans in the old days had vague ideas that certain things were just “right” and others were “wrong,” but they could never really articulate it in anything besides religious terms. Now that religion is basically a dead letter…why shouldn’t we have gay marriage? Why not let trannies use the woman’s bathroom? What’s wrong with immigration from anywhere in the world? They’re people after all, just like we are.

    We make fun of Europe, but I see their politicians standing up and articulating right-wing positions that are not just economic: they talk in terms of national identity and human dignity, and a decent chunk of the population listens to them. Orban is a good example: when he talks about immigration he doesn’t just talk in terms of crime rates, he gets to the core of what it means to be Hungarian and what is important in life, beyond money and material things. He speaks to deep values, and his people listen. A truly revolutionary leader, which is what we really need, can’t just be bluster and he can’t be simple: he has to be inspiring, he needs to give voice to things people know but can’t find the words for.

  167. @Colin Wright

    You and Jester working that “good cuck/bad cuck” routine?

  168. @Twinkie

    We agree more than you know, but if you think I’m discussing plans on iStevia dawt com, Lol.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  169. anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    And yet again the aspergtastic Twinkster doesn’t get the joke.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  170. @Danindc

    “Here’s my analysis. People that watch women fight are mentally ill. The UFC is being ruined by these grylll power fights. It’s depraved.”

    I got my seventy year old mother started watching MMA a couple of years ago. Now the old penny-pincher even purchases some of the pay per view bouts. In fact, I just talked to her and she’s rewatching Jedrzejczyk/Namajunas now. Think I’ll go over and watch it with her.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  171. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson

    You’re wasting your time Jack. Both Reg Cobb and the Twinksperger are mental cases. Useless.

  172. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    I run toward trouble, not away from it.

    Is your middle name … Danger? Just askin’ ;)

    I grew up fighting black kids. I boxed and trained in Judo among other things (I am a high level Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu blackbelt). I have considerable close quarters combat experience overseas from doing CT work.

    No, you didn’t. You’re a fabulist, and not even a good one.

    Go do your “self-respect” display with someone else.

    Wow! That’s very butch.

    • Troll: Twinkie
    • Replies: @anon
  173. Gene Su says:

    I’m just waiting for the NAACP to cry racism… the minorities who cry wolf.

    Incidents like these bring these quote to mind:

    Well… tell you what. Curley’s like a lot of little guys. He hates big guys. He’s alla time picking scraps with big guys. Kind of like he’s mad at em because he ain’t a big guy. You seen little guys like that, ain’t you? Always scrappy?

    Never did seem right to me. S’pose Curley jumps a big guy an’ licks him. Ever’body says what a game guy Curley is. And s’pose he does the same thing and gets licked. Then ever’body says the big guy oughtta pick on somebody his own size, and maybe they gang up on the big guy. Never did seem right to me. Seem like Curley ain’t givin’ nobody a chance.

    John Steinbeck
    Of Mice and Men

  174. MBlanc46 says:

    Dang, if she hadn’t been outweighed by about a hundred pounds, the Becky might have done real damage to the Negress.

  175. @Anonymous

    “Never heard one of these “stories” in my life.”

    Prior to television, circuit wrestling was a very popular form of entertainment. In the early days of television, a lot of that wrestling was televised because it was cheap content to generate. The rise of television coincided with the rise of wrestling as a form of staged entertainment. Probably no person was more responsible for that than Gorgeous George. In fact, a very convincing argument could be made that he was one of the people most responsible for modern pop culture.

    https://www.si.com/vault/1969/03/17/559699/george-was-villainous-gutsy-and-gorgeous

    https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/how-muhammad-alis-fascination-with-pro-wrestling-fueled-his-career-inspired-mma/

    “Never heard one of these “stories” in my life.”

    I advise you to talk to more interesting people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  176. @AnotherDad

    That was a well thought out response. I think you just caught Andrew on one of his “bad liquor” days.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  177. res says:
    @Rob McX

    It is interesting to compare and contrast slavery era “sides” with the present day. Two examples that come to mind are:
    - I think the closest present day moral analog to the abolitionists are the pro-choice people.
    - As you observed, the cheap labor aspect of slavery corresponds well with present day immigration advocacy.

    What makes these interesting to me is that in both analogies the SJWs align with the pro-slavery forces.

    P.S. For a third analogy, consider present day views on the three-fifths compromise.

  178. Twinkie says:
    @Mike1

    Real fights between men almost never end in rolling around on the ground. That is some fake dojo bs.

