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As we’ve seen from recent murder statistics, BLM activism closely correlates with subsequent increases in the number of homicides.

Never mind the dead bodies, however, because the Southern Poverty Law Center is here to define from first principles how BLM can’t be a hate group despite all the murders that happen in its wake:

Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group

Richard Cohen
President
July 19, 2016

Each year, the Southern Poverty Law Center, of which I am the president, compiles and publishes a census of domestic hate groups.

Our list, which is cited extensively by journalists, academics and government officials alike, provides an important barometer—not the only one, of course—to help us understand the state of hate and extremism in America.

In recent weeks, we’ve received a number of requests to name Black Lives Matter a hate group, particularly in the wake of the murders of eight police officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge. Numerous conservative commentators have joined the chorus. There is even a Change.org petition calling for the hate group label.

In our view, these critics fundamentally misunderstand the nature of hate groups and the BLM movement.

Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity. Federal law takes a similar approach. …

Many of its harshest critics claim that Black Lives Matter’s very name is anti-white, hence the oft-repeated rejoinder “all lives matter.” This notion misses the point entirely. Black lives matter because they have been marginalized throughout our country’s history and because white lives have always mattered more in our society. As BLM puts it, the movement stands for “the simple proposition that ‘black lives also matter.’”

The backlash to BLM, in some ways, reflects a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world. We consistently see this phenomenon in surveys showing that large numbers of white people believe racial discrimination against them is as pervasive, or more so, than it is against African Americans.

Black Lives Matter is not a hate group. But the perception that it is racist illustrates the problem. …

If you weren’t so hateful hate-filled, why would BLM hate you so much?

 
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  1. Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.

    So race is immutable to the SPLC? I thought it was just a social construct?

    It’s a good thing BLM isn’t vilifying whites or anything.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Race is a social construct, a hangup, for us awful and racist Whites.

    For SPLC and #BLM and the Democrats and all their sycophants, race is a deadly serious business to be used for destruction and political advantage. And business is GOOD.
  2. Okaaaaay… As long as you don’t hate people for “immutable characteristics”, it is open season. Got it.

    Also this: …a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.

    He just can’t help but do a victory dance and rub it in: “Suck it, YT, just suck it! You are going down, and I’ll be there to keep stomping on you.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    SPLC is so obviously another bigotted anti-white tribal outfit masquerading as civil rights group. Europeans are going through the same humiliation, whites in africa have already been defeated.
    , @Clyde

    Also this: …a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.
     
    Winners in globalization? Third worlders if they can somehow find a way to enter (slavery included) and live in a civilized nation created by Europeans.
  3. So finally the SPLC decided which way they would go on whether BLM was a hate group?

    I’m so glad. The suspense was killing me.

    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    So, all charges have been dropped, kind of like...
    , @boogerbently
    SPLC is a hate group.
    Hate whitey.
  4. @candid_observer
    So finally the SPLC decided which way they would go on whether BLM was a hate group?

    I'm so glad. The suspense was killing me.

    So, all charges have been dropped, kind of like…

  5. I think the pushback is intensifying — i.e. BLM propaganda & public image consciousness — because there is a natural limit to Professional Black Guy shakedown-artisty, once other blacks start to sense that whatever theme it is this year that led to the pan-media jag of stoking the feels has begun to turn a bit counter-productive. You hear it in the recent commentary by Michael Jordan and Richard Sherman. Enthusiasm for BLM-brand self-assertion and self-publicity is on the wane; meanwhile whiteliberal Civil Rights Geeks are left holding the bag.

  6. Interesting. By this standard, any group should be able to avoid the hate group label so long as their mission statement has the right verbiage. Don’t worry about what the members say or do, right?

    I find it hard to believe the SPLC would play favorites here. They’re trying to stop hate, and nothing is more important.

  7. Of course this is great news for Steve as an SPLC certified hater. Looks like the SPLC is intent on marginalizing itself

  8. But the perception that [BLM] is racist illustrates the problem.

    You hate me. You have a problem. I hate you. You have a problem.

  9. People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    • Replies: @whorefinder

    People of Color will soon be a minority.
     
    lmao. How does it feel to completely screw up your own trolling, Tiny Duck?

    But it's nice to see one of the SPLC's interns likes to get drunk and tries to attack on people who deal in annoying hate facts. And to watch the intern fail at it. Gives us all a good chuckle at his expense.

    , @biz

    People of Color will soon be a minority.
     
    This is technically true. POC are a minority now, and will be one second from now as well.
    , @Richard STeele
    Come on, Tiny Duck, you're a better troll than this.
    , @Olorin
    Even the East German judge gave this one a 1.0.

    Gotta work on that dismount, kiddo.

    , @Unladen Swallow
    Try proofreading your siily posts you moronic troll.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Tiny Duck has had the "minority=good; majority=bad" doctrine drilled into his tiny head so long, he probably won't make it over the conversion.
  10. Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.

    Wait a minute, what about sex? I thought the latest fatwa is that sex is no longer immutable characteristic but can be changed at a drop of a hat. Does it mean that the PUA are no longer a hate group? I am confused.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Who? whom?, comrade. Who? whom?
  11. Has SPicLiC classified the Trump campaign as a hate group yet?
    He oughta pull a Nixon on them if he gets elected. IRS audit their hedge fund/endowment. Use the Justice Dept, EEOC… heck put together a team of plumbers to do a “Brookings.”

  12. Hate is opposition to the agenda of the SPLC. If you don’t agree that’s because your part of the problem.

  13. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    People of Color will soon be a minority.

    lmao. How does it feel to completely screw up your own trolling, Tiny Duck?

    But it’s nice to see one of the SPLC’s interns likes to get drunk and tries to attack on people who deal in annoying hate facts. And to watch the intern fail at it. Gives us all a good chuckle at his expense.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    > Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    This is the best of times for Mr. Duck -- there are dozens of websites that cater to his apparent fetish.

    Figuring out the policies that would lead to a more decent society: quite a different topic.
  14. @inertial
    Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.

    Wait a minute, what about sex? I thought the latest fatwa is that sex is no longer immutable characteristic but can be changed at a drop of a hat. Does it mean that the PUA are no longer a hate group? I am confused.

    Who? whom?, comrade. Who? whom?

  15. Richard Cohen:

    The backlash to BLM, in some ways, reflects a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.

    Change just happens. It’s not like it’s being “nudged” along by certain people…

    In Boston, the continuing saga of the Rootless, the Cosmopolitan, and the Eternally Insistent…

    Gruber, 35, works as a financial administrator at a university. He grew up in New York but married a West Roxbury native. They have two kids, and have a place five doors down from the house where his wife grew up and her parents still live. He likes the neighborhood’s small-town feel, too. Still, he says, “what I’m trying to make people understand is that the change is coming either way.”

    Many of the YIMBYs whom I’ve met have one thing in common: They came to their communities by choice rather than by birth. Kanson-Benanav, for instance, is from Minnesota. Gruber’s not-from-here accent is still strong enough that he says “yada yada yada” in non-“Seinfeld” contexts. That’s a positive. While lifelong residents have wisdom to impart, so do newer arrivals who see a place only as it is now, not through the lens of what it used to be.

    The following doesn’t sound at all like a rapist:

    Let’s give Gruber the last word: “Change is going to happen one of two ways,” he says.

    “It can happen to you, or it can happen with you.”

    At recent town meetings I’ve been to, residential-zoning articles have been on the warrant. There is always someone who speaks approvingly of “changing demographics” and advocates relaxed zoning, stated with an implied threat: “Change is inevitable, whether you like it or not.” The speaker is invariably from a certain Tribe. It’s almost like there’s a script being passed around…

    Jon Stewart recently declared:

    This country isn’t yours! You don’t own it! It never was! There is no real America!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    How dare you notice patterns? What are you, Hitler?
    , @Simon in London
    Jon Stewart is like the bully who stole the America ball and won't give it back.
    , @Brutusale
    The entire article boils down to a (((guy))) saying he wants to 'eff up Boston's whitest neighborhood. Because he can't afford his own's ethnic enclaves of Brookline and Newton.
  16. “WHAT DO WE WANT?”

    DEAD COPS!

    “WHEN DO WE WANT ‘EM?”

    NOW!

    Nope. No hate there, Mr. Cohen. Your eagle-eyed SPLC outfit really did your Scout’s Honor homework to nail that tough one.

    • Replies: @avraham
    Right about that. It was a group that was made to be anti police right from the beginning.
  17. The SPLC is the most successful fund raiser on the left for a reason. They sell a very consistent product. People who give them money know that they product the are buying is always anti-white, anti-conservative, anti-native, and anti-male. They are not duping anyone. Not labeling BLM has more to do with fundraising and less to do with hate. After all, their credibility was a stake, but not the credibility you were thinking of.

    • Replies: @Former darfur
    The $PLC is the mist successful hate group in America by a wide margin. It pulls in an enormous amount of money in from self-hating liberal whites and Jewish supremacists.

    It would be interesting to know what survival/escape preparations Morris, Heidi and Mark have made for the possibility that the racist fascist hating hateful haters might, you know, actually take over. If that were to happen, one would think those hateful hating haters would hate them even more and if they got hold of them it would be very, very bad for them (one thinks of shechita, and of Edward II and that nasty bit about the hot iron, but the hateful hating haters would probably have far worse in store) , so if the threat were credible one could only assume that they would have spent a lot of money on survival and escape preparations.
  18. Actually this is not surprising. I recall hearing an $PLC operative once saying that they tracked ‘right-wing’ hate groups. So if this is their mission it would make sense that they would ignore left-wing hate groups.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    They once said Louis Farrakhan was right-wing, as in a part of the Tea Party.
    , @bomag
    I clicked on the Hatewatch heading on the SPLC's website, and the mission statement was, "...monitors and exposes the activities of the American radical right."
  19. Anyone who thinks of the $PLC as anything other than a giant scam, along the lines of say the Westboro Baptist people (aka the “God Hates Fags” idiots who disrupt veterans funerals) is naive. *MAYBE* they were not scam artists back in the very early days of the 1960s. But they quickly realized they could make lucrative bucks by playing on naive and stupid Boomers and their parents guilt and dislike to hatred of lower class Whites. By raising lots and lots of money.

    Morris Dees massive modern art collection did not pay for itself. People have to give money.

    Any accurate rendering of hate groups would put BLM, Al Sharpton, the Nation of Islam, Muslim groups in general, CAIR in particular, as THE biggest and most dangerous hate groups. A bunch of internet trolls on MPC do not a hate group make. What makes a hate group is when your members shoot up a gay bar, or a San Bernadino County Government office Christmas Party, or commit racially motivated murders of cops in Dallas, and Baton Rouge, and Minneapolis, and racially motivated murders of random Whites in Tennessee.

    But that doesn’t matter because the $PLC is all about direct mail campaigns to get gullible boomers to give money to stop David Duke from being President or something. Hint its not 1955 any more. It’s the $Current_Year!

    Now of course the more the clueless $PLC asserts that Blacks have special privileges to be racist and Whites have to grovel and bow, the more its resented. More rational and thoughtful Black figures have sensed this, and realized that at 13% of the population, and resented, the maximum gains have been taken and playing at the table any more just incurs losses. No surprise that say, Michael Jordan has something to lose — his money, his endorsements, his property. Its not like he can go play basketball and get it back the way he could at 25.

    Almost no White man would support Civil Rights — he won’t ever have any, and its just another privilege for non Whites to berate him and make him bow and scrape. EVEN or especially Scott Adams has noted the “Diversity Ceiling” where talented White males are kept out of any promotion and must look upon incompetents with the correct gender or race being promoted ahead of them.

    For now, the female-led media and government have White males in appeasement/placating mode, but that won’t last forever, particularly as it is unavoidable to notice that swaggering dominance carries the day with them, so to speak.

    As for manpower advantage, well Darius sure had it over Alexander. How did that work out again?

    The most likely outcome in a globalized world where nations don’t exist is lots and lots of internal borders. Mark Zuckerberg no doubt thinks he’s clever with his massive walls, but any knowledgeable old time aristocrat would have been appalled — the best walls were social acceptance and stability through patronage and lower class advancement. How did the Roman Villa walls work out when the Franks and Huns and Visigoths came through again?

    And the internal walls will be: Whites will fairly rapidly tune out non-White infotainment/sports. You already see it with NASCAR, Golf, various Olympic events like Diving, Swimming, etc. being as White as a Bernie Fest in Vermont. The NFL and NBA ought to be frightened out of their minds by stuff like the $PLC — its the equivalent of feminists giving boys not buying Ghostbuster toys and men not seeing the movie a good big feminist harangue. It makes feminists feel better but cements boys and men resolve to never go near the fat lesbian Ghostbuster movie.

  20. Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.

    Think for a moment what that statement really implies.

    If BLM, or some adjunct thereof, decides that it is going to expressly target white police officers for violence, then, by the SPLC definition, they are nonetheless not hate groups.

    This is the sort of moral rot that SPLC represents. Dead bodies mean nothing to them, unless they were killed over their race and nothing else.

    How can anybody admire amoral ideological fanatics like this? People give money to such an organization?

    Their supporters are as corrupt as the SPLC.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The SPLC is a leftist group, effectively the equivalent of the imprimatur for Cultural Marxism.

    As an agent of CultMarx, their goal is a world where white conservative/Christian males (WCMs) are permanently driven from power in the polis that they built. Drive us out, and Trotsky's permanent revolution will follow.
  21. (((SPLC))). Just for the record.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    And for those of you playing home version of "Coincidence Detector", (((Richard Cohen)))
    , @Brutusale
    'Cause it's SO hard to find a non-Jew to take charge...in Montgomery, Alabama!
  22. @candid_observer

    Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.
     
    Think for a moment what that statement really implies.

    If BLM, or some adjunct thereof, decides that it is going to expressly target white police officers for violence, then, by the SPLC definition, they are nonetheless not hate groups.