    Your comment is dumb as rocks, but this is especially stupid. Fights go to the ground all the time.

    The idea that whoever ends up on top just wins is also baffling.

    Moron, I wrote when neither party has grappling training, whoever is on top wins. Because the guy on top is going to rain down blows to the head of the guy on the bottom.

    I would bet good money you have never been in a real fight

    You would lose all your money.

    Anyone who has even a tiny bit of serious combat training and/or fight experience knows what I am talking about.

  179. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    He reminds me of Cliff Clavin from Cheers.

    I never saw the show, but I get the sense you mean to disparage me in some way.

    Look, I can tell your pride was wounded, because you just don’t know as much about fighting as I do, but this is an area in which I have serious expertise accumulated over decades through training and experience. I am not bullshitting or trolling when I write down analyses of how fights go or provide training or technical suggestions to others. Try to set your ego aside on this one.

    If we were discussing body building or weight lifting, I’d defer to your apparent expertise (I only know about strength and conditioning training specific to combat sports). I wouldn’t get sour about it because you knew more about it than I did.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  180. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    I like what Harold Covington said. “In an insurgency, the generals never surrender. The accountants do”.

    They bought the IRA off because the IRA got hold of Semtex and started blowing up financial institutions.

    If you want to win you need a crew of determined and competent people who will make continued struggle too expensive, in whatever the coin of the realm is. The enemy must perceive that you will fight forever, and that he will go bankrupt before then.

  181. Twinkie says:
    @Anonym

    You really want to avoid having positional disadvantage against someone who means you harm, as at that point you are at their mercy.

    That’s why the mantra in Brazilian Jujitsu is “Position before submission.” Positional dominance allows you to strike your opponent without giving your opponent the same opportunity against you. When I was young, I’ve ended quite a few fights raining down 12-6 o’clock elbows to the back of the neck of my opponent after I threw him and back-mounted him (most untrained people turtle after getting thrown).

    You know how morons with zero fight experience/training say, “I’ll just gouge that guy’s eyes” or some idiotic stuff like that instead of learning how to escape bad positions (such as learning the basic bridge-and-roll)? I just shake my head – “Moron, what makes you think that *I* can’t gouge *your* eyes? And if I have the dominant position (mount, side mount, Kesa Gatame/Scarf-hold, etc.), I surely can gouge the heck out of your eyes better than you ever can do to me!”

  182. Anonymous[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    He reminds me of Cliff Clavin from Cheers.

    Nah! Cliff actually knew a few things. Now if he claimed a black belt in douché-baggery, that I would believe.

  183. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ozymandias

    http://www.robertsgriffin.com/Gorgeous.pdf

    On Gorgeous George,
    Robert S. Griffin

    Griffin, who wrote the biography of William Pierce, has a sympathetic four page paper on George Wagner, who became “Gorgeous George”. It’s a pdf that doesn’t map out well when cut and pasted, so I won’t. But it’s worth reading.

  184. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    If you want to win you need a crew of determined and competent people

    That’s necessary but not sufficient. You can’t win an insurgency unless you have some reservoir of popular support. An insurgent group is not an island – it needs continual flows of support, money, and recruits, and a sympathetic (and fearful) larger population that aids it.

    They bought the IRA off because the IRA got hold of Semtex and started blowing up financial institutions.

    Wars of national liberation have a slightly different dynamic than civil wars with no outside/foreign occupying power.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  185. Twinkie says:
    @anonymous

    And yet again the aspergtastic Twinkster doesn’t get the joke.

    I got the joke. I just didn’t find it that funny, and also decided to repurpose it for a more serious conversation.

    By the way, what’s with this Asperberger’s ad hominem bit? Is this some sort of a millennial thing? Everytime some guppy around here doesn’t like a comment, it’s a boomer-this or aspergy-that.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Anonymous
    , @anon
  186. anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I train in karate. My son is small and very tough, but isn’t interested in martial arts classes. For self defense, I tell him if he is ever seriously threatened (an adult trys to hurt him, for example), to kick them hard in the nuts, punch them in the nuts and throat, and generally to punch and kick as fast and aggressively as possible at their softest spots. It’s not a boxing match – you try to kill them.
    I watched the earlier Judo video showing trips. The fighters stand wide-legged as they grapple each other. Kick him in the nuts! Hit him in the throat! Grab his head and break his neck! Kill him! That’s self defense.

  187. Twinkie says:
    @Ozymandias

    I just talked to her and she’s rewatching Jedrzejczyk/Namajunas now. Think I’ll go over and watch it with her.

    First one or second? Thug Rose vs. Jessica Andrade would be a very interesting fight from a technical point of view.

  188. Twinkie says:
    @Jack Hanson

    if you think I’m discussing plans

    Then why even bring up that you have a plan?

    You could also discuss hypotheticals very generically.

  189. @Anonymous

    They bought the IRA off because the IRA got hold of Semtex and started blowing up financial institutions.

    They bought the IRA off because they were 20th century Brits. William Longshanks would have crushed the IRA using methods that are not pretty by today’s standards. These are methods used by the Germans and the Japanese during WWII, by Communist victors in the immediate aftermath of revolutionary victory, by Latin Americans fighting insurgencies and by Third World countries, in general. They’re time-tested methods employed probably since the first tribal chief “united” all the tribes around his home territory, by hacking down all the tribal chiefs around him that resisted, along with their kin.

  190. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    That’s necessary but not sufficient. You can’t win an insurgency unless you have some reservoir of popular support.

    I completely agree.

    In Covington’s novels, he posited that there were just enough people in the general population who actively supported the revolutionaries-”spuckies” , “goots”, or “Jerry Reb”, he referred to them as-to provide active cover, a few who actively opposed them (they tended to be dispensed with, and soon enough just ran out of the area on realizing the federal government could not protect them) , many who did not like them but would not actively do anything about it (primarily business interests who correctly felt that this revolution stuff was bad for business) , and a majority who, as in the 1776 colonial revolution, did not give two shits either way.

    I would say that any similar revolution attempted today would not anywhere in the US have sufficient popular support, and damn sure not in the Pacific Northwest. I would also say that that could change in the next decades. I think that, like him or not, no one has done more to sap the general level of antigovernment resentment necessary amongst all but a miniscule few than Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  191. @Anonymous

    They bought the IRA off because the IRA got hold of Semtex and started blowing up financial institutions.

    That would have been Edward Longshanks. Somehow I thought Edward Longshanks and typed a mishmash of William the Conqueror and Edward Longshanks.

  192. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Twinkie

    Clavin wasn’t a bad guy, but he was sort of a human Wikipedia.

    I claim no special knowledge of any subject, and my pride wasn’t wounded by your comment, though I didn’t entirely agree with it. I take your word that I used the MMA term “mount” wrong, when I meant to say she simply got on top of the other girl. Your two other main points I found irrelevant (that she wasn’t a trained fighter) and wrong (that she didn’t take down the larger girl, and that the larger girl coincidentally tripped when the blonde appeared to take her down). Obviously, the blonde wasn’t a trained puncher, but her hammer fist arm punches worked well in this context: she won the fight, apparently without seriously injuring herself or her opponent, either of which might have happened had she thrown boxing or karate-style punches using her knuckles and putting her body weight behind the shots.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  193. bomag says:
    @AndrewR

    It seems this family has assimilated to blackness.

    Well, we live in an era of forced integration, so someone’s plans are working out, and I don’t mean the Jews.

    This is news from the margin, and it is better than the usual obituary.

  194. @Twinkie

    By the way, what’s with this Asperberger’s ad hominem bit? Is this some sort of a millennial thing? Everytime some guppy around here doesn’t like a comment, it’s a boomer-this or aspergy-that.

    It’s the meaningless generic putdown/ad hominem of the moment for debating points that can’t be refuted.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  195. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Name the one major race that never developed a written language, never built a structure more elaborate than a stone wall, and if it developed metallurgy on its own, mysteriously skipped the bronze age and went straight to the iron age.

    You’re saying Africans learned metalworking from outsiders? The Romans?

  196. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “You know, I get tired of this rampant double standard. Ever read any of the crap Black Muslims preach? Yet I don’t feel entitled to beat one of them up if I see one selling their paper. They can have any views they like. It doesn’t give me a license to physically attack them.”

    Of course.

    “How come the reverse is true?”

    It is true only for members of the Coalition of the Fringes, not normies, aka the mushy middle.

    “Name the one major race that never developed a written language, never built a structure more elaborate than a stone wall, and if it developed metallurgy on its own, mysteriously skipped the bronze age and went straight to the iron age.”

    Right, blacks, whites, Asians, and indigenous peoples ALL did these things.

    “There’s never been an indigenous black civilization.”

    You’re just being silly.

    https://www.history.com/news/7-influential-african-empires

    “There’ll never be a functional black state, in the modern sense.”