    This is the sort of moral rot that SPLC represents. Dead bodies mean nothing to them, unless they were killed over their race and nothing else.

    How can anybody admire amoral ideological fanatics like this? People give money to such an organization?

    Their supporters are as corrupt as the SPLC.

    The SPLC is a leftist group, effectively the equivalent of the imprimatur for Cultural Marxism.

    As an agent of CultMarx, their goal is a world where white conservative/Christian males (WCMs) are permanently driven from power in the polis that they built. Drive us out, and Trotsky’s permanent revolution will follow.

  23. @iSteveFan
    Actually this is not surprising. I recall hearing an $PLC operative once saying that they tracked 'right-wing' hate groups. So if this is their mission it would make sense that they would ignore left-wing hate groups.

    They once said Louis Farrakhan was right-wing, as in a part of the Tea Party.

  24. We consistently see this phenomenon in surveys showing that large numbers of white people believe racial discrimination against them is as pervasive, or more so, than it is against African Americans.

    Where would they get that idea? I mean besides the pervasive publicly acknowledged programs that legally discriminate against whites (and asians) in employment and education in both public and private institutions.

  25. • Replies: @Anon
    14 whites on the staff plus 3 token blacks. I'm impressed. You'd think they'd be more black by now, but no.
  26. @Prof. Woland
    The SPLC is the most successful fund raiser on the left for a reason. They sell a very consistent product. People who give them money know that they product the are buying is always anti-white, anti-conservative, anti-native, and anti-male. They are not duping anyone. Not labeling BLM has more to do with fundraising and less to do with hate. After all, their credibility was a stake, but not the credibility you were thinking of.

    The $PLC is the mist successful hate group in America by a wide margin. It pulls in an enormous amount of money in from self-hating liberal whites and Jewish supremacists.

    It would be interesting to know what survival/escape preparations Morris, Heidi and Mark have made for the possibility that the racist fascist hating hateful haters might, you know, actually take over. If that were to happen, one would think those hateful hating haters would hate them even more and if they got hold of them it would be very, very bad for them (one thinks of shechita, and of Edward II and that nasty bit about the hot iron, but the hateful hating haters would probably have far worse in store) , so if the threat were credible one could only assume that they would have spent a lot of money on survival and escape preparations.

  27. It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group. That they include the JDL & Nation of Islam in their list of hate groups just for cover, so it’s not quite so obvious (and those entries have a ‘more in sorrow than in anger’ feel about them). This article makes it clear exactly who the target of their hate is.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    exactly. SPLC is a bigotted anti-white tribal oufit
    , @Clyde

    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group.
     
    They are a money machine via the lawsuits they gin up. They do better as the US judiciary gets more liberal Obama judges appointed. State level too as graduating lawyers are more liberal-left every year.
  28. The irony is BLM, Obama, and his shitty crew just makes life more difficult for the significant number of black folks who are intelligent, self-possessed, and successful contributors and strivers. Imagine this guy turning on his tv and seeing that DNC shitshow. Your heart has to go out to the guy:

    • Agree: eah
    • Replies: @RonaldB
    The guy being interviewed had intelligence and empathy.

    I don't know if it was a French reporter or journalist who was interviewing him, or if she was just a tourist with a movie camera. But, in any case, she obviously didn't have a clue to her own country, let alone the US. It's a shame that someone would travel across the ocean, and not take the trouble to learn something about the country you're visiting.
  29. @Flinders Petrie

    Generally speaking, hate groups are, by our definition, those that vilify entire groups of people based on immutable characteristics such as race or ethnicity.
     
    So race is immutable to the SPLC? I thought it was just a social construct?

    It's a good thing BLM isn't vilifying whites or anything.

    Race is a social construct, a hangup, for us awful and racist Whites.

    For SPLC and #BLM and the Democrats and all their sycophants, race is a deadly serious business to be used for destruction and political advantage. And business is GOOD.

  30. anon • Disclaimer says:

    As I explained to William Saletan, transgenderism pulls the rug from under the ‘immutability’ argument. It’s really very simple:

    1. Bruce Jenner was a man who was attracted to women.
    2. Bruce Jenner became a woman who is attracted to other women.
    3. Hence, her sexuality changed from heterosexual to homosexual, and therefore sexuality is not immutable.
    4. Therefore, it is ok to discriminate on the basis of sexuality.

    • Replies: @guest
    I think the argument with weirdos like Bruce is that they were really the other sex all along. Not biologically, but spiritually, or something.
  31. @bomag
    Okaaaaay... As long as you don't hate people for "immutable characteristics", it is open season. Got it.

    Also this: ...a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.

    He just can't help but do a victory dance and rub it in: "Suck it, YT, just suck it! You are going down, and I'll be there to keep stomping on you."

    SPLC is so obviously another bigotted anti-white tribal outfit masquerading as civil rights group. Europeans are going through the same humiliation, whites in africa have already been defeated.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Everyone over the world desires the golden eggs produced by people whose ancestors spent the last thousand years in Northern Europe.

    Not ONE of those other groups can PRODUCE the golden eggs (or else they'd not be emigrating, now, would they?)

    Yet the clowns of SPLC, BLM, etc., etc. constantly issue one insult and demand after another.

    Kick them all out. American people need these assholes like dogs need fleas.
  32. @bomag
    Okaaaaay... As long as you don't hate people for "immutable characteristics", it is open season. Got it.

    Also this: ...a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.

    He just can't help but do a victory dance and rub it in: "Suck it, YT, just suck it! You are going down, and I'll be there to keep stomping on you."

    Also this: …a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.

    Winners in globalization? Third worlders if they can somehow find a way to enter (slavery included) and live in a civilized nation created by Europeans.

  33. There is even a Change.org petition calling for the hate group label.

    I swear I read that last word as ‘libel’.

  34. @Simon in London
    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group. That they include the JDL & Nation of Islam in their list of hate groups just for cover, so it's not quite so obvious (and those entries have a 'more in sorrow than in anger' feel about them). This article makes it clear exactly who the target of their hate is.

    exactly. SPLC is a bigotted anti-white tribal oufit

  35. @Simon in London
    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group. That they include the JDL & Nation of Islam in their list of hate groups just for cover, so it's not quite so obvious (and those entries have a 'more in sorrow than in anger' feel about them). This article makes it clear exactly who the target of their hate is.

    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group.

    They are a money machine via the lawsuits they gin up. They do better as the US judiciary gets more liberal Obama judges appointed. State level too as graduating lawyers are more liberal-left every year.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
    They're a money machine that relies on promulgating Hate (& Fear, its close cousin) to succeed. I don't see a contradiction. Morris Dees might have founded the SPLC primarily for Money, but Heidi Beirich is motivated primarily by Hate. Hate + Greed together make for a powerful motivator - "Kill Them, Take their Stuff - and Feel Good doing it".
    , @Bill P
    They are a direct mail scam outfit. Overwhelmingly, their profits come from donations from older blacks and Jews they terrorize with tales of nazis and KKK on the loose. Yes, there is media collusion, but they aren't as politically powerful as they pretend to be.
  36. That passage boggles the mind, although it doesn’t come as a surprise given the source. Although I was in dozens and dozens of fights with mexican americans growing up, that was the way things were at the time, and I had buddies of that stripe (and still do).