    What are your metrics regarding “functional”?

    “On their own, blacks appear to be incapable of rising above the early neolithic — and left to their own devices, would probably retreat to about that level.”

    And now you have just debased yourself like your buddy ol’ pal Three Cranes.

  197. @Corvinus

    Nope. Never got beat up by a bro. Knew and liked plenty of them in high school and, of course, wrestled and beat them regularly during practice and in wrestle offs to make the team.

    Most likely I didn’t get beat up because “back in the days” i.e. before the 1967 riots, blacks were decent folk. They were approachable and open. After the riots, not.

    My final break with blacks came with their embrace of Rap. Way back in 1984 when I first heard it at a party, I figured (correctly as it turns out) that blacks had chosen to go their own degenerate way. Since then, unencumbered by white expectations and influence, blacks have been in the process of reverting to their pre-slavery African form and in doing so, destroying every American institution in which they play a significant part.

    I think that they should get their own culture; create their own football leagues, baseball, tennis, track, basketball as well. Why do they believe that they have the right to appropriate our white/Euro civilization (and then complain when things don’t go just their way)? Oprah’s got the money. Why doesn’t she team up with LeBron and Serena and make black leagues for blacks? Then and there, if they don’t want to stand for the anthem, they can squat and shit on the American flag if they like and nobody would give a damn.

    If they had any balls they would take their sorry act elsewhere; but they prefer to be slaves and whine instead. What Hegel/Nietzsche were referring to in saying that slavery is an inward condition, of which the outward form is just a reflection.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  198. @Cagey Beast

    “You will learn by the numbers! I will teach you!”

  199. @Johnny Smoggins

    You’re assuming Andrew is old enough to buy liquor.

  200. @Johann Ricke

    Yes, its that your points are absolutely irrefutable and not that you are obtuse to the point of autism and/or blathering on about irrelevant intangibles. Absolutely.

    Lmdo

  201. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I haven’t read Covington’s novels but how does propose winning over all the liberal/leftists who populate the Pacific Northwest?

  202. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Peace in Ireland became possible once the IRA dropped their demand for a united Ireland. That was the sticking point. Every attempt to negotiate peace in the 70s and 80s failed over this point.

    What changed was the demographics of Northern Ireland. Republicans were willing to stop fighting for Irish unity because they saw the prospect of voting it into existence instead.

  203. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Describing one’s opponent in a debate as “autistic” or a “sperg” is an internet culture thing meant to suggest that they are overly concerned with abstract thinking at the expense of experience with the real world, which would, it is implied, demonstrate the falsity of their ideas. For instance, libertarians are often mocked on these grounds by white nationalists. (Steve has shared a quote along the lines of “libertarianism is applied autism” that pithily sums up this line of attack.)

    Like many internet memes, it has been pushed far past the point of diminishing marginal returns due to excessive use.

  204. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Covington’s novels are amusing but sickening fantasies. They resemble entertainment like superhero comic books or animated films made for young children in that the (nominal) heroes score one dazzling success after another while the villains bumble about helplessly two steps behind them.

    There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that a substantial fraction of American citizens wish to violently secede from the US government, and would be willing to support vicious terrorist attacks against US armed forces, law enforcement, politicians, small business owners and civilians to achieve said secession. If someone was actually foolish enough to attempt to follow the instructions in Covington’s self-described “manual”, it would look much more like the 2014 Bundy ranch standoff than the Easter Rising.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  205. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Clavin wasn’t a bad guy, but he was sort of a human Wikipedia.

    If you were suggesting that I have encyclopedic knowledge of empty-hand fighting, this is true. But when I Googled Clavin, he appeared to be an overweight man wearing a postal service uniform. A comparison to him did not seem to be complimentary.

    my pride wasn’t wounded by your comment

    That was in reference to a comment in another thread, in which you initially compared me to this Clavin character.

    I take your word that I used the MMA term “mount” wrong, when I meant to say she simply got on top of the other girl.

    “Mount” has a specific meaning in Judo/Brazilian Jiujitsu/ mixed martial arts. It’s a highly dominant position: https://www.gallerr.com/bjj_fundamentals/gallery/bjj-fundamentals-how-to-control-the-mount-position

    From here, you can rain down punches, elbows, and apply chokes/joint locks. You can be on top, but not achieve this dominant position by being inside your opponent’s guard:

    https://www.grapplearts.com/a-glossary-of-guards-part-1-the-closed-guard/

    In this instance, the opponent has his legs wrapped around you and can exert a much greater ability to control your body and posture and can attack you with a variety of sweeps and submission attempts. He can also better nullify your punches.

    Your two other main points I found irrelevant (that she wasn’t a trained fighter) and wrong (that she didn’t take down the larger girl, and that the larger girl coincidentally tripped when the blonde appeared to take her down).

    My two main points were 1) she wasn’t trained in fighting and yet 2) unlike a vast majority of the untrained, she displayed very good instincts.

    As for the black girl falling, see this footage:

    At about 0:45 mark, you can see that the black girl lifts up her chin and tilts her face back in an effort to avoid the cheerleader’s punches. That’s a classic untrained fighter behavior – something of a natural instinct for most people. Unfortunately, it’s the stuff that gets people hurt (for a variety of reasons).

    Try this: stand up and lift up your chin and arch your head back and try to run backwards (as if to avoid someone’s lunging punches to your face). See what happens. You fall. And indeed, you see the black girl fall. And as she falls, she twists herself in an effort to maintain balance and lands on side then on her fours. Then she tries to get up, overcorrects backward (and the cheerleader is continuing her lunging attacks) while colliding with the cheerleader and falls backward.

    she won the fight

    She didn’t. Note that when the black girl fell, the cheerleader just jumped on top and continued to punch. Unfortunately for her, she didn’t pass to the mount, but stayed in the black girl’s half guard or guard (not intentionally on either party’s part). If you looked at the edited out videos others posted above, you see that the black girl then got up, sort of reversed the position, got on top of the cheerleader and started to rain down blows. The black girl also didn’t know what she was doing, so was in the cheerleader’s guard, so the latter was able to use her legs to up-kick, create space, and both got up, at which point the fight ended.

    apparently without seriously injuring herself or her opponent

    Very luckily, because neither knew what she was doing. Having said that, again, the cheerleader has much better fight instincts than the black girl.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  206. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Twinkie

    If you were suggesting that I have encyclopedic knowledge of empty-hand fighting, this is true. But when I Googled Clavin, he appeared to be an overweight man wearing a postal service uniform. A comparison to him did not seem to be complimentary.

    Given that I don’t know what you look like (though I think you may have mentioned once being Asian), my mention of Clavin wasn’t an allusion to your appearance. It was to your habit of “actually”-ing passing comments into discourses.

    That was in reference to a comment in another thread, in which you initially compared me to this Clavin character.

    Speaking of wounded pride, are you the commenter who took offense at my saying that Judo wasn’t an entertaining spectator sport?

    “Mount” has a specific meaning in Judo/Brazilian Jiujitsu/ mixed martial arts. It’s a highly dominant position… From here, you can rain down punches, elbows, and apply chokes/joint locks.

    Understood. IIRC, I recall watching the first ground & pound victory in one of the first UFCs.

    My two main points were 1) she wasn’t trained in fighting and yet 2) unlike a vast majority of the untrained, she displayed very good instincts.

    Agreed.

    The rest of this isn’t interesting enough for me to re-litigate. I’ll take your word for it.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @anon
  207. anon[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    I got the joke.

    I totally believe that and I want to thank you for your service to our country.

    OT: I have a friend whose “abnormalities include verbosity; abrupt transitions; literal interpretations and miscomprehension of nuance” do you think studying martial arts would help him? Like I say it’s for a friend.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  208. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Troll: Twinkie

    Isn’t calling someone a troll … gasp … ad hominem? I thought you ran towards trouble?

    • Troll: Twinkie
  209. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    It was to your habit of “actually”-ing passing comments into discourses.

    It seems to me that you wrote of something about which you knew little, were corrected (by me), and have been comparing me to some comedic trope since out of sourness.

    Speaking of wounded pride, are you the commenter who took offense at my saying that Judo wasn’t an entertaining spectator sport?

    Let’s rewind the tape: http://www.unz.com/isteve/politics-and-aerobic-vs-anaerobic-exercise/#comment-2117863

    I enjoyed studying judo when I was 10. Haven’t kept up with it in recent years, because it usually looks so sloppy and terrible. Except for the #1 there, I’m surprised some of the rest of those were Ippons.

    I was annoyed, because you trained a little Judo as a 10 year-old and then proceeded to call today’s world-class athletes at the height of their game “sloppy and terrible.” I found that comment ridiculous.

    The rest of this isn’t interesting enough for me to re-litigate. I’ll take your word for it.