    The thing is, my folks never suffered the same kind of indignities foisted upon them by the other racial group to the north of us.

    I’ll do an extended thought on this, but, damn, vodka is good.

  37. As BLM puts it, the movement stands for “the simple proposition that ‘black lives also matter.’”

    So why isn’t it BLMA?

    • Replies: @YT Wurlitzer
    No, it would be BLAM.
  38. “Richard Cohen”: is he a Person of Hue? It seems unlikely.

  39. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Richard Cohen:

    The backlash to BLM, in some ways, reflects a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.
     
    Change just happens. It’s not like it’s being “nudged” along by certain people…

    In Boston, the continuing saga of the Rootless, the Cosmopolitan, and the Eternally Insistent…

    Gruber, 35, works as a financial administrator at a university. He grew up in New York but married a West Roxbury native. They have two kids, and have a place five doors down from the house where his wife grew up and her parents still live. He likes the neighborhood’s small-town feel, too. Still, he says, “what I’m trying to make people understand is that the change is coming either way.”

    Many of the YIMBYs whom I’ve met have one thing in common: They came to their communities by choice rather than by birth. Kanson-Benanav, for instance, is from Minnesota. Gruber’s not-from-here accent is still strong enough that he says “yada yada yada” in non-“Seinfeld” contexts. That’s a positive. While lifelong residents have wisdom to impart, so do newer arrivals who see a place only as it is now, not through the lens of what it used to be.
     
    The following doesn’t sound at all like a rapist:

    Let’s give Gruber the last word: “Change is going to happen one of two ways,” he says.

    “It can happen to you, or it can happen with you.”
     
    At recent town meetings I’ve been to, residential-zoning articles have been on the warrant. There is always someone who speaks approvingly of “changing demographics” and advocates relaxed zoning, stated with an implied threat: “Change is inevitable, whether you like it or not.” The speaker is invariably from a certain Tribe. It’s almost like there’s a script being passed around…

    Jon Stewart recently declared:

    This country isn’t yours! You don’t own it! It never was! There is no real America!
     

    How dare you notice patterns? What are you, Hitler?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    How dare you notice patterns? What are you, Hitler?
     
    I know, right? Sometimes I wonder if bothering to make such observations is gauche and uncouth (you shoulda read my first draft!) but then I remember that shit is happening, people are making it happen, and they are telling us about it.
  40. @Clyde

    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group.
     
    They are a money machine via the lawsuits they gin up. They do better as the US judiciary gets more liberal Obama judges appointed. State level too as graduating lawyers are more liberal-left every year.

    They’re a money machine that relies on promulgating Hate (& Fear, its close cousin) to succeed. I don’t see a contradiction. Morris Dees might have founded the SPLC primarily for Money, but Heidi Beirich is motivated primarily by Hate. Hate + Greed together make for a powerful motivator – “Kill Them, Take their Stuff – and Feel Good doing it”.

  41. More (((Miller)))s less (((Cohen)))s.

    Now for some more triggering. Oh the humanity!

  42. @Auntie Analogue
    "WHAT DO WE WANT?"

    "DEAD COPS!"

    "WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM?"

    "NOW!"

    Nope. No hate there, Mr. Cohen. Your eagle-eyed SPLC outfit really did your Scout's Honor homework to nail that tough one.

    Right about that. It was a group that was made to be anti police right from the beginning.

  43. the oft-repeated rejoinder “all lives matter.” …notion misses the point entirely. Black lives matter because they have been marginalized throughout our country’s history and because white lives have always mattered more in our society.
    *As BLM puts it, the movement stands for “the simple proposition that ‘black lives also matter.’”*

    So how exactly does “all lives matter” miss the point if BLM really means “black lives also matter” ? The semantic change(all to black) shifts the focus, but the rejoinder seems to acknowledge the point. SLPC seems to have provided cover for the rejoinder ‘Of course “black lives also matter”, “all lives matter”. ‘

    • Replies: @Jack D
    This reminds me of Michelle Obama's "the White House was built by slaves". Not that it was built IN PART by slaves, which would have been true, but that it was "built by slaves". You also see claims that America is rich as the result of slave labor, etc.

    This is because black people see everything in black terms (because it literally PAYS to do so). Blackety black black - Genius T. Coates makes a good living off of this.
  44. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Richard Cohen:

    The backlash to BLM, in some ways, reflects a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.
     
    Change just happens. It’s not like it’s being “nudged” along by certain people…

    In Boston, the continuing saga of the Rootless, the Cosmopolitan, and the Eternally Insistent…

    Gruber, 35, works as a financial administrator at a university. He grew up in New York but married a West Roxbury native. They have two kids, and have a place five doors down from the house where his wife grew up and her parents still live. He likes the neighborhood’s small-town feel, too. Still, he says, “what I’m trying to make people understand is that the change is coming either way.”

    Many of the YIMBYs whom I’ve met have one thing in common: They came to their communities by choice rather than by birth. Kanson-Benanav, for instance, is from Minnesota. Gruber’s not-from-here accent is still strong enough that he says “yada yada yada” in non-“Seinfeld” contexts. That’s a positive. While lifelong residents have wisdom to impart, so do newer arrivals who see a place only as it is now, not through the lens of what it used to be.
     
    The following doesn’t sound at all like a rapist:

    Let’s give Gruber the last word: “Change is going to happen one of two ways,” he says.

    “It can happen to you, or it can happen with you.”
     
    At recent town meetings I’ve been to, residential-zoning articles have been on the warrant. There is always someone who speaks approvingly of “changing demographics” and advocates relaxed zoning, stated with an implied threat: “Change is inevitable, whether you like it or not.” The speaker is invariably from a certain Tribe. It’s almost like there’s a script being passed around…

    Jon Stewart recently declared:

    This country isn’t yours! You don’t own it! It never was! There is no real America!
     

    Jon Stewart is like the bully who stole the America ball and won’t give it back.

  45. @whorefinder

    People of Color will soon be a minority.
     
    lmao. How does it feel to completely screw up your own trolling, Tiny Duck?

    But it's nice to see one of the SPLC's interns likes to get drunk and tries to attack on people who deal in annoying hate facts. And to watch the intern fail at it. Gives us all a good chuckle at his expense.

    > Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    This is the best of times for Mr. Duck — there are dozens of websites that cater to his apparent fetish.

    Figuring out the policies that would lead to a more decent society: quite a different topic.

  46. @iSteveFan
    Actually this is not surprising. I recall hearing an $PLC operative once saying that they tracked 'right-wing' hate groups. So if this is their mission it would make sense that they would ignore left-wing hate groups.

    I clicked on the Hatewatch heading on the SPLC’s website, and the mission statement was, “…monitors and exposes the activities of the American radical right.”

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    There you go. I guess my recollection was correct. I wonder then why the $PLC tried to wiggle out of the BLM question instead of just stating that they are not right-wingers.
  47. @anon
    As I explained to William Saletan, transgenderism pulls the rug from under the 'immutability' argument. It's really very simple:

    1. Bruce Jenner was a man who was attracted to women.
    2. Bruce Jenner became a woman who is attracted to other women.
    3. Hence, her sexuality changed from heterosexual to homosexual, and therefore sexuality is not immutable.
    4. Therefore, it is ok to discriminate on the basis of sexuality.

    I think the argument with weirdos like Bruce is that they were really the other sex all along. Not biologically, but spiritually, or something.

    • Replies: @Formerly CARealist
    So Bruce Jenner was a homosexual before he got her sex change? Apparently he was a homosexual who acted heterosexual and then became actually homosexual. I wish he hadn't given that interview where he said he wasn't homosexual because he'd never been with another man. I got really confused since he was really a she and she thought sleeping with a man would've been a homosexual act when really it would have been heterosexual for her.

    But now she's just an ugly lesbian after all. What a shame.
  48. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    People of Color will soon be a minority.

    This is technically true. POC are a minority now, and will be one second from now as well.

  49. White leftist types such as the SPLC are disingenuous hypocrites.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "White leftist types such as the SPLC are disingenuous hypocrites."

    I misread "disingenuous" as "dangerous".

    I think we're both right.
  50. In 2010, the SPLC (which incidentally also runs a website called tolerance.org) included the Family Research Council as a Hate Group. FRC is a Christian Group that, needless to say, is not an advocate of homosexuality. I guess it’s kind of a religious thing. The FRC never been accused of harming anyone physically; indeed, it has never even been charged with a crime of any sort. It’s been a victim of crime, though: A security guard at FRC was shot and killed by a left wing extremist because the extremist didn’t like the FRC’s views on LGBTQIA. [After getting arrested, the shooter was interviewed by the FBI, and was asked how he chose his target. His response: “The Southern Poverty Law, lists…uh…anti-gay groups. I found them online”] Nonetheless, the Southern Poverty Law Center lists the Family Research Center as a Hate Group.

    In 2014 the SPLC added Ben Carson (?!) to its extremist watch list citing his association with groups it considers extreme, and his alleged “linking of gays with pedophiles”. [He was removed from the list a year later after “further research” into the matter.]

    PS–This article on SPLC is great. https://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/tag/richard-cohen/
    $400,000 a year to be the figurehead of this nonprofit organization?

    • Replies: @BB753
    An organization such as the SPLC that puts targets on people would've been closed down years ago in a sane society.
  51. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    Come on, Tiny Duck, you’re a better troll than this.

  52. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    (((SPLC))). Just for the record.

    And for those of you playing home version of “Coincidence Detector”, (((Richard Cohen)))

  53. @eah

    14 whites on the staff plus 3 token blacks. I’m impressed. You’d think they’d be more black by now, but no.

  54. Hate groups are simply groups that Jewish organizations hate.

  55. Wer a Hassgruppe is, bestimm i .

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  56. @yowza
    The irony is BLM, Obama, and his shitty crew just makes life more difficult for the significant number of black folks who are intelligent, self-possessed, and successful contributors and strivers. Imagine this guy turning on his tv and seeing that DNC shitshow. Your heart has to go out to the guy:

    https://youtu.be/9Jz1Pn71kFs

    The guy being interviewed had intelligence and empathy.

    I don’t know if it was a French reporter or journalist who was interviewing him, or if she was just a tourist with a movie camera. But, in any case, she obviously didn’t have a clue to her own country, let alone the US. It’s a shame that someone would travel across the ocean, and not take the trouble to learn something about the country you’re visiting.

  57. “As we’ve seen from recent murder statistics, BLM activism closely correlates with subsequent increases in the number of homicides.”

    The subsequent increase in recent homicides is the culmination of factors within the past decade–1) black and white officer misconduct, i.e. blacks being injured or killed when in custody; 2) continued poverty and crime in the black community; and, of course, 3) the Coalition of the Right and the Coalition of the Left playing “pin the blame on the other side”.

    Of course it’s much easier for rogue blacks to justify shooting cops in light of the incidents highlighted by the media, and it’s much easier for pundits to link the current violence to protest groups. After all, that is EXACTLY what the British government did when the colonists legitimately exercised their liberty to protest, with violent reprisals by BOTH sides.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Jack
    The explanation for why nearly all these young black males are getting injured or killed by police more at rates higher than whites that relies on facts and doesn't invoke Occam's butterknife, is
    1. Young black males commit crime at far higher rates than whites, especially the more serious crimes like armed robbery, murder, etc. which are more likely to get you shot by police.
    2. Young black men are more likely to respond aggressively, particularly with violence, against police when confronted.

    You can invoke all these other explanations about poverty, Left vs Right, alignment of Neptune and Alpha Centauri, etc., but really it boils down to those two points.

    BLM gets it 180 degrees off. The perp who gets hurt or killed committing a crime is the only person who isn't a victim. They made their choice and got the consequences. The teen girl who gets raped, the 85 yr old man who is beaten to death for his wallet, the police officer who is attacked and responds with force to subdue the perp, who then goes on to have his life ruined by the MSM, BLM, etc- these are the victims.
  58. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Richard Cohen:

    The backlash to BLM, in some ways, reflects a broad sense of unease among white people who worry about the cultural changes in the country and feel they are falling behind in a country that is rapidly growing more diverse in a globalizing world.
     
    Change just happens. It’s not like it’s being “nudged” along by certain people…

    In Boston, the continuing saga of the Rootless, the Cosmopolitan, and the Eternally Insistent…

    Gruber, 35, works as a financial administrator at a university. He grew up in New York but married a West Roxbury native. They have two kids, and have a place five doors down from the house where his wife grew up and her parents still live. He likes the neighborhood’s small-town feel, too. Still, he says, “what I’m trying to make people understand is that the change is coming either way.”

    Many of the YIMBYs whom I’ve met have one thing in common: They came to their communities by choice rather than by birth. Kanson-Benanav, for instance, is from Minnesota. Gruber’s not-from-here accent is still strong enough that he says “yada yada yada” in non-“Seinfeld” contexts. That’s a positive. While lifelong residents have wisdom to impart, so do newer arrivals who see a place only as it is now, not through the lens of what it used to be.
     
    The following doesn’t sound at all like a rapist:

    Let’s give Gruber the last word: “Change is going to happen one of two ways,” he says.

    “It can happen to you, or it can happen with you.”
     
    At recent town meetings I’ve been to, residential-zoning articles have been on the warrant. There is always someone who speaks approvingly of “changing demographics” and advocates relaxed zoning, stated with an implied threat: “Change is inevitable, whether you like it or not.” The speaker is invariably from a certain Tribe. It’s almost like there’s a script being passed around…

    Jon Stewart recently declared:

    This country isn’t yours! You don’t own it! It never was! There is no real America!
     