    Look, if you don’t know what’s happening and don’t understand my explanations because you lack the experience/knowledge, just be a man about it and admit so. Don’t act like you are giving it to me, because you are above it all.

  210. Twinkie says:
    @anon

    do you think studying martial arts would help him? Like I say it’s for a friend.

    Yes, it will help him not be so passive-aggressive and feminine.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  211. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The deadliest enemies of such an uprising would not be the politicians and bureaucrats in DC but the rebels’ own ‘countrymen’ and neighbors.

    Covington moved from the S0uth to the Pacific Northwest to build his racial nationalist state. If anything, you’d expect people with his ideas to be moving in the opposite direction.

  212. anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    The Twinksperger doubles down on the know-it-all-ism. How manly. (sigh)

  213. anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Yes, it will help him not be so passive-aggressive and feminine.

    Projection ain’t just a river in Egypt.

  214. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Let’s rewind the tape: http://www.unz.com/isteve/politics-and-aerobic-vs-anaerobic-exercise/#comment-2117863

    Kudos Dave, you got Twink Clavin doing oppo research on you …

    Look, if you don’t know what’s happening and don’t understand my explanations because you lack the experience/knowledge, just be a man about it and admit so. Don’t act like you are giving it to me, because you are above it all.

    And giving you some sound advice, all this from a guy who “got the joke.” ;)

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Dave Pinsen
  215. @Twinkie

    Look, if you don’t know what’s happening and don’t understand my explanations because you lack the experience/knowledge, just be a man about it and admit so. Don’t act like you are giving it to me, because you are above it all.

    The self-esteem movement has really ballooned the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  216. Twinkie says:
    @anon

    Kudos Dave, you got Twink Clavin doing oppo research on you …

    It’s not “oppo research” – I remember it, because he wrote that TO ME. Gosh, you idiots are so desperate to paint me in the most negative manner possible…

  217. Twinkie says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I get the distinct impression that the knowledge I am imparting here is utterly wasted in a sea of ad hominem and snark.

  218. @Twinkie

    I get the distinct impression that the knowledge I am imparting here is utterly wasted in a sea of ad hominem and snark.

    I think some of it is sticking, although excessive self-regard of some of your interlocutors is something to behold, especially given their transparent lack of subject knowledge. Still, I’m always impressed by how many interesting perspectives I get here, although the signal-to-noise ratio isn’t always high.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  219. @Twinkie

    I get the distinct impression that the knowledge I am imparting here is utterly wasted in a sea of ad hominem and snark.

    I wouldn’t bother replying to the snark and other ad hominems beyond trying to steer it back to the subject at hand. If the ad hominems continue, this means they have nothing further to add to the discussion. I liken it to a football game where one side starts throwing water balloons at the other side. At that point, it’s no longer a football game.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  220. Corvinus says:
    @ThreeCranes

    “Most likely I didn’t get beat up because “back in the days” i.e. before the 1967 riots, blacks were decent folk. They were approachable and open. After the riots, not.”

    Actually, a great number of black people are approachable and open.

    “Since then, unencumbered by white expectations and influence, blacks have been in the process of reverting to their pre-slavery African form and in doing so, destroying every American institution in which they play a significant part.”

    No, you are hallucinating here.

    “Why do they believe that they have the right to appropriate our white/Euro civilization (and then complain when things don’t go just their way)?”

    You mean YOUR “white/Euro civilization”. Most (white) normies, aka the mushy middle, have little problems with black people.

    “What Hegel/Nietzsche were referring to in saying that slavery is an inward condition, of which the outward form is just a reflection.”

    In reality, slavery is an inhumane institution.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  221. Twinkie says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I wouldn’t bother replying to the snark and other ad hominems beyond trying to steer it back to the subject at hand.

    Excellent advice. I’ll try to keep this in mind.

    If the ad hominems continue, this means they have nothing further to add to the discussion.

    Yup. Thanks for the level-headed suggestion. I keep getting sucked into the mud. I gotta stop trying to teach pigs to sing. I often fail to realize that some people have no interest or aptitude in learning.

  222. anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    I don’t think that’s true – but regular readers just are reluctant to interact with the a-holes. You seem to have a “stalker” (in this case) that follows you but, importantly, he’s ignored by 99.99%. You’re definitely one of the better commenters on Unz. I don’t agree with everything you say but you’re input is always on point. If Unz got rid of anonymous commenting we would all be better off. I’m commenting anonymously here to avoid getting stalked myself. As for you and Dave, things weren’t perfect, but I didn’t think things got out of bounds.