    The entire article boils down to a (((guy))) saying he wants to ‘eff up Boston’s whitest neighborhood. Because he can’t afford his own’s ethnic enclaves of Brookline and Newton.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The entire article boils down to a (((guy))) saying he wants to ‘eff up Boston’s whitest neighborhood. Because he can’t afford his own’s ethnic enclaves of Brookline and Newton
     
    Boston's whitest neighborhoods were effed up 150 years ago. So much so, that fifty years later even the police went out on strike.
  59. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    (((SPLC))). Just for the record.

    ‘Cause it’s SO hard to find a non-Jew to take charge…in Montgomery, Alabama!

    • Replies: @yowza

    ‘Cause it’s SO hard to find a non-Jew to take charge…in Montgomery, Alabama!
     
    I know, right? That's why jews annoy me sometimes. They want to run everything, but whenever they hear a "Yee-Haw!" in a southern accent, they scatter like elves late for a meeting.
  60. This is very obviously another chapter in what John Derbyshire calls the Cold Civil War: I, Mr. Cohen, goodwhite leader of the SPLC denounce you, Mr. Skeptical-of-BLM-badwhite-flyover-American, as being a Racist for your skepticism of BLM.

    There is the small matter of the Black-White race war that BLM kicked off and President Obama encouraged, but that’s of minor consequence in the mind of Mr. Cohen, goodwhite of the SPLC. After all, it’s mainly White cops who are targeted, and everyone knows deep down that White cops tend to be badwhites anyway. It’s a twofer!

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/tay-was-right/

  61. @Brutusale
    'Cause it's SO hard to find a non-Jew to take charge...in Montgomery, Alabama!

    ‘Cause it’s SO hard to find a non-Jew to take charge…in Montgomery, Alabama!

    I know, right? That’s why jews annoy me sometimes. They want to run everything, but whenever they hear a “Yee-Haw!” in a southern accent, they scatter like elves late for a meeting.

  62. @iffen
    As BLM puts it, the movement stands for “the simple proposition that ‘black lives also matter.’”

    So why isn't it BLMA?

    No, it would be BLAM.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Can't use that. The onomatopoeia aspect in regards to sound of gunfire bars the use of BLAM, not to mention that we are getting close to blame and that is definitely not allowed, except for, well, you know who.
  63. And as always, it’s yt’s fault: Black Lives Matter is not a hate group. But the perception that it is racist illustrates the problem.

    The murders of the cops weren’t even hate crimes, as only white people can commit them. During the DNC Convention there was a PBS news break in which Hari S. referred to “tensions” having killed the 3 officers in Baton Rouge. Hate against YT is impossible, as they inevitably deserve it.

    And the overrated Jon Stewart thinks we don’t exist. Then why have we been forced to prop up the existence of Israel and his privilege in non-existent America?

  64. @NeonBets
    In 2010, the SPLC (which incidentally also runs a website called tolerance.org) included the Family Research Council as a Hate Group. FRC is a Christian Group that, needless to say, is not an advocate of homosexuality. I guess it's kind of a religious thing. The FRC never been accused of harming anyone physically; indeed, it has never even been charged with a crime of any sort. It's been a victim of crime, though: A security guard at FRC was shot and killed by a left wing extremist because the extremist didn't like the FRC's views on LGBTQIA. [After getting arrested, the shooter was interviewed by the FBI, and was asked how he chose his target. His response: "The Southern Poverty Law, lists...uh...anti-gay groups. I found them online"] Nonetheless, the Southern Poverty Law Center lists the Family Research Center as a Hate Group.

    In 2014 the SPLC added Ben Carson (?!) to its extremist watch list citing his association with groups it considers extreme, and his alleged "linking of gays with pedophiles". [He was removed from the list a year later after "further research" into the matter.]

    PS--This article on SPLC is great. https://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/tag/richard-cohen/
    $400,000 a year to be the figurehead of this nonprofit organization?

    An organization such as the SPLC that puts targets on people would’ve been closed down years ago in a sane society.

  65. @bomag
    I clicked on the Hatewatch heading on the SPLC's website, and the mission statement was, "...monitors and exposes the activities of the American radical right."

    There you go. I guess my recollection was correct. I wonder then why the $PLC tried to wiggle out of the BLM question instead of just stating that they are not right-wingers.

  66. @guest
    I think the argument with weirdos like Bruce is that they were really the other sex all along. Not biologically, but spiritually, or something.

    So Bruce Jenner was a homosexual before he got her sex change? Apparently he was a homosexual who acted heterosexual and then became actually homosexual. I wish he hadn’t given that interview where he said he wasn’t homosexual because he’d never been with another man. I got really confused since he was really a she and she thought sleeping with a man would’ve been a homosexual act when really it would have been heterosexual for her.

    But now she’s just an ugly lesbian after all. What a shame.

  67. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    Even the East German judge gave this one a 1.0.

    Gotta work on that dismount, kiddo.

  68. Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group

    Richard Cohen
    President
    July 19, 2016

    Each year, the Southern Poverty Law Center, of which I am the president, compiles and publishes a census of domestic hate groups.

    I got that far and dissolved in laughter.

  69. @Anonymous
    SPLC is so obviously another bigotted anti-white tribal outfit masquerading as civil rights group. Europeans are going through the same humiliation, whites in africa have already been defeated.

    Everyone over the world desires the golden eggs produced by people whose ancestors spent the last thousand years in Northern Europe.

    Not ONE of those other groups can PRODUCE the golden eggs (or else they’d not be emigrating, now, would they?)

    Yet the clowns of SPLC, BLM, etc., etc. constantly issue one insult and demand after another.

    Kick them all out. American people need these assholes like dogs need fleas.

  70. @AndrewR
    How dare you notice patterns? What are you, Hitler?

    How dare you notice patterns? What are you, Hitler?

    I know, right? Sometimes I wonder if bothering to make such observations is gauche and uncouth (you shoulda read my first draft!) but then I remember that shit is happening, people are making it happen, and they are telling us about it.

  71. @Clyde

    It gets a lot simpler when you realise that the SPLC is a hate group.
     
    They are a money machine via the lawsuits they gin up. They do better as the US judiciary gets more liberal Obama judges appointed. State level too as graduating lawyers are more liberal-left every year.

    They are a direct mail scam outfit. Overwhelmingly, their profits come from donations from older blacks and Jews they terrorize with tales of nazis and KKK on the loose. Yes, there is media collusion, but they aren’t as politically powerful as they pretend to be.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    They are a direct mail scam outfit. Overwhelmingly, their profits come from donations from older blacks and Jews they terrorize with tales of nazis and KKK on the loose. Yes, there is media collusion, but they aren’t as politically powerful as they pretend to be.
     
    Maybe not now, but they certainly were in April 1995.
  72. Only white people are capable of “hate”. Looking funny at an Arab or Black by a white is infinitely worse than murdering a few (dozens or hundreds of) whites by an Arab or a Black. Whites should know their place. Of course they won’t receive the same protection as minorities today when whites will be a minority. South African whites don’t receive it, why should American (or any other) whites?