    I actually used one of your self defense tips recently and it worked. I’m old and have drop foot in one leg, I’m not fast. I was accosted by a schizophrenic street person and rather than back up I stepped sideways to cut the angle. I specifically remembered that from this blog. So he threw a wild punch and I slid sideways again and then shoved him into a wall. By then some local business security people intervened. I could match him pretty well for strength but not quickness so the cutting the angle strategy worked well. I’m no hero, I know running away is your prime strategy for civilians but I’m at the stage where I really can’t run. So thanks.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  223. Twinkie says:
    @anonymous

    Thank you for the kind words, and I am very glad to hear that you were able to keep yourself safe!

  224. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @anon

    Twinkie pours words down on me and is mad I won’t tap out, despite him not having a mount and most of his words missing their mark.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  225. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Twinkie

    It seems to me that you wrote of something about which you knew little, were corrected (by me), and have been comparing me to some comedic trope since out of sourness.

    I know more than a little about this, having studied various martial arts over the years, and had no problem with you correcting me about my incorrect use of “mount”. What did annoy me a little, though not to the point of sourness, was your assumption that I didn’t realize the girl wasn’t a trained puncher. I didn’t think it necessary to point that out in my initial comment, because it was obvious, it would have been tedious to do so, and it would have detracted from my point: that the girl has potential. Women’s MMA could always use more feminine but competent fighters to maintain interest and not turn into a WNBA scenario.

    I was annoyed, because you trained a little Judo as a 10 year-old and then proceeded to call today’s world-class athletes at the height of their game “sloppy and terrible.” I found that comment ridiculous.

    I think I was 9 or 10 when I started training in Judo, but I did it for years. When I did, I recall learning that a full ippon was rarely given. I suspected there’d been a slight grade inflation in recent years, judging from the video you shared, though SteveRogers42 helpfully explained there’d been some evolution in the sport in that regard (of course, you argued with him about that, as is your wont).

    That said, I didn’t say that those judokas were “sloppy and terrible”. I said high level judo often looks sloppy and terrible. That’s an opinion of mine, which appears to be widely-shared, given how I have more than a dozen sports channels showing everything from snowboarding to soccer and don’t recall ever seeing judo on one of them outside of the Olympics. You are entitled to disagree with that opinion, and even take offense at it, if you like, but at least try to understand what I wrote, rather than getting worked up about something ridiculous that I didn’t say (that the best judokas in the world were terrible; by definition, if they’re the best, they’re not terrible).

    Look, if you don’t know what’s happening and don’t understand my explanations because you lack the experience/knowledge, just be a man about it and admit so. Don’t act like you are giving it to me, because you are above it all.

    I can disagree with some of your conclusions while understanding what you have written. This sort of condescension by you is the reason I ignored your initial reply to my comment above.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  226. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Twinkie pours words down on me and is mad I won’t tap out, despite him not having a mount and most of his words missing their mark.

    You didn’t even know what a mount was. How would you even know whether I had it on you or not?

    It’s all “unknown unknowns” for you.

  227. Twinkie says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I think I was 9 or 10 when I started training in Judo, but I did it for years.

    How many years? “Years” is rather vague. There is a big difference between 2 years and 40 years. I happened to have trained 40+ years.

    When I did, I recall learning that a full ippon was rarely given. I suspected there’d been a slight grade inflation in recent years, judging from the video you shared, though SteveRogers42 helpfully explained there’d been some evolution in the sport in that regard (of course, you argued with him about that, as is your wont).

    You might recall “SteveRogers42″ learning a thing or two from me from that conversation. He thought one of the techniques displayed was an improvised, power technique. I pointed out what it was (Yagura-Nage) and told him that it’s been around for a VERY LONG time. He was far more deferential toward my knowledge of Judo, because he could tell right away I knew my stuff. You, on the other hand…

    Let me correct you again, because you refuse to concede, out of bull-headed pride or ignorance. EVERY SINGLE IPPON you saw in that video would have been judged ippon in the 1960′s. And 1970′s. And 1980′s. And 1990′s. And now. Don’t believe me? Look up international judo footages from those eras which are readily available on YouTube. There has been no “grade inflation” (if anything, the range of techniques that are allowed has been narrowed – no more leg grabs – so in some ways, it is HARDER to get ippon today than in the past when desperation double legs/Morote-Gari were common when a player was behind in score).