  73. I suggest a new name to clarify things: OBLM – Only Black Lives Matter.

  74. This reminds me of Holocaustomancers constantly modifying definition of genocide to make sure the term ONLY applies to Jews. Only the SPLC and ADL can establish perameters of what constitutes Hate. After all, they invented Hate, though the patent is still pending. Only – and I mean ONLY – Northern European white gentile straight men can be haters and racists, since privilege from the society they stole from slaves (exactly like they stole space travel from Indians) benefits only them and viciously oppresses colored people and other living things.

    And, no, the past half-century does not exist. There were no endless social programs like Head Start, EEOC, affirmative action, Pell Grants, SSI, Aid to Dependent Children, Government Subsidized Housing, Home Mortgage Interest Deduction, Hope and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits, Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit, DREAM Act, 529 accounts and Coverdell education savings account, earned-income tax credit, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, and, of course Food Stamps. No – $17 trillion was never spent on these ‘programs’. That it was spent is racist fantasy.

    Don’t you read Ticonderoga Coates?

    Only ADL and SPLC stand between our sacred darkies and the legions of hate-filled, violent, unattractively tattoo’d, latent Klansmen waiting to form a lynch party. And those beasts are EVERY honky bastard! Venceremos!

  75. @David In TN
    White leftist types such as the SPLC are disingenuous hypocrites.

    “White leftist types such as the SPLC are disingenuous hypocrites.”

    I misread “disingenuous” as “dangerous”.

    I think we’re both right.

  76. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    How many Conservative Orthodox Christian Russians did the SPLC murder in the Eastern Ukraine?

    Answer:How many Conservative Orthodox Christian Russians did the Democratic Party murder in the Eastern Ukraine?

  77. The main objective of the SPLC is suppressing dissident views through public shaming. It legitimizes its actions by claiming the moral high ground and dispensing morality down from it. Those who wish to be moral must adhere to the beliefs of the SPLC and its allies…and must not publicly contradict them by having a different opinion (which is labeled as “hate”).

  78. The SPLC is a good old fashioned ethnic shakedown organization. In effect, they show up at the storefronts of Jewish businesses and say, “Nice little haberdashery you got here. Would be a shame if something happened to it.” And then they mention a dollar number that might buy protection.

    Only the threat is “Nazis” and “hate” and the target is all Jews, though I would guess the donations come mostly from the 60 and older crowd, and probably a few foundations. It’s really a clever little business, if you don’t mind being a cretinous, shameless, fraudulent, immoral shake down artist.

  79. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    Try proofreading your siily posts you moronic troll.

  80. @candid_observer
    So finally the SPLC decided which way they would go on whether BLM was a hate group?

    I'm so glad. The suspense was killing me.

    SPLC is a hate group.
    Hate whitey.

  81. @Dr. Doom and Gloom

    the oft-repeated rejoinder “all lives matter.” ...notion misses the point entirely. Black lives matter because they have been marginalized throughout our country’s history and because white lives have always mattered more in our society.
    *As BLM puts it, the movement stands for “the simple proposition that ‘black lives also matter.’”*
     
    So how exactly does "all lives matter" miss the point if BLM really means "black lives also matter" ? The semantic change(all to black) shifts the focus, but the rejoinder seems to acknowledge the point. SLPC seems to have provided cover for the rejoinder 'Of course "black lives also matter", "all lives matter". '

    This reminds me of Michelle Obama’s “the White House was built by slaves”. Not that it was built IN PART by slaves, which would have been true, but that it was “built by slaves”. You also see claims that America is rich as the result of slave labor, etc.

    This is because black people see everything in black terms (because it literally PAYS to do so). Blackety black black – Genius T. Coates makes a good living off of this.

    • Agree: Kylie
  82. @Corvinus
    "As we’ve seen from recent murder statistics, BLM activism closely correlates with subsequent increases in the number of homicides."

    The subsequent increase in recent homicides is the culmination of factors within the past decade--1) black and white officer misconduct, i.e. blacks being injured or killed when in custody; 2) continued poverty and crime in the black community; and, of course, 3) the Coalition of the Right and the Coalition of the Left playing "pin the blame on the other side".

    Of course it's much easier for rogue blacks to justify shooting cops in light of the incidents highlighted by the media, and it's much easier for pundits to link the current violence to protest groups. After all, that is EXACTLY what the British government did when the colonists legitimately exercised their liberty to protest, with violent reprisals by BOTH sides.

    The explanation for why nearly all these young black males are getting injured or killed by police more at rates higher than whites that relies on facts and doesn’t invoke Occam’s butterknife, is
    1. Young black males commit crime at far higher rates than whites, especially the more serious crimes like armed robbery, murder, etc. which are more likely to get you shot by police.
    2. Young black men are more likely to respond aggressively, particularly with violence, against police when confronted.

    You can invoke all these other explanations about poverty, Left vs Right, alignment of Neptune and Alpha Centauri, etc., but really it boils down to those two points.

    BLM gets it 180 degrees off. The perp who gets hurt or killed committing a crime is the only person who isn’t a victim. They made their choice and got the consequences. The teen girl who gets raped, the 85 yr old man who is beaten to death for his wallet, the police officer who is attacked and responds with force to subdue the perp, who then goes on to have his life ruined by the MSM, BLM, etc- these are the victims.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The BLM cases fall on a spectrum - in the least sympathetic cases, the police attempt to arrest a guy with a mile long rap sheet and instead of surrendering the guy decides he is going to confront the cops instead - either he grabs for the cop's gun or he is carrying a weapon himself and starts to reach for it so the police are in legitimate fear for their lives and are fully justified in firing in self defence. These cases (inexplicably to me) include some of the most high profile cases such as Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. How these guys could have been anyone's poster boys is a complete mystery to me (and indicates to me how sick BLM, American black society and the Democrat party are- if these kids were my sons I would hide in shame, not appear on national TV).

    But, there are other cases that are much more sympathetic (though the police do this kind of stuff just as much to whites, perhaps more so because they are not afraid of being accused of racism). The police "think" that they see a gun but there is no gun. The perp is running away and the police shoot him in the back. The police use excess force when the perp is not really resisting. The cop takes a routine traffic stop and escalates it into something much worse. Etc. We have all seen the videos by now. The police are far from perfect themselves.

    In some of these cases, part of the problem is that the perp has a lifestyle (e.g. selling loose cigarettes on the street) that while not involving violent crimes are not exactly legal either so they end up interfacing with the cops a lot more often than you or I, which increases their odds of an encounter gone wrong. Say there is a 1% chance of the police improperly choking you or shooting you or taking you for a rough ride when they arrest you. If you are a generally law abiding person (of any race) you might get arrested once in a lifetime (usually DUI) or never, so your odds of being hurt by the cops are between 0 and 1%. But if you are a professional criminal, even a low level one, and you have been arrested 30 or 40 times, now the odds begin to catch up with you. (The same is true of airline pilots - as a passenger, your risk of being in a plane crash are very small if you fly only a few times a year but if you are an airline pilot and you are flying every day for decades, after a while the odds catch up with you and it becomes a significant risk).

  83. He’s right though, aside from a few outliers, BLM isn’t a hate group. Don’t misidentify your enemy just because it suits an emotional narrative. BLM, like other activist groups, appeal to compassion to get their way. That kind of thinking needs to be dealt with differently, not through claiming victimhood at their hands.

  84. @Grandpa Jack
    The explanation for why nearly all these young black males are getting injured or killed by police more at rates higher than whites that relies on facts and doesn't invoke Occam's butterknife, is
    1. Young black males commit crime at far higher rates than whites, especially the more serious crimes like armed robbery, murder, etc. which are more likely to get you shot by police.
    2. Young black men are more likely to respond aggressively, particularly with violence, against police when confronted.

    You can invoke all these other explanations about poverty, Left vs Right, alignment of Neptune and Alpha Centauri, etc., but really it boils down to those two points.

    BLM gets it 180 degrees off. The perp who gets hurt or killed committing a crime is the only person who isn't a victim. They made their choice and got the consequences. The teen girl who gets raped, the 85 yr old man who is beaten to death for his wallet, the police officer who is attacked and responds with force to subdue the perp, who then goes on to have his life ruined by the MSM, BLM, etc- these are the victims.

    The BLM cases fall on a spectrum – in the least sympathetic cases, the police attempt to arrest a guy with a mile long rap sheet and instead of surrendering the guy decides he is going to confront the cops instead – either he grabs for the cop’s gun or he is carrying a weapon himself and starts to reach for it so the police are in legitimate fear for their lives and are fully justified in firing in self defence. These cases (inexplicably to me) include some of the most high profile cases such as Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. How these guys could have been anyone’s poster boys is a complete mystery to me (and indicates to me how sick BLM, American black society and the Democrat party are- if these kids were my sons I would hide in shame, not appear on national TV).

    But, there are other cases that are much more sympathetic (though the police do this kind of stuff just as much to whites, perhaps more so because they are not afraid of being accused of racism). The police “think” that they see a gun but there is no gun. The perp is running away and the police shoot him in the back. The police use excess force when the perp is not really resisting. The cop takes a routine traffic stop and escalates it into something much worse. Etc. We have all seen the videos by now. The police are far from perfect themselves.

    In some of these cases, part of the problem is that the perp has a lifestyle (e.g. selling loose cigarettes on the street) that while not involving violent crimes are not exactly legal either so they end up interfacing with the cops a lot more often than you or I, which increases their odds of an encounter gone wrong. Say there is a 1% chance of the police improperly choking you or shooting you or taking you for a rough ride when they arrest you. If you are a generally law abiding person (of any race) you might get arrested once in a lifetime (usually DUI) or never, so your odds of being hurt by the cops are between 0 and 1%. But if you are a professional criminal, even a low level one, and you have been arrested 30 or 40 times, now the odds begin to catch up with you. (The same is true of airline pilots – as a passenger, your risk of being in a plane crash are very small if you fly only a few times a year but if you are an airline pilot and you are flying every day for decades, after a while the odds catch up with you and it becomes a significant risk).

    • Agree: ben tillman
  85. So something is a “hate group” because certain people choose to kill in its name? Wouldn’t that make anti-abortion groups and most major religions into hate groups as well?

  86. So where do we go to register the SPLC as a hate group?

    I’ve met a few of these miserable race-hate-baiters, and all I can say is that this is a corrupt organisation that does a splendid job of enriching its elite cadre.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    The problem isn't the SPLC itself. It's the army of cub reporters that take it seriously, and keep quoting it. And never investigate it.
  87. @YT Wurlitzer
    No, it would be BLAM.

    Can’t use that. The onomatopoeia aspect in regards to sound of gunfire bars the use of BLAM, not to mention that we are getting close to blame and that is definitely not allowed, except for, well, you know who.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    You have to admit, #BLAM is a wonderful retort to #BLM. But it takes a certain sense of humor to appreciate it. #BLAME would work if there was something beginning with "E" that wasn't "Esoteric."
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    My sister was teaching in an urban elementary school and trying to get the little kids to stop swearing.
    She suggested they say "shoot" instead of shit.
    Little second grader shot back, "Ms. Laura, black man can't say shoot!"
  88. @iffen
    Can't use that. The onomatopoeia aspect in regards to sound of gunfire bars the use of BLAM, not to mention that we are getting close to blame and that is definitely not allowed, except for, well, you know who.

    You have to admit, #BLAM is a wonderful retort to #BLM. But it takes a certain sense of humor to appreciate it. #BLAME would work if there was something beginning with “E” that wasn’t “Esoteric.”

  89. Never Mind the Bodies . . . .

    It just occurred to me: This is probably an allusion. It’s especially appropriate when we have another post discussing Houellebecq’s Submission. How heavily did that tune borrow from the Kinks?

  90. @Bill P
    They are a direct mail scam outfit. Overwhelmingly, their profits come from donations from older blacks and Jews they terrorize with tales of nazis and KKK on the loose. Yes, there is media collusion, but they aren't as politically powerful as they pretend to be.

    They are a direct mail scam outfit. Overwhelmingly, their profits come from donations from older blacks and Jews they terrorize with tales of nazis and KKK on the loose. Yes, there is media collusion, but they aren’t as politically powerful as they pretend to be.

    Maybe not now, but they certainly were in April 1995.

  91. @Brutusale
    The entire article boils down to a (((guy))) saying he wants to 'eff up Boston's whitest neighborhood. Because he can't afford his own's ethnic enclaves of Brookline and Newton.

    The entire article boils down to a (((guy))) saying he wants to ‘eff up Boston’s whitest neighborhood. Because he can’t afford his own’s ethnic enclaves of Brookline and Newton

    Boston’s whitest neighborhoods were effed up 150 years ago. So much so, that fifty years later even the police went out on strike.

  92. @The Alarmist
    So where do we go to register the SPLC as a hate group?

    I've met a few of these miserable race-hate-baiters, and all I can say is that this is a corrupt organisation that does a splendid job of enriching its elite cadre.

    The problem isn’t the SPLC itself. It’s the army of cub reporters that take it seriously, and keep quoting it. And never investigate it.

  93. @Tiny Duck
    People of Color will soon be a minority. How does it feel? Knowing that your daughters will love and bear the seed of Black Men?

    Curse in vain as your sons are left in the dust behind better bolder men.

    Tiny Duck has had the “minority=good; majority=bad” doctrine drilled into his tiny head so long, he probably won’t make it over the conversion.

  94. @iffen
    Can't use that. The onomatopoeia aspect in regards to sound of gunfire bars the use of BLAM, not to mention that we are getting close to blame and that is definitely not allowed, except for, well, you know who.

    My sister was teaching in an urban elementary school and trying to get the little kids to stop swearing.
    She suggested they say “shoot” instead of shit.
    Little second grader shot back, “Ms. Laura, black man can’t say shoot!”

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