    That said, I didn’t say that those judokas were “sloppy and terrible”. I said high level judo often looks sloppy and terrible. That’s an opinion of mine, which appears to be widely-shared, given how I have more than a dozen sports channels showing everything from snowboarding to soccer and don’t recall ever seeing judo on one of them outside of the Olympics.

    You said you did Judo as a junior but don’t keep up with it, because it looks sloppy and terrible now – as if you were above it. You tried to puff up, with little knowledge. Don’t try to backtrack.

    And Judo’s lack of popularity on American TV has nothing to do with how it looks on TV. It’s not practiced widely here and is a tiny niche sport (for that matter you don’t see Brazilian Jiujitsu on TV either, because – despite its importance to MMA, self-defense, and Army combatives – it too is a niche sport from the mainstream point of view). Does collegiate wrestling “look sloppy and terrible” too? Because you hardly see any of it on TV. When was the last time you saw amateur boxing on TV?

    Judo IS very popular on TV and as spectator sport in countries such as Japan, France, Russia, Germany, etc. where the number of participants is far higher. Look at the packed stadium in Paris:

    I can disagree with some of your conclusions while understanding what you have written. This sort of condescension by you is the reason I ignored your initial reply to my comment above.

    It would be helpful if you elaborated on the said disagreement instead of snarking (“Clavin”). So far you have displayed very little knowledge – neither in Judo nor any other method of unarmed combat. In other words, it’s not condescension – I just know more and have much greater experience in the subject than you do. Not all opinions are equally valid, especially when there is such a large disparity in expertise.

  228. @Corvinus

    Corvinus says: “Actually, a great number of black people are approachable and open.”

    Hah! And a great number are savage murderers, like these brothers of yours……

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6170471/Three-teens-arrested-shooting-dead-wedding-guest.html”

    What you can’t answer–in your consistently non-sequitur way–is why any white should hang around black people long enough to determine whether they are “approachable and open” or murderous thugs. What’s in it for us?

    No, the risk outweighs the benefits. Better to avoid all blacks than take the chance that the one who crosses your path may be a decent human being. From the white point of view, blacks bring nothing to the table.

    Christian theologians such as Augustine and Aquinas understood that what makes humans distinctly human was their capacity for Reason. The modern Christian and his liberal counterpart have lost sight of this deep understanding. For them it’s empathetic emotions that are uniquely human. But this is false. All mammals experience emotions. As work by Frans De Waal has shown at the Yerkes laboratory even chimpanzees feel cheated when deprived of equal treats for like behavior. But only humans can reason symbolically–our most Godlike trait. So Reason, not empathy, is what is most uniquely human about us.

    Now, bearing in mind that intelligence is my most God-like attribute, tell me why I, an intelligent white person, should cross breed with a lower-order primate such as the American Negro and risk having offspring who are mentally retarded?

  229. Corvinus says:

    “What you can’t answer–in your consistently non-sequitur way–is why any white should hang around black people long enough to determine whether they are “approachable and open” or murderous thugs. What’s in it for us?”

    Of course there is a response here, one that you simply refuse to acknowledge. In any interaction, a person is able to determine whether or not someone they meet is worthwhile to establish a friendship. So, for YOU, it’s not worth it to get to know deeply a black person. But for other white people, they make those decisions all of the time.

    “No, the risk outweighs the benefits. Better to avoid all blacks than take the chance that the one who crosses your path may be a decent human being.”

    That would be Fake News on your part.

    “From the white point of view, blacks bring nothing to the table.”

    You mean from YOUR perspective.

    “Christian theologians such as Augustine and Aquinas understood that what makes humans distinctly human was their capacity for Reason. The modern Christian and his liberal counterpart have lost sight of this deep understanding…So Reason, not empathy, is what is most uniquely human about us.”

    Actually, the “modern Christian” is perpetuating what those two titans promoted. Reason and empathy go hand in hand. St. Augustine said, “What does love look like? It has the hand to help others, it has the feet to hasten the poor and needy. It has the ears to hear the sighs and sorrows of men. That is what love looks like.” Clearly, you have lost your way.

    “Now, bearing in mind that intelligence is my most God-like attribute, tell me why I, an intelligent white person, should cross breed with a lower-order primate such as the American Negro and risk having offspring who are mentally retarded?”

    We don’t have “God-like attributes”, we have human characteristics and traits. And as far as your intelligence is concerned, I would say you are not that bright. Black people are not “lower order primates”, they are human beings. They are like you and me. Why do you have such hate in your heart?

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